Randolph Winters recounts Billy Meier’s 1970s Pleiadian contacts, where a Swiss farmer captured 2,000 UFO photos—many lost—using a $40 F14 camera, depicting beam ships and time-traveling beings from a non-Earth dimension. Winters, drawn in after reviewing Meier’s notes in 1987, describes human-like Pleiadians with advanced spiritual knowledge, warning of 1995 disasters like Florida’s submerged coastline. He dismisses their Roswell involvement but links them to Hyperboreans under Mount Shasta and CIA reports of reptilian bodies at White Sands (1951–52). Skepticism persists despite Apollo astronaut sightings, as governments suppress ET tech for fear of panic while prioritizing military control. New photos and details appear in The Pleiadian Mission, challenging conventional views on extraterrestrial presence and humanity’s free will. [Automatically generated summary]
Well actually they don't even live in the same time frame that we do.
Uh they say soon and many of our scientists are understanding it now that uh we can actually move up and down the time track so to speak and visit other time periods.
Uh they don't live in the same time pulse or track that we do.
You know we hop in our car in the morning and we navigate freeways to get where we're going.
They do a similar thing in these beam ships.
They leave their planet, they navigate up and down time tracks and go to whatever time frame they want to just as simply.
So the Pleiades that they are living in are not in the same time frame that we are watching with our eyes.
If we were to zip to the Pleiades right now to the planets they say they come from, they wouldn't be there.
Yeah, he's got his family started and he's standing there and he's got his little camera out and they're telling him that they've decided they want him to start taking photos and they want him to seek publicity.
They want him to tell his story to the newspapers and magazines and draw attention to himself.
I think they just really wanted to see, you know, what was going to happen.
It was kind of like an experiment for them.
Well, Billy does.
He shoots a couple of rolls of film and she says, well, I'll be back every week.
I'll send you telepathic messages.
We'll get together.
I'll answer your questions.
You can take more photos and let's play it by ear and see how things go.
They're telling us that's the reason they even take an interest in us, that our forefathers were also their forefathers.
That we have common ancestry way back.
And that once we leave Earth and have the technology to do it, we will discover that the human form, variations of the human form, just like ours, proliferates all over the universe.
The human form is a very common, natural part of the evolution of the universe.
We're talking about Billy Meyer, the Pleiades connection, and there's a lot more to go.
The new year is here, and many of you, I know, have promised to try to increase your own standard of living.
You know, have a better life.
Randolph?
All right.
So he began to take these photographs that now many of us have, that I have, and they are clear, shocking, good renditions of what we think of as flying saucers, and there appear to be several different types.
So he could handle it real easy, load the film, you know, and shoot it because he's only got the one hand to work with.
So he started shooting all these pictures with his little camera.
Since he lives out in the countryside and didn't know a thing about cameras or film, he would shoot two or three rolls of film each time that they had a contact, and then he'd mail it into Zurich to the film developer and wait to get his pictures back.
A hard turn out of the news and current events this morning.
My guest is Randolph Winters.
Imagine a remote area of Switzerland.
A farmer is contacted by extraterrestrials from a cluster of stars called the Pleiades.
Their mission is to raise the consciousness of the people of Earth through the understanding of our role in creation.
Now, Randolph Winters, my guest, went to Switzerland, a story we're about to tell, and spent time with Billy Myers.
So far, we've heard the story of his childhood, the first contact, the manner in which the alleged ships traverse all of this space through dimensional portals, I guess you would say, or dimensional travel, really travel through time as well.
We've heard about the childhood of Billy Meyer.
And then amazingly, and the thing that I think makes this story worth hearing, all the photographs that Billy Meyer took, many, many photographs, as many as 1,200 photographs, clear, good images of flying saucers.
There are new photographs.
I have some of them here this morning.
In a moment, the story continues.
Who is in California near your Belinda, I guess.
And we will continue now with the story, and some are going to consider it far-fetched, and it certainly sounds that way, until you begin to put your hands on and see the photographs taken by Billy Meyer.
Now, back to Randolph Winters.
Randolph, I guess at this point in the story, we've gone through his childhood.
He's in his mid-30s now.
He's taking photographs like crazy and having a lot of interaction with these aliens.
What I want to do now is, I guess, find out how in the world you managed to get in on all this, how you managed to make contact with Billy Meyer.
Well, actually, I came, I started seeing the photos myself about 1979 when they found their way to America.
Billy first published his photos in newspapers and magazines around Europe.
He lives in Switzerland.
So they started appearing in periodicals around there, and people, scientists, UFO investigators in the European area started looking into the case.
People by the thousands around Europe were flocking to his home, and we knew nothing about it here in America.
And then Colonel Wendell Stevens, who's into UFO investigation here in the United States, heard about it, went to Switzerland, looking into it himself.
And I saw some of the photos he was bringing back from Switzerland, and when I saw them, I thought, my, these are amazing.
I was shocked by them, like most people are the first time that they see them, because, you know, we're used to seeing UFOs in the sky, a white, blurry object, and maybe one or two photos at best, but nothing like, you know, what you're looking at there.
And Meyer is taking pictures in the daytime.
They're posing for them.
They're beautiful.
They're clear.
And they're so obviously real, you just have to stop whatever you're doing and take a second look.
Yeah, during that time period, Stevens and some other people from Genesis Publishing, they went over there, investigated the case, spent about a year there, went over the photos with all the technology that was available at the time, and finally gave them a clean bill of help.
Not only did they give up on trying to prove they were a hoax, they actually discovered that the craft that they were looking at in the photos, that the energy coming off of the craft was detectable in certain ranges of ultraviolet light.
And so these days, we know that now.
So if you want to fake a UFO photo, you're going to have to be very careful that your model, whatever you're doing, puts off a gravitational field because we know how to detect it these days.
So in effect, a lot of work was done and thousands of dollars were put into all sorts of thermograms, edge inhands, scans.
You know, they did everything they could with the knowledge that they had and the photos came out real.
And plus, we also have to remember that they're all shot by a one-armed man in a farm in Switzerland who can barely run a camera and doesn't have the sophistication or the knowledge to be able to fool people at this level.
And these were all shot in 1975 and 1978, long before we had digitizing and computer equipment, you know, that would make it simple to fake something these days.
Actually, they examined the camera and found that it was jammed on F14.
Apparently, whenever it was discarded and Billy found it, the camera had been tossed around, was cracked, and you couldn't change the winds.
So all of his photos are shot at F14, which means if you're into photography, you know that controls the depth of field.
So anything for about the first 10, 15 feet is going to be in blur, and it's just short of infinity.
So if something's too far off, it's not going to be real sharp.
So we have a man in Switzerland who for a three-year period takes hundreds and hundreds of beautiful daytime clear photos.
And this is the first time we've ever seen anything like this.
So of course it gets our attention and it lends credibility to the idea that he's actually having contacts and conversations with somebody, somebody, whoever they are, from another place.
And of course, the premise is that if they have the technology to fly here, they obviously must be from another world.
And I think I carried the pictures around and told everybody I could about it for several years.
And then ultimately, about 1986, I decided I got to go see for myself and started writing letters to Switzerland saying I'd like to come over for a visit.
And as it turned out, letters were sent back saying that Billy doesn't see visitors any longer, that he's had it with the public.
He's not interested in having anybody else come over and ask him a lot of questions and investigate the case.
Well, he did for a while, and then he literally just got overwhelmed.
He couldn't take all of it emotionally.
People challenging him, threatening him.
And to Billy, who had had so many amazing experiences all of his lifetime and was posed and ready to share all of his wonderful knowledge and education, found himself instead besieged with reporters and media people that, of course, were trying to get at the bottom of things and took the angle, like reporters will, the prove it to me angle.
Let's see what's here.
Which is what we have to do in our society.
And Billy couldn't deal with that too long.
He put up with it for four or five years.
And eventually his family was, his situation was getting very difficult.
His wife was getting upset with people trampling through the yard and thousands of people had come to the farm.
So Billy finally just closed the doors and he had formed a group around himself of people that were willing to help him and help him disseminate the information.
And he just decided he wasn't going to be public at all.
He was going to write books and put them out in German.
And if people wanted to read or hear about it, they'd just have to read a book.
Yeah, it kind of is that kind of situation, which is not uncommon, actually, in Switzerland.
It's very common in the hills for several people to be living in big farms, but his situation was more like a commune in that all the people that were there were there because of him and to support his work.
And besides, I felt a little bit like, I guess I do need to prove myself to this man that I'm serious, that I'm here for the right reasons, that I'm not, you know, I'm not here trying to steal anything or, you know, bother them.
I just came because I wanted to know what was going on.
I started reading those, and inside of these pages, I started feeling like I had had the contacts myself.
That here was word for word, they transmitted to him, the actual conversations on all of his contacts every time they'd picked him up and had a contact with him.
Most of the contacts, it turns out, had lasted for two or three hours.
They'd picked him up, taken him in the craft with him somewhere.
They would sit somewhere in a quiet place and answer questions.
Questions that he had from himself, friends had given him.
They would then spend time educating him about things that they felt were important.
And all of it was in these pages.
So I'm reading them, and I tell you, I was fascinated.
I was so totally preoccupied with that stuff, I couldn't do anything else.
And I was up all night reading, you know.
And so I stayed there for three weeks, and I had to come back because I was job problems, and I couldn't stay any longer.
So my vacation was over, and I thanked them all very much and left, and I came back home, and they sent me, gave me copies of all the notes and the books that Billy had written, and everybody was very nice to me.
So I came home, and I'd only been home about a week, and the phone rang, and it was some people from the farm, and Billy was on the other end, and he wanted to thank me for coming over, and said, you're welcome to come back anytime now.
And I thought, well, that's nice.
So I couldn't come back right away because I had, you know, work.
But a few months later, I decided I would go back, and I did.
And when I went back, I stayed for about four months that time at the house.
And Billy was real friendly, came to pick me up at the train station, and we just kind of became buddies and hung out together all day long.
And so then I got to know him real well.
And then we just, we spent five, six hours every day just sitting on the front porch or in the kitchen talking.
And he is different than most, he's quite different than most people you're ever going to meet in life.
He's more similar to, I would say, a guru in India.
He is a quiet person who meditates a lot.
He's peaceful.
He's never lived a life like we have.
He's never had a car payment and a credit card.
The majority of his lifetime has been spent in the pursuit of spiritual knowledge.
He spends a lot of time contemplating his life, nature.
His ability to understand the language of key and sign and communicate with nature, beings of other worlds, higher consciousness, has led him to totally down a path different than the rest of us have been.
And so because of that, he's not a small talk conversationalist.
You don't shoot the breeze with Billy about the local news and your car and your kids and things.
Well, I did ask that, and we were sitting in the kitchen, and whenever he starts to talk, on the radio there in the kitchen, everybody at the house there keeps stacks of paper there on the radio.
And when Billy's in the mood to talk, you want to take a lot of notes.
So I asked him that question one day, what is a universe?
And he proceeded to start explaining to me.
And so I started grabbing paper and drawing pictures and taking notes.
And we spent the whole afternoon going over it.
And in effect, and we can talk more about this as we go on, but my question was mostly about what is a universe?
Is it a physical thing or is this just our imagination or what the heck is it?
He says that, as it was explained to him, that the Pleiadians, because of their technology, have been able to move in time and actually go back to the origin of the universe and watch it develop.
So they have studied it as it has developed, and they now have a pretty good understanding of what it is that we are living in.
If we were to go to a Pleiadian world and go to a classroom, say, the school there, they would have their own textbooks on how the universe came about.
And here's what we would understand.
We would find out that they have discovered that what we live in, what we think of as the universe, you know, we look at the stars around us and the planets.
And we just don't really have a clue where the heck we are or what's going on.
So for our listeners out there, let's say if they had a blank paper laying in front of them, they took a pencil.
And if they drew an egg, shape of an egg on a piece of paper, that the universe, if you could fly outside of it, is egg-shaped.
And then if you could take that egg, say, and cut it in half, like you might just slice the thing right in half and take the top off so you could look down inside and see what's in there, that you would see that the universe is divided into bands or rings.
It looks similar to like what we'd see in a tree trunk.
And that there are seven bands or rings to a universe.
And if we count from the outside, calling that the seventh band, and if we move in two, to the fifth band, that's where we live.
That the way the universe is constructed, it's almost holographic, that the only place there is material existence, like we are aware of, is in that fifth band.
That's the only place where the three-dimensional reality that we can sense exists.
The other bands, you know, 7, 6, 4, 3, 2, and 1 in the center, are creational energy.
There's nothing solid there.
But the universe is divided off, sectioned off into these seven different bands.
So we live in that fifth band.
And what has happened is as the universe evolves, at the beginning even the fifth band was non-solid.
It was creational energy also.
But as the universe has evolved, the fifth band over long periods of time evolves and that's where the physical matter comes about.
And eventually it starts the gaseous state, and then the gases turn into elements.
And then as we learn in school, you know, the universe begins to form from the gases, then the planets, then the mineral kingdom, then the food kingdom, and then the people, animal kingdom, and the people kingdom.
Just pretty much, you know, as we've learned in school.
So in effect, we have what a universe is, is an egg-shaped hologram divided up into different sections.
The dimensions are in the fifth belt.
The fifth belt, where we exist, is actually divided, you might say, into dimensions, which are a dimension is the division between the speed of particles, is a way of saying it.
They've discovered that there's a creational energy that creates universes, and that that energy has created an infinite number of universes.
Beyond that, they don't really have a clue either.
Okay.
They admit they don't know everything.
They just are more advanced than we technically, and they've learned answers to some questions, but not all of them.
They're still figuring things out, too.
They do want to make a point to us that, because of our limited technology and having not been able to roam the universe yet and figure things out, there is some confusion on our part about what God and what creational source is.
They're telling us that what gods are, gods are rulers or governors over a planet or a system of planets or groups of planets, that they are physical beings like ourselves, but far more advanced, who have gone through millions of lifetimes and have much greater knowledge than we do.
So we perceive them as gods because of their great knowledge.
But they don't create our spirits and they don't control our lives.
And from time to time, depending on who they are and what their agenda might be, some of these gods may rule over a planet like they have in the past on Earth and demanded worship and so forth for people to follow them.
But they wanted to make it clear that Earth is no longer, at the moment, is not ruled by a God, that we are free at this point to become responsible for ourselves.
It's kind of our time as a civilization to grow up, shake off the bonds of godship, I guess you might say, and realize our own potential and our connection to creation.
Creation, they say, is a spiritual source of energy that, as near as they can tell, created the universe and causes the evolution of the universe.
Actually, they have a fascinating way of letting people understanding what creation is.
And Billy was asking pretty much the same questions.
And it is a very difficult thing to understand since because of our limited knowledge of how things work.
They took Billy with them on one of their large craft.
And when they were having this discussion on the ship about what is a creation, they said the best way to understand it is to experience it yourself.
Quite frequently on the craft, they take children up in the ships, and they allow them to experience creation in a rather fascinating way.
Earlier, we talked about how the crafts can leave the three-dimensional reality art and change and convert themselves into fine matter.
What they do is they discovered that once the ship is converted into fine matter and you are outside of the three-dimensional reality, you're not in your physical body right then.
So you are, if you were in a craft and went with them for a ride, once you were outside of the three-dimensional reality, out of your physical body, you would only be existing then as a spirit form, or soul, some people call it.
Now when you are not in your physical body, when you are just a spirit or a soul again, then your spiritual senses kind of kick in, your spiritual consciousness and spiritual subconscious, and you are then aware of your attachment to creation.
In our physical bodies, we're so busy interacting with our physical senses, we don't pay attention to it, and most of us aren't even aware of what we can do with our spirit.
But let's say, Art, they took you up in that craft and you wanted to know about creation.
They then, what they do is this.
They take the ship, fly outside the solar system, accelerate it, move over into hyperspace or this fourth dimensional place, wherever it is they go.
You then would no longer be in your physical body.
Now normally these jumps into the other dimensions are instantaneous, so you come right back, and you're hardly even aware anything happened.
However, they can hold themselves for seven minutes outside of the physical reality, and then you would not be in your physical body, you would just be your spiritual self again, and for seven minutes you would be aware of your connection to creation.
And during that seven minutes, you would experience for yourself exactly your connection, what a creation is, and you would feel then exactly what's happening in there.
Billy says it happened to him.
He did it for seven minutes.
And what you experience to begin with, he says, is this very bright white light that we talked about once before.
The first thing you experience when the material body shuts down is your spiritual awareness immediately senses the spiritual energy, which first appears as the bright light.
And then you notice that you really don't have any eyes.
Your material body is gone.
And then he says the next feeling is this immense feeling that you are somehow encompassed and surrounded by this infinite love.
That all around you there is the feeling of an infinite number of other spirit forms like yourself who care greatly for you.
He says it is the most peaceful, wonderful feeling he's ever had.
And he says that to him was the most important part of all of his experience with ETs over the years, was being able for seven minutes to really experience what creation is.
Well, the Pleiadians are human just like us, still living in physical existence like we do.
You know, after a period of time, they say we reincarnate millions of times and eventually there's no need for the physical body and we move in or evolve into other states beyond that.
But they're still evolving just like we are and living in a physical world as we do.
They look like we do.
They're human.
They marry, have children just like we do.
But their world is quite different.
We wouldn't fly there, for instance, and see large cities and cars and neon signs and fast food.
Billy went there in 1984, was there for about three or four days.
And when he went there, he said the planet is similar to ours, which is one of the reasons they're so comfortable coming here, that it's primarily a water planet similar to ours.
Mountains, streams, grassy areas, and so forth, very comfortable there.
But they don't live in big cities like we do.
Instead, they live a far more spiritual existence where everybody's allowed their own space, their own path of discovery, and they live kind of quiet, peaceful lives almost like we did, you know, hundreds of years ago.
Yes, historically, he says they have records showing tens of thousands of years of their ancestors going through the cycles just like we are, where they had wars, they fought, they blew up planets, they destroyed themselves.
They went through all the same things that we've been doing until a certain point where a large enough number of their society gained in spiritual awareness strong enough that eventually the people that were seeking spiritual consciousness overcame the more material grounded people on the planet and they made a shift in their society.
They became a more spiritual society and laid down their guns and quit fighting, but it took a long time.
And they see us going through still a few cycles too before we get there.
And I think this is one of the reasons that they kind of observe us and don't want to get too involved.
Do we know, have any way of knowing how far along in that cycle we have come and how far we have to go before they consider us to be civilized by their standards?
I think, well, we might get an answer in that they said they thought it would be 300 to 500 years before they would open up any kind of public commerce with us before we might calm down enough where they would be willing to do that.
It is for us right now, but then on the other hand, that's pretty quick, really.
We're accelerating tremendously fast right now.
You know, look where we've come in 100 years.
And we're right on the verge now of joining up with the family of man throughout the universe and finding our place in things.
So, you know, for the next hundred years here on Earth are going to be tremendous.
You know, the history books that report this time period are going to look back 100 years, and we won't believe what life will be like on this planet, you know, down the road just 100 years.
I have a new book out on the market called The Pleiadian Mission, and I've been out doing bookstore talks and things, and that gets me in touch with a lot of people.
and I've been to England and talked to people about the crop circles.
What I'm seeing is that all over the place, there are people and groups of people having experiences with different ETs, and they are all relatively similar.
They're having them with groups of people who are learning to meditate, who are calm, who are seeking out spiritual answers, and they're finding ways to accelerate their consciousness, or I might say raise their consciousness through meditation.
And they're starting to receive visions, ideas.
Just recently, I was in Florida, where those new photos that you're looking at there were taken.
The group of people in Florida that are having contacts with the Pleiadians now are having an amazing time.
They are learning to meditate and push their minds to a certain point of spiritual awareness, and they're receiving images, pictures, and voices now from the ETs that are helping them learn.
And I hear this is happening in Seattle, Oregon, Texas, a lot of places I've been where I'm seeing the same thing happen.
And so for years we've always argued, you know, did he fake them?
Does he know something the rest of us don't know?
There hasn't been anybody else take those photos of those kinds of crafts to back up his claims.
And now, here in Florida, just a few months ago, while I'm down there giving the talk, a man comes forward and tells me that he's been having contact with the Pleiadians for 29 years, that his contacts have gone on for a long period of time.
All throughout the Meyer contacts, he was aware of it.
And he opens up his photo album and proceeds to start showing me some of his photos, some of which you've got there.
And I'm, again, kind of blown away because here, again, we've got photos of the same craft, the Pleiadian ships, the round saucer type, the small telemeter craft, even their time travel craft with its unusual edges and so forth around it.
As a matter of fact, because of our last show, I've had so many people ask me about the photos, and I'm just starting to get them together.
We're putting them on tape to make a new videotape.
And I've had quite a few people call me the last few days, and so I decided I made prints of quite a few of them.
I've got about 10 different ones laying here on the table of the new photos.
And for your audience tonight, anybody who'd like to have a collection of those before we get the tape out, if people want to get these photos, then I'm going to take the 10 photos that we've got and a short article about four or five pages about the contacts and how they were taken and make them available to people.
If they want to get a collection of them, they can call my 800 number and for $20, I'll send them a set of photos and an article about them and that they can get a set of their own photos before we get the tape out.
They can also, you know, they can get the book or the videotape.
But we'll get the pictures out to people, and they can send us a check or use their Visa or MasterCharge right there on the line, and we'll send them these photos.
And, you know, they can have a look at them before, because it's going to be a few months before we get a videotape together.
So any of our computer friends, because I want everybody to see them, anybody that's out there that's online can dial into the New Age forms in there and download the GIF file for themselves.
Monday being President's Day, it's a long holiday weekend ahead of us.
I'm Art Bell.
This is the largest live overnight talk program in America, and we are not doing what we usually do this morning.
My guest is Randolph Winters, and we're taking a hard turn away from the current events structure of the program, which is normal.
Actually, it's normal for us to take a turn away from it.
I've done that for years.
It drives some people crazy, and that's okay.
It's part of what I do.
And for those of you that cannot stomach or handle anything that you cannot understand, it would be a good time to tune out.
We're following the story of Billy Meyer.
It is one of the best documented UFO accounts in all history, in all of our recorded history, maybe even the best.
1,200 color photographs of ships that visited this young Swiss farmer over, actually over a great period of his life with a bit of an intermission in the formative years.
And now, all of a sudden, there's somebody or a group in Florida that are getting new photographs of the same ships, UFOs, flying saucers.
I've got brand new photographs in my hand, which Randolph Winters has just given us permission to publish in an upcoming newsletter.
How's that for a bit of documentation?
I think it was big of him to allow us to publish these, and so look for them in a future newsletter.
And we're going to find out about these new photographs, these incredible new photographs from Randolph Winters in just a moment.
I talked to my mom early.
We're about to get the lines open.
A little bit more information is what I want first from Randolph, and that's about these current photographs, the ones we are going to publish.
But then we're going to open up these lines and allow you to ask him questions about Billy Meyer, about the Billy Meyer story, about the new photographs, about the Pleiadian civilization, about anything related you would like.
Here are the numbers.
First-time callers to this program.
They call it Area Code 702-727-1222.
702-727-1222.
The wildcard direct dial lines are Area Code 702-727-1295.
702-727-1295.
The toll-free number for the West, if you're out west here, is 1-800-618-8255.
1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, anywhere back there, it's 1-800-825-5033.
Beam ships, and they're very exciting, as you can see, because it's the first time in 20 years we've had someone else take photos of these same crafts that Meyer did and really validate the fact that his photos were for real, and someone is actually coming here.
Actually, it just happened to me before Christmas.
I had, you know, as you know, I've got a book, The Pleiadian Mission, on the market, and I've been out doing some promotions and talks.
And I was in Florida giving a talk about the book, and a man came up to me afterwards, after the talk, a very nice fellow that had been sitting there throughout the talk.
And he proceeded to tell me that he'd been having contacts, and he had a surprise for me.
And I says, what's that?
And he says, do you remember about six years ago when you were visiting, that's me, over to Billy Meyer in Switzerland?
And I says, yeah, I was over there.
And he says, you were receiving some unusual dreams and visions, weren't you, when you were sleeping?
And I said, yes, I was.
There was a few occasions where things were happening that I didn't quite understand.
And I seemed to be hearing voices in my head directing me to learn what I can and keep on going.
And I said, what's the significance of that?
He says, well, I've been having contacts with the Pleiadians for almost 29 years.
And six years ago, they were asking him if he'd be willing to be a contactee and go forward into the public and talk about his experiences.
And he told them that he did not.
He did not want to get out into the public arena.
He was very leery at doing that.
And they told him at that time about me, that I was over there learning from Billy Meyer and that I lived on the West Coast, and that when the time was right, they would have him contact me to tell his story.
Now, he's telling me all this in the lobby of a hotel, and I'm sitting there listening very calmly to all of this.
And he's telling me how they've been listening to my thoughts and waiting six years for the right time.
And he said, he looks me squarely in the eye and says, the time is right.
They've decided to start a new series of contacts.
But 1995 is the year of change here on the planet.
It is the beginning of a new time period when natural disasters are going to increase to tremendous proportions.
And it will mark the beginning of a new era.
And they feel it's important that they start stimulating consciousness and educate people on how to live through this, not be fearful, and develop their own spiritual power.
Well, all I can tell you is that two weeks ago on the phone, the man in Florida told me he had just had a contact, and it was about that.
It wasn't about California, it was about Florida.
And he said that they wanted him to be aware of the increase in problems.
I asked him if there was any news about California, and he said at the time they didn't tell him anything, that there would be a major quake, several of them here in California, but it wasn't time for them yet.
And he was telling me about a hurricane that's going to hit down in Florida that they allowed him to see and envision.
And so I'm not sure what things that Gordon might have said.
I didn't hear the show, so I don't know what he was saying about the current things here in California, but we certainly are living on the edge of things.
But there's nothing from the Pleiadians at the moment to either validate that or not.
Yeah, he says there's a two-year time period that in approximately two years that one of the hurricanes is going to be so big in the Atlantic Ocean that a wall of water will wash totally over Florida and submerge it.
Yeah, he says there will be no more Florida in about two years.
The whole southern part of it is going to go underwater, and the wave of water will be so big and so fast that it'll sweep inland and rush all the way up through the eastern boundary coast of the United States and pretty much run the coastline.
Well, interestingly enough, Meyer said the same thing 20 years ago.
He was asking them about the future, and they told him the same thing, that by around the turn of the century that the hurricanes would increase tremendously and so would the earthquakes.
And now they seem to be stepping up the contact saying that 95 is the year we start really paying attention because they really step up.
Well, Gordon did make a prediction with regard to hurricanes in Florida and he's probably tuning in then because there are many people who have learned the ability through meditation to shift their consciousness into a neutral state and you can draw upon events from the past and the future.
It's rather a common technique taught to people, especially in the East, when they learn to meditate.
I know there's a lot more to tell, but there's a lot of people on the phones, too, that want to talk to you, and maybe they will draw us into some interesting directions.
So let's go to the phone lines and see what awaits.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Randolph Winters.
Close Encounters of the Third Kind was a very impressive movie that seemed to be one of the first of the genre that is sort of getting us accustomed to thinking about this whole topic.
Do you look at the current crop of motion pictures and television shows, X-Files, and all the rest of them the same way?
I think for years we've been slowly indoctrinated, and there has been an effort by certain parts of our government to encourage Steven Spielberg and others to do materials along the way to slowly wake people up and get them prepared.
A lot of the public's probably not aware that Close Encounters of the Third Kind was made twice.
That originally the script was entirely different.
It was about a family in Arkansas who was abducted.
And it was a very dramatic thing.
And as Stephen was going through his dailies, as the movie progressed, the time he got to end, it became too scary.
He thought it was too, you know, it would be too dark for people.
And they scrapped the whole project, threw the whole thing away, and went back and remade it.
And the beings that were depicted in there were more like the gray types from Zeta recticula, the non-human types, where the Pleiadians are human just like ourselves.
And for your caller In Alabama, there, Pleiadians would pass in a crowd.
We are the same genetic family they are, and we could see them on the street and probably not even notice them.
They look just like us, and emotionally, they're very similar.
He thinks his first lifetime was about 11,000 years back and has had many lifetimes as a capacity as a contactee.
In my book I've got out, The Pleiadian Mission, he told me that he was also Galileo and had lived that lifetime and had served that one function in trying to convince man as Galileo did that we were round and we were revolving around the sun.
So he believes that he's had many lifetimes in a similar capacity and he believes that he will have six more here on Earth and then he thinks that he will be returning to the planet that he came from.
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Okay, yeah, that was my question is would there have been anybody that we had heard of that he had existed as?
He'd mentioned a couple others which I didn't know about and he also mentioned that there was a connection somehow to Enoch, but he wasn't real clear what that was.
Most of his life he had been challenged by the Pleiadians to try to figure it out himself as kind of an exercise for his own spiritual development.
So they have not clarified or endorsed any of his discoveries one way or the other.
They're letting him figure it out.
But he feels strongly that he was Galileo and a couple of others, that this is not the Pleiadians telling him that.
They're just telling him that he's had them and they're challenging him to figure it out.
Not that we know of, except that the beans and the Roswell incident, which we now call grays and are from a binary star system called Zeta Recticuli, are on kind of an open commerce basis with the Pleiadians, meaning that they get along, they share facilities.
We're learning now through these new contacts that the Pleiadians have a couple of bases here in the United States, which are only for themselves, that share a base, an undersea base off the coast of Puerto Rico with the Grays.
So they're aware of them, work with them, and seem to get along.
But the Pleiadians themselves had nothing to do with the incident in Roswell.
That was the ships of the crash were just the ships of the Grays.
If they're Pleiadians, they haven't admitted it because the Nordics, the so-called Nordics, these tall blondes that have been associated with the Greys on several occasions, have been mentioned by any number of people who've had abduction cases.
But we don't know, we don't have any evidence yet to say that they're Pleiadians, but they seem to look and act the same.
So it might be of the same family chain someplace.
The creational source that creates a universe is going through its own evolution, and it creates a universe to do that, and we are part of that evolution.
So here on Earth, which is one of the planets that has evolved to be a kind of planet where human life is possible, there are bands of energy around the planet, different ones.
And one of those bands of energy contains the energy, the spiritual energy that creates new life forms.
So if we get overpopulated here and more or less kind of run out of spirit forms, you know, everybody's in body at the same time, then the creational source allows for new spirits to come into life.
And what happens is there's a problem, and this is going on on Earth, by the way, right now, if a new spirit comes into life, it has not lived any lifetimes yet, has no accumulated wisdom with it, and frankly doesn't even know how to control the body that it's in.
And in many cases, these are the people we describe as mentally ill or unable to even control their own bodies.
And we look at them as mental illness, and in many cases, they say these are just young or new spirits which are brought into material bodies That are too old for them to handle and they can't cope.
All right, Randolph, we're at the bottom of the hour.
That sounds like a good breakpoint.
Stay right there, and we'll come right back to you into telephone calls now with my guest, Randolph Winters.
He's here talking about the Pleiadians and Billy Meyer and the new photographs of beam chips, which I have in my hot little palm and which we will be publishing.
This is CBC.
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From the Kingdom of Mars, this is Coast A Ghost AM with Art Bell on the CBC Radio Network.
For those of you sitting out there this morning going, oh, come on, what a bunch of junk?
Maybe.
I have no way of knowing.
I do know the photographs that I hold in my hand are very, very, very, very impressive.
And we will be publishing these.
These are the latest Pleiadian ship photographs.
They are the same ships photographed by Billy Meyer in one of the best documented UFO cases in all of history.
We are deviating from our normal discussion of current events this morning, and I do that every now and then on this program because one does not live by current events alone.
After Fate 6-4.
Okay, this is current, so I feel I should get it on the air.
It just came in by facts from Tom and Kathy in Pollock Pines, California.
Dear Art, at approximately 1 a.m. Pacific time, that would have been about 38 minutes ago, I was outside and saw what appears, yes, appears to be, and it's still there, a gold star in the sky.
I'm very near Lake Tahoe, and to me, looking straight up, it's southwest.
A friend of mine says it's moving.
We've been watching it for the last 10 minutes, looking at it with binoculars.
It has a very bright white light surrounding it.
If you look straight up and just look around, you can't miss it.
It's very bright, gold-colored.
Great show.
Kathy, thought that would get that on the air for any of you who happen to feel like wandering out and taking a look who are in the area.
All right, back now to Randolph Winters and your calls.
You know our number.
If you want to get through, pick up a telephone and participate.
Well, I don't blame them for saying that, you know, because the thing is that the path that I've gone down and the things I've been exposed to has been over a several year period.
I would have thought pretty much the same thing 10, 15 years ago.
And we are on the verge of discovering a whole new kind of reality on this planet.
And people just have to go out and if they're interested, go out and get involved, listen to shows like yours and read some books, and they'll find out that there really are a lot of things going on.
But we all have to find truth for ourselves.
So it's a good time to open our minds up, be a little patient, and don't accept things blindly.
But on the other hand, go out and be inquisitive.
And you will find that there's a lot of activity going on around the world.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to be in Wichita Saturday, March 4th, doing a little talk there in Wichita.
So maybe I'll see Vinny there.
I'm not sure.
The Greys, yeah, we first came in contact with them in 1947.
As far as we know, the Roswell case was the first indication.
And originally we called them EVs.
That was the military designation for them.
They were called extraterrestrial biological entities.
And over a series of years, because of their skin color, we've come to call them Greys.
Some is known about them.
In one of the crashes, one of the bodies was alive.
And it was taken to an Air Force base in New Mexico where they tried to examine the body because it seemed to be unhealthy.
The poor little creature was seen to be dying, and they didn't know how to take care of him because their anatomy is entirely different than ours.
They're not human as we are.
And so there was no heart, lungs, and internal organs for them to examine and no blood for a doctor to figure out what the heck was happening to this poor little creature.
Eventually they called in a snake doctor, literally, and his name was Garcia.
And this creature from this little gray or Eebie took a liking to Dr. Garcia and started communicating with him telepathically.
And because of that, he lived for about a year, by the way.
And because of that, some knowledge was gained about their race and who they are and why they were coming from here.
And a book was put together that's kept, of course, by the military.
And the code name for that information, that book, is called The Yellow Pages, which I thought was kind of cute.
Yeah, a very fascinating little book, and it gets us back to the Pleiadian information.
Among the things that Meyer was asking the Pleiadians, of course, was about God and Jesus and what information they may have on that.
And The Talmud of Emmanuel is the translation of some Aramaic scrolls that the Pleiadians caused to be dug up in 1963.
They say these were among the original writings of Emmanuel, known to the rest of us as Jesus, during his lifetime while he was still alive.
Actual writings that he wrote and that had been buried, and they led a Greek Orthodox minister to dig them up.
He translated them from Aramaic into Greek.
They eventually made their way into German, and now they're available in English in this little book called The Talmud of Emmanuel.
It's pretty hard to get a hold of.
I've got some copies here.
If anybody wants to, then call the 800 number and I'll shoot them out one.
But the book is a translation of those Aramaic scrolls and has, after scrutiny by Christian historians, believed that it is the original writings of Emmanuel before he passed away.
So it's a pretty interesting little book, and for anybody who wants to follow that path, give me a ring and I'll shoot a book off to you.
As a matter of fact, when going over there, I made three trips over there over a three-year period to stay for several months each time to learn what I could.
And it was just from my own path.
And getting involved with the group over there, I became a member and finally caught myself getting caught up in member stuff, you know, only being able to do this, only being able to talk about Billy material.
And so I quit.
And I'm not a follower type.
I'm not much for one to get into groups in that kind of closed-minded situation.
So once I quit the group, which was in 90, that kind of cut me off from privileged information from the group.
I'll tell you what I'm convinced of, pretty much convinced.
When I was traveling over to Myers, I was never convinced that it was real 100%.
I was always trying to keep about 10, 20% of my mind open to another solution, another possibility.
And I was never convinced that they were from the Pleiades.
It always occurred to me there might be other societies here on Earth that had disliked this, that might be wanting to call themselves ETs, and maybe there was another answer to all of this.
So I've kept my mind open to it, and I've closed the gap, I guess you might say, recently by virtue of the new contacts that are happening now.
Same craft, same photos, new information, which to me really validates the fact that they're real, it's happening.
I still have a few doubts in my mind about who's in those ships and really who they may be, but I'd say I'm close to 99% convinced it's all happening.
And I want to ask Mr. Winters about something I saw on the sightings television program a while ago.
It was videotapes taken, I think, in the late 80s at an air show in Mexico City, and it was different angles of one craft taking for like different distances from Mexico City during an air show.
And I was wondering if those could be Pleiadian beams, if he's familiar with that.
Yes, there are some Pleiadian crafts currently even being videotaped down in Mexico, primarily over Mexico City and then east of there towards Puebla.
There are people all throughout that area getting lots of videotape, I mean hundreds of them, of the Pleiadian craft, of the gray ships, and some ships we can't identify.
We're getting kind of used to seeing the Pleiadian ships so we can spot them.
But the gray ships seem to be different shapes and different design.
But for the most part, there are grays and Pleiadians down there in Mexico allowing their ships to be photographed again.
There's even some of the triangle, the delta-shaped craft floating over the volcanoes down there, which the Greys have admitted they designed and built.
Well, I know that, you know, in your neck of the woods out there, we've got Dreamland, and we are experimenting with some things, and I don't know the shape of the Aurora and the craft that we're playing with.
It had two white lights on the back of the triangle as it progressed from the rear, actually coming from an easterly direction to a westerly direction, roughly.
And a strobing red light in the front.
It made no noise.
It was utterly silent, and it was not flying.
I was in the Air Force.
I know flying.
I know aerodynamics.
It was floating, and it raised the hair on the back of my neck.
But I did.
It's my one big sighting.
It was about a year and a half ago.
And as I said, I'd swear in a stack of Bibles about what I saw.
We were talking a moment ago about truth to all of this, and I think one thing we should tell all of our listeners: there are many things flying in the sky these days, some hour, some there, some unknown.
But yeah, our skies are filled with all sorts of technologies, and we're about to have a big awakening.
At any rate, she said that she has information that the U.S. government is now experimenting with a craft that has the ability to modify light emissions much the way they have been able to do sound cancellation.
In other words, sound 180 degrees out of phase that will then cause you to hear no sound at all.
And that I know has been done.
But she's saying that they're now experimenting with visual technology that will affect your eye just the way sound cancellation does, but with visual frequencies, and that that accounts for the craft that are seen almost blinking in and out of physical existence.
The Pleiadians have commented that there are good and bad all over the place out there.
Some of these races are quite barbaric, come by here occasionally, do take people, and they do afford us a certain measure of protection from that element and have for quite a period of time.
And that's one of the things that concerns them, that this protection they afford us will cease once we have the technical ability to leave our own solar system.
And they are kind of concerned that, you know, who we're going to align ourselves with and how we're going to take care of ourselves.
They say they have sensing devices all over the place around the planet.
When any crafts come in, the crafts are warned that they and their technology are here and to leave us alone.
And that helps in most cases, but they say not everybody pays attention, and occasionally some crafts do get in, and there are some very barbaric types out there.
As far as the ones that we know about, I can tell you this, that White Sands, New Mexico, forgot the year, I think it's 51 or 52, a man I know was working his job at CIA headquarters in Washington, D.C. His job was to receive emergency phone calls from Air Force bases.
Picks up the phone one night and he's getting a call from a base in New Mexico that there is a disc on the ground.
It has not exploded.
It's intact.
It's sitting on the ground somewhere out of New Mexico.
What should they do?
He turns to the general at the Pentagon who gives him his commands.
And the general tells him the commands to give back to this field crew out of New Mexico.
He's a liaison between Washington and this crew.
He's then told by his general to get on a plane and get out there and see what's going on.
When he arrives, there's a disc setting there on the ground.
It's 99 feet in diameter.
The military, of course, is there.
Hundreds of them are surrounding the things.
For hours, they've been trying to get it open, get into it, get something done.
They can't get into it.
They're working with torches and all sorts of equipment.
This is the early 50s now.
Eventually, after a few hours, a hatch or doorway opens in the side of the thing.
Frightens them all to death.
They're scared to death to go in.
A few young men are told to grab their guns and march inside.
When they get inside of the thing, they find that there are small dead bodies laying on the floor about four feet long that look slightly reptilian.
They are not human like us.
They have skin much like a lizard, something like that.
It goes all the way up their back.
On the top of their head, there's kind of a reptilian sort of ridge.
Their faces are kind of reptilian looking.
They have small claw-like hands with three claws, small tail about six inches long.
And then the most disturbing thing of all happens as they're investigating the ship, they pull a door open on what looks like a room, and inside of the room are human body parts, arms, legs, and so forth, all in pieces.
It was either sightings or 2020 or a fairly legitimate media source about the now open Russian files, Randolph.
There was a ship that appeared over a Russian missile silo.
The ship hovered over the silo for a period of time, and the missile, the nuclear device inside The missile itself activated and began a launch sequence.
I saw this myself.
I saw this story, and this is legitimate Russian reporting.
And apparently they have photographs of the disk that hovered, and they have very careful records because they keep very, very careful controls over nuclear missiles in Russia.
It's a very centralized control.
It's very much unlike our system.
And it scared the you-know-what out of them.
And on hearing the report myself as well.
Now, that is not a friendly thing to do, Randolph.
But I believe that after the incident, the Russians tore apart all the control panels, all of the launch sequence computers, and found absolutely, of course, nothing.
And it looked kind of like a shooting star going backwards when I first saw it.
And a craft come flying up over the horizon and shot up over the farmhouse, slowed down, and just kind of spun around there for a couple seconds and then shot off.
I went there out of personal interest, and I'd say it's changed my life a lot.
I mean, it's certainly increased the size of the world that I live in.
It changes your thinking.
And then after I spent a lot of time with him and started reading and listening to all the things that he had learned about history and science and other things, yeah, it really broadens your horizons and changes the way that you think.
But I think more than anything else, the biggest impact has been just sharing it with other people and what it does to learn so much and to talk to many people.
After I got to know him, and like I mentioned, it was just my own personal quest to begin with.
I wasn't an investigator and I wasn't out to tell the world all about it or anything.
I went there out of my own curiosity.
But when I got home, and I live in the L.A. area, when I got back, a lot of my friends wanted to hear about what happened and see some of the photos, curiosity.
So I says, well, sure, come on over Sunday and bring anybody who's interested and I'll show you the photos and tell you what I've learned so far.
So Sunday afternoon came and I ran down the market, I think, and got a couple of bottles of soda and some chips or something, expecting, you know, a half a dozen people.
People started showing up.
They kept showing up.
Pretty soon we had hundreds of people up and down the street.
The police came to see what was going on.
There was a lot of people interested.
And I couldn't, of course, couldn't get them all to leave them a house.
So I says, well, I think we're going to have to rent a hall.
And so the next week I rented, I think it was called the Woman's Club, something like that, a local hall in our community there.
And about 400 or 500 people showed up to hear about this.
Well, one thing led to another, and I was asked if I'd come back the next week, and more people showed up.
And that just kept on going on.
People were showing up every week wanting to hear about this, and I found myself in kind of a unique position.
So I changed my life a lot over the years just, you know, falling into that situation.
And then realizing there was so much to be learned from these people from other worlds, I finally just wrote a book all about it.
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All right.
I tell you what, can we put you on hold a second we're going to come back and talk more with you in a minute we need to take care of some business Randy Winters the author of a book called the Pleiadian Mission and his visit to Switzerland to talk to this man who has been supposedly communicating with extraterrestrials for many many years he's coming to Pekin is why we're talking with Randy he's going to be in Pekin Saturday night and we'll tell you where and when and how all those details coming up after Rush Limbaugh on Trump 102 it
is 726 it's 34 degrees our next news coming up in less than 20 minutes the first more of the batten experience on talk 102 see I like the I like this kind of music and I like to hear that the aliens that have visited Mr. Meyer over there in Switzerland that he's a calm human being I would hate to think that they would cause us to be like all jumpy freaking out he's at peace with himself Randy
Yeah, the Pleiadian Mission, the book concerns itself really with these beings, who they are, and why they came here.
I think the book is mostly kind of a spiritual experience because it definitely changes your consciousness even to read it and to experience what's in there.
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Why are they here?
Why are they visiting us according to Billy and you and all your research?
Well, as we're finding out, they've been here a long time.
Apparently they've been kind of keeping an eye on our civilization for thousands of years, but mostly as observers.
They felt the last hundred years or so that it seems to be important that they try to get a little involved with us.
I think they're really trying to just kind of help us out a little bit.
They see all the problems we're having and they've tried to find a way perhaps to lend us a hand without getting involved.
They, as individuals, seem to have a personal code that doesn't allow them to get involved in our decision making.
They don't want to impede upon our right or free will, but yet they seem to be trying to find a way to kind of help us out a little bit.
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Now, Randy, there's been so many hundreds and thousands of reports of people who claim to have alien encounters.
Now, we know all of them aren't true, but let's say that some of them are true.
If there are people from other planets or solar systems or galaxies that have the capability to come here, why hasn't, say, a race of a certain alien race, a maybe not so nice alien race, whose intention was basically just to overtake the Earth and to rule the Earth, why haven't we had them show up?
It has happened a little bit, but things like that generally don't make the news because the military gets involved and, of course, they don't want to cause panic.
But I can tell you there are races that come here that are quite barbaric, and fortunately for us, the Pleiadians, which are human just like us, they look just like we are, no difference.
They afford us a certain measure of protection, but they tell us on occasion every now and then that races do come by here, which are quite savage and barbaric.
Occasionally do it, people take them and probably would try to take the planet over if we weren't protected a little bit.
I can tell you from secondhand experience, a friend of mine who is in the CIA told me that just a few years ago they had a report came in that there was a down saucer in New Mexico.
It was his job.
He was in Washington, D.C., and he was the man who answered the phone when an Air Force base called with an emergency situation.
It was his job to turn he was in the Pentagon.
It was his job to give the information to the people there to make the decisions on what to do.
So a call came in that a craft was down and that the military had surrounded it and they wanted to know what to do.
So he sent information back to them to try to get the thing open, and this went on for several hours.
And after a few hours of this, he was told to get on a plane and get out to New Mexico and see firsthand for himself what was going on.
Well, when he got out there, the military, they had surrounded the craft, could not get it open so far.
They had been trying torches and everything they could.
The disk was about 99 feet in diameter.
It did not crash.
It apparently just sat down on the ground and had been sitting there for hours.
Well, it took them several hours trying to get into the thing, and all of a sudden, a hatchway just opened up.
And when they went inside, they found that the occupants, the people who had been flying it, weren't people at all.
They were small, four-foot tall little beings that actually had kind of reptilian, scaly kind of skin.
Very ugly little creatures with short tails and hands were kind of like claws.
As they were examining the craft, they found a room.
When they opened up one of the rooms in the craft, they found human body parts, which scared them to death.
And apparently, they discovered a race of people, reptilian, that whatever they were doing with the human body parts, they had ripped them all to pieces.
They didn't know if they had been eating them, tore them up, or what had caused it.
But we've had some contact with this race.
Some people call them draconians.
Some people call them dracos.
We don't know the exact name that the military has given to them, but these beings do come here occasionally and are apparently quite harmful to us.
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Okay, so my question is why doesn't if enough of this information is out there to detail it in that much detail, why doesn't the government or the military just come out and say, "Alright, yeah, okay, we have had encounters.
Here's the situation.
There's nothing to panic about." Or maybe there is something to panic about.
Well, we don't know for sure, but you must remember that this started 40, 50 years ago when we had our first contacts with ETs and the military first became aware of it.
And originally, the crash ships that came down in Roswell, New Mexico back in'47 was our first kind of military encounter with this.
And they didn't realize it was even going to continue.
So at first it was thought of, you know, this is an isolated incident.
Then it happened a couple of times again.
And as the military does, of course, their first idea was, well, you know, what are the military uh situation here they were interested in trying to learn something uh and were faced with the problem of trying to defend the country it was thought back then that this was probably just a you know a strange accident that may never happen again.
And when it continued, the military got preoccupied with trying to learn something, to gain weaponry, to try to find something out about it.
And at the time, it was thought it was best to keep it from the public because they didn't know what to do.
And then over the years, this kind of got out of hand.
And now the military is aware that most of the major governments on Earth have had some sort of contact with ETs at different levels.
And there's kind of a scramble going on the past few years at trying to learn and develop technology from the ETs, not only to defend ourselves, but to defend ourselves from different countries here, even on Earth.
So there's a real race going on, a technical race, at trying to learn and develop weapons from the extraterrestrial information.
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Man.
I got to ask you this question, Randy.
Did anybody go off to you and say, Randy, this is just goofy, and I absolutely don't believe you, and I think you ought to seek some help.
No, I mean, you're a very reasonable man.
You have a software company.
You haven't been doing this for very long.
I mean, this is not some possession.
Some people get into a subject, and that's all they ever think about.
You don't impress me as being that kind of a person.
No, and you have to keep kind of an open mind because as you get more into this, I've gone to conferences and you meet people and I've had the military at my house and I've gone to the FBI and given talks.
So one thing kind of leads to another and you get exposed to a lot of things which seem incredible.
And I would only say to people out there, just go slow, listen carefully, and keep an open mind.
But don't believe everything that you hear.
We are going to go through some major changes historically here in our civilization soon because I think we're only a short period away from the whole extraterrestrial thing going public as you talked about.
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That's because Geraldo's going to get a hold of it and that's all over.
But there are a lot of strange things going on and we don't know all the answers.
Even the situation with Meyer.
Now, this is the most dramatic UFO case we've ever had as far as proofs, evidence, and photos.
But still, we don't know who exactly is in those craft and what's going on.
So far, they're telling us they're from the Pleiades, and they fly in magnetic craft, and that we know for sure now.
But that doesn't mean they're from the Pleiades.
It just means somebody's flying around a magnetic craft claiming they are.
So there's still a mystery to be solved here, and we have a lot more to learn.
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There's one thing that I want to ask you.
I heard you talking the other day on the Art Bell program about when Neil Armstrong was on the moon, that he was out of the craft, on the moon, but then he saw some flying disks, and then he jumped back in the craft and called back to ground control.
Now, I've heard a similar story to this.
I want to know if you've heard of this, and if you know a little bit of the background.
It was one of the Apollo missions.
They were in space, roughly halfway in between the Earth and the moon.
And this was a satellite broadcast I heard, which is supposedly of an astronaut calling back to Houston.
And the basic, the kind of general transmission was, ground control, this is Apollo.
We have a bogey at 12 o'clock.
NASA, come again, we have a bogey at 12 o'clock.
It's been following us for 20 minutes and we can't shake it.
And then they switched over to a protected channel.
Now, my question is, have you heard of this before?
And number one, is it legitimate?
Is this a legitimate transmission that was recorded by someone overhearing that channel?
In private circles, if you talk to the astronauts, you'll find almost every Apollo mission was followed.
I think, I don't remember how many astronauts there's been, but there are 29 or something like that, that quite a few of them have issued reports and or written books later on claiming sightings of some kind.
So it seems like most of our Apollo missions, and I'm not talking about where they met ETs or something.
Mostly they've seen lights, something they can't explain, or the craft has been followed, you know, by some object that they don't understand.
But yeah, I think they've been watching them pretty close.
unidentified
All right, Randy, we're out of time, but to tell folks more, you are going to be Saturday night at the Elks Club in Pekin, 6 p.m.
Yeah, actually, we didn't have too much time today, but there are some new photos just taken recently here in America.
There's another gentleman having contacts, and we'll be showing those.
And by the way, for those listeners out there that don't have a chance to get out to the Elks, I've got an 800 number, and people could call and get some information on the books.
And I'm actually selling some of the new photos so people can get them.