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Aug. 13, 1995 - Art Bell
10:05
Dreamland with Art Bell - Denny Sargent - Rituals, Myth and Magic
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It's really a big one.
We have a new image of the Hale-Bopp comet.
And I want to thank Paul again in Houston for getting it to me.
Thank you, Paul.
The image was obtained, so that you know, from Kitt Peak using a Stewart Observatory 90-inch telescope.
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If you have a computer, it's called comet1.gif.
Now, if you don't have a computer, it is, I can tell you, because I sent it personally by computer to the publisher
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Along, I might add, with the image of the crystal skull, Max, and a photograph of my studio, the one from which I'm transmitting at this very moment.
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After Dark Newsletter.
He's a very nice man.
certainly an appropriate title for it.
All right, let me again mention to you UFO facts.
Now, if you listen to this kind of material, and I know you do, Humbert...
I bet he would, actually. He's a very nice man.
So, I just want to mention one other thing.
It's got 300 photos in it, and it took us forever to put this thing together.
12 countries and a lot of film, and I think that people might enjoy looking at it.
And if anybody has some strange ritual facts or ideas or anything that could help me in my quest for sort of a universal field theory of ritualism and mythology, they can send it to Carol Llewellyn.
I answer all my letters and I'd love to hear from people who are also involved in these kinds of things.
All right.
And so they would send it and care of the publisher?
Correct.
All right.
Off we go to a land you mentioned someplace in Louisiana.
Hello there.
You're on the air.
Where are you calling from, actually?
I'm calling from Chalmette, Louisiana.
All right.
It's about two or three miles outside of New Orleans.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
First of all, let me say I really enjoy your program.
Thank you.
And I listen to you every Sunday night.
Which station would pick you up in Laurel, Mississippi?
Do you know of any?
I don't even know where that is in Mississippi.
Oh, okay.
I have stations there, but I, you know... You do?
Yeah, I sure do, but I'm not familiar with exactly where that is.
Is it anywhere near... Well, I can't go through the... Okay, that's okay.
You'll hear us.
That's okay, because I just wanted to let my son know because he wanted to tune in.
I see.
Okay, thank you very much.
All right, sir.
Thank you.
I guess no specific question.
Your voice is heard everywhere.
That's not magic.
I don't know what it is.
It is kind of magic, actually.
It is.
It's magic.
A hundred years ago, they would have said it was unbelievable magic.
They'd have burned me with you.
Probably.
I suspect we're kindred souls.
Probably.
First time caller online, you're on the air with Denny Sargent.
Hi.
Hi.
Absolutely.
I am by no means the greatest author in the world.
As I said in the beginning of my book, I stand on the shoulders of giants.
I would recommend Iliad, who has written numerous books on mythology.
I'm going to give you some authors.
Absolutely.
I am by no means the greatest author in the world.
As I said in the beginning of my book, I stand on the shoulders of giants.
I would recommend Iliad who has written numerous books on mythology.
I'm going to give you some authors.
I would recommend Carl Jung especially his real basic book that is for everybody called
Man and His Symbols.
Oh yeah.
That one is wonderful.
Exactly.
I recommend of course Bob Lillard.
I'm losing my mind now.
Joseph Campbell and his video series are fabulous and any of his works are fantastic.
There are some other people like Eric Newman who people are not too familiar with.
He wrote a book called The Great Mother which is a survey of goddesses throughout history which is fantastic.
This is a relatively new field.
It's kind of a mixing of psychology and anthropology and history.
I'm trying to take it a step further into the field of ritual.
It's relatively hard.
Global ritualism is my attempt, but it's not a particularly scholarly work.
It's really for just average people.
Most of it was off the top of my head.
Let's talk for a second.
For some reason, Denny, I have a lot of witches that listen to me.
I don't mean just on this program, you would imagine that, but on my other as well.
I'm constantly getting faxes from them now.
Oh, good luck.
Now, let's talk for a second.
You know, for some reason, Denny, I have a lot of witches that listen to me, and I don't
mean just on this program, you would imagine that, but on my other as well.
And I'm constantly getting faxes from them now.
Is not witchcraft full of every sort of ritualism?
It's rich in ritualism, is it not?
Absolutely.
I've met a number of witches.
I've been to a number of pagan and witchcraft circles in America, and pagan circles in all different countries around the world.
And what witchcraft is, is in spirit.
It's a continuation of pre-Christian European paganism.
Historically there is not a lot of actual stuff that has been continually practiced.
Most of it is now a kind of revival of the faith, of European paganism.
What you are finding is that a lot of witches and quote unquote new age people and a lot
of people who are listening to your show, what they are doing is what I call eclectic
ritualism.
The whole second part of my book is called eclecticizing or eclectic ritual.
This is a movement that I am seeing and I think witches personify that, Wicca or witchcraft
personifies that really well.
But I'm seeing it all through the spectrums of new age, of unionism, of every kind of group that is looking for a kind of global vision of what is going on out there.
I kind of coined the term Eclectic Ritualism, which is people sampling Tibetan Buddhism, people going like yourself to Thai temples and getting some kind of feeling or experience, people going to Hopi ceremonies, people having some Hopi sage in their house and using that ritual, maybe having Tibetan prayer flags, maybe carrying a cross that their mother gave them.
This is Eclectic Ritualism.
To be honest with you, it's the great unspoken movement that's sweeping through America right now.
I kind of put a label on it.
In Global Ritualism, I kind of addressed it.
I don't really claim to be unique, but I guess I have a lot of friends and a lot of contacts on many different levels.
I know witches.
I know many different kinds of Christians.
I know a lot of New Age people.
I know a lot of psychics.
I know a lot of academics.
I know a lot of psychologists.
They're all really doing the same kinds of things.
I know.
As I said, that's what's bothering me more than anything else, Denny, is that so many of these people are seeing and saying so many similar things that individually you can dismiss them, collectively you can throw at your own barrel.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Denny Sargent.
Hi.
Hi.
Turn your radio off.
That's number one.
Always turn your radio off.
Tell us where you're calling from.
Well, now he must have gone to turn his radio off.
Well, just as a quick note, do you know what I think the greatest religious movement is right now?
What?
The World Wide Web.
I do.
Because religion means, the root of religion is the Greek word for religios, which means to re-link.
Alright, having said that, and not wanting to expand on it, Collar, are you there?
Hello, Collar?
Hello?
Yes.
Yes, you're on the air, sir.
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