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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August the 24th, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good morning or good evening, as the case may be, across time zones, stretching from Tahiti in the Hawaiian Islands to the U.S. Virgin Islands into South America and north to the North Pole.
unidentified		Coast to coast a.m., we still call it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Unscreened, unpredictable, somewhat unreliable.
		On radio, but lots of fun.
		You just never, simply never know what's going to happen, and I can nearly guarantee this is going to be one of those nights.
		The USA Radio News still referring to the referring to the strongholds taken in Iowa, the Dole Graham race, and everybody's trying to figure out is Bob Dole weak?
		Is Bill Graham strong?
		I don't think either one is the case.
		I think Graham did well because Dole is weak, not because Graham is strong, and I just, I don't, I don't, I can't find anybody in the field to get excited about.
		Harry Wu is free.
		Harry Wu, just one man, but indeed a naturalized American citizen, held in a Chinese prison for two months, threatening the possibility of the First Lady's visit to a conference on women's rights in Beijing.
		Women's rights in Beijing.
		I was in China.
		You know, that's really kind of cute.
		Women's rights in Beijing, it's like you can't even say that sentence without smiling or laughing.
		Sentenced to 15 years for spying, then expelled from the country.
		China obviously wanted to send a signal, come on.
		Hillary Clinton, we want you here.
		Wu snuck into China several times.
		Now, you see, now, Wu, while doing a, I guess, heroic thing for human rights, really, you don't sneak into China.
		I tell you, you don't sneak into China.
		He did that several times with a little video camera, capturing images of forced prison labor, which of course they deny.
		And this really does not humor the communists at all.
		They're not a humorous people.
		When I crossed into communist China here, two, three months ago, whenever it was, that's the one thing I noticed more than any other.
		They don't laugh a lot.
		They're very serious people.
		Anyway, Bob Dole says she still should not go.
		He says, quote, I think if I could give her any advice, she ought to stay right here.
		But it looks like the White House will indeed announce the trip is on.
		The First Lady will go to Beijing to talk about women's rights and human rights generally.
		Do you think she ought to go?
		Question one.
		Now that Harry Wu has been sprung, should she go?
		Should Harry Wu try to go sneak back into China again?
		And if he does, does he deserve to get arrested?
		Shouldn't be sneaking into China is bad, bad, bad, bad.
		Should human rights be linked to commerce.
		Now, I guarantee you, you have my word, that China is going to be the 800-pound economic guerrilla of the world in another 10 or 20 years.
		I mean, those who were with me in China here recently know exactly what I'm saying.
		There is going to be no stopping them.
		You might slow them down a little, but you're not going to stop them.
		Now, should commerce be linked to human rights?
		Should we not have commerce with China because they have what Harry Wu got when he snuck into China to take it, proof of prison labor and that sort of thing?
		I don't know.
unidentified		All good questions.
		Get a new view of the world with Coast to Coast AM.
		First of all, I want to just thank you for bringing everyone out here to Cornea Copia just phenomenal knowledge.
		I don't know of anyone else that I've ever listened to at radio that just fills my brain and stimulates me.
		You know, I was listening to the show and I thought to myself, do you think, George, the common citizen such as you or I, really has any hope towards the future of any privacy or anything else?
		I think we do.
		I think eventually so many people will see the light, see what you see, see what I see, that eventually they're going to say enough is enough.
		And I think that we do have a future and we're going to win in the long run.
		It's going to be bumpy along the way.
		It's not going to be easy, but we will get there.
		That's my take.
		And you know what?
		As long as I can continue on the ear waves and tell people this, I shall.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24th, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Windows 95.
		I played it just right last night, I think, and I waited, you know, it came out at midnight.
		and I waited until 3 a.m. Pacific time giving everybody even here on the West Coast lots of time to buy it at midnight run home load it into their computers and then for an hour I opened the line and I asked people how they were doing on it I want to know today now just about everybody who was one of the frantic first buyers and it was a frenzy a consumer feeding frenzy
		generated by probably one of the world's best PR jobs.
		As a matter of fact, Bill Gates was with Jay Leno at Microsoft headquarters in Redmond, Washington.
		And Bill Gates, you know, it surprises me that Jay Leno would stand there in behalf of all talk show hosts.
		Not that he's really a talk show host in that sense.
		And allow Bill Gates to say, of course it was in humor, Windows 95 is so easy, even a talk show host can figure it out.
		Leno just sort of stood there, looking like maybe he was challenged.
		Anyway, Windows 3, 1, and 1.1 is running on 100 million computers, or was, till now.
		So, you know, all I've got to say is I still haven't done it.
		I'm still running scared.
		Have not booted.
		I've got it.
		I've got it on CD here, but I've not booted it into my computer, and I'm still going to wait.
		I'm kind of mixed reviews last night.
		Some people said, well, couldn't find my video card, didn't have a driver for my video card or whatever, and so, you know, I don't know.
		I can't make up my mind.
		Somebody did send me a fax late in the show that never got aired.
		I do not want to get into the Macintosh, you know, the Mac, IBM fight.
		Apple's out there somewhere.
		But I did get this fax.
		Referring to Mac users, here are these Mac fascists, really bug me sometimes.
		So you pay $4,000 for a Mac.
		Then add a $2,000 board, so that it runs like a $2,000 board,
		dollar PC a few years ago I met a Mac fascist who thought that 16.8 million color capability was only available on Mac's funny IBMs running target boards had that two years before the first Mac came out frankly Mac users are so brainwashed they haven't got a clue what goes on on the PC side especially ignorant of the fact that the basic principle of the Mac's visual interface
		was developed at the Xerox Research Center in Palo Alto in the 70s.
		And that principle is, make it so someone with kindergarten pointing skills can operate it.
		Very impressive, Mac.
		Signed, Jeff.
		Well, I don't want to get into that fight, and I'm not going to.
		But I did think that was cute.
		Second time in one week, a major network, ABC, has apologized to the tobacco industry.
		ABC ate a lot of crow here.
		The tobacco industry gloated by reprinting the apology in major newspapers.
		And I don't quite understand the nature of the apology, but it's interesting.
		The whole issue was that of manipulating nicotine levels.
		ABC apologized for the story, which I guess from a litigation point of view satisfied the tobacco companies, but added that they stand by their story.
		So, I'm not exactly sure what ABC is doing here.
		Maybe they're saying, well, we're sorry we ran the story because we didn't want to get into a big legal fight.
		But really, the story is true.
		Modern apologies.
		There's something to behold.
		Generally, when an individual is involved, the modern apology is not, I'm sorry for what I said or did.
		The modern apology, the politically correct apology, is to say, I'm sorry if my words offended anyone.
		Which is also to say, I'm sorry it offended you, but I'm not apologizing to you.
		It's a complicated world we live in today, isn't it?
		Long Island, New York.
		Not so funny.
		A big fire.
		West Hampton area, Long Island.
		It's really on fire now.
		I don't know if you've seen any of the photographs of the fire raging on Long Island right now, but it's frightening.
		I shook my mom's tree at midnight, her time on the East Coast, and said, look, is it close?
		And she said, no, well, it's, you know, to get to me, it would have to jump the bay.
		So, I guess she's okay, you know, but Long Island is, they call it that for a reason.
		It's an island.
		And there's but like one road she can get out of there on, so, you be very careful there, Mom.
		This is a very serious fire.
		Very serious.
		Hurricanes, also very serious.
		One of the busiest years in all of history.
		Hurricane Iris and Humberto are moving north and respectively west, probably gathering strength.
		the remains of tropical storm Jerry, dumping up to 10 inches of rain on parts of Florida, and we are just now beginning to get to the hurricane season.
	The barest beginning.
	This could be something else.
	NBC did a big story on Florida, flight 75 29 the one that uh just crashed and um generally, you can't do much on talk radio with plane crashes.
	They are tragic.
	But this one brings to mind another recent one.
	There were nine minutes of pre-crash flight.
	In other words, for nine minutes, those people lived a nightmare.
	At 18,000 feet, when the plane reached 18,000 feet, there was a sudden explosion.
	One guy said he looked out the window and the propeller was laying up against the wing.
	Not good.
	This plane should have been able to fly on one engine.
	Obviously, it didn't.
	They began losing 2,000 feet a minute, eventually becoming 2,500 feet a minute.
	And finally, the flight attendant, a very brave young lady, told everybody, assume the position.
	So for nine minutes, these people thought they were going to die.
	Several of them, including the pilot, did.
	24, incredibly, you saw the photos, survived.
	Only because they managed to sort of land in a clearing, and there was a minute or two or a few before the plane exploded into flames, so people got out.
	But NBC, I thought, asked a rather intriguing question.
	And that is, is it possible for someone to walk away from nine minutes of thinking they're going to die and ever be the same again?
	And they had some psychologists on there who said, well, you know, about a third of them have no problem.
	A third of them have mild problems.
	And a third of them will have problems that will last the rest of their lives.
	And it's almost unimaginable knowing that you're going to crash and probably going to die.
	And I, you know, with nine minutes left, what would you think?
	How would you handle it?
	What would you do?
	And I wonder what most of them do.
	you've seen the humorous airplane series of movies where everybody throws up their hands and panics at the sign but i kind of doubt I've never been in a plane that crashed, thankfully.
	But I would imagine people become quiet, thoughtful, scared, all those things.
	And I wonder how many by percentage actually panic.
	No court in the O.J. Simpson trial today, but it does not matter.
	It goes on anyway.
	The screenwriter, who's got the tapes, is now refusing to turn any copies of the Furman tapes over to either Furman's new attorney or the LAPD.
	She's not turning them over.
	The district attorney in L.A., Gil Garcetti, said the jury should have the case by late September.
	Furman is going to be recalled to the stand.
	Now this is where it begins to get to be really sticky.
	When they get Detective Mark Furman back on the stand again, they are going to confront him with these tapes.
	According to his lawyer, there's a great likelihood he will take the Fifth Amendment.
	Take the Fifth.
	Now, I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me.
	Incriminate me.
	So, when the jury hears this and sees Mark Fuhrman, Mr. Hard Tough Guy, say, I refuse to answer on the grounds it may tend to incriminate me, what do you think that jury is going to think about the prosecution's case?
	Talking heads on NBC had a pretty good point.
	If these tapes are as bad as it is suggested they are, the prosecution, Marsha Clark, is going to have to go after Mark Fuhrman like a mad dog.
	I mean, she's going to have to be Marcia Clark at her best.
	She is going to literally have to join the defense in going after Mark Fuhrman.
unidentified		It's their only chance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because if the defense, in effect, stays with Fuhrman and gets blown out of the water by Fuhrman, well, the whole case against O.J. Simpson obviously gets blown out of the water as well.
		48 hours on CBS tonight.
		Very, very interesting.
		It seems in the eastern big cities that there is a move on from crack to heroin.
		Now, I know this sounds strange.
		The people down in South America that have been making a lot of crack are switching production now to heroin.
		Heroin is coming in by the numbers from Southeast Asia, most notably Bangkok, that area.
		The brand names, you're going to love this, the brand names of the new heroin so pure that they won't even shoot it anymore.
		They're snorting it now.
		Maybe that's why the people are converting.
		But listen to some of the brand names.
		Would you do some of this?
		Tombstone, poison, suicide, or how about body bag?
		So pure, they say, it's living up to its name.
		Now to give you an idea of the difference in purity, heroin that when I was a kid you'd hear about people buying was anywhere between 4 and 6% pure.
		Now it's 40% or as much as 10 times the purity it once was.
		Being sold out in New York in open marketplaces.
		14, 15 year olds standing there shouting their particular brand name.
		Get your body bag here.
		Get your suicide here.
		I've got poison for you.
		And it's selling like crazy.
		So I have no idea what we're going to do.
		I just have no idea what we're going to do about this.
		All right, let me see.
		I guess I've got to stop here for a moment and take care of a couple of things.
		So let me do that.
		First, let me tell you that as a talk show host, I do a lot of research.
		I call it homework.
		I guess that's left over from my school days homework.
		It is my homework.
		And it occurs before the program.
		Easiest part of the program, by the way, is when I get on the air to do it.
		The homework part is the hard part.
		All right, we're going to break here at the bottom of the hour.
		The stations will accomplish whatever they do at the bottom of the hour.
		And we'll be right back.
		I've got more than open lines, live talk radio throughout the nighttime, right here, unscreened.
		Unpredictable, but fun.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we've got a lot to do.
unidentified		A couple of more new tidbits for you here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got several good faxes.
		This one just hot off the machine.
		Dear Art, I am a deputy sheriff, and I've been so for almost eight years.
		Today I lost my first drunk driving case out of the more than 125 DUI arrests I've made.
		It should have been a slam-dunk case, but the jury decided to believe the defendant's wife instead of two deputies.
		As a deputy, I've never lied to anyone, planted evidence, taken a bribe, or covered up for another deputy.
		Likewise, I've never seen another deputy or officer do any of these things.
		I think these things do happen, but only on a small scale when compared to the amount of law enforcement activity that goes on in our country.
		I can't begin to count how many times in the last two years I've had to listen to slobbering drunks in the back of my patrol car say things like, are you going to beat me like Rodney King?
		Or I bet you thought Waco was a good thing, huh, cop?
		Lately, the comparisons have been with Mark Fuhrman.
		I sincerely pray the public does not lose their faith and confidence in their police officers based on a few dishonest cops.
		We will all be the losers, except for the criminals.
		Thanks for letting me vet our.
		I hate that term, he says here.
		Scott, up in Oregon.
		That's an interesting, kind of an interesting fact, because I knew it was going on.
		I knew the whole Rodney King thing and Ruby Ridge and Waco and now the Furman deal reflects on every cop in this country.
		And it's sad.
		It's terribly sad.
		And I don't even know what to say about it.
		They're the ones getting the headlines.
		You know, all the good busts, all the good rests, all the bad guys taken off the street.
unidentified		We're lucky if we ever read about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art, with respect to whether Hillary ought to go to Beijing, I'm reminded of one person who said once about President Nixon's trip to China.
		I understand he should go to China.
		What I don't understand is why he should come back.
		Hi, Art.
		Is it true that Judge Ito canceled court proceedings yesterday because he's busy installing Windows 95 on his computer, regards Jed.
		No, Jed.
		He attended a funeral, actually.
		And I've got so much more stuff here, not time for it.
		Let us open the lines and let's just have a good old-fashioned night of you name it.
		We'll talk about it, talk radio, and I'll kind of fit some of the rest of this in as I can.
		Boy, I've got some wild stuff here.
		So here we go.
		If you would like to call for the first time ever, the number is area code 702-727-1222.
unidentified		That's if you've never called before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that lines, you know, it's a little easier to, well, actually, it's hard to get in on now, even now, but it is a little easier than the other ones.
		The wildcard lines, direct dial, area code 702-727-1295-1295.
		Then toll-free, west of the Rockies, it's 1-800-618-8255.
		1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies, it's 1-800-825-5033.
		So easy, even a talk show host can understand it.
		Boy, that rankles me.
		Come on, Bill.
		I should have tried to get Bill Gates on, huh, and interviewed him.
		1-800-825-5033, east of the Rockies, east of the Rockies is where we're going.
		You're on the air number one.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Hi.
		This is Tony calling from Wichita, Kansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tony.
unidentified		Hey, I really, really appreciate your show.
unidentified		I think it's one of the most relevant on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I'd just like to make a comment about Pat Buchanan and some response to your comment that he's an isolationist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I see him more as a protectionist.
unidentified		And I don't have a problem with that because it seems that Japan is the most protectionist country in the world, and they've also got the strongest economy in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For the moment.
		Well, no, and I really mean that for the moment.
		China is going to make mince meat out of it.
		I guarantee you, sir, China will do to Japan in a bigger way and a more damaging way what Japan has done to us.
unidentified		Guaranteed.
unidentified		You think we should be more open in the same way that China is open?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		I think that we should act in a protectionist way.
		And here's where my position delineates from Pat's.
		I want us to act in a protectionist way in order to force markets open, their markets.
		Japan has been screwing with us for years.
		And I thought the president was going to get tough and really do something about it, and he wimped out.
		So I applauded that when I thought it was real.
		I was sick when I found out it was just a big old bluff and a bunch of noise, usual Bill Clinton stuff.
		True.
		I would slam on big-time tariffs until they took theirs down, and I would really mean it.
		However, when they took theirs down, I would take ours down.
		I am an advocate of free open trade, but fair.
unidentified		Well, fair enough.
		I just think, you know, maybe we ought to give him a chance.
		Maybe we ought to look at his ideas a little bit more closely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the country is going to do that, and maybe he will modify some of them to some degree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's, what, came out third in Iowa, I believe.
unidentified		Well, I don't know.
		He just seems like he's got a lot of good ideas, and he seems real.
		You know what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He is real.
		Oh, that's absolutely one thing true about Pat Buchanan.
		Thank you very much.
unidentified		He's real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What he says, he means.
		There's no doubt about it.
		Pat Buchanan is an ideologically pure person.
		And I admire him for that.
		What I'm trying to do right now is...
		He's done Crossfire and programs like it for so long now that he has made pretty radical statements from time to time that would be immediately categorized and dredged up on a regular basis by the Clinton campaign if Pat was the Republican candidate.
		The California governor, I think, came in 1% in Iowa.
		He's not a contender.
		I cannot imagine the California governor taking anything at a Republican convention, which is going to tend to be kind of right-wing, as all conventions are anyway.
		Bob Dole, I don't believe, can beat Bill Clinton.
		Phil Graham, I do not believe, can beat Bill Clinton.
		So I'm stuck.
		I'm not excited right now about anybody.
		Just me.
		Maybe that'll change, but for now, Lamar Alexander certainly has not caught fire.
		Nobody's really caught fire.
		And I think what Iowa said was that, guess what, folks?
		Bob Dole is not nearly as strong as everybody said.
		At least the networks, I always knew he wasn't.
		And Phil Graham did well, not because Phil Graham is strong, but because Bob Dole's weak.
		So what did Iowa say?
		Well, it said basically what I'm saying.
		Nobody's too excited, really, about anybody.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Hello?
		No, you're not.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Mike calling you from Madison, Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Mike.
unidentified		I'd like to weigh in on this China thing.
		Sure.
		I don't buy the idea that giving China commerce will somehow raise the standard of living and thus the political consciousness of the people who live in China.
		I think that what we'll be doing is enabling them to make more sophisticated weapons and to beef up their armed forces.
		And they really won't let us influence basic life in mainland China as far as the political ideology.
		I think the Chinese people need to straighten their act out on their own and then the rest of the world can welcome them.
		They have totally trashed Tibet and nothing is ever said about that.
		If a situation like that happened in Europe, there would have been a war over it a long time ago already.
		And I think due to the fact that they are geographically as isolated as they are over there, they can pretty much do whatever they want to their immediate neighbors and to their in you know their indigenous population and the rest of the world will never be able to do anything about it.
		I mean that's what China has depended upon for centuries already is the relative isolation in that corner of Asia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alright, well that is one compelling argument.
		The other compelling argument is, if you have been to China or seen China, as I have, you will know what a formidable force it is going to be.
		And with as many people as they have in China right now, counted in the billions, not the millions, can you, can we, can the world afford to ignore China?
		and if we do do we do it at our own parallel and i
unidentified		I oscillate between these positions do you think that if we if we don't ignore them that there's something to be said for the fact that we will be making them a more sophisticated society and that in some ways they may be more dangerous because of that well I guess I'm an advocate of economic upswing being followed by political change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It seems almost inevitable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And China has changed a little bit, sir, and it's because of the economic change.
unidentified		Well, you saw it.
		I mean, I take your word for it.
		I trust your opinion on that.
		I'm just wondering if a situation develops where free and open trade to China is the norm, I think that might enable them to get a hold of a lot of technology that right now they have to go through a lot of back doors to get.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they've already got the bomb.
unidentified		Well, as soon as they can figure out how to deliver it, then what do we all do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, who says they haven't?
		Thank you very much for the call.
		It is a hard call.
		It's really a hard call, but I've got to tell you that I'm an advocate, I believe, of as long as they don't get crazy, and the Harry Wu case was kind of crazy, as long as there are not more Canaman squares,
		and as long as they appear headed in the right direction, then I would think commerce should continue with China, and that whatever human rights gripes we've got against them, at least then we've got some influence.
		I'll tell you, if we cut off the commerce, then we have no influence.
		Nothing at all.
		No way to crowbar China into doing anything they don't want to do.
		If there are billions of dollars at stake, then the next time we've got a Harry Wu situation, he too or they too will be ejected from the country instead of getting a bullet in the back of the head.
		so it's a close call but having influence i think is better than not Get a new view of the world with Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		First of all, I want to just thank you for bringing everyone out here to Cornucopia just phenomenal knowledge.
		I don't know of anyone else that I've ever listened to at radio that just fills my brain and stimulates me.
		You know, I was listening to the show and I thought to myself, do you think, George, the common citizen such as you or I, really has any hope towards the future of any privacy or anything else?
		I think we do.
		I think eventually so many people will see the light, see what you see, see what I see, that eventually they're going to say enough is enough.
		And I think that we do have a future and we're going to win in the long run.
		It's going to be bumpy along the way.
		It's not going to be easy, but we will get there.
		That's my take.
		And you know what?
		As long as I can continue on the earwaves and tell people this, I shall.
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		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24th, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got an anti-militia letter here that I'm going to save for the top of the hour and we'll see what you think of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Bob from Oaklake, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, I just, the other day you were talking about the quickening, and I just wanted to say that people like Charlie and Dr. D are good arguments for that happening pretty soon.
unidentified		And I sure hope that Windows 95 is pretty easy so they can use it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think, would you call them architects of the quickening?
unidentified		Yes, I would.
unidentified		At least a founding stone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have Windows 95?
unidentified		No, I'm a programmer and I use computers quite often.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I've, like you, I find DOS, I'm just secure with DOS.
		I don't like Windows.
		I don't like mouses.
		I'm a keyboard type user.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like Windows.
unidentified		I just never really did.
unidentified		I know I understand 9 out of 10 people use it, but maybe I'm just mind you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like both.
		I like DOS and I like Windows.
		And I would be sad not to have DOS anymore.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's probably, I'll In the early days of ham radio, we operated on AM.
		Just like regular AM stations.
		And then along came sideband, something called single sideband.
		It makes you sound a little like Mickey Mouse.
		But it was far more efficient.
		It did not use as much frequency or bandwidth, so more people could be on.
		It went farther more efficiently.
		But I couldn't stand it.
		I loved the good old quality of AM, and I resisted for years and years and years.
		And just like I'm kind of resisting Windows 95 right now.
		All right, thank you very much.
		I'm just kind of stuck in my ways.
		Maybe that defines conservative.
		I don't know.
		Maybe that's the conservative part of me.
		I've been so close, I'm telling you.
		I put Windows 95 in there and I pushed the button and I've done the first initial things.
		And it's good because it always gives you the chance to chicken out and restore.
		And every time I've taken that opportunity and I've chickened out and moused out, you might say.
		Wild card line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, dear.
		Ari.
		I haven't talked to you for a while.
		This is Nikki in Belltown.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Washington, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		By the way, only two blocks from the Wheel of Fortune Space Needle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is the Wheel of Fortune still on it?
unidentified		Well, you can't see it.
		And I think, well, actually, Vanna White was on top of the Space Needle for photos.
		And I'm sure it's probably already gone by now.
		I'm calling about, well, this time I'm interested in studying maps.
		And I found Montserrat Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A Montserrat, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, I saw something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I'll tell you, it looks bad.
unidentified		Yes, it does.
		It does.
		So I think that's interesting.
		It's in the same chain there with Mount Palais.
		Is that how you say it?
		That went off, you know, like gangbusters a long time ago.
		I'll call another time when we're not so close to the hour because I have a theory on the Noah's Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
unidentified		Yes, and I have some information, but it makes sense to me.
		You know, I mentioned I study maps, and the theory that I have bought into makes sense.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we will do it another time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Noah's Ark.
unidentified		Can you imagine that on Mount Ararat?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A ship larger than the Queen Mary.
		Now, what would that be doing up the top of Mount Ararat?
		What do you suppose it would be doing there?
		How do you suppose it got there?
		Interesting questions.
		Right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Harry Wu is out.
		That may mean the First Lady is in.
		This is nutshell news.
		They're selling a lot of heroin in New York.
		Brand names like Tombstone now.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, give me a bag of Tombstone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Poison, suicide, body bag.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, there's a good one.
unidentified		How about a little white powder called Body Bag?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So pure it's being snorted.
		Not even shot with a needle anymore.
		Southeast Asia, the main supplier, and the Colombians are gearing up.
		Windows 95 is out.
		It was the world's best PR job.
		The only objection I had to the whole day was Bill Gates with Jay Leno, who said Windows 95 is so easy, even a talk show host can figure It out.
		I wonder what Jay Leno's comeback to that was, or he even had one.
		They showed it on the news, and it looked like Jay Leno just sort of stood there as the.
		But I'm sure that's not the case.
		They just didn't include his report.
		Hopefully, he had one.
		Have you yet loaded Windows 95?
		Do you like it?
		There was a big discussion on Crossfire yesterday, and they had some guy who thought the computer is the devil's tool, who thinks the computer is replacing personal relationships, who thinks the computer is isolating us from each other, who thinks the computer is evil.
		And there is a case that can be made for that.
		I'm not going to make it, but he did.
		And in a sense, it does tend to isolate us.
		I'm very thankful for it.
		Without computer and satellite technology, I could not do what I do.
		That is, broadcast comfortably from my own home, here in the middle of the desert, truly as much in the middle of nowhere as you can be, and yet at my fingertips have all the news services, all the newspapers and internet connections and websites and satellite television news and CNN.
		And, you know, everything I use to compile the information for the program is made possible by this kind of technology.
		So I'm going to be the last person to attribute it to the devil, but this guy did.
		And you may want to respond to it.
		Maybe it's even part of the quickening.
		I don't know.
		I'm open-minded.
		In the O.J. Simpson trial, the screenwriter is not turning over the tapes to anybody, including Furman's new lawyer or the LAPD.
		Gil Garcetti says trial ought to go to the jury by late September, they're now calculating.
		Detective Furman's going to go back on the stand.
		His attorney is saying he may take the Fifth Amendment.
		That's going to go over like a lead balloon with a jury, I'm sure.
		I said I would read this at the top of the hour, and so I'm going to.
		It is an anti-militia thing from Al up in Medford, Oregon, which is really kind of the home to a lot of this sort of thing.
		Hartbell, I've heard a lot of noise recently about the constitutional right of citizens to form militia groups in the country.
		Have you noticed how the proponents of militia groups seldom refer to phrase in the Constitution, well-regulated militia, when they try to justify their existence?
		They usually just refer to the fact that militias are allowed by the U.S. Constitution.
		I really doubt that our founding fathers had intended for private citizen militia groups to well-regulate themselves.
		Yet, this seems to be the position the groups take.
		In fact, nowhere in the Constitution does it say these militia groups were to be made up of self-appointed private citizens.
		I feel our founding fathers had intended for our various levels of elected officials to form and regulate the militia groups that would protect, defend, and enforce the laws of the various jurisdictions.
		These would be our police departments, state police, county sheriffs, and National Guard.
		I don't think the drafters of our Constitution had in mind paranoid, gun-toting malcontents who hide behind the title of patriot.
		Their pirating of and the use of this word is beginning to give it a bad connotation.
		Perhaps the title, in quotes, overgrown Boy Scout with a bad attitude, end quote, would be more appropriate.
		Al from Medford.
		Dear Art, now you've got to understand, I don't pre-read these, so sometimes it's a little hard to read what people write.
		Where is a wheel?
		It is a wonder to me why anyone would find reports that Seattle's needle has been altered to resemble Pat's wheel to be surprising.
		Seems the total commercialization of American fixtures and fashion is imminent.
		Consider the entire genre of the game show.
		These popular programs exist for most intents and purposes as half-hour advertisements for their sponsors.
		Under the guise of presenting prizes to contestants, the Wheel of Fortune succeeds in selling much more than vowels.
		So, does the suggested modification of a landmark surprise me?
		No.
		It does, however, leave me to consider the possibilities of what could follow.
		Will Miss Liberty's torch be replaced by a coke and a smile?
		Might it be that Mickey's likeness will appear as an addition to Mount Rushmore?
		And finally, could Minnesota's Mall of America be declared a national monument?
		I guess Pat, Vanna, and the rest of us will just have to wait and see.
		I, unlike last night's caller Crystal, do not interpret your attitude with regard to the late Texas millionaire final fling to be sexist or offensive.
		As a woman in my early 20s, who is fortunate to be blessed with both intelligence and good looks, I am flattered by your appreciation of feminine charm.
		Perhaps it will flatter you to know that you are the only man that I choose to share my bedroom with nightly, and doing so brings me great pleasure.
		Signed, Tanya, in Cogotown, San Diego.
		P.S. In response to recent events discussed on the show that you have attributed to the quickening, one resounding sentiment comes to mind.
	Mama never said there'd be days like this.
	Yeah, mama never did.
	Though my mama's having quite a day of her own.
	She lives out on the tip of Long Island, whereas you know wildfires are presently raging.
	And I actually talked to her at the bottom of the last hour and I was going to let her go on the air and talk to you, but she said you already told them what they need to know.
	To get to my mom, it would have to jump over the bay and it's not going to do that.
	Those fires are really bad, so keep your eyes and ears open, Mom.
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		At this point, I'm not happy with the direction that government is taking us.
		I'm happy with the fact that Americans are beginning to wake up and stand up and do what they have to do and shout and scream and blog.
		And I think that's critical.
		And I think that's what's going to save the Republic.
		I think in the long run, as we go through all this stuff, it's the people who will save us and our country will remain strong.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24th, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a prediction from a listener here for you in a moment, but right now, back to the unexpected.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, hello, Art.
		I just wanted to say that your fellow that wrote you from Oregon about the militia probably misses the point when he lumps together the sheriffs and the National Guard, because actually these people have different jurisdictions and different things that they deal with, and lumping them all together as some sort of unified police force is kind of a phony concept.
		So I think he probably misses the point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They do, however, work together.
unidentified		Well, that's true.
unidentified		And hopefully when they work together, the result won't be something like Wake Oak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hopefully, but that is exactly what the result was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That began with the BATF, as I recall, involved local law enforcement, and then the FBI, I believe, and even certain aspects of the military.
unidentified		Yeah, and actually it seemed to me that it should have stopped at the local level.
		But I wanted to talk about tobacco, the war on tobacco.
		It seems to me that the Stamp Act was the definitive thing that really got the American Revolution going, and that tobacco played a huge part in this country being able to win its independence from England.
		And I think it's kind of interesting that this president has chosen to attack tobacco in such a way, and that actually tobacco is one of the, like it or not, one of the foundations of this country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir, thank you.
		You know, I wonder about the Canadians.
		Now, I get calls from Canadians, and they say, you know what, we pay for a pack of cigarettes up here at $4 or $5.
		Try and imagine that.
		$4 or $5 for a pack of cigarettes.
		Now, I imagine that's done a lot to curb smoking.
		I wonder what they do up in Canada.
		I mean, the person who smoked an average of, say, a couple of packs a day in Canada, that's a $10 habit a day.
		How could you handle that?
		Might roll your own, I suppose.
		I don't know.
		Such an incredible price.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		This is Owen from Princeton, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Owen.
unidentified		No, it's kind of slow as far as news is concerned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		Generally in August, you know, Congress is away.
		The President's out doing whatever he's doing on vacation.
		And yeah, that's right.
unidentified		Yeah, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to ask you a question that I've always wanted to know.
unidentified		You've been on the air here in Minnesota probably about a couple months now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About that.
unidentified		And I've always wondered, what's the alien line art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you have never heard the alien line.
unidentified		Well, you might have had it on the air, but I probably wasn't a listener then.
unidentified		I don't know for sure, but I've never heard it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, the alien line, it's right that you would bring this up because it's been a long time.
		Maybe I should open it up.
		The alien line is when I restrict a line to only aliens.
unidentified		Well, don't open it up tonight, because then I'd want to call it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to tell me you're an alien.
unidentified		Well, some would say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		some would say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're either You're either an alien or you're not.
unidentified		Well, sometimes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, you're really not, are you?
unidentified		No, I'm not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're just a strange human.
unidentified		But, uh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's what it is.
		I open a line, and only aliens are allowed to call it.
		And it never wants for callers.
		I'm telling them.
		So it's a lot of fun.
		Maybe I'll do it.
unidentified		Okay, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you want me to do it?
unidentified		Well, I can't hear you very well tonight.
		Maybe tomorrow night.
		You're not coming in very good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
unidentified		We're having a big storm here in Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
		All right.
		All right.
		Maybe tomorrow night then.
		Friday night and Saturday mornings are typical good alien line nights.
		So if you've never heard it, maybe I'll do it tomorrow night.
		Listen to this prediction.
		Take it for what it's worth.
		10.19 p.m., 24 August, 95.
		Dear Art, I may be, this is from Charlotte, by the way, who I respect on a lot of levels.
		A re-earthquake prediction.
		I may be wrong, but usually I'm not.
		Within the next 48 hours from the above time, let me give it to you again, 10.19 BM, 24 August, 95, we can expect significant volcanic and or earthquake activity.
		Unfortunately, I am not able to pinpoint locations, but usually I pick up an approximate north-south axis from Portland area until it reaches Southern California, then spread southeast and southwest in a fan pattern.
		I've been able to predict volcanic and earthquake activity for 18 years, and it is getting more and more concentrated, with severe physical and different symptoms relating to each type of event.
		I realize it sounds odd, but I believe you have a mind open to all possibilities, so please note the time and date.
		And if an occurrence happens, it will be confirmed.
		If not, I was wrong this time.
		Okay, there you've got it.
		Charlotte, on the record.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Crystal in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Crystal in Seattle.
unidentified		Two nights in a row.
		Wow.
		Actually, I didn't call to defend myself.
		I heard your facts that you just read from that woman down there.
		And actually, you know, I love men.
		And I'm really proud of being a woman, too, and I love being a woman.
		And I wanted to say something, too.
		I think, like, last night, it probably sounded like...
		Some of your sharp listeners probably thought, you know...
		Like a what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Feminist.
unidentified		Well, like a contradiction in terms.
		In other words, I said I was 45, but I look like I'm 35, and I was attacking men for being attracted to form.
		And that's kind of like I was defending myself, too, for being the age that I am.
		But, you know, men are, you know, exposed to, you know, thousands of pictures of beautiful women, you know, in the media all the time.
		So no wonder they get.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know who I really like more than anybody else right now?
unidentified		Who?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, do you watch CNN at all?
unidentified		I don't have cable.
unidentified		No, I'm not a television.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen the little girl who works for one of the other phone companies and she peeks out from behind a computer and she says, AT ⁇ T, you're not going to like this.
unidentified		Oh, I hate that commercial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but she's so cute.
unidentified		Well, see, now this is sexism.
		This is why you were defending Packwood.
		Oh, a little kiss.
		But, you know, see, women go into the workplace to perform, and men are always judging them on how they look.
		Oh, she's so cute.
		You know, men would love a little pat on the butt.
		Yeah, oh, that's great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
unidentified		Now, she's so cute is a long way from a pat on the butt.
unidentified		But that's the next step.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, right.
unidentified		So's heroin from Milk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come on now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have we really come to the point in this country where somebody can't say something like that, oh, she's so cute, without being accused of being a packwood?
unidentified		Well, see, women know, see, men don't understand.
		The majority of men don't understand that the women go in to the workplace, they want to perform, they want to do a good job.
		And if men are just judging them on their looks, women are like a beauty conscious every day of their lives.
		So men are always judging them.
		First thing on how they look.
		Oh, she's so cute or whatever.
		You want to go in there and perform and do your job well.
		Go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, maybe she does a wonderful job, you know.
		And I'm not saying that she does not.
		I'm referring now to this little operator.
		She's probably even a model.
		I doubt she's maybe she is a real operator.
		I don't know.
unidentified		So who cares?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, what's the matter with just saying she's cute?
unidentified		Because it judges the woman on her looks.
		And Mandela, you know, you want to be judged on your performance.
		That's the thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then do what I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go on radio, not television.
unidentified		All right, Louis.
		That's not why I called.
		My understanding is that you were not for this women's conference in China.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not only no, but hell no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		China has about as much regard for women's rights.
unidentified		Well, of course.
		That's exactly why you want to have it there.
		You go to the source.
		What point would it be to have a women's conference in Scandinavia where women are equal with men, where I am, my ancestors are from?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe because the chief criticisms are going to be of China.
		China is now beginning to regret that it ever invited them there in the first place because of exactly what I just said.
		They're going to get blasted.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be lucky if a bunch of them don't get arrested.
unidentified		Yeah, and you know, and the other thing I wanted to say in regards to them becoming an economic power, it may happen, but they're also going to have a huge problem because their sexism, of course, baby boys are valued.
		Families are only allowed to have one child, and they value the baby boy.
		So all these baby girls are being abandoned in orphanages.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of them are just being drowned like puppies.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And so, and then many women here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, Crystal, I'm out of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send me a picture and I'll let you know if I think you're cute.
unidentified		Oh, I'm at nine and a half.
unidentified		I'm taking off a half appointment because of my age.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Goodbye, Crystal.
unidentified		Goodbye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anybody else know the girl I'm talking about in that commercial?
		And then the crowning moment is after she's delivered this message to AT ⁇ T, she has this little smile that, and I can only figure the AT ⁇ T executives absolutely go bonkers when they see it.
		It's sort of a gotcha, have a nice day, AT ⁇ T kind of smile.
		And I think she's the cutest button.
		We'll be right back.
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		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
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		You are listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from August the 24th, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, here's a fax that I would have read.
		Actually, it's pretty good fax.
		It's from Jack of California.
		But Jack made a big mistake.
		He wrote at the end of the fax, you can't deny this truth and don't dare read this on the air.
		Jack, I don't rise to that bait anymore.
		You know what I do with faxes that say you won't dare read this on the air?
		That's what I do with them.
		I don't rise to that bait anymore.
		So those of you who want me to read a fax on the air, don't write down in the end, you won't dare read this on the air, because you're right, I won't.
		It has nothing to do with a dare.
		It has to do with no longer rising to the bait.
		Art, good taste.
		You, me and a friend were discussing how we would switch to MCI in a heartbeat.
		That's it.
		MCI, that's got the girl.
		If they just had her call us personally, smiles, Shidosha from Omaha, Nebraska.
		And Artville, I agree that no one in the Republican Party has caught fire.
		Consider that such is the case with most of talk radio being conservative, with day-to-day bashing of Clinton.
		Yeah, I know.
		Yet at this time, he is enjoying very strong popularity.
		Does this mean that talk radio has no influence?
		Or does it mean the voters are more liberal than conservative?
		I don't believe Clinton can beat the polls in 96.
		As a matter of fact, by 96, I believe the Republicans will be voted out of office in great numbers.
		I do believe the Christian right will have moved into a third party.
		Perhaps it will be united we stand.
		I agree with you on China.
		They will walk through Japan and have a great impact on the Western world by the year 2000 from Ramon.
		It is true.
		They will.
		Nothing is going to stop it.
		The world might be able to slow it down a little bit by not dealing with China.
		But in the end, China is going to do what China is going to do.
		And, you know, if you doubt that, go take a visit, go take a look, and it'll be a revelation for you, believe me.
		Here aren't with the revelation of the Furman tapes.
		The Simpson trial will fail in the district attorney's attempt at conviction.
		It's an all-too-obvious conclusion.
		After the people, taxpayers of L.A. and former Detective Furman are done enriching the wallets of Mr. Cochran, Bailey, and of course Mr. Simpson, what happened in the civil lawsuit of Rodney King versus the city of Los Angeles will be seen to be a nuisance suit.
		By the way, the cost will be the potential lost income of Mr. Simpson's commercial value for the rest of his natural life.
		You know, that could be true.
		Everybody talks about the potential civil liabilities on all sides of this, but have they thought about a real acquittal?
		And then Mr. Simpson's civil position.
		In other words, he could go after the city, couldn't he?
		I would suppose.
		If it is a complete acquittal.
		Dewberry, huh, in Texas?
		Dear Art, I'm up and running.
		It was relatively easy as compared to the beta version, meaning Windows 95.
		A little tip before you install is take out all of your TSR programs from memory, change your swap settings to temporary.
		They already are.
		You shouldn't have any problem with installation after that.
		Glad to hear about Dreamland coming to WOAI land on Sundays, and indeed it is.
		Ms. Art, I think from Houston, Texas, checking through the NARTSH directory, I found no listing for you under Talk Broadcasters or CBC under Syndicators.
		Have you and CBC been approached for membership?
		No, you know, you see, it's an interesting thing that we have done with this program, and we are going to continue to do it this way.
		A lot of the talk show hosts out there go running from convention to convention.
		They're at every NAB convention.
		They go shooting off to appear before C-SPAN.
		They join all these various organizations.
		I am not a joiner.
		So we don't do that.
		We just keep trucking and doing what we're doing.
		And it's working just fine.
	Thank you very much.
	So we're not joiners.
	And that's the name of that tune.
unidentified		Get a new view of the world with Coast to Coast AM.
		First of all, I want to just thank you for bringing everyone out here to Cornucopia.
		Just phenomenal knowledge.
		I don't know of anyone else that I've ever listened to at radio, and that just fills my brain and stimulates me.
		But, you know, I was listening to the show, and I thought to myself, do you think, George, the common citizen such as you or I, really has any hope towards the future of any privacy or anything else?
		I think we do.
		I think eventually so many people will see the light, see what you see, see what I see, that eventually they're going to say enough is enough.
		And I think that we do have a future, and we're going to win in the long run.
		It's going to be bumpy along the way.
		It's not going to be easy, but we will get there.
		That's my take.
		And you know what?
		As long as I can continue on the airwaves and tell people this, I shall.
		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Art Bell First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		Oh, fine.
unidentified		Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Is this Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art Bell.
unidentified		Oh, wonderful.
		You know, this is the first time I've ever called.
		I always wonder why you advertise mattresses, because once they get hooked on you, no one ever gets to bed anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, look, now, you've got to remember, a good night's sleep is just an expression, and a good day's sleep is every bit as good as a good night's sleep.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		Well, you know, the first night I ever heard you was when Gordon Michael Scallion was on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes.
unidentified		That was quite a night to be introduced to your program.
		And I also heard you say something about, the reason I called was you had mentioned something about Pat Robertson.
		And he is writing a book called The End of the Age.
		And in it is a lot of the things that Gordon Michael Scallion is talking about.
		However, his is more probably from a religious side.
		But it's amazing how both people of the religious side and the people of, you know, just people that are wondering about what's happening in the world are all getting the same kind of a feeling that something is in the air.
		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something, look, there's no question about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something is in the air.
unidentified		Well, one of the things that was really interesting that he said, and I didn't realize that, was that the Kobe, Japan quake came a year to the day of the Northwood quake.
unidentified		It was quite a coincidence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is your inclination to party or pray?
unidentified		Pardon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is your inclination to party or pray?
unidentified		No, I am, I know this isn't a religious program or anything, but no.
unidentified		I am taking it as God warning it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I really, where are you, by the way?
unidentified		Oh, I'm in Reading, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reading?
unidentified		Yes.
		Of course, I live in California where all these things.
		He also was talking about, he was also talking about a meteorite.
		This is before I even heard this, that we had a near miss.
		I'm sure you've heard that from your astronaut friends, that we have had a near miss, what they call a near miss in our constellations area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Several of them.
unidentified		And of course, nobody would tell us.
		They wouldn't tell us because the panic.
		But he did say that, you know, if one even three miles wide went into the, well, they signed it, say, he didn't say that, went into the Gulf of Mexico, I don't know whether he means the ways or what it was, but it would extend up to Missouri.
		Does that sound logical to you?
		So I'm thinking about hailboff, you know, and it's, what was it, 100 miles across or 133 miles across?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		100, a minimum, they're saying now, of 100 miles across.
		Others have said as much as 1,000.
		Thank you very much for your call.
		Either way, it wouldn't matter.
		The estimated size of the ones, the one that did in the dinosaurs, I think, was about five miles.
		So, what more should I say?
		I will read.
		Art, you didn't do your homework.
		The Washington Times is owned by Sung Meng Moon.
		Are you a Moonie?
		I'm very disappointed.
		Gary, Kodiak.
		No, Carrie, I've known that for actually for years now.
		Gary, it makes no difference.
		Look, the Washington Times prints the truth.
		The Washington Times prints stories that other newspapers simply are afraid to hang on to.
		So I don't care who owns it.
		I care about the content of it, Gary.
		And I think it's pretty widely known that that is the case.
		So what?
		Am I a Mooney?
		Gary, I'm a Mooney.
		You mean you didn't know I was a Mooney, Gary?
		I'm a CIA operative as well.
		I'm 84.3 levels above top secret.
		I have my own private bathroom at the Council of Foreign Relations office.
		And I'm a movie.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Good morning.
		Turn your radio off, sir.
unidentified		It's off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
unidentified		Actually, it is.
		My TV's on.
		No, that's off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Sioux Falls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		K-S-O-O.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is your moment.
unidentified		Is this ours?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call the wildcard lines.
		Area 702-727-1295.
		Sir, you just hit a touch tone.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to request you don't do that again.
unidentified		All right, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so now you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it is an MCI commercial.
unidentified		Sir, an MCI commercial?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, uh-huh.
unidentified		Here's a trivia question for you.
		You know what movie she played in?
		No.
		Uncle Buck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never saw Uncle Buck, so I don't know.
unidentified		You see it?
		You'll see her.
		She's the oldest daughter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My mom, I'm sorry, I never even heard of the movie.
unidentified		John Candy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it an old movie?
unidentified		No, it'll last five, six years.
unidentified		It's a comedy with John Candy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay, then anyway, she's OJ.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, before we leave her.
unidentified		Okay.
		Is she cute or what?
		Oh, yeah.
		She's a sweetheart.
		She's a little sweetheart, and she's a sweetheart in the movie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, then I'm going to have to go look up Uncle Buck, I guess.
unidentified		All right, with John Candy.
		She's got the cutest smile you've ever seen.
		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now, on to OJ.
unidentified		Okay, let me ask you something.
		If that ends up in a hung jury and they go to retry him, if the state elects to...
		Well, let me ask you a question.
		How on earth will they ever find 12 people for jury or alternates?
		If they sequestered this one for the whole trial, the whole nation is seeing this trial.
		How could they ever find a jury at this time again?
		That could be impartial or say that they've never heard of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It really is a very good question and one to which I don't have the answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would like to say there are people out there that have totally ignored O.J. Simpson, but I don't think that's possible.
unidentified		I don't think it's possible at all.
		I mean, on every news hour, every place you go, there's something on, or an update, or late night or whatever.
		There's always something on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, is it not interesting that for a long time they were losing jurors right and left, but you notice that lately they have not been losing jurors.
unidentified		They can't.
		They lose any more jurors.
		What do they only have?
		Two alternates left?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something like that, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
		But I'm just curious, how could they ever find anyone to say no?
		They don't know anything about the trial.
		and by now i would think that most people that watch that or follow it have come to some sort of conclusion in their own mind already i don't think speaking of cute girls did you uh...
		I saw it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you?
		I thought she was the most soft-spoken, warm, pleasant kind of person that I've seen in a long, long time.
		She was really a nice lady.
unidentified		But did they ever establish exactly why she supposedly had written a note or was going to write a book or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I wasn't clear on that.
		She is going to write a book.
		She said so.
unidentified		But she wasn't real clear on why she was kicked off of the jury either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but her comments were all very interesting.
		Thank you, including those about the other jurors and all the rest of it.
		My God, what an intelligent woman.
		Beautiful as well.
		Soft-spoken, very pleasant personality.
		And I cannot remember her name.
		It doesn't matter.
		The interviews were all over television yesterday.
		CNN was doing them.
		Very, very good interview.
		Wildguard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Great timing.
unidentified		This is Elizabeth in Vancouver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Elizabeth.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very well.
unidentified		I wanted to talk about, I wanted to refute Radio Free Oklahoma on the ARC, but I think I'll keep that for a minute and talk instead about the connection between the Chinese and the millennium.
		All right.
		But first maybe a little one-liner.
		If computers are the ultimate evil, then Bill Gates is the devil himself.
		I was going to say the Antichrist.
		That's what they're saying out here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they, really?
unidentified		Well, just on local radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you think about computers in general?
		Are they God's gift to mankind?
		Or are they something awful?
unidentified		The only software that counts is between your two ears.
		The rest is just machinery.
		I wanted to say something about the Chinese.
		Do you appreciate the fact that the Chinese do not have any concept of the end of the world and what kind of psychological advantage that culture will have over us because we're going to be embroiled, bogged down, in this kind of anticipating the end of the world malaise that happened in the year 1000 in Europe and is inevitably going to happen again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's going to end.
unidentified		I don't think it's going to end.
		I think you appreciate the psychological advantage that Chinese culture is going to have because they see time as an ever-cycling future, you know, cycling through the seasons.
		I mean, they're going to be up and producing, and we're going to be bogged down in Gordon Michael's scallion, about which I have a revelation, incidentally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		But I'd like to have you respond to that.
unidentified		I mean, what do you think we're going to do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think, yes, they would deal with it pragmatically.
		Absolutely.
		No question about it.
unidentified		And you are aware that in the year 1000 in Europe, Europe went crazy anticipating the return of Christ, and flagellants, flagellanti went through the street beating each other on the back in conga lines and with whips.
		Are you aware of that?
		No.
		Europe went crazy in the year 1000.
		You know, that's why I wanted people to know that this is the first year of the third millennium.
		But one thing about Michael, Gordon Michael Scallion, and this is a revelation that I'd like to share.
		This is very dangerous stuff.
		These millennial, millenistic, apocalyptic, Armageddon kind of scenarios are very dangerous in a quantum universe.
		If this were a Newtonian, deterministic universe where events were fairly fixed, it would be harmless.
		But we live in a quantum universe where the future is recreated at the microscopic, at the micro level, at every instant.
		And these messianic scenarios are very dangerous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nevertheless, and I don't necessarily disagree with you regarding the danger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think he's right.
unidentified		I think that he could be right and that we're participating in this.
		And sometime I'll call in about the quantum vacuum and our connection to God thereby.
		But I'd like to leave your listeners with another little quiz, one-liner, if you don't mind.
		All right.
		If we abandoned the bad math Christian calendar that I talked about last night with its missing year and retrieved our classical European calendar, what year would it be?
		Thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome a bunch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Postman calling from Memphis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Memphis, Tennessee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		How are you doing this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just spippy.
unidentified		I agree with you about the gallon commercial.
		Oh, you do.
		Listen, I have a question for you.
		You've seen the commercials for Windows 95, haven't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, you know, I've not, I mean, I've seen a lot of promotional stuff for it, but I don't think I've seen the official ad, whatever that is.
unidentified		Okay, well, you know that you use the Rolling Stone song.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, Bill Gates tried to sing it yesterday.
unidentified		Really?
		Yeah.
		Just a little comment about that song.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bill Gates should not try to sing for the same reasons that I do not.
unidentified		Oh, I didn't hear it, so I don't know.
unidentified		But there's a line out of that song that they don't, that it's about the point that they sing it, but they skip to another line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's You Make the Grown Man Cry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		Can you not relate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They referred to that last night on NBC.
unidentified		Oh, I didn't hear that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They did.
		Oh, yes, they did.
		You make the grown man cry.
		And they said, and indeed, Bill Gates is crying all the way to the bank.
unidentified		Oh, well, yeah.
unidentified		Let me ask you one last question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They estimate it'll yield about $3 billion for a Microsoft.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, wow.
unidentified		The Tuesday morning show that was great about the check.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the check, yes, uh-huh.
unidentified		There was a caller that came on the third hour.
		Yes.
		That's queer.
		It sounded like him, Bill Gates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sounded like, well, maybe it was Bill Gates.
		Who knows?
		All right, we've got a run.
		News coming up at the top of the hour.
		You're listening to the best in live overnight talk radio.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		Sweet.
		You'll feel nothing called, you gotta hold cap down the halo.
		If you like a car, I'll...
		You'll feel nothing called, you gotta hold cap down the halo.
		You'll feel nothing called, you gotta hold cap down the halo.
		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, everybody.
unidentified		Welcome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		If you are just joining us at this hour, that's too bad.
		We've had a couple of fun hours here, and you might call the station that carries this program and ask them to carry the beginning of it.
		Actually, it's five hours long.
		Begins at 11 o'clock Pacific time.
		And so we now enter the third hour.
		And it's just kind of an open line night as it is going to be tomorrow night.
		So, if you would like to call us, here we are.
		Talk radio at its best, its most unexpected, spontaneous, even at times weird.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good evening, Hard.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am okay.
unidentified		Great.
		You're doing pretty good.
		All these questions which you were asking, this recalling of the witness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean of Mark Furman?
unidentified		Yeah, well, you see, what I worried about there was first, if I can spend a minute with you.
		You see, tapes, tapes in the courtroom, is basically inadmissible because...
		Well, let me try to explain that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, sir, it is indeed admissible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Recordings made over the telephone without one's permission are inadmissible.
unidentified		Well, if there's special circumstances, the reason being that a tape could be modified.
		In other words, might be your voice, might not be your voice, might not let us sleep under hypnosis when you made it.
		You see, in special circumstances...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you add up the reaction of the defense, predictable, you know, this is chilling, it's awful, it's terrible, you would expect them to say that.
		But then if you listen to Marcia Clark and you look at the expression on her face, she knows that it's what the defense says it is.
		And then if you add on top of that the fact that Mark Fuhrman has now got himself a criminal lawyer, and that attorney is saying he will, in great likelihood, take the fifth when he takes the stand, I would say that would add up to a big problem for the prosecution.
		And with regard to admissibility, that judgment will be made on content, not any question of legality regarding whether it would be inadmissible because it was taped.
		No problem there.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello?
		Hello?
		Oh, I didn't expect to be on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, should I move on to another call or do you want to be on?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, sure.
		I'm Jerry from L.A. Hello, Jerry.
		Hi.
		You say you don't believe that there's a secret government?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If there is, let me put it this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If there is a secret government manipulating, you know, the hidden hand, manipulating our president and other presidents around the world, it's doing a lousy, lousy job.
unidentified		Well, I'll tell you what the secret government's name is.
unidentified		One of the arms of the secret government is called the octopus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the octopus, yeah.
		Well, you'd have to have a lot of hands because there's a lot of countries to control.
		Right?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Hey, you know, we're coming up on the age of Aquarius, and...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dawning of the Age of Aquarius, remember that?
unidentified		Well, actually, it's coming up.
unidentified		That's supposedly what we're...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pisces, the dawning of the Age of.
unidentified		You know, you know, I'm sorry, I'm a little nervous.
unidentified		You know, you know, with Watergate and White Water.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whitewater?
unidentified		Yeah, it's almost like there's almost a connection.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's water.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's water in both of them.
		White water, Watergate, and the octopus.
		I am a 34-degree octopus, sir, so bear that in mind next time you call me.
		First degree, first degree.
		First time online, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		Fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
		Pardon?
		Where are you?
unidentified		Aurora, Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okey-dokie.
unidentified		And is this Art Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, I had marked on my calendar, the 28th of August, that there was going to be a program on television.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so there she'll be on the Fox Network with the Roswell Autopsy Film.
unidentified		And what time will that be, do you think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		You don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Check your local listing.
unidentified		I did check it, and I couldn't see anything that looked familiar or like it might be that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe they didn't have an opportunity to get it in the TV listings.
		I don't know.
		You don't know whether it is.
		And so just start rolling a VCR and let it roll.
unidentified		Okay.
		And also, that lady that you were talking to about how cute the little girl was on the MCI commercial.
		Yeah, I think she needs to lighten up a little bit.
		She's so serious about her job.
		And I don't see anything wrong with saying those little girls are cute at all.
		And I know back when I was young.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know Crystal will hate it, but my comment was not with regard to her job performance.
unidentified		No, no.
unidentified		And I think that, oh, back when I was young, why, there were a lot of things like that that were flirting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know these days, though, ma'am, those are the things that make up lawsuits, you see.
unidentified		I know, I know.
		And it was quite a compliment to be flirted at.
		And it's too bad that we've lost that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We have lost that, and that's why you and I are going to die and leave the planet to the people who will sue each other for even staring at one another.
unidentified		I know.
		And there's, of course, a lot of girls and women, females that are kind of asking for it with these wonder bras and short skirts and all, and so they've got to expect some of this.
		But I call it flirting more than harassment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's a very good point that you make when you talk about the wonder bra.
		Now, I've never said a word about that, but I did see it on CNN.
		It claims it can make women into incredible-looking beings.
		And if women don't want to be regarded as sexual objects, then why would the wonder bra be selling like crazy?
unidentified		I know.
		I know.
		Like I say, I think asking for some attention or something, but flirting is what I call it, rather than harassment.
		And I think a lot of these cases that men are being sued and such are not really harassment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
		Yeah, there was a day when you could flirt.
		It didn't mean you pawed.
		It didn't mean that you French-kissed.
		It just meant that you flirted.
		But, you know, that, of course, today has become a subject for arbitration and courts and attorneys and just unbelievable.
		Sad, actually.
		Sad.
		So there you are.
		It's the present state of the world.
		And I don't care.
		I think she's cute as a button.
		The minute you say something like that, somebody calls you up and accuses you of being sexist or something.
		She is cute as a button.
		I'm talking about the little girl who peeks out from behind the computer in the MCI commercial and says, AT ⁇ T, are you there?
		Are you listening?
		You know, and then at the very end, she gives him this sort of in-your-ear smile that must drive AT ⁇ T execs absolutely bananas.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Radio Free Oklahoma.
		Actually, originally from Texas, but we're all the same to pretentious intellectuals.
		Say, Art, now you were saying last night that you didn't think Buchanan had a chance against Clinton.
		I disagree.
		I know.
		I mean, you know, they're going to go after, if Buchanan won the nomination, they're going to go after him.
		Well, you know, they were importing people from all over the country into Iowa.
		So Pat held his own, in my opinion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, I think it was 19%, wasn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a damn good showing.
unidentified		Right, and even on Meet the Press, one of the guys said that, you know, most of the people that voted for Buchanan were Iowans.
unidentified		So, you know, he held his own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, let me tell you, I could still get behind Pat Buchanan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		anyway he's the only one that i'm even flirting with getting behind and uh...
unidentified		the rest of them right now But you remember when I was calling him Benedict Gingrich for the crime bill, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember, yeah.
unidentified		And, you know, but Gingrich is, it's not only the crime bill and the assault weapon ban, but GATT and NAFTA.
unidentified		I know you were for NAFTA, but you said now that you would, you know, you change your stance on NAFTA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that doesn't mean that I would change my vote given the same conditions when NAFTA was passed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, because of the devaluation, we ought to get the hell out of NAFTA now.
unidentified		Right, but at the same time, Gingrich could have stopped the Mexican bailout.
unidentified		So, I mean, you really got to wonder where his heart really is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, sir, he could not have.
unidentified		Well, they could have done...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, well, he did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Gingrich could have tried to stop it, but the octopus would have put him 10 feet down.
unidentified		Probably, but he didn't even really make an attempt, did he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, it was going to be done, Gingrich, Dole, or anybody, over everybody's objections, and that is the way it was done, in fact.
		Thank you.
		And that doesn't condone it.
		That just says I know exactly how it was done.
		So do the rest of you.
		It was done by the president.
unidentified		Boom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Signature.
		Done.
		Done deal.
		Stupid, but done.
		Ineffective, but done.
		You don't hear much about it now.
		Mexico is still in terrible economic trouble.
		And our money did not rescue them.
		It was obvious at the time, and it's obvious now.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Art Bell, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reasonably well.
unidentified		I've got something for you on the menu of Food for Thighs.
		Yes.
		In regards to Gordon Scallion, obviously he's not the first person in the world, history of the world, that had the ability to do this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, there's Edgar Casey, another very famous person.
unidentified		Okay, if you can imagine Genghis Scallion from Upper Mongolia in prehistory explaining the geophysical problems in geography that he had no knowledge of and what they were saying to him.
unidentified		Two, in the light of Noah's Ark discovery, what do you think Noah called the quickity?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wet.
unidentified		And one more thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I got a book title for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call toll-free 1-800-618-8255.
unidentified		Or, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, book titles.
		No, book titles.
		I think I've decided on the book title.
		And it was given to me by a caller.
		Not quite.
		There was more to it than that, but.
		Book.
		This is an autobiography, right?
		That I'm writing.
		I should tell you I'm about done.
		The book, in all likelihood, will be out in late October or early November.
		It is going to be a blockbuster.
		I think you're going to, you know, everybody says that, hyping books, right?
		But it will be.
		And what should a book title do?
		In my estimation, it should be short and sweet.
		It should say what it is and give the person who will glance at it quickly an idea of what it's about.
		So I like the art of talk myself.
		And I keep getting suggestions, and you're welcome to send them by fax or any other way.
		I'd rather not have them on the air because it'll turn into something that I can't control.
		But the one I like is the art of talk.
		You know, it's short, it's simple, it's descriptive, and I have yet to run into anything that I like better.
		That doesn't mean that's what it's going to be.
		That simply means that it's going to probably be that, unless I run into something a lot better.
		It's hard to think of.
		You write the whole book and then you're still stopped trying to think of the title.
		Weird, huh?
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Charlie.
		Well, you see, you know, I've been listening to some of these right-wingers calling in, talking about how disappointed they are with the Republicans who are lined up against Clinton.
		And let me say something.
		It's not the Republicans who are lined up against Clinton.
		I think what it is, is that it's the Republican theme.
		As long as the Republicans have the same old, stuck-in-the-mud, old lines, it's not going to matter who they run.
		They're still going to lose.
		And I don't think, I mean, these guys who are running, you've got Lamar Alexander, you've got Graham.
		They're all conservatives.
		None of them are Kennedys, but who the hell is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At least they've got ideas.
		The Republican Party is the party of ideas, sir.
		That's what got them elected November 8th.
		They have carried through with an awful lot of what they said they were going to do, and so it's a matter of personalities.
unidentified		Actually, they haven't carried out with a lot of what they said they were going to do.
		Yes, they have.
		Well, name a couple of things.
		I mean, they started out with trying to get a couple of budget things through, but they basically haven't gotten a lot through.
		That's why you're basically going to see a log jam in October when Bill Clinton vetoes a lot of this stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well, I didn't say the president wouldn't veto it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said they have kept their promise, and they have.
unidentified		Well, that's what they did is they passed a lot of stuff in the House.
		Then, when it went to the Senate, it got all screwed around, which is exactly what a lot of Democrats were saying.
		But the Republicans are not a party of ideas.
		Sure, they are.
		Oh, come on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they are.
		Yes, they are.
		Sure, the worn-out, unworkable ideas are those of people just like you, liberals, disproven, discredited.
unidentified		Let's look at what the Republicans have done.
		All they do is they are against stuff.
		They're not for anything.
		They are against environmental protection.
		They are against health care.
		They are against providing grants for kids.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're just against your concept of those things.
unidentified		No, no, no, we're confused.
		Well, I think Ronald Reagan put it best.
		He said that government, what was that line?
		Government that governs least.
		And that's what they basically think.
		They don't want the government to do anything.
		And if the government doesn't do anything, they don't have any ideas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In many cases, that is exactly right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Government that governs least governs best.
unidentified		Well, I think it's simply called not being able to use government in any way and just sitting on their butts and giving money to the military and to the rich.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, if there's anybody in any ideology that promotes sitting on butts, it is yours.
unidentified		Well, I don't know about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It even sends out checks to insurance.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		You guys are the ones that want to give welfare to the cigarette companies that want to give welfare.
		You guys want to give welfare to the rich, and that's what it's all about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Well, when you give breaks to the rich, people with money, then you create jobs.
		Now, you choose to call that welfare, but for example, if somebody's able to sell something and not get raped by tax, then they take that money and reinvest it.
		And they're the ones who have the power to do that, create jobs.
		So you may call it welfare for the rich.
		I call it investing in the future for America and the creation of jobs for those people that you claim you want to represent.
		But in fact, your real constituency are the people sitting on their butts getting a check from people just like you every month.
		That's your real constituency.
		That's why you never really talk about welfare unless you talk about welfare for the rich, welfare for corporations.
		Want to talk about welfare.
		Don't want to talk about welfare for the people because those are the only people about you got left to vote for you.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is the Agile Independent out of Austin, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Sorry, I haven't called in in a while that I was detained.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Detained?
unidentified		Yeah, I don't want to go into that.
unidentified		I've come up, I've had a unique experience with gun control, and I've changed my mind about it and come up with a different idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't recall your original position.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was it originally?
unidentified		Basically yours.
		But I now believe, I'll just sum it up like this.
		A friend of mine was released from a mental hospital.
		His wife was afraid of him.
		She came to my house because they were both my friends.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I cooperated, and because I wouldn't say anything bad about him, I got to do a little time in the slammer.
unidentified		It's all worked itself out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you weren't going to tell us about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you did.
unidentified		Well, no, I'm not telling you his name or anything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't want it.
unidentified		Yeah, he wasn't well when he did it.
unidentified		He was my friend, and he's still my friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, one of the disqualifiers, sir, I've got to run because we were here at the bottom of the hour, for anybody having a firearm is mental instability.
		So, no, I don't want anybody who is mentally unstable to have a gun.
		Thank you very much.
		That only makes common sense, and I'm all for it.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's sending faxes hold up.
		my poor facts machine has had an internal hemorrhage and uh...
		i'm working on it during the breaks here probably get it going here in the next half hour but uh...
		it uh...
unidentified		poor little thing uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		just You have no idea how many faxes I get.
		So, hold up.
		I'll let you know.
		Actually, you can still send them.
		We'll go into memory in print as soon as I get it going.
unidentified		Oh, I got ink all over me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Ellen with Portland, KES.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		I'm just calling to tell everybody that that Roswell film on Monday night is going to be the Encounter's Hidden Truth Program.
unidentified		And they're calling it Alien Autopsy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what time does it come up?
unidentified		8 o'clock Pacific Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		8 o'clock Pacific Time.
unidentified		It may be a different time, you know, in the other time zones.
unidentified		I mean, they may have it a different time of the evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or it may be 8 o'clock in all time zones.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Except Rocky Mountain.
unidentified		It might be.
unidentified		I saw the rerun program, and I know for sure because they advertised it last Monday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Neither can I. How do you think they will handle it?
unidentified		In good taste, like they usually do.
		I'm sure they will.
		I've been watching our programs for over a year now, and I've been quite impressed with them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, that really is important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to get a fair, you know, it ought to almost just be a presentation, and here you all decide for yourselves.
unidentified		Right, and I want to tell you, those pictures did shock me.
		I get your newsletter.
		Ah.
		And I listen to all this talk, you know, about how they're going to look, but you're never prepared until you actually see them.
		I'm not even leery about just showing them to anybody, you know, that wants to see them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I've got a building curiosity, you know, about how America...
unidentified		There's going to be a lot of people, some people that will go out of their head, but there will be a lot of disbelievers, but there's going to be a lot of people like me.
		I've only been since last December that I've been open to this type of thing.
		I poo-pooed all of it before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		But I'm a thorough believer, a total believer now.
		I've even got an MD doctor that's become interested in your program and subscribes to Gordon Michael Stallion now.
		And he's definitely an MD, a scientist.
		And I think if people like him are becoming open, then a lot of people are.
		And he's going to be watching the program, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, it's a biggie.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		I would never make such a statement.
		I'm not an absolute believer.
		These photographs are going to, particularly the moving photographs, are going to shake up a lot of people, I believe.
		We'll see.
		Or maybe it's true that there's been so much done on this subject that our heads have been so filled with ETs and the idea of extraterrestrials and all the rest of it that there will not be much of an impact.
		But I tend to believe the other way.
		By the way, I'm going to be on KFYI, I think, just after 5 o'clock in the morning this morning, doing an interview, and I suspect they're going to be asking about that.
		And I am intrigued, and those of you that have been privy to our newsletter, I would be interested in your opinion of how you think the American public is going to react.
		So, by the way, while we're on the subject, the next, you've still got time to get subscribed before the next newsletter comes out, and it is going to have one whale of a spectacular photograph of Halebop, the comet.
		Very spectacular.
		It's going to have a photograph of my studio, the one from which I broadcast right now.
		And let me see, there's something else.
		What else are we putting in there?
unidentified		Oh, Max the Crystal Skull.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'll be in the next newsletter.
		Along with, and you know, I mention these photographs because I want you to see them, and they're in the newsletter.
		But there's so much more in the newsletter.
		It is a substantial publication, and the price is going to go up to $39.95.
		And I'm giving you fair, adequate warning right now.
		You can subscribe right now or renew at the price of $29.95 and save yourself $10.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, sir.
		You've got it backwards.
		You go ahead.
unidentified		All right, this is Joe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Joe, where are you?
unidentified		In Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Missouri.
unidentified		And I would admit that the little girl on MCI, she is very cute.
		But my favorite telephone commercial goes back one before the present ATT with the girl that you can't figure out what nationality she is.
		Black, Hispanic, Polynesian.
		Now, that is the cutest girl I've seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		do remember that as a matter of fact and you're right she was also very cute but right now the m_c_i_ girl is uh...
		And, you know, how does AT ⁇ T answer?
		I'm sure they're sitting in their boardrooms now, and the advertising agencies are scratching their heads trying to figure out how they answer that.
unidentified		Well, they better go back and get that other little girl.
unidentified		She was so cute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you fight cute with cute.
unidentified		Pardon me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, in other words, you fight cute with cute.
unidentified		Yes, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got your partner.
		All right, thanks.
		that's the view from missouri she is she just uh...
unidentified		uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		there's a girl in the i don't even know why i'm spending so much time on this but she has such a wholesome I'm sure AT ⁇ T thinks that, too cute.
		I bet it really boils their blood.
		I mean, her little smile at the end is so perfect.
		It's not too much of a smile.
		It's not too little of a smile.
		It's just a sort of a, we gotcha smile.
		Again, I wonder how many takes it took.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		This is Cogo, Escondido, California.
		Howdy.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing fine, sir.
unidentified		Well, we've got that comet into our computer now, and it plots it really nicely on the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is it something else or what?
unidentified		Well, we're going to get a picture of it next month from Mount Wilson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		that should be something.
unidentified		Well, see, we can lock on it, we can acquire it, and then track it, and then take a picture of it and bring it back here to our local high school.
unidentified		But what I was going to ask is, why don't you get a real comet expert on one of your shows, like Shoemaker, Dr. Shoemaker, or David Levy, who's worked a lot with comets?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've had them on Dreamland.
unidentified		Oh, they've been on Dreamland?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Oh, well, I think they ought to come back and explain what this thing is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, nobody really knows that well just yet.
		They're still trying to figure out whether she's been around before or not.
		They're not certain.
		They're still computing the trajectory, and I've heard estimates from 0.7 AU to 1.5 AU.
		They're still a little unsure.
		They don't know about the composition of it, how much rock, how much ice, all the rest of that.
		Whether it's 100 miles or 1,000 miles.
		Latest estimates say 100 miles.
		If it's 100 miles in diameter, it's still a really big comet.
unidentified		Yeah, it's more like a planetoid.
		Yeah.
		I'm glad it's not closer to Jupiter.
		You know, Jupiter could give it a nudge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's got gravitational influences to, and who knows whether they've calculated them all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how many times have you ever heard scientists say, one day one thing, and the next day, well, late studies and recent observations now show us that the following is true.
unidentified		Well, you know, those comets are very bad, too, because when they give off, when they outgast, that acts like a small thruster, and it can kick it one way or another, up or down, left or right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're going to scare people.
unidentified		I'm mostly worried about Jupiter.
unidentified		I'm glad to see it's pretty far away from Jupiter, but it's still under its influence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		All right, thank you.
		And it has to move through the asteroid belt, doesn't it?
		So there's going to be various pulls and tugs on it there as well.
		And, you know, everybody who's anybody is saying it's going to miss Earth.
		What do they know?
		I tend to think they're probably right, and the odds of it missing are much greater than of it hitting.
		But I just, I think the timing of it and the size of it and the location of it and all of that is very fascinating.
		And I guess that's all I'm going to say about it right now.
		You be sure and get our newsletter.
		You take a look at that thing.
		It's something.
		Against a star field, it's very impressive.
		And the photograph is going to come out very well.
		So, anyway, you want to get that newsletter.
		If you don't have our newsletter yet, I can't imagine why.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		KQMS trading, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello.
unidentified		Is this Art Bell?
		No.
		No, I'm a clone.
		You know, I don't think that Hillary should go to the Beijing thing either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because of?
unidentified		Well, because of the way they treat the women.
		That's exactly that.
		It's terrible.
		I mean, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can tell you one thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you were a Chinese girl, you'd be having a rough ride.
unidentified		Oh, are you kidding?
		I wouldn't be Chinese.
		I just wouldn't.
		I know, I would have a rough ride.
		I'd make a terrible Chinese woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you would have been drowned like a little puppy lonely.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		Uh-huh.
		Definitely.
		So, Arthur, why'd you want to talk to a witch?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		You know, I'll tell you the witch I want to talk to, okay?
		They're all white witches.
		You know, I'm a good witch.
		I'm a good witch.
		I want to talk to a witch who practices the black arts.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I just, I want, because I'm curious, I guess.
		For the reason I want to interview a lot of people who are strange and different, because I'm a curious person.
unidentified		They're not aliens.
		They're just strange humans.
		That was very funny.
		Listen, I need your advice.
		You know, I saved a baby kitty from the pound.
		And remember how you said that your cat was scared to death of yours?
		You ought to see my cat.
		You know, it's a big cat.
		He runs and hides under the bed and makes these noises that I have never heard come out of him before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, I know.
		So does mine.
		And also, I'm telling you, my big cat is so angry at me.
unidentified		Oh, does he have like attitude?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And attitude doesn't even do justice.
		You listen on the air.
		This is really something.
		I've been meaning to say something about this.
		Here we've got this new female lover of a cat.
		I mean, this cat loves all human beings.
		It's unbelievable.
		She comes up and grabs you and hugs you around the neck.
		I mean, she is that lovable.
		She even loves my big cat.
		She goes over and licks him, tries to be friends.
		He bites her.
		She goes away.
		But the worst of it is, and I mean the worst of it, is that my big cat, who has loved me, always been my friend, hates my guts now.
		I mean this cat hates my guts.
		It's like he's holding me responsible for bringing her into the house.
		And when I go over and pet him now, he makes noises like that, right?
		And then if I keep petting him, he will hiss at me.
		Now, he would be on my lap just like that any other time.
		Right?
		But now, do you know why he comes on my lap?
		Only so that he can sit there for one moment and then extend every rear claw he has and launch himself like the space shuttle from my lap.
		My legs like right now are like shredded wheat.
		I'm not kidding.
		It's to the point now where I know he's so angry at me, I won't let him get on my lap.
		I mean this cat is ticked off.
		And I can't understand why.
		Except that I brought this other cat into the house.
		I mean it wasn't, it was the both of us, my wife and I. We both brought him home, but he's angry at me.
		This is not light anger.
		This is a vendetta.
		This is, if I could scratch your eyes out, I'd do it.
		You're bigger, so I'm not.
		But I'll get you when I can.
		I mean, he is really angry at me.
		I don't know what to do about it.
unidentified		I...
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		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24, 1995.
		Music playing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the era.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, good evening, Mark.
		Is it the Batman in Seattle?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I wanted to run something by you and see what you thought about it.
		Okay, imagine taking two big plates of steel, very smooth, very smooth together, and rubbing them on top of each other.
		And then vibrating.
		I heard the earth vibrates at about 7 hertz.
		Is that proper?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very low, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		Now, I've heard the frequency has gone up in the last 100 years.
		It's now about 8 Hertz.
		And the higher the frequency, the easier it is to move these steel plates.
		So what I'm getting to is plate tectonics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		And I was wondering if you thought that had anything to do with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's an interesting theory, but, you know, I have no idea.
		I mean, I'm not sure what answer you expected.
		It's an interesting theory.
		And as good as anybody else's.
unidentified		Okay, one other thing.
		Yes.
		Back in the 70s, when I used to do drugs, and I don't do them anymore, we used to call the drugs sunshine, paradise, that type of thing.
		It's very amazing how it's changed.
		LSD.
		Yeah.
		Okay, thanks, Luther.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Yeah, you know, he's got a good point there.
		They were.
		Do you remember that?
		They were called Sunshine.
		Remember, what was it, Orange Barrels?
		Remember little orange barrels, barrels of sunshine?
		Anybody remember those?
		And today they call them by names like Suicide and somewhere I've got all of the names here.
		They're awful, this new heroin they're selling.
		Body bag.
		Now, there's a good product, name.
		Something you want to ingest right away.
		Give me a little body bag.
		Well, it's selling like crazy, I'm sorry to say.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing.
unidentified		Good.
		You know, I got a couple things, but the Comet.
		I keep hearing you guys talking about the Comet.
		I read a book.
		It's about, no, you can find it in the Catholic bookstore.
		It's called The Three Days of Darkness.
		It's written by a priest.
		Yes.
		And it's like kind of a prophecy thing or something.
		I can't even remember now.
		I read it a couple years ago.
		But anyway, it says we'll be in darkness for 72 hours.
		And people that are, you know, well, let me just tell you this.
		We could be knocked out of our orbit, you know, from with that comet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'd be bad.
unidentified		Yeah, but I mean, we wouldn't be destroying.
		We'd just be knocked out of our orbit.
		We'd be in darkness.
		And then maybe somehow we get back on orbit or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, not that.
unidentified		Yeah.
		But anyway, that's another theory on the comet.
		It's not going to be a fatal thing.
		But, you know, you were talking about...
		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Would it actually be fatal?
unidentified		I mean, would we crash somewhere?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would just see the universe moving around.
		Give you a rush is in room temperature for all of us, ma'am.
		Yes.
		Being knocked out of orbit would be very bad.
		The ecology on Earth that supports mankind, the temperatures, the weather, the whole shebang here, is dependent on our distance from the sun.
		Now, should that be changed radically, we would either boil or freeze, one of the two.
		But it would not take a great many degrees of change to ascend us all to room temperature, believe me.
		Not to mention the impact of anything large enough to actually knock us out of orbit.
		No, that would not be good, man.
		Not good.
		Not good.
		You're on the air, coast to coast, A.M. with Art Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you?
unidentified		Charleston, Southgate.
		All right.
		I heard on the news, did you hear about the fire in the sky?
		They thought all the things were Michigan.
		They're looking pressed in New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean these occurred tonight?
unidentified		Tonight.
unidentified		I think they said they thought it was like a meteor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		I hadn't heard that.
unidentified		I just heard it in the news at 4 Eastern.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		4 Eastern.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that had been last hour then.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'd not heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They believe it was an asteroid or a meteor.
unidentified		Right, that's what the newscaster said.
unidentified		They said perhaps they thought it was a meteor, but I didn't know at this point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we all know better than that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're pods, sir.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		That's what I was thinking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pods, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pods.
unidentified		remember uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		what was it the big movie about i can never Thank you, where the pods came down and they jumped on your face and stuff.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		That sounds a lot more believable to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I got one for you.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know the fires in Long Island?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably where it landed.
unidentified		I think so.
unidentified		They said it landed in New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, see?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
unidentified		You got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm getting so good at conspiracies and theories about things that I can pop them out one after another.
unidentified		I like the thing about the octopus and the water and everything.
unidentified		It all just tied right together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You see, it's the first time I've heard of the octopus government, but I like it because, you know, it's kind of got image.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you could almost see, you could see a podium where the great seal of the octopus would be.
unidentified		Yeah, it would be great.
		A great symbol, you know.
		And I love the water gate and all.
		That just all just fit perfectly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are people who take me constantly the wrong way.
		You've got to listen to me.
		I've got a very dry, kind of weird sense of humor.
		I appreciate your call.
unidentified		Thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're coming up on the hour, and I'm going to go see.
		I'm going to take another stab at my facts machine.
		You're listening to the best in live overnight spontaneous talk radio from Octopus Central.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24, 1995.
		Coast to Coast AM from August 24, 1995.
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		Coast to Coast AM from August 24, 1995.
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		You are listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24th, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Open Line Unscreened Talk Radio.
		I have very mixed feelings about machines.
		Maybe somebody was right when they were talking about it being from the devil.
		I'll have a new attitude in the morning, I'm sure.
		Or a new machine.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, Dart.
unidentified		I was wanting to maybe speak to you about the O.J. Simpson trial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, I believe if everything goes the way the Los Angeles County prosecution has in the past, I believe they're going to have maybe a loss on their hands this time.
		The police department also, of course, Willie Williams with his tape message to all the police officers.
		But you got to think, the Menendez brothers, what happened?
		They have to retry them.
		Yep.
		They have to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they're going to get an opportunity to retry OJ because I think it's going to be not guilty.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll bet you.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		So how would we rate the LA prosecution team as far as altogether?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I rate them actually rather high.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing wrong with the prosecution team.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In my opinion, they've been ambushed.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, see, the way I was thinking was maybe they were poor, but I'm looking at it from across the country as far as on TV and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, sir, again, let me say again, they're not poor.
		The prosecution is not poor.
		Much as I may have complained at times about Marsh Clark's persona, she's been very effective.
		You listen to me very carefully when I say this.
		I don't know that I feel that way about Chris Darden, but even he is pretty good at what he does.
		Marsh Clark's very good at what she does.
		And if this case is lost, I'm not going to blame it on Marsha Clark.
		I'm telling you right now, it's not going to be Marsha Clark's fault.
		It's going to be Mark Fuhrman's fault, in my opinion.
		If Mark Fuhrman lied, that's the case.
		Clark's got one avenue she can go down, the one I talked about a little while ago, and that is going after Fuhrman just the way the defense is, and then backtracking and saying, but look, we should have a guilty verdict here based on the evidence.
		Even take away what Fuhrman testified to and disregard it.
		If you believe the man is a racist, if you believe the man as a result of hearing these tapes, is any of this, then fine, disregard what he said and simply look objectively at the rest of the evidence.
		Then they've got a chance, not a good one, but a chance.
		And I bet that's exactly the tactic they will use.
		You will see one damn angry Marsha Clark when Furman's back on the stand if that evidence is damning.
		And she'll have a right to be angry because her case is going down the old tuberino.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
		Hello.
		How are you doing?
		Okay.
		Here's just a little speculation for you or something just to throw at you.
		Yes.
		What if O.J. Finson team bought off Mark Furman, they knew about the tapes before the whole thing and paid him to lie on the stand?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then that would be a capital offense.
		Since this is a capital crime, that would be a capital offense, and so I don't believe it for a second.
		In other words, sir, they could get capital punishment for doing something like that.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		Uh-huh.
		Okay.
		Did you get a map today?
		Did you get a map back to you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, I did.
unidentified		With two marks on it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's a Washington State map.
unidentified		And I'll tell you that it was seen by both times by five people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And I just thought you'd like to know about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What does it mean?
unidentified		Well, there's two marks on the map.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do they mean?
unidentified		Well, they're two UFO sightings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Oh, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I see.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		Yeah, there's a whole lot of sightings going on up in the Northwest.
		Bunch of sightings.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		This is Sufa, South Dakota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KSOO, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And I wanted to, I've been trying to phone you for so long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you got in.
unidentified		Yeah, because this is the first time I've phoned anyone since Alan Berg was on.
unidentified		Oh, and that's been a long time ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And you had mentioned one time about whether, and it sounds like you were kind of questioning whether that could possibly be, that they could control it.
		But I remember years ago, and that's how come I had phoned Alan Berg, was because in the Science Digester, Science Mechanics, and they had a thing where Tesla had suggested that they might be able to control it with some type of atmospheric wall.
		So I was wondering if you knew about that, because it sounded like you kind of questioned that they would be able to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I still do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am aware of that, and very much I've looked at Tesla technology.
unidentified		Yeah, I wondered if you're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen it demonstrated to work?
unidentified		Pardon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I say, have you seen it demonstrated to work?
unidentified		No.
		Nope.
		I just read about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, so then you should, what I'm saying is you should doubt it too until you know.
unidentified		Yeah, that's true.
		That is true.
		Then one of the other things I was wondering on these circles, crop circles, I wonder if anybody's ever related them to the petroglyphs.
		So many of them look like some of the petroglyphs that I've seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they do.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'll tell you something else they look like.
		Thank you for the call.
		Somebody sent me the dog on his thing, and I'd love to have you call me, whoever sent that.
		It's in glass.
		It's in a glass tube.
		And I would say it's about 15 inches long.
		And that's just a guess.
		It might be 12, 13.
		Inside the glass tube, there is a white strip with the symbols on it that were allegedly taken from the debris at the Roswell crash.
		You know what they look like?
		They look like Petroclus.
		Petrocliffs.
		Now I'm not even saying it properly.
		They look like those writings on rock of old.
		I can never say that word properly.
unidentified		Petroclus, is that correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And there's just something hauntingly familiar about it.
		Maybe you'll get to see it.
		My understanding is they may show that on the 28th when they show the Roswell film.
		Don't miss that.
		Don't forget the 28th.
		We understand 8 o'clock.
		Check your local listings Monday night, the 28th.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi there.
		I sure would like to get my hands on one of those tiny purplish I-beams from the Roswell thing.
		Is that what you got, or did you just get a strip of paper in the class?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's not paper, and it's in liquid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of strange.
unidentified		It's in liquid?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		So the person that sent it to you put it in that thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no way of knowing that.
unidentified		Oh, you mean it could have come that way from the craft?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, I have no idea what I have here.
		I'm just telling, I've described it to you.
		It's in a glass tube sealed.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And there's liquid in there, and there is a white something.
		It's obviously not paper, liquid.
		It's a solid material of some sort.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		I was just wondering if you had any idea where the average person out here could get a hold of information about the archaeology going on at the Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will bring you what there is to bring as it comes to me.
		You keep listening to this program.
		I've got access to just about every information source you can imagine.
unidentified		Great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they're doing the dig now.
unidentified		I love it, love it.
unidentified		But they've known about this for some time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They have, but conditions have never been right and they've never been ready.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now they are.
unidentified		Turkish government wouldn't let this, I don't know, several different people go up there.
		At the turn of the century, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, a young guy named George Hagopian, I think his name was, was led by his uncle up the mountain Ararat there.
		I think it's called Mount Nizir in Sumerian.
		Led up the mountain to go on to this park.
		And he climbed on top and saw these, well, I don't recall now whether there was a big hatch in the top and some little slits along the top edge.
		Anyway, there have been reports over the years that it was broken in half and half of it fell down the mountain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I've seen the satellite imagery and it appears to be intact.
unidentified		I wanted to mention one other thing about your fax.
		Gee, why are you using, what do you call it, inkjet?
		Why don't you use a thermal fax?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No ain't.
		Well, that's right, but because of what I'm doing, I want plain paper.
		I'm using plain paper.
unidentified		Does it have a feeder that just puts one sheet in at a time for you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Okay, one last point.
		You can accept this or not.
		Art and soul.
		Yeah, have a nice night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll just try art and soul.
		Art and soul.
		But see, that doesn't say it the way the art of talk does.
		What does the art of talk do?
		It's, first of all, it's a great devil, isn't it?
		The art of talk.
		The art, as in Bell of Talk.
		It gives my name, and it says what I do.
		All in one simple, easy to understand.
		I just like the art of talk.
		Now, the art of soul is all right, but it doesn't as directly specifically say what it is I do.
		Maybe it suggests what I have, and I hope I have one, but not what I do here, and that's what the book is about.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues courtesy of Premier Networks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Jim in Oregon City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim.
		How are you?
		Fine.
unidentified		That's good.
unidentified		I've been trying to reach you for some time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you got through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
unidentified		There's a little problem, apparently, with the modulation when you're talking with people on the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		I was wondering, nobody has mentioned it before.
unidentified		Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting it in the car radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are you getting?
unidentified		It's a ringing sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sometimes actually I hear that on you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't hear it on a lot of other people, but I am hearing it on you.
unidentified		Hmm.
unidentified		I get it on the Satellite 700 that I got from the C-Crane Company as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because it's probably there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What radio station are you listening to?
unidentified		KX KYX?
		KEX?
		KEX.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Portland?
		Well, there's...
		And I do hear a little bit on you right now, kind of a very hard-to-describe sort of after sound.
		Is that what you're hearing?
unidentified		That's what I'm hearing, but when I'm not using the phone, but just listening to the radio, I get it when someone is calling you, and every word that they modulate, you know, has that after ring to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's interesting, and I appreciate the comment.
		Now, let me pick up another line.
		Hi there, West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		This is Farron, the Atheist, in Fairhaven.
unidentified		I can't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fairhaven, where is that?
unidentified		Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir, Mr. Atheist, you're going to have to speak up good and loud because you're aware.
unidentified		Well, I should because I have something very important to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, go ahead.
unidentified		It's been said before about 120 years ago and several times since then, but it's time to say it again because it's finally becoming philosophically true.
unidentified		That is, God is dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You believe that?
unidentified		I look around and I see and I smell the decomposition of the deity.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not me.
unidentified		Not you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
		I think you're making an awfully gigantic leap there based on the performance of mankind or your disappointment at the deity and not stopping what's going on and you're disregarding the concept of free will.
		So I don't think God is dead, no.
unidentified		Well, cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, and besides, an atheist wouldn't say God is dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An atheist would say there never was one.
unidentified		Well, it's meant somewhat poetically, not to be taken literally.
unidentified		Nothing in the realm of religion can be taken literatum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe we could just call you a creationist in mourning.
unidentified		A recovering Sunday school student.
		Really?
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, remember, sir, there's a great circle.
		And you're just in part of the travel right now.
		You'll come back.
		West of the Rockies or on the air?
unidentified		Yeah, this is Dean from Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dean.
unidentified		How are you doing tonight?
		Okay.
		I'm glad for that.
		You know how everybody's talking about the end of the world?
		And you call it the quickening.
		And I see it more as there's more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to call it a lot of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even saying the quickening is leading to the end of the world.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But something's coming.
unidentified		Well, yeah, but I also see it as just there's so much.
		Everybody's got a camcorder, it seems.
		And the information age, you know, we're just coming to birth on the information age.
		And it's just an overflood of it.
		They've always been happening.
		It's always been there.
		Maybe different from the weather.
		I mean, that's different.
		But like on the killings and stuff, maybe they, just because of population densities, and it's been going on, it just hasn't been reported as intensely.
		And not many people have been listening to the news as much back 30, 40 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		I don't think 34 years 30 or 40 years ago we had daily accounts of people being pushed off bridges, children throwing children out of high rises, crack moms throwing their children out of windows, and dads gluing eyelids shut and five-year-old girls.
		I could go on and on and on.
		I'm telling you, it is just my observation.
		Everybody keeps asking me about the quickening.
		I did an interview yesterday in Illinois.
		Sterling, Illinois, I might add.
		And that was one of the main questions about the quickening.
		And everybody out there can either think that I'm full of it, if you wish, that's fine, or accept it as simply a judgment of somebody who's been watching the news very carefully for a lot of years now, and I have.
		As simply an observation of fact, I do not say where it's going, what it is, or what it's from.
		Telling you it is happening.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Morning, sir.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		Uh, K-Haw Radio over here in Denver is picking you up on the 28th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I knew I know that.
unidentified		Okay.
		Because I'm on K-Talk right now.
		Uh-huh.
		Say, Art, have you heard the Mutual UFO Network?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh, of course.
unidentified		Okay.
		They're running a trip over here to Roswell on the 9th of September.
		To Roswell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And they're supposed to have all the four caskets over there on display.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All four caskets.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The original, supposedly?
unidentified		The original four caskets there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Because the guy that, well, there's a farmer out there that all the debris was laid out there over a mile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And a sheep would not cross over the metal there.
unidentified		It was on the path of the, you know, flight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think sheep will cross cattle guards either, will they?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Anyway, it was in the newspaper here at Denver.
		Uh-huh.
		And it's a pretty nice article.
		But it seems like White Sands Missile Range ordered four caskets.
		And as soon as they found those people who overwhelmed the word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what the story is.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		And they're supposed to have them on display over there on the 28th of this month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would be something to see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And maybe after the broadcast on the 28th, why, a lot more people are going to want to see it, wouldn't you think?
unidentified		I would think so.
		But the trip is not too bad.
		It's $375 for Jam Room with kicks loads of everything.
		We're going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to go, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See the caskets?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take photos?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Not really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		No, I'll see them in your newsletter.
unidentified		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everything like that eventually ends up in my newsletter.
		All right, sir.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		And have a wonderful morning.
		I'm going to go fight with that machine one more time.
		As for everybody else, they will take breaks.
		A deep Ito judge, a judge, Ito breath, and we'll be right back.
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		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		I hear the drums echoing tonight.
		She is only whispers of some quiet conversation.
		She's coming in 1235.
		The moon that wings reflect the stars that guide the taught salvation.
		The moon that wings reflect the stars and the stars.
		The moon that wings reflect the stars.
		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell somewhere in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Howard, how you doing?
		Okay.
		Okay, I got several quick things I'd like to talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay, you having problems with a fax machine.
unidentified		I thought you advertised one of those Bob Crane fax machines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I do.
		This is also a Bob Crane fax machine.
		It simply happens to be plain paper fax, and we advertise that too, by the way.
unidentified		Well, I just got my catalog from him, and I've got the gold roses.
unidentified		By the way, this is Alan from...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll integrate, as a matter of fact, with your computer.
unidentified		So are you saying you're ready to upgrade?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've had this fax machine online now for about a year and a half.
		And I'll let somebody out there do the math, but I get on average 200 to 300 faxes a night, every night, and that's over a year and a half.
		So somebody out there do the math, and we'll find out how many faxes is.
		I think that if it works at all anymore, it's a testimonial.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay, security-wise, I heard you say I've been running in and out by the radio, and I heard you say Do the wild thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's 702-727-1295.
unidentified		You said something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you heard incorrectly, sir.
unidentified		Okay, so there's no danger to you?
		No.
		Okay, that's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		there's lots of people out there who hate my guts uh...
		i don't understand why but And that's a realistic estimate.
		We're on about 204 affiliates.
		About 8 million people.
		If only one 100th of a percent of the people hate my guts, that's still a fair number of people.
		You know what I'm saying?
unidentified		Oh, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I have means to protect myself, good means.
unidentified		Oh, I'm glad of that.
		And I'm staying up all night listening to you, and my wife goes to sleep every night.
		Does your wife keep any sort of hours to match your schedule, or do you...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At the moment, she's thanks for the call.
		She's sleeping very soundly.
		Many times she stays up and listens to the program, makes it say halfway through, or even all the way through.
		And because of the nature of the work that I do and the hours that I keep, it is all very erratic.
		Sometimes I will sleep a little bit in the morning and times not.
		Sometimes I will sleep at 1 or 2 in the afternoon, or sometimes I get barely any sleep at all.
		It's not a healthy sleep schedule.
		There's no question about it.
		I do not have a healthy sleep schedule.
		And it is because of events.
		I'm driven to monitor events, and the O.J. Simpson trial has disrupted my life now for a long time.
		And I, for one, will be very glad from a life point of view when it's over so that I can get a little bit of sleep.
		I'm magnetically drawn to it.
		I know that you can watch the little 30-minute summaries they give or we're giving on CNN every night.
		But it's not enough.
		I am fascinated enough with it, drawn to it enough, that I make it a point to get a little nap so I can get up to watch the O.J. Simpson trial until my eyes can't stand it anymore, and then I drop back off to sleep again.
		So that's typical, and my wife sort of mirrors that.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Good morning, Art.
		How are you this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Did you receive that picture of the kitty that was transported and all that way in that crate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um, no.
unidentified		Well, I sent it about over a week ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure I've got it.
unidentified		Well, I'm sure you did.
unidentified		Is your mother on Long Island?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, she is.
unidentified		Well, they're sure having a horrible time there.
unidentified		Did you find out any more about where Versuvius and Atna were?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, where the gentleman suggested they were, but he talked of two islands, as I told the man, to the north and south of Martinique.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you listened.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Well, I didn't hear that because I, you know, we're off the air in Kansas City now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		No.
		And I asked about Shadow the last time, and you told me to listen on the air, and of course you were gone.
		Oh.
		So I didn't hear it on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing do is call me before we just went off the air in Kansas City, what, 10 minutes ago or something?
unidentified		I know, but I dial you and dial you and dial you, and I never can get in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Shadow's fine.
		My big cat is really angry at me.
		Uh-uh.
		I mean, it's like a vendetta.
		It's like he jumps up on my lap so he can scratch when he jumps off.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's real anger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's cat anger.
unidentified		Oh, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when I pet him, he sort of growls at me.
unidentified		He'll get even with you, don't worry.
		Well, you have a good one.
		Thank you.
		You're making me an insomniac.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sorry.
		I guess.
		Thank you.
		Never know what to say to that.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm hooking you to this show, but I'm really not, because we're trying to get people to listen.
		I mean, that's what we do here.
		So, you know, the daytime hours are cool to sleep in anyway.
		Who needs it?
		I like the night.
		I'm invigorated by the nighttime.
		I always have been.
		I would not be the same person during the day.
		In fact, I'm not.
		During the day, I am sort of different, is the only way I can put it.
		When I've expended all the energy on this program that I love doing so much, during the day, I'm sort of very quiet.
		Different kind of person.
		Now, there will be an exception to that this morning when I get off the air.
		This machine and I are going to have a serious, serious discussion.
		Somebody do the math for me.
		That's about right.
		Two to three hundred.
		Let's do an average of 200 faxes, all right?
		Five days a week, that's a thousand faxes a week.
		Times, that's 52,000 faxes a year, right?
		Times, I'm going to say almost two years.
		That's 104,000 faxes.
		That's 104,000 faxes.
		God's a lot.
		And I'll bet you I managed to fix it.
		I'll bet you.
		It's just a little ink jam somewhere.
		I'll figure it out.
		104,000 faxes.
		Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is a testimonial.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Carson, California, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Carson, California.
unidentified		Well, believe me, I have worn my finger to the bone on the redial button on my horrible phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you made it through.
unidentified		You know, I think the times my phone sounds horrible are the times you're actually hearing that ringing sound in your ear on the other end.
unidentified		Because sometimes some callers have that sound coming over the phone line to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It depends on the connection.
unidentified		Yeah, it does.
unidentified		Sometimes your phone ring sounds like a local ring, and other times it sounds like it's far away, like halfway across the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's because it is.
		And the routing of phone calls.
		But I will say this, of your phone.
		No matter how it's routed, it sounds terrible.
unidentified		Well, thanks, Sart.
		You are.
		Anyway, am I understandable or are I much on your end?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand you, yes.
unidentified		Good, good.
		I'm glad you understand the I think it sounds terrible too, but the receiver part sounds good.
		Anyway, I was wondering about the Monday night thing.
		What time is it going to be on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		8 o'clock, specifically.
unidentified		8 o'clock?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what the lady said, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, I see.
unidentified		Well, anyway, as far as the Gard Michael Scallion tape that you were playing the other night, is how far away is Martinique from Montserrat?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Not tremendously far.
		I mean, it's in the same Caribbean area.
unidentified		Well, anyway, on the BBC, I tuned away about 1.30.
		They have the Science and Action program on my satellite, and I was able to pick that up on a local station here.
		Yes.
		And you might want to listen to that later on this week because they have this story about Darwin playing the piano to earthworms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Darwin what?
unidentified		Charles Darwin played the piano to earthworms 100 years ago to test how they reacted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how did they react?
unidentified		Well, when he played the piano and they were on a table away from the piano, they had no reaction at all.
		But when he put the container they were in on top of the piano and played it, they reacted.
		They went into their burrows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In that case, Darwin probably should have concluded they were reacting to the vibration and not the actual sound.
unidentified		Well, that's what they said on the program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, there you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I knew that, and I didn't even have to watch the show.
unidentified		Well, they have some other interesting stories about a factor that the body produces that may actually help AIDS patients live with this virus for the rest of their life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard of that, as a matter of fact.
		And they're also, thank you, doing research on a bunch of prostitutes in Africa who should have AIDS and do not have AIDS.
		And the answer to AIDS may well lie with them.
		No pun intended.
		When you have somebody apparently immune to a disease that kills everybody else, ultimately, you've got some serious investigation to do.
		And so they're looking into that now.
		and we'll see what they have to say.
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		At this point, I'm not happy with the direction that government is taking us.
		I'm happy with the fact that Americans are beginning to wake up and stand up and do what they have to do and shout and scream and blog.
		And I think that's critical.
		And I think that's what's going to save the Republic.
		I think in the long run, as we go through all this stuff, it's the people who will save us and our country will remain strong.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 24th, 1995.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Call from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You know, about that guy who called it the Age of Aquarius and all that water stuff?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		I think he's all wet.
		Also, Charlie called about the Republicans having no good ideas.
		But you notice the only ideas that he talked about were ideas that involve an activist government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The only people that have been having ideas, in my estimation, are the Republicans.
		That's right.
		The Democrats, if they fail, are going to fail precisely because they have no new ideas.
unidentified		Well, they have some ideas, but they all involve the government being more active and taking more of a role in society.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, pandering to the only constituency they've got left, the people utterly dependent on the government.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Yeah.
		All right.
		Thanks, Eric.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, right.
		It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
		They are bereft of ideas.
		When I say ideas, I mean new ideas.
		America, anybody can see it.
		We've got to change.
		The direction we're going in is not good.
		We must change.
		I think people on both sides of the aisle know that we must change.
		Well, in what way?
		Do you want to get deeper in debt?
		I don't think so.
		That threatens our very existence now.
		Well, what got us into debt?
		Well, the policies that we've had for a long time.
		Liberal policies.
		So what are you going to do?
		Expand those ideas and the government and the money we spend?
		Well, that's going to take us down a sure road, huh?
		So the only people with viable real ideas, serious ideas right now, are the Republicans.
		But remember, Bill Clinton is really good at taking somebody's idea and calling it his own.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How are you doing?
unidentified		I'm just trying to turn off my radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you.
unidentified		This is Sue from St. Louis.
unidentified		I didn't think I'd get in any more fools.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you made it, Sue.
unidentified		Okay, Republicans have one idea.
unidentified		Give every single thing to the rich.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's just not true.
unidentified		And then all the other ideas follow through for the rest of the people.
		And those are the liberal ideas.
		Anyway, do you use up your ink real fast?
		Because we have an inkjet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do I use it up real fast?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it takes quite a while, I would say.
unidentified		We have these little cartridges that go in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		We have Taggart Delph.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These little cartridges get used up quickly.
unidentified		And we put installed 95.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and?
unidentified		Well, there was like 19 hours of hideous screaming for my son.
		And then he sort of staggered to his bed just a little while ago.
		And I said, well, what should I tell art?
		And he said, you know, it's evil.
		Windows 95 is evil.
		Just like what you were saying earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't say Windows 95 is evil.
unidentified		Well, no, you said that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was saying there was a guy on CNN who was saying that computers and the whole trip, the whole information age is evil.
unidentified		Well, you know, you're not going to have any kind of Windows.
unidentified		Well, I don't know what you'll end up with, but it really takes over the whole computer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, it's a new operating system.
unidentified		Yeah, and I don't know.
		We lost a lot of our things originally, but I think you got them back.
		But it's pretty scary to go through it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, I know.
unidentified		I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
unidentified		I think we were better off the way it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now you see why I'm sitting back.
unidentified		I know.
		But I want you.
		I was hoping you'd just do it over the air.
		You know, go through all the It would really be boring, actually.
		Oh, no, not to me.
		It wouldn't be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You just enjoy, see one person has pain and then they Oh, my God.
unidentified		You know, just be really neat.
unidentified		You know, because, well, we just went through it, so I mean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you don't want to hear somebody screaming and yelling on the radio.
		Thank you very much, Sue.
		No.
		No, that's a private moment between a man and his computer.
		Excuse me, Sue.
		Well, even in your case, it was your brother, you said.
unidentified		Computers become...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Dr. Democrat.
		Ah.
		Well, good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		The problem with the Republicans is they have no leader.
unidentified		The leader they had, Newt Gingrich, has been rejected by the American people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he hasn't.
unidentified		Certainly has.
		He's got an approval rating of 30%.
		I don't know what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's...
		I'll tell you I still say he's the man could be Phil Quinton.
		You know, you're too...
unidentified		He's too radical.
		He's intelligent, but his ideas, his philosophy is too far right.
		And he's way out of the mainstream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he isn't.
unidentified		And that's why he can't get elected.
		The people know what he stands for.
		I mean, he pioneered the contract.
		And the guy who pioneered the contract has an approval rating of 30%.
		Something's wrong.
		I mean, people don't like him.
		And so it's either his philosophy or it's his personality.
		And I think it's a little bit of both.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think that the congressional rating for the Democrat Congress before we changed it around was even lower than that?
unidentified		Well, because people are going to complain about the establishment.
		I don't care who's in there.
		Right now, the people don't like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then apply that same philosophy to Newt Gingrichen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so there you are.
unidentified		Well, there you are.
		But anyhow, how about that foreign diplomacy in China by Bill Clinton bringing Henry Wu back home?
		Wasn't that fantastic?
		This guy has brought Bobby Hall from North Korea.
		He got the two men out of Iraq, and now Henry Wu.
		So Americans don't have to worry about traveling all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If anybody got Harry Wu out, it's Mrs. Clinton.
unidentified		Well, she might have had something to do with it.
		And you know what?
		She's going to go to China, I bet.
		And you conservatives don't have anything to complain about now.
		Because before you were trying to use the excuse that Henry Wu was in prison over there, so she couldn't go.
		Now what are you guys going to say?
		I mean, this woman's conference is going to be a humdinger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess I would say that a conference on women's rights in China is a joke.
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		There's going to be about 40,000 women, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a joke, Doc.
		You know, you go to China and find out for yourself, Doc.
		There are no women's rights in China.
unidentified		But anyhow, one last thing, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		but I mean, does that mean anything to you?
unidentified		Not to me, but...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't bother you, I guess, huh?
unidentified		Well, they didn't pick China as a location.
		That was done before.
		But anyhow, Clinton has been so good to radio talk, Art.
		He's really helped the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now there, you have said a true thing, and finally you hit upon something.
		Four more years of Bill Clinton for America might be tragic, but for talk radio, it would be wonderful.
		There's absolutely no question about it.
		Bill Clinton is consistently doing things that are just perfect fodder for talk radio.
		So if you want to see more talk radio and you want to see it blossom and bloom, then I guess you would vote for four more years of Bill Clinton.
		Frankly, I think talk radio will survive him and America will survive Bill Clinton.
		Have a good morning.

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