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BBW Roster?! Fake Conservative God Fearing ØNLYFANS Girl EXPOSED As Liar?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #196

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	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
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	I'm Eva.
	I'm 20, and I'm from Los Angeles, and I'm a student.
	All right.
	What do you study?
	Political science.
	Okay.
	What do you want to go into pre-law?
	You want to become a lawyer?
	Yeah.
	Do you know what kind of law?
	I think corporate law.
	Corporate law.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm Brenna Black.
	I am CEO of Blackheart Lingerie.
	I'm the CEO of Blackheart Lingerie.
	I'm a lingerie and swim model and a creative director.
	Age?
	28.
	And I'm from Houston, Texas.
	Any school?
	I went to UT.
	Got your bachelor's?
	No, I didn't finish.
	Came out here and became a broadcast journalist.
	What did you study while you were there?
	Broadcast journalism.
	Makes sense, makes sense.
	And then for content creation, what do you do?
	For content creation, I create works of art, post them on my Instagram, like glossy magazine-style photo shoots.
	And you do OnlyFans, is that correct?
	I do have an OnlyFans.
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	Sexy, lingerie, nothing vulgar.
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	No.
	No, okay.
	Scenes with women?
	Nope.
	Nudity?
	Some.
	Some?
	Okay.
	My name is Lindsay.
	Welcome, Hunt.
	Just based out.
	I am 20 years old.
	I'm in the music industry.
	I DJ in produced music.
	School?
	I went to community college.
	What were you studying?
	Psych.
	And you DJ.
	Do you sing at all or anything?
	I do sing.
	I have some music I'm working on right now.
	Let's hear something.
	Let's hear something?
	Yeah, just start singing in front of 10 people.
	I'm trying to even think what I. Get back to me on that.
	I can't think.
	The audio is still muted.
	Just FYI.
	Has it been fixed?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Paula.
	I'm from Boston, Massachusetts.
	I'm 36 years old, and I own a dog training company.
	I'm kind of from all over the place.
	I'm prior military, so I moved around a lot and kind of from all over.
	Which branch of the military?
	I was in the Marine Corps.
	Marine Corps.
	Okay.
	Enlisted officer?
	Enlisted.
	How long were you in the military?
	Eight years.
	What was your rank when you discharged?
	Staff Sergeant.
	Staff Sergeant.
	Okay, welcome.
	What about you?
	Hello.
	My name is Lindsay.
	I'm from originally Illinois, and I live in southern Orange County, and I'm a sales director for InstaSculpting.
	All right.
	And I'm 36.
	36.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	What about you?
	My name is Athena.
	I am 36 years old from Texas.
	I have a little homestead farm.
	I'm working on starting a farm-to-table food truck.
	I also have a small construction business, and I'm working on publishing my first children's book this year.
	Just a question, your glasses, are they prescription?
	They are.
	Okay, how bad's your vision?
	I think it's bad.
	I can't drive without them.
	Okay, just wondering.
	What about you?
	My name is Chris.
	I am 51.
	I was born in Los Angeles, grew up in Lancaster, and settled in Temecula.
	I am a content creator.
	My umbrella company is called the Pink Pill.
	I have a channel called that name and choruses, and I've also launched a body care company called Watered Body Care.
	And also the co-author of Swirling.
	I gave that to you earlier.
	I give it a book.
	The book, yeah, thank you.
	I signed it.
	What is, so what's the book?
	Swirling, How to Date, Mate, and Relate, Mixing Race, Culture, and Creed.
	It's all about interracial relationships from a black woman's perspective.
	Okay, well, we'll certainly get into that a bit later on in the show.
	And then, are you the one in like the YouTube chat?
	I sometimes see the pink pill.
	Is that you?
	That's me.
	All right, so you're one of the chatters.
	All right, very cool.
	And shout out to the chatters.
	I told you I would shout them out.
	Boom.
	Hey, guys.
	What about you?
	My name is Alexis.
	I am 34 years old.
	I am a full-time stay-at-home wife and mother, and I also work full-time from home as an office manager/slash corporate secretary for my family-owned business.
	And you said 35, right?
	34.
	I'll be 35 at the end of the month, so 35, I guess.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, I'll be 34.
	Yep, my name is Jake.
	28 years old, YouTube channel called Rattlesnake TV, podcast reality-based, and that's about it for me.
	All right, my name is Brian Atlas, 35, Santa Barbara, California.
	Over the hill, YouTuber, I guess.
	Going around the table once more, what is everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship married, polycule sex, call tarum, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting with you?
	Go ahead.
	Sorry, is the audio muted?
	No, I don't think so.
	We just had the TTS not come through.
	One sec.
	That's peculiar.
	Go ahead with your relationship status, please.
	I'm single, and I've been single since last October.
	And my longest relationship was like a year, I think.
	I am also single, and I've been single for three years.
	My longest relationship was seven years.
	And I was in an engagement that ended in that seven-year relationship.
	I am currently single.
	My longest relationship was like three, four years on and off.
	And I've been single for about a year.
	I'm also currently single.
	I've been single for two years.
	My longest relationship was 11 years.
	And that was with my ex-husband.
	So I'm divorced.
	And that's that.
	I apologize.
	I need everybody to repeat there.
	That was not the appropriate.
	Okay, please start again.
	Intros.
	Oh, relationship status.
	Relationship status.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, I'm single.
	I've been single since last October, and I think my longest relationship was like maybe a year and two months.
	So you've been single for about a year?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Longest relationship?
	A year.
	In like two months, maybe.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My last relationship was three years ago, which was an engagement to a man that I dated for seven years.
	Okay.
	So longest relationship, seven years.
	Engaged, never married?
	Yep.
	And you said you've been single for three years.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm currently single.
	My longest relationship was three, four years on and off, and I've been single for around a year.
	All right.
	And you were on the show about a month ago.
	Any prospects since the last time you were on the show?
	Same old roster.
	Still a roster?
	Changed up the roster a little bit though.
	Weren't you involved with a man who was also involved with your mom?
	What?
	That's so not me.
	Or wait, who was the guy who.
	No, your roommate, excuse me, right?
	My roommate.
	I moved actually.
	We're not roommates.
	Not your mom.
	You were involved with the guy who was involved with your roommate.
	Oh, right.
	Is that correct?
	That was Kirk.
	That was me, not my mom.
	Did everybody know about it?
	What?
	Did everybody know what was going on or was someone out of the loop?
	Oh, it wasn't like we were dating or anything.
	No one was dating.
	It was just...
	So your roommate's a girl?
	Was, yes.
	Was a girl?
	Yeah.
	And you guys just knew that you were both with the same guy.
	Correct.
	He moved in with those.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Did you share rooms Monday with you, Tuesday with your friend?
	Exactly.
	It was like every other day, you know, switch it up, back massages for both before bed, little bedtime story.
	It was a great, great.
	Sounds like a giving man.
	So do you not get jealous at all?
	Kill of cereal.
	I'm trying to figure out why the TTS isn't working.
	No, we weren't.
	No one was ever going to date.
	He's still one of my best friends.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	It was over last night.
	Wait, he was the porn guy?
	The porn guy.
	He was over last night?
	He's over every day.
	we cook, we're on our, meth, yeah, we sell it.
	Adderall Levine was my nickname last time.
	Adderall Levine.
	There you go.
	That's it.
	No, we follow a strict diet, so we're always cooking together.
	But did you guys hook up last night?
	A few nights ago.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let them cook.
	Kiss and tell.
	There you go.
	And did we talk about your on-again, off-again relationship last episode?
	With who?
	Which one?
	You've had multiple.
	Well, you said you were in a three to four year relationship, which is.
	Oh, yeah, we talked about it last time, just on and off.
	How many, just remind me, how many times was it on and off again?
	Three, four.
	I told you uncountable.
	It was like a, it was basically just using drugs.
	I mean, it wasn't.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am single.
	I've been single for two years, and my longest relationship was 11 years.
	Were you married?
	Yes.
	How long were you married in the 11-year relationship?
	11 years.
	How long?
	Oh, okay.
	How long were you guys together?
	11 years.
	Was it a Vegas wedding?
	I don't know.
	We got married three months after we met.
	Okay, I see.
	Okay.
	Kids?
	Yes.
	From the marriage?
	Yes.
	Okay, so you're divorced, I'm assuming.
	When was the divorce?
	2021.
	Okay.
	And so you said you've been single for two years.
	Have you dated any other guys since the divorce?
	I had a longer-term relationship in between that time.
	Got it.
	You said kids?
	Yes.
	From just one father?
	Correct.
	How many kids?
	Two.
	I took some MILF.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi.
	I am single.
	My longest relationship was three and a half years.
	I'm not dating anyone.
	What was the other question with that?
	How long have you been single for?
	Oh, since November of last year.
	Ten months, we'll say.
	All right.
	Longest relationship, 3.5 years.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Was that on again, off again, or pretty.
	I mean, there was.
	I was off, on and off, but not in two.
	More so just out of frustration of moments, differences.
	Okay.
	So are there any guys currently in the picture?
	No.
	None?
	No.
	Dating apps?
	Nope.
	Last time you were on a date?
	Three and a half years ago before he dated my son's father.
	But you said you've been single for 10 months, so I'm assuming 10 months ago you were seeing somebody?
	No.
	I have not seen anybody whatsoever.
	Oh, the 3.5-year relationship ended 10 months ago?
	Yes, in November.
	I see.
	And that's the father of your kids.
	My son, yeah, my son.
	How many kids do you have?
	I have one.
	I took some MILF.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, sorry.
	That was Austin who pressed me.
	He's a year and a half.
	Okay.
	Not married, though?
	No.
	Okay.
	No date since then?
	In 10 months?
	No.
	No one in the past.
	No guys in the picture.
	No rebound?
	Absolutely not.
	Zero rebound?
	No.
	Zero rebound.
	I swear, no.
	Believe me.
	She's not lying.
	Or he's watching.
	Anybody at any time?
	No, I don't care.
	Anybody approached you?
	Absolutely.
	Of course.
	Well, you just kick him to the cab?
	You know, I it's not really kicking to the curb.
	I'm just really not.
	Because we can't stop.
	I just don't think I'm ready to just state right now.
	I have goals within myself, and I have a child.
	So it's kind of a different life transition.
	And I don't want to waste anyone else's time when I'm, you know, essentially not there.
	But if it happens, it'll happen organically, is kind of where my brain's at with it.
	Fair.
	My turn?
	Yeah, yes.
	Your turn.
	Or wait, who broke up with who?
	I left.
	It was me.
	Why?
	It wasn't going to go anywhere in the direction I needed to.
	And I'm 36 years old and I have a child.
	And, you know, I got to make better choices per you.
	Were you guys living together?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And is he involved with your son?
	Yes.
	Do you guys have split custody?
	No.
	You have full custody?
	My son is with me, lives with me full-time, but his dad does have certain days that, you know, work out.
	And has this gone through the court system?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	So you guys just have a mutual understanding?
	For now.
	Essentially.
	For now.
	Yeah.
	Are you seeking for this to go to the court?
	I mean, nobody wants, nobody enjoys going to court.
	Period.
	Does he pay child support?
	He doesn't pay child support, you know, because we haven't gone to court, but he does help out here and there with certain aspects of our.
	Our son goes to a little school because I do have to work full-time given the new circumstances.
	So he does help out with that.
	And just when I say child support, I don't necessarily mean child support.
	Okay.
	That is through the court, but you could have come to some sort of arrangement where he's essentially just paying you.
	$1,000, $2,000 a month, something like that.
	He will, that he helps with.
	Oh, like shared expenses?
	Like he'll be able to get away from the corporate.
	With our son's school.
	Is it private school?
	No, it's more so of like a homeschool group.
	Just, I delay certain things with my son's medical stuff, so I don't go into a normal daycare given the circumstances of those delays.
	Do you not vaccinated?
	What?
	Do you not vaccinated?
	No.
	I was going to say based.
	Anyway.
	You were going to say what?
	Anyways, so going back to you, you have two kids, right?
	Yes.
	Shared custody with the father?
	Yes, 50-50.
	Okay.
	Through the court or no?
	Yes, through the court.
	Who brought it to court, you or him?
	It was mutual.
	Mutual?
	Really?
	Yes.
	Mutual to the court.
	We just both kind of decided that we weren't the right fit for each other and it just wasn't going anywhere.
	And so we filed for a separation and it went through the court system in terms of making the arrangements.
	Because you guys were married, yeah.
	So you had to go through the court to get the divorce.
	Okay, and then that you probably bundled in the child custody component there.
	Child custody agreement, yeah.
	Does he pay child support to you?
	He does.
	Okay.
	And just curious how much?
	I'm not going to put a number on it, but it's not enough.
	I live in Boston.
	It's very, very expensive to live.
	Boston.
	Did my accent come out?
	I'm not even from there.
	I'm from Chicago.
	Oh, okay.
	We actually just saw each other after 19 years.
	We were best friends.
	She flew out to visit me to come here.
	Oh, shit.
	I peer-pressured her.
	Reunion.
	Reunion.
	Yeah, we were best friends in high school.
	Here we are.
	What about you?
	Single since New Year's, this past New Year's.
	I've gone on dates and stuff.
	I try to keep things like casual.
	I just want to get to know someone before jumping into anything.
	Let's see.
	My longest relationship was eight and a half years with my ex-husband.
	We did uncontested divorce.
	He just recently started paying child support, which is kind of helpful.
	Yeah.
	He sees them when he can.
	How many kids do you have?
	One.
	Just one.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Who initiated the divorce?
	He asked me to do all the filing.
	He was like, you just do it and then I'll sign it.
	But it was a mutual thing.
	Mutual split?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm currently in a relationship.
	My longest relationship was for 20 years, over 20 years.
	I was married and divorced.
	And I recently got a promise ring.
	Oh.
	Congratulations.
	How long have you been in your current relationship?
	Next month, it'll be a year since we met.
	Any kids?
	With him?
	No.
	Or just in general?
	In general?
	Yes, I have four.
	Four kids?
	Same father?
	No, one of them is with someone different.
	So three kids from one father, one kid from another father.
	But none from your current one-year relationship.
	Now I'm 51.
	That's out of the discussion.
	I mean, never know.
	Yeah, no, we're done.
	How old are the kids?
	My oldest is 26.
	Then I have a 21, 19, and 15.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And married just one time?
	Yes.
	All right.
	Who initiated the divorce?
	It was mutual.
	Mutual?
	Mutual?
	I mean, it was, it was, it was def he said, go ahead and file a similar story as my neighbor here, but it was definitely mutual.
	And also very amicable.
	Eventually, we live three miles away from each other.
	We co-parent pretty well.
	And did you receive child support?
	No.
	From either of the two fathers?
	50-50.
	50-50.
	So no child support from either of the two fathers?
	Oh, no.
	No.
	It's a 50-50.
	But with the first child, yeah, I did receive child support.
	But she's now almost 30.
	So that's been done a long time ago.
	And the first child, that was the one child that you had with just one.
	Yeah.
	And then you had three kids from IC.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am married.
	I have my longest relationship would be, I think, 11 years.
	Is that your current?
	That's my husband.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Kids?
	Yes.
	I have four biological pregnant with my fifth, and I have two stepdaughters.
	So that will be seven altogether.
	Wow.
	Easy girl.
	Good for you.
	Wait, are you currently, who's currently pregnant here?
	Me.
	Me.
	Oh, you, okay.
	All right.
	How far along are you?
	I am six and a half months pregnant.
	All right, congrats.
	And my fifth boy.
	So you have four girls?
	Yeah, my fifth boy.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Fifth boy?
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	And the stepkids, are they boys as well?
	They're girls.
	Okay.
	And all your children, they are your husbands.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Jake, what about you?
	Yep, still single since 2021.
	Longest was a year and a half.
	And yeah, dating to marry, so I don't really date too much at the moment.
	All right, rock and roll.
	So, no idea what's going on with the stream labs messages.
	Kill up cereal.
	I'm still trying to fix it.
	Not sure what's going on here.
	So, I think why don't we do this?
	Does anybody hear, there's a lot of pre-show notes, by the way.
	I'm going to try my best to get through all of them, but there's a lot.
	And I know some of you included some disagreements in your pre-show notes, but perhaps some of you who didn't include any in your pre-show notes or want to raise them now.
	Any disagreements that anybody has, either with maybe you've seen something Jake said or something I've said that you'd like to touch on, we can start there.
	I like to address the disagreements as they happen personally.
	I can't really think about things.
	Okay, anybody else?
	Yeah.
	What you got?
	I just met you, so I'm, yeah, big.
	I would say the majority of the shows that I've seen, it's been with you and Andrew Brian.
	And I have to say that, yeah, there's a lot wrong with what's going on with women, but you guys tilt really hard towards it being like the women being the primary catalyst for the issues that are going on in the dating world when it's really both.
	Like, there's really a lot of things that are going wrong with both genders.
	And just blaming, pointing fingers, it's just boring, you know?
	Like, let's just figure it out.
	You want to take this?
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, well, I don't think I actually say that.
	Like, I don't actually say it's mostly women's fault when it comes to the whole just the fuckery of the dating landscape.
	Although it probably is.
	So I'm prepared to actually have the conversation.
	What makes you think that they say that it's mostly women?
	What gives you that impression?
	Well, because the majority of the panelists, sorry, the majority of the panelists are women.
	And admittedly, some are very unfortunate in their thought processes.
	But I don't see men at this table who are also dumb and make dumb choices.
	It seems to be like primarily the women.
	What do you think is some of the dumb choices that men make?
	What are some of those things you're talking about?
	There's so many.
	Well, I would say for one, doom scrolling Instagram for what they think a, you know, the woman that they want, listening to old people tell them that relationships and marriage aren't worth it.
	Spending too much time on devices, no social skills, not being able to communicate, read body language, actually interact, and I think certain antiquated ideas about how this whole thing works with couples.
	Like I think that there's a lot of, I don't know, on both sides.
	There's just some really outrageous expectations that I think we need to bring down to the first time.
	You've got doom scrolling, you've got unable to communicate, read body language, these sorts of things.
	When do the people on this show espouse those sorts of behaviors that they're correct?
	No, I'm not, that's not what you asked me.
	You asked me what are some of the problems the men are having.
	Yeah, yeah, but I'm making a bigger point.
	You said that they're primarily blaming women, which would mean that they're enabling the bad behavior of men.
	At which point have they enabled bad behavior of men or encouraged it?
	It's more of like an example, like exemplary, so it's implied.
	So there's things that are actually said and then there's things that are implied.
	So when the men come on, it seems to be that they're going after the women.
	I haven't really seen them go after men with the same energy, except for there was like two guys who were in the porn industry and they kind of ripped out.
	That would be a good example.
	Yeah, so but for the most part, it's mainly the women and directing what men think is wrong with women.
	Maybe it's because with the women they invite a broader cross-section of the population of women so they get all different perspectives, whereas the men tend to, generally speaking, think a reasonably similar way.
	If you get like a guy like myself, Andrew Wilson, Charlie Kirk, guys like this, we all have a reasonable, with a lot of disagreements, we have a reasonably similar worldview.
	Whereas with the girls, there's a lot more to pick up because you guys are all so different.
	There's like 10 of you.
	So you think there's just more subject matter there?
	I don't know.
	I never thought about that.
	Yeah, because, I mean, there are a lot of issues with guys and girls.
	I think with guys, one of the biggest issues is porn, overconsumption of internet porn, and like you said, doom scrolling, lack of motivation, ambition.
	But, you know, there's a lot of societal factors that encourage this.
	There's also a lot with women, but I think it's just brought to the forefront more because there's so many of you.
	So are you saying that more men are suffering from these things, so it's like pretty much the same?
	But wouldn't it be kind of interesting and good if more men would come to podcasts like this and express what their frustration is?
	Generally, generally speaking, men in their own social circles hash these things out with each other.
	There's not really much of a need for it because the world tells us these sorts of things.
	If Brian was doing something absurd, I'd just tell him, hey, Brian, you're doing something crazy.
	But generally with women, I think you guys tend to be much less accountable to each other and to yourselves.
	Like we see women who will say, I'm a 10, I'm a 10, I'm a 10.
	I'm the best thing since sliced bread.
	But with guys, we just don't act like that because we really can't afford to or else the world would just punch us in the face.
	So men are conditioned to not have confidence?
	That's not confidence, that's delusion.
	If it's false, what you're saying, then it's delusion.
	Okay.
	It's a bit different because like guys, like my closest friends are my two brothers.
	And the level of competitiveness that we have with each other is you guys would probably cry if you heard some of the conversations that we had with each other because it's just so honest and accountable.
	So I can't really get away with it.
	I'm not older brothers.
	Yeah.
	Even though I am a woman, I do understand.
	Yeah, yeah, 100%.
	But there's certain, and also just in something that Jordan Peterson says, a lot if you guys ever listen to him, that men tend to operate within a structure where there's physical consequences if it gets to a certain point.
	So if I say something to a guy, it can escalate to a point where there's going to be physical consequences.
	So generally, we tend to regulate our relationships, which regulates ourselves and our level of delusion and how rude we can be, etc.
	But women unfortunately don't really have the same thing.
	So it's interesting when I think when the opinions are expressed.
	I have a question, like going back on it, maybe I feel like there's a bunch of ways you can interpret like rate yourself one out of ten.
	I feel like there's many ways you can interpret it.
	And you know, there's a way, what do you think like walking down the street, like what would you view me as versus like, what do I see myself as?
	Because I would rate myself like higher because I have confidence within myself to dress how I want.
	I'm growing with my career.
	Like I do those things.
	So I view myself as like I'm expressing how I'd like to.
	But maybe you can interpret the question of like, because I don't think that's delusion, you know, like expressing yourself how you want and all of those things and viewing that as like a 10.
	But let's see.
	I think that the kind of the definition of delusion is if you view yourself in a way that's not compatible with how the rest of the world sees you.
	Well, the world is a little bit different.
	Because we have to regulate in society what is real and what isn't.
	And then when somebody sees themselves as a 10 and in societally, objectively speaking, they're maybe a six or a seven or somewhere probably in the middle of the bell curve, then that would be delusion.
	Now, there's nothing wrong with having self-confidence and self-respect.
	That's a fantastic thing, and having intrinsic dignity.
	But I think that if you are actually a confident person, then you're confident enough to say that I'm a six or a seven, or I'm not the best thing ever.
	Because a 10.
	A 10 is a remarkable feat.
	If you ever see a 10, you look three times.
	Correct.
	I could see that.
	I mean, obviously everyone has different types and all of these things that could contribute to like, you know, I might be like that person's a 10 and you might be like that person I wouldn't even say hi to, you know, and obviously those things.
	There's definitely subjective interpretations and you know you might like Eastern European girls and another guy might like Latin girls and we might see them very different.
	But generally speaking, when we're looking at rating ourselves, it's on a global sort of scale.
	Like we can get a reasonably accurate estimate of where we think we are.
	I could see that.
	But also this is just another thing as to why it's more interesting when girls flesh out their proper worldviews is because you guys get a lot more male attention.
	Like if you're a pretty girl and you have an Instagram and you post some nice photos, you're going to get a lot of attention from guys.
	Of course.
	But us, I mean, I've got a big YouTube channel that's like nearly 700,000 subscribers.
	I only ever get men.
	It mocks me.
	You know, guys who say, I like what you do.
	So we don't have this constant flattery where we're, oh my God.
	I don't disagree with you on any of that.
	I mean, the men viewing your stuff, you know, like you probably, I haven't seen you, I'm sorry, but you probably go on as like a male role model to these men, you know, like women, in my opinion, like role models.
	Like I want to look at women as my role models.
	Like I can respect a man in his opinion.
	And like I do all the time.
	I'm like, I watch male YouTubers.
	I love Ben Shapiro, I love Brett Cooper.
	And I look up to both, but that's probably why.
	But that can be an issue with men, you know, that they're giving women and like she said, doom scrolling and all of those.
	This is another big thing.
	I mentioned porn before and the things that you mentioned are all great points as well.
	But also I'd say simping is another big thing.
	It's like something that's heavily, heavily discouraged on this show is going to OnlyFans pages, paying for that sort of thing and giving unrequited attention to women.
	But yeah, go on.
	Yeah.
	So I wanted to say that you might personally not have a lot of women coming to your Instagram page because of your platform and what it is that you're shooting for.
	But look at all these muscle guys who are like advertising how they can do 100 pull-ups and 60,000 squats.
	You tell the girls, hey, baby, hey.
	Like they get so much attention.
	Interpreted the mind.
	They get so much attention.
	I mean, it's to say that men don't ever get that kind of attention on a linear scale like this and we showed all of the most attractive women, we'll say the top 5% of women, compared to the 5% most attractive men, do you think that there'd be an imbalance in who gets more attention?
	You know what?
	These days I would have to say no.
	I'd say maybe 1 or 2% skewed more to the women, but I'd say it'd be pretty even.
	I'd say that the top 5% of women would just get a constant influx of absolute just simping diarrhea going their way.
	The men get that too.
	Every day.
	Throwing panties left and right.
	Well, you're totally.
	Maybe if you're like a rock star in the 1970s.
	You don't even have to be the top 5%.
	I know this.
	And you get a lot of attention all the time.
	I would say that the amount of attention that a pretty girl gets on Instagram would be, you could liken that maybe to Elvis Presley in his prime, with the kind of attention that he would get, because it was global.
	You had lots of different women from all around the world every time.
	I don't think everyone ever sees, but lots of different women all around the world.
	But with girls, some of these girls have hundreds of thousands, millions of followers, and it's just global.
	They've got this fan base.
	Like, the Buddha never had this sort of a cult following or any of these historical figures.
	Gandhi never had this much following.
	What about Prison Bay?
	Remember Prison Bay?
	What's Prison Bay?
	That might be a bit beyond my time.
	Prison Bay was literally a guy who was in prison, but very took a mugshot, very good looking.
	He exploded.
	Now he is the international model, and he's dating an heiress.
	So who is he dating?
	Some heiress.
	The last I checked, I mean, he left his family.
	Apparently, he was married at the time.
	So he left his wife and kids because the internet and the whole world told him that he was fine.
	And so he decided to live his dream.
	Can I just say, just quick little show of hands, does anybody here agree that the top 5% of men would get the same amount of attention as the top 5% of women?
	No, not at all.
	No.
	You think that they would?
	Yes.
	The top 5% of good-looking men on the internet?
	For sure.
	Do you think they'd get the same amount of inboxes and they'd get the same amount of just unrequited attention from random girls?
	I think that that's pretty delusional, if I'm honest.
	I think that they get the same amount of attention.
	Like if I'm telling a friend, oh my god, Justin Bieber, you know what I mean?
	But I'm not sliding into Justin Bieber's DMs.
	You know what I mean?
	So I think it's pretty quantifiable, though, because if you just look at OnlyFans, who are the top 5% of creators?
	Who are the top 50%?
	You struggle to find a guy and maybe a few male people.
	I think it's also socially predictable that men always look and scroll and comment.
	Where when you go onto even a better-looking guy's page and you scroll through comments, it's almost like cringy when women are a different social acceptance.
	Because men are hunters, so like they're always the ones going after women.
	Whereas when a woman does it, it's very distasteful.
	I say that's probably the best point that could be made in regard to this is that women do it behind closed doors.
	They talk with their girlfriends, oh, this guy, so or directly like to the man, but not publicly.
	Like if you're talking to somebody, then you'll like tell them they're handsome or whatever, but you're not going to do it publicly.
	I actually think the percentage would be not even close.
	Yeah, I would say so too.
	Honestly.
	I approach people publicly all the time, like on Instagram.
	But you're one out of how many women.
	That's why it's not an even score, she's saying.
	Wait, so I do want to come back to what you're saying.
	I'm no idea what's going on with the TTS not working.
	So I apologize, guys.
	We'll try to get it figured out.
	So your argument was what, essentially?
	You're saying that men and women, when it comes to their difficulty interacting with the opposite sex, is about equivalent, or what was your argument?
	No, no.
	He was talking about in terms of attention and attraction on Instagram.
	He was asking me if he thought that the attention that the women got was equal to the men.
	And I'd say that with the women, maybe there's a few percentage more, but pretty much it's half an hour.
	I think he said that in response to an original view.
	I think he said that in response to an original point you made.
	What was your original point?
	I'd like to address it.
	Oh.
	The original critique was that she thinks that we, like, the podcast tends to skew more towards blaming women for the dating problems.
	No, no, no.
	So you were making another argument, essentially kind of saying dating is about easy.
	It's like easier for men, or what was it?
	No, I didn't say that.
	Can I add something to it?
	No, no, no, no.
	I want to get back to her conversation.
	I think what her argument was was saying how there men have issues too.
	Like at the beginning, she was giving examples of what men do wrong in relationships.
	And she's also expressing that you guys are not.
	I think, please just allow me to get this through.
	So I think you were saying something along the lines of the men get about equivalent romantic and sexual attention that women get.
	Are you sure?
	Yes.
	It was before that.
	I used Instagram.
	I'm pretty sure Jake was using that in response to something you said.
	So just what's your actual position?
	Yeah, men and women receive about equivalent sexual and romantic attention.
	No, absolutely not.
	Am I being gaslit here, chat?
	No.
	Can somebody in the chat please tell me what she said?
	Earlier, she was saying that they're essentially not that men aren't being held accountable, but because it's mostly women here, y'all address the issues with women, but we don't hear so much the other side of it.
	And I wanted to interject and say a lot of people say the 70% of divorces are initiated by women.
	But when you take out certain statistics, and I think this is probably where you were going along with this, if you take out abuse, if you take out infidelity, the 70% isn't exactly 70-30.
	It changes.
	Depends what you mean by abuse, though.
	Because if you look at what the Psychological Association says about abuse, it's like it can be things like gaslighting.
	So Brian could divorce me if we were gaslighting him about the chat or anything like that.
	There's a bunch of different things.
	Emotional abuse is a big umbrella term.
	But even if you took that 23% and you just cut that in half, because it was like 23% was because of abuse, cut that in half, because like, or even a third, because, like you said, you can say abuse is whatever.
	It still changes the statistics a little bit.
	So I think it's a little exaggerated.
	And I think it kind of honestly panders to men who don't want to take accountability.
	I think accountability is an issue like across the board, more so with women, but there's also a lot of men who also lack accountability.
	Well, I mean, the statistics would still be far in favor of women breaking up and breaking up the families and breaking up divorces.
	But I mean, it also blows out to like 90% when you look at college-educated women.
	Yeah, the higher education level, yes.
	Much higher.
	So I think that statistic in itself says a lot about the dynamics in a marriage and what works and indoctrination in the university system.
	And also in terms of hypergamy, because college-educated women who earn a lot of money and have very successful careers are much like more likely to look elsewhere if they feel the man isn't above them.
	If they feel the man is below or equal, much more likely to look elsewhere.
	I think men tend to need a, I don't think this is controversial, men need a father figure.
	And I think that men tend to look up to people and men that look up to you.
	Like I like some of the views.
	Like I could kind of get an understanding when you relate it to like maybe Charlie Kirk or something.
	But and then men tend to copy like people that they like.
	So men online might see that person.
	Like there's a percentage of men that look up to you, kind of follow your sort of guidelines when it comes to dating.
	And then there's the men that see other guys like treating women horribly and all of those things.
	So that could play a factor also in like how men like that's an issue.
	Like the men that you're talking about like guys who have certain role models online and role models not might not be conducive to what's productive in life.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, but I think that particularly with this podcast, it gets a bad rap in that regard, that it somehow doesn't sort of cater to that message.
	But if you look at a guy like Andrew who's on all the time, he's got five kids and he's happily married and he's contributing to sort of the apparatus that is of the healthy society.
	You've got guys like Charlie Kirk, he's married with kids and they're having these conversations.
	So back to your critique about the podcast, I would ask what exactly are the messages that you think that are being told on this podcast?
	Or how do you think men are being fed a message that lacks accountability, if you will?
	Well, I would say that men do tend to go harder.
	They'll be blunt.
	There's definitely a shorter amount of time to tell it straight than beat around the bush, right?
	However, there's also this element of, well, feminism, women are all 304s and they don't want to get married anymore.
	They don't want to have children and all of these things.
	Do you think that's true or do you think that's false?
	I would say that there is some truth to those things, but it's not all of them.
	Do you think, I don't think we'd ever really talk in a monolith when we speak about these things.
	We would never say all women, this or that.
	But the statistics bear out these facts that people are getting married less.
	Women are much less incentivized these days to get married and to pair bond.
	That's why I think this podcast is particularly interesting, but it gets written off a lot because what we're talking about here is dating and people might think, oh, dating.
	We do have some good news, though.
	But just one second.
	When we're talking about dating, that's pair bonding.
	This is like the seeds of what then creates a flower, which is a family, and then hopefully a thriving jungle, which is a society of happy families and the nuclear family and this and that.
	So this is why this is losing to $18.
	Nearly.
	No, this is why this podcast, I find it very fascinating and interesting, is because we're kind of like reaching around in the dark and wading through the dark and trying to figure out the dating market, which is where we pair bond and what eventually creates a healthy society.
	So that's why it can be very chaotic at times.
	Well, the good news is that divorce is actually down 18%.
	Since?
	They did a study, the census did one, it was way back in 2016.
	It came up on my feed.
	It said Red Pill was wrong about divorce.
	And so it was a whole controversy.
	No, but then I double-checked because they did attach a link to the census.
	And so I was able to look at the report myself.
	And divorces are down.
	And get this, it's because millennials saw their Gen X boomer parents getting divorced all over the place.
	And they said they didn't want to do that.
	Yes, there are lessons.
	I'd be very interested to see the numbers of this because I think that what you're probably talking about, I would hesitate to guess, but I'm going to guess anyway, is that you're talking about new marriages on a shorter time scale and it's not over.
	Yes, we're talking about new marriage.
	And they're saying that these millennial marriages are lasting beyond five years.
	Millennials are only like 31.
	No, millennials start at 19.8, isn't it?
	Yeah, millennials start at 190.
	Divorces could be down though because less people are getting married.
	Is it like based on a percentage of you take 10 people?
	Like that's a big factor too.
	Less people getting married, obviously less people getting divorced.
	And who's to say they're not going to get divorced in the next few years?
	Yeah, I'm just going to say, aren't we comparing it to studies with much more longevity than what we're talking about now?
	We're talking about just five years in comparison to studies of 30 plus years.
	Exactly.
	Consensus from 2016 is almost a decade.
	So I don't really know how relevant that is now because I'm pretty sure that during COVID, we had the highest spike of divorces, and that was only three years ago.
	So I don't really know how accurate that is.
	Actually, marriages went up during COVID.
	Yo.
	Can you ask the chat if they are hearing this?
	I don't think I can see the chat.
	Can I?
	No, but can you just ask them?
	Hey, chat, can you guys hear the TTS?
	Can you guys?
	Because they might hear it, but maybe we're not.
	Brian wants to know if the chat can hear the TTS.
	He's reading it now.
	Should we get back into it, Brian?
	They're saying no.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Okay, cool.
	Where were we?
	You were saying that marriages were down in COVID?
	Is that what I heard?
	No, I think that if I'm correct, they were up.
	Yes, there wasn't much else to do, right?
	So a lot of people go in and get a divorce either.
	Yeah, there was a lot of things that were held up.
	But here's what I think it is, honestly.
	I think that there are less people getting married.
	But the people who are getting married are being very strategic and intentional about it.
	They're not going in willy-nilly.
	And so they mean it more.
	And they're also older.
	So the average marriage now for women is 30.
	And so they're older.
	They've put in some time for what they feel they need or whatever they were missing so they can make these relationships work.
	And honestly, those are going to be like at some point we're going to have two different classes.
	There's a lot of data that indicates that the later people get married, actually the worse off they are.
	That's not what the new data is.
	Because if you have a, and there's plenty of studies that show that women who get into their 30s and they've had a bunch of sexual experience and partners and then they eventually get married, they're much more likely to get divorced.
	So I think that that's actually not a good thing.
	But you added a variable.
	You just assumed that the women, because they get to 30, that they're going to be...
	Once again, we have to speak in generalities of women.
	A woman who's 30 is more likely to have more experience than a woman who's 21.
	Can I interrupt you real quick?
	I think also less people are going through the court system too.
	Like that can include divorce because people are very much not like that's the statistics probably go off of the court system and who's going to court to file for a divorce.
	But there's probably a bigger percentage of people that aren't trusting like the government or like don't want to pay because that's expensive.
	Like you've got people that can't afford to go to get divorced.
	So it's just a mutual understanding.
	So those are all unknowns though, right?
	Like those aren't things we can know.
	So the only thing we can know is it can all play some of the things that we're doing.
	Well, they do have some reports of like three divorces and that's those most embarrassing dates are looking for where they just don't actually get divorced but they live separate lives.
	So yes there is incidence of that.
	You mentioned that people are not getting into marriages as quickly, but there was a study.
	It was only I think a few thousand, like 2,000 men that they did.
	And they said most of them, and they were in long-term marriages, most of them knew within, I think, six to eight months whether they wanted to get married.
	Like men know pretty quickly if they want to get married.
	They know if they see the traits that they want in a woman.
	And I don't have like a big following on Facebook.
	It's a small following, but it's mostly married couples.
	And a majority of them, whenever I made a reel about that specific topic, a lot of people got mad at me for it.
	But a lot of the married couples that have been married 20, 30, 40 years were commenting and they're like, yeah, we got married after a month.
	We got married after three months.
	So I think that's a healthy thing.
	I mean, generally speaking, I can only really speak for myself, but I know straight away at least like 80-90% of what I need to know about a woman from dating her for like a week.
	And then after that, it's sort of just weeding out the little things and hoping she doesn't turn into a total psychopath.
	But yeah.
	A lot of people don't date for marriage, you know, when you do date for marriage, which I think is an amazing thing.
	Like, I wouldn't want to get in a relationship.
	I dated for marriage both times.
	Well, what I was saying is that when you date for marriage, it's a different conversation.
	You know, usually, like, in today's world, people are hooking up the first time.
	They don't really know.
	They like wait and hear one thing.
	Or it's considered like I've been on dates where someone's like, sorry to trauma dump.
	But if you're dating for marriage, that's not trauma dumping.
	It's getting to know somebody.
	A man said to you, sorry to trauma dump.
	I've heard that multiple times.
	I bet that turned you on.
	Sorry to trauma dump and then starts crying.
	Like, that's also the difference.
	Like, you know, dating for marriage, day one, you're like, this is me, this is where I grew up.
	This is my family situation.
	I do this for work.
	But some people are like, am I talking too much?
	Am I doing this?
	Is this wrong?
	Because it's not like a norm.
	Especially, I think I'm younger than most of the panel.
	So I have a different perspective of people my age that are in the dating.
	How did they approach it?
	Were they like, these are all my problems, start crying?
	Or were they like, hey, this is my baggage, just so you know?
	No, it was like, this happened to me.
	I feel like it's different when they say this is my baggage.
	I'm working on it.
	I think that this is just a big problem these days with the conditioning we have around mental illness and the conditioning we have around a lot of the just basically what's seen as normal, what's seen as regular.
	And guys are feeding into this as well.
	And guys should be taught responsibility and they should be taught how to be stoic and how to deal with their own problems.
	But unfortunately, now, a lot of the time, these guys are being taught that the more messed up you are, the better.
	The more autism and this and that, and I have blue hair and I'm like neurodiverse or whatever they call themselves these days.
	A lot of women are.
	The norm.
	Oh, women are worse.
	It's rough.
	It's 100% worse with women.
	Unfortunately, it's also seeped into the male population.
	So, yeah, unfortunately, you guys have to.
	The percentage on that is not equal.
	Because women are usually.
	I worked in treatment, like rehabs and treatments, and a lot of the percentage of people have actual autism where they don't understand completely what it means to be a man or a woman.
	So they're like, ah, you know, they get lost.
	Or it's women that, like, when you go by they, them, I'm not saying this for everyone, not saying I, whatever.
	A lot of that is women that don't want to associate with being a female because of trauma.
	They're like, no one's going to target me.
	What's the problem?
	The problem with the whole transgender movement is like a lot of these kids end up being gay when they're older, like the young guys.
	A lot of women, you guys will know that when you're a teenage girl, you have a lot of body image issues and a lot of hormones happening, growing breasts, and all these sorts of things.
	That goes back with the role model thing, too.
	People are like looking up to people on YouTube that have blue hair and crying about things, or the laziness, like bed loathing, I think is a thing right now.
	Like taking bed rotting.
	Bed rotting.
	Like I'm going to lay in bed all day for mental health and just like be depressed.
	And that's reframing things to sound good.
	And then you see that online, you're like, I kind of want to just lay in bed all day and let someone else do everything for me.
	Interesting.
	I definitely agree.
	I think there's a really big problem online with people romanticizing mental illness and like eating disorders, especially as well.
	Like people like to promote that kind of content.
	Like it's like it's cute to I feel like with young women it used to be anorexia but now it's transgenderism.
	Have you guys seen a shift?
	Definitely.
	And like the body positivity, it's like okay to like eat as much as you want all day because the body positivity when things are it's it's never promoting health online.
	It's like young people are being targeted and being shot with transition, be transgender, be gay, have an eating disorder, whether that's anorexic or not.
	Like, it's just being flushed at you.
	In other countries, that's not happening.
	You're going to make America healthier.
	What's your podcast?
	Recommend that.
	It's about debates.
	I analyze debates, like long-form debates, break them down into a more sort of palatable format, and then give my own two cents worth and talk about facts and stats and figures and all those sorts of things.
	What did you think of the recent debate between Kamala and Trump?
	I thought that Trump missed a few opportunities, but I thought he dominated the entire debate.
	He also stayed.
	But the thing is that the bar is so high for him, and the bar is so low for Kamala Harris that she can get away with not actually saying anything the whole entire debate.
	She didn't say anything that was really a substantive sort of policy position.
	It was all a little bit of a bus is a big thing.
	Trump, when he was like, quote, failing, you had people fact-checking him.
	Kamala wasn't fact-checked one single time.
	Does anybody here at the table think that Kamala won the debate?
	I don't think she won, but I do think that she got under his skin enough where he was very defensive.
	He took debate on the rallies.
	I also do believe that she grabbed all the I'm only a debate watcher voters because a lot of people don't do their research as much as you know, maybe you or I or whoever does.
	A lot of people don't.
	They wait for the debate, they say who spoke better, but in all reality, everything she was saying, to me, it was like she was reading a book.
	It wasn't where have you been the last 3.5 years.
	How about you, Political Science?
	What did you think about the debate?
	I didn't watch the debate, but I like Kamala.
	I feel like an odd one out.
	Yeah, no, that's all right.
	What do you like about her?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I think she's well-spoken and I think she's personable.
	And to me, I think I also have a familiarity bias.
	She kind of reminds me of Obama's charm.
	Is there something that turned you on to her since she's been in office that was remarkable?
	Something that you think is one of your main reasons beyond what you had just shared?
	I'm not pro-abortion for myself, but I like that she would give people the opportunity.
	I just think.
	Why are you not pro-abortion for yourself?
	Because I wouldn't get one, but I think people should have the right to choose.
	Why not?
	I just think it would be very traumatic and not the right decision for myself.
	Why would it be traumatic?
	On other people.
	I don't want metal parts all up in my genital areas.
	So for you, the abortion is more about the metal parts and how it would hurt you rather than the baby that's in the body.
	I think that too.
	Like I wouldn't want a baby killed either.
	Yeah.
	Why would you, if do you, obviously you agree that it is a baby, it's a child in the womb.
	Just, I'm curious, if you wouldn't do it and if you see the moral danger in abortion, then why would you think that it's okay for other people to do it?
	I think that there are certain circumstances that it might be necessary and like if it's life-threatening for a woman to give birth.
	What about if it's a financial issue?
	That too.
	I mean, if you don't want to give birth to a kid and you're going to put it in poverty, but also like maybe just give it up for adoption instead of killing it would be a better alternative.
	Life-threatening doesn't actually fall really under the category of abortion.
	100%.
	I feel like anybody you ask who is for Kamala, the first thing that is always brought up is the abortion stance, and that is the only thing I've heard from Kamala.
	And she's a woman.
	Yeah.
	And she's not either.
	And she's not Donald Trump.
	That's the other one.
	I'm curious, though, to get back to that.
	That's what people talk about.
	To the criticism of the people who are talking about other things.
	Just to tie a knot on this one, I feel like the pink pill, you've got a bit of a YouTube channel going on.
	You've got maybe, it seems like it's adjacent to the red pill, or is it completely opposite to the red pill?
	Well, it's adjacent to the red pill only because it became that way.
	When I first came to the internet, I was one of the few black women that encouraged black women to entertain all of their dating options.
	I came out with a book called Swirling.
	What did you think about Kevin Samuels?
	I thought that Kevin Samuels was not great, not overall, not great.
	I think that he deluded a lot of men into thinking that they were high value.
	I don't think that high value was actually described specifically.
	It was described as a financial marker.
	And also, like, Kevin Samuelson.
	Yes, he did.
	He said, a high-value man is somebody who makes over $100,000 or more.
	He has a network, and it has to be like for a few years.
	He has to have a good network, and he's sort of got to be settled.
	Like those were the main things.
	He didn't really talk about character.
	And there would be a lot of times where he would say, he actually invited me on the show.
	I've actually known I knew him personally just through the just through circling the drain with other folks in the space that I'm in, unfortunately.
	I'm interested because I used to love watching Kevin Samuels' videos, the way that he would get these black women on the show and they would be, and he would have these arguments with them because it's such a different sort of world, the sort of African-American culture.
	Because we don't have that in Australia at all.
	What particularly about it did you feel like he was deluding men about?
	Because, you know, there is an element of having resources that does make a guy high value.
	I don't really particularly like that term, but I think that if a man develops resources, it is a very positive thing for his perspectives in the dating market.
	Yeah, but you're going to have to give me more on that list than just that he makes six figures.
	Well, Kevin Samuels was also an image consultant.
	So he talked about dressing really well and carrying yourself well, having a network of other men and having purpose and drive.
	So six figures, he can wear a nice suit and he has some friends.
	That's supposed to be something that I'm supposed to use.
	But what would you, if you, if you had to say, if you were in his shoes then, then what would you encourage?
	I would focus more, first of all, what I think, so if I'm going to be fair, there were a lot of women on the show that came on delusional.
	But I'm not going to pretend that Kevin Samuels did not feed into the delusion.
	That's diverting from the question.
	The question was, what would you say to men if you had to give them the advice?
	Oh, about what a high-value man is.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The first thing I would say is that it starts with your character.
	The nature of a true man.
	Kevin Gray made it 28.
	Go on, keep going.
	The measure of a true man is not that he is never afraid.
	It is that he is afraid, or he may, or it may be hard, whatever the task, and he'll do it anyway.
	That is what a man is.
	Stoic.
	That's someone who has character, someone who has a strong cornerstone of beliefs and values.
	They are thoughtful.
	They are respectful of others.
	Cultivate their leadership skills, but they also know how to follow other people and take instruction from other people.
	They know how to choose friends.
	They know how to choose women.
	They inspire other men.
	We'll take it a little bit slower.
	So a guy who's got character and he's able to.
	What did you say, first of all?
	You said he's able to get things done, even if he doesn't always have to feel like he's not scared.
	Yes, the measure of a man is not that he doesn't get scared, it's that he feels the fear and does it anyway.
	Okay, cool.
	What were some of the other ones?
	The other ones was that he knows how to choose good friends.
	He knows how to choose women.
	He's respectful of others.
	He's mindful of where he wants to go and direction wants to go.
	Now, this is the way is this the hierarchy?
	Because at what point does actually having a career for a guy?
	I was just about to get to that.
	Where does it come in?
	Is it after those or before those?
	No, I think that they should be in conjunction with each other.
	That's what makes them high value.
	That's what makes them rare because it's both.
	That's what makes the rarity.
	I would say that if you are building yourself and developing your resources and a career and these sorts of things, those are the characteristics that tend to come along with that for a guy.
	So if you have to build something from scratch, then you have to be able to work with people.
	You can't be like a piece of shit to be around unless you sort of are some Bitcoin millionaire or unless you're some scam artist or something like that, which is a hollow way to live.
	That's not necessarily true.
	I would say that, especially with the rise in STEM, there's lots of people who are working from home, who are working in those fields, but they're not getting a lot of interaction.
	So we can look at the numbers and see that people are not interacting with each other like they used to.
	They're not giving up on killer of cereal donated $200.
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	Sorry about that for those of you who were sending in some messages.
	We'll just do that now, real quick.
	No idea what happened there with OBS, but should be fixed now.
	We'll have to get into that later, kill of cereal thing for the TTS.
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	We'll go around later.
	We have Techno Trooper.
	Ladies, be real for a sec.
	Do any of you still feel some type of way about an ex?
	Does their memory still hit you in the feels sometimes, even though you're with someone new now?
	Spill the tea.
	Going around the table on this, go ahead.
	I'm not with anybody new, but my most recent ex, I still like to talk to him.
	You said you've been single for one year.
	Yeah.
	So that's your most recent ex.
	Yeah.
	So you broke up a year ago, but you're still talking to him?
	Sometimes, yeah.
	You said you dated him for one year?
	Yeah.
	That was, no, my longest relationship was a year, but I dated him for like eight months.
	Okay.
	How often do you talk to your ex or whatever?
	Um, like once a day.
	Just like a little housier.
	When's the last time you guys hung out in person?
	Like when we broke up, we don't like hookup or anything like that.
	So you haven't hung out with him in person?
	No.
	Was your relationship long distance?
	Um, no, it wasn't at first, but he moved to Oregon, so that's why we broke up.
	Okay.
	Uh, let's get the split going on this.
	Um, so you broke up, but you guys talk on the phone every single day.
	No, we don't talk like on the phone, like not a phone call, but we just like text each other.
	I'll ask him how his day went or like what he did or if his day went good and stuff like that.
	So you guys are still friends?
	Yeah.
	Let's say you meet a guy and he's interested in pursuing a long-term relationship.
	You disclose to him that you talk to your ex nearly every single day in some capacity or another.
	He finds this unacceptable.
	He tells you to stop.
	Do you stop or do you continue?
	I don't think I would continue being friends with my ex if I was like genuinely considering prospects with somebody because I would find that disrespectful and I wouldn't want that done to me.
	I'm just curious though, why do you continue speaking with your ex to begin with?
	He knows me well.
	It's comfortable, I guess.
	I don't have to like tell somebody new about all the details in my life.
	Okay.
	Can I say something?
	Go ahead.
	Do you think that that might prohibit you currently with dating prospects?
	I'm happy by myself right now, so I don't really want to date.
	This is a good question that she asks.
	How much time do you spend speaking to him in whatever capacity?
	Like five minutes, ten minutes.
	Five minutes a day.
	Okay.
	Do you still feel like you have a romantic connection with this person?
	Maybe.
	Did you love him?
	Yeah.
	When's the last time you said you love him?
	Probably like...
	More recently than...
	Yeah, probably like two weeks ago or something.
	So you guys, you're single, you guys are broken up, but you tell him you love him.
	That's interesting how that works.
	Did you say you love him as in like, I love you as a friend or I'm in love with you?
	he was just like super drunk in an uber so i was like i love you be safe all right We'll go around the table on this.
	So do any of you still feel some type of way about an ex?
	Not an ex, but I guess a man that I've gone on a lot of dates with, but we never officially dated.
	I do think about my ex, but he's gay.
	So, like, he actually is.
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	No.
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	Thank you, Kill of Cereal.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Could see in the chat, Kill of Cereal.
	Your ex is gay.
	Did you know though?
	Like, did he tell you?
	No, I didn't know.
	So how did it come up in conversation?
	Like, how?
	It wasn't.
	I actually walked in.
	I figured it out after we broke up, but a lot of people were telling me.
	Can you tell us how you figured it out?
	I was in Austin and I never go to bars and I just happened to be out at a bar with some friends that night and he lives in that city and I saw the guy that I thought that he could be dating or hanging out with because I saw them in a lot of Instagram photos with each other and the other guy was openly gay.
	So my ex doesn't really do social media or anything like that, so there'd be no indicator publicly.
	But the gay guy approached me at the bar and made fun of my Wednesday dress and said, oh, I'm hanging out with your ex and kind of hinted towards it.
	He was with another gay, so kind of figured it out.
	So was there any signs during the relationship?
	Did you have a cocky's wrist?
	There was a lot.
	Watch some chick flicks with you or anything.
	Did you peg him?
	I wish.
	No.
	No, there were actually a lot of signs, yes.
	Like?
	Well, he never wanted to have sex.
	And he, we used to smoke weed together, be like really open with each other.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think it was.
	That's good.
	But California weed.
	Yeah, something about smoking.
	Wait, okay, so you smoked weed together.
	What?
	Well, in college, because we were college sweethearts, we would always hang out together.
	And the smoking weed, I feel like, is something that stood out to me that he didn't want to do that with me anymore, but he'd want to do it with his friends because I feel like it opens a part of your mind whenever you're smoking or maybe taking some mushrooms.
	And so you become like more vulnerable.
	Yeah, vulnerable and open.
	And he stopped wanting to do anything like that around me, probably because he was fearful about conversation and we could never really get deep in the middle.
	Did you ever allude to him?
	Did you ever say, hey, listen, are you gay?
	No.
	How long were you guys dating?
	Seven years.
	Did he ever take longer than you to get ready or anything like that?
	He never really wanted to get ready or go out with me, which I think was kind of fitting for the time in my life, building my career as a model and doing all that.
	So he was really more roommate and not so.
	You guys said you never rarely had sex?
	Yeah.
	How often did you guys have sex?
	It's hard to remember, but maybe like once every few months.
	But there were times when it was like more often than others.
	But it doesn't really stand out to me.
	I can't remember.
	If you had to count, how many times did you guys have sex?
	Total in seven years?
	Sure.
	Oh my gosh.
	I have no idea.
	Less than 30?
	Probably.
	It's probably less than 10.
	Less than 30 in seven years.
	I never really counted.
	Huh?
	I never really counted how many times.
	Well, I'm not looking for an exact number, but I mean, if it's below a certain amount over a seven-year period of time, it wasn't really the amount, though.
	It was just like the feelings weren't there.
	There was no chemistry.
	But we were very close, like best friends.
	And I felt like I could.
	I had somebody there in a state where I didn't have any family, somebody who came from my college town.
	Were you having sex with other men during this period of time?
	No.
	Okay.
	So if you had an estimate, how many times did you guys have sex in the seven years?
	Under 30 times.
	Less than 20 times?
	No, definitely.
	So 20 to 30 times.
	Yeah.
	Was it good?
	No.
	And it was always bad from the very start.
	Like, I remember.
	Why did you stay with them for seven years?
	It's like two times a year.
	Yeah.
	Well, I didn't.
	I only had dated virgins before him, so I...
	Stop the cap!
	No, I had a little virgin fetish.
	And to take it or just them?
	I don't know.
	In a sense.
	Oh, God.
	And so I was kind of naive.
	I didn't really know.
	Thank you, Maybe.
	That it wasn't normal.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Here, let's get around the table on this one.
	What about you?
	I need the question repeated at this point.
	Oh.
	Wait, no.
	Do you have a still feel your feel some type of thing?
	I actually also talked to my ex that lives in Oregon as friends, but it was after two years of not dating.
	Okay.
	But I don't feel any certain way about my ex.
	I think I talked about it last time, like the one a year ago.
	Okay.
	No non-calm.
	What about you?
	I don't talk to my ex.
	No.
	I don't talk to my ex, but recently.
	I don't talk to my ex, but recently I kind of came up on our what would have been our one year and I started feeling some type of way.
	So the guys that I was talking to, I was like, I don't think that's really appropriate if I'm still having those feelings.
	I was like, I think I need to take some time for me.
	I don't talk to my ex.
	He made room for a better man.
	Was he gay as well?
	Yeah, but she was thinking.
	He found a better man.
	No, she was young.
	He made room.
	I heard that.
	Definitely.
	Okay.
	I do have a question related to this.
	We actually had a woman on the show, maybe it was a year ago, who said that, well, kind of related to this question.
	Have you ever been hooking up with a guy, could even be your boyfriend, all the while you were thinking about a sexual experience that was superior with another man?
	No, I'm a virgin.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Was this with your boyfriend?
	With like any guy that I've been with, I think, was there somebody better?
	Wait, so every guy you've been with, you've always thought about while having sex with them, a previous sexual experience which was superior?
	It's just there could be better.
	So there's not like a giga chad.
	That might be worse.
	He's just stuck in the back of your mind.
	Maybe not worse.
	Not every time, but.
	Who is he?
	What did he do?
	The giga chad?
	The guy that was supposed to be a bitch.
	The guy who's stuck in the back of your head every time.
	Oh, there's not one.
	Wait, so while you're having sex with men, you're thinking this could be better.
	Yeah.
	Every time you've had sex?
	Maybe not every time.
	Most of the time you have sex.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, she was with a gay guy for seven years.
	Thank you.
	Well, yeah, but she's also saying that she's had this occur with the other men she's had sex with.
	Virgins, yes.
	Of course it could always be better.
	Right.
	Just kidding.
	Yeah, that doesn't really make sense.
	Like, why choose a virgin if you're expecting him to have any experience?
	I don't do that anymore.
	Oh.
	My lesson with that.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Into the mic.
	Yeah, would be helpful.
	That probably would be helpful.
	Wait, I keep blinking real quick.
	Can you think of something?
	Oh, I had my answer right now.
	Thank you.
	I was thinking of the answer.
	Sometimes since I get with guys and girls, sometimes I'll be with a guy and I'll be like, oh my god, I wish he had tits.
	Watch!
	There are people like that now.
	No, not like that.
	Not like that.
	So you just wish that you were with a girl in that moment?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Sometimes if, because I like a guy to be really dominant, but with the women, with women, I don't like them to be as dominant.
	So it's like a difference in some of the things.
	So then are you with men that are feminine?
	If you want to be dominant and you're thinking about boobs?
	I'm saying if they don't.
	You're like, I wish this guy was more dominant with kitties.
	Yeah.
	And even if he's totally not, I'm like, I feel like you're a girl, so where's your boobs?
	Like, okay.
	That's that type of thing.
	So you're so stuck.
	If you're going to be feminine, at least have boobs, you know?
	Stuck between a boob and a hard place.
	Literally.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Did you just explode us?
	I did.
	I can't think of a specific situation where I've been with a guy and I'm thinking about another man.
	I mean, it's probably happened, but like an actual no.
	Okay.
	No.
	Never.
	Into the mic?
	Not currently, but I can't say for certain that I haven't fantasized about Brad Pitt every now and you know again.
	Well, sex with a partner.
	I don't know if it, you know, I can't, definitely not with the current one, but I can't say for certain that it's never happened.
	I still need to watch it.
	Absolutely masculine.
	It's interesting.
	I've never, I don't think I've, I mean, I've had good sex.
	I've had bad.
	I mean, sex for guys, it's like pizza.
	You know what I mean?
	I've heard guys say this before where they can't fuck it up.
	Where they're like having sex with a girl and thinking about another girl.
	I can honestly say I've never.
	I've never done that.
	Yeah, when I heard the guys head out, I'm like, it's weird.
	Like, wouldn't you want to be in the moment?
	Right.
	Because you're doing the work.
	You want to be reverse.
	Wait, I don't know.
	Have you ever margin?
	No.
	What the hell?
	Okay.
	I feel like if guys are doing that, that's like a product of maybe like overconsumption of corn.
	Also, going back to the thinking about your ex thing, I don't know if this is just me, but like once it's over, it's over.
	Amen.
	Like, I'm not talking to like if I break.
	As a friend.
	Didn't you say you're having a daughter?
	It's over.
	Over is over.
	Blocked, deleted.
	Like, I'm not.
	No contact with my exes.
	We were all so young, and I think that that's a little different, but you could disagree with that.
	I just mean like you got to speak into the monkey.
	I just mean like in ex, like, we're just like casually dating each other.
	You guys ever heard of monkey branching?
	You know what monkey branching is?
	I assume it's something I'm doing right now.
	When a monkey swings from a tree, it grabs onto a tree that it's swinging from, and then it grabs onto the other tree.
	And as it's swinging onto the other tree, it's still got a hold of the one tree.
	That's monkey branching.
	I feel like that's what's happening when you're still talking to your ex.
	You're like, finding something better, not 100% sure, but not just willing to let it go.
	I think you can be on good terms, certainly, with an ex and have an amicable relationship, amicable breakup.
	But I'm not going to like continue to talk to her after the breakup.
	Like it's over.
	I think it's also a bit different for me too because of the fact that, like I said, last time I'm sober, I go to AAA meetings, and a lot of my exes are sober as well, so I'll see them around, and it just like friends are mutual still, which makes it a lot difficult more difficult.
	I also purposely don't go to the same like meetings around here as they might, the ones that they might be at, but it's like the mutual friends and like the community of like being sober and being an AA.
	Well, we're talking about something different here.
	So these men that you're seeing in the program or whatever.
	It's like if you went to the same school and you were in some sort of, or you were co-workers or something, you would essentially, you, to some degree, are forced to interact to some degree.
	Sure.
	But most relationships, there's really nothing that continues to bind you together typically.
	So in your case, this man doesn't even live near you, right?
	He's long distance, yet you speak to him almost every day.
	I think I'm just not over it.
	He's the first person that's like ever broken up with me, and I don't.
	That doesn't sit right with me, you know?
	Oh, what do you mean?
	Like, you've broken up with all the other guys?
	Yeah.
	So, this is like an ego thing for you then?
	I don't know if it's necessarily ego.
	I mean, like, you asked last time, or whenever Lindsay was on last time, if people believe in love at first sight, and I like think I felt that for him, so it's also hard to get over because of that.
	Wait, when did you meet him?
	Um, in high school, so in 2022, and you're 20 now, so from what age to what you guys dated from like 18 to 19?
	No, we like one sec.
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	Ladies, would it be okay with your current partner still having pictures of previous lovers on their phone or their computer?
	Both explicit pictures and normal pictures.
	Really quick, we'll do a hand raise on this one.
	Thank you, Technotrooper, for the TTS.
	Raise your hand if it would be okay with your current partner still, if your current partner still had pictures of next on their phone or computer.
	Would it be okay?
	Would it be okay?
	Is it with a child, though?
	Like, if you have a kid with someone with your ex and y'all have kids together and they have pictures of them, you know?
	Well, so you're saying both explicit pictures and normal pictures.
	Oh, no, no, no, I was talking about like, okay, because I have some pictures of my son and his father on my phone, right?
	Yeah.
	And I save that for my son.
	Okay.
	Because I do, like, photos for him.
	Okay.
	I suppose that would be encompassing, yeah?
	I feel like they meant nudes.
	Okay, then.
	Dating with intention, there should not be anything that you have to worry about in regards to your partner.
	I feel like intention, as in dating to marry.
	Technotrooper, thank you for the message, man.
	Appreciate it.
	So, going back to what you were saying here, you were saying that your ex he broke up with you.
	What were you about to say?
	I forgot.
	I lost my train of thought.
	Do you remember?
	No, you didn't.
	You asked her if it was an ego thing, and you said no because it was like a love at first sight thing.
	Yeah, love at first sight.
	You asked if I was dating him since I was 18.
	No.
	We just met my senior year of high school, and then we started dating like my sophomore year of college, so last year?
	Like in June.
	And have you dated any guys since then?
	Even have you been on any dating apps?
	No.
	Have you been on a date?
	No.
	Nothing.
	Okay.
	So you're still hung up on him then?
	Well, also, nobody asked me on date.
	Really?
	I swear.
	Nobody like approaches me.
	Wait, so is this like your first heartbreak then, realistically?
	Like, it's the first guy you've like genuinely been in love with?
	No, it's my second.
	Second.
	Okay.
	Wait, so he broke up with you?
	Mm-hmm.
	And he was moving to you said Oregon, was it?
	Okay.
	What's the nature of your guys' conversation?
	Like is there conversation about you guys getting back together?
	No, I try to avoid that like topic if it gets brought up.
	Does he bring it up?
	He has, yeah.
	What was the thing, though, that you said about he was the only guy who ever broke up with you?
	I've had boyfriends before and I was usually the one to break it off.
	But you said it didn't sit right with you, I think, is what you said, that he broke up with you.
	So.
	I guess I didn't really get closure from it.
	Like, I didn't get enough of a reason.
	What was the reason he gave?
	That he was moving.
	That seems like perfectly reasonable justification.
	Yeah, but it's like, I don't know.
	It's just not enough to make me get over it, I guess.
	Like, I understand it.
	Yeah, like I understand it.
	It's completely valid.
	Wait, you don't have closure?
	Yeah.
	What closure do you need other than him breaking up with you for moving?
	I need to get away with that.
	What else do you have to get up with?
	Okay, what if he were to tell you that the only reason I broke up with you is I don't want to do long-distance relationship.
	Is that not sufficient closure?
	And I'm assuming that's what he told you.
	I don't know.
	I just think breakups are not always mutual.
	So it's like hard when it's not a mutual thing.
	Haven't you done that to the multiple other, all the other guys you dated?
	Was it mutual?
	No.
	You ended it with them, right?
	Yeah.
	I'm not saying it's an unfair thing to do or like not a right thing to do.
	He has, like, complete ability to do whatever he wants.
	But what other – so you said you don't feel like you've gotten closure.
	Mm-hmm.
	Like I haven't moved past it.
	I haven't healed it in myself.
	It's not something that he can give me.
	Like I think closure is up to you.
	You guys, but you've been you only dated for one year, right?
	Yeah, like a little less than that.
	Been a year since you broke up, right?
	It's a long time to still be.
	I mean, probably.
	I don't know, it took me four years to get over my first love, and I was like...
	Four years?
	Yeah, I was like 14.
	I'm just like a person that really lingers on it on accident.
	Can I ask you a question?
	I mean, well, one last thing.
	So perhaps the reason you're not able to get over him is because you've been in constant communication with him for a year.
	No, not constant.
	We didn't show talking until like a few months ago.
	But now you're in constant communication.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, your thing.
	Oh, I was just wondering who initiates.
	Like, if you were to not text him at all, would he still be texting you every day?
	Um, yeah.
	I think so.
	Okay, so he initiates?
	Um, we both do.
	So if you didn't at all, would you guys go like a few days or a week or a month without talking?
	I don't think so.
	I think he'd like send me a reel or a snap or whatever.
	Okay.
	Is he exploring his options?
	Where has he gone to college, has he?
	He's going to community college in Oregon.
	Is he going to a different city?
	What do you mean?
	Has he moved?
	You said he moved?
	Yeah.
	So he moved to a different city or yeah, he moved to Oregon.
	Yeah.
	So is he exploring his options over there?
	Have you spoken to him about that?
	I don't know.
	He probably is.
	He's allowed to do what he wants.
	So maybe you're just sort of getting kept on the line there, you know?
	Having fun, but then he's still got you for that.
	But then couldn't you argue that I'm like doing the same thing to him?
	Yeah, I wouldn't say it's going to be a good idea.
	Maybe your feelings are more invested.
	How do you know that?
	Well, he broke up.
	Because no man is going to let you go if he's in love with you and wants to be with you.
	Yeah.
	Do you think it's realistic to stay long distance for four years?
	Like, no, no, no.
	Yeah, or you figure it out.
	It won't happen when you're young.
	But I'm coming from a different kind of place of it.
	I don't think that that would be essentially realistic, but I think that there's a way it could be worked out if it was meant to.
	I don't know.
	He can't like undo what college he chose to go to.
	Okay, so could you move there or no?
	No, I'm going to school here.
	Okay.
	And so it's not like an option to do any sort of transferring?
	No.
	Okay.
	Love at first sight, you said.
	Is he an athlete?
	Um, no.
	What did it look like?
	Was it sort of the sun in his face and wind in the hair?
	I just really liked his smile.
	Like when I first saw him and he smiled at me, I was like, that's a beautiful man right there.
	So he's a good-looking guy.
	I think so, yeah.
	Fair moons.
	Yeah, who's that?
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Well, perhaps we can explore it a bit more later.
	I'll get through some more of the chats.
	We have Happily Married here.
	Why don't I have you read it?
	You'll be our reader for us.
	Go ahead.
	You.
	Me?
	Yeah, go ahead, read it, please.
	Men who display emotions freely are dangerous and violent prone.
	Men must learn to be strong-minded and have discipline from strong male role models.
	Fathers need to step up.
	Women pick better men.
	Yo, happily married.
	Thank you for the message.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	Well put.
	All right.
	We have Dylan Joe.
	Thank you for the message.
	Go ahead.
	I love the USA, but compared to Japanese girls, the chicks here are so rude.
	I asked a girl in Tokyo for a coffee date, and not only did she accept, but she also refused to let me pay.
	What can we learn?
	Invite Japanese escorts to the pod.
	So by the way, if you're interested in Japanese women, that last word that you used is a slur.
	So I would just not call them that.
	Pod?
	What was the last word?
	J-A-P.
	That's like a slur, I'm pretty sure.
	Jack.
	Don't say that.
	That's what they called them in World War II when the bombers were coming towards us.
	I think he was maybe just trying to fit everything into that.
	I do know what you're talking about.
	It is a slur, but I don't think.
	I don't think that was.
	Sure, fair enough.
	Japanese.
	You know what?
	We should get some Japanese escorts on the podcast.
	As long as we can get a bow.
	We need to get the bow.
	I feel like they would be pretty nice.
	But yeah.
	Or just some Japanese girls on that.
	I don't know if we've had from Japan any Japanese girls on the show, but maybe in the bow.
	A bow?
	Yeah.
	If she's an escort, you might get more than a bow.
	If you're lucky, you're going to get more than a bow.
	Noodles on the bench.
	Nice one.
	Let's see.
	I think we're all caught up on the chats.
	Why don't we do this?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Oh, he's fast with it.
	Scroll up to the new activity.
	Yeah.
	Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	If you're watching on Twitch, drop us a follow.
	If you're watching on Twitch, drop us a prime.
	Just check if you have a prime available.
	Also, if you're watching on YouTube, just open up another tab.
	Go to twitch.tv slash whatever to drop us a follow.
	We are doing some Twitch exclusive streams on there.
	The streaming quality is better on there.
	And who knows?
	Maybe Maddie's going to start playing World of Warcraft.
	We'll see.
	It's in the works.
	Okay, so let's get back on track here.
	So I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes here.
	So where do we start?
	Actually, Austin, can you pull up?
	Actually, let's do Discord 2.
	We got to do Discord, the BTS tab, and then we're going to do the first React that we have.
	Oh, that's right.
	Okay, just get it going again when you can.
	And by the way, guys, by the way, I just want to say, chat, me, Jake, and Madison, we did an IRL stream last night.
	It was very good.
	If you want to watch it, it's on the live tab on our YouTube channel.
	Yeah, you can access out of that.
	No, you can keep that one.
	That's fine.
	Okay, so, guys, posted the BTS of the kickout from Tuesday on our Discord.
	Please join discord.gg/slash whatever.
	If you have Discord, we post BTS.
	I'm going to be posting all the hate mail that I get in that hate mail channel.
	And we're going to be doing some couple other cool things on the Discord.
	So be sure to check it out.
	Thanks, guys.
	And then pull up that first React that we have.
	Porphyvour.
	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	Also, hashtag big labia matter.
	Very important cause.
	Just wanted to remind you of that.
	I have no idea what that means, but okay, thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Like the video, guys.
	So wanted to talk about this really quick, though.
	Actually, one sec.
	What is it?
	Panel.
	Just show of hands.
	Do you think it's either a bit of a red flag or an eyebrow raise if a man's hobby is playing video games?
	Show of hands?
	Is it an unattractive deal breaker?
	It depends on the red flag.
	I mean, if he's in his mom's basement and he hasn't washed in a week and his underwear can stand up by itself, it's probably a little bit too much video game playing, in my opinion.
	Okay.
	So go ahead, pull it back up.
	So did you really pay for skins in a video game?
	And then, because I guess in Fortnite, you guys are familiar, right?
	Scroll down.
	And this is kind of the rebuttal.
	Did you really pay for nails on your nails?
	I just thought this was.
	That's funny.
	So we're paying for skins in video games, and you guys are paying for skins on your nails.
	Anyways, you can exile that one.
	What are the other Reacts that we have?
	We have a picture of a bunch of women.
	True Breakers and Women's Radio Guide.
	We'll come to that one later.
	What's the next one?
	It's a men's radio guy.
	Next one?
	It's a picture of a woman.
	With the tattoos?
	No, before that.
	Oh, next one.
	We have an Instagram of a lady.
	I don't know who it is.
	Next one.
	Yeah, really quick.
	I just wanted to, before we get into the pre-show notes, so tattoos.
	I wanted to have a conversation about this.
	Deal breaker, not a deal breaker.
	Do you object to men who don't find tattoos attractive on a woman?
	I have tattoos.
	I'm probably the one that has the most.
	Can you show the shoulder ones or whatever?
	What's the nautical star?
	Thank you.
	That's what I'm saying.
	There you go.
	So, Jake, you have some tattoos.
	Jake, do you prefer a girl with...
	No tattoos. No tattoos.
	But you have tattoos.
	So what would you say to somebody?
	Well, you have tattoos yourself.
	Jake, that's very hypocritical of you.
	Is it a deal breaker?
	It's a preference.
	It is pretty close to a deal breaker for me, I would say.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'd say that men wear tattoos a lot better, especially into old age.
	That's all I'd say.
	Who here has tattoos?
	What about one?
	You have one tattoo?
	That's one.
	I think that's especially the little ones.
	I don't like them.
	Is that too much, Jake?
	Yeah, that's too much.
	Too much?
	Okay.
	What is that?
	It's a feather.
	Isn't that like the New Zealand leaf or whatever?
	Yeah, that's why.
	We don't want that too leaf.
	It's a symbol of my trivial.
	Furring leaf?
	Is that what it's called?
	I don't know.
	What's the New Zealand leaf?
	I don't know.
	We didn't really talk to you.
	It's not a New Zealand leaf.
	That's fair.
	You have a tattoo?
	Yeah.
	How many?
	Just one.
	Where?
	It's really shit.
	My friend did it.
	That's a lazy job.
	Too much?
	Yeah, it is a lazy job.
	It's awful.
	Too much, Jake?
	Yeah, she can get it laser.
	Are you going to get a laser nose?
	I am going to get a laser nose.
	Okay.
	You have tattoos?
	Yes.
	Quite a few.
	Yep.
	Tattoos.
	Any tattoos?
	I have two.
	Two tattoos?
	Tattoos?
	I've got tattoos.
	You're way too far from tattoo virgin.
	I have no tattoos.
	Zero tattoos.
	All right.
	I don't have any tattoos, but Jake, you got a couple.
	So, Jake, why is it a deal breaker for you?
	I just find it unattractive.
	And I think that women don't wear tattoos as well as guys.
	And it's just a preference of mine.
	I definitely wouldn't want to date myself.
	You wouldn't want to date yourself?
	No.
	Do you regret your tattoos?
	No, I love my tattoos.
	And then I do want to pose the question to chat.
	Chat, do you guys prefer tattoos or no tattoos?
	Is it a deal breaker?
	Does it matter the amount of tattoos, the quality of the tattoos?
	My position on this is that I don't think it's a deal breaker.
	Unless it's like a lot of tattoos or low-quality tattoos.
	But I would say that for most men, I think tattoos, it's either neutral or negative.
	Now, there's some men who will think it's like they might almost have a fetish for it or whatever.
	Like heavily tattooed women.
	But I think most men, it's neutral or negative.
	You're never getting into like positive, oh, she has a tattoo.
	I want to date her more.
	It's either neutral, I tolerate it, or negative.
	Any thoughts on this?
	I saw this study and it had to do with like they went with men and women, they did polls, and for whatever reason, thigh tattoos were more attractive on women.
	And I can't remember what it was for men, but also, no offense to anyone who has a lot of tattoos, another study said that the more tattoos that you have, the more likely for mental illness.
	So for me personally, a lot of tattoos is like red flag.
	We actually have a study on this, Austin, if you can pick it up or pull it up, please.
	Is it the girl?
	No, it's the study.
	Yeah.
	We'll pull her up in a sec.
	But it says prevalence of tattoos is higher among people with mental disorders and those likely to come in contact with mental health services.
	Psychiatric disorders such as anti-Are you going to pull it up?
	Okay, yeah, I think I have this.
	Such as antisocial personality disorder.
	You can make it a little bigger.
	Psychiatric implications of tattoos.
	Drug or alcohol abuse.
	Drug or alcohol abuse and borderline personality disorder are frequently associated with tattoos.
	Now I do want to be fair.
	This is a study from 1990.
	I should point out.
	That's big.
	Now, to be fair, I think the stigma with tattoos has decreased significantly since 1990.
	But still probably a bit true.
	I do think it can be a proxy for mental illness or trauma.
	Can't disagree.
	Oh, is that the case for you?
	You said drug and alcohol abuse, so you know.
	I got that.
	I can't really argue on that.
	What were the drugs that you were abusing?
	I like pills.
	Well, I'm in recovery, too.
	And my husband is as well.
	And neither of us have any tattoos.
	I'm just saying me personally.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Do you have something?
	Yeah, I was just going to say, like, for me, I feel like tattoos are just kind of like more rugged.
	And like my, like, my husband, he swears a lot.
	And like, kind of, when he talks, he says, like, a lot of the f-bombs and a lot of that stuff.
	And I just think it sounds so different coming from my mouth or like a teenage girl's mouth.
	And I kind of look at tattoos like that as well.
	Okay.
	I'm in the music, so I kind of like my aesthetic, like how it is, like, performing-wise.
	I think it's like aesthetic on me and kind of fits.
	And I've, since I was a kid, I've wanted tattoos.
	So, I mean, I know the stigma and I know it all.
	I personally like them.
	I like guys with tattoos.
	I like girls with tattoos more.
	I do think that's a good point that you raised, though.
	I do think tattoos tend to be associated with more rough women who might lean to be like less feminine.
	And men typically find femininity attractive in women.
	So I'd also say it's like when I see women with a lot of tattoos, I tend to see it is quite chaotic.
	I think there's potentially quite a lot of chaos in your personality if you make big erratic decisions like that to ink up your body.
	Whereas I think that with guys, tattoos generally tend to be not a very big deal, you know?
	But if you, I mean, some girls really wouldn't like them, but for the most part, I've never had a girl who said to me, I wouldn't date you because of your tattoos.
	I mean, I disagree with that.
	I think, like, if you're into tattoos and like have them, I think a lot of guys, like, there's stigmas and everything, but at the end of the day, it's like, my friends are tattoo artists.
	I appreciate the art of tattooing.
	I used to watch videos of like the ancient tattooers and everything, and like, I appreciate the art of tattoos.
	I'm like, look, at the beginning, I looked at your own, I'm like, ooh, what tattoo does he have?
	And that's kind of what how my vision of tattoos are.
	And like, people see it like, oh, like, you don't put bumper stickers on a Bentley, but I like the art of it.
	I like the art of it too.
	And all of mine are like dot work from different.
	I've gone to different countries and gotten different tattoos around the world.
	So I like, I love the art of it, but I just, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want my daughter to do it.
	I wouldn't want it to be on my wife, and it's just a preference of mine.
	It's oh, just I had the question with that.
	Do you not appreciate the art?
	Like, if a girl has a very cool, detailed, super nice, like, expensive tattoo.
	As long as I'm not dating her, I can appreciate it.
	Okay, I see.
	Yeah, for sure.
	It's kind of like you don't put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari, you know?
	Okay, it's a thing.
	Like, that's.
	What?
	I said that.
	Like, people have been saying that forever.
	That's what I mean.
	Yeah.
	Saying what forever?
	What you just said.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, the photo.
	Do you want to pull up the photo of the.
	What do you think, Jake?
	Which one do you.
	Left or right?
	Honestly, that's depressing to see that.
	Yeah, definitely right.
	Definitely right.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, they did challenge her.
	She's definitely been doing some drugs since the last time.
	Her teeth are different as well.
	Like, there's different things besides her tattoos.
	It's like hidden in there.
	But that's like a very extreme, too.
	Like, especially face.
	I have tattoos, but face tattoos and like neck tattoos are a jailbreaker for me in a man, even.
	And I do appreciate tattoos, but I can't do face earth.
	I think it's a red flag if a man has no visual skin on their body and every single part of him is tattooed, like head to toe.
	Oh, he's heavily tattooed.
	I see.
	I'm like, what does he basically overcompensate for or get a fulfillment?
	I just didn't appreciate her tattoos.
	Like, I wouldn't look at her and be like, wow, that's a cool tattoo that I'd want to analyze and be like, what's the meaning?
	Like, that's why I don't think it's attractive.
	Okay, very cool.
	Coming back to you here.
	So, Ava, right?
	Eva or Eva?
	Eva.
	Eva?
	So that's like option three.
	Okay.
	Eva.
	Okay.
	It's Evangeline, my full name, so that's why.
	Oh, that's cool.
	Eva.
	You said you had a boyfriend who cheated on you.
	Yeah.
	Is that the most recent one?
	No.
	The previous one.
	Okay.
	He had another girlfriend the whole time.
	Yeah.
	He told you that she was his ex-he told me that she was his ex-girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	So he said that like he had broken up with his ex when we started talking and then we started dating and he was like continuing dating her the whole time and I didn't know.
	How long were you guys together?
	Like five months, not that long.
	And you said you think that actively watching and engaging with porn is cheating?
	Yeah.
	I think it's like engaging in a one-way sex act and it's if it's my partner that's doing it, like that's just you going outside of the boundaries of the relationship.
	And I assume this would apply both ways, right?
	If a woman were to watch porn, she would also be cheating.
	Opening this up to the panel, do you think that watching porn while in a relationship is cheating?
	No, but I don't like it.
	You don't like it, okay?
	No.
	Not cheating?
	Not cheating.
	Light, but do you dislike it if your partner were to watch porn?
	If it's like an only fan situation where they're paying the woman, but if they're just watching porn.
	That's what I'm saying.
	No issue.
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	Same answer as her.
	Okay.
	I don't necessarily think it's necessary.
	So you wouldn't want it?
	No.
	Okay.
	I see it as cheating, yeah.
	Cheating, okay.
	I think it's fun to watch it together, actually.
	It's kind of sexy.
	All right.
	That's cheating.
	That's deal breaker.
	Cheating.
	Jake, your thoughts.
	I wouldn't put it in the boundary of cheating, but I'd say it's very much undesirable.
	Right.
	Women find it undesirable, certainly.
	What would be the, because I don't know if women consume porn at the same rates of men, and there's obviously differentials between men and women here.
	I wonder if the perhaps counter to women's disdain for their partners or men watching porn would be women who use social media.
	Would you say that's a fair comparison?
	That's actually a direct comparison.
	Insofar as used, but like overly used social media have a public profile and are doing it's like a gratuitous use of social media for attention as opposed to needing it for something.
	Any challenges there from the panel?
	I mean, unless it's, like, your job, like, there's also...
	Yeah, if you need it for your work and if you're, like, into marketing or if you've got something going on, then...
	Like, if you were dating someone and you're posting on social media like that, that's different.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Using social media, that's what you said?
	I mean, it doesn't map on 100% one-to-one, but I think men are much more sex-driven and women are much more attention-driven, and you guys get attention through social media.
	Yeah, I would actually say that social media for women is like what porn is for men in terms of instant gratification.
	Because men can just go and get their rocks off straight away, but with women, they can get attention.
	And those are the two things that we both sort of go towards in terms of instant gratification.
	I can see that too because they can also be addicted.
	They both are addictive.
	It completely depends on the context.
	Well, I mean, generally speaking, when we talk about instant gratification for guys, it's like a sexual thing, right?
	If a guy's like, people call them incels, they involuntary celebrant, then they'll go on porn all the time, just for instant gratification rather than doing the hard work.
	But for women, I'd say that attention is the thing that they go towards in terms of that instant gratification.
	That actually sort of sours your character a little bit.
	But I still think it depends on the context of what you're doing on social media.
	Like what if you're posting stuff about your husband or your kids?
	I'd say that's not, you know, if it's in the parameters of like a private account where you've just got family and friends and you're posting about your family, then that's always.
	And what if you're talking about like niche life experiences?
	What do you mean as in like going traveling and that sort of thing?
	As in like say like say like recovery related type of thing or like documenting, you know.
	Yeah, so it kind of falls into what I was saying before in terms of having like a purpose to use it that's outside of just like I said like gratuitous attention seeking.
	I mean I definitely think get like that it feels good to get like lots of lights or go viral or whatever but yeah.
	But it's more about like what's the intention behind it?
	Because if the intention is male validation because you see that all the time like you'll see a girl who has a boyfriend who's just posting these bikini photos where her ass is out and there's all these thirsty guys.
	There's literally no need for that if you have a if you're in a relationship and that that for me would be completely unacceptable.
	Right, 100%.
	I can't do that.
	But if you're just like one of those like Face like Instagram pages where she's talking has like a little community of women and they're talking about their freaking chakras or whatever then and their dinner dates and their tea parties and shit, like that's fine.
	But if it's just if it's directed towards male attention, then that's it.
	So if it's directed towards male attention, you would say that's the equivalent of that.
	And DMs would probably be off unless you follow the person, I'd say.
	So you want to date a lingerie swim model because she'd be opposed to that.
	God, no.
	You can touch it with a 10-foot pole.
	No.
	Too much, too much attention.
	No, what's insecure about it?
	That you can't handle the woman getting attention for her work?
	No, I just wouldn't want my wife putting her body online for everyone else to see because that should be within the sanctity of my home.
	Well, what if that's her job to wear stuff like that that draws herself?
	I wouldn't go towards somebody who has a job where they have to show their body off all the time.
	Simple.
	And what's the reason for that?
	Because that's mine to see.
	It's not the world's to see.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What's insecure about that?
	Respect thing.
	I think it's all preference.
	But why is it insecure?
	You called it insecure.
	Maybe it's not insecure for you, but I think there's a lot of guys who feel insecure from a woman having that job.
	Why is it insecure?
	Wait, wouldn't it actually be super, wouldn't it be, so you said bikini lingerie model?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So a guy who's willing to pass up a woman who, on paper, is so attractive that she's able to do lingerie modeling, swimsuit modeling, he's willing to pass up such an attractive woman.
	Wouldn't that actually be really secure?
	He's not willing to date her despite her beauty because of the work she does.
	Well, what's your name again?
	Jake.
	I think Jake's values are in the right place, so I don't see it as insecure.
	But I think there are a lot of men out there who want that type of woman and can't handle it when they actually date this kind of woman.
	And I don't really understand the exact.
	I think that it's maybe something that's intrinsic within men, that when we have our woman, it's our woman, and we don't want anybody else seeing her body.
	And there's something that even if you're sort of like a guy who says that he's completely fine with it, there's going to be something that grates on you about that because you've got all of these guys who are seeing your body.
	And that's what marriage is.
	You get walked down the aisle in your white dress and your father hopefully gives you away to the guy and then you become one.
	And that's the sanctity of marriage is being able to engage in that sort of relationship with each other where nobody else gets to see.
	Well, I think they get to see you in one way where, like in a sexual way with your partner.
	But that's what the modeling is.
	I don't think modelling needs to be sexualized just because a woman Isn't wearing like a full coverage outfit doesn't mean she's trying to allude to sex.
	I think there's advertising for lingerie, which I guess you wear lingerie.
	But the reason why you advertise for lingerie is because it's a sexual thing and you need to sexualize the lingerie in order to sell it.
	But yes.
	Swim swim wear might be a little bit different, but I still wouldn't do it because just for the mere fact that I wouldn't want everybody seeing my wife's body in that way.
	But lingerie is a little bit different because lingerie is a sexual thing and it's sort of meant to spice up the bedroom.
	I understand there's a market for it and I think it would be a healthy thing for couples to engage in that if they want to.
	But in terms of the modeling side of it, it would just be too much of a.
	It would just be something that I wouldn't personally go for myself.
	Is it a broad statement over like people that model like lingerie and stuff?
	Are you saying that like or you sorry, are you saying that as an overall thing of other people doing it or yourself?
	Because you don't you post like fully naked pictures online?
	No.
	No, I don't.
	Oh, that kind of stuff online.
	No, I'm just saying if I think if you were posting like full nudes, which I don't really know if people can post that on Instagram, I guess some people get away with it.
	I think that's being attention-seeking.
	You're trying to gain attention from that.
	Well, like OnlyFans.
	Like if you're a porn star or doing OnlyFans.
	That was kind of where I was going there.
	And what's the question about it?
	When you were talking about him or men being insecure of being a model, like you said, modeling isn't sexual, but what about OnlyFans works?
	Oh, OnlyFans.
	Different story completely.
	I just mean like campaigns, advertisements that you walk into a mall and see you wouldn't date a Victoria's Secret model because, oh, she's showing off her body.
	Yeah.
	But that's in accordance with my values.
	I understand that there would be guys who would take the sexual side of things and they'd be more willing to have somebody who's really hot and sexy and less about the values that I would hold more dear.
	But yeah, for me, the value of sanctity is much more important for me than sexuality.
	If a man is comfortable knowing that millions of other men are lusting and looking at his girl in like a sexual way, then that.
	But I think that it's like natural for guys to also be possessive.
	Yeah.
	And then guys know it's natural to also lust.
	So I think a lot of guys would be not like that because they're possessive of the person that they're with.
	I don't think that's wrong.
	I mean, I think it's attractive if somebody has that in them.
	Like they want to be the only person to see their woman that way.
	So would you quit your work then if somebody asked that of you?
	No.
	I'm a lingerie designer.
	What if he provided for you and you didn't have to?
	I have passion behind my work.
	I would never.
	But what about if you could do the design part and you could do the marketing part, but you didn't have to do the modeling part?
	Would that be a compromise that you would do?
	You'd take down the OnlyFans and the Instagram photos and everything, private little Instagram, just you and your friends and you just do purely the business side of it.
	I've just been on Instagram.
	There's nothing.
	Would you do that?
	Because you said you've got an OnlyFans.
	Yes.
	So shut down anything in terms of public nudity in any regards?
	I'd shut down my OnlyFans for sure.
	And the only reason I'm doing OnlyFans is to self-fund my lingerie business.
	We launched next February, so we are a startup and it's too expensive to manufacture.
	Do you go by a different name on OnlyFans?
	I have a...
	You have your main OnlyFans and then you have another one, Renee?
	Renee?
	Renee Richards, yeah.
	Yeah, is that yours?
	That's mine.
	So, what kind of content do you post on there?
	Lingerie.
	You don't post anything nude?
	No, I do have nudity on my account.
	You literally, she was asking you, and I'm pretty sure you said you don't do nudity?
	Like just on Instagram.
	No, I said once.
	I said on OnlyFans, but maybe it got miscommunicated.
	Okay, so you do do nudity.
	Implied nudity, yes.
	Well, I'm seeing, I've pulled up your OnlyFans here and it says, my VIP club allows you to get exclusive content, weekly, in-depth conversations with me daily.
	Access to my pussy and naughtiest content, customs, private lives, VIP.
	Access to your pussy.
	Subscribe to find out.
	You want to walk back some of the things you've been saying a little bit here?
	No.
	Wait, so why didn't you say that?
	So Jake here was saying he wants his woman to be his.
	He doesn't want to see other people to see it.
	So he doesn't want other people to have access to his woman's pussy, which you essentially called insecure.
	Is that the new thing?
	No, that's taking it pretty far.
	I was just speaking in the terms of modeling and the modeling side of the things I'm doing.
	Right, but you were like, the frame here was like you were kind of talking about yourself to some degree.
	Yeah, I was talking about my modeling.
	Right, but you weren't letting on the full scope of your online content creator.
	Oh, we were on that topic.
	Well, that's why I was confused when I asked you if it was like a broad thing of like women or like more specifically you.
	Because if you're talking about lingerie, like that's one thing like with other women, but I thought with you you meant.
	I got confused on that.
	Do you think that a guy would be insecure if he saw that and said that he doesn't want to date you?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Oh, do I think, I think that would make him insecure and he wouldn't want to date me.
	No, do you think that if you were dating a guy, went on a first date and you said, I've got this OnlyFans, he looked it up and saw that and he said, oh, sorry, I don't want to date you.
	Do you think that that would be an insecurity?
	I don't know.
	I think it's just like a personal preference.
	Like, I can't say whether the guy's insecure or not.
	What do you think?
	I don't think it has so much to do with insecurity.
	It's more like just what are your values?
	Like, what do you prefer?
	Do you think that, because the way that I say it is that if a guy sees that and he does engage with dating a girl like that, I would see him as actually very insecure because he's just allowing that to be all over the internet.
	And I'd say that a secure man has very firm boundaries.
	And the boundaries would be, no, you cannot get naked and talk about your pussy on the internet.
	That's mine.
	I'm the only one who gets to see that.
	So I'd say that that's actually very secure and someone who's firm in their boundaries.
	Would you agree?
	I agree.
	Good point.
	We call those beta males.
	With that in mind, though, in terms of your own dating prospects, why would you do that if you are looking to engage in something serious in the future?
	Because I have a business that I'm starting and I make a lot of money through my OnlyFans and I want to self-fund my business.
	So do you think that your business is more important than potentially having a family?
	Yes, 100%.
	So you think that that's a good trade-off?
	Is money over you'd be happy to be single for the rest of your life as long as you have your lingerie business?
	As long as I have my lingerie business, I don't care about meeting anybody or having that's my number one priority in life.
	Do you think that will fulfill you long term?
	Yes.
	How so?
	I love it.
	And I'm very close with my family.
	My mom is my business partner.
	What about when your mom dies?
	That would suck.
	I can't even imagine.
	Wait, your mom is your business partner?
	Yeah.
	And she is.
	And she's so she's aware of the OnlyFans access to your pussy thing.
	We're very close.
	She knows every single thing about my OFF.
	Does she shoot for you?
	Shoot my content?
	Yeah.
	No, it's self-shot.
	Everything on my OF is shot shot.
	Do you have an OF?
	No.
	God bother.
	Wait, what does your mom think about the whole prostitution thing?
	Prostitution.
	Yeah.
	You mean my OnlyFans?
	Well, it is a form of prostitution if you're exactly.
	I'm not saying you're a streetwalker, but I'm not.
	You're saying my OnlyFans is prostitution.
	Sex work.
	Sex work, yeah.
	That's not prostitution.
	Selling your body and getting money is 100% prostitution.
	Okay, for lack of respect.
	I mean, I don't know if it's.
	And you're saying, does my mom know about it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she knows about my OnlyFans.
	Is she in favor of it, against it?
	What does she think?
	She, I mean, she knows the kind of content I post, and sometimes, like, I'll send her the sets because I'm really proud of, like, the type of photos that I'm creating for there.
	So, yeah, I mean, she doesn't have anything negative to say.
	Would she rather me not have an OnlyFans?
	I'm sure.
	But we're business partners together, and I'm funding the business.
	So I don't really know what else I could do besides.
	Would the business run without the OnlyFans?
	Would it operate at a profit or at a loss?
	We haven't launched yet.
	So I'm not sure, but when we do launch, I'm sure that will be the case, and that is the plan.
	Also, just to clarify on the prostitution thing, so just the definition, the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.
	But you're not engaging, it's like online.
	You said conversation, so you're, like, are you messaging?
	Or anyone who's engaging in your photos and your videos or whatever.
	I mean, that is a two-way street.
	It's not really a physical thing.
	And then you did say you're like, well, that's like the disrespectful way.
	What would be the respectful way to describe it?
	I don't think I do OnlyFans are prostitutes.
	I think that's a huge stretch.
	I mean, is Cardi be a prostitute because she has an OnlyFans?
	She actually was.
	Yes.
	She was, but I don't think all these celebrities who are on there are prostitutes.
	She's a terrible example as well.
	Yeah, that was a bad example.
	But there's other celebrities on there, singers, and a bunch of other types of entertainers who aren't prostitutes.
	Don't you think that's a little bit of an insecurity thing, though?
	Like being called something like a prostitute?
	Like if you're passionate and you're like self-confident with your job and everything, like wouldn't that be insecure where you got like offended being called a prostitute?
	I am offended by that and I am insecure about having an OnlyFans.
	I hate that I have to have one.
	It really sucks.
	I wish I was just a trust fund baby to where I could have a bunch of money to start my business, but I am a lingerie model, so I have a great platform to start something like an OnlyFans.
	How many Instagram followers do you have?
	A million point three.
	So why would you need an OnlyFans if you've got such a big platform on Instagram?
	Couldn't you just start small and just work your way up, work with influencers, get a digital marketing agent?
	Manufacturing.
	That's why people do pre-orders and stuff like that.
	But like, I mean, I've got my own business in terms of my channel and the content we do.
	We started from the bottom and we've just had to grind, and it's a slow process.
	Brian has the same thing.
	I'm sure other people at the table as well.
	But those sort of things like that.
	Fast money comes with fast consequences as well.
	Dirty money comes with dirty consequences.
	And that sort of thing, going into that, to then sort of elevate yourself in the future will have negative ramifications.
	What would the negative ramifications be?
	You won't be able to, like, a guy that you will want to be with won't want to be with you because of that, because of that past.
	Your husband and future children will not appreciate naked photos and videos of you being out there on the internet.
	Well, that's not the person I would choose.
	I wouldn't choose a person who had a problem with that.
	Well, you can't choose your children.
	You just would pick for you.
	I can choose my lover, and I wouldn't choose who you had any children.
	Do you want children now?
	I would love to be a stepmom.
	And if somebody wants to have children with me, I'm definitely open to it.
	Did you say that you said you don't like it, but that it brings Hills of Beverly donated $200.
	Thank you, Hills.
	Ladies, a chunk of you seem confused.
	What do you actually want?
	What are you looking for?
	We'll come to that in a sec.
	So you have your question for her, and then we'll get to the TTS.
	Yeah, so like you said, you don't like it, right?
	But it's just bringing you money for your lingerie business, right?
	Okay, so like I have a past and basically when I was in certain things that I felt were demoralizing to a sense, but maybe financially profitable, like I started coming up with this analogy of how I felt and I felt like every transactional, every transactional thing that I was doing that brought me money externally was like morally bankrupting myself.
	That's just like I got to that.
	I understand what you're saying.
	I don't feel, what was the word you use?
	Like morally bankrupt.
	Morally bankrupt.
	I don't feel morally bankrupt about having an OnlyFans at all.
	I feel very judged for it, but I'm very proud of the content I put out.
	So if everybody was fine with it, then you would be fine with it too.
	Yeah, of course.
	Because I'm really proud of like the photo sets I put out.
	I think they're very sexy.
	They're very.
	Would you do it for free?
	Yes.
	Because I love content creation.
	I'm a creative director, so I really like it.
	So if you had, it didn't earn you any money whatsoever and you still had all the shame and the social stigma that you feel, you would do it still for free.
	Well, I think that's what Instagram is.
	But it's not putting naked photos of yourself on Instagram.
	Oh, no, but I would take photos for free.
	I'm talking specifically about the OnlyFans stuff.
	Would you do that for free?
	Well, I mean, I kind of do the same thing on my Instagram as I do on my OnlyFans.
	But I think it's a little bit different.
	I thought it was not from what we just did.
	It's not that different.
	Like we all heard you.
	Sorry I didn't call you awesome, but we all heard you say that Instagram is totally different from OnlyFans.
	But the process of it, taking photos.
	That's not what he's getting.
	He's getting at the quote pussy.
	Oh, the pussy thing on there?
	Like, yeah, I think that's the big part, like, full access to your.
	Would you show it for free?
	Because you're passionate about it and you enjoy doing it.
	Well, I do want to move on a little bit, porn bad.
	So going to the TTS, Hills of Beverly, he asks, what do you actually want?
	What are you looking for?
	Go ahead.
	That's a big question.
	I would like to be loved.
	That's what I'm looking for.
	Somebody that's actually loving.
	Well, I'm sure there's plenty of guys that would be prepared to love you, I suppose, but they would perhaps, like, have you ever rejected a guy?
	Yeah.
	But even though he was prepared to love you, right?
	So I'm sure there's more criteria than just he a willingness to love you.
	Somebody that I'm like interested in, I don't know.
	So what are some, maybe you can give us just maybe some physical metrics that you look for, personality metrics?
	Taller than me and interested in something like.
	Okay, how tall are you?
	Five six or seven.
	Okay.
	And taller than you, so five eight.
	That's fine.
	I've dated somebody that was the same height as me, too.
	Okay.
	Is the I know you're young, but money, is that a component at all?
	Um.
	Like you would you date a guy who works at McDonald's?
	They make a lot of money.
	They make like 20 an hour, right?
	Well.
	Compared to me, I mean, I don't have a job.
	I just go to school, so.
	Okay, so but you would date somebody who works at McDonald's.
	Sure, yeah, if I like them, if they were nice.
	Sure.
	Any other personality traits that you care about?
	I would like for them to share the same humor as me.
	Which is what?
	I don't know how to describe my humor, like dry, kind of.
	Dry, sarcastic.
	I don't like when I make like a sarcastic comment, a guy's like, oh, did I do something wrong?
	Did I offend you?
	And I was just joking.
	Okay.
	It kind of turns me away.
	What about you?
	What do you want and what are you looking for?
	I'd like somebody like Andrew Tate.
	Somebody with somebody with like similar values to you, or a Charlie Kirk, or Candace Owens.
	Like, I really love those values.
	It sucks that it doesn't align in some ways.
	So, Andrew Tate and Charlie Kirk, they're pretty much.
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess like a good combo.
	Tate made sense because Tate's more like he has wives, different wives.
	He's a Muslim, like kids with the different wives and that sort of thing.
	And he's happy to not be so directly engaged with the woman.
	And I don't think that your lifestyle would bother him that much.
	But with Charlie Kirk, that sort of character, they're going to be looking for somebody who's very Christian and actually really abides by that way of life.
	We'll go around the table on this, but on what you're saying, Jake, in your pre-show notes, you said that you're a conservative and God-fearing OnlyFans creator.
	Yes.
	I'm a kinky Christian.
	That's blasphemous.
	That has to be blasphemous.
	That's probably blasphemous.
	You're conservative.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Not just your collection.
	I'm an open-minded person.
	I don't judge people for.
	And you're God-fearing.
	Yes.
	So if God.
	You said kinky Christian, though.
	I think God fears you.
	You can be kinky and not be putting it.
	You can be kinky within your relationship with your husband or your wife and not be putting it.
	Oh, you can be kinky with your husband or wife, but not be putting it on the internet.
	So, wait, you're God-fearing.
	But so, I mean, by producing, by being involved in sex work, by producing pornographic content, by doing OnlyFans, this is probably a bit of a contradiction.
	You're Christian, correct?
	Yes.
	Which denomination?
	Non-denominational, but I was raised Methodist.
	So, I mean, wouldn't this kind of contradict the Christian faith by being involved in sex work?
	I don't think so.
	I think my relationship with God is personal.
	Do you think God wants you to be doing OnlyFans?
	I don't think God judges.
	Do you?
	Well, have you.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Only God could judge.
	Do you think God wants you to be doing OnlyFans?
	No, I think He wants me to have a successful lingerie company.
	But you're doing OnlyFans?
	Do you agree that one of the seven deadly sins is lust?
	Do I agree?
	It is.
	Yeah.
	So would you say that you feeding men's lust and sort of feeding into that industry is something that would be contradictory to the Christian world.
	It's not my fault if you have those emotions.
	If men are lusting over you and you're providing that willingly, would you say that you're a part of the process?
	You're literally contributing to it.
	It's called being a stumbling block.
	A stumbling block?
	Yeah, the Bible specifically says not to be a stumbling block for others.
	And how am I a stumbling block?
	Because you're putting yourself out there for guys.
	On the ground.
	And women are supposed to be modest.
	It talks about modesty in the Bible.
	And you're putting yourself out there so that men can come and pay for it.
	Enabling the behavior.
	Wait, did you say God can't judge you?
	No, I just said I don't think God judges me for having an OnlyFans.
	That's like the whole point of the Bible, I think.
	To follow certain morals and beliefs.
	Do you believe in the Bible?
	What?
	Yes.
	Have you read the Bible?
	Yes.
	How much of the Bible have you read?
	Like scriptures here and there are covers.
	Every night my mom sends me a Bible verse before I go to bed, and that's been ever since the day I've left the house.
	Can I share something that I learned?
	Because I used to read scriptures here and there, and I started reading the Bible cover to cover and my understanding of the Bible.
	And God is so different.
	I'm sorry.
	My bad.
	It's very different now when you read it cover to cover because God absolutely does judge.
	He tells us to leave our sin.
	And I have my own sin, right?
	I don't make excuses for my sin and I don't say that it's justified or God is not judging me.
	I know that He is and I try to do better.
	I'm not ashamed of what I'm doing though.
	So she sends you Bible verses and you send her your nudes to look over before you post them?
	They're not nudes.
	Or lingerie pics.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I think she's making a good point though about the nature of sin though, because we all fall short.
	Like we all sin.
	I lost all the time whenever I see a beautiful girl.
	You wouldn't want to know what I'm thinking.
	But I think that there's something key in that to know that it's wrong and to know that what you're doing is something that you need to try and fight against.
	And that's actually the devil playing with you and actually tempting you.
	I know you don't feel that way, but you definitely should about it.
	Pride.
	Tell me how I should feel.
	Well, I think we're going to have a conversation, and this is how I feel.
	And I'm telling you how I think you should feel.
	So it's my opinion and your opinion.
	You're welcome to your opinion, of course.
	But you are sort of when you're doing OnlyFans, you're definitely feeding into the industry of lost.
	This is absolutely paving the way for the amiseration of men who consume this content.
	Does your religious convictions supersede everything?
	What does that mean?
	Would you say your relationship with God or your religious views?
	Would you say these things, your faith is one of the most important, or if not the most important thing in your life?
	It's not the most important.
	What's more important than your faith?
	My family.
	Okay.
	So is it family, faith?
	Family, faith, career.
	Career.
	Okay, so your faith supersedes your career.
	Yes.
	Before you said the career is the most important thing, and you don't care if you're single forever.
	I didn't say besides my family.
	Like, building up.
	No, we were talking in terms of what I value having a career over finding love.
	You said you were God-fearing, right?
	So again, do you think God wants you to be doing porn?
	No.
	He doesn't want you to be doing porn.
	Of course not.
	So what intertime is doing?
	What do you think Satan wants you to be doing?
	Okay.
	What do I think Satan wants to meet?
	I don't really think about what Satan wants me to do.
	Okay, so if you're God-fearing and God doesn't want you to do porn, how do you reconcile these two kinds of conflicting?
	I don't consider myself doing porn, but I know everybody has different definitions.
	So I don't want to debate that.
	So you okay, fine.
	God doesn't want you to be posting nude or near-nude photographs on your OnlyFans.
	How about that?
	Okay.
	And let's say, do you consider it sex work?
	No.
	But it's okay.
	Like, for the sake of conversation, we don't have to debate it.
	Okay, I won't even use the term that you don't agree with.
	Do you think God wants you posting nude or near nude photographs on your OnlyFans?
	I don't think God cares about that.
	Can I ask a question?
	Go ahead.
	I've heard you talk about your mom a lot, but what about your father?
	We're very close too.
	You're very close, too.
	Does he know you do OnlyFans?
	And he knows that you have the P-word in your profile.
	I don't think he's read my profile.
	Okay.
	But if he read that, I don't think he would care because my parents, I'm very close with them.
	They know me very well.
	Are your parents still together?
	No.
	I have a stepdad too.
	We're also very close.
	And how does your stepdad feel about it?
	He supports me 100% because they know I'm building a lingerie business.
	So OnlyFans isn't my career.
	I am using my social media fans to make an income.
	Do you make of the money that you do make, what percentage comes from OnlyFans?
	The majority.
	This is like the biggest cope ever.
	Like, well, I'm currently a drug dealer selling methamphetamine to 12-year-olds, but it's in furtherance of me starting a swimsuit company down the line.
	So it's justified because I'm trying to start a legitimate business with my not-so-legitimate.
	Do you plan on stopping OnlyFans if your lingerie business takes off, even if OnlyFans makes more money than your lingerie business?
	Yes.
	Do you know where it says in the Bible to like do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else?
	Yeah.
	Where?
	I don't feel like I'm hurting anybody else if that's what I'm getting at.
	That doesn't say that in the Bible.
	Okay.
	That says that in the book of Satan, just so you know.
	It's do what thou wilt.
	But in the Bible, there's very strong as a mic drama.
	Did you have something on this?
	Kind of.
	You, well, you never said that having children was the most important thing to you.
	You said stepchildren, you would be down for that.
	But you're open to it.
	So if that was a futuristic goal, which it sounds like the only futuristic goal you have is for your business, my whole thing is, is, you know, what you put out there, it doesn't go away.
	So you meet the love of your life and they have a child or you guys have a child, whatever it may be, and they come across these pictures.
	I don't care if it's on OnlyFans or not.
	Other people are going to see it.
	It's going to happen.
	People screenshot.
	People, you know, record.
	I mean, now we all make mistakes.
	I make mistakes.
	I am not a huge, I have spirituality.
	I am a non-denominational Christian, but I am not, I don't harp the Bible every single, you know, every single moment I can, and I make mistakes, just like anyone else in most cases.
	But don't you, like, is there anything in you like, what would happen?
	What would my children think?
	Well, you wouldn't be able to say what your children would think, but like, is that something that like you think about?
	None of my content is vulgar, so I really am not ashamed of it.
	Pussy on your pussy.
	Saying the word pussy and put out your food.
	Yeah, access to your pussy.
	That's vulgar.
	Or you access to your pussy.
	But the photo, I hate even saying that word out loud, personally.
	So you're baiting them, and then you're saying you're posting like vanilla tame stuff.
	But I mean, you're baiting men to think that they can have access.
	Yeah, that's how the platform works.
	Yes.
	I feel like you're just so pretty and you seem like you, I mean, you're very well spoken.
	I just feel like there's so many other things about yourself you could utilize to make money where you're not doing a form of sex work because yes it is.
	I don't mean to say that to disrespect you.
	I say that because it's truthful.
	That's a compliment.
	Thank you so much.
	You're welcome.
	Do you have some recommendations of other things that I've been doing?
	Well, for one, if you're interested in doing your you have a platform of how many?
	1.4 million?
	There's your bread and butter right there.
	Do some, do some.
	How many of the followers did you buy?
	I didn't buy any of my followers.
	Good organic followers I've been calling since I was 10 years old.
	So if you've got an organic platform on Instagram of 1.1 million followers and you can't think of something to do that's not sex work.
	Well I also do that as well.
	Would you like with business and stuff?
	I could tell you a million things you could do to promote business.
	You have a million followers.
	You could pre-sell your stuff and that's people pre-buying your stuff.
	And then you can do that.
	But you're just asking.
	But you still have to pay to get something if you want to pre-order something.
	So where do you get the money to get it made?
	Because you can take pre-orders or you can also go along line.
	I've owned a couple businesses myself.
	When it comes to getting your sourcing, obviously you need to have a dollar amount.
	Hey, and well met.
	Lol Paladin is donated to $200.02.
	She's just here to advertise for more simps to her off.
	I think she was lying about gay ma'am to not scare away some's.
	She isn't interested in relationships.
	Too bad I can't afford the coin for the kick.
	Yo, Lol Paladins, good to see you, man.
	Wait, really quick, God-fearing, what's your favorite Bible verse?
	I don't know.
	When's the last time you went to church?
	A few months ago.
	Which church was it?
	It was a church in the woodlands.
	Which denomination?
	Methodist.
	Non-Methodist.
	Okay.
	I think it's all cap, honestly.
	I think it's just like when's the last time you prayed?
	Every day.
	Every day.
	Yeah.
	I'm pretty sure it's all cap, but okay.
	So let's just move on.
	I have one question, though.
	You say that you're.
	Listen, I'm not here to pile on, but I'm just confused about one thing you said that you are a Christian kink.
	So you mentioned, like, the first guy you mentioned that you wanted your ideal is Andrew Tate.
	Andrew Tate is Muslim.
	And he's already got, I don't know how many wives, you know.
	I mean, how does that work?
	Like, you would have to convert to Islam to.
	I don't think Andrew Tate's worried about just having Muslim wives.
	I think Andrew Tate's got a really good idea.
	I'm not worried about that.
	Yeah, I'm not worried about him.
	I'm just saying that if she's as convicted as meaning Andrew Tate specifically not all the things about him.
	There's just like a few qualities.
	Like people get the whole image of a very manly man.
	I mean, let me give a way better example.
	Joe Rogan, somebody who's open-minded, very, let's say, conservative, but also socially liberal.
	Yeah.
	A socially liberal person.
	That's how I see myself.
	Is Joe Rogan conservative?
	No, he's not.
	I think he's not.
	I don't think Charlie is a person.
	Let's say if anything, Joe Rogan would be a liberal.
	He's liberal.
	Yeah, he's pretty.
	No, he's not.
	That's what I'm saying.
	What's that?
	Maybe a Tony Hinchcliffe.
	He's gay, isn't he?
	No.
	He's like a tight.
	Is he by, he said?
	Wait, what do you mean when you say socially liberal?
	Was that the word you used?
	Socially liberal.
	How are you socially liberal?
	Well, I have an OnlyFans.
	Sure.
	Besides that, though.
	That's pretty liberal.
	Pro-choice?
	No, I'm not pro-choice.
	Okay.
	You're fine with like the kids getting the killer of cereal donated $200.
	Can't turn a garden hoe into a house tool.
	No Christian says God doesn't judge.
	Put that slogan on your lingerie and breed a new generation of degenerate feminist boss fapes who also like to show pee.
	Definitely not a feminist.
	Conservative, but.
	I'm fiscally conservative.
	Oh, okay.
	Not.
	All right.
	Let's keep things moving, though.
	Going back to the question, what do you actually want?
	What are you looking for?
	What do I want?
	I want to find someone who matches the same values as me.
	And like she said, the same humor, which you asked her what her humor is.
	Mine is, I want to be able to be with somebody where I don't have to really think before I talk all the time.
	I could just feel what's on my mind and they'd understand it or at least like it would start a funny conversation.
	and that's kind of what I'm looking for.
	Sure.
	Someone I'm attracted to, someone...
	I write a love ideal list every few months, so I'm always changing it due to me changing, and I kind of go off of that when I look at anybody.
	What about you?
	Honestly, my brain's mush right now from listening to all that.
	I'm definitely more traditional.
	So ideally, obviously I have children and that opens up a different form of baggage.
	And not every single man will be okay with it.
	And that's fine.
	Everybody has their preferences.
	But I would love a man that could take care of me.
	What do you mean by that?
	I'm okay with being in a traditional role.
	I own a business.
	I can financially take care of myself.
	I love what I do within my business.
	But if I met a man that was able to financially provide and wanted me to stay home.
	Sorry, I did not mean to press that.
	Go ahead.
	And wanted me to stay home and take on the traditional role.
	I would not have a problem with that.
	If I met a man that was okay with me working, then I would be okay with that too.
	Okay.
	Me?
	What do you want?
	What are you looking for?
	A man who is safe.
	Safe, okay.
	And as in, you know, a leader role with morals doesn't, like you were saying, someone you can go to and you can have a conversation and have to worry about, you know, there being a response that could, you know, having safe conversations is really important for a relationship, in my opinion.
	So, and then someone who is successful and smart and doesn't make me feel like I have to be a masculine woman.
	You said successful.
	How successful?
	Successful as in, I mean, number-wise, I don't not somebody who is living, you know, paycheck to paycheck, meaning that they are able to support.
	If I were to date, I'm not dating to just go date around.
	That's a huge reason why I haven't gone on dates.
	I don't have any interest.
	I would date to marry.
	Now, I'm not exactly putting myself out there besides right now on the whatever podcast.
	But I have a son.
	You don't have, well, in my case, I didn't have a baby with someone to not build a future with them.
	It's really disheartening on my own end, not having a traditional family because it was something that was really important to me.
	So now we're working with what we got.
	So just making sure that, for one, they like children.
	But also, I would like to, I would like to work, but not work as I think it's important for a mother to take care of her children.
	Do I know if I'm going to have more children in the future?
	I have no idea.
	Don't know.
	Did you say you're a hairstylist?
	So I moved to California for hair, reached the goals with that, and I actually, no, I actually work in the cosmetic medical field now.
	Okay, you used to do hair, though.
	I think I saw that on your Instagram.
	Yes, and I did some cool stuff.
	I don't know how you would have said, oh, unless you scrolled like old photos.
	Yep.
	I had goals, wrote a senior paper, wanted to move to California and moved here, hit my goals within 70.
	Sure.
	Cool stuff.
	That was that.
	So what do you want?
	What are you looking for?
	For me, the most important is a God-fearing man because I think everything else encompasses with that.
	Because if he fears the Lord, he submits to the Lord.
	If he fears the Lord, he wants a traditional relationship.
	He wants to be provider, protector, he wants to lead.
	I don't really so, even though I believe in like traditional gender roles where the man provides, I believe that the woman should live within his means.
	And if she wants something more, like her nails done, her hair done, or a fancy vacation, then as long as she's still doing her wifely duties, she can, if he's okay with it, go out and earn some money for the family for their vacation, for her hair, for her nails, and all that.
	I don't think men are supposed to provide those things.
	They're supposed to provide a house over your head and food on the table.
	Sure.
	Well, you're in a relationship, but what do you want?
	What are you looking for?
	Well, I dated, my multi-dated before I landed on the guy who I absolutely love.
	And the thing that I love about him is that he's marriage-minded.
	He's a natural leader.
	He is funny.
	He lives a healthy lifestyle.
	I had to write this stuff down.
	Someone who always wants to grow and improve.
	That keeps things interesting and spicy, I think.
	Financially secure is very important to me.
	And provides the structure for me to be in the fullness of what it means to be feminine.
	So, yeah.
	So he builds the frame.
	That's what I call masculinity.
	Masculinity is the house is the frame.
	And then the femininity is what goes inside.
	Once you got the drywall, the plumbing, the lighting, she fills it in with the beauty and softness.
	Yes.
	Yes, in the paintings.
	Exactly.
	I think you put that really well.
	Thank you.
	I just want to be whatever is right for my husband and I to grow and have a successful marriage and raise kids and whatever that looks like for him.
	Jake, what about you?
	What do you want?
	What are you looking for?
	God-fearing is number one.
	Then I'd say cute, attractive, and then humble, modest.
	Genuine burning desire to be a mother and to be a wife over everything would be very important.
	And good habits as well.
	There's lots of red flags in terms of habits, and you gotta watch out for the mailing.
	I'll try to answer the question briefly.
	I have my whole list here written up.
	But let's see, natural body supremacist, obviously care about hygiene grooming, but a strong preference for no plastic surgery, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo, no, no labia plasty, very important.
	Minimal or no makeup.
	Yeah, on the plastic surgery front, like I'll take, I'd prefer small boobs, no boobs over massive fake titties, a little belly fat over lipo belly, small ass or no ass over BBL, small upper lip over lip fillers.
	You could basically take any woman who's had any of these procedures, however they were before.
	I would have preferred them as they were.
	Let's see what else.
	We talked about tattoos.
	She has to have done at least three years of cello.
	Just kidding.
	Let's see.
	Personality-wise, let's see.
	Willingness to travel because I'm trying to bring a girl to Hawaii.
	You know, what's up?
	Let's see.
	I'm trying to move to Hawaii, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Eventually, we'll see.
	Personality, moderate preference for introverted women, quiet calm, soft-spoken, slightly endearingly awkward, a little bit shy, a little bit nerdy.
	Let's see, modesty is huge.
	I don't like big egos, super vain, diva shit.
	Brings me peace, doesn't quarrel, doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't go to bars or clubs, low body count.
	No current or past promiscuity, undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	I know some of you had a quarrel with that, so we'll get into that.
	Immediately, let's see.
	A girl who helps me in my mission, a girl who's attentive, back scratches, massages, that sort of shit.
	Supports me in my mission.
	That's pretty much it.
	I love that.
	You love?
	No, not like everything on there.
	Like, I don't agree with everything on there.
	I'm just saying, like, that's what I do.
	I love ideal.
	Like, you're going to find somebody one day that checks all those boxes, and you'll know that's the one.
	You'll get naked.
	No, like, seriously, like, you're going to find someone to check those boxes, and you're not going to settle once that's written on paper.
	Like, most likely, you're going to just be like walking and looking for someone.
	But I don't think any of that was unreasonable, though.
	Yeah, that's all pretty simple shit.
	Yeah, it's pretty basic.
	I just mean like writing, like, something about knowing what you want rather than like, I'm just going to blindly walk through the streets and then look if I catch this person's eye based on their looks.
	I think that that's like something admirable to like have it a love ideal.
	It's kind of what I do.
	Word.
	I saw you maybe shaking your head at some of those things, possibly.
	No, no.
	Oh, okay.
	Maybe I was wrong then.
	That was great.
	Yeah, I mean, it's really simple though.
	I know I listed like a million different things, but they're all kind of sort of similar insofar as bring me peace, be pleasant, don't be a headache.
	Super simple.
	You don't need to be like insanely funny or charismatic or any of this shit.
	Don't care about your academic or academic, educational, or career achievements.
	Don't give a fuck.
	Does not matter one little bit.
	Just be pleasant.
	Bring me peace.
	Don't quarrel.
	Be about on par looks-wise.
	Super simple pretty simple, I'd say.
	And have a giant labia.
	That's it.
	That's all I need.
	Okay.
	Awkward.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Awkward.
	Yo, hashtag big labia matter.
	Yeah.
	Well, y'all have penis size preference.
	I can't have a labia preference.
	Sorry, mom.
	Yeah, ear muffs.
	Ear muffs.
	Y'all want a guy with a certain size penis.
	I want a woman with a certain size labia.
	That's fair, right?
	I really love that wizard sleeve.
	I like the wizard sleeve.
	Oh, my God.
	I prefer it.
	I'm serious about that.
	I like the wizard sleeve.
	You don't.
	Are you a fan, Jake?
	No, I don't like the mate.
	You've not encountered a.
	I have, and I wasn't.
	I don't think women have.
	Hold on.
	Make kitten.
	I don't think women have as much of a preference to penis size as men think that we do.
	I mean, yo, ABCH, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.
	Maybe?
	I mean, like, if we're talking about microscopic, okay, I understand.
	But, like, I don't think most women really like huge gigantic.
	I don't object to that.
	But like, you probably have a bit of a preference.
	There's some crazy chick that's going to get labia plasty the other direction.
	I don't know if you're lagging in the water.
	He won't like that.
	There are actually chicks who do that.
	They just inject it with fillers.
	I don't know if that counts.
	It's got to be natural.
	It's got to be natural.
	So, anyways, where were we?
	Oh, we got a chat here from TechnoTrooper.
	What are some red flags you're willing to overlook without letting them bother you?
	Starting with you.
	These are, like, really hard questions.
	What?
	E-Tenity.
	Like, maybe it has a girl best friend.
	I know that that's a lot of red flags for people, but I think having female friendships is important.
	Wait, red flag you're willing to overlook?
	Like a lot of people say that a guy having a girl best friend is a red flag.
	But you don't, no, but you don't think it's a red flag, so it doesn't really answer the question.
	Well, that's a red flag I would overlook.
	So you think it's a red flag?
	To some people?
	No, do you think it's a red flag?
	No.
	So it's not really a red flag.
	If you don't think it's a red flag, you wouldn't really be overlooking it.
	Yeah.
	But like societally, a lot of women would see it as a red flag.
	Yeah.
	So like it's a red, not a red flag for you, but it's a red flag for most people.
	I think the question is, you view it as a red flag, but you're willing to overlook it.
	I think.
	Can you come back to me maybe?
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	I'm not overlooking things that are red flags.
	It's kind of a dumb question.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I think it's a red flag to have like a very colorful past, but I do too.
	So I would look past it because I think I have that red flag.
	Like, just I feel like I've grown as a person and change, but I would look over that seeing how they are now.
	Okay, what about you?
	I will never overlook red flags again.
	So there's not a negotiation for that.
	What if he's really attractive and super buff?
	I don't care because looks are not really a huge thing for me.
	Super rich, huge pee-pee.
	Don't care.
	Nope.
	All right.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No, I won't look over red flags, but I can give you a yellow flag.
	Stop the cap.
	Okay, yellow flag that you would overlook.
	Okay, guys, you're going to think this is weird.
	But if you, we are in a quiet room and he is chewing popcorn with his mouth open, that is a red flag.
	It's going to give you the ick.
	You don't even understand what.
	Oh, I can't even go in.
	Yep.
	And if he's afraid of spiders, because I need him to be afraid of spiders, can we get some popcorn so that we can just open it?
	He is not a spider taker carer.
	I don't want to know what he's doing with it, but if he does not take care of the spiders, you'd do well, Daddy, in Australia.
	You'd lock him up.
	So I was going to talk to you about that.
	I heard about your joke.
	I know some people.
	What about you?
	I think, like, red flags, maybe that I have, like, I can't have a double standard, right?
	Like, my weight for one.
	I can't be like, oh, well, he's not disciplined.
	He's not fit because I mean, I have my own stuff.
	So, in those things, like you said, you have a colorful past, so you might overlook that.
	So, things, issues that I have, I guess, I wouldn't have a double standard.
	Okay.
	I have a little bit of a different take.
	I think that there's too many, particularly women, who think everything is a red flag.
	Like, oh, he didn't put this toilet seat down.
	Oh, forget it.
	Or, you know, just the kind of nitpicky things that we do to try to disqualify.
	And I've even been guilty of this.
	Like, I wouldn't be in this relationship if I wouldn't have looked at what I thought was a red flag, which actually wasn't.
	It was just this person was showing me who they were.
	You know, first three months, you're on your best behavior.
	You're showing your representative, okay?
	So it's like, and he was just who he was.
	And I was like, wait a minute.
	Is this your representative?
	And you, you know, what?
	And it, but then got to know him and hey, that's legit.
	Yeah.
	So I think that I think a lot of women.
	So you're saying he opened himself up to you early.
	And you have to see all of the kids.
	You got to see all the got to see it.
	It's a tough choice.
	To open up early.
	It's not really something you want to do.
	And often we hold back a lot and we drip feed because if you show a woman everything at once, they'll often be repulsed by that.
	Well, it's not like he was, you know, showing me his eighth-grade diary when we, our first date, but he definitely was more open.
	Yeah, women are definitely attracted to mystery.
	And keep a little bit of that going.
	Yeah, so I mean, it was kind of, you know, when he wasn't like being showing up as his representative, I was like, does it get worse?
	Like, how no, it's like, that's just him.
	So I would have missed out on a great guy if I would have said, no, girl, go.
	Cool.
	Yeah, definitely a past.
	Drug addiction, gambling addiction, felonies.
	Those are all things that I would overlook, or I have overlooked.
	I'd say if they can't cook, we can get them cooking glasses.
	That's one that I overlook.
	That's good.
	We can fix it.
	You too.
	It's okay, Jake.
	I'm a really good friend.
	Yeah, you can.
	You can F-11 it.
	I'll take the spotters.
	Perfect.
	Just do a quick.
	Well, you got to.
	Here, hold on.
	She doesn't have to learn how to cook a kangaroo or anything if she's not.
	It's good protein.
	Great protein, kangaroo.
	Did you refresh?
	Yeah, if they don't kick you in the face before you get to them, though.
	No, no, no.
	Here.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Here, just minimize OBS really quick.
	Are kangaroo like coyotes here?
	Are they like a nuisance?
	They are.
	Yeah, there's people whose dogs to kill kangaroos.
	I used to work in a winery.
	He'd stop coming quickly.
	It was his full-time job to kill kangaroos.
	Entry studio.
	He'd drive around the winery.
	And then he'd give us all this kangaroo meat.
	I thought they were really broke and young.
	And I was like, yes.
	So they are in overpopulation now.
	You shouldn't make a dog food.
	Okay, started.
	With kangaroo meat.
	For some reason, I wasn't low thank you.
	There is a dog food with kangaroo on it.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Unhide it in sources, please.
	No, it's a very good meat.
	Good protein.
	Crocodile meat as well.
	You can eat crocodile meat, crocodile steaks.
	I've heard about that.
	Pelagic says she has one big insecurity.
	I'm not sure.
	Oh, this is probably directed at you.
	Do you want to respond to Pelagic?
	He says you're one big insecurity.
	That's rude.
	That's it?
	That's all you got?
	I don't.
	I'm not.
	Okay, Pelagic, you're rude.
	All right.
	And then these came through.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Let's see.
	We got a lot to get through, so I'm going to try to do a quick while we just go here.
	Stiffler.
	Go again really quick to answer your question.
	Just saying I love you too soon.
	That's like a red flag I would overlook.
	Oh, man.
	How soon did you say I love you to your most recent ex or whatever?
	I think we were like a month in, and I think that's pretty soon.
	But like, I was being honest.
	So you were a red flag then?
	Yeah, that's what you were saying.
	It's something that you think is a red flag, but you know how like Lindsay said she has colourful pastures.
	She's someone else.
	She wouldn't really look at someone.
	Yeah.
	That's what she's saying.
	Who said I love you first?
	I think me.
	I put Frank Sinatra's I Love You in a playlist for him.
	Oh.
	Something stupid.
	That song?
	Was it something stupid?
	That song?
	Yes, it was.
	I agree.
	I think that was a good idea.
	Can I just have a ramp for a second, though?
	Why is it that young people, like you guys can't just say what you got to say?
	Like, why does it have to be, you know, like tea leaves or songs like in code or Snapchat things that disappear?
	Like, why is it so hard for you guys just to say what you want to say?
	What are you afraid of?
	Wait, she did, though.
	Didn't she?
	Yeah.
	No, she just gave him a song.
	When he sent it to me, he was like, Does this mean you love me?
	And I was like, Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So you like beat around the bush, kind of, with it.
	I thought it was like flirty.
	I thought it was cute.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't think that's all young people either.
	I think when you're young too, though, you know, love is different in all different stages in the way that you express it.
	And just, you know, would I do that now in my age?
	No, but I don't know what I would have done when I was 20.
	Can I have you read this one?
	Go ahead.
	Get some, get some, stay hydrated, stay alive, keep life in perspective, live within your means, create something new, strive for selfless devotion, progress, not perfection to hearts and minds.
	Night.
	Yo, Kill of Cereal, really appreciate the message.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Actually, while thank you for reminding me, most embarrassing dating story.
	That's what you asked originally.
	We're now finally getting to it.
	I hope you have a good night, Kill of Cereal.
	Appreciate your support.
	Going around the table, really quick, if you can, most embarrassing dating story.
	Go ahead.
	Mine was what you mentioned earlier: that he had another girlfriend the whole time.
	And I thought that was pretty embarrassing because we went to the same school and I didn't know that he had the same girlfriend.
	What about you?
	I don't have anything embarrassing, but I have tragic things like stuff being stolen from my house and somebody beat my dog.
	Yeah, that's not really embarrassing.
	Okay, what about you?
	I've answered it.
	Do you want me to answer again?
	Yes.
	The same story of the girl was horrible and I had to go to the bathroom and lie and drop her off at home because it was unbearable and it was a silent car ride.
	They don't have any embarrassing lens.
	I don't really have any embarrassing lens.
	Can you tilt your mic down a little bit?
	Yeah, I can't think of any.
	Okay.
	EJ, 19, maybe 18 years old.
	He gave me a joint.
	And it was the first joint I'd ever had.
	It was illegal at the time, obviously, because this was in the 90s.
	And we grew up watching all of those like don't do drugs, like the skillet that you crack the egg on it.
	This is your brain on drugs.
	And so we're on the date.
	He gave it to me.
	I had a couple puffs.
	And I got so paranoid, I thought my brain would turn into a scrambled egg.
	And so we were in Long Beach, and I was running across the bridge trying to get the weed out of my system so I could be normal again.
	And he was running after me, going, Wait, wait.
	So yeah, that was probably the most embarrassing.
	What about you?
	Okay, so like when me and my husband, we had taken a break and then when we were not doing date, we were dating at the time.
	And then we got back together and my best friend kept asking like when we were gonna finally, you know, do the deed.
	And anyways, when it finally happened, I sent like a long detailed text to her the next day and realized that I accidentally sent it to his sister.
	It was very embarrassing.
	Oh.
	Oh, God.
	And can you tell us the content of the text message?
	Yeah, I was like, oh, we finally, you know, did it, and it was really, really great.
	But then this embarrassing thing happened, but he was really cool about it.
	And I. Qeef?
	Was it a queef?
	No.
	That's always embarrassing.
	Did you get your period?
	This is so awkward.
	This is embarrassing.
	No, it brought about, you know, cycle.
	And so, yeah, it was just really awkward for the that was awkward, but telling a sister meaning to text, yeah, it's bad.
	Okay, is period sex awkward?
	It wasn't, though.
	It didn't.
	Like, it was the first time we had hooked up in a really long time, and I wasn't expecting that.
	So, yeah, it was awkward.
	And it is absolutely awkward to have period sex.
	Disagree.
	Disagree.
	Yeah.
	Uh-huh.
	All right.
	Tell that to somebody who has fibroids.
	Husband, I'm sorry.
	Never mind.
	No, I didn't hear you.
	Is there another topic we can talk about?
	Yeah, you wanted the embarrassing story.
	Yeah.
	So, let's see.
	Okay, so we're going to go to Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
	You can't pick 7.
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	6.
	Okay.
	9.87.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Troll answer, but okay.
	After hearing what you had to say, I have to change my answer to.
	What did you say last time?
	I said a nine because I'm confident and I'm still working on myself.
	That's why I don't think I'm a 10, but I'm going to switch it to eight.
	Like, not that I got lower or lower confidence since last time, but I can never stop improving.
	So.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I'm going to say eight.
	Okay.
	6.5.
	Is five supposed to be the middle?
	So using this scale, five would be average.
	Totally.
	Five would be average, then two.
	Okay.
	I'm going to say a five.
	I'm just your average 51-year-old black girl.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Yeah, this is a hard question, being pregnant and stuff, but I would say probably like 5.5.
	I think you're higher than that, girl.
	You're given life.
	6.
	I give myself a 5.
	Okay, so you gave yourself a 9.87.
	Stiffler has a follow-up question.
	Total face, body.
	So break it down, total face, body.
	So 9.87 total.
	What do you do for face?
	What do you do for body?
	I have to add those up to equal that.
	I don't know.
	No, just maybe you say my face is a 9, my body's a 10, something.
	I don't know.
	My face is a 9.
	I think my body's a 10.
	What was the other?
	That's it.
	All right, going around the table once more.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you?
	I'll be 30, so no.
	Okay.
	You're 28?
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 38?
	Yes, because I really put a lot of emphasis on my health.
	Okay.
	What about 20 years' time?
	Yes.
	So 48, better looking?
	48, yeah.
	30 years' time, better looking at 58?
	Yeah.
	Than you are now at 28?
	Okay, 40 years' time, better looking at 68?
	No, but I think like going back, I'd probably be like equal to what I am now.
	At 68?
	At 68, you'll be better than that.
	No, at 58.
	I think 68, I'll probably start getting some wrinkles.
	At 68, you'll start getting some wrinkles.
	Yeah.
	So, but 38, equal or better looking?
	I think I'll always be equal, if not better, because of everything I do for my health.
	Which is what?
	I do a lot of biohacking, like red light therapy.
	I exercise a lot.
	I eat a perfect diet.
	I don't eat any seed oils.
	Okay, and are you better looking now at 28 than when you were at 18?
	100%.
	100%.
	Okay.
	So equal looking, 28 compared to 38, 48, 58.
	Okay, so in 30 years time, just as good looking.
	Yeah.
	You won't have any wrinkles.
	Probably very few.
	Very few wrinkles at 58.
	Yeah.
	Generally speaking, when do you think women are most attractive?
	Whenever they feel like they're most attractive.
	But generally speaking, on a global sense, when we're thinking about how the world thinks about it, not how they feel.
	Younger.
	Yeah.
	So when you're talking about it, are you talking about it in the way that the world sees it or the way that you subjectively see it?
	Well, it's hard to say because when I was 18, I didn't, I was, by the world standards, not as attractive as I am now.
	But you can be aware of that though, right?
	You can say that you're more attractive now.
	I haven't seen you at 18.
	Maybe you were fat when you were 18 or something like that.
	But when you're saying that you're going to be as attractive in 30 years, are you saying that from the way that the world sees you or the way that you see you?
	I'm saying that from the way the world sees me.
	You genuinely think that you as a 58-year-old woman will be as attractive as you are as a 28-year-old woman.
	Yeah, I think the same number of guys will still want me.
	I think I'll be as desired.
	I think that that kind of makes a lot of sense to me when you say that because the whole delaying or like not wanting to have a family or wanting to put career first and wanting to sort of ride this wave of the lingerie stuff that you've got going on, it makes total sense when you think about it in the sense that you think you're going to be still hot in 30 years.
	The fact of the matter is that nobody's really hot at 58.
	And as a woman ages, you need to age gracefully because if you're 58 trying to hold on to being hot, you're going to be very, very unhappy.
	But if you're 58 and you've got a family and you get your value through being a mother and through these sorts of things, then you can actually maintain a lot of value and dignity in these things.
	But if you're trying to be hot and that's your number one goal, I'll have a company.
	I'll be running the company.
	I'll hire models.
	And I hope that I do have that for myself.
	I hope I have it all.
	Loving husband, family, business.
	I hope for you too.
	For sure.
	Let's see here.
	So, one sec, guys.
	Oh, what about you?
	Better looking in 10 years' time?
	I think I'm going to peak in like five years and then I five, ten years, so like 30.
	And then, like you kind of just said, I think I won't, I hopefully won't care as much.
	Like, I still want to put effort into like maintaining health and all of that, but less worry about like dressing like you know, I feel like I dress like a normal 20-year-old.
	So, what was the answer?
	You'd think you'll be I think I'll peak in like five, ten years.
	Sure, sure.
	I'm definitely in better shape now than I was 10 years ago, so in my 20s.
	I think in my 40s, I hope that I will still be in good shape and I'm good at taking care of my body.
	And then after that, it's just the natural progression of things.
	Stuff is going to be loose, and I'm going to have wrinkles, and that's okay.
	Just a part of growing and maturing.
	I mean, youth is beautiful, but so are all the stages.
	I think I was definitely at my peak at 28, right?
	Or 28, I just aged myself, at 26, and at 36.
	I mean, I think at 46 I will be better than 36 just because I'm hard on myself with, you know, I'm working on just a lot of people.
	Do you think you'll be trying to maintain that or trying to be better?
	A little bit of both.
	So maintain.
	It's quite a bar to set yourself to be more attractive when you're 46.
	I think it's like, not that I'm not sitting here and saying, oh my god, I hate my body, but I am doing a little bit different, you know, with how I'm taking care of my body and what I put into it.
	Make America healthy again.
	Honestly, and I was pregnant and I had a child.
	That was, you know, that was a huge, huge, huge transition.
	And so I, well, you guys haven't seen my mom, so she's beautiful.
	I'm very blessed.
	So I do look a lot like her.
	And I just, I'm not trying to maintain in a pressuring standpoint.
	It's more so just like my personal goals within myself.
	But if I were to look at a whole figure, you know, how does everyone else see me?
	Well, of course, the youth is the younger you are, the more attractive you are, period.
	Doesn't matter what you get done.
	So on that end, going all the way up, obviously.
	Even for guys as well.
	I mean, you look at like a young Johnny Depp, you know?
	Oh, I disagree.
	I think that man.
	Aging matters.
	Don't you think, like, physically, just in terms of like the aesthetic attractiveness, don't you think that guys tend to not, like maybe in their 30s they can be really good looking, but in their 40s and 50s, you think they get better looking?
	Depending on the person, George Clooney, okay, I'm not attracted to men of his age, but if I were to take younger George Clooney and George Clooney now, he is far more attractive in my eyes now than he is.
	He's an anomaly though.
	And do you think generally guys tend to let themselves go a little bit as they get older?
	They can't hold muscle mass as well.
	Yeah.
	Their face gets a little bit more wrinkly.
	But I think age looks well on men, though, even if they have some wrinkles and like facial hair, gray hair.
	You know, ask me when I was younger.
	Sure.
	You know, of course, like I would think that way, but I don't enjoy it.
	Not so much for women?
	Well, no, that's what I'm saying.
	I'm giving you my opinion on me and where I'm at right now.
	Of course, when I was like 18, I was a little more youthful.
	I'm going to go to the bathrooms here a little bit.
	Go for it.
	So going to you really quick, Brenna, right?
	Yes.
	Do you have another OF that goes something along?
	Can you show me your tattoo on your arm here?
	Huh.
	Do you have another OF, something Brinkly?
	Have you gone by that name?
	That was, it used to be the name of the one we already discussed.
	I just changed the name.
	You've never done any boy girl content?
	No.
	Well, somebody just sent me a video of you doing precisely that boy girl content.
	So are you going to continue lying or are you just going to fess up that you're pretty much just lying about everything?
	No, I'm not lying.
	I've never done boy girl content.
	There's literally a video of you.
	Do I need to like play it?
	It's not my video.
	Can't.
	I mean, it's matching tattoo.
	No.
	Never filmed videos like that.
	It's literally your, you just admitted that it was your OnlyFans tag.
	Yes, but I've never filmed boy girl content.
	Is this some loophole like the guy filmed it?
	No, I've never done that.
	So you're just going to continue lying even though I have.
	Was it girl girl?
	No, I've never done that.
	Tell me what he.
	I can't have fucking maddie.
	I'm mad.
	That's what I'm saying.
	She just turned around.
	Is this her?
	You see the tattoo.
	The tattoo looks Tim Law.
	There's nothing happening yet, by the way, because it's late now.
	Do you see the face?
	This is so awkward.
	I think it's a good time to go get up and go to the bathroom.
	Water.
	okay yeah that's enough yeah well it's actually a little bit hard to tell You could kind of see your face and what was about to happen.
	Oh, something was about to happen.
	Yeah.
	It was really, really about that.
	No, I've never filmed boy girl content.
	I'm not a porn star.
	Did it go longer and you just didn't watch it?
	Yeah, I didn't see the rest, but I'll take Bronze word for it.
	I mean, this is fucking you, bro.
	Like, I don't know why you're lying about it.
	I'm not lying.
	I've never had a sex tape.
	Could it have been someone like screen recording it and like I don't have anything like that?
	Okay, bro.
	I mean, it's just like, why are you fucking lying about it?
	It's kind of annoying.
	I'm not lying.
	Okay, so the video depicts you giving fellatio, I think is the term, to a male.
	You've never had a video of you doing that?
	No.
	Do you want to just stop fucking gaslighting and just admit it?
	No, I've never filmed a video like that.
	Then how does this video exist?
	I'm not sure.
	All right.
	Well.
	This guy, he gave me a thumbs up.
	He says it's you.
	I mean, I don't know what else to say.
	Show us your tattoo again.
	Yeah, that's you.
	All right, you're a fucking liar.
	Okay, well.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Whatever, Brian.
	Why don't you just fucking admit it?
	Like, it's so fucking weird when girls come on and do this shit, but whatever.
	I didn't do that.
	All right, I'm just not gonna even engage.
	I'm not even gonna engage with this.
	So where did we leave off?
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	This way.
	Well, I didn't hear the answer, so.
	I think in my 40s, yes.
	So you're 36, you'll be better looking at 46?
	Yes.
	Better looking at 56, 20 years' time.
	And then you're 36, were you better looking at 26?
	No.
	So better looking now at 36 than you were at 26?
	Yes.
	Okay, and then going to you, you're also 36, better looking in 10 years' time?
	Youthful is better.
	Youthful is better.
	But for me, yes, I think that at this point in time at 46, I will look better to what I want to look at.
	So you'll look better at 46?
	But not to society.
	Younger would always be better.
	20 years' time?
	Better, better, younger.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	20 years' time, will you be better looking at 56?
	At 46.
	56.
	56.
	20 years time.
	Okay, and were you better looking at 26 than you are now at 50?
	At 36, excuse me.
	Oh my goodness.
	Yeah, no.
	So you're better looking now?
	No, I'm better looking at 26.
	You were better looking at 26.
	Okay, than you?
	I think you're typically better looking when you're younger.
	I think I was better looking when I was 26, but I have been on a weight loss journey, so I think by 46, I'll probably look better than I am right now.
	Assuming that you, let's just say you had a perfect body fat percentage your entire life, would you be better looking?
	We'll go to you.
	You're 34, better looking in 10 years' time at 44?
	No.
	And then you're 34, were you better looking at 24 than you are now at 34?
	Probably some days.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Some delusion here, I guess.
	Regarding the ratings, the delusion?
	I don't really recall the ratings.
	I don't think it was too delusional on the ratings, but the whole better looking as you get older, pretty delusional.
	Oh, no, I meant that.
	Yeah.
	The only thing I know that if you're just looking at looks, but I think whenever I see women, especially moms, and I just think that there's beauty in that after they've had, you know, kids and the more kids that they have, it's just something, there is something beautiful about that.
	But I do agree with the physical part of it.
	I'd say it's more value, the word you're looking for.
	The value of woman, wisdom, and you know, fulfilling maternal duties and all that sort of thing makes it's very attractive.
	Yeah, but like physically to the rest of the world, I mean, every that I've had, I've yeah, yeah, yeah, physical attractive is very different to the value.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's just kind of interesting that people don't realize how aging works, but I don't know.
	Why can't people just be like, yeah, people are typically better looking when they're younger?
	Who said that?
	Who said that you don't or that you're not better looking when you're younger?
	Several females here at the panel said that they were in their prime now in their mid-30s and then they said they would be even better looking in their 40s.
	Okay.
	I don't think I'm in my prime now.
	I just think that my personal goals that I have is going to flourish me when I am 46 versus how I feel right now in my personal goals are what?
	My personal goals within like my fitness or my body as an individual.
	But society speaking, I'm not, if we were to go on that end, youthful is more attractive, and I know that.
	So, I mean, I do have two different answers because I can't speak for society.
	I can only speak for myself on that end.
	So if I'm going to rate myself, that's how that's what it is.
	I mean, I guess that's also kind of the reason why I said what I said.
	I was a mom, a very young mom.
	My kids are a little bit older.
	So at 26, I was very tired, overweight, had a toddler and a baby.
	Didn't have time to go to the gym, take care of myself, all that stuff.
	So I do feel physically better now that my kids are older and I have the ability to get through all of those things that I need for myself to take care of myself.
	I was, but I was like using hard drugs when I was in my early 20s.
	And I still can look back and see.
	I mean, I feel like I've probably gone wrinkles just sitting at this table.
	Like, I can still look back and see that, you know, even then, at least for male attention, you know, there's something just with youth that guys equate to beauty more than anything.
	At 26, I was fantastic.
	I was doing just fine.
	I said five years later, but I'm also 20.
	So, I mean, I'm working on my health.
	I would say mid-20s is prime.
	Yeah.
	Stats say that it's between 20 and 24 is when a woman is most physically attractive.
	So the studies say in terms of what guys find most attractive.
	That's fair.
	Physically.
	Well, let me change the question a little bit.
	Do you think that the average 35-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman?
	No.
	Going around the table.
	No.
	No.
	It depends on the race.
	You're too far from the mic.
	Sorry.
	It depends on the race.
	There's reverse aging people.
	I'd like to meet them.
	Because, no, it's not that it's reverse aging.
	It's just that the darker skin you have, you age more slowly.
	Do you age still?
	Yes, you do, but you age more slowly in comparison.
	More old in 10 years?
	That's not what the question was.
	Yeah, it's attractiveness.
	And age generally tends to equate to attractiveness.
	Yes, but if you compare a 25-year-old white girl and a 35-year-old black woman, if we address the same person, though.
	Yeah, it's just based on one person.
	Oh, it's based on one person.
	Oh, I thought you were just talking about the average, the average person.
	Austin, can you close the doors?
	That's what I asked.
	Even if you had to sort of equal it out between all the races, on average, do you think that they would be?
	No, I think that there is a difference.
	I do.
	Do you think that the average 25-year-old black girl is more attractive than the average 35-year-old black girl?
	No, I would say it was pretty much the same.
	And you could test me on it.
	It's just the way it is.
	I'm 51.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, you look good for 51.
	What's the point about you being 51?
	I don't know.
	You look amazing, but you're saying you didn't look better at 25?
	No, I'm not saying, we're not talking about me.
	I don't think that I look better when I was 25.
	But what I'm saying is that it depends on your skin.
	It depends on your phenotype.
	The darker skin you have, the slow.
	And you can look.
	But is there a race that reverse ages, though?
	Because we're talking about being more attractive when you're 35 than you were when you're 25.
	No, I'm saying that it'd be on par.
	I'm saying that a 25-year-old and a 35-year-old with darker skin would be on par.
	I actually sent Brian a picture of me 12 years ago.
	And you could see how I looked 12 years ago.
	And it's not that different.
	When you see that difference, you should have a little bit of a picture.
	Well, let him go.
	Can you see it?
	Can you pull it up, Austin?
	The picture.
	Granted, I think I took a look at the photo.
	It's a little, looks a little touched up, but that was me when I was like 30-something.
	I would say I look better now, actually.
	Erroneous!
	Erroneous!
	Wow!
	I mean, that's what I'm saying.
	I'm not sure what that's true.
	Yeah.
	You look better there.
	I think that's better there.
	No.
	We don't have to.
	Well, okay, she can still look pretty now, but I mean, we're doing a comparison here.
	She looks good for 51.
	Very good for 51.
	Yes.
	But there.
	You're stunning, but different.
	Come on.
	Yeah, I don't, like I said, what I say still stands.
	Science backs it up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here finally.
	So let's see here.
	Where do we begin?
	Why don't we go back to Eva?
	Did I say it right?
	Ava, Eva.
	You can say whatever you want.
	People call me old.
	Okay.
	We talked about this last show with different pronunciations.
	It gets people in trouble.
	Let's see.
	You're a virgin.
	And you said you find it pretty uncomfortable when the man has a high body count, so I avoid dating people like that.
	I'm a little confused.
	You said, like, are you waiting for marriage?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you will not, even if it's like the guy, you're like, I know I'm going to marry this guy, you'll still wait until you're married to have sex?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you are waiting until marriage, just to be clear.
	Yo, Kai, thank you for the gift of 20 subs.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you, man.
	Okay.
	And was this an issue in your previous relationship?
	Like, was he wanting to have sex?
	No.
	Okay, he was on board with it.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	You said you date to marry.
	You prefer more traditional relationship.
	You'd like your husband to be a provider if you're going to have children with him.
	You intend on pursuing a career, but I don't want it to be necessary.
	You said you wanted to be an attorney, correct?
	Okay, corporate attorney was that, right?
	You just prefer for it to be beneficial, as in I would not like for the household income to depend on me, but I wouldn't mind adding to it.
	I think that social media has exacerbated an issue within the dating world.
	I will not go on a date.
	If a man does not give me enough notice, asking the night before or day of is an immediate no.
	Okay, no quarrels with that part.
	Let's go into the you prefer more traditional relationships, you want your husband to be a provider.
	If your husband had the means, and so let's say he was a hirerner and he said, Well, I don't want you to work, would you go along with that?
	Yeah, I think so.
	If I thought that my kids could go through college and get cars and yeah, let's assume they could, yeah, then no, 100%.
	Okay, so even though you do have some career aspirations, if your husband was capable of providing to a degree where you could stay home, you'd be fine with that.
	Okay, I don't think there's any quarrels there.
	Maybe the only quarrel, I don't know if it's even that big of a concern for me, although Andrew would probably like it.
	Do you consider yourself traditional in all regards?
	Like, are you conservative?
	Didn't she say she was running for Camela?
	Camela?
	I'm a Republican, but I am voting for Commonwealth because I don't like Trump.
	What?
	You could just not vote.
	Yeah, please.
	You said you do political science.
	What is your political persuasion, would you say?
	What do you mean?
	I just said that I was a Republican.
	Or what do you mean?
	Why don't you like Trump?
	Because I think he's a threat to our democracy.
	How?
	Because he tried to overthrow the government.
	How did he try and do that?
	By storming the Capitol?
	That's not a normal position.
	Is MSNBC your favorite news outlet?
	Did Trump storm the Capitol himself?
	He encouraged his followers to tweeting it.
	When did he tweet to Storm the Capitol?
	He tweeted it.
	Can you quote it exactly what he said?
	It's a big allegation.
	He said that he did that.
	Well, that would be mainstream media.
	No, I can't.
	He said we're going to go down to the end.
	We're going to be peacefully marching.
	That's what he said.
	And then people get peacefully.
	Wait, why would you vote?
	Like, if you don't like Trump, that's one thing, but why would you vote for a Democrat if you're a Republican?
	Right.
	Because I think she's a good option, and I think she has the potential to improve our country.
	So, just to be clear, it's not that you just don't want to vote for Trump and that you just don't like it.
	Like, you want her in there over Trump, essentially.
	And she's a Democrat, but you're a Republican.
	I think it's possible to not like a particular representative.
	I don't think he's a good representative.
	So, what do you think about the fact that she didn't have to be nominated?
	She just kind of got forced.
	I do think that's an interesting loophole.
	I don't know if that's completely valid.
	It 100% is valid.
	That's the only way she got into office was here she goes.
	No one voted her in.
	Well, but that's how that works when the president steps down, the vice president steps up, and that's this isn't about that.
	This is about the election.
	Wait, let me ask a couple questions.
	And the president is still the president of the United States right now.
	Your position on gun ownership?
	I think people should be able to have guns.
	Okay.
	Your position on abortion?
	I think people should be able to have abortions if they want them.
	Okay, your position on.
	Are you in favor of like Drag queens reading stories to children in school.
	Are trans women women?
	I don't know.
	I think it's trans women women.
	Like a man that did what?
	I think she just doesn't want to get cancelled online, but she's saying that.
	What is a woman?
	Something that's born a woman, I think.
	But without using the word woman, can you give a definition?
	It's biological, has ovaries, uterus.
	Okay, so then would a trans woman, a biological male who transitions to becoming a woman, would that be a woman?
	No.
	Okay.
	What economic model do you prefer, capitalism or communism?
	Capitalism.
	Okay.
	Republican.
	I've never heard I'm a Republican, but I'm voting for.
	I mean, look, I can understand like you have objections to Trump or whatever, but I can understand saying I'm like, I'm not going to vote.
	Yes.
	But he's dropped out now.
	I can understand that.
	Kamala, she's like, she's officially.
	I mean, why just not vote?
	Because I don't want to sacrifice the vote for Trump.
	I don't like Trump.
	Do you live in California, don't you?
	Yeah.
	I mean, she's going to get the popular vote in California anyway.
	I don't know.
	I just don't want to not contribute, isn't it?
	But you want to do a disservice to your own party that you claim you are.
	I think it's a disservice to elect Trump.
	Because of the January 6th.
	She has a right to who she wants to vote for.
	I mean, she's an awesome person.
	Everyone has a right to an answer.
	Why are you guys on it, though?
	What's a discussion on her?
	We live in a free country.
	We live in a free country.
	Look at our world.
	Look at the nation right now.
	Not answering those questions is affecting our world.
	Sure, she's allowed to vote whoever wants.
	We live in America.
	She can do whatever she wants, but we're allowed to – this is a discussion about who she's voting.
	She seems pretty resolute.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I don't think so.
	I think you can be swayed.
	I think you could be swayed.
	I think you've had too much programming from TikTok to me.
	Do you think that Biden, the past four years, did better than Trump?
	Because we already had him.
	And he didn't threaten it.
	I don't think Trump did good at all.
	Compared to Biden.
	Compared to Biden?
	Do you maybe just not know the statistics?
	But Kamala is a very good person.
	And that's okay, but it's better to say that instead of amazing and wonderful.
	Isn't that what she's supposed to do?
	The same way Mike Pence backed up everything Trump did?
	We wouldn't want Mike.
	Mike Pence to be greeted.
	And Kamala.
	Just because I'm a Republican doesn't mean I need to blindly follow everybody in the party.
	There's distinctions that you can make about the vote.
	But at what point?
	I'm not going to vote for somebody who says he's going to grab women by the pussy.
	That's like a profile and all that.
	That's do not have anything to do with being a leader of the country when you are weighing out the facts of the best for the American people.
	I think Katie Hopkins said it best when she said, I'd rather have someone grab me by the pussy than have a pussy for president.
	Literally.
	I would rather have a woman for president than I would never.
	No.
	Why would you rather have a woman for president?
	I'm responding to what you said.
	You said that somebody said they would rather be grabbed by the pussy.
	I would not rather be sexually assaulted than have a female represent the country.
	A pussy for president, like a coward sort of thing.
	Like a bad leader.
	Yeah.
	Like somebody who's not a strong leader is what they're saying.
	Is the contents of the do you think that Kamala Harris is genuinely like a good political strategist and somebody who has the kind of mind and the kind of qualities that could run a country in a competent way?
	I don't know if I know enough about her to say that entirely.
	But do you know what I mean?
	From what you've seen, what are some of the strong points?
	What do you like about her?
	You guys are so putting me on the spot for my personality.
	But you just said you don't want to blindly follow Trump, and it kind of seems like you're blindly following Kamala.
	I tried.
	I'm not blindly following Kamala.
	I've seen things that she said, and I agree with things she says.
	I think, like what?
	Like the abortion thing, but you guys are going to get on my ass about saying that I'm pro-choice.
	Or just give your views on it and just let the conversation flow because you could say, I could say something, or any of us could say something, and you can come right back and say you disagree with it.
	But to make such a strong statement, like I'm a Republican, but I'm voting for Kamala Harris, that is me, me hearing that, I'm like, what?
	Like, that's a big deal when it's somebody who really, really values my politics correctly.
	That's where this entire panel that's talking to you about it is trying to understand your reasoning because that doesn't make sense.
	It doesn't make sense to vote a sexual assaulter into office either.
	Do you reckon that is even if that were true, do you think that that would affect the way he runs the country and leads the country and the way he talks with Russia and the way he talks with China and the way he doesn't get people into wars and the way he treats the border and the economy and the way he treats the education system and taxes?
	Yes.
	You think that it affects all of that?
	Yes.
	Don't you do political science?
	How does it affect that?
	It affects the way he feels about an entire gender.
	If he is sexually assaulting people, then he.
	So what I said was, how does it affect the border?
	How does it affect his relationship with Putin and Xi and Kim Jong-un and economics and education as well?
	That's what it has to do with.
	But it all ties together.
	These are.
	How does that particular thing, the one?
	By the way, that's not a very heinous comment.
	If you hear the way the guys talk when girls aren't around, it's really nothing.
	Unfortunately.
	You don't have to accept that because it's not.
	You don't have to accept it.
	I know that you guys probably wouldn't with your girlfriends.
	You guys say some ratchet shit, by the way.
	I know what you girls get up to behind closed doors.
	You guys say some crazy shit.
	I'm just saying girls in general.
	Maybe you're a perfect little angel who has never said anything bad in your life.
	And if you are, then I'd be very, very proud to be in this room with you right now.
	But me, I'm not.
	And when guys get together, when we're behind closed doors, in boisey situations, shit gets a bit wild.
	And Trump talks about it.
	And it doesn't justify it.
	And I don't want to say, like, do I love what came out of his mouth or what has been said?
	Absolutely not.
	But if I have to put on the table of my future, my son's future, and weighing out the pros and cons between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump being president, take away all of the opinion stuff, take away all of the bad-mouthing stuff, and you don't know their names.
	You 100% would never go for Kamala Harris over Trump with the policies and the better good, or excuse me, greater good for the country when it comes to our border.
	We are the amount of American people that are not able to take care of their own livelihood because of the immigration system.
	And I don't know what words I can say.
	So I'm trying to articulate as best as I can.
	Illegal aliens.
	Illegal aliens.
	There we go.
	Now, do I have a problem with people coming in, you know, coming from other countries?
	No, just do it the right way.
	Same way we all have to do.
	If we want to go out of town, we ought to go get a passport.
	We have to go through the process.
	Same with, you know, I could have come on the Mexican border.
	It would have been easier for me.
	He's a legal alien.
	Well, I'm actually a tourist, technically.
	Oh, well, he's a tourist.
	So, did you have to get a visa to come here?
	I'm just curious.
	I did.
	It's very difficult as well.
	You guys have a very robust immigration system unless you go through this otherwise.
	Yeah, isn't that so weird that when you're trying to do things legally, it takes like seven times.
	I was trying to get citizenship here, but then it would have cost me like 50 grand to do it with lawyers and accountants and setting everything up.
	And you're going to go to free health care if you just walk through.
	Yeah, I think that I'd be a pretty productive citizen, but instead they've got friggin Javier just coming in from there's there's so much more.
	You know, look at and like you were saying about um Robert Kennedy is like he the speech he gave when he was endorsing Trump, I teared up and it was because like he articulated his words so profoundly when it came to talking about what our children are eating, what's going on in our in big pharma, what's going on in our health care systems.
	And for him to for him to endorse Trump, regardless if it was like a no-choice, is huge because he's also going in with such a strong role coming from an incredible belief system.
	We need that.
	We don't have that when it comes to Tim Watson and Kamala Harris.
	And these are just the little factors that are displayed on mainstream media.
	But even if you go deeper into it, take away the opinions, take away from feeling offended personally.
	You weigh out the pros and cons.
	Donald Trump and going with Trump is 1,000% better for you, better for me, better for the entire American people.
	Anyways, I don't think we're going to convince her, but I do – Trump's probably listening, right?
	He might be.
	I do have some little more details about Brenna over here.
	Brenna, just a couple questions.
	Watch anything else.
	Brenna, how tall are you?
	5'7.
	5'7?
	Okay.
	Does the name.
	Did you used to go by Christie?
	No.
	Christy Derek?
	No.
	Okay, so you used to do escorting?
	No.
	The plug beacons.
	No.
	Look, it might not be 100% confirmed here, but the same people who sent me the video, it's your matching tattoo.
	They're also claiming that you were involved in escorting.
	I don't know why somebody would be claiming that.
	In which you were charging $1,800 for a one-hour coffee date, $3,000 for a lunch date, $5,000 for a dinner date, $8,000 for an overnight date, plus $500 trip to the islands, $500 plus for couples.
	Are you also going to deny this, also?
	Yeah.
	So you were not involved in escorting?
	I'm not escorted now.
	What was this on?
	I'm just curious.
	Did someone just text you there, or was it like an on-paper type of thing?
	Yeah, that's just curious.
	They are when people just submit a comment and then you call me a liar about it because somebody on the internet wants to say that.
	I mean, I literally, it's literally a video.
	The first video, the escorting stuff, I'm still not 100% on.
	The video is of you with the eggs.
	You can show us your tattoo again.
	This is not AI generated.
	You've never seen my tattoo.
	Huh?
	Seen my tattoo.
	That's not adding to the situation.
	It's okay.
	You are giving a male fellatio, but you're denying that it's you.
	Claimed that you had not done porn or any boy-girl content.
	So, I mean, that is fair to assume that you're lying.
	It's fair to assume that you're also lying about the escorting.
	This is going to be a stalemate.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to pursue it long.
	I'll post the, I can't do it right now because I don't have Discord on my laptop.
	I'll post all the if you guys want, uh, discord.gg/slash/whatever.
	I'll post the evidence after the show.
	Obviously, we can't show it on stream right now, but um, you're just not even gonna cop.
	Um, well, whatever evidence you're saying there is here, hold on.
	Here's what, okay, here's what I'm gonna do: I'm gonna show you the photo.
	I don't appreciate you threatening to put that on the internet.
	I know I signed a release, so you probably can, but that's false information.
	How is it false here?
	How is it false?
	It's really awful to do to somebody who is starting a business to claim you're gonna put a false escorting ad out there of me.
	Well, I already said that.
	I already said it's dubious.
	Hold on, I was gonna post the other thing which you're lying about.
	Yeah, I'm a young entrepreneur, and that is not fair to post some claim about me like that.
	Well, it's not fair for you to come on the show under false pretenses and make all these claims that are just bogus and false.
	I feel like I'm being very true to myself and very truthful in everything I believe in, and I couldn't be more honest on this show.
	I'm coming here completely open on my thoughts, even though people just explained.
	This is total gaslighting.
	I'm coming here being honest, but you're denying it.
	I'm not trying to gaslight it.
	You're literally denying the truth.
	Why is it to say that somebody in the comments is telling the truth and I'm not?
	There's literally a video.
	My eyes do not deceive me.
	There's a video of you.
	Your tattoos show.
	There's nothing even happening in this video, so I don't know what you're talking about.
	He saw the video.
	You showed it to him, and he said something looked like it was about to happen.
	There was a start of a video.
	It's a girl in a hoodie, a girl with a tattoo like that, and I'm taking Brian's word about what happens next.
	But I'll also take your word.
	I don't really care too much about it.
	I guess we can all just take each other's word.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	Is there face in it in the video?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Faces in the video, tattoos in the face.
	Have you heard of what's called deep fake?
	I have millions of followers across all platforms.
	I wouldn't be surprised if somebody makes false allegations about me, but I'm asking from a person.
	Can you see the picture of the guy?
	Nobody wants to look at the guy.
	No, his face is.
	Do not post that of me on a Discord, though, is what I'm saying, though.
	I thought it's not you.
	No, the escorting thing.
	Don't put that about me on the Discord.
	That's not what I was going to put up.
	Is the guy's face on there?
	I don't know how that's relevant, but no, it's not.
	Okay.
	Well, I was thinking if you could find out if it's a friend or not.
	Sounds pretty obscure.
	So.
	Okay.
	I mean.
	Why do you want me?
	Why do you want that to be true so badly?
	Well, I don't appreciate people coming on the podcast and lying about things.
	I'm not lying about anything.
	I've been very open about everything you've asked me.
	It's got to be a stale night.
	You have to agree to disagree.
	Take your word for it.
	Brian, you can investigate it.
	Anyways, Alvin Sam, ladies, can I have you read it?
	Ladies, if a woman aborts, is the husband morally justified for divorcing her and not paying alimony?
	Emphasis on the alimony.
	Serious answers, please.
	Last year, DeSantis eliminated permanent alimony.
	And do you want me to be the first to answer that?
	Yeah, sure.
	I think if the husband didn't want the abortion, then yeah, 100%.
	Okay, come around the table.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I'm so distracted by the previous conversation.
	What were we saying?
	Okay, Skip.
	What about you?
	1 million percent.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I think he's morally justified.
	Absolutely.
	Mm-hmm.
	Um yeah, I guess I would say yes.
	Alvin Sam, thank you for the Super Chat man, really appreciate it.
	We have Pelagic here, the blame shift, typical truth hurts.
	I believe this is directed towards you.
	I believe so.
	Sounds directed towards me.
	I mean, it kind of just like, honestly, if you just said, I feel like if you had just said, yeah, I used to do BG stuff, but I don't do it anymore or whatever.
	But like the fact that you denied it just invited a bunch of people to be like, no, actually, Brian, she lied to your fucking face, and it just invited people to investigate the false claims.
	I don't do content like that.
	I've been a model.
	I can see why you feel because I think, Brian, I think of the seven shows that I've done, I think we've had three girls who have told like really egregious lies.
	And then we've kind of backtracked and felt sorry for them.
	And one of them was crying and everything.
	We're like, okay, cool, let it go, whatever.
	And then it comes out that they're lying.
	And it's like, no, then we look like the dickheads.
	So it's impossible in this situation because if we don't know 100% the truth, then somebody looks like a dickhead, you know?
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, I'm receiving a substantial amount of evidence from a couple people here.
	So escorting links, I mean, the escorting thing I'm still not 100% on, although it appears fairly certain.
	I'm sure people use my photos on the internet all the time.
	I have millions of photos.
	Yeah, that's why I'm still not 100% on the whole escorting component, which is why I asked you.
	But I mean, to deny the video which exists of you fillating a man where you're tattooed.
	You actually saw this in the video.
	You sat there and watched that.
	Yeah, somebody sent it to me.
	It took me one minute while we were.
	The thing with deepfakes is you can change.
	No, I'm saying the thing with deep fixes, you can only change their face.
	You can add the tattoo.
	Exact same tattoo.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Exactly.
	Only your face.
	So a deep fake wouldn't even make sense for this.
	It would have to be true.
	Yep.
	That's.
	How end?
	Own it and tell the story because I want to know.
	What is it?
	I said, if it happened, just own it and tell the story.
	No, it didn't happen.
	Okay.
	I mean, I don't even know how to really approach like you call someone out for lying and they just won't fess up.
	It's like, what do you do?
	It's like, okay, they'll just continue on with the facade.
	But okay.
	Can I have you read this one?
	Go ahead.
	For the love of God, all the fucking idiots voting for the Democrats and their current dangerous ideologies are going to realize when they grow up what a terrible mistake they made.
	Hmm.
	Northern Alberta kid.
	I'm assuming he's from Canada.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the message.
	Austin, can you open up the biggest problems plaguing America right now?
	If you have to put your finger on a few issues when you're looking at it in the political sense, purely emotion aside, just political issues that you would like to.
	Hail and well met.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.02.
	Jake, since you want to white knight for the Who So much, let's change the subject.
	Jake, what are your thoughts about Mason getting your sloppy second?
	Sorry, so.
	White knighting is very different to just wanting to move the fuck on, first of all.
	And I don't know what you're talking about, who Mason is.
	Shout out to Mason.
	All right.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins, for the TTS.
	Jake, you got a question for her?
	Yeah, so in terms of your overall, like what political issues you're concerned about, what do you think, yeah, what are the two or three issues that you'd be wanting to see cleared up this election?
	Homelessness and drug crisis.
	I don't think that can be cleared up in this election.
	That will not be cleared up with Kamala.
	Only got worse because everyone's been gotten flicked.
	It's literally gotten so much worse.
	So she's done a lot of her work in California.
	California is one of the hubs of the entire, well, probably the hub of America, Los Angeles, for homelessness and the drug crisis.
	This is a big bureau, big business in America.
	Kinky Underscore Christian donated $200.
	I think it was a deep throat, not a deep fake.
	Just Sam.
	That was kind of funny.
	This is kind of like thank you, Kinky Christian.
	It's almost like the Streisand effect by denying it or like trying to hide it or suppress it.
	It just kind of amplifies it and just makes it worse.
	Like I said, I don't judge people on their past.
	I mean, like, I don't care if you did it anyway and you were like, I did it, but if you did, you know, obviously you're the only one who knows.
	Like, I haven't seen it.
	But to just be like, hey, I did this.
	I fucked up.
	I wish I didn't.
	Or, you know.
	The thing is, it's hard though because you don't know if it's an act or not.
	It could just be like, she could just be doing an act the whole time to try and get people over to the OnlyFans.
	I think people come over to my OnlyFans.
	You think she'd want to promote it?
	Well, yeah, I mean, the more drama, the more drama, the more we talk about it.
	So I think it's best that we just move on from it because this is honestly, you never know on this show, these girls have a good poker face when someone is just lying to your face.
	Agreed.
	I actually didn't come on here to promote my OnlyFans.
	I didn't want it to be brought up, and I actually didn't even want to get on OnlyFans.
	I started it very late in the game.
	What did you come on here to do then?
	Because I love the podcast and I like everybody on the panel.
	I knew it would be a great discussion.
	Did you come on here to promote your lingerie business?
	Yeah.
	And then your OnlyFans is what's feeding your well.
	I didn't really want to mention it, but I didn't want to.
	If you didn't want to mention it, why'd you DM him and say that you did OnlyFans?
	I didn't DM him and said I did OnlyFans.
	Oh, you just found that when she described it.
	I just looked through these.
	Oh, okay.
	Then discussed it.
	No, literally, hold on.
	I believe your first message was one moment here.
	Sorry, guys, getting this pulled up.
	You said you are a.
	Sorry, guys.
	Holy fuck, there's way too many notes.
	What the fuck?
	How many fucking notes are there?
	God damn.
	Where is it?
	Sorry, guys.
	Let me play this while it's fucking.
	One eternity later.
	Am I just fucking skipping over it?
	Am I like.
	You said you're a conservative and God-fearing OnlyFans creator.
	Literally, like the first thing you said to us.
	Oh, I did mention OnlyFans.
	Hills of Beverly donated $200.
	Of course, of course.
	Ryan and Carter Snake don't know what to do.
	Thank you.
	It's just like, here's the thing: like, I've had girls who've come on the show and they're like, hey, I used to do this in my past, but I'd like rather not it be brought up.
	And I'll actually accommodate them.
	But like, if you don't ask for that accommodation, and then if I'm asking you a question related to what you do, and then you just lie, then it just opens up room for like exploration of are you lying then?
	It's free game.
	Whatever you'd like to discuss with me is fine.
	Okay.
	Well, except your past of sucking dick on camera.
	I don't have a past of that.
	Okay, all right.
	I mean, there's a video of it.
	You deny it, whatever.
	So back to my notes, I guess.
	I need to try to get through the notes here because there's a lot.
	So why don't we go to who first?
	Crystaline, creator of the pink pill self-improvement for black women.
	That's me.
	You're in a relationship leading to marriage.
	Tell us briefly, there's an old guy who offered you $7,500 on your first date.
	What's the story there?
	Yeah, first date, older gentleman.
	I told him that I wanted to launch a business, a body care line.
	And he really wanted to date me, and he said, that's a mitzvah.
	I will help you.
	And wrote me a check.
	Deposited in my, well, he deposited in my Bambik account.
	And if, you know, yeah, that might be a little sketch, maybe, you know.
	But I took the money, yes, and I'm very grateful for it, and we're still friends, and I made good on the money.
	What were the strings that were attached to the money?
	We dated.
	Yeah.
	But it wasn't like he just, we didn't date.
	We didn't have a date.
	It's about six months, six, seven months.
	And were you like dating is in exclusively dating or just catching up?
	Exclusively dating.
	So it wasn't like a down payment for a few Ivanadas?
	No.
	We were together.
	Okay.
	You said you wanted to touch on the ridiculous gender wars happening in dating and relationships.
	You authored a book about interracial dating.
	Is that the swirl book or whatever?
	Yeah, that I gave you.
	From a black woman's perspective.
	It was very sticky, by the way.
	I don't know why that was.
	Yeah, I think it was something in my suitcase.
	Sorry.
	It's all good.
	It might be interesting to discuss.
	So the book is called Swirl.
	Swirling.
	Swirl.
	With the ice cream cone.
	And you're dating a white man, is that?
	Yes.
	And so what's the book, like plot synopsis?
	What's it about?
	Well, it was written back in 2012, and black women have the lowest marriage rates, the highest divorce rates.
	We outnumber black men by the millions.
	And at the time, black women were 42% single, and everybody was kind of, what are we going to do?
	42% of black women are single.
	And I said, I just got married.
	I was a writer and very much wanted to write a book.
	And what better thing than my own experience?
	Other friends of mine, women, had said, girl, how did you do that?
	How did you, because it was just, you know, in the early 2000s, it was seen as something that just wasn't done.
	A lot of black women.
	Interversial dating?
	From black women, interracial.
	Oh, like dating white guys.
	Yeah, it just was a lot of stigma.
	There's a lot of social consequences that went along with it.
	And so I came out and said, hey, date the best man for the job.
	Does it work vice versa, though?
	Absolutely.
	Like black men dating.
	Oh, they do it twice as much.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that didn't need to be told.
	And then what about white women dating any other, like racist?
	Go with God.
	Whoever you want to date.
	Yeah, everybody dates who they want to date.
	Yeah.
	And then you said that you're one of the rare people who actually went to charm school.
	You have an argument that women should pick that up again.
	Yes.
	I do think that there has been something lost in terms of the way we communicate with each other, the way that we, the way that we dress, the way that we speak to people, the respect that we give to people seems to be lost.
	So yeah, I do think, I definitely do think that.
	Like last week, there was a girl on your show, and she was sitting in the top, and she just like went up to go to the bathroom, and I could see everything.
	I'm like, girl, do you know how to do this?
	Careful on camera there in Austin.
	Do that.
	You know what I mean?
	And so, yeah.
	I think we could learn, you know, there's things that we can learn.
	Be more civil.
	Yeah, not more civil.
	Are you just talking about like etiquette?
	Yes, etiquette is what you do, protocol is when you do it.
	And I think that there's a lot of confusion about what you do and when you do it.
	All right.
	You said these are disagreements.
	I do think that the show doesn't always give a good representation of single women dating.
	A seeming annoyance with women.
	I take issue with some of the regressive stances the men take about women's agency in society.
	What are some of those?
	Not necessarily you, Brian.
	I was hoping Andrew would be here.
	My main beef was the idea that women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
	I mean, that's a that's not my position.
	No, I know that's not my position.
	Yeah, so that was what's not here.
	Yeah, that was what I wanted.
	That's what I took issue with.
	Should they be able to vote?
	You're not serious, right?
	We're not going to have this.
	If you want to have the discussion, let's do it.
	Really?
	I think we should.
	Okay, all right.
	Should women be drafted?
	No, I said I don't want to be drafted.
	Let's veteran that question.
	But we're going to keep on.
	If we want to do, if you're going to do this, we're going to have to keep on the subject.
	So, voting, meaning the what do you mean that women?
	First of all, let me ask you what's your position?
	No, I'm asking you your position.
	You're taking, you're the one who wanted to talk about it.
	I'm happy to steal man it.
	So, why should they vote?
	Well, I think that, first of all, it's a bizarre notion that the United States government or any other Western country would ever take a woman's right to vote away from her.
	It's a nonsense conversation that seems to be clicks for cash kind of conversation because it's never going to happen.
	You're still not giving any reasons.
	It's never going to happen.
	Under our Constitution.
	Our Constitution does not allow for that.
	Our Constitution says that men are created equal.
	Men and women are created equal.
	Right, so should we draft women?
	Listen, if you want to draft women, you can.
	You can talk to President Trump or President Harris, whoever is in charge if you want to do that.
	But what we're talking about is: can women vote?
	Yeah, so once again, what's the reason why women should vote?
	Because they're a human being, they contribute to society.
	Hey, let's take it one by one.
	One by one, one by one.
	Human being.
	Human beings.
	Should infants vote?
	Yes.
	So first off, women are half of this population.
	They have a right and they have a say, and they deserve to be represented.
	Why?
	Because they are half of this population.
	They are human beings, and our Constitution says that we are equal.
	And not only that, but society, Western society, this is a regressive idea that women should not be able to vote.
	And what it was.
	Regressing.
	Regressing to what exactly?
	You're saying 10 things.
	We need to take it one by one because it's spurging.
	So regressive, regressing to what?
	Regressing to 100 years ago, over 100 years ago.
	Is that a bad thing?
	Yes, it is.
	Did you say morally we're better off now than we were 100 years ago?
	But we're not talking about that.
	We are not talking about the effects of women being able to vote and extrapolating that to where we are morally as a society.
	Because Hitler also happened when women were able to vote.
	So if you look at how women vote, I mean, what do you want to what?
	No, I just want you to lay out a logical argument as to what we're doing.
	I mean, we drawn when women are able to vote.
	You said they're humans.
	Infants are humans.
	Should infants be able to vote?
	and people who what's the next Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You need to take it point by point.
	You're doing a lot of talking, but not making too much sense.
	Okay.
	Women are humans.
	Okay, not a good reason.
	What's the next one?
	No, but they are, they are, it is a human right.
	That's what I meant to say.
	Okay, so it is a human right to be able to vote.
	So we can just scratch that I said women are humans.
	And what is a human right to vote?
	It is a human right to vote.
	I think women should be able to vote.
	And for the sake of this being clipped, I don't think you're doing a great job at all of explaining why women should be able to vote.
	Because now people are going to see them and be like, that's why women shouldn't vote.
	They can't make up their mind.
	I mean, that's not a good question.
	Women should be thankful for your contribution.
	But let me share that.
	She's making more sense.
	There's so many reasons I can name.
	Please do a better job.
	You're representing women that when this is clipped and people are saying this is why women shouldn't be able to vote.
	Like, there's so many reasons.
	Okay, well, okay, well, you tell me.
	We're a part of this society, and we do make up a big population, but we're also part of the society.
	We work, we contribute, we pay taxes, we're forced to pay taxes.
	We go through the education system.
	We make decisions about our children, and we want the best for our kids.
	That's why we vote.
	Should we take it one by one?
	Yes.
	Okay, first one: you work and pay taxes.
	Correct.
	14-year-olds work and pay taxes.
	Should they vote?
	I think the age is 16 to work, but should they vote?
	What?
	How old do you have to be to vote?
	18.
	Why can't 16-year-olds vote?
	They work and pay taxes.
	Because they're just working and they don't understand the system.
	How's it a straw man?
	Because you know that voting, the voting age is 18.
	So it's a cluster of things.
	So the fact that we are, it is our human right to be able to vote.
	The fact that we can vote for two years.
	You made a claim.
	You have to substantiate that claim.
	Where is this human right?
	Okay, so I didn't.
	Tell that to the people of Tajikistan.
	I would say that to, oh my gosh, the organization, the United Nations, says that it has declared that it is a woman's human right to vote.
	No, they haven't.
	When did they say that?
	The UN's also curved.
	Yeah, anyways.
	A kindergarten shouldn't be able to vote.
	A kindergartner shouldn't be able to vote, but you're a part of the education system, just like a 16-year-old workshop.
	Oh, wow, you sound so much smarter than I did.
	I'm making actual points, so I disagree.
	So, yeah, kindergarten.
	Can I interject just for a second?
	So I feel like a majority of the women here are more conservative-leaning.
	If you look at how women vote, they lean more left, more liberal.
	They make bad decisions in voting.
	I personally think that if you want to be able to vote, you have to be up for the draft.
	I think that's true.
	Women should be able to give away their voters.
	You think that women shouldn't vote, is what you're saying?
	No, I said that women could be drafted.
	That's what I'm saying.
	But do you think that it's desirable to have women fighting in the military?
	Why not have a lot of people?
	Sure, let's go there.
	What does that go there?
	Do you mean desirable?
	So would you rather be next to standing side by side on the front line with a woman or a man?
	I mean, it depends.
	I don't want some scrawny idiot on the woman.
	A man.
	If you wanted to go into battle, you'd want to be with a man, right?
	Okay.
	I just rethought it.
	And also, women.
	I just rethought my point.
	Men are genetically stronger.
	Men can build muscle quicker.
	Men have better endurance.
	But that doesn't have to do with voting, in my opinion, whatsoever.
	We all have brains.
	I'll tell you why it has to do with voting.
	Because if you are a woman who is able to vote, then voting gets people into power who can send people off to war, who can send countries off to war.
	Whenever America goes into war, actually, Australia follows them, by the way.
	But yeah, so if you can send people to war, have the power to nullify somebody's vote who's older than you and you can have that power, then why should you not have to go to war?
	Yeah, but you're making two different arguments here.
	Like you're saying that if women want to vote, you're saying if this, then that.
	You're not in any position of power to enforce that.
	Why are we even having this discussion?
	What are you going to do?
	You can't make somebody who wants to vote decide they're going to enlist for the military.
	So you're saying regular people shouldn't talk about politics?
	No, but what I'm saying is that it's sort of just being provocative because it's like, do you know what would have to happen for the vote to be of question?
	Just remove the 19th Amendment.
	And it would be absolute anarchy.
	Women would not let that answer.
	Listen, women are guns.
	Women have guns.
	Women know how to fight.
	I'm not saying we would.
	Hold on a second.
	You talk for long periods of time.
	You need to shorten that a little bit.
	All right, go ahead.
	So you said that it would be anarchy.
	You said all the women would get up and get their guns.
	How do you think that would go?
	I'm just saying it wouldn't go over well.
	How do you think that would go for the women trying to overthrow the military?
	I don't think that they care.
	I think that in our country, I don't know about that.
	Why don't you answer the question?
	How would that go for the women if they decided to be up in arms with all of the anarchy and try and overthrow the government and reinstate the 19th Amendment?
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	What I'm saying is that in order for the 19th Amendment to have to be taken away, retracted, it would have to be a major upset in our political system for there to be a constitutional amendment.
	And then what are they going to do?
	Are they going to vote them out?
	Could I add something?
	You're asking, like, you're being aware of that.
	If the women are so pissed off about losing the vote, what are they going to do?
	Vote them out?
	Okay, listen.
	Tell me under what circumstances would it be possible for women to lose the vote?
	I really want you to just lay it out for me.
	What's the scenario?
	Sure, there'd be a Republican.
	No, that's not what I said.
	What would happen?
	What would have to lead up to it?
	So a Republican president would be elected.
	He would propose a bill that would go through the Senate and the House that would be to remove the 19th Amendment.
	It would go to the Supreme Court.
	The Supreme Court would be based Republicans, and they would say, yes, get rid of that 19th Amendment, and then the women wouldn't be able to vote anymore.
	And then the Republicans would get elected against the people.
	And we would all just live together happily, and we would all buy each other's coats and sing happily hand in hand.
	No, that's not inevitable.
	What else would we do with that?
	Because, wait, hold on.
	I'm not going to be an anarchist with that.
	Hold on a second.
	One at a time.
	One at a time.
	You guys can all throw your opinions at me.
	Go.
	You know, what I'm saying is this.
	I'm not trying to attack you.
	I'm just saying.
	No, no, attack me if you want.
	I'm happy to be here.
	I'm being very animated.
	What I'm saying is that for what you are suggesting, it would have to be all men Senate, all men Congress.
	Or the strongest.
	That is not, when has that happened?
	Why should women be in politics?
	Okay, you know, you're not, this is not.
	You can be angry about it or you can make a logical argument.
	Why should you not?
	No, you're not, but your argument is in good faith because you are not giving me a bunch of people.
	I can get that.
	Can I add in backtrack for a second?
	Yeah, I'm going to add in backtrack for a second.
	Men, we're both, women and men are born differently.
	Every human being is born with a brain.
	Certainly.
	And everyone is able to think.
	Men are gifted in the sense that they are stronger, they run faster.
	That's why we have men in women's sports, which I fully agree with.
	Men, men, women.
	Less neurotic, less agreeable.
	And women, you can't have a kid.
	Everyone's born with different things.
	But for the entire population, we all have brains to think.
	We all have arms and legs, the majority, obviously, to work, to do all that.
	Therefore, women should be able to.
	I can't tell if you're playing devil's advocate or you really believe it, but you're from Australia, so I'm happy that you can't vote here for that.
	I will say I'm happy for that.
	That's fair.
	But men getting drafted, they're born differently.
	We're born differently, but we all have a common thing, which is a brain, and we could think.
	I got the point.
	I got the point.
	I'm ready to answer it.
	Great.
	Okay, so men being drafted because they're physically superior to women, right?
	And then you said that we can't have children.
	Physically superior is not what I said.
	You have different stuff.
	You can't have a kid.
	Someone can argue the opposite.
	Okay, so like we made the argument before about the men going into the military, you'd rather have a man next to you because he's physically superior.
	Most men, the vast majority of men, would beat up most women.
	We can agree to that, right?
	100%.
	Okay, cool.
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	Lady in the green, where do you think your rights come from?
	Being born in America.
	Being born in U.S. soil and having the rights and privileges of an American citizen.
	That's where I got my rights.
	Also, my father fought in World War II and my grandfather fought in World War I.
	We are Americans.
	We love this country.
	Okay, yeah, your father and your grandfather served the country.
	Good for them.
	They deserve to vote.
	Yes, and you know what?
	Even their daughters and their granddaughters also deserve to vote.
	People, where I come from, the right to vote is very important to us.
	So I don't play with that.
	Okay, well, why is it important to you?
	Because we weren't always able to vote in this country.
	And it is very important to us.
	Okay, but like, doesn't answer why you should.
	I would love to eat ice cream.
	Ice cream is important to me.
	Because my forefathers fought and died.
	There were people who were hosed in the streets so that I could have the right to vote.
	So I'm going to be an educated voter.
	I'm going to vote.
	I am going to advocate for my children to vote.
	I am going to make sure that I pick the best person for the job.
	I am not a Democrat, nor am I a Republican.
	I am a registered independent.
	I choose my politicians like I choose my men.
	Let the best man win.
	Would you choose Kamala?
	I live in California, so I don't, like you said, I don't get a chance to choose the best man to win.
	Yeah, well, usually, it usually is a man.
	This is something that you can say is a new man.
	Yeah, but can I ask you why men should be able to vote, just so I can hear an example of what you're doing?
	Well, because men bear most of the burden of responsibility in society.
	Men have to go to war.
	Men have to go and fight wars.
	Men build all of the infrastructure around you.
	So you think it's all based on who gets drafted?
	Well, that's one component, but also because you think that women who go to vote should be an exception to voting?
	Yes, draft isn't even a thing.
	If you serve your country, I'd say that could probably be an exception.
	Okay.
	But I'd say it's a key component, though, being drafted.
	Women play a vital role in our society, though.
	Yes, but this is where it gets interesting.
	Because I don't look at the right to vote as like either I'm like human or I'm not human.
	I don't look at that as in any way your intrinsic value is your right to vote.
	I think that people have value but in different ways.
	I think that it's men's job to be in politics.
	It's men's job to run society.
	We're less neurotic.
	We're less agreeable.
	We're better leaders.
	We're more physically capable and that we be the ones who play these dirty games.
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	Do you honestly think she's still in the running for that high-value man now?
	Do you want to respond to that?
	Who is he asking?
	You're the scholar.
	I think we agreed we were done.
	Do you think she's still in the running?
	Obviously, nobody in this panel thinks I'm in the running for a high-value man, but I do have high-value men in my life, and I don't agree.
	So teach their own.
	Cool.
	Would you say that your dad's a high-value man?
	Yeah.
	And he supports your sex work.
	He does.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Anyways, where were we?
	So men build all of the infrastructure around us.
	Men are better leaders.
	I think that menu support sex work, but that's men belong in politics.
	And I think that actually we do women a massive disservice because women's role generally in society, if we're looking at what's fruitful, is to reproduce and is to be mothers.
	That's the primary role of a woman.
	And I think that the primary role of a man is to protect and provide.
	And along that is, and along with that is all of those disgusting things like fighting wars, doing politics, playing the game of chess that is politics.
	And women, in their best form, in I think it's just a fact, is raising children.
	And if you can channel whatever power that you have as a woman into a family, there's nothing better that you can do.
	I agree.
	They need to be in politics.
	I will say that there are outliers because we can look at the Bible and see that there are outliers.
	But I think there are too many women who want to be an outlier, but they have none of the characteristics of an outlier.
	So it's kind of like goes into the whole delusional thing.
	People think that they're more attractive than they are and all of that.
	And it's like everyone wants to be an outlier now, but that's not, they're outliers for a reason.
	They're rare.
	You say that men usually have those traits, right?
	That's why in America we have the system of if you went to prison because you committed a crime, you get your vote stripped away from you because we've decided that if you commit that, you don't have the brain capacity or whatever the right words would be.
	But women, like, just as I'm able to spit my opinion right now and I lean more Republican, right?
	But I don't think that has to do.
	Girl in the lime green, shut the blank up, idiot.
	Have a conversation like the others are trying to have.
	If you want equal rights, sign up for the chat.
	What was the last statement you said?
	Does someone remove the last statement?
	You lean Republican.
	Oh, I said I lean Republican.
	I don't think.
	But you also mentioned about the prison system, and that's a good system in the sense that people who commit bad crimes, but doesn't that just show you that democracy is malleable?
	Democracy is not this sort of overarching thing where everybody has this human.
	You can take away the vote from people if it benefits society.
	If you don't want a criminal voting, then you can take away that vote.
	I mean, that's what I'm saying.
	But women, like, also, like, they're not really playing a good society role.
	If, like, if, I mean, obviously there's circumstances, but I'm saying women, if I have to pay taxes, I went through the school system.
	I'm still dealing with inflation.
	I still have to pay gas.
	I still have to do all these things.
	And I want to say in how I live, I want to say for how my children grow up.
	And you say, like, men were more rational, but you're talking to a group that seems to lean more to the right.
	So it's a matter, maybe.
	Does everyone on the panel think that women should have the right to vote?
	All the girls, all the women?
	I do.
	Yes.
	Wait, Jake, one thing really quick.
	I don't know if you made this argument because I was gone for a bit.
	You mentioned like women pay taxes, ergo, women should vote.
	But if you look at women as a collective, they're actually a net negative.
	Like they take out far more in taxes than they put in.
	So men are the only ones that actually contribute collectively.
	Everything is taxed, even though.
	I'm not disagreeing with that, but everything's taxed.
	The money I make from going to work, the things I buy, if I want to go buy an iPhone, like I'm still getting taxed on the phone.
	Like I still pay taxes.
	Right, but so women take out far more in taxes collectively than they put in, whereas men are the only net positive when it comes to the tax system.
	The way you're filing.
	I'm saying that that's a generalization, though.
	I'm not taking money from the government.
	Again, I actually, this is even my position.
	Can I try to find some middle ground?
	I'm fine with women.
	I just want to know in what way do women drain the system?
	Is it through childbirth or kids?
	I forget the exact terminology, but tax, net, negative women.
	I'm going to just Google it.
	Please don't get something from the 1990s.
	I'm just trying to look into it's probably the way that we file taxes, like head of household sources.
	It's men are net taxpayers, whereas so men pay taxes in the aggregate, women do not.
	Let's see here as to the reasons here.
	I mean, it's kind of self-explanatory here.
	I can understand what you're saying, but I'm not going to speak up something that I've ever researched and I don't know because I'm not just going to talk out my ass.
	But at the same time, I feel like I have a good head on my shoulders, especially for my age.
	And when I drop my children off at school, I don't want them learning certain things that are like that I don't agree with and I want to have the vote on that.
	If Kamala was whatever president and she's telling Planned Parenthood to give out free birth control without my knowledge, I don't want that to happen.
	And yeah, so I reckon somewhere you could find middle ground is that do you want to quickly ask me a question before we do this?
	Yeah, I wanted to ask you, do you personally believe that women should not have the right to vote?
	Yes.
	You do personally believe that.
	Yes.
	So I agree with that.
	Absolutely.
	So what kind of government would you call that?
	Well, you could still call it a representative democracy, but only men vote.
	How is that stripped of their rights to vote all the time?
	No, but you're talking about 50% of the population.
	We're not talking about a few felons here and there.
	We're talking about the entire swath of, you know, like half of the money.
	So if you have half of the country not being represented, what is that government called?
	Well, it's still called a representative democracy, but less people vote.
	No.
	How can it be a representative democracy when there's literally millions of people who are not being represented?
	That's happening right now.
	Children can't vote.
	No, I'm asking you, what kind of government is that?
	I just told you, but you're not accepting my answer.
	I think that it's more totalitarian government than not, it's not a democracy.
	A democracy is.
	Democracy, first of all, the United States of America is not a democracy.
	It's a constitutional republic.
	Yes, I do understand that.
	You guys just have a representative, you have a system where you have a democratic vote, but it's not a pure democracy.
	And obviously, and democracy isn't like utopia.
	Democracy isn't this idea of heaven.
	Democracy is just a political system.
	It's not like a flawless political system, so it needs to be adjusted.
	Who are you the one to do it?
	Well, we can talk about it.
	We can all have our different ideas.
	And if you have your ideas, you can say them.
	And saying to me something like, well, you're the one to fix it all doesn't actually make a good argument for you.
	I'm not.
	I'm just asking.
	My argument is.
	I think that I have good ideas.
	Think you have a good idea?
	So let's talk on the merit of the ideas rather than the market.
	All right, let me ask you this: Is there any possibility in this conversation that I could be wrong, or you could be wrong, or I could be right, and you could be right?
	Yeah, of course.
	So, so we're going to have a real conversation.
	That's what I've been trying to do.
	Okay, all right, that's good.
	So, I think.
	So, I think that in terms of finding common ground, I think that one way that would be actually pretty effective is having a vote for the home rather than the individual vote.
	Because when you look at the value of men and women is obviously very different when it comes to fighting wars and then creating a home.
	If you had a vote where there was one vote per household, but it was the husband who did the vote, then that would make a lot of sense.
	Because if you did want to beelster 77 donated $200 for the Americans, who is everyone voting for the next election and why?
	I'll just finish that off.
	If you did want to vote, and if it was so important to you, then you could get married and be a part of a family, and you and your husband could make that decision.
	I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this statement, but do you think that to vote, you should be married?
	I think that having a vote in the home, in the nuclear family, would be a good idea because that's the best representation.
	I'm saying for a single person.
	So, how does that work for somebody like me, for instance, where I was married before?
	Single women, no, single men, yes.
	Okay.
	So, that's not a family voting.
	It's basically just men.
	Well, like I said before, they pretend to listen to the women.
	I mean, but that's just, I feel like that's a lie.
	Like, that to phrase it is something that you don't actually mean.
	Like, can we agree on that?
	That's what I'm saying.
	I'm not 100% sure what your point is because I actually made the argument about it.
	I think my point about what I think you're like mis saying is that you said that married women, so the man just goes in.
	It's kind of just like, here's a dollar, and then I'm giving a million dollars to that person, but seeing it's equal.
	It's just the idea that the man is the head of a household and the man does it.
	So, men only should vote, though.
	So, you're just rephrasing it in a way that may sound like better to women is what it is.
	No, you're a part of a family unit, and the man represents the family, and he casts his vote on behalf of the family.
	Correct, but you said single men should be able to draft.
	Yeah, because single men can get drafted, and single men build the infrastructure around you.
	I got to move things on a little bit here, but I think women should vote, but I also think they should be drafted.
	In fact, for equity's sake, they should actually be the only ones drafted and forced to fight in wars for the next thousand years or so.
	That would be equity to me.
	So, I think we do that.
	Going to the TTS, going to the TTS that came through.
	For the Americans, who is everyone voting for the next election?
	Why?
	This is Belster77.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Appreciate it.
	Who are you voting for and quickly why?
	Kamala, because I want to.
	Okay.
	Trump, because he encourages American manufacturing.
	Trump.
	Trump.
	Tramp.
	Trump.
	Doesn't matter.
	I live in California.
	Okay.
	I passed.
	It doesn't matter.
	I don't actually vote.
	My dad votes for me and I just signed the ballot.
	I've been doing it since I was 18, but I'm pretty sure it will say Trump.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	We have Dylan Joe.
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	You're not over the hill.
	If you retire, at least become a pilot.
	Your intro spiel makes me feel like I'm landing on whatever planet.
	This girl is lucky.
	Andrew Tate's not here.
	Listen to Jake.
	Just Andrew.
	Andrew's not.
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	How about we don't move on?
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	You are being boring.
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	We should do a poll.
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	Look, the chat, I'm going to have to.
	I think I'm not even posting anything.
	Like, the people in the Discord are finding a fuck ton of shit.
	So is there something else now?
	There's another video.
	Women don't be able to vote.
	This is regressive.
	There's another video.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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	Calling out liars, I guess.
	But the lingerie model.
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	She knows exactly what she's doing.
	She knows there's a bunch of like conservative viewers and she's trying to pander.
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	We've had the virgin last time.
	Remember that girl with all the surgery?
	You said she didn't have surgery and she said she was a virgin or whatever?
	That one who remembers on Soft White Underbelly?
	What a girl.
	All the surgeries.
	Yeah, maybe she said she had a beat.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know exactly what you're talking about.
	Yep.
	It's the exact same.
	She was egregious, though.
	Yeah, she was the worst.
	This is not as bad.
	This is not as bad as her, but this one you can't actually confirm it.
	With the other one, you could.
	Okay, I have a question.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	So with you, whether or not you did this, I obviously don't know.
	I haven't seen the video.
	I can't confirm anything.
	But is your holdback from confirming this video that you think those of us on here that might have a different perspective on OnlyFans, we would judge you if you had openly admitted that you were in these videos or is it I mean it's I've already been fully judged on the I've already had all the judgment So I'm not scared of being further judged.
	I just didn't do that.
	So I'm not going to confirm something that's untrue.
	Okay.
	It's crazy, though.
	I don't have a problem doing that.
	I haven't, though.
	So I wouldn't care about being judged.
	Hold on.
	All right.
	I just don't sell that kind of content.
	And how am I promoting my OnlyFans when I'm literally saying I don't sell that kind of content?
	I don't do that.
	So is there any chance that this is there any chance that this is a private video with somebody that you were dating previously that recorded something that got on the internet?
	I would say not.
	I would know if somebody did that to me.
	Okay.
	It's crazy, though, because I mean, like, this hesitation to want to share something like this, we've had full-blown escorts, prostitutes.
	They've had like literal, they work for a brothel.
	I don't think what you've done is even to that degree.
	and they just come on, admit it, we don't like.
	One of the most pleasant guests we've ever had on, her name's Lauren.
	She's slept with like over a thousand men for work or whatever.
	And we treat her perfectly politely, respectfully.
	She's a good sport, and it's just like, but when you lie, I think that's the issue that I and the viewers have.
	It's like when you lie about it, then that's people are like, well, hold on, nope.
	Here's the XYZ video.
	Here's all this other stuff.
	Anyways, I don't really want to linger on it.
	It's kind of beating a dead horse.
	It gives it a lot of attention, though.
	I'm not saying that that's what you're saying.
	Anyways, this is why I'm going to have her.
	Ask the woman, stop, stop.
	Go ahead.
	Ask the women why they should vote, and they start fighting amongst each other.
	Even if someone has a good opinion, if they can't logically articulate why their opinion holds less value, learn to think.
	Men would do that too.
	Men will argue too.
	I mean, that's.
	I agree, though.
	I don't think of articulated.
	Do you think women should be drafted?
	No.
	Because I agree with him that men's bodies are physically superior.
	Not superior, but like.
	So you think women should be allowed to vote, right?
	Yeah, so I.
	Okay.
	I've done a lot of traveling over the last few years, and I've been to Bali and Thailand.
	I spent a bit of time there working digital nomad stuff.
	And there's a lot of Russian Ukrainian girls over there, like thousands of them, everywhere you go.
	But in Russia and Ukraine, there's probably upwards of a million young dudes who have been blown to pieces and died in the war.
	So we can talk about this in a way that's just abstract, but it actually really happens in the real world where these guys get called upon and they have to go to war.
	So it's actually, it's not a small deal.
	And all the chicks, they get to run off to Bali and Thailand.
	If you actually place the practical reality in front of a girl and be like, you have this risk where you will go and potentially get blown up by artilleries or lose your legs or something like this.
	They don't know what the artillery is.
	You could get blown to smithereens.
	But I guarantee you, you would give up your vote in a second if it meant that you had to do that.
	I don't think anybody should have to deal with the draft.
	We don't have the draft in this country for a reason.
	Because we do.
	We ought to pause.
	I know there's been a men have to register in this country.
	But there is no sign up.
	There's no draft.
	There hasn't been a draft.
	If there was a war tomorrow and the U.S. had to go and fight a hot war, you would be like, there was no draft.
	Like when we had a conflict in Iraq, we did not have a draft.
	You didn't need to.
	We didn't need to have a draft because there was enough people.
	You were fighting like sheepherders.
	You didn't need to.
	We also did not do the draft.
	So we have what I'm saying.
	It's in place if needed.
	It's not like, oh, it's not jury duty where it's like, oh, this guy needs to go.
	There is enough men and women who volunteer to put their life on the line that we don't need to utilize a draft.
	It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
	You have to sign up for the draft when you are a man and you turn of age.
	Okay, that's, I didn't know that.
	Yeah, and there's consequences if you don't.
	It's technically felony, $250,000 fine.
	You're barred from certain federal jobs, federal programs.
	You can't get student aid.
	There's a whole bunch of ramifications.
	Wait, I have a question for you real quick.
	Go for it.
	Some men can't be able to get drafted.
	They're very, I don't know the exact if they lessen what the requirements are if it comes to a draft.
	I'm not sure about that.
	But I know that there are certain things that, you know, if you have mental, if you're on medication, you follow like, I have celiac, so I can't eat gluten.
	I couldn't go to war even if I wanted to because of that.
	That's a thing.
	You can look it up.
	Really?
	People with celiac disease are barred from.
	There's a lot of gluten at war, bro.
	What the hell?
	Look it up.
	If you have a certain food intolerance, there are certain things.
	Can't you guys let Paula answer that?
	There are certain things that prohibit you if you have like heart disease, if you have stuff that would affect like your physical and actual like you know well-being and could cause the death of somebody else because you have a heart attack or you know have um diabetes stuff like that.
	Yes, there are medical exceptions to it, but other than medical expressions.
	I mean, I did look it up.
	The diagnosis of celiac or food allergies is medically disqualifying largely because the military does not provide gluten-free or allergen-safe MREs.
	So that's what I'm saying.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	There are medical exceptions.
	Yeah, some people can be medically disqualified from you say that like it's a blown-off, but you were wrong.
	Number one.
	Number two, the question, number two, the question that I had was: do you think men that don't qualify if they have celiac or they have certain heart diseases?
	Yeah, if you're medically disqualified, you're not going to be drafted.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So are they able to?
	Able-bodied women are not subject at all.
	So do the men who are disqualified from being drafted, can they vote?
	That's what I'm asked.
	That was the question.
	That's a good question.
	I would say that if you're a celiac and you don't want to be drafted, then yeah, you shouldn't vote.
	Well, okay.
	No, it's not a joke.
	I can't eat gluten and I can end up in the hospital.
	It eats my stomach lining.
	Every two years I have to get a biopsy and I'm going to accept that.
	But that's a normal thing.
	Some people have it so severe where they can't even use the same pan.
	I mean, it's not like just a blown over joke.
	Like, if you, you'll starve.
	If the MREs, it's what it's called, they, I assume, have gluten in them, right?
	Yeah, but the military can't do it.
	So these are the current standards where we're not really involved in like a massive mobilization.
	So the military could always like, oh, we really need people.
	We're going to roll this back, and perhaps we don't send them to the front line where they need to be consuming MREs, but they could stay stateside and be do some form of military service.
	Administrative stuff, whatever.
	The military needs pencil pushers, like paper pushers.
	Look what they're doing.
	The average age of service at the moment in Ukraine is like 45.
	They're ripping people off the streets and drafting them left, right, and center.
	So here's the deal: I think that women do give service during times of war.
	And if you want to win wars, you're not going to put women on the front lines anyway.
	No, put them on the front line.
	Soften up the enemy a little bit.
	We're going to be washing the cups.
	We're going to be washing the clothes.
	We're going to be doing the things.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So if that means that's what I'm going to do when I get drafted, okay.
	If I'm serving my country, okay.
	But you can't.
	I mean, I don't have the okay, but I'm willing to do it.
	It's a support role, and I'd be okay to do it.
	Anyways, let's get back to dating.
	I'll read this.
	Or actually, I'll have you read this.
	Go ahead.
	Ukraine is an example of why women should not vote.
	They elected a politician that are terrible at managing the economy.
	Weakening the country so much it became an easy target.
	The war starts, and hundreds of thousands of men are dead, and women are simply left in the world.
	Yo, Vadim, thank you for the $100 soup chat, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Actually, there's a really good.
	I'll just say it.
	So, Jake already kind of brought this up, but we've shown this graphic before where you'll see people who are in other countries will see Ukrainian women on dating apps in these other countries.
	They fled Ukraine and they're on Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, they're out at the club partying, whatever.
	Meanwhile, their male counterparts, their male peers, are like dead in some ditch in like eastern Ukraine.
	So it's like very, there's such a massive contrast there.
	That's kind of interesting to point out.
	Thank you for the super chat, though.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Let's get back to something dating related.
	Let's get through the notes here.
	Let's see.
	Where were we?
	Crystalline.
	Crystalline?
	Crystalline?
	You said I think that the show does a relatively good job of pointing out the absurdities in dating when it comes to women, but not so much on the men who are also capable of such fuckery.
	It gives the impression that all the issues people are having in dating is 100% on the women, which is patently not true.
	We kind of dived into that a little bit early on in the conversation.
	But I have something else that I want to bring up too, and that's another layer to it.
	Gen Z is averaging two IQ points lower than the rest of us.
	They are addicted to their devices.
	They are not meeting reading and math scores.
	They have terrible communication skills.
	Teachers are quitting because the kids are so horrible.
	And I think about less intelligent, poor reading comprehension skills, poor critical thinking skills.
	And all they have is the internet to teach them.
	They were born on it.
	It's been their whole lives.
	And when you're talking about that level of intellectual vulnerability, I shudder to think like some of the things that are being promoted, not necessarily this show, but I'm saying in general, some of the extreme content on both sides.
	Like, you know, get a guy for all his money, or, you know, sleep with a thousand girls before you marry.
	Like, these are all bad, this is bad advice.
	And we follow those things to their logical end, then we're doomed.
	We're in trouble.
	I just think that as content creators, we have kind of a responsibility.
	These kids are, the oldest cohort is 14.
	These are the people who are born 2010 and after.
	And in four years, they're going to be voting age.
	You know, they and they have these issues.
	Do we really want the relationship advice just in general?
	No.
	The things that they're saying.
	And I just think that we just need to be more responsible.
	I think there's a lot of people who disagree.
	Are you talking specifically about this podcast?
	No, no, I specifically said I think that's why I'm here because this podcast is good.
	I said it leans a little bit, but I've seen extreme.
	And I think that it sows discontent.
	You are dealing with very vulnerable kids, and you're putting all of this nonsense into them.
	You're not teaching them how to be in relationships.
	Who is putting I don't want to say, but it's not you.
	Okay.
	Are you talking about the red pill content?
	Red pill content, but also sort of exploit men monetarily content, like men are trash.
	Like, oh, there was a woman here yesterday, last week, and you were going through her Twitter feed.
	And it was just one thing after the other about men, this, like, she's so stupid.
	Like, that is, yeah, it's unnecessary.
	I think it's just not going to end well if we don't do something.
	All right.
	So, this criticism, this is in the criticism about the podcast.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	No, I just had the voting thing for Andrew, but he wasn't here.
	Okay.
	Let's get into some of the other notes.
	We have Lindsay, hairstylist, used to be a hairstylist.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hair looks great.
	You dated a Marine, and your roommate at the time apparently had a crush on him.
	She got drunk and expressed it to me, then bit me literally.
	Yeah, literally.
	So I was like 24.
	And I, well, I moved to California from Illinois when I was 22, and then moved to Newport, got a roommate.
	She was living there in the two-bedroom at the time.
	But anyways, we went out one night and we met like some guys that were in the military.
	Keep in mind, this isn't like a trend that she's here to with that.
	She was like, we didn't like talk about it.
	And then we went out and met with them like, I think the following weekend.
	And the one that had a crush on me, apparently she had a crush on, but didn't say that.
	Now keep, I'm coming from a younger standpoint.
	So we were on in the taxi from the Newport Peninsula going back to the house.
	And then she just started freaking out, crying.
	I barely knew her.
	Like she was a mutual, like a referral for a roommate.
	And she bit me.
	She literally bit like into my arm.
	Damn.
	Like took a chunk.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's really crazy.
	That's crazy.
	Well, it's pretty much gone now because it's been a long time.
	But I called the cops because it was bleeding and I was like standing outside.
	And the very next day, well, I called my cousin that night and they came and I went to their house and then we went there tomorrow to get my stuff.
	But it was really intense.
	She had a, well, I didn't know her all that well.
	And I was still kind of in.
	You said that you had a disagreement.
	You do not agree with Brian giving an ultimatum on if a woman wants a second date, having to fully commit to only going on dates with him.
	I will elaborate more on the show.
	Please, please do.
	I don't agree with that because I feel like that there is a mix of who comes on this show.
	So me, I don't go on a lot of dates.
	Clearly, haven't in 10 months.
	So my dating with intention, I don't, first dates are just, I don't think they're real.
	I feel like they are a fallacy.
	Oh, they're fake.
	They're someone putting on their best behavior, showing all their best qualities.
	And whatever that means, I think that committing to someone before you actually, like, why would you commit to somebody that you just did a first interview with without seeing them in a natural, let's make that second date in a natural habitat, like around their friends and in a social environment?
	Now, people can say, that sounds like pressure.
	Why are we introducing to friends?
	No.
	And my opinion is when I'm around my friends or I see somebody in their environment, it kind of sees how things can click, whether it's friendships or, I mean, you're not going to go to the family, but in a social environment or some sort of setting where it's not somebody on their best behavior.
	Every single person is on their best behavior on a first date.
	And well, if they're not, then obviously there's bigger issues.
	But I just think that getting or having that commitment kind of devalues commitment.
	Well, I mean, there's varying degrees of commitment.
	Do you see at all where I'm coming from with that?
	Well, I mean, people can operate in different ways.
	100%.
	But my own personal standard is if you want a second date with me, it has to be a wrap on other dudes.
	Are you saying a second date with you when it's being intimate, or that means that they cannot go Like, what if they plan a second date with you and they're out somewhere, whether it's a grocery store, a restaurant, or a bar, and they meet somebody else and they spark an interest.
	You guys are in a relationship.
	What if they exchange phone numbers?
	Is that still to you inner, you know, is that is that the same thing?
	Like, where is your boundary with that?
	Well, sort of, I think the greater context for this is if I were to meet somebody off of a, if you met them off a dating app, for example.
	I actually don't think it's all that hard to date one person at a time.
	I agree.
	And so, and this doesn't mean, well, obviously you can date this person, and if it works out great, or you go on two, three, four dates and it doesn't work out, then you can move on to somebody else.
	But if I were to go on a first date with a girl and I find out that she's got three other dates lined up with three other men, I lose interest immediately.
	Now, I think that that's kind of pretty common for a lot of people when they're dating.
	They're dating multiple people at the same time.
	Now, if a girl is sleeping with a guy and talking to me, that is 100% a deal breaker.
	Oh, I agree.
	A lot of women move like that.
	A lot of women move like that.
	If they're sleeping with one, maybe two, maybe three.
	Not interested at all.
	I don't even want to fuck you.
	I don't want to go on a date with you.
	I don't want to kiss you.
	I don't want anything to do with you if you're sexually involved with another man.
	Now, I take it a step further, though.
	I think that should be the baseline for men.
	If she's sexually involved with another man, it's a wrap.
	You don't deal with her at all.
	Some of these dudes say recreational use only.
	You can still fuck her.
	No, she doesn't get anything.
	Back to the streets she goes.
	Now, when it comes, I take it a step further, though.
	I have higher expectations.
	If she's romantically involved with another man, this means even going on a date with another man, not interested.
	There are women out there who are properly single.
	It's rare, ish.
	There are women who are properly single, who are not involved with another guy, who are not like trying to go on three dates a week and they're kind of playing the field.
	There's women who are not on dating apps.
	So this is going to be much more common amongst women who are non-dating apps.
	You, for example, you said you've not been on a date for how long?
	Well, realistically, I haven't been on a date since my son's mother.
	And you said you've been single for 10 months, though.
	Yeah.
	It's probably, I mean, we could give or take a little bit longer, but that's just.
	Well, I mean, you yourself would be, in terms of how you're moving in the dating marketplace, you're not, you're properly single.
	You're not dating other men.
	Yes.
	If I were to ask you on a date, there's a fairly good likelihood.
	We can go, Brian.
	Okay.
	I'm kidding.
	But if I were to ask you on a date, there's a fairly high confidence level on my part.
	It's likely that you're not going to have a date like three days later, given, hold on, just given that you haven't been dating for the past 10 months.
	So I think finding this actually isn't that rare.
	And I don't actually think for relationship and commitment minded men that this is actually a massive ask.
	And you fall into this sort of category where I wouldn't anticipate you if I went on a first date with you, given your lack of, I'm not saying this insult you, but it's not insulting, I feel like.
	I think it's good, actually.
	Your lack of romantic prospects.
	Going into a date with you, I would not anticipate that like the day after you'd go on another date.
	Right, right.
	So I actually don't think it's unreasonable.
	I think where I was coming from when I had wrote that, well, for one, the things that I would like disagree on would be just like the way that certain things were articulated and the way they came out when it came to it.
	So I felt like I just had to put like an answer.
	Sure.
	I look at like you know younger and not all younger girls, but you know, everybody's in a different type of dating period.
	And when they hear that, I see like that's where you know I would essentially say the disagreements are in a line.
	But something that ties in kind of piggybacks on that is you know, when it comes to like paying for the date, me personally, I don't go on serial dates.
	I don't go jump around.
	Oh, I'm gonna go on a date.
	If I'm going on a date with somebody, it's like there are specials me.
	I'm not meeting them off of a dating app.
	It's just not something I'm interested in doing.
	So I would definitely want the man to take me out on a proper date and paid.
	No, I don't need some elaborate, elaborate.
	You know, if you try to overimpress, I'm under, I'm so not impressed because I don't like it.
	I don't like it when people are over the top.
	Does that make sense?
	Sure.
	And I can go further into it if we want.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess to just wrap up on the whole, like, this ultimatum I essentially give of if you want to continue seeing me, if you want a second date, it has to be a wrap with other men or there can't be other men in the picture.
	Yeah, probably a lot of women, that'll end up being an issue because they are involved with other men, whether they're sleeping with them or dating three, four, five men at the same time.
	They have a roster, whatever.
	Do you tend to attract them?
	Like those kind of women?
	I think I do, actually.
	Wait.
	Wait, what?
	Do you attract if you attracted to her?
	Wait, are you saying, do I attract the type of women?
	Yeah, you tend to date multiple women.
	No, no, no.
	I attract the type of women that don't do that, is what I meant.
	Okay.
	Is what I'm meaning to say.
	So typically, anyways.
	But I mean, I was on the dating apps for a long period.
	And when you're on the dating apps, typically the women on the dating apps, you're going to encounter this much more frequently because dating apps give them hundreds of options.
	I've gone on like a dating app, but it's not something I'm like executed on.
	Yeah, so if you can find women off dating apps, I think it's much more likely you'll encounter, and assuming you don't meet them in like bars or nightclubs, you're much more likely to encounter women who are dating a little more intentionally that don't have like a million men in the picture.
	Right.
	Dating apps, you'll encounter this all the time.
	Like it's the woman who doesn't do this would be the exception to the rule.
	I remember I went on a date with like an average looking girl and she told me she had just downloaded Hinge.
	I was like, she downloaded Hinge like a week prior.
	She'd already been on three dates.
	She tells me this on the date.
	She said she had five more dates lined up and I instantly just lost all interest.
	I was just like, okay.
	Do you think it takes away the value of your time with that person?
	Oh.
	I do feel like it takes the value away from your time with that person.
	Yeah, I'm just not really interested at that point.
	Are you dating to marry?
	I don't want to get married.
	Oh, I forgot.
	Are you dating to have your long-term partner?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I prefer long-term relationships.
	I'm not interested in short-term casual sex or sleeping with a girl once and never talking to her again.
	If I sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
	I want to continue seeing her.
	And I do prefer long-term relationships.
	What exactly is the question?
	When you go on a date with a woman, do you think that that should be like their endgame ongoing other dates?
	It depends on who she is.
	And generally with the type of girls that I date, it would be implied.
	But yeah, after the first one, I'd say unless they're like a virgin and they've held on to their purity and they're not going around and sleeping with other guys and that sort of thing.
	But yeah, generally I'd say after the first or second date.
	But if they're a girl who's not sleeping around and they're just meeting guys, it's a tough one.
	It's a tough one because after the first or second date, it would be like, you'd have that chat, but maybe, I don't know.
	Do you think a lot of first dates sometimes is somebody just putting on their best self and you can't, you can get deep, but only to a certain degree of like the conversation?
	I wouldn't say so from my perspective because generally I can weed out a lot of things on the first date and ask little leading questions and you can see where it takes them, what they say, what their answer is.
	Word your interview.
	And I agree.
	I don't like dates.
	Honestly, I don't like dates because I'm like, shut up.
	Like, I know you're not, like, just knock it off.
	Like, and I think that having, I don't know, it's a lot of pressure going on a date if you're dating intentionally.
	If you're dating to get a free meal or do something, you know, elaborate and bougie that you can't afford to do on your own, well, then I guess you're, you know, you're going to get what you get.
	But I just, authenticity and someone being their true self is so far lost in a lot of ways, I feel, when it comes to that.
	I have a question for you guys specifically, because obviously, like, you're the only two men here in regards to dating apps.
	Well, I mean, in like this space, I really.
	This is something that a man once told me, and I was absolutely floored by this conversation because I did not realize this was a thing.
	Do men randomly download dating apps and go through and just swipe on girls with no purpose or intention of having a conversation with them in actuality?
	Yeah, it's something that women do.
	Yeah, I was about to say.
	Men probably do that, but women do that.
	Women do that just for the attention.
	He likes me, he likes me, he likes me.
	No, but I'm not saying like being selective.
	I'm saying just like ripping through and what do you mean?
	Oh, like not even looking.
	Like not even looking.
	I think generally ugly guys will do that.
	Who?
	Oh, actually, like guys who don't really get many matches.
	Or it could just be any guy who just wants to get as many matches as possible, gets Tinder Premium and just does it.
	But what if they don't even get Tinder Premium and then they don't even have a conversation and then just delete the app as if it's like a game for them or something?
	Oh, I haven't had that.
	Maybe they're seeing it.
	I've heard of people.
	Maybe they're looking to see.
	I've heard of people doing it and getting matches just so they get quick matches.
	Yeah.
	But not talking to the people.
	I think part of it is probably because most women swipe no on most men.
	So it's a waste for a guy to spend 30 seconds to review the profile.
	The meta for the dudes is just swipe on everybody.
	And then of the matches you do get, you will see who will respond to you.
	Yeah, because women are the selective ones on the dating apps.
	They'll swipe no on those people and swipe on the ones they want.
	Whereas men will swipe pretty much on everything.
	Otherwise, it's a waste of time for the men.
	So is this basically like kind of playing Russian roulette?
	Just swipe through everybody and see who kind of like responds back to you.
	And then do you know what?
	Yeah, you swipe on everybody and then you sort.
	Then you can sort through the ones whether you message them or not.
	But I think this has an impact.
	Maybe it didn't used to, but probably has an impact on the algorithm if you're swiping on everybody.
	You're going to get deranked and you're going to be shown to less women.
	I'm not familiar with the dating app algorithms anymore, but this was a strategy a long time ago.
	Men just swipe on everyone, but now it's probably changed a little bit.
	But it's just for pure simplicity.
	You swipe on everybody, you let the women be the selectors when it comes to matching.
	Then from there on, you message who you want to message.
	Right, but in most cases, aren't women the one that are initiating the conversation anyway?
	They're not usually the ones.
	Okay, so then how does that even work?
	Because even if guys are swiping on them, then the woman has to see that like and respond to it.
	But in most cases, even if a woman were to match with a man, she's not going to initiate that first conversation.
	I guess it depends on the dating app, but if, as far as I recall, the match occurs and then it just sits there in the match queue, and then the woman could message first, but typically the man's going to message.
	What dating apps do you do, Brian?
	I'm not.
	I'm not on any dating apps right now, but I was on Tinder, Hinge, Bumble.
	Why are you no longer on dating apps?
	Well, I got funny story.
	I got banned on every single one of them.
	Because I was using it to procure guests for the show.
	Oh, God.
	Which is not allowed.
	So in the same way that girls who are trying to promote their OnlyFans or Instagram, they'll usually get banned on the apps.
	I was essentially not using the dating app for its intended purpose.
	But even though you went on dates for map from their app?
	Oh, yeah, I've been on dates from all these years.
	They should have taken that in consideration.
	Well, no, a rule is a rule.
	Sorry.
	There is no black and there is no gray.
	It's black and white.
	I don't think they investigate too much.
	They're just like, are they breaking the rule?
	Yes.
	Okay, bam.
	Doesn't like a, is it hinge or one of them?
	Isn't there like a one where it's for like friends or like businesses or something?
	Bumble gives you like a friends option if you want to do like if you want to become just like friends if girls want to find girlfriends, you can do it.
	There's a website or there's a like it's styled like a dating app, but in the music industry where it says like you swipe and it's you can get roles or it's also like to find friends and stuff.
	They have it for everything, just like the swipe meeting because everyone's lazy nowadays.
	It's easy.
	It's fucking.
	Let's see.
	Paula, you do dog training, right?
	I do.
	How long have you been doing dog training before?
	A long time.
	I started when I was a teenager, when I was around 14 or 15.
	Does any of the dog training stuff translate to dating for you?
	Like, do I can I train men because I can train them.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	I wish I could say that it did, but it does not.
	No translation.
	And I do pretty like intense dog training.
	I don't know if you guys look through my social media videos.
	But I do, yeah, I used to train some police dogs and I do a lot of personal protection dogs and my personal dogs do personal protection training.
	So I saw some, yeah.
	Can you train like a chihuahua to be protection?
	No.
	No.
	They're not genetically made for that.
	I can't do it.
	What do you think about pit bulls?
	Yay or nay?
	I like pit bulls.
	I think that protection dogs or not?
	It depends on the lines.
	It depends where the dogs come from.
	It depends on their lineage.
	It's very similar to.
	Do you do positive reinforcement or negative reinforcement or both?
	I do balance training, which is a mixture of both.
	Do you do any like shot collar stuff?
	My dog, it's not a shot collar.
	It's an e-caller.
	So it's a little bit different.
	But yes, I do e-caller train dogs.
	I don't do it for all of them.
	I'm very okay with my clients not wanting to use it.
	But I do use them on my personal dogs.
	You said that, let's see, you had a guy that went a little hardcore on the first date.
	It was rather uncomfortable.
	Yeah, so this guy, I met him organically because I have tried dating apps before and it just is not my thing.
	Thank you.
	So we went on a date.
	I showed up.
	He rented a SUV, a very expensive one.
	And we went on a date, went to a super high-end restaurant, went to drinks at a bunch of super high-end bars.
	It just seemed very extreme to me, kind of like how you had said.
	Like, I don't need like over the top.
	It doesn't need to be like a huge production.
	I'm not saying that I don't appreciate a guy taking me out for a nice dinner, but for a first date, I do think there is something as going a little too much as if you're trying to flaunt money or love or love bombing, yes.
	And in an attempt to the wrap-up of this story, he wanted me to come up to his apartment at the end of the date, which I do not do.
	I'm not going to go into a man's house apartment after a first date.
	I'm not hooking up with a guy on a first date.
	That's just not my dating style.
	So, when you have this super elaborate planned date, and then at the end of the night, you get invited up to a man's apartment.
	I feel like there is a negative intent behind the date in the first place, as if because he spent so much money, there is an expectation that you're going to go home with that person and have sex with them.
	I mean, that's that was my kind of evaluation of that situation.
	I could be wrong, I could be a little bit harsh, but I don't think you're wrong for your feelings about it.
	I mean, that's the way you feel.
	And then you also, similar to your friend here, disagree with fully committing to singularly dating someone after a first date.
	I'm not committing to someone unless I get to know them, but I'm also very open about that whenever I go out on a date with a new man.
	I don't know if you had any so I think that it's a little premature on like a second date to be like, I'm not going out on a date with somebody else.
	I think that from and I don't go, I don't go out on dates very often, but after a second date, it's very hard to know if you actually like a person enough to go on that third date with them.
	I've known several people who have given somebody chance after chance to kind of get to know them more.
	And then after like the third or fourth date, it usually falls apart.
	So, I think there's a little bit more of like a vetting process that needs to happen.
	Unless you're going on dates, like the first and second dates are like four to six hours long.
	I think it's very difficult to get to know somebody in two dates.
	Now, does that mean that I would go?
	Hey, and well met.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.02.
	That's why it's important to invite the girls into your apartment before the first date.
	See if she is DTF first before you waste your money.
	I think you can hook up quickly.
	Right, but this is exactly the point.
	It's fine.
	Okay.
	Go ahead though.
	This is exactly why I don't date.
	Oh, because lol paladins?
	No, but we love you, Lola.
	Because of that comment.
	Like, if there is just an expectation to have sex, like, can I pay for my own dinner?
	Absolutely.
	Am I going to date a man that's not going to pay for my dinner?
	No.
	But if there is an expectation immediately on the first date to have sex, I would rather not go on the date and cancel it.
	Now, here's what's going to really bamboozle you guys.
	So I actually don't have any objections to having sex immediately.
	I wouldn't think that you would.
	I don't know why.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I thought that would be a bamboozle.
	Like, oh, he doesn't want to have like sex.
	He doesn't want to just.
	You make that very clear.
	He does.
	Okay.
	Well.
	In any case, well, I think my other big objection here is if she's had sex quickly before, then I'm going to feel a type of way if she's like, we're going to wait three months for you, buddy.
	Three months is a little excessive.
	I mean, we're all adults.
	Five dates.
	I'm just going to be like, well, okay, you got one standard for all the guys in the past, but now.
	So, what is your, what's your, what's your cutoff?
	Like, what do you mean?
	Like, what, at what date would you be at?
	Like, you said that it would use.
	You said that it was okay if you had sex with her on.
	You know, how long would you wait before it would have to be a really serious conversation if you liked her?
	If you liked her enough and then she was holding out on you, at what point would you be like, all right, we're either having sex or I'm out and I'm going to go forward.
	Probably it's not so much how much I like her, it's more so her past conduct.
	So if she's a virgin, she gets more leeway.
	If she has a low body count, one, two, three, and all her ex-boyfriends, she made them wait, she gets more leeway.
	But if she's had sex with men before quickly, and now you want to make me wait a month, two months, three months, get the fuck out of here, bro.
	It has nothing to do with your values.
	So I'm just not interested.
	But how would you even know all of this information?
	I feel like this is a lot of oversharing.
	Ask her.
	Yeah, I don't know who these moron women are.
	Yeah, some of these women are really stupid that they're even like disclosing.
	I would hope the women were honest.
	So if you didn't know that information, you're saying women should lie.
	Women should lie about it.
	Brian, if you didn't know that information, though.
	Oh, I'm going to know.
	But no, if you didn't, we're saying you're not.
	I don't want to do it.
	I'm asking you a question that is completely surface level.
	Okay.
	You don't know anything.
	We're not going to put in wool if she's this, this, and this.
	If you don't know, what would be your max on waiting?
	Wait, but there's no scenario where I'm not going to like fucking.
	Hail and well met.
	Okay.
	Lol Paladin's denied.
	Let's go $200.
	Can she pay for her food?
	Yes.
	Can I pay for her food?
	Yes.
	But are you dating someone to see if they are pleasant conversationalists over dinner?
	My time is too valuable for that.
	Come over or GTFO.
	Well put, La Pala.
	Exactly.
	Because the amount of times that women have gone on a date with a man whose only intent is to just have sex with her on the first date and then they get ghosted immediately afterwards, that's exactly why that just does not work for women.
	So what's the question?
	Okay.
	I'm ready.
	Without your stipulations or anything, what would be the absolute longest you would wait for someone you like a lot before you would be like, okay.
	Like, drop your panties or get out.
	Jeez.
	That's an interesting way to put it, but I don't think I'd frame it.
	I've been there for like five hours.
	I'm starting to get henri.
	But, well, I mean, there's no situation where I would not do like a vetting of the girl.
	So I would, assuming she's telling the truth, I would know.
	So what are you going to do?
	I would know the name of her social media and see if any Facebook.
	No, I would just be super direct with her.
	Right.
	Hoping that she's being honest.
	Right.
	Well, women lie.
	Is that what you're going to say?
	Look at what happened in this program today.
	I mean.
	Yeah, I don't date OF chicks.
	I'm just saying that women can be convincing, is all I'm saying.
	You mean women can lie?
	Yes.
	You also asked me.
	There's a difference between a lie and an omission of the tree.
	We answer even if we have to answer, but we can't fully relate.
	So I just wanted to know what your max feel is.
	If you had to choose.
	So she's saying, so she's claiming to be a virgin, but she's not.
	No, it's just, we're going to say, okay, girl you went on a date with or you've been going a couple dates on or whatever.
	You guys haven't done the deed yet.
	You haven't had the conversation.
	You may not exactly do that personally.
	When would you, when would you give kind of like an ultimatum?
	But I know she's had sex before.
	Yeah, sure.
	How many of you have seen that?
	And maybe it was a mixed batch.
	Maybe it was a mixed batch.
	We're not going.
	See, you're bringing it into detail.
	I know, but there's no scenario where I'm going to be considering a girl without properly vetting her.
	And by vetting her, I mean, what's her sexual history?
	Within the realm of your normal body count.
	Her body count is.
	Okay, she checks all your boxes, whatever.
	This is how, you know, it's funny because the questions that are the hard questions that like you ask or Brian, or I'm sorry, or Andrew asks, this is like what you're doing right now is how you see it.
	You're avoiding.
	You're avoiding a direct answer.
	Because you're trying to get more information out of us and make it more complicated than the actual answer.
	He's fighting his own game.
	It's okay.
	I mean, I just don't think it's hypothetical.
	Hold on, hold on.
	It's not a hypothetical.
	It's just like, well, Brian, how long would you wait for a prostitute?
	I wouldn't date a prostitute.
	But that's not what the question was.
	I know, I know.
	But guess what, Brian?
	Some of them are.
	But I'm saying.
	How would you bring yourself?
	Well, I don't really know.
	Okay, but I'm saying in all instances, I would have a conversation with the girl.
	Right.
	So there's not a scenario.
	We don't need the storyline, Brian.
	There's not a scenario, Brian.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Okay, just to be.
	Okay, I'll give you a simple answer.
	Three to four dates.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Three to four dates.
	That's all I needed.
	All I needed, Brian, was an answer.
	As soon as I start taking her seriously.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You would, you would be like, okay, like, when would it happen?
	As soon as I started taking her seriously.
	So it could be after one date, could be after two, could be after five.
	I'd say it'd probably be at least two dates.
	Okay.
	But when I was like, this is somebody I could take seriously, you don't have a completely clean sexual record.
	If you did, if she's a virgin, then I'm happy to wait as long as she wants to.
	Until marriage?
	Yeah, I'd be happy to do that.
	But the marriage would happen pretty quickly, though.
	That wouldn't be what I'd do.
	So you would marry a virgin very quickly?
	Yeah, yeah.
	If I knew that she was legit.
	Oh my God, are you going to get her examined like they did in the old days?
	I was just going to ask that.
	Or do you just take their word for it?
	Oh, gosh.
	No, I think homage can break if you like riding a horse count.
	That's back to what happened to me.
	I hope that they're telling the truth.
	Let's get around the table on this one, Hedda.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for answering my question.
	Sure.
	But, but.
	Lol Paladins donated $200 and two seconds.
	According to style/slash mystery method, ancient wisdom from old school prerequisites.
	The ideal answer is 10 hours spread out over at least two locations.
	But total date number is irrelevant.
	That's a good word.
	Lol Paladins, thank you, man.
	Yeah, I'd say, I mean, three to four dates.
	But if, for example, and I've been in this situation where I was dating a girl and she's like, yeah, I had a couple, I've had hookups.
	I've hooked up with a guy quickly, whatever, had a couple relationships.
	So we're looking at body count like around 10, maybe more than 10.
	And they're like, well, I want to wait now.
	And that's fine.
	You can do that.
	But I can also feel like, yeah, that's kind of a raw deal.
	Don't want to really talk to you anymore.
	Goodbye.
	Yeah.
	It's like, what game?
	Because you're like, you're basically trying to leverage sex.
	And whenever a girl is leveraging sex, that's not real.
	I mean, the more games that are played, the more you're just setting yourself up for a time.
	Look, it's a total game.
	It's a total game.
	And sometimes girls like doing that.
	Like, they enjoy leading you on like that.
	And if I say that.
	Those are not women that are ready to get married.
	Further down in the relationship.
	You said girls, not women.
	That's the main difference.
	Well, I mean, I always say, I think it's an Australian thing.
	We say girls when we're talking about basic.
	Girls.
	I like that.
	People always call me out of that.
	But, anyways, I think that if you see that, then when you're married, they're going to try and leverage it for chores and they're going to try and leverage it for absolutely everything.
	I think it's fun to have a little banter, but not like when you're married.
	A little bit of cat and fire.
	No spiders.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I just think that it's going to set you up for failure later.
	Like, okay, you're now using sex as leverage.
	You don't have any like religious justification for withholding sex.
	In your past, you've had sex relatively quickly, so you have no like moral objections to sleeping with people quickly.
	You just think, this is what I need to do, or is what ought to be done or what I'm supposed to do in order to get commitment from this man.
	And then, like, how are you going to leverage that in the future to get compliance from me in some sort of way?
	If I'm dating, I'm in my mid-30s.
	If I'm dating a woman in her 30s, it's like, okay, we've probably both had multiple relationships.
	We've probably had a couple short-term things here and there.
	We've both had sex.
	We're not virgins.
	Like, okay, what's the point in waiting at this point?
	It's one thing if she's a virgin or whatever or low body count, it's always been her standard.
	But for most women, not the case.
	They've had flings, they've had whatever.
	So if you like me, I like you.
	I don't actually, unless you have some newfound, you found Jesus, whatever, you want to wait until marriage, that's another conversation.
	I still wouldn't date you then.
	But I mean, I appreciate you answering the question the way that I asked it.
	After a little bit of coaxing.
	Brian, I do have a question though.
	There's some guys who will say, all right, if you're not a virgin, like this is the extreme part.
	If you're not a virgin, then you should let me get it because you gave it to somebody.
	Why do I have to wait?
	And I think that that's kind of, I mean, that's an extreme thing, but it's like can't people say, I'm going down a wrong path.
	I mean, isn't that what redemption is all about?
	I'm going down a wrong path.
	And I want to change.
	Like, this is not working for me.
	And I want to do something different.
	And for a man to say, oh, no, that's not fair.
	You gave it to him.
	You got to give it to me.
	Depends if you're talking about casual dating or if you're talking about more serious dating.
	No, because if you're just talking about casual dating, they go on a date or two and then he just expects it.
	Then yeah, fair enough.
	You don't have to.
	But with more serious dating, it's like if you've had sex with 50 guys and then you try and make him wait for three months, that means that he has to pay the ultimate price for it.
	Whereas so many people got it for free.
	Yeah, I mentioned like just a virgin, like she's not a virgin.
	So we don't know what the body count is, but like, so if you're not a virgin, then I should be able to get it.
	I think Brian makes a good point when he says that you have that conversation with girls because it varies from girl to girl.
	Like if she's just had relationships and they've been a number of years and they haven't worked out and a couple relationships, but she hasn't really slept around, then that's a different thing.
	Maybe she's someone who likes to have sex in the context of a relationship, and that's very different.
	But if she had her hoof aids and she slept with a bunch of guys, but now she's trying to make you wait, then you can't have your cake and eat it.
	Give away the ticket, it's gone.
	I don't fully agree with that either.
	Because I think that you can just have like a total change in like, okay, so before women.
	I'm going to tell her to speak into the.
	Sorry.
	My husband and I, when we were first dating, we hooked up.
	I hooked up as soon as he wanted to hook up.
	And then we took a little break.
	And then when we got back to dating again, I just told him like implicitly, like, I want the next and the last person that I'm with to be the person that I marry.
	And he didn't believe in marriage.
	So it took like a few weeks.
	But I'm just saying, like, it wasn't about trying to coerce him.
	It wasn't about like trying to have leverage.
	It was just like, I know that I don't want to be with somebody anymore unless that's the last person that I'm going to be with.
	And thankfully that worked out.
	But.
	Wait, so did you not have sex with him until you guys got married?
	No, I did like three weeks in.
	But I told him like, I want to marry you.
	I don't want to be with anybody else.
	And he didn't believe like you.
	He was very, very monogamous, very totally just didn't believe in marriage in like the government sense.
	And then, yeah, after like three years, he just married me.
	I have a personal anecdote kind of on this.
	I've encountered this with quite a few women.
	And usually I honestly just stop pursuing them.
	I was on this date with this woman.
	She told me the last guy, I have my notes here.
	The last guy she had hooked up with was her Airbnb host.
	She didn't know him.
	She didn't know him.
	She had just met him.
	She arrives at the house.
	They start chatting and they hook up within one hour of meeting.
	With me, though, she's a bit a little not so warm to me, a little cold.
	She wants to wait and insist we go out on dinner dates.
	Needless to say, after that first date with her, I did not pursue her past the first date.
	So she, by doing this, remember, this is the last guy she hooked up with, fucked him within an hour of meeting.
	I was already kind of turned off by that a little bit.
	You already went on a date with her.
	So we just, we met up for coffee.
	Okay.
	This was a couple years ago.
	And she told me, she told me to go with you.
	Wait, she just like flat, like, she's like, oh yeah, casually.
	No, I mean, I asked her, I was like, so tell me about the last guy you dated or whatever.
	She ended up dating him for a bit.
	But she like, she had an Airbnb in some city, goes over, gets the keys or whatever.
	He starts flirting with her, and they fuck within an hour.
	And then I'm like, okay, I kind of see what the picture is, right?
	And so now I would not, now I'm kind of like, I'd be turned off by that.
	But this is a couple years ago.
	So I was like, okay.
	I was like, so we're out for coffee.
	I'm like, you want to come back to my place?
	She's like, she was like offended.
	She was offended.
	She's like, I'd rather like go out to dinner a couple more times.
	I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
	You told me, you literally told me that you fucked a guy within an hour of meeting him.
	And you want me to take you on three, four fucking dinner dates?
	Look, women can change up.
	Men are not owed sex, but I'm allowed to be like, eh, raw deal.
	I'm out.
	Yeah.
	She probably liked the other guy because he looked attractive to her immediately.
	And she probably liked you for other reasons.
	Now you're sassy because I called you out.
	No, I'm just saying there was a lot of people who weren't going to be rewarding you.
	She wanted to get to know you for something besides.
	So she rewards the fuckboys and the guys, the guys who she's desirous of being in a long-term relationship, you make the guy who's the most deserving of women.
	You make the guy.
	Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely always plays out.
	So the guy who's most deserving of the sex, he has to wait for the sex.
	But the guys who are jerks, fuckboys, assholes, they get it immediately.
	Make it make sense.
	What made the hot air BNB guy an asshole?
	Oh, I don't know, but she fucked him quickly.
	But I mean, that's what you're saying.
	He was more attractive, whatever.
	She didn't see long-term potential in him.
	But you're saying she saw more in me, and so she wants to make me wait.
	But that's different, though, than being like, whether you want to marry me or not, I know that I don't want to be with anybody else, so I'm going to wait a little bit and make sure.
	And, you know.
	It's just weird because y'all will reward the fuckboys who will never give you commitment with immediate sex.
	And then you punish the guys worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks, months, or even until marriage.
	Like, make it make sense.
	It definitely is backwards, but I do, not but, but period.
	I think that modern day dating is very bad.
	It is absolutely terrible.
	Did I ask you something?
	What's up?
	Do you think it's that they're trying to put up a facade of being like a datable woman by not giving it up to you really quickly?
	That's, yeah, that's probably a component of it.
	You were trying to say something, right?
	Yeah.
	Wait, did you have to do that?
	Hold on.
	Do you have more?
	No, I was just asking if that would be a possibility in your mind.
	Because I think that that might be an explanation.
	Not that it's a good one, but I think it would be a manipulation tactic, maybe.
	So they're trying to give the impression that they're...
	Well, I have something on this, but go ahead.
	It doesn't sound like that.
	I think that if a woman lies to a man, then she does not respect him.
	And if she doesn't respect you, it's not going to work, period.
	So even if that was her reasoning, it's like you cut her off right away.
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to think on that.
	I mean, so it's kind of basically fraud.
	So the whole point of a woman having a waiting period before she has sex, it's supposed to be due to her not being someone that gives away sex so easily.
	So having a man wait implies that I'm not easy to get into bed.
	But it kind of just means I'm going to make you wait an arbitrary amount of time because I want to give you the impression that I'm not quick to give out sex, but in reality, I am just not for you.
	So.
	And women will actually do this.
	some women, not all women, they'll be sleeping with a guy who's a friends with benefits all the while simultaneously pursuing a guy for long-term commitment, making him wait, withholding from him while fucking, we have something on this that there was like a really interesting Reddit post that came.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	That looks like extremely disrespectful to the man though.
	I'm trying to see if I can find it.
	Wait.
	That's just not the reason though that why all women their perspective on that and make a guy or whatever wait.
	Austin, I'm going to put it in the private chat if you want to get it pulled up for us.
	Thank you, Austin.
	We're going to react to this, then we're going to move on to another topic.
	And then we'll do Twitch after this one, okay, Austin?
	We'll pull it up super quick.
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	Right, Jake?
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	I don't know.
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	Can you do open a new tab?
	Yeah.
	I don't want it within the Dropbox if possible.
	And then F11.
	Okay, can I have you read this one?
	I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information, question mark.
	I've recently gone official with a man I've been dating for a couple months.
	He's kind, respectful, and considerate, and I really think he could be the one.
	But something is eating at me.
	I wanted to build slowly with this man so we didn't become intimate until after going exclusive.
	But between the first date and that point, I did see an old friends with benefits a couple of times.
	Back then, I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive, but I underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend.
	And I feel almost like I have cheated on him.
	Have I done something wrong?
	Do I need to tell him?
	Will he end things with me?
	You can read the update part.
	Yeah.
	The update was, there was mixed reactions here, but my gut told me that I should tell my boyfriend.
	He said, sorry, I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that, then blocked me on everything.
	It's dealing with the consequences.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	W.
	I have an answer or a response.
	Sure.
	Sure, go ahead.
	I think that everyone has different morals of what they think are right and wrong.
	And if something in your gut says something's wrong, then you should say something.
	You know, if it felt like a lie and like she cheated, then it's great to have the dialogue with that.
	Even if it ended bad, then what?
	She's waiting in this relationship and saying anything.
	I think it's more to the point of, like, what you said before is actually very accurate.
	That if she doesn't respect you, then, like, a woman would never do that to a man that she respected.
	Would make him wait while going and getting a little bit of a drink.
	By some Chad.
	Like, if she respected him and she thought of him as, you know.
	What I meant by she was saying, is this wrong or right?
	And I was like, if it feels wrong in her gut.
	She was right to tell him, yes.
	Yeah, she respected him enough to deal with the consequences of telling him the truth.
	And he respected himself.
	Austin, can you pull up Twitch for us?
	Do we have other Reacts too, by the way?
	I feel like we might have had some stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow on the Prime sub.
	Guys, there's 1,600 of you watching on Twitch.
	If you're not following, do us a favor.
	Drop us a follow.
	And can you guys just check if you have a Prime sub available?
	Would be much appreciated.
	It's a quick-free way to support the show.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you just link it to your Twitch.
	Super easy way to support the show every single month.
	So appreciate all you guys who watch over there on Twitch.
	Thank you guys.
	And then let's see here.
	We have, oh, also Discord.
	Discord.gg, if you can pull that up, go to the behind the scenes tab.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	And guys, we posted the BTS of the girl that we had to kick out on Tuesday.
	She's being obnoxious.
	Wild kick out.
	This girl was just terrible troll, but she was trolling nonetheless.
	So if you want to see it, check it out.
	It's in the Discord.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Okay.
	Let's see, let's get into, what were some of the reacts, Austin?
	You said.
	Tell me what we have.
	So we have the men's rating guy, the woman's rating guy.
	And then we have this random chase Instagram.
	Another tattoo.
	Another girl's Instagram.
	Another tattoo thing.
	What's the other tattoo thing?
	Oh.
	I think she's like wearing a brown, light brown shirt.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Let's do the two tweets here from Brenna.
	Bren Brent.
	The hottest thing a man can do is be a little scared of me.
	What's the explanation here?
	I'm just, I have a lot of humor on my Twitter.
	I'm a very dry humor kind of person, so I was probably just making a joke.
	Okay.
	What's the next?
	There's just one other tweet, right?
	Going to sit next to the richest-looking middle-aged man on my flight and scroll through my nudes for three hours.
	Wait, I thought you didn't have nudes.
	I told you, I do have implied nudes.
	Implied.
	What's implied nudes?
	And also dick sucking and other stuff.
	But you're not going to admit to the dick sucking, but it's okay.
	You're a fucking liar!
	You're a fucking liar!
	Disappointing.
	What's implied nudes versus normal nudes?
	I'm just curious.
	I like to differentiate it because I think a lot of people think of OnlyFans nudity, like straight up, like spreading your legs to the camera.
	And I do some content where it's like allowed on Instagram type content.
	Like nothing.
	It's a secure kind of sheet you put over the.
	Yeah, like stuff like that.
	Stuff that you would see on Instagram.
	Austin, private chat.
	This is, I can pull this up.
	All right, go ahead.
	Private chat.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Let me just double check that that's double check and make sure it's okay.
	Is it okay?
	It's just the tattoos, right?
	All right, pull it up real quick.
	Okay.
	Brenna, is this you?
	Is this your tattoo?
	Looks like my tattoo, yeah.
	Okay, so we can't show the video because we're on YouTube and Twitch.
	You already talked about how the tattoo matched.
	In this video, which we had to censor, you are filating an individual, someone male, a male, penis, and you are he's blasting in your mouth.
	That's, I said it.
	Blasting in the mouth.
	Brenna, do you want to just fess the fuck up and stop being a fucking liar?
	We might have to go through the subtle nuances of the tattoo.
	Bro, if we can pull it up and look at the lights.
	I can definitely confirm now that didn't happen.
	After that, you showed me.
	Can you walk over here and I can pull up the video with these little videos?
	I'm not really comfortable with that.
	Okay, you know what?
	I was rooting for you.
	I was.
	Can I look at the video and confirm if it's her or not?
	Yeah, come over here.
	Come over here.
	I just need to know now.
	Let me see if I can.
	I'm just kidding.
	Actually, let me see if I can find it here.
	I feel like male's perspective sometimes is a little bit more.
	Sorry, like, Jaded, I don't really care.
	I believe you, Brennan.
	Thank you.
	I'm very gullible, I've been told, but I do.
	Like, I'm going to trust you.
	I honestly don't care if y'all believe me or not.
	The only thing that's really annoying me is that there's probably heaps and heaps of guys running over to your only fans right now Subscribe.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's the effect that it'll have.
	Yeah.
	This is what I hear.
	Either way.
	I don't think this is encouraging that.
	Well, I don't know.
	And I'm not going to watch it because I don't want to.
	I mean, I'm definitely going to look into this a lot after the podcast to see if there really is something like that out there.
	I wouldn't be to my knowledge, and I've never knowingly recorded something like that.
	But, I mean, it's just a simple thing.
	You could just peep over there and say, nope, that's not me.
	Like, if it was, like, do you know how traumatizing that would be to me?
	I don't want to sit here on a podcast and like realize something like that could have happened to me and then have like oh, so you're saying that it could have happened and you didn't know.
	Then that's it.
	I don't think so.
	I really don't think so.
	But I don't, I wouldn't want to see myself like that.
	Somebody like that.
	That's something different.
	If that's something, if you didn't know, then, you know, I think you should still want to know because that's a crime.
	I will look after the podcast.
	I don't want to sit here and feel like.
	All right.
	I showed her the video.
	What's the census?
	What's the census?
	She's going to get in.
	So we got expert witness here.
	Why are you drawing?
	It's you in the video.
	W. Say it again.
	Say it again.
	It's you in the video.
	100%.
	Eyebrows, nose, hands.
	I mean, I was an analyst in the military.
	I look at people's physical features all the time.
	She analyzed.
	Tattoo everything.
	So it could not be, unless you have a doppelganger twin somewhere.
	But is it filmed as if she knows it's being filmed?
	Like, it's filmed from a downward angle of a man.
	Does it have like the eye?
	But it has her old name.
	She admitted that the OnlyFans.
	And she said it was her book.
	It wasn't like that.
	The Watermark is telling me.
	I don't get it.
	I don't know.
	It's not my watermark.
	That would be such an elaborate.
	You said the names don't match.
	No, no.
	I asked you if it was your watermark and you said yes.
	No, it's not my watermark.
	My OnlyFans name is Renee Richards.
	You said it has a nice thing.
	So you changed it.
	Yeah.
	We heard you.
	You said she was right, Brinkley or whatever it is?
	Yeah.
	You did say that.
	You said yes, it was.
	No, I did have that name for a time.
	Just say you had it already.
	Oh, just fucking fuss up.
	Just say it.
	If she fusses up, can we leave it right there?
	No one comment if she fusses up.
	How about that?
	If she fesses up, can we leave it there?
	Giant L.
	It's different when a male is evaluating a video because you guys are not really the greatest at being able to tell facial features.
	You can show two different women and they could just assume that it was the same person, but I'm pretty good at being able to discern.
	She was in the military for crying out.
	You have a very distinguishable nose.
	You have very distinguishable nose.
	Very distinguishable nose.
	Facial fingers.
	Do you know what was right next to your nose?
	A penis.
	A penis.
	$200.02.
	Look.
	Look.
	That's a Marine.
	She knows a lot of people.
	Templarify, motherfucker.
	The Marine wouldn't lie.
	Especially about something that important.
	Not important.
	I actually didn't even look at the penis.
	You didn't even look at the penis.
	Talked about her.
	I was just looking at her face.
	The tattoo.
	Fingernails and the tattoo.
	But if you ever saw that penis, you'd be able to recognize it.
	Exactly.
	Who's sounding?
	I have no idea.
	We've got, this is the fucking CIA right here, bro.
	We've got fucking figured out, bruv.
	I mean, it is scaring the shit out of me.
	I hope I don't find out there's something out there like that.
	My friend is OnlyFans.
	You can't just get shit posted on your account.
	I can't waste more time on this, but you're.
	You're a fucking liar!
	You're a fucking liar!
	All right.
	Alexis.
	I'm 33, married with four kids, stay-at-home mom, homeschooling, working full-time from home.
	Extremely traditional conservativeism isn't spiritual religious.
	But 13 years ago, I was a bikini barista calendar girl, and I ended up going into deep into addiction.
	And years ago, I was a high-end escort.
	Ooh, sinner.
	Sinner.
	Wait, that wasn't?
	No.
	Oh, that sounded really biased considering you came at me for that earlier about Christian values.
	Did you hear what I said about morally bankrupting yourself?
	You were an escort.
	Shut up.
	She's changed.
	She acknowledged that.
	It's okay.
	No, she said she didn't want it said on the podcast, but Brian just said it.
	Okay, but do you think that sounds like an hypocrite?
	I feel like you're just mad you weren't honest up front.
	I'm mad because you talked about it.
	I think God would not have to be afraid.
	Not you, just anyone.
	Do you think God would judge an escort?
	Yes.
	So you're not justifying the sin.
	No, I was like, exactly.
	That's the difference.
	That's the difference is you're not justifying it versus someone else who is justifying it.
	Because that's the whole point of the Bible.
	Redemption.
	No, go ahead.
	Keep going.
	Sorry, so sorry.
	Redemption and salvation.
	As someone in recovery, I hear that.
	It's different.
	I've done so many weird things, you know?
	It's about not continuing a harmful pattern, which I think you're actively contributing towards continuing a harmful pattern.
	Whereas this girl across the table has learned from it and found Jesus and changed, yeah.
	Whether whatever you did, I still believe you can be a Christian and stuff.
	I don't agree with your views that God doesn't accept people who do certain things.
	So I'm just saying you're not going to be able to do that.
	I don't think that that has anything to do with being saved.
	I think that there's a difference, though, between living as a Christian and doing that type of thing.
	And like, here's the thing.
	There's a difference because, like I said, I did say right here that you can do something transactional and make a lot of money off of it and get, you know, and physically live a certain type of lifestyle and you are morally bankrupting yourself.
	I said that.
	And I mean, come on, anybody can infer what does transactional mean.
	And that was a very brief period of my life.
	And I was very uncomfortable and in a bad place when I did it.
	I don't think it's right.
	I wouldn't.
	And you're not justifying it.
	And here's the thing.
	Okay, if we look at the Bible, Mary Magdalene, right?
	She was a prostitute.
	She stopped what she was doing because it was wrong.
	God did judge her, and he judges all of us for all of our actions.
	So to say that he doesn't care is not true because if he didn't care, then why would Mary Magdalene stop?
	I'm not a prostitute.
	I'm saying I love him.
	There's definitely no evidence.
	Okay, but Rahab, though, Rahab was a harlot, and she has a lot of mentions in the Bible.
	And she also is in the lineage of Jesus.
	So, yes, she married into, you know, the Judaism, Christian faith at the time.
	And she changed her life.
	And, you know, some man that was a Jew found value in her as a person because of what she did.
	And she's in the line of Jesus.
	She's mentioned in his, you know, genealogy.
	I think it's horrible.
	I think it's super wrong to do it.
	I think that it I carry baggage and weight and guilt for my lifestyle.
	But you take accountability.
	I don't, so don't put that on me because I already said I don't feel boring.
	But you said you were a kinky Christian.
	Okay.
	I said I don't feel morally bankrupt.
	You don't feel morally bankrupt.
	You're not admitting to a video that you're in.
	How is that not morally bankrupting you?
	Clearly, something in you is not comfortable with sharing something you did.
	I didn't do that.
	Okay.
	I mean, that's an old convo, but the point is, I don't think she.
	So three people are lying saw it.
	You know what?
	I've watched a lot of police interrogation videos.
	You know.
	And you, like, you're not behaving like an innocent person.
	When people are innocent, they're like, I'm innocent.
	Ah!
	No, no, I need to put it in.
	And you're just sitting there.
	And then, like, but the people, that person who like actually did it, they're so calm.
	You notice that?
	Like, the ones who are.
	I've actually seen those videos on YouTube where they say the innocent people are really irate.
	Yes, they are irate.
	They're crazy.
	And the ones who are calm that are just like, okay, if there was a video of me online that I didn't put out there, I would have left, checked my phone, and figured it out immediately.
	I'm getting more photos, more videos.
	You are full of shit.
	You're a fucking lying.
	I'm sorry, but if I just found out that someone's posting deep fakes of me online, I would have left the podcast, called the figured something out for you.
	I would be freaked out.
	I wouldn't just be sitting here just, oh, like, let's talk about the next thing.
	I'm not sorry.
	Can I also address something that maybe this is a reason why girls shouldn't do OnlyFans?
	Because let's say you didn't do it, right?
	You are now, because of those pictures of you, now this video is there that you're claiming is not real.
	So you put yourself at risk by doing OnlyFans and doing that type of content.
	And now you're a target.
	Yeah, but the difference is I don't care.
	If there is a video out there like that, I wouldn't care.
	So then just admit that it's you and the other person.
	Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
	Did you show her the video?
	She said she didn't want to see it.
	She doesn't want to see it.
	I'll look at it after the podcast was over.
	She doesn't want to see it.
	Look, she's a liar.
	It is what it is.
	You know what's funny to me?
	And I was thinking about this, though.
	We've had like a couple of OnlyFans girls do this sort of charade or whatever.
	And it's like, I've actually heard from some of these OnlyFans girls, and the OnlyFans girls who come on and they're like, just they're honest and they have base takes or whatever, but they're, you know, whatever.
	They're still being degenerate.
	Like, I think they actually tend to do better than the girls who come on and just lie and just try to pander.
	They want to do better.
	Like, what do you mean by that?
	They'll actually like get more followers.
	I'm not on here trying to get followers or viewers.
	For what other reason would you come on the show?
	To promote my lingerie brand is the original reason.
	So, okay, you're trying to get more followers so that you can promote your lingerie brand.
	How many people do you need?
	Bro, what?
	Wait, you're on here to promote your fucking lingerie brand?
	What the fuck?
	You realize, like, the majority of the audience is like 90% do that.
	If I was going to promote anything, that's what it would be.
	It's not on here to promote my OnlyFans, but I came on here to have.
	Bro, in August of 2024, there's a photo of you.
	Bro, I don't even want to.
	You're full of shit.
	That's pretty much it.
	She swore to God too.
	Next topic?
	Maybe?
	God-fearing, conservative OF girl.
	Kinky Christian.
	I fear God's fucking fucking toaster brain.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, so no, anyways, getting back to your notes here, I could be wrong.
	I don't recall anywhere in the notes you saying you didn't want any of this stuff to come up.
	It's possible you did.
	Whatever.
	You what?
	It's all good.
	But like, pretty much.
	Honestly, but at least you're taking ownership of it, and that is the exact difference.
	I actually sent that to Brian before I even discussed being on the show.
	And then I had said, like, I feel like people need to talk about the consequences that they carry that baggage.
	I wish you would have more people on.
	I wasn't talking about myself.
	I was like, I wish you would have more people on that would, you know, be real about, because so many girls come on and act like, I'm fine with it.
	It's great.
	It doesn't affect me.
	And I just don't believe that.
	I think that's a lie.
	So you also said there's so much regret, so much shame, so much degradation in sexualizing yourself in any way from money or retention.
	The consequences do last forever.
	If possible, you should get some women on the show who were in and got out and are bold enough to be honest about the effects being in an industry like that will have on their future relationships and other aspects of their life.
	These girls are putting on a bold front.
	They're living out trauma.
	And for other young, impressionable girls watching, I think it would be powerful and responsible to expose some of the darker aspects of OF, adult content, et cetera.
	Absolutely.
	Thanks.
	100%.
	So, yeah.
	You said that you're.
	Did you used to do adult content or was it more like the Bikini barista?
	It was like I was a bikini barista.
	And then, okay, as far as that escorting, I was more or less like a couple sugar daddies.
	But I consider it to be, God, I have kids.
	That's kind of why I was like, but prostitution.
	You know what I mean?
	That's what I consider it to be.
	And yeah, being a big person.
	So, like, what she does?
	Allegedly.
	Whatever.
	I don't know.
	Why are you looking?
	Bro, you know you do this shit.
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	Allegedly.
	Allegedly.
	And yeah, you should regret it.
	And if you don't regret it, you become very calloused.
	You become very, I think you're selling your soul in order to.
	But also, not taking accountability.
	It's like a slippery slope and it starts bleeding into other aspects of your life and you make excuse after excuse after excuse.
	And then eventually you just do whatever you want.
	And nothing else.
	Right.
	But if you don't think that God judges you, then it's you're holding yourself to a different standard.
	That's true.
	And like I said, I don't think it has anything to do with God loving you.
	I just think like God has, okay, if you're a Christian and you look at things from, you know, a biblical perspective, God has these rules and these things that we call sin in place to protect us.
	You know?
	I will say in your defense, I don't think that your parents did a good job of teaching you that there are consequences for your actions.
	And that's why you don't think that God is going to judge you because your parents didn't judge you.
	I honestly, I think that your parents failed in that.
	Well, that's your opinion.
	Like, that doesn't really matter to me because I'm a very happy person.
	Like, I've never been happier in my life.
	And I love my parents.
	I'm so happy.
	I'm a serial killer and be happy.
	Well, I'm not.
	And I'm really grateful for the way my parents raised me and who I am today.
	Escort.
	And they lying.
	I'm just very surprised because when I, I mean, not that I surround myself with a lot of sex workers or anything, but I see you and I'm like, I think you're absolutely stunning in the way that you present yourself.
	And it blows my mind.
	And the only thing I can think of, it blows my mind that you're doing that.
	Brian, Brian, I don't need your side commentary, okay?
	And it blows my mind because the only thing I can think is you actually thoroughly enjoy it, but then it's the other hand because you're not taking ownership of something that is the white elephant in the room.
	No more attention.
	She gets no more attention.
	I gotta cut her.
	She wants exactly what she wants.
	And maybe so.
	And maybe so.
	Let me go find her video.
	We've played into her bullshit purpose.
	And you know, almost looking at it.
	And if that's it, she enjoys what she does, and it's a business, you know, it's got its business purposes.
	And, you know, we can say jokes on us, you know what I mean?
	But at the end of the day, she bamboozled us all.
	Okay, back to your notes here.
	We might get a $1,000 donation if you just admit it.
	I bet.
	Right?
	I mean, because you passed it in.
	You got the dupe smirk on your face.
	Like, literally, you're smirking.
	But I thought you just said that you would do photos for free.
	So what does $1,000 matter to you?
	I'm joking.
	Lighten up.
	Light up, Francis.
	She literally has the dupe smirk on her face.
	You know what, I need to thank her.
	You're laughing at all of us, girl.
	Oh, God, please don't laugh.
	Thank her for her service.
	Thank you.
	No, thank you.
	Thank you for your service.
	Say it.
	Thank you for your service.
	Say it like you mean it.
	Say it with your chest.
	Thank you for your service.
	Yeah, or don't say it with your chest.
	Keep those away.
	All right, going over to you.
	No.
	Seriously, I'm not being serious.
	Okay.
	You ever look at somebody and you're like, what is it?
	There's just nothing behind the eyes.
	I actually, I actually thought you were going to see me when I came on here.
	You thought what?
	I thought you were going to like me, like as a person.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Hold on.
	I like you.
	You haven't rage quit and you've been taken.
	No, you haven't just quit.
	And you're taking a heap.
	I don't know what the point is.
	You're going to make sense of what you do.
	I think it's good.
	It's good publicity for the show because finally your panel that's actually interacted with.
	Wow, there's a lot of people.
	The last few shows, this panel is interacting as a whole.
	I mean, not discrediting the show, but the last two shows.
	This is what I was saying.
	This one just was a really good one.
	We need to move on.
	I know we got to move on.
	We've got to move on.
	She loves it.
	This is what she's doing.
	None of you guys understand me at all.
	You don't understand yourself, lady.
	If somebody had a video of me online and I didn't know what she wanted to ask me, let it go.
	This is already tico.
	I'm going to do it.
	Let me say it.
	If somebody had a video of me online and then I didn't know about it and then they brought it up at the table.
	I wouldn't be sitting at this.
	I would be free.
	You're sitting there like smiling because I was used to it.
	I'm just used to people treating me like that.
	Treating like you, like what?
	Like an escort?
	No, like a liar.
	Like judging me for like OF.
	I need to do that.
	I don't know.
	No, here's the crazy thing.
	I don't think anyone's judging on that.
	It was just a question.
	And now it's like now if we have an OF girl on and she's honest, even if she like disagrees with our viewpoints, worldview, if she's honest, that's 100% respectable.
	We've had women who, I mean, it's looking like the evidence.
	Hold on.
	The evidence is pointing, allegedly towards you being a full-blown fucking escort.
	We've had women on who work at brothels, who've had thousands, thousands, miles of penis.
	And they come on and they're cool and they're honest.
	And we show them respect.
	Maybe we joke about the mileage of the penis they've had, but that's the extent of it.
	But like to come on and lie.
	You're a fucking liar.
	You're a fucking liar.
	Rebuked.
	I just want to say, I'm personally not judging you.
	A lot of my friends.
	No, no, no, no.
	Gotta move it on.
	Okay, back to you.
	Okay, great.
	God, back to you.
	You fucking spawn of Satan you.
	Not you, her.
	So, okay, you're a Christian.
	Yes.
	And your husband, he's not religious or a Christian.
	No, he's not.
	You said he's got like seven felonies from the past and can be pretty wild even.
	You don't have to read all that.
	But very much by choice.
	I'm sorry, I was just saying it was in the notes.
	It was in the notes.
	Okay, go ahead.
	You met him through his lawyer, who at the time, I guess, I was dating.
	Wait.
	Yeah.
	I met him.
	And you said, I guess I was just with the lawyer for the money, being honest.
	Wait, you dated his lawyer.
	That's not home.
	So she was dating the lawyer, and then you met him for defense.
	He's a criminal defense lawyer.
	That's why he has seven felons.
	I'm practicing criminal defense a lot.
	But yes, I met my husband through lawyer.
	His lawyer.
	His criminal defense lawyer.
	Yeah, you like walk into his work and be like, here, honey, here's your lunch.
	And then you search.
	No, hey, I'm not sure.
	But she made the lawyer white as well.
	The felon hit it straight away.
	It could be.
	But you said you were with a lawyer for the money, to be honest.
	Yes.
	Why did you date the lawyer?
	It was like a, you know, kind of sugar daddy-ish situation.
	Okay, ish.
	Did he know this?
	So technically your husband is.
	Oh, those men were paying you at the same time because he was paying the lawyer.
	And then the lawyer was paying you as a sugar daddy.
	So you.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Circle of life.
	Circle of life, right?
	Can I ask why you didn't want that road?
	Why I didn't want Brey brought up?
	Yeah.
	Oh, because I'm a mom.
	But then why did you text him?
	I'm just.
	Because I was telling him this stuff before.
	I was.
	I don't know about that part.
	I just didn't.
	I don't care about that part.
	I'm fine with that part.
	It was just the other stuff that I was hoping to not be.
	Don't ever put anything out to any podcast.
	It doesn't matter that much.
	Obviously, I wouldn't have told him if I didn't think it might come out.
	It came out in braces, I would say.
	Yeah, I wouldn't have told him if I didn't think it might have come out.
	But at the time, I was saying, hey, I used to do this, and it really bothers me that so many people make it look glamorous.
	But also, in fairness, you didn't want it coming out through the chat, right?
	If like somebody that was watching, you didn't know what to do.
	I was hoping that maybe I was just like, oh, I like your show, and I just wish that I could see people more like me on there, but not me.
	But you know what?
	Honestly, I have made it.
	That's okay.
	Yeah, I was just going to say, like, I feel incredibly brave.
	Trying to get back to the notes here.
	You said one of the first things he ever told me is he had no interest in dating girls.
	This is your now husband, I believe.
	Yeah.
	We were pretty much all sluts and terrible people, lol.
	And he hadn't even looked twice at a girl in five years.
	So I was very intrigued.
	Was this after he called all women sluts or before?
	Yeah, no, like one of our first interactions, like I went to his house and did he have an ankle bracelet?
	Not a bracelet, the ankle monitor or whatever?
	No, this was before, this was during the case.
	Okay.
	And I was still, I was with a lawyer.
	Anyways, and yeah, he was just like, women are gross.
	He had a baby's mom from five years.
	And he was like, I haven't been with a girl for five years.
	I don't like girls really because they're, you know, and he's like, especially girls in our.
	He doesn't like girls as any likes.
	No, as in he didn't like.
	Okay, so he was hurt.
	He was like hurt by somebody.
	Yeah, his baby's mom left him.
	He's straight, just to be clear.
	100%.
	Okay, okay, just that's what I was assuming.
	Yeah, a million percent.
	Yeah.
	So his original first baby's mom had left him and dipped out and left him with two daughters.
	One of them was like two or three weeks old at the time.
	And, you know, so after that, he just pretty much was like, I have my daughters.
	I have my girls.
	And I'm not interested in women at all.
	And I'm like, okay.
	You know, I wasn't trying to.
	Is he still his lawyer?
	That's what I always, okay.
	No, no, no.
	I was like, that's maybe why I got the felony.
	Over a very like.
	What did the lawyer find out?
	Yeah.
	What?
	That we got together?
	Yeah.
	What happened?
	Well, essentially, my husband didn't get, me and my husband didn't get together until after the lawyer lost the case.
	And my husband went to jail for episode NCIS.
	Who got mad at him?
	And he lost the case.
	He lost the case for my husband.
	And my husband thought he did it like kind of on purpose because he kind of knew that we had a lawyer lost the case intentionally, because he knew that you were seeing.
	Well, I wasn't seeing him yet, but I think he had an indication that I liked him.
	Were you cheating on him or you talked about it before you got with the?
	Uh, I wasn't cheating on him um, but I just gosh liked he could tell that I was interested.
	We sat on this table.
	I never.
	How do you go from dating a lawyer to interacting with one of his criminal defense?
	Okay so, as I said, I have a past.
	The lawyer knew that I had an issue with substance abuse.
	Okay, and that's how I met my husband.
	I don't understand how the next lawyer would introduce your past.
	Were you the lawyer's client as well?
	No or no, I was dating him.
	So there, did you meet the husband through the lawyer?
	Yeah, the lawyer knew that I had an issue with substance abuse and he was like, hey, I have this client, you're lying no, and he definitely does that stuff and he thought it was a good idea to introduce y'all.
	What a guy.
	I don't think he understood.
	Whatever you are lawyer, I'm not sure quiet referrals right there, like I, there would be any possibility whatsoever that I would.
	That guy's punching the air so muddy it's.
	Why do we know if he's okay?
	Do we know the lawyer's okay?
	I have no idea.
	I'm sure he's fine.
	I just I can't.
	The amends is to understand being a lawyer and introducing criminal.
	You guys both have you know.
	This is my girlfriend who was also comment.
	Let me introduce y'all like were you like kicking it at the office and you saw your now husband walk in?
	No okay, you're like god damn bro, let me no.
	What actually happened is, um, we met in the Red Robin parking lot for the first time ever.
	Wow, did a deal.
	Oh oh, Red Robin parking lot.
	After he's like, oh, maybe you like lawyer.
	Ex-lawyer guy said ex-lawyers said that my ex he was like trying to be voice, like oh me was like you up waiting for trying to give you drugs whoa, I thought he was like trying to get.
	Oh no, she wins, she wins, you win this.
	The American justice system, these are who represents whoever this lawyer is, she needs to be disbarred.
	Your lawyer should not.
	Your lawyer should be disbarred.
	A situation like that.
	I don't want to talk about anything about that because that's not, you know, that's not any of my business at this point.
	Maybe it was a cuck.
	The lawyer.
	What is that?
	Like, he wanted to be cucked by one of his criminal gets off on having a bad thing.
	I think what it was is like he genuinely knew that I was, you know, an addict and he was just trying to get like points or something.
	By like, oh, hey, I've got this client that would be a good idea.
	That man didn't really like you.
	Wow.
	What he was wearing?
	Yeah, he was like, no, I didn't really like him either, though.
	You know?
	This story is wild.
	Yo, chat, what do you think about the story?
	That's crazy.
	I'd say lawyer's fault now.
	You shouldn't have put someone in a position where they're just in fault for their own actions.
	We met.
	I think everyone is a part of it for sure.
	Was it nighttime or daytime?
	It was nighttime when we first met.
	Was like the parking lot did they have those like flickering lights where the lights were all fucked up?
	It was very ghetto.
	She was in a trip.
	If I could say not working for her.
	It was very ghetto.
	Was there somebody like ODing behind the dumpsters?
	No, it wasn't like that.
	That felon must have had a Riz.
	Imagine like knowing he's being charged and then he still gets you.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	I was over the lawyer.
	I thought the first time I met him, well, he thought I was like working for the cops and I thought he was going to jack me.
	That was like the first time that we met.
	This is some Shakespeare love story shit right here.
	Well, so okay, you said you were used to simps.
	This is after, you know, he said all these things.
	You said you were used to simps and he genuinely didn't want anything from me and had zero interest.
	Yeah, except money and as a connect for drugs.
	Yeah.
	And I had a policy too, like I'm not going to date David.
	Oh, you were buying illicit substances from him.
	Yes.
	From the lawyer?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	From my wait, is that why your lawyer got you linked up?
	Because you were trying to 2024 love stories go crazy.
	I thought it was more wholesome.
	Like that's what I thought.
	You mentioned she dropped the ball.
	Okay, I missed that part.
	The lawyer was like, I got a client who can score you some oh.
	Holy shit, that's what I said.
	He did not say that.
	I stand behind my stand when he used to get disturbed.
	Hold on, I'm going to send something crazy for this one.
	I was going to say something, but I'm just going to.
	Destroy the whatever podcast.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	When we finally did go out together on our first date, which basically only happened because he was pissed at the lawyer initially, we got pulled over and we both got arrested.
	Oh, my God.
	Yes.
	That actually happened.
	Yes.
	Story time.
	You did a lot of jungle girls.
	I have this story.
	Gotta.
	Okay.
	How long have y'all been together?
	Like 12, 13 years.
	Wait, there's more.
	I had a warrant.
	They let him go.
	I pocketed all his cash.
	He sat on his dash in his car and bailed myself out of jail a couple days later with his money.
	He was waiting outside.
	Hold on, let me just.
	He was waiting outside the jail for me at midnight when I finally got out.
	We were boyfriend, girlfriend after that, and I cleaned up my life for him.
	What was your warrant for?
	Probably possession.
	And then I just didn't go to court for it.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Damn, this is okay.
	There's a lot we could get into, but it would be better with him.
	Maybe we should have.
	We should have had him.
	We should have maybe had him on the show.
	But it's okay.
	At times, he solely supported our family.
	At times, I have.
	We've been together 11 years, married six.
	He is very uncensored, opinion person.
	That was me trying to get him to come on with me.
	Children are here right currently.
	No, he's got kids in Washington.
	We have four fifths on the way.
	Yeah, and then he has two daughters from a previous relationship.
	That's crazy.
	That's cool.
	But, you know, there's a point, there's a moral.
	Yeah, don't you dress.
	That's part of it, bro.
	Can I ask, what does he do now?
	He is a carpenter, foreman in the union.
	That's respect.
	That's awesome.
	That's respectful.
	And he's had a lot of good jobs.
	Did you guys recover together?
	I know this.
	Yeah, I got into recovery first.
	And then he eventually did, too.
	Cool.
	That's sweet.
	That's sweet.
	I like that.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Crazy, unique dating stories.
	My husband got arrested first date.
	Oh, you told, okay, you said that.
	Marriage hooking up right away when you have, you may have had a promiscuous past.
	Oh, these are disagreements.
	So marriage, you have a disagreement there.
	What's your disagreement there?
	Oh, with you on marriage.
	Just because like my husband has the same viewpoint as you, and I just think like that.
	Oh, so like I said, I told him, well, I want to get married to you.
	Like I love you, and that's really important for me and I value that.
	And he was like, well, it's not happening.
	And I was like, okay.
	So then like three years later, he did.
	And he says like he won't really say that it and because he's still not religious, you know.
	But he says it definitely hits differently, I guess.
	You know?
	Marriage hits.
	Yeah, yeah, like it's just different.
	It's different.
	It's more of a different type of bond than just, you know.
	And so you, and if I recall correctly, like you, you stopped having sex with him because you're like, we need to get married.
	Kind of.
	No.
	Well, for three weeks, you stopped having sex with him.
	So no, no, no, that's not what happened.
	So I got sober and he was still not.
	And then, you know, we weren't together.
	It's not that we didn't, I didn't want to be with him or he didn't even want to be with me, but like your priorities and your values obviously change.
	And I just couldn't be with him while he was doing all that.
	And then when he got sober is when I said, you know, we linked back up.
	And I was like, I want to be with you and I want to get married to you.
	I just don't want to, I don't want to do this unless I know for sure that that's where we're going to be.
	Are you religious?
	You're Christian.
	I am.
	Yes.
	But so your disagreements are as far as a marriage goes.
	I don't know.
	I really, if a girl came to me and was like, I was dating her and she's like, Brian, gives me an ultimatum.
	You got to get married to me.
	Are you guys familiar with the Pantera song?
	Critically acclaimed Pantera song, Walk.
	You know, you know, Pantera?
	Really?
	Gen Z, 18-year-old?
	Sorry, 20-year-old listens to Pantera?
	Okay, that good props.
	Walk.
	Walk.
	I'd say like, okay, oh my god, this is so cringe.
	I'm sorry.
	I would play.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't even know where I was going to say that.
	I would play the Pantera song walk, walk, goodbye.
	I'm not marrying you, chick.
	Here's the thing: my husband said, I'm not marrying you.
	And I said, okay, well, I hope you change your mind.
	And we stayed together for three years after that.
	And then eventually one day he's like, okay, it's time to get married.
	And I didn't have to like push it or convince him or anything.
	But I convinced him that I'm committed to him and I love him.
	So basically, it's not so much like I disagree with you.
	I just think that any girl that would, you know, I'm encouraging that if a girl did care and whatever, and that was important to her, that it's not necessarily 100% off the table.
	Wait, for me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, it's 100%.
	It's 100% off the table, unless she makes more than me.
	Then it's on the table.
	No prenup.
	I'm just saying that's what they all say.
	See, I don't really have a strategy, though.
	Well, she actually does have a good point.
	Like, a lot of dudes will say certain things, think certain things, but a lot of guys are one blowjob away from going back to the plantation.
	I'm fucking telling you.
	These guys could be the most, oh, fucking, I'm so red pill, bro.
	A lot of these dudes, they're one BJ away from back to the plantation.
	So, but me, what does that mean exactly?
	So, it's like guys will be like, oh, I will, you know, I have these XYZ expectations of a woman, and I'm not going to tolerate certain behavior.
	And, or like, they could, there's guys who are like black pill.
	I don't know if you guys know what this is, or like MGTOW, where they're like, I'm swearing off women, blah, blah, blah.
	But then, like, a girl comes along and treats them well, treats them nice.
	So, they're one BJ away from going back to the plantation and the plantation being having a loving relationship.
	As if that's a bad thing.
	That's a bad thing.
	Or just being a cost of women.
	But, like, my point, I guess, is like there's compromise.
	And a woman can show her value and her worth to a man and subtly change his mind in certain things, especially over time.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, she doesn't have to be like, you're going to marry me, or I'm going to walk away, and then he's going to walk away.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, you can subtly convince somebody that, okay, maybe, maybe I value you in our relationship enough that I know marriage is super important to you, and you've shown your commitment to me, and that you'll be with me even if we don't get married.
	Yeah.
	So that I'm willing to give you that.
	Right, but I could just turn this around on the woman and be like, well, if you really are willing to be so committed to me, then you won't have to get married to me.
	That's how you show your commitment to me is by not needing marriage.
	And that is what I did for three years.
	And then my husband decided, okay, I think I do want to marry you.
	I will marry a billionaire without a prenup.
	I'll do that.
	That's fair game.
	So, let's see, hooking up right away when you've had, you may have had a promiscuous past.
	I think we already touched on that.
	Yeah, we are working on that.
	Flaws, flaws in the physical rating scale.
	What are those?
	Oh, I just think that's, I just think it's really hard to objectively rate yourself on a scale of one to 10.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I think about it like, I don't know.
	I'm from Washington State.
	Washington State, if you were going to rate it on a scale of one to 10, is probably a 10.
	So are some parts of California.
	Pacific Northwest, have you been there?
	It's beautiful.
	You know what I mean?
	Not Seattle specifically, but Mount Rainier and, you know, whatever.
	The Pacific Northwest.
	And that might not be your gig, but I'm just saying, like, so are certain aspects of Florida, but they're so different.
	And they're so, or California.
	You know what I mean?
	They're so completely opposite of each other.
	So I think it just depends so much on like the nature of the person that's looking at.
	Because I've seen so many guys on here be like, oh, Anna DeArm is she's a 10, she's a 10, she's the one.
	And I'm like, I don't think that you don't think that.
	You know what I mean?
	Obviously, there are certain aspects that we can all say certain things are beautiful.
	I just think there's, it needs to get a lot more nuanced.
	I just think there's so much.
	Hold on.
	So we have something on this actually.
	Austin, you're going to pull up.
	Here, hold on.
	I'm actually, fuck, wait.
	One sec, one sec.
	Getting it.
	I'm gonna send it to you in the private chat.
	So, I mean, there is some objectivity when it comes to physical attractiveness and beauty.
	If you can pull that one up, Austin.
	So, this is from a Reddit called subreddit called True Rate Me, and they do pretty interesting in-depth analysis.
	Oh, can you just open the new tab so we have the whole thing?
	Yes, okay, guys.
	Like the video, just hit the like button for favour.
	All right, so scroll up.
	Wait, is this the wait?
	This is the women's rating primer.
	Can you make a bigger scroll big?
	Big, big, big.
	We can't read.
	Oh, really?
	Click, wait, click on it.
	There we go.
	Zoom it out now.
	Okay.
	Bigger, please.
	Okay.
	Step-by-step breeding guide.
	So you have we won't read the whole thing, but facial harmony, mid-face ratio, eye area, skin, features, bones, the rest.
	Scroll down a bit.
	Okay, so you have facial harmony, scroll down, mid-face ratio.
	Keep going.
	Feline, hunter, eyes, felineness, and eyes.
	Scroll down.
	There's a lot of analysis here.
	Skin, features, face shape, nose, lips, et cetera.
	Bones.
	Bro, wait, go back up.
	Go back up to the bones, the bones.
	Zygomatic bones?
	Maxilla man.
	Bro, the analysis here is crazy.
	Scroll down.
	Okay, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	Oh, that's it.
	Okay.
	There should be an app where you put your face in it and they can.
	There might be.
	We should do that.
	I've seen it.
	Anyways, there is certainly objectivity when it comes to physical beauty.
	But you also, you wrote primary victim of war.
	Was there a disagreement there on this?
	No, that wasn't a disagreement with you.
	You wanted to tell me that?
	That was a disagreement with so many people that I hear say anything but men.
	And I have good, I feel like I have some good other reasons that I don't hear get brought up a lot because they'll be like, oh, well, men die.
	But it's like men also get their legs blown off and then their wives leave them and then they have PTSD and then they're homeless on the street, you know, living near like a VA and stuff like that.
	You see that.
	And it's like no in every instance, no matter what, I think men 100% are the primary victim of war.
	So that was my and then you said, wait, do you have a main opposition toward age gap relationships?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay.
	And you said, but you do disagree with people saying it's easier for older men to manipulate younger women.
	Or do you agree with that?
	So no, I have a disagreement with age gap relationships.
	And then I also do think that it's easier for younger women to manipulate older men.
	Oh, it's okay.
	It's easier for younger women to manipulate older men.
	But I do still have disagreements with age gap relationships.
	So what's your objection to the age gap thing?
	And going around the table, let me open it up to the panel.
	Age gap relationships have an issue with it.
	Would you date somebody older than you, like decently older than you?
	I think it depends because my dad is like 35, so I wouldn't date somebody like that old.
	Wait, your dad's 35?
	My dad is 35?
	Wait, you're 20?
	36, 30?
	I don't know.
	Wait, you don't know your dad's age?
	He was born in 1986.
	I know that.
	So he is.
	Oh, wow.
	He's young.
	So yeah, 30.
	Wait, no, so he's 38.
	He's 38.
	38, 39.
	20.
	He had you when he was 18.
	So I would have trouble dating somebody who's like my dad's age.
	But I think other people are free to do what they want.
	30?
	38?
	39?
	Okay.
	Objections to age gap relationships?
	Yes, no?
	No.
	I'm fine with it.
	No.
	No, I think they're actually.
	Damn, you're hella far from the mic.
	I know.
	That's crazy.
	This is my back.
	That's crazy how that happens.
	My back.
	I know.
	I'm just sitting here.
	I don't know.
	Where's my back?
	I'm sorry.
	You have a nicer chair, Brian.
	Yeah, we just sit there.
	I think that they actually can be beneficial, but I think that it depends on what stage of life you are.
	You know, if you're 18 and somebody 40 wants to date you, you know, it's a little bit.
	And it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter if it's a woman who's older or a man who's older.
	I just think there's such an imbalance in terms of life experiences and just their development.
	I just like give the chance, give the kid a chance to like have his brain develop.
	No, it's like have the brain develop.
	Your brain doesn't fully develop until you're 25.
	Your frontal lobe doesn't even develop.
	Leave the kids alone till they're 25.
	You mean adults?
	Do you mean adults?
	Why do you say kids?
	Because to me, you're a kid until your brain is fully cooked.
	Okay.
	And that's 25.
	Your frontal lobe isn't fully developed until 2025.
	Should people not be able to vote until they're 25?
	You know what?
	That's an argument.
	That's an argument.
	I certainly...
	Shouldn't people not be able to...
	No, I think waiting till you're 25 to vote.
	Should they not be able to sign a legally binding contract until they're 25?
	That could be argued, yeah.
	I mean, listen, we're living a lot longer now.
	You know, like the age of majority hasn't changed since when.
	And we are now living until 80, 90 years old.
	So I don't know.
	I don't think it's that bad to change it.
	Why not?
	Okay.
	So what's the parameter on your age bracket for like where there is a differential between like what age is too high or too low?
	Well, I think that if you are 18 and the person who is interested in you is 45, I think there's some experiential gaps.
	You know, there's maturity, then you're going to be aware of that.
	Both ways, man or woman.
	But let me just say this, though.
	I just think that it just depends.
	My father was 17 years older than my mom.
	My guy's 13 years older than me.
	I'm not against it.
	I'm not totally.
	I'm saying like when there are, when it's a huge gap.
	So like in your 20s and 30s.
	Situational gaps.
	Yeah, so if you're in your late teens and you're in your early 20s, you know, these are your major growth and development times.
	And so I think that you should be able to experience life.
	And then what are, did you lay out your arguments for this?
	No.
	I don't really necessarily have a moral argument.
	I just think that it's very...
	It just gives you the ick?
	No.
	No.
	Not at all.
	I think it's very ideal for a man and a woman to both marry somewhat younger and stay together.
	Because I just think like, oh my goodness, if I had dated a guy that was like 50 when I was 20, then by the time, yes, I can give him children, but then he's going to be like a decrepit old man.
	You know, he can't like play with the kids the same way.
	You know what I mean?
	He can't like go and do, not saying 50 is, but by the time the kid is 20 or whatever, he's like on his deathbed.
	You know what I mean?
	So I mean, I think, so are you approaching it from what's most optimal?
	Yeah.
	I just think it's most, and a lot of people say reasons why they agree and why they think age gap relationships are good.
	And I can see those points, but I just think like seeing my husband playing with our kids and seeing like even just in the past five years, you know, he skateboarded, of course, skateboarded and stuff like that a lot.
	You know, and like each year, those things do get more challenging.
	You know what I mean?
	So like doing all those things with your boys or with your kids, I think it's good for men to have kids young and for women to have kids young and for them to stay together and raise the kids young.
	I mean, I actually don't disagree with this that probably the most optimal relationship dynamic will be when people are closer in age.
	But I don't think there's anything wrong with relationships where there is an age gap.
	But I do think it's probably most optimal when the age is the same.
	Yeah, it doesn't give me the ick.
	And like, okay, my dad is divorced.
	And if he were to marry somebody slightly older than me or whatever, I'd be like, go ahead, like, go for it, dad.
	That's great for you.
	But that's because he's divorced.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I think it's more ideal for a man or a woman.
	Wait, is it more optimal?
	It's more optimal for the woman.
	Wait.
	Hold on.
	Let me think this one through.
	You go ahead while I ponder this.
	I was going to say, I think it's most optimal for the man to be five to ten years older.
	Yeah, four or five.
	Yeah, just because he's had more time to develop resources and had more time to become a better leader and a better member of society.
	And then for a woman, I don't think that's necessarily too relevant when it comes to having a family.
	Yeah.
	I think that youth is a good thing.
	Yeah, 10.
	I think if a guy marries or if a guy meets a girl young and doesn't have those resources, I don't think anybody should discourage him from watching.
	Getting young and having kids broke is fine.
	I wouldn't have a problem with that.
	I'd say optimally, the guy would be a little bit more distracted.
	Yeah, I can say, okay, so I'm 36.
	I've had some younger guys approach me for dating.
	Jackson MILF.
	And the thing is, they can't lead me because I have more life experience than them.
	And I can do my best to support them, but it always creates.
	Yeah, and so it's like trying to follow someone.
	You can't really respect the guy.
	If you feel like you're leading and you have more experience, you're making decisions.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I don't necessarily agree with that.
	I've dated younger men that...
	I'm not saying they can't.
	I'm saying what I've seen is a lack of maturity.
	But whenever those same guys date a younger girl, she's even less mature when he has more life experience so he can lead her, even though he's not exactly where he needs to be.
	Because he has more experience than her, it just kind of flows better.
	He has more respect.
	I think what's most optimal for the man is to date, like if he's 30, would be to date like between 20 and 25.
	But what might be most optimal for the woman, assuming she can find this sort of relationship she wants at this age, I do think it would actually be most optimal.
	I feel like I'm almost arguing against myself here.
	To date a guy one, two years older than her.
	Yeah, I don't know if that makes sense, but like just thinking about it.
	I feel like four is a sweet spot.
	Can we go around and ask for the people who are single what they think the most challenging thing about dating in this dating climate?
	Well, I got to stay on the age gap thing for a little bit here, but we can get to that.
	So let's just even, for those of you who think that or do have some objections to age gap relationships, we can actually just go ahead and grant your objections.
	I have an objection.
	Well, hold on.
	So I'd like to hear, like, those of you who do object to age gap relationships, can you make a compelling argument in terms of the benefit to the man for why he should date, say, a 35-year-old over a 25-year-old?
	That's what I would like to hear.
	Go ahead.
	I don't have an argument for that.
	I would argue that it's better to date a younger woman, especially if you value having a family and reproducing.
	Because from a biological standpoint, like younger women reproduce better, I think.
	Do you have anything?
	You?
	No, I can't make an argument for the man.
	Like I said, like my dad wanted to date somebody significantly younger than him, I would be like, yeah, that's great for you.
	For her, though, she just has to know, you know, he's going to get older every year.
	And that's, you know, if that's what you want, that's what you want.
	What was the thing that you wanted to come in on then?
	I think the only time I think that there's something wrong with dating someone who is a lot younger is when there's no intention of marriage.
	So a lot of these guys, these older guys, they're like, I want an innocent woman.
	And they're like, that's why I want to date a young woman, but they're not marrying that woman.
	What's wrong with that?
	Because they're like, well, if they plan on giving her children, if that's, I mean, if she doesn't want kids.
	What if she does want kids?
	And he's just going to give her kids and not marry her.
	What's wrong with that?
	That's terrible.
	Why is that terrible?
	I wouldn't concede to that.
	I mean, people can do what they want, but I would not want to have a child out of wedlock.
	Okay.
	Well, what if she's fine with it?
	Well, if she's fine with it, then two adults can do what two adults do.
	Right, but you seem even if she's open to it, you still would object to a man who doesn't want to get married pursuing a woman who's, you know, he's 30, she's 20, something like that.
	If she's not interested in marriage, so I think that young girls, I don't want to say are more easily manipulated.
	They are more malleable, which isn't a bad thing, especially not for a man.
	But I feel like he's robbing her of the marriage and the kids and all of that if he has no intentions of doing that.
	Now, if she genuinely does not want that, then that's on her.
	But I think a lot of young girls will be like, oh, yeah, I don't want that.
	And then later on regret it, you know, that they didn't do it that way.
	Yeah, I don't need the burden of responsibility is really on the guy there because a lot of young chicks just want to go on boats and stuff, you know?
	They just want to go on boats and go traveling and they get some older sugar daddy and that's what they do.
	And then if they regret it later, it's like you should have had some foresight.
	Well, that's kind of why I said too.
	I think that older men can sometimes be more easily manipulated instead of the other way around.
	Because when I was a younger woman and had a lot of older men hitting on me, I would kind of look at them like, granted, I wasn't in the best state of mind, but kind of like, these guys are like suckers.
	You know what I mean?
	And they're so like, they're so like, oh, you're so cute and pretty and innocent.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, girls are never really like that.
	I'm not saying that they aren't, but I'm just saying, like, I remember thinking like they were more, almost more gentlemanly than guys your age that would be more like look at you as They look at you like you're a young, innocent girl, you know what I mean?
	And like, guys your age look at you like a hookup or whatever.
	But to your point, right?
	You just said, like, oh, women in that younger age bracket are looking to be like on boats, partying, doing that stuff.
	So let's say that you have a guy between 25 and 30, and he's looking at women in the dynamic of 20 to 25 because that's what the ideal, and that's like when women are in their prime.
	But those women, statistically now, are not getting married and wanting to have kids because they're delaying that.
	I think that the majority of them are completely not relationship material.
	Like we walked around the streets last night of Santa Barbara in the IRL, and there wouldn't be one single one of those girls that we met last night that I'd be able to do that.
	I think they do it in a Newport Beach.
	Yeah, tried in Venice Beach.
	So that's, I guess that's my point, is right?
	Like you're looking for the woman, not necessarily like you, because you see.
	But you do get girls in that age bracket who are more switched on and who do have better intentions.
	Diamond and Jetson, for sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	So should I have a follow-up on that?
	But you were making a point.
	Like, also, women, they're more socially attuned than men.
	So this idea, like, I feel like women can navigate social situations.
	Like, isn't that a thing?
	Like, women are more mature.
	They mature faster.
	They mature at a younger age mentally or whatever.
	So all this stuff about like these older guys taking advantage of younger women.
	Like women are way more socially calibrated than men.
	I've sometimes looked.
	I've sometimes looked at an older.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I knew it was coming.
	I've sometimes looked at people and been like.
	Okay, sorry, sorry, go ahead.
	I've looked at people and okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	You done?
	I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.
	I've looked at people and been like, oh, you're just kind of a money bag.
	Like, I could get you.
	Like, I was, I have done that, and I'm being honest.
	I was at an I was shopping at Erwan, and some guy comes out, like an older guy.
	He looks at me, he goes, Do I know you from somewhere or whatever?
	Starts hitting on me, and then he hands me $100 and said, Can I buy you a smoothie?
	And like, it's just, it's all it takes.
	No, I gave my mom's number.
	I sometimes when I'm not interested in a guy, you give your mother's number, she knows it's a joke.
	We're like close.
	She just like mom would kill me.
	Oh, no, she's it's just a joke.
	So then the guy, like, like, older guys sometimes just want to, you know, calls my mom.
	She goes, I don't know her.
	And then he goes, well, you sound kind of cute too.
	Can I get with you to my mom on the phone?
	Like, just bro was just out here looking for someone.
	What about younger guys and older women?
	This is an interesting sugar moment.
	Whenever I see guys who get swindled by older chicks, I always think.
	Why did you say swindled, though?
	Well, because look at Ian Gary, for example, who's a UFC fighter.
	He's like a 26-year-old dude who's shacked up with like a 40-year-old woman.
	And if he wants to do that, I mean, by all means.
	But I think that young guys who have never been in a situation where they have a lot of options, if they get an attractive older woman, she can pretty easily wrangle him with sex.
	An experienced guy, and especially a guy like that who's coming up and who's going to be a world champion one day, I really think that he got swindled.
	And there's also the who's the one direction guy who's dating the older, the older girl as well.
	One direction.
	Are you talking about Craig's Carrier's diary?
	Is he talking about that?
	One of the One Direction guys are reading here.
	Sorry for that.
	No, it's not.
	It's another one.
	He's dating Cheryl Cole.
	I don't know.
	Who it's on some, anyways.
	So by the way, We got the Crucible, the Crucible raid.
	Hey, Andrew, I don't know if you're tuning in, but Andrew, I hope you had a good stream, man.
	That's Andrew Wilson.
	There's a story Wilson.
	I'm not mad.
	I'm disappointed not to see you.
	There's a number of people that also are in the middle.
	What's wrong with that?
	No, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
	I'm saying you're saying swindle, but there's also guys that like that, like purposefully.
	Chicks have so many options that they're less likely to actually get manipulated by an older guy.
	Whereas I think young guys who can be much easily, much more easily manipulated by pussy.
	Oh, for sure.
	I don't think everybody knows about Erin Taylor Johnson and that one lady he's dating.
	Sorry.
	Isn't that what everybody says?
	Sorry, who?
	I do not know who that is.
	Aaron Taylor Johnson.
	Look him up.
	He's dating that.
	He's dating like a 90-year-old lady, and he's like a very young, like, attractive looking person.
	Well, that's like a fetish.
	What about the president?
	Can't get pregnant.
	France.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, Macron.
	Yeah.
	Isn't she like way?
	She's awesome.
	Well, she was like the teacher.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She's the teacher or some shit.
	I wanted Del Rey's dating an older guy, and she said it's age gap autumn.
	Oh, okay.
	So they've always got a freaking season for it, haven't they?
	Yeah, Hawk Girl Summer, Brad Summer, Age Gap Autumn.
	But like, it's interesting, this whole like easier to manipulate thing.
	But what's interesting to me, like, if we look at the financial component of some relationships, who's more likely to be spending money on the other person?
	So, like, wouldn't that be a metric by which we could determine who's more easy to manipulate?
	If you're able to sucker a guy out of like $100 dinner, $1,000 dinner at what's that Nobu or whatever the fuck it is.
	Men spend way more on money than women ever spend on money.
	So this whole argument of easier to manipulate, men are so desperate for women.
	They're willing to spend hard-earned money.
	Women are not willing to, generally speaking, to spend money in pursuit of getting a man.
	So dictum here.
	Yeah, you could just make the argument.
	I feel like men are easier to manipulate.
	They're so desperate that they're willing to spend money to get a woman.
	They're willing to spend money for their time, for their attention.
	Now, this is getting into the realm of prostitution, but women don't have this level of desperation.
	Like, women, y'all can just go get some dick.
	You can get some male attention.
	Men, they're so, like, for you, how desperate would you have to feel to be like, damn, I got to pay money to get some dick.
	But like, dudes do that.
	Well, with, okay, so I get with women too, as I've stated.
	So, well, like, I'm saying, like, if I go on a date with a girl, like, it's not like a set, the guy's paying, obviously, there's no guy.
	So, I'm saying, like, it's kind of a different ballpark.
	Right, but I guess what I'm trying to get at is that men are much more motivated to try to get female attention, whether it be romantic or sexual, that they're willing to pay for it, which opens if men, like, if you are kind of like lukewarm about something, it's very hard to manipulate you.
	Like, if you're kind of like, I could take it or leave it, it's very hard to manipulate that type of person.
	But if you're a dude and you're like, I am willing to throw my fucking life away for pussy, you can manipulate that guy.
	That's easy to manipulate.
	That level of desire, and men have a much higher sex drive.
	Men are much more motivated.
	Men are much more motivated than women are when it comes to this.
	So if you're more motivated, if you have a higher desire, you have a higher drive for something, then it's easier to manipulate you.
	Yeah, so all you women are fucking predators.
	You're all fucking predators.
	Even if you're dating a man your age, you're all fucking predators.
	Okay, I don't know.
	Did that feel cool?
	What's that?
	Did that feel cool?
	Did it feel cool?
	Yeah.
	Did what feel cool?
	My little rant or whatever?
	You feel better?
	I feel better now.
	Thanks.
	Good.
	Appreciate it.
	Anytime.
	So let's see.
	We got to get through your notes.
	So.
	Okay.
	You chill out, bro.
	Let's see.
	You said that you're a businesswoman who believes in traditional values, but thrust.
	Thrust?
	Okay, sometimes you use voice to text.
	Thirst?
	Thirst.
	Sometimes it puts something that I said, okay, into independence because of choices I made at a young age.
	Yeah, because of who I married and the things my ex-husband.
	Okay.
	You said you could add some heat to the podcast because my comments tend to get a lot of different reactions.
	Lol.
	The fact that everyone wants more than they offer.
	You said people aren't self-aware and know what they bring to the table or relationship in the current dating climate.
	Men want traditional women without being a traditional man, and women want to be kept without being traditional women.
	Yep.
	Everyone seems to want more than they can offer.
	You're a big fan of intentional rotational dating.
	Yes.
	Without physical intimacy.
	Yes.
	And that seems to get most men irritated because I'm a single mom.
	Despite the fact my ex-husband proposed after six months, no physical intimacy, and my son is from my sadly failed marriage.
	When you say, so when you say rotational dating, what do you mean?
	So that kind of goes back to what y'all were talking about: how you have that standard that if by the second date she's not cutting off all men.
	Wait, wait, let me double.
	Let me triple down on this.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	It's not that she has to cut off the men that she's already seeing on the second date.
	I don't want any dudes in the picture to begin with.
	Okay.
	So that's even another layer of money.
	And you can have that standard.
	Sure.
	But women can also say, until you have shown me that you are worth dropping all prospects, I am not going to be exclusive with you.
	Back to the streets you go.
	And that's fine too.
	That's fine.
	But that's why I say without physical intimacy, because you can't say that and then be sleeping with a guy.
	Just like you said, there are some women who will sleep with a guy and then be dating other guys.
	Of course, that's 304 behavior.
	But just, but here's the other thing: because I know you've mentioned this.
	For me personally, I do not expect dinner dates.
	We can go and get coffee.
	We can go to the park.
	We can go and do things that don't necessarily cost a lot of money.
	Just getting to know someone.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Just like a hike, like a hike date would be awesome.
	But getting to know someone.
	I'm more of a beach guy, to be honest.
	A hike date sounds like a really good way to get murdered.
	So I'm all.
	Anyways, continue.
	Continue.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead and continue.
	Well, maybe not a first date.
	There's this one hiking.
	Wait, wait, so you do rotational dating, though?
	Yeah.
	So like you're in a relationship.
	Huh?
	You're in a single.
	No, you're single, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But so you have a roster.
	Not currently, no.
	But you've had a roster before.
	How big was the roster?
	Oh, God.
	With guys who are like genuinely intent.
	Like, because you know how you have people just mess it.
	Well, no, okay.
	Guys don't typically have that.
	But women always have men messaging them, right?
	But out of the guys who are genuinely trying to get to know me, maybe three, sometimes five.
	But that's just getting to know.
	That's talking.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah.
	And you don't have to agree, but that's just how I, why would I commit to someone I don't know?
	I thought our roster was more like sex.
	It could be, yeah.
	But wait, question.
	So have you ever gone on a date and then the next day you went on a date with somebody else?
	Yes.
	Have you ever been on two dates in the same day?
	With like different guys?
	I believe so.
	Yeah, see, that's just like, imagine.
	Imagine.
	Hey, look, people do it.
	I wouldn't be able to go to the first date.
	This is, oh my God, I really like this girl.
	And then you find out right after you gave her like the ass-out hug because she's like kind of playing coy or whatever.
	You give her the ass sad hug.
	Oh, it was a really great date.
	Let's do it again.
	Here's your doggy bag that I paid for.
	She went out on a date with another guy right after you.
	Bro, back to the streets.
	She goes back to the streets streets.
	And I get what you're saying.
	And I do understand what you're saying.
	And I think I heard you on another podcast explain that.
	And I was like, okay, I see what you mean by that.
	But I am a single mom.
	I don't get a lot of free time.
	And sometimes guys cancel.
	So when it comes to first dates.
	Do you have a backup plan in place if they cancel backup plan?
	There's two separate dates planned.
	This whole date.
	So this whole roster thing.
	Way past my mental banana.
	I wouldn't be able to.
	But this whole roster thing, right?
	People make it out when I say, okay, I'd rather, I strongly prefer a woman who's not involved with another guy.
	Strongly prefer a woman who, after the first date, she cuts it off if she is like talking or dating another guy, not sleeping with, because that's an immediate deal breaker for me.
	I get so much pushback, but I think like, okay, let's actually break this down.
	So there's 52 weeks in a year.
	If you went on one date a week, that's 52 men in a year.
	Now, what would, and so, like, let's say you go on a first date, you don't like the guy.
	Next week, you go on another date with another guy.
	You could do 52 first dates in a year without having to like simultaneously be like dating three dudes at the same time.
	In the, look, I know it's not the, in the back in the 1950s, a chick would like maybe go on three first dates and that third dude's the one she marries and stays with her entire life.
	Now people got to go on like 300 first dates before they, god damn, bro, Desmond, your chicken smells like shit.
	I'm sorry.
	300 first dates party?
	I thought somebody farted.
	Chicken.
	Yeah, I think Brian's point pretty easy.
	Like just, he doesn't want to be dating a girl who's dating.
	And it's like higher fast, fire fast.
	If you date somebody, go on one or two dates, three dates over the course of a few weeks.
	And if you don't like them, drop them and don't be dating people in between.
	Yeah, if you don't like me on the second or third date, cut it off and then move on to the next guy.
	But can I ask something?
	Sure.
	So are you looking for somebody that's like just solely interested in pursuing a relationship with you?
	And that's the point of going on a date.
	As opposed to.
	Like she said with dating around.
	Just getting to know you.
	Well, I kind of like when I like high levels of interest from women.
	I don't like this whole Chase thing.
	I don't like this whole hard to get thing.
	I like you.
	You like me.
	Let's be together.
	Keep that shit simple.
	Do you show the high interest too?
	Like, is it reciprocated?
	Absolutely.
	That's good.
	But, like, if a girl, I really like it when a girl demonstrates high levels of interest.
	In what ways?
	Sometimes I'll ask them to do shit for me.
	And laundry.
	First date.
	See if they do it.
	Yeah.
	You're kidding.
	No, seriously.
	I'll ask them, like, pick me up from the airport.
	Oh, well, like, you're saying.
	Well, you'd be surprised.
	A lot of girls will foot massages at a strange time.
	Like, after our first date, maybe even when I first meet them.
	Just rude.
	Okay, can't look at it.
	All right, so that's great.
	When you first meet them, you're going to ask them to pick you up from the airport.
	Yeah.
	So let me ask you: what is it that you reciprocate?
	What if she says she'll call the Uber for you, but she won't go pick you up?
	No, I want you to come and make the effort.
	Oh, come Wednesday.
	Okay, so how are you reciprocating her effort?
	What do you mean?
	Like, how are you reciprocating?
	If you ask them the air things for you, like before I take home, do your laundry.
	What do you expect her?
	What do you think?
	Oh, well, I'll pay for all the dates.
	I'll organize all the dates.
	I'll take the lead and do whatever we need to do.
	So she has to just trust that you're going to do that?
	I think that, well, something that I value is acts of service.
	So I'll ask them to do something for me at the start.
	And if they don't do it, then I think that's a turnoff for me.
	It's like a test, but that's an important change.
	But okay, Brian, when you go to us on your first date, what types of topics are y'all discussing?
	For me, my first date, I want to know if we share the same morals, if we're going the same direction in life, and if we have anything in common.
	And typically, by the first date, I pretty much know if it's going to proceed on further from that.
	Yeah, that's why that's another reason why I ask people to, or at least like maybe come meet me where I am.
	Because I find if they don't want to make the effort, then often it signifies that they're really entitled.
	Would you pick the girl up if she asked you first date?
	It depends.
	Depends where we were.
	If it was in my city, and if they came to my city and if I'd been in the middle of the day, no, just like you had plans, and she's like, let's say you were here, you live here, she's coming home from New York, but you had plans to meet that day.
	She's like, oh, I got home.
	Will you pick me up and we hang out?
	Yeah, sure.
	If I have a car, if I'm in a city where I have a car, I'm a nomad, so I don't have a car.
	Sure.
	Was there a question for me here or what?
	About the laundry shit or what?
	Yeah, no, I just think that it's for the amount of responsibility women have in choosing the right partner.
	We need more than just one date and just be like, you.
	And the idea that we're supposed to know, but then at the same time, we clearly don't know.
	Like, there's lots of people who don't know how to do the date thing.
	And you want to have that level of interest, like just you, because you want it.
	And this, and the thing is, is that there's so much.
	Well, could you guys both agree?
	I think that Brian's completely right.
	You want to see the burning desire from the day dot.
	Yeah.
	And if they don't do that, and if they're iffing about you, then it means that there's something about you they don't particularly like.
	You don't want that.
	Well, yeah, I don't want a fence sitter chick who's like on the I need to go on like three more dates before I've made the determination.
	I want you haven't even fucking met me in your I was about to say in love with me, but maybe not.
	Okay, that's a bit money.
	But so that's you'd like that.
	You'd like to have that high level where she's like ready to say I love you.
	Worship.
	Wow.
	Obsession.
	Not stalker.
	I think it would be good to like instead of putting a time on something.
	Yeah.
	Just like let things like flow so it's not like no flow.
	No flow.
	Listen, Brian, that's not truthful because you would rather it flow.
	I don't think you understand.
	We want simps.
	I want a girl.
	Yeah, I want to be a simp.
	I don't want to simply letting it flow.
	Like, I'm agreeing.
	Like, it's not three dates, two dates, or whatever it may be, but just let things happen the way that they're supposed to.
	And the way that it's supposed to happen is that we're meant to go on the first day.
	Whatever it changes.
	And you're meant to be simpy, and it's meant to mean a lot of things.
	I feel like, honestly, that's what it says.
	I don't even know what it's like.
	Go off, Kim.
	Simp?
	Go off, Kim.
	Simp means unrequited attention.
	Unrequited attention.
	So you don't want to be quit.
	It means that they're like pining for this band 24-7 officials.
	She needs to be obsessed.
	Simping is like totally.
	It depends on the hardware.
	I have to get one person.
	Oh my god, I need to get directly doing that.
	I just think that that's a very unrealistic expectation, considering you guys yourselves say that women have way more options than men do.
	So how are you expecting that you're going to find this one?
	Yeah, exactly.
	So it's more value.
	If they're not simping, it means that they're out here playing the fields and they've got all these different options and you don't really mean much to them.
	I'm not.
	You're not actually doing ugly.
	But when I am with someone, I am all like in the dating phase.
	There you go.
	No, I am.
	If I'm in a relationship.
	Oh, I thought like me too.
	No, no, no.
	All in.
	Immediately, yeah.
	Oh, I am.
	All in.
	If I commit like that, but that's the women that I'm saying, like right now.
	I haven't seen it.
	I need to show up my phone.
	But I want to go back to one.
	Wait, wait, one, one of the things that I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a water.
	I want to go here and get on her knees for you for whatever.
	Wait, play the ball.
	Play the bow.
	Play the one.
	I think you need a new bow video because this one's overdone.
	I'm not giving you a bow.
	No.
	Rude.
	I'll give you a bow once after you go into my cold plunge.
	Instant simping is a good thing.
	Jake, you were responding to this.
	Okay, I know.
	We got off topic.
	Okay, I was saying in the first few dates, in the dating phase, do you think that it's more natural for the woman to be the one who is adoring and who is looking up to the guy, or do you think it's the guy who's meant to be a person?
	Do you think it's the guy who's meant to be chasing?
	But here's the thing, guys.
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, we're the romantic ones and this and that.
	But now you're saying men are hunters.
	They are supposed to pursue the women.
	I do agree.
	I think that you guys are saying one thing, but if you guys had somebody who was simping on you, and if you weren't returning the attention, they're just texting you all the time, you would be turned off by that.
	No, I wouldn't.
	But if they were texting us, everyone says this.
	I wouldn't, because I know what it feels like reversed and on the other hand of things.
	So I am coming from a place of experience.
	Now, why the heck would I not want someone that I actually want to be in a relationship with?
	Because again, I'm dating with intention.
	Heck yeah, I want that.
	Not be obsessed with you.
	I would love a guy to be obsessed with you.
	And, you know, it's not a question or it's not me trying to play mom, you know, on the other hand.
	You see, I think that women generally tend to want a man who's on his purpose and whose main goal is his purpose in life and they can sort of jump on and be a part of that journey.
	Whereas men want to be on their purpose and they want a woman who's going to come along for the ride.
	Yeah, I don't.
	agree.
	So then you agree with what I'm saying?
	Well, I don't know if I'm going to pick you up in the airport the first time before we meet.
	Okay, then I guess it's not going to be a problem.
	But we can talk about it.
	I just want to know, like, why is it that you're going to be able to do that?
	I'd pick you up in the airport, though, by the way.
	It's reciprocal.
	Why is it so important for women to kind of make themselves smaller for you to feel comfortable?
	I don't think it's actually making themselves smaller.
	I think that it's actually seamlessly going into the natural way that relationships should be with the man as the leader.
	Women are supposed to be submissive in our relationship.
	But what I'm saying is that this is not something, this is not information that you establish within less than 10 hours of meeting somebody.
	Something as important as how you're going to do that for the rest of your life.
	And so I don't know who these people are.
	Maybe, I don't know how you get that data.
	Maybe you've got the AI chip or something, but it takes a while.
	It takes months for you to get to know somebody because people are with them.
	Now, listen, I everyone's prepared.
	Wait, no, no, no, no, hold on.
	You said, didn't you say you went on a date with a guy who was prepared to spend like $7,500 on you or something?
	He was prepared to simp.
	We want that.
	And I dated him.
	But not financially, necessarily.
	I did it.
	Emotionally.
	But I think he was prepared as worthy of it.
	He was prepared immediately.
	Here's a fuck ton of money, basically.
	Now, I'm not saying men want the money, but we want what y'all are saying is what's best for men.
	Exactly.
	What's best for men is best for the relationship.
	Well, here's the thing.
	Also, how do you get it?
	And women get taken advantage of by the fuck boy.
	And this is why these gender wars just keep happening.
	Because you guys say fuck shit like that.
	Fuck shit.
	What are you doing?
	You say some fuck shit.
	You say some fuck shit.
	She's asking.
	She was coming on the radio and yellow.
	I know.
	She has to urinate.
	Can I say something?
	Go ahead.
	Say, go off, Queen.
	Okay.
	Okay, so, wait, you're religious, right?
	Okay, so from a religious standpoint, simping, women simping for men and women adoring men is actually the way that God put it.
	W the body.
	They've proven themselves to actually be like taking her on.
	Here I am.
	I have proven myself.
	Proceed to simp.
	Existing issues.
	And what are you doing to prove yourself?
	You don't have to.
	I don't think you would say that.
	I will admit, whenever I am in a relationship, I simp to my man.
	100%.
	When I'm in a relationship.
	But if you like him, you'll start simping right away and he'll know that you like him.
	You know, not like y'all saying that.
	I don't know.
	Maybe y'all are right.
	I mean, I've never officially like dated, but I'm just saying like every guy that I've ever seen.
	So it's like Brian, I know you're going to hate this, but I do have another show tomorrow.
	So are we wrapping up soon?
	What?
	Because he doesn't like when girls go to the bottom.
	Tell you what.
	I will wrap the show up sooner if you just admit fucking you are curious.
	I mean, I'm enjoying my watch time.
	By Zahoa.
	So, do you want to admit that you're Drummond?
	A. What's the show, by the way?
	Just curious.
	Okay, enough.
	Sorry.
	It's an Only Advanced Day.
	Oh.
	Is it with Ryan?
	It's thick and no, it's not a podcast.
	It's called Nixmatch.
	Ah, okay.
	Well, you know, here's the thing, right?
	Trick.
	Is because you lied, you actually have to stay after the show and clean up the whole studio.
	Bow?
	Can she do a bow?
	Can I bow out?
	She has to write it 100 times on a chalkboard.
	Not enough to redeem.
	Yeah, she's getting detention.
	Right.
	And expelled and suspended.
	Dun, don't.
	You know what?
	In fact, here, put this shit.
	I should have busted this.
	Is it a French movie costume?
	Here, put this shit on.
	Go ahead.
	Wear that.
	Someone spin that helicopter.
	Ava, spin the helicopter.
	Go ahead, put it on.
	That's so degrading.
	Or Ava, spin the helicopter.
	Why is it degrading?
	It's just a.
	That's kind of funny.
	No, it's not degrading.
	The only thing degrading.
	The only thing degrading is the video of her filleting a man on the internet.
	Okay, so if she admits it, If she had met it all, she denies that she denies exists, but we've done the fucking you don't deserve to wear it.
	I want to wear it.
	She gets to wear it.
	It actually looks kind of cute on her.
	No, it doesn't.
	I hate that clown music.
	Wait, put it back on.
	No, we're going to continue the show and you'll sit there, I guess.
	Should I leave?
	Rage quit.
	Oh.
	God fear you.
	No, F girls.
	It won't be called a rage.
	It won't be called a rage quit.
	Before you leave, what's she what?
	Admits?
	Why don't you just admit that you're I found bro?
	They found another BJ and an actual fuck video.
	Oh my god.
	Just take the just fucking admit it, you fucking D-Gen.
	Just fucking admit it.
	Well, she's gonna go on this OnlyFans show tomorrow and be like, yeah, I fucking lied about it.
	I'm fucking.
	She's laughing, too.
	Our devious.
	I'm a little strumpet.
	Just say you're a strumpet.
	Say, Brian, I'm a strumpet.
	Just say you're a strumpet.
	Since you already did the thing that we'll show you.
	Will you admit it before you leave?
	Throw crumpets.
	Please, please.
	I gotta hear it.
	Say it.
	I need to hear it.
	For the girls.
	No.
	So.
	Oh, my God.
	There's a video of you in a bathroom with a red sink.
	Fucking admit to it, lady.
	The red sink?
	There goes the smirk again.
	Tell me the red sink.
	Oh, my God.
	That smirk.
	Red sink.
	It is a smirk.
	You're having carnal knowledge in a bathroom with a red sink.
	Say it.
	You should have asked what colour her sink is.
	Hold on.
	Do it.
	Fucking do it.
	Just do it.
	I'm going to let this shit play until you admit the shit.
	Let's tell.
	Oh, my God.
	No, please.
	Wait, is the audio?
	All rage quits.
	Just do it.
	Make your dreams come true.
	Just do it.
	It doesn't stop.
	Shia does not stop until it's...
	I didn't know this continued this long.
	You should get to the point.
	What do you call that?
	Is that like a rat tail or what is it?
	You're not going to stay.
	I was just going to say that.
	No, what are you waiting for?
	It's like circular, coily down his.
	Yes, you can.
	What's your body count?
	Six.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	You a fucking liar.
	You're a fucking liar.
	Can you put the hat on, please?
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Stop it.
	So ridiculous.
	Why don't you just sit there quietly and say nothing for the rest of the show?
	That would be nice if you could do that.
	Where were we?
	Where were we?
	My notes.
	You had a time.
	Yeah, I reached quit it just to go to the bathroom.
	You did the P-ray.
	So what was your thing really quick so I can't do that?
	I just think it's unrealistic for just because you see somebody and you're like, you.
	He's like a caveman with his club.
	And he's like, hitting her over the head and dragging her back to the cave.
	Chicks thought that's wrong.
	Listen, let me just say this.
	Me and my guy, I was rotationally dating and I told the guys, I said, listen, when I sleep with you, you'll know that I'm exclusive.
	I'm not sleeping with any of you because I'm being very intentional.
	And one guy rose to, you know, the cream to the top.
	And six months, we got to know each other really well.
	Look what I'm wearing.
	So it works.
	It works to get to know somebody, but like to get to know someone.
	And then I'm going to just be honest with you.
	When we did have sex, it was freaking incredible.
	It wasn't awkward or anything because we'd gotten to know each other so well.
	So, the only reason why I don't completely agree with you is because I will admit that I simped for my most recent ex and look at how it turned out.
	You know, so that's that's yeah, me too.
	Yeah, so I'm like, Yeah, I can see 8.5-year guy.
	No, that's my ex-husband.
	No, no, no.
	Okay, did you simp for him?
	Um, after we were in a relationship, no, no, no, I meet he, it was six months, right?
	No physical intimacy, and then he was like, Yeah, and then he was like, Okay, I want to get married, and I was like, Okay, then I caved, and then we eventually got married, and you know, then had our son.
	Well, let me try to blast through the remaining notes here.
	Um, you said, let's see, you agree with about 95% of what's said on the show.
	Uh, back to people in general, including men, aren't traditional anymore.
	Uh, you said you say it's a woman's market currently, not sure entirely what that means, but y'all were talking about it earlier.
	Women are selectors, essentially that women just have so many options.
	I don't think it's ever been a woman's market until the feminist movement.
	And I think that women have so many options now that they're just, I kind of feel bad for guys, honestly.
	I think they kind of get the shit end of the stick when it comes to dating.
	Yeah, you said there are almost no traditional women, and it kind of sucks being a man right now.
	And men hate the fact that I'm overweight, and I have options.
	Oh, yes, a lot of guys get really mad because they say if you're a fat single mom, that no man's gonna want you or this and that, doesn't matter if you're, you know, have traditional values or what.
	And they get very upset because I'm like, I do have options.
	That's really weird that they put that much energy into telling you that.
	Well, that's what they say.
	Who's they?
	They rate you that?
	Yeah, who is they?
	Wait, when you say you have mad guys.
	When you say you have options, what does that mean?
	I have men who are pursuing me.
	And actually, no, no, I took a break.
	Yeah.
	But, okay, for example, here's another reason why I think men don't have an issue with pursuing me is because I always respect them.
	I tell them I'm not going to be sleeping around with anybody and dating them.
	And two, the moment I think or know that I'm not interested in a man, I will tell him right away.
	Because I never want a man to feel like he's simping for me.
	Because I feel like that's disrespectful.
	And if you should just respect the people, why would you even go on a date with someone that you don't respect?
	I just, I don't get it.
	But, um, interesting.
	Interesting.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Let's see.
	You said that you tell people all the time it's the traditional fours time to shine.
	We now have a shot at marriage in a family.
	Men can be mad all they want.
	But the reality is feminism ruined women and porn ruined men.
	Public schools ruined both.
	I made a short video on how schools empower girls into masculine boys.
	This is exactly why I homeschool my son, and I make a lot of sacrifices in order to do so.
	I would have a very different financial situation.
	Your child did not decide to be born.
	Promised myself I would stay home with my children before I had kids.
	Unfortunately, my son's father became an alcoholic, which has made him into a person I don't recognize.
	So I'm essentially doing it on my own.
	Unlike most single mothers, though I do want a man as a head of household, but a good man, I recognize that when I choose my partner, my biggest mistake was choosing a man who didn't have a relationship with God.
	Okay.
	A genuine relationship with God, not just I believe in God and God doesn't really care what I do.
	Like a genuine fear of God.
	So, yeah.
	The gender war is toxic.
	Both sides are ignoring the root cause and their own flaws.
	You also said how women leave good relationships over feelings and statistics, how we discuss this, how and statistics are thrown out about women being the initiators of divorce.
	But when you dive deep into those statistics and you remove the ones from abuse, infidelity, and abandonment, it's a lot closer to 50-50.
	You were a biotech major, and I'm really good with statistics because I had to use it a lot in my field.
	Statistics are a good way to manipulate people if they don't understand them.
	As much as I am for traditionalism, I'm for honesty and looking at the genuine picture and climate of society.
	I mean, I'm not sure if I'm not sure how you came to it being 50-50.
	I said closer to.
	So when you remove, and remember earlier about the 23, I believe it's 23% with abuse.
	Even if you removed a third of that, because people claim abuse and it's not really abuse.
	But even if you look at these statistics, it is closer to 50-50 unless you're getting into the higher education.
	Then it is very much so skewed on the women's side.
	The higher the education, the more likely she is.
	Well, what do you think about this one?
	So if you look at the incidence of divorce in homosexual relationships, so the incidence of divorce is the lowest amongst gay relationships.
	Then you have heterosexual relationships is in between.
	And then at the very top, when it comes to divorce rates, it's lesbians who have the highest divorce rates.
	So when you have two women, divorce rates are the highest.
	Two men, divorce rates are the lowest.
	Wait, is this the quit?
	Is it the quit?
	Do you want me to?
	No, you have to just stay there and sit the whole time.
	Maybe we'll get about it later.
	Is it a quit?
	Are you.
	But do you want me to?
	Because they keep asking me.
	What do you mean?
	No, I think we'll eventually get you to crack and admit that you're a escort/slash prostitute slash.
	Do you always want to discuss it while I leave?
	So you can talk about it when you're in the middle of the day.
	If you leave, it's not going to get discussed.
	So, wait, is this a quit or are you coming?
	I'm probably getting up to use the bathroom.
	Yeah, I'm just seeing I can get some food after this.
	Let's text.
	I was going to text my manager.
	Wait, so is it a quit or what?
	It's a quit.
	Is it the quit?
	I feel like you're wanting me to by asking that.
	I don't want to be like disrespectful to the panel.
	Oh, no, I'm not asking.
	Go ahead, sit there and enjoy the rest of the show.
	Let's see if she's going to lie about this.
	So back to that.
	I would say that a majority of lesbians are feminist.
	And I have already expressed that I am an anti-feminist.
	I do not agree with feminist ideas.
	And I think that most of the women who, okay, like you said, women who say, oh, this is abuse when it's really not abuse, I would say a majority of them are feminist.
	Now with homosexuals, two gay males, they also tend to have open relationships and they can essentially fuck whoever they want.
	So I don't think really comparing that is, I don't think it's a good concern.
	Can you say they're more likely to stay together because they have open relationships?
	Because they're both men and they just want to fuck.
	I think that open.
	I mean, I don't know what it's like with the gays, but I think generally open relationships tend to not work.
	Well, that's good.
	You know what we need to do?
	We need to do a little once she's she's definitely coming back.
	We're gonna wrap the show up soon.
	We need to do a roast session.
	Any final thoughts from any of the panelists?
	I know you maybe had a couple questions.
	We might not be able to do all of them.
	No, it's okay.
	Final thoughts from any panelists here before we get into the roast session?
	I just kind of want to ask what everybody's like type is because we didn't really get into it other than like individual conversations of like height or whatever.
	I think we have to do it.
	No, but like that, not that stuff.
	I'm talking about like we talk a lot about physical stuff here and like we don't get asked like what our physical types and men are.
	So I'm curious as to what the women's physical types are.
	Yes, I agree.
	I'm just gonna say that all of my exes don't look like there's this meme and it was like oh you have a type and it shows like an alien and then all these different things.
	And I was like, yeah, that's essentially like I for sure do not have a type.
	I have a type.
	You have no rhyming reason.
	I like for men, I like tattoos.
	I either like super always works out.
	X drug addicts.
	Sorry, My bad, my bad, my bad.
	And for women, I like them to be around my height and like, so I don't feel so small.
	What about height for men or ethnicity or eye color or anything like that?
	She's like, I like white guys.
	I like black guys.
	Tattoos, white guys.
	Like, would you?
	What?
	I thought you were pointing to me.
	I was saying she's like, I thought you were saying we're similar height.
	We're just friends.
	Oh, okay.
	Just friends?
	Did you friends on her or not?
	No, I shouldn't.
	Did you try to?
	I was the creepy one.
	I was like, I know your name.
	I want to be friends.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	Oh?
	She has the same name as somebody in my family, and she spells it the same name.
	Same way with the A instead of the E. You're the E. I'm the E. All right, guys.
	We're going to do the roast segment.
	If you guys want, get your.
	The TTS is now set to 20, and then we're going to wrap up the show.
	So if you want to do some roasts, get it in.
	Oh, God.
	I'm in trouble, yeah.
	You're in trouble, Jake.
	Why are you in trouble?
	I don't know.
	Why don't we participate?
	Body count?
	Zero.
	Six.
	I said it last time.
	I think like 16 to 23.
	I don't.
	How many men?
	How many women?
	Mostly women.
	Like six guys.
	Word?
	W?
	Out of respect for my kids who are teenagers and can probably find this on the internet.
	I'm not going to answer this question.
	Range?
	Is that range?
	No, I'm not discussing range.
	0 to 100.
	All right.
	That is a conversation between me and my future partner.
	Okay, you can tell Jake after the show, though.
	Okay.
	After he kills a spider and I pick him up from the airport.
	Good deal.
	You don't have to drop him obviously catch his flight back to Australia soon.
	Jake sugars.
	It's not even funny, okay?
	That was like the first time that works, by the way.
	Because I just.
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	A little roast segment, guys.
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	Where were we?
	We were talking about body count.
	I feel the same way.
	That's a conversation.
	Range?
	Can you guys give us a range?
	That's also something I disagree with because you have said before, when people don't say their body count, that means it's high.
	I don't have a high body count.
	I don't need to give you my range.
	You don't just gotta need to.
	How?
	Not high.
	Okay.
	Thanks for having me back.
	Definitely social.
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	Help.
	Period.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	I have three grown kids and one 15-year-old, and there is no way I'm going to be doing that.
	Josh donated for 20 years, so you cycle simps with no stuffing because you're deathly afraid of cardio.
	You lost the chat when you brought up hiking.
	Where some high visited fits.
	Alpha the grizzly gobbling glumpo.
	What the fuck?
	I'm not even mad.
	I do actually really enjoy hiking.
	Well, there you have it, folks.
	She enjoys hiking.
	I do.
	And she's an eligible bachelor of the girl.
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	Brixon, when you gonna start juicing those pecs?
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	We gon' need that at say your insto-R-N.
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	That's right, men.
	This shows women shouldn't hold positions on politics.
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	Thank you, 69.
	Warlord69.
	Do you have a response to Warlord 69 in the chat?
	Listen, I'm just going by reality here.
	You're not gonna, I can't even pick up a four AK-47 or whatever they use.
	I'm like 120 and 21% body fat.
	I'm not, who am I gonna, whose ass am I going to kick?
	If I have to, like, work for the war effort, I'll do the laundry.
	It wouldn't surprise me if that pregnant woman's fifth child's first words are, I hate feminism.
	It has already been subjected to too much degeneracy on this show already.
	Patriarchy, help the babe.
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	Yeah, hiking to the fucking fridge to be a little bit more.
	Oh my gosh.
	Third breakfast.
	Or second breakfast.
	Sorry.
	I can't.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, Josh.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	And it's not a green shirt.
	It's a green dress.
	It's a Tinkerbill dress.
	It's a what?
	It's like Tinkerbill.
	Indeed.
	Indeed.
	Let's see.
	Would you rather be in the forest alone with a random bear or a random man starting with you?
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	This is simply not true.
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	Sometimes I actually go four days without eating, so I can go without breakfast.
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	Four days has been my max.
	I did it three times last year.
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	Brian, you should have waited for me.
	I normally slept with someone within an hour, but I would sign a prem up, hit the boat, and done your laundry.
	You missed out.
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	I definitely missed out on her.
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	Probably fucking an Airbnb.
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	I'm surprised you're not asking one of these.
	Would you rather these crazy would you rather?
	Speaking of which, we never played the bow video.
	Cue the bow video, please.
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	That's exactly it.
	It's beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	It's like a guy.
	You're in the line for Mcdonald's.
	There's three people in front of you.
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	U. Needs to repeal the ban on whaling carpoons away.
	By the way, they all, they all agree to get to do the roast session.
	Before the beginning of the show, we tell them, this is gonna be a roast, it's a roast I like it's a roast.
	Honestly though, i'm surprised there's not more people coming to chew.
	You know for like, I don't mind the lion and uh, that's because they're checking out her only fans.
	I have a thousand subscribers.
	They would like me.
	Uh, would you rather?
	You thought they would like you?
	Yeah, okay.
	oh wait brenna had some notes too blafist donated twenty dollars there may be some confusion here intermittent fasting does not mean occasionally not eating very quickly Oh boy, Loose Pussy.
	Energy donated twenty dollars.
	You let him hit it raw.
	You didn't have second thoughts.
	Now you a single mom.
	Now you a single mom.
	You said, i'm a have his kids, don't care if he's here or not.
	Now you a single mom.
	Can we get a raise?
	Hashtag, get the rock.
	Can we get a?
	Just a raise of the feck bricks and underscore some guy, underscore you who donated twenty dollars and one cent.
	How come I didn't get a new woo gamer girl noise also girl with the tattoo on your navel.
	I can fix you if you bow.
	I make 150k, but i'm 43 with a dad bod, decent face and deal like a kin of corn thoughts, Thoughts on that?
	No, it's okay.
	Damn, rejected.
	I'm getting more.
	You're getting more what?
	Tattoos.
	Okay.
	Going around the table, would you rather come across a random bear or random man in the forest?
	Go ahead, Ava.
	A man.
	Man.
	Man.
	Bear.
	Man.
	If I'm being serious, man, but a joke.
	Log Paladins donated $20.
	I don't think I ever really got a good answer from Jake for my question.
	How many whatever guests have you bought?
	Zero.
	That's the answer.
	Gorlock?
	Yeah, me and Golok.
	Got it on.
	But that's the, I forgot about Golok.
	Winning Rome, you know?
	Isn't she Mexican?
	She's whatever.
	We have a 20 from Marley.
	Do you guys know Marley?
	Is this your friend?
	I have no idea who that is.
	All right, Marley, thank you for the $20 super chat.
	Appreciate it, Marley.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Guys, $20 TTS.
	We are doing a row session.
	Get it in.
	Last call.
	Bear or man?
	I have a decent life insurance policy.
	Bear might be the best option with the way society's going.
	But no, a man.
	Okay.
	A man.
	Yeah, man.
	Interesting.
	But you said bear, right?
	She's the only one who said bear.
	Josh donated $20.
	Would you rather go on a date with Glumpo or respect yourself?
	Glumpo will put you into $80,000 of debt just to feed her.
	Glumpo got an appetite like a black coal chair number two.
	What the fuck, dude?
	Guys, behave yourself.
	Clever.
	Behave.
	Can we roast her?
	Say something about her.
	Would you guys rather be in the woods with Desiree or a bear?
	Go.
	That's a hard one.
	Desiree would like for sure do you.
	Oh gosh, if you still a bear.
	Honestly, like, what would you do?
	That's honestly the real answer is Desiree.
	If she's watching, you better block her.
	You better.
	Wait, you would rather have Desiree.
	So you do like her.
	What?
	No?
	Brian Deller as a child.
	Jade, what would you say?
	The blonde in the second chair.
	If I had a video out there of a dude blasting his baby gravy all over my face, I'd e-know about it.
	I said I was very not.
	It's not like it's a hidden camera.
	I said I was absolutely sure about that.
	Absolutely sure.
	What about you now?
	What about you?
	You're on punked.
	I'll take pictures here.
	Griffin donated $20.
	Even it's the best chick there.
	Amber is the color of her energy.
	Does anybody know this song reference?
	I saw that live.
	I saw 311 Laura.
	Why?
	Is this like some guy who's simping on you who's sending this?
	Or did you mention 311 earlier?
	No, I didn't.
	Is that your ex-boyfriend?
	Oh, so it's some dude who knows you.
	Do you know who Griffin?
	Do you know a Griffin?
	A Griffin?
	I do know a Griffin.
	Yeah, it was Griffin.
	Griffin just wrote that.
	What does it say?
	Does it say the last name?
	Here, I'll just say that.
	Griffin donated $20.
	Even it's the best chick there.
	Amber is the color of her energy.
	Maybe he's just a stranger.
	Do you guys have like a song?
	Is that like a thing with your friend Griffin?
	Bro, let me put you on some real music.
	No, I don't like it.
	Is that how you pronounce it?
	Porteced?
	That's something.
	What?
	That spider.
	Okay, anyways.
	Good talk.
	It's staring.
	I know it's staring at me.
	And I'm like, where were we?
	Oh, Brenna has some bullshit notes that she wrote, but I'll read them anyways.
	I should have.
	Did you really have a gay boyfriend?
	Yes.
	I don't believe you let that.
	Oh, you're asking if that was real or not.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Just because you file copyright claims on Reddit doesn't remove those videos that you post off the internet, you dumb blonde.
	Ouch.
	Oh, fuck.
	What the fuck?
	You say the guy stole a Rolex from you?
	Yeah.
	What kind of Rolex did you have?
	That was my graduation gift.
	What kind, though?
	Um, I don't know what kind it was.
	You got a Rolex and you didn't know what kind it was?
	I just knew it.
	Wait, the bow video.
	I don't know the names.
	No, I'm saying they have names.
	Let's do the bow video.
	I don't know the name of the ball.
	Why?
	Why would you get a Rolex if you don't know the name of it?
	I'm not obsessed with it like that.
	Let's play it.
	Oh, Marley.
	Trent and Elizabeth Kingsley donated $20.
	Just dropped in.
	We'll listen to the whole show later.
	Welcome back, Clincy, based panelist.
	Brixen, can you teach me the dance to magnetic by Illit?
	That would be because I haven't been on the show before.
	To magnetic.
	Oh, because I mentioned it last show.
	I don't know how to do it, but I've seen that K-pop music video.
	Southern Romeo donated $20.
	Brian, I heard you go off about your stupid, ridiculous resume for a southern male coming onto the show.
	I meet your criteria.
	How do I get on and stir some shit up?
	And yes, my name is actually Romeo.
	We're pretty selective, man, but you're welcome to DM him.
	Start a YouTube channel and establish some sort of you know he said he met the criteria well I'm not sure if well Matt donated $20 two blondes were driving to Disneyland when they saw a sign that said Disneyland left they started to cry and turned around and went home thank you Matt appreciate the TTS thank you man Naval tattoo.
	Some guy ooh, don't talk back to me, navel tattoo girl.
	I'm fine with tattoos.
	I said I would fix you.
	You missing out on this mid ass physique, also lying blonde be.
	You are no better than a fat dude's man.
	Splurge donated twenty dollars Glumpo.
	I know you appreciate how i've been cooking.
	It's crazy.
	Some man decided to humpo the Glumpo.
	Tilchi Pompo the single kid out.
	Glad you've got more brain than Chair Two has.
	Given what the frick.
	Yo Josh, keep it coming.
	We need somebody roast Ava.
	What can somebody roast Ava?
	Hillary Clinton, but with a high buddy count.
	I'm not like you're commissioning.
	I'm confused about Marley though.
	What's at Brian?
	I didn't at Brian.
	Maybe she can do the like Tts thing.
	okay uh bow video bow video okay interrupted interrupted yeah interrupt it huge massive bow that was great this is actually my ex-girlfriend believe it or not okay we should all close our eyes what the fuck's up Why is she running?
	I could do better than her first off, Maddie.
	I could do better, Maddie.
	Isn't it better?
	Does better exist?
	I could do better.
	She has fake titties, so that was the kind of thing.
	How do you know that?
	You don't know that.
	There's movement.
	What do you mean?
	That's my ex-girlfriend.
	I knew she had fake titties.
	Yeah.
	No, there's movement when she moves.
	I tried to get her to take out the fake titties.
	Right.
	It's a this is a true story.
	I don't know about the new ones.
	Definitely a true story.
	Did she bow to you?
	Was that you?
	She was bowing to you.
	That was me recording that show.
	Yeah.
	But why was she running, though?
	You don't want a girl that drinks.
	She's drinking a beer.
	She needs to be quick.
	So you don't drink at all?
	She needs to do the household duties with a quickness, son.
	What's that?
	I don't drink.
	You don't drink?
	Unless somebody does the champagne pop for the show, I don't drink.
	Lol Paladins, where are you at?
	The only time I drink is champagne.
	Autistics Anonymous donated $20.
	Blonde Lying Escort, there is a video showing the Red Sink video is yours directly in the OF team is also your September Piercing Joe video, Cupcake and more.
	Not deep fakes.
	Stop the cap.
	Strump it.
	Strump it.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Yeah, thank you, La Paladin.
	Can't roast Tava any worse than her boyfriend already did.
	She's still hooked on a guy that doesn't want her.
	She can't do better.
	To guy donated $20.
	Have Eva on again.
	The chat wants more.
	Boom.
	Roasted.
	Wow, that was...
	Thank you.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Okay.
	Where were we?
	We did the bow video.
	Anyone here down to hit the bow?
	Just checking?
	Anybody?
	Anyone against?
	I already did.
	You have to.
	Wait, where were you saying about the bow?
	You were saying something about.
	No, I would bow to my man.
	Absolutely.
	I would.
	No, but I thought you were like, why you were saying something about the bad?
	No, I was just saying, why was she running?
	Like, she was in her socks.
	Virgin.
	She's like, flipping around the wood floors, like, you know, little kids, how they're going to be.
	Yeah, she's drifting Tokyo Drift.
	I love that sense of edge.
	I wonder if you know how we do in Tokyo.
	If you see it, I got her singing again.
	Sliding to the side.
	Okay, what the fuck am I doing?
	Okay.
	Damn, bro.
	Oh, Brenna.
	Brenna.
	Warlord 69, you woo donated $20.
	How are you got-fearing when you obviously lie?
	Holden of account and cannot admit to being a prostitute.
	Boom.
	Look, we don't even need a kid.
	She's not God-fearing.
	She said that her mom sends her Bible verses every single night and she can't recite one.
	Did she say that about it?
	They're really long.
	Can you recite a couple of them?
	So you don't read them.
	What's your favorite Bible verse?
	I can't memorize it.
	Favorite Bible verse.
	Favorite Bible verse?
	I don't know.
	My favorite.
	Everything was a lie.
	Yep.
	Tokyo.
	See, if you ask, if somebody even has a semblance of a background in Christianity, like your favorite scripture will be like, you know, John 3:16 or something.
	No, I really just read them and feel them and pray.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	I'm right here.
	I ain't supporting you degenerates with champagne.
	I support quality content, which bricks and supplies every week.
	You, on the other hand, are not worth anything.
	Oh, shit.
	Roasted.
	Mr. Galisa, what donated $20.
	Eva has more bodies than the Arlington Cemetery.
	She has been ran through more than the Holland Tunnel.
	She collecting STD-like Pokemon.
	Gotta catch them all.
	I think you meant the girl to the right of me, and that's not how you spell Pokemon.
	Roth underscore PSA donated $20.
	Watched the live last night, still thinks something is in the water in SB making people vote badly.
	You know what's going on?
	Drink bottled water.
	Vote responsible.
	Wait, Austin, can you Google this?
	Apparently, Santa Barbara, there's radon.
	Southern Romeo donated $20.
	Under the city.
	Brian.
	Going to make me do this haha.
	Film school graduate off the highway podcast.
	We took it off YouTube because my former partner works for Disney now.
	Plus more.
	So where do I send my resume?
	Well, if you uh if you have samples of you either engaged in debates or any sort of situation.
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	Brixon, you really do be finding the worst digits.
	I would roast the filthy blonde whore.
	But I am literally at a lost for words for the first time in years.
	The show really needed Andrew today.
	I think the show enjoyed.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Thank you, Jim.
	I appreciate it.
	I appreciate it.
	What?
	Did you find the thing about the radon in Santa Barbara, bro?
	The way?
	I think it's radon.
	What's radon?
	Radon zone map for Santa Barbara.
	Is it radon?
	It's the.
	Yeah, bro, it's the 1995 map.
	Can you uh uh the underscore ed underscore sink donated $20.
	She met me one day as she was leaving the bathroom.
	She got off to my lamina flow when she turned my handles.
	The handle of my plunger is in the shape of Brian's dumpy.
	Boom roasted.
	Damn, roasted.
	Joshua not Josh donated $20.
	Glumpo loves the roast.
	And the turkey.
	And the chicken.
	And the dogs.
	They're eating the dogs.
	They're eating the pets.
	They're eating the pets.
	Does the panel think people are eating cats, ducks, and geese?
	Wait, what's the truth?
	But head donated $19.99.
	I sneak in my own house.
	It's 4 in the morning.
	I've had too much to drink.
	Said I was out with the boys.
	I creep in my bedroom.
	I slip into bed.
	I know if I wake her, I'll wake up dead.
	That was beautiful.
	Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $20.
	To the panel, if you go out to eat in Santa Barbara and see Brian coming out of a restaurant, go home, there's no food.
	Madison, job security equals forklift and flatbed license to haul Brian around.
	She is getting blonde lying be underscore some guy underscore you who donated twenty dollars and one cent.
	Hey lying blonde be worst mistake of your life.
	You came on a show where pretty much every man in America will know who you are.
	Might make money now, but the wall comes quick.
	KF.
	Cats slash boxed wine.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Thank you Lola.
	I said this earlier in Discord, but the show didn't need Andrew.
	He would have derailed the show calling out all of the women on the show for being false Christians instead of focusing on the P2T.
	Peach Pidget.
	That's true.
	I don't know why you would try to roast me in that comment when you're smelling so bad.
	Shut the fuck up.
	That was rude.
	Girl, what?
	Wow.
	Wait, somebody smells bad?
	Who?
	If she says you smells bad.
	She tried to say I have S C D's and I'm like, girl, you fucking smell.
	I have coffee, breath, sure.
	Wait, wait, what did Ava say?
	She said that I have S C D's when the comment was made about her.
	Oh, I said I think you're talking about the girl on the right.
	Oh, wait, so you're saying I'm coming up with a third grade insult to see that I stink bad.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	I watched the stream last night, didn't see much of Brian, but I did hear him out of breath every time he had to take a few steps.
	That's true.
	Look, I. I. There was a lot of walking.
	Okay, a lot of walking.
	Wait, can you guys continue on with it?
	We know how to be friends.
	Operation Pussycat.
	Here we are.
	Look at that.
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	Oh, my God.
	Yes, Haitians do eat cats.
	You are talking about a country where they have eaten humans recently.
	Their own neighbors put up a wall to keep them out.
	Thank you, Jim.
	He's talking about the Dominican Republic, I think.
	Yeah, I know geography.
	Okay, I knew what I know what he was talking about.
	The Dominican Republic.
	Uh, so wait.
	Are you saying that Ava smells?
	That's very inappropriate.
	I actually have it on good authority that Ava does not smell.
	And it's actually you who smells, and you're trying to die for it.
	Josh donated $20.
	Okay, Brian, I hear you, but I'm not good at listening.
	Glompo, please don't eat me.
	I have more to live for than chair two.
	Eat her instead.
	I know you can process plastic in the tension under those ruffles.
	The king donated $20.
	Greetings from across the pond.
	Just woke up.
	No kick out or rage.
	Quit.
	Disappointed.
	When are you going to get more based Brits on the podcast?
	Diversity, Brian.
	Where is it?
	Have I had a British guy on the show?
	I don't know.
	Oh, Bevo, that motherfucker.
	I need to get this guy back on the show.
	Just don't be there anymore.
	At least does not look like she smells of lies and co-HK sucking.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Thank you, Warlord.
	Smelling bad can be fixed with a shower and deodorant.
	Your lack of morals is permanent.
	Thank you.
	I do probably smell bad because I've been sweating a lot, but um, I don't know what to do.
	You can't undo dick on the internet.
	You know, you can undo calm in your mouth on the internet.
	I don't seem to be able to do it.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	That's what he's doing with me.
	Well, I don't seem too worried about this.
	I'm not defending it.
	I said I probably do smell.
	If she says she does smell, at least she's not lying.
	I'm gonna pretend like you didn't miss my dick herself.
	Whoa.
	She just called you a whore liar.
	Did you have a response?
	What happens now?
	Yeah.
	Great, we're gonna end the show.
	I can already tell that I don't like you.
	Tell you what, here, look, how about this?
	I will give you a $2 bill.
	If.
	I know you need it.
	If you admit.
	If you admit that you're.
	A.
	She was a hooa.
	B, she was a hooa.
	Give me all the tips from the podcast and all.
	Fuck no.
	I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
	You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
	I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
	Blind lying the underscore some guy underscore you who donated $20.1 cent.
	We can all see the hurt on your face.
	You FKD up, but the patriarchy is here to save you.
	Repent, try orthodoxy, do it before it is too late.
	Everything you did will be played back for you at the end.
	But head donated $19.99.
	Ah, I like all the ladies' knockers real.
	No, no, no, no.
	Wait.
	Disney?
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	Bayavo, the cuck that looked like sit from I say Andrew really hurt his fee fees who here has fake tits show of hands you're so nice, thank you.
	Really?
	Oh my god, she's lying about the fucking fake titties too.
	Oh my god.
	Really?
	You can't even see my tits.
	How would you know that?
	I looked at your Instagram.
	You got some fake titties.
	Okay.
	Oh my god, what?
	She's even lying about the fake titties.
	You don't have fake titties?
	No.
	Have you ever had lip filler?
	No.
	She doesn't mind being called a whore.
	She does, however, object to being called a prostitute, even though we've all seen the advertisement for escort services, even though she isn't worth the prize.
	Do you have any work done?
	Yeah, I'm both.
	Max K donated $20.
	She just admitted she'd do anything for money.
	Like a who would.
	No shame.
	Eva, your personality is winner.
	Glumpo, you're better than most.
	Me.
	Okay.
	Thanks.
	Here, I'm gonna blast through these so I can wrap the show.
	Mr. Genesa, what donated $20.
	I heard there was a small earthquake in Santa Barbara.
	False alarm.
	It was just Brian walking around wheezing like an asthmatic.
	Justin Martin has donated $20.
	Just let the liar sit there and go for your longest share of record, Brian.
	Two-hour roast session.
	Let's fucking go.
	Maybe we could do one of those, like, uh, you know how Twitch, there's subathons.
	We did a TTS-a-thon.
	Blathis donated $20.
	My wife asked me how I felt about breast augmentations, and I told her my position on the matter is quite simple.
	If I can touch them, they are real.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	MN underscore Trans Public and donated $20.
	Boys, the lunatics are lying.
	I have three videos in my face of people eating cats in O from the last two months.
	The propaganda machine hates it with sheer desire to hate Trump.
	Wake up, ladies, and soy beta cucks.
	Ava simp underscore you who donated $20.
	If you are smelling anything, it's the leftover dried-up crusty baby batter on your breathe from that of video.
	Boom roasted.
	By the way, what movie was playing?
	What movie was playing?
	Did you put a clip up?
	The Rosetta Stone donated $20.
	Red Sync today, head into oil at tomorrow.
	She should team up with Desiree.
	Ah, yeah.
	There was a Red Sync.
	Can you at least admit to the Red Sync video?
	Josh donated $20.
	Guys, I can smell THRU the screen.
	EVA smells like a winner.
	Plastic Liar smells like caked coom.
	Glumpo smells like an ice 84 core.
	Blob Paladins donated $20.
	L for the entire world when the most attractive and the best relationship material girls are both heroin addicts.
	About you, too.
	When the best relationship.
	Material girls.
	They're saying you guys are the most attractive and the best relationship material.
	But also heroin, so.
	Wait, you said you've only gotten Botox done?
	Yeah.
	I believe that.
	I don't know why that's.
	Oh, yeah, you're the believable.
	I don't work in that.
	Oh, I thought you said you know now.
	I'm so tempted to just pull up your Instagram and show that you have fake titties, but I also don't want to pull up your Instagram.
	Just do it without that.
	Ah, shit.
	It fucking popped up on my screen.
	Okay.
	What the porn?
	Bro, this chick has fake titties.
	Just make you ask some fake titties.
	What do you got?
	Gummy bear?
	You got the fucking gummy bear?
	You got the gummy bear fake titties?
	Like some motorboat fake titties?
	What do you got?
	What kind of fake titties are we talking about?
	Oh, my.
	Why is she lying about?
	Why are you lying about the fake titties?
	Tell me, are you blonde?
	I don't dye my hair.
	This is my color of my hair, as you can see.
	The things are going to explode.
	Does it look like I color my hair?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Of course.
	Well, the blonde color is naturally ombre.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's where she does it.
	That is colors.
	Yeah, if you consider this blonde, I don't know.
	It's kind of dark to me.
	You're saying your natural hair.
	She's been colored.
	Yeah, that.
	Yeah, that's so.
	I don't know.
	Looks hard.
	All right.
	Last two things here we got.
	I just blast through your nuts here, just like that guy blasted on your face in the video that I saw.
	I'm sorry.
	It's just.
	Normally I'm not this vulgar, but it's just like, bro, you're such a liar.
	Okay.
	You said, why is dating so hyped?
	I'm out here building an empire.
	Creating something mean.
	I almost want you.
	Do you have your cell phone on you?
	No.
	Okay.
	Creating something meaningful and pouring energy into my career, health, and relationships with family.
	If dating happens, fine, but it's certainly not at the forefront of my mind.
	I'm fiercely independent.
	Conservative, by the way, and Christian.
	And feel deeply fulfilled by the life I'm building.
	Sure, men are always chasing me.
	But in the past few years, I've struggled to find meaningful connections with those who show interest.
	I'm patient, waiting for the right one who compliments my journey when the time is right.
	Ava for the win0304.
	Ava, slape that slape, slap, slap at the base, man.
	Slap.
	Slap at the.
	I don't think.
	I will, you know what?
	This is, is California a mutual combat state?
	Texas is.
	Is California?
	I don't think, you know what, though?
	The Pacific Northwest.
	I think Washington, mutual combat is allowed.
	You need to go.
	We're almost done.
	We're going to wrap.
	That's disgusting.
	But would you guys be down to fight each other right now to the death?
	do it.
	Good talk.
	Okay.
	You said...
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	Yo, thank you, lovely.
	She just naturally has a contoured face, also.
	No makeup along with the non-coloured hair.
	The lying is so out of control.
	Panel, please call her out more on the hair color that she just lied about.
	I did dye my hair before.
	I haven't dyed my hair in about six months.
	It doesn't matter what you think.
	that's what is so crazy about that she's a slut and she knows it MN Nundus Cortrans public and donated $20.
	Ladies, you joined the army and want out, so you decide to get Prego and use it to get discharged.
	What's your next two moves?
	Keep it and be a good human, or take a trip to the ab clinic and pay with your sign-on bonus.
	We got a bunch coming in.
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	This whore could not tell the truth to save her life.
	And women constantly call men narcissistic and sociopaths.
	Shaking my head.
	Yo, Jim, thank you for the TTS man for you.
	Trenton Kingsley donated $20.
	Detective Brixon going hard on the fake tattoo investigation.
	You ladies got to respect the fat guy.
	If not, or future.
	You mean this?
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Butthead donated $19.99.
	Ah, fake tits rule.
	These chicks arethead.
	want to like get it on that came through pretty interesting uh so So, Brenna or Brinkley or whatever the fuck your name is.
	I don't know.
	You said you're fiercely independent.
	Independent of who?
	Men?
	No.
	I want a man in my life.
	Vector donated $20.
	Brian, you may be fat, but I'm sure you wish you weren't.
	You can just identify as skinny.
	Just tell everyone you're transling.
	I identify as a 155-pound shredded.
	Can we pull up my personal Instagram?
	I. What's that?
	Holy.
	Wait.
	The very first.
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do, but I used to too.
	Wait.
	Sorry.
	What?
	I used to be.
	Scroll down.
	Let's go.
	I used to be.
	I used to be pretty thick.
	Back in the day.
	Oh, my name's Brenna, and I'm a fucking lying whore of photos.
	I'm just going to say I'm tired.
	Yeah, and I have a long drive.
	We're wrapping up.
	We're wrapping up.
	I'm just saying that right now.
	I literally at the black church.
	This is the last paragraph.
	I literally tired.
	Jake, confirm.
	Is this the last paragraph?
	Last paragraph.
	Last fucking two paragraphs.
	Okay.
	You strongly disagree with the idea that couples should split the bill on the first date.
	If a man asks me out, it's his responsibility to take care of the evening.
	What was that?
	Okay.
	I'm a hardworking woman building a business from the ground up, and I deserve a partner who values that.
	When I'm comfortable in a relationship, I'm more than happy to contribute.
	But mutual respect and effort come first.
	I'm glad you're reading out my well-written answers.
	Thank you.
	Of course.
	Oh, audio is muted.
	You promise.
	I will three work this mid-body for you like an FN meth addict who just got out of jail.
	Also, Brixon, I can smell your gut-fold cheese from here.
	Hit the gym.
	Rude.
	Thank you, Uu.
	Appreciate it.
	So you think men should pay for the first date?
	Yeah, he would ask you out, right?
	Do you think women should not have her face and record it?
	Yeah.
	What she said.
	Record themselves taking a blast to the face.
	I didn't record myself.
	I'm not saying he did.
	I just knew that that's what was going to be that.
	It's like a loophole thing.
	This is right.
	It was the loophole thing.
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	Fiercely independent from the truth and reality.
	She should partner up with Desiree.
	Oh, I'm so tired.
	I also can't stand the idea of men being lazy or sleeping, and every successful person I know starts their day with purpose.
	Health and wealth are the foundations of a good life, and everything else follows when you're committed to those.
	And to be blunt, I don't align with atheists.
	I need someone who has a strong sense of faith, whatever that may be.
	You need to know yourself, believe in something bigger, and stand by your principles if you can't.
	We're simply not on the same wavelength.
	Did your OF pimp write this for you?
	Uhu, if the biddies aren't fake, what are the under blank scars from don't lie, we have proof.
	Under titty scars, I don't have scars.
	Okay.
	Do you have a typer for your OnlyFans?
	Normally, I don't go there with OF girls, but I feel like it's warranted since you're lying about everything.
	You have a typer?
	No.
	Can somebody verify if she's been messaging people on her OnlyFans while she's been on the podcast?
	Normally, I give charitable and give the OF girls a pass on this, but you've just been fucking lying the whole show, so it's just kind of annoying.
	Anyways, we're gonna wrap it up.
	Rothundus Corp PSA donated $20.
	Jake, if the plastic strumpet can get a Rolex, you can get something better than that lady watch.
	Chose the watch.
	I was thinking the same thing.
	She even thinks it's Lol Paladins donated $20.
	She even lies about her multiple names.
	She chooses names of famous people so that when you Google her names, it won't be what you see.
	I bet she wouldn't even tell the man she's dating her real name.
	Liar Blonde is just a life support system for a Vajin.
	Thank you, Schlong Connery.
	All right.
	Let me.
	We're going to do Twitch raid, then we're going to wrap the show.
	Oh, the radon.
	We got the radon map.
	That's very important.
	Fake, can somebody believe all women?
	Nah, blank.
	That's cap.
	A bitter baby mama is the devil.
	That's facts.
	You're such a bad bitch.
	What is this fucking rap?
	A bad bitch, but I do not understand.
	Fancy baby shower, but no wedding, and no man, showing baby off.
	Thank you for that, man.
	Thank you.
	The TTS.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	I thought that was like song lyrics or something.
	Yeah, it was a song lyric for sure.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Stream manager, who we're gonna raid, who we're gonna raid.
	Pull up the radon map while I'm trying to find this guy.
	Joshua Not Josh donated $20.
	Don't get so defensive, blondie.
	It's 2024.
	It's okay to be a whore.
	Just keep giving us more.
	Don't you enjoy contributing to the degradation of society?
	How does it feel to contribute to depression?
	Josh donated $20.
	Ushi Eliot Glumpo is hungry.
	Everyone run for your lives.
	Not you, plastic lying strumpet.
	Wouldn't want to damage all that work done on you.
	Elf for the wannabe day, go put your head in the bowl.
	That's such a compliment that everybody thinks I have all this work done.
	No.
	I just have Botox.
	Nose looks like Michael.
	Oh, my God.
	Everybody said that my whole life.
	Smooth criminal.
	My nose looks like Michael.
	You don't have a nose job.
	No, I know.
	I definitely don't.
	That's not nice.
	What's the raid thing?
	What's the raid thing?
	Stand by your principles.
	Do you have a OF management company?
	Because I'm pretty sure they're rubber.
	Let's wrap things up.
	This is nobody cares about that.
	The OF management company or whatever.
	And even guys subscribe, even if they know you have that.
	Still fraudulent.
	They want to see your content.
	Still fraudulent.
	Okay, so we're going to raid over on Twitch Woe Grandma.
	If you can pull that up for us, Austin, she's playing World of Warcraft.
	We're going to do a raid for her in just a moment here.
	Actually, don't pull her up quiet yet because I got to do the call to action.
	Or at least the outro.
	Okay.
	GG.
	Oh, audio is muted.
	Can you unmute it for me?
	Chanausa donated $20.
	God damn, your nose is huge.
	Can I sniff a line off of it?
	Talking about me?
	Talking about me?
	I got a big nose.
	What do you want?
	Okay.
	GG.
	Well played.
	To the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Austin, really quick, can you pull up the Twitch, like our Twitch shout-out?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv.
	No, no, no.
	Our Twitch shout-out page.
	Yeah, it's all good.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Jake will be joining us.
	Guys, before we wrap up here, if you're watching on Twitch, drop us a follow in the Prime Sub if you have one.
	Long Paladins donated $20.
	Stop roasting Blondie.
	She isn't even here willingly.
	She is being held in Brixton's studio against her will.
	She wants to leave, but her management company will be mad.
	Should I just...
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins.
	Appreciate it, man.
	But had donated $19.99.
	The blonde chick got blasted in the face.
	That's awesome.
	Okay.
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	Blondie should have a gaming channel.
	She's already playing Wonderful Craft.
	So we will be live again.
	Thank you, Jim.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, let's see here.
	Also, Discord, really quick.
	Let's do a little Discord.
	Guys, discord.gg/slash whatever.
	I'm going to be posting some stuff in the behind the scenes, I guess.
	And oh, we posted the BTS of the kickout from Tuesday show from last week, which was fucking wild.
	If you guys want to see a disc, can you just pull up on the stream, StreamYard, the disc?
	Yeah, discord.gg slash whatever.
	Guys, join the Discord.
	We got over like 10,000 members, so be sure to check it out.
	And then let's see here.
	We're going to do the raid.
	We're going to raid WoGrandma if you want to pull that up on Twitch.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	Really appreciate it.
	Oh, we got tabbed over.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Yeah.
	Twitch.tv.
	We're going to raid WoGrandma.
	Guys, she's playing World of Warcraft.
	Be nice to her.
	We're going to give her a raid.
	Go ahead and you can play the audio.
	I'm going to send the raid here in 10 seconds.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	And let's see here.
	The catalyst.
	She's playing retail here.
	She's 82, 83.
	She's a legend.
	She's the best World of Warcraft grandma ever.
	Oh, raiding.
	I sent the raid.
	There was a quest to open it.
	Did you see that?
	Now we'll watch her for 10 seconds here.
	See what she has to say about World of Warcraft.
	Here comes whatever.
	You want to use it on a much higher level.
	She's a legend.
	Be very there.
	It is.
	There's the raid.
	The raid went through.
	82, by the way.
	That's impressive.
	Yeah, she's great.
	There it is.
	Welcome, whatever.
	There it is.
	Oh, Brian, if you're on.
	Oh, thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	You're welcome.
	You're welcome.
	Welcome, everybody.
	It was good to see you.
	It is a whatever raid.
	It is.
	It is a whatever raid.
	Okay.
	All right, you can stop that for now.
	All right, guys.
	07s, 07s in the chat.
	We'll have to put, I know you guys want to pull up the rate on that, but next time.
	Okay, 07s in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	Like the video on your way out.
	Yeah, it was a good job, guys.
	GG, well played.
	Good night, guys.
	We'll see you on Tuesday.
	Shout out to the chat.

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