Gordon Michael Scallion, a former electronics consultant turned prophet, recounts his 1979 voiceless encounter with a telepathic woman in a glowing purple sphere warning of U.S. earthquakes and landmass shifts—visions later validated by events like the 1985 Mexico City quake and 1992 California tremors. His "Earth Changes Map" (1982), dismissed as fringe, predicted coastal fractures by 2001, now tied to rising seismic activity along faults from Eureka to Baja. Scallion’s system, launching June 1995 via toll-free line (1-800-628-7493), crowdsources intuition-based forecasts, suggesting humanity’s future hinges on embracing subconscious warnings and collective preparedness amid potential geological upheaval. [Automatically generated summary]
I was living in Florida, and at the time I was living on a 30-foot sailing sloop.
And my vocation at that time was communications and electronics, and I was heavily into video and satellite communications and acted much as a consultant and was able to do a lot of sailing and then come ashore and work for a few months.
And I thought my life was probably as perfect as you can get it.
The business was consulting, but my background is electronics.
And so I acted in the sense of helping people design satellite uplink systems and video systems, educational applications.
So most of it was technical in nature, and it was also showing people how they can use video, which was just starting to come in in a large way at that time, how they could use it for educational purposes.
So it was perhaps 50% technical, and the other 50% was just finding applications for the technology.
I used to work very, very hard for short periods of time trying to put together packages for schools in particular.
This one was a school.
And then the package would make me enough money where I could afford to then just go sailing for six months.
So I would work around the clock very hard for three to four months and then go sailing for as long as the money would last me.
And in the process of a presentation, and the deal was well over a quarter of a million dollars of sales, of which a very large percentage would have gone to me.
And so it's important that people understand here you were right in the middle of something that would have made you a lot of money, put you back sailing where you wanted to be for a long time.
So your motivation would have been to finish it big time.
Finish it and then load up with the sailboat up and just head off to the Tortigas or somewhere in the islands.
And in the middle of the presentation, just at the point where I was starting to get down to the final part of the presentation, by the way, this was a shoe-in kind of a presentation.
It was a foregone conclusion.
I had solved the problems and it was just a formality.
I couldn't even make a guttural sound or anything at all, trying to bring up I can remember trying to force air from my lungs up just so I could, you know, I mean, I could, it seems like I could almost cough, but I couldn't get any kind of a sound out whatsoever.
I remember the panic at this stage, and I remember the fact that the thoughts in my mind was, is this a stroke?
I mean, I had no physical problems while I was there, so it wasn't like I had any kind of a known condition in the past.
It was totally unknown to me.
So I went into the hospital, and by the time maybe an hour had gone by, and I was still in the same state, and they immediately had a doctor come in.
Intern came in first, and the doctor came in, and he did the eyes, ears, nose, and throat examination, and looked at me and did some other kind of measurements, the normal workup that they do.
And he would talk to me, and then I would write on a pad answers to his questions.
And he said at the time, he said, we're going to have to do some studies on you.
He says, I don't see anything at this stage, he says, that indicates anything.
I believe they did an EKG and some other kind of monitoring work.
And so he kept me in an end of a ward, I think which was like an intensive ward.
He put me in a room and he said, we're just going to have to monitor you and we're going to have to do some tests in the morning.
And he said, you know, he was trying to calm me down and saying, I don't see anything that's coming up here.
And he kept asking me the same period of questions.
He kept saying, is there anything stressful in your life now?
Well, I would think if you couldn't speak, you know, if no sounds would come out, the last thing you would suspect would be mental because it would seem absolutely physical, whether or not it was mental.
They hooked me up, put a couple of IVs in each arm, put some kind of a monitor on me, and set me up in a bed and turned the TV on.
And so it was there, and so I was being monitored.
I had these two IVs attached to either arm on either side of the bed and some other cables on me.
And by this time, it's probably 11 o'clock or so, p.m. in the evening, and I'm just sitting up in bed.
And I don't think I thought that I was having, I mean, it wasn't an original thought that I was going off the deep end until the doctor actually started asking questions about my background and my family and whether or not I've ever had depression.
And in the morning, they're going to do a series of tests.
They're going to do whatever.
And I have absolutely no idea what they're going to do other than he said they're going to do a lot of tests.
And he mentions a couple of doctors' names that he'll call in that I'll meet.
Still not knowing who these people are or what they're going to do.
And then I remember, you know, the news was on 11 p.m.
And it was at that moment that phenomena started occurring.
The first thing that occurred is that I started observing light.
They were more of a purple, glowish light that seemed to be coming from outside of the hallway.
The doors had swinging doors with glass windows.
And I started to observe it, and at first I looked at it, and I thought that maybe it was some kind of equipment that they had out in the hallway that they were doing, and it was just light reflecting.
And so I continued watching the news, and I was taking notes, trying to figure out.
In fact, I think I began to try to compose a letter to the client just to apologize for what was going on.
So that was one of the things I had started.
I had pat and pencil there, and so I had the notes.
It seemed like the sphere that I saw, it seemed like it was a small sphere, probably the size of a grapefruit at first, at the end of the room near the door, which, again, I thought it was light coming underneath the door.
And then it kind of, the sphere was at the end of the bed, probably a foot or two from the end of the bed, just this sphere.
And from that sphere, rays of purple, violet, indigo colors, mostly in that spectrum.
And they were like shafts of light that came out.
And as they came out, it was almost like a mist that filled the room.
And I could look around.
And even at this stage, I'm still thinking that it's something, you know, my technical mind is thinking that this is something technical that's going on.
And, you know, I don't, I've been sailing, I have seen what they call ball lightning.
At this stage, I'm remembering why he's asking me these questions, and I'm thinking these doctors he wants me to see tomorrow, you know, our psychiatrist, and they're going to commit me.
And I really start to lose it.
And I back up into the bed.
I dig my heels in, and I can remember I moved so abruptly that the two IV bottles that were in my arms began to sway back and forth.
And so I reached to grab one so it didn't fall on the floor.
It was just like a reaction.
And I'm still, you know, my head is swinging around looking at it because it's a kaleidoscope of colors and images and symbols and rainbows of colors.
And as I moved to grab one IV bottle, the other one starts to swing.
And they're pulling at my arms.
And then I reached down for the nurse call button that was clipped on the edge of the bed.
And when I had reached over to get that bottle, I had jerked so hard that I had dislodged a pillow and a nurse call button.
So the nurse call button cable is now down on the floor.
The two IV bottles are swinging back and forth.
And these symbols now are just filling the room, and they seem to be moving closer to me.
They're still pretty much at a perimeter around the bed, at the end of the bed, but they're not close to me.
In fact, since that day, if I was to, if someone was to ask me about an event, the most important event of my life, for example, that had happened a year before or five years before, I would have some difficulty recalling the event prior to that day.
It would be vague.
I mean, it would be like, yeah, I did have the sailboat, and yeah, I did go sailing, and I went here.
The mist and all the symbols that were floating immediately grew back into the sphere.
And the sphere then grew to about the size of a basketball.
Again, it was a purple, all kinds of golden sparks were emanating from it.
And it seemed to have a slight motion to it as far as rotating.
And then that sphere moved from where it was several feet from the end of my bed and moved onto the bed about two or three feet above my feet and slowly started moving towards me.
And then once again, I really dug in.
I dug my heels in and just flew back and the IV bottles once more began to swing.
And I can remember trying to scream, having totally forgotten why I was even in the hospital.
I could just remember just trying to scream, and nothing came out.
And then inside of the sphere, a figure started to appear.
And then for some strange reason, and I can remember this part probably more so than any other part of it, is that a calmness came over me.
I can just remember that there was a calmness coming over me.
And I can remember that there was a thought in my head at that time, because right after this experience, I wrote down some notes of what I was experiencing because I figured I'm going to see the doctor in the morning and I've got to, maybe it'll help him fix me.
I tell him what I was experiencing.
But I had this calmness and I saw a woman's face begin to appear in the sphere.
Now, whether that was my subconscious mind way of dealing with shock, of just trying to convince myself it was something else, I really don't know.
I just know that this image appeared and it became, the sphere became a woman's, just her head.
And it was a woman who I've never seen before, haven't seen since.
Probably reminded me of what we see for a school teacher, you know, your kindergarten or first-grade school teacher that might have been in the 40s or 50s.
Reminding me of that, had the silver gray hair.
And I remember the hazel-colored eyes and higher cheekbones.
And she had this kind of a face that was like a teacher, somebody who you would pay attention to.
And her lips were moving, and I could hear her in my head, but not with my ears.
And it took me a few seconds to realize what that was going on.
And then I would flash back between, boy, these IVs, the drugs in here really, really cause you to hallucinate.
And then she proceeded to tell me that there was going to be great changes in my life and in the world.
And that I should remember the things that she was telling me.
And proceeded to tell me about some things that were going to happen regarding natural disasters.
And in the process of that, she would show me, she would say, now look.
And then as I was looking at the sphere, I would all of a sudden I would be looking at the world from a high altitude, looking down at the world.
And she said, I want you to watch these changes in the world.
And I would watch the United States, just landmass changing.
And then she said, now I want you to watch this.
And so it was a series of these images that lasted, I know exactly how long it lasted, because this started a little after 11.
And I remember the last image ended just as I heard Ed McMahon say, and here's Johnny.
And so I knew that, you know, 11.30.
It was 11.30.
And then after she showed those things, immediately the sphere just went away.
And then I was back.
The room was back to normal.
The television set was on.
And I jotted down as much as I could recall at that time of what she had said.
I think if I was going to conjure up anything, it might be, you know, a destructive thing for me would be, you know, I'd be out sailing and I hit a bad storm, which, you know, I did sail through a tropical storm once with hurricane velocity winds.
I know it sounds like that might be, you know, something that would be terrifying for me.
But at this stage, my total interest was in sailing and in business.
At that time and for several years after that time, a couple years after, that was never part of my thought process.
My thought process at that time and shortly thereafter had more to do with what was wrong in my life.
I was not seeing this as prophetic vision.
Everything I saw scared me because the next day, when they came to wake me up in the morning and have my test, my voice came back to normal.
It was back to normal.
And then it started, well, you need to see this doctor, and the doctor was going through the questions, you know, do you have any mental illness in your family?
So the whole thing was that I was really back in the, and I also remember, because my childhood, until probably age of 14 or 15, like many people, was very strong Catholicism.
You know, Mass was a daily experience for me and released its instructions Monday through Friday was a normal thing for me.
And so the only thing I could imagine was that this was something religious.
This was a devil or this was a possession of some type.
Just let me note here, Gordon, people with religious backgrounds who see UFOs or have some sort of paranormal experience almost always take it as a religious experience, don't they?
At this stage, there were times in 1982, 85 again, 87, where I said, okay, I've figured it out.
This is what it is.
And then all of a sudden, another experience in my life would happen, and I would say, no, it's not that.
I'd have to say, and I've had literally tens of thousands of visions since then, that I probably know less about the mechanism today than I did back then.
And if you would again tell that story, you know, I guess that's, is that the first thing other than the initial visions that were shown to you that began to manifest itself after all of this, this ability to seemingly to diagnose or heal?
It took about two years for me to really begin to explore it because up to that time I was spending most of my time with therapists trying to figure out what was wrong with me.
And I wasn't, and most therapy tends to keep you going for a long time period.
Eventually, what happened is that someone appeared at my doorstep and said that they had been sent to see me and that they heard that I had the ability to see the life force in people and that I had the ability to heal and that they needed some help.
These were gentlemen, they were elderly gentlemen, but they were dressed in suits.
And I kept asking them, who told you this?
Because at this stage, I hadn't told anybody.
In fact, it wasn't until the past couple of years that I really was willing to go public with any of this.
As it turns out, while they were there with me, I was able to, by a prodding from him, I was able to diagnose a problem.
And I don't know how I did it.
I just kind of, he said, well, just tell me what's wrong.
We know you could do it.
And I remember saying what the problem was.
And then after, you know, asked me more questions about it.
And he said, just share whatever comes to you.
He just kept saying, just share whatever comes to you.
And finally, I just turned to these gentlemen.
I said, look, I said, you don't need somebody like me.
You need a doctor.
You need somebody who knows what they're doing.
And one of the gentlemen looked at me and smiled.
And he said, I am a doctor.
And as it turns out, one was a doctor and one was his friend, his lifelong friend.
And he couldn't help his friend who was dying.
And it turned out to be a mercury poisoning problem that was affecting some parts of the system.
No, it was that as he pressed hard with me, visions started to, and it was very similar to the visions that I had.
I mean, I was seeing visions since the night I lost my voice.
The visions would occur once a week, once a day.
I never knew when they were going to occur.
It was the same kind of a vision, except this vision was very specific to him.
Most of the visions I was seeing, I had no idea what they were.
They were just ancient cities and future cities, and I just didn't know what I was seeing.
In this particular case, it was related directly to him, and I would just say, this is what I see.
And then he would ask me a question, and then I would see a part of a vision about, I would see, like, you know, some herbs, for example, or something, and then I would just say, well, I'm seeing some herbs, and I see the name on their bottle, and then I would just say, this and this and this, and then occasionally I would say things that I couldn't possibly know from the vision.
Like, the vision might show me something, for example, like the herbs.
And then I would say, you need to take this, and you need to grind this up, and you need to make a poultice out of this and mix this with this.
And so I don't know how that part of it came out, but he knew.
I mean, he knew, and he did it.
And they left, and then I saw him again about two or three months later.
They stopped by, and I immediately noticed the difference in his aura at that time.
And he came in, and I remember joking.
I remember saying, looks like he decided to stay, is what I said to him.
And that started the healing process for me, which lasted up until 1991.
And at that time, all of the healing work that I had done from 82 to 91 stopped.
We started to just deceive people and people started sending other people.
And I felt that as long as this thing was fairly quiet, and there wasn't a lot of fanfare with it, that I would continue with it if it was helping people.
And it also was helping me because what it was saying is that this thing that I was seeing as a negative thing maybe isn't negative after all.
A lot of my religious thoughts and beliefs about negativity just kind of vanished because we literally saw thousands of people, thousands of them, and perhaps two-thirds of them we were able to help and improve their life.
And some actually not only prolonged their lives, but probably saved their lives.
And about a third were not successful for one reason or another.
I have some viewpoints on why that was.
So anyways, it changed.
I then started looking at things and saying, this is not a curse.
Maybe it can be a blessing, and I just need to develop it.
We're very nearly at the top of the hour, and we've just managed to cover the right amount of territory in this first hour.
Very, very necessary for people to hear this so that they might understand what they are yet to hear.
Gordon, a quick question.
There are a lot of prophets in this country, or people who would be prophets, and yet you are easily the most highly regarded, the modern-day Edgar Casey, why?
I think that, first of all, I believe that there are many highly qualified sensitives and intuitives out there, and business people in particular just naturally have a high level of ESP and intuition.
I think that because of the experience that I had, it was so traumatic in my life, and what I saw, I think I reached a point and place in my life where I was willing to risk and put it on the line.
I've received literally hundreds, if not thousands, of letters from other futurists and geologists.
And interestingly, the colors were very similar in different places.
Whenever I saw oceans, the colors around oceans reminded me so much of when I would see the blood in people's bodies.
Sometimes the imagery was so similar.
And when I would see certain areas of landmass, whenever I would see blockages, for example, in people's arteries and things, I would see the same kind of things, same kind of colors.
So it was almost as if the earth became human, which my personal belief is that the earth is a sentient being, and my experiences and my correlations with it were too exact.
Do you think that without reference to what has given you this power?
Do you think that the time that you could diagnose people by reading, in effect, auras and having some visions was training so that you could be, in effect, switched over and begin to look at the earth as you looked at people, sort of a way to bring you into it so you could understand it?
You once described to me, I think in the last interview, that your visions are, you could almost describe it as three video presentations at one time, with one of the video presentations being more clearly defined than the others.
Typically, the Earth was in 91, the Earth was being shown in three screens, and then about a month or two it would go.
I only now see two screens when I look at the Earth.
But the brightest and most colorful screen, I learned what that meant was that that was the probable reality.
This is probably what's going to happen.
It was like very strong that it would happen.
The second vision would have colors, but it would be somewhat muted.
And it would be the same scene, but the scene would look different.
One scene, for example, might show a tree blossoming, and the second scene might show that tree being hit by lightning.
And then the third scene might show that same ground, but it'd be all barren.
And so I've learned that what these are are the probable realities.
And that's when I learned early that when I was seeing things for people in the heli modality, in about a third of the cases, I felt that either I was totally off base, I was wrong, I misread it, I didn't understand the vision because nothing had changed.
But I have since realized that there's this thing called free will and that we can always be told things that we should do, but how many of us really do all the things we should do right?
And these visions were showing me these are the possible outcomes.
Okay, well, early on, when you began to have those kinds of visions, now obviously, or I would imagine at that time, you didn't go public.
You probably watched the visions.
And did you begin to keep score in your own mind?
In other words, as you saw these things either occur or not occur, you must have been kind of keeping score and trying to figure out in your own mind what the right thing to look at was?
When I was doing individuals, I was keenly aware of imagery because, for example, I would see three screens on a person.
It might be showing some kind of unbalance in a person.
And if I saw that person six months later, the amazing thing to me was that whatever discussion we had six months before would be an instant recall.
And I would look at the screens again, and many times the screens would change.
In other words, the screen that was the most probable one which indicated that somebody was going to be disabled all of a sudden changed and that one became a gray screen and then their vitality was healthy.
So I watched the screens change and so that told me that there's no such thing as that everything is going to happen, that there is always that possibility of free will, that we can change our destiny, change our path if we choose.
Just as a matter of curiosity, what percentage of the time would you say that what you consider to be the most probable reality based on what you were seeing changed to something else?
Has that, with regard to the Earth changes that you've seen, how's the batting average there so far regarding the most probable outcome and what seems to be occurring, Gordon?
It's changed significantly since actually since 91 when all this change.
Part of it is, I think, because I'm totally focused in one area now because when other things, the personal healing stopped and focused into the Earth, I obviously became more aware.
But I noticed a big shift in the year 1987 because even in the 80s I was seeing visions of the Earth, but they were scattered visions.
They would come now and then.
In 1982, I actually saw what the United States would look like at the turn of the century.
And I sketched out and actually made a map in 1982.
And it was so far-fetched that even I didn't believe it.
And the reaction to people who I shared it with was so negative that I just withdrew it.
And I said, well, this is no place to spend my energy.
Let me just add a little detail here for your listeners so they can have another point of reference.
The visions that I received in 1979 showed the United States what it would look like in the year 2000, and it was kind of a general sketch.
Since that time, I have seen that vision thousands of times, literally, and each time it hasn't changed dramatically, but because I've seen it so often now, I'm able to draw some finer lines of what it looked like.
And finally, in 1993, the visions, there were three screens up in the 80s.
When I got to 87, there were only two screens.
And then in 1993, there's only one screen.
And what that tells me is that we're fairly locked in in a broad sense.
And I say abroad tense because what I also see is around the country, I'm seeing lots of what I call gold aura colors.
You know, if I'm looking in space down at the Earth, I can see these pockets of, you know, And what I have learned is that it's community being reborn.
It's people who, through their rightful living, who are getting back to the earth.
They're cleaning up their environment.
They're changing their lives.
So there's a lot of positive lights that I'm seeing.
in those areas is where I see potential for some light modification of this pattern.
There's a variable in the map of about 50 to 100 miles of where these lines draw.
And I never could figure out what that variable was.
And I realized more recently that it had to do with consciousness, how things are happening.
There are many people who write me and say that some of these things aren't going to happen or we can change all these things.
And I would like to truly believe that.
But I have also learned to be a true futurist, that I really need to share what I see and not handicoat it or modify it in any way, but simply to put it out what I see and let time and history be a judge of its value.
It's a tough thing to do because my tendency is to want to heal everything and make everything right.
Yet what I am seeing currently is that these changes are set in motion and that these little auras I see can modify these changes somewhat.
And I do believe that we will see modifications of the map.
What I would love to see is the whole map be totally modified.
It would require such an incredible act now for that to happen.
I would love nothing better than to wake up in the morning and see a vision where all of a sudden I see two screens again.
In other words, in your visions, have you ever had what has narrowed to one screen and something that is definitely going to occur split back into two?
The screen shows a series of changes to the United States that begin with the West Coast.
In our original maps that we published, we stated that the first phase is three quakes that would occur northeast of Los Angeles.
And we forecasted that those things would occur in April of 92 and then again in June of 92.
And the magnitudes would be six and seven.
And those things did come to pass.
And the third one has not occurred yet.
I felt for a while that Northridge, we knew and we had forecast that a quake was going to occur in January, but it did not occur in the epicenter area that I had forecast, which the next major quake I see is in California in the Palm Springs area.
Originally it was about 100 mile radius, and I now feel it's a little tighter.
Yeah, and I think we will see a magnitude that will be greater than 8.
So that would fulfill that part of the prophecy, that there would be three quakes in that area and those specific magnitudes.
When those happen, when that completes its cycle, it then establishes a benchmark for other things to happen.
One of the most difficult things with forecasters, whether it's a financial forecaster or any type of forecasting, is time.
And so, you know, if we're into financial matters, we buy all the newsletters and we try to figure out who has a track on what's going to happen and when is gold going to go up and when is silver going to go up and so forth and so on.
So it's a difficult thing to do, reading a vision and trying to interpret it.
We've had some success at what we do here, and we've had some failures at it.
The failures usually are that the event occurs either earlier or later than we forecast.
We publish it each issue, each year in January, I publish my major forecast for the year.
And then in February, we do a synopsis of what we said from the year before.
And so we say, these are the ones that we were right, these are the ones we were wrong, and these are the ones that we can't tell.
And based on that, as an average, if we look at the past, let's say, since we've been publishing, since 91, we find that out of every hundred, between anywhere between 79 and 87 out of 100 occur.
Yeah, this is saddening because the China and the Texas events, we immediately, we have a hotline where people can call and get daily information, weekly information, and we reported those things.
And it's part of a long-range forecast.
The cause of this change is the greatest trouble that we're going to experience in the next five years is going to be weather-related problems.
When the major superquakes occur, that'll take hold.
But those are like one event that happened.
But weather is going to be ongoing.
And what's happened is that the mechanism that's driving all of these changes is due to a change internal to the Earth.
The Earth's core itself, I believe, is shifting its position.
And it's modifying weather patterns.
I did a report several years ago that I believe that in the Pacific, especially around East Island, a large area of volcanism is occurring.
And I believe that that's also what creates El Niños.
And I believe that then that's one place in the world.
There's another place in the Indian Ocean where I believe it's also occurring, not too far from Sri Lanka, in fact.
And I think that those mechanisms are altering weather patterns.
We're also seeing fluctuations in the magnetic field.
We know that it's not stable.
So these are the driving forces, and we're going to just see a lot more of this.
This is not going to be a one-shot deal.
We can expect to see this on a weekly basis from this time forward.
There'll be some form of weather phenomena ongoing.
I mean, I, like everybody else, I watch the weather and I've listened to weather reports, and we have never, in my experience in my life, had these kinds of reports.
This is phenomena which made it really difficult, not only for me, but for many people who were seeing visions like this and not having a reference point of seeing this kind of such dramatic changes.
And it's hard, you know, if it was a storm, you know, and we've had hurricanes before, you know, you can understand that.
But when you're seeing large sections of land mass actually breaking off and seeing glaciers on the move and we're seeing the hailstorms that you're speaking of, these things are just way out of the normal.
And what's happening, of course, is that what's out of the normal continues to become normal now.
And this is going to turn to the social aspect for a second.
But I've been using a term, Gordon, I watch the news very carefully.
I talk about it every night here on the air, and we'll get to some contemporary news here shortly.
But I feel, Gordon, a quickening, a quickening of everything, of our social deterioration, of the events like the weather stuff we were just talking about.
Almost in every aspect of human life, there's a kind of a quickening going on, and things are beginning to occur at a faster pace.
My prophecies were that in 1990 that it would begin the cycle, actually 89 would begin the cycle, and that each year there would be about a magnitude 10 increase on various, which I would call energy dynamics.
That the reaction of the Earth, it's like a train pulling out of a station.
It has a lot of weight to pull, and it chugs along and it gets moving, and as it gets moving, it gets faster and faster and faster.
So what you were referring to as a quickening, I refer to as a planetary energy release that's going on.
And this release, you can't do anything in the physical Earth without its effect on all of us.
We're so tied into it.
I wish that everybody could see the colors that I see, because what you would see would be whatever colors we have on our body is on the Earth.
And you can see the direct relationship.
We know, for example, that all of the minerals that we have on our body are found on the Earth.
And we can see so many correlations.
The oceans at many times are very similar to the bloodstream.
And we can see rivers as arteries, and the rainforest as the lungs of the Earth.
We can see these parallels, and it is moving very fast.
And 1995 is what I would consider where the train has pulled out and is starting to gain speed.
The scenario for people who are first-time listeners is that four quakes would occur in a serial in a scenario.
What I try to look for is early warning signs, things that we can, rather than say that this is going to happen in the States, I try to back up and look for other things that would warn us about these things.
And what I find is that what I forecast earlier this year was that in January, February, a cycle would begin, and it would start in Japan, and then it would be followed by a quake within weeks rather than months in the Indian Ocean of the South Pacific, and then within weeks rather than months again by another one in South America, and finally on the west coast of America.
And the first cycle was that they would be magnitude 6.5.
And the first cycle did occur, and it did complete itself.
And so it is, while this is not it doesn't fulfill the prediction because it doesn't have the right magnitude, which is that all the quakes would be greater than seven.
However, that scenario is running right now, even though they're lower in magnitude.
Some of them got up to seven, but the Japan quake did not get up seven.
It was a little over six.
But I still would caution on it, in which case within a couple of weeks, we may very well see a quake in the West Coast.
But I do want to state that the major four quake scenario has not begun because we have not had a quake greater than seven in Japan.
Let us discuss then when the major cycle, quakes of seven plus, begin, what then will come when it comes around and gets to the fourth event in California?
If it completes itself, if all four aspects of the quake, let's say that there is a quake in the next 60 days in Japan that is greater than seven, and it completes itself and then it comes to the west coast, then in Southern California is where I see the event occurring.
And when it does occur, it would be a major quake.
In fact, the quake would be reported as the big one that everybody's been waiting for.
In fact, in my next issue, the June issue of our monthly newsletter, I'm going to be discussing specifically this.
And so it might be a good time after I share this that we let people know how they can find out more about that.
The first thing that I see that happens is that it's a vertical thrust quake, very similar to Northridge.
It runs or it tears the land for miles, miles and miles.
The first impact that I can actually hear and see in the vision is that I saw a shuttering.
It was almost like a shuddering, a calmness, and then I noticed that there was glitter in the streets, and I realized that it was glass that was totally covering automobiles that were parked in the city of Los Angeles.
And I realized what had happened is that the glass windows had popped out of the skyscrapers and came crashing down, and it literally filled the streets.
I then noticed that the big portions of the Imperial Valley literally were flooded, that water had come in, that the landmass had shifted so significantly and cracked, the elevations had changed, and literally detoured water places around.
There was an, I'm not sure if it was a secondary quake that happened later or after, but I observed, in fact, I observed that up in San Francisco, I observed the Golden Gate being damaged.
And again, I wasn't sure from this vision whether it was as a result of this quake or whether there was one that followed it.
One of your predictions for 95 is Sonoma County and the Bay Areas of Northern California to be hit by a magnitude 8.5, plus or minus 0.3, it says.
now could that vision of the twisted golden gate bridge i'm never heard you say that before could it be from that it can be because It is hard, like some of the hurricanes of last
If you have missed the previous two hours, you've missed something very important.
And I can only hope that you have one of those radio stations that at the end of the program will repeat the first hour or two.
Because it was a very important two hours of groundwork for what we are now going to begin to explore, which is indeed very frightening.
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There is breaking news.
As all of you well know, we've been closely following this hail problem around the world, beginning with reports verified of 33-pound pieces of hail falling in China.
There has been a major, deadly hailstorm in Texas.
The Associated Press is now reporting seven dead and major property damage, gigantic hail falling.
Gordon Michael Scallion says, it is but the beginning.
You're listening to a man who's got between a 79 and 87 percent hit or accuracy record for predictions made through his prophecy.
That is an established, documentable fact.
Thank God, or it would be very hard to do this program.
With that as background information, Mr. Scallion has predicted a 8-point-plus earthquake within now a narrowed area of 50 miles around Palm Springs, Sonoma County, the Bay Area of Northern California, to be hit by a magnitude 8.5 earthquake, plus or minus 3.
These things are predicted to occur in this year, 1995.
Remember, it doesn't have to be, but according to Gordon, well, let's ask.
Gordon, it doesn't have to be, but how likely is this scenario beginning to become in your mind?
The only thing that keeps me going doing what I'm doing was that when I produced this map in 82 and it was rejected by friends and peers and others, and then I reemerged it in 91 again because the visions were just so clear.
And I knew initially that it would be a hard thing to present, that myself and my family would go through a lot of negativity as a result of it.
But I felt that here was a snapshot of at least what one person's visions were.
And whether it was entirely accurate or not, I don't think it was as important that even if a part of it was accurate, even if 1% of it was accurate, it could be valid and it could act as an early warning sign.
And so I felt that from that point of view, it would be a valuable thing to create this feature map of the United States.
And to that end, I'm beginning to see those kind of things happening.
I'm seeing more people who are willing to look at it and say, well, I could see this might possibly be.
The number of earthquakes that are sevens and eight has not, I mean, we only have, and we're not really sure of that, as my geologist friends tell me, of how many nine earthquakes we've had in recorded history.
We think that there are one, perhaps two.
But even an eight earthquake is considered staggering.
So there is no theoretical limit to the amount of release.
As you increase each point or each fractional point, the amount of energy released is phenomenal.
We're talking things I realize that are totally unprecedented.
We know in past history that we've had things like Krakatoa that created massive stuff.
We know things that happened with Farah when that blew.
And so we know that complete cultures were either submerged or buried under volcanic ash.
And we know there was cataclysms that occurred 10,000 years ago.
We know in history that things in nature can happen very abruptly, but we tend to see things over periods of long time periods, thousands of years, hundreds of thousands of years, millions of years.
But yet it can happen quickly.
And my visions indicate that we are in that quickening time.
So these catastrophic quakes will occur, and then you say the country will sort of begin to pull itself back together again and start recovering from all of this.
And I can imagine, human beings are very elastic.
We would begin recovering, but then comes another series, doesn't it?
The series becomes, you know, the talk, of course, for years and years has been, you know, California will break off and fall into the sea sometime.
And if we look at the cliffs along part of California's coast, we can see these sheer cliffs, which indicate that sometime in history, something happened geologically.
We also can see that in Nazca and different places in the world, we can see these sharp cliffs.
We know that sometime something occurred.
I see that kind of an event.
I see three phases of it.
The first phase fractures California from Eureka.
If you draw a line from Eureka to Bakersfield down to the Baja, along that line, everything to the west of the line fractures literally by 98, 2001.
By 98, that occurs.
And shortly thereafter, which would be measured in months, it could be a little longer.
It might even approach a year, but I doubt it.
We would see a secondary fracture occur.
And that secondary fracture occurs up in Newport, Oregon.
So if you draw a line from Newport, Oregon, right through your state to the middle of your state of Nevada, down to Phoenix, another fracture occurs there.
And that then becomes the second west coast.
Then by 98 to 2001, it happens again for the third time.
And this time, you'd have to draw a line up further north of Newport.
You'd have to look at that area there.
And Salt Lake City area, or just north of Salt Lake City, for example, becomes a part of a coastline.
And east of Cheyenne, just into the southwest portion of Nebraska becomes a part of a coastline.
I think as things begin to happen, there's another magical thing going on now that I observe.
At the same time that this earth is doing its changes, I'm noticing a major shift in consciousness.
I'm noticing, because that's all I do all the time, is work with vision and with other people who see vision, is that people are coming more intuitive every day.
And a larger number of people are listening within.
They're starting to listen.
And they're just, a lot of people, I've had so many letters of people who said, you know, something told me to move here or move there, and I didn't know why.
It didn't make sense.
And then all of a sudden somebody showed me your map and now I understand it.
And I believe that what we're seeing is the Native American tradition, and we'd have to look in other countries too, the Aborigines and the Maya.
And what we're seeing is that many of them are teachers.
They're establishing some groundwork, some structure that we can follow.
They're a tradition, and it's been preserved through their processes, and that's emerging right now.
I'm seeing personally a lot of that, and more and more people are coming.
If we look at it, we look at the recycling movement, and we look at the people who are trying to clean up the environment, there's a large movement out there doing that.
Yeah, and I think it's Because at the superconscious level, everything that I am seeing, like I said, even if a fraction of it turns out to be correct, other people are seeing the same thing.
They just are interpreting it differently.
It's a subconscious level with most people.
Most people are going about their lives, their careers, their relationships, and they have pressing matters in their own lives.
They're on their own life's path and mission and following their own star.
And there are some people like myself whose mission is to present these things in such a way that it may be of some value.
They're no doubt sitting there, but they're about to be jumping.
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All right, Gordon.
I'm going to bring you forward now to a couple of contemporary events that demand your attention.
One is the horrible bombing in Oklahoma City.
I mean, it was a major, catastrophic, horrible event that now, because it apparently was done internally by people in this country, is beginning to socially tear at a very important fabric.
And socially, there seems to be more division, more hatred, more of all of this than I've ever seen in my life.
It would be several states joining together, and it's mostly because of earth changes and economic collapse, which I believe we're about to begin.
I believe both of those things are going to occur this year, and it's going to force states to pool their resources together and chair fire departments, share police departments, schools, things of this nature, and resources.
And also, I believe we'll go back to a gold standard and a commodities standard as a way of commerce.
I'm getting faxes from Denver, actually from all parts of the country right now.
They're just flashing in.
The news break, apparently, in the last few moments has begun to report an earthquake in Indonesia of all places, which I believe is right, unfortunately, in line with what Gordon Michael Scallion has been talking about.
A 5.6 earthquake has just occurred, I believe, in Indonesia.
So I would say that if it completes its pattern, then within weeks we're going to see something that's going to probably be in the six range at least in the West Coast.
Not only did I see it in the vision, but I actually heard it.
I heard the cracking sound.
I actually saw the sound waves being emanated traveling across the country.
The Earth actually buckles in the central portion of the United States, but it fractures first in the west coast, and then it fractures further in, as I said, towards Colorado and Nebraska area.
And then on the East Coast, the changes are kind of the last part of it.
In other words, the East Coast will be affected later.
And by later, I'm talking about months to, at the most, a year.
We've seen it significantly or measurably in Greece, for example, in the harbors there.
We know that there are shifts.
And what's actually happening is the contour of the Earth is actually shifting.
We're seeing bulging.
This magma displacement, the core displacement, is actually pushing land masses.
And it's displacing water.
So I have been aware of that.
But it's going to occur slowly at first.
We're going to see, you know, this year we're going to see massive winds and massive flooding.
Those are two things that we predicted for the year in January.
A lot of wind, incredible amounts of wind and tornadoes, a record break in this year.
And those winds will be throughout the eastern seaboard and out in the southwest.
And we're seeing indications of that already.
We're going to see as the St. Lawrence is going to become a major seaway.
And this again occurs before the end of the century, so within the next five years, and perhaps earlier rather than later.
And we're going to see the Great Lakes expanding significantly so so that it forces water down through the Mississippi and it will actually divide the United States between east and west.
In fact, it literally becomes two smaller landmasses, if you will.
We're going to have the eastern United States and the western United States.
In the future, I have seen this spectacular engineering feat where they build a bridge, the longest bridge in the world, longer than we could ever imagine, that spans these distances.
And the eastern portion of Arkansas and the southeastern portion of Illinois and the northwest portion of Indiana.
About 50% of Michigan actually becomes two islands, Upper Michigan and Lower Michigan is what I saw them being called in the future.
The Great Lakes merge and become just one large inland sea.
The southeastern portion of Texas, Houston becomes a seaport, and it pushes it all the way back into some 50, 75 miles from San Antonio.
So I'll give you an example down.
So even the southern portion, southeastern portion of Texas becomes.
And then as we look around in the Gulf of Mexico, what we find is that portions of Florida, it could be as much as 50% of Florida.
That's fairly easy to see because Florida is a very flat region.
But about 50% of that becomes underwater.
A piece of the eastern portion of South Carolina, everything pretty much maybe 20, 50 miles from Columbia, South Carolina, so the coast gets pushed in.
And so we begin to lose part of the east coast, but the relatively small parts, you know, they're less than 50 miles of the east coast.
Unfortunately, in our society today, in the world, most of our population is on the coast.
That's right.
So herein is where we have massive movements of people.
A lot of these changes are going to give advanced warnings because we're going to watch these things unfold.
One of the things about our technological marvels today is it's like your show tonight is being broadcast through satellite that's traveling around the world.
And people instantly are in communication.
Vax machines tell us what's going on.
Video cameras show us what's going on.
We watched Kobe.
We watched Oklahoma.
We all participate in that in some emotional and spiritual ways.
And these things, I think, are going to actually aid us in many ways.
And so the variable that I see is even though these landmasses are occurring, I think it's still out for judgment how we play it out.
And a lot of people may very well be saved because of our technology today and because more and more people are beginning to listen within.
I tell people, don't listen to what I say.
Watch and track what I say.
And then if it makes some sense to you and it can help you, then it's a valuable thing.
Gordon, you said that you see the future world as some sort of peaceful place.
Assuming all this occurs and I'm not here and a lot of other people aren't going to be here, is it going to be a good world, this next world after all of this?
It's a two-sun system, but it's smaller, much smaller, but it's clearly, if you look in the sky during the day, and one sun is just coming up on the horizon, you can see the second one setting almost.
And it's smaller.
It's like a huge bright star, but it's clearly another sun.
I see Japan creating, thinking of Japan creating more tidal wave damage, the West Coast too, obviously, but I was aware that what was going on in Japan really created most of the damage to the world.
So it does lose some of its land mass because of the rising water.
But most of northern Canada and good portions of the central portion of the United States, but Canada, north, and including good portions of Alaska remain geophysically stable.
So if you were to look at what you see for the future of this country and you wanted to move to one of the safest places, the center of what will be fairly geologically stable, something you could live through, where would you go?
I could live anywhere in the world and I've chosen this area.
The reason, and there's many, there's many areas.
In my future map of the United States, if you look at the contours, and I suggest that people take about a 50 to 100 mile radius inside of that, the lines that I put, what the new coastline is, and then find places in there.
The southeast portion of the United States is excellent, some of the best.
Portions of Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina, mostly, again, away from the coastline, those are good areas.
Good portions.
So that's a dynamic area.
Portions of Pennsylvania are dynamic areas.
Nebraska and Kansas are going to be very significant, as will Iowa.
New Mexico itself is an area that's probably going to expand.
And in many ways, it's going to become the new entertainment capital.
Gordon, you can almost close your eyes, and as you picture the fracture you talk about in the big one in the center of the United States, you can easily see why what you're saying would occur to the coasts would occur.
I can picture that in my mind.
Gordon, stay right where you are.
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You know, we've seen it begin with the floods, the Mississippi floods.
We've watched the hurricanes.
This year is going to be devastating with hurricanes and tornadoes, just devastating.
And Texas is getting hit very hard and has been this year.
And yet more is to come, at least with wind.
So it is another indication.
It's another part of that prophecy that so many futurists out there have been stating for years that when weather pattern changes become erratic and dynamic, that would indicate that we're into the final days when greater changes will follow.
It would be Earth upheavals.
And so we've entered that stage, and we will learn to expect that this will be happening on an ongoing basis.
All right, Gordon, if you could snap, this is probably a hard question, but if you could snap your fingers right now and make all of this, all of the visions, stop, would you?
At this stage, I've never thought of that, but I would say that I would do it if I felt that there was nothing further that I was going to see that would be helpful.
And then I would say yes.
Every day that goes by, I actually almost say a prayer that says, you know, I don't want to see any more vision.
Stop this.
And then after a few hours go by or I wake up in the morning after having said that before I went to bed, I say, well, what if I see another piece that could be helpful?
And then I find myself continuing on.
So I'm in an inner battle with myself constantly.
If it's helpful, then I'll do it.
And if it stops and I no longer see vision, then it could go away.
I was wondering, I've read the account that George Washington had, his vision recorded in the Library of Congress about where he foresaw the destruction of America by foreign armies.
And I was wondering if you've envisioned any invasions by, you know, America being invaded.
Gordon, because of your accuracy record, because of the amount of respect you have, and because you're saying the kinds of things you're saying now, you must feel, you must really have terrible, terrible struggles.
I mean, to go public with this must have been a gut-wrencher.
Yeah, it was something that I would, on a conscious level, I would have never done this.
There are too many other things that I would have liked to have done and still have those feelings, other things.
But it was, you know, what happens is that when you start to see these visions and you see how it disrupts people's lives, I mean, Oklahoma was a classic case for me.
I mean, the empathy that Cynthia and I felt in just watching that thing unfold and then also seeing the outpouring and the compassion and the psychic link that went on with the millions of people who were tuning in or probably billions of people in the world tuning in, I see more of that occurring.
I see more of those kind of connections.
And it's those kinds of connections that I see that tells me that as difficult as it may be, that there's still some really positive things that come out of it.
Anytime there's a crisis or a relationship falls apart or you lose a job, it gives you an opportunity.
And I think we're going to be faced with those same kinds of opportunities.
It's like when I was watching a vision, instead of seeing three screens, I was looking at one screen.
And then the next thing I knew is I heard a pop sound, loud pop.
And the next thing I know is that I was inside the vision.
I no longer was watching it with my inner mind's eye, you know, like we would imagine something.
I was actually physically there, and I could hear the people, and I could hear the chanting that was going on.
I could see these prehistoric birds that were flying in the air.
In fact, it was such a dynamic thing that the last three issues of the Earth Changes report, I share that whole experience though that I felt that other people might recall it through their subconscious mind.
But it was a structure that was built, and it was built over 12,000 years ago, and it was built as a form of a time machine.
It was a large machine.
Now, that's much different than the other pyramids that were built as tombs.
This one wasn't.
And a cataclysm occurred, a major cataclysm similar to what we're going through right now occurred.
And part of the reason of building that structure was to foretell things that were going to happen around the year 2000.
My experience, my auric vision of looking at pyramid hats and things of this nature, I have not seen the emanations of energy that I see when I look at the physical pyramids.
The physical pyramid shapes definitely emit all forms of energy inside and out.
The stones themselves were quarried on site, many of them.
If you would remove the pyramid from its base, what you would find is in the center of it is passageways that descend down 400 or 500 feet deep.
So underneath the pyramid, there's all kinds of cutting that was done not only there, but in and around the plateau.
So a lot of the limestone came right from that site.
I was watching them cut holes, and they used a form of a laser, the only one could describe it, because it was a loud humming sound and a very sharp light that would occur at the stone, but between the instrument and the stone.
I didn't observe any light, but when it hit the stone, it was a light.
So they actually cut these stones from using a laser technology.
But that implies a technological civilization that did not exist, and that implies that there have been previous civilizations on this very earth, really, that have come and gone.
Yeah, for me, you know, and I have a technical background, so I tend to look at things a little differently.
And if you go into that pyramid, and if I was there, I actually wondered how many Egyptologists actually have gone inside and spent the time I did inside of the Great Pyramid.
Because if you went to the Grand Gallery there and observed the magnificence of this gallery, 30 feet high, stones weighing up to 50 tons, polished, perfectly straight.
You can see tracks that have been cut and grooved in the thing.
Perfect.
I mean, everything is perfect.
And you look at this thing and you say, I mean, we could not construct that today.
The Japanese tried to do a scale model there right on the plateau and gave up.
The only thing I saw in the vision is that I was on the other side of the Rockies.
In fact, I was at the foothills of the Rockies looking east.
So the only thing that I knew from the vision was that it was somewhere east of the Rockies.
And what it did, however, is it immediately started, and other things have happened, like the major quakes I've been forecasting.
And so the plants across the country begin to shut down like dominoes, literally shut down.
Most of the plants are old and are in trouble right now anyway.
But this kind of does it.
And there's an amazing breakthrough in technology that I believe it's already been developed and I think it's being used, but I think It will surface for general use, and that's a way to take our nuclear stockpile and it neutralizes it.
It's an incredible technology, and I've seen a vision of that.
So, the nuclear waste gets cleaned up very, very quickly as a result of this plant that they built to do that.
And in fact, they built several of them.
The chemicals and many of those things, that's another story.
I see much of the water being tainted.
Most of the problems I see is that salt water leaches into freshwater systems.
The water is going to be the number one prime problem.
It will be the price of gold currently, and that's what we're going to see here.
We have Ebola, Zaire, and Ebola, several other varieties.
Things that are attacking human beings, diseases, the flesh eaters, the rest of it, that are occurring now on a scale that rivals the increase in activity in every other area we've talked about.
Many of the diseases that we have now are what I call diseases of consciousness.
We're finding that we have so altered our food source, and that's one of the major things.
When I look at the vibrational colors from foods, I can clearly see the difference between an organically grown tomato, for example, and one off of the shelf that was flown in.
I mean, the difference is that there's very little life force in it, so it's amazing that we're able to even sustain ourselves.
And yet we're in a society that we, if we live in a city, we can't very well go and have big garden plots to serve our whole family.
There are things that we can do, though.
But in either case, I see the changing in the earth itself, the magnetic forces, all the chemicals we pump into the air, the pollution, the heavy positive ionization of the atmosphere.
I see all of that as having broken our systems down.
And I'm here just speaking about the physical body.
Now, if I look and start talking about the subtle bodies that I see, the things that I see that science doesn't accept yet, I see those bodies in much worse shape.
When the physical body finally breaks down, it's happened at other levels first.
It happens at the mental level and the subtle bodies first.
And so if you're a healer and you tend to, if you want to see where the cause is coming from and you want to see the stages of it, you look at the subtle bodies.
It's going to continue.
And these diseases and plagues will continue.
And there's going to be seven that I forecast in 91 that we would see in the 90s.
There'll be seven plagues that will occur.
The positive size of this, if there can be, is that at the turn of the century, in the year 2002, when I looked there, most of the diseases that we had are gone.
Like AIDS is totally gone.
It goes away in a snap.
And it's a result of the change in magnetic field of the Earth, its frequency and its density changes, and it simply eradicates most of the diseases.
It creates new difficulties for us, of course, as we would imagine.
I believe before this year is out, we will see broadcast and we will have knowledge of the existence of other life and it will no longer be a question.
The only questions will be is that it's been fabricated by government agencies.
I mean, we'll go into that normal cycle of denial of anything that changes.
Oh, to prove what you just said, the bombing in Oklahoma City, there's a group of people out there right now, Gordon, that is saying the government blew up its own building, its own people.
I did not specifically see the Oklahoma in a vision.
But it was interesting that several weeks before, I did have a vision that 59 talked about, and I didn't understand it.
But what it was, is it was a large explosion, and then I saw a clock, and the clock ticked away, and when it got to the 10-second mark, there was a second Explosion.
And then immediately I saw this image played itself again the first time, the first explosion.
And then I saw it was an echo wave that came back down.
And it made no sense.
And so we didn't report it on our hotline because, unless I have the specifics of it, I just don't do it.
And then after Oklahoma, as soon as I heard about Oklahoma, immediately that vision snapped back and I said, I think this is what may have occurred.
This is what maybe was the second because there was two seismic recordings that occurred spaced about, I think it was 10 seconds apart, but it was due to a single explosion.
And the visions that I have seen since then indicate to me that it clearly was a terrorist act.
Well, yes, but my point was that, as you were pointing out, a lot of people, I mean, you've made an incredible statement that by the end of the year, their presence will be known, and a lot of people will think it is the government as they have thought it's the government in Oklahoma City.
My question for Mr. Scallion is, has he perhaps networked with some of these other organizations or compared his work to see some interesting correlations?
What we're seeing is that there are many people who are now receiving information.
As we get closer to events, more and more people will see the event because the psychic image gets stronger.
And there's correlations.
I've had people send me, I currently have about 10 different maps, 10 different people who don't know each other, and I didn't know these people, but they're from around the world, Russia, New Zealand, and they've sent me copies of their work, and unbeknownst to me or each other, there's similarities.
And what we see is that the cookie cutter is very similar.
If it looks at us at a cookie cutter, we're seeing similar events.
We may vary where we see the exact lines go.
And what I see is that it's the pattern that we're all seeing.
We're all kind of talking from the same script now.
How do what you get from that, when there is a consensus, how does that seem to compare to what you see?
If I understand your question correctly, well, in other words, once a consensus is reached through a massive number of calls, and you're then able to compare that to what you see, how much correlation is there?
The most important thing you can do today is really learn the trust within.
You have to learn to trust the gut feeling.
Business people will say, I bought that land because it was a gut feeling.
I bought that stock because it was a gut feeling.
I moved out here on a gut.
That gut is intuition.
The two things that I see that are going to make a difference for people to get through these times is one, is you're going to really have to start trusting your intuition, absorb everything you get out there, and then in your quiet space, sort out based on your feelings of what's real and what's not real.