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Sept. 1, 2025 - Where There's Woke - Thomas Smith
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WTW88: We Took the PragerU-Designed Ideology Test That Incoming Oklahoma Teachers Have to Pass. It's Nuts...

Part 1 of 2. The Department of Education in the state of Oklahoma recently announced that in their search for teachers to address an ongoing shortage in their schools, they'd be partnering with a conservative "edutainment" entity to develop a test to make sure teachers coming from blue states aren't too "woke." Lydia tells us more about this story and we take the JUST RELEASED test to see if we can pass it. In part 2, we'll dig into who PragerU is, the kind of content they produce, and what we can do to fight back.   **If you enjoy our work, please consider leaving a 5-star review! You can always email questions, comments, and leads to lydia@seriouspod.com.** Please pretty please consider becoming a patron at patreon.com/wherethereswoke!  

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What's so scary about the woke mob, how often you just don't see them coming?
Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism and you see woke principles being pushed.
Wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down.
The woke monster is here and it's coming for everything, everything, everything, everything, everything.
Instead of go-go boots, the seductious green M ⁇ M will now wear sneakers.
Hello, welcome to Where There's Woke.
I'm Thomas.
That over there is Lydia.
How are you doing?
Oh, I am honestly pretty freaking excited for this episode.
I was like kind of dreading it because we're going to be exposing ourselves to some really terrible people.
But I think this is like such a good opportunity to fight back in this particular corner of the education system in our country, which, you know, we've talked a lot about, gosh, at like the college level, we've talked about, you know, New College of Florida and how things are being taken over there by right-wing extremists.
We've talked about the flack about woke kindergarten and debunking those claims as well.
But today, we are going to focus in on something we've been meaning to talk about for a long, long time, and we have some salient reasons why we will be talking about them today.
Prager you.
Prager me?
No, I would never, I would never prager you.
Jeez.
Ouch.
Rejected publicly.
Wow.
Okay.
No one should prager anybody.
Yeah, I wanted to call the episode Prager.
What did I say?
Prager, prager me, Prager you.
No, I don't remember.
Was it just Prager you pardoned or something?
No, I don't think you sent me that one.
That one's good though.
Not really.
Well, I don't know.
I like it.
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Well, you got so excited to tell everybody.
I'm fine.
No one asked.
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Whenever it's your prep, you're just like business.
I know.
I just like zoom right in.
What do you have to do?
Yeah, I have 11 pages.
We have shit to do.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
You gotta hurry.
All right, everybody.
Okay.
Oh my god.
Okay, I can't.
I was going to try to think of some more names, but save it for the outtake.
Not any time.
Yeah, we got to get going.
I'm excited.
Yeah, PragerU is.
You're going to tell us, I'm sure, but this has been going on a long time.
It's kind of old by now, but it seems to be like gaining.
Yes.
Gaining and gaining, which is not good.
It's not.
Can't wait to hear about it.
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Yeah.
Okay.
Well.
All right.
Progress.
So there's a couple reasons that I sort of alluded to.
to in the intro about why this is such a good time to talk about prager you the first reason i'm going to talk about that we're going to lead off with is about a month ago it was i prager you didn't that's what it was i remember now i got it okay i'm done did we did did we finish stop in the middle we did it folks bye about a month ago oklahoma announced that they would be working with Prager U to develop an ideology test.
A what?
An ideology test to screen and withhold teaching certificates from teachers from quote woke states like California and New York.
Really?
Yeah.
Because I'd heard about the like the partnerships for like curriculum or something.
Yeah, they already have.
They already had a partnership for curriculum.
So now this, and we'll talk about that later as well, but this is.
brand new.
They are in a huge teacher shortage in Oklahoma.
And so as they're trying to recruit the superintendent, Ryan Walters, who is my archnemesis.
Really?
I don't know.
Oh my gosh.
I hate him so much.
And Ryan, if you're listening Now you know I hate you.
Can you have an arch nemesis who doesn't know you exist?
Is that?
I don't know.
He's my nemesis.
Is that the difference between nemesis and arch?
Oh, is the arch?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I don't like him.
I don't know if we ever talked about this on the show.
I can't remember.
I was trying to look back through the catalog, but I I know I've talked about it in life.
I just don't know if we ever recorded it.
Last year, Oklahoma had established a library services advisory board to screen unsuitable books.
And he appointed Haya Reichik of Libs of TikTok to it.
Yeah, I feel like you did tell us that.
Yeah.
He also has, I guess, helped sponsor policy to.
to get a Bible in every classroom.
He said every classroom should have a Bible and the constitution.
And yeah, and there was like a big to do about that.
Why does math class need the constitution?
Does Jim need the const?
Does PE need the constitution?
Yeah.
I, uh, you know, had tracked that even Republicans in the Oklahoma State Legislature were wondering about why it was going to be so expensive.
And there was some theorizing that he was actually going to be buying the Trump Bibles because when you looked at like the number of Bibles he would be buying, yeah, the, the dollar amount was very, very, very, very close.
i thought that was legitimate wasn't it my memory was legitimate and then they weren't going to and they pretended they were never going to but i don't know i don't i don't know if we yeah i i cannot tell you i mean he still says that he is you know the only state that is uh putting forward that every classroom needs to have a bible he's very right-wing very religious very conservative so Obviously, this is their next step, right?
That teachers are too woke in blue states.
And rather than have, you know, addressing the teacher shortage when you're 49th in the nation for education and getting.
Well, that's your answer.
I can't tell.
I don't know how many states there are.
So that could be, is it 49?
Are there like 400,000 states?
No.
49th of 50.
I went to Oklahoma for school.
So I don't know.
How many states are there?
Yeah.
So they announced about a month ago.
Well, the test has officially been released.
Jeez.
And he got on with Prager U CEO Marissa Street to announce that it was officially live.
I have a hard time believing this.
Like, really?
They're really doing an ideology.
Yes.
Like, I know everything they accused the left of for a while was not real.
And also, they don't care and they're hypocrites.
But this is like directly, like the ideology test is directly the thing they said was the bad thing that the left would do that we can't do you know like yeah it's so on the nose that i'm like really well they won't call it an ideology test right they of course frame it as like this is just you know basic history and biology the two things that tend to be the ideological but it's like history question What year did Columbus totally awesomely discover America and do everything?
Oh, Pin and Columbus.
We'll be talking about him too.
I'd love to put a pin and Columbus.
So why don't we jump over to that clip?
I have a couple clips from this video where they really push back about the bad press that they've been getting as they've been announcing this effort.
But first, we'll hear from Ryan Walters about what's going on here.
Look, hey, we're we're thrilled.
You know, we have been focusing on getting education back to the basics, getting it away from all the woke indoctrination, all the nonsense.
And we've been recruiting teachers from all across the country to come to Oklahoma.
We've been giving massive signing bonuses, the biggest in the country for top performers.
We do merit pay.
$43.
Top teachers bonus in the country.
Yeah.
Here, yeah, we believe in free markets here in Oklahoma.
But, you know, as we started to see Gavin Newsom do a radical, radical shift in what they're doing in California's education system, we've said, listen, we have to make sure that the teachers in our classroom, as we're recruiting these individuals, aren't a bunch of whoa, Marxist activists.
And PragerU stepped right in.
has worked with this with an incredibly high quality product here to say, listen, we're going to get away from all these credentials that are run by left-wing organizations that have been pushed by every teachers union group known to man.
And we're going to develop our own with PragerU to say, listen, we're going to make sure that the teachers are teaching whaters union known to man this is a very anti-union video a very anti-union what prager you is very anti-union.
Sure.
Of course.
Yeah.
But it's just so funny to be like, you mean the people who are in the job that you're hiring for universally recommend certain curricula?
And you're like, well, not that then.
Yeah.
And that's what's so important when you talk about getting our schools back on track.
This fucking guy.
So Ryan Walter is really focusing in on why they needed to do this partnership, the quality of Prager U's material, et cetera, et cetera.
And then in this second clip, we are going to get more about the bad press that they've been receiving.
and there are responses to that.
Okay.
Well, when people ask me about our content, people will say, well, critics say, critics say that your content is unfair, unreasonable, manipulates historical facts, et cetera.
And here's what I'd like to encourage our audience.
Ask her to pronounce Doseckis just to stop.
Deep cut.
Deep cut.
audiences to do.
Find out who are these critics.
Who are the people who are critical of Prager U?
Who are the people who are critical of superintendents of education that are willing to put.
Listen to this rhetoric.
Who are those people?
Usually those people who are critical of us are the same people who really don't care about children.
And these are the behemoth teachers' unions, the large ones like the NEA and the AFD, or your political opponents who are simply going to try to smear you with an association with us as if Prager U is some negative force, or simply the people who have been able to hold the schools and our children hostage to their political agenda.
These are the only critics really that Prager U has, and these are the same critics that you, well, I'm a critic.
Do I fall into one of those groups?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not trying to think.
Also, that you just suck, Preg, are you here?
Everybody just say they suck, and then we break that logic.
Yeah.
And other superintendents of education who are really willing to do the right thing have, it's this, we have the same enemy, and these are the enemies of America's children as well.
Isn't that nuts?
These are the enemies of America's children.
Yeah.
I just was shocked when I heard that it's taking you up to 11 pretty quickly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On an announcement about a test that people are saying is ideological, and then you're going to call the other side the enemy like okay yeah that's really disproving that's the ceo of prague or you yeah yeah it's funny because you would think that they'd be like a little more diplomatic and then maybe the politicians would be saying that maybe the republican would be saying that enemy of the kids crap but like she's just wow she's just yeah absolutely at 11 already okay yeah it's pretty amazing though when you can be like well yeah that's just like you know teachers though that hate us i
I know.
Okay.
So anyone who would know fucking anything about it, think about it.
Anyone who's in a position to know better about any of these videos is going to have some connection to teaching or education or liberal woke colleges.
Like who else are you going to find?
Rip Van Winkle is the only person who's actually there.
I don't know.
Like who can you find that's not connected to education that could be a critic of this because they need expertise to be a proper critic.
so it's pretty convenient to be like, but they don't know what they're talking about.
Yeah.
Well, that's exactly right.
And listen, the NEA, you know, they're very open on what they're doing when it comes to the ideology they push.
I mean, you see this anti-Americanism, you see this anti-Semitism that is just absolutely nasty.
What does that have to do with anything?
And so you start digging into these critics and you go, listen, they have this.
warped left wing ideology, but they also it's about power and control for them.
I mean, that they have gotten very, very rich off of forcing their way into schools, forcing schools to contract with them, forcing schools to give them a, I mean, we talked about this in Oklahoma, one of the first things we did as unions, we're not going to let you force teachers to pay into your union.
No, absolutely not.
How is that a democratic value?
How is that an American value?
It's absolutely not.
But that's what they've done is they go into states, they buy off elected officials, they force teachers into the union.
Frankly, they lie a lot of times to teachers about what they're doing.
I mean, one of the first things we did was how about we show you what they say at their conference right you can see it's just not it's just mortifying it's so ridiculous how he paints this and and also the idea that like that unions are anti-American is just hilarious.
You know, we're coming up on Labor Day right now.
So like it's pretty hilarious to say that unions are anti-American at this point.
So I said the test is available.
It's kind of available.
So I wanted to get it because I was like, ooh, let's take it.
Take it.
But okay.
So I started opening it up.
You have to give some information.
to open it up and i was like okay i can do that it was like name phone number email so i used like my throwaway email account i used an old phone number that isn't mine anymore and I use like initials and then I used woke left at teachingsunion.org and then the next page is asking for your address and I was like this is getting really invasive yeah so I clicked out of it.
I have sample questions.
We can do that if you want to.
If you want to come up with some fake address, we can put in there, but I'm not putting my real address.
Just put the SIO address in there.
I didn't even want to put that.
I don't know.
Whatever.
All right.
Okay.
Hang on.
Let me pull it up then.
Coward.
Let me tell you also that the test is available on the Oklahoma Department of Education website, available in quotes.
It basically just redirects you to the PragerU URL for it.
But on the Oklahoma State Department website and the PragerU website, it lists like take the test and then this launch video.
And then if you keep scrolling, it lists a bunch of videos in civics, U.S. history, their videos, right?
U.S. holidays and symbols, biological sex and gender.
It says, once you've reviewed the videos, you're ready to take the teacher qualification test inspired by the official Oklahoma teacher test.
If you pass the test, you will receive a certificate.
But like you need to watch the PragerU videos.
Yeah.
Like how offensive.
You're going to watch a couple YouTube videos to be a teacher?
How insanely offensive is that if you are a teacher that they're going to be like, I mean, I'll read you these questions and then maybe you'll be able to even understand like more of why I'm so incensed.
Wow.
Which best describes you?
Choose as many as you like.
Oh, we're in?
We're in.
We're in.
Oh, wow.
I'm going to become a teacher.
How much is this bonus?
I might be moving to Oklahoma.
Parent, grandparent, teacher, educator, student, or other...
other uh i'm certainly another i would say okay yeah i'm gonna unclick parent because i don't want them to know that's true say grandparent okay question one of 34.
Jeez.
According to the Supreme Court cases Meyer v Nebraska, 1923, and Pierce v Society of Sisters, 1925, who has the ultimate right to direct a child's education?
They're going to be the parents.
Yeah, it's a multiple choice, right?
So the superintendent of schools, the parents, the Board of Education, or the Federal Department of Education.
Yeah, the parents.
And it says that is correct.
We get immediate feedback.
That's cool.
It's going to be a pretty easy test.
Okay.
What is the fundamental biological distinction between males and females?
PP, PB vagina.
These fucking children.
Height and weight.
height and weight blood type personal preference chromosomes and reproductive anatomy and reproductive anatomy well yes so sorry sorry chromosomes and reproductive anatomy is oh okay wow well i pick d because that's what they would say that is correct this is so easy oh i wonder should i get one of these wrong to see what what they say Oh, if it like the computer like shoots a laser beam.
Yeah.
Okay.
This next one, I can guess it wrong.
Maybe.
Oh, man.
That's so hard.
How is it?
I know.
Oh, you're telling me I need 100% on this stupid test.
Yeah.
How is a child's biological sex typically defined parental affirmation of child's preference boy for being not the enemies of children you sure have a lot of questions about children's parts yeah they also are like these are about biology and it's like what are you kick about biology these are biology questions according to ryan walters biology that you learn in school is like frogs and stuff right photosynthesis photos yeah yeah mitochondria powerhouse of the cell there better be a question about what the powerhouse of the cell is Otherwise,
you're hiring teachers who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
Okay.
So yeah, parental affirmation, personal feelings, visual anatomical observation, and chromosome.omes.
I lost track of what this question was.
Online registration.
is a child's biological sex typically identified?
I don't know.
Like, just they referred to us.
No, like, what are they going to say?
Because they're going to say visual anatomical observation and chromosomes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, sure.
But I want to answer it wrong to them because I want to see what they say.
This hurts.
Is this going to go on our permanent record?
All right.
I'm going to click.
Because I don't know we're going to talk about it.
Honestly, it is really hard for me to click what I know that they don't want me to answer.
Oh, you fucking.
Well, hold on.
It depends on which wrong answer.
Oh, okay.
No, I did it.
So it was personal feelings.
And they said, sorry, that is not right.
Try again.
So everyone's going to pass.
The tone was kind of scary when you say that sorry.
Try again.
Sorry, well, but also they're like, you're gonna have to pass this ideological test, but then they're like, try again.
Try again.
Yeah, so everyone.
Well, I think they know how to test.
What is happening?
Oh my God, what a mess.
All right, that is correct.
It's the visually anatomical.
Which chromosome pair determines biological sex in humans?
Jesus Christ, how how how many subjects do they think there are in school?
Like, it's just, it's all about fucking gender identity.
That's why, God, they're so hung up on it.
This is hilarious.
AABB is that's one of the chromosome pair options we could select.
XXXY, RHAB, and XEXQ.
All right.
Fucking, this is so stupid.
Yeah.
I can't dignify this with a response.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Wait for this one.
Why is the distinction between male and female considered?
Yep.
Yep.
Considered important in areas like sports and privacy.
For fuck's sake.
How, okay.
How many questions are there?
And what question are we on?
34.
We're on five.
Okay.
Are we going to get any like math questions?
Like, oh, there will be zero math.
It could be zero.
Just ideology.
Yeah, it's just.
Oh, I mixed it up because you were talking about the videos and being qualified to be a teacher.
I was kind of, oh, no, just the ideology.
The ideology test is just history and quotes.
Okay, so we'll probably get some like free market capitalism and unions are evil stuff too.
But really front-loading on the gender stuff.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, so why is it considered important?
Because the inherent differences between men and women.
Here are your options.
For equity and minority communities.
So it's just buzzwords that mean nothing.
Minority.
Yeah, in response to the question.
They're real proud of that.
We're going to get some of those woke leftists because they're going to think that's a good thing.
They're going to see equity and minority.
To preserve fairness, safety, and integrity for both sexes.
To increase participation in sports.
Or to enhance the self-esteem of transgender children.
Okay.
Man, as a woke leftist, I don't know if I want to pick A or D. You know, like those are both irresistible buzzwords to me.
Oh God, I know.
They're both pulling me in.
They're both like Roger Rabbit was like, shave and a diversity.
Yeah, exactly.
Transgender!
You know, it's like...
All right, question six.
Should teachers be allowed to express their own political viewpoints in the world?
in the classroom in order to persuade the students to adopt their point of view man Interesting.
That's tricky because I wonder what they're going for.
If they're like, yes, you should be able to convert them to being, but I doubt it.
I bet it's a no because they're just of the position that all the teachers are woke leftists.
Yeah, I think so.
Yes, teachers.
have freedom of speech too, which does not stop at the classroom door.
No, once you become a teacher, your freedom of speech in and out of the classroom is restricted.
Out of the classroom.
Yeah, I mean, kind of in certain ways.
I mean, like on campus.
Yeah, but not at the grocery store.
Yes, sometimes when the issue involves civil rights or social justice.
These fucking people.
No, the classroom is not an appropriate venue for political activism.
I think they're going to say no.
What did the Supreme Court rule in the 2025 case Mahmoud v.
Taylor?
Gender affirming medical procedures are allowed in America.
Students must recite the pledge of allegiance in schools, religious schools must hire non-religious staff, or public schools cannot require participation in LGBTQ themed instruction without parental opt-out.
I love this too, because even their own stupid thing like doesn't work, because like.
What determines your ideology and if you're ideologically compatible with them?
Is it that you remember the name of the case?
Yeah.
Or wouldn't it just be like, which of these do you agree with or whatever?
You know what I mean?
Like, what does it matter if you remember the name of it?
Yeah.
Also, it's the last one.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Yeah.
No, it's last one.
I already forgot what the order was.
All right, hun.
What are the first three words of the constitution?
In God we trust, we the people, life, liberty, happiness, or the United States.
I like life, liberty, happiness.
Like it's like live, laugh, love.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a weird way to start a constitution.
Life, liberty, happiness are things we care about.
Hi, we're the constitution.
Hi, we're the constitution.
Hi, we're the founding fathers.
Yeah.
Like and subscribe.
Why is freedom of religion important to America's identity?
I like how they're only using the partial part of that freedom, freedom of and from religion, but freedom of religion.
All right.
It protects religious choice from government control.
It makes Christianity the national religion.
It bans all, they wish.
It bans all forms of public worship.
I guess I shouldn't say they wish because a lot of them are actually Jewish and just very, very conservative and aligned with the altar.
Prager's Jewish.
Yeah.
The actual God.
Yeah.
He's dead yet?
No, he's still alive.
He's still alive.
They do chats sometimes on their YouTube, like giving updates on his health and sending him well wishes.
Yeah.
Anyway, it bans all forms of public worship.
It limits religious teaching in the public square.
Bans all forms of public worship.
Yeah.
Freedom of religion.
This is tricky because I feel like some of these are like their worldview.
Yeah.
You know, like they do think it banned all forms of public.
Like they do think they're persecuted.
Oh, totally.
Totally.
This is an interesting one.
I wonder if they're like, well, we got to kind of keep our side on their toes too.
Yeah.
It protects religious choice from government control.
Sure.
What are the two parts of the U.S. Congress?
If you were a teacher, wouldn't you feel like pretty offended by this like very basic question?
I would hope every human being would be offended by the existence of this fucking student.
Yeah.
This is like if a child tried to write a test to get in their class.
Exactly, exactly.
But I've just never heard it as parts.
Is that normal?
What?
Yeah, it would be two houses.
I think you usually say houses or, yeah, I don't know.
I just don't remember hearing parts.
I'm guessing they didn't use houses because it.
they wouldn't have been able to come up with enough options that like that are fake that are fake yeah because it's the house of lords and the house of commons you could have used houses for that right but then it says the judiciary and the senate and people know those aren't houses sure the executive and the legis well i don't know i would hope yeah i think teachers who are having to take this ideological test will know that the judiciary and the senate the executiveecutive and the legislative, and then the Senate and the House of Representatives.
Pretty funny.
Yeah.
All right.
We're on question 11.
Are we a teacher yet?
Almost.
We're a third of the way to being a teacher.
How many total U.S. senators are there?
435, 535, 100, or 50?
Oh, I think they're wrong.
Aren't there?
Because isn't there the like, does DC, DC gets a senator?
I thought they just got rubber.
I thought they got a non-voting senator or something.
Is that not right?
No, maybe you're right, but they don't consider those as people, I guess.
Because it's 100.
Yeah, obviously.
Does DC get a senator?
DC residents elect a non-voting delegate to the House.
Oh, okay.
Wait, no, it says two shadow senators, but I guess that maybe they aren't officially whatever.
Yeah, that's why it's the shadow.
Yeah, yeah.
Are we counting shadow senators?
Geez, apparently not.
Shadow senators are the woke left.
Okay.
Why do some states have more representatives than others?
Here we go.
Let's see.
Representation is allocated by population.
Sort of.
Yeah.
They cover a larger geographic area.
They have held statehood for a longer period.
Jesus Christ.
Or the number is determined by Congress.
Sorry, what is this for?
What is this question for?
To them, what is this doing?
I don't know.
I guess it's like related to the city.
They had all the gender stuff.
They're like, that's it.
We need an ideology test.
And then everyone in the room came up with 1,500 penis and vagina questions.
Ask them what boys are good at.
And the girls, and then they're like, wait, we can't just have it be that.
So they're like, well, can anyone think of any other questions?
And then this is what we got.
That's it.
I mean, I do think it's, you know, their idea that the woke is anti-American and so doesn't know anything about America and the way our country is the first three words of the Constitution.
Like, come on.
How would we?
Because we're so anti-American.
Yeah.
They're so stupid.
Their worldview has been so fucking skewed by their media that they think that like the left, the people who is all the teachers and the people who know things won't know these very simple questions.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
All right.
How many would I actually love this, but how many are we doing of this?
I don't know.
We can keep, why don't we just keep going?
It is fun.
All right.
Question 13.
What is the primary responsibility of the president's cabinet?
Approve Supreme Court justices.
Pass legislation.
sign executive orders or advise the president.
This is not as hard as the test to get in the country to like become a citizen.
Oh, it's not.
I know.
That test is hard.
I don't think I could pass that one.
Yeah.
Crazy.
What is this for, you fucking idiots?
I really think that's it.
They had a bunch of like fucking kids' genitalia questions.
And then they're like, what else do we do?
I don't know.
Throwing some sixth grade.
Yeah, because you know those woke leftists, they're too busy burning the constitution to ever have read it.
We know all this better than you do, assholes.
Who signs bills into law?
The vice president, the chief justice, the president or the speaker of the house.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
This is incredible.
What is the highest court in the United States?
The federal court, the court of appeals, the district court or the supreme court?
I'm going to go with the one that literally means the biggest and highest.
This is incredible.
I can't.
This is the funniest thing.
In the United States, which of the following is a responsibility reserved only for citizens?
Serve on a jury, own a home, pay taxes, possess a driver's license.
Serve on a jury, I guess, right?
Yeah.
Next.
Which of the following are explicitly listed in the Bill of Rights?
Freedom of speech and religion voting and public education reproductive rights and health care freedom from data collection and surveillance oh i spaced out because i can't sorry was was which of the following to be fair this is normally me for tests like oh shit uh got to reread it 18 times which of the following are explicitly listed in the bill of rights oh okay so they want to make the point that reproductive freedom isn't explicitly listed exactly i don't remember the choice freedom of speech and religion Oh, okay.
The other one is voting, voting in public education.
Right.
Okay.
Next, what right does the Second Amendment protect?
What is going to be the wrong answer here?
What is the person you're targeting?
You know who we need to filter out?
People who don't know what the Second Amendment is.
Yeah, like they're not gonna be teachers.
In 2025, like literally we just Are you kidding me?
Like they're going to know.
do you think that there could be a potential teacher that wouldn't know this?
Like that's important enough to try to filter out.
Honestly, anybody in the United States who wouldn't know what this is.
We all know the fucking thing you guys fucking love so much and cling to, even though it's the death of children.
We know the bullshit you worship more than the lives of children.
We know it.
You tell us all the time.
The right to hunt and fish.
My God given right.
Yeah.
What if that was like explicitly like a right?
Somebody was really proud.
I'm real proud because that's what they do with the guns.
So that some of them, I guess that I'm really proud.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I thought they were going to throw God in the middle.
No, no.
Darn.
But I think there is a God element to it too, right?
Because then they're like, they just go back to the founding fathers, the Constitution's Supreme Law, and they're all religious folks and blah, blah, blah.
Who wrote the first draft of the Declaration of Independence?
John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, or Thomas Paine?
Who would...
Thomas Jefferson, right?
Yeah.
What is this for though?
I don't know.
I like these are just the most ridiculous, asinine questions.
Like, and also I just the idea that your teacher certification, it'd be one thing if you have to do like some sort of teacher certification with like specific to Oklahoma standards.
This has nothing to do with Oklahoma standards of education.
Yeah, at all.
Nothing.
Yeah.
This is nothing.
When was the Declaration of Independence adopted?
July 4th, 1778.
July 4th, 1787.
July 4th, 1776.
July 4th, 1619.
This is the best.
This is so fucking funny.
Just the insight into their brains that this is is like exactly i'm embarrassed for them like what do you think like we're so dumb on the like oh 1619 that's because it doesn't even, it would be one thing if you ask the question like, when's the foundational time of our country?
Or, you know, like try to ask it in some way that maybe, maybe could be interpreted as 1619.
Yeah, the Declaration of Independence was on the Mayflower with everybody else.
Nobody thinks the Declaration of Independence is 1619.
No one thinks that.
Nope.
at all.
What was the primary reason the colonists fought the British?
Oh my God.
To resist expansion of the British Empire, to maintain slavery.
Okay, so we get some apologetics there.
To resist taxation without representation, to resist forced military service.
I would say this is the first one that maybe is an actual ideology test because I, it is.
about slavery mainly.
That is actually what it is.
Here's the thing.
We're not fucking idiots.
So if any of us were trying, watch us get 100% on this test easily.
Does that tell you it's a good test that is going to filter anybody out?
We're literally the wokest.
Yeah.
The woke teachers that are taking this test.
And they're going to be like, okay, I have to pass this in order to move to Oklahoma and teach.
I'm going to answer it based on what I'm writing on this.
I will get to move to Oklahoma if I don't pass this.
And also, you saw what happened when I answered a question wrong.
It said, that's not right.
Try again.
Okay.
You're going to get 100%.
What is this?
Are we taking the actual test this is the actual plan on administering this in a way it's online you get a certificate at the end and then you present the fucking certificate now we got to finish it all right who were the first three u.s presidents George Washington Ben Franklin Alexander Hamilton George Washington John Adams Thomas Jefferson George Washington Thomas Jefferson James Madison George Washington John Adams Abraham Lincoln skip like a lot of
years decades and decades we are who is called the father of our country Benjamin Franklin Abraham Lincoln Martin Luther King Jr. or George Washington.
Oh, man.
Well, I have the woke mind virus.
So I think it's Martin Luther King Jr., who's the father of our country, as I was taught by my woke institutions.
God, you idiots.
They're so dumb they can't come up with a good version of their own fascism.
Yeah.
They're not even able to do that.
Like, I expected a little better of them.
What did the Emancipation Proclamation do?
Ended prohibition.
Okay, who's going to get this wrong?
That's what Abe Lincoln really like was focused on.
Who's going to get this wrong and why?
And how does it serve your fucking test?
Freed Confederate generals, freed the slaves in the north, ended slavery in the rebelling Confederate states.
I don't know who's supposed to get that wrong.
Yeah, I know.
What was Abraham Lincoln's primary reason for waging the Civil War?
To preserve states' rights.
This is interesting.
To abolish slavery, to preserve the union, or to end the union.
So this is very interesting because I actually love this because it's like, I got to get into the minds of the innocent.
Because there's a lot of different ways you could go and it's not necessary, it doesn't necessarily break into like woke versus not woke because like you would think the woke answer would be to, I already forget that.
Abolish slavery.
Yeah, you'd think the woke answer could be that.
And there's like the lost cause kind of answer, you know, that could be like, no, it's about all about states' rights, you know, like, so that is kind of a weird way it could have gone.
But then the other weird thing is it's actually, I mean, it's to preserve the union mainly.
Like, that's what it was for.
Yeah.
But I actually don't know where, is it, okay, is it that the wokeists will think it's to end slavery, but it was actually to preserve the union?
Or here's the thing, here's where it's so crazy.
Is that the woke left abandoning our old heroes?
And actually, like we would say the woke left would say it's to preserve the union, but really he was the hero who stopped slavery.
Is that what it is?
I don't think so.
I think the.
first one is right i think that as a woke person we would be focused on race oh yeah i'm focused on that this is great i can't wait you haven't clicked it yet no i've not clicked it yet okay all right so i know i finish your point i just want to make sure yeah i think that they would say we are so obsessed with race and i think you're wrong slavery okay so you think you think that they think that woke people are going to say have come for Abraham Lincoln.
And I think the woke have pointed out, hey.
And I actually, you know, this is a place where I actually disagree with the woke.
I think that there's a talking point that, I mean, it's often expressed with nuance in ways that people don't translate.
But I think the woke leftists want to come for Abraham Lincoln and say he didn't even care about slavery.
slavery, it's all about preserving the union.
And the reality is it's like kind of both.
He does have that quote that if I could preserve the union by abolishing slavery, I do it.
If I could preserve the union by keeping slavery, I do it.
Or something like that.
He has some quote.
I think it's that.
So I actually think this is about the woke taking down a hero.
And I think the woke answer is preserve the union.
The real answer is slavery.
That's what I think.
All right, let's find out.
Okay.
So what do you want me to hit?
Oh, I don't care.
I'm going to hit what I I think, which is to preserve the union.
i'm correct really yeah so to preserve the union is the correct answer is the answer yeah really yeah oh wow okay so in a way that's like worse.
Yeah, and I also like, I think your theorizing there was like really instructive too.
Like I don't know, kind of breaking things down and trying to get into their heads.
That's crazy to preserve the union.
That surprises me.
Because I was pretty sure I was right with what they're thinking.
Like I'm not sure.
But I don't think that they're thinking about woke people today.
They're probably thinking about the archetype, right?
Like the caricature of the world.
They're thinking about woke people today.
I'm saying like they can't keep up with things that are happening.
Like they still kind of focus in on that stuff.
This isn't any newer than 1619 project.
Okay.
So is this them wanting to be.
like, I'm really, no, you're wrong.
You're lying to me.
No, I don't get it.
That's what Prager U says.
Really?
I mean, yeah.
And, you know, Prager U, they say that they're right about everything.
I just don't get why that's their, you know, like, maybe we could help them.
Maybe we could draft an email to Marissa Street and say we'd like comment about this question.
This is very, it's, it's, it's, uh.
Prager, you's horseshoe theory.
You know, it's like the Prager, I tried to make that work.
It didn't work.
But like, this is where the woke and the right could be giving the same answers, really, or different or opposite answers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's blowing my mind.
I'm actually, that's interesting.
Okay.
All right.
We only have a few questions left.
Really?
Seven.
Yeah.
What cause is Martin Luther King Jr. best known for?
Cheating on his wife.
Advocating for segregation.
Advocating for the abolition of slavery.
Advocating for diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Advocating for racial equality under the law.
I feel like it's almost always D. Like, haven't most of them been D?
Oh, that is so funny.
How did the Cold War end?
Oh, okay.
It warmed up.
The U.S. prevailed in the Cuban missile crisis.
One to nothing.
Russia invaded and occupied Ukraine.
The Soviet Union collapsed.
And the U.S. Who's the star?
The US, the European Union, and the Soviet Union signed a peace treaty.
What?
No, it's the Soviet Union.
Yeah, it's just that it collapsed.
Yeah, there's no peace treaty.
That was so funny that I was like, what?
Russia invaded Ukraine.
How would that mean that the Cold War's done?
That's when it warmed up.
It was cold until they entered.
I love this.
This is, ah, hmm.
Makes me happy.
Who was president during the Great Depression and World War II?
Oh, here we go.
Woodrow Wilson.
Okay.
Harry S. Truman.
So they want to shit talk Roosevelt, right?
Yeah.
Franklin D. Roosevelt or Teddy Roosevelt.
Okay.
Well, they want to shit talk FDR.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
That like, yeah, he's behind.
You mean the guy who got us through that stuff?
Out of the Great Depression?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He wasn't president like going into it.
I don't see Herbert Hoover listed there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is the name of the national anthem?
The Star Spangled Banner, America The the beautiful, this land is your land, or God bless America.
Okay, it's got to be the first one, right?
Because that is one I could have gotten wrong.
That's the kind of thing that i don't care about like america the beautiful yeah i would yeah i They could have given me a set of answers that would have made me get that wrong.
Yeah.
I think it would have actually been better if they did like nonsense songs too.
One should have been like, you know, Black people are superior or something.
You know, one should have been like the woke anthem.
No, they should have done the, yeah, the Black American.
No, no, no, there's the Black National Anthem.
Yeah.
They should have put that in there.
Why are there 13 stripes on the American flag?
One for each signer of the Declaration of Independence to honor the 13th Amendment.
Can you imagine?
To commemorate America's fallen soldiers, to symbolize the original colonies.
Oh, is it D again?
Oh, yeah.
Weird.
What percentage?
of them were d it was like i don't know i'd have to take the test again yeah which national holiday honors those who died while serving in the u.s military armistice day memorial day dude veterans don't know this flag day who doesn't know this yeah flag day no all right question 33 we're almost there which of the following is a phrase from the pledge of allegiance life you mean the thing we all had to say every day for
100 years and teachers oh are in a classroom no conservatives would know this teachers that are in classrooms longer than any of the rest of us.
I pledge allegiance to the wokus of the Martin Luther King Jr. diversity, equity, and inclusion of the critical race theory through which it stands.
I think that's it.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
of by and for the people.
We're the pledge of allegiance.
One nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
One nation under God.
Oh.
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Well, what year is it?
That's a great question.
If it was any time, if it was fucking, okay, that's from whenever that was adopted.
Actually, I don't know when, what the origin of it.
It was during the Cold War, wasn't it?
Well, that's, no, I know when they changed, when they put God in was in the, yeah, the 50s.
Yeah.
But I'm wondering when it was even a thing.
Like, when was the pledge of allegiance even, I don't, it doesn't go back to 1776 fucking.
No, no.
The point I was going to make is, I don't know if it's had more time before having God in it than after.
Maybe not, because I feel like it's, it didn't come.
Well, I don't know.
I guarantee you they don't know that the God part is that recent.
I guarantee it.
We could do a test like this that they would actually fucking fail.
Oh, yeah, totally.
And that would be so much harder, too.
Like it'd be stuff that like probably a lot of people might fail.
Because if you did, if you did a test that was the actual real history and then the fake answers were the fake history that a lot of us learn in school, that would really trip up these people.
Yeah, it looks like the version of the pledge, you know, prior to adding the under God was formally adopted by Congress in 1942.
Okay.
Well, but it, yeah, it was probably around.
Yeah, it said that they had circulated the Pledge of Allegiance in leaflets to schools across the country.
And on October 21st, 1892, 10,000 children recited the verse together, but I don't know if.
Well, anyway.
Anyway.
It's good to know that it wasn't around, you know, longer than it's had under God in it, but the original did not have under God in it.
Right.
From whom does, this is our last question, from whom does the United States government derive its power?
The Supreme Court, the people, the president, the military.
Oh, okay.
I want God in there.
I know I want a God in there too.
Okay.
Well, it's the people.
All right.
Congratulations.
You've successfully completed and passed the teacher test.
How would you rate the difficulty of this test?
Easy, moderate, difficult, or very difficult?
You don't need the rest of the answers.
Are you kidding?
It should be fucking stupidly easy.
You don't have to have a pulse easy.
Yeah.
You guys are stupid and you don't know what you're doing.
Yeah.
Or embarrassing.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Click submit to have your certificate sent to your email inbox.
All right.
Submit.
Let's get this.
And oh, and then.
Oh, man.
I'm going to, I'll edit it.
Yeah.
And then it takes you to their donation page.
Oh, do you have to donate to...
No, so it submit and you get it, but then it just says, thank you for taking the teacher qualification test.
We're on a mission to fix our education crisis and teach economics, life skills, history, civics, entrepreneurship, and pro-American values to millions of Americans.
And we're only accepting people who know insanely basic things about.
the fucking dumb shit of our government.
Yeah.
But, but, okay, my question for you about all this, and we haven't, this was a sidetrack that I love that was Yeah, you're saying this is happening this is a real thing though, right?
Yes.
And this is the form in which you have to take it.
So you get sent to their donation page.
Like to become a teacher in Oklahoma, you've got to if you are coming from a woke state.
Prager, oh, from out of state.
Yeah, from out of state.
Oh, I missed that part.
Yeah, they're trying to recruit teachers from across the country, but they're concerned about teachers coming from woke states and bringing their woke indoctrination to their state.
And so they want to make sure that you're not woke.
And so you have to pass this ideological test before you would be issued an Oklahoma teacher certification.
Huh.
Oh, because you need a specific Oklahoma teacher.
Yeah.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
I see.
But I guess it's just weird that it's like, I still think you would have to give it to people who are getting their teaching certificate.
even if they are born in Oklahoma, don't you think?
I don't know how you could police like where people.
Perhaps I guess the question would be like the certification entities and stuff and what they look like in Oklahoma and if it reflects their biological ideas.
No, I just mean in terms of administering something like this, it's just part of the getting the teacher's credential in Oklahoma, even if you're born there, are they making it specifically if you come from out of state?
That just seems hard to do.
Yeah, I mean, that's my understanding, but perhaps not.
Perhaps it's going to be even more, more widely spread, but the way that they're marketing it is that it's specifically to make sure that woke ideas are not going to infiltrate their schools.
Yeah, so I think it would just, you would just make it a part of the teaching credential, wouldn't you?
Anyway, it just seems weird to me.
Yeah, okay.
It's all weird.
The fact that it exists is weird.
Does it become an equal protection issue?
I guess they could say.
Oh, I know.
I have been wondering about the legality of this.
That's why I think they're just saying it's about out of state, but I think they would have to just make it part of the teaching credential for anybody, I think.
But anyway.
So that is obviously a big driver here about why we're talking about PragerU today.
But also, additionally, they just partnered with the White House to put together the Founders Museum in celebration of the 250th anniversary of our country.
And they did this pretty much the exact same time that the corporation proposed.
public broadcasting was defunded so even outlets like vox were posting prager you's going to be the new pbs all right i'm going to stop us there.
We have so much more to talk about with PragerU.
I only got to talk about my first reason for like why this is important, but I don't know.
I think doing the test was definitely a worthwhile time.
Oh, we need to stop too, because I need to admire my certificate.
We need to go hang it on the wall, but we have a whole other reason why it's important to be talking about PragerU.
And then we also have to talk about PragerU.
So that's going to be our PragerU.
So that's going to be our second episode, and you better believe we're going to have some of their content that we're going to be going through as part of that next episode as well.
So you're not going to want to miss it.
Finally, I'll learn some history.
Yeah.
Some history.
Well, thanks so much for listening, everyone.
Thanks, Lydia, for the great breakdown and for the fun test.
And next time on Where There's Woke, Prager, Prager, Prager, still don't have anything.
No.
Prager, you too.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, Prager, you too.
Prager, you?
Prager, you too.
Or is it like Prager, you prager, you too.
I don't know.
That's how we sign off when our text comes.
Oh, yeah.
Prager you.
Prager you.
Prager you too.
Prager you.
Yeah, I'd love to put a fucking pin in Columbus.
Fuck that guy.
Peepee, peepee vagina.
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