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Feb. 5, 1995 - Art Bell

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Dreamland with Art Bell - Prophecies & Predictions - Sean David Morton

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Experience not easily nor neatly put in a box.
		Things seen at the edge of vision, awakening a part of the mind as yet not mapped.
		And yet things every bit as real as the air we breathe but don't see.
		This is Dreamland.
		This is Dreamland Sunday evening once again, and we'd like to welcome KMJ and Fresno.
		KMJ Radio in Fresno, 580 on the dial and a monster with a signal all over the place.
		Welcome to Dreamland.
		I'm Art Bell, and we're going to have a bit of a change up this evening.
		Linda Howe, normally here at the top of the program, may or may not be with us nigh on to about the middle of the program.
		She just landed in Philadelphia, back home again from Puerto Rico.
		And so she's got to make it home and get in position before she can report.
		It'll be interesting to see how the rest of Puerto Rico went.
		In the meantime, with us this evening is Sean David Morton, a very popular guest on the program.
		And it's been some time since Sean has been here.
		Just in a brief bio sketch, he's got a BA in political science, 16 units shy, I guess, of a degree in organic chemistry as well.
		A Bachelor of Fine Arts in Drama.
		Attended the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Arts for an advanced degree in drama.
		The British University of Cairo in Egypt spent a year studying Arabic, Egyptology, and Middle Eastern political science.
		A post-doctorate degree in theology.
		Lived in a Tibetan monastery at the foot of Mount Everest for seven months.
		Studied Buddhism.
		And has a fairly extensive television and, of course, here in other locations, radio background.
		So that's Sean David Morton.
		And Sean will comment in areas, for example, things connected to UFOs.
		Sean has done for some time predictions of which his record looks pretty good.
		The Northridge quake, epicenter, magnitude, date missed by 10 days.
		The Malibu fires, the flooding in Texas and Georgia, the election of Bill Clinton by the exact percent, the re-entry of Ross Perot into the presidential race, the 1989 San Francisco quake, and the 1992 Landers 7.6 quake.
		So that's not at all a bad record.
		And in just a moment, Sean David Morton.
		Psychic cooperation for these predictions or not, but he's talked about a nine-point earthquake in Southern California.
		He's talked about a nine-point earthquake along the New Madrid Fault in the center of the country.
		And I guess I'd just like to ask, are you getting any of those vibes?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		No, sir, I'm not.
		I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Scallion.
		I think he's a pioneer in a lot of different ways.
		His Earth Changes Report newsletter is certainly a very worthy publication.
		I think that Gordon is a very, very gifted psychic.
		He's had some spectacular successes when it comes to predicting very specific quakes.
		However, Gordon in his newsletters, and we do actually trade newsletters back and forth, has been talking about a 9-plus mega quake in Southern California since May of 1993.
		And it has yet to materialize.
		Not only myself, with the Delphi Associates as somebody who does meditations and is sensitive to these types of quakes, but also a network of people that I have contact with, which is why I call it the Delphi Associates, is because we try to work with a group of people and can get as much of a consensus as possible as far as these types of earth changes.
		If it was going to happen anytime soon, a quake of that magnitude, we would certainly be feeling it.
		I have never seen that kind of quake for the Southern California area.
		I do believe that the major quakes, in other words, quakes that could actually destroy entire cities or take out economic centers, are going to begin to occur in 1996, in the beginning part of 1996.
		And I've always contended that I've seen a substantial San Francisco quake that starts about 150 to 200 miles south of San Francisco and then moves up and destroys a pretty substantial portion of San Francisco, but not until 96.
		Now what I am picking up, and I made these predictions on the NBC program the other side a few weeks back, is that I was getting specifically that there were, that much of California specifically right now is very, very hot.
		I feel that there is a substantial heat in between the Palm Springs, in a triangle of land, between Palm Springs, San Bernardino, and Barstow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is the area that Scallion's talking about.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I'm picking up is that I'm picking up a series of quakes in that area around February 16th, 17th, 18th, or 19th that week.
		And then about the first week in March, epicentered, I'd say, plus or minus five days of around the 6th of March.
		What I'm getting is a substantial series of quakes, not only in that area, but also north in the Lancaster area, also in the Vallejo area in a triangle between Vallejo, Concord, and Napa up in northern California.
		I'm also picking up Reading and in the central part of California, in the central northern part of California.
		Reading and Mount Sasta are also very warm for quakes right now.
		Now, the February quake, and you can also see how the weather in California right now is gearing up for a substantial quake, but I do not think that the quake will be greater than a 7, even though that is a pretty big quake.
		But we have weathered quakes of 7.6 and greater in that particular area.
		If you remember the Landers quake of 1992.
		The way the weather is acting up is you have a specific pattern that's also kicking in.
		We've had substantial quakes in the Eureka area directly off the coast of Northern California where you've got a number of quakes that come together, the top part of the San Andreas, the Mendocino Fault, and usually whenever you have big quakes in Eureka, you have a pattern that occurs where between 60 and 90 days, you usually have substantive quake activity in Southern California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sean, how are you relating the weather patterns to earthquakes?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Specifically because in Southern California, it being a desert, I've simply noticed from living here that the pattern is, is that you will get, we've just had the massive rains, which have, of course, soaked into the ground.
		We're now having a very unusual heat wave, which is beginning to dry everything out.
		And at the same time, when it's very hot during the day and very cold at night, the land masses are actually expanding and contracting, which makes them very, very susceptible to various types of lunar movement, full moons, new moons, astronomical alignments of planets that pull on the gravity of the Earth.
		And specifically, that particular area, that's what I'm picking up when I do my meditations in front of the map.
		That triangle near Palm Springs, San Bergadino, and up to Barstow is particularly active as far as the fault lines go.
		It's still reacting from the Landersquake back in 1992.
		And that area of the desert, even though it also got a great deal of rain, is actually expanding and contracting with the very hot days and the very cold nights.
		And of course, the water drying out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say that you do meditations before a map, I take it that's how you divine geologic problems.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I get a map of the United States and also specifically a map of California.
		There's a specific Tibetan meditation that I do that I was taught in the monastery in Nepal where one becomes sensitive to the planet and by focusing in on where energy is beginning to erupt from out of the planet, I get very specific visions of things as they occur.
		And they're not limited to geological visions.
		They're also limited to political predictions and visions of things that go on across the country that are affecting large masses of people, like economic collapses, assassinations, deaths of world leaders, etc., etc.
		So in this case, as I said, I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Scallion, and I don't want to sound as if I don't.
		we sort of agree to disagree.
		It is, as I said, my belief...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Both of you were saying California is very, very hot right now.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yes, in those specific locations that I was just talking about.
		And I do believe that there are going to be a series of quakes that will occur, that will actually begin in 1996.
		There will be a quake, as I said, substantial quake activity late February, the early part of March, both in Southern California and in the Vallejo area, just north of San Francisco.
		But I don't think anything greater than a seven.
		And I do think that they're going to be epicentered well outside of the cities.
		It is also my belief that there has been a spiritual veil of protection that has been thrown over California, specifically because of the fact that there is a great deal of spiritual development that is going on here, a great deal of political activism.
		And the whole point of making predictions like this is to warn people in advance so that they can do the proper prayer and meditation that can actually avert many of these catastrophes from occurring in advance.
		The whole point of this type of earthquake prediction is that people have a tendency to gather and build cities upon planetary ley lines or dragon lines, if you will, lines of force.
		And as this energy begins to rise up out of the planet, depending on how people process the energy through their own bodies and process it properly through prayer, meditation, brotherhood, love, community, and all of the positive aspects, that energy then moves through them and creates a benefit in the planet around them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You called it a spiritual veil of protection.
		What power is this, Sean?
		Where does it come from?
		It comes from the people you're seeing.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		I think it comes from the people themselves.
		I think enough of the people themselves are starting to behave in the proper manner that they have created what I call biorelativity.
		And there is not a single religion on earth, not Buddhism, not Baha'i, not Islam, not Judaism, not original Christianity, that does not believe in what's called a biorelative aspect.
		That the way in which you behave in a certain moral fashion, in a certain honorable fashion, in a certain aspect of your own happiness and your own peace, has a great deal to do with what occurs in the planet around you, and that human beings are very much an interconnected part of that ecosystem, that biosphere, if you will, that is a biorelative aspect of how human beings interact not only with each other, but also interact with the land.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a kind of a spiritual collectiveness.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		What about how individuals affect themselves?
		Do they have the power, for example, to control their own health?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		100%.
		You see, as a matter of fact, most diseases and maladies have a great deal to do with the fact that people are not participating in life, and that health is an aspect of participation.
		And that when they participate in their lives and also with the lives of others, that's an aspect of health.
		When you love what you do, you rarely get sick.
		When was the last time you had the flu, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's been quite a while.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because you love what you do.
		You really enjoy what you're doing.
		But people agree.
		I'm sorry?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do agree.
		I think it bears on your general health.
		What about specifically?
		I mean, if somebody, for example, comes down with cancer.
		I had a very good friend who did.
		And he gave up everything he was doing, moved up into the high mountains near Santa Cruz, California, meditated, ate well, went on special diets, did all kinds of things, and I'll be damned if he didn't come clear of cancer.
		And they gave him no chance to do that.
		So that's kind of why I asked the question.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's that change of attitude that is actually taking energy that manifests itself around the individual spiritually and then will metastasize as various types of diseases, Cancer being the specific aspect of that, because everything starts in the auric field first, works its way inward, and then metastasizes itself as a reaction to a particular emotion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the auric field?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		The auric field is simply an energy field, a spiritual field that surrounds the body.
		Every living organism actually gives off a field of energy.
		We have, on the very outer plane, we have the causal field, and then you can work your way into what's called the etheric body, the spiritual body, the astral body, and then of course the mental and emotional bodies, which are much closer to the person themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold on just one moment.
		We'll be right back to you.
		My guest is Sean David Morton.
		He'll be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		With what time we have to the bottom of the hour, Sean, if you would update us.
		We'll kind of skip around here.
		Update us on the UFO community.
		What's going on?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's happening at the moment, and I assume that this is one of the things that Linda Howe is going to be talking about in the next hour or so, there was quite a big flap going on down in Puerto Rico specifically about an alien body that was supposedly found down there.
		I do have a report that if your listeners are interesting in picking it up for me, it was written by Jorge Martín, who's the editor of Ovni magazine down there.
		And in this report, it's about a 30-page report that's got actual photographs of this body.
		It's got some 22 different types of photographs.
		It's very, very unusual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it you've seen them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you describe this alien body?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		It's approximately between 18 and 24 inches tall.
		Let me see.
		Sorry.
		Do you say specifically it's got the report here in front of me?
		22 inches tall.
		It has a very large skull.
		It has no ears.
		In other words, slits or apertures on the side.
		Very long arms with extended forearms.
		Four fingers with an opposable thumb.
		A webbing inside and in between the fingers itself.
		The skull is very large.
		The skin is sort of a mottled grayish color with very, very large, large occipital eye holes.
		No teeth with very hard gums.
		Very small mouth.
		And the case was interesting because it was supposedly a young man who was in the military who was actually hiking in the woods outside of the capital city of Puerto Rico.
		And according to the story, and it's actually funny the way it's told, he claims that a group of these beings actually came out from underground from a cave, in other words, a group of about 20 of these things, knocked him down, and were dragging him through the woods, dragging him towards this cave, this underground passage.
		He apparently woke up during the middle of the abduction, managed to grab onto a tree, pulled a branch off the tree, and then turned around and whacked one of these things in the head and managed to fight off the rest of them, and apparently they ran back underground.
		Now, he then takes this body, puts it in a carton or a drum of formahol at his home, and then over the next two weeks or so had claims that he had to defend his home with a shotgun, that these beings were trying to actually break back into his house and try to get this creature back.
		And so the body then went from hand to hand, being passed to different neighbors and eventually supposedly now is in the hands of a Puerto Rican police officer down there.
		And the goal here is, and this is why I'm interested to hear what Linda Howe has to say if she's been down here, the goal is that myself and another gentleman named Michael Hesselman, we're going to go down, get in contact with the people that we knew that had possession of this thing, try to get a piece or a slice of skin or bone from this creature to see if we could have the RNA DNA analyzed both here in the United States and also in Germany, and see what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How good is the photograph?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		They're excellent.
		As a matter of fact, I'll mail you a report if your listeners are interested in getting a report.
		Basically, I think $10 just covers my printing for the report, printing and postage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we will get the address on.
		We're here at the bottom of the hour.
		Sean, stand by.
		And we'll see what we can do about getting photographs of this creature.
		Fascinating.
		Puerto Rico, huh?
		All right, we're going to pause here at the bottom of the hour.
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		Fascinating about Puerto Rico, there sure have been a lot of rumors coming out of Puerto Rico.
		A lot of strange things going on in Puerto Rico and elsewhere in the world where currencies have been not exactly stable.
		Mexican currencies.
		John David Morton is the president and founder of Prophecy Research Institute.
		He has penned a couple of books, one called The Millennium Factor and the other The Gulf Breeze Prophecies.
		And he now has a newsletter called the Delphi Associates Newsletter.
		And we were kind of on that when we left the bottom of the hour.
		Sean, are you there?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you've got a newsletter, and I'm sure you would like to tell people how to get it.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First, tell us what's in your newsletter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What kind of stuff is in there?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Specifically, political predictions, economic predictions, updates on earthquake predictions, earth changes, commentary on what's happening all around the world, specifically with inside information that I get from very, very high-level both military intelligence sources and sources within the media.
		So it's a heck of a bargain.
		I've got a lot of your listeners who subscribe to it.
		I was inundated by your listeners the last time I was on the show with hundreds of new people that subscribed to the newsletter.
		It's $45 a year for 12 issues.
		It's 12 pages long, comes every month, and it's just jammed with all of the information and all the stuff that you can't get anywhere in the establishment media.
		And of course, is a perfect complement to your program, specifically because people are we talk very much about the same things that you cover in your program in the newsletter every month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You, like a professional baseball player, are held to a standard, your batting average, so to speak.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Pretty darn good, actually.
		I mean, let me see.
		To give you an example, the Northridge quake, the infamous October issue of the newsletter predicted the Malibu fires.
		The Northridge quake missed it by 10 days.
		I predicted that the quake would happen between the 23rd of December and the 7th of January, and it was actually the 17th.
		To give you an idea of a miss, I had predicted that I thought that there was going to be a 6.6 quake in Lander, specifically on the 19th of November, and instead the quake was only a 4.7.
		But it was still a substantial quake on the exact date in the exact location.
		And I've had some spectacular hits as far as misses go.
		I try to be very, very specific in my predictions.
		The visions are usually, I would say, 95% correct.
		Sometimes my interpretations of the visions, however, leave something to be desired.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I would like to understand the context of your visions.
		When you have a vision, I take it that it comes after a period of meditation.
		Is that correct?
		All right.
		What form does it take?
		You've got to draw, this is radio, so you've got to kind of draw a mental picture for us.
		What do you see?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll be drawn, when I'm doing specific geological predictions, I'll be drawn to a particular area of a map where I'll feel energy coming over the map and run my hands over the map to the point of where I feel energy coming out of it.
		Then I'll meditate on that very specific point of the map, and I will then get feelings in my body specifically as far as maybe earthquakes or hurricane, wind, rains, floods, which is how I predicted the flooding in Texas.
		And when it comes to political predictions as well, I begin to get names.
		I begin to get sometimes letters and numbers from the predictions.
		Just recently in the newsletter, I was talking about that the first 10 days of December were going to be a very dark time around Washington, D.C., and that I specifically was seeing death at the White House.
		And my interpretation of that was that someone was going to do something to Bill Clinton, and instead there was a man shot on the sidewalk right in front of the White House.
		So that gives you an idea of how sometimes the visions themselves are correct.
		It's my interpretations of them sometimes that are a bit off.
		So we actually had the death at the White House the first 10 days of December.
		It wasn't the person that I expected it to be.
		However, it was a person who, of course, was shot down by a security guard who was wielding a knife directly in front of the White House.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you try and perfect the process of interpreting what it is that you see?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		A lot of times in the newsletter, I'll simply put it down as to what the vision is and then specifically point out what it is I'm looking at and then what the vision looks like and then I will separately put what my interpretation of the vision is.
		At the same time, because we are called the Prophecy Research Institute, I have some very excellent people that work with me.
		The head of my research department, Robert Egan, as an example, is sort of a Nostradamus buff.
		So he's constantly analyzing various quatrains of Nostradamus, and we put those analysis in the newsletter as well to give people an idea of the overall trend.
		At the same time, I've studied the Great Pyramid in Cairo that is quite literally a time coding in stone that, once you understand the coding of the pyramid, gives very specific dates and times for major world events that are about to occur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, are you, by the way, familiar with the recent finds in Egypt?
		They think they've got the tomb of Alexander the Great.
		And there have been predictions of more finds in Egypt this year.
		What do you think?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the interesting thing about Egypt.
		Having lived in Egypt as a kid, and also having just come back from there last September, October, there's a lot of stuff in Egypt that there's a difference between finding things.
		And they've known that things have been under the Sphinx for a long time.
		I believe that they're going to find the entrance to the Great Library of Atlantis.
		And I mean, I can tell you where it is.
		If you go off the right paw, there's a gazebo, sort of a town square, that's just across from the Sphinx where there's a fountain on a raised hill.
		And it's literally the only raised object between the Sphinx's paw and the Nile.
		And for many years, the townspeople have known that there's something under there.
		The problem is that once you report that there's something, say, under your property and it's an antiquity, the farmer will usually lose his property because it becomes the property of the state.
		And they basically come in and bulldoze your house and take away your farm and start digging everything up.
		So they'll find massive new things, I think, in Egypt because I think that the people are ready to begin talking about some of the history and some of the culture and allowing the government to come in and have a little bit more of a hand because they see that Egypt is desperately trying to break away and become independent, specifically based off its tourism.
		And of course, the best way to do that is through these archaeological finds.
		But they will find underneath an entire catacomb, which is what Edgar Casey talked about for many years, many years.
		Spoke of the fact that there was an Atlantean library left over from a previous civilization at which the Sphinx is the actual entrance to this.
		And now, they've just did a documentary called Mysteries of the Sphinx, and Robert Watts, who was the producer of that, was a very good friend of mine.
		And using this new ultrasound technique that was developed by Dr. Jim De Latoso, who became famous for analyzing all of the UFO photographs in the Billy Meyer UFO case, using this technique now, they're ultrasounding underneath the ground and finding all sorts of fantastic new caverns and chambers and relics from Egypt's past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		So much to talk about.
		You've got a prediction down here about Bosnia as the beginning of the Fourth World War and the destruction of a U.S. aircraft carrier in the Adriatic.
		Now, I must have missed the Third World War, or has that still not happened?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, technically, you can actually look at the war, Desert Storm, as literally being the Third World War, because the Third Great World War was literally 150 some-odd countries allied against Saddam Hussein.
		Every single country in the world was represented in that war.
		And so, technically, one would count that as a third world conflict simply because there were so many countries.
		NATO was involved, the United States was involved, England was involved, France was involved.
		I'd hardly call it a world war, but it was in fact a skirmish in which every country in the world was specifically involved.
		And Saddim Hussein is going to be very important in the next two years or so because I believe that Hussein is going to be removed from power.
		And when Hussein is removed from power, you're going to see a bloodbath in the streets.
		Some 50,000 to 60,000 people that are directly connected with his political party are going to be torn apart by the Iraqi people.
		And that will be the beginning of the alliance of Iraq and Iran.
		And those are the two specific countries that need to be watched as forming the beginning of what's going to be known as the Islamic Jihad.
		And this Islamic Jihad will begin to link all of the various Islamic countries together using flashpoints like Grozny and Bosnia as battle cries, quite literally, to begin an attack upon Europe that I see beginning in July of 1999 with a nuclear attack on the United States from a submarine, specifically at New York City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A nuclear attack from a submarine?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An attack on New York City?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yes, in July of 1999.
		This is one of the very specific predictions that Nostradamus gives that's very much a linchpin for many of his prophecies.
		And information that's just come to me as of yesterday was a very good friend of mine who's very high up in military intelligence was raving on the phone yesterday that there is a very clear and present danger right now from submarine attack to the United States because they've dismantled something in the Atlantic called SOSUS, which is the sonic oceanic submarine underwater surveillance system.
		It took us almost 25 years to build this submarine surveillance system.
		We used to have hundreds of people at listening posts, primarily listening for Soviet submarines, and now it has been so defunded by the Clinton administration.
		Wow.
		All of these cuts that he talks about are virtually all military cuts.
		And now we have, out of, I think, a staff of almost 1,000, which were manning these listening posts, both in the Atlantic and in the Pacific.
		Now we're left with four guys that are basically listening to this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're telling me then the SOSIS system, for all intents and purposes, is not even operating.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And again, that is a system that detects underwater submarine activity.
		It's how we track Russian submarines, submarines in general.
		Do you have any idea where this attack will come from?
		What nation?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		It'll be Iran.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Iran.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		And Iran is going to be where the third great Antichrist is going to come from.
		And when I say Antichrist, a world leader specifically that will link the Islamic countries together that will be involved in the last great world war against the United States.
		What I'm seeing for what's going to happen in Bosnia is there's going to be peace in Bosnia specifically until late June or July.
		There's going to be a massive effort to try to get out the American, well, actually the UN troops out of Bosnia who are going to be caught primarily in Bihak.
		There are two aircraft carriers that are going to be stationed in the Adriatic.
		One is going to be the Eisenhower, and the other one is going to be the USS Enterprise.
		And I see the Eisenhower being either sunk or crippled by Serbian missiles.
		Hard to do with a United States destroyer, but literally you are going to see the Eisenhower in the news as being attacked by Serbian positions.
		At the same time, this is going to link up with what I see going on in Russia with the removal of Boris Yeltsin from power, possibly by as early as May, and the replacement of Boris Yeltsin with Viktor Zerevnovsky.
		And that's what's up right now.
		And I believe that with Zerevnovsky in power, the relative peace that has existed between the United States and the Russians will pretty much end.
		And you're going to see in just the Hak in the northern part of Bosnia, and there'll be very specific numbers.
		I keep getting 300,000, 300,000 either dead or imprisoned in that one particular area.
		And basically, Bosnia is going to suck us into this war.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now you made these predictions on NBC's The Other Side last Thursday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that correct?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Not these predictions specifically.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		we were talking specifically about earthquakes i was talking about the uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you confined what you said on NBC to geologic activity?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, and they had me on at the end of the show, actually, after, I think, a psychic earthquake-sensing dog.
		So it was a little bit difficult to take the whole St. Paul thing seriously.
		But specifically, what I talked about on the other side was that I felt that Eureka continues to be dangerous in Northern California, and that I was picking up activity in Redding near Mount Shasta.
		I see quakes in a triangle in Northern California between Nevada, Napa, and Vallejo.
		Cloverdale and Parkfield are very hot, so you need to watch for a 6.0 or above in the Parkfield area by the end of June.
		And this is a precursor to mega quake activity in California.
		This triangle of land I see heating up in Palmdale, Redlands, and Northridge, a five, no greater than a six there.
		But the 18th, 19th, and 20th of February, I believe, is going to be the beginning of much larger quake activity out in the desert area, the Palm Springs, Barstow, San Bernardino triangle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gordon Michaels Guyan predicted accurately an earthquake about 50 miles from Mount Rainier.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said this is the precursor to Mount Rainier going.
		And he thinks fairly soon.
		You also have a prediction about Mount Rainier, but again, yours seems to go off to 1996.
		Is that correct?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, Mount Rainier has been really difficult because it's a I was probably the first one to talk about quakes at the foot of Mount Rainier, of quakes in the 5.5 to 6 range before Mount Rainier goes.
		Mount Rainier is a very important trigger for a series of prophecies because if Mount Rainier blows, the mountain itself is about 15,000 feet high and it has a huge mantle.
		And if Rainier goes, it has the potential of dumping so much soot and ash into the atmosphere that it would have the capability, and actually weather experts are claiming that the very expected likelihood that the ash from Mount Rainier will lower the temperature of North America by almost three degrees.
		Now to give you an idea of this, when Mount Panetubo exploded in 1991, Panetubo dumped so much soot into the atmosphere, which was then carried into the United States, that it lowered the temperature of North America by about 0.5 to about 1 degree, which is what started causing a large number of the massive weather-related catastrophes that you've seen, the record winters because of all of this there.
		Now, I've been talking about Mount Rainier for some time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about the immediate consequences for people, for example, in the Seattle area?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, it'll be a lot like what happened in Mount St. Helens.
		I mean, obviously, they're going to be under a great deal of soot.
		I'm not exactly sure how dangerous gases coming up out of the mountain will affect the people in Seattle.
		There is going to be talk about evacuating sections of Seattle.
		The real tragedy is that they're at the bottom of this volcano, and Seattle has absolutely no earthquake preparedness, no volcano preparedness.
		They were rated in a report by the United States Geological Survey as being the least prepared city for this type of natural catastrophe in the world.
		In the world.
		And the Chinese have a saying that when you build your house next to a dragon, it should not matter that the dragon is sleeping.
		And so many of these people have built their homes in their entire city at the foot of a volcano, which is very, very dangerous.
		And there's an old Indian legend also which states that when Little Sister speaks, that Big Brother will answer.
		And the American Indians have always talked about Mount St. Helens being Little Sister and that Mount Rainier was Big Brother and that it was only a matter of time before Mount Rainier actually blew.
		And a quake, as I said, of about a 6 to a 6.5 or so in the Seattle area will be a precursor To the eruption of Mount Rainier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're on the air on KBI, of course, in Seattle.
		And so I'm sure they're listening rapidly to what you're saying.
		Sean, if you lived in Seattle right now, what would you do?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing about volcanoes is that unlike earthquake prediction, which is somewhat of an arcane psychic science, there's a great deal of warning that comes before a volcano.
		They have sensors all over that mountain.
		And so now this is, of course, if the government agrees to actually warn the people in Seattle before something like this occurs.
		But they knew well in advance before Mount St. Helens blew and were able to evacuate much of the towns of Mount St. Helens there in Washington and Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you know about policy with regard to warnings?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For example, if there was going to be a catastrophic quake and they had 24 hours notice in Southern California, would they tell everybody or not?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, they didn't here in Southern California.
		The calls that I got here was that, and I got calls from friends of mine who were paramedics, and they were in the air 24 hours a day in emergency mode eight days before the Northridge quake actually occurred.
		And they were calling me on the phone saying, look, I don't know what's going on, but something is about to happen.
		It's costing the city $75,000 to $100,000 a day to have these emergency paramedics up in the air, and we don't know why we're up here.
		At the same time, there were military maneuvers moving in water, moving in certain types of food supplies.
		There were a lot of trucks that were leaving with government files, specifically IRS and tax files, moving them to the eastern parts of California and into Arizona.
		So I think that the Northridge Quake, not only did they have substantial warning of it and did not inform the populace, but there is also, and I don't know if we have time to get into this tonight, I think we talked about it on a previous show, but there was also some, well, I think a great deal of evidence that the Northridge Quake was somehow artificially induced and that the quake was induced specifically to relieve the kind of pressure on the San Andreas Fault that so many people have been talking about to relieve the nine plus mega quakes that were building
		along the San Andreas up in Lancaster, Palmdale, all the way up into Parkfield and Cloverdale.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you induce a quake?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		There were three ultrasound ELF frequency stations in Beattie, Nevada, right outside of Area 51, at Edwards Air Force Base and at Moffett Field.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but is that not to monitor ELF activity prior to an earthquake as opposed to the causative fact?
		Look, we're at the top of the hour, so we'll have to pick this up next hour.
		Okay, John?
		All right, stay right where you are, and we will try and get lines open in this next half hour.
		We'll also find out how it is you cause earthquakes.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jay Radio, 580 in Fresno, the big one in Fresno, to the Dreamland Network.
		Good to finally get on in Fresno.
		Very good to be on.
		We're talking with Sean David Morton, and he'll be back and talk with us more in just a moment.
		We'll find out how.
		All models come with a one year.
		All right, updating you on our numbers, and we're about to get the phone lines open here for Sean David Morton.
		If you're west of the Rockies, the number is 1-800-618-8255.
		1-800-618-8255.
		Anywhere east of the Rocky Mountains, it's 1-800-825-5033.
		East of the Rockies only, 1-800-825-5033.
		And in just one second, we'll open those lines.
		John David Morton, you're back on the air.
		Let me ask you how you cause earthquakes.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, specifically, and we talked a lot about this on the last show when I was on, and I've spoken about this in my newsletter quite a great deal, that specifically the Northridge quake, that fault, which is also called the Camarillo Fault, was only discovered May 26th of 1993.
		And less than eight months later, you have one of the most damaging, most costly quakes in U.S. history occurring right along that particular fault.
		One of the few quakes, I might add, that actually relieved a huge amount of pressure from the San Andreas Fault.
		And what experts felt was the only quake that they'd seen that actually relieved a lot of pressure in Southern California, because most quakes like that build up to larger quakes except that one.
		And what we had talked about, and we had a lot of people that called on the show the last time, that there are specifically ELF frequency towers, and they're not exactly towers, they're actually, they look like long railroad ties, that are in Beatty, Nevada, which is right outside of Area 51, Edwards Air Force Base, and Moffett Field.
		Now, for the last couple of years, there have been very mysterious hums.
		One is called the Taos hum in New Mexico, where many people are hearing these very, very odd radio frequencies that some people can hear that other people cannot.
		Harvard went out there and said, well, there is something there, but we can't figure out where it comes from.
		There's another interesting thing that was reported on CNN, which they call the Monterey Heartbeat, and that there is a thumping, pounding heartbeat sound that's being heard directly off the coast of Monterey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they still hearing that now?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no kidding.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		And one of the reasons I was able to pinpoint the Northridge quake is because in my meditations, I kept getting man-made, man-made, man-made.
		That word kept flashing across my mind.
		And when it came to my attention that these ELF, these very, very low-frequency antenna were located at these three places, I then began to draw concentric circles around the locations, realizing that if sound was going to be used to induce some kind of quake, that it would have to be where the sound waves interconnected.
		And they interconnect in three places.
		The first place is Flagstaff, Arizona.
		And of course, there was a 5.6 quake in Flagstaff in April of 1993.
		First time there'd been a quake there in, I think, 40 some odd years.
		The second location is Vallejo up in Northern California, which I'm picking up as being very, very hot right now.
		And The third location is Northridge, at the exact epicenter of where that quake is.
		If people in the Southern California area were paying attention, suddenly after they found the Camarillo fault, there were a whole series of military operations that went on directly off the coast.
		The first one was called Operation Ship Shock, and this was a testing of the stealth submarine called the Sea Shadow.
		And the cover story was that the Sea Shadow was going to be sent into these trenches and that they would explode 50 to 200,000 pound ammonium nitrate bombs, what they call cheese cutter bombs, that the sea shadow would then move near the bombs and that when the bombs went off, this was to test the ability of the seashadow to live through some kind of nuclear attack.
		You know, basically the shock and stress structures of the submarine.
		The second wave that went on was called Operation Shockwave.
		And Shockwave was just completed here where the United States Geological Survey, in league with the U.S. military, I might point out, for the first time ever, did a seismic survey in which a series of bombs were buried from Seal Beach all the way up to China Lake Naval Weapons Test Center, and then from China Lake all the way down to Landers.
		Now, just as a side point, what a lot of people don't realize is the exact epicenter of the 1992 7.6 Landers quake was in fact the southwest corner of the 29 Palms Marine Corps Base.
		It was on military land, suspiciously enough.
		And because of the information that I got from the paramedics who were up in the air eight days before the quake, because of the meditations I was getting, because I knew where these sound waves were happening, and they announced in the newspapers that they were going to be setting off bombs, which just so happened to be at the end of the Camrio fault line, which when it comes off the coast is actually trident shape.
		It goes out in three directions.
		And there were very mysterious quakes, all of which were exactly 3.7 on the Richter scale.
		And USGS sort of scratched its head and said, gee, that's odd.
		It's rare that we get quakes that are of the exact same magnitude.
		And the U.S. Geological Report said that, that seemed to have an effect of explosions, like undersea detonations going off, unquote, from the USGS weekly report that they put out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so the upshot is you think Northridge was man-made?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Specifically man-made because the United States Geological Survey teamed up with the military.
		They basically got together and said, well, look, if we have a 9-plus mega quake that's going to be building in California, we know it's coming.
		We know where the stress points are.
		It's not like you can go to the governor of the state and say, well, we need to induce a 6.5 to a 7.5 quake so that your state doesn't fall into the ocean.
		And I believe that Northridge was artificially induced specifically to keep that event from occurring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's caught a charge.
		All right, I want to get to the phones, but briefly, I've got a fax here from Hawaii, unrelated to anything we've been talking about, but interesting.
		Dear Art, I just heard on the local news, KGMB Channel 4 Honolulu, that there have been multiple sightings on Oahu of mysterious lights.
		Last night between 10 and 12 midnight, no make that 10 in the morning and 12 p.m., two bright objects were seen and videotaped by several people.
		These objects had lights coming from the bottom shooting down over the water.
		This part did not show up on tape regards, Bill, and Hawaii.
		So there's some sighting stuff going on now in Hawaii.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, one of the interesting things about UFO phenomena is that UFO phenomena will almost always increase exponentially directly before some sort of major natural catastrophe.
		There does seem to be a link between not only the sightings of UFOs, but also religious apparitions.
		In this country, the Virgin Mary.
		In Egypt, she's sometimes seen as ISIS.
		In India, she's seen as Durga Mata, the Earth Mother there.
		These sort of psychic phenomena and this kind of UFO activity usually always occurs in mass anywhere between two years to 30 days before some sort of massive earth change, a war, or a major natural catastrophe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go on the phones.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Hi.
		Hello there.
		Yes, sir.
		Turn your radio off.
		Oh, well, he instead he hung up.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Good morning.
		Evening.
unidentified		Yes, hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you?
unidentified		I am just northeast of Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yes.
		Hi.
		My name is Starla.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Starla?
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Starla?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, Starla.
unidentified		Am I speaking to Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and Sean, so go ahead, Starla.
unidentified		Hi, Art and Sean.
		Yes, I'm calling just northeast of Seattle, as I said, and I did feel the quake that we had the other day.
		The comment that I have is that I have had a vision myself of, I believe, earthquake-related volcanic eruptions.
		I have seen three of them occurring in rapid succession.
		One of them was Mount Rainier, the other one was St. Helens, and another one was a volcano which I lived at the base of for a number of years.
		It's a smaller one, but it's a dormant volcano called Mount Sai, which is just east of Seattle, going over the pass towards Bokan.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying that you see Mount St. Helens actually erupting again?
unidentified		I see all three of these erupting, yes.
		And I think it may be a kind of a chain reaction thing.
		I'm not sure if the earthquake is going to hit first and then the volcanic eruptions or if there's going to be volcanoes and then the earthquake, but I think it's going to be, you know, it's going to be like real close together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just as a matter of curiosity, ma'am, how do these visions or predictions come to you, please?
unidentified		Okay, well, they actually come to me in a series of ways.
		Sometimes they come to me in dreams.
		Sometimes they come to me while I'm awake.
		They're very vivid.
		They're always in detail.
		I've had a lot of visions come true ever since I was a small child.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		Sean, a general question about people who have themselves visions.
		I've had a lot of people calling me up on the phone lately saying things like the psychic hairs on the back of my neck are standing up.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so a lot of people are feeling it.
		Do most people have the ability to receive these visions, Sean?
		Are we just blocking it out?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		The ability is basically growing more and more because as the earth changes become more severe, humanity in order to survive is going to have to pay attention to this ability.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		And every single person on the planet within the next couple of years, as these earth changes get greater and greater, I don't care if you sit on the couch, watch TV, drink a six-pack of beer, and eat pork sandwiches all day, you are going to get more psychic and more sensitive, and you're going to start listening to your body, and your body is going to start telling you, or spirit as well, is going to start telling you where to be, where to go, and where to move.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, is it really human beings becoming more psychically sensitive, or is it a matter of the psychic scream becoming louder?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		I think it's both, actually.
		Humanity is moving into an entirely new phase of its evolution.
		We're moving out of what I call the fourth-dimensional space of height, width, breadth, and time into a fifth-dimensional space of mind, where that which you think is going to become virtually instantaneous reality.
		And the biggest message that I have for the people out there in Seattle and for all those people that subscribe to my newsletter out there and for all my friends there, you must begin to pray, to meditate, to go out to Mount Rainier, to begin to bring that energy onto yourself, process it through your own bodies, and try to calm that area down because it is so very, very hot right now.
		You've already seen the first phase of the eruption of Mount Rainier with the massive fires that have taken place, which were caused by freak aberrant electrical storms, where the energy itself from the sky was being pulled down to start those massive fires on the area.
		The volcanic activity is simply a symptom of the earth being out of balance and each element going out of balance.
		The air element, then the fire element, and then of course the earth element as well.
		And if the people in Seattle can process the energy that's literally coming up through the planet to live in an aspect of love, of prayer, of meditation, of humor, of companionship with one another, that's the most important thing.
		That's the link that can either lessen these catastrophes when they occur, or when they do occur, lessen the human destruction in the form of social and civil unrest, rioting, looting, etc.
		People actually pulling together to help each other.
		That's going to be the key to this whole thing.
		It's going to be what you know and who you know.
		It's going to be knowledge and family.
		That's what's going to be the two most important things is that aspect of community, of people coming together, is what's going to save us here in the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To use the 60s metaphor, good vibrations, east of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, hi, I'm sorry, good evening.
unidentified		All right, this is Jim in St. Louis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		St. Louis, yes.
unidentified		Sean, how's it going?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Good, buddy.
unidentified		I'm glad to have you back on again.
		I'd like for you to comment on two things primarily.
		One, if you could, please explain for all the listeners why it is that, in fact, we do not live in a democracy, but rather behind a facade of democracy and how the Pentagon and the international bankers really run the secret government.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a lot of people that are a lot better on that subject than me.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		My grandmother, who was from Ireland, used to have a funny saying where she used to say, you know, if voting really changed anything, they would have made it illegal a long time ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Colin, we're kind of concentrating on Dreamland Subject.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Could you go into as much detail as possible about what you see happening with the fall of the entire economic system of the West and how martial law will be implemented with the adult forces needed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right, all right.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, there was just a couple points that I wanted to touch on that were that were specific predictions that I had.
		This government source that talked to me last night talked about that there is going to be a coming currency exchange in the United States, and he gave me very specific details on this.
		He said originally the currency exchange was planned for this year, that it's been postponed until the late spring, early summer of 1996, which would be an excellent time, by the way, to invest in gold coins.
		The reason that he gave was that apparently the Iranians are practicing a form of economic terrorism against the United States where the government, their government, the Iranian government, has actually bought the exact same printing presses using the exact same type of paper, same pressure plates, same ink, same strip in the $100 bill, and they are flooding the world market with $100 bills.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been hearing very much the same thing.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		You can't even cash or break a $100 bill in Europe now because one out of every $500 bills outside the country specifically are fake, and that the Iranians are flooding the world market.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you fairly sure of those numbers, one out of five?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		I'm quoting this government source.
		And he said two things.
		Well, he said a number of things.
		One, the currency exchange will occur where the money will be called in, that there'll be a new form of currency where you will use red, they'll have a laser design on them, and you'll use red $100 bills outside of the United States specifically.
		That the currency that was being generated by the Iranians was specifically used for the World Trade Center bombing, and that there were a number of terrorist actions planned across the United States, many of which the NSA has, in fact, stopped and you've never heard about.
		To answer a second question, this is another prediction I have, the Mexican economy and free fall.
		You will see by June the removal of President Zedillo.
		You will see massive riots in Mexico.
		The bailout that Clinton is trying to do right now, I believe, is going to be stopped.
		He's already been sued for it, which puts it on hold for 30 days, the $20 billion where he's raiding the Federal Reserve Bank to flush out Mexico.
		And the loans actually come due in two weeks.
		But you'll see the removal of Zedillo, massive riots in Mexico overthrowing the government, and of course the series of natural catastrophes there, beginning with the quakes around Mexico City and the eruption of Mount Popo Tuca Petal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Now, Sean, as we go along, don't be afraid to make controversial predictions, all right?
		Well, okay.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David.
		Whoops, would have been.
		On the first-time caller line, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Hi.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Sean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from, sir?
unidentified		From Talisdolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Telso, Nevada?
unidentified		Montana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Montana.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		All right.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Say hi to the people in Montana for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I just wanted to know, Sean, do you believe in reincarnation?
		Yes.
		Because I think I've been reincarnated with Hitler's spirit.
		Oh.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, how sorry I am for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, me too.
		And I think I've had calls from him before.
		Interesting, Sean.
		We only have a second here before the bottom of the hour.
		I just want to ask this.
		People will call up, and we'll get them yet tonight, I promise.
		They will say, Sean, where does the power for your predictive ability come from?
		Does it come from God, Sean, or does it come from the devil?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Gosh, well, I certainly hope it comes from God.
		All I'm trying to do with this is try to warn people, try to talk to people about what I see coming.
		You know, it has nothing to do, you know, I'm nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Sean, but the Christians would say you're being misled by the devil who's whispering evil little things into your ear that you're spreading.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doing the devil's work, Sean.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, then at the same time, one can say the same about Jonah, about Isaiah, about Ezekiel in the Old Testament.
		The whole point of prophecy originally had nothing to do with really predicting the future.
		The point of prophecy was the word prophet meant a teacher of righteousness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, on that note, we'll have to hold it right there.
		I just wanted to get your response, Sean.
		And we will be back.
		Sean David Morton is my guest.
unidentified		This is Dreamland.
		From the Kingdom of Nine.
		This is Dreamland with Art Bell on the CBC Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, everybody.
		It certainly is.
		I'm Art Bell.
		My guest is Sean David Morton, but we're going to, as I mentioned at the top of the program, do things in slightly a different order.
		Linda Howe, who would normally do her report at the top of the program, will be here in just a moment to give us her report.
		She was literally just getting in to the airport at Philadelphia.
		So with an additional hour and a half, she is now back at Report Central in Philadelphia.
		And in a moment, we will indeed have Linda Howe.
		Ever fan of today, an afternoon, internationally acclaimed, roving all over the place, wherever the action is.
		Here comes Linda Howe all the way from Philadelphia and I presume just back from Puerto Rico.
		Linda Howe, good evening, Linda.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's right.
		I was flying in from Puerto Rico tonight and the plane was late.
		That's why we're doing this a little later.
		It has been an extremely rich and full week in which I have interviewed men and women all over the island of Puerto Rico, and especially in the Cabarojo area at the far southwest corner of the island, where many people have described seeing disks and lights go into and out of the ocean and a lagoon there called the Cartagena Lagoon.
		I also have interviewed several people who have described seeing what they describe as non-human creatures totally conscious either day or night, including a woman who moved to Puerto Rico in 1986 from New York.
		Two years later, in 1988, while she was getting ready for work at 4.30 a.m., she saw a non-human being standing across the road not more than about 12 feet from her van that she was getting ready for work.
		In the following excerpt, she compares the being to a five-year-old kid.
		That's the word you will hear, kid, about three feet tall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and here it comes again from Puerto Rico.
unidentified		I got up about 4.30 in the morning to get some things in the van because we have a cafeteria, a van.
		So I had to put the stuff in the van to go about 6 o'clock in the morning to sell.
		And I saw this little kid about 3 feet tall, wide, real big eyes, real nice eyes.
		And he was looking at me from the rock.
		And I said, no, it can't be a kid at this time outside.
		That must be a crazy mother.
		But then, you know, he got scared of me and I got scared too.
		He was saying, no, this is not a kid.
		I went inside and I told my sister that if I tell her something, don't tell nobody because they're going to think I'm crazy.
		But I just saw a little guy with beautiful big eyes and he was white.
		He wasn't great at all, you know, like very white, but you can see him because he show up next to the rock and I have the lights on the band on.
		That's why I get to see him.
		When you say the eyes were beautiful, can you describe them in some detail?
		Yeah, because they were big and bright and they look to you a strange eye, but I was scared.
		I won't look too much.
		I just look once and change my look to someplace else.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Compare them to a human eye.
unidentified		No, they're not like ours because they don't have no middle part.
		They don't have no middle part in it.
		It's only black.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		All black.
		Can you show me the shape on your face?
		Show me what you were looking at.
		How big?
unidentified		Oh, it's like a kid, about five years old.
		That's it.
		But up the eyes.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		How big are you?
unidentified		Up the eyes.
		Real big and like going back.
		No hair.
		And I can see only, you know, when he showed like that, he only showed one hand, but I can see too much of the hand.
		Only that.
		He grabbed to the rock.
		He looked at me, he got scared, and I got scared too.
		I was so like.
		And the color of the skin, was it absolutely white?
		Yeah.
		Like a white kid, like pure white, but not too white or gray.
		I guess it was because of the light or something.
		I don't know.
		But he was there.
		I don't know where he came from.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		So that is a typical description of what people for at least the last 10 or 15 years throughout the island in various places have said that they have encountered.
		And it raises the interesting question that we're all trying to understand.
		This is an island that is made out of coral and limestone with a lot of caverns underneath.
		Is it possible that there is some kind of a non-human creature based or living under or in the caverns below the surface island of Puerto Rico?
		And could it explain why there seems to be such a frequency of sightings of both lights, discs, and in several cases encounters with beings just as this woman has described?
		And that's what we're all trying to figure out.
		Now, jumping from an eyewitness conscious encounter about a non-human creature, which there appears to be a pattern of such descriptions there, you and I have discussed a videotape that we received concerning a possible mysterious Puerto Rican creature.
		And while I was there, I went to a library in a place called Lajas near the ocean.
		And the librarian had a book about the, it's called the Devil's Face or the Devil's Claw.
		And in it were several photographs of an alleged creature in a book that Salvador Fascito from Spain had put together in the 70s concerning, and with a question mark, is this an extraterrestrial creature in Puerto Rico?
unidentified		Indeed.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		I took the book to an ichthyologist who is one of the world's foremost ichthyologists, means a scientist who studies a variety of fish at the University of Puerto Rico.
		As soon as he saw it, he said, well, that's a dried-up ray, stingray.
		And he got out one of his large ichthyology books and turned to the drawings of what rays look like on top and on the bottom.
		And we looked at an x-ray of the alleged extraterrestrial.
		The x-ray was even almost more clear than the color photograph.
		His guess is that somebody, with the idea perhaps of a scam, decided that a dried-up steam ray would look like something from outer space, especially if you turn it upside down to the bottom of the ray, and you put, in this case, they use something that looks like cat eyes in the actual air holes on the bottom of the ray.
		And below the air holes, interestingly enough, is an area that looks like a pug nose with a mouth underneath it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right, yes.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And this is precisely what the drawings and the photographs of the rays in the ichthyology book looks like.
		It includes the long, what are called clappers, which in the book on the so-called extraterrestrial, they look like somebody had made them to be legs.
		The clappers on a stingray are used when there is some sort of sexual intercourse between a male and a female stingray.
		And there's also a long tail on the stingray, which when you look at these creatures from the side, in some of the cases, the tail has been doubled up on the back into an odd fet shape, which the ichthyologist immediately identified as being the curled up tail of the ray.
		And I personally, after comparing the library book from the La Haas Library with the ichthyology book, my sense of things and the ichthyologist's art is that somebody has tried to pawn off by putting artificial eyes in the ear holes at the bottom of the stingray something that they passed off as being something from outer space and it's not.
		It's from the ocean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From a wet space.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there it is, a hoax.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, from the ichthyologist's point of view, it definitely is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Linda, let us get out your phone number and your address.
		I'll give your phone number.
		Well, that is to say, if you want me to.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, my fax number has been working well, so if we could give out my fax number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, why don't we do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give us your fax number.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Area code 215-491-9842.
		And my address to hear from people about your own encounters and events, as well as for the many people who write wanting to know how to get my books and the documentaries that I've done about a variety of phenomena, it's Linda Howe Productions at Post Office Box 538, Huntingdon Valley, PA, Pennsylvania, zip code 19006.
		And again, Post Office Box 538, Huntingdon English spelling, H-U-N-T-I-N-G-D is in dog O-N.
		Huntingdon Valley PA, zip code 19006.
		And I look forward to hearing from our listeners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Linda, are you going to be in Philadelphia or is it off to some other spot in the world?
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope the rest of February that I'm going to be here.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		I've got several writing projects, and then I'll begin traveling again at the end of March.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I have one other thing that I wish to read you and everybody else at the same time, and Sean is listening as well, and just get your reaction to it.
		This is a letter written by Mr. Rose to NASA.
		I'm sorry, it's a response from NASA to a letter written by Mr. Rose, Awareness Branch of NASA.
		Dear Mr. Rose, thank you for your recent letter.
		We appreciate your interest in the space program.
		We are unaware of a large mass, as you have described, which is approaching or in our solar system.
		You may be referring to the theoretical possibility announced of late about a tenth planet, also known as Planet X. Some astronomers speculate that the unusual orbital paths of some of the outer planets are the result of a large unknown gravitational source.
		This source, they postulate, may be an unknown planet perhaps four times the size of Earth that is following an orbital path considerably angled to the orbital plane of the other planets.
		At any rate, NASA spacecraft, the pioneers and Voyagers to the other planets, and astronomers around the world are looking for planet X. This is being done by computational methods, optical, infrared, and ultraviolet studies, and by measuring gravitational influences on the pioneers and voyagers which are now exploring the limits of our solar system.
		Someday, we may have an answer to the question.
		And he adds, at the bottom, Mr. Rose does, do you dare reveal this on Dreamland?
		Well, of course I do.
		I just read the letter.
		But that is interesting, Linda.
		It seems almost an acknowledgement, or it is one, that NASA is indeed busily looking for the 10th planet.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, who was Mr. Rose, and who was, is he NASA?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Rose is just a listener.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This was signed by Carl Christoffenson of the Educational and Awareness Branch at NASA.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And what is the date of that letter?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		February 9th.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm very interested in that, and I will, was it, let's see, we're at February 5th today, so was that a year ago?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		1988.
		Oh.
		I'm sorry.
		Long time ago.
		But it did indicate that NASA was interested in and pursuing the possibility or the 10th planet postulation.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, seven years ago, if they were looking into that, the question would be, where is their state of knowledge today?
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And I am going to continue to stay in touch with the astronomer from the Shoemaker-Levy Investigation at MIT, and I will talk with her about this, and also about Macholz 2, which really is a comet broken up into five pieces coming into our solar system, and see if I can get any update on this issue of some large mass in the solar system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would appreciate it.
		Many of my guests have talked of it.
		Linda, we will speak with you next week.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		All right, and thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Linda.
		Good night.
		That's Linda Howe, of course, from Philadelphia.
		She is normally with us at the beginning of the broadcast.
		Now, I think it would be interesting to get a reaction.
		Let's go back to Sean Morton.
		Sean, are you there?
		Yes, I am.
		Sean, well, wait a minute.
		Let me put you on hold in another place here.
		Let's see if I can do this.
		Okay, I think we've got you on now, Sean.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it was great to hear Linda.
		She's got fabulous stuff.
		She's a very nice lady.
		She's an excellent investigator, and she's the best there is.
		And she's one of the people that's really done a huge amount from the creation of the TV program Sightings, which I had the pleasure of being on the premiere episode of.
		Anyway, she's doing great work, and I'm glad you have her on your show every week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to react at all to what she had to say about the supposed creature photographs?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		I don't think she was talking about the same photograph.
		I mean, what I'll do, Art, is I'll send you a copy of the photograph in the report called Alien Activity in Puerto Rico by Jorge Martín.
		I'd be happy to send any of your listeners copies of the it's about a 30-page report.
		You know, basically if they want to send me $10, that just covers postage and handling and copying the report.
		And later on tonight, I'll actually fax you a photograph of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you tell me what it is.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Mana Rays, unfortunately, do not have little tiny fingers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I will be able to immediately tell you because I have this other photograph in a high-resolution computer picture, so I'll be able to tell you right away.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I'm not sure, you know, she didn't have it might be that she might be looking at a different thing.
		She didn't specifically talk about the, you know, the fact that it was in formahall, that, you know, this policeman had it.
		I wasn't sure if we were talking about the same thing or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean Morton High.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Hi, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm at home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is your home?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Shamrock, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Shamrock, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, I just call him and say I don't see how people can cause earthquake.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not a question of people causing earthquakes.
		The ability to induce earthquakes has been studied by, and the three premier scientific communities that are studying it now are the United States, Red China, and Iran.
		A lot of this information came out when Colonel Oleg Kalugan, who was the former Dirty Tricks Master Spy of the KGB, when Russia fell, he began to dump massive amounts of files on the West about specifically different types of scientific knowledge that the Russians were investigating.
		Kalugan was the one, many people might remember him from the headlines, because he embarrassed Bill Clinton when Clinton was trying to open up normalization of relationships with Vietnam.
		And it was Kalugan who came out and said that not only was it routine for American POWs to be taken to Russia from North Vietnam, but in fact that there were still American POWs alive in Russian gulags.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How does all of that relate to man-causing earthquakes?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Specifically because Kalugan related that he bragged about the fact that the Soviet Union caused the earthquake in Armenia in 1989, which killed 45,000 people by detonating an underground nuclear device in Semi-Plovotsnik.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No kidding.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		He talked about the fact that this technology was being very intricately studied by what he said then were the highest bidders, the United States, Iran, and China.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well we don't have much time to the top of the hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Caller there in Texas, had you heard any of this before?
unidentified		No, I haven't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hadn't either.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, Kalugan is probably the best intelligence source that's come out.
		He's been interviewed in Time magazine.
		He's given a number of interviews where he talks specifically about earthquake technology.
		And if you want to go back also, just very quickly to Nikolai Tesla, Nikolai Tesla talks about the fact that he could, with a two-horsepower device, actually split the earth open like an apple by pulsing a pounding sound down into the planet using a seismograph That picks it up at the top of the wave and then tapping it again.
		And it's no more difficult when you know how to do it and have the devices to do it than tapping the waves at the top of a bathtub and then making the bathtub overflow.
		It's all based on sympathetic resonance, that when you can pulse a wave into the earth and then tap that wave when it comes back, it's just a matter of tapping a wave at the top, and the wave, of course, grows exponentially each time it's tapped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Sean, hold it right there.
		We're at the top of the hour.
		I want to remind anybody we've got kind of a temporary number to get a copy of this program or any other we do on Dreamland.
		Call during business hours, area code 503-664-8829.
		503-664-8829.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		Tonight's broadcast is an on-cloud presentation.
unidentified		please We continue now with your calls to Dreamland with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We do in this just in.
		We're just getting word that there's been a 7.5 earthquake in New Zealand.
		Says my factser, John.
		Wow, 7.5 earthquake in New Zealand.
		Yikes, just in.
		And I believe that that is an accurate report.
		I've got it from one other source, though not yet from the networks.
		So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
		We'll get back to Sean, David Morton.
		More predictions, more questions, many of them coming in, which we'll get to in just a moment, by facts.
		Time to learn the Treat 7.
		I'm back now to Sean.
		And Sean, we too frequently, we've got affiliates in Alaska and Hawaii.
		And here's a facts from John, who wants to know, how about some predictions for the states of Alaska and Hawaii from your guest?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		All we hear about are predictions for the continental U.S. Well, in my newsletter, and I might also say that so many of your listeners have called in and subscribed from Alaska and Hawaii.
		Very specifically, just in the last couple of newsletters, I ran a number of predictions of the return of Hawaii to a substantial sovereign kingdom.
		One of the individuals that I know of who's actually in a federal penitentiary in Florence, Colorado, is King Kamehameha IV, who is the rightful heir to the Hawaiian throne.
		And he's actually under, he had a dispute with the government claiming that because he was in fact a sovereign in Hawaii, that he did not owe federal income tax because he was a sovereign under treaty to the government.
		And the federal government decided to basically put him under lock and key because the sovereign movement in Hawaii was growing by leaps and bounds.
		One of the major problems that Hawaii specifically is going to have is going to be the fact that hurricanes are going to increase dramatically in size and speed.
		This is going to be due primarily to a flux in the hyperbaric pressure on Earth.
		And a lot of this has had to do with Shoemaker-Levy 9, the comet actually striking Jupiter.
		Now, even though the radiation effects of that comet, in other words, these waves of radiation that are coming off Jupiter after the effects of the comet, are going to take at least another six and a half to almost seven years to reach planet Earth, the gravitational effects of the solar system were felt virtually right away.
		And what Hawaii and specifically Florida have to worry about in the next year and specifically later on this year are going to be hurricanes where the average hurricane is going to have speeds of 150 to almost 175 miles per hour.
		They're not even going to be called hurricanes anymore.
		I coined the term hypercanes a while back because I felt that these hurricanes were going to be so massive that they were going to take out large chunks of American cities, specifically mostly in Florida, but also in Hawaii as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why are hurricanes getting stronger?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		It has to do with an increase in the hyperbaric pressure because the hyperbaric pressure has fluxed.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		I believe is a direct result of the Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet actually striking Jupiter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what hyperbaric pressure is.
		I know there have been scientists, Sean, that have theorized that we're warming up.
		The planet is warming up.
		And of course, as the planet gets warmer, there's more energy available for hurricanes to build.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so I've heard that, but I'm not familiar with hyperbaric pressure.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, that has to do with not only the global warming aspect, but it's the best way I can describe it is quite literally, there's almost a with the assault of this comet on Jupiter, there has been a flux rather substantially in the gravitational field of the entire solar system.
		And I believe that this is one of the things that is going to lead to these massive hurricanes.
		Now, as far as the scientific explanation, I'm at a bit of a loss.
		All I can tell you is that these hurricanes are going to get bigger and larger and much nastier, and the average hurricane is going to be about the size of Hurricane Hugo.
		Gone are going to be the days where we'll have hurricanes of 50, 75, 80 miles per hour.
		As I said, on the average worldwide, we'll have hurricanes of between 150 and 200 miles per hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I want to leave Alaska out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've had one large earthquake, as you know.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alaska is not in too horribly much danger simply because the massive Alaskan earthquake in the early part of the 1960s, when they had, I believe it was like the eight and a half up there, has rearranged a lot of the landmass in Alaska to the point of where, you know, Alaska is always going to be active.
		It's always going to be active because of the volcanic activity there.
		You're going to see hurricanes and, well, I'm sorry, volcanoes and earthquakes increase all around the Pacific Rim, increasing exponentially, I believe, once again in the next five years.
		As far as most of Alaska goes, you have to remember that the majority of people live specifically on the coast.
		They are going to have some major readjustments of the tectonic platelets.
		They will experience probably a quake as high as a 7 to a 7.4 or so, I believe, within about the next two years.
		But remember, Alaska's been pretty well rearranged.
		There's been a number of very, very strong quakes in Alaska that have rearranged the tectonic platelets up there.
		So I don't think Alaska has a huge amount to worry about.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From DJ in Phoenix, ask your guest, please, what he sees in the way of the status of the food supply, disease, epidemics, and nuclear detonation in the next six or seven years.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me tell you that this year is going to be very much about volcanic eruptions, and it's going to be very much about atomic accidents, nuclear supplies going, nuclear reactors that have been built improperly, and also stored nuclear devices.
		One of the things that I do see is that I saw, and I think I wrote this in the, it was one of the things that I wrote to you in the facts earlier, is that I saw problems with atomic radiation in Texas, specifically the northern central parts of Texas.
		I also saw problems with Albuquerque at Kirtland Air Force Base with a large number of nuclear devices that are being stored at Kirtland Air Force Base right outside of Albuquerque.
		You have something interesting astrologically happening this year as well.
		You have Pluto moving out of Scorpio, but Pluto moves back into, and Pluto is very specifically the planet of volcanoes, assassinations, atomic energy, atomic explosions, and it's in the sign that it rules Scorpio.
		Now, it's just moved out of Sagittarius, which is why, or into Sagittarius, which is why people are finding that they've got a new way of doing things, a new expansion of consciousness, that it is going to move backwards, back into Scorpio again, going retrograde as of about the 22nd of April.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		While we're on the subject, a bunch of European researchers have just said that the whole 12 signs of the zodiac thing is all wrong.
		There aren't 12.
		There are 13.
		They added one, and they also rearranged the dates so that most of us fall into new categories.
		Had you heard that news?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		I had heard of it, but I mean, there have always been two separate astrological systems.
		One we called sidereal and the other one we called tropical.
		The sidereal system was the system that was specifically used by Hindu Vedic astrologers, which was based on the true positions of the stars.
		So the true positions of the stars are actually 23 degrees off where we use our regular astrology.
		Like, for example, what sign are you, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Gemini.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you being a Gemini, were you born late?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		When's your birthday?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		June 17th.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		So June 17th, you would still be a Gemini because you would have to, because you're born late in June, because you would actually have to back your sign up 23 degrees, literally by some 23 days, and that's where you would find your astrological sign, because the Hindu Vedic charts are based on the true positions of the stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, 23% error is not trivial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's significant.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		No, it's huge.
		But the thing is, is that both astrological systems work.
		If you're Hindu Vedic, for example, a Gemini is a person that's a master of communication, a person that maybe has a dual personality, multiple relationships in their life, usually, but very, very talkative, best on television, best on radio, best on dealing with popular medium.
		Now, if I was to move you back into, say, Taurus, the Hindu Vedic people basically attribute all the signs of Gemini onto Taurus.
		The Tauruses would be all those things.
		So you see, it all sort of changes.
		Both systems work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I follow you.
		I want to get back to the phones.
		We've got so many people out there wanting to talk to you.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean Morton.
		Hi.
		Hi, this is Alan from Odesto.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Alan.
unidentified		Hey, how's it going?
unidentified		I'm looking to see you on KMH out of Fresno.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KMJ.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KMJ.
unidentified		Hey, nice to have you loud and clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, I do UFO investigations in this area, and I'm coming across a couple of new groups.
		One's called the Ash Star Command, and the other's the Solara that has to do with the 11-11.
		And they're claiming they can remove implants with psychic surgery.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to know Sean's spin on this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They can remove what?
unidentified		Implants using psychic surgery.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		These are supposedly the people that are abducted, that probes or tracking devices are actually placed, sometimes down the throat, up the nose, in the ears.
		I don't know.
		I've heard of these people.
		It's not my job to say anything negative about people.
		I don't know how they can do it.
		I mean, the only thing that I, the only success that I've seen with any of this, well, I don't Yeah, I don't, you know, there's a lot of people out there who claim to be channeling, who are starting various religions based on this stuff.
		And, you know, all one can do is sort of be careful.
		The Astron Command has claimed a lot of different things over the years.
		I don't think any of which have happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Caller, we're going to leave it there.
		Thank you very much.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Hi.
unidentified		Well, good evening, Art.
unidentified		Fantastic show tonight, guys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling this security steek calling from Albuquerque.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a couple quick questions.
unidentified		You've got me on the edge of my seat tonight.
		Actually, first question is a two-part question.
		I'll make it quick.
		About what you said about the Celsius warning nets, how they're pretty much being taken out.
		Yes.
		Does that mean, do you think that might be a smoke screen at all?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, just, as I said, I talked to, I've got a lot of family that's in the military.
		My uncle was an admiral in naval intelligence.
		My dad is a PR director for NASA.
		This fellow that called me last night, basically we were just sort of chatting about a couple of things, and he was just outraged at the fact that all of the cuts that the Clinton administration has made, when Clinton stands up and says, we've cut the size of government and cut personnel, he's saying, look, not a single bureaucrat's been fired.
		It's the fact that we're scaling down the military.
		We're taking whole battleships that we've spent billions of dollars on and just pouring cement down the cannons.
		We're sinking them to make reefs.
		They're talking about turning them into apartment buildings for the homeless.
		And that our entire submarine early warning net, which took us 25 years to build up, that had hundreds of people on it, that could track Soviet submarines, submarines all around the world, could track a submarine, send out a plane, drop a torpedo.
		This torpedo would then hunt it down and basically kill the prey.
		But this whole thing has been completely dismantled.
		And that most of the sensors have been turned off, and that now we've only got a handful, he said four guys, protecting both coasts of the United States, like two on the east coast and two on the west coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Essentially, only a shadow of what it once was.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, not only a shadow of it, but the fact that we've signed the SALT I and SALT II agreements have basically stated that it's like bad manners to defend cities in the United States from nuclear attack.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Political correctness.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And we've basically stripped this.
		And the other thing he was raging about was that the Japanese just sold supposedly 40 decommissioned submarines as scrap to the North Koreans.
		And these are diesel boats.
		They do run on electric batteries.
		They can run much more silently than an atomic submarine can underwater for some 10 odd days.
		And the North Koreans took bits and pieces from 40 of these submarines and actually got two of them to work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		So now they've got two diesel subs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The North Koreans who may have nuclear weapons.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Who have nuclear weapons, who have delivery systems.
		And he says that, and now, with a sub like this, they can sit 100 miles off the coast of New York and nuke New York and get away with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which is one of your predictions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time, first time.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Major prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right, all right, all right.
		We've got to go to the phones.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Hello.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, sir.
unidentified		I had a question for Mr. Morton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, where are you calling from?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm calling from Oregon, Portland, Oregon.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Mr. Morton, talk about the UFOs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of claim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe in it.
unidentified		But why are they coming to Earth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I've never met any myself.
		I've never asked them that question.
		All we can do is speculate.
		I mean, the whole field of UFO investigation is very much like a Zen cone.
		It ultimately doesn't make any sense.
		You ultimately run into black walls where all you can do is speculate what's on the other side of it.
		I mean, I can tell you my theory.
unidentified		Go ahead.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		And my theory is that I do believe that not only has the planet been visited since the beginning of recorded history, so this is not a recent thing at all.
		They've been reported in the Bible.
		Every ancient civilization has a very specific mythology based on this.
		But that there's the possibility that human beings themselves are a star-spanning race of beings, that we, in fact, come from other planets and other star systems and other solar systems and have traveled here through thousands of years and settled on this planet.
		It may be now that the Earth itself is a fascinating laboratory.
		If you look at it from what I believe to be an extraterrestrial point of view, and you look at the fact that on planet Earth, human beings live a very short period of time relative to their lifespans.
		Remember, human beings used to live 1,000 to about 1,500 years or so back in the bad old days in the Bible.
		Now we live to be about 100 or so, if we're lucky.
		We have very short lifespans.
		We breed very, very rapidly.
		And we mutate very favorably under a very harsh, very dirty radioactive sun.
		So we are the perfect laboratory for all of these species and beings to come from all over the universe to do experiments on.
		They pick people up.
		They'll do an experiment on the person.
		They'll put a probe on them, very much like a tracking device, like we put on an animal, put them back, see what their development is like, pick them up at a number of different points in their lives.
		Other people have put forward the theory that this one particular race of greys is at the end of a genetic breeding curve and that they are crossbreeding their race with humanity.
		The abductees that I've interviewed and had close personal contact with claim that they're taken on board the ship and that they are shown dozens, sometimes hundreds of children that are crossbred between our race and theirs because they claim that their race is in fact dying out.
		Now, as I said, these are speculations that are based primarily on what I believe to be first-hand contacts with these creatures.
		And all we can do is speculate.
		There is no proof here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I am Zad.
		I really like your characterization of us as beings sort of mutating out of control wildly under a dirty, radioactive sun.
		That's an interesting perspective.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Ert.
unidentified		This is Mokey in McChesney Park.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is it?
unidentified		Illinois?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I wanted to ask Sean if there was any one vision that he had about UFOs or anything that made him believe, I mean, one that stuck out more than all the other ones that made him believe that UFOs existed.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, the greatest thing for me was, I mean, I'd never seen anything like this before.
		I grew up with it when I was younger because my dad was a PR director at NASA.
		You know, Gordon Cooper was a good friend of ours.
		The astronauts would talk about things that they'd seen.
		And I'd never seen a UFO in my life until I went out to Area 51 in February of 1991.
		And we got within probably 500 yards of one of these devices bouncing between like 50 and about 250 feet off the ground.
		And we got within about 500 yards of this thing.
		And then I started going out to Area 51 and taking big gangs of people out there, and we'd all rent a bus, and we'd go camp out.
		And then I found the mountain peak that looks right down on the base.
		And, of course, from my efforts and a lot of efforts like Bob Lazar and George Knapp and some of the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what he asked was, have you had any visions that relate to UFOs?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the visions of it?
		I thought he was talking about personal experience.
		One of the major visions that I've had about these, and this is very, very far off in the future, because it comes about the year 2034, was, and this is going to be wild.
		These are projections that I've had, visions that I've had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, give it to us quickly, about 30 seconds.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Specifically what happens is that there is one particular day in which there's chaos on the planet, where the planet has been knocked off its axis specifically by being struck by a meteor, and that all of the various ships and UFOs and motherships and what have you appear for one day.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		And it's called the Day of Appearance, and it's the day in which all of the calendars, in fact, start over, and we are finally shown that the lights go up in the audience, and this silly passion play that we've been playing on the stage that we call Earth, finally we see that we have an audience out there watching us, judging our actions and not being very pleased with what's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, on that note, we'll pause and it is the bottom of the hour.
		This, of course, is Dreamland, which means it's Sunday.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		From the Kingdom of Nigh, this is Dreamland with Art Bell on the CBC Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and I'd like to wish you all good evening from the high desert, where it's a beautiful night, bright stars, and all the rest of that sort of stuff.
		I'm Art Bell.
		My guest is Sean David Morton, and he'll back in just a moment with more.
		And I've got a fax here that I want him to connect.
		In fact, I'll read that right now so he can think about it.
		Sean, I'd like to know your opinion of the chance of UFOs being time travel craft from a technocratic future society where humans have moved underground to escape the environmental disasters and wars prophesized to be coming.
		I believe this explains, one, why they have not contacted us, and two, their knowledge of geologic formations.
		And so when he returns an answer to that one.
		Fan of fire and watch it heat up well.
		Adding.
		Okay, now with respect to this facts from Youngstown, Ohio, Sean, time travelers from the future?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, it specifically goes back to what I was saying before, is that this is what's so fun and so fascinating and yet ultimately frustrating about the entire field is that ultimately all UFO investigation is a Zen cone.
		It ultimately doesn't make sense.
		You're always led to that black wall in the maze where you can only speculate what's on the other side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
unidentified		So it's as good a theory as any?
unidentified		Yes.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		It's as good a theory as any.
		There has to be some explanation as to why they seem to be indigenous to this planet.
		I mean, they've been here for thousands of years.
		The argument that's used against ufology is that why would these beings come from light years away and basically do nothing but abduct people and fly around our cities?
		Why don't they just grab a few people, take some rock samples, and go home?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David.
		Morton, where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Howdy, this is Jim.
unidentified		I'm calling from Milwaukee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim.
unidentified		I wanted to ask him if he had any predictions on Michael Jackson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Michael Jackson?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		No, because, you know, whatever happens to Michael Jackson, I don't think has any real effect or bearing on the future of humanity.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		And the only reason I got into this in the first place was to specifically warn people about things that I saw coming up and eventually try to help people start establishing spiritual communities and spiritual brotherhood so that they can be ready for a lot of these things when they happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, how you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you?
unidentified		My name is Jim.
unidentified		I'm calling from Fresno.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Jim, KMJ.
unidentified		And how you doing, Sean?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
unidentified		Thanks, Jim.
		I want to call about the paranormal occurrences happening.
		And I feel that there are seven dimensions the Bible talks about.
		And I believe that the physical, which we're living in now, is dimension one.
		And the astral world, which is the second dimension, is thinning.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Is the what?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry?
unidentified		Is thinning.
		Is the ill between these two dimensions are thinning.
		Yes.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I believe you're exactly right.
		And this has a lot to do with what we were talking about earlier, about how we're mentally moving out of four-dimensional space, height, width, breadth, and time, far more quickly into a fifth-dimensional aspect of mind.
		And a lot of the reason for this shift is the fact that we are very much becoming a global consciousness thanks to television, radio, fax machines.
		I mean, all of this technology that we have now, telecommunications, is in fact just kindergarten for the real telecommunications, which is in fact telepathy, the whole planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's going along with the ozone, huh?
unidentified		Yes, exactly.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		The whole planet all coming together.
		But yes, things are very much speeding up specifically because of consciousness.
		We're running out of time because time itself is getting shorter as our minds begin to expand and we take in more and more information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, hi.
		My name is Carolyn.
		I'm calling from Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Carolyn.
unidentified		And my question is, like, do you see anything happening in Seattle like any earthquake in 1995?
		And if so, how soon should the person should move?
		And what do you see is going to happen in St. Louis, Missouri, is St. Louis and Denver, Colorado, safe late to go from Seattle to St. Louis or Denver?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Okay, specifically, what I've been talking about for quite some time is to watch for a series of earthquakes, very severe jolts at the base of Mount Rainier near Seattle in the range of about a six, as I said, as high as a 6.5, but no bigger than a 6, as a direct precursor to Mount Rainier, exploding.
		The other thing is, too, is that, as we were stating before, volcanism is a pretty exact science, and there will be warnings and steam flumes and ways in which scientists can actually detect whether or not Mount Rainier is going to go.
		So it's not going to take anybody as any big surprise whether or not they'll actually evacuate sections of Seattle before they get the signal.
		I'm not sure.
		As far as St. Louis, Missouri goes, yes, you will have a great deal of problems with flooding in the Midwest this year, problems with dusters, tornadoes in the central part of the United States.
		I believe that after the quakes in California come later this year, I'm seeing the window being February, but larger quakes happening in October, you're going to have eventually the eruption of the New Madrid Fault, which runs generally through that area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Sean, we have been, I've just noticed, if you think about it a little bit, the people sitting back on the East Coast right now must feel very smug.
		We've Talked about the Midwest now, the West Coast a very great deal, the Northwest a lot, even Alaska and Hawaii.
		What about the people back east?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, specifically, once again, the areas of Georgia are going to continue to experience a great deal of inundation.
		Florida, up along the coast also, the Carolinas are going to have very severe problems with storms and much, much larger hurricanes.
		After a series of quakes in California also, the continent itself is going to begin to flux back and forth.
		And New York has already had a series of quakes in the realm of like between 3.5 and about 4.5 in the upstate New York area.
		If New York gets hit with a quake of a 5 to 5 and a half or so, you have to remember that the entire New York utility system is all built with wooden pipes that's very, very old and rotted.
		The specific things that I see happening as far as New York goes is I do see, once again, the atomic attack on New York in July of 1999, which is a linchpin of a large number of the Nostrodalmian prophecies, specifically a nuclear attack from a submarine by the Iranians, by the Islamic Jihad.
		Now, the first attack is actually the city is defended.
		It does manage to knock out a great deal of the electricity in that entire area with bombs that are exploding above land in the sky, probably 30,000 to 50,000 feet up.
		Then areas of New York are going to be evacuated into New Jersey and into the Meadowlands.
		I do see as part of the final phase of the war, and the United States will not be that involved in the wars in Europe.
		We will be involved in the opening volleys of the wars there, and then we'll decide that it's none of our business, and we're basically going to leave the Europeans to hang out to dry.
		But I do see in late in the year 2001 a pair of chemical bombs exploding over both Washington, D.C. and New York that drop a snow-like substance.
		Now, both of these cities, I believe, will be relatively evacuated by that time.
		But I do see some sort of chemical warfare that takes place specifically because of this final conflict of the alliance with China, the various nations of Islam, Africa, and then Russia, NATO, and the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, I'm glad I asked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you're not.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
		Ahi.
unidentified		Hi, how are you all doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Good, thanks.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Bob Keipe Chico.
		Hi, Bob.
		Yeah, Mr. Morton, got to mention a Bible a couple of times referring to U.S. Board.
		The only thing I've ever encountered in the Bible is the book of Ezekiel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ezekiel.
unidentified		Ezekiel.
unidentified		Is that the one and only reference?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends on how you interpret them.
		I mean, you know, throughout the Bible, you have references to flaming tabernacles, the flying mountain of God, the wheels within wheels that Ezekiel speaks of, the chariots of fire that are spoken of in the book of Judges and Elijah.
		You're constantly having very tall, blonde-haired men who are either flying about in these flying chariots or actually visiting cities like Sodom and Gomorrah before entire cities are destroyed.
		You have the clouds that always seem to precede these, the thunderous music that sounds like trumpets, very, very much like modern-day UFO activity.
		It's my opinion that much of what you see in the Bible has a great deal to do with what appears to be extraterrestrial contact and visions and dreams and prophecies which are given to people in those days, basically talking about natural catastrophes,
		massive earthquakes, disasters, relating directly to the fact that unless people behave in a certain moral manner in a certain way, directly obedient to the laws that are laid down in the first five books of the Old Testament, that your country is destroyed over a period of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Sean, we have very little time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see how many questions we can answer.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me just make one pitch here, Art, once again for the newsletter.
unidentified		Sure.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, Art.
unidentified		Sean, this is Bryce.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		How you doing, Bryce?
unidentified		Hi.
		A question not so much on the future, Sean, but on the past.
		What do you know about the occult forces prior to Nazi Germany and that Hitler utilized to start his reign of terror?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a couple of books on it that are pretty interesting.
		There's Morning of the Magicians by Jacques Rugere.
		There's The Spirit of Destiny, which talks about the occult influences on Hitler.
		You know, it was a period or a time of antichrists, quite literally, of world leaders that were trying to centralize power.
		You can probably throw Stalin and Churchill and Tojo and FDR, all sort of together in that aspect of these monoliths warring back and forth for control.
		I think you're going to see the same type of thing, the same things that made Nazi Germany possible are basically starting today with what's happening with the breakup of the Soviet Union, each one of those little republics becoming independent, allowing them to possibly be taken over one by one.
		Certainly the strife in Bosnia, which was a precursor to not only World War II, but also World War I as well.
		I think people, if you go back into our history back in the 1890s, William McKinley, who was also, who was elected in 1890, was shot by a Serbian, assassinated by a Serbian because the United States was involved in the Serbian conflict exactly the way we are now.
		So I don't know if that's where do you see China, and I'll just hang up and listen.
		Specifically, the role that China has to play in this is going to be that there are only two world power structures economically that are not aligned with the Rothschild-Rockefeller economic, military, industrial complex, and those are China specifically and Islam.
		They are the only two basically power blocks left that are not into the interest-banking Western Rothschild-run system.
		And eventually, the West and China and Islam must eventually come to blows because of the diametrically opposed economic systems of these two structures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have always believed that myself, Sean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Sean David Morton.
unidentified		Hi.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Hi, this is Mary Ann in Kent, Washington.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Marianne.
unidentified		Hi.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		I have a question.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm right underneath Mount Rainier, and I felt the 5.0 earthquake.
unidentified		Yes.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And I'm thinking of moving to Reno, Nevada.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good move or not, Sean?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		No, I think Reno is good.
		As a matter of fact, even though there were some quakes, they had a substantial quake of 6.0 in Gardnerville, which is just south of Tahoe.
		Reno is going to be a fabulous place.
		Colorado is going to be a good place.
		I mean, just to make it clear between myself and between many other people who talk about these coming earth changes, it is not my belief that Colorado is going to be the new west coast of the United States.
		I personally, in the visions that I have seen, simply flat out do not believe that's going to happen.
		As of 1996, there will be a series of quakes from 1996 until about 2005 that are going to quite specifically take out possibly between five and maybe 20 to 30 miles of coastline in California,
		with the two cities being the most damaged being San Francisco and San Diego, with large chunks of California literally breaking off and a fissure coming up along the San Andreas Fault between where the crotch point is, between Baja and Mexico, along with volcanic activity in the Bahamas,
		specifically on the island of Martinique with the eruption of Mount Pele, that is going to cause a land mass to begin to rise on the eastern part of the United States, which will submerge sections of, pretty substantial sections of Florida and big chunks of the East Coast.
		This leads to the economic crippling of the United States and the United States turning in upon itself where the U.S. will then break up into what I have seen as being 13 independent countries with Canada and Mexico as part of what by 2005 will no longer be called the United States, but in fact the NAU, the North American Union.
		And the flag of the North American Union is actually the old revolutionary colonial flag.
		It's a yellow flag.
		It's called the Gaspon flag, and it's got a serpent on it that says, don't tread on me.
		And that is going to be the new flag of what will be called the new states or the new North American Union.
		And when the economy of the federal government begins to collapse, due to the collapse of the Japanese economy, due to various natural catastrophes, you are going to see various states begin to secede from the Union.
		And it's going to be a foot race.
		And this is for your people in Alaska and Hawaii again.
		It will be a foot race between Texas, Montana, Alaska, and Hawaii as to who is going to be the first to secede.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		I would have guessed certainly the same states.
		There are rumblings, of course, in all of those states, Sean.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, as we speak now, the Montanans, very noble people that they are, are in the process of putting an initiative on the ballot for Montana to secede from the Union based on Article 1, Section 3 of their state constitution that basically states that they feel the federal government is in violation of the Bill of Rights because of the crime bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, all right.
		We have very little time.
		What response would you expect from the federal government, Sean, very quickly, should Montana or any other state secede?
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think you'll see the same response there as you're seeing in Chechny right now.
		We have U.S. Special Forces troops in Chechny acting as advisors to the Russians that are basically doing the urban warfare with the Chechny rebels.
		Those troops were trained here in the United States outside of Tucson, Arizona, and in Texas to do exactly what it is they're doing in Chechnya right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend, we are out of time.
		Sean, we will do this again.
		It has always, has always been a great pleasure having you on.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		It's always a wonderful experience, Art.
sean david morton ▲ ● ▼		You're doing God's work, and I really appreciate it, and your fans appreciate it, and I just hear nothing but great things about you from people who write me, who just, who say they just wouldn't know what was going on if it wasn't for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
		And good night.
		Sean David Morton.
		And that, ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry, is all the time we have.
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		This has been Dreamland, a program dedicated to an examination of areas in the human experience not easily nor neatly put in a box.
		Things seen at the edge of vision, awakening a part of the mind as yet not matched.
		Yet things every bit as real as the air we breathe but don't see.

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