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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening.
		Good morning.
		Welcome to Coast to Coast AM, live talk radio throughout the nighttime on the CBC Radio Network.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Hi, everybody.
		It's good to be here.
		I'm barely here.
		My dentist did me some damage today.
		I don't get numb that easily for dental work, and so it took about four shots in the guns.
		And I don't think it's the dental work that's hurting me.
		I think it's a shot's guns.
unidentified		Oh, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, that's out of my life for a couple more weeks, and then I'm back for part two.
		Like a rematch or something.
		Anyway, hello.
		We were going to have a guest this evening, but I think I got the date wrong.
		I called the hotel in Las Vegas where my guest was supposed to be, and my guest is not even due to check in for a couple of days.
		So I think my guest is on next week, and it's going to be an interesting appearance.
		It's on a virtual reality, perhaps even the darker aspect of virtual reality.
		My guest is going to be next week, I guess, from Penthouse Magazine, and they're doing a really strange thing with virtual reality and computers.
		And so that'll be next week, next Thursday, I guess, not this Thursday.
		Now, tomorrow night, we are going to have a guest.
		Tomorrow night is going to be a fascinating night.
		If you have been one of those people curious about the new diseases, you're going to not want to miss Lindsay Williams.
		Lindsay will be here talking about all the bad stuff.
		Stuff you heard about on 48 Hours, 60 Minutes from the CDC, Strepe, you know, the bug that eats your face.
		New diseases that may pop up, like the one that killed so many so quickly in Africa.
		AIDS, other diseases, new diseases that we don't even know about that no doubt are coming.
		So that'll be tomorrow evening at this time, and I guess we'll have our guest from Penthouse next week.
		You guys know me.
		I'm liable to do anything.
		All right.
		This is, since we do have a guest tomorrow night, this is going to be kind of more like a Friday night Saturday.
		And there are a lot of people off, as a matter of fact, on Friday anyway, aren't there?
		So maybe it is more, even more than I think, very much like Friday night, Saturday morning.
		Anyway, good to have you.
		We're getting new affiliates.
		We've got a new affiliate coming Monday in Liberal, Kansas.
		As a matter of fact, if I can find it, I really ought to talk to you about that right now.
		What happened is my little clipboard fell down before the program, and I had to pick it up.
		Here it is.
		KSCB in Liberal, Kansas.
		And we're going to be welcoming them aboard on the 14th of October.
		October 14th.
		And I think that's...
		Yeah, that'll be just early next week.
		Also, another one, WJTNAM in Jamestown, New York will be joining us.
		And we've got yet another New York affiliate on the way.
		I think I'll have the call letters in the next day or so.
		And so the network continues to build at a rapid, very rapid clip.
		All right, the news of the day, such as it is.
		187.
		As you all know, it passed overwhelmingly.
		California is in a big argument with itself over 187 right now, which, of course, greatly restricts or even eliminates services to illegal immigrants.
		It's also tied up in court right now and in protest as well.
		There was an emergency session of the L.A. County supervisors yesterday, and one of them, Mike Antonovich, said, quote, California is not to be a sanctuary for those who deliberately break the law.
		Uncle Sam is not Uncle Sugar, end quote.
		A Hispanic supervisor, Gloria Molina, said, quote, we have not only a public health crisis, but we have a duty and a responsibility for the overall well-being of L.A. Los Angeles County residents, end quote.
		Now let's think about that statement.
		Very carefully chosen words designed to apparently include all residents, including illegal residents.
		Again, she said, quote, we have not only a public health crisis, but we have a duty and a responsibility for the overall well-being of Los Angeles County residents.
		If, indeed, as I would read it, those are carefully chosen words to say we have a duty and responsibility to take care of illegal immigrants, I say baloney.
		I actually say a lot more than that, but I can't say it to you on the radio.
		I'm sure you get the idea.
		It's beginning to get violent.
		Last night at California State University at L.A., there was an anti-187 rally.
		It turned ugly.
		The police ended up dragging several people off.
		20 were arrested.
		In Arizona and New Mexico, a number of Lawmakers there are already saying they are considering similar laws.
		So, as I told you last night, and I think I'm vindicated by that tonight, it would quickly spread, and those states concerned about the possible immigration of those who would leave California because of 187 are now suddenly very concerned and wanting to consider similar legislation themselves.
		Now, let's look at what's going on.
		It's in the courts right now, as you know.
		And down in Texas, the equal protection provision of the Constitution was cited by a judge as the reason to rule that even illegal immigrants must be included in the state's school system down in Texas.
		However, if you check into that ruling, you'll find the judge in that case stated that if any damage could be shown, that is damage to the school system or to the students, citizens of this country, the ruling would have gone the other way.
		So in other words, if Texas could have shown there was damage to the school system, to the people, or to the citizens of Texas, the ruling would have gone the other way.
	Now, in California, I don't think there is any question about the damage.
	The Urban Institute estimates that in seven key Western states, here in the Southwest mostly, get this now, the cost of educating 641,000 children here illegally is $3.1 billion.
	$3.1 billion.
	Incarcerating 21,000 illegal immigrants, which is the number we've got in a pokey, will cost 400, or is costing $471 million for a great grand total of $3,571,000,000.
	California's share of that, according to the Urban Institute, is $1,668,000,000.
	That's what California has to pay.
	Now, in my opinion, and without question, crowded classrooms, overburdened facilities, budgets in meltdown absolutely constitute real and documentable damage.
	Therefore, it is my firm view that 187 should be and will be tested in the courts.
	Do not despair of the injunction, the temporary restraining order against 187.
	We should want it to be tested, ladies and gentlemen.
	Because you see, ultimately, it is not the job of the states to enforce immigration rules and regulation in law.
	It is the job of the federal government.
	And in effect, as this winds its way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, it's my view that it will be held to be constitutional, that it will be held that the Equal Protection Clause does not apply, absolutely does not apply,
	and that it is damaging severely even California's budget, California's educational system, and I believe that it's going to be held to be fully and absolutely constitutional.
	One Hispanic protester yesterday in Texas worried that, uh-oh, all of this might be coming to Texas, and he was on TV NBC yesterday yelling, quote, we give millions and millions of dollars to dictators while our Mexican children are going to be kicked out of school, end quote.
	So, if 187, in your opinion, is constitutional, and in my opinion, 187 is indeed constitutional, as a matter of fact, it is the job actually of the federal government to do all of this, then you should not fear or be angry about a court test.
	It's absolutely inevitable.
	Only thing is, I think we're going to win.
	And when I say win, in effect, it's going to order the federal government to damn well start doing their job.
	So, that's my view of things.
	You may have some comments on 187.
	I'm sure you do.
	Everybody seems to.
	Here's a fax on the subject from our liberal down in Phoenix, Doc Berry.
	Maybe conservatives, he says, are right that Prop 187 is not racist.
	The proposition will, he says, deport illegals that are criminals, stop illegals from entering the U.S., stop the hiring of illegals by citizens, prevent illegals from living on welfare.
	If Prop 187 doesn't do the above, maybe it is designed to send a message about all the red-headed, freckled illegals from the socialist Scandinavian countries like Denmark and Sweden.
	Racist bigots message that is aimed at children.
	That is 187.
	Like looters, you hate brown-skinned children, he says, meaning me.
	You class them with gay Marines and women combat pilots.
	Slime erupts, says Doc Berry in Phoenix.
	So obviously what he means by this is Quite clearly, why, yes, we are racist.
	Yes, we hate brown-skinned people, and on and on and on.
	Well, it's not the first time I've been accused of that, Doc.
	And I understand that when you liberals run out of gas on any subject intellectually, you charge racism.
	And I think you were out of gas on this one, Doc, weeks ago.
	If you wish to think me racist and hating brown-skinned children, Doc, you just go right ahead.
	It's not going to cause me to shrink away from support of something that would possibly give the educational system in this country, in this part of the country, back to the students and back to the taxpayers, which is where it belongs, not the hands of anybody from anywhere else, period.
	Trouble liberals is their compassion is mindless and endless.
unidentified		Trouble liberals is their compassion.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Newt Gingrich, the likely new Speaker of the House of Representatives, is upset.
		He's upset with the Washington Post, probably not the first time he's been upset with the Post, which yesterday quoted Mr. Gingrich as referring to Mr. Clinton, or actually the Clintons, plural, even though you don't see much of her these days, as, quote, counterculture McGovernics.
		Counterculture McGovernics.
		Plus, he referred, according to the Post, to those folks who work for the Clintons as left-wing elitists.
		Mr. Gingrich is angry.
		He is being portrayed by the left-wing press as a right-wing bomb thrower.
		And he said he's been trying to be good lately, and the Washington Post has quoted him, he said, out of context.
		To me, it sounds like something Gingrich did say, and I don't think he ought to shrink from it.
		They are counter-culture McGoverniks.
		They are left-wing elitists in the White House.
		Why apologize for that?
		Why would people like Newt Gingrich, admittedly a bombthrower, political bomb thrower, why would he want to change what has propelled him as far as he has gone now?
		If he becomes a wimp, then he'll just be like the rest of them.
		Which, by the way, on some subjects he is anyway.
		There is a new NBC Wall Street Journal poll actually that asks a number of questions, and I think you'll find it pretty bad news for the press.
		Question one was, who should take the lead nationally in policymaking, President Clinton or Congress?
		What do you think the answer to that was?
		55% of the people responding said Congress.
		30% of the people responding, not 43% by the way, 30% said President Clinton should take the lead.
		Now, 56% of the people responding say the reason they elected Republicans to the House and Senate is because of their pledge, get this, to cut taxes and welfare payments.
		All of this is really, really bad news for the president.
		By the way, the siege of the tobacco company executives and the tobacco companies by good old Henry Waxman is now history.
		The new chairman, Bliley, says he's going to end all this nonsense.
		Henry Waxman says it's a terrible blow to the health of the American people.
		He was chairman, I say was past tense, of the House Subcommittee on Health.
		Bliley is the new chairman.
		The tobacco investigations and summoning and grueling will end.
		As for the president, he's off to Asia, getting out of the country.
		Listen to this now.
		Here's the way NBC put it.
		Quote, following the Tuesday election, which according to NBC brought him such despair, the president was in despair.
		Now, we're all curious what the press is going to do now.
		Will his agenda change?
		Again, back to the NBC poll for a second.
		62% of the people responding say they want real change, real change in the way the president is leading the country.
		Mr. Clinton has never been lower.
		There is a late NBC poll on a preference between Bill Clinton and Bob Dole.
		And if the election were held today, Mr. Clinton would get 39%, and for the first time, Bob Dole would get 45%.
		So in other words, Bob Dole would beat the pants off the pasty thighs of Mr. Clinton in an election held today.
		Andrew Kohut of the Times-Mirror Center said, quote, it means the public didn't like his performance in the first two years.
		It means they feel Washington needs a very big shake-up, end quote.
		The American public didn't much like what Mr. Clinton did on the first couple of years, and they want a real shake-up.
		So that is why they have done what they've done.
		But get this, ladies and gentlemen, even today, after saying he got the message, after looking like he swallowed a frog, Mr. Clinton launched into a long, a somewhat rambling defense of his agenda.
		In other words, on the one hand, he said, Oh, I get the message, but on the other hand, I'm sorry.
		He did nothing but defend right down the line every single item on his agenda.
		So I think we can fairly ask, does he really get it?
		And I think the answer is, no, he really doesn't.
		I thought he might come out conciliatory, ready to embrace the Republicans, at least to some degree.
		But it's clear that he's not going to do that.
		He's going to try and stick to his agenda.
		And if he does that, there's going to be blood, political blood on the floor.
		And Mr. Clinton's going to be a lame duck.
		Nothing's going to get done for two years.
		The Congress will propose.
		He will veto.
		He will propose.
		The Congress will dispose.
		In other words, gridlock, nothing's going to happen.
		And in two years, he's going to be political history.
		Enough time to get the numbers out here.
		A couple of more items.
		We'll do the bottom of the hour break and then start two-way talk.
		First-time callers to the program can call at area code 702-727-1222.
	The wildcard line callers, area code 702-727-1295.
	702-727-1295.
	And finally, if you're east of the Great Rocky Mountains anywhere, the number is 1-800-618-8255.
	That's 1-800-618-8255.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		We'll be right back.
		Thank you.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back to the program.
		I am Art Bell and in a little pain this morning, but I have good drugs if I need them.
		That'll make an interesting show, wouldn't it?
unidentified		Dentists give great drugs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Volunteer work.
		Volunteer work.
		Not a great subject, you'd think, but it really is.
		More and more high schools around the country are requiring volunteer work.
		That's right, requiring, mandating that you volunteer before you graduate.
		You've got to have 40 hours of community service.
		17-year-old Daniel may not graduate.
		He is refusing to volunteer.
		His attorney says the requirement to volunteer violates the 13th Amendment, a ban on slavery.
		He's actually going to run it on this issue.
		He says it's slavery.
		Now, the school in court defended the requirement to volunteer by saying, quote, we are teaching citizenship in an activist way, end quote.
		That is the defense.
		About, this is not a trivial issue, about a third of all schools across the country will have mandatory volunteerism, which is a stupid phrase anyway, by next year.
		And I think it's a good thing that students work in the community.
		It is a good thing.
		But I don't think they ought to call it, for one thing, they shouldn't call it mandatory volunteerism.
		I guess it has to be because it is community service.
		But you cannot have mandatory volunteerism.
		I don't think.
		So do you think that program, that students should have to do that?
		As a matter of fact, if you don't, you don't graduate.
		Volunteer or else.
		Do you endorse that?
		Good a program as it is.
		What do you think about making it mandatory?
		And I've got a bunch of different facts that are about like this.
		It happened again tonight.
		A few times earlier this evening, we had two or three of those silent sonic waves pass through the San Diego area.
		Windows shaking violently, no accompanying audible booms or earthquakes.
		What in the world is the military or is it the aliens up to?
		Ooh, that's a good question.
		I've got a number of, well, here's another one.
		Aren't there have been numerous reports of windows rattling all over San Diego County twice this evening?
		I experienced one episode where earthquake-type shaking of my second story went on for nearly 15 seconds.
		About 15 to 10 to 20 minutes, I wasn't paying attention before the stronger shaker occurred.
		I saw what appeared to be two sets of lights laid out in triangles converging.
		It appeared like two sets of lights on large jets going in opposite directions.
		Now, I'm questioning if it wasn't one of those triangular airships that are mentioned on your program.
		Well, who knows?
		But indeed, there are a lot of shaking things like that going on in San Diego.
		Anybody have any idea?
		Maybe the Aurora out over the ocean somewhere?
		What is the Aurora?
		A new aircraft?
		Can I describe it?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We just know it's there.
		One other item, and then I'll get the phones open.
		Teasing.
		Teasing.
		Now, there's a strange subject for talk radio, huh?
		Teasing.
		Remember, when you were a kid, everybody teased everybody.
		I mean, you fool around with my name a little bit, and you can realize the names I can be called and have been called many times, both as a youngster and, by the way, also as an adult.
		Teasing.
		Teasing between kids has gone on for as long as we've had kids.
		NBC did a big piece on it yesterday.
		And it is true, teasing used to lead to, maybe, a fist fight these days.
		It leads more frequently or as frequently to gunfights.
		Kids bring out guns.
		So the schools are trying to get the teasing stopped.
		And I just wonder if this is the right approach to stop the teasing or if we need to look at deeper behavioral problems.
		What do you think?
		All right, let's do a little two-way talk radio, shall we?
		On our toll-free line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		It's Bryce and Wichita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bryce.
unidentified		Green if you fully on Prop 187 in Texas, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		I think we need it.
unidentified		And Germany's done it, and France is doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't really need the several states, if you'll pardon the phrase, doing it on their own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is a federal job.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what needs to happen is the federal government needs to begin to do its job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if 187 is held to be constitutional, I believe it's going to force the Fed's hands.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Here in Kansas, Senator Dole is very concerned about the amount of phone calls he's been getting, well, for really the past three or four months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On GATT?
unidentified		On GATT.
		And he wants to try to explain GATT to the American people to the Kansas population.
		Maybe bring Mickey Canner here or somebody to explain it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the pro side of GATT, I do want to say this.
		I think it was a Time magazine article I was reading earlier today.
		GATT, if implemented, they claim, would bring the equivalent of $1,500, put it into the wallet of every American.
unidentified		Well, I don't really agree with those figures, but what I really, really don't want to see, I don't think something as important as GATT should be voted on in the lame duck session.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're damn right.
unidentified		And I think people need to really let Senator Dole know that we want the new Congress, the new Senate, to vote on this important issue, also to get it out of fast track so if there are some bad things in there that we can't amend them and, you know, and work on it, because there's no hurry on it.
unidentified		We don't have to implement it until July of 95.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are correct again.
		The same Time magazine article I read said, the reason that Bill Clinton is in such a hurry for a GATT is that the real spendable income of the average U.S. citizen was reduced by something in the order of about $200 this last year.
		And you see, it goes to the reason why I think this president is in so much trouble.
		They say the economy is okay, but individually, people in the country don't feel okay.
		And it's because, in fact, they are not okay.
		They're barely treading water and maybe losing a little bit of ground.
		And that's the real truth, and that's the reason that Mr. Clinton wants to hurry GATT on along.
unidentified		Well, I also think that GATT is promoted by the major multinationals, and there's a lot of big money behind it pushing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sure.
		Look, I'm not sure that all aspects of GATT are bad.
		They're not.
unidentified		Well, I'm not either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I do agree that, A, it should not be considered in a one-day lame duck session.
		That is outrageous.
		They don't know what the hell they're voting on.
		We should get it delayed at least until the brand new Congress comes.
		You're absolutely correct.
unidentified		I wish people would call their senators and their congressmen and their new ones and their old ones and let them know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
		Thanks for the call.
		That was a good call, too, from Wichita.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, good morning, Art.
unidentified		Remember last month you asked who was the real power in Washington?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I said it was the Lord Jesus Christ, and you said that was blasphemous.
unidentified		Would you like to recant that now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		You wouldn't?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
		Not after all.
		Whether it's Democrats or Republicans, to equate them with our Lord God is blasphemy, in my opinion.
unidentified		Well, I think he allows all these things to happen.
		Art, as far as Clinton goes, I think he's going to go along with the Republicans.
		I think he wants to look like a great president.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how you can make that out of what he said yesterday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The man gave a Fidel Castro-type rambling speech defending his agenda, on the one hand, saying he's going to cooperate with the Republicans, but on the other hand, defending every single thing that he's wanted to do that the American people just said, we don't want to do.
unidentified		Art, what's going to happen is this.
		He's going to see that any conciliation he makes to the Republicans is going to make his numbers go up in the polls.
		Once he sees that, this guy, or excuse me, the president, is going to jump all over that.
		All he wants, in my opinion, is to save his own height.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you are predicting behavior that he is not exhibiting.
unidentified		Oh, but wait.
		The polls haven't reflected.
		He hasn't worked with any Republicans yet.
		Wait, for example, if a line item veto goes through, what?
		He'll look at the poll numbers.
		Forget it.
		I think he'll drop the Democrats because he wants to make himself...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He did make one, thank you for the call, very snide remark yesterday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He suggested that with the current makeup of Congress, the idea of term limits, which are mainly forwarded by Republicans, according to the president, beginning to look better and better to him every day.
unidentified		Gunshot
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Toll-free line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Anthony, Mr. Friday night from St. Louis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		It's not Friday, but I'm off tomorrow from school.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, congratulations.
unidentified		Speaking of school, I am required to do community service hours to graduate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many?
unidentified		Six year for four years for a grant total of $240.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		$240, yeah?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And do they call it mandatory service?
unidentified		Well, they call it required community service.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand.
		Required.
		That is a requirement that you volunteer.
unidentified		No, it's an requirement that you perform service.
unidentified		They squeal out of it by using...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Therefore, it is volunteerism.
unidentified		Yeah, I guess you could say that.
		I haven't formed an opinion either way, but I want to talk about the revolution that happened Tuesday.
		I want to say, first of all, I think the funniest thing of it is that Sonny Bono is part of this revolution.
		I can just imagine on January 4th, they all get sworn in, and they'll be singing, I got you, babe, at the inauguration party.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's cute, but Sonny Bono's okay.
		You know, he's all right.
		Wonder what Cher thinks of this, huh?
		I mean, Sonny's now pretty successful, right?
		Sonny's going to Congress.
		He's pretty successful.
		I haven't heard from Cher lately, have you?
		So, reversal of fortunes, eh?
		On the first-time caller line, your aunt call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
		No, Tim, we don't allow people to use last names on the air part of it.
		So let's try it all over again.
		Just simply say this is Tim from Medford, Oregon.
unidentified		This is Tim.
unidentified		I'm in Medford, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Tim.
unidentified		I'd just like to make a couple comments, and then I'll get off the line here.
		All right, go ahead.
		First of all, I'd like to talk about that measure 187 in California.
		I do support the issue, and I think that the majority of the people that have put that initiative on the ballot are right in tune with a lot of other people in the United States.
		We all feel the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
unidentified		However, I do have a lot of concerns.
unidentified		Living in Oregon, I think, you know, since this thing passed, people in Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, we may weep some of the people coming up this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fallout.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Once they don't receive the benefits, they'll go to other places.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, see, that's what I've been trying to say all along.
		It was inevitable.
		Other states are going to now begin to move on it.
		It is not the job of the states.
		The only reason this is happening is because the idiot feds aren't doing their job.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		And I think in two years from now, Oregon will probably have the same measure on our ballot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope it doesn't have to come to that.
unidentified		Well, here's another concern I have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if it gets to the point where the states have got to do their own international border crossing policing, then what do we need the feds for at all?
unidentified		That's true.
		Well, here's another issue.
		Currently, all these illegal aliens and people, all the children are in school eight hours a day.
		At least they're kind of like monitored.
		We know what they're doing.
		You take these kids, you put them on the streets, you say you can't go to school any longer.
		What are these kids going to do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, you're missing the point, sir.
		They shouldn't just come out of school.
		They ought to go back home.
		Now listen to me.
		It should be Tijuana that should be worrying about what they're going to be doing, not San Diego.
		You follow me?
unidentified		I do understand that.
		I think it's a great problem, and I support it 100%.
		But do you think the government is actually going to take these people and deport them back?
		I don't think we have the manpower, the money, the resources, and I think we...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, we don't have the money, the manpower, the resources.
		Right now, having them here is costing three upwards of $4 billion.
		So what are you talking about?
		We don't have the resources.
		If we took half a billion dollars and put it into border enforcement, into ejecting those who are not here legally, half a billion, I say, we would end up saving conservatively $3 billion.
		So I don't know what you're talking about.
		What we can't afford is to let it continue the way it's going right now.
		That's what we can't afford.
		On the first-time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art, this is Dave calling from Portland, Oregon.
		Hello.
		On 1190KEX.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way to do it, Dave.
unidentified		Hey, yeah, I wanted to talk about the sonic boom thing you were talking about earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think it is?
unidentified		Hey, yeah, I was wondering if you were familiar with the soft kill technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Soft kill.
unidentified		Yeah, it's a new thing that the military is developing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By that, do you mean the next generation of laser weapons, that sort of thing?
unidentified		Yeah, sort of.
		Laser weapons are like one of the uses of them.
		They use lasers to blind the enemy or things like that.
		They got the sticky foam stuff that they use to immobilize tanks and jeeps and people.
		They also have this subsonic thing that they use with sound frequencies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think they're testing this out on San Diego?
unidentified		I think they're probably testing it out in the neighborhood, yeah.
unidentified		Because they're trying to develop, I was reading in Popular Science, they're trying to develop how to deliver it in a safe way for the troops to be able to use it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		Well, I don't know what to say to that.
		It might be.
		It's as good a theory as anybody else's.
unidentified		Yeah, it's a good article in Popular Science.
		I'm not sure which issue it is.
		But I also wanted to say hi to the Bronx brother.
		He's down in San Diego on vacation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, hopefully he's listening.
		Bronx brother, good morning.
		So you're not supposed to do those things, really, but of course they just sort of slip out.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Colin from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		San Diego, land of the soft food.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say soft kill.
unidentified		About Clinton, I agree with you that he's now the same as a lame duck.
unidentified		And I also believe that he's going to be coming under intense investigation for Watergate and probably many other things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
unidentified		And he's going to be rendered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not Watergate.
		They'll let that one go with Nixon.
		Whitewater.
		Yes, thank you.
unidentified		Everybody gets that confused.
unidentified		What I'm thinking is I'd like to kind of pose a question for the audience and for you is should Clinton, for the good of the country, should he offer his resignation?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ooh.
		That is, all right.
		Thank you.
		That is actually a pretty interesting question.
		Do you think this last election, along with the post-election surveys that show it was indeed in effect a referendum on the Clinton administration, since we don't have votes of confidence in our system in this country, and we don't, we don't have them.
		He's entitled to stay in office for a couple of more years.
		But in effect, since this election has been shown to be such a referendum on the work of Mr. Clinton, do you think that he should resign?
		That he should offer to resign now?
		Now, bear in mind, if he does resign, that's going to mean we get the guy who looks like he's got a board strapped to his butt, the vice president, and straight up his bad.
		I've never seen anybody sits at attention the way the vice president does.
		Al Gore would be president.
		How many of you think the president ought to resign?
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		This is John from Kansas City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, John.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
unidentified		Oh, nothing much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's on your mind?
unidentified		Well, one thing, I can't wait till your program tomorrow night because it kind of ties in what I'm going to do when I go into the Army.
unidentified		I'm going to be a chemical operations specialist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're going to design new killer biological agents, eh, John?
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a dream.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, and Test Mountain, Kansas City.
unidentified		No, part of my job is to, that part would be in containment to make sure that those weapons were ever used, make sure the troops survived.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what they tell you, John, but I've seen the movies, John, and you're always working on biological killer stuff.
unidentified		Oh, oh, well, maybe I'll just, oh, maybe I can come over to your place and show you some of the stuff I was working on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, that'd be great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, bring over a little briefcase full of test tubes with orange and green sticky liquid.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, and that would make a good show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great, John.
unidentified		And just one thing, you know, it's like this 187 business.
		Talking about like health, this is this one thing that kind of concerns me about this proposition.
		I agree with it totally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What concerns you, John?
unidentified		Well, it's the health aspect of it.
unidentified		Like in Los Angeles County, not very many people know it, but you know, for the past 14 years that the LA County Health has been trying to keep a cap on a major tuberculosis outbreak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		Oh, I can see.
		All right, John.
		Thank you.
		I can see you're going to be looking forward to my show tomorrow night.
		You know, that really ought to be good.
		It's going to be on new diseases, new and awful diseases.
		What might be coming?
		There was a CDC press conference not long ago, and they said, for whatever reason that they believe it, that major new and terrible diseases are coming.
		Some people charge it is from the over-prescribing of antibiotics and other drugs that these little bugs are now beginning to learn to get around.
		And certain strains are beginning to come out now, pretty scary stuff that are resistant to any form of cure that we have.
		There was a recent thing in India about the plague and how resistant it was.
		There's all kinds of pretty awful things on the horizon.
		And we're going to talk about all of that tomorrow morning.
		And it sounds right down John's alley.
		So he's going to go into the military and hopes to work with biological agents.
		Oh, it's the American Dream.
		We'll be back.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		Thank you.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		Remember that toll-free line at this hour and for the next two hours is restricted for people east of the Rockies.
		Then it opens for everybody.
		That number is 1-800-618-8255.
		All right.
		We're talking about a number of things this morning.
		187 and whether or not you think it is constitutional.
		If you think it is constitutional, then don't be afraid of a court test.
unidentified		Let it be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is the federal government's job to enforce our borders and our immigration policies.
		Let me repeat that.
		Read my lips.
		It is the federal government's policy of responsibility to enforce our border and our immigration rules and regulations and laws.
		And if 187 is ruled to be constitutional, that, in effect, is going to say the federal government is not and must do its job.
		And that is preferable to Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, all of these other states that will be affected, having to pass their own laws, no doubt, with different application in each state.
		That's why we have a federal government to enforce policies that have to do with international borders and that kind of thing.
		So we don't have to have the various states or the several states doing it.
		And as I also said, in Texas, where it was ruled they must educate illegal aliens under the Equal Protection Clause, that was only because the people who were seeking to have them tossed out did not show harm.
		In California, there's all kinds of harm to be shown.
		I believe it is constitutional and will pass and should.
		And when I say pass, I mean the legal test, which it inevitably is going to get.
		On the subject of President Clinton, yesterday I was wondering whether he was going to be conciliatory or whether the president was going to continue to doggedly pursue his own agenda.
		Well, there are all kinds of surveys out this morning that show the American people indeed voted on Tuesday as a referendum on the Clinton administration.
		And President Clinton yesterday came out and showed his true colors.
		He defended in sort of a long, rambling Fidel Castro-style address, and only in the sense I'm not likening him to Fidel in any way, except the long, rambling kind of defense of his policies that Fidel does, that President Clinton did yesterday.
		Long, rambling.
		I don't think we, I think we were on the right track, he said.
		He doesn't see anything wrong with what he was doing.
		In other words, he didn't get the message.
		Didn't get the message.
		So we're talking about that a little bit.
		Some shakers down in San Diego.
		Just all kinds of things.
		Don't forget, Lindsey Williams will be here tomorrow morning.
		Is it Williams?
		Boy, I hope it is.
		Lindsey Williams, yes.
		He'll be talking about new diseases.
		We're going to fire that one up at 11 o'clock Pacific time.
		Should be fascinating.
		Here is a fax from Ralph in Tacoma.
		In President Clinton's speech, he stated he is going on with his agenda, and he's against undoing what has been passed already.
		By the way, it says Ralph, this is done on my new Sanyo Fax machine.
		I love it.
		And then this, to Art.
		For some time, I was very much afraid the Washington Liberals would be successful in shutting the nation's talk show hosts up.
		That time, hopefully, is now deferred.
		But we must exercise eternal vigilance lest it threaten to occur again.
		I agree with that.
		With the Republicans in place, talk radio is now safe.
		Thank goodness.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Oh, thank you for answering my call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can barely hear you, sir, so you're going to have to speak up for us.
unidentified		Good evening, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, good evening.
unidentified		Yes, I'd like to make a couple of comments.
		First of all, I really enjoy listening to all of the different callers and from all of the different parts of the United States.
		It's really a thrill to hear a fellow American.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		It's nice to be able to tap into a full national audience and get all the varied opinion that is out there.
		Where are you, by the way?
unidentified		I'm calling from Santa Barbara, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, QSB country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yes, Santa Barbecue, we call it.
unidentified		Anyway, I declare November 8th the new Mexican Independence Day here in Santa Barbara.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Well, so to speak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So to speak.
unidentified		Yes.
		Anyway, I'd like to make a comment here.
		I think the elections are really a big statement on responsibility and accountability with our government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, somebody called in just before the news with what I thought was a rather provocative question.
		They said, look, this is indeed a referendum on the president's job, and the grade is a failing grade on the first two years.
		While we don't have votes of confidence in this country, and the president is entitled to stay in office for two more years, the caller asked, should he be asked to resign?
unidentified		Well, I think that there's a whole lot of people that would agree there, and that's not a bad idea at all, except for the fact that what you're left with is probably worse than what you got now.
unidentified		If we ended up with Al Gore in office, it would be a big blunder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		It might be, because once again, the hope of a new agenda, a new way of doing things, would be held out to us, wouldn't it?
		In other words, if all of that occurred, Al Gore would come along and all of a sudden, why are we going to be doing this in a whole new way?
		and it would be just one more way of introducing the same old thing while you advertise it as the new way.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the TOLFI line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello there.
		No, you're not.
		On the wildcard line, you are on the air.
		Top of the morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art, KOH, Epino.
		Yes, sir.
		First of all, two points.
		One is, as far as the new diseases coming along, like the tuberculosis, which is a highly contagious disease.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Either sneezing or even talking to somebody.
		That's right.
		The people in the third world countries take prescription drugs without any merit and without any deliberation.
		They take it for almost anything, so they do breed the stronger strains of tuberculosis over there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
unidentified		The second point on GATT is that one important thing that nobody's pointed out, and I think it's a well-kept secret, after GATT goes through, all of the other third world countries will have the same voting power as we do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the one I've been bitching about now for weeks.
unidentified		But the plan, and I'm pretty sure I'm right on this, the plan would be that a multinational company with a few million dollars, $15 or $20 million, could bribe any number of public officials, one or two in each head of the country, And vote against us to further deplete our patent protection and our resources.
unidentified		And that could be done very easily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, I guess you could argue that the United States, along with the other industrialized nations, being the richest, would have much more bribery money.
		We could bribe people better.
		But, you know, the whole idea, I understand exactly what you're saying, and I do object basically to the tenant that any third world nation would be given the same vote that we have in matters of economic world trade.
		That's asinine.
unidentified		And the important thing is the loss of the patent protection would be drastically reduced.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I understand.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		It could conceivably occur indeed.
		And patents held by U.S. corporations could suddenly be legally taken by corporations elsewhere.
		I know that's absolutely true, and it's something to be concerned about.
		But again, this voting power is the thing that gets me.
		It is ceding our sovereignty, and I'm unwilling to do it.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Brian from Springfield, Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing there, Brian?
unidentified		Good.
unidentified		And I think one reason why Bill Clinton's worried is mainly because the Whitewater hearings that may come up in the next Congress.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, surely not because they may.
		They are going to.
		I assure you, Al Domato is going to begin issuing subpoenas, and they're going to begin doing to the Clinton administration what the Clinton administration, with Henry Waxman's help, was trying to do to the tobacco industry.
unidentified		And they said the tobacco hearings are going to stop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
unidentified		And you talk about a political sea change.
unidentified		Man, I've never seen a political sea change like this since.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that makes two of us, partner.
		I've never seen it.
		I cannot remember the time when we had the House and Senate.
		I was a little bitty baby.
unidentified		My dad was alive back then, but I wasn't.
unidentified		My dad was 57 right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you can say this is a good time to be alive, isn't it?
unidentified		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		The question is, what is Mr. Clinton going to do?
		And I think the answer is now apparent.
		He's not giving up his agenda.
		It's like he pouted for a day or was in shock for a day, and now he's right back talking that talk, the same talk, same ideas, no change.
		Should he, in your opinion, be asked to resign?
		Nobody can force that.
		But, of course, major newspapers can begin to write editorials.
		People can begin to suggest it.
		As I have, or as a caller did.
		And I'm now forwarding.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the first-time caller line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, there, Art.
		Yes.
		This is the Schmooze in Phoenix.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shmooze, huh?
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Well, I used to be with the blues band, and everybody gets a name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
unidentified		I'm doing okay.
unidentified		You're going to be on WJTN.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		WJTN in New York.
unidentified		Jamestown.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
unidentified		I've been trying for weeks to get through to you, and tonight I get through.
unidentified		I used to be their Pennsylvania sales rep. Oh, no kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good people there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're going to start there next week.
unidentified		I have a nominee for the most inept political consultant of the last campaign.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that would be.
unidentified		Well, I don't know the name, but I assume you being a neighbor here know what the politics are kind of like here in Arizona regarding gun control.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I believe Arizona passed a concealed deal except for the city.
unidentified		We have the concealed carry law here, and we're definitely a gun-toting state.
		A political consultant for the Karen English and Sam Coppersmith campaign brought in Sarah Brady.
		Can you imagine how that went over?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess in Arizona, like a lead balloon.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		Listen, great show.
		Enjoy it a lot, and good luck on JTM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you.
		It's Jamestown, New York.
		Yeah, that'll be fun.
		And that's right.
		I understand they've got quite a signal.
		And there's another New York affiliate coming.
		There's one in Liberal, Kansas coming.
		All of this next week, as we continue to expand.
		And we may soon be picking up a powerhouse, 50,000 water, in the middle of the country.
		And I can tell you we are picking up one in the north central part of the country, but I can't go any further into it right now.
		Secrets.
		They make me keep secrets.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		This is Dale from Alabama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Dale.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What part of Alabama?
unidentified		Auburn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Auburn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the show.
unidentified		Richard Shelby country.
		You bet.
		I was wondering if you think there's a chance that this ridiculous gun ban is going to be repealed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I think, yeah, I'll tell you what I think might happen.
		Or no, maybe I ought to tell you what I think I hope is going to happen.
		And that is the Republicans are saying they're going to forward a new piece of crime legislation, real crime legislation.
		And in that, they will take hard steps against criminals and at the same time repeal the stupid gun ban.
		So there is a hope that they will do that.
		Now, what Mr. Clinton will do when he gets that on his desk is another question.
unidentified		Yeah, I know the press is really going to demagogue this like crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course they are.
unidentified		You know, but these are semi-automatic rifles that have been legal for over 100 years.
unidentified		I mean, Teddy Roosevelt hunted with one in 1910.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear the survey I read in the first hour?
		It said it asked the American people who should be making policy right now, high-level policy in this country, Congress or the President?
		55% of the people responded, Congress.
		Only 30% of the people said the President.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, that's good news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So who, you know, if the President begins to veto these measures, who's going to be accused of gridlock?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		So, do you think there's a chance that they can override these vetoes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be a closer call, and my feeling would be many times not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Many times, they would not override.
unidentified		Well, he wants to use the Harry Truman approach in 1996, and I think it's going to be very difficult for him to do so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		I'm calling what he's doing now the Fidel Castro approach.
		Long, rambling, barely coherent, in my opinion, defenses of indefensible policies.
		That's what he did yesterday.
		It was a very, very poor answer to what all of you told the president on Tuesday.
		It just doesn't make sense.
		And I told you to be cautious when he came out and said he got the message.
		This is a president that can really talk that talk.
		But yesterday, after reflection, it was obvious he didn't get the message.
		So we circle now back to the question about whether you think he ought to be asked to resign.
		You can't force it.
		You can call for it in editorials.
		You can call for it on talk shows.
		You can discuss it, but you can't force it because we do not have in this country votes of confidence as they do in England.
		Maybe we ought to.
		On the first-time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Oh, this is Ralph in KEX country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ralph.
unidentified		Yeah.
		First of all, I just wanted to make a comment about should the president resign or not.
		Yes.
		First of all, I don't think so, because I don't really care for Al Gore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess that's going to be a lot of people are going to answer that way.
unidentified		Well, the only thing if he resigns, he should have to take Al Gore with him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now we are rewriting the Constitution.
unidentified		Yeah, you know, that'd be my only comment about that.
unidentified		Other than that, as far as, you know, you were talking about the Republicans writing the new crime bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I think the problem with the first crime bill was the fact it does nothing to really deter crime because it doesn't face the behavioral problem.
unidentified		So therefore, that's what they're really going to have to address if they wouldn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how would you write legislation that would address the behavioral problem?
unidentified		Well, first of all, you know, you'd have to write a 30, I think a $30 billion bill to create jobs in this country, to create a better, you know, to help educational systems in this country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, that sounds like what the Democrats were doing.
unidentified		You know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, instead of prisons and punishment and sentences that are carried out, instead of all that sort of thing, they wanted midnight basketball programs.
unidentified		Well, yeah, but the Democrats didn't get it done either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, excuse me, yes, they did, sir.
		It's in the crime bill now.
		Believe me, we've got midnight basketball and such.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		We are calling up from in Canada, Edmonton, Alberta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Edmonton, yes, sir.
unidentified		In the dead of winter, we still get KGA from Spokane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as a matter of fact, in the dead of winter, you're going to get it better and better and better.
unidentified		Atmospheric conditions, eh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, they improve.
		You know, the sun goes down earlier, comes up later.
		Yep.
		Atmospherics tend to get better with less static in the wintertime, so you'll hear it even better.
unidentified		That's great.
unidentified		Anyways, with Republican control of the Congress, is that going to be conducive to stricter border enforcement?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would certainly say that's a definite possibility, yes.
unidentified		Who do you think would be more in tune to this philosophical principle, Ross Perot or the Republicans?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ross Perot.
unidentified		The first one being this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ross Perot.
		We don't need to talk about it.
		Ross Perot, no question about it.
unidentified		Well, would he agree with this, that no one has the absolute right to reside in another country?
unidentified		They just simply must prove they deserve the privilege of living there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		That's great.
		Anyways, a couple of other things.
		Regarding the Pope's predictions for the year 2000, you're at about a year or two ago.
		Yes.
		Is the clock ticking?
		What was the date, 1996 or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think it was 1995.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That's sooner than I thought.
		I'd like to ask you about the openness of the media now compared to, say, the three previous decades.
		I remember two distinct guests you've had on, John Lear and Linda Thompson.
		I think they kind of disagree a bit in terms of the development of free flow of information to the public.
		Is the restatement of the Roswell incident by the Air Force evidence of a more open era?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends on how you look at the statement.
		Thank you.
		I've got to run.
		Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
		You could state it that way if you believe that what they said was true.
		But I mean, come on, look at what they said.
		They said, look, the old story about a balloon was a lie.
		We admit we lied.
		Here's the new story.
		It was a balloon.
		So I guess it depends on how you feel about the story.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		Now we take you back to the past on Art Bell somewhere in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This, ladies and gentlemen, is freedom of speech.
		It is the purest form.
		This is unscreened talk radio.
		We just take the next call coming up.
		May it be you.
		Here's a facts, Art.
		I am so happy that you are happy.
		There for a while, I thought you Republicans were all going to jump off a cliff from depression.
		I am happy, too, for the Republicans that they can run things their way or start trying.
		I doubt They'll get anywhere.
		And then the next paragraph: through the years, I have noticed that, get this, every Republican I know is thoughtless, selfish, self-centered, could care less about their fellow man, and almost kill themselves trying to get rich.
		But hey, what the heck, huh?
		I feel bad we lost control, but I also think we are about to get bigger problems.
		You guys just don't have enough heart.
		I hope to God you prove me wrong.
		If so, or if not, maybe a UFO will come and rescue you, Republicans, and take you somewhere that you belong and leave us kind-hearted people here, reed liberals, on earth.
		And we'll have a great old time taking care of each other.
		Ha ha.
unidentified		laughs
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's quite an indictment, isn't it?
		And this is.
		Who is this from?
		He doesn't sign it, I guess.
		Or Waldo.
		I don't know when the term lame duck was coined, but I do know that it is a bit archaic.
		Perhaps we need a new term for the new millennium.
		And who better to personify the term?
		I propose the new term for lame duck ought to be virtual Clinton.
		I don't know if that's the one, but I do agree, perhaps they...
		Does anybody know?
		Does it mean a duck that has gone lame?
		And why do we have that term?
		There's a lot of terms that we have that we use in the English language that would be really hard to explain to somebody trying to learn the language.
		In other words, what it means or why it means what it means.
		Probably be very confusing, cause them to say, I don't like English.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Rob Waikiki.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi, Rob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's Waikiki?
unidentified		Oh, we're doing okay, though.
unidentified		We didn't get the same turnover in politics as you did in the mainland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, not quite, but I guess you had some close elections, and at least you had the spirit of change.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, we had a huge amount of people went ahead and turned out to vote.
		That's what it's all about.
		I'll tell you one thing I'd just like to hope that America can get it together with the politicians.
		I was kind of saddened to see so many of the incumbent politicians returning.
		I wanted to see them all cleared out.
		I don't care if the Republican or Democratic care less.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a real purist, huh?
		Well, look, enough were cleared out, sir, so that there is absolutely no question about the message that went to Washington.
		It's not all of them, but the message was clear.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		I just want to see them get it together.
		And Newt Gingrich, you know, gee whiz, man, I kind of hope that we'd send a man into his position, but he's calling people names.
		I think he's got the wrong attitude for a position of power right now.
		He needs to focus in, get strength, and focus on his agenda and go for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I feel differently about it.
		At least as far as his temperament is concerned, I actually like that.
		I actually like a little bomb throwing, and God knows Washington needs a few bombs thrown at it.
		And so does this president.
		So I don't have a problem with it.
		I understand that as Speaker of the House, he's going to have to mellow out a little bit, but I'm sorry.
		I kind of like it.
unidentified		Well, yeah, no, I can understand.
		You guys, I know you're a Republican.
		You've got to be stoked.
		I would be, too.
		Actually, I don't like to take any sides on that.
		I just want a good American man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somehow, sir, I have more of the feeling that instead of seeing us stoked, you'd like to see us stuffed.
unidentified		Huh?
		No, no, I'm stoked.
		I'm happy for the Republicans, you know?
		But good going, good shot.
		Do your best.
		I'd just like to wish those guys the best luck, man.
		Please do some good for our nation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Scott.
		Thank you very much.
		Somehow I read all that a little differently.
unidentified		Hey, I'm really stoked for you, Republicans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think stuffed was closer to the word he was wishing he could reach for.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		How are you doing, Art?
unidentified		This is Raymond in San Antonio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Raymond.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's San Antonio this morning?
unidentified		So how are you doing this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there an echo here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
unidentified		Well, we're happy we got ourselves a new governor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you sure do, and he looks just like the ex-president.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Man, oh, man, does he look like George Bush?
unidentified		Well, our outgoing governor was very gracious, and she says that she's getting out of politics, but I got a feeling she's going to be back in 96.
unidentified		I really do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, probably.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She looks like one of those people who thrives, you know, as a real political animal.
unidentified		Well, the reason I call it is that I wanted to let all the gun owners out there, particularly out there in California, know that the Senate race out there between Diane Feinstein and Huffington is not over yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		It's not over yet.
		There's about 600,000 mailing ballots still to be counted.
unidentified		And they're not going to be counted until Monday.
unidentified		So it still can go either way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And wouldn't that be a surprise?
unidentified		I mean, if Diane Frankenstein gets...
		Oh, God, I would, too.
		Before I let you go is that I also heard something about, I know it's beating a dead horse, but it's about the Susan Smith case.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And I heard this on another talk show on the Ken Hamlin show.
		Yes.
		And they had said, Mr. Hamlin had said that when the divers had pulled the car out and they had opened the door and they saw the two kids, and this is what really got me upset.
		They were holding hands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
unidentified		And I'll be perfectly honest with you.
		If they give her the chair, it's just desserts.
		But if they give her life, I want to make sure that it's without parole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call.
		Again, I read the Time article on Susan Smith yesterday.
		And whoever wrote the article, I can't recall who it was, began it by saying, I can only hope that when those children hit the water, they have been asleep.
		That they did not feel that car going down the gravel road approaching the lake, seeing their mother jump out and feel themselves hit the water.
		We know they were alive when they hit the water.
		We don't know whether they were awake.
		And that was kind of an editorial comment, but universally felt, I'm sure.
		I hope that's true, too.
		It's such an awful case.
		I actually can't think about it.
		It depresses me too much to think about this Smith thing.
		Nothing.
		Well, I'll tell you, in about nine years of doing this program, nothing ever hit me that hard.
		And it comes right back when I begin thinking about it.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Let's see.
		Where did it begin?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At the beginning.
unidentified		Well, you can never begin at the beginning because the last thing that happened is always the most immediate thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's begin with Adam and Eve and get to President Clinton as quickly as we can.
unidentified		Can I do that in three minutes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Probably not, especially since there might not be any relation.
unidentified		Anyhow, never mind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this Newt Gingrich?
unidentified		No, I'm just another mind-numbed rope.
unidentified		Anyhow, would you agree with the premise that the United States were not 50 originally, but are now 50 separate social laboratories?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Under Bill Clinton, we were one.
unidentified		Well, yeah, that's my problem.
		Something like a social system, like a government, is a hugely complicated thing.
		And no human being, no matter how smart he is, can push over that first domino and predict what's going to knock into the next thing, to knock into the next thing, to finally what the outcome is going to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
unidentified		And when you do something big and high-handed, like let's nationalize all the health care, or let's take away all the guns, if you've taken out a vital organ, you at least want to just do it to California, for instance, rather than do it to the whole United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, I understand exactly what you're saying.
		And that, sir, goes right to the core of what I think the American people have rejected about Bill Clinton.
		In other words, things are kind of rolling along all right.
		We don't want to do something that will overturn the apple cart.
		And Bill Clinton keeps looking like that's what he wants to do.
		And the American people, frankly, are not going for it.
unidentified		Yeah, so what I want to say is welcome back, gridlock.
		I want to see what it is.
		In response to that guy's fact earlier, I want to see a nicely paralyzed government that can't get it together to do anything more than what is obviously and compellingly inarguably necessary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well said, sir, thank you.
		I agree with that if it must be.
		Gridlock is not something you really want because it essentially means there is not much movement one way or the other for a couple of years.
		But that is certainly preferable to movement in the wrong direction.
		So as soon as we are able to discern what President Clinton really wants and really is going to do, whether he's going to extend the hand of bipartisan cooperation or whether he is going to continue along with his own agenda, and I'm afraid it looks like that's what he's going to do.
		And if it is, then that makes gridlock look good.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Art.
		You know about impeaching Clinton?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about it?
unidentified		Well, a guy called up and said if we impeach Clinton, Al Gore should go with him.
		Do you know if both of them are impeached?
		Who is next?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said if we ask the president to resign and he resigns, that Al Gore ought to have to go with him.
		Now, Here's the way it works.
		If the president goes and the vice president goes, it'll be the speaker of the house would be president.
		So Newt Gingrich would be president of the United States, but that would take the president and Al Gore leaving, and that is not going to happen.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Well, I suppose I can dream.
		Yeah, and I'm really happy that I was able to take the pictures of Tom Fully and Jim Sasser off my dartboard.
		And I'm looking forward to the day where I can take Clinton off as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Thank you.
		You know, I have been surprised at the revival of Tony Coelho.
		He has been revived as a Democrat strategist, although I must say he was one of those responsible for strategy prior to this election, going into this election.
		I saw him interviewed in a number of places, and maybe Mr. Coelho's revival is going to be brief indeed, because if it was his strategy, well, I really need not say anymore.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yes, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You know, I call him, this is a guy from Lake County.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lake County.
unidentified		Yeah, while I'm listening to you on KOH and Reno.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mighty KOH, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, I get it from there, and I can't get anything locally here.
		Once in a while, I get it from a station close, but it fades in and out.
		Okay.
		Anyhow, I just want to say that, you know, I've been voting since 1948, and the other night I think I was the second happiest day of my life when all this took about on the voting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was a revolution, sir, without a shot being fired.
unidentified		It was, and it just made me so happy.
unidentified		I think I stayed up the rest of the night watching.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		And I just wanted to tell you that I think maybe, well, I know that you're one of the biggest reasons that this has happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's very kind.
unidentified		And I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you called.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, sir.
		Bye-bye.
		And I hope we did have something to do with it.
		And I hope talk radio did in general.
		Actually, I know it did.
		Talk radio did play a part in this.
		There is no question about it.
		I said it yesterday.
		I'm going to say it again.
		A perfect example is Washington State and the change that has been brought to Washington State through talk radio, through KVI radio in Seattle, KGA radio in Spokane, all of our other affiliates dotted throughout Washington.
		Talk radio in this election made a big difference without question.
		And I think if they still had the power, they would be trying to find right now a way to shut us up, and the fairness doctrine would again be back on the table.
		Fortunately, they no longer control the table.
unidentified		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art Bell Somewhere in Time To our toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Chris from San Marquis, Texas.
unidentified		San Marquis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I tell you, Chris, we're getting more and more and more calls from WOAI in San Antonio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I'm beginning to think a lot of people are catching on.
unidentified		Yeah, we sure are.
		I had to pause for a minute about that man's comment from San Antonio about the Smith case, but that was kind of upsetting.
		But the reason why I called was to say why ask Clinton to step down when we can watch him destroy his political career.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because it may be that America's immediate future is more important than Bill Clinton's political career.
unidentified		Yeah, I understand that.
		And one last question before I let you go, and that is, what do you think about Kay Bailey Hutchison?
		Do you congratulated us on our new governor?
		Yeah, there you go.
		On our new governor.
		But what do you think about Kay Bailey Hutchison?
		Do you think that that's nothing more than a Democrat and Republicans clothes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess one comment might be we'll take them as we can get them.
		Well, remember one thing.
		When you call this program, sir, never be afraid to say what you really think.
		Thanks for the call.
		We'll see you later.
		Yes, sometimes when you ask, you shall receive.
		On the first time caller line, you're on the air.
		Whoops, would have been.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		This is John.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, John.
unidentified		San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		San Diego, yes.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Land of the Sonic Superkiller.
unidentified		Yeah, it was kind of a roaring sound.
		Really unusual.
		Roaring.
		Yeah, it sounded like a roar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of people said they felt it without hearing it.
unidentified		Yeah, we felt it here, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying you heard it.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		It was a roar.
unidentified		And I was waiting for a sonic boom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it was somebody from the Clinton administration expressing their emotions about the election.
unidentified		Oh, another news here.
unidentified		I talked to Linda Howe this weekend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you did?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		For 10 hours on the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		10 hours?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who is this, Mr. Vaspoz?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Oh.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just fine.
		Well, she gave us, you may have heard, did you hear Dream Learning?
		I did.
		Oh, okay.
		Well, then you heard your report.
unidentified		Yes, I did.
unidentified		I sent her copies and documents also to her, and I hope she's sent you some of these documents to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure she will.
unidentified		And that's not all.
unidentified		I recently contacted one of the persons that was with me in Delta Company.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and?
unidentified		And I spoke to him for about an hour.
unidentified		Yes, and, well, I mentioned about what happened there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, and what did he remember?
unidentified		Well, he remembered the staff in a CO and colonel.
		However, the formation, the mandatory formation, He had no knowledge of that.
		It seems to me he had repressed memories.
		Yeah.
		And I told him what date, what time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess, listen, I've got to run, but there are going to be a lot of other people that they're going to be able to contact.
		And I think your story ultimately is verifiable.
		If it is so, it should be absolutely verifiable.
		It may take a little research.
		They may have to regress a few people and free a few memories.
		But if it occurred, I would think that it would certainly be verifiable.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Scott from Missoula, Montana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Missoula, Montana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Well, you wanted to know what the lame duck came from.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, where does it come from?
unidentified		In 1933, they passed the 20th Amendment, and it was called the Lame Duck Amendment.
unidentified		And what it did was get rid of or made it so that the President was no longer in office after the 20th of January.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
		But what I mean is, where does the expression actually derive from?
		Why lame duck?
unidentified		Why lame duck?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		That I wouldn't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, does it actually refer to a duck limping along?
unidentified		Possibly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, ducks, after all, spend a lot of time in the water.
		You know, so being a little gimpy on one.
		I don't know.
		I'm just curious about the expression itself, and obviously there's going to be no answer.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call, and good morning.
		On the wild card line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Well, good morning, Art.
		Hello.
		I just wanted to talk a little bit about what's been going on here in Spokane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fireworks, I would say, eh?
unidentified		Just about.
		We're really pleased, of course.
		And you know, there's so many things that have been going on here in Spokane that are responsible for what's happened here.
		And we're really thankful for all of the help that we've gotten.
		A local group sprouted up called Defoliate Congress.
		That's right.
		Without them, none of this would be possible here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the word was spread basically through talk radio at other grassroots levels as well.
		But talk radio, I'll tell you what, really, no wonder they were thinking about coming after us.
		It really has begun to have an effect.
unidentified		Yes, and the NRA was helpful.
		There were many other groups, the Christian Coalition, the Citizens Taxpayers Alliance, and of course, as you say, Talk Radio.
		One of our local hosts here, Todd Herman, who you've had on your show, actually on his program, a group sprouted up, and every single weekend from that time on until the election, had a rally at the North Town Mall.
		10.30 every morning, every Saturday morning, they'd be out there with their signs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this proves it worked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to run.
unidentified		Well, we want to have a thank you rally this coming season.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		On that note, I've got to go.
		We'll be back.
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		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody, and welcome in those of you who just join us at this hour.
		It's been a good couple of first hours.
		Great, actually.
		We're discussing a great variety of things.
		And I'll just give you a tiny brief recap.
		Proposition 187.
		Oh, Proposition 187.
		People having rallies, getting arrested.
		It's in the courts.
		There's violence over it.
		I will simply kind of sum it up by saying, in my opinion, 187 is constitutional, will pass constitutional muster.
		And instead of the states having to individually do this, all the surrounding states of California, which are now getting ready to do it, it is not the several states' job.
		It is the job of the federal government.
		187 should be tested in the courts.
		It will pass, in my opinion, and force the federal government to do what they ought to be doing.
		The border areas, immigration control, regulation, and law is the job of the federal government to do.
		And by God, they had better get to it.
		And that is the message of 187.
		And hopefully, that will be what it will accomplish.
		We're talking about the president because of a number of things.
		A big NBC survey out showing, in fact, what occurred on Tuesday was a referendum on the Clinton administration.
		Squarely was.
		I mean, a survey after it.
		The people said yes, absolutely, yes, it was.
		A great majority of them say that.
		As a matter of fact, 56% of the people say the reason they elected Republicans to Congress is the pledge that Republicans took to cut taxes, cut welfare payments.
		55% of the people think Congress ought to make policy.
		Only 30% of the people want President Clinton to make policy.
		It is a terrible, terrible survey for the president.
		As for the president, he's now off out of the country, about to take off out of the country to Asia following the election, which according to NBC brought him, quote, such despair, end quote.
		As a matter of fact, in the latest poll, Bill Clinton would lose to Bob Dole if the election were held today, 45% to 39%.
		Andrew Kohat of the Times Mirror Center said, quote, this means the public didn't like his performance in the first two years.
		It means they feel Washington needs a very big shake-up, end quote.
		But the president spent yesterday, after originally saying, Well, I've got the message, I can see what it is that people want.
		Yesterday, in a Fidel Castro-like, long, rambling defense of his agenda, he virtually said, wrong.
		He said, quote, I do believe we're moving in the right direction.
		And after saying he got the message, he proceeded to say he's going to continue with his agenda.
		And so then obviously he doesn't get it.
		Somebody called me up about an hour and 15 minutes ago and said, well, then maybe he ought to be asked to resign.
		Well, we don't, of course, have votes of confidence or no confidence in this country, but maybe he ought to be asked to resign.
		Then the subject of lame duck came up.
		And I simply asked, where did the expression lame duck come from?
		And I think somebody who just hunted me a fact may have figured it out.
		Art, lame duck.
		A lame duck with only one good foot would swim round and round in circles, getting nowhere fast.
		But haven't our lame duck congress and lame duck president been doing just that for the last two years, celebrate the mandate?
		That's from Cogoland.
		Volunteer work.
		One-third of all the high schools in America have mandatory volunteer work.
		And there are now students suing, trying to say they're not going to do it.
		17-year-old Daniel may not graduate because he is refusing to do it.
		His attorney says, look, this mandated volunteerism violates the 13th Amendment, a ban on slavery.
		The school defends required volunteerism, which is a stupid term, by saying, quote, we are teaching citizenship in an activist way.
		And I agree, it is a great program, but you really can't have something called, can you, required volunteerism?
		You can't really call it anything else because it is community service.
		And you're not being paid for it.
		So it is mandatory volunteerism.
		Are you for it or again it?
		So we'll talk about that a little bit.
		Just all kinds of things on the table.
		Tomorrow morning, we're going to have a very, very interesting guest tomorrow evening, actually, who will talk about the new diseases.
		And I'm really looking forward to that program.
		That will begin at 11 o'clock Pacific time.
		So find a way to hear the first hour of the program if you can tomorrow night.
	So as a result, we're kind of treating this as a Friday night, Saturday morning.
	Anyway, a lot of you were off, I know, later today.
	And so in a lot of ways, more than one, it is like a Friday night, Saturday morning.
	On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, I wanted to give you, this is the godmother from Kansas City, Missouri, KCMO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, howdy.
unidentified		I wanted to give you the description of a lame duck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, was that Faxer about right?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Well, it could be, but this is from the American Heritage Dictionary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		It's an elected official that has failed to win an election before the next person takes over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, I know that.
		I was wondering the original meaning of lame duck.
		I mean, surely it comes from something that associates itself with a duck.
		I understand its present contemporary political meaning.
unidentified		I understand.
unidentified		And I wanted to ask you if your face was sore from grinning and laughing, Wednesday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My face is sore from four shots into my gum yesterday.
unidentified		Uh-oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		Oh, I can tell you, the root canal was bad enough, but it is not what's hurting right now.
		What's hurting are the four impact areas.
unidentified		I also wanted to, I couldn't get in to give you a headline, but I had a description for Clinton after the election.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Cat on a hot tin roof.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cat on a hill.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
		Cat on a hot tin roof.
		I'm sorry that it's going to go this way.
		If it is, and if it's not going to be cooperation, conciliation, then it's going to have to be gridlock, and it's not going to be a pretty thing.
		The Congress is not going to do anything the president wants to do, and the president is not going to do anything Congress wants to do.
		He's going to veto bills sent to him that don't fit into his agenda, and he's probably going to have a hard time trying to get his agenda even written into legislation.
		So then it'll be gridlock, and it is too bad it must be that way.
		But if that's the way it must be, that certainly beats proceeding with the Clinton agenda that he apparently refuses to give in on.
		Toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Arc.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		I'm calling from Queen Creek, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, this line is held for people east of the Rockies, sir, for about another 45 minutes.
unidentified		Well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you very much.
		And so you can call in at that time on this line or use one of the other numbers.
		We do that so the people back east who have a much harder time dialing through can make it through.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		Calling from Mississippi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I just wanted to say that I've voted in the last several presidential elections, and I voted for Clinton two years ago because I thought he was a moderate.
unidentified		I thought he was going to kind of walk down the middle of the road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I was kind of pushed in the wrong direction by Bush and Pat Buchanan and some of those people who didn't seem to have the best interests of the country or myself at heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that, of course, is perceptual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you disagreed with him.
unidentified		Right.
		I disagreed with their stand on some issues.
		Clinton disappointed me.
		He let me down.
		First thing, right out of the sheet, he tackled the gaze in the military issue, which I thought was an issue that he never should have tackled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was a big mistake.
		Big, big mistake.
		He wasted a Lot of political capital on that that he could have used for his real agenda.
unidentified		Yeah, he squandered everything, all the goodwill that the people who thought he was going to be a moderate president had in store for him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		So I was glad to see the Republicans come back into power a few days ago.
unidentified		But my biggest fear now is that they will start to push these right-wing issues at me again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they are going to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, earlier today, I heard them suggest Newt Gingrich will again bring up the prayer in school issue.
unidentified		And I think if that happens and if they make abortion, outlawing abortion a priority and things of that sort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not going to do that.
		I can tell you what they're going to do.
		They are going to attempt to reinstitute the gag rule on abortion discussion in clinics.
		That's about as far as I believe they're going to go.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, I just think, you know, if they can balance the budget and they put through the balanced budget amendment and they put through term limits and things of that sort, that they will continue to maintain a majority for quite some time.
		But if they start leaning back towards right-wing extremism, then I think that probably in two years, I certainly will have to lean towards the left again just to try to moderate things or bring things towards the center.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		I appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
		And that is, of course, a danger.
		I do agree that if the pendulum swings too hard, there will be, as there was when the Democrats went too far left, a revolt.
		So if the Republicans are smart, and they are, they will seek a middle-of-the-road agenda.
		They will come out with real welfare reform.
		That means work.
		They will come out with a balanced budget amendment.
		I don't consider that extremism.
		This last caller might have.
		And they will perhaps restore our gun rights while coming up with real crime legislation.
		There are a lot of things the Republicans could do that are in the middle that the American people would just love.
		And oh, yes, what about a middle class, even an upper class, tax cut?
		Yes, how about that?
		I would imagine that also would be very popular.
		And without going crazy, at least keep our U.S. military viable.
unidentified		crash
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Mark Hall from LaCross, Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the program.
unidentified		Yeah, I've got a question to ask you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Say if the Lameduck Congress decides that they want to pass that right away, like you were saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		When the new Congress comes in, can they change that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess they could, but I don't think they would.
		And so I think the only way that we can approach this is to flood Bob Dole and others in Congress with a request that they not do it in the lame dock session, that they stop that and absolutely wait until the new Congress gets in and everybody has a chance to read it and understand it and then vote on it.
		We've got to stop the vote coming up this stupid one-day session.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
		And I think that, you know, honestly, that's what they're going to do.
		And I can't imagine, it's like I said, Ralph Nader said it's a naphth on steroids.
		I was reading that McElvaney report.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, Nader's right in this case.
unidentified		Yeah, and I can't imagine our sovereignty being decided by third world nations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, and people who were just widely rejected by the American people as well.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, no, I don't want them deciding about this, and we're going to get it stopped.
unidentified		Remember, I called yesterday about Proposition 187?
		Yes.
		I figured that they would throw it in the court system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		You know, now it'll probably be months, probably even years, they said.
		Yeah.
		Before they decided, so it really made no difference.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was predictable.
		It wasn't going to make a real difference.
		It's the message that counts, and it is going to go to the courts, and I think ultimately it's going to be declared constitutional and thrown right back into the face of the federal government, which, sir, is where it belongs.
unidentified		And I agree with you 100%.
		I wish it would be that way.
		I wish, you know, I mean, there's a lot of people in this country who are fed up paying taxes.
		It's high taxes.
		I mean, I try to buy a home, and I can't afford to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people are now having trouble buying homes, sir.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		It's true.
		A lot of people are really starting to have trouble with that.
		The rates are going up.
		They're getting tighter about the loans, and that is going to continue.
		It's going to continue for a while to get tougher to buy a home, I do believe.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is Mark.
		I'm from Seattle, KBI Country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mark.
unidentified		Hey, what a change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		We had one Republican and eight Democrats, and now we've got seven Republicans and two Democrats.
unidentified		The biggest thing of any state in the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's what I've been continually saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a revolution in Washington.
unidentified		It is.
		You know, years ago, there were 48 states, they used to call it the 47 states in the Soviet of Washington.
		You remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, it's not that way anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, Washington has changed.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Listen, I wanted to make a comment, though, about your suggestion that the president resign.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't mine.
		It was a caller's.
		And the suggestion was that he be asked to do so if he does not begin to modify his agenda after receiving this message, that perhaps editorially and so forth, people will begin to ask him to resign.
unidentified		Yeah, but we need to be careful here.
		We need to really protect this president for the next 60 days, and we don't want him resigning.
		First of all, Al Gore would become president.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the best point.
unidentified		And secondly, until January 3rd, I think it is, Tom Foley is next in line for the presidency.
unidentified		He is the Speaker of the House until January.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So we need to protect Clinton and Gore.
unidentified		Would we want Tom Foley to secede to the presidency?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		So we don't want anybody resigning until January, anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think it's a practical result.
unidentified		Yeah, I know, but I just wanted to make that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you.
		You made it.
		Yeah, we don't want Tom Foley as temporary president, do we?
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Artist.
unidentified		Bill in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bill.
unidentified		Where we returned Representative Jim McDermott to Congress with better than a 4-1 margin, almost a 4-1 margin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
unidentified		So at least we know that there will be some good people in there working for America as opposed to this horrid, horrid thing that seems to be out there where people are concerned mainly about themselves and to heck with anybody that doesn't have what they have.
unidentified		And let's see, also, I want to say probably the biggest favor, now I say this in all seriousness, tongue not anywhere, the biggest favor that the Republican Party could do President Clinton right now would be to push the agenda of the far, far right in Congress.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, and I absolutely don't want that done.
		There are lots of things in the middle that we can push, like a capital gains tax cut, reduction rather, and a middle-class tax cut, and maybe the line item veto.
		And gee, I could think of a number of things that are considered in the center that we could do that he would probably want to veto that would be bad news for him to veto.
unidentified		Well, sure.
unidentified		Let me tell you, though, I don't think he would veto a capital gains tax cut.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good.
unidentified		I don't think that he would.
unidentified		I know, in fact, that he would not veto a line-item veto if that came out of the Congress.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good.
unidentified		But do you think a Republican Congress would be willing to give a Democratic president a line-item veto?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why, yes.
		I mean, what do we look like?
		Democrats?
unidentified		don't know.
unidentified		I mean, there are certainly several ideological differences between the two parties.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there sure are, and I think that the ideological purity of the Republicans makes the Democrats look silly.
		I mean, they just thrive on hypocrisy.
		And so I think that the Republicans have an opportunity to demonstrate they really mean what they say, unlike the Democrats.
unidentified		Really?
unidentified		Well, it'll be interesting then to see how far they push term limits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said the same thing not an hour ago.
unidentified		And oh, and something else, too.
		I really do hope, and all this partisan bickering is kind of fun, actually, but I really do hope, and in all sincerity, that they can get together and work things out, because that's what's best for the country.
		It's not a question of us versus you, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
		I think that the Republicans are hurting the country if they bring up Whitewater, if they try to crucify the people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, wait a minute.
		Well, yes.
		I mean, if there is nothing to Whitewater and it's just a political crucifixion, you're absolutely correct.
		But what if there is something to it?
		I mean, we certainly don't know from the sham of an investigation they had into Whitewater here recently.
unidentified		Well, if they can come up with a way that it has affected his presidency and affected the way that he's governed the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no.
		Wait a minute now.
		If he broke the law.
		He broke the law.
unidentified		Okay, but he did not subvert the Constitution.
		He did not have an abuse of power while in office.
		And if it can be shown that he did either one of those two things, and I'm in agreement with you, I don't think that they'll be able to.
		I think, though, that what they need to do is quit this partisan bickering, quit the stuff that Newt Gingrich is saying, that they're counterculture McGovernx, which I don't think Bob Dole could have been too happy with him saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One thing to remember, sir?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If Vince Foster had had a gun, he might be alive today.
unidentified		He did have a gun, sir, and that's why he's dead.
		He put it to his own head.
		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe we'll find out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be mean and cruel to pick up a line right now because we're coming up on a break here at the bottom of the hour.
		So we are discussing a lot of very serious stuff this morning.
		Prop 187, where it's going, what it means.
		We're discussing the president, where he thinks he's going.
		And I say thinks he's going, what he wants to do, whether he is going to cooperate and conciliate, or whether he's going to himself be a sponsor of Gridlock for the next two lame, very lame duck years.
		And of course, the incredible occurrence on Tuesday, the Bloodless Revolution.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10, 1994.
		Coast AM from November
		10, 1994.
		Coast AM from November 10, 1994.
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		Art Bell, Somewhere In Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and it's good to be here this morning.
		After my bout with the dentist yesterday, nice as she is, man, she had to take...
		She gave me one, and we tried it.
		She brought the drill on.
		I said, uh-uh.
		Give me another one.
		We tried it.
		We brought the drill.
		I said, oh, no.
		A third shot, yeah.
		Still nothing.
		And finally, a fourth shot.
		Got it.
		But do you know what it's like getting four shots in the dome?
		You don't want to know if you don't.
		Anyway, I am here.
		Figured might as well suffer on, the air is off.
		Suffering is suffering.
		So here I am.
		And it's good to be here.
		And to the telephone lines once again on the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		This is the Representative Republic from Leavenworth, Kansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And it is the best talk show of all time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, that's kind of you.
unidentified		This has got to be the best.
		I appreciate being able to talk with Mr. Bell.
		But, Mr. Bell, I made a prediction.
		Do you remember the prediction that I made?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not exactly.
unidentified		Well, I said before the election that we would win 44 seats in the House, and I said we'd take seven or better, seven or better in the Senate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we won more seats than that in the House, of course.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		We did so good that, like I told Doc, I'm telling Doc Democrat, read it and weep.
		But we took over.
		We did it.
		And I'll tell you what, I think the American people finally got awake.
		And the reason why they woke up is because of Mr. Clinton.
		I have him to thank for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It really is true.
unidentified		It is an absolute house of God truth.
unidentified		But we had to have a president like this in order to get the people out there awake and saying, hey, enough is enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it worked.
unidentified		It absolutely worked.
		I am so elated.
		It's unbelievable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The question is, where we go from here?
		You see, it may of necessity mean gridlock.
		The president looks as though he's going to proceed with his agenda, even though he said, I understand the message that's been sent to me.
		He obviously doesn't.
unidentified		I tried to get through Tuesday night.
		I know that Doc got through, and I was amazed at the way he presented himself, but he had to humble himself.
		Because, after all, it's about time the pendulum swung the other way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did not hear any humble pie eating there at all.
unidentified		Well, you know what I'm saying.
		You've got to understand one thing.
		One thing for sure.
		The Republicans are going to do a number.
		And what I'm looking forward to is the Watergate hearings.
		And I know that Diamodel is going to do something About that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, the Watergate hearings occurred back in the Nixon administration.
unidentified		Well, not Watergate.
unidentified		I'm talking about White Watergate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there you go.
unidentified		There you go.
		Well, it's just that I'm so excited that it's just unbelievable.
		I cannot believe that we just won as big as we did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we did.
		Thank you.
		Contain yourself, though.
		What we have won does entail a big responsibility.
		In other words, we've got to come through.
		And that may be difficult to do if we get an obstinate, veto-wielding president.
		If that's what we have in our hands, it's going to be very difficult to come through.
		And he can endeavor to do to Congress what essentially was just done to him.
		I don't think it's going to work, but I think he may try, and that is to stop things by vetoing them, giving the appearance of gridlock, and then blaming Congress.
		May be hard for him to do, but I believe he may try.
		If his intent is to proceed with his agenda, he's going to try.
		And don't underestimate this man.
		Though down, he may not be out, even though it looks like he's out, even though it looks like he's a duck swimming in circles.
		He's come back from the dead before.
		He has a propensity for doing that.
		And so I'm not taking anything for granted, nor should you.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		From Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Arkansas, okay.
unidentified		I heard Mr. Clinton say that he's going to do everything in his power to continue on like he's been going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
unidentified		Now, I wonder if you heard this.
		I heard Rush Limbaugh talking about this the other day.
		On your $20 bills, 19 and 91 sequence, there is down in the lower right-hand corner a little international code.
		It's between the layers.
		And he said that they took one apart and found that if you go on a plane with money and you've got one of those bills in your pocket, they can run you through the scanner and find out exactly how much money you're taking out of the country.
		Had you heard that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but I have heard there's a new currency about to dawn, and I wouldn't be surprised that they might have that ability with this new currency.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We don't know what the makeup of it is yet.
unidentified		Well, that's the currency that we now have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't.
unidentified		Well, if you've got one, just look at it and see.
unidentified		It's a little international code down in the lower right-hand corner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll save up and take a look.
		Sorry, I have not heard that.
		From Arkansas.
		I got a pretty neat letter from Arkansas yesterday, and I meant to bring that out here.
		I think I've got it in the other room.
		I'll go and fetch it here in the next break.
		But it is a pretty neat letter from somebody in Arkansas who just was absolutely amazed that nobody ever bothered to ask him or anybody else, seemingly in Arkansas, about Bill Clinton before we took him on nationally.
		You're on the air coast to coast AM with Art.
		Bell, where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Hi, this is Richard from Portland.
unidentified		Hello, Richard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		The lady was talking about from Arkansas was talking about that we're able to capture money when you go through the airports.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, uh-huh.
unidentified		Okay, and there's a report called the Lifey Report.
		It comes out once a month.
		He's been on this theme for quite a while.
		Anyway, the new bills are all coated with magnetic ink like the checks are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Have you seen the new bills?
		I've never been able to talk to anybody who's seen them.
unidentified		No, he mentions them in his report that he's seen them.
		He's gone to the Federal Reserve Bank and got some copies, and they've run them through the reading machines like they do for bank checks or magnetic readers.
		Yes, uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we are having a very large problem with forgery of $100 bills.
		This is a story they've been keeping kind of under wraps.
		It's leaked out a couple of times.
		But in the Bacaw Valley of Lebanon, southern Lebanon, they are, and perhaps in Iran as well, it's thought, knocking out high-quality forgeries of $100 bills.
		So we're going to have to do something.
unidentified		Yeah, that's what he mentioned, too.
		But then he and Ron Powell, Ron Powell is another former congressman from Texas, puts out a report, too.
		And he's been on that team for a long time.
		When he was in Congress, he was on the committee that had to do with the banking committee about money, and there were plans for new money back then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		The new money is going to be in two forms, the way I understand it.
		One bill that you would use inside the country, and another bill that you would use outside the country.
		And when you travel outside the country, you would be required to exchange your money.
		And there may be red money and blue money.
		The blue money would be used outside, the red money inside.
		I don't know if all of that is true.
		I just know that that's what they're talking about.
		And I've got it on pretty good word that that's what it's going to be.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		Dennis from Raleigh, W-E-E-B.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Raleigh, North Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dennis.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Even though the president may wield his veto pen, I think there are probably enough frightened Democratic congressmen who saw the massacre that occurred the other night, they're going to think twice before they hit the campaign trail again and sing, and vote for me because I oppose these stupid Republicans.
		I mean, in some districts, it'll still sell.
		Some of the urban districts and so forth about, well, they're cutting away all our good federal programs and so on and so forth.
		But I think this past election put a real scare and a lot of Democratic congressmen.
		The Senate has a majority.
		The Republicans have majorities in both houses.
		And I think if it takes an override, I suspect the Republicans may have the frightened votes and the Democratic side to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it could be, but, you know, traditionally, vetoes are very hard to override.
		And he could make it very difficult.
		Now, the one thing we do have, of course, are the committee ships.
		We have the head, we're going to head these committees.
		For example, your Jesse Helms there is going to head foreign relations and foreign relations.
		And I very much doubt that Jesse would be in the category of a person friendly to the UN, the One World Order, that sort of thing.
unidentified		Right, right.
		Right.
		I think what may see happening is sort of like a two-front war.
		You'll have the frontal assault with the contract with America, but you'll also have the aerial attack of the various committees dragging Helms' Foreign Relations Committee and D'Amato's Banking Committee.
		And the president, I mean, he's going to be isolated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		is going to be a very difficult two years.
unidentified		It's going to be real tough for Clinton, and he's really going to be so busy trying to...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What if one of those committees finds something that will finally cause him to resign ahead of impeachment or something like that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then we've got Al Gore.
unidentified		Temporarily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, temporarily.
		You never know.
		Look, Al Gore can come at it in a whole new way.
		He can try and sell the same old stuff in a whole new way and could temporarily capture the American people long enough to get elected.
unidentified		Perhaps.
		Perhaps.
		But I think if the Republican contract with America, if it succeeds, at least a good part of it, people will see the Republicans really mean what they say.
		They promised this, and they're delivering, or at least if they can show that the Republicans voted consistently in favor of these things, and it was the Democrats, the deadlocked Democrats who were pulling back on term limits and pulling back on a balance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they don't want a balance.
unidentified		Maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The answer is maybe.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		The answer is a big maybe, and I'll tell you why.
		Because everybody thought it would be that way for the Republican.
		In other words, the Republicans were able to do that to the president, let's face it, over the last couple of years.
		They have stonewalled a bunch of his programs.
		The president has constantly charged it's been gridlocked for the sake of gridlock.
		Now, that argument aside for a second, it did work.
		What the Republicans did did work.
		And the American people have ended up, rightfully or wrongfully, blaming it on the president, right?
		So he may be able to do the same thing.
		Stop, gridlock, veto, whatever it is, whatever the Republicans might bring up and successfully say, well, look now, they haven't done a damn thing.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
		Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, this is Steve.
		I'm in San Antonio.
		Listen to WOAI.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Steve, how you doing?
unidentified		Doing fine.
unidentified		Look, I got an idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
		Now, I don't know.
		I don't know how people are going to feel like that.
		Maybe somebody can get an idea.
		We can get rid of this entire administration on January 4th, and we can have Newt Gingrich as President of the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do we do?
		You know, you know what that guy was doing?
		I'm going to tell you what he was doing so that you know.
		I blew him off the air.
		He was talking about assassination.
		You're a fool, sir.
		You're a damn fool.
		I don't know what's the matter with you, but that's no way to get rid of a president.
		And then he was talking about the vice president as well.
		You, sir, are a damn fool.
		And you don't understand what this country is about.
		You don't understand what just happened on Tuesday.
		And what you're going to get, sir, is the end of America as you know it.
		Maybe that's what you want.
		Well, I'm not putting that kind of thing on the air.
		I'm not putting you on the air.
		Don't call me anymore.
		You call somebody else's program.
		Not here, not with that kind of crap.
		On the first time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		About asking Clinton to resign, I don't think we should.
		After all, if he has any wind under his sails now, it'd have to be from the Republicans, wouldn't it?
		And that's a good way to test the Republicans.
		And I wouldn't want Gore, and I really didn't, Ginrich, didn't he throw 40 votes towards the crime bill when it passed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And for that, I shall not easily or soon forgive him, but he is going to be the new Speaker of the House.
unidentified		I know, but I wouldn't want him as president.
		I think he's wasting his time.
		As far as running for president in 96, there's too many people to remember.
		You know, it wasn't the Republicans that threw Mike Seinar out in Oklahoma.
		It was the Democrats.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, it's everybody's been angry at the Democrats, even the Democrats.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		That's what I'm saying.
		The Democrats are just as angry as the Republicans.
		Republicans didn't do what happened Tuesday by the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but there is one thing, though.
		You're absolutely correct.
		They did not.
		But, ma'am, the people swept out of office were Democrats, not Republicans.
unidentified		Well, I know.
		Mike Seinar was a Democrat, too, and the Democrats were the ones that threw him out.
		He was thrown out in the primary.
		And everybody threw McCurdy out.
		I'm a Republican.
		Don't be afraid of the corpse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, What you're documenting for me is absolutely correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The country, the entire country, not just Republicans, but the whole country, has moved to the right.
unidentified		That's right.
		They're angry and they're not going to put up with any more of this.
		And I don't care if Clinton vetoes everything comes through.
		I just soon didn't do anything else in Washington.
		They need to undo a bunch of things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, but you see, that's what the Republicans may indeed do, so don't hope for vetoes because what they send him will be a lot of undoing legislation, less government, not more, less tax, not more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing, man.
unidentified		Let's hope so.
		And I really don't know.
		I hope they get term limits because I'd like to see all of those such as Kennedy, Henry Gonzalez, even Dole, Ginrich, all of them.
		I'd like to see them all go because there's a lot of young blood.
		You bet, and they're good.
		And I've watched them Democrat and Republican.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, thank you very much.
		I think that term limits are in our future.
		In a way, you could say that Tuesday argues against term limits because look what was done.
		Everybody thought, well, we can't toss them out, but by God, we did, didn't we?
		I think, nevertheless, term limits that the Republicans now are locked into term limits.
unidentified		It's kind of a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a...
		It's kind of a hard place to be because now you've got a majority in Congress.
		And we'll just have to see if the people who showed all that conviction with regard to term limits continue to show that conviction now that they have the majority.
		It's going to be interesting.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Pat from Boise, Idaho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good morning, Pat.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'd be K-I-D-O in Boise.
unidentified		You betcha.
		Just have a little thing to run up the poll and see if anybody salutes it.
		I'm a real cynic when it comes to politics and politicians, and I tend to think that sometimes we trade one set of thieves for another set of thieves.
		And I just heard something tonight that I hadn't realized before.
		One of the big porkers in Washington is Bird from West Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's about the biggest, actually.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And another one is the guy from Pennsylvania, and I can't remember his name, who built the big, fancy railroad museum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that doesn't come to mind.
unidentified		Well, he built, he used government money, millions and millions and millions of dollars, to build a railroad museum in Wilkesbara or Scranton, somewhere in the coal country in Pennsylvania.
		Bird was the head of the Appropriations Committee.
		He has now gotten kicked out, and guess who's replacing him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who's replacing him?
unidentified		The other porker, the guy from Pennsylvania.
unidentified		So everybody's got to keep an eye out for this guy because he will probably do the same thing that Bird has done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
		Good point, man.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Good point.
		Of course, you've got to watch.
		But still, there's a very great deal of hope.
		Because remember, the Democrats have had the power now in the House for about 40 years.
		40 years.
		So there's bound to be a good change.
		Yes, of course.
		Given enough time, the Republicans would eventually fall into the exact same trap that the Democrats have been in.
		But finally, we've made our move, and there is a change, a big change in the wind.
		So have hope.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Yes.
		That's Larry from Omaha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Larry.
		Yes.
		How's Omaha, Nebraska?
unidentified		Yeah, but I tell you what, no matter how the election went, I'm still doing what I always have been doing, stocking up food and ammo.
unidentified		And I tell you what, I still think we might be in trouble yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, stocking up on food, ammo, guns, radios, emergency supplies, medical kits, all the rest of it, that's a good idea no matter who's in and who's out.
unidentified		That's it.
		I mean, I tell you what, though, I'm tickled to death with what happened.
		I think the best news I got the other day was when Mr. Foley, that's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely great news.
		Thank you very much.
		You notice when it's going your way, you can stay up and enjoy the election returns.
		If your guy or your people are losing, you just go to bed kind of bored.
		We'll be back.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		Thank you.
		Somewhere in time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Art, the best thing that could have happened did.
		Bill Clinton was elected to the presidency.
		Was this planned all along by the Republicans so as to get control of the House and Senators?
		No, this will go down into political history as a new strategy.
		Way to go.
		We've got it going our way now.
		Doug in Portland, Oregon.
		Thank you, Doug.
		Well, I never thought of it that way.
		I suppose we could claim it as a great strategy, but I don't think that it was.
		And if it was, it was a strategic couple of years of great suffering.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Larry.
unidentified		I call him from Fairbanks, Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Larry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, Larry.
unidentified		Yeah, I was going to mention to you concerning this money with the metal strips in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Why doesn't somebody just call the Bureau of Engraving?
unidentified		I think they're a branch of the Treasury and just get the straight scoop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a good idea.
unidentified		I'm all for that.
unidentified		That was pretty much the only point I wanted to make.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you get hold of them, let us know what they say.
unidentified		Call you back about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And the other thing I was wanting to know is you had somebody call up earlier, and they were saying that most Americans are for a gun control, assault weapon ban.
unidentified		Did I understand right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
unidentified		Well, have somebody call you up if they're from any part of the country where a ban has been put to a popular vote and if it's passed.
unidentified		Because it's my understanding that anytime any of these measures have been put to a popular vote, they get re-defeated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a natural fact.
		Thank you.
		And there was just another recent case of it that we heard about this morning.
		I mean, they have been voted down.
		When there is a vote on it, it's voted down.
		That's right.
		Well, there's been a lot of popular selling going on, frankly, about assault weapons.
		And I think that in surveys, Americans do respond that assault weapons ought to be banned or this or that.
		It's because they have been psychologically battered about the head and shoulders until they're politically correct on guns.
		And it's, oh, no.
		Assault weapons.
		Oh, my God.
		You know, and there is a lot of that reaction out there, and that tells you why we get the polls we do.
		But when it comes down to gun bans, Americans aren't going for it.
		Toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Well, good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Barb and Bellevue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Barb.
unidentified		Let's talk about GAP.
		All right.
		Has anybody seen this article in the Wall Street Journal that Clinton intends to pull out of GAAP the minute it is passed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Would you like me to send the article to you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd love that, yes.
unidentified		I'd be glad to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Barb, I'll love you.
unidentified		You create all kinds of trade disputes.
		Oh, Rush Limbaugh made me smile two nights ago.
		He said when Ross and Kowski leaves and cleans out his desk, someone needs to remind him to be sure to pick up his stamp.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call, Barb.
		Yeah, you know, he was involved in the postal allegations of scandal and all that, which is yet to be unwound.
		Maybe it will now properly unwind, along with a lot of other investigations.
		Nobody's calling for a witch hunt.
		But I'll tell you something, that investigation of Whitewater was a flat sham.
		It was an absolute sham.
		They could only go into, what was it, 4% or 5% of the allegations about Whitewater?
		It was a sham.
		A Democrat sham, and they controlled it.
		And now there's going to be a real investigation, and by God, there ought to be.
		I mean, what can be more suspicious than a whitewash?
		And it was absolutely a whitewash.
		So I don't know whether it's going to go anywhere, but at least now we'll have a chance to really find out, huh?
		Thank you, Al Domato.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Roger from Spokane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Roger.
unidentified		Yeah, I had two things.
		One of them is, what do you bet that this Supreme Court case that they're making for down in California, what do you bet the taxpayers get stuck with the bill?
		What do you bet?
		I mean, who's going to pay for it?
		The illegals?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who's going to pay for what?
unidentified		For taking this case to court.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Taking the constitutionality of the Well, whenever there's a constitutional question, the Supreme Court considers something, Roger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We always pay.
unidentified		Oh, well, that's why I wondered whether it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, that's that small potatoes, Roger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The illegal alien problem is, what, three or four billion dollars big?
unidentified		Oh, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would say we could spend a few dollars trying to get it turned around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
unidentified		Well, yes, I agree with that.
		Just as long as we put a lot of money into it to try to get it to hold up.
		And the other thing, too, was I had a question about the line item veto.
		Are you clear as to kind of how that would work?
		Would it allow?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Roger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would allow a president to take his pen and line out a specific provision of a bill that he found objectionable.
unidentified		Would he be able to, like, you know, just basically say no to amendments and basically it would get rid of pork?
unidentified		Or is, you know, that's what I'm wondering.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, Congress, in the way that it can override a veto, could override that, but it takes a larger margin.
unidentified		Right.
		But, you know, just I would be all in favor of that, of getting rid of pork.
		I hate when they pass these bills and there's things tacked on that Don't have anything to do with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We all hate that, Roger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so I think a line-item veto would be a great idea.
unidentified		That would, yeah.
		I just wanted to understand that because if so, I'm all for that.
		And I think even with us Republicans in control, I think it would benefit us, certainly in the future, if in case it goes back to the way it was for 40 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely right, Roger.
		And I said it to somebody earlier, thank you, that the best thing the Republicans can do now is prove that they have the strength of their convictions, unlike Democrats.
		What do I mean by that?
		I mean that we can send the things that we say we're for.
		The line item veto?
		Sure, let's send it to this Democrat president.
		See what he does with it.
		Oh, let's see.
		What else could we send?
		Well, we could send a middle-class tax break.
		We're for that.
		It is our conviction that in the end, that will produce more income for the government, not greater deficits, smaller deficits, because we will become a greater producer.
		Tax revenues, as a result, will go up.
		Gee, we could just do all kinds of things that we say we believe in.
		Term limits, you betcha.
		Let's go ahead and send that one up to the president, too.
		I'm all for it.
		We can prove that unlike the Democrats, we don't just mouth issues when we get legislative control.
		We go for it.
		And I think that's the best thing the Republicans can do now.
		Not go to the far right.
		That'll be wasting capital the way Mr. Clinton wasted it on the far left.
		Won't work.
		We've got to go to the center, and when I say center, conservative center, and begin to send Mr. Clinton legislation from that exact place.
		We'll see what he does with it.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Art, what issue of Omni did they do your interview?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know, ma'am.
		They told me it'd be three or four months that they do them that far ahead.
		So it should be soon.
		Just keep watching Omni.
unidentified		Okay, and I also want to say that that guy in Washington that you're referring to as a main duck, he's really a turkey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Yeah, he's really a turkey.
		On the first time, call our line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, ma'am.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
unidentified		I'm Malia in Honolulu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		Malia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I finally get to hear your voice.
unidentified		Your old facts, friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Say, I wonder, did you ever get the bills from the truck driver that was going to send them to you once, remember?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bills?
unidentified		The new bills, the colored bills that he told you he had seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know that he ever said he would actually send them to you.
unidentified		Oh, I was under that impression.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he said that he's seen them and that he was going to send me something about them, but he was actually the bills, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, was that it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I see.
		Oh, I wanted to tell you, I talked to Bob Crane about getting a Q fax.
		Oh.
		And he's going to fax me the information about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is he?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And sometimes when you're faxing a weather picture to him, fax one to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, I'd love to see one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will do it.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Hey, enjoy your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's good to hear your voice.
unidentified		Dr. Lee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		She sends the most wonderful faxes.
		Y'all do that.
		Bob Crane and I have been exchanging weather pictures.
		It is so much fun.
		QFAX is so much fun.
		I've been spending so much of my spare time playing with QFACs.
		Oh, God, it's great.
		Again, it's a computer board, a full-size computer board.
		You put in your computer, and it's got a receiver, a VHF receiver on board.
		Anybody can use it if you know about computers.
		You just put the card in there, you load in the software, you put this little antenna outside, takes about 10 minutes to put together, and you put it up on top of your TV antenna.
		And you're getting pictures, photographs, from space.
		About every hour, more or less, a satellite comes over, one of many series, either American or Russian, and they take a picture, and it turns out to be a high-definition picture that is written as a GIF file or TIF file or whatever you want it written on your computer.
		And you get these incredible weather pictures.
		Oh, it has been fun.
		Ask Bob Crane about QFACs.
		On the first time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Oh, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Very good.
unidentified		We're all happy, aren't we?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I certainly am.
unidentified		Have you heard from Charlie or No, Charlie?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think Charlie may have died.
unidentified		You think so?
unidentified		Where's Dr. Democrat?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was on yesterday.
unidentified		Was he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Is he happy about things?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, he claimed to be.
unidentified		He did, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Well, he must have had a big change of heart then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he reached out as far as he could reach with his neck out all the way and said, look, I think it's great because the Democrats will now be pulled back to the right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doc's contention was they were too far left and that this wounding that occurred on Tuesday will pull them back to the center and the president.
unidentified		Well, how is he going to stop the hemorrhaging?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
unidentified		Okay, Art.
unidentified		We're all happy about everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care, sir.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, hang on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hang on.
		I'll give you about three seconds.
		Two, one.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Michael from Golden.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Michael.
unidentified		Want to talk music.
		Okay.
		First of all, you're probably going to bleep me out for this one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't say something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have to bleep.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		What about Mr. Isaacs?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Darren Isaacs.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about him?
unidentified		I haven't heard him for a while.
unidentified		He advertised him for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely correct.
		We advertised for quite a long time, and...
		What are you talking about?
		He sold thousands.
unidentified		No, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He sold thousands of CDs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It worked out great.
unidentified		For him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		Number two.
		What is your incidental music?
		You know, the one that sounds like the pipe organ?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm sorry, I don't.
unidentified		Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
		Mm-hmm.
		You don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was fairly good, and I sort of recognize it.
		I can't put it an immediate.
		Most of it is Cusco.
		Most of what I use is a group called Cusco.
		Cusco?
		Yeah, C-U-S-C-O.
		And they're a German group.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		and they have a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there are about four.
unidentified		And, okay, so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you go to a record store and ask for Cusco, and they'll tell you about the albums.
unidentified		Okay, because I bought Midnight Express.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And I didn't find the one I wanted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what do you mean?
unidentified		The songs that I wanted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's only one song, sir, on Midnight Express, and that's my main theme.
unidentified		Oh, is it?
		Yeah.
		The chase theme?
		The chase music?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the music I play every night at 11 o'clock when I come on the air.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I guess that's it, then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Have a good morning.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		How are you, Archie?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very well, sir.
unidentified		This is Dave from St. Louis.
unidentified		I'm on KSC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
unidentified		So what do you think is going to happen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's like Dan Rowler talking about NBC.
unidentified		I know, it's horrible.
		We have two stations in town to listen to in the nighttime.
		It's your station.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but there's only one worth listening to.
unidentified		Well, during the daytime, they have several.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the daytime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		So at night, when I'm working the midnight watch here, I listen to you and Roger Fredenberg, and during the day watch, I listen to Rush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there you go.
unidentified		Tried to explain to somebody, you have to listen to those guys to mediate what you get from the liberal, biased, left-leaning communist media in this country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember, sir, don't be afraid to say what you feel.
unidentified		Oh, I'm never afraid to say anything about the media.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I sense that.
unidentified		Since 1968, I've despised them as low-life, cowardly, lying, scum.
unidentified		And that's the best I think of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But otherwise, they're a pretty good group.
unidentified		Yeah, I wouldn't want anybody I know married to one of them, but I'm just mad.
		One of the interesting things here is one of the Democratic women that lost on the Tuesday night election was absolutely livid because she lost to a Republican.
		Yeah, that's exactly what it said in the paper.
		She was livid for losing to a Republican because, after all, she was the better candidate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		And I think that's the attitude, that's the elitist, self-serving, self-centered attitude that most of these Democrats have.
unidentified		Unfortunately, we couldn't get rid of that Bozo Gephardt and the equally obnoxious Bill Clay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even in the races where incumbent Democrat annoying incumbents went back, the races were much closer.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The message is, believe me, unmistakable, absolutely unmistakable with what we did do and what we almost did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know they've got the message.
unidentified		Well, the funny thing here is that Bill Clay headed the postal committee, the Postal Service Oversight Committee.
		And last year, a company that a relative of his has an interest in bought a building for $4 million and two hours later sold the Postal Service for $12 million.
		And allegedly for expansion of the Postal Service, then they put another couple of million dollars in through shell companies rehabbing the place.
		And then in yesterday morning's paper, the Postal Service is now selling the building and they anticipate a $10 million loss in the sale of the building after it's been repurposed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you get them coming and going.
unidentified		Yeah, and now you're trying to understand why 29 cents stamp and you still can't get mail delivered in less than 24 days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, fax is coming on strong, sir.
unidentified		Oh, kiddo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the quote.
unidentified		Bye.
		Bye.
		Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
		Music.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		Thanks for taking my call.
		I'm Bob from Cathedral City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cathedral City?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where's that, Bob?
unidentified		Lower Desert next to Palm Springs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		And I got an idea about Bill Clinton resigning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		And then Al Gore would resign.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Well, then, after this would all take place, well, then Newt Gingrich would be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would Al Gore resign, though?
unidentified		Well, so Newt Gingrich could step in as president, then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why would he do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you're Al Gore, you wouldn't resign so Newt Gingrich could become president, sir.
unidentified		Well, he wants to make all of the Roger aliens happy out there in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The what?
unidentified		All of the Roger aliens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are those?
unidentified		Well, you know, the people, the followers and the people that are kind of backed by Roger Ales, I just like to call them aliens, Roger aliens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		But I think it'd be a fantastic idea.
		And then the conservatives could have...
		Well, they could have their whole way there.
		And then Clinton and...
		Well, you know, it could happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a good dream.
		No, it couldn't happen and wouldn't happen.
		But it's a good dream.
unidentified		Do you don't think Al Gore would resign if Bill Clinton did?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
		If you were the vice president and the president resigned, would you resign so somebody from the other party could take over?
		Hell no.
unidentified		In a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you wouldn't.
unidentified		In a minute.
		Let them do it.
		Let them have their way.
		Sure.
		I mean, why not?
		It's going to be just a total stalemate anyway, so why not do it that way?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine that anybody, any Republican would think that would be great.
		However, it's Dreamsville.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		And I realize that you have your tongue so far into your cheek that you're in danger of choking to death there, sir.
		Don't try and swallow like that.
		Damage yourself.
		That's a good dream.
		But I realized how facetiously you were presenting it.
		No, it's not going to happen.
		Not going to happen.
		Not in this lifetime, anyway.
		Not in this dimension.
		Well, okay, we're just about down at the bottom of the hour here.
		You know, that was obviously Democrat.
		Very frustrated, very angry, and I think that's the way it's coming out.
		They're just going to get angry, and they're going to get facetious and bitter.
		And we're going to be hearing a lot of that.
		This election on Tuesday really just knocked the stuffing right out of a lot of them.
		And I guess we should be compassionate about that.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		On this, Somewhere in Time.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Art.
		Your newfound support and admiration of Newt Gingrich is dangerous.
		What you forget is he's a member of the CFR, showed his colors when he released the votes for the crime bill.
		Now he and Dole are assisting Clinton in shoving GATT down our collective throats.
		I thoroughly disagreed with your excitement, other than the fact that I agree with you about the outcome of the election.
		We're not out of the woods yet.
		I predict GATT will pass.
		And Dole and Newt would have helped us sell out to the New World Order.
		Matt and Portland, look, Matt, I know.
		Don't mistake my joy over the election of Republicans, which I truly have, lots of joy about that, Matt, with some newfound excitement about Gingrich.
		The only thing I said I enjoyed about Gingrich was that he throws verbal bombs.
		I've always liked that about Newt.
		And Bob Dornan's another one.
		He'll throw verbal bombs all day long.
		He's really good at it.
		I like that in a politician.
		You know, I like people who say what they think.
		I don't have a problem with that.
		Matt, don't confuse that with some newfound support based on my forgetting what Newt did with those votes for the crime bill.
		Gee, Matt, you're impressed too easily.
		I'm excited, but I remember all those things.
		And then this, Art, before I became your board op here in Washington, I worked in banking, and that metal strip in certain bills is simply an anti-counterfeit device.
		No great mystery.
		Your pal Chris, yeah, Chris, that's what I thought, too.
		It's an anti-counterfeiting measure.
		People, of course, want to attach all kinds of meaning to things like this, and they want to look for conspiracies.
		I'll tell you, America is...
		We're very good at thinking about conspiracies and cooking them up, and that's all right.
		Occasionally, there are real conspiracies out there, you know.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Don up here in K-Vi Country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Don, in K-Vi Country.
unidentified		Got to get this dirt crane box down here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you get that cream box turned off now, Don.
unidentified		I just did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good for you.
unidentified		I got three items for you.
unidentified		All right, the first one is you're doing good work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		The second one is there's such a thing as short-term tactics, and then there's long-term strategies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And the Republicans would be well advised to take the contract with this 10 points and religiously go through each one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		That's the first item.
		Third item.
		The 187 thing apparently passed 60 to 40.
		About 59, yeah.
		But yet there's going to be, I guess, a recount between Feinstein and Huffington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		It sounds to me like there's something fishy going on with the vote counting down there.
unidentified		Those two things just don't seem to correlate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why would you think they necessarily would, Don?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, not everybody who voted for 187 might have voted for Huffington.
unidentified		Well, the big thing...
unidentified		Well, but she was very much against the 187.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Well, at any rate, it's just something that seems to just doesn't seem to add up right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, think of it this way, Don.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure there's some people that you support, Republicans, who have occasionally drifted on one issue or another that you disagreed with them on.
unidentified		Oh, no doubt about it.
unidentified		I've been guilty more than once.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, but then you went back to those Republicans anyway, didn't you?
unidentified		You better believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thanks, Don.
		Well, then that sort of makes the argument there.
		You see, it's not some people will vote on a single issue, but not everybody.
		And it's just like Gingrich.
		I'm really ticked off at Gingrich and always will be about the vote on the crime bill.
		That was a big old sellout.
		But, you know, there's going to be other issues and other fights.
		And it may well be that I will choose to be on Mr. Gingrich's side on some other issue.
		I don't have any choice about the matter.
		I mean, if it's a matter of deep philosophical belief and I'm in agreement, I'm not going to walk away from him and join some Democrat over on the other side.
		I mean, let's have some common sense here.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		No, you're not.
		On the wildcard line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, Jose.
unidentified		How are you this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just spiffy, Jose.
unidentified		That absolutely fresh body parts is the second funniest thing I ever heard you say.
unidentified		Do you remember I used to advertise, I think it was some kind of home remedy book or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And do you remember they used to have How to Quiet a Cocky Baby?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It had.
unidentified		And then you turn on your Zap gun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It had what?
unidentified		And then one time, you know, they had the Colocky Baby portion of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		How to Quiet a Cocky Baby.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How to Quiet Cocky Baby.
unidentified		And then you turn on your Zap Gun.
unidentified		And I thought it was the funniest thing I ever heard on the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I imagine not everybody caught that.
unidentified		Well, I did.
unidentified		Listen, I have a reason why I think some of the Mexican, being a Mexican myself, government seems to be protesting against this 187 thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		I don't think they comprehend the fact that the California people have spoken.
unidentified		I think they think it's kind of like their government system where the fix is in on every vote and somehow they protest enough, they'll change it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they think that, Jose.
		Thank you.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I don't know what good they think.
		I'll tell you this.
		Anything that's said in Mexico by the Mexican president or the Mexican people in violent protest or burning down McDonald's or, you know, whatever they're going to do is only going to serve to harden opinion in this country.
		Now, Mexico ought to understand nationalism.
		God knows they're nationalistic enough themselves.
		They ought to understand nationalism.
		And they ought to understand that a people like ourselves have every right to control our borders.
		And I don't know why they wouldn't understand that.
		Maybe they're taking it personally and they think that it's racist.
		Well, it's not.
		It absolutely is not.
		It's only common sense.
		It's nationalism.
		It's a protection of that which we have.
		And trying to give it to American citizens, not non-citizens.
		I mean, this is really, honestly, just common sense.
		If the Mexican people were not in our school systems in Southern California, there would be more money to spend on the American students that are there.
		There'd be more books.
		There'd be more classrooms.
		There'd be more personal attention from the teachers.
		In other words, there'd be more for American citizens.
		And to me, the Mexicans ought to understand that.
		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Mark.
unidentified		You remember when I was telling you about the opinion I had about how close it was going to be on 187?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		We had polling data that was almost a week old, and we were told down here that it was closing fast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what the media said.
unidentified		Right.
		And there wouldn't furnish any fresh information.
		Here it ends up winning 60 to 40.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you remember what I said?
		I said that the politically correct track had been laid down.
		And so what that does, it puts people in the closet.
		People who support 187 just don't say so.
		But when they go into the polling place, hell yes.
unidentified		Well, I'll tell you, they did the same thing about Pete Wilson.
		They said they're only four points apart.
		Here he, you know, terrorism a new fancy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know.
unidentified		It's really ticked me off because somehow or the media is becoming a larger and larger factor.
unidentified		And what I'll give you another example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.
		No, no, no, sir.
		No.
		You see, you don't need to be ticked off because no matter what the media did, it didn't come out that way.
		So they didn't drive the result, did they?
unidentified		Well, they didn't, but I'll tell you another example, though.
		Nine months ago, Barbara Boxer, who was drugged across the finish line by Diane Feinstein in the previous election, just ducked out of sight.
		But we find out nine months ago, she fired an aide he'd been working for, you know, since she was in the Congress, and they wouldn't publish anything or file the arrest until after the election.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Well, look, I think you are, on the whole, wrong.
		In other words, I believe that the media may try to drive things in a certain direction, but in the end, we just finished proving that they really can't do it, that the American people really do have their own mind, believe it or not.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, let me turn off the radio real quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please do that, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As soon as you get on the air, actually.
unidentified		Alrighty, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm sorry, but I think you gave your last name, and we don't allow anybody to give their last name on the air.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
unidentified		This is Trent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Trent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Trent, K-N-Z-R, Bakersfield.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Trent.
unidentified		Good.
unidentified		All righty, I just.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's on your mind, Trent?
unidentified		Oh, Dr. I'm just glad 187 passed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
unidentified		That is, I think it'll stand up like you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, it'll pass constitutional muster.
unidentified		Oh, it'll have...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, who cares?
unidentified		Yeah, that's true, too.
		But I got a question for you.
		Okay.
		I bet my buddy up at the main gate, a Big Mac on this, so come through for me, Art.
		Is the Federal Reserve private or government?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's aliens, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's owned by the aliens.
unidentified		Oh, come on now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, everybody knows it's private.
unidentified		Of course.
		I just got myself a Big Mac.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, enjoy your Big Mac.
		On the first time caller line, you're on the air.
		All right.
		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
		Oh, sorry.
		I just turned my radio down.
		I guess I got a time delay or so.
		This is Bob from Eagle River, Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bob.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
unidentified		Great.
		Hey, I've got a few things for you.
		First off, your smoke payment can't beat mine anyway.
		But another thing is on this dollar bill thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But see, we don't all live in Eagle River, Alaska.
unidentified		Yeah, that's true, Art.
		Not everybody's blessed like I am.
		On this dollar bill, where they can sense how much you got while you're going through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that's true.
unidentified		Well, I've heard something about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, me too.
		But, you know, you hear that all the time.
		They can read exactly how much money you've got in your pocket.
		No, I don't believe they can.
		I'm willing to have it demonstrated to me that they could, but right now, as far as I know, that's a bunch of, you know, scare stuff.
unidentified		Well, just think about this, Art.
		If the technology is there that they can do that, what would prevent anybody from detecting the credit cards that are in your wallet?
		It'd be the same thing, wouldn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To what end?
unidentified		Well, because you've got the magnetic strips and whatnot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Magnetic strips have got to be passed right in front of the scanner.
unidentified		Well, how would they do it with the currency?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm trying to tell you, I don't think they are.
		You're not hearing me.
		That's a bunch of baloney.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I had something else to say to you, but I forgot what it was.
		Hopefully I'll get through to you again.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hopefully you will.
		Thank you.
		No, I don't believe that that is true.
		I know there's a lot of people out there saying it, but I don't believe that it's true.
		I don't believe they can detect it yet.
		I think that that is a simple measure to prevent counterfeiting.
		And as far as the magnetic strip things are concerned, you've got to pass that right in front of a scanner.
		People, of course, want to believe the worst.
unidentified		To be continued...
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
		Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, you were right.
unidentified		I was wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On what?
unidentified		Oh, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On what?
unidentified		Well, I didn't think they'd take Congress.
		I knew they'd take the Senate.
		I didn't think they'd take the Congress.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, surprise, surprise, sir.
unidentified		Kind of mixed feelings.
		You know, I mean, I've heard some names called tonight on Tom Foley.
		He was a hell of a guy.
		He did a lot for apple growers and boing workers and stuff like that.
		But I guess people forget it just because he gun ban.
		I don't know.
		You know, I'm kind of mixed on a lot of it.
		You know, we knock a guy out like Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think his suing with regard to term limits ticked off a lot of people.
		I think it made some people angry that, frankly, weren't even in favor of term limits.
		They just got angry when he turned around and seemingly said, hey, screw you guys.
		We're going to take this thing to court.
		The term limits, don't be silly.
		That made a lot of people angry.
unidentified		That's a backdoor way of looking at it, but it's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I honestly believe it to be correct.
unidentified		I think the one that bothered me the most, though, is I don't know if you're familiar with the Tate Kryler race.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm sorry I'm not.
unidentified		To me, I think he leaves his ninth district here.
		Norm Dix is my congress.
		I mean, they elected Guy over Mike Krydler that he's never had a paycheck in his life, 29 years old, not that that's a disclaimer, but I just couldn't understand it.
		You know, what scares me the most, and me and you have agreed on one out of ten things, but what scares me the most is somebody that's like me, I've never made more than 50.
		I've always made more than $25,000 a year.
		I just get the feeling now, you know, are these guys my leaders now, too?
		Am I included in this?
		Like, if I lose my job, is there going to be unemployment?
		If I lose a leg or an arm, is there going to be workman's comp?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think so.
unidentified		And I mean, yeah, I know, and I think so, too, but there's, you know, these things I've mentioned here, and like the guy in Palmer, Alaska, you know, who said we shouldn't have them, you know, the time that when these things came up, Republicans didn't want them the first time around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the only thing that the difference, for example, might be the Republicans would be less inclined to extend the period of unemployment and extend it and extend it and extend it the way the Democrats are inclined to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But taking away unemployment insurance, no.
unidentified		I know I've got to get you going, but can I ask you one question on that?
		I mean, if you were the Duke, right, you're the number one guy, and you're the only Republican I like, by the way.
		I mean, the average person is out of work for nine months to a year or more.
		I mean, that's what a friend of mine told me at what he heard at the unemployment office, at the Boeing thing.
		And 71% of America goes from paycheck to paycheck with less than six months' wages in the savings account.
		So how long should unemployment last?
		And I'll let you go.
		Thanks, Archie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you, sir.
		Well, I think six months is sufficient.
		If the economy is truly in awful condition, then you might get an extension from that.
		But mindlessly continuing extensions to the degree that it begins to turn into AFDA aid for dependent adults, that's mindless, and the conservatives would probably be disinclined to do that.
		So the differences, sir, are really at the margin, but it is an important margin.
		On the first-time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, sir.
unidentified		This money thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What money thing?
unidentified		Well, the strip.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		If you got one in your pocket, you can take a look at them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've looked at it many times, sir.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		It says USA and then the bill.
		It'll say the amount of it's a 50.
		It says USA 50 and then it's backwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so.
unidentified		Okay, just not much to it.
unidentified		It's titanium.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And another real funny little thing around the picture, like Hamilton on a $10 bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		There used to be a little line around there.
unidentified		Now it says USA backwards, and then it says USA forwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, they are supposed to be very trackable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you read it backwards, does it say the devil or something?
unidentified		No, no.
		No, no.
		No, it's just praying one way.
		It'll say like $10 USA, and then it'll be backward the other way, and then it goes the other way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very suspicious.
unidentified		Just, you know, comment is all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Let's all look carefully at our bills and pick out other strange, conspiratorial things about them.
		Where does it say UN?
		Look for UN on the bill.
		Can anybody find UN on the bill?
		Not U.S., UN.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Ari.
		Hi.
		Fanny from Bellevue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Okay, I want to tell you what a lame duck is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's a lame duck?
unidentified		A duck is slang for a person, especially one qualified as being odd, harmless, funny, ineffectual, and so forth.
unidentified		And lame is unsatisfactory, as an excuse, imperfect, ineffectual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a perfect description of our president.
unidentified		Duck is a lame duck, formerly in Congressman serving at the last session of his term, temporarily disabled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a perfect description of our president.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Love you.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Perfect.
		Straight from probably Webster's or somebody or another.
		On the wildcard line, you're on the air without much time.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, this is Jim and Kirbank.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Jim.
unidentified		KFAR.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Just have a question with Hart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gonna have to be real quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay, on the government, as far as gun issues are concerned, do you think, as far as a Brady bill, that the Republicans might repeal that?
unidentified		And as far as, quote, responsible, unquote, very responsible citizens are concerned, just like myself being a paramedic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Listen, the show's over and I've got to go.
		Thank you for the call.
		I think the Republicans will come up with another crime bill and that they may replace Brady with the instant check or something else logical like that.
		Don't fear the Republicans, folks.

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