WTW114: Back to AmericaFest, Where the Grift Oerfloweth
Thomas and Lydia dissect AmericaFest’s conservative grift, exposing its two-tiered structure—headliners like Shapiro and Carlson on Day 1, then sponsorships and "Patriot Mobile" infomercials on Day 2. They scrutinize Jason Aldean’s racially charged song Try That in a Small Town, tied to a lynching site, while mocking his promotion of the Sentinel Foundation, which claims child trafficking rescues in Peru and Uganda with vague MOUs and no verifiable results. Skepticism peaks over blurred personnel images, military rhetoric, and leadership inconsistencies—like Matt Murphy’s missing tax records—hinting at a potential scam masquerading as philanthropy. [Automatically generated summary]
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Hello and welcome to Where There's Woke.
I'm Thomas.
That over there is Lydia.
How you doing?
Oh, hi.
Doing well.
What's going on here?
Well, you know, I have Vivaldi on my mind.
So.
Okay, well, so here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
When I originally started covering this, there's so much talking about America Fest with 3Ks.
There's so.
Yeah.
There's so much.
And then I got really excited about this thing that I want to tell you all about.
And then, of course, I was like, all right, we'll just do this in order.
And then I get buried in a million things, you know, to go in order.
Then after we finally caught up and finished that last one we got out after some hours of classical music research and, you know, getting our heads straight on that.
Consideration of career changes.
Yeah.
I was like, all right, let's just skip right to the thing.
There's a whole bunch in day two.
Day two video is eight hours long.
I've watched it all.
The theme of day two is it's grift day.
I mean, every day is grift day, but this is like, I mean, these people are pretty savvy event planners.
I remember, God, I think it was 2016.
I remember along the way of, you know, basically everyone thinking Hillary was going to win it easily.
I remember watching the Democratic convention and the Republican convention.
And I remember, I think the Republican one was first.
Yeah, that sounds different.
And it was just like, sucked.
It just wasn't good.
And it was like, who's running this thing?
And like, and then the Democratic one was like really like sharp and the quality and the showmanship and the just the technical stuff was like way, way better.
And it all felt like, yeah, no, that's about right.
It's like, we've got a party that probably has people who knows how to do stuff and then this disaster.
Right.
But not any longer.
That's no longer the case.
I think that they've had enough time to build out a network of fellow white Christian nationalists, essentially.
And they've got this thing I've talked about already, but the tech is insane.
So all that is to say, I think they did a smart idea of planning too, because day one, they didn't really go.
That was like the half day and they got the headliner we already did.
Ben Shapiro and what's his name on one day one?
Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson, like that's pretty big.
Yeah.
They weren't super heavy on the griff.
There's a little bit.
And then day two, I think it's like, all right, sneak in all the sponsored stuff.
You know, like sneak in all the like, this is cell phones, but for conservatives.
Yeah.
This is fucking watermelons, but for conservatives.
Just everything is but for conservative.
You don't want to lead off with that, right?
Cause that's going to turn everybody off.
You need to like sneak it in the middle.
It can't be too close towards the end because then people are starting to tune out and not picking up on.
I'm sure the sponsors would be bargaining for their time slots as well.
So it's like a good, you know, it just makes sense like how they did it.
It sucks to see that they're kind of savvy and have gotten better at a lot of this stuff.
And this organization, I mean, it's just so, it's so full of money now.
So they've probably got just really experienced event planners and tech people and stuff, which is, it sucks.
No one should work for them.
They should all quit.
But there's a lot of Christians in this country.
That's the thing is watching this, you know, it's all like availability heuristic or whatever.
It's whatever you're seeing.
But when I watch this for eight straight hours, it's like, shit, everyone's a Christian, huh?
Like, no wonder.
No wonder it's so hard.
We don't really see every day, you know, in California, like, or even in anyone's life, like every day I want to come across a random sampling of America.
Just like, I just want to see.
Just like a reminder.
Yeah, just to give me, like, I want to get my, you know, that thing they did where they ask, I mean, honestly, both parties are bad at this, but Republicans are stupider at it where they ask, like, what percentage of the Democratic Party is gay?
And they're like, 90, 95%.
Like, what are you talking about?
Yeah, what percentage is trans?
30% or whatever.
It's just these wild numbers.
And you're like, that's stupid.
And then the thing that Democrats get wrong is like, okay, what percentage of Republicans are rich?
And we estimate way too high on that, which is like, it's just funny because like that is wrong, but also it's like, well, that's who controls the party.
Right.
Like, that's what people are represented.
Whereas their thing about us is a fake thing where everyone's gay.
Right.
Like party isn't controlled by like big trans.
They just pretend it is.
Point is, it breaks my heart to see competence on their side, you know, and it's gotten really competent in terms of this stuff.
So here I am watching this day two.
There's all kinds of funny like sponsor stuff I want to talk about.
There's all kinds of, I mean, there's a lot of speakers I wanted to talk about.
They do a little debate, which I, I mean, yeah, I think was a good idea.
They're like, hey, in the spirit of Charlie Kirk, here's a debate.
Should we legalize marijuana?
On one hand, they don't have like a liberal or anything, but they do have like they do have a difference of opinion on their side.
Yeah, they have a libertarian versus some god-awful right-wing guy that like, it's funny because he comes across normal at first and then he just is so like, oh, it needs to be illegal morally.
We can't have it.
You know, it's like, okay.
So they do a debate and it's kind of funny to see, it's funny to see the tolerance for debate go up when they're virtue signaling about it.
And they're like, Charlie loved debate and that's why blah, blah, blah.
And then like they'll forget about that.
And then it seems like there's a ton of hostility towards other viewpoints, you know, and then it kind of ebbs and flows.
And then in the middle, right pretty much smack dab in the middle of day two, Jason Aldean, who I recognize the name from the try that in a small town bullshit that just seemed like really racist.
I don't know.
I didn't really, I don't think we dug too much into that, but, or I didn't anyway.
I don't think we did it for the show or anything.
Seemed pretty racist.
It just seemed my impression was like, oh, that looks like you're saying try that thing typically associated with urban people in a place where white people.
Patriot Mobile Controversy00:14:06
We'll see what happens to you.
Who knows?
Yeah.
And in the midst of that, they just quickly name dropped something that I was like, I'm going to check what this is.
It seems kind of interesting.
And that's when I went down a whole thing because they name-dropped something that I think might be a multi-million.
I mean, I guess this isn't in this day and age, this isn't particularly impressive, but somewhere in the neighborhood of like tens of millions of dollars.
There's a couple different organizations.
I'm going to focus on one.
I don't, I haven't checked all the numbers for these, but something like in the neighborhood of 10 million low tens in terms of like a couple years worth of revenue, that's all going to something that I think is 94% fake.
Oh, wow.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure.
I want to emphasize just, you know, allegedly in case the fascists take over, like, I don't have any non-public information.
Right.
I'm going to tell you some stuff I've found and you're not doing like forensic accounting.
Yeah.
No one's hired by a firm to do anything.
Yeah.
Light forensic accounting.
No, just but again, it's like based off of public information.
Yeah, it's just my impression.
It's my impression.
Right.
And it's wild.
I couldn't stop looking at it.
So we haven't even taken our first break.
We're going to take our first break.
And then I think we'll start with that Jason Aldean thing and go through it a little bit first.
And then we'll get to where they name dropped this thing and we'll be on our merry way.
Nice.
So, hey, please support the show, patreon.com/slash where there's woke.
We'll take a break.
Get to it.
Really fast.
We're out.
We're out of time.
Hurry.
Okay.
So I do want to play this just to, you know, get the context.
Govalde?
Plus.
Hey, it's Brittany Aldean.
Mornings around here can be pretty hectic, but no matter how crazy it gets, it's in these moments I think about what's really important.
My family, our faith, and the freedom to live our lives the way we choose.
That's why I love Patriot Mobile.
Patriot Mobile isn't just a phone service, it's a community that upholds the values we treasure: family, faith, and freedom.
Join me and my family with Patriot Mobile today.
It's a phone with a bald eagle carrying a flag, of course.
So get that ad.
Do you think they actually use Patriot Mobile?
Well, yes, because they're, you'll see.
And that's just the funny thing.
It took me like a few of these to realize.
Like, I thought my initial impression was like, oh, that's just a little commercial they stuck in there for the first like one or two.
And then I realized, like, oh, wait a minute.
What they're doing is they do the commercial.
That's who's sponsoring and sometimes a part of the talk that comes next.
Oh, yeah.
So that's not just like, oh, quick commercial.
Like, this is, they're heavily involved.
You'll see.
All right.
We'll skip this music I've had here for a while.
There's the least charismatic CEO.
It's a thumb who comes on and talks about this guy.
It's a thumb/slash the thing from like Candyland.
That's like the purple thing.
What am I thinking of?
Or it's like the from Candyland.
They're like this, like, it's like mud or something.
What is that?
It's like a child.
There's just something that's like a formless blob, basically.
Okay.
This guy is like melting.
Like, he looks like his face is melting, but he's a thumb.
Greatest country in the world.
But I'm, hey, you didn't come here to hear me speak.
So they're going to introduce some other people.
Who cares?
But we can hear him do his little pitch here.
My story very quickly.
Anyway, Patriot Mobile is America's only Christian conservative cell phone service provider.
How do you call us a Christian or how does that come about?
Well, it's pretty easy.
We put God first in everything we do.
He's at the helm of our business.
Wow.
We're his stewards and we live by biblical principles.
He's really good with phones.
And here's a real beauty: we carve out a portion of every dollar and donate back to causes like this.
Conservative causes.
Zero applause because everyone else.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And you know, how's your cell coverage?
I feel like that's when Charlie took a real Patriot Mobile.
He came to us or we talked and he says every single sponsor that I've seen is like, and that's why Charlie just fucking loved this thing.
He just is all about it.
It might be true because like, I mean, he also was good at getting money.
Like they say that was his main skill was like, that's Barry Weiss, too.
Like some of these people, that is a good skill.
I don't mean morally good.
It's a skill that helps in this kind of work.
Yeah.
Politicians.
Yeah, politicians love it.
But every single one of them will be like, and that's why Charlie loved it.
He loved the product.
And we've talked together all the time.
We're best friends.
It is an admirable thing to do.
All companies should put God first.
And that's what we want to really do.
And I encourage everyone in here to put God first.
And so last thing I want to do is I want to introduce a couple of inclusive.
Okay.
So then he's going to introduce his wife, who's the COO.
Okay.
And then Brittany, and then I think that later, Jason Aldean.
I think he comes in a bit later as I'm scrolling through.
So let's skip to that.
Hey, it's all good.
Glad to be here.
Yes.
We were just hanging out in the green room.
Anyhow, we want to ask you some questions because we know that you've been through some hard times, but you've held your head up strong.
And both of you guys, in 2021, you came out powerfully for the cause and the movement, and you said things that people didn't necessarily agree with in the country world, and you went forward.
How did you protect your family?
How did you continue to be strong?
And what kind of influence did you have on Jason?
Well, with Patriotism, you know me.
I'm very outspoken.
I'm very bold.
I just don't really care what people think, which I think is a characteristic that the Lord gave me and knew that I was going to be in this position, honestly.
I'm just used to people criticizing us, criticizing everything that we do.
So at that point, me and Jason in the kitchen one day were like, okay, we feel this way.
We know so many people do, but a lot of people are afraid to speak out or lose their job, lose their career, maybe a record deal.
So is this something that because of the position we're in, we're going to just full seam ahead and talk about it and say, this is where we stand.
We know a lot of you are with us.
Let's go.
Let's get on this train together.
Talk about specification.
Jason and I just decided from that point on, like, this is what we're doing.
That's right.
Yeah, I mean, I think we live in a country now where a lot of times, you know, if you're a Christian, you're made to feel like that's a bad thing, which is just not the way either one of us was raised.
It's not how we feel.
And, you know, we're in a unique situation to where, you know, a lot of things we do are kind of under the microscope as a couple and as individuals.
And I don't know.
I just feel like when you're in the situation we're in, you kind of have this obligation to speak out when you hear, you know, hear and see things that just don't seem right.
And I'll say with us, you know, it's, yeah, I think, and, you know, for us, it's just been kind of being unapologetic about our beliefs and how we feel.
It's like you can think we're crazy.
You don't have to agree with it.
That's fine, but this is how we feel.
And you're not going to, you know, tell us any different.
That's right.
And I think we all appreciate it, particularly when you released your song, Try That in a Small Town.
I think that gave racism.
Yeah.
I think that gave a lot of people courage, right?
And there's a lot of people who just felt like, finally, we've got somebody who's willing to risk their career because you risked a lot to do that.
Well, yeah, like I said, I mean, I think we live in a culture where if somebody does it like, you know, or they read something the wrong way or maybe don't necessarily agree with what you say or do, you know, we live in a culture where they go out and just try to tear everything down, make things about something completely different just to tear this down, something they don't agree with or maybe don't see eye to eye on.
And, you know, I just think that like the American people and country music fans are a lot smarter than that.
I think they knew what I was saying.
I think everybody was kind of tired of what was going on at the time.
I just felt like it was something that needed to be said and the song kind of spoke for itself.
I mean, it's one of the biggest songs I've ever had.
So I watched that and I was like, oh, was it a case of were people like overreacting, whatever?
And just like refreshing on that, just looking at a New York Times article from July 2023.
Country Music Television has pulled a music video for the song Try That in a Small Town by the country music superstar Jason Aldean, which was filmed at the site of a lynching amid accusations that its lyrics and message are offensive.
The video released on Friday was shot in front of the Maury County Courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee, a site known for the 1927 mob lynching of Henry Choate, an 18-year-old black man, and is interspersed with violent news footage, including protests.
An American flag is draped between the building's central pillars, while Aldean strumming a guitar lists what he imagines is big city behavior that would not be well received in a small town.
Like carjack an old lady, cuss out a cop, stomp on the flag.
Okay.
Wow.
Yeah.
When I was listening to them, there's a part of me that's like, oh, was it like misinterpreted?
And then you look at that and you're like, I don't know, man.
And in the article, he's quoted and it's like, there's not a single lyric in the song that references race or points to it.
It's like, yeah, but okay.
Either he's dumb or he, you know, is lying.
I don't really think, like, I think it's obvious what it is.
Or it could be the kind of thing where, again, these folks who are racists in this way, I think they think as long as they don't explicitly say racist stuff, but they're making points that are definitely racist, then they're not being racist.
I think they actually believe that a lot of the time.
Yeah, which is crazy to me, allusions to it within your lyrics and then doubling down on those allusions to it via the visuals in your music video.
Like those are deliberate choices at that point.
Yeah, like when you read that, it's like, is there some other independent reason you'd have it in front of a courthouse?
Is that a big like country music or music video spot?
Is there something really like special about that building, like architecturally, that speaks to you?
Yeah, that doesn't, it's not very plausible to me.
And not only that, I love how they always, everybody's always victims.
They're perpetual victims.
The song went to like fucking number one because all the racists were like, oh, you're offended by it.
So now I have to like it even more, which is their entire personality.
It's exhausting.
And so they talk about how, how did you guys deal with that and all that.
And they do talk about like their family and him touring.
And he's like, I don't like being away more than two weeks.
So I only do tours there two weeks.
I was like, okay, that's kind of nice family stuff, I guess, whatever.
And then we kind of get to this point.
But yeah, that's kind of our game plan.
Well, let's talk about your tour because I feel like we were living around the schedule with Brittany.
So Patriot Mobile was honored to sponsor the full throttle tour.
And it was awesome.
I could watch it every single, every single time.
But explain why you were willing to sponsor or I guess to team up with us to partner us.
Why of all the companies, Patriot Mobile was blessed basically to be your sponsor?
Well, a lot of companies, I don't think, like me anymore.
We love you.
We love them.
No, you know, I think that's one thing in my career over the years is that I don't want to align myself with somebody just for a paycheck or for whatever.
It's like if I partner up with somebody, I truly want to be invested in, you know, what they stand for, if it makes sense to me.
I just feel like people can read through those things, you know.
Yeah.
So then it's so funny to be like, oh, so this entire thing is Patriot Mobile commercial who also sponsored this tour.
Yeah.
And so that's why they're out here.
It's like an infomercial.
They're doing QVC or whatever.
Yeah, it's almost like the shopping network thing where they have the people talking.
You know what I mean?
Like it's because for a second, I was like, oh, they're just kind of having these country music people talk or whatever.
And you're like, oh, no, the whole thing is like a sponsorship.
Yeah, about why you should sign on to this mobile service.
And it's like not even the fun ones like this, you know, CD compilations that I would love listening to in the middle of the night whenever like they're trying to sign up.
I only like it when Ryan and Colin do it.
You lately?
Yeah, God, it's so good.
There's like, I could sing those from memory.
Anyway, if this happened in the middle of the night on my TV, I would not be able to sleep again.
It would be a nightmare.
So no thanks.
And then they start talking about this here.
This may seem irrelevant, but it'll come back a little later, so I'm going to play it.
Oh, and by the way, Jason might be a great golfer.
I've golfed with him or a kind of sort of.
I'm not a great golfer.
I'm so like, you're diving me out right now in front of all these people, man.
You know that's not true.
He was over at a different area, and I was in one area, and Brittany came through.
We let you play through, right?
And she was like, her and her foursome, they got out there, and Brittany goes, yeah, I'm not very good.
And she hit a shot that just went up here and landed right in front of the green.
I do relate to her defensiveness as both of the men on that stage are dismissing it as beginner's luck.
Even if it was, like, I do relate to that defensiveness.
Future Of Operations00:15:11
Like, how freaking dare you?
Like, yeah, the cattle.
I think the whole sexism at this place is just off the charts.
Like, I think he was joking because he said he wasn't good.
Maybe.
And you hope it's a self-deprecating thing.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's like, what do you mean, beginner?
Like, it's so weird.
Like, they just fall into these old-fashioned roles so easily.
They love it.
I don't know why.
I don't think she loves it, but that's what she signed up for.
And then it pretty much goes right through.
So we can hear this awkwardness before we get to the thing.
Say anything other than that, but you know, there's a big game tonight, right?
Yeah.
I know.
I don't think we're favored.
She graduated from Alabama.
So, well, you got one fan.
I have one fan.
Thank you.
I have one word.
Boomer.
What?
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's going to be a long night.
Is that the name of a quarterback?
I don't know.
Going back, I guess, a little bit towards business.
Okay, so here we go.
Why did you choose to sponsor a wife that's the COO?
She's my guy.
What did you notice then?
Well, the philanthropy that you guys do, we have a charity event we do every year with the Sentinel Foundation, and it raises so much money for child trafficking.
The amount of children we save per year is unbelievable.
Yeah, and we actually don't speak on it a ton.
I mean, socials occasionally, but we raised well over a million dollars this year, and there's just no telling how many kids that's going to save.
But the fact that you guys came on board and helped us with that and sponsored and just everything you guys stand for, family, your conservative feelings, your morals, everything about you guys is what we stand for.
So we couldn't be more proud to work with you.
Yeah, Sentinel Foundation.
I was like, okay, let me just check up on this.
Thank you.
Because that's exactly what I want to do.
Like, how many kids are you going to save?
Like, what?
What is happening?
Yeah.
So I do some research on the Sentinel Foundation.
And God, now I don't know where to begin.
I don't know where, I don't know where to start here because it's, man, there's a lot going on here.
I watched a lot of other videos, some interviews.
First off, I just, you know, I'm checking out their website and then I went and, you know, I'm looking up their financials and everything to try to see what's going on.
She said they raised a million dollars like on that thing.
And it turns out I don't think it was entirely clear there, but the golf thing was that, actually.
So each year they do.
That's like a charity.
At least I believe it was.
Or it's a coincidence because each year the Sentinel Foundation does like a charity golf thing to raise a bunch of money.
And so it could be coincidence, but I'm pretty sure that was what they're talking about.
So I just think that's interesting.
And so I'm like, Sentinel Foundation, what is this?
Okay, so let's just poke around.
I just want you, maybe, maybe, maybe I'll let you poke around.
I'm going to, here, I'll just send you.
I'm on their website.
Oh, you are.
Okay.
Go to the website and just poke around like you might if you were you, just or not you, if you were somebody just checking it out.
What's the about page?
You know, what's going on?
Normally, what I would do is, I would want to know who are like our key folks that are affiliated with this.
So, I look at about and I don't see anywhere listed about like a board of directors or anything that's like easily clickable.
However, I do see when I click on about Sentinel Operations, a banner image of people in like military garb and guns.
So, that's really interesting.
Yeah.
And then I scroll down and there's the who we are, and all of their faces are blurred out, sitting around eating food at a restaurant.
Yeah, it's a weird choice.
And so, I guess they're trying to keep them sort of secretive because it seems like they go out and like do like citizens' arrests or something.
Yeah.
Like, that's what this is.
Yeah, this is an organization that you're being told is saving untold numbers of children.
Yeah.
What from what?
And it's just a bunch of guys with blurred out faces.
So, that's also a little concerning.
Yeah, why don't you read their mission?
Yes.
Okay.
The mission statement.
Sentinel Foundation was founded with one goal in mind to end underage children being exploited around the world.
While this cause isn't new, our method to achieve it is.
We have the personnel, technology, the law enforcement support, and more importantly, the perseverance to see it through because no one else really cares that much about ending child trafficking.
The Sentinel Foundation operations team focuses on targeting elusive child traffickers that use highly skilled methods to find and exploit their victims.
Children in underdeveloped and under-resourced countries have virtually no defense against these networks.
Okay, so these are international efforts that they're doing, I guess.
And they've hyperlinked targeting elusive child traffickers.
Should I click on that?
Yeah, why not?
Why don't we?
All right.
And then I'm expecting, like, again, if this is a thing where it's like saving untold numbers of children and the hyperlink is the words are literally targeting elusive child traffickers.
I'm like, oh, this should be like news release.
We got this guy.
No, it just says we target the traffickers.
Yeah, why don't you read this page?
Okay.
We combine special operations methodology with emerging technology to target criminal traffickers, disrupt networks, and rescue victims.
We utilize the tactics, techniques, and procedures, TTPs, developed by the special operations community and the deployment of some of the most advanced commercial technology available.
With these tools, our counter-trafficking capabilities enhance the efforts by governments, law enforcement, and NGOs around the world.
Yeah.
But what?
Yeah.
I'm still trying.
At this point, I'm like, what do they do?
I don't like, what is happening?
And then the point of hyperlinking that, like, that could just live on your about page also.
This is the same thing.
It does, kind of.
But yeah, because there's a little more if you scroll down.
We leverage all tools at our disposal is on top of a photo of a guy with some sort of shotgun.
And it says very military, very like tactical, whatever.
Like, that's the just the whole site is that theme.
We support and train LEOs.
We provide training for both law enforcement officers and government forces around the world.
Interesting.
Collaborative efforts between law enforcement organizations, Sentinel, and local governments make a significant impact towards eradicating child exploitation and trafficking.
Well, I hear that and I'm like, ooh, public sector, let me FOIA.
See if I can get some contracts.
That's what Lydia would have done.
Next step, maybe.
Yeah.
Oh, and then they instill fear in those who exploit the vulnerable.
Yep.
Actually, you should read that.
The first sentence, especially, is a little important.
Sentinel Foundation by design conducts our counter-trafficking operations in the shadows and the background.
Yeah, interesting.
Keep reading.
Okay.
You will not see us highlight the details of our impact online or in the media.
Convenient.
Really convenient for a 501c3.
Yeah.
Wow.
Everything our team does is in support of someone else, and we do not seek the recognition for that work, but you seek money.
Yep.
Oh, they're just supporting other people.
Yeah.
This approach allows us the trust and ability to work on some of the world's most challenging problems, but you won't prove it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
That kind of does it for that page.
Let's see if there's anything else here.
What's interesting is like I'm trying to track down like my first thought.
I mean, obviously, I want to always keep my mind open, but my first thought, because I'm kind of a skeptical person, was like, this seems like I could have made this website.
You know, like, and then you sell GPT for the copy and get millions of dollars.
Like, could I just be like, yeah, well, the things I do, you don't know them.
They're from Canada, but they're awesome.
Like, those, you know, essentially.
Yeah, totally.
Because so far, it's like, well, we're in the shadows.
We don't, you know, we don't want credit for anything we do.
But I was looking around.
I was like, there's got to be something.
Is there something?
And they do have a few things they point to.
Oh, they have like the training section.
Kind of, yeah, but I mean, that also is like, we offer training.
You know, it's like, okay, I don't doubt that that's a thing they probably do.
Right.
But if I go to and I let they have to use all the terminology that's like, if you go to news and then like articles or something, it's like Q3 2025 sit rep report now available.
Oh, which is like, isn't that like situation report or something?
I can't.
It's some like military term, I think.
Sit rep. Oh, yeah.
Sentinel sit rep. So I was like, oh, maybe that'll tell us what's going on here.
We're going to look at that sit rep. Yeah, I'm on it too.
We get a map that has a bunch of locations.
It's like, oh, okay, they're working in the United States, El Salvador, Colombia, Peru, Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua, Ukraine, Uganda, Bangladesh, Thailand, Vietnam, Tajikistan.
Oh, that's a random one.
Oh, okay, because it's near Afghanistan and Uganda.
Okay.
That's just a map, though.
They don't, there's nothing that goes with it.
It's just these are places on a map.
So there's this one thing they point to here with Peru.
I guess we could read that.
Oh, you mean this image where they've put a push pin on top of Peru to make it very, very clear?
We've installed a giant push pin on Peru.
And it's made all the child traffickers quiver in their boots.
And there's the patos.
I think you can maybe read the impact delivered part.
All right.
This mission marked the official launch of Sentinel Foundation's operational expansion into South America.
Our team executed the MOU with Peruvian law enforcement leaders and delivered training in OSENT OSINT case building, surveillance techniques, and drone-based reconnaissance.
The training established a shared tactical workflow to support future rescues.
Additionally, our clinical director assessed aftercare infrastructure to ensure children can be safely supported post-rescue.
Okay.
And then some highlights and outcomes.
Memorandum of understanding.
Is that what it is?
Executed the memory.
I wasn't sure if there's a different, like, I know that one, but I wasn't sure if there was like a different military thing that's no, no, I think it's just, you know, civil service.
We had a memo of understanding with some people.
All right.
They're training.
Like, it's all so like, okay, what are you doing?
Like, conducted multi-day intelligence and surveillance.
Yeah, so here are their outcomes.
Okay.
Outcomes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Operational presence in Peru established.
Like we got off the plane.
We were there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Very cool outcome.
Partner agencies are now equipped to support joint field operations.
Get it ready.
They're all.
That essentially just means they're in contact with somebody there.
Yeah.
Aftercare partners identified and prepared for post-rescue support.
Sorry, just aftercare in this context of the second.
I know, sex.
After we did some real crazy stuff together.
Aftercare partners.
Everybody, we use the aftercare buddy system.
Yep.
Identify your aftercare partner.
And prepare and prepare.
Yep, prepare, prepare.
I love how their outcomes and they're all like prepared.
We're getting ready.
Yeah.
What's the last one?
Foundation laid for coordinated rescue mission deployment in Q4 plus.
Q4 plus.
You know, we don't have the Q4 report, even though.
After Q4.
We're in Q1.
I need my SIT rep. I need my Q4 sit rep. Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, they're still working on that.
There's just so much to talk about, I'm sure.
Okay, so that's nothing.
Yeah.
We got Uganda.
That could be something going on.
It's almost literally identical to the key highlights.
By the way, when I'm looking at the outcomes, it's right next to the key highlights.
They're almost identical.
So silly.
Yep.
And why don't you just check out the bullet points for Uganda?
Let's see if those.
Is it going to be the same thing?
It might be.
But they might have put it in a different order.
Okay.
Do you want key highlights or outcomes?
I mean, they're kind of the same, aren't they?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll start with key highlights.
Wait, hold on.
Because there is something there.
Yeah, multi-region rescue missions executed.
Okay, rescue missions executed, that sounds like something.
Maybe they did something.
Coordinated operations with OKOA plus special police, I guess a location in Uganda probably, I don't know.
Strengthened intelligence and communications network.
This is, oh man, this is when you had a do-nothing job and you have to put it on your resume and be like, what did I do at this job?
Well yeah, I identified operational efficiency refinements, for sure, a lot of this is just like bullshitty.
Now, that was just a highlight.
Now, if we get to my outcome section of my resume yeah, you're my.
What did you actually accomplish?
Well uh, I improved multi-agency coordination.
That was a big thing though okay, all right.
Uganda, in my time at Uganda INC.
I expanded actionable intelligence pipeline.
It wasn't very small before, it was like a smaller pipeline and I was like we should expand that pipeline, get a little bigger, and so we made a bigger pipeline.
You know, I reduced future.
I reduced future deployment inefficiencies.
Yeah, what?
So, once again, it's all like, is there a thing like?
Again, i'm very skeptical, but i'm like okay, I always, as I said on the other show, I don't want to be wrong.
So i'm like okay, maybe i'll be wrong, maybe the next page will be and we save 50 kids from a fucking dungeon or something.
You know it could be something awful, like maybe they're doing, but it's always like that's amazing language.
Reduced future deployment inefficiency.
When I was writing my resume, I was tired of writing prepared over and over prepared.
Uh, we prepared, we prepared.
So i'm like well, absolutely like you.
The hiring person asked like, is there anything that's not like preparation based?
And i'm like, glad you asked I also.
Reduced future deployment inefficiencies, yeah yeah honestly, it's like I look at this and I just have more questions.
Yeah, I don't feel like this is giving me confidence in this organization and me wanting to donate to it.
I'm a protectionist and I care too much.
Yeah, are my main weaknesses?
And also I reinforced partner field relationships, which I think was exactly identical to the other one or it's, or maybe it's a little bit different.
Strengthened intelligence and communications network, yeah okay, a little bit different.
Oh well, here you go, because the key highlight, Identified operational efficiency refinements.
And then the outcome is reduced future deployment and efficiencies.
So, you know, they go hand in hand.
You get a bullet point on each side now.
Oh, boy.
But it does say joint rescue operations were conducted.
The mission strengthened operational trust and revealed improvements to streamline future deployments.
So, like, I would think if they had like, and we rescued a kid, they'd have like a picture or something.
That's the thing.
It's like, you don't even have to go that direction.
Like, you can give us numbers without compromising anybody's safety.
You can give us some sort of details.
You know, like a particular mission was tackled and resulted in bringing X number of children or a significant number of kids.
You could like even keep that vague.
I don't know.
Like, there's a way to find in the middle.
There's a lot you could do.
I'm not asking for like names, date of births, or anything like that.
Let's see.
Well, we can keep going through it.
Joint Rescue Operations Details00:06:58
Yeah.
This one's a little more specific.
Is it?
Well, okay.
Under key highlights, 65 frontline personnel trained.
We have a number.
We have a number.
Well, okay.
So they're doing trainings.
And like, to be clear, I doubt you could call this, and I'm not like accusing anyone of like fraud per se.
I don't, I doubt you could say this is fraud because they are providing trainings.
It's not like they're a fictional organization.
I'm not saying that or anything.
Right.
And it specifically says underneath this section too, that this fulfilled formal MOU requirements specific to the training, the 65 responders.
So these are related to deliverables that whatever groups they're working with are expecting from them.
So as far as they say, isn't that just a fancy way of saying, well, we contacted some people and said we could train you.
And they're like, all right.
And then they paid us to train them on this.
Yeah.
I guess, I guess you would hope that the MOU would have additional stuff and not just this training.
But yeah.
So unified rescue plus evidence handling procedures introduced.
Oh, that sounds like that's part of training.
Probably.
High-level Ugandan leadership participation.
All right.
Standardized multi-agency child rescue framework in place.
Okay.
I keep thinking that's going to be a past tense verb because like key outcomes.
Well, I standardized multi-agency child rescue framework in place.
Oh, wait.
It's just saying like there is now a standardized multi-agency.
Yeah, they go back and forth is the thing.
Yeah.
Increased local leadership capability.
Yeah.
Now I don't know.
Does that mean there's an increased local leadership capability?
We won't go through all of this, but train, train, train.
This is pretty much.
And they've already talked about the 65 responders that they've trained.
Like you've already claimed it.
Yeah.
And they're like, if we move more toward the border of another country, we can call it Uganda something else.
GPS vehicle tracker installed?
Oh.
Huh.
Oh, track.
So does that mean like, all right, give us your cars?
Here's the brain of it.
And you can put these GPS trackers on suspect vehicles, maybe?
Yeah.
Let's see.
Sentinel conducted intelligence gathering surveillance on a suspected trafficking network.
Okay.
Placing a GPS track.
Oh, I'm wrong.
So yeah, okay.
So it sounds like they actually maybe did something.
Placing a GPS tracker on a vehicle and monitoring movement between multiple districts.
The goal was to map the network thoroughly before interdiction to ensure permanent disruption rather than isolated arrests.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Doing reconnaissance.
All right.
Oh, well, here we go.
Down at the bottom here, though, surveillance initiated on a trafficking ring linked to the kidnapping of 10 children.
Okay.
But I don't know if they saved them.
Yeah.
I mean, who knows?
GPS tracking and network mapping were executed.
And that's the thing is like, because they're working with the law enforcement agencies, I mean, I still think if there was a news article that was like, local police rescue 10 children from thing, I'm positive that they could publish that or link to it or whatever.
Like they could show a picture of like if it, if it hasn't happened, they're like, oh, we don't, you know, we don't want to reveal information because the suspects will know that they're being taught.
Sure, okay.
But like if anything's ever happened, you would think they'd be able to point to the press release that, because the police do that.
They put out the release or the local press will cover when something happens like that.
So I'm sure they could point to it if it was there.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is curious because I, I mean, we haven't seen anything.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
On the next page, there might be something here.
Impact delivered.
Operation Little Ones Retribution ongoing.
Okay.
And then just bold because it catches my eye.
Child rapist is successfully arrested.
So targeting serial predators responsible for major sexual exploitation offenses against minors in central and southern Uganda.
Sentinel supported the arrest of a high-risk offender while gathering evidence on additional perpetrators connected to broader exploitation networks.
All right.
That says they located and arrested?
Oh.
So are they allowed to operate as a paramilitary or a para-police?
Is there a word for that?
They're like a, you know what I mean?
Like they have to be like in coordination with the local law enforcement, like that they support the arrest or something.
Like I don't think arrest executed in cooperation with special police.
Yeah.
Victim slash witness case documentation supported.
High harm predator permanently neutralized.
Additional prosecutions in progress.
Network dismantling ongoing.
Okay.
It sounds like something's happening there.
Yeah.
All right.
So they've got millions of dollars to go sit in and maybe give some pointers while local police do a thing.
Like it's like that might all be true.
And I'm sure it is.
But like, do you need this organization to do that?
Like, is it, is it the best use of millions of dollars?
And could you really say who knows how many kids countless kids at these million dollars are going to save?
Because so far we've got like one in this entire quarter.
And there's a bunch of trainings.
And again, yeah, it's not like there's not these horrible criminals, but it's just, it's just weird.
There's something about this that I'm like, this is, it feels like something that would really appeal to these people.
Remember that movie a year or two ago that was like the border thing that was like sound of freedom.
Sound of freedom.
Yeah.
Like that kind of thing.
You know, and I'm just like, what's this?
I don't know.
There's just a little, there's a lot of words that don't say much.
Well, yeah, but then people get to cosplay as these white savior military folk.
And then impact delivered, oak and smoke.
Look at that one.
Why don't you tell me what that looks like?
Because to me, there's a nice picture of some men in suits with like drinks.
So it sounds like designed for trust building and mission alignment with established advocates and emerging donors.
Oh, so it's their party.
Yeah.
So they have a nice party and spend a bunch of money.
Donor relationship building event.
Ohio Range Day.
So they did social media and maybe shot at a gun range.
All right.
There is a thing that, so I don't know if it was in this quarter, but the biggest thing that I saw that they did, and this is, you know, this is good.
I think it's, again, I don't know that it's going to be the most efficient use of money, but they helped with some disaster rescue, which is, it's nothing to do with sex abuse or human trafficking.
So I just want to note that.
But like, it is cool that they did that.
Yeah, that's important work.
So crisis response.
And it's funny, they have a whole tab on their website for it.
Click on that.
And then there's only one thing and it's Western North Carolina.
Oh, yeah.
I saw that.
I was confused by that.
They were on site less than a week after the storm impacted North Carolina in late September 2024, organizing efforts and taking action along other NGOs.
We have coordinated and provided rescues, road and tree clearing, supply drops, delivery and distribution, bridge building, and more.
President Glenn Devitt Mystery00:03:32
We will continue to support those impacted by Hurricane Helene.
All right.
So that's, I mean, that's cool.
I think there was another, there's a place where they also say they tried to help, and it might be because this is a little older.
I think I saw it in an older tax document that they helped rescue people from Afghanistan when we left Afghanistan.
That's interesting.
Like, I wonder, you know, talk about FOIA, like, maybe we could finish something with FOIA there.
Cause I mean, again, I don't doubt that, like, it seems like they, they are military guys and they're connected to the military.
And maybe they, you know, it just seems like weird.
Like, what would they have done?
How would that, you know, it's just, it's a bizarre thing.
So then I wanted to check out more because at this point, I do see that they're doing some stuff, but it's like, it feels weird.
And so I wanted to track down more.
And so I found a long interview with someone named Matt Murphy, and it says president of Sentinel Foundation.
And this is from July 25th, 2023.
Now, what's weird about that?
What's weird about that is when I go to the tax documents and I look at 2022, just in case, and I look at key employees, no Matt person there.
The president is listed as Glenn Devitt.
That's weird.
Okay, 2023.
Well, now the president is listed as Andrew Gunther.
Yeah, and that's who was in the Sentinel report thingy that we were seeing.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, 2024, maybe?
2024, there isn't a president listed.
And none of the people, there's about 10 names in each of these years.
None of them are Matt Murphy, which is like, I think I know what's going on, maybe, but I'll get to that later.
But it's just weird.
I was like, okay, he's not even listed in any of this stuff, but he is the president.
And it's all like, he is affiliated with them, obviously.
Like he's in their stuff.
But it just, that was just another weird thing.
I'm like, how is he the president?
But he's not even listed on the tax documents.
Doesn't seem right.
So that's a, that's a mystery.
But I watched this long interview.
The description says president of Sentinel Foundation.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah.
And so I think we'll take an episode break because this video's got some stuff, man.
This is, oh, boy.
This is a, I had to, I was like, sorry, need to pause day two of Amfest to watch two hours of this guy.
And it's so interesting.
So next time on Where There's Woke, is this real?
Like, what?
What's going on with this Sentinel Foundation?
How bullshit is this?
We'll listen to this interview a bit.
Got a lot of clips and we'll be the judge of that.
So thanks for listening so much, everybody.
And thanks for supporting.
And next time, we're going to delve more into the Sentinel Foundation and other organizations.