Yeah, we actually did, we did go and try to find, no, we did go and find who the bosses were. We even got copies of checks that were written from the bosses to the coordinators and petitioners.

Yeah, so, so, but, but, but what you can do, and this is not for everyone, but they're doing it in broad daylight, Alex. So you can go to Los Angeles or San Francisco. There was a guy named JJ who is just a normal guy. He's the one who tipped us off, just a normal, you know, God-fearing guy. You can go out there with your camera and record them doing this. And I actually think that that's what people, if as long as you know the risks involved, and as long as you have security, you got to have security for someone there to protect you. You go out there with your iPhone and you record them doing this.

But they've got to, you've got to, you've got to arrest somebody somewhere. And that's going to send a shockwave to the citizen journalist, and there's going to be more of us.

Institutions have their own metrics for success, but individuals, individual citizen journalists like JJ or like Nick Shirley or like Cam Higby or Anthony Rubin, individuals cannot be corrupted in the same way that an organization can.