Whatever Podcast - Picky Travel Nurse DEMANDS 6ft3 Man Who Makes $100,000+ Per Year?! Jake! E-GIRLS!

Sept. 18, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

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Picky Travel Nurse DEMANDS 6ft3 Man Who Makes $100,000+ Per Year?! Jake! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #197

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	And well, without further ado, actually we'll quickly disclaimer the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel.
	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
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	Whatever fan donated, $200.
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	Name, age, occupation, location.
	Where are you from?
	Hi, my name is Gabby.
	I'm 27 years old, and I'm a travel nurse from Kansas City, Missouri.
	Travel nurse?
	You grew up in Kansas City?
	Yeah, I grew up there, but I live in Los Angeles right now.
	Wait, Kansas City, Missouri?
	Very like the Chiefs.
	Football.
	Wait, Kansas City is not in Kansas?
	No, there's two different ones, actually.
	How did I not know?
	How did I not know this?
	There's two cans.
	So, Kansas City is like on the middle of the border.
	So, there's a Kansas City, Kansas, and a Kansas City, Missouri.
	I guess there's like a Miami in Ohio, isn't there?
	Oh, really?
	Isn't there a Miami in Ohio?
	Anyways, okay.
	How long have you been?
	You're an RN?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And I kind of want Travel Nurse.
	So what's your current assignment?
	Is that the term that's used?
	Yeah, so we do contracts for about nine weeks to 13 weeks.
	But I've been extending my contracts.
	I've been in LA for almost a year now.
	Okay.
	And how many different cities have you been in?
	I've lived in Kansas City, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Scottsdale, and now Los Angeles.
	So five.
	So like five different places.
	Okay, got it.
	Are you planning to go somewhere else soon?
	Because I mean, you travel nurse, so you gotta go.
	Is it like, don't you guys move every six months or something?
	Some people like to move every three months, but I feel like that's way too quick to like build friendships and like have a good home life.
	So I like to stay for about a year, nine months to a year.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Do you know where you're off to next?
	No plans yet.
	No plans yet.
	Okay.
	Where's the favorite place that you've been so far?
	Well, it depends what you're looking for.
	Partying, definitely Miami.
	If you like to hike outdoors, Scottsdale.
	And then I think Los Angeles has a good mixture of both where you can have fun, go to the beach, and you can go hiking if you want to.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Fife, 31 years old.
	I'm from Amsterdam, Netherlands, Europe.
	And since September, I'm a full-time Twitch partner streamer.
	What do you stream?
	Mostly World of Warcraft right now with the War Within, Diablo 4, City Builders, IndieGames, Narrative, Variety.
	Wait, you're a retail player?
	Yeah.
	That's the fucking 50 DKP minus!
	What the fuck?
	What's that?
	Retail.
	Unbelievable.
	What does that mean?
	Retail?
	Retail, World of Warcraft.
	So there's Classic and then there's Retail.
	So Retail is the more recent iteration of the game.
	And then Classic, the game came out like 20 years ago.
	So Classic's kind of like the OG original version.
	Never played.
	I feel like I'm missing out.
	You are missing out, but it's also highly pretty addictive game.
	Very time-consuming.
	I don't play anymore, but I used to.
	Yeah.
	Okay, very cool.
	So you'd stream World of Warcraft, Variety streaming too, like different games, you said?
	Yeah.
	Okay, how long have you been streaming?
	Six and a half years now.
	And do you do any kind of other content like OF or anything like that?
	No.
	No, OF.
	Okay.
	And then school?
	Any school back in the Netherlands?
	Well, yeah, I did cultural social work and after that I did a master's degree in anthropology.
	Anthropology.
	So I actually lived in San Francisco for three months during that researching tech startup culture.
	Oh, so you got your master's in SF?
	No, I got it.
	From an American university or from a Dutch university, but I did my research in SF.
	Okay.
	Which University of Hulman?
	None.
	No, it was not.
	I went just there with nobody that I knew and just to figure out everything, went to all the pitch events, to startup grinds, just met all people and lived in a startup house for three months.
	Okay, very cool.
	What about you?
	Yeah, my name is Glosske, but you can say Gloss because it's easier to pronounce.
	I'm 31 years old.
	I'm also from the Netherlands, but I'm from the south, so a little bit further away from Amsterdam, unfortunately.
	And I'm trying to think.
	Occupation?
	I'm a content creator.
	What kind of content do you do?
	Mainly on Twitch.
	OF, Fansly, you know, TikTok, Twitter, all that.
	OnlyFans?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And university at all, any school?
	Yeah, so I'm a graphic designer.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't do it anymore because I thought it was kind of boring, but that's what I studied for.
	I used to specialize in packaging design.
	Got it.
	Wait, and you said you're from the south of the Netherlands?
	Yeah.
	So there's the Netherlands and then Holland.
	Isn't that the north?
	Holland is the north?
	That's like Amsterdam area.
	That's Holland.
	Holland is the north.
	West.
	West.
	It's the West.
	West.
	Okay.
	Sorry, West.
	Okay.
	Is there a name for the southern region of?
	Well, it's called Limburg.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Selena, I'm 19, occupation, corn store.
	All right.
	Where are you from?
	Right now I'm in Burbank.
	Where did you grow up, though?
	Oh, Colorado.
	Colorado.
	Jersey.
	Breckenridge.
	Nah, like Denver.
	Denver, okay.
	What about you?
	I'm 19.
	I go to.
	Ruby.
	My name is Ruby.
	I'm 19.
	I'm currently sort of unemployed.
	I grew up in Bakersfield, but I'm currently living here in Santa Barbara.
	And I go to UC Santa Barbara.
	I'm majoring in the history of public policy and law.
	All right.
	Do you want to be a lawyer?
	Criminal defense, yes.
	Criminal defense, okay.
	All right, welcome.
	I'm Madison.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm currently a student at Santa Barbara City College, and I'm here at the Whatever podcast.
	All right.
	I'm Jake.
	I'm 28 years old.
	YouTube channel is Rattlesnake TV.
	Podcast is reality-based.
	Today we've got the link tree in the bio, so you guys can find all of the links down there.
	And looking forward to a good show.
	W Mason, as well.
	Sorry.
	I'm Yael.
	I'm 20, and I'm a UCSB student studying communications and film design.
	Second year, third year?
	I'm a third year.
	All right.
	I am Brian Atlas, 35, Santa Barbara, California.
	Washed up over the hill has been YouTuber.
	And yeah, let's just get right.
	Or relationship status, of course.
	So, guys, what is your current relationship status?
	Single talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polykill, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	i've been single for about four years and my just kidding And my longest relationship was a year and a half in high school.
	Longest relationship, a year and a half in like junior, sophomore, senior?
	Like junior to senior year of high school.
	All right.
	So have you had a boyfriend since you, since high school?
	Yeah, I've had a few boyfriends, but just long term.
	Nothing longer than a year and a half.
	Yeah.
	What's the longest outside of high school, longest relationship?
	Probably about a year.
	A year.
	Okay.
	It's like it's shorter every time because I'm pickier and have higher standards.
	You're pickier and have higher standards as the years go on.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	We should get into that picky.
	Let's talk about being picky, having standards.
	That's always a good thing, you know, having standards.
	Let's see.
	And then you said you've been single for four years.
	So the one-year boyfriend, was that the one that ended four years ago?
	No.
	No.
	It was in college.
	It was my one year.
	Okay, got it.
	But you said you were single four years ago.
	How long was the relationship that ended four years?
	Wait, the first relationship?
	Or the most recent?
	So you said you've been single for four years, so I'm assuming four years ago.
	My most recent relationship was six months, but it was during COVID.
	So does that really count?
	Wait, does it really count?
	Maybe, I guess.
	During COVID?
	Yeah.
	I feel like relationships are so different during COVID.
	What was the nature of the relationship?
	Well, it was during lockdown, so you didn't really have any options.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And so are there any guys in the picture currently?
	No, none.
	Nothing?
	The roster's open.
	Roster's open.
	Well, are there people on the roster?
	No, I just cleared the bench.
	You cleared the bench?
	What happened?
	Nothing in particular.
	Just no one that I'm interested in right now.
	How recently did you clear the bench?
	Maybe like within the past month?
	Past month.
	What happened with the bench woman?
	The bench woman wasn't performing?
	Yeah, weren't performing and just got bored.
	Anything in particular they were doing that just weren't treating me right.
	Yeah.
	Just toxic.
	But if you've got a roster, toxic is implicit, isn't it?
	No, it's because they're just like trying out to make the team.
	Okay.
	And they didn't.
	Cool.
	So they didn't make it past trials?
	No.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	You are on a dating app though, currently.
	Yeah.
	We'll react a little later to the dating app.
	When's the last time you were on the date?
	Maybe like a few weeks ago.
	A few weeks ago?
	First date, second date, third date?
	First date.
	No.
	Second date?
	Not yet.
	Didn't go well?
	It was a good date, but there's just some traveling happening and distance.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've been in a relationship for four years now.
	Before that, I was single for about eight years, and this is also my longest relationship.
	So you've been in a relationship for four years.
	Before that, single for eight years.
	And this is your longest.
	Got it.
	How did you guys meet?
	It was at a festival.
	A rave?
	No, it's a very towncy festival.
	It's all about sailing, and there's a lot of coffer bands playing in the city.
	And then we met, and he invited me to go to this island with his friends.
	And I said yes.
	So in the middle of the night, we went to an island at a campfire.
	It was super fun.
	Then I was, yeah, I don't know.
	His friend called Dips on me.
	Yeah, they have this bro coat.
	So his friends had called dips and I liked the current boyfriend, the current guy.
	So I had to go with the dips guy into a tent.
	I didn't like him, so I just left.
	And then I found this little boat and I asked for a ride, so I just disappeared.
	And then two years later, I found him again.
	Wait, leave that, Austin.
	Leave that?
	Is that?
	Is that Puffy Vegas?
	Hold on.
	This guy's been gone for like, what, a year?
	can't be him is this is this like a it it's not didn't he usually have a photo of his face yeah Yeah, I do.
	Is this the real Puffy Vegas?
	That's Puffy Vegas.
	I need you to send me a DM right now.
	You guys send me a DM right now on Instagram and tell me if this is you, because we have DM history.
	So, wow, it's been a while since I've seen you, man.
	Welcome back to the chat, man.
	We missed you, dude.
	Every episode we do a little vigil.
	And we're like, when's he going to come back?
	So good to see you in the chat, man.
	I think you kind of finished the story, though.
	What about you?
	I am single currently.
	My longest relationship was six years.
	I've been single for three years now.
	And not really seeing anyone, seriously.
	Not looking either.
	When's the last time you were on the date?
	Maybe a few weeks ago.
	A few weeks ago?
	Was it the first date?
	Yeah.
	First date.
	No guys in the picture?
	Maybe.
	Maybe a little bit.
	One, two, three, four.
	How many guys?
	No, one.
	So there's kind of one guy in the picture.
	Maybe, yeah.
	Is it the guy that you went on the date with a few weeks ago?
	Has there been a second date, third date, fourth date?
	Yeah, there has been.
	Okay.
	But I wouldn't call it a date.
	We just hang out.
	Yeah.
	See where things go.
	No, I understand.
	Some people, I guess, misunderstand when I asked date.
	For me, a date would just be you're hanging out with somebody who you have a romantic interest in, essentially.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	Okay.
	Ever had a roster?
	What does that mean?
	Multiple guys dating multiple guys?
	No, at the same time?
	Or what?
	No.
	Isn't that common in the Netherlands?
	What?
	No.
	It's not like having boyfriends.
	It's like you go on a date with someone and then you'll go on a date with another person, but it's not like you're actually dating.
	Dating.
	I don't know.
	I don't think it's fair.
	I think if you date, you should focus on one person.
	Sure.
	W.
	And are you, were you born in the Netherlands?
	Yeah.
	You're Dutch.
	Yeah.
	Dutch.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	Single, been single for a year.
	Wait, have you really, though?
	What?
	Have you really been single for a year?
	I mean, pretty much, yeah.
	I mean, maybe date here and there, but like...
	Okay.
	Single for a year?
	I mean, like, I've been, like, I don't know, like, I've kind of, I don't know.
	But yeah, pretty much, like, with, like, a label of like boyfriend, it has been a year, but like an official label.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Um, a month.
	One month?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	It's okay.
	Now and later.
	Thank you for the $100 super chat.
	I really appreciate it, man.
	So let's see.
	And by the way, that thing in the corner here, we are factoring in the super chats for Mason's medical expenses, but this is linked to Streamlabs.
	So we are factoring in the super chats, but it's only going to display, because it's linked to Streamlabs, it can only consider the Streamlabs donations just for the overlay that we have there in the corner.
	But do not worry, we're also including the Super Chats.
	When's the last time you've been on the date?
	I don't remember, actually.
	I'm not going to lie.
	When's the last time you hung out with a guy?
	I mean, I guess just hung out.
	Yesterday?
	No.
	Like, maybe like two or three months ago.
	Okay.
	All right.
	When's the last time you shot a scene?
	Oh, I've been on vacation for a few weeks.
	Oh, yeah.
	So, yeah, like I was visiting family.
	But yeah, so it's been a few weeks, and then I'll be working pretty much the rest of the week.
	This was like my only free day, so.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	And you were on the show, was it a month, month and a half ago?
	It was in July, I think.
	Okay.
	Any prospects in between?
	Prospects?
	Prospects, any guys?
	Sneaky links?
	What's up?
	I mean, I guess, like, there's someone that I work with that I like, like, but I don't know.
	I don't really want to be in a relationship.
	You know what I mean?
	It's just, like, it's too much, like, maintenance, you know.
	Like, you're too much maintenance?
	Just like, I don't know.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't think I'm ready for an official relationship.
	You know what I mean?
	Sure.
	Like, I kind of just want to do my own thing for now and just work and like live life.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Very much single.
	Very much single.
	Okay.
	What does very much single mean?
	As compared to single, you know?
	It means my options are very much open.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So how long have you been single for?
	A year.
	One year.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Almost three years.
	High school?
	Yeah, it was a high school relationship.
	All right.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Why?
	It was very toxic.
	Yeah, what did you do that was toxic?
	I guess he didn't really like me going out at all.
	I get the whole party scene and everything, but even if it was just to hang out with family or even my sister, I guess that was like a problem if I didn't choose him.
	Yeah.
	And then he was just very disrespectful.
	How was he disrespectful?
	I think he called me out my name like several times.
	Wait, he called you out by name?
	What do you mean?
	Like out my name.
	He would like I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say the words here, but like sex?
	No.
	Wait, he just called me out my name.
	Like he called me disrespectful.
	Oh, he insults you.
	Yeah, he insulted me.
	What was, I think you can probably say it.
	Be?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	Anything else?
	Yeah, you can say, yeah, you can say bitch.
	You can say bitch.
	That's fine.
	Yeah.
	Was that?
	Was that what he was calling you?
	Yeah, yeah.
	would he say it he'd just be like like pretend I'm you and pretend you're him say to me He'd just be like, you're acting like a bitch.
	Oh.
	Well, I'm doing beforehand.
	I guess, I mean, I don't think that I don't think you should say that to a girl, but like, it is a little different than like you're a bitch versus like you're acting like a bitch.
	It's still not good, but there's a bit of nuance there.
	So did he ever be like, you're a bitch?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Or was it like a listen, bitch?
	Okay.
	Listen, bitch.
	No.
	So, sorry, what was the original thing that you said?
	He said, you're acting like a bitch.
	Yeah.
	So were you acting like a bitch?
	Shit, I might have.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	So he was spin facts, basically.
	Not exactly.
	No, I can't even remember what the argument was about, but it was definitely.
	It was definitely like something he started, for sure.
	He apologized for it, though, so I guess we forgave him.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so you broke up with him?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And he didn't like that you were going out and partying.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, that's one.
	I guess that's one thing.
	Did he also not like how you were, like maybe how you dressed when you went out too?
	Yeah, he didn't like the way I.
	Okay, maybe that wasn't like a really an issue.
	It was more like the way I would record TikToks and stuff and upload them.
	Do you still have those videos up?
	Maybe we can pull them up.
	What's your TikTok?
	It's Scooby.
	Scooby?
	Scooby.
	Like the dog?
	Yeah.
	Scooby.
	Dot R-O-O.
	Scooby-Roo.
	Scooby-Roo?
	Yeah.
	That's it?
	And no, it's like 0-3, I believe.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Mason, are you?
	Can't find it.
	Austin Mason again.
	What's that?
	You called Austin Mason again.
	Do I keep calling Austin Mason?
	You've been calling him Mason.
	Oh, I don't know what's my wires are all like crossed up.
	I'm not sure what's going on.
	You know what?
	Let's just change Austin's name.
	Austin, do you want a nickname?
	We're going to call you Bartholomew.
	How's that?
	Does that work?
	Is that easier to remember than also?
	It is way easier for me to, and it takes longer to say it.
	Nah, my bad.
	My bad, Austin.
	I don't know.
	My wires are all crossed up.
	I can't find it.
	Is it like two Y's or like two.
	No, it's just one Y. Like Scooby S C zero.
	I mean, O O B Y period.
	R O O Zero Three.
	Hmm.
	I can't find it.
	Anyway, so in any case, you were posting kind of like what, dance TikToks or something?
	It was just me lip-singing, but I think while he mentioned like me wanting me using that as like trying to get attention.
	So, yeah.
	So you just basically, essentially, just had an issue with the, here, Mason, I'll send it in private chat.
	I found it.
	His new name is just Mason.
	Wait, what the fuck?
	Why do I keep, I think it's because it's on the screen.
	You're not even looking at.
	It's a hint for people to donate.
	It's just in your head.
	Wait, was I calling you Mason last episode?
	What?
	Why?
	Don't take it personally.
	Austin May.
	They kind of sound familiar.
	Sin.
	What?
	The Sin at the end.
	Sin?
	Austin?
	Mason?
	All right.
	We'll get that pulled up here.
	Speaking of which, guys, 50% of all fan funding from today's episode, Super Chats, TTS, Twitch subs, Streamlabs messages, etc., will go to Mason's Medical Expenses.
	We have Read at 100.
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	Also, guys, like the video while you're at it.
	Do you have the TikTok pulled up?
	All right, let's see.
	Let's scroll all the way down.
	Let's see what we got here.
	Okay.
	I mean, I don't see anything too bad.
	Well, maybe the...
	There's some red flags there.
	Is there one in specific where he was like, what the fuck?
	I honestly do not remember.
	Scroll all the way down.
	Let's see.
	How far does this go?
	How much do you?
	God.
	I have a lot, but it's going to go back into high school, so.
	I don't know if I want to see those, but scroll back up.
	Scroll up.
	What about this one?
	Scroll up, scroll up, scroll up.
	Wait, stop?
	The one in the red?
	Is this the one that he had an issue with?
	No.
	He was out of the picture by then?
	Was he?
	No, he was still in the picture.
	Film the picture.
	Yeah.
	Let's see why.
	And so he, so, okay, he had an issue with the going out, maybe how you dressed, and then also posting to TikTok.
	So he would come to you, he'd be like, hey, I'm not comfortable.
	And you were with him for three years, you said, right?
	Yes.
	How far into the relationship did he start, like one year in, two years in, towards the end?
	Like, I don't like the TikToks, don't like how you dress, don't like the partying.
	I think everything started literally the first year.
	First year.
	Yeah, like after the whole honeymoon stage, like six months into it, like everything changed.
	How many followers does she have on TikTok?
	Like a thousand?
	You don't have to.
	Nearly 10,000, I think it was.
	Yeah, it's just shy of 10,000.
	So he would come to you and what was his ask?
	Did he say, hey, can you make your TikTok private?
	Was that what he was asking?
	No, he never asked for anything.
	He would just like he'd send me my own TikToks because he made a rule where it was like anytime I uploaded to my Instagram or TikTok or anything like that, I had to like tell him.
	So when I would post, I'd be like, oh, I'm going to post a TikTok and he'd go on it and then send it to me and then be like, okay, like, why do you choose this audio?
	Or like, why are you looking like that?
	Basically, are you asking for attention?
	I see.
	I see.
	And did he ever ask you to take down any specific videos?
	No.
	Okay.
	But he was just more like, I don't like it.
	Yeah.
	And then the next day you'd post a TikTok?
	Yeah.
	So you were, I mean, there could certainly be a conversation over whether it's appropriate for him to be asking this, if it was controlling.
	But in any case, you did not.
	He would ask you to stop and you didn't stop.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	So this caused conflict in your relationship.
	Or he just took it like a bitch.
	I'd say it caused like a little bit of conflict.
	Like, it's because I shut it down.
	Shut what down?
	Like.
	Him?
	Like, after a while, I just, he noticed that I just did not care.
	I was just going to keep doing what I wanted to do.
	You didn't care that what?
	What?
	Like, how he felt?
	What did you not care about?
	How he felt?
	Like, how he felt about the videos.
	Well, at least you're admitting to it.
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	There's a Paris in Texas, not to be confused with Paris Hilton.
	Right.
	There's Melbourne, Florida, and Meborn, Australia, too.
	Meborn.
	May all Masons get well soon.
	My prayers with him and his fam.
	Hey, Doc Venably, appreciate it, man.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Really appreciate it.
	Yeah, there's also a Hollywood in Miami as well.
	That's what I was thinking about, the Hollywood in Miami.
	Doc, thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	And then how often were you going out partying?
	Maybe like every two weeks.
	And this was in high school.
	Were you going to college parties?
	no like out to i was just they were like they were like kickbacks and stuff like that So it's not high school parties, but like not college parties either.
	Okay, got it.
	And then do you think he was controlling or insecure?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Going around the table on this, do you think, so, okay, essentially the boyfriend didn't like her going out, didn't like how she dressed when she was going out, or even in general too?
	Like, didn't like how you dressed, maybe going to school or stuff like that?
	No, I don't think it was that.
	It was just when you were going out.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So didn't like her going out, didn't like how she dressed when she was going out, and then also didn't like some of the TikToks she posts.
	What do you guys think?
	Is this him just having boundaries or is this controlling and insecure starting with you?
	I think he's definitely insecure and maybe jealous that you get more attention than him.
	agreed okay insecure that he's she's getting more attention than him yeah Okay, what do you think?
	Yeah, I think it sounds like a really bad relationship where you cannot be yourself.
	So I think it's not good on his sides or for both of you, I guess.
	Yeah, girl, thank God you got out because that could have gone far south.
	Like, I don't think it's normal to tell people what to do.
	And if you don't like what they're doing, they just don't be with them, you know?
	Erroneous!
	Erroneous!
	Wait.
	Amen.
	Oh.
	What was that?
	Oh, okay, hold on.
	Hide stream yard in center.
	No sources, sources.
	Sources tab.
	Just hide it.
	The eyeball.
	Okay, so now, sorry, guys.
	Just minimize OBS really quick so I can see what's going on.
	Okay, the fucking ad block updating fucking piece of shit.
	Not you, Austin, the fucking ad block.
	Just X out of it.
	And then, oh, you can exile the life, the YouTube thing?
	Yeah, X out of that.
	And then F11.
	Sorry, guys.
	Fucking Adblock decided to update midstream.
	Our bad.
	It's the far right, far right, far right.
	There you go.
	Okay, sorry, guys.
	Wait, it could have gone a lot worse.
	Hell yeah.
	Was he abusive?
	No.
	So they were dating for three years, and it didn't go far worse.
	He just had boundaries.
	Been there.
	Oh, so it would have manifested.
	Would have manifested in year four, is that what you're saying?
	I think it gets worse and worse.
	Like you say, as soon as the honeymoon stage is over, they try to.
	Honeymoon.
	They were dating for three years.
	That's what she called it.
	Wait, how long does that happen?
	That's a honeymoon phase?
	That's like three months.
	Maybe.
	Three months, right?
	Like the first year.
	You're having an eating for a year.
	Anyways, once that is over, I think these types of people, they will try to grab control.
	What do you mean, these types of people, though?
	What's wrong with not wanting to be able to do that?
	What do you mean, these people?
	These people as in...
	What do you mean, new people?
	People who don't agree on what you are doing and want to control it instead of stepping away.
	Okay.
	Would you prefer a man who has no boundaries or some boundaries?
	This is nothing to do with boundaries, I think.
	The question was, would you prefer a man who has no boundaries or some boundaries?
	As in a relationship for me personally?
	Yep.
	Depends what kind of boundaries I guess.
	So no boundaries or some boundaries?
	I think boundaries.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if we have anything.
	I don't think boundaries would be acceptable.
	Well, you're a partner for life, right?
	So then you have to talk about, okay, I do this.
	Do you agree on that?
	Can you live with that?
	And the other way around as well.
	Okay, well, so you're painting this guy as somebody, I don't know the guy, but you're painting him as somebody who could potentially be some sort of danger to her when he's simply asking her not to do TikToks, which are unnecessary.
	You don't need to be doing TikToks.
	It's not an important thing.
	Yeah, but it's not.
	Why wouldn't you just try and find middle ground?
	Yeah, you have to find middle ground.
	But people are saying that she was good to get out of the relationship and that he could have been dangerous.
	That seems like bad advice.
	I think the good advice would be maybe to have the conversation with the guy and think, maybe put yourself in his shoes and think, why doesn't he like me doing this?
	Sorry, but you should not be with someone who calls you a bitch.
	That's just so disrespectful, at least.
	But that's not what we're talking about.
	We're talking about the TikToks for now.
	So don't you think that it would be better to have the conversation and put yourself in his shoes?
	You shouldn't have a conversation with someone who calls you a bitch.
	But we're talking about TikTok specifically now.
	Put the bitch aside.
	Put the bitch stuff aside.
	Just don't TikTok now.
	So The TikTok stuff to me seems so unimportant that if you tell your girlfriend, hey, listen, I can kind of see your titties on the TikTok and you're mumbling all of these sexual songs, there's no real need to be doing it.
	I would expect her to say, yeah, good idea.
	Don't you think that's fair?
	I would expect her.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't agree on that.
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	Yeah, guys, you are just insecure and your girlfriend wants to dress like a whore for attention.
	JK, run from haws.
	Get well, Mason.
	All right, Jim, thank you for the TTS man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Did you have more?
	Yeah, I mean, I just think that it's like the most basic of boundaries for me would be don't put your body on the internet and don't be mumbling all these sexual songs.
	There's no need to do it.
	If you're with me, then you shouldn't need that attention.
	It's not an important thing to be on TikTok.
	I wouldn't date someone who's posting weird TikTok videos anyway.
	Exactly, so why would you have a conversation?
	But I'm saying if hypothetically, we're speaking out hypothetically, if we were and she started posting all these TikTok videos, it would be a conversation where you'd say, hey, that's not okay with me.
	And don't you think that's a reasonable request?
	A what?
	A reasonable request?
	You can talk about it, sure, but as soon as they start getting disrespectful and not accepting the way you do things, like she clearly wants to be on TikTok and all good for you, but don't be with a guy that just doesn't accept that because that's just not going to work.
	Girls are horrible friends to each other.
	I mean, why is it important to be on TikTok though, over a relationship?
	If you like the guy, if you value your relationship, why would it be important to be on TikTok?
	Dressing like a girl.
	I don't know, it could be...
	Whoa.
	Can you say that on a podcast?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why?
	I think if it's, I don't know what you do on there.
	Maybe she earns money on there.
	Maybe she likes it.
	We saw enough.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't think I can change your mind with whatever I'm saying, but I just think that it's good you got away because it could have gone worse.
	I've seen it myself.
	What would indicate to you that that would go worse?
	Well, the jealousy and clearly being disrespectful as well.
	I mean, if you're dating and somebody is just not taking into account your boundaries whatsoever, I'd be kind of pissed off too.
	Yeah, but then don't be together.
	I know, I wouldn't be, but I'm saying if that was the situation, that's why we're speaking in hypotheticals here.
	Don't you think you'd be pissed off if they were doing something, say, flirting with girls all the time when you went out in public and you said, hey, I really don't like that, and they just keep doing it.
	Would you say, hey, listen, bitch?
	No, I would not say that at all.
	No.
	I would just not agree with it and then talk about it.
	And if it doesn't work, then, you know, you have different priorities in life, I guess.
	So then it just doesn't work.
	So it's no use.
	Just step away and look for someone else.
	Yep, just step away.
	Yeah.
	Why the jump, though, to it could have gone way worse because he doesn't want his girlfriend to post provocative photos or dress provocatively or go to parties.
	Doesn't that seem like a pretty reasonable boundary for a relationship-minded man?
	I don't know.
	I think it depends on how far it goes.
	To me, like when I see this, it's just she's just having fun.
	Sorry, I know this is about you, but you know, that's what I've seen.
	And it shouldn't be a problem at all.
	But when he's trying to control her and telling her, you shouldn't post this, I don't like it when you wear this, and then calling her a bitch, that just to me screams like, get out.
	That's not normal.
	No.
	No, it's super normal.
	Yeah, should you just be able to do whatever you want all the time with no consequences?
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	What about if you're flirting with the people all the time?
	Is that a boundary that he could set?
	How do you say?
	If you're flirting with people, if you guys go out and you're at the bar flirting with other guys, is that a boundary that he can set?
	Yeah, it depends if you have an open relationship and if you're fine with that, the both of you.
	What about if you go out to the bar and you're dressed really skimpily and guys are looking at your tits all the time?
	Do you think that that's something that he could say, hey, listen, I don't like when you dress so provocatively?
	Yeah, you can.
	Okay, then why can't he do it on TikTok?
	Because it's kind of different, I think.
	It's actually probably worse.
	You've got like hundreds of thousands of guys oogling over our breasts.
	Yeah, but is that really a problem though?
	I think if you want to post these types of TikToks because you want to dance and have fun and your boyfriend doesn't agree with that, well then.
	So he should just accept that you can do whatever you want all the time with no consequences.
	Oh no, it works both ways, for sure.
	What do you mean?
	We should all be able to do whatever we want all the time with no consequences?
	No, you have to have good communication and set boundaries and sort of produce.
	Who do you think was communicating better out of those two?
	Who's communicating with you?
	Who do you think was a better communicator?
	A better?
	I don't know.
	I don't know them.
	Did it look like one person had boundaries and one person wasn't respecting the boundaries?
	I don't know.
	I don't know the situation.
	We just heard it.
	Yeah, I'm just saying on my opinion on what I just heard.
	But I can't go deep into it because I have no idea what the situation really was, what kind of person, how much they talked, all that stuff.
	Okay, cool.
	You mentioned controlling, right?
	Like a guy controlling a woman, right?
	Yeah.
	Do you think it's an unreasonable standard for a guy to not want his girlfriend to post revealing photos or to go out to parties, bars, clubs, or to wear, I suppose, revealing clothes?
	Do you think that's controlling behavior or is that a reasonable boundary?
	It's a boundary, definitely, unless you're with someone who likes to do these things and you try to change it because that's just not going to work.
	It's toxic.
	Well, I mean, don't we all kind of, isn't that the nature of relationships?
	Like, okay, you're single, you're operating one way, now you're in a relationship, you're no longer operating in the way you used to operate.
	So conduct that would be acceptable when you're single is no longer acceptable when you're in a relationship.
	Case in point, sleeping with multiple people at the same time.
	This is, well, it's not cheating if you're single to sleep with multiple people at the same time.
	But in a relationship, this would be considered cheating.
	And so, well, what other kind of behavior could be considered undesirable or cheating in a relationship that might not be when you're single?
	How do you mean?
	What's cheating when you're in a relationship?
	So for example, like when it comes to posting more revealing photos, prior to dating, a man might not have a problem with her engaging in what he considered single behavior.
	But once they started dating, he wanted her to act in a way that he thought was consistent and commensurate with being in a relationship.
	And I mean, literally all boundaries are a form of control.
	That's what the boundary is, drawing lines around behaviors that you don't want your partner to engage in.
	So how about this?
	Or I think I asked a question that I wanted to open up to the panel, but controlling or reasonable boundary?
	For the situation?
	Yeah, so not wanting to post revealing photos, not dressing, revealing, and I guess, what was the other one?
	Not going out to bars or clubs?
	I feel like it's definitely reasonable to have boundaries.
	Are those specific boundaries, are they reasonable from the guy's perspective?
	Or do you feel like generally they're controlling?
	Well, I feel like in a relationship you should have the freedom to do whatever you want within like having boundaries.
	What do you mean doing whatever you want within having boundaries?
	Like you should feel like you can be yourself.
	But how can you do whatever you want if you have boundaries?
	Be yourself.
	Well, everyone should have boundaries.
	But those two things are.
	But you shouldn't date someone that you want to change.
	And she's probably posting the same videos before they were dating.
	So if you see that, you probably shouldn't.
	Wait, they say that.
	But hold on, you say women shouldn't date people or you shouldn't date people you want to change.
	Isn't that like the genesis of what women do to every single man?
	That they date someone who's like, I can fix him.
	I can fix him.
	He will change.
	But that doesn't matter.
	Isn't that what women do with every guy they date?
	Don't you guys like a project?
	No, I'm hard of doing work.
	Right, but you did it in your past, right?
	Going around the table, though.
	Reasonable boundary or controlling insecure.
	I do have to say, I wonder how, did you do the TikToks before you started dating and all of that?
	or was it something you started doing when you were dating?
	Because I think that might be, yeah, it's controlling if you started, if you were already doing that and he liked you when you were doing that.
	And then when you started dating after a year, it became a problem, even though you've been doing that all along.
	So they were together for three, so you would have started when you were dating, right?
	Started doing the TikToks?
	I had already started before.
	Before.
	Yeah, even when we were talking or whatever.
	Were you dating other guys before you started dating him?
	No.
	Were you talking to other guys ever before you started dating him?
	I talked to like one guy before him.
	Did you stop doing that when you started dating him?
	Did I what?
	Did you stop doing that when you started dating him?
	Did you stop talking to other guys?
	Yes.
	Would that be a boundary?
	Yes.
	So why does it matter if they're doing it before?
	Isn't it the most important that the boundaries match in a relationship?
	What do you mean the boundaries match?
	Match.
	Like, for example, I'm in a relationship for four years, so I'm no longer talking to other guys.
	I'm no longer kissing other guys or sleeping with them, only with my boyfriend.
	That's a boundary that he wants, and I respect that.
	It's a good match.
	But if my boyfriend would say, I don't want you to be a Twitch streamer anymore, then that's my work, that's my hobby, that's my passion.
	Then it wouldn't match.
	Then the relationship would just not work.
	So I think you have to do it.
	You play games on Twitch, yes?
	Do you do it with your boobs out?
	No.
	I mean, it depends what you call boobs out, I guess.
	I mean, can I see your clients?
	I wear this dress also on Twitch.
	Do you have a shirt?
	Do you have a lot of men in the chat sort of?
	Oh, yeah, but most of them also know my boyfriend because we have meetups and stuff like that.
	I mean, I don't really know anything about Twitch gaming.
	I've never been on Twitch myself, so I don't really know how that works.
	But sure, if it's your work and everything, then as long as it's not like a thirst trap.
	But this is like a thirst trap, what we're talking about here.
	And that should be off limits when you're in a relationship.
	It depends, because it's about the boundaries matching.
	I mean, there's also girls with OnlyFans that have boyfriends that are cool to do.
	So when you say the boundaries match, does that mean that my boundaries have to be commensurate with what she thinks she can do?
	I mean, you should talk about it.
	But like, you have to say.
	What if I have a boundary that she doesn't think is reasonable?
	Then I'm not sure if it's a great fit for the relationship.
	And of course, sometimes you have to conflict with that.
	I think that we can all agree that if you're dating a girl who won't stop doing the TikToks, then you should break up.
	Your boyfriend should have broken up with you the first conversation if you the next day went and posted another TikTok.
	Because it doesn't match.
	100%.
	He should have broken up with you.
	But We're arguing about the merit of the boundary and whether it's a reasonable problem.
	It is completely fine to compensate and, for example, say, well, okay, I really like doing these TikToks, but you don't like it.
	I really like you.
	I will stop doing them.
	But what do you think your boyfriend would say if you tomorrow started posting TikToks of you with your showing some TD and mumbling some Chris Brown?
	He would probably be very worried.
	But what do you think you would honestly think if you started if you were to do that?
	He would be worried because that's not something I would do because I don't like that.
	Because he would be, he knows me for four years.
	And do you think that it doesn't really match your character to be doing that sort of content?
	No, no, I don't think so, no.
	Okay.
	Well, do you think that would be a reasonable boundary if he said, hey, listen, I don't want you doing those videos?
	I mean, it's hypothetical.
	I don't know because I can't imagine.
	I'm saying that, but put yourself in the hypothetical for a second.
	Do you think that that would be a reasonable boundary?
	I mean, I do cosplays as well, so I guess maybe if I would have one that has more boobs out and he would say, hey, I don't feel comfortable with that.
	I might not wear that cosplay anymore.
	But if I really love the cosplay, then maybe I will keep wearing it.
	I don't know.
	I think that I can't think of a point of doing TikToks or anything like that, cosplay, whatever, and sexualizing yourself that isn't for male attention.
	Oh, for cosplaying.
	For whatever.
	For whatever the reason that for your Twitch streaming, I mean, how much of your audience is male?
	I don't know.
	89%, 70%.
	Probably more than that, I'd say, because it's gaming.
	Oh, no, there's a lot of girls in gaming as well.
	Is there?
	Yeah.
	I guess I've got a lot of games.
	I am a girl in gaming, for example.
	Yeah.
	No, I have a lot of girls in communities and mothers, and it's very community-based.
	Cool.
	Well, I've not seen your Twitching, but yeah, I'm sure it's very wholesome with the cosplay.
	Selena, what do you think?
	Reasonable boundary or controlling and secure?
	I mean, if it was to the point where she felt she had to break up, like it was obviously on his end.
	Like there should be some compromise just because, especially if she was already making the videos before they were dating, why all of a sudden would it be an issue for him?
	And like, why would he date her if it was such a big problem for her?
	Because they're dating.
	Because he never.
	You do things differently when you're in a relationship as to how you act when you're single.
	Right, but in that context, he didn't break up with her over it.
	No, he should have.
	Right, so it's kind of on him.
	If it's that big of a deal, then just don't date that person for him.
	Agreed.
	Definitely, definitely should have broken up with them with her.
	If it was an issue for him, yeah, you know, I mean.
	So let's finish up the relationship stats really quick.
	But going back to you really quick, you said you're very much single.
	When's the last time you were on a date?
	Maybe like two months ago.
	Two months ago?
	When's the last time you hung out with a guy?
	Maybe like two months ago.
	Okay, same thing.
	Okay.
	And last time you hooked up with a guy?
	Yesterday?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	I was after a whole day.
	Not sure.
	Two months ago?
	Maybe like.
	No.
	Sooner?
	No, no, no, no.
	Before that.
	Oh, longer ago.
	Yeah, like a couple months ago.
	Okay, got it.
	Maddie, what about you?
	Relationship status.
	I'm happily in a relationship, uh, my current...
	It doesn't matter what you think!
	And it's been a little over two years.
	Jake?
	Yep, single since about 2021, only dating seriously.
	So not, I think they were saying balking on the show last time, despite the rampant rumors on here.
	None of that going on, not on the streets.
	Oh, I'm just single.
	Been single for like a year.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	Like two years.
	Two years.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	All right, that's everybody's relationship status.
	We have a chat here coming from Terminal Lanced.
	41 states have a city town named Springfield.
	Damn, that's a lot.
	Is there Springfield, California?
	Ladies.
	Definitely not a high.
	By the way, what's going on in Springfield?
	They're eating the dogs.
	They're eating the dogs.
	They're eating the cats.
	I don't know.
	I can't do it.
	Can you do it?
	They're eating the dogs.
	The dogs.
	Ladies, here, let me pull it up.
	Ladies, if you get to keep your.
	Wait, did they?
	What the hell?
	Hold on.
	There we go.
	Ladies, if you get to keep your Instagram or TikTok, then your guy gets to keep his dating apps, profiles, hashtag equality.
	Do you guys agree?
	Is this a fair trade-off?
	You get to keep your Instagram.
	He gets to stay on the dating apps.
	Is it fair?
	Going around the table starting with the money.
	Definitely not.
	Definitely not.
	You already have the best thing there is.
	But you already have the best thing.
	So why do you need attention on social media?
	I don't.
	No, but I'm saying in the hypothetical world that we're in right now, if you're already dating somebody, why would you need to be getting this attention on social media?
	You don't at all.
	So why can't he keep his apps then?
	Why does he want attention?
	Why do you want attention?
	How about we both just give each other attention and not have any of the apps?
	Yeah.
	Fantastic.
	Wait, then.
	You know what I think would actually be kind of a fair trade, sort of fair trade-off, but still not even really.
	Or maybe it's fair.
	So the men, they get to keep their dating apps.
	They can't send a message, though.
	They can't respond, but they can keep their profile active on the dating app.
	I think that that's actually a really kind of close to a one-to-one comparison of women keeping their Instagram.
	Are they going on the dating?
	I was going to say, like, a lot of people just post pictures of the ocean or like not everybody's just.
	Well, should we need to pull up Yael's?
	Should we pay?
	Private.
	Wait, it's private?
	It is?
	Yeah.
	It wasn't before.
	Wait, is it?
	Really?
	I think so, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Well, in any case, in any case, I think the difference is, though, and I think what the Super Chatter is trying to get at, is that, so men and women, we flirt very differently.
	So, for example, a guy will approach you at a bar or club.
	He'll approach 10 women in a night.
	If you guys go to a bar or a club, you're not going to go approach 10 dudes.
	You'll go to the bar.
	Perhaps you'll put yourself in a kind of a position to be approached.
	You'll go there, dressed really nice, looking sexy, whatever.
	And maybe you'll make eye contact with a guy.
	That's the extent of it.
	In the hopes of eliciting them to come talk to you.
	So when you go out to the bars, your intention is not, I'm going to go approach men.
	Your intention is, whether conscious or unconscious, I'm going to make myself available for men to come talk to me.
	And similarly, when it comes to Instagram, you're not going to like, you might occasionally slide into a DM here or there, like an A-list celebrity.
	You'll shoot your shot with like the top-tier dudes, whereas guys will shoot their shot with anything.
	You'll post a revealing photo.
	Oh, I hope a guy or some guys or this particular guy notices me, reacts to this.
	This elicits him to then contact me, or men in general to contact you.
	So going back to how men and women flirt very differently, when men enter into a relationship with any of you guys, there's an expectation on his part, okay, the way that you flirt as a man, you need to stop that once we're in a relationship.
	So the way men flirt, we take initiative, we approach you, we'll slide into the DMs, et cetera.
	There's an expectation that that stops and ceases when we're in a relationship.
	But the ways in which that you conduct yourself when you're single doesn't cease once you're in a relationship.
	It continues when you're in a relationship.
	You continue going to bars, you continue going to parties, and you continue making yourself available on social media platforms.
	You continue posting photos, oftentimes revealing photos on social media.
	And this is the way that you flirt online.
	That's a very good point.
	So there's an expectation on men.
	It's a very one-directional expectation.
	We have to stop the way we flirt.
	But you guys, even in a relationship, even in the marriage, you don't have to stop the ways that you make yourselves available to men.
	And it's very unfair.
	And so the soup chat that came in, the Streamlabs donation, I agree with equality.
	Maybe Jake does too.
	If we got to stop approaching women, you guys have to stop making yourselves available in single environments or on social media.
	You can still have an Instagram.
	Maybe you could private it.
	Maybe you stop posting kind of more revealing photos.
	But definitely no bars, clubs, parties.
	That's got to be a deal breaker for men.
	Can you go together?
	Well, I suppose you could, but I advise against it.
	But then again, I'm kind of more of a homebody.
	But I don't go to bars or clubs.
	So I wouldn't even want to date a girl who's like inclined to do that even when she's single.
	Because that's just, that would be such a mismatch of, is it a hobby to go to a bar?
	I don't know if it's a mismatch of a bunch of people.
	That's how you spend your free time.
	What's that?
	That's how you like to spend your free time.
	Oh, how do I like to spend my free time?
	Well, you want to find someone that you have, like, the same free time schedule with.
	Yeah, I just, since I don't go to these types of venues, like, I don't think I would.
	If it's, like, hobby bar hopping, if it's, like, they've got, like, a friend's birthday and they're going out and seeing their friends, I wouldn't mind about that.
	But if there's somebody who's like a rampant bar or club goer, then yeah, you wouldn't want to date somebody like that.
	It's constantly in the belly of the beast.
	But yeah, so I just don't think I see myself dating a girl who even goes out to bars and clubs and parties really to begin with.
	But like Jake said, if it's occasional thing, I don't think I would really mind.
	But like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, every single day of the week, yeah, that's probably a problem.
	So, yeah.
	But fair proposition, we have to stop flirting.
	We have to stop initiating.
	You guys got to stop going to environments where you can anticipate you're going to get this kind of male attention.
	Fair?
	Fair proposition.
	Technically everywhere, then I've been hit on in a grocery store.
	I've actually got a no-grocery store rule with a goddamn.
	So that's a fair, I suppose that's a fair argument.
	So I would not have a boundary like, oh, you're not allowed to go out in public ever.
	You're not allowed to go to the grocery store.
	But I do acknowledge that as a woman, you can be approached anywhere.
	It could be the grocery store.
	It could be you're just out and about shopping, whatever.
	I wouldn't attempt to put any controls on that because that's just you moving about your day through life.
	The difference is though, is the venues that you choose to go to.
	For example, while I acknowledge that men might approach you in a grocery store, it's far less common that at a party club or nightclub, then add on to that the involvement of alcohol.
	Most people don't go to Trader Joe's to get turned up, turnt up.
	I'm sorry, I'm saying.
	I know what you mean.
	They don't go to Trader Joe's to get drunk.
	I don't think in the history of Trader Joe's, a woman's ever been finger-banged like ever.
	But if you go to a nightclub or a bar, chicks begin, bro, people are hooking up, making out, they're getting finger-banged, they're fucking 30 minutes later.
	Okay, it happens.
	Look, my bars are different.
	I went, I saw, I, Santa Barbara, number one, UCSB, number one party school in the U.S.
	The amount when I, and I was never a big partier, never really big drinker, but I went to parties here and there and stuff.
	The amount of fuckery that I saw, like people fucking within 30 minutes of meeting, like some people meeting right by the beach.
	Okay, boom, me to the party, let's go fuck at the beach 30 minutes later, let's go fuck in the bathroom, laundry room, whatever.
	I've seen it.
	I've seen people fucking in the middle of parties.
	And it wasn't a sex party.
	They just started fucking.
	It was like a normal college party and they're getting finger blasted.
	I think there's some things being in Europe.
	I've been to the Netherlands three times.
	And they have fraternities.
	Hold on.
	They have fraternities in the Netherlands, fraternity sororities.
	I went to a fraternity party.
	Shit goes down in the Dutch frat party.
	And I've been to one of those festivals as well.
	I've been to Lowlands Festival.
	I know.
	It happens a lot.
	But I want to agree with you to some extent.
	I think I have a friend when we used to go out together and she wouldn't go home with a man.
	She would say, oh, my evening sucked and it really was disappointing.
	And I would be like, oh, but we had a great evening because we're just, you know, having fun going out.
	So I think for those girls who really see partying as the way to be picked up and who hook up with people and go to the beach in 30 minutes, yes, that's a thing.
	But I still go out with my best friends every now and then.
	But if guys approach me, I say, oh, I'm taken by.
	Sure.
	I'm just having fun with my friend.
	So I think.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, look, going back to this whole Trader Joe's example.
	So nightclubs, bars, parties, these are very, very specific social gathering type environments where there's an expectation as the woman going in, like there's a high likelihood that you're going to get approached.
	And so I just think when it comes to the respect of your partner, you just would opt to not go to these types of people.
	I really like live music, and I often go to bars with live music, and you don't have that in your home.
	Do you like live music more than your boyfriend?
	No, but my boyfriend is fine with that.
	And I don't pick up guys when I'm in a bar.
	Yeah, I mean, look, if he has no issues with it, and you're certainly free to do it, I just think it's a perfectly reasonable, it's a perfect, excuse me, perfectly reasonable standard and boundary for men to have, especially men who are relationship-minded.
	Look, a guy who just wants to fuck you probably doesn't give a fuck.
	So a guy who's actually who cares about you, who wants you to be safe, who doesn't want to see, because how many times do we see stories of like, you know, some guy's going to grab your ass or, you know, you get, you know, something gets dropped in your drink.
	Like guys view the world through like a sort of a bit of a different lens sometimes.
	And we're like looking at it from like a security safety perspective.
	And we don't want our girlfriend to be put in a potentially vulnerable situation where not her fault, but we can't control for what some drunk douchebag is going to do.
	Who knows, there could be some safety concern.
	And we don't want to be in a position where your safety is at risk.
	And if like as women you want men to be protectors, like this is within the purview of us trying to like look out for you.
	And you're safe.
	Like that is really nice.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, I luckily haven't been in moments that I'm in a bar and people do things that I don't feel safe with.
	Well, I don't know if Santa Barbara's different.
	And it's weird because Santa Barbara is like a really nice area, high cost of living, relatively safe.
	But like every single time when I, again, never was a big partier, but I'd occasionally like go out with a friend who and I would maybe have one drink at a bar or nightclub or whatever.
	Certainly when I was younger, I haven't been out in years, but when I was a bit younger, I did.
	Every single time I went out, there was always violence, always saw a fight, always saw something going on.
	Now this is typically more so a concern as a man because you're not some random guy's not gonna start a fight with you.
	But every, like when it comes to safety concerns, security concerns, every single time I've been out, there's always tension.
	There's always violence in the air.
	I always see a fight, somebody gets knocked out, brain damage, injury, paramedics, firefighters, police, every single time I've been out.
	I've never not gone out and not seen something go down every single time.
	True.
	But I go to rock and metal bars and it happens less.
	I guess.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Rock and metal music.
	They're all like mosh pitting and stuff like that.
	Yeah, they're all like big friendly bears.
	They're just very cozy people.
	I'm talking about the house music.
	Do you have the house music?
	Yeah, I don't really go there.
	Europeans love those parties.
	And that's where a lot more of the...
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's a lot of just like sex, drugs, and rock and roll happening in those places.
	Yeah.
	Oh, the other thing is, well, you might say, okay, well, go with your girlfriend.
	But like, that is, I think that's a terrible idea.
	And I'll know, Jake, maybe you've had experiences like this.
	Like, if you're with the wrong girl, like, and she's been drinking, she's going to get you into a fight.
	Potentially.
	That's how the fights normally start.
	That's a big, I mean, it's a big cause of it.
	And like, the thing is, if like some drunk guy is like hassling you, you're going to like look to your boyfriend to intervene on your behalf.
	And then there's been so many instances of, it's not always the girl's fault, but like sometimes the girl will be intoxicated, like mouth off to some dude, and then that dude gets aggro, and he's not going to target the girl.
	He's going to target the guy that she's with.
	Then it could break out into a fight.
	He's going to get sparked and then your boyfriend's going to get knocked out and then you're going to dump him because you can't see your boyfriend in a vulnerable position.
	Your boyfriend got knocked out.
	You're going to dump him within three weeks and then he has brain damage.
	So guys, don't go out with your girlfriend to bars and clubs because it's just not good.
	But is it really like that here?
	Like it's welcome to America.
	Yeah, we were supposed to go out, but I'm kind of scared now, honestly.
	It's a very different Scene in America than it is in Europe, for sure.
	So there's always fights.
	I think basically calories.
	I can't say I've been out in America too many times, but you can tell by the atmosphere and everything.
	It's a lot more violent.
	England is terrible.
	England's terrible.
	But places like Holland and Germany, they genuinely tend to really go out for music and they have a better relationship with alcohol and drugs.
	They take a lot of drugs though over there.
	Right.
	In any case, in any case, look, I think going back to the original thing, though, I think, look, I think if you guys don't want to give up bars, clubs, partying, you know, keeping your Instagram public, posting revealing stuff, maybe it's fair for the guys to keep their Tinderhinge, Bumble Christian, Mingo Farmers only, Grinder, even.
	And keep it on.
	We won't send a message, but we will accrue, we will continue to accrue matches and maybe some of the girls message us first.
	And we just keep accruing it, but we won't message any of them.
	We won't respond until we take a break.
	That's not my husband, then.
	Yeah, no.
	So, okay, that's not your husband.
	But then, what if the guy turns around and says, well, you post revealing photos on Instagram, you're not wifey material.
	That's fine.
	That's not.
	Oh, you're fine with that.
	That's not my soulmate.
	So your soulmate has to accept you going to raves and parties and bars and clubs and posting revealing photos.
	Well, if they go with me.
	What if they don't?
	Well, then we probably wouldn't be together.
	Or I would just, I mean, I like to stay at home if I don't go to a festival.
	They have to accept that.
	So this is a cyclical thing.
	You said before that you have high standards, right?
	So high standards would suggest that you're looking for a pretty capable guy, good looking, he's probably tall, and these sorts of guys have a lot of options.
	And they just won't put up with this.
	So it's this cyclical thing that girls enter into and they say, I need this, this, this, this, and this, and I've got this laundry list of things that I need.
	But I'm not willing to take these photos down.
	I'm not willing to compromise with you at all.
	And then the guys that you will attract, if you do those things, you won't respect.
	I'd be willing to compromise if they were the right person for me.
	You just said that, and you said that you wouldn't take the photos down and you wouldn't.
	I didn't say that.
	Isn't that just what happened?
	Did I hear wrong?
	You said they were willing to.
	I think about going out.
	You said your soulmate would.
	I think she would take photos down.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I said I would make a compromise.
	Well, it would depend on the photos.
	Here's the compromise.
	Like, okay, there's a different thing.
	Here's the compromise.
	Okay, role play here.
	Hi, I'm your boyfriend.
	Good to meet you.
	Okay, you need to make your Instagram private, and you've got to take all this shit down.
	No, you can archive.
	Maybe archive is that.
	There's a compromise.
	You can archive.
	No, archive suggests that we're going to break up.
	That's a fair point.
	You know what?
	You're allowed to have a MySpace account.
	But I have to choose your top friends and your favorite song.
	You don't know what MySpace is?
	Wasn't that like a bad person?
	That's a bit before your time, man.
	Gen Z. Damn, you know what's crazy?
	Gen Z thinks like, like, looks at MySpace the same way that we look at a rotary phone.
	That's crazy.
	Was MySpace pre-Facebook or was that before MySpace?
	Yeah, I remember the exact time when Facebook started to take over MySpace.
	And I was like, but I can't have top friends in Facebook.
	Massive bummer.
	Anyways.
	Anyways, damn.
	We're boomers in there.
	MySpace was the best.
	W MySpace.
	Well, W MySpace.
	I wonder if anybody got, you know, how people use Instagram as a dating app?
	Like, they get it in on Instagram, sending DMs.
	I wonder if some dude was fucking killing it on MySpace.
	Yeah, dude, for sure.
	I had a friend who was in a few different girls' top friends, and I was like, player.
	Top friends.
	He's killing.
	He's out of here.
	And that's when you could like have you, your whole profile could be like customized, like HDMI song.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That was the best.
	The MySpace.
	Profile songs.
	I used to do some simpy songs when I was younger.
	Yeah.
	I wish I could say I was killing it on MySpace, but that was like high school.
	Not killing it on MySpace.
	So how do you guys pick up girls?
	What's your mainly MySpace?
	Oh, yeah, MySpace.
	What's your game?
	Grindr.
	I go on Grindr.
	Apparently, we had a girl.
	No, I'm kidding, but we had a girl last week who she met a guy on Grinder.
	What?
	Remember?
	Or you weren't here?
	Oh, you weren't here.
	It is a gay dating app, but.
	Sounds like when they're in the middle of the day.
	Anyways, but I'm just disregard the Grindr comment.
	I'm not on dating apps, so I let girls slide into the DMs back in the day.
	Honestly, you like to be hit on.
	Purely cold approach.
	Yeah, I'm in my sassy man era.
	Sassy man era.
	Drizzle drizzle.
	The girls have to do all the work.
	Yeah, I can't stand the dating apps.
	It's mainly just cold approach.
	Just on the streets.
	Twitter Joe's.
	Oh, on the streets.
	You are on the streets.
	Cold approaching, though, in a gentlemanly way, but libraries, cafes, these sorts of places.
	What were we talking about?
	Do we have any pushback from any more pushback from anybody on the whole controlling thing?
	I don't know.
	Oh, I was going to ask, do you think a question for you?
	Because you mentioned controlling.
	Would you.
	Your longest relationship was six years, you said?
	Yeah.
	Let's just, like, future boyfriends or whatever.
	Would you have an issue if he was paying for another girl's only fans?
	That's a good question.
	Never thought about that.
	I don't think I mind.
	No.
	You wouldn't mind?
	As long as I don't meet up.
	He was like messaging.
	No, he's just like chatting with them.
	Yeah, I don't mind.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	But you asked the wrong person, like, I'm super open about that kind of stuff.
	Are you Paulie?
	No.
	Do you have open relationships?
	No.
	Have you ever had in the past, yeah?
	How open was the open relationship?
	As open as it can get, I guess.
	Who were you monogamous first?
	Like, did it start monogamous, then you opened it up, or was it always open?
	Yeah.
	The other one who opened it up?
	No, together.
	Wait, mutual?
	Someone's got a girl.
	Yeah, we talked about it, and I was like, eh, maybe that's a good idea.
	You talked about it.
	Who started the combo?
	He did.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then you were like, hell yeah.
	No, I was like, oh, that's interesting.
	Well, I never tried.
	Maybe you're not going to be able to do that.
	You were getting with other guys?
	Yeah.
	Was this your six-year relationship?
	No, that was just something like in between.
	How long was that relationship?
	Like one and a half years.
	So I don't really count it.
	While you were seeing him, how many other guys did you see?
	I don't know.
	I don't take count of that.
	Like 10, 20?
	I don't know.
	Maybe 10?
	I don't know.
	I think so.
	How many girls did he see?
	Like, would you guys talk about it, kind of?
	No, no, we wouldn't really talk about it, but I did know two girls that he was with.
	So I do know of two, but I think it's more probably around five.
	So you put in more work than he did?
	More work?
	More work.
	I guess that's an American saying.
	You got with more guys than he got with girls.
	Yeah.
	So let's just say it would be like five and ten.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, going back to the question, would you be okay with your boyfriend subscribing to Girls OnlyFans while we open up to the panel?
	What do you think?
	No.
	Not okay with it?
	No.
	But he's just being himself.
	Your words.
	I would not date someone that does that.
	Those were your words, though.
	You're like, well, when it comes to going to bars, clubs, parties, whatever.
	Yeah, but I wouldn't date someone else.
	You got to be yourself.
	Being yourself.
	to someone else.
	Subscribe to well you don't have an OF. No.
	No, no.
	Yeah.
	What would be wrong, though?
	That's very controlling and insecure of you.
	No, I'm not going to change him.
	I'm just not going to date someone that is subscribed to someone else's channel.
	But you should let him be himself.
	Why you can't?
	But not my boyfriend.
	Okay, so let's say you are dating a guy and he wasn't doing that, but then you found out he was doing that a year into the relationship.
	You break up with him?
	Or do you say, stop that, or I'm going to break up with you?
	It would depend on the situation.
	How much I really like him.
	You like him as much as you anticipate liking.
	Like would I marry him?
	He's the best-looking guy you've ever met.
	No, let's not be.
	I feel like it's just got him.
	He's a person.
	Look, it's the guy that you're going to end up with.
	Doesn't sound like it.
	Well, so it's, here's the thing.
	When I say it's the guy you're going to end up with, a lot of girls are not going to get the perfect man.
	You're not going to get the perfect guy.
	You're going to have to settle on certain things.
	or maybe it will maybe that's another perfect about him then No, he's not perfect.
	Oh, then no.
	He's your equivalent.
	So all the deficiencies that you have or that you bring to a relationship, by the way, I'm not saying there are any.
	But he is mirroring in some way the deficiencies in which you're bringing.
	Oh, so I'm not subscribed to OnlyFans, so he is.
	No, I think, how do I just put this simply?
	Look, let me ask you this.
	Well, you said you're very picky and you have high standards, right?
	We should get into that.
	Why don't you tell us about the kind of guy that you want?
	Okay, well.
	So let's start looks.
	Okay.
	So how tall are you?
	5'10.
	Okay, 5'10, so you're pretty high up there?
	Yeah, and I like to wear heels too, so.
	Okay, so bare minimum height for a guy for you to date?
	Probably 6'2 or 6'3.
	Okay, so you've already reduced.
	You're already like a really small percent of the population.
	Yeah, so 6'3, that's 1%, I believe.
	Is it 3%, 1%?
	Jake, do you know the percentage on this?
	I'm not sure.
	I know that I think 6' and above is 15%.
	I think 5'8 is the average.
	Yeah, I'm definitely taller than the average man.
	Yeah, you are.
	Well, I think the average is 5'9 or 5'10 in the U.S. anyways, but in Holland, it's a bit lower.
	So that's why I have higher ones that are in the house.
	So minimum 6'2, 6'3.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so that's already 1% of men, I believe.
	Maybe 6'2 is like 3% of men.
	Can somebody, can you find the statistics, Austin?
	What about other physical traits?
	So will you date any race?
	Yeah, I'm open.
	Will you date an obese guy?
	No, because that just shows that they don't take care of themselves.
	Sure.
	And then age, what's the age range that you'll date?
	I'm 27, so probably like 29 to 42.
	Okay, that's pretty reasonable.
	That's a wide range.
	Look, we should do the calculator too.
	Austin, can you pull up the calculator?
	It's probably so low.
	Have you done this before?
	No, my friends always tell me that my dating pool is like 1%.
	Do you want to know the average height?
	Yeah, what?
	Well, what's the percentage of men over 6'3?
	What's the height?
	Maybe the chat probably knows.
	What's the height percentile?
	Okay, so 3%.
	So 4%, 6'2, 3%, 6'3, 1% over 6'4.
	Okay.
	I was close enough.
	Oh, okay, I have a 4%.
	So 4% over 6'2.
	Okay.
	All right, good.
	How much is 6'2 in centimeters?
	About 190 or so.
	Okay.
	198.
	Let's also pull up the calculator.
	What's the person?
	Oh, it should be one of the tabs.
	If you look at one of the tabs up there, it's calculator.
	All right, we're going to go through the calculator.
	By the way, guys, like the video.
	All right, so age, I think you said 29 to 43.
	Oh, 43, okay.
	Race?
	Any exclude married, I'm assuming.
	Oh, yeah, definitely not married.
	Minimum height, you said let's do 6'2 or 6'3?
	6'3.
	Oh, okay.
	Exclude obese?
	Yes.
	And then minimum income?
	100,000.
	100,000.
	Well, you make way more as a nerve.
	Wait.
	Oh, that's fine.
	Scroll down.
	Ideal man, 0.11.
	That's really bad.
	Percent.
	Delusion score, 4 out of 5.
	Why isn't it 5 out of 5?
	It should be more.
	Oh my gosh, so what do I need to settle on?
	Perhaps height.
	Height would be a good one.
	Okay, I can go down like an inch.
	But guys already lie about their height.
	She can go down an inch.
	Wait, guys lie about their height?
	Yeah.
	Especially on dating apps.
	Do you think that's wrong?
	To lie.
	About your height?
	Yeah, I'd be like us lying about our bra size.
	But worse, it's worse.
	Yeah, but there's not girls always photo tune their stuff.
	They always look very different in real life than they do in their photos.
	Maybe, like...
	These days, the AI is...
	That's fair.
	How do you lie about your height?
	Well, like on dating apps.
	Oh, fair point.
	Okay.
	And then I'll stand up next and be like, oh, no.
	No.
	But if someone is super nice, then it doesn't matter that they're smaller than you, right?
	I dated shorter people.
	But you did have a good experience.
	Wait, what is shorter?
	Like 5'11?
	Is that what you're doing?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	My first boyfriend was 5'10.
	We're at the same height.
	But I look taller.
	Because of the heels.
	Well, no, I wouldn't wear heels back then.
	Right.
	Okay.
	What were we going around on initially, though?
	Because I mean, we can get into all this stuff.
	Oh, having high standards.
	No, before that, we were.
	I'm trying to remember.
	Do you recall what we were going around on, Maddie?
	Why are you looking at me?
	You give me the stink eye, Maddie.
	Okay.
	Girls should delete their Instagram or boys can keep dating for a while.
	If your boyfriend sub to anomaly.
	Oh, thank you, Maddie.
	Yes, okay.
	Deal breaker, is it an issue if your boyfriend is subscribed to Girls OnlyFans?
	Or here's the other one.
	He goes to the strip club.
	Is this a would you rather?
	No, no, not a would you rather.
	It's just like two scenarios.
	So what about the strip club?
	Would you have an issue if your boyfriend went to the strip club?
	Is it a bachelor party?
	No, he just goes once a week.
	Oh, no.
	But he goes for the food.
	Okay, how about he goes for the food?
	Okay, well, we can order DoorDash and get a super pool in our house and he can throw money at me.
	I suppose that's not that often, but LeBron Aces donated $200.
	Oh, damn.
	There's no way an A-Cup is demanding something or having unrealistic standards.
	You're a makeup fabric.
	You're basically a man and you should be shipped immediately.
	Hey, yeah.
	Bro naissance.
	First off, good to see you in the chat.
	But first off, I will not, as someone who's part of the itty-bitty titty committee, I will not allow you to disrespect a sister, okay?
	How fucking dare you?
	First off, I got to come to the defense of small boobs, okay?
	Jake, are you a small boob?
	I can't defend them, unfortunately.
	It's okay.
	I know I have an A-cup, but at least I'm not lying about my height.
	How tall are you, sir?
	Roasted.
	Bro naissance.
	I've not seen you in a while, man.
	Appreciate the TTS.
	Yeah, I don't know why the guys.
	I think small boobs are elegant and great.
	Elegant?
	There's another word for it.
	They don't look a slutty.
	So like we were talking about the Instagram pictures.
	Small boobs.
	If I wear a bikini, it doesn't look slutty.
	But if someone with bigger breasts wear a bikini, it makes them look slutty.
	It makes them look more tasteful.
	How do we have a seat?
	For a guy, when you see that, you think more of it in a very sexual way.
	That's like a guy who has a six-pack with his shirt off compared to a guy who has a dad bud with his shirt off.
	That's a good way to put it.
	That's definitely a good way to put it.
	I like to think this always gets me hate from everybody.
	Like you look at Greek statues, Roman statues of women, they don't have giant fucking can crusher titties.
	They got like maybe a B-cup.
	Generally, they're quite voluptuous as well in a lot of those.
	Yeah.
	That is true.
	That is true, but I've never seen this Roman statue, Greek statue, of some giant can crushers, you know?
	That was like the beauty standard back in the day, though.
	They had like a different idea of what was like pretty, you know.
	But maybe they were onto something.
	You know what I mean?
	Also, the male statues, the penises weren't very big.
	I just want to throw that out there.
	Just throwing it out there, ladies.
	Just throwing it out there.
	Going around the table, strip club, you're fine with the strip club, him going to the strip club.
	Why not?
	He's just there to eat.
	But he just wants a chicken wing.
	He can order it to be delivered.
	But that's where he likes to have his chicken wings.
	That's talk to you, if you had literally.
	And I wouldn't date him.
	Wait, is the guy.
	Do you think this is a good argument when women say, oh, I just go to the club to have fun?
	It's like the guy, I just go to the strip club for the wings or something.
	Is that like the good counter?
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's a good one.
	Wouldn't date him, though.
	What about you?
	Would you date a guy who...
	I think OnlyFans I wouldn't like because that's very personal, right?
	They also chat a lot with the models.
	Well, here's the difference, though.
	So, yeah.
	I'll let you finish your point, but just want to introduce one quick nuance.
	When a guy goes or is talking to a girl on OnlyFans, the chances of him fucking the girl is 0%.
	When a man goes to a strip club and he's spending money on the girls there, the chances of him fucking the girls is 0%.
	But if you go to a bar, the chances of you cheating 0%.
	No, I won't do it.
	It's not.
	No, but it's a bit higher.
	But I wouldn't like that he's perhaps getting like, I don't know, the whole personal thing.
	I guess my boyfriend, if he wants, can watch porn or something.
	But not the personal chatting, I guess.
	And the strip club, I would find a bit of waste of money, but if you would do it once a year, then in a real-time.
	That's a waste of money.
	No, he's just going to get some food.
	But don't you have to pay entrance?
	Or is it free?
	Sometimes it's free.
	It's a good wing.
	I've never been in the strip club.
	I don't know how it works.
	I've only been once, but sometimes, I mean, there wasn't food at the one that I went to.
	I don't know.
	Depends what you're doing.
	They're terrible.
	But yeah, I guess.
	And then just to be polite, like, he'll give like 10 bucks to one girl or something.
	But he goes for the food.
	If he wants to eat there one time, sure, but every week, then maybe it's his favorite place to eat.
	But he does look at the girls a little bit, but he's there for the food.
	That's reasonable, right?
	I have a boyfriend.
	I'm not imagining him doing that actually.
	And it's just very adorable.
	You don't mind your boyfriend watching porn?
	I guess not.
	Like now I'm like a week.
	But if you're in the next room and he's watching porn, isn't that a bit gay?
	What do you mean if I'm in the next room?
	If you're in the next room and he's in there playing with himself, isn't that a bit gay?
	Gay?
	Yeah.
	You think watching porn is gay?
	No, but he can go and have sex with you.
	But I said like right now I'm a week away, so maybe he does that when he's home.
	What if it becomes a habit and then he's doing it in the basement?
	Isn't that gay?
	Well I live in an apartment.
	I don't have a basement.
	Gay.
	Yeah, it's gay.
	He's playing with himself.
	I'm sorry.
	He could go upstairs and have sex with a woman, but he's playing with himself in the next room.
	Isn't that a bit gay?
	I think this is very funny.
	I really assume you're making a joke.
	No, I'm dead serious.
	I'm 100% serious.
	It's gay to play with yourself?
	Well, if you're not necessarily a girlfriend and you can have an active sex life with your girlfriend, but you're off playing with yourself.
	It's a bit gay.
	Are you saying that in like a homophobic way?
	I mean, not homophobic, homosexual way, or like a derogatory German way.
	Well, it's kind of a little bit of somewhere in between.
	Okay.
	Because you're playing with yourself when you could be playing with your girlfriend.
	But what if I'm working?
	What do you mean?
	No, my situation is if you're there.
	No.
	Why would he then play with himself?
	Well, I mean, if you allow it while you're away, what if it becomes a habit and he prefers it?
	Isn't that clear?
	That would be very sad if he prefers playing with himself instead of playing with me.
	But you allowed it, so you sort of let it in the door.
	I think you're jumping very big steps here.
	Yeah.
	Big steps.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If you're cool with him watching porn, then like, what's the difference between him doing it when you're there and you're away?
	He's still getting off to other women.
	I think if he rather watches porn and plays with himself instead of going with me, then maybe our relationship is really breaking down.
	Like, I don't know.
	That shouldn't be good.
	But if he's watching porn when you're not there, it's...
	I don't know.
	Why doesn't he just use the bank?
	Maybe he does use the bank.
	But you're okay with him watching porn in a relationship?
	I mean, hypothetical, yeah, I guess.
	Unless he like stops.
	I've never dated a Dutch girl, but it seems like you guys have not many boundaries.
	You don't think I have boundaries?
	Well, I mean, like, actively allowing your man to watch porn or being okay with it, I think that's strange.
	And then also being in the open relationship over here, and it just seems like there's a lack of boundaries.
	We're complete opposites, I think.
	I mean, there's a lot of things that are normal in our culture in our country that are really not done here.
	But I guess it's kind of what you grow up with.
	And I'm fine with that.
	And you're not, and that's also fine.
	The Dutch are pretty liberal.
	Yeah, they're very liberal.
	I mean, they got like the red light district.
	It's prostitution's legal.
	You can be in the city center of Amsterdam.
	Amsterdam's the capital, right?
	Yeah.
	You can like take one, go one block down from the city center and see everything, see everything, yeah.
	But still, I believe I have a lot of boundaries.
	Like, we don't have an open relationship, we don't flirt with other people, we don't do all this stuff.
	And actually, I don't know if my boyfriend watches porn, but I don't, I just, it's a hypothetical.
	I think if he really wants that when I'm away, why not?
	Well, let's get everybody's answers on this.
	Uh, Selena, you're the porn star here.
	Uh, would you be cool if your boyfriend subbed to another girl on OF?
	No, because I have one, like, sub to mine.
	Like, for me, it's like the competition, so he would be subscribing and supporting the competition.
	Wait, but wouldn't your boyfriend get it for free?
	Mine, your content.
	No, but she's saying that she wouldn't like it because he's supporting the competition.
	Yeah, so like it's kind of just offensive to me because, like, that's the competition you're supporting and probably giving money to my competition.
	So, it's just like it's kind of rude.
	But, like, you would give your OF to your boyfriend for free, right?
	Yeah, because I mean, he's my boyfriend, like, he sees everything anyway.
	And then, what about the strip club?
	That's not really your competition, is it?
	Or is it still your competition?
	No, no, not at all.
	I've never done stripping or anything, but like, I wouldn't like it because I don't know, like, I'm more into like monogamous stuff, like, outside of my work.
	So, it would just be kind of like, why are you going in your personal time to look at other women?
	And, like, for the wings, for the food, yeah, for the food.
	I'd be like, get the fuck out of here.
	Like, yeah, that's a total BS, dude.
	Like, bye.
	What about you?
	Would you be cool with your boyfriend if he subscribed to another girl's OnlyFans or a girl's only fans?
	No.
	Not cool with it?
	Not cool with that.
	He just wanted to support an entrepreneur.
	He just was supporting an entrepreneur, okay?
	And then what about the strip club?
	He went to the strip club once a week.
	No.
	No, why not?
	Why not?
	That's a strip club.
	I feel like.
	But he's, it's dance.
	It's an art form.
	Uh-huh, but there's a lot of nudity.
	Well, yeah, but isn't that beautiful?
	Not in my context.
	It's beautiful.
	Like, I could go with him, but like, you're not going by yourself.
	It's like his thing, you know.
	Like, he needs his alone time, you know.
	Yeah, no.
	Like she said, we can grab the wing, order some wings.
	We'll have a stripper pole in the house.
	But no.
	What if he orders the wings for the story?
	Wait, there's no way that he's like, what if he orders them from the police?
	He can order it from the bottom.
	Just to me.
	Okay, so wait.
	You two said this.
	I'm just actually curious, though.
	You're saying if you wouldn't, I feel like they would just be like, I feel objectified.
	You're telling me if your boyfriend, if your boyfriend comes to you and he's like, you're going to install a stripper pole.
	Well, he's going to install it.
	I'm not going to.
	So you'd be fine installing a stripper pole at your place and he can tell you to strip on command.
	Not whatever he wants.
	It's not like, oh, my command, you strip.
	Okay, the on-command part kind of ruins it.
	How about he wants you to strip for him?
	You're fine with it?
	Yeah, I'm okay.
	I'm not saying it'll be good.
	Yeah, man, that's cool.
	All right.
	But not cool with the strip club.
	Yeah, no.
	But you have such a strong, like, when I asked you about the OnlyFans, the strip club, you had such a like, no way, can't do it.
	But like your boyfriend, you broke up with him because he wanted to try to enforce boundaries on you.
	Okay, but like my boyfriend at the time, I mean, come on, it was like a high school relationship, whatever, kind of over it.
	But like, I feel like it's a different sit, like, it's a different situation because back then, um, I was like cheated on every year, but I went back.
	So it's wait, by him, yeah.
	So I was not gonna information.
	Yeah, I was not gonna like, I was not gonna wait.
	Hold on.
	How many times did he cheat on you?
	From what I know.
	Yeah, from what you know.
	Oh my god, I don't know.
	Like three, four, five, six, seven.
	Well, entertained people on social media multiple times during our first year.
	I think it was our second year.
	How many girls did he have?
	Did he put his pulse over in the new one?
	Did he boink?
	I have no idea.
	I just, our second year, I found out he like hung out and kissed, but I don't know what else was done with his co-worker.
	So yeah, I don't know.
	Co-worker?
	Yeah.
	Subway?
	McDonald's.
	He worked at McDonald's?
	Yeah.
	All right, that's a respectable.
	He's making a Big Mac, then he gave her the Big Mac, you know what I'm saying?
	So how many girls was he cheating with?
	Maybe not sleeping with, but how many girls do you think he was like cheating?
	Like that you caught him talking to?
	Like, I have no idea.
	I mean, like, the conversations he would have with like multiple women.
	And like, he'd delete messages, and you could tell it's deleted because they're having a conversation, mid-conversation.
	It's like it switches the tone, everything.
	Well, just give us a range.
	10 girls, 20.
	Yeah, like, definitely, like, more than 10.
	Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number.
	Okay.
	So he was cheating on you.
	And you would break up with him?
	Yeah.
	But then you said you got back together a whole bunch of times.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Who would you go back to him?
	Like, you would reach out back to him?
	No, he would reach out to me and he would like tell me that he's been really going through it, that this time he matured, he's grown.
	And he was not in high school.
	I was in high school.
	He wasn't.
	So.
	Wait.
	Wait, wait.
	No, like, I was 17.
	He was like 19.
	Like, it was only a two-year difference.
	When you're seven years ago, is it okay?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, is it illegal or not?
	I don't know.
	I think that's not illegal.
	I have no idea, but it was a two-year difference.
	In California, it might still get you in trouble.
	Yeah.
	I think it depends, like, a certain date after your 17th birthday.
	Like, it's okay.
	Well, you guys.
	Okay, so, anyways, he was cheating on you.
	How many times did you guys break up?
	I can't even count.
	So it was on again, off again.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Macca.
	Yeah.
	What do you call McDonald's in Australia?
	Macas.
	Macca's.
	Yeah.
	Macas.
	Macas.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Macas.
	I still haven't gotten closure on this 0.11 situation.
	Oh.
	It's kind of sad now.
	I really hope.
	So, you know, you have your own requests, but what do you bring to the table?
	I bring a lot actually.
	I feel like I have a good job.
	I give back to other people.
	I'm super kind.
	I'm willing to give my all to be in a relationship if they give that back to me.
	So you're a nice person?
	What else?
	I'm athletic.
	I like to travel.
	Red flag.
	Australia?
	Australia.
	Okay, you're traveling right now.
	I know, but I'm a guy, so it's very different.
	Women like worldly men.
	And guys don't like when girls can travel too?
	No.
	You don't want a travel buddy?
	I want to show her the world.
	Okay.
	I don't want her to have already been around the world.
	That's not cool.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Anyways.
	Wait, you said, in response to Jake's question, you said, did you say you bring your career to the table?
	No.
	Or was it a good career?
	No.
	I thought you said, like, I have a good job or something.
	I mean, I have a job where I give myself to other people all day, helping take care of them.
	No.
	Oh, sorry.
	So I'm a nurse.
	I'm a nurse.
	I'm a travel nurse.
	No, I know, but you give yourself?
	Yeah, like, there's a lot of crazy stuff that we do and see in a day.
	Is that a good thing for a relationship or a bad thing?
	No, it's a good thing because then you know that I'll take care of you when we get old and about to die.
	I'll take care of you until death.
	So what do you think a guy like that who's six foot three and athletic and earning really good money, what do you think he'd be looking for?
	Me.
	I'm just kidding.
	I don't know.
	Hopefully.
	You don't know?
	Hopefully me.
	Have you investigated maybe what that sort of guy?
	I just want to be myself and the right person will come.
	I know what you want, but what do you think he wants?
	Someone who's loyal, faithful, trustworthy, which I am.
	Do you think he, is there anything else that he might want?
	I don't know, you tell me.
	Well, it's kind of interesting because if I was going to say that I want this very, very rare commodity that's actually very hard to attain and then really hard to keep after that, I'd want to have a game plan about how to get there.
	And I'd want to understand how exactly to get that.
	So do you think that, you know, you're kind of winging it here and it doesn't seem very likely?
	No, it's definitely possible.
	Do you think you might want someone who's younger?
	Maybe.
	Maybe I want someone who's older and more mature.
	Yeah, you've said that.
	Yeah, but do you think that as you get towards 30, you become less fertile?
	A guy like that might want lots of children.
	Yeah, yeah, and then he should definitely date someone younger.
	Yeah, so has it occurred to you that you have to lower your standards?
	Yeah, it has.
	I'm still delusional, apparently, is what they said.
	I'd say so.
	If you were to lower your standards, what are some of the areas in which you would lower your standard?
	Would it be height?
	Would it be athleticism, money, age?
	Maybe like how well in shape they are.
	Their height, how much they make.
	It just depends on the person.
	Yeah.
	Conceivably, what kind of guy, could you see yourself going for a guy who's 5'10, earns 80K a year, a little bit out of shape?
	No, because that's taking something out of each different category.
	But do you think you're above that, better than that?
	Like you shouldn't have to do that.
	I mean, yeah, my height-wise, I'm taller than someone that's 5'8.
	But in terms of the overall, we're talking about the overall sort of everything together.
	Do you think that you're above that?
	A guy who's 5'10 earning 80K a year?
	Yeah, because I make more than them.
	I'm taller than them, and I'm in better shape than them.
	Do you think guy cares how much you make?
	No, not at all.
	So why does it matter?
	But, no, it doesn't matter, but for girls, it does because we have to think about our future.
	And like, if I'm going to have a lot of people.
	We're well aware of what you want, but we're talking about what the guy wants.
	Yeah, they want someone.
	They don't care about money.
	If he doesn't care about money, then it's not really going to occur to him.
	So it's not really going to factor.
	But for me, it makes a difference because if I'm having children with someone, we can't.
	Well, yeah, because it's my life and it's my life.
	Yeah, I know, but What we're talking about here is we're trying to put ourselves in the guy's shoes, see what he might want.
	Okay, so should I quit my job?
	No, not quit your job, but I'd say drastically lower your standards.
	But unfortunately, when you've been around and it's like 10 years and you're 27 and you've dated all these different guys, you've got all these expectations because you would have dated a guy who's 6'2, dated a guy who earns over 100K, you would have dated all these different guys, and now you'll be disappointed when a guy doesn't have any of those characteristics.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Does that make sense?
	I've got a few more years left than me.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, anyways.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	What about you?
	Let's put you in the hot seat.
	Go for it.
	What are you looking for?
	I'd say I'm looking for a woman who's interesting and who's cute, attractive, someone who's humble, someone who isn't out here trying to put themselves all over Instagram and trying to get all of this male validation, somebody who's religious, God-fearing, and somebody who genuinely wants to be a mother and wants to be a wife, and that's her life ambition.
	And what do you bring to the table?
	Well, I've got a very good career going on.
	I think I'm decently attractive.
	Lots going on.
	What's your Instagram look like?
	What do you mean?
	Well, you say girls can't have Instagrams.
	Well, do you think that it's equal?
	It should be.
	Well, it's not.
	Okay.
	Can you see your Instagram?
	go for it.
	I don't really post too much, but...
	How many followers do you have on Instagram?
	8,000, I think, maybe.
	Oh, that's a red flag.
	Why?
	That's too much or too little?
	Too much.
	You're a hypocrite.
	How so?
	You don't want a girl to have Instagram at all?
	I know.
	I don't mind if she has Instagram, but it has to be on private, just family and friends.
	Is yours private?
	No.
	I know.
	I love the fact that you guys are laughing like you made a point.
	But guys and girls are different.
	And first of all, I'm a content creator.
	I'm a YouTuber for a living.
	And girls don't really care about that.
	I've never had a girl say, oh, your Instagram's a little bit too public.
	It would just never occur.
	Yeah.
	And I also don't want her to be a provider.
	I don't want her to be a protector.
	I don't want her to have to jump in front when there's a robber.
	I don't want any of these things.
	And I would never expect that.
	That's the guy's job.
	And then women have a certain job as well.
	To be maternal, loving, peaceful, to be a mother, these sorts of things, and to recognize that.
	So the fact that I am not maternal doesn't make me a hypocrite.
	Because I'm not going to be a mother.
	Do you want a guy to pay for her first date?
	Yeah.
	Would you date a guy who wants you to pay for the first date?
	I would probably pay for dinner and then never see him again.
	Well, that makes you a hypocrite.
	No, because how am I going to know if he's going to pay or not?
	Right, but so you want a trait in a partner that you yourself are not willing to accept in a partner.
	Similarly, Jake here, he might have some quarrel or objection to a woman who has a public-facing Instagram that posts certain types of photos, but he doesn't have, like, he's not going to take his Instagram down.
	It's not clear to me if that makes him a hypocrite necessarily.
	Any more than it makes you a hypocrite for wanting a guy to pay for a first date, but you would never be willing to pay for a first date.
	No, I have, but then I wouldn't see them again.
	Well, so sure.
	Does that make you a hypocrite?
	No.
	Why not?
	Because that's setting my boundaries.
	Okay, so you're saying that's a good idea.
	So then they cross the boundary.
	Are you saying that guys?
	The guys and girls have different roles in that situation when it comes to a first date.
	Yeah, because the game wants to be a provider.
	Ah, here we go.
	He's not being a provider, who's not providing the first date.
	So then it doesn't make you a hypocrite having different standards.
	Take the L.
	Okay.
	All right.
	But so you said that it's okay for a woman to want a provider, right?
	Yeah.
	But so, and would you consider that traditional gender role?
	So, like a man being a provider, that's a traditional man.
	And a man who wants 50-50, wants to split the bill, that's a modern man, right?
	Well, is a modern woman a woman who posts revealing immodest photos on Instagram?
	She's got to pay half the bill, yeah.
	Well, well, hold on, I'm not really getting there.
	But so, is a woman traditional if she's posting revealing, and I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just asking, is a woman traditional if she posts revealing photos on Instagram?
	Probably not.
	Do you think a component of being a traditional woman is modesty?
	Yeah, okay, checkmate, I guess.
	Yeah, I think you just keep agreeing to what we're saying and then could not quite sort of conceding.
	Yeah, you should be a little modest, but you can still.
	But if you want a guy who's got all these different things going on, you're talking about a top, top, top-tier guy who's going to be able to fulfill all of his masculine duties.
	So, then shouldn't you be fulfilling all of your feminine duties?
	Yeah.
	I still got to pay rent.
	No, you won't.
	You got a guy who's earning upwards of 100K a year.
	But, I mean, guys, my dating pool is so small, so I'm just living.
	I got to certainly live in David.
	I've got to provide for myself until I can find that person.
	It sounds like I'll be working a while.
	Well, yep, keep at it.
	Well, I do want to go around the actually, before we go around the table on this question, Austin, can you pull up Twitch, Discord?
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	Okay, back to what do you bring to the table?
	In a relationship.
	Yes.
	What do you bring to the table?
	Yo, craze Ace.
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	I'm really kind and caring.
	I'm fun to be around.
	I like to make other people happy.
	I have a good job.
	Yeah.
	Good job.
	Just a nice person.
	But really quick on the job thing, do you think?
	I just quit my job to go full-time as a content creator, but I think that will be successful as well.
	But like, so the question is, what do you bring to the table in a relationship?
	Do you think your job is something that you bring to the table?
	Yeah, also stability.
	And we have money to go on vacation and do fun stuff and go out for dinner.
	But do you think in the calculus of what your boyfriend or any man for that matter cares about, do you think your job is high up there in terms of what men in terms of making an assessment of how attractive you are to him?
	I think my boyfriend really likes it that I follow my passion.
	And I mean, you talk a lot about your job because it's a big part of your life.
	So I think having something interesting to talk to and having money to do fun stuff works.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But I mean, mostly the fact that I'm caring, that I'm fun.
	I think that's good.
	But in general, do you think that men typically highly prioritize a woman's career in terms of the calculus of what they find attractive?
	I don't know.
	How about this?
	Do you disagree with the, and the whole panel can answer this, do you disagree with the following statement?
	Men do not care, generally speaking, about your educational achievement or your career or how much money you make.
	I don't think they care about how much money you make.
	They care about what?
	I do think they care about what your education is and what kind of job you have, yeah.
	They care about what kind of job you have.
	But I mean, so wouldn't I mean that would to some degree tie into your earnings, but perhaps not if you're like a feminist studies or some shit.
	But so you think most men care about that?
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	Good to see you in the chat.
	So how about this?
	Just going around the table.
	Do you think, how did I frame it?
	Agree or disagree, men don't care about women's careers.
	Hold on, let me frame it a little better.
	Agree or disagree, a woman's career does not make her more attractive to a man, generally speaking.
	Generally, I would agree with that, but it depends on what the man is looking for, like what kind of woman he wants.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Agree or disagree?
	I think men do care.
	So you disagree then?
	Okay.
	Sure.
	That's fine.
	What about you?
	Yeah, same.
	I think men do care.
	Men do care, okay?
	For me personally, they care, but like if I had just like a normal job, I feel like most men don't care because like if like as a man you're in the provider role, like you would be the provider anyway, so my job would matter less than yours.
	But like obviously, you know, a woman should be educated and like, you know, have like ambition.
	So I think that matters over the course of the time.
	When you say ambition, what kind of ambition?
	Career ambition?
	Just like with anything.
	So like maybe she doesn't have the best job, but she is really ambitious in artwork or, you know, she really likes making YouTube or just like has like a hobby where she can be creative and like, I don't know, just show that, you know, she has ambition to achieve goals, like no matter how big or small, I guess.
	Huh, ambition.
	So career ambition.
	Kind of with anything.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	What do you think?
	Can you repeat the question?
	Yeah, sure.
	So agree or disagree, men in general do not care about a woman's career in terms of it making him more attracted to her.
	No, I don't think men really care.
	Okay, Maddie?
	I don't think they care about career either, but I kind of agree with her on the other, like the passions and the hobbies and things like that aside from a career.
	I'm not even sure about that one.
	Jake?
	No, I don't care at all about your career, but I do like it when a woman has interests though, and has things that she's interested in.
	Because if she likes reading books and if she likes making arts and crafts or something like that, then I like that because they can do things in their spare time and it makes them more interesting to talk to.
	Because you do have to talk to this person when you're old.
	Yeah.
	Do you, though?
	Couldn't you just, like, she's in the other room and you're just kind of...
	Yeah, exactly.
	She needs something to do.
	So it's like, you go do your thing.
	I do my thing.
	Cleaning?
	Cleaning.
	Sure, yeah.
	I have a passion for cleaning.
	Yael, what do you think?
	Yeah, I think probably, oh, sorry.
	Probably generally don't care as much as women would care about a guy's career, but I mean, I think it's also important to like, if a woman does have a career, that you should probably like what her career is or like find it interesting.
	I don't know.
	Because that ties into what her hobbies could be depending on her career.
	I don't know.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	You don't want it to be useless either, though.
	You don't want it to be useless.
	I would ideally have my wife working for my business with me and being able to do the emails and being competent in a way and not just being a sack.
	Yeah, I mean, it's good if she's not just fumbling all over the place and has no...
	And also, if you go out of town for a week and you're like, hey, you need to take care of the kids and hold it down at home, you need to be able to make sure that she's like, yeah, cool, I got it.
	Yeah, I think at least for me, what I would look for is because I mean, once you kind of get into a place where you're earning such amount of money, I would want a girl who's ready to help me with my mission.
	And this is for long-term partnership, right?
	Because in my mind, I'm like, well, you could have your 50, 60, 70K career.
	Or if we're going to be long-term partners, have kids, whatever, if you can free me up by helping me, and then that can enable me to go on and make an additional $200,000 a year, it just makes way more sense for you to quit whatever you're doing and come help me.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Like just the math of it.
	Okay, you can have your 60K career, or by helping me, I earn us an additional $200,000 a year.
	It's a no-brainer at that point.
	So if you can get, and if you can help out, you don't even necessarily even have to be necessarily even involved with the business, although you could be.
	It could be just like, how can you free up time for me, make my life easier, so I can go out and kill it for the both of us?
	That's kind of where my head's at.
	There's a big difference for a guy between operating at 95% and 105%.
	And if a woman can make that difference, if the guy's already high achieving, then it'll make a bigger financial difference than your career or your job.
	I had something for Selena about her career.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's probably a rewarding career.
	I really, her porn ambitions, she needs to be more ambitious in her porn career.
	She needs to sleep with more men.
	Yeah, you ghost.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I don't know where I'm going with that.
	What was the question?
	I totally, totally forgot.
	What do you bring to the table?
	Did we get everybody, I think?
	Where did we get to?
	I think we only got here.
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What do you bring to the table?
	What do I bring to the table?
	Well, the obvious.
	I can cook, clean.
	I'm fun to be around.
	I love to go on adventures together.
	I think that the person who is with me is blessed to never be bored.
	I think that's a huge thing.
	Inspiration as well.
	Never be bored?
	Yeah.
	I love being busy.
	I love adventure.
	Red flag, red flag.
	Really?
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, we could go to raves together or we could just game together, play D together.
	When a girl says, you'll never be bored with me, all I just think about is there's going to be drama.
	It's drama-free.
	Arguing, fighting.
	No?
	No.
	I mean, obviously, you're going to have some arguments, but no.
	Drama-free, definitely, yeah.
	Stop the cow.
	Okay.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	What else do you bring to the table?
	What else do you bring to the table?
	What else?
	Yeah.
	What am I outside?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I just love to go on adventures together.
	I think that's also a big thing.
	I need someone who is spontaneous so we can go out together and explore.
	Selena, what do you bring to the table?
	I mean, I'm conversational, funny.
	Like, I like trying new things.
	So, like, you know, couples, like, adventures, I guess, just like activities, traveling.
	Gangbangs don't count.
	I actually have never done a gangbang, so yeah, it doesn't count.
	Excuse me.
	Excuse me.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I mean, I think I have a nice body.
	Like, I don't know.
	I'm pretty chill, I feel like.
	Like, I can get along with the in array of people, you know?
	By the end of tonight's show, I'm pretty sure we can get you to quit porn.
	What do you think?
	I mean, it didn't work last time.
	don't know well this time we have jake here and we have yael who's she yael will convince you She's a savage.
	She will convince you.
	Jake, what do you think?
	Should we get this girl out of the porn industry?
	I think, you know, we'll probably do a nine-hour show tonight, so we've got like seven hours.
	I'm going to try to do a short, short show tonight.
	Maybe another 20.
	30.
	Another 20.
	One of these days we'll do like a 24-hour stream or something.
	That'd be crazy.
	That would be insane.
	Selena, do you want to eventually be engaged in a relationship, a happy marriage, children, all those sorts of things?
	Yeah.
	So what's the thinking with the porn?
	I mean, it's just like, it's something I enjoy doing.
	Like, and I, like, obviously I'm 19, so I haven't been doing it for that long.
	So you can get out and, well, you still can, maybe.
	I mean, I could change careers if I wanted to, but for now, I'm happy doing what I'm doing.
	Do you ever stop to think about the detrimental effect that it might have on your future?
	Yeah.
	Do you recognize that it's dirty money?
	I mean, I've made dirty money before in different various ways that I can't tell the United States customs, but it comes with consequences.
	Yeah, of course there's consequences.
	Yeah.
	There's consequences, but I mean, you could say that about a lot of jobs.
	Like, I don't know.
	I'm at a point where it's like I've kind of accepted that there's always going to be judgment.
	There will be backlash in the future.
	Like, especially if I have a family and stuff.
	Like, you know, at the end of the day, it was a decision that I made to do this career.
	And, you know, in life, you have to kind of just accept your consequences.
	You know, it's part of life.
	But why this, though?
	Why this particular career?
	There's a lot of ways that you seem like a bright young lady, but there's a lot of different ways that you could make money.
	There's a lot of different things you could do.
	Why that?
	It's like the most extreme thing that you could possibly do.
	That is true.
	I mean, initially, I just kind of started online, and it was more of like my fans wanting me to expand.
	Like, I started out really small, and then I kind of just decided to do it.
	And it was kind of just like a rush decision.
	Like, I wasn't thinking about all the backlash or future consequences because I'm like, I'm young, whatever.
	I'm going to do this because it seems fun and interesting.
	What about the consequences now as well?
	Because diseases and everything is very rampant in that industry as well.
	Do you ever think about diseases, you know, sexually transmitted diseases?
	For our industry, I feel like it's very safe.
	We get tested full panel every two weeks and we can't work without it.
	But if you have a blood disease like HIV, then it takes six months sometimes for it to show up.
	That is true, and that's why I do prep, like the HIV PrEP pill to protect myself from that.
	Yeah.
	But there's other things as well that you could catch, and if you were to slip up.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	Herpes?
	Are you talking about herpes?
	I'm talking about herpes, HIV, all of these different sort of things that you could catch.
	Raise your hand if you have herpes.
	I don't know.
	Okay, go.
	I mean, well, I mean, like, yeah, that's a fair point, but it's like, I feel like in our industry, like, we're safer than average people because, like, we do care about being tested.
	So often, like, the likelihood is just very low.
	I feel like, I mean, like, 14-day, like, in a 14-day span, the only thing I worry about is people, what they do in their spare time.
	Because I don't know if they're going out with anybody.
	But if you're always engaging in sex, then just by that alone, then you're putting yourself at more risk.
	And also, the numbers show that these diseases are much more prevalent.
	Like, a herpes is very, very prevalent in the porn industry.
	Yeah, it is, yeah.
	And that's a risk you take by doing it.
	Is the money good enough to be doing this?
	It kind of just depends who you are, how much.
	It seems like from what you're saying, you sort of just fell into it.
	It's sort of escalated.
	You're aware that there are consequences.
	You're not delusional that there are all of these consequences.
	Not at all.
	But you don't want to get out of it at this stage.
	Yeah, I mean, I think right now I'm happy, you know, pursuing it.
	And in a few years, if I don't want to do it anymore, then I don't have to do it.
	You know, I can quit whenever I want.
	Have you seen the, like just recently in the last year or so, there's been all of these different porn stars that have finished their career and off themselves.
	Have you seen that as well?
	Yeah, I mean, I have heard about all those stories, and it is very sad.
	It's like they tend to get sort of used up and then thrown away after their career, after these long 20-year careers, and then they're not attractive anymore.
	And then once their beauty fades, they get sort of tossed to the side.
	I mean, you could say that with anyone.
	And I feel like as far as offing yourself and stuff, that's prevalent just in the world in general, not just necessarily within a certain industry.
	Like you never know what people deal with, what they're going through, their experiences.
	I don't know.
	I actually didn't know those women, so I don't know what they dealt with in their life.
	It could have been something completely unrelated to my industry.
	Yayel, you had a question for her?
	Yeah, I was just wondering what you thought about.
	Sorry.
	Like, how it might affect you since how old have you said you were 19?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, because starting at like a younger age versus like people that are older, not that I know much about like the effects on different people, but since it has like effect on people's mental health, do you think it might be worse for people that are younger?
	Or like, are you concerned about that at all?
	For mental health, I feel like I've always personally struggled with it.
	Like, I've struggled with depression, anxiety, you know, and it's just, it's always been a thing.
	Like, mentally, I've always been, you know, not the best.
	And I feel like even if I did a different career, I would still be struggling.
	And that's why I'm kind of just like, it is hard mentally to put yourself out there and be vulnerable, like your whole body and like everything.
	Like it is difficult.
	And like I do get judged like in every way.
	Like literally every single thing about me gets judged.
	And it is hard.
	But I mean, I guess in the future I'll see about my mental health and the effects that it had.
	But that's just, you know, it's life.
	Really quick on the career thing.
	Did we go around the table?
	We did go around the table on the career.
	I just, I forgot to actually make my own point on this.
	So here's the reality.
	Vast majority of men really don't care about your career.
	Like a lot of girls will say, I bring my career to the table, I bring my money to the table.
	Vast majority of men really don't care.
	It doesn't make you, when I say they don't care, I mean it doesn't make you more attractive to them.
	In the same way that a woman might be like really attracted to a man who's a doctor, voice crack happens a lot.
	Voice.
	Doctor, lawyer, these are kind of more prestigious positions.
	Women will tend to really prioritize trying to date these kinds of men who have these kinds of positions.
	They're in high demand.
	It makes them more attractive to women.
	Women who occupy these positions typically don't become more attractive.
	So women tend to more highly prioritize.
	Posting this for Mason rather than for the panel that is uninterested in what quality man is looking for, but it still needs to be said, ladies, your career ambitions doesn't make his D harder.
	Yo, Desert Joe, thank you so much for the TTS, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	Good point.
	For example, like women, I don't know if you'll know this, like, so have you ever seen these concerts where a woman will be like, go to a concert, her favorite musician or whatever, and she'll like write a message on her iPhone, like, I'll fuck you right now.
	Like, like, men who have, who are really high status, who are famous, athletes, musicians, actors, women, like, will significantly pursue these kinds of men and be like more turned on, more attracted to these kinds of men.
	But like, a woman's status, it doesn't really make you more attractive.
	really you disagree um i've walked in on a few patients jacking off in the hospital Wait, what?
	That took a turn.
	That took a turn.
	What is that?
	Are you saying, like, my patients are like walk in and they're just touching themselves?
	Or they'll be like, oh, my God, the door.
	And I'll be like sitting at my desk and they'll just be like, maybe bro's bored.
	They probably are bored.
	Got nothing else to do.
	Well, I'm not really sure if that's totally related, but it's kind of related, but.
	Please say men are very attracted to nurses in that way.
	Maybe.
	No, probably not.
	Or could they just need to be a little bit more distracted?
	Yeah, maybe it's the drugs that we give them.
	Like, here's the reality, right?
	Like, you're a travel nurse, you're an RN, you've done a bunch of schooling for that.
	You probably make good money.
	I've heard travel nurses make a lot of pretty good money.
	Nurses in general make good money.
	I don't think you're going to be able to out-compete like a woman who's more physically attractive who works at Chick-fil-A.
	I'm not saying that to be insulting, but like a man will prioritize a woman's unemployed is what we want.
	Well, they want someone who's feminine, like in their feminine energy.
	Men want that?
	Yeah, men.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, it's not just all about looks.
	I mean, men do care about being feminine, bringing peace, like you have a good positive disposition, these sorts of things.
	But like women will think, will sort of almost project, okay, I find these traits attractive in men.
	I find status, I find status, dominance, etc.
	These things attractive in men.
	Ergo, men must similarly find these same traits attractive in women, but it's not the case.
	So women will perhaps sometimes confuse in a sort of confused way pursue a career or pursue status thinking, once I get enough status, once I get here in my career, I will become more attractive to men.
	It's actually not the case.
	In fact, as you get more money, as you earn more money, as you get more status, your pool shrinks, not really so much from the male side of it, but because you now need men to either match or out-earn you.
	You need men to have similar prestige, similar status to you.
	You often hear this with women.
	I need a man who makes as much or more than me.
	So typically, once men, the more money a man makes, the more status he makes, his dating pool opens.
	The more money and sadness a woman gets, her dating pool shrinks.
	That's messed up.
	Why is that messed up?
	Well, because a guy, I guess, should be making more money than his wife if you want to have like a traditional family.
	Right, but so that used to not be hard when women were not participating to the same degree in the labor pool.
	So it's very easy to be economically attractive as a man to women if the woman didn't work.
	And you used to be able to raise a family on one income.
	That's no longer the case, though.
	So what was the way men typically, at least in the past, made themselves attractive to women by being providers?
	Now, women don't need men in that same way because you're making your own money.
	So then you start looking at other things that will make you attracted to him that have nothing to do with providing necessarily because you can still provide for yourself.
	So I think it used to be in the past, oh, okay, he can provide for me, then that's good, I guess.
	But anyways, ultimately, most men, if given the option, will date the 21-year-old hottie who works at the Chick-fil-A drive-through over the 31-year-old, I guess still good-looking, but lawyer woman.
	Agree, disagree?
	True.
	Agree, disagree?
	You disagree.
	Maybe it's a difference between Europe and America.
	It's got to be the same in Europe.
	It's for sure the same in Europe.
	I really don't.
	I think there's a lot more nuance.
	I think there's a lot of nuances.
	Your countries are pretty liberal, though.
	Your countries are very liberal, like those European countries.
	It is a bit of a different vibe there.
	But in saying that, a lot of countries in Europe are also very Christian as well.
	So oftentimes the girls will live at home until they're married and take the whole traditional route as well.
	So it's a mixed bag over there.
	It's not like they're all.
	Maybe the area where I live indeed in Europe.
	Holland is very liberal.
	It's falling apart, if I'm honest.
	They're going to be underwater, hopefully, soon.
	So, like, well, they're pretty good.
	They're pretty good engineers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sorry, they're good farmers.
	We need their farming.
	That's about it.
	Like, I think the perspective where guys will factor in, like, your job, is, I mean, it could be a component insofar as he's like, okay, well, I want to start a family.
	Like, it will have certain, it'll benefit the family if she's earning enough.
	But, like, in terms of attraction, it's not the same between men and women.
	Like, a girl will be really attracted.
	Like, I'm trying to think.
	Like, guys can make up for deficits in other realms with status and with money.
	It's not so much the case for women that they can make up for their deficits in terms of what men care about when it comes to attraction, which, I mean, the big thing is obviously.
	Youth, beauty, and fertility, you don't really make up for it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	With status and money.
	So again, I would argue most men, if given the option, they'll pick a 21-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A over a 31-year-old who's an attorney.
	Every single time.
	Agree or disagree?
	I think often, not every single time.
	Do you think that for men of all ages?
	I'd say often as well.
	Often.
	Yeah.
	I've met a lot of men.
	It's not every single time, but let's just say it's the majority.
	But a lot of the guys in these countries are like institutionalized with liberalism.
	And they'd be just as shocked as they are to hear about these.
	Well, I suppose they've been propagandized and brainwashed to some degree.
	In Australia, it's rampant.
	But in terms of their knee-jerk initial, like what they're attracted to, I'm sure you'd agree even with the brainwashing.
	Definitely.
	They're still going to be more attracted to the 21-year-old, like more attracted to the 21-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A than the 31-year-old master's degree, attorney, whatever.
	But everyone feels like they need a self-censor these days and that they'd be called out for saying anything else.
	So guys just won't go with what they actually believe.
	Yeah.
	Very simple.
	Rough times.
	Okay, let's see here.
	We've got a bunch of stuff to get into.
	We went around the table about what they bring to the table, I think, right?
	Did you answer that question?
	I think we got you.
	Yeah, I answered.
	What do you bring to the table?
	I'd say I'm very understanding of cheating.
	No, I'm very understanding.
	I would like to think I'm pretty nice, hardworking.
	I don't know.
	I'm good at communicating, and I feel like that's very important in a relationship.
	So if they want to talk about something, I feel like it's my job to make them feel like they're understood.
	And yeah, I'm like trying to think, but I don't know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, we'll read a couple chats here.
	Maddie, can you read?
	Females can be on the podcast, but ain't no way we can let one get in the White House.
	I would rather that gay butt gay guy than a female.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, especially a Democrat.
	They tried locking him up and killing him, but no man can interfere with God's plan.
	Vote Trump.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Mike Davis.
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	It's been, Mr. Mike Davis, been a while.
	Where you been, man?
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	Good to see you in the chat, Mr. Mike Davis.
	And then we have a message here from Alexia.
	Yael, can you read this one?
	Can you see the...
	Sorry.
	Just taking the opportunity to be a first-time supporter of the show and aid in the efforts for Mason.
	What a tragedy.
	Hey, Alexia, thank you so much for the message via Streamlabs.
	Good to have you as a first-time supporter.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	So where do we go?
	You know what?
	We need to do your dating app review.
	We're going to get you a man here.
	Let's go.
	We're going to get you your 0.11%.
	Please do.
	I actually deleted dating apps for like a year, and then I realized that I had really bad dates in person, too.
	Bad dates?
	What did you do to make it a bad date?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	I showed up.
	Late.
	You just showed up.
	Mr. Unicorn might be watching here.
	Yeah.
	While we pull up.
	Can we pull up the dating apps for her?
	Okay.
	Is this the first one?
	No.
	That's like the second or third, I think.
	Are you sure it's at the start?
	It is at the start.
	Okay, maybe it's just out of order, but that's fine.
	Okay, so this is Gabby, Gabby's dating app profile.
	There she is in.
	Is that Haiti?
	Havar.
	Huh?
	Havar.
	Where's that?
	Croatia.
	Croatia.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, the top one?
	The red flag?
	The bottom one?
	The first one's in Hvar, and then the second one is in Laguna Beach.
	Oh, how did I confuse Laguna Beach for Haiti?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	Can you read the prompt?
	I go crazy for beach days, traveling, coffee, hiking, adventures, and good food.
	Oh, hold on.
	Read it.
	Dating me is like winning the lottery.
	Yeah, because you found your unicorn, Santa Monica.
	Winning the lottery?
	Yeah, because I'm a unicorn.
	What's the chance of winning the powerball or whatever?
	Isn't it like one in a million?
	Less than 0.11.
	Oh, see, it's the same.
	We have the same odds.
	Wait, so like dating you is like winning the lottery?
	Yeah.
	Because you see how small my dating pool is?
	0.11%.
	Well, that would be you winning the lottery for dating the guy that you want, right?
	So it's same, same.
	Is it though?
	But different.
	Is it?
	It's pretty equivalent.
	Don't you think it's a bit prideful or a bit of hubris to be like, dating me, I am so fucking amazing and special that it's like winning the lottery.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	A lot of red flags in there getting it.
	A lot of red flags.
	I need to change it.
	What should I change it to?
	A lot of reds.
	Dating me is like.
	I didn't know what else to pull out.
	I got it.
	I got it for you.
	Dating me is like buying 30 scratch cards and winning on one of them.
	Winning like $1.
	Yeah.
	That's fair.
	And that would be funny as well.
	I'd like to do that.
	Okay, I'll change it to that.
	Yeah.
	There we go.
	Right?
	See, I'm already helping you out.
	Change that.
	Okay, I'm going to get hell in the middle.
	Dating me is like playing Russian roulette.
	I might ruin your life or kill you.
	Wait, I love that.
	Okay.
	Dating me is like picking up a needle from a one of the back street of impoverished town in Philadelphia.
	Wait, hold on.
	Where am I going?
	Stabbing myself with it and not getting HIV.
	There you go.
	That's great.
	Because it's still, it's like winning the lottery of not getting HIV.
	Yeah, that's great.
	And it communicates that you don't have HIV.
	And.
	Okay, never mind.
	I don't get the winning the lottery thing, though.
	It was just a prompt and I didn't know what else to put it.
	I totally just re-downloaded it, so.
	Would you date an average?
	Would I date an average guy if they have a great personality?
	No, Oh, average personality?
	So average personality, average looks, average height, average PP size.
	Ding-a-ling.
	Ding-a-ling.
	Would you?
	Well, it's all about the motion of the ocean, but no.
	You wouldn't date an average?
	Not like an average personality.
	That'd be boring.
	What's wrong with average?
	Do you think I'm average?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	It's okay, though.
	There's nothing wrong with average.
	No, there's nothing wrong with average.
	It just sounds like it'd be boring.
	I'd rather be single.
	I think average people normally date each other.
	Extremely beautiful people date each other.
	Ugly people date each other.
	I need to date someone ugly.
	Would you, you said you wouldn't.
	Did you say you wouldn't be willing to settle?
	Is that what you said?
	I would rather be single than settle with someone who's average and boring and like does it make me happy or fulfill my needs?
	But what about when you're in your 40s, for example, and you're not really traveling as much and you're not young in your 20s anymore and life slows down a little bit.
	Don't you think you'd be more happy to be with a guy who works in construction who's 5'10, earns a decent salary and he's a good guy and you guys can make kids and have a family and live?
	My mind might change when I'm older because every year you learn something new.
	But isn't it just a vapid lifestyle to be doing the same thing in your 40s and 50s?
	I mean I don't do anything too crazy right now.
	But if you were still doing that when you're in like 20 years time, don't you think it would be just wouldn't be a very good life?
	Yeah, I mean anything that you do for a long time like could get boring after a while.
	Yeah.
	I think I'm still doing what I'm doing now in 20 years time.
	That's like a night.
	It's like a nightmare for me to think about that.
	I don't really think that girls think ahead that much with this sort of thing.
	I mean I definitely do.
	I want to have a big family and have lots of kids.
	But I shouldn't feel the pressure of society to...
	I think we all need that pressure.
	It's like a good pressure that we've got.
	It's like duty.
	It's for men to say that because you don't guys don't have like a time clock.
	Yeah, but we've got other disadvantages.
	You know, we've got lots of disadvantages.
	Like?
	Well, the fact that we don't get any attention sexually when we're younger.
	When a guy's 20, 21 with no resources, he's probably got pimples on his face and ugly.
	Girls don't really look twice at them.
	I mean, same with girls.
	Are you joking?
	Girls who are between 20 and 24 in their sexual peak, they get a lot of people.
	I'm not talking about high school.
	I'm not really talking about...
	Even young guys in high school.
	I mean, we should pull up one of my high school photos.
	I was disgusting.
	But yeah, I mean, yeah, guys, we have to develop ourselves as men and getting into your 30s when you've got more resources, you're more competent, you're a better leader.
	This is when you start to get more attention and you start to, this sort of thing starts to work.
	Well, it definitely takes guys longer to mature because your frontal cortex doesn't develop until you're like at least 25.
	And you have to make a bunch of mistakes and fall on your face a bunch of times and go out into the world and experience all different kinds of trials and tribulations.
	But that actually grows your character as a guy.
	But before then, you don't really get much serious attention unless you're like ridiculously good looking or unless you have some sort of precocious talent.
	So that's a disadvantage that we've got.
	Going around the table on this though, you said you would not be willing to rather stay single than settle.
	So would you rather stay single for the rest of your life than lower your standards or settle?
	I already have the best man I can wish for.
	assuming you were single right um well before this i was eight years single so i guess i just i don't know I don't think there's anything wrong with an average guy.
	And so you would date an average guy?
	Yeah.
	But like you said, average dates average and all of that.
	I would date an average guy, yeah.
	And then would you rather stay single than have to lower your standards or settle?
	Depends on the situation, really.
	If it's something that's going to annoy me in the long run, yeah, I would never settle for that.
	If it's something I can deal with in the long run, yeah, I would settle for that.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would settle, yeah.
	I think I would settle.
	I mean, I feel like in the long run, as long as he's like a great dad to like our kids, I feel like that's all that really matters.
	Sure.
	But other than that, yeah.
	Warden?
	I have a question.
	Can an average man be the provider?
	It is difficult in this economy, but it's possible, though.
	Depends.
	If you live rurally, you can.
	But if you're living in a city or a place like Santa Barbara, then it is nearly impossible.
	It's a big problem that we've got at the moment.
	Wait, do you want?
	You want to get married, right?
	Yeah.
	You want to have kids?
	How many kids?
	Three to five.
	Three to five?
	Three to five.
	Not three to five.
	Yeah, three to five.
	And do you want to continue working while you're like, once you start having kids, or what do you think?
	I want to be a per diem princess.
	So if you guys don't know what that is, it's like, so for nurses, you can work full-time, which is three to five days a week, depending on your hours.
	Or you can work like one day a week, like a per diem job where you just kind of work whenever you want to have an income and like have a social life still and still have like a normal routine and have like that sense of normalcy.
	Word?
	Okay.
	Let's go back to the dating app.
	Dating her is like winning the lottery, gentlemen.
	All right, next.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, it says, the way to win me over is plan a proper date, be a gentleman, and take me on adventures.
	What's wrong with this?
	I think that's okay.
	Okay. Okay, sorry.
	I thought that was the best part of the whole profile.
	Next.
	The beginning.
	That's the first picture, too.
	This is the last one.
	And the first one.
	Okay.
	That's the last one for the dating app stuff.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it wasn't terrible.
	Okay, scale 0 to 10.
	I'd say there's a lot of red flags in that profile.
	Oh, yeah, the traveling.
	The lottery was bad because that would scream headaches for me, entitlement.
	Already putting yourself on a pedestal.
	I know it's a joke, and you're just kidding, but also the traveling photos.
	Bikini photos on beaches around the world.
	I'd say, have you thought about investing in a Burka?
	A Burka?
	Yeah.
	I have a poncho.
	A poncho.
	It's the next best thing.
	Okay.
	And maybe a photo with a poncho.
	Oh, or like a onesie.
	I have a unicorn onesie.
	Oh, and then I could be like, this is winning the lottery.
	You're finding your unicorn.
	That would be better.
	That would be funny.
	That would be all right.
	But yeah, all of the traveling.
	And then when you say registered nurse and you're traveling a lot, it's like.
	Travel nurse is a red flag already.
	I know.
	Wait, you know that?
	People always tell me that.
	It is a red flag.
	Why?
	What makes it a red flag?
	I'll give you a couple reasons.
	What happens in Vegas?
	So I think one thing, like, let's say there's a relationship-minded guy, but you're, and it sounds like you stay in cities a little longer than other travel nurses, but I remember when I was down dating apps, I'd encounter a lot of nurses.
	A lot.
	Like, I've dated a lot of nurses.
	So, not my type, but I've learned.
	I've learned.
	And I've dated local nurses, but then I encountered a lot of these travel nurses.
	They're in town for like six weeks, eight weeks.
	Same with flights.
	Short stints.
	Flight attendant, even worse.
	The thing is, if she's on a dating app and she's going on dates, she ain't dating people for long, which means what?
	High body count, promiscuity.
	And also, it's a good opportunity for you to be able to do whatever you want and not have the social stigma of your circle back home.
	Nobody knows about it.
	Just get away with it.
	That's true.
	So it's like, I remember I was on a date with this travel nurse.
	I thought she was just a regular nurse.
	Turns out she's a travel nurse, you know?
	I mean, it's like crazy, right?
	And I'm like, oh, how many cities you've been in?
	And she's like, 33.
	I'm like, oh, no.
	Hold on.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, that's a red flag.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Just no.
	Bad.
	She probably and I'm like, am I dude 3100?
	That's what I'm thinking in my brain.
	Am I dude 100 because you were on Tinder and Hinge and Bumble in the other 33 previous cities?
	Seattle.
	Scottsdale.
	Warm hot chocolates.
	Washington, D.C. Boston, Fort Lauderdale.
	Louisiana.
	Wait, that's New Orleans.
	Why does what matter?
	Why does it matter when you have someone who travels a lot?
	And maybe she sells.
	Because typically, people who travel a lot, so they don't make any, what's the term for it?
	They don't have, I don't know if it's roots, but like when you stay in one place, you're going to end up, hopefully, with a long-term relationship.
	If you know you're leaving a city in six weeks' time, are you going to date seriously or are you going to just like date casually?
	Probably date casually.
	You're going to rack up a high body count.
	You're going to have friends with benefits.
	Even if you date just one guy in one city, it's only going to last a couple weeks, couple months.
	Then you're in the next city.
	You've racked up a high body count.
	High body count is undesirable in women.
	You are now disqualified.
	Why do you look at it so negatively, though?
	Negative.
	Yeah, so you could go to a city and go dating.
	Okay, that's not it.
	You leave, go to the next city, and then you meet someone who's the love of your life.
	And you know you're leaving, but you can go back.
	You can always take a staff job, too.
	But you're asking kind of two different things.
	So you're saying, yeah, a woman could sleep with 300 men, and then the number 301, that could be the guy she ends up in a relationship with.
	But from the male perspective, I don't want to date a girl who has 300, 200, 100%.
	All the males.
	Most men.
	Men hear that and they will be repulsed by that.
	And if they're not repulsed by that, and if they're willing to accept 100 bodies or more, then they just, like, their priorities aren't in the right way.
	But what does traveling have to do with having a high body?
	Well, I just explained it.
	And also, if you're on the dating apps as well, when you're traveling and you meet a guy on a dating app, obviously he's going to be doing that everywhere.
	And also, when you're going to new cities, you don't really know anyone, you haven't got any friends, what's the easiest way to hang out with people and have some company?
	It's to go on dating apps.
	Or joining a club.
	Yeah, you don't get a bad idea.
	Getting a hobby.
	You're not joining clubs.
	Give me a break.
	Have you ever joined a club in a new city?
	Yeah, I've played volleyball.
	Same volleyball.
	So it's the same thing with flight attendants, right?
	So these flight attendants, it's hard for them to like, look, there's different, I've heard from flight attendants, there's different degrees of how frequently they're gone.
	Here's the thing, right?
	So there's a couple components.
	There's opportunity.
	So if you're in a new city and you're on a dating app, a lot of these, I've matched with these flight attendants.
	This is how the messaging goes.
	Oh, hey, good to meet you.
	We match on Tinder or Hinge.
	How long are you in town for?
	12 hours.
	Okay, what does she want from me if she's only in town for 12 hours?
	Companionship.
	No, What is the only thing that's on the table with a woman who's in town for 12 hours?
	Is it a long-term relationship or does she want to fuck?
	She wants to fuck.
	It could be either one.
	Maybe she just wants a hug and someone to talk to.
	She's going to find in her primary city, she's going to get a relationship in her primary city.
	If she's on a dating app and she's traveling and she's in fucking Los Angeles, Miami, wherever for 12 hours time, the long-term potential there is next to nil.
	So if she's on a dating app, she's there to fuck.
	But she can move anywhere, it sounds like.
	So she could move to you if you guys hit it off on the first date.
	Yeah, but here's the thing.
	So how long is it going to take to get to that point?
	All the while she's still on Tinder, she's still on Hinge, she's still on the dating app, and she's in the next city, and she's got hoes in different area codes.
	Literally, she's got a dude she can stay with when she's in New York, a dude she can stay with when she's in Seattle, a dude in LA.
	Well, it sounds like a little insecurity because if a man was secure, he'd be like, oh, I know I'm the best thing she's going to get, so maybe she'll just delete her dating apps and won't meet anyone else as good as me.
	You're insecure.
	How's that work for women when it comes to commitment?
	What do you mean?
	I mean, perhaps, I mean, you think most people can operate on this level of, I'm so fucking amazing that immediately this person is going to drop all their other options?
	Well, it would depend on...
	You've been single for four years.
	What's kept you from being able to lock down?
	I'm not saying this to be insulting.
	Right?
	But like, so it would appear to me that you yourself, I'm not saying this to attack you, just to kind of use your language here.
	You're not amazing enough to lock down a man.
	I haven't met the right person.
	I haven't like built a good connection that I would think is strong enough.
	So I'm saying that like if you met someone that was a flight attendant and you had such an amazing connection, you would maybe have hope that they're not going out there and like dating other people.
	But you don't know.
	So even if I grant that I could meet a flight attendant and she's really cool, whatever, I'm still going to vet her on her past promiscuity.
	And if she's 30 and she's been a flight attendant for, I don't know, 10 years or whatever, that's a lot of mileage.
	That's some frequent flyer miles.
	Frequent pussy miles, you know what I mean?
	Maybe she'll give some to you so you can take some flights.
	I'd rather not, you know.
	Look, here's the thing, right?
	When you travel a lot, there's opportunity.
	You're not in one, it's harder for you to get a long-term relationship because you don't stay in one city for long, right?
	So, and this is, look, this applies to men too.
	Like, men who are men and women who are on the road a lot, whether this means flying, it creates conflict in relationships.
	Long distance is difficult.
	Long distance is more difficult.
	I'm not saying it doesn't work.
	Long distance is more difficult than just being in the same place as somebody.
	It introduces issues.
	I'm on the road all the time.
	I live on the road traveling.
	And yeah, I get quizzed on that regularly.
	If I'm seeing a girl in a city, she'll be like, oh, well, I mean, is there any hope for this for the future?
	Because you're just going to be in another city next month.
	And how do I know you haven't got a girl in the next city?
	So it's very difficult to be us traveling people.
	It's a hard life.
	But like, think about it, right?
	When it comes to you, you're a travel nurse.
	So in my own anecdotal experience, having encountered a couple travel nurses, I match with them on the dating app.
	I'm like, how long are you here for?
	They tell me six weeks.
	They tell me three months.
	If I'm inclined, you know, if a guy's inclined, he's not going to view her as a long-term prospect, right?
	And even if he did, she's leaving anyways.
	And so what's ultimately going to happen is what's most likely going to happen.
	As soon as she leaves to her next assignment, she goes to some, he's on the West Coast, she's on the East Coast.
	It's going to be the end right then and there.
	And if she's done that 10, 20, 30 times throughout her career, she's just already racked up a body count on top of what she already did in college, on top of what she's just already going to do, before she meets the guy who she's going to be exclusive with for two months.
	She already hooked up with three, four, five, six, seven guys in this new city she's in.
	So I'm already thinking, okay, no way.
	No way.
	Too much traveling, too much bodies.
	I think people don't really understand the whole career aspect of it because you could be a travel nurse and you could be considered a local travel nurse, which means you just travel to hospitals in your city a few cities away.
	How many cities you've been in in the past five.
	Five cities.
	In the past, how many years?
	Five years?
	Three years.
	Four years.
	You've been in five different cities in three years, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How many men did you date in each of those cities?
	I don't have a number.
	You can't even remember it.
	No, I remember.
	Like, seriously dated?
	I'll go on dates casually, but I haven't dated anyone the entire time.
	Well, you said you've been single for four years.
	Have you been celibate for four years?
	Not four years.
	How long you been celibate for?
	About a year and a half.
	Hold on.
	Get the button.
	You're a fucking liar.
	You're a fucking liar.
	You've been celibate for a year and a half.
	Yeah.
	You live in Los Angeles?
	You're a fucking liar.
	You're a fucking liar.
	Where?
	You can ask my roommates, my friends, my family.
	Sneaky links.
	No sneaky links.
	Just celibate.
	Yes.
	No carnal knowledge.
	No, none.
	You got cobwebs, what's going on?
	Cobwebs?
	No, because I feel like a lot of people in this generation just want to hook up, especially if they see you're a travel nurse.
	So I want something that's like real and I want to see if someone's willing to wait and put the work in and take me on dates and plan them.
	And if I have a connection with them, then yeah, I might.
	Wait, put the work in?
	Yeah, like planning dates.
	How long is he?
	Wait, so you've been celibate for a year and a half.
	You meet a guy you really like.
	How long are you waiting until you hook up with him?
	It depends on the connection.
	Connection's good.
	Maybe like three to five dates.
	In the past four years, have you gone on three to five dates with any guys?
	I think I made it to like date number five and then he was leaving to go out of the country.
	Press X to doubt.
	And he also had a family that I found out about.
	Celibate for a year and a half?
	Might not be the case.
	Unfortunately, so.
	I often find that they call themselves celibate because they didn't like the guy.
	But they don't count the guy they met in Boston that one night.
	No, but like, seriously, he doesn't count.
	One night stands count, but I haven't had intercourse with a single person.
	P and the V?
	No, not even the tip.
	Yeah.
	How long ago?
	Just in Miller?
	Just for a second.
	Just to see how it feels.
	Almost a year.
	So before that you were in?
	Before that I was living in Scottsdale.
	You said it was like three years you've been traveling?
	Yeah.
	So in like all the other cities, what would you do?
	Yeah, I had a few one-night stands.
	There's something wrong with that.
	But I think that there's nothing wrong.
	If like you want to hook up with someone, that's your body.
	It's your choice.
	Like sex is a normal thing.
	And like you release a lot of serotonin, dopamine.
	It makes people feel happy.
	But also, it's like an energy exchange.
	A couple questions on this.
	Are you religious at all?
	Curious?
	I'm spiritual.
	Spiritual.
	You said you've had a couple one-night stands?
	More recently?
	Because you said you're not there.
	Obviously, not recently.
	Well, like two years ago, three years ago, you had some one-night stands here and there.
	And then, like, you went to college, maybe some hookups in college.
	Yeah, mostly just like college and then aftergraduate.
	Question for you: What is the quickest from like first meeting to it's getting going down?
	Five minutes.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	How quick?
	An hour, 30 minutes.
	Definitely a few hours.
	A couple hours.
	Because I want to talk to someone and see who they are.
	Okay.
	So can you pull up her dating app profile again?
	The last prompt?
	So the way to win me over is plan a proper date, be a gentleman, and take me on adventures.
	And then in addition to that, you also just said now how you want to wait, you'd wait through the five dates depending on the vibe.
	Yeah.
	I'm just curious, why the switch-up, though?
	Because you said you've, I mean, you said you've had one-night stands.
	Yeah, I think I had that phase in my life where it was fun and casual, but now I'm looking for something more serious.
	And I feel like guys take you more seriously when you tell them that information.
	What do you guys think?
	I think you should convey that better on your profile.
	I should say the serious stuff.
	Maybe just look a little bit more modest and not like the whole traveling thing.
	And just look like you're looking.
	Because when I see that profile, I think recreational use only.
	Nothing serious.
	That's a funny term.
	I like that.
	I don't like the caption, recreational use only.
	I don't like the recreational use only.
	Well, I mean, it's like.
	I wouldn't do it personally.
	But I'm saying when you put people into categories on dating apps, and I'd say that just through the photos and through the bio, it'd be like, you know, maybe signifying just having a bit of fun in a new city.
	Have a few days.
	Yeah, but back on the date, then I would open up and.
	Yeah, but guys, we read into this stuff.
	You guys read into it a lot more than we do, but we still read into it.
	No, I really don't.
	I just like power swipe until I find someone to talk about.
	Do you enjoy any luxury goods at all?
	Like purses or anything like that?
	I mean, yeah, they're nice.
	Do you have a nice purse?
	Yeah, but it's fake.
	We don't know that.
	So no.
	What's the most you've spent on like either some sort of jewelry or a purse or anything?
	I mean, mostly just like clothes, probably like $200 or $300.
	Like some nice shoes or something.
	Yeah.
	I'm not really familiar with shoes.
	What are they?
	Louis Batons?
	Are they?
	Christian shoes.
	Lou Batons?
	Are those still like cool shoes?
	I don't know.
	And then, so the question, I guess, for you is: would you feel kind of ripped off if you went to go get some Louis Buffons and you spent, I don't know how much they, let's say it's $1,000.
	And then the very next day, one of your girlfriends goes to the same store, same store, and the store sold her the exact same shoes that you bought for $100.
	Would you feel like ripped off?
	Yeah, for sure.
	Yeah, I kind of feel like that's how men feel when women previously gave out sex super easy, like one-night stands, casual sex, whatever.
	And then now that you've had your fun, now that you've lent, you've you're looking for something serious now, now you're gonna make these new guys wait a couple dates.
	They gotta do all this investing, they gotta pay for dates, they gotta be a gentleman, they gotta take you on an adventure.
	Who knows what that means?
	Maybe that's like they gotta take you on a trip somewhere before you're gonna give it up, right?
	And it's like weird, it's kind of crazy.
	It's like it feels like a rip-off almost.
	Why do I got to do all this shit when that guy at the club that didn't take you on a date didn't wasn't really even a gentleman, he got to hit within three hours.
	But why do I, the guy you think you want a relationship with, why do I got to wait three weeks?
	Because I'm a better person now.
	I have more knowledge, more mature.
	Is that what you mean?
	Respect myself for trips.
	By adventure.
	No, I feel like you could have an adventure just like sitting at home, going to the beach.
	Like you can have local adventure just like making life.
	They're just going for a walk.
	Yeah.
	That could be an adventure.
	Going to the playground, swinging.
	That's kind of cool.
	Going on the spinny thing.
	I think it's kind of a raw deal for me.
	So, I mean, essentially, do you promise that you will never have a one-night stand again?
	I can't necessarily say that.
	See, never say never.
	But that's what's so confusing.
	Women will say, for example, you even said it here.
	Well, that's in the past.
	Now I have higher standards.
	I want more.
	I want a relationship.
	But you're not even still ruling out the possibility of having a one-night stand.
	So imagine, like.
	I mean, I'm just not going to lie about it and be like, oh, I'm never going to.
	Because I don't know.
	Maybe I'll change my mind when I'm 40% of the time.
	I'm not going to get laid.
	This is, sure, but this is like another layer of like the rip-off component here.
	It's like, it's one thing, I suppose, for a woman to, okay, well, I was in college, I had a string of hookups, but now I'm looking for a relationship.
	Still object to it.
	I mean, look, you can do it.
	I still think men are getting ripped off.
	But then to say, like, imagine as a guy, the last guy she hooked up with before you, she fucked him within an hour.
	And then you come along and then she makes you wait three months.
	She's like, no, baby, I want something serious.
	I want it to mean something.
	You got to work for this pussy.
	You got to take me on dates.
	You got to pay for dates.
	You got to do adventures, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	Then you date her first, you get the pussy, you date her for six months, you break up.
	The next guy she gets into a relationship, she fucks the same day she meets him.
	It's like, what are your values exactly?
	This is situational.
	But that's not really.
	It's like you're trying to feign chastity.
	Like you're trying to, it's like you're playing a game.
	You're trying to leverage sex for something.
	I'm not trying to leverage it.
	I just want to build a deeper connection.
	Because like when you have sex with someone, you are building a connection based on emotions and physicality.
	When I want to build like a deeper emotional, intellectual connection.
	But that's fine to want that.
	But let's say the guy that you want a relationship with, he wants to have sex on the first date.
	Do you tell him no?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Even though.
	Okay.
	I mean, look, you're totally fine to do that.
	My body, my choice.
	Right, that's cool.
	My wallet, my choice.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	But that's fine.
	Look, as a woman, you could have had sex with 100 men within five minutes of meeting them.
	And man number 101, you could look at him and you're not even religious.
	You could say, you have to wait until marriage to fuck me.
	Women are 100% within their right to do that.
	What I'm advising is that men look at a woman like that and say, that's a raw fucking deal.
	I ain't dealing with you.
	that's a raw deal so my chances of finding my soulmate is no that's not that's not even what i'm saying I'm just saying it's kind of like, okay, here's an analogy, right?
	You're at McDonald's.
	Wait, who dated the McDonald's?
	Who was the person?
	Oh, that was her.
	Okay.
	You're at McDonald's.
	No, okay.
	The McDonald's fuckboy.
	You're at McDonald's.
	There's seven people in front of you.
	There's seven people in front of you in line at McDonald's.
	They all order a hamburger.
	They get charged $1 for the hamburger.
	You finally get to the front of the line.
	You ask for a hamburger.
	And the cashier says, it'll be $100 for you, for the hamburger.
	You'll be like...
	Supply and demand.
	Well, hold on, no, no.
	Ah, but here's the funny thing.
	There's 10 people behind you.
	And then as soon as you pay the $100, the 10 people behind you, they then get the burger for $1.
	Would you feel ripped off?
	1,000%.
	And that's how men feel.
	But is that better though?
	Are all the burgers the same?
	Yeah, this burger is the exact same.
	But I don't think all the burgers are.
	The $100 burger, it's the McDonald's cheeseburger.
	Yeah, but you know that should be.
	Relationships for every relationship is the same.
	Like everyone you date is different.
	Well, yeah, but like what you're offering to all those men is the same.
	Like it's going to be the same, really.
	Because it's you.
	You're the same.
	I'm offering them my burgers.
	In fact, you could even make the argument that as people age, they get less attractive.
	It's just a reality of aging.
	But the other thing is you've accrued relationship baggage.
	You've accrued trauma from your past relationships.
	You're going to bring that into your new relationship.
	Who knows?
	Maybe you've gotten, who knows what you could have gotten.
	But I'm just saying.
	You know what I mean?
	Look, you're free to do it.
	I'm just advising men to be like, eh, you're leveraging sex against me.
	I want a woman who has, Jake said this on Sunday.
	As a guy, you want a woman who has, what is it, burning desire?
	Is that the genuine burning desire?
	It's like, okay, why?
	It's like you reward the fuckboys, jerks, assholes, the men who would arguably be the least deserving of sex.
	You give them the sex super easy, same night.
	They don't have to do anything for it.
	And then the guy that arguably is the most deserving of sex, he has to wait.
	He has to put in the good work.
	He has to chase the carrot on the stick like a good little simp worker boy.
	A little, what are the ants called?
	The little drones or whatever?
	Like a good little drone.
	You put in five first dates and you pay for the date and you're a little, give me that nass out hug and a kiss on the cheek on the first date.
	You have to wait.
	Patience is a virtue.
	I have a question for you guys.
	Okay, would you marry a girl that you fuck on the first date?
	Well, I don't want to get married, but.
	Yeah, yes.
	Yeah.
	So I'll tell you about I've not been married, but I've had multiple long-term relationships, five years, two years, one year.
	The rapidity, the quickness with which I sleep with a girl is kind of ultimately irrelevant.
	It can be an indicator for potential promiscuity.
	It can be a red flag, but not necessarily.
	I think there's actually far greater red flags than that.
	Of all my long-term relationships, it was like first, second, or third date.
	It wasn't like, let's wait three months.
	60, what are some of the terms the girls will say?
	60-day policy, or what is it, 30-day?
	90-day policy, or what would they say?
	It's like, I don't know, it's just like 90 days and if you still have a bunch of people.
	90-day roll.
	60-day roll.
	Yeah.
	It's like, no, none of my things.
	In fact, all the girls that like made me wait, I just dipped, really.
	Like once you got it, you just dipped?
	No, no, no.
	Like, if they just continue to make me wait, and I'm like, it's one thing if she's a virgin or has a low body count, and her standard for waiting has been the standard that she's equally and equitably applied to all her previous partners.
	But if you're going to have, you've had 10 one-night stands, you had a one-night stand three months ago, your values have not sufficiently changed for me to believe that this isn't an act and that you're just not leveraging this to get something from me.
	I just wouldn't believe them as well.
	Like, you know, you don't have the evidence.
	If they've had a certain past and they say, like you've said, I've been celibate for a year and a half.
	I just, I couldn't prove that.
	I just wouldn't believe it.
	Why do you guys look into it so much, though?
	It's kind of funny.
	I feel like you're making drama murderers done.
	I feel like you're looking into it way more than you should.
	It kind of sounds like, oh, she did this, so that means probably this, so that means this, so I feel this, so it's kind of weird.
	Men are more logical when we think about these sorts of things.
	And past promiscuity is an indicator for divorce.
	They've done studies on this, and they show that as a woman's body count goes up, five, ten, they become exponentially more likely to end a marriage.
	So what about men?
	Men can be promiscuous?
	It affects them less, definitely.
	So what's like an average number for a guy to have?
	Like five to eight.
	I think that's about.
	Five to eight is low.
	That's not promiscuous.
	Yeah, I know, but over your whole life.
	But a lot of guys, that's where they sit.
	Yeah.
	But like five to eight.
	You ask what the average is.
	That's about the average.
	Like legit, that's a fact.
	Well, most, like, you'd be surprised to know that most guys are out there at the moment get zero sexual attention.
	Yeah.
	A lot of guys in their 20s even have been celibate for a whole year.
	A big percentage of people.
	So that would be about the average.
	just really curious and i want to ask like other girls here it's like the mindset that you guys have is that normal here or is that like yeah Yeah, it is.
	Yeah, like in America, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	I just wanted to know that.
	Because it seems so, like you said, like you think we're brainwashed, but it's funny because I think we think the same thing about you guys.
	And then I heard from Australia.
	In Australia, it's pretty bad, too.
	In terms of the liberal sort of mindset, happy wife, happy life type stuff.
	But you just have to look at the fruits of it.
	And I think that there is an objective truth about this.
	It's that people who have lower body counts going into marriage are much more likely to have a long and successful marriage.
	It's just fascinating that that's so important.
	Well, do you think it's important when you're going into spending the rest of your life with somebody and having them mother your children that you should be looking into these things?
	Absolutely not.
	No.
	I don't mind if my guy slept with 10 or 1,000 people.
	I'm speaking more as a guy, looking into the past of a woman.
	I've never been asked about body count or anything like that.
	So it's just very fascinating to hear that side of things.
	Well, like I said before, you can actually look at the fruits of it, and you can, this is actually borne out by stats as well to show that women who have a higher body count are much more likely to get divorced.
	And so they make for bad partners.
	So guys need to be looking into this stuff.
	If you want to have a logical analysis of the person that you're about to spend your life with.
	Sleeping with people does not make you any type of worse relationship.
	Error!
	Do you think that if you sleep if you sleep with a thousand people in a year, that makes you a worse partner?
	I think it actually says nothing about you, except that your libido might be quite high, otherwise you wouldn't have to be aware of that.
	That would make you a total whore if you sleep with a thousand people in a year.
	And it says a lot about your character, it says a lot about how you value yourself, and it would say a lot about what kind of a partner you'd be as well.
	What kind of a wife you'd be.
	And how you value sex.
	Because sex is actually important.
	It's not just something that we can do and just never think about it anymore.
	It's so human, it's so natural.
	So I don't see why it's not.
	Do you think it's natural to have sex with lots of different people?
	Oh yeah, that's where we come from.
	So yeah.
	Wait, so do you think body count doesn't matter?
	Absolutely not.
	Does not matter at all.
	What's your body count?
	I don't know.
	I knew you were going to ask this question.
	I thought about it, but I have no idea.
	I never get it.
	I don't need like an exact 53.
	I don't need an exact number.
	Give us a range.
	I don't know.
	I'd say 50, if I have to guess.
	More than 100?
	No, I don't think so.
	But it doesn't matter.
	It really doesn't.
	Well, you don't care about body count, right?
	You don't care about a man who's slept with...
	I prefer a man who has more...
	I think a lot of women, if they knew that a man slept with 10,000 women, they'd maybe get a bit of an ick.
	No, I prefer a guy who slept with more women because then they know what they're doing and they're experienced.
	So I actually prefer that.
	Are they?
	Are they more experienced?
	Or what is your question?
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't get this whole like, you need to sleep with a lot of people to either become good at sex or get experienced at sex.
	You could actually make the argument that a woman who's had, for example, 20 one-night stands, and that's it, versus a woman who's had one or two boyfriends and has had slept with them dozens or hundreds of times.
	Everybody's different.
	She's probably going to be better in bed than the woman who's had 20, 30, 40, 50 one-night stands.
	That's not true.
	It's not true?
	No, it's not true.
	Everybody is different.
	And also the communication style is different.
	Some people have friends.
	But I could just use that same argument.
	You said everybody's different.
	You're right.
	So the woman who's had one boyfriend, who's had sex with him a ton, she is different.
	She's going to be better in bed than the girl who slept with 20 men one time each.
	I think it depends what you mean by better in bed, though.
	I don't think the girls who are really promiscuous are good in bed.
	I find that they're actually a lot worse.
	Depends what you want by sex.
	And it's kind of unattractive when a girl's really promiscuous and she's just there to get her rocks off.
	And it doesn't really mean anything to her.
	It's not this sort of this important thing.
	Because if it's really important and it's really special for her, then that's actually a very attractive thing.
	But if she's just there to sort of have an orgasm, that's kind of gross.
	Okay.
	It is just crazy to me.
	There's also a really big differential here between sexual performance between men and women.
	You could make the argument that the man who's sexually experienced is going to be better in bed.
	I'm not sure if this equally applies to women though.
	First off, typically women are going, unless the woman takes on a more dominant role in the sexual encounter.
	I would argue that so long as a woman is open-minded and enthusiastic, that's all it takes to have good sex with her.
	I'm not so sure if a woman's encountering a male virgin, that she's going to have amazing sex guaranteed with a male virgin.
	But a man who has some degree of experience in the bedroom can take an inexperienced woman when it comes to sex or even a woman who has no experience and have amazing sex with her.
	I think feeling has a lot to do with it.
	Feeling?
	Yeah, like the passion you put into it.
	Like when meeting with a person.
	So she could even be a little nervous or shy.
	That's going to be bad.
	Nothing.
	That's not the case.
	Not the case at all.
	She's nervous and shy and it means a lot to her.
	Then that's attractive because she hasn't given it out to a bunch of different guys.
	Is it like a kind of like a holy grail for you, kind of?
	Let's kind of think about it like a golden ticket, you know?
	You don't want to be aware of that.
	All right, yeah, yeah, I mean.
	I'm just giving the golden ticket away to everyone.
	And if it means a lot to her, that's a very attractive thing.
	And if she's passionate enough about you, if it's a big deal for her, it's a good thing.
	If it's just nothing for her, that's really unattractive.
	Also, what is actually wrong with something being special to somebody?
	Like, do you, as a girl, do you really want to be pussy number 130?
	Really?
	Like, you're just pussy 132.
	Yeah, I don't care about that.
	Okay, well, you're an outlier.
	I feel like most women, look, maybe you want a guy with a bit more sexual experience, whatever, maybe you don't, doesn't really matter.
	Don't you still, perhaps in the relationship, want to be special to him?
	And then, men, we want to be special to you.
	I don't want to be dick number 57.
	But being special is not a bad person.
	I don't want to be dick number 57.
	Being special has nothing to do with sex.
	I see that very sensitively.
	Yes, it does.
	Yeah, and I think that's a clash here.
	Do you think sex is like having sexual sex?
	Having sex, I said it on Dutch television.
	Having sex is the same as going to the theme park for me.
	You go out, you have fun, and then you go back home.
	Was it fucking six flags?
	I'd say.
	Six cocks, six cocks.
	Yeah, but like, I think most guys who are self-respecting would look at that and think, oh, you're just completely desensitized to sex, and that's a very unattractive thing to be desensitized, to desensitize like that.
	All right, yeah.
	I understand where you're coming from now, more than what I did.
	Like a golden ticket?
	Like, I, yeah, that makes sense.
	Also, sex is not like a complicated procedure.
	You know, like, it's not this complicated operation, you know?
	Yeah, that's what I say.
	You know what I mean?
	You go, have fun, and then it's done.
	And then, so that's why, yeah, for me.
	But, like, okay, you're saying, like, the quality of the sex.
	Like, oh, if she hasn't fucked 30 guys, then the sex is going to be really bad with her.
	I mean, the reality is, though, first off, women look to men to be leaders and to be dominant.
	Not always.
	Some people like different kinds of dynamics in a relationship.
	But as a guy, if you know what you're doing in bed, you can take a girl who's never had sex and have really good sex with her if you know how to lead sexually, right?
	I don't know if this is the case for women.
	I don't think women would be turned on by having to teach a guy how to fuck them.
	So there's a differential there.
	But as a guy, I would have no problem, like, helping the woman along if she's not that sexually experienced.
	In fact, there could be some excitement component to that.
	It's like the girl who's like, I've never done this before.
	And she immediately clucked luck 9,000 or whatever.
	Hold up.
	What the fuck?
	You never done this before.
	Hold on just a second.
	But do you think it's cute?
	Is that also a factor in it?
	And she's a little shy and doesn't really know what's going on.
	I mean, I do think that there is something attractive about that.
	And it also just shows morals and virtue as well.
	If it's something that you take seriously.
	And then if you take something really seriously, it's really important to you, and then you give that to somebody, it shows that they're giving you something really important that means a lot to them.
	It means more than just having just random, you know, bodies whacking together.
	Also, I don't know if it's like the same for women, but like, let's say she is not the, again, though, if you're a guy and you know what you're doing, you can go ahead and first time having sex with a girl, you can have good sex with her.
	You can continue having really good sex with her, even if she's a virgin, even if she's unexperienced.
	If you know how to lead and you know what you're doing and you know how to be even like a percentage, I guess, to some degree dominant or leading in the bedroom.
	But shit, I lost my train thought.
	What was I going to say?
	Something about like experience or whatever.
	Being good in bed.
	Kind of slipped my mind.
	Oh, what I was going to say was maybe it's a deal breaker for a girl, like if a guy is bad in bed the first time.
	I would give a girl a lot of leeway, especially if she genuinely was inexperienced.
	I'd be like, hey, I care more about just the sex with you.
	This is something we can work on.
	If it takes a couple weeks, months, whatever.
	Like, I'm going to be spending hours hanging out with you.
	We're going to do things besides just sex.
	Like, you know... I didn't care at all if she's...
	I'd much, much prefer if she's really inexperienced.
	Like, that's much better, for sure.
	Like, Virgin would be ideal, and then you can just develop together rather than someone who's really experienced.
	Oh, also, I think what I was going to get at here is the differential in sexual performance between men and women.
	So, it's really hard as a woman to fuck up sex.
	I think.
	Like, you don't really got to do much to.
	Why are you laughing, Selena?
	You doing all this extra shit, Selena?
	Doing some fucking backwards, comma sutra shit.
	Look, it's really not that hard.
	Doggy style, arch your back a bit.
	You're fucking good.
	Get on top.
	I mean, it's true.
	I like to do work from the bottom.
	If she's on top, you don't have to do anything.
	Just fucking stay there.
	What else?
	I mean, look, it's really not that complicated.
	Why am I getting Italian here?
	Trump.
	But also, here's a big difference, right?
	So, I've asked this question before.
	So, question for you ladies.
	How do I frame this?
	Question, okay, here's the question, right?
	And if you guys need an earmuff, any of you need an earmuff.
	Do you think you could get yourself off without rubbing yourself?
	The guy just laid there, the guy just laid there, and he was just hard.
	Do you think you could get yourself off?
	No.
	Could you climax?
	Could you orgasm?
	Wait, when he is starfishing, but you can't sit on top of him or not.
	You could be on top.
	And he's not doing anything, but he does have a heart on it.
	Can you climax?
	The guy is just laying there.
	Why not?
	Well, I'm just asking you to get away from that.
	I mean, in Cambodia, maybe it takes more time.
	I mean, women's orgasm response is pretty varied, but like, could you?
	You can't rub your clit.
	He's not rubbing your clit.
	No, he just has, he has an erection.
	And he's just, he's not thrusting or moving.
	Can you get yourself off?
	Some women can, but can you get yourself off?
	I'm confusing what's happening.
	If the dude is a sex doll could you just like do all the work So, okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Here's the scenario.
	Either he's laying down, so you would be on top, or he's standing up and you'd be in like doggy or something.
	But he's not thrusting.
	He's not moving at all.
	He's just got a stiffy.
	Can you get yourself off?
	It's inside of me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	But you said you cannot touch yourself.
	Can't rub your clit.
	Then I don't think so.
	Okay.
	Yes, if there's eye contact.
	Okay.
	That's really important.
	I'll allow it.
	I'll allow the eye contact.
	I mean, it would be really hard to do it.
	Okay.
	To be honest.
	What about you?
	No.
	Can I skip it?
	Sure, I guess Maddie, if you want to.
	But I feel like I agree that you probably.
	But also, sex is about chemistry.
	So, like, if there's no chemistry and the dude isn't putting in effort, I'm not turned on by that.
	Like, that's just, like, you know?
	I guess the reason I ask this question is that women have a, I guess, not always, but have a more complex sexual response here.
	So some women can't come from penetrative sex.
	Some women have more difficulty than others when it comes to climaxing.
	And then some be like coming like 20 times in a row within 10 seconds each, you know?
	Yeah.
	Why are you shaking your head like that?
	Okay.
	So where am I going with this?
	You were saying how like it's hard or it's not that hard for a girl.
	I think the point I'm trying to make is women will care far more about sexual performance and like project this on men to some degree because as a guy, you could lay there.
	You could just be in doggy position and not moving at all.
	And like 99% of men can climax that way.
	I don't even know if it's 50% of women who could climax without the guy just having a stiffy.
	Am I making sense here?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	It's definitely more complex for women.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that just like anatomy?
	Yeah, I mean, that's biological, though.
	That's just, yeah, that's just anatomy.
	But yeah.
	Cool.
	Anyways, there's more important things.
	But I guess this all stems from like, well, a woman who's had more sexual partners, she's going to be better in bed, more experienced.
	One, I'm not sure if that's even true because, like we already said, she could have had one or two long-term boyfriends, had plenty of sexual experience.
	But then the other thing is, I'm not sure if guys really even care.
	Like, what are you going to, like, I don't know.
	It's not this complicated procedure.
	You know what I mean?
	You just get doggy style, archer back, you're good.
	That's it.
	But still, you don't want to have someone in bed who is like really bad.
	What do you mean?
	Hold on, ladies, this is all like, look, there's varying degrees.
	Ladies, this is all you got to do.
	Get in doggy position, arch her back.
	That's fucking it.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	That's please.
	No, but that's all you got to do.
	And the guy will have great sex.
	Yeah, but that's a one-sided thing because, like, I'm sitting there bored.
	Like, you're not doing that.
	Oh, well, okay.
	But you, but the argument here is, doesn't a guy care about a woman's experience so that she can give him good sex?
	Right?
	That's the argument.
	I feel like a lot of guys don't care.
	They just want to get off.
	Well, I want my girl to come like 50 times.
	Well, like, a lot of guys don't feel that way, I feel like.
	I feel like that's what I'm saying.
	Here's my rule.
	She's got to come before me.
	Preferably more than once if she can do that.
	But not all girls can do that shit.
	I don't know.
	I feel like a lot of dudes don't care to be audio.
	I'm just kidding.
	Well, yeah.
	You mean like guys can come multiple times?
	Girl should.
	That's right.
	Maybe you didn't make her come multiple times.
	Like satisfy her?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean.
	I'm just kidding, though.
	Oh, I mean, I'm not offended or anything.
	I'm just saying.
	I mean, women, it's crazy, though.
	Women have really varied orgasm response.
	Like, really varied.
	Some women, they can maybe come one time.
	That's it.
	And it's going to take you 30 minutes with a lot of work.
	Other women, what would be the equivalent of a two-pump chump?
	Two-pump chomp.
	What is that?
	Bro, some women have ins you penetrate and they've already started coming.
	Is that real?
	One penetrate squirt?
	That's real.
	I feel like that would only happen if you like didn't have sex for like 10 years and you were just like so horny.
	Okay, so I don't know, Jake, if you've encountered this.
	I don't know if you're you know.
	No, but like what if they were pretending?
	No, there's evidence.
	There's evidence.
	But that's so much more rare than the same.
	It is relatively more rare, but like there are women who they'll come within five seconds and then they'll come again ten seconds later, ten seconds later, ten seconds later, ten seconds later.
	That sounds like a curse.
	That sounds horrible.
	I've encountered a few.
	Uh-oh, whoa, shit.
	I've given Intel on my body count.
	Exposed, high body count, low value.
	Exposed.
	What's your body count?
	What's your body count?
	Here comes the hole.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm just kidding.
	I am a virgin.
	Oh, yeah.
	Just kidding.
	Let's see.
	You guys haven't heard about this?
	Jake, have you?
	That's like a curse.
	I would hate that.
	Because you can't enjoy it.
	No, they don't hate it.
	But it would hurt after a while.
	Like if you came so many times in a row, that would hurt after a while.
	They get used to it.
	Okay.
	Whatever you say.
	Okay, let's see.
	We, uh...
	Oh, we have some reacts, possibly, do we?
	Oh, let me read a couple chats first.
	Let's see here.
	I'll pull that back up, Dayvon.
	Good timing, man.
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	Maddie, can you read it?
	As a man, if you need a woman to do flips on it, you watch entirely too much prawn.
	Simply being fit, what, enthusiastic, and vocal will get most men off.
	It's extremely difficult to turn a man off.
	100%.
	True.
	Pussies kind of like pizza.
	Oh, God.
	It's different for you.
	Even bad pizza is still good.
	Pizza?
	Wait, what the fuck does this say?
	How does the saying go?
	I don't know what kind of like pussy you've been, gang Desmond, but I don't think I've like.
	Have you ever had a 7-Eleven pizza?
	7-Eleven pizza?
	Wait, hold on.
	It's bad.
	Have I had bad sex?
	Yeah.
	There is such thing, but like rare.
	So you have, though.
	But it was more so because she, like, not because of the pussy.
	It was because she was just kind of being annoying.
	Yeah.
	She was like, is it in you?
	No, I'm kidding.
	Yeah.
	It's an attitude thing, I think.
	I wrote that.
	It's normally an attitude thing.
	It definitely is.
	Wait, let me find my notes about the pizza.
	Well, then why would you have sex if, like, the attitude is so bad?
	You don't?
	Sometimes you don't find out until it's too late.
	What?
	That makes no sense.
	You would know that before.
	Like, why is she giving attitude during it?
	That'd be kind of funny, though, to be honest.
	Oh, here's the saying.
	Okay, this is how the saying goes.
	Sex is a lot like pizza.
	When it's good, it's great.
	When it's bad, it's still pretty good.
	For guys.
	For girls, it's horrible.
	If the sex is bad.
	Get away from it.
	This is for guys.
	Yeah, for girls, if the sex is bad, that shit's bad.
	It's horrible.
	It's like, is this over yet?
	Wait, Jake, have you ever faked a Morgan?
	No.
	I've never faked it.
	No, I couldn't.
	How would you fake it?
	You just spray lotion.
	I was like, wait, hold on.
	You could have a condom on and pretend.
	Yeah.
	But when she sees it in there.
	I don't know.
	You can hide it.
	Just like throw it away real quick.
	Something like that.
	The girls who say they're really good in bed.
	Whenever I hear a girl say it, I'm like, what are you doing that's so different?
	What are you doing that's so special?
	Maybe there is someone who's just incredible out there, but it's not going to be that different.
	Does it make you want to find out or like a turn off?
	I don't really care.
	I actually don't hear, I don't hear girls saying, I'm really good at sex.
	It's always about the BJ.
	That's probably the thing that really does vary.
	That's the one thing that is gradients to that.
	Yeah, you gotta have experience to give a good BJ.
	But you could have got that experience from one guy.
	Yeah, you can learn.
	It's quite easy to learn.
	It depends what size of the dick is.
	Not all BJs are creative.
	Hail and well met.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.02.
	She was being annoying.
	Did you have to cover her mouth up to get her to stop talking, Brixon?
	I know that feeling.
	I don't even remember what it was.
	The pussy was still good.
	It was just, you know, she was kind of annoying.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, right before she had sex, she was like at my place, and she's like, did you not put the seat down for me?
	I was like, what the fuck?
	You know what I mean?
	Well, then why would you like have sex with her?
	That's not a good idea.
	I'm not going to let the toilet seat get between me and some pussy, son.
	You think I'm going to let a toilet seat conversation?
	I'm going to grip my teeth.
	I'm going to grit my teeth and get the pussy.
	If a dude pissed me off that bad, I would not have sex with him.
	It was my place.
	I left the toilet seat up.
	She's like, oh, that's very rude of you in your own place to not put the toilet seat down for me.
	I was like, oh my god.
	Let's have a look.
	So she wasn't annoyed.
	She was just made like one comment and you're like, total bitch.
	Oh, are you not familiar with this podcast?
	It gets annoyed.
	I get easily triggered.
	I get triggered.
	I'm a snowflake.
	That is true.
	I'm a woke snowflake.
	Let's see.
	Okay, let's get into.
	We got to get to the notes finally.
	But first, Madison, do the favors.
	Stiffler asks: ask everyone to rate their looks total/slash face slash body on a scale of one to ten.
	You can't pick seven.
	Hail and well met.
	We'll get right to that.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.02.
	Desiree was just telling a story about a toilet seat two.
	Oh, Lol Paladins.
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	No, not that kind of story, but yeah.
	Anyways, so Stiffler, starting with you.
	I have to rate my looks, my total face and body, but I can't say seven.
	Yeah.
	So I have to give three scores or all in total?
	Three.
	Hmm.
	Not sure.
	Eight.
	Six.
	So total.
	Can I say six and a half?
	Oh, so you're saying eight for face, six for body.
	So it'd be seven.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's still seven.
	I suppose that's fine.
	What about you?
	Could I just do one for the overall average?
	Sure.
	I have to grade every single thing.
	Well, what do you do total?
	I would say maybe like an eight.
	Okay, and then face body.
	That's that one.
	That's one category?
	Well, separate.
	So, okay, face.
	I feel like I need a mirror to look at myself in the face now.
	We'll just say eights all around.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think six and a half, six.
	Okay.
	Yeah, for everything.
	Okay.
	I'll just do an eight in total.
	Ten body, six face.
	Eight.
	Alright.
	I think for my face, um, an eight body, I would say maybe like a four because I'm just small.
	And yeah, but the total, what would that be?
	Your ranking is because you're small?
	Yeah, like I'm not like Kirby.
	Oh, you know?
	Well, I think a lot of guys like petite women, so yeah, that's tasty.
	I'm Latina, so a lot of like the guys, you know, back at home, they prefer like when you say back at home, do you mean like Mexico?
	Bakersfield.
	No, oh shit, my bad, my bad.
	Imagine like, I thought she said back at home.
	No, uh, Bakersfield.
	What's going on?
	What well, like, so you're saying like the people I surround myself out there are usually Latinos too.
	And they like a thick, yeah, like they like a bordita.
	Wait, what are they?
	What's a badger?
	They call them pandulce, actually.
	What's the term for like tortas?
	Tortas.
	They like tortas.
	Okay, no, because that's like bigger.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	They like curvy.
	Yeah, like they like curvy.
	They like a thicky Latina woman.
	Yeah.
	That's in Bakersfield.
	What about here in Santa Barbara?
	What are they like?
	Still thick, thicky?
	Santa Barbara.
	Santa Barbara.
	That's a lot.
	Surfer boys.
	Yeah.
	White boy, surfer boy, skater boy.
	No, I definitely think people here are a lot more like they don't really care about the body as much.
	But erroneous!
	Erroneous.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Since I do go to UCSB, and like you said, when you were younger, you'd go out, like no one, like, I don't know.
	No one cares.
	Like, everyone here is just like trying to do things.
	you know when you say nobody cares like no one cares how you look Oh, they're just trying to hit.
	Yeah.
	Is that a good thing or?
	No, that's a bad thing.
	But it's like they don't care how you look and they want to fuck, or they do care how you look and they still want to fuck.
	So wouldn't it be better that they, if that's what they want, wouldn't it be better they don't care what you look like?
	Because then you can.
	I don't know where I'm going.
	Yeah, because then they have a higher body count if they don't care.
	I feel like most of them are.
	They're still fucking no matter what.
	But they're equal opportunity dick slayers.
	Like they'll still hit.
	Right?
	You think that's better?
	But if that's what the girls are after too, isn't it good for the girl to I don't know why I have to.
	I mean if the girl's after it then I'm yeah I guess it's better but like I feel like the guys don't care.
	The guys don't care about the girls too.
	About looks?
	Hmm.
	That's actually a very astute observation Madison.
	Well well, put like even just like interviewing, walking around, I see, like see what like guys with really ugly girls not to like be like not a girl's girl.
	But wait Maddie, do you remember that first night we went out and like this might come off as like kind of sus or whatever, but I was like I was like there were a lot of good looking dudes.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying they're.
	They're a lot of good looking dudes.
	I'm like girls dude, that's what I'm saying.
	The guys don't care out here.
	Well, that that's the thing because like, I feel like with girls they're like, well, if I'm gonna hook up, he better be really fucking hot.
	He better be hot.
	Yeah, but like for guys, it's like I'm trying to get it.
	He said pussy's pussy.
	You know what I mean?
	You guys just don't care.
	I mean, that's it's true.
	It's true.
	Wait, okay, so rating, anyways.
	I think you said four body?
	Really?
	Four from for the body, but eight for the face.
	So I don't know.
	Six, I guess, average.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I do.
	M-Dog.
	Six, face, eight, body, total, seven.
	Even though we can't pick seven, that's just Jake Ramsay.
	Six is all around.
	Six is all around.
	Why dog?
	I've never been called that.
	Yeah, probably just six all around.
	Oh, okay.
	I give myself shit.
	Hold on.
	Total five.
	Oh, the math's not going to math here.
	Face five, body, four.
	I got a dad bot.
	I got to lose the dad bot boys.
	You're almost down to a four, bro.
	What's that?
	I know, dude.
	That's bad.
	Body shame me, dude.
	Yeah, it's a 4.5.
	You were a six once upon a time.
	I was once a six, now I'm downgraded.
	Do you turn it around for that with the camera?
	The dumpy?
	Yeah, they keep asking to see it.
	Never, never.
	But, anyways.
	Oh, and related to this question, thank you, Stiffler.
	Also, really quick, normally we don't read these, but Brian, God made, just because I read it, I thought it was interesting.
	God made it where women don't need to get off to reproduce.
	So if God doesn't care, why should we?
	I just thought I was below the threshold, but thought it was funny.
	Maybe that.
	What do you guys think about that?
	Even God doesn't care.
	Okay, all right.
	It's just kind of an asshole comment, whatever.
	He's an asshole.
	So going around the table, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Better looking in 10 years' time.
	Potentially.
	Have more money.
	I could get Botox, plastic surgery, I could get bigger boobs.
	You don't necessarily want to, but like.
	If you, let's say you didn't get any of that, though.
	Do you think you, in 10 years' time, so you're 27?
	At 37, will you be better looking?
	No.
	Okay.
	Maybe 25.
	And then you're 27 now.
	Are you better looking now at 27 than you were at 18?
	I think so, yes.
	I was a very late bloomer.
	Okay.
	And then I would actually argue, though, I'm not even sure.
	No, no, I guess when it comes to you being 37, and you said, well, at 37, I could get like, if I had money, I could get plastic surgery and Botox.
	I'm not even sure, like, 37 you without plastic surgery versus 37 you with plastic surgery.
	Maybe this is just my own aesthetic taste.
	I think you'd be better looking at 37 without the plastic surgery than with it.
	And this applies for any woman who has plastic surgery.
	You've seen like Cher, who's like 70, and she has like the most insane amount of plastic surgery and she looks like not even a real human being.
	It's like so scary.
	I have not seen Cher recently, but I'll take terrifying.
	That looks kind of creepy.
	The only thing that I actually will concede on when it comes to plastic surgery, making a woman more attractive, is nose job.
	I've seen some of these like transformation videos.
	It's actually quite astounding, like what your nose does to your facial aesthetics.
	But that's different though, because a nose job can make your nose look like a normal nose, whereas all these other procedures, like lip filler, you can tell.
	Botox, you can tell.
	Maybe not always, but you can tell.
	Fake tits, you can tell.
	BBL, you can tell.
	Lipo, you can tell.
	You know?
	So, I don't know.
	Maybe I just don't like the fake.
	You could also just get like better skincare treatments.
	But assuming your skin, like your skincare is just as good at 27 as it is at 37, you'd agree that you are not going to be, not you, but like people in general are not going to be as good looking due to aging in 10 years' time.
	No, because if you're like working out and like staying fit and maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle, you could be more beautiful.
	if you had that at your current age though?
	As long as you're continuing that.
	Well, let me ask you a question on the fitness thing.
	So you're 27.
	I mean, I haven't really looked at you all that much, but I mean, you seem like you have a healthy body fat percentage, whatever.
	I mean, do you think there are such significant things you can do when it comes to your fitness that you would be more attractive at 37 than you are now at 27?
	Maybe not super significantly, but I could just work out more.
	Sure.
	Going around the table, better looking in 10 years' time?
	If I manage to lose weights, I think I might have a shot at looking better.
	All right.
	What about 20 years' time, 51?
	Do you think you'll be better looking?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	And then are you better looking now at 31 than you were at 21?
	No, because I gained weight.
	At 21, you were better looking, okay.
	Maybe 25, 27 was my best age.
	Yes.
	And then for you, 31, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Absolutely not.
	And then were you better looking at 21 as compared to now at 31?
	My peak was 27, so I was closer to what I'm now.
	So you are better looking now at 31?
	Than when I was 21, yeah.
	At 21.
	Do you have photos?
	Of like young people?
	Glossy.
	Glossy?
	Glossy.
	Glosska.
	Glosska?
	Yeah.
	Okay, well.
	Selena, you're 19.
	Better looking in 10 years' time?
	No.
	Okay.
	Better looking at 29 versus now at 19?
	Yes.
	In Bakersfield or in.
	No, hopefully by that time I'm already, you know.
	Thick up a bit at 29, so all the Bakersfield methods.
	No, I just, well, I'm assuming at that time I'd probably already have like started a family.
	So fitness mom.
	So I think I'm cute.
	Should we show the picture of young Jake?
	I could get it up.
	Show it.
	Is it on your Instagram or do you have to like email it to us or something?
	If you scroll down, I've seen like the transformation one.
	Yeah, can you pull up his Instagram?
	Also pull up mine.
	We gotta see young Brian here.
	Jake, what's your Instagram?
	Jake Rattle S-N-K.
	Also, guys, while you're at it, like the video.
	Please like the video.
	And you gotta like the video.
	We are doing a sort of essentially a fundraiser for our good friend Mason who's been on the show.
	If you're just tuning in, he was in a very serious motorcycle accident a couple days ago.
	He's still in the hospital.
	He's looking like he's recovering, but things are, you know, I don't know the full details, but he's still in the hospital.
	In any case, six days later, six, seven days later.
	So 50% of all fan funding from tonight's stream are going to go towards Mason's medical expenses, Super Chats, TTS, Twitch subs, Streamlabs, messages.
	50% of all fan funding will go to Mason's medical expenses.
	Read 100, TTS200.
	Were you able to find it, Austin?
	Yeah, we're just going down to find it.
	Okay.
	Sounds, sounds good.
	Sounds good.
	Any let's see.
	Oh, here I'll read this while we're trying to find it.
	Old man Maureen.
	Maddie, could you read it?
	Gabby, seven.
	Redhead, five.
	Glowstick, four.
	Pink top three.
	Ruby, six.
	Maddie, seven point five.
	Tell your sister I said hi.
	What the hell?
	Blue Top L 8.5.
	Your eyebrow gain.
	What is it?
	Sorry.
	Oh, I'll pull it back up.
	My sisters are taken.
	8.5, your eyebrow rating?
	They're real.
	I don't fill them in or anything.
	Oh, alright.
	You've got good eyebrows.
	Get well soon, Mason.
	Thank you, Old Man Maureen.
	Really good to see you back in the chat.
	What's up?
	All right, let's see it.
	Jake.
	Look at that fucking giga chat on the left.
	Look at this guy.
	This guy pounding back some brews.
	Yeah, that was my 19th birthday.
	On the left, yeah.
	Damn.
	Oh my goodness.
	And he's got 110 kilos.
	What is that in like pounds?
	10 pounds.
	I've got no idea.
	I don't really know how to kill you.
	Isn't it like about double?
	Yeah, I think it's maybe a bit more than double.
	Yeah.
	something like that you're wait you how many kilos About 110.
	So you were like probably 230?
	Yeah.
	220, 230?
	It's about double.
	We'll just see.
	Damn, that's about what.
	That is crazy.
	Yeah.
	Also, we're going to do the reverse transformation.
	Pull up my Instagram, and we'll see how much of a fat sack of shit I've become.
	Pull up young Brian.
	We gotta get young Brian.
	Let's look at Brian's transformation.
	All right, let's scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Let's see it.
	We got, I don't think I have any shirtless.
	I got some.
	I got the tank top photo.
	Look at.
	I got surf photos.
	Look at that.
	The karate photos.
	Take it easy.
	Oh, damn.
	Yeah, yellow.
	Wait, say it again.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'll say it with the camera.
	Say it.
	Go ahead.
	It's like, that's you?
	I didn't recognize you, sorry, man.
	Sorry.
	That should be some motivation.
	Pull it, pull it back up.
	Pull it back up.
	Pull it back up.
	Look at the karate photos.
	Who's that shit?
	That's me.
	I was like 12 years old.
	Pull up the karate photos.
	Pull up the first one.
	Can you still do the poses?
	This was photo day at the karate dojo, okay?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Look at this.
	Peaked in the scroll down.
	Sorry, next one?
	Over?
	Look at that fucking alpha aesthetic.
	Hold on, look at this shit, boys.
	You see that shit?
	Hands are the same.
	You see that shit, boys?
	Okay, and then come back.
	Go back.
	Exile that.
	Let's see the surf one, the surf ones.
	Click on the one where I'm putting on my wetsuit.
	This was on Wiki.
	Now I got a belly, dude.
	There's no belly there.
	Too much beer?
	No, not too much beer.
	Too much in and out.
	Oreos.
	I don't drink.
	Wait, actually, hold on.
	Wait, X out one more.
	I gotta see one more.
	You just gotta eat the protein style in and out, and then you're still.
	Probably.
	Probably.
	Yeah, young Brian.
	Scroll up, scroll up.
	That's me with the dung.
	Wait, what the fuck was that?
	It does.
	Let's see.
	What about the, okay, pull up the angel one.
	Angel one?
	There you go.
	Look at that.
	Little flat tummy there.
	Flat tummy.
	Halloween costume.
	Yeah, well, originally, so this is like a little prank video I did.
	It's supposed to be a chick in this costume.
	So it's like a fucking extra small for a woman.
	But she flaked on the day of the shoot.
	So I was like, fuck it, I'll do it.
	There's going to be like this angel devil thing.
	Anyways, you know, like the whole, the, the trope of the angel devil on the shoulder thing.
	So that was kind of, anyways.
	Wait.
	Wrath PSA says, hands like lethal weapons.
	Bro, you don't even fucking know.
	I was a fucking menace in that karate dojo, bro.
	Just kidding.
	I did a bit of sparring.
	Anyways, where were we?
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	Let's see.
	Actually, Selena.
	I think, I don't know if you said it on the last show.
	Is it?
	I had a different story last time.
	What was a different story?
	It was when the dude dropped me off on the highway.
	Oh, it wasn't going to be that.
	I think it was like, didn't you say that your dad supports the porn stuff?
	He supports me as a person.
	Like, he would obviously rather me do a different job.
	Okay.
	Like, I'm his daughter.
	He loves me.
	I'm like, you know, we have a good relationship.
	Okay.
	And then, is there something about like toy dolls or something?
	I mean, I do collect reborn dolls, yeah.
	What is it called?
	Reborn dolls?
	Reborn dolls.
	Yes.
	Is it like this shit?
	Babies that look real.
	Like so sometimes when- Oh, sorry.
	I thought you were Morgan.
	My bad.
	Don't do my girl Morgan like that.
	You got the chocolate one.
	That's for Madison.
	Madison, this one's for you.
	And then you get the, damn, this one's all fucked up.
	Here you go.
	There you go.
	That's for you, Selena.
	Perfect.
	Why do you have these?
	Yeah, like, why do you have?
	He also collects.
	It's a segment.
	Is this from the ARC?
	Look at it.
	It's like dirty.
	Oh, that baby has been through a lot.
	I used it in prank videos.
	I did this flyaway baby prank.
	I did some other old years ago.
	Anyways, so that's the, you're holding a baby that's had like millions and millions of views.
	Just letting you know.
	like a celeb.
	It's a celebrity.
	Wow, that's...
	Just post it up with me, you know?
	Just it has your eyes, I guess.
	Or something.
	This guy is wrong.
	So you collect toy dolls?
	Like, are they just all in your room?
	Honestly, no.
	Like, honestly, when I was growing up, I always had dolls, and I've kept some of them over the years.
	But most of the time, now I am very interested in, like, the reborn dolls.
	I think the artist put a lot of work into them.
	I haven't bought one in a while.
	Like, it used to be a hobby of mine when I was like 16.
	I haven't bought one in probably a year.
	I'll take it back, by the way.
	Just, I don't know.
	So, um.
	So, uh.
	Oh, have you ever done any escorting?
	Um, I don't talk about that stuff online.
	Okay.
	Anyways, uh, moving on in my notes here.
	What about sorry?
	Oh, no.
	Okay, I mean, it's all right.
	She's not doing anything terrible.
	Okay.
	Let's go to, let's get to your gaming streamer, only fans in a maid.
	I didn't know about the maid thing.
	Yeah, I kind of quit that now.
	Do you charge for it, or is it like a, I don't know, like is it one of those maid things where you like dress up in a, like.
	No, like I was kind of like, it was kind of like an au pair job when I lived in Norway, but I recently moved back to New Orleans, so kind of quit that, yeah.
	Here, Maddie, I'll take.
	I'll take it.
	now.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait.
	Wait, you live in Amsterdam currently?
	Or in the Netherlands?
	Because it says here, aren't you in Norway or something?
	Two weeks ago I moved to the Netherlands.
	Oh, okay.
	So this is from a while ago then.
	Let's see.
	I don't know if we fully had it, but the big thing you wanted to come on and talk about was the body count thing.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	We sort of touched on it.
	Going around the table before we get into it.
	Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	No.
	Not, okay, you're fine with it?
	What do you think?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	Can you, yeah, can you say it differently?
	Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	And I think, I mean, you kind of already answered.
	You said yes.
	Yeah, I was just confused by that.
	Okay.
	Selena, what do you think?
	What was the question?
	Are men insecure about their own body count?
	No, about caring about a woman's body count.
	I mean, it's just a preference.
	I don't think it's insecurity, to be honest.
	It's more of like a preference-like thing.
	Sure.
	Ruby?
	No.
	No.
	I don't think it's insecure because I would care about someone else's body count because of standard reasons.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Let's see then.
	Oh, you already said body count, Selena.
	We'll just do body count then, I guess.
	Oh, like in total?
	Yeah, what's your body count?
	I don't know.
	What was it last time?
	I'm pretty sure I feel like I said the same thing.
	Because I literally don't know.
	And then you asked me bodies and porn versus in real life, and I still don't know.
	Right.
	Way less, though.
	You don't need to give us an exact number, but it's like over 50, over 100.
	Not more than 100.
	No.
	Stop the cap.
	Selena.
	It's not more than 100.
	I thought we were homies.
	How are you going to lie?
	How are you going to lie?
	Why are you not lying, Selena?
	Okay, 100 is a lot.
	Right.
	It's not more than 100.
	99.
	99.
	I mean, like, just in personal life?
	In personal life, probably, like, I don't know.
	Like, I don't know.
	Word.
	Wait, probably less than 50 in real life.
	And then what about like in porn life?
	Working with.
	Probably.
	Like, do females count?
	Give us your male count and your female count.
	Female count in porn is like less, probably, like, I think maybe like seven.
	Seven.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Because like I mostly do like stuff with guys for my job.
	And then what's the, yeah, so what's the male count then?
	Um, I don't know.
	More than 50.
	I think you said.
	In scenes, no.
	Well, total.
	I meant there's more than 50.
	Total, yeah, I guess.
	What about you?
	Nine.
	I'm also eight or nine.
	Ruby.
	I don't want to give an exact number, only because I know people.
	I know like some of my friends are going to watch this, but definitely less than five.
	Okay.
	Jake?
	Voice crack.
	Jake?
	Between me and the man upstairs.
	Yayel.
	I'm about to sneeze.
	Sneeze the body count number.
	No, it went away.
	I already said that.
	Like two.
	Only.
	Yeah, only two.
	Wait, is that what you said last time?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't share my body count.
	Sorry.
	Of course, y'all are going to say that, but then make us answer and be all like, oh, what's the exact number?
	Sucko.
	What?
	What is that?
	Like, keep it real.
	Keep it real.
	You want me to keep it real?
	You keep it real.
	I keep it real.
	But you just said you don't want to answer.
	I'm keeping it real.
	That's not real.
	That's like the opposite of real.
	That's super real.
	I don't want to answer.
	Have you ever answered on one of your podcasts?
	No.
	Oh.
	I've not.
	Like, but I'm not keeping it real.
	But I feel like the viewers can, like, maybe figure out a minimum.
	Who've been watching a long time?
	They can figure out a minimum based on like certain details.
	So what you're doing.
	Like, he's had this many relationships.
	Here's these girls.
	He's encountered like these kind of girls.
	Even from this conversation tonight, when I told y'all I've encountered certain types of women, y'all can probably figure it out from there.
	You're just telling us you're a slut list.
	No, no.
	What if we guess the range?
	Listen, I am not going to answer this question.
	So, Glossky, body count, you had really strong opinions on it.
	What you got?
	What you got for us?
	My body count?
	Yeah.
	I already answered that.
	I feel like you had more opinions.
	More opinions.
	On the body count conversation.
	On a body count.
	Oh, okay.
	I think I said everything about it that I wanted to say.
	I'm just kind of like, I have a lot to think about when I go home because this whole perspective is crazy to me.
	So what's crazy about it?
	That it means so much to you and that you view it as this thing.
	And I don't, so it's like, it's fascinating.
	Because we're human and, I mean, it's...
	Don't you think people are pair-bonded for the longest time and generally speaking around the world that's the norm is that people, for the most part, get married when they're virgins in most cultures around the world?
	Probably, yeah.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, so that's actually the norm, what we're saying.
	This is an anomaly.
	No, there is no norm.
	I don't think there's a good or bad.
	I just like to hear your perspective on it.
	Because I thought that Americans and Europeans were quite the same.
	But yeah, it's wild.
	Well, I mean, just depends who you speak to, really.
	But it's definitely an anomaly in the world, how liberal Western culture is with sex.
	It's very, very taboo and frowned upon in most other places in the world.
	Yeah, I can understand that.
	Any religious community, it's very frowned upon.
	And most people in the world are religious.
	All the Muslims, all the Christians.
	Except for the Colombians.
	They're religious, but they just throw around.
	You been to Columbia, Jake?
	I have.
	Going back in a few weeks.
	Interesting.
	Nice.
	Wait, but you were starting to say, but we're people.
	What do you mean by that?
	Like, I feel like we're kind of like...
	Like judging?
	judging is that kind of no i mean like we're like i say like we're the same ish as in i can speak english to you understand what i'm saying So it's kind of like, we can understand each other, but we've grown up so differently that we have such different perspectives on something that's like, it's so different.
	Is that kind of what you mean?
	It's the complete opposite.
	That's just very fascinating.
	I don't really understand.
	It's like agreed and disagree kind of thing.
	But I mean, like, just because we speak the same language, I mean, even in, I mean, for example, politics, right?
	Even in the Netherlands, there's more conservative politicians, there's super liberal politicians, but they speak the same language.
	So I'm just, I'm not, I'm a little confused by the, well, we speak the same language, thus we must have.
	I don't agree too much into it.
	What I'm trying to say is we're just kind of, we're the same, we're vibing.
	Most of us are, yeah, it's nice, and we get to meet each other.
	So it's like, there's a lot of the same things, and we view the world in a lot of the same ways.
	And I thought we were kind of grown up in the same ways.
	And now it turns out that there's a few things that are completely opposite.
	So this is just a completely alien perspective to you that people should be more conservative.
	I mean, I only heard it on the podcast.
	I've never heard that before.
	That's not something that was familiar to you at all.
	The people lived on the ground.
	Only on TV.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Do you think that it's a positive thing when people pair bond and when people have families?
	When people what?
	Pair bond, when people have families and they get together and they have long relationships and marriages and families.
	That's important.
	Positive thing?
	A positive thing.
	Yeah, I guess so, if that's what you want to do in life.
	What do you think would happen if everyone stopped doing that?
	That would be kind of screwed, but also times change, so who knows if that will ever happen.
	If just hypothetically, if that happened tomorrow and everyone stopped pair bonding and everyone stopped being, then the males and females stopped being attracted to each other and just went away.
	Or on the flip side, if everyone was just having sex and not being in relationships, not having families, not having kids, what do you think would happen to society?
	Well, it shouldn't be the one extreme or the other extreme.
	But within the hypothetical, what do you think would happen?
	We would be effed.
	So then, with that in mind, and when you think about what makes a healthy society, which is nuclear family.
	You need both.
	Why do you need promiscuity?
	Because you need something of everything.
	Why?
	Why do you need that?
	There's people who want to stay single and just...
	I know people want to, but why do you need it?
	We're talking about this is more of a conversation about duties and about what makes a healthy society rather than what we want, what our desires are.
	Why do you need promiscuity in a society?
	Because you need something out of everything.
	Why?
	People are different.
	Why do you need it?
	Not everyone matches together.
	I know, but just is there a reason why?
	Because I gave you my reason why we need family because that makes a healthy society, healthy communities.
	We need to maintain our birth rate.
	We need to proliferate as a species.
	Why do we need promiscuity?
	Because we're human and we've been doing this since the beginning of time and it would be bad if that would not be a thing anymore.
	Do you think it would be bad if people got together young and they pair bonded and they had kids and families and they weren't sleeping around and there were no STDs and there were no abortions and there were no single mothers and criminals coming from single mother households and people on welfare?
	Do you think that it would be bad if those things were taken away?
	It's two extremes.
	I do think you need like a healthy mix of the both of them to make things work.
	Yeah, it's just funny because you can't really give a reason why though.
	Because you're just saying just we need it because we need it.
	Without much of a reason.
	Yeah, because people are different.
	If everyone was the same and wanted the same thing, that would not really be a good thing.
	But yeah, I think you're more talking about what we want.
	So people want to have lots of sex and there are people that want to have lots of sex and I think most men out there want to have a lot of sex.
	But what we want and what we need are two different things.
	We need a stable society in order to move forward, in order to have future generations.
	People who think and act differently.
	I would say that it's good if everyone is not.
	There are many different aspects of life, for example, people's creativity.
	We need creative people and we need more orderly people, more structured people.
	That is a positive way that we can have diversity in the world.
	But in terms of this, it's very easy to see the fruits of a society that is very promiscuous, when they have very low birth rates and when they have high rates of disease and single mothers and products of single mothers.
	These are extremes, what you're saying right now.
	But this happens.
	This happens.
	It happens right here in America.
	You look at the African-American community, for example.
	75% of kids are born out of wedlock and are in single mother households.
	And then if you look at the statistics of kids who go to single mother households, they're 20 times more likely to end up being criminals, much more likely to end up being on drugs because they don't have a father in the home.
	This is all borne out by statistics.
	So this is what we're talking about.
	I'm not talking about this side of the world.
	I don't know how to land here, but I think in Europe I can say that this works pretty well for us.
	So and I can't see it like what works well.
	If you want to say it like vulgarly, is the promiscuous.
	It works well in Europe.
	Yeah.
	Super, it's actually really nice because it makes dating so much easier.
	Everyone's more relaxed, open-minded.
	It makes it easier.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of cultural decadence in Europe for sure.
	You guys have a birth rate in countries like Holland that's falling off a cliff.
	You guys are going to be replaced because you're not pair bonding over there.
	Probably, but times are changing.
	It's nothing.
	No, times are changing.
	It's going in a really bad direction.
	Like the native population of Holland in 100, 200 years will be replaced by Muslims.
	And why is that a problem?
	Well, don't you have any national identity?
	Don't you have any pride in who you guys are?
	Well, I can only speak for myself.
	And I think that a lot of countries change, a lot of cultures change.
	So if it happens because of certain things that we do, then it happens.
	So you'd be happy for Dutch people to just fade out of existence?
	No, of course not.
	But what if it happened, though?
	What if the Dutch people disappeared?
	That would be very sad.
	Well, it kind of contradicts a little bit what you said before.
	Let me ask you a question related to that.
	It won't be in my lifetime.
	Do you think, so like Japan is a, although this might be changing, Japan is a country that's pretty well known for homogeneity.
	Yeah, homogeneity.
	And they don't want a lot of immigration, I believe, although maybe it's changing.
	Changing a little bit because their birth rates are so low.
	It's actually below one now.
	I guess my question for you is, would you think that there is anything wrong if Japanese people wanted Japan to remain Japanese?
	Like me and Jake, we could move to Japan.
	We can never become Japanese, right?
	But do you think there's anything wrong with a country saying, hey, we want our country to remain our, is it race or ethnicity or I don't know the specific terminology?
	Me personally, I can't actually think of any argument in terms of objecting to Japan wishing to stay Japanese.
	Sure.
	Do you think that's wrong, though?
	I honestly do not care about it.
	I don't have a say in it, so it is what it is.
	Okay.
	By the way, I'm looking here on Twitch.
	We have Burmese Mountain Tiger who's watching.
	Burmese Mountain Tiger.
	Can you write a message in the Twitch chat?
	Because you're a longtime supporter.
	Maybe you're just, it's in the background.
	Maybe you stepped away to do a line of cocaine.
	I don't know what it is.
	Can you just write in the chat?
	I want to see if you're active in the chat, Burmese Mountain Tiger.
	Hey, and well met.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.02.
	Jake, you can't force a love of nation onto a women.
	Women have a biological imperative to breed with stronger men.
	European men are weak cooks.
	She would enjoy being forced to wear the burqa.
	I think that a lot of European men are weak cucks.
	I think that's very true.
	And that's the thing.
	It's so well, because I think if you would ask Europeans, they would say the same thing about you.
	And I think it's really bad.
	I think there has to be some type of understanding, but it's so far apart.
	I don't think we'll ever.
	I think that if you want to have a coherent worldview about that, and when you want to think about the bigger picture and what's best, you have to be able to explain why you think what you think and why it's okay and why it's okay to just go with what we want and what we desire and what makes us feel nice all the time.
	Do you know what I mean?
	I don't explain it right.
	No, I think you just don't really know why you believe that.
	I think it just feels nice.
	That's basically what you say.
	It feels good.
	It doesn't feel good.
	We need to mix, you can't have one without the other.
	That's it.
	I know, but you haven't made it.
	Because it doesn't work.
	What doesn't work?
	What doesn't work?
	Do you think that society didn't function well when people were creating families and getting together?
	Yeah, and there will be people creating families, but there will also be single people that look for other single people.
	But you're saying that it won't work.
	You have to justify that claim.
	Why won't it work?
	I don't know how else to explain it than that there has to be a mix.
	Wait, a mix of what?
	Promiscuity and family structure.
	Yeah, different people with different views.
	I thought she meant mix in terms of culture.
	No, no, no.
	Groups of people.
	No, no, no.
	We got to that because I said that their birth rate is falling off a cliff with the native Dutch people and they're actually going to get replaced in a few hundred years.
	And your country will be Muslim eventually.
	And she was like, oh, I don't really see the problem with that.
	And that's where you came in with Japan.
	That was a kind of meta-conversation.
	But, yeah, I just don't really...
	This is a very new thing, all of this cultural decadence that we're experiencing in the West at the moment where people are just very liberal about it.
	Oh, we can do what we want.
	We can just have all of this sex and we can not pair bond.
	And we're seeing the fruits of that, and it's not good.
	It's not good at all.
	The birth rates are literally falling off a cliff.
	And that's a big problem.
	And women are getting older and older, and they're not marrying, and they're pretty becoming depressed about it.
	Like in America, and I think throughout the Western world as well, the amount of antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications that women are taking is obscene.
	But that doesn't have to do anything with that.
	It actually does because you can correlate it.
	You can correlate women who are single and childless in their 40s with antidepressants.
	What's the rate for men?
	Much lower than women.
	What are the statistics?
	I don't know off the top of my head, but I'm sure we could look it up.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, I think that generally speaking, a man can go his whole life just focusing on a career and be reasonably satisfied.
	It's not optimal, obviously, but if a woman does that, I think that's a recipe for a disaster.
	Just the way that we're biologically, biologically wide.
	Only 40% of men that have ever lived have reproduced.
	RIP's in the chat.
	Do you want to respond to his point or?
	Oh, no, I thought you, no, sorry.
	Sorry, you mumbled something.
	So, okay.
	No, I can't explain it any better than what I already said.
	Maybe I can't bring it across the way I want it, but to me, it makes a lot of sense.
	So, but essentially your position is promiscuity is good.
	And needed.
	It's needed.
	It's needed for women.
	Promiscuity.
	But different types of people with different types of views are needed, yes.
	But okay, so even if we grant that different types of people with different types of views are needed, what does that have?
	Okay, how is promiscuity needed?
	Well, that's kind of how we started.
	Yeah, but what purpose does it serve?
	What purpose does it serve?
	So people can just be their own, and if they want to be more vulgar, then they can.
	Not everybody wants to get locked down.
	Can just be sort of at the whim of their desire.
	They can do what feels nice.
	How do you mean?
	That people can just follow their desires.
	They can just do what feels good.
	If that's a priority for them, yeah.
	Do you think that that's a positive thing, though, to always be attached to your desire rather than your duties and responsibilities?
	It's not me, but I think for a lot of people, if that's what they want to do and that's what makes them happy, you know, not hurting anyone else, it's great.
	But what if you are hurting other people?
	What if the society as a whole, like the bigger picture that I just painted, is affected by all of this?
	Not all women want to be breeding machines and get married, you know.
	What do you mean by a breeding machine?
	Like they don't want to reproduce.
	What makes them a breeding machine if they reproduce?
	It's the primary function of a woman.
	Yeah, well you don't have to.
	I'm not saying that you have to.
	You can unfortunately not do that if you'd really like to.
	But it doesn't make you a breeding machine.
	It just makes you a mother.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	Yeah, it is.
	It is, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I wouldn't call a woman who has children a breeding machine.
	No, it's fair.
	Yeah.
	Maybe I worded it differently.
	Yeah, but I think it's kind of a subconscious thing that comes out sometimes because this is the messaging that young women are fed these days is that if you actually view motherhood and being a wife and having a family as something that's aspirational in itself, then you're subjecting yourself to a lower form of purpose.
	But I don't see that at all.
	If you have children, and if you're a woman who has children, three, four, five children, and you send them out into the world and they're good people, it's like the ultimate responsibility.
	It's difficult to raise good kids.
	And what if you don't want to have kids then?
	Like how is that in your personality?
	I'd say that it's a selfish thing to do.
	I think that we have duties as people.
	One of those duties is to replace our lineage.
	It's a selfish, materialistic thing to do.
	Do you really think that it's bad if you don't want to reproduce?
	100%.
	Yeah, you have duties.
	It's not all about what feels nice in life.
	Okay, yeah.
	Interesting.
	Like, for example, your country is a perfect example.
	You guys are getting replaced.
	And if you guys don't have some white babies, then you're going to be replaced.
	Look, there are quite a lot of people in the Netherlands who do have families and go for all of that.
	But it's going like this, though.
	If you have mass immigration of people from the Middle East and Africa, which is happening in the Netherlands at the moment, and they all breed at a much higher rate than you, three, four kids per woman, and the Netherlands has a birth rate of like 1.2, then what's going to happen is that you're eventually going to be replaced.
	And the Dutch people aren't going to exist anymore.
	It's going to be an offshoot of the Middle East.
	Doesn't that concern you at all?
	No, there's a lot of countries who won't exist anymore in thousands of years.
	We won't exist anymore.
	A country like Holland, it's like one of the best countries in the world.
	You guys have the best farmers in the world.
	One of the most so like the ingenuity in Holland is amazing.
	You guys build those dikes to keep the water out.
	Like you guys are one of the most productive farmers in the whole world.
	That's not going to remain, especially if your government keeps trying to restrict the farmers.
	Don't you think that's a problem?
	Don't you think Holland is good?
	Dutch people should stay around?
	Yeah, Dutch people are awesome.
	I think, yeah, from my perspective, being around, Dutch people are awesome.
	But still, I stand by what I just said.
	That I think that lots of different people with different views are still needed.
	And if that eventually leads to one country dying out, I mean, it's going to happen eventually anyway.
	But then again, I'm a nihilist.
	Yeah, I can tell.
	You're going to go out.
	You're going to go out with a wimp on it.
	so you don't want to have kids then is that sorry you You don't want to have kids?
	Right now, absolutely not.
	Sure.
	I mean, eventually, maybe.
	I don't know.
	It's not something I think about.
	But let's say, so, but eventually.
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	A woman who would be happy if humans stopped existing.
	Should we just go march into the gas chambers to speed it up?
	Thank you, Lol Paladins, for that.
	Man, that's extreme.
	Your response?
	My response, I love paladins, but also that's very extreme.
	Like, that's not at all what I meant to say.
	And if it comes across like that, he's being facetious, but he's making a good point, which is that.
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	Hey, Old Man Maureen, thank you, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Yeah, so Lol Paladins was actually making a good point, which was just to say that why don't we just march ourselves into the gas chambers already?
	What's the point?
	I mean, you did say that you're a nihilist.
	But yeah, it's probably in accordance with your way of thinking.
	Why don't we just die?
	I'd like to actually have that answered.
	Why don't we just die?
	Because we don't.
	I mean, it's a bit common sense.
	That's not what I was trying to say, right?
	We all make the best of it.
	And some people want to have families and they want to have 10 kids.
	Fine.
	Some people don't.
	They just want to sleep with everyone, which is also fine.
	I think we should respect both parties.
	And if eventually that leads to problems in a country, like we deal with it then.
	Humans have always adjusted to any situation of how we sit here right now.
	But do we have to respect them?
	Respect who?
	Jake, maybe you know this term.
	Something about tolerance.
	If you tolerate everything.
	If you tolerate everything, you stand for nothing.
	I think there's some specific term for it.
	Maybe the chat will now chat.
	Something about like the intolerance of tolerance or the tolerating tolerance.
	I don't know exactly what it is.
	It's not clear to me though if everyone's deserving of respect and certain conduct.
	Like I think most, like do you think hookup culture is good?
	I think hookup culture is good.
	Yes.
	A hookup culture as in people just sleeping around?
	Yeah, so essentially promiscuity.
	Is it good?
	Is it good?
	I mean for the teenagers I guess.
	Well, I don't even know if it's good for the teenagers.
	There's a difference between should people be allowed to do something and is it good?
	It doesn't have to be good or bad.
	I think everyone should make the decision for themselves.
	So like as a society, right, I can't imagine the United States is ever going to, for example, criminalize having a casual sexual encounter.
	But as a society, we can still say this is undesirable conduct.
	We should try to move away from it.
	We shouldn't do it.
	And there should be social shame.
	So you said these people still deserve respect.
	Do they though?
	Because if we're not going to criminalize something, the only way that we can enforce like certain social values is through social shame.
	It's shameful to conduct yourself this way.
	So it's not deserving of respect.
	If you're a person, whether male or female, and you go out and you sleep with 10 new people a month, I think that this is worthy of social shame.
	So it comes from a point of keeping something safe.
	What do you mean, keeping something safe?
	Yeah, you're trying to keep...
	Preserve something.
	Yeah, maybe that's the right word to say it.
	Well, you said respect.
	Yeah.
	I don't think you, nobody's owed, like respect is earned, right?
	So.
	So this idea that we need to respect people and their beliefs, I kind of disagree.
	I don't think they are owed respect.
	No, I don't think you should respect everyone.
	I think you should comport yourself in a, yourself, in a respectable manner.
	And it doesn't mean you need to necessarily insult somebody.
	But this idea that we need to respect all beliefs, I think, is erroneous.
	I think there should be instances where there's no conceivable way that a law can be passed to police people's conduct.
	There needs to be social and societal and cultural shame that exists to prevent undesirable conduct in a society.
	Yeah, and it makes a lot of sense with where you're coming from.
	It's very doable as well, because we've done the reverse.
	Since feminism has really come into the frame in Western society, there's been a mass propaganda campaign to indoctrinate young women into this liberal way of thinking.
	And the reverse is actually possible as well.
	It just matters about what kind of propaganda is put out there.
	So it's very doable.
	Interesting.
	All right.
	I'm just glad I don't live here.
	I'm very happy.
	Well, I mean, it's degenerate in the United States, too.
	I would do really bad here.
	I actually think the United States is more degenerate than...
	Oh, I don't know about where they're from.
	The Netherlands.
	I've been to the Netherlands three times.
	I mean, I feel like in Europe, obviously each country is different.
	I actually think in Europe, promiscuity is not nearly as bad as it is in the United States.
	I think that Europe in general, it's not.
	But then you're taking into account Eastern Europe and places like Russia and Ukraine and Hungary and more traditional.
	And then you're also taking into account Turkey, which is a bit more traditional as well.
	But where they're from in Western Europe, it's like very, very degenerate.
	Places like Germany, have you ever heard of the Bergheim?
	I think that's a good question.
	Yes, I love Bergheim.
	It's a lot more less black and white, a lot more nuanced, I think, because I am together with my boyfriend for four years and we're thinking about next steps.
	And we have a lot of friends around us getting children and growing their family.
	So that's also in the Netherlands.
	And then there's also a very free scene.
	Sorry.
	No, just, I know you're giving your own anecdotal experience.
	I don't think Jake is certainly not saying all the women in these countries or all the people in these countries, they're all degenerate.
	Obviously, there's people that conduct themselves in a different way.
	But I mean, to me, Jake's been very liberal.
	Even the Western European countries, I don't think they're as D-Gen and as promiscuous as American women.
	I don't know.
	I think American women are probably the.
	I'm trying to think.
	No, UK is the worst.
	Yeah, England.
	England?
	The UK is the worst.
	UK is the worst.
	And then I'd say probably countries like Germany and Netherlands are pretty bad.
	I think German women are pretty, like, you compare a German woman to an American woman.
	The only reason I say that, though, is because America is still a very Christian country.
	And in the more rural places, you do get like these places are very Christian.
	When you get to the cities, like at Los Angeles and New York and Miami and places like this, they're probably the most degenerate places in the world.
	America still has that Christian core, which I think is like holding the ship up.
	Is it the majority though?
	I feel like the lib agnostic atheist is the majority now in the United States.
	But I mean, I think you look at your average German woman versus your average American woman.
	I'm pretty sure the average American woman is more promiscuous than the average German woman.
	Dude, if you go to Berlin, honestly, it's terrible.
	I feel like European women, and that's obviously very broad in general, seem to conduct themselves a bit more uprightly than their American counterparts.
	I think they're English models.
	I don't know about England.
	You're probably right about England.
	They're probably slags or whatever they call them.
	But may you go out for a night out in Liverpool or Manchester?
	Oh, England's fucked.
	But like continental Europe, I'm pretty sure continental European women, Scandinavia's kind of fucked up.
	Hold on, let me think about it.
	Look, it's very free.
	Why are you so negative about what?
	That people are a bit more free.
	It's kind of free.
	Are you free or are you slave?
	What?
	What?
	That was fucking fair.
	That was some fucking fifth grade tweet.
	fucking Jaden Smith tweet but it's like perfect question But I think it's nice that people are free to experience.
	You mean a slave to your base primal animal urges?
	It depends what you mean by free, though.
	Well, there's less shame if you want to experiment or go to Birkenheim.
	I've never been, but I've heard stories.
	Just for those who don't know, the Bergheim is this club in Berlin where people go and you're not allowed to have your phones on you or anything like that.
	And everyone's dressed up really freaky and they're all having sex in the different rooms.
	And there's a guy who's famous for getting his mouth peed in there.
	He's like, he hangs out.
	I've never been here, by the way.
	What?
	He hangs out in the toilet and he puts his face under and people pee in his mouth.
	This is a real guy.
	And this is what they do.
	But this is the logical conclusion of being free, of people being able to explore whatever they want to do.
	You end up one guy, you said one guy.
	I never heard that story.
	Interesting.
	No, I don't know.
	I think it's good that people can't.
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	Great name, man.
	Really appreciate the message.
	But that's the thing.
	There is also purpose and discipline.
	Because once you go for a relationship, then you can have the commitment that you want.
	Yeah.
	But it's kind of a risk, isn't it?
	Because if you go until you're sort of late 20s, early 30s, and you just do what you want, you're free, you're much less likely to pair bond when you're in your 30s.
	And you're much less likely to have kids as well.
	And if you do have kids after 35, whatever, they're much more likely to have conditions as well.
	So there's a lot of risk involved.
	So you can say that it's good, and it might be fun.
	I'll be the first to admit that it can be fun.
	But is it right?
	Is it what's best for society?
	That's the question.
	For people to be free.
	And also, what is freedom?
	What does it even mean?
	What do you think freedom means?
	Free to suck a dick.
	I'm curious what you mean by freedom.
	And do you think that people actually want to be free?
	Well, I don't know.
	I was just listening to the whole story and I think you were talking about shaming people and body counts and stuff like that.
	And personally, I think, of course, it matters.
	I don't think I would date a guy that has a body count over 100 or 50.
	But if other people don't have a problem with them, that why would you shame them for it?
	Like, we have to look at ourselves and what we want.
	And if I want someone with a low body count, then I look for someone with a low body count.
	And if she enjoys life and has a high body count and doesn't see a problem, then why would we shame her for that?
	Well, because we have to live in the same society as people.
	And we have to create a societal standard.
	And it does affect us.
	People are different.
	I understand that, but I think that people are also reasonably malleable in the way that we conduct ourselves.
	For example, in America, they've got this big thing where you have these transgender people who are reading kids' stories in schools.
	And there's all this indoctrination into this sexual ideology happening in schools in America.
	That's the logical conclusion of freedom.
	Because if you believe in freedom over anything, then why is that wrong?
	You can't really make a case for why that's wrong.
	But if you believe in that that's something that should be, do you believe that that's something that should be stigmatized and shamed?
	There should be rules set in place for that.
	Yeah, I think personally.
	But why?
	Because, Monca TOS, you shouldn't mix children with certain things.
	Why not?
	Well, there's many reasons why you shouldn't do that.
	It's not good for their brains, first of all.
	But you're a nihilist, though, so, like, why...
	I'm not going to get deep into the philosophy with you.
	But thinking about the future, I mean, the kids are, they are the future, right?
	So you can't brainwash them from a young age.
	But that's a whole different topic.
	Like, I don't really know what the deal is.
	Like, I think they want it.
	What if they want to read it?
	What if the storyteller wants to read it?
	What if the kids want to read it?
	The kids want to read it.
	Students think they should ask their parents first.
	Yeah.
	And what if their parents say that's fine, you can go read that book about oral sex at my 11-year-old?
	Should that be okay?
	No, they should be like maybe 14 or something.
	So then you're saying at least there should be some sort of shame and stigma attached to sexuality.
	Some rules set in place, especially when it comes to children.
	Do you think that maybe that's because we don't want the next generation of children who are going to go out into the workforce and going to have families, etc.?
	Because we don't want them to be degenerates?
	Well, you call it degenerate.
	It sounds so negative.
	I just view it as people with different priorities, standpoints, lifestyles.
	There's no good or bad in it.
	Do you think that it's bad to be a serial killer?
	Well, that's common sense.
	Why?
	Because you're hurting other people.
	You said there's no good or bad?
	Well, you're hurting other people, so obviously.
	Do you think it's exceptions?
	But don't you think that if you're one of these people who's reading books to kids, you're also hurting other people?
	No, that depends, because then it's about the parents and the child, right?
	So what they decide to do is best, then they should follow that.
	But what if it hurts the child?
	Well, I hope it won't hurt the child.
	I don't know what they're doing, but reading a book will be a little bit more difficult.
	What if you could quantify it pretty easily and say that children shouldn't be exposed to overly sexual material and that it does hurt children?
	No, it depends on how young they are.
	I mean, they do get such education here in America as well, right?
	But this is not sexual education.
	This is sexual indoctrination of kids.
	And it's happening on a pretty broad scale over here.
	But I think to get to the meat and potatoes of it, it's to say that some things should be shamed in society.
	And it just matters where you draw that line.
	And what we're saying is that the line should be drawn way before where it is at the moment.
	And what you're saying is that people should be able to be free to do whatever they want.
	Our lines are we off.
	But what you're saying is that you don't, if I'm not hurting anybody else, but you are hurting other people because you have to live in the same society as people.
	And then my kids have to go to the same kids as, the same school as your kids.
	And I have to see you guys around.
	And then my kids have to watch these gay pride parades happening in the middle of the street with these naked men with their penises out dancing in front of them.
	That affects me.
	And that's the consequence of liberalism and of this freedom that you guys talk about.
	And perhaps you haven't thought about the logical conclusion of it because in your life you don't do anything.
	I mean, OnlyFans, it's pretty heinous.
	But, you know, perhaps you haven't thought about the logical conclusion of it, but it does affect other people, who you live in the society with.
	I would disagree because Amsterdam is obviously known for the most amazing gay pride.
	And we bring children.
	But it's a different type of introduction.
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	Hey, dude, thank you.
	Good to see you in the chairman.
	Thank you for the message.
	I do got to move things on a little bit here, but that was an interesting little convo.
	I did want to get into more of the pre-show notes here from you.
	So you said you met a guy on Tinder and you let him tattoo your booty on the first date.
	So like what I'm curious, like what happened there?
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	When did it happen?
	I think it was like seven years ago or something.
	It was just I'm very spontaneous, so I had this idea in mind.
	And yeah, it was fun.
	It was just fun.
	What was the tattoo?
	Stay wild.
	Stay wild?
	Did you guys have sex afterwards or before?
	Maybe both.
	Okay.
	And you said, oh, he was not a tattoo artist.
	No.
	And he did the tattoo.
	Yeah.
	Did it come out good?
	Well, it's not an art piece, but I do love it because of the story behind it, and it suits me, and I think it's kind of cute, so I'm still happy with it, yeah.
	Okay.
	You said you moved countries to be with a guy you met on Tinder, but unfortunately it didn't work out.
	Yeah, that's the guy.
	That's the tattoo guy.
	That country?
	Of Norway?
	Yeah.
	Oh, so these are like older notes then?
	Because you're not stuck there anymore.
	No, well, it moved two weeks ago, so.
	Okay, but so you moved to, wait, so the tattoo guy, you met him on Tinder.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He was on holiday in the Netherlands.
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	So, okay, you met this guy on Tinder.
	You let him tattoo you on the first date, your booty, and it was a Stay Wild tattoo.
	So how long did you date him or whatever?
	Because you said it didn't work.
	Yeah, like three years.
	Oh, you didn't for three years?
	Yeah.
	But then you were stuck in Norway.
	Yeah.
	I see.
	Like you were in the basement or something?
	What?
	Like you were tied up in the basement?
	What?
	No, it just didn't work out.
	We just split up and he moved to Singapore and I was in Norway and I was like, what do I want to do?
	Do I not want to stay?
	Was he a passport, bro?
	A what?
	You said he went to Singapore, so maybe he was trying to get some.
	He went there for work.
	Oh, okay.
	You said you were in an abusive relationship for six years with the guy you met on YouTube.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Abusive?
	Yeah.
	It sucked.
	I don't want to say too much about it.
	Getting into the relationship, did he allegedly abuse you?
	It was, I think, like a year in.
	It went really slow.
	And my friends and family tried to warn me then, but it was all sugar-coated with, no, just want to try to keep you safe.
	So I was like, oh, he loves me so much.
	This is amazing.
	How was he abusive?
	Oh, I don't want to talk about that.
	Can you say was it physical, emotional abuse?
	All of the above?
	Yeah.
	Why didn't you leave?
	That's a very good question.
	And I think you would never understand unless you're in a situation like that.
	But they take over your life and you're stuck and you're not allowed to leave.
	So it's very brainwashy.
	Trapped in the basement?
	No.
	Well, we lived together for a long time.
	I just don't, like, I understand that it's hard to leave a partner.
	I get that, but I just don't understand this whole, like, it's, they make it impossible to leave.
	Like, I just don't really understand that whole thing.
	Maybe somebody can do it.
	Yeah.
	So let's say we live together, right?
	But I'm abusive towards you.
	And you say, yeah, I don't want this anymore.
	I want you to leave or I want to leave.
	But we, like, got the apartment together.
	And you have nowhere else to go.
	And I say, no, you can't leave.
	And I locked the door.
	What are you going to do?
	Jump out of the window?
	And where are you going to go?
	Sleep on the streets.
	So that's what he did then?
	Yeah.
	So you're saying you were essentially kidnapped or?
	I don't want to call it that.
	So he never left the house?
	Yeah, he did.
	He liked, did he hammer the door with wood so you couldn't open the door?
	I went out.
	I went grocery shopping and all that stuff.
	It was not like I was stuck in a house.
	Okay, so he didn't prevent you from leaving?
	No, no, no.
	Well, at times.
	Okay.
	You mean like you got to leave?
	You can physically leave, but you can't mentally leave.
	He won't let you.
	Well, you're not dating him anymore, so he let you?
	Yeah, I'm not going to get into that, but it got really dangerous, yeah.
	All right, I mean, that's fair enough.
	I sometimes I'm a little confused by these stories, though, where it's like, well, the abuse started.
	You said it started one year in, and you stayed with him for six years.
	It's very hard to understand.
	Like, before this happened to me, I was also like, you can't just leave.
	What's the problem?
	Just walk out the door.
	But it's different once you're brainwashed and you're in it.
	I mean, doesn't this take away some accountability from you?
	Like, I was brainwashed.
	There's nothing I could do.
	I was abusive.
	Or he was abusive.
	I mean.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, you're putting all the blame on him.
	But again, I'll even grant or acknowledge that there are situations that are more difficult to exit than others.
	But it's like you were allowed.
	Like, I've heard stories of women where they're like, they weren't even allowed to leave the house.
	But you said you could go shopping, you could.
	He would leave.
	Like, obviously, there's degrees to abuse, but like, the way you're painting it is like he would always stay at the house and I can never go out.
	And he would, he boarded up the doors.
	Well, it's not like that, no.
	Okay.
	Is it not like physically you're not allowed to leave, but you're not allowed to leave the relationship?
	Maybe that's a better way to put it.
	So how did you, I mean, you might, you're probably just going to say, I can't answer it, but how did you leave the relationship?
	Did you just break up with him?
	I'm not going to answer that.
	Is it?
	It's just confusing.
	It's like, okay.
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	No, I called it.
	She wants a man to control her life.
	She'd be proud to have the Dutch men be replaced with Muslims.
	She wants to wear the burqa.
	Yo, Lol Paladins, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Anyways, look, I'm not going to try to dig too deep here, but I just, you said you guys lived together and you had a lease together.
	I can acknowledge that, yeah, there's going to be some financial ramifications if you like break your lease, but you could just break the lease?
	Like, is that what was keeping you there?
	Because you had a lease?
	People break leases all the time.
	Okay, you break the lease, and then where are you going to go?
	Aren't you a boss babe career woman?
	Were you making your own money?
	Were you working?
	I was 17.
	Was family in the picture?
	Not for this situation, no.
	Were your parents still together at the time?
	No.
	Were you previously living with your parents?
	Yes.
	Well, so there's some accountability here.
	You opted to move out of your parents' house at 17.
	Did he force you to move in with him?
	No, it was great before we moved in.
	But I don't really want to talk about this.
	There's no use to it.
	There's no problem.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You said you were involved in the BDSM scene and that you've heard crazy stories like slaves running through the forest and men trying to catch them.
	I'm not going to talk about that other part, but okay, that's all right.
	You were on a dating show on Dutch television where they put you together with a random guy in the house.
	Big brother vibes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Still get messages from that to this day.
	It was great.
	We played World of Warcraft together.
	Great vibe, but not the right person.
	You said that you broke up with your high school boyfriend on Valentine's Day because he said you were playing too much World of Warcraft?
	Yeah.
	When was this?
	2001?
	I don't know how old I was.
	2009?
	2010?
	I don't know.
	Well, you're 31, so.
	I was way young.
	Obviously, I wouldn't do that to this day, but it's not.
	So it's probably like TBC or Wrath, maybe?
	Classic TBC, yeah.
	It's probably TBC, yeah.
	Burning Crusade.
	You said you had sex with a game master to get a higher ranking in the middle.
	Yeah, that's a really fucked up story.
	I won't say.
	Why not?
	No, because I don't want to, how do you say?
	How long ago was it?
	10 years ago?
	It was a long time ago, but what game was it?
	No, I'm not going to tell.
	And it's very Munka TOS because I was underage at that time.
	It was TBC era.
	Oh, wait.
	So it was World of Warcraft.
	Just to give you an idea of how old I was.
	Like arena?
	Like PvP?
	Arena?
	I don't want to say.
	Well, I mean, that would be the same thing.
	I don't want to spoil you.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, I was crazy.
	At that time, I thought it was really cool, but now I realize I should have gone to the police instead.
	Oh, he was like older?
	Yikes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah, that's probably not.
	not the right topic you had sex for a moot removing like the whole age thing or whatever you had sex so that you could get like a rank in world Oh, man, that's crazy.
	Did he give you some gold too?
	So long ago, I don't remember.
	Did he give you some gold?
	Did he give you Martin Fury?
	No, I didn't get anything crazy like that.
	It was something really stupid, but I felt amazing.
	I was like, wow, this is great.
	I can achieve things like this.
	It was a really fucked up situation, yeah.
	You said you also have strong feelings about marriage, so I assume you're like not in favor of marriage.
	I am anti-marriage, yes.
	Okay, no objections from me.
	You think OnlyFans creators get too much hate, you're on OnlyFans 2, and I want to stick up for them.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	We already kind of talked about sex work bad.
	I don't know if there's much else there.
	Yeah.
	What do you think about like the OnlyFans girls who have typers and chatters?
	Do you think that's justified hate?
	Who have what?
	Tia?
	What?
	Chatter.
	Typer.
	What is that?
	You don't know about this?
	Bots?
	Yeah, like AI.
	Or like they either use like AI software or they hire people to talk to them.
	Into the microphones.
	Into the mic.
	They either get an AI software to talk to the fans so that they don't have to, or they hire people to do it for them instead of actually personally interacting.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Like on OnlyFans We're Talking, right?
	So you're not actually talking to the real person.
	Yeah, that's scammy.
	Wait, was the guy a YouTuber?
	Just curious?
	The guy?
	The six-year guy?
	Yeah.
	Never dating someone from YouTube again.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	We have Viv Viev.
	How do you say that?
	Viv.
	You have your master's in anthropology.
	That's cool.
	You consider yourself liberal politically.
	And you say you consider yourself a combination of feminist and traditional.
	You like equity over equality.
	What is...
	So, I mean, two separate things there.
	When you say you're a combination of feminist and traditional, what does that mean?
	I think some feminists go really far in the whole equal being equal, like having exactly the same role.
	But I do think that feminists is about respecting each other and feeling that people are worth the same.
	And I believe that women should not have to be questioned for being in an office room and have to explain why they're there, even though a man walks in and that's all right.
	But at the same time, I think men should be able to show their emotions and be not frowned upon when they do.
	So I just think people should be more together.
	Do you need to be a feminist to that's how I thought the definition from feminist is to believe that one is not above the other.
	But I do think that it's more about equity where we have different roles because biological men and women are different.
	But respect-wise, not one is above the other.
	That's interesting.
	And relationships should be a partnership.
	Well, let's go around the table on this.
	Do you consider yourself a feminist?
	I guess so.
	It's like loving women, respecting our rights.
	Is it all about equality, though?
	I thought I was just like supporting women.
	So I'll just give this definition.
	So feminism is, I suppose, pursuit of equality with a rejection of patriarchy.
	Rejection of patriarchy.
	Rejection of patriarchy.
	What's the definition?
	To reject patriarchy?
	Well, I mean, look, there's different definitions of feminism.
	I don't, my definition, I mean, my definition of feminism is it's a, at best, a woman's advocacy movement at worst and what it actually is.
	is a man-hating ideology intended to divide the sexes and destroy the nuclear family.
	But that's just the feminism I didn't like.
	That's why I said combined with the traditional team.
	Yeah, I feel like it depends on what your definition of feminist is.
	I would say I support all women, and I think we should have equal rights, but I don't think we should destroy the patriarchy.
	Okay.
	Do you consider yourself a feminist?
	I don't know, not really.
	No.
	So you're in favor of the patriarchy?
	I don't really have an opinion about this topic, honestly.
	No opinion?
	On patriarchy?
	No, not really.
	What about you?
	No.
	Non-feminist?
	No.
	Ruby, feminist?
	I would say no, only because I'm not that educated on it.
	I'm actually taking a feminist feminism class this far.
	But yeah, don't take it out of it.
	You'll never be the same.
	don't do it your hair will be purple and you'll oh wow yeah um so As of right now, no.
	What's the name of the class?
	It's just feminist studies.
	Like 101.
	I'd love to be a flower on the wall.
	Honestly, I forgot.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	What about you?
	No.
	I reject feminism in all of its forms.
	Why, dog?
	I think it just depends on different definitions of it for me.
	So it's like yes and no in some ways.
	Sure.
	So feminism.
	Traditional feminism.
	What's the traditional components that you believe in?
	Like partnership.
	So what?
	How's that?
	I think that feminism, in my opinion, is where women want to go above men and where they shout and hate on men and where men do things bad.
	I think it should be a partnership.
	Men and women are equal.
	Well, let me ask you a couple questions.
	Do you think that historically women were disadvantaged in comparison to men?
	Yeah, in some ways, definitely.
	Whose fault was that?
	Was it men?
	What time are we talking about historically?
	Are women disadvantaged today?
	Today, in some ways, yes.
	Yeah, and then so who?
	Who's doing it?
	Is it men?
	Yeah, but also women themselves.
	I think we're having this culture of pressure on us, which can be oppressing.
	A culture of pressure.
	Of rule sets, of things that should go in a certain way.
	Such as?
	Like a career is something the man does, that women can't.
	I don't know, and I did you put me on the spot.
	I find it very difficult to think of examples.
	Well, I mean, it's just the notes that you provided.
	Well, okay, how about this?
	Do you think that there's a patriarchy in society?
	Yeah, I think there's a lot of men that lead, lead to households, lead to politics, lead.
	But there's also room for women.
	And I think that's nice.
	There's also companies that try to look more for a 60-40 split with men and women.
	Do you think women are oppressed?
	Some women are.
	I don't feel oppressed.
	You don't feel oppressed?
	Are some women oppressed?
	You mean, like, in different countries?
	Yeah, I think also, for example, in the Netherlands, there are women that are oppressed with, for example, making career.
	They don't get the same chances as men do.
	But at the same time, like you mentioned, the whole emotion for men, men are oppressed in that way because they have to tough it up and they have to be strong and cannot share that.
	And I think it's nicer if that can both crowd to each other.
	Well, one of the things I've heard feminists say is that women were or are still oppressed and it's men's fault.
	Don't you think this is kind of pitting women against men?
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	I don't like what the term feminism is becoming because it's about hating men.
	Hold on, what do you mean by becoming?
	Well, I mean how I learned the word feminist when I was like 15 in high school was about equality and partnership and about equity and respecting each other and having room for people the way they are.
	But did they talk about how women were oppressed even when you were younger in school?
	They were talking about that women don't get the same chances and they were working towards that.
	But did they say that women were oppressed?
	I don't think they use those words.
	It was more about the chances that people get.
	Because I mean, patriarchy theory, women as oppressed, men as oppressors is like mainstream feminist theory for pretty much the entire entirety of feminism.
	Which I think is one, objectionable, historically inaccurate, and it pits women against men.
	And that I don't like.
	And it's a total mischaracterization of, one, the relationship between men and women currently and throughout history.
	But it also essentially just teaches women to be man-haters and to have contempt for men.
	Because if it is true, let's say it is true that men are oppressors.
	If men are the oppressor class and women are the oppressed class, it teaches women that men are terrible innately.
	But that's the bad side of feminism.
	That is feminism.
	I have learned feminism is about equal rights.
	And that means that...
	Is it?
	That's, but maybe...
	You're natively Dutch, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Is there military conscription in the Netherlands?
	Sorry?
	Military conscription?
	Do they have to serve or what is there a military conscription?
	I don't know the word conscription.
	Forced the draft into the military.
	As a woman?
	At all.
	There is now a one-year Dienstjar where you can go and get paid for a year to do that, but it's not enforced.
	Actually, I just want to be fair here.
	Apparently, in 2020, conscription in the Netherlands was changed to include women.
	Apparently.
	So they have equalized this in the Netherlands.
	So this is perhaps not the best example, but the Netherlands.
	But I'm not a man-hater at all.
	So if that's the definition of feminists here, that women should be above men or should hate men, that's completely not what I stand behind at all.
	It's just about equality.
	I just don't like the feminist traditional thing.
	It's just...
	It clashes.
	A little bit because I think what a lot of women do is they want all the benefits of feminism or equality when it suits them.
	So that my sense of feminism is you'll only fight for equality, whether it's socially, whether it's legally, if that legal equality or that social equality benefits women.
	So for example, if there is some form of equality which were to come to the detriment of women in some conceivable way, feminists will not fight for it, even if it were to create greater equality between men and women.
	So for example, feminists in the United States, they're not in the streets or even advocating in any degree or any capacity to equalize draft registration, military conscription between men and women.
	Only men are subject to military conscription in the United States.
	In most other, in the vast majority of other countries in the world, only men are subject to forced military conscription, draft, obligatory military service in some countries.
	I don't know if it's some countries, like the men have to go do military service for a couple years.
	This is common in various Asian countries.
	I believe even in Switzerland, for example, I think it's still mandatory that men have to do some sort of civilian service or military service.
	Women are excluded from having to do this.
	And there are punishments for men who try to avoid it or who don't.
	But women don't fight for equality for those sorts of things.
	They don't fight for equality for like the dangerous jobs that men predominate in.
	The dangerous, dirty jobs.
	You want to close the wage gap, but you don't want to close the workplace fatality gap, the workplace injury gap.
	The more likely to work in the freezing fucking cold gap, the more likely to get electrocuted to death gap, the more likely to work dangerous, disgusting jobs gap.
	You only want to close the gaps in things that benefit women.
	You don't want to close the gap in other realms, which is interesting.
	So you don't really care about equality, you care about securing benefits for women, which I don't suppose is wrong.
	But to parade feminism as equality is laughable.
	Yeah, I think the way feminism right now is being paraded is true.
	We're looking at the gaps where women could win.
	But yeah, I mean, I still think life is a partnership, and I have a man at home, so I would also fight for his rights.
	But I'm not very actively fighting at all.
	But yeah.
	Well, I guess moving off of that, you said you like equity over equality, so what does that mean?
	What's the difference there?
	Equality is that you have to do exactly the same things, though.
	Equity is looking at where people are having their talents and what they're best at.
	Because for example, me and my boyfriend, if we have to move a very heavy stone, he is better equipped for that than I am because of our builds.
	And I could train to be exactly as strong as he is, but it would cost me a lot more energy to get to that level.
	So he should get the bigger piece of chicken.
	Oh, he always gets the bigger piece of chicken.
	Well, can we just like apply this to society too then?
	So if men are more productive, should they get paid more than women?
	If they do.
	Provably paid more or provably more productive.
	I mean.
	If they're, yeah.
	If someone is more productive than someone else, they should get paid more.
	Well, then, for example, I don't know how it is in the Netherlands, but police officers, firefighters, and people in the military.
	So women can become police officers, women can become firefighters, women can join the military.
	But these are jobs that require some degree of physical exertion.
	Firefighters, a police officer might have to apprehend a suspect, might have to physically arrest him, detain him, whatever.
	And then military, there's a force application in the military too.
	And not only in the actual job, but all these jobs I listed have physical requirements, which would seem to indicate that in the actual job there are going to be physical requirements, right?
	So then the women, if they want to be on the same level, should train more, probably.
	But here's the difference in for the purposes of equity or equality.
	We've lowered the physical requirements for women in police force, and this is seen across various countries in police forces, military, and firefighting.
	But they get paid the exact same, even though these are physically laborious jobs.
	Also in the corporate world as well, you've got DEI.
	So women will be DEI hires.
	They don't meet the same qualifications, but because they're women and they need to fill a quota, they'll get the job more easily.
	Don't you see that a lot in like coding and computer engineering jobs?
	Like they're just like desperate to get the like, oh, we have a woman engineer and they're like less qualified than their male counterparts.
	And then males who are more qualified are overlooked in like software engineering and so forth because the woke Silicon Valley and San Francisco companies want to, I don't know, do the DEI bullshit.
	Okay, I don't know.
	No pushback.
	I guess I think the point he's making is that you've got DEI and you've got all of these lowered requirements that actually goes against the natural course of things.
	If the market is just to sort of, if the market was to just play out, men would get paid more, men would be in all these different positions.
	And also, men are more likely to die at work, work in all these horrible conditions.
	Doesn't it seem like women are kind of already winning?
	If you say it like that, yeah.
	I don't think it's necessarily, I don't know.
	I just, I like it when there's a partnership.
	I have that with my partner.
	I have that with my friends.
	I see that in my family, and that's what I meant.
	Okay.
	You said men and women are different by nature and thus complete equality would make no sense.
	We need to find where people's potential lies and bring that up.
	Where women or men feel they are stuck with boundaries imposed by others.
	We should ask questions.
	For example, that women have to prove themselves why they are in a room while a man is assumed to be there, like for business.
	Okay.
	Or the fact that men are not supposed to cry or show emotions.
	Yeah, but this is kind of something, I mean, the whole crying thing, like this is something that is kind of policed by women.
	You don't like weak men.
	Crying is not weak.
	Yeah, it is.
	Crying is not weak.
	If men cried in the same ways that women cry, you would think it's weak.
	I fully disagree.
	What about if they cry because they stub their toe?
	Would that be weak?
	Then they have a low pain tolerance, unless it's really bad.
	Would there be a hint of weakness about that?
	If it's about if it's measured on their pain level, then yeah.
	But that doesn't say anything about them as a person at all.
	Because someone called them fat.
	Someone called them fat.
	Someone called them fat and they started crying.
	Well, that's awful.
	That's really sad.
	So you think that if just an off comment, you're walking with your boyfriend down the street and someone says and then he starts crying about it.
	Maybe he has trauma or something.
	It doesn't make him a weak man.
	Like if a man dares to cry in front of me, that makes me feel more like honored.
	Like, oh, you dare to, you trust me, you dare to cry in front of me and I'll take care of you.
	I think women will generally say this, but it's for the most part a lie.
	They're actually pretty grossed out when guys cry, especially for trivial reasons as well.
	And wouldn't you want that to change?
	No.
	You don't have a feeling.
	Like, do you cry?
	No.
	Never.
	That's bad.
	I don't think it is.
	I think you guys think about it from the female paradigm, which is that you cry a lot because you guys are more emotional beings.
	I can't, I couldn't cry if I tried.
	Sometimes shit happens that's really horrible.
	And I'm like, there's not even one little bit of me that wants to cry right now.
	I think it's just the kind of way.
	It's not just holding on your emotion.
	Like, it's okay to be vulnerable in the world.
	I'll go smash the boxing bag for an hour and I'll feel good after it.
	I think we just operate differently.
	And generally, if I see a guy who cries a lot, it suggests to me that he has a lack of emotional control.
	And that would echo in other parts of his personality and his character as well.
	Okay, then maybe I put that as one of the things.
	I thought there would be nice to have more room for men, but maybe that's completely in my own mind and that's not a need at all.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I think a lot of guys just don't really like crying.
	You know, it's not really just, it's just not really something we do as much.
	You guys can cry on a day.
	It's a human emotion.
	Of course men cry as well.
	I think they don't because I feel like they can't.
	I don't really think that's true.
	I've got a lot of people.
	I've got a lot of male friends and it's very rare that they cry.
	If they did, you know, that's fine.
	I think if you're around your male friends, it's okay to shed a tear sometimes.
	But I just don't really think it's something we do as much.
	Generally, we tend to have more logical, practical conversations.
	If I had a real disagreement with a guy and he just started crying, I'd be a bit like, okay, can we stop the tears and can we just have a conversation about it?
	Because we're not really solving anything by you just sitting there sobbing, you know?
	Well, you let out your emotion.
	It's good to let it go sometimes.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	And that's for every single human being.
	Of course, maybe you don't have it.
	Some people have it more than others.
	But I think it's a bad thing to say that man shouldn't do it because it's weak.
	But we have other ways of channeling out our emotion, though.
	And I think that crying is just not really necessarily one of them.
	If you go to the gym, go for a run, go and have a logical, practical conversation with somebody.
	If I've got a real problem and it's really eating away at me, I'm not going to cry because then the problem's still there.
	I'm going to go and call up one of my brothers or one of my best friends.
	You do that after crying, usually.
	First you let your emotion go and then you grab yourself together and brainstorm, okay, what can we do about this?
	It's not like that.
	I'm going to have a waste of time crying.
	Yeah, well, maybe for you.
	I think, yeah.
	I don't know.
	It's just like a way to release the emotion.
	Like, it doesn't have to, like, when you feel really intensely sad or like mad about something, it's just a way of releasing emotion.
	It doesn't make you more weak.
	Because like you'd say, I mean, like, their way of releasing that is by hitting things or like with anger.
	And I don't think that's better or worse.
	It's just like people, you know, the way they let out emotion is different.
	So I don't view it as weak.
	It's just like, you know, I'd rather have them cry than to like hold it inside and feel like that intensely.
	No, that's some man shit.
	You fucking stifle that shit, push it down.
	Yeah, you push it down.
	Fucking push that shit down.
	I don't believe in that.
	Like, you should be able to be emotional.
	Well, even if I grant that, like, look, if you're a guy and you're gonna cry, don't do that shit in front of your chick.
	That's for sure.
	Yes, you should.
	Definitely.
	She's the one who cries.
	You're gonna have to take care of you.
	She's the one who's supposed to be there for you and take care of you in times when they're doing that.
	She's supposed to be there and take care of you.
	If she's the right one, she will.
	But what women say and how they act are sometimes very different.
	So you'll see your guy cry in front of you, and like, even if it doesn't register in your brain, somewhere back there, you're going to be like, this guy's a fucking bitch.
	I know, but I feel like menu.
	Lose attraction.
	Because he just, basically.
	He implied that.
	So I feel like it's more of a society thing.
	No, it's a woman.
	No, I think it's a good idea.
	It's a woman's kind of ingrained.
	But like, who raised it?
	We grew up in a society that ingrains ideas in our head.
	So then we're going to just, you know, subconsciously react in a certain way.
	I can ask you a question.
	If one of your boys cried in front of you, but it was like, I'm trying to, I don't know if this is going to be a perfect example.
	Like, if one of your male friends cried, like, would you console him?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But it wouldn't be like a, oh, like, are you okay?
	That sort of thing.
	You just sit there with them.
	Yeah.
	And then you'd come to a logical, practical solution about it.
	Yeah, of course.
	I'd sit there in the moment.
	That's happened to me before where I've had guy friends of mine who have confided in me and ended up crying.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	It's fine.
	But I'm not going to sit there and start crying with you.
	Yeah, like you don't need to baby someone, but you can definitely.
	But I think that women do that, though, and that's different.
	Like one of you starts crying and everyone starts crying and then I don't baby people when they cry.
	You just want to be sort of heard.
	As a guy, it's different.
	Women tend to want, like, if your girl cries in front of you, the last thing that I'm going to do is be like, okay, cool.
	Like, let's get a practical solution going.
	I'm just going to be like, yeah, okay, cool.
	Yeah, okay.
	Wow, that's so sad.
	And let's sit there.
	Yeah, so just support them.
	You can say that.
	That's a tragedy.
	But if a guy cries in front of me, generally it's going to be like, all right, let's get this out the way and then let's try and fix this problem.
	That's two different things.
	But also, guys are meant to be the protectors.
	And generally, if you cry, it means that you can't handle a situation.
	And it reduces you to tears.
	It reduces you to this level of emotion.
	And I think there's something in women that says if they see a guy crying over a problem, then he can't handle tough situations.
	And then when it comes to that moment where he needs to step up, he might crumble.
	He might collapse.
	So I don't think it's an attractive thing to do.
	I feel like it's more situational.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, but it's not.
	Like, if he's crying at everything, like, if a family member dies and then he's like overcome with emotion, then that's fair enough, obviously.
	If something so tragic happens.
	But if it's every overall these little things, then it's just kind of just bitchy.
	Well, it's just a lack of like emotional stability if they cry at everything.
	But it's like if you're crying for a good reason, Lol Paladins donated $100.
	It's true that women want a man to show crying to them because nothing is more repulsive to a woman than wasting her time with a weak man.
	If you show her your weakness, you've saved her time.
	Facts, that's facts, Lol Paladins.
	This is so toxic, I can't even.
	100.
	By the way, you can do your little special 100, you know, you know, little things, La Palin.
	Sorry, it's what?
	It's so toxic to spread this message.
	How is it toxic?
	To young men thinking that they cannot express emotional.
	The only time, honestly, the only time a man should cry is if a family member died, someone close to them died.
	Maybe like a beloved animal died.
	That's toxic masculinity.
	It's not that literally.
	Because then if you cry at something, you're going to be like, everyone here mentioned your emotion.
	No one cares about blah, blah, blah.
	It's like you're the one saying it.
	Hold on.
	So, okay.
	So I'm trying to think, like severe health issue for a loved one or yourself, like you find out you have cancer.
	That's acceptable.
	But like all the scenarios where y'all fucking cry about shit, it's not acceptable for a dude to cry in like 99% of the scenarios in which y'all cry.
	I don't be crying that much.
	What's your sign?
	Bullshit, Taurus.
	Anyways, mess with the horns, you get Wait, mess with the bull Oh, my God.
	That fucked it up.
	But I would say the reverse of what you guys think is actually true about crying and about toxic masculinity.
	If you encourage guys to just cry about everything, then that's actually against our nature.
	We don't want to cry about things.
	We want to come up with it.
	And well met.
	Lol Paladins donated $100.02.
	Thank you, man.
	It's toxic for you to prevent men like me from teaching other men truth.
	Feminism is about power, not equality.
	And women knowing the truth and men being kept in the dark is a power imbalance.
	It's true.
	What does that even mean?
	I have to leave.
	I have to work tomorrow.
	Yeah, I'm going to leave soon, too.
	Bro, we gotta have a bunch of stuff.
	No, you guys gotta stay.
	You gotta stay.
	I have to work at like 8 a.m.
	What?
	Sucking dick?
	Hell yeah.
	Guys, we're gonna wrap the show up here soon.
	Just you guys gotta make it to the end.
	How long?
	I can stay for maybe another 20 minutes or so.
	Bro, don't do me any dirty like.
	You'll be right.
	Just have a red bull and can I get you a red bull?
	I already got an energy drink.
	It's like.
	No, I mean, tomorrow morning, you just have a red bull and you'll be wander up.
	Watch a go.
	Wait, can we get through all your notes?
	Hold on.
	Let me see here.
	We have Goloski.
	We have, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on.
	Well, I got to at least get through your notes first, Gabrielle.
	So, okay, you said you have lots of wild dating stories from all the states I've lived in.
	From first dates that ended up at a strip club, swingers, dates with doctors, plural, from my hospital, etc.
	How many physicians have you dated?
	Only like one, actually.
	But another one sent me flowers.
	You said you guys asked me out, but I said no.
	Wait, you said you had dates with doctors, plural, from your hospital.
	Well, I meant just one.
	But like multiple dates with one doctor.
	Wild, let's hear one of the one or two of these wild dating stories.
	Okay, so whenever I was living in Miami, these guys asked me and my friend to go on a double date on a boat.
	We thought they had a boat or were renting a boat, but they were actually like the skippers for the boat and they just stole the owner's boat and took us to the wharf, which is like a bar on the water.
	And then we didn't like the vibes, so we just dipped.
	Yeah.
	And then, okay, so I went on a date with the guy who took me to a strip club.
	And, you know, I was honestly down because I'm always down for the plot.
	Because I had just moved to Arizona and I didn't really know a lot of people there.
	And already from dinner, he took me to a nice restaurant, but just so many red flags, and I didn't see it going anywhere.
	So he told me that his birthday was that night, but he was meeting up with his friends.
	And I was like, you know what?
	Fuck it.
	Maybe his friends are cool or like I'll meet some cool girls through whoever they go with.
	And he took me to the ship club.
	And as soon as we got there, the stripper came up and she was like, oh, hey, so-and-so, good to see you again.
	And like looked at me.
	She's like, you know, he comes here all the time, right?
	I was like, oh, yeah, it's a cool spot.
	Because honestly, I didn't care if he goes to the ship club because I wasn't going to date him.
	Like, I don't even know him.
	You said that you're earlier on in the show, you said you're really picky and you have high standards.
	Although we kind of went over that a little bit, right?
	I mean, we did the delusional.
	Yeah.
	We did the delusional calculator.
	But you said you'd rather remain single than settle or lower your standards.
	Is that correct?
	Correct.
	Okay.
	But I'll give people a chance and I'll go on dates with them.
	Because I feel like everyone deserves a shot because you don't know if there is a connection or not until you try it out.
	You should give this podcast a shot and stay till the end of the show.
	I can't like too many.
	I mean, we are going to wrap probably within an hour.
	You guys could stay an hour.
	That would be super.
	I wish I could, but I've got lives to save.
	I've got to be up at 6 a.m. as well.
	30 minutes.
	We'll all do this together.
	I've got to be up at 6 a.m. too.
	So that's all power through.
	You're not getting up at 6 a.m.
	I am.
	Are you?
	Yeah.
	We've got to drive to LA early in the morning.
	You know what?
	This is why the wage gap exists because Jake's over here.
	He's like, yo, we're going to power through.
	And y'all are like, oh, no.
	I stayed till the end last time.
	So.
	Yeah.
	No one told me how long this is going to be on cover.
	A cursory bit of research would have.
	I know I did no research.
	Yeah, well.
	I'm always down for the plot.
	Down for the plot.
	I mean, it gets me in a situation like this.
	This is the plot.
	So it's got to be.
	Here till it thickens.
	You want to just stay?
	I think you got this, bro.
	I think you got this.
	I'm getting hangry and I got to work tomorrow.
	I got...
	Actually, I don't have any episodes.
	I got ketchup packets.
	No, that's fun.
	It's okay.
	I have some ketchup packets in the wow.
	That's the LA.
	Wait, tell you what.
	Tell you what.
	How about we make a deal?
	I'll let you leave early if you shoot a ketchup packet on stream right now.
	That's a good idea.
	Yeah.
	Well, not in like, I didn't mean it that way.
	Like, shoot it.
	Like, what?
	Like a shot.
	You have to take a ketchup packet.
	God damn it.
	Why did I offer this?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to ketchup pack.
	Can I have a ketchup packet?
	That's like an easy answer.
	Okay.
	And there's a soy sauce packet that you also have to do.
	Ooh, okay.
	And no, no, you can't add yourself.
	No chaser.
	No chaser.
	No chase notes.
	Actually, I rescind my thing.
	You guys just, I'm going to kidnap you here.
	You guys are now all in an abusive relationship with me.
	I'm actually kidnapping all of you.
	None of you are allowed to leave.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Selena, I need to get into your notes too, you dork.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	You said you wanted to talk about sexual compatibility.
	Can money buy love?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, I feel like we already talked about this stuff.
	These are your new notes.
	Also, your Instagram.
	Why does it say Southern Bell?
	Because I'm from Texas.
	Oh, that's right.
	Okay.
	But yeah, I mean, the only thing new I really added was just another date story about the guy.
	I mean, like, he was just kind of rude.
	And he took me out to this really nice place.
	And everything was going well.
	And like, it wasn't like the fanciest restaurant, but like, I was eating chicken with a knife and fork, whatever.
	And one of the wings were so small that I just picked it up and was going to eat it, like, not like in a pig way or whatever, like going in.
	And he's like, oh, it's not that kind of place.
	And that just like pissed me off.
	So, I mean, it's not that crazy, but you said that he was just essentially mocking the way you were eating.
	Yeah, I just thought it was a little rude.
	How were you eating?
	Just like, just explained to it.
	Like, just nibbling.
	Let's see.
	You okay?
	We got Ruby.
	We got to get to Ruby's notes.
	You said you wanted to ask, what do people consider cheating or toxic in a relationship?
	You know what I consider toxic in a relationship?
	If it's like I'm kicking it with a chick, she's like, it's like fucking 10.30 and she's like, I got to leave because I have work early tomorrow.
	And I'm like, bro, I thought we were going to kick it for at least another hour.
	Like, that's what, I feel like that's pretty toxic.
	Yeah, she just has toxic.
	Wow.
	That's toxic.
	Brent Brooks donated $200.
	Gabby, you are a legend.
	Arizona is less cool without you.
	Yeah, that's to you.
	Look, you got a nice message.
	See, even the chat wants you to.
	Who is Brent Brooks?
	Is that a doctor that you had carnal knowledge with?
	No.
	Did you smash Brent?
	Dr. Brooks?
	Was he an ophthalmologist?
	If this is the person I think it is, we did go on a date.
	Did you smash?
	No.
	Let us know, Brent, what happened?
	Yeah, beaches.
	What happened?
	A blowy?
	She's like, I'm just saying.
	Okay, sorry, that was inappropriate.
	My bad, my bad.
	Let's see.
	Ruby, you said I genuinely believe people don't date to marry anymore and people just expect too much now.
	Such as fast replies, shared location.
	Yeah, I feel like that's something I wanted to ask you guys about.
	I feel like people nowadays, like personally, I'll meet a guy and they expect me to respond within a minute or two.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, like, and now like, I feel like nowadays, like, based off the stories my parents told me or like what, like my family, what I'm kind of like, what I was educated on.
	Nowadays, just people my age, like, they expect too much.
	They expect us to respond like this, like, or like, they'll ask for your location right away.
	It's like, what?
	I don't know.
	Asked for the location.
	I've never asked a girl for location.
	Really?
	No.
	Why?
	To come see you?
	No.
	No, it's like sharing location.
	Yeah, like.
	Requested.
	Huh?
	I think they're scammers if they do that.
	No, like these are people I've met like in real life.
	So that's like those.
	We're like talking.
	Like we're already like, let's say like I'm talking to this man and we're a month in.
	He's already like, hey, so like since we're getting a little more serious, I think we should share locations.
	I'm like, what?
	But he's talking about like Life 360.
	And I've had multiple experiences.
	Wait, what is this?
	Life 360.
	What is that?
	It's an app where you can track everything someone does, like the time that the miles per hour they're going on their freeway.
	I don't know.
	The time they arrive at at a certain edges.
	No, we just have fine friends.
	Oh, okay.
	It's like not.
	Damn.
	Yeah, like you see.
	No.
	Holy shit.
	Maybe it's the men I'm attracted to, but honestly, even my friends or even some family, it's just people around my age.
	They just expect too much.
	I feel like that's not normal.
	Wait, what's your type of guy?
	I don't know.
	What?
	White guy, black guys?
	No.
	Mexicans?
	No.
	I don't have a type.
	I like everything.
	You're open to anything, aren't you?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	The whole, yeah, the sharing location thing.
	I've never had a girl ask me for that.
	I've never asked that of a girl.
	And then you said that expecting replies super fast.
	Yeah, I feel like, come on.
	We have, like, how old are these guys?
	They're in their 20s.
	Early 20s, late 20s?
	Early 20s.
	Yeah.
	They don't sound very busy.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	But like, still, what if I just wanted like to sit back and like, you know, I just got off my shift.
	Let's say I just want to watch Netflix or something.
	I can't even lie about that anymore because, you know, they'll be like, hey, like, why haven't you responded?
	It's been 30 minutes.
	I'm like, bro, I'm watching my show.
	Oh, that's annoying.
	Like, that's so childish.
	Sometimes it takes me over a day to reply.
	Yeah, 72 hours.
	Yeah, I feel like.
	72 hours.
	The expectations now are just insane.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	That's why I'd rather meet people in real life and just, you know, I don't know.
	Do you girls, have you guys had that experience of like, that's got to be kind of like almost scary for a girl?
	Like it makes me uncomfortable like as a guy if a girl's saying this shit like depending on what if a girl's like getting on my case about not replying too quick or like it's literally been 30 minutes and or like one or two hours and it's like I was doing some shit.
	But I feel like that's got to be kind of scary for a girl, you know?
	Like, I don't know.
	Have you had that?
	Like a guy's like, why didn't you respond?
	It's so lame too.
	It's like you're so lame.
	You're just screaming, I don't have shit to do.
	Oh, it's so lame.
	Like, yeah.
	But you've had that.
	Yeah, just they don't have a life.
	Have you had that?
	Yes.
	Didn't work out.
	I don't.
	But like, as a guy, why would you do that?
	Because girls are probably way more sensitive to that than men are.
	So it's just like, you're going to lose the girl.
	I feel like, I don't know.
	You want to make it seem like the opposite.
	Like, you don't really care.
	You're doing your thing.
	And they message you and you're like, not care, but like, give people their space.
	You know what I mean?
	No, I think you want to.
	You can't be like all of them.
	You want to make it seem like your mission and whatever you're doing in life is most important.
	And then when like messaging is just sort of a side thing, you're like, yeah.
	Oh, I forgot you were.
	Are you one of those people that think after a good day that you have to wait two days before texting?
	I think I just don't like playing games.
	Because seven days a week, I'm busy.
	And if you wanted me to text you, I don't really do small talk.
	Maybe one or two messages throughout the day, but if it's like, hey, like, what are you up to?
	I'm like, working.
	Yeah.
	Go away.
	From my experience, I feel like the guys just think you're like doing the worst.
	What do you mean?
	Like, they think you're thought and plotting and drawing.
	I've never heard that.
	Thought and plotting.
	That happened to me one time, not with my current boyfriend, but he had my location and he was just like blowing up my phone.
	And I was like, bro, I'm at a work meeting.
	And he thought I was keeping a secret.
	I think guys that think that they're projecting because they're probably doing something that they shouldn't be doing.
	Because one of my exes, he would always be on my case where I'm at.
	And I worked a night shift as a nurse.
	And he would be like, oh, like, where are you sleeping all day?
	Like, you're always out.
	And I'm like, yeah, I'm at work.
	And like, coming to find out he was cheating on me.
	That didn't happen to me.
	But like, he didn't cheat on me.
	I don't think he was doing anything.
	And then, Ruby, going back to you, you said you were getting to know Guy and the week into us going on dates, he told you he loved you.
	Yes.
	Oh my gosh.
	I don't understand why that was even said.
	I feel like I don't know.
	You have to build a connection in order to love someone.
	So for them to say that or for anyone to, well, no judgment if you guys believe in that.
	But like me personally, you can't love someone you just sort of met.
	Like there has to be a deeper connection.
	So I don't know.
	That was just so weird.
	It threw me off and I was just like, bro, like, you know what?
	Never mind.
	Like, you just gave me the biggest dick of my life.
	Damn.
	And then you.
	No, I played it cool.
	I was like, oh, I was like, I think I might have said thank you.
	You said that one time you thought the guy you were in a situation with was going to take you out to dinner.
	He mentioned taking a quick stop.
	He took you to a trap house to sell drugs to a bunch of bald men who were disrespectful instead.
	And then he took you straight home.
	He took you straight home afterwards.
	Yes, that indeed did happen.
	How many bold men were there?
	Oh, God.
	There was more than five.
	And they were all bold.
	Like, I'm not.
	I am not kidding.
	They were all bald.
	I was like, oh, like this guy's all the country.
	They just all had a nude knot, all of them.
	It was a mild community, I believe.
	Interesting.
	But that did happen.
	Like, I'm not lying about that.
	I hope he doesn't see this.
	But yeah.
	I really thought, you know, we're going to go out for dinner.
	It was, you know, like, probably I ate already.
	So I was like, oh, okay.
	And he was mentioning like orcs in my head, like Lord of the Rings orcs.
	They were big, too.
	Like, they were big.
	Yeah.
	Going to your notes here, you said you used to date this guy that had two wheat plants, wheat plants in the bed.
	You asked multiple times if he could remove them, but he always explained that the sun was best there for the plants.
	I was so stupid.
	And you were supposed to deal with it.
	Yeah, I dated him for like two and a half years, and I don't know why I allowed that.
	But yeah, I would come to his place, and he was, you can have wheat plants in the Netherlands, but I don't smoke wheat.
	So I don't like the smell of the plants.
	And one day they were in the bed, and he scooched the mattress to the sides.
	So there was this tiny space to sleep.
	Yeah, and I asked, hey, can you remove those when we were gonna sleep?
	And he was like, nah, because tomorrow morning the sun starts there and that's good for the plants.
	And I stayed.
	Interesting.
	You said that you were, wait, hold on, there's a different one here.
	You went with a guy to Curacao.
	Is that how you say it?
	Curacao.
	Curacao.
	Okay, where he came from.
	Same guy.
	Yeah.
	So he came from Curacao and his mom lived there and we were going to visit her for a month.
	And then she would say like, oh, maybe you can bring Fief to this and that place.
	That's really nice.
	And he would be like, oh, I've been there so many times already.
	And he would just play poker in the house on his laptop.
	But then his mom was super sweet.
	So she would say like, hey, Fieve, do you want to walk the dog with me?
	And then she would say, let's take the car.
	And then she would bring me to all these places to show me how beautiful the island was.
	You said that you went on the first date and he asked you, what do you like to do?
	You were super hyped about the new World of Warcraft expansion.
	So you mentioned, lower the volume to 50, that I think, can you lower the volume?
	Can you, can you lower the volume?
	Oh, Desiree donated $1,000.
	Wow.
	Pop champagne.
	Champagne pops for Mason.
	And a big thanks to Brian for being the goat and helping me feed my kids.
	Wow.
	That is a champagne pop.
	W Desiree.
	Austin.
	Hey, yeah, I never saw that.
	I guess that's a W for Desiree.
	There she goes.
	She's becoming a whatever fan.
	Mason.
	Character arc is real.
	Mason.
	Oh, my God.
	Austin.
	Austin, can you grab a champagne and get a picture?
	Also, I'm pretty sure she left.
	I heard the door.
	I want a door.
	Okay.
	Rude.
	Okay.
	I'm going to do this.
	She left right before the champagne pop, man.
	She left?
	It's one you open by the hand.
	Yeah, I don't.
	Yeah, just give me a paper towel if you can.
	And we got some cups here.
	Yes, thank you.
	While we're doing that, can you tell us the World of Warcraft story?
	Yeah, so I got out of the relationship with the wheat plant guy and I was excited to date again.
	And I remember I had this date with someone.
	I believe it was a friend of a friend and they set us up.
	So I went there and we sat down and he asked me like, oh, what are you doing?
	What's on your mind?
	And at the time, I think it was Legion or maybe the expansion before that, but it was going to get released for World of Warcraft.
	And I was super hyped about it.
	And then I explained, like, oh, there's this new expansion.
	So in a few days, that's going to happen and all the new stuff.
	Are you going to pop it now?
	Yeah, go keep that.
	And then he said, like, oh, yeah, gaming is stupid for girls.
	That's only something men should do.
	And then the waiter came and he just ordered drinks.
	And I was like, shit, I really don't want to sit here.
	But we talked a lot about him playing Call of Duty because he was also a gamer.
	And yeah.
	And so he said what again?
	He said that gaming is for men and women shouldn't game.
	It's a waste of time.
	But he was a gamer as well.
	But I don't know what his logic was there.
	And then you were so done with him after he said gaming was for men and women shouldn't game.
	Yeah.
	Well, before I get into that, because I really want to get into that, who wants some champagne?
	Is there alcohol in it?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Please.
	All right.
	All right.
	She's being a good sport.
	Now we're getting some alcohol.
	All right.
	Here, let me make it a little.
	Or Maddie, can you do the favors?
	It's only four.
	Can you pour Jake?
	You want, you gotta have a little Desiree champagne.
	I don't drink, but I appreciate that, Nada.
	Desiree, it's gone to a good cause.
	Well done.
	All right, Maddie, if you can pour the rest for the gals.
	Ruby, you can't have it.
	Champagne?
	Nothing.
	Champagne?
	Champagne?
	Champagne, yeah.
	Champagne?
	Yeah.
	Champagne, champagne.
	Okay, so two.
	Perfect.
	We can't do that.
	I don't need the whole bottle, just these two.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot.
	So the whole video gaming thing, maybe you know what I'm talking about.
	There was like this girl who, oh man, it was.
	Is he wrong?
	I don't know.
	I've always been a gamer, but I've had so many people tell me that it's a waste of time to game.
	I don't know.
	But that's now my job and I built this beautiful community.
	So for me, no.
	And I know a lot of girls who also game.
	I like it.
	But I don't think it's that.
	Like, maybe this is the angle here.
	Is that so?
	Gaming was more of a male space.
	And men are frequently losing kind of more male-dominated spaces, right?
	Cheers.
	Let's do quick cheers, and then we'll get into the topic.
	All right.
	Saloo.
	Thank you, Desiree.
	Doomsday, Desiree.
	Saloo.
	Cheers.
	To a quick recovery.
	It's a nice.
	Yes, and cheers to Mason.
	I'm sure he'll love that Desiree.
	So women go into male spaces and destroy male spaces.
	So maybe that's what he was saying.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I've never considered it a male space.
	Because, I mean, I started gaming when I was like 11 or something when we had a PlayStation 2.
	I always played SSX3 and Tony Hawk Pro Skater and Heroes of Might and Magic 3 on the PC.
	But these were all single players, so I didn't meet other people.
	I didn't know if there were male or female.
	Well, I think the issue that men tend to have is if women wanted to come into their space, I don't think they would really care necessarily.
	But what ends up happening is women will enter male spaces and start to try to police their conduct.
	Oh, you can't make these kinds of jokes.
	You can't talk this way.
	They'll start policing the conduct.
	Yeah, maybe I had bad experiences with his Call of Duty groups.
	I don't know.
	You had bad experiences with Call of Duty groups?
	He, like, he played Call of Duty, so he...
	Yeah, they just want to be on Call of Duty and fucking talk shit to each other and be super toxic.
	But you introduce like a woman, and then is she going to tolerate that level of toxicity?
	She's going to start policing it.
	She's going to start calling them sexist and all this stuff.
	Isn't this the like genesis of Gamergate 2?
	Where I don't know all the details of Gamergate, but like they just wanted to police gamers.
	Isn't that what it was all about?
	I don't know.
	I thought gaming was all about just escaping worlds and enjoying your little fairy tale and play together with friends.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	I don't experience it as policing.
	I also didn't talk to him that long after the first drink I left, so I never asked him why he thought gaming wasn't for women.
	Maybe I should have, and then a story like that would have occurred.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	Do you think women should be gamers?
	Can be gamers?
	Well, of course you can be gamers.
	I have no objections to women playing video games.
	What I object to is the tendency for women to enter predominantly male spaces and instead of like trying to become one of the boys, you're like, the way you guys are conducting yourselves is wrong.
	You need to change because now a woman is here.
	That's the problem.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, I guess I think what you mean, but I don't think that's an issue in World of Warcraft.
	At least not like how I experienced it.
	I mean...
	But I know, for example, Valorant, I played that for a little bit and I quit because the toxicity was so high and I didn't like all the go-back-to-the-kitchen kind of jokes.
	So I just quit.
	So I left them with their toxicity in Valorant, I suppose.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if women want to play video games, I don't have any issues with it.
	I think the issue that a lot of these video game guys have.
	Hail and well met.
	Log Paladins donated $100.02.
	Women are absolutely welcome to game.
	Someone has to play the rest her shaman/slash holy priest keeping my tank alive.
	Having a female in guild changes the dynamic, even if they aren't sleeping with guild lead.
	I do have to say I know a lot of female healers in World of Warcraft.
	We do need healers.
	That's true.
	Yeah, I am also, I'm a holy paladin, so I am also a healer.
	So at that stereotype, I kind of fit.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyways, totally cool with women gaming.
	Like, that's totally cool.
	It's just like when you come in and start trying to like police the way the men were happily conducting themselves when it was mostly just men.
	It's like, also, didn't this happen in the corporate world too, essentially?
	But, oh boy, I'm going to get canceled for that one.
	But I mean, isn't that what?
	HR departments?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see what else.
	You said that more traditional topics.
	You're being bisexual.
	You date both men and women.
	You notice a lot of hidden homophobia.
	Okay, well, I'm not going to get into that.
	Okay, of course, dating and making content is interesting.
	Let's see, there was this one episode where it seemed girls cannot have guy friends when they're in a relationship.
	I have a lot of guy friends, and I understand why they would be why that would be a problem.
	I wouldn't fuck my friends.
	That's why they are my friends and not anything romantically involved.
	I find that weird.
	I agree with the statements of Brian about how women should not change too much about their body.
	I think the beauty standard is getting out of hand, and surgeries can come with complications.
	Women should learn to love their bodies instead of constantly try to make their boobs bigger, their belly smaller, their lips bigger, their ass, they're everything.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	And you forgot labia plasty, though.
	What's that?
	The labia, labia plasty.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, that's they chop their shit up.
	It's fucked up.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, no.
	Women should be.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I think the beauty standard is scary sometimes.
	I think it's good when people are open about what's fake, so you don't try to go after an ideal that isn't realistic.
	But I wonder how the next generations will be of girls with all the Instagram models and changes.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's cool that you sometimes mention that.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	You said, I do disagree with the host on his standpoint on OnlyFans is always bad.
	I don't have an OF and do really dislike how normalized it is on Twitch and having people asking for my nudes while I don't do that.
	When did this become normal to ask?
	However, I do think that girls that do OF should do whatever they want.
	Yeah, I think it's weird that when I'm playing World of Warcraft on Twitch, it's apparently now normal for people to walk into my chat and say, hey, what's your OnlyFans link?
	Do you have OnlyFans?
	Or send me DMs with like hey, if I give you 15 gift subs, will you show me your nudes?
	And I'm like that's not the content I make.
	I'm a game entertainer, I game, that's the content, so it's.
	It's a bit weird that it's being so normalized to just randomly ask people for their nudes and pay for it.
	But you said they should be able to do whatever they want.
	Essentially, no the like.
	I don't think there's something wrong with only fans, but I do think there's something wrong with people normalizing that that you can ask any girl about their private parts.
	Okay, I don't.
	I do think that's rude or inappropriate, I suppose.
	Is there, Jake?
	Is there a contradiction there or not?
	Really like?
	OnlyFans is totally cool.
	Yeah, sex work normal should be normalized.
	But also, how dare you, clutching your pearls, ask me for nudes?
	yeah no I got it okay answered your odd question okay yeah I don't know if that's necessarily a contradiction though like I don't play and well met Lol Paladins donated $100.02.
	Plus, it's that much harder to pink pause if there aren't legions of women out there great parsing to help inflate your score.
	Plus, society needs baby machines or civilization collapses.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Alright, guys, we're going to do a brief roast session and then we're going to wrap up the show.
	TTS is now 20.
	I'm going to get everything up.
	It is updated if you want to get them in.
	So TTS is now set to 20.
	Then we'll wrap up the show here in just 10 minutes or so.
	Get your roasts in.
	You need to roast Yayel.
	You need to roast Jake.
	You need to roast Ruby.
	You need to roast her.
	You need to roast her.
	She already got it pretty bad tonight, so maybe be easy on her.
	I have champagne now.
	Do you need more, by the way?
	Did we tap?
	This is the perfect amount.
	Did we tap the champagne?
	Okay.
	Guys, get your TTSs in.
	Get your roasts in.
	We are now entering the whatever roast segment.
	So get in, boys.
	And then any final thoughts from any of the panelists here?
	This is going to be an early show, I think.
	This is the earliest one I've seen.
	How long do you?
	What's the longest you've done?
	We went till like eight hours the other night.
	It was almost eight hours last night.
	This is right now.
	We're just at less than six hours.
	So it's going to be a short one tonight, I think.
	It's an early night.
	I just get so hungry.
	Yeah.
	Matt donated $20.
	Can you boost the audio?
	Redhead, shut the fuck up and make me a sandwich.
	Damn.
	Also, women deserve equal rights.
	Damn.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Appreciate the message.
	Bold Man Marine donated $20.
	Redhead should get back in the kitchen and stop sharing her opinion.
	Damn.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah, no, I saw that coming.
	Oh, we have some reacts we can do too while these come in.
	Why don't we do some of the reacts then?
	Let's do that one a little later.
	Let's do the tweets.
	Are there tweets?
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	I mean, can you really roast the Natsi?
	She's the one that wants us all to go off into the ovens so that we can be replaced by a more worthy culture.
	Boom, we're all roasted.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Yeah, you know, you know, it is what it is.
	Do you have a response to Lol Paladins?
	He's an oath breaker.
	Oathbreaker.
	Ooh, okay.
	How about that, Lol Paladins?
	You are an oath breaker, sir.
	Let's see here.
	Reacts, what do we have?
	Oh, okay.
	If I zoom in, make it bigger, please.
	Bunga Bunga donated $20.
	I'm pretty sure the girl in the pink on the far right is a guy.
	Do you have a penis?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	No, I don't.
	I'm a girl.
	Boom.
	You want to see?
	Thank you, Ungabunga.
	What the fuck?
	Is it because of my boobs?
	Damn, bro.
	Why y'all got why y'all sorry?
	I can't help it.
	Why y'all gotta be so as a representative of the itty bitty to the community?
	You guys gotta be nice.
	You know?
	Lauren Red reminds me of a Tupperware bowl that once held spaghetti.
	Raman donated $20.
	I would death smash crackhead Angelina Jolie.
	I think this is maybe about you think.
	Me?
	Yeah, do you have a response?
	Thanks.
	Yo, thank you.
	Rares and fast recovery to Mason.
	BTW, my wife, watches this and now goes here and they're due to your show.
	Thanks.
	I love it.
	Hey, uh, makes sense.
	Thank you, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Appreciate your first time tip there.
	Really appreciate it.
	React to mango worms.
	What it?
	I don't think I want that just doesn't sound right.
	I don't know.
	Let's do the reacts.
	Make it bigger, please.
	Wait, make it bigger.
	Make it bigger.
	Okay.
	Chad advertises criminal record for beating a woman, receives more than 800 matches.
	Sons of Liberty donated $20.
	Say no to Marxism and degeneracy.
	Say yes to Liberty.
	Vote Trump 2024.
	Oh, what?
	How's everybody voting in the election?
	Who are you voting for?
	A lot of us count.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	Undecided.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	I'm pretty sure the guy in the whatever hoodie is a guy also.
	I'm not sure though.
	Usually the whatever podcast has the biggest tatars in seat number one instead of the far left seat.
	Rude lol paladins, how dare you, sir?
	It's because you said you were a part of the itty bitty day committee.
	I didn't mean it like that.
	I just meant like I'm a I'm an ally.
	I took it like that.
	I'm an ally.
	You're sharp.
	Me?
	I think he was saying that you have bigger tits than I do.
	Yeah, that's what he was saying.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm just, but what I meant is I'm an ally.
	Like, for example, short dudes, I'm not, I'm six foot one, but I, like, I have the back of short, short men.
	Short kings.
	I will defend short man.
	Some guy underscore you underscore chair one donated twenty dollars and one cent.
	Chair one.
	You tucking your sack back.
	Also, Britson, I'm likely full-on fapping to your fat swinging mommy milkers.
	Quit hiding, M. Bro.
	Shout out to Mason and his family.
	Y'all will get through this.
	Yosh, uh, thank you, Uwo.
	Where is it?
	Uh, too slow.
	Okay.
	Um, appreciate it.
	Let's do the react real quick.
	Uh, repeal the night.
	Whoa, okay, oh my god.
	Kaiju donated $20.24.
	I'm playing Wow right now, named my dwarf Tyrion.
	The spelling Tyrion was taken, of course.
	Winter is coming.
	Tyrion is a character in World of Warcraft, but it's agent.
	Derek Flynn donated $20.
	Brian, give me your address immediately.
	That Mexican girl in the middle has an open deportation warrant, and I've been looking for her for a few weeks.
	How do you guys know?
	Old Man Maureen donated $20.
	Love your content, Jake.
	Always good to see you on the show.
	You should get a better tattoo artist, though.
	I know a good one.
	When are you leaving your fake country?
	My country exists, and thank you for your service.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Old Man Maureen.
	Let's see.
	Can we let's do the react super quick?
	Okay, so blonde underscore chick underscore 88 donated $20.
	I play COD, Im toxic but not trashy, etc.
	Not all women are the same.
	Host acts more like an emotional woman than I do.
	Desmond Stinky Chicken donated $20.
	My toxic Latina goes like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and comes back like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Oh boy.
	middle girl like like like like literally said like like three times like in a row for real like but like so why don't you tell us some more Like, what do you think about?
	What do you think about?
	Like, what are you trying to say?
	Gordita, Crunch Dumpy.
	Donated twenty dollars.
	Hide your cats, hide your dogs, hide your pets.
	They're eating your cats, They're eating the dogs, They're eating the pets.
	They're eating the pets.
	They're eating donated $20.
	You need to bring back Desire.
	Since I am certain that she hasn't shown her final form, I don't think I'd put her back on the panel.
	Like there's possibility I would do a one-on-one with her, kind of like how me and Andrew did it, because she just sucks.
	Well, hold on, she like takes up way too much of the.
	She just ruins the panels.
	No offense Desiree, if you're still watching thank you for the champagne.
	By the way, we're down to maybe do a one-on-one where I can like explore some of the other crazy shit, but otherwise yeah, no more dating talk panels.
	Pretty poor feedback on no offense desires, just it is what it is.
	So what are your?
	What are your thoughts on?
	Um, the uh, the uh, Operation Barbarossa?
	No, White Knights, donated twenty dollars.
	Tell the young man in the pink that she might fool some Americans, but she would never fool anyone in Thailand.
	Oof.
	Oof.
	That's...
	It's rough.
	Hi Brian, i'd be more entertaining than you.
	Well, why don't you send us a dm on uh on instagram and we'll get you on the show?
	Just at whatever on instagram, we'll get you on the show.
	Thank you Marley, appreciate it.
	Uh, let's see here.
	Uh, let's.
	Can we do the reacts?
	Can we do the react?
	Okay, pull up the first image, click the first image.
	Okay, so he, he says, by the way, this is, I guess, fake image.
	I have a criminal record for beating a woman, but we all have a past.
	And then, like all these girls messaged, messaged him.
	Like that first second girl says, good, what can I say?
	What's your favorite in Italian dish?
	Hey handsome, uh.
	Next image, I got asked about this.
	Oh okay, I gotta ask about this criminal record of yours.
	I'm intrigued, to say the least.
	She caught me cheating, but this was years ago.
	I have to be honest and i'm not the same.
	I'll give credit where credit's due.
	I appreciate the honesty.
	Okay, she's trying to fuck next.
	Uh, will we make an exception?
	Blah blah blah um uh okay, she's trying to like hit.
	Okay, next.
	do you want to make another half blank half italian baby my apartment yes okay and then go back to the first one i have a criminal record for beating a woman but we all have a past is this like fake or is it real well i mean that's not a real guy some person just took a picture and made a fake profile yeah that's real but like all the all that stuff that's that's real faux
	that's all real uh damn that's crazy no white knights donated twenty dollars don't get excited young man in the pink the guy who beats girls isn't gay so don't dm him
	do you have a response i don't know what's happening i'm confused me too it's very confusing um next let's next react oh this is brutal can uh can i have you read it for us Okay, my girlfriend told me that I have what's called a boyfriend dick.
	So me and my girlfriend were laying in bed and talking about sex.
	She brought up penis size, which is something I don't usually like to bring up because I think nothing good can come of it.
	Well, she asked me what I thought of my size and I said I think it's a good size.
	So I asked her what she thought of it and she said I have a boyfriend dick.
	I was confused when I heard this and asked what she meant.
	She said that it's the perfect size for a long-term relationship, but for a one-night stand or casual friends with benefits, it would be a bit lacking.
	I was taken back by this comment and left the room.
	When I came back, I told her the comment bothered me and she assured me that she was satisfied and that my penis is fine.
	She said bigger dicks need time to recover from and require too much prep.
	This didn't help at all.
	It's been a week since the comment, but I can't seem to shake it.
	Damn.
	Damn.
	Run.
	Damn.
	React to humor bagel.
	I'm not sure what that is.
	Bath Alicia.
	Damn.
	Next react.
	Oh, I think we already have this one.
	Is there another one?
	Yeah, we just did that one.
	No.
	That's it.
	That's it, yeah.
	I thought there was a YouTube video.
	The explosion the dark side of honor maybe.
	Yeah, we can do that one really quick.
	I'll let these come through first.
	Guys, get your last comment.
	Chinese matter donated $20.
	Hope Mason has a full recovery.
	Desiree upgraded from an upper case L to a lower case L for her contribution for Mason's recovery.
	That's fair.
	Also, shut a feck up Desiree.
	Giovanni JD donated $20.
	Girl on the right is only less attractive than the chick next to Brian.
	Not sure why she's getting so much hate.
	She's clearly very attractive.
	Young men have awful taste.
	Oh, Giovanni, he's an attorney.
	There's only two things I hate in this world.
	People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
	Also, where did you guys get might in the profile?
	Some guy underscore you will underscore chair one donated twenty dollars and one cent.
	Why are you so confused?
	It must be uncomfortable sitting on that.
	Is it under theft thigh or the right?
	Armenian Apostolic donated twenty dollars.
	Yeah, thank you.
	First time donation.
	Sorry, no roast.
	W Brian, W Jake, W Maddie, love you guys.
	You're all beautiful.
	I pray Mason makes a full recovery.
	What about Yael?
	Is there a W for Yael or does she not get one yet?
	I don't got one.
	Yo, Armenian, thank you, man.
	Really appreciate the support.
	Let's see.
	Let's do the React.
	Let's do the video.
	Yeah, let's do the full screen video.
	Why not?
	And yeah, a video tab, please.
	Right.
	Yeah, wait it help why oh my god you guys weren't paying you guys weren't paying attention to that For like the entire video Hello?
	Huh?
	We didn't have the chat up.
	Okay, sorry.
	Yo, sorry, chat.
	I'm pretty sure I know what happened.
	I'm very sorry, chat.
	I'll have to fix it after the show.
	We can't really replay the video, but I'll just recap what happened.
	We'll play it next show.
	Essentially, he's interviewing these girls, and they claim to be the two girls claim to be virgins, and he kind of questions that they're virgins because they're out kind of in a club environment.
	And then also, based off the way they dressed, Jake, do you think they were telling the truth?
	Do you think those two girls were virgins?
	They were absolutely not virgins.
	There was no chance in God's green earth that they were virgins.
	And then the other thing was I think the other component here is I'm pretty sure the girl on the on the right had nipple piercings.
	It looked that way.
	There was a bulge.
	And I'm like has a girl, like, maybe it's possible, but like no, it's not possible.
	In the history of humanity, as a woman.
	No, the way they said at the start, when she was like, I'm a virgin, and she did them like, they were joking.
	It was like her eye contact and her body language made me not believe it, but their outfits weren't like slutty.
	A little bit.
	Maybe just a teeny bit.
	Yeah, like long maxi skirts.
	They're like tight, but the one on the left was a bit more modest than the one on the right.
	But like, in the history of humanity, has there ever been a woman who's a virgin who has nipple piercings?
	And also, probably mid to late 20s, tatted up, revealing clothes in Miami at the club.
	Give me a break.
	It's not a revealing outfit.
	Not to you.
	Maybe not for you, but to the rest of the world.
	And wait, one question for the chat.
	Was there no audio at all?
	Like, could you not hear us?
	I'm assuming that you couldn't hear us at all.
	Is that correct, chat?
	You could not hear even us.
	It was just total silence, right?
	They're saying that.
	Only desktop audio is muted.
	Okay.
	I'll have to.
	Something must have got messed up before the stream.
	I'll fix it.
	Sorry, guys.
	Sorry about that.
	We'll get that fixed.
	We'll let the rest of the roast come through, then we'll wrap up the show.
	Brian's Dumpy donated $20.
	Damn son.
	All that jelly and no toast.
	What does that mean?
	Please give the panel a twirl.
	He wants to see whose?
	Old man Loren donated $20.
	Everything is muted, so unprofessional Brixam.
	There's also lint on your shirt.
	Fuck, you're right.
	My bad.
	Ah, boy.
	Okay.
	Well, fucking shit show whatever podcast.
	Typical.
	Christopher Scott donated $20.
	My bad, boys.
	There's no audio, Brian.
	We had TTS turned off too.
	Fuck, my bad, boys.
	My bad.
	Ah, okay.
	Thank you.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Good job, Nick.
	You're fired.
	It's Austin.
	It's Austin back there.
	It's Mason.
	It's Mason.
	It's not Austin's fault.
	It wasn't Austin's fault.
	Something got tweaked in Abyssinia.
	Matt donated $20.
	Would you rather have democracy or access to abortions?
	Okay, we'll go around the table really quick.
	Would you rather have democracy or access to abortions?
	The ability to be able to vote in an election.
	So you want to be able to vote or have abortions?
	So democracy.
	Probably to vote because then you could vote for abortions.
	No, but so in the democracy, you would not be allowed to have democracy's ability to vote.
	Let's say in the democracy, there's no abortion.
	Just for the sake of the question.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	But you get to vote.
	Yeah, you get to vote.
	Policies and everything else.
	But just probably democracy.
	Okay.
	It's a tough one.
	I think also democracy then?
	I'm not getting in there.
	Political conversation.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That is a hard question, but I would say democracy.
	Democracy.
	Obviously.
	No, I don't really like either of them, but democracy.
	Yeah.
	You're more of a dictator kind of guy?
	Yes.
	Definitely.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	Christian Kim Jong-un.
	Imagine that.
	Ken Tai Kim donated $20.
	She is a virgin in the front.
	I've never heard it put that way, but alright, that's an interesting way to frame it.
	Hentai can't calm me.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, sir.
	Some guy underscore you will underscore chair one donated twenty dollars and one cent.
	Brixon, FN Fail, hit the gym.
	Chair one.
	I've had a few beers.
	I'd hit it from behind, but you need to hold the boys up so our speed bags don't bounce together.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Not slutty dressed number one.
	You're effing crazy.
	We've seen Brian live stream from Isla Vista Streets.
	You have women literally walking around outdoors in lingerie that I SNT normal.
	White Knights donated $20.
	I like a single mom.
	We've been hanging out for a few weeks.
	She had a few FWB in recent months.
	I want to be exclusive going forward.
	How should I address this without it coming off root or judging?
	I like a single mom.
	We've been hanging out for a few weeks.
	She had a few friends with benefits.
	I want to be exclusive going forward.
	How should I address this without it coming off root or judging?
	I don't know how you could be rude or judgy by telling someone to stop having sex with other people while you're dating them.
	If they don't accept that, then do they have no respect for you and get out of the ASAP.
	Let me just make this even easier.
	Instead of like trying to navigate what should I do, what should I not do when it comes to this specific thing?
	Bro, don't date this woman.
	Just move on.
	You said you like a single mom hanging out for a few weeks.
	She's fucking other men.
	And a few.
	If a few.
	She's had a few, dude.
	Hold on.
	She belongs to the streets.
	White Knights for the Wind.
	Bro, just find another girl.
	Find another single mom that's not a trumpet.
	And if you really like her, then ask her to be exclusive.
	Ew.
	Oh, if he really likes her ass, or like, how recent was it?
	She said she had a few friends with benefits in recent months.
	It's a raw deal.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Best way to date a single mother.
	Treat her children like they'd be treated in a lion pride.
	Wait.
	So killed?
	Wait, what?
	Wait, treat?
	Because doesn't like the male lion, if he enters like another tribe, or wait, fuck, I don't know how it fucking goes.
	Don't they like kill the competing males?
	The lions?
	Lots of kids are out there.
	That would be don't.
	I don't know how.
	I don't know about lion.
	Fucking the whatever lion dating podcast.
	That'd be interesting.
	The lion dating podcast.
	We should just get a bunch of fucking lions here at the table and they just can fucking roar the entire time.
	We should get bear.
	We should put some April Fools will put bears at the table and they can that'll be the whole stream.
	Three hours just some bears fucking shit up in here, pooping on the table and shit.
	It's gonna be fucking crazy.
	Then if they're smaller.
	Cat fights.
	Yeah, it'd be cool to just bring in some cats and cats.
	Yo, you want your cats to fight?
	No.
	Oh, can you scoot your mic to the very edge of the table, please?
	Me and I remember.
	By the way, I can't see the mic, so just somebody else point that out next time.
	Roth Thunderscore PSA donated $20.
	Real men don't cry during movies.
	A man saying I love you too early is the same as a woman saying I want to get married.
	Biggest tick.
	Yo, Rat, thank you for the message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you, everybody else, who sent in some messages.
	What the fuck?
	Tickle tickle incoming tickle attack.
	By the way, if you want CTS, you got to do it through Streamlabs.
	Also, really quick, I'm going to change the Streamlabs voice to Dutch.
	No.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Yes, that is exactly how that happens, you uneducated kids.
	A new male lion kills off every other cup from the previous male.
	Jokes are funnier when you have to explain them.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins.
	Pretty sure all the supports are.
	Donde esta le biblioteca.
	Okay, I changed the.
	It's now in Dutch, so we have two Dutch women here.
	If you want to send in a TTS in like the Dutch accent, whatever, go do it.
	Let's see.
	What else do we let me do the outro stuff really quick?
	Let's see here.
	We're going to wrap up.
	Guys, last call, last call on the On if you want to put in a roast, we still have not gotten the roast on Yael.
	You guys need to roast her.
	She's uh she's she needs a roast.
	Last call on those.
	Okay, thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Uh, is there are you sure there's no other reacts?
	the bow video okay really quick, fuck it, play it all good Democracy was mentioned negatively in our declaration because it's mature to you, regardless of all crime.
	Founding fathers, thank you I don't even I just want to support Mason Jake will be supporting his girl.
	Oh my bro, single mom syndrome.
	She did not have dating prospects before he came along.
	That's all she slept with guys because she died was house.
	They're loving the Dutch accent, but it's a very Dutch accent.
	One more, one more, and I'll switch it to a Mexican.
	She's literally the definition of a toxic human being.
	Interesting, almost all women find it hard to choose freedom or delays of their baby.
	Oh, that one came through pretty clear.
	Thank you, man.
	appreciate it.
	Black-haired Dutch woman calling things toxic.
	She's literally the definition of a toxic human being.
	Yeah, I mean, if you think that way, I mean, it's like I said, we're like opposites, right?
	So, probably from your perspective, I'm toxic, so that's fine.
	I mean, you can have your opinion.
	I don't mind.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Have you ever slashed a guy's tires?
	No, why would I do that?
	Revenge?
	No, that's toxic.
	Oh, okay.
	You've never done anything toxic ever?
	No, I've never been in trouble or anything.
	No, okay.
	All right.
	Let me just double-check a couple things here.
	Okay.
	Final thing, I'll just do one last mention of this.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the prime sub, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the prime sub.
	If you can, before you exit, maybe you guys can check if you have a prime sub available.
	Because, like I said, we are giving 50% of all earnings from Super Chats, TTS, Twitch subs, Prime subs.
	We're going to be donating that to Mason from tonight's stream.
	You can go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	If you enjoyed the show, drop us a follow.
	It's just an easy way to support us.
	Even if you watch on YouTube, if you've got a Twitch account, just drop us a follow on Twitch.
	And CJ, think for the Prime, Zach, thing for the Prime.
	Just check before we wrap up the show here.
	If you have a Prime sub available, would very much appreciate it.
	And it is going to go to Mason, also our Discord, discord.gg/slash whatever.
	We post a lot of BTS stuff on there most recently.
	Last week, we had a kickoff kick off, kick out.
	This crazy girl refused to leave.
	She fucking, oh, what did she do, man?
	She accused us of like kidnapping her or something, even though we were like, can you please leave?
	And she's like, oh my god, they're holding me here against my will.
	Like tonight?
	Exactly.
	No, it's totally different.
	She got kicked off the show and we're like, yo, get the fuck out.
	Then she wouldn't leave.
	So we posted the BTS of that.
	Also, the crazy, fake, conservative Christian OF girl from Sunday show, we posted to the discord this photo showing proof that she was lying about everything that she was talking about.
	Some other people were like posting evidence in like some of the one of the other channels in our Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.
	Guys, join the Discord.
	And then also, as far as I know, the show's over.
	If you want, you can get a last-minute roast in and then any TTS's super chats.
	I paused it temporarily.
	Just want to do one final reminder about this fundraiser that we're helping out Mason with.
	Can you pull up the Instagram post just so people who don't know?
	If you saw in the bottom, the corner over here, Mason medical expenses.
	He was in a very serious motorcycle accident.
	We're contributing.
	Yeah.
	So a couple days ago, it was a life-threatening motorcycle accident.
	So he's in bad shape.
	He posted this to his Instagram.
	I've been in touch with them.
	We're going to help out as best as we can.
	Don't show that.
	Don't show that.
	Can you just hide that?
	Oh, bro.
	Intel Wild.
	A little time and place, man.
	So there's a thing.
	Can you pull up the other page, though?
	So guys, if you can't support, just do a little prayer for Mason or something.
	But there's this page after we get off the stream.
	If you want to support, you can go there.
	Give Sen go.
	And yeah, and yeah, if you can pull that up really quick.
	So, yeah, 50% of all the fan funding from tonight.
	That's all the super chats, TTS, membership, switch subs.
	We're going to send to that thing to Mason for hopefully to help out with medical expenses and stuff.
	So wishing Mason godspeed and his recovery.
	Super bummer.
	He's been on the show a bunch.
	Good friends of the show.
	Had many good dinners after the show with him in and out getting fat.
	So, well, he didn't get fat.
	I got fat.
	But anyways, if you guys can support, we'll be sending that over, everything from the show.
	But if you're catching this after we've finished the live or whatever, you can feel free to just go straight to him.
	You can send him a Venmo.
	You can do the thing, whatever it is.
	So appreciate all your guys' support tonight.
	I'm going to let the rest come through and then we're going to wrap.
	Both man Marin donated 20 dollars.
	And your eyebrows aren't as good as anything.
	Best brows on the stream by far.
	Boom, roasted.
	Spicy Latina.
	No white knights donated bente dollares.
	If anyone's building a house and they run out of dos by Quatro, then they could like rally, just grab the girl in pink.
	What?
	Love long paladins and big labias.
	Thank you, no white knights.
	Appreciate it.
	Big labia matter.
	I only date women with large labia.
	You all suck, except Maddie and the stunning one next to her.
	All that they don't need to do a location.
	Love listening to the great convo.
	Big fun for sure.
	And stop hating on the nurse.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, man.
	Doncat donated 20 pesos.
	She may play a rogue, but aside from that, it's exactly the opposite of toxic.
	Wait, that guy sounds...
	That guy's not Mexican.
	He's fake.
	He's a fake Mexican.
	Unbelievable.
	Let's do.
	Why don't we do this?
	What the verfan donated bente pesos?
	Love the show, but I ain't got any team.
	Thank you.
	Keep up the great work.
	Hey, hey.
	It's like the most American sound.
	Did they get to pick the accent?
	I'm just changing it randomly.
	Whatever, Finn, thank you.
	GMD Jam donated RGMAN.
	Never date a single mom.
	Period.
	They bring way too much baggage.
	The kids will love and resent you because you are not their dad and he will most likely interfere.
	Start your only family.
	Is that Japanese?
	I think it was Chinese.
	Yeah.
	It's interesting how that works.
	Yeah, thank you guys for all the subs.
	Why don't you pull the Twitch up really so I just can thank them super quick for everybody who sent in the prime.
	The primes, the Twitch primes are also going to do the proportionate distribution also for these.
	So Bev, thank you for the prime.
	Brian Wong, thank you for the prime.
	Lars, thank you for the prime.
	Lars, thank you for large.
	Thank you for the prime.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Okay, I think we're going to wrap there.
	I changed it to Gregory if anybody wants to send in the final T, well, if more come in, but you can send in.
	So, okay.
	GG.
	Fuck, too slow.
	GG.
	Well played.
	To the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	No white knights donated $20.
	All nurses are crazy, and I swear they all have the smallest labias.
	It's disgusting.
	How do you know?
	You date a lot of nurses?
	Are you asking a year?
	No, this person over here.
	He's also a big labia enjoyer.
	Donated, donated, donated, donated $20.
	Those two are as much as a virgin, as much as Desiree is quite.
	Yayo, shut ya.
	I didn't say anything.
	Oh, wait, non-frame.
	I didn't say anything.
	That was the joke.
	Oh, that's the.
	Oh.
	Yeah, let's see here.
	So, thank you, everybody, for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Really means the world guy.
	Sorry, it's late.
	I'm losing my mind.
	Really means the world.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	And thank you guys also for supporting and just kind of helping out with this whole Mason thing.
	We will be live again.
	Sunday.
	We might be doing some more IRL stuff.
	So we might be live sooner than Sunday, but we'll be back again Sunday.
	Jake will be here.
	I'm pretty sure we got Andrew in studio, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out, whatever.
	On Instagram, if you can make it to Santa Barbara 07s in the chat, we're going to do a Twitch raid.
	Armenian Apostolic donated $20.
	Yeah, thank you, man.
	YL?
	Pretty sure I butchered your name.
	Sorry.
	But a W for you too.
	You do get one smile.
	BTW chair one, you're pretty, and have a good attitude.
	Hashtag Christie's King.
	There you go.
	Thank you.
	Also, I want to say W to Gabby.
	Do you prefer Gabby or Gabrielle?
	Gabby.
	Gabby.
	She was going to leave an hour ago, but she's a fucking trooper.
	I just needed some champagne.
	She's a trooper.
	She made it to the end of the show.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you for saying.
	So congrats.
	So W, Gabby, in the chat.
	Waggy.
	Wait.
	Wabby.
	Wabby in the chat.
	Wabby in the chat.
	Okay.
	We're on Twitch.
	Austin, we're going to raid Frost Adamas.
	So guys, thank you all for watching on Twitch.
	Those of you who are watching on Twitch.
	Right before we do the raid, check if you can follow.
	Check if you can do a prime sub.
	But he's playing World of Warcraft Classic Era.
	And so you can play the audio.
	I'm gonna send that out in 10 seconds here, guys.
	We didn't do the bow video, but oh shit, wait, hold on.
	L to the blank star who couldn't go to the diselina.
	Big L to Selena.
	She could have.
	Not a trooper, man.
	Not a trooper.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Lol Palamins.
	Okay.
	He's playing Classic Era.
	We're going to send a raid over there.
	He's playing.
	Is he a rogue?
	He's a rogue.
	He looks like he's in a Shara.
	So he's like, what?
	I can't see his level, 50-something.
	All right.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	I hope you enjoy Frost of Donna's stream.
	He lives in Romania.
	Tell him he should ask him what he thinks about Andrew Tate and tell him he should come on the podcast.
	He's got like 13 people watching right now.
	So maybe we're going to help out a little bit.
	Romanian World of Warcraft streamer.
	It's probably like super early in the morning over there.
	So he's just waking up, just started a stream.
	So go show him some love.
	I'm going to send the raid over.
	Thank you guys again for watching on Twitch.
	Gonna send the raid now.
	Thank you guys again.
	And then leave that up.
	We'll just see what he's got to say.
	He's playing an Ashara.
	He's going around on his Undead Rogue W.
	I played an Undead Rogue, guys.
	Ryan, good morning.
	I played an undead rogue.
	My first character was undead video.
	Mr. Lever.
	Bro Ryan 69.
	Nice.
	69.
	Undead's not min-max, though.
	Canadian bacon.
	No, but it's his first character that I'm picking.
	Smoke enjoyer.
	Mr. Wrong.
	Hey, welcome, everyone.
	Anyways, yeah, that's where his computer setup is.
	It's in his kitchen.
	All right.
	Anyways, you can pause that.
	Oh, I think, all right.
	I think that's it, guys.
	So, guys, like the video on the way out.
	I hope you enjoyed the stream.
	It's probably one of our shortest streams.
	I don't know in how long.
	Wait, let me.
	I'm really curious to see.
	Really quick.
	Hmm.
	Let's see here.
	I mean, not counting the IRL streams.
	Board of debates.
	Yeah.
	Holy, I mean.
	It's been years.
	And normally you go to like eight hours.
	It's been, I think, three months.
	So there was the Rachel Wilson episode.
	That was a six-hour and 20-minute stream three months ago when Rachel Wilson is in the studio.
	We did.
	Okay, so it's been three months.
	This is going to be our shortest stream in three months.
	So you guys lucked out.
	All right, guys.
	I think that's it, right?
	Any final thoughts?
	I think we're good.
	Okay.
	All right, we're good.
	Okay.
	What am I forgetting?
	No, we got everything.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	07's in the chat, guys.
	Like the video on your way out, please.
	I hope you guys have a really good night.
	We'll see you on Sunday with our next dating talk.

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