Do you remember that shortly before this email, your co-worker Kit Daniels published an innocent person's photo as the Parkland shooter? No. Are you familiar with the lawsuit that resulted from those events? Not off the top of my head.

Yeah, you've got Kit Daniels, who was deposed in our case and in Fontaine, and in fact broke down in tears for what he did to Marcel Fontaine. He is going to be appearing in his Lafferty deposition, because he was also deposed there as well. So we're going to have testimony from him there.

He, I don't think it's accurate to say he pulled the image only from 4chan. I think his response was he saw the image on 4chan as well as other social media sources. So I don't know that this was the post that he saw necessarily. Where did Mr. Daniels pull the post that he used in his article? As his representation in the production was, and his similar comment to me was he saw it on social media first. I think he said Twitter. I think that's what it says in the production in the responses. And he also saw it on 4chan. I don't know whether this was the particular document he saw on 4chan. But when I spoke to him, he said he had seen it not first on 4chan, but on a social media site such as, I believe, Twitter.

And that is an issue that is central to this. So that is a deposition that is related to the Marcel Fontaine case, which is a case where Kit Daniels wrote an article and posted it on Infowars where he misidentified the Parkland shooter based on a picture that he found on 4chan.

And he's like, he's very critical, at least answering my questions, he was very critical of himself at this point. I was like, one to ten rated, and he's like, two.

That's so wild, though, to think about, like, this just kind of dominoing effect, you know, like, Kit Daniels wrote this article, and that led to Marcel Fontaine being defamed, and the starting of this trial, which leads to the Sandy, you guys representing the Sandy Hook folks, which leads to that. But even think, like, the further back, because the Fontaine stuff was based on him reporting on, like, Troll shit from 4chan. So whoever posted that actually is responsible for taking down Alex. You can't just go back. You got to keep going forward because then it triggered these lawsuits and here I am talking to you guys. So here I am congratulating Jordan. I believe you just got married. Yes, I did. We can thank Kit Daniels for that. Congratulations. Wait, you might not be married if it wasn't for Kit Daniels. If it weren't for Kit Daniels, I think this all makes sense now.

I think he's 37. He's older than I am, which I was kind of caught off guard by as well.

I think $75,000 is my base salary. It can go up to 90 based on performance bonuses.

It's just kind of something that after all these lawsuits and litigation, I kind of decided for myself that that was something I needed to do and take more responsibility.

Well, first off, I've used the word journalism maybe out of ignorance before. I kind of see myself more as a social commentator.

So, the article itself, some of the main claims in it were that Kit was saying that the shooter dressed like a communist, also dressed like an ISIS fighter in Syria, and supported ISIS. These were claims that were made based on Nicholas Cruz's Instagram page that he found, and the picture of Marcel Fontaine that was found on 4chan that... Kit misidentified as the shooter.

I'm not familiar with that. It's the second largest terrorist organization in the world. No, I'm not.

And since that time, you've been promoted?

No. Okay, so you realize you were wrong.

I don't remember. And the answer's no. You did not.

I use the term video journalist because I really didn't know how to describe myself to the best of my ability as far as going out and shooting videos, interviewing people. And then writing stories about those videos? I didn't do that very often, if at all. Okay, so you would just shoot videos and then give them to somebody else? No, I'd shoot videos, upload them to the website. Okay, and you wouldn't write anything at the bottom or a story with the video? Typically not. I generally never had time to. I would just shoot a video and just upload it to YouTube, and then we'd embed it on InfoWars.

Do you believe you're a victim of some internet trolls that just got the best of you because you weren't paying attention? I think I was duped, definitely.

At the time, yes. You'd done it before you posted Mr. Fontaine's photo to the world. Yes.

I don't remember, but if I didn't do it for Fontaine's photo, I regret not doing it.

No, I've suffered from depression.

I do.

So, the demonstration here is of the intensely bigoted nature of the harassment that Kit continued, knowingly or unknowingly, or through negligence, and the doxing and all of this is the kernel from which his reporting bloomed.

Not only you're one of them, it's more you have taken their goals and achieved them for them. You have spread this harassment to a much larger audience than would be available on this poll board. And in some ways created a more mainstream-ish place where it's happening.

Anyway, he fell for a 4chan thing.

You did not go and do anything to get the answers. FOIA requests would have taken too long. My readers wouldn't have liked that.

Now, whether or not you made your audience believe you were is a completely different question, but there is no doubt in my mind that nothing that you do is actually investigative journalism.

Your headline says Vegas shooter found with Antifa literature, right? Yes. Point me where you get that from in this article. Ooh! I don't see an embed for it. You know why? I don't remember. Because the headline is clickbait.

Yes, you just have a pretty clear, linear, A to B demonstration of Alex asked you to write this headline, or told you to, and you knew you couldn't not do it, and there's an embedded headline of his show from that day that is covering this news story in the way he told you to cover it, using your article as the justification for it.

It does seem like this is very much a dude who has just operated purely on, like, reward-punishment scale his entire life, where it's just like... If I don't ask these questions, I get a reward. They give me a bonus. I mean, he might as well get $15,000 a year to not ask questions about this.