Secret UFO programs. Many of the people in those programs are fine people just working in a covert system, but a lot of the senior people are making horrible use of these advanced technologies. Instead of benefiting humanity that could be used for medical healing or transportation or energy, they've been used clandestinely in criminal enterprises.

And of course, Uncle John Trump worked deep, deep in these programs, redeveloping the UFO file, passed on from Vannevar Bush. So he transmitted a lot of that information to the president.

And the program that was actually in charge of the whole thing was called Blue. I revealed this program in 2023 originally. And it got around so much in these different circles that these counterintelligence people and others were getting in touch with me saying, how did you know about this? And the government had to come clean in the spring of 2024 and say, yes, we did have Blue, you know, and we called it Kona Blue, and it was a crash retrieval program for UFOs.