WTW117: Deeper Into Matt Murphy's Child Trafficking Cinematic Universe
Matt Murphy and hosts Thomas Ned and Lydia dissect child trafficking claims, framing DEI as a Marxist virus while alleging 85,000 missing U.S. children overwhelm police despite unverified statistics. They scrutinize Murphy's Sentinel Foundation for opaque financial reporting, questioning salary transfers and the absence of leadership on IRS Form 990s. Ultimately, the episode exposes how fear-based narratives regarding moral decay manipulate conservative audiences, leaving critical financial discrepancies unresolved for future analysis. [Automatically generated summary]
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Hello and welcome to Where There's Woke.
I'm Thomas Ned over there is Lydia.
How are you doing?
I'm doing well.
How much time has elapsed since we last met?
Because I have to do the math on how many traffic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also how many times I was trafficked.
And then I think you have that awkward.
Oh my God.
It's so embarrassing.
Have you ever been trafficking a child and then you get trafficked like while you're doing it?
And you're like, oh my God, this is so funny.
You're never going to believe this.
Trafficking to the second power, I think is how that works.
Yeah, usually like etiquette wise, the trafficker will be pretty cool about it.
If you're like, hey, can you let me finish trafficking this child first?
Or like, but sometimes you get a greedy trafficker who's like, oh, no, now I get two points, like two, two and one.
Yeah.
You know, it's just kind of.
You just never know.
You know what I mean?
It's just etiquette.
You know, I feel like, I feel like things like that are just like get people aren't as cool as they used to be.
You know, you people used to be polite about trafficking and now it's like, it's all mean.
Frankly, I've lost some of the like joy of it.
Of trafficking?
I hope a little bit of it.
I hope someone goes through all these episodes and just takes our jokes about trafficking and stitches them together and be like, wow, this is what the left has done.
Yeah.
Matt Murphy probably will.
We'll take it to this next time that he's.
If you think you've heard some stuff, you know, look, I hope folks are enjoying this.
You could argue that maybe I shouldn't have gone through an entire hour and 50 minute interview with a guy on a show that no one's heard of.
But you're wrong.
And we already did.
So.
Yeah.
Oh, I did like eight times.
You're lucky that you only have to do this once.
It's so fun.
I actually, I love it now.
I love it.
I want to go find more of it.
It's just so because like you get to just make whatever you want up and you get to have people be like, my God.
Like, who's going to challenge you?
They're not going to question you.
This episode, we get to hear Matt Murphy talk more about child trafficking and also some pop psychology.
Ooh.
He gets going on some Jordan Peterson, you know?
You start to see why it all fits together and these are all one universe and these are all the things that appeal to this kind of person, you know?
Yeah.
It really tons of overlap, but this one is just so fun.
This is the last one on this interview.
Don't worry.
We're going to move on to other stuff still related to child trafficking and still related to Sentinel Foundation.
Right.
But this is the last time we have to hear the.
Oh my God.
It's too many times.
It's so funny because as I was editing, there was times when you or I took a breath and I was like, oh man, that's so funny that we did.
And I was like, oh, darn.
I wasn't smart enough to think of that in the moment.
Like it would have been really funny if after you said something, I went, like, it's so creepy.
Now I expect to hear it constantly.
Yeah.
It's going to be like a production decision for our shows moving forward now.
It's in my brain.
It's in my brain for sure.
You're like, I get it now.
All right.
Well, we're going to take our usual break, which you can avoid at patreon.com slash where there's woke.
And everybody listening to me right now has already done that because they're amazing and they're hearing this early.
However, if you're listening to it right now, you're a normie and you had to wait so long to hear this.
You're in the future, but in a bad way.
But now you're in the past.
You could have been in the past.
No, yeah.
You could have been in the future now, earlier.
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So then this guy says like, okay, Ri, the wife, you did so much research.
And I would just like to take a moment to appreciate the wife of this show wife.
I can't wait to hear this.
When you say you've done research, I know I'm about to hear something good.
Very good.
Okay, so low bar.
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This is what we're talking about.
I don't even know what the fuck.
This is just for fun.
But like, oh, I want to be a fly on the wall for this conversation.
And it's like, there's nothing.
Okay.
You know, I think, as you mentioned earlier, that movie portrays that it only happens in other countries.
And, you know, it's not, it doesn't look like that here when in fact, Americans are the biggest consumers of anything children sexually related.
I don't know.
And that's true.
I don't know.
How do we bring that more awareness besides what we're doing right now?
You know, if there was one thing as parents, I mean, obviously.
Yeah, so that's nothing.
If I threw it to you, like, Lydia's done this research and that was your question, I'd be like, oh, maybe podcasting isn't for you.
Let's talk about you returning to the state.
Yeah, let's talk about something you've already covered and ask a question that isn't particularly good about it.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Listen to this.
The problem is in America right now, and we addressed a little bit this earlier, law enforcement is overwhelmed.
In a lot of areas, they're not even prosecuting crimes right now unless you murder somebody.
I mean, here in Nashville, Tennessee, I mean, you pretty much have to get pulled over for a DOI where they can't do anything but, you know, take you in or kill somebody to actually get prosecuted.
I got cop friends.
I'm not going to call them out who told me I'll watch somebody sell somebody a kilo of cocaine and I'm not doing a thing about it because I know that if I arrest this guy and do all that paperwork, that the district attorney won't prosecute it.
Wow.
You know, and that's just the reality of it.
I guess just because he happens to be in Nashville, he can bag on Nashville.
I doubt Nashville is like, Tennessee is not like a blue state to my knowledge.
I guess they can bash any city as being like Democrats or something.
It's hard to not just deep dive everything, but at a glance, Nashville's DA is a Democrat.
It seems like that's always true.
It seems like the primary is where the actual election is.
It seems like one of those.
In the actual election, it's like 90-something percent.
The guy currently in there is Glenn Funk.
And I think that this is something that conservatives probably do to bash in the same way they, you know, ran Jason Boudin out of San Francisco or whatever, which, you know, such an interesting interview over on OA that not enough people listen to.
Yeah.
I imagine there's some discourse around that.
But in the 2022 election, just looking at some of the press, there's other progressive DA candidates that went against him and they both lost.
He was the incumbent.
So it's like the incumbent who's been in there for eight years at that point.
So he's still there.
So he's been there forever.
I can't imagine he's like that progressive a guy.
Who knows?
But he has made some gestures toward like, we're going to stop prosecuting low-level marijuana crimes, which is a far cry from what this idiot just described as they'll find a fucking truck full of heroin or whatever he said and they won't prosecute it.
That's not at all true.
And there's the typical like letdown of progressive in quotes DAs where he brought the first murder indictment against a Nashville police officer for an on-duty shooting.
Oh, wow.
However, after years of delays, Funk offered the officer a last-minute plea deal for a lesser charge.
Cool.
Cool.
Which resulted in a three-year jail sentence with a chance for release after about a year and a half.
Awesome.
A backroom bargain, it was called by the family of the person killed.
Oh, wow.
He also has not announced criminal charges in any of the last year's 10 shootings.
It sounds like he's a Democrat who's, but he's a DA.
You know, he's probably pretty conservative.
And also focused on expediency, like closing.
He did say that he wasn't going to prosecute abortion cases, which is good.
Like that's the one good thing that I saw, like after the Supreme Court decision, he announced he's going to protect women, not going to pursue like cases to prosecute women for having abortions or whatever.
So like, yeah, Tennessee probably has like a trigger law or something like that.
Yeah.
So like, okay.
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But like this idea that they're just not even prosecuting.
Like just not doing any of it.
It's not even going to bother.
It's like, what are you talking about?
So this is feeling like more and more dishonest to me.
They go on to talk about like, oh, you might think your 12-year-old daughter is doing this innocent little dance, but on TikTok, there's probably a 40 or 50 year old guy watching that messaging her.
And like, honestly, might be true.
Yeah.
Doesn't have a military solution, but okay.
And there's a lot of this, you know, phones are the decline of everything.
And I'm certainly sympathetic to a lot of that.
But not in the like these darn kids sense.
I don't really find that to be compelling.
I think that a lot of that is overblown when it comes to like how much phones are ruining specifically like Gen Z or whatever.
I feel like that's a lot of the same typical generational crap that comes every single generation says that about the next generation.
Oh, they don't even go outside.
They're lazy because the phone, like all that crap, it goes back to fucking Socrates.
Like it's every single time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny as you say that as a bunch of high school students walked out today to protest ICE in Sacramento.
Like they just marched to the Capitol.
Yeah, that's awesome.
A thousand students.
Yeah.
So tell me again how they're not going outside and doing anything else.
Right.
So as off the rails as you think maybe it has been here so far, there are more rails to go off of.
Oh, boy.
That's one thing on this topic that I think is crucial for parents to understand.
You know, I used to work a lot in the realms of psychological warfare.
Right.
And one of the things that's attacked or targeted is children, right?
Unfortunately, it's children, not to kill them, but to change the way that they think and they believe.
Now, all of us as people, we have sexual brains.
Sex subconsciously determines and makes most of our decisions in life.
We don't even see it to reproduce, to carry on the next generation, to be able to protect them and talk to them, to get an attractive mate.
Most of the things that we do in life subconsciously are driven by our sex drive, right?
But that's different for boys and girls, right?
And every parent, when I'm about to say, what I'm about to say is going to see what I'm saying if they are honest with themselves.
So the women are attracted.
Their sexual drive is driven by attention.
Right.
And we've studied this in some of the most, I'm not getting the ways that we found all this out on the government level.
Okay.
I've not, I love that lie.
I just wanted to get to that particular thing because he's spouting manosphere pop psychology nonsense and then being like, I worked for the government and I'm not going to get into that.
I'm not going to disclose that.
How I'm not, the quote is, I'm not even going to get into the ways that we found all this out on the government level.
We've just found out that girls want attention.
It's so funny.
We got to keep going.
It's so fun.
Just the act.
I've been watching this.
This is like five unadulterated minutes of nonsense.
So when girls get on social media, they are getting their attention, right?
They're getting their attention, not just from one kid, from all the kids and all the adults and all the people.
Every time there's a like or there's a comment or there's a click or a new follow, girls are getting that attention.
And all kids get addicted to that, right?
All kids get addicted to that, but girls, especially in the sexuality side.
So that's what girls see when they get on social media and they see the older girls sexualizing themselves, the butt pics, the risky clothing, looking all gorgeous and perfect and beautiful, altering and editing their photos.
Young girls see that and they're like, that's how I get attention, right?
So now they start to sexualize themselves at ages earlier than they would ever be sexualized.
I mean, look at a young girl from when we were kids, when she was 12, 13, 14 years old, how she dressed and presented herself.
And they said the exact same thing then.
You can't tell the difference anymore, right?
So that's all from social media.
So now these girls are sexualizing themselves for the likes of clicks and follows and all that stuff.
But while that's happening, they're no longer seeking.
Kids are getting better.
So what we're seeing is kids aren't having sex and being intimate with each other anymore.
That's a very rare thing now, surprisingly, right?
I'm so uncomfortable.
Kids are not in the neighborhood playing Truth and Nerr and faking out.
You know, under the bleachers, kids are sexualizing themselves online.
Now, here's where it's dangerous.
Once that girl starts to get in that world and in that head, she's no longer seeking it in the physical world.
But here's the even more dangerous part with this is that now she's opened herself up to needing that attention.
And it becomes a psychological dopamine-fed.
And she's going to create more content and more content and more things.
And you see it with these girls and kids on social media now.
It is their life.
Right.
You know, and so one, she's not going to date or interest in that.
Why am I going to deal with one stupid, smelly boy, you know, and deal with attention from young when I've got 10,000 followers and people in my DMs every day telling me how beautiful I am?
Now, here's what happens with boys: pornography.
Free pornography destroys their life.
Are you ready for this?
Sex drive.
So they start seeing things at young ages.
We see kids now five, six years old addicted to porn because their parents do like them.
And I mean, you're, you're, we see young kids five, six years old addicted to porn.
What?
What in the world is he talking about?
No, you don't.
I'm going to say it.
No, you don't.
I just the idea of that is so funny to me.
And like, here's the other thing.
If that's true, then the people he's on the show with right now are not acting shocked enough.
No.
Like if I heard a claim like that from somebody, I would be like, oh my God.
I know these people have kids.
If you've had a kid, you know this isn't true.
Exactly.
There's no possible way this is true.
And you know it's not.
So they can't call them out.
Don't call it out because there's no way that like they're not going to push back.
You have to yes and but then also I know you know it's not true because if it were true, if you thought it were true, you would be reacting to the past.
I mean, they kind of are, I guess, but like they do.
I hear a lot of stuff of like, gosh, man.
I hear that a lot.
How do they react to this claim?
Well, to be fair.
Do they say, oh my God, a five-year-old?
I can't remember, but to be fair, this whole thing has been one alarmist claim after the other.
So the whole, the whole atmosphere of the interview is like, oh, my God, can't believe it.
Can't believe it.
Yeah, but like I'm sitting and listening to it too, and I still would react.
No, I hear you.
I hear you.
But like, you can't have had a five or six year old and think this is possibly true.
The most you could think is that like, okay, there could be parents that are like letting their very young kids see porn and that would be awful.
Like that would be super awful.
There's no way they would be addicted to it.
There's no possible chance.
Like they're not there yet.
If you don't have kids, like they don't get it at all at that age.
They're addicted to sugar.
They're addicted to.
You know, kids do weird sexual stuff.
Like that's the weird thing about development.
They do weird sexual stuff.
They're curious about their body.
Yeah, they're curious, but it's not porn addiction.
That's, that doesn't, that's way too intellectualized for like they don't understand porn.
Like they wouldn't understand it if they saw it.
They can be, I don't know if addicted is the right word, but like really, really focused on screens.
So I guess if you're playing just 24 hours of porn in your house on the one screen, then maybe you could make that.
This is just made the fuck up.
This is absolutely made up.
It's silly, but we're still going somewhere.
So they start seeing things at young ages.
We see kids now five, six years old addicted to porn because their parents give her iPads.
And I mean, you're one Google of a boob or a penis or a vagina away from being on porn health.
Right.
You know, and you get on that slippery soap in that rabbit hole.
That's what happens with boys.
Boys are sexual beings.
They need that, right?
The masturbation, whatever.
Let's be honest.
Let's be real.
Let's be candid about it.
That's what boys do.
Sure.
Right.
So once little boys, when I was a kid, you had the JCPenney catalog and a Playboy, right?
You know, in your imagination station, I guess you could say, right?
I had the JCPenney and the Sears catalog.
Oh, yeah.
That was a good one.
I didn't get the Playboy, though.
Yeah.
I stole it from a friend's house.
I wasn't brave enough.
Yeah.
But that, but that's what we had.
But in that, it was just images, right?
Yeah.
And so you were still building towards pursuing and going after girls, right?
And, you know, just doing what boys do.
Boys aren't doing that anymore.
Here's why.
They're getting addicted to pornography.
These videos and everything that happens with pornography gives them stronger dopamine hits and releases than you could ever get.
And sadly to say, in real life, and you'll never go back to real life after you get addicted to porn.
It's not just destroying kids.
It's destroying adults' lives.
But as a little, as a child with those still developing brains, whole dissertation that I have to fit is almost done, and it ruins you for the rest of your life, right?
Because you need more and more and more and more and more, right?
And you're getting more and more and more and more to where it's so much as a child that there's just there's never going to now be enough for you sexually.
And that's when all these sexual perversions and all these other things that have become so popular in society, that's where they get their foundation and when they start.
It's either altered through abuse or it's directed by pornography.
So that little boy is no longer chasing the girl or doing all the things that he should do, giving her all the attention she needs because she's getting it elsewhere and distracted.
And now nothing he could do could ever get her attention.
So he's just at home, you know, masturbating and watching pornography.
And now he's on a slippery slope in a rabbit hole.
And that's happening to about 80% of our children in America.
80% of our children.
Wow, 80%.
80%.
Wait, did she say wow 80%?
Yeah.
Wow, 80%.
That's a big number.
Every kid that has access to social media or phone untethered.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
So, okay.
Let's recap.
What the purpose of why we're here.
Five-minute thesis that I had to play because it's so good.
It builds.
He is here representing a non-profit organization.
I need more guns.
Yeah.
That is supposed to be doing like rescue operations for children that are victims of trafficking internationally, potentially.
And so now let's talk about porn addiction in children and how does that relate at all?
Sure does not.
To like, are the boys then becoming traffickers?
Like, do they grow up to traffic?
Well, that's sort of the implication.
Is that what he's saying?
No, they grow up to be victims.
That's what he's saying.
Well, both of them.
So are the boys being victimized in trafficking?
I don't know if trafficking, maybe, but what he's saying is like the girls aren't interested in the guys.
So they're always on the internet to get their attention.
And that's where the predators get to them.
And then the boys are addicted to porn because they don't care anymore, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he says now he's on a slippery slope in a rabbit hole.
And that, so that's how they get into like the deeply perverted stuff.
And maybe he becomes a consumer.
Yeah, they might become either a consumer or maybe they fall in, you know, and a predator gets access to them too, like one way or the other.
I feel like that's part of his thesis of why there's so much in his worldview, predatory behavior fucking everywhere at all times.
I'm going to need some sources, my guy.
Yeah.
80%.
And at this point, when I was watching this, I was like, I almost wonder if Rhee maybe was being sarcastic there, but I don't know.
It would be really funny to me.
Like, I don't know anything about these people.
It's the first time I've ever seen any of them.
I think it would be a funny comedy sketch in a dark way because sometimes I like these weird situations if midway through this interview, she realizes he's full of shit, but like, what's she going to do about it?
Yeah.
She's like, really?
80%.
Huh.
Okay.
Okay.
Like, she's trapped in this show and in this fucking marriage, for all I know.
Like, who knows?
They have all the incentive to yes and, you know, to your earlier point, no incentive to challenge.
I just feel like also the whole nonsense that he went off about is it's probably conversations that he's had with his wife because maybe something that he has been struggling with himself with regard to porn consumption.
I don't know.
It feels really personal.
Look, it's all true that boys are interested in naked girls, straight boys anyway, at an age.
That's all true.
And porn addiction is probably a thing.
I haven't really looked into it, but I'm sure it's like something.
I don't know to what extent.
Yeah, in the sense that it can be damaging for relationships and stuff like that.
Yeah.
And expectations and consent behavior, like all that stuff.
I don't know how it fits into any of this show.
Like it just doesn't really fit into anything.
Yeah.
I loved it.
This is a quick thing, but it was just for fun.
So earlier, you said that there's 85,000 unaccounted for children in the U.S.
And immediately I was thinking of Nissan Stadium.
What's that hold?
Like 60,000, give or take?
So that means every seat in there would be full.
Imagine how many people that is in one spot.
It would be full and there would still be 25% left outside that hadn't got in yet.
Sorry, it's just so funny.
It's like, yeah, no, that's 80,000 people.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
I didn't need that.
It's like such a like dude way of like, it already was bad.
I didn't really need like the context of a stadium.
So funny.
Yeah.
Then they talk about like, well, there's 8.5 billion people on the earth.
I think that's high, isn't it?
What's up?
Isn't it like under eight now?
No, I don't think it's under eight.
I think it's still over eight.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
8.2.
And then he's like, and 1% of them are pedophiles.
And then he very quickly like bails out of what the math would be.
It's like, so that's, I mean, that's got to be like millions.
Just like, yeah.
Let's see.
When did we cross eight?
Oh, we crossed eight in like 20, oh, pretty recently, like 2021.
Wow.
I actually have not checked for like five years.
So yeah, we crossed 8 billion four or five years ago.
That's interesting.
Wow.
Post-COVID.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That's fun.
Anyway, then he's like, that's how many devils you got to fight.
Oh.
Cause it's always got to be religious, good and evil.
And just for what it's worth, I googled boob to see if I was one, one Google away from pornhub.
Oh, no way.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I have the dictionary definition.
I have my entire boob job journey is a YouTube thing.
How have your boobs affected your life?
There's a Wikipedia page for boob.
Oh, there's boobphotos on freepick.com.
Don't know what that is.
Oh, it says AI generated.
So I don't think that's porn necessarily.
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It might be.
Yeah, it could be.
The subreddit asks women, what is the difference between the word boob and tits?
And there you go.
That's the first page.
So it's going to take me a few more clicks to get to Pornhub.
So check back in later.
I guess I'm going to keep working on that.
Follow Lydia's journey to get to Pornhub.
Yeah.
He then talks about like how watching a video and virtue signaling and liking something is giving people the same dopamine hit that actually volunteering would do.
Not exactly true, but whatever.
Again, sources.
Yeah.
Well, he worked for the governments.
Yeah.
He doesn't even want to get into how they figured this out.
Yeah, you can't get into it.
Yeah.
That would be classified.
Yeah, that's classified.
Can you imagine what all we could get away with if we just said that on our show?
If we just said whatever we wanted, yeah, if we just said whatever we wanted, but like, you know, rooted in what we think is the truth or whatever.
And then we're like, because we said so, you know, you just got to trust us.
It would be a lot easier to do to do this show.
But no, folks, we want to get you sources.
Yeah, we actually care if we get something wrong.
Yeah.
And I think he tries to bring it back to like actual what they think of as traffic.
The communication, but then the encounter happens fast.
Very quick.
And then if there was an abductions, it happens even faster than you can understand.
Right.
So, and that was where Mariana was talking to me after a conversation with Jenna and John DJ Silver about how like, you know, we just nothing against any places, but like, you know, the target in Brentwood, right next to Ralph.
They're exit of 65.
He's like, dude, that's like the hot spot for something like that because, or it could be a hot spot because like literally they shove them in the car, slam the door, and they're out on the interstate.
And then the chase is on.
And maybe the person hadn't even finished putting their groceries in their car yet.
Yeah.
100%.
How fast it happens.
It's runaways.
That's the big thing.
That manual I talked about, they get shared, and that's just what we know of where it gets shared, you know, millions of times.
Talks to, it teaches the groomers to get the child to run away.
Because the bad guys are very smart.
Oh, they're, you know, it's, it's one, if you're sexually attracted to kids, it's legal, right?
So you have to do everything you possibly can, just like any other crime, to not get caught.
Yeah, okay.
You know, so if you're addicted to drugs, you're getting your drugs, right?
You're doing everything you possibly can to get that drug and use that drug.
I just love this random thing about like a target in Brentwood.
Yeah.
Nothing gets that target, but it's really close to the interstate.
So that's a hot spot.
Yeah.
What is happening?
I don't know.
Oh, man.
They talk a little more about phone safety and they're not going to let their kids on phones, which I kind of agree with.
The great unifier.
Yeah.
And that's why I'm voting for Trump in 2029, 2028, I guess.
No, vote for him in 2029, please.
I'll write him in to the to the non-existent election.
Yes, exactly.
So I got to get to this part.
There's a lot of God's stuff.
If I were this guy's sibling and like it turns out my death was a part of God's plan for him, I'd be like, oh, that seems a little unfair to me.
Seems like, why should my death be a part of God's plan for you to do something?
That's why not the other way?
Why is it?
It's always God knew what was going to happen and God works in these ways and God does all this stuff, which, okay, man, I just feel like that's kind of self-centered, but all right.
Yeah.
More phone safety stuff, which some of it is good message, but it's not really what people are donating millions of dollars to you for, I don't think.
And they talk about Tebow again or like, maybe since Tim Tebow is involved, more people will be talking about this invisible crime called pedophilia that no one talks about.
It's like, yeah, really?
I feel like a lot of people are pretty upset about it a lot.
Yeah.
Interesting thing here, though, because there's a part where they talk about church, and I will give Matt Murphy credit for being like, yeah, you know, there's also problems with church people.
Yeah, sort of some problems with the church people sometimes, but he only sort of barely says it.
Because these clearly the people in this, who are the hosts are super religious.
Yeah, that's unsurprising.
So the case I've been making again is that there's a lot of issues being blended together.
And you could try to take the best interpretation, which is that, oh, they're kind of working on all this, but then you hear something like this.
And let me know how this sits with you.
That, you know, are willing to learn about it, to not let their kids be a victim of what this is.
And, you know, and before we go on to the next, I do have a question I would like to ask you.
And, you know, how many kids have you personally got to rescue?
I've actually never counted.
With what we've done between Afghanistan and Ukraine and here in the United States, we're definitely in the thousands.
I've never counted it.
Between families, that was how I got my start really with Lightshine.
Before the 501c3 was approved, before we launched the task force, I was turned into this meme that showed Biden.
I'm not going to get political.
It's just what the meme said.
I didn't create it.
Sure.
You know, it showed Biden walking out the door, not doing anything about it.
And they put a picture of me in uniform, standing up and doing anything about it.
And it got us $300-something thousand dollars in donations in a weekend to do Afghanistan rescues.
And, you know, we still have one of our partners to get people out of Afghanistan if necessary.
It seems like.
I do not agree with us leaving and leaving all the people that supported us behind for them, their family to be slaughtered by the Talibanite.
Not on my watch.
Right.
You know, so, and many of us, you know, stood up and did something.
So, and then that carried into Ukraine.
We started rescuing orphans.
And if they did that with all that, great.
I mean, in the meantime, supporting operations in Africa and the Caribbean and everywhere else, you know, financially or intelligence or support, however.
And then everything we do with Light Shine and our partners, I really have no idea.
I don't count.
I just keep going.
You know, because it's not about a number for me.
It's really just about that, you know, and I'll never meet any of these kids or any of these people.
I had a couple advertisers text me when they made it to America.
That was kind of cool.
But, you know, like, it's she for sure was asking, like, physically, how many of these kids have you held in your arms as you rescued them?
From like, that is, I'm virtually certain, not 100%, I'm virtually certain that was what was in her mind because that's what you would think from this guy's whole pitch.
Like, you, Matt Murphy, specifically, like, how many of you rescued?
Yeah.
You know, and then he's like, Yeah, and I'll never meet any of them.
It's like, wait, what?
Yeah.
And keep in mind, his whole thing was, I left the other place because then I was just doing fundraising.
I want to get back in this shit.
You know, I wanted to be boots on the ground type thing.
So, like, I don't blame her for being like, oh, cool.
So, like, how many, how many physical rescues have you done?
Also, like, like, the smart thing to do if you're leading a nonprofit and you're asked something like that, like, he is no longer affiliated with the one that he started when he says thousands and stuff.
We have no idea if that is with Sentinel, if that's with Operation Light Shine, or if that's combined or something that also says they maybe did that.
But, like, if this is your opportunity, like, you're trying to get people ultimately, I know he says he wants to get out of fundraising or whatever, but that's his role when he does stuff like this: is to get people to donate money to their nonprofit organization.
He should be touting Sentinel Foundation's numbers at this point and trying to emphasize that, but he doesn't.
Yeah.
It's just a, you know, it's, it's that generational fact, right?
I just, I just, I don't, you know, I just want people to see that there's, there's, there's still good in this world, even in the darkest days, even the most evil, you know, places.
It's, it's, it's, it's that, never that child's fault, right?
And it's not that child's fault that evil became on them.
And if we can pull them out of that and they can live a long, happy life and they can, you know, have children one day and succeed and grow and live not just an American dream, just live, live, live life, right?
What God intended.
And, you know, I've done my part.
Anything else while we got Matt in here?
I have, it's more of a statement, just that I never realized that, you know, drugs, for instance, you sell them once and they're done.
They can be confiscated and they're sold, right?
If they're compensated by the government, there's money there.
With a child, they can be sold five to ten times in one day.
So to me, just five to ten times in one day.
God, if that does not wake something up.
Is there like a child stock market?
Like, what?
Yeah.
I mean, call me naive.
What is that?
Like, what are they talking about?
I don't know.
I honestly do not know.
Yeah.
Is it impossible that something like that has ever happened?
I guess it's not impossible, but like, think of the infrastructure that would have to go into whatever that is.
Where like, if regularly, like all the time children were sold five times in a day, like what?
I don't, is she talking about a different country, maybe?
Like, is it a, I guess if it's like a really terrible, war-torn country where there's no government or authorities and it's just like pure hell, like, I guess, but I don't know, just stuff like that.
You're like, there's no, I don't understand how that could be true.
Yeah, I really don't know.
I'm like trying to do a quick little Googling and stuff just to see.
Google like Guinness World Record for most times child sold.
I was like, yeah, I was trying to be careful.
Like, I don't want to type something that's going to make me answer.
I just said children are sold is all I said.
Not going to do it.
No, I got a Wikipedia article for child selling.
Okay.
And some of the most depressing, awful stuff in the world, obviously.
Yeah.
So there's, there's child selling and it's like, but this is for non-exploitative adoption for selling for exploitation.
See trafficking of children.
Oh, okay.
This is where I want to give him like a slight amount of credit.
Care of society and taking care of the most vulnerable and doing something, you know, where that living, living like Jesus.
Yeah.
You know, if churches started living like Jesus, you know, and, you know, following, following what Jesus said, I think the world would be a much better place.
But they're not.
You know, you got pastors flying around in private jets and, you know, living in mansions.
Church Corruption Revelations00:03:14
I just don't understand the church right now.
I know there's some good churches out there, but overall, the church is just corrupted and just as evil.
I wish you could see the look on the host's face when he said that.
It looked like a masterful performance of like throwing shade, but saying sure.
Yeah.
His face was just like dead.
I don't know how closely associated with any given church they are, but like I mean, I didn't mind that sentiment out of them.
That's nice.
Yeah.
That's what I'm always asking.
Like, can't anyone, a conservative or Christian actually follow what Jesus said at all?
Yep.
With a couple of churches here in Nashville, we're working with them on their, on how they can amplify their digital presence to bring people back, right?
And there's an opportunity to educate when they're doing that.
You know what I mean?
Rhea, is there anything else while we got mad in here?
You know, maybe I'm reading into it, but he's like, yeah, so we work with churches on their digital stuff.
Like, you know, after Matt Murphy just bashed churches, it felt like house pedophiles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's kind of, well, he didn't say that.
No, no.
It felt like he was kind of maybe being like, you know, X-Nay on the urchin.
We work with churches.
Who knows?
Oh, yeah.
And here we go.
Just one child.
It's wrong.
That's right.
But there's millions.
And this is a global issue.
It's an American issue.
And with the immigration that we've allowed to come in, we don't know who's here.
We have no clue who's or how many of them are here or what's happening to them.
I mean, it's hard enough for Americans to find a job.
Where are they working?
I'd like to know.
I mean, and you know, what's happening to the kids?
So there's a lot of questions and answers that need to come out.
And the government needs to get more involved.
But charities like the Sentinel Foundation that I'm part of and president of and many others are doing a lot of good work.
And we need help.
We need support to be able to even try to put a den in this.
And I hate to say put a den in something bad happening to children, but it's the scale that this problem is.
If you took every law enforcement agent, this is a fact from the mouth of one of the top guys in homeland security.
If you took every operative cop, law enforcement, federal, state, and local in the United States of America and you put them to work child crimes, they would not be able to keep up with the caseload.
Wow.
That's crazy.
And that's crazy.
It's a fact, statistical fact, based on the amount of cases and time cops have.
So just imagine what's actually being investigated.
Less than 1%.
He said, if you took every single police officer in the whole country, in federal, state, and local, and put them to work child crimes, they would not be able to keep up with the caseload.
It's like, yeah, doubtful.
I don't think that's true.
I mean, unless, like, unless you throw in like just other child protective service foster, whatever, like, if you just throw in every single thing that's called related to children, yeah, maybe, but I, I, that still seems kind of hard to believe to me.
Yeah.
But it's all these claims where you're like, how do you even quantify that?
Like, I try to research it, but it's like, I don't, how do I, how do I check whether or not if you took every cop and put them together and do like a time study of like their work.
Forms and Financial Arrangements00:09:05
Yeah.
Like sit down and track everything related to the job, extrapolate out, build-in relief factor.
All right.
We are almost ready to wrap up.
Just have to go through the whole thing one more time from the beginning.
Just to make sure we have it.
Yeah.
Was that a pretty good rewind noise?
Uh, no.
Okay.
Pretty bad.
Uh, pretty bad.
Could it?
I mean, I would say it's like that was my impression of your just say was fine.
I don't know.
Yeah, but then I'd be lying.
I feel like there are worse ways to do rewind noises than what I just did.
Anyway, yeah, probably.
All right.
There is something, there's a little nugget here that is, is, I think, might be important tax form-wise.
We still haven't gotten to the tax forms.
We did an alternate universe, but I realized it wasn't good enough.
And so I cut it.
And we will get to it in this universe, I think, later once we get our shit together better on it.
But this is an important little nugget for that.
What can we do to help?
What can we do to help?
What does the foundation need?
You guys are going.
You guys are, I mean, it's just getting started in my opinion.
Well, you know, traditionally in the what can we do to help?
Where do people go?
That's when you're like, oh, okay.
Thank God it's wrapping up.
I just look at the playhead here.
22 more minutes after this.
No way.
Growth is.
You know, this foundation has been rescuing kids since 2016 all over the planet.
And they've done that on behalf of some of the biggest foundations that you've heard of, you know?
And I'll keep that, you know, because I just, I just don't like to toss names and things around like that.
But I'll throw people who aren't doing their job under the bus real quick.
But, you know, I'll, but when it comes to supporters, I, you know, I'll leave it like it is.
I'll just say this.
The foundation has been very fortunate that a couple wealthy individuals have agreed to, as of now, and that could always change, pay all the admin costs to the foundation.
You know, people's salaries and necessary, everything that we need on that side.
So we've been very fortunate on that side.
We can always use more to hire more people, right?
God, I want to get that sound effect now and just prank you with all that.
I hate it.
So this is very interesting.
I think I, crap, I think I left some of the discussion of this in there, but I think I left in the edit.
Hopefully folks are here, have heard, that I can't find him listed as president anywhere, Matt Murphy.
I think this is why.
And also, I think this is why there's like no, there aren't the payroll costs, sorry, the high paid costs in the forms.
We'll go through it.
Like I said, a little more.
But I was thinking about it and I was like, wait, that, I mean, on one hand, you might think, oh, okay, wealthy individual paying all the like overhead admin.
That's great, right?
Because that means all the rest is going to the whatever.
On the other hand, I actually think accounting wise and IRS wise.
I think you're still supposed to.
I don't, yeah, I don't think that works because then you're totally deceiving people on your expense percentage, you know?
Like you're saying, oh, we're 100% basically or whatever, you know, we're 90 something percent.
But it turns out you're accepting a donation one way or the other.
Who knows what this arrangement is?
Like, I don't know.
I mean, maybe it's all above board, but like that means it has to be in some other entity or organization.
Yeah, yeah, that's not cool.
If it's in another entity, but then, but then even still.
Yeah, you, you would have to list it.
Yeah, yeah, you would.
And when people give gifts for nonprofits, especially like high dollar gifts, you can put for it to be used for this purpose.
Like that's how underwriters, I'm thinking about like nonprofit community theater situations and you have underwriters for productions.
They give a large gift and it is to be used for this particular production slot in the season.
I'm pretty sure that a high wealth donor can donate a significant amount and their gift is earmarked, designated for costs related to this.
And then, you know, there's probably like language about if the gift is over and beyond those expenses, then what do you do with the remainder kind of thing?
But yeah, I don't think you just get to skip out on that.
I want to emphasize that I'm speculating.
It could be that this donation is in their paperwork and that they're also still not listing this guy.
It's all seems weird.
Here's what I want to say.
I want to say there is a possibility here.
A possibility that is consistent with what we're seeing is there are some of these organizations that donate to each other lots of money, hundreds of thousands, sometimes half a million or more dollars.
Yeah.
Now, what if Sentinel Foundation is giving a very large grant to an organization and then that organization is paying Matt Murphy, but then conveniently, no one knows what that is or where to check when you list their pay.
And then also, as I've discovered in the tax forms, they don't put anything about where their money goes in detail.
Yeah.
It'll just be like, well, we sent 500,000 to the something foundation.
We don't know what that is.
Very ambiguous purposes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And sometimes they don't even put it in.
Right.
It doesn't look like this is policed very hard.
So if you were trying to get a lot of money out of a nonprofit, as in if you were trying to like benefit a lot, if you pay yourself that, or if the nonprofit pays you, it has to list that.
And it's pretty prominent.
Yeah.
It's like one of the first things in the 990 that you see.
If instead you were hypothetically giving a bunch of money to another organization, for one, it's not clear to me how much they're even putting that.
For two, when they do put it, it's the bottom fucking page where it's like, oh, we gave this to that.
And three, hypothetically, that organization might be paying and no one's going to check.
No one's going to think, hey, I need to check out this Sentinel Foundation.
Oh, look, like actually they're not paying people too much.
Oh, what a good organization.
Their admin costs are low.
Their salaries are not even, you know, like nothing.
Yeah.
But meanwhile, it's actually through a sequence of transfers back and forth that they're putting this pay.
What if there is no wealthy couple?
Right.
You know?
So either way, I mean, there could be a third option, right?
That we're not really gaming out here.
But of the two things that we can think of that are happen that are potentially happening, either way, it could be weird.
Like, again, for that, that first situation, if there is a wealthy couple or family or donor or whatever that is paying for all those overhead costs, now you have a situation where someone is reducing their like taxable income potentially by like, like, how are they claiming things on their end too?
It all really depends on where that is.
Because like I said, I'm guessing that that's in another entity because he's not listed in the documents.
He's not listed and there isn't his salary in the tax documents.
So I'm guessing that means it's in another entity.
Now, if it's not in another entity, that honestly could be worse because then where is he in the paperwork?
Why isn't he in the 990 if he's the president?
Or is he just bullshitting and he's not the president?
I doubt that's he's out there doing this.
And, you know, like I think that would be incredibly noticeable.
So all kind of three of those options that I just laid out are weird.
I don't know what it is.
It's entirely possible I'm missing something.
Something feels very weird about what's going on here.
So we're going to keep perusing those tax documents, see if we have an episode out of that.
I'm not sure.
I think that a lot of that is just, and a lot of the reason I cut it is a lot of it is just like, oh, they don't have to put where that money went.
And we're like, great.
I don't know where the fucking money went.
These forms are not helpful at all.
Yeah.
And it's like, and it mostly checks out, like, it's not, there's nothing like glaring in there, except this.
This is the one thing where I'm like, he should be listed in the fucking 990.
This interview that we're going through, remember, is two years old or a little bit more.
It's almost three years old.
Yeah, he should be listening.
So it wasn't like a delay.
Yeah.
I'll spot him 2023 or something.
Yeah.
But like in 2024, unless he got fired, you know, I could check.
I don't think he got fired, but that would be weird.
Like maybe like if you, yeah, I can't, I'm trying to think.
There aren't that many possibilities that would make that make sense.
I think even if he were fired, they should show up at some point.
It still should show up because you indicate the number of months.
Yeah.
You don't just go like, oh, well, we don't have to do it.
You know, like you don't do that.
So the point I was making is we may do a financial focused episode.
Folks can let us know if they're interested in that.
And also we need to see if there's anything more we come up with along those lines because it was mostly dead ends before.
Except us, like I said.
Next episode, we're likely taking a little break to do a one-off adventure monster of the week in the form of milk.
But next episode in this series, I want to go over some of the actual numbers and actual how ridiculous a lot of the claims are on trafficking, what it actually is, what we can say about it.
Morals Under Siege00:05:01
There's a lot of interesting stuff there because it is just such a moral panic, you know?
But at the same time, you know, there's also, I want to be accurate, like there's a sliver of reality here and there's some bad stuff happening in the world, obviously.
But the amount of money that this raises and the amount that MAGA gets all fearful, it keeps them in there.
You know, like the fascists need fear all the time.
You're afraid of trans people.
You're afraid of gay people.
They're afraid of everything.
They're terrified.
It's the manly party.
They're so fucking macho, but they're afraid of literally everything all the time.
And this is a major thing.
It's a way that they can have that nebulous enemy that they think is Bill Clinton and the left or whatever or Nancy Pelosi and all those people.
To illustrate that, I want a final clip from this interview.
I think this might illustrate that pretty well.
You know, if you look at it, being a Christian, a child is the most innocent and closest to God, right?
Yes.
And because of that, evil is always after them, right?
And it is our duty as parents, not just parents as adults, as honorable human beings, to take our head out of the sand and turn this country back, the course back of this country, right?
Where we're protecting our children in all means.
But as Christians, and as warriors, like the guys that I work with and gals at the Sentinel Foundation, our job, and we sent our calling is to go out there and rescue the most vulnerable children, right?
And protect God's, you know, his innocent creation.
It's all it is.
And unfortunately, evil right now has free reign on our children because of technology, because of the internet, because of iPhones and iPads, and just because of the society, the morality, and the values decaying.
And, you know, I think if there's one thing that we have left in this country that we can agree on no matter our religion, our children, you know, I'm sorry, our political affiliations, where we're raised, you know, what color our skin is, you know, what we choose to do with our sex lives and identify as all this other crap that's going out there.
We live in probably the most divided period in American history, right?
And a house divided will not stand.
Oh, it is.
Said Abraham Lincoln.
Amen, brother.
And, you know, that's going to talk for about four more hours on that one.
That's right.
But if there is one thing, I believe it's the only thing that we have left as Americans, as Christians, and as parents and adults that can do something is to rally behind protecting our children.
Because once we can't protect our children, there's just one simple fact that I want to leave with America.
We will not have America anymore.
Right.
Once we lose this generation, once we've lost our children, and that's not just sexual exploitation and trafficking, but that's just to all the other things that are after them, their minds and their morals right now.
Once we've not protected our children as a majority, we don't have America anymore.
That's what I'd like to leave.
That's the challenge I would like to leave with adults.
That's just a fact.
And I don't want to know what the next thing looks like.
It's just a fact.
There you go.
There you have it.
So this guy who allegedly does commando style raids to arrest pedophiles that no one else seemingly could, the whole police doesn't want to arrest.
They don't touch them.
On foreign land.
He's also like, and also they're after your kids' morals.
And once we lose that, we lose the whole country.
So, I think that illustrates the very simple math that they're doing, which is keep you afraid, keep you afraid, allegedly.
This is because a nonprofit is not supposed to be explicitly for a political candidate or all, yeah, I forget those rules, but not as a 501c3, yeah, right.
And so, it's never any of that, but it's all this vague, like they're after our morals, they're after their he did let slip before too, where he's like, They're they're trying to you know convert your child's sexual identity, essentially, in so many words.
So, the message is loud and clear: the leftists are coming for your children, and this organization needs your money to shoot them with guns, basically.
Yeah, in so many words.
I didn't even mean it like that.
No, I was doing it.
That was me doing it.
Yeah, and that's what I'll leave you with.
So, much more to talk about with this moral panic.
Really interesting stuff.
But I think we might be taking a little break, a little detour to talk about milk.
Can't wait.
The woke are after your milk.
Did you know?
So, next time on Where There's Woke.
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Milk Detour00:00:08
We see kids now, five, six years old, addicted to porn.
Well, he worked for the governments.
Yeah, he doesn't even want to get into how they figured this out.