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Brian Made Her PUKE?! Reformed HØE?! Woke Girl Came To DESTROY Brian In A DEBATE?! | Dating Talk 277

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	As someone who only dates women with large labia, this is a really important issue for me.
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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, my name is Courtney King.
	I'm 25 years old.
	I'm a full-time UGC creator.
	What were the other where you from?
	I'm from Florida, but I'm currently moving to LA.
	All right.
	And any college?
	Yes.
	I'm in nursing school through Valencia College.
	Anything before that?
	Like college before that?
	No.
	Okay, so you just started nursing school.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	How long have you been doing that?
	Like a year and a half now?
	Do you have to do like your general?
	That's what I'm like.
	I'm not in the actual nursing school yet.
	I just finished my prerequisites.
	You're going to go to nursing school.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, you just finished your pre-rex.
	Yeah.
	What were your pre-recs?
	Anatomy and Physiology 1, Anatomy and Physiology.
	Anyway, what about you?
	What's up, what's up?
	My name is Lota Carl Nims.
	I'm a music artist.
	Originally, I'm 18.
	Okay.
	I'm originally from Russia, St. Petersburg, and I currently live in Los Angeles, California.
	All right.
	When did you move to the United States?
	Two years ago.
	Okay.
	And what's the story there?
	Just moved from Russia.
	Honestly, I was just pursuing a music career.
	Okay.
	So that's my main point.
	But I used to live in Tucson, Arizona, but living in LA was always my dream.
	So I just finally made it here.
	Now, did you move with your family or what's the story?
	No, solo, just alone.
	You moved at 16?
	I moved to Arizona with my family when I was 16, and then I moved to LA alone when I was 17.
	But the move to the United States, you did come with your family.
	Yeah.
	So your mom, your dad, siblings?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	My mom and my dad and my brother.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	Um, and, uh, is that a, I thought we were not on good terms with Russia.
	I didn't know an entire Russian family could move to the United States.
	So what is the do you guys have?
	Did you come here legally?
	Do you have visas?
	What's the.
	Yeah.
	So, okay.
	I'm honestly only partially Russian because I was born in Russia.
	Okay.
	I lived my whole life there till I was 16.
	But my dad is from Kentucky.
	It's kind of weird.
	Your dad's American.
	Yeah.
	And your mom's Russian.
	Yeah.
	Does your dad have dual citizenship in Russia?
	No, I I do.
	Okay.
	You were born in Russia?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Your dad born in the United States.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you have dual citizenship in the United States.
	Yep.
	You're, okay.
	So was there like a immigration process or what?
	I just, well, I'm.
	Not for you.
	I mean, I guess your entire family.
	Kinda.
	I mean, was there an immigration process?
	I don't know if you had to apply for visas.
	Yeah, well, no.
	I had two passports since a kid, so I didn't really have to worry about anything.
	Right, but your mother not being a citizen of the United States.
	Oh, that was, that was hard, but we got over it.
	First, like, yeah, that was a little more difficult.
	Okay, got it.
	All right.
	So you speak Russian, English, any other languages?
	Just those two.
	I'm trying to get to Spanish, but I'm not there.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And are you in college right now?
	I don't go to school, no.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	I'm Jamie Erickson.
	I am 21 years old.
	I do OnlyFans.
	I live in Florida.
	I was born in Connecticut, though.
	And I don't go to college.
	Any college?
	Not at all.
	Just I was homeschooled.
	For most of your life, all of your life?
	I was in public school for all of school until high school.
	And then I was homeschooled for high school.
	That was about it.
	Okay, gotcha.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Elisa Truskanoff.
	I am 28, and I grew up in Jersey.
	I am a script supervisor in film and New Jersey.
	Yeah, not the country.
	Wait, is Jersey a.
	Is Jersey a country?
	Isn't there a country named Jersey?
	Hold on.
	I think so.
	Wait, I'm not from Lord.
	New Jersey country.
	I'm not from the country.
	I'm from this.
	Well, I grew up in the state of New Jersey.
	We just don't say the new part.
	It's not a country.
	It's like a territory of the England?
	The British Crown?
	I don't fucking know.
	Anyways.
	It's an island controlled by the UK.
	Thank you, Chad.
	I got confused there.
	So you're from New Jersey?
	Yeah, I grew up there.
	And I went to NYU Tisch for film and TV a few years ago.
	Okay.
	And let's see.
	What did you get your degree in?
	In film and TV.
	Bachelor's?
	Bachelor's, yeah.
	Okay.
	But that, and you graduated quite a few years ago.
	Yeah, 2019.
	Okay, gotcha.
	What about you?
	I'm Tabitha Chang.
	I'm 28.
	I'm currently a stay-at-home mom of two.
	I do have about three years of college at CSU Monterey Bay with kinesiology being my degree on that.
	And then I got a business certificate last year.
	But otherwise.
	And where are you from?
	We live in Fresno now.
	I'm originally from the Bay Area.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Katie.
	I'm 26, about to be 27.
	My birthday's in a few days.
	I am a full-time model, actress, and content creator.
	I do UGC work.
	And I went to some college, originally from Texas, just moved to LA about a month ago.
	All right.
	Some people in the chat for both of you are asking what UGC content is.
	Do you want to?
	Yeah, so it's user-generated content.
	So, basically, for instance, like I have a contract with a car dealership in Hawthorne, and I make all their content for Instagram, and that's a month-to-month ordeal, or brands will send they'll pay for you to post stuff on your Instagram, or just create content for them to utilize for advertising or advertisements or whatever.
	User-generated content, so it's more authentic advertising, basically.
	Okay, so like if I don't know, some bidet company wants to, you would be like, wow, this bidet is so amazing.
	Yeah, kind of, yeah, kind of.
	You could, yeah.
	It cleans really well, or it doesn't.
	My booty hole feels great after this amazing bidet.
	Like, you got to make it like super viral and eye-catching.
	You got to give it some charisma.
	What about you?
	My name's Ava Madsen.
	I'm from Austin, Texas.
	And I went to the University of Idaho for kinesiology.
	I plan on going back in the fall for business marketing.
	And I do sales.
	All right.
	Age?
	20.
	20.
	And sorry, you're from where again?
	Texas, you said?
	I live in Austin, Texas right now, but I'm originally from Boise, Idaho.
	Idaho, okay, nice.
	All right, what about you?
	My name is Levi.
	I'm 25 years old.
	I currently work in the car business with my family.
	And I went to the University of Miami and studied biology.
	When did you graduate from there?
	2023.
	Okay, so two years ago, three years ago.
	And you said for work, though, you sell cars?
	Is that kind of do a little bit of everything.
	Like I said, it's a family-owned business.
	I work for my parents.
	In terms of the degree that you got in bio, you have a bachelor's?
	Yes.
	In bachelor's of science?
	You could do either.
	I have a bachelor of arts in biology.
	Okay.
	Did you have a sense of what you wanted to do with that?
	Medical school.
	Is that still on the table?
	It is.
	Okay.
	Have you applied to any medical schools?
	Have you taken the MCAT?
	No.
	So when I started, I wasn't really exactly sure what route I wanted to take.
	It kind of just was, I knew I was interested in science, so I chose something I thought would be interesting and fun to learn about.
	And eventually it kind of just, after I graduated, of course, I set myself on medical school.
	So in the meantime, between then and now, I've been adding up the prerequisites I didn't take in undergrad.
	So like biochemistry, physics.
	I did take organic chemistry.
	And then let's say after med school, do you have a sense of what kind of medical discipline you'd like to go into?
	Surgery.
	Any specific kind?
	Orthopedic or brain surgery?
	I liked plastics a lot.
	Or on so plastic surgery?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So like fake titties and shit?
	No, more so like reconstruction.
	Reconstructive.
	Okay.
	Like the good kind of plastic surgery.
	Although, I mean, don't.
	I'm actually curious, are there plastic surgeons that refuse to do the cosmetic plastic surgeries?
	I don't know.
	And they're like, you know what?
	I'm not going to give some fucking blondes some fucking fake titties, but I will, like, if somebody's half his face gets blown off, I'll do that.
	You know?
	I don't know.
	I guess, I mean, it's definitely up to the surgeon, of course.
	I mean, what surgeries they will and won't perform.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Enny.
	I'm 31 years old.
	I'm from Connecticut, but I was born in the Philippines.
	I work in human resources, but my degree is in human development, family science, and I have a minor in psychology.
	Shout out to the Discord gang.
	Shout out, whatever Discord gang, discord.gg slash whatever.
	All right, going around the table once more, we're going to have everybody share their relationship status.
	And so if you're single, how long have you been single?
	And longest relationship you've ever been in.
	I am in a relationship.
	I was with the same guy for seven years.
	We just recently got back together.
	Okay.
	So should we just say seven years then?
	Sure.
	He had a few girlfriends in between there, but.
	How long were you guys split up?
	Like a year.
	One year.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you guys met in high school?
	I was 11 and he was 18 when we met, but it wasn't like that until I was 18.
	Yes.
	It wasn't like that until I was 18.
	Well, but I had a crush on him.
	Was it like a family friend or something?
	Yeah, my best friend's brother.
	What?
	Do you guys think that's a bit of a yikes?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Super yikes.
	I don't know.
	That is a bit of a yikes.
	I mean, obviously, you guys then, you were, you started dating when you turned 18.
	Well, technically, I was 17, but almost 18.
	Like, really so.
	Where did you live?
	In New York at the time.
	Okay.
	There's no Romeo and Juliet law there.
	I don't think it was a lot.
	Well, it's not even that.
	I mean, I know certain.
	Isn't the federal federal level the age of consent is 18?
	I know some states, it's like lower.
	It's still kind of like that's still kind of, I don't know.
	So who made the move?
	Actually me.
	I was obsessed with him.
	Did you have like pictures of him in your room growing up?
	I wish, no, like a poster on the wall?
	No.
	I was just obsessed with him.
	I would visit my best friend's house a lot and he would always be there.
	I called him hot brother.
	Because my best friend has one hot brother and one ugly brother.
	Or, well, sorry.
	Sorry, Kyrie.
	But yeah, I made the mood first.
	I got his Snapchat.
	I told him that I would guzzle a bucket of his juices.
	And then he added me on Snapchat.
	What?
	Whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	I didn't use the word juices, though.
	Is that like reverse grooming?
	Yes.
	How old are you?
	You said sperm.
	17.
	Or come or something.
	Yeah.
	At 17.
	Yeah.
	And he's 25.
	Well, he said, wait, he was eight years older?
	Wait, hold on.
	He was 18 when I was 11.
	Okay, seven years older.
	So he's 24.
	Yikes.
	It's a bit of a yikes, I'm going to be honest.
	A little bit.
	But, okay, so then you start dating at New York?
	Yeah.
	You were in New York?
	I moved him down to Florida with my family, though.
	You moved him down?
	Was he homeless?
	Well, his mom kicked him out, and he was kind of like in between.
	So I guess, yeah, kind of.
	Okay.
	Well, I guess.
	How does your family feel about this?
	Oh, they love him.
	They love him so much.
	He's actually a really good guy.
	I understand it sounds crazy.
	But hold on.
	So when you say you moved him to Florida, what do you mean?
	Well, he was kind of down.
	He didn't have a job.
	But had you already been dating, or was this at the very forefront of the relationship?
	So this is literally like a week into it.
	Week or two.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Because New York, and I don't know if there's like some overarching federal law or whatever, New York, the age of consent is 17 years old.
	However, the age of consent in Florida is 18 years old.
	And then further, it sounds like there were some digital exchanges, which across the board is illegal, yes.
	That is probably a little, yeah.
	I think that's doesn't matter, you know, if you're sending like explicit content under the age of 18, that's major yikes.
	Okay.
	But and you're currently still in a relationship with this guy.
	So I left him for a while.
	I just recently took him back.
	Were you guys on and off again more than once?
	No.
	Oh, wait.
	For one month in like the beginning of our relationship, we broke up because he cheated.
	And then I got back together with him and I kind of cheated a lot.
	How many women did he cheat?
	He effed one of my best friends.
	And then there were like probably 10 other random ones.
	That's awesome.
	And did you cheat too?
	Oh, yeah.
	Afterwards?
	Oh, yeah.
	Like.
	After he cheated.
	Yeah.
	After he cheated, I like made it my mission.
	Before your mission.
	Yeah, I made it my mission to cheat on him, which is so stupid.
	What a waste of time.
	But before that, no, I was a good girl.
	I cheated on my boyfriends that weren't him before that, but not on him.
	Keep going.
	Well, what else do you want to know?
	Wait, he's 32 now?
	Yeah.
	I had a question.
	You said his mom kicked him out.
	How did that, why?
	Oh, he has a baby mother that isn't me, and he left her.
	And his mom didn't like that.
	Did he leave her for you?
	We started talking after they broke up, but they were still kind of like she was still living in his mom's house with him.
	So it was an interesting situation.
	Okay.
	Did anybody want to weigh in on the I wouldn't even call it an age gap because you're a minor technically?
	That's a different territory.
	Do you guys think a bit yikes?
	Oh, yeah.
	Super, super yikes.
	Super.
	Or not that bad.
	Or fine?
	I think after a certain age, an age gap doesn't matter.
	But prior to that, it's a little conflicting.
	I'm speaking of this specific one.
	17, so she's not technically an adult.
	She's a minor and with a 24-year-old.
	I think 24.
	Well, I would say it's a little yikes, but you guys have stuck it through this whole time.
	So no more issues.
	I have a question.
	I don't think there's, well, I don't think there's currently like your current age gap.
	That's fine.
	That's no problem.
	That's not an issue.
	Although it is a bit conf like, I think it's yikes, but you were the pursuer.
	Oh, yeah.
	So that adds another layer to the whole thing.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Can I ask my question?
	Yeah.
	Do you have a monogamy problem?
	Are you do you like or do you prefer like a polygamous relationship?
	Because no.
	If you guys are just like cheating on each other all the time.
	No, I actually really don't like cheating.
	I was doing it purely in revenge.
	I wouldn't do that now.
	But when I was younger, it was a good idea to me to make him feel the way that he made me feel.
	But I am monogamous, I think, for myself.
	I would say in your wedding speech, from a gallon of your juice to saying, I do, I love you, you know?
	Make sure to include that.
	How my grandparents would like to do that.
	Yeah, that initial message you sent him, was that repeated again?
	Sorry.
	I will guzzle a bucket of your come.
	And was that your opening line?
	Yes.
	And it wasn't a message.
	It was like an audio.
	Like my best friend was on the phone, and I said it on speaker to him.
	Like on a call, not like a voice recording.
	No, like it was live.
	Yeah, a call, live stream.
	Were you sober?
	Yeah, I was sober.
	And it was, had you, I mean, you were like family friends or whatever.
	Like he was the friend of your brother, right?
	What?
	No, he's my best friend's brother.
	He's your.
	Okay, so your best friend is a girl.
	My best friend's a boy, Kyle.
	We grew up together.
	How old is your best Kyle?
	Same exact age as me.
	And you were crushing on the much older brother?
	Yeah.
	Not the best friend who's your same age?
	Yeah, I've always been like that, though.
	I like older guys.
	At 11.
	What the fuck?
	I think that makes it so much weirder that he knew you as a kid and then oh yeah, I know.
	I think it's a very good idea.
	I think that's weird.
	Like.
	I think it's very yikes for him, but for you to be like, I don't know, if it was like growing up, like at your age 17 saying that to him, you knew what you were doing.
	Like you knew your intentions, but for him to be at his age, that's very yikes for him.
	But it's still like a very poor situation to be in.
	Age doesn't matter to know like right from wrong.
	So at 11, that's kind of insane.
	Especially like the whole cheating aspect, like morality, that's terrible.
	Yeah.
	She didn't have those thoughts at 11.
	I didn't say that.
	I said it when I was 17.
	At 11, it was a simple crush.
	Well, cheating was no time, but that's morally insane.
	My follow-up, though, is, so this was the brother of your male best friend.
	Yes.
	And then how did this phone call like had you not spoken to him for a period of time?
	I had seen him in person a couple times.
	Okay.
	But then I found out him and his girlfriend broke up.
	So I just went full force ahead.
	Okay, so his girlfriend broke up.
	Like how long had they been dating?
	Like four years.
	Four years.
	And then when you say, okay, so I guess two questions.
	Prior to the phone call, when was the last time you had had any contact with the guy?
	Maybe like two years it had been since I've seen him.
	Or talked to him.
	Or talk to him.
	Yeah.
	No, no, like texting.
	No, nothing.
	I didn't have to.
	This was like a, hey, haven't spoken to you in two years, haven't seen you in two years.
	Completely almost sounds like spontaneous impromptu phone conversation.
	And then how soon after the breakup with his four-year girlfriend did this phone call take place?
	The day of?
	Like a week.
	A week after.
	And your opening line was what again?
	I'm going to guzzle a bucket of your cum.
	Whoa.
	Hold on.
	Watch!
	Excuse me.
	Not like, oh, hey, Jeff, how's it going?
	How's it been?
	Like, that was your first thing you said.
	I just kind of say what comes to my brain, and that was what came.
	What was your best friend's reaction?
	I don't think it was much of a reaction.
	I'm kind of like that a lot.
	Well, not like sexual like that, but just like Problem at all with his older brother and someone who he's grown up with known since he was a little kid.
	No, he actually encouraged it.
	Because then when I was in your both my parents in my life, yes.
	They're both doctors.
	Do you think he's the one?
	I don't know if I believe in the one.
	I think so many people.
	And I'm married.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But we have three kids together, so.
	Wait, what?
	We have three children together.
	That's why I got back with him in the first place.
	Hold on.
	You have three kids.
	Three boys.
	Three boys.
	What are their names?
	Stephan, Jeremiah, and Leo.
	cute are you hold on Date of birth?
	Of them?
	Just the years.
	Oh, 2019, 2020, and 2023.
	Hmm.
	How old are you?
	I don't believe you.
	25.
	I don't believe you.
	I think you're trolled.
	Do you have photos of them on your phone?
	I do, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yo, chat, do you think she's lying?
	I think this is a troll.
	I think we're getting trolled right now.
	So you have three kids.
	Yes.
	You're his second baby mama?
	Yeah.
	You don't think you're like a homewrecker?
	A little bit.
	I did feel I've processed how horrible I handled things when I was 17 towards his baby mother, and I have apologized since then.
	Home wrecker, I wouldn't consider it because I didn't have any contact with him before they broke up.
	But it was a week after, so that is pretty shitty, you know.
	And are you afraid it's going to happen to you?
	It has happened to me like 20 times over.
	Is he white?
	He's black.
	So wait, you were how old when you had the first kid or when you got like I was 18.
	And you got pregnant also 18?
	I think I had just turned 18.
	I had him in March of 2019, my first baby.
	My birthday is July.
	So 2019, I turned 19 in July.
	So I was 18 when I had him.
	I might have been 17 when I got pregnant with him.
	I'm not sure.
	Did the other baby mama have the kids around the same time you had your kids?
	Like, was it close together or even at the same time?
	Her daughter was three or four.
	Has he had any other kids with any other women since then?
	No.
	Not that I know of.
	Have you ever been married?
	No.
	In your pre-show notes, it says you left your husband.
	Oh, I just call him that.
	I left my.
	We were engaged.
	It was fiancé.
	At 17?
	Yeah.
	You said you left him for another man after you cheated on him for years.
	Yeah.
	And you've cheated since.
	Yes.
	Well, not on him.
	And been a horrible girlfriend in every type of way.
	Yes.
	And your kids are going to see that.
	Boys.
	I think in order to better yourself, you have to be bad at whatever you're doing.
	So I think by me being a shitty girlfriend, it built me to where I can make myself into a good girlfriend.
	Uh-huh.
	You speak as if you're okay with your actions.
	I don't think I'm okay, or I'm not okay with my actions.
	I just don't want to hide my actions because people's pasts are important.
	What do you do now that is different than what you used to do?
	Like, what do you do better now than what you used to do?
	I don't cheat.
	That's pretty much the only problem I had before, really.
	You like cater to your boyfriend or anything?
	Like, what do you do?
	Besides just being there, I cook and clean, I guess, if that's what you're talking about.
	I mean, hold on, he also cheated on you, so it's like it's not a one-sided thing.
	Like, how has he improved?
	So many times, I don't, I'm honestly not even sure if he has improved.
	I'm kind of just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
	It's a sticky situation when you have children together.
	And I feel like that influenced me to take him back a lot.
	Were the other two, I hate to use the word accidents or intentional.
	So the first two were accidents.
	I had an IUD in and it migrated.
	So I got pregnant.
	Wow.
	And then my most recent baby, my two-year-old, he was not an accident.
	He was planned.
	Do you have anything?
	I think I'm just a little con, sorry.
	I'm just a little confused because I thought Brian just said in your thing, it said you still cheat to this day.
	No.
	It said that.
	I thought I've heard you say that.
	Yeah, you wrote you've cheated since.
	Yeah, not to this day.
	So, how does that make you a better person still, though, now if you have cheated since, though?
	Because I didn't learn from that time cheating on him.
	So it took me two relationships after that where I cheated on them to realize that's really fucked up and I shouldn't be doing that.
	Just here.
	Here's what I want to do, just so I'm not lingering on this too long.
	You guys, you guys talk about this for two minutes.
	Here, get up.
	Show me the photos.
	Okay.
	Of my kids?
	Yeah.
	Let's verify.
	What I want to know is the root of the cheating.
	Like, cheating just doesn't happen.
	There's a root.
	So I don't know.
	You're not just being like a terrible person.
	What do you mean?
	If you're with someone you truly love, then you just have no desire to want to cheat.
	Like you just have no desire for anyone else.
	Honestly, something more.
	Makes sense.
	I'm trying to put two plus two together.
	So if she was born in July, is that cancer?
	Because if that's cancer behavior for me, I see that that has to do with cheating on your partner.
	Yeah, that's a morality problem.
	You need guys.
	Like that's that's concerning.
	I think with the reverse grooming, there's already something like it has nothing to do with maturity.
	Sorry about it.
	It doesn't have anything to do with being groomed.
	You can be assaulted.
	You can be groomed.
	And it still was kind of emotional.
	Oh, yeah.
	An 11-year-old is attracted to an 18-year-old.
	Usually, when that is the case, that means there was some sort of like I had crushes on older guys in early childhood, whether that's sexual or emotional.
	I think it's normal to like see someone like, oh, they're attractive when you're younger because like we're used to that.
	But it's pursuing it later.
	That person knows you as a child.
	That's creepy.
	There's definitely more.
	It doesn't have to be abuse either because some people are just messed up in their heads.
	Okay, but at that point, like, that's mental.
	What if they met like well into her 20s?
	You guys still would do the math and you're like, oh, technically it's you guys met.
	They don't know either.
	Yeah, you meet somebody as a 20-year-old.
	No, I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying like at a certain point, we kind of no longer worry about the age gap.
	And it's like, I've put it in the bathroom.
	We have a legal age limit for that in this country.
	It's 18, you know what I mean?
	So I know.
	It's just a little different when you know someone at an adolescent age, pre-pubescent age, and then you it's just aligned.
	I think he should have been a little bit more cautious with her, with knowing that she well, everyone around her seems to approve of it, family included.
	So maybe she has daddy issues.
	She said her parents are both doctors.
	So I mean, that doesn't mean she doesn't have daddy issues, but it doesn't seem like her parents are like losers or something.
	Seems like they provided her.
	Seems like they provided her.
	I mean, it's not like you had a lack of resources.
	I have a question for you.
	Yes.
	Do you think that you guys will ever actually repair your trust to each other and be loyal to each other fully?
	I will never trust him.
	As for his trust for me, I really.
	How can you have love when you have no trust?
	It's more like a familial love.
	Like a he's been around so long that I've developed like, would you say that it's more of like a comfort thing?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Probably used to him.
	So what is the point in living your life in comfortability?
	Like that just seems off.
	You're just going to be miserable.
	I'm not miserable, though.
	I've been cheated on by other people since then as well.
	And I'm just not really as worried as I used to be when I was a teenager.
	You're setting a good example for your children by staying with a man that's consistently cheated on you and shown that he doesn't respect you.
	Do you think that your boys will grow up respecting women if they've seen the way that his father treats their mother?
	I think they will respect women based on what they see from their father.
	But what they've seen has been cheating and it's been consistent throughout your entire relationship.
	They don't know any of that.
	Not yet, but they will come to that age where they will understand that.
	Eventually, and then all of their roots will be laid down.
	They're not going to just one day be like, oh, my mom, I'm finding out my mom got cheated on.
	Better go disrespect women.
	Well, it's the fact that they see that he cheated on you and you decided to stay.
	So they're like, oh, if I go cheat on my girlfriend, then maybe they'll stay.
	Maybe it's still.
	Well, yeah, and then that's their.
	That might be awesome.
	Why would you want to raise people in that?
	Yo, Jay, thank you for the merch purchase.
	Also, Dane, thank you for the 10 on Venmo.
	Craig, thank you for the 20 on Cash App.
	So I did verify.
	You know, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't some FBI verification, but it's either the most elaborate troll ever.
	She has photos with her and her children that are dated on the phone into like 2023, 2022.
	So I have to rule out that she generated these photos in like AI or Chat GPT.
	It's possible you can do some things with the like EXIF data or whatever to change the date of photos.
	Yeah.
	So it's either the most elaborate troll ever, but I'm going to go ahead and, I mean, based off what she showed me on her phone, she showed me photos of the, you know, the kids are legit.
	She does have a black boyfriend.
	Mixed race kids.
	I mean, this is either the most elaborate shit ever.
	So I'm, it's legit.
	She's just brutally honest.
	So I mean, I'll congratulate her for that.
	It did come off like a troll, though.
	I do have to say, but I did verify it and it is, to my knowledge, legitimate.
	So, okay, wow, that's quite a story.
	Off to a good start, I'd say.
	Anyways, we'll come back to some of that stuff later.
	We're going to get the rest of the relationship statuses, relationship status.
	I am single for life.
	But I mean, okay, I had a lot of like very short-term relationships, but I never, I mean, I am fairly young, I gotta say, but so I kind of didn't have time to actually be with someone for like a long, like five years, whatever.
	But I just feel like I had like all of my relationships were three months, four months, two months, and I've never, or maybe the person never managed to keep me.
	I never managed to keep a person around me.
	I don't know.
	They never managed to keep you, or you never managed to keep them.
	That's what I'm trying to find out.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Well, you said you've had many short term.
	Is that what you said?
	Yeah.
	Short term.
	What's the longest period of time that you've been with somebody?
	Okay, I need a moment to think.
	Probably four months.
	Four months.
	And you're currently single?
	Yeah.
	Or is there a guy in the picture?
	There's like three guys in the picture.
	Three guys?
	Okay, no, hey, we've already double-sided for this because I was just.
	We appreciate the honesty.
	You said.
	Okay, so three guys in the picture.
	What does that mean?
	Okay.
	Three guys in the picture.
	One of them is currently in New York, but he likes me a lot more than I like him.
	And he wants to, like, he's he was trying to move to LA to be around me because he was like, oh, I like LA.
	Let me move to you or stuff like that.
	But I was like, don't be so serious because I don't like you.
	And I had like false.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You said.
	What?
	You said you don't like.
	You said I don't like you to him.
	Yeah, I okay.
	So I had a sense of feeling that I did like him.
	But then I think that was the first time we met.
	That was like last year.
	And we met for only one day.
	And we like, because I don't live in New York, we just flew there.
	He flew you there?
	No, I flew there for to meet him or for something else?
	For something else.
	I think it was just a second time.
	Wait, how did you guys meet?
	I just need a place to stay.
	No, but how did you meet?
	Like on a dating app or yeah, dating app dating, yeah.
	Hinge?
	No, it's like...
	Brianna?
	Tender?
	No.
	Oh, I don't use tender.
	Russian.
	I don't think.
	Yeah.
	It's like a telegram.
	Telegram, exactly.
	So he's Russian?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	It's like a Russian dating app.
	For spies.
	Creepy.
	Ew.
	So wait.
	Okay.
	So there's three guys in the picture, though.
	Yeah.
	Three.
	Is it more?
	Four or five?
	How big is the roster?
	How about that?
	Huge.
	Huge?
	Okay.
	What is.
	I mean, it's just like, I feel like a lot of mixed signals.
	Like, I.
	Yeah.
	I mean, look, you just, you're new in LA, young.
	You're an actress, model, singer?
	I, okay, my main thing is a music artist.
	A lot of people see me as a model, so I model like a little bit.
	Okay.
	Do these guys know that they're on a roster?
	Are you honest with them?
	No.
	I think she's honest with us, though.
	Yes.
	And that's what matters.
	Screw the guy, but she's being honest with us.
	That's what matters here.
	So how big is the roster?
	Ten guys?
	I have to count, but okay, I think.
	It's probably like.
	Are they going to watch this?
	Hold on.
	They might.
	Probably like at least eight.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	At least eight.
	And then there's three that are in the picture.
	Like the main picture.
	Not the background.
	Okay.
	And are you like, you're hooking up with them?
	Well.
	The three.
	I wouldn't say it's like that serious.
	I mean, I kind of.
	Well, I'm not saying it's serious, but you're you are hooking up.
	Well, okay, yeah.
	Having sex.
	Honestly, no.
	With two of them?
	No.
	One of them?
	No.
	So you're not having sex with anybody?
	No.
	But you have three guys in the picture in the roster of eight.
	So what you're just doing what then?
	I think okay, because I think I mentioned the mixed signals like I think I like someone and then I start to speak to them and then I'm like okay no, and then I move on to the next person.
	I'm also noticing something that I don't like about them and I just can't stop.
	Like I just have to stop and but they're already like into me and I can't like get rid of them.
	What do you mean?
	You can't get rid of them?
	Oh uh hey hey, it was uh, it was really nice to meet you, but you know, I'm just not sure if it's the right fit.
	I hope you, I wish you the best in what you're looking for.
	That's it, that's all you have to say.
	I think I'm too insecure to like actually go out like that, be like hey, you know what okay, all of this, it doesn't matter to me.
	You know like bye, I can't.
	I like I don't know, you don't say that, but you say.
	Well, that essentially what I say.
	I mean hey listen, it was really nice meeting you.
	You seem like a great person, but I don't.
	I just don't think it's the right fit.
	I wish you good luck in what you're looking for.
	That's in essence.
	No, that's, that's what I would say, like when I was like 14.
	That's what I would say.
	So you were more mature at 14 than you are currently.
	Oh, so what do you?
	You just keep them.
	You string them along.
	Now, 14 communication hey, the Russians, you give communication.
	The Americans, you string them along in your Russian honey honeypot essentially.
	But okay.
	So the three guys who are in the picture, are any of them living in LA?
	Oh yeah okay, and how long have they been in the picture?
	For one of them's been in the picture for two years.
	The other one has been in the picture for like half a year or maybe like six months yeah, and the third one's been in the picture for three, three years.
	Which one's?
	The New York guy?
	The New York guy is the one that's been in the picture for a year.
	Wait, so you said one year, half a year and three years yeah, and you all met them on dating apps.
	No actually, no.
	How old are the guys?
	Um, I don't know.
	Hold on.
	I think one of them was, how old is he?
	Okay, the one from New York is 23.
	I hope they they're not watching this okay um, the one from L A, also 23.
	And the one who who's?
	The who's known me for three years is is uh 31, and how old are you?
	She's 18.
	Okay.
	So at 15, she geez.
	Oh, my god, the ikes.
	Uh, how did?
	But you were living in Arizona three years ago, correct yeah?
	So then how?
	How did a 20?
	At the time I suppose he would have been what 28?
	How does a 28 year old mean a 15 year old living with her Russian parents in Arizona as a new immigrant?
	Actually very weird.
	Okay, I was living in Arizona but I used to fly to L A, just to.
	I was trying to like get probably like get in the, the industry.
	So I was like flying back and forth, I mean Tucson's kind of close in like an hour flight.
	Yeah, it's a short flight, so I just like do gigs here, fly back and forth, work in LA and then fly back to Arizona, then work in LA and fly back to Arizona, and we kind of met through.
	I think it was like an acting Gig.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so, wait, and just remind me, there's a one-year guy, a six-month guy, and a three-year guy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you haven't had sex with any of them?
	No, I stay away from people, kind of.
	Wait, so yes, you have had sex with them?
	No, no.
	I'm like avoidant.
	Avoidant.
	Yeah, like.
	So you've been.
	How often would you say you see these guys?
	Did you live with one of them?
	No, not anymore.
	You were living with one in LA?
	I used to live with one in LA and one in New York.
	So they would the New York guy would fly you out?
	No, he wouldn't fly me out, but I would just like it would be convenient because I would have a place to stay.
	So you would pay for your own flights to New York.
	Unless you had a gig and the company paid for it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So.
	I'm trying to get a read on this.
	So you've had.
	Not to mention the other men on your roster, some of which I assume have come and gone.
	So at other points, maybe you had different men on the roster.
	But currently the roster stands at eight.
	There's three guys in the picture.
	You've been with three.
	Well, one of them for six months, one of them for a year, one of them for three years.
	And you haven't had sex with any of them.
	What are they?
	What exactly?
	I guess what are they getting out of the relationship?
	I'm trying to.
	I don't know.
	Like, I guess I'm just a nice person to be around.
	Yeah, but I mean, I mean, look, you're an attractive gal, and I mean, you seem pleasant, although pleasantness kind of dissipates quite quickly if your attention is shared, unless they're cucks, which I'm going to assume is the case.
	Because no man who's, I mean, well, it's actually can be quite shocking what men are when they have forsaken all standards, will do.
	But no man should really be tolerating and dating a girl for this period of time and she's not exclusive to him.
	Hey, you're not having sex, that's okay, but you're not exclusive.
	What are these guys even getting?
	They're just paying for your shit?
	Well, honestly, it's more like, I don't know, for me, they feel like friends and they take it like too serious.
	Because I just think everyone takes me too serious, but I can't be serious.
	I just, I just can't make myself be serious with someone.
	I feel like I'm focused more on like, I don't know, career, music, and I can't like force my whole attention on a person and like on a guy.
	Like he's like, oh, you know, like, let's do this, do that.
	Like, I don't know.
	I cannot.
	Do you feel like it's more entertainment for all parties?
	Like, you're just kind of hanging out.
	You're just like whatever and not an actual relationship?
	Or are these like actual relationships?
	Do these guys think that they're in an actual relationship with you?
	I, okay.
	They think they are in an actual relationship, but I don't trust them.
	So you didn't necessarily establish what they're going to get out of this at the start?
	Like you say, when you meet them, you're like, hey, I'm not interested in this or that.
	I'm just trying to do me or whatever.
	Have you like ever had that conversation?
	I never stated that because I'm not clear with myself.
	Like I can't scan myself and say, okay, you know, like I know that I'm not going to be paying attention to you, so buy.
	That's also not an option because I never know.
	Maybe someone comes around and I like feel something and I'm like, wow, okay.
	Let's date.
	But are they aware that you're dating other men?
	No.
	So wait, wait, hold on.
	Are you telling them that you're boyfriend-girlfriend to the guys, the three guys or whatever?
	Uh yeah.
	I mean, to two of them.
	Do you guys kiss?
	You guys do anything.
	We kiss.
	Yeah, we kiss.
	I do want to say there are men out there that are open to a polygamous relationship and you can be honest with them and just have that if that's what you want, instead of lying, because in general, I think that, like we attract who we are and so you're only gonna keep attracting people that are also like probably lying to you about something and, at the end of the day, it can end up putting you in a bad space.
	Honestly, that made sense.
	I have to think about that, because I think I just have like huge trust issues like I can have, like I can have a person like around me, but I could never let them like actually I don't know like if they want to have sex with me, it's a, it's a whole different thing.
	Like I'm gonna look at them from a different aspect and I'm gonna probably like give them time or just I mean wait, but do you have, do you have sex with any of these guys?
	Not recently?
	I mean no well, okay.
	So there's the three guys.
	Have you?
	Maybe you're not having sex with them currently, which is curious, but have you had sex with them at some point?
	Not with those, not with the three, but then men who are transient on your roster.
	You have had sex with.
	Yeah, so just to be clear, the men who are seem most serious about you, who have been with you, despite your divided attention, for six months, one year, three years, they don't get sex.
	But there are men who just get it instantly or quick.
	Is that honestly?
	Yeah okay yeah, that sounds like like.
	Have you had a like with a?
	Have you had a hookup with, like a hot dude or something?
	Yeah, hookups in La with hot guys, celebrities yeah.
	Okay no honestly no not, not in, like I had one in Vegas, but not in with a celebrity, or just a guy who was hot.
	He's not so much of a well, maybe like a partial celebrity, I don't know how to like think of it athlete musician actor youtuber creator musician musician rapper, kind of yeah yeah, hold on, let me play this, sorry for the delay, and then we'll get right back.
	Metro Mac Donated, 200 FBI and CIA rubbing their hands together watching this show.
	Care too.
	How have you only lived in the U.s.
	But known someone for three Brian Call Lifes on this trollop, wait.
	So just for the timeline as a reminder, you moved to the United States when you were 16 16 um, so you've been here for what's to the math?
	So i'm 18, but my birthday is in three, two and a half months, so i'm almost 19.
	hold on that means i made a mistake in my all right i moved okay let's be clear what year did you move to the united states 2020 23 2023 okay it was septemberish okay uh yeah And the New York guy is the three-year guy?
	No.
	Or wait, I don't know.
	So, okay, wait, hold on.
	September 2009?
	Is this like legit?
	Or are you just making this shit up?
	Okay.
	It's a lot to keep up with.
	that's a lot of details um i'm just shocked that these guys you allege have been dating you for a year three years six months that they are you uh have you told them that you're a virgin i uh I'm not a virgin.
	No, but have you told them that?
	Like, you know?
	No.
	Oh, honestly.
	No.
	Probably not.
	Oh, okay.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, I'll have some further thoughts on that in a moment.
	But first, I want to let everybody else introduce or share their relationship status.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	For how long?
	For about two years now.
	Longest relationship?
	Was two years about.
	Who broke up with who?
	We were like on and off in those two years.
	So the ultimate like off period was done by me though.
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	So you've been single for two years.
	Any guys in the picture?
	Talking to situationship?
	Yeah, there's one.
	One guy.
	Talking stage.
	Situation.
	Talking stage-ish.
	Like, in the very long beginning.
	How long?
	Like, literally, very beginning, like a week-ish.
	You've been talking to him for one week?
	We've been talking for more than a week as friends, but we've been like talking to be more than friends for a week.
	Gotcha.
	What about you?
	I am single soon seven months.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	A year.
	Is that the one that ended seven months ago?
	Yeah.
	Who broke up with who?
	He did.
	He broke up with me.
	Why is that?
	He said that it was a distance thing.
	We were a long-distance relationship.
	He lived in Mass.
	He lives in Massachusetts.
	I live in Jersey.
	And he couldn't.
	He didn't have enough patience to wait for me to save up a little bit more so that I could move to Massachusetts with him.
	And there were, I think, like, us being freelancers in the film and TV industry, it's being tough right now.
	I think he kind of took his frustrations out of struggling with work out on our relationship.
	And he just didn't want to step out of his comfort zone.
	All right, gotcha.
	You've been single for seven months.
	Any guys in the picture in any capacity?
	Not really.
	It's been a little tough just because I'm trying to move on.
	Have you had a rebound?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Is he in the picture?
	No.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I made it clear from the get-go that I'm not looking for anything.
	Gotcha.
	What about you?
	I'm married.
	We've been married for two years together for three.
	How many kids?
	Two.
	Both with him?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	We have a 20-month-old and eight-month-old.
	Gotcha.
	What about you?
	I am single as a Pringle, and I've been single for almost two years.
	Longest relationship?
	Two and a half years.
	Is that the one that ended two years ago?
	No, it was my first ever relationship.
	It was two and a half years.
	How long was the relationship two years ago?
	Eight months.
	Eight months.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Longest relationship?
	Who broke up with who?
	I think I broke up with him as well.
	I was really young.
	Okay.
	You've been single for two years.
	Any guys in the picture since or in that time period?
	I've gone on dates.
	I've kind of chit-chatted, hung out with guys, short flings, seeing if it works.
	I was with a guy, not really in a full-on relationship.
	Whenever I was living in Southeast Asia, and we split and ended up, we knew it wasn't going to be a relationship relationship because we were both expats in Bali and then we were splitting, going our separate ways.
	But we hung out, really liked each other, and it was really good.
	And then I recently was talking to someone for about a month or so.
	And we went on a very long date.
	And then come to find out, it just personality-wise and kind of what we wanted out of life just didn't mesh.
	Give us the quick story.
	When you say very long date, what do you mean?
	It was an 11-day long date.
	Hold on.
	What?
	11 days?
	11 days.
	So you didn't leave each other for 11 days.
	Yeah, I ended up spending Thanksgiving with his family and also his dad's birthday with him and his family.
	Okay.
	Did you look at his house all this time?
	No.
	So, okay, so he still lives at home with his parents.
	W.
	And, yeah, he's a couple years older than me.
	But we got a hotel, like Airbnb situation, and we stayed there.
	This was on my tour from, I was driving from Texas to LA, just moved to LA.
	And I stopped in Vegas to visit him.
	And we were supposed to just go on a date.
	And then it was, okay, three days.
	And then it was five days.
	And then it was just kept on adding and adding and adding.
	And I didn't have anywhere to go for Thanksgiving.
	I was going to spend Thanksgiving by myself.
	So we just extended for me to spend Thanksgiving with his family.
	And basically at the end of it, yeah, I just didn't, I didn't feel the, oh my God, I'm obsessed with you like I did whenever we were talking over the phone.
	And I'd met him before several times.
	He had hired me as a photographer that I worked with.
	And I'm friends with his sister and it's very kind of complex.
	But when you first were speaking to him on the phone, you guys met on the dating app or something?
	No, no.
	So I've known him and his sister.
	His sister is a model and a makeup artist and he's a photographer.
	Okay, so like industry, you work together or something.
	Yeah, we met on a shoot about three years ago.
	Okay.
	And then he had hired me whenever I toured LA.
	And then I met him again on another shoot that his sister was doing my hair makeup for.
	And he was there shooting and learning from the photographer that was shooting us.
	And we just like seemed to really click in that moment.
	But whenever we spent 11 days together, we were not clicking.
	Not clicking.
	Well, hold on.
	You said when you spoke to him on the phone, at that point, in that moment, you felt obsessed?
	Yeah, so we were, so, okay, let me back up a little bit, give you some more details here.
	So we, October 6th, I had my shoot, right?
	Yes, I talk with my hands.
	I cannot sell it.
	She does the talk.
	The bird claw.
	The bird.
	I love it.
	The henpeck.
	My mom makes fun of me for doing that as well.
	So I'll have to let her know that someone else did that.
	W mom.
	Yeah, so October 6th, we saw each other at a shoot again, and we had been just kind of like chit-chatty back and forth on Instagram a little bit.
	And he's really funny.
	He's a super, super funny guy.
	We have the same sense of humor.
	And so I was joking with him about like, okay, you have to make me laugh all day on set.
	And so then we were giggly all day on set.
	And then I was like, I think I have a crush on you.
	And he was like, yeah, I'm smitten.
	The feeling's mutual.
	You said that in person?
	No, I said that after I left.
	I sent him a message.
	I texted him that.
	I did, yeah.
	And I was like, okay, but I'm really good friends with your sister.
	I have to ask your sister first if like this is okay if we go on a date.
	And so I texted her and she was like, oh my gosh, I'll ship you two.
	Absolutely.
	Because I know that if you end up not really liking him or something, that you'll tell him and be honest.
	So I'm a very transparent person and she knows that.
	Okay, so you spoke on the phone.
	So for a month before we got to, we scheduled out our date a month ahead.
	And so we were just talking on the phone until I got to Vegas.
	How often would you talk on the phone?
	Every day, all day long.
	Oh my God.
	Yikes.
	Every day, all day long.
	And so we thought it was a really good match because of this.
	Ew, that's, I'm sorry.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	You guys talked on the phone?
	Texted and spoke on the phone, yeah.
	You texted and how often would you, like multiple texts per day?
	Yeah.
	How often would you speak on or how long would you speak on the phone for?
	Sometimes just a couple minutes and sometimes like an hour or two, depending.
	Every day for a month?
	No, we didn't talk on the phone, physically pick up the phone and call every day.
	I don't have time for that.
	Okay, but you did have you'd didn't you say you spoke on the phone every day?
	Yeah.
	My bad.
	Let me rephrase it.
	So we texted.
	You texted me.
	Texted and sometimes called.
	Okay, so you called a couple times.
	Yeah, I called a couple times.
	We did a FaceTime call.
	Yeah, and we were both like super excited and we seemed like it was going to be great.
	also wrote letters to each other physical letters to each other which was adorable because i made a joke about like emails or actual no actual handwritten mail that shit Did you do cursive?
	Do they still teach cursive?
	I don't think so.
	They don't curse.
	I don't think they still teach it.
	Does anybody here know how to write cursive?
	I do.
	I thought they, didn't they get rid of it?
	I don't know.
	They did.
	I know how to write cursive.
	All right.
	So, okay, you wrote letters.
	Wow, that's a lot.
	Hold on.
	I have to play noise for this.
	I don't know, man.
	That sounds like a lot of work.
	It was a lot of work, and we were both very excited.
	Can I ask the panel a question really quick and I'll let you finish your story?
	But I don't know if this makes me a terrible person.
	I could be smitten.
	I could be head over heels with a girl.
	I don't think I'd even want to talk to her as frequently.
	Like, this could be like the girl of my dreams, and I'd still be like, get away from me a little bit.
	You know, I don't know if that makes me a bad person, but like a little bit of space.
	Like, even if I really like the girl, like, I'm not going to be all up on her like that.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	My husband and I, when we started talking, we really only talked like every third day.
	Good.
	Like, we just, I'm horrible at answering and texting.
	I love that.
	You know, we just would talk every third day.
	We didn't have to talk every single day.
	I like the girl to respond immediately to me, but she needs to give me 72 hours.
	That's the dynamic that I'm like, I don't think you can expect a woman to simp for you, but also like only text them once every three days.
	Oh, you can't.
	A simpy woman is going to obsess with you, right?
	She can obsess?
	That's frequent.
	At a safe distance.
	Then it's not obsessed.
	Well, no, no, I don't want like stock or obsessed, but I want like, oh, yeah, I got you.
	Like, it's okay.
	Yeah.
	That's what I want.
	But anyway, sorry.
	Not to make it about me.
	Now tell us what you want.
	Your story.
	Your story.
	Okay, so then you go on the, you meet him, and then 11 days.
	11 days.
	Yeah.
	It was a lot.
	And I think what happened was there was just a lot of buildup to this.
	There was a lot of excitement for whatever reason.
	Like, I love his family.
	I love his sister.
	So there was a lot of, you know, daydreaming going on.
	I'm a romantic and I watch a lot of Hallmark movies.
	Huh?
	Oh, you saw me.
	You saw me going for the Stream Deck?
	Yeah, go for it.
	I don't know what I was going to play.
	I love him too.
	It's okay.
	Okay, continue.
	I didn't find it in time.
	So, yeah, I think that there was just way too much.
	We both agree.
	Like, we talked about it.
	There's way too much buildup.
	And in person, like he, because I'm typically that way.
	I'm typically, don't text me so much.
	Don't text me all the time.
	I don't have time for this.
	I'm not going to text you every day all day long.
	And I did with him.
	So I thought that was a good sign.
	But in person, I'm not really like that.
	In person, I'm very much like, okay, don't you have something else to go do?
	Because I do.
	And so he didn't have something else to go do.
	And I was kind of like, nah.
	And then he was like, no.
	And I was like, nah.
	And he didn't really like that because he actually is like that wants to be that close and a little bit more, he wants to, yeah.
	Days in a row at the beginning.
	It was, it was a lot.
	It really was a lot.
	And like spending Thanksgiving with his family, but his family was really sweet.
	And like, yeah, there was just, it was.
	Oh, you had to meet the parents.
	That should be like three years in.
	Meeting the parents.
	I don't want to meet your parents until we have kids.
	We can have kids.
	Then I can meet your parents.
	That needs to be delayed as long as possible.
	I had kids a few months in.
	Good for you.
	My kind of girl.
	But look, that's okay, but it seems like you were the one who needed a bit of space.
	And then this was just overwhelming.
	The 11 days.
	I mean, but you guys were having fun.
	Like, I mean, hooking up, I'm assuming.
	Yeah, we did have sex twice.
	Only twice.
	Oh, my.
	Only twice?
	Yeah.
	In 11 days?
	Yeah, only twice.
	Like, you weren't feeling it.
	He wasn't.
	What was going on?
	More me, more I wasn't feeling it.
	What's the breakdown?
	The breakdown is.
	Day one, sex?
	We did.
	We did, which I think was a bad idea.
	Looking back.
	That's totally fine.
	I'm fine with that.
	Well, no, I think it was a bad idea for our dynamic because what we should have done is have more conversation because I think you guys hung out for 11 days.
	I know, I know.
	But day one, we should have had more conversation because what ended up happening is day like two and a half, like two and a half days in, we like could not have a conversation in person.
	And we were driving, I needed more skincare products and we found a place that was carrying it.
	So he was driving me to the med spa where they had my skincare.
	And I just started breaking down crying.
	And I was like, what the fuck is going on?
	Like, what is going on here?
	We're not having a conversation.
	Like, I feel like I've been here for, you know, two and a half days already.
	And like, we're not really connecting.
	And like, I don't, like, we're sitting at coffee and it's just kind of like, tee hee ha, like, we can talk work.
	But like getting into the personal nitty-gritty just wasn't happening.
	It was really weird.
	Maybe your expectations were too high because of all the communicating and all the kind of obsession beforehand.
	That's exactly what happened.
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	So, okay, when it happens on day one, don't you feel like it's not going to be real after that?
	Fake news.
	What do you mean?
	The sex.
	If you hook up to it.
	If sex happens on the first day, like that's a bad sign.
	I think that's a bad sign.
	I don't necessarily think so because we knew each other for so long and we'd been talking for about a month by the time I got there.
	And I think if you're two consenting adults and you're decently stable in the head, you understand that, okay, you can do that.
	And it doesn't mean that there's going to be any repercussions.
	As whenever I was dating and I was younger, then like sex off the bat, yes, or like first night, first day that I meet you, like, yeah, I don't think that's necessarily going to go anywhere, but that's not always the case.
	My friends Savannah and Dylan, shout out you guys.
	Love y'all.
	They pretty much did that and they've been together two and a half years and they're about to buy a house together.
	So okay, first day you guys hook up and then when was you said it happened twice.
	When was the second time?
	I think maybe four or five days after that, we did again.
	You spent 11 days together?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I feel like you got to, that.
	Okay, but so the second day, y'all were driving in the car and it was silent.
	There was silence and you didn't like it.
	Well, I think that's fine.
	That's fine.
	I'm focused on the road.
	Let me tell you.
	It wasn't that.
	It wasn't that we were silent while driving.
	It was that at dinner while we were hanging out in the apartment while we were driving, while we were sitting and having coffee, all of these things, like the conversation just was not flowing naturally.
	And that tells me that something's off.
	Or also what I broke down is he was extremely nervous.
	I'm not a nervous person.
	And so I think that that kind of that personality difference wasn't meshing very well.
	And I was like, what's the problem here?
	Like, let's just have a conversation.
	Like, what it was just weird.
	It was like we were sitting there and the silence was awkward.
	It was not comfortable.
	But did he, did he agree with your assessment?
	Like when you brought up, hey, there's a problem.
	Did was he like, oh, no, I think everything's fine?
	No, he agreed.
	Oh, he agreed.
	We were on the same page.
	We were on the same page.
	And that was the second day you guys had that convo?
	Two and a half days ago.
	You guys got to cut your losses.
	Then you proceeded to hang out for another nine days.
	You got to come back.
	It was already booked.
	The hotel was already booked.
	The apartment or the Airbnb or whatever.
	It was Palms in Vegas.
	So it's like the hotel Airbnb apartment thing.
	Wait, you booked 11 days?
	Yeah.
	I think that's an impulsive move.
	Impulsive.
	Yeah.
	I think the, you know, 48 hours.
	The first, like, maybe, you know, there was some distance, right, between you two?
	During the 11 days?
	Well, like, you guys didn't live in the same city, right?
	No, there was a lot of, yeah.
	So I was living in Texas, and then my tour from Texas to LA, because I drove, was a month, nearly a month long.
	Okay.
	So I stopped in other major cities and booked work with clients and stuff for like the last time that I was going to be there for a while and then drove to yeah, I think you got it for that first one.
	That first one, like if you guys are in different cities, 11 days, that's a that's a commit.
	That's a lot.
	I think 48 hours is good for a first time.
	That's what we were planning to begin with.
	Second time, 72.
	And then if it's really good, then maybe you can go for a week.
	11 days on the first go, though?
	Hey, too much.
	It wasn't the initial plan, but it's what happened.
	And I think in the end, it was good because we realized that after 11 days, we still were like not really clicking the way that we should have been.
	So we were able to kind of end it after that.
	I did go on, a client flew me to Vegas for work for booking.
	And we went on one more date, a second date, a regular date.
	I told him regular date this time, just like go out to dinner like normal people.
	And he agreed.
	And he took me to a really nice spot and we had a delicious dinner.
	And then still it was kind of the same.
	So we decided that we're just not going to go on another day.
	This was a separate trip after the 11 days in a row.
	Was there no chemistry in the bedroom also?
	Not really.
	I have a question, actually.
	Was he more talkative like the first day before you had sex or was it just silent as well?
	He was more talkative in general over the phone.
	Oh.
	And in person, he was a lot more quiet.
	Some people are like, yeah.
	Okay.
	So relationship status.
	Single.
	Longest relationship?
	Oh, I think it was like a year and a half coming on two years.
	Year and a half.
	How long have you been single for?
	Um, we broke up of June 2024.
	You're a year and a half ago, then?
	Yeah.
	I've had like talking stages since then, but they've all failed.
	They've all failed.
	Is there currently a talking stage situationship, anything in the picture?
	I hope.
	When's the most recent there's been anything in the picture?
	Like a week ago it ended.
	How long were you seeing that guy?
	So we were talking, we were just like texting back and forth for a couple weeks.
	And then I actually saw him in Utah and he decided that I wasn't what he wanted because I wasn't a member of the LDS church.
	Okay, you're a Mormon, although you don't like that term anymore.
	Is that correct?
	I'm sorry.
	Mormon.
	It doesn't matter.
	I heard they don't like the Mormon term anymore.
	They prefer Latter-day Latter-day Saints.
	Okay.
	So you're a member of the church?
	Not currently, no.
	Oh, you got excommunicated?
	No, no, I've never joined.
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm just Christian.
	Wait, am I misunderstanding here?
	He didn't want to date me because I wasn't an active member of the church.
	I'm sorry.
	I misunderstood.
	I thought you were the.
	Okay, I apologize.
	That's what he said.
	Actually, he texted me.
	He didn't want to date you.
	He was Mormon.
	Yeah.
	And he didn't want to date you because you were Mormon.
	Okay, I understand.
	Well, I don't think it was that reason.
	I don't think he was completely honest with me, maybe, because he first started with, I just don't miss you.
	And so maybe he just had you guys hooked up?
	No.
	Nothing?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	But that's the most recent thing, anyways.
	This Mormon dude.
	All right.
	You said you were in a two-year relationship.
	You're a Christian, though, right?
	Yes.
	What denomination?
	Non-denominational.
	Non-denominational.
	Okay.
	How does your Christianity inform your relationship pursuits?
	In every aspect possible.
	Are you waiting until marriage?
	Yes.
	Are you a virgin?
	I don't want to talk about your body on a podcast.
	You don't.
	Well, it's not about your body necessarily.
	It would be past behavior.
	But I'll take that as a no then.
	Okay, that's.
	You are waiting until marriage, though?
	Yes.
	How long have you been waiting until marriage for or for?
	This isn't.
	I'm sorry, but this is not something that.
	Yeah, this is just one circumstance that I don't want to talk about.
	Because as a godly woman, I don't think that talking about my body like that on a podcast is glorifying God anyway.
	Well, it would be the truth, right?
	Isn't speaking the truth glorifying God?
	Yeah, in an aspect, but when it comes to, I mean, we in the Bible, it talks about how our bodies are temples.
	And so you shouldn't be like, I just shouldn't be talking about that for hundreds of thousands of people to hear.
	Well, I don't think that there would be any actual Chris.
	I understand.
	Like, by the way, you don't have to share if you don't want to.
	But I don't think there's anything biblically speaking that would preclude or prevent a Christian woman from aside from her own preference, of course, which is valid.
	But there's no Christian component to not sharing that.
	Just want to be clear on that.
	I think it's completely inappropriate and unclassy for a woman to talk about their people, like people they've had sex with, if they're a virgin or not.
	I don't think it matters.
	Think it's super inappropriate.
	How do you feel about being here?
	How do I feel about being here?
	Yeah.
	In what way?
	I mean, like, what's your point?
	Like, from what you stated, because that's like, I mean, we speak a lot about that.
	I just like, I think it's like, did you know what you were going going into signing up for this?
	Yeah, it doesn't make me uncomfortable with you guys talking about it anyway.
	Cool.
	If that's what you mean, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, obviously, you, if you don't have, by the way, you don't have to like speak about specific sex acts.
	But I don't think, for example, even on a podcast, even in public, a Christian woman saying whether or not she's a virgin and leaving at that, I don't need to know sexual graphic details, but just simply stating whether you're a virgin or not.
	I don't think that this would be in any sort at all in contravention of Christian ethics or Christian morality.
	But do you think it is?
	I do, yeah, because I think that when it comes to your body talking about if you're a virgin or not, or if you're waiting for marriage or not, I think that's completely between you and God and your husband or wife, not between you and everybody else on this planet.
	Okay.
	So is this something you would discuss with a boyfriend then who might be asking these questions from you?
	Yes, but not hundreds of thousands of people.
	Well, not even a boyfriend.
	Would you, let's say you were going to go on a date with a guy?
	Would you tell him if he asked?
	I mean, if it's a pressing matter, then yes, but I wouldn't say that I'm going on dates with men that are asking me those questions.
	Hold on.
	You're waiting until marriage.
	Wouldn't it be perfectly within, from your own worldview and your own Christian belief set for a Christian man to desire to date a virgin woman?
	What would actually be wrong from your perspective then for a Christian man to ask a Christian woman whether or not she's a virgin if that's a metric that he cares about for religious reasons?
	I don't think it's wrong at all.
	That's not what I meant by that.
	Well, but you seem to have some sort of objection to a Christian man asking a Christian woman.
	And I think it's a completely valid, if you're a Christian man, or even a Christian, a Christian woman could have the same standard as a Christian woman.
	You only want to date a man who's a virgin, who's who's chaste, whatever.
	Nothing wrong with asking that question, but you seem to object to it.
	So you would willingly withhold that information from a guy, a Christian man who wants to date you?
	No, I just said no, I wouldn't.
	If they asked me the question, then I would respond.
	First date?
	I mean, sure, if they asked on the first date, I've just never had that happen to me before, so I'm not.
	It didn't happen with the one that ended a week ago, the Mormon guy he never asked.
	No, he never asked.
	I think if you were a virgin, it would be different because I feel like you would want to go, just from my perspective, I think you would want to push that, oh, you should wait till marriage.
	And this is, you can still be Christian and wait till marriage.
	You don't have to have sex.
	It's kind of giving that you aren't a virgin.
	So I feel like you kind of said your answer in that.
	She, yeah.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	I don't know.
	Could just be a situation thing, like depending the environment that she's in, is whether or not she wants to divulge such information.
	Yeah, I think we understand that she doesn't want to share it publicly.
	That's totally fine.
	I don't have an issue with her preference not wanting to share.
	I think my angle of conversation here is more so.
	There's not actually anything in scripture, biblically, or within Christian ethics or virtue or whatever that would prevent, It might be your preference, but there's nothing that actually would prevent a Christian woman coming onto a public platform and saying, I'm a virgin.
	I'm not a virgin.
	I don't think that that's like you mentioned your body's a temple or whatever.
	I'm not sure specifically what you're referencing there, but there wouldn't be a contradiction.
	Like, you wouldn't be more or less of a Christian if you revealed your status as a virgin or not.
	Correct me if I'm wrong, Brian, but I think what you're trying to say is that there's nothing sinful about divulging that information.
	Correct.
	Essentially, yes.
	Do you think it's sinful to share that?
	I mean, you don't, yeah.
	I wouldn't say necessarily sinful.
	Like I said, I just think it's extremely inappropriate and very unclassy for a woman to talk about such vulgar things.
	So like shameful.
	So like you.
	Well, I don't think.
	I wouldn't say shame either because that's the same thing as basically.
	Not so much.
	I don't think it's.
	It's like asking your weight.
	It's an inappropriate thing.
	It's not sinful, but it's like an uncomfortable question.
	No, it's very different than weight.
	I just feel like as a woman that's very Christian and like I hold that godly woman over my head, like that title.
	I shouldn't be talking about my body in that way for people to like then you're disrespecting your body or yourself by discussing.
	It's just a matter of comfort and how you, how confident you are in yourself.
	I'm not saying what you're how you're feeling about this is wrong, but it's like everyone who spoke prior to you, we have no shame, but that's because we're comfortable speaking about it.
	It doesn't mean it's sinful or anything like that.
	Well, there's a difference.
	The term you used vulgar, I think if you were speaking about like specific sex acts or like oral sex or what you did, if like whatever her fucking opening line to the her now husband with three kids or whatever.
	Not husband, boyfriend.
	Boyfriend.
	That a bit vulgar, but I think like a Christian woman who sat here and said, you know, I'm not a virgin, but I am waiting until marriage, I wouldn't put that, I wouldn't be like, whoa, that was really vulgar, what you just said.
	Now, I understand people can have their preference and be like, as a Christian, I'd rather not share certain details about my life.
	I think that that's okay.
	My primary back and forth with you is just, I guess I contend with your categorization of it being vulgar or something that is perhaps unbecoming of a Christian woman to say.
	I don't think it would be unbecoming of a Christian woman to simply say, and again, I'm totally fine with you not sharing it, but this is a bit of a separate side conversation.
	If a Christian woman came on the show and is like, you know, I am waiting for marriage, but I am not a virgin and left it at that, I don't know if I would be like, I can't imagine Christians are being up in arms about it or viewing that as a vulgar thing to say.
	I do.
	Is that fair?
	I have a question for you.
	Well, let's let her respond and then you can ask your question.
	No, I totally understand where you're coming from with that.
	It's just the way I think.
	I mean, I think of it as like, if my grandma is watching this, she's like a saint.
	She's very extremely Christian, very classy.
	Like, these are things that I wouldn't even talk about my family with.
	Sure.
	And then you said you're non-denominational.
	Is it do you go to church?
	I do.
	Is the church non-denominational that you go to?
	It's kind of complicated.
	I haven't really talked about this with my family yet, but this morning I went to the LDS church.
	Wait, but it's Sunday.
	Okay, so The guy you were seeing a week ago or whatever, he didn't want to be with you because you weren't LDS.
	Right.
	But you are actively going to an LDS church.
	Right.
	I didn't disclose that information to him because I didn't want him to think that I was converting for him, if that makes sense.
	You were already considering.
	Yeah, beforehand.
	Okay, but so prior to starting to go to an LDS church, were you going to a non-denominational church?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, but you, so you are converting to LDS.
	Do I have that correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	One quick question.
	Can women be priests or pastors?
	Absolutely not.
	Okay.
	You had a question for her?
	Honestly, you partially kind of answered my question, but I wanted to ask you if you, like, how much do you care about other people's opinions?
	Like, you said you don't feel comfortable because a lot of people are watching.
	Like, how do you think you care a lot about people's opinion, like outsiders, like people you don't know?
	I wouldn't say I care about what other people think of me.
	I more care about how I hold myself and how I care of myself.
	Relationship status?
	I'm in a relationship about a year and a half now.
	Longest relationship?
	About two years.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm married, been married for over four years, a little bit over.
	Any kids?
	No.
	Do you plan to have kids?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's everybody's relationship status.
	We have one chat here I'm going to let come through.
	Then I have a few follow-up questions.
	Then we are going to get into some segments.
	All right.
	We have Chaw.
	I'm going to have.
	Can I have you read these?
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	It's going to get juicy.
	Chaw XD donated $100.
	This, Brian, is what we call a chronic manipulator.
	She's saying all these things manipulators say for anyone who thinks deportations are about race.
	This is proof it's not.
	Deport her.
	So this came in while you were speaking, chair two.
	So that's, do you want to respond to Chaw?
	Can I?
	I did not focus on that.
	Oh my God.
	All right.
	I wasn't focusing.
	He's saying you didn't get deported.
	He called you a chronic manipulator, and he thinks you should be deported.
	That's so fun.
	Cha, do you want to?
	Why?
	Why do you want her deported?
	Do you want to provide clarification on why?
	Is it about the manipulation or whatever?
	But do you want to respond to the manipulation allegations?
	I already have allegations on me, okay?
	Oh, shit.
	Crazy.
	Do you want to respond?
	Okay, hold on.
	How do I...
	Let's see.
	Can I read the mask chicken?
	I'm just doubtful.
	I have to like actually deeply.
	That's a yellow card for you.
	Fucking yellow carded.
	She read it, and then I pulled it up a second time.
	You got to be paying.
	And you said I wasn't paying attention.
	Okay.
	How were you not deporting?
	Holy shit.
	Let me just confirm this with myself.
	He wants me to be deported because I manipulate guys.
	That seems to be the case.
	Okay.
	Well, okay.
	Fun.
	So honestly, okay, how I would respond to that.
	I don't think that's appropriate.
	Like, how do you have any control over my life?
	Like, I don't.
	And the sense that I'm controlling people also is not true.
	Like, manipulation is all a mind game.
	Like, everything's in your brain.
	You can control your own brain.
	You cannot hang out with me if you want not.
	You call two guys your like, you said that you're a girlfriend to two guys.
	He said, You call yourself a girlfriend to two of these three guys, I think.
	I don't think that's grounds for trend or for deportation.
	No, no, no, no, not for deportation.
	This is just talking about your manipulation tactics that are affecting other people.
	Do any of these guys who you're seeing, do they pay your bills?
	No.
	Oh.
	Do they give you gifts?
	No.
	Do they send you money?
	No.
	I don't trust people.
	Like, seriously, okay, my best friend.
	What does trusting people have to do with that?
	I think it's past experience.
	Like, I don't trust people because past experience.
	Okay.
	Can you elaborate on that?
	You've said that like 50 times.
	What don't you trust other people when you're the one that's manipulating other men?
	And you're the one that's lying and you're the one that's cheating and you're the one that's being deceptive.
	Causing the crust issues for other people.
	Maybe if I kind of like dig deep in like my own psychological issues, I don't know.
	Maybe it's me being like cheated on before when I was younger that made me kind of like a shitty person.
	I'm not a shitty person, though.
	Was it Vlad?
	No.
	Because you were living in Russia until you were 15.
	So back in 15 high school in Russia or whatever.
	Frickin' Vlad.
	Or, I don't know.
	I don't think it's Vietnam.
	Vitaly.
	Or Vitaly.
	Or Pietor.
	Peter.
	No.
	How do you say Peter in Russian?
	Oh, yeah, you're also.
	Is she?
	She speaks Russian, right?
	Yeah, cool.
	All right, so you got cheated on, and then.
	So you're going to take it down to other guys?
	What happened to you in the past?
	Instead of working on yourself?
	Okay.
	I'm trying, okay?
	All right.
	But yeah, that's still not a point to depart me.
	Uh-uh.
	You're not doing that.
	You're a singer.
	Can you, for 15 seconds, can we hear you sing something?
	Yeah, I can sing one of my new singles.
	Honestly.
	Yeah, I have Spotify, Apple Music, etc.
	My artist name is me.
	It's just me.
	I can sing Call Me Please.
	It's one of my new songs.
	All right.
	Y'all ready?
	Oh, yeah.
	Call me please.
	I need to speak right now.
	Don't wanna show me love.
	Just gotta be around.
	No, no, no.
	Call me please.
	No, Don't have to show me love, baby.
	Just be around.
	All right, there it is.
	There is the singing.
	Thank you very much for that.
	Appreciate it.
	Really quick, just because we have one person from outside the United States.
	Anybody here born outside the United States?
	Philippines.
	Israel.
	Israel.
	Russia.
	And anybody, how about your parents?
	Were they born outside the United States?
	No.
	Any like nationality?
	Like, are you Puerto Rican or something?
	I'm Italian.
	Italian.
	All right.
	Oh, no, shit.
	It's, you know, with the Italian, sometimes you can't always tell.
	All right.
	So, okay, I have a question for the for, okay, we got Russia, we got Israel, and we got the Philippines.
	All right.
	Imagine a completely neutral hypothetical situation where neither the United States or the country of your origin is the aggressor.
	Neither has done anything unethical.
	There's no moral dimension, just a conflict that exists.
	In that value-neutral scenario, to which country is your allegiance?
	So starting with you, the United States or Russia?
	Unfortunately, the United States.
	Fortunately or unfortunately?
	Well, probably unfortunately.
	Why is that unfortunate?
	Because that makes me kind of like fake because I was brought up in the UK.
	That's not citizenship.
	How does that make you fake?
	Because I was born in Russia.
	But you have citizenship in the United States of America as well.
	Yeah.
	So how does that make you fake?
	I feel fake because I was brought up in Russia, but I would pick United States over Russia.
	Do you have, well, you do have citizenship here.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Israel or the United States?
	Israel.
	I have dual citizenship.
	Why are you here?
	You were born there?
	I was born there.
	And then when did you move to the United States?
	When I was a baby.
	How old are you?
	So wait, wait, hold on.
	Hold on.
	You are how old?
	I'm 28.
	28.
	Of your 28 years, how much of that time has been spent in the United States?
	Majority of it.
	How much?
	26 and a half, I'd say.
	Like living here, yeah.
	And just so can you explain why you pick Israel over the United States?
	My family's there.
	I spent a lot of my childhood there.
	I'm very no, you spent most of your childhood here.
	I spent summers in Israel.
	I live in the U.S. after I moved from Israel, but I visited and I would go there for long periods of time.
	So childhood spent.
	Like, where did you spend your childhood?
	You know, like summer camp, you go visit your grandparents in another state.
	Like, I would go visit my family.
	Well, the summer is one season, that's a couple months.
	Right.
	It sounds like you said 26 and a half of your 28 years you spent living in the United States.
	So most of your physical address was well, not just your physical address, your where you were actively living.
	So I don't understand this physical address component of the conversation.
	I'm not understanding your question either.
	Sorry.
	But why are you saying you're you also living in the United States while having a physical address in the United States?
	Yes.
	So I don't understand why you would say physical address.
	Well, because I live in the U.S. After we moved here, we've lived here.
	Yeah.
	And then during the summers, my parents would send us to live with my grandparents and be there for like a month, two months at a time.
	If your allegiance is to Israel, why don't you live there?
	Why do you live here?
	Work.
	So you want to reap the benefits of the United States, but you won't back them in the case of Israel.
	I never said that.
	You did.
	You said that Israel is where allegiance was.
	Even if you didn't say that, you are currently reaping the benefits of being in America.
	Like the clothes you're wearing, the place you're living, it's all because America's provided this for you and you're still going to say Israel.
	Wait, hold on.
	Just to be charitable.
	I'm confused here.
	People in Israel also have clothes.
	No, but the things that you have here, like you're living your life here, everything that you're doing here is like, or getting here is because of America.
	But America's given you so much, basically, if I'm saying, and you're still going to choose Israel.
	Yes.
	Can you not work in Israel?
	I would need to.
	I think I can.
	I have dual citizenship, so I can if I want to.
	You were born there.
	And why don't you go work there?
	Wait, were you born there?
	Because I'm choosing not to.
	Were you born there?
	You're choosing not to because they know that your life is in the first place there.
	Were you born here or there?
	I was born in Israel in Netanyahu.
	Okay, you were born there.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	That's interesting.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean.
	I think it's just I'm not ashamed of where I'm from and what my background is.
	And I appreciate what the U.S. has done for my family.
	There was a choice with moving here.
	And I'm not, what's the word, ignoring the opportunities that my family was provided coming here.
	But I am choosing right now to stay in the U.S. for work.
	And I know that the, let's say, film and TV in Israel, they've got some pretty good shows.
	So if I wanted to, I could in theory, but I'm choosing to stay here right now.
	Because you make more money and you have maybe better work schedule, you have better work opportunities?
	I'm not sure necessarily.
	I'm a freelancer in film and TV, and right now work in the U.S. is actually really bad.
	A lot of productions are moving out of the country too, because it costs less crew, permits, all that.
	So it's just, honestly, it's a whole lot of figuring out whether or not I'm going to try to continue making a career here or go elsewhere where productions are going.
	So what's the problem with living in Israel?
	There's no problem, I'm just...
	Then why don't you live there?
	Similar to why you chose to go to the LDS church.
	It's a choice.
	Okay.
	I mean, sure, yeah, but you weren't born here.
	And if you're going to side with Israel in conflict with America, then why would you live in America?
	He just said there's no conflict.
	Okay, wait, wait, there's clearly conflict with Israel right now.
	In his question, there was no conflict, though.
	No, I said a conflict exists.
	But there's not an aggressor necessarily.
	One side isn't necessarily being a bully.
	It's a morally neutral hypothetical situation.
	So it'd be very, like, for example, even a U.S. citizen, let's say we were just like, you know what?
	We kind of just want Cancun, and we're going to invade the entirety of Mexico so we can take all their resources.
	I think U.S. citizens could come to some like reasonable objection to be like, hey, we're the aggressors here.
	This is a war of, you know, this is a war of, what's the right word?
	Ah, it's blanking on me.
	Like conquest, but there's another thing when you're just after the spoils of war, basically.
	So I think, but in a situation where we just make it completely neutral, that can take away some of the objections a citizen might otherwise have.
	Also, just to be clear, I think when it comes to, in terms of your political allegiance or loyalty, this doesn't mean that you can't still have, you know, family ties.
	You couldn't still, you know, care about the culture of the other country or whatever.
	But it is kind of interesting when citizens of the United States who have lived here for most of their life have an allegiance that supersedes their allegiance to the United States.
	I think you can have a dual allegiance in the sense that removing a conflict between the United States and Israel, let's say Israel had a conflict with, I don't know, Egypt or something.
	I don't know, whatever.
	You could be like, well, in this case, I definitely side with Israel over, you know, Egypt, of course.
	I think my answer was primarily just that I am proud of where I'm from and I don't hide it.
	Are you proud of being also an American though?
	I mean, there sounds like a no.
	It's a hard question because, and I've had this discussion many times.
	We moved here, but I wasn't necessarily raised in an American way.
	My education is American.
	I speak English, but at home, it's not necessarily like I still kind of grew up with a background, like a Russian, a Russian and Jewish background.
	All right, hold on.
	Can I ask you something?
	So you said, I mean, you said it like twice, I think, or three times.
	You said you're not ashamed of where you're from.
	So by a person not choosing the country of her, his origin over the country they're living in, is that you consider that being ashamed?
	No, no, not at all.
	Like, when you said you picked the U.S., unfortunately, I don't think that's an unfortunate decision, you know.
	But I think...
	Okay.
	Daria Sundays Cormann donated $200.
	Questions to Chair One.
	One.
	How is it your parents love him if they know he cheats on you?
	Two, is he around?
	I.e. present father?
	If so, in what capacity?
	Three, are you ethnically bunnies?
	Chair four, go home.
	It meant bunnies should be Jewish.
	I don't know why Streamlabs does that, but.
	No, I am not ethnically Jewish.
	just have a big nose like one um what oh boy You do not have a big nose.
	It's like the same shape.
	All right, continue on with your answer, please.
	I forgot what the beginning of the question said.
	Oh, how do they love him?
	They have spent multiple years getting to know him and understanding that just because somebody makes horrible, horrible decisions doesn't mean that they are concrete, a terrible person for the rest of their life and people can grow and change.
	And they've seen me grow and change and I've also cheated on him, admitted it was wrong, and then worked towards why I did it and not ever doing it again.
	So how many times that happened?
	Which one?
	Trusting a person after they did a mistake is super.
	Super Mary.
	The first time he cheated, I got over it.
	And the first couple times he cheated, I stayed.
	I haven't trusted him since the beginning, so I don't, I don't know.
	I think the other part of that question was asking about your dad.
	Like, is he present in your life?
	Was he a good influence?
	Oh, I think it was about my dad or about my boyfriend as a father.
	I think it was about the baby.
	I think I asked if he was present.
	Maybe both.
	During the one year, it was more of visits and phone calls because he didn't live with me when we were separated.
	But now he's fully present.
	We live together.
	It's pretty much back to normal.
	Going to you, you're from the Philippines, born in the Philippines.
	That's right.
	Did you immigrate here?
	Yeah, when I was eight years old.
	Okay, do you have citizenship?
	In America, not in Philippines anymore.
	Okay, but you went through like a naturalization process?
	Okay.
	Where do your loyalties lie?
	America all the way.
	All right, there you have it, folks.
	There you have it.
	I also actually happen to not have been born in the United States.
	I was born in Europe.
	I was born in France.
	And then my mom, although I do have dual citizenship because my mom's American, so it's not like I'm an immigrant or whatever.
	I moved to the United States when I was five.
	And although it would pain me dearly if the United States and France were to, even though they're allies, I mean, hypothetically, if they were to enter into some military conflict, my loyalties, even though I lived there for the first five years of my life, basically consecutively, my loyalties undeniably are to America first.
	And of course, I wouldn't want there to be a conflict between France.
	I have family in France.
	I care about them very much.
	I have some cultural roots in France, and I wish good things for France.
	There's some pretty bad things happening in France related to politics and basically the country is being taken over.
	And I would wish to see a return to a better state of affairs in France.
	But in any case, my primary loyalty, my first loyalty is to the United States.
	I have a question.
	How much of your upbringing was of French?
	French was my first language.
	I certainly lived there for longer and for most of my childhood, as you would say, longer than you spent in your country of origin.
	I'm just curious.
	My dad's French.
	My dad's French.
	I have dual citizenship.
	My dad, he started speaking French a bit more, but he would still speak French at home sometimes.
	And I've visited France since.
	But yeah, I mean.
	This is merely like for anybody who's not from here, how much of curiosity, how much of their upbringing has been U.S.-based, American versus where they're from.
	I think that's what's cool about America is that you can embrace like where your family actually came from, but you should still kind of back the country that you live in.
	You know, because you get to reap the rewards of practicing your religion and embracing you came from Israel.
	That's fantastic.
	You know, you guys got to come here and feel that, but, you know, you live here.
	I have a question.
	If a war were to start, would you go back to Israel?
	Well.
	It's been considered.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So are you only like the only thing you like about America is the workforce, basically?
	No, there's many things I like about the U.S.
	I just the question was to pick one or the other and I can't say I'm happy to live here and I'm happy to be where I'm from and I'm just there's no disrespect towards what I was able to achieve and and use here.
	Okay, what do you not like about America?
	Do I not?
	I never said I didn't like the U.S.
	I mean maybe like something specific or small.
	I think well I mean again to be charitable to her I don't think you have to dislike America.
	I don't think her position necessarily entails that she dislikes.
	Well, I mean, I think even like warm-blooded patriot American patriots can be like, I dislike XYZ about America.
	You know, it's interesting, actually, just to bring it back to the point of this podcast, which is dating.
	What was interesting to me, I've seen this in experience with when it comes to dating or going out on dates with guys, is that what I've noticed is American guys aren't too, they don't really feel comfortable about talking about their feelings and they like to beat around the bush.
	And me with like being what my parents are from Russia, being with a Russian background, being very blunt and just getting to the point of what's on your mind, I think it's been interesting to kind of figure out a dynamic of understanding how one person is comfortable speaking about what's on their mind versus not, which is what was a problem with my ex as well.
	It's the other way around.
	I'm a very blunt person.
	That's how I picture it.
	All right.
	Well, moving off of that topic.
	But yeah, I guess finally, I don't know if I already mentioned this, but I think you can having a primary, having allegiance to the United States isn't a rejection of like a past origin or a path, like you're another culture.
	Like, for example, if you, if you came here and you're Mexican and you're legal, you're a legal immigrant, I think your allegiance should be to the United States, just as an example, using Mexico.
	But that doesn't mean you have to reject your heritage.
	You have to reject your culture.
	I do think you should assimilate, but you can still have family.
	You can go back and visit.
	It's not like you have to be like a belligerent or aggressive towards your past nation or culture, but I do think that there should be a primary allegiance that does exist.
	But anyways, moving it on to, okay.
	I think I had a question for you.
	Something about all these guys you're dating.
	I don't know.
	You know what?
	We're going to do something a little different here.
	So oftentimes I ask people to what disagreements they have with me.
	But actually, I just want to show you.
	Show the prompt list, but show the graphic image.
	And I'm going to redo this.
	I had ChatGPT generate it, but it went to, it kind of is shitty.
	I need to redo it.
	I did it like last minute last night.
	So I just have a notepad that we're going to do.
	I'm going to show you guys a list of all my positions.
	Show the infographic first.
	Just, I don't know, for fuck it, whatever.
	So I don't know.
	Chat GPT generated this.
	So you can take a quick gander, scroll all the way down.
	Why not?
	Chat GPT fucked it up, though.
	They totally fucked it up.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Chat GPT did this.
	Now just show us the list.
	Show us the list.
	All right.
	And as I read these, I want you guys to tell me if there's anything here you disagree with.
	So one, body count matters.
	Two, these are my positions.
	Past matters.
	Three, women cannot be in cell, involuntarily celibate.
	So maybe really quick, just on three.
	I don't think women can be fem cells.
	I don't think women can be involuntarily celibate.
	Any objections from anybody?
	You object?
	Okay.
	Why is that?
	Well, I mean, I've met women that just like they're ugly.
	Okay, no, stereotypically, like homeschooled children and that are that don't have any social skills, don't get out, their parents don't teach you about those sort of stuff.
	Like, I feel like they're involuntarily celibate, if that makes sense.
	Women or men?
	I mean, both.
	It goes both ways.
	I do agree that it's like primarily men, but there are definitely women that I have met that have zero idea about like sex or any of that.
	Involuntarily celibate is not having sex, but not by the way.
	So, involuntarily, so that would essentially mean despite reasonable efforts to try to get sex, you just here's how I would put it: access denied.
	That's what I would consider being involuntarily celibate.
	Like, if you're a recluse and you don't go out and you're not, I mean, with technology, now you're a man, you can stay inside 24 hours a day, get on the dating app, you can still make an effort to get laid.
	But of course, if you're not actually making some degree of effort to get laid, I still wouldn't, I wouldn't even categorize a man as an incel under those circumstances.
	You need to have taken some reasonable steps and attempts to get laid and been rejected before you could fairly be categorized as involuntarily celibate.
	Because there would have been no actual means with which you could have gotten laid.
	In this case, just because two things on this: so, a woman who is like socially retarded or whatever.
	I also, first off, I think even in that circumstance, I would do a comparison.
	Men who are socially retarded are really, really off-putting to women.
	Women who are socially retarded might be off-putting to men, but a lot of them are going to be like, oh, she's just kind of quirky or whatever.
	And men will still have sex with them.
	So, this idea that women who are like socially retarded or whatever, I kind of reject that.
	I think also women are going to have massive hesitations just even being in the presence of somebody who's so like a male who's socially awkward, because then you're going to like, it's going to trigger your safety thing.
	Whereas while men can be in danger by being in the presence of like fucking unhinged women or whatever, typically in terms of social awkwardness, men have, while women can definitely be violent and can definitely be abusive and can definitely kill men, I think it's fair to say men are less concerned with that component.
	So, also, I think when women are like autistic or whatever, men are way more forgiving of like social, I mean, I'll do it, social retardation basically than like women are really like if you're a neurotypical woman and you're dealing like yo, you're not dealing with like a guy who's fucking autistic,
	but a dude will definitely fuck an autistic chick for sure for sure anything.
	This is true, there's porn for heads.
	This is true, like it's really off-putting as a woman.
	Like, if a guy's socially dumb as fuck, like, yeah, you emotionally awkward is yeah, women won't deal with that, generally speaking.
	Yeah, but do you have more?
	No, I agree.
	I wasn't aware of the like access denied part of it.
	Yeah, like we're trying to do it.
	Yeah, I mean, my view, I guess my view is access denied is different than uh, well, wait, what is it?
	Um, shit, I'm trying to remember what the uh I think even if you're not taught about sex, like our natural biological being will tell us to have sex.
	The urges are still there and we still understand that this goes in here and something happens.
	Well, what if you're like, what if you're like 14, 15, you're a virgin, and you get into like this car accident, and you like lose the ability of your legs, you become brain damaged.
	That's like involuntarily like, but this is like a, that's like a 0.3% rarity.
	I will actually engage with you on this.
	So I think, hold on, I'm just looking up something really quick.
	How did you come up with that?
	How did you come up with it?
	I can come up with a lot of things.
	I'm not going to ask.
	I don't know.
	Even if you're paralyzed from like the legs down, any girl, you just download in or swipe right through everything.
	There will be someone.
	I mean, yes, you can.
	So I'll answer your question.
	And the thing I was going to finish up on there, so denying access is different than access denied.
	So women will deny access.
	Like guys will be like, want some dick?
	Nah, I'm good.
	You're not a femme.
	But if you're a person and you're like trying to get laid and you're just not, then you can be involuntarily celibate.
	In your case, so a woman who is a quadriplegic even, because you said just lose their legs.
	I'm going to go all the way quadriplegic.
	Yes.
	Full disabled.
	Yeah, she can get laid.
	She can get laid.
	You know what?
	I kind of believe that.
	Okay, look, if she's like, let's say she's like average looking and she's a quadriplegic, she can go on Tinder, be like, I'm a quadriplegic.
	I'm in a wheelchair.
	She can get laid that night.
	Some guys will love that shit.
	Yeah, I know.
	She will.
	Aren't you in the OnlyFans industry?
	Yeah, no, I am.
	And I did, just thinking about it, now there is a girl who is a quadriplegic who does OnlyFans, I think.
	So great.
	Yeah, I know.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	It complicates.
	It complicates things, obviously, and it probably closes the door.
	It closes the door.
	But it opens a lot of new ones.
	That is true.
	There are going to be some guys who are actually into that.
	They're into, it's a little curious, I would say, but not to say that somebody who's disabled isn't deserving of love or even just sex or a relationship, but there could be, like a guy who has a king for that, there could be some, a little, I would be a little suspect by it, but not inherently.
	Like you could just be like, whatever, you know?
	I mean, to each their own.
	Yeah.
	You know, the movies where it's like the ugly girl can't get a guy no matter how much to how big of a crush she has on someone until she like gets a makeover and then she's no longer celibate basically.
	So that's like involuntary celibacy is going off of like could be based off of looks or well I mean that's how I think, so I mean, I would agree with you insofar as becoming more attractive physically, whether you're a man or a woman, is going to increase your sexual and romantic success and prospects.
	But I'm prepared to say that I think even really unattractive women, without even attempting to make efforts to improve their physical appearance, although it would be good for them, I'm very confident that, I mean, just to make it super easy, within like a month, they could get laid.
	I mean, it's probably like, I think a really unattractive woman could download Tinder or Hinge or, you know, go to a bar or club.
	That would maybe complicate, not complicate, but that could take a bit longer if she was trying to do it in person.
	But if she downloads a dating app, almost any woman, even if she's obscenely unattractive, within a couple days, I want to say, could get laid super easily.
	So I guess my thoughts are leaning more towards women can't necessarily be involuntarily celibate.
	I'm just still trying to understand that question of itself.
	Yeah, I think they can be voluntarily celibate.
	Yeah.
	Like they can be vol cells.
	So it's like you are waiting.
	I mean, basically, I think that there's confusion, but I think it's a woman is like not finding the caliber of guy that she would want to have sex with.
	But I think this idea that she couldn't find a guy of, I'm not even saying she has to like the woman has to go and find some like fucking who's that guy from the Disney movie with the hunchback?
	The hunchback.
	She doesn't have to date like a hunchback or something.
	I think almost any woman can find a man of, I mean, sometimes women have an overestimated sense of their own attractiveness.
	Any woman could find a guy who's pretty much her equivalent in terms of looks and have sex with him.
	Right.
	If that's, yeah, if she wanted to.
	So, or, I mean, but here's the thing, right?
	I think I wouldn't hold that standard even to an incel.
	Like, incels will even say, oh, you know, I'm, say, the incel's average looking.
	And he's like, I can't get with average women.
	I'd be like, well, you got to go one or two points down.
	They'll say, even if I go down, like, even if I try to date a girl who's like less attractive than I am, they still can't get it.
	So, yeah, women, I don't, I personally don't think.
	Now, is it logically possible that a woman could be involuntarily celibate?
	It's logically possible, but like, I can't imagine a scenario where she hops on it.
	Like, there would be geographic limitations.
	I don't know if she lived in, I don't know where she would have to live.
	I mean, maybe like Antarctica, and there's like 30 people there.
	And like, there's not, but if she moved to like a reasonably populated area, like, there's no woman, there's no woman in a major city or even a medium population city who could not get laid.
	That's my position.
	Any disagreements?
	What about, you know, incel men who like kind of like get escorts, which is, you know, common enough?
	Yeah, that wouldn't count.
	There would have to be the procurement of the sex cannot be financially a financial transaction.
	Because that would, I would agree with you that even a guy who's an incel, they could just get an escort.
	So then incelship doesn't exist.
	No, because while the sex has to be mutually desired.
	Mutually desired.
	The woman wants it because she's getting paid for it.
	She wants the money.
	She doesn't want the man.
	That's different.
	Yeah, the threshold has to be a non-financial transaction, essentially.
	But it removed the involuntary part of the incel word.
	It has to be renamed then because it's not involuntary.
	Well, it is.
	Well, hold on.
	Yeah, I mean, baked into the idea of the term involuntary, I think there's a understanding that we're not talking about prostitution because under that framework, of course, any man could get laid.
	We're talking about they can't find a girl who will voluntarily have sex with them.
	Let me ask it this way.
	Would these women who are prostitutes voluntarily have sex with them absent payment of money?
	No.
	Like, for example, I'm confident I could even present an offer to a woman who's not even a prostitute who wouldn't otherwise have sex with me.
	But if I offered her a billion dollars, there are women who aren't prostitutes who would definitely prostitute themselves for a billion dollars.
	So under this dynamic, yes, if the fight, well, in this case, prostitutes prostitute themselves for far less than that.
	Yes, if you introduce like this other incentive structure, but the incentive structure would be they have their own desire to have sex with you absent financial compensation.
	I guess this goes in favor with how you think of this question, women not being able, not being involuntarily celibate.
	That whenever I would read about a man being an incel, my thoughts is like, but isn't there someone for everybody?
	But then again, maybe my thoughts, my question of that is because I'm a woman who, like, but I've always wondered about that.
	I'm like, isn't there someone for everybody?
	I always wanted that.
	I guess the opinion differs.
	Yeah, that happens.
	No, regarding celibacy.
	No, I don't really believe in that.
	There's always, I think that's a woman thing.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, it's in favor of what you're saying, that woman can't be involuntarily celibate.
	My opinion is that there can be, that you can find someone who's interested in you.
	Do you get that?
	Yeah, I think it's...
	Yeah, I guess that's possible.
	But what, okay?
	I'm just saying I'm understanding your question a little bit better now.
	As perspective, a female perspective.
	Well, no, you were saying that there's somebody for everybody.
	In regards of interest, not necessarily like a forever partner.
	It's like the question, I never understood the incel part.
	So the involuntary is not something that I understand.
	What do you mean?
	It's not something you understand.
	Involuntary celibacy.
	I didn't really get that question because I guess I just never.
	I think it's like, so just hypothetically, if you go to a club with intent to find somebody to hook up with that night and you don't, that's involuntary.
	I think there, you know, like you tried and it didn't work.
	And if it continues to happen, then it's just not, you know, that's involuntary because you are attempting, but it's not happening.
	I think there would have to, yes, there'd have to be a bit of a pattern.
	Yeah.
	Like if a guy goes out to a club once and he doesn't get laid, I don't think he's involuntarily celibate.
	If he tried for like an extended period of time and he's been like, he's a virgin and he's whatever, then we can start making a determination as to their them being involuntarily celibate.
	But yeah.
	I mean, I think the easiest test would simply be, I mean, you could be super blunt about it.
	You could basically just have you go out, you go out into the street.
	I think a woman who had like a sign around her neck, like she doesn't even have to speak, just like a sign, a cardboard sign holding it.
	This would be super pathetic for a man or a woman to do.
	Hi, I'm making myself available for sex.
	I think if the I think almost any woman did that, it might be really awkward and uncomfortable, but she would get guys to come up to her.
	Obviously, the modern way to do this is just on the dating app, but basically, you don't have to do this really embarrassing public humiliation ritual, basically.
	But a woman, but even in public, a woman did that.
	There would definitely be guys.
	Look at, oh, like guys would actually do that.
	But if a guy had like a sign, like, no, girls are, girls are not going to go, unless he's like fucking some male model, super hot, dude.
	Maybe.
	But like, you have an average-looking girl do that versus an average-looking guy do that.
	It's going to be very different.
	Let's pull it back up, Mary.
	All right, here's more of my positions.
	I think men put in more effort when it comes to dating.
	Dating is harder for men.
	A woman's career, money.
	Somebody say something if you see something you or hear something you disagree with.
	I don't think body count matters.
	Don't think body count matters.
	Maybe we'll come to that a little bit later.
	Why don't we do what someone should be drafted?
	Yeah, women should be drafted.
	Scroll down, Mary.
	I would die.
	Women, yes, I think women should be drafted.
	I don't like feminism.
	I think women have equal rights to men, arguably more rights.
	I think women are more privileged in totality.
	Women are not oppressed in the USA.
	Men are more oppressed than women.
	People of color can be racist towards white people.
	Women can be sexist towards men.
	Men are physically stronger than women.
	Nothing.
	Men are the primary victims.
	The women should be drafted thing, I think.
	All right.
	I disagree with that too.
	I think that if you put me in the war, you don't want me fighting for your team.
	I'm going to run around and like, hey, girl, like, I'm not going to like shoot people.
	Yeah, I agree that men are better soldiers than women.
	I still think women should be drafted.
	When you say drafted, do you mean specifically like to go out on to battle?
	Or like there are different categories that you can be enlisted into, you know, like intelligence and things like that.
	Yeah, yeah, that's a fair question.
	I think bare minimum, you know, obviously in the military, there's not, you know, frontline, well, there's more than just frontline combat roles.
	There's support roles, there's cooks, there's people who do vehicle repair, there's people who are pencil pushers, who handle paperwork, who, you know, all kinds of different things.
	Basically, almost any job you see in the civilian world, you'll see in basically the military world to some degree.
	So bare minimum, yes, they should be, they can be drafted and they have to go to boot camp and all that.
	But in terms of their actual role in the military, they can have a support role.
	However, I would go beyond that and I'm fine with them being in combat.
	I think they're worse in combat, but I'm okay with it.
	So you want weaker people to be defending the country?
	For the sake of equality, well, obviously, look.
	But men and women aren't equal.
	We're not equal in that.
	Look, I'm saying this.
	I do think men are better soldiers.
	Men are better soldiers.
	Men are physically stronger.
	However, you know, look, the United States military is also very advanced.
	I think we probably could have had women do the Venezuela thing.
	Like, we probably could have let them do it.
	You know, like with our tech and shit, they probably could have been okay.
	Hold on.
	They wouldn't have done as good of a job, you know, but they could have done it.
	I want to mention that at the point where they got Maduro, he was at his safe door or whatever.
	It was big and metallic, and they had to pry it open while he was trying to close it.
	You think women could pry that metal door from Maduro?
	Well, I don't know the specifics of it, but I'm assuming they use tools, whether the women are strong enough to even use the tools or not.
	Exactly, they're not.
	Well, look, maybe the woman could have, maybe you send in two men to do the prying of the door, but the women could have probably done the Venezuela-Maduro thing.
	What I find interesting is there are women that do volunteer to do these things.
	And I actually disagree with you.
	I don't think women are all that weak.
	I think that we put ourselves in a box of being weak, but women are not weak.
	Women are weak.
	If they were put in the same standards of testing, fine, but also on a moral level, I don't think women should be put into battle.
	Women have to try way harder to be as strong as men.
	Mentally, physically, every aspect, women are weaker than men, and it's just a fact.
	but that's because we're mentally i think that's i don't think mental I don't think mentally, but physically, but mentally.
	Physically, yeah, biologically.
	Mentally, 100%.
	We are very emotional creatures compared to men, which is why we shouldn't be able to do that.
	They're not good with decision making because of their emotions.
	And we need men who are much more logical, straight thinkers to be in our wars and our battles.
	Even for paperwork, they're more meticulous with that in all the ways that, you know, war.
	I think it just depends on your mindset.
	If you have a weak mindset, that's what it is.
	If you're a weak-minded woman, that's how it is.
	If you're a strong-minded woman, you're a strong-minded woman.
	Well, I think, look, I'll say this in terms, so their physical strength, I think it's completely unassailable.
	Men are physically stronger than women.
	This is undeniable.
	The mental strength or weakness, I'm not prepared to bite the bullet on that just because I think it's a much harder position to defend.
	So I won't bite the bullet on that.
	I think people can make their arguments on that.
	But in terms of physical strength, you would acknowledge that men are physically stronger than women.
	Biologically, yes, but that does not necessarily directly correlate to the fact that women are weak.
	To what you were saying is women are weak.
	And I think you said the same thing, which I point, which to me personally says a lot about your own personal oppression and background of whatever your parents taught you or your religion.
	And I say that having been and grew up a Christian woman and having been in an evangelical church.
	It's very oppressive to speaking to women are weaker and when women shouldn't be in power or in leadership because we're emotional or because whatever, when actually not all of us are emotional and every single one of us in this room can, we have the full ability and capability to control our own emotions if you actually try.
	Every single woman in politics has made a fool of themselves publicly on platforms, everything.
	And it's like Literally just proved themselves to not be fit for those leadership roles.
	Women do not belong in politics.
	They don't belong in leadership roles.
	They should not be leaving this country whatsoever.
	Hasn't every man also embarrassed themselves at one point in political roles as well?
	Yeah, but they still handle it better logically because women automatically turn.
	I mean, the best, the best example I can come up with is Marjorie Green, who blew up.
	She's Republican.
	She blew up on X over men saying that, oh, you should get in the kitchen and make your own damn dinner and then clean up after yourself.
	That's a fully great example of her losing her crap when men don't do that.
	What about Caroline Levitt or Kayleigh McKenny, who have been like extremely vocal and just, I mean, badasses, to be quite frank.
	I think that they love Caroline Levin, I think, and she's a leader.
	She's not a leader.
	She's representative.
	She's representing her.
	She speaks for the men.
	The men tell them what to say.
	So there's a difference when men are telling you what to say and then thinking for yourself when you're literally a representative of Georgia.
	Like of an entire state.
	Hold on, guys.
	So I can agree on one thing.
	So if women can be drafted, then it should be okay then for a man to wash over the kids, feed the kids, like do that.
	Because if a woman does get drafted, like who's going to be doing the other stuff?
	I don't think women should be drafted.
	I don't think women should be drafted.
	Women don't belong in the military.
	Because that's like another side, because there is another job to do.
	And that's like washing, for instance, there's a family.
	In the same way.
	Women should be taking care of their family, not going to the military.
	If you have a family, you should be with your kids and providing dinner, teaching them, and not handing them over to government systems to be taken care of.
	The only ridiculous thing.
	And then, like, women getting drafted as they brought up is because of this dating culture and the fact that family is not a priority for women anymore.
	Yeah, so if a woman does get drafted, then like, okay, then a man has to wash the family.
	Well, if you both have kids, if a woman and a man have kids in the relationship, only one should get drafted, and that should be the man.
	Exactly.
	So what would happen with your scenario?
	Just to use you as an example.
	What would happen with your scenario?
	You guys aren't married.
	No.
	It doesn't matter that you're not married.
	They could draft you both.
	They don't care.
	Yeah.
	Like, there is that.
	Well, she would be considered.
	They're not married.
	She would be considered a single mother, and therefore, single mothers should not be able to be drafted because she would need to be taking care of her kids.
	It's impossible.
	You wouldn't be drafted to be drafted.
	Yeah, that's what I would think.
	I wouldn't think they would take a mom away from her kids if she's the only one watching and providing for the kids, like on paper at least.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I don't think women should be drafted, though.
	Agreed.
	Especially not me.
	Yeah, that's like the most retarded statement.
	I think woman's awareness.
	So if a woman is drafted, should the guy stay woman take her?
	Hold on, let her finish.
	I think that it should be like an organ donor.
	If you want to be able to be drafted, once you're like 18, you can let the U.S. know, whoever knows.
	Like, yeah, like I give permission to be drafted if it ever gets down to that point.
	As just a woman or both men and women?
	As just a woman.
	But men don't have a choice.
	What was the thing that I missed or whatever?
	I guess not.
	If women are drafted, then who's going to take care of the kids?
	Is it going to be the men?
	Yeah, the birth rate is in an all-time low.
	Most women are waiting until their really late 20s or 30s to have kids.
	We're below replacement level.
	So if you're saying that women are having some duty to take care of the kids, where?
	Where?
	They're not.
	Women are not holding up their end of the deal in society.
	Okay, women are the ones who are going to be responsible for regenerating the population if some of the men die in war.
	Women aren't getting married.
	They're not getting pregnant.
	They're not having kids, or they're delaying it until their fucking 30s.
	So, this idea that, well, the equal trade-off here is: well, when the men go to war and die and protect the nation, the women are going to do their duty and have kids.
	Women, by and large, are not holding up their end of the deal.
	Furthermore, women have accepted equality.
	And I would point out that men have a government-sanctioned, a government-forced duty to the country.
	Women don't have an actual duty to have kids.
	I think women do have a duty to have kids.
	They don't.
	I disagree.
	It's our purpose.
	Our purpose is to bear children.
	Our purpose is different.
	So, for example, the United States government, or let's actually, we have some two Russian women here.
	I sort of, well, one Russian woman.
	So, in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, I'm sure she's going to love this.
	So, in Ukraine, they had a shortage.
	I don't know if shortage is the right word, but they would abduct men in the streets.
	The military police would abduct men, and who knows where they ended up a few weeks or months later, probably on the front line dead, fucking getting droned or whatever.
	So, can you tell me a country where the government or the military is abducting 18 to 30-year-old women and like forcing them to get pregnant?
	Has that ever happened?
	Honestly, for some reason, that rings a bell, but I don't know what country.
	Like, some country was like below in population.
	When I'm speaking of duty, is it the case that if a woman so chooses, she can go through her whole life and never have kids?
	Yeah, she doesn't have a duty then.
	There's a moral and biological duty.
	I don't think it's you're morally obligated.
	You have a load of baby.
	Didn't you rub it?
	Yeah, that's separate.
	No, I didn't say I grew up.
	I said I grew up Christian and I went to an evangelistic church on my own.
	I was grew up Christian.
	I did.
	In the Bible, it states that women were created for the sake of man and man not for the sake of women, and that women's purpose is to bear children.
	Are there women who are atheists?
	I mean, yeah, of course, but my point is she grew up Christian.
	America will prioritize.
	Are you Christian?
	I would consider myself Christian, but more spiritually based.
	But I don't want to have kids.
	I don't want to get pregnant.
	I don't want to put my body through that.
	And I think I'm allowed to be Christian and also not get pregnant if I don't want to, because it is my choice if I want to get pregnant or not.
	Well, how is it years of ancestry?
	I'm just going to cut it off with you.
	I'm the youngest of eight children.
	They'll be okay.
	They'll be fine.
	There's plenty of babies.
	I'm an aunt of eight.
	There's plenty of children.
	I don't know.
	I don't really know that.
	I'm not.
	I have pro-Christian sentiment, but I'm not a Christian.
	Is there a Christian obligation to have children?
	I don't know.
	Is there?
	I believe that there is.
	There might be.
	Because God calls for us to make disciples and making disciples.
	Be fruitful and multiply.
	But what if they can't have children?
	Well, that would be different, right?
	Yeah, there have been stories in the Bible where women can't have children and they're called for different things.
	But I think if you're able to have children and you're choosing not to, that's selfish for the women that can't have children but want to.
	Didn't you also believe, though, that it was also like a Christian thing to not say how many, like your body count and like yours, how many people you've slept with and all that stuff?
	Yes, but under the guise of a marriage, that's different because it's sacred.
	Marriage is sacred, and children are sacred and should be protected.
	I just think everyone should have a choice.
	Like going, like being drafted should be a choice for men, and having kids should be a choice for women.
	Like everything should be a choice.
	Shit.
	Is it something about if you're a Christian?
	Is it a sin to be a Christian and choose not to have kids?
	No.
	Is it a sin?
	I don't know.
	I think you're not following the past, but you are ignoring his will.
	Is it a sin?
	Chat, is it a sin?
	Like, of course, we have to acknowledge some women can't be pregnant, can't get pregnant, but assuming that the woman doesn't have fertility issues, is it a sin to choose actively to not make a determination that you never have kids?
	Is it a sin?
	If you're a Christian, I don't know.
	I'm asking.
	People are in the chat are saying no.
	It's not a sin.
	Is it then some wait?
	Yes.
	God said be fruitful and multiply.
	It's not a sin, but is it not acting in accordance with Christianity?
	It's like you're not being sinful, but you're also not obeying God's path for you, which is then you are still straying.
	What if having children is not my path?
	What if, for instance, fostering children is my path to protect the children that are in bad foster situations?
	Adoption of the people.
	What if adoption?
	Right?
	But what if I don't want to because of my own medical situations that would make it very difficult?
	Or what if I simply don't want to put my body through that?
	What if I'm hearing a lot of I, my body, me, what I want?
	That sounds incredibly selfish.
	So wait, really quick.
	Is it selfish then in your case?
	Would it be selfish asking you to, if say she has a medical history of a lot of cancer or schizophrenia or basically things that are just not good to pass on to a child?
	Is it selfish to not have kids if you carry those like genetic predispositions?
	Yeah, because you're not going to know unless you have children if those things get passed.
	Let's go back to the draft though.
	What is something about the draft?
	Something about the draft.
	Taking care of kid tests.
	I don't know.
	What was the draft?
	Somebody was saying.
	I think women should get drafted.
	That's ridiculous.
	Maybe women should get drafted because then more women would get pregnant, trying to not go into the world.
	Essentially, what I said, yeah, I think you were like await.
	So I can agree that if women can be drafted, then women should like, then men should watch the family.
	So like, if yes, then yes.
	So like if a woman goes away to war, like who's going to watch the family?
	Then it has to be the guy.
	He has to know how to feed the family, put them to sleep, everything, all of that.
	He has to essentially perform the duties of her while she's gone.
	But women are just so much better at it than men are.
	Because men's morality is hold on, but this assumes that there is an existing family and children.
	Most likely.
	I mean, in how much.
	Women are getting married in their late 20s and not putting off having children into their late 20s and 30s.
	Most conscripted, most conscripted soldiers, it's like 18 to I don't know, 22, 23, 24.
	Well, okay, if a woman gets drafted at 18 or 20 and she, I don't know where she ends up, she never gets the opportunity to have a kid or make part.
	So just like men?
	Here, do you think women should be allowed to vote?
	Yeah?
	Okay, then they should be drafted.
	End of discussion.
	I don't...
	Drafting and being loaded, that's different things.
	Yeah, they are different things, but in order for a man to be able to vote, he has to be subject to military conscription to be able to vote in the United States.
	So if you want equality, I mean, you should probably just take it across the board.
	Brian, do you think women should vote?
	Well, it's an interesting question.
	So I'll answer it like this.
	I think we should kind of do away with universal suffrage.
	So that means we would take back voting from both men and women.
	To a degree, I think there are criteria which would allow you to be able to vote.
	One of those could be through military service.
	And we would allow both men and women to volunteer for this.
	You could also have a civil service.
	So I wouldn't gender it.
	I would just say I don't think a lot.
	I think a lot of people shouldn't be voting, both men and women.
	So you can also maybe get the right to vote through having some sort of stake in the country.
	Maybe after you have two or three children.
	Maybe if you are a landowner, a homeowner.
	Maybe you can get a stake then.
	But just anybody having the right to vote, I think is kind of a mistake.
	I think it's a massive mistake and it's led to a lot of stupid shit.
	And so I so to be clear, I'd be in favor of taking away the right to vote from both men and women.
	I don't think universal suffrage was a good idea.
	Now, there was two parts to this, but it's kind of evading me what my second part was.
	An intelligence test?
	You could, because you have a lot of like low IQ, like low low intelligence voters.
	You could do that, but I don't know if that'd be my first go-to.
	Yeah.
	I have a personal question for you.
	You said you've been married for four years now.
	Yep.
	You're 31.
	Yep.
	You want kids.
	We have an apartment right now.
	We need a bigger place.
	Okay.
	That's really it.
	I understand.
	So in terms of like women voting, though, I do think I think it's just realistically speaking, you're not going to be able to like that's an I think that's an untenable position.
	People who want to take away women's right to vote, you know, I've heard arguments for it, but I think it's politically untenable.
	I do think, though, that women currently, as it currently stands, have a privilege over men when it comes to voting, because in order for men to have the right to vote, they have to be subject to forced military conscription.
	Women have no such obligation or duty.
	I think at the very least, for the time being, we need to equalize that.
	Women should have some sort of civil or military duty to the state.
	And that should be changed.
	But getting rid of women's right to vote, I'd say no.
	But I am in favor of walking back universal suffrage for both men and women.
	Yeah.
	Do you think an army of women is going to win?
	No, I don't care, though.
	You guys voted for equality, so here are the fruits of the equality that you so desperately demand.
	I don't think women should vote personally.
	And my argument for that is because we have the choice to not be drafted.
	And if we're not going to lay down our life for this country, then we shouldn't be voting for this country, period.
	I also don't think that women, I mean, I could ask all of you guys this question and ask you if you are involved in politics or if you know anything about the governmental system of the United States.
	Honestly, I'm trying not to involve myself.
	Like, I stay away from politics.
	Did you vote in the 2025 election?
	No, I don't vote.
	I'm not planning to vote.
	I'm not old enough to vote, and I'm never probably going to vote.
	Like, I don't really care.
	Anybody else?
	I am a little bit ignorant on the last couple years of politics because I had a really bad alcoholism, stabbed myself, and then went to jail.
	So I was kind of out.
	For a little bit.
	Wow.
	Did you vote?
	Well, I wasn't around.
	Did anybody here vote?
	Me voted.
	I wasn't around.
	And I'm pretty political in my mindset and my knowledge about it.
	I think.
	Do you think women should vote?
	I think everyone should go through an intelligence test, men and women, and then maybe you can have the right to vote.
	I agree with Brian's take on it.
	I don't know exactly what would be the prerequisites for, you know, becoming.
	Closer to the mic.
	Sorry.
	I don't know what exactly the prerequisites would be, but I definitely don't think every single person in this country has the intelligence to understand fully what they are voting for.
	I also don't think dual citizens should be able to vote because you got to be locked in in America, I think, to be able to have a say in American politics.
	And if you're split, it's just not, it's just not it.
	I would say whoever wants to vote can vote.
	I'm just not going to do it.
	I think you should be living in America for at least 10 years after the age of 18 to be able to vote, in my opinion.
	But involved.
	And probably the only thing I'll agree with you on this evening, but yes, I agree.
	I think that you should actually know what you're talking about before you vote, which is personally, I don't stay up to date on a lot of politics because it is very stressful.
	And so therefore, I don't vote because I'm not going to make a decision on something or speak on something that I'm not fully informed of.
	I also wasn't in the country.
	Well, you're held 26?
	Yeah.
	So you voted.
	You could have voted for the past two elections.
	You didn't vote for either, though?
	No.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, in terms of the woman's vote, though, it is the case that if only women voted, for example, and men didn't, you'd basically have Democrat rule for the next hundred years.
	And if only men voted, you would only have Republican rule or conservative rule for the next hundred years.
	I do think it is the case that when women are voting, they typically vote for what feels good, not what is necessarily best for the country.
	Women are the pushers of political correctness.
	They're the pushers of what feels good, what seems good, what seems like the nice, warm, cuddly thing to do.
	Basically, let in a bunch of immigrants.
	Oh, it's the nice thing.
	They're coming here for a better life.
	Oh, my God.
	Women overwhelmingly vote for this.
	They support this.
	And so you could point to the enfranchisement of women for honestly a lot of the issues in the country currently.
	I think women voting is literally the burden of our economic infrastructure in all of America.
	I think we're responsible for it.
	Because otherwise we wouldn't be overrun by immigrants and our taxes wouldn't be the way that they are.
	America wouldn't be the way that it is.
	It would probably be better.
	Does anybody have any thoughts though?
	Did you vote?
	I just, I'm just wondering, did you?
	I'm not going to comment, Tanta.
	I think if you didn't vote, you honestly can't talk about politics in any way, shape, or form because you had the opportunity to make a difference in this country and you chose not to.
	I can't make a difference from Moscow, Idaho.
	Every single person in America thinks that their vote doesn't matter, and that's exactly why we had the least amount of votes this past election, and we've had in a really, really long time.
	Do you think it's because people didn't—sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
	Do you think it's because of that?
	Or do you think it's because the candidates this time just were not?
	I mean, that's either side.
	I think it's both for sure.
	But I think that every single person thinks that they can't make a difference and that's why they don't go out and vote.
	But it's your constitutional right to choose.
	And when you choose not to, how can you have an opinion on anything?
	You had the choice.
	You had the opportunity to make a difference and you chose not to.
	And your mindset is exactly what's wrong with this country.
	And it's exactly what's wrong with the youth.
	It's exactly why nobody's voting.
	And it's exactly why people keep coming into power and everybody talks about it and everybody's pissed off about it.
	But you didn't do anything when you had the chance to do it.
	So how can you speak on something when you chose not to?
	I think I never said that women don't have free will to talk about politics.
	I think women can absolutely talk about politics, but I don't think they should be involved in them.
	But talking about them is kind of being involved.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	No, it's not.
	Because if you're physically involved in politics by voting, that's completely different rather than sitting around a table talking about politics with a bunch of girls.
	Because we're not doing anything for the country right now, are we?
	We're not protesting.
	We're not pleading.
	We're not trying to run a bill.
	Like, we're not doing anything.
	We're just talking.
	You know, I was thinking about something.
	I saw a tweet and I reposted it a day or two ago.
	I think if we were importing millions upon millions of ABGs, Asian baby girls, boba girls, or whatever, like if we were importing like 18 to 29-year-old, like Southeast Asian women,
	Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese women into this country instead of like Indian men, Latin American men, I'm pretty sure women would immediately put on fucking SS uniforms and immediately want to put a stop to shout out to Hasmegold for this one.
	The women would put on an SS uniform and immediately want a complete halting of immigration into this country.
	If we were importing 18 to 29 year old women, wait, why?
	Because it would be sexual competition.
	Oh.
	If we're importing like women who are just like way better looking and like way more feminine than the like stock of women that we have in the United States, yeah, women would be like furious and up in arms because you'd start losing your like leverage in the dating marketplace.
	But because it's like, you know, we're importing men, whatever, you know, you guys are fine with it, whatever.
	No, I feel like I'm always competing with Latinas, not the Asians.
	Well, it could be Latinas too.
	It could be Latinas too, I guess.
	But yeah.
	Nothing is stopping any woman from being high quality, no matter the race.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	I just think like if the demographics of who the either legal or illegal immigrants shifted and like these women would be way more desirable than American women.
	I mean, we have a whole movement, passport bros, who leave, who travel, spend a bunch of money to go to a different country because the quality of the women in these other countries is just better than the quality of American women.
	So it's like, yeah, the women would be completely up in arms.
	White women would be the most anti-immigrant demographic that fucking ever existed if we were just importing a bunch of like hot 18 to 29 year old Latin American women, Eastern European women, even Western European women, Asian women.
	Y'all would not like that.
	Yeah.
	No?
	No?
	Nothing for that.
	I wouldn't care.
	I don't know.
	It depends on the scale.
	If they're stealing my man.
	They've taken the medicine.
	Ban immigration.
	Get them bitches out.
	Those of you who are single, do you guys feel like there's an abundance of like high-quality men currently?
	There is.
	Well, if there's an abundance of high-quality men, why aren't you dating them?
	I think there's a, at least, well, I think from the women's lens and perspective, I think women think that there's a scarcity of high-quality men.
	I don't think so.
	I think that there's, I think it's all perspective, just like everything else in life.
	And so me personally, I want someone that I feel that connection with.
	I want someone that I get along with.
	I want someone that I share morals with.
	That we have the same drive and ambition and wants in life.
	You know, I think that there's plenty of men that have money.
	There's plenty of men that are good.
	I don't believe that all men are bad.
	I don't believe that most men are bad.
	And that's a lot coming from me, if you know my background and my story.
	I think that there are a lot of good, high-quality men out there that maybe just haven't really applied themselves the way that they could.
	And they need someone that will support them or push them or whatever.
	But I mean, there's plenty of men with money that are kind, that are generous, that are whatever.
	I don't think all of them.
	What do you offer that makes a man want to push himself, though?
	That's a great question.
	I mean, I think it just depends.
	For me in my past relationships, what I've been told that I offered that made a man want to do more for himself is inspiration and support, you know, and being there 100% for him and supporting him through whatever he wants to do and whatever he wants in life.
	I think that is being a true partner.
	And I may not want kids and that I will say that is for medical reasons.
	So I'm, I'm RH negative and I've already had, I had a miscarriage with my ex-husband and RH negative means that my previously married, didn't I?
	Um, What's RH negative?
	Rh negative is, so you're either, everyone's either RH negative or RH positive.
	If you're RH negative and you have a miscarriage, then you're more likely to have more miscarriages.
	Whenever you're RH negative and you have a baby that's Rh positive or your partner's Rh positive, your body creates antibodies to kill fetus.
	And because of that, plus other things, like I have a seizure disorder, I have an extreme phobia of needles.
	I only have a seizure when I'm around needles.
	And you cannot have a seizure while you're trying to give birth.
	Well, every time that I'm, you know, if I'm giving blood or whatever, you have to give blood all the time.
	Whenever I had my miscarriage, I had to go give blood all the time.
	I had a seizure every single time.
	That impairs blood or because you have to get your HCG levels or HGC or whatever levels checked whenever you got the triggering event for your seizures was giving blood.
	Yes, since I was little.
	So I pass out and I have a grandma seizure.
	This has happened since I was seven years old.
	And I've also had seizures outside of that, but that's the primary thing that I deal with.
	Well, look, I think for medical reasons, not wanting to have children is valid.
	But so my point that I was circling back to is that even though that's not possible for me, something that I have discussed with my past partners is adoption is fostering because I'm someone that has the heart to do that, which is why I brought that point to you two ladies.
	That just because I don't feel comfortable getting physically pregnant because it could actually kill me does not mean that my you know God's path for me is not meaningful.
	Doesn't mean that I'm not meant to do something, right?
	Be that type of person or whatever.
	And I think for you ladies to sit here and say that women's duty is to get pregnant and have children is putting a box around women that have special circumstances.
	And you may not even be realizing it, but even if it was simply my choice that I just don't want to, but I have a heart for something else that a lot of people don't have a heart for, I think that that's something special.
	I do think that's kind of like a personal condition because I don't know how often that happens that someone's like HR negative or what does this have to do with the ABGs though?
	Oh my god.
	What does that have to do with the ABGs?
	I don't think anyone was really interested in the ABGs that were taking such a lot of people.
	I think you guys just don't want to acknowledge the fact that y'all women would be like the most anti-immigration people ever if the demographic of illegal and legal immigrants weren't men, but they were like 18 to 29 year old women.
	And no, no, no, the conversation was, so I think my position is we were talking about is there an abundance of high quality men out there?
	Now I think most men are good men.
	I guess it depends what we're talking about when we say high quality, but I do think a lot of women, I don't know if it's most women, a lot of women do feel, where are all the good men?
	Where did all the good men go?
	Maybe this is just from their framing their lens of they're not acknowledging all these good men that do actually exist because maybe they're chasing after a really top tier level of men.
	But I do think it's a common gripe I hear from women of where are all the good men there's a lacking of you know there's a lacking of high quality men and so my position is as it relates to the if we were to import like tens of millions of Latin American Eastern European and Asian women of Childbearing age, like you know, 18 to 30 or whatever.
	I think a lot of women have an issue with it because I think a lot of women acknowledge that there's a shortage, let's say, of possible partners, of possible high-caliber, high-quality men.
	And this would massively increase, it would create a lot of competition.
	And I think most men, American men, would probably appraise women from Latin America, women from Eastern Europe, women from Asia as higher quality partners, perhaps both, maybe not even necessarily even looks, but in terms of their values, in terms of their personality, in terms of their femininity.
	I would argue Western women, American women, are the most masculine, most masculine women to have ever existed in human history.
	You can thank feminism, you can thank equality, you can think boss babe culture, you can think degenerate rap music, all this shit.
	By the way, red flag if a woman likes rap music.
	Raise your hands if you like rap music.
	You fucking, yep, DGEN.
	D-Gen, D-Gen, D-Gen.
	Just any.
	I mean, I'll give you some leeway if it's like, you know, you listen to some, you know, good like 90s, early 2000s rap.
	But if you're listening to this fucking dog shit mumble, I don't even understand what the fuck they're saying, rap.
	And they're talking about, I mean, to be fair, rap in the 90s, they were also talking about fucking killing cops.
	And I'm going to fuck a bitch.
	And I got all this money.
	And I'm a thug, and I'm going to fucking pop a cap in your ass bullshit, fucking degenerate music.
	Yeah, I think that's like really low class.
	I completely disagree.
	I don't know.
	You disagree.
	I think it's a red flag if a woman listens to rap music.
	I just noticed that in Europe, men seem to be more in tune with their feelings and willing to be more open.
	So the quality of men in the U.S., that's just like the idea of always having an option, not being ready, not knowing what they want.
	And it's like you're sitting in front of them telling you, hey, like we've been seeing each other for months now.
	What is it that you want?
	Oh, I'm just not ready.
	He's just not into you.
	Well, yeah, but it's like, what, 40-year-old, you still don't know what you want?
	He's just not that into you.
	Or he's just not serious.
	I think American men just don't know what they want.
	I mean, they want an easy choice.
	You could say that about European men also.
	No, I think they pretty, they know what they want.
	Well, I think they do.
	No, they don't.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	There's massive.
	Like, if you look at, for example, Sweden or the Scandinavian countries, like, promiscuity is rampant in these countries.
	Sure.
	But I'm just saying what I've noticed in American men is they want an easy choice.
	They don't want you to have an opinion or thoughts.
	I'm not saying, like, they just want, you can get your tens of millions of ABGs, whoever you want, and the men will come and take them because, great, we have all these options.
	How would you feel if we had a bunch of like beautiful men who check off everything that we want come to the U.S.?
	Will you suddenly be against immigration?
	Well, I will say yes to it.
	I'm against immigration.
	Well, you shouldn't be here.
	I suppose my position wouldn't really change, but I don't know if this is going to either come across as racist or gay.
	Maybe.
	Fuck it, whatever.
	Look, I'll be honest.
	So, no, I don't think it would necessarily come across as racist.
	I'll say this.
	Of the immigrants that do come here, many of them, by the way, look, I want to say something.
	I'm not in favor of illegal immigration from South America, Latin America.
	I like Mexicans.
	Mexicans are fucking cool.
	However, I don't think we should allow them to illegally immigrate here.
	I will say this, though.
	If we were like had a bunch of immigrants from European countries, culturally, they're much more aligned with American culture.
	There would be easier assimilation, especially if they're coming from nations that speak English.
	So, yes, I do actually, if you're asking me, would I be more in favor?
	I guess technically, I would be more in favor of immigrants from Western European countries because culturally, it's easier for them to assimilate to our culture.
	Sometimes there's a shared language, English.
	And in fact, many European countries, many of them do speak English.
	You look at Scandinavia, you look at the Netherlands.
	They're basically fluent in English.
	Whereas you have like a Mexican immigrant who comes here, sometimes they stay here and they've been here for 30 years and they still don't know how to speak English.
	So, yeah, I guess I probably would be more in favor of allowing for like legal immigration.
	Well, I guess even if it's like we're granting there's going to be some level of illegal immigration, I guess I'd be more in favor of illegal immigration.
	I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, but I suppose the illegal immigration would be better if it did happen from what European countries.
	All right, so how do you feel about like people like me, like immigrants from Russia or Ukraine?
	What do you mean?
	Like, are they in favor?
	Like, are you good with them being in the country?
	How do you feel about them?
	Well, I mean, there's a couple, there's a bit of nuance to this because currently the United States is in terms of nations, we're in conflict with Russia.
	So that's another thing.
	That's kind of why people are leaving.
	But overall, I think, what do I think about legal Russian immigrants?
	I suppose I'm fine with that.
	Yeah.
	Although, truth be told, I'm really not a big fan of immigration, period.
	Whether it's legal or illegal, legal or illegal.
	I think we should probably limit it quite a bit.
	So, yeah.
	So you don't want to take it away altogether.
	If you're going to come here and you're going to assimilate and you're bringing value to the United States and you're not going to be on welfare, fuck yeah, you can come to the United States.
	But a lot of these immigrants, even from some European countries, right?
	A lot of them end up on welfare.
	A lot of them end up needing government assistance.
	And I think that that's a net negative to the United States.
	Honestly, there I can agree because I came to this country to deal myself as an artist, to be like, to perform, to create something, music and dancing.
	I think if a person has an initial goal they want to pursue here and they can pursue it here rather than there, that's like an awesome like, fuck yeah, like move here.
	I mean, I don't really, honestly, I say fuck that.
	I don't give a shit about no offense to you.
	Like congratulations for your performance art or whatever.
	I'm fine with bringing over Russian scientists, Russian physicists, Russian engineers, highly intelligent people that are going to, you know, the creative, I don't, I don't really give a fuck about importing artists.
	I don't care.
	If you're going to actually, how about, or, you know, if you're a Russian cancer researcher, fuck yeah, come here.
	You're a fucking singer, no offense to you.
	Don't give a fuck.
	That shouldn't be justification to grant you citizenship.
	Now, that's not why you were granted citizenship.
	But like, yeah, I don't, nah.
	My father studied to be an engineer in the Soviet Union, but when he came to the U.S., he couldn't necessarily get a job as an engineer here because they didn't recognize his education.
	So he unfortunately did not, he now has a very good job that he worked his ass off for, but it's not an engineering job.
	So when it came to my brother and me, my brother is now actually working as an engineer.
	He got his education as an engineer, got his job as an engineer.
	But and I'm not saying immigrants should stay on welfare through and through.
	You know, you come here, you have some doctors do come here and unfortunately cannot get the job that they studied their whole life for.
	And there's a difference in that.
	That's honestly true.
	I saw that, like I witnessed that actually happen a couple times.
	My sister-in-law's cousin is, I don't remember what exactly in the medical field she does, but she was a very good doctor.
	And she had, and she unfortunately could not work as one in the U.S.
	Well, there's different accreditation processes.
	I'm not really super familiar with that.
	I mean, I would also just amend my statement here.
	While I did say I'm in favor of, you know, let's say you're some superstar physicist, engineer, you're in STEM in a foreign country.
	I would love to bring people's intelligence to the United States so long as it doesn't misplace American citizens who are also in these fields.
	So if we had, you know, if we have a limited amount of jobs in physics, I'm trying to think of, well, physics, engineering, engineer, whatever, I don't know, what are some of the other examples?
	If it's not displacing American citizens by bringing them in, and it's just bolstering our base of our ability, I don't know.
	I don't know the right phrasing, but then yeah, I'm fine with it.
	I think that people shouldn't immigrate to America unless they're willing to serve in the military.
	And I think if they come here, they should serve in the military, personally.
	Not that I don't disagree with that, but what about age-wise, depending on when you come to the country?
	You know, is there an age limit to what you just said?
	No, I don't think that people should immigrate to America if you're not from here.
	That wasn't what you said.
	You were talking about Army.
	Like, if you move to the U.S., then you should join.
	You know, I'm just asking, my specific question is age-wise.
	Like, do you have an age limit to when you're in the mid-million?
	So, like, if your parents immigrated here with you, is that your point?
	No, I was simply asking your question.
	Like, if you immigrate and you're, let's say, in your 40s, should you still go into the Army?
	50s, 60s?
	I don't think I would agree with that.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think.
	Well, I also, I don't know if I don't know if I would be in favor of like having France has something called the French Foreign Legion, where you can basically, you can come from anywhere.
	And if you agree to serve in the French Foreign Legion, you can, that will be your pathway to becoming a French citizen.
	I don't really like that.
	I don't think I like that for the United States.
	I think we've taken in a lot of people.
	I think we got to keep, I don't know.
	We got enough problems as it is.
	Let's just keep America America for a little bit, fix some of our problems, then we can maybe revisit allowing all these other people to come here.
	Well, that's my whole point: I'm not for immigration by any means whatsoever.
	And it's the whole problem with America to this day.
	I think that if you want to come to this country, then you should be willing to fight for it rather than come to this country, live here, and oppose it.
	Yeah, but I wouldn't be open.
	Like, I don't think that there should be some United States military program that's like, hey, come join this military group and we'll give you citizenship.
	I don't know if I like that.
	I think we can call upon our existing citizenry to provide the defense of the United States.
	I don't think we need foreigners to do that.
	Okay, honestly, one thing there is a difference between immigration, I mean, immigrants and migrants.
	So, like, immigrate and completely like migrate.
	Does someone know the difference between what?
	Immigration and migration.
	Because I'm pretty sure that immigration is when a person comes to a country for a couple of years, just maybe like escaping a war or pursuing something for like school and then they go back.
	But migration is when they move and they're willing to live the rest of their life in that other country.
	And that's a very big difference.
	Okay.
	Is there a point?
	There is a point because all of the stuff with the war, with the skills, being like scientists, doctors, some people who are immigrants, they didn't want to end up here.
	They were just escaping a war.
	What?
	I think you're talking about asylum seekers, not immigrants.
	Or refugees.
	Yeah, refugees.
	Fleeing persecution.
	Maybe.
	Is that what you mean?
	Yeah, I don't.
	So there's no war in Canada.
	There's no war in Mexico.
	Those are the only two countries that border the United States.
	There's no re why the fuck are Somalians coming here?
	That's a fucking other continent.
	We're Indians.
	They're economic migrants.
	And I just asylum.
	Asylum seeker to the United States?
	From where?
	Canada's not doing some stupid shit.
	You could argue there's some conflict in Mexico, but nothing that would warrant a Mexican to seek asylum.
	And the international rules as it relates to asylum seeking, you don't.
	You have to stop at the first country that'll take you.
	So there's plenty of countries in Latin America.
	Well, I mean, Mexico would be the clear choice here.
	You have all these people coming from South America.
	They need to stop in Mexico if they're actually seeking asylum or perhaps even some prior country.
	I don't know exactly the specific details.
	I don't know if it'd be Costa Rica.
	I don't know if it'd be Panama.
	I'm not entirely sure.
	Maybe if you're, I don't, I'm not super familiar with the exact thing here.
	But I don't know who comes to the United States.
	How are you coming to the U.S. for asylum?
	I would say that's what about people from Ukraine.
	That's not really.
	I mean, you can go west into Europe.
	Some countries aren't that welcome to people coming there.
	Why should America be if all other countries aren't?
	So where would they go, for instance?
	That's not our problem.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Why can't we help the I would actually be in favor of helping these countries develop Don't you think we've poured enough money into other countries though?
	Like, why not actually help our own country that's billions of dollars in debt because of other countries?
	Well, sure.
	I mean, look, if the trade-off, though, if the trade-off is through, you know, helping these countries build up their infrastructure or whatever, and perhaps we can even get a return on investment, that would limit immigration, which has an economic cost to the United States taxpayer.
	If the economic trade-off makes sense, then why not do it?
	Like, if we can invest in this country, if we can spend a million dollars in some Latin American country and develop it to the point that X amount of people would be less likely to immigrate, illegally immigrate to the United States, and through there, if they would have otherwise illegally immigrated, this would cost us $5 million.
	I think that the trade-off is clear.
	I mean, sure, we've done it before, like helping with the liberation of France, and there didn't turn out to be complete degenerates.
	But we've tried with other countries like the Middle East, and I mean, it has blown up in our FaceTime time after time.
	I mean, we've pulled out of that country, what, four times now?
	Afghanistan?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but there wasn't really like Afghanistan, people from Afghanistan did not really have a great pathway to illegally immigrating to the United States.
	I agree with you that the intervention, the United States intervention in much of the Middle East was a complete failure militarily and economically and had a massive, has created a massive burden on the taxpayer.
	But I don't know if that's really related to immigration necessarily.
	Well, most of the immigration here are becoming Middle Eastern.
	So I would argue that it is.
	I don't know if that's because of U.S. intervention in the Middle East.
	No, I don't think it is.
	But I'm like, my point is you guys are talking about how we shouldn't be, or we should be like helping countries become democracies or whatever.
	And we tried that and it failed.
	The U.S. military intervention in Afghanistan, I think that's a little different than what I'm talking about here.
	I think if even corporations want to go into these countries and they want to get a return on investment or something, they think it would be beneficial.
	Or even if it's the United States government is giving guidance, why not?
	And if we think it's going to have some downstream positive effect for the United States, either through a diminishing of immigration or perhaps economic benefit, then I think I'm fine with it.
	I don't think we should be necessarily doing fucking regime change shit.
	Okay, so you're not talking about governmental aid.
	You're talking about just strictly economic infrastructure.
	Like if we were to bring Micron to Europe, is that what you mean?
	Like investing in the country in that way.
	Look, if we can have a, I don't know the precise specifics, but a lot of these fucking countries don't know how to like run proper infrastructure.
	How can we get them up to speed so they can be self-sustaining and they can have a quality of life for their citizenry that is good?
	So yeah, I think it's okay to help out other nations, you know, increase their development index or whatever.
	If we come, I think that's totally fine.
	I don't think we should be like having fucking wars in these countries and like spending a ton of money.
	But I think that there are government programs that can bolster.
	If we do want to see, for example, a decrease in immigration from these countries, maybe there's things that we can do to put in place so that these countries can develop.
	And I think one of the ways you can do that is through assistance with infrastructure and making these countries like good places to live.
	That way, people don't want to leave these countries.
	They want to stay in their countries.
	How do we do that though?
	I mean, I don't want to.
	You're getting into the weeds here.
	I don't fucking care.
	And I honestly don't know.
	I'm not interested in having that.
	Like, is that really what you want to talk about?
	I wanted this to be a general thought right here is a very general conversation.
	You want to get into like how we can better the infrastructure in Peru?
	I don't know.
	My point is just saying, like, how are we supposed to do that other than influencing these countries?
	That's why I'm saying we shouldn't get involved because we're already a great influence.
	And if they can't like follow, then what's the point?
	What do you mean?
	Like, if we're the lead country in the entire world, right?
	Like, economically.
	If we're leading by influence and other countries can't follow and see what we're doing and say, oh, they're doing so great.
	Why don't we try to establish this in our own country or like in our own country?
	Then how are we supposed to force them to do that if they can't just follow?
	I can't say anything about forcing them to do that, but you can guide people.
	You can give them, you know, steps for how to set up their infrastructure and so forth.
	You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it.
	True.
	I think he's talking about the general preference of us as a country being able to help.
	And because we're able to help, we can.
	But at the same time, we don't really owe anything to other countries.
	So it is a preference.
	Okay, pull that up, Mary.
	Can I have you read the super chat?
	I think a duty is any task that even though an individual may morally and/or ethically disagree with doing, they are still obligated to perform to the best of their ability.
	I think an example for men would be the selective service.
	What example of that do you women have?
	Yeah, so this goes back to our conversation about we're talking about duties, we're talking about voting, and I think men have duties.
	I don't think women have duties.
	And so this puts women in a privileged position in society.
	And ultimately, women have a right basically granted to them completely for free.
	And then men have a men have a voting right, but it comes with strings attached.
	So do women have any duties?
	Yeah.
	Not like lawful ones.
	Like you said, you can't force women to get pregnant.
	But like I said earlier, there is a duty to have a family.
	I know like there are certain medical conditions, but just why I'm all for adoption.
	I'm all for fostering.
	But I think in general, family making, that is a duty for, you know, for women.
	I agree with that.
	I mean, that's what I do.
	I raise my kids.
	I watch them.
	My husband provides everything else.
	My job is to serve him and be there for him, do everything that I can to make his life easier to provide for us.
	And I think a lot of men would definitely expect their wives or their girlfriends to provide.
	I mean, they cook, they clean, they are going to child rear, take care of them.
	I mean, I would essentially argue that that would be in line with what you're talking about.
	Well, almost bringing it back to the conversation of voluntary versus involuntary.
	So all these things you guys are describing as voluntary.
	A woman can go through life in the United States and the government wouldn't force her to get married.
	The government can't force her to have children.
	You might argue that there's social pressure, although I really, I think it seems in the opposite direction today.
	Meanwhile, the United States government can call upon U.S. citizen males and force them into the military if they wanted to.
	So I think men have a duty to this country in order to be able to vote.
	Men have a duty.
	Men have to register with the selective service.
	If they don't, there's all kinds of consequences.
	There's no corresponding equivalent thing for women.
	There isn't.
	There really isn't anything women have except, I mean, there's something both men and women need to do, and that's jury duty, but that's like nothing.
	Men go to war.
	They get drafted.
	Women, everything else is something that we ultimately have a choice on.
	Like morally, we have a choice if we want to have children for a man.
	We have a choice if we want to cook for a man, if we want to clean for a man.
	I can agree with you.
	So are we, I don't know, do we agree?
	Women don't have duties?
	I agree that we don't have lawful legal duties.
	Yeah.
	Your thoughts?
	Yeah, I mean, I agree.
	We don't have lawful duties.
	But men do.
	Yeah.
	So are women in a privileged position?
	Absolutely.
	In certain ways, we do have privileges over than men, but in certain ways, men have more privileges than us.
	Like what?
	Like being able to walk down the street at 12 o'clock at night and not feel like you're going to get raped or murdered.
	Yes, exactly.
	You're putting your feelings about men.
	So you're disagreeing with your fear, you're putting it on.
	Well, actually, yes, no, I can say I do disagree with that because there are men can just as much get raped as a woman can.
	I'm not scared of walking alone at all.
	It all just depends on how a man feels.
	Two things on your point.
	So I think men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	So maybe even if it is the case that women feel more fear, the actual statistics show that men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	Also, this idea that men are just like completely oblivious to potential threats if they're walking in a, you know, down the street late at night.
	I don't actually believe that.
	I myself have to take precautions as a man.
	If you're walking in an area, there's not much one man can do against two men, against three men, against four men.
	So this also there are men, even if it's one man, there are men who are stronger than other men.
	So if that man's stronger than me or he has a weapon or whatever it is, it doesn't really change anything.
	But men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	And then I think the other thing, though, assuming you're walking in, let's say, a public area, perhaps there might be, like if it's totally barren and there's just no people around.
	I actually think women are afforded quite a bit of privilege and protection if they're walking in a public area alone versus a man who's walking in the public area alone.
	The way I know this is because while this isn't univers, this isn't necessarily always the case.
	I think as a woman, if you're walking and say it's a kind of a crowded area here in the United States and like some random guy comes up to you and starts like beating you up and there's other men around who don't know that guy and don't know you, there are definitely men who will intervene on your behalf who don't know you, who don't owe you anything, who will protect you, who will step in, who will white knight for you.
	If I'm walking down the street completely alone, I don't know any of these other people in the street and some random guy starts whooping on me and beating me up.
	There's no men, no men are going to intervene on my behalf as some sort of virtuous, there's far less likely some virtuous man is going to save me.
	No, I'm going to get my ass whooped and that's going to be it.
	So you women, you have male bodyguards by proxy.
	You have male bodyguards if you're out in public who don't know you.
	And men will see, like, I don't know, I don't know if somebody disagrees with me on this, but it is, this is a phenomenon that exists.
	If a group of men sees a woman getting attacked by like one dude, you can look at a lot of these videos, like the men are instantly gonna, like, these men are like, whoa, that girl's getting beat up.
	What the fuck?
	You never hit a woman.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	And then that guy's gonna get, he might get fucking killed.
	He's gonna get curb stomped.
	He's gonna get kicked in the skull when he's fucking knocked out.
	And look, if he, if a random man attacks a woman or a man, I think randomly, I think you probably should get fucking kicked in the head a few times.
	But I do think this is a privilege that women have.
	So you actually, when you women are walking alone in public, I think you're protected.
	I don't know if you guys agree.
	Do you disagree?
	Do you disagree?
	I agree with that.
	I actually genuinely feel relatively safe in public and in daylight.
	If I'm walking alone, I think it's just like any man.
	Actually, a friend of mine was walking alone.
	He was in Cape Town and he got pepper sprayed in his mouth and the side of his head and they tried to steal his phone.
	I think the only difference there is like he being a man of strength and not like intoxicated of any sort, he was able to fight them off.
	And I think the difference here would be like a woman may be less likely to fight them off if she's not trained in something or whatever.
	So I think that's the only difference in privilege between man and woman or the obvious that we see.
	A woman typically doesn't or isn't able to hold as much power in like a boardroom or in position of power.
	They're typically not as respected.
	And I think, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, you can look it up.
	I'm not sure.
	I haven't looked at the stats on it, but in like medical doctors, men typically get paid more than women, even still.
	That's because men go into, in the medical field, men go into higher paying disciplines.
	Honestly, maybe true.
	Because we brought all of this up, I don't want to argue with anyone, but what's going around like on social media and what I see pretty often is that women argue that having a period every month is like a downgrade.
	Like we don't have a privilege because we have a period every month.
	I don't personally have an opinion on it, but how do you guys feel about the fact that, oh, we are equal because we have our struggle, which is having a period every month, which men don't.
	Our struggle is a blessing because it allows us to have children.
	I think women aren't equal in the workforce for several reasons.
	Firstly, women don't ask for the raises as much as men.
	Secondly, women with family planning and such are more likely to take time off compared to men.
	And yeah.
	Those are the two main points.
	But if you're family planning, then shouldn't you be earning the same amount so that you can also save up to support your family or like you and do you think a company is going to care about that?
	I think a company is going to care about its profitables, which I think men are more likely to give it.
	You may be correct.
	Women should be drafted.
	No.
	Maybe we shouldn't be drafted.
	No, women should be drafted.
	Like the strong ones.
	Well, I'm strong too, of course.
	Like everybody's a certain amount of strong, but like the big, like I would not be able to kill somebody or something.
	Oh, yeah.
	I would cook.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, you can cook, I guess.
	Yeah.
	In the military kitchen.
	Slay.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think, look, if women have had the right to vote for over 100 years, the women have the 19th Amendment was what?
	It was passed in, was it 1918?
	1919.
	1918 and then ratified in 1920.
	I don't know.
	I always get confused with like, well, it was passed, but then it was ratified.
	They got the right to vote in 1920.
	And women have had over.
	Huh?
	It was ratified.
	Ratified in 1920.
	When did it pass?
	Was it before then?
	It doesn't really matter.
	It was ratified in 1920.
	Women have had the right to vote for over 100 years, but in order for men to vote, they had to be subject to military conscription.
	Women still, after 100 years, equality, boss, babe, blah, blah, blah.
	Still not equal.
	I think ultimately, look, we got to finally make a decision on this.
	Either we draft women or, look, I think we got to draft women.
	Women, you can keep the votes, but we got to draft you, you know?
	Or in order to make things equal, I guess it wouldn't be equal.
	I guess you got to take away the right to vote.
	If only men can be drafted, I think you got to take away the right to vote.
	If we keep it as it is, I'm in favor of women voting, but you got to be drafted.
	I think if you want to be a woman and you want your right to vote, you should be drafted.
	But if you're not going to vote, if you don't want to get drafted, you shouldn't be able to vote.
	It's the most basic I've heard you say.
	Let's see here.
	Let's get into, oh boy.
	Oh, here's a fun segment.
	I don't know if it's going to work tonight, but we'll see.
	You're the only one who does OnlyFans, right?
	Nobody else here has done sex work or stripping or anything.
	No OnlyFans.
	Oh, I did stripping too.
	Oh, you did stripping too?
	Okay, well, I'll try it with everybody, but I usually, it's more so directed at women who do OF, but anybody can do it too.
	Anybody here have cash on them?
	You got cash?
	No.
	No cash?
	No cash?
	Wait, on person or like in my wallet?
	Like in your purse back.
	Not on you right now, but you have cash on you.
	You got cash on you?
	Cash?
	You got rubles?
	What do you got?
	No Russian dollars.
	You got cash?
	You don't got cash?
	I ain't bring anything.
	I expect all right.
	So, look, even if you're not doing OnlyFans or doing any other kind of sex work, I do think even non-sex worker women, you guys have simps.
	You guys have men who will just send you money.
	I don't know.
	Maybe you were on a dating app and you were like, put your Venmo in there.
	I've heard women who, I wouldn't categorize this as sex work, but women on a dating app, this happened.
	I don't know if they allow this anymore, but women like long time ago would put like their cash app or Venmo in a dating app and be like, Venmo me for a surprise or some bullshit.
	And a lot of these men would send them cash money.
	Even if you're not on a dating app, I've heard stories from women.
	Oh, this guy just paid me money for existing, I guess.
	So as a novelty, as a fun little thing, you can say this one time, I simped for a dude.
	I gave him money.
	Yeah, if I am accepting, I actually not just accepting, I demand cash payment.
	I demand it.
	So will you give me your cash?
	Can I have your cash?
	Here I'll.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Look, first taker, how much is that?
	Ooh, this is a donation from both me and my husband because we're big fans.
	Your husband is also gifting me.
	Okay, so it's a dual gift.
	Well, thank you very much.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	You are simp number one for tonight.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	Will you I accept Venmo Cash App Zell?
	PayPal.
	Anybody want cash on me?
	What's the point of this?
	The point is, is as a fun Uno reverse role reversal, one time in your life, you can be like, look, I would never do this, but just because for funsies on the whatever podcast, I will simp for a man and just give him cash.
	I'll just give him money.
	Oh, my, my, oh, look at that.
	My, oh, another one.
	Okay, keep it coming.
	Oh, shit.
	I just got 25 from my employee, so which I guess will be returned for in a roundabout way.
	Thank you.
	What?
	So it's like, because y'all women get simped over.
	Men just will give you money.
	Yeah.
	And this is like, just give me money.
	I think that I've never been sent money one time.
	But do it for not like because you genuinely mean it, but just for the funsies.
	I used to be friends with a girl who I called her simp queen because it's not that the guys gave her money.
	It's just they would get her and they would drive hours long just to bring her boba or food.
	They would get her gifts.
	They would give her this or that.
	And then she'd just do her cute little voice and giggle and be like, I don't know.
	They just, they're my friends.
	And I'm like, you're a simp queen.
	And she's like, don't call me that.
	I'm not a simp queen.
	I'm like, I don't know what to tell her.
	So who wants to give me cash?
	I don't.
	What value are you providing for the transaction right now?
	For the cash.
	It's the same value that women are providing when they're just getting money.
	Yeah, but those weird men are going to go jerk off.
	Okay, for the discussion.
	It doesn't matter whether I'm sitting there doing nothing sexual.
	It does not have to be a sexual thing.
	It can just be a tribute.
	For what?
	I'm sure that there would be plenty of women that would be willing to give you cash, just none at this table.
	Why?
	I didn't care.
	Other than you who was married.
	So I made a little money from that.
	What can I say?
	All right, moving on to the next topic.
	We're going to do no takers, unfortunately.
	Unfortunate.
	Unfortunate.
	You know, hey, it is what it is.
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their own looks, face, body, total.
	On a scale of zero to 10, you can't pick seven, starting with you.
	I think this is messed up because I want to pick seven so bad because I genuinely think that, but I wrote 6.5 just to sway more towards the lower end because of the beauty standards these days.
	Well, let's do face, body, total.
	Oh, like each?
	Yeah.
	Ranking for each.
	I think my face, I can't say seven for any of them.
	Nope.
	We'll allow 0.5s, though.
	How about that?
	Okay.
	I think my face is a 6.5.
	Okay.
	I think my body is.
	Think about your answers while she's pondering.
	I think, I don't know, it's so subjective.
	I think for myself, I like my body.
	I would say, I can't say 7.
	Another 6.5.
	6.5 total.
	Okay.
	So you?
	Honestly, okay.
	I'm starting with my face, right?
	Yeah, face, body total.
	Face, I'll say 100 out of 10.
	Yeah.
	100 out of.
	Can you speak a little louder for us, please?
	Yeah, I would say my face is 100 out of 10 on a scale of 10 out of 10.
	So 10, I guess.
	Body?
	My body?
	Well, I'll say like, okay, 9.9 out of 10 because I missed the gym one time this week.
	If you didn't miss the gym, what would it be?
	It would be 10 out of 10.
	so total 10 because i gotta what's total Looks.
	Total 10.
	My look today?
	No.
	In general.
	I'll say, okay, no.
	Probably, yeah, 10 out of 10.
	Okay, what about you?
	Face 4, face 4, body 4, total 6.
	That makes zero fucking sense, but okay.
	Okay.
	Total looks.
	What is the other factor then?
	Because look, I'll do two, four, and six then.
	I don't care.
	Because it would work like this.
	The math, right?
	The total would be inferred from the face and body.
	So if you said like face four, body six, that would be like five, basically.
	You could view it like that.
	Although it would depend if you value face or body more.
	So it could vary, but there's, I don't think you can go four face, four body six total.
	I don't understand how that would work.
	Okay, well then I'll do three face, three body six total.
	Does that make sense?
	That's even worse.
	Maybe still fix her personality is like a 10 out of 10.
	No, but it's just looks.
	So total looks.
	Okay, well then the total will just ultimately be a six.
	Okay, but face four, body four.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'd like to say six for face, eight for body.
	Okay, six face, eight, body, seven total.
	Sure.
	But I can't say seven, so eight.
	Eight total.
	Seven point five.
	What about you?
	I'd say five for face and four for body, so four and a half total.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm going to go tens all the way around.
	Yeah, she has an amazing body, actually.
	Okay.
	I'd say four everything.
	Four, four, four?
	Yeah.
	If you guys can just say four, face, four, body, four total.
	I'd probably say my face, since we can't say seven, like seven point five.
	Well, do this.
	Do eight or six point five?
	Okay, I'll say eight for my face and nine for my body because of my back problems.
	And total 8.5.
	Wait, 9 because of your back problems?
	It was a joke.
	I don't get it, though.
	Again.
	This is a bat.
	I'm sorry, I'm just, you know us men, we're not very humorous.
	Right.
	Can someone explain the joke to me?
	I'm guessing that she has your back hurts often.
	Is that the problem?
	Yes.
	It's the thing that drops you from a 10 to a 9 if you're back.
	If I was a 10 out of 10, my body would be perfect.
	It would work 100% of the time.
	Oh, that's funny, actually.
	I see.
	He's slow.
	You get a downgrade from 10.
	If it wasn't for your back problems, you would be a 10.
	Yeah, I like my body.
	Okay.
	And then total?
	I guess I would average to like a 9, 8.5, 9.
	Okay, well, just 9, 8.5, I guess.
	All right, what about you?
	Five face, five body, five total.
	Five, five, five.
	All right.
	I give myself 4.5, 4.5, 4.5.
	Okay.
	So my attention draws to the 10.
	The 10.
	I would stand by Katie's 10 because we've known each other for a little bit and she literally works out.
	And if you've seen her photos, she's got a 10 out of 10 body.
	So she does.
	She's wearing all black, and I'm trying not to.
	I don't stare at it.
	Oh, but you ask us to rate our bodies.
	You go ahead and stare.
	You might as well.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Queen.
	Got you.
	Okay.
	Can you guys tell me for the two women who are tens?
	Can you tell me a male, maybe like an actor or a celebrity, somebody who we could Google?
	A man who you think is a 10?
	Oh, oh my gosh.
	Okay, Swaylee.
	Who's that?
	It's a rapper.
	Is that that little skinny guy who sings in.
	Girl!
	What are you talking about?
	Tom.
	That name sounds familiar from like 15 years ago.
	That's like that challenge that was on Vine where they like paused.
	For you?
	She's taking a moment.
	I just don't really pay attention to celebrities all that much, but my forever celebrity crush is The Rock.
	The Rock.
	Okay, you guys are giving me some fucking weird answers to this.
	That's awesome.
	That's all I got.
	All right, I think everybody knows what The Rock looks like.
	Why don't you pull up Sway Lee?
	What the fuck?
	This is your looks crush.
	Girl.
	Scroll down.
	I'm sorry.
	That's cool.
	This is a male 10 to you.
	Just question: you said you're like dating three guys.
	Are they black?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	And so Sway, that guy's a 10 for you.
	Yeah.
	Are you just like a fan of his music, or is that actually like you think he's really physically attractive?
	I just think he's attractive.
	Like 10.
	Yeah.
	So he, okay.
	I have actually, chat, I have no idea what to do with that one.
	What about a girl?
	What about a girl who you think is a 10?
	Like a female celebrity?
	Let me think.
	A girl who I think is a 10.
	That's a celebrity.
	What about for you?
	Angelina Jolie, all the way.
	Angelina Jolie.
	Okay.
	For you?
	What about for you?
	I kind of think of anyone.
	I don't know.
	Are there any like Russian celebs or something you can think of?
	There's a lot of beautiful Russian.
	A lot of Russian women are very beautiful typically.
	Okay, pull up Angelina Jolie, I guess.
	So Angelina Jolie, she's a 10.
	Let's do young.
	She's old now.
	Let's do young Angelina.
	Yeah, in her prime.
	scroll up scroll up scroll up to the very top um okay that's why don't we do the is that wait wait scroll up scroll up scroll up The yearbook photo, is that AI or is that real?
	It looks AI.
	I don't think that's real.
	That one looks AI, the yearbook one.
	Here, scroll down.
	How about the how about the one where with a blue?
	She's wearing a backpack.
	Click on that one.
	All right.
	Now on the image, right-click on it and do open in new tab at the very top.
	All right, show us the image.
	So she's a 10.
	I think so.
	I think she's stunning.
	Okay.
	Do you have it?
	Yeah.
	Wait, hold on.
	No, no, no.
	That's what it did, though.
	Was it open image in New Tab?
	Yeah, but it did.
	That's weird.
	I don't know why that.
	Okay, whatever.
	It doesn't matter.
	We see.
	You might have done like open link in New Tab.
	I don't know.
	I couldn't see.
	Anyways, pull it back up.
	Is there a way to make it bigger?
	There should be a way to like isolate just the photo.
	Just pull it up.
	Okay, that works, I guess.
	All right.
	Angelina Jolie.
	I don't know if this.
	No, it's not AI.
	2020 is when this was posted on Facebook.
	Okay, so she's a 10.
	You're a 10.
	Would you say you were like equivalent looks to her?
	Well, I don't.
	In terms of beauty?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think she has a very unique classic look, and I think I have a very unique classic look.
	We don't look the same, but we have to do that.
	Yeah, you guys do look different.
	Yeah, I do think that we have the same level of beauty.
	I'm kind of known for my classic beauty and my classic look.
	Like silent film actress.
	Yeah, actually.
	Sometimes, yeah.
	You have like a girl next door vibe.
	That's kind of like all the time.
	Yeah.
	I do think of anyone here, I would say you're the most beautiful looks-wise.
	You're so sweet.
	I think you're stunning.
	Thank you.
	You're sweet.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	I did the open lane on access.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Do you think if you were to use words to describe your physical appearance, like what would you use?
	Adjectives, I guess.
	Some of the things that I already said, I have a classic look.
	I have a very unique look.
	It tends to get me a lot of work and a lot of bookings.
	All natural, very fit, very in shape.
	Always in the gym.
	yeah um uh if going around the table if uh say a hundred thousand men were to rate you let's just we won't do face body We'll just do your average total rating or whatever.
	Do you think that the rating would be the same?
	Would it be lower?
	Would it be higher?
	Or what do you think it would be?
	I'm answering if it would be lower or higher, or I'm getting a rating.
	Yeah, so you rated yourself 6.5.
	Do you think if 100,000 men their average rating, do you think they would rate you 6.5?
	Would they rate you higher, lower?
	I think probably 6.5.
	Okay, what about you?
	What do you think?
	You rated yourself a 10 across the board, basically.
	Do you think the 100,000 men would rate you?
	Well, you can't go higher than the 10, but 10, or would they rate you lower?
	Maybe a little lower because of my personality.
	Well, no, it wouldn't be personality.
	It would just be looks.
	They're just doing an assessment on looks.
	Also, why would they rate you lower?
	Because of your personality.
	I mean, there's probably subject matter there that we can get into, but that's another conversation.
	I just, okay, I would say probably at least 10 or 9.
	Yeah, somewhere there.
	Maybe a little lower because I think I have like my self-esteem is a little too high.
	It's too high.
	A little bit, but well, there's no dispute from me on that one.
	But what about you?
	I was a six right.
	You said four, four, six.
	Oh, into the mic, please.
	Probably lower.
	Okay, okay.
	My average was a seven?
	Yeah.
	I'd say six face, eight body.
	Six feet.
	Yeah, so I'd say maybe seven or a six would be my average.
	If a hundred thousand men were to rate me.
	Okay, what about you?
	What do you think?
	I think mine would say the same.
	Like, what did I say, four and a half?
	Yeah, four and a half was your total.
	What about you?
	I think eight.
	Eight.
	Okay, interesting.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Maybe a five.
	Okay.
	But you said you gave yourself four, four, four?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Probably a little lower.
	So what?
	Maybe like a 6.57.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think they'd rate me the same as a 5.
	Same as a 5.
	All right.
	Why is it for you, you say you're a 10, 10, 10?
	Why would the men, why do you think the men would rate you an 8?
	This is a fantastic question, Brian.
	Thank you so much for asking.
	With our current, I'm going to call it an epidemic.
	Epidemic.
	Epidemic of lots of plastic surgery.
	There is a new kind of look on or a new social expectation of what they expect a woman to look like that is not necessarily natural.
	So I'm rating myself on a scale of what I believe is beautiful.
	And I do believe that I'm a 10 full wholeheartedly because why would I downgrade myself?
	And all of you ladies should think that you're a 10 as well.
	Good, good.
	So two things that I want to respond to.
	Do you think all women should view themselves as a 10?
	I do.
	I do think all women should have that confidence.
	Do you agree with her?
	Other 10?
	I think that, yes, if they actually work on themselves.
	Like, she's always in the gym.
	I'm always in the gym.
	I feel like we resonate there.
	So, like, if they actually work towards being one, like, I don't like encourage Botox or anything.
	I don't like.
	Are all women tens?
	I think in their own way, everyone is beautiful.
	Yeah, I do think so.
	I think everyone can be a 10.
	Everyone can be a 10?
	How would they achieve this?
	Wait, didn't you?
	There was an issue with plastic surgery.
	I mean, you.
	So I don't personally agree with completely changing your face and the way that you look for a lot of different reasons.
	But, you know, I think if you want one thing here, one thing there.
	But it's really shifted and changed the outlook of what beauty is.
	I'm sorry, am I boring you?
	No, I was just yawning.
	Just kidding.
	Yeah, so therefore, there is a different expectation.
	That's why I rated myself or said that men might rate me lower is because, you know, I don't have like a boob job, right?
	So I don't have like double D's, I have my natural like B's or whatever they are.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, hold on, really quick on the all tens thing.
	So all women are tens?
	I think so.
	Because we're all men tens?
	I think so.
	No, that's a really good point.
	I think in their own way, all men can be tens.
	Yeah.
	Wow, that's really.
	How come you're willing to give women the like, yes, girls slay, you're all tens, the confidence.
	But for men, you're like, eh, maybe they can reach 10 level.
	Because I love women and I want to support women.
	So men don't need support?
	Men do need support.
	I never said that.
	But you can support women and support men.
	Yeah, I do.
	I love you.
	But she does point something out where you were quicker to say, yes, all women are tens, but there seemed to be hesitation when we were trying to do the same appraisal of men.
	Just because I don't find every man attractive, right?
	Do you find all women attractive?
	I find a lot of women, most women attractive, yeah.
	Can I ask you something?
	Yeah.
	So would you say that that should be like men should do, should say the same thing towards men?
	Like a man should say, oh, all men are 10 out of 10, and women should say, oh, all women have 10 out of 10.
	But if a woman is speaking about a guy, then she can say, like, yeah, I don't know.
	So because you are supporting girls, then men are supporting men.
	Well, that's valid.
	I think that's valid.
	Do you think all women are tens?
	And if I said, like, if they work towards being one, like, if they work on themselves, then I guess they could be.
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	But should, how about this?
	Well, there's two different questions.
	Do you think all women are tens, or do you think all women should say they're tens?
	A little bit different, but do you think all men are tens?
	They can be.
	I have the same answer for both of them.
	For both women, and then they can be tens.
	Like, if they're saying that they have everyone has 10 potential as long as everyone works towards that 10.
	Yeah.
	So you think that everyone can be a 10, even like someone with like deformities, they can be 10.
	Oh, girl.
	If they work on themselves.
	Just talking about going to the gym.
	We're talking about like the 10 potential.
	Yeah, you do realize that like facial attractiveness is absolutely massive and there's very little that you can do to improve that.
	Even oftentimes getting plastic surgery, you still can't, there's a limit to what you can do.
	I was going to say that you can go to the gym as often.
	You can fix your body, fix your body.
	Just do changes to your body by going to the gym and working out.
	I go to the gym as much as do, but you can't change your face unless you do surgeries.
	Right, but attractiveness is collective.
	So I agree that most people do have the capacity to, although, I mean, there's even genetic components to, well, your muscle insertions and like some people have an easier time, at least especially with men, putting on muscle.
	Like some men just don't have like good muscle insertions and their chest is going to look all fucking retarded and their biceps are not going to look right and their triceps and their shoulders.
	All these things, right?
	So, I mean, you can get fit, but even then, there's some degree of genetic limitation.
	I don't think anybody is a 10.
	Nobody.
	Well, I mean, you're a woman of God, right?
	I think the only thing that person that can be considered a 10 if you look at it this way would be Jesus, right?
	Because he was made to be a 10.
	Nobody else.
	You don't know what Jesus looks like.
	Not all made in God's image.
	Not like that, but like in this way.
	Like, if created that way, God was created to be like the perfect image.
	Whether it's like personality, like everything-wise, it's just that's created to be the perfect image.
	And for looks-wise, this aspect of it, if you're doing it this way, let's say, let's say, I don't know, for me, I rate myself for my looks a four, but I don't know, like my, my nose, I think my nose is very big.
	I think my hair is beautiful.
	It's just, it's about like your.
	What does that have to do with Jesus?
	It has to do with the fact that like he thinks that I'm perfect.
	I think that we shouldn't rate people personally because I do agree with you.
	We're all created in God's image, which is perfect.
	I don't think that we should view people as options because when we're rating their looks, we're looking at them as an option.
	I think we should see them as reflections of God's grace.
	Oh my god, this is incoherent.
	Even fucking the most virtuous, godly, the most Christian woman you could ever find would still have a looks preference.
	This is completely horseshit, dog shit, bullshit.
	Even religious women are going to look at a guy and like decide to date him, perhaps on a variety of things, but they're definitely this idea that really Christian women are just like gonna give the super ugly guy a chance because he's super Christian, not fucking coping bullshit.
	Like even religious women care about looks.
	Let's get that.
	That's bullshit.
	What I'm trying to say is the only person or thing that will see you as a 10 is God.
	No other human will see you as a 10.
	Well, I mean, I think a human could see a woman.
	I mean, yeah, another human could see you as a 10 if you really love them that much.
	But I mean, it's very rare for another human to see you as a perfect 10 out of 10 because everybody truly has their flaws.
	If you really look at somebody that deeply, if you look at yourself that deeply in the mirror, you're going to see your own flaws that you don't like, that you want to change, but you will eventually, if you have the right mindset, learn to love them and accept them.
	It's not to fully say that you don't accept your flaws.
	I know I'm average, but it doesn't mean I'm not pretty.
	I think that I am beautiful.
	I think I am pretty.
	And I'm going to tell my children that too.
	But based on who the most attractive woman in the world is, do I have any comparison to her?
	Absolutely not.
	And it's just the reality of it.
	And that's fine.
	It's nothing bad about that.
	It's just the reality of it.
	I just think it's, it's inevitable of us to see a person and to rate them, be like, oh, he's this.
	He's a 10 out of 10.
	He's not a 10 out of 10.
	It's kind of like, I feel like it's a reaction that happens in the brain where, because he, I think he said it, I completely agree with the fact that we don't even control, like, that happens in our brain that we decide, like, oh, this person's attractive to me.
	He's a 10 out of 10.
	This person's not attractive to me.
	He's like a 4 out of 10.
	So at this point, like, I can agree with you.
	I don't think every woman is a 10 out of 10 looks-wise.
	I don't think every man is a 10 out of 10 looks-wise.
	But that's, I find there are some guys who I find attractive that if I tell my friend, I think that guy is cute, they'll look at him and be like, Really?
	Him?
	And I'm like, something about him makes me attracted to you, but I'm not calling him a 10 out of 10.
	Liam Hemsworth is a 10 out of 10.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I guess I don't know.
	I do think that there was some overrating by some of the women at the table here.
	And you were saying something about, what was it?
	There was an issue.
	I'm trying to remember what you were saying.
	You were like, well, now something about, what was it?
	Was it the her with the back?
	No, that's not what I was talking about.
	Okay, well, I'm going to do the segment where I give you guys my rating.
	All right.
	So look, I'm not going to be, even if I had disagreements with you, I'm going to be fair.
	I'm not going to intentionally rate you super low because I don't even think I've had really any super strong disagreements with anybody tonight.
	It's been mostly pretty tame.
	I'll be fair.
	I'll give you some positive characteristics you have.
	I'll give you maybe a negative or two characteristics you have.
	And I will give you, by the way, to be clear, it's on a scale of zero to 10.
	Almost, I don't really think there are any women who are tens.
	I don't think there really are any women who are zeros.
	That would mean you have, there's absolutely nothing redeeming or 10 just I don't think exists, right?
	Maybe AI can make a 10.
	Maybe.
	Even then, who knows?
	But five is average.
	So to be clear, five is average.
	Just want to, and five is not, doesn't mean you're ugly if you're five.
	It means you're average.
	A lot of people will find average attractive.
	Okay.
	You gave yourself a 6.5.
	Do you have lip filler?
	Nope.
	Have you had a lip flip?
	Nope.
	Can you turn that way?
	Not that much?
	A little turn that way a little bit?
	Not too much, though.
	Too much.
	There we go.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Okay, you can look straight.
	That's fine.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	And I'm not going to be doing body because otherwise, whatever.
	I'll just give you face ratings.
	I'll give you guys face ratings, I guess.
	Hmm.
	Sometimes with the negatives, I don't want to go to like the most obvious one because I feel like people are already aware of their own insecurities.
	Yeah.
	How about this?
	I'll rate each of you, but I can give you the sugar-coated version, or I could give you just the full-blown, just completely honest, not pulling any punches.
	Do we get to rate you back?
	Oh, I should, I mean, if you want to.
	Yeah, that would be a fair.
	I think we each can give you our own ratings of yourself.
	Yeah, I think that's a good thing.
	I should also, I guess I'll start with me a little bit.
	So I already gave myself 4.5, 4.5, 4.5.
	Positive blue eyes, tall, 6'1.
	Decent facial symmetry.
	I do good eye area, although lower eye area, kind of weak.
	Need to lose weight.
	I'm fat, dad-bod.
	Big nose.
	Somewhat unbalanced facial thirds.
	Definitely work on skin clarity.
	And yeah, so those are some negatives for me.
	Trying to think what else.
	Weak upper lip, I guess you could say.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's a new one.
	Weak upper lip.
	I mean, I'm white, so me too.
	A lot of white people, not the strongest lips, I guess.
	So, okay, those are my negatives.
	For that reason, I give myself a 4.5.
	Honestly, if I don't lose weight soon, I think I'll probably end up downgrading to 444 across the board.
	Need to lose weight for body and face, though, because when you're gaining weight, you get facial chubbiness.
	I don't know if the jowls are fully fucked.
	You know, I don't know.
	The jowls will be there maybe one day.
	I gotta lose some weight, though, boys.
	I'm fucking fat right now.
	So that's my primary thing.
	Don't worry.
	I won't be that harsh with you guys, though.
	Oh, my God.
	I can be harsh.
	Yeah, yeah, I can be harsh with me, but I'll give you, I won't be that harsh with you guys.
	Okay.
	Okay, so you wanted the brutal thing?
	Go ahead.
	All right.
	So I would say as somebody who myself, I have a big nose.
	I can narrow into people's noses.
	So turn that way again.
	You know, the nose is not, the nose isn't too bad, but there is a bit of a bump.
	You have a mid-nose.
	And it's crooked if you look at it.
	You do have, it is a bit of a bulbous tip.
	There's sagging in the tip a little bit.
	So I think noses have a pretty massive impact on facial aesthetics.
	And I say this as somebody, my nose is big and bulb, all that shit.
	So I get it.
	I would say overall, good facial harmony, good facial symmetry.
	You have nice eyebrows, although I don't know if you like pencil them in a little bit.
	A little bit.
	You have good above average to near striking blue eyes.
	You have from the side, the side profile.
	Show in the audience.
	It's not the best.
	Lips, I want to say slightly, perhaps slightly above average for a white woman.
	Should I get filler?
	No, don't get filler.
	I really want.
	I think filler looks, no offense to any women here who have it.
	I just got one, and I'm not offended by that.
	Do you have lip filler or a lip flip?
	Yeah.
	What is a flip filler?
	I know you have it.
	I know you have it.
	No.
	No.
	Can you turn to the side more?
	I don't think you have lip filler.
	No.
	Turn to the side.
	No, I don't think you have lip filler.
	Yeah, no, lip filler.
	I think even though it, I guess, achieves the fullness, it looks weird.
	You can tell.
	Like, and if you can tell, it creates an uncanny valley.
	I don't recommend it for you.
	I think even if you have really thin lip, I don't, I think the lip filler makes it worse.
	But this is my own aesthetic perspective.
	Yeah.
	Also, in-person versus Instagram.
	So I think lip filler, if we're getting front profile, I think that that will be deceiving.
	But as soon as you turn your head to the side, we can see that shit.
	But even from the front, sometimes you can tell.
	The lip filler aesthetically, I actually think even if you have really thin lips, it's not, it's a negative.
	It's still negative.
	Don't get the lip filler.
	You rated yourself a 6.5.
	I'd probably give you a 5.5 or 6 somewhere around that region.
	Chat, chat, now's your time if you want to also provide a rating.
	I think 6 would probably be a fair rating, maybe a 5.5.
	You, okay.
	All right.
	You gave yourself 10, 10, 10 across the board.
	Very confident answer.
	Let's see here.
	You are wearing quite a bit of makeup and you're wearing fake lashes, which is going to have, which maybe we can do this again at the end of the show when we offer to let everybody take off their makeup.
	So when a woman's wearing a lot of makeup, and I know you're wearing makeup too, quite as much as she's wearing, it does make the face rating a little bit difficult, but I can try to go off other things that makeup doesn't have as much of an impact for.
	But there's quite a substantial amount of makeup in the eye area, which can change massively the appraisal of facial attractiveness.
	I want to take it off.
	Let's see here.
	You have good eyebrows.
	You have above-average to near-striking blue eyes.
	Can you turn that way?
	Green?
	I like the aesthetics of your nose.
	Some looks maxers would say it's maybe slightly on the big side, but I actually think the shape is quite nice.
	And there's not a bump.
	But it is slightly.
	I think it's a great nose.
	But some looks maxer types might be like, oh, it's a bit, whatever.
	You have quite strong above-average lips.
	Good facial harmony, good facial symmetry.
	With the makeup, I'm assuming maybe some skin clarity issues, perhaps.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	I'm not sure though.
	It's a bit hard to tell.
	I actually, this is my own preference, but some people, I actually find like the chubbier cheeks, I think it's actually a plus.
	Some LuxMaxers would be like your cheeks are a little chubby, but I actually think it's a positive, not a negative.
	Hmm.
	What else?
	Good facial thirds.
	I have dimples.
	Your interpupillary distance is a little bit off.
	Turn to the side.
	Sorry.
	You could have a bit slight, perhaps a bit.
	Your lower third, facial third is perhaps a little bit weak.
	Your facial thirds are a little bit off, but otherwise overall pretty strong.
	The makeup is going to skew this a little bit.
	Chat, if you want to give your rating now, I want to say 6.5, perhaps a 7.
	Okay, I mean, you can be honest, but my eyes are not blue, by the way.
	Are what?
	My eyes are not blue.
	No, they're not even green.
	Well, it's a little hard for me to tell, but they are what?
	Blue?
	Gray?
	I have heterochromia, which means that my eyes are a different color.
	One of my eyes is green, and my other eye is hazel green.
	So it's half brown, half.
	Well, you are, the distance is a bit far, but your lies are eye.
	Light, excuse me.
	Light in any case.
	So, yeah.
	Chat.
	I don't know.
	Chat's a little bit all over the place on this one.
	But I would say 6.5 or 7.
	But you are wearing a lot of makeup, so it's hard to fully give an assessment.
	Some people might say that's a bit high.
	Some people might say that's a bit low.
	For you, you said 446.
	I'm actually fine with her rating.
	I think 444 is, I don't know about the six thing or whatever.
	I think 444 is a fair rating.
	You're not wearing any makeup, though.
	So makeup will change somebody's appraisal of attractiveness.
	Oh, I need to give you another negative.
	Sorry here.
	I just.
	Oh, no.
	You were thinking on it.
	Dwelling?
	Yeah, I'd say slight under eye weakness in your under eye area.
	I know.
	That's my like biggest insecurity.
	For you, you also, because I know you have a bit of weakness in your under eye area.
	Although, for your phenotype, I think you actually have really nice brown eyes.
	You have a nice eye area, nice lips.
	No lip filler, right?
	Yeah, strong lips.
	I mean, you and me were.
	Do you want the you can be birdly honest?
	I've heard.
	All right, you and me, look, you're in better shape than I am, but we both, you know, we got to hit those empic.
	We got to hit the weight watchers.
	I'm going to raw dog my diet, though.
	I'm the fuck Ozempic.
	But look, we got to both lose a little weight, and I think you could definitely improve quite substantially if you thin down your face a little bit, probably in the body too.
	But and I say this to somebody, I need to lose weight.
	I'm a fucking fat ass.
	So, you know, but I think you could see pretty massive gains in aesthetics.
	But, yeah.
	But I agree with your assessment.
	I think that's pretty accurate.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	You, you said you were six face and then eight, eight, eight body, but I'm not going to do body.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Lip filler.
	That's just an aesthetic for me.
	So that would downgrade you in my book.
	I just got them done.
	So thank you for noticing.
	Yeah.
	Can you turn your face to the side?
	Other side?
	Okay.
	You have a strong, like strong Ramus, good lower third.
	You can look straight now.
	Or fancy words.
	Have you had a nose job?
	No.
	No nose job.
	Okay.
	Cannot fold.
	No, but I don't want to.
	Nice.
	You are wearing a good amount of eye makeup.
	To be fair, I thought the instructions told us to put on makeup makeup.
	No, well, the instructions say to be makeup ready.
	So that means don't come to the studio.
	We don't have time to give you 20.
	I misunderstood.
	Yeah, it says be makeup ready, so that means don't.
	You can't, we don't have time for you to put on, spend 20 minutes in the bathroom upon arrival putting on makeup.
	I did my makeup in the planes bathroom.
	No, yeah, we're fine with women wearing makeup to the podcast.
	But I don't think there's not specific instructions to wear makeup.
	But we say be makeup ready in the sense don't be spending 20 hours putting on makeup, 20 minutes putting on makeup in the bathroom.
	Let's see.
	Blue eyes.
	Green.
	Green?
	Sorry, it's a little far, so it's a bit hard to tell.
	Okay.
	Eye color is good.
	Nose good.
	Eyebrows good.
	You have a bit of.
	I would say your facial lower third is a bit weak.
	So that basically just means like the, I don't know how to describe it exactly.
	You'll just have to Google it after.
	Yeah, I do, because you're using these terms that I'm like, what do you mean?
	Is that like jaw watches?
	Yeah, basically the lower portion of that.
	Yeah.
	And nice smile, I suppose.
	No.
	Thank you.
	You're a bit pale.
	I pride myself in being very pale.
	I'm going to, you gave yourself a six-face.
	I think I'd give you five, maybe 5.5.
	I'll take it.
	Thank you.
	Average to maybe a bit above average facial aesthetics, I'd say.
	You, let's see, you gave yourself five face average.
	Hmm.
	I don't think you're far off, but what's your like background?
	Are you like German or Swiss or something?
	German and Italian.
	And Italian.
	Strong blue eyes.
	Your eyes are a bit bloodshot, though.
	I don't know if that's.
	I know, I think I have something in them.
	Oh, scoot to the Mary.
	You need to keep an eye on that.
	I think I have something in it, and it really hurts, actually.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, so obviously people have different phenotypes, and they'll like all phenotypes can be attractive, by the way, just to be clear.
	But you're going to have to rate differently, you know, based on these sorts of things.
	So I'm not, when I say like, you can have striking dark eyes or striking brown eyes, for example.
	It's not just because you have blue eyes, but good blue eyes, no lip filler, right?
	No.
	Your upper lip is actually stronger than your lower lip.
	So typically you want the lower lip to be a little bit bigger than the upper lip.
	You want full, is this autistic at this point?
	I don't even know.
	You want both full upper lip and lower lip.
	So the ratio is a bit off, but good.
	Good.
	Can you turn your face that way?
	Strong nose.
	Strong nose.
	Maybe even almost too much on the small side.
	Ever so slightly, ever so slightly.
	That's better than it being too much on the big side.
	strong nose strong eyes strong eyebrows um uh you know it's How old are you again?
	28.
	28?
	I actually think you've aged pretty well, to be honest.
	Thank you.
	I want to say 5.5, maybe 6.
	So I think you underrated your facial attractiveness a little bit.
	Okay, we've got Miss 10 over here.
	Can I have you just skim to the table a little bit?
	All right, we got the most beautiful woman at the table of all, I guess, besides a court, well, according to themselves.
	We got the 10 out of 10 here.
	Okay, so let's see.
	You do have the, I referenced like the silent film era.
	You do have like that sort of like way, way back Hollywood aesthetic to you.
	The sort of striking brown eyes.
	You have a strong eyes, strong brown eyes.
	Do you have a slight lazy eye?
	I think so, yeah.
	It's something I've had to like try and control before.
	Slightly.
	If I like get too tired.
	It's slightly.
	That wouldn't have a major.
	It's very minor, though.
	Very minor.
	So I don't think.
	Do you want the full-blown punches full?
	All right.
	I always try to be somewhat nice, though.
	Let's see here.
	Very striking eyes.
	Very striking eyes.
	Your lower third's a bit weak.
	I don't know if you're overlining with your lipstick a little bit.
	No lip filler, right?
	No lip filler.
	Slightly above average lips, I want to say.
	I would give you, like, the lips are a bit on above average side.
	Can you turn that way?
	A bit of an indent on the chin, which I think typically for female attractiveness.
	I think also not the best for male males, but I think typically going to be assessed as worse when seen in women.
	Obviously, as somebody who has a big nose, you probably know, I would say, probably in terms of a flaw, I'd point out the nose, right?
	So you have a bit of.
	The problem is my nose makes a lot of money.
	A lot of money?
	Okay, yeah, I mean, I know some of the models, they like the alien look or whatever.
	The catwalk girls.
	I'm not saying you look like an alien, but sometimes the compliment isn't that.
	The high fashion aesthetic.
	What are you doing, Merrick?
	The high fashion.
	By the way, it shouldn't be there.
	Like, put it on another tab if you can, okay?
	We shouldn't be showing that.
	So I would say probably the nose is going to throw off the facial harmony of your face.
	Again, I say this as somebody who it fucks up the facial harmony of my face.
	I have a big nose.
	I've got a hump.
	It's big.
	It's bulbous.
	So I would say you also have the same kind of some of the same detriment there as it relates to the nose.
	What else?
	I think your lower, you have good jaw, but your lower third, I think, is a little bit weak.
	What does that mean for all of us that are confusing?
	So in terms of facial proportions, like for example, it's not exact, but you'd kind of want it's not exact, but so like facial thirds.
	So basically from your chin to the bottom of your nose, or some people might say the lips, and then lips to the basically the center eye or low eye, and then eye to forehead.
	So you have unequal facial thirds.
	So I think your bottom third, basically the area.
	A little bit smaller.
	Yeah, the area between your bottom lip and your chin is a bit on the small side proportionally.
	So the proportions are slightly weak, I would say, in that dimension.
	good eyebrows, um, uh, so okay.
	The rating.
	The rating.
	Let's see here.
	you gave yourself a 10 in terms of facial attractiveness uh i think i would give you
	i think some people are going to criticize me for this but i would give you uh it's actually a bit hard i think i would give you a six or 6.5 probably leaning to 6.5 but some people might say i'm overrating you a little bit um so So, yeah.
	Thank you so much.
	You're welcome.
	All right, you.
	Okay.
	What did you give yourself a four?
	Four, four, four across the board.
	Okay.
	Well, I'll just come.
	My immediate, without like getting into the analysis breakdown, my immediate knee-jerk reaction is I think you actually have like pretty strong potential.
	I think you have a solid base.
	I think you maybe underrated yourself a little bit, although you face the same problem that I have, is we both need to gain a or it's not gain weight.
	I think lose weight, lose weight a little bit.
	I think it's impacting your facial aesthetics a little bit.
	I think you'd actually be, You might actually, if you lost a bit of weight, you might actually have the most aesthetic face at the table.
	You have striking, striking eyes, although you are wearing the.
	Is that just mascara?
	Or do you have the extensions?
	Extensions.
	You are wearing extensions.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Can you turn that way?
	Nose, slight, slightly weak nose.
	Slightly weak nose.
	You have the lip filler, disavow.
	Not becoming of a Christian woman, I guess.
	Just do a straight face for me, not smiling.
	I can't now.
	Okay.
	I'll try.
	Hmm.
	I think the primary thing for you would be, I think you could ascend, though.
	If you lost weight, I think you could potentially be in terms of facial aesthetics, you could be pretty damn good.
	I think.
	I don't know.
	I agree.
	I think you have a really beautiful face.
	You're welcome.
	I think, yeah, so me and you, we're going to hit the gym.
	We're going to hit Weight Watchers.
	Oh, my God, actually.
	I have my shirts of Fitness Trainer.
	So I actually have very low body fat in terms of working out.
	I'm just, I'm extremely solid.
	Like, everything is very solid.
	I normally wouldn't ask this, but are you comfortable standing up?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	We'll do an assessment.
	Can I move the mic really quick?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait, literally, yeah.
	I can see it in your arms.
	It's hard for me to do an assessment here.
	You're wearing all black.
	You're wearing baggy pants.
	I can pull up my Instagram if needed for my gym pictures.
	I mean, you know, but I agree.
	Have you done body composition?
	What do you mean by that?
	Or where they tell you your body.
	So I understand that you're athletic and muscular, but I mean.
	No, I agree with you.
	I do think I need to lose weight, especially my face.
	Oh, okay, so wait, what do we...
	I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
	What are we debating on then?
	Well, I'm just saying that I do hit the gym.
	That was my point.
	Well, yeah, you could be a weightlifter as a woman, but still be fat.
	I'm not saying you're fat, by the way.
	But what I'm saying is, is that just because you go to the gym and strength train as a woman doesn't mean that in terms of maximum, like looks maxing yourself, you have to be a certain body fat percentage to maximize body attractiveness and facial attractiveness.
	Yeah, I could definitely lose mass in a lot of places.
	So I agree.
	Okay, cool.
	In terms of rating, what did you give yourself?
	Did you say 444?
	Okay, well, I kind of have to give you a rating where you're at currently.
	I actually think you could maybe get to six or seven if you were like maximized in terms of like losing some of the weight a little bit.
	I think you underrated yourself though.
	You gave yourself a four.
	I'd honestly probably in terms of facial attractiveness, I think five for now.
	And then if you were to lose weight, you'd probably could get into six or seven, I think.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have the eight here who's returning to the table.
	I need to blast through this.
	I'm taking way too long to do all these.
	Okay, the eight.
	I'm just going to look at the TV, actually.
	Can you look at the camera over there?
	Actually, it's better if I see you in person.
	That's not fair because the camera changes shit.
	Let's see.
	Can you turn that way?
	Strong nose.
	Turn back.
	You have slight negative canthel tilts for your eyes.
	You have a nice eye color, but the negative canthel tilt will overall probably create a negative, slightly negative overall assessment of the eye area.
	Nice lips.
	You have a weak lower third.
	And what's going on back there?
	You gave yourself this eight.
	I think I'd give you a six.
	Hey, don't shoot the messenger here, okay?
	Oh, okay.
	That's like the best rating that he's given to the whole table.
	Is it?
	No.
	No, what did I give you?
	Wait, you gave her a 6.5.
	I forgot.
	He gave me a 7.
	Oh, yeah, you did get a 7.
	Okay.
	and then you.
	I think I'd give you...
	I think I'd give you 4.5.
	Yeah, so you overrated yourself a little bit.
	I think you gave yourself a 5 average.
	I don't think, you know, I'm just saying you're, I think, generally, I'd say you're average-looking.
	But I think 4.5.
	And that's it.
	Boom.
	Well, for that segment, anyway.
	Wait, you didn't even say anything nice or mean about it.
	Oh, sorry.
	Aw, like a nicer motion.
	Harder.
	Aww.
	I just want to move on.
	I don't want to move on.
	It's fine.
	I already took way too long for this segment.
	So I don't know.
	You wanted to rate me?
	Go ahead.
	You can be brutal.
	That's fine if you want.
	I feel some of you will be vindictive, though, to get revenge or whatever.
	No, no, no.
	Not vindictive.
	But I do agree with the fact that you just mostly around the face because I can't tell.
	I was just seeing from your sweater.
	But I'd give you a four with the hopes that you lose a little bit in the cheeks.
	Yeah.
	The jowls are coming in.
	Yeah.
	Pretty much anything y'all could say, I already know.
	Like, I already know all my discs.
	So that's why I wasn't vindictive.
	So.
	Yeah, I get it.
	I get it.
	Yeah.
	Gotta lose some weight.
	Are you insecure about those things or just you just notice them as like fact?
	Am I insecure?
	About looks, like specific.
	My play.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Am I insecure?
	It feels more like he's aware of the like.
	I think I'm just going on.
	I think I'm secure, but I acknowledge the flaws.
	Yeah.
	I'd say I'm real.
	Yeah.
	Just being real.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Ah, that was fun.
	I hope I didn't hurt anybody's feelings, but no.
	Chat, was I. Yo, chat, what do you think?
	Was I generous?
	Was I kind of spun on?
	Wait, why can't we see the chat?
	Because that would be a really bad idea.
	No, no, no.
	That would be a bad idea.
	I saw one of them and they called me a mud lover.
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, I'm not gonna go there, but it's a bit racial, so I'm not really gonna figure out what they mean.
	You probably shouldn't read that, though, to be honest.
	But I could like, I mean, mud lover is so mean.
	Well, I didn't say that.
	Your fans are quite opinionated and racist.
	How is that?
	Well, I mean.
	To call somebody a mud lover who's dating a black guy, that's racist.
	That's objectionable.
	We're not really going to linger on that topic.
	But just because one person in the chat, by the way, like any live chat you go to, people are going to be saying certain things.
	And now, congratulations, you've just invoked them to say it, even if they don't even give a fuck.
	But I don't think because one or two or even a handful of people are saying things in the chat, that that would be like emblematic of the you were saying the chat is racist in general.
	No, I didn't say in general, but one can assume that that's what I meant.
	But from the comments that made it through, they were just quite interesting at times to read.
	I'm not offended by any of them.
	I hope no one is offended by mud lover.
	My changing character is black.
	Let's just.
	I feel like the platforms are probably going to have an issue with that term, so why don't we just avoid saying it?
	My bad.
	I would say just don't take it.
	I didn't put it up.
	Somebody super chatted it.
	And to be fair, super chatters, even if we don't agree with the words they're saying or whatever, whatever.
	Yeah, I'm fine.
	Everyone's fine with their opinion.
	Let's see.
	We're moving on to let's see here.
	Somebody was saying something about the vibe.
	something that you were saying with that guy who you'd spent like 11 days with in a row which is crazy I mean, but you acknowledge that that was not a really ideal situation.
	No, I'm not saying you're crazy.
	That's just like a crazy scenario.
	At least in the sense that I would not want to spend like, I don't know, you I don't know.
	Maybe if she's really great.
	Even then, though, it's like not like right off the bat.
	Like, just met on like it's too much, you know.
	But anyway.
	No, that's the thing.
	We hadn't just met.
	We'd known each other.
	We've known each other for like three years.
	But knowing each other is not like being next to each other.
	That's very true.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, it was very overwhelming.
	Yeah.
	We both really.
	My social battery was just.
	Yeah, it's kind of what happened to me.
	I literally at one point was like, I looked at him and I was like, I need me time.
	I need you to go over there.
	Please sit over there.
	Tabitha, we're going to go to some of your notes here really quick.
	Just curious, can I say your last name or do you prefer not?
	No, that's fine.
	Okay, I was just curious.
	Your last name is Chang.
	Yes.
	My husband was adopted by Asian parents?
	Yeah, Hispanic, Asian.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because your husband's white, isn't he?
	Yeah, yeah, because I was thinking, well, maybe the husband's, I looked at your Instagram and your husband's white, so I was like, where did the chain come from?
	Yeah, it's really funny.
	Every time we go somewhere or check into a hotel, everyone's like, you are not what we were expecting.
	Wow, that's interesting.
	Your white husband was adopted by Asian parents.
	Well, one, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Hispanic, Asian, whatever.
	Okay, let's.
	You disagree bowing to your spouse.
	You disagree with that.
	That's why you're disagreeing with me.
	I know you've gone a lot into that.
	It's just to me, bowing is more of a cultural thing.
	Half my family's Thai.
	You know, every time I meet one of them or meet someone new in that culture, when I was in Thailand, you bow as respect.
	To me, it's more cultural than it is to my husband, you know?
	Okay.
	Is anybody here familiar with the bow segment?
	No.
	I saw like a clip of it or something, but what does that even mean?
	Like bowing to me?
	Just maybe I should wait until everybody's like back from the table or whatever before we play it.
	So I'm going to just put that on pause just momentarily, the bow segment.
	Let me just write down bow and then we'll get into it as soon as everybody's returned.
	Here.
	Does anybody else have a different disagreement that we can get into while we're waiting for that?
	Bowing.
	Oh, that was you.
	No, no, no, no.
	You disagree with me on marriage?
	Is that correct?
	Only because I don't, why don't you, or I kind of know the answer, but explain again, why are you against marriage for yourself?
	For myself.
	Yeah.
	I mean, primarily the potential financial consequences of divorce.
	That would be, that's kind of my primary thing.
	Then just pick the right woman who you will stay with.
	This is such a terrible argument, but okay.
	Yeah.
	This is such a okay.
	So of the people who do get married, we do know that I believe it's the majority of marriages end in divorce.
	So I think it's 50% of marriages end in divorce.
	More than that now.
	It might be that.
	Look, I'm going to be charitable.
	And I.
	So, okay.
	First-time divorces or first-time marriages, the likelihood of divorce is lower among them, although it's still strikingly high.
	So what ends up kind of skewing, again, I'm going to be fair and charitable, what ends up skewing these divorce statistics is people who've been married two, three, four times.
	These people are way like if you marry a second time, you're way more likely to get divorced.
	Married a third time, way more likely to get divorced.
	First-time marriages have a better success rate.
	However, I find it still, I don't know if it's over 50, it might be 30, 40, who knows?
	I still don't think that this is an acceptable risk that I'm willing to take.
	So if somebody, if I was going to go skydiving and somebody told me there was even a 3% chance of my parachute not working, there's not a chance in hell I'm going to go skydiving.
	In this case, as relates to even first-time marriages, I think it's 30%, 40%.
	Maybe somebody in the chat can tell me what the actual number is.
	It's really high.
	So you say find a really good woman.
	Do you think that the people who are getting married and who do end up getting divorced, do you think going into that marriage, they're thinking, this is not the person for me.
	This is not a person I love.
	This is not the right person?
	No, they're probably thinking in that moment, this is the person for me.
	This is the right person.
	I love this person.
	So we know things change.
	So is your thing just not wanting to get married because you don't want to get divorced or because you don't want to get divorced and have things taken from you from the divorce, like money?
	Well, yeah, so if you get married, that is basically creates a contract, right?
	So in these circumstances, yeah, there would be financial risks involved.
	Prenup.
	Doesn't matter.
	But what if you can, you can't have a prenup signed of like, or written out of like, she takes nothing that was yours?
	That, like, isn't that possible?
	Well, there's a couple things.
	Especially, I'm in trouble with the kind of dynamic I would be looking for.
	So I'll explain a bit about what I'd be looking for in terms of a dynamic.
	I'm doing, I don't really reveal specifics, but let's just say I'm doing very well financially.
	And in the type of relationship dynamic I would want, I would be desirous of, well, I'm not 100% opposed to dating a woman who has a job or career or makes her own money.
	I just don't care.
	So, like, I'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A.
	I'll date a girl who works who doesn't even have a job.
	Her income, her job, her career don't matter to me.
	I'm prepared to fully financially take care of everything.
	However, if I get married, this would put me in a bit of a precarious position.
	Now, the issue that I have isn't necessarily a man-woman issue.
	It's a breadwinner issue.
	So, whoever's the breadwinner, that gives the other person in the relationship massive amounts of leverage in the event of a divorce.
	So, I don't know the specifics, but my understanding is if you're like the primary breadwinner and a divorce is initiated, not even factoring in what you might have to pay them, you also, the divorce process is quite expensive.
	So, you have to pay for your lawyer and you have to pay for their lawyer.
	So, it's not just, oh, they're going to, your wife wants a divorce.
	She's going to have to take care of the lawyer.
	No, you have to pay for her lawyer if you're in a situation like mine, perhaps.
	What if the woman earns more than you?
	So, then you don't have to worry about that financial money.
	Oh, if she's a billionaire, you best believe she's getting proposed to.
	Trust me.
	Then I'm fine with marriage.
	Then I'm totally fine with marriage.
	And then there's definitely no prenup there.
	However, although a woman who's a billionaire is probably going to be financially savvy enough, of course, I would never leave a woman who's a billionaire and I'd never divorce her.
	You said no prenup, but what if she wants you to sign the prenup?
	Then would you not marry her?
	Hold on.
	So hold on.
	I'm going to do what women do.
	It's going to be a complete roll over.
	Oh, you don't love me?
	This is, hold on.
	This is, this is for life.
	But what if you, what if, okay, what if you are, in your case, what if you're the rich man and you found the woman and she does everything for you.
	She cooks for you, cleans for you, and you bring her this prenup and you.
	Why would I bring her a prenup?
	I'm not getting married.
	No, but if, let's say, you, let's say you actually like want to marry this woman and you bring her this prenup and she doesn't throw a fit and she's like, okay, I'll sign it because she actually loves you that much.
	Like that rare possibility that happens and she's not like, oh my God, you don't love me?
	Like, do you think that can happen or do you not believe that can happen?
	That she would want that she would want to marry you and sign the prenup if you.
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	It's logically possible that a woman who would otherwise be interested in me and I would be interested in her, she has a deal breaker, which is marriage.
	Like, she really wants to get married.
	That's probably not going to work out because I'm steadfast and stubborn on this.
	It is possible that there could be a woman so remarkable, so attractive, so possessing all the things that I care about that I would, it is possible I could be willing to get married.
	If she were to sign a prenup?
	No, no, no.
	Even if she's all those characteristics.
	What's going on, Dee?
	Oh, okay.
	Gotcha.
	It's possible, but I just wouldn't, I don't see the point of it.
	She can just defer to me.
	I mean because I would date a submissive woman.
	I mean if she loves, she's gonna defer to me on this.
	If she love, if she loves you that much, I mean I do agree with you she wouldn't need to get married to you to right?
	So yeah well, I mean I just, I ultimately just think you could try to frame the leverage both ways.
	It's like, well, she won't stay with you if you don't get well okay, I won't stay with her if we don't get married.
	Yeah, but in terms of the economic risk of marriage, whoever the breadwinner is and a woman could be the breadwinner, so women can also encounter this.
	Although there's a couple differences here, I think women feel way more entitled to men's money than the reverse.
	So even if the woman's like wealthy, to be fair, like there are women who end up paying alimony and do this men are far less likely to go after child support.
	Men are less likely to go after alimony men, I'm to be clear, men do go after these things, but men are much more likely to be like, we're done, don't want anything to do with you, I don't feel entitled to anything, you're the breadwinner.
	Whatever we're done, wipe your hands clean women.
	They have an entitlement.
	They feel entitled to his money.
	Not all women, but they it's more common among women, that's true.
	But also, even regardless of what you, you think, once you get lawyers involved and you're gonna need lawyers for marriage, for divorce, excuse me you're gonna need uh lawyers for the divorce process.
	You could be the most well-intentioned man or woman dating a breadwinner, whatever.
	You get your lawyer in the picture who has a financial incentive because, you know, based on the settlement of whatever uh, I think they can get some, you know, extra portion.
	Uh, lawyers are very convincing.
	Lawyers are practiced in the art of influence and persuasion.
	Even if you're a good intentioned woman, even if you're a good intentioned man, is your lawyer and lawyers are convincing.
	You put a naive woman in front of a fucking high-powered divorce attorney and you think, and she's no longer under the influence of her husband, now she's under the influence of her divorce attorney.
	A naive woman it's her first divorce is going to get completely fucking bulldozed by an attorney.
	The attorney's like, whoa whoa, hold on, you're entitled to this.
	He needs to give you xyz.
	Even the good intentioned woman who's like inclined to be like, wipe her hands clean nah, she's gonna get.
	The lawyer is gonna be like, nah, we're gonna get you money.
	Oh, think about you know, think about xyz, she'll be persuaded, she'll be convinced.
	So it's.
	It's a difficult situation, not always, because if I was in that position I would not be convinced, I wouldn't be persuaded.
	Okay well, you might say that.
	And then circumstances, even bro, there's women will, will tell their husbands, I would never go after you for alimony, I would never go after you for child support.
	She gets pregnant, boom 18 years child.
	Do you just have trust issues?
	Why would it have anything to do with trust issues?
	I don't understand.
	I actually strongly believe that.
	Who hurt you?
	Weak argument.
	Weak argument.
	No.
	Well, to me, it just sounds like you're not even totally against marriage.
	You just need the right circumstances or someone who's financially just equal to you, I guess.
	I suppose.
	But I mean, if I, well, look, here's what I believe.
	I can be with someone.
	All the things that you can have in marriage, I can have that absent in marriage.
	I can stay with you forever.
	We can have kids.
	We can live together.
	We can have a family.
	We can love each other.
	We can care about each other.
	I can do an advanced health care directive.
	There's some marriage confers some benefits, but I don't think those benefits, oh, tax purposes, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	Healthcare circumstances, there are some circumstances like if you were to die and, you know, related to your estate and how money flows after you die, but then I'm dead.
	Who gives?
	Well, I shouldn't say who gives a fuck.
	Obviously, you want, you know, people have wills and for a reason, you want your money to go to the right people, whatever.
	But I think those are really minimal compared to the risk of what happens in divorce.
	It seemed like you wanted to come in on something.
	Yeah, I was wondering if you had ever thought about, okay, well, I guess I should proposition this to you.
	Sure.
	I know, I will.
	I know a couple that is a very, very wealthy man, multi-multi-multi-millionaire.
	And him and his wife actually, well, they've been together 25 years.
	They have two kids.
	And come to find out they're not actually married.
	They have a contract that they renew every year.
	They're not legally married.
	They just renew whatever contract and they have different terms that they discuss and go over every year.
	And so it's almost like more romantic because they're like forcing to commit and like come together every year and say, okay, like, do we still want to do this?
	Basically.
	And then they both have an out if they want out.
	And the guy's the breadwinner?
	The guy's the wealthy one?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, this.
	I mean, I'm assuming the contract is she's not getting nothing, right?
	I mean, I'm sure she's getting.
	No, I mean, she, I mean, she had his, his kids.
	He wanted like two kids.
	That was a part of it.
	And then obviously, like, they live together.
	They still live in the same place, but they haven't actually like been together in years, except to make their children.
	And that's it.
	It's very interesting.
	But you could do something like that, you know, a little contract or whatever.
	It's in essence basically a marriage.
	Like in terms of the legal ramifications, I don't know the details of their, whatever they have.
	I don't know the full details, but just a contract with who I'm with.
	No.
	I wouldn't do it.
	No.
	That would only benefit her, wouldn't it?
	How would it benefit me?
	I don't know.
	Honestly, because I don't know what their terms look like.
	Well, I mean, what I would infer is if she leaves, he pays her money.
	What other contract would there be?
	He's the breadwinner.
	He's the rich one.
	If she leaves or he leaves, she gets money in either scenario, I'm assuming.
	Maybe.
	Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
	No.
	No.
	No, you don't want to do that.
	What if you really cared about the person and she hasn't been working for you?
	If we split and maybe it's my decision, maybe even if it's her decision, I would perhaps voluntarily support her voluntarily.
	Until she gets on her feet, if perhaps.
	Perhaps.
	Perhaps.
	If things otherwise if I left her and we had kids and she didn't work, I would volunt I leave her and she's not doing anything wrong.
	I voluntarily leave her.
	I can't imagine why I would.
	But under these circumstances, I would feel comfortable voluntarily helping her out.
	But as soon as you introduce a contract, oh, she cheated on me.
	Now I got to pay her alimony.
	What?
	That's what marriage is.
	You get married, your wife cheats on you, you got to pay her $10,000 a month?
	Nah, I'm okay with that.
	I'm not going to get married.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	But I can be with a woman for my entire life.
	I can have kids with a woman.
	So it's just the legal thing.
	Yeah, it's primary.
	It's primarily legal.
	I just don't see there's no point to it.
	Yeah.
	What's the point?
	Would you like have a wedding, but not sign a legal document so then like you come together and agree for life?
	Yeah, let's say I mean, I'm not sure if a Christian woman would date me, given my current belief.
	I say I don't believe yet, which means I'm leaving room open for there being the possibility of a development of belief.
	If I, a Christian woman who was fantastic and I liked her, she liked me, and to satisfy something for her, she wanted to get married like in a church and this had no legal ramifications.
	Sure.
	I don't really like the wedding though.
	Yeah.
	It's not for everyone.
	It's a waste of money.
	Yeah.
	We did a really, really small one.
	It's great.
	Look, if it's the way to do it, if it's small and a mod, like modest expenditure, then, yeah, sure.
	But some extravagant wedding, and it's like, I would think to myself, hmm, this is one day we can spend that money.
	We can get, do something for our kids, our kids' future, our future, travel, a car.
	Like, I'm not going to.
	You know, I don't know.
	These people who spend $50,000, $100,000 more on a wedding, that money can be better spent elsewhere.
	I'd rather put into fucking crypto than spend that shit on a wedding.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Do you have more thoughts?
	This is your one that you disagreed with.
	To me, it's what I said.
	Like, you're down, I guess, for marriage as long as the circumstances were right.
	So I guess, like, all right, that's good enough for me.
	Well, I mean, the hypothetical would be like either she's, I don't know, perfect, which doesn't exist, or she's, like, way wealthier than I am.
	Then you best believe I want to be.
	Way wealthier, like way wealthier.
	Not even.
	I don't know.
	She's a billionaire.
	Not even like if she earned equal to you.
	What would be equal to you?
	He doesn't want to give it together.
	I still think that there would be financial, even if we earn the same amount of money, I still think that there can be financial consequences because you still get the lawyers involved and then unwinding, the divorce process.
	I don't know.
	Then there would still be stuff to fight about.
	I don't know.
	Even if you make the same amount of money, it would still be expensive to get a divorce.
	So how much more?
	Like, don't tell me number.
	Tell me a percentage more.
	I don't know.
	10% more.
	I just don't see the point, though.
	I don't see the point.
	But you just said you were down for it if those circumstances were correct.
	Oh, yeah, if she's a billionaire, yeah, we can.
	Billionaire is so over the top.
	Hey, Mackenzie Bezos, what's the best?
	Is there no less reasonable number for you?
	She's old, but I'll.
	So it's a billion dollars.
	Exactly.
	I'll still get with her.
	I'm just saying.
	She's kind of a babe.
	Yeah.
	A little bit.
	Gilf.
	Can't believe.
	Honestly, I'm not going to lie.
	Like the replacement?
	I mean, look, who knows the deep, like, just looks-wise, though?
	I don't know.
	I don't like the plastic thing, you know?
	She's a bit plastic.
	Do you guys know who I'm talking about?
	The Sanchez, what's her name?
	Oh, Lauren Sanchez.
	Laura Sanchez, I think.
	Is that her name?
	I have no idea what her name is.
	His new wife is what I know.
	Apparently, she's really smart.
	Oh, wow.
	But who cares about that?
	She's so smart.
	I really don't fuck her.
	Do you think men care about that?
	I guess for their wife.
	Let me clarify.
	It would be nice if they cared a little bit about it.
	In terms of your attractiveness, it doesn't matter.
	You don't think intelligence.
	You don't think intelligence makes a woman more attractive?
	No.
	Really?
	I don't.
	You don't think you can have like a conversation?
	Well, to be clear, I think intelligence is a positive trait.
	And in terms of for the benefit of your children, because I think intelligence to some degree is genetic, it would confer benefits to the children.
	It is a positive trait.
	But like in terms of that raw, like no.
	I think whatever she did to get Jeff Bezos was very smart.
	Who?
	Lauren Sanchez.
	Lauren Sanchez.
	Well, the first wife or the second one?
	The second one.
	The current one.
	What she did?
	Yeah, however, what she had marriage, yeah, that's really good.
	Oh, yeah, whatever she did.
	You're not even for marriages.
	Well, yeah, but I don't think you should be like breaking up a marriage or a relationship.
	She's strategic.
	I never said I was for it.
	I just said she's strategic.
	Okay.
	But I mean, yeah, men just don't really care about that, to be honest.
	I mean, I said on my pre-notes, I don't think I can convince you, so, but I still think, okay.
	No, no, I'm responding to like the intelligence thing.
	I disagree with that.
	Men don't care, men don't care.
	I think they might not think they care, but biologically, they want their children to be smart.
	Yeah, I said that.
	Yeah, so I think attraction in itself is kind of like the whole point of it is to have.
	Well, here, let me propose a question to the women on the panel.
	If a man had a choice between a woman who was 10 out of 10, but had a slightly below average IQ, not like retarded, but like below average.
	So what's the average?
	100, is it?
	100?
	What's the average?
	I don't know.
	Let's just say, I mean, I could even say like she has an average IQ, but she's a 10.
	Or he can date like a fucking Mensa genius woman who's like a 6 out of 10.
	Or maybe even a 7 out of 10.
	99% of men are taking.
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't want to give an answer.
	What do you guys think?
	starting with you into the mic um i definitely think men will choose the more attractive woman than the like the less one with the smarter simply because well actually what i think men look for is like a female best friend I think most relationships work best.
	Best friend.
	With like their, my husband's my best friend.
	And I don't know, like, if you're when I think about it that way, like in terms of attractiveness versus intelligence, I mean, you have you can have below average best friends, and that's like intelligence.
	That's fine.
	But, like, so in that case, well, then, yeah, the attractiveness is the most important because that's your partner.
	With the drastic difference with what you said, I think, yes, men would definitely choose like the slightly below-average intelligence, 10 out of 10, for sure.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Definitely looks over intelligence.
	I also agree.
	I agree with that.
	I think a man feels, I agree, but because I think a man sometimes does not like to be one-upped when it comes to knowing something.
	They want to be the caretaker, they want to know everything.
	And sometimes when it starts off with attractiveness, and then once the woman opens her mouth, sometimes they're like, actually, I don't know about all that.
	Well, I think you can be so stupid, you're a liability.
	Yeah, no, that's not a good idea.
	Like, there are women who are like, even if they're really beautiful, well, I don't even know if it's necessarily about intelligence, but it's also would be about like vanity or hmm.
	I'm not quite sure how to describe it actually.
	I'll continue.
	Probably the 10 out of 10.
	What do you think?
	I would also say, yeah, I agree on the they would pick the 10 out of 10.
	Hello.
	In your example, I do agree.
	I'm going to give you a counter example, though.
	If there were two 10 out of 10 looks and one was stupid or one was below average IQ and one was intelligent, I do feel he would pick the one that's more intelligent.
	I think I would generally agree.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So if you have like two women who are equivalent looks, one's stupid, one's intelligent.
	Yes.
	Yes, I tend to agree.
	I would tend to agree.
	Really quick on your thing, though.
	You said that the guy doesn't want to be like.
	But I also think this goes the other way too.
	Men are okay dating women who are less intelligent than them.
	I think it's real tough for a woman to date a guy who's less intelligent than them.
	I can agree with that.
	So it kind of goes like both ways a little bit.
	Yeah.
	So it starts off with the level of attractiveness and then you get to know the person.
	Yeah.
	But I think though, for your example that you gave, I do sometimes think intelligence depends what we mean by intelligence.
	Yeah.
	But sometimes intelligence isn't always a good thing.
	That might seem like, so I tend to generally agree, but I also think there.
	It depends.
	Can I rephrase your question or a question involving this?
	Do you think that stupidity makes women less attractive?
	Stupidity.
	I guess it depends what we mean, like how stupid, depends what we mean by stupid.
	Just like a total dumb blonde ditzy, doesn't know common sense.
	I think some people might actually find that endearing.
	But I think it depends on the scope and the scale of how intelligent or how stupid or what are the liabilities here.
	Because I think, for example, I think highly intelligent people sometimes, perhaps through no fault of their own, open themselves to mental illness in ways that somebody who is, let's say, simple doesn't have the same level of existential dread.
	And I'm trying to think how I would best frame this.
	I think sometimes very intelligent people how do I there's there's a psychological term for this, but I don't know what it's evading me.
	Like, you know that this idea of torture genius?
	Like somebody who's so intelligent, who's, but sometimes when you're highly intelligent, you can be a bit in your head.
	Overthinking.
	You can be a bit in your head.
	What do they say?
	Like, oh man, there's this great saying, like, I mean, it's like you're not able to communicate with anyone because you're too smart.
	I'm trying to think what it is, though.
	Like, along the lines of ignorance is bliss.
	A little bit.
	A little bit.
	Like, but I'm trying to, there's a specific term for it.
	I do think sometimes highly, highly intelligent people.
	Well, I think really intelligent people gotta be alone.
	I think really smart, high IQ intelligent people can sometimes be inflicted with self-doubt.
	Whereas I think like dumb people are so fucking confident sometimes that there's something that there.
	Not to say that highly intelligent people can't be confident, but I think that people who err more on like perhaps who have lower intelligence, can be more confident in themselves.
	Whereas somebody who's highly intelligent is more likely to be very introspective.
	Not to say they're introverted, but they're more likely to be introspective and be more perhaps thoughtful.
	And that can be a good thing, but it can also be like lead anxiety.
	I don't know.
	You can be anxious or you can be like overthinker and these sorts of things.
	Yeah.
	Sometimes like, I don't know.
	And some of y'all really intelligent women, you're just neurotic.
	Like you're just like fucking upper, like analyzing shit.
	Oh my God.
	Whereas like a simple woman, you know, she's just a little simple, you know.
	She looks past it.
	She's not like fucking overanalyzing though.
	Oh my God.
	I don't know.
	Some of y'all smart women got anxiety.
	I don't know.
	Chat, what do you think?
	Chat, what do you think?
	Am I kind of on to something or am I full of shit?
	Full of shit.
	I'm full of shit.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	I'm trying to gauge what your type is.
	Because you want submissive, but big labyrinth.
	I'm so frustrated.
	Okay, besides that, but not everyone can see that until, you know.
	Yeah.
	I only date women with giants.
	It looks so nice.
	Is that like something you walk up and you're like, yes, I can tell you after it looks like that?
	I don't even want to be like jumping to bed with her.
	And she's got like small labies.
	Is it just like?
	No, it's not a deal breaker, but look, innies are nice and these are great.
	Okay.
	What does that even mean?
	An innie or an outie?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Where the earmarks are.
	No beef versus inner lady.
	No roast beef.
	No roast beef.
	Let's not use roast.
	We got a butterfly wings.
	How about that?
	Butterfly wings.
	Personality and outward looks that we can all see, not what we would see if we were.
	Like, what's your type?
	What's my type?
	I mean, good looking is good.
	What is good looking for you?
	Because there was a question you asked, like, what's my height and what's the minimum height that I would date a guy?
	I gave my answer.
	What's your I don't really care.
	Okay.
	She can be because you're 6'1, so it doesn't.
	Well, no, but I'm saying, like, I think overall men don't care all that much about height.
	They definitely care way less than women do.
	But there are some men who might be like, oh, I wouldn't date a girl taller than me.
	I'm like, no, I don't care.
	In fact, I think that would be, I mean, in terms of like, for your kids, then, yeah, that's a benefit for your kids.
	They'll be taller.
	Like, so I would date a woman taller than me, and I wouldn't have some sort of like insecurity, like, oh, she's taller than me.
	Oh, I feel insecure.
	I don't care.
	I don't know how.
	I don't know if a taller woman than you would be necessarily super submissive.
	That's like an Amazonian woman right there.
	Should be like, I think height is corner.
	I'm super submissive.
	I mean, I don't think you're completely wrong.
	Like, I think in terms of physicality, like, sure, there is a component of, like, if the guy is more like physically dominant, for example, then that can confer some ability to be submissive.
	But a woman could be submissive to a man who's, I guess, smaller than her, actually.
	But I think you're onto something there.
	I've been telling you throughout our conversation, I've been trying to gauge like what kind of like person you would be into.
	So I'm getting submissive.
	She has to be a simple.
	You mentioned a large labia.
	Large labia.
	Attractive.
	Simp.
	And she has to.
	Oh, we have to do the battle.
	You like your thirds to be every three days.
	If she's attractive.
	If she's attractive, she's attractive.
	I'm also aware that, and look, I think we have to look at the totality, right?
	So like I'm an average or I guess technically below average looking guy.
	So like I'm not like holding out for some fucking supermodel.
	I realize that I, you know, that's probably not on the cards for me, although, hey, you know, you never know.
	I'm not going to turn one down, let's just say.
	But submissive, simp, pleasant.
	Acts of service is big.
	She has to do acts of service.
	Yeah.
	And.
	Also, guys, remember, she has to respond right away, but he can respond right now.
	Oh, I'm joking.
	Responds within three business days.
	But pleasant.
	Like, I cannot do the like toxic, bratty, sarcastic, high-friction, high-conflict stuff.
	I won't tolerate it.
	So that's going to be a major issue.
	Some women think it's like cute to be like, to be clear, when I say sarcastic, like if you're making a joke and it's a bit sarcastic, like that's not an issue.
	But if you're being like sarcastic in a way that's like retributive, that's sort of like, I don't know, like you being passive aggressive.
	No, I don't tolerate that.
	I don't tolerate disrespect.
	So that's going to be a major.
	I mean, it's not going to be a major issue.
	I'm just not going to date you.
	So I can't do high conflict, high friction relationships.
	So somebody who's going to bring peace, who's going to defer to me, peace, submissive.
	A yes woman.
	No, it's not the yes woman necessarily.
	Well, it depends what you mean by yes woman.
	Yes to anything you say.
	But she has to, well, ideally, yes.
	She doesn't even have no personality.
	But she actually has to not just yes, but secretly not like it.
	She has to.
	No.
	You want her to have opinion?
	She has to like actually be on board.
	Yeah.
	Like I don't want a girl who's like doing shit.
	Like she's obsessed with making you happy.
	So like a yes.
	No, no, no.
	What's the word for somebody who does something like, oh, begrudging?
	Nah, like, like, for example, a blowjob.
	I don't want a begrudging boat blowjob.
	Like, okay, she's doing the chore blowjob.
	No, she has to be like, she needs to suck the children.
	A woman who wants to suck.
	Like, I don't want a chore blowjob, I guess, you know?
	She needs the dick.
	What if she does that not because she loves the dick, but because she just wants to make you happy?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's part of it.
	Look, look, that's fair.
	I'll accept that.
	I'll accept that, you know?
	Do you want kids?
	You ask us a lot about that.
	I'm wondering if you want a family.
	Do I want kids?
	Do you want a family?
	Yes, but like I would keep her around as a concubine, you know?
	Very specific.
	Yeah, like her, like she could be, you know, she could be like my mistress, and like I would, I would, you know, take care of the, you know, she'd help with the chores in the house and she'd help raise the kids or whatever.
	She'd be like, it's not quite polygamy, but I'd keep her on the side.
	And so I'm like, you know, like for her, like if a woman doesn't want kids, you know, we can, you know, we'll see.
	But I think, yes, I would want kids.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to make things awkward there.
	Wait, what was I?
	The begrudging.
	Oh, yeah.
	So, look, I'm a simple guy.
	Large labia.
	It's not a deal breaker, though.
	Sounds like a lot of people.
	It has to be the most important of them.
	Oh, simp?
	Okay, simp, submissive.
	That's kind of it.
	I mean, just be a simp and submissive.
	What are you guys' like?
	I gotta get up.
	You guys talk about that, though.
	What was your question?
	What are your guys's, like, ideal types?
	Like, in a man, like, on paper, if he's perfect, but this is what I'm gonna start out.
	My man.
	Yeah, like, I can't think of anything because like, I'm so, like, single-focused on my man.
	Like, I can't think of anything.
	What attracted you to your husband?
	He's incredibly traditional.
	He, he is Russian.
	So he's very traditional.
	He takes care of me.
	He paid for my trip here.
	Like, he just said, go have fun.
	Like, so he, and I, like, worship him.
	I am a simp for him.
	Like, I'm like, he needs, he wants to wake me up at 3 a.m.
	So I can make him a sandwich.
	I will do that.
	Like, so that's like me with him.
	And he's like, in turn, he takes care of me.
	So it's really a balance.
	So I love the dynamic because we understand each other's rules that we are not equal.
	But this is what he does and is what I do.
	And we just had an understanding and we mesh really well.
	My man is just like just everything that you can imagine, like a man's man.
	Like he's assertive, but without being like overbearing, but he leads me, he guides me.
	And then, you know, just in general, he knew who he was without anyone else.
	And he just was confident and sexy and just like everything.
	So everything that like you imagine when you're a little girl, like it was like manifested into this person.
	That's great.
	So I feel like once you find that person, like that's, you know, you know what I mean?
	Everybody always is like, oh, when you know, you know, and it sounds so cliche and stupid, but like I've never felt like this before.
	And like when, again, when you like meet that person and you feel these things that you've never felt before, they just, it just changes like who you are.
	You like want to be better yourself for that person.
	Angry.
	I feel like as long as a man is not like being feminine himself, like he's acting like a girl.
	That thing completely throws me off.
	Like I cannot deal with a person if they're like that.
	I just, on paper, I would love somebody who respects me and is kind to me and takes good care of my kids.
	Like, provides.
	What about like genetic preferences?
	Do you guys have those?
	Um, yeah.
	Yeah, I like mixed guys a lot.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I mean, sure, yeah, race, but I was also talking about like eye color, hair color.
	Like, I love a short king.
	I love a short king.
	Oh my God.
	Every man I've ever been with has been either my exact height or shorter than me.
	I've dated one taller guy.
	I don't like it that we weren't at eye level.
	What's wrong?
	Wait, is your man is your man now at eye level or is he a little less?
	He's shorter than you?
	A little less, yeah.
	I mean, she's tall.
	I don't know what it is.
	I get the controversy.
	Tall men are better to some people, whatever.
	Like, they want to look up.
	I don't get it for myself.
	I just, I love a short king.
	The protection thing.
	I like men that look like they can't do that.
	I say this dribble.
	Yeah.
	Like big, masculine.
	Yeah, but my man carries a gun.
	Okay, so do I.
	So he could protect me.
	He doesn't have to be the biggest, strongest, scariest person to protect me.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	But I actually do think, and I strongly believe that a woman should be able to completely provide for herself, make her own finances, be able to support herself without a man.
	You should be able to, but when you find that person that wants to do it, it's an incredible feeling.
	Like, it's absolutely amazing.
	When we got pregnant with our first, it was like my husband just went into high gear and was like, nope, I'm on it.
	We've got this.
	And it was just the most amazing feeling that he wanted to protect us and provide for us.
	And we have exceptional kids because I get to be home with them.
	It's kind of a crazy, amazing feeling.
	Honestly, that probably does not resonate with me because whenever someone's trying, maybe like trying to take care of me, I'm like, ugh.
	Oh, you're so young, so you are going to be brainwashing.
	You've been brainwashed.
	Like, I'm able to do all those things.
	I have done all those things.
	I've done everything on my own, but it was just this feeling when he took over.
	It was like, whoa.
	I have this one focus now.
	That's my focus is my children now.
	Wait, isn't it like more traditional in Russia, though?
	Also, by the way, not concubine.
	I think that's like a sex worker.
	Yeah.
	Mistress, mistress, though, you know?
	Not the first time I've been offered that.
	Yeah.
	I had a guy on, we weren't even on a date or anything.
	I was meeting him for a work thing and we were discussing something about work and he just brought it up randomly.
	He was like, so I'm looking for a wife.
	I was like, okay.
	Where are you going?
	Great.
	What's happening?
	And then he, you know, I mentioned the thing where I don't want to have kids, whatever, went through my whole explanation.
	And he was like, well, so you fit into this other category.
	And basically, was like, you could be my mistress and I'll pay for you and support you and everything.
	And I was like, no.
	Want the, yeah.
	Yeah, I think.
	That doesn't sound fun.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I mean, I would say that, I mean, I definitely do want kids, but if I, you know, whatever, if it didn't happen, then I'd be like, I'd be okay.
	If it didn't happen, I'd be fine with it.
	But I definitely want seven kids.
	Do you know what you're doing?
	Seven sons.
	I need a fucking soldiers.
	I need a gang.
	I need a clan.
	Clan's a good one.
	What if your sons one day, your daughters one day, ask why you're not married to their mommy?
	What if they ask that?
	Yeah, well, all their friends have mommies and daddies that are married.
	I mean, what if they ask, why aren't you married to my mommy?
	I'd be like, well, that other couple over there, she's fucking cheating on her husband.
	You have a mistress.
	You have a mistress.
	I think the important thing is that you're a little bit more.
	Look, I'm fine with monogamy, but I'm just saying, you know, look, look, I'll say this.
	I think removing religion from the conversation, right?
	I think if you were to ask most guys, ooh, that actually reminds me.
	I want to do this new segment that we've never done.
	One sec.
	I think if you ask most men, see, I'm pretend, look at it like this, and this will be the next segment.
	I'm Big Brother Brian.
	Guys want to fuck you, and they're not going to be honest with you.
	I've got a podcast where, honestly, the more honest I am, the better.
	Most men are not going to be honest about what they really think.
	And well, especially not only that, even if in a one-on-one setting, but especially publicly, most men, things are changing a little bit, but most men can't be fully honest about, well, a lot of things, whether it's politics, whether it's dating, because there are pretty severe social ramifications, to be honest, politically.
	It's changing a little bit.
	Culture war is kind of changing.
	But I've got this podcast.
	I've already, like the ship has sailed.
	Like I've already said all the con not all the controversial things.
	A lot of the controversial things.
	You know, so I don't really have too much to hold back.
	But the point I was going to make was, I think if most men are honest and they were dating a woman and that woman would be loyal to them and love them and nothing would change and that woman was okay with him seeing other women, he would do it.
	If she was fine with it and she was loyal, she stayed loyal to him, like she was exclusive to him, but he could go out and sleep with other women.
	If most men are really being honest and it wouldn't bother the woman, they'd be like, yeah, absolutely.
	So you just want your cake and eat it too?
	Well, I mean, you have to understand, I'm not speaking prescriptively.
	I'm not saying what should be.
	I'm saying what is.
	I'm speaking descriptively.
	It is the case that I think if you ask most women, most men if your girlfriend, your wife, was totally cool with you sleeping with other women so that the man could satisfy some base evo-psych evolutionary urge to have variety.
	Yeah, they would do it.
	What if you do it together?
	Like those guys don't hear me.
	I think, yes, that's an option.
	I think that's an option.
	I don't know.
	There's many women who are into that, so.
	Sure.
	But I am just saying, I think most men, I think you'd have to, it's hard to say.
	I think, I don't know if I think we would have to exclude Christian men, perhaps.
	Maybe even Christian men would be fine with it.
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	I mean, it is in contradiction to Christianity, though.
	Because Christianity calls for biblical marriage.
	Yeah.
	And that would be monogamy, right?
	But in terms of their desire, that's another question.
	You've met a lot of Christian men.
	You're saying, like, for example, Charlie Kirk, you're saying that he would, like, in his most base desired, that's totally what he would want to.
	And like Mac Walsh, Michael Knowles, like all these other Christian conservatives, like that deep down inside, this is really what they would do.
	Well, I don't think, so because we're highly intelligent creatures, humans, I don't think we are beholden to our base evo evolutionary psychology, biological drives.
	We're not beholden to them.
	We're not slaves to them.
	But this idea that through the social construction of marriage, that this completely diminishes a man's physical or sexual attraction to other women.
	I mean, I just, it doesn't, of course, men can be loyal.
	Men are loyal.
	But this idea that, you know, if there was a, you know, if it was for, for example, women were just totally fine with it.
	I think most men would, yeah.
	I mean, I think most men would do anything to have their cake and eat it too.
	And to have multiple women at once.
	Well, I mean, I think this also applies to women.
	And we actually do, we do see this played out quite a bit.
	So I think typically what you'll see happen, and this is actually an evolutionary strategy.
	So what women do, you don't like it when I talk about what men do or what men might want to do.
	So women would want to get impregnated by like the most, if it was totally up to them, women would want to get impregnated by the most fit.
	And I don't necessarily mean necessarily like your bodybuild or whatever.
	Like women would want to get impregnated by the most dominant, the most physically attractive, the largest, and the most, so that would somewhat relate to, you know, physical size or whatever.
	And then you have knowing that that guy who's who's the most physical fit, and I use fit, fitness in an evolutionary context.
	And then they find another guy who's not the father to take care of, to be like the good, dutiful husband who's going to do the dishes.
	I think that that's women's evolutionary strategy.
	But that does not fly.
	That doesn't fly.
	I have a question.
	Yeah.
	Who do you think is more?
	Who do you think is going to cheat first?
	Like a man or a woman?
	Emotionally, women, physically men.
	I'm not sure if that's true.
	Women are also really good at hiding it.
	What is emotional cheating?
	When you're like catching feelings for another guy, even though you're with your partner.
	But that's an inevitable.
	I mean, like, your feelings.
	But wait, wait, wait, really quick before to move off, before we move off of this.
	So I do think it's the case that basically you'll have women will have this sort of mating strategy where it's like y'all get pregnant by some hot dude, whatever.
	I mean, here's the thing, right?
	Is the ideal thing would be find the most fit man.
	And again, I'm not using like he's he could, it could be he's like fucking Chad in the face or whatever.
	That too.
	You find the most fit man to mate with, to have children with, but knowing that that guy has so much sexual options, he's never going to be like the father.
	He's not going to commit to you because he has so many sexual options.
	He's going to impregnate all these women.
	Why would he commit to you?
	Why would he invest resources into you?
	But he'll give you the seed.
	So that would confer the most benefits for your children, but, well, benefits in terms of fitness.
	But you also need to balance that with, well, you also need the resources of a man to better be able for your own safety and security and to be able to in the most efficient and best way possible raise your children.
	So that would be the other side of it.
	You know, I would, whenever I would start talking to a guy, I actually would tell him, I'm like, if you want to see other people while we're seeing, this is not like us officially dating.
	Now, I'm like, I don't want to know about it.
	Don't just, you do you, I do my thing.
	And it's like, until we become official, you're not tied to me.
	But I myself don't know if I would necessarily, I might feel a little guilty.
	So like, I've always asked myself this question: would I allow my boyfriend to see other women and me myself just stay with my guy?
	Or if he's doing it, then so can I.
	I mean, that's kind of respectful of each other.
	If you're like, okay, I don't want to know if it happens.
	Yeah, I just am like, don't ask, don't tell type.
	But are you exclusive to him?
	That's where I'm stuck.
	Like, would I be, like, if I genuinely love the guy, like, do I feel satisfied enough to just be with him?
	Or do I need my needs to be met by other people?
	It's just like it's a question that I myself have thought of.
	So it's well, I think there's a maybe an evolutionary basis for a bit of a difference here.
	So I think, look, I think promiscuity is bad in both men and women.
	So I don't think men or women should be promiscuous.
	I think the ideal scenario is you find somebody when you're still relatively young, you stay with them, you have kids with them if you can or if you're inclined to.
	But I think sleeping around, high body counts, promiscuity, I think it's bad on the individual level.
	And I think it's really bad on the societal level.
	Like it's bad for society.
	And so for both men and women.
	Although I think it's a bit worse for in-women, to be honest.
	Maybe you call that a double standard.
	But like in terms of the acceptability of like a man having multiple women and you still being exclusive to him, I think in some ways we've seen this as a phenomenon that is more common like in history than the reverse.
	So like kings would have, I don't know, some fucking warlord, whatever, will have multiple women.
	And I think that like that's a sign of like good for him.
	Hold on, I shouldn't say that.
	But I should say that you see it more often in history.
	However, the reverse is not quite as common and is like kind of gross, not gonna lie.
	It's like frowned upon if it's the reverse.
	Well, I think part of it has to do with the children, like the paternity.
	So, for example, prior to the 1980s when DNA testing became a thing, if I had 10 wives, and let's just grant in the hypothetical that they're all loyal to me, right?
	If I have 10 wives, we know who each of the mother is for all the children, and we know who I'm the father, we know who the father is for all the children.
	If a woman has 10 husbands, who the fuck is the father?
	Who's the father?
	You don't, you can't know.
	So, I think there's like for that reason, men are more invested in the loyalty of because you don't want to be like, let's say you get bamboozled and like I'm dating a girl, I'm married to a girl.
	Meanwhile, by the way, girls are when it comes to cheating, you don't know that shit.
	I mean, unless you're, I mean, you can obviously girls get discovered cheating, of course, but women are typically a little fucking clever about that shit.
	Um, what was I saying?
	Oh, um, okay, you're married to a woman, she's cheating, uh, she gets pregnant by the other guy.
	That's one of the biggest L's a guy can take is thinking the kid is his, thinking he's reproduced, thinking that's his lineage, thinking that's his blood, pouring resources into a man, a woman who isn't loyal to you, and pouring resources into a kid who isn't yours.
	Biggest L a guy can take.
	Women can never experience that because if you get pregnant, you know the kid's yours, right?
	So, I think men are just way more invested in female loyalty than the reverse because the ultimate manifestation, and like you go, you know, ultimately, you have kids with somebody.
	Again, I understand some people don't want kids, that's fine.
	So, I think that's why female promiscuity and female disloyalty is more negatively appraised.
	Just saying, I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I don't think you had something.
	I think so.
	I why, well, I kind of already answered that.
	My question just fleeted out of my brain, actually.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I we okay, we have to do the bow.
	We have to do some of the looks stuff.
	And then we have to do, really quick though, since I brought it up, big brother Brian.
	So I'm here.
	Maybe you've had something bouncing around your head either today or last week or last month or last year, whatever it is.
	I will give you an unfiltered, raw advice.
	I'll give you, it can be dating advice.
	Maybe it's just a question you have.
	Maybe it's like, I don't know.
	It can be anything.
	It could be dating.
	It could be relationships.
	It could be sex, whatever.
	Anything you've always been curious about and you want an answer from a guy who's not trying to have sex with you.
	Because men lie if they're trying to have sex with you.
	Like they'll placate and, you know, you know.
	I have a question.
	Sure.
	Why don't men just tell you that they just want to have sex with you and they're not interested in a relationship with you?
	Like, why can't you just be like transparent?
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	That's a good question.
	Because some women would be like, all right, cool.
	Like, that's fine.
	Because earlier you told me that they're just not interested in me like that when I said the same thing, basically.
	Yeah, so yeah, yeah, no, it's a good question.
	I'll answer it.
	Well, let me ask you this one question and I'll give you some feedback, I guess.
	In terms of what you're looking for, like currently, if a guy who you otherwise were attracted to, but he just said politely, he was like, look, I think you're attractive, but I just want to sleep with you tonight and never speak to you again.
	And maybe you'd want to change the language there.
	So that's maybe a little just give it more charitable language, but that's the essence of what he's getting at.
	Would you go for it?
	Probably not, but I would appreciate the honesty, you know?
	But also, um, now, what about this?
	What if a guy said something like, well, look, I don't want a one-night stand, but listen, um, uh, I'd have sex with you like 10 times, but then I'll probably tire of you.
	Like friends with benefits.
	No, that's a bit rude.
	That's a bit rude.
	But that's the essence.
	Like, you could make it as flowery as you would like.
	But you said the guy should be honest, right?
	So the guy's like, look, I see myself having sex with you 10 times and about 10 times.
	Would you go for that?
	No.
	Okay, I see.
	So they're afraid of being rejected.
	But a woman might.
	I might say no, but someone else might say yes.
	But so, look, and I one thing on this.
	I think men.
	Well, I think a couple of, I think a lot of things.
	I don't think men should lie about their intentions.
	I think that that's wrong.
	So, and I don't think you can argue to the contrary.
	If a man, in furtherance of just getting sex from you, says, Hey, I'm looking for something serious.
	I want a girlfriend.
	I, you know, I have serious intentions with you for you.
	And then he sleeps with you and it was a lie.
	Like, I think it's, just to be clear, one caveat.
	A man could have those intentions with you, and then, like, he sleeps with you, and either there's a lack of sexual compatibility, or after sleeping with you, I don't know, you it could be that or just your behavior.
	He's like, oh, whoa, okay, there's nude information.
	I don't like her anymore.
	Like, that can happen.
	But if it's clear, like the guy's clearly going into it with no lying, be like, yes, of course, I want a long-term relationship with you.
	He's being deceptive.
	He's lying.
	That's wrong.
	Men shouldn't do it.
	Right.
	But you're asking why they do it.
	Well, they do it because they want to sleep with you.
	And I don't think it's a crime, but it's definitely, I think it's probably morally and ethically wrong to mislead somebody insofar as would you sleep with them had their true intentions been known?
	Well, if the answer is no, then they've bamboozled you, which is wrong.
	Yeah, but they do it because, yeah, they're trying to have sex with you.
	And that's wrong, but that's why they do it.
	They're trying to play it safe.
	So they don't want you to say no beforehand.
	Like, because if you find out, he did just ask and you did just say no.
	I would not do it if I knew it was just a one-night stand.
	Yeah, I mean, I also think that it's like, like I said, I mean, I might say no, but someone else might say yes, right?
	So I think I always, I don't know, me personally, I think transparency and honesty is the best policy always.
	Yeah, look, I do think there are negotiated friends with benefits dynamics that do occur.
	I don't think all men are doing this misleading thing.
	Perhaps a lot are, though.
	But a common thing that men say that isn't technically a lie, right, is we'll see where it goes, which could be at the end of the night.
	It could be 10 years from now, but you never know, would that change your answer if the answer you got was, we'll see where it goes.
	I don't know.
	I feel like I've gotten that answer before.
	I ask a lot of questions on a first date.
	I kind of like interrogate the person, which maybe doesn't always come off great, but I would rather get all the bad shit out on the table and sort through that before we even go on a second date, personally.
	And so I think we'll see where it goes.
	For me, I've been, I've accepted that, but then it's usually, you're not going to get anything from me until we're like months in.
	Have you ever had a casual thing?
	Like a fling?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, also, I think people also have this experience, and I don't know if you've had this experience of the long-term relationships I've had, and I've had multiple long-term relationships, like one year, five years, two years.
	It wasn't like, let's wait three months to have sex of my long-term relationships.
	And I have very positive things to say about almost all my exes, except one.
	I don't say, well, anyways.
	It wasn't, yeah, let's wait three months to have sex.
	It was like first, second, or third date.
	We had sex and I liked her, she liked me.
	We continued seeing each other.
	So, I mean, have you had that experience where it's like you meet a guy, you guys had sex early, pretty early on, and then you guys liked each other and became boyfriend, girlfriend down the road?
	I have the person I'm thinking of in particular, though, which is really interesting.
	We were together for a year and a half, but it was also meh.
	Meh and awesome all at the same time.
	Yeah, we did.
	We had sex early on and we were together for a year and a half.
	But he early on told me that it was just going to be a casual thing.
	And I was okay with that with him whenever it started because it kind of the relationship started off like that.
	And then all of a sudden, he was at my door every single night.
	And then it slowly kind of turned into a relationship.
	And then kind of after the way that ended, I think kind of like soured me for doing that again because he basically ended up moving in with me.
	And then I was like supporting him, kind of.
	So yeah.
	Maybe another reason why men will do that again.
	I don't think it's right, but I think, so I think men, when it comes to just casual sex, they will men will fuck down.
	So what I mean by this is for men, let's say if a lower attractiveness to be sexually competitive, well, either, I mean, how do I frame this correctly?
	They might have to feign romantic or long-term interest because, like, for a woman, let's say a woman just wants a one-night stand.
	I think women, when it comes to women, can sleep outside of their league.
	They typically can't get relationships out of their league, but women can sleep outside their league.
	So women, let's say a woman who's not otherwise that interested in a short-term thing, casual sex, a one-night stand, she's going to break that rule if as the guy becomes more attractive.
	So a girl who's like doesn't really wouldn't do a one-night stand or wouldn't do friends with benefits, if the guy's really attractive outside of her league and he's offering her the one-night stand, offering her friends with benefits, she might bite on that.
	But like, whereas for, well, the difference is for men, when men seek out casual sex, they'll go way down.
	Like for men, if it's just casual sex, you basically have to be willing.
	And this is going to sound bad.
	You got to just have a hold.
	I mean, obviously, look, the guy, look, obviously, as a guy, even if you just want casual sex, you'd want to maximize for the most attractive woman you can get.
	But men are willing to go down.
	They'll go down.
	Like, so, for example, I'll frame it like this.
	This is the best way I can frame it.
	A guy, well, how about this?
	For you women, hide it.
	For you women, in order for you to have sex with a man, in terms of his looks, his attractiveness, in order for you to have sex with him, he has to be at least good-looking enough that you would be in a relationship with him.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Whereas for men, men will have sex with women that in terms of the woman's attractiveness, he would be like, on the sole basis of her looks, I would never consider being in a relationship with her, but I would have sex with her.
	So this is the big difference here.
	This is the big dilemma.
	And so this causes quite a few issues, but yeah.
	I don't know.
	Follow-up question.
	Yeah, sure.
	Brother Brian.
	Yeah.
	Big brother Brian.
	Big brother Brian.
	So how would you go about like filtering this then?
	As a woman?
	Yeah.
	If you were a woman, how would you do this?
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	And I actually acknowledge that women are kind of in a bind, in a bind, because on one hand, if you're dealing with a really high, like a high-tier guy, he has no shortage of sexual options.
	And you're going to be less competitive if you're pursuing, well, not pursuing, but if you're interested in him and you're like holding back sex and like women who are just as attractive as you or more attractive than you are giving him sex, you're like deprioritized in terms of his rotation, in terms of what he wants.
	So, but on the other hand, if you do give the guy sex too soon and then he like, what happens?
	He goes.
	So I think women are a bit of a bind.
	I actually don't know what the solution is.
	Absent a complete return.
	I mean, there isn't a good solution currently.
	Because on one hand, I think if you withhold, withhold, withhold, a lot of guys who might otherwise get into a relationship with you, they're going to be like, ah, man, whatever.
	I'm not going to, too much work.
	But he might otherwise end up your boyfriend if you did give him sex, but you're holding back, holding back, holding back.
	He's like, ah, I want sex.
	I'll find a girl who will give me sex and then maybe she'll be my girlfriend.
	But you also have to balance that with you don't want to get played.
	You don't want to get used just for sex.
	I think knowing like a background, like let's say you saw a Christian man, right?
	Or you didn't, the likelihood that this person is just, you know, in it for the sexist is lowered.
	So, you know, maybe lean there.
	From personal experience, I disagree.
	I don't think they were very Christian then.
	I mean, I think there's a hypocrite.
	I think there's a lot of like lukewarm Christians who engage in premarital sex all the time, who want to have sex.
	There's Christian women who have Bible verses in their Instagram.
	Actually, I don't know if I'm not going to share any detail.
	But look, Sometimes people are LARPing a little bit as Christians.
	So even if you do, I mean, I think it's better than like, you're going to have probably a better shot with a Christian guy than with like a lib liberal guy, atheist guy.
	But but yeah, I don't, I actually don't know the solution.
	The solution would have to be complete structural and societal upheaval, and you need to have a return to no sex before marriage.
	And all women would have to enforce this.
	Because if men only get sex within the confines of marriage, men will only pursue women.
	I mean, there's some, look, there are some guys who will wait fucking years for pussy.
	I'm going to be honest.
	But that's kind of pathetic.
	In the sense that they just play the long game and then dip.
	I think you would need to basically, in order to this sort of paradox, I guess, that you're presenting, we have to completely return to like universal no sex until marriage.
	Because a man wouldn't pursue a woman unless he had long-term interest in her.
	Because, I mean, what else?
	But I don't think that's going to happen.
	The cat's out of the bag.
	So I guess we're just fucked.
	I don't have a solution.
	I think that's it.
	But I think a good starting point, you could, I don't know.
	Like, look, I'll also share my perspective, though.
	So, but to achieve what you want to achieve, probably, like, yes, we're going to wait to have sex.
	But from my perspective, I actually, like, I'll actually pass on women who don't want to have sex.
	Like, just being honest, I'll just pass.
	Like, she doesn't.
	It depends a little bit, though.
	Like, if she's a virgin, we can wait a little bit.
	But if she's like had sex before, and like, I think the new guy doesn't want different treatment.
	Like, if I would feel a type of way, kind of like with her situation, remember in the beginning of the show, you were saying there's these guys you hook up with, have sex with quickly, right?
	Yeah.
	You've had that experience.
	Maybe it's the first date, second date, third date, third time hanging out, whatever.
	We don't have to use date, but first time, second time, third time hanging out, you fuck them.
	Meanwhile, you got guys you've been dating for, you're an interesting case, just to be fair.
	You got a dude you've been seeing for six months, a year, three years, whatever the fuck, and you haven't slept with him.
	Like, I'd feel raw about that.
	Like, I'm dating a girl.
	Here's the scenario: I would pass on this girl.
	Not, not, I'll give you a hypothetical rule when I say I'll pass on this girl.
	I meet a girl.
	I like her.
	I think she's attractive.
	And maybe the second date, third date, whatever, trying to move things forward, move things forward.
	And she's like, oh, I want to wait.
	And then maybe I might like, but if I knew that three, two months ago, she had a one-night stand, I'd be like, hold on, what's going on here?
	Like, I want something long-term with you because I'm not interested, at least from my own perspective.
	She might not believe me.
	She might not know.
	But one-night stands are worthless to me.
	Like, I have no interest in it.
	I want continuity with a girl.
	Like, it's useless to me to just fuck a girl once.
	That's stupid.
	Like, I want something long-term with a girl.
	So, but I also don't have any, like, we can have sex quick.
	Like, I'm fine with that.
	Where was I?
	Sorry, I'm losing my train of thought a little bit here.
	I feel like oh, yeah, yeah.
	So, I would feel a bit bent out of shape if, like, hey, I'm interested in being with you.
	Um, you want to wait, but that's not a standard that you held other men to.
	Yeah, yeah, I would be like, I'd be pretty raw about that.
	I think that's a personal thing, but I just the thing of me, I just get a lot of mixed signals.
	Like, I don't really know.
	Like, what?
	They're gay?
	The guys you're dating are gay?
	No.
	They don't want to have sex with you.
	I just get feelings.
	Like, one day I kind of like the person, like, attracted to them.
	And then the next day, I'm like, okay, you know what?
	I don't really like this person at all.
	And it's just, for instance, the guy, like, I knew for a year.
	The time we just met, like, last year, I thought I liked him.
	And now this year we met again and we literally meet once a year, which doesn't make any sense to me.
	I realized that, you know, I actually don't have any feelings.
	And I was like, you know what?
	I'm just going to, I'm not going to say anything, essentially, just like breaking it off, absolutely.
	But I'm just going to space out a little bit.
	Just, you know, like.
	Well, okay, I guess there's this phenomenon, though, where I guess I was kind of balancing the, I don't know if this is the right term, but like the female position versus the male position.
	So for in your case, like probably what's most advantageous to you would be to wait.
	It might mean you might otherwise miss out on the guy who, you know, even if you do have sex with him, would otherwise would be in a relationship with you.
	But I also, I'm just sharing my perspective, something that's analogous to your situation.
	I don't really believe in waiting.
	I'm not saying it has to be like the first time we hang out.
	But if I know a girl I'm dealing with, like she, the last guy she dated, her previous boyfriend, she hooked up with him on the first or second date and you wanted to make me wait three months.
	I'm going to be like, I don't think she's all that interested.
	I don't think she has that desire.
	I feel it's a raw deal.
	It's kind of like, I guess let me ask you women this.
	And women do this a lot, by the way, this is like a really consistent thing women do where you will have, and look, it's life's not fair, right?
	Different people get different treatment.
	It is what it is.
	How would you feel, though, if how's the best framing for this?
	Well, what's interesting is this.
	Sometimes with this waiting for sex thing, you women will say, oh, that guy wasn't serious.
	So I gave him pussy right away.
	Like, he was just for fun.
	Like, I wasn't.
	Like, he was a jerk.
	He was an asshole.
	Wait, so hold on.
	You reward.
	You reward the guy who we would argue was the least deserving of sex.
	But now here, I'm the guy you want a long-term relationship with.
	Shouldn't the guy that you want the long-term relationship with be the guy that you reward sexually?
	Honestly, no, I it's the thing, I don't really want a long-term relationship in general.
	Like, I don't, I don't like it's the phenomenon I'm talking about here is that women will have one-night stands, women will have friends with benefits, uh, women will have uh, you know, casual sex, and then they'll say, Oh, that guy, he was just casual.
	He was, um, uh, he was just for fun, it wasn't anything serious.
	I don't, I didn't care about him, but I really care about you, the guy who I want to have a long-term relationship with.
	We have to wait three months, and it seems so completely backwards.
	Like, you shouldn't have given sex to this guy who was a jerk or a dick or who you knew, who was a fuckboy.
	I get that he was exciting and hot and attractive, but uh, you gave him sex, and here I am, the guy who's prepared to give you commitment, prepared to do all the things that like he wasn't.
	It's it's just uh this interesting dynamic.
	It'd be the example I like to give is um, imagine like a man who had a reputation of spending.
	I know some women don't care that much about like gift giving or whatever or providing, but I think most women care about providing.
	So, imagine a man who had a reputation for spending obscene amounts of money on women he had like no long-term interest in, but he just wanted to fuck them.
	But then, when he dates you, he says he won't spend a dime on you until you prove yourself to him.
	Actually, I do see something.
	So, from the first of all, like starting with the woman who does that, for instance, not me, but just a woman who would do that, like hook up with a guy right away, but then he has to wait three months.
	That person who has to wait three months, maybe she is studying him, like as a person, because if they hooked up one day, they might never meet again, so they might not know each other in future life.
	But in this instance, if you want to like actually study a person, find out about what's his habits, what does he do, what is he, like, what are his intentions, if you're actually interested in like a long-term relationship.
	So, that way, I would say those three months would be her essentially studying the person or him studying her.
	Well, I mean, I just okay, how about this?
	So, the girls that I just see as just pure fuck, let's assume that's the case.
	I don't like one-night stands, but let's just say I was into that.
	That I, that's just sex.
	I just want to fuck her once.
	I did all the extra shit.
	I bought her flowers, I got her gifts, I took her out to a fancy dinner, and then when I come along and meet you, the girl who I claim that I want something serious with, I want a relationship, I want to be boyfriend-girlfriend, I take you to McDonald's and I never give you gifts.
	Wouldn't you, as a woman, be like, Hold on, I'm your girlfriend, I should get the gifts, the trips, the vacation, the nice dinner.
	You gave that to some fucking hoe, you gave that to a hoe, and I'm your fucking girlfriend.
	You women would be pissed.
	And I'm trying to say that's kind of like, I don't know, that's how I feel.
	I think that's how men feel about this.
	I'm the guy here who wants to be your boyfriend, and you want to give it away the fuck boy, the fuck boy, you want to give it away to Sway Lee who just wants to fuck you and use you, and who's got 20 other dudes, right?
	Let me ask you a question: Would you fuck Sway Lee right away?
	You're 10, that's fucking crazy.
	Would you fuck Sway Lee?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you think Sway Lee, be honest, Sway Lee, a fucking.
	I don't think I've listened to this.
	Do you think the rapper Sway Lee is going to wants to be your boyfriend, girlfriend with you?
	I'll have to ask you.
	I think so.
	Okay.
	Do you think?
	Look, I mean, look, you're an attractive gal, maybe, who knows?
	But, like, I think these rappers, they're kind of known for getting around a little bit.
	I think maybe that's all.
	Do you think, but, but, like, so, so, Sway Lee, right?
	Oh, wait, fuck, I lost.
	Oh, my God.
	I had something so good, but I just lost it.
	It's okay.
	I need a moment.
	Shit, it was so good.
	It'll come back.
	Okay, wait, wait, wait.
	So I was asking, would you have sex with Sway Lee?
	Fuck.
	Oh, my God.
	I lost it.
	I'm retarded.
	Damn it.
	It's okay.
	You would have sex quick with Sway Lee.
	What were you saying before that?
	Well, studying.
	You asked if he would get into a long-term relationship with me or not.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't think, I don't think he would.
	Well, maybe that's fucking.
	Fuck, I told you that's a good idea.
	You said because they're rappers, they're usually not.
	That's biased opinion.
	So you think that's a rapper.
	You think a girl goes to fuck Chris Brown?
	Like she has an expectation he's going to be loyal?
	You think girls fuck rappers and athletes?
	Like they know what the deal is.
	They know what the deal is.
	You never know, though.
	Okay, you never know.
	Oh my God, I had such a fucking good point.
	I hate myself.
	Oh my God.
	It was so good and I've completely lost it.
	It was something about Sway Lee and I was going to do some.
	Damn, what was it?
	Sorry, I could have a moment of silence.
	I need to.
	I actually think you make a very good point, though, to that whole thing.
	Because I've done, I will say I've been like, girl, I've done both.
	I've withheld and I've not for extended periods of time.
	And actually, to your point, kind of to study the person.
	And so maybe I should really rethink my strategy here.
	I don't know.
	What if, like, now I'm thinking of this, like, what if the girl, she's like, or guy, and it's like this.
	In the beginning, they're hooking up with these people and they're going on these one-night stands.
	And then they meet this person and they're like, after, no, let me backtrack.
	They go on these one-night stands and then they're like, wow, maybe I shouldn't be doing this.
	Maybe I should be trying to meet the right person.
	And they meet this person.
	They're like, okay, I'm going to make them wait.
	What if it's like that?
	So I think it is fair to have a change of approach so long as it's genuine.
	But I think that it would be frustrating as a guy to encounter, for example, like, let's say I meet a girl and I like her and she likes me and she makes me wait.
	And then I find out, oh, a week before she met me, she fucked Sway Lee.
	And like, for example, I would be incredibly frustrated if I was dating her, for example.
	And she's like, well, Brian, you're a swell guy.
	And we're going to, we're, I don't know.
	I'm going to investigate you.
	And we're going to wait six months and I'm going to feel you out.
	And then you're going to have to invest all this time and energy and take me on a date.
	Take me on dates and do all XYZ and do all the cute boyfriend.
	Oh, you want to go fucking skating?
	Ice skating and all the fucking.
	I'm like, yeah.
	Yeah, I'm going to ask Swayle.
	And then I find out.
	Hold on.
	Sway Lee, she fucks Sway Lee in fucking an hour.
	She's some groupie backstage.
	It's a complete asynchronous fuck.
	I'm trying to say something, whatever.
	Figure it out.
	And it would just be so off-putting.
	And I think a lot of women will move that way, though.
	They'll be like, it would, I don't know.
	It's fucked up.
	Y'all fucked up.
	Well, you did that.
	That's crazy shit.
	I mean, y'all be, y'all be giving the guy, like, look, ultimately, the point is, I would say to you, Sway Lee, I saw a photo.
	I don't know that fucking guy.
	This guy is probably for not very deserving.
	I don't know if deserving is the right word here.
	This guy doesn't want to be your commit to you.
	You're going to give him some pussy for nothing.
	You just, I don't know.
	That's crazy, by the way.
	You can do better.
	Come on.
	What the fuck, you weirdo?
	What's going on in Russia?
	Y'all Russians are fucking...
	Oh my God.
	There's not enough black guys in Russia.
	What the fuck?
	She sees one black guy.
	She sees one black dude.
	And like, all she, she hasn't, she's never seen, for 15 years, she lived in Russia, never saw a black person.
	Oh, my God.
	The first black guy she sees, she's going to fuck him, right?
	It's crazy, bro.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Anyways, look, you could do way better, by the way.
	Maybe try, you could try, I don't know, who's like, yeah, yeah, I mean, someone of substance, not King Vaughn.
	King Vaughn is attractive.
	Look, King Vaughn is dead.
	He's attractive.
	Idris elbow.
	Talking about like on an attractiveness level, King Vaughn is attractive.
	But like, imagine that, right?
	You're some, like, let's say you're some, like, a good guy, and you see this striking Russian lady, and you don't know that, like, the week before she fucked Sway Lee, like, and like, Sway Lee, like, he's in the, he's in his, like, fucking dressing room or whatever before the show, and like, he's got a lot, he, like, some chicks, like, sucked his dick right before, and then, like, Swayley comes on, he's off, he's fucking off of the, what is it, the, the, the, the scissorp, or what do they call it?
	That's sorry, I'm a fucking gen, I'm a millennial person.
	The lean, yeah, the lean.
	Purple drink.
	Sway Lee's is off the fucking lean, and he, like, with like a partially flaccid penis, has sex with you because he's on drugs, right?
	So you can't even get fully erect.
	He, like, fucks you, and he's like, get the fuck out, bitch.
	And then that was you.
	And then I have to be, I have to show up on the knight in shining armor.
	I have to show up with my chivalry and my horse and come.
	And I have to do all the fucking lame, fucking simp, boyfriend shit.
	And I gotta wait three months.
	And then I found out, y'all fuck Sway Lee.
	I did all this shit.
	I did all this shit.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I thought this woman was my, she was my, she's my, what's the right term?
	My diamond, my flap.
	And she fucks Sway Lee.
	I got to do all this shit.
	It's like, again, I'll repeat the other one.
	Imagine a guy who he's like, I love you, babe.
	You're the one.
	I want to be with you.
	I could see this go in the distance.
	You could be the future wife or mother of my kids.
	Like, I love you.
	And, but then you find out, but by the way, he never takes you on dates.
	He doesn't give you gifts.
	Whatever your love language is.
	I don't know.
	He doesn't seem all that emotionally intelligent, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	But then you find out he was, whatever your love language, whatever the things that you would want a guy to do, he didn't really do much of them, but he did all of it just so he could hit some hood rat once.
	Like, imagine I'm just some fucking strumpet, you know?
	Some look, we got some classy women here, very classy, right?
	Imagine some guy who's like, oh, yes, my dear, I'm going to make love to you.
	I don't know, that's sorry, that was so cringe.
	I apologize.
	I don't know.
	He's like, oh, my dear.
	My dear.
	And then you know, you find out that he like he fucks some, like, he did all this shit.
	He, he got gifts and he spent money and he took some hood rat to fuck in Hawaii and like you, he never, oh my, wouldn't you be upset?
	Okay, I'm okay.
	No, so I actually, what's funny is the guy that I was with for a year and a half, that was like kind of the situation.
	I don't know what he did with his past relationships, but yeah, we never went on any dates or anything.
	And he didn't really like recognize me as his partner for a really long time.
	But I was like, I'm going to do something different.
	I really like you.
	I'm going to commit to you.
	And, you know, we're going to, in my head, do the thing.
	And I'm going to be exclusive with you.
	Like, we were exclusive with each other, but there was none of that exchange.
	And ultimately, like, the dynamic was fine.
	But at the end of the day, the reason we broke up is because he literally, a year and a half later, after moving in with me, looked at me and said, Yeah, I don't take you seriously.
	And I was like, then why the fuck are you here?
	Like, what are you doing?
	Why are you here?
	And then we broke up.
	And then he was like, you're the woman that I want to have my babies and you should be, oh, so happy.
	And I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
	This is so confusing.
	He doesn't know himself with this.
	So, yeah, I mean, upset is how I did feel.
	So that's valid.
	Yeah, it's like, I don't know, the guy who's like, oh, this could be the mother of my children, or this could be the girl I spend the rest of my life with.
	And he like doesn't do any of this nice shit for you.
	But then like the chick that he claims, he doesn't really, whatever, she was just for fun.
	He did all this shit.
	We have some chats coming through.
	I'm going to have you read this one.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Then we got to blast through a bunch of it.
	Should I read the name as well?
	Yeah.
	Ethan Williams3694 donated $100.
	Brian, love the podcast.
	Keep up the good work for the panel.
	Into the mic.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Keep up the good work for the panel.
	It's a guy with an ankle monitor/slash felony, a turn off or a turn.
	Where was it?
	Turn on.
	Doesn't matter what the felony is.
	So, okay, would you, how about this?
	Maybe we can just do show of hands.
	Would you date a guy with an ankle monitor?
	Sorry, like on the house or outside.
	Yes, is your current boyfriend?
	What did he do?
	Well, he just got the ankle monitor while I was already with him.
	You meet him, you're single, you meet him, and you see the ankle monitor, which means he's like, you know.
	I'd probably have some follow-up questions, but I feel like even if he hasn't.
	Show of hands, do you guys want to show your, was it just you?
	Just me.
	You would do it?
	Okay, only if it's tax fraud.
	Only if it's tax fraud.
	There it is.
	All right.
	Here, read this one.
	For 100th time on show, men only marry a wealthy woman.
	Abolish marriage and community property.
	It will fix dating.
	Let the gold dig go way of the dodo bird.
	Any heiress out there, I'm available.
	No prenup.
	Yo, David, good to see you, man.
	I haven't seen you in a while.
	Good to see you, man.
	Yeah, I think that's a solution.
	That's a solution.
	Also, I'm with you on the heiress thing.
	Yeah, where's all these wealthy women sliding into my DMs?
	You know, it's crazy, you know?
	Right.
	Not that I really care about that, but messed up.
	You know, I don't really care about the money, you know.
	Okay, I have a question, but are we still on like the same topic?
	The big brother, big bro.
	Yeah, we'll do one more, then we'll move it on to okay.
	Do you think that someone who cheats on somebody can change and not cheat in the future?
	Yeah, logically, it's possible, uh, but I think it's valid to obviously end a relationship over cheating for sure.
	But I think you can forgive the person.
	Uh, me personally, it's an instant breakup, like I would instantly break up with her, yeah, but uh, I and I wouldn't advise men to accept infidelity.
	Um, would you advise women to accept it?
	No, I well, I would say this: I would leave it up to your own preferences.
	Um, as a woman, if you can forgive the man, that's fine.
	If you want to break up with him, that's totally fine too.
	Um, but uh, I here's a difference.
	Okay, this is gonna get me in some hot water with you guys.
	Go ahead.
	I think, and when I say I think, I mean, I know I believe this is gonna sound bad, but whatever, I'll just whatever.
	All right, I think if a woman cheats, she can't love you anymore.
	It doesn't sound a chance.
	I think that that is more an indictment of the state of the relationship.
	I think if a man cheats here, I'll frame it like this: if a man cheats, he can still love his woman.
	If a woman cheats, she does not love her man.
	Do you think it would be different if the woman was cheating after the man had originally cheated and she was just like, oh, I'm going to get back at you?
	Do you think she can still love him then?
	Or is it just by the way?
	I'm I'm speaking a bit in generalities.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, like, is it possible a woman could cheat and still be in love with yes, but I think more often than not, I think that a man can cheat.
	And hey, by the way, he's a piece of shit for it.
	You shouldn't cheat.
	It's wrong.
	It is.
	But I think a man can cheat and still be in love with his girl.
	I don't know if that's the case the other way around quite as often.
	But so, what's the question?
	Can the woman cheat in revenge and then?
	Yeah, do you think she can still love the man if she's cheating in revenge?
	Look, reconciliation, forgiveness is possible.
	I mean, I just think that's an L, though.
	No, it's an L for the woman to cheat.
	If he cheats, either end the relationship or stay with him.
	But cheating back, that just seems like an L for you.
	It is.
	It's totally an L for me.
	I think you're to your count.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, like, I should.
	No, I've never cheated like that.
	I mean, it would be, it's, it's, it'll be hurtful to the guy.
	Yeah.
	Like, the guy doesn't want you to be sleeping with other men, obviously.
	So your goal there is to hurt the man.
	So that's the.
	Oh my God, bro.
	I think I have Alzheimer.
	I'm fucking dementia here.
	What is the fucking, what is the word for catharsis?
	I don't know if that's the right word.
	Catharsis.
	Can you explain?
	Catharsis?
	Like, it would be people do an emotional release.
	People have a drive for revenge, right?
	And so there would be a catharsis in getting revenge.
	Like, I guess like an impulse, like, and also, you also, there's an impulse.
	You want to hurt the person that hurt you.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So I understand that impulse.
	But ultimately, in terms of your standing, I just fucking some dudes.
	I just, that seems like, yeah, it's like a double-edged sword.
	Like, okay, he's going to be hurt.
	But like, that's just an L for the girl.
	Yeah.
	It's an L for the girl.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah.
	It's almost like, for example, like if this is kind of niche, but I've heard women say they fucked a guy to get revenge on him.
	Like it was a hate fuck.
	And I'm like, the guy she's fucking?
	No, no, no.
	Like she's say she's single.
	Okay.
	And there's a guy that she really doesn't like.
	And she's like, I'll show him.
	I'll fuck him.
	I'm like, where are you meeting these women?
	I'm like, that's not a W for you.
	Like, you gave him a W, kind of.
	Unless she had an SCD or something.
	Yeah, unless she had her piece.
	Yeah.
	But I'm like, that's not the win you think of this.
	That's an L. How is that a win at all?
	You got to explain what the fuck.
	Maybe you girls can tell me.
	Like, a spite fuck?
	I don't know.
	You know what I mean?
	No.
	I would never fuck somebody despite them.
	You know what I mean?
	Spite fuck.
	Who's done the spite fuck?
	You must have like a really like spite fucked?
	She raised her hand over the shit.
	Oh, Mary Spitefred.
	I don't know.
	I've heard girls say this.
	It's a spite fuck.
	Multiple?
	Multiple.
	No, just, I don't know.
	Multiple girls.
	How about pity fuck?
	Was she like?
	Like, like maybe, how about this?
	It could be like, I don't know if this would even be like, how about this?
	She slept with him, and then assuming that she thought that the guy had a long-term interest in him, but she wanted to play with his mind, she fucked him once and then discarded him.
	Oh, okay, that makes a little bit more sense.
	So like the guy's kind of all like bummed out because he didn't get the girl.
	Like, well, he slept with her, but he fucked her.
	It's a win either way.
	He still kind of won.
	Yeah.
	Like, still hit.
	Still hit.
	Still hit.
	Literally.
	So, I don't know.
	This is, I don't know.
	Wait, what did we have next, Mary?
	The bow?
	All right.
	Yeah, let's do the bow.
	So, okay, we're somebody, you were asking me what I want in a woman.
	I took a video.
	Actually, I'm very autistic about when I'm dating women.
	So, I actually, of a girl I used to date, knowing that I would eventually break up with her, I took a video of her doing what I want her to do so I could show my future girlfriends get in line.
	Like, get with the program.
	Oh, my.
	This isn't like not like a line, like a line of people.
	Like, get in line, get it with the program.
	So, it's like an instructional instructional video, you know, because I think sometimes women do better with, you know, like a visual aid.
	Sometimes just saying the words isn't enough.
	You have to show them.
	You have to demonstrate.
	So, okay, go ahead, play the video.
	This is my ex-girlfriend.
	I show this to all future girlfriends so they know huge bow.
	You see the depth, submissive hand posture.
	She has to bow as soon as I walk through the door after a long podcast recording session.
	I need a bow.
	Is this a skit?
	This is 100% real.
	Of course.
	So she has to have my dinner ready, dinner ready.
	Of course, I'm taking care of everything, my apartment, whatever.
	She has to have my dinner ready, has to crack open a beer for me.
	And even mix up your noodles.
	Look at that.
	She does that too.
	Get ready to play one more time.
	Nope, pull it back up.
	She could have mixed the noodles a little better.
	Pull it back up.
	And then play.
	Just play.
	Boom.
	Nice.
	The bow.
	The bow's the big thing.
	All that other shit, whatever.
	That's bare minimum.
	Bare minimum.
	The bow, she's got to bow.
	Cultural appropriation.
	Oh, the bow.
	Who had the disagreement?
	Was you the bow?
	Yeah.
	You had the disagreement with the bow.
	Okay, we'll do it.
	We'll get into that.
	Yeah, so I believe in cultural appropriation.
	You know what?
	Fuck that.
	I believe in cultural re-invigoration.
	I don't think that's the right word.
	I would need an elaboration.
	What?
	So historically, you know, you might say, well, that's an Asian thing.
	The bowing thing.
	That's Asian culture.
	Back in the day in Western culture, I am realiving.
	Am I just reliving?
	Is something wrong with me?
	Renaissance?
	Renaissance?
	No.
	What's the thing with a phoenix?
	We need a time with rebirth.
	Resurgent.
	Rebirth?
	Reincarnate?
	Rebirth?
	What do Phoenix do?
	Rise from the ashes.
	The bow was part of Western culture historically.
	I'm bringing it back.
	Revive.
	I'm thinking every video game.
	It's not even cultural appropriation.
	I'm just cultural revival.
	Cultural revival.
	Okay.
	So, yes, I expect she happened to be Asian.
	What about curtsying?
	She happened to be Asian, I think.
	Nah.
	I don't like curtsy.
	I don't like a curtsy.
	What does it signify, like, culturally?
	Oh, I don't know culturally, but it's a show of respect.
	Okay.
	It's a show of respect.
	And in today's day and age, you know, it's often kind of hard to meet a woman who will respect you on that level.
	Do you not believe that?
	Do you not believe that a woman can respect you without bowing to you?
	She can, but it's better if she bows.
	It's just his preference.
	I get it.
	What's that song from is it Panic at the Disco?
	Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking off her clothes, but it's better if she does.
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I don't know.
	I'm forgetting.
	Look, I'm just saying.
	I'm just saying.
	So who would anybody who would bow for a man?
	Yeah.
	You would bow?
	Bow.
	No?
	Bow.
	You would bow.
	Bow.
	Just the bow.
	Just the bow.
	I don't see the big deal.
	That's the thing.
	That's it.
	Nothing.
	All right.
	Well, you bow back.
	When you were getting somewhere, you don't want to.
	You shouldn't have to, and then you can find somebody else who doesn't.
	You absolutely doesn't want that.
	I think I bow emotionally to a man.
	I don't know if I would bow physically to a man.
	Do you get on your knees and do whatever?
	That's the same thing.
	What do you mean?
	If my husband asked to like try, I would try it.
	Reluctant, it would be a reluctant bow.
	If it didn't really work out, then I would hope that he would be willing to find another way.
	Wait, quick callback.
	It's not begrudging blowjob.
	I mean, it could be, but it's reluctant.
	It's so long ago.
	Reluctant, also bad.
	Sorry, continue.
	I didn't.
	Oh, no.
	So old.
	I feel like only if I wanted to bow.
	Like if someone's making me bow, like.
	Yes.
	So I agree with you.
	I don't, like, this isn't some like domination thing where like I've got, you know, how like you got to break a horse?
	I don't want to do it.
	No, you want to do it.
	Yeah.
	That's.
	You want to do all this shit.
	That's how it should be.
	You know, it's like with the blowjob.
	Like, it's like the woman, like, it's bet.
	Look, if she does it and she does it.
	Well, no, I don't want it out of obligation or duty.
	You should, you need the dick.
	Yeah.
	You need the dick.
	Like, you need to suck the dick.
	All right, really quick, though.
	Or even for sex.
	It's not like, well, I guess I'm going through the motions that is expected to me in a relationship.
	No, like, you need my dick in and around your vagina.
	Like, you need the dick.
	You need the dick.
	Not just you want the dick.
	You need the dick.
	You say head, not vagina.
	I gotta clarify.
	I gotta make it.
	I gotta keep things clear.
	Like, I don't know.
	Y'all, look, if the girl, look, I'm, the girl's gotta have some enthusiasm about it.
	Like, if the girl's on the fence, like, like, no, no, no, the girl doesn't even have to do much, but she's gotta, whatever it is that we're doing, she's gotta want, like, she's gotta be enthusiastic.
	I sent.
	I think maybe, like, the ladies that are, like, married and long-term committed relationships here can relate to this because you were like, yes, I'll do that.
	But you're also mentioned that you're super obsessed with your husband, which is beautiful.
	So you'll do anything.
	So, like, maybe, and you as well, maybe you guys can relate to that.
	But I don't know.
	I've never, I've never ever been with a man that made me want to bow to him a lot of times.
	Does the guy bow back?
	Is that a good one?
	I would never allow my man to bow to me.
	I would never allow that.
	Absolutely not.
	I have a question.
	Is it about the bow?
	Yeah, kind of.
	Can I have my man tip his little hat?
	Because that's an old cultural thing for respect.
	Yeah, like a little malady, madam.
	Not no.
	That's lame.
	That's lame.
	Of course not.
	Do we need a time machine at this point?
	Because we're going back, back, back in history.
	But it's culturally respecting people.
	I mean, I think the equivalent of that is men opening the doors for you and like doing shayakuri acts for you.
	Nobody wears hats anyway, you know.
	If men are wearing fedoras these days, they're probably a little fruity.
	Okay, yeah.
	Yeah, it's a bit small.
	Big girl Brian.
	I was going to say big brand.
	I don't know.
	Look, so wait, who would bow for the man?
	No?
	No bow?
	I really think it's dependent.
	Like, if a man like asked you, I think if he was a manly man assertive enough and I was like, oh my god, yes.
	And he was, I don't know, I've never really met a man that just made me, I don't know, all like that level of submissive.
	I want to be, but I've never met that guy.
	Yeah.
	He has yet to show up within my existence.
	So who knows, maybe.
	I don't know.
	If I was with.
	If I was with a man and like I, because if I was with him, I would want to be with him.
	I would want to do those things for him.
	I would want to be submissive to him.
	I would want to make him happy and do anything I can to satisfy and please him.
	So meeting your man on top of this, in front of the door with just lingerie is more submissive than just bowing to him.
	Did you not say that?
	No, because I think you could.
	I think the bow is more submissive because like women wearing lingerie, they just go out into public basically wearing lingerie.
	No, like just to meet you.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, I don't know if it would be.
	But to submit, like, you know, like.
	Also, who cares about a lingerie?
	I mean, if you're a motherfucker.
	I've already seen you naked 300 times.
	You're the guy.
	Oh, my God.
	She's in a lingerie.
	I'm so.
	What if she bows to you 100 times?
	It's the 11th of the year.
	Maybe a maid outfit.
	If she's in a maid outfit, then we can talk.
	But lingerie, that's so vanilla.
	Oh, my God.
	Lingerie.
	Oh.
	Okay, then change it to the maid outfit.
	Wear a maid outfit or maybe, I don't know, what else?
	What's another outfit she?
	What if he wants me to like greet him at the door in like a made outfit and bow to him?
	Like that would be like perfect.
	That's good.
	Go for it.
	You should do it.
	Look, I'm just saying maybe the women, you should just give it a shot.
	Try it.
	I prefer my husband to come in and give me a kiss.
	And I have his laundry done.
	I have dinner ready.
	I have everything ready.
	But I'd rather come home and feel like a connection as opposed to like my superior.
	And I guess that's where I have that disconnect with the bow.
	To me, it's a respect.
	It's like a superior thing as opposed to.
	I'm fine with that, though.
	I'm fine with her thinking I'm the superior.
	Do you not think your man is superior to you?
	Oh, no, he is.
	I mean, he's the breadwinner.
	He's like the caretaker for the house and everything.
	It's just, I also want our kids to see us connect because eventually it's just going to be the two of us again.
	I gotta, we gotta stay connected for us.
	You know what I mean?
	So I think the dynamic of the relationship goes beyond the bow.
	So let's say your kids see the bow.
	They're not just gonna see that.
	They're also gonna see like the way mommy and daddy talk to each other.
	It's not just one small aspect.
	Yeah, and I see the point of it.
	Like it's not that I like totally disagree with it.
	It's more probably just not for me.
	It's curious.
	Yes.
	No, hey, look, it is definitely culturally peculiar.
	Yeah.
	Perhaps in and of itself, it's a bit peculiar.
	Well, I don't think so.
	But I see how other people would see it that way.
	I did remember something else I disagreed with you on too, though.
	Yeah.
	But I'm also like not an like in some ways I'm very normal, but in other ways I'm I go about things a special way.
	I'm special.
	I'm special.
	Honestly, about that.
	About that.
	I'm a special guy.
	I think I have more witnesses, but you said that she does not have to be Asian.
	But then I have witnesses that you did mention Asians.
	And if we were importing like young Asian women to be American plus, and then the lady in the video also was Asian.
	So that's cultural.
	I do think that she has to be Asian for you.
	No.
	Well, okay.
	So like you've seen episodes or something?
	Not.
	But where were you pulling the?
	You heard, you heard something like you said.
	You said ABG before.
	Well yeah no, I did say that.
	But was there something like from a previous episode that you honestly or no, I might have?
	Yeah, I think, like from one of the ones I saw.
	Yeah, I was kind of getting at that.
	So I mean, I like it, I like Asian women, I like white women, I like Latino women.
	Yeah, but I think it's it's still like 99% that she has to be Asian.
	No no no no, I mean 90.
	Look I uh 80 89 no, I honestly, I probably have like a, don't get me wrong, I think Asian women are very attractive.
	I think there can I mean, it depends a little bit there can be certain general personality traits or alignment that manifests itself more so in Asian women, whether they're like Asian or Asian American, even more so than like your typical white woman, I guess.
	But I'd say my preference is more, is actually more, towards white women.
	But that's not to say that I don't find Asian women also very attractive, Latino women also quite attractive, also Italians, who you have mistaken as Latina women, Italians are also attractive.
	Just want to clear and break the ice.
	Good talk.
	I don't know.
	White Asian.
	I think, yeah, they're all good.
	Latina.
	Would you say that Asian girls have more of like the education of your preference?
	Education?
	I mean, they are more probably more willing to, I don't know, bow.
	Yeah, because I've never been able to do that.
	Yeah, it could, yeah, I think it could be the case.
	I mean, Asian American women are pretty much white women.
	Like, they're, I mean, it depends.
	Like, are their parents first-generation immigrants?
	Like.
	I'm just thinking, for some reason, I don't see a Latina bowing to anyone.
	Like, I don't either.
	I mean, I'll just say this.
	I've had white, Asian, and Latina women.
	Hit the bow.
	Hit the bow.
	But you made them.
	You probably had to, like, ask her a couple times.
	Well, it's hard because I'm in this kind of unique position where, I don't know, for the past three, four years or whatever, since I started the podcast, my dating circumstances are kind of unique.
	So, like, girls come to me.
	I'm not saying that to brag.
	That's just, I have no.
	I mean, just, I mean, I've shot my shot with girls in that time period too, but most men can't source from women coming to them because of my somewhat peculiar circumstances of being out there on the internet.
	Girls do come to me.
	And just like, you guys have had that shit on luck for a long time, and it's way better.
	Like, it's just way better to be the, I don't know if chooser is the right word, but like, you just have, you won't like the framing of this, but you have more leverage.
	If the person's coming to you, you can dictate the terms.
	You want to be with me?
	Here's how it's going to be.
	But if I match with a girl on Tinder, I'm not getting the bow.
	I might be able to get the bow.
	You might actually.
	But probably not getting the bow.
	Like, if I match with a girl on Tinder or like I approach some girl at the bar club, it's going to be, I don't have the leverage there.
	Maybe down in the relationship.
	Will you bow for your billionaire girlfriend?
	That's what I was just going to say.
	Yeah, sure.
	In a maid outfit?
	Billionaire.
	No, that would be humiliation.
	I wouldn't do that.
	Actually, wait, would I wear a dress for like a fucking millionaire?
	Fuck, hold on.
	Let me think about this.
	How far are you going to be?
	I'm really against like humiliation.
	Hold on.
	I'm really against like humiliation or degradation stuff in either direction.
	Like if I'm dating a girl, like, I don't know, y'all are into some crazy shit.
	Like, girls, y'all want to be, you guys want to be spit on and called fucking whores and sluts and like, I don't know, all this crazy shit.
	And I am not into either direction degradation.
	Like, certainly for me, like, that's 100% no-go.
	It's kind of boring.
	Wear a fucking dress.
	That's boring.
	What?
	What the fuck?
	Damn, God.
	God, damn, these 18-year-old girls want to fucking be degraded and shit.
	That's crazy.
	It's just like boring.
	If the guy doesn't slap you in the face during such a shit.
	They're both equal.
	Like, they both, like, I don't know, like, respect each other all the time.
	And they're like.
	I don't know.
	Oh, I'll roast a girl.
	Like, my girlfriend, I'll playfully roast her.
	Playfully.
	I might call her retarded if she does something retarded.
	But like, it's never like it's never with like a malicious intent.
	Well, it's not even malicious, but like I don't want to degrade a girl, especially in the bedroom.
	Even if she wants it, though?
	Okay, so here, I'll give a caveat here.
	So, I believe, actually, this is in somebody's notes, somebody's notes that we'll get to.
	I do believe that.
	Okay, so for example, sadism.
	I'm not sadistic, right?
	In terms of like BDSM or whatever.
	Okay, cookie notes.
	If, damn, this girl, this girl's on, you should, okay, send us your BDSM test score or whatever.
	It's gotta take it first.
	But if a girl wants is turned on by like choking or some pain, I think even though it does nothing for, like, it wouldn't be something I seek out, it doesn't do anything inherently for me to be sadist.
	So she's a masochist.
	I have no interest in being a sadist or whatever.
	There are, I think, in furtherance of for the sake of the pleasure of your partner, there are some things I think, even if you're not into it for them, I think you can do it.
	And if it turns them on, that can be to some degree pleasing to yourself, right?
	If it's exciting for them, turns them on.
	I think part of being in a relationship would be maybe it doesn't do something for you, but you love them and it does something for them within reason, though.
	Like, I'm never going to draw blood from my partner.
	I'm not going to cut my partner.
	I'm not going to do gunplay with my partner.
	I'm not going to do knife play with my partner.
	I'm not going to.
	She wants to be tied up?
	Sure.
	That can actually be a bit fun, I guess.
	But like, she, I don't know, she wants to be like hit hard?
	No.
	Abuse.
	No, won't do it.
	I don't care if it's her kink, if it's her turn on.
	There's some guys or there's some guardrails that I just, even if she wants it, I won't do it.
	Even if she consents, I won't do it.
	It's kind of a liability too, especially like if a guy, especially as a guy, like if you're a nobody, you're some dude and some chick wants to do CNC.
	I mean, oh, well, hold on.
	That's why it's called CNC, though.
	What is that?
	If you're a guy who has anything going on in his life, under no circumstance should you ever do CNC.
	Even if you have a contract, even if like you have it on video, she's saying, yes, I want to do CNC.
	Under no circumstance should you ever do it.
	Or should you do rough, like really rough shit with a girl?
	You have way too much to lose as a guy.
	Now, if you're some fucking nobody bomb, you still shouldn't do CNC, but like rough stuff, I guess you can do.
	But it's just a massive liability for men to placate women's.
	I don't want to kink shame, but like placate your sort of demented sexual fetishes and kinks.
	What is CNC?
	What?
	I'm so excited.
	Consensual non-consent.
	Oh.
	So like fake rape.
	Yeah.
	Oh, sorry.
	It's okay.
	Sweetie means therapy.
	Yeah, so I think they're just at least, I don't know.
	It said if they have preference, that's okay.
	But what if their preferences are just very weird?
	Like what?
	Oh my gosh.
	Like feet?
	Like what?
	What's your thing?
	Oh, no.
	Hold on.
	I just remember.
	Did you have a thing?
	No, no, no.
	It's okay.
	I just remember that.
	This is a safe space.
	I just remember saying I had this one guy, but that was like back in Russia.
	And we literally just met.
	And he was like, can you like kiss me in my ear?
	And I was like, I was like, what?
	Like in the ear?
	Yeah, like kiss my ear.
	Like, actually.
	In the ear.
	Yeah.
	Because the ear lobe is fine.
	No, that's actually.
	The ear lobe's fine.
	Like, actually, in the ear.
	I was like, what?
	And he was like, yeah, that's like my thing.
	I was like, I was like, with your tongue?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	And he would like repeatedly say that.
	I mean, was there earwax?
	Like if there was a taste?
	I was like, that's the only, I was like, now I'm thinking about it.
	I don't know why I just thought of it, but this is so weird.
	Like, who did you do it?
	Girl.
	And did you do it as wild?
	It's okay, I've done it too.
	She so did it.
	She so did it.
	And you won't bow?
	You'll stick your tongue in his ear, but not bow?
	What the fuck?
	All right.
	Here, we need a blast.
	Oh, let's do.
	Well, I gotta wait until everybody's back to do the, we gotta do like the images, and then we're gonna do.
	I'm gonna do some of the show notes.
	Okay, Levi's gone.
	Enya.
	Enya, going to your notes.
	You married your husband after, damn, man, we just got into so much.
	Yeah.
	You married your husband after only three months.
	That's right.
	Been together five years going through.
	Almost.
	A little over four.
	Okay, girl.
	Let's go.
	Oh, what?
	Oh, my notes are all wait.
	A little over four.
	It's been four since December 12th.
	Damn.
	I had more notes for you, but they didn't get saved.
	I don't know why.
	Didn't you have, aren't you, you describe yourself as like a reformed hoe?
	I, yeah.
	What?
	How so?
	I used to be a liberal feminist whore.
	And no, and then I converted like slowly towards a more confusing.
	When you say whore, like what were you doing?
	Like fucking around, like, like, you know, like dick hopping.
	Like, I was really.
	Carousel.
	Yeah.
	Do not do that.
	Why do you think you did that?
	Because I, like, and I grew up in the culture of, like, feminism and the culture of, like, this is okay.
	Your free body.
	You know, like, go for it.
	And obviously, I went to a liberal college.
	So, like, everyone around me was doing it.
	Not an excuse because it's like my decisions.
	You know, I make my decisions.
	No one else does.
	So you got to like take these into consideration.
	But yeah, like you, I was doing that just because everyone else was, you know.
	For a second, okay.
	Okay.
	I get the fact that you were probably like young, but you said you converted.
	How was that?
	No, no, not converted.
	No, I said like I around 2020, especially around like the BLM stuff, like I really had like a lot more time to like reflect, you know, look at other sources.
	And like a little later, like that was when I met my husband.
	So like I moved in with him and I just got a little bit more separate from all those like liberal influences.
	And I just had time to like really self-reflect and look at like other things because a lot of what I was seeing was my own liberal ideas.
	I didn't really even know what I was defending.
	Like what was I like believing in?
	What was I acting under morally?
	Okay.
	So there was a whole like reflection process that it took a long time then you know so you had a wild college phase.
	Yeah.
	You said you went wild in college.
	It was part of your journey journey.
	Sure.
	And you're a reformed hoe.
	You made mistakes, you made bad decisions.
	You take responsibility for those actions.
	And let's see, you said that you lost your virginity before your first kiss.
	Totally true.
	How old were you?
	19.
	Okay.
	And then what's the quick story there?
	So the guy that I was talking to, like, so I just went right from like, you know, living a very like Filipino, like, don't do anything.
	Like, I was very, like, shut in.
	Catholic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so when I got to college, I just went crazy because I finally had freedom.
	That like a couple months later, like, you know, like, all right, like, I'm going to have sex because that's like, you know, what I just did.
	And then the guy, though, he was like, I don't really kiss girls who are not my girlfriend.
	So we had set up a rule not to kiss, and I accepted that.
	And then like a couple months later, like, that's when I had my first kiss.
	With a different guy?
	A different guy.
	But that guy, did you continue seeing him?
	Like, hooking up with him?
	I only hooked up with him.
	So I hooked up with him a couple times throughout college and then like once after college.
	So it was like, it was like throughout years, but only a total, I think, of like three times.
	Four times.
	That's kind of.
	Is that a bit of a W for the guy?
	I don't know.
	Sure.
	Like, I feel like that would be a.
	I was hitting a lot of L's.
	That's like an achievement.
	Try to have sex with a girl without kissing her.
	Oh, no, that's actually kind of normal.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Like, yeah, if you're not into the person, I've heard multiple times, like, we didn't even kiss, but we were fucking.
	I've heard it from a couple, my friend.
	Well, I think it can be, maybe this might be normal.
	You kiss initially, but then you kind of don't kiss as much.
	Yeah.
	I would feel disrespectful.
	Disrespected.
	Well, how can you?
	Well, I guess you would have to be a missionary to kiss.
	But a lot of people don't like that.
	Well, even working up to like foreplay or whatever, but.
	Yeah, but how are you going to kiss somebody when there's stuff in your mouth?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	I think.
	By the way, is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?
	No.
	Is it a deal breaker?
	Probably, yeah.
	I mean.
	Rip.
	Probably not.
	No.
	Into the mic.
	No.
	I'd ask some questions, might be a deal breaker.
	Okay.
	No.
	Long term, possibly.
	I'd be like, why?
	What's wrong?
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Into the mic, please.
	If they want you to give them like fellacio, then I assume that you would probably be receiving it.
	And if not, then yeah, that would be a deal breaker.
	Not a deal breaker.
	But if the guy didn't want it, would it not be a deal breaker?
	Yeah, I mean, I think if it's like mutual, then I can respect that.
	I mean, I think it's.
	I think it's.
	We're not going to linger on this topic too long just for sake of time.
	And I've also explained my position a whole bunch.
	Yeah, that's kind of like, I think it's.
	I don't think it has to be tit for tat.
	I don't think it has to be tit for tat, but occasional tat was pretty nice.
	Oh.
	I mean, do you eat pus?
	Damn.
	So, oh boy, I don't even want to.
	My explanations always take so long here.
	Let me just read my notes on it because I don't even want to linger too long.
	It's just a yes or no question.
	Hold on.
	So, okay, look, I'll just be honest.
	So, look, I actually highly value pleasing women and women's pleasure.
	That seems like a pleasure.
	I'll do anything.
	I'll do anything for love, but I won't do that.
	I won't do that.
	But, like, look, I want the girl to come first.
	I want her to come multiple times.
	I want her to come.
	I want her to enjoy it.
	But oral sex, I don't.
	It's, you might think, why he likes big labia.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	I just, it's not really my thing.
	Yeah, I'll do it.
	Okay.
	Exactly.
	I think that's fine.
	That's fine.
	Maybe on Valentine's Day after our 10-year anniversary.
	Why?
	10-year anniversary, I'll do it once.
	And then never again.
	I'll blow her mind.
	And she'll be looking forward to it on her 10-year anniversary.
	And then she'll be thinking about it for the rest of our time together.
	I have so many questions.
	I'll narrow it down to one, which is just why.
	Like, you just don't like it.
	Like, you're not good at it.
	You think it's submissive of you to go down?
	You feel like it's submissive.
	I'm just read off my notes.
	Otherwise, I'm going to meander way too much.
	Okay, so I'm not grossed out by pussy.
	Love pussy.
	The bigger the pussy, the better.
	Well, the labia, anyways.
	Oh.
	Not like looser, but the pussy lips.
	I love pussy.
	Big fan.
	So, okay, not grossed out by pussy.
	That's one.
	I'm not scared of pussy either.
	Some people think I'm scared of the pussy.
	Not scared of the pussy.
	Hold on.
	How do I call it?
	Like, pussyphobia?
	Pussyphobia.
	Okay, so I'm going to break down my seven arguments.
	I'm going to try to do them as quick as possible.
	Oral sex is the leading risk factor for throat cancer in men.
	What the fuck?
	Men are four times as likely as women to develop throat cancer.
	Michael Douglas, famous actor, motherfucker got throat cancer.
	That dude was eating a bunch of pussy in the 70s and 80s.
	Maybe 90s too.
	So boundaries, boundaries, number two.
	Reason number two, boundaries.
	Men are allowed to have sexual boundaries just like women are.
	And yeah.
	I think that's perfectly reasonable boundary to have.
	Women can, if a woman doesn't want to do it, that's fine.
	It's better if she does.
	But boundaries, boundaries.
	I also think this isn't so much a reason, but just something I like to point out: hypocrisy.
	I think there's a clear double standard in terms of how sexual boundaries are respected depending on the gender.
	I think if you guys, well, actually, you guys were, I don't know, maybe deep inside your head, you're like, this guy's gay.
	I've had times where women just dogpile me because I say I don't do it.
	Actually, I had some girl who was on the show previously.
	She saw a clip.
	She saw a recent podcast where this topic came up and she got all butthurt about it.
	I'm not, this is not a girl I'm dating or whatever.
	She's like, eat it.
	DM'd me, eat it.
	And I was like, imagine, I was like thinking, I was like, she would probably be really upset if like some girl was like, hey, listen, I just don't really enjoy doing oral sex.
	She'd be like, whoa, that's really like, and some dude DM'd her, like, suck dick.
	I feel like there's a bit of a double standard there.
	I think if a woman was sitting here and she's like, yeah, I don't suck, well, she was going about it as diplomatically and politely as I was.
	She was like, I don't, she said she didn't suck dick.
	You'd be like, yes, queen.
	Oh my God, I'm so, you're so cute or whatever.
	The girls do or whatever.
	You'd be like, yes, queen, slay queen.
	But I think you guys would be super bent out of shape if you like overheard some frat dudes having a conversation like, yo, if she doesn't suck dick, she's not worth dating.
	She's probably a lesbian.
	You'd be like, oh my God, that's so immature.
	So there's hypocrisy on this.
	There's hypocrisy.
	Let's see.
	Oh, other STD risk.
	So the throat cancer thing, that's HPV.
	But you can get other STDs doing that thing.
	And I think the dating landscape, no offense, obviously this is a very classy panel we have here.
	But look, I think the dating landscape, there are definitely good women, great women out there who don't move like this.
	But you don't always know.
	So I think, and this applies both ways, right?
	As a woman, you can also, you know, proceed with caution.
	I think people are fucking multiple people at the same time or in rapid concurrence.
	I don't know if that would be the right word.
	Rapid succession, one after the other.
	Oh, you fucked Billy Bob on Tuesday, didn't work out with him.
	You're back on Tinder.
	You're back at the club.
	You meet some new guy.
	You're fucking him three days later, a week later.
	So there's STD risk.
	And look, I think a lot of women move.
	I think y'all be dealing with either multiple men or a lot of men, whatever it is.
	The STD risk.
	It's just kind of gross.
	But even if there's no STDs, I just think it's gross.
	No.
	So sorry, let me.
	There shouldn't have been a period there.
	I just think it's gross if even if we exclude the STD component, if she's dating multiple dudes and sleeping with multiple dudes.
	I know not all women do that, but either you recently fucked a guy or you're like simultaneous.
	You're fucking multiple dudes.
	Not saying all women move that like that.
	That is disgusting.
	Like, I'm gonna...
	You're literally making me gag right now.
	Please stop.
	Oh, my God.
	You just clutch your pearls.
	What the fuck?
	You're right.
	It is disgusting.
	You know what?
	She's actually.
	Hold on.
	I take that back.
	You're backing up my point.
	It is so fucking disgusting.
	The thought.
	It makes me gag.
	I'm not even kidding.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, my God.
	Damn.
	That's a girl when you survive in jail.
	Dang.
	Oh, it's like.
	Okay.
	Let's put it this way.
	I don't fucked it.
	She doesn't know.
	She likes imagined the brain.
	She like envisioned this.
	She's definitely not essentially engaged.
	Oh, I hope she's okay.
	She.
	She's actually throwing it.
	It's crazy, bro.
	She actually.
	Wait, this is a whatever podcast.
	That's me.
	No, go help her.
	No, don't, Mary.
	Don't stop.
	Just fucking work your job.
	She's fine.
	She's fine.
	She's being okay.
	Don't worry.
	By the way, that's a first.
	I think that might be an achievement also.
	First time I've made a woman vomit.
	I made a woman vomit.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	Let me put in the title.
	Let me put in the title.
	You know, sometimes women rage quit from the show.
	Women walk off the show.
	That is the first time I've actually made a woman vomit on the whatever podcast.
	Hey, pop a ball of champagne, please.
	Her body rejected you.
	Her body rejected pussy.
	Wow, that's crazy.
	I'm just describing.
	And that's a woman.
	I'm describing pussy eating.
	And that's, oh my, she must really not like it.
	No, you must have like a good visual picture.
	But like, so you can understand.
	Like, she's backing up my point.
	Like, she's fucking puking.
	I'm just talking about eating pussy.
	She's fucking yakking in the bathroom.
	And you guys want me to eat some pussy?
	And she's throwing up.
	Just, we're talking about it.
	Can I go help her?
	And we can't help.
	Oh my God, what the fuck?
	I feel bad.
	She's probably embarrassed.
	She's fine.
	I don't.
	She probably.
	All right.
	Well, whatever.
	She used it out.
	Yo, chat.
	I actually have a trophy ready just for this.
	This is for the, I've been waiting for this.
	The final, finally, after nearly 300 shows, I was so just disgusting.
	I made a woman vomit.
	So let me just play this sound right now.
	No.
	Woo-hoo!
	Grumps me, boys!
	Boom!
	Alright.
	What the hell?
	Oh, boy.
	That's a new one, though, that we've never had.
	Was it because of what I was saying, or was it just...
	She's gotten up a couple of times to get air.
	I think it was one.
	Are you okay?
	Yeah, okay. Yes.
	Okay, do you need some water?
	Do you need a bag, like at the table, just in case?
	If we're going to keep talking about it, I might have to.
	Is it because do you like visualize?
	No, I mean, to be fair, I wasn't.
	I've kind of just been like, my stomach's been turning the past couple.
	Stomach has been turning the past like hour or so.
	And then you just like, yeah.
	Just kind of just got it.
	I have that effect online.
	Just make them vomit.
	Oh, no.
	Good.
	Okay, well.
	Impressive.
	I do have.
	I think I can leave it.
	Thank you for your answer.
	There are two more points, but I'll just say that, look, I'll put it very delicately.
	I think if you're inclined to do that, wait until you're in a relationship and you know the girl's exclusive to you.
	I don't think you should do that on a one-night stand or if you don't know where she's been at.
	You know what I mean?
	Yep, yep, yep.
	I think the boundaries thing was really just enough.
	Like, if you don't want to do it.
	W, based.
	That's all you need is the boundaries.
	Okay.
	How did we get to that?
	I don't remember.
	You are so perverted.
	That's crazy.
	Just wanting to talk about.
	I was just curious about your reason why.
	That was not me.
	You cannot pinch it.
	That was all your fault.
	You just, this entire night, just wanted to talk about sexual deviance.
	I just wanted to know why.
	Just curious.
	Was she even here when I was talking about the ears?
	Oh, don't talk about that again.
	No, she was getting the water.
	Okay, blessed.
	She was getting water.
	Okay, moving on.
	Different topic, different topic.
	Fun topic.
	Funsies.
	Let's see here.
	We were.
	Okay, I think that's mostly it for you.
	And yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, we'll get to it later.
	Oh, the no-kiss thing.
	Or like the no-kiss.
	And I thought it was an achievement.
	Yeah, that.
	Because I feel like that's how do you go straight to sex?
	Like, I. There's other kinds of foreplay.
	Well, sure, but I feel like there's an escalation.
	You know, it's like kiss and then, you know.
	Kissing doesn't also have to be lip-to-lip.
	What if you're in a rush?
	It's a quickie.
	But like first time?
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, it's one thing.
	Okay, this is your boyfriend you've been dating for six months.
	Sure, quickie.
	First time?
	Do you want to?
	I don't, you don't want, I don't want it to be a quickie the first time.
	Like, you got to, you know, take your time with it.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	You're also.
	Okay.
	Tabitha.
	Stay-at-home mom, two beautiful girls.
	You said your early 20s were definitely relationships and lots of hookups you're not proud of.
	Yeah, so actually, same one.
	Yeah, I came from a super like feminist, liberal, like do what you want, explore, like da da da.
	But looking back at it, I was so depressed and just felt like shit all the time.
	And part of it was when I finally got rid of my birth control.
	That like flipped a screw in my head and was like, oh, I feel like me again.
	And when I started getting therapy, so I think people hooking up and stuff need serious therapy.
	Oh, what's going on?
	Has this wait, Mary?
	How long has this been?
	Like, just now.
	Oh, bro, she tripped something.
	If I'm watching online than I am, wait, chat, we're having a technical difficulty.
	In the chat, tell me, is the screen frozen?
	Is this frozen when I go here?
	Is it frozen?
	Is it frozen, chat?
	Oh, I'm still there.
	Is it frozen?
	Yes.
	No.
	I'm seeing a lot of yeses.
	Is it frozen?
	Oh, my God.
	That's okay.
	Give me a sec.
	I'm going to go.
	Oh, I can't even put it on center zoom, I guess.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to try to troubleshoot those guys.
	That's kind of annoying.
	All right.
	Well, talk amongst yourselves.
	Not about oral sex, I guess.
	Or risk.
	Yeah, well, you and I were really similar, apparently.
	And I think a lot of people who actually, like, women who go from liberalism to conservatism go, like, for women, go through a very similar path.
	It took like starting to be honest with myself about what do I actually want?
	What does a relationship actually mean to me?
	Because I let go some like really good relationships because I was so lost and didn't know what it actually meant to be in one because I didn't have a good relationship to look at growing up.
	Yes.
	You know, and I grew up fatherless because my father died.
	So I really think that also like really affected like just how I viewed like men, relationships, and I didn't have like a strong male figure.
	And I think that's really important.
	So, Tabata, did you have like a similar like relationship with your father?
	Where are you kind of?
	Um, my parents divorced when I was really young.
	Um, they both have kind of their own issues.
	I would leave it at that because it's not my place to really put out their laundry.
	But I had a great stepdad, he was definitely there, but it was different, you know.
	My mom always worked, she was never there.
	I didn't have a good, like, feminine role model to look up to.
	My masculine role models were very different.
	It was just interesting to grow up in that scenario and not have that like solid foundation to like strive for.
	And when I started being honest about it, and when I met my husband, it was, I was honest off the bat.
	I was like, this is what I want.
	This is what I'm looking for.
	We're either going to do it or I don't even want to see you again.
	That's crazy.
	Because usually sometimes people have like an opposite kind of like outcome from what you had, like an opposite result.
	Because they had a bad relationship.
	Or not bad, but like a kind of like a strange relationship with their parents, they would kind of latch on to the same habits of also being kind of like indifferent or kind of being like having a strange relationship.
	But it seems with you, because they did not have like a very strong relationship that made you want one.
	I wanted it, but it took me a long time to figure it out.
	And I should have gotten therapy and help way earlier than I did.
	But once I started therapy, I did workshops and worked on myself a ton to get to that point.
	So many people do therapy.
	I just.
	Yeah.
	I think with the hand you were dealt, you're a very strong girl.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	So green.
	Just hoping that I raise my girls a little bit differently.
	That's my hope.
	That's nice.
	Yeah.
	What did I think about therapy in general?
	Because I know it wasn't around for a long while before, and people still had relationships.
	People still had like abusive parents, abusive relationships, and there was no therapies to help.
	I'm not pro-therapy at all, actually, because not all therapy.
	There are some good therapists, but I think most therapy just really affirms delusions, you know, depending on what they are.
	Like, especially like, you know, like, oh, like my boyfriend, like, is being, you know, toxic or whatever.
	Like, and they're just immediately encouraging, like, breaking up.
	I just don't think therapy, like, therapists understand a full picture enough to really give solid and sound advice to anyone.
	I think it became too easy to become a therapist the last few years.
	So it took me like five or six to find someone that made me cry every single time we got together.
	And it was that therapist that actually helped.
	Everyone else was like, oh, well, how are you feeling today?
	And I'm like, I don't know.
	Finishing up some of the notes here for Levi.
	That's your name, right?
	Levi?
	Okay.
	You said, oh boy, hey, it's in your notes.
	I hope it doesn't trigger anything.
	Man you were dating for about three months asked you to give him a rim job while you were about to sleep together, and then you ordered an Uber and left, never to be seen again.
	Yeah.
	That was a very traumatizing experience because I'd never like been put in that position before.
	Nobody had ever like asked for that.
	And I was immediately like, I thought he was like gay because I was like, why do you want like that done to you?
	I mean, I get I'm a girl and I literally had to talk to like people about it because it was like, it was like psychologically messing up my head.
	Wait, is this a guy you oh, no, sorry, you were dating him for three months.
	So this is what, this wasn't like the first time.
	No, we had already like been intimate many times before.
	And so at this point, I was, it was just so shocking that I was asked to do that.
	And then you never talked to him.
	No, I literally ghosted him.
	Besides that, did you like the guy?
	Yeah, I really liked him.
	Like he was otherwise a good guy.
	Yeah, he was like a good guy.
	But what's up?
	And like, otherwise, like, the sex was normal, nothing like weird.
	Yeah, no, nothing.
	It was like literally vanilla, like, nothing out of the ordinary.
	What did he ask you to do?
	A rim job.
	Rim job.
	It's eating the booty.
	Salad tossing.
	Yeah.
	Well, a man's G spa is in his ass.
	So I know that.
	Yeah, that could be why.
	And maybe he was just getting to the point of like feeling comfortable enough to you to where he could be like, okay, like maybe she'd be willing to give it a shot.
	It was, yeah.
	I mean, I can't say I don't feel like bad because obviously he felt like comfortable enough to ask me for that.
	But at the same time, I don't, I just, like you said, Brian, you have, you have boundaries and it was just something I wasn't willing to.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that's like, by the way, that specific thing, like anything to do with, you know, the back door.
	Yeah, it's like, that's like.
	That's questionable.
	That's like, could be a health risk or whatever.
	So thank you.
	It's like, can yeah, that can be gross.
	So that's totally reasonable boundary to have.
	It's absolutely not wrong at all for you to not want to do it.
	I don't know if he's, I don't think he's in the wrong for asking for it.
	Hey, I don't want that.
	Some guys are into it, whatever.
	I personally don't want that done.
	Also, by the way, this is something interesting.
	Receiving.
	I know it's a little bit gross to talk about, but receiving that, it's actually the mouth has a lot of the mouth is actually like kind of gross.
	Like there's a lot of bacteria in there.
	And actually, it's more unsafe.
	I'm good.
	I'm good.
	I'm okay.
	I'm just saying, like, you can get, like, somebody doing that to you can trans, like, can fuck up your microbiome?
	Microbiome.
	If somebody tosses a salad.
	But, yeah, I don't know.
	I don't think he's.
	It's not my thing, but I don't know if, look, the guy's into it.
	Is it gay?
	No.
	I want to say no, but it could be.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, a guy, like, obviously, logically, could a man be strictly heterosexual, only be attracted to women, only want to have sex with women, but want his salad tossed?
	Yes, he's not gay.
	You could also want all those things and have all those things, and you could be gay, but you could be heterosexual.
	If you want a woman to do that.
	Yeah.
	I guess.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	You said it was traumatizing, though.
	So did the conversation was like, hey, listen, would you be willing to do this?
	And that was it?
	No.
	Like, was he pushy with it?
	Did he like show you the butthole?
	No, no, no.
	We were literally just like kissing.
	Like, and he like tried to make it like, I guess, sexy and like whisper in my ear.
	Oh, girl.
	Yeah.
	Can you repeat it?
	Can you repeat it?
	He's just like.
	What did he say?
	What did he say?
	He was like, eat my ass.
	I was like.
	I was like, what?
	I thought I misheard him.
	And he repeated it exactly the same way.
	And I was like, I gotta go.
	I don't feel comfortable.
	I was like, I'm sorry.
	I don't, I'm not comfortable.
	So he was confident about it.
	Yes, that was, that's what I, that's what I mean when I was like, it was just like.
	But you want a guy to be like self-conscious about it?
	No.
	You should text that.
	I don't know what else you go.
	That's why I'm not mid-sex.
	You can ask.
	But no, he didn't ask.
	He was actually.
	He literally told me.
	That's what Elsa was like.
	I was like, giving a come up.
	Isn't that like, look, isn't that kind of like, okay, please, will you give me a blow job?
	Like, wouldn't you prefer the guy to be like, go down on me?
	Wouldn't you prefer, I don't know.
	But obviously, this is different than a blowy.
	This is a new thing.
	You haven't done it before.
	Never even been asked.
	But so, so, okay, he said it because you said you left.
	You dipped.
	You're like, I got to go.
	You ordered an Uber and left.
	Like, so within three minutes, were you gone, gone in 60 seconds, starting Nicholas?
	Literally was like, I was like, I gotta go.
	And he was like, wow.
	Oh, damn.
	Okay, this was major for me.
	It was, it, this is major.
	I really liked him before.
	That was, it was just like so in contrast with like my view of how he was to then like to be like that.
	And I don't mean to kink shame.
	I really don't.
	It's just, it was not my thing.
	Yeah.
	And it was just, like I said, it was just so like 180 from how I had originally viewed him.
	And I like, I don't know.
	I just was like, I don't want to, I don't want to talk to you anymore.
	I'm sorry.
	I just like that was how I felt.
	Do you ever regret your decision or never use Mink?
	Now that you're not in your initial shock state, would you do that for somebody ever?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	How about doing respectable?
	No.
	I don't.
	That's not my question.
	I think boundaries are fine.
	I don't know if it necessarily had to be like he could have.
	I mean, I think this would have just come down to communication.
	He asked for something.
	You're not comfortable with it.
	That's totally fine.
	Who knows how it would have played out?
	He probably would have been like, oh, okay.
	Didn't know you were into.
	Like, maybe the guy could have just been like, oh, I don't know.
	I just thought we could try something out.
	I mean, look, I'm, I don't want that done to me.
	But maybe the guy was like, oh, we can spice things up.
	We could try something else.
	And if you were like, oh, yeah, I'm not into that.
	That maybe that would have just been, that could have just been the end of it.
	It was just like a complete turnoff for me.
	And like, I wanted to.
	You got the ick.
	I feel so uncomfortable there.
	You got the ick.
	I was like, yeah, I got to get out of here.
	You know, though, opening up to the rest of the panel, I was thinking about, I was thinking about this.
	It's like, what if there's something that you're not really into, but like your partner likes it?
	What are you willing to do?
	You know?
	How low can you go?
	No, but I was thinking like there's some things like I could, I'm trying to think of an example I could give, but there are some things that if like I care about my girlfriend and I love her and I'm otherwise not like I'm not into it, but she's into it.
	And I think it's fair, like when you're dating somebody and you're in a relationship to like, I don't know if compromise is the right word, but to like consider your boyfriend or girlfriend's wants and needs, right?
	So there are obviously some things I'm sure we'd all agree, like, no, even if they want it, won't do it.
	But then there's other things where it's like, I wouldn't do it, but I'm okay.
	Like, sure.
	So I was thinking, like, I was like, what if she's into foot stuff?
	You know, like, I'm not into foot stuff.
	But like, if she wanted, like, let's say she, by the way, foot fetishes are way more common with men for some reason.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	I know that too.
	I did hear about something like that.
	Let's say the girl like wanted to like suck on a toe.
	Like my toe.
	Like, I would never ask a girl to do that, but she wanted to do it.
	And like, it gave her massive amounts of sexual gratification.
	And it's my girlfriend and I love her.
	You're like, she, fuck it.
	No, I'm not going to be able to.
	No, look, it's, uh, it might tickle a little bit.
	I feel like, okay, sure.
	You want to, if it you're going to fucking calm down there while you're sucking my, like, fine.
	Okay.
	I'm okay with that.
	Yeah.
	With you sucking her toe or her sucking your toe?
	Her doing mine.
	I don't know.
	With my mouth, I'm kind of, I'm a bit of a germaphobe.
	I don't know if I would.
	She wore socks all day, very protected feet.
	Socks?
	Like fresh out of the shower?
	Fresh out of the shower, maybe.
	I feel like feet are just can be a little bit more.
	How about arches?
	You know, like any part of the foot at all.
	I don't damn specific who's sucking on the arches.
	I don't know.
	Honestly, I don't know.
	I would have to cross that bridge when I got there.
	If she wanted to, like, my toe, fine, whatever.
	I'd sure have fun.
	If it turns you on, if that's all the foreplay I have to do, I have to just lay there.
	Okay, whatever.
	That's fine.
	But like, I don't know if I'd want to.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if I would do it.
	Like, kiss her.
	But I think it's okay, huh?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I think, like, if this is the person you care about and you love them and they got a little something, you know, I don't know if we have to be totally clutching our pearls.
	Like, oh my God.
	I think you can, you know, do a little favor.
	You know, throw them a bone.
	Would you stick your tongue in her ear?
	Ew.
	I don't know.
	Earwax is.
	I don't think so.
	Toes.
	I'm sorry.
	Toes have toe gunk sometimes.
	I know, I know.
	But earwax is a whole woman if you keep going.
	Yeah.
	I feel like it's so common in men to have fetishes over women because I've run into so many.
	Literally yesterday, I posted a story on the cliff and I had like my like foot was in the picture and some guy slid up on my Instagram story telling me to take my socks off.
	I just keep running into men with like feet fetishes.
	It's so weird.
	Yeah, but you women, you guys are gooners.
	Oh yeah.
	You guys are gooners.
	Collaborate.
	Like I saw this clip from a woman and she said that like, you know, there's this thing, this idea that these men are just like fucking sexually depraved.
	You don't, that's the typical man that scratches the surface of the fucking depravity, sexual depravity of a lot of women.
	I think y'all are deep down, there's something inside that maybe it hasn't arisen yet, but I think it's risen.
	Like that were secretly some like it's your axe.
	I don't know.
	I think hidden, either hidden every woman or just I don't know.
	I think some of y'all, I don't know.
	Well, if you look at some of the stuff that like the romance novels and shit, y'all into some weird shit.
	Sometimes it's not hidden for some people.
	Some people are very open about their freakiness.
	And like, actually, I think, like, in terms of the porn that women watch, like the rough shit, like, you guys are into some crazy shit.
	Like, y'all almost want to get beat up or something.
	Yeah.
	Why is that?
	It's because they're more submissive.
	I think it's part of them being submissive.
	I don't know.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Off of that, though, Levi, finishing off your notes, you wanted to talk about lying about your gender to sleep with someone.
	So like trans people.
	Yeah, I think that's really, really messed up.
	Very agreed.
	Agreed.
	Should be, should tell the person.
	Absolutely.
	How do you lie about it?
	Don't they have some girls lie?
	Some girls.
	Not always.
	Oh, you mean like after the surgery?
	I mean, sometimes they can go in the back door, I guess, and not have to see that at all, but I don't know if they ever have falls.
	I've never known.
	Levi, you wrote, hookup culture is ruining men, porn is ruining men's sexual relationships.
	With women, women are never to blame, and it's apparently always the man's fault.
	Modern feminism is destroying women and their ability to form meaningful relationships with men.
	A lot of women don't hold other women accountable because they expect all women to be a girl's girl, even at times when it's unwarranted.
	Yeah.
	Anything you wanted to add to that, or does that kind of was this whole sum up of okay?
	Uh, let's see here.
	Uh, we're gonna do some things from the questionnaire here.
	Um, I need to wait until everybody's back here.
	Why don't we do uh finish up Tabitha then while we're waiting for the panel to fully return?
	Uh, you said that uh you had did you talk about the depression in your early 20s and you're expected to have a career and not focus on family, but now that you're mother, an amazing husband, you can't believe you didn't know this is all you've wanted.
	Yep, did you already kind of get into that pretty much for the most part?
	Uh, you said, Can't say you should be treated like a queen if you don't treat him like a king.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, do you guys agree?
	Yes, should should, yeah, should a woman treat a man like a king?
	Absolutely, I agree.
	Does that not include the bow?
	Yeah, get with the program.
	Uh, well, should men treat women like queens, yeah, if they really love them.
	Well, but don't women expect that like from the get-go they do to deserve that.
	Wait, really quick, I guess, really quick rewinding to the bow video a little bit, same topic.
	I actually think, you know, what fine.
	You might say the bow thing's kind of weird, culturally weird.
	Uh, I think the first time a girl comes over to my house, she should do my laundry.
	Oh, that's the other thing I disagreed with you on.
	What do you think?
	Should a woman do laundry like first time going to the guy's house?
	I say yes, it's not typical.
	I wouldn't like think of doing it, but but it's not like doing a man's laundry isn't culturally weird, no, like you would do it in a relationship eventually, right?
	Oh, yeah, I do.
	Yeah, I think it should be the first time.
	I just are you sounds evasive?
	No, she should just ask me, actually, she should ask you.
	I think you girls need a simp way more.
	You got like you were asking me earlier, why do these guys just want pussy?
	You gotta make yourself get have a competitive.
	I can actually say I've done that before.
	I've gone over the first time I went over to a guy's house, I have offered to help him with his laundry.
	Oh my god, the keeper over here, and he actually told me no.
	Oh, well, okay, and I was like, okay, and he's like, No, you don't need to do that.
	And I was like, Well, I'm just trying to help.
	Your house is kind of messy.
	Oh, damn, nice.
	No, but I think as women, if you're dealing with a certain caliber of guy, how are you going to set yourself apart?
	Look, sex is not really enough.
	Although, there are, look, some guys, they're just happy to get some pussy, you know.
	I think you guys need to do more: cook, clean, like right away.
	If you're interested in a guy, what do you do to keep him around?
	You cook for him, you clean for him, you immediately do what he wants him, you do what he wants you to do.
	And why would you start doing that later on?
	You do that to get him interested, you do that to keep him around.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	Do that because some women will be like some women will uh how do I frame this?
	They'll be like, Well, I'll do it when I'm in a relationship.
	I'll do it three months in, six months in.
	Do that to get him in a relationship, um, right.
	No, exactly.
	That's what I'm trying to argue for.
	And what the other interesting thing is, is women who will have sex with a guy quickly.
	Um, it's interesting to me that there will be women who will object to the bow or object to doing the laundry, like on the first time going to the house.
	But, like, y'all will have sex with a man, y'all will suck his dick, you'll let him.
	I don't want to be graphic, but you know, all that, all that that entails.
	You'll take his load, but you won't do his load of laundry.
	Well, no, I did do all those things for my ex.
	I tried to be, you know, I tried to cook for him.
	I tried to clean his apartment.
	I forgot what he broke up with you, or what was this?
	Yeah, he broke up with me, said the distance thing.
	He couldn't wait for me to move.
	Well, I mean, so doing these things, so okay, doing these things will help you get the guy, but it's not like some magic bullet that will guarantee you the guy.
	In the same way that, you know, like, I don't think, you know, the nice guys, oh, wait, like, well, actually, women don't really like nice guys, but sometimes men think, well, women, so, okay, women will say this: women are not sex vending machines where if you put niceness tokens into them, they'll give you sex.
	So, men, well, I guess you could also, no, men are not like relationship vending machines where if you put in sex, or in this case, put in niceness, so doing the laundry, that they that automatically will distribute to you a relationship.
	I think it'll help your chances, though.
	It'll like it's never going to be a negative, right?
	So, these things, and a lot of these things are pretty like I think a lot of guys will be pleasant, really pleasantly surprised if you go over to a guy's house and you, even if you ask him, and he might even turn you down, you say, Hey, uh, can I help you with anything around the house?
	You're not, you're, you're, you're providing value to him.
	You're like, and he's gonna be like, oh, whoa, like, okay, this girl's helping me out here.
	Because, I mean, it's not gonna hurt.
	Maybe you might feel like if it doesn't work out, oh, I feel like a bit taken advantage of, maybe.
	But, um, so what?
	What else were you gonna do?
	You guys were gonna talk?
	What else were you gonna do?
	Okay, well, let me do some fucking laundry, burn some calories.
	Well, but that's what I would think that we were gonna talk and get to know each other.
	Why would I do laundry?
	That's me going away.
	Well, I mean, it takes like 20 minutes.
	It takes 20 minutes.
	Look, I'm just saying, if you want to do something that is really doesn't, I mean, aside from your effort, doesn't you, you're not spending money.
	If you want to do something that you can basically just employ instantly that could give you an edge over other prospects or could make you more appealing to the guy, then I think, hey, at least try it.
	See how it works.
	But yeah, laundry first aid.
	I do have an explanation for the girls that like start three months in or like a month in because let's say like she starts doing your laundry right away.
	Yeah.
	Love it.
	She's my wife.
	No, she's really wifey.
	Perhaps you could just have your mom over instead of a girlfriend at that point.
	Well, you're not supposed to fuck your mom.
	No, I'm not talking about that.
	I'm saying like if she's just taking, if you're just using a person's help like around the house, that's not, you know, like why a person could start doing it three months in is that she doesn't feel like you're just using her support.
	You're just using her for help.
	You're just using her as, you know, maybe like some mom help you don't have as like maybe a single guy who can't find time.
	But I mean, okay, as the girl, if this is a guy you want to spend time with anyways, and be with anyways, and you find him attractive, and perhaps you're trying to give yourself a competitive advantage or an edge over other women or really make yourself stand out as compared to other women.
	Because look, there's a lot of beautiful women, there's a lot of attractive women, there's a lot of women who are willing to give men sex.
	What can you do that will make you stand out in the current meta?
	So in video games, there's this term called the meta.
	So, oh, fuck, hold on.
	It's an acronym.
	Let me Google it.
	Meta definition.
	Wait, fuck.
	What does it stand for?
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, video games.
	Sorry.
	It stands for most effective tactics available.
	So in video games, for example, like you'll have a meta.
	So I'm trying to think.
	Like in World of Warcraft Classic, right?
	Let me give you guys some fucking game.
	Literally.
	No pun intended.
	Lower the volume, Mary.
	Put it, I don't know, 40.
	All right, so in World of Warcraft Classic, let's say you're like a PVE raiding guild, right?
	And you're speedrunning, you're going to stack warriors.
	You're going to maybe have three mages, one warlock, you know, some priests, some paladins for the buffs and stuff if you're on the lion's side, right?
	You're going to have one rogue.
	You're going to have one rogue if you're speedrunning World of Warcraft for exposed improved exposed armor.
	Because, you know, you obviously, as the rogue, you know, he's not really there for DPS.
	don't be rude he's there to i'm just so confused The rogue in a speedrunning guild is only there for improved exposed armor.
	You're going to stack a bunch of warriors.
	And if you're speedrunning, right?
	Because you're not going to bring a bunch of like feral druids.
	You're not going to bring boomkins.
	You're not going to bring ret paladins.
	You're not going to bring like hunters.
	Maybe you have one hunter for what is it?
	I forgot the enrage mechanic that they do.
	It's trank.
	Trank shot.
	You need trank shot.
	Tranquilizing shot.
	Yeah, of course, of course.
	I guess, yeah, you maybe bring one hunter and that's it.
	And then, but you mostly stack warriors if you're going to be speedrunning.
	So yeah, you can't bring a bunch of hunters and ret paladins and fucking boomkins and druids and feral druids and what's all the other.
	Yeah, so anyways, meta.
	Most meta, most effective tactics available.
	And look, I'm just saying, I do think that, oh, also you have to think about the racials, right?
	Like if you're Alliance, you want dwarf priests.
	You don't want human priests.
	You want dwarf priests for fear ward.
	For fear ward, of course, right?
	You need the fear ward from the dwarf priests.
	You probably want human warriors because of the sword skill.
	The sword skill, it's a passive racial skill.
	You also probably want, I mean, probably best in slot for mage would be Gnome because of the intellect buff they get.
	You also probably want video games while we're doing laundry.
	I don't play video games.
	I used to play video games.
	I gave up.
	No, I used to play.
	I used to be a classic Andy.
	But look, meta, most effective tactics available.
	And a lot of women, like a lot of women are basically like casual rating guilds when it comes to dating.
	Like you're not doing all these things to potentially maximize your, you know, like if you want to be in Molten Core for like, you want to speed through it in 30 minutes and like the, you know, comparison would be you get the guy who's fucking head over heels for you.
	Like the best thing you can do is do his laundry, cook for him, and you know, do that and be submissive and peaceful and like you know, be his girl like that, right?
	But y'all are just running suboptimal raid compositions.
	You're just like, the just you guys, you women are not approaching this from a min-max like raiding perspective.
	Like, you're, you guys, if you guys had World of Warcraft guilds, like, honestly, if you guys did have World of Warcraft guilds, you guys would be, I don't even know if you'd get out of Upper Black Rock Spire.
	I don't even think you would get attuned for Anyxia stop.
	I don't even think you would be attuned for Molten Core.
	Even if you did finally get attuned for Molten Core, you guys are not getting world buffs.
	You're probably wiping on Lucifron three times.
	I don't even know if you can get to Magmadar.
	It's fucking insane here.
	It's completely ridiculous.
	I think also, I mean, you're coming in.
	You guys are not like Priebus.
	You're not, you know, you don't have Enchants on any of your armor.
	You don't have Enchants on your weapons.
	You don't have consumables.
	You don't have World Buffs.
	You don't even have Rally and Cry of the Dragon Slayer.
	You don't have Warchief.
	Well, Warchief's Blessing on the Lions.
	That's a bit more difficult to get.
	But you don't have Songflower.
	You don't have the DMF buff.
	You don't have Dire Maw buffs.
	It's completely fucking ridiculous.
	You guys are in terms of women, how y'all are dating.
	You guys, if you were compared, like doing some allegory, is that the right word?
	If we're doing a comparative analysis of how women move in dating, and like if we were comparing it to World of Warcraft rating guilds, again, you guys are white.
	You guys are spending fucking five hours in Molten Core, wipe after wipe after wipe, wiping on Lucy, wiping on Mag, wiping on Shaz, wiping on fuck, wiping.
	And by the way, when it comes to when you finally get the Ragnaros kill, you get the Phase 2 or whatever.
	Like if you're a proper rating guild, you never get the fuck.
	What's it called?
	Chat, What's it called when you're fighting Ragnaros and he does the he he summons like the little sons?
	What's that called, chat?
	Chat, chat, chat.
	What's that called when you're with Ragnaros?
	What is it, chat?
	Somebody in the chat, help me.
	There's a Ragnaros.
	And you get phase two of submerged.
	Submerged.
	You guys are fucking shit up.
	No, no, honestly, you should be able to kill Ragnaros before submerge, even without world buffs.
	Like even in greens, you should be able to get the kill without fucking a submerge.
	That's how you guys are approaching shit.
	If I'm, if I'm in a fuck, if I've got a guild, a rating guild, and we're getting submerged, that's a G quit.
	Complete fucking G quit.
	I'm joining another raiding guild.
	I don't care how toxic it is.
	I don't care how bullshit, if it's fucking Luke Council, I don't care.
	I am not spending five hours in Molten Core.
	I'm not spending five hours in Molten Core.
	I want to be in there one hour max.
	That's it.
	I understood all of it.
	Can I summarize what you're trying to say?
	Sorry.
	I've never been more interested in what you're saying and confused at the same time.
	I think what he's trying to say is that, you know, women aren't doing the most things to be the most desirable for men.
	Meta.
	Who is this?
	Yes.
	Women are like, if they were playing World of Warcraft, they would not be min-maxing.
	They would be completely like sub-optimal, like all the things sub-optimal.
	You're probably clickers.
	You're probably not even, you don't even have keybinds.
	You're just, you're, you're literally with your mouse.
	You're clicking.
	You're clicking on your abilities.
	Like, that's how women are moving in the dating landscape.
	And I'm just saying, you got to have your keybinds set.
	You got to have your consumables, your world buffs.
	You got to come correct.
	You want to deal with like a good guy.
	You want to get the, you want to land the good guy.
	You want to get the loot.
	You want to get the epics, the purples, the legendaries?
	You got to come correct.
	You got to do the laundry.
	You got to bow.
	You got to cook.
	You got to clean.
	You can't be.
	You can't.
	And women, the guys are fucking up.
	Okay, anyways, let's blast through the rest of the stuff.
	This is.
	All right.
	Okay, also, I think we'll feed you guys later.
	I need it.
	Is pizza?
	Should we get pizza?
	Pizza?
	Maybe we'll get some pizza.
	We'll see.
	Okay, okay.
	Let me just get a little bit of a picture of my animals.
	What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
	What did I put?
	60,000?
	Well, you just.
	60 to 100K?
	Just repeat.
	Yeah, 60 to 100K specifically because I have three children.
	What about you?
	What did mine say?
	Guys, I'm trying to run through this.
	What is the try to pay attention?
	What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
	Mine said 10 mil annually.
	Damn.
	Wait, Jamie?
	Who's Jamie?
	Oh.
	Oh, hold on.
	It was out of order.
	Rude.
	Mary, rude.
	Nope.
	It's okay.
	10 million annually.
	That's your minimum?
	I am like.
	Okay.
	You're not going to sleep with someone after being with them for three years?
	But you still.
	If I'm planning to.
	Okay, hold on.
	I have to put this thought together to make it actually understandable.
	If I'm planning to be successful and rich myself, then my whatever, who he's going to be partner successful and rich.
	So we could not have to depend on each other financially and not have to be latching on each other.
	So what you're saying is you think you're going to be making.
	I'm going to be making.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	You think you're going to be making $10 million a year annually.
	Yeah.
	There's something, you know, I. Maybe I'm a jaded old man.
	I've seen a lot of battles, had a lot of wars.
	And I hate to crush the dreams of the ambitions of a mostly lovely, young.
	You've got the twinkle in your eye.
	Should I be the guy?
	Should I be that guy?
	Anything?
	She's young.
	She's 18.
	I don't know.
	Do you want the brutal truth?
	I'll take it.
	Okay.
	Unwilling.
	I mean, all right.
	You think you'll make $10 million a year?
	I gotta be.
	What do you mean, you gotta be?
	Like, I have to.
	I don't know.
	I just have to put that, like, manifest that and make that happen.
	Do you have a path to get yourself to that goal?
	She's a musician.
	She's a singer.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	I'll let the chat decide.
	Chat, do I crush the spirit?
	Do I?
	Oh my god, I'm such a dick.
	Chat, do I give her a bit of a dose of reality or do I allow her to continue in her manifestation crush?
	Or is it, you know, it's a bit much, you know, 18?
	It's like, come on.
	They got the.
	The world's an oyster.
	Is that the saying?
	What is it?
	The world is a world is your oyster.
	The world is a matter of is it a crush?
	Do we crush?
	Grind to dust?
	Okay.
	Let her be.
	Wait, let her be.
	Don't hesitate.
	Be honest, tell the truth.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Two angles here.
	Well, I think if anybody was a betting man, regardless of the talent you do or don't possess, to make $10 million a year annually is like insane.
	Most musicians definitely do not make that much money unless you're top, top, top, top tier.
	That's like.
	Swale.
	I don't know.
	Swiley.
	I don't know who that is.
	I doubt he makes $10 million a year.
	Oh, no.
	Definitely not.
	I don't know who that is.
	Wait, hold on.
	It's that guy.
	He's not making $10 a year.
	Okay.
	$10 a year.
	Probably not.
	Look, I know that there's a lot of people use auto-tune.
	You can do a lot of manipulation in the audio, but I heard you're singing.
	Are you a songwriter too?
	Yeah.
	So you write lyrics?
	Yeah.
	Well, I sensed she was nervous while singing.
	So look, even hold on, let me say this.
	There's a lot of phenomenal singers out there.
	Just because you're an amazing singer, there's a lot of women in chorus and choir and sopranos and altos or whatever bullshit.
	And they're really amazing singers.
	Amazing singers.
	Yeah.
	Even if you've got an amazing voice, that isn't enough.
	I gotta be honest.
	I don't think you got it.
	This is American Idol, by the way.
	They would have been way worse than that.
	Okay, well, with that being said, um...
	With that being said, um...
	We have more to...
	I'm...
	I can't finish.
	I've been trying since I freaking throw up.
	I can't.
	So it was great talking to all you ladies.
	How about really quick?
	I'll do.
	Let me finish the minimum income.
	I'll ask one further question.
	And if you want, you can.
	Do you want to take a breather?
	You want to take another break and see how you feel in a bit?
	I've been taking like 20 breathers.
	All right, well, here, let me go around the table on this.
	I'll ask one other question.
	And if you really must go for your, you're not feeling well, whatever, that's fine.
	Minimum yearly income.
	It honestly doesn't matter, but I would, if I have to choose 80 to 100K, I don't really care, though.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'd say minimum 100K.
	What about you?
	100K.
	What about you?
	80 plus.
	Guys, you know it's coming to you.
	Come on, let's.
	100.
	Okay.
	I wrote no minimum.
	No minimum.
	No minimum, but I put 40K just because of the bare minimum.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then here, we'll do this one.
	Here.
	Who thinks past should not matter?
	Body count.
	Show of hands.
	Past should not matter.
	Passionate.
	Were you raising your hand there?
	Should past not matter?
	Probably not.
	Matter in a sense of like what?
	Like, I don't know.
	Is it insecure for a guy to care about a woman's body count?
	No, but is it like a deal breaker for that man?
	Okay, going around the table, starting with you.
	Body count.
	It's in the double digits.
	Do you want to do a range or?
	Low double digits.
	10, 20, 30.
	It's like, it's like a, it's like.
	Because you said reformed hoe.
	All right, I'll say it.
	It's 20.
	Okay, sure.
	Single digits.
	Do you want to give a number or give a range?
	High single digits.
	Seven, eight, nine, I guess.
	Okay.
	I honestly don't know.
	Like, when you say you don't know, like, did you forget?
	I stopped counting at like 50.
	Okay.
	When was the 50?
	A couple years ago?
	Yeah, a couple years ago or in the 20s.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, there's a story behind it, but also reformed toe, basically.
	Reformed toe.
	Yeah.
	Reformed toe, okay.
	Yeah, but still single.
	Do you think it might be over 100?
	No, definitely not.
	So somewhere between 50 and well, I guess 100.
	Less than 100.
	Definitely less than 100.
	On the lower end.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you have a list?
	Did you ever have a list?
	American Pie inspired me to make a list.
	I had a list.
	Like on your phone, do you have a list?
	Okay.
	I did once upon a time, but I don't know.
	Not anymore.
	Body count?
	I'm not happy, but I think it's around 50.
	I don't know.
	Around 50?
	Okay, because you said, did you say reformed toe too?
	Okay.
	I'm a reformed toe.
	Also.
	Brian, what's yours?
	Hold on, we'll get to that.
	So you said around 50, right?
	I think so.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think I'm around 55.
	55?
	Between 50, 55.
	Over 30, under 35.
	I don't know.
	Sure.
	Three.
	Three.
	Okay.
	Nine, but I only or eight, but I only count.
	What?
	Nine, but I only count eight.
	One was when I was really little.
	That doesn't count.
	We won't count anything that's unconsensual.
	Okay, that was it for that question.
	We have some.
	What?
	Yeah, yours.
	Oh, my body count.
	Thank you, everyone, for sharing.
	Thank you.
	Is there anything we can do?
	I'm a virgin.
	I'm a virgin.
	I believe you.
	I'm a virgin.
	I've never had sex.
	I don't know what I'm talking about.
	It's all been bullshit this entire show.
	All my previous, all bullshit now.
	Drinking salt.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm a virgin.
	You know, well, what can I say?
	Yeah.
	Does anybody want to be my first?
	What?
	Oh, is there anything open that we can order for?
	But it will be closing as soon as you can.
	Okay.
	Do you think you could grab it?
	I can grab it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, we'll do that.
	We'll do that.
	We'll get it.
	Can I request energy?
	No, can I request a salad with chicken?
	Because I'm allergic to everything on a pizza.
	Yeah, we're going to get a piece of paper.
	Can I double that?
	Sorry.
	Holy fuck.
	Mary pays for it.
	Yeah, you'll get reimbursed.
	Just, yeah, if there's salads, you can get them.
	What do you want?
	Salad?
	All right, we'll get them some salads.
	All right, there it is.
	Unless you guys, do you guys want just like plain cheese or no?
	Can I not have anything?
	Just save money.
	I don't need anything.
	Yeah, I don't need anything.
	Pizza is usually pizza.
	Okay, we'll get like a small pizza.
	Wait, so no?
	I'm fasting right now.
	Fasting, no food, no food.
	I'll eat a salad if nobody else wants pizza, but.
	I want a salad, but not pizza.
	But I don't want to ask for a salad.
	I'm going to get a salad and a pizza, and we're going to figure it out.
	Perfect.
	Okay, perfect.
	All right.
	Rock and roll.
	All right.
	How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
	Me?
	Oh, um, I am five foot eight and uh five four five.
	What about you?
	I'm five seven, so I'm thinking he has to be five eight or up, definitely.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm five eight.
	I would prefer for him to be like six feet or over.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm five five, uh, minimum five ten.
	You said five eleven here, I think, but whatever.
	Decide to give a push.
	I'm five five, probably same height or higher.
	My husband's five ten.
	I am five three, minimum five six, just a little bit taller than me.
	Okay.
	I'm five six, I think, minimum five seven.
	I'm five nine, minimum five nine.
	I'm five one, minimum five five.
	All right.
	Did anybody pick Bear?
	We're going to just, yeah, I don't think so.
	Oh, one person did.
	Katie?
	Is that you?
	Yeah.
	You'd rather cross paths with a random bear over a man?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, we don't have time for that, but disavow.
	Disagree.
	That's fine.
	Okay, we're going to blast through some of the other notes here.
	Leda, you said that, or at least you agree, women are just as physically strong as men.
	First of all, it's Lada.
	Oh, Lada, okay.
	Lada and Lada.
	yeah do you think women are uh are women just as physically strong as men I don't know physically, but honestly.
	Yeah, physically though, that was the...
	Yeah, probably, yeah.
	Women are just as physically strong as men?
	Honestly, does it say physically because I don't...
	Yeah, yeah, that's what it says.
	Honestly, at this point, I don't think so.
	Okay, so maybe you were just mistaken on that.
	Then, is that fair to say?
	Probably fair to say, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You also circle here.
	Men are more privileged in society than women.
	really quick why do you think that is um because they have more opportunities to I feel like their opinion is more valuable in like a society.
	Men's opinion is more valuable.
	Okay.
	I'm not really going to provide much pushback there.
	You also circled for 18, women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
	Why do you think that?
	I think it's circling back to the same point that I just think anything that men say is probably more valued.
	What would that have to do with rights, though?
	So maybe, yes, societally, culturally, let's go ahead and grant that maybe that might be the case.
	Could be the case.
	I don't know if I agree, but I don't know what that would have to do with like rights.
	Right-wise.
	Like, men don't have a right to be taken more seriously as granted by the government.
	That's something to think about.
	Well, on the rights, I'm not really sure.
	Okay.
	I think a few other people, men are more privileged in society than women, also circled on that.
	Alyssa?
	Lisa.
	Sorry, Elisa.
	That's okay.
	Isn't well, okay.
	Men are more privileged in society than women.
	Why do you think that?
	Did I circle that?
	You did.
	Oh, maybe you're mistaken.
	I was rushed, but Katie?
	Same thing that I spoke about earlier, just that a lot of times, like in boardrooms and especially in a medical field, men are typically paid higher or whatever, or paid more attention to.
	Okay, I have some contentions with that, but I don't, I'm not going to really, I won't bite on it.
	In terms of the questionnaire, I don't know if there's really too much else for this.
	Hmm.
	Lada or Leda?
	Lada.
	Lada.
	You said men should pay on first dates, men should be chivalrous.
	You said you would you want to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage?
	I would say I'd keep my last name, probably.
	Definitely, yeah.
	Okay.
	Is that, I don't know if it's different in Russia culturally?
	Like, do women keep their last names?
	No, we don't.
	I mean, we're not.
	So you're just like a feminist, modern?
	My mom kept her last name, but that was a personal choice.
	I meant to circle that one also.
	Oh, you want to keep your last name?
	My man actually does because his last name is like affiliated with his family who's in prison.
	And my last name is King, and he wants my last name because it's cool.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	All right.
	Huh.
	And I do notice, though, that for you, you said men should pay on first dates, men should be chivalrous.
	What about your kids?
	Can they have your husband's last name?
	Yeah, I got it.
	Okay, just you.
	You want to keep your last name?
	All right.
	I guess the reason I bring it up is I think in society, what we see happening frequently is you have a lot of women who want the benefits of traditional chivalrous culture or treatment, but you guys don't want to do anything traditional.
	So men should be traditional.
	Women should be modern.
	The man should provide, the man should protect, the men should pay for dates, the man should be chivalrous, the man should do XYZ.
	But I won't do, I don't do anything.
	I won't take his last name.
	I won't be submissive.
	I'll wear the pants.
	I'll call the shots.
	Seems like a raw deal for men.
	I think you have a very agreeable group here.
	I don't know if you guys are agreeable, but I wasn't sure if you were asking the group or if you were asking one person.
	It could be either is fine.
	Okay.
	Either is fine.
	I mean, I agree.
	I do think that that's kind of a phenomenon that's going on.
	I think a lot of us personally probably are a bit more submissive to our partners or want to be with a partner.
	Yeah, but I think that there's nuances to that as well.
	And we all have our own, maybe we want to be submissive, but we also want to hyphenate our name or last name.
	So, and I do think that there are a lot of nuances within mixing traditional and modern values.
	And I think you just got to find the person that aligns with you for that.
	Yeah, it seems though that, look, I don't think like when it comes to being traditional, I don't think it has to be an all-or-nothing thing.
	I think that tradition can be to some degree a spectrum.
	I don't think, you know, you're okay.
	Well, if both the man and the woman, they're not virgins and they had premarital sex, I think you can still have like a really traditional dynamic, even if you're one or both of you aren't like virgins on your wedding night.
	You can still have like a really traditional dynamic.
	That would be perhaps one of the ways in which you have like an ultimate manifestation of a more traditional dynamic.
	But I think my big thing that I see is it seems like women are treating it a bit like a buffet, and maybe sometimes men are too, where it's like, okay, as the woman, you want all the benefits of modernity, you want the benefits of tradition, and you want to kind of reject the perhaps downsides of modernity and reject the downsides of tradition.
	So it's like, okay, if like we're viewing things through a feminist equality lens, if you believe in equality, women should pay.
	I mean, it should be 50-50 on dates.
	But almost, almost all of you, except for like one or two, you also said men should pay on first dates.
	Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	So it's like, it seems like there is a general idea here that women want to hold on.
	You want to keep the benefits, reject the downsides.
	Well, with my ex, we would split.
	Whenever we would go out to eat, we would split, and that was my choice.
	And I had friends, like female friends, who would scold me for it.
	They'd be like, the man should pay all the time.
	And I'm like, well, I know his situation of like we're both in this industry.
	And so I'm like, by showing my thoughts were that by us splitting the bill, it's showing me that I'm not like expecting him to always pay.
	When he wants to pay, he'll say, no, I'm paying for this one.
	Other times it was just like us splitting.
	I kind of wanted it to be an equal thing in regards to pay for food.
	But whenever he wanted to do it as himself, he would.
	But I don't expect him to.
	So, I mean, I think there's a tendency, though.
	Obviously, some women are fine with going 50-50.
	Some women are fine splitting the bill.
	I would argue that a majority of women, so I'd say over 50% of women, want men to pay for first dates.
	I think as a general rule, I think it is fair to say that women definitely prefer this.
	Some even demand it.
	Some would like it's just a deal breaker if the guy wouldn't.
	And so I'm not really looking to like, okay, there are, of course, there are examples where women go 50-50.
	Or even there's examples where women will just, they'll pay for the date.
	They'll be sent.
	They'll pay for the whole thing.
	I think what I'm trying to get here, though, is more of a general understanding, not like, well, you know, for example, there's this idea of, well, most men are taller than women.
	Well, hold on.
	I know a short guy.
	I know a tall girl.
	It's like, well, sure, of course.
	But I'm interested in the general principle over like outliers.
	The general consensus is that the man is, it's expected for the man to pay on the first date.
	And I don't demand it, but I do kind of expect it on the first date.
	Oh, wait, you expect it?
	On the first date.
	Okay, you expect it on the first date.
	After that, if we're like dating, that's when I no longer assume or expect him to always front the bill.
	Okay.
	I have a question for you, Brian.
	Sure.
	What do you associate as the negatives or the downsides of tradition?
	Because you said they want the positives, but they don't want the negatives.
	So what are you looking at as what women might assume are the negatives of tradition?
	The negatives for women or the negatives for men?
	I guess both.
	Yeah, sure.
	I think probably the big component would be women.
	I don't think all women view it like this, but women don't want to show deference in their relationships.
	Women want equal say.
	You want 50-50 in terms of, well, we're partners and we're, and so from my perspective, from a more traditional dynamic, for example, I'm not, I'm not a massive, I'm not like necessarily a dictator, although don't tempt me with a good time.
	If I'm like, I want to, I'm open to your input.
	I'm not going to just be like, shut the fuck up.
	No, that's crazy.
	You can talk to me.
	You can communicate with me.
	You can tell me what's going on.
	But like, if there's some sort of decision, say there's an impasse, and I don't know.
	I'm like, hey, I want to move to this place because, and say I'm taking care of all the money, everything.
	You're not working.
	And I'm like, hey, but you like living in a certain area.
	And I say, look, for the sake of my business, for the sake of, you know, money, maybe you've got ties and you got friends here and you like it here and the weather's better, whatever it is.
	But I'm like, no, I've made a determination.
	I think we got to move.
	We can have a convo and you can give me your input, but if at the end of that, I mean, honestly, the best thing would be you're just like, yes, I'm on board.
	I trust you, Brian.
	I trust you'll make the decision that's best for me, best for us, best for our kids, best for our family.
	If there's an impasse, I think in a relationship, I think the man should be the tiebreaker, so to speak.
	So the woman can have input, the woman can, you know, give her perspective.
	But I think she should, if the man, if there's a disagreement, the man should be the tiebreaker.
	The man should have final say.
	So I think, but women, I think, want to reserve the right to have a perpetual veto in decisions of the relationship in the family.
	And I think in terms of being submissive, you would defer to your boyfriend or to your husband and give him, because you trust him fully.
	And maybe it's not the choice you wanted.
	Now, just to be clear, when it comes to being submissive, that's not if your boyfriend says jump off a bridge, you can say no.
	You can say no.
	If your boyfriend wants to prostitute you out and make you do an, well, not make you, but he's like, hey, babe, you know what?
	We should make some money.
	You should do OnlyFans.
	You can say no.
	If he's asking you to do something that's morally objectionable, women can absolutely say no.
	A man should only be guiding a woman from a moral high ground.
	I don't know what the right terminology here is.
	But so submission is like, yeah, if your boyfriend jump off a bridge, start become a prostitute.
	Of course, no, you're not going to be submissive and you should break up with a guy.
	If your boyfriend wants to prostitute you out so he can make some money on OnlyFans, no.
	And a lot of women, actually, that's how they get started in OnlyFans.
	Their boyfriend, I mean, most women do that shit just on their own.
	But a lot of these girls, like the boyfriend kind of pushes them into it, you know?
	I know a girl like that.
	Not all the time.
	Like a lot of the time, the women just do that shit on their own.
	But yeah, I think she ought to defer to my decision making.
	She ought to defer to my leadership in the relationship.
	I think that takes finding a man that knows how to lead and also makes good decisions.
	And I think that that's important too.
	Yeah, sure, of course.
	I mean, you should, but I would hope that the guy you pick is a man that you can trust and that, you know, does have those positive characteristics.
	Yeah.
	I mean, hopefully, but I mean, a lot of women do get stuck in situations that are less ideal or, you know, they think that he's going to make a good decision and then it ends up there like in the shitter.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, some of the some of the negatives too might also be just more general components of being of deferent, of showing deference, of being submissive in a relationship.
	I think, I mean, the last name, for example, I think if you want the guy to marry you, that is more traditional, then she should change her last name.
	The kids should have the father's last name.
	I think that I think a man should, the man, like it's best if the woman doesn't have these behaviors to begin with.
	But I acknowledge that a lot of society, both men and women have been brainwashed to a degree.
	They have been culturally and socially conditioned to view things as acceptable.
	So for example, if I'm in a relationship with a girl, I think on her own, without me having to even lead her, she shouldn't be posting thirst traps.
	She shouldn't be, she shouldn't be, she should be trying to dress to some degree modestly.
	She shouldn't be going out to the club with her single girlfriends.
	So if I was in a relationship with a girl, I don't need back talk about, you know, she's like, oh, hey, I want to go out with my girlfriends.
	I get drunk.
	I want to go on a girl's trip to Miami.
	Not happening.
	You want to be single.
	You can be single.
	I'm not going to be controlling in that sense.
	You want to do that.
	Goodbye.
	Go back to the streets.
	She belongs to the street.
	You go.
	You want to do a girl's trip to Miami.
	It's over.
	Well, what if she wants to do a girl's trip in general, but like you or girls are also married and in committed relationships?
	Would that change it?
	I think there are circumstances that might make that more acceptable.
	However, I think your single feet, if a girl's in a relationship, the single female friends are a terrible influence.
	They miss their girlfriend.
	They want to keep doing hood rat shit with her.
	They want their single girlfriend back.
	I think single friends can often be like completely catastrophic to a relationship.
	So, you know, all her other friends are married.
	There could be some leeway there.
	Generally speaking, though, she's going to go to Miami.
	Do you just not trust that she will not do anything?
	It seems like a little bit of a, like, for lack of better words, it just seems like a little bit of trust issues here, you know, like a confidence in your relationship.
	I don't think it's really necessary.
	I wouldn't say it has to do with confidence necessarily.
	I think it's just about, as a relationship-minded guy, I think in terms of women look to men to protect.
	And protection isn't just, oh, there's a home intruder.
	Oh, there's some guy who's, you know, being an issue or whatever.
	I think I need to sometimes you got to protect a woman from herself.
	And women will sometimes do things that are detrimental to a long-term relationship.
	Maybe that's because of the social cultural conditioning where, hey, it's okay to go.
	Maybe you had a boyfriend who didn't have boundaries or didn't know to tell you.
	Yeah, I'm not cool with you twerking in a club.
	I'm not cool with you dressing a certain way.
	I'm not cool with you moving like you're single because now we're in a relationship, right?
	You should move like you're in a relationship.
	And I personally, I think going out to bars and clubs and nightclubs, that is not behavior becoming of a woman who's in a relationship.
	Why?
	What about men?
	Well, let me finish my point really quick here.
	And I think this comes down to when a man gets in a relationship, the female expectation on the man is like, you would think it's cheating if I approached a girl at a club, right?
	Yeah.
	No, no, if I approached a girl and hit on a girl, would you think that that's cheating?
	If I'm in a relationship, right?
	Women don't approach men.
	So we're not the same.
	Like, if to use, I guess, an analogy with like animals or something, like you guys have different, this is going to sound cringe and autistic.
	You guys have a different tool set.
	You guys have, you know, maybe an animal has claws and another has horns, right?
	You want men to put away their horns.
	I should have thought this one through.
	This is actually, hold on, let me abandon that because I can't even think through the fucking analogy.
	Scratch that.
	What I'm trying to get here is men and women have different mating strategies.
	So as men, when we get into a relationship, there's an expectation that we give up our edge.
	We give up the way that we meet women, which is to be proactive.
	But women are passive.
	You are passive when you're dating.
	You won't go up to a guy.
	Okay, don't give me.
	Well, I know sometimes one time I approached a guy.
	I get it.
	Sometimes women do go up to men.
	But women, you have a passive dating strategy.
	You don't go up to the guy.
	You put yourself in a position to be approached.
	You go to the club, knowing the guy will approach you.
	You go to the club.
	You go to the bar, knowing men will approach you.
	You post the thirst trap photo on Instagram.
	You don't slide into dudes' DMs.
	You post the story.
	You post the Instagram post because you know guys will DM you.
	And so we ask men in relationships.
	You ask men, we got to give up our edge.
	Of course, it would be cheating if we approach a girl, but you still go to the club.
	You're still sourcing the entire time we're in a relationship.
	Oh, I've got a boyfriend, but here's my Instagram.
	You are still sourcing when you're in a relationship.
	Now, you might not cheat.
	There's women who can go to the club and they would never think about cheating.
	I don't care.
	There's an appearance of impropriety that I'm not okay with.
	Also, even removing the component of her willfully cheating in terms of being a protecting her, women get drugged at the club.
	Also, by the way, just to be clear, this could be from my perspective, maybe you guys are like, whoa, okay, I date guys who drink and blah, blah, blah.
	I don't drink.
	I don't go to the bar.
	I don't go to the club.
	I don't go to the party.
	I don't do drugs.
	I don't do any of that.
	So I would hope, look, if my girl drinks a little bit, not at the club or the bar, but if she's hanging out with me and she wants a bit of wine or whatever.
	Although what I've found, actually, even if I've dated a girl who used to drink, she stops drinking when she's with me.
	I think, so it could be just a complete mismatch of like respective, I don't know what the right word is, respective approaches.
	Like values, like I'm not in the, I don't go to the club, I don't go to the bar, I don't drink.
	I value sobriety is going to make it sound like she used to be a drug addict or an alcoholic.
	I value a woman who does not partake in that stuff, right?
	So, I think honestly, but the type of girl that would be right for me would probably be some girls just don't have an interest.
	Like, some girls are like, I don't go to the club.
	I don't go to the bar.
	However, though, I think it is conceivable that I could meet a girl who she's going down that path being a little fucking, and I can fix her.
	Oh, God.
	I can fix her.
	But yeah, she's got to, so I think to finish up on the different dating strategies, men are proactive, women are passive.
	I think if I have to give up my proactive approach, women have to give up their passive approach.
	And that means you got to cut out the bars and clubs and posting thirst traps on Instagram.
	By the way, also, I hold men to account too.
	Men in a relationship should not be liking other girls' photos.
	They shouldn't be following some fucking Instagram thought, some Instagram model.
	They shouldn't be following any other girls.
	Would you go to the club with your girlfriend if she wanted to go, like, let's say every other weekend?
	So she's not going with her girlfriend, she's going with you.
	She doesn't want to drink.
	Let's say she just wants to dance.
	Oh my God, why don't you dance?
	There's like no.
	Listen, we need to have seven children.
	You're going to have seven children.
	Seven sons.
	You're going to be barefoot in the kitchen.
	And I'm going to, everything's going to be taken care of.
	You're never going to have to work again.
	And we're going to live in a nice house and all your needs are going to be taken care of.
	And we're going to build a dynasty.
	Our children are going to be warriors.
	They're going to be fucking legends.
	And you don't need to worry about the club.
	Fuck the club.
	Let's focus on dynasty.
	Let's focus on legacy.
	Fucking you want to go to the club and fucking dance to Usher?
	What the fuck?
	But you could dance anywhere.
	What if she doesn't want to dance to Usher?
	What if she's a ballroom dancer and the only place to go is to a dance hall, country dance hall to go swing dancing?
	Because swing dancers go.
	I don't like to dance.
	That's how my husband and I met.
	I'm a ball romancer.
	I'm a dancer.
	So ladies, focus on the big picture here.
	Focus on the big picture.
	It's not about you.
	We get it.
	No, it's not.
	No compromise.
	Well, it's not about me.
	It's about family.
	Familia.
	Blood.
	Amelia.
	Blood.
	Family.
	You guys want, you're wasting your time at the bar and the club.
	Let's pump out seven sons and build a fucking clan.
	You're almost there.
	I forget seven daughters.
	Well, we can have some daughters too, but build a fucking clan.
	Have your eye on the bigger picture.
	You want to fucking dance to Sway?
	What the fuck?
	I think the club is the biggest waste of time, money, energy.
	It's only for single people.
	It's like Tinder in real life.
	Yes.
	just groups of people trying to fuck each other like there's no point totally go and have a good time and yeah maybe together Yeah, exactly.
	They're both into that.
	Go together.
	But that's just like when I was working at the strip club, I had a couple come in together and go to the strip club.
	Very common.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, that happens, but no, I wouldn't do it.
	And then going just to the club with your girlfriend, no.
	Also, I just think it's generally not safe.
	Is she allowed to go hang out with her girlfriends?
	Yeah.
	You want to get brunch?
	Go for it.
	I'm not like fucking.
	Look, I'm looking at my you guys might think I'm like super controlling or whatever.
	I'm not checking the girl.
	I don't, I'm not looking at your phone.
	I'm not fucking, where are you going?
	Where are you?
	I don't do that shit.
	I don't do that shit.
	Right.
	There's just certain behavior I don't want my girl doing.
	But yeah, she wants to go get lunch or dinner with her girlfriends.
	That's fine.
	You can't be at the club, though.
	You want to go to Trader Joe's?
	Go to Trader Joe's.
	Never go to the club ever again.
	What if it's like your best friend's bachelor?
	Oh my God, that would be so hot if some girl came to me.
	Brian, I will never go to the club again.
	That's how much I respect you.
	That's a huge win for the guy.
	And it's a win for the girl.
	I don't think it's disrespectful to want to go dancing.
	It's disrespectful.
	It is, but it's not if it's like with your partner.
	That's like what gets me.
	It's like you, you can't, it's not even like an activity you want to participate in with her.
	Like to have, like, it's like hiking.
	It's like a date.
	Just go as you're doing something together.
	It's boundary.
	I know, but, you know, it's just, it's a fact.
	There's no wiggle room.
	There's no compromising.
	Like, if the girl wanted this, at least a little bit.
	Once a month.
	Finding a dance.
	What do you talk?
	Every other week?
	Once a month.
	You can suck in the corners.
	By the way.
	Are you addicted to the club?
	Do you need to?
	No, but you know what?
	My husband and I have a good time dancing together.
	But he likes that.
	He doesn't like that.
	That's a compatibility.
	I don't like it.
	I think the club is.
	I think the club is.
	I just also, I don't, look, if she goes alone, I just don't, even if, like, look, she'll never cheat on me.
	Whatever.
	It's just not safe.
	It's not safe.
	She could get fucking something put in her drink.
	Or, you know, who knows?
	I'm like, I have to consider what are the potential risks.
	As her protector, too, like you, yeah.
	I think the club is stupid.
	Look, and I also think part of protection, it's not just even like the physical, even, you know, the, you know, home invasion, but even the club.
	But also, I think you have to protect a woman's spirit and you have to protect her mind because there's a lot of bullshit propaganda out there.
	And I think both men and women can succumb to propaganda.
	And as the man, you have to protect your wife, your girlfriend, your kids, your family from that propaganda.
	Are you going to send your kid to public school?
	Who knows who the fucking teacher is?
	Maybe you should, maybe we're going to homeschool our kids.
	I don't know who the teacher is.
	Are they going to who knows what they're going to fucking do to the kid?
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	I need to protect and insulate my family from propaganda of the spirit of the mind.
	Why would you guys want to even go to a club in the first place?
	Like, what's the point?
	A club, a bar.
	Oh, I completely disagreed with that.
	You aren't here, but I think clubs are for single people and stupid.
	But I go with even single.
	Like, what's the point?
	I agree with that too.
	Like, I don't drink or smoke.
	So I kind of be like.
	For the people who do drink, that's usually where it is.
	It would be like a bar or whatever.
	Drinking in your house is kind of sad.
	I mean, sure.
	Is it like a self-gratification thing?
	Probably just like, yeah, like a self-gratification thing like most things.
	So the only reason I personally go to a club, because I've been sober since I was 17, is I'm a trained ballroom dancer and I swing dance and I do every single partner dance.
	So I do Latin, I do two-step, I swing, all of that.
	And a lot of swing dancers go to not your typical club, but specifically a dance hall, or I go to socials.
	So that would be why I go to a club and I only go every so often because I'm the only person in my friend group that dances.
	Do you dance with men?
	Like they're that are not your partner dancing.
	So, you go to a social and then swing dancing.
	Also, you cannot let your wife or girlfriend take jujitsu classes with a private instructor.
	You can't.
	Look, you can't let them do this shit.
	Tom Brady.
	Oh, go take some jiu-jitsu lessons.
	Oh, my God.
	I will say that his wife cheated on him.
	Yeah.
	Now she's pregnant.
	Or now she gave birth.
	Yeah, yikes.
	I don't, I haven't really gone to clubs in a while just for like single dancing, whatever.
	I have musician friends who perform at clubs, and I go there to support them and listen to their music.
	And the times that I've gone, I was for the most part sober because I went by myself, because I wanted to keep an eye on my surroundings and who was around.
	Yeah, I mean, look, there's obviously different venues, there's different kinds of events.
	This is obviously going to play factor.
	I mean, I think the clear-cut thing here that I'm talking about is nightclubs and bars.
	These are you're not wrong about the passive thing because even when I would go to a club, to a marquee or towel or something to watch a musician perform, I would have guys come up to me while I'm just minding my own business and trying to offer me drinks.
	And it's that's when you phrase it that way, the passive thing, it's like, I get that.
	Do I engage?
	No.
	But that's just me.
	A bar is going to bars with a friend is just like just stepping outside of the apartment and having a drink with a friend at a sit-down spot, like facing each other.
	I think, I guess, to the final thing on this topic, and then we're pretty close to the end here.
	I think that we, when it comes to like the king-queen treatment, traditional treatment, etc., I think that we teach women how to expect men to treat them.
	I don't think we teach women how to treat men.
	And conversely, we teach men how to treat women, but we don't teach men what to expect from women or how to expect to be treated by women.
	Well, I think that's what feminism did to everyone.
	L-feminism.
	Like, it totally reinvented how women think into being the alpha and they deserve this and this and this and this.
	And then they don't have to give anything back.
	And that's how all of my past relationships ultimately failed.
	So.
	Ava?
	Oh, hi.
	You've had pretty terrible dates.
	Like, you've been stood up twice in one night and being left at the theater.
	So twice in one night.
	So you had like two dates?
	So I had a date set up to the movies.
	I paid for it and everything.
	I pre-ordered the tickets and he was supposed to meet me there.
	He texted and was like, I'm on my way.
	And I showed up and he ghosted me, didn't show up.
	And so then I like, I went down to Walmart, grabbed my snacks, came in.
	I was like 30 minutes early.
	And I was going to go watch the movie because I didn't just order these tickets to go home.
	So I'm sitting there and I get like this message from this other guy.
	And I was on a dating app for literally a day.
	It lasted a day.
	And then I was like, I'm over this because of this experience.
	But he messaged, asked what I was doing.
	And I was like, well, funny enough, I got stood up.
	So I have an extra ticket if you want to come.
	He was 40 minutes away.
	And so he was like, yes, I'm going to come.
	He shows up.
	He gets his ticket.
	He comes in.
	He sits down.
	He's sitting down next to me for maybe like five minutes.
	And he like looks at me and he's like, I'm going to go run to the concessions.
	Do you want anything?
	And I said no.
	And then he just like left me there.
	He never came back.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	What movie was it?
	Sorry.
	I think it was about Predator Badlands.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	And I actually totally forgot about this, but I had a boyfriend for two days in October.
	Two days?
	What?
	Two days?
	Well, I actually offered to stay because I was like, I'll stay with you and I won't go to Texas.
	And he was like, no, like, go to Texas.
	And I was like, okay, well, because he didn't want me to like make a decision because of him, even though I feel like that was, it was totally acceptable to request that of a woman.
	And he decided that he didn't want to date me because he didn't, his words were, I don't want you to go to Texas for two months.
	And then somebody else better come along and I have to call and tell you that I found somebody else.
	And he also told me that he didn't, he wasn't ready to not be single yet and that I just wasn't a good enough option.
	You also wrote that you don't think that I'm extreme enough.
	You said you think a lot like Nick Fuentes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Would you date him?
	Nick Fuentes?
	Yeah.
	Does he mog?
	I would actually.
	You would date Nick?
	I would.
	Okay.
	What is Nick?
	He's got some strong stances.
	No.
	Especially about women.
	Yeah.
	I agree, though.
	I mean, biblically to that standard, everything that he says is very accurate.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Katie.
	Yes.
	Yep.
	We talked about the 11-day-long date.
	We already talked about that.
	You dated a guy for, oh, this is interesting.
	Dated a guy for a year and a half that kept you secret because why?
	So this is, I kind of touched on it already.
	Did you?
	Yeah, he basically, yeah, he essentially that.
	So I've been modeling for nearly 15 years and basically he didn't like that.
	And then coming to find out, also, I am divorced and he was embarrassed of that as well.
	And so I also wrote a book.
	I'm a domestic violence survivor, rape, and assault survivor, and I wrote a book about it.
	And at the end, I talk about victim mentality and how it keeps you from achieving your dreams.
	And he was extremely embarrassed of that and didn't agree with it and told me that I should burn my book, even though I wrote it to empower women that have gone through these things and men as well that have gone through these things.
	Yeah, and he just didn't like it.
	And it's the same guy that after that told me he wouldn't take me seriously.
	And then after we broke up, told me that he has chosen me to have his children and that I should be oh so honored.
	And I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
	So.
	And he hid you for a year and a half.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Nice.
	Can I add to my dating experience really quick?
	Is it interesting?
	Yeah.
	So I actually just recently had a date with a guy and we were sitting at the dinner table and he asked me what I was looking for.
	So I described kind of like what I was looking for in a guy.
	Let's do this.
	I feel like salads.
	Are you fine waiting until after the show?
	Like we can just put in the refrigerator?
	That's fine.
	Are you guys?
	Who else?
	Can you guys wait?
	I can just wait.
	We're almost done.
	So let me know what you want.
	Does anybody want pizzas?
	Okay, though.
	Here.
	Sorry, Mary, can you take the sorry?
	Take the salad back.
	If anybody wants pizza, I think that's a bit easier at the table.
	I feel like salad's just way too complicated.
	And then we'll give it, we'll divvy it up a little bit.
	Okay, quick.
	We were sitting at the dinner table.
	He asked me what I was looking for and a guy, so I told him.
	And he told me that he didn't think he was the guy for me and that I described his best friend.
	So he proceeded to FaceTime his best friend at the table and try to pass me off.
	Oh my god.
	I think that's okay.
	That's a word.
	I think that's okay.
	No, like it didn't bother me at all.
	It was just that's just the craziest thing that had ever happened.
	It's actually really sweet of him.
	I don't think that that he was like if I don't know if I was on a date with a girl, like, yeah, maybe it stings a little bit if she's like, hey, look, I'm well, I mean, if she's polite about it, I don't know if it's a good match, but I know a girl who you would like.
	I mean, better than just a rejection.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're getting a I don't know.
	He told me that he was like, I think I'm too much of a degenerate for you for his exact words.
	I think that's fine.
	Which I thought was such an interesting thing to say on pizza.
	You know, he knew.
	Did anybody else want pizza just for now?
	No?
	Just one?
	Oh, great.
	Okay.
	That was a kind of pizza.
	What a waste.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, I guess I should have checked better.
	It's all good.
	Okay.
	Blasting through just a few more.
	So I know you said that you don't want to ever be pregnant and give birth.
	What would you do if you did get pregnant, though?
	Panic.
	Would you get an abortion?
	Full-blown panic.
	I think it would honestly be circumstantial because whenever I got pregnant before with my ex-husband, we initially, it was kind of his decision.
	So again, to submitting to a man or whatever.
	He wanted us to get an abortion because he was leaving the country.
	He got a contract to work overseas.
	And so it just wasn't a good time.
	I was still in college.
	He had just finished college and he was leaving.
	It didn't make any sense.
	And then I ended up having a really horrid miscarriage.
	Anyway.
	Did you have more than one miscarriage?
	No, just the one.
	Like in total?
	Yeah.
	Okay, just one.
	Yeah.
	Are you like, would have you thought about like getting sterilized or something?
	I have, but would you, or you just take birth control or whatever?
	I don't take birth control because it really messes with your hormones.
	So I'm just rolling the dice there.
	And I'm just very, I'm very safe.
	And then I track my cycle and all of that.
	So, yeah, but it really messed with more with my hormones.
	I was on birth control for like 10 years and it actually that actually can make you sterile.
	Jamie, your notes.
	Okay, you do OnlyFans?
	What kind of weird shit do you do?
	Closer to link, please.
	Like what do I post?
	Like the VG content?
	No, I only do solo content and I would eventually like, if I can, do like girl on girl content.
	GG, okay.
	I actually don't think there was anything else in your notes, but you I did notice you have an interesting tattoo.
	You have a lower back tattoo.
	Are you can you show it to the camera?
	Just, you know, don't moon us or anything, but turn more, turn more.
	No, no.
	Lift up.
	Nope.
	But turn.
	What do you mean?
	It says, okay, it says made in heaven.
	Wait, can you?
	Whatever.
	They get the idea.
	Made in heaven.
	No, we.
	Okay, we got it.
	Made in heaven.
	Yeah.
	What is that?
	Just curious, what's that one?
	I also have one on my bikini line.
	I'm okay.
	That one says eat me.
	Oh my god.
	What?
	Yeah, there's a little heart outline that says eat me in it.
	She's a surprise.
	What?
	Boost audio.
	Eat me?
	Yeah.
	Like oral sex.
	Yeah.
	Is she still here?
	No.
	Okay, we're good.
	Good.
	All right.
	She's going to fucking puke again.
	My God, bro.
	Okay.
	Eat me.
	Like, the insult or oral sex.
	Have you guys ever heard that song Peaches and Eggplants by 21 Savage?
	She got a tattoo by her bikini line that says, Eat me.
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	Oh my god.
	I've never heard of that song about you.
	I know it.
	I don't know.
	It's a song, and like I got the heart outline, and I was like thinking of that song when I was getting it.
	So I was like, oh my god, maybe I'll just get that tattooed.
	I was like, okay, period.
	I once, this was a long time ago, and I've revised my well, sometimes you don't know what a girl's dealing with in terms of tattoos until her clothes are off.
	I went on one date with this girl, and I think perhaps luckily we didn't end up having sex, but you know, I think we kissed or whatever.
	And right above her pussy, she had a tattoo that said YOLO.
	Oh, gosh.
	It's funny.
	Good thing I didn't.
	Who knows?
	But that's not a good idea, that's a bad sign.
	A YOLO tattoo above the pussy?
	Oh, yeah.
	See, I wouldn't do that, but this one's like cute and dainty.
	But what made in heaven?
	What does that mean?
	Made in heaven.
	It's a lower back tramp stamp.
	Made in heaven tattoo.
	I liked it.
	Were you made in heaven?
	Like, is it about you?
	I mean, it can be.
	Is it about your ass?
	I mean, just think of it when I don't know if I can say this.
	When you're like in that position and like, you know, you're and you're staring at the tattoo like I mean, I just so you weren't made in heaven, but so when the guy's hitting it doggy style, he sees it.
	I think I just thought that the tattoo placement was like good.
	The tattoo like was good.
	But you're like, do you have like a breeding kink or something?
	Like a breeding kink?
	Like you want to.
	So what is being made in heaven though?
	Like it'd be your child or no, it's like the body.
	The sexual act.
	I would say the body sexual act.
	Like he's hitting it.
	He's reading it like that.
	Into the mud.
	He's hitting it.
	He's reading it.
	And he's like, made in heaven.
	Damn right.
	Wait, he's saying it while he's hitting it.
	No, he reads the tattoo and he's like made in heaven.
	I don't either.
	So like, what if I didn't have it?
	Like, what if here, like, above my penis, I just like had like, this is the best sex of your life.
	I would hope it would be.
	Well, I would hope it would be if you have it tattooed.
	Oh, there's only one way to find it.
	I feel like you think it's some loophole or something.
	Like, well, if I have the tattoo, it has to be heaven.
	Like, what if I just, what if I'm a premature ejaculator, but I'm like, this is the best sex of your life?
	You're manifesting.
	Yeah, you could.
	I could be manifesting it.
	I could be manifesting it.
	That's manifesting that I'm made in heaven.
	I thought it was like a tattoo like you were made in heaven.
	So I was thinking you should get the tattoo revised.
	It should say made in Cancun Spring Break after Backstreet Boys concert.
	I will say that they did perform in Cancun, I think, in the late 90s.
	I will say that depending on tattoos, if I can't really.
	And I have some, but it's like a certain style.
	If I don't like the type of tattoos you have, it'll be hard for me to be with you just because I have to continuously stare at them.
	And it's like, you do what you want, get what you want, but I can't.
	Who of your house tattoos?
	Show of hands.
	Tattoos.
	You know what I just realized?
	My tattoo.
	I could have proved it to you so much longer ago.
	My tattoo is my son's name.
	My first baby.
	What does it say?
	Stefan.
	Stefan.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	My first son.
	No, that's good.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	No tattoos?
	Am I the only one that doesn't have a tattoo?
	I don't have anybody else.
	I mean, me and Brian.
	I have a sleeve.
	We're the only ones without tattoos.
	Great.
	Now I feel bad.
	I was mean to her earlier.
	Okay, don't listen to me.
	I'm a grumpy, old, jaded man.
	I don't know.
	Don't listen to me.
	Don't listen to me.
	Yeah, now you find out that I don't drink, don't smoke, don't have tattoos.
	Oh, I didn't know about them not drinking and smoking.
	No, but I'm just saying.
	It's not even that.
	I just, you know.
	I gotta apologize.
	Gotta apologize.
	Anyway, so you want an apology?
	No, I don't know if I look.
	I don't know if an apology is warranted, but I will say, look, you want to pursue your dreams, pursue your dreams, you know, you want to do it.
	Don't listen.
	What do I know?
	Yeah.
	What do I know?
	I don't know anything about music.
	I fucking listen to Pearl Jam.
	Well, Pearl Jam is great, but I don't listen to like modern music.
	I don't know who Sway Lee is.
	Obviously, I'm not.
	Obviously, I'm not a cool guy.
	Obviously, I'm not in the know, you know?
	You know, I'm not in the know, you know?
	But, you know, listen.
	I will say, though, in the one criticism, you said that the minimum, and I don't know if you're trolling, but you, because you wrote a smiley face and a heart.
	What is the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	You said $10 million.
	I'm sorry, I had to bring you down.
	I had to bring you back down a little bit.
	$10 million, but you want $10 million because you'll make $10 million.
	Yeah, so I hear women say this.
	Well, I'm going to make this much money.
	So, well, of course, I want the man who makes the same as me or more.
	But, yeah.
	It's kind of like if I don't make that amount, then I don't expect him to make that amount.
	No, but you believe you'll be making that much amount because of the career.
	I mean, I'll work on it.
	Would you give up your career for the perfect man?
	Like your dream to sing.
	Would you give it up as a career for the perfect man?
	No.
	So this, but hear me out.
	The perfect man, I think sometimes people misunderstand what I mean.
	So perfect.
	So whatever you think perfect would be.
	So perfect to looks, perfect personality, perfect loyalty, he would never leave you.
	Perfect money.
	So I guess you would maximize this and say he's a billionaire.
	So he makes so much money, or he has so much money, you'd never have to work again.
	Perfect, perfect at best in bed, everything that could be perfect, treats you the best, perfect family, perfect.
	He'd be the perfect father, all these things.
	Perfect man.
	Do you give it up?
	Do you give up your dream for the perfect man?
	No.
	I'd rather be single.
	You'd rather be single?
	Well, I am.
	Hey, look, people have their pursuits, and it is what it is.
	I think, though, I don't think that there's a lot of, well, I don't think there is anyone who's perfect.
	You're going to make a lot of compromises when it comes to who you ultimately end up with.
	You might end up with the love of your life, and you might think they're beautiful and very attractive.
	But I think ultimately, there are some things that, you know, perhaps might not be maximal in all aspects in terms of who you end up with.
	Like me, for example, even though there's a sort of, for men, men are like, I would give up my career for the perfect woman.
	Now you might say, well, Brian, you're not steadfast enough.
	Don't have you don't have the mission in you.
	I think I do, but I acknowledge simultaneously that the perfect woman is so rare.
	Well, not it's not that she's rare, she doesn't exist.
	So for the perfect woman, how about this?
	Let me ask a question.
	Going around the table, if you could get, I know some of you are in relationships, but hypothetically, if you could get a man who's 80% of all the things that you want, but he's missing like the 20% or whatever.
	I don't know if I'd frame it as settling, but would you accept that?
	That's already what I'm doing.
	Good to know.
	Would you accept that?
	He's 80% of all the things that you want.
	Well, yeah, probably.
	Yes, you would take him.
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	No.
	No?
	I don't think so.
	Wouldn't take him?
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Yes, but also I'm curious what the 20% depends on the 20%.
	Yeah, that is fair to say.
	That's fair to say.
	Hmm.
	I'm not actually sure I would frame it, but what about you?
	I think it depends as well.
	If it's like if the 20% is just like looks-based, like height, weight, eye color, genetics, whatever, then sure.
	But if it's like deal breakers for me, like personality too.
	Well, I feel like personality matters to an extent, yeah, but not deal breaker.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	No, because it's not my husband.
	Oh, I mean, she's committed.
	I think, so I think they've done this as a study, actually, where they, you know, they polled men and women on this question.
	And men jumped at it.
	Oh, of course.
	80%, that'd be fantastic.
	Whereas a higher proportion of women are like, no, if I can't get 100%, I don't want anything.
	I was actually surprised.
	I was surprised for this time.
	Most of you guys said that.
	I'm not looking for 100%.
	I'm looking for whatever amount he can give and the rest, what he can't give.
	Can we find a way to find common ground?
	Can I look past those things?
	Because not everyone, there's no one, not everyone's perfect.
	Everyone has their flaws, issues, whatever.
	So I'm not saying I'm 100% either.
	There are things that I do and think and say that make me not even close to 80%.
	$10 million though, a year?
	You won't settle for less?
	Well, around that amount.
	This has to be exact.
	Okay.
	$9 million, $8 million, $7 million.
	Even if you said $1 million, that's a lot of money.
	But so you're saying, let's say, hypothetically, of course, we all know you're going to be extremely successful, but let's say for whatever reason, it doesn't happen and you are a like many actresses and whatever.
	Well, you're not trying to be an actress, I guess.
	You end up as a waitress or, you know, whatever it is.
	You work, you're a barista.
	If you were, let's say you were making, I don't know, it could be some other job, $70,000 a year.
	Would you be fine dating a guy who makes $70,000 a year?
	I'd probably stay single until I achieve my dreams.
	I have a question for you.
	Do you think, as you are 18 years old, that your aspirations and dreams, they might be a little naive?
	I mean, I already mentioned that I think that my self-esteem is a little too high and I think it'll change your opinions as you grow or do you think this is gonna be like your your mindset forever?
	Well, I think it's gonna lower a little bit as I grow because life experience is gonna hit me someday and maybe eventually you'll you'll want that 70k man.
	Not 70k though.
	Not 70k.
	I would rather like if I have to work on myself or stay single till I actually consider myself worthy of being able to hold up something.
	What's the definition of worthy?
	I mean if if I can't support myself I mean 70k supports me but not to the point where I'm glad with how it supports me.
	So I guess that just goes back to like what you were saying about those high expectations and the high self-esteem thing you were saying.
	It's okay.
	She's 18 dude.
	Well that's why that's why I'm asking like you know to reflect I think maybe this is like a naive thought that you could grow to adjust as you go on.
	What are you like triggering at like what are you pushing at towards me for I'm not trying to trigger you I'm just trying just just saying something that you might think about you're telling me to consider to neglect that.
	No I'm saying is I'm trying to get you to reflect if this is what you're thinking now is it really what you think you're gonna think forever.
	When I was 18 I thought that if I couldn't figure out what I wanted to do in college I was gonna chop my hair off and move to France okay like we all have different ideas and expectations you know what I mean critical so let her figure shit out so why did she not chop your hair off I think look, we can let her dream.
	However, I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to pursue a passion or pursue your dream or pursue your career.
	I think my primary objection is the number.
	Well, look.
	Also, my confusion here is, if you're making $10 million, would it really matter all that much?
	Like you're making so much money, $10 million a year, you could date a guy who's technically broke and be totally fine financially.
	Then I'm a sugar mommy.
	I'm not a sugar mommy, but you realize, like okay.
	So when you say you want to date a guy who makes $10 million a year, a year, that's such a small proportion of men, a really small amount of men.
	It's point, zero zero zero, one percent or something.
	Very few men make this much money.
	Um, I don't even how many, how many.
	I I'm not even interested in a percentage.
	How many men here?
	Let me just ask chat GPT, let's just do this how many men in the United, in the US, earn 10 million a year?
	I hope they don't give me a percentage, let's see one sec, okay.
	So according to IRS statistics of income, 2080 individual tax returns reported adjusTedros income of 10 million or more, 2,000 men, and most of those men are probably probably old, probably already in a relationship, most likely married, kids old, so you probably want a guy, I don't know.
	Let's say you make by the time you're 30, you're making that much.
	The amount of men, like, that you would.
	I don't know, like, do you date older men?
	Um, like, how old or how much older?
	No, no, like 50.
	No, I would not.
	So, okay, if you say you're 30, would you date a guy?
	Maybe you date a guy between 30 and 40?
	If I'm 30, maybe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's just so few men that make that much money, so it's a bit unrealistic.
	But then, like, let's say you don't make that much money.
	The question is, what's like what do you reduce your threshold of the man's yearly income to be?
	Like, a hundred thousand, or is that too low?
	Still a million.
	So, let's say you're below the number.
	Let's say you're broke.
	Minimum yearly income to date you if I'm broke, minimal income for him.
	How much does he have to make if I'm broke?
	If you're broke, if I'm broke, then I'm probably single too.
	Well, I mean, you can be broken as a woman and still date, but um, just for the hypothetical if I would be broke, I'm just trying to think.
	Okay, let's say you have you are a barista and you have a studio apartment, so you're not broke, but you're kind of broke.
	What's the minimum yearly income for a man to be your future husband in those circumstances?
	Well, that's a kind of like a wide range because I don't know where I'm gonna be in you're a barista.
	$20 an hour.
	How long am I gonna be doing that?
	I mean, you gave it a shot, but I'm a future husband.
	How am I gonna know what I'm gonna be earning in the future?
	If you're a barista at 30, you gotta pack it up.
	Oh, I'm 30.
	I'm 30.
	Okay, let me lock in.
	I'm already 30.
	I'm a barista, and I have an apartment, a studio apartment.
	Yeah.
	Well, he would probably no, I'd probably be single then.
	I don't deserve to have a relationship.
	Wait, what?
	If I don't make it, I don't deserve to.
	Wait, women don't need to make money to deserve a relationship.
	I consider that my opinion.
	Okay, but I don't think anyone's supposed to financially women have done it through all of human history.
	Let me ask.
	Your parents, are they still together?
	No.
	They're separated?
	Yeah.
	Your mom poisoned your father and murdered him.
	Who murders someone?
	Are your parents both of them alive?
	Yeah.
	Okay, but they're separated.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh man, that would have been bad.
	Okay, they're separated.
	Okay.
	Well, they were married.
	Okay, when they were married, what was the dynamic?
	I mean, dynamic.
	Was he paying for was he like the breadwinner?
	I guess.
	And she stayed at home and took care of the kids?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's been a way people are.
	It's been a dynamic for most of human history.
	It's not when people make it obvious for like pointing it out.
	Like, oh, I'm paying for everything.
	You wouldn't want, you wouldn't want that dynamic?
	Yeah, no, because it's just shameful.
	Like, you said men should pay on first dates and men should be chivalrous.
	That's just kindness.
	That's just a person being a person.
	Okay, well.
	Look, men don't care about your money, really.
	It should not, it would not prevent you from dating somebody if your money wasn't right.
	I mean, clearly, you're 18, right?
	I'm assuming you're not making, like, a bunch of money at 18.
	But a bunch of men probably want to date you.
	You're an attractive girl.
	You live in Los Angeles.
	I'd prefer staying single.
	You have, like, three boyfriends.
	Sorry.
	And, like, 10, 8 dudes on your roster.
	Who said they're boyfriends if they're three guys with you for six months, a year, three years?
	I don't even know.
	I feel like you're being kind of holding something back about this.
	I don't know.
	It's kind of confusing.
	Are any of them married or in relationships?
	No.
	Do you like cuddle with them?
	no so i'm just i don't know if we fully grasp what exactly is the nature of these Because, like, when I asked you, like, if there's guys in the picture, but that question would imply, like, it's not just friends.
	I mean, it's from my standpoint.
	I envision people who have feelings for me.
	Like, they are in the picture and they're talking to me and they have feelings for me.
	And you have feelings back, I would hope.
	No.
	Why do you kiss them?
	Oh, she kisses them?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I just feel bad.
	You mercy kiss?
	Like, I wouldn't go any further.
	I said, exactly.
	A pity fuck.
	No.
	A pity fuck.
	No, no, no.
	I would not do that.
	Exactly.
	I mean, the three-year guy, you should at least give him a couple pity fucks.
	That's a long time.
	It was asking.
	Or a cuddle.
	But I was like, no.
	You pity kiss?
	I only kiss.
	I said, I don't go any further than that.
	Handholding?
	If they ask for a hug, I'm like.
	Just seems like you're wasting your time.
	Do they know that you hate them?
	Like, literally.
	They're probably in love with her.
	Yeah.
	Have they love you?
	Have they said, I love you?
	Yeah.
	Or have you said I love you back?
	No, I can't say I can lie.
	How are you benefiting from this in any way?
	Ooh, good question.
	Or them.
	Yeah, what are you getting out of this?
	Yeah, she said she gets a place to stay when she's in New York.
	Oh, my God.
	That's not worth having, like, a year-long.
	All they do is kiss.
	No, I. Do you talk about that?
	A hotel cost money.
	Exactly.
	This only costs a kiss.
	Oh, yeah, but it's like that seems like a lot of work to save that amount of money.
	Like, if you're going to be a gold durger, you might as well fucking go all the way.
	Like, I mean, shit.
	Have him rent you an apartment in New York.
	What are you talking about?
	That's not worth it.
	I need one in Los Angeles.
	But okay, aren't there guys who live in LA that you're seeing?
	Yeah.
	Like one of them, you've been six months a year?
	Yeah.
	Six months.
	What are you getting?
	Actually, I don't know.
	He's very weird.
	The one who's in L.A., he's actually very weird.
	He's a YouTuber?
	No, no, no, he's not.
	He's also a music artist, but he's told me very weird things.
	Like, one day, okay, we're just talking, like, friends.
	We were in a friend come, like, a little friend group.
	And then he just, one day, he texts me, like, at 3 a.m. I was literally sleeping.
	I saw this at 6 a.m. when I woke up.
	There's like seven texts.
	All the texts were like this long.
	And they say, hey, I have like these feelings for you.
	And these feelings are very strange.
	And let me describe them.
	And they were like, and all of that, all of that, all of that.
	And it's summed up as like, I still don't know what I'm feeling for you.
	And I think I just, I'm like attracted to you.
	And you, my soulmate.
	And you're like, I have to love you for life.
	And I love you so much.
	And I was like, I don't know, like, what do I have to do with a person who has so many, like, he's literally telling me, I love you so much.
	I have, like, you're my soulmate for life.
	I don't know.
	I feel connected to you.
	Or you got to let this guy down.
	I mean, you got to let him down.
	If you're not feeling it, and he's, you're just stringing him along.
	I think you got to let him down.
	I don't know if I might in the future.
	Oh.
	I just, I mean, even if you approach it from a selfish perspective, I mean, it takes a lot, not a lot, but like, like he's texting you and you're reading the text.
	It seems like a waste of time for you.
	And it's a waste of time for him.
	You're not into it.
	Look, let me ask you point blank.
	Are you into the guy?
	I that's the deal.
	He doesn't know.
	Oh my gosh.
	All right.
	Maybe to figure that out.
	She's 18.
	She'll figure that out.
	Oh, man.
	That was a good idea.
	But while she's figuring it out, she's still stringing the guys off.
	I'm in love with a girl and she's like, I don't know how I feel about you.
	That makes you even more in love.
	If it's toxic, I guess.
	I don't know.
	Well, he must be.
	You know, dating is not like, doesn't have to be this complicated thing.
	I understand it can be complicated.
	But it's like, I like you, you like me.
	Let's be together.
	Why can't it?
	That's simple.
	Anyways, I can fix her.
	You got to lose all the dudes and you got to be wearing a baboo.
	What is it the babushkas wear?
	What do they wear?
	What are the head covers that the Russian women wear?
	Headscarf?
	I'll have you in the kitchen in a headscarf making Russian dumplings.
	Seven sons.
	You can sing in the bat in the shower.
	How about that?
	I did that 10 years ago.
	What?
	No, sing in the shower.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Court.
	You stabbed yourself after getting cheated on.
	Yes, I did.
	After you got cheated on?
	With your parents.
	Husband?
	No.
	So this was a different person that cheated on me, actually.
	Yeah.
	You've been cheated on a lot.
	every relationship except for like do you have a type um I did.
	It makes a lot of sense why I got cheated on a lot.
	My type was broken and needing to be fixed.
	Are you also broken and needing to be fixed?
	I was.
	Because there you go.
	Okay, tell us about the stabbing.
	So.
	And reenact it with this pen.
	Okay.
	Wait.
	Wait, actually don't do that.
	No.
	Here, reenact it with a fake knife.
	Okay.
	Where did you stab yourself?
	Was it like, wait, what?
	In the stomach twice.
	You did like a Harikari.
	Oh, are you a Seppuku or Harikari?
	There's two stabbing people that you can still see.
	But yeah, I stabbed myself too much.
	Are you able to zip down just a teeny bit?
	So I think.
	Okay, we see it.
	It's just those two.
	It's not lower.
	I can see it at all.
	No, no, no.
	It's just those two.
	Wow, that girl would have yaked if she saw that.
	So, like, how here, with your hands.
	Sometimes I know women can misjudge like the size of objects, but what are we measuring?
	Like penises or whatever.
	A knife.
	The knife.
	How big was the knife?
	It was a pretty big knife.
	It was a pairing knife, so it was like that, but it was super.
	Pairing.
	Pairing knife.
	Pairing knife, like in a kitchen, like the one you cut.
	Pair?
	Like tomatoes.
	The ones that will take the skin off?
	What is that?
	That's a peeling knife.
	A peeling knife.
	No, not.
	Pairing knife is like.
	It's okay.
	Is it serrated?
	Can we?
	No, is it serrated?
	No, no, no.
	Okay, whatever.
	You know, my parents kept a knife.
	The edge is like a long.
	It's the actual blade, and then it's like this thick.
	Pairing.
	I don't think it's a smaller one.
	They're small.
	They're small knives.
	It's not pears like that.
	It's smaller than a butter knife.
	I don't eat pears, so.
	Oh, I see it.
	Okay, so it's maybe a couple inches.
	Yeah.
	Like your ex.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's okay.
	Look.
	And you stabbed yourself.
	Full force.
	Once or twice.
	It was twice.
	It was the same sitting.
	Setting.
	Yes.
	Once.
	Pull out.
	Second time.
	Yeah.
	In front of him.
	No.
	What are you supposed to do?
	No, no, no.
	He was far away.
	Aren't you supposed to like go side?
	Yeah, you're supposed to like yourself.
	I was very drunk.
	I had a relapse.
	Have you ever stabbed a man?
	No, I would never stab anybody.
	Did you consider?
	Did you ever consider?
	Oh man, that's crazy.
	I'd be scared.
	I'd be a little scared to date a woman who did that, but did you ever consider cutting his dick off?
	No, I would never self-home.
	Okay.
	Yeah, not now.
	Is that the only time you stabbed yourself?
	Yeah, that's the only time I've ever done it.
	And you were drunk?
	Yeah.
	And high?
	Or just drunk?
	Not high.
	Just drunk.
	Off of what?
	Jose Cuervo tequila.
	You stabbed yourself while drunk off Jose Cuervo.
	Yeah.
	Sponsor me.
	And then did you go to the hospital?
	Oh, yeah.
	An ambulance came.
	So did you perforate your stomach lining?
	There is tissue damage, but I didn't get to my actual organs because I weighed quite a bit more than I do now.
	You were obese.
	Yeah.
	Were you?
	Yeah.
	I was like 200 pounds.
	Whoa.
	Yeah.
	Transformation.
	In there.
	Thank you.
	Less than a year.
	I lived quite the life.
	Yeah, I went to jail after I stabbed myself too.
	Because I beat somebody up in the same night.
	After you stabbed yourself?
	No, before.
	Are you sure it was just tequila?
	Yeah.
	Tequila will.
	I drank the whole bottle, though.
	Was this supposed to be a bad thing?
	You beat up a man or a woman?
	Both.
	So there were three battery charges.
	You beat up a couple?
	Yes.
	And then also a girl separately.
	So three people?
	Yes.
	You beat up three people, and then after you beat them up.
	Yeah.
	Did you use a weapon when you beat them up or was it just your hands?
	Just my hands.
	I beat them up pretty bad.
	Two of them turned into felony charges.
	Everything's dropped now.
	I'm a free, innocent girl.
	Wait, they dropped it?
	How would you get dropped for the felonies got dropped down to misses?
	Oh, but you got charged, but okay, I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, I'm not a felon.
	Well, I only got charged with one battery.
	So I'm a free girl.
	But I did spend two months in jail.
	The fighting happened first, and then my neighbor said the police were coming.
	And so I was like, okay, I'm going to get arrested.
	I'm just going to end it all.
	And the whole reason I was fighting in the first place and like fighting those girls was because of the cheating.
	Wow.
	So, oh, wait, did those girls the cheating people?
	One of them.
	Yeah, one of them.
	We're actually friends now.
	And then you beat up the guy who was your boyfriend.
	No, I beat up a totally no.
	Like a random chicken.
	And a random chick?
	Yeah.
	Like neighbors.
	Were they like trying to intervene or something?
	No, the man just always would be weird towards me and like try to do stuff.
	So I started yelling at the lady like, Your husband wants to fuck me.
	He's always trying to get with me.
	He's knocking on my door.
	Like I started yelling.
	And then, yeah.
	Was this before or after your first kid?
	This was after.
	I didn't change my life around until the beginning of this year.
	No.
	No, no.
	All my kids were born already when this happened.
	This happened at the beginning of this year.
	Wait, so hold on.
	It was a different guy that made you do the stabbing that you were dating.
	So your current boyfriend.
	Yes.
	You already with your current boyfriend.
	Those are his three kids.
	Yes.
	So this was when you were broken up with him.
	Yeah, after I left him.
	This was after the cheating and the duh.
	And then you were dating a different guy.
	You already had three kids.
	And then that other guy cheated on you.
	Yeah.
	And then you drunk, drank, drunk, drank some Jose Cuevro, some tequila.
	Yeah.
	Got all fucked up, stabbed yourself.
	Well, first, you beat up three people.
	Was it, were they all together or were these like separate?
	Completely like.
	All three or two of them?
	The one girl was by herself and a couple.
	The cheating girl.
	Well, cheating couple.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So you beat her up, then a little bit later, you beat up the neighbors.
	I was just kind of like running around.
	I was out in my car.
	Yeah, I was out in my car.
	I saw the camera.
	Is this recording or anything?
	I'm sure there's some body cam ring, whatever.
	Were you already drunk when you were beating him up?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I wouldn't fight not drunk.
	I just turn into a demon when I'm drunk, which is why I'm sober now.
	Wow.
	That's insane.
	Thank you for sharing that, though.
	That's crazy.
	I know.
	That is.
	Have you ever slashed a guy's tires?
	No, not the tires.
	What have you slashed?
	What did you slash?
	Like the inside where the radio is, because he could just replace his tires.
	It's harder to replace a radio.
	Oh, you thought that through.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Have you ever burned a guy's clothes?
	Yes.
	My dad's.
	Your dad's.
	Yeah.
	He cheated on my mommy.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	The loyalty.
	Oh, boy.
	That was when I was like a teenager, though.
	Yep.
	Did you have a chaotic upbringing?
	Yeah.
	We were on a reality show called Nanny 911 because we were really bad kids.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	The King family.
	Go watch it.
	Anyway.
	When was this?
	What year?
	Oh, Jesus, 2004.
	I was four, but I was.
	Okay.
	You should hear me curse.
	I was not.
	It was horrible.
	I was a bad kid.
	Oh, boy.
	But yeah.
	Rough talking.
	The king family.
	All right.
	We're going to find that.
	That's crazy.
	Holy shit.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	And then you said you've cheated.
	You left your husband.
	Wait, so your current boyfriend, you were married to him?
	No, I put husband because that's just what I call him.
	It's not really.
	Okay, that's right.
	I remember that.
	Okay, but you left him.
	You got with another guy.
	That other guy cheated on you.
	You're now back with your husband.
	You've cheated since you got back with him.
	Is that correct?
	No.
	Not since I got back with him.
	Just like the times since leaving him.
	Oh, sorry.
	The times since leaving him, like the two relationships I had been in, I cheated on them so brutally.
	Like horrible.
	Have you ever gotten STD?
	No.
	Oh, my cheating is never sex, by the way.
	What is your cheating?
	Like kissing or just like some dumb shit.
	Like something that's not really, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, still cheating, but yeah, but not like I wouldn't want to ruin my life like that.
	Okay.
	Body for no reason.
	But your, but your boyfriend, fiancé/slash husband, he's cheated like all the way through.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's fucked other people, but I wouldn't want to do that because.
	Yeah, you write.
	Modern dating is literally fucked.
	It seems like everyone is cheating or micro-cheating.
	You write, it seems like becoming a cheater is way more probable.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Alyssa, six months single.
	Elisa?
	Yeah.
	You got it.
	Thank you.
	Be pissed off at your parents or something.
	Isn't it pronounced?
	It's pronounced Elisa.
	Russian.
	Because it's Russian.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'll try to get it proper.
	Six months single, post-one-year relationship with a guy you thought you were going to marry.
	That didn't work out.
	Sacrificing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we can skip that.
	Later.
	Well, I have for you, actually.
	Given, like, you know, you make the decisions a lot with your relationships.
	If I was willing to move to a whole nother state where like I did not really, I would have to essentially start my life over for him.
	I was willing to do that.
	Your life should be your boyfriend's life.
	Right.
	Right.
	Okay, thank you.
	You're welcome.
	But asking to move to a town over that's 15 minutes away from where he lives.
	Is that asking for too much?
	To be in an apartment that suits both of our needs.
	But you were asking him, or he was asking you?
	I was asking, considering that I was willing to move several states over, if he would be willing to move to a town that's like 15 minutes away from him so that we could be in an apartment that was that catered to both of our needs.
	Not necessarily cheaper, but had things that both of us needed, you know.
	So he you wanted to move?
	I was willing to move for him to a whole other state, to Massachusetts, where he lives.
	I wasn't asking.
	So wait, what's the question?
	I'm willing to move to another state, to Massachusetts, where he lives, but he doesn't want to, he didn't want to move to another town in Massachusetts, 15, like 15 minutes from where he currently lives in Massachusetts.
	Was that asking for too much?
	Well, what was his reasoning to decline?
	He didn't want to be far from the beach because he likes to step outside of his apartment to surf.
	Valid.
	100% valid.
	W boyfriend.
	Thank you.
	Sorry.
	No, you're fine.
	I'm a boys' boy.
	I can see that.
	Boy's boy.
	Gotta have the boys back.
	This whole thing has been a boys-boys conversation.
	No, I'm one of the girls.
	Sure.
	I'm a girl's girl.
	Yeah.
	It's a safe space.
	Okay.
	A few things from you.
	We're pretty close here.
	dating in the music industry have you dated a i mean kind of what i mentioned before but because i think ava brought up something earlier i kind of remember something else i didn't even mention in the chat so So actually, hold on.
	Let me think about this.
	One of my exes was Chinese.
	that was okay that was in the u.s but he was chinese uh his family was oh me so horny Me love you long time!
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	So he was Chinese.
	His family was Chinese.
	He has a huge family.
	And he was, it was just such a weird date.
	I feel, okay, we had like, in total, we had like three dates.
	Yeah.
	But I think every time it just got even weirder.
	Because the first date, okay, he took me to like some restaurant.
	It wasn't like just like some Italian place.
	And I was like, okay, you know, like, what's the deal?
	I didn't really like him.
	I just went because I felt bad for him again.
	And we just spoke.
	And he was a little older.
	And I lied about my age.
	And then.
	Wait, you were underage?
	Well, yeah.
	What did you?
	Okay, what was your age?
	And what did you say your age was?
	I was 16.
	I think I was 16.
	How old was he?
	He was like 20, I think.
	But I like when we were sitting there, I thought it would be a red flag for me to say, hey, I'm just like 16.
	So I said, I was like, I was 19.
	And he believed that.
	I mean, I'm just kind of mature, so it was believable.
	I had a job, you know, like it would make sense that I was 19.
	Was it rice gum?
	Rice?
	Rice gum?
	No, he's older than that.
	He said he was an Asian guy, so Chinese.
	So that was the first, like, I lied about my age, then he dropped me off home, and I just felt very bad, and I felt very weird, but I was like, okay, I don't know where this is going yet.
	Then we have the second date, and he decides to invite me to his house.
	And he mentions while we're driving there, he's mentioning that he has a huge house, he has nine brothers, and that he has seven snakes at home, like pet snakes, and eight cats.
	Okay.
	And I'm like, what?
	Because that was like, I don't think you would do that on a second date.
	Like, hey, let's go to my house.
	I have seven snakes and nine cats.
	But I went and I was like, okay, whatever, let's go.
	I came to his house and he was like, all right, sit down.
	And I sat on the sofa and he started cooking for me.
	He would clean for me.
	He would like, he started making like a full-blown meal.
	He made like, I don't know, I don't know whatever.
	I just felt so awkward.
	I don't know who cooks for a person, especially I know you just said about women being traditional, women cleaning, women cooking.
	But then here it's like the full opposite when a guy invites me to his place, seats me down and starts cooking for me, cleaning for me.
	And I just, I just felt so, I kind of felt out of place.
	I just didn't know what to do.
	It was very awkward.
	And all these snakes being there, I'm like, I don't like snakes at all.
	And I was, it just felt, and the place was a mansion because he had nine brothers, but for some reason, no one was home.
	It was just him.
	And I was like, it was a nice place.
	It was a very weird place.
	Wait, he's a musician?
	No, he's not a musician.
	Imagine, like, you know, a person from a second date.
	You're sitting on his sofa in a two-story mansion with eight snakes and nine cats.
	And you're like.
	I mean, it maybe is a little peculiar, the amount of animals, but I don't know if it's, I mean, the only thing that, okay, and then after he made my meal, we ate the meal, we were sitting talking, and then he just like takes me straight to his bedroom.
	I'm like, seriously, like, already?
	It was only the second date.
	And I was like, I kind of like, I don't usually do that.
	Yeah, I mean, like.
	Have you ever done that?
	Only with someone I feel very attracted to, like personality-wise.
	Like, oh, they're hot as hell.
	But I didn't see that.
	I mean, I don't.
	I don't have a, like, a primary thing for Chinese guys.
	I don't know.
	At this point, I'm looking back at it, and I don't know why I kept like being led on.
	I was like, okay, let's, like, let's go.
	Like, okay, okay.
	But, like, right now, I would just say, okay, I'm not interested.
	But he starts like it's he starts doing his thing, and then we're like already doing it.
	And I realized that.
	Sorry, go, go ahead, continue.
	Go ahead.
	You realized or?
	I realized that it's just very, he's just very, very like throwing me off.
	I don't know what it was.
	Either like him cooking for me, either him providing everything, either him being like too pleasing.
	Like he was trying to impress me, but it wasn't working.
	And I just, I think he wasn't using the correct tactics.
	The meta.
	The most effective.
	Most effective tactics available.
	His meta was all fucked up.
	Wait, but so you did sleep with him?
	I.
	It's like we like started and like in the middle, it like mid all this stuff.
	He like starts whispering to me.
	He's like, no.
	What is he saying?
	Is it in Chinese or whatever?
	No, I mean, he did have like, I just can't like look at his eyes.
	They're like so squinty.
	No.
	No.
	No, I get it.
	He, like, pissed off at me.
	Oh, me so horny.
	We love you long time.
	He pissed off at me.
	He's like, you're so sexy.
	And I was like, and then that's my breaking point.
	Wait, you don't like when people talk during no, it just was his accent or something.
	I don't know.
	You're so sexy.
	Wait, do it again, do it again.
	You're so sexy?
	What the fuck was that?
	Was that India?
	Roll of the time.
	Absolutely not.
	Anybody Vietnamese?
	I feel like a nail impression.
	Who can do an Indian one?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, do it, do it, do it.
	You want a jail nail?
	You want the five dollars for the design on your ring finger?
	It was okay.
	It was okay.
	It's time to do it.
	Wait, it's okay.
	Hold on.
	But did you continue seeing the guy, the Chinese guy?
	Okay, no.
	so it was a one-time thing honestly after that after that we didn't meet but it was less you know like i was trying to stay away from you I don't know why.
	I just felt like turned off.
	Because of the day.
	He was HGP.
	God.
	But you had.
	I don't know how he did it.
	He just wasn't.
	What is it?
	Well, you.
	You got turned on like after the sex, during the sex?
	No, I got turned off.
	I was like, I could not.
	But then you had sex with him anyways?
	No, the third time we met?
	I think, yeah, I didn't mention it.
	How many times did you guys hook up?
	Well, we had sex or just.
	What?
	You said the third time you met up with him?
	Just met.
	Didn't like do anything.
	Because you said the second date, he took you to the bedroom, showed you the snakes and the cats, and his mansion was empty.
	But so it was the second date you guys had sex.
	And then the third date, you had sex again?
	No, the third date, we went like hiking or whatever at like 12 a.m. At midnight?
	Yeah, I have no idea.
	Is he on like methods?
	He's on China.
	This guy's gonna fucking murder you.
	What the fuck?
	I have a question.
	So you said something about not wanting to like string that guy along, this guy.
	So what's so different about not wanting to string him along, but you can string these three guys along?
	What?
	The three guys she's currently talking to.
	She's like stringing them along, but she just said she didn't want to string this guy along.
	I mean, I did for how long I could.
	She did string him along for three times.
	So wait, I still have it.
	But then it was over.
	Three times over.
	I just felt bad because, okay, yeah, and it was.
	I had sex.
	I mean, it still hit.
	Still hit.
	Once hiking, I got home.
	I was like, okay, I'm home.
	But then I never responded to him again, but he kept calling me or he kept texting me.
	He's like, hey, if I did something wrong, just like, you know, like, we could talk about it.
	I kind of did.
	I was very avoidant when I was younger.
	I'm trying to work on it and be less avoidant to people.
	Just try not to ghost people, but it's difficult.
	You have, for an 18-year-old, you have a lot of lore.
	You do.
	Do you know what lore is?
	L-O-R-E, lore.
	I have a lot of lore.
	You know what lore is.
	Oh, I have.
	You're a man.
	That's a woman term.
	Like, I think who, like, Tara Yummy starts.
	Don't get me started about World of Warcraft lore.
	Okay.
	I don't want to hear any more.
	Please.
	I'm already so confused.
	Yeah, I'm not going to get into it.
	I'm not going to get into it.
	I'm not actually much.
	Flower song and ranger arts or whatever.
	The Magnum Core.
	The Magnums.
	Okay, so I feel like this is maybe like the third.
	You've got like seven other crazy stories, too.
	Probably.
	Oh, probably like seven.
	70s.
	70s.
	Oh, seven.
	Sorry, I thought you said D meant six.
	70s, 70s.
	70 stories.
	70 stories.
	What is, you know.
	I had like four car accents.
	You're 18.
	Four car accents.
	I feel like you're 18.
	You know what?
	How.
	I don't know.
	LA.
	LA is another beast.
	Los Angeles is another beast.
	But weren't you in Arizona?
	I was in Arizona.
	That wasn't Arizona.
	This was in Arizona.
	The hiking.
	Yeah, I just.
	Did you get a thick Chinese accent?
	Imagine the snakes, the heat, the hiking, and that would like it being 90 degrees Fahrenheit.
	Actually, that'd be quite pleasant.
	All this sounds lovely.
	I personally love snakes.
	I love snakes too.
	I mean, I never took shoes, but it sounds like a trip.
	You have an interesting story.
	Okay, but you said fake dating.
	What does that mean really quickly?
	Fake dating?
	Yeah, fake dating in your notes.
	Oh, yeah, no.
	I just feel like a lot of people.
	So that was more about LA, more about after moving here.
	I realized that some people date each other for opportunities.
	And I didn't like do that.
	I'm very against that.
	Okay.
	But I just see it happening and I'm like, ooh, you like, I see one person that is very much into their partner, but their partner just there for the whatever.
	So like you?
	No, I'm just being sorry for people.
	I'm not.
	That's not.
	They're not giving me opportunities, right?
	Opportunities?
	I mean, people in the industry, let's say they date for having an opportunity, like, oh, I'm with this guy.
	He's successful.
	See, that's something that resonates.
	Because that's fake dating.
	That's what I call fake dating.
	PR.
	I need to go.
	Are there any?
	We're almost done.
	Okay.
	Hang tight.
	I swear we're at the tail end here.
	Almost done.
	I got you, boo.
	Like five to ten.
	My luggage is sitting on somebody's front porch right now.
	What?
	What?
	Wait, what?
	Oh, wait, yeah, sorry.
	Yeah, we're good.
	Don't worry.
	We're this her notes are the last.
	There's like two or three other things.
	We're at the tail end here.
	I got you.
	Okay.
	Really quick, really quick.
	Look, honestly, the reason.
	It's not my fault this show goes so long.
	I just think sometimes you guys speak on 0.5 speed.
	So you wanted to talk about dating norms between Russia and USA.
	Give me the quick thing there.
	Hold on, I'm going to think fast.
	I'm going to think fast.
	I just think she said something about people in America not knowing what they want, but I think it's the other way around.
	Like people, sometimes I would see people in Russia that are completely lost.
	They're like, oh, you know, I don't know what I'm feeling right now.
	I don't know what I want to do, like, with my feelings.
	But rather than in the US, a guy kind of knows where he's going with a relationship or where he wants to take it.
	Wait, so you're saying in the United States, men are more, have more of a direction, but in Russia, no?
	Yeah.
	I would say that's true.
	Even though she said the complete opposite.
	I don't know.
	Maybe you can.
	I would disagree with you, like based on my own Russian husband who was very like he just knew what he wanted.
	Well, you guys are maybe older.
	All right, a few more things here.
	Okay, we have to do the...
	Mary, let's just do the...
	By the way, there were different gender swaps.
	Did you see that?
	Like, there were two different batches.
	You didn't catch it?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Can you get those going while I get those going?
	We'll just do that as a fun segment.
	I don't know, but that doesn't really matter if you can just get the other batch of them pulled up.
	Well, there's age and then gender swap.
	You have one batch of those, correct?
	Correct.
	Okay, get the other batch.
	It's in the same tab.
	You'll see it, I'm sure.
	Okay, all done with notes.
	We could do...
	I...
	It's always tough when not everybody's at the table.
	We could also do bumble segment, but I think you probably have to get everything like pulled up and stuff.
	Right?
	Here, really quick, why don't we just do the bumble segment?
	We're only going to do two girls here.
	We're going to do the 10 and the 10.
	We'll just do that now.
	Okay, so wait, hold on.
	What is the age?
	What is the age range of men you would date?
	Hmm.
	I would say 20.
	All right.
	Do you know how to change it, Mary?
	Okay.
	18 to 26.
	18 to 26.
	Or honestly, hold on.
	Well, it depends.
	Okay.
	Sure, that's a fine.
	That's a fine range.
	Let's do that.
	Okay, go ahead.
	All right.
	So we need quick answers.
	You get to see, you see one photo.
	Hey, Mary, put us on GH5 Center Zoom.
	You gotta hide the other one.
	Alright, uh, just yes or no?
	No.
	Quick, quick, quick hook.
	Maybe, yeah.
	I had to see if it.
	No.
	Or yes.
	Oh my gosh.
	Too late.
	Which one is he?
	Either.
	Let's say the left.
	That's probably the better looking one.
	Probably, yeah.
	I mean, I don't know how long I'm gonna be dating him for.
	Don't worry, just yes or no.
	Yes or no, please.
	No.
	He looks.
	Just yes or no.
	Yes or no?
	No other commentary.
	No, no, no, yes.
	No.
	No, I don't know.
	Who is he?
	No.
	Hey, that was the guy you already had sex with.
	Man, they're just showing you Asian guys now.
	It's crazy.
	I guess he.
	No, wait, he's Mexico.
	Yes.
	Oh, my God.
	We know her type.
	Fuck boy.
	Am I?
	Is David Decat?
	No.
	Is Dave the guy?
	No.
	Uh, yes.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	He was a kid.
	No.
	Oh, dang, that was fast.
	No.
	No, I don't like his name.
	Oh, no.
	Yes.
	He's a cowboy or something.
	Okay, yes.
	No.
	No.
	All right, we'll leave it there.
	Okay.
	Actually, they were pretty generous with some of the men that they showed you there.
	Alright, so age range of men you would date?
	28 to 40.
	Pretty good range.
	All right, we'll give you 20 swipes.
	It's David Deca.
	Okay.
	Just yes or no?
	No.
	Uh, yes.
	No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
	If he's the guy on the left, yes.
	No?
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	Oh, my God.
	These are pretty.
	Just good pictures.
	No.
	Really?
	No.
	Alright.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Alright, we'll leave it there.
	Alright.
	Not too bad.
	Not too bad.
	Like on the hot to cute scale, you actually prefer cute over hot.
	You understand the hot to cute scale?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so that's done here.
	We'll do.
	Can you start working on the other batch?
	Okay.
	We are going to do a rapid fire segment here.
	Rapid fires.
	Okay, so if you guys can, just for the sake of time, give me quick answers.
	Don't try to linger too long as we're going around the table.
	If we are going around the table, just try to, you know, give me the answers.
	All right.
	Without naming, whatever, it doesn't matter.
	Name three countries besides the USA.
	You can't repeat anybody.
	Israel, Mexico, Spain, Russia, Ukraine, Africa.
	Wait.
	Africa?
	That's not a country.
	Oh, huh?
	Egypt.
	Okay.
	Germany, France, Uganda.
	Wait, we don't need that.
	Just answer the question, please.
	Dude, what this...
	Okay.
	Was Canada said, mentioned?
	Canada, Kuwait, and Italy.
	Colombia, Argentina, Chile.
	Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand.
	United States, Kenya, Yemen.
	Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia.
	You're not supposed to say the USA?
	Oh, okay.
	One more.
	Nigeria.
	Okay.
	How many continents are there?
	Seven.
	Anybody have a different answer?
	Okay, name one continent.
	Europe.
	Oh, Africa.
	Shop.
	North America.
	Australia.
	New Zealand?
	They're their own continent, right?
	What?
	Look, I will be honest, I failed geography.
	I failed here.
	New Zealand is a continent.
	Greenland and Greenland.
	This is not that.
	Let's do the ocean.
	I might just be.
	Do you want to take another crack?
	No, I think that's enough for me.
	It's Greenland.
	No, not Greenland.
	No, no, no, no.
	South America.
	Oceania.
	Is that what I was thinking of?
	Thank you.
	Wait, did we just miss?
	There's just the angles?
	No?
	Okay.
	All right.
	What two countries border the USA?
	Canada and South America?
	What was your question?
	Wait, no, no helping.
	No helping.
	What are the two countries that border the USA?
	Oh, countries.
	Yeah.
	Canada and Mexico.
	Okay.
	How many states in the USA?
	Is this 52?
	50?
	52.
	Isn't this 52?
	I've only been here for two years, okay?
	She's foreign.
	That's fair.
	Okay.
	How many states in the USA?
	51.
	How many states in the USA?
	50.
	Anybody?
	50.
	How many states?
	I think there's technically 51.
	Technically 51.
	I am with 50 states, Captain.
	There's 50 because Puerto Rico is a territory.
	Okay.
	What is the capital of the USA?
	The District of Columbia, Washington, D.C. How many stars are on the U.S. flag?
	50.
	Okay.
	What century are we in?
	I have no clue.
	Can you speak into the market?
	I have no clue.
	21st.
	Okay.
	How many in one dozen?
	That's the question.
	12.
	Oh, yeah.
	I got confused.
	You wanted to.
	How did I word it?
	How many in one dozen?
	Like, I thought.
	Like, what amount is one dozen?
	I thought what amount was.
	Can you speak into the microphone?
	What amount is one dozen?
	Like, I don't know.
	I just, I'm a little slow.
	I'll be honest.
	I think the phrasing was fine, but okay.
	What year?
	This one, I'll give you a tough one.
	Somewhat tough.
	What year was the U.S. founded?
	1845.
	Okay, take a guess.
	Can we go around?
	We go around.
	take a guess uh um she said 1845 right I'm just like desperately.
	Throw a guess, throw a guess.
	1907?
	1748.
	I don't know.
	Wait, into the mics, please.
	Into the mics.
	1836.
	I don't know.
	1776.
	1700 something.
	1776.
	1776.
	Okay.
	Who did the U.S. gain its independence from starting with you?
	Great Britain?
	Great Britain.
	Anybody have a different answer?
	Okay.
	Who was the first president of the United States?
	Washington.
	What country is the Great Wall of China in?
	I actually don't know.
	Guessing China, unless that's a trick question.
	Wait, is it a trick question?
	Asia?
	No, that's continent.
	Oh, sorry.
	Asia's continent.
	Oh.
	I just gotta stay silent for a sec.
	I said I'm slow.
	Intelligence.
	Okay.
	How many inches in a foot?
	12.
	How many seasons are there?
	Four.
	How many days in a year?
	365.
	How many letters in the alphabet?
	27.
	26.
	26.
	In line?
	26.
	28 in Russian.
	26.
	How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
	All of them.
	Hey!
	Oh, sorry.
	Hey, yeah.
	That wasn't going to go to you.
	I'm sorry.
	You were pointing to me.
	What's a shape with four sides called?
	Square.
	Technically quadrilateral.
	Well, it's okay.
	Quadrilateral.
	Rectangles.
	He didn't point at you.
	Just saying.
	Okay, what language do the people in Idaho speak?
	English.
	Anybody else want to take a guess?
	Potatoes.
	I was going to say Idahoian.
	Sorry, say that.
	Idahoian.
	One more time.
	Idahoian.
	Idahoian.
	Idaho, Udaho.
	Utahian.
	We identify as Idahoans.
	Wait, you're from Idaho.
	What the fuck do they speak there?
	Portuguese.
	Of course, obviously.
	To the ban.
	Okay.
	What ocean is California next to?
	The Pacific.
	Am I wrong?
	Am I wrong?
	How many years of this section?
	You did fantastic.
	What ocean is New York next to?
	Atlantic?
	Well done.
	That's my home.
	What is half of one million?
	500,000.
	How many years are in a decade?
	10.
	I think so.
	How many are in a century?
	100.
	If a dozen eggs costs three dollars, how much is each egg?
	A dozen eggs cost dozen eggs cost three dollars?
	How much is each egg?
	Hmm.
	I need to write.
	I need to write.
	I can't.
	You need to write it down?
	Yeah.
	You can't brain math it.
	I can't.
	Well, brain math on paper.
	It's 230.
	2.
	2.
	25 cents.
	It's 25 cents.
	25 cents.
	Okay.
	What is the closest star to Earth?
	The closest star to Earth.
	No help.
	No help.
	What is the closest star to Earth?
	it wasn't called like serious um you got this I believe in you.
	What's the name?
	Throw the name of a star.
	You're a star.
	You are a star.
	A lot of money.
	That's how you gotta remember.
	She's gonna make a lot of money.
	Is that in nevermind?
	Is that a nevermind?
	I was gonna say something.
	You know how there's like some names, like you just like Rupert.
	Like, you wouldn't be able to say that like in the bedroom.
	Yeah, like, oh, Rupert, yeah.
	No, fuck that.
	Like, Bill, too, I feel like.
	My head's all over the place.
	Closest star to Earth.
	Pretty sure the sun is considered a star, so the sun.
	Good job.
	I'm proud of you.
	You should not have started in OnlyFans because you're so smart.
	You're lying.
	No, seriously.
	So honest right now.
	You're lying.
	Okay.
	How many.
	Oh, my God.
	How many degrees is a full rotation of a circle for you?
	Close to the mic?
	What do you mean?
	How many degrees?
	360?
	Yes.
	If you're one.
	This one's boring.
	Do you know what year the world of 1812 started?
	1812?
	Correct.
	Why couldn't I have won the Civil War?
	Mine was like when?
	Hold on.
	What year the War of 1812 started?
	1812.
	Wait, repeat that.
	Congratulations, you got it right.
	What country is the Panama Canal in?
	I don't know.
	Wait, into the mic, into the mic.
	I don't know.
	You want to guess?
	Just throw a guess.
	No, I don't.
	Jupiter.
	That's not a country.
	Brian.
	Is it in Panama?
	Is it out?
	I don't.
	Is it in Egypt?
	Egypt, is it in?
	Can someone else answer the question, please?
	Djibouti?
	It's in Djibouti.
	It's in Yobu.
	Djibouti.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	Oh, shit.
	What country is the Panama Canal in?
	I think it's in South Note Continent.
	Let me think.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Take your time.
	You got this, girl.
	No, I don't.
	You got this.
	Jordan?
	What is... What is...
	Don't say yes!
	What country...
	What country is the Panama Canal in?
	I was saying Egypt.
	Egypt, okay.
	Yeah, the Suez, the Suez, yeah.
	What country is the Panama Canal in?
	I don't know.
	We didn't hear it, I think.
	She did.
	Oh, okay.
	I missed that.
	I don't know.
	Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
	Hawaii.
	What country did the Vietnam War happen in?
	You sure?
	Yeah.
	I don't know about that.
	Am I wrong?
	That's when they did like Nagasaki in that?
	Or was that something different?
	That is where they did Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
	Oh, wait.
	No, that's a different one.
	Yeah, we nuked the shit out of them.
	Vietnam is where we nuked them at Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
	No.
	Famous cities in Vietnam.
	No.
	Vietnam is where they were all rushing onto the plane in that war, right?
	I don't know.
	That's a blur for me.
	I have no idea.
	What country did the Victorian war happen in?
	Vietnam.
	You are correct.
	You won the prize.
	How much is a quarter of an hour?
	It's 25 minutes.
	Oh my God.
	How much is a quarter of an hour?
	15 minutes.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You got saved by the bell there.
	What is 34 plus 66?
	34 plus 66.
	That's a hundred.
	Yeah, a hundred.
	What is 7 plus 7 plus 7?
	21.
	What is 3 times 3 plus 1?
	7?
	No, not 10.
	Sorry.
	What?
	Times 3 plus 1?
	3 times 3 plus 1.
	Okay.
	Into the mic, into the mic.
	10.
	Okay, we have a chat here from D-Max.
	Ask the panel where New England is.
	Bonus for naming the six states.
	Where is New England?
	Okay, sure.
	What got you?
	Wait, into the mic, please.
	It's up near Canada and the states: New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Connecticut, New York.
	And what else was there?
	Pennsylvania.
	You did so good.
	Rhode Island.
	Nice.
	Okay, congrats.
	What is 7 minus 7 minus 7?
	Negative 7.
	7 minus 7 minus 7.
	Yeah, she's right.
	She's right.
	What is 100 minus 66?
	That would be 44?
	34?
	34.
	Hey, yeah, well, no, help and help.
	Let the girl answer the question.
	What is 8 plus 8 plus 8?
	24.
	What is 3 times 3 times 3?
	Like, like squared?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	2 times 3.
	Oh, yeah.
	3 times 3 times 3.
	27.
	9 plus 9 plus 9.
	27.
	9 and 30.
	What is 100 minus 34?
	100 minus 34, 66.
	What is 9 minus 9 minus 9?
	Negative 9.
	If yes is spelled Y E S. What does.
	Sorry.
	This is so old.
	Okay, all right.
	For you, if you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
	I would be the age that I am now.
	Wait, if I was born born 10 years ago, yes, I'll repeat it.
	That's fine.
	If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
	10.
	You win the prize.
	Congratulations.
	How many world wars were there?
	Two years old.
	Two.
	Probably about to be three, but two.
	That might be accurate.
	Yeah.
	This is for everybody to answer.
	Going around the table.
	What decade was World War I?
	The.
	Oh my god.
	I literally just answered this.
	Fuck.
	The 19.
	Am I wrong already?
	19 something?
	1910s, 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s.
	1910s.
	Okay, what do you think?
	What decade was the World War I in?
	Yeah.
	1940.
	Okay, what was that?
	Is that a second one?
	1890.
	1890, okay.
	Say 1910.
	1910?
	1910.
	1890.
	1890?
	Can I give the exact answer or no?
	Here, I guess we'll come back to you.
	What do you think?
	The 1910s.
	Okay, what's your exact answer?
	1914 and 1918.
	That is correct.
	What was the primary decade of World War II?
	The 1940s.
	1940s.
	1930s.
	1930s.
	1930s?
	Sure.
	1940s.
	Okay.
	1940s.
	Can I give the exact answer?
	The 1940s.
	1939 to 1945.
	Okay, can you name, I'll just, here, I'll just make, name one allied power, one axis power from World War II.
	Allies, well, that was like us, right?
	Can I name us?
	United States.
	Okay, one access power?
	Germany.
	Oh, wait, from World War what?
	Two?
	Two.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Germany.
	Access power.
	France.
	Access?
	Okay.
	That's the access power is France?
	United States?
	Is access or allied?
	Wait.
	Didn't you already say United States?
	You can't repeat.
	You gotta just pick with a new one.
	Truth.
	You should explain the difference between access and allied.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	How about this?
	Maybe it's like a different terminology in Russia.
	Okay, I'll just do one more person.
	One Allied power, one access power, World War II.
	I don't know what that means, so I skept.
	How about you have this?
	UK or Britain and Italy?
	For allied or access?
	Italy for access.
	Okay, name three Kardashians.
	Kim Kardashian.
	Hmm.
	Kim Kardashian?
	And Jennifer Kardashian?
	Jennifer Kardashian?
	Or hold on.
	Okay, whatever.
	Here, Mary, do we have all the age and yeah, so that's their jits?
	Yeah, yeah, but you kept the other ones too, right?
	yeah okay so we'll do we have a fun segment here a little intermission a few more questions then we're done uh okay Okay, just show of hands.
	Who here think uh show of hands who here thinks they'll be uh better looking in 10 years?
	Better looking.
	Chauvin's.
	You should see my mom.
	She's she's a MILF.
	Okay.
	20 years?
	Anybody better?
	Okay, whatever.
	All right, well, we're gonna do, we're gonna blast through these super quick.
	We've put you all through AI.
	So just so you guys can see, we like to show people, you know, what the future has in store.
	So we're gonna show you some AI stuff.
	We also gender swapped you.
	So you're gonna answer if you would date the male version of you.
	I have a question.
	Where did you get the pictures?
	From here?
	Oh, just like here.
	All right.
	You need to resize these, I guess.
	No, right corner, huh?
	Wait, wait, what?
	Pose for a picture.
	Wait, can you resize these?
	What the fuck?
	Did I miss this?
	Because, like, I believe from the first one.
	Wait, what?
	This is resize.
	Oh, yeah.
	You can't go bigger?
	Oh, I can.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we usually have it in the bigger.
	She low-key a baddie, though.
	When I'm like a MILF, not a GILF.
	She's not.
	Here, let's just.
	Next.
	Can you go bigger?
	Also a baddie.
	What the fuck?
	That's the future.
	I don't even want to see.
	Huh?
	They're never this big.
	Yeah, they have to be resized with the control mouse.
	At least I'm still skinny, though.
	Next.
	At least you're still skinny.
	You look like a cotton.
	next next next next next oh boy Here we go.
	Of course.
	Oh, no.
	Next.
	I look like Santa.
	Oh, is this the gender swap?
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	So, quick answers.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	Yeah.
	Next.
	Oh, no.
	You wouldn't date the male version of it.
	He's a good looking guy.
	He's looking weird.
	He looks weird.
	I mean, maybe you look weird.
	Maybe AI just doesn't know what the hell.
	So no, you wouldn't date him?
	No.
	Okay, next.
	Go back.
	Super cool.
	I mean, he looks like a.
	I might.
	I might give him a shot.
	Okay, next.
	You guys speak close into the mic, please.
	No.
	All right.
	Next.
	Yeah, probably.
	Okay.
	Next.
	She looks good.
	No.
	That picture doesn't look like me.
	Yeah, that doesn't look like her.
	The one on the left.
	Yeah, that doesn't look like her.
	That's you.
	It's a weird angle.
	Next.
	That's a weird angle.
	Oops.
	Oh, it wasn't bad.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	Slap a mustache on him.
	He's cute.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oh, she's, well, she's gone.
	Actually, kind of mogs, not gonna lie.
	Oh, yeah.
	That looked like Paul Walker.
	No, wouldn't date him.
	All right, let's see what they did here.
	Oh, boy.
	Next.
	Yeah, she's hot.
	She's a baby.
	What's that?
	Nothing.
	What?
	Nothing.
	No, I said that's not an attractive photo of you.
	You look very red.
	Why?
	I mean, I am a bit red.
	Are you a robot in that picture?
	I mean, yeah, she's a babe.
	I date her.
	Next.
	Or do we have the different batch?
	The different batch.
	Yeah, we'll do it.
	All right.
	You got to zoom in on all of these.
	Okay.
	Aww.
	Wait, what is that smile?
	Okay, next.
	Why am I looking at this?
	Next.
	Oh, too much.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	Why is she crying?
	Next.
	Why am I crying?
	Why are they all sad because you're old?
	I look ya.
	Wow.
	Wait, I got something for this.
	Hold on.
	Like, what the fuck is that?
	That's your future.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	People were like next.
	You look concerned.
	Next.
	Very serious.
	Also.
	Wait, that's cute.
	That looks damn good.
	Next.
	Like funky.
	Yeah, she looks good.
	Okay, next.
	Wow.
	We should have added some puke or something.
	Yeah, just like a barf bag or something of AI.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, you actually.
	All right, oh boy, I was Charlie.
	Charlie, who fucking charged me?
	Charlie, yeah, Charlie.
	Is that me?
	These are all random.
	The rest of them are.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	Okay, would you date your male looks equivalent?
	That's me?
	I guess that's you.
	It looks like my brother, so no.
	These guys are going to mog all of you, by the way.
	It literally looks like my brother.
	That's so weird.
	Next.
	What?
	Wait, who is that?
	Who's that fucking?
	This is literally what they fucking said.
	Is that supposed to be her?
	I don't even want to see me now.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, next.
	No.
	He's stressed out.
	Period.
	Clock it.
	Receiving hairline.
	Oh, that's you.
	Yeah, me and my receiving hairline.
	My glasses.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	I think they aged the guys a little bit.
	I don't know.
	Next.
	What the fuck?
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, he kind of mogs.
	He kind of does.
	Oh, my God.
	Would you smash?
	I would.
	Wood smash 10s.
	Wood smash 10 out of 10.
	Honestly, yeah, he's kind of Chad.
	Yeah.
	Major Chad.
	He looks like one of those with the hair, like a green.
	His change expression in the beginning, it's a little weird.
	Like, the way his eyes like him is.
	He's like, next.
	He's like, why are you looking at me?
	What?
	What?
	Who did these, bro?
	These are all balding, too, except for you.
	Would you?
	Yeah, probably.
	Okay, next.
	Yeah.
	Kind of looks like Tom Brady.
	Wait, is this you?
	I'm so confused.
	On one hand, they're like, they're weight.
	They're all balding, but they're all fucking mogging the shit out of the girls.
	No offense.
	Okay, next.
	Oops, sorry.
	Wait, this guy's like, she's like, wait, how old are you?
	You're like 20 or something?
	20.
	This guy's like in his 40s.
	What did they do to you?
	Oh, shit.
	It's funny, though.
	These are cool.
	Next.
	That was it.
	Oh, there's not.
	I got one.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, that's you.
	That is disturbing.
	Is there another one?
	Oh, okay.
	Why did they do your skin like that?
	You don't have bad skin.
	I don't know.
	It's okay.
	Next question: what does mogging mean?
	To mog?
	Yeah.
	You're better looking than them.
	So it's like a looks maxing term, but basically, if you mog somebody, you're better looking than them, basically.
	Okay.
	Maybe I'm too old to really afford it.
	If you go into a Walmart, like any average Walmart, you're going to mog everybody in the Walmart because you look better than them.
	Your looks are better than those people there.
	Okay.
	Exactly.
	Here, a few dating things Do you think you're Wait, hold on Oh, do you think your personality in terms of what men want is average, above average, or better?
	Above average.
	I'm kind of.
	Below average.
	But below average?
	My personality, yes.
	Unfortunately.
	She's self-aware, I guess.
	I think it's above average.
	Above.
	I've been a little quiet tonight.
	I don't, not that like, I don't know what I'm even trying to say there with it.
	I mean, I'm an observer.
	I observe, but I mean...
	Have you ever stabbed somebody?
	No.
	All fencing, yeah.
	It's a long story.
	See you in all the face.
	So I was at the mental hospital and I tried to stab the nurse with a syringe.
	I just have intuitions about people, you know, I just I look at somebody and I just know You should be a psychic.
	I'm fixed.
	I actually have a lot.
	There's a lot of subject matter coming from you.
	I'm detecting some crazy stuff.
	Okay, so above average, average, better, below average?
	Above average.
	Okay.
	Average.
	I think average.
	I can be convinced.
	Average.
	Above average.
	Sort of related charisma.
	Do you think you're charismatic?
	I guess this is more a yes or no.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	You?
	Yeah.
	You've got charisma.
	And I mean, you're nice and all, but I don't know if I.
	I don't know if I feel it.
	It takes a second.
	The chorus.
	It takes a second to get rid of it.
	It takes a second.
	Then again, that's total cope.
	If you have charisma, that shit is apparent.
	It's a very simple thing.
	How do you define that?
	Like, how do you define it?
	People matter.
	Charisma.
	Here, I'll just Google it so there's no disagreement.
	Yeah.
	Charisma.
	Riz.
	A compelling personal quality of magnetic charm, appeal, and influence that draws people in.
	Aura.
	Aura.
	Oh, you're a little quiet tonight.
	A little quiet.
	I don't know if I felt the charisma.
	I mean, I don't know what to say.
	What do you want me to say?
	I want you to say that you're a, well, I mean, you don't have to say anything, but I think you're a.
	Who knows what's deep.
	I feel like you've got some skeletons down there.
	You know, here, I don't know if anybody is like, oh gee, there's this, and I saw this a long time ago.
	Eddie Murphy had the stand-up comedy special back in the 80s.
	I'm sure none of you have seen it.
	It's called Raw.
	And he said, you got to be careful with the quiet.
	Not my, I'm going to say, not my words, his words.
	Okay, I'm just saying what he said.
	You got to be careful with the quiet bitches.
	Okay.
	I'm not saying you're a bitch.
	I would never say that.
	I'm not a misogynist.
	I'm a feminist, of course.
	I'm just saying, it's the quiet girls you got to watch out for.
	Like, they got skeleton.
	They got skeletons in the closet.
	Someone told that to me in high school.
	It's the quiet bitches.
	You gotta be watch out for.
	Well, I mean.
	Yeah, you do need to watch out, but we have very good characteristics.
	Like.
	Have you ever murdered somebody?
	No, I haven't.
	Have you ever flambéed?
	I don't even know what that means.
	Flambayed.
	Flambayed.
	Have you ever flambéed?
	Like food?
	I thought that's something else then.
	No, it's I don't know English.
	I have that really sucks for me.
	Yeah, I have flambeau.
	See, she gets me.
	She gets me.
	I like this girl.
	See, my humor goes over people's heads, but she gets it.
	She's on the same page.
	Good talk.
	Charisma?
	I just don't.
	You just, you're a little quiet, is all, you know?
	I love that for you, but you're just a little quiet, and I feel like you're nice, but I didn't detect charisma.
	Interesting.
	It's actually what a lot of my friends say that I'm very charismatic.
	I just think my dick, I don't know.
	Look, I'm you're entitled to your own opinion.
	Thank you for that.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	You are so cool.
	We all talked that you were a bit of a dick whenever we came in.
	Thank you.
	So you're welcome.
	I did not.
	I gave you a burrito.
	I didn't either.
	Oh, I should eat that probably.
	I thought you were going to be an asshole, and then I realized that you're actually kind of a normal person because I've never like watched.
	Yeah, you're not like a red.
	Like, not like, like, I don't know.
	No, she had a good time.
	All right, there you go.
	I enjoyed, yeah, I enjoyed my time thoroughly.
	Oh, rock and roll.
	Yeah.
	And you also didn't know much about my dating experiences to like ask about.
	You didn't know that I dated a plug when I was 17 and moved out of my mom's house and started dealing drugs with him.
	Yes.
	You didn't know that he got me hooked onto many drugs when I was dating him.
	You got hooked onto it?
	Yeah, I was hooked onto Molly.
	I don't know if being a drug addict gives you charisma, but I mean.
	But I'm an ex-drug addict.
	I don't do it anymore.
	I don't know if that gives you charisma.
	It gives me a good past and some good stories to tell.
	A good past or a bad past?
	Like an entertaining past.
	She has lore.
	Like a lore.
	Everyone here has a lore.
	The lore, you should have shared.
	You should have shared the lore.
	Yeah, but I think you can have Lauren be boring.
	I mean, depends how you express the lore.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	What am I supposed to do?
	Just say right out.
	Oh, yeah, I mean, I dealt drugs with my ex.
	I mean, I just did.
	You got to offer that shit up.
	You got to be upfront with that.
	You can't wait until the fucking deep, deep into the pot.
	You got to be like, listen, Brian.
	Have you done methamphetamine?
	On accident.
	Have you done heroin?
	No.
	Have you done cocaine?
	No.
	Wow.
	This is kind of a boring drug story.
	I'm a little disappointed.
	I did Molly and Acada once and got so tripped out that the paramedics had to come.
	And then when they came, oh, no, it's fine.
	It's not a big deal.
	But then, no, I don't.
	All right.
	You know what?
	I'm wrong about everything tonight.
	This is the chorus.
	This is the most charismatic panel.
	I'm wrong about everything.
	I'm just, you know, she's going to be a superstar.
	10 million.
	You know what?
	In the future, I'm going to be homeless in the streets of Los Angeles, and she's going to be like, she's going to walk past me and she's going to recognize me.
	She's going to be like, fuck you, Brian.
	She's like, fuck you.
	Oh, check this shit out.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And she's going to be, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And she's going to drop some like Russian gangster rap shit.
	Hell yeah.
	Can you rap, bro?
	I'm not.
	Oh, yes.
	Wait, wait.
	Please rush.
	We didn't get a taste of the rap skills.
	Can you drop a bar?
	It's more of a singing style.
	It's more of a melodic rap.
	But you can favorite songs.
	Do you do melodic rap?
	Yeah.
	I would love to hear some.
	Somebody give her a beat.
	Wait, maybe not the white girl.
	Hold on.
	Get to it.
	I don't know.
	Well, everyone else is white.
	Except for the Italian.
	Okay.
	Do you think you're average?
	Average for what?
	Just in general.
	In general.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	No.
	No, I think I'm Courtney King, and I'm going to be a starter.
	You're going to stab somebody.
	I already did that.
	Oh, my God.
	You're so late.
	You were about to say I was going to stab you.
	That's crazy.
	No, I'm Courtney King.
	I'm a star.
	I believe in violence at the whatever podcast.
	That's insane.
	Okay.
	I'm just going to skip a bunch of these.
	Okay.
	What percentage of men do you think are over six feet?
	Not many.
	0%.
	30?
	30.
	34.
	34%.
	34, okay.
	34.
	I don't know.
	20.
	20.
	I'll say 30%.
	15.
	I think it's 10 to 15.
	45?
	45%?
	I'll say like 18%.
	18%.
	Okay.
	I believe it's maybe 15%.
	What percent of men make at least $1 million a year?
	15?
	I don't know.
	15%?
	Okay.
	What percent of men?
	Make at least $1 million per year.
	Probably 18%.
	18%?
	Okay.
	5%.
	5%?
	Okay.
	12%.
	12%?
	Less than 1%.
	Okay.
	5% lower.
	5%?
	Like 0.3%?
	Less than 1%.
	It's less than 1%.
	Damn.
	18%?
	5 to 13%?
	4%.
	Everyone talks about how much money they have here.
	What percent of men have yachts?
	Men have what?
	Yachts.
	Oh, I thought you said fiancé in a weird way.
	Well, less than 1%.
	Probably less than 2%.
	Probably 0.1%.
	1%.
	Less than 1%.
	Less than 1%.
	Okay.
	Are you going to tell us the answers or?
	It's less than 1%.
	Okay, great.
	I don't know the exact answer.
	Okay, we already talked about roster stuff, whatever.
	Just really quick, if you want to just throw out, what's the biggest the roster's ever been for you?
	At a time?
	At any given time.
	One.
	I don't talk to multiples unless that's cheating.
	Yeah.
	Well, does that count as a roster?
	Restaurants are single.
	I mean, what considers, like, what's considered a roster?
	Whatever you think it is.
	Whatever you want it to be.
	I don't say three, but just talking.
	Okay.
	Roster.
	One.
	One.
	Three.
	Three.
	I was.
	Okay.
	I was trying to pick between two guys one time, but I'd only been on like one date with each of them.
	One.
	Affirmative.
	Okay.
	Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	I have.
	I know you all view me as a beacon of virtue and chastisement.
	Holy man.
	But I have lore.
	Okay, what's the quickest you've ever hooked up with a guy?
	And I'll go first.
	Not a guy, though.
	It's a guy.
	Wait, that sounded...
	I knew it!
	Sounds a little gay.
	That's a little gay.
	I'll go first.
	Sounds a little gay.
	But okay, I'll take the L. I'm gonna take the L on that.
	Oh my gosh.
	Quickest, the quickest with a woman.
	With a woman.
	Just wanted to clarify.
	Not with a guy.
	Never been with a man.
	Right.
	Would you be gay for would I be gay for pay, though?
	That's the question.
	For another day.
	Okay.
	For another day, we'll have to.
	I think it was probably under an hour.
	Was the quickest I slept with a woman.
	After meeting her for the first time?
	Yeah, under less than an hour.
	I had a college period.
	Same.
	My husband.
	There was a laundry room involved.
	And a beach one time.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Quickest you've ever slept with someone?
	Oh.
	Like two weeks?
	Two weeks?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I lied on the first one.
	Three hours.
	Was it a Chinese guy?
	No.
	It was.
	Swaley?
	No.
	Did you fuck Swaley?
	Did you fuck Swaley?
	Not yet.
	Oh, shit.
	Not yet.
	Oh, shit.
	She's in her child.
	I know the guy I lost my virginity too, and it was after like an hour.
	One hour?
	Wait, you lost.
	Wait, hold on.
	Rewind.
	I lost my life.
	Virginity.
	Yeah, after an hour of knowing him.
	I was 15 and he was 19.
	Whoa, okay.
	Oh, there's a whole there's a lot there.
	Unpack a little bit.
	Would that count?
	Like our virginities?
	Damn.
	Yeah, I walked down to his house.
	I added him on Snap.
	We figured out we live two minutes away from each other.
	So I was like, okay, I walked down to his house and we.
	I mean, aside from the age thing, which is a little iffy, I feel like to take a woman's virginity in like an hour's time, that's a big dub.
	I mean, the age shit, that's weird.
	Whatever.
	But like to take a virginity in one hour?
	Damn.
	That's crazy.
	That's an achievement right there.
	Yeah, and then like two months later, I saw his mug shot posted online because he robbed this hotel.
	That's so remote.
	It was so weird.
	You picked such a great guy to lose your virginity to.
	Have you had like boyfriends before that?
	Before that, I did have a boyfriend.
	Have you ever made a guy wait to have sex?
	I didn't.
	And that's what I was getting into about like why.
	What if a woman?
	I haven't.
	And that's why I was getting into like, what if a woman realizes her past is like wrong and wants to like change that?
	Yeah, well, first delete the OnlyFans, then we can talk about, you know, you want to wait three weeks, three months, whatever.
	You got to get rid of the OnlyFans, though.
	Just delete that shit.
	But imagine, boys, chat, chat, really quick for the boys.
	For the boys.
	You guys can be my boys for a bit.
	Imagine, just imagine you got a dick.
	All the women at the table, just imagine you got a dick.
	First off, raise your hand if you'd have a big dick, if you were a guy.
	Would you have a big dick?
	You'd have a big dick.
	Big dick.
	She's Christian.
	She doesn't talk about.
	I'm Asian.
	It's okay.
	Would you have a big banana?
	How about that?
	Is that okay?
	Big banana?
	Cucumber?
	Whatever.
	All of you would have big dicks.
	I would have a huge dick.
	You would have a huge dick, but I'm not sure about the rest of you.
	So anyway.
	I'm pretty confident.
	Okay, well.
	So anyways, I actually just lost my train of thought, but now I just asked you about dicks for some reason.
	Oh, no, okay.
	Do you have a big dick?
	Average.
	It's average.
	Sorry.
	I appreciate your honesty.
	I'm an honest guy.
	Who here has a big labia?
	I actually think my labia is decent size.
	Honestly.
	I'm not going to disclose that.
	I have a big, like, what do you mean big, though?
	Like, an Audi.
	Because some people have like hanging like flat inner lady that you could all eye together.
	I don't have that.
	What was the for the boys question?
	I'm getting it.
	Okay.
	Audi?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	She's kind of a little bit.
	Wow.
	I'm in love.
	Okay, so anyways.
	Wait, the for the boys question.
	Wait, what the fuck was the question?
	Wait.
	What are your boys?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, I got it.
	I got it.
	It was related to the losing virginity in one hour thing.
	Do you think, wait, if you had a dick and you were a dude and like you were dating a girl and she was like, I want to wait.
	And then you found out that she lost her virginity in one hour, would you feel a bit like raw deal?
	Well, I would be very open with him about all of my experiences and like why I lost my virginity and like that soon and why I chose to do it that way.
	Because there's a whole backstory about it.
	It's okay.
	It's just, it's not something I have to get into.
	Yeah, we don't have to do that.
	Yeah.
	Let's not.
	Maybe we shouldn't do that.
	We probably shouldn't.
	But I'm just saying.
	I don't know.
	I would feel if I was like dating a girl, you know.
	And it's like the 10th date.
	And we're like, she doesn't even want to take her top off.
	I wouldn't make you wait that long, though.
	That's sweet.
	Thank you.
	She's a nice girl.
	Charismatic.
	If I was on date number 10 and she's like, I don't know if I want to do it.
	And then somehow I find out through the grapevine.
	Is that the grapevine?
	Yeah.
	Is that the grapevine?
	Yeah.
	It's not another kind of vine.
	No, grapevine.
	Perfect.
	Just wanted to check.
	I don't want to misspeak here on the one.
	I'm kidding.
	I might just explode.
	Well, this is.
	Like combustion.
	Like, if I'm on date number 10 and she's like, yeah, I don't want to take my top off.
	And then I find out she fucked.
	She lost her virginity in one hour.
	But I feel like it would be besides my.
	I'd be like, what the fuck?
	Virginity stories are their own thing.
	But you gotta like, that's gotta be like, you know.
	I lost my virginity on a soccer field.
	Like, that doesn't mean I'm gonna go have sex on a soccer field with the guy on a 10th date.
	You know, like, it just happened there.
	Was it artificial turf or was it natural grass?
	Real grass.
	I touched grass.
	What?
	Whoa.
	Asked grass.
	Grass to grass.
	Do I have an interesting losing virginity?
	Hell yeah.
	Anyways, okay.
	Oh, no.
	I'm just, I think that's interesting.
	Okay.
	Quickest you've ever hooked up with a guy.
	Quickest.
	Probably hour, hour and a half.
	Okay.
	Probably a few hours.
	Two hours?
	Three to five hours.
	Three to five?
	Less than an hour.
	Nothing.
	Okay.
	Less than an hour.
	Okay.
	Has anyone here had the threesome show of hands?
	Threesome?
	Threesome.
	Okay.
	More than the threesome, foursome?
	Orgy?
	No.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	Oh, boy.
	Are you from?
	You said you're from Jersey?
	Texas.
	I'm from Texas.
	Wait, who's from Jersey?
	I grew up in Jersey.
	Oh.
	Because I hear in New York they got these like crazy sex clubs or whatever.
	Okay, was it guy, guy, girl, or girl, girl, guy?
	It was technically a full swap, and it was my ex's idea.
	Like partner swap?
	Yeah.
	So it was a force, foursome?
	Altogether, yeah.
	Yeah.
	He was into it.
	I was not, but I, you know, as you say, submit to your man.
	No, that's what I did.
	No, you don't want to do that.
	That is not a man that should be leading you.
	Yeah.
	Well, we found that out.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	Who here has had a ho-phase?
	I think we kind of asked this maybe.
	Okay, has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period?
	Wait, can you define?
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	Yes, What is hooking up consistently?
	Sex.
	Oh, no.
	Had sexual carnal knowledge.
	Don't tell me.
	P and the V. Ew.
	P in the V. No.
	What about three guys in 24 hours?
	I had a phase.
	Oh, you?
	Three guys into the game?
	You're so real.
	Four guys?
	Five guys?
	Great restaurant.
	Burgers and fries.
	Okay, how many in a seven-day period?
	Most guys in a seven-day period.
	Four.
	Four?
	I think three.
	Three?
	I don't remember.
	Two.
	Two in seven days?
	Yeah.
	Was it the Chinese guy?
	Are you sure that your body count is three?
	It might be four.
	I think it's three or four.
	Seriously, I think it's you can't remember.
	I have a little list.
	Are you only counting the like Arizona guys?
	No, it's okay.
	It's four in total.
	Does it count as a body if you don't climax?
	Yes.
	That's a great question.
	Does it count as a body if you don't remember their first name?
	Yes.
	Does it count as a body if you murdered them afterwards?
	It counts as a double body.
	It counts as two bodies.
	That went too far.
	That went a little far.
	Okay.
	Do men suck?
	No, no.
	Oh, do men suck?
	Do men suck?
	Some?
	Hey, some are gay.
	Christian, by the way.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	If you is it, okay, I think this is.
	This might be our final one.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Hey, hey, come on.
	Hey, chilla.
	Hey, we're almost done.
	Hey, come almost done.
	Hey, hey, three cups of coffee.
	Okay, so final, sort of final question, I promise.
	Is it gay for a man to date a trans woman?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	I'm confused.
	There's still a man.
	Wait.
	No.
	Yeah, I'm confused too.
	No, it's probably a man.
	So, like, me.
	If I dated a trans woman.
	So born male.
	Still male.
	They have a vagina now.
	Yeah, I was going to say, do they have surgery?
	We could grant that there's the.
	Look, let's not be insulting to women.
	That's not pussy.
	Agreed.
	It's not that.
	A hole is a hole, though.
	Whoa, okay.
	That's what guys would be saying.
	What is that?
	A hole is what guys say.
	Not referring to trans people, but like ugly girls and whatnot.
	Is it gay for a man to date a trans woman?
	Yep.
	Whether there's a penis or whatever that thing is.
	In my opinion, is it more dumb dick once?
	I think that's gay.
	Is it gay if a guy sucks to you?
	Yeah.
	Just once, though.
	Just one time.
	Just one time to exterior as a guy.
	Just the tip.
	Yeah.
	Just a tip.
	Just the suck.
	Just to see how it feels.
	I have a counter question for you, actually.
	I know.
	You know, like, is he current?
	I don't know.
	Because if you don't consider that gay, then maybe you wouldn't consider getting with a trans person gay.
	But if you do, like in the moment, in the moment, it's definitely gay.
	Yeah, why?
	So if you were like actively dating a trans woman, I would say like, but but you did and then you were like, eh, not for me.
	So if you saw a dick once and you don't like it, like with that, because that's like one of the same thing.
	Because a trans woman would have a dick, right?
	Because it's like my point.
	Well, if like you believe this idea that people are like fluid or whatever in their sexuality, then like, okay, how about this?
	A guy when he was 20 sucked a dick once.
	By the way, I'm not like making a defense of dick sucking, okay?
	But a guy when he was 20 sucked a dick one time.
	Should I include that he was really drunk?
	Whatever, it doesn't matter.
	And then he's only had sex with women.
	He's now 40 and he's only had sex with women.
	He's never had the desire to do it again.
	Is he gay?
	No.
	A little bit.
	A little bit.
	A little bit, like a teeny bit gay.
	There's a drop of gay.
	I'd say it was like just experimenting.
	There's a drop of gay.
	There's a drop of gay.
	No.
	Experimenting maybe if you kiss the guy, but if you put the dick.
	I have a question.
	What's the question?
	Do you think it would be gay if a man were to fuck a trans man who has a penis, but was born a woman originally?
	Technically, it would not be gay.
	Technically.
	To have a dick in your booty.
	Oh, sorry.
	Wait.
	Peep in your booty.
	It wouldn't be gay.
	Like you hooking up with a trans man.
	I thought you were fucking the trans man.
	Oh, you're fucking the trans man in his ass, though, because he has a dick now.
	Which is a female.
	You're fucking a female in the ass.
	With balls hitting you.
	No.
	They don't do that.
	I don't think they have balls in the bottom surgery.
	No.
	They don't?
	No.
	Why are you upset by this?
	I'm not upset.
	I'm shocked.
	I'm so disappointed.
	I don't think it's gay.
	It's a fetish.
	Well, I would just.
	I would expect there to be balls.
	If you pull a dick out, there's no balls.
	I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
	Well, hmm.
	It actually, look, the trans man, it's probably gay.
	It's probably gay.
	Although it depends what we're talking about.
	So if we're defining gay as homosexual, so my position would be if you're a trans man, you're still a you're female.
	Yeah.
	Your gender identity, like you're the way you portray yourself is masculine, but you're technically still a female.
	So if I'm looking at what is homosexuality, attraction to the opposite sex, technically it wouldn't be gay, but it's still kind of gay.
	I don't know.
	I think it would be like super gay.
	I don't know.
	I think anything involving that whole like community, if you're dabbling in it, you're gay.
	Like they're all fruity.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking more just like in terms of a logical perspective.
	Okay, final question.
	What sort of, sort of, what is a woman?
	What is a woman?
	What is a woman?
	A woman has a coochie and tatas and can have oh, that's messed up.
	Can have babies.
	Wow.
	That's really well, because some women can't have babies.
	I think you owe her an apology, to be honest.
	No, I don't know.
	That was really offensive.
	I have a uterus.
	She has a uterus.
	She can.
	I kind of think that's an apology right there.
	With all my heart, I'm so sorry.
	What is a woman?
	I'm not offended.
	A person who was born at a female person who was born with a uterus and can reproduce.
	Okay.
	We're defining it that way.
	Because I was going to say just creation of life.
	Because they birth life.
	Is that or you do want like a actual definition of a woman?
	How long is that audio?
	I've never heard that.
	It's really long.
	I should probably fix that.
	Someone with 2x chromosomes.
	Wow.
	That's okay.
	2x chromosomes.
	Okay.
	Final segment, makeup, and then we're done.
	Who's going to take it?
	You're going to take it off?
	Take it off.
	Wait, Morgan's going to embrace it.
	Maya mascara has been bothering me so much.
	I literally was going to ask you to make sure that you're going to be able to make up yourself.
	You're going to take the lashes off or you got to keep it up.
	I'm not sure I take the lashes off.
	I'm not wearing any entire hair.
	Nice.
	Cool.
	All right.
	And then just save it because you're going to show.
	You're going to show the stream.
	This is our final thing.
	I'll just do the outro while they're taking off their makeup.
	I'm going to go to the bathroom to do it.
	So that works.
	Okay.
	Can I come with you?
	Hey, one at a time.
	Okay, okay.
	Or you can just do in the monitor.
	You can do it here.
	All right.
	So I want to say GG, well played.
	Oh, wait, I'm not supposed to say.
	GG.
	Well played.
	To the panel.
	Guys, like the button, please, on your way out.
	Oh, my God.
	I was not.
	Okay, whatever.
	The long stream.
	Thank you.
	Yo, you guys were dope.
	You guys were really fun.
	I know there were some disagreements.
	I know it's kind of a dick tonight, but you guys were really cool.
	Thank you for coming on the podcast.
	And thank you guys.
	To those of you who made it to the end without vomiting.
	Guys, leave a nice comment.
	Once the live ends, I read them.
	Positivity is nice.
	Helps the algorithm.
	Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We're going to be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM at whatever on Instagram.
	If you want to be on the podcast and you can tolerate my obnoxious, toxic, whatever, whatever.
	07's in the chat.
	oh seven's in the chat we'll just uh can i have you guys like show the the makeup show Let's see the damage.
	I love those.
	There's so many.
	See the damage.
	I'm about done.
	Kids over here.
	Oh, over here.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	You look more Italian now.
	Are you Italian?
	French and Irish.
	French and Irish.
	Okay, I was wrong.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	That was good.
	Hold it up.
	Hold it up.
	There it is.
	Oh, and did you take the lashes off?
	Wait, I want to see what you're doing.
	Did you save them?
	Wait.
	I like your regular lashes.
	Does our average change without?
	Should I change the looks or anything?
	If you think that it's changed.
	I won't go through everything, but did you take your makeup off?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hello?
	You just had me hook the whole thing up.
	It probably might reduce some scores by like 0.5 or 1, maybe.
	Yeah.
	Mary, are we forgetting anything or is that it?
	No, no, we don't have to do that.
	No, nothing.
	Are we for a while?
	I know.
	I have not.
	Holy shit.
	What is going on with the whatever podcast?
	This is ridiculous.
	This is absurd, preposterous, obnoxious.
	Mary, I swear I'm forgetting something, though.
	I'm forgetting something.
	I think we hit everything.
	Any final thoughts quick from anybody before we wrap the show?
	Thank you so much.
	Hello, B. Thank you.
	Oh, thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	Should we bow before we leave?
	Yes.
	Yes, you should all bow and you should all do my laundry and you should all clean the studio afterwards.
	Good bow.
	I want you all to clean the studio.
	Actually, I do have some laundry that needs to be done, so maybe we'll see what we can do.
	All right, guys, you guys were so fun.
	You guys were dope.
	I had a good time.
	It was not, never got too heated tonight.
	So you guys let me get away with too much, by the way.
	You didn't really say anything too crazy, though.
	I said some crazy shit.
	Come on.
	I said some crazy shit.
	You guys let you guys let me get away with too much.
	I was hoping for I know.
	I actually think you might look better without the makeup, to be honest.
	All right, there you go.
	Nice little compliments after I crushed her spirit entirely.
	Yeah, right?
	Maybe, Chad?
	I don't know.
	Do I look younger?
	Like, I probably do.
	Actually, you might more mature.
	Not like a bad way, though.
	Oh, wow.
	You look like a model, girl.
	Well, this is the first time I've seen your face print like that.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	Mary, what are we forgetting?
	That's good.
	Guys, leave a comment after we wrap the show.
	07s in the chat.
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