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US Congressman vs. Feminists (ALMOST KICKED), E-girls, OF Girls! 1 SHOW LEFT! | Dating Talk #128

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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and location.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, my name is Cindy Zhang.
	I am 23 years old.
	I am an OnlyFans model.
	Welcome, welcome.
	What about you?
	Thank you.
	I'm Rocky.
	I'm 30-something.
	Whoa, 30-something.
	30-what?
	I'm 30-something.
	I'm between 30 and 40.
	And I am an adult entertaining entertainment administrative assistant.
	I'm from LA.
	Okay, I'll just say you're 35.
	Okay.
	Hi, I'm Korea.
	I'm 19, and I worked at the airport, but you're skooing me right now.
	Push your mic this way.
	This way?
	Yeah, that way.
	Then I'll like scoot it.
	Scoot it?
	Scoot it, yep.
	Your name is Korea.
	How do you spell that?
	K-O-R-R-E.
	Is that a nickname or is that your first name?
	My government.
	That's your government name.
	You gave us the government name.
	That's bold.
	That's my government name.
	Okay, very good.
	You're not supposed to do that?
	No, you can give your government.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name's Kenzie.
	I do social media and OnlyFans.
	Age?
	No, 19.
	19, okay.
	Social media.
	What kind of social media do you have?
	I do Instagram.
	I do a lot on TikTok, Snapchat, and I'm going to start streaming soon.
	Is there something?
	Oh, Twitter.
	Is there anything else you do on social media?
	That's it.
	Well, you're an adult content creator, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I said that.
	Did you?
	Didn't I?
	Yeah, that was like the first thing I said.
	Okay, I'm brain dead, apparently.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Catherine.
	I'm 26.
	I'm a substitute teacher.
	I'm from Fontana.
	Okay, welcome.
	Hi, my name is Asia.
	I am a, well, I go to school to be a medical assistant, and I do social media.
	Age?
	I'm 25.
	25?
	All right, welcome.
	Hi, I'm Anna.
	I'm 19.
	I'm from Lompo, California, and I am a sophomore in college, and I'm a server at a restaurant.
	Welcome.
	Hi, I'm Salem.
	I'm an adult content creator and a model.
	Very good.
	Age?
	Oh, I'm 20.
	All right.
	Hi, my name is DeMaya, and I'm 25, and I work for the CDC on Edwards Air Force Base.
	Oh, Nick.
	Audio sounds.
	Okay, I'll get up and fix that.
	Wait, so you work.
	Are you in the military?
	No, I'm a civilian.
	Oh, okay, civilian contractor or whatever?
	Or not even a contractor.
	Not even just civilian.
	Is there a term for that?
	They have contractors.
	They have civilian or in the military.
	Guys, can you hear her?
	Yeah, she's really solid.
	You got to project your voice a little bit.
	They have contractors, or you can be in the military or a civilian.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hey, everyone.
	My name is Madison Cawthorne.
	I'm from the great Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina, but I now live in Florida, Naples.
	I do commercial real estate, used to be in politics.
	But, you know, I just spend a lot of time out in the water, have great friends, love shooting guns, love my dog.
	You know, I have a really fun life.
	So, very happy person.
	All right.
	Age.
	I am 28 years old.
	28 years old.
	And you were previously in Congress, correct?
	I was, yep, represented the 11th District of North Carolina.
	So it's basically everything on the western side, basically anything above 1,500 feet elevation was mine.
	But it's great.
	We bordered Tennessee, so you just got great people on both sides.
	You really can't beat it.
	You know, served for two years from 2020 all the way through 2022.
	It was just wild time to be in Congress, but it was very exciting.
	Are you going to think you're going to run for run again, you think?
	We'll see.
	I really want to start a family first.
	But then, you know, it's just that we're our country is just teetering on collapse.
	Regardless of what side of the political spectrum you're on, life is just getting worse by every metric.
	And so I think it's just, it's a sad day when men in America are strong women, people who want to change their country decide to stay on the sidelines just because they're afraid of some negative articles or anything like that.
	And it's just, I think, we have a massive lack of men who are wanting to stand up and defend what makes our country free and great.
	Okay.
	And so recently, I think this story broke two days ago.
	You might be more privy to this than I am.
	What is going on in the Senate?
	Dating podcast.
	It's sort of related because it's actually kind of related to dating, sort of.
	You know, so the date, the Daily Caller, a fantastic news organization, they broke a story of basically somebody.
	I don't know if he was an adult content creator.
	I don't know anything about the gentleman that was in this video.
	I know that he was a staffer for a senator, and we have hearing rooms where you have committee hearings.
	And apparently, he went into this area.
	I just saw one screenshot and filmed a homosexual erotic video of just full-on sex in the U.S. Senate in a hearing room.
	And so, anyways, I had talked about some sexual perversion that was going on in Washington, D.C. a long time ago, and it just got really riled up.
	And so now there's things trending on Twitter about, you know, just.
	That sounds very serious.
	It was something.
	It was something.
	Have you ever been in that exact room?
	Like, did it look familiar to you?
	Thank God.
	So I was in the House.
	So I'm on the South side of the Capitol.
	That's on the north side of the Capitol.
	I've not been in that particular hearing room, but it was a Senate.
	It was a Senate room.
	And so, which is even more egregious because the Senators are the ones who do much more to the governing.
	The House, they have an election every two years, so they're much more accountable to the will of the people.
	But the Senate are the people who approve judges, approve the people who are appointed to these three-letter agencies that run your life.
	And so to have a Senate person who represents an entire state, one of his staffers, doing this.
	I don't know what side of the aisle he was on, but that's just that whatever tax dollars are being spent on for a guy to film a porno.
	I'll paint a picture for you.
	I'll paint a picture for you.
	He's in this congressional hearing room and he's bent over all force.
	All force.
	Wow.
	He's taken it up the up the west.
	How does Borat up the voice?
	You have to use the Borat voice for that.
	How does Borat refer to the Borat?
	Borat.
	You don't know Borat?
	Borat?
	No.
	Borat.
	You guys don't know Borat?
	No.
	Wow.
	How does he refer to it?
	He's like literally the epitome of comedy.
	I don't know.
	In any case.
	I have no clue.
	I have to.
	I must be living under the rock.
	Moral story, Madison for president.
	The Anus.
	He's getting it up the Anus in the congressional hearing room.
	So I wonder what hearing was most recently held before that sex tape.
	Like it was some super serious hearing about Eastern European geopolitics.
	It probably triggered something.
	And then he just was like, I got to get the stress out somehow.
	Let me just join OnlyFans and film a quick video.
	Yeah.
	Join OnlyFans.
	Huram!
	Grid one motorsports.
	I got to boost the audio home.
	Stacked panel.
	Happy to see a politician out of Thera Marniyama and can't walk off the show.
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	All labia matter.
	Yo, Brisbane.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	ALM.
	The Armani armor was a very good one.
	Grid one, good to see you in the chat, man.
	Okay, so we're going to go around the table once more.
	So, what is your current relationship status?
	Are you single?
	Talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult, harem.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting with you going around?
	Go ahead.
	So, I am currently single.
	My last relationship was in April.
	I haven't really dated long term.
	Just been like dating here and there.
	What's the longest, though?
	I feel like half a year.
	Six months?
	Amala underscore Ik Panobi donated $200.
	Was that the petrol?
	That literated anyone who was engaging in immorality on Tuesday.
	Especially OnlyFans people.
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	On your leisure, The Breakfast Club.
	Amala Ekpunabi.
	Okay.
	I know I'm in a wheelchair, so I'm really short, but that went over my head.
	I really hit me.
	Thank you, Amala Ekpunabi.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so you six months.
	So I have like multiple relationships, and they last about at the same time.
	No, not the same time.
	No, like different years.
	Like, I'm monogamy.
	I like one.
	Monogamous death.
	You're charitable.
	You don't want to share them?
	No, loyal.
	Gotcha.
	You're in Maine.
	I love only one man.
	Wait, so you've been single since April.
	So nothing since April.
	Like, you've been celibate since April?
	I have been celibate since April.
	Stop the cap.
	Yo, Chad, is it still a little too loud?
	We had to readjust the you've been celibate since April?
	Yes, I have.
	I don't believe that for a second, but it's true.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Okay.
	So your longest relationship was six months, you said.
	Yeah.
	And but so, okay, and you're 23.
	When was that relationship?
	Well, my last was April.
	But was that the longest one, the six-month one?
	Yeah, it lasts like around like half a year.
	And that ended in April.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But I have other relationships.
	My first relationship was when I was 18.
	And then.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am polyamorous.
	I do have a partner.
	It's complicated.
	My longest relationship was four years.
	That was a while ago.
	Stop counting.
	Longest relationship, four years.
	How long have you been seeing your current partner?
	About a year.
	One year?
	Okay.
	I'm assuming they're.
	Is it a unidirectional, like he's also seeing other people or it's a she.
	I don't know if it's a she, but uh-huh.
	Okay.
	So he's exclusive to you.
	Yes.
	But you're not exclusive to him.
	Correct.
	It's complicated.
	It sounds complicated.
	And so since you're polyamorous, how many people are you currently involved with?
	I guess.
	I'm not.
	So it's pretty complicated.
	What do you mean?
	So I'm not involved with anybody else right now, like sexually.
	But I'm polyamorous, so there's a little.
	So there's periods where you might be.
	Yeah, more closely.
	Are you saying the options open?
	The options, sort of.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so when you were polyamorous, what's the most amount of people that you've seen at one time?
	At one time.
	Oh, my God.
	I stopped counting.
	That's one of those things.
	I don't really have a tally for that.
	If you have dated couples, I've had orgies.
	No, no, no, not your total, not your total partners, but like at one time, if you're seeing like three dudes at a time, five to three.
	So, what's the highest, though?
	That was probably the highest.
	Okay, five roster.
	The rotation.
	The raw roster.
	The roster is not the raw roster.
	And I'll add that question for everybody here.
	So, what's have you ever had a roster or rotation?
	A roster?
	I mean, I have hoes.
	I always have hoes around, you know?
	Where are the hoes at?
	Where are the hoes at?
	Sexy red in the house, you know?
	So, uh.
	So we do that.
	Yeah, so, uh, so, yeah, I don't, you know what I mean?
	You gotta please.
	So, you currently have hoes.
	I always got hoes.
	You gotta always have different area coats.
	Or sane.
	How many hoes do you currently have?
	I don't really like, so we're just like, I don't like.
	Yeah, I just talk to them as like friends.
	Like, I'm not like interchangeable.
	Like, I'm not like sexually active.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, when I think of hoes, I think that has a kind of specific definition.
	Usually, hoes are options.
	So it's like people around that.
	If you wanted to have sex with them, you could, but it's like not necessarily you're with them, but there are people who will always have sex.
	Have you had sex with any of your hoes?
	There you go.
	No, not my hoes.
	Like, people that actually respect me and treat me like a queen and a princess, then like we can go there.
	So, what just you have hoes?
	Like, I have people that are interested in me.
	So, they're like in your order.
	If I gave them a chance, they would take it.
	So, basically, what it sounds like is like, you know, this is a debate we hear a lot of times with like guys who are basically saying, like, oh, I don't like when my girlfriend has a lot of good guy friends or close guy friends.
	Because we all at the table know that if a girl like said, you know, texted with a guy, he's like, oh, he's like my brother.
	But if you texted him, it was like, hey, do you want to sleep with me tonight?
	He'd be like, I will be there in 10 minutes.
	And so I'm guessing there are options for you, but you're their main target.
	Yeah, we're friends.
	We're not like close.
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't say they know everything.
	I've never heard guys referred to as hoes, but I mean, you know what?
	These guys, they're chasing.
	They're chasing.
	You don't call girls hoes?
	I mean, yeah, I've called girls hoes before.
	I have.
	I don't call girls hoes.
	I don't care.
	We're talking about teenagers.
	I call them slaves.
	Just kidding.
	Wait, so I'm not even mad.
	He's not mad.
	I'm mad.
	Me and Rocky have our chest and keys on.
	You're what?
	We have our slaves in a Kyle.
	One sec, one second.
	Donated $200.
	She means simps.
	Yeah, that's what I was saying.
	I sing the wrong album.
	Wait, guys.
	Hey, guys, guys.
	Guys, do not talk during the TTS, please.
	Okay, grid one.
	So he said, but they got nothing gonna get nothing.
	Okay.
	Do you want to address that?
	Is that what you mean?
	You don't use.
	I'm answering.
	I don't.
	Okay.
	The effects in here.
	Okay.
	So, no, I don't use these guys for money.
	I just think I'm an independent woman.
	I make my own money.
	Donated $200.
	My spring flight goes like this.
	You just donated $200 to say that.
	Like this Thank you Great.
	That's good.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you.
	So basically, grid one motorsports, who gave a great donation, he said, would you define these guys as simps?
	Yeah, I would say they are simps.
	All right, I feel like that settles that.
	Settled.
	You got those that are simps.
	That was a good translation, grid one.
	Good translation.
	Wait, but so just curious.
	So you said that you've got some hoes, but then you also have some guys who are taking a bit more, maybe a guy who you're taking a bit more seriously.
	If, yeah, if a guy that I like, I'm sexually attracted to, we vibe together.
	Yeah, if you vibe.
	I can see us dating, then yeah, I'd be down to get into business, you know?
	So you currently have a guy that you're getting down.
	No, not right now.
	I told you I'm celibate right now.
	Okay.
	I don't chase after men.
	You don't chase after men?
	No.
	Why is that?
	Because that's not what you want to put out in the universe.
	You're going to attract the wrong type of men that you don't want to spiritually get connected with, you know?
	So men should chase you?
	I assume.
	I feel like it should be both parts.
	Like, if you're interested in a guy, you definitely should show thing is going to bother me the money.
	I'm sorry.
	Can you take it off?
	My bracelet?
	Yeah, it's just banging against the table.
	But yeah, no, like, I wouldn't say like you're like, what do they call it?
	Passenger, not passenger.
	Passenger princess.
	Passenger princess.
	What is the one like in bed where like the guy does everything?
	Yeah, like I wouldn't say like a pillow princess where like he needs to do everything.
	What?
	But like you definitely need to show like so each reciprocated.
	Yeah, reciprocation.
	Because like, so I'm from the south, right?
	Like I'm a prince of the south.
	So basically in the south, how it normally goes is most girls like want to be pursued by a guy, which I think is the right way things should work out.
	But you know, it's been like that for ages, though.
	A shrewd girl, you know, she might like drop her handkerchief so he has an opportunity to pick it up and be like, oh, hey, you dropped this ma'am.
	You know, so like you're being shrewd girl.
	Shrewd.
	Shrewd?
	Shrewd.
	Yeah, like do you need a definition or should we?
	Yeah, so like black slot, like shrewd basically meaning like someone who like thinks in like a tactical way.
	No, no, like shrewd being like, oh, I have a really good plan.
	Like if I drop this right in front of him, he'll have an opportunity to pick it up, then he can talk to me.
	And so then like if a guy's shy, you're giving him an opportunity to make the first move.
	Yeah.
	And so is that kind of what you're saying?
	Like if you like a guy, you're gonna pursue him like that.
	I feel like my risen person is just like looking at him and then he needs to just like pick that up.
	That like he needs to approach me.
	I wonder why young men are so confused.
	Hariz is looking at him.
	Read the mind.
	Yes.
	Did you say that you were an OnlyFans model?
	I am an OnlyFans model.
	This is just one question.
	I've kind of a question I've always wanted to ask about this.
	Is do you not feel like you because you talked about how like if you chase guys, it's gonna attract the wrong kind of guys, you know, betas casually you're not gonna like be attracted to spiritually relationally.
	Do you not feel like OnlyFans kind of like attracts like just these like weak kind of guys who just want to sit in a corner and I don't know pay a girl to do something instead of earning it?
	So you're talking about how my OnlyFans Simpson no no.
	He's saying like the fact that you do OnlyFans.
	He's saying does that affect the type of guys that come at you?
	Like it definitely does.
	It definitely does.
	I definitely get a lot more like guys approaching me, but at the same time, I can like pick it off.
	No, he's saying like the type of guys, the quality of the guys.
	Like the quality of guys.
	Yeah, I think it does affect the quality of guys.
	We'll dive more into the whole dating thing when it comes to if you're involved in OnlyFans.
	I want to get around the table really quick on everybody's relationship stats.
	Before that, though, I just want a little more clarification on the hoes thing.
	What does that mean?
	Like, what are you saying?
	I don't get it.
	Like, you've got dudes around you that just do shit for you, basically.
	Hoes?
	Like, have you ever heard of the song Sexy Red?
	I'm looking for the hoes.
	What do you say?
	Your hoes are your male friends.
	Now you know how I get it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Hold on, guys.
	Guys, please stop.
	We need one person speaking at a time.
	There's way too much crosstalk here.
	One person at a time, please.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, like my hoes just, it's just like a flirty, like, it's not, it's not that deep.
	It's just so you're currently.
	Y'all have hoes.
	Like, are these potential guys you would sleep with?
	Potential guys?
	Or dates?
	They could be.
	Like, if you know, sometimes, like.
	So you're saying you're getting attention from men that you're not dating really and that you're not sleeping with.
	Or just friends.
	I think I would assume a hoe is a bit different than what a friend is.
	It's just options.
	Yeah.
	It is just options.
	Hold on.
	Friends, but they're hoes.
	I'm a little confused.
	I'm not even going to lie.
	I brought it up because of the sexy red song.
	I just said, I'm looking at who the fuck is that guy?
	I just wanted to say it.
	To be fair, though, she's a pretty famous song.
	Wouldn't you, like, if they were potential?
	If they were potential hoes or potential people that you wanted to sleep with, like, wouldn't you kind of want them to be like a friend first?
	Like, wouldn't you want to like that person?
	That's never the vast majority.
	That's not how the vast majority of relationships start.
	It's not like, let's be friends for a year and then, no, it's like it starts off to some degree within a romantic context.
	Either you meet out somewhere, you meet on a dating app.
	I'm not going to be friends with a girl for a year.
	She's the same.
	That year, sleeping around with a child.
	No, but not even a hoe.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm losing brain cells for people.
	People that you have.
	All right, moving on.
	On your phone.
	What's your relationship status?
	Rocky.
	Oh, it's good.
	Situationship.
	Okay.
	Situationship?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so how long have you been in the situationship?
	Well, for like eight months.
	Eight-month situationship.
	Okay.
	Is that your longest anything?
	Longest relationship?
	Well, we were dating, but we broke up, but we're kind of like talking and stuff.
	So it's like.
	Wait, so it's an eight-month on-and-off again situationship?
	No, we were dating for eight months.
	But you're still seeing.
	We broke up like we broke up like two months ago.
	Something like that.
	When's the last time you saw him?
	Yesterday?
	In February.
	Wait.
	February.
	February?
	February.
	It's December.
	You said you broke up two months ago.
	It's a long distance.
	You're in a long distance on and off again situationship.
	Yeah.
	He's from Jersey.
	He's from Jersey.
	Okay.
	Everything's legal in Jersey.
	I love Jersey.
	Wait, it's okay.
	You saw him eight months ago.
	I'm okay.
	Cost times donated $207.
	Brian tried to stay for the pod.
	Gonna go in the sauna.
	Hey, grid one.
	Ladies, pick your guys carefully.
	If you see red flags move, calm them, girls.
	Yo, dude, thank you, man.
	I'm about, I'm gonna trigger your other one that came in before the show.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, it's good to see you in the chat, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Good to see grid one in the chat also.
	Here, it's a button.
	There it is.
	There we go.
	Sorry, Brian's donated $207.
	Hey, Brian, panel, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, early.
	One of the best things about having a Christmas/slash family is watching your kids rip open presents.
	Oh, okay.
	That's wholesome.
	It's a key to long-term happiness, Emo.
	Yeah, okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Merry Christmas to you, too.
	Happy New Year.
	Merry Christmas.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Anyone here have a family, like kids?
	Just you?
	You got kids?
	Anybody else have kids in that?
	Okay.
	All right.
	We'll get into that in a little bit.
	So, okay, you're in a situationship, but you haven't seen him since February.
	In person?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever seen him in person?
	Or well, if you're not going to be able to do that?
	Yeah, well, actually, when I was like 17, I like snuck out across the country.
	Yeah.
	How did you get there?
	My grandparents don't know till this day because I stayed with my grandparents.
	Okay.
	Well, how did you drive?
	You took a plane?
	No, I took an airplane?
	I took a plane.
	Oh, okay.
	Because my aunt was going to Vegas to see my cousin.
	So I was like, oh, I'm going to just go with her.
	But I didn't go to Vegas.
	I went to Jersey.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, question for you.
	You haven't seen this guy since February.
	You guys kind of broke up two months ago, but you're working it out, it sounds like.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So are you seeing other guys?
	That's a yes.
	No comment.
	Were you seeing other guys during what was it ever exclusive?
	Me and him?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	During the three guys.
	Okay.
	Like, he was my man.
	Oh, was he?
	He's still my man.
	He's still your man.
	Even though you guys broke up two months ago and you're in a situationship.
	I have him on a leash.
	You have him on the leash.
	Well, the follow-up question I was going to ask you is: is he dating other women?
	Oh, no.
	No?
	You say that, like, he can't get other women.
	Like, he just.
	Because I have him on a leash.
	You have him on a leash.
	What does that mean to have him on a leash?
	You're obsessed with himself.
	Yeah, he's like obsessed with me.
	How?
	How?
	We just, like, we have like genuine love for each other.
	We're like trying to like work on ourselves before we like take it like to the next level type shit.
	So you said that you guys were on and off again, kind of?
	No.
	Because you said you broke up, right?
	Yeah.
	Who broke up with who?
	No comment.
	It was just like.
	Who broke up with who?
	It was.
	It was just like, we just needed time.
	Okay, he dumped you.
	No, no.
	It was mutual.
	Like, we needed time to work on ourselves.
	Okay, it was mutual.
	He mutually dumped you.
	Mutual.
	So.
	Well, if he dumped me, then like he's going to be on like me like every okay.
	How did the breakup go?
	Pretend I'm your boyfriend that you have on the leash.
	Where's the leash?
	Okay.
	Who started?
	Because it's mutual, but somebody has to unless there's some big blow-up fight or something.
	Well, it kind of was like a big blow-up.
	Then we're just like, you know what?
	Fuck this.
	We still love each other.
	That's why we're like still talking to each other type shit.
	It's just complicated.
	That's why.
	Situation shit.
	Goals.
	Wait, goals?
	They love each other.
	No, that does not sound like goals at all.
	That doesn't sound like.
	How about just like being in a functioning relationship?
	Yeah, of course.
	Go ahead.
	Let me ask you: Do you want a man who's on a leash?
	Let me just give you a scenario.
	Bump in the night.
	You guys are both in bed together.
	He's moved across the country for you because he's your man.
	You're like, you beckon, you snap the finger.
	He came.
	You guys are living together.
	You're in bed.
	All of a sudden, you hear some goons trying to break in the front door.
	If a guy's on a leash, do you feel like you're going to have to get him up?
	Like, go protect me.
	Or, like, I mean, what's it mean to have a guy on a leash?
	Like, that just feels like he's a he got a whole gun and everything.
	Okay, well, see, we like that.
	I like that, Mr. Jersey.
	You ain't no Yankee, all right?
	But, anyways, but like, what does it mean to have him a leash?
	I think it's to like a certain degree.
	Like, I don't want him like interested in like a whole lot of like.
	So, do you have a technique for that?
	Do you just straight up like go in like love bombing, then like kind of pull the love back a little bit?
	Like, you know, okay.
	Well, just some kind-hearted manipulation.
	Wait, a certain degree, I guess.
	Don't, okay.
	All right.
	Pay attention to the conversation.
	We'll read it later.
	Thank you, Bender the Offender.
	We'll get to it in a bit.
	So, okay, you are you are seeing other guys, though.
	Is that correct?
	No.
	But, okay, when I asked, you were like, Like, there's other guys in the picture, right?
	She got hoes.
	I have hoes.
	Yeah, that might be it.
	Like, if I wanted to go out and, like, you know, is that why you left the airport?
	Too many hoes?
	Oh, yeah.
	I had a lot of hoes.
	How does your guy feel about you having guys around you that want to sleep with you all the time?
	He doesn't care because he knows who eats it better.
	Oh, what?
	I'm going to just be honest.
	Wait, that's how, like, that's his claim to fame.
	Like, I eat her pussy better, so I've got her on lock.
	Is that a good idea?
	Like, yeah.
	So he's.
	I'm not.
	I'm actually.
	He knows that too.
	I'm not kidding.
	Yo, Todd, thank you for the raid, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Thank you, dude.
	That was a World of Warcraft sound.
	Oh, dude, you played that.
	I brought some memories back, man.
	I was a freaking blood elf paladin.
	Oh, shit.
	Let's go.
	Oh, and we have Flan Life with a gifted 10 memberships.
	Thank you, man.
	You play World of Warcraft?
	I mean, back in the day, yeah.
	Did you play Classic or was it the Classic?
	Yeah, it was Burning Crusade, like when I was 14.
	I was heavy.
	Okay.
	You said a Blood Elf what?
	Blood Elf Paladin.
	Paladin.
	Yeah.
	Rhett?
	You played Rhett.
	Oh, of course.
	Retribution.
	Grid one.
	Grid one.
	Thank you, man.
	Wheels over there is thinking he has never seen so much copium in one room.
	Cope.
	Got a man on a leash.
	You ain't got a man.
	You have a sin.
	Uh-oh.
	Break it off.
	Work on yourself, and maybe a man will find you.
	Oh.
	All right, grid one.
	Okay, grid one.
	Shit.
	What is copium?
	He's copium is like, so cope.
	Copium, it's like opium, like it's a drug, and the cope is so strong that you're like addicted to the cope.
	What?
	Is that actually what I mean?
	I can Google it.
	Are we talking like cope and seed?
	Like cope?
	Cope with it?
	Copium.
	Free leash.
	It combines cope and opium.
	It's used satirically in this joke term used to describe a fictional drug that one consumes after suffering a loss, defeat, or disappointment.
	It is used when the facts do not match up with reality.
	So some copium.
	All right, well done, grid one.
	That's good.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I'm just, you said you got hoes, but you're dating this guy, and there's maybe other guys in the picture.
	No, and you have him on a leash.
	How do you have him on a leash?
	That's where.
	That's what I'm confused about.
	It's not so much about having him on a leash.
	Like, we're just in the middle of the day.
	Would he appreciate you saying that, by the way?
	Like, would he agree with you that he's on a leash?
	Because that's.
	He would agree with if he was sitting here right now, he would say.
	Cheeks donated $200.
	What kind of diabolical shenanigans am I listening to?
	No, thank you.
	Not men that are with these slot signs.
	Oh, my God.
	Be nice.
	Be nice, Cheeks.
	Be nice, Cheeks.
	No real man will ever be with these hards.
	Let's be nice.
	Okay, we've got to be nice to them.
	You know, they've come on the podcast.
	Gotta be nice.
	Gotta be nice, Cheeks.
	How did you meet this?
	Did you meet him online, this guy?
	Yeah.
	How?
	On Roblox.
	No way.
	To be exact, it was Roblox.
	Oh, there she goes, exposing me.
	Right.
	I love my girl, but it was Roblox.
	I don't want to move.
	Could you?
	Would you mind grabbing me a cup of water?
	You want me to grab you a water?
	No, no, no.
	Just stay there.
	Nick will come.
	Hang on.
	Thank you.
	Oh, my gosh.
	You met him online.
	I didn't want to make this so federal, but yeah.
	Yeah.
	I met him through Roblox, but we've known each other for life.
	No, I'm dead serious.
	We've known each other for like eight years.
	But then we got into like being serious, and then I went to go see him, and then the rest is history, basically.
	I feel like he would agree too.
	Like, yeah.
	He's probably venting you to his guy friend.
	So I've never got me.
	I've never played Roblox.
	That's like, is that kind of like Minecraft or something?
	Kind of.
	Is that like Minecraft?
	Yeah.
	But it has like more like mini games.
	You can like interact with people.
	You need to play a mini game.
	I need to play with a girlfriend on Roblox.
	Yes.
	A bad bait.
	I've heard of so many Roblox love stories and stuff.
	Oh, that is like a very intense love story.
	I never knew.
	I'm here for that.
	So how did what's the name of your character on Roblox?
	Okay, I'll drop my app, peanut butter underscore jelly09.
	Thank you.
	I made a Roblox.
	Okay.
	So what was his message?
	I don't know if you can share his user.
	I don't know if you're able to.
	Like, how do you, how does he, do you know what you look like in the game?
	like do you guys share instagrams no because he was just like you're really good at the game Like, I'm a fuck.
	Well, it was like more of a, I was, like, on this, like, role-playing game, but we weren't role-playing on the game.
	We like moved on to Discord.
	Like, we talked on Discord.
	Can you share pictures on Discord?
	Yeah, we can video shots.
	Discord's lit.
	So, who made the first move?
	You guys were.
	Honestly, it was so long time ago.
	I can't even remember.
	It was her.
	She made the first move.
	Wait, were you also?
	You're her friend, right?
	So were you also on the Roblox movie?
	You know, I wasn't there when they met, but I knew that they met, if that makes sense.
	I wasn't there actively during the game, but I knew what was going on.
	This doesn't sound like a standard first-person shooter.
	I gotta be honest.
	I think it's a kids' game, isn't it?
	It is.
	I had it 13.
	We were kids.
	Yeah, we were children.
	Maybe eight years.
	Do you guys have like an age gap at all?
	Are y'all the same age?
	No, he's 22.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	Is that a yikes?
	I don't know if it's a yikes.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so oh, the question I was gonna ask is, when it comes to the whole leash thing.
	Seriously?
	If he was sitting there right now, would he appreciate you saying that you have him on a leash?
	No.
	Like, would he agree with you that he's on a leash?
	He'd probably be like, yeah, I got her on a leash too.
	Honestly.
	Okay.
	And he does.
	You both have each other on a leash.
	So you're both walking each other in some sort of inception leash scenario.
	Okay.
	So, okay, you met him on a video game.
	He lived in New Jersey.
	You lived in California.
	You lived.
	So you've met him in person once?
	No, when we started dating, like, I went back and forth back.
	You would fly without your parents knowing.
	That was the first time.
	Okay.
	How old was he?
	Before I was 18.
	17.
	How old was he?
	Okay, that's kind of excessive.
	He was 18?
	Oh, I mean, 18.
	Wait, what was that?
	How old were you?
	17.
	17.
	Yeah.
	Did I switch it?
	My bad.
	That's not bad.
	What?
	Can you get me some water?
	I'm thirsty.
	Yeah, we'll get you some water.
	Okay, so how many times have you flown to Jersey?
	I went, like, twice a month, I want to say, for, like, two weeks.
	Wait, you went twice a month for two weeks.
	So twice a month for two weeks.
	So four weeks?
	There's four weeks in a month.
	So you would just.
	Does anybody else see?
	Oh my gosh.
	I typically rate women who dress like escorts as a 4.5 by default.
	But I'm going to knock you filthy beach down to a 2.5.
	Whoa, whoa.
	I demand the CDC lady call in an airstrike.
	Not even a damn thing.
	You got to call him an airstrike.
	Here, I'll send in that thing.
	Okay, there you go.
	Thank you, Jay Butler.
	Appreciate it.
	Good to see you.
	he's a urologist by the way wait so you've did he ever fly to see you No.
	Who would pay for the flight?
	You or him?
	He paid for it.
	Every time?
	He'd pay?
	Okay.
	I'm just going to say there's no way a guy who you're flying across the country like twice a week to see, and he's paying for your flights every time is going to be like, yeah, say I'm on a leash.
	I just don't.
	He's got a gun.
	He's not coming off that kind of guy.
	Like, I think we have a different definition of when a guy's on a leash.
	Like, that sounds like just a beta bitch to me.
	Like, a certain extent.
	Are you saying like his loyalty level to you?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I got you.
	But right now, you're not in a relationship.
	It's complicated.
	A situation.
	Situation.
	You need to find it.
	It's exclusive, but they're not like labeling it, but they're like not asking other people.
	Yeah.
	Let's just call it.
	We always do so well in Congress.
	You guys don't make it so confusing.
	How well they've dined.
	Okay.
	But so you are dating other men.
	That's what it sounded like.
	No.
	Or like, there's other guys in the picture.
	No.
	Didn't you say you have hoes?
	No, but she said there's people that she could hit up.
	Yeah, like if she wanted to.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Hold on.
	Beaten cheeks donated.
	Let's be nice, cheeks.
	Let's be nice.
	These girls are not even fine.
	Yet are grabbing these simps like nothing.
	Males, you better not be subbing to these harlots at all.
	Because if Jesus can't save these homes, why are you trying?
	STD check.
	Thank you, Cheeks.
	Thank you.
	That's even nice, you know?
	Oh, bro.
	Paper towels, paper towels.
	Mayday, Mayday.
	Man down.
	Man down.
	It's not too bad.
	I can do that.
	Thank you, man.
	Your relationship status, go ahead.
	I am single.
	My longest relationship was eight months, and it was in high school, so I don't know if that really counts.
	What year?
	What grade, I guess?
	What grade?
	If it was like senior year, maybe it counts.
	No, we ended.
	It's like freshman year.
	We ended our relationship at the beginning, middle of 2020.
	So you were sophomore?
	Oh, I was a sophomore.
	You were a sophomore.
	Okay, well, you said you're 19, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, and that was eight months, and you've been single for how long?
	I had another relationship during this year.
	I'd rather not disclose when, but.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, why is that?
	Why is that?
	Because it conflicts with another guy that you were dating?
	No, no, just my what I do.
	What you do?
	I'd rather like the internet not know my relationship status or when or yeah.
	So it kind of sounds like maybe you're seeing a couple different guys and you don't want them to know the time.
	No, not at all.
	It's strictly because of what I do.
	What do you do?
	OnlyFans, social media.
	Oh.
	And wait, why can't they know because you do OnlyFans?
	I'm just curious.
	It conflicts with people because people on.
	Sometimes they get weird when you have like a menu.
	Yeah, like people don't people are less driven to communicate with you and follow you on OnlyFans if you are in a relationship.
	And I did make my relationship public at one point and it kind of screwed up business a little bit.
	So I just kind of like to keep that out.
	But I will say it was this year and it lasted about five months.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we've definitely heard that that's a pretty common thing that for female content creators, female OnlyFans, girls, etc., they typically are going to either not disclose their relationship status or just lie and say they're single because it hurts their bottom line, basically.
	Right.
	I am single, though.
	Well, if you were in a relationship, I don't suspect you would disclose you're in a relationship because of what you just said.
	Right.
	But I am saying I am single, though.
	But maybe you're not.
	But you're single, but you might not be because it hurts your bottom line.
	But I am.
	But she is.
	She's actually single, but she might not be.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, that's pretty common.
	So basically lying.
	What?
	I'm not lying.
	am i not disclosing well no but if what do you mean if if If you say that you're single, but you actually have a long-term boyfriend, are you saying that's not lying?
	No, no, that is not.
	I think if I was in a relationship, I wouldn't say I am single.
	I think I would just say I don't want to talk about it.
	Because I think that is kind of like another level of disrespect to be like, I'm single.
	You know, it's one thing to advertise like you're single, and it's one thing to just lie.
	Yeah, but if your boyfriend is involved to some degree with your production on OnlyFans, he's probably going to even tell you to say that you're single because it's going to hurt your bottom line.
	I'm not going to like that.
	I'm not going to out any of the girls at the table, but just for the viewers watching, a lot of girls, especially if they're involved in content creation or OnlyFans, if they're in a relationship, sometimes they'll say they're in a relationship, especially if they're doing content with that guy on OnlyFans.
	But if they're just doing solo content or just GG girl-girl content, they're going to lie and say that they're single because it does hurt their bottom line when it comes to the simps.
	So, what about you?
	I'm single.
	Okay.
	My last relationship was like in December.
	It was with my baby's father.
	My longest relationship is five years, but that was back when I was like 21.
	Like, it ended when I was 21.
	Okay.
	So you were in the.
	How long of a relationship were you in with the father of your children?
	I was like over a year.
	One year.
	Okay.
	So, and that ended like 12 months ago, about a year ago.
	And you just have one kid, right?
	You have a son or daughter?
	A daughter.
	Okay.
	Why did that end?
	The relationship with your is baby daddy the term?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, that's the term.
	There's gotta be a better term than that.
	It ended because there was like trust issues, but also we wanted different things.
	But overall, just the foundation of our relationship wasn't really good, and it ultimately ended us.
	Did you mean to have a child with him?
	No, it was just by accident.
	But then you chose to keep it?
	Yes.
	That's great.
	I mean, good, that's really good.
	How old's your child?
	She is 20 months.
	But you said you've only been dating him.
	You only dated him for.
	When I found out I was pregnant, I was nine months.
	So then we tried to stay together.
	Okay.
	You know, kind of after that, that's when we were kind of like, okay.
	Because even when I did find out we were pregnant, we were kind of like on the rocks.
	So our relationship wasn't really doing too good.
	Yeah.
	And then I found out I was pregnant, so kind of more for the child, we tried to make it work.
	But things get really real when you have a baby.
	And I think that if you guys don't value the same things, it's not going to work.
	Did he want the kid?
	No.
	Like he, he's a really good dad and he's involved in her life and everything.
	But originally, no.
	Like when we were kind of trying to make that decision, that was kind of a big thing because he wanted me to go more towards the abortion route.
	And then I didn't.
	Well, praise God, one, that she didn't get an abortion.
	That's right.
	Did he support you when you did?
	Yeah, ultimately, but it was kind of like something that I do feel like I had to stand up against.
	And it was something like he easily, it could have intimidated me into being like, okay, I'm going to do it.
	But ultimately, that was a decision I knew I did not want for myself.
	Yeah, because in California, you can have an abortion up to nine months, right?
	That's crazy.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, and I actually did go to like Planned Parenthood and everything.
	But it was always one of those things where at first I was kind of like, oh, I'm.
	It's a personal decision for everyone.
	But being there, I always told myself, if it has a heartbeat, I'm not going to do it.
	Like, if I know it has a heartbeat, I'm not doing it.
	And when I was there, I found out she was six weeks.
	So that was six weeks.
	And I remember the doctor was like pregnant, like nine months pregnant.
	And she was just like, okay, like it was very quick, very rushed.
	And I just kind of felt like it wasn't for me.
	So I was like, you know what?
	He's still involved in the picture?
	Yes.
	You guys are co-parenting?
	Yes.
	What's the custody arrangement?
	50-50?
	Joint custody.
	Joint custody?
	Does he pay child support?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So he's like being a dad.
	Yeah, he's being a dad.
	He's like, Within the week, we probably have her split very evenly.
	And so, would you say when you talk about trust issues, is this like questions of him maybe cheating or is it like financial trust?
	Yeah, it was kind of like situations with that that started those trust issues.
	Okay, here, I'm gonna pull up a chat, then we'll continue on with the relationship status.
	Bender the offender, what are the panel's thoughts on making paternity testing mandatory at birth before the birth certificate is signed?
	I figured I'd pull this one up now since it's somewhat topical.
	So, going around the table, what do you guys think?
	Uh, do you think we should have make paternity testing mandatory at birth before the birth certificate is signed?
	Starting with you, Cindy, then we'll go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	So, basically, like a test to see if they are your baby daddy, if the father that you claim to be is the actual biological father, yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I mean, you don't want to have like someone else's kid, but that happens.
	Hey, Blueface tweeted saying that no, you're good, you're good.
	Okay, what about you?
	I don't think it should be mandatory because not everybody's in that situation, but it should definitely be one of the options that they give you at the beginning when you're getting tested and doing things like that.
	So, definitely, they should offer that just like they offer a plan B and stuff like that, just in case.
	Definitely.
	And I assume that this would be so this would be at birth.
	This would be something you're in the hospital, they would take a test, make sure you know, probably get DNA from the dad.
	And yeah, what about you?
	Yeah, I agree about what you said.
	They should offer it like they offer plan B's.
	Okay, I agree with Rocky.
	I don't think it needs to be mandatory, but I think if you're in a situation where one of the people are questioning, then it should be an option.
	Well, I mean, to avoid all doubt, I think it well, okay.
	Well, go ahead.
	I think that it should be mandatory, like it wouldn't be a bad thing if it was mandatory, just because it protects the mother and it could protect the father as well, and it could also hold both parties responsible and accountable.
	See, I was going to agree with her, but then she made a valid point.
	Oh, I'm sorry, I was going to agree with her, but she made a valid point about it being mandatory.
	So, I agree with that.
	Um, yeah, I think it should be mandatory because it's really not going to hurt anyone.
	I think, if anything, it's just going to help the family in the situation.
	Sure, yeah, I agree.
	I think it should be mandatory as long as it's like free and like covered and like what she said.
	So, okay, yeah, I agree too that it should be mandatory.
	That way, that conversation doesn't even have to exist.
	Madison, what do you think?
	I just think, I mean, from a top-down level, I think it's really sad that our culture's at a point where we feel like we need to have this kind of stuff just because, I mean, especially like you know, the fact that guys are questioning if their girl has been sleeping with other people, that's really sad.
	But I think that's where our culture is right now.
	I agree with that completely because where I'm coming from, a relationship communication is number one.
	So, all of this kind of conversation and stuff like that, we're going to have that way before we're having any accidents or anything like that.
	So, that's definitely something that should be discussed beforehand, anyways, whether you're open or not.
	Yeah, I'm definitely in favor of it.
	And I'm actually curious what the chat thinks.
	Chat, even if it costs you money, let's say it costs you $100.
	Chat, if it cost you $100, but it would be done, that way you'd know, do the test, would you do it?
	I mean, that seems like a pretty fair trade-off.
	That's a yes for me.
	Would you, one in the chat, if you'd you're in favor of mandatory paternity testing, two in the chat if you don't care and you trust you, you have trust?
	A lot of yes, how many kids on here?
	I think 6,000, 7,000 around 6,000, I think.
	Damn, thank you, chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	Apparently, though, Madison, what I've heard is, and this is the statistic is this is among people who are seeking out paternity testing.
	When they do seek out paternity testing, I think it's, maybe someone in the chat, can you find me the actual number?
	But I think it's like around 30%.
	They find that the person who's seeking the paternity testing, turns out he's not the father.
	Turns out he's not in 30% of cases.
	I mean, that's disgusting.
	And this is the one thing where I feel like, because most of our government systems and things are so slanted towards giving children to the mothers.
	If it's a split up parent or something like that.
	But then a lot of times, especially if a girl, like, let's say she just started sleeping with, as you were saying, Cindy, one of her hoes.
	She's in a relationship, maybe married, whatever it is.
	She just is out clubbing with her girls, something trashy.
	And then she's like, oh, you know, I was drunk and then I had sex with this guy.
	And she knows this guy's just a piece of shit because he's like trying to be a homewrecker anyways.
	And so she probably would not want it to be a paternity test because she's like, that guy's not going to take care of my kid.
	And, you know, I think that it's a, it's, it's, I would assume that if we had mandatory paternity testing, it would be significantly higher rates than just 13%.
	Okay.
	All right.
	By the way, no name reacts.
	I saw here that you sent a $74 donation via Streamlabs, but it's the trigger to just read is 100.
	The trigger to for TTS is 200.
	So I just saw it.
	I don't want you to feel like we're skipping over you.
	um oh i had something related to this but uh do i want to actually we'll continue with the relationship status so So I think we got to you.
	What about you?
	I usually keep my personal life private, but I am in a relationship.
	We've been together for a year and some change now.
	All right.
	And is this your longest relationship?
	Yes, it is.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am single, and my longest relationship was probably like eight months, and it ended like over a year ago.
	Eight months, one year ago.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am single.
	And my last relationship ended.
	This was complicated, but it ended like four weeks ago.
	Okay.
	How long were you guys dating?
	Nine months.
	Nine months.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am single.
	And my longest relationship was three and a half years.
	And my last relationship was like almost three years ago.
	Okay.
	Madison, what about you?
	Yeah, so I'm single.
	I would say that, you know, my definite, I'm hunting a wife right now.
	I really want to get married, start a family.
	And, you know, it's just, my last relationship, I think we broke up in September of last year.
	You know, every girl that I've ever had is an actual girlfriend.
	I've asked, hey, will you be my girlfriend?
	You know, they're all solid women.
	I don't have a bad thing to say about a single one of them.
	I think I've had six girlfriends in my life.
	You were married at one point.
	I was married before.
	Yeah, we were married for a short stint.
	I wasn't a perfect husband.
	Politics was the main thing that got it.
	The man she got engaged to and the man she married were very different based on just about a year and a half of difference in life.
	But wonderful woman.
	Don't have a bad thing to say about her.
	But I go on a lot of dates.
	I'm very clear with the girls.
	I'm like, hey, I'm just looking to see if I want you to be my wife.
	Or you like me.
	And so I'm very clear.
	Like, hey, if it's not going to work out, I'll move on very quickly.
	Do you get a lot of girls sliding into your DMs?
	Man, especially when I'm in a relationship, I just cannot look at my DMs.
	That is just it.
	No, no, when you're single, though.
	Like, you're single now.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, like, I would say it's a healthy amount.
	Okay, a healthy amount.
	I mean, I slide in too.
	I'm not getting wrong.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I pursue.
	Wait, is that a wheelchair joke?
	If it's downhill, I'm really fast.
	But no, the but no, so in the Bible, when it's talking about like, you know, a man pursuing his wife, that the term when it says pursue, it is a military term.
	It is like be tactical, be aggressive, and not aggressive in a bad way, but like, you know, don't hesitate.
	You know, think through it, figure out how to accomplish your task, and then get the job done.
	And so it's a, you know, I think it's incumbent upon young men in our country when they find a girl they want to date to pursue them.
	Don't be trashy.
	Don't try and have sex with her on the very first date.
	You know, treat her like a lady, pick her up, bring her flowers.
	You know, if she lives with a dad, ask her dad's permission, whatever the situation is.
	But, you know, it's a, so yeah, I definitely, I'll slide into a DM once in a while.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	Nice, nice, nice.
	Wait, going back to you really quick, you said you're single, right?
	Both, actually, all three of you here on this corner said you're single.
	And you, well, I didn't really dig too much into your situation, too.
	There's no guys in the picture.
	Come on, there's some guy in the picture, right?
	Right now, there's nothing wrong with that.
	Like, I was, I've dated.
	I was going on dates and doing all that, but now I'm really not.
	Okay.
	Because no guy in the picture.
	Or do you have hoes?
	Well, like, what do you mean by that?
	Like, do you have a friends with benefits?
	Do you have a situationship?
	Yeah, we could say that.
	Are you on your phone?
	No.
	Would okay.
	I think we should yield to the substitute teacher.
	She could probably spot that the best.
	She's on her phone.
	I don't snitch.
	Just, guys, please don't be on your phone during the show.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, I guess you could say.
	What's up, Nick?
	Oh, okay.
	I guess you could say.
	I don't think she can hear you.
	We're good.
	Okay.
	Oh, I guess you could say I have friends with benefits, I guess.
	Okay, so you're not single?
	Yeah, I am.
	When's the last time you saw your friends with benefits?
	Yesterday?
	Maybe like 48 hours ago.
	Okay, how long have you been seeing your friends with benefits?
	Ooh.
	She has multiple.
	I know, yeah.
	There's not just, it depends.
	Which one are you asking about?
	Well, yeah, let's go into that.
	So, how many guys are you currently seeing?
	Let me between three and five.
	Three to five?
	Yeah, three to five.
	Well, how about how often do you cycle through the roster in a week?
	You know, I probably visit one on Monday, go see another on Wednesday, give myself a little break and see another on Saturday.
	And, you know, that's.
	It's interesting.
	Abdul?
	Yeah.
	Take the rock.
	Get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	I love Andrew Tate's too.
	I love Andrew Tate too.
	Specifically, Tristan.
	He's the best.
	I have a question.
	But so, question on friends with benefits.
	Are all of these guys that are friends with benefits?
	Are they basically, you made the judgment in your mind that none of them are eligible to move on past that?
	You're just filling a need.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Wait, so you're.
	Do you have a follow-up on that?
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So none of the three to five, can you give us a concrete number?
	Is it five?
	It's five.
	Okay, let's say five.
	Okay, we're gonna say it's five.
	You're currently friends with benefits, five different guys.
	So none of the five guys are you think are worthy of a relationship?
	Actually, maybe one.
	Absolutely not.
	Well, maybe one, just one, but the other four, they could kick rocks if they really had to.
	But one of them is probably my favorite.
	Like, I'll see him twice a week rather than like once.
	I have a favorite.
	And, you know.
	Cindy, if you can.
	So, okay.
	And how long have you been seeing each of these guys?
	A couple months each, you'd say.
	Yeah.
	And there for your, how, and I don't know if you were being facetious earlier, but like, how frequently are you seeing them?
	Like, it sounded like one per day per week, kind of.
	Ooh, I want to say that.
	I would say like three a week.
	Three a week.
	Three a week, but it's rotating.
	Yeah, it's rotating like Monday, Wednesday, Saturday, you know, maybe Tuesday, Thursday.
	Okay.
	And, you know, I have to, I have work.
	I have some people.
	Do they know?
	She's a busy girl.
	Oh, yeah, they know.
	They know.
	Maybe they know.
	They know that.
	And when you say friends with benefits, we're talking you're having sex with them.
	Some of them, not all of them.
	Well, what else is with the friends with them?
	Well, some of them, they just like smoke me out and we'll go get some like In-N-Out burger or whatever.
	Like weed, they get her weed, basically.
	Wait, so they pay for your weed.
	Yeah, they'll like come pick me up.
	They'll buy me weed, buy me some food.
	You pick them up or they pick you up?
	They pick me up.
	Yeah, I'm going to need a dip for this conversation.
	I'm holding on.
	I mean, maybe I'll pick them up if, you know, I don't know.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Okay.
	So they also buy you food.
	Yeah.
	I love In-N-Out Burger.
	Oh, I don't always fuck.
	See, that's what I'm saying.
	Some, like, I would say probably three of them, I'm fucking.
	Two of them, I'm not fucking.
	They just grind me shit and smoke me out.
	And genuinely, sometimes that's all a girl needs.
	That's all a girl needs.
	So let me ask you a quick question.
	Let me ask you a question.
	You're 19, right?
	Yes.
	I know on the West Coast, girls get married a lot later than on the East Coast.
	In the South.
	Let's imagine that, you know, you're fast forward to, like, you're like, okay, now I kind of want to stable relationship with me and we'll get married.
	What happens when he Googles you and pulls up this video and he's like, man, my girl is just going through like five guys every 10 days.
	Well, I would tell him that.
	I would tell him straight up.
	And you would want a guy who'd be like, yeah, that's cool.
	Well, I mean, you know.
	People change.
	Yeah, people change.
	know i've known a lot of girls there's no putting that back in the i know a lot of girls who've been sluts you know They've been sluts.
	And now they like to go.
	Wait, why did you?
	Don't do that.
	I'm just being for real.
	Some girls.
	Wait, why did you gesture over at your friend's mind?
	Because, you know, before she was in her relationship, you know, she had her little, like, you know, her little hoe vibe behind her.
	You mean during her relationship, too?
	No, not during her relationship.
	I can promise you, Korea was.
	Oh, sorry.
	During your situationship.
	But when she was really with him, she loved her man.
	Like, all about her man.
	But before that, before that, she was popping pussy too.
	She had to, like.
	What the fuck is going on on in Lompoke?
	What the fuck?
	You know, and then, you know.
	I don't know if you guys have ever been to Isla Vista, but there's, it's everywhere.
	Oh, Isla Vista's dejected.
	It's everywhere, baby.
	It's, you know, it's Quick Man off the street.
	I've got a question.
	So you're 19, right?
	Yeah.
	When, like, in your, you've probably, did you go to Lompoke High?
	Lompoke High School?
	Yeah.
	So were the chicks at Lompoke High, like, is it pretty?
	They be fucking?
	Fuck yeah, let me fucking...
	How early are...
	Because I'm on some boomer shit.
	I'm...
	I'm in my early 30s.
	I've met bitches in middle school who were saying, oh yeah, I lost my virginity.
	There was this bitch who got fingered.
	It was a whole thing in middle school.
	Everyone called it the flat iron.
	Bitches shoving flat irons in their pussy like what?
	You know, long pool isn't the 805 is a crazy place to be, okay?
	And that's just flat iron.
	A flat iron in her coochie.
	Like, when we say a flat iron, I got a long time.
	No, it wasn't on the flat girl.
	So, in the South, we call these fatherless activities.
	I mean, like, oh, yeah.
	It's just, this is just most of these girls are fatherless.
	This is long poke.
	Well, this isn't long pokebook.
	And that kind of gets back to the whole thing about when we were talking about having kids and paternity tests and all this stuff.
	Man, it is so important.
	Guys, if you are sleeping with a woman, there's a high opportunity that you're going to get that girl pregnant, especially if you're young, all this stuff, your potency is so high.
	And then, if you get that girl pregnant and then you're like, oh, I don't want to do this, you move on.
	Look, like, you are raising a culture of people who are just shoving flat irons inside of themselves.
	And it's a funny joke that we're talking about.
	And I just like, it's sad.
	It's so serious because it's gotten so normalized.
	But she had stable parents.
	That's why I stick to animals.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't have a stable daddy.
	My daddy a crackhead, but my mom, I love my mama.
	My mama loved me too.
	You know, she'd been there since day one.
	So I don't think your mom spanked you enough growing up.
	Oh, she did.
	She did.
	You got the belt?
	Hell yeah.
	I have a black mom.
	She spanked me to this day.
	To this day.
	She's probably going to spank me for black moms and southern moms.
	I hear that they spank the heart.
	That's not true.
	Asians.
	Asian people.
	Yeah, I have.
	My parents are Arab, but I'm sure Asian people get whooped.
	Did you get.
	Do you have a tiger mom?
	Was it tiger mom?
	Is that the term?
	The tiger mom?
	I have no idea what that is.
	You've never heard of it.
	Tiger mom?
	Yeah.
	No.
	I don't know.
	It's like tiger mom.
	Tiger mom?
	Tiger mom.
	It's like typically for like Asian moms.
	They can be very.
	Like, they want their child to like overachieve.
	Yeah.
	It's like helicopter.
	You guys haven't this.
	It's very competitive.
	No, yeah.
	Tiger moms.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Tiger moms.
	All right.
	Okay, so hold on.
	Five friends with benefits.
	Yeah, we'll say that.
	Only one with potential to only one with potential.
	Wow.
	I don't even know what to say.
	How many friends with benefits do you have?
	Good question.
	I'm a one-girl kind of guy.
	Yeah, how many girls?
	Okay, period.
	I'm a one-girl kind of guy.
	Do you have one, though?
	That's what I'm asking.
	I'm a one-girl kind of guy.
	Oh, so you can't answer the question either.
	Well, I have two.
	I don't reveal details about my personality.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	Hey, I got me.
	I got trained.
	I got some weirdos out there, you know, so I got to keep things under wraps.
	Oh, you have other girls.
	No, he has weirdos out there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he does.
	No, there's some fucking weirdos out there.
	I'll tell you that much.
	I find her and like probably literally like.
	All girls are princesses.
	Thank you.
	Wait, what?
	They are.
	What does that mean?
	Until a guy do them 30.
	That's when they 30?
	30.
	Does them 30.
	So you're saying like every girl is basically like a good Cinderella girl.
	But then somebody's screaming.
	They just haven't opened their heart because one guy did them wrong.
	Erroneous.
	That's true.
	Like she got hurt by someone along her way where she's not working her heart.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, so going back into this, so you've got five friends with benefits.
	That's the same question.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, you're 19.
	Yeah, I'm 19.
	Okay.
	I'm only going to be this young and hot forever.
	One day I'm going to be old.
	So wait, so just so let me translate that.
	So what you're saying is because you're young, one day you're going to be old and you'll be less attractive.
	You want to get.
	Well, it's like one day I'm going to like, I'm in college.
	Like I'm planning to settle down, like have a career.
	Like, I'm only going to be 19, like, going to SB on the weekend, partying for so long.
	Like, eventually, I'm going to get the promiscuity and that.
	Yeah, cut that shit out soon.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	She has goals.
	I got goals.
	Brian was born in the gold 30s.
	Oh, dick goals too.
	She's well-rounded.
	Well-rounded.
	That's a good word.
	Standing on the corner.
	That's crazy.
	But here, yo, like, here's the thing.
	Like, I'll know, guys.
	What?
	I want to ask the chat, Nick, if you can show the chat.
	Like, the first impression that you kind of give off, like, I mean, before you kind of went into the friends with benefits thing, like, you strike me as perhaps a bit more on the reserve side, at least initially.
	You've got braces, you got glasses.
	Like, I think that's what the boys like about me, though.
	Because I like look like anything you get straight A's.
	It's cool.
	I do.
	But it's like.
	So, like, the first impression is like, I would not assume that you are fucking three to five dudes at the moment.
	Like, I wouldn't assume that you have all these friends with benefits.
	Well, that's the same thing.
	It'd be the girls that you don't think about.
	That's the feeling.
	No, that's the crazy thing.
	Sometimes you think you can spot the promiscuous girl.
	But it's actually sometimes that's a good thing.
	I think that doesn't say anything.
	Sometimes it's like the shy.
	Yeah.
	They're not dressed really provocatively.
	It can be the shy children.
	I'm very shy in high school.
	Yeah.
	So you're now doing OnlyFans.
	No one.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You're saying you also had three to five friends with benefits, like you had a ho-face?
	No, she's saying she's a lot of people.
	No, I'm only saying, like, I was a shy girl.
	And now she wasn't.
	People wouldn't expect me to be doing this kind of thing.
	Cool story.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Grid one motorsport.
	Who's been meeting two years?
	Oh, dumb.
	Oh my god, what the fuck?
	Wow!
	Oh, my God.
	Jesus, grid one.
	He's going in.
	Okay.
	He loves us.
	Right.
	Ah, man.
	Okay, so, but so you said that you're like, you're sleeping with these guys, but you don't see anything in them.
	Like, for it to be a long-term relationship.
	Not really.
	Do they want more with you?
	And you're kind of like pumping the brakes?
	some of them they do and it's just like you're pumping the brakes on them can I Let me interject a question if you don't mind.
	This is kind of panel-wide.
	Do you guys not think that there is some amount of value that you have when you actually have sex with somebody?
	Yes.
	And that every time you give it away, you're kind of diluting, like, not your overall worth in the eyes of God or whatever.
	We're not talking about that.
	I'm talking about your value on the sexual marketplace for guys who are looking for a wife.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like the society, like, sex has been so normalized that a lot of people have lost the like, you know, like, I feel like a long time ago, sex was like, oh, like the first time I have sex, I wanted to be like, you know, this fantasy and like da-da-da.
	But I feel like now it's so normalized that people have lost the, you know, like intimate connection.
	Like, that's a part of sex.
	I just want to know if that question applies to all genders.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So when a guy parties in college and stuff like that, is that another girl?
	I completely agree.
	I think that goes both ways.
	Like we were talking earlier.
	I freaking love Andrew Tate.
	I love everything he says.
	I love 95% of the stuff the guy says.
	But there's like this 5% that basically encourages just getting as many women as possible.
	And I love the fact, it's awesome if you're a guy and you know any girl you see, basically 99% of them, you could pull them if you wanted to.
	You have that opportunity.
	That's the thing that guys will talk about.
	It's like a bragging lights, all this stuff.
	Guys and girls, you lose something valuable within yourself when you give a part of your body weight.
	Like in the Bible, I don't know if you guys are all Christians, but I think that it's got pretty eternal kind of value in the words that it says.
	But you know, it talks about like sexual immorality going that far with somebody.
	It's not necessarily a sin against God, like it's a sin against yourself.
	Yeah.
	And so I mean, if you got, and you're you seem like you're agreeing to this.
	If that's the case, why are you just being like, I'm going to throw it to all these guys?
	I'm trying to throw it to all these guys.
	Like, these guys that I'm talking about are like men that I know personally.
	Like, they know me.
	I know them.
	Like, we were friends before we ever started doing anything together, you know?
	So it's like, and you know, I mean, the timeline wasn't completely accurate.
	Not Monday, Wednesday, Saturday.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, it wasn't.
	Don't walk it back.
	No, I'm not walking it back.
	I'm just saying, like, it was a little bit dramaticized, but like, you know what I mean?
	Like, I feel you on, like, you give a part of your life.
	Let me ask you a question.
	In the past month, how many men, different men, like of your friends with benefits have you linked up with?
	Probably like three.
	Three.
	Okay.
	In the past month.
	Okay.
	In the past month, yeah.
	Okay.
	That's a lot.
	Nick.
	Wait, sorry, say that again.
	Dang.
	Say that again.
	No, Say that again.
	I would say like four.
	So one.
	Damn, these girls are exposing each other.
	They're like girlfriends, but they're not.
	I'm like, yeah, I mean, I guess maybe four, but I could.
	Is it more than four?
	Who I've had here, just blink twice if it's more than four.
	And you don't think that you're giving something valuable of yourself to these guys, even though they're not like killers.
	Wait, what?
	They're not like just elite humans.
	Like, you're willing to give that value.
	That's amazing.
	Not many.
	Okay.
	Well, I feel like, like how she said, like, it's become normalized.
	Like, people have OnlyFans.
	Like, people base with other creators.
	Like, but it's normal.
	But also, though, OnlyFans doesn't necessarily mean that you're sleeping with other people.
	Like, for me, I don't know.
	Nick, Nick, would you mind moving this?
	Stop the cow.
	Okay.
	Wait, what's up?
	I gotta handle a little wheelchair thing.
	I'll be right back, guys.
	I apologize.
	Yeah, of course.
	Do what you gotta do.
	Do what you gotta do.
	All right, when I get back, we're falling down with some serious questions.
	Yeah, I also think it was really refreshing to hear Madison say that because a lot of guys will talk about, like he said, like I'll have to readjust.
	Actually, I'll just keep it.
	No, I'll readjust it.
	So whatever, but a lot of guys like to say it's only that way for girls and it's not the same for men.
	Like, I don't hear that a lot ever.
	Yeah.
	I never hear like anybody saying, oh, like a man is giving up a part of himself.
	It's always a lady giving up a part of herself, but there's always these dudes who go out and have sex with a bunch of girls.
	Like, you know?
	So I have to disagree.
	I feel like we are made of energy.
	And I think that when you exchange energy like that, it definitely affects your body.
	You know what I mean?
	For both genders.
	For both genders.
	Yeah.
	Agreed.
	Word.
	Wait, okay.
	So I'll touch on that in a bit.
	So you got no guys in the picture.
	Come on.
	No.
	Aren't you going back to you're going to Dubai for six months?
	Is that right?
	Is that to see your family?
	Yeah, I grew up there.
	Oh, that's right.
	You grew up in Dubai.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Are you going to be because you do OnlyFans, right?
	Are you allowed to do OnlyFans?
	You know, in Dubai, there's a lot of OnlyFans creators.
	Really?
	There's a lot in Dubai.
	Probably Dubai clubs are all prostitutes.
	All of them.
	All of them are prostitutes.
	All of them are escorts.
	Wait, where?
	Half of the girls that you meet there, and they're pretty girls.
	Like, you would not.
	Sometimes I'll be in the club there and I'll be like drinking with this one girl and I'm like oh, and then my friend comes up to me, he's like that's a prostitute.
	And I'm like oh like, good time, could have never thought.
	But half of them are there yeah, and in Dubai, like I live in Marina, and in Marina, like a lot of the like roads, like there's like just prostitutes, like just standing on like the streets.
	It's very common.
	Is your um, your dad?
	He lives in, he lives there.
	No, he lives here.
	My mom lives there.
	Oh okay, so you're gonna go visit with your mom.
	Yeah okay, got it.
	Um, so you're single.
	What's, uh, your situation?
	You got any guys in the picture?
	I do not.
	I actually just have guy friends that I talk to from time to time, but nobody I talk to.
	Okay, got it.
	I'm gonna read a couple of the chats here.
	Um, so flak, i'm gonna get your other one too.
	Panel's opinion, what percentage of men today lack the knowledge and selflessness give their women multiple o's like cheerios?
	Masculinity equals satisfying your significant other.
	My opinion, okay.
	What percentage of men today lack the knowledge and selflessness give their women?
	Here i'm gonna pull up your other one.
	So flat, so flow.
	Aka nine five, four.
	How many of the females on the panel find that men in general lack knowledge and experience with clit stimulation?
	Masculinity equals giving the big o multiple times.
	Yeah, I literally didn't orgasm until this year, me too.
	Men just don't know how to like, do it.
	They always focus on them orgasming.
	I wouldn't say it correlates with masculinity.
	Um, I think if you have sex with a one person uh consistently, I think it's easier for you to like, know each other's body and that's how you achieve.
	But I feel like a lot of men don't wait for the girl to like finish.
	Let's do this, we're gonna go around the table, we'll start with you.
	Do you want to answer or we'll go around?
	Go ahead?
	Yeah, I agree, I think that like, i'm not even gonna lie, I don't think I have really orgasm, i'm not even like, i'm thinking about it.
	Yeah no, never wait question.
	So are you saying, are you saying with a partner or like with a partner?
	You've never come by yourself, by myself?
	Um like, I play around, but not to the point where i'm like, so you've never what came at all?
	No, I have, but oh, like that was, that's what I was saying.
	Like that, like because you said you've never orgasmed maximum.
	Yeah, like it's not.
	Like the teachers are anything at all.
	Do that again.
	What?
	What was that?
	It's the?
	Uh, it's exclusive.
	Show it into this camera, go ahead.
	what's it called the ahi gal a hey gal ahead one more time into this camera just kidding okay is that what it looks like it's on my twitter so you can just okay follow her
	i honestly i feel like you're calling i i feel like you're pandering i don't know if that's true what's that mean i'm just basically making a statement that like it's very rare to find like a guy that actually wants to no but you just the words you just said was you've never came with a guy Like I've came, but I'm not like an orgasm.
	Like it's the same as the same thing.
	Yeah, okay.
	You call me orgasm.
	Like I'm picturing something that's like never I feel like it's not always like oh like you know like it's just okay okay then like I've experienced it never mind.
	I thought like I'm missing out on something you know.
	So a guy has made you.
	Yeah yeah, it has.
	Okay, words mean something, by the way, like it's not that hard to be precise in your statements, your thoughts do men?
	Boys lack the ability skill, ability.
	They need to be trained, they need to be taught.
	Nobody knows how to suck a dick right until somebody shows you right, and you're not gonna know how to suck a clit right without someone showing you.
	I didn't know how to do it without someone showing me.
	Okay right, everybody's different.
	Every girl is different, every guy is different, everybody likes a different touch, and so everybody should be comfortable with theirselves and with their partner to say hey, not that way, this way sure, and I'll change the question up.
	So he was asking what percentage of men today lack the knowledge.
	So like, what percentage of the guys that you've hooked up with have been able to make you climax?
	Actually here wait, hold on, let's start with Cindy.
	What percentage of the men that you've been with, hooked up with, have been able to make you climax?
	Go ahead uh, like I don't know.
	Like one percent.
	So you've been.
	That would mean one person out of a hundred.
	You've been with a hundred guys, like okay, I don't know.
	Like if one percent of the men you've been with like yeah, I think that means a hundred, my first place, or more, it would just mean like that's not how math works.
	No, it's just like one percent of however many you've been with yeah, so that's like if you've been with 10, that means like no wait, hold on, I think my math wait, pull up the chat.
	I think my math is actually right here.
	If only one percent of the men she's been with, that would mean she's been with a hundred men, am I right?
	I'm pretty sure my math is actually right here, but I think she's thinking of it as how many she's been with and she's using that percentage.
	Yeah, but okay, if she's been with 10, hold on no no no, my math is right, because if she's been with 10 men and only one of them made her come, that would be 10 percent, okay.
	I don't think the question was about math, though.
	So I'm not saying one person, a small amount like, only like one, but that's what I'm asking, one to five percent, let's just do that.
	Very small amount yeah okay, so if it's one, but no no no, pull up the chat, because I'm pretty sure my math here is right.
	You've been with a hundred girl math baby, you don't have to say girl math, like it's girl math.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I don't agree with Dan.
	It's very small, it's girl math.
	So I got a clean question, wait, so okay, one percent.
	What about you?
	Probably 50 half okay, what about you?
	Hold on, put it center bro, put it there.
	Wait, put it.
	Okay, just one, one guy of well.
	But I'm asking like, what percentage of the men?
	Um well, I'm going off my body count out of like 23, or wait no, that's wrong.
	Body count 17 wait, there's different body counts out of 17 out of 17, 10 out of 17 wait, so what's that as a percentage?
	What's 23?
	Is that including girls?
	That's another person's body count.
	Whose body count is that?
	Is that yours?
	Oh no, who's 23?
	Okay, so wait, so okay, so what's one out of wait?
	So you're saying of, so you said okay, so you've been with how many?
	Did you say 17 guys, So, okay.
	Only one guy's been able to make you come.
	Is that what you said?
	Okay, one, so, that's like.
	Is that what's like five?
	Is that five?
	Five?
	Pers.
	I think that's five-ish percent.
	Four, five, four points.
	However, it's a little.
	It's about five percent.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	One dude out of 17.
	I don't even get like, but that's one of the like, what's the point if you're not even going to come?
	What's the point of like fucking all these?
	I don't know.
	A lot of these chicks, a lot of these chicks, like are.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I'm not saying like this that sex can't be enjoyable if you don't climax, but if you're not.
	I don't know if they're premature when you get into it.
	True.
	They're pretty.
	And then they're done.
	I don't think premature ejaculation is the primary culprit for why women.
	They start with female ejaculation first, and then they come.
	Yeah, because guys come too fast.
	And guys do come too long.
	Most guys aren't making you come with their dicks to begin with, though.
	They're going to give you head or they're going to use their head.
	Are they?
	And most of them don't.
	I don't do head, but I use his hands.
	Okay, answer.
	There's your answer.
	I still, hey, but I like to make my girl come first.
	Like, if I'm not.
	That's what they said.
	You're rude.
	She's got to come first, preferably multiple times.
	That's the goal.
	And then the guy can come afterwards.
	We need more men.
	Let's have a master course and let's elaborate on that.
	Okay.
	Here, so.
	What about you?
	It's hard to put like a percentage on it, but I just want to.
	Should we just almost get into it?
	We could just get into body count and you can say what you want.
	Yeah, body count.
	Just say body count.
	Let's do body count and then how many of those guys were able to make you come?
	Let's do that.
	Here, we'll start.
	We'll come back, Cindy, starting with you.
	I don't want to talk about it.
	Okay.
	How about the range?
	How does that sound?
	I don't want to talk about it.
	Yeah, I won't either.
	I won't either.
	I'd rather give you like a drink.
	Yeah, I'm not going to say that.
	I would say maybe around 20 to 30 percent of the guys have been able to make you climax.
	I think, like, if you want to make it high, I don't know.
	I think I've never came from like having sex with someone for the first time.
	So I think it's important that you pick like a specific person.
	And I think that's a good idea.
	Okay.
	Wouldn't it be wide if you just picked one and then just like stuck with them forever?
	It's like only things with like one guy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's what everybody wants though.
	What about you?
	Go ahead.
	I would say like 30%.
	30%?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've only been with two people and only one of them.
	So what?
	50%?
	Okay.
	Yes.
	I guess like 15%.
	15%.
	Do you want to share your body count?
	No.
	Your friend did.
	No, she didn't.
	That's fine.
	That's someone else's.
	Who's the someone that's?
	Calcines donated $207.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Done with the sauna.
	Good night, panel.
	Also, Congressman, you seem like an excellent guy.
	Go back in and fight.
	We need folks like you in representation.
	Have a great night, everyone.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	Really appreciate your patronage tonight.
	Thank you, man.
	Have a good night.
	Appreciate the session.
	Hope I get to meet you sometime.
	I can't.
	Yo, chat, do I look out of focus?
	One in the chat if I'm out of focus, two in the chat if I'm okay.
	What's up?
	No.
	One in the chat if I'm a little out of focus, guys.
	Two in the chat.
	I might need to adjust some of the.
	I definitely had Cindy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Did you fuck Snoop Dogg?
	Because I saw Nick.
	It's so funny.
	Like, once I met Snoop Dogg, everybody in the comments think like we did things together.
	How'd you meet Snoop Dogg?
	From the front.
	Cool.
	What the?
	Oh, that's not fair.
	Wait.
	Oh, I'm dude, Dylan.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know why it didn't trigger.
	Oh, it's good.
	Bro, you added penis to it.
	Oh, did he?
	Yeah, hold on.
	Let me see.
	I'm going to try to do you a solid here and see if I can re-trigger it without.
	Give me a sec, man.
	I'll try to re-trigger it.
	Let's continue on.
	Can you guys go around the table without me having to promise?
	Mine is only one.
	I've only had one person.
	Like, make me come.
	Stop the cap.
	Oh, wait.
	You've only dated one guy?
	No, I've only had one person.
	Only one dude.
	Okay.
	Rest in peace.
	Okay.
	Your sex life.
	Okay.
	Only two guys made me come.
	Wait, percent.
	Give us a percentage, though.
	Out of four.
	Do you want to give us a percentage?
	Two out of four for you?
	Yeah.
	Two out of four.
	What's your percentage?
	She's trying to do it.
	Trying to do the math.
	Hold on.
	Four percent?
	Four percent.
	Wait, so one guy's definitely.
	I just raised the math.
	Wait, four percent?
	Math with that.
	One percent.
	So if one guy.
	Oh, wait, no, wait.
	So the higher it is, the lower your body count?
	Wait, what?
	No, no, no.
	Just like so.
	So the percentage of guys who've been able to make you climax.
	So, for example, if you've slept with 10 guys and only one guy was able to make you climax, that'd be 10%.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	So what's the percentage?
	15%.
	Yo, chat.
	I don't know if you guys know what I've just fucking discovered.
	This is some epiphany shit.
	I have just realized how to get the fucking body count.
	You asked the percentage because if they give you the percentage, you can calculate what the body count is.
	No, this is some evil Juda shit.
	If you can calculate, what percentage of men have you have been able to make you climax?
	You can calculate the fucking body count.
	That's how that should work.
	You can calculate.
	That's boyfriendly.
	You can kind of.
	You can kind of.
	That's not true.
	But if it's 10%, if 10% of the guys you've been with have been able to make you come, I'm pretty sure you've at least slept with 10 guys for that to be possible.
	Am I right?
	No, you're not.
	No, I'm pretty sure.
	I'm pretty sure my math.
	No, no, no.
	Pull up the chat.
	Pull up the chat.
	I'm going to give you two variables, but I hate math.
	I'm pretty sure only 10% of the men that she's been with.
	That's what the chat is saying.
	If 10% of the men that she's been with, it means you can detect the minimum.
	If you say 10%, then that would mean that you've been with at least 10 guys.
	Is this boy math?
	They said you can verify.
	They said no.
	Am I right?
	I think I'm right.
	Yeah, correct.
	If you've been.
	They said you can verify a minimum.
	So like you can't tell the exact number, but I'm sure you can zoom in.
	No, but you can tell the minimum.
	So for example, if it's 10%, the minimum is 10.
	Of course, if it's 100, then only 10 of the guys that you've slept with have been able.
	So it's a good one.
	Okay, I'm going to have to start using that.
	Okay.
	Cindy, what percentage is?
	I have experience.
	Do you like, okay, do men like girls with experience or do you like people who don't like experience?
	I don't care.
	Frankly, the most optimum ideal would be a girl who's a virgin or low body count.
	Okay.
	Why is that?
	Yeah.
	Less likelihood of having less likelihood of having an STD.
	That's a pretty big win.
	How many girls is your body count?
	I don't disclose that.
	You don't disclose that.
	I don't disclose that.
	I got a bunch of teenagers you're asking.
	So you can't.
	Well, no, no, no.
	What are you trying to say by teenagers?
	You have some.
	This is how women like to use pathologizing language.
	I have a 23-year-old, a 35-year-old, 19, 19, 26, 25, 19.
	You're asking all the math on their percentages and stuff, so I was just asking you the same question.
	Yeah, but why did you specifically use the term teenagers?
	Because these are the girls that are in the middle of the day.
	See, that's a very loaded.
	No, no, no, no.
	See, I know what you're doing.
	You're trying to be kind of shifty about it, but that's a very loaded way to ask that question.
	Let me read it.
	No, no, no.
	You're trying to.
	No, I don't like what you're doing because you're trying to frame it in like a very weird fucking way.
	No, I don't think you're afraid of that.
	What are you implying by that?
	I'm implying that you're asking a bunch of young girls the same question.
	There's women in their mid-20s here at the table, too.
	Actually, I think the average age here is like mid-20s.
	That's young women.
	That's what I'm referring to.
	So, do you object?
	What's your point?
	I was asking you the same question.
	That's all.
	I was asking you the same question.
	Yeah, but why did you specifically use the word teenager when we have a 23, a 35, a 26, a 25?
	I didn't get your age.
	25.
	25.
	Madison, you're 28, correct?
	I mean, that's pretty disingenuous to use this term teenager when the average age here is and also teenager, that can be anywhere from 13.
	We have 19-year-old women here.
	Technically, yes, they're teenagers.
	Yeah.
	It's a rather disingenuous thing to do.
	Okay.
	I was asking you to say that.
	This is exactly how women will try to give the spin and like frame it in the most bad faith, like bad light way possible.
	Okay, but you said you're going to answer the question.
	Answer what question?
	I've already told you I don't reveal my body count.
	Right, right.
	That was the question.
	That was the question.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But you're doing all this math.
	That's all I'm saying.
	It's funny to me.
	It's okay.
	Cool.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	You do realize, though, that's incredibly disingenuous to frame it in that way.
	Okay.
	But what were you trying to achieve by framing it in that way?
	What was your intention?
	No, she wants to basically make the, like, basically, she's saying that young girls, younger girls, younger women.
	No, we have young adult women here.
	We don't have any girls here.
	We have adult women.
	And I'm just saying that you won't reveal the same information that you've been talking about.
	I don't see how that's relevant.
	The practical matter here is: one, I think you treat it basically like in politics.
	Like, you're not going to sit there and ask a reporter personal questions about their life because his job is just to extract information for the enjoyment of the audience and the illumination for the things.
	But I agree with what he's saying.
	I'm sure you seem like you're pretty intelligent.
	You can see how when you frame it like teenager, it seems like you're trying to imply like there's some form of a freaking person that should be shot.
	I apologize twice for that.
	Yeah, so, anyways, thank you for the apology.
	I think immediately clears up.
	I'm going to try to re-trigger that chat here.
	I don't know if it's gonna trigger but...
	Can you read it?
	I'm alive.
	Is this real?
	There you go.
	Sorry, because you included the peen, it wasn't going to trigger instantly, so I had to adjust some settings.
	We have no name here.
	What would they do if they arrived home and caught their boyfriends fapping to their OF pages?
	We'll go around the table really quick.
	Those of you who have OF, if you want to answer that.
	I've never heard that question.
	Are you asking if I had a boyfriend and I used to be a bad person?
	And you use fapping to your content?
	I think I wouldn't care.
	It's just, you know.
	You have OF, you have OF.
	You do too.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Who's the one?
	I think if they were actually on the site, I think it's a little different.
	I think if it's content that you sent them personally, I feel like that's less weird.
	But if you're on my site, you know, I don't know.
	It's a little, feels a little weird.
	So, you know, I see a reel that goes around very often on, and it's like basically, it'll be like an OnlyFans girl who's like, you know, it'll be like the freeze frame kind of trend going on.
	It's like when someone sees you and says, oh, I've seen your videos, and they act like they're super shocked and embarrassed and sad about it.
	This is just a question that I, because I've never really talked to girls with OnlyFans.
	What is, do you not think that that is going to, you know, a guy that you would be interested in marrying one day or like pursuing a real relationship with, if you're embarrassed for a guy just to come up to you and be like, oh, hey, I've seen your OnlyFans.
	Like, I love this video the most, like, blah, blah, blah.
	Do you not think that's going to just kind of push away guys that, you know, you think would be a solid partner for life and for raising a family?
	It's going to push away partners, but at the end of the day, I don't want to be with anyone that's going to judge that.
	Like, I would want to be with someone that at the end of the day doesn't mind what I do.
	We've moved on.
	I'm not going to, you know, OnlyFans is only a small part of my life.
	And by the time I'm going to get married, it's going to be way in the past.
	So it's like, if that's a problem for you, I don't want to be with you anyway.
	I'm kind of with her.
	Also, me personally, if someone came up to me and was like, oh, I've seen your videos, I know that's the reality of what I do.
	And I've accepted that, and I don't feel embarrassed by it.
	It's like, why put your videos out there?
	What was the question?
	I'm sorry.
	Basically asking, do you feel like if guys have seen your OnlyFans things, is it going to push away guys you might be interested in?
	Probably, yeah.
	I think they will look at you differently.
	I think they will.
	You have OnlyFans?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, no.
	Why am I fans?
	I don't have an OnlyFans.
	Oh, no, I'm so sorry.
	Because I do Only.
	I think that it doesn't necessarily have to, I feel like there's like, there's still like some we're label on OnlyFans.
	Like you can like talk to someone, have regular chats, talk about relatable things.
	A lot of people have like a gym like that.
	Yeah, you can have like your own show on OnlyFans TV.
	They do that.
	They're doing dating shows.
	I was casted to be maybe next season.
	So I'm just saying there's just like a lot of like stigma, like bad stigma behind OnlyFans.
	This really is not that bad.
	Depending what niche of content you're making.
	And if you do make those content and you put out there and gets leaked, it gets leaked.
	It's what's going to happen.
	It's normal.
	I think even like no matter what niche you're in, like she said, I think there's a lot of stigmatism and like you are not just like an OnlyFans page.
	Like you're still a person with desires outside of that and values, and so if it's gonna put a stigma on it, I'm sorry.
	Did you have any one of okay?
	So if it's gonna put a stigma on you and there's a chance that it might push away a partner that you could potentially be interested in and I know that you're saying you wouldn't be interested anybody that was like that is there not?
	What is, in your mind, the value that you need to get out of OnlyFans to make it worth it, pushing away potential life partners that could be the most fulfilling part of your life?
	Like, is there a monetary amount?
	Well, for me, I'm the only reason I do it is to kind of fund what I really want to do, which is go into fashion and have my own business and invest in property and real estate.
	That's a great call, by the way.
	Yeah, and I've already invested, and that's kind of why I'm leaving to Dubai.
	And it's helped me a lot.
	And it doesn't mean that's who I am as a person.
	That doesn't mean that's what I want to end up doing, but it's something that helps me reach my goals.
	And as a person who doesn't go to college, it's something that I feel like gets me there easy, like gets me there faster and gets me to where I want to be.
	And if I can do it, why the fuck not?
	So it's like the monetary amount.
	So let's say you're investing in properties.
	What amount do you want to make a year in passive income that makes it worth pushing away potential life partners?
	Oh, probably like not under like 600K.
	Wow.
	I'm not aware of how much people make on OnlyFans.
	I've seen it.
	Well, everyone's different.
	We'll start on that side.
	Do you want to give an answer to that?
	Grid one Motorsports donated $200 of his a no-fly zone.
	The only winning of marriage is the divorce lawyers.
	There is no man that respects himself as a man that will take a girl seriously in a relationship.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Disagree with that.
	Well, grid one, thank you for grid one.
	Thank you for throwing that $200 donation.
	I know that helps this thing a lot where we get to kind of confront culture.
	Ma'am, do you have, is there like a monetary amount you want to make out of that that is worth the potential of losing like your life partner?
	But what do you mean by losing your life partner?
	I mean, like, still find a life partner.
	Oh, no, I totally agree.
	I have no doubt that you have a plethora of men who's so married to you.
	Ladies, with, how do you feel if you found out your father or a friend's father was spanking the insolent child to your vids?
	What?
	Sorry for the nasty question, but I want to bring out the morality of it.
	Guys, I just want to go ahead.
	I don't know this person, but I'm guessing that when he's saying that, he might be talking about beating his face.
	I think that's really weird, and I don't think that has anything to do with us.
	Us, it has something to do with whoever's doing it because that's weird.
	It's their choice.
	Yeah, whether or not they want to do that.
	And then also what she said, I heavily felt that.
	I view it not as like my future and my life.
	I view it as a stepping stone for bigger things that I want to do, and that is funding that.
	And then to answer the other question, for me, there's no specific monetary number, but as long as I'm happy with it and as long as it's going good, then I will continue to do that.
	And I think I will know intuitively whenever I want to be done with it.
	But for you, it's like minimum.
	Like, you want to be set for life making like a 600K.
	And I have enough money to do what I want to do, then yeah.
	600K, you're living a hell of a lot of people.
	But if I'm not making any money, then obviously I'm not going to continue to do it.
	Or like if I'm not making enough money to like do what I want to do, the whole reason that I'm doing it, then I'm not going to continue.
	So I think we can all at the table agree that OnlyFans costs you something in the world.
	But everything.
	Right.
	I'm not saying it's everything.
	But what is the monetary amount you want to make out of it that makes it worth it?
	There's no like monetary amount.
	I think I just genuinely like doing what I do.
	I like talking to people.
	I like making relatable content.
	OnlyFans is another social media platform.
	If you want that page to do well, you have to be very consistent and produce content like any of your other social media pages.
	Right?
	So there's nothing bad doing it.
	I could do this for the rest of my life.
	If I look like this at the age of 90, I'll do it.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	If you look like you do at age 90?
	Yeah, if I look at, yeah, if I look at this at the age 90, she could still pop up.
	Hold on.
	Do you think you'll look like you do now at the age of 90?
	I will look really young, like for a very long time.
	At 90.
	I'm just saying, like, hey, I don't know if at 90.
	I'm just saying that if she could do it, you know, like, no, no, no, no, but no, no, no.
	We can actually, I hold on.
	That is what she's saying, though.
	She is saying when she's 90, she's still going to be.
	If she could.
	If what?
	If she still could do it and she wants to do it.
	She said she could if she wanted to.
	I'm not saying that you can still do OF when you're 90.
	That's not what.
	You're saying that you will be still physically attractive to the same degree now as when you're 90?
	Is that you can take what you can take that as whatever you want?
	It depends on what you're into.
	I mean, that's not the question, though.
	Do you think you'll be as physically attractive?
	I can't believe I'm asking this.
	At 90 than you are now?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Like, I can't.
	I know I'm going to be like, you're very youthful.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	You're going to be youthful at 90.
	Yeah, like at 90, I'm still a poppy episode, you know.
	There you go.
	I think minute pause at the end of the chat.
	So, like, so in my mind, in my mind, like, and this is, to me, it's an objective reality.
	Like, I think guys hit their physical primes, like, of their highest levels of strength, what I think they probably, when they were kind of the most attractive physically, not saying anything else, probably around like 28 to like 31.
	That's kind of their prime range.
	I feel like women, it's probably like, you know, 25 to 29.
	That's kind of their prime range.
	So if that is the case, then, you know, do you, in, if you're in your prime, and again, I know that that's a controversial topic, but if you're in what you consider like your, and I'm just not talking about your value as a person, but your physical attractiveness.
	Do you feel like doing OnlyFans?
	And this is a question that you're not only OnlyFans girls.
	Do you feel like doing OnlyFans is a valuable use of your time while you're at this premiere stage?
	Describe valuable though.
	And again, that's why I tried to look valuable.
	If you're OnlyFans and you're still making the same amount of money, what is the difference?
	Can I also say something?
	You know, there's like several other websites that makes exclusive content, right?
	Like, I can name like fanficks playboy.
	There's like a lot of like, yeah, I know, but I don't think he's fancy.
	I don't think he's fancy.
	I'm using OnlyFans as kind of just an all-cover topic.
	Okay.
	I just wanted to...
	So, like, what are...
	What was your...
	And you might have a question.
	I'll let you take it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it.
	And I had a couple questions.
	By the way, Pico Steins, I wanted to follow up on your chat because I did have a question related to that.
	But really quick, so okay.
	Do you think you'll be as attractive at 90 as you are now?
	Nope.
	I mean, I'm going to look like as attractive, just a little bit older.
	She'll be as attractive as she's attractive just a little bit older.
	Well, is that your answer?
	Yeah.
	Who knows?
	Maybe she will.
	Maybe probably.
	You know, like what?
	How can we tell?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Will you be as attractive at 90 as you are now?
	So the euphemism was: if she said, if I was, then you're going to be able to do that.
	She was using it as an expression.
	I'm going to age.
	I'm definitely going to age.
	If someone likes me at that age, then yeah, I'll be attractive to them.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	If I make it to 90.
	Bender the Offender donated $200.
	Thank you, man.
	For the ladies on Omnivans, the problem you face is that when you want to leave that industry, you come to find out that you have trapped yourself because of the amount of money being made.
	What?
	I mean, there's definitely like, I think it's called lifestyle creep.
	When you start making a lot of money, your lifestyle tends to change.
	start spending a lot of money you're gonna not always but if you use that money and you've invested it and you're you know now you're making passive income Sure.
	If you leave OnlyFans, you're going to continue.
	Yes.
	That's true, but there's definitely like typically women and men who make fast money.
	A lot of people, and this is in all industries, if you're a professional athlete, if you're a musician, these guys, they come into quick, quick money and they fucking blow through it.
	That's why there's actually, I think in the NFL, there's like financial advisors that are provided by the league to like protect the athletes from absolutely squandering their finances that they can make.
	But you hear stories of like musicians, they make it, especially one-hit wonders, these guys blow through their money.
	So it's not just OnlyFans, but thank you, Bender the Offender.
	That was a good point.
	So I comment on that really quick.
	Go ahead.
	I totally agree.
	Like, it's easy to blow through it and not manage your money.
	But I also hate how people generalize that with OnlyFans girls and think like we're not capable of doing smart things with our money.
	First off, and second, I can't remember.
	Come back to that.
	Well, sure, but I mean, like, typically, like, if you look at some of these more sex work-oriented professions, like typically, like, a lot of these women are, like, if you look at the porn industry, for example, strippers, like, a lot of them are drug addicts, spend a lot of money.
	I'm not saying all of you guys, all of you guys, but like.
	It's becoming more of a topic of conversation, and I also think that's why these conversations are important to educate ourselves.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Will you be more attractive now or when you're 90?
	I can't believe this is.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Or?
	Or?
	Do you think you'll be more attractive now or at 90?
	I feel like we need to show of hands.
	Yo, AB Check, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.
	Please go ahead and answer the question.
	Now?
	Oh, that's the answer.
	Okay, what about you?
	No-brainer, no.
	Right now.
	Now.
	No.
	No?
	No.
	Here, let me ask a more realistic question.
	Are you more physically attractive?
	Are you going to be more physically attractive now at whatever age you are or in 10 years?
	I will still be attractive no matter what.
	That's not the question.
	That's not the question.
	Are you more physically attractive now than you will be in 10 years?
	But how do we know that?
	Yes, physically attractive.
	How can we know?
	I'm going to have to stick with my answer.
	So you're 23.
	Are you more attractive now at 23 than you will be at 33?
	We don't know what the future is.
	Bro, Jennifer Lopez is still very hot.
	She's not as hot as she was probably 20 years ago.
	It's objective.
	Everybody has their own like.
	I'm not saying you can't.
	There's, of course, there's attractive women in their 30s and 40s.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I'm saying right now, I would argue, like, for example, most women who are 40, they were probably more physically attractive at 30.
	Some of them got work done and they did, and they look amazing.
	Well, speaking of plastic surgery, I think that actually makes women less physically attractive.
	That's your opinion.
	I don't think that's always the case, but especially when they're doing like a ton of filler in the face, that kind of thing.
	Sorry, my words.
	Someone could think they're more attractive when they're 40 than they were, whatever.
	It's just an opinion.
	It's not an opinion.
	It's just a biological fact.
	It's a biological fact.
	If we're attractive now or in 10 years, Could think she's pretty and someone could think she's ugly.
	Do you?
	Okay, let me ask you some here.
	Fine.
	Let's talk about objective things.
	Does your skin change over time?
	Do you start to get wrinkles over time?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	yes does do you tend to tip do people do people typically tend to gain weight over time or lose weight over the time yeah Yes, it depends, but generally speaking.
	Because what if I'm skinny and then I gain weight?
	How does that make me less attractive?
	Well, if you get obese, are you saying if this is triggering?
	No, it's not.
	But you know what?
	Obese people are less.
	I think obesity makes to most people.
	So I just want to jump in right quick.
	This is actually, so especially a lot of guys, and I'm not from the West Coast, so it might be different here, but where I'm from, a lot of guys always talk about how girls in like Eastern Europe and especially in parts of Europe are like significantly more attractive than girls in America.
	And I think, you know, not to get political on this, it's one, we have three food ingredients that are in all of our foods.
	I mean, you can eat.
	I'm sure, especially if you spend a lot of time in Dubai, you can eat freaking hummus and pita all day long.
	Even McDonald's.
	Yeah, or you can go to freaking Italy and eat your pizza every day, and you don't feel like you have a hangover the next day.
	You don't gain weight.
	But anyways, I think the biggest difference is that the women in like Eastern Europe or other parts of the countries are not just genetically more attractive.
	I genuinely think it's just a lot of us are like even myself, 15 to 20 pounds overweight.
	I think we need just a sec.
	I think at 90 they'll be more attractive because at this point gene therapies will revolution plastic surgery and fix the charact these herpes infested.
	I feel sorry for Brian.
	It's all good.
	That's crazy.
	So moving kind of off of the OnlyFans thing and I think we've lost objective truth in our culture.
	And so this is one thing that I'm just kind of curious about.
	And we'll go to some of the girls who haven't talked as much today.
	What do you think that what are you like looking for in a guy or what do you think is missing the most in guy culture?
	Let's I do need to get a couple things.
	I do that's a really good question.
	So if you can just remember that.
	I can remember.
	Yeah, we'll come back to that in just a sec.
	But I do want to definitely come back to that.
	So I want to just, I need to have a couple things I need to touch on before we move on.
	So okay, we were talking about, will you be more attractive?
	Okay, we're talking about obesity.
	You objected to me saying that if a woman, like if somebody gains weight, this goes for both genders.
	If you're obese, I think most people are not attracted to people who are obese.
	Hot take, maybe.
	Agree.
	There's not like a percentage.
	Speaking to the mic.
	There's not like a percentage.
	It's not like you know who's going to be attracted to who.
	You know what I mean?
	Because some people are attracted to older women.
	Some people are attracted to women.
	I'm talking in generalities.
	Okay, but you're always trying to argue the exception.
	You are, because you're saying, well, there are some men, there's some men that are attracted to morbidly obese women, sure.
	But most, if you ask most men, they're not attracted to morbidly obese women.
	And I would argue, most women are not attracted to morbidly obese men either.
	I agree, but I'm literally arguing the point that you asked.
	Do you think you will be more attractive in 10 years?
	Okay, so we'll go back to that.
	Do we go around the table?
	Will you be more attractive in 10 years?
	I forgot where we left off.
	Are you more attractive now or will you be more attractive in 10 years?
	I think we went around the table.
	No, we did the 90.
	I think it was something like her.
	I think I'll be more attractive in 10 years just to upgrade myself because I want to get more stuff done in myself.
	What do you mean, more stuff done?
	What do you mean?
	Just like more tattoos and stuff.
	You think that'll make you more attractive?
	To herself.
	To myself.
	That's not, do you guys not understand the question?
	That was the question.
	Do you think you're more attractive?
	More attractive.
	Are you guys really that?
	Hello?
	What?
	Like, are you just going to be attractive, like, the way you're doing?
	You're more attractive to yourself.
	We're on a dating podcast, so I would hope that you guys can assume the context of that question is to the world.
	Yeah, but even the world might find her more attractive.
	With more tattoos.
	Some people love tattoos.
	I love tattoos.
	Some, I would argue.
	I would argue for men like a tattoo.
	A heavily tattooed woman for most men, that's not like it doesn't make a girl more attractive.
	But that was also one thing.
	The level of nonsensistic delusion in these women tonight is off the charts.
	I am reminded of the women v-men strength discussion.
	Perhaps tonight is a little bit of a test.
	Oh, we should ask you later.
	Yes, we're going to ask.
	Oh, my God.
	This person's going to be aware of the strength.
	Here, thank you, man.
	Oh, yeah, it's pretty delusional.
	So, okay, on the tattoo thing, really quick.
	I would argue, there are some men who, I guess, have a tattoo fetish or a kink or whatever.
	I would argue, though, most men, your tattoos, no offense to you, are going to either be neutral or it's going to be a negative.
	Like, no guy's like, I really wish my girlfriend had more tattoos.
	No guys?
	That's not true.
	No guys?
	Most.
	See, you guys, okay, guys, you don't need to argue the exception all the time.
	Like, bro, okay, for example, it's not wrong for me to say humans are born with 10 fingers.
	That's not wrong for me to say.
	Are some people born with 11 fingers who have genetic anomalies?
	Yes.
	It's not erroneous for me to say that humans are born with 10 fingers as a general principle.
	So, yes, if you'd prefer, the vast majority of men are going to view tattoos as either like a negative or neutral at best.
	No guy's like, whoa, she's so heavily tatted.
	I'm really, I'm more into her than I would have otherwise been.
	No, no, no, no, this is how, see, here's the thing: women often project what they're attracted to in men and think that men are attracted to that same trait in women at all.
	No, but women are women find tattoos on guys attractive.
	The reverse opinions, though, so we're going to give women's opinions.
	Right, but it's the same thing with like when y'all make a lot of money, you think, oh, guys are going to be more into me because I'm a boss babe and I make money.
	No, you guys are projecting, you guys are projecting what you're attracted to in men, but the reality is there's not symmetry in what we're attracted to.
	You're picking at a generalization, so nobody's arguing anything, really.
	She thinks tattoos are sexy, and I agree.
	That's cool, but I asked if you're going to be more attractive in 10 years, and you said you'll be more attractive in 10 years because you'll have more tattoos.
	I was ungrateful.
	She said that was one point.
	That's not from a guy from most guys' eyes.
	Like, do you think you're going to, like, let me ask you a question?
	Let me ask you a question.
	When it comes to getting laid, do you think that if you got more tattoos, that's going to help you get dick or get a boyfriend?
	Do you genuinely think that that would help?
	I'll hop in on that.
	I feel like it's personal preference, right?
	I don't know what exactly he just said.
	When you're saying, if you think it'll help you get late, I do think that if you were covered in tattoos, it would help you have sex every single night way faster.
	I think it would detract significantly.
	Because, in my opinion, women decide who they have sex with, men deciding to marry.
	I genuinely believe that if you're covered in tattoos, and it's a woman choosing.
	And again, I just want to make one general point because I do this for a living.
	So, if we want to have a Lincoln Douglas debate and start ripping each other apart on precision in your language, I will have so much fun.
	This is what I do.
	I heat it up.
	But let's just not be intellectually dishonest.
	Let's assume that the other person will fill in gaps.
	Like if someone's drunk texting you, like they'd spell tonight with like an R somewhere in it.
	I'd be like, okay, well, that's fine.
	I know what you're saying.
	But, anyways, I think that if you're covered in tattoos, then I don't think you're covered.
	I mean, like, I think if you were like covered a lot more tattoos, because I think dainty tattoos on women can be cute.
	But like when a girl has like their entire hip done, I'm like, ooh, not for me.
	And I think that's the majority of guys.
	But again, like I said, I think if you're covered in tattoos, it would help you get laid every night by just low-quality men and just kind of guys who are betas.
	But if you're looking for a husband, I think the guys that you would be attracted to, I think it's going to make it significantly more difficult for you.
	But can we go back to the main question though?
	It's like, is she going to be less attractive?
	I think she will be.
	I genuinely believe that.
	So specifically for this young lady, I think she'll be more attractive in 10 years.
	Because like I said, you'll be in your prime at 29.
	That's what I'm saying.
	She's 19.
	I disagree with you respectfully, but you disagree.
	It's a disagreement.
	That's his opinion.
	That's what I was like.
	But one more thing.
	If you're covered in tattoos and you've had sex with like 50 guys, I'm significantly less attractive.
	If you just didn't know her and you just saw her, like you didn't even talk to her, covered in tattoos?
	No, not covered in tattoos.
	Okay, here, let's move on.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, hey.
	I'll do it.
	I'll do that.
	I think I will be very attractive.
	More attractive, I'm not sure.
	Probably.
	Okay, the question is: I'm not saying like in 10 years that you're not going to be attractive.
	That's not the question.
	Are you more attractive now than you will be in 10 years?
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	Okay, I'm going to say yes in 10 years.
	But I would also say, let's say someone told me, I can give you a pill and then you can look how you look right now.
	So I'm 26, in 10 years I'll be 36.
	I would say, yes, I would rather look 26.
	So I think where I am right now, yes, I'm the most attractive.
	In 10 years, I'm not going to be as attractive.
	Wait, I'm so confused because you said in 10 years you will be more attractive.
	No, sorry, sorry, I meant like I'm more attractive now than I will be attractive.
	Sure, what about you?
	Yeah, I agree.
	I'm more attractive now than probably in 10 years.
	I'm going to say I'm going to be more attractive in 10 years, but that's only because I have braces on my teeth and shit like that.
	So I feel like you have time to do that.
	Okay, how about this?
	Let's say you take your braces off today.
	You today without braces versus you in 10 years without braces.
	Well, then me in 10 years because I would get braces.
	And I would fix my teeth.
	No, but I feel like people don't like braces.
	I think what she was saying, if she took them off right now, the braces wouldn't have done their work right now.
	Yeah, braces isn't a bad thing.
	I mean, yeah, they're not a bad thing, but I feel like I want straight teeth.
	You know, that's why I have braces.
	You know, that's going to make me.
	Today, with straight teeth versus you in 10 years.
	Then me today with straight teeth.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I think me today.
	Me today.
	Okay.
	I'm going to tell you, if you look at the thumbnail that we're going to have up of this one, it's my picture when I was 24 years old, just got elected to Congress.
	I look hot as shit.
	And I've gained like 50 patients.
	I've gained like 15 pounds since then.
	And I'm significantly less attractive now.
	And I'm telling you, I think that it's an objective truth.
	And again, this is something that I want to hit on later in the conversation.
	We get some of these questions.
	We've lost objective truths in the world.
	And I think that for the majority, and I'm not talking about any like kind of the P-word or anything weird, like young young people.
	I think the younger you are, generally you are significantly more attractive when you're young than when you're old.
	Preach.
	Especially for women.
	Yeah.
	It depends on men age really like.
	Well, yeah, because I mean, like, you can be a silver fox and like a freaking like.
	Because remember, like, I dated a girl who made an income that was insane.
	Her yearly salary was insane.
	She's a killer.
	She's amazing.
	But she was very married to her job, and she's a wonderful woman.
	But I don't care.
	I do not give a shit.
	Whereas for guys, a lot of women give so much more credence.
	They want you to become a successful, amazing man.
	That's why guys are more attractive generally when they get older, whereas girls are more attractive in their young 20s.
	That's my opinion.
	Because they like are, I feel like.
	They built their life up.
	It depends because when I was like 20, 21, I don't think I looked as good.
	I don't know.
	By the way, ABC, thank you for the gifted memberships.
	I mean, I would just say those of you who said you're going to be more physically attractive at 90, you're delusional.
	And even those of you who said you're going to be more physically attractive in 10 years, no offense, you're also delusional.
	You guys are trying to say it's subjective.
	It's just like, is it ostensibly possible, like if you guys wanted to make some like argument to like an exceptional sort of argument, where like, well, what about an 18-year-old girl who was obese and she had acne and blah, And then like she lost all the weight and she got accutane.
	And yeah, maybe she's going to be more.
	Age is not ugly.
	Yeah, like aging is a lot of people.
	Age doesn't depend on how it does.
	Well, there's a fantastic country song by a fantastic American philosopher that says, every man just wants younger women and faster horses.
	And it's just ugly.
	Yeah, and I don't think that's a good thing.
	I appreciate it.
	There's a lot to say that when people are in their prime, they're going to be significantly more attractive than they're 40.
	And that's just a fact.
	And there's such a great quality of women who are aging with grace and everything, especially when you marry them when they're young and everything, and you've grown with them.
	And I think that's a beautiful thing.
	Can you scoot your mind?
	Like, we are all human, but it's natural to age.
	It's natural for skin to sag.
	Holy fuck, never mind.
	This way?
	I don't care.
	It's what you realize.
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	I need to cover a whole bunch of fucking things here.
	Let me try to get through them.
	We have.
	Fuck.
	This was from Pico Steins.
	So he says, and this will touch on the OF stuff.
	So, Pico Steins, thank you, man, for kind of making me remember this.
	Would you guys have an issue if your father was watching your OnlyFans content?
	Like, depending on what content.
	Your pornography.
	Let's assume.
	And if you want to go Lincoln Douglas, I will go full on Black's Law Dictionary on you.
	For the terms of the rest of this conversation, when we talk about OnlyFans, we're talking about porn star activities.
	Didn't we already talk about this?
	I thought we had answered this question.
	We know, but he was aware of that.
	I wanted.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, but then, like, there's something wrong with your relationship with your.
	Like, why would he be interested in that?
	You know?
	That's weird.
	Yeah, it's like a weird.
	But so you guys acknowledge that you are selling a product that you would not be proud for your family to purchase.
	Why would your dad purchase something that you're pornographic?
	Totally scooted it the wrong way.
	I meant to scoot it.
	That was right.
	That's a dad problem and not an older one.
	Yeah, not the song, in my opinion.
	Yeah, like you're the one buying the content.
	Yeah, if you had a daughter to get pornographic content for hypothetically, would you be purchasing her content?
	That's what we're exactly.
	Exactly.
	I wouldn't want her to be.
	Well, hold on.
	I wouldn't want her to be even doing that.
	Just based on the original question.
	Yeah, but that's also a problem.
	It's a father problem, not a porn porn problem.
	Because there's always going to be porn.
	Yeah.
	Always.
	Exactly.
	And someone's always going to be making porn and someone's always going to be watching porn.
	Exactly.
	So If someone who has a daughter wants to purchase his daughter's porn, any family member weird kink that oh, yes, I'm not in favor of fathers or brothers purchasing their daughters or their siblings content, but it does sort of call into question if you would feel ashamed of to some degree you must be ashamed of what you're doing if you would be ashamed to have your parents purchase it.
	I don't think it's a factor of shame.
	So it's like I wouldn't want my parents watching that for weird reasons of that's freaking weird.
	And like if like your I mean my parents like know what I do, but that doesn't mean it you want them to be.
	Can I ask you a question?
	What was that conversation like?
	How do they feel about that?
	So my mom has been supportive since the beginning.
	My dad was a little opposed by the idea, but he saw how I handled everything and he sees that I'm doing well for myself and he's cool.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	And my parents are really proud of me.
	Okay.
	We have no name reacts.
	What if you come back home?
	Oh my god.
	What if you come back home to your boyfriend fappy to your OF content?
	How would you feel?
	Oh, we asked that already.
	Did I already know?
	Did I do that one?
	Yeah.
	Oh shit, my bad.
	Okay.
	We have Fally then.
	Fally's going to actually Twitch.
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	How would you feel if your dad got laughed at in his job because of your content?
	How about your future children being bullied at school over his mom, the sex stroker?
	Truth matters, the better.
	Is that ethical?
	Go ahead, Cindy, if you want to respond to this.
	So I'm just thinking, like, why would his coworkers like yeah, it's just a little, it's like not professional, number one.
	Number two, it's like, yeah, like if he has a good relationship with his coworkers, he wouldn't violate him like that.
	Do you want to have kids?
	I do want to have kids.
	Do you want to have kids?
	Do you want to have kids?
	She's gone.
	Would you, do you have any concerns about your future kids being bullied when it comes to your OnlyFans content?
	So I think that it's like I feel like it's not going to affect them.
	But at the same time, what if I choose to not have kids?
	What if I adopt kids?
	Yeah.
	Or like or homeschool kids or take them to like a private school and like just depending on what I want to do with my life.
	Something to think about though.
	What about you?
	I have a few thoughts on it.
	One, I have to think about the timeline when I have children.
	By the time I have children, how much bigger is the internet going to be?
	And like, will I even be relevant anymore?
	Will any of the girls that are relevant now going to be relevant anymore?
	Or is someone going to take their place?
	And then by that time, you know, I'm going to look different.
	Some people even like change their names.
	So that's a factor as well.
	But I do think regardless of whether their peers know about it or not, I think it is important to have that conversation with your children.
	Sure.
	Just to make them aware.
	I mean, in response to that, I would say that the internet is forever.
	My question, you mentioned changing your name.
	Let's say you stop doing OnlyFans.
	Right.
	You need to get up?
	No, let me hop in on that.
	I have more.
	So would you guys, let's say you guys stop doing OnlyFans, or maybe you don't, but let's say you do.
	Are you, if you're going to start dating a guy, would you be open and forthcoming about the fact that you're engaged in sex work?
	With a guy that I'm marrying?
	No.
	Wait, what?
	So what can you do?
	Let's say you start dating a guy.
	Would you disclose to him that you do OnlyFans?
	Of course.
	Like currently.
	Yeah.
	You have to.
	What about if you choose to stop doing OnlyFans?
	Would you disclose to them like, hey, just letting you know, like, I used to do this.
	It's part, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Part of your life.
	Mm-hmm.
	You had something?
	Yeah, I do.
	So this is a dating story.
	I met a young lady.
	I was visiting a city and met her by chance.
	Fantastic girl.
	Like, she was, everything was very kind about her.
	Looked like a modest young lady.
	Everything was great.
	She had a tattoo.
	And I'll tell you the end of the story.
	At this point, I was like, man, this girl's actually great.
	I could potentially date this young lady.
	So far, she's checking the boxes.
	Again, it's very early stages.
	But I didn't know much about her.
	So I sent a picture of her to my team.
	I was like, hey, can we just see what we know about this girl?
	Just make sure she's not a terrorist, Russian spy, whatever, trying to get American secrets.
	Who knows?
	Anyways, while in that thing, it's incredibly simple.
	I mean, it's hard to change, even if you get a significant amount of surgery, it's hard to change the biometrics of your body.
	And we have a lot of programs.
	We just used the tattoo.
	She had not been doing OnlyFans for a very long time.
	Like she started when it was very, like, right at the very beginning.
	And it instantly popped up her pictures.
	Because you can go back in time on the web.
	And then so like instantly popped up her pictures.
	And I was like, listen, like, I understand that you stopped.
	I understand that you're redeemed in the Lord, all these great things.
	I personally cannot be with you because I'm an example to young men.
	I'm an example to young women.
	I don't want young women to think like, oh, hey, I can do this and it has no cost because if I stop, then I can get a guy like Madison.
	I'm not saying I'm a high-level guy, but I'm just saying there's a huge cost to it.
	And no matter what, it will be, I will confine your content for the rest of time.
	That's just no choice.
	And less than the answer.
	So it totally goes back to the conversation of like how OnlyFans or sex work gets in the way of building certain types of relationships and certain people that you want to be in a relationship with.
	Yes, you have to find a certain quality of a person who will accept you for that.
	And it doesn't bother them in any way particular, career-wise or otherwise.
	They're going to have to accept that and be open with that or at least accept that you did it in the past or something like that.
	So that would be something that limited your availability for partnership with somebody.
	But if you're, you know, that's why we disclose it at the very beginning, like, oh, we work in sex work or adult work or whatever.
	You disclose it at the beginning, not, you know, nip it at the butt so that person could differentiate at the very beginning whether or not they want to continue.
	That way you don't like build feelings.
	Both people build feelings within like three or four months.
	You start to really like the person and start to really like spend a lot of time with that person and you get that out of the way.
	Get out of the way because this is how we make our living.
	All right, we got a chat here from Fally.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it, Mr. Congressman.
	Forgot your name or didn't hear it.
	My apologies.
	This is Madison Cawthorne.
	I'm impressed at your level of debate manners.
	I hope you set the standard going forward.
	I salute you.
	Everyone else, enjoy your night.
	Hey, thank you, Fally.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you, Fally.
	Appreciate it.
	I wanted to touch on, we were talking a little bit earlier on, you had mentioned, Cindy, something about experience related to, I guess it was body count, or you asked us, do guys prefer experience in a woman?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, actually, wait, hold on.
	I need to address your thing first here.
	So I'll know about you, Madison.
	I'll know about you.
	But if I'm meeting a girl and I'm interested in her and she reveals to me, by the way, your competition is I'm currently in a friends with benefits, I'm fucking three to five other dudes, that's not a girl I'm pursuing.
	Like, live your life, but goodbye.
	I'm not interested in that.
	So I'll know how you feel about that.
	But like, and for me, the thresholds, like, to me, that's way beyond the threshold of what I would accept.
	So I want a girl who's properly single when I meet her.
	Like, if you're even sleeping with one dude, it's a wrap.
	Sorry.
	Were you, was that like a disagree?
	No, That was just like, excuse me.
	Just like breathing.
	Okay.
	If a girl's sleeping with one guy, that's automatic disqualification.
	If I meet you and there's another guy in the picture that you're fucking, automatic disqualification.
	That's not even my threshold, though.
	My threshold is, are you like, if you're dating multiple men, even if you're not sleeping with them, I'm not even interested.
	Yeah, for me, if you're dating multiple men, that's like, I'm like, you know, unless it's like, oh, I went on a date with this guy because I'm trying to find a husband.
	You know, it was all this stuff.
	But if you're sleeping with like a guy every other night, every other week, I'm just like, you're just not the girl for me.
	I mean, now, if a girl, when we talked about this one point, I want to make one caveat, and this is the exception of the rule.
	But if I meet a phenomenal girl and she has a boyfriend, I do not give a shit.
	He is not my friend.
	I will take a look at her.
	I don't know about that.
	I'm just saying.
	If she's not married and she's like, I'm like, that's a great girl.
	I would be interested.
	But I don't know.
	So the majority of the time, if a girl is sleeping with another guy, or especially if she is sleeping with lots of guys, that's an instant no from me.
	There's a lot of fish in the sea.
	Like, I get it, but there's a lot of fish in the sea.
	I don't like to step on toes.
	And there's the whole thing.
	I don't want to step on toes because there's some crazy motherfuckers out there.
	And this is one other thing is, I mean, this is like a biblical principle.
	It is like, if a man is scorned in this way, like, there's nothing that can hold back his rage.
	And, like, let's say that, you know, let's say that if I was dating a girl and she got like super drunk or whatever, was that out for whatever?
	No girl I date like goes out and gets super drunk.
	But let's say it was an exception to a rule, whatever.
	Like she was out for her friend's like bridal shower.
	And some guy walked up to her and kissed her.
	And she's like, oh my gosh, get away from me.
	I'm going to jail.
	Because I would forgive her.
	I'd be like, okay, that's okay.
	But that guy's brakes are all of a sudden going to go out in his car and he's going to fucking die.
	Like it's just, it's just, I'm not interested.
	I'm not interested.
	Like if a guy touches my girl, it's just, it's over.
	I mean, like, oh, protect her.
	Because I was going to say, like, for me, like, I know you said if the girl's like super amazing, but she's got a boyfriend, it sounds like you would still try to pursue her.
	For me, this is my friends, because my friends all have great girlfriends.
	I'll never get encroached.
	Like, there's some crazy dudes out there.
	If you try to infiltrate, like, try to, bro, you can get clipped.
	Like, I'm not trying to get clipped for pussy.
	You know, like, it's not.
	Even my wife, I'm not like if, oh, she could be my future wife.
	There's plenty of fish in the sea.
	She's got a boyfriend.
	I'm not going to step on any toes because there's a lot of unhinged people out there.
	And you don't know.
	And man, I do respect that.
	And I don't want to see you get clipped.
	I don't want to die.
	We need you back in Congress.
	Can't you have you getting clipped?
	Because this is a really nice girl.
	Chat, how do we feel about that?
	If you meet the girl of your dream, she meets all your metrics, but she has a boyfriend.
	What would you pursue?
	You're going to try to.
	No, why is he going to pursue?
	You're going to snipe her?
	Or what's it called?
	You're going to try to, what's it called?
	Don't respect.
	I have a question.
	Swoop?
	Are you going to swoop?
	I don't think you swoop.
	I think if she's got a boyfriend, you don't swoop.
	I don't think you swoop.
	No, I am in the minority.
	I'm going to have to really have some self.
	I don't have to think about it.
	What if she leaves you for another guy?
	The way she left her boyfriend.
	That's a fair point.
	What is it?
	How you meet them is how they leave, or how you get them is how you can find that.
	Okay, did you say if she has a boyfriend, you will pursue her, but if she's sleeping with somebody, you will not pursue her.
	Is that what you said?
	I was saying, in a very rare case, if a girl has a boyfriend, just to be aware of her.
	And she's great.
	I would consider pursuing her.
	But you wouldn't have to do that.
	And that's what you want.
	But she's also a bad person.
	If a girl is just sleeping around with a different guy on Monday, Wednesday, or every other Wednesday or whatever.
	She's sleeping with one guy, but they're not officially.
	For me, even if it's one guy, it's deal breaker.
	Goodbye.
	I don't want a girl with a lot of experience.
	I really don't.
	I understand, it's hard to find a virgin in these kind of days, but I don't want a girl with a 10-count, 10-body count.
	She has a boyfriend.
	I have a question, because you guys both said that you guys wouldn't even consider dating a girl if she was even sleeping with more than one guy or seeing another guy.
	Would you guys hold the same standards for yourselves?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Then I think that's fair.
	I think if, well, the equivalent would be, do I think it's fair for a woman to not want to date a guy who's sleeping with another woman?
	Yes, absolutely.
	That's totally reasonable.
	I don't have a double standard on this, but my view is I want a woman's undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	If I go on the first date, like our first time meeting, and there's other dudes in the picture, you got other dates planned down the pipeline, you're sleeping with another dude.
	I'm not the guy for you.
	So I want your immediate.
	What was she doing before she met you in that case?
	What's that?
	Waiting.
	What was she doing before you met you in that case?
	It's really not that hard to be properly single.
	Like, you don't got to be.
	If you're fucking a dude, my question is, why aren't you trying to get wifed up by the dude?
	Why aren't you trying to be in a room?
	Why are you fucking three, four, five dudes?
	It only takes one open marriage.
	I hate you too much.
	I'm not talking about fucking because you said if she's got like dates lined up and stuff like that.
	But if she's dating, she went on a date with you.
	Why wouldn't she consider other people like dinner?
	Sure.
	I can get that.
	Like if she had already, preferably she's properly single, but I can see in some scenario, probably most scenarios, especially if you meet on dating apps, for example, where I meet her.
	She's probably has a lot of, even average women can have like a date every single night of the week if they're so inclined.
	My thing is, if I go on a first date with you, if you want a second date, the other dudes have to be a rap.
	It has to be...
	Let me just finish.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, if I go on the first date with you and you like me and you want to go on a second date, the other dudes have to be a rap.
	You can't be fucking the, well, look, if you fucked a guy the day before we went on a date, I'm probably not that interested in you.
	Whether a girl reveals that or not, that's another question.
	I hope she does.
	And I hope that's not the type of girl I end up on a date on.
	But if I go on the first date and you want a second date with me, all the other dudes has to be a rap.
	Otherwise, I'm not interested.
	Wait, quick question.
	Would you tell her that you would, like, when you go on a date with her, would you say, hey, on the second date, like, or if we decide that we want to see each other again, da-da-da.
	Do you communicate to her that, or do you just expect?
	So when I used to, I used to be on dating apps, yes.
	However, my new standard now is, because, you know, I'm in the content creation game, you know, somebody's, you know, whatever.
	I'm going to ask up front, are you properly single?
	Are you seeing another guy?
	Are you dating another guy?
	Are you sleeping with another guy?
	And tell me, because cool, we're not right for each other.
	But I'd rather know up front.
	I'm not, because like I'm very, I'm not like interested in like, okay, let's do a six-month situationship.
	And no, like, I want your undivided romantic sexual attention.
	So I'm going to be like, kind of focused in on the girls.
	So I'm pretty, just to answer your question as well.
	I'm pretty like forward with like my expectations of like, hey, this is kind of what I'm doing, what I'm looking for.
	But I don't even think I'd bring that up because there's really not a girl that I'd be interested in marrying.
	Right.
	That like if like we went on our first date, like our first interaction, then she's like, well, I'm still just going to go try, see how these other guys are.
	How are you going to call off between there and I like that?
	Because I feel like everyone has their standards and that's okay.
	Not everyone is going to meet your expectations as long as you communicate it and don't put any kind of expectations or have someone, you know, read your mind or, you know, don't ever like be like, don't ever bash on someone because they don't have, they didn't meet your expectations if you didn't communicate them.
	So I respect that you're very try to change a chick if she's fucking with other dudes.
	There's people for you and there's people for a chick girl.
	If you guys are not meant for each other, that's cool.
	Yeah.
	But I'll ask up front.
	I'll be like, if, you know, I'll hop on a phone call.
	If she said, you know, if someone said, if I'm talking to a girl and she's like, I'm going to date you and see if, you know, I'm still dating other people.
	I used to deal with like low interest, medium interest women, not anymore.
	I only deal with high interest women.
	It's not worth my time.
	If you got multiple dudes and you're kind of on the I don't want a girl who's offensitor.
	I want a girl who's like, I really like you, Brian.
	Fuck the other dudes.
	How does she not know that on that first one date?
	No, it's even before the first date.
	Before the first date.
	I need to know somebody before.
	So if they're sliding into the DMs, like they're interested.
	How are you going to know you're going to want to get married and like, how are you going to know that you're going to want to see this person exclusively only on the first date?
	That's my divorce rate.
	Anybody can divorce this dude.
	Look, I get you guys might think that this is like kind of crazy, but how many people out here are complaining about men don't want to commit.
	I'm in a six-month situation shit.
	He's fucking other chicks.
	Like you might think that this is like a really crazy way to approach this, but I actually think it's incredibly effective because I'm like, yo, I don't want you seeing other dudes.
	I'm not going to like play this game where I'm cool with you fucking other dudes.
	I don't want, because I know exactly what I want.
	I don't want a girl who's fucking other guys.
	I'm not going to be cool with that.
	I know that.
	I'm going to tell you that up front.
	I want you properly single and I want you only seeing me.
	That's it.
	Was she properly single if she was on a dating app whenever y'all met?
	Preferably, I don't want to even date a girl who's on dating apps, to be honest.
	Well, I was just wondering because you mentioned that.
	But no, most girls on dating apps have like they're exploring their options.
	They're going on like multiple dates a week.
	So that's not really.
	I used to be on dating apps and it wasn't.
	How does she find you?
	Yeah, no.
	Somebody that she wants to slide into the DMs.
	They slide into the DMs.
	I know, but how is she going to find you if she's not open to dating in the first place?
	Because if she's properly single and you don't want her to be dating around, that means y'all would have never met and y'all would have never been on a date.
	Well, I mean, you don't want somebody to do that.
	I realize that this is, so I realize that I'm in this kind of unique position that probably doesn't apply to a lot of like the average guy because I'm out there in the ether when it comes to content creation.
	So like I do have, like, there's women who will slide into the DMs because I've been doing content creation for 10 plus years.
	Like, so I do have that sort of privilege, I guess, when it comes to sourcing women who like are already are interested in me just because of my public presence.
	When you want a first date, how many first dates do you have lined up?
	Huh?
	When you go on a first date and you're interested in someone?
	i'm pretty selective so i'm not like trying to go on like i like when i was like if i'm single like maybe it depends really I mean, if you like them?
	I don't, I don't like going on a lot of first dates, so maybe, like, one or two a month, maybe.
	What do you like about someone before you meet them?
	Right.
	Their looks.
	I mean, I always would do a phone call with somebody first.
	But, like, when I was on dating apps.
	You really got a FaceTime these days because with Face Two, you get fucked up.
	I've seen that happen to a lot of guys.
	I mean, how much do you learn about them?
	Take one or two calls or whatever before you meet them.
	I think you can get a pretty good sense of somebody, but I mean, it's not perfect.
	Yeah, but as long as you get the vibe, I mean, that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so.
	Do you feel like look?
	Are you a looks or personality kind of guy?
	What do you mean?
	When it comes to.
	I mean, both are super.
	Like, what if there's a girl that's like super hot that?
	The mentality is literally matches you perfectly.
	Like this girl is amazing.
	She's kind, caring.
	She has all the attributes.
	She bows, Nick.
	Can you get the bowing video?
	But she's not attractive.
	She's not physical.
	She's alright, but she's not like she's like less than average.
	Attractive.
	But she's like amazing personality.
	A 10.
	Like she's a six personality.
	So attractiveness has to come first because I'm not going to be interested in getting to know you in like a romantic way if I'm not attractive.
	So you guys agree that looks are important.
	Looks complex.
	Of course, looks are important, but I would say I would probably actually prefer the girl who is really cool or whatever over dealing like a girl who's a 10, but she's like, makes my life.
	She's a fucking headache.
	She's got BPD.
	She's got mental health issues.
	She's a fucking dude.
	You got BPD?
	Yeah.
	I'm not.
	I don't date.
	I'm not about BPD chicks.
	I did it once.
	I'm not doing it again.
	What you have?
	You have BPD.
	Why are we in a box?
	Not all BPD.
	Well, my public service announcement to all the men watching.
	Do not date women with cluster B personality disorders.
	But it's not like bipolar.
	I'm not bipolar.
	It's bipolar disorder.
	BPD can be worse, to be honest.
	It's not bipolar.
	It's very, actually, very different.
	Gentlemen, like if a woman has any cluster B personality disorders, my strong recommendation for you, as somebody who dated a woman with BPD, never fucking again.
	Never again.
	Gentlemen, your peace is very important.
	Peace is one of the.
	I think peace is one of the most important things a girl can bring you.
	It is.
	And if your girl is quarrelsome, what's that Proverbs 21, 19?
	It's better to live on the corner of an attic than in a luxurious home.
	I've heard a quarrelsome woman.
	I've also heard it's better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
	So peace is one of the most important things I think a woman can bring a man.
	And so if.
	Hold on though, but BPD comes every BPD, it ain't worth it, bro.
	It's different.
	It ain't worth it.
	Everybody is so topic.
	Like we can't mental health change.
	She's not crazy at all.
	Did you hear that guy?
	107 dollars hey B get the first girl on your left in gold to give a comment she seems like she has something intelligent she has been quiet which means she has something smart in her head Nice.
	Okay.
	Anything?
	I mean.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	I mean, I really don't have too much to comment on with those types of subjects because I don't know nothing about it.
	What kind of guy are you looking for?
	I'm actually looking for whatever God gives me.
	Okay, there you have it.
	There he is.
	All right.
	I love that.
	Wait, so what about BPD?
	You have BPD?
	I do.
	Have you ever slashed tires?
	No.
	You only bankrupt men?
	No.
	Oh, can we actually talk about the paving thing?
	We'll get that.
	From your podcast, DM me saying, Thank you so much for allowing me to realize what I want to do with my life.
	And that, like, I made them realize that that's what they want to do.
	Why do they want to go?
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Who's the fucking simp who said that?
	I don't think I've ever had more pay pigs.
	Hit me up than after your podcast.
	Oh, fuck.
	What the fuck?
	Yo, what the fuck, chat?
	And also, like, that's literally their purpose.
	So L chat.
	L chat.
	Let's do it.
	Wait, wait, go deeper into that.
	What did you mean?
	That's literally their purpose.
	Their purpose is that.
	They get off on being bankrupt.
	Their purpose in life is to serve her and her pockets.
	Yeah, and financial domination.
	Unethical.
	Man, I'm telling you, if we would just kill this person, we love that you guys.
	Wait, we love that you guys have to be able to get to the bottom of the business.
	Hold on.
	We love that you guys have been able to express yourself.
	We've been listening and respecting your opinions and all that stuff.
	We all have different opinions, and there is men or simps or pay pigs or whatever for each one of us.
	There's different, there's different, there's different flavors for each person.
	Not everybody's going to have the same opinion, and we respect your opinion.
	You can have your pure virgin young woman wife or whatever you want.
	Low body count, I'm fine with a low body count.
	You can have that.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	It's you.
	Whatever.
	It's also like.
	And I think that's the best.
	I think it's also the best for society.
	Yeah, for you.
	No, it's also the best.
	No, well, men will date necessitously.
	So out of necessity, they will accept a promiscuous woman or a high-body count woman because they can't get better.
	Because they can't get better.
	Why can't we have opinions to you guys?
	I totally think you can have an opinion.
	Yeah.
	In my opinion, in my opinion, it's unethical to bankrupt men if they like it.
	Yeah.
	If they like it.
	Yeah, that's mental illness.
	That's unethical.
	No, it's not.
	A mental illness is unethical.
	Yes, if a guy is willing to as some sort of sexual hold on stop.
	Stop.
	Yeah, okay.
	Oh my God, bro.
	Let me fucking finish a point, please.
	If a guy has a sexual fetish or a kink that is going to like manifestly make his life worse through bankruptcy, I think that that's mental illness and I think that's you taking advantage of somebody and it's clearly unethical and it's clearly immoral.
	Hold on.
	So if somebody who is mentally unhealthy asks you to delete them.
	That's not a problem.
	Why is that my problem?
	How would that happen?
	But just because somebody asks you to do something doesn't mean that it's right.
	A lot of times in that fetish, they say they're bankrupt and they're not.
	Yeah, no, exactly.
	And that's role-playing.
	There's a lot of safe, sane.
	There's a lot of safe, sane.
	Oh my god.
	Oh my God.
	What are you fucking doing?
	Make a fucking.
	It's okay.
	She made a mistake.
	Would you say that about all kinks?
	Well, I think that sometimes...
	Are all kinks mental...
	Sorry.
	Sorry, guys.
	I think sometimes I lost it.
	And people doing OF, they lack accountability with their part that they do kind of contribute something to society.
	And I think that it's easy for you guys to be like, well, it's not my problem, but that's problematic because whether you want to admit it or not, you are contributing something to society.
	But okay, let's say someone has a kink of being tied, right?
	And I tie them up.
	And someone's saying, or getting whipped, right?
	And they start bleeding, right?
	Right.
	How is that my problem if they like it and they like to get whipped?
	But I'm hitting them.
	Because you're exploiting their mental health.
	How is that mental illness?
	It's a fetish.
	Fetishes.
	It's not normal.
	They're not mental illness.
	Hey, are you on your cell phone?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	It looked like you were texting.
	You guys don't know, but there's a huge world of like BDSM, FinDong, whatever.
	It's like you might not know it, but it's very, very big.
	I think it can be separated.
	I think in situations, I think it can go one to another, but I think people with specific kinks lead normal lives with healthy minds.
	I think it's because of that.
	Or it's a trauma response to what they use.
	A lot of people have used kinks and fetishes as a form of therapy.
	So I think that sometimes if you take things to an extreme, it can illuminate if it's moral or if it's not moral.
	I think so.
	So back in the day, back in the day, people believed in the divine right of conquest.
	And so they said it is right for us to be able to do anything because God has willed it if we are capable of beating you.
	And so, because of that, you had entire cultures destroyed, ripped apart, and crushed.
	And now, like, sometimes it was beneficial for society, sometimes it just destroyed a lot of lives.
	And I mean, so that's it.
	That's exactly what you saw in the 1940s when people were trying to take over the world and say that, oh, there's only one race that is made in the image of God.
	And so, therefore, they believe they had the divine right of conquest.
	And so, they wanted, and so that they were saying the exact same thing: why is it my problem if you can't beat me in battle?
	And so, I think we have a duty.
	We have a duty as humans to try, and I say as children of God, to try and make the world, we can't help the world that we were born into, but we can help the world that we leave behind.
	And so, I think that if you are engaging in an activity that is abusing people, bankrupting people, making our society, the West, our, and I'm using the word literal, small L, not big L, our liberal ideals that every single person has rights, every single person has meaning, and every single person has a purpose.
	If you are trying to destroy our ability to have that great culture by bankrupting people and by destroying them and by distracting them, I think you are detracting from society.
	You said something very important.
	You said abuse.
	So, abuse is never okay.
	Yeah.
	In BDSM, in a power exchange, and for domination and submission, you have to negotiate all of the limitations that anything outside of a limitation is abuse.
	And so, that's a very, very huge conversation in the BDSM community.
	So, nobody ever goes over that point, over that limit.
	And if you do, it is mental manipulation, and then it gets to a point where it is dangerous.
	And there is an entire sub-community for support in that way.
	Then you get into DV and all that other stuff.
	There is connections all over the place.
	BDSM is not exempt from that, but it does not encompass that either.
	Exactly.
	And I wanted to say something.
	You brought up how some people use kinks as a form of therapy, right?
	I just see it as like, why not just go to an actual therapist?
	Some people do.
	I've heard stories of people have done therapy for 20 years and they found a dominatrix and it saved them.
	It saved their life.
	They came back from the lift.
	So I've heard stories like that.
	I've always had a lot of people.
	And some guy wants to fuck you.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I really want to say that.
	No, they don't.
	They don't.
	That's not what it is.
	That's not what it is.
	I don't think you guys know enough about.
	I definitely do not know what therapy is.
	And it's not like that at all.
	BDSM is half.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	It's not sex.
	Especially in Japanese body art calls.
	Person speaking at time, please.
	Thank you.
	Go ahead.
	I was going to say I wanted to get tied up.
	It's called Shibaru.
	It's like a Jabuki.
	Shibaru yes.
	It's a Japanese.
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	Hey, B and panel, have a great night.
	Bedtime for the old man of the audience.
	Ladies, stop the of now.
	If you can.
	You will be better in the long run.
	Develop skills now.
	Trust me, Dad.
	Yo, dude, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I don't think that inhibits on you gaining any skills throughout your life, but okay.
	Appreciate it.
	Here, I'm going to read a couple chats, then we're going to get into some actual proper topics.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We have infinite singularity, relational merit wanes under the duress of discord, irrespective of aesthetic allure, an individual of high aesthetic appeal, yet harboring a vexing demeanor.
	This is some fucking Shakespeare shit.
	Right.
	Induces such duress ergo.
	Congeniality trumps physical allure in appraising relational worth.
	Wow, that was wow.
	That was a lot.
	That was like, have you seen the matrix with the architect?
	This is like how you're like ergo.
	Yo, infinite singularity.
	I need you to send in another chat, and you need to use ergo, vis-a-vis, and apropos.
	Okay, you have to, in your chat, you have to use those three: ergo, vis-a-vis, and apropos.
	I love it.
	Thank you, appreciate it.
	And we have infinite singularity.
	Respecting diverse opinions means accepting varying viewpoints.
	Respecting all opinions, even those against diversity, nullifies diversity's value.
	Thus, universally respecting opinions contradicts the essence of valuing diversity.
	We have infinite singularity there.
	Dropping some bombs.
	Hey, thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Very much appreciate it.
	And then we have just being honest.
	Madison, with all due respect, a man that doesn't respect another man's relationship one is a selfish child that wants other men's toys, and two should end up in a wheel.
	Oh, okay, that's it.
	Yikes.
	Wow.
	Yikes.
	Let's move on.
	What's the next for you, buddy?
	Yeah, no, no.
	We'll just let that go.
	Okay, all right.
	We got grid one.
	Grid one motorsport has donated $200.
	Hearing this justification of being supremely horrible humans is sad.
	Normally, I use the phrase soul-sucking horse joking.
	Whoa, okay.
	But in this panel's case, goddamn, bro.
	Holy shit.
	You are the problem in society.
	God damn.
	Fucking.
	Let's be nice.
	We gotta be polite.
	We gotta be polite.
	Okay.
	And then thank you, Grid 1, though.
	Appreciate it.
	Good to you in the chat.
	We have SoFlow AK.
	He says, Would the panel date someone out of their ordinary type?
	All the chica mamas down here in Miami always say they aren't interested in white guys rednecks, but they always end up in spicy, ridiculous love.
	I can see that.
	That's like super Miami.
	Well, you're from Miami.
	No, I'm not from Miami, but like.
	Do you live in Florida?
	I live in Florida.
	I live in Orlando.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	So going around the table, would you date someone out of your ordinary type?
	Yes.
	Definitely.
	No.
	Oh, yeah, we should get into types.
	We should also ask everybody what their types are.
	We can do that really quick.
	yes yes yes yes yes yes um oh yeah We didn't do the bowing video.
	Eh, we'll do it later, maybe.
	Yeah, I would.
	I did.
	I've got even if she wasn't there.
	With that, like, we all have non-negotiables.
	And if a woman meets your non-negotiables, like, there are things like, oh, maybe I prefer this eye color, but it's like, but she's fantastic in every other way.
	It's like, okay, well.
	If she's got a hundred body count, I don't care.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like a non-negotiable deal, exactly.
	I don't care how fantastic you are, how hot you are.
	It doesn't work.
	Yeah.
	So, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, so what's everybody's type?
	We'll go around the table on this.
	Maybe you don't have a type, but I don't really have a type, but I have phases.
	What's your current phase?
	I felt that.
	Right now, I guess.
	Asian guys?
	Do you like Asian guys?
	I like all different types of guys.
	Okay.
	So I can't really choose a race.
	Tell us, like, have you had any three phases?
	Do I have what?
	Like, what were your three?
	Like, if you had to, you had multiple phases, right?
	What are three of the phases you've had when it comes to type?
	Um, like, I guess, like, white, okay, okay, white, Hispanic, Hispanic, black, you know, like, everything.
	So, you had a phase.
	So, are you saying you had a phase where, like, okay, you only dated white guys, then you only dated Latino guys, and then you only dated black guys?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, I guess you can put it like that, but I haven't talked to anybody.
	Like, like, there's no what about Asian guys?
	I like Asian guys.
	Okay.
	What's your type?
	Simps goons and sugar daddies.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, what's that?
	Say that again?
	Simps, goons, and sugar daddies.
	What is a goon?
	Oh, my God.
	Is that like a guy that watches porn?
	Oh, is that what a goon is?
	I didn't know what that's.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so Simps, Goons, and Spinner.
	It's like a whole other category.
	That's a whole other category.
	I love them too.
	Next.
	Oh, I don't really have a type, but.
	You don't have a type?
	It's just like if we click.
	But when he asked if you would date someone outside of your type, you said no.
	What I mean, like if we have like two different personalities, then I'm not going to like half up on you.
	But if we click, then you.
	Oh, yeah, I got something for you, Madison.
	Oh, here we go.
	Actually, hold on.
	Let me just derail the conversation.
	Madison, what was your favorite raid in Burning Crusade?
	Oh, gosh.
	Were you a raider?
	Did you raid or my PvP guy?
	I'm a PvP guy.
	Like, did a reading?
	If you go take Stormfront or Stormwind and you'd kill the king, that was a very happy day.
	Okay.
	Whatever that means.
	Okay.
	I do not have a physical type.
	My preferences are internal.
	Internal?
	Yeah.
	Like non-physical.
	They have two kidneys?
	Yeah.
	That's a good one.
	Two kidneys.
	Two guys.
	Non-physical.
	Two testicles?
	Preferably.
	Those are kind of external, sort of.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Anyways, I don't know what else going for there.
	Okay, what about you?
	I wouldn't say I have a type, but I guess a preference.
	But I've dated a lot of all races, so that's why I say I really do go for anything.
	But my preferences would be like Mexican or black people.
	What about you don't have any?
	Like white guys?
	Do you like white guys?
	Do you prefer black guys?
	Like type of people?
	Okay, I prefer a little bit of spice, but we're out.
	We're out.
	We're out of the running.
	Okay.
	But I mean, I like, I don't, you know, I like white guys too.
	Like, I really don't have a specific.
	So, okay.
	I think you're really cute.
	Oh, wait.
	Who?
	No.
	Ooh, that Riz.
	With Riz.
	Go for it.
	Wait.
	So, but when you said that your type is, like, more internal, are you talking like you'd like bad boys?
	Is that kind of like, it's more their attitude?
	Like, you like criminals?
	That's what I mean, but I know.
	I don't like criminals.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't like criminals.
	But, you know, I like.
	I like things that are not physical.
	Like, that's more important to me.
	Yeah.
	Such as?
	Their money?
	I like money, but their heart?
	Yes.
	I like someone.
	I like someone.
	I like someone that is gentlemanlike.
	I like somebody that respects me.
	I like somebody that values my opinions and values me.
	Okay.
	I like somebody that I can relate to.
	Yep.
	Stuff like that.
	That's beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	Thank you.
	I don't really have a type.
	It's just about the personality and like if he checks those good qualities in like a men, I mean in a man where like, you know, his head is on straight, that's all I care about, you know.
	That is, yeah.
	I would say I don't really have a type either.
	It's more of like how you are as a person.
	Like if you're a good human being and you have goals and like aspirations, like kind of like I do, then I like you.
	Of the three to five friends with benefits that you currently have, there's the one.
	God.
	Are they what?
	Are they white?
	Are they white?
	What's what's the white guys?
	Are they tall?
	I mean, they all buy weed, I guess.
	Yeah, they're all tall.
	They all smoke.
	There's probably like a white guy, a Mexican in there, you know.
	I don't discriminate, so I mean, I don't care about race.
	Is the white guy the one that buys you food and weed?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	Oh, he's the one that just hits it but doesn't buy you anything?
	Yeah.
	Good for him.
	Doesn't have to.
	Okay, all right.
	Jesus Christ.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I like someone ambitious, someone.
	So you can bankrupt them?
	No, I just not about money.
	It's just about someone that has goals, someone that is down to earth, someone that is compassionate, loving, and just usually dark-skinned, but sorry, Madison.
	Sorry, Madison.
	It doesn't matter, but yeah.
	What was that ya?
	I don't discriminate.
	I actually just want somebody that values themselves as well as me and just doesn't act crazy.
	Act crazy.
	Okay.
	Madison, what about you?
	What's your type?
	Yeah, no, I definitely have a type.
	So she's got to be a Christian first and foremost.
	That's got a, that's a non-negotiable.
	I don't believe in being unequally yoked.
	Past that, she's got to, you know, I don't mind if for some reason she didn't have a family or something, that's one thing.
	But, you know, I really value the way that she treats her father.
	You know, if she treats her father with respect and dignity, then I know she's probably going to treat me with respect and dignity.
	Or mother, too?
	Specifically, father.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, I think if you're going for a guy, you should probably look at how he treats his mom because it's most similar to you.
	Very true.
	You know, I wanted to be overtly kind, overtly feminine.
	You know, like, and I like when my, you know, is modest most of the time, but I don't mind if my girlfriend or wife wants to show off every once in a while, especially if we're together.
	Like, I don't date ugly women.
	And so, I mean, if they want to dress attractively, but especially if I'm with them, that's that, you know, I'm not going to discriminate against that.
	I don't like if they just leave nothing to the imagination.
	There's got to be something that's just like privately just, you know, ours that we share between the two of us.
	I like if she is comfortable around guns.
	You know, we have the same political ideology.
	What's your type, though?
	I'm breaking it down.
	Oh, I thought we were talking about physical type, like white men.
	Physical type?
	Black men in life lawns.
	Oh, I mean, if we want to get it.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Gosh, it is a high tie with a second place.
	High tie type.
	So it's going to be basically, it's going to be tied between, you know, like your Nordic, Sweden, Slavic countries, and then also that's tied in with their tie.
	That's tied with Colombian.
	Do you prefer blonde?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, no, I mean, it's the wine swath.
	It's that, that, you know, Nordic, you know, blue eyes, blonde hairs, tigers.
	No, but that's, that's tied with Colombian girls.
	I mean, you know, I love that.
	But then second place is going to be probably like Persian women.
	If we're talking about like what I prefer the most.
	But again, what I'm looking for, like, physically is not a non-negotiable for me.
	Like, obviously, I have to be attracted to them, but the non-negotiables are like, are you a Christian?
	Are you going to be a wife who submits?
	And we can break that down, like what submitting looks like.
	And do you honor your father and mother?
	That kind of stuff.
	These are the non-negotiables.
	Do you want children?
	Do you want to homeschool your children?
	How do you feel about a lot of the medical stuff that's forced on babies right when they're born?
	How do you feel about if there's going to be a dangerous situation?
	Do you panic and shut down?
	Are you going to be able to handle it?
	How are you?
	And just this is a specific one for me, ultra-specific, but how are you going to be able to handle a lot of public scrutiny?
	Like, you know, if you're just out with your friends at like getting pizza and there's some funny song and you get on top of a table, it's probably going to end up on the front page of Politico.
	Are you going to be able to handle that or is that going to shatter you?
	You know, that kind of thing.
	Or if you get ambushed by TMZ, can you answer the questions?
	Random question.
	Would you ask someone on a first date exactly that to get to know if you're going to have a second date?
	Yeah, the non-negotiables, I will ask on the first date no matter what.
	I'll know those before the first date.
	I don't think I've ever gone on a date with a non-Christian.
	Good shit.
	I guess I'll say my type.
	Oh, by the way, I got, sorry to the chat and to the panel.
	I got tilted.
	I got tilted earlier.
	It's been an interesting pre-show and show so far.
	So my type.
	Any race is fine.
	Any race is fine.
	I'd say I have a slight preference.
	Slight preference.
	Towards Asian women and white women.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Slight preference for short women.
	The shorter, the better.
	She can legally be a dwarf, I guess.
	Midget, I guess, is a dwarf.
	Honestly, like, I like telling five two women they're too tall for me.
	That's always fun.
	What?
	It's fun.
	Yeah, I'm 5'2, too tall.
	Sorry.
	You're Amazon women.
	I'm 5'2 is considered too tall.
	I'm sorry, you're just an Amazon.
	You're 5'2 ⁇ .
	No, 5'2.
	You're just way too tall.
	I'm sorry, you're too tall.
	You're too tall.
	So you know that's a kink as well, by the way.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah.
	Really, really short, like a dwarf.
	That's not a kink.
	How's that a kink?
	You're welcome.
	You're welcome.
	This education hour.
	Wait, what?
	Liking really short women.
	That's not a kink.
	That's a kink man.
	So is it for women who like tall men?
	That's a kink.
	Or is that just like normal?
	I mean, there's like really tall guys.
	Like, love like 6'6 guys.
	You need like a tall guy.
	That's a good idea.
	Okay, cool.
	I think it's an overly dietary.
	Fetishes don't have to be, oh, I like getting tied.
	So this is one thing that I get really frustrated with our world.
	We live in such an overly diagnosed society where it's like, oh, well, you like that.
	That actually means that you have this technical name that I came up with in an ivory tower point.
	That's cool.
	Okay, cool.
	If you want to label it as a kink, I sure am.
	Oh, I've got a lot.
	I've got a list here.
	I've written it down.
	I'm a natural body supremacist.
	So, you know, obviously I care about like hygiene and grooming and shit, but like Very strong preference for no plastic surgery.
	No fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipos, no labia plasty.
	That's actually, you know what?
	What does that mean?
	Oh, so women, okay, so like having Audi.
	Women have some, women have Audis.
	Do you know an Audi?
	Are you familiar with Audi?
	You know, moving on.
	I don't want to know.
	I got to run for a while.
	How would you know whether or not they had a labioplasty or not?
	Can you tell?
	Like, if someone's asking on a first date, that's a name.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's great.
	I only date women with Audis.
	What?
	What?
	I only date with.
	I will only date.
	Are you already thinking that guy had the belly button?
	No, I just prefer.
	I'm just, I mean, I'm being, I'm sort of being, I'm exaggerating.
	I don't really.
	It's not a.
	I prefer.
	Innies and Audis, they're both great.
	Do I have a slight preference for Audis?
	Yes, I do.
	It's not a dips.
	What do you have a preference for an Audi?
	Lips that grip.
	Hello?
	What?
	Lips that grip.
	Shit.
	So disturbing.
	Wait, why is that?
	Everyone was like making everybody else has their preferences and their values and respect.
	And it's like you're focusing on labia.
	How's that disturbing?
	Are you asking that on the first date?
	Do you have labioplasty?
	Are you an innie or an Audi?
	What color is that?
	I mean, sometimes it comes up.
	You might as well be on OnlyFans with everybody else.
	Wait, what the fuck?
	Yeah.
	You're asking about labiopylies.
	But why is that?
	So you object to me having that preference?
	No, that's a personal thing.
	But you said it's disturbing.
	You said it's disturbing.
	That's like on the top of your list.
	That's something you would ask on a first date.
	Oh my God, this girl takes everything so seriously.
	No, you just don't.
	I mean, you're making everybody else.
	So I'm just curious.
	I'm genuinely curious what this is.
	So what's your question?
	Oh, I asked, was that something you ask on a first date if they have a labia plasty?
	I don't, no, I don't ask if they have a labia plasty, but it's there's some realm where it could come up if she's gotten outie.
	But what if she's got an outies?
	Or I don't always ask, but I'll, when we hook up, I'll know then.
	How will you know though?
	Well, how long?
	What do you mean?
	How do you how do you know if a guy has a six-inch dick versus a 12-inch dick?
	It's right fucking there.
	Surgery, though, like no, Oh, my God.
	No.
	Hold on.
	You're saying, how would I know if she's had a labia plasty?
	Yes, if she doesn't tell me, I suppose I wouldn't know, but how do I know if a girl has an Audi versus an innie?
	That's all.
	Yeah.
	I didn't know you were saying that.
	I thought you said I would know if she's had labioplasty.
	Oh, well, I'm against labia plasty, but do I have a preference for women with Audis?
	Never heard that.
	Audio.
	Would you object if a woman had a preference of a guy's like penis size?
	Almost all women have preferences for that.
	Yeah.
	Most women, if presented with a micropenis, in fact, I think we have a girl here who wrote this would not want to date a guy without like you guys have genital.
	Like a lot of women are like, what?
	What's up with the Audi thing?
	Like y'all have preferences for dick size and whatever the fuck.
	I thought women sacrifice that for personality though.
	A lot of women have.
	A lot of women don't have everyone at this table said that they would go against their type.
	Again, I think we were talking about non-negotiables.
	It's not a deal.
	Like I, if a woman has an innie, innies are great too.
	I'm just saying.
	Do I have a slight preference towards Audis?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay.
	Yeah, got it.
	Okay, period.
	What?
	Should we do an Audi check?
	Do you guys want to raise your hands and see?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let's do it.
	Raise your hands if you have an Audi.
	Anyone here who have an Audi?
	Anybody?
	I know.
	Wait, what's that?
	$14.99.
	Oh, my friend.
	That's your only phone.
	Yeah, $14.99.
	Thank you.
	Subscribe to find out.
	Jesus Christ.
	That's how you do it.
	But yeah, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo.
	I don't like that.
	Prefer minimal or no makeup.
	No scents, perfumes.
	Deodorant's fine, I guess, but I don't like perfume.
	No scent perfume.
	I don't like perfume.
	So someone's gonna perfume.
	I think it's nice.
	If my girlfriend's coming over to my house, yes, I would prefer her to not crop dust herself in perfume.
	I don't like the smell.
	It gives me allergies, to be honest.
	Even like one little, I don't like the smell.
	It fucking lingers half the time.
	It doesn't even smell that good.
	It's like overpowering.
	No, I don't like perfume.
	I don't know.
	I just don't like perfume.
	I don't like it.
	Missmell, babe.
	No, I'm not missing.
	Unless you actually have like a very allergic.
	It does kind of give me allergies.
	Like, I get a little sniffly if she's wearing fucking perfume.
	Allergier is cute.
	Go ahead with your list.
	That was allergies, though.
	What do you?
	That's my dad.
	That's my type.
	I don't like women that crop dust that.
	And I'll tell a girl like that.
	Crop dust is crazy.
	I don't like any perfume.
	Okay.
	I don't like any perfume.
	Let's hear the rest of the list.
	Yeah, or you could just wear some like mild deodorant.
	Like, most deodorant is not overpowering.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, I guess.
	Well, first off, I think, I mean, you're most Asian people don't have body odor.
	Is that true?
	That's not racist.
	It's you.
	Did you say that's racist?
	You keep bringing up like Asian culture and Asian things.
	Because he likes Asian girls.
	How's that raised?
	No, but like.
	I don't like Asian girls.
	She mentioned most.
	This is not like.
	The deodorant smells bad.
	No.
	It doesn't last long.
	What?
	Most Asian people don't have body odor.
	Okay.
	Or it's like very much why, though.
	I didn't know that.
	It's a gene.
	Like, there's a mitt.
	There's a different.
	Good to know.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Anyway.
	Yeah, look, when it comes to the plastic surgery thing, give me an A-cup over some big giant fake titties.
	Give me a little belly fat over lipo.
	Give me a small lass over BBL.
	Give me a small upper lip over lip fillers.
	I'm a natural body supremacist.
	I don't like all that fake shit.
	And it's just like proxy for proxy for excessive vanity, and I don't find that attractive.
	So yeah, good times.
	What else?
	Oh, personality.
	Okay, let's do the bowing video.
	Let's see the bowing video.
	I like it.
	Okay.
	This is what I want in personality-wise.
	Boom.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Did you see the bow?
	The bow was dope.
	Obviously, this is exaggerated a little bit, but all right.
	Boom.
	Okay, boom.
	Attentive.
	Gotta love it.
	What does she do?
	Oh, running.
	Yep.
	Look at this.
	She's serving her man.
	This is this is like look at that.
	Attentive.
	She opens the drink for him.
	Well, she's stirring his noodles.
	Look at that.
	Look how attentive she is.
	That's on a leash.
	Yeah, literally.
	Watch this, guys.
	Watch this.
	Wait, play it again, Nick.
	Play it again.
	Watch just the first part.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, like that's.
	Oh, my.
	The bow.
	Boom.
	Huge.
	You want a giving dog.
	Yes.
	I want.
	I want, as soon as I walk in the house, I want to bow.
	No.
	Would you guys be down to bow?
	No.
	You wouldn't bow?
	I wouldn't bow.
	No, men bow to us.
	Maybe I'll cook you.
	Yeah, I'm gonna cook you dinner and be like, none of you would bow.
	You would have bowed?
	Men bow to us.
	I wouldn't bow down a dog.
	One at a time, remember?
	If my husband was out working, he was a provider.
	He was the leader in our household.
	I would for sure bow.
	And if he wanted me to bow, yes, I want you to bow.
	And he was like, you know, as much as, and he was like the provider, you know, and he's a good husband.
	Then if he wanted me to, I would.
	But at least it's just like.
	Would you bow, Cindy?
	Would you do a bow?
	I'll bow for daddy.
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	I think the answer is no for you, right?
	Would you bow?
	Oh, you didn't hear me earlier.
	You heard me earlier.
	You said men should bow to women, so okay.
	What about you?
	Would you bow?
	Would you do a bow for your guy, for your boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Based.
	I'm with it.
	You said yes.
	What about you?
	Would you do a bow?
	I mean, what's wrong with a like nice greeting home?
	Like, you know what?
	What if he wants a bow?
	He's like, I need the bow.
	I want the bow.
	I need the bow.
	I need the bow.
	I would do it.
	Okay, what about?
	What about?
	I'm cool.
	You're not going to bow?
	I'll give you a hug.
	No, Okay, what about?
	Would you do the bow?
	You do the bow.
	Can we see a bow?
	How about you show us your bow?
	Do you want to show us your bow?
	Do you want to stand up and show the bow?
	Show us a guy.
	Show us your bow, girl.
	Yeah, of course.
	We need a bow.
	I don't know.
	Curtsy, but.
	Curtsy.
	I don't see what's wrong with that.
	Nobody wants a curtsy to me.
	If you show us deserving a bow, we bow in here.
	Let's see.
	I definitely would say.
	I have a question for you.
	What would you do that deserves a bow?
	Yeah.
	What would I do that deserves a bow?
	Yes.
	Don't think about it.
	What would I do to do?
	I'm the table.
	I am the table.
	Let's see.
	Well, I'm fucking dope, bro.
	I mean, I'm going to take care of it.
	I take care.
	Take care of everything.
	Take care of everything.
	You know, what is taking care of everything?
	Take care of everything.
	I'm taking care of everything.
	That's a man.
	Taking care of everything.
	Okay, that's very vague.
	What kind of a man should a woman submit to?
	Boom.
	Can I take that one?
	Good question.
	Let me just, I want to finish.
	I got to finish my list.
	Let me finish my list at least.
	I got to finish my list.
	Moderate preference for introverted women.
	Quiet, calm, soft-spoken.
	Slightly endearingly awkward.
	A little bit shy, a little bit nerdy.
	Modesty is huge.
	I don't like women with big egos who are super vain, diva chicks, don't like it.
	Bring me peace, doesn't quarrel, doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't go to bars or clubs.
	Low body count, no current or past promiscuity.
	I need her undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	The earlier the better.
	Has a praise kink.
	A girl who helps me in my mission.
	A girl who's attentive.
	A girl who scratches my back and massages my soldiers.
	That's about it.
	I'm not asking much.
	What do you do to deserve hating absence?
	They all swipe left on him, you guys.
	So what are you doing?
	And like in opposition to that, what do you mean?
	Like the question that I asked you, like, what are you doing to deserve a bow and that long list of things?
	All that other.
	Okay, so there's reciprocity, for example.
	I don't party.
	I don't drink.
	I don't do drugs.
	I don't go to bars and clubs.
	I'm not doing any of that shit.
	So there's reciprocity there.
	I like to think, for the most part, I have my head on fairly straight.
	I'm fairly successful, I'd say.
	And.
	Yeah.
	But like during the, like, let's say you come home one day, like, what do you think?
	I take the lead.
	I take the lead.
	I'm going to be taking, I'm going to be taking care of things when it comes to, you know, financially.
	Okay.
	I don't think I would bow.
	Right.
	You know what's fucking crazy, though?
	She's got three to five friends with benefits.
	We got girls here at this table that will not bow to a guy.
	They won't do a bow.
	So what's the, what's what the stop.
	Stop.
	Let me finish.
	You got girls here at this table.
	For example, her, who's dating three to five guys.
	They won't bow to a dude.
	But they'll let a guy come on their face.
	Okay.
	Who said that?
	No, no, no.
	There's a lot of girls here at this table who will let a dude come on your face, but you won't bow for him.
	Huh?
	When was that part of the conversation?
	I'm just making some assumptions here.
	I'm making some assumptions.
	What is their bow, though?
	Well, what is what is the bow?
	That's respecting to me.
	It's respect.
	I like the interesting thing.
	It's not a kink.
	I just want the respect.
	I'm not paying for everything.
	I want the respect.
	Financially, you're paying for everything, so you need to have a bow.
	How do you treat her feelings submit to you?
	How do you make her feel?
	I mean, she can bow before I even pay for shit, but you get pleasure from a woman submitting.
	I'm fine with 50-50, too.
	You get pleasure from feeling like you're more dominant.
	It's respect.
	It's respect.
	It's environmental.
	Bro, these girls get so triggered.
	No, no, no, women control.
	If a woman comes and greet you with a kiss, she made you dinner, da-da-da.
	That's respectful.
	I prefer to bow.
	I need the bow.
	I have to have the bow.
	I'm sorry.
	You're not going to convince me.
	You're not going to convince me.
	You're the one over here offering curtsies and shit.
	Just give me a bow.
	I don't need some like pull up your skirt curtsy shit.
	Give me the bow.
	Okay, but there should be like a reason, though.
	Bro, y'all, y'all girls will have laundry lists of things you need in the middle of the day.
	Well, you have to treat her like a princess and a queen, and then that's when she will bow, you know?
	She'll do anything for you if she loves you.
	But I'm just saying you have to treat her like a princess, like a queen.
	I was going to say, yeah, how are you treating her?
	Because I think we're kind of neglecting the like, how does the girl feel emotionally?
	Like, I feel like a girl.
	Treat her great.
	Okay, that's why you're amazing.
	I let her make food for me.
	I let her.
	Yeah, I let her.
	That's her.
	I let her scratch my back.
	I let her massage my shoulders.
	I'm a nice, generous guy.
	I gift her.
	I'm gifting her.
	Why do you not think you're part of the BDSM community?
	That's what I'm trying to figure out.
	Like, what is happening right now?
	So you are.
	Oh, did I say I'm not?
	Oh, you are.
	Did I say I'm not?
	You were trying to, you were trying to get away from me.
	Did I say I'm not?
	Are you with everybody else?
	But you said they're mentally ill.
	You were saying they're mentally ill.
	No, no, no, no.
	There's a difference between being slightly dominant in a relationship.
	Slightly dominant, though.
	That's a slightly dominant.
	You literally want the, like, from here on.
	To bow.
	Literally bow.
	Yeah.
	Literally bow when you come home and run around and scramble your mouth.
	That's mild.
	This chick over here is talking about Shibari, okay?
	That's some dom shit.
	Shabari is an art form.
	It's an art form.
	That's rope play.
	That's an art form.
	She's a rope bunny.
	She's not getting sang.
	She's an art form.
	It's literally just an artist.
	Literally, BDSMTest.org, she's a rope bunny.
	She wants Shabari.
	Yeah, that's great.
	She wants to be tied up.
	Yes, she's a rope bunny.
	Okay.
	And what's the point?
	So, do you get my vibe?
	We all agree about being here.
	But if it is over here.
	So she asked a really great question about what makes a girl like got some cash.
	What makes a guy worth submitting to?
	That kind of thing.
	Thank you, Mom.
	So, anyway, so in the Bible, obviously, it talks about submitting to somebody, that kind of thing.
	A lot of feminists get really hung up on that.
	Like, oh, you're not going to be a slave.
	I'm not under you, blah, blah, blah.
	So, one, when it's talking about, like, I'm going to be the head of the family, if like you're a man, people are like, oh, well, you just want to be in command.
	You just want people to, you know, be your slave.
	All this stuff.
	Being the head of the family is not necessarily a fun privilege because every single thing falls on you.
	It's tough.
	Like, whether it comes to providing for your family, whether it comes to like if your children are doing poorly in school, if your children are getting into drugs, if your daughters are getting into like sex with like a bunch of random dudes or all this stuff, that all falls on you.
	That is not under your wife's role as a mom to do.
	Her role as a mom to do is to create a loving and nurturing environment and a home of peace that you want to come home to.
	When it comes to bowing and everything, one of my favorite things, this has to do with a mom instead of a thing.
	So Solomon, one of my favorite guys in the Bible, he's awesome.
	So David with Bathsheba, the girl that was undressing on the roof, they had a kid.
	It was Solomon.
	Anyways, when he was king, when his mom entered the room, he literally got up out of his chest.
	Okay, but for his mom.
	I know, but this is, it's very, very similar.
	The way you treat your mom and the way you treat your wife are very similar things in my opinion.
	Obviously, without the sexual preference on that.
	Yeah, but then anyway, so like you, like he walked up to her, like like inclined his head to her and said, bring out a throne like equal to mine so that she may sit by my side.
	And then she said on his right side, right, right at his hand.
	I think that that's like a beautiful picture of like how a relationship should be.
	Like your wife is like your equal.
	Like when me and my wife walk into a room, that's like obviously this.
	I don't want your wife to be able to do it.
	I don't want to be a tyrant.
	I don't want to be any of these things.
	But like if we live down, if we lived in like olden times, like when me and my wife walked into a room, that's when everybody would bow.
	Like my wife's not sitting there bowing to me in front of a bunch of people.
	But I think the thing that makes a guy like worth submitting to is like one, he's a godly leader of your home.
	Two, he is like, he will literally lay his life down.
	But preferably, he wouldn't lay his life down.
	He'll make the other guy lay his life down.
	Also, the stories you're telling, the stories you're telling, a sign of respect in those times were washing someone's feet.
	The head of the household, the wife, the woman, the children would wash the head of the household's feet.
	So all of those things are par and parcel for that time period.
	It's not the time period we live in right now.
	Although, if you were having a power dynamic and you said, I want you to have a foot bath ready when I get home, she's going to have that.
	She's going to be on her hands and knees ready and willing to do it.
	Exactly.
	That's a power dynamic.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	I don't need my wife to wash my feet.
	That's not like the thing anymore.
	But my wife would, I guarantee you, would be willing to do it because she's like, this guy is such a kind and loving man to my entire family.
	So I think a guy that's worth submitting to is a guy that submits first to God.
	A guy who is willing to be like, I will, like, because when it says, love your wife as Christ loved the church.
	When Christ, what Christ did for the church is he took all of their sin upon himself.
	Like when Eve ate the apple, God didn't come down and get mad at Eve.
	He got mad at the man.
	And even though he wasn't a part of it, it was all her thing.
	And so being the head of the household, submitting to a man is not like, oh, you're my slave.
	It's like, hey, thank you for taking all the freaking arrows from my family so that I can live in light and comfort and provide this amazing home for my family and everything.
	And like, if my wife's like a lawyer or like any of these things, if she like wants to do something on the side, that's fine.
	But like my wife will be a stay-at-home mom.
	She'll want to raise my kids and we'll take over the world together.
	Take over the country.
	You're describing content.
	That can go both ways, definitely.
	So yeah, you were describing roles of a household, which every household has roles like that and it can go both ways.
	Definitely.
	I disagree.
	I think men were specifically.
	Is anybody down to show me a bow?
	Like, do you want to do a bow really quick?
	Should we do a bow check?
	Girl, I think that's a custom.
	Oh, what?
	For $5.99.
	Right.
	For $5.99.
	For $30.99.
	I will give you a bow.
	So let me ask you this.
	I'm a passive.
	Specifically for you.
	What is a man that you're looking for?
	like some qualities, we'll cap it at like 90 seconds.
	Is that okay?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like 90 seconds.
	Like, what is a man you'd be willing to submit to?
	Emotionally stable, loyal, honest, mentally strong, physically, also takes care of his physical.
	Problem solver, planner.
	Those are big ones for me.
	I like this.
	I also think nowadays a lot of guys are kind of scared to put their foot down and like be masculine.
	Yeah.
	I feel like we've lost that.
	And I think, in my opinion, me personally, like a true perfect power dynamic would be like the man being like dominant and the leader and the woman following.
	And then I think a lot of guys want to say, like, oh, women aren't submissive enough, like this, that, and the third, but they're not leading with that role.
	That's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	I think both men and women are definitely lacking.
	There's a lot of women who don't want to be followers, let's say, because in order for you to want a follower, or excuse me, sorry, excuse me.
	In order for you to want the guy to lead, you need to be a follower.
	So there's a lot of women who like desperately want like a assertive, maybe even dominant leader, leader qualities, masculine guy, but they've been fed this bullshit from feminism essentially that says be a boss babe, da-da-da-da, like all this shit, don't submit to a man, whatever.
	Which is the least attractive thing in the world.
	So, but it's like funny because like women so desperately want, not all women, of course, but women want men to be leaders, but like you need to be a follower if you want a guy to lead.
	Because that's the dynamic.
	Yeah, I think deep down that's but then our society would label that as like a gold, not like necessarily a gold digger, but like they would label that as like, oh, like, you know what I mean?
	They would label the woman in like a but you're you're right that uh of course society is gonna attack you.
	Yeah, like you should be honored to be attacked by society.
	Society sucks.
	Like when people like I was like people like I want to homeschool my kids like oh well they won't fit into society.
	I'm like exactly I don't want my kids to fit into society.
	Your society is weak.
	Your society is ill.
	You guys are also pathetic.
	Like my children will run yours over like a train.
	Oh my gosh.
	But that's a very good point.
	I definitely think there's a lot of men that are slacking when it comes to that too.
	So it's not just, I think it's both men and women that aren't really holding up.
	Let me get a couple chats in here.
	We have one sec guys.
	Here we're going to do infinite singularity.
	Perhaps my previous comments was a tad intricate ergo.
	A bit of a stretch for easy digestion.
	Wouldn't want to strain anyone's mind analyzing it.
	Vis-a-vis, simplicity.
	I'll ensure my future remarks are more apropos.
	Well done.
	Well done.
	Way to go, singularity.
	Well done, singularity.
	Thank you.
	We have.
	Okay, we have Mike.
	Oh my god, it's all good.
	Michael McKesson, hey, thank you, man.
	Dude, big 200.
	Thank you, dude.
	Northern Wisconsin here.
	I need to find a woman who likes hunting.
	Oh, shit.
	Yo, AB Check, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships, man.
	You're a fucking legend.
	You can.
	Northern Wisconsin here.
	I need to find a woman who likes hunting deer in 40 below zero weather.
	Where's that woman at?
	Let me do you a solid here double M. Would any girl like to date a man who wants to hunt in 40 below?
	Hello.
	You know what's crazy is I have the most amazing man I have.
	Personally, I wouldn't.
	Rocky's so like.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You guys all in favor of.
	He's going to DM you guys.
	The DMs are in the description, so.
	I'll pass.
	You'll pass.
	You're not willing to add to the three to five friends with Benjamin.
	Not if he's going to be hunting and I'm sorry, Michael.
	You get to have some fun.
	Are you against hunting or whatever?
	Is that?
	Not that I'm against hunting.
	I just don't want to hunt out in the cold.
	Yeah, like a degree.
	That just does not sound fun.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	Thank you, guys.
	Let's see.
	We have a village.
	Senator, don't do others what you wouldn't want done to you.
	If your girlfriend left you for another man, it wouldn't feel too good.
	That woman is also a red flag.
	She can do the same to you in a relationship.
	Do you want to respond to?
	He's not a senator.
	No, I'm not old enough to be a senator.
	He's a Congressman.
	I'm not old enough to be a senator yet.
	It's annoying.
	Also, Senator's so hard.
	But no, that's a really good point.
	That's something you have to be really, really careful of.
	Like I said, that was an extreme scenario.
	That is not the rule.
	That would be the exception to it.
	We have just being honest, Madison, I do apologize.
	I respect your opinion, admire your ability to express them.
	I've had several friends leave this earth because of an outside force.
	As adults, we should show self-control.
	Totally agree, man.
	That makes a lot of sense.
	It's, you know, like, I respect people to make their own decisions, but you know, it's just life's hard, man.
	Like, as the great Cannis Owen said, you know, life's hard to get a helmet.
	If you're struggling, anybody that's listening to this stream who's struggling with mental health or you're considering just opting the easy way out, sometimes you just have to sit down, make a T-graph of pros and cons to living, and then make a decision if you decide to continue living.
	Like, hey, man, I'm going to leave whatever is behind me, and I'm going to live in spite of my weaknesses and my downfalls.
	I mean, that's something that I had to do.
	Like, I struggle with that a lot.
	But also, don't be afraid.
	Like, masculinity is not being in and all alone.
	Like, you have to have your brothers around you.
	Fraternity is important.
	You're not going to be a man because you're going through or struggling or you, you know, like every man.
	And I feel like it makes you more manly if you're able to express that.
	Yeah, like, I don't trust people who haven't been through a hard thing.
	Because, like, boiling water, like, it'll turn an egg hard and it'll turn a potato soft.
	And, like, you know, I don't understand.
	I'm not going to be soft or not a man.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	So we have a couple, quite a few.
	I need to still get through all my notes from all you guys who've got quite a bit to go.
	We have some TikTok videos from you.
	Yeah, from you.
	If I could have you scoot into the table a little bit, Nick, if you can.
	Can we not?
	Can we not?
	Please.
	And I want you to surpass.
	Please.
	Wait.
	So this is.
	Nick, make sure the audio is on.
	You look really cute.
	You look really cute.
	So we're going to play this.
	It's totally unrelated to dating.
	Oh, my gosh.
	That was like my most liked, I think.
	Go ahead.
	Most viewed.
	I don't know.
	Adda.
	I swear I've seen it.
	Oh, God.
	I love it.
	Next one.
	Next one.
	Now, you've done this for four, at least four.
	Nick, next one.
	We got the next one.
	I don't know the next one!
	Can you lower the volume, Nick?
	Next one.
	Next one.
	I was like wanting more, so I was giving them more.
	Yeah, okay.
	You have to give them a little bit more.
	So what is this?
	What is this?
	Is this TikTok?
	Yes.
	I don't know why, but for some reason.
	Next one.
	Or if you have to fix it, you have to fix it.
	I can't explain.
	Okay, last one.
	Last one.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry, Chad.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Oh, louder, I guess.
	Oh, the.
	The audio is cute.
	That is cute.
	Max the audio, Jack.
	Max the audio.
	Max the, um, so actually Nick, can you, so here's what we're going to do.
	We're going to have you do it.
	We're going to play the audio.
	We need you to do it right here in front of all of us.
	Because I feel like.
	I don't even remember how to do it properly anymore because it was like two years ago.
	I can't.
	I feel like it's got to be super embarrassing to do that in front of people.
	It is.
	That's the type of shit you have to do in your room alone.
	Exactly.
	There's no one even in the house.
	You can't even have people in the house.
	I'm an introverted girl.
	Are you down to do it?
	No, I cannot.
	Oh, come on.
	I cannot.
	I cannot.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't even think I can.
	Does any girl here want to try it?
	She has to teach us.
	I think she would do it the best, though.
	Ooh?
	Yeah, I think you would do it the best.
	Yeah.
	Wait, dude.
	The what?
	Ooh.
	Wait, what's the other one?
	Ooh.
	Ooh.
	No, the other.
	Wait, the what?
	What is again?
	Adda, ah, okay.
	Oh, cool, I guess.
	Okay.
	That was adorable.
	Yes.
	That was in a pass.
	Wait, is the audio, Nick, all the way?
	Sorry, I thought we were playing this sound again.
	Oh, no, it's good.
	Okay, good times.
	Let me see.
	Okay, we're all caught up on chat.
	So, oh, we have Stiffler here.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks.
	Looks on a scale of one to ten.
	We'll go around the table, starting with Cindy.
	Me, I'm a 10.
	Okay.
	Do we start by 10?
	Let's just say 10.
	keep it simple i'd give myself i'd give myself a good nine 9?
	Okay.
	Just looks.
	Just looks.
	8.
	Eight.
	Okay.
	I'm going to say 8.
	A 7.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm going to go with 8.
	Okay.
	I'm going to go with 8 too.
	I'm going to say 10.
	Per, period.
	Okay.
	Madison, what about you?
	Gosh, you know what?
	The thumbnail you're using back there, Nick, like that thumbnail you're using back there, I'd say I was like a nine and a half.
	Like right now, I'd say I'm about an eight.
	Okay.
	So, you know, we got some work to do, but that's what makes life so fun.
	You're beautiful.
	Thank you.
	I really appreciate that.
	You're welcome.
	Everybody's a tin.
	Thank you.
	I give myself, I used to say six, but I'm a five because I've gained some weight.
	I've got a fucking dad bod right now.
	I need to lose it.
	I've gotten chubby.
	So I'm a five.
	The great part about being a guy is if you need to lose weight or anything, you can just ask your friends, like, text me once in a while and just say, hey, you're fat.
	And you'll be like, oh, but you can't do that.
	That doesn't work with women.
	But like for guys, brother to brother, it's like, it'll be like, yeah, I am.
	I got to go work.
	So 10, 10, 9, 8, 7, 8, 8, 10.
	What?
	Wait, so 10, 10, 9, 8, 7.
	No, I said 7.
	8.
	Did I?
	I said 8.
	She said 8.
	She said 7.
	Yeah.
	9, 8.
	Wait, hold on.
	8.
	Did I skip somebody?
	Yeah.
	9, 8, 8.
	Oh, okay.
	7.
	8, 8, 10.
	And you said everybody should be a 10, correct?
	Everyone should be a 10.
	Everyone should.
	Everyone is a 10?
	Everyone is a 10.
	Beautiful women.
	Everybody at this table is a 10.
	If you're not confident in yourself, that's you, but I feel like everybody's a 10.
	So should all women view themselves as 10s?
	Yes.
	Wait, hold on.
	Are all women 10s?
	Yes.
	I think my personality is a 10, but are all women tens?
	No, I think if a woman views it, like, let's say a woman has really low self-esteem and she views herself as a five, I don't think that woman's a 10.
	Wait.
	I'm a little confused by that, but okay.
	Wait, so, but do you guys think that all women are tens?
	All men are tens, too.
	Well, that's what I was going to ask.
	Are all men tens?
	Yeah, it's just, it's all mentality, really.
	Like, the bottom of this is that no one is ugly and it's all mentality.
	Well, I rate it's all mentality, but I don't agree that we're rating our looks.
	We're not rating about how we feel.
	No, I agree.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	You're not rating your confidence.
	It's about like.
	Y'all are tens in delusion.
	I can tell you that.
	You guys have significantly overrated almost every person here.
	I think everyone's like beautiful.
	Almost every person here has overrated themselves.
	All these girls are illusional.
	Can you rate us?
	I actually, I think.
	What did you say?
	You're seven?
	I think that's actually a fair rating.
	The rest of you, however, are delusional.
	I think we spotted you off the street girl and complimented you up and down.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm not a regular Brian.
	That's all based on preference.
	It's objective at the end of the day.
	No, it's not subjective.
	There's an objective.
	That's your opinion.
	No, I agree that there's an objective view of it.
	It's not my opinion.
	No, I agree.
	I can view her.
	You guys are tens in delusion.
	That's my opinion.
	You keep saying delusional.
	It is delusional.
	You're also sitting in human and delusional.
	But I've rated myself average.
	Can you see my view?
	But nobody's calling you delusional.
	Nobody's taking any of your opinion and calling you delusional.
	Because we agree with you as a three or a two.
	That's our opinion.
	Is that your opinion?
	Yes.
	Please go ahead, man.
	Okay, she thinks.
	My opinion is different than yours.
	Wait, so just for the chat.
	So she thinks I'm a three, and she's an eight.
	That's literally what you just said.
	We could view you.
	You could view you.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	But that means that that's our opinion.
	Fine.
	And if you want.
	Yeah, fine.
	If you think.
	But there's a little difference.
	First off, there's a difference of like thinking you're a five and you're actually a three versus like being a seven or a six and thinking you're a ten.
	Everyone's eyes.
	Like I view her as a ten.
	Right.
	You view her, you said you would agree with a seven, right?
	Yeah.
	Someone else could view her as a seven.
	Someone else could view her as an eight.
	Also, that rating is bullshit.
	Yeah, like she's a ten.
	Like what?
	There's more, there's more.
	Your perception of yourself does not determine how other people see you in the world.
	I think it does.
	That's why it's an opinion.
	What?
	Can you see someone?
	That's not even definition of sense.
	Thanks.
	Like, what?
	Can I say that?
	No, but it's literally, it is quite literally delusional.
	Like.
	Keep saying.
	Okay, but you think you're a 10.
	Yeah, I have to say that.
	I'm not going to rate you, but you're not a 10.
	It doesn't matter.
	Okay, that's your opinion.
	It doesn't matter.
	I didn't ask you.
	I didn't ask you.
	It's objectively true.
	You're not a 10.
	I'm not delusional.
	That's okay with a little.
	No, you're delusional.
	How am I delusional?
	How am I delusional?
	You think you're on par with the most beautiful women in the world.
	And you think your own opinion about you.
	I think I'm an average-looking guy.
	You think your own opinion about me.
	I think that's a fairly accurate self-assessment.
	I wasn't calling you delusional either.
	I'm feeding you back your own medicine because that's wild that you're calling these girls delusional.
	I'm not even taking offense to it.
	I'm just, they're not delusional for their own opinion.
	I took offense.
	That's all I'm saying.
	You took offense?
	Well, not on a shading shady shit, but it's just like I've had a guy tell me I'm a 10, and I've had a guy tell me I'm a five.
	Oh, yeah.
	You can't really speak.
	Did the guy who called you a 10, did he want to sleep with you?
	No.
	That was my boyfriend of multiple months.
	And we didn't.
	Of course, your boyfriend is going to like.
	So many guys are going to be aware of her.
	Of course, your boyfriend is going to view her five or a ten or a seven.
	But I just feel like you're speaking for everybody.
	You can't speak for every population.
	I can speak for most men.
	In my opinion, I think there are some things like if you look at the over, like, let's say 80% of guys that they will find, you know, generally attractive in people.
	It's like, okay, if you like, body fat percentage is like under eight, like you're probably pretty dang attractive.
	If your like height is around this, you know, some things and general generalities.
	But like you said, like tall girls.
	Exactly.
	I think that like it's harder to do an objective like rating because it comes down to like it's it's it's more like art.
	It's like I just feel like you shouldn't say anyone's delusional and rating themselves.
	Yeah, no, but it is delusional.
	It is delusional.
	Delusion is a salulu.
	Yeah.
	I think that it is important to be let me define delusional.
	So, delusional, characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.
	So, that's one having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions based on or having faulty judgment mistaken.
	So, you don't dictate when it when it comes to the picture next to that definition.
	Yeah, but how can you say you're delusional for thinking you're beautiful?
	So, if I think I'm pretty, I'm delusional.
	I have a mental issue.
	Okay, let me ask you guys a question.
	Let me ask you guys literally.
	If you're like objectively unattractive or ugly, I'm not saying that anyone here at the table is, but let's say you're objectively like, Have you ever seen an ugly person?
	No, have any be honest?
	Have you guys ever seen an ugly person?
	Yes, okay, no.
	And if that person said, I am a 10 out of 10 in physical appearance, and that's that increases their rating automatically, automatically increases their rating.
	Congrats that confidence.
	Cool, you're attracted to people who are delusional.
	I agree with you with that, but we're all pretty girls.
	Like, you can't like, okay, when there's like you're attract, you guys are attractive, but like, I think you guys are mostly average-looking.
	Like, as far as the fact that you're your opinion, yes, I'm average, I'm an average-looking guy.
	But I also feel like average-looking people.
	I do think that even girls are not.
	Y'all are average.
	I think so.
	Okay, I think that girls, when they do rate themselves too, I think it's easier for them to just accept themselves as being tens because it's like, oh, that's self-love.
	Instead of just being real with yourself and being like, Hey, I can accept that there's probably better-looking women than me.
	That's the confidence thing.
	That would be the confident thing.
	And I feel that then you can kind of date within what is kind of more for you.
	But saying you're a 10 doesn't mean you're saying you're more beautiful than everyone.
	Like, there's no more than one, but I'm not talking about it.
	Hold on.
	When you say you're a 10, you're just saying you're as beautiful as the most beautiful women in the world.
	And that's wheatless women in the world.
	I go back to my same point.
	It's about 10 out of 10 means you are, there's nobody more beautiful than you.
	That's not true at all.
	That's not true.
	Do you know what 10 out of 10 means?
	Because it's a rating still.
	10 is the best.
	It's not a bullshit scale.
	It is.
	It's not a bullshit scale.
	We all were talking about our year, and nobody, not very many people brought up even looks at all.
	So that's not.
	I mean, you can cap about not caring about looks, but you don't care about the look.
	It wasn't top of the lace, it was a top layer, but fine.
	That's fine.
	Maybe you guys don't care about men's physical attractiveness, which I think is fucking cap and bullshit, but you don't get to dictate your standing in the dating market.
	We're all getting our opinion.
	Men are not.
	No, we're not delusional.
	Yeah, we're just telling you our opinion.
	We're the girl for our opinion.
	As the men who date you, the men get to dictate for our opinion.
	Yo.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	You don't need to be fucking doing some bullshit fucking song and dance when I'm talking.
	We explicitly gave you instructions before the show to not be talking when somebody else is talking.
	Okay.
	So please yield to me.
	If I'm talking, don't interrupt.
	Let me finish.
	No, no, no.
	See?
	You don't need to laugh when I tell you that.
	You need to be like, oops, my bad.
	Sorry.
	Oh, it's funny.
	I'm laughing.
	It's funny.
	Stop talking.
	What's funny?
	What's funny?
	You're arguing against delusion.
	It's funny to me.
	No, no, no, no, but now I'm asking you to not be interrupting and talking while other people are talking.
	That's not funny.
	Let's just go ahead and finish like for you finish up.
	I don't think most you guys are.
	I'm not saying y'all are like tens out of tens, but no one here's ugly.
	Yeah, we get lost.
	I'm not saying anything.
	Just move on.
	Y'all are attractive women.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	But you're not tense.
	We're telling you our opinion, though.
	Like, why do you have to always move on?
	I'll tell you why it's important.
	Because all of you are stuck, most of you, are stuck in situationships.
	You're getting strung along by Chad, who's never going to give you commitment.
	He's just going to fuck you.
	And then you're fucking curving guys who are actually on your level.
	You're curving the dudes who are on your level, but you think you're above them because you're delusional and you think you're more attractive than you actually are.
	This is the biggest pull-up.
	This is the biggest problem in the dating marketplace.
	Is women are so gassed up.
	Huh?
	No, how do you know that?
	What's up?
	You can leave.
	Get out.
	Just leave.
	Bro, get out.
	Calm down.
	If I'm in, no, no, no.
	If I'm in the middle of talking, I don't need your fucking sex.
	Everyone was just interrupting you like a second ago.
	What's your point?
	Like, why are you targeting her?
	Because she's complaining, oh, we've been here for five hours, blah, What?
	No, she's saying we've been here for a long time arguing.
	I'm going to let it slide, but I've got donated 200.
	Stop fucking interrupting.
	I am sorry, but none of you will be on the cover of Victoria's secret spring collection anytime soon or ever.
	You are not tense.
	Life is very hard when you cannot be honest with yourself.
	Frank Castle.
	He's not wrong.
	He's not wrong about being honest with you.
	The point I was trying to make before you so rudely interrupted and were talking.
	Why you?
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's great.
	Huh?
	Moving on.
	I need some.
	Yo, what you have is, and this is evidenced by what's going on on dating apps, is women are like swiping on only like the top 10% of dudes.
	And these women are, why are, what's up with all the fuckboys?
	And why can't I get commitment?
	Because you're curving the dudes who are actually on your level because you think you're up here when you're not.
	If you think you're hot shit, but you're not, you're going to be chasing after these really attractive dudes who will never give you commitment.
	They'll keep you around for easy sex.
	And you're curving the dudes, you're friends-owning the dudes who actually would be good boyfriends, who are on your level, who are as attractive as you are.
	That's what's happening in the dating marketplace.
	Can I actually pick back off of what you said?
	But how do you know that that's the case?
	Bro, here's the thing.
	Let me ask you guys a question.
	Do you guys want an average guy?
	Here's the issue, right?
	Average women don't want average guys because they think that they're not average.
	They think that they're above average.
	But how's that going to translate in the dating marketplace?
	You have average women that are going to be chasing after either exceptional or above average men.
	They're going to curve men who are average, who are actually on their level.
	That's why you get caught up with fuckboys and in situationships and a guy never committing to you or a guy who's cheating on you because you're shooting out of your league.
	So if you think you're a 10, surely you must deserve a 10.
	You're going to chase after Chad and you're never going to give the, you're going to spend your 20s fucking a bunch of dudes.
	You're never going to like actually get into a proper monogamous relationship.
	You'd rather have the divided attention of a hyper attractive guy than actually have commitment from like an average dude because you think you're above average.
	That's the problem in the dating marketplace.
	And that's why this is a humble check.
	Go ahead.
	I think that also the reason why girls have this like perception that they're more attractive than they actually are is because guys, even the most attractive guys will give attention to average girls.
	That's a good point.
	And then I think girls start thinking, oh, maybe I am actually hotter.
	But it's true when they say they're not going to commit to you though.
	Guys are just want that.
	And if they're going to get it from a girl that's going to give it to them, well then sure, they're going to take it.
	I think a lot of women nowadays confuse sex with like true commitment.
	Yeah.
	Especially with like social media now.
	I think it's a lot different.
	I agree with that.
	Word.
	Well, that's the thing is like, for okay, here's the difference, right?
	This is where women will get into trouble.
	So, a guy can be, for a guy to sleep with a girl, he'll sleep with a girl that he would never be in a relationship with just based purely on her looks.
	But he'll sleep with her.
	He might keep her around, friends with benefits, et cetera.
	She'll never get commitment just based purely on her physical attractiveness.
	Typically, I would say for most women, in order for most women to sleep with a guy, be it casually, well, for casual sex, he needs to be at least physically attractive enough to be in a relationship with.
	Yeah, there's a really cool.
	It's like I was just trying to think of it.
	I couldn't bring it to the top of my head.
	Jordan Peterson talks about it a lot.
	Basically, men will date even and down, whereas women will date even and up.
	It's just like it's been that way for a very long time.
	But it's gotten such to an extreme point because there's this massive movement for self-love, body positivity, all these things, where girls think that sometimes they're significantly more attractive than they are.
	But, you know, a lot of it comes down to, I think it's really easy to find a pretty girl.
	It's really easy to find a smart girl.
	It's really easy to find a girl that brings you peace and is fun to be around.
	It's super difficult to find one that combines all three of those things.
	And so, you know, if there is a guy who is looking for, you know, someone who hits like 9 and 10 and 10 on those three categories, he's going to be a pretty freaking studly dude if he thinks he's going to be able to acquire that.
	Whereas girls, I think sometimes when they're like, they're starting to get into like their later years, like, why have I not been able to marry a guy?
	And it's like, oh, because this guy didn't view me as like an option for him.
	And so I think that's kind of what he's trying to get at.
	But, you know, it's just feminism has the third wave feminism, fourth wave feminism are destroying our entire culture.
	It is empowering women to a point where they think that they shouldn't have, they are the exact same as men and that they should, they don't want to be equal to men.
	They want to be overpowered to men.
	They want men to be subservient to them.
	And that's just not how culture was built.
	And again, I think all of you guys nodded in the very beginning.
	We were talking about how on every single metric, life is getting worse.
	No matter if you're far left, far right, life in the West is getting worse.
	It's getting more dangerous.
	It is getting harder to live.
	It's getting harder to make a living.
	It's getting significantly harder for people our age to be able to buy a house, to start a family, and to do all these things.
	And I think the root cause of that, one, we can go into the root cause of why this happened, which is the fall of the USSR and then those guys taking over our higher education institutions.
	But what their main attack vector was is by creating this feminist ideology that women should be overpowered to men and that they are equal to men.
	And that just leaves us vain, broken, and empty households and very, very sad in the long run.
	And that's why we are having the fewest amount of people in our age group, which I think we're all pretty much in the same generation, in our age group getting married and having children.
	And if our birth rate does not continue, it does not abruptly start rising, the West is going to fall.
	We're going to fall to the Far East.
	It's just, it's not even a question.
	Agreed.
	I agree too.
	I think that I get where you guys are coming at.
	Like, my last relationship, I didn't date like a chad.
	I did date someone who was like, just, you know, straight off the bat, like, this guy is very attractive.
	He definitely also has a lot of other girls that are on his roster trying to date him and stuff.
	And so I went to that route where I got to know him.
	He took me on, like, on dates.
	We vibed.
	Like, we had a lot of things in common.
	And so that's kind of what I'm looking for in a guy that I'm going to marry, have my kids with.
	So I'm not looking for someone that's like a player, you know.
	And that's just not the guy that I want to marry.
	I think what you said about us, like, you know, like birth rates are going down and where like our society is headed.
	I think a big part of like that route is family and love and creating those ideals within your family to promote like a stronger society.
	And we are losing that.
	Absolutely.
	Because our federal government is completely out of control.
	If you pick any three letters in the alphabet and put them together, it's the acronym for some massive organization that has way too much power over your life.
	It's absurd.
	It's the reason why you're getting a lot of very harmful birth control pills pushed on young girls.
	Like, oh, you have acne?
	Well, here, take this hormone-affecting thing that's going to destroy your body and make you attracted to someone that you're genetically not naturally attracted to.
	And the main reason, I apologize.
	So our federal government is going significantly too powerful.
	On that point, who here is on birth control?
	I'm just curious.
	Anybody on birth control?
	Just show of hands.
	Anybody?
	Be alert?
	I'm about to get on it.
	IUD?
	I'm about to get off.
	Because I have the IUD, but.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good choice.
	Yeah, I mean, just really quick on the 10th thing, and then we're going to move on.
	I would argue when it comes to looks, right?
	Your league, looks-wise, is the men who will marry you and commit to you long-term.
	Our league is the women that we can sleep with.
	I think men and women are very different because men will sleep with an ugly girl just for pussy.
	If a girl's just going out and wants dick, she's going to like find the hottest possible guy that she can for that.
	So it's totally different.
	Like, guys, if we just want some pussy, we're going to be like, okay, care like a little bit less about looks.
	Whereas for a chick, like, if you just want some dick, you want the hottest dude possible.
	But I feel like when I have sex with a guy, like, I can't help but care.
	Like, we as women are more emotional.
	Sure.
	Right.
	So I can't help but care.
	So, like, I'm just not that type of woman, but, oh, I'm just saying that.
	I'm not saying all, like, some women don't like casual sex, but if you do search out casual sex, you're probably going to be like, I want the hottest guy possible.
	Like, if it's a one-night stand, I want to get with the hottest guy possible.
	For a one-night stand, you're not going to be like, I want a funny guy.
	No, you want the funny guy for like a relationship, whatever.
	But, like, for a one-night stand, you're going to go fuck the funny guy?
	No, you're probably going to like prefer the like most physically attractive dude.
	Sure, I mean, if he can get you going, I guess, but it's pretty different.
	So it's pretty different.
	So here, I'm going to finally get into my cream.
	What's up?
	I said, Bobby Lee.
	I did, like, multiple videos with Bobby Lee.
	Bobby Lee?
	Did you fuck him?
	I love Bobby.
	Who's Bobby Lee?
	Who?
	The one that has the podcast?
	So I know the girl you're talking about, but I also, she actually did a video with Bobby, the Asian comedian.
	Wait, why did you bring up Bobby Lee?
	Yeah, what?
	Did you date him or something?
	No, no, no.
	He's just a comedian.
	I made a lot of TikTok and Instagram videos that went viral of me.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah, Bobby Lee is great.
	That's cool.
	Okay.
	I thought you were trying to make the point that you like funny guys, so you hooked up with Bobby Lee.
	Is that no?
	I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
	Exactly.
	She didn't hook up with, you didn't hook up with him, despite him being exceptionally funny.
	So obviously physical attractiveness is important.
	And I actually argue women care far more about looks than men do.
	I argue against.
	Well, for example, from a nightstand perspective, I agree with you.
	Even well, here's my example.
	Like, here's my argument for this.
	So, of the things that are in women's control and in men's, or excuse me, that are out of women's control and out of men's control when it comes to physical appearance, women care about far more metrics that are totally out of men's control.
	Like, they have no control over it.
	For example, height.
	Men can't control their height.
	A lot of women care about height.
	If the guy's balding, a lot of women would prefer to date a guy with a full head of hair, especially certainly if they're younger, but some guys start balding in their early 20s.
	Shit, even in their teens.
	Penis size, out of a man's control.
	A lot of women care about that.
	So, I mean, there's a lot of things that women care about when it comes to looks that are totally out of dudes' control.
	Whereas for men.
	You could actually get surgery now, though, to increase your height.
	I agree with that.
	People will be getting surgery to increase their height.
	I don't think men should be doing that shit though.
	Regardless, though, I still think men care more about appearance.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, you're right.
	Like, no, you can't control your height.
	If you're bald and you're balding, like, you can't do anything about it.
	But I would say women care more about things that aren't physical.
	And I think guys do.
	I'm five foot.
	Do you have a bare minimum height?
	No.
	You'll date a guy who's 5'1?
	My last boyfriend was, I think, like on the shorter side.
	Me too.
	I didn't care.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	But I would argue most women prefer a guy who's like 5'10.
	My only preference is that he's taller than me, but that's not really hard for me because I'm short.
	Sure, but you wouldn't date a guy who's shorter than you, it sounds like.
	Granted, most men are probably taller than you.
	But I don't have a set height.
	Okay.
	I would argue, though, most women prefer taller guys.
	In fact, they very much typically like.
	I think guys are more shorter girls.
	I don't think the difference is, though, between men and women is height typically is never going to be a deal breaker for a guy.
	I think I'm not going to be a good person.
	They might have a preference.
	They might have a preference.
	I think a lot of guys have that preference, and I think a lot of guys hate that idea of a woman being taller than them.
	I've seen that.
	And I've also seen a lot on social media, like tall girls coming out talking about that.
	I mean, I would argue that men not wanting to date a taller woman, that's probably more so because they know that taller women don't want to date shorter guys.
	Well, I guess you could say it goes.
	So they've had experiences.
	I think it even, for some magical reason, if the girl, like I'm 6'1, mind you.
	So like I'll encounter a girl who's 6'2 ⁇ , 6'3.
	Shit, even a girl who's 6', she's like, Brian, I'd rather a guy who's 6'3, 6'4, 6'5.
	Like, so I think it, granted, there are probably guys out there that are probably insecure about their height, and that can manifest itself negatively in a relationship.
	But I would argue typically that's gonna fall on the woman.
	The woman's gonna have an issue with it.
	Therefore, it's gonna be it's just gonna be a problem on her end.
	So, okay.
	Yeah, the hardest part for me, if I'm dating a girl over six foot, because I used to be six's three, loves a swing dance, still enjoy swing dance in a wheelchair, but if I go for a dip and she's like over six, it's really hard for me to get my hand all the way on her head.
	That's my biggest issue there.
	But yeah, I think that one thing, like when we're talking about if girls like guys based on their looks or not, I think that like in the sexual marketplace, and I'm talking, when I say that, I'm talking about the dating marketplace and everything.
	I think that it really comes down to a lot of women are judged by basically like how far they fall off the top of the mountain, which basically is saying that like, you know, and this kind of what we were talking about, like guys prefer girls that are like, you know, younger and have been with like less guys for whatever reason.
	I think it's just kind of genetically designed in us.
	Like we can rip on why that is, but you know, I think there's some valid reasons for it.
	And this is why girls who are like normally like, you know, in their young 20s or mid-20s are way more attractive than women who are like in their 40s.
	Whereas guys, women will date older guys all the time.
	I mean, it happens all the time.
	Guys are judged by how much they climb the mountain.
	Like when a guy is 19 years old, he is the least attractive to the majority of women.
	But if a guy is like at 33 years old, he has built like a business empire.
	He is solidly built physically.
	He has got a solid head on his shoulders.
	He had to build those things.
	Whereas a woman's normally born with the attributes that make her the greatest, aside from personality, that has to be developed and all those things.
	And so, yeah, I think guys are judged when girls are thinking about who they want to marry by how far they climb up that mountain.
	And they get so caught up when they're in their young 20s and they're getting gassed up by everybody just being chasing after, like, I want the hottest guy in the entire world.
	But then when it comes time to get married, they're like, yeah, that guy was like a jock in high school or they played college football, but now, you know, he's just, you know, does like something like, you know, not a, he hasn't built himself now.
	He's got like a drug addiction and a porn addiction.
	Those aren't the people you want to marry.
	You want the guy who has a solid faith built and wants to create a family and provide and protect them.
	That's and so, yeah, I.
	Those are hard to find, though.
	It is.
	I think girls are really interested in those kind of qualities more so than what they're physically attracted to.
	And that's where they get so fucked up when they're super young.
	Absolutely.
	They are just chasing the hottest guy they can find for clout or for whatever because they want to look it on an Instagram picture, but it's just not going to pay off in the long run.
	Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of girls that are seeking long-term commitment aren't, also aren't just chasing after looks.
	Yeah.
	You know, I think there's bigger.
	And I think people are aware of that.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	I also feel like guys that are typically physically more attractive, like when you look at their Instagram, you're like, yeah, this guy's, they can also be low-key gay at the same time.
	Like, they really know much about.
	You know what I mean?
	Loki the little kid.
	Yeah, like Loki a little too obsessed with himself.
	And then you find out that.
	Like, I honestly prefer a guy that isn't.
	I don't know why.
	I kind of like a guy who's like a little bit ugly.
	Yeah.
	Loki, just a little bit.
	Warp.
	Just a little bit.
	Yeah.
	And I was at a restaurant the other day and I thought this server was like really hot and he was gay.
	So he's got three peas in the chat for her.
	It's the water, man.
	They're turning the frogs.
	They be having their eyes.
	That's now starting to make the humans gay.
	The water is turning the frogs gay and now it's turning us gay.
	Oh, shit.
	It's terrifying.
	There you have.
	Here, this is so unrelated, but it came up in the previous podcast, so I want to touch on it.
	Going around the table, starting with Cindy.
	Generally speaking, are men stronger than women physically?
	I hate this question.
	Men are stronger physically.
	No opinion on that.
	But wait, hold on.
	Yeah.
	I'm pleading the fifth on that one.
	You don't have an opinion.
	Hold on.
	You don't have an opinion on that?
	No.
	What do you mean?
	I don't have an opinion.
	How do you have an opinion?
	What do you think?
	I don't have an opinion.
	You don't want to answer the question?
	I don't have an opinion.
	Is that okay?
	What do you mean?
	Well, is it that you don't want to share your opinion?
	Oh, she just does not.
	What do you mean, the statistics?
	Generally speaking, are men physically stronger than women?
	No opinion.
	You don't have an opinion?
	No.
	Let me ask you a question then.
	Do you think men and women are of equal strength, generally speaking?
	No opinion.
	Are you just being bad faith intentionally?
	No.
	I think she just.
	Don't like my answer, that's all.
	Well, you haven't given me an answer, so there's not really room for me to like or dislike your answer.
	Is the reason you're wanting to plead the fifth because you're afraid of kind of the cultural backlash of like, oh, well, people think that everybody can be just as strong as everybody else?
	It's not true.
	I was just curious.
	No.
	Okay.
	What's your reason for?
	What's your reason for pleading the fifth?
	No opinion.
	No opinion.
	Are you just going to answer that to every question?
	No opinion.
	No, I don't have an opinion on this.
	Thank you.
	Next.
	What?
	It's just this topic.
	She just doesn't really have an opinion on this topic.
	I think you do have an opinion.
	You just don't want to share it.
	Oh, my God.
	There's a difference.
	Not everything is that deep, though.
	I don't think, you know, how about you let her speak for herself?
	Oh, I was going to say no opinion.
	Thank you.
	I don't have an opinion on the topic.
	I mean, I don't think that's a good faith answer, though.
	I think you do have an opinion.
	You just don't want to share it.
	Okay, my opinion is debatable, and it depends, and that's my only opinion.
	No, but we're removing it depends from the conversation because the question is, generally speaking, are men physically stronger than women?
	Yeah, I have no opinion on that.
	Thank you.
	But you just said it depends.
	Yeah.
	On what?
	On everybody else's opinion.
	It depends on everybody else's opinion.
	I mean, you're just kind of being bad faith here.
	So I feel like if I ask you other questions, you're just going to.
	Here.
	Okay, I'll ask.
	I will come back to the strength thing, though.
	Do you think, and I'll start with you, why not?
	Do you think that you can be sexist against men?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you think you can be racist against white people?
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm surprised that you.
	I literally did.
	I'm a little surprised that you engaged on that, but not the strength conversation.
	Anybody can be racist at any time.
	So that's, again, it's more, there's no black and white there.
	Yeah.
	You had a visceral reaction to that.
	I'm surprised that the strength one was the okay.
	We'll come back to the strength one really quickly.
	That would be a question on a dating podcast.
	It can be racist.
	I'll tell you why.
	I'll tell you why.
	I mean, I can tell you why, because, for example, with the sexist thing, your views on men can certainly influence how you perceive men, how you engage with men in romantic relationships.
	So, for example, if you hold certain positions when it comes to that question, that might certainly dictate how you treat men, how you view men, and that's incredibly important.
	And obviously, like your shared values, that sort of thing.
	So we can go around the table on that, though.
	Well, first, let's do the strength one.
	Do you think, generally speaking, are men stronger than women?
	Yeah.
	yes yes yes yes yes yes madison do you want to A million percent.
	Okay.
	Not influence.
	Fuck, going around the table on, can you be sexist towards men?
	Yes.
	She said yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Can you be racist against white people?
	Yes.
	No comment.
	So, but my whole thing on these is I think anytime there's an iss or an ism attached to anything, it just means that you are treating a certain person based on your previous engagements with people that match that category.
	So if you're like, oh, let's say that you're abused by almost like 80% of the men that you've been around your entire life.
	And then, like, you're going to have a pattern recognition where you're like, wait a minute, I feel in danger because a man just walked in the room, and 80% of the time I see a man, he's going to hit me.
	And so then that would be, that would then make you like, and it's not saying that it's wrong.
	I'm not saying that using statistics is wrong, but it would then make you like, oh, if I, any man I see, I'm going to judge based on other men.
	Sorry, dude.
	No, please go ahead.
	Can I give an example?
	I'd love to.
	Basically, let's say a white person goes to like the Middle East or China, right?
	And it's like a whole, like a race.
	The main race would be if you go to China, Chinese people, correct?
	And a white person goes there, and the Chinese people look at the white person and they're like, oh, da-da-da.
	Like, you know, those people are racially profiling that white person that's not of their race.
	Wouldn't that be being racist?
	I'm going to rip one real quick.
	No, it's like prejudice.
	Prejudice.
	Discriminatory is like a better word for it rather than racist.
	Because those people could not necessarily.
	I feel like we should go around the table and get everybody's answer on this before we go into this.
	So.
	Well, you.
	I just said no, no comment.
	I think that's a no.
	I'm assuming that's a no comment because I think that's a no.
	You don't want to what?
	Get into it?
	Yeah.
	You don't want the black square people to come after you.
	No, I'm just, I'm like, I love everybody.
	I don't really trip about that.
	Because you treat everyone based on the content of their character versus others.
	Yes, okay.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yes.
	Yes, you can.
	What he just said, I agree.
	So wait.
	Yes, you can be racist against white people?
	It depends.
	Oh.
	Like, I don't really know how to say it.
	It's just.
	Why does it have to just be white people?
	Why am I not?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, no, substitute me.
	Can you be racist?
	No, you can be racist against any race.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	Can you be racist against white people?
	The question is, because a lot of our intellectuals in the country.
	Yeah, a lot of the trick.
	A lot of tricks.
	It ain't a trick.
	I wouldn't.
	I know how to answer it for you.
	Go ahead.
	Put it in.
	So I know she doesn't, she's not a racist, okay?
	So.
	Stop the cat.
	Just kidding.
	Just kidding.
	It just depends on the person.
	So it's not just like, oh, I'm just racist towards white people.
	It's the person.
	So if you act like, you know, something.
	Yes, there's racists out there, sure.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But okay, let me ask you a question.
	Can you be racist against black people?
	Like, can anybody be racist against black people?
	Yes.
	Okay, so can you be racist against white people?
	Crickets.
	No comment.
	Again, being racist, being any ism, anything about that is whenever you're treating someone not based on the content of their personal character, but rather a generalization of that community.
	Oh, wow.
	Right, you wouldn't do that.
	But it's like, you know, like approach me on some racist stuff.
	Which is one of the reasons I fucking love this country.
	I'm terribly.
	Give me like two seconds.
	Because what you're talking about, like when you go to the UAE or when you go to China or any of these places, you can go there.
	And if you're a high-net worth person or whatever, you can move there.
	They will accept you as a citizen.
	Any of these things.
	But if you're in China and you don't have a lineage of like nine generations of being in China and speak fluent Mandarin, you will never be Chinese in their eyes.
	Whereas if you come to my country and you say the Pledge of Allegiance that you stand under our flag, that you will fight for our country and that you believe in our people above all else aside from God, then you're an American.
	That's why I love this country so much.
	I will accept freaking everybody if they love my country and they love our Western values.
	That is just what I love about it.
	It's amazing.
	Like our greatest freaking congressman in the United States Congress right now, his name Byron Donalds.
	He's a black guy.
	He is freaking amazing.
	He is going to be president of the United States.
	He is a hardcore conservative.
	He is just a freaking badass.
	And the reason that he's a badass is because he doesn't define things by race.
	He doesn't cut things into all these things.
	It's a trap that the elites in this country have tried to do because people are so much easier to control when they're fighting against each other or not unified as a people.
	If we all just came together and said, you know what, I'm going to judge you based on what I know about you, not on the fact that you're Asian.
	I know a lot of people who have tattoos on their chest.
	I'm not going to judge you based on people I know that have tattoos on their chest.
	I'm going to judge you based on the content of your character.
	That's not saying that you can't use statistics to your advantage if you're in a dangerous situation or anything like that.
	That's just saying that in this country, if you love this country and you take the Pledge of Allegiance to my country and you are a citizen, I will defend you with my last breath, regardless of who you are, what you worship, or anything.
	I will die for you because you're an American.
	But I don't think every American is that way, though.
	No, that's the problem with our country.
	But then also what I was going to say is that a lot of places outside of America have a very different view because I feel like America is a predominantly white, you know.
	Word.
	37%.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Well, I wouldn't live any other country.
	Boom, girl.
	I can't remember.
	Air five.
	Oh, there we go.
	The reach was good on that.
	Okay.
	So let me finally get into some of my pre-show notes here.
	Cindy, actually, do we have two tweets from Cindy?
	Let's do Cindy's two tweets here.
	She's got two tweets.
	Cindy, I like so much.
	I hope this isn't going to just destroy.
	Rip.
	I was wondering.
	Oh, bigger, My guilty patience.
	Is that what she says on the tweets?
	Cindy, my guilty pleasure is watching men do stuff for me.
	Period.
	What does that mean?
	What does it mean for men to do things for you?
	Talking about the hoes?
	No, I'm not talking.
	The hoes don't do things for you?
	My friends, my guy friends are here.
	So what does that mean?
	What does that look like?
	I'm just appreciating men in general like that.
	You know?
	Like my security guard, he helps me all the time.
	Your security guard?
	Yeah, my security guard.
	Do you pay him?
	He gets paid by the author.
	Oh, I thought you were about to say with like pussy or something.
	You pay him with pussy.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Just a way out there.
	I'm just.
	That's I love men.
	But what's so cool about that.
	Oh, go ahead.
	Rubber.
	The tweet said you like watching men do things for you.
	So I assume they're like doing things for free.
	Like they're like taking you on trips.
	They're getting you gifts.
	They're acts of service type of shit.
	Yeah, I would love that.
	I would love that too.
	You know, if you want to send me stuff.
	No, so anyways, I'm going to make your tweet.
	I'm going to make your tweet so much better.
	Okay.
	Pull it back.
	Opposite directions.
	There we go.
	So anyways, like in my household, there were extraordinarily defined gender roles in my household.
	Like my brother, my dad, and I, we have a four-person family.
	Like my mom did like all of like, you know, the stuff that you would normally attribute to like what women did like in the 1950s.
	Like my mom is like the definition of a menonist.
	She's awesome.
	But like my mom freaking loves sitting there and being like, like I provide for my the men in my household.
	And yeah, they mow my grass.
	They will plant any tree I want.
	If I want a couch picked up and set on top of its side, my sons will do that because I raise freaking warriors.
	And so, anyways, that tweet could be really cool.
	If it's just that you like watching men do stuff for you because they're simps and they're just like betas, that's probably not as wholesome.
	But, anyways, we're just going to read it in the best.
	I think it's coming from the same place, though.
	No, it's definitely coming from the same place.
	Yeah.
	It's the intention behind it.
	I think.
	I don't think if she's your fucking girlfriend, but if she ain't your girl, you shouldn't be doing that shit for a chick.
	So, dude.
	And it sounds like you like men that do things for you that you're not dating, is kind of what I'm pulling from that tweet.
	So, simps, basically.
	So, my public service announcement is: don't be a simp.
	Don't be doing shit for girls.
	You're not dating.
	Hello?
	And remember, you're not.
	It's always good to be kind.
	It's always good to just, you know, do things because you want to do it with me.
	No, don't be, guys, don't be fucking simping for these chicks.
	Like, we had a chick a previous show who said, oh, I was at Chipotle and the guy behind me paid for my Chipotle, and that was it.
	Bro, that's some simp shit.
	Don't be doing weird simply.
	What if I just wanted to do it?
	I'll be making a date with you.
	Nah, that's tricking, dude.
	He's a trick.
	He's like tricking on these girls.
	Hell no.
	Y'all don't, though.
	Y'all don't be, oh, look at that guy.
	Let me just go pay for his Chipotle.
	I'm not going to get a task.
	Women don't.
	We love women.
	Like, we do.
	I mean, I will say, like, if I saw, if I saw a girl that matched kind of what I said that I like.
	Don't do it.
	And she was ahead of you.
	Don't do it, Matt.
	Okay, all right.
	I'm not saying.
	But if I saw a girl ahead of me in Chipotle and I want an opportunity to talk to her, it's the same thing that she would do at a bar.
	Be like, oh, that girl drinks on me.
	And then you have an opportunity to talk to her.
	But obviously, if you're just being manipulated and dominated by a girl, dude, just your reputation as currency and these women that you think that most of us think are destroying the West and destroying our culture are only having influence because we give it to them.
	I think it's an opportunity to do it.
	I think you should be nice to your girl.
	You should do nice things for your girl.
	Until she's your girl, if she's not your girl and until she's your girl, you don't get that kind of nice treatment.
	I agree.
	Like, you don't get, no, you don't buy some random chick shit.
	I also feel like for me, like, men do lose a little bit of their value when they act like that.
	Because then it just makes me think, like, how many other girls do you act like this for?
	He's a simp.
	He's a trick.
	He's a sucker.
	He's just very.
	I don't know.
	One of my favorite girlfriends of all time.
	I was trying to get her to date me.
	Like, you know, we were like, we've been on like two or three dates, and she just kept talking about this freaking chicken coop she wanted to build.
	And so I just.
	A chicken coop.
	Yeah, so I just like popped by and built a freaking chicken coop.
	Next thing I know, she's my girlfriend the next day.
	See, you're a good girl.
	That was like the tipping point.
	She wasn't sure about you, and then you built her a chicken coop, and then she was like, I guess I'll date.
	That's all.
	That's that act of service.
	It's a love language.
	You're a real man.
	Okay.
	But do not each their own medicine.
	But do not just do it for girls who are just keeping you in the friend zone.
	I personally would not build a chicken coop for a woman on a third date to each their own.
	As a guy, if you want to do that, go for it.
	I think it's maybe a little ill-advised.
	If it's a girl that you're trying to date and you're trying to make your wife, I think you would do acts of service for her.
	Not that, me personally, not that early on.
	Okay.
	Maybe three years in.
	Well, when do you want to go bow to you?
	What date is that?
	Oh, immediately.
	She's got to bow immediately.
	Of course.
	I got you.
	Yeah, the bow has to be boom.
	It's got to be a bit of a bad thing.
	Got to wait out.
	Yeah.
	$20 people.
	Chipotle is absurdly expensive, too.
	It is.
	That's like three meals and one thing.
	If you get that picture, just the app, you can get the discount and stuff.
	Just take the door dash.
	Take the door dash off the shelf.
	You know, like, like, I love Chipotle.
	Chipotle.
	Cindy, hold on.
	Can you pull the mic closer to you, please?
	Yep.
	Cool.
	What kind of content do you make on OF?
	Is it solo, boy girl, girl, girl content?
	I make solo and you don't do boy girl, girl, girl?
	I said more.
	Solo and more.
	Boy girl?
	Boy girl, I have done boy girl before.
	On your OnlyFans.
	Girl girl?
	I've done girl girl content.
	I'm open to everything.
	Nick, can you pull up Cindy's Instagram, please?
	So I'm noticing you're wearing a cross.
	Oh, not too much.
	I am wearing a cross.
	You're wearing a cross.
	Yes.
	Do you consider yourself a Christian?
	I believe in God.
	I believe in Jesus.
	I mean, the cross is a Christian symbol.
	Yeah, I don't go to like.
	I don't go to like church every Sunday, but I pray almost every day.
	Nick, do you have it?
	This is your Instagram.
	Yeah.
	Haram.
	So you have, in addition to you wearing the cross, you have God first, and then right below God first, we're not going to click on that link, you have your website, which links to your OnlyFans, where you do pornographic content.
	Where you do pornographic, yes, but it also links to that's your link tree or whatever, where it links to your OnlyFans, where you do solo nude content, boy girl content, girl girl content.
	Yeah.
	You're wearing a cross.
	Make that make sense for me.
	So I am very grateful and blessed that God gave me the position to do what I do right now.
	And that is where I'm going to leave it.
	Wait, just a clarifying question.
	God put you.
	Can you repeat that for me one more time?
	Yeah, I said I'm very blessed that God gave me this position.
	God, what position is that?
	Everything that, like.
	To do porn?
	I don't do, like, I don't do that on my OLAS.
	You said you do solo, boy girl, girl, girl content.
	Okay, but you have to find out to see what kind of content that is with a girl and a guy.
	So are you subscribed and talk to me and get to know me?
	You mean talk to your typer, but no, it's like one-on-one chats.
	I actually talk to you personally.
	I'm sure.
	So.
	So you do, I mean, you do do adult content with you do nude content.
	That's what it sounds like, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So you're saying that God put you in the position to do nude content, solo with other women and with other men.
	Is that correct?
	No, God can be like, okay.
	Straight into my soul.
	So yes.
	Like, I don't know how to, like, I'm just grateful that I'm able to.
	It's more than that to her.
	Yeah.
	It can be more than just a video or just a picture.
	It's like, you know, financially or what?
	Something that she likes to do.
	Okay, but so you're wearing a cross.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Do you wear your cross while you're engaging in producing porn or OnlyFans content?
	Have you?
	I always wear my cross.
	You always wear your cross.
	I just took it off.
	So you wear, yes, you wear it while you're engaging in porn and OnlyFans content.
	Yes, when I make my content, I am wearing my cross.
	Sure.
	And so do you think, it sounds like, do you think that God approves of you doing porn, basically?
	Yeah, it's not hurting anybody.
	I do it very safely.
	Do you think God wants you making porn?
	God said that he loves everyone.
	Okay.
	And what they do.
	So, okay, I have a question.
	If God wants you to be a porn star or do OnlyFans or make new content, what do you think Satan wants?
	I don't like talking about that person.
	You don't like talking about Satan?
	But, okay, if you're saying that God has put you in this position to do OnlyFans, to do porn, he wants you to be doing that.
	What do you think Satan wants?
	He wants me to stop doing what I do, I guess.
	Satan wants you to not do porn, and God wants you to do porn.
	Do I have that right?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So go ahead, Matt.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to bring up an interview.
	So one, I'm going to go ahead and clarify some things because I'm sure we're going to get a few things.
	Well, God says, do not judge.
	The full verse is, do not judge lest ye be judged.
	And so that's saying, like, you know, just if you're judging someone, you're also inviting that onto yourself.
	One, if you're afraid to talk about Satan, I question if you're actually a Christian because we are sealed in.
	No, I've heard that before.
	Like, it's not bad to talk about him, but I also just don't like to talk to him.
	No, I mean, there is a point of view.
	There is a verse to focus on what is good and pure and right.
	But there's also where we can go and do combat with evil forces.
	And it's by the word of our testimony, by the faith that we show in God, and just the ability that we are sealed entities.
	And we can experience spiritual oppression, but we can never experience spiritual possession.
	Like when I walk into a place where they say it's haunted, I'm like, I am a son of God.
	You will flee from me.
	But the biggest thing that I have an issue with is when you're saying you're a Christian, there's a verse where it says, do not take the Lord's name in vain.
	A lot of people, that's why people say, oh, like a bunch of Christian girls will type in, oh my gosh, and it's because they don't want to be considered as saying OMG.
	It's not necessarily saying, don't say, oh my God.
	It's saying do not take your, like when you say that you're a Christian, do not take that in vain because that has a lot of weight because you're a representation of that.
	You're not supposed to lead people down into a path of temptation.
	And I am not saying I'm a perfect Christian.
	Like I am chief among sinners.
	But there is a very big difference of like, oh, I fail and mess up every once in a while.
	Like if I grabbed a cigarette and smoked it right now, I smoked a cigarette.
	I'm not a smoker.
	If I bought a carton of cigarettes and intended to smoke them for weeks, then I'm a smoker.
	If you are, let's say that you're in, and again, like I have a lot of really great gay friends.
	I think there's some great people.
	But if you are marrying a guy and you're a guy, and you're living in open defiance to God and you're choosing to do that for an extended period of time, that is a mortal sin.
	If you are choosing to live in promiscuity, which is a sin, and like you literally have an account on OnlyFans and you have a link to it, you're telling people to go to it, intending to post more stuff, you are then continuing to live in sin.
	And it is just, it's a mockery to God.
	It's taking his name in vain to wear his cross while you're committing these acts of sin.
	And again, I know that I am a sinner.
	Just like Paul says, I'm chief among singers.
	I mess up all the time.
	But when I mess up, I literally try and go and fix that and turn away from that.
	When you repent from sin, repent, the definition of the word is turning and going the opposite direction.
	And so I just question how you can be a Christian and produce that kind of content that destroys you.
	But you don't know what kind of content unless you subscribe, right?
	But they're saying she's using this as a sales pitch to be nude.
	Go fucking sub.
	You could tell us.
	You could just be straightforward and just be like, yeah, I do nude content.
	You know, they're probably playing Yahtzee on there.
	They're probably fucking playing.
	I mean, but you don't even have to go to your OnlyFans.
	You could just look at your Instagram.
	Why don't you tell us what kind of content you make on OF?
	Sure.
	I said solo and just lingerie, sexy, like all the behind-the-scenes content from all the photo shoots that I've done.
	And much of that.
	Have you had sex with a man on camera?
	No, I actually have not.
	But you said you do boy girl content.
	That's exactly where I'm right.
	That's what I said.
	Like you have to.
	What about like well, why don't you just be precise in what you're telling us?
	I'm not going to go sub to your OnlyFans right now.
	Then, like, all the people that subscribe to my page would be subscribed to.
	They still get to see the content.
	You're not like by saying, by the way, guys, this is what's on my page.
	I know.
	I make boy.
	What?
	I make boy-girl content so they would have to subscribe to see the discussion.
	Yeah, but you telling us what that is.
	You're not like releasing the photos and videos.
	We are dressed very sexy.
	And even that, and I know that we take it to the extremes of this stuff.
	And guys, I want you all to know.
	I know I'm speaking pretty passionately about this.
	I love all of you guys.
	I want you to know that.
	As a Christian, I love all you guys.
	But I detest sin.
	I'm not calling people like, oh, you're not supposed to judge.
	You're supposed to be quiet and everything.
	That is not the case.
	As a Christian, you are supposed to detest idolatry.
	You're supposed to detest the things that go against God because it's destroying the world.
	There are clear ones that were just like, it'll just take two seconds.
	There are clear studies where it shows the damage that whether it's porn or whether it's just looking at lots of sexy pictures and all kinds of stuff, the way it warps and damages the minds of young people.
	Okay, but I want to say that my content isn't porn, though.
	It's just content of me.
	People are just obsessed with me.
	Can you just tell what kind of content you do?
	Are you nude in any of your content?
	I am nude in some content.
	Are the guys ever nude in any of the content?
	I don't sell those content, but I used to.
	I mean, if you did it in a serious situation, they're up right now, but he's saying basically, even if there was one or two pictures of you nude, like that.
	Or even just sexy pictures, like of you and lingerie, that's what they're kind of like saying is what they're saying is, you know, like going against.
	And again, I'm not trying to be mean, but I care about your soul.
	Lingerie is very sinful.
	If it's not with your husband, yeah.
	But I know it's the goal.
	I have to disagree.
	I still think that God will still love you.
	Oh, I guarantee God loves you, but he wants your soul and he will fight for it.
	And even if he, like, I was so arrogant, I was literally like a demigod.
	I was six foot three, incredibly strong.
	I had a brain like you couldn't imagine.
	And God literally allowed my back to be broken.
	And it has humbled me more than anything.
	And I would love if you would just repent and be obedient to God rather than him having to bring some kind of pain into your life that draws you closer to him because it's not fun.
	Me and Anne are going to go to church.
	I do follow by God, though.
	We are.
	Okay.
	And it's not just OnlyFans.
	I do.
	I can't reason with you.
	I understand.
	And I want you to know I love you, and I want you to be in a great relationship with God.
	Because even though he says that he loves everyone, understand that when it says the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
	Imagine if someone did something terrible to us, like murdered my friend here.
	If someone murdered him, I would.
	I'm not murdering anyone.
	That's right.
	Rush out.
	If anybody murders me, Madison is meeting up with anybody.
	I know.
	Give me just two seconds.
	Give me two seconds.
	I would make that person suffer rather than just giving him an instant death.
	I really would.
	Because that, like, that.
	But think of how aggressive God is.
	He will put you in hell for eternity.
	I might hurt the guy for like 20 minutes.
	He will put you in hell for me.
	I don't know that well.
	Okay.
	I have no control of what the person that's buying my content going to do.
	No, no, no, no.
	You're putting out that.
	I want your soul to be in heaven with me.
	And we get to live forever in new bodies and have new jobs every single day.
	And the only way you're going to do that is if you repent and kneel to God.
	Because doing OnlyFans content, I promise, is a sin.
	And I'm not saying it's not redeemable.
	I'm not saying you're not going to heaven.
	I'm just saying it is God detests it.
	Maybe that's all I'm going to say.
	I can't.
	I really like that.
	If you were an atheist, I think we probably wouldn't.
	I wouldn't.
	I mean, but like, it's, I think where we're approaching this from is like it's kind of contradictory to be like, okay, like I'm going to wear a cross and then I'm in your bio.
	It's almost like blaspheming to the point of like, if you're wearing the cross in your pornographic content and in your Instagram bio, you say God first, and then there's a link directly below it linking to your link tree or whatever that links to your OnlyFans.
	That's like kind of super contradictory.
	So that's the angle where we're approaching that as.
	If you're an atheist and you're like, yeah, I do porn, it's like, okay, we get it.
	But it's like, it's so contradictory.
	And I almost wonder if it's a shtick to get, like, be controversial and get attention.
	It's literally.
	But, like, can you pull up the Instagram once more?
	Like, it's literally, we're not exaggerating.
	It's literally God first and then CindyZang.com, like her fucking links to her OnlyFans.
	Scroll down a little bit, scroll down on her profile, scroll down on her profile.
	I also have playbooks.
	You got the cross, the cross there.
	There's you and Snoop.
	There's Snoop Dogg.
	Jesus, this is fucking haram.
	How many followers do you have?
	Total?
	Yeah.
	500 there.
	That's incredible.
	I know how hard that is to build.
	You have so much influence.
	And there could be young girls who look up to you specifically.
	Maybe they come from an atheist household and they're just trying to figure out God.
	And they're like, oh, wait a minute.
	This girl is a Christian.
	I look up to her.
	She's really pretty.
	I want to look like her when I get older.
	I want to be like her.
	Oh, but she can be a Christian and do this.
	Boom, I found my path.
	And I just, that's, that's the reason I'm being so aggressive on it.
	That's the only reason.
	And because I care about your soul.
	And with that, I'm done.
	And you're great, super beautiful.
	We all love you.
	And God loves you.
	And he wants you to spend eternity with him.
	Take the red pill.
	I do want to ask you again.
	So if God wants you to be a porn star, to do porn, to do OnlyFans, what do you think Satan wants?
	I have no comment over that.
	Okay, that's a checkmate.
	Okay.
	That's a really hermeneutical, difficult one to answer, so I understand.
	I still think that I'm, like...
	Do you think you're a godly woman?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Even when you're doing pornographic.
	This has such serious heaviness weight.
	Let's not.
	Let's not.
	Let's not beat the end of the world.
	Let's move on a lot.
	We want to come to Christ.
	Yeah.
	Not just feel like we trust that.
	I'll just finish on this.
	Okay, there's.
	So go and sin no more.
	And also, Jesus says, if you love me, keep my commandments.
	It's just very contradictory.
	Like, pornography creates lust.
	Lust is one of the seven deadly sins.
	Seventh commandment, you shall not commit adultery.
	Lusting is equivalent to adultery.
	And we actually have real conversations.
	You talk who?
	To the people that subscribe to my OnlyFans.
	You mean your typer does?
	No, I actually do on my own.
	That's cat.
	Okay, no, it doesn't matter, though, but that's not even what you're saying.
	Well, I mean, you don't want to get me started on the type of shit.
	Don't think about it.
	This is literally.
	I love you guys.
	No, you're great.
	We're done.
	Wait, you're done.
	We're done.
	We're done attacking you.
	You're saying that you have religious conversations about Jesus with your OnlyFans subscribers?
	I never, okay, if we want to talk about God, we can talk about God, but.
	I, I, I. I'm just asking.
	Let's make a difference.
	I think we should learn what our mom is.
	This isn't about reverting.
	Cindy.
	I think.
	Do you want me to bow down for you?
	Yes.
	I will save you, Cindy.
	I will fix you.
	No, you will not.
	You are going to abandon your degenerate hedonistic life in Los Angeles.
	You're going to delete your OnlyFans.
	You're going to get yourself set up on a farmstead here in Santa Barbara.
	And yes, you will bow for me.
	Okay.
	And you're going to delete your Instagram, TikTok, OnlyFans, etc.
	Oh, okay.
	So then I'll be homeless.
	No, all the money.
	Okay.
	All the money.
	Brian will take care of you.
	You just have to bow to me.
	All the money you've accrued, you will direct into my own thing, you know?
	Like, I want to like have I want to be able to have my own business.
	I want to have like things that I'm ambitious about and not rely on a man to like fully like always take care of you.
	Okay, cool.
	You can pay for the first date, I guess.
	Okay, and I'm not saying like you should pay for the first date.
	Oh, you should.
	Oh, as a man that's taking on a girl on a date, first date, yes.
	I'm just saying, question on that.
	Do you think as a man, a man should pay for the first date?
	Yes, yes.
	Going around the table?
	Yes.
	Into the mic, please.
	Yes.
	Thank you, Matt.
	I think it depends who initiated the date first.
	Have you ever asked a guy out?
	No.
	I wasn't dating.
	Exactly.
	But I wasn't dating throughout my high school years.
	It depends on who asks, but I never asked.
	But even when they did ask me on a date, I would always say, I will go half with you.
	That's fair.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Always go half with you.
	Yes, the guy should pay.
	Definitely.
	So those of you who have OnlyFans, if your position is, yes, the guy should pay for her first date because that's traditional, so too then should it be the case that a woman should not be doing porn and have OnlyFans.
	If we're talking about should.
	What does that have to do with the first date?
	But you have a very traditional view of men's gender roles.
	They all know that before they go on a date with me, so if they choose to go on that date with me, but y'all are saying men should adhere to this traditional gender role of being chivalrous and being gentlemen.
	It's not traditional to be fucking popping your pussy and doing all this extra shit and having OnlyFans and doing porn.
	Don't go on a date with a girl that offsets, you know, right?
	But it's a contradiction.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, obviously, there's going to be an OnlyFans.
	I agree.
	As a guy, I agree with you.
	As a guy, if you don't want to date an OnlyFans girl, don't date an OnlyFans girl.
	But the contradiction introduces itself because if you, as an OnlyFans girl, wants a guy to be traditional and adhere to his traditional gender rules, the reality is you're not a traditional woman.
	Sorry.
	There's going to be guys that They're going to do that.
	And that's fine.
	If they want to do that, they're going to do that.
	And if they don't want to do that, that's cool.
	That's totally cool.
	It's not that.
	That's totally cool, but it's just a contradiction.
	Like, you guys want traditional treatment, but you don't want to be traditional women.
	What?
	I don't know.
	It is traditional.
	Yes, if your expectation is the guy should pay for the first date, that's a man being a provider.
	That's him being in his traditional gender role.
	One instance.
	Yeah, sure.
	I know that's not.
	It's not like.
	I don't think it correlates because paying on a first date is one thing.
	That's like a small thing with a set intention behind it.
	Okay.
	Being on OnlyFans is like a bigger picture.
	I know, but it's a bigger part of your life.
	So it's kind of incomparable in my eyes.
	It is a very big part of your life.
	You're right.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's not like just like one instance.
	One instance would be a guy paying.
	Right, but I don't know.
	I don't think it's true.
	You guys should actually be in line with your more progressive values.
	If you think it's like fine to do OnlyFans and do porn, then you should be more open to dating a progressive dude that wants to go 50-50.
	But nah, you want that traditional teacher.
	And I agree with you, and I'm not sure if you're not.
	You're not attracted to that, though.
	You're not attracted to that.
	First date.
	First date.
	I think after the first date, it's different, but I think first date you should be.
	Nah, first date, nah.
	I'm just saying if the guy, like, unless there's like a time restraint, but if the guy's not picking you up and he's not buying your dinner every single time, fuck that guy.
	Exactly.
	That's all I'm saying.
	But also, the only way that you're going to get a guy like that, like a good southern man, is I really, I just, I've got a lot of really, like, my friend group is stacked.
	Like, all my boys are awesome.
	They're freaking jacked.
	They're about their business.
	They believe in God.
	They're all southern.
	Like, we all hate the government.
	It's amazing.
	But, like, none of us, not a single one of us.
	I'm not, again, as a Christian, love all you guys.
	Not a single one of us would date an OnlyFans girl.
	We wouldn't even consider it.
	That's fine.
	I still think there are guys who are a traditional girl.
	I'm not from the West Coast.
	I don't know what it's like over here.
	So maybe you're right.
	I mean, I'm not either.
	I'm from the East.
	Doing porn is one of the least traditional things that you can do as a woman.
	So you should be X, there should be extra room for you dealing with like soy boy progressive types.
	Y'all should be dating like soy boy, progressive lefty dudes that want to go 50-50 and won't get pegs.
	You want us to be on that.
	But the truth is, there are men out there that are traditional successful and really good guys who have a lot going for them and are maybe religious that still would date a girl who doesn't do OnlyFans.
	You're right.
	So maybe a lot of the sad state of affairs want it a certain way, but truth is, it's not always paying for the first date is the most optimum min-max thing you can do to is it though?
	I don't think that's because it's not like maximum.
	No, no, no, no, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
	If, okay.
	I think paying for the first date is in terms of like the option within that specific scenario.
	Like paying for the first date for a girl will never, it's never going to hurt your chances with a girl.
	But not paying for it might hurt your chances.
	So it's the most optimum move that you can make if you're if we're looking at this like a chess game.
	It's the most optimum move when it comes to if you want if your goal is to get the girl they want you going on a date with you knowing that you have an OnlyFans okay and that's really great of you guys to be so upfront.
	Like I think you all said that you'd be super upfront about that.
	I have found in my experience that girls will hide that from me like in two seconds.
	And that's cool.
	You're a special case.
	I think that's definitely very specifically.
	I think some girls might, I don't think that's right, but I think they would be so that's cool.
	And like, I get it.
	There's guys that are going to accept that you do OnlyFans.
	My issue, where I'm coming at it more from, is you as a non-traditional woman are expecting traditional treatment from men.
	That's where it is.
	It's, I agree with you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's going to be guys out there that despite despite how non-traditional you are, whether in behavior, whether in, I mean, I would argue doing porn is extremely non-traditional.
	Yeah, there's still guys that are going to give you traditional treatment because that's what works best when it comes to getting women.
	So, of course, they're going to do it because despite your progressive nature, they're still going to be like.
	Paying for dinner is not always just traditional anymore.
	It is a traditional gentleman.
	It is traditionally not what we expect.
	It's also traditional.
	It is what you expect.
	It is something that I'm used to it, ergo.
	You expect.
	That was in the middle of the sentence, though.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yes.
	Well, hold on.
	I'm the host.
	I know.
	I'm the host.
	So, yes, I will interrupt whenever I want.
	Okay.
	Because I have much more discretion when it comes to this conversation.
	Go ahead with your point.
	It's okay.
	Go ahead.
	I finished my point.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, well, I was just saying that it's not even something that I ever said I need a man to do.
	It's something I've always gotten and something that a man has always done for me.
	So that's just something I will not settle less for because that's.
	So it's an entitlement.
	No, no, no, no.
	Hold on.
	It's not an entitlement.
	So are you less likely to go on a second date if the guy wants to split the bill?
	No, it depends on him and the person, but also it's just like now.
	just said you would not settle for less ergo you feel i won't because Ergo, it's an expectation that the guy pay for the first date.
	If you won't settle for less, that means there's not going to be a second date.
	Okay, I get where you're coming from.
	Okay, it's amazing that I have to walk.
	You've made your checkmate and like crazy.
	But I've probably got like probably 15 minutes left.
	So I have one big question I just want to pose out.
	And this is, and we can go around the table, whatever you want to do, but just if you have a comment on it.
	Do you not want a guy who is so freaking in love with you that like if another man like is like lusting after you?
	Like I all my girlfriends have been really beautiful girls.
	All my dates are like pretty girls.
	I'm not going to get super butthurt or mad if like a guy is like I'm getting a drink out of bar talking to somebody else and a guy, I see a guy hitting on her.
	Like I understand she's pretty.
	Like I would hit on her too.
	He couldn't have known.
	But like do you not want a guy who's going to be furious if another dude is just sitting there like touching himself, watching you naked?
	Like, I mean, I would lose my mind.
	It's a lot of people, though, for us.
	It's not like we're into that or like we, it's not someone we're actually like have a connection with or that we're like privately texting or actually privately sending like our stuff to.
	It's it's literally where you're I see what you're saying.
	I think the man would have to be able to separate the two.
	Like in my eyes, because I'm on the other end of it, it is separate for me.
	It's separate from my personal life.
	And some guys can't separate that, which, okay, that's fine.
	And I get that.
	But that's why I'm seeking for a confident man in my life.
	But I think sometimes you like to call it insecure, but it's more sacred.
	And a woman's body, especially it being her partner, that's sacred to her partner.
	You're a freaking gangster, by the way.
	Every answer has been just twist the hips and hit it out of the park.
	That's been sick.
	All right.
	Did you have more?
	Oh, I got all kinds of questions.
	This is so fun.
	Okay.
	Well, do you have it?
	You said you have a hard stop here pretty soon, or yeah, I think like 20 minutes.
	Okay, all right.
	Okay, yeah, cool.
	Um, I'm trying to think if there's any uh other things I had.
	Yeah, I need some McDonald's.
	The second Twitter, she has a Cindy has a second Twitter post.
	Okay, let's pull it up.
	Let's see what it says.
	Cindy, I'm not attacking you first of the night.
	Why can't boys act like men?
	Don't scroll down.
	Why can't boys act like men?
	Why can't women not have OnlyFans?
	That picture is because they need money.
	How does that look super sexy enough?
	Again, but this goes back to the whole like non-traditional women want traditional men.
	But I think you gotta get off your home more to that point, Cindy.
	Can you define for me like what you're talking about when you say why can't boys be men?
	Like, what do you mean?
	Sorry.
	I think it was just the caption.
	Just like you guys did your research.
	Oh my gosh.
	I'm liar.
	I didn't do any opposite.
	I didn't know any of your names.
	I had no opposition.
	Go ahead, Cindy.
	I'm honored.
	So I think that there was a time where I was only attracting just boys.
	Like, it was just me kind of like not looking for like an actual man.
	I was looking for like boys, like boys that don't want to act like a man.
	Confident, pays for the first date, just all the qualities that I seek for in a guy that I want to marry.
	Anything else besides that stuff?
	Like pays for first dates, anything else?
	Like what do you want your home?
	What do you want your home life to be like?
	Like you're married.
	Like are you still doing OnlyFans at this point?
	Like you're like, you know, you're got kids on the way.
	You guys have your new house.
	Everything's great.
	You know, white picket fences, you know, the whole American dream.
	Like, what do you want your man to be like?
	Do you want to be doing OnlyFans at that point?
	I would do it if he's okay with it.
	Yeah.
	But if you met like a badass dude, like a freaking killer.
	And again, just YouTube.
	When I say killer, I mean like a guy who like kills his goals, like goes after him.
	You meet like a killer.
	Like, and he was like, hey, I want you.
	Would you stop OnlyFans for me?
	Would you do it?
	I don't think.
	Okay, I wouldn't do it if I'm losing all my money.
	Right, but what point will you say yes?
	If he's like providing, though?
	Yeah, like he says, marry me with no.
	I mean, what point?
	If he's providing, yes.
	But again, going back to what I was talking about, like, I want to do my own thing.
	Like, things that I like.
	You're a non-traditional woman.
	Why should a guy pay for you on the first date?
	Feminism is struck again.
	And I'm not.
	It's just ridiculous.
	I'm not even talking.
	For me.
	But here's the crazy time I get.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	Let me just say this.
	I say it's ridiculous.
	To the point where it doesn't even involve OnlyFans, just different things that I want to do.
	Like maybe it's acting.
	Maybe it's singing.
	Okay, Brian.
	What's up?
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	So I say it's ridiculous, but the reality is, is that there's a large, it's like this whole idea of like, oh, these OnlyFans girls, they're never.
	Granted, I do think it's true.
	Like they're going to close their doors to a lot of dudes.
	But the reality is, reality is like women's sexual optionality is so fucking insane that whether they do OnlyFans, whether they don't do OnlyFans, women's sexual optionality, like an average girl, has the equivalent sexual optionality of like an A-list celebrity, professional athlete, musician, actor, whatever.
	So even though I say it's ridiculous that they have these expectations, the reality is, even though they are like engaged in these non-traditional behaviors and they're super progressive and liberal and feminist, they can absolutely find dudes who will still do all this traditional shit just because that's the dating marketplace.
	So it's ridiculous, but like this is the way they get treated, so they can get it.
	But frankly, I don't think it's the correct order of things, but perhaps I'm an idealist in that way, but it is what it is.
	So, yeah.
	Well, before we move on to your next question, could we flip the script right here?
	Does anybody, so like, you know, we're both consider ourselves like traditional guys.
	Do you guys have any questions like towards our end of the spectrum?
	We'll do a good five count.
	I mean, why is it like so important to you about like your values?
	Well, I understand more you because like you're Christian, you know?
	I don't know if you're Christian, but like why is it like so important?
	Which value specifically?
	Well, like that a girl is like not a hoe.
	Well, not necessarily not a hoe, but like you said she had to be short.
	She needed an Audi badge.
	You know, like that.
	I'm being humorous on that.
	So, okay, fine.
	I'll actually address those point by point.
	I'll date a girl who's 6'5.
	I'll date a girl who's 4'7.
	Height is not a deal breaker for me.
	I have a slight preference for women who are shorter, but it's like, again, I'll date a girl who's taller than me.
	I'll date a girl who's super short.
	I don't give a, I really don't care about height.
	I say that, I say that somewhat jokingly, like, oh, if she's 5'2, that's too tall.
	That's me joking.
	When it comes to the, again, and I already said this.
	I prefer women with Audis.
	Is it a deal breaker if she has an Innie?
	Absolutely not.
	Innies are fucking dope, too.
	Sign me up.
	Any?
	I'm down for an Innie.
	I'm down for an Audi.
	Whatever.
	I have a question.
	Do you guys have like a sex role?
	You know, some people are like, oh, wait three months until you sleep with him.
	I will not have sex with a girl if I'm not in love with her.
	And I will only fall in love with a girl if she is, I think she would be a perfect, like a good mom, because that's always a thing.
	I should be.
	And again, this is what I was saying.
	Like, I'm chief among sinners.
	I really try to abstain from that.
	I want to be like married, all these things.
	But, you know, like life is the way it is.
	I do try my best.
	But I would say, oh, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	No, you're okay.
	Like, let's say before you like fall in love with her and you guys take that next step, if she's like trying to like pursue sex with you, how does that like make you view her differently?
	No.
	No?
	No, because that just probably means she's already in love with me.
	But I mean, like, I'm sure it's happened, it's happened both ways in my life.
	Like, maybe I was pursuing it.
	She wasn't ready yet or the other way around, you know?
	But yeah, no, there's no like date line on that.
	For me, it's just like, I am not going to have the potential to have a child with somebody and then bring like part of my bloodline into existence where the mom's going to be a train wreck.
	Because I think it is so crucial.
	I think number one is most crucial for there to be a father in the household.
	But I think number, like the best option in the entire world is to have a good mother and a good father in the house.
	That is the number one way to keep kids off drugs.
	There's the number one way to keep kids out of jail.
	There's the number one way to create high value, high impact people.
	And this is one other thing that I want to hit on, especially like in red pill media, people talk about, oh, well, you've got to be high value.
	You don't want to be working on nine to five.
	You don't do all these things.
	Can we bring some honor and respect back to just like tradesmen?
	Like good men who are putting the work in every single day in and out to make our actual world run.
	And like I tell people all the time, like, oh, do you want to be a millionaire before all your friends?
	Cool.
	Do not go to college.
	Go to trade school and become a lineman.
	Like if you're a plumber in Cape Coral, where I live right now, you can become a millionaire by the time you're 35.
	Easy.
	Whereas if you go to college, you're just going to be in debt and like you might be breaking even at that point.
	And so, again, when I say like, if you want a high-value guy, I'm not talking about income.
	I'm just saying like a guy who's with it on like all bars.
	But anyways.
	And I would also like to hear Brian's answer.
	So the question was, how long to wait for sex, basically?
	Yeah, like do you have like a role with that or like what's your opinion?
	Sure.
	So I mean my personal view on this is I actually don't think there's any need to wait.
	Okay.
	Truth be told.
	I think it can be an indicator of potential promiscuity.
	Some guys will be like, well, if she sleeps with you too soon, that means that she's a three-off foe.
	For a donated $101, Congressman and Chase would make an amazing tag team on this panel.
	Their intense Christianity, their, in my opinion, more respectable values of love.
	Did we just become best friends?
	So put that meme up.
	It'd be a bromance there.
	Hey, dude, Fally, thank you, man.
	By the way, I lowered.
	So the read threshold, I need to change this on some of the other indicators.
	The read threshold is 50, and then the TTS threshold is now 100.
	I'm going to change some of those things real quick.
	But to answer your question, so yeah, I mean, me personally, I'm not big into, here, let's wait months or until I don't believe in waiting until marriage.
	I think it's fine to sleep with someone relatively quickly.
	Would you initiate sex on the first date?
	Sure.
	Yeah, why not?
	And if she did it, you wouldn't be like, oh, she didn't.
	I think there's far better indicators of is this person like promiscuous or than the rapidity with which she sleeps with you.
	Okay.
	Like her body counts probably, that's a better indicator.
	Her other sorts of behaviors are a much better indicator of her character than how quickly, because she could just be like really into you.
	Yeah.
	Like a girl who's, for example, a girl who's a virgin might want to sleep with you after a couple dates.
	One of the best sets of parents I literally know in the entire world, and they have like incredible children.
	They're awesome.
	They got married in nine weeks.
	They met each other, got married in nine weeks.
	And then I know some people who like dated for like, you know, they did a courtship.
	They dated for like three years.
	They did like all the spiritual counseling, all this stuff.
	And they had like a train wreck of a marriage.
	Before you move on to your next point, can I do one more?
	Oh, I was going to stick on that for a little bit.
	Oh, get it.
	Well, I was just going to say, like, most of my long-term relationships, I've had a two-year, I've had a two-year or one-year and a five-year relationship.
	In all these instances, I think we had sex within either the first or second date.
	And then I've had like catastrophic, not catastrophic, but I've had bad relationships with women who are like, I want to wait a month.
	And it's like, I don't think the, like, and I know couples, for example, they slept together on the first date and they are happily married.
	They've been together for, one of my very close male friends, he hooked up with his now wife and they have kids on the first date.
	So I don't think it, it's, now if she's doing that with like tons of guys, that's where it could be a problem.
	But if she's selective with the men that she sleeps with, now it could be a negative indicator, but I don't think it's like 100% determining factor.
	So for me, like if a girl sleeps with me on the first date, I'm not, I wouldn't judge her for that.
	Sometimes, but if the vibes, you know, maybe you want to wait till the second or third date, like maybe it's, maybe she wants to wait, that's cool.
	I'm not a big fan of waiting too long, though, because it depends.
	Like if that's been her standard for all her previous sexual relationships, then cool.
	But you've slept with 10, 20 dudes, and you slept with all of them on the first date, and now you want to wait until marriage.
	That's your prerogative.
	I'm just not the guy for you.
	Go find a guy who's down to wait for marriage.
	I don't want to wait for marriage.
	What's up?
	Isn't it more ladylike if y'all waited?
	Not necessarily.
	Yeah.
	Especially if her standard for all the previous, like, I get that it's a tough position for women.
	Like, so for example, let's say you used to be promiscuous and you used to sleep with guys really quick and you slept with a bunch of dudes.
	Like, I don't want to sit here and be like, well, you now have to be stuck into just sleeping with dudes super quick if you don't want, like, that's not what I'm saying.
	But I think it's, as a guy, we're going to look at a girl like, okay, you're past 20 previous sexual partners, you slept with them right away, and now you want to make me wait.
	I'm going to start thinking, okay, she just sees me as a sucker.
	She's not sexually attracted to me.
	She's not physically attracted to me.
	She doesn't have that same burning desire that she has for those other guys.
	So I'm going to feel a certain type of way about it.
	And that, look, again, you want to wait?
	That's totally cool.
	But if there's a miss, there's a misalignment.
	If you want to wait, I don't want to wait till marriage, for example.
	Maybe some of you guys here, you don't want to wait till marriage to have sex also.
	I think it's perfectly reasonable.
	Like, if you don't want to, whether you're a man or a woman, you don't want to wait.
	There's a misalignment there.
	You find somebody else to date.
	It's very simple.
	So I'm going to go in probably about like five minutes, but yeah, I got one question I really wanted to ask.
	Go for it.
	So I feel like you and I are probably the most at odds on our personal beliefs.
	And I know you don't know me super well, but do you think that there's like any belief that I share or I have that you're like, that's dumb?
	And like, let's talk about that.
	I think you got your head on straight.
	I've really enjoyed a lot of the stuff that you said, and I've enjoyed your style of debate very much.
	I've really appreciated certain times where you cut in.
	I do disagree on a few things.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $100.
	Fucking Win Wheels.
	You should come back.
	For the panel, would you date a man who carries his legally owned firearm as part of his daily routine?
	Would you be willing to train in its use?
	Okay, would you date a guy who legally owns a firearm?
	Yeah, this is a really good question.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Currently.
	Currently in this situation.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And remember, concealed carry is legal in all 50 states if you're not a bitch.
	Wait, I'm just kidding.
	That is not legal advice.
	I was like, hold on.
	It's pretty hard.
	It's a joke.
	It's a joke.
	Okay.
	I was like.
	You might catch somebody a felony with that one.
	Because, yeah, it's like super hard in a lot of counties in California to get a CCW.
	Because it's, let's not get into it.
	Okay.
	You were saying something about you disagreeing with you.
	Wait, is there like agreeing and disagreeing and stuff like that?
	I don't share religious beliefs.
	Sorry.
	I said, yeah, no, I've enjoyed your conversation.
	I don't agree with your religious beliefs.
	And I also believe that my dating values, this is a dating podcast, is greatly different than you guys specifically is why we've been butting heads and stuff like that.
	So I don't.
	Did you butt heads with anybody here?
	I don't know that I would be able to really share my exact values and things like that since it's been very, very dominantly, you know, the monogamous Christian beliefs, been kind of pushed out very heavily.
	So I do disagree on some of those points.
	I really do agree very much on with OnlyFans, obviously adult work and things like that.
	So there is a few points that, you know.
	I got one question I want to just parry with you.
	So we disagree on religious beliefs.
	What would you define?
	Like, do you believe like in a higher power?
	Do you believe in spirituality?
	Okay, so this is a thing that I think gets misquoted a lot.
	It's like the separation of church and state, which is not in any of our founding documents.
	One of our founding fathers put that in a letter and sent it out.
	And again, church and state, you know, I mean Christian church, you just mean like this institution of religion.
	So I like to read things through the lens of original intent.
	You can read it through, like if it's a living document, whatever.
	I like to look at it through original intent.
	My opinion, I think that that means that they want to keep the government out of churches and religion, not religion out of the government.
	So, like, you're kind of like a spiritual-based person, like, maybe you don't believe in like you know, the type of higher power I believe in, which is Jesus Christ and God and the Trinity.
	I love Jesus Christ.
	So, okay, but anyways, but like, would you get mad if I go onto the house floor and I'm giving a speech about why I believe in a certain such certain thing and then I quoted or like referenced a Bible story?
	Would you be like, oh no, you're not supposed to bring that into the I mean, I think that's a little different than dating.
	I think that when you're dating someone and you're having a dynamic or you're getting involved with someone, and I mean, obviously, you're gonna have a few dates, whatever your spirituality, religion, your politics are gonna come up, your values, where you see things and stuff like that.
	That's not politics, that's gonna be discussing your compatibility, really, in dating.
	So, when you're talking about being on the political floor, that's a totally separate issue.
	All right, but that's just something because, like, you, I don't experience many people like you on the East Coast.
	Like, you just look like you, like, you look like what I consider LA to look like, you know?
	So, like, would you be upset?
	Like, I wouldn't be upset if someone came up and quoted the Quran because I'm like, that is influencing their beliefs.
	I respect multiple religions.
	Right.
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay, so, like, you're respect religion.
	You don't mind if someone's like, oh, hey, I'm voting this way because my religion tells me to.
	Oh, no.
	No, absolutely.
	That's a really interesting thing.
	I'm really glad to hear that.
	I don't discriminate anyone for anything.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	Anybody else have any amazing points or anything you want to be?
	Also, I just want to thank, I know this is not my podcast.
	But everyone that's been like donating all kinds of stuff for all of us being here, we really appreciate it.
	You know, this is like a fun forum that we can do all kinds of stuff on.
	To the new subscribers, new followers, that's really sick.
	You guys rock.
	We're probably going to do like another three minutes just closing remarks if anybody has any statements.
	Anybody got anything?
	I'm going to talk about like Rocky, like she's, I don't know about like, but like BDSM and like all that.
	And like, I don't know.
	I thought we could get into that because I feel like this is.
	I'm going to tell you, this is going to come back to haunt me.
	This is so hard.
	My husband Clark was on the thing.
	You were on a thing, but you were disagreeing.
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	There's a company called Media Matters.
	They will edit this and make it look like we'll get you on a leash, Madison.
	On a leash.
	You're not working at the airport anymore.
	Seriously.
	All right, I don't know what you were saying.
	Yeah, but like, for example, like her chastity keys or like just like what is chastity keys?
	Because you don't seem like you guys are like chast chastity.
	Chastity keys mean like for a chastity belt, right?
	No, chastity keys are like a face for us.
	What the fuck?
	We would?
	So you have your keys meaning you're freed or you have a slave.
	Wow, like a slave.
	Our slave is in a cage.
	He's in the trunk right now.
	Yeah.
	Wait, wait, actually?
	Wait, I'm confused.
	Okay, that was a joke.
	No, no, but do you actually have a dude?
	I've had a lot of people.
	No, Stop, stop, stop.
	Hold up.
	Don't get mad.
	Hold up.
	This is an exciting conversation.
	Please.
	I'm going to stay a little longer for this.
	Did you hear this?
	Did you guys hear this in the chat?
	You guys, and I'm not judging you.
	I just want a genuine answer.
	You guys actually have a guy.
	Butler donated $100.
	Congressman.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Jay, to terminate anyone infected with genital herpes.
	The girl in green to your left is a plague rat and her sickness could destroy the human race.
	Enter.
	So, anyways, Jay Butler, I just want to say on behalf of my friend here, thank you for the donation.
	But no, I don't think the federal government should have any more of that.
	The problem with the federal government is they have a monopoly on currency and violence.
	I would like the monopoly on violence to be with the people, so I don't think I should be allowed to terminate her.
	And also, I don't think that you're like a plague.
	Right now, I'm kind of wishing.
	This girl right here and this girl, I think, are going to become Christians, like hardcore Christians, like within the next six months.
	So let's be praying for her.
	We were talking about going to church, actually.
	There we go.
	There we go.
	Don't play with what it is.
	Do you guys actually have someone in a physical cage?
	No, in the trunk.
	I think you guys have now or often.
	No, I think they actually have a dude in their trunk.
	Isn't it just their penis in the cage?
	That's the chastity for you.
	Yeah.
	So their penis is an occasional.
	Literally, you should show him.
	You should show him.
	Shoot him.
	Yeah, you want to see it.
	We have it.
	I don't know if he's ready for that.
	Honestly.
	Wait, are you ready to see that?
	I don't.
	No, I don't.
	I don't want to see it.
	I don't want to see it.
	Do you know how often, like, in those last 40 minutes, I've had her just look out that window while you guys are just putting shit on this fucking screen?
	Do not show me what that thing is.
	Oh, you have a penis cage in there.
	You have a penis in here.
	Don't want to see it.
	So, anyways, moving on.
	Wait, no.
	No, no, no.
	Not a guy in an actual cage.
	No, but you have a guy in your trunk.
	No, that was a joke.
	She's the joke.
	I mean, it's possible you guys do.
	Shit.
	It is.
	Because remember, she does believe she's, you know, men could be overpowered.
	Okay.
	We had a chat that came in earlier.
	I forgot.
	Oh, wait.
	These all came in.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Oh, I need to change the things.
	Madison, I know you said you had to leave here pretty soon.
	Oh, you're good.
	Did you have any other questions?
	Any questions?
	Well, I need to change a couple things here if you want to just ask a question or something.
	Or actually, wait, hold on.
	Is there anything questions?
	No, no, no, no.
	Oh, here's one for McKinsey.
	McKenzie, on your various social media profiles, you have described yourself as a baddie, your favorite big booty angel baby, a bad bitch as a very white dude.
	Can you explain what a baddie is?
	I think the big booty thing is, I get the big booty thing.
	But what's a bad bitch and what's a baddie?
	She's like me.
	Because I'm confused.
	Let's me.
	A baddie.
	I think a baddie is a woman who is confident in herself and believes in herself.
	And it's a bad bitch.
	And she's just a bad bitch.
	And she can do anything that she puts her mind to.
	Period.
	All right, y'all.
	Let's go for five more minutes.
	We'll end at 10:30.
	Is that good with you?
	Well, I have definitely some more questions for you guys.
	But if you need to, I know you said you're going to have to.
	I have a few more questions.
	Yeah, go for it.
	Does anyone have like a contrarian take?
	Like, something that'd be like, oh, that's going to be an interesting discussion.
	What about this?
	Going around the table, do you consider yourself a feminist?
	Starting with you, Cindy, go ahead.
	No.
	I'm not going to steep.
	Into the mic.
	I kind of go both ways.
	So there are points of feminism.
	I think women should be treated like human beings.
	Yes.
	Right.
	Like feminists.
	Like, if a woman is doing equal work, she should get equal pay.
	That's not the part of feminism.
	Well, yeah.
	Like, we can all agree with that.
	Like, I don't think they should be doing the same jobs as men, but like, if they're doing the same jobs, they should get equal pay.
	We can agree with that, right?
	Of course.
	Okay, so what parts of feminism are you like?
	The feminism, the part of feminism that I do agree with is the fact that women should be treated like humans, not as animals, right?
	So, before there was feminism, women were not treated as equal human beings, right?
	Yeah.
	And back in the day, you could get so many horses for a pretty daughter.
	I'm just kidding.
	And they get the right to choose whether or not they work.
	So, we have the right to, as a human, we have human rights.
	So, humans should have human rights.
	Everyone should be treated equal.
	Everyone should be treated.
	When you get to the hyper, super crazy feminism and they're screeching in the streets and stuff like that.
	I kind of draw the line.
	Like the pink hats.
	I actually joined.
	There was a march in, do you know Amber Rose?
	What was the slut walk?
	Amber Rose.
	So there she has a slut walk, and there was a bunch of feminists.
	Did you say a slut walk?
	A slut walk.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's the whole thing.
	So, anyways, it was like feminists on the picketing.
	I don't know.
	It was weird.
	Like, I draw the line.
	Like, there's like there's crazy feminists.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I got you.
	I got you.
	Anybody else consider themselves a feminist?
	Oh, yeah, going around the table.
	Are you feminist?
	No.
	No.
	No, I'm not.
	No.
	No.
	I'm the same as Rocky.
	Like, no, I'm not a feminist, but.
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	I am definitely not a feminist.
	There's a lot of people.
	Do you guys consider yourselves misogynistics?
	What?
	Oh, so, okay, so this is interesting.
	Oh, here.
	All right.
	So, first, we need to define terms.
	Can you give me a definition for word misogynist?
	Okay, a misogynist would be someone, a man who basically looks as men as better than or more than women.
	Absolutely not.
	So I think that men are specifically skilled for certain things.
	I think that this feminist moved, and you know, it was done so we could have a lot of factory workers.
	And it's the reason that we were able to win World War II because we had such amazing manufacturing power, which we need to bring back home.
	But the thing that I think is the worst for is treating boys and girls the exact same.
	Putting a young boy inside of a classroom for eight hours a day, being taught by females the entire time, where he has these rigid little structures where he has to be like, he has to raise his hand to speak.
	If he sees something that he doesn't really like, he can't confront it.
	If he gets in like a little wrestling match with one of his friends in playground, he's going to go to detention where he's just going to get absolutely.
	That's just regular school.
	No, that's just regular school.
	And so this is the reason why I want to homeschool my kids.
	I think that women and boys need to be treated, like girls and boys, like little kids, need to be treated very, very differently.
	Because you're going to have these little boys who are in there and they're going to be like, oh, he has a really hard time focusing.
	And then they're going to go and they're going to be like, oh my gosh, he has ADHD.
	Let's put all these medications.
	I'm stealing this quote from the Percy Jackson series, but those are your freaking battlefield senses that God gave you to be able to defend what is good, right, and just in the world.
	I feel like it's also like viruses and like vaccines.
	Like your body is supposed to fight off.
	Nope, not going to talk about that.
	We're not talking.
	Nope, nope, stop.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	We got.
	I said, okay.
	But anyway.
	Nah, you didn't just say, okay, you can.
	Oh, no, let me say it.
	Let me get my point in about the fucking mean.
	No, I know.
	I got to be careful, bro.
	So YouTube's serious about that.
	Oh, they are very serious.
	Yeah, so we're not going to say that we're.
	Yeah.
	Okay, here.
	Let me here.
	Let me move things along.
	Do you have any takes?
	Do you need any closing arguments before we leave?
	I have a closing comment.
	Like, I really appreciate this podcast because of the platform that it gives to have these types of discussions and conversations.
	And I think it's really helpful for society for other people to kind of hear those opinions that they're kind of unpopular in a way, but maybe more people feel that way.
	They're just kind of scared to speak up.
	And I do think that a lot of the things in our society are detrimental to our society.
	So I'm going to do a clothing saving here in just a second, then we'll let him knock everything out.
	Or do you want to knock him out?
	I got some more.
	I got a ton more.
	Let me say one more thing.
	So I think the biggest way that we can save our country and make because like we said, every metric, things are getting worse for everybody.
	Like if any of us wanted to go buy a house right now, it'd be pretty damn hard.
	I think the way that we fix that is we start saying what we say in private in public.
	And yes, you get attacked for it, you get hammered for it.
	But if you start these conversations, then you are a badass for hosting this kind of podcast.
	Thank you.
	Because, I mean, you enable people to have a real conversation where people are saying in public what we all kind of think in private.
	And that's why it's so cool that it's long form because people kind of get comfortable and do this stuff.
	Also, to the chat, if you're going to DM these girls or anything, remember that I am an incredibly trained debater since I was like 11 years old.
	So if they're like, oh, well, you didn't, you used a straw man argument here and blah, blah, blah.
	Most of these people here are just normal human beings.
	And so does not hold them to the highest standard of debate in the world.
	Because in my job, that's fair.
	That's fair.
	It's not an argument.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But anyways, you're up, man.
	Yeah, no, I appreciate that comment, Madison.
	So we're, wait, I'm trying to think if there was something.
	In any case, oh, I forgot.
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on.
	Grid one.
	Yeah, thank you, Grid 1.
	Appreciate it.
	The politician is right about how boys are treated poorly and how women are encouraged to be slots.
	That's one way to put it.
	Ladies, feminism has failed you.
	How can the patriarchy help you today?
	Okay.
	Wait, did we go around?
	Oh, we did go around on that.
	Yo, grid one.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Hey, man, you've been donating all night.
	We were talking about that.
	Thank you, brother.
	You've got some comments about your patronage.
	Some of your comments are just a lot of fun.
	How can the patriarchy?
	I'll ask them about the patriarchy in a sec.
	We have a monastery coming in at the end of the show.
	Dude, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Oh, by the way, guys, just a reminder, I have lowered the read and TTS triggers here towards the end portion of the show.
	Read, answer, 50 and up, TTS 100 and up.
	Thank you, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Monest Hakama, Brian 07, Congressman 07, CDC Girl 07.
	Panel, what is a woman?
	Starting with Cindy, go ahead.
	We'll go around.
	A woman is someone who speaks her mind, who is confident, who has her freedom of speech, which is basically speaking in her mind.
	Couldn't you say all those same things about men, though?
	Yeah, same thing.
	He's asking for the definition of how do you define a woman?
	What is a woman?
	Well, she gives birth.
	She's like, we're here.
	go ahead yeah that's a that's a complex question because it is non-binary at this point Yeah, I'm not going to really get into all of that.
	What is it?
	You can.
	You can if you want.
	Powerful.
	I'm okay.
	Powerful.
	I'll say powerful.
	Yeah.
	I don't feel like there's any wrong.
	I could say so much about a woman.
	So this is my.
	Wait, wait, let's just let the girls.
	Let's just have all the girls answer.
	Go ahead.
	Someone with the vagina.
	Okay, that's fair.
	Someone with a vagina.
	I think a woman who carries herself well brings feminine energy.
	So just basically like the opposite of masculinity.
	I think someone who is confident and someone who has her own values and what about you?
	I think a woman is someone that was biologically born a woman with XX chromosomes.
	That's pretty much it.
	I agree.
	An adult female.
	Okay.
	the same thing a girl with a vagina i don't know a woman born with a female born with a vagina Yeah, like that's a woman to me.
	Well, let me ask you a question.
	So if a guy has a surgery that gives him a vagina, is that a woman?
	Well, if they identify as a woman, I'm not going to disrespect them and call them a man just because they were.
	But is that a woman?
	Well, if they identify as a woman, yes, I'm going to call them a woman.
	Well, I want to go back.
	I don't know if you're two, because I think both of you said a woman is somebody who has a vagina.
	Do you mean someone who is born with the vagina?
	Someone who is that what you mean?
	You got a pussy.
	You got a vagina.
	Somebody who got a vagina.
	Wait, I have a question for you on that.
	What if you identify as a woman, but you have a penis?
	Are you a woman?
	Well, yeah, because they're identifying as a woman.
	But you said they have to have a vagina.
	Well, if you're transgender, then that's like another thing, you know?
	Well, that's kind of okay.
	Here, Jay Butler, the woman with the chest tattoo looks like the wicked witch of the West.
	Brian, she'll put a gypsy curse on you, and you'll be breaking out in gentle words for days.
	Defend yourself from this evil blank.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're going to get it.
	Okay, she's definitely some sort of witchcraft or something going on, I guess.
	Thank you, Jay Butler.
	Yeah.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	Jay Butler, okay.
	Okay, what about you?
	On the question.
	Okay, cool.
	So a woman is anything, well, has body parts that a woman would have and handles our business even when she doesn't want to.
	And there's so much more, but.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's anybody who's born with excess chromosomes, no tallywhacker.
	And specifically, and this is the number one giveaway if someone's a woman or not.
	If they can handle like the everyday cold really well, you know that's a chick.
	Because I don't know why, but I'll take a gunshot wound all day.
	Like my family needs someone to take a bullet, I'll do it.
	But you give me like a little like sore throat, I just want to just like chocolate.
	Chocolate.
	Yeah, but yeah, that's interesting.
	That's cute.
	Adult human female comes to mind.
	Thank you, Monstacoma.
	Appreciate it.
	We went around the table on feminism.
	Oh, McKenzie, I think, okay, you already described favorite big booty angel baby.
	Okay.
	Do you have a BBL?
	Or is it?
	Maddie, okay.
	You live in Miami, right?
	No, I live in Orlando.
	But I'm from North Carolina.
	Shout out.
	What?
	I'm from North Carolina.
	Middle of nowhere, Southern Pines.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Southern Pines now in the middle of nowhere.
	Get some of the best deer in the world.
	But I was raised.
	The best what?
	Some of the best deer to kill in the world.
	How?
	Lots of deer.
	So you live in Orlando.
	How many professional athletes have you dated?
	Zero.
	Zero.
	Really?
	Really?
	Okay.
	All right.
	If you say so.
	Let's see.
	You said your ex didn't want you to be on the podcast.
	So here you are.
	Here I am.
	Here I am.
	Which ex because you said you've been single since.
	The most recent one.
	Or sorry, not April.
	You've been single for eight months.
	Or sorry, no, you've been single for five months.
	My longest relationship was eight months.
	I did not disclose when my last relationship with the author ended, but it was within this year, and it was the most recent one.
	Okay, he didn't want you to be on a podcast.
	Yes.
	Why is that?
	Because you would do what?
	Or say what?
	I don't know.
	I don't know if it was anything specific that I would have said.
	I just don't think he trusted me to answer questions and not look like bad.
	I think so too.
	But I think that's what he feared.
	And he would always fear.
	I don't know.
	I just don't think he was the most in favor of what I did, especially when it came to comments.
	Because honestly, hate comments don't bother me at all.
	But he would see hate comments on me.
	And he would get really upset.
	Sure.
	Even though it's me.
	But yeah, I think he just.
	Men are protectors.
	They don't want.
	Very true.
	Which I understood.
	But I know if I was dating him, I wouldn't feel comfortable coming on a podcast just because of how he would feel.
	But now I feel like I have.
	Okay.
	I feel free to do that.
	You said that how the standards for men are skewed by the media and totally unrealistic.
	What do you mean by that?
	I think kind of what we talked about earlier, that women are gassed up, which I do think women should be confident in their own and you know.
	But I think media has brainwashed us to think that like, oh, you get this, you deserve better, you get this, you deserve better.
	Like, tall, like, makes like a lot of money, especially like the money thing.
	Like, I don't think people realize like how top percentile you have to be in your career to make what these women expect from a man, like a base salary from a man.
	That's great.
	That was fine.
	And I think we should be looking for more than just that.
	Okay.
	And like you said, I think somebody who like matches you earlier.
	You said social media may be the downfall of many relationships.
	Lastly, not dating related, but where the okay, that one's not.
	We don't have to talk about that one.
	But you said how social media may be the downfall of many relationships.
	Yes.
	Would you delete your Instagram for your boyfriend?
	Maybe archive or private or some shit.
	I don't know.
	I think when I reach that phase of my life, I think I will.
	And I think I would regardless if my partner wanted me to or not.
	I just see myself in the future having my personal life fully private.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, yes.
	But you said, I mean, you seem to acknowledge that social media may be the downfall of many relationships.
	Right.
	You should be the change that you see in the world.
	You know what?
	Of the girls here who do OnlyFans, can I convince you tonight to stop doing OnlyFans?
	Any of you?
	You can try.
	Can I convince you to convince me to do it?
	I want you to try.
	Tell you what.
	If any of the girls here agree to stop doing OnlyFans, I will invite you back on the podcast three more times.
	You can start streaming World of Warcraft.
	You're not going to probably make as much money, but that would be more.
	I think that would be, you know, might be more respectable than doing OF.
	So I will support you in your World of Warcraft.
	But what if we don't, are we still invited back on?
	But if you played.
	But if we don't like World of Wars.
	If you play a Druid, it's a no-go.
	Like, I won't support, like, I don't date women who play druids, but like, if you play Priest, I'm down because that's like support class.
	Like, you're a healer.
	Priest, if you play Paladin, cool.
	I don't really like shamans.
	Like, their totems are kind of like whack and shit.
	Like, bro, Paladins are way better than fucking shaman.
	I mean, Wind Fury is cool for like melee if you're a fucking warrior or rogue or whatever.
	Wind Fury is dope, but like Paladins for Pv, I think way better.
	Obviously, PvP, you want to go horde and shit, but like, so I'd prefer, like, if you play DPS, I'd prefer you to be a caster, though.
	Like, I don't want you playing melee, so like, and no hunter, so no hunter, no rogue, no warrior.
	Like, I'm not down for that.
	So just saying.
	So, like, mage, warlock, and then shadow priest is okay, but their DPS is kind of trash, and they have a lot of mana issues.
	Like, they fucking go oom out of mana.
	Like super fucking easy.
	So I'll support you though.
	Like if you guys want to start becoming like play video games on Twitch and shit.
	Good to know.
	I'm down.
	Let's play Fortnite.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Let's play Fortnite.
	What about that?
	So you're saying you will stop.
	Will you stop your OnlyFans if I yeah, if we got like got what?
	What if we got what?
	If I like got really popular on stream on Twitch?
	Yeah.
	Okay, you guys just keep coming back.
	We'll promote your video game streams.
	Would have to like have to have like 26,000 people or more people watching us.
	26 to 300,000 people watching the stream.
	300,000 people.
	You realize that's the top stream?
	No, but that's the highest stream.
	Nicki Minaj just went on Kai's stream.
	Yeah, and they got hit 300,000.
	Yeah, but that's like Nicki Minaj.
	If we want to do this, let's do this, girl.
	Okay.
	For Madison, is that okay?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	And you can totally not answer this if this is like, you know, like crossing anything.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Do you feel like in your experiences with dating, I don't know if you've been in your situation for how long or if it's something that you, you know, but do you feel like you have like, do you feel like girls like will pull away or something because of your situation?
	Like, do you feel like you have that like sort of thing where like what situation?
	Like him in a wheelchair.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it's actually not.
	No, no, it's actually completely regionally based.
	In America, I have never noticed that in the world.
	Actually, in all actuality, I think it, I have, I, I, one, I kind of became a more cool person, but also, like, I fully believe that, like, it's, it's a very disarming thing because, like, you know, I'm sure.
	It's just disarming.
	Whereas I have like increased my ability to like date women since I've been in a wheelchair in America, but in foreign countries and not in the Americas, we're like, you know, they don't have the Americans with Disability Act.
	And like, because you got to think, like, especially when I was running through my very first election, I they ran this attack out of me of they were like, oh, he's just a playboy who like hangs out on beaches all the time and blah blah blah.
	And they just like sent this, they sent to like 300,000 houses this mailer.
	And like the whole front page of it was just a picture of me like drinking out of pineapple shirtless.
	And I was in the best shape of my life of all time.
	And I was like, thank you so much.
	Because like, because like, especially a lot of the older crowd, I was at a very older district.
	You know, like they grew up with people in wheelchairs not being able to do anything.
	And so then when like I've got all these old guys being like, that dude's jacked.
	Oh, he's good.
	And so, but when I go overseas, I've noticed that it's a significant disadvantage.
	Yeah, but aside from that, especially when girls, because like I real, I really, I like, I like buying girls really nice shoes.
	And so, but not really nice shoes always hurt their feet, apparently.
	And so it's great because then they can sit in my lap and then they get like they get tired, they can sit in my lap.
	And no one's like, oh, get a room.
	They're all like, hi, five, you're the man, dude.
	It's great.
	I'm done.
	That's really.
	Would you date a guy in a wheelchair?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	For sure.
	Madison.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Going back to you, do you prefer Kinsey or McKinsey?
	I prefer Kinsey.
	Kinsey.
	Okay.
	You say that you think society is losing traditional values of a relationship and is detrimental to the future of society and ourselves.
	We are separating as men and women more and more.
	I think the single life is glamorized and we are refusing to acknowledge how essential these long-term relationships are for ourselves and future.
	So you said society is losing traditional values.
	Yes.
	Don't you think you're contributing to that by doing OF?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I mean, yeah, there's no doubt about that.
	Okay.
	But do you consider yourself traditional?
	I don't label myself, no.
	Okay.
	So what you're saying is, what you're saying is that you're going to delete your OnlyFans and become a World of Warcraft streamer is what you're saying.
	I'll help you, Kinsey.
	I will help you.
	You help me.
	I really strongly consider it.
	I will, bro.
	I used to be a fucking gamer, like degenerate fuck.
	I haven't played video games since 2020.
	I used to be fucking addicted, literally addicted to World of Warcraft.
	I will, bro, I still know this shit.
	It's in my head, son.
	It's in my head.
	Bro, I'll tell you the best at like the, okay, if you're going to play Warrior and Rogue, right?
	On Alliance, you're going to want to be human because human, they have sword and mace spec, right?
	The racial abilities, right?
	You're going to get plus five weapon skill to sword and mace.
	That's fucking huge, like glancing blows and raids and shit.
	Huge.
	Huge, right?
	Right, Kinsey?
	Very big.
	Very important.
	So big.
	So, yeah, and then like if you're priest, for example, and I think you might want to play priest so you can be a support healer class.
	You're going to want to play dwarf.
	Is it dwarf?
	Yeah, it's dwarf.
	Because a fear ward.
	Fear ward, only dwarf priests get fear ward.
	Very important.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	Now, if you're going to play mage or warlock, I would recommend humans decent, but I'd recommend like Gnome because Gnome has that, like, was it plus five, plus ten to intellect?
	So it's very important.
	But like, definitely, if you're going to be playing Alliance, you want that.
	For sure, you got to get the weapon skill because the best in weapons are swords.
	Do you play video games?
	No, girl.
	I have no idea.
	I've got to just, this is a dating-centric thing.
	I know my questions and comments have not been very dating-centric.
	I apologize.
	All right, you're all good.
	So I have a very close group of friends.
	Like, we all call each other brothers.
	Like, we're all absurdly close.
	So we have a bet that, like, once all of us have, like, a girl that we want to spend like a long time with, like, like, marriage quality, we're going to pick a game, and then we have one week to go.
	So we're going to separately, like, on a date, be like, hey, plan the greatest trip of your life.
	Like, if you could go anywhere, what would you want to do?
	And just have her, like, dream it, make the greatest, like, I want to go to Switzerland.
	I want to jump off a Swiss Alps.
	I want to like then go to Dubai.
	Make them plan.
	All four of them plan like a unique trip.
	But then we tell them, all right, so all four of us, like all eight of us, are going on one of your trips.
	But whoever gets to go, it's the winner of a video game.
	And then we all have a week to train them to see how good they could really get.
	And that's just something I'm very excited for.
	It's beautiful.
	I love that.
	I feel like that would be good.
	Would you guys be down to do a hot tub stream?
	No.
	Let's do it.
	I'm down.
	Me too.
	On your OnlyFans?
	Nope.
	No, here.
	Actually, I did think about doing like a dating talk episode.
	Like do it like a hot tub episode, but, um, that'd be awesome.
	I got a dad bar right now, so I got to get my six-pack back before I even fucking think about taking the shirt off.
	I got a fucking dad, Bob, bro.
	I got to lose weight.
	So once I got to the point.
	What's wrong with it?
	I used to have a six-pack, and now it's gone.
	We're body positive.
	Yeah, what's wrong with it?
	We are not body positive.
	I got to do that.
	I am not.
	If my friends start getting fat, I will be like, you are fat.
	I'm not wearing that.
	So what about the Adam Sailor Bob?
	We're going to do like fake walls.
	So Kinsey, I was going to save Cindy, but I don't know if I can.
	I'm going to save you, Kinsey.
	We're going to fix you.
	You're going to abandon your degenerate hedonistic life in Orlando.
	You're going to delete your OnlyFans.
	You're going to start playing World of Warcraft.
	We're going to set you up on a farmstead here in Santa Barbara.
	Delete you just love this.
	And all that.
	You delete your Instagram, TikTok, OnlyFans.
	Yeah, fuck that shit.
	You'll come with it.
	No more.
	And also, I know he's saying he'll help you guys straight.
	This is something, this is the last thing I'll say.
	If any of you want to pursue a relationship with Christ, like seriously, I won't personally help you one-on-one because that'll get really emotional.
	That's just not.
	But I like, especially for like, I have like two or three phenomenal books for girls that are just so easy to read and just lays it out so beautifully.
	Like, doesn't speak to me at all.
	It's very feminine, but I have heard from like lots of women I respect.
	Like, this is the book to give to a girl.
	And so, anyways, if you just know all the titles off the top of my head, but I don't normally give spiritual counsel to women.
	Looks like I'll be a little bit more.
	I love that you're spiritual.
	Real soon.
	Good times.
	So, let's see.
	We have notes here.
	We did Cindy, we did McKinsey.
	Catherine, 20.
	Okay.
	You're a single mom.
	Good times.
	You said you wanted to talk about dating as a single parent.
	So how have you found that to be?
	Good, bad, neutral?
	Bad.
	Very bad.
	No, not that bad.
	It's just like normal dating, but it's a little bit different because I mean, I could treat it how not as serious, but what I want for my life and my future and my child, I feel like I have to be very rigid with my standards.
	And that could be kind of disappointing sometimes because people are very disingenuous.
	But I feel like everyone experiences that whether they have a child or not.
	Oh, that reminds me.
	Okay.
	Would you object to a guy not wanting to date you because you have a kid?
	Yes.
	For me, that's like a deal breaker.
	Well, of course it's a deal breaker because he wouldn't want to date you.
	But do you think it's wrong for a guy to not want to date you just because you have a kid?
	No, I think that's fun.
	Okay.
	Going around the table on that, do you guys think that's a valid preference for a guy to not want to date a single mother?
	Those of you, I know it's very tight.
	Can some of you try to scoot into the table a little bit?
	Well, not you, but.
	Because then you're just pushing us this way.
	But no, you're good, Madison.
	I just meant most of these girls, but I'm on wheels, man.
	I can go quickly.
	So, one of my friends, he has a kid, so his preference might be dating a woman that has a kid as well.
	I've actually something in common.
	I've actually heard from a lot of women who have kids that they would prefer to date a guy who doesn't have kids.
	I've heard that.
	A lot of limits the variables.
	Yeah.
	Because I can think of a few reasons, but okay.
	Totally going somewhat off topic.
	Related to, I removed the chat, modest to commas chat about what is a woman.
	Would you object to a guy, and this is where it's dating related, would you object to a guy not wanting to date somebody who is transgender?
	Starting with you, Cindy, go ahead.
	Personally, no.
	I wouldn't date anybody that's trans.
	No, but would you object to a man who wouldn't want to date a transgender woman?
	Would you object to that?
	Whatever he likes, everybody has different tastes.
	Preference.
	Yeah.
	Into the mic?
	Yeah, I just said it's preference.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't really care.
	Like, would you think it's discrimination or anything?
	Same.
	No, I would actually prefer it if he wasn't attracted to transgender people, like, just heterosexual.
	Yeah, I agree.
	No, I don't object.
	Yeah, I think it's preference.
	I agree with what she said.
	We all agree.
	It's good.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	So for my thing, what people, again, especially from like talk.
	Holy shit.
	I thought you grabbed the wrong cup.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Oh, we're never talking again.
	The actually, you know, it's funny.
	Trans people.
	You know what's funny.
	Deborah, on that episode with Chase, spit in his cup and he drank it.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think.
	Granted, she wasn't that.
	What's it called?
	The shoe?
	The zin?
	Okay, she didn't have...
	It was like snooze.
	Actually, wait, no.
	I think I have it reversed.
	Chase.
	She might have drank his zin.
	I don't remember.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Yeah, so my whole thing on it is, like, I think that from a government perspective, I don't think the government should get involved.
	From a personal perspective, I like, you know, bullying is not good, especially when we drive people to want to kill themselves, all this stuff.
	But there needs to be some amount of shame that's added on to when people are just destroying the norms of culture.
	Because you look at the fall of the four greatest civilizations in all of history, whether it's the Byzantines, which were technically Romans, or whether it was the Romans, whether it was certain dynasties in China, whether it was the Ottoman Empire.
	At the end of those, the last 100 years, you saw the cultural norms just being eroded on every level, whether it was gender, whether it was government buildings, whether it was how you carried yourself, whether it was how you ate, whether it was how you dressed.
	People trying to destroy all those cultural norms to where you don't even know what truth means anymore.
	And it's just terrible.
	And so I think that we should be like, no, dude, being trans is really weird.
	That's like a mental thing.
	And it's like, it's gender dysphoria.
	And, you know, we used to treat that as like something we wanted to cure.
	Now, what I have a really big problem with in our society is we are pushing like a 0.5%, even if it's, I don't even know if it's that, 0.5% of our population as if they are the most important, most dominant thing in the world.
	And when you're trying to shove stuff down my throat, I don't like it.
	Like, if I'm not going to go sit outside like a mosque and sit there and like go inside and get it.
	Hold up.
	No, Okay, we got Mike Wright here with the Canadian 70.
	Madison, do you believe in freedom of religion for Satan worshipers?
	How about Freemasons?
	You seem like quite a tolerant fellow.
	Do you believe tolerance to be a Christian virtue?
	Sorry, guys.
	We're getting into TLS territory, so I just had to.
	Copy that.
	So I do not believe that I serve a tolerant God in the slightest.
	I think he is a just God.
	I think that he offers forgiveness to everybody because of Christ.
	That didn't used to be the situation.
	That's why we're so thankful for him.
	That's why we give, like, that's why we honor Jesus Christ and because he is God.
	I do not believe in freedom of religion for Satan worshipers.
	I think Satan is the epitome of evil.
	He's here to lead us into the darkness and destroy us.
	But I do believe in the freedom of religion for just about everybody else.
	Reason being is because I believe in a fair and open contest, the truth will win out every single time.
	And I think that I believe in the spiritual realm more than I believe in the physical realm.
	And so, you know, like I think that there are good forces and evil forces out there.
	Like, I think you need to be on guard for that kind of stuff.
	Like, when people are like, oh, I had a dream and like someone was talking to me about saying, oh, just give us your soul and you'll be good to go.
	I'm like, no, you like literally had an encounter with a demon.
	Like, you need to be prepared for that.
	And, you know, the Bible instructs us on how to fight in a spiritual warfare.
	But, you know, so I believe in freedom of religion for everyone aside from Satan worshipers.
	They are worshiping my enemy and I will fight them on everything.
	And also, shout out to the guy who decapitated the satanic statue inside, I think, the Iowa State Capital.
	Oh, nice.
	Okay.
	Going back to you, Catherine, you said that you've broken into.
	Oh, you're good.
	Don't even, don't worry.
	Yeah, you've tell us that story.
	The broken into what?
	Yeah, so I feel like I already knew coming onto this panel, I wanted to be very honest and stuff.
	And I feel like I've learned a lot, especially becoming a single mom.
	And I feel like I can look back at my behavior and be like, I was unhinged.
	Like, there were issues.
	So I've had like two situations where I've broken into my boyfriend's houses before.
	And I thought it was normal.
	Like, I thought it wasn't odd, but I'm literally breaking and entering.
	Like, that's why did you do that?
	A little lighthearted BE.
	Well, one of them, he wasn't replying to me.
	Are you able to scoot into the table a little bit?
	So, hold on.
	So, one of the guys, you broke into his house because he wasn't replying to you.
	And I felt silly because once I opened the window.
	Is that a felony, by the way?
	And crawled in.
	He was playing video games.
	Oh, that's how you did it.
	It's a yikes.
	Can I add a comment on that?
	Yeah.
	Just a really quick one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I think if your girl's not a little bit crazy, a little bit crazy, I don't think she really loves you anymore.
	Breaking and entering is way too crazy.
	That's a little too crazy.
	But your girl should want you so bad that she's like, but like, you know, she should trust you and honor you and be respectful to you and submit to you.
	But like, you know.
	I don't like crazy.
	I like calm.
	Mellow.
	Yeah, and I agree.
	And I feel like it says a lot about the woman acting like that.
	It says a lot about her.
	What was the second break-in?
	Well, that was actually the second break.
	The second felony.
	That was the second break-in.
	The first break-in.
	Excuse me, go ahead.
	It was another boyfriend.
	And with him, he was still living with his parents.
	So I hopped the fence to get to the house.
	And then I had to break into the doggy door.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	You crawled.
	And then I broke in.
	You crawled in.
	Yeah, like I put my hand inside and I unlocked the door.
	Yo, you crazy.
	You are crazy.
	That's not what I mean.
	Did you think he was like cheating on you?
	Is that?
	No, no, I needed help.
	Finding my phone or something?
	So, okay, my phone, it was lost.
	That's a deal breaker for me.
	My girl comes by my spot.
	In the doggy door.
	Like, uninvited, breaking into the phone.
	So I was like freaking out because my phone was like gone, right?
	So I was trying to look for my phone.
	Are you the type of chick that's like, if the dude doesn't respond to you within like 30 minutes, you're like, she broke in because the guy was playing video games.
	That's why I'm like, why aren't you responding to me?
	Yeah.
	Okay, wait.
	Can I ask one question?
	Qualifying question?
	It seems like you were unrealistically concerned about your phone being missing.
	Why were you concerned about its contents and that he might have them in his home?
	No, it was because I was, no, I was out with my friends.
	And keep in mind, like, I was driving with them.
	So then it was like in her car.
	But I thought I had lost it.
	Gotcha.
	So I was just scared.
	Like, oh, where's my phone?
	So then I went to his house because I just like, I needed help.
	I was just trying to get help.
	And he didn't really react any switch way.
	He was just like, were they cool with you breaking in?
	No.
	I mean, they didn't find out.
	Oh, they didn't know?
	No.
	Because I broke in and I just like went into his room.
	Oh, so like, so you basically like had access to the home.
	You just, the door was locked.
	Yeah.
	That's kind of dumb.
	Uh-oh.
	That's like she just didn't have a key and like found it.
	It's still a little bit of a drawing.
	I mean, it's still a little crazy here.
	It's breaking and entering.
	Yes.
	I have to own that.
	Would you do that now?
	No.
	I would never do that.
	You, okay, so then you, have you done any other crazy shit like slash tires?
	No, I've never slashed tires.
	Have you ever gotten revenge on the boyfriend?
	No.
	Going around the table for all the girls here, have any of you slashed a dude's tires?
	Going around?
	No.
	Anybody?
	Show of hands, maybe?
	Show of hands?
	Any tire slashers?
	Have any of you gotten revenge?
	Oh, you did?
	No, but it's happened to me.
	Oh, it happened to you?
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Have any of you, have any of you gotten revenge on the boyfriend in some sort of way?
	No.
	By leveling up.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	How did you get revenge?
	Into the mic?
	I wouldn't say revenge.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	I wouldn't say revenge, I guess.
	I don't know.
	I just, I got better without him.
	What did you do?
	I got a new job, bought a new car.
	Oh, you know, I mean, that's basic stuff.
	Yeah, that's not really.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	You also said modern dating has become very warped with modern society.
	Most people are very stuck in their ego, and it gets in the way of true connection.
	Yeah.
	Oh, because, and me saying that, you were saying this one point about yourself, how you want a girl to kind of be all about you, right?
	Yeah.
	I kind of feel like from what I've kind of experienced with going on dates and stuff, I do get that energy kind of from guys.
	Like they want me to really show them I'm really about them.
	But it's a little bit like contradictory to me because I want them to pursue me.
	And then I feel like once I see their effort in pursuing me, I can reciprocate that affection that they're looking for.
	But I feel like straight off the bat, the guys are kind of like, okay, show me how much you like me.
	And I just don't like doing that because I just feel a man should pursue.
	Yes, so do I.
	But I think it's a man's ego because everyone's out here thinking, oh, we deserve the best.
	You're number one.
	Love yourself.
	You're awesome.
	And guys are having that too, which is great.
	But it's almost like an ego thing because they don't want to get hurt.
	So then they can't really be like vulnerable and show that side to the woman.
	And actually pursue it.
	But that kind of whole thing you're talking about where guys are getting that too.
	It's a feminine trait.
	Like this whole like self-belief thing is a feminine trait.
	Like guys, we should be brutal with ourselves.
	Like the way you hear me talk, like when I speak out loud, I'm like, oh, I am great.
	I'm good at this.
	All affirmations.
	But in my head, I am like so critical of the littlest things.
	Like, oh, I stuttered on the word but 16 sentences ago in a three-hour speech.
	And I'm like, well, that means I just got to go do like 700 push-ups and just torture myself.
	Dude, and I honestly feel like it's not to be like anti-feminist or whatever.
	No, be feminine.
	But I low-key feel like feminism has been pushed so freaking much that it's caused like a lack of masculinity in men.
	Like it's like, okay, like there was a point where, okay, women weren't getting equal jobs or equal pay, but now it's like, okay, they're getting equal jobs and equal pay, but now it's like they feel like they need to take over and like not enough men are getting jobs now or not enough men are, you know, so it like contradicts the fact where it's like women want the men to be the women want the men to pay and stuff, but it's like also like if you are the type of girl to be like, oh, feminism and like da da da da,
	and then want that when you're like want his job or want, you know what I mean?
	Like, not that you shouldn't, but like, it's like now it's caused a lack of, like, now men feel more feminine and they're put in places where there's so much feminine energy where it's like they forget that all the traditional and like whatever, how it was.
	So I feel like it's honestly because of the movement that you're right.
	You're 100% right.
	Feminism is to blame for all the ills that are facing society.
	I 100% agree with you.
	You're super fucking based.
	Feminism is toxic.
	It was super fucking.
	Feminism is toxic for men and women.
	It's absolutely disastrous to society and to men and to relationships.
	And to kids, into boys.
	I 100% co-sign.
	I 100% co-sign.
	Moving on with Catherine here.
	You said one time you were making out with a guy and I saw a micro pen and the guy acted like it was big.
	After that, I had to go.
	And that's when I discovered that I would not be able to do a small penis.
	Question though.
	If you said he acted like it was big.
	Yes.
	If he didn't act like it was big, would you still have been cool?
	So I think if he would have presented himself in a more modest way, it wouldn't have been as big of a turnoff.
	And I feel like I could have been able to, you know, level with him as a human.
	Right.
	Because I'm not perfect.
	Nobody here is perfect.
	Yeah.
	But I think it was more just, oh, the way it was presented to me that I was just like, you're not going to make me stupid.
	Was he erect?
	Yeah, I was like, or is it, because some guys are, are, what's it called?
	The growth.
	They're growers, not showers.
	It was, it was.
	So sometimes flaccid can be not that big.
	I mean, it's the smallest one I've ever seen.
	I don't know if.
	Here, show us with your finger.
	No, no, no, no.
	Show us.
	Like this.
	How big?
	It was probably a little bit bigger than that.
	No, so you show.
	So I know what you're talking about.
	Maybe like this.
	Wait, show it to the camera.
	Maybe like that.
	That's small to you?
	That's like five.
	I've seen one like this.
	That's like average.
	No, that was like hard, though.
	Wait, can you show us that?
	Bro, that's not.
	No, no, no.
	Do to the camera again.
	Do it to the camera.
	No, no, no, hold it up.
	Hold it up.
	High, high, high, high.
	There you go.
	Not even the two fingers.
	This is small.
	That is small.
	That's a ruler, but that's like four or five inches.
	Yeah, that's not a micro penis.
	Not a micro, but it's on the smaller side.
	It's slight, that looks like slightly below average.
	Yeah.
	This girl's just been fucking dudes with giant dicks like this.
	All the other dicks afterwards.
	This is why you don't want like to, I mean, this is why body count is.
	This is why body count matters because, like you, you land on a dude like who's super fucking.
	No well, there's a lot of reasons.
	All we were doing was making out he wanted it initiated.
	He just took off his pants.
	And the reason why I said like he was proud of it because he he like whipped it out, he said.
	He said touch it.
	Oh wait, that's not, that's.
	Hold on, were you guys starting Starting to get into a state of undress?
	No, we were just like making out, like heavy making out.
	Okay, question.
	Like, try to be totally unbiased here.
	Were you up until the micro penis, which it's not even the micro penis, were you like DTF?
	Be honest.
	Were you down to fuck?
	Yeah.
	So it's, I don't think it's out of the, like, if you were DTF, you were down.
	It was heading in that direction.
	He's maybe a little cocky with it, but I feel like it wasn't the most tactical.
	Don't you want a guy to be confident, though?
	You don't want the guy to be like, oh my God, I'm so insecure about my dick.
	Blah, It's disrespectful.
	Like, I mean, number one, it was just disrespectful for you to just whip out your penis and say, touch it.
	That's so disrespectful.
	That's so weird.
	Yeah.
	Girls will say that shit.
	Girls will say, oh, that's so disrespectful.
	And want a guy to fucking drag you by your hair, slam you up against the fucking wall, kiss you deeply and passionately, talk all kinds of dirty shit into your ear, fucking bend you up.
	Like, come on, bro.
	Most girls like, come on, bro.
	It's disrespectful.
	It is.
	It is.
	You were down to fuck, so like, come on.
	Yeah, but I don't need to interrupt.
	Can I get some water?
	Yeah.
	Okay, Cindy.
	There's more in the third.
	I feel thirsty.
	Can you get her some water?
	Yeah, like I said, I think it was more just the way it was presented, and I think it just kills the whole vibe from it.
	So maybe as before.
	Okay, so you wanted to.
	But you wanted it to be more of like a more gradual, slow buildup.
	You felt it was too like.
	Like if you pulled it out.
	Yeah, and then it was almost more cringy because actually, you know what?
	I want to walk back to the statement.
	I'm not proud.
	I see what I want to walk it back a little bit.
	I actually, if it's like just way too like, if there wasn't this sort of gradual buildup, I can guy, especially if it's your first time.
	Yeah.
	I can get that.
	I get that.
	I get that.
	Yeah.
	If he just was like, you're just making out, your clothes are still on, and he's just like, exactly.
	I get it.
	Okay, I get it.
	I just felt very awkward because I think as a man, you want to make them feel like, you know, you like their penis.
	They are going to feel good about that when you make them feel that way.
	And I can't just fake it and be like, oh, wow.
	Shit, I mean, every girl I sleep with has the best pussy ever.
	I want to know what you said when he did that, though.
	Like, did you just awkwardly be like, I think my face probably wasn't.
	Like, did he put it back?
	Like, wait, if he had.
	I didn't touch it.
	I should not touch it.
	If he had had a giant schlong, would the move have gone over better, you think?
	Honestly, that's right.
	It was just like fucking anaconda, like just a fucking.
	Maybe.
	I'm going to be honest.
	Maybe.
	Sorry, Madison.
	But only because at that point.
	It's not the same thing, though.
	Like, pull that out.
	Well, that's what I'm talking about.
	I'm like, don't pull it out like you're so proud.
	And it's like, like, maybe don't lead with that.
	Yeah.
	We weren't there, so I don't know like how cocky he was being.
	But I can definitely see if he was being like kind of a little too cocky about it.
	Yeah.
	It's like, I don't know how to act because do you want me to keep hyping you up?
	Like, oh, yeah.
	Like, I'm not going to do that.
	Especially when you didn't initiate for him to take it out.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, he just pulled it out.
	Actually, no tact.
	Wait, fuck.
	Do I want to reveal this?
	I don't know.
	No, no, no, no.
	Tell me.
	Yeah, you do.
	Don't spill the tea.
	Look, I think I'm really modest in that department.
	Like, I would, fuck it, bro.
	I don't give a fuck.
	I feel like I have got an average penis, right?
	And, like, I actually, like, if I'm with a girl, yeah, this shit's kind of funny.
	If I'm with a girl and she's like, it's so big, I'm like, bitch, shut the fuck up.
	No, it's not.
	I'm like, bro, it's average.
	I don't want you to tell me it's big, bro.
	Just say it's average, dude.
	I know it's fucking average.
	I don't want a girl to be like, oh, yeah, it's average.
	No, no, I don't want to.
	I don't want her to say anything about my penis.
	Like, what do you want to say?
	But it's like, I don't want it.
	It's not actually the crazy.
	No, I don't want her to say it's an average penis.
	It's just like, I don't have a big dick.
	Don't tell me I have a big dick.
	It's fucking, I've got an average penis.
	I've got an average penis.
	It's like a guy telling a girl, oh my gosh, her boobs are just so huge.
	Yeah, I hate that.
	I mean, she might have small boobs.
	They might be nice boobs.
	Like, I like small boobs.
	Small boobs are cool.
	Big boobs are cool too.
	But, like, yeah, if I'm in bed with a girl and she's like, oh my god, it's so big.
	I'm like, shut the fuck up, you liar.
	You know?
	Because some average girls are tight.
	Sometimes they're, look, they're tight, whatever they're.
	Yeah.
	And it's big to them.
	It's a motion of the ocean.
	Also, I will say, also, I will not say, like, well, here's the crazy thing.
	And we were kind of talking about how a lot of the girls here haven't come with most of the guys they've been with.
	I will say that I think that the women's orgasm response is much more varied than men's orgasm response.
	And like, I think, like, granted, some men can be very different.
	But for example, I think the spectrum of, like, for example, I've been with a girl who can come within five seconds and she can have multiples and she can squirt.
	And it's like, I barely have to do anything and then I'm fucking spoiled, right?
	And it's literally, I'm not even exaggerating.
	Literally, like, I enter her and she's coming.
	Wow.
	Sorry, Madison.
	Or like, literally, three strokes, boom, she's already came.
	And then she keeps fucking, it's insane.
	And then you'll have other girls who you'll do the most for.
	She can't even come from like vaginal, like penetrative sex.
	You got to get toys involved.
	You got to fucking get like carpal tunnel syndrome on your hand and shit.
	Like, fuck, bro, it's hard, dude.
	I'd be trying to make some of these chicks come.
	I'm like, fuck, my hand hurts.
	Hello?
	It's because I feel like with men, it's more just about sensation, but with women, it's like sensation and mental.
	It's more.
	That's right.
	That's why you got to like pull her fucking hair and be in her ear and just talking all kinds of fucking filth.
	Okay, never mind.
	Oh my god.
	Good girl.
	What?
	Very freaky.
	Huh?
	Very freaky.
	No, this is this is like vanilla shit.
	This is pretty vanilla shit.
	Wow.
	What was I saying?
	What was that?
	Something about peanut.
	I don't know.
	That orgasm is very.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, I mean, my goal was sex.
	At least for me, my goal was sex.
	Like, I want to make my girl come before me.
	And if she can, multiple times before me.
	Can you tell everyone to be that way?
	Well, like, my view is: is like, like, I'll get these guys that don't.
	Because, okay, obviously, one, you want to please your partner.
	You want to make sure that your partner's satisfied.
	And then even if I, let's say I approach it from a really selfish point of view, if I make my girl come before me, like, not all girls are going to be like this, but she's going to be like ravenous afterwards.
	Like, if she's calm, if she's ravenous, ravenous.
	And also, like, from a purely selfish perspective, let's say I'm having sex with her and she's coming while I'm inside of her.
	That feels really fucking good.
	Cream powder.
	Sorry, Madison.
	Wait, what?
	No.
	That feels good.
	And she's going to get super fucking wet.
	So if I want to be totally selfish for my own pleasure, you should want your girl to come either before you fuck her or during.
	That's my view.
	Even.
	Does it give you pleasure when she comes?
	It turns me on.
	Yeah, it turns me on.
	And I want her to.
	Why is it everywhere?
	But it's not, it's not.
	There is a selfish component of like, it feels better for me.
	But I do want to please my girl.
	Like, I want her to get off.
	Again, before me, so you can do that with hands, you can do that with toys, penis, if you can.
	Sometimes it's hard, though.
	Sometimes the penis doesn't do it.
	And you know, most girls don't actually know that they're orgasm.
	So some girls can't come, or it's really hard.
	Most girls can't.
	Especially from inner, like just purely sexual intercourse.
	It's so normal.
	So for a long time, I was like, why is this not happening to me?
	Some girls can't even come with toys.
	Yeah, no.
	If she can't come with toys, you're not good.
	Good luck.
	And it's just a normal thing.
	I feel like no one should feel like it.
	No, I agree, though.
	I think there's definitely dudes.
	I mean, if you're engaging in casual sex, though, a lot of these guys probably aren't.
	They're more focused.
	The crazy, even if I was like having a one-not that I like one-night stands, because if I have sex with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
	Like any girl that I want to have sex with, I want to continue seeing her.
	I don't know if that makes me like an outlier.
	Like most dudes are trying to hit and quit it.
	I think that's a waste of time.
	But like, I would want, I would still, even in the one-night stand situation, which I don't like, I would still want to make the girl come.
	So, anyways, good times.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Very good times.
	Good.
	Good chance.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So.
	But it was a micro penis, huh?
	I think it was.
	Guys, the size matters.
	Wait.
	Yes.
	Wait, going around the table, does size matter?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Hard, yes.
	Size queen's over here.
	Go ahead.
	It's okay.
	You need a nine-incher weekend.
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Yes.
	For me, as long as it's not a micro-penis and you know how to use it, then size doesn't matter.
	I go with what she just said.
	And y'all were shaming.
	Y'all got penis preferences.
	I have labia preferences.
	Your micro-penis is still considered a dick, so.
	Right?
	I don't know.
	You're so quick with that.
	Yeah, it's a, you know, it's a skill.
	I will say, actually, wait, question for you.
	So did you, like, did you walk out in that moment?
	No, like, I waited like a little bit after.
	Wait, did you guys fuck?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	No, no, no.
	I'm telling you, after that, it killed the vibe.
	Oh, it killed the vibe.
	So we kind of stopped making out for a little bit, and then I was just like, I think I'm going to go home.
	You guys probably thought about that every day.
	I never saw him after that.
	Yeah, I never thought about that for a long time.
	Rip.
	And that's the thing.
	Again, I'm not trying to shame him to be like, oh, but it's the way it was presented to me more than anything else.
	I mean, once you really explained it, it sounded pretty non-tactful.
	Good shit.
	Good shit.
	Okay, we have Salem here.
	She wants to talk more about her PayPs, 1 million total bankrupted guy.
	Oh, no, okay, not going to talk about that one.
	Oh, your OnlyFans says that you're a goofy Switch who also likes to experiment with kinks.
	Yes.
	I am a Switch.
	Also in your Olympics, it says you do threesomes, girl, girl, boy girl, solo content, toy play, cream pies, facials, BDSM content.
	Actually, I haven't done that yet, but which one?
	Cream pies, facials.
	It says I'm meaning to do that, but I haven't posted that.
	The FTC fucking get her for false advertising.
	Hello?
	Bro, these girls, oh, yeah, I do cream pie.
	Can I answer that?
	She can.
	Whenever she wants to.
	I don't like talking about my sex life in public forums.
	That's fine.
	That's fucking.
	I'm from the South.
	Okay.
	Good Christian Salem Joel.
	But what is the recruitment process for guys for yourself?
	Do you just walk around like, dude, you?
	Congratulations.
	No, no, no, no.
	Ever since I started it, I was in a relationship and I've only been with one guy or filmed with one guy.
	I would never film with other guys.
	Sorry, my bad.
	Wait, so on your OF though, you have done threesomes?
	With girls.
	Oh, with girls?
	Yeah.
	Like three, so three girls total?
	Uh, yeah.
	You've done girl-girl content?
	Yes.
	Well, duh, Brian.
	Okay.
	Boy-girl content?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But not the cream pies and facials, even though it's listed.
	I just have not yet posted them because I'm still like.
	Okay.
	False advertising.
	Okay, good times.
	You do custom videos, picks, sexting sessions, dick rates.
	You rate dicks?
	Your dick rater?
	Okay.
	Is it on a one to ten scale?
	I thought all dicks are tens.
	Or wait, what?
	Are all dicks tens?
	No?
	No.
	I thought.
	Okay.
	You said tips get priority messages.
	Oh, you're going to Dubai for six months.
	We talked about that.
	Oh, hey, go to Charmal Sheikh.
	It's like they have a free flight over in Egypt.
	It's phenomenal.
	Have you bankrupted any guys since your last appearance?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	Did you say bankrupt a million?
	What?
	Who said that?
	Oh, so she was previously on the show, and she has like PayPigs that pay her or whatever.
	And I think the total amount that she's made, allegedly, from her PayPs and Sugar Daddies is over a million dollars.
	And you're 19, right?
	20.
	Oh, 20.
	So would you just consider that like off of OnlyFans, or would you like how do you differentiate if it's between like PayPs?
	I think it doesn't even matter.
	Well, no, when they asked me that question, it was like Sugar Daddies, PayPigs.
	So everything.
	Yeah, OnlyFans included.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Literally, like a dude who just a PayP is a dude who just like sends girls money for pretty much nothing.
	Yeah, and they get pleasure out of it.
	It's such a wild world.
	Life on Easy Meet to me.
	I have just never.
	That's wild.
	Actually, let's go around the table on this.
	So just since people who are watching now might not be familiar with everything you said, Salem, in total, you've made a million from like simps and PayPs and Sugar Daddies just sending you money, correct?
	What was the highest amount that you've ever been paid in one transaction?
	I wouldn't really like to talk about like payments and like amounts.
	Well, I think you did before last time.
	Yeah, no, but yeah, but it was a million total.
	I'm like, yeah, I just don't really like want to like.
	But okay, has one guy.
	There's been multiple guys who have sent you over six figures total, correct?
	No, not one guy, but I've made six figures off like paypal.
	Collectively, like collectively.
	Well, no, you've made seven figures collectively.
	One million dollars.
	Well, yeah, like collectively.
	But there's one, there's, it sounded to me, I could, if I'm recalling this incorrectly.
	Again, well, maybe I'll.
	There's been some guys, there's some guys who have sent you over $100,000 total.
	No, well, no, $30,000.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	Going around the table, do you have any PayPs or Sugar Daddies currently?
	No, I just do OnlyFans.
	And Playboy, actually, too.
	I do Playboy.
	Playboy Centerfold.
	Yeah, I do.
	I'm proud of you, Cindy.
	Yeah.
	Congrats.
	Thank you.
	You're a legend.
	Can't anybody just create one of those Playboy Centerfold pages?
	No, you need an invite.
	Playboy asked me what.
	Oh, they have to invite you?
	So you just email them, like, can I get a Playboy Centerfold or they DM me?
	You can apply me.
	You can apply.
	You can apply.
	Okay.
	Going around the table, Sugar Daddies.
	I'm not Sugar Daddies right now, PayPigs, though.
	You got PayPs?
	Tell us a bit about that.
	Tell you what about it.
	Well, like, what's the degree to which they're being pay pigs?
	How much are they, like, what's the most you ever got in one transaction?
	I'm also not going to discuss that either.
	So, but they pay small amounts over a period of time.
	And whenever I ask.
	How about can you provide like total you've made?
	I'd rather not.
	Seven figures more?
	I'd rather not.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Any sugar daddies or pay pigs or any dudes sending you 500 bucks for feet pics?
	That kind of weird shit.
	No offense, dudes, but that shit's kind of weird.
	Any sugar daddies, pay pigs?
	Here and there, but they're taking a picture of the page.
	Have you ever sent feet pics?
	Of course.
	Have you ever sent feet pics?
	Hell no.
	I mean, I do only fancy.
	Before Cindy, you've sent feet pics.
	Yeah.
	Send the asteroid, boys.
	Send the asteroid.
	Sending.
	Oh, shit.
	Boom.
	Madison almost saved us there.
	What's up, boys?
	Feet pics?
	You send feet pics?
	Yes.
	Haram.
	Okay.
	Hoorah.
	Hold on.
	You're okay.
	No.
	Any pay pigs or sugar daddies?
	No.
	What about you?
	Before, yeah.
	Before?
	Yeah, but okay, so.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	I've had.
	During that, like, how does it go?
	Can you do it?
	Can you do it?
	No, I cannot.
	I'm above that now.
	It was that period.
	It's cute.
	I think it's so cute.
	Are you kidding me?
	I started doing that when Bella Porch, is that her name?
	Yeah, like that.
	She made it like a trend.
	She made it like, and then I did it.
	And for some reason, people were like, oh, yeah.
	Bella Porch show.
	So you had the shirt sugar daddy.
	Yeah, I asked her.
	You had a couple sugar daddies?
	Okay, I've had two at the same time.
	Okay.
	But nothing like really major.
	Nothing major.
	They would, but I had plenty of people with like ask me for feet pics.
	Someone would ask for like.
	Would you send them?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	You have.
	Yeah.
	I have.
	For how much?
	What's the cost?
	Feet pics.
	Well, it's kind of strange.
	Somebody wanted a feet picture for $500, and I was like, it's $500 for a shoe.
	$500?
	Yeah.
	Hey, yo, Madison, how much for you to sell feet pics?
	I just.
	You wouldn't do it?
	I just wouldn't do it.
	Someone said $30,000.
	$30,000.
	You would not do it.
	What not?
	Salem over here wants to pay you $30,000 for feet pics.
	A picture of my foot.
	Yep.
	Yeah, man.
	No, I just don't know.
	You wouldn't do it?
	I can't get on board.
	You wouldn't do it?
	No, it's not.
	It's not like you're dick.
	No, no, I completely understand that.
	It's just like you have to, like, I have to imagine, like, what's going to be the downside?
	Like, it's going to be a political article, Madison College.
	I'm sorry.
	But Madison, are you saying there's not no number?
	That could buy you.
	Oh, absolutely.
	There's a number.
	Okay, so a million dollars.
	Yeah, a million dollars?
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	Also, I want to make something clear.
	When I had the two sugar daddies, I wasn't like doing anything like that.
	Yeah, you're just extracting money from them.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Same.
	No, actually, no, no, no, no.
	That's what a sugar daddy is.
	I mean, they would only want to have a conversation with you.
	A lot of money, right?
	Yeah.
	What was the cost?
	It was cheap.
	I was not that type.
	I was like.
	50 bucks for 20 minutes?
	No.
	I would often have like a set.
	Yeah, like it's not like a set.
	Yeah.
	If they would say something like an extra, like a lot amount of money, I'd be like, no, like, you don't need to do that.
	Like, I would do $20 just for a phone conversation, you know?
	Okay.
	So I would say.
	Wait, $200?
	$20.
	Oh, $20.
	Yeah, I wasn't going to do that.
	God bumped them prices.
	No, I wasn't trying to.
	I wasn't trying to, like, just.
	I'm not a ticker, you know.
	I don't like using people, so I was just like, sweet.
	What about you?
	Any sugar daddies?
	Paypigs?
	None.
	Well, you're currently dating dudes who just like get you food, get you, smoke you out.
	Yeah.
	So they're kind of sick.
	I don't think that counts as like a sugar daddy.
	What is that cost?
	Like smoking.
	Where'd you go?
	Cheesecake factory?
	Red lobster?
	Where are you going?
	Where's she going?
	Yeah, weed's expensive at the dispensary.
	They tax, there's really high taxes.
	Do you just get it from the locals?
	No, I go to the dispo.
	No.
	Salem, Salem.
	Oh, I think we already went over Salem's stuff.
	What about you, Annie?
	Pay pigs, sugar daddies?
	Okay.
	No.
	Have you ever had a sugar mama, Madison?
	No.
	Are you down?
	Are you down for like a sugar mama?
	It depends, like, what it means.
	What if she just got you a bunch of sand?
	What if she's like, yo, I'll try to get her?
	Freeze in for lunch.
	Talk to her about Christ or whatever.
	I mean, she basically.
	Yo, all the fucking sugar mamas in the chat, you gotta fucking DM Madison right now and he's gonna talk to you about Jesus.
	Religion.
	Brian, I'm sure you've gotten like a DM or something of someone being like, so this is working our sugar.
	No, you know what?
	I actually, I have not had a proper sugar mama offer.
	What about a guy?
	I mean, I've had girls offer to like take me on dates and shit.
	Or like girls who are like down to fly out to come and see me, but I've never had a girl who's like, let me financially support you.
	What about that?
	Because I'm sure you got...
	Really?
	I haven't had a, no.
	I feel like what is it?
	Maybe one dude.
	I've maybe had one dude.
	And I get financially supportive.
	I guess it's like my name.
	Oh, shit.
	You get like ADs.
	And there's also like log cabin Republicans, which is like a big thing.
	What's that?
	It's just like a bad thing.
	Would you say your name is like a unisex?
	Oh, no, I've got a girl's name.
	Okay.
	So my dad had a boy named Suit Philosophy.
	Madison's had a really cute name though.
	Yeah, it's great.
	I love my name.
	I would not give up my name for anything.
	I'm waiting for the sugar mamas.
	Where are the fucking sugar mamas?
	But would you actually accept money from them?
	Why do you have a good mama?
	This is like equality.
	Yeah, I'm super down to do a role reversal on this.
	As a chick, you want to send me free money?
	But what would you do in return?
	Mm-hmm.
	All the willing to do.
	All the shit that women don't do for the sugar daddies that they have.
	What do you mean?
	What would I do?
	Everything?
	Yeah.
	Huh?
	No, what I'm saying is, like, a lot of y'all do nothing and get all this money.
	I would equally do nothing.
	And yes, you can send me money if you want.
	Because we don't do nothing.
	No, yeah, you talk to us.
	It's just no relationship.
	But it's nothing all the time.
	Doesn't that go against your traditional colours?
	Fee picks is like 7K.
	If you want my feet pics, that's 7K.
	You can't make 7K.
	Yeah, I'm expensive.
	Wow.
	Sorry, ladies.
	Yeah, I know my word.
	I know my word.
	I actually think Salem over here, like, kind of, you need, like, for, I don't know if the right word is, retribution.
	Salem, you have to be, like, this is the circle of, the simp circle of life.
	Salem, you have to be my sugar mama to make up for all the like pay pigs that you have.
	Are you down?
	Actually, you know what's crazy?
	Like, in Japan, I don't know if you guys know with Japan how there's these, like a lot of the women who are prostitutes, they in turn, maybe it's from the trauma or whatever.
	They will go to these host clubs where they pay men to sort of be their boyfriends.
	Oh, yeah, you can rent like a girlfriend, a boyfriend.
	Isn't that like an escort?
	Well, no, the hosts don't even really sleep with them.
	They just like give them attention.
	You can literally just be someone to take out on a date.
	But what I'm saying is, ladies, all of you girls who do OnlyFans here, like I'm here to be your emotional support.
	Just pay me a full-time.
	So if I were your sugar mama, you'll be my emotional support.
	How much you pay me?
	Would you get him a vest?
	Like, do not.
	Depends on how good your sessions are.
	Your therapy sessions are.
	I'm great.
	I'm super good.
	I'm super good, but I'm expensive.
	We'll see how good.
	I'm expensive, Salem.
	But this is the simp circle of life.
	I'm a drama, so we'll see.
	I don't like crying.
	I don't like crying.
	Can I ask one big question?
	Girls who have an OnlyFans, did you guys have any super traumatic thing that happened?
	I don't want to know what it is.
	Have you had a big traumatic incident in your life?
	Hasn't everybody?
	No.
	Or like, are you?
	I don't know.
	So now you're married in.
	Hold on.
	It's going to get bad.
	But Salem, since we've been talking for you a little bit, Salem, I will save you.
	I will fix you.
	You're going to abandon your degenerate hedonistic life in Los Angeles?
	Are you in LA?
	Where do you live?
	Orange County.
	You're going to abandon your degenerate hedonistic life in Orange County.
	You're not going to go to Dubai.
	You're going to delete your OnlyFans.
	Well, here's your favorite.
	I will be your sugar mama.
	You're going to be my sugar mama.
	I'll be your sugar baby.
	How are we going to give you money if we can't do OnlyFans?
	That's true.
	Okay, continue your family.
	Are you going to save all of us?
	As long as I'm your sugar fans.
	All of you who do OnlyFans except for you.
	Cindy, I will be your sugar baby.
	I'll be your sugar baby.
	I'll be your sugar baby.
	No, but OnlyFans is when I go to the Middle East, I completely stop my OnlyFans.
	Exactly.
	But I'll be here for you.
	I'll be here for longer.
	I'll be here for you.
	I'll hold it down.
	I'm going to hold it down, Salem.
	I'm going to hold it down.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	I can't do it over there.
	My allowance.
	Like, you literally can't.
	First of all, I literally can't.
	Second of all, I don't want to do it while I'm over there.
	Can you afford my allowance?
	I have a $69,000 a month allowance.
	Is that too much?
	That's light.
	That's light?
	That's light.
	Can you afford it?
	I just said that's light.
	That means yeah.
	It's a lot of it.
	It's a lot.
	I guess you should be your sugar mama.
	Tell you what, Salem.
	I'll give you the homie discount.
	We'll do 50K, okay?
	I'm a nice guy.
	I'm a nice guy.
	Way better.
	Okay, Cindy, what about you?
	Can you afford me?
	Can you afford my allowance?
	No.
	No.
	I'm trying to do the simp circle of life here.
	It's not.
	You guys got to give back.
	Have you got to thought about the philanthropy?
	Where's the philanthropy in you guys?
	Come on.
	You got to give back, okay?
	It's the circle of life.
	All right, we've gone.
	Okay, we did.
	Oh, Salem, tell us about the bankrupting stuff.
	Oh, God.
	Tell us about that.
	What do you mean?
	You bankrupted?
	I only bankrupted one person.
	Have you bankrupted any guys?
	No, I have not.
	I thought you do FinDum.
	But not everyone gets bankrupted.
	Oh, okay.
	Have you made a guy take out a second mortgage on this house?
	No.
	Salem?
	Any second mortgages on the house too?
	Okay.
	Cap.
	All right.
	We have God of Blast here.
	You wanted to talk about what?
	Wait, what was that?
	I'm just being cute.
	Oh, okay, cool.
	Yeah.
	I wasn't sure.
	Red flags and guys and girls.
	Who's more complicated in a relationship?
	Guys or girls?
	It depends.
	Yeah, it really depends.
	Girls could be, but a guy could be.
	Yeah, I really like it.
	This is for you, though.
	God of Blast.
	Oh.
	You said you want to talk about.
	So Jimmy Neutron.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Such a good shot.
	Yeah, it is.
	Oh, I am a session.
	Okay.
	Did you want to talk about that?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Red flags and guys and girls.
	I just wanted to know what the girls think because majority of the time I would hear girls saying like, oh, nothing that they're doing is like making the relationship complicated and they're always like quick to blame the guy for the complications.
	So I just wanted to see what everyone thought about that.
	Because although it can go both ways, do you feel like guys are more complicated in the relationship or do you feel like you can be more complicated in the relationship?
	It really depends.
	That's a good question.
	Relationship on what the dynamic is and what's going on.
	And, you know, like if one person's a cheater or if one person's a gaslighter or manipulator, like, you know what I mean?
	It really can go both ways.
	But a lot of relationships tend to have a lot of gaslighting.
	And I feel like that's a big issue because if one person in the relationship doesn't really know how to recognize gaslighting, they could be easily manipulated.
	And like if there's a problem, let's say we're tating and I did something, but then I'll quickly spin out on you.
	And then you'll believe that and feel like you did the wrong when in reality you did nothing.
	Yeah.
	I feel like that happens a lot in relationships.
	I'm not gonna lie, girls do that a lot because they're good at it.
	That's what I'm just saying.
	That's what I'm saying.
	But girls are so quick to like to not even like own up to their wrongs.
	But men do that when it's like, but men do that too.
	Yeah, I agree with you guys.
	Women do everything wrong.
	You're totally right.
	Men do that too.
	Everything wrong.
	Whenever like there's a relationship ending, it's always the woman.
	Okay, I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I mean, I think dudes can definitely be like sassy and shit.
	Like sometimes I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of being sassy.
	Like, what the fuck?
	I'm my sassy.
	A lot of guys don't.
	Bro, sometimes I'm fucking in a mood, bro.
	I think I might.
	I don't know.
	I think that women are.
	I get moody.
	I'm a moody fuck sometimes.
	I'm pretty level-headed, though.
	I'm pretty level-headed.
	Not a lot.
	I think that sometimes women can also be kind of manipulative with their emotions and they like play into that a lot.
	And I think guys, their natural response, well, some of them will kind of be like, oh, like they want to cater to them and try to fix the problem.
	And I think that sometimes girls kind of stay in that victim mode a lot.
	And that's also very damaging to a relationship.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	We have, okay.
	I just have notes for two more of you guys.
	We have Annalise.
	One time my ninth grade ex carved my initials in his.
	Why don't you tell the story?
	Okay.
	Go ahead, Annelise.
	Am I saying your name right?
	Yeah, Annalise.
	Annelise.
	Oh, thank you.
	One time, just like I was in ninth grade, like I was 14.
	I was in my first relationship or whatever.
	Like, it wasn't even an actual relationship, but this dude was just really mentally ill.
	Like, he has so many issues.
	Like, he broke into a house, like, was stealing cars.
	Like, he has serious problems.
	And I told him, you know, since you're doing all that, I gotta go.
	And he decides to carve my initials, AT, into his chest and then snap me a pic of it.
	And 14-year-old me was like.
	She belongs to the- Sorry.
	I did not mean to press that one.
	Mass commitment.
	I was just scared, so I like told my mom.
	Oh, my God.
	So, yeah.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I've done that before.
	And he got like sent away.
	I've done that before.
	You carved our initials.
	Wait, you did that?
	Yeah, I used to be broken.
	Oh, girl.
	Wait, Satan's on the mic.
	No, yeah, I've done that before.
	Like, when I was like 14, I was in a relationship with a guy way older than me.
	And I had never even met him.
	He was like some really some artist.
	I don't know if you guys saw this.
	I don't know if you guys saw this video.
	This video recently kind of went.
	Yeah, I think this video recently went viral where there was a dude who was like, it was like the almost like, fuck, what's the word for it?
	He was in this car and he drove his car into a shopping mall because his girlfriend broke up with him.
	And like the noises he were making were so like animalistic, it was like scary.
	I'm like, bro.
	It's scary how much that happens.
	Or like a lot of guys will like do things and then blame it.
	Oh, because she broke up with me, or cuz da da da da, and then they'll do really violent acts and then blame it on my ex got my initial tatted on him.
	Oh, would you guys have a dad?
	Would you guys ever get your significant other had it on you?
	If he was my husband, yeah, husband, yeah, yeah, oh, in general, or in general, like let's say you've been together for like eight months, you're dating eight months, or like a year, okay, a year, no, not even, no, I'm doing it.
	We know, Brian, I had like a question for her, but I don't know if I could like ask her right now.
	What me?
	No, for you, because you had said that after this, um, he was saying, Oh, I hope that like I could change any of your minds, and you were like, Oh, this actually made me want to become like makes me want to do OnlyFans.
	Like, why would you say that?
	Like, after this conversation, you want to do OnlyFans.
	I think it was a joke, yeah, yeah.
	We still want a joke, but it's like a girls are confident, they got money, do your thing.
	How could you let anyone stop?
	I could work a nine-to-five and have a career and have OF if I wasn't with you.
	I think it gets tricky whenever you try to mix like certain careers with OnlyFans.
	I think it's glamorized a lot as well.
	I don't think it's for everybody, I definitely can make money.
	You have to weigh the trade-offs.
	Look, I understand the appeal.
	Okay, because a lot of girls join something, she can work a nine-to-five, right?
	She can make that money, save up, maybe use that money to buy a new apartment, have nicer, like well, yeah.
	But a lot of girls think they can join OnlyFans and continue, Cindy.
	She could have like she can buy her own like new apartment, new studio, where she can make those OnlyFans content more.
	And everything is about consistency, everything is about putting your heart and soul into something, and that's what's gonna come out.
	Yeah, that's good.
	So, if you're if you want to do a business, you got to put your heart and soul, you got to invest in yourself.
	So, if you're not doing that, then it's not going to work in your favor.
	I'm not trying to say that, like, people that are right now in their house, not where they are, like they may not be even in the nicest apartment, does not mean that you cannot make it.
	I was making, I was making content on an iPhone.
	I was, I did not have money.
	I was grinding on TikTok for so long, built my fan base, and that's how I got to have this privilege to do what I do now because I manifested this lifestyle.
	That's beautiful, yeah.
	But I also think a lot of girls, oh, let me just do OnlyFans, like, I'll make a bunch of money, and like, it's so easy.
	But then, uh, then I've seen a lot of girls start an OnlyFans, be consistent, and do everything that everyone else is doing, and fail and not make money.
	I think the social media behind it is like a big part of it.
	Yeah, it could take you years to make even as much as you're making on a regular nine-to-five.
	Yeah, it's not.
	I think a lot of people think you like make the Uber.
	Exactly, you post like one thing and then doom, like well, yeah, that's the other thing.
	Like, that's not it.
	The upside is you can make a fuck ton of money, but there's a chance that you don't succeed and you make an average amount of money, or even like very little.
	So, you have that on your name, and then that's out there forever.
	But, uh, I mean, I understand the appeal because, like, hmm, can I do this kind of degenerate thing for a couple years and make a fuck ton of money?
	And then I can retire early and not, because I fucking get it, like, slaving away at some fucking corporate office job sucks the soul out of you.
	Like it's most people are not going to be, the reality is when it comes to what you do for work, you're probably, you're not going to have a career.
	You're going to have a job.
	It's going to be like not something that's particularly fulfilling.
	You're going to be making a fuck ton of money probably for somebody else or not even.
	You're going to be doing some like kind of lame job and you're just going to be a wage slave and just being a corporate drone and okay, I'm going to work until I'm 65 and I'm nine to five for all.
	I get it.
	I fucking get it.
	But what you do also have to ask yourself, what is the trade-off?
	So that's why I started doing YouTube.
	Fuck that shit.
	I ain't doing no fucking corporate.
	Do you think you experience trouble in relationships with what you do?
	I mean, I've said it before on the podcast.
	There's certainly women that wouldn't want to date me because of what I do.
	I think one of the differences, though, is like, and I don't know if we really got into this, but like there's definitely girls who do OF and it's like, no, it's not going to hurt my chances at all.
	Well, okay, it's definitely going to close the door to some guys.
	And I view, like, me doing this, having one, just even if my shit was totally tame, and this is a controversial show, even if I was totally tame, like family-friendly content, there's definitely girls out there that would not want to be involved with that sort of public social media content life.
	They might be more private.
	They don't want that level of attention on them.
	Like even like family-friendly people got stalkers and like all kinds of weird shit going on.
	So, but add on top of that, the fact that this is a controversial show.
	We talk about culture war stuff.
	We talk about politics.
	I have like semi-toxic.
	I'm semi-toxic or whatever.
	So I don't think I'm that bad, but yeah, like there's definitely girls that would not want to date me.
	But I'm not like, I accept that.
	It is what it is.
	I guess we could say the same thing then.
	Yeah.
	The difference.
	It's a little different.
	It's a little different because, like, I'm not saying what I'm doing is like I'm perfectly insulated from like any bullshittery or criticism or like, you know, me being out there in the public sphere can have, you know, various, I mean, there's a lot of pros to what I do, but there's definitely cons also.
	So, but if a girl doesn't want to date me because I'm out there in the public ether, that's no problem whatsoever.
	That's totally fine.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	So, but it's probably also opened up doors too.
	So I suppose you might be even be able to say that about you doing OnlyFans.
	Like maybe.
	I personally, I think it has.
	Just because like open doors dating wise though, like, I mean, I know you're out there, so like dudes are like sliding into it.
	Potentially, yeah, more so, um, more so in, I mean, what I would seek in a guy, guys who are in a high position and like connected to social media, not doing OnlyFans, but like OnlyFans management related or like agency related, you know.
	I think one, they're accepting of that, and two, like, of course, they want to pimp you out, of course.
	People in that and people with you're saying OnlyFans managers who have, who stand to profit would like date you.
	Of course, they would date you because they want to pimp you out.
	No.
	Yeah, I mean.
	Have you dated the guy?
	Have you dated the guy who did OF management?
	No, I haven't.
	I was just saying, like, I feel like that would open up.
	I almost feel like that.
	Not specifically, but like anybody in social media.
	Like, I think that's what I'm saying.
	Well, sure, sure, sure.
	But I feel like you gotta be, as a girl, you'd have to be cautious of a guy who, like, if you started dating him and he's like, let me manage you, like, are his intentions.
	That's nice.
	His intentions like he genuinely likes you, and maybe, like, or does he want, is he wants that money?
	Yeah, no, 100%.
	There's a lot of people.
	I didn't, I wasn't like saying it, but yeah, that is something to be careful of.
	Um, okay, so the carving thing, that shit's fucking crazy.
	Don't, don't do that, guys.
	If your girl doesn't isn't about it, move on and find another girl.
	Okay, hook up culture.
	You said hookup culture, theories on dating, opinions on dating app, orange peel theory.
	Have you done that to a dude?
	Can you explain what the orange peel theory is?
	I feel like I'm not going to be good at explaining it because I feel like I haven't even done it myself, but I've just like seen like videos.
	Okay, fine, I'll just explain it.
	Okay, so the and actually, I haven't heard, I didn't hear about it until I heard it from you, so I looked it up.
	So, basically, the orange peel theory is, I guess, as a this is advice for girls: if you have an orange, you just like bring it to your boyfriend or guy you're dating and ask him to peel it.
	And like, the way he responds to that could be an indicator.
	Like, does he just be like, oh, okay, yeah, no, the problem, babe.
	Or if he's like, nah, you can do that, what are you talking about?
	Like, do that shit on your own.
	So it's like a test almost to see, like, is this guy gonna like help me with like a simple task?
	Does he care about me?
	I think it's important to pay attention to those things.
	You know, little small things like as simple as like opening like a water bottle for you.
	Like, that's why that's why on the first date I make my girl fold my laundry.
	I invite her over.
	I've got the cleaning date.
	I have the laundry going.
	I'm like, yo, come help me at the laundry really quick.
	See how that shit.
	Let's bring it in.
	We got to fold it.
	Oh, you fold.
	You're good at folding?
	Cool, cool, cool.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I would do that.
	Would you guys, on the first date, would you fold laundry?
	Yeah.
	I'll help.
	Like, I'll help.
	Yeah, I'll help.
	I mean, it would be dope if she was just like, if she was just like, I got this.
	That'd be dope, but I'll let you know.
	That's not exactly because I like that.
	Are you going to cover dinner?
	I've done it before.
	Yeah, okay.
	If I'm hanging out with a girl, yeah.
	I thought you said that.
	I'll get you a burrito.
	But you don't like to do.
	Do what?
	I thought you said you didn't like to pay for first dates.
	Yeah.
	I don't.
	Okay, so my position on this has slightly shifted.
	So the most optimum thing that you can do when it comes to dating, if you want success, is to just fucking pay for the first date.
	But you could also just go do something free.
	You could also do something that's affordable if you want.
	But I tend to only date women that are like really into me.
	So if I'm dating a girl and like if I met her on a dating app, for example, and I deleted dating apps a while ago, I don't do dating apps.
	Like I haven't done dating apps in a very long time.
	If I meet her on a dating app and like I can tell like the interest is like medium or whatever and there's a chance that she's cucumber.
	Oh, oh yeah, I'll talk about the cucumber.
	I got that.
	If shit, what was I saying?
	Oh, like if I know she's probably like dating other dudes, like nah, if you're talking to other dudes, like I'm not going to pay for you.
	But if you're properly single, yeah, I got it.
	I'll pay for everything.
	But if like, nah, if you're talking to other dudes, like we'll go, we can go when I will be a provider and pay when you are committed to me.
	If you're committed to me, I'm taking care of everything.
	But until that point, we're going 50-50.
	We might not even get to the point we want my, that was before.
	Now I don't even entertain girls that are like entertaining other dudes.
	Like, be fully for me, and I'll be fully for you.
	Quick.
	So, yeah.
	I know it's crazy, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You can't tell by just one date, though.
	What do you mean?
	To be like, fully for you.
	Yeah.
	Like, maybe you're not going to be able to do that.
	I mean, maybe the dudes you're dating, you aren't like, this is the guy.
	But that's what I want.
	You're saying the first date, you go on.
	Yes.
	I want the girl on the first date.
	If she wants a second date, I want her to be like, I don't want to fence it.
	If you didn't like me, move on because I only like dealing with women that have a really high level of interest.
	I've dealt with, I've done the, let me like, chase a girl, blah, blah, blah.
	No, I don't do that.
	I'm very, I feel like I'm very direct.
	I like you, you like me.
	Let's be together.
	Very simple.
	We don't have to do this.
	Oh, let's go.
	Let's be in the situation ship for three months and be fucking other people at the same time.
	No, no, no, no.
	But I feel before I make a girl my girlfriend, I'll take her on like probably two or three dates.
	Oh, I'm not saying you got to be like boyfriend, girlfriend, but like let's give this an opportunity.
	Yes, like hey, to like give it like a real shot.
	Let's give it an opportunity to flourish because at least for me, if I know that you're like again, like if you're fucking another dude and trying to date me, like I don't, it's a rap, it's done.
	You can let her be exclusive for you on the first date, though, right?
	If she wants a second date, if she's seen, first off, if she, if she's gone on, if she's gone on a first date with me and she's fucking another dude, I don't want her.
	If she's dating other guys, like, but she hasn't slept with them, they have to be gone.
	By the time goodbye.
	I like that.
	How do you know she's not lying?
	I like Brian, huh?
	How do you know she's not lying?
	That's a terrible.
	I mean, if you're interested as a girl and you want a long-term relationship with me, starting it off on a lie is a terrible fucking thing to do.
	Yeah, they do that though.
	Well, I think it's a good idea.
	But why comes to light regardless?
	But I'm super upfront with this with girls.
	I'm super upfront about it.
	If you're not on that speed, you kind of want to date around.
	That's totally cool.
	I'm not the guy for you.
	Go date around.
	But they play those games, though, so how would you do that?
	But here's the thing.
	I feel like if a girl really fucks with me and really likes me, she's going to like, she has to get on my program.
	There is no, it's not a negotiation.
	Yeah.
	And again, if a girl doesn't want to get on my program, that's totally cool.
	But it's my way or the highway.
	The other dudes have to be a rap.
	And some girls, they're not really feeling me like that.
	And that's totally cool.
	I get that.
	Back to the streets you go.
	Yeah, and also I will rescue you from the state.
	I feel like there's a lot.
	I know what I put out, like, whether it's on my social media, because obviously first impressions are very rarely first impressions anymore.
	Like you can know a lot about somebody before you want to date with them.
	And I feel like I put out a lot of energy and just presence that like, you know, I don't think I would ever attract a girl that was like wants to play games would like want to go on a date with me.
	It's just like, yeah, like there's some girls who are in like very toxic relationships, whatever kind of it is.
	Like there are just some girls who get in those relationships all the time and other girls who are like, I've never really been in one because they just put out some like energy where it's like, oh, you know, that girl's probably going to put her foot down if I'm starting to get real like messed up.
	And so, yeah, I don't think a girl that is going to lie and play games is even going to want to go on a date with me.
	I agree with you, Madison.
	I think it's energy and it's also communication of what you want and match each other's needs.
	Brian, I feel like usually girls try to play it cool though when they're dating because they don't want to be like the cycle girl that's all like obsessed over the guy, right?
	So they try to like play it cool.
	But what would you like recommend for the ladies, if they are actually interested in a guy, how to kind of like show that to the guy without being so forward and them kind of like being the pursuer, kind of being like, hey, I want to take you seriously.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so if the guy is a little bit more.
	I don't like women to be like in a sort of like super, like, I don't want a girl to be like, let's fuck.
	Like, I want a girl, but I don't object to like a girl taking initiative because you can do so in a feminine way.
	That's not like you can even approach a guy in like a kind of feminine way.
	Like, I don't, like, if you're to approach a guy out, you see a guy you like out in public.
	Most women don't do this, granted, but like, you can do it in like a feminine way.
	So I don't think most men don't have necessarily an issue with women initiating or approaching so long as you do it in a way that's still feminine.
	Well, I'm not so much talking about initiating.
	It's more once you're already on the date to kind of like communicate it to the guy.
	Like, hey, I want to be.
	Oh, I'm taking the lead.
	She doesn't need to do anything.
	Yeah, like, she doesn't need to do anything.
	Like, she can turn her brain off on a date with me.
	Like, she just wants to just enjoy it and all this stuff.
	But then also, when I, the way I think a girl really shows that she, like, enjoyed a date or like wants to pursue something, you know, is the way she's going to text you afterwards, talk to you afterwards, you know, whatever.
	But then also just kind of like showing some intentionality.
	Like, let's say I mentioned, like, oh, yeah, gosh, I had, like, I had a hydrangea die at my house.
	And, like, I had, you know, just mention something offhand.
	They remember something.
	And then all of a sudden, like, she does a small detail.
	Like, maybe she just like popped by and you just like noticed on your front doorstep was like a hydrangea.
	I don't even know what a hydrangea is.
	I just picked it randomly.
	But just some like little thing where it's like, oh, like, I literally drove all the way to your house to drop something off, not even knowing I wouldn't even see you because I know you're at work.
	And then like I left just so you know I was thinking about you.
	I think people nowadays, men and women, they'll go to other people like, does he like me?
	Does he like me?
	Like he did this.
	Like, what does this mean?
	She did this.
	What does this mean?
	They try to like dissect it.
	I think if you can't tell if somebody likes you, like, that's your answer.
	I think if somebody likes you and wants to be with you, you will know.
	And I think if you don't know and they're like, oh, but like he slept with me, but like he's acting like this.
	Like I, you know, I don't.
	And also like, I don't know how like centrally your guy's dating is.
	Like mine can be spread out sometimes, but like, you know, I live where I live.
	And, you know, like, I, I don't, I have very few girls who like I tell them like I'm not interested or something or like, you know, we just don't go on a second date or something.
	Like, you know, the word kind of gets around, like, oh, he's like, he's not, like, here just to like try and sleep with you.
	Like, he wants to, like, be with you and all this stuff.
	And then I think it just, they'll be real freaking clear on what the objective is.
	Madison, do you use dating apps?
	No.
	Based.
	Instagram's a great dating app, though.
	It is.
	Based.
	Let me see.
	A couple more things here we have, okay, there's the orange peel.
	I have the cucumber slicing theory.
	I don't know if I should mention that.
	I have a picture of it.
	What about the penny theory?
	Actually, for Annalise, you said, I would say one of my biggest hot takes is that it's very hard to find people who want genuine relationships in college.
	Yeah.
	But do you want a genuine relationship?
	I mean, not necessarily, but I mean, I've had friends and stuff who want genuine relationships with other guys and like they just can't get it.
	Like, they'll go up to a guy, they think they're cute, or a guy will come up to them.
	But just like, I feel like college boys are just, they're not, they're not worried about having genuine relationships.
	They're just worried about something else.
	I don't think that's true.
	I think that's like what you're putting your mindset.
	You want to date someone, there's always going to be someone that's like willing to want to date you.
	There's guys that like just coming out of high school, so a virgin trying to find a girlfriend in college, finding someone that respects him and she respects maybe it's what she's getting.
	That's what I was about to say.
	It could be the guys that she's chasing after that are like the fuckboys.
	Of course, the fuckboys are not going to commit to you.
	I get it.
	You want the like super hot, attractive dude who's got riz, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	But like, if a guy has like an insane amount of sexual optionality, he's like, especially if he's young, he's probably going to play the field.
	So, like, I mean, there's definitely like really attractive dudes that want relationships.
	Most of those dudes are in relationships.
	So, the like the pool of attractive men that you get left with are pretty much fuckboys.
	So, I get it.
	It's definitely tough for women to find that.
	But what I, this does kind of tie back into like the whole rating yourself on the one to ten thing.
	That's you know, maybe you're shooting out of your league a little bit too.
	That could be not you, not you specifically, but that's why I think it's important to have a reasonable self-assessment of your own physical attractiveness.
	That way, you can like assess: okay, like, is this a guy that I can get commitment from?
	Am I like shooting out of my league?
	Like, is this guy just gonna string me along because he doesn't view me as relationship potential either because of my looks or just that maybe I'm not bringing something from a personality perspective, too?
	So, um, but I agree.
	I mean, certainly in college, especially do you guys like party here in Isla Vista and shit?
	Yeah, yeah, I mean, UCSB, number one party school in the U.S., very hard for a lot of people here to find relationships.
	Um, you said something about Mike Sherm.
	Sherm, you want to talk about Mike Sherm?
	Did I say something about Mike Sherm?
	Yeah, you said you want to talk about Mike Sherm.
	Oh, no, no, there's a TikTok of you, and you're like, all these boys in high school curved me, but Mike Sherm looked at me.
	Oh my god, I know exactly what you're talking about.
	Did you hook up?
	No, I did not hook up with Mike Sherman.
	I don't even know who.
	Truthfully, I don't know who the fuck Mike Sherm is.
	Is he a rapper or some shit?
	Yeah, he's a rapper.
	It's just that.
	Yeah, he's an asshole.
	You know, I just like, it was like a TikTok trend at the time.
	Sorry, Mike Shirm.
	Oh, the boys at school never looked at me, but like at the time, I had gone to see Mike Sherm, and he like gave me the mic and was staring at me the whole time.
	So it was just like kind of like a cute little TikTok vibe.
	Nothing serious.
	All right.
	We have, let's see, last notes here.
	We have Nicole.
	But your name is, sorry, is Korea?
	Yes.
	Did I say that right?
	Yeah, Nicole is my middle name.
	Oh, that's your middle name.
	Okay, Korea.
	I wrote down Nicole.
	You're in a situationship.
	You said you wanted to spill some real tea about.
	Why don't you tell us?
	I don't want to get like beat up by Krishan Rock, so I just don't want to say you said you had.
	Hold on, no, no, no, no.
	You said you want some real tea.
	You said you had photo and video proof.
	Yeah, I do.
	Can you send it to the whatever Instagram?
	Just send it.
	Wait, but well, are you okay with us showing it?
	First off, what is it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, what is that?
	We were at this BNB and it just got really crazy with just some rappers and they were like a little.
	Well, the rapper wasn't weird.
	It was more the people that was with him that were more like.
	Yeah, like his producer.
	Oh, hey, Train.
	The rappers are always weird.
	No, no, no, no.
	I have a lot of rappers in my DMs as well.
	Not worth it.
	I want to know.
	Kevin thinks cool rappers.
	Wait, actually, yes, I'm curious about that.
	And then we'll get into the tea.
	You said you had a lot of rappers in your DMs.
	Yeah, I have rappers in my DMs.
	Not yet.
	Would you smash?
	Drake?
	Girl, yes.
	This is not me giving you advice, but like a girl who's living your life, why would you not do Drake?
	Before it's just well, I've never met him.
	Like, I know him from Kiki thing.
	Rappers are easy.
	Music and stuff.
	Rappers are easy.
	Yeah, and they're usually weird.
	I read you wrong.
	It wasn't the professional athletes.
	Was it the rappers?
	The performers.
	I've never been with a rapper, but I have met them and I have communicated with them via iPhone.
	And they're usually just like on my phone.
	Smoke signals?
	What's the other?
	How else are you communicating with them?
	Email and shit.
	You send them letters?
	Hello?
	No, but like, they're just weird.
	They're so weird.
	Dude, I've had like a really bad experience with one of like a rapper.
	I'm going to give a story.
	Is it?
	Okay.
	So.
	Are you going to tell the name or not?
	Name drop them, girl.
	I don't know if I should.
	You probably should for context.
	I should.
	You probably should.
	That's why.
	Okay, let me tell the story first.
	Okay, so this rapper DMs me and I he flies me out, right?
	I'm at the airport.
	I'm like nervous and like I was like feeling like impulsive this week.
	Like, I don't know.
	He flew you out?
	He flew me out.
	You guys smashed, right?
	No, we did not.
	I'm in a, this is, this is why.
	So I'm at the airport and I'm on the phone with my friend and he's like, he has a girlfriend.
	He has a girlfriend.
	I'm like, huh?
	And like, I don't really like, I don't know that much about him, but like, he's just telling me that he has a girlfriend.
	I'm like, okay, that's super weird.
	So I meet him.
	He's like, the vibes are like, okay, it's whatever.
	Obviously, he wants to have sex.
	I know going there that I am not going to have sex with him.
	Wait, you knew.
	I knew I was not going to have sex with him.
	And then while I was before he flew you out?
	Yes.
	I mean, but don't be naive.
	Like, he flew you out.
	I know, and that's, I was like, okay, I just want to, like, I just want to meet him and like just see.
	I was like, okay, like, you never know.
	And, like, I said, I was feeling impulsive.
	I was like, whatever.
	Okay.
	So I get there and I quickly learned that like it's not the vibes.
	And so he's obviously trying to like do things with me.
	We're in his house.
	I take a shower.
	The fire alarm goes off.
	He's like, we can't sleep here.
	It's going to go off all night.
	Let's go to a hotel.
	I was like, okay, whatever.
	So I fly in at night too.
	So it's like late and I'm tired.
	So we lay down and he's like trying to do shit with me and I'm like not having it.
	So I like fall asleep.
	Oh.
	And he's like, are you awake?
	And I don't answer and he leaves the hotel room like immediately.
	Who is this guy?
	I wake up in the middle of the night and he's not there, which like I don't really care at this point because I wasn't feeling him anyways.
	And I wake up in the morning and he's not there.
	And he was like, oh, I went to the studio.
	I'm like, okay.
	So I don't really hear from him.
	Okay, so just like, let me recap.
	Did you sign it?
	You weren't?
	Hold on.
	No.
	Let me just.
	So, okay.
	You weren't really feeling it.
	You weren't down.
	Right.
	Like, he made a move, but you're like, no.
	Yes.
	And then he left.
	Yeah.
	That sounds totally valid.
	I mean, yeah, but I'm just saying, like, this is just my experience.
	I was just giving you my experience.
	Oh, okay.
	Dude, I don't think that's a similar experience.
	He flew you out.
	You weren't DTF.
	He's like, I don't think either he's not DTF.
	Like, how else do you want to do that?
	Yeah, I don't think so either.
	So, I mean, I just think it's kind of like a funny story.
	And I do look back and I'm like, I don't know why.
	Did you luck?
	No, I wish he's still alive.
	RIP.
	RIP in the RIP.
	Can I get an RIP in the chat?
	RIP in chat for two vlogs.
	Do you want to?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so.
	Name drop.
	Uh-oh.
	So basically, he's like not telling me.
	So he texts me like the next morning.
	He's like, oh, what do you want to go do?
	And I answer him.
	And he's just like being really on and off.
	So by 12, I was like, okay, I'm just going to go home.
	I don't say anything.
	I just check out of the hotel, get a flight back home, and I just rapper from like the early 2000s.
	Chingy?
	Atlanta.
	Chameleonaire?
	Huh?
	Jermaine Dupree.
	Jermaine Dupree's please.
	Was it Jermaine Dupree?
	I don't know who that is.
	I love rappers.
	Oh, sister.
	I'm like a boomer with this shit.
	Was it Jae Kwan?
	Who?
	If he doesn't know, Tipsy, you know, that's on Tipsy.
	Say yes.
	If someone guesses, I'll answer, but like, I am not.
	I just don't want to get like double face list or be list.
	Does he have a sound class?
	Like underground?
	Okay, okay, I'll give you his face tattoos.
	Face tattoos.
	No, no, just give us his rap.
	Give us his Playboy Cardi vibe.
	So like Underground?
	Ken Carli.
	Oh my god, I would know this.
	I would know this.
	Hold on.
	Ken Carson.
	I was literally going to say that.
	Average height, maybe.
	Okay.
	No, I think he was tall.
	Okay, bro.
	I don't really remember.
	Good talk.
	I have some money.
	I think I'm going to say that.
	Sandy.
	Sandy.
	And I've met Lil Pump.
	He was weird too.
	Oh my God.
	I hate him.
	Was he on lean?
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	He was weird.
	Dude, I have such a weird thing.
	Because he was with Ken Carson too.
	So I'm not going to like that.
	I'm going to defend Lil Pump right quick.
	He's a great guy.
	Stand up.
	Lovely.
	No, so I was like with one of them in opium, but I'm not going to name him because it's really awkward.
	So he flew me out and then I went to his Airbnb.
	We were cool.
	It was actually like we vibed really like we were vibing, whatever.
	It was cool and I slept over and then I woke up with a kidney infection.
	Like because I have like really bad kidney problems.
	So I woke up with a kidney infection, which happens to me.
	So I woke up and I was like, I had such a bad fever, like da da da.
	And he was like, are you okay?
	Like you have such a bad fever.
	And I was like, no, it's fine.
	Like, don't worry about it.
	So the day goes on and I get like significantly worse.
	Like I'm like throwing up, like going in the bathroom, like throwing up.
	And I'm like, oh my god, like this can't be happening to me right now.
	So then he's like, I want to go shopping and then go to the studio.
	So I was like, oh, fuck.
	Okay.
	So like he orders an Uber and we got in the Uber and the Uber.
	I'm like literally passed out.
	Like I'm like, I don't think I can do this.
	So I'm like, just thug it out.
	So I'm like, all right, whatever.
	We go.
	We go to the shop and he has like one of his friends with him, like one of his rapper friends.
	So we go in the store and they're like shopping and stuff.
	I literally like sneak out to the front, like literally fall on the ground and throw up everywhere on Mel Road.
	Like it was so bad.
	And everyone's like looking at me.
	So then.
	Yes.
	And then, so.
	So then...
	Okay...
	Sorry.
	I didn't mean to press that.
	My bad.
	So, where was I now?
	You were throwing up on Melrose.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	So then we go to the studio, right?
	And that's when like Ken and like Lonely and everyone show up.
	And the moment they all show up, I pass the fuck out on the couch.
	And I kid you not.
	The guy that I was like there with takes a picture of me on the couch, passed out with my mouth wide open in front of all of them.
	And I was just dead asleep the whole entire studio session with all of them there.
	And I imitate it.
	It was so fucking embarrassing.
	I never wanted to see him again.
	Did they know what was going on with you?
	No.
	So he knew.
	He knew.
	And he was being really nice about it, honestly.
	Like, he was being super supportive.
	Like, whenever we went back to the crib, he was like, let me get you some food.
	Like, you know, like you have to eat.
	But like, the rest of them, like, it was so bad.
	Cindy, you said yesterday.
	And like, I love Lonely.
	So when like Lonely showed up, I was like, like, there's no way.
	Like, it was the ass.
	That's iconic.
	Cindy, you said you had some info or whatever.
	Well, the most iconic is Snoop Dogg.
	But I have like a music video before with a rapper.
	Hold on.
	A bunch of other rappers has DM me.
	Yeah, can you pull it to the edge of the table?
	What's the microphone?
	Yeah, that way.
	Okay.
	Can you hear me?
	I love you.
	Sounds good.
	Sounds good.
	You're good.
	You're good.
	But you said you just Snoop Dogg.
	was just like a business thing right that wasn't you didn't date No, we didn't date.
	I never did any of the rappers, but they've all like.
	call what?
	DM'd me or?
	Snoop DM'd you?
	I met him through a mutual friend.
	So it was a friend that's friends with him.
	Okay.
	Snoop dog is me.
	No, it was.
	I am very grateful of meeting him.
	He's a great guy.
	It's truly an honor, honestly, meeting him.
	You met him in, like, a professional context, I'm assuming.
	I'd hope so.
	Is there something you want to tell us?
	We live in such different worlds.
	It's just been a blast meeting him, so that's all.
	You said there were some other rappers?
	Yeah.
	Are you saying that you snooped his dog?
	No.
	All right.
	I don't know what I'm doing there.
	That was good.
	Thank you, Kinsey.
	Thank you, Kinsey.
	But who else?
	Trippy Red.
	Answer my DMs.
	Answered your DMs.
	Do you ever used to go to his crib and all those parties that you used to have?
	I feel like everyone's been to at least one of Trippy Red's parties.
	He had so many underage girls over there.
	What the fuck?
	Hold on.
	We don't need to be throwing a boy on the bottom.
	I know.
	He just always has a lot of people.
	There's zero chance this guy named.
	Every girl ever, I feel like in LA or anywhere has been to his crib.
	Wait, who's Trippy Red?
	Oh, yeah.
	Because we went to K-Swab's B ⁇ B.
	Oh, my God.
	I actually sent the video to him, but.
	Wait, do you want to?
	I don't know if I Nah I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not sure everybody.
	Whatever.
	There's some tea.
	I don't want to like fucking, I don't want to.
	I'm more into nobody, though.
	That's like, I love you kind of like.
	I don't want to be a gossip fucking channel.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	The last thing is, you said you hate this generation's ideas of commitment and loyalty.
	Who told me?
	You.
	Yeah, you said that.
	Yeah.
	That's just it.
	Basically.
	Okay, cool.
	Point blank.
	You also said you want to speak about how toxic men can be to women who root for them.
	What does that mean?
	Honestly, I wanted to be federal, but I don't want to be too federal.
	So that's just what it is.
	I'm not sure what that means, but okay.
	Can you define federal for me right quick?
	Like just exposing yourself.
	Too personal.
	Like, I don't want to get too personal.
	I was just saying, like, that's how I feel about it.
	Good times.
	Okay, let me do some chats, then we're going to wrap up the show.
	We have Modestacama.
	Quick answers.
	Would you enter a state Capitol building and destroy a piece of art that was on display?
	No, one by one.
	This is ridiculous.
	Is this question?
	No.
	It's about the satanic.
	Yeah, no.
	Oh, okay.
	No?
	No.
	No.
	Why would I do that?
	No.
	Why would you do that?
	Oh, okay.
	Good times.
	All right.
	Thank you, Madisa.
	It's about the beheading of the Satan.
	You can describe what kind of art.
	Yeah, okay.
	We have Madest Akama here.
	OF panel, why do you hide your content behind DMs?
	Are you worried you aren't enough?
	Why do you think you aren't enough?
	If your answer is money, how much is enough?
	Common question to men.
	So why do you hide your content behind DMs?
	Like he's saying, why is it your content on the wall?
	My content is on the wall.
	Could you pay for that?
	What?
	Mortger?
	I mean, it's either like a subscription or something like that.
	I mean, that's kind of like the whole point.
	Yeah, that's kind of the whole point.
	Okay.
	And I think people would argue, are you worried you aren't enough?
	I would argue that people would say, like, oh, you only have to pay this much to see this.
	So I guess that's kind of contradictory a little bit.
	Okay, we have Madis Akama once again.
	I'm interested in hearing from Madison why he thinks American males fleeing to Islam, why he thinks American males are fleeing to Islam and the Middle East.
	One, I think that they, the Middle East has a really good sense of, and when we talk about the Middle East, like, I think what he's talking about is probably a place like UAE, Saudi Arabia, that kind of place.
	Like, very established places that are decently Western.
	Most of their leaders, they're princes.
	Like, the Prince of Dubai was raised in America.
	It's getting Western.
	The big main reason is, I think, because guys just think that people in the American Christian Church have confused meekness for weakness.
	And so they're like, oh, I'm just going to turn the other cheek.
	And a guy I really like is like, oh, yeah, like, if you disrespect Jesus Christ to my face, like, I'll turn the other cheek and then I'll slip and jab.
	It's just like, it is humiliating to be a man and be in a religion where people can desecrate your God and make fun of him all the time and there's no payback for it.
	Whereas in Islam, if people like attack Muhammad, they'll blow up a freaking office building.
	I do not condone blowing up an office building, which is terrible.
	But I think that's the reason why you see a lot of Western men being like, oh, I want to be a little bit more of a family.
	Are you referring to ISIS?
	That's not Islam.
	No, not ISIS.
	No, I'm not talking about ISIS.
	This is a pretty common talking point.
	I'm like, Arabs don't show up anything for I'm not sure if that was what Madison was saying, but I think he's saying that basically correct me if I'm wrong.
	Are you saying that like it's like it's totally cool?
	Like people will get away with disrespecting like Jesus.
	But if you were to attack the prophet Muhammad, that would be like they would cancel you.
	They would like to have so many different vectors.
	Like they are defensive of their faith.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Hakama, for that totally dating-related question.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	Okay, so final thing, we have two more tweets.
	I think we have two tweets from Rox Rocky or Rox Rocky.
	Go ahead, pull them up.
	And then we're going to wrap.
	Why do sugar daddies think hawk girls are single?
	They are so shocked when there's more than one man paying for her.
	Literally.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Which is exactly why you shouldn't pay a simp.
	But yeah, why?
	Yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
	Like, how are you going to engage with a girl who does that and not expect that she's doing that with a bunch of other dudes?
	Like, hello?
	Next one.
	Cis men who really believe women have been submissive for centuries are complete clowns.
	Men made statues of goddesses before society became corrupt.
	So you're basically saying like that men were that men were like bowing down to women, basically.
	Oh yeah, women controlled spirituality, religion, and societies for a long time.
	Absolutely.
	It wasn't always patriarchy.
	I would agree with you in that women have had a lot of influence over their husbands.
	And there's a lot of whipped dudes out there that, yeah, definitely like, you know.
	You talking about like when this, well, like when the Spartans would like yield to the Oracle of Delphi if they're going to go to the bottom of the world.
	Yeah, I'm not talking about patriarchy here in modern society.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Good times.
	Did you want to expand on that tweet at all?
	On ancient civilization?
	I guess.
	Not really.
	What do you think about the empire?
	They wouldn't go to war unless the Oracle of Delphi, which was completely different.
	Women were leaders, women were teachers, and matriarch was, and still is in some countries, a big part of certain societies and things like that.
	And I think in this society, people are very wrapped up in patriarchy and how men are leaders.
	And back to the femininity and feminism and things like that.
	How that's the only way, basically.
	That's an old tweet.
	But people think that's the only way.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let me see here.
	What are the final things we got to do before we wrap?
	Any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap up?
	I think you all were lovely.
	Thank you.
	Even me?
	Thank you.
	Even you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We love you.
	You did not disappoint Brian.
	All right.
	You weren't that aggressive.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Period, Brian.
	Okay, all right.
	Any other fun?
	Anything from anybody else?
	Do girls ever talk about your temper sometimes?
	I was just curious.
	Do I have a temper?
	Yes.
	You have a temper of kidding.
	I've noticed this.
	No, and on this.
	Yeah.
	No, I've seen like off podcasts.
	Off podcasts.
	Are you like snappy?
	But I feel like you like demand respect.
	Like just like the way you are.
	It's very like masculine and stuff.
	Well, it's like also she accidentally walked by.
	Oh, yeah, I got tilted.
	That was like a little bit of a terrible thing.
	You know, something like that.
	Oh, demanding respect.
	Oh, I'm super opposite.
	That's like you've got a little like temper.
	But other things where it's like, okay, don't cut me off, I could understand that.
	You know what I mean?
	But other things like I feel like I have like a how do I explain this?
	Free the guy in the trunk.
	Free the guy in the trunk.
	We're gonna go get him right now.
	Yeah, no, don't worry.
	He's still not there.
	He likes it.
	Well, here's what's like in my private life, I'm like, like, for example, if I'm dating a girl, I'm pretty fucking mellow.
	Like, I don't like to argue.
	Like, these kinds of conversations, this is the last kind of conversation I want to have.
	Like, I ain't arguing with my girlfriend.
	Like, this shit is draining.
	Like, but obviously, we're here.
	Like, this is like my job to debate.
	As far as behind the scenes, like, the reality is, like, there's a time in the place for, like, let's bullshit and have fun.
	But, like, somebody has to be there.
	Like, yo, we're making this happen.
	Like, we want to get the show started on time.
	I'm trying to move things along.
	So, I'm like, I get that.
	I'm very like.
	There's like a limit.
	There's a limit?
	No, look, sometimes I can be like, I acknowledge it.
	Oh, I acknowledge it.
	Definitely, sometimes I'm like, sometimes I'm a fucking dickhead to Nick.
	I'll apologize to him.
	Sometimes I can be like way too stern.
	Aw, Nick.
	Justice for Nick.
	Justice for Nick.
	But like, I don't know about you guys, but like, and maybe this is like because I used to be a gamer.
	Like, I used to play World of Warcraft.
	I get that.
	Hold on, let me fucking learn the World Guard.
	So, I used to be this is okay.
	Let me gamers are very quickly.
	Can you lower the volume a little bit on this?
	So, I used to be like a hardcore, literally addicted to like video games.
	So, like, this shit was my life.
	So, I would play World of Warcraft Classic, right?
	And I was in a hardcore rating guild.
	So, like, what does that look like?
	You're going to be playing eight hours a day with a bunch of people in your ear.
	And, like, my the git compared to my guild leader, this is so ridiculous.
	He, like, that dude was fucking intense.
	Like, if you fucked up, he was on you.
	And, like, just having played video games, coming from a gamer community, like, you just, like, kind of have this abrasiveness.
	And maybe that's, I shouldn't use that as like an excuse, but like, that's just like how I like that's my experience.
	Also, like, I've been in other like, I've been in other jobs where, like, I was an employee, and like, it was like a really like the boss was like super on top of you.
	And some people think that that's not like the best.
	There's definitely like better leadership styles, but I feel like somebody has to be there and be like, yo, we're getting shit done.
	Like, here's how it is.
	Like, especially, um, I was never in the military, but like, I like if you're in the military, like, bro, they're fucking like no, but I definitely see the gamer.
	Like, I definitely see the gamer in you.
	Like, when you stop, because I feel like I had a gamer boyfriend, and he'd be on the game, and he'd like literally like go from zero to 100 real quick.
	If he like lost, he's like, Oh, I'm feeling like well, I'm not like, so I'm never gonna be the guy who's like, Can you please do this?
	I'm gonna be like, Do this, do this, do this.
	Like, here's what we need.
	And, like, we're trying to get the show started.
	Um, sometimes people are running late, and uh, so when people are running late, like, I'm more chill if, like, but we were, we were like, started late, we were behind.
	So, okay, I can stop that shit.
	We were here hella early.
	It makes sense.
	You don't hear ice.
	No, but like, I'm trying to, like, okay, we gotta get we gotta get the show going on time.
	I hate starting it late, so but definitely, like, sometimes I like, granted, like, these are can be fucking uh aggravating, frustrating conversations to have.
	So, admittedly, yeah, I get tilted for sure.
	Um, but like, despite I actually, like, I'm not trying to like reframe it or whatever.
	I'm actually, like, Nick, after the shows, am I super fucking mellow?
	Brian just kids it after the shows, he's super chilly.
	Like, I'm if I, like, dating a girl, like, I hate, I don't like to argue, like, super fucking mellow.
	Um, I feel like it's like, I don't rate, like, I'm not gonna raise my voice.
	Taylor, I think you're right about like the gamer.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I mean, it's the same way.
	He plays World.
	Yeah.
	He's like that.
	Who's your favorite gamer that you watch right now?
	Oh, gamer that I want.
	I don't really, like, occasionally I'll watch Twitch, but um, what do you watch on Twitch?
	I mean, about to be me, right?
	Yes, about to be you.
	We'll set that up.
	I mean, like, I'll occasionally.
	I watch a bit of World of Warcraft.
	You really want to know the answer to this question?
	I mean, yeah, I watch Games.
	Okay, sure, I'll give like three.
	So, I like Payo.
	I like people, right?
	Yes, Stay Safe and Ampy.
	Those are the guys I watch on Twitch.
	But I'll like, like, I'll tune in for like 10 minutes, and then that's it.
	I'm not like watching them.
	There's one that just switched to the Twitch Station.
	Who was that guy?
	There's a streamer called BC Cutie from who plays Age of Empires 4, and it's fantastic.
	His build guides are phenomenal.
	Good shit.
	Do you ever watch like E-Dates?
	Nah.
	No.
	Nah.
	When I'm on Twitch, it's like, okay, like, I'll take a break from work, I'll eat some food, and I'm like, okay, I'll watch a Twitch stream for like 10 minutes.
	I'm not going to like watch a fucking, I'll tune in for 10 minutes to somebody.
	Yeah, I don't, yeah, exactly.
	No, like, I don't have time.
	I don't have time.
	But, I mean, there's definitely periods where I would maybe tune into some gamer streams for longer periods.
	But, wait, so how did that come up?
	Yeah, she just asked me.
	Oh, like me?
	Oh, yeah.
	About my temper.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I just noticed a little bit.
	The level until you're in the middle.
	I mean, disbelievers.
	But I also.
	But I think it should be a little bit more.
	I would say, though, I feel like there's definitely people.
	It's weird because half the people who watch my stream, they're like, this guy's a saint.
	Like, his patience is insane.
	But then there's other people who are like, yeah, he gets too emotional.
	And like, sometimes he gets angry and has a temper.
	I feel like there's kind of truth to both insofar as, like, if you were sitting where I was sitting and having the conversation, like, week in, week out, and like, no offense, like, sometimes dealing with, like, you guys were pretty cool.
	Dealing with like obnoxious people and like dealing with these personalities.
	Like, I get that.
	Honestly.
	Some of you do deal with, like, you're in the content creator space.
	You've got to think.
	He's going to have a bunch of people that come on his show who are just like, they've planned something before they got here.
	Like, oh, I'm going to get a bunch of clicks because I'm going to lose my mind about something.
	Yeah.
	So he's got to keep that tamp down.
	And the fact that you do this like twice a week, crazy.
	I would lose it.
	Like, it's been seven hours and I'm like, yeah, not a holy freaking life.
	Yeah, I do this twice a week, every single week.
	So ice cream.
	Your last episode, you had Adam 22.
	Yeah.
	The last one?
	That wasn't the last one.
	I would say like it's weird.
	As far as my temper, though, like, just to address that, I think a lot of times I can be very patient, but like sometimes, yes, I like lose.
	Also, like, I lose my cool over like I get tilted over like small shit.
	It's so weird.
	Is that a West Coast thing?
	Tilted?
	Oh, tilted is a gamer term.
	Oh, I was like, I've never heard that.
	Oh, so tilted, that means you get like super, super frustrated.
	I think it actually originates.
	Tilted originates from like pinball machines where like, if you got, like you'd fucking like tilt the pinball machine if you were like getting frustrated but like tilted in the vid in a video game like like, if you keep like Hearthstone I don't know if any of you guys play hearthstone holy, that game would get me so fucking tilted.
	I used to play wait Nick, pull the shit up.
	I used to actually never mind, I used I got, I got legendary in Hearthstone, which is like the nerdiest fucking game in the world and it's like a card card game and it's like very analytical.
	But it's like a game where you can get so fucking frustrated because if you like you're on a losing streak, holy fuck, I would get so tilted playing hearthstone and I hit legend.
	What's up tilted, okay.
	Okay, this is like super off topic, but how do you two get girls what like?
	How do you guys approach women?
	Where do you find women?
	You guys both don't have dating apps, right?
	Well, I mean I can.
	So I mean like instagram.
	So is it just Instagram?
	Or like meetings?
	Probably just friends.
	Church friends.
	Church.
	I go to church.
	I go out a lot.
	I speak at a lot of events.
	I go to like probably three events a week.
	Congresswife.
	Oh, yeah, Congressman.
	What do you like to do, Madison?
	I shoot guns a lot.
	We've got 1,100 acres out in the middle of Fortnite.
	So you'll find someone at the gun.
	Just like in the gun range.
	No, it says not.
	That's not a good thing.
	Not at all, my technology.
	Yeah, I like French tips.
	Cute pink, like nice makeup, like having her hair done.
	I love wearing cute shoes.
	You don't want a little hunting girlfriend?
	I mean, like, I want her to know how to shoot if she needs to defend herself, but no.
	Okay.
	Let me come over here.
	Because they're crazy.
	You're a good man.
	Good shit.
	Good shit.
	It's been a pleasure.
	So, all right, guys.
	I love you guys.
	Just one sec.
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	Drop us a follow.
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	I'm going to raid somebody on Twitch, but I'll do that once I get a little further through my outro here.
	So, guys, last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Thank you to Grid1 Motorsports, LP, Modest Acama, Jay Butler, Nickelodeon.
	Thank you.
	Or actually, I haven't seen Nickelodeon in a while.
	Thank you to the panel.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, if you're interested in sponsoring the podcast, you can also DM me there.
	Let's see.
	Oh, guys, we have just one more show left, and then we're going on break for like three to four weeks.
	So it's probably going to be mid to late January.
	So, need to recharge.
	I'm still going to be working, but just I'm not going to be doing any shows.
	So, we will be posting every single day on all the clips channels.
	If you want to get your whatever fix while we were gone, if you're not subscribed, guys, go subscribe to the clips channels.
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	So, if you haven't yet, go subscribe.
	Oh, we will be live again Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific for our final show of the year.
	So, please be sure to tune in.
	We have a very solid panel lined up.
	Very solid panel, guys, assuming no flakes.
	I mean, we got actually today was crazy.
	Like, today we had like so many flakes.
	I mean, yeah, yeah, like in the past 48 hours, 24 hours, really, like, I think eight girls flaked.
	That is a full panel.
	Yeah, that's high to Phil.
	I can't imagine if the other girls came.
	Oh, that's also why I get tilted.
	Is like, to me, being a person of your word and like being reliable is like super important to me.
	Like, for me personally, if I say I'm going to be somewhere, I'm going to be there.
	I don't care.
	Oh, something better came up.
	If I gave you my word to a commitment, I will be there.
	So, granted, some people have like emergencies.
	I get that, but a lot of people just fucking flake.
	Whatever.
	So, oh, I'm going to raid.
	Nick, can you actually pull?
	Actually, no, it's fine.
	I'm going to raid StaySafe TV.
	He's playing World of Warcraft.
	Those of you on Twitch, I'm going to send you over to StaySafe TV.
	I'm going to start that raid in just a couple seconds here.
	And so, those of you on Twitch, thank you for tuning in on Twitch.
	I'm raiding Stay Safe Now.
	Thank you guys over on Twitch.
	And then, okay, rated.
	And then let me just get this.
	Yeah, so guys, Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	That's our final show.
	Please tune in for our final show, guys.
	We have a special, special, something special planned.
	So it's going to be a good show.
	Super solid panel.
	It's going to be, some regulars are coming on that.
	Some guys you haven't seen in a while.
	So be sure to tune in.
	Go when Madison runs for Congress again.
	Please, please, please vote for Madison if you're in his area or whatever.
	If you can vote for him, vote for Madison.
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	All right, good night, guys.
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