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Aug. 7, 1994 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Sean David Morton - UFOs and Predictions
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And Mr. Meyer has compiled a large composite of materials, specifically three books that
are all transcriptions of his conversations with these extraterrestrial beings who claim
to be here to...
Uh, help us, or at least observe.
Uh, they've given Meyer knowledge about, uh, planets in the solar system, the government, um, what's going on on this planet, and where they see, uh, the future of mankind going.
Uh, there's supposed to be a benevolent race that either, that basically has either our best interests in mind, uh, primarily because they feel that they apparently planted this race on this planet, and so they're like our grandparents, sort of looking after us.
Right.
So it's considered by most, it's a very controversial case.
Why is it considered to have a high reliability factor?
In other words, you said there were 150 witnesses to what?
to the various sightings that Meyers had, to Meyers physically disappearing on various occasions.
Really?
Well, Wendell Stephens saw him just vanish.
Crowds of people have seen him just disappear.
And because so many people have actually physically seen the ship, there was one period
when the ship's actually put on a display for one of Meyers' group,
where there were about 12 people on the hill or so, and there were three or four ships
maneuvering up and down a valley.
There was film and video footage of one of the craft, one of the UFOs actually involved in,
I wouldn't call it a dogfight, but there was a Swiss jet fighter
that was swooping the craft, and the craft was moving out of the way
and disappearing and reappearing on the other side again.
Um...
And it's just considered the best UFO case in the world, and the reason I was interested in making a film about it was just because of the fact that this is sort of the grown-up version of E.T.
I think it's becoming very, very widely accepted now that there is something to UFOs, that there are races in the universe.
Interesting though, you mentioned that, and then you mentioned Travis Walton, and you did not mention Corona.
Okay, I go along with Corona and Roswell.
I'm talking about physical contact cases.
Oh, I see.
As far as from an evidence point of view, you're right.
Roswell, Corona, but that's still going to remain a mystery because nobody was inside the ship.
Nobody was actually there when it happened.
Uh, there are physical bodies.
There were reports by, um, deathbed statements by General Rainey, uh, who admitted that they were there by just, uh, that the bodies were there, that they saw the craft.
So that's a good case as far as something physically crashing and physical evidence and here's the body.
The Travis Walton case was an abduction that happened in front of a number of witnesses.
Uh, Travis had an experience inside the ship and obviously lived to tell about it.
But the Billy Meyer case is kind of the next step because now it's, okay, here we are.
It's not so much a revelation as it is a confirmation.
And here's what the universe is all about, and here's where we're going, and here's some notes for you to take back to your people to show here's the true history of planet Earth, here's where we see you're going, here's what's going on in your planet and your solar system and your universe right now.
It's not the grown-up version of E.T.
Yeah, look, you've been intimately involved, I guess.
In this case and in some of the other major cases.
And you sound like a rational person to me.
How convinced are you that this is all the real thing?
I'd say 90% of it.
It's actually UFO hoaxes are very rare.
I'd say 90% of what's going on... The real problem is that all UFO cases are ultimately like Zen cones.
they're ultimately like, they ultimately don't make sense.
So many people find that when you're in a UFO case, you're investigating something,
you eventually come to a wall.
You eventually come to the end of the maze.
Exactly.
Where you don't know what's on the other side of the wall.
And so many people, just because of the way the mind works, instead of simply being calm and quiet about it,
simply saying, well, this is what I know, this is what I know, and this is what I don't know,
and then being quiet and allowing what you don't know to come to you, a lot of people are sort of,
one, screaming out to the weeds, saying that, you know, these are the conclusions which I draw.
And not realizing that a lot of this stuff ultimately doesn't make any sense.
Well, I have to say, though, the UFO community is slow, it seems, to declare something in its own realm to be a fraud.
In other words, it almost hangs on to these things in almost a hope.
We're working on a great fraud case right now for Encounters.
There was a videotape that was circulating For a period of time, it was a one-hour videotape that was a home movie of what appeared to be an actual alien abduction.
And this thing was good.
I mean, it was good.
You had three brothers who were out in the woods, who saw a ship, little aliens walking around the outside of the ship.
Guys run back into the house.
They get guns.
They shoot one of these aliens off the roof.
Really?
The alien falls down off the roof.
Oh my!
There's an alien body in the house.
The women are screaming.
The men go out to get the truck to rescue everybody.
The men disappear.
The alien disappears.
I mean, it was great.
I've never even heard about this.
All right, I'll send you a copy of it.
I would love it.
It's great.
The final shot of it, which was so amazing, was that finally the mother screams at the boy who's taking the video and says, you put that thing down and I'll wrap it around your neck.
So he takes this thing in the corner, you know, takes off the belt or this power belt or whatever,
goes in the kitchen, and then you hear them talking or playing cards in the kitchen,
and then this door at the end of the hallway opens up, and you see this brilliant light that comes from the door.
And you see three alien beings, one by one, come out, turn the corner,
and the third alien being stops, leans back on his foot, tilts his head, looks right at the camera,
Oh no.
And that's the end of the video.
And it was brilliant!
It was absolutely brilliant!
How have you been able to uncover this to be a film?
We did a lot of checking.
I ran checks with the Screen Actors Guild to see if I could find actors or actresses because, you know, I figured that these people are acting in this video, that they're good.
Too good, yeah.
I finally managed to track down... It was produced under a bogus production company and there are all kinds of stories about this video.
There was a story that Look, in the one case that no one had seen the family, that they just completely disappeared, uh, that the video was smuggled out of a Marin County police file.
...company involved in it, but they pretended, only pretended, that the video was fake so that they could copyright it.
Um, and this whole thing went all the way through it.
Alright, well you've got to get me a copy.
I'll send you a copy of it, because we went through this whole thing to try to find it out.
Finally, I found Dean Alioto, who produced the film, I think, for about $10,000 as a
USC student project.
And Dean and I have actually become pretty good friends off this whole thing.
But you'll see pieces of it on Encounters because we're going to do that and say, well,
this is kind of a UFO alien hoax.
And then we're going to do another piece, hopefully, that's going to be an actual alien
Now, here's a woman we feel is actually abducted and has the marks and has probes in her head and the whole thing.
And, you know, we're sort of going to stake her out like a sacrificial lamb and put cameras all around her and see if we can actually get something actually happening.
I see.
Alright, well that's the negative side of it, and I'm glad you're doing that kind of work.
But nevertheless, with all these things you've investigated, you still conclude with 90% reliability that there is something going on.
Oh, there's something out there.
Definitely something out there.
And I, one of my, one of my probably biggest claims to fame was the investigations that I've done into, in Area 51.
And finding that hilltop, and I found this in May of 1991, I climbed up this hill near the base that you can actually
look down on the facility.
And I videotaped the facility and, you know, snuck up there several times and actually got objects coming and going and
things landing and what have you.
Yes.
And of course now that hilltop has become a big deal.
I mean, it was, you know, the military's just confiscated 4,000 acres.
They're planning on closing down Groom Road.
I mean, this was just because myself and my goofy friends were climbing up the top of this hill and watching things going on.
How many times did you meet up with Wackenhut?
Well, virtually every time we went out there.
Most sophisticated.
The more you understand the story, the better you can play.
There's a light on the top and the bottom on the camera, so you just see this massive object moving across the sky.
But this thing had to be an ingestimation, depending on how far it went when it was, like, 900 feet long, which is huge.
All right, Sean, hold that thought.
It's a good cliffhanger point.
We'll come back to you in a moment.
Okay.
All right.
Sean Morton is our guest at the moment.
We're talking about an area right adjacent to the point from which I broadcast.
During the high desert.
In other words, Area 51 just more or less over the hill.
As it were.
Bob Crane sells something called the TV radio.
What's that?
Well, it's one of the neatest, uh, radio?
5-2 radio network.
Actually, the closest broadcast point to Area 51 in the nation that I know of.
It's good to be with you.
My guest is Sean Morton, and he's somebody who, along with a lot of other things, knows something about Area 51.
So back we go to Sean.
Sean, good evening again.
Good evening, Mark.
We are, you know, right adjacent to Area 51 here.
Yes, I know.
You're very, very close to the base.
Yes.
And I'm telling you, Sean, there are weird things in this guy.
You ever get any heat from those guys for the things you talk about on your show?
No.
No.
And if I were them, I wouldn't put heat on me because then I'd just squawk all the more.
So no, I don't expect it.
Well, you never know.
I mean, we could go silent here any time.
I could be getting hauled away by men in black or something.
Anyway, you were describing... I'll tell you, Sean, I saw a craft.
I saw a really serious craft right out here.
It was a triangle shape.
I'm sure you've heard me talk about it.
Have you seen anything like that at the base up there?
I've just seen the all we've seen is the discs or the brilliant balls of light
I do have a piece of videotape that was taken from on top of the Tropicana Hotel
in April of 1991 Are you still coming over to Area 51 or is that segment of
your life over?
Well, it's not that it's over.
There's just not... I mean, I'll explain to you what I think is going on there, and I'll just let you know some of the stuff that I'm working on that I just think is interesting.
It is my belief that a number of the... that most of the saucer technology And a lot of the really weird stuff has been actually moved out of 51 and was moved out probably around the beginning of this year.
Just to let you know what I know.
I have some very, very high sources in the government.
My dad used to be vice president of TRW and he was a public relations director for NASA.
I've got two godfathers who walked on the moon.
My Uncle Donnie was a I've got a lot of sources, guys who are ex-CIA and guys who are ex-ONI.
Basically, if I submit my questions to them in a certain way, they can find things out, give me yes or no's, and let me know what's happening.
This is, to the best of my knowledge, what's going on over there right now.
The facility itself, as I said, Dreamland or the box or Area 51 or the projects as it was also called,
was under independent control for a period of time.
Whoever was running it seemed to have executive authority.
They could pretty much do anything they want, spend any kind of money that they wanted to.
And of course many people have known about where the hangars for the saucers actually were.
It was not at Groom Lake, but there was a road that went down from it about 15 miles or so over to an area called Capoose
Lake.
I also had a huge advantage, Art, as an investigator in the first part of this whole thing, because of the fact that I had a number of people, or there were quite a few people actually running around saying that they worked at Groom Lake, that they had access to information, that they'd actually been to the facility, and I had access to being literally probably the only human being on Earth who hadn't worked there who had actually physically seen the place, because I found this mountain and it looked right down on the bay.
So for about six months or so before I started letting people know where this mountain was, and before it became a massive Nevada tourist attraction, I had the advantage of being able to talk to people and say, well, you tell me what the base looks like, and you draw me a schematic, and you tell me what's here and what's there, and I'll believe you.
So here's what I think was going on.
What happened was is that when Whoever these guys are, who seem to be above the military, who seem to have, or literally above our government, or most of the governments of the world, have access to whatever this type of technology was, there were requests, formal requests, that came from the base, to the Department of Energy, or the Atomic Energy Commission, that run the test site, and to the legitimate military at Nellis.
I mean, not even the commander at Nellis could actually go to the facility during this period of time.
And the requests were for them to turn off their radar, On Wednesday nights between about 6 p.m.
and about 1 a.m.
Of course, the military and the Department of Energy said, you know, no way, we're not going to do it.
And because of this lack of cooperation with whoever was working there, suddenly the saucers then began to test on the public side of the valley, literally below cloud cover usually.
The best nights to go out there were Wednesday nights from about 6 p.m.
until about 1 a.m.
and these things would literally test 50 to 100 feet off the ground.
They were flying right over our heads and we were videotaping them and the first time I'd ever seen a UFO in my life was when I was out there in February of 91 and one of these things swooped my car and I chased after it with a friend of mine and we got our faces nice and sunburned and were very very ill for about three days after that with very very high fever.
And then I was sold.
I was just hooked.
I wanted to get out there as much as I could and take as much video as I could and tell all my friends about it.
How good is your videotape?
It's right up close.
I've got video of the bass.
I'll send you some of the stuff if you want.
I would love it.
What about video craft?
What have you done?
A video that was taken with a 12x lens from about, uh, in the middle of a valley that was probably hovering 75 to 100 feet off the ground, uh, from about maybe 4 miles away.
Alright.
Which is not a lot when you're out in the desert.
Right.
What can you see?
I mean, I can't see the video.
You've seen... Right.
It's a big... It's a glowing disc.
The disc itself, you can see, it's a whitish-blue color.
You can see an energy field actually going around the outside of it.
It seems to be actually creating some kind of bubble, actually, around the ship.
And when you get very, very close on it, there seem to be... It looks kind of like a bat plane.
You see kind of these weird edges on it.
And it's hovering and then it moves up into the corner of the video and does a little zip and then comes down.
And as I said, it was my belief that this thing actually malfunctioned or it actually physically landed or something happened to it where it landed in the desert.
Do you think this is alien technology that we have acquired from them through some sort of deal, which is one story, or do you think this is our own technology?
Well, it's certainly possible.
I hate to comment on it because I don't know.
I can tell you that the sources that I've had from guys that were guards, from guys
that have actually been people at the facility, have said that they have seen alien beings
at the facility.
It is kind of, well, it's kind of weird because, I mean, I won't mention him by name, but one
very famous scientist who came out of the facility.
It's sort of unusual to see how his story has kind of changed from the beginning because
my documentary team interviewed him in February of 90, where Joanne Dowso and Richard Kashansky
Go ahead and name him.
Well, no, because I don't like talking negatively about people on the radio.
It's just not my thing.
But he did claim originally in his story that he had actually physically seen alien beings at the base.
And then as he became more famous, he then claimed that he never saw aliens, that he didn't see anything like it, and yet there was a story that he was working on a saucer, and that... I don't remember any claims.
I think that I know who you're talking about, and I think I've interviewed this individual a number of times.
And I don't recall any claims, Sean, that he ever saw any alien being at all.
Well, like I said, the original part of the story was that he actually, on one occasion, had actually seen something.
And there were hypnosis transcripts which... I can't get you far into this because it's not a... Like I said, it's not...
You know, it's not really negative.
It's just, uh, you know, I believe his story.
I think he's legitimate.
I think that he's changed his story slightly from that there was alien technology and that he saw an alien on the base, uh, simply because, um, you know, he got a lot more famous, and I think he was going for the credibility, and, you know, he's doing a big movie now, and it, uh, just seems to me as if, um, you know, maybe that's why the story got altered for some reason.
I, uh, I think that there's a... I think that, uh, I think that some very credible witnesses have actually physically seen alien beings at the facility.
Can you go any further with it?
In other words, what kind of deal have we made with these aliens?
I can give you what I know as far as the people that I've interviewed.
There seems to be kind of a timeline that's involved.
And the timeline involved would be Uh, starting the beginning of the modern UFO era, which a lot of people think starts with Roswell and Corona, and it doesn't really, and this is kind of a fun story if people want to check it.
But it actually starts with the Battle of Los Angeles on February 26th, Wednesday night of 1942, when a UFO actually parked itself over Culver City for a period of six hours.
The United States military bounced 14,000 rounds of ammunition off this thing's energy field.
And a photograph appeared of it on the front page of the L.A.
Times and the New York Times on February 27th, Thursday.
Front page of the newspapers.
And anybody who wants to go back and check the archives can certainly check it.
I pitched a story to Unsolved Mysteries, or this particular story to Unsolved Mysteries, which unfortunately they didn't take.
One of the witnesses in the case was actually DeForest Kelly, the fellow who plays Bones on Star Trek.
Right.
Uh, created these huge holes in the top of their houses and 14 people were killed in car accidents because there was a blackout of Los Angeles at the time, and the military would never admit what the object was, would never say that we were directly being attacked by the Japanese.
So from then until the crashes in Oswald and Corona, and it is my belief that those crashes occurred, that there were two ships That we're traveling in tandem that ran into a microwave grid that was being thrown up by the RX-27 microwave powers in Tacoma, New Mexico.
The microwave grid did something to damage the anti-matter engines of the craft.
One of them exploded, leaving all of the debris in Mac Brazel's field.
Uh, the other one, uh, got a big hole in it from the, uh, the other craft exploding, and then crashed in Corona, that we were able to actually pick up, um, uh, an, uh, an alien being, that, uh, a number of them actually did survive.
Uh, the story then goes that, uh, from this, We made some kind of deal that there was a trade, an exchange of ambassadors, so to speak.
These creatures seemed to be at the end of a genetic breeding curve.
They needed genetic material.
They wanted access to this planet to come and go as they pleased, since we now had certain technology to actually shoot them down.
And we pretty much fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
And the whole thing began about 1955.
And, uh, actually about 53.
And then there's the whole story about Eisenhower.
That, uh, Eisenhower was swept away from, uh, uh, to Edwards Air Force Base during a golf game.
Uh, that there was a meeting with Eisenhower with a number of these alien beings and the ship itself.
That apparently the scientists were just comatose.
They couldn't imagine the fact that they... We felt that we had the highest technology anywhere in the universe, and now here these beings were flying their ships around, totally shocking our religious people and our scientific people.
That there was an official exchange of ambassadors, literally that scene that you saw at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, supposedly actually took place at Area 51, back in 1955, at that big bowl-shaped valley where the Groom Lake facility was, and a ship physically came down.
And that the agreement was that they could pretty much, that they could, uh, so long as they provided us with lists of people that were to be abducted, and that the people that abducted, that were abducted, were not harmed, that their memories were wiped, and that they were put back, uh, pretty much at the exact same place where they found them.
Everything would be fine.
Dude, what a story.
Do you believe all that?
Uh, I'm, I'm about 90% sure that that's, that that's what's going on, and that that's what happened.
That they're, It seems to be some kind of... I mean, I've worked with a lot of abductees, and they're picked up.
They're not harmed physically.
That's one of the reasons why we have so much hypnotic material coming out.
But Hopkins' book and John Mack's book has not been really because the aliens have been meaning to harm these people.
It's because they haven't wanted them to remember the experience.
So they put up a hypnotic shield and then it's sort of like my pushing you out of an airplane
and you having the horrified experience of being pushed out of an airplane and then hypnotizing
you as if it never happened. The physical body has a cellular or sense memory of certain completely
horrific events and human beings react in a very funny way and you know they get bothered by things
they see certain things they think of the trigger memories and eventually begin to go psychotic
because you've got this this horrifically terrifying experience that's now being covered
by a hypnotic mask trying to fight its way to consciousness trying to fight its way to
consciousness and now you're seeing uh you know in all of the material that's coming out now on
abductions I mean it's just become a a mass phenomenon the the people I guess to which you
say they feed the stompers or the non-believers will say well this whole abduction phenomenon is
just the same it's just leprechauns and fairies and goblins and ghouls and uh you know it used
to be these things and now it's just little green men Well, my attitude is, well, if it used to be these things hundreds of years ago,
And we're simply renaming the phenomenon.
Doesn't this show you that the phenomenon has been going on not just for 40 years, but possibly for hundreds of years?
Alright, you mentioned a kind of a genetic memory, and I'm beginning to feel that myself, Sean, that there's some sort of...
Collective memory that human beings have.
And lately, Sean, we have been getting prediction after prediction after prediction of disaster and trouble on the way.
And a lot of people have the quiet sense, and I'm one of them, that something big is coming.
Don't know what, just have a feeling that we're on the edge.
And do you have that sense?
Oh, absolutely.
And it's one of the reasons why Back in 1992, I wrote my book, The Millennium Factor, because we're coming to the end of so many cycles, and there's so many things that are pointing to the next 30 years as being possibly the most heroic and yet the most tragic period in the history of mankind.
Sounds interesting.
Let's hear a little bit of it, in other words, what's coming.
Okay, let me do this.
Let me just finish off with the information that I've got on 51, because I figured you guys would be real interested in that.
You're right.
Okay, just to polish this off, and I'm going to be talking about this at the UFO Expo tomorrow, what I thought was is that because of the massive publicity, because of people like me going out there and physically seeing what was going on, because they were taking a lot of heat for what was going on out there, Um, I got information that the saucers were to be moved in late 1993.
That the saucers were to be moved, Area 51 was going back into the hands of the legitimate military, that they had in fact received a multi-billion dollar infusion of funds.
We were up there on the hill watching them extend the runway from I think about three and a half miles, almost five miles, laying, uh, wire, literally cable down into the runway so that it's wider, it's longer, and it's much stronger. There have been a number of new
buildings that have gone up, and they've increased the troop strength there probably by
50 percent or so. There's about 2,500 new guys there. What do you think they're giving them
to do? Um, I think a lot of it has to do with the with the Secret Moon program.
I know that we're going, the legitimate military is actually putting together a secret moon shot which is called Operation Clementine.
I think a lot of what has been going on with Groom Lake, and I know this is going to sound like a wild statement, but I can tell you that I know this for a fact, that we have bases on the moon.
We've got guys up there We've got stuff going on on the back side of the moon.
We've got four locations in King Crater, Tico Brahe, Van de Graaff, and Sarasvloski.
Those two are on the back side of the moon.
Did you hear Richard Hoagland the other night?
No, I haven't gotten a chance to.
I really want to hear what he has to say, and I haven't had a chance to get caught up in what he's saying.
A lot of what you're saying ties into what he said.
Well, we have facilities up there.
I have a photograph that was taken from the NASA archives of an object that looks exactly like the Aurora as it appeared on the front cover of Popular Science Magazine, except this photograph, this object, is parked on the Moon and was taken by Apollo 11 in 1969.
And it gives you an idea of how far ahead they are.
So, from the information that I've got now, um, the majority of what was going on as far as the secret stuff in, at Area 51, and I have yet to check this because I just got the information about two days ago, has all been moved to a place called Pax River, Maryland.
And I don't even know if there is such a place as Pax River, Maryland, but, uh, supposedly it's a, it's an underground facility, it could just be the codename for the facility as opposed to an actual location, but that Groom Lake is actually going to become now, um, Basically back in the hands of the military, which is why... And this is the weird part, is that when they're testing saucers, I mean, they didn't care.
They barely had any security out there at all when they were flying the flying saucers right over our heads.
But now that they're flying stealth bombers and, you know, YF-22s and all kinds of really secret stuff, you know, legit military stuff, now the whole military kicks into gear.
And that was another reason why you had Wackenhut private security guarding Area 51 and not what was called VSCO, the Defense Strategic Command Organization.
Yes, correct.
Is Wackenhut still guarding?
I don't know.
That's the one piece of information I need to find out.
If their security has gone back to legitimate military and gone out of the hands of Wackenhut, Then you know that something hasn't changed.
I don't go out there as much as I did simply because there's not as much happening.
Now, on Encounters, the one thing that we are going to cover is that There have been reports, and I've got some videotape on this, that have been taken by some friends who've been out there, that the stuff that is actually being handled, that if there is any saucer stuff going on still out there, that the only way it can be seen, and this is a hint for all you Area 51 watchers, is you need second generation night scope equipment.
And if you went out there, if you go out there with infrared and night scope, Apparently, from this video, the people standing in the video didn't know what was going on.
The camera was set up in such a way, there was a video camera with a night scope on it.
No one was looking at it, it was just pointing at the sky.
But there were these disc-shaped objects moving all around, relatively close.
Some softer stuff going on out there, and that would make total sense.
If it's a surveillance and reconnaissance project, Whoever was flying those things didn't look like they knew how.
I mean, they were zipping back and forth, and the one that I saw that was real low was sort of bumping into Joshua trees and what have you.
Really?
You think it was on with job training and technology?
It's possible.
It would make sense.
I mean, that's why they would test on a Wednesday, pilots, and...
The pilots were usually out partying or getting drunk on the weekends or what have you.
So Monday was the day that they would lay out the mission specs for the week.
Tuesday was what they called nuts and bolts day where they got to look over the shoulders of the engineers and make sure the gauges were working and everything was working right.
Wednesday, everybody got together and bonded and sort of swapped stories and everybody flew home.
Why do you know an awful lot about this?
Well, because my dad used to do it.
He used to work out at that facility and they used to fly him down from Reno to go work there.
So, and that was back when it was, once again, legit military, back when Edwards Air Force Base was Murloc, and, you know, he used to fly with Gus Grissom and Gordon Cooper and, you know, Alan Shepard and Don Isley and, you know, the whole, all those NASA-Gemini friendship Apollo guys.
All right.
Sean, hang tight for a second.
Sean Morton is my guest, and we'll be right back.
Uh, correct.
I think a lot of the saucers, or at least the physical stuff, has actually been moved to, as I said, that site I was talking about in Maryland, and possibly a lot of things in Idaho.
But I'm still working on it.
When I find out exactly where it's all been moved, I'll start going out and taking a look at it, and this whole thing will start all over again.
Do you think wherever it is right now, it is going to continue?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yes.
Because it has a lot to do with, like I said, we've set up an entire moon program.
I believe we do have bases that go back and forth to the moon.
On that note, we're going to have to pause for the news at the top of the hour.
We'll be back.
Okay.
Sean Morton, stay right where you are.
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If you're not satisfied, you get 100% money back here in... A large number of Nostradamus' prophecies about the year 2000 and beyond.
And I'm not saying that the world is going to end in the year 2000.
I'm saying that there are going to be some very great wars.
That there's going to be massive conflict across the globe and that mankind is going to fight one last long war where all of the negative forces can be literally swept together so they can be crushed once and for all.
And after that phase we have a rebuilding period in civilization which is going to lead, I believe, to a Absolutely marvelous, very amazing new world.
But, you know, Santa Claus isn't going to come and give it to us.
We're going to have to look for it.
This is very, very hard.
All right.
You mentioned volcanoes.
On through California and on up into Washington, what do they have to look forward to?
Well, right now, in my meditations, and I'm sitting here and I'm looking at a map of the United States right in front of me.
In my meditations, and you've heard a lot of things over the last couple of days about June 16th and about June 9th and what have you.
What I'm saying is, I'm saying that San Diego is very hot.
In my last newsletter, which was the 15th of May, I talked about quakes in San Diego specifically, and aftershocks in Los Angeles, with my date being the 24th.
Well, I hit it right on in the last newsletter.
There were three earthquakes in San Diego on the 23rd, and then there was a 4.5 aftershock in Los Angeles right on the 24th.
Southern California is actually fairly calm right now.
What I am seeing, however, is I'm seeing pressure beginning to build up near Vallejo and up in San Francisco.
Nothing huge, but there will be, I believe within about the next two weeks, a quake of note in the San Francisco area, specifically around the Vallejo, Santa Rosa, Navajo area.
The area that's very, very hot at the moment is Klamath Falls and Bend, Oregon.
Really?
And remember that when you have quakes in the center part of Northern California moving up through Oregon and eventually culminating right at Mount Rainier.
Mount Rainier sits on the top of a large earthquake flue, or should I say, I'm sorry, a volcano flue.
And there is a huge amount of magma, a magma bubble, which volcanists call a pluton, that's making its way up towards the surface.
And as this pluton, which is very, very large, begins to make its way up towards the surface, It's going to do one of two things.
It's either going to cause cracks in the Earth's surface, which is going to cause much, much greater volcanoes.
I'm sorry, earthquakes.
Or the pressure has to be relieved via a volcano.
Now, this side of the planet is actually naturally very, very hot.
That's why it's called the Ring of Fire.
There is a great deal of validity to the fact that Mount Rainier is getting ready to go.
And if Mount Rainier goes, this would fall in directly to the Indian prophecy which talked about when little sister speaks, big brother will answer.
Little sister specifically being Mount St.
Helens blowing in May of 1980.
Uh, if Mount Rainier goes, Mount Rainier has the potential of causing a great deal more damage.
The weak side of Mount Rainier faces Seattle.
Uh, the mountain's about 14,000 feet high with a very, very large mantle around the outside of it, which is ice and rock with a lot of trapped gases.
Uh, there's been earthquake activity at the base of Mount Rainier.
I've been hearing rumors about venting and that sort of thing on, on Rainier.
Have you heard any of that joke?
Yes, it's, it's vented quite a few times in just the last three to four months.
Matter of fact, it's considered The most dangerous volcano in the northern hemisphere by geologists.
I don't know how much they're actually going to tell the people.
I know that two months ago there was a vent of steam that rose very, very high.
There have been a large number of quakes in the one and a half to two and a half range.
Dan Davis put it very well because it was one of his predictions that a 5.4 quake The, uh, would occur somewhere in the Seattle area directly before the eruption of Mount Rainier, and I would agree with that particular trigger.
Mount Rainier has the potential, if it blows, of literally dumping enough ash and enough
soot and enough junk into the atmosphere that it could quite conceivably lower the temperature
of the North American continent by almost three degrees.
Wow.
Now, Mount Pinatubo, all the way in the Philippines, lowered the temperature of North America by
one degree.
And you're now seeing all of the winters that have occurred all across the Midwest and all
in the East and all the killer winters that you've had there have been a direct relation
to not only Mount Pinatubo, but the fact that the Earth's magnetic pole is beginning to
shift.
It's already shifted about one and a half to almost two degrees.
You're having, as a matter of fact, out where you are, and up in Reno and Lake Tahoe, with a lot of Canadian geese now settling in that area.
That's right.
Because they think it's Canada now.
Because the magnetic poles have actually shifted.
And we're getting now, in the Midwest, all of the winters that Siberia used to get.
I had R.W.
Whitfield on the program.
He thought the magnetic poles would shift, there would be one very quick shift.
Do you agree with that?
Um, it's possible.
It seems to be shifting very gradually now.
However, there does seem to be, in what I see in my visions, I don't see the planet flipping all the way over, as many people see.
I don't think, unless there is a meteor, and the visions that I've had are that there is a meteor that strikes the Earth, but it's very, very far off in the distant future.
Well, it's like 20... Do you know where it strikes?
Pardon me?
Do you know where it strikes?
I have a vision that it strikes in the Atlantic Ocean, in the northern part of the Atlantic Ocean, and inundates Europe virtually almost immediately.
All right.
I've heard others say it will strike in Nevada.
I just wanted to be sure that that wasn't where you thought it was going to strike.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I mean, it could hit anywhere, but... Well, that's true.
All right.
Sean, hold on.
We're at the bottom of the hour.
Sean Morton is my guest.
And at least one guest who says it will not be Nevada that evaporates in a meteor strike or whatever.
For that I'm thankful.
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