Art Bell’s Coast to Coast AM features Preston Nichols discussing the Montauk Project, a controversial "Philadelphia Experiment 2" with ties to Bill Clinton’s alleged involvement in murder and drug trafficking. Callers debate $2 cigarette tax black market risks, China’s MFN status amid human rights concerns, and Denny’s $46M racial discrimination settlement, questioning systemic bias. A flesh-eating E. coli/Streptococcus outbreak in Britain—killing six in 24 hours—sparks skepticism about official reassurances, while a St. Louis police program requiring parental consent for home searches divides listeners. Nichols’ unproven claims clash with caller frustrations over Clinton’s credibility, and a Hawaii caller introduces the Ultimatum Resolution, a radical debt solution. Bell’s wide-ranging show blends conspiracy theories, political debates, and fringe science, leaving listeners to weigh evidence against skepticism in an era of perceived government overreach and spiritual decline. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest.
I bid you good evening.
Good morning in some areas.
And welcome to that first and or last hour of Coast to Coast A.M. P.M. Which is what I guess I have to call it at this hour.
There's not really much choice, is there?
Well, good evening, everybody, or good morning.
There's a lot of news to talk about.
I've got a little bit of station keeping to do first, though, and I think you'll enjoy this.
Coming up this Friday night, Saturday morning, will be a man whose name is Preston Nichols.
And he will take up the story where Al Bielick left off.
Preston Nichols authored a book with Al Belick entitled The Montauk Project.
And he will be here at 11 p.m. on Saturday morning.
Friday night, Saturday morning's program.
So I guess it would be the Philadelphia Experiment 2 for us.
But it'll be a new angle on it.
Preston Nichols, who also was involved in the Philadelphia Experiment.
That'll be Friday night, Saturday morning, and I know a lot of you are going to look forward to that.
Well, I see that former Surgeon General Bearded One, Dr. Coop, and President Carter are calling on the President to initiate, begin a $2 per pack tax on cigarettes.
Great, guys.
Great.
And they're going to try and pressure the President to go for the $2 per pack tax.
Maybe one of them or both will go on a hunger strike, once again establishing more U.S. policy.
And here's a little note from Seattle, Washington that I thought was appropriate under the circumstances.
Thought, they can have my cigarettes when they pry them from my cold, dead lips.
Keep it up, says Mike number 11.
Mike number 11 in Seattle.
At any rate, there it is.
Coop and Carter, the C brothers, want us to have a $2 per pack tax on cigarettes.
Also, down in Phoenix, Doc Berry, longtime caller, talk radio pro, I guess you'd call him, Doc Berry, quite liberal, but we've always had a lot of fun sparring back and forth, and I know he can hear me down in Phoenix now on KFYI, sent me a little box with two rolls of fax paper included, which I thought was very nice of Doc Berry to do.
It was supposed to be in America's past, but here it is now.
30 years ago, they wrote the civil rights law, and in it they provided great big penalties, financial ones, for companies that discriminate.
At any rate, Denny's will pay millions, 46 of them, that's a big, big suit, to victims of racial discrimination.
It will be distributed to black customers of Denny's.
It is the largest settlement in history.
So that's not a trivial matter, the biggest settlement in history.
The government says it sends a message, and it does.
Six black Secret Service agents in Maryland on their way to provide security for the president stopped in at Denny's and had to sit there and sit there and sit there while others were served.
They will each individually receive $35,000 from the settlement.
1,000 others apparently have filed complaints that range from having to pay for food in advance, which is certainly an insult, or having to wait for a table, or having to pay some kind of cover charge to get in in the first place.
Well, I'll tell you, Denny's will take many corrective steps.
They're going to provide all kinds of sensitivity training and such for their employees.
And you have to wonder whether racial prejudice ever really is going to end in America, indeed the world.
It is obviously still there, and it's pretty ugly stuff.
The trade center, the four defendants in the bombing of the trade center in New York, were sentenced yesterday, and they will never see the light of day again.
Six Islamic fundamentalists, terrorists, got forever, plus.
Or do you think there's going to be now a lot more terrorism in the United States?
China, MFN, will it be canceled because of human rights violations?
American-style capitalism is flourishing.
It's everywhere in China.
But human rights violations are everywhere in China, too.
As a matter of fact, China has more in prison for political crimes than even one year ago.
And you may recall during the campaign, President Clinton criticized President Bush for doing business in essence with the devil.
And Mr. Clinton proclaimed proudly in an executive order that he would never do any such thing and laid out seven criterion for China to meet they have not.
And so the question is, do you think that President Clinton will, to avoid embarrassment, personal embarrassment, of course, do you suppose the president will cancel the MFN, take the high road the way he said he would when he was battling against George Bush?
Or is he going to take what will appear to be the low road, though it would be the right road, and renew MFN for China in Chicago, something pretty weird happened.
Now, I know that all of you, just about all of you, certainly those who have fax machines, have seen one variety or another of the big practical joke that was going around called the new math or a math test for Los Angeles or whatever it was.
It was a joke.
It was the one that began, and I read part of one once on the air here as a joke, that began, quote, Johnny has an AK-47 with a 40-round clip.
If he misses six out of ten shots and shoots 13 times at each drive-by shooting, how many drive-by shootings can he attend before he has to reload?
Well, it is just one of those joke things.
If you have a fax machine, or if you ever get one, you will quickly find out these things like stuff passed out at the office.
They make their rounds on the fax circuit.
And so that's all it was.
Well, sure enough, some sixth grade teacher in Chicago handed this test out to a bunch of sixth graders.
It asked questions like the one I read to you about drive-by shootings, prostitution, drugs.
Parents are outraged, and the teacher may be fired.
They're in the process of trying to do that.
He thought that it was a good way.
I guess he knew it was a joke, but he thought somehow it would get him closer to the kids.
Well, they're going to fire him.
At least they're going to try.
And I wonder if you think this teacher ought to be canned for doing that.
I mean, the parents were going wild.
They were saying, my God, when I was young, we had little math tests about bananas or this or that, whatever it was.
You remember the school texts and books.
And here this guy hands out something like this, and the parents went ballistic, of course.
Well, Mexico is in some deep turmoil.
NBC did a story in Mexico yesterday.
PRI party there has never lost a presidential election.
It just might this time.
There, of course, was the revolt in Chiapas, the bombings they've had down there.
The PRI nominee, as you know, was assassinated up in Tijuana.
There was allegedly ballot fraud in the last election.
The next one comes up in three months in Mexico.
Mexico is at a very critical juncture indeed.
They will either move toward democracy or, in my opinion, have a revolution.
The Mexican economy on the plus side is improving thanks to NAFTA.
As a matter of fact, they did quite a significant story on it.
Listen carefully here, Chuck Arter.
We now have 50% of the Mexican car market.
Ford is beginning to sell cars in Mexico like it's going out of style.
And so you may want to rethink the way you feel about NAFTA.
So far, no great negative effects that can be documented here, certainly, despite all the fears of those.
And it looks as though both countries are beginning to prosper.
Ford certainly is.
The American car companies producing a better product are now beginning to show a profit.
And so it looks as though it's so far, anyway, turning out pretty well.
Surprise, surprise.
NBC did a two-hour special last night on a subject that I found riveting, fascinating, interesting.
It was entitled Angels: The Mysterious Messengers.
And I did a program not long ago on Guardian Angels on Dreamland.
And this should have been on the air before I did the one on Dreamland, but it wasn't.
There were stories told from World War I right on through today about angels intervening, entities, if you will, which step in at a moment of stress or mortal danger or death, and they seem to walk in on all ages, all walks of life.
One woman, I tell you, my spine began the old familiar tingle at the story of one particular woman who was about to go into a building, and she said, I felt a hand on my shoulder trying to stop me.
And I kept going, and she got up near the steps of the building.
And she said, and the hand came back to my shoulder and held it hard and held me back and said, I wouldn't go in there right now or just at this moment.
Well, she didn't.
Instead, she went across the street to a church and once again was spoken to by this angel.
When she walked back outside, there were ambulances and police cars all over the place.
And across the street, in the building to which she was going to go, there had just been a murder.
A woman had been killed in an elevator.
So there you've got it.
I thought we would talk a little bit about angels if any of you happen to catch that.
Do you conclude after watching that program that angels are real, real, or are they some sort of hallucination brought on by stressful times?
Certainly, when you're close to dying, it would be called a very stressful time, wouldn't it?
So, Dr. Coop and President Carter want to raise the price of cigarettes by $2 per pack, huh?
Just what I wanted to hear this morning.
And then this I read to you yesterday, and I want to touch on it again because we should have pulled a lot more from this story than we did.
The Clinton administration is working on creating an identification card that every American is going to need to interact with any federal government agency.
The card initiative came into the forefront at last month's Card Tech Secure Tech Conference in Crystal City, Virginia, as federal agencies, including the U.S. Postal Service and the IRS, began detailing their various proposals.
At the gathering where security experts convened to discuss business and government applications for, quote, smart card and PCMCIA memory card technologies, the Postal Service presented a proposal for a general-purpose U.S. services smart card,
which individuals and companies would use to authenticate their identities when sending and receiving email, transferring funds, and interacting with various government agencies.
Sources close to the administration said President Clinton is also considering signing a pair of executive orders that would facilitate the connection if individuals' bank accounts and federal records to a government identification card.
White House officials declined comment.
The Postal Service U.S. card would use either smart cards, plastic cards that carry a unique number that can be read by a scanner and linked to computerized records stored on a network, or what are called PCMIA cards, which can contain megabytes of personal information.
And so my question from this, in other words, if we are all to get a card that will allow us to interact favorably with the federal government, if it were to stop fraud,
welfare fraud, just about any kind of fraud you can name, and there's plenty of it we all know, if it could stop illegal immigration by giving you identification as a U.S. citizen and many other problems, would you accept one of these cards?
Well, there is, though it was a federal crime, and I suppose technically they might have received it.
I know there's no death penalty in New York.
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I know, but if the crime bill establishes a death penalty for any foreign terrorists that come to America, the United States of America, and kill Americans, then that would take precedence over what New York has.
Well, that's true, and I too think it ought to be that way.
Six people lost their lives, a thousand injured, property damage you can't believe.
Yes, I think it would be justified.
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And they could be in prison for a while, and some of their buddies could hijack or skyjack a Boeing 747 in Europe and start shooting passengers until we release them.
The mark of the beast goes on your right hand or forehead.
One other thing I wanted to mention.
At Jackie Kennedy's funeral yesterday, I saw John John John Jr., John Kennedy Jr., reading from the Bible, and do you know he read that exact part that describes the rapture?
Okay, it says something to the fact that the Lord Jesus shall descend from heaven to the clouds of earth, and the dead shall rise up first, and then the living shall be caught up with them in the clouds, and there they shall meet Jesus and be with him forever.
Do you think he was hallucinating in some moment of mortal stress?
And certainly it would have been that.
What do you believe?
Angels real or just the concoction of a stressed mind?
I don't know.
There was a story also on the program last night about a little girl, a little girl who was dying of cancer, and she'd gone through the usual chemotherapy, I'm sure, and radiation therapy, and you know, the god-awful stuff they put you through.
And her body was wrecked.
And she was in the process of dying, and everybody knew it.
And she was visited by a series of angels, a whole series of angels.
And the angels took her to heaven and showed her what it was going to be like.
And then finally, one angel came, which assisted her, she said, or was going to, or I guess did assist her in dying.
And so do you believe in all that stuff, or is it the concoction of a mind facing something that is so fearful, so unknown, that the mind itself, the id, concocts a story that it will be comfortable with?
The thing you were talking about, about that card the government wants us to have.
How come everyone is so concerned about welfare fraud, about illegal immigrants, and they're not concerned about the white middle-class people who avoid their taxes, the white middle-class people who abuse their children.
They're always after the minorities.
They're always after the lower classes.
And they do all these little things.
They get cards to make sure that no one's cheap.
But they do nothing to protect people from the upper, you know, the upper classes who are cheating and doing the same things because they have all the money.
I think there are a lot more hurtful things going on in our society.
There are people manufacturing bombs.
There's a military that is supporting something like the School of the Americas.
There are some really hurtful things going on in our country, more than some illegal aliens who are coming so they can send money back to their families in places like Mexico so their families can survive.
Why don't we protect ourselves against the corporations who are embezzling money?
I mean, why are we so concerned about the lower classes and so concerned about minorities?
Well, I know you can serve it up the way you are, which is a compassionate way.
But in fact, if you look at all the money we spend, about two-thirds of it to three-quarters goes for the kind of programs that you're talking about, a big part of our budget.
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But doesn't a big part of our budget go for the defense, too?
Well, defense has been scaled back drastically, and it's continuing to go down.
No, most of our budget goes for social programs and paying back the debt that we've incurred.
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But does that mean that a lot of people who are in the upper class in our society, maybe because their money is private or in private corporations, why do we excuse that so much?
Why do we excuse white middle-class crime?
Or why don't we feel it's that important to go after?
Well, I'll tell you, most revolutions that have occurred in the world occur when the middle class, the great middle class, is no longer more or less satisfied.
Revolutions rarely occur where you have a big middle class in any society.
So it will eventually take care of itself.
If things get too far out of proportion, there will be a revolution.
If the middle class basically gets too unhappy, there will be a revolution.
And I suppose it's a self-correcting process.
Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.
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Well, thanks.
And the other thing I want to throw out, maybe to listeners, is the concept of a single-payer health care plan, what people think about that.
Well, why would it not be reasonable to assume that it is a protective mechanism of the mind, which is not at that moment looking for negative, but any way in the world out?
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The mind, physiologically, would have to assume that there is no way out.
And so once it makes that assumption, it must enter into another dimension of reality.
I think that much of the world is like our physical, much of ourselves is like our physical world, you know, where there's all this huge 75% is ocean and man lives on 25% of land.
I think we're 75% spiritual, but we focus so much on our bodies, on all these negative illegal aliens.
They're just people, you know?
But I don't know.
I'm pretty sure that it's real because of the effect that it has on people's lives.
And that when the mind is so convinced of death and destruction, and yet still it results in life and hope, then you have to give it some credence, even if you can't measure it.
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We don't screen calls here.
We just take them as they come in.
And I don't know too many others that do that.
But it's a fun way to do it, and they don't know what they're missing.
All right.
We've got a lot to talk about this morning, and I'll brush you up on it because I know a lot of you are just joining at this hour.
And I've got a fax here from Doc Berry that I want to read.
He sent me several on this subject, and he's referencing my comments on the cutback of the military.
And he says, you did it again, telling a caller that we have cut back on the military drastically.
The defense budget has been cut by less than 7%.
You keep repeating a lie that drastic and huge cuts in defense have happened.
You lie to your audience, and you keep doing it.
Doc Berry, Phoenix.
No, Doc, I have a very different take on it.
And I do think that the military has been cut back on drastically.
And I have a lot of reasons to believe that, Doc.
I think the figure is more like 25% than 7% in terms of budget cutback.
In terms of actual cutback in the military, believe me, Doc, we have cut way back.
Look at the base closures.
Look at the early retirements.
Look at the people that are just being discharged for the good of the service or at the convenience of the service.
No, Doc, I think we have cut back drastically.
And I firmly believe that.
And I think we're going to find out.
I hope we don't find out.
But I have a deep fear, and I'm telling you the truth now, that if we get involved in Korea, which I'm afraid is ultimately inevitable, this administration is going to put it off for as long as they can, raising the price ultimately, in my opinion.
But when we finally get involved in Korea, somebody's going to open up a second front, somebody like Saddam Hussein or the Colonel or somebody or another is going to do it.
Then we'll find out.
There's news this morning that Dr. Coop, the bearded one, and President Carter are getting together to urge the president to pressure the president.
Who knows, maybe they'll even go on a hunger strike.
To raise the price of cigarettes $2 a pack.
$2 a pack on top of what they already cost.
And I got this little letter that I thought was so appropriate from somebody in Seattle, just a note, Art.
I hear you on KBI, Hot Talk Seattle.
Love it.
Call but can't get through.
Thought, they can have my cigarettes when they pry them from my cold, dead lips.
Keep it up, Mike number 11.
By the way, does anybody have any more news?
I went off the air yesterday trying to find out about that disease in England that so many of you were telling me about, and I can't find it on CNN.
I can't find it on the wire services.
I just can't find out anything about it.
But that's not unusual for this kind of a story, is it?
Tell you what we're mostly talking about this morning.
The news on Denny's, of course, the $46 million Denny's has got to pay to their black customers.
The Trade Center sentencing.
Those four terrorists are going away forever and ever.
Most favored nation treatment for China.
That's been one.
You know that fax joke that was going around about the new math test?
Well, guess what?
A teacher in Chicago gave it to a bunch of sixth graders.
The unrest in Mexico, but mostly we have been taught.
Oh, and about the card.
The card, the Clinton administration, apparently is considering issuing to everybody in America.
One people, one card.
And the U.S. Postal Service, as a matter of fact, has made a presentation about distributing the national identity cards.
It would stop many ills, illegal immigration, many other problems, fraud of all kinds.
It is a card you would use whenever you, it would be your Fed card.
That's right, the Fed card.
Maybe that's what they ought to call it, the Fed card.
Maybe I've just coined it.
It would take care of many things, but a lot of people think it would be the mark of the beastie.
And so you may want to comment on that.
And the show on angels has received all kinds of comment.
I saw it on NBC.
I hope you did.
It was called Angels, the Mysterious Messengers.
And it documented all the way from World War I right on through today times when people have been visited by angels, certainly on the battlefield, in hospital rooms, at accident scenes, to the dying.
All kinds of incidents in which angels have intervened.
Do you believe it?
Or do you think it is the trick of a mind faced with a mortal situation?
Eminently mortal.
I don't know.
You tell me.
All right, so that's kind of a catch-up on what we've been talking about.
Well, here in Bakersfield today, our news station put on a segment where an NBC cameraman, actually who I personally know, he's an American Indian, I believe.
We went into Denny's and he had to prepay for his meal.
Yeah, that's one of the complaints, and some of the people who file complaints and lawsuits will get a piece of that money.
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You know, I just can't believe because there's certain Denny's my husband and I happen to frequent all the time at all hours of the night, and him and I actually have a certain amount of Indian blood in us, and I'm sure a lot of people do.
I just can't believe that in this day and age, this is going on.
Dreamland is kind of a pet of mine because these are areas that I'm really struggling with and I have been for years and they're areas that are fascinating to me.
There must be something after this life.
On balance, I believe there is.
It's evidence, certainly, that demands a verdict, isn't it?
All of these areas, things that we don't know about.
Things that we may not know about only because of the great noise level of the day every day.
Either the human mind once used a lot more of its brain and now is actually using less, kind of depressing, or the other way around, that we are progressing, that evolution continues with the hand of God, thank you, and that we will eventually use more and more of our brain.
That's a more pleasant one to believe.
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That's maybe the more pleasant that I tend to agree with the first, that at one time, you know, if you believe in a literal translation, that at one time man did have that full use and capacity of his brain.
One thing I might uh leave with you about that is uh just, the Bible says to behold the firmament, because it uh shows the handiwork of God right, and uh also, I'd like to talk about the uh, what your quote-unquote the card.
The card yeah uh, I don't know if it's specifically necessary to have a card now.
I mean, like here in Kansas, they're issuing uh license, driver's licenses that have your uh social security number on them.
Well, here it's even a little stranger than that everybody objected to social security numbers being on driver's licenses in Nevada.
So you know what they did.
They came up with this formula um, and they said, all right, here's your new number.
It is not your social security number, but there is a mathematical formula, a little addition and subtraction you can do, and when you do it uh, you get the person's social security number.
In other words, these days, if you've got a job or you've got a loan or you've got financial dealings of any magnitude at all you, your social security number is registered.
Well, in other words, she was complaining about the card and she was saying, look, Why are we always going after the people who might be cheating on welfare or the people at the lower strata one way or the other, taking advantage of the system, when we have all these corporations?
according to her, ripping everybody off?
Why don't we go after that crime?
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Okay, well, instead of not paying your taxes, right, if people like thinking about doing that, how about like fighting the waste?
Now, I feel a lot better now because just like today, okay, I was, well, it happened on Friday, but today I took care of the problem.
I think I did anyway.
I tried to help this woman, okay?
She said she had no food, and she was trying to sell me food stamps.
And then she says, well, I got some stuff I want to sell, some movies, okay?
So I said, fine, I'll buy you movies.
good to go okay so I said you know in other words to make a long story short she ripped me off okay Now, I found out that she's the one for sure with proof that she ripped me off.
CNN today carried a story of a sci-fi-like E. coli virus that killed six people in, I believe, Scotland.
Death within 24 hours of contraction.
It liquidates one inch of muscle or fat per hour.
They have been amputating limbs in a futile attempt to stop it.
This is even more eerie to me than an atomic war.
Is it possible this is ecologically produced or released by accident from one of these experimental labs that really don't exist?
Yes, Joe.
It's possible.
And I had not heard the details of that story, but God, that's horrifying.
So if any of the rest of you can confirm the essential facts of the story I just read you, I would appreciate it.
But that sounds pretty frightening.
Not with a bang, but with a whimper, right?
And then there is this.
Hello, Art.
I heard on the radio today that the St. Louis police have initiated a new crime prevention program whereby the officers are doing door-to-door in poor neighborhoods, door-to-door, asking the residents to sign a paper giving them permission to have their homes searched.
Ostensibly, the police are searching for guns.
It was reported that the people are being told that if they refuse to sign the release allowing their homes to be searched, they should be aware of the fact their names will be on a list and they will be watched.
Is this true?
I have a lot of listeners in St. Louis, and I want to know if this is true.
So there are a couple of more terribly important items for you to comment on.
I have one of those telephones that when you pick up, well, the radio goes off, so I had to go out to the car and get my portable because I couldn't get through for two hours.
Well, maybe, but, you know, if they do this, I'm sure they're going to have to figure a way to stop the black market from the reservations, aren't they?
I don't know what you're talking about because you don't come on here for another 20 minutes or so.
Oh.
But anyway, what I was going to get at, we seem to have a problem in the U.S.
We got too many people on the right, like yourself, too many people on the left, like myself, who don't want to come to a happy medium, come to the middle.
Unfortunately, I voted for Mr. Clinton, and I am a Democrat, and I'm a liberal.
And I haven't been real happy with everything he's done so far.
Yeah, in America, sir, we do that every time we get into a period of peace or generally following a war.
As soon as you can forget about what it was like, you begin cutting back, and it's always peace in our time.
And I think that same thing is going on right now, and it's dangerous.
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It's extremely dangerous.
And you have some fringes out here that want to take away all, to me, what appears to be all of our constitutional rights.
Then you have other people who want to go so far as to take up arms and virtually destroy the Constitution by going to Washington, what was it you said the other night in September, and go off the deep end arresting people or putting them on trial when they have no authority to do this.
Everybody who would fight our government one way or the other and the government, in other words, every side in what would amount to a war would claim they're doing it for the Constitution.
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You know, you once took an oath to uphold the Constitution.
No matter how screwy some of our leaders may be, I've still got to go with that.
In closing, I'd like to say I don't agree with everything you have to say, but I don't agree with a lot of the lunatics like Charlie and some of the other people you have called have to say either.
But I really enjoy your show, and just wish you came on here when you came on the line.
Normally, I hate missing two or three hours of your show each night.
Actually, I was the guy, I think, who brought it up.
Or, in other words, are we devolving?
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Yeah, I think we are.
I think all the major religions, if you study religion at all, teach that, you know, Hinduism talks about the Kali Yuga.
We're in the dark age right now.
Christianity talks about the end of the world, you know, as far as the Buddhism has the same kind of things, and American Indians have the same kind of things.
I think, you know, all the traditional religions point to that, that kind of de-evolution.
I don't think evolution's ever been proven.
The one thing that people seem to be getting into, well, the one guy that wrote the book Genesis revisited.
I would like to think we're beginning to use more brain capacity, that our spirits and our spiritual natures are getting greater and not lesser, and all the positive stuff.
unidentified
Well, you know, I don't know.
It's like being in a warehouse kind of store tonight and looking at all the manufactured goods and the technology and such.
And it was so cheap.
It didn't have any meaning.
It wasn't made by the technology made it.
It wasn't made by I don't know quite how to put it.
Well, I tell you, sir, it is, I say to you, it is depressing.
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Well, all this talk about, you know, beings from other planets and all this other stuff about Sumerians and we're genetically encoded and all that stuff.
See, I think that human life is a gift.
I think it's a miracle.
And all the religions all agree on that.
There's one thing, that the human being is above the angels and above any spiritual beings and is equal to God as far as within us.
There's something that's so equal to God or remarkable or a spark of God that is so incredible that I don't believe all that stuff.
It's just I think we've been given something that is fantastic.
In fact, I've got an appointment on this next Wednesday to go talk to my state representative about it.
So I'll pass on that tonight then.
A guy last week kind of stole my thunder about Haiti.
I kind of had the idea that what we needed to do about Haiti is all these gun buybacks that they have here in the States, like they've had one here in Portland, all that.
I really mean this, because I think Bill Clinton doesn't want to be seen giving guns to anybody.
Not the Bosnians, not the Haitians, not anybody.
What he really wants to do is take them away.
unidentified
Right.
Can I can I well before I go, I wanted to you know how the old the on some of the movies or stories that you hear about building a supercomputer that actually gets away and it gets so big that it starts thinking for itself.
Yes, one of the great ones was the Forbin project.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, I kind of look at our government like that and the fact that what we got on right now is a race between between the government, the big computer, and the creator, the states of America.
And the big race is, can the states of America unplug it before it it demolishes its creator?
I'm not sure that it's a process that can be reversed.
You know, it sounds good, unplug it.
But the way civilization is going right now and the social structure appears to be breaking down, I'm not sure the answer is that there's a way to stop it.
All night long at every top of the hour since 12 midnight, been hearing about that they're possibly going to cause Ross Dankowski to be determined to become resigned to his own job.
Yes, we've been aware of the ongoing dialogue and the fact that he was probably going to have to plead guilty to at least one felony and all the rest of it, but it has still not happened.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Okay.
And on angels, I have a story I know you're not going to believe, but it is true.
About eight months before George Bush went to got out of office, he was visited by an angel.
And my pastor had talked about across the pulpit after our church affiliation had their general conference.
And the first time George Bush saw the angel, he didn't know who it was.
And I guess he just kind of thought he was dreaming.
He went back to sleep.
And then I don't know how long had passed, but the angel had woke him up again.
And he asked him who he was.
And He told him that he had a message from him to him and that he was an angel and everything.
And he told him not to interfere with any plans having to do with Israel going back, you know,
just and he immediately got on the phone with our superintendent of our church affiliation because at that time he was besides Billy Graham was the spiritual, the second spiritual advisor for George Bush.
This comes from some guy running named Toss Papolino on the 79th District out here in California.
Yes.
Said some things about Hillary Clint's deal on firearms, something called AMMP, the alternative, what is it, alternative manufacturing program designed for Colt to change them from manufacturing firearms to blue jeans.
And also firearms renewal program.
That means registration of all firearms per year on, you know, paying a certain amount of tax on each weapon to continue to own that.
Also, I was going to tell you, Art, I really do disagree with you about what happened to Beckman.
I mean, that's outrageous that he didn't get his day in court after 18 years.
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Well, there's a lot going on.
I guess there's been some sort of encounter near Haiti, shots fired over the bow, that sort of thing.
A lot of news we're tracking, and let me just mention a little bit of it.
Dr. Coop and President Carter are getting together trying to urge Eld Presidente to raise the price of cigarettes by $2 a pack.
They think that's just a spiffy idea.
So, looks like we're going to have that argument again.
There is a story about a disease in England that I'm trying desperately to get hold of.
Somebody just sent me some instructions on how to resurrect it from America online.
And I'm going to try to do that.
In the meantime, I received this fact from somebody updating me on that.
As a matter of fact, it was Joe in Kansas City at KCMO, and he writes: Art, the sci-fi virus.
CNN today carried a story of a sci-fi-like E. coli virus which killed six people in, I believe, Scotland, death within 24 hours of contraction.
It liquidates one inch of muscle or fat per hour.
They have been amputating limbs in a futile attempt to stop it.
This is even more eerie to me than an atomic war.
Is it possible this is ecologically produced or released by accident from one of these experimental labs that really don't exist?
Well, I don't know.
But that is, I feel, an important story and one that's being not properly covered.
If we've got a new terrible disease going on, I want to know about it.
I don't know about you.
There are a lot of people, you know, who don't like bad news.
If there's bad news, they don't want to hear it.
And so maybe you don't want to hear this, but there it is, and I want to know more about it.
So if anybody has any additional details or can confirm the main body of that facts, I would appreciate it.
And I will go searching for the story on America Online.
In the meantime, there was another fax I thought of serious consequence, and I have a reply to it now.
Hello, Art.
I heard on the radio today that the St. Louis police have initiated a new crime prevention program whereby the officers are going door to door in a poor neighborhood, asking the residents to sign a paper giving them permission to search their homes.
Ostensibly, the police are searching for guns.
It was reported that people are being told that if they refuse to sign the release, allowing their homes to be searched, they should be aware of the fact that their names will be on a list and they will be, quote, watched, end quote.
Sounds like Chicago, doesn't it?
And I asked, indeed, is it going on?
And I have a friend now who works for News Plus, an organization news wire service in St. Louis, and he just faxed me this.
Dear Mr. Bell, here is the story regarding your earlier call.
Actually, it was a fax, about police going door to door looking for guns in St. Louis.
In response to the large number of shootings involving teenage gunmen, the St. Louis Mobile Reserve Unit is proposing the following.
If a juvenile is arrested for an offense involving a gun, police would then go to that person's house and ask his parents for permission to search for other guns the juvenile might have.
I don't know about people being put on a list if they refuse to allow the search, as your caller suggested.
But apparently this has more to do with getting guns out of the hands of teenage gang members than undermining the Constitution.
Thank you, Kevin.
That's Kevin of News Plus.
And, you know, that sounds reasonable to me, and I don't have a problem with it.
In other words, if your son or daughter were caught with a gun, why would it be unreasonable for the police to want to look around in your house and see if that youngster, not you, had more guns?
That is reasonable.
And sometimes these stories get really blown out of shape.
That's very different than simply going door to door randomly, sort of a knock, knock and talk approach, asking to search homes randomly.
It's very different.
And as I said on the air, as I first heard this, I would really object.
It's going too far.
But as I get the follow-up report, it really isn't going too far, is it?
And it really is a good idea, and things really are out of control, aren't they?
So I don't think it is unreasonable that the police, after catching a juvenile with a gun, would want to search the home and find out if there are any more.
What about you?
We're also talking about the Postal Service distributing a national identification card because that has now been proposed, and I wonder how you feel about it.
If it would cut down on illegal immigration, which it would.
If it would cut down on government fraud, which it would.
Would you accept such a card or would you basically regard it as the mark of the beastie?
Then there's Denny's, a $46 million settlement for alleged or now admitted.
Actually, they're paying the $46 million without admitting it.
But it was in settlement for alleged discrimination.
Wonder how you feel about that.
The Trade Center group, four of them, going away forever and ever.
Most favored nation trading status for China, yay or nay.
Mexico and the discontent down there.
Did you hear about the new math test, the big joke that was going around?
Well, some teacher, some teacher, I guess in Chicago, gave the test to a classroom of sixth graders.
Not good.
And so that teacher may be fired.
I think he had good intentions, but the parents have gone absolutely ballistic.
And then finally, we're talking about angels because of the two-hour NBC special on angels that had a big impact on me.
I don't know about you if you happen to catch it.
So that's kind of a round-up of what we're talking about.
Pick any topic you'd like to talk about and come on in.
We do have a Fourth Amendment in this country, and you have a right not to be unreasonably searched, so there should be some basis for the search.
unidentified
Well, you got to take the good with the bad, because anytime you take your family down to Forest Park, all you see is like drug dealers, like walking up the cart.
Oh, I can see that, but I don't agree with, you know, illegal entry and breaking the people's home.
But what I'm saying is some of the community blows this all up out of proportion, and pretty soon we have the police knocking on people's doors randomly, asking to search, and then threatening if they don't get it.
But yes, Richard Hoagland is going to make an announcement about what he thinks he's found on the dark side of the moon.
And he thinks he claims he has photographic evidence of it.
We are going to be scheduling Richard Hoagland back onto Dreamland.
He believes that he's found a glass, what amounts to a glass skyscraper several miles high on the moon.
At least that's what I get of it so far, and I could be wrong.
But we're going to have him back on Dreamland early in July, and I think that would be a good time to have him on.
Maybe we'll have him on even before then.
But, of course, as you know, the big collision occurs in July, and so I want to talk to him about that just before it occurs.
Also, big announcement.
This Friday night, Saturday morning on the program, repeating this coming Friday night, Saturday morning, I'm going to have as my guest Preston Nichols.
Preston Nichols is the fellow who co-authored the book, The Montauk Project.
Basically, Preston Nichols will pick up where Al Bielick left off.
Preston Nichols was also involved in the Philadelphia experiment at the Montauk End.
And so if you've been fascinated by Al Bielik, you're not going to want to miss Preston Nichols coming up this Friday night, Saturday morning.
That'll be at 11 o'clock Pacific time.
Pretty exciting stuff.
Preston Nichols, 11 o'clock Pacific time, this Friday night, coming Friday night, actually.
And I believe that he's come up with this based on calculations with regard to reflectivity of some object rather than a good clear picture of a big old seven-mile-high crystal building.
Is that correct?
unidentified
Well, no, I take it more.
He's got photographic proof.
He was stating that anybody with the old NASA photos, the ones that they were releasing all over the place like crazy during the moon explorations with the Apollos and whatnot.
And he used those same calculations on the pictures on the moon.
So it's going to be very interesting to see what he actually has.
unidentified
Oh, I'm looking forward to hearing everything he's got.
In fact, listening to your show has put so many of your guests on my must-read list.
And I'm actually going through that book he wrote about Mars right now.
And it's absolutely fascinating.
Another point was it's on the side of the moon that is always facing us because technically there is no dark side because it's like every two weeks that side of the moon will be illuminated.
But there's basically one side that is always away from us.
And this guy has all kind of he's quoting a lot of people and he's there's a lot of books out there with well I'm I'm sure that Haiti is a drop-off point a a transshipment point for cocaine I I doubt there's any uh I I don't I don't argue that with you.
unidentified
He said there's a ton of cocaine coming into America every month.
And I'm thinking that we're not going to do anything about Haiti because that's big money coming into America, and that's a lot of money for a lot of politicians.
I've not yet heard that Saddam has admitted he did.
unidentified
Well, this is what our news said.
Now, of course, you can get all kinds of news, as we all know.
But if that is the case, then these vets that are having all these terrible illnesses will have something to go on from now on because Lord knows they are claiming to have suffered terrible pain.
In reference to the stuff going on up in St. Louis, you know, there is procedures in place, you know, without for the for the police to be able to go in and get a search warrant.
And, you know, they don't have to go in there and intimidate people, if that's in fact what's going on.
So it seems like that what they're doing is maybe it sounds reasonable, but is in fact unreasonable because, you know, like I say, there is.
In other words, if your son, your 13-year-old, say, is caught with a gun marching down the street, why isn't it reasonable they would check the house to see if there are more guns?
unidentified
Well, because why should it make a difference if it's a child or an adult?
They'd still seem to me need to go to the judge and get a search warrant.
Because I believe the law is that if you're found with a weapon or something like that, they can only do a reasonable search of the general area that you're in.
They want to go to your house, they need to get a search warrant.
would you mind if we search and i suppose well in that yes in that case i can see that is reasonable but Well, that is what they're doing.
unidentified
The people are saying no, and then if the parents are saying no, and then they're saying they're going to put them on a list, that seems unreasonable to me.
By the way, if somebody wants to send me that article on the disease from AOL, then I could get it on the air this morning.
I'm not going to have an opportunity to get online until after I get off the air.
If one of you has that story, forward it to me by all means.
I don't know why I'm...
Yes, I do.
Because I have this terrible feeling that something like the stand, not the entire body of the stand, mind you, but that terrible first episode could occur.
And so I watch reports of diseases like the one we're hearing about very, very carefully.
And, you know, to speak of him not as the talk show host, but just as a person, I have done volunteer work for him and have met him personally on a couple of occasions.
I think that he probably fits a description, which is socially liberal but fiscally conservative.
And, you know, as far as government goes, I think that we need to support our country because it is our country.
At the same time, it is our right, if you want to call it a birthright, it may be an inalienable right, to criticize it because government is a necessary evil, and we need to limit it.
That's our duty as citizens, is to limit our government.
But I honestly don't believe that it's gone far enough, which is what the problem is.
When you get situations like that, people are afraid to go out of their houses, you've got people shooting randomly, as far as I'm concerned, they live in a state of siege.
And when you live in a state of siege, I believe that it has to be rectified by any means necessary.
If you're afraid to go outside your house at 6 o'clock in the evening and you're basically a prisoner in your own home, you don't have freedom to begin with.
Lastly, let me say on this, as you know, Jennifer, you might not know this, but Jennifer Flowers came out with some tapes that she's selling for 20 bucks.
I just received a fact from a friend of mine on the Hawaiian legislature has voted, or I think the legislative committee has said that if the national debt gets to $6 trillion or if the President of the Congress does something to subvert the Congress.
It was an NBC special, two hours long, on angels, and it was very, very good.
And I guess here's where I would like to stop for a second and note, and don't you, why do you suppose we're beginning to see so many programs about this?
About past life regression, about life after death or near-death experiences and UFOs.
Why is there so much suddenly in the media about this?
This subject that almost nobody until recently would touch.
I read them and I say to myself, nobody could be that bad.
unidentified
Well, I think maybe, too, people oftentimes, just because you don't disagree with somebody doesn't necessarily mean you agree with them, but they interpret it as you agreeing with them.
Well, or the other way around, if they disagree with you violently politically, then nothing you can do and nothing you can say is right, and they hate your guts.
And that's okay.
You know, that's all right.
unidentified
Because I don't agree with absolutely everything you say.
But I wanted to comment on that program on Dateline NBC tonight.
I've read a lot of these type of books and listened to a lot of different Laura Lee show and your show and Dreamland, et cetera, and heard a lot of different discussions on this.
It was very good.
I thought it was well done.
Patty Duke was a great host for that.
She brought a level of sincerity across.
One thing that upsets me, though, is it seems so unfair.
Now, doesn't it seem to you a little bit that God is a little bit politically incorrect?
Either that, or then there's another possibility, and that is that there is such a thing as reincarnation, and you're serving out what you're meant to be serving out or try to conquer or fight in this life.
unidentified
Yeah, but for some reason, I can't get my conscious mind to accept that, even though I'm with you.
I entertain it as a theory, and I can say, okay, that's a possibility, but I still can't get my conscious mind to say, okay.
If I were you, if I were in your wheelchair, so to speak, I'd be fighting right to the end trying to do something about it.
unidentified
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I would hope that maybe if you come across any connections on your Dreamline show, get somebody on there who's an expert on psychic healings and psychic surgery and stuff like that.
Because I can't, all the research I've done, I've talked to people all over the world.
I can't find anybody that's ever been healed of this.
I can find cancer patients day and night, even AIDS patients or whatever, cataracts, you know, kidney stones, all that kind of stuff.
You can find healings with that kind of stuff, but never any with paraplegia or quadriplegia.
I know what a lot of people, religious types, would say.
They'd say, oh, but you're looking in all the wrong places.
That's what they'd say.
But you see, I'd be doing just exactly what that man is doing.
I'd be fighting to get my legs back, going everywhere, talking to everybody, following whatever story I could up, and doing, you know, fighting right to the end.
So you may have commented on what he said.
Very interesting.
I would follow many of the same roads, despite warnings and pleadings from those who would counsel otherwise.
All right, in Denver, stand by, and we'll come back to you.
We'll come back to you all.
So you will be the first customer after the news at the top of the hour, which I might add is coming up immediately.
So, lots and lots to talk about this morning: angels, police searches, new diseases, trouble in Haiti, and you can tell that one's escalating towards some sort of a crisis, and I think very soon now.
So, we're going to blockade the Dominican Republic, choke them off, too.
Great idea.
unidentified
This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
Don't forget this Friday night, Saturday morning, Friday night, actually, at 11 o'clock Pacific Time, we'll have Preston Nichols here, Preston Nichols of the Montauk Project or the Philadelphia Experiment, Part 2.
I called up and I said, Larry, I don't know whether you're aware of it, but there's a nationwide talk show, the Art Bell Show, out of Las Vegas.
And Mr. Bell has mentioned several times that your reps have contacted him and said that, you know, very much like an appearance that Larry would appear on the Art Bell show.
And then along about that time, Art Bell mentions, but you understand that if Mr. Nichols appears on my program, I'm going to ask him the hard questions.
Well, you know, it's getting to the point where he's been perplexed about this almost too many times because I've had other people call who have done exactly what you've done.
I don't understand why he continues to be perplexed.
Now, maybe it is a massive coincidence, but I have five times, no less than five times, heard from his people.
I even talked to Larry Nichols' lawyer in Little Rock.
He had heard the same thing, and he called me, and I said the same thing to him.
I said, Joe, sure, I'd love to have him on.
I've got some hard questions.
Hard questions.
In other words, I want some proof laid out.
And that doesn't mean that I'm not going to go ripping the guy apart.
I just want to ask some hard questions, and I don't see why he shouldn't be willing to submit to them.
These are serious, damned allegations he's making about this president, literally of murder, drug dealing, and so forth and so on.
So I don't see what's so scary about hard questions.
Not going to crucify the guy.
I'm just going to ask hard questions.
That's all.
So at least a half dozen contacts now, and still no action.
I remain open.
Here's a fact I got.
Hi, Art.
Been listening to you for about six months and really enjoy the program.
I've become very aware of things going on that I was in the dark about.
Felt the need to tell you, I take great offense at your comments about stupid, stupid answering service or answering services and talking to a real human being tonight rather than an answering service.
I spent 25 years with Ma Bell as one of those long-distance operators.
I've worked for, and then she names the answering service, for 10 years.
And I'm a human being.
B-E-A-N, she spells it.
And I'm not stupid.
I've worked night shift the whole time, and I'm extremely protective of our clients and their customers.
So, my friend, don't judge all by some.
Keep up the good work, Maggie.
In Montana, Montana, Maggie.
Well, Maggie, of course I didn't mean that you were stupid.
And when I said stupid answering services, I sort of stand by that.
They're not stupid, but they're also not salespeople, and they're not ever going to be, Maggie.
And so what I guess I'm saying is this man who has decided to instead get up in the middle of the night and answer the calls himself and sell his own product is a wise dude because it's very difficult for an answering service with a script to properly sell a product and answer questions.
And I've experienced many times the same thing.
You call an answering service about a product and you ask them a question.
They say, I'm sorry, sir, I don't know.
I take orders.
And, you know, I take order.
Do you want to place your order?
Well, yeah, but how about this?
Well, I'm sorry, I don't know about that.
You could call back during the day.
And so from that perspective, I meant it, Maggie.
Certainly not that you're stupid.
Besides, I like operators.
I talk to operators, long-distance operators, especially.
You ever try to engage an operator in conversation?
At any rate, the local gentleman who was really investigating a lot of the background regarding Linda Thompson had a guest on just before he was let go.
And I cannot remember the name of the guest, but he published a thing that he called white papers, and I guess they were very voluminous, very scholarly pieces.
And if you sent away for one, you paid $25 for it.
But this gentleman was investigating a lot of the, I guess you would say, the allegations made by Linda Thompson regarding the Waco debacle.
Right.
I got the strong impression from the gentleman that he, although he agreed with her that the government is quite heavy-handed in many cases and that he was grateful for her work in the Big Live video, he also pointed out the fact that whenever anybody, particularly anybody who was sympathetic with Linda Thompson's aims as far as being anti-big government, anti-tyranny, would point out technical flaws,
most notably the supposed flame shooting out of the tank turret.
I very rarely get an opportunity to listen to you at length, and I was wondering if you ever had anybody along those lines that would have honest, legitimate criticism, maybe about technical aspects of her work, not necessarily antagonistic towards her perspective, but well, yes, I've had a number of people on in that category.
It's an important story now, and we will stick with it as things develop.
We'll have to see what happens.
Here's yet another fact, important, I think.
This is from Reuters News in London.
The Strepococcus bacterium, which has killed six people in Britain this year by literally dissolving their fat and flesh, has a long and deadly history.
In the 19th century, it caused a form of childbed fever that claimed mothers by the thousands, and other forms have caused epidemics of scarlet and rheumatic fever.
Streptococcus type A caused the, quote, galloping pneumonia, and quote, that killed Muppet's creator Jim Henson in 1990.
The form he died of did not cause the problem that causes, that kills tissue at the rate of one inch an hour.
Instead, bacteria spread rapidly through his body, overwhelming his immune system.
Streptococcus can also infect wounds causing gangrene.
It exists naturally in about 10% of people, usually staying harmlessly at the back of the throat.
At most, it usually causes an easily treated sore throat, commonly known as strep throat.
Doctors at first thought the British version had itself been attacked by a virus, but said on Tuesday, now they've ruled that out.
An epidemiologist at the U.S. Center for Disease Control in Atlanta said it is well known that among the symptoms of infection by Group A strepococcus that causes strep throat is a condition that rapidly eats through fat and muscle.
They say it is not a new mutation.
This is not something that is untreatable, according to Dr. Benjamin Schwartz of the CDC.
Antibiotics, penicillin, is the treatment of choice.
I mean, there might be some conditions under which you would reach a judgment about somebody based on old raggedy clothes and the street look and all the rest of it.
You might ask them to pay first no matter what their color, but a policy that allows that is too easily twisted into one that discriminates.
And also on the Denny's thing, I think that the only way you really can talk to companies like this is to hit them in the pocket because the only thing they really look at is the bottom line or the profit in it.
And if you hit them there, then that's what they recognize.
I wanted to ask you, how does it feel to be a new Democrat?
In some cases, certainly that is true, but I must say that I've seen a lot of people talking to themselves, even arguing apparently with themselves, nowhere near a radio.
I think a lot of those are probably men, and they're probably waiting until they get home with their wife, and they're trying to see how the argument's going to go.
There have been 10 to 12 suspected cases of the flesh-eating version of the infection since the beginning of the year.
Now, here's where they give you the calming talk.
Quote, clusters, that's what they call this, a cluster.
Clusters have been reported from elsewhere in the world literature.
It is an unusual event, but not unique.
That's according to Christine Murphy of the British government's Public Health Laboratory Service.
The agency added in a statement, quote, public anxiety should be allayed by the fact that we have examined all indicators of streptococcal infection in the country, and these are demonstrating no change in either numbers of patterns of infection, it said.
Patients are treated with antibiotics, but the dead flesh must be surgically removed.
This was, I think, pulled off AOL or someplace or another and sent to me by Dan, listening at WLIP in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Well, that's a nice statement.
Does it relax you?
Gee, I didn't know there were flesh-eating bacterial infections out there, flesh-eating.
Did you?
Are you calmed by the fact that, why, they say, this is not unusual?
We've had clusters of flesh-eating infections before.
When I was a boy, I read a book called Looking Backward by Edward Bell.
Maybe did you ever read that book?
No.
Well, it's one you should read.
It's a wonderful story about a utopia that came about by everybody reverting to socialism and everybody worked together in socialism and they had Utopia on Earth.
It's a beautiful story, but the only thing wrong with it is it doesn't take into account the human nature, the fallen nature of man.
And if we were angels, we could have a utopia on earth, but we are not angels, and that's the result.
This health care plan is the reason for it is the abolition of private property.
It's the power to destroy.
And the excuse for it is the health care plan.
Health care would be fine, but the power to destroy us with this thing is that there's an attorney that's gone through that health care program with fine-tooth coleman.
The President's plan is not going to be the one that we're going to get.
I don't know what we're going to get just yet, Leonard, but it's not going to be the President's plan as submitted.
That's clear.
unidentified
Well, what we're going to get is they're going to have an add-on plan that'll just keep adding on and adding on and adding on, and then we'll have the whole thing.
I agree, and that's why I said, of course, I'm not for it, but I actually might be for the single-payer plan more than I would be for some version of the president's plan.
I think it would be a disaster.
Thank you very much for the call.
That's a good call, Leonard.
One of the best calls you've ever made, actually.
On the toll-free line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yes, hi, Art.
How are you?
Art, a couple of things.
Always enjoy your program.
I'm calling you from Seattle, but listening to you on TGO.
In fact, I even had some things I like Mr. Nixon and things that recently went up in the political collection in the Smithsonian that I created for him several years ago.
Also, once again, here is the caller who was just about to provide us with evidence of the social irresponsibility of conservatives when we got to the bottom of the hour.
And so here you are back on the air again, sir.
And that evidence.
unidentified
Well, I've lived all over this planet.
I've worked in the same industry that you're in with a great amount of intimacy, and I've known and had the pleasure of several presidents.
I'm the son of a physician.
I'm 60 years old.
I've lived under socialized medicine.
When I said socially irresponsible art, I mean I am a firm believer of government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
I believe that that's a basic premise of the United States of America, which I love very dearly.
And I'm, in fact, I'm something of a flag waver.
I've been endorsed for my defense of the American flag.
And here in Seattle, we have a tendency, I think more so than most communities in the United States of America, to take care of the disadvantaged.
But we are losing our touch in the United States of serving the needs of our people.
Children.
My children were, when I was in the United States Air Force, Armed Forces, Radio and Television Service, back in the 50s in Europe, I was living in England.
I was certainly covered by the health plan that we had in the military, but as an alien, we were also covered by the British Health Service.
And it opened up my eyes.
It was a delight to have the milkman deliver cod liver oil, milk, and things that we just don't do in the United States of America.
I had a comment on Linda Thompson and her tape and some of the things that people have been mentioning, including your caller here a little while ago, about some of the technical things, aspects of it, especially the part of where the track vehicle backs out of the building and there's a supposed flame there, which has also been called a reflection or a Viticom tube camera flare.
Well, I know, but there's enough of the video there that as I watched it, you can watch the flame kind of curl back underneath the tank, and you don't see anything else burning at that point.
And now, I'm not saying anything about her editing or anything like that because I can't, you know, without having seen all the footage that was available for her to be utilizing for that.
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Of course, we can see that I can't question that aspect of it.
Well, can I make a suggestion for yourself and anybody else out there who is listening that has the tape is that I'm sure for you yourself, being in broadcasting as many years as you have, you probably know somebody who works at a TV station or a production facility.
And if there's anybody out there who would like to call their local TV stations or whatever and see if they can go down and take a look at it for themselves, it might, at least for themselves, give them an idea of what's there.
Why would you call and tell me something like this?
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To let you know that the Word of God is active and it's happening.
And the seals are mentioned in Revelation chapter 5.
And within one of the seals that I tore open, it says, after a long course history of misunderstanding and stagnant puzzles in religion, the truth of truth and the mystery of mysteries is revealed.
And I found there's something about a hidden birth.
And I went through the light numerology of the scriptures.
And just so happens, it fits my birthday, which is 315, 1959.
I tore open the seals when I was 30 years old.
And I've been considering it since 1989, and it fits.
I'm getting people who have been well, I don't want to say touched, but people who perhaps have been touched by the hand of God or somebody else or yeah, touched in somewhere.
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Or they used to say touched touched yeah, touched.
Yes sir, long right here Washington, and I was calling to say in regards to angels and I am actually an angel, I believe I am and wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I was with some friends, and we were talking, and I turned to talk to one of my friends, and the next thing I knew, I was out.
I was blacked out.
But the only thing I want to relate to you about what happened was that the word love came up, and it came up in the letter L, and then there was like it seemed like a thousand words between that, and then the letter O, and then the letter V, and then the letter E, and I was standing up straight with my arms stretched out like in the position of a cross.