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July 26, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #87

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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hi, my name's Eileen.
I'm 24 and I'm a bartender.
All right, welcome.
Thank you.
I'm Audi, aka Audi Drip.
I'm a fashion designer, musician, and I'm trying to make a living, living.
Age?
I'm 22.
22.
Okay, Audi Drip.
Is that your rap name?
It's my clothing.
Drip is a clothes.
So good.
Yeah, people call me Audi Drip with the clothes, with the music, whatever it is.
Audi.
Audi Drip.
Sorry, I'm like really white, so I don't know what trip is.
What is drip?
Can anybody tell me?
She likes the clouds.
She looks good.
Okay.
And by the way, she very graciously made some art for us.
So I'm going to hold it up to the camera here.
It's good.
Check it out, guys.
She's a talented.
Damn it for customs.
Let me see if I can.
Oh, that's nice.
Look at that.
That's cool, right?
Wait, what's what the did you put a heart here?
Hello, is that?
What's that signify?
Are you is this like a love note?
Just a little bit of a love doodle instead of a love poem.
Okay, well, I expect a poem later tonight.
Okay, what about you?
Hi, my name is Andrea.
I'm 31, 32 in a couple of days, and I do YouTube, OnlyFans, streaming, pretty much anything, content creation.
Okay.
And I actually detect a bit of an accent from the both of you.
Where are you from?
I'm from the Midwest, born in St. Paul, Minnesota.
Born and raised.
Do they have accents in Minnesota?
Yes.
Does she have a Minnesota accent?
No, no.
What is your accent?
I'm trying to detect what it is.
People tell me I have all different types of accents.
So I don't know.
You could be the judge.
Okay, we'll get some more samples later on in the show, guys.
Well, I'm actually from Canada, Quebec, Canada.
So, well, that's kind of French Canada, but I'm still in the future.
So French?
Louise.
I didn't know you spoke French.
But Minnesota is close to the Canadian border.
They speak kind of similar in some degrees.
Okay.
What about you?
My name is Andeza.
I'm a hair model and a social media manager.
Hair model?
Yeah.
I didn't know there were hair.
Oh, I've heard of hair models.
You got good hair, so okay.
Thank you.
Age?
23.
23, okay.
So like Maybelline.
Cream of nature.
Head and shoulders.
Knees and toes.
So like, have you done any shampoo bottles?
No, more of like their poster girl.
Okay, gotcha.
Okay, very cool.
Hi, my name's Rosanna Pfeiffer.
I'm from Buffalo, New York.
I'm a nurse practitioner, and I also model an act.
Age?
34.
34?
You said nurse practitioner.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
And do you do content too?
You make content?
Content creator?
Like, what kind?
Like, I model and act, so I guess kind of.
Okay, gotcha.
What about you?
I am Mal Palpatine, and I am 27, and I am a content creator, and I also do marketing strategy full-time.
Is your last name really Palpatine?
No, I wasn't sure.
I was about to say that.
I was like, what?
I wish.
Is that your stage name?
do you have a should so we should refer to mal is that you're Do you call me Mal or Mallory?
Is your real name Gertrude?
No, it's just Rogers.
It's boring.
And I don't know if you're not.
Your first name is Roger?
No, my last name is Rogers.
Mallory is her first name.
Oh, that's your legit first name.
Yes.
Oh, okay, Mallory.
Okay, gotcha.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Mia Wynn.
I'm 26 years old.
And in the interim of getting my PhD in psychology, I've been an internet personality for about five years, and I'm starting a male dating advice platform called Men Ask Mia.
Men Ask Mia.
Mia.
Yeah.
And you're going to provide dating advice?
You're your coach, coaching.
Yeah, essentially.
I started off on TikTok and then it kind of became popular and it's going to grow into like Patreon.
What was your like breakout piece of advice that you provided to a guy when it comes to dating?
When you mean breakout, what do you mean?
Well, I mean, you said you post on TikTok.
Typically, like someone will have like a video that gets in the algorithm or goes viral.
Have you had one like a video that just got a lot of views where you were giving advice?
Oh, okay.
Usually I'll just be like, hey, if you're a guy that dates a girl, ask me questions.
I got the insight.
Like tell me what's up.
And they'll just start asking and I'll start responding.
Do you date women, too, or are you – I've been with women in the past, but I'm – That's great.
That's crazy.
That's with men.
I'm pretty much heterosexual, but I experimented.
Okay.
Got it.
Okay, we'll touch back on that later.
Kelly, what about you?
Hi, I'm Kelly.
I'm 21.
I'm a student, and I'm a personal stylist and shopper for Nordstrom.
And I do social media and content creation for them as well.
All right, welcome back.
Thanks.
Mike.
Me, yes, you.
My name is Michael Sartain.
I'm a retired U.S. Air Force captain, FLOKC135, as a navigator.
And I did special ops.
And I did Counter Intel for a while.
And now I'm the founder of the Men of Action Mentoring Program.
And I also host the Michael Sartain podcast.
And I host a show called Access Vegas with my good buddy Rolo Tomasi.
Very cool.
Did you see your age, by the way?
I'm 45.
What?
Really?
I am 45.
I spent my 30s in the with Uncle Sam.
Good times.
I thought you were younger.
I think I said that last time.
Yeah.
But Your moisturizer.
That must be what it is.
That's what I'm saying.
Priya, what about you?
Hi, my name is Priya.
I'm 22 years old.
I'm a full-time student at ASU.
I'm an athlete and I co-run a family business.
What kind of athlete?
I'm an equestrian.
So I ride horses.
Are you a horse girl?
Brian, am I a horse girl?
Yes, you are a horse girl.
You are definitely a horse girl.
How many horses do you own?
I own three currently.
Three horses.
Okay, I'm writing that down because that's going to be useful for later.
Okay, very cool.
What's that?
Oh, sorry.
I didn't.
Okay, I got it wrong.
All right.
Okay, guys, we're going to go around the table once more.
So please tell us your current relationship status.
So are you single?
Are you talking stage?
Situationship, friends with benefits, relationship married, polycule.
How long have you been single if you're single?
And what's your longest relationship you've ever had?
Go ahead.
Yeah, so I am currently single.
Men are welcome to come.
Around me?
Okay, okay.
I was confused.
So I know.
I was like, yeah, anyways.
But yeah, I've been single.
I've always been single.
Like, I've never been in a relationship.
I've only been in situationship, like one situation that doesn't count.
Okay.
So never been in a relationship?
No.
One situationship.
Yeah.
How long have you been single, properly single?
Or maybe you're not properly single.
I don't know.
No, I'm single.
Yeah.
Since I've been out of the relationship, it's been two years.
You sounded a little distressed there when you were.
Do all the guys that you're dating know that you're single?
I don't talk to people.
I am a solo-dolo person.
I feel like it's really hard to connect with someone.
I can't just connect with anybody on the streets, you know?
On the streets?
Yeah, like outside.
The means.
You live in LA?
I live in LA.
Yeah.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Okay.
One.
So you had one situationship.
What's the longest period of time that you were seeing a guy?
Even if it was an official boyfriend, girlfriend, what was your longest whatever?
It was four years.
A four-year situation.
Oh, yeah, I think you provided that for us before the.
Yeah.
Okay.
Four-year situation.
And was it pretty con like, because some people are on again, off again, even with situationships.
Or was it like pretty consistent situationship?
It was an on-again, off-again thing.
Like maybe two to three times a year on being on and off.
I'm just doing the same thing over and over.
That's four years.
Explain that.
How does.
I just feel like when you're young and you're like a girl and you date someone that's a man and they're older than you, you just kind of like connect at a different level, especially if it's like a first love situation.
So it's a first love situation.
Those things are really tough to navigate, especially if you didn't have the tools growing up on a healthy relationship on how to deal with that.
So you're just kind of like two kids playing this game with each other, but haven't had the tools to really know how to be a functional, healthy relationship.
So yeah.
Okay.
And you said it was an age gap relationship?
It was five years.
I was 18.
They were 22 when we met.
Okay.
So you, but you haven't talked to this guy in a while.
It's been over for a minute.
Yeah.
Okay.
So 18 to 22 is when you're okay.
You're 24 now.
Got it.
Okay.
Rock and roll.
So when you were saying it was on again, off again, were there like periods of where you guys would fight and then there'd be like a pseudo breakup, even though you guys weren't technically together, I suppose?
Yeah.
Who more often than not was initiating the, I don't want to see you?
Was it him or was it you?
It was, it would be me leaving and me coming back almost every time.
But was he asking you to come back?
No.
Oh, so you would leave him pissed off.
Yeah.
And then you missed him.
Yeah.
Because he was talking to other girls.
I mean, yeah, that's why it was a situation ship because he was with other people the whole time.
He never told you he wanted monogamy.
He would just say that he couldn't do commitment.
That was always the thing for the Spanish Warriors.
Like, oh, I can't be committed.
But he just meant to, like, one Punani.
One boss.
I'm trying to, like, give a PG-13 version of Punani, okay, gotcha.
Punans.
Okay, all right.
Well, what about you?
I'd be putting the singing single.
Shout out to Lizzo, shout out to Minnesota.
Yes.
I'll be really focused on.
Wait.
Can you?
I'm sorry.
Single, single.
That's a little bit of a single.
Shout out to Minnesota.
Lizo, people that sing and single.
Single.
Wait.
The singing singles.
Oh, people who sing or single.
Okay.
I'm not saying you can't focus on a career of creating an art and also see people, but I have chosen as a young, when I was young to really focus on creating at first.
And I really didn't feel like at a young age I had the tools to be in a proper relationship.
So I have seen quite a few people, but never even escalated to the point where I'll say like we could date, we could be exclusive.
So have you ever, you're 22, have you ever had a boyfriend or relationship?
I would say more relationships.
I had boyfriends when I was in high school and middle school.
So I thought.
What's about over 18 after 18?
I would not say dating.
I would say relationships.
Let's elaborate.
I mean, you could spend time with somebody and be more than just friends, but never, never intentions to be more.
At least I had never had intentions with.
So no romantic relationships.
Correct.
Got it.
Friends with benefits.
Okay.
So no commitment.
Correct.
So were you seeing several people?
was the guy seeing several people was I've been in a couple relationships One was a more poly relationship where the man had lots of females around the house.
And I really enjoyed that relationship because that was the one where I felt most that I could be myself because I really do feel like not, I can't really cover one person's all their needs.
Where in Utah was this?
Minnesota.
Oh, Minnesota.
Minnesota.
My bad.
My bad.
Minnesota.
Wait, so were you living in this, in the house with the guy with the multiple girlfriends or whatever?
Correct.
Was it multiple dudes, too?
No, just women.
One dude?
How many women?
Depends how many women want to be around.
At the peak, what was the most?
Like five women.
We'll talk.
He was selling dope?
What was he doing?
No, no.
This guy's a penny.
How old was this man?
He was living off SSI and just basically had his stuff paid for.
Was he disabled?
Right, correct.
He had mental problems.
Was this a problem?
Oh, so he would, he would, y'all weren't even having sex with him.
Y'all were just living with him.
But, I mean, it's to say.
It's cold in Minnesota, so I get it.
You know what I'm saying?
I understand.
Winters get long.
Yeah.
Was this an older man, I'm assuming?
Correct.
Was it a cult?
Like, no, no, he was the old dude who just paid for a house and a bunch of girls just stayed at the house.
But he paid for it.
He was getting, you said he was on disability?
Correct.
But what I will say is that I don't go places that I can provide pretty good for myself, except financially.
Except financially.
I want a documentary.
No, no.
I want a documentary about this motherfucker with the fucking wheelchair who's special right there.
Who's got five girls living with him, living on Social Security?
I would pay to see every episode of ours.
Wait, how did you make a doctor?
How old were you when you did that?
Starting at 19.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
This is the person that would really care for the people in the house.
Did I say I never had a man cook for me?
This man cooked for every woman in the house three meals a day.
Wait, he had six, five, five women in the house.
And he was paying for the house all that.
And he was pretty.
Maybe he was a good cook.
I don't know.
Did you guys have to pay for it?
Bomb cook.
Bomb.
I never, I have never been vegan my whole life.
I've never been vegan.
He was vegan.
Yes, he's vegan.
My favorite food used to be chicken wings.
Chicken wings.
I would eat chicken wings every single day.
But when I moved in there, they cooked vegan.
But you were eating chicken wings every single day?
That was my favorite food, yes.
From KFC or were you making it yourself?
Oh, I can't cook chicken wings.
I can't fry very good.
Chick-fil-A?
No, no, not Chick-fil-A.
B-dubs.
Wingstop?
Those are like, you know, what you got to try some places.
Those are like the average.
Like, anybody can go to Wingstaw, B-Wubs.
You like the chain restaurant.
Yeah.
You want like the most powerful.
I like spicy wings.
I like to try out the hottest wings.
So, yes.
Wingstop only got like a comic.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I like more, a little more.
Like hot wings.
I'm just, now I don't even want to talk about dating.
I want to talk about your eating habits.
So every day, every day, you would eat chicken wings?
I used to, yeah.
You're not exactly, like, every dinner.
Two meals?
For real.
For breakfast, you'd have chicken wings.
But my body started feeling depleted.
Yes.
I got addicted to hot sauce because one of the people that invented some of the hottest peppers, they used to be addicted to heroin.
So they started manufacturing the hottest peppers.
They would go out and, you know, that would the kicker.
It would be because the hottest foods throw you off your senses.
So that feeling, I really like it.
Something like food.
Hold on, one thing, one thing.
Hold on.
Okay.
So you're saying that in order to detox from heroin, people got on peppers?
Correct.
Okay.
Can we?
This actually might be true.
Go for it, Caleb.
But the chicken wing was more the way to get the hot sauce.
You know what I'm saying?
It was just like a delivery method for the hot sauce.
But what was the transition like from eating chicken wings multiple meals a day to becoming vegan?
It was good.
If the vegan food wasn't good, the vegan food was busting.
So I did not mind at all.
Welcome to the whatever food network.
Okay, let's get back to the relationship stuff.
Okay, so you're living in a house with a dude.
There were five other women.
Were you all no.
She said no.
Nobody's fucking.
Nobody was fucking them?
Some people were, but.
Some, not you.
But you see, the thing is, people were looking for different things.
So if you came into the house, everyone is very respectful.
Like, if you were looking for an intimate relationship sexually, you know, there'd be people in the house that would fancy you, whatever.
So were you paying to live here?
No, no, not at all.
Did the girl?
I was making my album there and I was doing all my music, my art, and doing it.
I was learning how to mix and master, record.
I did that.
I learned all that to do myself.
So what was in it for this man that was housing all of you women if there was no having a bunch of females around?
It's like here.
It's like Minnesota Playboy Night.
You haven't ever been getting some.
I've been to the Playboy Mansion several times.
It's not like that.
There's no Social Security check.
You haven't making no chicken wings.
There's no manners.
It's not like that.
It's not anything like that.
It's movie night with 17 playmates.
That's what you have.
Somebody's shaking their leg that whole table.
Is there an earthquake going on?
The whole table is.
I just asked, whoever's like vibrating.
Well, I feel that too, man.
Yeah, it's well, how crazy would that be if we had an earthquake?
That's just crazy.
Okay.
Whatever.
All right.
What about you?
My dating life.
So, okay, current relationship status.
Currently, I'm single, and I've always been in relationships.
And if I wasn't in a relationship, I was dating.
But I really enjoy dating, just like going out and meeting people and getting to know them.
And usually you can do really fun stuff with a guy that you can't do with like a woman, like romantic stuff, you know, that you can't just do with your girlfriend.
So even if I'm single, I'm always dating and hanging out with guys.
That sounds bad, but in the most innocent way.
I'm sure the audience will understand completely what you're saying.
No, they won't.
How long have you been single?
Six months.
Six months?
Okay, what was your longest relationship?
Probably I was on and off with a guy for about six, seven years, and then we broke up.
And then I was actually recently married for the last two years and divorced.
And now I'm single, single for the last six months.
Okay, divorcee.
Yeah, my divorce.
Did you divorce him or did he divorce you?
I think it was me that called it off, but it was me.
Oh my God.
You know how men, I asked like the smallest things.
Like he would never check the mail.
Like I know it sounds kind of ridiculous, but like one day I just lost it.
Like we had been living together for two years and please just go grab the mail.
Wait, so hold on, hold on.
Just a point of clarification.
So I mean, I asked perhaps the reasons why you divorced him and the first thing that came to mind was he failed at getting the mail.
Yeah, it's those little things, right?
Like he would never change the bed sheets.
Like I would have to be the one.
I would have to be the one.
You know, it's that typical, like, he would, I guess, just assume, because I'm like, I think that was an abusive relationship.
Yeah, it sort of is, even though it's really abusive.
Can I ask, would you say that was just the wrong person?
Because if, to me, if it was the right person, the little things is not hard at all.
Like, even if you forgot or didn't do it day and day again, would you get the wrong person?
I have a different question.
Did you entertain the thought of seeing another man before you got divorced?
No.
You weren't with anyone?
No, even if I was like upset about the mail or what, I never thought like, oh, I wanted to come on at the same time?
What was it other than just the mail?
Because nobody gets the worst something for that reason.
So I think we're trying to get at the underlying.
I guess it was just everything.
No ambition.
I guess that was it.
And that leads to smaller things, right?
Like not doing the laundry as much or not doing chores or little things around the house.
It bothered me so much when we would go to his mother's house and we'd have to bring like a gift.
It fell on my shoulders.
Like I didn't like those roles where it was like the woman that makes the gift all pretty and I'd have to go buy it and make, you know, put the effort and he would just show up and ask why you would marry him then?
These were kind of minor things that don't seem big at first and then slowly as you get to know the person more.
Was he employed?
Yes.
You said he wasn't ambitious.
Yeah.
What, if you don't mind me asking, what was his career?
Like worked retail or like in warehouses.
He didn't really have so much a career.
It was kind of.
Was he about your age?
Yeah, he was slightly 34 at the time.
But keep in mind we were together most of the time during COVID.
So that also you're not able to see the full person, right?
Like he wasn't working when we first met because of COVID.
Right.
Okay.
So yeah, but now I'm single and happy.
Okay.
So you were the breadwinner?
Yeah.
In the relationship.
Okay.
Did you.
Yeah.
Did you have to end up paying him alimony?
No.
No.
weren't together long enough for that?
No, I don't really know if it applies because we just were very, that's the thing we never fought at the end so we just split each other went our own way.
So I don't even know what he was illegally.
It was amicable.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
Okay.
What about you?
I am newly single.
My longest relationship was four years.
Four years.
When you say newly single, what was it?
Longer today?
Two months.
Oh, two months ago.
Okay.
Who broke up with who?
He cheated on me.
Good times.
Yeah.
Love that for me.
Love it.
I love it, right?
Yeah, that was the end of that.
So how'd you find out?
You'd love to know I kind of like Send me his IG I bet you I know Oh, my God.
I bet you don't.
He's from Jersey.
Walked in on it because I had like.
There we go.
Walked in on it.
What?
Walked in on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Caught Shorty on the corner.
So like he thought you were going to be gone for a little while.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so what happened exactly there?
Yeah, so I was babysitting at the time and I had work later that night, but he texted me.
He missed me.
I'm like, hmm, you just saw me an hour ago.
You never text me.
You missed me.
Let me see how much you really missed me.
That's what they like.
We like to text right when we check.
Am I crazy or am I always right?
Yeah, exactly.
So I pulled up, walked in his room, shorty on the corner of his bed in his sweatpants that I bought him.
Yeah, but maybe she had a flat tire or something.
No, I took her for a ride.
I was like, tell me what's going on.
She diss me the spiel.
And that was.
What was the spiel?
What did he tell her?
Oh, so he was like, oh, he said you guys aren't together because you're moving to LA next month.
You know, it took me a minute to get this all together because I'm like, wait, the next day I whooped her ass because it was like, wait, he said I was moving next month.
It's this month.
I'm all on his Instagram page.
My clothes are in his room and you just twirling your hair on his bed.
So yeah, I ended up whooping her ass.
And then I moved to LA.
So it worked out for everyone.
Yeah.
Except her.
Yeah, basically.
Were you living together at the time or no?
No, no.
We live like five minutes down the street from each other.
I don't know why I thought my soulmate lived in my hometown, but they don't.
Can I ask a question?
Yeah.
Why would you beat the girl's ass?
Oh, okay, boom.
I'm so glad you asked that.
Because I whooped his ass first, right?
So then, so the next day, like I said, I realized she played in my face.
She lied to me about them having sex, said she didn't know we were together.
She liked the post of us that he just posted.
What does she owe to you?
Oh, oh, nothing, but you lied to me.
Even when I asked you straight up, she didn't resort to physical violence.
Oh, absolutely.
Get touched.
Look.
Half holy, half hood.
I mean, maybe she wasn't.
If she was out here lying to you, if you were woman enough to go take her for a car ride and everything, and she should have lied to you to your face.
Sounds like that literally spells ass whooping to me.
I don't know.
It's not valid.
Right in the dictionary.
What would you do?
Be civil and take it up with the man that I'm in a relationship with.
But then what if you went to the other woman and you were like, she doesn't owe me anything?
Oh, so you just let people disrespect you?
No.
I think you told you why.
I'm tripping over somebody that don't want you.
You're tripping over a dick that isn't given me.
I wasn't tripping over him.
I don't do well with disrespect, baby girl.
So it's like, you're not about to disrespect me and not get beat up.
But she doesn't know you enough to respect you.
She noticed left hook and right hook now.
Wait, did she know?
Did she know you?
No, I didn't know.
We didn't know each other at all.
Did she know that your boyfriend was in a relationship?
Yes.
Oh, she knew.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
But she didn't know you.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I guess that made it okay, right?
Some women get off on being the other woman.
Like, they enjoy bringing value.
Yeah.
A lot of women like that.
A lot of women literally leech off of like men who have girlfriends just so they can feel the void of like, oh, I stole your man.
Yeah.
Which women do you guys hang around?
Because a lot of women.
That's not the type of woman I hang around.
No, I'm from New York.
That's why.
I'm from New York City.
Yeah, I'm from New York City, baby.
Are you Bronx?
Brooklyn.
Brooklyn, okay.
You're from Brooklyn and you don't think about throwing hands?
Absolutely no.
Absolutely not.
Wait, show of hands here for New Brooklyn.
It's not our broken girl.
She's like, she's never had her hands on her, so that's why she doesn't have to be here.
Did you ask me?
Oh, are you.
You got something to say?
You didn't ask me, so you're just making assumptions.
Yeah, first of all, we came on here and they said that we don't need to be coming at each other.
And you, you're getting very personal about her.
You made an assumption, that's all.
About her putting hands on people like, I would never do that.
All right, let's chill, New York.
Let's chill.
I have an opinion.
Okay, you guys.
Are we not supposed to talk about it?
We'll talk about it later.
Okay, just show of hands here.
Show of hands, guys.
If you were in that situation that she was in, you walk in on your boyfriend getting everyone's getting beat up.
Everyone.
Everybody.
Everybody.
Yeah.
Mom better not be in the room.
That's all I'm saying.
I want a show of hands.
Do you.
Okay, show of hands first.
Do you just walk away?
Show of hands if you just walk away, you move on.
Y'all never been in this situation before.
Hold on.
Some more options here.
Some more options.
I'm not going to raise my hand for something.
I don't know what's going on.
Or, here's option two: do you start whooping on the dude?
That's option B. Option C: Do you start whooping on the chick?
And then option D, you start whooping on everybody.
Can I give another option?
You pretend like you don't know and then cheat on his friend.
Cheat with his friend.
You'll number one to be a boss.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you don't know until you're in that situation.
I would hope I would just walk away and be like, I don't know.
The first day I did walk away, I didn't beat her ass till the next day when I sat with my thoughts and really thought about what was about to do.
I'm small, so I can't really fight people.
So, but yeah, I fight real quick.
No, violence is not good either.
Oh, absolutely.
I felt horrible last time.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not a fighter.
So it just like something came over me.
What?
I'm going to go with more like the sight.
It was the next day when she was like, Yeah, I'm done with him.
And I pulled up to the bar that he goes to, and she hopped out his car.
So is that not worthy?
You lied to my face, told me you were done with him, and then you hopped out the car with him.
So it is not.
I don't know.
That's.
Oh, no.
So you fucked her up, basically.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, did you?
I forgot if you mentioned this.
Did you also go for the guy, too?
Oh, yeah, of course.
Okay.
Double whammy.
Did he just take it?
Yeah, he had to.
Like, what are you going to do?
Like, good times.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Kinky Sprinkler.
That's Scott.
A sprinkler goes like this.
It's kind of satisfying, I'm not going to lie.
ASMR.
It's like ASMR.
Thank you.
Start rapping over it.
Yeah, it's a beat.
Um...
Hold on, hold on, here we go.
...comes back like...
What?
What?
Wait, there's no foul.
It's supposed to be.
There's no vowel, so it didn't work.
Okay, that's too bad.
Okay, well, what about you?
Relationship situations?
I'm in a relationship currently.
Okay, how long have you been in that relationship?
Two years.
Two years?
Okay.
Rock and roll.
What about you?
I'm taken for six years.
All right, six years.
Rock and roll.
What about you?
I'm currently dating platonically, and my longest relationship was.
You are dating platonic?
Physically, there's no intimacy.
Yeah.
So you're ace?
No, no, not at all.
But like, we're in the beginning stages.
It's just one dude.
No, two.
Okay.
Do they know it?
Do they know it's two?
Okay, well, because they know now.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
So you're not intimate with either of these two gentlemen.
Yes.
But you're dating both of them.
We're like, yeah, beginning to know each other.
And you're dating coaches?
Courting more so.
Well, what's the problem?
I don't understand.
Did you do that again?
Oh, fuck yeah.
I don't even know the press for that one.
You could save that and use it for future references.
Good shit.
Wait, so okay, you're dating.
I'm not committed to either of them.
But they know?
Yeah.
Well, it's not my, like, it was not my idea.
I'm very okay with like dating men that want to be with other women.
And like, I'm okay with like taking it slow before we make any sort of commitment to each other and waiting to see if we have a bond before we're intimate.
Sure.
So it could be funny to some people, but I consider it a self-respect.
Wait, so are you a dating coach or relationship coach?
Because isn't that ironic?
No, that's just the way I date.
There's different types of dating styles for everybody.
But why do you think you're qualified to give dating advice and relationship advice if you're not really in a traditional relationship?
Well, I've been in three monogamous relationships in my life.
I don't want to know.
Can I not get cut off before I talk and finish my sentence?
Thank you.
What was your question again?
My question was, why do you feel like you are qualified to give relationship and dating advice, but you're not in a relationship yourself?
Because I've been in relationships before.
I grew up around concentric circles that involved men.
I grew up with men in my family.
I surrounded myself basically with men.
I was like the girly girl in the group of men that would have to partake in male activities.
And I feel like I have an insight to men and an insight to women that I can sort of bring together and to make sort of a full picture for men.
So what would you be like your best dating advice right now?
There's no singular piece of advice.
Everyone's life and journey is different.
It depends on where they're at and what's going on with them and what their values and moral systems are and their belief systems.
And it's about taking it upon an individual basis and what they need.
Wait, so okay, hold on, just a finish.
Sure.
So you're seeing two guys.
How long have you been seeing both of them?
A couple weeks, couple months?
Like a couple weeks for one, well, let's see.
It's July.
I'm dating one guy who's Catholic that I met at church and then one guy that I met around my area in Williamsburg.
Okay.
Who lives in Arizona?
Williamsburg used to be ghetto.
It's not ghetto anymore.
It's so gentrified.
It's not ghetto anymore.
Yeah, no.
It's super gentrified now.
20 years ago, I wouldn't be fucking around with Williamsburg.
They're aware of each other, or they just know that you're dating other people.
Yeah, there's an agreement that since there's no commitment right now, that it's just the dating thing.
Do these guys know each other's IG?
No.
One of them doesn't really even use IG.
Red flag right there.
That's a big O.
Well, okay, just me personally, if I knew a girl was seeing another dude, well, even if there's not been a conversation about commitment, at least for me, I've lost interest.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I understand.
But they see other girls, though, right?
While they're waiting to see if it works out with you.
Well, to be fair, yeah.
It's like consensual on all sides.
So now, if you got into a relationship with one of them, could they still see other girls?
Yeah, I would let that happen.
Okay, so you outlined me.
Actually, that happened recently.
Polygyny.
Is that what you're looking for?
Are you polyamorous?
You're aimersive to them?
Yes, absolutely.
So she's saying a polygynous relationship.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, when I wrote about my relationship status when I came into the pod, I said I was dating but only sleeping with one person at the time.
That's changed.
Yeah, that has changed.
So now you're at back to zero.
Wait, so you were at three?
You had three.
There was the dude you're sleeping with and then the two dudes who you had not been sleeping with?
Yes, basically.
Okay.
All right.
Were you not satisfied with the one dude who you were?
I was.
He was actually.
He wanted you to see other dudes or no.
Okay, but you were.
No, but like not at the same time.
There was like a cutoff and then I started seeing.
Okay, so you were.
And it was close together enough.
You were just with him, but then that ended.
Then you started seeing two dudes.
Scottie.
Correct.
Kelly, it sounded like you had something you wanted to add there.
I just thought it was ironic that, like, it's just so, I was just confused.
I was, I was, it was a little.
Yeah, you guys are sitting right next to each other.
I know.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
It just sounded a little complicated.
That's why I was talking about it.
Yeah, it is complicated.
There's a little complexity to it.
That happens in relationships.
That's quite normal.
All right, Kelly, what about you?
Your situation?
I've been in a relationship for a year and six or seven, seven months now.
Okay.
Got it.
Still going strong.
Mike, what about you?
I've been in a relationship since last October.
My girlfriend is significantly younger than me, but it's worked out pretty well.
She helps out with the business and she understands my lifestyle.
And yeah, this worked out pretty well.
How old is she?
Business and pleasure.
She's 24 years younger than me.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I didn't know when I met her, she was like, yeah, I graduated college or graduated high school, blah, blah, blah.
And we met, I was hosting a bikini pageant in Mexico, and she was one of the finalists.
And she did not, I could just tell she wasn't, like, I thought she was the hottest girl there, but I knew she wasn't going to win because she had a boob job and because those girls just don't do well in pageants and also because she did not like deal with bullshit from the fucking from the judges.
So I was like, I know that this is going to work out.
And she's from Arkansas.
I'm from Texas.
So it just kind of worked out there.
And she's, yeah, she's been great since then.
I will say this.
I want to talk, because I was talking about this before.
She had the birth control thing taken out.
Totally different, bro.
Totally different.
It was something I want to talk about later.
Different part.
Yeah, totally different.
She had the birth control thing taken out like maybe in June.
Man, all that shit, before it was theoretical, I'm telling you right now, this shit is for real.
The birth control thing makes, bro.
I mean, it's just so, it's night and day.
So you're going to be able to get it.
The one right here inside of the water.
You want to feel it?
Was it Nex Planon?
I don't know what it was.
I saw them pull it out.
I was holding her hand when they pulled that fucking thing out of her like an alien.
It was all bleeding all over the place.
Wait, so when she was on birth control, she was one way.
After they got it got taken out, her personality changed.
So in what ways?
How was she before?
How was she?
So before, remember, she's 24 years younger than me.
And so there's a thing where I'm a U.S. military.
There's also the part where I'm a U.S. military officer and I run my own company.
And so the way I communicate with my employees and the guys who were in my squadron was very different.
I'm very direct.
When I communicate, I look at you.
I speak very loudly.
There's pauses in between the words.
And for her, she's from Arkansas and they just, you know, they talk some shit, you know?
And when she got the thing out, like the highs and lows just weren't there as much, which I've had with every relationship I've ever been in.
But with her, afterwards, she's just fucking fun now.
I just can't even explain it.
Ladies, before I was maybe 20, 30% on this boat, I'm 100% on this boat.
Get that fucking thing taken out of your arm.
For real.
That thing is crazy, bro.
I can't believe how different, like it is totally different.
And it wasn't just her.
It was just, I had a panel with eight girls on my show, Access Vegas.
And I said, how many of you guys have had birth control?
All of them raise their hand.
How many of you had it taken out?
All of them raised their hand.
And they're like, what's the difference?
It's like, I took it out.
I'm healthier.
I'm hornier.
Like, all this stuff happened when they took that birth control thing out.
So that's the thing.
I'd recommend that ring.
You know what I'm talking about?
Manuva ring?
No, it's a ring.
Not natural cycles, is it?
It's essentially like a natural way to track your colour.
Yeah, it can track our hormone cycle.
I got friends that have been doing it for years.
It's fucking great.
Copper IUD?
So the problem is inflammation.
It basically just causes inflammation.
It's not hormonal, though.
It's not hormonal.
It could actually grow into the cervix, and then you have to have it surgically removed.
And then you have problems having kids afterwards.
I've had many friends and family members that have not been able to have children after having.
Okay.
Isn't there a new one that got well?
I think there's two things that recently got approved when it comes to birth control.
There's one that's actually over the counter now that got approved, which is just a hormonal one.
And then there's one called Smexy or something.
Has anyone heard that?
The Smexy one?
Is that the like the gel?
I think that's Smexy.
Where do you put the gel?
I don't know.
Well, there are certain things that you can do like pre-sex to like act as birth control.
They're not as effective as hormonal birth control, but okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Relationship stuff?
I am single.
I've been so for almost a year now.
My longest relationship was five months long.
Longest was five months.
Okay.
And I mean, you were on the show about three weeks, four weeks ago.
Yep.
Any new developments on the any guys sliding into the DMs?
Any nothing?
Zero?
Zero.
Do you want guys to join the DMs?
Not particularly.
Okay.
Okay.
Rock and roll.
Okay.
So, a lot of you.
Actually, you know what?
I think the first thing we're going to do, Nick, we have a video that we must react to.
What?
Wait, what?
What was that?
Oh, hold on.
Two flannels donated $100.
Brian, I am back.
I see nothing has changed, so I will repeat what I said last.
You wear the same two flannels every day.
If you were a rapper, they'd call you two flannels.
You look like you're stuck in a 90s Pearl Jam music video.
Which Eddie Veda?
Thank you, man.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Actually, I have like three flannels, and you roasted me last time.
Should we talk about your dress code, Brian?
I dress for comfort.
I like the flannel.
What's wrong with flannel?
There we go.
I don't mind the flannel.
There we go.
Quality over quantity.
I said this last time.
I don't mind it for lounging around and when you're wanting to be comfortable.
He told me that this is what he would wear on a date, though.
And I have a little bit of an issue with that.
What's wrong with that?
Command you are.
Come as you are.
Wait, what's wrong with flannel?
Well, like, if you're going on a more formal date, then, you know.
Do you button it up or do you keep it open?
I keep it open.
I mean, if you're not going to be able to do it.
Brian, what if you were to just button it up, put some nicer pants on instead of the sweatpants?
Bring out the miss me jeans.
He's actually overdressed for a Los Angeles nightclub.
You guys realize that?
It's actually too formal for a club in the world.
I've never been to an LA nightclub.
I'll take you.
You tell me when.
I'll take care of you.
Anywhere you want.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well.
Hey, what about all the men in the chat?
Would you guys like if I was wearing this on a date with any one of you, like would you guys be cool with it or what?
Tell me in the chat.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Can you pull up the video, please?
Okay, so we're going to react to this.
This was on, it came up in my TikTok feed.
Go ahead and play it.
Let's see if the bars on the floor.
Oh, hold on, pause, Okay.
Scroll back.
You got put in the video tab.
Oh, God.
You got to.
Oh, we're.
Okay.
Then you got to click one of the.
It's probably the top one, The very top, very top, very top.
Yep.
Hide that one.
Okay, go ahead.
And start, start it from the beginning.
Screwed it.
Yep.
Let's see if the bar's on the floor.
This is the bare minimum for dating me.
Number one, ask me to be his girlfriend.
Literally, bare minimum.
We can go on dates, we can hang out.
If you do not ask me to be your girlfriend or some kind of a gesture, big or small, I'm not your girlfriend.
I am not your girlfriend, and I can't be seeing other people.
Number two, buys me flowers often.
Often for me, bare minimum, meaning once a month or at least once every like two months.
I'm like a self-care romanticized my life kind of girl.
So if you do not buy me flowers, I will be buying myself flowers.
It doesn't have to be like a huge bouquet of like 10,000 roses or whatever.
It doesn't matter how big the bouquet is every single time.
I just care to know that you're not only going to buy me flowers once just because I'm your girlfriend and like you secured the deal.
Like I'm going to need flowers like every so often.
You're not getting away with like one flower per year.
Listen the notes.
Picks me up and drops me off home unless otherwise stated.
If we're going somewhere, I do not care if your house is like inconvenient.
You're going to pick me up and you're going to drop me off like a proper gentleman.
Unless I am already right next to the area that we're going to meet in, you're going to have to pick me up and drop me off.
You should be caring about my safety, okay?
And just so you know, if your boyfriend's only coming to pick you up and drop you off if it's convenient to him, that is not love.
The people who love you don't only do things because it is convenient to do so.
Number four, offers to pay for every activity and doesn't expect me to do 50-50.
Not to say that I'm never going to buy you anything or that I'm never going to offer to pay for a meal, but if you are expecting me to pay, if you are literally expecting me to like pay, then you got the wrong girl.
Like, I'm sorry, I can't do it.
There are girls who like 50-50, just not me.
Follow-up part two.
Tell me if my standards are too high.
Are her standards too high?
Let's start with you.
We'll go around the table.
Go ahead.
No, I don't think they're too high.
She's honestly not asking for much.
And everyone has their own list of what their bare minimum is.
And I think it's cool that she has a list.
And it's good to have standards for dating because if you take dating seriously, then you have standards.
So nothing she was asking for was that crazy.
Every person has different standards and expectations.
But most of the time in dating, what people do is they choose a few qualities that we like in each other and then throw the way the rest.
And we want that person to be those qualities all the time.
But we'd be dating the whole person with all the qualities.
So if you have those standards, that's okay.
But you can't be picking somebody and then trying to choose their qualities.
I agreed with some things she said and some not.
I personally can't stand flowers.
So like, and I know that's like really traditional.
I do agree with the, he should not expect the 50-50, but you know, life is not black and white.
Each person's an individual.
They have their own thoughts.
But yeah.
And the driving thing, a lot of women now, they don't like being picked up for a first date because in case they have to leave.
So I kind of get the sense she wants more traditional men, but sometimes I don't agree with her.
They got to get back to their man.
You know what I'm saying?
During the day.
Oh, my man just texted me.
I got to go back.
So they drove themselves.
That's, you know, well, it's interesting that she, you did mention the getting picked up and dropped off thing.
But she also mentioned safety.
But I mean, well, if she knows the guy, I suppose it's fine.
But certainly for a first date, you know, a lot of women would not be comfortable, for example, going over to the guy's house immediately without having, well, some have no problem with it, but a lot of women would not just first time ever meeting, go to the guy's house.
So in that same vein, I don't think shouldn't you also feel a bit concerned about getting into a total stranger's car?
So I actually think for safety reasons, the best thing is to meet the guy there.
Even if that's not traditional, safety-wise, it's actually probably the best move to just meet the guy there.
But I suppose she's talking about a boyfriend.
Yeah, she's definitely talking about being in a relationship, not she's talking about the transition into a relationship, remember?
Because she said, you're not my boyfriend until you say this.
Yeah, but she's talking about like someone that she wants to keep seeing.
You know, this wasn't like anything to do with like just first date status.
Yeah, that's well, that's a great point.
But you know, the other thing is, though, if she wasn't attracted to the dude, none of that shit matters.
None of that shit matters, right?
If a guy, she goes on a date with a guy and he's not attracted to her and he goes, I want you to be my girlfriend.
She's going to be like, get the fuck away from me.
Like all the things she just said, they don't matter.
Because that's the thing when women say, I want a man to buy me flowers.
No, you want a guy who you're attracted to to buy you flowers.
If a motherfucker who you're not attracted to buys you flowers, you have to have status before you give status.
And that's why whenever I hear women say this stuff, like, guys, if you open, some guy's going to watch that and open up by just sending her flowers when she's not attracted.
That is a horrible mistake.
Showing vulnerability before you have attraction.
It's like putting in effort before you even know it's.
For sure.
Exactly.
There's nothing wrong with putting in effort before knowing.
I feel like sometimes it's cool to put the effort because you never know.
I was asking that right.
Got it.
But have you ever seen a guy and just been attracted to him and then going on a date with him and it gone really well that night?
Has that ever happened?
Like, yeah, I find that.
Okay, so you understand that now the guy who's sitting there putting in effort, you hooked up with a dude who just because you were attracted off the bat and now this guy's got to put in effort.
Do you understand how he might not want to put in effort?
Totally.
But like we're talking about, this is like a relationship thing.
So this is all pertaining to not hypotheticals, pertaining to someone she wants to pursue.
She's talking about someone that she wants to pursue and what she expects of someone that she also wants to pursue.
We're not talking about not someone you don't want you to like be giving you flowers.
She's literally talking about already being in that step of like, we like each other.
This is what I expect from us being in a mutual life.
What if she decides later on that she's like, oh, never mind, I don't know.
That's fine, but that's not what the person is.
But that's what you'll find.
No, no, no, I agree.
I was bringing up a hypothetical.
I saw this video as a transition into a relationship.
That's what I saw the video as.
Would she throw out all of those if she was attracted to the person?
Yeah, she might.
She wouldn't say that.
You know, so I'm saying, I will put my money on yes.
She would put the money.
She'll blow off her nose when she's going to be sleeping.
Whenever I hear a woman emphatically state over and over again how she will not sleep with a guy on the first date, that tells me emphatically she has slept with a guy on the first date.
Why else are you saying this?
I see this all the time.
It's like, again, like, if you are someone who just knows I'm going to sleep with somebody when I'm ready to sleep with them, you aren't even going to bring that up, right?
As men, we don't bring it up, but why do women bring it up?
Because you did sleep with Brock the bartender on your first date.
Because you did go out with a male stripper and slept with him on the first date.
And then the next guy you date, he's got to wait.
But it's different for him because he's not as attractive.
And the thing is, from those guys' standpoint, they don't want to be the one to wait when you let some other dude smash on the first date.
That's the problem.
You see what I'm saying?
That's the issue.
That's just, that's a different point of view.
I'm not saying that that's what she's saying here.
Obviously, we're assuming that both people are attracted.
But the thing is, when men watch this, they get confused.
And they start thinking when she describes these things that are comfort builders, she's described, what she's doing is describing comfort.
She's not describing attraction.
She's saying, I'm already attracted to you.
These are the things that I need you to do so that I can garner some control in the relationship.
What I found is this is just, it's a very generalistic way to say this, but things that build attraction, that where women find men more attractive, the woman is sort of losing power.
Like just again, he makes more money.
He's very good looking.
He gets a six-pack all of a sudden and other women are staring at him.
She's sort of losing power.
And things that where he's building comfort, the dad bod, you know, the dad bod myth, those are things where a woman is gaining power.
So when women, when she states every single one of those things, she's gaining power.
She's not paying 50-50 anymore.
He's going to pick her up.
And all the things she describes, she's gaining power.
Those are not attraction qualities.
Attraction qualities are women are generally losing power.
And then comfort qualities are generally where men are gaining power or where women are gaining power.
And so when you ask women what they find attractive, they describe what they find comfortable, which is why you hear girls say, I like the dad bod, which is a fucking lie over and over again.
No, you don't.
You do not choose short-term sexual partners with a fucking dad body.
What you do, though, is you see really rich, successful actors or people like Elon Musk with the dad bod and you're like, oh, that's sexy.
No, it's sexy because he's already famous.
It's just like if a regular dude goes around wearing a pink dress like Machine Gun Kelly, he looks like a fool.
He's a moron wearing a pink dress.
But Machine Gun Kelly is famous.
He can wear a pink dress because he's famous.
The rest of you just look like a clown wearing a pink dress.
So that's the difference.
You cannot give value unless you have value.
And a lot of times women open up by saying, send me flowers, tell me you're my girlfriend, all this kind of stuff.
And that's the problem.
You can't get open that way.
Thank you.
Thanks, John.
When Brian asked who would resort to physical violence if they caught their man cheating and who would just walk away, all the masculine girls raised their hand for violence slash fighting and the feminine girls raised their hands for walk away.
Creach.
And some girls didn't raise their hand at all.
Facts.
I'm mask and films.
Yeah, I'm involved.
So I can switch it real quick.
Yo, John Gaut, thank you very much for that, 100.
I mean, my personal view on that situation is I think the biggest thing you can do is just turn around, walk out.
If a woman cheats on you, she did you a favor, Pam.
I'm talking about it.
If you were in that situation, you don't understand that anger that's like built up and you're literally seeing it right in front of your face.
That's like, it's hard to just, you know, just be like, bye.
But you're going to see it.
You're going to see it in front of your face and you're going to react like that.
You're not going to have a, let me, let me.
Well, some girls.
Like, some girls react by fighting.
Some crypto.
Exactly.
Everyone reacts differently.
Yeah, and it's an initial reaction of anger that is just going to trigger you.
I wouldn't say that applies to everybody, though.
Yeah, no.
I will tell you this.
In the state of Texas, before I think 1983, if you killed your wife and her lover, if you caught them in the throes of passion, I think you were convicted of third-degree murder and had to serve zero time in jail.
I do believe that is the case.
I said base.
Based.
Yeah, I believe that is the case.
I think they've changed that law.
But at one point, if you had caught your wife sleeping with some other dude and you killed them before that, I mean, if you go back even further in the state of Texas, that wasn't even second.
Yeah, well, I mean, if you were to walk in on your girlfriend smashing another dude and it was your house.
Yeah, no, there'd be a problem.
That's a problem.
And I'm sure you would not just walk out.
No, I'm not.
I'm coming off.
That's why.
That's why.
Don't cohabitate with women.
But go ahead.
Oh, I was going to say, like, I mean, I totally understand what you're saying.
Like, that blind rage, you walk in, like, who's anyone to tell you how to respond to that situation when you're being so disrespected in a visceral way in front of your face?
It's still domestic violence.
Like, that's just that.
And it's not okay either way.
And, like, getting your anger out with violence means that you need to sort yourself through and have some respect for yourself, not to beat up a grown-ass man.
I mean, a lot of people, like, you know, do things to sort their violence.
I don't, I feel like that's not, like, some people yell and scream.
Some people cry.
Some people shoot guns.
Some people go swimming.
Some people do, a lot of people do a lot of bunch of stuff to like control their anger.
Right, but we don't, we, we don't, like, like, as a society, we don't, like, accept that as okay.
We accept that as, like, human reactions and responses.
But as humans, we also have the power of self-control.
You apply that logic to men, right?
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I mean, I wouldn't expect a man to go beating on his girl if he walked in on her.
And I'm sure you guys wouldn't either.
So, not, yeah, I'm seeing some like, I was like laughed at earlier for talking about, you know, how I'm a dating, I give dating advice, but also I'm like experiencing myself.
But like, this is domestic violence we're talking about.
And you're like, oh, but it's anger and rage.
It's like, we're not talking about domestic violence.
We're talking about domestic violence, not putting your hands on someone else.
First of all, domestic violence is in the house.
This was I just wanted to say that.
It's not like the simple thing.
Oh, sorry, sorry.
I got it.
Like, you know, it's not like it's a connection.
No one's dictated by one thing that happened in their life.
It's not going to be like, okay, this person beats someone up every single time.
So like, woke up.
She's done my partner.
And it's just like for you to be a coach and for you to project.
I'm not a coach.
I never said I was a person.
Whatever the fuck you are.
Whatever you put in.
You're being really rude right now.
I just don't understand why.
I'm down.
I'm talking right.
Like, keep it cordial.
You're being disrespectful.
I'm being mad disrespectful.
I'm chilling, right?
What did I say to you that was mad disrespectful?
How about higher?
How would I say right now?
How much doesn't agree with violence?
I do not agree.
I think violence is not that fair.
That's it.
That's totally fine.
And you said it's not in that.
He's not domestic violence.
But you said it's not domestic violence.
You just keep saying the same thing.
I'm not going to look it up.
So I'm contributing.
Why are you coming down to the bottom?
Bro, I'm coming down your throat because you're a freaking relationship guru over here.
No one said I was a violent guru.
People are putting me at guru, coach, all that.
I just said I give dating advice for men that come to me and want it and see what I provide.
And they come to me and they are.
All right, can we go to somebody else and help you?
Or you just give it out without anyone asking.
You haven't even been in a relationship, my girl.
So what are you talking about?
Genuinely.
What are you talking about?
See how she said I'm coming out here?
Look at her.
You projecting very hard.
You're really attacking me for no reason.
I'm just talking about violence attacking.
Bro, I don't have time for your attack.
Cool.
So I'll talk to anyone.
I can say the same thing.
I don't agree with violence hitting your partner, regardless of the gender, sex, whatever.
It's not okay to hate your partner, whether it's in the streets or in the home.
Look at that.
You have to have some self-respect and walk away and understand that that guy didn't respect you or that girl didn't respect you.
And this is all coming from.
A 26-year-old relationship TikTok guru gave me men advice with two men in your bed.
Let's go.
Next one.
Two men in my bed.
Did you not listen to me say that I'm platonic?
Did you not listen to me say I don't care?
Hey, do y'all ever think about death?
Whack.
That's black.
It's whack.
That's black.
Like, where do we go?
Like, honestly, like, what happens if you die?
Wait, I will say, I raised my hand when I said that I would have walked away if I caught my dude hooking up with a girl.
But this, like, brought back like a deep memory.
When I was about 17 years old, I had my first relationship.
I went out to the club, and who do I see making out on the wall?
My boyfriend with some girl.
And I lost my shit.
Things happen.
You live in London.
Hold on, no, it's not domestic violence.
I was inebriated and I was immature, and I don't think I would do that these days.
Yeah, so when you consider that you miss violence and you literally her seeing her man at the club kissing another girl and her doing something about it.
Yes, absolutely.
If you're putting her hands on another person that you're dating, it's domestic violence.
I don't know what more clearer definition you can.
Okay, hold on, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
Let me just play.
Yeah, actually, maybe we should.
Hold on.
Let me play devil's advocate a little bit here, though.
Like, is there no such thing as provocation?
Because someone could plausibly do something so vile that, even if they don't put hands on you, but they say something, like, is there must be some.
This is a great point.
So we talked about this.
So I would never hit a woman.
And then somebody said to me, okay, somebody has your nephew with a knife to their throat.
I'm going to beat the shit out of whoever.
I don't care if you're man or woman.
And they're like, oh, so you would do it.
And I just thought there's a limit for everything.
Okay.
What she's talking about, though, is domestic violence.
For sure.
I will say this because you guys are talking about women and women as men.
It doesn't make I'm not from a moralistic standpoint.
I wouldn't hit a woman.
But from a legal standpoint, we don't get the benefit of the doubt.
So no matter what happens, no matter who I hit, I'm going to end up getting sued, even if I'm completely in the right, because that's the way the legal code is written.
So I wouldn't do any of that.
Let's do this.
Go and rule always.
Hold on, let's do this.
Okay, we've already talked about the whole cheating, beating the shit out of your spouse, whatever.
Let's bring it back to the video.
So I think we left off with, I forgot who.
Did you get to give your take?
No, I did not.
Your take on the video?
I'm going to assume she has this list because it's from experience from her past relationships and it's like what she wanted and didn't get or what she got and like.
So I wouldn't say her standards are too high or a lot.
I think she just knows what she wants.
So it's like if you're not asking the wrong, you're not asking for too much, you're just asking the wrong person type thing.
I would guess that she had probably did dated a guy who did none of those things and stayed in it for a while and probably tried to manipulate, not manipulate, but try to, I'm trying to think of the word I'm looking for, try to change the situation to where he was monogamous and waited for him to become monogamous and those things never happened and her list comes from being super attracted to some guy who she kept going over and having sex with him in the middle of the night and he wouldn't commit.
I think that's probably that, just a guess, that's probably where that list came from.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They made us go to the notes.
There's a lot of things in the notes.
I mean, the notes are going to go viral on TikTok.
But she's also, I mean, she's going to go viral on TikTok.
She knows because she's going to piss a lot of dudes off.
And there's going to be some girls who are like, why would you do this?
You know, that kind of stuff.
What about you?
You know, like some other girls said, I think she's allowed to have her standards.
I personally think it's a weird list.
And I think I didn't like the presentation.
She's what she was abused on TikTok.
I guess it's satire or something.
It's got to be a slideshow.
It could be, but you never know.
I think we should be able to know what we want, our views, our morals.
We should be able to say it.
We don't need to know a list of things.
We should have boundaries for what our partner does, too.
Except for when Jonah Hill and his abuse, right?
Except for that abuse of the budget.
Oh my God, not the Jonah Hill.
You guys remember all the abuse?
It was abuse.
It's not him drawing his boundaries.
Remember, when he says, no matter what you do, I respect it.
You're a beautiful person, and I respect.
Oh, you forgot that.
Yeah, but at the same time, send me, take down these pictures.
This is appropriate.
This isn't.
What's his boundaries?
He gets to break up with her though.
Yeah, that's true.
He gets to break up with her.
Or she gets to walk away.
She gets to walk away.
And she did.
But here's the thing.
What about his boundaries when she doesn't release the messages until after he has a baby with someone else and then has the audacity to say, I hope you have a girl?
You're going to talk about my fucking children now?
You think, you talk about boundaries?
I know who the wrong person in this relationship was, and it wasn't Jonah Hill.
Agreed.
Okay.
This idea.
The other thing is surfers don't surf in bikinis.
This whole thing was, well, she's in a swimsuit, and it's the same thing.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Wait.
Sorry.
Wait.
What's the thing about what the fuck is going on?
The Jonah Hill.
Competition surfers do not surf in bikinis.
I don't know if you guys are aware of that.
That's the only point I was making.
And by the way, the thing is, if it doesn't make one thing on that, it depends where you're surfing.
Yeah.
For her, I don't think that's what she was doing.
So if it's wearing a wetsuit, that's just about the water temperature.
So you're not like, if it's a colder ocean temperature, then you're going to be in like wetsuit.
But like if you're in Indonesia or you're in Hawaii, I think it actually, at least for women, it's fairly common in warmer ocean temperature to surf in a bikini.
Wouldn't that be in the bikini?
Okay.
Wouldn't the girls come out or something?
Like surfing's like sports.
There's no way the bikinis the girls that I know wear they could surf it.
There's no way women do surf in bikinis, but in Southern California, and she's from, but she can do whatever she wants.
My point is he has the right to establish boundaries.
He was not manipulating her.
That is ridiculous.
It wasn't about whether or not professional surfers wear swimsuits or wetsuits.
It was what his preferences and boundaries were.
Well, let's do this.
Let's get back.
Let's get into the Jonah thing first, but I do want to give everybody a chance to react to the clip.
So you went, correct?
Did you get to go?
No.
I guess what she's bringing to the table matters a lot.
So if she's asking for a lot, what is she giving in return?
Also, I don't feel like there's going to be a big dating pool for rules like that.
Especially.
Can you pull the microphone, please?
Especially if she has high standards for men and they don't feel like she's meeting their standards.
I feel like higher standard men like that are going to have higher standards for their women.
You know what?
It's interesting that you brought up what she's bringing to the table.
She actually made a follow-up video of what, because a lot of people, in response to her TikTok were like, well, what are you bringing?
This is her response.
Go ahead.
Nothing.
I'm kidding.
Being communicative, being open to receiving, listening to his needs and wants, giving him little surprises because I also like getting him gifts and stuff.
Being a peaceful place for him to relax outside of work and stressful social attractions, just like being his piece, being a supportive girlfriend, and just being there with my energy.
I hope that answers your question.
Not that.
So, I mean, most of the things that she just listed in a relationship.
There were a couple things that were perhaps more so like.
Gifts was the only thing.
It was like, no, the only thing was peace.
That was the only thing she said right.
She didn't say anything right.
And you want to know the one thing of that group?
I guarantee you she can't provide him?
She is fucking peace.
That is the only one she can't do.
Well, she doesn't strike me as a peaceful person.
How the fuck are you going to be peaceful when you're nagging at him, telling him you have to do all this stuff?
I think she got that list from someone else's TikTok.
For sure.
She won't go about it with TikTok.
She didn't show her face.
She couldn't say with a straight face.
She didn't show her face in that video.
Nothing.
So your reaction to the.
I actually had the same exact reaction that you did.
I wanted to know what she was bringing to the table.
And like after seeing that video, I see that what she's saying that she's bringing to the table is somewhat similar to what she's requesting.
But the whole like, my presence, my energy is enough.
Like, yeah, that's not it.
That's not it.
Why is his presence and energy not enough?
Right, but he has to do the extra work.
And then she's.
Because we don't have presence and energy.
We work.
We accomplish things.
We build things and we protect and we protect people.
That's what we do.
We don't really have presence or energy.
Protect people from what?
Protect people from the world.
Protect anything.
Protect people financially.
Protect people.
Well, like I have family members that I protect them from getting scammed.
All the time I have older family members.
Women can do that.
And they're like, hey, I just got a call from this guy from Jamaica who wants my bank card number.
Protect people when they walk to their car.
That's our job.
That's the only one that matters with men is that you can be like a security guard.
For sure.
People say masculinity is muscles and money and sleeping with all these girls.
Masculinity is willing to protect and die for your tribe.
That is what masculinity is.
That's important.
Those men who stormed that beach in 1944 in France, those men were masculine.
That's what masculinity is.
Let me ask you a question, Mike, though.
Do you think that both sides are holding up their end of the bargain?
Because if it's man's duty to die for their woman in some sort of self-defense situation, do you think that the other side is holding up their end of the bargain?
So I've said this before, there are three genders.
There's high-status men, low-status men, and women.
High-status men and low-status men have nothing in common.
Nothing.
They don't have the same brain chemistry.
They don't have the same sexual partners.
They don't make the same amount of money.
They don't have the same physique.
Nothing.
They have nothing in common.
Literally, there's a book called Winner Effect that goes over the neurology of men who are successful in winning and men who aren't.
And there's nothing, they have nothing in common.
And so if you're asking me, do high-status men, do they fall short?
I'll tell you, no, they don't.
For the most part, they have something going for them or they're providing something.
Do low-status men fall short?
Well, they are the ones subscribing on OnlyFans.
So, I mean, you tell me, like, that is the issue.
So, we can't just say all men because men bifurcate way more than women do.
Because when I talk to older women, so on my show, one of the things we do is we always try to get at least one or two people with a master's degree, one or two girls that are married.
We try to get a different group, and we get the same answers.
It doesn't matter if they're 23 or 43, we get the same answers.
Women generally have the same answers when it comes to their hypergamy, whereas men, they're very different answers when you're at the top.
What you were saying before about catching your girl cheating, a guy who's high status is already on the phone with another girl before he even leaves the house.
He's like literally calling the dude an Uber to get him the fuck out of it.
He doesn't care.
He's got the movers coming over to take her shit out.
That's what a high-status man would do.
A low-status man is going to cry and bicker and beg for her to come back.
Do you see?
Like that's not even the same fucking species.
That's completely different.
Yeah.
You said that a high-status man really never falls short?
No, no, he's not that he never falls short, but in one case or another, he has access to scarce resources and he has the ability.
He has the ability to garner status.
So a high-status man could be like the guy who ran Enron.
That's a very duplicitous, evil high-status man, okay?
Like Joseph Stalin or Pol Pot.
That's an example of a high-status man who is very evil.
It doesn't mean they're all.
That's extra, but okay.
No, I'm hearing you.
I'm using an extreme example.
Yeah, I'm hearing you.
I'm hearing you.
I could use one other example.
You want to get us kicked off on YouTube?
I think I know where you are.
Yeah.
Okay.
But yeah, but I've been doing a lot of studying this week.
I've got a debate coming up.
Wait, was Genghis Khan?
Oh, of course.
So, I mean, no, this is a great example.
Like, Genghis Khan, his Y chromosome.
So for men, you can actually trace the variety and Y chromosome.
That's why we know throughout history, about 80% of women and only 40% of men have reproduced because we can measure the Y chromosome.
And so when you look at Genghis Khan, at one point, I believe it was like 8% of all men that lived in Asia had the same Y chromosome, which was from Genghis Khan and his son Kulia Khan back in the 15th century.
So like when you realize that, that's what men were doing.
They were conquering and that kind of thing.
That doesn't mean they're always good.
That doesn't mean they're always good.
If you find a good man who's also high status, that's great.
A lot of times men are high status.
They express the opportunity to cheat.
That doesn't mean that cheating is okay.
A lot of people, whenever I read the David Buss studies, they think, oh, you're just qualifying.
You're saying cheating is okay.
No, we're not saying, nobody's saying that cheating is okay.
But a lot of them do cheat and women have a hard time understanding why it is that happened.
So what they'll do is they'll say, I want a higher and higher and higher status man.
And then you explain to them, well, it's going to be a higher probability of them cheating.
And then they don't want to hear that.
They're like, no, they don't believe that.
To add to that, I felt like I was really judged earlier for saying that I dated a guy that slept with other women and I was exclusive to him.
But at the end of the day, it was two guys at the same time and you told them about each other.
That's what they're talking about.
Well, they actually requested that we just court and not do anything too serious until we get to know each other further.
Like that was pretty much.
You met two men in Brooklyn who did one.
No, not in Brooklyn.
Oh, I'm not saying they don't want to have sex, but one of them is Catholic, so they're a virgin.
They won't have sex until they're married.
And the other, I just...
Does this guy have a channel on Rumble?
No?
No, get my bad.
I'm sorry.
Well, so to your point about the high-status men.
Well, my point was low-status men don't have the ability to cheat.
High-status men are the ones who are cheating.
I would agree with that.
When we say women, men always cheat.
No, you just keep dating the same VIP host, male stripper, bartender over and over again, and you think that's indicative of all men.
And then I take you to Jack in the Box or I take you to Walmart and you look at the cashier and you're like, who's he fucking?
And you didn't even see him.
You didn't even see that he was a man.
You can't even imagine that this man has sex with anyone.
So that's the thing.
A lot of times when women ask the question, who are they talking about?
They're talking about the dude who fucked them over and they think that's men.
And that's just not the way it works because there's just two very, very distinct classes of men.
Did you give your reaction to the video?
Oh, shit.
Yo, stay safe.
Thank you for the Twitch raid, man.
Guys, stay safe.
He's a Giga Chad World of Warcraft player.
He's been on the show two times.
Yo, stay safe.
Thank you very much for the raid.
Maybe we'll talk about World of Warcraft.
Did you ever play World of Warcraft, Mike?
A little bit, not very much.
I was way, way more Age of the Empire.
Oh, Age of Empires.
Anybody here like a World of Warcraft?
If I play Guild Wars, I think it's better.
That's not World of Warcraft, but okay.
That's the same MMO, RPG.
I already did it.
I tried it one time, but after like a couple days, I wasn't into it.
But I like video games, but I just don't like that style.
Yeah, it's only when I'm at Oblivion.
I did everything, every other game except that one.
Yo, Matt, thank you for the raid, man.
I really appreciate it.
I did.
I gave my opinion.
Kelly, what about you?
Your thoughts on that video with that girl?
I think everyone's allowed to have standards.
I think hers were a little bit much.
They're a little kind of like delusional, you know?
I think the flowers every month is a little bit much because if he's doing a bunch of these other things for you, if he forgets to buy you flowers is one month, why is that a big deal?
And a lot of it is just like, how can you ask for these things when you're not bringing anything to the table that actually matters?
Okay.
Mike, did you want to give a further take on it?
She has the right to say whatever she wants to say and believe that those are her standards she can express.
However, the likelihood of her when a man acquiesces to those standards she states, she is going to find him to be wanting.
That's what I would say the probability is.
Meaning, she's going to meet a guy who off the bat says, oh, I watched your TikTok video and I'm going to go ahead and buy you flowers every month.
And her vagina is going to go, it's going to dry up just like that when she does that.
Because essentially, can a woman like that get a man?
Of course.
Oh, these men are simps.
I don't know.
You saw the recent study that came out.
It was men under the age of 35 never married.
It's like 33% of men and 33% of women have zero sex in the last year.
Of course, she's going to find a dude who's desperate.
100% she'll find him.
But when she gets in that relationship, she's going to realize, oh, I don't want him.
I don't want him.
And then she's going to leave.
The man that she does want, the reason, he probably already was with her and he didn't do any of those things that she stated.
And that's why she has those rules because another guy didn't do those things and just got to have sex with her without being in a relationship.
Priya, what about you?
I think her quote-unquote expectations are pretty delusional.
Those were all very kind gestures that if we were in a relationship with somebody, that those are things that I would love for them to do occasionally, but they are not the standard and they're not something that I would absolutely expect them to do 100% of the time.
Again, it's a kind gesture, but that's not something that should be expected out of a relationship, especially with how little she's bringing to the table.
And like you guys said, how she claims that she brings peace into a relationship.
Somebody that holds standards like that is not a peaceful person.
Yeah, she doesn't, she comes off as super entitled.
And I don't think entitlement particularly coincides with bringing peace to a relationship.
So, but I mean, anybody who's on TikTok whinging like that, there's no way you're bringing fucking peace to a relationship.
So thank you, everybody, for your reactions to that.
I have a couple, some of you so graciously provided some pre-show notes for us.
So we're going to go through a couple of those.
We have quite a bit, so I'll enough we'll be able to get through everything.
But, okay, so we have you here.
You said you slept with a scary rapper once.
Oh my god, did I put that in there?
Sorry, did I put that in there?
Does he know that he was scary?
Because he's watching right now.
We have 79,000 people watching right now.
He's one of them.
No!
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
You're calling me out here.
I don't know why I put that.
Yeah.
One time I went and I had such a crush on this guy and then we ended up hooking up and it scared the bejesus out of me because he we were hooking up a gun out and put it on the he was having a gun on him.
Wait, guns are scary?
How long ago?
How long?
Never come to Texas.
How long?
I'm going to walk on the table.
I was like never in my wild.
Maybe like 25.
Okay.
Who's the rapper?
Does he lose your life?
No, I'm in no way telling you guys.
I forgot to say that.
You don't want young Dolph to know.
Never mind.
I'm going to go to the next step.
As a rapper, would you expect anything less from him to not keep a gun on him?
Maybe I'm just too innocent.
I've never seen a gun in my life, so it was just shocking.
Just out of curiosity.
The real?
Did you go on multiple dates with him?
No.
You just met him the one time, just backstage.
It was whatever.
Okay, got it.
Was this before or after your husband?
Oh, before.
It was like before.
How long?
YOLO days.
Oh, YOLO days?
Well, I just divorced him now, so this was like seven years ago.
Okay, got it.
You're from Canada?
Yes, sir.
Rapper Drake.
Oh, my God.
I wish.
No.
Imagine Drake.
I wish.
She'd be saying Drake.
She would be sitting stunned on all these girls.
Yes, Drake.
Someone said Flava Fame.
Face tattoos?
Did he have face tattoos?
He had body tattoos.
Name some lyrics.
You guys.
Oh, no, you're girling here.
He was a white rapper.
Okay, he is no longer here.
I have a machine gun camera.
No, I was in America.
I mean, white rapper was ugly?
Did GEZ have good lyrics?
Hey, yo, yo, yo.
Hey, why are you talking right now?
Sorry.
Please, if other people are talking, let them talk, okay?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
But yeah, that's.
I'm not going.
Oh my God.
I feel like one of those people.
Like, I'm not going to tell you.
But no, I cannot.
I'm not going to be able to do that.
So GEZ was good in bed.
Is that what you're saying?
Alan's a white rapper, dude.
Okay, and it was years ago, and that is.
But we would all know him.
We would all know him.
I don't.
Maybe some of y'all.
He's not like A-list, I don't think.
Oh, he's not A-list.
So Juice World was okay in bed.
Is that what you're saying?
Oh, he's not white.
My bad.
Yeah, I was like, what?
I'm just trying to get.
I'm trying to catch it.
I'm trying to catch you.
Trying to catch you.
I'm sitting out like that.
No, I can't.
Did he want to?
Like, I've definitely heard that there's a kink where women will want either a knife held up to them or like a gun held up to them.
Was it that kind of thing?
It was kind of, don't get me.
It was kind of like it gets your adrenaline pumpkin, right?
Whether you like it or not.
I was like, whoa, whoa.
Wait, so hold on.
You were at a concert.
He was performing in the concert.
No, it was Paul Wall with Slim Thompson.
Slid into the DM.
Slid into your DMs.
I slid into his.
Oh, you slid into him?
Not thinking anything, like, as a joke, kind of.
And then he actually responded.
And then he's like, oh, come to the studio.
Okay.
Wait.
Okay, how many followers did you have when you slid into his DMs?
Zero.
Nobody.
You know what's interesting?
The reverse would never happen.
Like a dude sliding into Ariana Grande's DMs who's got zero followers.
I don't know.
She's dating food.
Do you see who she's dating right now?
Look at who she's dating right now.
She's a Broadway actor.
No, no, no.
They got divorced.
They got divorced.
Look at who she's dating now.
That'd be crazy.
Well, he's a person who's a bad person.
But when you messaged Paul Wall, did he have a bunch of followers at the time?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's why I listened to it.
I'm going to get it.
I'm going to figure out who it is.
I sent it as a joke.
I sent it as a joke.
Mac Miller is still dating.
I'm still alive, Joe.
I'm playing blues clues over here.
So, okay, in your other notes, you said that you were dealing with a husband who hated his job, but I became his sugar mama.
Oh, yeah, that was a good idea.
Yeah, we kind of already talked about that.
I didn't think you guys were actually going to call me out on this stuff.
I just put it.
I sent it in real quick.
So, were you, but you chose to marry him, right?
But it's not, I mean, you did say, hey, like, it was the pandemic.
I didn't know the scope of his unemployment.
But you characterized it as being his sugar mama.
But, so, I mean, isn't it the case that many women today, they're out earning men, female doctors, lawyers, et cetera?
So, like, why is it that a male breadwinner is considered normal for a man, but when a female is a breadwinner, it's considered to be dating down.
Well, I see where you're going with that, but you remember I said he was not ambitious?
Like, that was the issue, right?
If you're like working hard and helping out and you just make less than me, like, go for it.
But if you're going to sit there and be lazy and I have to provide for you, that's when you feel like a sugar.
So, kind of like men in general?
Well, kind of just like, what did his lack of ambition look like?
I guess you have a good point, but I feel, I don't know, like a woman in a sugar baby situation usually what brings like, you know, she dresses sexy for you, she'll do stuff around the house, like I feel like they bring more to the table.
They'll probably have like a little side hustle, you know, have a little boutique where they don't be trusted.
One of the island boys.
Oh my God.
If you were making like significantly more and you said, hey, I want to not work anymore since you have the funds to you guys.
I'm not like a bajillionaire here.
I'm still working hard.
Most men aren't bajillionaire.
Yeah, but like it wasn't enough that, oh, I make so much money where I can take care of us both and live lavishly.
Like you need to bring something too.
It was just his demeanor about it.
And like I said, just no ambition.
That's the turn on.
I'm curious, who was better in bed?
husband or Takashi 6ix9ine which one was which one was better Get over it.
Okay, I'm checking though.
I want to see a reaction.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not a vote.
She can lie about the race of the rabbit.
I know he's the Spanish.
She's like, Eminem.
Oh, my God.
Imagine.
And the last note from you here, and we were actually talking to some degree about this a little earlier.
You said that I think that people judge OnlyFans girls too much, and that a guy can't handle a girl showing off her body, or that a guy who can't handle a girl showing off her body is insecure, like the recent Jonah Hill text message.
We'll get to that in just a sec.
Hold on.
Thank you, John.
Appreciate it.
Can you ask the girls what their political leanings are and if they would be willing to date a guy with the opposite political leanings?
P.S. would be cool to get Destiny and Farah back on the show.
Oh, yo, John, thank you very much.
Yeah, we can definitely ask that question.
Appreciate it.
And I think we actually have Destiny coming on Thursday for a debate.
We're not doing a dating talk.
We'll go around the table really quick.
So, political leanings.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, you're good.
You're good.
We're talking about politics.
Yeah, are you liberal?
Democrats?
I'm nothing.
Conservative.
Politics.
Moderate.
Apolitical.
Zero.
Okay, what about you?
I be feeling like politics is bullshit, but social issues are important to know where you stand.
Word?
Okay, what about you?
I lean, I guess, more liberal, but independent.
Okay.
Green Party.
That's a lot less.
That's a lot of volume.
I really like the environment.
So two times I voted in my life was for the Green Party, but I think that's a lot of people.
You said like co-terrorism or something.
I mean, you said it, not me.
I'm not getting kicked off this platform.
I don't think I have political views.
It's kind of just like, you know, right from wrong.
Like, you know better.
I don't know if you're not.
I feel like people just each other.
The liberal, conservative, moderate, moderate.
Not particularly.
Some people just don't really care about political.
I just don't care.
That's fine.
What about you?
I'm a moderate conservative.
Okay.
Ideally, communist, but I believe in human flaw.
So realistically, social capitalism.
So like a blend of socialism and capitalists.
So communists?
Ideally.
China's not a real communist country.
It's socialism.
Are you a tanky?
Yeah.
I personally like different forms.
So like pick and choose.
Okay.
I wouldn't say China's exactly doing it right, but like I agree with their like limited population rules, like stuff like that.
But I don't know.
They don't have that anymore.
But you don't.
I know you.
That is a part of like some kind of.
Okay.
I used to be extremely leftist, raging, SJW feminist.
I'm more of like centrist liberal now.
Okay.
I don't pay attention or care too much about politics.
So.
If you were a moderate 20 years ago, you are a conservative now.
There is no way to like, if I just, I don't even have to say what I am.
If I just had normal, moderate views in 2000 today, I am considered a conservative.
I agree.
Yeah, it just lives like, and it's the basic common sense things I would be called a politically conservative.
And I try to say, no, I'm more moderate.
And then I have, like, I talk to people.
I'm like, no, this is not, I guess I'm not moderate.
I guess I'm not.
You probably shouldn't be talking to a nine-year-old about switching genders.
Like, that doesn't sound right to me.
It doesn't, like, I don't go off and be, man, I'm super fucking politically conservative.
That just makes sense to me.
You know what I'm saying?
And I just don't understand.
So the things, whatever I believed, because the Oberton window keeps shifting to the left, I'm left behind because I'm 45 years old.
I just look conservative.
Priya, what about you?
I completely agree with your point, actually.
A few years ago, I would have said I'm very moderate conservative.
Now I'm being pushed much more right with how drastic things are becoming.
Rock and roll.
Okay, let's get a couple chats in.
We have Ronnie C here.
Hey, thank you, man.
Hey, Brian, great show.
Priya's accents, smile, kind of cute.
Shooting my shot, Priya.
Let's go skydiving in LA.
Question mark.
Get a drink first date.
Obviously, I'm a pro-athlete too from London.
I'll DM Brian and Michael.
God bless and bring Destiny back.
Yo, Ronnie C., thank you very much for your very generous chat there.
Appreciate it.
Priya, he's an athlete, wants to go skydiving.
It sounds like a sketchy first date, though.
Yeah, that's.
We're jumping right to skydiving.
I don't know about that.
It's kind of because of the implication, you know, you're on.
Sorry, can I ask who's destiny?
You guys keep mentioning Steve.
Yeah.
He's a really good debater.
He's a little bit left of center.
He's a guy.
Isn't he a blue-haired guy?
Yeah, yeah.
And he's, he's because all the red pill guys sort of like gang up on him, he's always there.
One of the things I appreciate about him, he's always willing to take on these really cantankerous debates.
And he's like, I admit he's a better debater than me.
And he does tons of fucking research.
He's awesome.
And so we did one debate.
He and I did one against each other on Fresh and Fit.
And I just learned to really respect the dude.
I'm doing a pretty big debate in a couple weeks, and I'm actually picking his brain, even though we don't agree on everything, about some things that I'm going to be debating on.
So yeah, in this space, I would say he's the best debater that there is.
He's really well pronounced.
All right, Rivers View.
Hey, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Cheating or not, never start physical violence.
Male deletion stats due to results of DV are comparable to female homicide.
Violence never right and domestics hurt on both sides.
Stats, not worth debate, girls.
Cheating is a civil case.
Hitting is criminal.
Okay, fair point.
It's very fair point.
Yeah.
Yeah, Rivers View.
Good.
Fair enough.
Yeah, I mean, look, despite the temperature that might be raised if you catch a girl cheating, obviously, it's not worth fucking catching a case over that shit.
Just move on, get out of there.
Like, you know.
But, yeah.
Although I do like, what about the dude?
You know, what if it's your best friend?
Then you have to settle that.
That's such a betrayal.
I challenge you to a duel.
Yeah.
You knew what you were doing.
You knew an asshole rules on the table if you got caught.
Hold on, hide that.
Here we go.
777, 777.
777 septillions.
777 sextillion.
777 quintillion.
777 quadrillion.
777 trillion, 777 trillion, 777,777.
7,777, 7 women.
Pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, sloth.
Name seven books.
Name seven.
Anybody here, name seven books.
Go.
Into the wild, the great gaps be.
It's kind of a funny story.
Don't name a school required readings.
No, you read it.
That's all beautiful.
No, books are boxes.
Come on.
All right, we have Bender the Offender here.
Hey, thank you, man.
Ladies, what do you think the median income for men is in?
Oh, here we go.
It's my favorite.
Let's wait until we have her back from the bathroom.
Bender, I'll pull this one back up.
What do you think the median income for a man in the United States is?
Median.
Yes.
Median.
Median or average?
Median.
Okay, median.
So you would stack them all together and you would take a mean would be averaging them all, which would be higher because there's some people who are trillionaires.
But median is going to be stacking them all and then taking the one that's at the 50th percentile.
That's a median, isn't it?
Yeah, we have Canuck here.
Hey, thank you, man.
Can you please bring on Fuentes and Zirka?
They're great as a duo.
Very entertaining and insightful.
Can 5 to 10 extra viewership.
Easily biggest, women respect.
Yeah, okay.
I don't know Nick, but I like John.
John is my boy.
Shout out to John.
No comment.
Okay.
No comment.
Okay.
And then once she's back, we'll pull this one back up, Bender.
All right.
We have this one here.
Okay, ladies, what do you think the median income for men is in today's society?
We'll start with you.
Go ahead.
I have to get up for a sec.
Cool.
The median income for men in the United States.
I actually have a bunch more stats, so we'll go.
50,000.
50,000.
How old do you think it is?
25K.
25,000.
What do you think it is?
40.
40?
45,000.
45,000.
What do you think it is?
I think it's 30-something.
30?
60?
60?
Anywhere from like 30 to 50.
30, 50?
30.
Okay.
I'm going to say in the 40s, but I'll say 42.
That's crazy.
So usually we do this, and it's all the girls say, well, it's 170,000.
He probably makes 100,000.
He's got to at least.
We'd be dating Keep.
He's got to make it 70.
It's about 39.
It's about 39,000.
I think the newest number is like 42,000.
And then for a household, I want to say it's 70,000.
Right?
Okay.
The top 10% of wage earners.
What do you think it is?
Top 10% of wage.
Top 10% are wage earners in the United States.
What do you think?
What number would you have to cross?
80.
80?
150K.
150?
100.
Okay.
It was like 120.
120?
80.
Okay.
This is only top percent.
Top 10%.
I would say close to a million.
Close to a million.
I would agree with 80.
80.
Wait, is the question like how much?
Top 10%.
You put you in the top 10%.
How much money are you making?
Of income earners.
So we're not talking about guys who own like a bunch of rental properties.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Like 130?
What do you think?
I would say 90.
90?
It's about 170 is about the top 10%.
The top 1%.
What do you think it is?
Top 1%?
I didn't know it went past 170.
I would say maybe like 250.
250 for 1%.
500K.
500?
Yeah, 500K.
Like 475.
You guys are dry.
You are way, like, I've done this a bunch of times.
I don't know if maybe you guys have saw this, but I'm used to every girl saying 4 million, 10 million, 20 million.
Keep going.
I'm going to get in trouble for these wrong answers.
By my boyfriend.
Yeah.
Shit.
I don't know, 400K.
I'm so disappointed with the last answer, but I'm going to hope a million.
A million?
You said the top 1%.
Top 1%.
Yeah, I guess like close to a million.
400.
400.
Top 1%.
I'm going to say 400.
So it used to be about 450.
Now it's about 650.
About 615 somewhere in that area.
We'll put you in the top 1%.
And the top 01% is about $3.2 million.
So the reason why I think it's a little different is because when we do the show, the show in Miami or the show we do in Las Vegas, a lot of those girls are around guys in bottle service.
Those guys are buying $10,000 tables, $100,000 tables.
And so people start to believe that that's what the normalcy is.
But no, it's $39,000.
How tall do you think the average guy is in the United States?
Anybody?
5'8.
5'8?
What do you think?
6'0?
Six foot?
I think it's 5'9 if I know that reason.
Yeah, I think it's fine.
What do you think?
5'9?
I think it's like 5'8, 5'9.
What do you think?
5'7.
Go ahead.
Like 5'6 to 5'8.
5'8.
5'8.
It is either 5'8 or 5'9.
It's crazy.
Again, you guys do a lot of reading.
Congratulations.
I want to hear you guys name three countries.
The answer is 5'9.
Yeah.
The number of men, the number of, just real quick, the number of men, the percentage of men over six feet tall.
What do you think it is?
Anybody?
Over.
Over six feet.
You're talking about U.S. statistics, correct?
Yeah, U.S. statistics, yeah.
What do you think?
Percent of over six feet tall.
Out of like 100%?
Yes.
Sorry.
Only percent.
That's what's called percent.
Okay, yes, correct.
25.
25.
20. 20.
25.
Okay.
15.
15.
I don't see a lot of touch.
Five.
Five.
Ten.
Ten.
Can you repeat the question?
Of men over six feet tall.
What percentage of men in the United States are six feet or taller?
No, like maybe 20%.
That's a lot.
It is 14%.
So ladies, I want you to think about this for a second, okay?
So when ladies come out there, and maybe, you know, maybe because we're in a college town, it's a little bit different, but often we'll get makes $100,000 a year.
That puts you in the top, I think, 26 or 28 percentile over six feet tall, that puts you, or six feet or over, that puts you in the top 14 percentile.
Remember, those don't stack.
They actually, it's 14% of 26%, right?
And then we go, not married, not obese.
I mean, if you ever use the delusional calculator, you end up finding out that when women say that I want six feet tall, six pack abs, you know, not married, makes over six figures, we're talking about 0.5% of the population, 0.3% of the population.
And so then you have a woman like this woman on TikTok saying, these are all the things that she wants in a relationship.
That's why I was saying before, from a statistical standpoint, the likelihood of her finding that guy is like three-tenths of 1%.
Got it?
Now, we do the opposite.
All the guys, we take the same test.
But of course, we as men do not care about height and we do not care about money.
And so because of those, our dating pool is much greater.
So for a man who makes $200,000 a year, he's choosing between, say, 9% to 14% of the population, whereas she's choosing between like 0.3% of the population.
Do you understand?
And this is why men cheat.
It's just a function of so it's a socioeconomic, it's a mathematics problem.
That's the reason why.
Because for men to meet the standards that you're saying, there's just so fewer of them.
I'm not excusing men cheating.
I already know there's going to be a TikTok made of me talking shit.
But that's the reason why, is because these men at the top, a higher tier, have options.
What social media did is it did not make it easier for men to meet women.
It made it easier for a small group of men at the top to meet all of the women.
Does it make sense?
So if you look at body counts with men, there's another study they do.
The top, I'm going to say like 26% of men under the age of 30, something like that, have had still a virgin.
Is it some ridiculously high number and it's getting higher?
And then you have the men over, the top 5% of men have 150 bodies.
So for men, it's flat and then it goes like this.
And then the average man, I think, is like they've had six sexual partners in their entire life.
So we're up to 33%, we're like at zero.
At the 50th percentile, we're like at six, and then we shoot up to 150.
Do you see it like that?
Whereas men, for women, it's more linear.
For men, there is this group of men at the top that are having all getting all the attention from women.
So can I say a question?
So for high-value, high-status men that have all of the options, right?
That only reaches like, that's like RK selective theory.
Like it only reaches a critical point until like it falls off and you actually can't maintain those options anymore.
So like if you're talking about like, let's just use an example of like the red pill community, right?
And you would consider a lot of those men like encouraging other men to become high value, high status men, right?
So, and along with that rhetoric also comes with provision for the women that they're dating.
Yeah, it could be provisioning or they could just show access to scarce resources.
And what I mean by that is the guy who has the yacht and you come on the yacht, but he's not provisioning for you.
Not necessarily.
Drake doesn't provision for a lot of the women he sleeps with, but he still shows access to no, I'm saying all of them.
There are women who are attracted to Drake that he does not provision for, and there are women that Drake sleeps with that he does not need to pay.
That's my point.
Sure, back to the channel.
All right, hold on.
Let's try to move on from this.
Okay, so let's see here.
We had, I don't know if we want to do this other chat.
We did have another video to react to.
I want to try to loop in the rest of the table here.
If you can pull up the hold on, let's just here, I'll read it while it's up.
Only in modern America would a girl in the street fighter clown costume believe hold on shit.
Let me re-trigger it.
Shots fired.
Believe that the deadliest doctrine in history is ideal.
As they say, it is easy to be a communist in a free country.
It is impossible to be free in a communist country.
Exactly.
I don't believe in ideal freedom.
I think humans are flawed.
So if you give them access to like all the freedom, like for instance, we have the freedom to delete someone, but you will be punished for it.
So technically, you're not free to do that.
So then you're going to put other people who are, you're saying, flawed in charge of.
No, I said communism is not ideal in terms of human like flaws.
So ideally, I would want a communist utopian society, but I believe that's not achievable because of human flaw.
Yeah, if it's a utopian society, you also don't need communism.
Yeah, you wouldn't need communism.
Right, you wouldn't need communism.
I just like to use communism because that's what people relate to most.
The idea of a utopian society was communist rhetoric.
In reality, if you had a utopian society, you wouldn't need people with guns to make you do things for your brothers.
That would be something different.
Let me see.
By the way, Mike, I didn't mean to cut you off.
I thought, I don't know if there was some more back and forth.
If you wanted to continue your point, feel free.
Oh, no, just going back to it's a socioeconomic thing where women, like I, Rolo and I are all about the description, not the prescription.
What we're trying to explain to people is that as we go forward, there's a small group of men who have a ridiculous access to women because of social media, and a large group of men who have no access at all.
And because those men don't have access, you see angrier and angrier groups of men.
I had Richard Reeves, he's a PhD on my show.
He was working for the deputy prime minister in the UK, and he's a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute, a serious academician.
And he was saying, because academics did not want to have the conversation about men falling behind, that's why Andrew Tate had that conversation, and that's why he became so popular so fast, because academics didn't even want to acknowledge that there could possibly be a problem where men were falling behind as far as relationships that were concerned, as far as jobs were concerned, as far as education was concerned.
5% of psychologists under the age of 30 are men.
5%.
Do you understand what's going to happen to the entire field of psychology?
Well, yeah, in 2050, women will essentially take over.
There are more female military pilots than there are male kindergarten teachers.
Like, we have gotten to the point where certain we there are certain institutions where men have completely fallen behind.
While women have gotten into accounting, becoming doctors, and some of them getting into engineering, men did not become nurses.
Men did not become kindergarten teachers.
And so we are having this large group of men that are unwanted and somewhat feel unnecessary.
And 68% of college graduates are female.
60% of people in college are female.
And so because of that, you have a bunch of women who are trying to become the men that they wanted to marry.
And they look at the men that they left behind, and there's nothing there for them.
On Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge, 83% of right swipes go to 20% of men.
20% of men are getting 83% of the right swipes.
That is incredibly unbalanced.
That means 80% of men are competing for 17% of women.
And then you wonder where all this anger and angston comes from.
So feminists can get out there, the new Barbie movie can come out, all this type of shit can happen.
But you have to remember these men exist.
And if you don't, that's when these massive problems happen.
I'm not trying to criticize any of you.
I'm just saying in general in society, we try to sweep these men under the rug and act like they don't exist because they don't have luck with women.
And that's the reason why, like, that's the problem is because, and then when women complain about men, they're complaining about men who cheat.
And to a bunch of men who are like, cheat, cheat?
I've never had a girlfriend.
How the fuck am I going to cheat?
I think that there's a fundamental misunderstanding and chasm between men and women.
I think that like, well, essentially the red pill movement was a response to like postmodern feminism, like the fourth wave of feminism, like in the same way that like postmodern feminism was a response to like how women felt like towards men.
And I think men weren't expecting it.
I think they were shocked.
I think they were uncomfortable.
I think that they couldn't like really understand the level of vitriol that women really have for men.
But I think right now, like the pendulum is swinging to like, now we're talking about men, we're talking about we're focusing on them.
But I also see that there's like seeds of like disdain and hatred.
Like you say, like women, you know, they like you're focusing on this point that like women cheat, right?
Like and like that's like their main thing.
But women cheat or men cheat?
What are you talking about?
I'm confused.
Well, you were saying earlier that like that like, what did you say about cheating just like a few minutes ago?
You're talking about how men cheat?
Oh, was it exciting?
Yeah, it was about why men.
Like from a socioeconomic standpoint, a man, because I have some friends of mine, even before I was, you know, financially successful, I'd go hang out with them in their, you know, their nice apartment in Miami.
And the number of women that were just hitting them up, I was like, Jesus fucking Christ.
Like, how is this possible?
Like, they had infinite options.
And then my buddy who worked at CVS had no options.
And there was no middle ground.
So what is he doing?
The mind at CVS?
Is he going out?
Is he making himself available?
Like, it's all about online.
Like, what kind of ridiculous thing that people only like date by going online.
Like, I don't even have online dating apps.
I meet people outside in real life.
A lot of the time nowadays, a lot of women would just be completely turned off by a man that says that he works at CVS.
Even that's not true though, bro.
I see people that are mentally challenged not to like go on a loop with anything like, you know, I see people that have serious things going on and they find happiness and they find someone else.
You know what I mean?
That's not the rule, though.
I was going to say, let her talk.
She let her talk.
Wait, did you date someone who was special?
No, no, but I've seen it.
I physically, we've all been in school.
We've all went to public school, private school, high school, whatever.
You see a bunch of things.
You see people make it.
They make movies about certain people.
Like anybody, there's 8 billion people.
There's someone out there for everybody.
That's just pointless, period.
It's harder to find someone equal.
It's harder to find somebody equal if you're just doing the same thing every day and you live the same repetitive life cycle and you're not doing anything different.
Why are we to be equal?
If men and women is different and it's, yeah, so the thing is, because there are so many ways to sedate men, and remember, if you're an attractive woman, the thing, you don't have to accomplish as much in order to be attractive to the opposite sex.
Whereas a man, you do.
And if we live in a society now through things online, pornography, et cetera, those things will sedate men.
And so that group of men that you said, is he doing the same thing every day?
Yes, he's doing the same thing every day because that's easier for him to do.
Let me tell you something.
Grand Theft Auto VI is coming out next year.
Yes.
That motherfucker is a $2 billion with a B, $2 billion budget for that video game.
That thing is going to ruin my business and ruin my relationship.
There's so many ways as a man to sedate yourself.
But we as men have this burden of achievement that we have to achieve certain things in order to be attractive to the opposite sex.
And women, I'm not saying women don't achieve things.
It's just that your ability to achieve things is not directly correlated to how attractive you are.
Does it make sense?
I get what you're saying for sure.
Like I'm saying you can lay around.
You don't think women's attractiveness matters when it comes to men selecting.
No, he's saying that in terms of her, like net worth, value or income, it doesn't matter nearly, nearly as much as it does to men.
But there are other factors that men prioritize women because I mean like, the outputs of like between men and women are not going to be the same, so we're going to value different things in each other, right?
So like, a woman would be attracted to success, whereas a man would be attracted to, let's say whatever, like right yeah right, to be youthful and beautiful.
You don't have to actually achieve anything, you will.
A lot of the times are born with that that desirable.
So just yeah.
Consider a situation where you have a, a male and female, and they're twins, and one of them is the male and he just sits there and smokes marijuana, sits on a hacking sack and plays video games all day and becomes like he doesn't accomplish anything.
And then you have his twin sister, who's stunningly beautiful, also smokes marijuana, plays video games.
She has a dating advantage over him.
He has the burden of achievement.
He must achieve.
He must accomplish in order, he must become something in order for him to win.
And the problem is.
This is something Rollo and I talk about all the time is that the world is so filled with sedation.
I find myself going down these, these youtube holes and I have to like stop myself.
Like it's you, you could sit there and watch endless hours of footage.
You can watch anything you could.
It's not even brainwashed, it's just.
There's things that when I I have to tell my girlfriend all the time it's like it's work time.
Now, when i'm working, I am.
I just think about how hard I have to work to accomplish what I did.
We just uh, we're gonna have our first six hundred thousand dollar month this month.
Okay, when I think about all the work I had to do to do that, and when I think about how hard it must be like well, other guys are not doing this.
How the fuck are you, are they going to be able to accomplish things when there's so many distractions?
I come from a time where, if I was distracted, my dad would go get a paddle and make me undistracted very quickly.
It's a very different time, but it's the 1970s 1980s right, and so, because of the way things are now, you have these men who are very easily distracted.
They're being told that they don't need to be masculine.
They're being told that they don't need to have the ability to focus and they're also being told that their ability to accomplish things is not that important.
And that's just not true.
You're as your man.
If you're a man, you are not a special snowflake.
If you're a man and you want to go the rest of your life and never get laid, it's very easy to do.
You can just sit around.
You will never get laid.
It's not very difficult at all.
If you're a man and you don't ever want to run a seven-figure business, it's very easy to do that.
You can just sit around.
It'll never happen for you.
And but that's the difference, right?
So what you're saying before?
As men, because they have the burden of performance, they're always going to be behind the eight ball and things get more and more distracting.
As new video games and new movies and new augmented reality and new pornography comes out, it becomes very, it becomes more and more difficult, or rather, a larger and larger cohort of men get left behind.
Can I ask how you would say to fix that issue?
So that people are going to be lazy, that's I. I'm a firm believer that a man can have all like the paddle and stuff and still be lazy.
Do you think it's more so that men should just hold their expectations to and this would play into the women as well is they are to date equal.
So the twins, men date equal.
Men don't get to date equal most of the time.
No, that's what i'm saying.
Wouldn't that fix?
And women don't.
Women generally will date up.
If women started dating more equally, wouldn't that fix the issue?
Yeah, but you can't.
You can't tell.
Tell like it's evolutionary psychology.
You can't make women date equally.
Women are gonna like attraction's not a choice.
Women are going to be aware of that.
I mean, some countries attraction.
Well, yes.
Well, some countries, marriage isn't a choice, but yeah, attraction is generally not a choice.
But I actually, I'm very much like with Richard Cooper on this.
I'm just going to enjoy the decline.
I do think men in 50 years will be fucking robots.
And there'll be a small group of us who are still fucking cowboys out there going out there, knowing how to speak to women, knowing how to, like, when there's a fire, we're the ones still pulling people out of the burning, the burning house.
We're still the ones who are willing to pull you out of the car after a car wreck.
We're still those guys who are willing to do that.
But I think we're going to see fewer and fewer of those men in the world.
Instead of like using the word lazy to describe these group of men that like, you know, distracted, are distracted or like not getting laid or like can't really find like their woman, like when you have more compassion for them and not a huge lack of compassion.
I'm telling you why they exist, right?
They exist.
Prometheus still is one of the hundreds of people.
Thank you, Prometheus.
Appreciate it.
I agree, men have hobbies to keep us grounded.
No, Prometheus, thank you, man.
Men have hobbies to keep us grounded.
Oh, Prometheus had a hobby.
They kept eating his liver every day and it grew back every single day.
There you go.
Continue.
I'm sorry, I forgot my thought.
Okay, let's react to the video then.
All right, go for it.
Thank you, Prometheus.
This is hot.
Oh, is that a dude?
Oh, fuck, my bad.
Whoever fought.
Can you boost the audio?
For women to get jobs.
All the way?
Why?
Why did we do that?
I am so tired.
You want me both sisters?
I want to just put my feet up.
I am.
Oh my God.
Play the beginning again, really quick.
What's her primary play the gun?
Whoever fought for women to get jobs.
Why?
Okay, so she's upset that she has to work, I guess.
Oh, you can pause it.
That's what, yeah, that's a huge issue these days.
Yeah.
People don't want to work.
Yeah, I think, I feel like as a woman, I need to have my own hustle.
Like, don't get me wrong, personal treatment all the way, but like, I need to have my own hustle.
Do I think I deserve to work five days a week and only have two days off?
Absolutely not.
But I do believe as a female, you need your own, you know, not depend on nobody type of hustle for yourself.
It depends if you're playing a traditional female role.
If you have kids be at the crib, I think that applies different.
I'm talking about like a single woman.
Right, but if you're not, if you're not going to plan to do none of that, you could go have your career, you could have do whatever you want, and why would anything stop you?
Really?
Bender the offender donated $99.
Thank you, Bender.
I would say that men are feeling less needed than before.
Thus, laziness, no social skills.
And most importantly, they will no longer be building society as a whole in the generations to come.
Completely.
I think a lot of women don't just want to provide for themselves.
You don't want to feel like girl boss mood, though.
You can still be girl boss and want a man.
Oh, yeah.
So I grew up, like, my mom was very independent.
My dad also gave her the world and like, you know, showed what it was to be a husband.
My mom also raised me as an independent woman.
But I also don't settle for anything less than what you deserve.
So it's like I grew up being instilled that you need to have your own hustle.
Don't depend on a man for anything.
Even if he's trying to, like, oh, you don't got to work.
No, go with it.
If you're too busy being independent, though, this is personally something I've gone through.
I've been trying to spend a lot of time being independent, being on my own.
Then I do that.
And then I sit at a place.
That's alone.
Yep.
So if you're going to build to be an individual, that's what you're going to end up to be.
So if I could just comment on that last message that came through.
I completely agree.
Feminism has told women that they do not mean men and therefore men and women are completely interchangeable and not distinct from each other, which is completely false.
Men and women absolutely need each other and there are certain roles.
Duality, Joe donated $99.
Can you ask the guests what they believe a man and a woman should bring into a relationship?
And ideally, if the man or the woman should bring more to the table.
We will get into that.
We're getting quite a few that are coming in right now.
So Average Joe, thank you very much for your very generous TTS.
TTS, we will get into that once we kind of wrap up this conversational thread.
You were commenting on the previous one.
Bender the Offender.
Bender, thank you very much.
I think just men aren't appreciated.
Oh, yeah.
Yo, thank you, Ronnie.
Appreciate it.
Hey, Brian, for our show.
Ronnie again.
Priya first date.
Let's get drinks.
Skydiving sketchy, cheeky, universal studios LA then.
This TTS accent better make me sound great.
Doubt lol.
Question if our panel wants the one thing that makes you happy.
Okay, yo, Ronnie C, thank you very much for your TTS there.
Just go on a date and just film the whole thing.
And if it's terrible, then just put it up on TikTok.
Make it better.
I don't even look down here, bro.
So first off, Priya, do you, and quite a few have come through, so we will try to address all the questions.
But do you, he's changed his date proposal to from skydiving to wine and pasta.
Do you accept his date proposal?
I don't know how comfortable I feel about accepting a date proposal from somebody I've never met.
I mean, doesn't everybody doesn't everybody start off as a stranger at one point?
Yeah.
Yeah, but normally I meet people in person.
What if he's really cute?
Would it change your mind?
I guess it depends.
I mean, he's been down here.
This is his second TTS, so I mean, he's doing, he's probably doing well unless he's.
He's been in a band already.
He's spending some money.
He's just trying to talk to you.
He's paying money to talk to you.
But is he over six foot?
Ronnie.
Send more money and shoot.
How tall are you?
Thank you.
I'll contemplate it.
By the way, just on the height thing, did we go on the median income?
Everybody answered.
Okay, cool, cool.
They got it way more right than any other audience.
Oh, nice.
That's a good panel.
It's a good panel.
All right, cool.
Okay, so there's quite a few that came in.
Priya, you were addressing the Bendy the Offender with the feminism thing.
Go ahead.
Yeah, well, and with women seeking the less than top percent 1% of men, the majority of men feel undervalued, first of all.
And therefore, I think they don't feel like they need to work to become better and to become like masculine men that can provide for their families.
And yeah.
Men don't feel appreciated.
No, they don't feel appreciated.
And I mean, it's hard to not blame, or it's hard to blame the victim, but you know, men do have to become accountable at some point and decide that they want to strive to be that 1% of men.
So even if you become accountable and we can all put our standards a bit lower for men, there's still the technology now that exists that gives women the ability to just have a roster of men from all over the world that hasn't been there before.
Yeah, so women need to take accountability themselves as well.
I don't think that's a sustainable way to live or a good way to live.
Wait.
Okay, but one question for you.
So you said that men should strive to become that 1%.
Not necessarily strive to become the 1%, but I think that everybody should strive to continuously become better.
But as he said earlier, there are different standards that women put onto men, so it's harder to become that 1% because not only do you have to be good-looking.
Absolutely.
I'm not saying that everyone's not.
I don't think it's that hard.
I really don't.
I think no one's fucking trying.
No one.
You know what I mean?
Kids, when I meet guys that are under the age of 25, they do nothing.
They do nothing.
There is a small, let's say the top 16% of men.
It has never been easier to get into that top 16% of men.
Dude, take a fucking class on copywriting, on like learn how to build a sales funnel.
Seriously, learn affiliate marketing.
There's so many ways to make 400.
But it's one of the things.
And then go to the gym six days a week.
There's so many things.
Bro, there are books you can read.
It is so accessible for men to become that top one.
But when are we going to talk about men's mental health and maybe their lack of ability to really get to that spot?
Because I don't feel like I don't really see men talking about that, and I don't really see women talking about that either.
Because we have to perform.
It's like our mental health when we get there.
But that's the part that we need to break down, right?
Because if, like, if we're talking, I'm considering a walk instead of talking to talk.
Well, I'm considering what's happening now in mainstream social media and like the United States and Western societies.
There's a movement for men that's happening right now.
Sure.
It's evolving.
I agree that mental health with men has been has always been quite neglected, but I think that there's a mental health epidemic going on that is completely obscure and blown out of proportion.
There is this idea now in society that if you are not continuously happy all the time, that there's something wrong with you and there's something wrong with your lifestyle.
Our ancestors understood that life was trying and difficult and complex and the road to happiness was long and trying.
And now we think that we can just walk down the street and be this happy butterfly all the time.
And if we're not, we're doing something incredible.
Why do you think that is?
I think social media, I think feminism has told everybody this because if you are not making your own way as a woman and then men are neglecting their duties because they're told that they are not going to ever be enough, I think that there's like a multitude of reasons for this.
Which perpetuates the chasm between men and women understanding each other, being able to like really being able to understanding it in what way?
For example, like how much effort do you think women, like the average woman, hold on, just hold that thought.
Oh, it's hold on, I have to re-trigger it because there's a curse word, I guess.
Or no, I think it give it one sec.
it'll re-trigger I don't I don't necessarily know that men and women have to understand each other in order to get along and And here's the thing: if you are a woman and you have short-term values, you were saying women have to do something or men have to do.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
That's the point.
Okay, here we go.
Oh, is it not going to?
Okay.
Yeah, it's probably.
Okay.
They are disgusting predators and online.
That needs to be nationwide banned.
I grew up in this digital age.
I know the majority of men are watching highly advanced and addictive prawns starting at the age of 12 and are being groomed by social media.
By the way, yeah, if you, I think it probably he's saying prawn.
OF and porn.
Prawn stars.
The porn industry also has a lot to do with this and the decline of masculine men and stuff.
You can watch prawn and still have a job.
And traditional women.
And masculine man.
That's just an addictive personality.
Just like you can get addicted to drugs.
That industry specifically breeds addiction, first of all.
Second of all, there are a lot of things that corn does to your mental health, to your hormones.
Sticky swimming.
Wow, okay, that's coming in.
Speaking of distractions, shout out to Tria.
Brian, tell her about the time I saved you from that bear/slash tiger/slash monkey hybrid.
Sure.
Ron means a chunk.
Let's grab a drink next time I'm in NorCal.
Wow, you now have.
I love to hear about your beautiful horses.
You now have two suitors tonight.
Tell me about.
Do you guys remember before when you guys are like, well, women have to change?
No, the fuck they don't.
No, they don't.
I think they should.
But don't point this out to me and tell me women have to change because in the short term, what will happen is they can all.
We had a girl on the show the other day.
She's girls did porn, had two kids with a dude, still films with other guys, comes home to her husband who like allows this whole thing to happen.
No, you can find a dude.
You just probably aren't going to like him very much.
There's so many what are called not superfluous.
What's the word?
Surplus men.
That's what Dr. Richard Reeves calls them.
There's so many surplus men out there because they aren't taking the time to garner the abundance in their life.
And once they have that abundance, then they can set the boundaries that they want.
And when they have those boundaries, then they will, if someone cheated on them, they would say, okay, you cheated, whatever.
I'm going to move on to someone else.
I'm not going to go back to this because I understand what my boundaries are, right?
They're not going to take a job that's going to abuse them.
They're not going to be with a woman who doesn't treat them the way that they want to be treated.
But that's what a high-status man would do.
A low-status man is not going to do that.
A low-status man is going to chase.
He's going to do everything he can.
He doesn't have the ability to cheat.
Priya, so you have Ronnie C and Sticky Side Down now.
So there's like a, I think there's going to be a bidding war when it comes to your two suitors.
Carlo Nalo.
So he wanted me to tell you about that time that I saved him.
Oh, he's, excuse me, he saved me from various wild animals.
So yes, Sticky Side Down did there's various stories.
He saved me from a bear, a tiger, and a monkey.
No, it's a hybrid.
At the same time, it was a hybrid.
Somehow.
It's a chimera.
Ooh, chimera, good word.
It was in Pasadena's for some reason.
I don't know what was going on.
Some weird shit's going on in Paddown.
They can all have a baby.
How do you say that?
No, Sticky Side Down.
Thank you very much.
Okay, so I'm trying to recall where we were.
I just want to make sure we address all of these chats that came through.
So the previous one was from Mr. Average Joe, and he says, Can you ask the guests what they believe a man and a woman should bring into a relationship?
And ideally, if the man or the woman should bring more to the table, define bringing more to the table.
Believe a man and a woman should bring into a relationship.
We can do one of those.
Or the woman should.
Okay, so what do you think a man brings to the table?
What do you think a woman brings to the table?
Should bring to the table, I should say.
I mean, I feel like it should, in the basis of things, it should be like the same thing, like communication, loyalty, genuine love.
You know, those should be both between both people.
And then like supportive partners, you know, like it should just be both in the same with the basis of it, which is, I'm not sure if they're asking for like the basis or anything, but it should just be both ways.
For the sake of time, I think I need to limit the question a little bit because I'm going to average Joe if you don't, if you don't object.
What do you bring to the table?
Go ahead.
I like to cook and I like to be somebody to be at the house.
I'd be very traditional in that way.
Okay.
And we'll come back to you, then we'll continue going around.
What do you bring to the table?
Oh, I think I'm not looking for a relationship right now.
I'm working on myself.
And so I can be able to be like, this is what I bring to the table.
I'm still doing like my healing and inner work to know what that is exactly.
What I bring to, well, in a relationship, besides, you know, respect, communication, whatever, just your personality, right?
Everyone's like different.
I think I like my personality and I'm fun and that's going to click with someone.
That's what I bring to the table.
That's different from in a relationship.
Obviously, you're gonna meet your basic needs, but I'm a really good communicator, so like once our problems will get solved, so there will be no problems and we will be okay.
Didn't you just beat the shit out of your lap?
Yes, don't start.
There's no problem anymore.
I got no problems.
And I solved the problem, right?
What is that?
I'm a problem.
It's not domestic abuse because they broke up.
That's all I'm saying.
It's not domestic abuse.
They broke up.
That wasn't his man.
That wasn't her man anymore.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all I'm saying.
It was not domestic.
It's abuse.
It's just not domestic because they're not together anymore.
Thank you.
Problem solves.
You know?
Hey.
So I think the main thing is support.
Like, I'm very encouraging.
And I just always try to support the man that I'm with.
Support?
Okay.
What about you?
Absolute equality.
You bring absolute equality.
We'll touch on that later.
Okay, what about you?
So the question is, like, what do I bring to the table?
To a man?
So, like, I'm sorry.
Yes.
One eternity later.
Go ahead.
Emotional intelligence, nurturing, like care.
I'm going towards my PhD in psych, so that could be helpful in the situation.
My ability to.
PhD is what you would bring to the table in a relationship for your business.
Given that it's going to be in psychology, I feel like I have the capacity for conflict resolution and to back down when I know that I'm wrong or to admit fault and like what you said, like communication and the difference of.
So wait, do you want to be a therapist?
Yeah, I am going to be.
Okay.
Isn't it the case that a lot of therapists have their own pretty severe issues themselves?
Yeah.
And they usually are not particularly, at least I don't know.
I've heard that therapists are not particularly great.
I wanted to be a therapist and I didn't because I was like, I don't feel like I should be.
Also, children raised by therapists, I've heard is raised by two therapists.
Yikes.
Imagine the problems there.
They're fucked.
I'm kidding.
That's totally not something I think.
That's actually true.
Okay, so your PhD and you would be a good, you would know how to minimize.
I was saying I'm emotionally intelligent.
I'm a good conflict resolver.
I have the ability to back down.
I'm not that person.
I don't know.
You two almost got into a fight earlier.
Well, she's not someone I'm dating, so that's very different.
She's not a man that I'm respecting, so it's very different.
Have you in your PhD studies ever gone over?
I haven't.
I haven't.
I'm getting a psych, and I'm going to be applying for this ID program soon.
So I'm in the interim, I'm doing social media.
Okay.
Kelly, what do you bring to the table?
I'm very caring and nurturing.
I'm going to be a good mother to whoever my husband will be.
I'm emotionally available.
I'm open to listening to his problems and helping him solve them.
And yeah, I'm just overall caring.
Just want to be, you know.
Okay.
You just got to be sweet and peaceful.
Mike, what do you bring to the table?
So it's interesting because we were talking about this before about what the boundaries were for a relationship.
And I have these very clearly defined when I get into one.
For me, the thing that you're going to get is, you know, obviously I am there to solve problems as a man.
A lot of times I get into a situation, especially with Kylie, where she wants to talk about the feelings, and I'm like, we have to solve the problem now.
So provisioning, providing, protecting, that's what I do as a man, and she has no question about that or ever worried about that at all.
The other thing is that I'm going to bring to a relationship is that I need to, I'm always very open with people asking questions, but this is a rule for two people in a relationship.
And I generally find that women break this rule more than men.
You can ask me how I feel.
You cannot fucking tell me how I feel.
That is a huge issue that I see where women are like, you don't like me because you looked at this.
No, no, no, stop.
You can ask me how I feel.
You cannot fucking tell me how I feel.
If you do that, you understand the boundaries of the relationship, right?
And you're both pulling in the same direction.
That's what I need.
What I need from a partner, I need peace.
I need her to pull in the same direction.
And I need her to understand what the boundaries are.
For me, I'm in a polygynous relationship, meaning the two of us see women together.
So, in that regard, as long as we both understand the rules, then that's the most important thing that happens there.
But as far as what I bring to the table, it's pretty much everything.
You said I am the table.
No, no, I'm not saying I am the table, but like there is nothing that she ever has to worry about, literally has to worry about because she's my girlfriend.
And I tell her all the time, she's like, I want to go to this thing and I'm worried about getting in.
I'm like, no, you're my girlfriend.
You can get in anywhere you want.
There's no issue.
You're in Las Vegas.
There's nothing you can't get to or get with.
I'm going to answer the previous question, if you don't mind.
What a man should bring to the relationship is being a protector, a leader, and a provider.
The woman should be a caregiver, comfort, and peace.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, the other thing is, do you allow him to lead in certain situations where he needs to lead?
Yes.
Again, are you holding his hand while you're walking through a venue, asking, where are we going?
Where are we going?
Or do you trust him and know he knows where we're going?
Or at the very minimum, if he doesn't, I'm not going to embarrass him in front of other people.
I'm going to let him lead.
That's like the point of having a boyfriend.
That's like the best part: it's like going anywhere and not having to worry about what you're doing.
Not having to literally not even have to worry about where I'm walking because he's going to keep me in chat.
Like my girlfriend and I last night were on stage with the chain smokers, and it was like one of these situations where she didn't have to ask any questions because she knew we were going to walk in.
There's going to be no questions asked whatsoever.
We're going to be on stage.
We're four feet away from them and she doesn't have to ask.
She knows I have everything taken care of.
That's why she's my girlfriend.
That's why we're together.
Sweet.
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Okay, we have a chat here from that guy, Pyro.
I make 80K a year drain cleaning.
By the way, women flush feminine products down the drain and cost companies and communities millions a year.
Stop flushing your tampons, please.
Men do the jobs that make women comfortable, yet they don't appreciate the men doing those.
Don't flush your tampons.
That's what we take from it.
There we go.
I was not aware of that.
Now I'm not sure.
I didn't know that when I was younger.
Thank you.
And I did that when I was 80, like 80 tampons.
Oh, I guess you're right, right?
Because they soak up moisture.
Okay, that makes sense.
I understand this.
Got it.
Yeah, don't do that.
Actually, you know, it's funny.
Our landlords at this building recently people have been flushing their wet wipes and tampons and shit.
And it clogged up.
There was a major in this building, an explosion from, yeah, like some sort of explosion from the water.
I don't know exactly what it's called, but yeah, so like the water was off.
So ladies, you gotta be, you know, just throw it in the trash.
Be considerate.
Throw that shit in the trash, son.
Okay, thank you, Pyro.
Appreciate it.
We had Ronnie C. Here.
He had a question for the panel.
He was also asking you for first aid, Priya.
Question for the panel.
What's one thing that makes you happy?
Okay.
Dancing.
What's the one thing that makes you happy?
What's the one thing?
Okay, we'll go.
Sure.
Well, we'll ask that.
Real dancing and comedy.
Creating.
Traveling.
Music.
Creating.
Success.
Playing the piano.
Food.
Raising money for charity.
My family and personal relationships.
Okay, cool.
Good times.
Thank you, Ronnie C. Appreciate it.
We had the Josh one here.
Yeah.
Did we address it?
Something about the prawn?
Oh, he wants a nationwide ban.
Here, show of hands from Josh here for the very generous TTS.
Agree or disagree, should there be a nationwide ban?
So, yes, raise your hand if you think porn should be banned.
We're talking about OnlyFans, we're talking about porn.
All these can be categorized as social jobs, man.
I just don't know how that would work.
I'm not sure.
It's a nice idea.
Logistics, but like, you know, does anybody here create adult content?
I used to.
You do?
Anybody else?
Oh, okay.
Just you?
You're the only one here who does OF?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I don't do like full-on, but it should be considered.
Normally, our panels are a little more stacked with.
It should not be so accessible to children.
Of course.
Yeah, sorry.
Anyone that adult can do with their time, what's healthier, not like it.
It's very accessible to children, any of them.
There's also a lot of hundreds of thousands of people are sex trafficked a year through that specific industry as well.
It's not a safe industry, regardless.
I know there's an argument for OnlyFans, but OnlyFans is less regulated than porn.
We're not allowed to say that word, are we?
Porn hub.
Okay.
Yep.
Well, then wouldn't like stricter rules around prawn be better than just full wide ban because then you're going to have people who argue I think it's a net bad for society.
I think it's a net wrong for society.
I do not think that's a problem.
You want regulations and not freedom, correct?
Well, you're the one that wanted a communist society.
I don't necessarily...
I'm asking you the question because you're the one saying you want to ban porn.
Sure.
Prawn, sorry.
Yeah, but there are scientific studies.
There are scientific studies that show that it destroys relationships.
And you're in that science.
It does a lot of damage to mental health.
It has a negative impact on your hormones.
No, I can fully agree with your opinions of why you'd want to, but then you're taking away people's freedom.
Yeah, I was saying it's censorship.
You can't just ban.
We do have censorship.
It's not taking away your population.
It's just private censorship.
Yeah, you're making your team not viewable for certain people, so you're taking away people's freedom to view something.
Yeah, I don't think it's plausible in the U.S. that that would be a good idea.
Not at all.
I'm not making the argument how it would be regulated.
I'm saying that in an ideal world, I don't think that it should exist.
I think it's a net bad for society.
I'm not saying that it's going to be banned or how to ban it.
Is social media a net negative for society?
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
So only because we don't understand the total ramifications of it and we're experiencing it in real time.
So ban social media and ban porn.
Or prawns, sorry.
Y'all should come over to my communist nation.
I'll do all that for y'all.
The thing I don't get about communism is what is the incentive, like if someone just wants to, let's say you don't want to work.
I'm not super well versed in this.
If you don't want to work, are you compelled to work in a communist society?
Yeah, so communism or nationalism both want people to work, so there's an incentive whether through communism.
Do you get wages in communism?
It depends.
There's different versions of that.
Like what would be the incentive of spending all that time and hard work to become a doctor versus just like.
A caste system.
This is why I don't fully agree with pure communism because humans are flawed.
They're going to want more and want to succeed.
I'm privy to that.
I want to succeed and become more.
So it's just kind of more regulation in reality.
But what's the incentive for someone to go and become a doctor if there's no financial reward?
Oh, well, there'd be like houses, better houses.
You'd be in a part of society.
If you were a doctor.
Don't you think you'd also find more altruistic doctors rather than doctors that are looking for a wage?
Yeah, I don't think you need altruistic doctors.
I think you need more doctors.
You couldn't be a better doctor.
I think you need more better doctors.
But as somebody who is disabled and has been in the hospital since I was a kid, I've dealt with over 140 different doctors, including specialists and general practitioners.
And the people that change my life the most are the people that actually actively want to be there, which I think is what you're referring to, right?
Because if you give them the choice and then you have a livable wage, that they'll actively choose to do that because they want to do that.
They want to be present.
But that is also achievable under capitalism as well.
That's my point.
By your testimony, they still exist under capitalism.
I mean, the reality of the situation is we need more people who are skilled to do these jobs, and we incentivize those people to do it with money.
The idea of using altruism to get people to be a doctor would be one to three percent of doctors.
The rest of us still need to have bones set and heart transplants, and we can't worry.
And a lot of the guys who do those jobs are fucking horrible, horrible people who happen to be really great heart surgeons.
And so it doesn't make any difference if they're altruistic or not.
We need the guy who builds the building that you live in.
It doesn't make any difference if this guy's a Christian or a Muslim, a piece of shit, or beats his wife.
If he's a productive member of society, those are the houses we live in.
Like in the end, for us, for us as men, we have the burden of performance all the time.
And so, like, well, I understand what you're saying.
Would it be great if all doctors were altruistic?
I don't think it solves a problem.
That's too idealistic.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm thinking about.
I mean, whatever.
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
Let's pull up the video.
Let's do the video.
Let's do it.
Oh, you know, it's not a good idea.
All right.
So, just some there's we're reacting to a TikTok video.
However, the girl took the TikTok video down.
It went viral.
So, Brett reacted to it.
So, we're going to watch a video from Brett where she plays the thing.
And then, Nick, can I have you swap the camera angle?
So, we talked about that.
No, Down, down, hide, yeah, that one, and then hide the other one.
Yeah, cool.
Uh, you can play it.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
Boost the audio, please.
It's not boosted.
No, on the YouTube player?
On the YouTube player, yeah?
Boost it all the way.
Nope.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Yeah, I'm actually starting to get so scared.
Like, it's not even funny anymore.
How am I 23 and I still have not had my first kiss?
Like, it gets so horrifying.
When I was like 22, 21, I was like, haha, it's kind of cute, kind of quirky.
Like, not really, but kind of.
Like, I could play it off.
Now it's getting scary.
Like, I don't see it changing anytime soon.
And, like, I just keep getting older.
Now it's going to be so weird because I'm going to be so old and I'm going to have to tell somebody, like, yeah, I've never done this before.
Like, I'm so humiliated.
I didn't even have a first kiss in like middle school when everybody has one.
And it's like the awkward, weird relationship where you're dating them for like a day.
I never even know.
Ryan Castillo donated $100.
Shout out the legendary Michael Sartain.
Thank you in the house.
Question for all the ladies.
How important is astrology in perspective relationships?
Thank you, Ryan.
Appreciate it.
No, I can do this real quick.
Hey, ladies, you guys know, have you ever, you know, said, hey, I'm a Gemini, and the guy's an Aries, and you kind of have like a vibe about him.
Has that ever happened to you?
You guys ever had that happen?
No.
No, anybody?
No?
Good, because all that shit is fake.
All of it is fucking fake.
All of it.
And you guys, I want to be taken seriously in the workplace, but you still believe in Gemini.
You ever meet a guy who has like a good vibe, a good energy?
You guys ever had that happen before?
All of that is fake.
None of that shit is real.
None of it is real.
Humans do not emit energy.
They do not.
Humans emit facial expressions.
Scientifically, they emit energy.
Humans do not.
We can go down this road all day if you want.
Humans do not emit energy.
Humans have facial expressions.
If you want to say that.
How do you define energy?
Energy is a form of energy.
I can feel your energy from right here.
That's not a word.
You are reacting to my psychology.
You are not feeling that.
No, I'm not going to use your vibes, do you?
And your vibes.
Vibes aren't real.
None of that is real.
None of it is real.
What happens is you react to someone's psychology and then you backwards rationalize and say he had a vibe or good energy.
That none of that shit is real.
It is all a function of evolutionary psychology and that is all what it is.
I'm calling Cap.
Let's produce the evidence.
Okay, so you've never walked into a room and was like, I don't really like the vibes.
And you're like, yo, you know what it is?
That's dumb.
Let me ask you something.
You have ancestors, right?
I hope so.
Right, okay.
So your ancestors, they probably lived in a pre-modern society where they were living out as hunter-gatherers, right?
You do believe in natural selection.
Humans did come from, you know, deserts and forests and didn't live in society before like 11,700 years ago, correct?
Okay, do you think that those humans, it probably would have been beneficial to them to be like, something's wrong here.
They don't have the scientific method.
They have no ability to detect anything.
They don't have night vision goggles.
They don't have firearms.
Animal instinct.
It's instinct that they had that was developed through natural selection.
And the ones that were more cautious lived long and passed on that trait to their ancestors.
It is a function of evolution.
It is not a function.
There is no vibe.
There is no energy.
Energy is a metaphor.
It's all vibes.
Humans do have energy.
What energy do they meant?
Explain.
Explain.
Like energy isn't everything.
No, no, no.
You're talking about neurochemical responses.
But there's no connection between you and me.
You are responding to the light that is reflecting off of these lights here, and you are responding via your psychology.
There is no energy transfer between human beings.
None.
Unless you're a spiritual.
Do you believe in spirits?
Do you believe in like that's a completely different thing?
That's energy, though.
But no, no.
Again, the spirit thing is something you can believe in with faith, but not with evidence.
And as far as evidence is concerned, there is no energy transfer between humans, period.
I don't care what Joe Dispenza told you.
None of that shit is true.
None of it.
If you guys want to debate me on this, we can, but the science will bury you.
There is no energy.
There are no vibes.
None of this shit is real.
Now, if you want to say it like a metaphor, sure, you can say he had bad energy.
That's a metaphor.
That's fine to say it as a metaphor.
Energy is the capability to do work.
The things that you get between me do not grant you or take decreased energy.
Thank you, Ronnie.
Appreciate it.
Ronnie here in 5 feet 11 inches.
I'm a profitable slash entrepreneur.
I'll probably pro-Equestrian.
Tell me on the date, Farma, distracting TTSI, would like to apologize to absolutely nobody.
God bless you.
P.S. Star Science.
I like Ronnie.
I should take him up on this.
You decided that you have a date coming up.
So wait, wait, wait.
Can we get back to this energy thing?
One sec, one sec, one sec.
Hold on.
I'd like to take this chance to apologize.
To absolutely nobody.
Okay, so hold on.
Just a couple things here.
So we had, let's see.
Okay, we had that come in.
Ronnie C., thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
What we should have done before Mike Sartain was cooking there.
We should have asked the girls if you believe in astrology, because now you guys may have just been backed the fuck off or whatever the term is.
Back the fuck down.
show of hands who here believes in astrology and jupiter rising whatever the fucking not jupiter i think the girls are gonna be they're gonna be very i don't think it should like be determined in your relationship Like, oh, I can't believe you're an Aries.
But I do think, like, yeah, the day you were born, the time you were born, there was an energy.
Such a great point.
So what they should do is they should run a study.
And what they should do, and they have run a study, in it convenient, they took thousands of couples in the United Kingdom and they put them on speed dates.
And one of the things they did is they tried to relate whether or not the date made it to a second date based on their astrological signs.
Bender the offender donated $99.
Yo, thank you, Bender.
Energy definition.
The strength and vitality required for sustained physical or mental activity.
Cool.
You don't transfer that between humans.
All right, going back to what they said.
So now what happened is they went and they looked at the correlation between whether or not these people worked out.
And what you should see is Sagittarius and Gemini don't work and Libra and whatever the fuck do work.
And the correlation was zero.
Absolutely, positively zero.
There was no correlation between whether or not your relationship worked and whether or not there was a level of attraction and what your astrological sign was.
That's what I said.
Zero.
Astrology used to be about the universal language of mapping.
That's how we got around.
That's how we knew time, dates, all of that.
But now it's about dating for some reason.
I don't think it's also valid because like the calendar, they're saying, oh, you're born this day, you were this, but they're saying that doesn't even line up because, you know, July and August was added to the calendar.
You know, basically you're not.
Getting up to the 15, the 15th set, the 1500s of the Julian California became the Gregorian column.
So it's like, how are you saying this?
Let's move on.
Okay, yeah.
It's bullshit.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
All right.
Priya, while you were gone.
Ronnie donated $99.
Ronnie here in 5 feet 11 inches.
Immaprof baller slash entrepreneur.
Don't simp, but prey you his quality.
Priya you a pro-equestrian.
Tell me on the date, Farmai distracting TTSI would like to apologize to absolutely nobody.
God bless all.
P.S. star signs don't matter lol.
There you have it.
Okay, so he's 5'11.
Ronnie, is Ronnie sounding a little more appealing or what's the situation?
And a prophylauder.
Whatever.
He was never unappealing.
I don't know.
He's very persistent.
Fly him in.
Just to show you.
I'll contemplate it.
Make content.
That's all that matters.
As long as you film it.
Going back to the video that we were reacting to, basically I'll just recap it.
23-year-old woman claims to have never even had a first kiss.
I think she also claimed that she's never even been on a first date to.
So thoughts on that?
I need a backstory.
Is she the problem?
Well, I imagine what she was saying before is like they're going to say, hey, it's a good thing that you made it to 23.
So like, ladies, one more time.
Like, the issue is, if she made it to 23 and never had sex with anyone, it doesn't like count against her.
It just doesn't.
If anything, I think it's a positive.
There's a 37-culture study by Dr. David Buss, and they go over how each of these 37 different cultures view virginity.
And the one that viewed virginity the most strongest was men in China at the time, although those restrictions have loosened up.
And the ones who cared about the least were the men in Norway.
In fact, women in Norway, if they saw a man who was a virgin past a certain age, they thought it was extremely strange.
So virginity was looked at very different in different countries.
The idea that this woman is 23 and has never been with a dude, in her mind, she's like, I don't have experience, so I'm a weirdo.
And that's not how it works.
For men, we need experience to be better with women.
For women, you do not need experience with men to be more attractive to men.
I'll say it one more time.
You do not need more experience with men to be attractive.
Lay on your heart, but you need more experience to keep a man.
You need to understand a man.
What do you hide right now?
At this grown age, I'm not teaching you how to buck.
I'll have to say something.
I have a friend, personal friend, who also didn't have a first kiss until she was about 24.
Chef Rob donated $100.
Hey, all, good talk.
Mike, thank you for your service.
Fellow USA FRIA.
There you go, Cross into the blue.
Question for the group.
Back to the prom discussion.
What if free prom was banned?
You'd have to pay and be taxed.
Like tobacco/slash alcohol.
Brian, keep up the great show.
But if that's a compromise, then great.
That's OnlyFans.
Kids on the account better.
That's OnlyFans.
I don't know what's better.
Because then it's consensual?
It's like paywalled 100% versus...
I'm not necessarily saying anything against the fact that there's two consenting adults interacting in a sexual manner.
That's up to them.
They have the right to do that.
I'm saying that I think that it's a net bad for the reason that people are creating parasocial relationships with somebody that does not exist.
And that is also harming their dating life.
It's harming their mental health, their ability to interact with individuals, especially in a romantic sense.
And it affects their hormones.
You can argue that with celebrities, too.
People make social media.
Yeah, there's people who are.
I'm not saying that there isn't an argument for that.
There absolutely is an argument.
We can ban everything, right?
Parasocial relationships are something we're going to have to evolve to.
There's studies behind parasocial relationships that it can lead to people becoming more social.
While, yes, I agree that unhealthy parasocial relationships exist, it can help people become more social.
There's like entire people.
Yeah, I think what you're talking about are people that deal with some sort of disorder, maybe on the autistic spectrum, and they get married to someone on World of Warcraft or something like that.
I think you're dealing with outside, like two standard deviations outside the norm with something like that.
And I want to say I completely agree that there definitely is unhealthy versions of prawn.
I do not like prawn hub at all.
I think that there's a lot of problems behind that.
But I'm completely on board with stuff like OnlyFans and a prawn that requires more art like Hentai and stuff.
Because it's not affecting anybody personally, like S trafficking and stuff.
And it's not as easily accessible to children to just open up their phones and see the most vile, disgusting things to their brain.
Yeah, so I mean, for the OnlyFans thing, yeah, I understand the argument in terms of creators being their own managers and being able to benefit in that sense and be their own boss in a way.
I can understand the argument for that in the sense of OnlyFans compared to other options.
But like I said earlier, there's less censorship around OnlyFans because it is not a chronography website.
It should be.
At this point, it should be.
It was not created for that purpose, but there's no regulation around it.
Therefore, people can post whatever they want, basically.
But because there are no regulations, there's no proper age verification.
There are lots of stories.
And I think there's a lot of issues.
There are a lot.
OnlyFans.
There is improper age verification on OnlyFans?
Yes.
You're not required to submit your ID.
I'm not saying you can fake an idea.
I was going to say, there have been many stories.
But the average OnlyFans user is like 29 years old anyways.
But.
But I do think that the popularity of OnlyFans, like I'm for OnlyFans, but I'm also, it does need to be regulated because joining OnlyFans very early on, like at age 18, is very unhealthy for a woman.
Well, there are many people that have joined under OnlyFans.
It does come out of somebody else's ID.
There's a lot like you to watch it when you're young rather than to be a part of it when you're younger.
People are going to have urges that like.
But what's the solution?
You can't just ban it altogether, right?
So you do the best that you can.
And if there are people that get by through that, then there are people that get by through that.
That's the nature of society and human flaw.
Like, I don't understand.
Do you guys see Utah now?
Like, you have to, I think you have to upload, like, if you want any plus 18 site, you have to upload your ID and like your full name.
That's the same thing for like OnlyFans.
We're talking about two different things.
She's talking about a creator.
You're talking about using.
She's saying as a creator for you.
No, no, no.
I'm saying like in Utah, if you're a rat in Yoshmo and you go on cornhub.com before you can enter, you need to give your information.
You need to give your information.
I think that's a good idea.
Shout out to Utah.
I find it's a little intrusive.
Why?
Everyone.
That's a great idea.
Want to engage in plus 18 websites, then you should have to verify if you want to buy alcohol or dietary.
Josh donated $299.
Thanks, man.
America, look yourselves in the mirror and ask yourself: would I give up my right to view pornography to destroy the extreme negatives from the industry and restore the dating marketplace for all ages and the traditional family?
Politics have blinded you.
Honestly, though, thank you, Josh, for your TTS.
Honestly, like, prawn ain't the best, but I think social media and dating apps have had a much more agreed or negative impact than because prawns been around since fucking a long time.
Like, there's Playboy, there's magazines and shit.
Obviously, now it's much more accessible.
However, I think the rapid transformation of the dating marketplace, I think, is more due to social media and dating apps.
I agree with that because sex work has been around since the beginning of time.
So just because it's been around from the beginning of time doesn't make it an extraordinary thing.
So then you go to the other side.
Would you say the same about being traditional, right?
Because if you're traditional and you want to withhold that, and you would agree that keeping that from like that logic doesn't apply to everything in life.
If that logic applied to everything, then everything would be in that bad.
That's not true.
I would 100% ban porn 100% because I started having a porn addiction at the age of seven years old.
And I'm looking back.
But not everybody's going to have that.
Not everybody's going to, but I'm going to tell you right now how that affected my life, my relationships.
I wanted to recreate them scenes instead of being a part of a normal relationship.
I definitely know.
Like that, none of the dating apps, social media wanted to make me want to do that.
Here's the thing.
So what porn has done, Dr. Andrew Hubberman does a really great, he has some very great speeches on this.
You guys can look it up.
He went on Joe Rogan and had a very eloquent description.
He talks about it sets your dopamine levels super high and then they're sort of set there and you can't reset them.
So meaning like everything has to compare to the threesome porn experience that you had on porn up, whatever, right?
Okay.
Now, the thing is, where now we have men looking at unrealistic things, women at the same time are now able to message their favorite rapper and have one-off sexual experiences with celebrities and really good-looking men that they find that they would not have had access to before social media.
So as men have this unrealistic expectation from what they see from adult performers, women now also have an unrealistic expectation because they can have sex with a high-status man but cannot keep one.
And now, where it gets even worse is now they start comparing every sexual experience or every relationship they had to that one time they fucked Blake Griffin.
That's that becomes this situation.
Just because Blake Griffin, is that who is that?
He was a country singer.
Yeah, Blake Griffin.
Blake Griffin with the power board, but he was the powerful with the Clippers and he was dating and he was with Kylie Jenner.
Just because someone has high status though doesn't necessarily mean they're good in bed.
No, no, it doesn't matter.
My point is, my point is, she had access.
Like, again, when you think about your baseball player, one day you hit four home runs, you start comparing your rest of the career to that one great day that you had.
It's the same situation, or you hit three ace pairs in a row and you just take everybody's money playing poker.
You keep comparing yourself to that one great thing that you did.
In this situation, every woman who had a one-night stand with Drake or someone like that, she's kind of in her mind, ruined for a normal dude in a normal relationship from that point forward.
And I hear this all the time, all the time, especially from women who live in Los Angeles.
They're like, I dated so-and-so.
And I'm like, no, you didn't.
I know him and his wife.
He fucked you for sure, maybe twice.
You never dated him.
If I look up pictures of you and him on a red carpet somewhere, there are none.
There's pictures of him and his wife.
You never dated him.
And the fact that she even has the mental, the thought, the imagination that she dated him.
Now think about that.
In her mind, now that's what she compares every relationship to.
So she ends up dating a fucking shortstop for the Dodgers or ends up sleeping with him like two or three times.
In her mind, she dated him.
And now every single person she goes up, she dates from that point forward, has to make the $20 million a year guaranteed contract, has to be this tall.
And in her mind, that's who she wants.
And when things are dissatisfying in the relationship and the shortstop texts her in the middle of the night, she is just far more likely to go back to him.
Does everybody understand?
That is how social media has fucked up dating.
That's how it is.
You make a good point because it's not just about looking and watching.
It's about comparing.
I think people are unable to separate that part of their brain that contrasts whether it's social media porn or something.
Sure, yeah, because your brain is not evolved.
The same thing can happen with like if you watch a TV show long enough.
The same thing happens with my podcast.
People come up to me all the time.
I'm sure it happens to Brian all the time.
People come up to us and start telling us their life story like we know them, but we don't know them.
They watch us for hours every week.
They know our whole story, but then they're talking to us like we don't know them because their brain is not evolved to witness some other human every day, six days a week, and then not think that they actually don't know them.
Because your brain cannot tell the difference between the two-dimensional objects on the screen and then the other tribe members that you lived with 50,000 years ago, your ancestors lived with.
You're not evolved to know the difference.
So of course, yeah, I agree with that.
So for women, it's like there is an unrealistic belief that because I slept with this country singer, this famous country singer, that that is what I deserve every time.
And for men, because I witnessed this sexual act on this adult website, that this is what sex is supposed to be for me.
Now we have both genders seeing unrealistic expectations, which and this is what's ruining dating.
Wait, I have a question.
I know you don't know the fact, but what percentage of porn watchers do you think have a healthy relationship with it?
Probably really.
I think majority?
No, I know.
Minority, but a large minority.
To be honest with you, here's what I think.
It depends on how much they watch.
And there's so many people that watch adult content that I'm sure some of them do have healthy relationships.
But in general, like there's a lot of people who don't watch adult content, who don't have healthy relationships.
We have a 53% divorce rate in this country, and 78% of divorces are initiated by women.
So I don't think anyone's, no one's winning right now, okay?
The only people who are winning are like puritanical Christians who get married as virgins.
Like they're the only people.
Shout out to Russian.
I know he's going to clip this.
Like they're the only people who are actually doing well.
The rest of us are just slightly better than chance.
That's what's happening.
All right, we have a chat here from Doc.
Hey, thank you, man.
In Cuba, doctors are sent to other countries as slave labor and the communist caste or regime gets the money from the likes of Venezuela and Mexico.
The people in Cuba have no medical care.
Only the government elite and medical tourists get proper care.
Hey, Doc, thank you, man.
it um yeah i'm not super familiar with the oh i have an anecdote for this um I know a guy, my mom's ex-boyfriend, he's like 50.
He went to Cuba all the time.
He's Canadian, so he can go.
He met a woman there, Cuban woman.
She's a doctor from Cuba.
And you can imagine where this is going.
They got married.
She came over to Canada.
One day he woke up and there was a letter on his bed saying, thank you so much, you know, for bringing me over to Canada, but I'm leaving you.
That's nice.
Well, then what he should have done is file for divorce and then all of a sudden she doesn't have a citizenship anymore.
Then all of a sudden, hey, thanks so much for leaving me.
Now you're a refugee.
How about that?
But even doctors in Cuba, you know, we were talking about like doctors and communists and stuff like that.
No one would prefer to be in Cuba.
No rational person would prefer to be in Cuba.
I'm sorry.
You can say whatever you want and watch, show me any documentary about how their health care is better.
It is not better there.
Sorry.
So just I'm going to try.
We're time permitting.
A lot of you submitted some pre-show notes that I'm going to try to hit on.
And then we will get some super chats in.
So just finishing up with you, you said that a guy can't handle a girl showing off her body.
That's insecure.
Like the recent Jonah Hill text messages.
So did you think that Jonah Hill's boundaries that he attempted to set on his then-girlfriend, do you think that was controlling?
Do you think that was, what did you think that was?
Trust me, I get your point, right?
Everyone can be like, I'm not comfortable with my girlfriend posting bikini pics, whether you're surfing or not.
But I think it should have been discussed beforehand to kind of retroactively make her take things down and kind of put her in this situation where now we're in a relationship.
Yeah, so it was.
If you read the text messages, I will not allow for this continued disrespect.
It was discussed.
I don't understand why men bag a really bad bitch and then just expect her to stop being this bad business.
She can do whatever she wants, but then he also has the choice to not marry her because we like to say that.
Exactly.
But we said before that there are how many are there, how many Jonah Hills are there?
Joan Hill's probably going to die with half a billion dollars in his bank account at some point.
How many Jonah Hills are there versus how many of these Sarah Bradley surfers are there?
And the thing is, from her standpoint, what proves that I'm correct are the, I don't know if you guys saw the breakup text messages where he was like, you know, I just want to let you know I'm seeing someone else.
And she's like, nice job.
It's only been six months and you're already with someone else.
And then he has a baby with someone else and she has the audacity to then release all these text messages, making him apparently controlling, but they're broken up.
Why wait?
Why wait?
Why wait until I have my baby with someone else?
She seems to be happy with me.
And the woman I have my baby with, you know what else?
She actually liked the boundaries that I had.
Some woman had the audacity to say to me the other day, it's like, I hope you have a daughter.
Oh, or like, I hope your daughter ends up with a man like this.
A man like this who makes hundreds of millions of dollars and asks my daughter to not go around dressing like a slut.
Oh my God, I hope I never have a man like that in my life.
I would be so fucking happy if I had a dude like that.
Are you kidding?
Yeah, but Mike, can we agree that some women, though, are okay having those boundaries?
And like, it's not, I don't think it's a right or wrong.
It's with the wrong reason.
That's why your priorities are.
He gave her several chances to understand if you want to keep riding the Jonah Hill train, you have to do this.
And he can't, and by the way, an ultimatum is like when you don't want to back it up.
Those weren't threats.
He broke up with her.
He said, these are the things.
He goes, if these are the things that make you happy, I support it.
What a piece of shit.
He goes, I support it.
And then he goes, but this is not something that will work for me.
He was so.
That's so fair.
He was so cool about this.
Because at the end of the day, also, I feel like he's definitely supporting her fucking life.
So at the end of the day, she should be able to do it.
By those standards, every single traditional Muslim man is controlling.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
So are you saying that that's every single traditional Muslim man who asks his, who asks those things of his wife, every one of them is an abusive controller, if that's what you're saying.
Every, without exception, every single Muslim man is like that.
And I'm a Protestant saying this.
I think it depends if the woman is okay with it or not.
If she's okay with it, then I'm not.
Then we agree.
Then we agree.
And so she wasn't, she didn't change her behavior.
They broke up and she wasn't okay with it after he moved on.
So she posted private text messages between him and her.
She is 500%.
So like she was mad.
So there's two other problems.
There's two other problems.
Number one, calling that abuse is so belittling to women who actually suffer from abuse.
That's the second problem.
And here's the third problem.
These nonsensical fucking videos of therapists saying this, he's using controlling language.
And it's really, he's trying to say these are boundaries, but really this is abuse.
Now you fucking ruined therapy.
You've ruined therapy.
I don't know.
That's just because that's because psychologists can read between the lines and boundaries is something that you set for yourself, not for another person.
No, no, if I ask you in my relationship to not sleep with other men, that is a boundary I set for you and is a healthy boundary that I get.
You're setting a boundary for somebody else, not for yourself.
That's not what a boundary is.
Just donating a bunch of things.
Hey, swordless.
Good to see you, man.
Sorry for the interruption.
Go back to your point.
Have fun.
Swordless.
Thank you, man.
And by the way, thank you for the you gifted 10 memberships, though.
So thank you so much.
Good to see you in the chat, man.
Normally we see you on Twitch, but thank you for coming over to YouTube, man.
Appreciate it.
Okay, let me see here where we were.
So we touched on the Jonah Hill shit.
Got me heated.
Do you mind if I make one quick point?
Go ahead, then I'll take it.
So I think I can't remember if it was one of you two that mentioned it in terms of, and I agree that this is a conversation that should, I'm not versed on their relationship timeline.
I agree that it's a conversation that absolutely needs to happen in the beginning of a relationship.
But would you not agree that there are certain activities that you engage in when you are single that you would not engage in when you are not single and you are in a relationship?
Absolutely, but he still married this girl, right?
No, no, no, no.
They only dated.
Okay, I'll say that.
By the way, before we go on, I'm dating a world champion bikini model, and I don't care if she posts pictures of bikinis because that's her standard that I told her before we got into a relationship.
And if she didn't stay up to my standard, then I would say, hey, if these are the things that make you, I'm going to, if we have rig up, I'm going to write exactly what Jonah Hill did.
Exactly.
If these are the things that make you happy, I support it.
But it's not right for me.
He says she does the extrapolation.
My girlfriend does.
Yeah, I don't care.
I mean, I would have bikini to like, don't do it and you don't do that.
So in two seconds, she brought it up that she would take it down without me even asking.
Right.
I don't like the way he's spoke.
Sorry.
Like, what are we extrapolating from this?
Like, what's the point?
Because I feel like a lot of people that watch the Jonah Hill situation unfold genuinely were like, saw that he was in the right.
Like, I feel like a lot of people like to go to the next substitute so we can all talk.
Here's the point.
Well, hold on.
Here's the point.
I do want to say something.
A lot of people have not had an opportunity to speak.
I would like to make an attempt to try to give a little space so that some other people can speak.
You see this?
I'm just kidding.
Yeah.
Did you have a question or?
I asked him a question.
Yeah, my only issue was therapy.
That was the thing.
Is that therapists are now therapists are now making TikToks bashing Jonah Hill and now other therapists are watching this nonsense thinking that they have to act the same way.
That's weird.
It's like a different understanding of what boundaries mean.
It's like you can like whether or not you could set the boundary for yourself.
I'll tell you what, I'll set you guys up to have like a podcast.
You've been asking him a lot of questions, which I think is great.
I like that you're controlling.
But I do want to try to loop in a couple of other people here, okay?
All right.
So, I had something here for Priya.
You mentioned something about, let's see.
You can skip a lot of that.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I just provided some random talking points.
I've covered a lot of them, actually.
Oh, I thought it's like more people asked you on days.
No, no, no, no.
Okay, actually, I'm going to skip to, I'm going to skip over to you.
So you wanted to touch on, let's see, what was a good one?
What to bring to the table as a woman?
We talked about that.
You said don't do wifey things for your boyfriend.
What do you mean?
So I had this conversation with my friend a couple nights ago, and he was like, how do you feel about the whole girls being like, I'm not going to do wifey things for my boyfriend?
And I was like, I guess that's understandable.
Like, you know, I don't want to be a wife too soon.
Because then it's like, what do you have to marry me for?
Right.
But then we touched on, they're like, okay, well, I've never dated a girl and be like, hmm, she doesn't do these things.
Let me marry her to see if she does these things after I marry her.
So, yeah, I just wanted to know everyone's opinion on that about like being a wife to a boyfriend.
Why wouldn't you want to be a wife to your boyfriend?
Like, how early in the relationship are we talking about?
How early?
Okay, exactly.
Like, how early in the relationship, like, are you talking about?
Immediately.
Yes.
Immediately before you.
Are you even learning the title?
Before you even.
Well, what are some wifey things that you would consider wifey?
I guess it would depend.
I say this depends on the person you're dating because every man needs to be catered to differently.
Like, you know, if they're an athlete, you know, you want to be there for them.
Massage therapist, cook them a good protein, healthy meal.
You know, like things that they basically take stress out of their life.
Everybody got a different love language.
Exactly, exactly.
Which kind of person are you?
You know, some people don't like touch that much.
That's why I said it depends on the man you date.
I'm expecting them coming around, like, always trying to put your hands on them.
Yeah, so don't date somebody like that.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, because it's like, I would have to date somebody that knows that my love language is also providing.
So, you know, so why would I date someone that doesn't accept my love language?
That's kind of counterproductive.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, when you're dating, I feel like dating should be for marriage.
If you're a boyfriend and girlfriend with somebody, you should be able to see a future with that person.
So why wouldn't you want to treat them in the best way possible?
Why wouldn't you want to treat him like your husband?
If you plan on marrying this person, if you plan on being with them for the rest of your life, it makes no sense to not want to do things for this person just because it's not your husband, it's your boyfriend.
You want to prove to them that you are capable of being a good wife and a good caretaker to them and your future children if that's what you desire.
I will also say that social media probably ruined a lot of this because it's like the top women in the world get cheated on.
You can do all this quote-unquote wifey shit and still get cheated on, still get left.
So like it ruins your perspective on like, oh, maybe I'm doing too much.
And it's like, oh, she's going to stay here.
She's already done all this wifey stuff.
I got her locked in.
I could do whatever.
I feel like men take advantage sometimes.
They're not the right guy.
Like if it's the right person, then you know, it will work out.
But a lot of men will lie and cheat and manipulate.
She's so understanding.
She'll understand why I cheated.
Like, you know, like, so it's.
And you'll do all.
It makes you take a step back.
Like, ooh, maybe I should take this a little slower.
Maybe I shouldn't give all my qualities so soon in a relationship.
I feel like if it's someone I want to pursue and I want this man to be my man, then I would, I feel like it would almost be natural for me to start putting in a wife role even in the dating scene because like I want to do that for you.
Like you're my man.
Like, you know, I'm going to give you a massage.
I want to touch you.
You know, I want to cook for you.
I want to do that stuff because my feminine energy, what I do for him, makes him feel more like a man and makes him act like that towards me back in the nurturing, caring aspects.
And it's just like that feeling, you know, it's so beautiful.
Like I mean, I'm looking for that right now as well.
So her guns are open.
Because, you know, it's the same thing.
Like, you know, like, like what you're saying, I totally agree.
Like, I don't, I'm not, the reason why I'm not in a relationship is because it's so serious to me.
It's so serious dating to me that I'm not going to date you unless I see you being my husband.
Yeah, you haven't found someone that I want.
Why would you want to do that for somebody who, but if you were in a relationship with that person, you were going to care that you're going to do the most.
Exactly.
I'm going to do the most and I'm going to do above and beyond what I can do because I want to prove to myself that I can be a wife.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
And dating nowadays seems like a competition of who cares less and that is completely valuable.
I agree.
I agree.
Have you had a game movie?
I have not and I probably will not.
I've not been saying that movie.
Rolo and I are going to do a review on a hitch.
No, can you guys please?
I really, I really need a few.
What movie are we talking about?
The Barbie movie.
Oh, she's like really mean to Ken.
And that's like one part about it where I was just like, how are you supposed to show women empowerment when you're just belittling?
That's how you show women empowerment.
That's what we're doing.
Emasculating Ken and being mean to Ken is how girls will literally be like, oh, well, good for you.
Oh, she should.
You would only get a man.
Yeah, yeah.
You will literally say, oh, good for Barbie.
She doesn't need him.
She is her own person and she will always be her own person and she will never need Ken.
And that's how they make it.
At the end of the film, asked him to go find himself.
Well, yes, I know the movie I have.
Some of us have Barbie skies.
But I'm going to take this into consideration when I do go see it because I was curious.
I'm bootlegging it tonight.
And I'm very curious.
I'm promoting that because this is like number one movie.
This is like right next to Little Mermaid.
Well, I just want you to know if you are going to go see it.
Don't go into it thinking it's going to be like, ah, Fluffy, Barbie, like princessy.
Yeah, that's not allowed.
The other thing is, like, the idea of the movie.
It is not allowed.
But what you're describing is a 1985 Barbie where Barbie kind of looks like a Playboy model.
That wouldn't be allowed.
Those movies don't get funded.
That doesn't ever happen.
I knew what the Barbie movie was before they put it out.
Like, it's obvious that that's the only thing.
There is no alternative narrative.
There is no narrative where Barbie is like, I like having fun.
I don't want to work and Ken pays for my life.
There is no original Barbie movie.
Of course, but there is no narrative where Barbie can do that.
I love Ken and will do anything for him.
Get the fuck away from my man.
There is no Barbie movie like that.
That cannot be made.
If you thought that was a good idea.
Doesn't that be in every Barbie movie ever?
Correct.
But before, in 1985, yes.
It can't happen now.
But yeah, I mean, all I know about the Barbie movie is they drop, apparently they say the patriarchy, there's the patriarchy fucking 10 times in the movie.
It's obviously a dog shit fucking movie.
It was a good movie.
It was just like the way that everything was portrayed.
Don't go see that shit.
Go see Oppenheimer instead.
Yes.
The other thing that you wanted to touch on is hooking up on the first date.
Is it wrong or is it right?
So we'll go around the table on this.
How quickly, you know, do you have a three-date rule?
How long do you think you should wait before hooking up, having sex with a guy?
Let's start with you.
I personally am a, I think it's a demisexual person.
Is it like I have to have a connection with you?
There's so many like, you know, fucking intersexual.
Yeah, yeah.
Bro, like, I honestly, like, I could do the deed first night, but I will not give a fuck about you.
You know what I mean?
Like, I would rather get to know you as a person.
Like, and that sucks.
You know, it'd be like, shout out to Zirka.
Shout out to Zerka.
I would rather get to know someone.
I'm definitely someone who's like, I'd rather get to know you and then commit into something once it's like we have a connection, you know, because it makes that act so much more worth it when you know who this person is and you guys connect.
I'm not going to judge anyone if they do do hookup on the first night.
Like, I'm not someone that's going to judge someone if they do.
All right.
If they don't, it's not my preference, you know.
But, you know, do you?
The last guy that you hooked up with, how long did you wait?
I think we know.
Next one.
I think we have an answer.
Well, what's the answer?
It just, the last person, I knew them for like not too long, but yeah.
Right away, pretty much?
Or of course?
No, no.
Like, there's times where it does happen, you know?
It's not all the time, you know?
But the last time.
But the last time.
It was.
I thought you were demisexual, though.
I saw your clip.
I see.
I mean, sometimes you just, it's crazy because sometimes you just get bored and it's like, oh, well, there's something to do.
But, you know, I'm not going to say like, you know.
What about you?
What do you think?
I think momentum is very attractive.
So it's like people that I will have that energy with, it will just be there from the get-go.
But the more you can build up momentum, that's really attractive.
Sweet.
Oh, wait, so just I want to add one point to this question, going back to you.
What's, in addition to how long do you think you ought to or should wait, what's the fastest that you've ever hooked up with a guy?
So 10 seconds, 10 minutes, 10 seconds.
Did it take only 10 seconds?
It lasts only 10 seconds.
A minute, an hour, three hours.
I mean, I've definitely, like, I've had one night stands before or whatever.
What, like, what is the quickest point?
So basically, first meeting to P and the V. It's not like instant.
It's not like we're in the bar.
Let's go to the bathroom, do some bath and shit.
No, it'd be like end of the day, maybe.
Has been for me, like, beginning of the day, and then at the end of the day, be like, all right, yeah, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how you should do it.
You know, like, but not never like a couple hours for me personally.
That's just just a case.
Sure, sure.
Plead the fifth.
Plead the fifth.
Wait, so but your previous answer was you got to go with momentum or something?
Yes.
Can you scoot your chair into the momentum is more attractive, but can you define momentum?
A build-up.
A build-up.
The more that you have a connection with someone, the longer you go without wasting a connection away by making a move, right?
Just having that connection, that being able to do that.
To be anticipation?
Right, correct.
Would you not argue, though, that anticipation and like that momentum builds the longer that you wait?
It's not like the longest you go, like, it's not the longest you go, but it's to say, I'm not saying it's like, just based off who I'm attracted to, doesn't mean the quicker that it will be in bed.
So an hour?
I'll answer shit.
I was in my college days, you know, shit, that shit.
30 minutes, 30 minutes.
Yeah, you're at a college party.
We're like all in our 20s, bro.
Probably 30.
Probably less.
Like, what the fuck are we actually talking about here?
Like, you know, like, shit.
No, sorry, not to interrupt.
No, that had me getting to this one.
I like her.
She's funny.
Yeah, you're very funny.
So, okay, look, I'm a fucking.
You're just smiling a little too much.
I don't know how I feel about that, man.
You know, in college, whatever.
So I did 30 minutes.
So that's the bar for any of you guys if you're feeling shy about revealing it.
Do you want to reveal or not?
Right on, Kapasig.
I was not in the fraternity.
Sorry, we didn't hear.
Same date.
Same day, fair enough.
What about, um, biologically men lose interest, right?
After there, there are exceptions to that, but like, you know, I, I, I disavow.
I disavow.
Really?
Okay, well, that's what I've heard.
But yeah, if I'm interested in a guy, obviously I'll wait like a couple of dates, but I have in the past.
If you're not interested in the guy, I mean for a serious relationship.
I mean for relationship worthy.
If you just find someone good looking, I've been on a date before.
I always slept with them at the end of the date.
But I knew I wouldn't have done that if I wanted a serious relationship with them.
Wait, you didn't want a serious relationship with him?
No.
Just wanted to hook up, so I'll hook up with them on the first date.
But if I wanted, oh, this guy's husband material, I'm going to wait it out.
Isn't that interesting how that works?
So the guys that you were like.
Meh.
Nah, not getting pissed off.
You reward them.
I'm just curious, has this ever happened to any of you guys?
When you weren't in a relationship, you were willing to have a threesome.
And then when you got into a relationship, you weren't willing to have a threesome anymore?
Has this happened to any of you guys before?
Well, who's had a threesome?
Anybody?
You have, Brian?
No, I'm not.
Interesting.
Okay.
So, okay, you said Same night, and then but if the guy is relationship material, yeah, but that's because I've been taught that, like, it's not that like um, you're told all the time you have to wait three dates, nah, nah, nah, like you have to build it up.
This is what I hear, I don't know.
But Mac Miller was very attractive, so you just had sex with him immediately.
Sounds like I feel we didn't even touch that.
Rest in peace, but am I crazy?
That's what we're always told.
No, no, 100%.
Um, I definitely feel like men are easy, they are sluts.
Um, so if it's like, well, I see a guy, it's like you're willing to fuck me.
If I fuck you on the first day, you're no longer attractive to me.
Oh, you lose attraction for the guy.
Oh, absolutely.
You just let me fuck on the first date.
That's so crazy.
Wait, so even though you engaged in seven years ago, but that I look, I already knew it wasn't going any further because he was already willing for it.
I was like, all right, cool, let's do this then.
What if he was like just super attracted to you?
He didn't have any qualms about sleeping with you immediately.
And then he actually did want a long-term relationship.
If the guy wanted a long-term relationship with you, but you guys did hook up quickly on your end, despite his desire to have a love.
He's like, you do know that, right?
What do you mean?
He's not going to.
If he wanted to marry you and you let him fuck on the first date, he's going to fuck you.
You do know that, right?
Yeah.
So you just ruined an opportunity for some dude who may want to be in a relationship with you.
But I didn't want to be in a relationship with him.
Why is that?
But let's say there was a chance that you did.
If I did, I wouldn't have fucked him.
Okay, right.
But the thing is, it's not his fault if he tries to have sex with you on the first day.
There's like all the guys out there that are like, she made me wait, but there were all these other dudes that she didn't want to be in a relationship with.
So he just let them hit.
Like, they just got to hit.
I don't think you should do it often.
I definitely feel like, I don't think you should do it often.
I don't think you should just go out and be like, not wait for material.
Let me just fuck you.
Like, that's kind of slutty.
But it's like, I feel like if you catch a vibe and it's like, damn, I'm not, I'm not, it's not giving relationship, but it's giving we can have a cool night.
Like, all about the vibe.
I'm curious, has that ever happened because the guy is either like really good looking or really high status and you just don't think you can get him to settle down?
And that's why.
Never.
I just like, I get the ick really fast.
Like, you wear the wrong jeans on the date.
And it's just like, I don't know.
I just like, I have, I really get the, I get the turn off so fast.
If you tell me all water tastes the same, I don't even want to think about being in a relationship with you.
Tastes the same.
Exactly.
Like, one guy, he was like, what's the dinner?
I was like, can you give me a Fiji water?
He's like, what's the difference?
They all taste the same.
Never fall that man again.
Wait.
He is drinking like.
And it's like, you never saw him again, but did you have to sell it?
Now I dragged him.
He wasn't even worth sex.
Like, now I'm just like, he wasn't even worth sex.
Yeah.
Wait, hold on.
Just to be clear.
He said he drank Fiji water and that was the.
No, no, no.
I asked him to give me a Fiji water.
We was like, part of getting Wawa.
He's like, Fiji.
Wait, you'd like Fiji water, first of all?
I fuck with Fiji water.
Fiji's dog shit.
You think so?
I mean, I like a central.
Censure's my favorite, but I just like Fiji.
You got that one thing.
I'm not a lot of Fiji water.
I hydrate.
I got to interrupt really quick.
So my downstairs neighbor has been like, is a fucking Karen.
And I'm not upset with anybody.
I didn't disclose it.
She's like been fucking causing a lot of issues with our landlords.
apparently the fucking the insulation or whatever between the floors is like dog shit so she can like so um one and i think it's only happened once or twice during the show I just asked, if nobody, if just don't try to avoid stomping because she's a fucking Karen and like freaks the fuck out.
And our last show, she came and banged on the door and she was like, $100.
Priya.
Yo, Martin.
Seven figures.
estate construction in southeast d1 college athlete mid 30s 70 acre farm in tn i own a non-profit that helps dogs and horses martin foundation brian has my personal details minus one hundred percent true G600 fly out in two days.
Is that a plane?
Just ailing?
Uh-oh.
I think the other one is.
I would like to.
I would like to add a little something.
I'm friends with Mark Wavius.
He did save me from an animal, but he's also part of Mensa.
So he's a very high IQ individual, top 1%.
And he's a good guy.
He's a good guy.
So you have three suitors so far for this show.
That's the most attractive series.
Can you, guys, can you spread it around?
Look at all these, you know, thank you.
She wants him.
Oh, no.
Wait, Martin.
Martin.
How do you pronounce it?
I'm happy for you.
Honestly, look at you.
You're so cute.
You're over here for you.
Wait.
Martin, do you like women with sternum tattoos?
Oh, look.
She's got like a flash right here.
That's more of a xiphoid process tattoo.
That's not quite the sternum.
Is it?
The sternum ends here.
It's the xiphoid process with the two.
Yeah, it's lower.
She's like, oh, you're correct.
I was like, oh, I told him sternum.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you, Martin.
Appreciate it.
Priya, if he DMs you, will you respond?
Sure.
She sounds so good.
Bring out the G600.
We kind of want to see it, though.
Pull up here at whatever.
Were we talking about fucking Fiji water?
Was that a fire?
Yeah, we were.
Okay, it might have been sounds like 19.
I understand that Fiji, after I've had other waters because they don't taste the same, essential is definitely top tier.
So you ghosted him because he thought Fiji water was comparable to other types of Fiji.
He was like, doesn't even matter.
Doesn't all water taste the same?
And that's when you knew that was your deal breaker.
Oh, absolutely.
I think girls can talk about x.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm really curious to see the rest of the panel and what they do.
Honestly.
Yeah, we'll talk about x human.
We'll continue moving around.
So moving over to you.
About that water.
How long should you wait?
This is the two-parter.
Like, what I think.
How long do you think you, like, what's a good time, amount of time to wait?
And what's the quickest that you've ever hooked up with a guy?
I mean, I think everyone's different, and I don't like to judge, but personally, I think it's crazy when people just like give themselves to like anybody.
But that's just my personal opinion.
So what do you think?
Do you have a third date rule?
You never had a one, is what you're saying.
In your life?
No.
Never?
I haven't been with a lot of people.
Stop the cap.
Okay.
I mean.
Yeah, I hear story.
I want.
So this is weird to say, but I'll say it anyway.
So when I was younger, I would always, like, I've always, I've been in monogamous relationships.
Never when I stands and whatever.
And I've always thought about like my magical, like futuristic, like husband or person or partner and like my forever partner.
That's always been my goal to find that.
And that's a lot of people's goals, right?
And I always thought, what would they want?
Because I know what I would want.
And yes, men and women are different, but I would want my partner to be conscientious and selective.
And I don't know.
That's just me, I guess.
I know.
It's that exciting.
It's not exciting.
What's the least amount of time you have waited, though, in your few partners?
Yeah.
You're sure about that.
You sure about that?
Six months.
No, three months.
Yeah, I'm not going to bed a Celsius.
You're a higher, my guy.
I haven't been with a lot of people.
I just have long-term relationships, and I haven't had a lot of them.
So it just makes sense.
I naturally haven't been with a lot of people.
What's the shortest amount of time I got waited?
Three months?
Three months.
Three months?
Yeah.
That's good.
Mike, would you wait three months?
So I would not realize I was waiting three months because I would be dating other women.
So you'd keep her on the slow burner.
I mean, it wouldn't even be a slow burner.
For me, it's like every date is a fun interaction.
And then we go.
It's like, oh, well, she doesn't want to sleep with me.
That's fine.
Then I'm going to go out somewhere else.
What would probably happen is after about a month, I'd be like, hey, we're all going to go on stage to see fucking the chain smokers or marshmallow on stage in access.
Do you want to come?
And she'd just go along with me and like seven other girls.
That's happened to me before.
And then after three months, a girl's been like, okay, now I want to sleep with you.
That's happened before.
I just, but no, waiting for one girl for three months, that's not possible.
No.
Oh.
Word.
Everybody's different.
What about you?
So talk about the guy who waited for three months.
The guys who waited for three months, do you think they saw anyone else while they were waiting for three months?
No.
I mean, my boyfriend, no.
Like, he waited.
He waited, but he didn't see.
You don't think he saw anyone else?
No.
Okay, the boy before.
I'm probably watching right now.
The one before, do you think he saw anyone else while he was waiting three months?
I don't think it was exactly three months.
It was probably, you know.
Man, I can hear that northern New York accent.
Can you?
I'm always told that, like, I don't have a New York accent, but sometimes it comes out in weird ways.
And I'm like, oh.
Is this alcohol in this thing?
No, it's energy.
No, it's energy.
I'm wondering the next girl.
What about you?
So I chase men, so normally the first night.
There we go.
Oh, period.
I'm boring.
You know what?
Shout out to Honesty.
That's awesome.
When I was in the beginning of college, I would sleep with men on the first date, and it ruined me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Why did it ruin you?
No, so I stopped.
Oh, it's not.
Wait, so what's the quickest?
Like, 20 minutes or what?
Oh, no.
Normally, well, I mean, I've been rejected before, but normally, like, normally the men I chase, I like see them from afar and then kind of watch them and then like observe what kind of man they are.
Sure.
And my current relationship, I was talking to his friend before.
And then once me and the friend didn't, or me and his friend didn't work out, I pursued that guy.
Period.
And I wanted to sleep with him, of course, the first night because I was interested in him.
Okay.
So when you were in college.
Yeah, I came from a Christian fundamentalist household.
And then when I went to college, like that postmodern feminism was like, spread your legs, act like a dude.
And I was like, yeah, hell yeah.
I should just have sex with whoever I go on a date on and go back to their apartment.
And it's totally fine.
And had to learn the hard way that that's not how you're supposed to act.
But that happened to a lot of people.
Yeah, I was never taught from a young age, like really anything about sex.
So I had to figure it out on my own.
And I was left to myself and the devices of Twitter.
Go ahead.
So I have a question.
I mean this like for my own experience as well.
Do you feel like you were sleeping with men in college to give you like validation for yourself?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
But there was a facade of this is what feminism is, to the point where I would actually write the dudes' names on a list because it made me feel like...
Oh, yeah, don't open my notes up.
like powerful, it made me feel like, yeah.
The notes app.
Wait, okay.
The notes app.
Yeah.
She had a little notes app.
She had a notch count.
I did.
I did have a notch count.
I don't have y'all counting on notes app.
Yeah.
I know, y'all.
When we were in college, doesn't that seem like a great thing?
But then we get up, we get out of college, and then we're like looking for a wife.
You're like, damn.
Yeah, yeah.
Kelly, what about you?
I don't see a problem with like, you know, hooking up with someone on the first night.
Especially as a woman, I feel like I make the decision if I know I'm going to sleep with you or not on the first, like before even meeting you.
So at that point, it's like, if I find you attractive, on the first date, there's no problem with me sleeping on you on the first date.
It's where after that, it's like, if we got along and everything went well and like it wasn't weird, then that's where it could like, you know, eventually maybe one day it will like go into something else.
But, or if not, it will just be, oh, well, like, who cares?
But I don't think there's that much of an issue with sleeping on the first date.
Priya, what about you?
What was the first part of the question?
How long do you think you should wait, and what's the quickest that you've...
I don't necessarily know if there's a timeline on it, but I probably would say when you're in a committed monogamous relationship, once you establish that.
And the shortest you made a guy wait was two years.
No, the shortest was a little over a month.
You sure about that?
Wait, so you're saying you'd want to be exclusive before sleeping with someone?
Yep, ideally.
Yep.
Yeah.
So you don't want to.
Try out the car before you buy it.
No, I would have a conversation with that person before.
I would say that definitely.
I feel like everyone's experience would be different.
I dated a guy for four months before I slept with him, and it was the worst sex of my life when we actually finally had to be able to do that.
Isn't that unfair too?
He was perfect.
Oh my God.
It is frustrating because as a woman, I feel like it's hard to say, oh, like I'm leaving him because the sex wasn't good.
Sorry, it does kind of slightly matter because, yes, I would be upset, too, if I waited four months to have sex with this man and the sex was literally the worst body of my life.
But he was the perfect man, though.
Like that really isn't that.
And they say men are superficial.
Can I ask what they find?
Yeah, I was going to say, I'm not going to argue that sexual compatibility isn't important, but I think it can also be developed.
And I think that there are many studies that show that women have better sex when they are in long-term relationships.
And I think that's because, especially women, get more and more comfortable in the bedroom the longer you're with a partner and the more comfortable you are with that person.
I mean, that's the attachment.
I just like to tell you.
It was a size thing, not a compatibility thing.
How do you think?
Because it's size and small thing.
Not a compatibility thing.
Does size matter?
Does size matter?
That's a real compatibility thing.
Raise your hand if size matters.
Yeah, we'll do a raise of hands.
Does size matter?
No, that's hard.
I just don't know what we're doing.
It's like a half raise because to an extent.
Flighty matters.
Thickness matters.
It's not everything.
All of it flight matters.
It's like you can't just have like a small dick and not know how to, you know.
If you have the motion, like good for you.
I think too.
I think too big is worse than size, like this.
I feel like a lot of men don't disagree.
But it's real.
They don't need to be bigger.
I'm just saying.
To be fair, though, like this, I think your conversation of, okay, well, the sex wasn't great, right?
Well, you said it was primarily because he wasn't.
Yeah.
But like also a guy could be like average or above average in size and but also be bad in bed.
Absolutely.
So let's be fair though.
Let's be fair.
It's fucking easy to be good in bed as a woman, whereas it's like men actually have to put in work to be honest.
I mean if you like a girl that lays on her back, yeah.
Yeah.
How sharp is she here?
The men are looking at you anyway at all.
I'm going to say this and maybe this is just me, but I've heard other guys that agree with me.
How good the sex is is directly proportional to how hot she is.
Yeah.
Sorry, I know you guys think it's, oh, it's because I do the Gluck Luck 9000.
No.
Oh, no.
How good the sex is for me is directly proportional to how hot the girl is.
Wait, that's what you believe?
Yes.
It is directly proportional to physically attracted the girls.
I feel like I want to stay in.
There are multiple girls.
That is what that matters more than anything else.
I've got a couple baby moms that broke the other way.
You guys ready?
I'm doing an impression.
Go mine.
So am I. Anybody?
So mine.
Oh, no.
I'm leaning to the plug.
Oh, no.
I love her.
I don't do that.
She's awesome.
Lena's awesome.
She seems so sweet.
I know.
She seems awesome.
I didn't say anything wrong with her.
I just said.
I was just making an impression of Leaning the Plug.
R.I.P. Adam 22.
No, Adam 22 is awesome, too.
I love Adam.
There's nothing wrong with it.
Technically, you're doing chemicals.
I'm just doing an impression of Leanna the plug.
He's giving a power myriad apparently.
Where were we?
Friya, does size matter?
No, well, yeah.
Because, like, here's the difference, right?
A girl, like, let's say a girl was just a pillow princess.
Like, you put a guy in that situation.
Maybe it's not like ideal for him.
Maybe he wants the girl to be a bit more involved.
But like, you put a guy into that situation where a girl is a pillow princess, he could still come.
However, if like most, and there's this talk of like orgasm gaps.
Granted, I think it's a good thing if women orgasm, but I don't know.
No, no, I don't know.
Hold on, let me finish my point.
So there's this talk of orgasm gaps, and like feminists are all up in arms about, oh, women aren't climaxing and all this shit.
To be fair, it's harder to make a woman climax than it is to make a man climax.
Not in all situations.
There are some women who are like insanely orgasmic where they'll come in 10 seconds and they can have multiple orgasms.
However, the orgasm response in women is so much more varied than it is.
Men are fairly simple on that front, whereas women, there can be totally different, major differences between the two.
Bye-bye, the fuck up women and orgasm.
The main thing I would point out is the main thing I would point out is a guy, if a girl was just literally laying there doing nothing, 99% of men could, like, if they were having intercourse with you, could make themselves come.
If the guy was just laying there, how many of you could make yourselves come putting in work?
I think a lot of women do, right?
They get on top and they do it themselves.
And he's not doing anything.
Well, I'm not speaking to you.
I'm not saying that's one thing.
I've been saying if I could, could I make it happen?
Yeah, I could.
I was a little engine that could.
I think about it.
I mean, most, I think a lot of women need to be able to do that.
Yes, in general, you're right.
A lot of women need either some sort of clitoral stimulation.
There's going to need to be some sort of stimulation.
But like, I would say, can some women make themselves come if the guy's just fucking laying on his back?
Sure, some women can, but I'd say most, like, probably most can.
And also, there's a lot, there's a fair subset of women who can't even make themselves come.
So this demands that, like, oh, there's an orgasm gap.
I think it's kind of bogus.
But so, yeah.
Well, I think there is an orgasm gap because you said it's harder for women to come, right?
So like, that's the gap in and of itself.
There is a gap, but they blame men.
The blame is on men.
Men don't care about women's orgasms, but the fact of the matter is, there's a decent subset of women that can't even make themselves climax through masturbation, even alone.
And then like there's there's nothing to be said for the greater difficulty in terms of being able to make a woman come versus or what that does to a man's ego or like his performance anxiety or anything like that.
Word.
There are times where I'm just like in my head or like just really not able to and just there's like a whole complex situation going on that he's completely unaware of.
I do want to bring it back here really quick to our discussions of the guy making the guy who you like wait for sex, but the guy who you don't see any long-term potential, the Chad, the really good-looking guy, the guy when you're traveling, when he's traveling, he's in town for a night, you sleeping with him really quick.
So I have two scenarios I'd like to paint and I want your guys' feedback on this.
So thoughts on this scenario?
You've been in a situation, excuse me, you've been in a situationship with a guy for six months.
You really like him.
You want him to commit to you, but he says he likes to take things slow.
Somehow you find out that the last three girls he had a committed relationship with, he initiated the commitment conversation after only three weeks of dating.
How does that make you feel?
Well, if he got through three relationships, Like, if three of them didn't work, maybe he does need to slow down.
You know, like why three weeks in, you're talking about commitment.
I don't think three weeks is even enough time to know if you want to be committed to a person.
I actually, I mean, I actually don't think that three weeks, depending on how many times, how many times you've hung out with someone, is all that long.
Exactly.
So it's like she's finding out, oh, he had this conversation three weeks after with these girls.
You shouldn't felt that way.
You should be lucky he's not having that conversation with you.
I would be scared if a guy was talking about committing to me after three weeks.
Like, barely know me.
So maybe he learns his lesson.
It was like, all right, good.
At least you're not trying to commit in the first month.
Let's take it slow.
But six months, I think you need to know what you want by six months at least.
I think most women would feel like shit.
Yeah, six months, have you?
No, I mean, like, most women would feel like shit if they found out that, like the guy slept with the.
Let's not, let's not hyper focus on the the.
Okay, if you think three weeks is too soon to have the commitment talk, fine.
The point is, is that in all his past relationships he initiated the commitment conversation.
If you want to change the timeline to two months so it's more plausible, that's fine.
Uh, but he hasn't done it with you.
If a guy wants to date you, you'll know that like isn't that.
Well, that's what i've been learning from the boys.
They'll know, they'll know.
And so when a guy usually says I want to take it slow or whatever, usually that's like a red flag sign.
Like usually six months or whatever, usually they know right off the bat after first or second date.
If you're you know, obviously they'll get to know you more.
But yeah okay fine, let me give you.
Let me give you another analogy to try to paint this.
Okay, all right um, so don't shoot the messenger here.
So making a man wait while you smashed the hot dude that you knew you weren't going to commit to just hooking up with a bunch of dudes uh, so making the man wait while you smash Chad after a few beers on the slow tuesday would be like me going to Mcdonald's and, while everyone else is eating there, paid one dollar for that cheeseburger.
The clerks look at me and says it's a thousand dollars for you sir, means you're special.
By the way, this is an analogy, don't i'm not trying to say the same thing earlier, like that's exactly my point.
It's like you guys, when you say this kind of stuff, it's like hey, I don't want to commit to you, you're just a hot guy i'm on a date with, so i'm gonna have sex with you immediately.
And then you meet some other guy who's a gentleman to you, like wow, I see long-term potential, i'm gonna make him wait.
If those two dudes ever meet, if there was a place where men like that ever shared stories like the manosphere and marriage, then they then then they're not going to allow that behavior.
They're Are going to be like, wait, she didn't make you wait.
She let you fuck on the first date, but she's making me wait.
For you guys, you think, no, no, no, no, you're a relationship guy.
You're special.
That's not how he feels, though.
He doesn't feel special because you had sex with the other guy on the first date.
That's why.
You say you can't tell people how they feel.
Wait, what's that?
Hi, and you can't tell me how to feel.
I'm gonna tell you how to feel.
I'm telling you, exactly.
How are you gonna say he feels that way?
How do you know that?
A guy?
Well, guys have to put in work to have a lot of people.
Seriously?
Like, that's all they sit there and comment about this the whole time.
You really think guys don't feel that way?
You really think a guy who's trying to be in a relationship with you is not gonna be bothered by the fact that you let a bunch of other dudes fuck on the first date while you made him while you made him wait a month?
You really think that?
I mean, why are you concerned about guys?
I'm not concerned about that.
I mean, I'm just saying, like, why would the guy be concerned about guys?
Because body count matters.
Because it does, it matters to them.
Really?
Because I feel like what matters is those test results.
Because you can have a body count of three, I'll have them all.
That's not what it is.
There's literally studies from there's literally studies that show as women have more sexual partners before marriage, the likelihood of them being happy in a marriage decreases.
Oh, absolutely.
But it's not the same thing that happens for men.
It's not the same thing for men.
Absolutely.
But when you have, when you so it does matter, it would matter to me if you've had if you let a bunch of dudes smash on the first date for sure and you made me wait a bunch of rosters.
Hold on.
You better forget if we ever bump into each other and then I found out that you didn't make him wait and you made me wait.
You're salty that I let a guy smash and like, what?
Like, I don't know.
If you have a roster of guys you let smash on the first date, yeah, I'd be a little salty that like I wasn't on that roster.
You should just let me smash too.
But you know, but it's like, if it's like, okay, I found, I ran to this one guy that you let smash on the first date and I'm the one guy that you didn't let smash on the one day.
Are you really going to be salty about that?
I'm telling you a lot of guys would yes.
Unequivocally, most men would yes, absolutely.
Are you serious?
Like, I'm not sure.
This is not meant to be inflammatory at all, but this is what I was talking about when I say like the chasm between men and women.
Like, he's trying to tell you that, like, men feel a certain type of way.
And you're trying to say, like, well, why?
That doesn't make sense.
It's like, well, we, when we talk to men, we want them to understand how we feel in certain situations.
Like, we need to open our ears, you know what I mean?
And, like, listen to what they're saying.
I was just speaking from my experience.
Like, I've been saying that.
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
I understand.
I've been in relationships.
One, one, not gonna lie, one of my first long-term relationships was, well, not my first, my last long-term relationship.
I did sleep with him on the first date, but I didn't see a relationship with him.
We still were friends, and I was like, you know what?
Maybe we could pursue this after, you know?
But it just goes from there.
I guess like it all goes off a vibe.
Like, I can date a guy, like I said, for four months and then sleep with him, and it's the worst decision of my life, or I can sleep with him the first date, and it'd be a solid decision.
Or I can sleep with him first date and not want to pursue you after.
Right.
My personal take on this: look, if you previously slept with, for example, 20 guys first night, then I come along and then you're going to make me wait.
You want to make me wait four dates.
Maybe you had a change of heart and that's just your standard moving forward.
Again, it's your body.
It's 100% your choice.
I wouldn't try to like pressure a girl into it.
However, we men are within our right to also view that and be like, what the fuck?
Absolutely.
Like, absolutely.
But how many guys are your standards?
It's one thing if they want to.
Like, the roles reverse with guys.
Like, guys are, it's so socially acceptable for guys to do whatever they want, especially in a sexual manner.
Like, and it also goes back to culture.
And especially, like, most cultures are okay with guys doing whatever.
Like, literally, like, I'm personally Latina.
And in Latina culture, guys can do whatever they want.
That's true.
And they are not scrutinized by their mothers, grandmothers, nobody.
And it's, it's like, it goes, it goes back to fucking decades and centuries of just breeding masculinity and in some cases, a lot of cases, toxic masculinity.
But it's just like, as soon as a woman does something that's no such thing as toxic masculinity.
No such thing.
Where toxic people and those toxic people can be masculine or feminine.
But when the man pulls you out of your burning building, you don't give a fuck how masculine he is.
There's no too masculine then.
Masculinity is masculinity.
Femininity is femininity.
There is such thing as toxic masculinity.
There is no disavow.
So toxic masculinity was a term created in the 1990s when psychologists were trying to study violent offenders in prison.
When guys would step on each other's toes and then they would start stabbing each other.
It was just a term that was used by those psychiatrists to determine a type of behavior where men would resort to extreme levels of violence for no reason.
And then somehow mainstream psychology got a hold of it and became this pop term.
There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.
There is just masculinity.
And then there are some people who are toxic.
That has nothing to do with each other.
I can show you tons of people who are extremely toxic online.
And some of them are masculine and some of them are feminine, but the two are mutually exclusive.
The idea of toxic masculinity is to shame men for doing things that other people don't agree with.
There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.
Alrighty.
So that's fine.
Maybe the word might not be using the right word, but there is.
It doesn't matter.
Like it's a man's world at the end of the day.
It really is.
And men are socially acceptable.
It's acceptable for a man to have sex with so many women.
But as soon as it's a woman doing that, it's like crazy.
It does go back to biology.
Well, because the reason why that it's socially acceptable and men get so much praise for it is because it's a lot harder for a man to get laid than a woman.
So when a woman, a woman can 10 out of 10, most of the time, a woman will get laid 10 out of 10.
A man is not going to be 10 out of 10.
So a man has to work a lot harder to have sex.
I don't give a fuck.
They have to work a lot harder.
It is what it is.
Like it is what it is.
It's okay for a man to have sex with whoever, have one-night stands, do whatever happens.
That's not okay.
I mean, the Catholic Church would say that it's not okay.
But the Catholic Church also rapes kids.
So what are we talking about?
Like, you know what I mean?
I don't know that actually the Catholic Church is aware of the church.
That was one of the words.
We're going to delete that.
I don't believe that.
The Protestant church would have a problem with it.
Okay.
There's a bunch of places that would have a problem with it.
I was just bringing up one point.
It wasn't like to be like, you know, like, let's stay focused.
We were talking about the, we were talking about like a girl who slept with 30 dudes first date, then you as the relationship guy come along and then she wants to make you wait three months.
Kind of ridiculous.
I know I remember, I think this was must have been six months ago.
I was on a date with a girl.
She was in her 30s.
You know, she's probably, I didn't ask her body count, but let's, you know, probably 10, 20, 30 plus, whatever.
She had told me, you know, we were talking about past relationships.
She said that the last guy she dated, she'd been dating him for one or two years.
She was like, oh yeah, actually, the way we met is I was staying at his Airbnb and then like I check in and then like literally the night I move in like we fucked.
I'm like, okay, cool.
And then like, you know, I was, you know, whatever.
We were on a date and she was into me and then like we were hanging out.
But she was like, oh no, I think we're, I kind of want to like wait.
You know.
I think a lot of women and like, bro, it's, it's like, it's like, look, that's your call, but like your last fucking relationship that was a long-term relationship, so it wasn't evidence of like, oh, it was just a one-night stand.
And it's like, I'm going to look at that.
I'm going to be like, I actually no longer want a relationship with a girl.
Like, now, because you're, you're playing a game because it's not your genuine standard.
It's just like, either, I either think one of two things.
I think like you're playing, you're playing a game with me.
You're using sex as leverage to secure a relationship.
No, right, resources, not even a relationship, just attention and resources.
I'm just using it as leverage.
Or I just, honestly, the thing that strikes me is you're just not that fucking into me because like, I want that, you know, this is Rolo's thing, genuine burning desire.
Shout out Roland Tomasi by the rational male.
Like, if all your previous relationships, like, you had this one standard, if all your previous relationships, your standard was, hmm, okay, I'm going to wait four dates.
That's fair.
I get that.
But you just fucked a guy two weeks ago and now you want me to wait two months.
Like, get the fuck out.
Like, again, it's your call, but I'm like, I've just, I'm like, okay, she's not, she's either not into me or she's like basically playing a game.
So then at that point, I've just lost interest.
What game do you think she's playing?
Just she's using sex as leverage.
A lot of them.
And like, I don't, if, because it's not a genuine standard of hers, because if two months ago you fucked a guy immediately, then it's not a genuine standard you have when it comes to your sexuality.
Would you think differently if like she had like lived one way in her past, but like hadn't created a new standard for herself like going forward?
That's not what's going on in the situation that's not.
But that's not what's going on.
Like if like for the past five years like that's been her new standard, she had some fucking wild times in college.
Even then that's not ideal.
Because as me and Mike were saying and a couple other people were saying, like obviously body count matters, but strictly from a behavioral sense, yeah, not great.
But it's more understandable if like she's changed.
Right, right.
Hey, guys, by the way, everything we're saying comes down to, do you find someone who accepts those things?
You're right.
If you say, hey, the guy doesn't care that I had multiple bodies, that's fine.
I'm just telling you, most high-status men are not going to behave that way.
It's just a function of statistics.
That's it.
Oh, you were saying something?
Oh, I think if I'm understanding correctly, it's less that you're saying that it's, you know, you're not judging somebody for, you know, sleeping with someone like on the first date or fourth date or whatever.
It's just like, from a man's standpoint, it doesn't make sense.
Well, it's the fact that you're holding the standard to just him and not everybody else that you've had these.
Yeah, you had an epiphany and now you've gotten right with God and now you go to your yoga class and your third chakra is open and now you've decided you make men wait when all the other men didn't.
That's fine if you believe that.
I'm just not going to sit around and wait for that.
That sounds ridiculous.
It kind of, oh, sorry, I didn't mean to.
Yeah, I mean, it kind of makes the guy who you're making wait feel a little scammed.
Like, it's not like a genuine thing that, like a genuine standard that you actually have.
I don't know.
It's like you read some bullshit in the magazine.
Oh, you should make guys wait.
Oh, let me try it.
And then, like, I don't know.
It's just kind of.
There's a lot of stuff out there that's not you should make guys weight.
Yeah, that's it.
It's easy for women to be messing around with non-quality guys for so long that when they do get a quality guys like you say, they try to find any which way to hold on and they don't actually have rational or real reasons, real ways to actually do that.
They just make up ways in their house.
I fucked with my boyfriend the first night and he's a quality man.
So same thing.
Yeah.
Well, would you believe that that girl that like, you know, that you were just mentioning if she said that like she screwed that guy, but like she wanted you to wait because like she didn't want you to think like lesser of her, like she really wanted to take it slow with you.
We should have that conversation.
I can explain to her.
That's nonsense.
Like let's get that on.
I'm actually curious.
Well, my personal view is, and look, there are certainly men out there who, if they will judge a woman if that woman sleeps with them too quickly.
My personal view is while that could potentially be an indicator of, for example, promiscuity, I don't think it's necessarily, like if a woman sleeps with you quickly, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's slept with a bunch of men or she's promiscuous.
So me personally, all of my long-term relationships, that many of them have been really wonderful relationships with great girls, almost all of them within the first three dates.
Okay.
One girl on the second date, one girl on the first date.
Some guys are like, okay, if she gives it up too quick, then she's for the streets.
That's not my view.
Yeah, it's not confused.
That's not my view, but some guys do have that view.
I get confused as a woman sometimes, like really grappling with this because it's like, you don't want to give it up too quickly because you don't want the guy to think that you're hoe.
But then if you really like the guy, it's kind of like a, what do I do?
Like, how is he going to view me sort of thing?
Yeah, well, which is what you were saying is like you're not being genuine to your standard.
You're kind of like fixing it based off of like the dude.
And at least for me personally, like if I sleep with a girl, me personally, I have, and maybe I'm an outlier in this.
I have no interest in sleeping with a girl once.
To me, it's just a waste of time.
Like if I sleep with a girl, I want there to be a continuity.
Maybe we only hang out three or four times, but like I do genuinely want to at least try to pursue something.
I'm not interested in one night stand.
It's not worth my time.
I view it as a waste of time.
And also, just even if your motivation was purely sexual, or excuse me, even if your motivation was purely just to get sex, I actually think that, first off, the first time you have sex with someone, really, I personally don't think it's going to be the best.
I think sex is better at like the more you have them.
The more times you've got sex with them.
So one, just on a purely physical level, you know what they like.
They know what you like.
You build a comfort.
So I think that makes the sex better.
But me personally, yeah, I'm not interested in one-night stands.
I do prefer, if I sleep with a girl, I want to continue sleeping with her.
So would you disavow the fresh and fit idea of recreational use versus like relationship use for a woman?
You know what I mean?
Well, there's signs that you would see that would tell you this girl has red flags.
Or one of those signs would be sleeping with somebody on the first date.
No.
They just said that it's not considered.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I don't want to speak on behalf of them because I haven't been keeping tabs specifically on what their talking points are.
But so what was the.
Basically the idea is that it's a red flag if she sleeps with you on the first date.
I mean, that's some guys' opinions.
Well, I would do black.
That's a good way to say it too.
Like, if you'd be trying to be a value woman, if you want to look out for what men are looking for, right, right.
There's so many of my friends that are married, married couples, and they slept together on the first date.
Like, I just know too many of them.
There's just so much attraction.
And they just did it.
So, like, I don't know.
I don't know what the right answer is there.
But I think the thing that we're saying is, by the way, if you can find someone to believe in whatever your standard is, then you can get away with anything you want, right?
But in this case, if you consistently sleep with guys on the first date and then you make this last guy wait, the thing is, dudes know everything now.
I'm sorry, ladies, like, there's this digital footprint that you have.
You think you're going to get away with it?
It's not that you can't keep a secret.
It's that dudes run their fucking mouth about how many girls they've fucked and they're going to tell you.
It just depends if you're honest or not.
Like, I'm personally honest.
Like, if someone was to ask me, like, what's up, like, hey, what is your sexual history?
I'd be like, it's this, you know?
And then we all decided we can decide together that.
So it's like, that would only happen to like sneaking around or finding out if the person's not honest.
And then it just goes back to that person's character and who they are.
I don't understand.
You guys are talking when you meet someone and you're saying, okay, how many people people in your past have you slept with on the first date?
Y'all still have that conversation?
Yeah, like I don't understand.
I would never talk to someone like that, I don't think.
No, no, but someone might find that out about you.
Yeah, but maybe one guy, you maybe find out one guy that you know, like a mutual friend that, oh yeah, you know, she slept with me on the first date, but you don't know what you're saying.
No, I just see because the advent of social media, I found like I, without even trying, I know what a bunch of girls have done because dudes just run their fucking mouth.
Yeah, the world is just run your mouth.
Dudes run their mouth, man.
They run their mouth so much.
Yeah, just one last thing on this point, and then we do need to get to a couple of chats here.
So if she's had sex with men more easily in the past and you harder now, so she makes you wait.
There's this nat, and I kind of already touched on this.
There's a natural gut reaction that the current guy or you is less sexually desirable to her than her previous partners.
So if she had sex with them faster, she must, this may not be the case, but that's what a guy might think, that she's just not that attracted to you.
Yeah.
And she sees you as like provider, like safety, safety net.
And like, that's not how a guy wants to feel.
So men don't want to be a desired person.
In my coaching program, we use the opposite.
Like Brandon Carter, I did an interview with him, and he was like, he said he got stood up by a girl one time and he asked himself, he goes, would she have stood Drake up?
She wouldn't have stood Drake up.
And then that made him go to the gym more.
Oh, yeah.
That made him make more money.
Now the dude is just wearing like $400,000 worth of watches on with his, you know, his G-Wagon and his like, these dudes.
He doesn't get stood up no more.
Exactly.
So in his mind, he was like, would she have stood Drake up?
That's what she said.
He would say that in his head when he'd go to the gym.
And so because of that, that motivated him.
And now, you know, the dude is like, he's a huge baller.
And because of that.
So I think you guys understand that's a that jealousy motivation.
It's a sexual motivation that Napoleon Hill talks about at the end of Think and Grow Rich.
That thing, or in evolutionary psychology, and access to higher sexual selection and more resources, that or higher sexual status, those things are what motivate a man to become a billionaire.
That's what motivates a man to work really hard.
That's essentially what happens.
These great men, you think about Steve Jobs.
The dude was running through supermodels.
Think about Elon Musk.
How many different women does he have kids with?
You know, you think about these things.
Like, even Albert Einstein leaves his wife to go start sleeping with his cousin.
Like all this stuff happens.
You just don't realize these men are so motivated by this.
About, would she, it goes back to what Brandon said, and I loved it.
It was just like, dude, would she have said, would she have stood Drake up?
And the answer is no, then I need to be better.
All right, we have Ronnie here.
Thank you, man.
Hey, Brian, Ronnie, again, keep up the good work.
That Priya's accent is cute.
Even when annoyed LOL, Brian, we speak on DM.
I'm the one with over 600K followers.
Not that it matters.
Would really like to see a pod with Michael and Destiny.
Hey, Ronnie, thank you very much.
Can you bump your, just send an Instagram DM saying you're Ronnie C, just so I get like 100 DMs, a couple hundred DMs a week.
So it's pretty hard to keep on top of.
A pod with Michael and Destiny.
We were trying to actually get Destiny on tonight, but I guess some things came up.
He's going to be here on Thursday.
We just missed each other.
Me and Destiny were texting earlier today.
All right, let's get some other super chats here.
Okay, guys, get your super chats in.
We are going to try to, once we get through the super chats and get through a few other things, we are going to try to wrap up.
So get your super chats in.
Stiffler, really quick, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
Okay, we'll start with you.
Go ahead.
Yeah, rate your physical looks on the scale of one to 10.
So you can't be like, oh, my personality.
I'm a 10 out of 10.
They'd be calling me Alicia Keys on there, frankly, welfare Alicia Keys, but that's okay.
Can you sing?
Can you sing the fall in song here?
Just try the dude.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I don't honestly.
I would probably wrap it.
Holy fuck.
Okay.
So 10.
Thank you.
8 out of 10.
Okay.
6.5.
11.
I'm going to say what I said on the last podcast.
I'm a Buffalo 10.
What?
What is a Buffalo 10?
From Buffalo, New York.
I didn't think about it.
I didn't matter.
I agree.
I probably, I would agree.
What are you in?
What are you in Kazakhstan?
That's my answer.
No, you're like Stockholm Sweden.
I've never been there.
That's a different question.
What is she in Las Vegas?
That's a different question.
Seven with makeup, five without.
Well, I was going to ask you, like, which state are we talking about?
California, New York, just in general.
It's relative.
It's bullshit state stuff.
It's relative, though.
It's true.
It's just how you view yourself.
California, yeah.
Global.
Oh, globally.
Global.
Okay, globally, I'm like a six.
Okay.
Eight.
I would say a 6.57.
Oh, Michael?
Me?
Yeah, you.
Ask everybody.
I can read and shit, so I guess I'm a six or a seven.
Pokemons, I got a college degree from the university text that offers.
You can't use you think physical.
Just physical, as well as on looks.
I pay a lot of taxes.
Oh, my looks.
I don't know, man.
I'm a six, a five, yeah.
Okay, I give myself a six.
So you two are 10 and 11.
You're off the scale, I guess.
Oh, yeah, no.
Off the scale, off the charts.
What you know about it.
I would say your face is definitely a 10.
Thank you.
It's not cocky.
It's how you feel about it, bro.
It's like, you're saying how you feel about yourself.
I'm not everybody.
But that's actually not the question.
Standards of beauty, right?
There's an objective standard.
Yeah, but it's based off my mind judging based on my beauty.
When I look at myself, I see myself as a 10 out of 10 above a 10 out of a 10.
Correct.
But that wasn't the question.
I understand what you're saying.
You're saying how people view me?
Yeah.
Correct.
Okay, well.
We're talking about the whole world.
I'm not going to be everybody's type.
You know what I mean?
That's the whole point, though, is that even 10 out of 10s are not going to be everybody's type.
But there is an objective standard of beauty.
And of course, everyone is beautiful in their own right, but there is an objective standard of beauty, whether people want to admit it or not.
10 out of 10.
What do you think the standard is?
10 out of 10.
If we're speaking about like that, 10 out of 10, we're talking about a scale of 10.
So who would you say is a 10 out of 10?
10 out of 10 is perfect.
That's not what it meant.
I didn't know 10 meant perfect.
The question was to rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10.
10 out of 10 is 100% perfect.
There's not one person.
That's not what it said, though.
If we're women based on perfect, no one's perfect.
We're all imperfect.
So that's almost irrelevant.
Rate yourself one out of 10.
So it should be like a one out of eight then.
Yeah, I know.
Like, nobody's perfect.
Eight out of eight might.
I would still be 100%.
Well, no, there are studies about like the objective standard of beauty has to do with like symmetrical face, like facial features and stuff like that.
I'm not super well versed on the study, but they're actually cultural.
I am.
No, it's so here's the thing.
In the again, 37 culture study by Dr. David Buss, in all those cultures, men found that signs of symmetry, signs of youth, and then a certain hip-to-waist ratio, which was like 0.72.
Those were the things that they found more attractive in all cultures.
Women preferred men who were taller than them, and women preferred, were more interested in resource acquisition than men were.
Like 100% more, like two to one.
And then men were more interested in short-term sexual partners and had certain they found certain signs of beauty to be pretty much ubiquitous.
Wait, question for you two.
Do you guys think that all women should be tens?
Or should view themselves as tens?
Of course.
Women are ugly.
Are all men tens?
No.
Yo, my God.
If they feel they are, then they should feel that way.
But you think all men are tens.
Rate them.
Number two based on feeling.
Rate them.
So, okay, I completely understand where you guys are coming from.
Of course, it comes from a level of confidence that you see yourself as a 10, and everyone should be confident in how they look and how they present themselves, of course.
But confidence is not they will like me.
Confidence is I will be okay even if they don't like me.
Yeah, oh, absolutely.
So of course you have to accept the fact that you're not going to be everybody's type, but you also have to accept.
You're a subtype.
And not where you fall.
Exactly.
And that's great, but it's not a bad or negative thing to understand where you realistically fall on set scale.
But who?
Like, right, I guess you should have asked, like, from the other side.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get a worldwide talking about the standard of life.
Like, if I get rid of it, I'm going to still say what I said.
Like, I'm still going to consider myself at that level.
Like, if you guys consider yourselves fives, fours, six, that's you.
Like, that's you.
That's how you feed yourself because that's how you perceive other people's perspective.
I'm not personally not from like ours.
Yeah, my physical look.
I'm not going to rate anybody.
I look good without makeup.
I'm decent.
Can I ask a question?
So, as far as intelligence, you could easily say with her chat.
It was like covering my body.
I was like, what?
It's weird.
So, in terms of intelligence, you wouldn't rate yourself a 10 out of 10 in intelligence, right?
10 out of 10 intelligence.
Well, like, they okay.
I have great energy.
I'm a 10.
Not the energy.
It's fine.
Yeah, there's real energy.
My chakras are open.
I'm a 10.
If you're rating yourself a 10 out of 10 in intelligence, that doesn't necessarily mean you are actually a 10 out of 10.
This is all.
We're talking about looks.
We're talking about.
You gotta say comparatively.
Looks can like you can say.
Wait, is okay.
Question for the panel.
Is Lizzo a 10?
No.
No.
But she feels like a little bit of a drink.
Whoa, she feels like she's a 10.
Whoa, whoa, don't back down now.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't say no.
Okay, so Lizzo's a 10.
Into the mic, please.
If she feels she's a 10, that's how she's.
She feels she's a 10.
He asks, how do we feel about ourselves?
Awesome.
Is Lizzo a 10?
Lizzo's a 10, man.
Lizzo's a 10.
You know what's so crazy?
We can't do that.
He can't just say.
You guys are all 10.
No, we can't.
Heads across the board.
He can't just say, hey, you know what?
I have more subs than Mr. Beast.
You should come on my fucking show.
He can't do that.
I can't just say, hey, you know what?
That Bugatti over there, that's mine.
Hold on, hold on.
Too much confidence can breathe.
Absolutely.
Truth.
Thank you, Bender the Offender.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Yeah, so like, I can't just go to the fucking Staples Center and be like, hey, I'm starting at Small Ford for the Lakers today.
I can't just say that because I feel like that.
As men, we are totally, every single moment of every day, we are judging our performance.
The world is constantly telling us no.
Who we can't date, what we can't lift, what athletic ability we don't have.
We're constantly, this idea.
But this, but this idea, like, this idea that I could just make up my own value is absurd.
I have X number of dollars in my bank account, X number of fucking subs on my YouTube channel.
These are defined.
My abilities are defined.
How much I can bench press is defined.
All the stuff we do, there is no way for us to just make up some fucking number in our head and say, I'm a 10 because I feel I have great energy.
It must be great to be able to do that because we can't do that.
Who said that?
Why not?
Why not?
Why is that so hard for y'all?
Just believe it.
No, I totally get what you're saying because there's an objective standard of beauty, and specifically in Western culture, that's like a Eurocentric standard of beauty.
And you either like Eurocentric.
I feel like we gotta go to the next question because I just want to say one last thing.
We're gonna be at Never NBA.
We said what we said.
Y'all said what you said.
Next question.
The last thing I want is miscommunication because I think when you guys said, how do you rate yourselves?
Yeah, they said it like, how do I reveal?
And now I'm like, how do you think other people rate you?
Not from other people's perspective.
One thing, I'll address that really quick.
Sorry.
Would any of you like to revise your answers?
I have some makeup.
I'm doing it.
I'll do it.
Anybody?
I mean, I'll take one because I need some, but I'm not going to lose that.
I'm going to sell it.
See what happens.
I'm really going to be able to do that.
So, wait, what were you saying?
What was your question?
I think I just keep hearing miscommunication because I think when you said, how do you guys rate yourselves?
Certain people here took it as, how do I rate myself?
Oh, but maybe you should have said, from other people's perspective.
I mean, that's a fair point.
Because that's what I just keep hearing.
That's a fair point.
However, like, how much money do you make?
If I say I make a billion dollars, I don't disagree.
It doesn't change the fact how much I actually make.
I'm just saying, like, To close the gap.
So, with the revised questions, should everyone re-answer the question?
No, we should go to the next question for sure.
This is a fundamental disagreement of whether or not beauty is objective or not.
I would never view myself as less than a 10.
Exactly.
Like, why would I do that?
Why?
Well, if I want to go box, I should not get into the ring with Tyson Fury.
Because there's an objective difference in his skill set and mine.
That is like, doesn't matter how I fucking feel about myself.
What's the point?
It does matter.
But all we do as men is perform, and then the world tells us they grade us on our performance.
That's it.
That's what I'm saying.
Absolutely.
But they also get great strength.
Two of you are going to say this.
And the thing is, you want to know something else?
The world is going to validate your point of view because there's going to be endless.
I want you to rate your girlfriend for me.
Rate your girlfriend.
My girlfriend is a 10.
Okay.
There you go.
Next question, bro.
But she is a 10.
Okay, let's go to the next question.
That answered everything we needed to know.
Oh, my gosh.
That's so funny.
That's not subjective.
Show a picture right now, and I'll tell you.
Yeah, I want to see it.
All right, hold on, guys.
Show a picture right now.
I'm so excited.
I think you know it's a 10 out of 10.
No, that's good, but like, that's what I'm saying.
Like, if you have a man, they're going to say you're a 10 out of 10.
Oh, yeah, no, I agree with you.
That's not this case, though.
No, I saw her in person.
All right, guys.
So we're going to, we do need to just time-wise, we need to get through some super chats.
So we have, and I apologize that we're getting to some of these much, much later on the show.
Yo, JJ, Mercy Buku, for the.
Why don't you guys figure that out after the show, okay?
Brian and Michael, from both of your perspectives, quiet.
Guys, guys, guys, quiet, please.
Yo, JJ, thank you, man.
Thank you for the Canadian 50.
From both of your perspectives, I'd like to know if this community and other like-minded podcasts commit a naturalistic fallacy in their thinking and ideology, namely that was, is natural, is intrinsically good.
Discuss.
He's trolling.
No, I mean, it makes it makes sense.
I don't think this is a type of podcast for that kind of question.
Well, like-minded, but comment commit a naturalistic fallacy in their thinking and ideology, namely that what is natural is intrinsically good.
Yeah, no, so this is a fundamental question.
Let's be brief on this.
Let's say fundamental question in evolutionary psychology.
What is intrinsic or what is heritable is what is what's good.
So you can make that argument: girls who sleep around are maybe naturally doing that.
No.
Or men that are sleeping around are doing it naturally, but we're not saying.
So again, this is it.
No, what he's saying is exactly like it's the Dr. Buss said this when he went on Joe Rogan.
Just because men are more likely, high-status men who have more options are more likely to cheat doesn't mean cheating good.
So therefore, natural is it is it natural for high-status men to have more sexual partners?
The answer is yes.
Does it make it good?
No, it does not make it intrinsically good.
There are so many, if you guys go on TikTok right now, there's so many videos where these women on TikTok are grilling me because I bring up this one stat.
83% of women who cheat in a marriage fall in love with their affair partner.
Oh, absolutely.
Right.
It's like 29% for men.
Because women don't cheat for sex.
Yeah, but hold on, but me saying that, they believe I've just justified men cheating because I say that it's worse.
Because it is what it is objectively worse on average when a woman cheats in a relationship than when a man cheats in a relationship for the relationship.
A man can cheat in a relationship and you can repair it.
If a woman cheats in a relationship, I'm sorry, it's extremely difficult to repair.
Now, you guys say that, but me saying that is a double standard and therefore I get grilled on TikTok because people hear what I said.
I did not say it was good.
I just read statistics.
So now you're arguing with math.
You're morally neutral, but it depends on who you are.
The point is, when I make that statement, then all of a sudden people are like, he's just justifying cheating.
No, I'm not, because you don't understand the difference between what is and what ought.
Evolutionary psychology, which by the way, all of this manosphere red pill stuff is based off of, evolutionary psychology is about what is, not what ought.
And so people don't understand the difference.
And that's what that question is basically asking.
Well, and there's also a difference between how men value sex and how women value, or at least ought to and biologically should be valuing sex.
Yeah.
I mean, for us, it's like a function of loyalty, too.
Like a woman.
Sure, absolutely.
And men can emotionally detach themselves from sex in a way that women are not able to.
What happened?
What?
There's nobody in the bathroom.
Hello?
Wait, what?
Okay, I don't know.
Okay.
Here, let's get through these chats.
Okay.
Hold on.
No, we already did this one.
Okay.
The Bag Dead one.
Can you read that one?
Hold on.
Brian Leinford, by the way.
What?
No, I was reading the John.
You got another contender.
I wouldn't shoot my shot.
Yo, Alvin.
My turn to shoot my shot.
I'm 35 years old living in Sacramento, financially stable.
He's Asian Filipino of height matters.
I'm 5'8, physically fit and traveling.
Not interested in commitment right now, though.
Oh, that sounds incredible.
You want me to get a zipole for you?
That sounds incredible.
Bro, get some of that Filipino wiener and no commitment necessary.
No commitment necessary.
What an incredible way.
Yes, let's do that.
Alvin Sam, shots fired.
Okay.
Yo, Alvin, thank you for the super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Are you down for Impriya?
Here we go.
We have a picture.
Yo, Keoni19, I'm 32, six foot, handsome, 215 pounds, great beard and tattoos.
I shave my head and make 40, 50K a year.
The dating pool of women here is impossible right now.
Wait, the dating pool of women here in bro, can you guys please spell check?
Hey guys, real quick, it's called Grammarly.
Put your thing in Grammarly.
I say this every podcast.
You're paying us money.
Make sure, like, you don't have to write it in YouTube.
Write it on a notepad, put it in Grammarly, copy and paste into YouTube, okay?
Grammarly has a free film.
Yeah, I have enough of an issue stuttering as well.
By the way, he goes, I'm from Libtard, USA.
Just, you know, move to somewhere else.
Move to San Diego.
Move to Scottsdale.
Move to Dallas.
Move to Tampa.
Move to a place where there's lots of attractive women.
Single for like eight years.
I'm an outspoken.
Okay, got it.
Is he asking for no, he's shooting a shot.
Oh, wait, no, he's a.
he's not even he's just saying conservative that might be white No, no, dude, dude, dude, dude.
You're not.
Being an outspoken conservative.
Move to Orange County, be an outspoken conservative.
They will be falling off you.
They'll be falling off you, bro.
Trust me.
They were doing the protests against the mask in Orange County during the middle of the pandemic.
Go to Orange County right now.
I promise you have no trouble meeting a beautiful woman.
There's that app for right-wingers.
Yeah, for sure.
Capture.
There's a new thing.
There's a new thing, however, where liberal women are having trouble meeting men.
So the liberal women are having to date conservative men.
Have you seen some new articles about this yet?
Because they value masculinity and they want protection and a provider, but they cannot find that in liberal men.
So now they're choosing conservative men, yes.
That is the definition of why I had to make serious changes in my life of who I was dating and who I was spending my time with.
There are actually a lot of reason.
Liberal men weren't a great deal or what?
They were sweet, compassionate, kind, and treated me beautifully, but masculinity wasn't there.
There are a lot of recent studies.
I started dating conservative men.
There are a lot of recent studies that are showing that men that are continuously physically fit tend to be more conservative as well as on the attraction scale in the scale of financial success.
Oh, by the way, the hip-to-waist ratio for women, the corollary was a 1.65 to 1 shoulder to waist ratio in men, and women report having more orgasms with men who have broader shoulders.
Broader shoulders in comparison to their waist.
There you go.
I'll show you all these things.
Hold on.
Come on.
Okay.
All right.
We have Conan here.
Hey, man, thank you.
Appreciate it.
I guess.
Yeah, move.
He's a giga chat.
Moves a giga chat.
All right.
Dual shot.
Thank you, man.
Do you think a man should secure, provide for a woman after he has achieved his goals, i.e. financial security, home, et cetera?
Women would rather wait at the finish line instead of going on a journey with a man than expecting a fulfilling life at the end.
Wouldn't postmodern feminism be it to disprove his statement right there?
Like women are saying that they want to get out of the man's grasp, right?
They want their own lives.
They want to be independent.
They want to.
Well, I think those women, you're correct.
But I will tell you, as being 45 and then being pretty successful, my dating pool has expanded 50x.
So I will tell you they are waiting.
They definitely are waiting.
And if you talk to other guys in my position, they're going to tell you the same thing.
Well, they're not going to be in there waiting.
It's crazy to me how many girls that I knew 10 years ago, and then now that I have a little bit of clout, they're like, I've always had a crush on you.
Like, no, the fuck, you didn't.
You didn't have a crush on me.
You fucked my friends.
I'm not stupid.
You didn't give a, you wouldn't have pissed on me on when I was on fire when I was 30 years.
When I was a 30-year-old captain in the Air Force, you didn't care about me at all.
Now, all of a sudden, they do.
And that's just one thing that I've noticed.
So, no, they are waiting.
Rich Cooper is correct.
A lot of women, like, they try to, like, they just want to be there at the end of the day, and they want everything.
They expect everything, but you weren't even on the journey with this man to get to that.
Rich Cooper's quote is, women do not care about the struggle.
They wait at the finish line and they fuck the winners.
And I have, I will tell you from my, it's just my personal anecdotal experience, that is exactly what I see.
That is exactly what I see.
Girls do not care about how I made the money.
They don't care about how I became successful.
And they don't care about all the reps that I did, the reps and sets I did to be able to bench press all this.
All they care about is the results.
I've noticed that in younger women more than anything else.
For sure, for sure.
And I also noticed that the men that are in my cohort are dating younger women because of this because they want less drama.
It's not about the entitlement.
It's just like they just want less drama from the women that they're dating.
And these women have fewer traumatic experiences.
Right, but they're shown to not be like good lifelong partners statistically.
When they're younger?
Yeah, when they're younger.
Oh, statistically speaking, like, that is true.
Like, it's, like, women that are, like, 18 to...
Yeah, I mean, I think 18's too young.
It's like 18 to 21 or something is like, that's like one of the things that have the highest divorce rates.
Well, can I ask you a question?
Can I ask why you chose to date someone younger than me?
I didn't choose.
So when I was there, I just, she was, like, when I met her, I was like, I want to date you.
I just knew that.
I had no idea.
I had no clue how old she was.
And she had a procedure because she had a lump and she had to have a double mastectomy.
And so she got breast implants.
So if you saw her from the outside, it's very hard for you to believe that this girl's 21.
Because generally you don't see that until later in life.
And so I thought she was older.
And then we got to know each other.
And then she's like, yeah, I can't even go with you to a bar because I'm not 21.
So would your preference be like older?
My preference would be her.
To be honest with you, if I was in a relationship with her, I'd be single.
I was very, very happy being single.
So that would not be it.
And that's the issue.
My life was complete before I met her.
And it's really awesome now.
And if things don't work out, my life will still be complete.
Which is how it should be.
She should just be adding to your life.
She does.
She needs to benefit you.
She helps with the business, which is very, very important.
And she understands my boundaries.
So if women are born with inherent value because of their looks or so, so when you talk about physical attraction from the opposite sex, yes, because I don't want to misuse this.
If a woman is a cardiologist and saves your child's life through heart surgery, she has incredible intrinsic value that has nothing to do with her physical attractiveness.
I want to make sure that we understand that.
Okay, that's right.
Because this gets way misconstrued.
What a man does that makes him attractive, what a man does that makes him popular.
So like say Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers makes a lot of money and he's the quarterback for the Jets, and he's physically attractive because he makes a lot of money and he's the quarterback for the Jets.
They're the same thing.
Madame Curie may have been very attractive to her husband.
Martin donated $100.
Google these simphs.
Priya, I don't chase women as I'm not hurting for options, but I am a woman.
I love Simp.
You won't be receiving a DM from me.
But if you want to get in touch with me, email my charity.
Contact at martinfdn.org.
It's not a simple money.
Go to Sim.
I got a better idea.
Hey, do you want to come to Babies in Toyland on Thursday?
We're doing a charity.
No, it's not with me.
Like, my girlfriend's coming.
Do you want to come?
It's like 300 girls come and we're raising money for charity on Thursday.
Where is it?
It's going to be in Avalon in Los Angeles.
Sure.
Sound good?
Okay, cool.
There you go.
See how easy that was, guys?
See, there you go.
Beautiful.
All right.
Okay.
We got Sask Finest here.
Stop simping.
You guys are disappointing as men.
They have Instagram.
Shoot your shot there.
I'm here to support the channel.
That's it.
Okay.
Thank you for the Canadian Christian appreciation.
Where's the Baghdad one?
I saw the Baghdad one.
Was it a Super Chat?
I don't know.
It's a week.
We're chatting for 50 bucks.
We have a lot to get through.
Let's see.
We have.
What a simp.
R Gentinian 500.
Thank you.
To Brian in chat.
What do you think about plastic surgery on a girl?
To Brian in chat.
What do you think about plastic surgery on a girl?
Honestly, I'm not, I don't like women with plastic surgery.
So fake lips, fake tits, lipo, BBL, labia plasty.
Not a fan.
Not a fan.
But lips are plastic surgery than aesthetics.
I definitely have to.
That's what I do for a living.
I do medical aesthetics.
Lips are not plastic surgery.
I do Botox and white.
Yeah, semantic to him is the same.
I will tell you, because we, because unfairly or not, because so much pressure is put on a woman for her physical attractiveness, good plastic surgery is very, like, again, like, shout out to Chris Corsandi in Las Vegas.
Like, good, excellent plastic surgery.
We're talking like $25,000 boob jobs, like incredible.
That stuff.
I don't blame women for getting that.
I absolutely don't.
You can't even tell that it's plastic surgery.
I blame them.
I blame them.
I was going to say, like, what if you can't tell, Brian?
Brian, the thing is, if a woman is being judged on her physical attractiveness and she gets something done where you can't tell that it's plastic surgery and she looks better, I can tell.
Would you not?
I can tell.
I can show you some rhinoplasties you would not be able to tell.
Oh, rhinoplasty.
Okay, that's.
I thought you were talking about implanting.
No, no, no, no.
Obviously, we could tell.
Especially.
What was your question?
What was your question?
Oh, I don't know.
No, you had a question for me.
No, no, no.
It was just the thing we were just talking about.
Oh, yeah.
As far as plastic surgery goes, I mean, I'll touch on it really quick.
I mean, basically, like, guys, guys, please, guys, please.
Okay.
Please, if one person is talking, I mean, it's been pretty much a shit show this entire night.
Whoever's talking, please just be quiet.
Let them speak.
Okay.
So, just let me address this plastic surgery thing really quick.
I would prefer, for example, some women have small breasts.
They want to get fake tits.
Even if a girl was flat before, so she had super small breasts, I would prefer that over some big fake titties.
Same with lipo.
I'd prefer a girl who had a little bit of belly fat over the lipo belly.
What else?
BBL.
I'd prefer a girl with like an average butt or like no butt versus a BBL.
What else?
Lips.
I'd prefer a girl who had a small upper lip than if she had Botox.
Or what the fuck do they?
I don't know.
What else?
They put collagen in.
I'd prefer that.
I'd prefer a girl with giant fucking labia over a girl with labia place.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think you just need a giant labia though.
No, brother.
Brother, you don't know the show, man.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan of large labia, Michael.
All right, we've been that many times.
I have.
I'm with you.
I'm with you on all that.
I'm with you on all that except the breast implants.
Breast implants are incredible.
Other than that, I don't care.
Is it better?
I have a non-profit.
Was it your non-profit Big Labia's Matter?
Big labia net or BLM?
Yeah.
That's personal.
That was a funny mask.
That's super personal.
Big labiomatic ladies.
I think that's funny as hell.
That's my non-profit.
I am an advocate for women.
Small dick matters.
Look, I'll wrap up on this thing.
I mean, you mentioned the small dick thing.
I think, listen, women can have preferences when it comes to a man's size down there.
I happen to have a preference too, huh?
Oh, you didn't know that men could have preferences when it came to pussies?
That's right.
That's right.
My DMs are open if you have a fucking large labia.
It's still real.
All right.
Okay, let's get these super chats out the way.
Thank you there for the large biggest in the DMs.
My DMs are open if you have a large labia.
Seriously, BD underscore islands.
Okay.
Conan 19, Foxy Cleopatra.
Do you date white guys?
Who's that?
Is that you?
That would be me.
Do you date white guys?
I used to.
Used to.
I haven't.
Wow.
What happened?
I was in a relationship, so I was in a relationship.
She waited four months and it was horrible.
No, he wasn't white.
Oh, I visited a white guy back in COVID-19, way back when.
Well, we did some crazy shit during COVID, didn't we?
We're dating some fucking loonies back.
COVID relationship doesn't matter, right?
COVID bodies don't count.
Is that what we're doing?
COVID bodies don't count.
I'm down.
I'm down.
Petition to start that.
Just a reminder, though, Conan, he's asking if you're single here, or he's asking if you date white guys.
He is the guy who said he's 32, six feet, handsome, 215 pounds, great beard, tattoos.
He shapes his head and he makes 40 to 50K a year.
What do you think?
You down?
You down for him?
Six feet, handsome?
215 pounds?
I'll sleep on it.
All right, sleep on it.
Okay, there we go.
I'd sleep on it.
All right, Bender the Offender.
Hey, thank you, man.
Question for the whole panel.
Do you think that mothers in the U.S. society are more self-centered or less concerned with their child's future than 50 years ago?
Absolutely.
100% yes.
Yes.
Yeah, I disagree.
Yes.
I mean, you shouldn't have kids if you're.
I'm going to say no just because it's an evolutionary design.
I think what they're doing, though, may hurt their children's future because they're seeing things short term as far as long term.
But as far as the actual emotion, I bet they're exactly.
Because a woman willing to die for her child is an evolutionary adaptation that doesn't just go away.
Martin donated $100.
Thank you, Martin.
You're frightening Priya.
You're too hoped up on energy drinks.
My charity helped dogs and horses, not hoes.
Priya, your new nickname is Prius.
I hate that nickname.
You're small, quiet, and semi-economically sound.
I hate Prius.
You might from a distance.
What the fuck?
I hate Tai Pius.
I have a girlfriend.
I asked her to come to my charity event.
Yeah, he's not scaring me.
I love cars.
Priuses are a garbage piece of trash vehicle.
I'm super excited to make, to have, to interview Priya on the red carpet and then send it right to you, buddy.
That was so exciting.
Hey, you want to help us with this hoes charity?
We're going to charity for lessons.
Dan and Martin, they're all saying Priya and shit.
Wait, really quick question on the Prius thing.
Who here would date a guy who has a Prius?
Like, is that an issue?
I didn't pay attention to the car, I mean the car.
Is that like, kind of a, some girls have like this, some girls.
Some people would be better at Tesla.
Oh, that's true.
I love Larry David and Larry David.
In this show, he's always driving a Prius, so I have a thing for that.
Okay, you like Larry David?
That's good.
That's good.
Old white men.
Just him.
Just him.
All right, Puffy Vegas.
I've changed my IG.
Can the girls rate it now?
Wait.
Puffy, the trigger for Instagram rating, let me just double check it.
It is via Streamlabs only.
I guess you don't have...
Let me see.
Bro, it's, it's, did you read the description?
Hello?
I've changed my IG.
can the girls write it now from the black girl in the bikini ending with the girls in the polka shirt the black girl with oh this is the rating He's rating everybody.
Can you like point me rate it?
7.5.
6, 7, 7, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7.5.
Wait, what was that?
I think he's talking about, I'm confused.
All right, that's the rating.
Now judge me.
Puffy, you got to do it.
Bro, do you sell crack?
Like, what are you doing?
You say tricking off all this money like this.
I can't even see him.
There's like five people in his picture.
First off, Puffy, you didn't even link your IG, but Puffy, yeah.
It's going to be Puffy Vegas.
That's going to be his IG.
I've said.
He didn't hit the.
He didn't hit the threshold, though, for us to do a rating of his IG.
He said $3,100 super chats.
It is.
What do you think?
Did we do it?
Oh, do you have it pulled up?
That's me.
I'm the one who should be rating your IG, by the way, buddy.
Well, while we wait on that, okay, let me get through the rest.
Azul69, hey, good to see you back in the chat, man.
Michael, by the way, Azul, did you send me a DM on Instagram?
Send me a DM on Instagram.
Michael, I was in Baghdad when you was still in the middle.
Hey, Pimp, when you were in Baghdad during the first war, I was 14 years old, so got that one wrong.
Keep going.
Oh, shit.
Okay, would you accept a mission to destroy your uranium enrichment plan?
Not in Iraq, because they didn't have any fucking uranium.
I don't know if you were aware of what happened over the last 20 years.
You might want to catch up.
Keep going.
Oh, this is the plot for Top Gun 2.
Okay, look at it longer than this game.
I just realized.
So fifth gen Sukhoi 57 aircraft.
There are no flying Sukhoi 57s.
Once you look it up, they're supposedly stealth.
They don't fucking work.
And number two, yeah, that's basically the plot for Top Gun 2.
I just realized that.
That's what he's doing there.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah, there is no uranium enrichment plan in Iraq in 1990.
Wait, questions.
So I fought the second one, an 03.
Why were you two arguing, or was it you?
What?
Why were you guys arguing at the beginning of the show?
I'm trying to remember.
Oh, yeah, the domestic violence thing.
Domestic is so extreme.
I wouldn't call it domestic.
No.
No, we wouldn't call it violence, but it's definitely domestic.
Kelly, what were you saying?
Does it matter?
You were upset about that.
We're bringing it back up.
Oh, my God.
Oh, I was just saying that, because I thought she said she was a relationship coach or like a relationship coach.
I never called myself a coach or a guru.
I never said that I was like perfect at this point.
I think I said you give advice.
Yeah.
So I was just saying that.
I was just like, me personally, I wouldn't take advice from someone who wasn't in a relationship if I was trying to get a relationship in.
But I've had successful relationships and I'm taking a break right now.
That doesn't mean I'm in coaching.
Maybe you've had successful relationships.
Because if you had successful relationships, you'd been one way out.
That's not true at all.
You can have successful relationships and where you learn about yourself and where you become a relationship.
But I kind of feel like that thing, like every therapist has all their shit together.
Every doctor is 100% healthy to just devil's advocate.
Yeah, for me, like the reason why I'm not a relationship coach, but the reason why my clients keep coming to me, I have 600 clients now.
The reason why they keep coming to me is because other clients have success and they take pictures and they show success and then they have more success and then they have more success.
That's the reason why.
The only thing, so if I was in a relationship or not in a relationship or that, that doesn't matter.
The only thing that matters is the results of my clients, which my clients get tons of.
So I agree with that.
All right, we have Puffy Vegas here, Axis Vegas.
I have 54 million views on my YouTube channel.
I would like to meet her.
I'll take you out to dinner.
We have a couple drinks and you can teach me how to be better.
Okay, I'm super confused here.
Okay, Axis Vegas is me.
I have 54 million on my YouTube channel, Puffy.
I don't know if we can look that up if he actually has 54 million.
I'll look it up right now.
Like to meet her.
We don't know who her is.
That's a pronoun that we can't figure out who that is.
Take you out to dinner, have a couple drinks so you can teach me how to be better.
And we don't know what better means.
Bro, you're little.
You were dropping cheese, man.
For real.
Hit me up on fucking Instagram and let me help you, dog.
This is crazy.
What are you doing?
I think he's so he's addressing you initially.
Then he says, I would like to meet her, which is maybe like in a platonic way.
He wants to take you and your girlfriend out to dinner to socialize.
I want you back to the bottom.
Okay, here we go.
All right, we have here.
I'm going to continue.
Ransom G, hey, thank you, man.
Jens, when Giga Chad status is reached, you get real shots at Priyas.
Tonight's proof.
So build discipline and genuine burning desire will come.
24.
Aspiring F football coach and physical therapist here.
Have discipline because she ain't choosing you yet.
I don't even know.
All right.
We have what, yo, Brian, you should take you should take on a date the girl next to you.
You look nice together.
Okay.
All right.
She doesn't like flannels, so that's a wrap.
You just can't wear it on a date, Brian.
Non-negotiable.
Non-negotiable.
I thought horse girls were eternal.
Kellyanne.
I'm sorry.
No, it's all good.
Hey, thank you for coming, Kelly.
Appreciate it.
Get home safe.
Bye.
Everybody say bye to Kelly Ann.
All of you are invited Thursday if you guys want to come to my charity.
Okay.
You guys have Los Angeles.
It's a red carpet charity.
We got Getty Photographers Day.
You're all welcome to come.
What is it for?
This one is for troops overseas, the Douglas Jay Green Foundation.
He was lost in Iraq, and his family set up a foundation so we could send care packages to troops that are currently deployed.
We actually assemble the care packages instead of we already, I think they sent like 1.4 million care packages already.
Oh, wait, I had something for Kelly, but fuck.
You just asked me.
I'll just pretend to be.
You're going to pretend to be a petite Vietnamese one.
That's right.
Brian, I thought horse girls were a no-go for you.
So I'm out anyways.
That is true.
Horse girls, definitely a red flag, major red flag.
Wait, fuck.
Sorry, I lost my just leave it.
Just leave it.
Don't worry about it.
Okay, hold on.
Sorry, my fucking notes thing closed out here.
So.
Sorry, guys.
Okay, here it is.
So we were Mal Pal.
I was dating a guy and left him for his best friend who had better qualities.
He's my current partner.
What happened there?
So I had met this guy through Tinder.
I normally don't do dating apps, but it was a low point.
And I just wanted to meet somebody.
And I went out with him for about a month.
It was going to end up a long distance, so I left the relationship because I was like, it's not worth a long distance.
And then I pursued his friend after because I had seen he had qualities that I liked.
Okay.
And that's who you were in that.
At least she broke up with a dude.
Okay.
Qualities would be the same paying salary.
Good guy.
Okay, and then you said gender expectations and paying for dates.
I believe in absolute equality.
So you think like 50-50 on a first date?
Okay.
Unless I'm overly impressed or they're overly impressed.
I don't mind suggestions.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll go around the table.
Who should pay on the first date?
Eat him.
Whoever got the bread?
The man.
Who asked me out?
Who asked who out?
If you asked me, have you ever asked a guy out on the date?
Yeah, for sure.
Did you pay for me?
Who was in that situation?
I did.
You pay for the whole thing or you split.
I mean, I was like, yo, do you want to go grab something to eat?
My treat.
You want to go grab something to eat?
Like my treat?
Yeah, I'll pay for it.
I have my own money.
Yeah, I've done that before.
I want to ask you out and make you pay for it.
Did you make this guy wait?
Did I?
It was so long ago.
Oh, it wasn't the first date.
It wasn't the first date.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about you?
What about you?
Wait, sorry.
Can you hear me?
Who should pay on the first date?
Oh, I'm impartial.
It doesn't matter.
But every guy that I've been on a date with has paid.
Okay.
I'm also quite impartial.
Okay.
All right.
I always offer.
You offer.
That's a fake offer.
That's wrong.
That's not.
That's crazy.
Wait, question.
So let's.
How much do you mean to say?
Yo, that's wrong.
So let's say you and me are on a date, right?
And whatever, the fucking checkcoms, you do roleplay.
How do you do the fake reach?
Oh, okay.
I'm kind of excited.
I will take out an offer, but I'm praying that he'll pay.
And I'll even do a second time.
Are you sure?
Like, no, like, I'm sincere.
Okay, so.
Yeah, you're going to get laid for sure doing that.
You're manipulating these men into sleeping with you.
No, I don't mind paying.
I just think the first initial payment, whether it's an ice cream, anything, the first initial thing, I think it's just a polite thing.
Okay, so you do the token gesture.
Let's say, though, that you, because you said, I guess you hope that they don't accept.
So let's say a guy takes you, actually takes you up on your token gesture of paying.
What's your reaction?
Oh, of course, I'll be nice to their face, but if I wouldn't be interested in them long term.
Even if otherwise the date went well and.
It's happened to me before.
I dated a guy and he was really cute.
We hit it off.
And then when the bill came, I offered him some cash and he took it and he was like counting dimes and it just turned me off because it just shows me okay.
Disregard the dime counting, but let's just say it was a smooth transition where you made the token offer.
He accepts said token offer.
There's no like weird.
It wouldn't be a deal breaker, but I would hope in the long run it wouldn't come to bite me in the ass because usually it shows me that they might be a little bit cheap or have different values.
Not cheap, but different values.
I'm like a really generous person, so.
Are you?
Yeah.
Even though your offers of the best.
Don't you think that's a bit arbitrary?
I don't know.
I just think it's a sign of respect.
After that, I don't mind.
Is it arbitrary?
Good question.
Why would you expect the man to have like respect for you when he doesn't really know you or anything like that?
Oh, it's just like if even with a friend, if you're inviting them out, you know, a family member, anyone, you expect actually, well, I mean, it depends the context, but I mean, if I go get food with a friend.
We pay for it.
Yeah, I keep know what I mean.
You're not.
Hold on, what do you mean?
If I go out with my friend, you want to go grab something, we usually pay for our own meal unless it's just together.
Yes.
But if I'm inviting a friend out, like I just mean in general, I think it's just a nice thing to do for someone, and especially in a dating situation.
But wouldn't you be.
But that would be a nice thing for you to do then to pay for it as well.
Yeah, but I guess it's a little bit traditional.
Okay, but so just to be clear, so you make the offer, so you verbalize the offer.
You're like, oh, can I, how would you say it?
You sure you don't, or we can do half half, or I'll reach and be like, okay, oh, you'll reach for the purse.
Okay.
So let me ask you a question.
Do you think communication is important in a relationship?
Yes.
Okay.
Where are you going with that?
Well, you're quite, I mean, women often complain about men are not great communicators.
Men, you know, communication is so important.
But you doing this token thing is you quite literally.
She is generous, but her explanation of her thought process is the definition of avarice.
I think you should really know yourself and accept your own opinions, not lie yourself.
That's the only way to move forward and improve.
Smile, much love, brie.
Yo, Apostle Victor, hey, thank you, man.
Very much appreciated.
Thank you for the TTS.
So, you know, isn't it poor communication skills to say one thing, but mean the other?
In other words, to make an offer to pay, even though you would, that would be pretext for you to know if he took you up on said verbalization to take you up on the literal words that came out of your mouth.
That would be cause to either be negative brownie points or just a full on deal breaker.
Isn't that poor communication?
Yes, technically, but I think also it's a cultural thing.
It's the same way people, if you go to a guest house, oh, can I help you with anything?
Oh, can I help, you know, bring out some things?
I feel like sometimes it's just a polite way of doing something.
But if they take you up on the offer, are you looking down on them?
Like, do you have the right to be upset that they took you up on the offer?
I wouldn't ever be like upset, like angry.
I just eat a lot of people.
Well, you just said you wouldn't.
It's just not a match culturally, right?
Like, I don't want to be with someone that doesn't have the same thought process.
You're tricking him, though, because you're giving him the idea that you are someone who is willing to go 50-50.
You should be up front and say, hey, I want a man to pay for me.
It's entrapment.
I don't know, though.
Is that even, I don't know, isn't that kind of rude, though, to not reach for the wallet, just assume?
I don't think there's any problem with girls wanting men to pay for the first date.
So how should you go about it?
You should just tell them, hey, when we go on a first date, I expect a traditional man to pay for my first home.
I mean, you're going to get married.
Listen, if she was hot enough, I'd be like, okay, traditional, whatever the fuck is that?
I'd rather let it go downhill and let the guy be like, hey, you're going to pay half of this?
So I can be like, then he'd be like, oh, I'm going to pay half.
And then I'd be thinking about it.
So the point of the first date, actually, I actually like the way my boy Zarka said it.
He said, the point of the first date is to bring anxiety to zero.
And so if you're having a date with a girl and there's a question over who should pay, you should just pay so anxiety goes to zero.
That's always the way I've done it.
In fact, one of the things I've done is if there's a group of us, well, this is something I learned from Justin Waller.
He does this too.
We'll get up and we'll go find the waitress and we'll give her our credit card before the dinner's even halfway done.
So we'll try to pay for it.
So when the check comes, it's already been paid for.
And like we'll try to beat each other to go pay for it because that's what we do.
I have chosen traditional gender roles in my relationship.
If that's not what you want, if you want a polyamorous relationship or if you want a relationship where she's your sugar mama, then you can choose that as well.
In my relationship, I've chosen traditional gender roles where I pay for my girlfriend's stuff.
And if my girlfriend has a girlfriend, I'll probably pay for her stuff too.
Sure.
For me personally, I always go on first dates with the expectation and willingness to pay.
I'm never going to do something that theoretically would be out of my price range or anything like that.
I always go in with the mindset that I will probably pay, but it's obviously like with other romantic gestures, it's really nice if they do pay, but it's not necessarily expected.
Like in New York and where I live in New York, it's like one of the most expensive dates in the world.
So to expect a man to just cover a $250 date is a lot on the first date when he doesn't even know you and he's investing that into you, like not knowing where things are going to be.
That's a good spot.
That's why you got to talk to heavy hitters.
I mean, that's just New York.
I mean, you go to a nice dinner.
You go get street tacos.
That's true, but like a lot of the times like men will choose the place because they want to have the nice gesture.
They want to do something nice.
But I have a lot of men that talk to me and say like, how do I tell a girl?
Like when do I tell a girl that I want to go 50-50?
Because I can't do this anymore.
I'm breaking my pocket, like, but like, they want to put on that sort of facade.
Let me explain this because I have this for my client.
So, I, one of the things I teach in my program is how to get comps, like, how to show up with like 10 girls.
A big thing in Los Angeles, Miami, and Los Angeles, in Las Vegas, is if you have 10 girls or five girls with you, they just give you a comp bottle, they'll give you comp rooms, they'll give you comp dinner.
And the guys that I teach this a lot of times are like they're trying to do it every day so that they don't have to pay for dinner.
And I tell them to stop, bro.
If the problem is you're worried about taking a girl to dinner, then let's stop worrying about girls and worry about your fucking money for a while.
This is a problem.
So, what because what that means is you got money up to three, but you're but you, or you got girls up to a three, but money's at one, right now.
Girls are up at a seven, but money's at two.
No, money needs to catch up to girls or surpass girls.
Actually, the better thing is for it to surpass.
So, if money's at one and girl, your skill with women are like at a five, money needs to catch up.
Stop worrying about, like, oh, what do I say to this girl?
Let's chill on that for, let's learn, uh, let's learn a skill, let's become valuable, let's make more money first and not have to worry about that situation.
I'm not saying lead with money to get women, but if you take a woman on a date and you are tripping over the bill, let's make more money.
That's that's not like what about the average man that's like that.
That doesn't make the average salary, and like, you know, this is inevitably not going to be the top one percentage.
No one, it's not, no one has the privilege.
Not everyone has to live in Manhattan, right?
You understand?
But living in Manhattan, like then just don't live in Manhattan.
I don't live in Manhattan because I just think like I can afford it, but I think about all the time and money that is wasted on HOA fees and incredible, like, expensive Uber rides.
That's why I don't live in that city.
I live in Las Vegas with no state income tax.
It's still because it's my fucking money.
That's the reason why I do it.
No one has to live, no one made you live in Manhattan.
Leave Manhattan, move to Scottsdale.
The women are prettier and it's a lot less expensive.
Move to Orange County, move to Dallas, move to Tampa Bay, move to San Antonio, move to Austin, move to a place where there's beautiful women and it's not that expensive.
I would stay the fuck out of lower Manhattan.
There's no way I would live there.
I don't think men should pay for first dates.
Really?
Ooh, hot take, hot take.
So, have you ever been on a date with someone and not paid for it the first date personally?
I'd pay for my own.
Certainly.
So, you've been in a situation where you haven't paid for her first date.
Yes, I have been on dates where I've paid, but I've saved a lot of money.
Let me just say that.
So, to you, saving money is more important than how the date goes.
Well, look, listen, I would advise men that this strategy will, like, the best thing that you can do is despite the potential chance of you feeling like a sucker, if you want to min-max your success when it comes to women, you ought to pay for the first date.
However, for me, it's more a matter of principle.
Like, there's a whole bunch of things that you could, in theory, min-max to elevate your chances of sleeping with a woman, dating her, having a success, whatever.
But I think your integrity at some point, you know, you could fucking simp for a girl and get the pussy through simping, maybe.
Like, like that might work.
I don't recommend, I certainly don't recommend doing that.
I'm not doing that either.
Well, I certainly don't recommend doing it, but there's certainly like certain things that a guy could do in an effort to get pussy, which would either contravene his own value system or like put him in like a weak position.
And so, my whole thing is, I'll just finish this up.
My whole thing is that the way that a lot of people move nowadays, first off, you got foodie calls.
So, girls be going on dates with dudes just for fucking a dinner.
They're bored.
They don't have a genuine interest in the guy.
The second thing is, is people are dating multiple people at this point.
I mean, you are dating two guys or whatever the fuck.
Granted, it seems like you're being ethical about it and you're upfront.
So, that's that's fair.
So, however, there are women who are not ethical about the fact that they've got five, seven dudes that they're dating.
They're fucking three dudes.
They're fucking two dudes.
They're fucking one other dude.
The dating meta is so fucking, it's fucked up beyond all repair, foo bar.
And, you know, as a, for both men and women, you have to go into a situation with a new person.
You don't know them.
It could very well be the case that that guy you're going on a date with has three chicks.
He's fucking.
So you got to protect yourself.
And likewise, men, if you're going on a date with a girl, bro.
You guys might have some girlfriends you know move in like some fucking shady ways that are fucking that got five dudes, they're fucking.
They've got three dudes who are for food, a dude who's their uber in their phone, food in the.
So you don't pay for a first date all the time because of the possibility that they're talking to other people and stuff.
Pretty much because because you don't get boyfriend treatment until you're, until you're only talking to me, if you're talking to other guys, they can pay for your shit.
I'm not gonna pay.
So when someone's your girlfriend, you then take on the role of paying for if you're committed to me, then then I will fall into people.
So they're two colors.
When you don't give them what they want, if you, if you don't pay for everything, if you don't give them everything they want, people with interest are still gonna come around.
It might be an eyebrow raiser, but it would be like, all right, let me see where you're going with this big guy, because you know what I mean.
Wait, what I don't like, I don't mind, like I, like I said, when you have your own money, you're not like, oh, I need a guy to pay for me.
So it's like if you don't pay for the first date, i'm definitely gonna be like that was strange, but I like you, so let's see like we're gonna have a conversation.
Trust me, this shit, this shit loses me girls.
So like, maybe most of you guys don't, but like I, honestly i'm the type guy like like, for example, i'll intentionally like if, if there's something funny I could say on a date, i'm gonna say that shit, like and take the date.
Or apostle donated 100.
I have more to say on that relationship is usually trial and error.
You go to a date not with the expectation to find your life partner, just to test the waters.
Saving money, on the other hand, is part of a final goal.
You should act your best, but respect your principles on a date.
Yeah, so yo Victor Possible.
So the answer is, go to El Dorado, go to fucking Uh, like Arkansas, go to a barbecue place, like that's the thing.
What i'm saying.
Like don't go to Catch, don't go to Catch, don't go to fucking Mastros in Newport, that's the point.
Like there's other ways to do this, but like no i've, like I, I want traditional, I want something traditional for my girl, so I act traditional as a man, that's the thing.
Do you think men should pay on the first date, then on your.
They don't have to.
No no, let's see.
Let's make this very clear.
I I deal with what is and not what ought.
I talk about descriptions, not prescriptions.
He's right, if you want to min max, meaning the highest percentage of women you end up hooking up with, you should pay on the first date.
But I don't have any problem with Brian saying he doesn't want to because he has principles.
That says says otherwise.
I have just my dating life has been so good, like I really enjoy going on dates.
I really I love it.
I I have a lot of success on dates that for me, I don't ever see it as like me throwing away money and I always go on dates to play like, have you guys ever had the buttercake at Mastros?
Has anybody had the buttercake at Mastros?
Holy fucking shit.
It is so good, Good.
If you like Masters, go to Stake48.
Or the Apple Crumble they have at SDK.
It is so good.
I go to places where I'm super excited to go anyway.
And so that's the thing.
Or a lot of times my first date is to go axe throwing.
I like axe throwing.
It's just something I really, I'm really good at axe throwing.
So I'll go to something like that to where I would go to this thing even if she wasn't there.
There's a place called Area 15 in Vegas that I go to.
I go do things on my first date that I would have done anyway.
My biggest one is I love Dead Mouse on stage at Zook.
So I'm going to go on stage at Dead Mouse or Zook or go to see Steve Aoki over at Omnia.
To me, those dates cost zero because I get up on stage for free, but that's something I was going to do anyway.
Sometimes that's my first date.
And just to add to that, like I don't, I don't think anybody, like if as a guy, you want to pay for the first date, I don't think you're wrong.
Like this is just, this is just my personal approach to it.
You know, I've, I've definitely, luckily, I've been, I haven't been burned too bad, and I've never been the guy to like go fucking drop 200 bucks on the first date.
It's, I've always, even if I've paid, I'll keep it, you know, something a little more casual.
There's plenty of stuff that you can do on the first date that's either free or like very low cost.
In any case, though, I think it's more so just protecting myself because I don't like to feel like I'm a sucker.
And it's actually, it is a bit of a screening tool because there are girls in the same way that there are guys who, and I feel for women on this, there are guys who will sleep with you who will have zero intention of ever committing to you, but they're going to keep you around for pussy.
So in the same way.
And they'll pay for the date.
Yeah, they'll pay for the date.
In the same way that there are guys that do that, there are women that will string you along and keep securing attention, keep securing like free, you know, you'll take her to a concert.
You'll take her, you'll give her your attention.
You'll pay for her.
Maybe you even before, like, I mean, you said you wait three months, right?
To me, that's fucking look.
Good for you.
Good for you.
If you can, if you get guys that wait for three months, that's great.
Well, he is whipped.
Good job.
He is whipped.
There hasn't been a lot of people.
So, you know, there hasn't been a lot of people.
Right, right.
That's totally fine.
But I guess the point I'm trying to make is like a girl can, like, if she's a hustler, she can get a lot out of you in the three-month period of time.
And, like, I'm just cautious of not being caught up in a chick, being caught up with a chick that's a user, that's using me, who's a hustler who just wants a fucking free meal.
And I actually date you.
I think I have a pretty good eye for it, but you never fucking know because there's definitely some unassuming chicks, some shy women.
You'd never fucking think it, but they got rosters, they got dudes in their phone, uber, food.
Like, and they're never going to give it up.
So, my thing is, also, the other thing is, I wrote this down.
If a girl still is interested in me after I've done this, which I don't, I mean, I think society and a lot of people will view it as a social faux pas or a non-traditional thing as the guy to not pay.
It's actually a really good screening tool for the girls who are really fucking down for you and really like you.
And to be fair, it could be like maybe she leans a bit more progressive in the sense that she's okay with 50-50.
It could be that, but it could also be even if she is a traditional girl, it could be she's so fucking into you that, hey, she's so into you, she's okay with it.
She's gonna perhaps bend on her rule of the guy should pay for the first date.
So it's kind of a screening thing for low-interest women.
If that's a deal breaker for them, they're not that fucking into you.
Because if a woman's really fucking into you, she's not, she doesn't need romance.
Like, and that's a lot of the men that women sleep with, they didn't have to fucking take you on three dates.
They didn't have to do all this shit for you.
That kind of comes back to our conversation earlier about girls who slept with certain dudes really quick.
And then this guy comes along.
Oh, you got to take me on four dates and buy me shit.
And, you know, all this fucking stuff.
So, so, yeah.
Okay.
Sorry, we stayed on that for pretty long here.
Let's try to get through these soup chats.
We had Nathan here.
Hey, thank you, man.
120.
No question, but let's get some fucking airwings for Nathan.
Okay, whoops.
All right, Puffy Vegas.
All right, fine.
Let's fucking do him a solid.
We'll react to his Instagram really quick.
Puffy Vegas, thank you, man.
YouTubers have a max of 500 a day.
Have the girls, please, right on a scale of one to 10.
Bro, I think you're only at 400, brother.
What's up?
Am I at YouTubers?
Oh, no, he did 500.
Okay, all right.
We'll be nice.
We'll be nice.
He's been generous.
Yeah, pull up his IG.
But dudes who threw Streamlabs, buddy.
Dude through Streamlabs.
Yeah, you just gave $150 to YouTube, man.
Yeah, that's some math right there.
Okay, Puffy Vegas.
Okay.
What in the world is happening?
Okay.
I'll let you ladies go first and then I'm explaining to Puffy what he's doing wrong.
Pull that one up.
Wait.
Pull up the photo where he's with the two girls.
Let's pull up these photos.
No.
So right off the get, I'm confused at why you feel it necessary to have all these videos and photos with a bunch of random women on your phone.
Oh, no, yeah.
But see, the thing is, Puffy, do you see what they're saying?
Like, they can tell these are random women.
They can tell by your body language and the girl's body language that you don't know them.
Who are your friends?
Up, up, up.
This shit's going to get haram.
Up, up, Hold on.
Okay, click that one with a kiss.
No, no.
Four days ago.
No comments either.
I think he's a fucking giga chat.
He seems a bit more.
He's a fucking giga chat.
Puffy.
Puffy, man.
I'll give you access to my school server.
I have a team of guys that will rate your IG and literally help you fix it.
I promise you, 100, 100x better.
100x better.
You aren't showing compliance on your Instagram.
That's the problem.
Is that they don't, you look like a tourist with hot girl, with some girls that don't know you.
That's what you look like.
And that's the reason why you're not getting any engagement.
Because I saw Puffy's YouTube.
He's real talking.
He's 54 million views.
Why is this not translating to Instagram?
It's because you're not speaking the right language on Instagram.
You're speaking the YouTube language on YouTube.
On Instagram, you're trying to speak the YouTube language, and it's not working.
Or actually, you're trying to speak like a DHV pickup language.
That shit is that's 2005, bro.
That shit is over.
So, like, bro, just hit me up for free.
I promise you, we'll score your whole IG.
We'll have you fixed up in like literally like a week.
I have a question for what's his name?
Puffy Dave?
Puffy Vegas.
Puffy Vegas.
What's his name?
Puffy, you know, I live in Vegas, bro.
I promise.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Mike's in Vegas.
Yeah, bro.
Dude, we're doing an immersion, like an immersion thing for probably the price you paid for all these super chats.
Bro, we'll give you, we'll take 30 photos of you where you look fucking baller.
Forget all this shit.
You need professional photos.
No more of this blurry shit with bad lighting and girls where you got your arms wrapped around them.
That is bad game, bro.
I promise you we'll fix that shit in two seconds.
Yeah, and women can spot like the disingenuous disingenuine photos on your Instagram.
Yeah.
Just be normal.
Be natural.
Puffy, do you like dudes?
Yeah, Puffy.
Girls should always be showing.
If you want to do things like that, they should show you compliance and you should not be showing them so much compliance.
That's a big issue.
What?
Am I the only one at the table that thinks he's a 10?
Am I?
I think he's.
He spent $500.
He's a Giga Chad.
Like Luke's?
What?
Luke?
Yeah, he's a fucking chad.
What do you guys think?
He'd rate himself 10.
Do you guys just not see what I see?
Okay, all right.
I'm glad that you're in the middle of the day.
All right, hold on.
Okay, John Dubai.
Thank you, man.
Correct logic of Healthy Man.
One, woman is 10 only if she wants you.
Two, if 10 doesn't want you, she's zero.
You take her seven from the camera.
Okay, social proof gets you 10 later than when 10 is good girl.
Three, men is always better than woman.
Is this way?
In this way.
Coherently.
Coherentness.
Man, I think that was a translation from a different language.
Your conjugation was kind of weird there, man.
Grammarly, one more time.
Grammarly.
You can use it for free.
Woman is 10.
Only she's a 10 only if she wants you.
10.
Yeah, so if a woman doesn't want you, she's just a bad person.
That's like a riddle.
I don't know if I'm not sure.
You know what, though?
What I don't like about like what, and John, think first off, Dubai.
Maybe he's from Dubai.
Thank you for your donation here.
It's in his name.
I don't like when dudes are like hitting up chicks and like interested in a chick, but if the girl, even if the girl like politely turns them down, the dudes are like, well, you were fucking ugly anyways.
That's fucking lame.
That's so fucking lame.
Bro, if the girl doesn't like it, just fucking move on.
Both men and women need to learn how to do it.
Oh, I thought he was being like wholesome and saying like, if she doesn't like you, then she's not a 10 anyways.
Yeah, he's trying to say, like, if a girl doesn't like you.
Like, it's not worth it.
Yeah, it's like a girl, like, you know.
Yeah, that's how I read it.
Oh, hello, Victor.
Victor underscore apostle donated $100.
Woman is 10 only, 10.
Only she wants 3, then 7.
This is worse.
This is worse.
This is the next seven.
I know he's making fun of it.
That was good.
I like that.
Good job.
That was worth the $100.
That was a good $100.
Yo, Victor, thank you for the translation there, bro.
Thank you, Victor.
I appreciate that.
You've explained it all.
You've explained it all.
You have funnier super chatters than me, man.
You guys are funny.
Thank you, man.
Okay, we have some more notes here for, let's see, we had Rosanna, your ex-boyfriend started your car on fire on the highway.
On your 21st birthday, the car ended up engulfed in flames.
So we'll just quickly roll the story there.
That wasn't a therapy session, I thought.
Well, it was just like, how did it start on fire?
How did it happen?
Did you leave it on fire intentionally?
So we went like an hour away to have like wine before my birthday dinner, which was back in Buffalo.
And I said, we need to be done by X time.
So we have to make sure.
And, you know, we're drinking and then he didn't listen.
And then we were late.
And I was like, late to my own birthday.
So we decided to drive over 100 on the highway.
So don't let anyone else drive your car.
And it may have been a little late for an oil change.
I don't remember.
It was like, no, it was like a 99 prism or some shit.
Like, you know, you remember those cars?
Yeah.
It sounds like a lot of people at some point.
And we were on the highway.
And then these people on the highway were like sticking out of their like windows like, hey, hey.
And I'm like, maybe we should like, you know, see what they have to say.
And they're like, your car's on fire.
I'm like, shit, holy shit.
Like, all I could picture was like a movie and it spontaneously like blowing up.
You know, it's like extreme thinking, but I was like, pull over, pull over.
And it just went up in flames.
Wow.
And the fire department came.
Oh, so he didn't like it.
We thought it was like, well, he did.
Like, indirectly.
Is that how we thought it was?
Someone either didn't change the oil or the coolant and you drove over a hunt.
You redlined it to the point where I think we perceived it as something malicious.
No.
Probably had some kind of chronic revenge and displacement, which caused it.
It wasn't the best, but yeah, that's just one of the things.
Okay, I have three more things here, and then we're going to wrap up.
Really quick show of hands.
Do any of you object to men caring about body count?
Or in other words, if your body count, I suppose.
Show of hands if you object.
Not do you care about body count, but do you object?
Because some women say, well, my pass is none of your business.
What you do care?
That was in the past.
So do you object to men who care about your body count or a woman's body count?
Show of hands.
Anyone object to men caring about body count?
I used to.
You object?
You object?
I just like to share with people that I'd be seeing in the future with.
I don't like to share that type of personal information with people I don't see myself dating.
Okay.
Sure, that's understandable.
But if a potential partner did have an issue with your said body count.
That's fair.
Okay.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I think that was a question.
What about you?
I just don't think it's a big deal, I guess.
I know some men clearly think otherwise.
And also, as I've gotten older, that doesn't even come up in topic when dating anymore.
Seriously, even.
Not for me.
Do you think that having being with more people has changed you at all?
I haven't been with that many I don't think and that's why I feel like whether you're with you know one or a hundred like I don't know You don't think being with 100 would change you?
That's a lot.
I mean, even just chemically, you're going to get super attached.
I mean, when you intercourse with somebody, you're...
Sorry.
I'm just in my pocket.
That's...
You're exchanging energy and vibe.
Energy, exactly.
You have intercourse.
But you are, but you literally are.
You're engaging in quantum feels.
That's literally the closest you get as a body.
You think that's not going to change you a little bit?
Of course.
I just think it changes women more.
Change you how.
Give me some concrete.
Okay, so we'll say it like this.
Just imagine that there's some sort of that there is, but a neurochemical that allows you to bond with somebody, with a partner.
Does it make sense?
Oxytocin?
Okay, so it's called oxytocin.
So let's just say what happens is over time, each new partner you have, your ability to have that oxytocin release, which allows you to bond, decreases every time.
Every time you use it.
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Thank you, Grant.
The lady talking about the driving was harder to follow than a squirrel through a forest during nut season.
It was harder to follow than a Turkish soap opera when you don't speak the language.
Hashtag jokes for $100.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah, thank you, man.
Yeah, everybody understood me, but didn't understand your previous thing.
So get it, get it.
I think he was just trying to throw jokes.
My husband throws jokes.
Yeah, anyway, so neurologically, it just gets to the point like you take a sticker, I take it off the wall, then I put the sticker back on, I take it off, I take it by the fourth or fifth time, the sticker's barely sticking on the wall.
That's the kind of thing.
And the thing is, when I say that, and I say it's not the same for men, God, that's such a double standard.
But it is a double standard.
There are studies that show that, right?
Yeah, for sure.
There's studies that show that.
The thing is, before I understood evolutionary psychology, before I started reading Dr. Buss, by the way, I recommend all of Dr. David Buss's books if you guys want to learn all the stuff I was talking about today.
One of the things you'll find is that there is an evolutionary double standard.
I kept meeting back when I used to be a DJ at a strip club and I used to work at 6th Street in Austin.
I used to work in a bunch of bars down there.
And I would meet these girls who were like young, super pretty, working on their master's degree, everything about them, 10 out of 10.
And their boyfriends always had a 20, 30, 400 body count.
Always.
And I just noticed that the men that they would go after, it was so asymmetrical.
They were looking for masculinity in their boyfriends, and their boyfriends were looking for femininity in them.
And so those things were two different.
It's like, well, if I have a body count, then she should have a high body count.
If that's what you want to believe, then that's fine.
But the math doesn't show that.
And the very fact that I say that is so offensive to so many people, but unfortunately, that is what the science says, or that's what the statistics state.
Yeah, I mean, oxytocin is inhibited by testosterone, and vasopressin essentially makes men like kind of get up right.
Oh, sorry.
Vasopressin essentially makes men like, it's one of the reasons why they like they get up right after sex.
Like women bond and they want to stay.
Like they're looking to stay.
And men, it's just not the same neurochemically.
But there are men who women that just don't have like the oxytocin network like that works in that way.
So it really, it really does depend woman to woman, but overall, that is like the truth scientifically.
Okay, so really quick, I'm going to try to blast through this here.
Okay, so a couple of you had some comments on body count.
I'm just curious, like, what's your body count?
I don't know.
I'm not keeping track.
Plus or minus 10?
Under 10 more than 10?
I don't know.
I literally don't know.
I don't keep track.
We're not sure.
Yeah, I'm not either.
Bueller.
Plus 10.
Plus 10?
Okay.
Plus 20?
No.
No.
Oh, okay.
Excuse me.
Between 10 and 20.
Okay.
Four.
29.
Okay.
So because I go to church and I'm in mass, I view intimacy as like kissing, oral, and if you don't want to say, you don't have to.
No, I want to say that.
He's asking about vaginal intercourse.
He's asking about vaginal intercourse.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I include people in my body count that I've kissed.
So penetrative sex, 11 people.
11 people.
Mike, what about you?
Man, we ain't going here.
I'm a man of God.
I'm a man of God.
Priya?
Come on, I just said it.
Out of respect for myself and my future partner.
That's not something I'm going to disclose on the internet.
Okay, fair enough.
All right, we've got the body count.
Brian, how many do you have?
Respect for a lot of people.
Well, like Mike.
Boo.
Like Mike, I'm also a man of God.
I do not know what I'm saying.
So y'all are virgins?
Y'all are virgins?
Yes, I'm a man.
Hey, I'm curious.
What number is too high for your partner?
What number is too high for your partner?
You found out you're having a conversation.
You're like, God damn, that's too high.
I just don't care about body count.
Like, if we're doing something and it's us now, then the past is your past.
Usually women don't care as much, but I'm just curious.
Is there a number that's too high?
Like 300?
Like, triple digits kind of gets icky, but it's like, if you're the quality person, you're quite easy.
He's really good and bad.
He has no diseases, but he's in triple digits.
That's a problem.
I mean, it's not a problem, but I'm going to look at it differently.
You wouldn't break up with him, though.
It's not a deal breaker.
No, it's not a bill break.
Okay, what about you?
Triple digits, good and bad.
Not a deal breaker.
You don't care.
What about you?
It's a deal breaker.
So triple digits.
He's really good and bad, but no diseases, but that's too many.
That's too many people.
You like him, and then after the third time you had sex with him, then he tells you he's at like 200.
Maybe, I'm like, Dan, you fucked over triple digits girls like this?
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
I don't feel special anymore.
You don't feel special.
Okay, got it.
Okay.
What do you think?
Sorry.
I get that's not a deal breaker, but I wouldn't prefer it because like I said earlier, I like them to be more selective or conscientious.
For sure.
What do you think?
Undermine.
Huh?
Undermine.
You want it to be under yours.
You want it to be the number to be.
Okay, got it.
Okay, go ahead.
I've never heard that before.
Go, what do you think?
Yeah, I don't know.
Have you said 100?
I mean, he's in Manhattan.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, 100.
100 is like your first year there, right?
Yeah, right now.
I really don't ask guys their body count.
I just prefer not to know.
Cool.
What do you think?
I don't particularly think that anybody that holds the values that I would seek out in a partner would have a triple digit body count, but it's not a question I would ask and really concern myself over.
Interesting.
Again, that goes back to the Dr. Buss 37 culture study.
Women were always less concerned about a man's body count than the other way around.
What about you, Mike?
What's the limit for?
Well, whatever my girlfriend is at.
It's so romantic.
There you go.
Well, that's just men care about a woman's past and women care about a man's past.
There you go.
That's what it is.
There you go.
That's just there at you.
She is definitely pair-bodied.
Let's just say that.
She's very excited every time I come home.
Let me ask a question.
Mike, would you, you know, would you prefer a girl who's a virgin?
Man, so here's the only thing I'm going to say about that.
So I know a lot of guys supposedly would say yes.
For me, the issue is if you're 21 and you haven't been with anyone, I think that's such an unusual thing.
I don't know, man.
Prefer, I guess in a vacuum the answer is yes, but most likely no.
Because I've had sex with girls that were virgins and it is pretty traumatic.
What about in comparison to somebody that had a relatively high body count?
Yeah, of course I would prefer it to a high body count.
But like the thing is like when I'm in my 20s, listen, maybe one like this for you.
Maybe one like this for the rest of y'all.
But when I was in my 20s and I was going to UT Austin and then I was working at a nightclub, I didn't care about a woman's body count because I didn't want to be in a relationship.
I just wanted to have sex with lots of attractive women.
I had a point in my life.
Remember, I'm 45 years old.
So 20 years ago, I was looking to have sex with women, and I did not care about their body count, what their religious preferences were, whether or not they were Democrat or Republican.
If they were attractive and they wanted to have sex with me, I wanted to have sex with them.
Now, some guys out there may not admit that you went through that phase too, but that was the phase I went through.
And when I went through that phase, if 100 women had said yes to me, I would have said yes back because that was the phase I was going through.
It's a whole phase.
Now it's different.
Yeah, whole phase.
It was a whole phase.
But the thing is, now it's very different because I find less than 1% of women attractive because physical beauty doesn't mean as much when you host every bikini competition and you used to go to the Playboy Mansion.
It just doesn't mean that much to me anymore.
So for me, it's a little bit different.
Like, again, sometimes with Kylie and I, we're looking for girls to go talk to, and none of them are hot enough for us.
That's an issue that we have sometimes.
So I will tell you, it's just like I said, it's a very different standard.
It's a very different standard for men.
I just want to describe what is hot for you guys for us.
We have to both be attracted.
She has a slightly different look she's into than me.
But, you know, I'm trying to think of an example.
I like my girlfriend.
Like, girls who look like my girlfriend, I'm kind of into.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I have a question for you.
And you sort of mentioned this when it came to the Joan the Hill thing: that a guy can't handle a girl showing off her body.
That's insecure.
Do you think it's insecure if a man prefers a woman with a low body count?
Or, for example, wants to date a girl who's a virgin?
I know.
No, I don't think it's that.
Okay.
Do you think it's something else?
It was more, I guess, when I wrote that, it was more towards the Jonah Hill thing with not wanting his girl being shown in a bikini.
Okay.
So it's more like that.
Yeah, we don't have to touch too much back on the Joan the Hill thing.
Oh, hey.
Yo, Victor, thank you.
My wife was a virgin when I met her.
She was 20.
We're together for 15 years now and have a beautiful family.
She was a smart, good-looking girl, didn't have any red flags or weird things about herself.
Didn't matter that she was a virgin, but wasn't weird.
There you go.
Green flag not being weird.
Nope, no problem with that.
Yeah.
And Mike, you were saying how, like, yeah, if she's a bit older and she's still a virgin, maybe that's a bit.
I just think, again, I'm not saying it's weird, but like you had, I'm not going to, it's so mean for me to say this, but you had a girl on here last time I was on there and she was like, yeah, I'm a virgin.
And I'm like, she was very clearly autistic.
And I was like, okay, that's why you're a virgin.
Like, it's, you know what I'm talking about.
Shots fired.
Yeah.
I mean, she's like very, like, she just, she was very clear that she was on the spectrum.
And I was like, okay, I can see why that girl's a virgin.
And that's the only thing I'm saying.
I think it, I don't know.
I mean, she claims.
That girl was absolutely on the spectrum.
There's no, I'm not sure.
Well, it's, but I mean, I think what was more interesting, I mean, she does OF.
Yeah.
And I was like, I mean, I would be concerned if someone's taking advantage of her.
Like, that's kind of crazy.
Okay.
Well, wait.
Oh, should we pull that back up, that thing?
Actually, really quick, pull up that thing because it's semi-related, the video of that chick.
The Protocol one or the new one?
Or the next one?
The Brett Cooper one, I don't know if it's...
I think we watched most of it.
Just pull it back up.
This is where we stopped.
You can go back to.
Yeah, just pull it up really quick.
Okay, so this girl, she's 23, and she says she hasn't even had a first kiss.
So obviously she hasn't had sex.
So she's a virgin, 23-year-old virgin.
But, okay, so, and then go to the next one really quick, though.
Next one.
You got to click over.
Did?
Here, F11, man.
You got the beat.
Keep it in F11.
Oh, this is her reacting to it because there are a bunch of fucking news articles about it.
Actually, it's the next one over one more.
Man, that's crazy, bro.
Nobody's humiliating this girl.
Wait.
She just, bro.
Yeah, so that's nah, bro.
She's not being humiliated for being a 23-year-old.
Nobody's humiliating.
That's not really the thing I wanted to talk about, though.
So she did another TikTok where TikTok, where it's like, me just waiting for a nice boy to come along to date.
I have impossibly high, unrealistic standards, and I'm expecting an epic fairy tale room.
In two years, she's going to realize she's a lesbian.
That's what's happening here, bro.
Like, it's just kind of obvious.
Like, this is ridiculous.
You guys, I was telling you, I had a friend like this.
She was gorgeous, like 10 on 10, like, not even exaggerating.
Everyone objectively thought she was beautiful at fault.
And she just loved the attention also of not wanting, like, not letting any guy kiss her.
I think she was a little bit more for a year.
And we would ask her, like, why don't you just kiss, you know, whoever, like, you like him?
And she's like, no, no, no, I want my kiss to be like under the snow.
Then, you know, it starts to build up.
Now it can't just be any kiss.
Now you've waited till 23.
Now it has to be special with the right guy.
Blah, blah, blah.
And she would lead guys on all the time and then be like, nope, can't have me.
Nope.
So she kind of enjoyed it.
Yeah, it's a kiss now.
Yeah, it's years later.
Yeah.
It's kind of like he cheated on her.
Oh, I just guessed.
I just guessed.
Of course he did.
Because her expectations were unrealistic.
And she, instead of, she either found a top-tier man who's going to cheat or she found a guy who's really good at fucking running game.
And then that's what she gets.
That's what ends up happening.
Yep.
Yeah.
She's got to be in the middle somewhere.
But it is interesting.
Like, I guess in the original TikTok that she put, I'm trying to remember the exact clip.
We watched it on the Brett Cooper channel.
She's like, oh, yeah, I'm 23.
I've never had a kiss, blah, blah, blah.
But like, and look, she's a cute girl, whatever.
But she's whinging about, or not whinging, but she's fairy tale.
She's saying, like, yeah, she wants this fairy tale romance and she has like ridiculous fucking standards.
And like, she's kind of an average-looking girl.
Like, so it's like, what do you fucking expect?
If she wanted to go out and get a date, she absolutely could.
Yeah, that's the thing.
She could totally get a guy that is maybe not to her, you know, theoretically unrealistic standards, but that would be on the same playing field level appropriate for her to be going out with.
And she could get kissed.
I think at that point it was more so like a choice by her.
I feel like if she's really terrible looking.
No, not at all.
She could absolutely get a date, no problem.
But yeah, I mean, it's totally fine if people are doing that of their own free will.
But to sit here and be like, oh, boo-hoo, I haven't gotten my first kiss.
I'm 23.
Kind of ridiculous.
Like Rapon's waiting for her king to come get her.
Well, she's posting it because she wants someone to kiss her.
You know what I mean?
She wouldn't be posting it if you didn't want someone to come.
I think she just wanted to get away from the pressure.
Here's actually the crazy thing.
Here's actually the crazy thing: I don't time-wise.
Okay, let's just play the video.
Pull up the one where she's like reacting to the news articles because there's a bunch of news articles.
I don't know why this went viral, but it's a personal preference or religious reasons.
That's totally like totally with it.
That's her reason.
But to sit here and just kind of be like, as if no one's good enough, I guess, for her.
Yeah, but also you have to be realistic with your standards at some point.
I asked you to skip over one, so it's the one between the YouTube video and then the last one.
I would ask you.
Also, my first kiss was horrible.
Like, there was nothing fireworks about this.
Yeah, this one.
I'm saying that this is not what it was meant to be.
The video was supposed to be funny.
Yes, it's entirely true.
I've never had a first kiss.
I've never been on a date.
I did not lie about it, but I thought it was funny.
I was poking fun at myself.
Skip to like the 55 seconds, Mark.
I Wait.
Fucking TikTok is so fucking dumb dog shit.
Mine was actually good.
And I knew I was good.
Okay, I think it's a good idea.
We both had braces and my shit was fucked up.
It's not loading.
Just pause it.
I'll tell you what she says.
So, okay, she says, blah, blah, blah.
There's some stuff.
And then she starts complaining because she posted this thing.
There's some news articles.
She starts whinging that and this is kind of a totally different thread, but she complains that there were guys, she wanted men to stop DMing her, saying, oh, I'll be your first kiss.
And she's calling them creepy and stuff because they were DMing her, being flirtatious, being like, oh, I'll be your first kiss.
Welcome to your menu.
And like, that is such a privileged position.
Like, if a dude was online, 23-year-old man posting, I've never kissed a girl, I've never been on a date.
You think any thousands of women will be like, I will be your first kiss?
So it's such a privileged position.
And this is actually, like, a lot of women will say, why don't men approach anymore?
Why don't men, and I mean, there's a lot of reasons why social media dating apps, et cetera, men don't really have an incentive to approach in person because they can get girls online or at least have the illusion of the possibility of getting girls online.
But often women complain, why don't men ever approach me in person anymore?
I wish, well, it's precisely because a lot of women will, if the guy is not like, if he doesn't approach you in precisely the perfect way that you would like to be approached, he's going to get labeled as a creep.
Case in point, this 23-year-old girl who's had zero dating experience, has never had the first kiss, is putting these men on blast publicly that they're creepy simply just by DMing her saying, I will be your first kiss, which based off of the video she released is flirtatious.
Now, is the first opening line?
Hey, I'll fucking make out with you.
Maybe that's not the best, you know, first opening line.
But in any case, like she is rebuffing, rejecting these men publicly online.
And it's interesting to me that a lot of women complain that men aren't approaching anymore.
Yet here you have a woman who's never even had a first kiss, publicly humiliating these men who are she's not like naming them, but like that's.
That's one of the big reasons why men are no longer approaching women is because they don't want to be labeled as a creep or, even worse, have some sort of you know, false accusation whatever, especially especially if, like guys are in school, like bro.
There's a lot of shit going on in the uh with title IX and shit.
That's no good.
But um, I never had a kiss.
I was trying to segment that into something related, but that slipped my mind really quick.
I want to come back to your thing, paying for the first date.
So just a point of clarification.
You want the guy to pay for the first date correct, the first transaction, the first transaction, first date.
Would you consider that to be a traditional gender role?
For for a guy to pay for the first date?
Yes, okay.
So you want a traditional guy?
No oh wait, what do you say?
So you want a?
You want a traditional gesture, Gesture.
Yes.
I want a traditional U.S. You want a poly?
What do you mean you don't want them traditional?
I went from traditional to the polygons.
You know, well, because then it's like, oh, well, then I, you know, I want to be able to do my job.
I want to be able to post bikini pics.
That would be not traditional, you know?
So I guess where I'm going with that is, do you consider yourself a traditional woman?
No.
Do you?
Okay.
That's fair though.
You did admit that you don't necessarily want a traditional guy, but you do want, at least in this specific scenario, a guy to adhere to his traditional gender role in the first instance of paying for the first date.
So are there any, maybe you're not a traditional woman, but are there any initial ways in which you adhere to your traditional gender roles, even if limited?
Of course, of course, even with my ex, I would cook, I would clean, I would do the domestic stuff.
think some stuff is just natural right what even if you sure but but so you But you do want that upfront traditional treatment from men.
But, I mean, you do, please clarify.
It's not clear to me.
You do OnlyFans?
Yes.
Do you post full nude?
No.
You post what?
Panty hose or something?
What is that?
Tees, tease, lewds, I guess you would say, yeah.
Is that traditional?
no so why do you demand a guy adhere to his traditional gender role but on the front on the front end but when he's first met you you have your I think it's more like a I don't know if I call it traditional more like a cultural thing almost I don't is it but isn't it isn't wouldn't can't you make the argument that culturally men are not thrilled about dating women who are posting
Can you please specify precisely what you have like lingerie, you post lingerie for these or?
I do pantyhose content.
Do you sell your pantyhose?
I have.
That's pretty non-traditional.
No, I agree.
I'm not traditional.
I'm very like free-spirited.
And I hope like whoever my partner is, and they have been in the past, they've been free-spirited too.
Just in this one instance, and in some instances, I think it's the polite and respectful thing to do.
You don't want to try a little poly?
No?
I would say why I'm bugging you But wouldn't it be the polite and respectful thing to do when getting into a new relationship with a man to not have your semi-nude photographs online and have sent dudes who you don't even know your pantyhose?
Yeah, I guess, no, I agree with you, but it's not black and white.
You know what I mean?
Like, we can't just put into a box either your traditional or non-traditional.
You need to find someone with the same values as you.
And in this case, those traditional restaurant things and cultural things like that, that to me is important.
And then other, you know, sexual things like, you know, showing a bit of skin on the line, that's not as big of a deal as me.
Him having multiple partners, that's not as big of a deal as it.
Oh, so you be polygynous.
You just want to be polyamorous?
I don't know.
No, what is polygynous?
Oh, multiple women.
Yeah, I'm not.
But it's closed on your end.
Yeah, no, just a traditional monogamous for a relationship.
That's a good question.
Like, do you guys prefer monogamous or polyamorous?
Because in this time, now it's like, okay, totally fine if you have, like, do you guys prefer to be monogamous?
I was just in a polygamous relationship, is that what you say?
Closed on one end.
Polygyny.
Polygyny.
So, yeah, closed on my end, but open on his.
Polygynous, yeah.
And I was really okay with it, like 100% okay with it.
But at the end of it, things ended because like of my past and he just couldn't get over it, essentially.
So I had to take the L on that one.
And you didn't take an L.
No, I did.
I did take an L.
I did.
I did.
Because, yeah.
Sweet.
By the way, Mike, Rolo texted me, and this was when we were talking about like the girls who will make one guy wait and then make previous guys not wait.
So this is from Rolo Tomasi, the rational male.
Women break rules for alpha males and make rules for beta males.
So you'll make the...
Can you repeat that?
repeat that rules for alphas and break rules for betas okay so we touched they make rules for betas and break rules for alphas Oh, 1,000 rules.
Make rules for betas and break rules for alphas.
And the later testimony.
So, but I guess going back to what you were saying before, you had said that you were not quite as bothered with him having other sexual partners or him seeing other women as well.
Sorry, I think I misspoke.
I meant like him having a lot of sexual partners in the past.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
That's why I said pollution.
Yeah, that's why I got him.
Sorry, I said.
Sorry, my bad.
Nick, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
And then we have two more things, and then we're going to wrap.
And then, all right, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
Drop us a follow, drop us a Prime sub if you have one.
Twitch.tv slash whatever.
Drop us a follow, drop us a Prime Sub.
Oh, shit.
We hit 1,000 subs.
Hey, thank you guys so much.
Really appreciate it, Clue.
Thank you for the Prime Minister.
Appreciate it.
Okay, cool.
So these are just notes that came up as you guys had mentioned them earlier on.
So some of you keep notes of the men that you've slept with.
I don't know if you said that you have like a notepad, so it's on your phone.
It's a lock new.
Oh, just in the mic, please.
Oh, yeah.
Is it a Google spreadsheet with like different attributes?
No, it's like in my notes app.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it's a lot of paper.
So just choke.
Who has a notes app of all the dudes that you've fucked, I guess?
So that's why you don't commit those.
No, I've like journals about like my past relationships to compare.
Also, y'all don't want to rely on what red flags are words learn about myself, but that was like a one-time journal.
Can you just tilt the mic down towards you a little bit?
for your for your notes uh what like you don't have to get into details but like what what are the the different columns so you have like no it's just a list of names Name, but what?
Like dick size, age.
No, it's not a spreadsheet.
It's literally just their name.
Some people got special security.
It's got the little sort feature over the top.
The sorted feature by Dick Size.
It's got a cucumber emoji.
Google Sheets.
It's just the modern version of an ad post.
Right, exactly.
My to-do list.
Oh, it's a grocery list, but.
It's mine just names as well.
Just names.
I have like time.
Time.
4-10 a.m.
10-13.
I came to intercourse at Chili's.
No, no, no, no.
Like the times, like the amount of times.
Oh, man.
And then like what year.
I think it's really important to keep track of that kind of stuff in case wild stuff comes back later.
Oh, that's cool.
Oh, shoot.
All right.
Last thing here.
A couple of you mentioned icks.
So that we're going to talk.
The last thing we're going to talk about is x.
So and you see a couple of you seemed rather interested in that topic.
So do you have any icks?
What are some x?
Yeah.
First off, what is an ick?
What does that mean?
Yeah.
Automatic turnoff.
I feel like there's nothing right now about it.
Sure.
Just let me think about it.
Oh, okay.
come back to you any x can i say x You don't know what they are.
They hit you out of nowhere.
You're walking down with your boo and then you notice like I seen this one on TikTok.
His ear was flapping a little bit weird or waste.
I know.
It's like something that you didn't even know you didn't like until you saw it.
Or he wouldn't pick up the mail also.
That motherfucker.
I was saying the males fucked up.
Bad teeth, you know, like the bad breath with the bad teeth.
Usually, if you have bad teeth in the Bradbeth, I don't know.
I feel like that's kind of like stupidity.
That's not an ick.
An ick is like, ooh.
That is ooh.
An ick is like kiss me.
You smell like friggin' goat cheese.
I feel like having bad hygiene, that's almost a given.
Like, I don't think anybody likes, you know, maybe I'm trying to think of a dick.
It's like something that, like, in my opinion, like, you're seeing your, like, one, one girl said, like, I saw my man, like, get out of the pool and, like, he tripped.
And, like, that was a big ick.
I think it's like seeing a man, like, outside of his masculine or, like, do something like a little weird.
We know what's like, let's say we're at a restaurant and he's talking to the waitress, like, not in a respectful manner.
Like, just being like, hey, bring me my food.
That is an ick.
Like, because it's like, why are you talking to people disrespectfully?
You know, like, you know, that's just like icks are irrational.
No, the biggest, I feel like my biggest ick is like their mindset.
Like, you really think like that?
And it's just like, okay, there's nothing's going to change that.
No, I seen an ick where this girl, she was swimming with her boyfriend and then she put the GoPro under the pool and his legs were going like really dinky.
Like that's irredible.
Yeah, there you go.
That's definitely a good idea.
That's like an icky.
That's definitely a reason to end the marriage.
That's so crazy.
I feel like what is everyone's type?
Like we haven't, we didn't say like what your type was.
Like do you guys have a type?
Well, we'll do that.
That'll be our last thought.
Okay, fair.
Why don't we start with you?
Go ahead.
With the type?
Your type.
What's your type?
I don't want to be like, oh, I have a type.
But if we're talking about physically, I've noticed I'm attracted to like Latino men, not preferably, but my track record is like Mexican dudes that are like kind of gangster vibe.
Like, I think I like the very masculine, manly man.
Okay.
Shout out to him.
And I kind of like ugly guys.
Like, like a rough ass face.
You know, like, they look rough.
Wait, that's Englewood.
Your four-year situationship, didn't you say he was like loco?
He was from Stockton.
Oh, yeah.
So for sure, though, he sells meth.
No, no.
Oh, I thought that's all.
He wasn't a trapper or anything like that.
He got bodies and not the sexual kind.
No, no, no.
Not that.
You know.
Wait, was he a gangbanger?
No, he wasn't.
Like, I feel like every guy that grows up is a lot of people.
Hadden Vickerville?
No, no, no.
He was just like, you know, I feel like a lot of guys that grow up in the hood, when they were growing up and as kids, they kind of deal with like gang things because that's very prevalent in the hood.
But like out of high school, he wasn't like involved in that.
I mean, he had a little like Sureño tattoo, but, you know, it's like, whatever.
He had a what?
Sorreño means it's southern Mexican.
Half of the yard in California prison system is Sereños.
Yeah, there's Norteño, Sereni.
Yeah, I just, I didn't hear what you said.
They're the biggest one.
I don't think I like cholo kind of guys anymore because that's why we're like, you know, you had a bad experience or I just feel like sometimes with that like hyper like that very macho man, it's like who they're around, like they're friends.
You know what I mean?
The guys will act like who their friend group is.
And if they're always like going crazy and stuff, there's just like so many things happening.
I don't know.
Speaking of prison gangs.
There's also Paisas.
Yeah.
So Serenos.
So just so you can see it.
It's mostly your skin color.
Right.
Sereños, that's Southern California.
Typically people are of like Latin American descent, I believe.
Norteños, they're from northern.
And then Paisas, isn't that like theirs?
Paisas means like a rancho.
Like they own, like they're ranchers, like they're farmers.
I thought Paisas, that's like they're actually like from Mexico.
Like they were born in Mexico and they immigrated here.
Most of the time, yes, Paisa.
Or it could be someone that like they could be second generation, but their parents only speak Spanish and they're like, they could still be considered Paisa.
It's like rancho lifestyle, like being a farmer, you know, but definitely coming from Mexico and being here is Paisa.
And regular white people are just called woods.
And then there's also white people that.
No, they're called crackers.
I mean, okay.
Canceled.
Okay, so that's your type.
Is you like, I noticed, yeah, Latino men.
Have you ever dated a white guy?
I'm not.
No, just curious.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm not saying you are.
I'm not like.
No, I haven't, but my mom says to because they're just more chill.
You know, there's not like the lack of culture.
They're just like, yeah, whatever.
You know, but at this point, I am open to all ethnicities.
I just noticed I did tend to like Latino Mexican men or whatever.
Like, you know.
Okay.
All right.
Yep.
Okay, cool.
Based.
What's your type?
I be like brutal honesty, almost sometimes harsh.
And but as far as physical appearance, I've always liked puppy, puppy dog, brown eyes, brown hair.
I feel like there's so much you want to say.
Like, I feel like we got to get you back on the show because I know there's more.
Like, I know you have a ton of shit to say, but my number's open.
But aren't you?
You're in Minnesota, so it's hard to get you out here, yeah?
I'm an artist, so are you sticking around California or are you heading back?
What's up?
There's a reason to.
Oh.
Oh.
So do you date white guys?
No, just for the show.
Don't discriminate.
Let's make it fucking awkward in here.
Let's make it awkward.
Come on.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Let's make it awkward.
Wait, is your preference like, do you have a racial preference?
Like, your last boyfriend was.
I really don't have a preference.
Your last boyfriend was black.
Period.
What about before that?
I'm not Mexican.
Here, last seven men you've dated.
What race breakdown?
Go, quick.
Seven specifically.
In chronological order.
Go.
I did a couple white guys.
A couple white guys?
A couple black guys.
A couple white guys?
Two Mexican guys.
Okay.
All right.
That's a solid roster.
What's your type?
My type is blonde hair, blue eyes, pale, tall, and skinny.
Oh, MGK.
MGK.
MGK.
Yeah, he's a bit too tall and lanky, but isn't that literally what you just not like that?
I don't know how tall he is, but he's very young.
Okay.
Word.
What about you?
Tall dreadheads with tattoos.
Tall what with what?
Sorry.
Tall guys with locks.
With dreads, okay.
But like a, but like look hard, but like soft personality.
I know it's counterproductive, but I don't know.
You're blushing right now.
I'm just even thinking about it.
Yeah, he's right here.
He just walked in the door.
He's here right now.
She's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Is it just physical or just like anything?
Yeah, it could be physical personality traits.
So conscientiousness, you know, nice eyes, nice smile.
They have to be like care about their health and their physical appearance.
Creatives, like people who are creatives, they tend to be attracted to.
And people who text me back right away or answer my call or call me back right away.
Like I like that.
I don't understand why some girls don't like that.
Brian, you would call her back every time, right?
Wait, what?
You would call her back every time.
You would never like make her wait for a text.
Wait, just to clarify, you dislike it when a guy doesn't or I like it when they're responsive, when they just call me or they text me.
I mean, it has to be like the 0.01 second, but like.
You know, I'm a fucking terrible fucking.
You know, you're done.
I was flat in.
I'm like, am I still on a goddamn show?
What's about to happen here?
No, I'm a terrible textor.
Ask anybody.
And like intelligent.
Like we have to have like really deep, weird conversations that like it's not like small talk.
Word.
Yeah.
Wait, why are you just trying to set this up?
She's got a boyfriend.
She has a boyfriend.
Whatever podcast we do, whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, I don't step on toes.
I don't say that.
Ryan's down for whatever.
That's why it's called whatever.
Whatever.
Title drop.
I like gamers that are kind of low-key, so they're low-key powerful, but they don't have to boast about it.
Ambitious, and I guess looks-wise.
I normally lean towards guys that are six foot and taller, but I don't necessarily need that to be a preference.
Broad shoulders, normally dark and handsome.
Dark and handsome.
Tavia, my boyfriend's black.
But I don't have preference on race.
Your boyfriend Chibato.
I think we missed it.
That's my girl.
Two boyfriends.
That's your boyfriend.
That's me chomping on his leg.
Stop it.
He has some nice thighs, too.
I'm Puerto Rican.
I really just state white guys for the most part.
Word.
Shout out to Brooklyn.
Biggie Small is rolling over in his grave right now, looking at Brooklyn.
He's like, what happened, my bro?
I'm letting him talk about gentrifying.
What happened to my burrow?
That's the truth.
Didn't you write something to us about something about your Puerto Rican body?
What was that?
Oh, yeah, the guy.
I didn't say that.
The guy that I was on a date with that used his dead dad as like a reason to have me.
Okay, so in your notes, crazy story.
Always trying to get sympathy.
Well, his dad was a diplomat.
His dad was a diplomat who passed away.
He asked me out on a date.
I went and he was not like okay.
And like halfway into the date, he asked me how many kids I would be willing to have and whether or not I would be like, if I would do surrogacy or not.
And then, yeah.
And then at the end of it, he was like, you want to go back to my place?
And I was like, no, I think I'm just going to go home.
And he was like, but my dad died.
But my dad died.
And I was like, oh, I was like, you did not.
I literally just told him.
I was like, that is like the last thing you want to say to a girl if you want to get her back.
He was trying to make the Scoochie wet with peers.
I know he was trying to be like, so you're saying the sex was bad.
Don't even do that.
No, I didn't.
His dad died.
Can we get a one in the chat?
His dad.
I said if I fucked up that one in the chat if she should have just done this.
Listen, I wrote.
In all fairness, in all fairness, I wrote at the end of that that I respected his efforts.
I respected the fact that he was ballsy enough.
You know who else would have respected it?
His dad.
His dad.
All right, go ahead.
From Beyond the Grave.
But yeah, he used the dead parent card to try to get a lady.
Okay, so you like white dudes?
Do you also like men?
Do you like men in therapy, I'm guessing?
Well, yes, I like him white.
I like him white and nerdy.
And I like him a little bit older.
Yeah, pretty much.
I don't have like a certain body.
Do you like him pretty older?
Yeah, I mean, I like him a little older, yeah.
I like how you're 10, 15 years.
You're 26, right?
I'm 26, correct.
But I'm also dating someone who's 22, so.
Ooh, Cougar over here, okay.
I know, I feel like it.
I do.
For the first time, I do.
You guys.
You helping him with his essays on the weekend?
The reason why he's bad?
At church, Brian.
That means he's wild.
I'm not talking about his homies, by the way.
Wow.
Wow.
We got to put the camera on you.
If you hear her making noise, just immediately put the camera on her.
Well, I mean, Five hours later, but um okay cool.
Uh mike, what's your type?
Uh, I like really physical, physically.
I do like the Vegas type.
I do like boob jobs, girls who have like uh really tight bodies, and um, yeah, that's pretty much it.
I like long hair, green or blue eyes, but none of that's a deal breaker.
I don't care if they're blonde, I don't care if they're brunette, I just really like you know, I've been in Vegas for like the last uh 11 years, and the girls you see that work at the clubs there, the cocktail servers that have that $240,000 a year job, those girls are my type, like just fucking incredible bodies.
That's what I'm into.
Um, I'm like a man that's ambitious and devoted to his craft and his career, um, Christian, preferably.
Uh, yeah, definitely needs to take his health seriously and physical things.
What about taking Super Chat seriously?
Whatever because you got nine of them after you right now.
Oh my god, apparently, they have money too.
That's it, yeah.
I guess so.
All right, I'll get mine.
Uh, definitely not a deal breaker, but definitely prefer short women.
If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one, literally shoddy, but but I mean, jokes aside, uh, I'll date a girl who's taller than me, like six five.
I don't give a fuck, I'll date a tall girl.
But if I'm leaning in one direction, preference for like four foot eleven, four foot ten, even shorter, get me a dwarf, what's up?
That's cool.
I like, do short girls for sure.
Like, I'm just gonna go.
Not a midget, a little person.
Do you know a midget?
Do you know a midget?
I know.
I see little midgets.
Oh, shit.
Hold on.
I'm sorry.
I'm such a dwarf, dwarf, dwarf, dwarf.
Oh, my God.
I'm so tired.
CJ Miles.
CJ Miles is like 4'8.
CJ Miles, you should have one.
I'm sorry.
We're gonna get fucked up.
4'11, bro.
I think little person is considered 4'10, or is it 4'9?
I think 4'9's 10.
4'9.
I don't think that makes you a 4.
I think that you can apply for like handicap status at 410.
Have you been with someone important?
Sorry.
Somebody's gonna be.
No, go keep it.
Just go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Talk about the midgets.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead, guys.
You can't say that word.
Just go, No, I just forgot like something that's like really high up for me.
It's like funny.
Like, you have to be funny.
For example, I was having a stir-up panic attack getting here because the car rental place that I reserved a car at, I got there and they're like, we don't have any cars.
And I'm like, what do you mean you don't have any cars?
Like, I need to get from here to Santa Barbara.
So I called up my wife, and he like just, I was literally like having a panic attack and he just made me laugh and it made it better.
And then I moved to the house.
And then we were here, so that sucked.
But I got here.
We're here from Los Angeles.
Oh, wait.
How much is that?
A lot.
I was thinking about it tomorrow because I got to fly to LAX.
It's a two-hour from LAX to West Holland.
Well, just to let you know, I don't know if some of these girls might be driving.
I'm driving at home.
Okay, perfect.
We are driving to LA.
Lovely, lovely, lovely.
Okay, so I'll continue with my type.
So let's see what else.
Slight preference for dark hair.
Again, not deal breaker, slight preference, dark hair.
Slight preference, blue eyes.
Again, on the deal breaker.
Or light eyes.
I mean, green, whatever.
That's fine.
Her parents made her do at least three years of violin or cello.
Nice.
Yeah, that's kind of nice.
It's actually like it has to be strings.
It can't be like piano is kind of mid-tier.
So I literally said that earlier.
You said, like, when we went around saying, like, what makes us happy, I was like, playing piano.
Are you a virtuoso?
Are you good?
Yeah, I've been playing since I was eight.
Can you do Chopin?
Yeah.
Okay, let's talk after the show.
Period.
Let's see.
Oh, large labia.
What?
My d'Aangella, bro.
Wait, are you asking us if we have large labia?
Oh, I know.
ELM.
Are you serious?
Large labia men?
Like, how large?
The bigger, the better.
Or looking like that.
The largest labia you have seen.
Have you seen the number three on the Arby's menu?
That's what he's talking about right now.
For real.
Rose beats.
I don't eat at Arby's.
I eat healthy food.
Is there a reason?
Or like it's just what is the largest labia?
I'm being serious, Brian.
You ever seen the movie Alien?
Hand size right now.
Finger size width, like here, two inches, three inches.
How low did it go?
This is real talk.
And I know you know.
I know you know.
Yes.
Yes.
How long?
How big was the labia?
The biggest labia you've seen feeling between your teeth, just gnawing off.
How long?
Hold on, first off.
I know you know who she is.
First off, as a gentleman, I feel like it would be unbecoming of me to do like a head.
No, we do the same thing for dicks, so why can't you do it for labia?
Say it.
I don't measure the shit, but it's not a shit.
No, give me, give me, you know.
You know.
This girl's labia.
No, dead ass, like, just a rough estimate.
Hurrah!
Have y'all ever seen an alien?
You know, the thing that sits on your face and he's got the little shit.
He knows.
I know he knows.
I know you know who it is.
So just give us a little something now.
Give us a little something.
You can't see shit.
Tell you what.
Tell you what.
Why don't you tell me where you fall and then I can't?
I asked the question.
In a ratio.
In your Audi.
In your Audi.
In your Audi?
In your Audi.
For me, no.
What you got?
I can't.
You got to go on the OnlyFans.
There's also NIDI.
You got to go on the OnlyFia.
I said any.
I said any.
I'll say it.
I don't care.
You're Innie?
Yep.
Never mind.
Not interested.
Take your piano over there.
Oh, gosh.
Okay.
But you are.
I can't out my vagina.
You're shocked.
Wait, how tall are you?
How tall are you?
I'm five feet.
I'm back and forth.
Pretend there's a, you know.
Okay, a question for you.
Are you circumcised or uncircumcised?
Are you circumcised or uncircumcised?
Hold on.
You need to answer first, then I'll answer.
Yeah, you didn't answer the question.
I answered it.
Because I asked you how big her labia was, and you wouldn't give me that.
So I'm not going to give you that until you give me how big the labia was.
Yeah.
I did ask that question first, so you're telling me my question is not as valid as your question.
I asked you, then your, then the circumcision thing was in the middle of the day.
Who started this, Brian?
It was from rebuttal to my fucking thing with a.
Listen, my DMs are open.
DMs are open if you have a large labia.
Hit me up.
Wait, Brian, have you ever gotten pics?
Whoa.
No, that's not what I was going to ask.
I was going to just ask if you've gotten DMs.
Like, yes, I do.
Yeah, do you get pictures?
Prude.
I wasn't asking about pictures, but I have had.
Yeah, I've gotten some feelings wrong.
Oh, Jesus.
When I see one like that, I'm going to send one to you.
Yeah, please send any my way, man.
It's hard out here, you know, it's hard out.
No.
I think the problem that he's having is that it's not, right?
Wait, what?
Wait, what?
Is that.
Wait, I'm confused.
She said it's large out here.
My labia is.
Circumcise or uncircumcised?
Circumcise.
Okay.
Us Protestants do that.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
So that's why it's prostates.
Protestants.
Protestants.
Well, you're really fine.
Okay.
Wait, what?
Okay, what else?
Other preferences?
I like peace.
I don't like combative women.
I prefer, I consider myself a bit more introverted, so I prefer women who are a bit more on the introverted side, who are a bit more calm, relaxing.
I don't, like, there's some chicks who have like that crackhead fucking energy.
And to me, it's just fucking way too much.
I like calm, like mellow women.
If you're like super energetic, super intense, super, I don't like loud women.
Like some women talk really fucking loud.
So I prefer more like almost like kind of shy, nerdy type chicks.
ASMR mood.
I guess, sure, ASMR is cool, but women with soft voices is pleasant.
If a woman has like a really good voice, that'll like bump her up like one or two points.
If she's got like, I'm sure she's like, what's a good voice for you?
Like Mariven Lowe?
Like, oh, Brian's.
Again, shot if you read audiobooks for late Brian.
Come look at my roast beef.
Come look at my roast beef.
I find women who are like kind of more nerdy or shy or introverted.
They tend to have typically very big labias?
No, pleasant voices.
I prefer no makeup, little makeup.
I don't like plastic surgery.
I don't like anything fake.
That's the longest description.
I know, I know.
Wow, he was really in that.
Can I get kind of like that?
That's not picky, though.
Yeah, you're gonna be damned.
Yeah, just pleasant, low body count.
That's pretty much it.
That's a tame list.
Come on, guys.
Yeah, it is.
I just energy.
I'm not saying she's got to be a fucking 10 out of 10.
She's got to be a smokeshow model.
Just fucking have a large labia.
What's up?
I'll pay.
I'm going to pay on the best day to find someone for you.
Yeah, Mike, if you can be my, hey, you're never going to believe what I just saw.
What's her name?
Okay, I'm going to senator Brian.
Shit.
You want to go on a big podcast?
Just go meet Brian.
Let's set it up, dude.
The LM.
How do you fucking, you know, it'd be great if like that would be a socially appropriate question to ask a girl just point blank like, yo, what's your pussy look?
It's healing.
Are we talking about chop brisket?
Are we talking about roast beef?
We talking about batwings.
What are we talking about here?
Respect for that.
All of the above, dude.
All of the above.
All of the above.
I feel like you're so serious right now.
Dude, I'm so serious.
And I think, but here's the thing, right?
Like women who do have Audis, I know you might think I'm kind of being facetious or joking about this.
It is actually kind of like, like a lot of women do, like in the U.S. Hold on, in the United States, 10,000 women per year literally mutilate their own genitals.
It's called a labia place plasty, where they like will literally, if they have an Audi, they cut the lips off.
And I think that's like fucked up.
So ladies, I'll talk you out of that shit.
But like women will get shamed for that.
One, there's a myth that if they have like large labia, that means that they've been stretched out.
No, that's fucking bullshit.
That's not how anatomy works.
But women do get shamed for it.
And I'm against it because I'm also against men who get shamed if they are inadequate in that department.
Let's say men will get shamed if they have a small penis.
I don't think that's fair.
That's how men were born.
That's how women were born.
I don't think we should be shaming people for their natural anatomy, how they were born.
Men can't control the size of their dongs.
Women can't control the size of their hoo-ha.
Let's not shame women, you know?
Amen.
Let's not shape anybody for their hallelujah.
So uncircumcised it.
Word.
Labia check.
Anybody want to labia check?
I got the gripper.
Oh my gosh.
He said I had the gripper.
It's the glitter.
It's gorilla glue up in here.
I was like, I don't, my brain is like, who does that mean?
Yeah, if it's out, it's out.
You don't even know what you have.
Oh, you're so sweet.
Wait, what?
Me?
No.
I was like, wait, wait, I also was confused.
I was really confused at what she said.
She didn't get the gripper.
She was like, the reaper.
Okay.
Wait, what?
Big lips is the gripper.
Oh, I didn't know.
I thought it may.
You learn something.
Gripper, like, I don't know.
I don't know if I can.
I can get you into that.
I thought you meant the inside.
We will know where you're going.
Like, when it goes in, you can see it.
I mean, you ever have someone not been able to come out?
They're like, dude, I can't even pull out right now.
Anybody can be like that.
She said, I can't even be fit.
I can't even pull out right now.
Oh, my God, man.
You're talking about some child support vagina.
That's what that is.
I'm like, don't you fucking clone me, though.
Wasn't there some chick that went viral because she claimed she had gorilla grip pussy or some shit?
What?
We got to test that theory.
Probably not.
And we'll send Brian.
I don't know.
Like, you know what?
You know what, though, my question?
Like, bro, most pussies tight.
Like, it's pretty rare to like.
Have you guys been in loose pussy?
Like, is that actually?
I've experienced one or two girls, but like, it's pretty rare to have, like, most chicks have type pussies.
Well, it's like fluctuating.
It's like, I feel like it's more of an age thing than like a.
Have you been wet now?
Has lubrication, natural lubrication, been a thing?
Or have you noticed like dry pussy?
Like, some people will be like, that Mitch's pussy was dry.
I mean, we're talking about like a lot of cocaine and fucking stuff.
We're not talking about like SpongeBob on the table.
Maybe like fly it out dry.
like coke I need it Hydrate What the fuck?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yo, somebody hire this chick for some zombie noises.
That's the walking man of dead soundtrack.
Walking man of dead.
Oh, shit.
All right, cool.
Let's wrap it up.
All right.
On that note.
Gorilla Grips.
Last call.
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I think we're aiming for 3.30 p.m. Pacific.
Thursday, Destiny versus, I'll keep it a mystery.
Destiny versus Mystery Guest on a topic that is also a mystery.
Let's see here.
And then we'll be back to the dating talk next Sunday, 7 p.m. Pacific.
Did you have anything?
It sounded like you might have had some.
Yeah, so this week, if you guys are interested, I'm hosting a charity event in Los Angeles on Thursday.
It's Babes and Toy Land.
We do one every year for Animal Rescue.
We do one for troops overseas.
This one's going to be for troops overseas.
We do one for breast cancer awareness on October 15th.
And then we also do one for homeless children at the Midnight Mission.
So it's a bunch of influencers.
They come together and we raise several hundred thousand dollars for charity.
So if any ladies who are interested in coming to that or gentlemen interested in coming to that, message me.
Also, for any of you guys, what we're talking about, Puffy Vegas over there, if you guys want any, we have a free school server.
If you guys are interested, we fix people's Instagrams.
And we also have the first four steps of my course, Metal of Action, are also on our free school server.
Message me on Instagram at Michael Sartain, and I will definitely, I mean, we are the originators of any kind of social circle game.
Nobody's ever done it better than us.
If you guys want to come check us out, just go message me on Instagram.
Sweet, sweet, sweet.
Okay, cool.
And this isn't really for the viewers, but I think I mentioned it earlier on in the stream.
My downstairs neighbor is a fucking Karen and has been a fucking thorn in my side.
It's a long story.
Maybe I'll get into it in the future show.
In any case, she's been complaining for the five seconds at the end of the show when everybody gets out of the chairs.
She claims that we're moving a bunch of furniture around.
She's a fucking Karen.
Causing major issues with my landlord because she it I'll get into it at some future point.
So, and so if I can ask everybody as we're getting out of our chairs if we can do so slowly so the Karen downstairs doesn't freak the fuck out and so just quietly kind of scoop back and then quietly get out.
I know some of you are on heels so if you can if you can tread I know this is boring for the chat to hear if you can tread quietly and try not to stomp as you go.
All right guys, that's it.
We'll see you guys next time.
Good night guys and hope you guys have a good night.
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