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Aug. 31, 1994 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Don McAlvaney - Being Prepared
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From the high desert and the great American southwest, I bid you good morning and welcome
to another edition of Coast to Coast AM, live talk radio throughout the nighttime.
Actually, the fastest growing, now largest all-night radio program in America.
Glad to be with you.
My name is Art Bell.
And this morning, this evening, depending on your time zone, we have a guest.
His name is Don McElvenny.
I shouldn't have to tell you what he does.
He publishes a newsletter.
And he's a very informed individual.
I think you'll find it absolutely fascinating.
He is going to be at the Preparedness Expo in Seattle, September 9th through the 11th, which, as you know, we are advertising.
And I suspect that had something to do with our ability to snag him for an interview.
And so snag him we have.
And so let us go to him.
And I'm not exactly sure.
I forgot to even ask where you are.
Don McElvenny, welcome.
Where are you?
Hello, Art.
I'm in western Colorado in the mountains.
I've been looking out the window, but it's dark, so I can't see my mountains tonight.
Anyway, it's certainly good to have you on the program, Don.
I've heard so much about you.
Thank you.
Nice to be with you.
I guess first, tell us how you got into the business you're in, publishing a newsletter and doing that sort of thing.
How did you get to this, Don?
Oh gosh, it's a long story.
Back in the 60s, I did some undercover work for a couple of intelligence agencies and penetrated some communist fronts.
This was back when I was actually at the University of Texas.
I got out of the University of Texas, started doing lectures on communism and socialism.
I went to Wall Street in 1967 and have been in the investment business, almost every aspect
of the investment business since that time.
I started going down to South Africa because I was involved with South African gold stocks
in the middle 70s and ultimately went down there about 35 times, made a lot of contacts
there and in about 1976 started writing my intelligence newsletter which is now called
the McElwain Intelligence Advisor.
I have a precious metals brokerage and consultation firm in Colorado.
I write my newsletter, but my first love is to try to wake up Americans as to the incredible decline that our country is in, the dangers our Constitution faces, the dangers to our freedoms and so forth.
So I've been writing my newsletter for over 20 years now, and I guess it's pretty widely distributed around the world.
uh... talk about things that people most people talk about that's what those are
claim to famous we'd love to move people out of their comfort zone and make them
very very uncomfortable uh... don communism's gone
uh... well i mean it's it's almost gone it's it's in collapse all over the world
so i'm not a current what did your newsletter turned toward
we continue to write about things that we have been writing about uh... the new
world order of economic problems in the country and so forth but
we've written quite a few letters to point out to people with communism
is not good that the cold war is not over that these has not arrived
that one-third of the world is still under the control of the communist in
red china Believe it or not, still in Russia, the Twelve Republics part of Eastern Europe, now South Africa.
Red China, etc., etc.
We've written a great deal about what I believe is one of the greatest strategic deceptions of all time, the idea that communism is dead.
It's not dead at all.
The KGB was never dismantled in Russia.
The KGB has been reorganized three times in the last five years.
It's more powerful than it was 20 years ago.
Russia is run from behind the scenes by the old Communist Party of the USA, or Communist Party of Russia, or the Soviet Union.
Uh, the military was not dismantled.
They still have close to 45,000 warheads on 12 to 15,000 missiles, mostly pointed at the United States.
They still have 6,000 defense factories that were not shut down.
They're still cranking out tanks, uh, fighter planes, uh, bombers, long-range bombers, ICBMs, submarines, et cetera, et cetera.
And when Zhirinovsky comes to power in the next 12 to 18 months, or a hardliner like Zhirinovsky, perhaps a Ruskoi, I think people will all of a sudden say, oh my gosh, what happened?
What are the odds of that, by the way, of Jernowsky coming to power?
What odds would you give it?
Might give about 90%.
Oh my.
Yeah, I think it's very high.
Remember, he out-polled Yeltsin in the last election.
He is a radical.
He is a nationalist.
They say he's a fascist, they compare him with Hitler, but the important thing is he's a 100% creation of the KGB.
The KGB created him, they made him, and so he has a great power behind him.
So whether it's him or another hardliner, as the chaos spreads across Russia, and it will, the hardliners are simply biding their time.
They've got the KGB, they've got the Red Army.
They've still got most of their armaments.
Well, they've got more than most of their armaments.
They've got more armaments now than they did five years ago, intact.
And so they're biding their time.
Meanwhile, they're sucking massive amounts of aid out of the West, financial aid, high-tech aid, food aid, etc.
And the West, under interesting leaders such as Bill Clinton and others, is massively and rapidly disarming.
They're letting Russia into the henhouse in Europe.
Russia is to be admitted to NATO.
Which is just absolutely incredible.
It's like letting the Mafia come into the FBI.
And Russia is being admitted to the European Union.
And meanwhile, Russia is neutralizing its western flank of what NATO will be neutralized.
The American military presence is being dismantled and pulled out of Europe.
It's been going on since 1988 when the INF Treaty was signed.
Our troops are being diminished, and by the end of next year, probably down to 100,000.
That's from probably 350,000 about four or five years ago.
Speculate a little for me, Don.
If Juranowsky came to power, what do you think would occur?
What would happen?
What would he do?
Well, he's made a lot of statements and people laugh at him and say, ha, ha, ha, yuck, yuck, this big guy buffoon, this clown, etc., etc.
He's made statements like the Russians still own Alaska and will go back and take it back and nobody takes him seriously.
He's written a book about how they will make the great move south into the Persian Gulf.
We have to understand that Brezhnev said in 1973, in his Brezhnev Doctrine, he said, we will take those two great treasure chests upon which the West depends, the strategic oil reserves in the Middle East, the strategic minerals in South Africa, and then we will dictate the terms of surrender to the United States and to the West.
Well, that'll be World War III.
Yeah, but the difference could be if that happens, and I would say that that could happen in three to five to seven years.
I'm not predicting it's going to happen tomorrow, but basically what they've done is they're in the process through Glass-Nos number six.
This is the sixth period of Glass-Nos per historic.
We had one in the 20s under Lenin, one in the 30s under Stalin, and the 40s again under Stalin, and the 50s under Khrushchev, and the 70s under Brezhnev.
Each time, the Communists promised that they would become good guys, clean up their act, get rid of their old Communist ways, become capitalists, go to free elections, free markets, become just like us, but, oh, by the way, we need massive aid from you guys to do it.
And each time we poured in the aid, and each time they'd turn around and, you know, become the bad guys that they were before.
The sixth period of Glasnost, which we're in right now, was to be the greatest and grandest of all. The script for
Glass Nost No. 6 was written in 1981 by Yuri Andropov, who was the 15-year head of the KGB.
He was called in by the Politburo and they said, give us the biggest and best Glass Nost of
all, and he did. He came to power in 83, died in 84. His protege, Mikhail Gorbachev, who had come up
through the ranks of the KGB, came to power in 85. It fell to him to implant or install
Glass Nost No. 6.
It was to be the biggest of all.
Communism would be declared dead.
The Cold War would be declared over.
They would reduce the Iron Curtain to nothing.
Or so it would seem.
They would get rid of the Berlin Wall.
They would allow the reunification of Germany.
In reality, they would put second and third echelon communists in control in most of the Eastern European countries.
KGB appointed people in all of the republics, which is the case today, and they would continue to wield decisive influence but from behind the scenes while calling themselves non-communist.
Now, by the way, this script was written in 81.
Anatoly Golitsyn, who was a major in the KGB, defected, came to the States, wrote all about
this in a book called New Lies for Old, Anatoly Golitsyn, wrote it in 81, published it in
84. He would have sworn the guy was a prophet of God, because the things that he was predicting
in 81 were happening in 88, 89, 90, almost precisely. But he just was a KGB major and
read their mail. The flip side of this, what was America and the West supposed to give
back in return? We would begin to financially support Eastern Europe to the tune of $40-50
billion a year, which we're doing. We would begin to dismantle our European presence.
They had to neutralize NATO.
Had to neutralize NATO, which is their western flank.
And of course, with the signing of the INF Treaty by Ronald Reagan on December 8, 1988, we pulled our INF, we pulled our Persian cruise missiles out of Europe, we began, and have now completely pulled them out.
we have uh... begin to pour tanks close down our bases or troops out of further further
uh... part of the script would be that uh... we would massively financially
aid uh... russia in the soviet union
uh... we would massively disarm we we have in fact though don given i'm not
given what we have promised we promised a lot of aid but we haven't come through
with a lot of it yet have we uh... well
if you take collectively the aid from the west
not just america but you know england germany western europe
uh...
It's probably been in excess of $50 billion.
That's a lot of money.
It's still a fair amount of money.
But meanwhile, we're disarming.
We are closing down our defense industry, because after all, it's the new era of peace.
And after all, all we'll need is the United Nations Army, which can kind of police up the world.
We don't have any major threats anymore, we say.
and this is all part of the script of america with this arm or they would
continue to quietly rearm or mark and they continue to harm
uh... the part of the script was that america with discontinued support for
the anti-communist resistance movements around the world such as the margit dean such as uh...
uh... you need a an angle of the uh... such as such as the uh... contra's down in nicaragua
and elsewhere around the world and we did
part of the script was the american will pull out of the philippines and south
korea we did pull out of philippines with pulled out of civic
bank or field underbrush
uh... and we'll we'll get ready to pull out of korea and and and and and
over the koreans begin to rattle the flavor etcetera etcetera
Alright, then the picture you're drawing here is that communism didn't so much die as we simply came to terms with it.
No, we have been deceived to believe that they have... Lenin said we advance through retreat.
Yes, but you have described, in essence, an agreement.
I have no... No, we pull out here, we do this, we do that, we supply aid, all the rest of it, and that amounts to a sort of an agreement.
Well, yeah, I would say the leaders of the West have agreed to certain things because, allegedly, the Communists have died and gone away.
This is strategic deception.
Look, we need to understand that this is not the first time in history there's been strategic deception.
The greatest master of all who wrote about this in his book, The Art of War, was Sun Tzu.
He wrote about it in 500 B.C.
He said, we advance through retreat.
He said, when at our pinnacle of strength, feign weakness.
Well, then what is Yeltsin?
A useful idiot?
No.
Yeltsin is an actor.
Gorbachev was an actor.
Just as Bill Clinton and George Bush are actors, there are powerful people behind the Bushes and the Clintons and the Yeltsins and the Gorbachevs who are pulling the strings.
In Russia it would be people in the Politburo, the KGB and the Red Army itself, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
There are powerful people that run the show behind the scenes, particularly the Central Committee of the Communist Party in Russia.
They will bring in actors like Gorbachev, like Yeltsin.
It's like a giant soap opera.
The Russians are big on drama.
The Russians are big on chess.
They're the chess champions of the world.
They see this as one gigantic global chess game that takes place over a 20 or 30 year period.
They see it as one gigantic soap opera.
And if you can just imagine soap operas, they write people in the script, they write people out of the script.
Yeltsin was written into the script after Gorbachev had fulfilled his usefulness.
Gorbachev's purpose was to dismantle the old Soviet Union.
You know what they say in Russia, in England, when the king is dead, the king is dead, long live the king.
That's right.
What in the world do they mean?
They mean the new king.
That's right.
Now, the old Soviet Empire was intentionally dismantled.
It wasn't working, it was creaking, it was totally disorganized, so they wanted to reorganize and purge from top to bottom, and so the idea was Gorbachev's task was to come in and dismantle, it didn't fall apart spontaneously, dismantle the old Soviet Empire, but a new Russian Federation, Communist Federation, is being put together in its place, and it is being assembled as we speak.
And it'll become very obvious to people after one of the hardliners, probably Zhirinovsky, not necessarily, but I would say most likely Zhirinovsky, but when the hardliners come to power, people will begin to see the form and substance of this thing.
The new Russian Federation, remember long live the new king, the new Russian Federation will include Russia, it may include Afghanistan, it will probably include India, it will include the new axis that Russia is putting together right now in the Middle East, which will include Iraq, Iran, Syria, Ethiopia, Sudan, radical Sudan now is under radical Islamic government, Libya, Yemen, the Marxist-Leninist Republic of South Africa, South Africa was handed by the world powers, was handed over to the Communists on April 27th of this year, and maybe we can come back and talk about that, because that's probably the most critical loss to the West since the loss of China.
china will be part of the new federation vietnam
uh... south north korea and so forth we're talking about a federation of two and a half to three
billion people uh... but communist
communist that we have we need to understand communism is dead right but
it still controls a third of the world's population about a third of the
world's landmass and approximately sixty one countries
we're still under communism Let me ask you about something that's not apparently so well controlled.
This large Russian arsenal that you've been talking about.
We're hearing a lot of information about the Russian mafia and about the possibility of a few loose nuclear weapons making it to Iran.
Iran has been shopping about with large amounts of money trying to get hold of them.
What's going on?
Well, Russia is forming.
i would say that the red army still controls ninety percent plus and maybe
a bit it may be ninety five percent of the news for sure of the old nuclear weapons there's no doubt that some of
them have probably gotten out
but with respect to a ran a ran a trend run by radical
socialist islamic government and and uh...
they are moving into a very close alliance
Russia at this point as we speak.
Russia is helping them on a nuclear program, they're building pipelines and railroads between the two countries and so forth, and this has been going on for the last probably three or four years.
Likewise, Russia is trying to wheel together an axis that will include radical Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
Now you say, you'd never put Iraq and Iran together in an alliance.
That's exactly what you could do.
And, you know, believe it or not, after an eight-year war during the 80s between the two countries and how the bitter enemies that they are and so forth, yes, you could put together an alliance, and that's what Russia is doing.
Now, Russia is setting the stage for an eventual move into the Middle East and occupation of the Persian Gulf oil fields by the latter part of the 1990s.
And, once again, back away and look at the whole chessboard.
The whole chessboard includes now they're neutralizing Western Europe.
Through this whole Glasnost-Perestroika gambit, through moving US out of NATO, Germany is becoming neutral.
She's the anchor of NATO.
The western flank is being neutralized.
Russia is neutralizing her eastern flank with a non-aggression pact.
Long since negotiated with Red China.
Russia is now in alliance with Red China.
Everyone said way back in the Kissinger days, we'll play the China card, you know, our enemy's enemy is our friend, and therefore we'll get in bed with China and get between China and Russia.
Didn't work out quite that way, and indeed Russia and China are in bed, and Russia is selling massive amounts of arms to China right now, who will also be a major communist threat to us over the next few years.
But in essence, or in summary, they have neutralized their eastern and western flanks, and that will leave them.
Now understand, America will be largely disarmed.
We are being disarmed.
The Clintonistas are rapidly dismantling our military, but it didn't start in the Clintonistas.
It started under George Bush, and maybe even in the latter part of the Reagan administration.
So, project that trend, and it's no secret.
How much is the process accelerating with Clinton?
all incredibly incredibly it was a story incredibly george bush
we understand that there's not as much difference between a george bush and
bill clinton's people would suppose
they're both for socialists they both were liberals they both were members of
the trilateral commission the council on foreign relations to
build a burgers mcglover from
they're both globalist korbachoff and yeltsin and whoever follows would take
orders from people that are far above them
uh... and uh... and so this thing really begin to accelerate under george bush
who who who believe the course in this new world order which he talked
about hundreds of times yes i couldn't is simply continuing it
the clinton's a radical socialist and everyone who's short sold bill clinton short while
everybody looks at whitewater in the ben sposter murder
And I believe it was a murder.
And, you know, all the shenanigans and all the things.
And they always count Bill Clinton out.
And, you know, Bill Clinton is down for the count.
And then, miraculously, Bill Clinton comes jumping back up and, you know, and scores another victory.
Most recently with the crime bill, which I want to talk to you about.
Sure, I'd love to talk about that, too.
But, you know, Bill Clinton is like... You can kill Bill Clinton off the Empire State Building and he will land lightly on his feet like a cat.
The guy is like he has not 9 lives, but 9,000 lives, and he just keeps on coming back.
Or if he broke a bone, he'd be in a cast and out of it healed miraculously the next day.
Indeed, indeed.
People tell in short, by the way, I'll make a prediction which will make me sound like I'm a total fool.
I think there's a better chance than 50-50 chance that he will be re-elected in 96.
And most people would say, no, no, you don't understand Whitewater.
You don't understand the investigation.
No, I agree with you.
But let me tell you something.
Don't ever underestimate Bill Clinton.
They've been telling us he was down and out ever since the primaries in 1992.
And this guy, he is a real rebounder.
But in answer to your question, it's accelerating dramatically under Bill Clinton.
They are rapidly dismantling our defense industry.
They are closing down our production lines all over the country.
We are closing down our military bases.
We are closing down bases all over the world.
And so we are rapidly downsizing the U.S.
military and that's part of it.
The downsizing of the military, the closing of our defense industry, but then even equally ominous We're moving what's going to be left of the military under the command of the United Nations.
Right.
That's going very, very rapidly, and of course, it dominates the United Nations.
Russia does.
Don, hold that thought.
We've got a break at the bottom of the hour.
Take a deep breath.
We'll be back, and I'll ask you a little more about the downsizing.
I've got a couple of questions.
Sure.
Don McIlvenny is my guest, and he, of course, has been publishing for many years, the McIlvenny Intelligence Advisor.
Back with Don McIlwainy and more on the state of the world, I guess.
And we'll get to the state of this country, our economy, the crime bill, and more.
coming up next on the cbc radio network from the kingdom of nine this is coast to coast am with art
bell on the cbc radio network Now, once again, here's Art.
Once again, here I am, and I want to tell you, everybody, back to Don McElvenny in just a moment, but I want to mention to you, I have a news I'm going to break on the O.J.
Simpson case.
I got a letter from a Los Angeles Police Department detective working on the O.J.
Simpson case, and, uh, He has leaked to me, and I'm going to read you that letter.
We'll get to it later in open line talk.
Back now to Don McIlvenny.
Hi, Don.
How you doing, Art?
Okay.
We were talking about the downsizing that's going on, and that's a polite word that might not do justice to the amount of it that's going on.
Right now, with Haiti and Cuba, We've got 50 ships and 10,000 GIs absorbed.
They tell me we are strained to the limit right now regarding what we've got sea power in the Caribbean.
So I guess that goes toward backing up what you're saying about how far we're downsizing.
Yeah, just imagine if we suddenly were faced with a major build-up in Korea, which is a very real possibility still, and just imagine if we got sucked in a major way into either the Middle East or Bosnia or whatever, we would be strained very thin and deep.
Our military is far smaller today than it was when we assembled Operation Desert Storm just about three years ago, so they rapidly are disarming.
I think it's interesting to note little wars like Desert Storm.
Like Panama, like Grenada, and now certainly Haiti.
Why in the world would America want to go into Haiti?
I mean, what in the world are we doing?
Is there a more incredibly stupid thing in the world than us going in?
We're trying to put Aristide back in.
He's a dictator.
He's a Marxist-Leninist.
He was a great supporter of Che Guevara.
He's a supporter of Fidel Castro.
Why would we send our troops in?
To overthrow one military dictatorship.
To put in a communist dictatorship into that country, what in the world are we trying to do?
When you read George Orwell's 1984, which is certainly being imposed on America today, a very comparable type situation, the big brother constantly had to have his little regional wars that he would send the people out and he would entertain the people with and keep them busy.
It was kind of like having a Super Bowl game three times a year.
You have a regional war.
And I'm reminded of that.
I mean, it is bizarre.
Well, isn't the measure, Don, of anything we do like this, where is our national security interest?
They had the weakest case I ever heard, when they were strangling Haiti economically, producing refugees, and it was weakly suggested that our national security interest was to stop the refugees.
Now we're going to go in anyway, and we don't even have the refugee problem anymore.
It is beyond bizarre that we're doing this, and I think, you know, it's partly to occupy the military.
You've got to give the military what's left of the military an excuse to exist.
It's partly to show the strength of the New World Order, because before it's all over, this will be a United Nations operation, and you've got to have these little periodic United Nations wars to build up the credibility of the UN and its so-called New World Army.
I think there are probably some hidden things that we don't see, but the point is, do you, do our listeners, do you or do I want to have our sons and daughters give their blood and spill their blood on the shores of Haiti to install a Marxist dictatorship in a country that we have no business, we have no national security interest there, it is a downtrodden, probably the poorest country in the world with AIDS and everything else.
What in the world are we invading Haiti for?
I don't know, and Don, I've thought about this.
If I were Cedrus, and I looked at Clinton, and I looked at what Clinton's done so far, and I looked at Somalia and how he behaved when he got hurt in Somalia, I would dispense a bunch of people with automatic weapons throughout Port-au-Prince and up into the hills, and I would start a war of attrition and terrorism against USGIs once they hit the island.
And I think that's exactly what he will do?
And I think it's going to be like Somalia, where we find out there's a lot more resistance than we think, and they're going to start drawing our blood, and then eventually we'll move the United Nations in to try to operate the island and the country and so forth.
It's bizarre, but you can't separate these things from the whole concept of the New World Order.
An awful lot of things that you see them doing that don't seem to make sense.
Makes sense if you put them within the context of the New World Order, the build-up of the United Nations, the move of the U.S.
military into the United Nations, and this whole strategy for world government over the next five, six, seven years that the establishment folks in America and Europe and elsewhere are pushing.
A lot of things that we look at and say, this just makes absolutely no sense.
What in the world are these guys?
You know, the gods will destroy the first to make bad.
I mean, my gosh, these guys are crazy.
No, they're not crazy.
There is a plan, there is a strategy behind an awful lot of these things.
And that's where you come to the New World Order and what they're doing to try to put it together.
Well, one view of the U.N.
is that they have been very, very ineffectual in almost everything they've tried to do.
We've had the only muscle that's added to what they've done.
That's the only time they've had any sort of success at all, but left to their own devices.
The U.N.
has failed.
I could start ticking it off on my hand time after time after time.
So it's kind of a weak Yes and no.
I think what you have said is essentially true from about 1945 until maybe three or four years ago.
The genesis of the U.N.
It was basically put together by leftist globalists.
Alger Hiss was our representative.
He turned out to be a Soviet spy.
He was the Undersecretary of State.
So was Harry Dexter White, Undersecretary of Treasury.
They put together this thing out in 1945 in San Francisco.
Hiss was the Undersecretary General for the Formation Committee.
He sets up 66 agencies to ask them with 500 of his own handpicked people.
We find out a few years later he's been a Soviet spy the entire time.
The United Nations was geared to be a vehicle for world government.
They set up a side agreement that every commander of every military operation, the UN, would
would always be a Russian general officer.
That's why the North Koreans always knew what MacArthur was going to do in Korea before our troops did, because it was being fed back through Russia.
And so this thing has stirred the pot, and it's been kind of a Trojan horse, but as you say, a very ineffectual Trojan horse on the East River.
Yeah, look at Somalia.
I mean, the UN finally got themselves in big trouble in Somalia.
They were doing the whole wrong approach, the way they were trying to get things done.
Finally, we had a big incident.
Clinton had to back away, and even appeared for a time to be angry at what the UN was doing, and sort of threatened to do everything unilaterally.
Well, I agree with all of the above.
I mean, you and I are in 100% agreement on that, except for one thing.
It's now changing.
It's like you and I got together, Art, and some years ago we made the most incredible creation in the world.
We called it the Frankenstein Monster, and it's about seven and a half feet tall and it's green.
Some people would call it ugly, but you and I look at it and we have this pride of ownership and authorship.
and so forth and we look but you know it just doesn't want to get up and we keep plugging it in and we just don't give it enough juice but we go back to the drawing boards and so forth and one day we finally get it right and we plug it in and all of a sudden we energize this big ugly green monster and he gets up and he steps on our foot and walks out the door now this is kind of the United Nations the last three or four or five years something has been changing and as they have accelerated this move towards the new world order They are energizing the United Nations, and the United Nations is not going to be, in fact, I think right now, is being injected with money, with prestige, etc., etc., that is not known before.
I was in, but I agree with you up until about the last couple of years.
What I'm saying is there's a change that's taking place in the UN right now, and that the globalists who believe that the UN, and it's what they call the New World Army, which is the United Nations Army, U.N.
and U.S.
troops are being moved into it.
Russian troops will be a part of it.
Et cetera, et cetera.
They're doing some new things right now, which is moving the U.N.
back to center stage.
I talk about this in my newest newsletter, by the way, which maybe sometime we could tell people how to get a copy of.
It's called America at the Crossroads, Freedom or Slavery.
Go ahead and tell them right now.
Okay, well, for one thing, I write the newsletter in the McIlwain Intelligence Advisor Monthly.
It covers monetary, economic, geopolitical developments, and it's written from a traditionalist, conservative, constitutionalist frame of reference, and it's pretty hardcore.
The newest newsletter is 28 pages, so I think I probably also have some kind of record for every month.
I probably write the longest newsletter in the country.
The new one, America at the Crossroads, Freedom or Slavery, it talks a lot about the re-energizing of the New World Order, the United Nations, Moving U.S.
military under the U.N.
command, U.N.
world population control and what they're doing in that area, how the U.N.
troops are now beginning to show up around the United States, their combat vehicles and so forth around the United States.
It's got a long section on the new national ID card.
And what they're doing to install that, and that could be a fait accompli within 12 to 18 months.
And then it goes into the Crime Control Bill, the EEOC Guidelines, which says you can't mention God in the workplace, the United Nations Convention on the Childhood.
It covers a lot of different things, but throughout this letter, as I did the research for it, I realized, my gosh, they are re-energizing the old dead Frankenstein monster.
They're finally getting it up and on its feet.
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Alright, good.
Also, I'm duty-bound to mention that you're going to be at the Expo up in Seattle.
Are you not?
Yeah, let me tell you about these Expos.
These Expos are really pretty cool.
A guy named Dan Chodak out of Utah runs these things.
We do about four of them a year.
We get some very hardcore There are a lot of conservative, traditionalist,
constitutionalist type speakers at these conferences and then there is a giant exposition where you have a lot
of different companies come in.
There are usually 150 to 200 companies that have different products on display that have
to do with self-sufficiency, with preparedness.
It could be earthquakes, it could be storms, fires, floods, a red dawn scenario, you name
Survivalist sort of stuff?
Yeah, I would say an awful lot of them are survivalist type people.
A guy named Ed McCabe will be speaking on AIDS and ozone therapy and alternate medicine.
Nancy Lord is an attorney who just won some really good cases against the FDA.
Larry Pratt, who is, in my opinion, one of the great American heroes.
He's the head of Gun Owners of America, who almost single-handedly stopped the Crime Control Bill while the NRA laid down, rolled over, played dead, and didn't even have any kind of grassroots lobbying.
gun owners of america 125,000 members launched hundreds of thousands of phone calls faxes
and so forth against the house and senate stopped it in the house and then they came
back and still defeated it.
Larry Pratt, the pit bulldog of the pro-gun movement will be a speaker.
Jack McLam, a highly decorated police officer from Arizona will be one of the speakers.
Jack has a newsletter called A's and a Bet and Jack is trying to wake up police officers
all over the country as to how they are being pulled in under the new world order and under
Clinton's national police force and are to be used by the federal government.
So he'll be speaking, I'll be speaking about A to Z, I'll be speaking about the coming
depression, what you do to get out of harm's way that way, the new world order, the Russians
and so forth.
There's a bunch of good speakers.
They're really good meetings, but they're for constitutionalist, traditionalist patriotic type people who are thinkers who are really
concerned about the country
lot a lot a lot of people in this audience uh... of very much like that
uh... look it's going to be the preparedness expo ninety four september
nine ten eleven at the seattle center correct i get started i think noon on friday that next friday
I don't think so.
to about 8 o'clock on Sunday night.
The price is right.
You can come to the meeting for a few bucks and you can come hear me speak for like $5,
which is fairly inexpensive.
Boy, it really is.
It will give you more information than going to a movie.
So the price is right.
It is in Seattle and they do have people come from all over the country.
They will have people come in from Florida, from New York, from everywhere in the country
for this.
It is a pretty cheap weekend of entertainment.
It will be a massive mind expander.
I have to listen to one of your programs, only more so because it goes on for two and
a half days.
So if you can come and join us, I would really encourage you to do so.
You'll get a lot of information, get a lot of product information as to things you can do.
i always go back with you know with trunks full of stuff from this place
because you know there's just a lot of good preparedness type stuff there
alright uh... quickly to the crime bill if we can uh...
i i want to be my take on it uh... but Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, a failure of leadership there, six defectors from the Republican Party, other people, Don, in arguing, in framing the argument against the crime bill, I think almost themselves have committed a crime.
Instead of framing it as a Second Amendment issue, Instead of framing it as a challenge to one of our basic rights in the Bill of Rights, they framed it, Rush Limbaugh did the same thing, as a question of pork.
You know, too much pork.
Everybody was afraid to even open their mouth.
Gingrich in interviews wouldn't even open his mouth about the assault rifle ban.
Adol didn't talk about it.
Limbaugh didn't talk about it.
Nobody talked about it.
They framed the issue as one of pork.
So, when the thing went back for reconsideration, they cut out a few billion dollars of pork, all of a sudden, the votes that were restrained because of that argument were suddenly released, and now we've got the damn crime bill.
They framed the issue the wrong way, in my opinion, Doc.
100% agreement with you.
100% you've very accurately assessed it.
It's interesting to me that Rush Limbaugh, you mentioned Limbaugh, Limbaugh comes down on the wrong side of a lot of key issues, whether it's NAFTA, whether it's something like this.
I wonder if it's because the establishment put the guy in business in the first place.
I probably shouldn't even say that, but if you go back and look at the people who financed him and put him in business, Phil Donahue is not considered to be exactly a conservative.
Anyway, that's another story.
Everybody missed the point, and they intentionally framed it that way.
Look, this is not a crime control bill.
This is a people control bill.
This is a bill to set up a police state.
This is a bill that, by the way, 95% of the people who voted for the bill never read it.
They did not read it.
In fact, it's Bill Richardson, the founder of Gun Owners of America, and the very well-known conservative state senator down in California, who said, What makes you think they read the bills?
They don't read most of these bills.
95% of the people who vote for the health care bill will not have read it.
Okay, and that was true of the crime bill.
And indeed, I think one of the reasons that Clinton hasn't signed it yet is because they're adding lots and lots of new stuff to it.
And even after they pass a bill, they could add new stuff to it.
If you haven't read it, you don't know what they throw in.
That's what I've been hearing.
They're still writing it.
Oh, they're still writing this bill.
And this is a bill that's a formula for a police state.
This is what I have been writing in my newsletter for over the last couple of years now.
We are plunging towards a socialist police state in America, and this bill is a quantum jump in that direction.
I believe, Art, that they wanted this bill more than they wanted health care.
And of course, health care gives them a 19% quantum jump control over 19% of the U.S.
economy.
And that's very important to them as far as socializing America.
But the crime control bill, here's a few of the things it does.
It basically will make a major move to move local law enforcement under federal control.
Okay, very, very important.
It will make a major move toward setting up the National Police Force, which Bill Clinton and Al Gore promised in their campaign book and so forth on page 72.
I think it was called Up With People or something.
And they're putting together a National Police Force.
This will be a quantum jump in that direction.
37,000 new social workers will be put on the street.
They can come into your home.
No warrant is necessary.
They can search your home if they find anything that they say you are helping to contribute
to the delinquency of your child.
Maybe it's a homeschooling home and they don't like the fact that you're teaching something
against the New World Order, the UN.
They can seize your home.
They can seize your children, etc., etc.
We talked about the pork and the midnight basketball and all the ridiculous stuff.
My answer to that was, forget it.
I mean, they're throwing away our money every day.
So what's new?
As far as the gun control, yes, they banned 180 different firearms.
It was not 19.
It was 180 different firearms are to be banned.
And even though it sounds like, at this point, that they will grandfather in people who now own those particular semi-automatic weapons.
you see begun control of the political left knows before they can establish the
new world order before they can move us into a socialist police state all
on dot in germany all russia
under one and on all the time under under my old you know cuban or under under a cash up
we got a disarm the american people and so this is just a great you know brady
brady one was the first step brady to is now being introduced uh... by by kennedy as we
speak i mean it's in the opera now
uh... and uh... in this with us for this was another major step
Now, the problem is whether they will grandfather in the people so it's legal to keep owning these 180 different semi-automatics.
Let me inject this thought.
The political left are smart.
They know how to hang scary labels on things to scare people.
When they wanted to get small pistols that people in the inner city used to defend themselves from marauders, They call them Saturday Night Specials.
We're all scared of Saturday Night Specials.
It was the total propaganda ploy.
Then they came along with semi-automatic weapons.
And they call them assault weapons.
Anybody who's been in the military knows the assault weapon is a fully automatic M16, a fully automatic weapon.
Of course.
Of course.
And now the next gimmick is going to be, believe it or not, they're already talking, Art, about calling bolt-action rifles... Sniper rifles.
Sniper rifles.
What do you need... Is that bill right?
You know, there's a bill out there floating around, or a proposed bill, with regard to sniper rifles.
I heard that it was a hoax.
Is it?
I don't know if it's a hoax or not.
No, I don't think so.
I think whether there's actually been a piece of legislation introduced or not, I can tell you that the political left is planning to push that concept.
I don't know if it's written in.
I have not seen the new bill.
Brady 2 has already been written, and it's been introduced, and I don't have the House numbers in front of me.
All right, listen, Don.
We're at the top of the hour, and you can't go away.
Yeah, I'll hang around.
Yeah, good.
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Don, are you there?
I'm here, Art.
Good.
Good.
So much to talk about, so little time.
Where is the gun control thing going from here?
You mentioned Brady II.
Is the ultimate objective, Don, To get all the guns?
Yeah, that's definitely the ultimate objective.
It's not registration, it's confiscation.
You have to disarm the American people before you can establish a total socialist police state, before you can establish the New World Order.
So, Brady 1 was the stepping stone.
The Crime Control Bill, which outlaws 180 different, or bans 180 different semi-automatics, is a stepping stone.
Brady 2 has already been introduced.
Brady 2 will include uh... a uh... requirements for licensing all gun owners across the country uh... if if you have uh... as much i think it's twenty guns or uh... in a lot of black collectors do mark arsenal they call it an arsenal don't an arsenal more or if you have a thousand rounds of ammunition and that may turn on initiated non-government i mean that's on what that may sound like a lot of realms but and that's too tiny little bricks of twenty two rifle long-rifle ammunition that's uh... i could think that's probably
Based on where you buy it, and I've gotten some of those at Sam's Club.
I can probably get those for $20 to $25, a thousand rounds.
That constitutes an arsenal.
They say you have to register $300, I think, licensing fee will last you for three years, and the ATF, those are the good folks that shut up Waco, Texas.
They began it, and the FBI finished it.
The ATF would then have the right to come into your home with a warrantless search three times a year and search your home to make sure that you, in fact, are maintaining your arsenal correctly.
There's a lot more in the... All right, Don.
Let me stop you and tell you, I've got a lot of people in the audience who, for whatever reason, have been saying they feel something big is coming.
Something's pending.
Something's going to happen.
They don't have much of a sense of what it is, but something's coming.
Now, put that together.
With a lot of what I'm hearing underground, Don, I guess you know about the Linda Thompson business, don't you?
What she said she was going to do September 19th and all the rest of it.
That's a big mistake.
I hope nobody goes back to Washington with arms.
I agree with you, Don, but what's happening around the country?
Here's what I want to finish up with.
A lot of people are starting to talk about militias.
A lot of people are beginning to talk about action and things that I would think would interest the ATF greatly.
As they move one way, a lot of Americans are moving the other way, and there's going to be a clash.
Yeah, we're moving towards a major confrontation, Art.
There are a lot of people across the country that I think for good reason are getting very angry as they see the Constitution just torn up and thrown away.
As they see seizures and forfeitures, last year the government seized property and assets from 250,000 Americans, that's 5,000 a week, over a billion dollars worth of houses, cars, businesses, real estate, bank accounts, you name it.
As they see the Randy Weaver, Waco, Donald Scott type things where the government just runs roughshod over people and if you raise a finger in objection they can shoot you or burn you or gash you or whatever.
There's a lot of anger that is growing across the land.
I am sensing it as well.
Of course the government knows it as well, and I think this is why they are moving so rapidly to implement the Crime Control Bill, and I do believe that Bill Clinton hasn't signed it because he's adding a lot of other measures to it, and those will go through when the final copy comes out.
uh... they're moving rapidly the the black helicopters that are seen all over
the country now i'm sure you probably have programs in that talk
talked about the uh... many many many the federal detention centers which are
now popping up and i'm getting pictures of these uh... the sightings of uh...
uh... foreign military uh... equipment whole train loads of it so that russian
east german you know and Yeah, I've got the pictures.
You and I get probably a lot of the same pictures.
The fact that Russian troops are now to be brought onto U.S.
soil to be trained, it's actually been going on for a couple of years, but they've now publicly acknowledged that they're doing the same.
UN troops being trained in this country.
I think we are moving towards some sort of a crisis.
In my new newsletter that we mentioned in the last hour, America at the Crossroads, Freedom or Slavery, we talk about the fact that what they can't get done through the Congress, and you can get some things through the Congress.
I do believe it's the greatest group of idiots ever assembled under one roof in the history of the world.
So you get a lot of stuff through these idiots.
By the way, the Republicans are no better than the Democrats.
Everything Clinton gets, he ultimately gets with the help of the Republicans.
It's the truth.
But what he can't get through the Congress, they'll just do with executive orders.
And they may use executive orders to put the national ID card through, but if you examine the executive orders that have been floated over the last few years, you realize that the dictatorship is there, they have given Ironclad control over every aspect of the economy with the stroke of a pen.
I believe that some excuse for a state of national emergency could be launched in the next, I don't know, maybe this fall, sometime in the next 3, 6, 9, 12 months.
It could be rioting.
Let's just take an example.
The LA riots were classy.
L.A.
riots were not spontaneous.
There were circulars circulated two weeks in advance before anybody knew whether the police in the Rodney King case were going to be acquitted or found guilty.
They were already preparing for the riots.
Either way, they were going to have the riots.
I think those riots were a test case.
I strongly suspect that the government and the establishment were very much involved in those to test martial law, see how the people would react when the federal troops were called in, etc.
Imagine that they rioted that way in the Rodney King case.
What happens if, in the O.J.
Simpson case, for example... I was just going to ask you about that.
What happens if he's found guilty?
And I don't want to comment on the details of the case.
There's overkill, and you probably know more about that than I do, but let's say that he's found guilty and given life in prison, or the death penalty, and you've got people stirring the blacks in various neighborhoods across the country.
That this is just a racist thing the whites have gotten, and let me tell you something, there's about 55%, 56% of the blacks believe that, according to some polls.
Well, it could be riots from the O.J.
Simpson case, it could be something that stirred up, it could be a financial crisis, but some excuse is used to trigger a state of national emergency.
We go to martial law, suddenly you begin to realize why these black helicopters in these detention centers And these foreign troops and U.N.
vehicles and Russian vehicles and so forth were here, and we suddenly find ourselves in the state of national emergency.
Now, we all know 2,500 ATF agents can't disarm 75 million Americans with 200 million firearms.
Give me a break.
I mean, that'll never happen.
They can harass dealers.
They can go out and shoot men, women, and children in Waco or do Randy Weaver type operations, but they can't go out and disarm the American people in mass.
The National Guard really, even though they've been training for house-to-house searches for firearms, they can't really do it because they can't be counted on to come against the American people.
Local law enforcement can't, although they're moving rapidly to take that over.
Don, they're like the IRS.
They operate on the principle of intimidation.
You bust a few high-profile people and you come down real hard and throw the book at them.
And you intimidate everybody else into a role of obedience.
Yeah, I understand that.
I understand how that works.
But I don't think it's going to work.
I think that you've got to... You know, guns are a funny thing.
I mean, I pay my taxes.
I pay way too many taxes.
And that's not been my choke point.
That's the choke point with a lot of tax resistors out there and so forth.
But let me tell you something.
Mess with my kids.
Mess with my guns, and all of a sudden you've got a very angry young man.
That's right.
That's how people feel across the country.
Don, we've got a lot of emotional about both those things, and these idiots are messing with both.
And I think that they are.
There is an anger growing across the land.
There is an incipient resistance to this that is growing.
There are the militias that are popping up around the country, and the Constitution says they're constitutional.
A friend of mine who's got a talk show down in Florida says that there's 50,000 people in the militias in Florida.
I've not confirmed that number, but the government knows that there is this growing resistance and anger to what they're trying to do, and so people are waking up across the hinterland.
Let me tell you, there is some good news out there.
Let's talk about the good news for just a minute.
When Hitler installed his dictatorship, And Lenin in Russia, Mao in China, Castro in Cuba, and so forth.
They have a lot going for them.
But one of the things that they didn't have going against them was, they didn't have radio talk shows like yours.
I have major problems with Russell Imbaugh, but some of what he says is good.
But there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of radio talk shows around the country.
They're reaching tens of millions of Americans.
Every single day, and they're telling them what they don't want to know.
There are major holes that have been punched in their information monopoly, and it's really hurting them bad.
That's why they pushed the Fairness Doctrine last year, and they'll keep trying to push it to try to put guys like you off the radio.
That's a problem they've got.
They've got newsletters out there, which are like the letters of correspondence before the American Revolution.
There's hundreds of those, and then there's tens of thousands of private newsletters that are people that are free that people are sending around the country.
So, whether it's a national newsletter like mine or private ones, those are punching major holes in their information monopoly.
Then they've got the fax machine, and high-tech is certainly a weapon the establishment will use to enslave us, but it's a double-edged sword.
You bet.
When they do some kind of mendacity, these guys don't function well except in the dark, okay?
They do their dastardly deeds in the darkness, And suddenly they try to do something, and people with fax machines back in Washington fax it out, and it goes out to a few hundred, a few thousand, ten thousand, a hundred thousand, fifty thousand, and before you know it, and then there's like, you know, when they drop the nuclear bomb, and there's this gigantic rush of wind in one direction, and the wind goes back in the other direction, and all of a sudden you've got hundreds of thousands of faxes going back to Washington, and so they cannot do what they've done in the darkness
We've got this information now, and then think about computers, which are even faster than faxes and so forth.
I don't like the word conservative anymore.
I'm not a conservative.
I'm a believer in traditional values.
I believe in biblical values.
I believe in family values.
I believe in the Constitution.
I believe in those values which made America great, and there are millions and millions of Americans out there that do.
And they're getting informed by all of these things, from your talk show, to my newsletter, to the faxes, to the computer networks and so forth.
And this is one of the reasons I think that the Clintonistas and their establishment bosses are panicked and are moving so fast.
They know that the sleeping giant is beginning to wake up.
They are beginning to panic, and so they're beginning to move faster and faster.
And boy, you said it right.
There is a collision coming.
Yes, sir, there is.
Is it time... Speak to the individual for a second, Don.
Is it time to take, to use George Bush's word, prudent steps?
Is it time to get out the cosmoline, bury your weapons?
What's it time for?
I suspect that there is a tremendous run on PVC pipe and shovels going on in this country.
I would bet you that there's a lot more of that going on than you would ever guess.
I think that there's a lot of steps that people are taking and should be taking towards greater self-sufficiency.
Like what?
Let me say this.
I changed my mind.
I'm not going to send them one newsletter.
If they call in the 800 number, I'm going to send them two.
It's another one that's very important, very important, and I don't know if you've seen it, Art, but I did it in July.
It's called Escaping the Socialist Juggernaut of America Towards Greater Self-Sufficiency.
I go into a lot of details about urban self-sufficiency.
If you've got to live in the city, what you do, number one, if you can live in a country, if you can live in a small rural town, you're going to be much better off in the coming convulsions.
If you think about the Russian Revolution, the people who lived way out in the hinterland and the countryside were the ones who were going to had a much better chance of surviving
uh... so i talk about country living versus urban self-sufficiency and and
there's some things you can do if you live in the city homeschooling
uh... that they they're they're trying to store kids mind for the public schools
are trying to mold them for the new world order homeschooling is is is a
great new movement got a million kids that a punch stuff a major loophole in the educational
monopoly that the political leftist had part of the other to stop it
they're going to try to do that they they tried to hr six this past spring
right and all the schoolers who are not as well organized as the gun people
And this is why I have great disdain for the leadership of the National Rifle Association.
They totally sold us out.
They sold us out.
All they had to do was launch with their three million members the same kind of grassroots campaign.
To stop the gun control that the homeschoolers did last spring, and that Larry Pratt did with Gun Owners of America, and they could have totally killed off the gun control thing.
They didn't do that.
Last spring, the homeschoolers, who were totally disorganized, heard that as part of H.R.
6, the government was trying to shut down homeschooling in all private Christian schools in America, and they really did try it.
And a million irate communiquees, faxes, phone calls poured into Washington, and they backed up very quickly.
They're going to try the same thing for the U.N.
Convention on the Child.
And I have a major section in this August newsletter that I said I would send out, one of the two newsletters I'll send for people who call, dealing with the U.N.
Convention on the Child.
It's a total takeover of the family.
It's a total takeover.
The government and the United Nations will tell you what you can and can't do.
You're a criminal if you spank your kids.
You're a criminal if you tell your kids they can't listen to hard rock music, if they can't watch pornography, if they can't run with a gang.
I mean, it's absolutely incredible.
And as part of the U.N.
Convention on the Child, I think they're going to make a major stab at homeschooling.
I list, I summarize the major conventions.
In fact, Article 28 says, Compulsory education, all nations are challenged to unite in the
creation of an internationalist approach to education.
This is a UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.
All school-age Americans will be encouraged to be part of the school system.
The content of what must be taught to all children is prescribed.
It's been described under the treaty.
By the way, 150 nations have ratified this treaty.
50 of our illustrious senators have already signed on as co-sponsors for the treaty.
Incredible.
It goes on in this one article.
These include anti-American, one-worldism, anti-family, anti-traditional values, multiculturalism, and environmentalism.
uh... and if this is past the homeschool movement will be attacked and it could
be a uh... a terminated with extreme prejudice line gotta control the minds
to control the country if you would go give me a quick primer for the
individual who wants to be ready what should they do
let me get i i i i think there's about seven or eight major areas of self-sufficiency
Let me try to blitz them real quickly.
First, let's take financial self-sufficiency.
We are moving towards a depression.
A million Americans a year are already going bankrupt.
About 100,000 corporations a year.
The $15.8 trillion debt pyramid that was only $3 trillion when Ronald Reagan came to office 14 years ago or 15 years ago has more than quintupled.
It's coming unglued.
Get out of debt.
Get liquid as rapidly as you can.
You want to reduce your debt to zero if you can.
You want to be liquid.
Set up a savings program.
Make yourself save at least 10% per month.
Avoid the stock market like it was AIDS because it's the most overpriced stock market in U.S.
history.
It's a ticking time bomb.
I think it could collapse this fall.
I agree.
Avoid the bond market.
You want to have probably no more than 25% of your assets in real estate.
There is a service which we use where you can get a good reading on your bank, S&L, or insurance company.
They'll give you an ABCDEF rating, and I think it's for $15.
And if you come back C-DEF, you need to get out of that bank, S&L, or insurance company to a stronger institution.
You can call the same 800 number to get the newsletters out, and you can get that.
What about hard currency, gold?
Okay, you want to have, I would say, upwards to 25-30% of your assets in precious metals.
I'd probably have two-thirds of that in gold, one-third in silver.
The gold I would put in $20 Double Eagles, St. Gaudens, or Liberties.
I have strong reasons for that.
Anything over a 15% premium gold coin is considered to be a collectible, same with silver.
Not subject to confiscation.
Less likely to be confiscated, more likely to remain legally tradable when you liquidate it.
There's no reporting requirements, and when gold goes up, those coins tend to go up faster because they're a little scarcer.
I think you want to have upwards to 30% of your assets in precious metals, and you ought to be acquiring them right now.
I think you ought to have a cottage business.
Find a second source of income.
I wrote about this in my September 93 newsletter, which dealt completely with self-sufficiency.
I listed about ten different books on how to set up a cottage business, different kinds of home-based businesses you could get.
That's very important.
I think you ought to have a year's supply of survival food, dehydrated food tucked away, and my company offers that.
I couldn't find anybody else who wanted to sell it, and everybody thinks I'm crazy, so I said, fine, we'll help people to get that as well as the metals.
I think you want to develop alternate sources of information.
Programs like yours, newsletters like mine.
Look, there's a lot of good, hard-money, conservative, patriotic newsletters out there.
You ought to take three or four or five, not just mine.
There's some other good ones out there.
Ron Paul's got a great one, and Mark Nesman's got one called Low Profile.
There's some really good newsletters out there.
Okay, those are some financial self-sufficiency ideas.
Basically, be liquid.
Avoid long government bonds, corporate bonds, municipal bonds.
Avoid the stock market.
Avoid equity mutual funds.
Exception may be gold stocks or gold stock mutual funds.
They did great last year.
They were up about 100%.
Not much this year.
I think they'll be okay the next couple of years.
Alternative energy, I suppose.
All the rest of it, whatever you can do to become independent.
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Hi, Don.
Let's finish up on self-sufficiency or getting ready for whatever's coming down.
Okay.
One of the areas of self-sufficiency that ties in with what you were saying about Bob Crane and the facts is communication self-sufficiency.
I think everyone ought to have some kind of a shortwave radio receiver.
If we have a state of national emergency, God forbid if we ever had a Red Dawn scenario, which I think is not as far-fetched as some people think.
You need to have a way of knowing what's going on in the world, and traditional communications could be shut down.
They could be shut down by the government or in other ways.
Bob Crane has a great company, C. Crane Company.
You gave their number, and I've already gotten a number of things.
I wrote about him and a lot of the different shortwave type receivers he's got in my July newsletter, which I'm going to send out to the people who call in.
You need to get some world band type receiver radios.
These are not expensive.
You can get them for a few hundred bucks.
I'm frankly going to get my ham radio license and get the ability to communicate two-way around the world, and I'm working on that one right now.
Good for you, Don.
I'm a ham, have been all my life.
I'm sitting in a room right now with a studio on one side, my full ham set on the other side, and the third side is a 486 computer printer, the whole ball of wax, and I'm up to my neck in all of this kind of communication.
And it's going to be essential for people as the world destabilizes.
By the way, the things we're talking about here tonight are not just in America, they're all over the world.
This is global.
World War II was regional with the Nazis and the Japanese and so forth.
This is a global type thing.
We're going to need to be able to talk to people who are lovers of freedom, who are resisting this global dictatorship called the New World Order.
We're going to need to be able to talk to them all over the world.
I need to be able to talk to people five miles away, but I need to be able to talk to you, you know, 1,500 miles away, or to people halfway around the world in South Africa or Germany or friends of mine.
NATO and so forth, and so you need to have the equipment and the know-how to do so.
So, I think communication, self-sufficiency, very, very important.
Medical self-sufficiency.
Look, the medical system right now can't cure cancer, it can't cure AIDS, it can't cure the flesh-eating disease, and it can't cure a lot of these viruses that I believe, and I believe I can back it up, are coming out of various government laboratories.
I think a lot of these viruses are designer viruses, and they're coming fast and curious, but just take the
traditional degenerative diseases and traditional medicine just runs into a brick wall.
We know that alternate medicine has got a lot of things from ozone therapy to chelation
therapy to enzymatic therapy, you name it.
And so I think you need to learn medical self-sufficiency.
Now, all of this was before Hillary takes over and, quote-unquote, bastardizes the whole medical system.
So once she's socialized it, she and her comrades, in quotation marks, it's going to get real nasty.
My wife and daughter are taking an herbal medicine correspondence course, a guy named David Christopher out in Utah.
He'll be at the Survival Preparedness Conference.
He offers his correspondence course as part of our homeschooling curriculum, but you need to become medically self-sufficient.
Food self-sufficiency.
You want to be able to... I think you ought to have at least a year's supply of dehydrated food.
You ought to be able to grow some food.
Learn something about organic gardening.
Easier if you live in the country.
Not impossible in the city, just a lot harder.
If you could get out of... Now I'm speaking to a lot of people in a lot of cities, Don.
If you were in the city and you could get out, I take it you would?
Yeah, I certainly would.
Let me tell you what I did a few years ago.
I had my precious metals company and my publishing company in Denver.
I really began to get nervous.
I mean, the crime, the gang warfare, it was getting bad.
And as you know, 90% of Americans live in major cities.
And that's where the New World Order is going to try to control them.
It's going to be easier to bottle up and control people in the cities, much harder in the countryside.
So I bit the bullet and I moved about 50 miles out of Denver.
I moved out in the country.
I wasn't that far out.
I commuted.
It took me about 45 minutes to an hour depending on traffic to get into town.
I drive kind of fast.
We got 10 acres.
I cut my real estate buster, my mortgage payment by probably 60% because real estate was cheaper in the country, and I got a smaller house.
I didn't need as big a house, so I still had a mortgage, but I cut it way down.
My kids were able to get horses.
When I lived in town, I couldn't let my kids play in the front yard because they kidnapped people and stuff, so that was a great step.
Anybody who says, I work in downtown Las Vegas or Portland, Oregon or Dallas or whatever and I can't give up my job.
Okay, I understand if you can't, you probably could, but people think they can't because they're in their comfort zone and they don't want to move out.
Fine, but you could still move an hour away, and you could take the effort to commute in.
You could listen to tapes on the radio.
Boy, Don, I'll tell you something.
Our lives have really paralleled.
I lived in Las Vegas for many, many years, and I moved out.
I'm 65 miles west out in the high desert now, and I did it for all the reasons that you're talking about.
You bet.
You bet.
Okay, now, I want to step further.
I tried that for a couple of years, and I said, this is great, but this is not great enough.
And so now I moved about 300 miles out into the mountains, and I have to have an airport close by.
I've got an airport within 15 miles, so I can get in and out.
But I'm more than a gas tank away from a major city, and that would be ideal.
But the thing is, where you live, where I live, we can at least garden.
We are more self-sufficient.
It's much more difficult.
The government can't harass everybody all across the hinterland at one time.
Okay, another area of self-sufficiency.
Alright, but before we leave it, Don, you're lucky, I'm lucky, we've both been able to do this.
Right.
What about the massive numbers of people we're talking about now that are not going to be able to get out of the
city, what do you say to them?
Well, I have a whole section in here on urban self-sufficiency and what you need to do as far as being armed in the city,
how women should always carry a number 10 pepper mace, what you need to do when you're in parking lots,
I list about 25 or 30 different things, if you can't leave, that you need to do.
As a matter of fact, 28 to be exact.
There's a great book, I suggest, The Urban Survival Handbook by John Lofty Weissman, who's a former Chief Survival Trainer for the British SAS Special Air Service.
And I give a lot of different advice for people if they have to live in the city.
It's not the best, but I understand some people just can't move out.
They can't afford to move out.
They can't even afford to move out 40, 50 miles, 65 miles like you and I have done.
So I've got, I think, some constructive ideas there.
Boy, I'll tell you what, if you live in the city, and this goes on to another area of self-sufficiency, Firearms self-sufficiency is essential.
Look at those poor idiots out in Los Angeles, forgive me if you were not one of those idiots, but who were so ill-prepared during the Los Angeles riots, didn't have enough food to get through a weekend, didn't have enough gasoline in their car to get out of town, they thought they could go to the local fast food place or the grocery stores, but they were either burned down, shut down, the employees didn't show up for work, and they hovered behind doors with baseball bats as the marauders
came down the streets because they weren't armed.
The threat of civilization is very tenuous and very thin, isn't it?
Indeed it is.
Indeed it is.
And so firearm self-sufficiency is, I think it's very important for you and I, we live
We may want to hunt.
We may want to protect our family.
As Thomas Jefferson said, you may even need those firearms for protection against tyranny and pirates one day, but it's even more important if you live in the city and that you know how to use them.
Every family ought to have a minimum of a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol.
Every woman ought to have a can of number 10 peppermace that she carries with her all the time.
By the way, here's a little clue.
If you don't want to carry number 10 peppermace, everybody ought to have a big, gigantic, family-sized can of Dow Oven Cleaner.
and just leave it in your front seat you spray somebody in the eyes with that
they'll probably never see again but if it's you against them and they're trying
to kill you or rape you it's probably worth it very low profile but you could shoot at 15 or 20 feet no
extra charge for that one number 10 pepper mace is great a
policeman i was going through a firearms training school down in texas
and this policeman told me about it and then we got some and this friend of mine
accidentally shot me in the face with it a very dumb friend i might add uh and
let me tell you something it really works i went out i bought a can for all
of my family i said this is really great after i stopped weeping and crying and i got out of pain so
there there's a whole lot of things you need to do if you live in the city
and you need to you know there's there's This is an oversimplification, but we live in the red, yellow, or green zones.
In the green zone, I'm totally relaxed.
I'm pretty totally relaxed sitting out here in my mountains right now.
When I'm walking around in Denver, I'm pretty much operating in the yellow zone or the red zone.
And that means you're cautious, you're looking around.
My friends in New York City, I mean, it's like the ones that are street smart.
It's like they've got radar that's going 360 degrees, and they're looking all the time.
They're always conscious of their surroundings and who's watching them.
and so forth and they are always ready to bolt, fight, jump in a car, do something.
And if you are going to live in the city, then you are going to have to be willing to
live in the yellow and the red zone.
It reduces the overall quality of life.
Absolutely, your stress level is going to be higher.
You can't let your kids play out in the streets.
When I lived in Denver, the kids, the teenagers, their form of entertainment was to go walk
around the shopping center.
That was it.
That was the only thing they could find to do.
Living in the country, my kids climb mountains, they go camping, they do backpacking, they
do rock climbing, they do kayaking, they do fishing, they do all this kind of stuff.
But, you know, your lifestyle is going to be different.
I would say that most listeners who say, oh, I'm tied to a job, I'm right in the middle of a big city, I can't move, they ought to get my September 93 newsletter on self-sufficiency where we deal with cottage and home-based businesses.
Because of the computer, because of the fax machine, it is so easy to do businesses in remote areas, even if you're pulling business from around the country.
And high-tech is working on our side as well as the other guy's side as far as making us independent and being able to decentralize.
Has the information explosion got a good chance against the powers that press?
I don't know.
This thing is moving very rapidly and I wish I could be a Pollyanna and say the good guys are going to rise up and stop this thing.
Most Americans are still asleep.
Your listeners, my readers, they're not asleep.
They're part of the remnant who are waking up.
I don't know.
That's why my newsletter says, America at the Crossroads, Freedom or Slavery.
Unless we have a tremendous awakening and it happens very quickly, I think between now and the end of the decade we will lose our freedom.
Uh, you know, we, we, you know, we all took it, we all thought, oh my gosh, maybe we're turning this thing when we, when we won the first vote in the crime bill here about three weeks ago.
And then they turn around and they, they trounced us, you know, over the next week or two.
Uh, we, you look at the make-up of the Congress, you look at the make-up of the administration, you look at how the left ha- owns the believers.
See, the political left in this country is a minority.
They, they probably are no more than 5% of the country, and the elitists who are pushing the New World Order, are are very very small minority for you know way less than one percent of their very loud decibel level picnic unfortunately they control the levers of power okay uh... and that's in that that's in the judiciary uh... that's in the in the media that's in the entertainment industry that the educational system up in the mainline church religious denominations you know i don't know by the way on on the score back very quickly to guns there is at some point maybe not now dawn but when confiscation begins to be sure there is going to be a direct
Second Amendment challenge, the NRA is going to be forced to do it, or gun owners of America.
Somebody's going to go up to the high court and say, look, this is not constitutional, and there's going to be a test, and there's going to be a verdict, and what do you think it'll be?
We'll lose.
We'll lose because right now they are packing the Supreme Court.
I believe, how many is it, two?
He's already put on the Supreme Court, and they're leftist, of course.
You don't think Bill Clinton would put anything else but leftist on.
And George Bush didn't do a lot better, with the exception of the, who's the black man?
So you're not anxious for a test?
No, I don't think a test is going to go good.
I think whereas we've had a few rulings for us, for our side, on a number of issues in the Supreme Court over the
last five or ten years, I think that is going to diminish.
The political left control the levers of power in this country, but they only have about 5, 6, 7, 10 percent of the population at most.
Now, on the other side, we've got 5 or 10 percent of the population, and I hope it's closer to 10, but it might be 5, who knows, who are constitutionalists, who are traditionalists, who are patriotics.
Many of them are of the so-called hated Christian right that the Clintonistas are attacking now.
I'm a Christian conservative traditionalist, and I'm not ashamed of it, but they're attacking people like us.
So our side has 5 or 10 percent.
Now, unfortunately, in the middle are the 80 to 90 percent of the sheeple, the people who don't think, the masses.
Every civilization which is in decline has the great majority who don't think, and so the balance of power either goes between our 5 or 10 percent or their 5 or 10 percent.
They control all the levers of power right now, and we don't.
We do not control power in the United States, our side.
But we have made major inroads in the communications area, in the homeschooling area.
They don't know how to disarm the American people.
They're going to try, and they're going to run flat into a brick wall when they try, I believe.
And so there are major obstacles, and as you and I both have agreed, major confrontation is coming over the next three or four years.
How it will turn out, I don't know.
As George Washington said, the event is in the hand of God.
I don't know how it's going to turn out, but I do believe That if more Americans don't wake up, we could very well lose all of our freedom and be served in the New World Order.
Well, on the negative side of things, what worries me is, I'm going to drag you back to Waco for a second.
When Waco occurred, these people were literally burned out.
I felt that if they had a cross on top of that building, they never could have stood the pictures of the tanks crushing a building with a cross, but nevertheless, they did.
The burning occurred.
It was awful.
In my opinion, it was murder.
We just had a big congressional investigation over Whitewater that went, in essence, absolutely nowhere.
A couple sacrificial lambs, that's all.
And so why no congressional investigation of Waco?
Why aren't we seeing Janet Reno being grilled?
Why aren't we getting the computer memos trying to decide how the decisions were made and where everything went wrong?
It's just died, and the American people sat back and have let it die.
Yeah, the American people slept through that one, but that's the bad news.
And of course, the government murdered those people, men, women, and children.
They gassed them, they burned them.
The morning they went in, they knew they were going to gas them and burn them.
That was the intention.
They never intended to let any of them out alive.
Too much evidence in there that had to be burned up.
And we could go on and on about WACO, and I'm sure you've had numerous programs on that.
The point is, WACO was a wake-up call to a lot of people in the remnant.
Okay, that five or ten percent on our side, the traditionalists, the conservatives, the Christians, there have been a lot of people woken up as a result of Waco.
Yes, they whitewashed it.
Yes, they covered up, just like they're doing Whitewater and the Vince Foster murder and all of the stuff the Mendacity, the Clint Easters are doing.
They're covering those things up.
Expect them to.
They control the levers of power in this country, so don't be surprised.
But I think they've gone so far on some things, and because of our information network that we've now got in this country, Waco did wake up a lot of people.
And I think in that respect, those people may not have totally died in vain.
They were murdered.
It was something on the level that the Nazis would do.
And I write, by the way, and I've written a number of newsletters in recent months about the parallels between the United States and Nazi Germany today.
And so, but the great number of sheep will be 80 to 90% in the middle, the dumb ones, the ones that get all their information from television and think they know everything and know nothing.
Those people didn't wake up, but there's more people on our side beginning to wake up, and so there is a polarization that's going on.
And sure, expect them to be able to cover up.
This is why, and I don't know if I said this earlier in the program, or maybe I said it to you off the air, I think I said it earlier in the program.
Don't count Bill Clinton out for being re-elected in 1996.
With all the mendacity that the thinking people in your audience and hopefully that read my newsletter know, We know that they can cover that up if they control the levers of power in the press.
Now, the one way that they will get Bill Clinton is if the establishment decides to take him down.
If they decide, look, people all over the world and in countries all over the world are laughing at us.
And it's actually causing a little embarrassment for the New World Order.
This is the man that's leading the American branch of the New World Order and he's a buffoon.
Well, that'll only occur if he goes too far too fast.
True, or if he becomes too much of an embarrassment and they say, look, we've got to pull the plug on this guy, and so if the establishment decides to get rid of him, and you'll know, you'll see him being massively attacked in the New York Times and the establishment media, then they put in Al Gore.
Al Gore is just as dangerous, maybe more so.
He looks better, he's not as immoral, he doesn't have as much Moral baggage and so forth with him.
I don't think he's probably ever killed anybody.
By the way, the body count is over 30 in Arkansas now.
Anybody who got too close is dead.
It's like the Kennedy assassination.
The people who knew too much before you knew it, in a year there was 50 people dead.
Well, I understand the body count in Arkansas for people who know too much about what the criminals are up to is over 30.
Al Gore doesn't have those kinds of problems.
He's like George Bush.
The establishment owns him.
He's a new-ager.
He's a new world order man.
He's a radical environmentalist.
He's like Bush.
He looks fairly clean.
And so they may decide early next year to put Al Gore in.
And then they might have a shot at getting him re-elected in 1996.
I don't know.
And this is something I think it's a moot point we could argue all day long.
The point is, Don't ever count out the Clintonistas, because they always come back.
And look, four more years, if we have these folks back in from 1996 to the year 2000, then there will either be a conflict or we'll be slaves.
We will lose all of our freedom.
I don't think they can take down the Constitution totally.
Between now and 96, but you give them 96 to the year 2000, and I do believe they can take down the Constitution, and then we are in deep trouble.
So the crunch point, it's coming in the next few years, if not sooner, in your opinion.
Indeed.
Indeed.
And watch for a state of national emergency.
Watch and see if they try to impose a state of national emergency.
The biggest dilemma that they've got is not just your talk shows and my newsletters, The biggest dilemma they've got is the American people being armed.
All right, hold that thought.
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These are some of the most precious hours that I can recall spending in radio.
My guest is Don McElvenny, and what a story it's been.
If you have not heard the first two hours, all I can do is implore you to order a tape of these two hours, and we'll tell you how as the morning wears on.
But whatever you do, you've really got to get this information and act on it.
All right, brace yourself.
Don McElveen is about to come back, and he's not pulling any punches this morning with regard to the advice he's giving out, with regard to what he feels is coming.
And as I said, if you have missed the previous two hours, you've got to get hold of a tape.
Back now to Don McIlvainy.
And very quickly, Don, just a couple questions.
We've got to get to the phones.
We've got to get to the phones.
But a couple of questions.
One involves Cuba.
I can't figure out what we're doing with Cuba.
I just heard the news.
Thousands of rafters are setting sail.
We're being inundated.
And for years and years and years, we begged Castro, pleaded with him, let your people go, let there be open immigration, all the other things that you want from a small communist dictatorship like that.
Now, Castro has let his people go, and the first thing Bill Clinton does is shut it all down, tell them they can't come to America.
I understand it's a strain, but it's also kind of a weird, reverse, upside-down policy.
What's going on with Cuba, Don?
Well this is Marielle number two.
You may remember they had the first Marielle boat lift during the Carter administration and they dumped about 120,000 people into South Florida and a lot of those were good freedom loving people but they also emptied out their insane asylums, their prisons, they sent their homosexuals, they sent their drug addicts and they sent the dregs of society over.
A lot of those people ended up in prison.
Some of those people, I guess, are still in prison.
They sent some of them back.
Is that the nature of the prison that's coming now?
I don't know.
I would say that there probably are some of those.
Remember, when I was growing up, my mom used to fix potatoes and stuff in a pressure cooker.
And the pressure cooker had this little thing on the top and it would rattle and the steam would come off and so forth.
As pressure builds in Cuba, They will occasionally let people out.
And some of them are dissidents, and some of them are going to be the bad dregs of society and so forth.
But they let pressure off of the system periodically for doing that.
So I think that that's part of the motive behind Muriel No.
1, and I think you could call this the Muriel Boatlift No.
2.
But I think there may be more to it this time.
Part of the agenda of the establishment has been to normalize relations with Cuba.
Now, it doesn't look on the surface like that's the direction it's going.
But has been to normalize relations with Cuba so that we could drop this long embargo and start giving aid to Cuba, et cetera, et cetera.
And I think that that is one of the goals of the political left.
And you've had people on our side have certainly, I think, pushed for just the opposite, pushed to do anything impossible to overthrow Castro, which we should have done 25 years ago.
I think that out of this whole thing could come negotiations between The Clinton State Department and the Castro government.
Before it's all over, I think that this thing could go the opposite direction, and you could see a relaxing of tensions between Cuba and America, and indeed an opening up of relations between the two.
That is one of their goals.
I know that that is one of the goals of the Clinton administration.
Well, isn't it a little strange that we're going to go to New York and negotiate with Castro, one subject only supposedly, and that is getting Castro to, in effect, clamp down and stop what's going on.
And stop the people from getting out.
That's right.
Understand, we have been helping and working with and collaborating with communist dictators.
I mean, you go back to 1917 when our powerful folks helped put the Russian government in power.
I mean, look at what we're doing with Red China right now.
We just helped put the communists in power in South Africa.
So watch out.
Out of this whole thing is going to be a breaking, I think, I predict it will be a breaking of the log jam between America and Cuba.
And out of it will come some kind of normalization of relations with Cuba.
It doesn't look like that right now, but you watch and see how it evolves over the next few months.
All right, listen to this.
It's a fax that just came in.
I want your comments on it.
Just cleared my fax machine.
From the militia of Montana, it says, within the free zone.
To all Washington citizens, research and seizure.
We have received information from National Guard members That there was a briefing during the week of the 22 August 94 in which members of the Washington National Guard who are stationed in the western side of the state are to be deployed to a town on the eastern side of the state for the purpose of house-to-house search and seizure within two weeks of the briefing date.
The special emphasis was also made for the unit to create a conflict with civilian militias that are now being formed.
The unit also consists of 30 to 40 percent UN troops.
Again, this information came from within the unit.
If and when we find out the exact location, we will notify you.
Also, these types of reports cannot be confirmed until it happens, which, of course, we do not want.
Comments?
Yeah, I see a lot of faxes like that, and I think that some end up being accurate and good information, and some don't.
We do live in a period of wars and rumors of wars.
That's right.
Basically, I make note of those things, I file them, I watch them, and then I see if they can be confirmed from other sources.
And indeed, you'll know in a few weeks if this is true.
Let me tell you why it's not off the wall, though, whether this particular communique is accurate.
Conceptually, it's not off the wall.
We know that they went in for warrantless searches in the public housing projects in Chicago earlier this year.
That's right.
And then bragged about it on MTV.
That's right.
And people do a lot more of that.
That's it.
You guys have got to be willing to give up some of your freedoms to bring about stability, etc., etc., ad nauseam.
Okay.
Now, what I also know, and I get this from people who are high up in the government, who are friends, and by the way, there are some real good, patriotic, solid citizens.
Who are in most of these government agencies.
I mean, they're not all bad guys.
And we've got, there's some good, and they're appalled.
And I know some of these people at what they see our government doing.
In any case, a friend of mine who is very high up in the Treasury Department, pointed out to me that for the last three or four months, there's been an operation going on over in Puerto Rico, a test case if you will, where they have been going into all kinds of public housing projects all over and doing House to house searches for guns, no warrants, etc., etc.
U.S.
police have been involved from the mainland, have been involved in this, and you've had U.S.
police officials and federal officials and National Guard officials going down and watching the operation.
So kind of a training exercise, if you will, has been going on for some months in that part of the country, or not the country, but in that territory of Puerto Rico.
Friends of mine in the police, but who have good contacts with naval intelligence, told me earlier in the summer that they were expecting to have these kinds of sweeps for firearms down in the Tucson area.
I'm not aware that that's happened yet, but I think you're going to start to see this in a lot of parts of the country.
They're going to do some test runs at it.
They're already doing test runs in Puerto Rico, Chicago, etc.
I don't know if this communique is accurate, but I will say that this sort of thing is on the drawing boards.
Surely the National Guard has been practicing for house-to-house searches for firearms and drugs for several years.
Ultimately, the National Guard and local police won't be enough if they start doing this all over.
They will have to use the U.S.
military.
I'm sure you're aware of the questionnaire.
That was circulated to the Marines at 29 Palms in California, which they asked the Marines if they would consider attacking their own people.
The exact question was, there were a whole series of questions in this questionnaire.
One of them was, they asked, I would swear to the following code.
I am a United Nations fighting person.
I serve in the forces which maintain world peace.
In every nation's way of life, I am preparing to give my life in their defense.
When you'd like your son to sign that.
The U.S.
Government declares a ban on possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms.
A 30-day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to local authorities.
where the US government declares a ban on possession, sale, transportation and transfer of all non-sporting firearms.
A 30-day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to local authorities.
At the end of this period, a number of citizens groups refused to turn over their firearms, considering the
following statement.
I would fire upon U.S.
citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S.
government.
Okay, now that was the last question on this long questionnaire, which basically was trying to get the feel of how our soldiers would react to being under U.N.
command, United Nations command.
Now, they've tried to deny this, you know, this was just a guy who was working on a master's degree, passed this out.
That's exactly what I've heard, yes.
Yeah, but on the other hand, Navy SEALs all over the country, Larry Pratt of Gunners America, has talked with a number of Navy SEALs, not all together, in different situations, especially in SEAL Team 6, who have talked about being asked the same question.
So I think we know that between the National Guard uh... and various areas of the of the u s military they are
prepared preparing to use them
in the coming gun confiscation obviously twenty five hundred
eighty f eight and three ten thousand f b i agents
can't confiscate two hundred million firearms from seventy five million
americans for the military whether it's u s u n national border some combination of
all the above has to So that communique you just got, whether we can confirm it, whether you or... You'll know.
You'll know in a few weeks if it's true.
All right.
Thank you.
They're working on that all over the country.
All right.
Here's a good follow-up question, or after all this, to ask you this question is good.
Would your guest advise, faxes somebody, staying in the United States or moving offshore somewhere?
Okay, that's a real personal thing and I do believe that one of the things that you need to have in the whole upcoming scenario is we all need to listen to God and get his guidance and direction.
For most people, I think staying here in America and supporting our Constitution and our traditional way of life is going to be the way to go.
I do know people, I will tell you this, there have been more people who have left the United And left with their money, their families, their businesses
in the last 18 months and in the last 25 years put together.
People understand what's coming.
Not everybody is asleep.
Not everybody just fell off the turnip truck.
So you have tens if not hundreds of thousands, I think 250,000 Americans either move their
families or businesses or their assets out of the United States in the last 12 months.
And that was actually an article, Flight from America, that I think was in Money Magazine
here a month or two ago.
I've been hearing about it.
Okay, so it is happening.
I understand why some people are doing that.
They remember what it was like before.
You know, there were some people that fled Russia and others stayed.
Well, in hindsight, probably the ones that fled were right.
Some people fled not to Germany.
Some stayed.
In hindsight, maybe the ones who fled were right.
I don't have a simple answer to that.
All I know is I will stay.
This is my country.
And I will stay and do everything in my power to defend the Constitution, to defend our traditional way of life, to continue to try to wake up people and so forth.
And I think that there's more millions of people are going to stay, so I'm not in the business of recommending that people leave.
That's my answer as well, Don.
Look, we've got to get to some phone calls.
Let's do it.
On the toll-free line, you're on the air with Don McElvenny.
Hi.
Do you have to speak something, or can you just make a comment?
Well, you can do whatever you want to do, sir.
Where are you calling from?
Everett, Washington.
Everett, all right.
Go ahead.
Well, I think on the medical, you know, the health bill and the crime bill both, they can be boiled down with, you know, free enterprise.
If you ban these guns, people make these guns.
That is their enterprise, that is their livelihood.
If you ban that, you are banning their livelihood.
The same way with health, if everyone is supposed to be guaranteed health benefits or whatever,
that is just like all the doctors and the health providers are slaves or whatever.
You know they have to do it.
Alright, thank you.
Well, Don, there is the possibility that our wonderful way of life, our entrepreneur way of life,
can in effect be legislated or decreed out of business, huh?
Out of existence, absolutely.
There are four little words.
When I was growing up, there was a song in a movie called Three Little Words Say I Love You.
Well, there's four little words that describe the whole agenda of the Clintonistas and this move towards a socialist police state to control the people.
To control the people.
They want to control every aspect of our lives.
If they can control us medically, The big quantum jump to controlling us.
They can control health.
They can say who can get medical care and who can't.
If you're old, let me tell you something.
Abortion.
You may be for or against abortion.
I don't really care, but understand this.
Abortion was started by the globalist establishment.
A friend of mine who used to be in the United Nations and has left and is now a Christian was asked by the Rockefellers to help start up the World Abortion Movement 25 years ago.
It is the Planned Parenthood that is completely financed by the establishment group that killed off 37 million babies in the last 20 years, and they're doing this on a global basis.
Euthanasia is part of the UN Globalist Population Control, and that's coming in like a flood, and that will be expedited by the Clinton East to Socialize Medicine Program.
The AIDS and the plagues that are coming up, and a lot of them I think are coming from laboratories, are also part of the population control.
They're going to be able to use, they're going to be able to, the National ID Card will be part of the new National Health Care Socialized Medicine Program.
Controlling and rationing medical care so that they can choose who lives and who dies.
And old folks are going to be, they're going to be written off.
They're going to be written off.
Euthanasia will come like a flood with this.
and hate netter seventy seventy five years old you listen to this program
remember there is a list of this this program that this new health
care program could sign your death warrant
controlling nineteen percent of quantum leap to control nineteen percent of the
economy has that it's pure unadulterated socialism
and people control so with the crime control bill so is the so that uh...
uh... so is is is is the gun control and so forth all of this is to control the
american people go over travel through the land of the world but
Remember Gulliver's travels?
He lays down on the grass to take a sleep, and he wakes up, and these little bitty critters, you know, they've been busy.
They're about the size of a mouse or smaller, and they've been whining threat around him.
And just, you know, what's a threat?
Or two, or three, or five, or ten, or even a hundred for a giant.
But when he wakes up, he's like he's mummified.
He can't move.
He's like he's in a straitjacket.
And that's what they're doing to us.
86,000 pages.
of regulations were passed last year.
Tens of thousands of regulations.
They filled 86,000 pages of the Federal Register to implement 2,500 new laws that were passed by the
Congress.
I'm talking in 93.
Similar amount in 92.
Probably larger amount this year in 94.
Okay?
And these laws, rules, and regulations carry criminal as well as civil penalties.
Based on those regulations, in the last 12 months, 250,000 Americans have had their assets seized.
And so what we're seeing is we're like Gulliver.
They're just totally wrapping us up and mummifying us.
And when it's all over, guess what?
We're slaves.
We're like the folks who lived in Nazi Germany or in Russia.
All right.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Don McIlvain.
Hi.
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
It's Mr. Leonard.
You have a question, Leonard?
Yes.
Go ahead.
This thing, God, the God of love of money, who is trying to rule each of our individual lives, is also trying to rule America.
Alright, is that your view, Don?
of destroying us both.
That is why Christ came to this earth as Savior of each of us individuals.
Having created us in his own image as free moral agents, he forces his morality or his
salvation upon none of us.
His kingdom on earth is made up entirely of volunteers.
Salvation is for whosoever will.
If we follow Christ and his teachings, he will save us and if enough of us follow him,
he will also save America.
Alright, is that your view Don, that that's what will save us?
I think that we are involved in a spiritual battle as well as a political battle.
I do agree with what your caller just said.
If you'll go back and look at Nazi Germany, the whole Third Reich was basically based on the occult.
The leaders of the Third Reich were Satanists.
They worshipped Satan, they worshipped Eastern religions, and they were total occultists.
And so what most people, and I'm doing a lot of study right now, I'm writing a book on the coming persecution of the Christian Church and the traditionalists in America, and I'm going to have several chapters that parallel us with Nazi Germany, and the thing that most people have missed is that the dynamic behind the Nazi Third Reich was not purely or even primarily political, it was supernatural.
That we're looking at a supernatural battle between good and evil, between the forces of God and Satan.
Well, I certainly feel we ought to depend on God's help through all this, but I am also a believer in the fact that, you know that old saying that Mom said, God helps those who help themselves.
And we've got to be alert.
I think Christians, I'm a Christian, okay?
No apologies for that.
Most of the Christians I know are bloody idiots, okay?
Some understand the Bible, a lot don't.
The Christian Church in America is fat, dumb, and lazy, apathetic, complacent, and ruined by 50 years of prosperity since the end of World War II, and that describes the average American.
Fat, dumb, and happy is the phrase.
Fat, dumb, happy, lazy, whatever you want to call it.
But the point is, they've missed the point.
They understand Jesus Christ, and I agree with your caller 100%.
They've missed the point.
That the Bible also has a great deal to say about taking a stand against evil.
And Americans in general, and Christians in general, have not taken, they haven't recognized evil, they haven't taken a stand against it.
And so, I agree, I think Christians need to be taking a stand for Jesus Christ, and I try to with everything I do.
And we also need to be taking a stand against evil.
I think with God's help, we may turn it around.
I think without God's help, we won't turn it around.
Uh, and so I agree with your caller, but I'll, and I'll also agree with you, that we need to draw a line in the sand and say, this is it.
We've let these evil people, who are destroying our way of life, we've let them go far enough.
Our founding fathers were not all Christians, but many of them had a Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other.
That's it.
Alright, Don, uh, hold on.
We're at the bottom of the hour.
We'll be right back to you.
Don McElvenny is my guest.
there will be more.
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My guest is Don McIlvainy.
He'll be back in just a moment.
And I've got somebody that takes him on in a fax and we'll get his response to that.
🎵 Well, alright.
Here it comes, Don.
As you come back, here's the facts.
Art, this comes from Larry in Seattle.
Art, I think this guy needs to get a grip on reality.
I think that maybe he's just a little paranoid.
While it's true the government seems to be trying to gain control of every aspect of our lives, I think the American people are just a little smarter than he gives them credit for.
Response?
I think the American people in general are dumber than I give them credit for.
80 to 90 percent in the middle.
There are some thinking people over on the conservative, traditionalist side, and unfortunately there are some very thinking, smart people who come up with all the wrong conclusions over on the liberal side.
I'm used to being called a gloom and doomer.
That's okay.
I think that's a label that's hung on me and a lot of conservatives and traditionalists who are trying to be watchmen and wake people up.
I think it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what the government is doing in every aspect of our life.
I mean, we had 250,000 seizures in the last 12 months of people's assets by the government.
There have been private studies done by major newspapers that said that 90-95% of those people had not violated any major law, they just had stumbled over some government regulation.
I mean, if we can't see the controls that are coming by environmentalism, cash reporting Moving of the U.S.
military under the United Nations and so forth.
I think there's a tremendous amount of information that's building up and evidence is building up that people are just not joining the dots.
And I think your caller, who I'm sure is very sincere, is not joining all the dots to see where this thing is going.
Read the writings of the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations and the establishment folks and see what they say their plans are.
I don't know.
in the new world order, then you decide automatically you may be crazy, but this is what these guys
are saying themselves.
I would encourage your caller, the caller who said that, to get my newsletter, America
at the Crossroads, Freedom or Slavery.
I mentioned earlier, at least in one of the earlier hours, how they could get a copy of
that and also the other newsletter on moving towards greater self-sufficiency.
Go ahead and give your 800 number out again.
Okay, if people want to get a copy of this letter or that particular caller, call it.
I'll send you 28 pages.
1-800-525-9556.
If you'd like to subscribe, you can get a six month subscription for the price of three.
Or if you just want to get a free copy of that newsletter and the one on self-sufficiency, call us at 1-800-525-9556.
You look at what the United Nations is doing and saying right now, and I analyze it in detail in the newsletter.
You look at these questionnaires that are being given out by the government on moving U.S.
troops under the U.N.
You look at the Gun Control Express, you look at the EEOC regulations that say you can't even mention God in the workplace, you study the U.N.
Convention on the Rights of the Child, which could be ratified within the next 60 days, and then you try to tell me that these things are not piling up.
And I analyze these in detail, so I would encourage that caller to look and see.
And, hey, you want to call me a gloom and doom or fine, it's like when somebody's on a railroad track and the train is coming towards them, To warn them that they're in grave danger, to warn them that they're about to get massacred, and that they better jump off the track.
If that's called gloom and doom, fine.
So be it.
This is the end of side one.
Please leave the cassette exactly where it is.
Back in the early 80s, I was writing a newsletter then.
A week after Pope John Paul was assassinated, they tried to assassinate him, I wrote in my newsletter that it was a KGB operation from A to Z.
People laughed at me.
They said, you are out of your mind.
What are you talking about?
Ali Agha, the Gray Wolves, right-wing extremists, lone assassin.
What are you talking about?
What?
And I had written, it was a poll of Bureau.
Order came down from the poll of Bureau to take out the Pope and that the KGB pulled this thing off.
A year later, Claire Sterling wrote about it in the Reader's Digest.
And from that point forward, it's been common knowledge that the KGB tried to take him out.
We had darn good intelligence information out of French intelligence as to exactly what had happened.
We have a lot of good wires in Washington.
We monitor about 500 publications a month, as well as having some really good intelligence contacts around the world.
I won't say we're 100% accurate with what we say in our newsletter, but I'd like to think we're about 97 or 95% accurate.
So I would encourage that reader, if he thinks it's gloom and doom, get a couple of my newsletters, read them, think about them.
If you don't like them, that's okay, trash them.
You can start a fire with them.
They might give you some food for thought and help you to see this whole trend.
There is a black crowd moving over to America now, and I don't think it can be ignored.
All right, Don.
Toll-free line, you're on the air with Don McElvenny.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Yes, sir.
Where are you calling from?
I'm calling from Central California on KYOS, listening on the KYOS.
Very good.
All right.
Go ahead.
Okay, Don.
What do you hear about this deal with Vince Foster?
Are you contending that there was some foul play there on the Administration's part on that deal?
Well, there's an awful lot of things that just do not compute.
Number one, they're now saying his body may have been moved as many as four different times.
He was apparently shot in an apartment.
His fingerprints were not on the gun.
Isn't that strange?
His glasses were found about 15 or 20 feet away.
I suppose you could say they got blown away, except it didn't seem like there was any major damage to the glasses.
He was the first person who found him, found him laying in one position.
They came along a few minutes later and his hands and everything had been moved.
Vince Foster was very, very close to Hillary.
I mean, it's strongly rumored back in Arkansas that there had been a liaison between them that had gone back some ten years, but more importantly probably, He was very, very tied in with the whole Whitewater thing, the cover-up and so forth.
Now whether this guy was about to have a nervous breakdown, whether he was about to blow the whistle, whether he knew too much or whatever, we probably will never know.
You look at the cover-up.
The cover-up is like the Waco cover-up.
When they bring in an independent arsonist from Houston, But he turns out that he was also a consultant for the ATF for ten years, and his wife is married to the head of the ATF office in Houston that planned the Waco Massacre.
You say, well, maybe that was a cover-up.
Well, we have here a top government official is found dead, and you have the Washington Park Police investigated.
Okay?
Very, very strange goings-on.
There's a lot of evidence that they're trying to suppress.
That's why they brought in That's frankly why they brought in the new prosecutor, because the old one had completely covered it up.
Whether the truth will ever come out, who killed him, who knows.
How much faith do you have in Kenneth Starr?
I don't know that much about the man.
He sounds like he's a pretty dramatic improvement over, I believe it was Fisk was the last guy.
And it sounds like this will be a dramatic improvement, but we'll have to see.
It may just be a continuation of the cover-up.
These things, they have the ability to cover these things up a lot better than we would suppose.
The massive amount of when they go into his office and they start all of this, you know, cutting up, shredding of the papers and evidence and so forth immediately thereafter.
They've scrambled so hard to cover it up that it... You remember, it was the Watergate cover-up that nailed Nixon.
It wasn't Watergate per se, which was a relatively minor infraction of the Watergate cover-up.
Well, there's been the same kind of scramble to cover up this Whitewater thing, and I think there's growing evidence that the man was murdered.
By who?
I'm not ready to say, and I don't think anybody can say, but I think there's some obvious Conscious that you might jump to.
Why are they ignoring the testimony of this late witness who saw the bodies, saw the hands in a different position, saw a lot, and they seem to be just ignoring it?
How come?
They don't want the truth to come out.
And even the Republicans are not pursuing this thing like they should.
The Republicans could have put this guy down so long ago.
They keep helping him along.
They have no Smell for blood.
They could end this presidency if they had chosen to do so, and even if they don't want to do so, they're going to ignore that witness as much as they can.
It may be that this thing gets away from them.
I don't know.
I have friends in Washington that believe that between Whitewater, the Spence Foster murder, and all the bimbo eruptions, etc., etc., that he can't survive.
I'm not so sure.
I hope they're right.
I'm not so sure.
We'll have to see.
This guy, their ability to cover up, is great and witnesses died very quickly let me give you a
story the uh...
uh... a friend of mine knows the editor of the washington times yes this man
communicated a story to him they have done a tremendous uh... like good job of exposing whitewater and the vince
foster situation and so forth with a series of articles
not unlike what the washington post that maybe on the wall on the watergate thing
fifteen twenty years ago That's true.
And a former governor of Arkansas called the editor of the Washington Times and said, your articles are great.
Get a bodyguard.
And he said, what are you talking about?
Are you joking?
He said, you don't understand.
These people kill people.
There's a string of over 30 bodies now in Arkansas where people got too close.
And understood the drug connections, understood about the women, understood the, you know, white water, et cetera, et cetera.
And these people are dead and they're dropping like flies.
Arkansas, Arkansas is kind of a closed up sort of affair.
We're on the air right now in Little Rock, at least I hope we still are.
And people in Little Rock don't really want to talk a lot about it.
Probably embarrassing.
I would say it's probably embarrassing, like the folks from Georgia when Jimmy Carter was president.
This president is the most embarrassing president in the history of the United States.
Don, I've got to tell you, that's the exact word, the word embarrassing, that a lot of people called from Little Rock the other day used.
They said embarrassing.
Embarrassing.
Absolutely.
And you know, the incredible thing is, we don't read the foreign press in this country, but if you read the London Daily Telegraph and a lot of other European papers, They understand.
They're writing stuff that our press is totally covering up and spiking on.
On Whitewater, on Vince Foster, on the women, all the different things.
And people around the world are laughing at America.
I remember, I travel abroad a lot, and I read a lot of the international press, and I remember we were the laughingstock of the world when Jimmy Carter was President.
People looked at us and said, how can you Americans let a buffoon like that be President of the United States?
And now they're looking back and saying, hey, we were wrong about Carter.
Carter's looking good.
You guys are really idiots for letting these people run your country straight into the ground.
So that's what's coming in the foreign press.
And that's one of the reasons the establishment could decide to pull the plug on the Clintons.
And you'll know, watch the establishment press, watch the New York Times, watch the L.A.
Times, watch the Washington Post.
If they begin to level both barrels at the Clintons... Then you'll know the decision has been made.
They've decided to pull the plug.
Look, they pulled the plug on George Bush.
George Bush is total establishment.
And they pulled the plug on George Bush and you knew it wouldn't numb.
And David Rockefeller came out in the New York Times editorial in August of 92 saying, and now get this, would you believe this, quote unquote, the only man we can trust in the election is Bill Clinton.
Okay, the establishment had weighed in.
They had pulled the plug on Bush.
Bush was their man.
He had done his useful thing.
And they decided to move on to somebody else.
They could very well do the same thing and put Gore in.
And then watch to see who the establishment tries to put up as a Republican candidate.
I've got to say this.
This is very important.
There's no real difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
They're Socialist Party A. They're Socialist Party B. They compete with one another so you can tax the most, spend the most, control us the most.
The Liberal Eastern Establishment owns and controls both parties, and so they will probably select whoever is the Republican candidate to run against Gore or Clinton in 1996.
We lose.
All right, there's the prediction.
Don, you're... Will you just kind of stop for a second?
We've got to take a couple calls, or they're going to hang me on the toll-free line.
You're on the air with Don McElhaney.
Where are you calling from, please?
From Phoenix, Arizona.
Phoenix, yes, sir.
Hi, I have a couple questions for Mr. McElhaney, but first I wanted to say that Recently I've come in contact with a lot of information like the Vampire Killer 2000 and the Police Against the New World Order and I've been making copies of that thing and trying to get out to as many people as I can and to several police officers I've given it to and it seems like a lot of them just seems that it's too terrible to be true and they don't really want to accept the whole fact.
and i don't fire happy and i will not only would not much time to have a
question are you i do i'm worried he's from a familiar with any of the
bill cooper's ratings uh... what the old bill hortons or any of the
debate uh... yeah i i i think it was a good stuff and i would
agree with him there's some other things in his writings that i would disagree
with So I think there are better sources of information around than his writings, personal opinion.
I want to go back to what you said, Operation Vampire Killer 2000.
That's a publication that's written by Jack McClam.
Jack is one of the speakers at the Survival Prep Conference out in Seattle that we talked about earlier in the program.
Jack is a former highly decorated policeman in Phoenix.
And you ought to get on his newsletter list.
He's got a newsletter called Aid and a Bet, and he is trying to wake up policemen around the country as to how the New World Order and the establishment are trying to take over local police and get them to help enforce the New World Order.
He's doing a great job.
It's an uphill battle.
And the majority of the police, the real police, the good police who know what's going on, they're older, they're being forcibly retired, and they're bringing in young police and they are brainwashing them with new world order
national federal control over everything type of thinking
uh... jack is doing a dynamite job on trying to wake up police around the
country you ought to get is a debate newsletter
uh... you ought to get his vampire killer two thousand give it to police
people around the country uh... there's another good police organization called cops
for christ that's run for a by a friend of mine
and they also understand a lot about what's going on You can get the numbers for either one of those by calling us at our 800 number, and we'll dig it out for you and tell you how you can get a hold of those publications.
All right, good, Don.
On the wild card line, you're on the air with Don McElvenny.
Good morning.
Well, hello, Don?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, calling from KEX Portland.
Portland, yes.
Yeah, I was wondering if Don was aware of all the, like, seafood processing ships and lumber processing ships off our coast?
I know that's interesting.
Tell me about it.
Well, we have a lot of them.
They're taking raw logs from the Northwest and shipping them out to these ships.
They're processing them into furniture and bringing them back into the country.
They're taking our jobs.
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it.
And the food processing ships, North Korea, Japan.
It's all part of the New World Order, folks.
You've got to think internationally.
Don't worry about U.S.
jobs.
You don't mind if you guys lose jobs up there, but you're helping to employ North Koreans or Taiwanese or Chinese or whatever.
After all, we're raising the standard of living for the entire world.
The fact that you folks are losing jobs down in the Pacific Northwest, you don't have to worry about those things.
Basically, overall, everybody is going to be better off on average.
That's the thinking of these idiots.
Obviously, that's not the case.
All right, you touched on Korea.
Korea, make a prediction for me now.
The way I looked at it, Don, we've been played for absolute suckers in Korea.
They've played us for time.
We bought it hook, line, and sinker.
Are the Koreans suddenly giving it up?
Are they going to be nice all of a sudden?
Or what's going on behind the scenes in Korea?
Well, there are no nice guys in North Korea.
They're the nastiest communists in the world, although communists are communists everywhere.
I think that we're going to have potential conflict there, but I will also say this.
Just as we kept poking Saddam Hussein in the eye with a sharp stick because we wanted a war, In Operation Desert Storm, George Bush said it was a stepping stone to the New World Order, so we have been poking the North Koreans in the eye with a sharp stick.
I agree that they have nuclear weapons, but they're only one of 23 countries that are developing nuclear weapons.
Why aren't we worried about the Chinese?
If we're so worried about North Korean nuclear weapons, why aren't we worried about the nuclear weapons program in Red China, which is infinitely larger?
Which is 100 times larger than that in North Korea.
We don't say a word about that, do we?
I think they're looking for another regional war, and I'm saying the establishment people.
I'm not endorsing the North Koreans or the bloodiest, wickedest communists around, but I'm saying that there's something strange because there's other communists, including Iran, which is now getting nuclear weapons, and we've decided to poke the sharp stick in North Korea's eye.
Why?
Do we want another war?
Is it another one of these Operation Distraction type things?
But I remember the Korean War.
I'm old enough to remember the Korean War.
And you get in a war with North Korea, let me tell you something, those guys are tough.
That's not like fighting Iraq.
You bet.
Don, make another prediction for me.
When are we likely to see another atomic weapon detonated in anger?
I think within the next three to five years.
I do think it's important to understand that the Islamists are getting, the radical Islamists are getting nuclear weapons, and it could come from them.
I also think That you've got to watch Russia.
Russia's got 45,000 warheads on 12 to 15,000 missiles and most of them are pointing at the United States.
I believe in the Red Dawn scenario.
It's a military scenario.
Go out and get the movie and see the movie because it's based on a Defense Department war scenario.
I think we have great danger from the Soviets.
From a surprise nuclear attack over the next three to five, seven years.
I'm probably the last guy in the world that believes that, besides a few people over in NATO, and that I know around the world in the intelligence community.
I think you've got to watch the Russians and the fact that they've got nuclear submarines all over the world with nukes pointing at America.
I think you've got to watch a lot of the radical Islamists.
And yes, you've got to watch China, which is arming to the teeth and will be able to hit us with ICBMs.
They can probably already hit us with ICBMs, but that capacity is growing.
So I can see three or four areas that you've got to watch.
Watch China, watch North Korea, watch Iran and some of the radical Islamic states.
And oh, it's great now they can have these little suitcase nuclear bombs.
You know, you can bring one of those into the harbor in New York and watch the Russians very closely.
I think it's a real possibility between now and the year 2000.
Oh boy.
Alright, look, we're at the end of the hour and I know you've got to go.
I know you're in a later time zone.
It's probably coming up on three o'clock there by now.
Right.
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It has been a pleasure.
Thank you, Don.
Thanks so much, Art.
Take care, Don McElvenny.
Don McElvenny, and boy did he ever deliver this morning.
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