Larry Wilson joins Art Bell to link Revelation 8:8–10—a mountain hurled into the sea and a "blazing star" (asteroid) contaminating water—to his 1988 prediction of two Pacific Ocean impacts (1994–2000), a 3,000-foot tsunami, and volcanic eruptions along the Ring of Fire, claiming these would kill 1.5 billion people while signaling God’s impending kingdom. Wilson cites NASA scientists acknowledging civilization-ending asteroid risks within 300 years, but Bell questions whether biblical prophecy or science better explains recent disasters—LA’s 5.8 quake, record-breaking hurricanes, and AT&T’s split into three companies, hinting at systemic collapse. Callers debate wormwood, social decay (e.g., mortuary break-ins, child violence), and depopulation theories, while Bell, despite his agnosticism, warns that humanity’s moral decline may be irreversible, leaving future generations in doubt. [Automatically generated summary]
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Or good evening, as the case may be, moving west, actually coverage from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands to the U.S. Virgin Islands in the Caribbean, St. Thomas, specifically covering all the islands.
And if you all are with us this morning, I would appreciate I will for a time I've got a feeling that probably not with us, but I want to try it.
The U.S. Virgin Islands, specifically St. Thomas, I've been absolutely decimated by my birthday now.
I'm going to open my first time caller line right now.
Anybody in the U.S. Virgin Islands?
So if you guys are back up and it is yet, we'd like to get a call from you.
We know some telephone communications was to be restored today.
And I would like to get a report.
I've got a lot of listeners out there, relatives in the Virgin Islands, and they'd like word and I would like word.
So if you're in the U.S. Virgin Islands, call us at Area Code 702-727-1222.
If anybody out there hears us and is able to get out on the phones, which I kind of doubt, once again, it's Area Code 702-727-1222.
We'd sure like to know how you all are doing.
So that, when our affiliate is on the air, is our eastern limit down into South America and north, we believe, fully to the North Pole.
Now, we are going to have a guest this evening.
He's going to be a very interesting guest.
His name is Larry Wilson.
And I guess I would like to begin by warning people that if the kind of material we're going to...
If this kind of material disturbed you, this would probably be the right time for you to tune out.
I won't mind.
I don't want to disturb you.
I don't want to scare you.
And so I'm issuing this little warning right up front.
Now, let me do this.
Let me tell you, and I don't know why it is, when I do these kinds of programs, I get this kind of news.
I hope I don't bring it on.
There were two significant earthquakes today.
One of them, quite significant, I think 5.8, located about 100 miles north of Los Angeles.
Another in Central California, about 10 miles north of Ridgecrest.
And so there is a very serious amount of sudden earthquake activity going on.
And it will relate to some degree to what we're going to talk about.
Now, we are about to have the worst hurricane season in all of history.
If we have one more storm, it will tie and then surpass all of recorded history with regard to hurricanes.
Now, you've heard Gordon Michael Scallion and the direction that he comes from, I think, and you will hear him again on the program.
But this morning, a different angle.
And a lot of people who are biblically oriented, religiously oriented, tend to come after the Gordon Michael scallions and say, false prophet, false prophet.
This morning's guest bases a lot of what he's going to say on the Bible itself.
And I'll tell you more about Larry Wilson in just one moment.
It's going to be a very interesting program, but if this kind of thing freaks you out, then you should go away to Happy Talk somewhere.
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Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
And this comes from, I guess, his newsletter, or a newsletter.
We'll find out.
But his story.
Since February of 94, I followed the phenomenon of near-Earth objects, NEOs, crashing into our planet.
The reaction of the SP Directorate, I'm not sure what that is, where I'm currently employed, and others has crossed the spectrum from sheer disbelief to almost absolute hysteria.
I have tracked the mission of the Clementine satellite, which was tasked to map and photograph the moon's surface and then conduct a flyby of catalogued asteroid Geographos, is it?
Geographos, I guess.
1620, that satellite, or that rock, I guess it's a rock, which is two kilometers in diameter, is classified An Apollo-class asteroid that orbits the sun in the same manner as Earth.
Needless to say, after successfully mapping the moon on Saturday, 7 March 94, Clementine spun out of orbit, never did rendezvous with Geographos.
Later, in April of 94, an asteroid estimated at 22 yards in diameter crossed between the halfway point of the moon and the Earth, which caused many space watchers from around the world to take a second look at this possible threat from the skies.
In other words, we had a near miss.
I later learned this chunk of rock was made of iron.
It was estimated that if this body would have crashed into the Earth, the energy released from the explosion would have equaled three times the bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan.
Now, I'm going to let him tell the rest of the story, quite a bit of Earth movement, and an interesting time to bring on board Larry Wilson.
And by the way, I've got a big announcement coming up at midnight.
So, Larry, welcome to the program.
Here you are.
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Well, thank you, Art, and good morning to all of your listeners.
What is it that you think is going to happen, Larry, and when is it going to happen, and what will it do?
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Well, Lart, in a nutshell, I've come to the conclusion that there is an end to the world as we know it.
And the events that lead up to the end and the establishment of God's kingdom, there are a series or a sequence of events described in the book of Revelation as I have come to understand it.
Let me go back a little ways and tell you that in 1988, I concluded that the Earth was going to be impacted by two, a binary pair, asteroid impacts.
And what chills me is when I have people on like him or you now saying, it seems to me, virtually the same thing, but coming at it from a different perspective.
Now, when you have Gordon Michaels scallion on, the people who are religious will call in extremely angry, even though he's got an 87% accuracy rating or whatever, and I've been tracking them, as a matter of fact.
They call in angry, and they say, look, even if he was as good as 99%, you know, the Bible says he is a false prophet.
And all who make predictions are false prophets.
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Well, Art, I've been called a false prophet for a long time.
In 1988, when I began espousing my views that the Bible predicts two asteroid impacts, one specifically in an ocean and another on a landmass, a continent, people ridiculed me and told me that I was nuts and that the only rocks out there were in my head.
And it affects a third of the rivers and the springs of water.
And the Bible goes on to say that as a result of the second impact, that the water becomes poisonous or contaminated, and many people drink the water and die.
Well, how does a man know about the trumpets that have begun to blow?
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Well, Bible prophecy operates as a continuum.
You have a beginning point and you have an ending point, and there is a methodical way to lay out each of the elements to see where you are in this continuum.
And this prophetic continuum has been already in process for 25 centuries.
So it's not like you just jump into the middle of reality one day and say, hey, here we are.
In reality, the way it works is that you begin to examine what has happened, how it was laid out, the architecture of prophecy, so that you can find your place in the great clock.
Well, what does your great clock say with regard to these comments?
I mean, this is a very non-trivial matter.
When?
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Sure.
Well, my understanding is that we're in a window of time from 1994 until around the turn of the century, 1998, perhaps the year 2000, the turn of the millennium, you know.
What sort of comet do you expect to hit the ocean, which I believe you said would be the first?
And what effects generally would you expect that to produce?
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When in 1989, the National Geographic presented a series or an article titled Extinction about the dinosaurs being eliminated from Earth by asteroids.
I was surprised to find that studies and modeling studies done at the University of California at Berkeley conformed exactly to what John has described in Revelation.
If a great asteroid, say a mile or two in diameter, were to impact the Pacific Ocean, traveling at 40,000 miles an hour.
We'll take a break here at the bottom of the hour.
That's a great hook.
He mentioned the dinosaurs, and I'll just briefly tell you that there is now a dinosaur, as of NBC News last night, to replace T-Rex.
And guess what his name is?
Gigantosaurus.
Gigantosaurus.
They have found the remains of what's called Gigantosaurus in Argentina.
It is a 100-million-year-old animal.
It was 40 feet long, weighed a total of 8 tons, according to Tom Brokaw, had 8-inch teeth, was, thank goodness, the biggest flesh-eating dinosaur ever to walk on two legs.
And I believe that Gigantosaurus, T-Rex, and all of their smaller brethren are thought to have disappeared as a result of exactly what we're talking about and will be talking about this morning.
Comets slamming into the earth.
In a moment, we'll find out what would happen from Larry Wilson if a comet, if and when a comet, hits our ocean.
We'll be right back.
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This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
Larry, I know you've done a lot of scientific research so that you know what you're saying is true.
So go ahead and tell us, set up the scenario that you believe is so close.
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Okay.
Let me do this to tell your listeners that if they'll get a pencil handy, I'll be glad to give a copy of the little book that describes all of this as a complimentary gift.
If they'll just call the office, we have people standing by even right now, and we'll be glad to give a free copy of the little book, warning revelation is about to be fulfilled, absolutely free, without any obligation whatsoever.
Then secondly, this is followed by a great asteroid impact upon the sea.
And if an asteroid, a mile or even half a mile in diameter, were to impact, let's say, the Pacific Ocean, it would create a tsunami that could be upwards of 3,000 feet high.
And it would go over Florida like a big old tidal wave.
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That's correct.
Well, if it hits the Gulf of Mexico, The tidal wave, according to some research, would reach as far inland as Kansas City because of our relatively flat plain.
Interestingly, the Bible says that a third of the ships of the sea were destroyed as a result of this impact.
Then the third event is an asteroid impact that strikes a landmass and shears the tectonic structure,
causing with the ground waves, it shears the septic system, the buried waste, and other leaching fields are broken up so that the great aquifers beneath the cities of that continent are contaminated and people drink the water and many perish as a result.
This is not, you know, I really don't like to believe what I understand, if you know what I'm saying.
And you believe this is in the near term, don't you?
In other words, prior to 2000.
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Yes, that's correct.
And my objective, and I am deeply appreciative to you for two reasons.
One, for the opportunity of being on your show to share what I've come to understand.
But secondly, I appreciate very much that you have been diligent, I believe, in trying to get people to look at A larger picture and to consider the findings of science and others who are trying to say something about the events that are before us.
Well, I'm diligent pursuing information in this area, and I am disquieted by the similar nature of the Gordon Michael Scallions, the Larry Wilsons, and so many others who come from so many different directions.
Yours is the Bible.
But seem to conclude roughly the same thing.
To me, that is very disquieting.
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Yeah.
In 1989, a fellow by the name of Henry Holt, out at the U.S. Geological Survey in Flagstaff, he discovered what was later named asteroid 1989 FC.
Well, there was some debate on its actual size, but some concluded that it could have been, you know, 300 meters across, 1,000 feet in diameter.
Well, these things come at us so fast, and there are so many of them, that it's impossible to track them all and to see them all, because in space,
a one-mile, asteroid one mile in diameter is so tiny compared to the distances and the span involved that it's just an incredibly, it's truly the needle in the haystack.
Well, I guess it is, because my recollection is, and maybe you can answer why, but I've been in talk radio for years, and it was a couple of years ago, I guess.
We had a couple of near misses.
The Associated Press reported on them, and the interesting thing was there were very near misses, and they said they reported it after the fact.
In other words, we just had a very near miss.
In both cases, it was reported the next day or the next week.
Yes.
And it was obvious if they knew it was coming and was going to be close.
Well, it was obvious they didn't.
Or maybe not so obvious.
Or maybe they weren't sure they saw it and weren't sure and did not say anything for fear of panicking people.
I don't know, one of the above.
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Yes.
You know, one only has to look at the moon.
And remembering that one face of the moon always is toward the earth.
The moon rotates on its axis in such a way that we always see the same side of the moon.
And the side that we can see is obviously pockmarked with thousands of meteor craters.
Now, that to me has always been disquieting for the reason that we're looking at the side that's always toward us.
So that would indicate that in many of these impacts, they've had to have missed Earth and hit the moon.
In other words, might it not be true that the Earth experienced just as many as the Moon in ancient times, but because we have air and atmosphere, we have hills and valleys and grand canyons and who knows, impact areas that simply are not recognized any longer as impact areas.
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Well, David Morrison calculates, David Morrison is the director out at the Ames Research Center for NASA.
He and other scientists calculate that somewhere on the order of 100 tons of space debris enters our atmosphere daily.
Well, yes, I have I'm out here in the middle of the desert and we see them like that here.
There are many, as you point out.
Even at times of non-meteor showers, there are many.
But they're small and as long as they burn up, they're harmless.
The ones we're talking about, or the ones you're talking about, are big and very harmful.
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Yes.
In fact, they're called civilization-threatening.
And I come at this on the basis that the Bible predicts these events are going to take place because God has something he really wants to tell all six billion of us on this planet.
And this is God's way of getting the attention of every human being everywhere.
And is the weather change, in your view, and the Earth movement we're experiencing now some sort of message as well?
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Absolutely.
Absolutely.
The Earth is waxing old, if you will.
It bears a very incredible burden, even the volcanic activity.
I was surprised recently to learn that there is a volcano right out of Mexico City and also Mount Vesuvius, I believe, in Italy, and a number of others that have seismologists extremely worried because of the building pressures seem to indicate that a major,
like Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines, a major eruption is forthcoming.
The most recent interview I did with Gordon Michael Scallion was a very hurried interview, and he was almost beside himself with worry, and he was saying, watch Vesuvius very closely.
If Vesuvius and Etna begin to get active, then the final phase of his predictions will begin.
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Well, we haven't mentioned it yet, but the fourth trumpet of Revelation, I believe, is not only one, but the whole ring of fire of the Pacific Rim, I believe, will ignite.
You know, hearing this from you, hearing it from him, the whole Pacific Rim or the Ring of Fire is going to ignite.
Are we feeling the precursors to that now?
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I believe so.
And the movement of the tectonic plates, as you were just mentioning with the earthquakes, you know, whether it's in New Zealand, whether it's off the coast of Australia, or in Mexico, or in Iran, or China, the movement of these plates, these great land masses, or even the sub-ocean land mass, is ominous.
Earlier you said this might not happen as kind of a qualifier.
I mean, if the trumpets are blowing, the trumpets are blowing, Larry, as I understand biblical prophecy or revelations.
Once the tune begins to play, it's playing, isn't it?
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Yes, yes.
The reason I couched my words is that there is a possibility that I can be wrong.
Of course, that always is true with anything I do.
My interpretation of Revelation follows a series of interpretive principles, or hermeneutics, as they're called, in which I try to show that this is not my attempt to take a mountain of wax and to mold it and to create an image that I want it to be.
I try to approach the interpretation of Revelation from a scientific point of view using, as you would in math or any science, a set of guiding principles or rules of interpretation so that it's not just Larry Wilson.
How do you connect, what science would you quote to connect your belief with regard to the blowing trumpets?
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Well, in 1988, when I came to these conclusions, the following year in 1989, I believe it was, I felt a certain amount of vindication, I guess is the only word, when Clark Chapman and David Morrison concluded and made quite a public announcement that asteroids not only had impacted the Earth in the past,
but that we are due in the near future, and in science, you know, in scientific terms, near future can be anywhere from 100 to 300 years.
And when they publicly stated that it is conceivable that Earth is due on the celestial clock, a major impact within a 300-year timeline, I figured that, wow, this is wonderful, not in the sense of what we're portending, but that science and the Bible do find some harmony.
300 years is a lot longer from my point of view as a mere mortal than sometime before the year 2000.
Yes.
All right, Larry.
What I'm going to do is let some of the audience at you if you want to stay around.
All right, stay around then, Larry.
Larry Wilson.
Going in the same direction as Gordon Michaels Gallion, starting in a different place, but the destination sounds an Awful lot like what Mr. Scallion is predicting.
We'll be right back.
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Trip back in time continues, with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More Somewhere in Time coming up.
Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 20th of September, 1995.
Well, he called, he noticed the phone number about three days later, and he remembered the phone number to him was important, like the address, you know.
Sometimes I'll wander into the middle of the, you know, into the studio in the middle of the day and the lights light up and I'll pick one up and somebody will say, who is this?
All right, look, we've had a big audience just join us in Los Angeles and San Francisco.
So basically, you believe from a scientific point of view as well as a biblical point of view, that revelation has begun, that the trumpets have sounded.
Well, what I told the earlier audience, and what I'll repeat now just before we go to the telephones, because I want to let some people at you, is that I've had scallion, I've had various prophets, people coming at this from all different directions, and people have suggested I get somebody like yourself.
So I have.
And you're all saying about the same thing, coming from different directions, but saying about the same thing, which is what I find rather unnerving.
Let's see what the audience has to say, Larry.
East of the Rockies, someplace or another, you're on the air with Larry Wilson.
Hello.
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Hi, Larry.
Yeah.
Hi, this is John.
I live in Wisconsin, actually.
And I don't think you're a quack or anything, but I just have a question for you.
Okay.
Are you actually worried about this?
Because you talked about the book of Luke earlier.
And in Luke it says you shouldn't worry about it, actually, because there's nothing you can do about it.
If it actually is biblical, okay?
Yes.
You agree with that?
Yes.
Okay, and then it talks about you must be ready for the Son of God.
Over in verse 40, you said you must be ready because the Son of Man will come in an hour when you least expect it.
Yes.
But you're saying you pretty much expect it real soon.
Yes.
So that's my one question.
It's like, if God says you sh not going to know when it's going to happen, you're pretty much saying we should all be ready because you know when it's going to happen.
I just wanted to chime in on this whole deal about this seems to me between the predictions of Scallion and Larry and everybody, I mean, how many times is the horse going to be killed?
You know, we have all this pollution, we have nuclear waste, nuclear this, ozone.
You know, it's like beating a dead horse.
If God is giving us a message, I mean, don't you think it's a little, it's not subtle?
It's ridiculous.
It's coming from every angle.
How many times, you know, you've got asteroids coming in, you've got floods, you've got earthquakes.
Well, I would say our government is somewhat beastly.
Do you follow all that, the UN, the one world order, all that, Larry?
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As a result, you see, this is an interesting point here, Art, that Revelation not only predicts these coming catastrophic physical events, it goes to the next level and explains the response of man to these events.
And were it not in the Bible, it would be a fairy tale of enormous proportion because it sounds unreal.
But we've been traveling through this cosmic junkyard until now, since the dinosaurs, without a species-ending event.
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Well, that's correct.
Now, the discovery, in fact, do you know that the
Well, the basis for the scientific conclusion is that ever in the order of the universe, there are events of certain magnitude on a time scale that is repetitive.
For example, every 100 million years, some cataclysmic event occurs, that is civilization destroying.
That's interesting, because Gigantosaurus, the one they were talking about yesterday, was exactly, they suggest, 100 million years ago, walking around on the planet.
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Right.
Well, science takes as its basis the chart of events against the time axis.
So that and in calculating risk over a function of time, this is how you predict how many plane crashes there are going to be in a period of three years.
This is how you predict how many automobile accidents there's going to be on Thanksgiving Day.
So science follows this looking for a pattern.
And Clark Chapman and David Morrison and many, many other scientists have concluded that on the basis of what has been seen, that we are at the end or near the end of a pattern due for a major impact.
And so they are devising and exploring, and you know, there are conferences around the world examining how can man protect himself.
Well, now I'm going to drag you right back to the biblical part.
You make me do that, because you say the scientists are exploring ways to prevent what the Bible would suggest is inevitable.
And if it is inevitable, and if something is going to crash into our ocean and then a large landmass, destroying virtually most of the life on the planet.
By the way, do you predict it to destroy all or most of, or what do you predict?
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If I understand the scriptures correctly, I understand that about a fourth of the Earth's population will be removed.
So the part that I'm not grasping is, if it is biblically, prophetically inevitable, then what's the point of the scientists trying to figure out how to stop it, divert it, blow it up, do whatever they could do to, you know, understand that the scientist does not behold the biblical perspective.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Larry Wilson.
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Yes, Larry?
Yes, sir.
Yes, Woody from Kansas City, Missouri.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, what I was wondering about was when you're describing this star that was supposed to hit a continent, had you given any thought to the possibility of what it says in verse 11 of chapter 8 about it being called, the star being called wormwood.
The word wormwood is taken from a reference in Jeremiah chapter 9 where in ancient times, because of Israel's great apostasy, God gave Israel poisonous waters to drink called wormwood.
And as a result of this impact of the blazing star, the water becomes poisonous or bitter, and many people die from drinking.
And the name is wormwood in the same respect as it was in Jeremiah 9, I think verse 15, if you remember.
So the asteroid itself is not called wormwood as we would label it.
Rather, its significance has the same as the poisonous waters in Jeremiah 9.
In that order, and the close-in prediction that you're making about a big piece of rock slamming into Earth, the ocean, then the landmass, and a quarter of the Earth's people dying.
That's the bad news.
That's pretty bad news, Larry.
I mean, in terms of a scale of 1 to 10, that's very bad news.
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It is.
And it's very sobering.
I don't mean to trifle with it, but by the same token, if that's all there was to the story, you would have a sense of helplessness and hopelessness.
But that's not all there is to the story.
It is the dramatic part of the story.
But here's something that I think that might help your listeners, and perhaps even as you are so instrumental in talking to so many people of varieties of backgrounds and differences and directions, but sort of heading in the same direction.
This story, at least from the biblical perspective, is that God is not going to rescue the religious.
He's going to rescue those who will live by faith and put their confidence in him.
Now the rescue may be from death, or it may be after you have experienced death in these cataclysmic events that are coming.
But the Bible doesn't teach, as I see it, that God saves religious people.
Rather, he saves people who will put faith in him as their creator and redeemer.
Now, that's quite a that's an entirely different feel than God saving the religious zealots, if you know what I'm saying.
In Revelation 8, verse 5, there's a scene in which John writes that you saw an angel in heaven ministering at the altar of incense.
And this angel casts down his censer.
Now, bear in mind, this is before the trumpets began.
That when this angel casts down his censer, there are four phenomenon that will be observed around the world, all at the same time, by all the people of the world.
A number of seismologists, after the well, to their credit, to their credit, they have reconsidered that the tectonic plates are not sitting on a solid mass, but rather a molten, crumbly type of mass in the heart of the earth.
You know, again, you're beginning to sound like Scallion.
Scallion's view is that there is a molten core and that it is in the process now of shifting.
Yes.
And is that similar to what?
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Well, this is what the seismologists have concluded as a result, and they have evidence of it now, the first earthquake in recorded history that has moved the entire hemisphere happened last year.
It happened down in Colombia, South America.
It was about 450 miles deep, and it was felt all the way into Canada.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Larry Wilson.
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Good morning, Hart and Larry.
Good morning.
Hey, I was just wondering how this would fit in with Larry's philosophy here.
I have a thing here that talks about the seven tribulations that would occur during the final seven weeks of time.
And it begins with the Battle of Jerusalem and ends with the Battle of Armageddon.
And in between, in some order, not necessarily, that's when there would be the tribulations of blistering heat, destruction of ships, the water made bitter, the sun and moon smitten.
Now, in this particular thing, it says that this would occur during the seven or the final seven weeks of time.
And from what I understand, generally, according to Scripture, a week would be seven years.
And so, You know, I was just kind of thinking that the Battle of Jerusalem had to do with, you know, somewhere along the lines of the birth of a nation of Israel.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Larry Wilson.
Hi.
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Hi.
I'm a Christian.
I've been a Christian about eight years, and I've studied prophecy.
That's kind of a main focus, obviously, because of the quickening, as you say, Art.
I think that anybody who sets dates is doing a lot of harm to the Christian movement.
And, you know, I agree, and I feel that we are in the last times, but I don't think he can be so matter of fact about it and say that, say, from the time Clinton became president, we're going to have two comets hit the ground.
There's nowhere in the Bible that says within a certain date of time that those two comets are going to hit the earth.
And if I can hang on the line and hear what he has to say, I'd like to comment back if I could.
You know the way I feel about this quickening thing, which I don't necessarily relate to the Bible or anything else.
But then I listen to Scallion, you study Edgar Casey, or you listen to Larry Wilson.
They all seem to be saying about the same thing.
And that unnerves the hell out of me.
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I agree.
I think what's eerie about it is that with Scallion and all these other people, there is no consequence to the decision and the faith you put in it.
If everybody's right, the only person that has a consequence to it is this man's belief and Christian's belief, because in that sense, there is a heaven and a hell.
if scallions right and we die and we turned it from do who cares but the bible were a whole way Scallion never said we die and turn into goo.
Well, no.
You know, I know he didn't say that.
But what I'm saying is that the Christians believe that there is a heaven and a hell and an eternity.
Other beliefs say, well, if you're a good person, this and that.
Christianity believes that if you've given your life to Christ and trusted in him for your salvation you'll survive I see this is where Larry, this is where I run into all kinds of trouble personally with religion.
I don't think, in other words, there are good people and there are bad people.
We talk about them on the air here all the time.
And it is not my belief that if somebody didn't sprinkle water on your head, or you've not been born again, or whatever it is that people say you've got to do to be one of the lucky few that'll get sucked up just before whatever happens happens.
I think there are good people who will, if there is going to be the great suck up, will be on their way, even though they didn't go to church every Sunday.
And so I wanted, I really did want to bring you on the air this morning to put this perspective on, just to kind of balance some of the other things I'm doing.
And I'm finding that it doesn't, it's not balancing it, it's reinforcing it again.
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You know something, Art, I think you were more profound in what you said than perhaps you might realize.
And that is, God, who does the saving of humanity, ultimately in the end, is far more generous in what he considers good and bad than religious people are.
Okay, first of all, the Bible is very clear on a couple things, that no man knows the time or the hour when Jesus Christ is going to return.
The Jehovah's Witnesses have been doing this for the last century, and every time they've predicted, they've tripped themselves up and have to reset the date.
Second of all, concerning all of these things, when I listen to your show, I hear all of this end times predictions, but not very many people say what is to be our response when we hear all of this.
And I think what God is trying to get us as a people to do is to get down to our knees, get down to business with Him, and prepare our own hearts and our houses for what's coming in the future.
And the Bible also, you said you were having trouble with, excuse me, I'm nervous.
I can't believe I got through it.
The Bible is very clear that all have sinned and fallen short of the grace of God.
Can you tell I found some new bumper music I like?
Anybody remember what this is?
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
Come on, now, you know what that is.
Anyway, I thought it'd make a great piece of bumper music, and it does.
All right, I've got a lot to talk to you about.
God, what a strange night.
Larry Wilson was very disconcerting for me, and I'm still trying to put my finger on it.
It has something to do with religion.
I know it does.
And let me try.
And then I've got some more information for you here.
I struggle with religion, as many of you know, and I don't allow a lot of it on the radio, but I also don't disallow it.
And I really thought that with all of the people that I've had on who are off on the edge, you know, and I know that a lot of you think that Scallion and Hoagland and, you know, the list really goes on for a mile, are out on the edge, and that I never came at it from a biblical point of view.
And I thought Larry would be an opportunity to do that.
He was.
And what's bothering me about the whole thing, I mean, there's just a whole, there's a whole litany of things that bother me.
one of them is that religion seems to say this is inevitable uh...
hi hi I don't know if I believe that.
I think that science is a very powerful thing, and I believe that if something was coming at us, assuming that we got to know about it beforehand, and I think comets are a lot like bullets.
I'm told that when you're hit with one, thankfully I never have been, you get hit with a bullet, and then you hear the sound.
You follow me.
You never see it coming.
You never hear it coming.
You just have a hole in you, and then you hear the crack of the rifle.
And that's very much, I suppose, the way a comet could hit.
So Larry could be right.
I don't know.
The whole thing just disconcerted me in a very strange way.
but i'm glad i did it is that Does that resonate with you at all?
I have here something that apparently is a great honor.
And so let me read this, and we'll get into other things here.
But this just came over my fax machine.
It says, Dear Art, you have been awarded the best radio talk show in the Phoenix New Times newspaper.
The best of Phoenix issue is very respected.
This means more to Valley residents than our, well, I don't want to say that.
Anyway, Art, what I'm trying to say is this is a great honor.
Congratulations, my friend.
You're the best in Phoenix, Arizona, and the world, your friend, Rick.
Last year, the award went to Bob Mohan, KFYI, and he sent the article.
And here it is: it says: Best radio talk show, Dreamland with Art Bell, Sundays, 7 to 10, KFYI, Crystalline Structures on the Moon, film footage of the dissection of a Martian, well, no, not exactly, Bigfoot actually an alien.
In these days of talk radio, taking the blame for various anti-government acts of terrorism, Dreamland concerns itself with more celestial topics.
Each Sunday evening offers listeners the opportunity to comment on the theories of experts, topics of alien abduction, the Roswell incident, predictions for AD 4000, as well as interviews with legendary abductees, including Arizona's very own Travis Walden.
At the eye of this ideological hurricane is the calm, unskeptical master of ceremonies, host Art Bell, broadcasting from what he refers to as the Kingdom of Nye, Nye County, Nevada being the renegade county it is, whose commissioners transferred ownership of federal land to the county.
Bell prides himself as being the broadcaster closest to Area 51, it's true, the renowned alien crash site at Nellis Air Force Base, not necessarily true.
Has he had a sighting, of course.
Listening to Bell's measured, even tones, you know that to him, any theory is as plausible as the next.
Add to the mix advertisements for shortwave radios and companies that will help turn your cash savings to gold, and you have a radio show reaching out to the anti-government Second Amendment survivalist militia crowd as well.
But Dreamland is not to be typecast.
As Bell intones at the end of each show, Dreamland is a program dedicated to areas of human experience not easily put into a box.
Things seen at the edge of vision, yet as real as the air we breathe but can't see.
That's the article.
And so they have awarded me the best radio talk show host, best radio show, I guess.
Thank you.
That is quite an honor, and the best of Phoenix, 1995, it says.
Thank you.
Whether it is Dreamland or this program that sometimes models itself after that, in some senses, it is the very diversity that I seek that I think accounts for the success, or I hope does.
So that's a great honor, and thank you, Phoenix.
Thank you.
This fact's in.
Entertainment Tonight claims they are going to show additional footage of the Santilli film tomorrow, 9.22.
The brief snippet of film they showed was of the panels with the six-finger impressions.
I'll be damned.
I wonder if Fox is trying to sell off the footage they have that doesn't fit into their Roswell theory.
Or is this an attempt to release credible information through less than credible sources or vice versa?
In any event, I thought people ought to know so they can roll a tape.
She signs it Susie Luce in Santa Barbara.
Normally, I'm sure that's not a real last name.
Susie Luce.
Is that like Susie Wong?
So there you go.
Entertainment tonight with additional footage showing the panels.
I can't tell you how disconcerted I was by Larry, and I don't know why.
Then this.
Just in, seismologists say, you're going to love this, that an earthquake that shook a wide area of Southern California Wednesday was stronger than previously thought.
They say the quake's magnitude was at least 5.8, upgraded from 5.5.
The quake struck at 4.27 p.m. Pacific Time Wednesday.
There are reports of minor damage, no injuries.
It's the second powerful quake in a month centered about 10 miles north of Ridgecrest.
A Caltech seismologist says a magnitude 5.4 quake centered in the same area on August 17th was actually a foreshock to Wednesday's quake.
The quake was felt throughout Los Angeles and its suburbs in San Bernardino, Orange, and as far east as Las Vegas.
Do you get the feeling that I do, and I just don't like it one little bit, that the other shoe, as I keep saying, is about to fall.
And I cannot tell you how disconcerted I am this morning about all of this.
It'll pass, I hope.
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71% of the people say they hardly know a thing about Powell.
And yet, by 48 to 33%, they're willing to replace Clinton with Powell.
Now, what does that say about Clinton?
What does that say about Powell?
And what does that say about the electorate?
I'm not sure any of it's good.
Frankly, I'm not sure any of it's good.
So, there you are.
Powell made a statement the other day about, says politicians are demonizing immigrants.
He is the son, as you know, of a Jamaican immigrant.
Said Monday that he supports banning welfare and other government benefits for those who enter the country illegally, except when it comes to children.
The UN, I mean, I've just got to get the, it's too important not to get this stuff in.
The UN has announced it is suspending the bombing of the Serbs indefinitely because they have, according to the UN, complied.
They have moved 250 heavy weapons outside the exclusionary zone, lifting the siege of Sarajevo.
The map of what used to be Yugoslavia has changed again.
The Serbs have got about half the land.
The Croat Muslims, Croats and Muslims have about half.
There are now 90,000 Serb refugees on the move.
There is no peace agreement.
So what have we done?
Can anybody out there tell me what we have done?
We have assisted the Bosnian Muslims and the Croats to take back about 30% of the land they lost, making it roughly half and half.
We've done that.
They have not stopped the war.
They still want to kill each other.
We're going to try to force them into a peace agreement.
And if we are unfortunate enough, in my opinion, to achieve that, we will then send 18 to 25,000 Americans to enforce the peace and remain there, I think, for a very long time.
And as soon as they leave, of course, the war will begin again because we have not changed the hearts.
All we've done is bomb them into submission.
I did predict that we'd be able to do that.
We have done that.
So I guess I would just say what next?
We'll be right back.
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Maybe I can help you understand why you are uneasy.
I am too.
I think it's because that you believe that prophecy and science and just good old common sense observation seems to be conveying some very frightening predictions and events.
Then you have to begin the process of sorting out what religion has to do with such prophecy.
In other words, if the Christian prophets are right, what about all the other stuff they teach?
That's from Mike.
And here, let me set you a little more on edge.
Listen to this from Gary.
I just returned from Mammoth Mountain in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, where I was doing some fly fishing.
Now, near the base of the mountain, there are many spots where the Forest Service has closed campgrounds and hiking trails due to large amounts of carbon dioxide gas leaking out of the ground.
The quantity of gas is so large that trees are dying and hikers can become asphyxiated.
Is this ancient volcano ready to blow?
The Rangers were very tight-lipped when I questioned them.
Can any listeners out there help?
Great show, Gary.
Thanks, Gary.
Just what I needed to read.
There's a big debate going on about prayer in school, and the chief of police in Los Angeles is suing.
This is a very interesting story.
The chief of police in Los Angeles, Willie Williams, is suing the city of Los Angeles, suing his employers, for $10 million.
He claims the city defamed his character by leaking a story about receiving a free room in Las Vegas.
In other words, I guess he believes that somebody in the city council or somebody in city government leaked this and then leaked the story and then it was printed in L.A. and it defamed his character.
When it turns out, I am told, that his wife's level of gambling entitled him to the free room.
There are, you know, the high rollers in Las Vegas get free rooms.
They do that all the time.
They comps called comp.
And so the city council apparently, the way I understand it, retracted it somehow or another.
But now he will sue the city.
And the question is, can you sue the city you're working for and serve that city at the same time?
I wonder if that's what he intends to do.
So to the telephones, and let's see what we've got out there.
Yeah, matter of fact, it held up Clinton and Gore planes, Air Force 1 and Air Force 2 because they landed out at the National Guard and none of the icing machines worked, or de-icing machines, rather.
Dear Art, just to warn you, there's more than a thousand last-minute book orders with a request for your autograph on the way.
Since you gave in, or out, to the pleadings at about 12.15 a.m. Pacific on your Wednesday night, Thursday morning show, many of us finally got off the dime and went for it.
There is something about competing with 8 million people that makes a person think no matter how fast one moves, one is always going to be too late.
How does that strike one?
Anyway, thanks for the relenting in your adamant stance about signing more than 1,000.
1,000 is a pretty small percentage of your audience, and there are so many more that want your second book.
Anyway, that was from Bill and Bremerton.
What I'm saying is, yeah, I am relenting in a way because I got a call from the publisher today, and they said, well, we're already over 1,000.
And so that put me in a real pickle because that would mean that I would have had to have come on the air tonight and say it's all over already.
And I wanted to at least give everybody like a one-day warning.
I thought that was only fair.
I mean, it just, it kind of, and I, so I sat and I pondered the whole thing earlier tonight.
And here's what I'm doing.
If your letter is postmarked no later than today, now this really is ironclad.
This really is ironclad.
If it's postmarked no later than today, the 21st, let's be very clear about this.
Whatever number come in, I'll sign them.
And then that's it.
That's absolutely it.
So in other words, I guarantee you that if you get a postmark today, no later than today, you'll get a signed, autographed copy of my book.
Okay?
That's the deal.
That way you know you cannot lose out.
And I just, I couldn't face coming on here tonight and telling you it was all over because people who mailed them yesterday would be saying, man, I got, that wouldn't be a proper word to use.
I got cheated.
And so I don't want that to happen.
So I'm giving you honest, fair warning here.
This is it.
It's got to be postmarked today.
And if it is, then you're guaranteed you'll get an autographed version.
I don't know how many that means I'm going to have to sign.
Too many, I'm sure.
But I'll do it.
I mean, if Colin Powell can do it, I can do it.
So west of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Oh, good.
Rick Meister Gerhardt here in Oakland, California.
And I reserve, no matter what people may conclude about me on the air, sir, I reserve judgment, and I'm very agnostic when it comes to not just religion itself, but to prophecy, even that of Gordon Michael Scallion, who I very much respect.
But it seems to me like they're all sort of saying about the same thing.
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Yeah, if there really was a God, I seem to think that it, well, there is.
And anybody else who wants to try this is welcome to, too.
If you were God and you looked down on what was going on all around us today, what would you do?
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I would say there's too many people.
I would say that what's going on is kind of like what these scientists in years gone by have seen when there was too many rats in the Cage.
You know, it's just all this goofy stuff starts happening.
You know, I would say that if there really is a God, it would be more along the lines of what the Native Americans in the Southwest felt.
It most certainly would not be the God of a band of desert wandering, flea-bitten, camel-jockey mass murderers that we now call the ancient Hebrews, which through a series of bizarre historical accidents.
Well, you know, everybody comes from bad backgrounds in one way or another, but through a series of historical accidents, the God of that small little band, through Christianity and through Islam, has come to dominate, or at least predominate in about half of the world.
And it's just through a series of history, And if it wasn't that one, it'd be this one over here or that one over there.
I don't believe that the born-agains and the, you know, the particularly religious devotees are going to be all sucked up while the rest of us who haven't taken that step are going to be left behind and be hit by meteor.
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Well, I'd get baptized, you know, but I mean, I hate to put it on someone, you know, out there in outer Mongolia who hasn't, you know.
And by the way, I did get through to his line on his book.
He's going to be really busy on that.
And no, you haven't brought this up yet.
I mean, I could talk about Bosnia, but one thing that's really been on my mind is there was a custody case in Texas where a judge told a woman, she's Mexican by birth, she lives in the United States, and she was trying to make her daughter bilingual, who is five.
And, no, she was teaching both, but she figured that, you know, with Spanish first, she could get immersed in English later.
And I just, for all the English first people out there, if what you're hoping for is that, you know, you just won't be able to hear Spanish out there, this is really scary, you know, because...
Exactly.
But, I mean, that a judge could do this is really, really, really scary to me.
If you want to get ahead in America, it behooves you to learn English.
If you don't learn English, it's like when I went to Japan.
When I was on Okinawa, Japan, in the Far East, I was actually quite fluent in Japanese.
It's gone away because I haven't used it.
But I couldn't have lived.
I mean, I couldn't have lived.
It's really serious.
You've got to learn how to do the basics.
You know, where's the bathroom?
You've got to start right there.
And you've got to learn how to order food.
You've got to learn how to...
So it's an obvious thing here in America.
And what business a judge would have intruding into somebody's home, mandating what language would be spoken, is just absolutely so outrageous that it's hard to even consider seriously.
And it would be laughable if it weren't so detestable.
This comes from Diane listening to KMBC in Los Angeles.
And it's a follow-up.
Yesterday, Diane sent us a story about two men who broke into a mortuary.
This is really awful.
In Los Angeles and stole a bunch of computers and this and that.
But while they were in the mortuary, they had sex with two of the dead female bodies in the mortuary.
And there is nothing to charge them with other than the break-in, I suppose, and stealing whatever they stole, because there is no law.
See if you believe this.
There is no law that says sex with the dead is illegal.
Now, Diane is sending me a fact saying that on a half-hour news, this last half hour, KMPC reported that one of these individuals is the great-nephew of a very important person here in America.
And before I put this on the air, I want some verification of it elsewhere.
I hope that you understand, Diane.
So, you know, if somebody in L.A., please don't fax me.
Call me.
In fact, what I'll do is open a line for L.A. and see if I can get independent verification of this.
And if I can, we'll get it on the air right after the top of the hour news.
This is the gosh-darndest story I have ever seen.
And here it is again, apparently still in the news in Los Angeles.
So, Diane, thank you for keeping me up to date.
And you've been largely on target.
I've got a name here of one of these people, and you're not going to believe who he is related to.
My God, what a story.
So anybody with information on this, before I get it on the air, call me now from Los Angeles, please, at 1-800-618-8255.
I want confirmation of this, please, during the top of the hour news, the next five minutes.
So I'm going to go searching for LA only at 1-800-618-8255.
LA only on that number for five minutes here.
We'll be right back in most markets.
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Well, maybe it'll be fun just to stick around and see how low we can go.
What do you think?
I will snap myself out of this.
It cannot be fun to listen to a talk show host who is depressed.
And I actually admit this morning I am really kind of depressed about the state of mankind.
About the state of mankind.
And, you know, somewhere here I've got the Unibommers quote.
You know, he wasn't altogether wrong, necessarily.
He wasn't altogether wrong.
Says the great guru of modern technology.
I'm dead set in the middle of it.
You know what, though?
I don't think modern technology is the cause.
I think maybe he is really wrong about that.
Modern technology is not the cause, I hope, I think, of the social degeneration that we are clearly seeing.
What is, I'm not altogether sure, but I don't think it is computers or microchips or advances in technology.
I don't think that's causing people to throw babies through windows and drown them and have sex with the dead and do all these kinds of depraved, horrendous, totally indigestible social acts.
I don't think it is technology.
I really don't.
And I don't think it's TV either.
But it is something.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
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Yeah, hi, I'm calling from Eugene, the land of political correctness.
Well, whatever does it for you, sir, thank you very much for the call.
You know, if you've been around for a while in politics, you know what conventions are like.
And it is either going to be, I think it's going to be Bob Dole.
But now, you want to be depressed again, survey says that Colin Powell could beat Bill Clinton by a much bigger margin than could Bob Dole, who is, by the way, in a statistical tie with Colin Powell for the nomination.
Colin Powell would beat Bill Clinton right now, 48 to 33%.
Imagine that.
And if you really want something to worry about, check this out.
Over 70% of the American people say they don't really know very much about Colin Powell, but they're ready to make him president.
But the first thing that came to my mind, yeah, it may be we don't know what the truth is about Detective Furman.
He may be being framed by the scheme team.
But then on the other hand, Colin, how about the other Colin from Jamaica that took it upon himself to weed out the white people on the Long Island commuter train?
It's funny that Colin didn't mention that.
And he, Colin Ferguson, has been convicted, and Colin Powell doesn't realize that that's what the real shame is.
Now, about all the horrible stories that you've been mentioning on the show, you know, the book of Revelation is very deep, but it's very prophetic.
And people fail to mention about the ten kings, ten kings who come to power, seven and then ten, And they'll give their strength to the beast, and they'll give authority to the beast, and they'll be one mind.
And then the Bible also says about people having the nature of brute beasts.
And I think, and I hope I'm wrong, but I think that a lot of times those kings and queens are in NATO countries, Western Europe, and they team up with the United Nations and the United States.
And now it's becoming more very militaristic.
It's becoming, like, and I hate to use this expression, gang warfare, like when it happened in the Persian Gulf in Iraq.
And I certainly wasn't to Saddam Hussein.
I think he deliberately set his people up.
But still in all, when you think of 15, and the whole war was the war against Saddam Hussein.
That's all you heard.
But nothing happened to Saddam Hussein.
But the people were devastated.
15, 20 countries ganging up on one country, Mr. Belt.
And they told the story of the son who goes out and roams the streets of Baghdad for women.
And when he finds a woman that he likes, as in the case of a honeymoon couple, he, according to that program, has the husband beaten or shot, takes the wife away to his hotel room and rapes her, and then instructs his goons to go out and run her over with a car.
Now, I sat and I watched that and I thought, my God, debauchery at its greatest.
But how does that differ marginally from this story we're getting from Los Angeles this morning?
Does anybody want to comment on that?
Horrified as I was at what I saw Sunday, is it really any more horrible than what is going on right here, right now?
Is it really any more horrible than what is going on?
Do we separate ourselves from Iraq that easily and say, they're so bad, we're so good, are we?
Or is it a universal quickening?
Stay right there.
We'll be right back.
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Charlie, Liberal, California.
I must say these end-of-the-world nuts that you've had on lately are really starting to irk me.
These Bible thumpers, you know, if they think, if they're so excited about the end of the world, why don't they all get on a cliff and jump up, jump off the cliff and see God as much as they want?
It absolutely makes me sick to my stomach.
In a sense, they're right.
You know, everybody, most of the people listening to your radio show, yeah, the end of the world is going to come in the next century because probably 99% of the people listening to this show are going to die sometime in the next century, probably relatively early in the next century.
There was a story that began breaking last night out of Los Angeles.
It involved some people, two men, it was thought last night, two Latino men early last night, who broke into a Hollywood Hills mortuary.
They first Reported, as I said, there were two Latinos.
Now, KMPC reported in the last hour that one is named Gonzalez, obviously of Latino extraction.
The other looks dark, but his name actually is Brandon Christopher.
Brandon Christopher, the grand nephew of Warren Christopher, the Secretary of State.
It is alleged these two broke into the Hollywood Hills mortuary, stole some computers and related equipment, but before they left, they had sex with two of the dead bodies.
One woman in a casket was 45 years old.
The other in the preparation room on the table was 75 years old.
And there is no law against having sex with the dead in California.
Now, how do you deal with that story, Charles?
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Well, it's a terrible story.
Although human beings have been doing weird things for thousands of years, and I'm sure humans have been having, some humans have been having sex with other dead people.
I would say that if you look at we've gone forward in some areas, for example, we don't practice slavery anymore.
And unfortunately, we've gone backwards in some areas.
That's true.
But I don't think you can garner up all this and say that the end of the world is coming.
I'm saying, I'm just observing, or this story, Charles, also in this morning in the Sacramento B about a six and seven year old, a six-year-old and seven-year-old were in a fight over a Barbie doll.
These gals, girls, little girls, one said, I'm going to kill you, went into the other room, got a steak, Charlie, and plunged it into the back of the other girl.
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Yeah, I know what you're saying.
I know where you're coming from, but we have this unreal belief that in the olden days or back in human history, everybody was kind and good.
Well, then let me hear your argument go the other way.
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Well, let's put it this way.
You can go back and hitch.
I think it was an Indian girl, and she was executed for killing a seven-year-old white girl.
And you can find acts of butchery and barbarism throughout American history, such as the time that we were burning people for being witches, such as American slavery, which was probably one of the most brutal things practiced, the wiping out of the Indians and the wiping out of the Aztecs.
Human history, if you look through human history, it is full of absolute barbarism.
That's part of human nature.
But humans also have another side that I think we're forgetting.
And as we go into the next century, one of those sides is going to take over.
Maybe you're right, and it's going to be the barbaric side.
But it also could be the positive side.
And that is that human beings also have this power to adapt to new things and to change.
We no longer practice slavery.
We no longer burn people at the stake, at least in most civilized countries.
And so, you know, we could go either way.
And I think that we need to start getting off the negativism and start working on some of these social problems that we have.
But just because we have serious social problems doesn't mean that society is about to collapse.
It's true that there's been barbarism in humanity ever since we've been here.
It does seem as though there's an awfully big rash of totally irrational barbarism and debauchery and all the rest of it at the moment.
So I will consider that.
I really think that from my cat seat, sitting here dealing with the news day in and day out, over now greater than a decade, I'm here to tell you I believe that it is worsening.
I'm here to tell you that it is my observation, truly, folks, that it is not getting better, that it is, in fact, getting worse.
In a lot of ways, I would like to apologize to the audience this morning.
I really have been in a very melancholy, reflective, almost depressed mood.
And you will hear that from me from time to time, and I guess I'm not going to hide it.
It is not my nature.
And I am a little bit up and down, and that is the way I do this program.
I'm not going to hide it.
I could artificially come on here and I suppose mock up anything, if you follow me.
I could kind of hype myself up, and I could even do that right now.
I'm capable of it, but I'm not going to do it ever.
And that occasionally is going to result in your hearing me sound a little more vulnerable than a lot of talkos might allow themselves to be on the air.
I can't do it.
Five hours is too long.
It can't be faked.
We'll be back.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
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Look, I really honestly appreciate your words, but I just, I can't.
I appreciate your words, and I know that you feel that, and you have that, and I don't.
And so I don't put you down.
I don't put religious people down, but I also don't embrace it.
I'm sorry.
I wish I could.
I'm as sorry about it as you, and it causes the world to want to reach out and save me.
But I'm the kind of guy who's got to put my hand on everything that I can then say, yes, I believe.
Or I have faith.
And I know that when I get in this kind of mood, people want to reach out and they want to save me and they want to help me.
It's a natural instinct for anybody who has faith.
And I appreciate that, but I've got to come to it myself if I ever am to.
I cannot be brought to it.
Much as those with faith wish to bring you to it.
This has to come from within me if it's ever going to occur.
And I'm not exactly sure that it has helped by listening to the kind of things that I've, you know, the kind of stories that we've been covering this morning.
It just makes me sick.
That's all.
Is this what a Creator intended for mankind?
To have little children, little girls, stabbing each other?
So that we might grow into a point where mothers will throw their little children through windows without even bothering to open them?
To where people will break in to steal something and while they're at it, and oh, by the way, have some sex with the dead people.
If there is no God and mankind continues to slide into this abysmal black hole that he seems to be going into right now, what was it they once said about nuclear war?
That the living would envy the dead?
Well, maybe it will not take a nuclear war for the living to envy the dead.
Do you follow me?
unidentified
Well, maybe it will not take a nuclear war envy the dead.
Well, first of all, I think that, you know, I mean, there's been some bad news and stuff, but what got you down was this inevitable aspect to what your guest was saying.
And first of all, he was coming at it from that direction.
It's true.
But, you know, then it got backed up by all these signs.
unidentified
Right, but once we get in a mindset of, oh, this is inevitable, and then we start seeing these things, you know, and we can forget, how about all the people who get up every day and do good things?
But the worrisome thing is the percentage of people actually willing to do what I would call evil things is increasing at an exponential rate at the moment.
That is what I see, and that's what depresses me.
unidentified
That's the other thing I wanted to talk about here.
And that is, have you read the book, Generations, the Future of America?
No.
You might be familiar with the concept.
It's the idea that each generation is a certain type, and it repeats in a cycle.
Like the GI generation had been generations like that before.
And that the Boomer generation, your generation, my generation, is a kind of a generation, an idealistic value-forming generation.
And that we go through these cycles, and that we're in a similar point in the generational cycle as we were in the 19 teens, just before World War I. And it was a time when things looked bad, but it's not necessarily inevitable.
It's a cycle that we'll move through this and that we'll have more times where things will be good again.
But it's just a time where there's an upcoming generation that has been a depressed generation, Generation X. And so there's just depression going on here.