Art Bell’s Coast to Coast AM episode dives into Proposition 187’s $3.1B annual cost for undocumented children, contrasting with Clinton’s declining approval (45% vs. Dole’s 39%) and Republican gains from the 1994 midterms. Callers debate border enforcement, term limits, and Clinton’s agenda—like GAAP changes and Whitewater investigations—while Bell dismisses media-driven narratives, citing voter independence. He warns Republicans against ideological extremes, urging tax cuts and principled governance instead. The episode blends immigration crises, political gridlock, and fringe theories like magnetic ink currency tracking, framing it as a clash between stability and Clinton’s "upheaval-first" policies. [Automatically generated summary]
Anyway, that's out of my life for a couple more weeks, and then I'm back for part two.
Like a rematch or something.
Anyway, hello.
We were going to have a guest this evening, but I think I got the date wrong.
I called the hotel in Las Vegas where my guest was supposed to be, and my guest is not even due to check in for a couple of days.
So I think my guest is on next week, and it's going to be an interesting appearance.
It's on a virtual reality, perhaps even the darker aspect of virtual reality.
My guest is going to be next week, I guess, from Penthouse Magazine, and they're doing a really strange thing with virtual reality and computers.
And so that'll be next week, next Thursday, I guess, not this Thursday.
Now, tomorrow night, we are going to have a guest.
Tomorrow night is going to be a fascinating night.
If you have been one of those people curious about the new diseases, you're going to not want to miss Lindsay Williams.
Lindsay will be here talking about all the bad stuff.
Stuff you heard about on 48 Hours, 60 Minutes from the CDC, Strepe, you know, the bug that eats your face.
New diseases that may pop up, like the one that killed so many so quickly in Africa.
AIDS, other diseases, new diseases that we don't even know about that no doubt are coming.
So that'll be tomorrow evening at this time, and I guess we'll have our guest from Penthouse next week.
You guys know me.
I'm liable to do anything.
All right.
This is, since we do have a guest tomorrow night, this is going to be kind of more like a Friday night Saturday.
And there are a lot of people off, as a matter of fact, on Friday anyway, aren't there?
So maybe it is more, even more than I think, very much like Friday night, Saturday morning.
Anyway, good to have you.
We're getting new affiliates.
We've got a new affiliate coming Monday in Liberal, Kansas.
As a matter of fact, if I can find it, I really ought to talk to you about that right now.
What happened is my little clipboard fell down before the program, and I had to pick it up.
Here it is.
KSCB in Liberal, Kansas.
And we're going to be welcoming them aboard on the 14th of October.
October 14th.
And I think that's...
Yeah, that'll be just early next week.
Also, another one, WJTNAM in Jamestown, New York will be joining us.
And we've got yet another New York affiliate on the way.
I think I'll have the call letters in the next day or so.
And so the network continues to build at a rapid, very rapid clip.
All right, the news of the day, such as it is.
187.
As you all know, it passed overwhelmingly.
California is in a big argument with itself over 187 right now, which, of course, greatly restricts or even eliminates services to illegal immigrants.
It's also tied up in court right now and in protest as well.
There was an emergency session of the L.A. County supervisors yesterday, and one of them, Mike Antonovich, said, quote, California is not to be a sanctuary for those who deliberately break the law.
Uncle Sam is not Uncle Sugar, end quote.
A Hispanic supervisor, Gloria Molina, said, quote, we have not only a public health crisis, but we have a duty and a responsibility for the overall well-being of L.A. Los Angeles County residents, end quote.
Now let's think about that statement.
Very carefully chosen words designed to apparently include all residents, including illegal residents.
Again, she said, quote, we have not only a public health crisis, but we have a duty and a responsibility for the overall well-being of Los Angeles County residents.
If, indeed, as I would read it, those are carefully chosen words to say we have a duty and responsibility to take care of illegal immigrants, I say baloney.
I actually say a lot more than that, but I can't say it to you on the radio.
I'm sure you get the idea.
It's beginning to get violent.
Last night at California State University at L.A., there was an anti-187 rally.
It turned ugly.
The police ended up dragging several people off.
20 were arrested.
In Arizona and New Mexico, a number of Lawmakers there are already saying they are considering similar laws.
So, as I told you last night, and I think I'm vindicated by that tonight, it would quickly spread, and those states concerned about the possible immigration of those who would leave California because of 187 are now suddenly very concerned and wanting to consider similar legislation themselves.
Now, let's look at what's going on.
It's in the courts right now, as you know.
And down in Texas, the equal protection provision of the Constitution was cited by a judge as the reason to rule that even illegal immigrants must be included in the state's school system down in Texas.
However, if you check into that ruling, you'll find the judge in that case stated that if any damage could be shown, that is damage to the school system or to the students, citizens of this country, the ruling would have gone the other way.
So in other words, if Texas could have shown there was damage to the school system, to the people, or to the citizens of Texas, the ruling would have gone the other way.
Now, in California, I don't think there is any question about the damage.
The Urban Institute estimates that in seven key Western states, here in the Southwest mostly, get this now, the cost of educating 641,000 children here illegally is $3.1 billion.
$3.1 billion.
Incarcerating 21,000 illegal immigrants, which is the number we've got in a pokey, will cost 400, or is costing $471 million for a great grand total of $3,571,000,000.
California's share of that, according to the Urban Institute, is $1,668,000,000.
That's what California has to pay.
Now, in my opinion, and without question, crowded classrooms, overburdened facilities, budgets in meltdown absolutely constitute real and documentable damage.
Therefore, it is my firm view that 187 should be and will be tested in the courts.
Do not despair of the injunction, the temporary restraining order against 187.
We should want it to be tested, ladies and gentlemen.
Because you see, ultimately, it is not the job of the states to enforce immigration rules and regulation in law.
It is the job of the federal government.
And in effect, as this winds its way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, it's my view that it will be held to be constitutional, that it will be held that the Equal Protection Clause does not apply, absolutely does not apply,
and that it is damaging severely even California's budget, California's educational system, and I believe that it's going to be held to be fully and absolutely constitutional.
One Hispanic protester yesterday in Texas worried that, uh-oh, all of this might be coming to Texas, and he was on TV NBC yesterday yelling, quote, we give millions and millions of dollars to dictators while our Mexican children are going to be kicked out of school, end quote.
So, if 187, in your opinion, is constitutional, and in my opinion, 187 is indeed constitutional, as a matter of fact, it is the job actually of the federal government to do all of this, then you should not fear or be angry about a court test.
It's absolutely inevitable.
Only thing is, I think we're going to win.
And when I say win, in effect, it's going to order the federal government to damn well start doing their job.
So, that's my view of things.
You may have some comments on 187.
I'm sure you do.
Everybody seems to.
Here's a fax on the subject from our liberal down in Phoenix, Doc Berry.
Maybe conservatives, he says, are right that Prop 187 is not racist.
The proposition will, he says, deport illegals that are criminals, stop illegals from entering the U.S., stop the hiring of illegals by citizens, prevent illegals from living on welfare.
If Prop 187 doesn't do the above, maybe it is designed to send a message about all the red-headed, freckled illegals from the socialist Scandinavian countries like Denmark and Sweden.
Racist bigots message that is aimed at children.
That is 187.
Like looters, you hate brown-skinned children, he says, meaning me.
You class them with gay Marines and women combat pilots.
Slime erupts, says Doc Berry in Phoenix.
So obviously what he means by this is Quite clearly, why, yes, we are racist.
Yes, we hate brown-skinned people, and on and on and on.
Well, it's not the first time I've been accused of that, Doc.
And I understand that when you liberals run out of gas on any subject intellectually, you charge racism.
And I think you were out of gas on this one, Doc, weeks ago.
If you wish to think me racist and hating brown-skinned children, Doc, you just go right ahead.
It's not going to cause me to shrink away from support of something that would possibly give the educational system in this country, in this part of the country, back to the students and back to the taxpayers, which is where it belongs, not the hands of anybody from anywhere else, period.
Trouble liberals is their compassion is mindless and endless.
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Trouble liberals is their compassion.
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
Newt Gingrich, the likely new Speaker of the House of Representatives, is upset.
He's upset with the Washington Post, probably not the first time he's been upset with the Post, which yesterday quoted Mr. Gingrich as referring to Mr. Clinton, or actually the Clintons, plural, even though you don't see much of her these days, as, quote, counterculture McGovernics.
Counterculture McGovernics.
Plus, he referred, according to the Post, to those folks who work for the Clintons as left-wing elitists.
Mr. Gingrich is angry.
He is being portrayed by the left-wing press as a right-wing bomb thrower.
And he said he's been trying to be good lately, and the Washington Post has quoted him, he said, out of context.
To me, it sounds like something Gingrich did say, and I don't think he ought to shrink from it.
They are counter-culture McGoverniks.
They are left-wing elitists in the White House.
Why apologize for that?
Why would people like Newt Gingrich, admittedly a bombthrower, political bomb thrower, why would he want to change what has propelled him as far as he has gone now?
If he becomes a wimp, then he'll just be like the rest of them.
Which, by the way, on some subjects he is anyway.
There is a new NBC Wall Street Journal poll actually that asks a number of questions, and I think you'll find it pretty bad news for the press.
Question one was, who should take the lead nationally in policymaking, President Clinton or Congress?
What do you think the answer to that was?
55% of the people responding said Congress.
30% of the people responding, not 43% by the way, 30% said President Clinton should take the lead.
Now, 56% of the people responding say the reason they elected Republicans to the House and Senate is because of their pledge, get this, to cut taxes and welfare payments.
All of this is really, really bad news for the president.
By the way, the siege of the tobacco company executives and the tobacco companies by good old Henry Waxman is now history.
The new chairman, Bliley, says he's going to end all this nonsense.
Henry Waxman says it's a terrible blow to the health of the American people.
He was chairman, I say was past tense, of the House Subcommittee on Health.
Bliley is the new chairman.
The tobacco investigations and summoning and grueling will end.
As for the president, he's off to Asia, getting out of the country.
Listen to this now.
Here's the way NBC put it.
Quote, following the Tuesday election, which according to NBC brought him such despair, the president was in despair.
Now, we're all curious what the press is going to do now.
Will his agenda change?
Again, back to the NBC poll for a second.
62% of the people responding say they want real change, real change in the way the president is leading the country.
Mr. Clinton has never been lower.
There is a late NBC poll on a preference between Bill Clinton and Bob Dole.
And if the election were held today, Mr. Clinton would get 39%, and for the first time, Bob Dole would get 45%.
So in other words, Bob Dole would beat the pants off the pasty thighs of Mr. Clinton in an election held today.
Andrew Kohut of the Times-Mirror Center said, quote, it means the public didn't like his performance in the first two years.
It means they feel Washington needs a very big shake-up, end quote.
The American public didn't much like what Mr. Clinton did on the first couple of years, and they want a real shake-up.
So that is why they have done what they've done.
But get this, ladies and gentlemen, even today, after saying he got the message, after looking like he swallowed a frog, Mr. Clinton launched into a long, a somewhat rambling defense of his agenda.
In other words, on the one hand, he said, Oh, I get the message, but on the other hand, I'm sorry.
He did nothing but defend right down the line every single item on his agenda.
So I think we can fairly ask, does he really get it?
And I think the answer is, no, he really doesn't.
I thought he might come out conciliatory, ready to embrace the Republicans, at least to some degree.
But it's clear that he's not going to do that.
He's going to try and stick to his agenda.
And if he does that, there's going to be blood, political blood on the floor.
And Mr. Clinton's going to be a lame duck.
Nothing's going to get done for two years.
The Congress will propose.
He will veto.
He will propose.
The Congress will dispose.
In other words, gridlock, nothing's going to happen.
And in two years, he's going to be political history.
Enough time to get the numbers out here.
A couple of more items.
We'll do the bottom of the hour break and then start two-way talk.
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Thank you.
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Not a great subject, you'd think, but it really is.
More and more high schools around the country are requiring volunteer work.
That's right, requiring, mandating that you volunteer before you graduate.
You've got to have 40 hours of community service.
17-year-old Daniel may not graduate.
He is refusing to volunteer.
His attorney says the requirement to volunteer violates the 13th Amendment, a ban on slavery.
He's actually going to run it on this issue.
He says it's slavery.
Now, the school in court defended the requirement to volunteer by saying, quote, we are teaching citizenship in an activist way, end quote.
That is the defense.
About, this is not a trivial issue, about a third of all schools across the country will have mandatory volunteerism, which is a stupid phrase anyway, by next year.
And I think it's a good thing that students work in the community.
It is a good thing.
But I don't think they ought to call it, for one thing, they shouldn't call it mandatory volunteerism.
I guess it has to be because it is community service.
But you cannot have mandatory volunteerism.
I don't think.
So do you think that program, that students should have to do that?
As a matter of fact, if you don't, you don't graduate.
Volunteer or else.
Do you endorse that?
Good a program as it is.
What do you think about making it mandatory?
And I've got a bunch of different facts that are about like this.
It happened again tonight.
A few times earlier this evening, we had two or three of those silent sonic waves pass through the San Diego area.
Windows shaking violently, no accompanying audible booms or earthquakes.
What in the world is the military or is it the aliens up to?
Ooh, that's a good question.
I've got a number of, well, here's another one.
Aren't there have been numerous reports of windows rattling all over San Diego County twice this evening?
I experienced one episode where earthquake-type shaking of my second story went on for nearly 15 seconds.
About 15 to 10 to 20 minutes, I wasn't paying attention before the stronger shaker occurred.
I saw what appeared to be two sets of lights laid out in triangles converging.
It appeared like two sets of lights on large jets going in opposite directions.
Now, I'm questioning if it wasn't one of those triangular airships that are mentioned on your program.
Well, who knows?
But indeed, there are a lot of shaking things like that going on in San Diego.
One other item, and then I'll get the phones open.
Teasing.
Teasing.
Now, there's a strange subject for talk radio, huh?
Teasing.
Remember, when you were a kid, everybody teased everybody.
I mean, you fool around with my name a little bit, and you can realize the names I can be called and have been called many times, both as a youngster and, by the way, also as an adult.
Teasing.
Teasing between kids has gone on for as long as we've had kids.
NBC did a big piece on it yesterday.
And it is true, teasing used to lead to, maybe, a fist fight these days.
It leads more frequently or as frequently to gunfights.
Kids bring out guns.
So the schools are trying to get the teasing stopped.
And I just wonder if this is the right approach to stop the teasing or if we need to look at deeper behavioral problems.
What do you think?
All right, let's do a little two-way talk radio, shall we?
I think it was a Time magazine article I was reading earlier today.
GATT, if implemented, they claim, would bring the equivalent of $1,500, put it into the wallet of every American.
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Well, I don't really agree with those figures, but what I really, really don't want to see, I don't think something as important as GATT should be voted on in the lame duck session.
And I think people need to really let Senator Dole know that we want the new Congress, the new Senate, to vote on this important issue, also to get it out of fast track so if there are some bad things in there that we can't amend them and, you know, and work on it, because there's no hurry on it.
The same Time magazine article I read said, the reason that Bill Clinton is in such a hurry for a GATT is that the real spendable income of the average U.S. citizen was reduced by something in the order of about $200 this last year.
And you see, it goes to the reason why I think this president is in so much trouble.
They say the economy is okay, but individually, people in the country don't feel okay.
And it's because, in fact, they are not okay.
They're barely treading water and maybe losing a little bit of ground.
And that's the real truth, and that's the reason that Mr. Clinton wants to hurry GATT on along.
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Well, I also think that GATT is promoted by the major multinationals, and there's a lot of big money behind it pushing it.
I don't know how you can make that out of what he said yesterday.
The man gave a Fidel Castro-type rambling speech defending his agenda, on the one hand, saying he's going to cooperate with the Republicans, but on the other hand, defending every single thing that he's wanted to do that the American people just said, we don't want to do.
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Art, what's going to happen is this.
He's going to see that any conciliation he makes to the Republicans is going to make his numbers go up in the polls.
Once he sees that, this guy, or excuse me, the president, is going to jump all over that.
All he wants, in my opinion, is to save his own height.
He did make one, thank you for the call, very snide remark yesterday.
He suggested that with the current makeup of Congress, the idea of term limits, which are mainly forwarded by Republicans, according to the president, beginning to look better and better to him every day.
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 10th, 1994.
I'd just like to make a couple comments, and then I'll get off the line here.
All right, go ahead.
First of all, I'd like to talk about that measure 187 in California.
I do support the issue, and I think that the majority of the people that have put that initiative on the ballot are right in tune with a lot of other people in the United States.
Living in Oregon, I think, you know, since this thing passed, people in Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, we may weep some of the people coming up this way.
I mean, if it gets to the point where the states have got to do their own international border crossing policing, then what do we need the feds for at all?
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That's true.
Well, here's another issue.
Currently, all these illegal aliens and people, all the children are in school eight hours a day.
At least they're kind of like monitored.
We know what they're doing.
You take these kids, you put them on the streets, you say you can't go to school any longer.
Look, we don't have the money, the manpower, the resources.
Right now, having them here is costing three upwards of $4 billion.
So what are you talking about?
We don't have the resources.
If we took half a billion dollars and put it into border enforcement, into ejecting those who are not here legally, half a billion, I say, we would end up saving conservatively $3 billion.
So I don't know what you're talking about.
What we can't afford is to let it continue the way it's going right now.
That's what we can't afford.
On the first-time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Hey, Art, this is Dave calling from Portland, Oregon.
I think they're probably testing it out in the neighborhood, yeah.
Because they're trying to develop, I was reading in Popular Science, they're trying to develop how to deliver it in a safe way for the troops to be able to use it.
What I'm thinking is I'd like to kind of pose a question for the audience and for you is should Clinton, for the good of the country, should he offer his resignation?
Do you think this last election, along with the post-election surveys that show it was indeed in effect a referendum on the Clinton administration, since we don't have votes of confidence in our system in this country, and we don't, we don't have them.
He's entitled to stay in office for a couple of more years.
But in effect, since this election has been shown to be such a referendum on the work of Mr. Clinton, do you think that he should resign?
That he should offer to resign now?
Now, bear in mind, if he does resign, that's going to mean we get the guy who looks like he's got a board strapped to his butt, the vice president, and straight up his bad.
I've never seen anybody sits at attention the way the vice president does.
Al Gore would be president.
How many of you think the president ought to resign?
Like in Los Angeles County, not very many people know it, but you know, for the past 14 years that the LA County Health has been trying to keep a cap on a major tuberculosis outbreak.
I can see you're going to be looking forward to my show tomorrow night.
You know, that really ought to be good.
It's going to be on new diseases, new and awful diseases.
What might be coming?
There was a CDC press conference not long ago, and they said, for whatever reason that they believe it, that major new and terrible diseases are coming.
Some people charge it is from the over-prescribing of antibiotics and other drugs that these little bugs are now beginning to learn to get around.
And certain strains are beginning to come out now, pretty scary stuff that are resistant to any form of cure that we have.
There was a recent thing in India about the plague and how resistant it was.
There's all kinds of pretty awful things on the horizon.
And we're going to talk about all of that tomorrow morning.
And it sounds right down John's alley.
So he's going to go into the military and hopes to work with biological agents.
Oh, it's the American Dream.
We'll be back.
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It is the federal government's job to enforce our borders and our immigration policies.
Let me repeat that.
Read my lips.
It is the federal government's policy of responsibility to enforce our border and our immigration rules and regulations and laws.
And if 187 is ruled to be constitutional, that, in effect, is going to say the federal government is not and must do its job.
And that is preferable to Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, all of these other states that will be affected, having to pass their own laws, no doubt, with different application in each state.
That's why we have a federal government to enforce policies that have to do with international borders and that kind of thing.
So we don't have to have the various states or the several states doing it.
And as I also said, in Texas, where it was ruled they must educate illegal aliens under the Equal Protection Clause, that was only because the people who were seeking to have them tossed out did not show harm.
In California, there's all kinds of harm to be shown.
I believe it is constitutional and will pass and should.
And when I say pass, I mean the legal test, which it inevitably is going to get.
On the subject of President Clinton, yesterday I was wondering whether he was going to be conciliatory or whether the president was going to continue to doggedly pursue his own agenda.
Well, there are all kinds of surveys out this morning that show the American people indeed voted on Tuesday as a referendum on the Clinton administration.
And President Clinton yesterday came out and showed his true colors.
He defended in sort of a long, rambling Fidel Castro-style address, and only in the sense I'm not likening him to Fidel in any way, except the long, rambling kind of defense of his policies that Fidel does, that President Clinton did yesterday.
Long, rambling.
I don't think we, I think we were on the right track, he said.
He doesn't see anything wrong with what he was doing.
In other words, he didn't get the message.
Didn't get the message.
So we're talking about that a little bit.
Some shakers down in San Diego.
Just all kinds of things.
Don't forget, Lindsey Williams will be here tomorrow morning.
Is it Williams?
Boy, I hope it is.
Lindsey Williams, yes.
He'll be talking about new diseases.
We're going to fire that one up at 11 o'clock Pacific time.
Should be fascinating.
Here is a fax from Ralph in Tacoma.
In President Clinton's speech, he stated he is going on with his agenda, and he's against undoing what has been passed already.
By the way, it says Ralph, this is done on my new Sanyo Fax machine.
I love it.
And then this, to Art.
For some time, I was very much afraid the Washington Liberals would be successful in shutting the nation's talk show hosts up.
That time, hopefully, is now deferred.
But we must exercise eternal vigilance lest it threaten to occur again.
I agree with that.
With the Republicans in place, talk radio is now safe.
Well, somebody called in just before the news with what I thought was a rather provocative question.
They said, look, this is indeed a referendum on the president's job, and the grade is a failing grade on the first two years.
While we don't have votes of confidence in this country, and the president is entitled to stay in office for two more years, the caller asked, should he be asked to resign?
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Well, I think that there's a whole lot of people that would agree there, and that's not a bad idea at all, except for the fact that what you're left with is probably worse than what you got now.
If we ended up with Al Gore in office, it would be a big blunder.
The second point on GATT is that one important thing that nobody's pointed out, and I think it's a well-kept secret, after GATT goes through, all of the other third world countries will have the same voting power as we do.
Well, that's the one I've been bitching about now for weeks.
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But the plan, and I'm pretty sure I'm right on this, the plan would be that a multinational company with a few million dollars, $15 or $20 million, could bribe any number of public officials, one or two in each head of the country, And vote against us to further deplete our patent protection and our resources.
Well, of course, I guess you could argue that the United States, along with the other industrialized nations, being the richest, would have much more bribery money.
We could bribe people better.
But, you know, the whole idea, I understand exactly what you're saying, and I do object basically to the tenant that any third world nation would be given the same vote that we have in matters of economic world trade.
That's asinine.
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And the important thing is the loss of the patent protection would be drastically reduced.
I assure you, Al Domato is going to begin issuing subpoenas, and they're going to begin doing to the Clinton administration what the Clinton administration, with Henry Waxman's help, was trying to do to the tobacco industry.
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And they said the tobacco hearings are going to stop.
And how would you write legislation that would address the behavioral problem?
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Well, first of all, you know, you'd have to write a 30, I think a $30 billion bill to create jobs in this country, to create a better, you know, to help educational systems in this country.
You know, instead of prisons and punishment and sentences that are carried out, instead of all that sort of thing, they wanted midnight basketball programs.
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Well, yeah, but the Democrats didn't get it done either.
There for a while, I thought you Republicans were all going to jump off a cliff from depression.
I am happy, too, for the Republicans that they can run things their way or start trying.
I doubt They'll get anywhere.
And then the next paragraph: through the years, I have noticed that, get this, every Republican I know is thoughtless, selfish, self-centered, could care less about their fellow man, and almost kill themselves trying to get rich.
But hey, what the heck, huh?
I feel bad we lost control, but I also think we are about to get bigger problems.
You guys just don't have enough heart.
I hope to God you prove me wrong.
If so, or if not, maybe a UFO will come and rescue you, Republicans, and take you somewhere that you belong and leave us kind-hearted people here, reed liberals, on earth.
And we'll have a great old time taking care of each other.
She looks like one of those people who thrives, you know, as a real political animal.
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Well, the reason I call it is that I wanted to let all the gun owners out there, particularly out there in California, know that the Senate race out there between Diane Feinstein and Huffington is not over yet.
And I heard this on another talk show on the Ken Hamlin show.
Yes.
And they had said, Mr. Hamlin had said that when the divers had pulled the car out and they had opened the door and they saw the two kids, and this is what really got me upset.
Again, I read the Time article on Susan Smith yesterday.
And whoever wrote the article, I can't recall who it was, began it by saying, I can only hope that when those children hit the water, they have been asleep.
That they did not feel that car going down the gravel road approaching the lake, seeing their mother jump out and feel themselves hit the water.
We know they were alive when they hit the water.
We don't know whether they were awake.
And that was kind of an editorial comment, but universally felt, I'm sure.
I hope that's true, too.
It's such an awful case.
I actually can't think about it.
It depresses me too much to think about this Smith thing.
Nothing.
Well, I'll tell you, in about nine years of doing this program, nothing ever hit me that hard.
And it comes right back when I begin thinking about it.
Something like a social system, like a government, is a hugely complicated thing.
And no human being, no matter how smart he is, can push over that first domino and predict what's going to knock into the next thing, to knock into the next thing, to finally what the outcome is going to be.
And when you do something big and high-handed, like let's nationalize all the health care, or let's take away all the guns, if you've taken out a vital organ, you at least want to just do it to California, for instance, rather than do it to the whole United States.
Well, yes, I understand exactly what you're saying.
And that, sir, goes right to the core of what I think the American people have rejected about Bill Clinton.
In other words, things are kind of rolling along all right.
We don't want to do something that will overturn the apple cart.
And Bill Clinton keeps looking like that's what he wants to do.
And the American people, frankly, are not going for it.
unidentified
Yeah, so what I want to say is welcome back, gridlock.
I want to see what it is.
In response to that guy's fact earlier, I want to see a nicely paralyzed government that can't get it together to do anything more than what is obviously and compellingly inarguably necessary.
Gridlock is not something you really want because it essentially means there is not much movement one way or the other for a couple of years.
But that is certainly preferable to movement in the wrong direction.
So as soon as we are able to discern what President Clinton really wants and really is going to do, whether he's going to extend the hand of bipartisan cooperation or whether he is going to continue along with his own agenda, and I'm afraid it looks like that's what he's going to do.
You know, I have been surprised at the revival of Tony Coelho.
He has been revived as a Democrat strategist, although I must say he was one of those responsible for strategy prior to this election, going into this election.
I saw him interviewed in a number of places, and maybe Mr. Coelho's revival is going to be brief indeed, because if it was his strategy, well, I really need not say anymore.
Yeah, I get it from there, and I can't get anything locally here.
Once in a while, I get it from a station close, but it fades in and out.
Okay.
Anyhow, I just want to say that, you know, I've been voting since 1948, and the other night I think I was the second happiest day of my life when all this took about on the voting.
A perfect example is Washington State and the change that has been brought to Washington State through talk radio, through KVI radio in Seattle, KGA radio in Spokane, all of our other affiliates dotted throughout Washington.
Talk radio in this election made a big difference without question.
And I think if they still had the power, they would be trying to find right now a way to shut us up, and the fairness doctrine would again be back on the table.
Fortunately, they no longer control the table.
unidentified
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Well, and the word was spread basically through talk radio at other grassroots levels as well.
But talk radio, I'll tell you what, really, no wonder they were thinking about coming after us.
It really has begun to have an effect.
unidentified
Yes, and the NRA was helpful.
There were many other groups, the Christian Coalition, the Citizens Taxpayers Alliance, and of course, as you say, Talk Radio.
One of our local hosts here, Todd Herman, who you've had on your show, actually on his program, a group sprouted up, and every single weekend from that time on until the election, had a rally at the North Town Mall.
10.30 every morning, every Saturday morning, they'd be out there with their signs.
Good morning, everybody, and welcome in those of you who just join us at this hour.
It's been a good couple of first hours.
Great, actually.
We're discussing a great variety of things.
And I'll just give you a tiny brief recap.
Proposition 187.
Oh, Proposition 187.
People having rallies, getting arrested.
It's in the courts.
There's violence over it.
I will simply kind of sum it up by saying, in my opinion, 187 is constitutional, will pass constitutional muster.
And instead of the states having to individually do this, all the surrounding states of California, which are now getting ready to do it, it is not the several states' job.
It is the job of the federal government.
187 should be tested in the courts.
It will pass, in my opinion, and force the federal government to do what they ought to be doing.
The border areas, immigration control, regulation, and law is the job of the federal government to do.
And by God, they had better get to it.
And that is the message of 187.
And hopefully, that will be what it will accomplish.
We're talking about the president because of a number of things.
A big NBC survey out showing, in fact, what occurred on Tuesday was a referendum on the Clinton administration.
Squarely was.
I mean, a survey after it.
The people said yes, absolutely, yes, it was.
A great majority of them say that.
As a matter of fact, 56% of the people say the reason they elected Republicans to Congress is the pledge that Republicans took to cut taxes, cut welfare payments.
55% of the people think Congress ought to make policy.
Only 30% of the people want President Clinton to make policy.
It is a terrible, terrible survey for the president.
As for the president, he's now off out of the country, about to take off out of the country to Asia following the election, which according to NBC brought him, quote, such despair, end quote.
As a matter of fact, in the latest poll, Bill Clinton would lose to Bob Dole if the election were held today, 45% to 39%.
Andrew Kohat of the Times Mirror Center said, quote, this means the public didn't like his performance in the first two years.
It means they feel Washington needs a very big shake-up, end quote.
But the president spent yesterday, after originally saying, Well, I've got the message, I can see what it is that people want.
Yesterday, in a Fidel Castro-like, long, rambling defense of his agenda, he virtually said, wrong.
He said, quote, I do believe we're moving in the right direction.
And after saying he got the message, he proceeded to say he's going to continue with his agenda.
And so then obviously he doesn't get it.
Somebody called me up about an hour and 15 minutes ago and said, well, then maybe he ought to be asked to resign.
Well, we don't, of course, have votes of confidence or no confidence in this country, but maybe he ought to be asked to resign.
Then the subject of lame duck came up.
And I simply asked, where did the expression lame duck come from?
And I think somebody who just hunted me a fact may have figured it out.
Art, lame duck.
A lame duck with only one good foot would swim round and round in circles, getting nowhere fast.
But haven't our lame duck congress and lame duck president been doing just that for the last two years, celebrate the mandate?
That's from Cogoland.
Volunteer work.
One-third of all the high schools in America have mandatory volunteer work.
And there are now students suing, trying to say they're not going to do it.
17-year-old Daniel may not graduate because he is refusing to do it.
His attorney says, look, this mandated volunteerism violates the 13th Amendment, a ban on slavery.
The school defends required volunteerism, which is a stupid term, by saying, quote, we are teaching citizenship in an activist way.
And I agree, it is a great program, but you really can't have something called, can you, required volunteerism?
You can't really call it anything else because it is community service.
And you're not being paid for it.
So it is mandatory volunteerism.
Are you for it or again it?
So we'll talk about that a little bit.
Just all kinds of things on the table.
Tomorrow morning, we're going to have a very, very interesting guest tomorrow evening, actually, who will talk about the new diseases.
And I'm really looking forward to that program.
That will begin at 11 o'clock Pacific time.
So find a way to hear the first hour of the program if you can tomorrow night.
So as a result, we're kind of treating this as a Friday night, Saturday morning.
Anyway, a lot of you were off, I know, later today.
And so in a lot of ways, more than one, it is like a Friday night, Saturday morning.
On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, I wanted to give you, this is the godmother from Kansas City, Missouri, KCMO.
If it is, and if it's not going to be cooperation, conciliation, then it's going to have to be gridlock, and it's not going to be a pretty thing.
The Congress is not going to do anything the president wants to do, and the president is not going to do anything Congress wants to do.
He's going to veto bills sent to him that don't fit into his agenda, and he's probably going to have a hard time trying to get his agenda even written into legislation.
So then it'll be gridlock, and it is too bad it must be that way.
But if that's the way it must be, that certainly beats proceeding with the Clinton agenda that he apparently refuses to give in on.
I just wanted to say that I've voted in the last several presidential elections, and I voted for Clinton two years ago because I thought he was a moderate.
I thought he was going to kind of walk down the middle of the road.
And I was kind of pushed in the wrong direction by Bush and Pat Buchanan and some of those people who didn't seem to have the best interests of the country or myself at heart.
They are going to attempt to reinstitute the gag rule on abortion discussion in clinics.
That's about as far as I believe they're going to go.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, I just think, you know, if they can balance the budget and they put through the balanced budget amendment and they put through term limits and things of that sort, that they will continue to maintain a majority for quite some time.
But if they start leaning back towards right-wing extremism, then I think that probably in two years, I certainly will have to lean towards the left again just to try to moderate things or bring things towards the center.
Well, I guess they could, but I don't think they would.
And so I think the only way that we can approach this is to flood Bob Dole and others in Congress with a request that they not do it in the lame dock session, that they stop that and absolutely wait until the new Congress gets in and everybody has a chance to read it and understand it and then vote on it.
We've got to stop the vote coming up this stupid one-day session.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
And I think that, you know, honestly, that's what they're going to do.
And I can't imagine, it's like I said, Ralph Nader said it's a naphth on steroids.
It's the message that counts, and it is going to go to the courts, and I think ultimately it's going to be declared constitutional and thrown right back into the face of the federal government, which, sir, is where it belongs.
unidentified
And I agree with you 100%.
I wish it would be that way.
I wish, you know, I mean, there's a lot of people in this country who are fed up paying taxes.
It's high taxes.
I mean, I try to buy a home, and I can't afford to do that.
And the suggestion was that he be asked to do so if he does not begin to modify his agenda after receiving this message, that perhaps editorially and so forth, people will begin to ask him to resign.
unidentified
Yeah, but we need to be careful here.
We need to really protect this president for the next 60 days, and we don't want him resigning.
So at least we know that there will be some good people in there working for America as opposed to this horrid, horrid thing that seems to be out there where people are concerned mainly about themselves and to heck with anybody that doesn't have what they have.
And let's see, also, I want to say probably the biggest favor, now I say this in all seriousness, tongue not anywhere, the biggest favor that the Republican Party could do President Clinton right now would be to push the agenda of the far, far right in Congress.
There are lots of things in the middle that we can push, like a capital gains tax cut, reduction rather, and a middle-class tax cut, and maybe the line item veto.
And gee, I could think of a number of things that are considered in the center that we could do that he would probably want to veto that would be bad news for him to veto.
unidentified
Well, sure.
Let me tell you, though, I don't think he would veto a capital gains tax cut.
I really do hope, and all this partisan bickering is kind of fun, actually, but I really do hope, and in all sincerity, that they can get together and work things out, because that's what's best for the country.
It's not a question of us versus you, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I think that the Republicans are hurting the country if they bring up Whitewater, if they try to crucify the people.
He did not have an abuse of power while in office.
And if it can be shown that he did either one of those two things, and I'm in agreement with you, I don't think that they'll be able to.
I think, though, that what they need to do is quit this partisan bickering, quit the stuff that Newt Gingrich is saying, that they're counterculture McGovernx, which I don't think Bob Dole could have been too happy with him saying.
It would be mean and cruel to pick up a line right now because we're coming up on a break here at the bottom of the hour.
So we are discussing a lot of very serious stuff this morning.
Prop 187, where it's going, what it means.
We're discussing the president, where he thinks he's going.
And I say thinks he's going, what he wants to do, whether he is going to cooperate and conciliate, or whether he's going to himself be a sponsor of Gridlock for the next two lame, very lame duck years.
And of course, the incredible occurrence on Tuesday, the Bloodless Revolution.
unidentified
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What we have won does entail a big responsibility.
In other words, we've got to come through.
And that may be difficult to do if we get an obstinate, veto-wielding president.
If that's what we have in our hands, it's going to be very difficult to come through.
And he can endeavor to do to Congress what essentially was just done to him.
I don't think it's going to work, but I think he may try, and that is to stop things by vetoing them, giving the appearance of gridlock, and then blaming Congress.
May be hard for him to do, but I believe he may try.
If his intent is to proceed with his agenda, he's going to try.
And don't underestimate this man.
Though down, he may not be out, even though it looks like he's out, even though it looks like he's a duck swimming in circles.
He's come back from the dead before.
He has a propensity for doing that.
And so I'm not taking anything for granted, nor should you.
I heard Rush Limbaugh talking about this the other day.
On your $20 bills, 19 and 91 sequence, there is down in the lower right-hand corner a little international code.
It's between the layers.
And he said that they took one apart and found that if you go on a plane with money and you've got one of those bills in your pocket, they can run you through the scanner and find out exactly how much money you're taking out of the country.
I got a pretty neat letter from Arkansas yesterday, and I meant to bring that out here.
I think I've got it in the other room.
I'll go and fetch it here in the next break.
But it is a pretty neat letter from somebody in Arkansas who just was absolutely amazed that nobody ever bothered to ask him or anybody else, seemingly in Arkansas, about Bill Clinton before we took him on nationally.
I've never been able to talk to anybody who's seen them.
unidentified
No, he mentions them in his report that he's seen them.
He's gone to the Federal Reserve Bank and got some copies, and they've run them through the reading machines like they do for bank checks or magnetic readers.
Well, we are having a very large problem with forgery of $100 bills.
This is a story they've been keeping kind of under wraps.
It's leaked out a couple of times.
But in the Bacaw Valley of Lebanon, southern Lebanon, they are, and perhaps in Iran as well, it's thought, knocking out high-quality forgeries of $100 bills.
So we're going to have to do something.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what he mentioned, too.
But then he and Ron Powell, Ron Powell is another former congressman from Texas, puts out a report, too.
And he's been on that team for a long time.
When he was in Congress, he was on the committee that had to do with the banking committee about money, and there were plans for new money back then.
Even though the president may wield his veto pen, I think there are probably enough frightened Democratic congressmen who saw the massacre that occurred the other night, they're going to think twice before they hit the campaign trail again and sing, and vote for me because I oppose these stupid Republicans.
I mean, in some districts, it'll still sell.
Some of the urban districts and so forth about, well, they're cutting away all our good federal programs and so on and so forth.
But I think this past election put a real scare and a lot of Democratic congressmen.
The Senate has a majority.
The Republicans have majorities in both houses.
And I think if it takes an override, I suspect the Republicans may have the frightened votes and the Democratic side to do it.
Well, it could be, but, you know, traditionally, vetoes are very hard to override.
And he could make it very difficult.
Now, the one thing we do have, of course, are the committee ships.
We have the head, we're going to head these committees.
For example, your Jesse Helms there is going to head foreign relations and foreign relations.
And I very much doubt that Jesse would be in the category of a person friendly to the UN, the One World Order, that sort of thing.
unidentified
Right, right.
Right.
I think what may see happening is sort of like a two-front war.
You'll have the frontal assault with the contract with America, but you'll also have the aerial attack of the various committees dragging Helms' Foreign Relations Committee and D'Amato's Banking Committee.
And the president, I mean, he's going to be isolated.
He can try and sell the same old stuff in a whole new way and could temporarily capture the American people long enough to get elected.
unidentified
Perhaps.
Perhaps.
But I think if the Republican contract with America, if it succeeds, at least a good part of it, people will see the Republicans really mean what they say.
They promised this, and they're delivering, or at least if they can show that the Republicans voted consistently in favor of these things, and it was the Democrats, the deadlocked Democrats who were pulling back on term limits and pulling back on a balance.
Well, yes, but you see, that's what the Republicans may indeed do, so don't hope for vetoes because what they send him will be a lot of undoing legislation, less government, not more, less tax, not more.
That sort of thing, man.
unidentified
Let's hope so.
And I really don't know.
I hope they get term limits because I'd like to see all of those such as Kennedy, Henry Gonzalez, even Dole, Ginrich, all of them.
I'd like to see them all go because there's a lot of young blood.
It's kind of a hard place to be because now you've got a majority in Congress.
And we'll just have to see if the people who showed all that conviction with regard to term limits continue to show that conviction now that they have the majority.
Well, he built, he used government money, millions and millions and millions of dollars, to build a railroad museum in Wilkesbara or Scranton, somewhere in the coal country in Pennsylvania.
Bird was the head of the Appropriations Committee.
He has now gotten kicked out, and guess who's replacing him?
Well, look, stocking up on food, ammo, guns, radios, emergency supplies, medical kits, all the rest of it, that's a good idea no matter who's in and who's out.
unidentified
That's it.
I mean, I tell you what, though, I'm tickled to death with what happened.
I think the best news I got the other day was when Mr. Foley, that's it.
And the other thing I was wanting to know is you had somebody call up earlier, and they were saying that most Americans are for a gun control, assault weapon ban.
One of them is, what do you bet that this Supreme Court case that they're making for down in California, what do you bet the taxpayers get stuck with the bill?
And so I think a line-item veto would be a great idea.
unidentified
That would, yeah.
I just wanted to understand that because if so, I'm all for that.
And I think even with us Republicans in control, I think it would benefit us, certainly in the future, if in case it goes back to the way it was for 40 years.
And I said it to somebody earlier, thank you, that the best thing the Republicans can do now is prove that they have the strength of their convictions, unlike Democrats.
What do I mean by that?
I mean that we can send the things that we say we're for.
The line item veto?
Sure, let's send it to this Democrat president.
See what he does with it.
Oh, let's see.
What else could we send?
Well, we could send a middle-class tax break.
We're for that.
It is our conviction that in the end, that will produce more income for the government, not greater deficits, smaller deficits, because we will become a greater producer.
Tax revenues, as a result, will go up.
Gee, we could just do all kinds of things that we say we believe in.
Term limits, you betcha.
Let's go ahead and send that one up to the president, too.
I'm all for it.
We can prove that unlike the Democrats, we don't just mouth issues when we get legislative control.
We go for it.
And I think that's the best thing the Republicans can do now.
Not go to the far right.
That'll be wasting capital the way Mr. Clinton wasted it on the far left.
Won't work.
We've got to go to the center, and when I say center, conservative center, and begin to send Mr. Clinton legislation from that exact place.
We'll see what he does with it.
On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Art, what issue of Omni did they do your interview?
Bob Crane and I have been exchanging weather pictures.
It is so much fun.
QFAX is so much fun.
I've been spending so much of my spare time playing with QFACs.
Oh, God, it's great.
Again, it's a computer board, a full-size computer board.
You put in your computer, and it's got a receiver, a VHF receiver on board.
Anybody can use it if you know about computers.
You just put the card in there, you load in the software, you put this little antenna outside, takes about 10 minutes to put together, and you put it up on top of your TV antenna.
And you're getting pictures, photographs, from space.
About every hour, more or less, a satellite comes over, one of many series, either American or Russian, and they take a picture, and it turns out to be a high-definition picture that is written as a GIF file or TIF file or whatever you want it written on your computer.
Well, he reached out as far as he could reach with his neck out all the way and said, look, I think it's great because the Democrats will now be pulled back to the right.
Doc's contention was they were too far left and that this wounding that occurred on Tuesday will pull them back to the center and the president.
Tried to explain to somebody, you have to listen to those guys to mediate what you get from the liberal, biased, left-leaning communist media in this country.
Yeah, I wouldn't want anybody I know married to one of them, but I'm just mad.
One of the interesting things here is one of the Democratic women that lost on the Tuesday night election was absolutely livid because she lost to a Republican.
Yeah, that's exactly what it said in the paper.
She was livid for losing to a Republican because, after all, she was the better candidate.
The message is, believe me, unmistakable, absolutely unmistakable with what we did do and what we almost did.
I know they've got the message.
unidentified
Well, the funny thing here is that Bill Clay headed the postal committee, the Postal Service Oversight Committee.
And last year, a company that a relative of his has an interest in bought a building for $4 million and two hours later sold the Postal Service for $12 million.
And allegedly for expansion of the Postal Service, then they put another couple of million dollars in through shell companies rehabbing the place.
And then in yesterday morning's paper, the Postal Service is now selling the building and they anticipate a $10 million loss in the sale of the building after it's been repurposed.
Your newfound support and admiration of Newt Gingrich is dangerous.
What you forget is he's a member of the CFR, showed his colors when he released the votes for the crime bill.
Now he and Dole are assisting Clinton in shoving GATT down our collective throats.
I thoroughly disagreed with your excitement, other than the fact that I agree with you about the outcome of the election.
We're not out of the woods yet.
I predict GATT will pass.
And Dole and Newt would have helped us sell out to the New World Order.
Matt and Portland, look, Matt, I know.
Don't mistake my joy over the election of Republicans, which I truly have, lots of joy about that, Matt, with some newfound excitement about Gingrich.
The only thing I said I enjoyed about Gingrich was that he throws verbal bombs.
I've always liked that about Newt.
And Bob Dornan's another one.
He'll throw verbal bombs all day long.
He's really good at it.
I like that in a politician.
You know, I like people who say what they think.
I don't have a problem with that.
Matt, don't confuse that with some newfound support based on my forgetting what Newt did with those votes for the crime bill.
Gee, Matt, you're impressed too easily.
I'm excited, but I remember all those things.
And then this, Art, before I became your board op here in Washington, I worked in banking, and that metal strip in certain bills is simply an anti-counterfeit device.
No great mystery.
Your pal Chris, yeah, Chris, that's what I thought, too.
It's an anti-counterfeiting measure.
People, of course, want to attach all kinds of meaning to things like this, and they want to look for conspiracies.
I'll tell you, America is...
We're very good at thinking about conspiracies and cooking them up, and that's all right.
Occasionally, there are real conspiracies out there, you know.
You see, it's not some people will vote on a single issue, but not everybody.
And it's just like Gingrich.
I'm really ticked off at Gingrich and always will be about the vote on the crime bill.
That was a big old sellout.
But, you know, there's going to be other issues and other fights.
And it may well be that I will choose to be on Mr. Gingrich's side on some other issue.
I don't have any choice about the matter.
I mean, if it's a matter of deep philosophical belief and I'm in agreement, I'm not going to walk away from him and join some Democrat over on the other side.
Anything that's said in Mexico by the Mexican president or the Mexican people in violent protest or burning down McDonald's or, you know, whatever they're going to do is only going to serve to harden opinion in this country.
Now, Mexico ought to understand nationalism.
God knows they're nationalistic enough themselves.
They ought to understand nationalism.
And they ought to understand that a people like ourselves have every right to control our borders.
And I don't know why they wouldn't understand that.
Maybe they're taking it personally and they think that it's racist.
Well, it's not.
It absolutely is not.
It's only common sense.
It's nationalism.
It's a protection of that which we have.
And trying to give it to American citizens, not non-citizens.
I mean, this is really, honestly, just common sense.
If the Mexican people were not in our school systems in Southern California, there would be more money to spend on the American students that are there.
There'd be more books.
There'd be more classrooms.
There'd be more personal attention from the teachers.
In other words, there'd be more for American citizens.
And to me, the Mexicans ought to understand that.
On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Mark.
You remember when I was telling you about the opinion I had about how close it was going to be on 187?
You see, you don't need to be ticked off because no matter what the media did, it didn't come out that way.
So they didn't drive the result, did they?
unidentified
Well, they didn't, but I'll tell you another example, though.
Nine months ago, Barbara Boxer, who was drugged across the finish line by Diane Feinstein in the previous election, just ducked out of sight.
But we find out nine months ago, she fired an aide he'd been working for, you know, since she was in the Congress, and they wouldn't publish anything or file the arrest until after the election.
In other words, I believe that the media may try to drive things in a certain direction, but in the end, we just finished proving that they really can't do it, that the American people really do have their own mind, believe it or not.
I mean, they elected Guy over Mike Krydler that he's never had a paycheck in his life, 29 years old, not that that's a disclaimer, but I just couldn't understand it.
You know, what scares me the most, and me and you have agreed on one out of ten things, but what scares me the most is somebody that's like me, I've never made more than 50.
I've always made more than $25,000 a year.
I just get the feeling now, you know, are these guys my leaders now, too?
Am I included in this?
Like, if I lose my job, is there going to be unemployment?
If I lose a leg or an arm, is there going to be workman's comp?
And I mean, yeah, I know, and I think so, too, but there's, you know, these things I've mentioned here, and like the guy in Palmer, Alaska, you know, who said we shouldn't have them, you know, the time that when these things came up, Republicans didn't want them the first time around.
Well, the only thing that the difference, for example, might be the Republicans would be less inclined to extend the period of unemployment and extend it and extend it and extend it the way the Democrats are inclined to do.
But taking away unemployment insurance, no.
unidentified
I know I've got to get you going, but can I ask you one question on that?
I mean, if you were the Duke, right, you're the number one guy, and you're the only Republican I like, by the way.
I mean, the average person is out of work for nine months to a year or more.
I mean, that's what a friend of mine told me at what he heard at the unemployment office, at the Boeing thing.
And 71% of America goes from paycheck to paycheck with less than six months' wages in the savings account.
If the economy is truly in awful condition, then you might get an extension from that.
But mindlessly continuing extensions to the degree that it begins to turn into AFDA aid for dependent adults, that's mindless, and the conservatives would probably be disinclined to do that.
So the differences, sir, are really at the margin, but it is an important margin.
I think the Republicans will come up with another crime bill and that they may replace Brady with the instant check or something else logical like that.