Now, those individuals, according to Charlie Freak, Well, Charlie Freak was noticed because he was putting two and two together, intuitively, number one. But number two, he's like a master numerologist, so he was very good at that, and then I guess also interpreting the cue materials. But they noticed him, and they made overtures to him, basically saying, we don't have a leak, so how do you know this, as he says on my show. And so he became one of those, you know, sort of... Repositories, if you will, of getting some leaked information valid as to yes or no or whatever.