But the most important thing that you need to know is that in 1984 he went to prison. Because he orchestrated the murder of a guy who owed him money. He got two kids who worked at his tire shop, I believe.

I don't remember exactly what the business was, but associates that he knew from that, he offered them $5,000 and a car, a getaway car, presumably, to go kill this guy.

But the short version of it, he's a crazy dude who... Orchestrated a murder in California about 20-something years ago, give or take.