Art Bell’s Open Lines in August 1995 dissects societal "quickening"—rising chaos from Detroit’s 1995 bridge-pushing case (Aletha Word, 33), where 30+ onlookers cheered her death, to O.J. Simpson’s trial, where Dr. Henry Lee’s testimony exposed prosecutorial inconsistencies amid LAPD racial scrutiny. Callers debate moral decay, from Seattle’s Space Needle painted like Wheel of Fortune (confirmed but dismissed as absurd) to Texas billionaire J. Howard Marshall’s controversial marriage and estate manipulation. The episode ties extreme crimes—teen cat-hanging in Queen Anne Hill, a 16-year-old killing his parents—to broader fears of civilization’s unraveling, questioning whether humanity would collapse into madness or cohesion under existential threats like comets or aliens, leaving Bell’s skepticism intact despite fringe theories. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to another edition of the best in live overnight talk radio, the largest as well, where you never know what is going to happen, where I never know what is going to happen.
It's going to be a quickening time, I can tell you.
The already busy Atlantic hurricane season got even busier Tuesday.
Tropical storms get this one, Umberito.
And two new tropical depressions, I said two new ones, are brewing in the Atlantic.
The National Hurricane Center says Umberto, with winds near 65 miles an hour, will probably turn into a hurricane Wednesday.
That storm off the coast of the Cape Verde Islands in the western Atlantic, about 1,100 miles east of Umberto, an unnamed tropical depression has formed east of the Lesser Antilles.
Forecasters expect that depression to strengthen, possibly becoming a tropical storm named Iris by Wednesday.
Another tropical depression is swirling off the Andros Islands in the Bahamas.
Forecasters say it could dump heavy rains on southern Florida.
Now, I told you it was going to be a big, so did a lot of people told you the hurricane season was going to be fierce this year.
And so far they're right on the money.
And it's just beginning.
I mean, this is the opening chorus, folks, of a lot.
Well, I knew about this story yesterday, but I really didn't want to comment on it until today.
Because I wanted to be sure I had the details correctly.
And they were a little unsure yesterday, but they're not unsure today.
It began with a late-night traffic accident in Detroit.
And it ended incredibly with a woman jumping to her death from a bridge over the Detroit River.
While dozens, now get this, dozens of people stood by and hooted and hollered and cheered.
Now, it was about 3 o'clock in the morning, as I said, on a bridge over the Detroit River.
Witnesses say they saw a 33-year-old young black lady, Aletha Word, drive her car into another car.
In other words, an accident.
The other car contained three young guys.
Angry, one of them took a crowbar and smashed all her windshields in.
They dragged her from the car and ripped most of her clothes off during the scuffle.
30 to 40 people watched all of this and cheered and called for her, in fact chanted for her, to jump from the bridge.
She did.
Of all the people there, as many as 40, two of them at this late stage decided to try to save her, jumped in, tried, but she was dead.
The driver of the car, a 20-year-old man, has been charged with second-degree murder.
Her mother's comment, the mother of the dead young girl, said, you know, I wouldn't treat a dog that way.
Even NBC yesterday said the story stands as more for what it says about our society.
And what does it say?
30 or 40 people watched the attack on this young lady, watched the clothes ripped from her, watched her terrorized, and as they watched, cheered for her to jump.
Now I don't even know what to ask about this.
In Detroit there are 500 murders a year, give or take a few.
I guess I would first ask, should they, the 30 or 40 people that chanted for her to jump and cheered when she did, should they be charged with something?
You just, you can't tell me that this doesn't mean something profound and sad and hard to even discuss about our society.
When have you ever heard of such a thing before?
I you know, I don't know what to say about it.
Um, I'll let you say it.
I you know, I I wonder whether these thirty or forty onlookers and cheerrors ought to be uh charged with I don't know what they'd be charged with, you know Inhuman behavior.
I don't think that puts you behind bars.
Maybe it ought to.
Maybe it doesn't matter anymore.
Maybe the price of life has fallen faster than the American dollar, and there's just nothing we can do about it.
It is the end.
If not the end, then certainly the warning bells of the end.
In Rwanda, some more bells chiming, same type.
Remember the horror last year in Rwanda?
The hundreds of thousands who died, macheteed to death, then more than a million that fled Rwanda to Zaire.
The thousands who died there now, guess what?
Zaire has set the whole thing off again.
They are kicking out the Rwandan refugees.
In fact, they're doing it at gunpoint.
The Zaire government is forcing hundreds of thousands of refugees to go home at gunpoint.
They will simply no longer tolerate their presence in Zaire.
A year ago, over a million crossed the border to escape the brutal civil war.
The Zaire Army, as it is pushing these poor refugees along, is in the process burning, beating, raping, looting, whipping.
The United Nations has been told to not interfere.
They are there.
They are watching all of this go on, and they are supplying water, when they can, to the refugees.
That is the totality, apparently, of the ability of the UN to do anything about anything.
As usual, they're not able to accomplish a damn thing.
Iraq.
I thought so.
Today, Defense Secretary Perry said, quote, there is no evidence that Iraq is preparing to invade its neighbors.
End quote.
Well, that's pretty plain.
No evidence Iraq is preparing to invade its neighbors.
This story felt wrong to me.
But we sent yet another, I believe, 1,300 troops just dispatched to Kuwait.
Something is up.
Something felt wrong with this story.
What are we doing?
Obviously, we're pushing Saddam and cooking a little bit of what's fed in the American press.
And when I heard that story, it felt a little bit cooked, and I told you so.
O.J. Simpson.
There was a threat yesterday by the judge to throw television out of the courtroom again.
The judge thought the lawyers were playing to the cameras, which of course they are.
There will be a ruling on the tapes, the incredible Furman tapes, next week.
It's beginning to get dangerous.
Racial tensions are growing.
If cameras were pulled, would you cheer or cry?
And with regard to the Furman tapes, isn't this process of slow leakage very, very dangerous immediately to Los Angeles and its environs?
Again, writers, OJ expert finds Mystery Prince, a forensic scientist, has testified that he's found, get this, a second set of footprints at the scene where O.J. Simpson's ex-wife and her friend, Ron Goldman, were murdered.
Dr. Henry Lee said the prints could not have been made by the shoes prosecutors said Simpson was wearing when he allegedly committed the murders.
He also said the mystery prints could not have been made by Goldman's boots.
He'll be back on the witness stand when they resume this debacle on Wednesday.
And this comment, hi art, love the show.
By the way, this one will get you.
As the wife of an ex-wife, I guess this is, of an LAPD officer, I can tell you my opinion of the whole O.J. Simpson-Mark Furman mess.
I believe O.J. did it, and he will get off because of sloppy and or questionable work by LAPD, the coroner's office, crime lab, and prosecution.
As for Furman, I know his racism was not only tolerated by the LAPD, but sponsored, fostered, and supported by it.
Any officer who bucks the status quo won't be able to wear enough bulletproof vests he or she will pay, most likely with his or her life.
I can't hate or outright condemn my ex-husband or his fellow officers, because I've seen how each one goes to war every day, as long as they last.
Imagine fighting in Vietnam or Kuwait for 20 years.
Those who do make it to retirement have totally altered outlooks than those of us who lead civilian lives.
And let us civilians not forget that there is a vast population out there that feels no compunction to abide by the same laws we automatically obey.
We are perceived as holders of the goods they want, and the police are perceived as the enemy.
I'm a civil servant, too, but not expected to put my life on the line every day for everybody else.
The officers are expected to do that.
Even their most vocal critics expect total sacrifice on the part of the police with just one 911 phone call, no matter what circumstances led to the call.
What's the solution?
I have no idea.
I find it a pity, though, that Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman had to die like they did to bring this mess to light.
Now I bet OJ gets his kids back.
There's no justice here on earth.
Maybe when OJ meets his Maker.
In America, latest survey says 80% of American parents want their children to get a college education, but only 30% think they'll ever be able to afford it.
Death and Texas.
I said Texas, not Texas.
That was an NBC story, and I'm trying to calculate my attitude about this.
It is a story down there in Texas that you Texans can help out with.
It involves a young model and an old, now dead billionaire.
He is, was, 89-year-old J. Howard Marshall, an oil tycoon worth an estimated $1 billion with B, $1 billion.
She was, is 26 years of age, a model, very good-looking, an actress.
She apparently had a five-year courtship with our billionaire, an 11-month marriage, during which time she collected, was given, $1 million in jewelry, a $50,000 a month expense account, and after an 11-month marriage, he up and died.
Now, apparently the billionaire's son, by a previous marriage, somehow got hold of power of attorney and has cut her off.
And so he now, I guess, controls the money.
The attorneys are going back and forth on it.
But I don't even care about any of that.
Here's what I've got to say.
It will sound sexist, and who cares?
If I was a billionaire, and I was 89 years old, 89, mind you, and I wanted a 26-year-old, and she wanted me, well, let me put it this way.
My attitude is good on you, you know?
I mean, if he wanted to go out and get himself 26-year-old and court her and give her diamonds and all the rest of it and marry her and, who knows, maybe bet her, well, then more power to him.
You know, I mean, it was his life, his money, and he had a right to do what he did.
So that's my attitude when you get to that kind of a story.
You know, it's his viz.
He made all the money.
And as far as I'm concerned, he's got a right to spend it the way he wants to spend it.
And if it means he's going to spend it on a 26-year-old 10 on a scale of 10, well, then more power to him.
And I really don't have a problem with it.
I know that relatives do.
Dear Art, regarding the story that Noah's Ark may have been found atop Mount Ararat, first off, we've got to confirm it really is Noah's Ark.
It would seem to be in the correct general vicinity.
What else that is bigger than the Queen Mary and buried in a mountain in Israel could be there?
Actually, Turkey.
If it is confirmed to be Noah's Ark, there would be sweeping changes in the religious community.
A major part of the Bible and Christianity would be confirmed in scientific fact.
So that would prove that Noah existed.
That all the animals went two by two into the ark and that there was a massive flooding that wiped out everything that was not on the ark.
This would change a lot of people's opinions about a part of the Bible that some was pretty unbelievable.
Just something to think about till we see if it really is the ark or not.
And in a moment, I have from a friend in Missoula 40 ways that you can hasten the quickening and help destroy the earth.
You're sure not going to want to miss these.
Now, you will not hear all 40 because I considered about four or five of them to be not advisable to broadcast, but you will hear the remainder.
Um, Mike in Olympia, regarding the story up in Detroit, said, once again, we are tragically shown the necessity of the need for at least a five-day waiting period for crowbars and federal legislation restricting automobile gas tanks to less than 10 gallons.
And then this.
It's just been a real joy lately, you know, fathers gluing their five-year-old daughter's eyes shut with super glue.
Mothers in Chicago tossing children out of windows.
Children tossing children out of windows.
Now the story in Detroit, the mother in South Carolina.
And this, art added to your list of child killings.
Supposedly, Saturday at a local San Antonio mall, a nine-year-old boy from Colorado who was visiting for the past two weeks with his dad in San Antonio went into a restroom at the mall.
He didn't return.
According to his father, he searched for him but found him missing.
15 hours later, on Sunday, the father finally reported the incident to the authorities.
15 hours, folks.
The same day, Sunday, the poor child's body turned up in the river.
Autopsy revealed the boy had succumbed to severe trauma to the stomach and chest area, and the child also showed signs of previous abuse.
The father questioned extensively, but let go for lack of evidence.
He was kept under surveillance, however, as the most likely suspect, the only suspect they had.
Tuesday, after making contact with the man's 27-year-old girlfriend, who was in Tennessee, they apparently developed sufficient information to justify arresting the 35-year-old father.
He was picked up without incident at his apartment and is now under a $5 million bond.
Suzanne in San Antonio.
So, you know, I don't know how much more of this junk I can read.
It's becoming a daily event.
I don't know if that's true, but I do know we'll be back in just a moment.
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You're listening to Heartbell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from August 22, 1995.
Coast to Coast AM from August
22, 1995.
Coast to Coast AM from August 22, 1995.
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from August 22nd, 1995.
Five-year-old girls with their eyes glued shut by their fathers.
one of many ways mothers uh...
A woman in Detroit jumping off a bridge just because she's attacked.
Then there's the mother in South Carolina.
Pretty weird, huh?
A lot of people think it is a sign of the end, a quickening, whatever word you want to attach to it, it doesn't matter.
That's just the one I use.
So I was sent this over the internet.
People these days are constantly harping about the upcoming Armageddon.
But when is the world going to finally end?
Most people don't realize that it can't happen without their help.
Below are a few little things you can do to help end the world.
One, use motor oil to fertilize your lawn.
Feed lead to pigeons.
I won't number these.
Vacation by your local polluted river.
Serve chloral floral carbons as appetizers at your next party.
Find the remaining woodland in your town and use it for kindling.
Leave your car running all day.
Drive to the bathroom.
Spray your yard with DDT and not those other wimpy pesticides.
Pour Agent Orange into your local reservoir to enhance the flavor.
Wear only polyester, never more than once.
Become a megalomaniac and gain control of vast nuclear stockpiles.
Use them.
Dump your food leftovers into the recycling bin.
Keep the bubonic plague virus around as a lovable, low-maintenance pet.
Use at least three gallons of water for each tooth when brushing.
Create an oil slick in your backyard for fun science experiments for the kids.
Have 37 children.
Name them all Bill.
Strangle a bald eagle.
Spread styrofoam balls all over your lawn for winter fun all year round.
Email Al Gore petitioning to test nuclear arms above ground in major cities.
Offer free cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs to all pregnant mothers.
Own at least 43 television sets per person, per household.
Watch them all at once.
Build a simple coal-burning power plant in your basement.
Remove your catalytic converter and muffler.
They just ruin the fun anyway.
Aim x-ray machines at unsuspecting patients in the dentist's office.
Sunscreen?
It's for wimps.
Carve holes in the ozone layer.
They make great gifts.
Drive an M1A1 Abrams tank to work.
Develop condominium complex in beautiful Chernobyl.
Develop a secret neurotoxin that makes females pregnant.
Oh, I can't say that.
There's one I missed.
Buy something you don't need every day, three times a day.
Dump it on the freeway.
Work for the government.
Aerosol hairspray can be used for a lot more than personal grooming, putting up posters, cooking lubricant, antiperspirant, ant and roach killer, personal defense, and party favors.
Burn your own garbage for fun and profit.
And finally, enclose dead relatives in leucite blocks.
We hope these simple ideas will inspire you to create your own methods to drag the planet further into its own grave.
Remember, every person counts.
So it's come to this.
So I think I'll open the lines and with that as a setup, heaven only knows where it's headed.
Here we go.
East of the Rockies, it's 1-800-825-5033.
1-800-825-5033.
I have several appearances scheduled in the next several days.
I think in the morning, tomorrow morning, I will be on KCMO in Kansas City at about probably around 9.30 Kansas City time.
Then I have an appearance somewhere in Ohio.
I'll get that one for you.
And on Friday, I think I'm doing a morning show for KFYI in Phoenix.
I think that's lined out.
it's going to be a very busy week depending on where you are you might listen for my So even more than usual, I'm liable to say about anything.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
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Good evening, Mr. Bell.
You know, I was only kidding about your work on Saturdays.
Well, one of the big jokes, or something I was told years ago, that the people that are most vehemently anti-gun are really the biggest crooks on earth.
And they sought to use gun control as a smokescreen to mask their own illegal activities.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is, what does the Reynolds conviction have to do with guns?
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Well, it seems that people that are themselves very immoral and engage in immoral activity sort of crow on the gun control thing as a smokescreen to cover their own types of activities.
It is true that it seems like people who preach constantly about morality are frequently themselves then the target of or convicted of something rather immoral.
I mean, go back to, remember all the troubles with television ministries and all the rest of it?
These guys who preach and preach and preach.
And I've got to tell you, there's been a couple of instances in my own life.
Naturally, I'm not going to name anybody, but I mean, people have been real preachy.
And it's almost annoying to be preached to the way some of them do.
Very high and mighty on morals.
I'll tell you, some of these people, and this is the truth, and I don't care whether you believe it or not, have turned out to be thieves, cokeheads, low class.
I mean, I just, it is the most, and I was the one who got preached to.
I got preached to by these lowlives, turned out to be lowlives.
And you want to hear something even weirder?
After they were caught stealing and more, they kept on preaching.
Well, when you're dialing over there, you know, then you should imagine you might get through.
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Yeah.
Make a positive thinking come through.
You were talking about people, religious people, pointing the finger.
I work with the Postal Service, and I see a lot of the religious tracks come through, and one of the things I notice is whether they talk about themselves, their own beliefs, or whether they spend a lot of time putting down the other beliefs.
It tends to be, you know, like Jimmy Flagger pointing his finger at Jim and Tammy Baker, and then a few months later saying, I've sinned.
There's a couple people, maybe even three, in my life that have been that way.
I mean, you almost can't be around them because they're so damn preachy about morality.
And I'll be damned if they're not the ones who turned out to be thieves, dirty dealers, totally screwing over their neighbor and their business associates every opportunity they got.
In other words, the lowest of the low and the preachiest of the people I've ever known.
There are a lot of people, and I don't mean to disparage them, who are quietly moral and quietly ethical, and I applaud them.
But I'm telling you, look out for the ones that make a lot of noise.
Okay, anyway, about the story in Detroit, I was absolutely flabbergasted when I heard about it yesterday, and I don't know what to say except I think that.
Well, do you think people who cheered this on should somehow face some legal penalty?
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Well, I don't know what's the chargement with Art because it's like they were almost cheering on the murderer.
I mean, according to yesterday's account, even though it got straightened out today, one of the accounts had the woman hanging on the railing for dear life, and the attacker was beating her on the fingers of the crowbar until she let go and dropped into the river.
That was the other account, which I was a more killing account, and I just assumed that was probably what happened, along with the cheering and the clapping and the laughing.
And one bystander tried to get someone with a cell phone to call 911, and they refused while this was going on.
And I think that's a very pertinent subject for today.
One thing that I haven't heard mentioned on any talk show, and I listened to an awful lot of during the day, is circumcision.
And I'd like to know your feelings about that and hear some callers and what they think about the needless amputation of a body part on infant males, you know, without their approval.
In other words, a lot of people consider it a medical procedure that is performed for cleanliness throughout life, and I don't think it constitutes abuse.
So I don't, you know, from an abuse point of view, my answer would be I don't think I care.
Well, I was just wondering if you believe, in your personal opinion, if they've had in the past, you know, far past, if they've had any manipulation on our progress.
Yeah, well, and they also calculated thousands of years ago the rotation of the moon, which today if they calculate it, they differ by like 24 seconds.
No, I said there was an earthquake on the very day of the creation of the nation of Israel in 1948 and that then later they found the ark through satellite imagery years later.
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Do you know how long they've seen the or have known about it since you know they're not?
Before we get into the serious news, good morning, those stations that join us at this hour.
You know, those stations that actually join us at this hour, you guys ought to call those stations and ask them to carry the beginning of the program at 11 o'clock Pacific time.
Because you've missed a lot.
And I can only sort of recap.
Before I get into the serious stuff, this is from Bryn Marie in San Francisco, who never fails me, listening to the mighty KSFO.
And some guy called up and said that he thought there was another star system out there sending messages to Earth and that the government was receiving them but not telling us.
I said, well, what are they?
And he said, well, I don't know.
So then I started wondering, you know me.
If you could, you know, interstellar messaging is very expensive.
It's not like a pager or something.
And so if you could only send one sentence, one message to Earth, what would it be?
I already have a couple of answers, my facts.
Here's Brynn's.
If I were living in a parallel universe and had been observing Earth transmissions for years and could only send one message to this planet, it would have to be something considered after long hours of thought and observation.
Here's what I've sent.
If the Minnow was only on a three-hour tour, where did Ginger get all those dresses?
And this.
Top secret, message from Sister Solar System.
Send more episodes of Dreamland.
Signed Gecko, Goleta, California.
Well, by the way, to once again announce, the good people at WOAI, the monster in San Antonio, are going to begin running Dreamland this Sunday.
And we've got several other joins.
And Dreamland now hits or sits at 139 affiliates, maybe 140 by week's end or more.
Amazing.
There are four, maybe no less than five would-be hurricanes out in the Atlantic right now.
Very serious ones, most of them in the process of strengthening.
And you attribute that to whatever you want.
Maybe this.
It began in Detroit with a traffic accident, ended with a young woman, terrified, jumping off the bridge to her death, while dozens of people, as many as 40, stood by and cheered and watched and chanted for her to jump.
About 3 a.m.
Saturday, witnesses say they saw 33-year-old Aletha Word drive her car into another car.
It was an accident.
That car containing three young men.
Angry, one of them jumped out of the car, took a tire iron, smashed her windows, dragged her from the car, ripped her clothing off.
During this, the crowd is loving it, right?
30 or 40 people watched, cheered, and finally she did it out of absolute fear, jumped off the bridge.
She's dead.
To their everlasting credit, at least two people did try to save her after the fact.
The driver of the Car 20 has been charged with second-degree murder.
The mother of the dead girl said, I wouldn't treat a dog that way.
Even NBC yesterday, mystified at the story, said it really stands more.
I mean, there's 500 murders in Detroit every year.
But they said it stands as a comment on society.
What our society has become, you tell me.
I was wondering if the people involved in that should be charged with something.
You know, the ones that were chanting for her to jump off the bridge, there's really nothing to charge them with legally.
But I got a facts here.
Is that art?
How about conduct unbecoming a human?
I'd really like to know what those 40 people are feeling right now.
82% of the American people say they want their children to go to a college, but 30% think, only 30% rather, think they can afford to send their children to college.
Then there is the death and Texas story, not Texas, Texas.
The young model and the old billionaire.
This is an 89-year-old guy dead now, J. Howard Marshall, an oil tycoon down in Texas, worth, they said, about a billion dollars.
89 years old.
At 89, he married a 26-year-old, easy 10, I mean, beautiful woman, just beautiful.
God, beautiful.
Model, actress.
There was a five-year courtship, an 11-month marriage, a million dollars given to her in jewelry, $50,000 a month in expenses, and now, of course, everybody in the family is going to fight.
I guess his son, by a previous marriage, got power of attorneys, cut her off, and there'll be a big fight and probably a settlement.
But, you know, when I think about this story, I think the 89-year-old guy with a billion dollars, you know, maybe in his 88th year, he decided, what the hell?
Let's have some fun.
I've got a billion.
I want a 26-year-old.
And maybe it was true love, and maybe it was for the money.
And, you know, I don't know that I care.
It was his money.
He did what he wanted to do with it.
If it had part of the, you know, and I'm sure some of the enticement was the money.
So what?
So what?
He says.
The guy did what he wanted to do, and it's his life and his money.
That's my attitude.
Then people started sending me stories of more child tragedies, you know, to make my day.
Nine-year-old boy in Portland killing his five-year-old sister with daddy's hunting rifle.
First, they thought it was accidental.
Now police have charged the boy with murder.
Another case in southern Washington about same time where two young children got the parents' magnum out, a 357 playing Nintendo, a fight.
One shot the other with the 357.
And I've got more, but I just, I don't want to read them.
It's like I've had it.
If this is not the quickening, the one we had the other day, the five-year-old little girl who had her eyes glued shut by daddy with super glue, that was nice.
The mother who threw her baby out of the window in Chicago.
The woman in Detroit that I just told you about, the mother in South Carolina.
And so, somebody sent me this, which I will now reread on the internet.
It's very cynical, but here's how it reads.
Comes from Missoula, Montana, by the way.
Entitled 40 Ways, and I'm not reading all 40, you can help to destroy the earth and hurry the quickening.
People these days are constantly harping about the upcoming Armageddon.
But when is the world finally going to end?
Most people don't realize it can't happen without their help.
Below are a few things that you can do to help end the world.
Use motor oil to fertilize your lawn.
Feed lead to pigeons.
Vacation by your local polluted river.
Serve chloro-floral carbons as appetizers at your next party.
Find the remaining woodland in your town and use it for kindling.
Leave your car running all day.
Drive to the Bathroom.
Spray your yard with DDT and not those other wimpy pesticides.
Pour Agent Orange under local reservoirs to enhance flavor.
Wear only polyester, never more than once.
Become a megalomaniac and gain control of vast nuclear stockpiles.
Use them.
Dump your food leftovers into the recycling bin.
Keep the bubonic plague virus around as a lovable, low-maintenance pet.
Use at least three gallons of water for each tooth when brushing.
Create an oil slick in your very own backyard for fun science experiments for the kids.
Have 37 children.
Name them all Bill.
Strangle a bald eagle.
Spread styrofoam balls all over your lawn for winter fun all year round.
Email Al Gore petitioning to test nuclear arms above ground in major cities.
Offer free cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs to all pregnant mothers.
Own at least 43 television sets per person, per household, and watch them all at once.
Build a simple coal-burning power plant in your basement.
Remove your catalytic converter and muffler.
They simply ruin the fun.
Aim x-ray machines at unsuspecting patients in dentists' office.
Sunscreen, it's for WIMPs.
Carve holes in the ozone layer.
They make great gifts.
Drive an M1A1 Abrams tank to work.
Develop condominium complexes in beautiful Chernobyl.
Develop a secret neurotoxin that makes females.
Oh, pray for.
I can't read that one.
I should have crossed that out.
Work for the government.
All right, and this.
Aerosol hairspray can be used for a lot more than personal grooming, putting up posters, cooking lubricant, antiperspirant, ant and roach killer, personal defense, and party favors.
Burn your own garbage for fun and profit, and encase dead relatives in leucite blocks.
We hope these simple ideas will inspire you to create your own methods to drag this planet further into its grave.
remember every person counts then you have to wonder what the other star system is going to say when it begins to get But eventually, they are going to begin getting the O.J. Simpson trial, which continues later today, unless they decide that it shall not be so, and that could happen.
The judge threatened to take it off TV yesterday, saying the participants, the attorneys, were playing to the cameras.
Gee, I haven't detected that.
How about you guys?
Playing to the cameras?
What a charge.
Anyway, the ruling next week on the Furman tapes is going to be made.
Now, I don't know whether I believe this one or not.
I think not, but it's entitled New Spin for Needle, and it shows a picture of the Seattle Space Needle from the air, you know, looking down on top of it.
And it says the top of Seattle Space Needle is painted to resemble the spinning wheel from the television game show, Wheel of Fortune.
The new look is intended to promote the show, which will be taping in Seattle.
Now, is that a true or false story?
And they actually show a picture of the space needle here, but you can't trust photographs anymore.
Have you guys really done that?
Is the space needle really painted to look like the Wheel of Fortune?
Dear Art, having been a citizen of this planet for a sizable length of time, it amazes me how a species could be so intelligent yet so narrow-minded with regard to visitors from other planets.
Most earthlings, including yourself, assume that for interstellar travel, the aliens must be of superior intelligence.
It's not possible that although more advanced in travel techniques, they might be far behind in other areas of knowledge.
For instance, you are by far the best late-night talk show host, but might not have the intelligence to become a great politician or a psychiatrist.
Just a little late-night snack to ponder on, keep up the good work.
Well, number one, I'm smart enough to know that.
I don't want to be a psychiatrist, and I certainly don't want to be a politician, and I'm very pleased doing what I'm doing.
There is the Peter principle, and I do not want to ascend to it, and that is that somebody will eventually be promoted beyond their level of competence to a job for which they are not suited, fitted, nor competent.
I have no illusions about wanting some greater position.
I enjoy doing precisely what I'm doing and wouldn't change it for the world, and have fought not to, as a matter of fact.
So if somebody could be charged for calling somebody else a name, I would certainly think that people who are urging three thugs to attack a woman and then to urge her to jump off a bridge, knowing what state of mind a woman must have been in, could certainly face some sort of trouble.
And nobody can tell you what it's like, and nobody can prepare you for what's there to come.
I just thought I'd spread some good news.
One question I'd like to ask you, though, coming from a father, what advice, not just general societal advice, but your personal advice, would you give to a new father?
The first being is that, you know, what happened to this lady on the bridge, you know, certainly if people were laughing at her and egging these guys on, that's one thing.
But, you know, I've listened to us at several talk shows, and there have been people calling and saying they would have intervened.
You know, there's a thing between being a hero and being a stupid idiot.
Anybody that would confront two armed guys, one weighing 300 pounds with a crowbar, is an idiot.
Is a person reasonably able to look at current events and discern a trend?
unidentified
Well, yeah, you can discern the trend that society is deteriorating.
But you can't discern the trend, which I think when you talk about the quickening, I think you're talking about, and excuse me if I'm wrong, I think you're talking about human extinction.
And I don't think that that is something that's imminent.
As a matter of fact, I'm not ascribing, Charlie, and I really mean this, I'm not ascribing anything to it.
I'm not saying it's biblical.
I'm not saying it's religious.
I'm not saying it's Armageddon.
I'm not saying anything.
I'm simply giving you an observation from having done this talk show for as long as I've done it.
And I think it is an accurate observation.
unidentified
Well, I think it's an observation, but I think the clarity there, because I think most of the people who call into your talk show and talk about the end of the earth, they're talking about human extinction.
They're not talking about society deteriorating.
They're talking about humans being gone.
And I think those people who say that are wrong.
As far as there being violence in the streets, riots, disorder, in a totally different society in a few years, yeah, it's possible, but I think it could go either way right now.
I think we're right on the brink of going either way, and I think that's going to depend on a lot of factors.
They both tried to twist it around without actually saying they were untrue, but gave strong implications by going to outside experts, alleged experts.
One fellow had to do with human physiology who claimed that one out of 2,000 Europeans has six fingers and has an option.
Yes, well, there was an article in this month's Scientific American, and that was about an asteroid that hit the Earth, a very large one, hit the Earth, only two million years ago.
Well, you know, they say there was, but I mean, who knows?
Sir, I don't see.
You know, you started out the conversation by saying you don't believe in, so here's the proof.
What's it proof of?
unidentified
It's proof that the aliens operated differently two million years ago.
Instead of they replaced all the major species after they exterminated all life on Earth, as opposed to what they did 65 million years ago, they did not replace the dinosaurs.
I'm very interested, of course, as you know, in looking toward trying to get proof of something, but a call like that discourages me.
I mean, first of all, I don't know about what has or hasn't plowed into the earth, but I fail to see how aliens have anything to do with it.
On the other hand, listen to this story from the Herald News.
Area farmers who have been swathing and baling hay in the early morning hours have had their long and tedious tasks enlivened considerably in recent weeks.
Farmers from Bonanza to Klamath Falls have reported seeing unidentified flying objects overhead as they work.
One rancher reportedly sighted a cylindrical object he said was the size of a football field.
There have been 10 reports in the area since the early morning hours of July 31st.
Now, that too proves nothing, but it is very interesting.
If I was a doll and, you know, people were sticking pins in me, you wouldn't be able to see my face for all the pins.
So that's all right.
unidentified
Yeah.
And then earlier you were talking about religious people who are always something, they're always pushing their morals or even standing on street corners preaching?
What I said was, I referred, of course, to the evangelical scandals that we have, but then I referred to people in my own life, people that I know that are just preachy as hell, and I mean really preachy, about morality, little tiny sticky points of morality preaching to me about my doing this or my doing that.
And these people turned out to be thieves, cheaters, the very worst sorts of people you can imagine.
And even after all of that was revealed, they still go on preaching.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, I myself personally like to pray to Jesus if I want to.
And I received some discrimination on that because I was in a gay rights parade marching with some friends and families, a straight contingent in the parade.
And one of the fathers, who was with the church there, I said, would you welcome gay aliens into it?
Yeah, what happens, you know, if we find out that there are aliens here, only they are, as a norm, a homosexual.
That is to say, they are of one gender and reproduce in that manner.
I mean, it's entirely possible.
Two questions then.
A, would we reject them and go to war immediately with them?
And would we allow them to march in earth parades?
Yeah, I get criticized all the time, you know, because it's because I allow anybody to talk about anything here on the air, and whether that includes aliens or whatever else it is we happen to be talking about.
And if you've been listening for a while now, you know it's anything on any given night.
So who cares?
I mean, life's too short.
You know, I'm 50 years old now.
And I am bound and determined to do this program the way I want to do it, which is to have it be an open forum, which is to have unscreened calls.
And if some of these heroes out there who are criticizing me would like perhaps to try for a few hours to do what it is that I do and take unscreened calls,
then after that experience, after they have tasted the unexpected, the unexplained, sometimes the nearly intolerable, after they've tasted that, then they could bitch at me with some basis.
But they don't.
unidentified
They hide behind their little screener TV screens.
The board operator at KCMO in Kansas City, this is reference.
We had a lot earlier.
Somehow, at the beginning of the program, KCMO got a switch in the wrong place or something, and there was rock and roll music on there for about 10 minutes, and then they got my show back on again.
He called up and said, sorry, new at the job, threw the wrong switch, see, that kind of thing happens.
So there you are.
I will be on KCMO Kansas City during their morning show, I think, around 9.30, somewhere in there.
So if you're in Kansas City and you stay up that late, I'll be on the air.
Probably a lot of people who listen to KCMO at 9.30 don't even know who I am.
I can tell you my opinion of the whole O.J. Simpson-Mark Fuhrman mess.
I believe O.J. did it.
And he will get off because of sloppy and or questionable work by LAPD, the Coroner's Office, Crime Lab, and prosecution.
As for Mark Furman, I know his racism was not only tolerated by LAPD, but sponsored, fostered, and supported by it.
Any officer who bucks the status quo won't be able to wear enough bulletproof vests.
He or she will pay, most likely, with his or her life.
Now, I can't hate or outright condemn my ex-husband or his fellow officers, because I've seen how each one goes to war every day for as long as they last.
Imagine fighting in Vietnam or Kuwait for 20 years.
Those who do make it to retirement have totally altered outlooks than those of us who have led civilian lives.
And let us civilians not forget, there is a vast population out there that feels no compunction to abide by the same laws we automatically obey.
We are perceived as the holders of the goods they want.
And the police are perceived as the enemy.
I'm a civil servant too, but I'm not expected to put my life on the line every day for anybody or everybody else.
These officers are expected to do just that.
Even their most vocal critics expect total sacrifice on the part of the police with just one 911 phone call, no matter what circumstances led to the call.
What is the solution?
I have no idea.
I find it a pity, though, that Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman had to die, like they did, to bring the mess to light.
Well, actually, I'm saying I've been doing this talk show for 11 years.
During that 11 years, sir, I have had constant modern communications available to me, television, radio, wire services, all of the, with the exception maybe of internet that's come lately, but otherwise, I've had access to information for 11 years solid, doing a show every night, five nights a week.
Right.
This show, and then six nights a week, otherwise.
And I'm telling you that all events are indeed accelerating.
It is true.
unidentified
No, I believe, I didn't say I didn't believe they were accelerating.
I'm just saying that these events have been happening on an accelerated basis since that time.
Yes, and it sounds like just like what I'm saying.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
I'm agreeing with you.
I see.
And I wanted to say one more thing.
As far as not just children's eyes being glued together and such, but that the one gentleman earlier that commented on Democrats and Republicans, and he made it synonymous with socialism, I don't agree.
I think he can be a Democrat and not be a socialist, and I think he can be a Republican and not be a socialist either, or the opposite of.
Hey, that Noah's Ark story is quite interesting, especially your caller last night, who seems to know a little about what's going on over there, the sonic reading that he was talking about.
You know, I've really wanted you to do that on either this show or on Dreamland to have that guy that's doing the research also about the Ark of the Covenant.
If they find the ark on Ararat, and they're going to be, the digging is, as we speak, beginning.
You tell me what else it could be high up on Ararat.
Something, I saw the photographs.
It's clearly in the shape Of a ship, a very large ship, larger than the Queen Mary.
How would that get up on a mountaintop?
I believe the stats I heard quoted the other night on encounters were that it is better than a hundred thousand to one that it is not anything from Mother Nature.
Well, most people in radio, sir, have been fired many times in their careers.
unidentified
But I mean, they're two individuals that their producer announced, this is how I found out about this yesterday morning at 6 o'clock, because I hadn't read any papers over the week yet.
Their producer announced it, and then they laugh and make a joke of it.
and this Steve and JC that are around here following you on KRAM.
Thank you for the call, funny, at all funny about that situation.
It is so sad that I worry, I really, I worry for all of us.
And as I said, the New York City incident, you recall how shocking and awful that was.
Today, I can hardly come on the air without hearing about some five-year-old's eyelids glued shut by daddy, one child who kills another, a lady jumping off a bridge, mama throwing a baby out of a window, crack mom.
you know I really could go on and on and on in other words what once was shocking and very unusual today is becoming And I'm sorry, but it's getting to be the norm.
I'm Art Bell, and we will be right back.
unidentified
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Now, you notice he wants to take everybody's gun away, but he says if it turns into a Mad Max world, he's going to take his and, you know, be part of the Mad Max syndrome.
unidentified
That is for sure.
Any gentleman on the scene there would have certainly defended not only her life, but her honor.
I think if it turned into a Mad Max society, he would be roadkill.
I mean, this must be, or is about to be, a big topic of talk radio in Seattle.
I mean, I would like to know what Seattle people generally feel about this change.
unidentified
Well, I've decided not to worry about it too much because other topics that you cover on the air are much more brain-grappling than the painting of the space needle.
And I'm just going to trust that eventually they'll repaint the space needle to its original pretty hues.
You know, after the flap of Wheel of Fortune is over with, I'm trusting they will repaint it back to its typical Seattle grace.
And I I got this picture of the space needle, and I don't know, it seemed like sacrilege to me somehow.
unidentified
Well, since we're down usually at the bottom and not flying over the needle, I guess we don't have to look at it quite in the same perspective as what you experience looking at it in the newspaper from the top.
And I find it rather interesting and somewhat humorous.
And I really can't take it that seriously, because up to this point, I've not flown over the needle.
That's what it looks like.
I was over the needle about two weeks ago, coming back from...
So even the people in the restaurant don't have to look at it, really.
unidentified
That's true.
they have to look at really are the gorgeous olympics and the gorgeous cascades and the sunsets and the sunrises and the rainbows we have around here that's what now That's going way too far.
I'd prefer a replica of the Statue of Liberty to a statue of Vanna White.
First of all, you have to have a fairly large arsenal carrot to carry around with you because the first thing you have to do is kill the perpetrators so they can't sue you.
Then you have to kill the witnesses so they can't finger you.
Then you have to make sure there aren't any TV people around.
A little cynical presentation, but the truth of the matter is that there is a step from that, or in other words, not participating, not jumping into the middle of it, but gee whiz, folks, to cheering and chanting for someone to kill themselves.
Now, please.
Yeah.
unidentified
I tell you, I'm going to do the right thing no matter what it costs, but I hope it doesn't present itself to me.
I'm wondering how our society is going to absorb this whole Roswell autopsy film.
It's a very interesting question.
It will depend, of course, on how they present it.
If it's with a wink, a nod, and a chuckle, maybe it'll just roll over everybody.
If it is presented seriously, there may be an impact on society.
Aren't the horrendous things that are taking place in our current world makes one wonder if somehow as a species, we are thinning out our own overpopulation problems?
Maybe.
Perhaps there is a kind of species consciousness that works within the balance of nature, and this is simply man's way of keeping that balance in check.
Sort of a lemming kind of deal, right?
Or perhaps our world is but a mere image of Sodom and Gomorrah, oh boy.
Remember, there were many atrocities taking place there, from open murders, child molestation, homosexuality, bestiality, stealing.
Are we doomed to repeat the past because we did not learn from history?
But, just like in Sodom and Gomorrah, remember God sent his messengers to collect and rescue the few godly people from that place before God utterly destroyed it.
Something to think about.
Carol, K-F-Y-I.
Well, it could be, could be that if they discover it is indeed the Ark on Ararat, that people will begin to do some deep thinking.
In other words, at one point previously, God saved those who were in the Ark.
Sort of drowned everybody like so many ants with a bucket of water tossed on them.
I mean, that's about exactly what it amounted to, right?
So if they find the Ark up there, and that's true, it's going to provoke a lot of very deep thought, isn't it?
Because what was done once certainly could be done again.
But the callers are kind of like the show, and you're just there.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, I really don't understand this whole theory about if we find out like there's aliens in extraterrestrial life that the world can fall apart, what are we?
Like a bunch of kids finding out that there's really no Santa Claus?
Which probably means that even if there really was sudden absolute proof of aliens, a substantial portion of the population simply would refuse to believe it.
Or anything else like that.
I mean, maybe we have arrived in the day and age where no matter how good the proof of anything, it will not matter.
People will doubt.
For me, there is a threshold of proof, a scientific proof.
What is science?
It is the ability to prove something by repeating it and achieving the same result time after time.
You can prove something.
So there is a threshold.
It's a fairly stiff and a severe one, but I will accept something as scientific fact at a certain point.
That threshold for me has not been reached with regard to aliens, or abductions, or crop circles, or life after death, or our maker, or a lot of things.
I have not reached that threshold of proof.
And I really...
I am intensely fascinated with and pursue these topics.
Do not translate that to, I'm saying it is so, because I won't do that until I get to that threshold of proof.
Yeah, it seems that if there are the thousands of people that are being abducted night after night, that some of them would come forward and say yes or no.
You've got to remember, other than, say, my newsletter, which, you know, got permission to publish these photos and some other various leaks on internet and so forth, the general public has not yet seen these.
unidentified
Well, yeah, you're right there.
I mean, I'm a nethead, so I'm on the World Wide Web all the time, and I've seen it for weeks.
So, yeah, I guess they haven't been widely distributed.
How do you think the American public will absorb this information?
It's a hell of a question.
I mean, when they show it, if they just show it, what do you think will be the result?
unidentified
Well, I don't know, because I consider myself a reasonably intelligent human being, and for years, the subject of UFOs was something that I never really thought about.
You know, I said, well, yeah, there probably are aliens.
I don't know if they're coming or not.
I saw so much of the tabloid stuff.
And one night driving home from work, I happened upon your show, Dreamland.
You were interviewing John Mack, and I said, my goodness.
And I went home and listened to it till late in the night, and I went, these guys aren't crazy.
And so I started listening to your show, and I started reading the literature, and there is this wealth of information from credible sources that people don't know anything about.
I've been doing this talk show, this particular talk show, for 11 years now.
11 years.
And I can tell you, during that 11 years, I've always had access to all the news that is the news that's worth reporting, as they say.
And events, crime, social misbehavior, the lessening of the worth of life, our political system, our institutions, everything, events have been accelerating and deteriorating, and it is real.
And I choose to call it the quickening.
It's just a word, but it describes a whole range of events that are accelerating at an incredible pace.
Hey, remember when they were talking about this, goes back a little bit in time, but about how the, I guess, gang people were putting the damper on drive-by shootings in L.A.?
Well, the thing is, I think that's a bunch of hooey because they had recently, within the last two weeks, a shooting up in Boyle Heights where a 14-year-old kid was killed.
The news crew went around and started interviewing the people in the neighborhood and they said if anything, the shootings on the street are worse than they've ever been.
So I think there's a little bit of fallacy there as far as what effect this has been having as far as the...
Hey, when they were talking about genderless aliens.
Well, they would still need prophylactic, sir, because even aliens of a single gender, which presumably would have, you know, fingertip to fingertip or whatever it would be, however their mating habits would be, would still have concerns about not wanting to have little alien children when they didn't want to have little alien children.
So no doubt those companies would simply adapt.
And I don't want to say any more about that.
We're going to break here and we'll be right back.
unidentified
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We just got the chance to die upon you.
Your duty's on, don't mind, girl.
Get it on, get it on.
Get it on.
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Well, this is just what I needed to top off my morning.
It's from Martin up in Como Country, KBI Country, Wheel of Fortune Country.
I can't believe it.
Hi, Art.
I just heard on the 3 a.m. news that several teenagers are being held on charges of animal cruelty.
Apparently, they hung two cats at a cemetery in the Queen Ann Hill area of Seattle.
Maybe they're related to Stephen King of pet cemetery fame.
In any event, the quickening moves on.
However, for these kids, it may be the slowing.
Washington state laws makes deliberate acts of cruelty to animals a felony.
And so it should be.
You know, if I were to add up the stories I've had throughout the night tonight and read them all at once as a 10-minute newscast, I would leave you in tears.
I'm serious.
The cruelty of human beings to human beings and to animals and to everything around them has grown to the point where you could take a night like tonight, combine the stories, put them all together, and probably take some of the strongest people out there to tears.
They're saying now this girl didn't jump, she was pushed off the bridge.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Mr. Bell.
Hello?
Yes.
I was just listening to what you're talking about, cats and kittens.
Hey, can I just run one quick thing about absolutely fresh flowers?
It's a great deal.
I've done it myself.
One little teeny flaw that I found in it was that I sent them to my wife as a surprise, and I put on the card, guess who, and they signed my name at the bottom.
On this subject about that poor gal in that bridge incident, I've been in towing for years, and I tell you, if you can put a ring and a curtain around an accident scene of whatever magnitude, you could get more money out of it than the Tyson fight.
I tell you, the people out there are sick with this.
And I've been to dozens and dozens of fatalities, And I've seen more accidents from the rubbernecks going the other way.
And being around the accidents that I've been around and stuff, I was just in one the other morning, you know, at the scene of one.
And it's a sad situation all around.
But the people that are, the gawkers and the rubbernecks and the comments, you know, in one turn, the police get battered down with this Rodney King and this Tyson or I mean the Simpson trial and all that, but they don't give them enough credit really out there for what they do on the sidelines helping people out.
They really do.
And the firemen, I tell you, don't get any credit.
I know, but the police, particularly now, probably have never in America been at a lower point with regard to respect and support.
I don't think they've ever been at a lower point, have they?
unidentified
I don't believe so.
They've been kind of shunned into their own little group, you know, and they're just kind of amongst themselves as friends and their own personal tight-knit family.
Now, Steve is the guy who facts about the living earth.
Remember Steve?
He was the guy I put on the air with my guest Sunday on Dreamland.
Dear Art, he says, point taken.
I suppose the difference between you and I is that I will not believe anything anyone tells me when speaking of the paranormal.
Words don't do it for me.
Now, I do understand that sometimes a theory can jive with one's own personal experiences.
I'm not a bomb thrower, but when I was in college, I had many debates about the living earth idea.
As long as I've been arguing this subject, nobody has ever presented anything more than a feeling for evidence.
I don't mean to insult your beliefs.
Sorry if I have.
I've been around the world more than once.
I've seen things that I would not think could happen.
I just think it's important to separate what is known from what could be.
It could be the black helicopters are out there to do unspeakable harm.
But we use our common sense to judge these claims.
So, let me ask you this, and I don't mean to be confrontational, in all seriousness.
What experiences of yours or things you have learned that lean you in the direction of believing, not knowing as fact, the earth is of a consciousness?
What is it that makes you not dismiss this as just so much rubbish?
I'm genuinely interested.
Steve in Santa Barbara.
Boy, Steve, here we go again.
First of all, I'm not suggesting, Steve, the Earth has a consciousness as you and I define it in our human condition.
However, the Earth is a balanced ecology.
Call it nature, call it God, call it whatever it pleases you to call it.
But there is a balance that exists, and so that in a very real sense, I'm not saying there is a consciousness.
I'm saying that the Earth is an organism itself.
A living, thriving organism that reacts as an organism would, perhaps in self-defense, perhaps in, in effect, ingratitude, if challenged, if irritated, that it would act to correct its own environment.
As the caller said, lots of lightning, lots of ozone, lots of hot weather that will end up in, in effect, balancing something else.
It's the best I can do, Steve.
I believe the Earth is, in that sense, a living entity.
Not necessarily a conscious entity, as we define consciousness, though I don't rule out that possibility, but simply alive in the sense I just gave you.
Best I can do, Steve.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
No, he gave up.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, this is Aaron, the atheist, calling from Fairhaven, Washington.
Well, that's fine to say, until you meet a leprechaun.
unidentified
I cannot disprove the existence of any God, but as Berger Russell once said, neither can I disprove the existence of Zeus or any of the other myriad of deities in ancient Greece or in ancient Rome.
i can actually invalidate any claim that any believer it isn't faultifiable in practice or even in principle for instance if you were to tell me that god exist I said, for instance.
Yeah, I wanted to also say that if, you know, like with Santilli's upcoming release and all that kind of stuff, if people really got on to the fact, if it was so, not saying it is, but if it was so, and say maybe there was just a mass landing so that everybody in the world could really see that there was other intelligent life in the universe and we weren't the only ones created in God's image,
my goodness, I think a whole lot of people would be back to the 20 stock crash.
A lot of people would be running around very, very numb.
All right, let me present you with an alternative idea.
Suppose somehow these people did have really good transportation, and so they made it here, but when they came down off the ramp, they were like dumb and dumber.
unidentified
They had high technology, but they'd been dumbed down in their education system.
So they were total twerps that came down off the ramp.
How would we treat them?
unidentified
That would be a good question.
I wouldn't know.
I would imagine under at least in this country, I think that most things, depending on how many there were actually there, if there was just a shipload, they'd probably be with God.
I'm going with your scenario, that they would be landing all over, there would be thousands and thousands of them, and they were all mental basket cases, that's right.
Now, as you know, our Constitution prohibits slavery of human beings.
unidentified
Well, yeah, supposedly, but I would imagine that under the circumstances right now, I would say the scenario would go that they would be put institutionalized and studied, and their technology would be whisked away and reverse engineered as quick as they possibly could and use it for other purposes.
I don't really think that the whole world would be so benevolent as to give them a box each of fresh flowers and thank them for dropping by and ask them when they're coming back.
Isn't the space needle sort of sacred in a way for Seattle?
unidentified
I think it is.
You look at products that come from Washington State that go all over the world, and you see pictures of the space needle and everything, and you just, I don't know, it kind of makes me sick to think that we are so commercialized in today's world that we need to see things like that.