They're people.

Because they are living their lives. They have autonomy. They have perfect ability to love, to work, to exist.

I think that people born with Down syndrome probably have a fine position with having their lives be what they are, and I respect the hell out of that. But at the same time, I think that they probably would be better off if they had been born not having Down syndrome. I think that might be slightly controversial. And I want to be very clear, what I'm saying is not discounting their life as a I'm saying that their life... Had it not been the case, would be better.

So he cost us, as a society, 48,000 euros per year. It's a considerable amount, but it's high compared to normal persons.