Like I would say that Tim Poole is a really classic case of this where like I've done the Alec, you know, I've done the knowledge fight treatment on Tim Poole where like I've seen all of his content up through like, you know, a certain amount of time. And it's so interesting to watch him inch bit by bit into the positions that he has now, in part by seeing how when he delved into that stuff, that's where his audience really responded to it.