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July 3, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #80

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I'll start it off.
Sure.
Hey, my name is Bella.
I go by Bellarama TV.
I'm from the state of Arizona.
I'm in my 20s, and my occupation is I'm a Twitch streamer.
When you say you're in your 20s, what's your actual age?
69.
What's your actual age, though?
Over the age of 21.
Okay.
Yes.
Why do you not want to reveal your actual age?
Here's the deal.
I feel like as a Twitch streamer and as a content creator, because you put so much of yourself in public, there are certain things to keep private.
Exactly.
I don't really.
Can you explain that further?
Well, it's because I have a personal life and I like to keep it personal, certain things.
But other things I'm completely fine revealing.
What are the other things that you're completely fine revealing?
Like, for example, where I went to college.
Say it again.
I said deadass.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you do adult content, so I mean, you're comfortable sharing your body, yes.
Your body, but not something as arbitrary as your age.
Correct.
Why?
Just for personal reasons, for comfortable reasons, you know, privacy.
Well, I mean, you speak of privacy, but isn't like posting nude photos quite the antithesis of privacy?
I guess it's whatever you feel comfortable showing, and there are certain things you're not.
Okay.
Like, for example, specific things about your past.
But I'm comfortable sharing my body, showing my body.
So you said you're in your 20s.
Yes.
Mid-20s, late 20s, early 20s?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I mean, the reason I give you pushback is because if you're uncomfortable sharing your age, it's a pretty basic basic biographical information.
Most likely you're going to figure it out by the end of the stream anyways.
How would I figure it out by the end of the stream?
By asking you the right questions.
Well, I'm not particularly interested in doing some asking you about historical facts to try to decipher what your age is.
Yeah.
It's more so just a curiosity why.
Absolutely.
Because As far as I'm aware, I don't think there's any potential security concerns when it comes to revealing one's age.
Truth.
Yeah.
But again, it's about just what I feel comfortable sharing.
Fair enough.
Okay, what about you?
Okay.
My name is Elizabeth.
Okay.
I am born and raised in Los Angeles, California.
I am a model and actress.
Age.
Age?
23.
Thank you for sharing your age.
Much appreciated.
I'm not afraid of my age.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
A text.
And you said you're from, like, grew up in LA, born in LA.
Yeah.
I'm born and raised here.
Gotcha.
Okay.
What about you?
Sorry, she's shy.
This is Bella.
She's turning five in July.
She's a Leo.
She loves long walks on the beach.
She's single.
Just kidding.
Hi, I'm Julia.
I am 26.
Thank you.
I needed that.
Tough crowd.
I'm 26, and I'm from Colorado, and I live in LA currently.
What else would you want to know?
Name, age, occupation, and where you're from.
Content creator, and I dabble with music, acting, modeling, stuff in the entertainment industry.
Also, we're going to get to it.
So I have an OnlyFans.
Yes.
Link is in the bio, Adjuli Lynn Sandoval on Instagram.
And that's lovely.
What about you?
My name is Taylor.
I'm 25.
I'm from Florida, and I'm a kik streamer.
What do you stream on kik?
Bikini content.
And sorry, your age was 25, you said?
Yes.
Okay, well, first off, Julia, thank you for disclosing your age, and thank you for disclosing your age.
Much appreciated.
Sorry, and you stream what on kik?
Bikini content.
Bikini content, so like hot tub streams or?
Yeah, I do like everything in a bikini.
So I'll like cook in a bikini.
I don't even use a hot tub at this point because kik doesn't require a body of water like Twitch, which is really cool.
So I just have like a whole L-Twitch.
L-Twitch.
Twitch is whack.
Okay.
Got it.
What about you?
I'm Victoria.
I am a Twitch streamer and OnlyFans creator.
I am Canadian, but I live in San Diego.
Are you from the French-speaking or the United States?
No, I'm from Vancouver.
So that's like two hours north of Seattle.
Okay.
Age.
I have a different reason than you, though, because I feel like I'm a little bit older, but not like.
And I feel like just like women are like always given like an expiry date.
Like if you're after like a certain age, then suddenly your content is no longer like relevant.
And I don't, I feel like I'm relevant in my own bubble, but I just don't.
Range?
I'm in my 30s.
So you're 40?
No.
Definitely not.
I'm just going to write down 40 for you.
And then you're, I'm just going to say you're 30.
How about that?
69.
It's all downhill from there.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I've definitely heard that from women where, you know, typically women who are perhaps a bit older might feel a little hesitant to share their age.
But for you, for example, I suspect you're in your 20s.
Typically, you don't hear that from women who are in their 20s who are uncomfortable sharing their age for those reasons.
What about you?
I'm Sadie.
I'm 20.
I'm from San Luis Obispo, California.
And I'm in college.
What do you study?
I'm a communications major.
Comm major.
Okay, rock and roll.
Okay, cool.
We're going to go around the table one more time.
So what is your current relationship status?
Are you single, friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship, relationship?
And also, what's your longest relationship?
And if you're single, how long have you been single?
Yes, so I'm single, and my longest relationship has been four years.
And I have been single for one and a half years.
Okay.
What about you?
I am technically single.
I have never been in like a relationship in my life.
I never had a boyfriend.
So.
Technically single.
Yeah, I was in single.
Okay.
So single.
Single.
Never had a boyfriend?
No.
I don't think I've ever been on like a romantic dating.
Is there girlfriend?
No.
No girlfriend.
Okay.
You've never been on a daughter?
I'm straight.
You've never been on a date?
I don't think I've been on like a romantic date ever in my life.
Like, I don't think I count like friend hangs.
That's like not, you know?
I don't think I've been.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, no.
Sure.
And in your bio that you provided to us, I mean, maybe you undersold yourself.
It says that you were a, you got gold five times as a U.S. ice skater.
Yes, I'm a two-times double gold medalist.
I'm a five-time U.S. national competitor.
Okay.
Yeah.
Congrats.
That's weird.
Did you still skate or have a knee injury or what happened?
No, I've accomplished as much as I wanted in skating.
Okay.
And I, because I'm very ambitious, I wanted to try to keep driving up and that introduced me into pageantry.
I was Miss Orange County.
Okay.
Miss OC.
Miss OC, yes.
Rock and roll.
Oh, thank you.
And after pageantry, I went straight into modeling and acting.
Like, I was Maxim.
I was on the cover of Maxim Magazine, I think in 2021.
And then I worked with American Horror Story, Nick's.
American Horror Story?
American Horror Story.
Oh, horror.
Horror.
Sorry, I miss her.
I miss her.
TV in the series.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that thing.
Okay, that's cool.
Were you one of them?
I've never seen the show.
I mean, I've heard of it, but like, were you one of them?
Are there monsters?
I was the creepy doll.
I was bald.
You were bald?
Yeah.
Okay, good times.
That must have been fun.
And so, were there any Olympic ambitions?
Is there ice skating in the Olympics?
Olympics?
I think so.
Yes, yes, yes.
I was in the youth Olympics.
I didn't do the Olympic Olympics.
I think Olympics, yeah.
Okay, gotcha.
But so you, so you're 23 and you said you've been single your whole life, never had a boyfriend, never even been on a romantic date.
Why do you think that is?
I think it's because of my, as you can see, like I'm just very like goal-driven.
Like, I've been so occupied throughout my life with just accomplishing things.
And I think figure skating definitely took a lot of my discipline.
I learned discipline at a very young age.
So I remember waking up at 6 a.m. every morning and I was like seven.
I was six or seven.
I woke up at six every morning to go hit the skating rink and then I went straight to school.
After school, I went back to the skating rink, did homework in the car, and then repeat.
I slept at like eight and repeated again every single day.
And this was at seven.
Was there like piano lessons anywhere in the world?
Of course.
I had piano, and piano, cello, any cello?
Violin.
Piano, violin.
Got it.
Ballet.
Gymnastics.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Track and field.
Are you an only child?
No.
Brother or sister.
One younger sister, two older brothers, one younger sister.
Oh, I misheard that.
Did anybody else hear something?
What do you mean?
Never mind.
Okay.
So, but, okay, so you've been, you said one younger brother, one younger sister?
No, one younger sister, two older brothers.
Okay, gotcha.
So it sounds like you think you were single because you've incredibly preoccupied.
You still are preoccupied.
You're very busy with your work and whatnot.
What is the longest period of time that you've, I mean, you've seen a guy?
You said you've never been on a romantic date, but it's plausible that you could have had like a situationship or something.
I guess I was close to like a friend that was a guy for like a little period of time.
That's like a pretty recent.
Like a friends with benefits or.
I want to call it that.
I just, it's for me, I categorize you as a friend or not.
You know what I mean?
Or then?
Because I want to, like, if I was to put myself down into a relationship, I want to, I guess, because actually, like, anybody that I meet, this is just my habit.
I would like to know them as a friend first because I want to know who they really are as a person, right?
Sure.
To get to know them, like, I'm not one.
Like, when I see somebody, honestly, the last thing I think about is to sleep with them.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't really care about that.
About sleeping with somebody?
Yeah, I don't care about that.
Are you waiting till marriage?
I want to save myself to like to my number one person.
You know what I mean?
And you haven't found your number one person yet?
Yeah, basically.
Okay.
So not waiting till marriage, but you want to be in love or something like that.
Yeah, I want to make sure you have a commitment with or something like that.
Basically.
Okay, so you've never hooked up with anybody?
Like, no.
Yes, you have or no, you.
Okay.
Good for you.
Good times.
Don't hear that every day on the show.
Congratulations.
Okay, so never even a date?
Because I mean, you're an attractive girl.
I'm sure some guys have shown interest in you, but just curve them.
I've been with, I don't know, every time I go out, it's more with a group of friends.
It's not really like to where it's like one-on-one.
And also the thing is, like, I have very protective parents, you know?
You still live at home?
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
That's the thing.
Protective parents, protective brothers.
Like, kind of good look.
You know what I mean?
Like, I know, like, you could probably like me.
I'm like, but then I have my mom and dad.
You know, like, yeah.
Gotcha.
Interesting.
Okay, so, I mean, what is the, is there any romantic experience you've had in the sense of, I mean, you said you've never been on a date.
Has a guy asked you out and you said no?
I assume that's happened.
Yeah, I guess so.
But then I would, like, usually explain to them that I'm into looking to like becoming friends first, if that's okay with you.
You know, like, I prefer that way before jumping start into a relationship.
Because, like, if I do want to jumpstart, I kind of like want to make sure that, because also the truth is, like, I don't want to break the other person's heart or either my heart, right?
Isn't like our feelings on the lines?
You know what I mean?
Like, if it was a jump into a relationship, I want to know for sure you are my guy and him to know that you are my girl, right?
So then, basically, if I was to jump into a relationship, it would lead to marriage.
You know?
Okay.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Okay, so I'll just say that.
What about you, Julia?
Well, first, congrats on all your accomplishments.
And you have a very good hat on your shoulders.
And I'm very proud of you.
You're 23.
23.
That's awesome.
For me, I am currently in a relationship.
I'm in my I have my first relationship, actually.
I was very similar to you, where I had never really had a boyfriend.
I'm 26 or really gone on a date much until I moved to LA two years ago.
And I've been with my boyfriend now for Seriously, like in a committed relationship for about four months.
So since the last time I was on the show, I was still.
Were you single when you were on the show last?
No, I came on and I was like, I'm actually a relationship.
Oh, shit.
Okay, so you guys are still together.
Uh-huh.
Okay, so, and you said it's been about four months?
Yes.
And that's your first ever anything, well, not maybe not anything, but your first ever relationship.
I've had situationships before, I was very, you and me are very similar.
When I first moved to LA, I was the same.
I hadn't really been on a date.
Kind of would, you know, talk to people online, stuff like that.
But I moved to L.A. and then I started kind of going on dates a little bit more.
And yeah, two years later I found someone who's...
So is this proper...
Sorry to cut you off there.
Is this properly a relationship or is it a situationship?
No, this is a relationship.
Proper.
Okay, so you guys are committed to each other exclusive?
Yes.
Okay, congrats.
What about you?
So I'm single.
And my longest relationship was five years.
What was the other question?
How long have you been single?
Oh, I've been single since October of last year.
October of 2022?
Yes.
Okay, so what, eight months, nine months-ish?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
What about you?
I'm married.
How long have you guys been married?
Five years?
Probably longer than that.
I can't count anymore.
Five years.
Six years.
Okay, and you're 40, so you got married at 35.
Is that right?
We've been together for like 10 years now.
10 years.
Got it.
Okay.
How did you guys meet?
I used to watch him play World of Warcraft on Twitch.
I was a fan.
You used to watch him play World of Warcraft.
On Twitch.
Is he like a big Twitch streamer?
do you know are you familiar with world of warcraft yeah i'm uh hold on Did you play?
Am I familiar with World of Warcraft?
My husband is, do you know about raids and stuff like that?
Lich King World First is my husband.
He was in Blood Legion.
He's esports.
Well, I mean, I'm more of like a classic Andy when it comes to World of Warcraft.
Yeah, me too.
So I'm not like...
I'm a WoW nerd.
I quit kind of before TBC, you know, so like, not really my thing.
So, okay, he's...
Do you want to drop his...
Can you drop his...
I mean, he's retired now, but he's Alan on Twitch.
He's who?
Alan, Alien.
Alan.
He's one of the original four from Justin TV.
Oh, no shit.
Yeah, that's awesome.
So if you are familiar with Twitch and you type the brokeback emote, that's his face.
He's the first Twitch emote that's not stuff.
Oh, okay.
Wait, but he doesn't stream anymore.
He's like Loki on my stream, but he's like retired.
He's retired.
Okay, gotcha.
But does he still play World of Warcraft?
No, he plays Lost Dark now, though.
Oh, okay.
Well, like, you said he was like a Chad Raider?
Yeah.
When he was like playing?
He quit that, though.
Like, in like 20 years.
What class did he play?
A hunter.
He pretty much quit as soon as I moved on.
Irredeemable.
Irredeemable.
Oh, that's cool.
Cool, cool, cool.
All right.
That's very cool.
But you met him through World of Warcraft.
you were watching his streams.
So did you like, how did you, were you already on his realm?
No, I was in his Twitch chat.
Okay.
And someone said, oh, shit, she's a girl.
And he said, let me check her out.
And then he was like, she's fake.
And I said, no, I'm real.
He's like, well, then come see me.
So he flew me out that same week to San Diego to come meet him.
Wait, okay.
So you were in his Twitch chat.
Yes.
He was streaming.
You are like them.
Yes.
I love this.
Yeah.
And I thought maybe you also played World of Warcraft.
I do play well.
I was watching him like a fan would watch.
Okay, sure.
But so did you like create a character on his realm and like send him a chance?
No, no, I didn't.
No, no, I was in his Twitch chat talking.
In his Twitch chat, okay.
Yes.
Okay.
And so we flew you out a week later.
Yeah.
And now y'all are married.
Yes, shit.
And then we streamed together.
Yeah.
This was in 2012.
That's like the early days of Twitch and stuff.
Okay, wow.
Good times.
Wow.
And then we streamed together for like 10 years.
And then during COVID, he retired.
And now I'm doing all the things.
Okay.
What class did you play in World War II?
I play a Prot Warrior.
Prot?
Yeah, I'm a tank.
Tank, okay.
Gotcha.
Good shit.
Okay.
Well, what about you?
I'm in a relationship.
Relationship?
For almost two years now.
Two years.
Okay.
And you said you're 20, right?
So 20, yeah.
Did you guys meet in high school or?
I've actually known him since elementary school.
He was my brother's friend.
And so he's two years older than me.
And in high school, we didn't talk.
It was like nothing.
And then when I graduated is when we kind of just like reconnected and we started dating.
And he's my first boyfriend.
So.
First boyfriend.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Okay, cool.
All right.
That's everybody's relationship stats.
So a couple of you do adult content, right?
I believe you, you, you, and you.
And then not you, and then not you.
Really quick, just because I'm curious.
How much did y'all make on the OF?
Not enough, but more than Twitch.
Because Twitch takes 50% off your subs and stuff.
Okay.
So like range?
Like five figures a month, six figures a month?
Let's just say, well, it really depends, but it depends on month, right?
Per month.
Wait, do you want just like on OF per month?
Is that what you're looking for?
So like it can range from like 2K and up.
Okay.
Julia?
I do well.
I do well.
Okay.
You do well.
All right.
Six figures a month.
Have you had the six figure a month?
Close, but no.
Close, but no.
What about you?
So.
A little closer to the mic.
Oh, sorry.
it's fine um so i don't do like i don't i don't post nude exactly on my home page So I don't make as much on OF as I do streaming.
So streaming's your primary.
Okay.
Yeah, streaming is my.
Got it.
Okay.
And then are any of you in like the top percent, you know, top 0.1?
0.69.
Like the Amaranth level?
Yeah.
But isn't that like, doesn't that include all accounts on the platform?
Like that includes people that don't even make content, right?
They say that the percentage is based also on engagement.
It's not all monetary.
So like if you have likes and stuff like that and not necessarily tips and stuff like that, it can boost your percentage.
So if you were like, if someone was only making say like $300 a month on OnlyFans, would that put them in like the top 2% or something?
Probably.
No, that would be like top 6%.
Top 6%.
That's still top 6%.
That's nothing to scoff at.
Majority of people have a hard time monetizing from friendly sites, for sure.
Okay.
Yeah, that kind of reminds me of, I mean, I guess I'm sure the girls that are like top 0.1% are making good money.
Yeah.
But I feel like people that try to claim, and I don't know if they do this, they'll claim top 5%.
It's like people who are self-employed, who have no employees or one employee, who call themselves CEO.
It's like you're not a CEO, you know?
True.
I don't know.
You guys probably see dudes who are like, I'm a fucking CEO.
It's like, no, you're not.
Well, like, for example, you can take Amaranth as an example.
She was very open about it.
She actually makes around one mil per month.
Oh, yeah.
From her.
Yeah.
OnlyFans Alone.
Oh, exactly.
Yeah, she's doing good.
She's rolling there.
She's probably one of the popular ones.
She's doing good.
Okay.
Let's see.
I think I had something here that I wanted to ask.
Let's see.
So on your Instagram, you're in a relationship right now.
When are you going to post your boyfriends?
Because it's been four months.
Are you watching my stories every day?
Because you would see him.
No, I don't watch your.
I mean, I need you to stalk my account harder, Brian.
I took five minutes to look at it before the show.
I don't see your boyfriend anywhere.
What's up?
He's there.
I post him on my story.
Okay, on your story, but are you ever going to post them in the actual, like a little photo, you know?
Yeah, I think when we, we're planning on traveling a bit, so I'm down to like do, because the content that I post is very...
You.
Yeah, but it's like an aesthetic.
Like, it's like majority of my photos, it's something I would want to be able to be painted and put on a wall, if that makes sense.
Like, it's more of an aesthetic, like female body art vibe.
And so, yeah, for sure, I'm down to, I've taken photos of him and stuff.
Does he post to you on his Instagram?
Does he have an Instagram?
Yeah, but he does a lot of fitness content.
So his business is centered around that.
So the majority of his content is him working out.
I think we've done one video together, and I shared it too of us working out together.
Okay.
A fit girl, too.
Are you going to create OF content with him?
I already have.
Oh, you have?
Okay.
Have you done content with guys in the past, or is this the first time you've done BG content?
Good lingo.
You got the lingo title.
Yeah, I'm trying to avoid.
I'm trying to avoid.
Yeah, I'm trying to avoid.
Yeah, this is my first time.
Okay.
I didn't plan on doing it either.
Who has more followers?
You or him?
Oh, my gosh.
Come on, Matt Brian.
I'm just doing the calculus of.
We both have good platforms.
Who makes more money?
You or him?
We both do well, Brian.
It's you, isn't it?
You're digging.
You make more money, right?
We both do well.
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough.
Okay.
So I think, and maybe we'll touch on this a little later on in the show, last show you said, actually I don't want to go there.
Go in.
Thank you.
Well, you said that you used to be larger previously, but then you got on this fitness kick and you got super into shape.
I don't know where I'm really going with that.
It's there.
Just take a second.
Is there a photo on your Instagram?
Not my Instagram, but on my Facebook, I have, like, photos from high school.
But when you say you were, like, bigger, like, were you obese or just, like, a little...
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Figure skater chick, do you like opera?
Do you like opera?
Opera?
I'm listening to opera.
He wants to take you to the opera.
Do you accept his invitation?
Who is he?
He's the guy BadZXE in the chat.
You might have to do an Instagram review, buddy.
But would that be a good first date, though?
Honestly, I'm into the weird.
Like, I don't like it.
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So, Bad ZXE, he's invited you for an opera date.
Do you accept?
Honestly, I'm kind of open.
I feel like I've kind of trapped myself for a bit, you know?
You've trapped yourself?
As in, like, kind of like not giving guys a chance, right?
Because, like, I always maybe it's my habit.
Friend zoning someone.
You know what I mean?
So maybe.
So you're ready to mingle?
Not mingle.
Let's just talk, you know, get to know who you are.
I'm okay with that.
She's ready to start coming.
Wait, you've friend zoned.
So you've friend zoned a lot of guys.
Is that what?
What's up?
Yeah, I guess you could say.
How many men have honestly?
Like, only because I'm so busy with my work to where I feel like I would like do.
I feel bad just giving in like, I don't know, 30% of my time.
You know what I mean?
If it was to jump into dating, I feel like you both have to be set in your career to where you could date like 100%.
That's what I feel.
Okay.
How many guys would you say you've friend zoned?
Quite a bit.
Like 100 plus?
200?
A thousands?
Like, give us a number.
My DMs are a lot, should I say?
Like.
Well, I don't know if you can you count just a random dude DMing you as a like friend zoning that like, if you turn them down, is that a friend zone?
Probably not that friend zone.
Or you mean like a connection with?
I mean I'd say a friend zone.
There would at least be some in-person connection, whether it was a guy meeting you on somewhere in the public or at a bar.
Yeah, probably.
If you do that, thousands and thousands of plus thousands and thousands, but friend.
But friend zoning isn't necessarily like a bad thing.
No, because it doesn't mean you're stuck there.
That's the thing.
Yeah, that's why you're kind of stuck there.
No, you're stuck in the front zone.
No, there's no getting out of the friend zone.
Not at all.
It depends on the duration.
But this is good.
Like I feel like like i'm talking to my younger self a little bit, talking to you, because I always thought that like i'm never gonna find someone, like immediately, it's the immediate attraction.
And like yeah, like if i'm not into them right away like no, if like someone came to me and they were like into me and I was kind of attracted to them, like that would be the person.
But literally, like how I got into a relationship was it was somebody I got to know their values and who they were as a person and obviously they were attractive, but it was just friends.
And then now we have such a sturdy foundation.
But I think you bring up a good point.
You had the initial attraction, but you had the initial attraction.
I feel like if you didn't have the initial attraction, they would be in a friend zone and stuck there.
I don't think they would be able to get out.
I didn't have the initial.
No, because there's different types of attraction.
There's the like holy shit, I want to rip your clothes off right now attraction.
And then there's like that he's super cute and has a good body and i'm not gonna lie and I even told my boyfriend this like I was, like I always thought you were attractive.
Never in a million years did I think we'd be right here.
And he even felt the same way about me doing bg content on of hell.
Yeah okay yeah, she's like can't relate to that part.
It's like just that term friend zone, like I don't even like saying that term.
It's more like, can you just be friends first?
That's why I like to say and like kind of get to know who you are.
But I think there's a difference between let's try to be friends first and friend zoning.
I think friend zoning is like it's pretty apparent.
I can't really say that.
It's pretty apparent that there's no, like, you're not attracted to them.
And I suppose it's plausible maybe they level up or maybe the woman's circumstances change where they're like, oh fuck, I'm 35.
I'm desperate, you know, whatever the fuck it is.
No offense to anybody.
But like, whereas to start as friends is like, he's attractive.
Let's see.
Yeah, yeah.
I guess you could say that.
I think that's terrible though.
I think that's.
I'm not, I don't agree with starting as friends.
I think it should be romantic from the start.
Yeah.
Really?
Because I just agree.
For me, I feel like you always need some sort of foundation to even continue a relationship.
Like, don't you want your significant other to be technically your best friend?
I feel like it turns into that.
Like, the more you date.
But like, if you're, it's always every time like you're friends with like the person you might like be dating, it's like, oh, but we don't want to ruin our friendship.
And it always, that's just like, that's always said.
I don't think your approach is wrong.
I'm just saying my personal view is I don't think I don't think it's necessary to start as friends.
Okay, but what would you call them?
Yeah, go ahead.
What do you mean?
As in, like, if you see a guy, then you just, like, you see him, like, what would you call him?
Friendly.
You're friendly, but you feel like flirting.
it depends what your your goals are i mean it says like i mean you're remind me did you say you were religious or not Not really.
I'm religious.
I'm Catholic.
You're Catholic.
Okay.
So, and you didn't, as far as I recall, you didn't say you are waiting till marriage.
Yeah, I want to wait.
You want to wait till you're in love, but not till you're married.
Yeah, till I'm in love, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
But marriage is not necessary.
No, marriage is not necessary.
strictly catholic are you i'm a strict catholic but not like not wait till mary Yeah, not till like to the pedestal, yeah, you know, to the top to your net, not like that.
Okay.
So as far as how you would start off with a guy, but not start just being friends, I mean because there's a difference between hanging out someone who's a friend and hanging out someone that you want to pursue things with romantically.
Now, that doesn't mean that you have to immediately have sex with them.
That can, that can wait.
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
So would you call that like a situationship?
Like, what would you call that?
No, it doesn't even have to be a situationship, but there can be, there can be a clear, there could be a very clear understanding by both parties that this is a romantic relationship, not a platonic relationship.
Like we are dating each other.
And as far as like the, even if you're waiting however long to become intimate, you know, that's that's another conversation.
I think like your guys' view on like friends and like ours may be a little bit skewed and that's what's like I think we all agree, but it's the friends, like the definition of friends.
Like for me, I was going to a gym that my boyfriend started and he was training there.
He trained me and that's how I got to know.
Bradley Martin?
Is that your boy?
No.
No.
And that's how I got to know him.
And so of course it was a professional environment.
We're friends.
It's not like I'm like going and eating lunch with him and like we're like besties, you know, but it's friendly.
And so maybe that's kind of what you mean.
I think that's it's friendly and it's in a situation where I get to see this person's values and get to know him and at his core as opposed to like him coming up to me and being like, hey, like what's your number?
Like let's go to dinner.
Like it was just, it was, it's not like we were friends, but it was friendly.
So friendly.
So the relationship got to develop.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Would you still put a label like as friendly just like for friends?
Or like, because like I'm friendly with you guys, I feel like, but we're not romantically attracted.
I mean, yeah, but I don't know.
There is no potential that you might date one of us.
It's kind of like that.
It's like when you're seeing someone who's friendly, a guy, right?
You're like, okay, I'm kind of interested in him, like more than just friends, like romantically, right?
So I do find some sort of attraction, not like rip your clothes off, but some sort of attraction, you know.
And it's like, yeah, you just try to get to know each other.
You kind of flirt and stuff like that.
And then once you're like, okay, this is actually a cool person, then you move on to like, let's be actually like romantic, romantic.
Yeah.
But I wasn't used to like what I was used to is like a guy would ask me out and I'd think he was like hot and then I'd get to know him and like see what his values were.
Like what I did differently this time and what landed me in a relationship that I actually see a future, a long, long future with, is the fact that we were friendly and I got to know his values were so attractive to me that like I wanted more of it and I was like, and he's really cute, but that wasn't the cute and like the looks was not the initial thing.
Yes, personality person.
So that's like really hard for me.
Yeah, it was just me.
I don't.
I don't care how cute you are like, if your personality is not there, it's not for me.
Not for me, true personality is huge.
Well, I mean true, I think that's the case, but I mean, would you agree that the looks have to be there?
Oh no, to begin with.
Now no yes no, no.
Anyone that says no is lying.
Stop the cow.
But like no, there has to be an initial like attraction, there has to be an I'm like 100% a personality person.
You say that okay no, wouldn't you find them attractive because of his personality?
Hold on, let me look up Alan here.
Let's see, he's probably, he's probably a Giga Chad.
Listen, I'm not gonna lie, though.
Like sex is a very large part of relationship and like you have to be physically attractive no, but like the thing is, like it can be so good that it like it just changes the game it does.
I'm not gonna lie, that's a Giga chat right there.
He's a handsome guy.
I mean that, first off, he's making a ridiculous face.
That that's not a fair.
I'm sure he's a very handsome.
I can't even find him on who am I, I don't know?
Okay, in any case, Alan Zoka.
No, it's not Alan Zoka.
No okay, there's another Alan on Twitch apparently, who I can't.
A-L-A-N on Twitch.
Okay, A-L-A-N okay.
Well, in any case um, I think attraction does play a role like uh, you know, if you don't find a guy attractive when he approaches you, sometimes you're kind of like I kind of don't want to even talk to you.
I feel like there has to be some sort of level of like, all right, you're kind of cute yeah well, I just feel like you say you're a personality person and so don't you find them attractive because of their personality, 100.
So it's like they build that, they build that all up.
For me, it's like their personality just makes them even more attractive because like, I fall for guys who are funny right, but I genuinely have this thing and I looked it up and I forget what the name Of it is, and maybe you guys relate where, like, I could see anyone could walk down the street, and my friends would literally be like, Holy shit, that guy is so hot.
And I'm like, not even like noticing.
And then I get to know someone, I'm like, wow, he's so hot.
What the fuck?
Like, or just has like attractive energy.
Like, not like physical, like, sexiness, but just like he pulls.
I feel like he's got that riz.
Right.
I feel like the physical attraction is good for, like, okay, maybe I'll give this person a chance, but like, personality plays a role in I want to actually like potentially date them.
Like, an elevation.
Yeah, so I don't think you can necessarily completely avoid the physical attraction.
Yeah, but how many girls will ignore red flags if a guy is exceptionally attractive?
Like, you often see Manny.
Like, you'll see Manny.
You'll see people who.
You're really talking about me right now.
Well, you'll see.
For example, you'll see these either TikTok videos or you'll hear it from women themselves.
And look, men do this too.
But if he's over 6'3, I'm going to start ignoring red flags, like that type of shit.
Like, girls will overlook certain negative personality characteristics if a guy's exceptionally attractive.
And certainly I think men will do that too.
Like, if a girl is really fucking hot, a lot of dudes, if the chick, if she's kind of bitchy or whatever, they might be like, ah, yeah, she's kind of.
I mean, I think that's, I don't think men should do that, but there are men out there who will disregard, for example, say a woman who's kind of bitchy.
They'll disregard that if she's really hot.
They'll tolerate.
For an unaware individual, yeah, for sure.
You can do that with personality too.
Like, I don't mean to like talk my husband down because he's amazing and I love him to death.
But like, you can overlook certain things physically too.
My husband's 5'5 ⁇ .
Wait, how tall are you?
I'm 5'3.
Okay.
Two inch to me.
But I wear like 5'.
I'm literally wearing like 5-inch shoes.
Yeah, but he's like, he has king energy, though.
Yeah, I mean, it sounds like he's like a Giga Chad World of Warcraft player.
So like, I mean, it makes sense.
He hasn't played WoW in forever.
That doesn't define him.
Okay, fair enough.
But you were saying that that does apply to you.
Like, you'll ignore red flags if the guy's really attractive.
And I mean, look, I think girls know if their DTF went like immediate, almost immediately.
I think it's more so in my mind.
I'm like, I can change him, even though I know that's like toxic and I shouldn't.
That's my toxic trait: I feel like, oh, I can change him.
But like, there's this one guy who took me out for Valentine's Day, and he literally told me, first date, I've broken up with every girl that I've ever dated, and my longest relationship was six months.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And I still, you know.
When's our second date?
Yeah, when's our second date?
I had sex with him for like two months and then he ended things with me and I was like super sad about it, but I was like, you know.
But were you just like with him for sex or were you like actually ready to date date?
He like love bombed me.
Like he was telling me, you know, I don't want to abandon you.
Like I want to meet all your needs.
I like you to the point where it scares me, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, oh, okay, but.
But then I should have known from the start because of what he said.
So, yeah.
I don't know.
Just going back to the whole friend thing, I don't think that you're going to be able to fringe your way into romance, into like turning a girl on or moving it into a romantic thing.
Yeah, there's a spark.
There's got to be a spark.
No, I feel like once you're friend zone, you won't be able to escape it.
Sorry, repeat that?
Yeah, I think if you're as a guy, if you're in a friend zone, you're going to be stuck in a friend zone.
I don't think you can actually, I think you're fucking done.
It's better to move on.
Something big would have to happen to get exactly.
Yeah.
So you have to be like friendly, but never get into a friend zone.
If you're a friend zone, you're fucked.
You're done.
You won't be able to actually move into a romantic relationship with the girl.
I disagree.
I disagree.
Well, look, it's a very good idea.
I just think it's so circumstantial.
It's possible.
Look, it's possible to get out of the friend zone.
However, I think practically speaking, it's better to just find another girl as a guy.
Like, it's just play the numbers game.
For sure, but it's not, it's not, if the girl actually has, like, is an aware human being and actually has more substance to her than just what she looks like, then you can definitely friend zone isn't like.
But you have to have shit going on for you too, and you guys have to match up lifestyle-wise, and there's more to it.
But yeah, like, I don't say friend zone, but like, I friend someone only because I'm always traveling.
Like, I cannot, like, I could barely see you.
You know what I mean?
I probably will see you, like, once in four months.
Like, I can't, I can't be.
How much are you traveling?
I travel a lot, and I also run an international business.
So I run supermarkets throughout Asia.
So I am a business girl.
I am.
My whole family do it all.
Asian countries, Vietnam?
Just throughout Asia, China, East Asia.
Vietnam, yes.
Vietnam, Laos.
Yeah, all over that.
How's Thailand looking?
Yep.
Philippines?
Philippines?
All down there.
Are you the owner?
Is this like a family business?
My brother and I started it, and then we kind of branch it out to my parents, and then we all take care of it.
It's a supermarket?
What is it?
Grocery stores or like convenience stores.
What do you guys sell?
Just food.
It's like a normal thing.
It's not like a niche, like you import American food.
No, no, no.
Okay, it's not like specialty things.
Okay.
But so it's your family's business.
Or you said you and your brother started it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's why we're always so busy.
Just a question.
So you're 23.
Yes.
And you're only, I mean, I don't know when you start.
When did you start the business?
Five years ago when you were 18?
Finally like six years ago.
So you were 17.
Yeah, I was like right after skating.
Yeah.
So in a six-year period, you've managed to build a multi-country.
What's the term for that?
A multi-country, successful international.
Is it considered?
Is it international?
It is, yeah.
If it's outside of the red.
It's Pan-Pacific?
Wait, Pan-Pacific?
That would include.
How old's your residents?
What's the term for?
There's like a specific term, but 33.
He's 33 and he's a pharmacist right now.
He's a pharmacist.
He's a pharmacist, yeah.
Bro, how do you have time for all this shit?
You're an ice skater.
That's what I'm telling you.
I don't have time.
Give me a time management course.
We need to change notes.
But wait, so okay, hold on.
How many individual stores do you own?
Like hundreds, like a lot.
Hundreds?
Yeah.
How do you in a I mean most business, I mean, how do you have a business?
They own it.
They don't run it.
You know what I mean?
Like they have running for it.
I'm sure you have a hierarchy.
There's managers.
Probably the siblings are.
But I've never heard.
I mean, I don't know how efficient you guys are, but for a business that just started six years ago to have to be established in multiple countries and have over 100 stores is, did you take over in a pre-existing business?
I guess you could say like my because my brother, he has friends.
Like it's kind of like when you kind of grow, because it's like him and his friend.
They had an idea.
Yeah.
So then it branched out.
Basically, ideas clashed.
Did you do acquisitions of pre-existing stores?
Yeah, you'd take over.
You'd take over a store that's already there.
Okay, I see.
Yeah.
Are you able to share the name of this?
If I'm ever in family things, you know, like my brother's going to kill me.
I was going to say, if I was ever in if I was ever in everything, I'm like, ah.
If I was ever in Ho Chi Minh, I'll fucking stop by your grocery store and buy some shit.
I'll be a patron of your store.
I go to Ho Chi Minh.
Yeah, what are the best goods?
You don't think so?
What are the best can be?
Is it still called Holmes?
Is it like a good promotion?
Is it still called Ho Chi Minh City?
That's the capital, right?
Of Vietnam?
Yeah.
They call it Ho Chi Minh.
Yeah.
Sweet.
Yeah, it's a free point.
Used to be Saigon.
Used to be Saigon.
Yeah, it used to be Saigon.
Yeah.
Okay.
Actually, my parents, they escaped from the Vietnam War.
Like, we didn't grow.
You know what I mean?
You're Vietnamese.
Yeah, yeah.
They escaped from the Vietnamese Vietnam War.
Yeah.
I remember they had to leave their parents behind.
My dad, he basically went to the shelter camp.
He remembered he had to leave his dog.
I think his friends all are like, he had like 10 people on the boat.
I think only two survived, him and someone else, and the rest just gone.
Yeah, I mean, that's certainly the story of a lot of Vietnamese American immigrants.
I mean, they were escaping the Vietnam War.
But I mean, well, I don't want to dig too far, but I mean, that's quite, I mean, in a six-year time period to scale up a business to be in multiple countries and have hundreds of stores, that's quite remarkable.
So I'm not surprised that you're quite busy.
So you're traveling most of the year.
You're also doing modeling and acting.
So you're 23.
Do you want a family down the road?
For sure.
You want to have kids?
Yeah.
How long do you want?
I mean, you're still young, but I mean, do you think that being, do you have any intentions at some point in your 20s to scale back how much time you're putting towards your enterprises, your business, making money, and pursuing, like putting more towards actually trying to pursue a relationship?
I think probably within the next like, maybe one or two more years, and I'll start committing into a relationship.
Okay.
All right, gotcha.
Yeah, so give me like a few more years.
Okay.
So you'd have time once every four months to hang out with a guy currently.
No, like, I feel like.
Is that what you said?
Like, once every four months?
Like, to like guy, like I do like, you know what I mean?
Like, if you do, yeah, it's so hard.
That's the thing.
It's really hard to even make time for like someone that you do potentially think.
Yeah.
Okay.
Once she makes her multi-millionaires, she'll be able to like, you know, dedicate time to actually go on the dates and pursue a relationship, seriously.
For sure.
I feel like I will know when I'm ready.
Yeah.
You know?
Got it.
Okay, gotcha.
So let's get a couple chats here.
We have from TJ King.
Ladies, would you smash Kratos?
Kratos from like God of War?
Kratos?
Is that right?
Is that Kratos?
Isn't there Kratos in God of War?
I'm not sure who Kratos is, but I don't know any of those terms.
I don't know.
I don't know who those is.
Oops, let me hide that.
Okay, we have TJ King here.
Sorry, TJ.
I don't know if they know who that is.
What is the benefits the man gets from being friend zoned?
And that's from TJ King.
Hey, thank you so much, man.
Appreciate the super chat.
What is the benefits the man gets from being friend zoned?
Well, I'll let the ladies answer this first.
I can go.
No, no benefit.
Zero.
Zero benefit.
There's a deal, I feel like, no, no, no, hold on.
Companionship.
Companionship.
No, no, no.
You have more value than just you, like, yeah, I have to do that.
No, no, no.
Here's the deal, though.
I feel like this guy who's asking, most likely, he doesn't want to be in the friend zone, right?
He actually wants to be romantically involved.
And I am going to be, from my perspective, a girl knows right away who she's willing to date and who he's actually friend zoning.
So in my opinion, if you're friend zone, I feel like it's pretty much close to impossible to get out of the friend zone.
So if you're thinking, oh, potentially we might become romantically involved, I think you're wasting your time.
Okay, but you get their friendship forever.
So like if you really like her that much, when you're in the middle of the moment, I think a guy who's romantically interested in you is not really interested in friend zone, like having friendships with you because he actually just wants to romantically date you.
I would disagree.
There's a bunch of people in my kick chat that would love to just like talk to me every day and be friends with me.
Oh, be careful because that's a parasocial relationship we're talking about.
But isn't that what friend zone is?
Isn't friend zone just a parasocial relationship in real life?
Kind of?
No.
I don't think the person that gets friend zoned should have all their eggs in one basket on this one girl.
But like if you have like, you care about her, yeah, leave her in your life.
But like you do need to go out and pursue other people because you're just, she's clearly stating her boundaries and showing her boundaries.
And so you should also like be aware of that and respect that.
I think well said, yes.
I feel like that's what the benefit would be from being friend zoned is just not being with that girl then.
How is that a benefit?
I would say because then you can go find someone that's actually going to like, obviously she doesn't want you.
You can go find somebody that actually wants you, will respect you, and you won't have to wait in the friend zone forever.
You've been freed.
Yeah.
You're free now.
You sure way that you're going to get in.
So you are now like lose that attraction and go find somebody.
Here's one thing that I would come back to you with though.
I feel like if you're friend zoned, right, as a guy, you're romantically attracted to the girl, right?
But she isn't interested in you romantically.
So what if she starts talking to you about her current boyfriends that she's dating, the guys that she's interested in, if she's flirts with other guys in front of you and stuff like that, wouldn't that hurt you?
And like it kind of will bring your confidence level down because I've been in situations where I had a crush on a guy, but you know, he wasn't interested back in me or whatever.
And like seeing him with other people kind of hurt me.
And so I just feel like in that case, it's better to actually just split off and just try to pursue other ladies.
Yeah.
Just so you're not wasting your time.
You're not killing your confidence.
Absolutely.
I wouldn't say friends.
Honestly.
You're not my friend anymore.
Are you friends on me?
But actually, we're just not friends anymore at all.
I kind of agree with that.
Yeah.
Word?
Okay.
We have.
Thank you for the donut, man.
Ladies, name three countries besides the U.S., Mexico, or Canada.
No repeating other people's answers.
Okay, go.
Switzerland, France, and New Zealand.
Okay, Vietnam, Thai, Thailand, and China.
Okay.
Geography was not my strongest.
What the fuck just fell off of you?
My brain saw it.
Hold on.
What about you?
Go ahead.
Wait.
Nicaragua, Colombia, Chile.
How many?
Three.
Three.
Norway, Denmark.
I think there's another Scandinavian country there.
Iceland.
I don't even really want to attempt to try.
Yep, that's one.
Russia.
Okay.
Ukraine.
Is that like kind of Russia, Ukraine?
Okay.
One more.
Europe?
Did someone say that already?
Yeah.
That is a constant.
You meant to say Egypt.
That's, I think, what you imagine.
I got the two.
I'll say two out of three.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
What about you, Julia?
Three countries.
Go quick, quick, quick.
You got this.
I believe in you.
I honestly don't even know what was currently said.
Just name three countries.
Yeah, but I don't know what these other, everyone else already said.
Just throw three out there.
I did Northern Europe.
Even if you copy.
She did it.
South America.
She did some Asian countries.
She did Asian.
So you've got Africa.
Africa's wide open.
Africa is wide open.
Middle East is open.
Here.
Middle East is open.
Any African country is yours for the taking.
Not literally.
Because that would be colonization.
Okay.
Let's see.
Oceanic countries are open to.
Well, I don't know if they're a country or not, but like, is Haiti a country?
Haiti countries?
Yep.
Haiti.
Yep, one.
Padre Islands.
Is that a country?
Those arelands.
The Padre Islands.
Most likely they're territories.
What else you got?
Two more.
We believe in you.
Is Saudi Arabia?
Yep.
Well done.
And you got this, Julia.
You got this.
Did someone say Indonesia?
Beautiful.
Well done.
All right.
You guys will pass.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
And we have Curtis here.
Curtis says, Elizabeth, can you read this one?
Okay.
To Elizabeth, you are very.
To Elizabeth, you're a very beautiful, a pretty lady.
My question is.
Hold on, you're putting words in his head.
I can't read that.
How dare you?
How dare you?
Sorry, sorry.
Here, let me pull it up again.
Go ahead.
Here we go.
Okay, to Elizabeth, you're a very pretty lady.
My question is, because of all of your accomplishments in life so far, do you feel like it will intimidate men and make it harder?
Good question.
Sad to say, but yes.
Well, I don't.
Yes.
I don't think you're going to intimidate men, is the thing.
I think that, for example, I mean, would you, you're a successful woman, would you want for a partner, maybe a guy who you eventually date or marry, would you want a guy who, in terms of his success, is at least as successful as you or more?
I like a guy that has ambitions, right?
I like a guy that's driven, has a goal in mind.
Because honestly, that's like sexy to me.
Like seeing a guy that has a goal in life and seeing him achieve it.
Sure.
That's attractive to me.
But then you don't have to be on my level.
You know what I mean?
Like you don't have to accomplish that much, but like just seeing the process of it is nice.
Okay.
What is your level, by the way?
You make a million over a mill a year?
What's the boss babe status?
Millionaire, I guess.
Well, okay, millionaire, that's a little different.
But how much, I mean, how much do you make a year?
Range?
You don't have to say exact.
Do you make more, six, seven figures a year?
Yeah.
Eight figures?
Probably.
You make eight figures a year.
Ooh, shit.
Wait, can I ask you?
Get me on those flights with you.
Was it you specifically making that money, or is it your family?
So like you don't necessarily see that money.
The thing is, no matter what job that I book, that's the thing about my family.
It's like all of our money comes together.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because my family support is very, you know, my family's a tight bond.
That's big-based.
It's pretty basic.
Like anything that I book, like with American Horror Story or with Maxim or Estee Lauder, that paycheck, I'm like, mom, this is yours.
Like I give it to my mom.
Leave him alone.
What bank accounts specifically, like you guys all share a bank account then?
And like have a yeah, like we have access to the what did you do to your hand by the way?
You got a band-aid on your hand.
Did you get in a fight with somebody or what's up?
I cut myself.
Wow, that's like do we need to call like a line for you or something?
No, I'm a tough girl.
Don't worry.
If you get married, are you gonna send a prenup?
You're gonna send a prenup?
You're gonna have a prenup?
Like, what if guys, she hasn't even gotten her serious relationship yet?
I don't know how to send it off.
Take it off!
You guys, are you both interested or what's going on over here?
Your family has wealth, right?
And you're saying, yeah, I would date a guy with ambitions, but not on the same level as me.
So he doesn't necessarily have to be like a multi-millionaire.
So if you were to marry, would you send a prenup?
I don't know.
I know.
I haven't thought about that.
Elizabeth, if I were to marry you, if I were to marry you, if I were to propose to you, right?
Let's say I propose to you.
And let's say you're earning more than me.
If you're saying you're making eight figures a year, you're earning more than me.
Is there going to be a prenup between us?
Is there going to be a prenup?
Sorry, bads.
Is there a prenup?
Because I'm, listen, if you really cared about me, you wouldn't make me sign a prenup.
Like, if you really loved me.
Yeah, the truth is, yeah.
Like, honestly, if I do.
Like, it's forever, Elizabeth.
You and me, it's forever.
You, you, me?
Yeah, it's forever.
Like, we're not getting divorced.
So, like, no, no prenup needed.
There's no prenup needed.
Because it's true love.
It's true.
If it's true love, you know what I mean?
Like, I wouldn't.
Yeah, but money can change anyone.
How would you know it's true love?
Like, you never really know.
Like, monogamous relationships have 50% failure rate.
So, how do you feel about that?
Wait, which?
Monogamous relationships, like marriages have 50% failure rate?
All close.
Oh, you're talking marriage, like the divorce rate.
Sorry, yeah.
Divorce rates.
Wait, why'd you say monogamous?
Because polyamorous relationship and stuff have higher.
Higher chance of divorce or separation.
Yeah.
Failure rate.
Well, I don't suspect she's interested in the polyamorous.
Yeah, so yeah.
Yeah, no.
No prenup for you and me.
I said, if it's true love, then of course it is.
Of course it is with you.
All right, boys.
I got the bag.
Let's go.
Okay.
How did you like.
What's that?
Yeah, nearly got.
Okay.
She's like, are you down?
I don't know.
Are you down for me to be like a stay-at-home dad?
Is that cool with you?
Like, I just do nothing and you just.
No, you got to do something.
That's cool.
No, I'll just like.
I'll just take care of you.
You're taking care of the kids, yeah.
And the house.
And you're going to be able to do it.
I'll take care of the kids.
She brings up a very interesting point.
You did say do nothing, but taking care of kids, taking care of my wife.
You're saying a wife does nothing then.
Well, I didn't mean taking care of the kids is doing nothing.
No, no, no.
What I was saying is do nothing in terms of work.
In terms of contributing monetarily?
Like a stay-at-home job.
Yeah, like a stay-at-home dad.
Yeah.
I'll drive the minivan.
It's all good.
I got you.
So I'm a breadwinner, dad.
Yeah, how many kids do you want?
Seven?
I got you.
Jesus.
Is that you're going to birth them too?
No.
No burden.
No burden.
I'll be there for like the first three deliveries, but after that, I'll probably be kicking it at home and shit.
He'll be on the extra.
Yeah, like you're going to be like, after like three deliveries, like I can be in Hawaii or something, and you're just, you know.
Okay, anyways.
What?
Okay.
I don't know where I was going with that.
Hey, stay-at-home dads are hot.
Thank you.
Okay, we have, let's get through a couple, let's see here.
By the way, we were going to have Bottom G on the show, but unfortunately he couldn't make it, so maybe we'll get him on the next show.
Let's see.
Julia, I have just a couple specific notes for each of you here from some of our conversations before the show.
Julia, you were previously on with Lav.
She was wearing the beret.
do you have any choice words for lav because i think you guys had a little um you guys had a little please hold Please, what, you, are you, wait, what?
She's cold.
Oh, you're cold.
Okay.
Please hold.
Please hold.
Okay, she's putting on her undersized leather jacket.
Oh, what the f?
Oh, shit.
Oh, she came in the cosplay.
Listen.
Bro, okay.
Let's go.
What's happening?
I have no words for you.
Oh, wow.
I hope you're having a good day, though, honestly.
I am.
That's all.
I hope you can also name three countries with me sometime.
Lav, the beret girl?
Yeah, that's my girl.
I think there's a little sexual tension between you two.
Oh, my Brian, that's so scary.
I think you guys might have had like something.
No, I'm extremely straight, but you know.
She wasn't.
She wasn't.
They went to own supermarkets together.
There you go.
That part.
Okay.
I'm here today to be Lav's higher self.
Okay.
The beret really brings out the color of your.
The beret really brings out my personality.
That's exactly what I was about to say.
Okay.
Let's see here.
I have something for you, Mercedes.
So you said in your pre-show messages to us that you used to go out and party every weekend with your friends and that they would hook up and have sex with multiple guys a night, sometimes within meeting them for only a few minutes.
And your friends would try to get you to do the same thing.
Yeah.
But you said you remained virgin until meeting your boyfriend.
Can you speak a little bit about that?
Were you going out to IV here to party or was this back in Slow?
No, it was like the pretty much the frats in Slow.
Okay, the Frat Parties in Slow.
Or just like any house party in the Slow County area.
And just I've never, I'm kind of not too much friends with the people anymore, but I've never seen someone just like meet somebody and automatically like go to a bedroom.
Like that was like crazy to me.
I grew up Christian, so I was not, I don't know, I've never been in this world like that.
And so it was crazy to see.
And I just thought it was gross.
So you're not into hookup culture?
No, I'm not.
I think it's.
There's just no need.
I don't know.
Sorry.
I'm just changing it up.
Okay.
But so you witnessed your friends.
And when you say friends, like how many of your, like most of your friend group, was there one or two girls in particular that would go to these parties and like hook up?
Most of my friend group.
If they didn't have boyfriends that were already there and they're hooking up in a different room, then it was all, it was all my friends.
All your friends.
I was.
Like count how many of your friends would have sex with multiple guys a night.
Multiple guys a night.
Yeah.
5, 10, 15.
No, I mean. 3, 4.
I wouldn't go with that many people to a party.
It was probably like four.
Well, to any given party, but maybe you had new friends circle into the group or.
And maybe you witnessed not girls who are your friends, but you saw other girls at the party like doing this.
Oh, then, yeah, like seeing other people do it too.
like at least hold on just underscore x donated $100 and 69 cents bricks and I can't believe this betrayal Elizabeth, the offer for the opera still stands, but we gotta go to Venice also.
Is your family involved in the snake?
What is the snake?
What is the snake?
Elizabeth.
What's the snake?
The opera?
I'm so excited.
to bring you to the opera you i mean you said you used to play violin so what if he takes you to like a orchestra you know he takes you what was like a good uh like a bach piano concerto maybe a legends of zelda soundtrack Something like that.
Game of Thrones.
Oh, yes.
Game of Thrones.
Orchestra.
You know what?
Instead of opera, how about Alexander Hamilton the play?
That's a good one.
Yes.
Broadway.
Broadway.
Do you have a response?
Elizabeth.
I trust you guys.
Wait, so, but he's.
Do you accept his invitation to the opera in Venice?
Does a Venice have a fucking symphony?
I'm guessing.
I'm saying if he would offer it, then it must exist.
It's Italy.
They probably have it.
Can you do like a research and make sure it's like real?
Like, I don't want to be kidnapped.
What do you mean?
The guy?
No, as in like the location.
Oh, the location?
Well, let's disregard the location.
Do you accept his invitation assuming that the, you know, assuming that it's legit?
If it's legit, I will accept the invitation, I guess.
Yeah.
Okay.
By the way, so he is, I am familiar with who this guy is.
His name's Victor.
And he did save me from a bear once.
I should let you know.
That's very impressive.
We were camping.
He's a bad ZX.
He's like kind of a friend of mine.
So one time we were camping, there's a bear, and he saved me from a bear.
He saved you from a bear.
He saved me from a bear.
How?
Like, what did he do?
Well, so we were camping, and there was like we were actually with, there was like some girls camping with us, and they left out some Doritos.
And the bears are attracted to the food nocturnally, so the bear got into the food.
And so the bear rummaging through the camp, and he like jumps out of the tent and like fucking like scares the bear off.
What if it was a brown bear that would like attack you if you tried to like boom, you know, like Victor is ready to die to defend his homies?
That's a goddamn bro right there.
He's a bro.
He's the guy you need to try to preen up with.
So Elizabeth, he will definitely he's capable of protecting you from bears.
Okay.
I can vouch for that.
Are you down to date Victor and have his babies and marry him?
The guy that's got him.
And not sign away with him.
Not sign a preen up with him, though.
Are you down?
Not have babies and married, but like I'm down for a date, I guess.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
I'm down for a bunch of people.
Okay, cool.
But not like I have babies and married for now.
sure for sure okay um so bringing it back to you uh how many how many of your friends were hooking up with multiple what's the most amount of guys that one of your friends hooked up with in the night Three?
Four?
More?
Give me like two seconds.
Yeah, yeah.
Four.
One of your girlfriends.
One of your girlfriends hooked up with four guys in one night.
Yeah.
It's like, it's insane.
Like, go from one, and then I'm like, hey, like, let's leave.
They're like, hold on.
And they start making out with another person.
And then they just go in the bathroom, go into the room, do it on the couch.
Like, anything.
So you believe they actually had sex with multiple guys?
Maybe they were just doing drugs.
No.
No.
I walk in every time.
Oh, shit.
Sound like a thing you last knew.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, why are you locking in on them?
Did they get tested?
That's just what I think is ridiculous, is the not getting tested.
Does she use a condom?
No.
Oh, shit.
Why?
I don't even thought she was on birth control.
She just got lucky every single time.
That's a yikes.
That is a yikes.
But it's not just one of your friends that's doing this.
It's multiple of your friends.
If they see this, are they going to be upset with you?
I mean, I know you're not naming them, but.
I can hear my phone buzzing already.
Wait, if you were single.
Wait, okay.
First and foremost, like who you surround yourself with, the five closest people to you is like where you're moving in your future.
So absolutely.
With love and kindness, because you seem like such a great girl.
What the fuck?
I know.
No, I've moved on.
I have.
I've moved on from that because it's just not something I it doesn't match up with my beliefs.
Like I said, like I'm Christian.
I'm not hardcore by the book.
Also, like yeah, but I love God and I'm just not gonna stay around that.
So now like my core, my like five core, she waited, one of my friends waited until she was also after 18.
And so that's what I did too.
I waited till I was after 18.
Yeah.
Because I can't really give consent be low 18.
So do any of you guys have similar stories to this?
Have you witnessed any of your friends just like putting up numbers at like a party?
Just like jumping from dude to dude to dude?
No.
I wouldn't say that crazy.
No, I don't.
Not four dudes, like maybe two dudes in the night.
No, just literally, like I have.
I've hooked up one with one guy.
You know what I mean?
One guy when you go out per night.
Yeah.
One guy per night.
Yeah.
Okay, let's change.
So we can.
If any girls here at the table, either you or a friend has, in a 24-hour period, hooked up with two dudes within the 24-hour period.
Anybody here?
I haven't.
I haven't.
I'm just, I'm just, you know, I'm prompting them to raise their hand.
not but i have friends who have i mean i don't know about actually yeah sex wise and it They were just belligerently drunk and very young and just immature and not in their right mind.
Like just a very immature mindset and just extremely drunk.
Have y'all never just been to parties?
Never?
You've never seen that.
No, not like that now.
This is normal.
I've seen that shit go down at parties.
Like a girl, like a dude will hook up with a couple chicks.
A girl will hook up with a I don't know.
My friends are not really drama.
So like I feel like if something like that happened, that would be instigating drama.
Like you're going to deal with crying girls and being like, I would like him and he's sleeping with her.
I think besides that, like if we see one of our friends being super drunk and moving out to you, doing something that they might regret, we might be like, let's go.
Yeah.
Definitely, yeah.
But none of my friends have actually hooked up with multiple people on the same night.
Okay.
I feel like I would talk to my friends if they were doing that.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Especially because if they're drunk, are you sure this is what you want to do?
I don't know.
Are you actually into it?
Not like I'm trying to control people, but like, you know.
Exactly.
Creative safe space.
Safety.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the friend of yours who did four guys in the night, would you say that if you had to like rate her on a scale of one to ten, or I mean, you could do binary.
You could just say if she was attractive, not attractive, or not.
That's crazy.
I was actually talking with my friends last night.
We were hanging out in the hot tub.
And we were talking about rating people.
We rated her, actually.
She's, I mean, from five being average, she's like a seven and eight.
Like, she's, she's not just average.
She's a good one.
But I feel like during that situation, the rating doesn't really matter because everyone is like drunk and hooked up.
Absolutely.
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean?
So it doesn't matter if she was seven or ten.
What matters is like there were like multiple drunk people and they just wanted to hook up.
More like that.
Because I've seen people go down, like, you know, kind of like lower their standards when they're drunk.
She did that.
Yeah, she did.
Well, I think the difference is, though, like a girl who's average or even below average in terms of her physical appearance could pretty, I think pretty easily sleep with a couple dudes a night if she wanted to.
Any girl could probably sleep with anyone.
There is never a girl who's going to die.
I don't imagine by choice.
I mean, other than by choice.
It's not hard to find sex.
It's just, it's not.
As a girl.
I felt girls.
I felt like I was meant.
There's so many people in the world.
If you go out on the street, though, I think it's easier for girls to get late.
It is.
It's easier, but I'm saying, like, I lost my virginity when I was 20 because I felt like if I didn't have sex then, I would never have sex.
And I literally, like, I had a boyfriend and we were like together for like three months and we never like did anything.
And I like basically was like, all right, we're doing this because like I just can't go through life without going past this like wall.
By the way, we're twins.
I lost my virginity at 22.
Let's go.
So did I.
Oh, damn.
Let's go.
I think the difference is, though, is that for, I'd say almost any woman, if she was so inclined, well, for starters, could certainly get laid pretty much any night she wants.
But I'd say to bring it forward even, any girl could, almost any girl could probably sleep with two, three, four guys in the night.
Whereas for a guy to be able to do that, you gotta be like, you gotta be, I'd say pretty good looking or have some like pretty serious kids.
I don't think any boy can sleep with any girl.
I think some men will totally divergence.
Because like if you walk, there's so much more like, if you were a girl, you walked up to a guy on the street, I think you guys did that video one time, and you're like, do you want to come have sex with me?
They would look up.
They would probably be like, okay, right now, okay, let's go.
And then a boy did that.
They'd be like, get away from me.
You freak out.
Yeah, totally.
I feel like when it comes to girls, girls can get easily late, but I think it's harder for girls to find a guy who's willing to have a relationship with her.
I feel like for guys, it's more, they have a harder time getting late, but they have an easier time once they find a girl to get into a relationship.
Erroneous.
Disavow.
I disagree.
I mean, I think they both kind of, especially in today, I think one follows the other.
If you have difficulty getting laid, you're going to have difficulty getting a relationship.
I think women have the advantage in both realms, both getting sex and getting a relationship.
I think where women have trouble when it comes to getting a relationship, it's getting a relationship from the guy you want.
Well, besides that, I also feel like a guy who's getting late is also a guy who's not really ready to settle down and have a relationship because he's like, oh, I'm getting late, so I can probably get late multiple times.
Why commit?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But I feel like for a guy, though, let's just say you found a girl who is able, you able to get laid with her, right?
And you able to talk.
I feel like a lot more girls are actually willing to commit and have a relationship compared to guys.
So I feel like if a guy is ready and he finds a girl who's willing to sleep with him and just pay him attention, they could potentially build a relationship.
Wait, you think, can you repeat that first part?
You think that it's easier for, sorry, repeat the first part of that?
I forgot.
You said it's harder.
Fuck, I don't know if you're not.
I'll try to say it.
So for girls, for ladies, it is easier to get laid.
It's easy for ladies to have sex.
It is harder for them to find someone who's ready to settle down and have a relationship with.
Okay.
Okay.
For a guy, if you are ready to settle down and have a relationship with, you can find a girl who's ready to sleep with you and have a relationship.
That's true, I feel like.
I'm not so sure about that.
Here's why.
I'm not so sure about that.
Well, of course, because majority of the guys probably would not want to settle down if they're able to get late multiple times, right?
Like a guy who is able to get late every week with a different girl is probably not going to be able, not want to settle down and stuff like that.
But if a guy does want to settle down, he can go, find a girlfriend, get late, and also be able to manage to build a relationship with that girl.
Because more girls are willing to have relationships.
Than men.
I agree.
I'm actually not sure if that's true.
I think there's plenty of men that are very prepared to have relationships.
I just think a lot of women overlook a lot of men.
And I think a lot of women are looking at a pretty high tier of men and disregarding average guys.
Well, hold on.
Are you talking about online dating or IRL?
Because that plays a role.
Well, yes, there are certainly differences between online dating and IRL.
But for example, if you look at online dating, which is actually how most people are actually meeting nowadays, they've released some statistics on this.
And I think the majority of relationships originated online.
So whether that's a dating app or meeting through Instagram, whatever it may be, Instagram's kind of a dating app.
But it's not clear to me that men have an easier time getting relationships.
Perhaps the top 20, top 10% of men, they could easily get a relationship.
But I think a lot of them don't have the incentive because that category of men, that cohort of men, as you said, it's fairly relatively easy for them to get laid.
So when it comes to online dating, I think we have to be a little bit more careful because when you look at online dating, there's actually more men using it compared to women.
So there is a very small pool of women who are actually using online dating to find partnership.
And typically, those small percentage of women are willing to swipe right to a very small percentage of men.
Just hold on just to $79.
Would you be interested in a guy who looks in his 20s but is actually in his 40s?
Just, I guess, I don't know who this is directed to if you all want a yes or no answer.
Definitely.
Yeah, sure.
I had sex with this guy who was like 36, and he looked like he was late 20s, and I would so do it again.
Actually, an older guy that looks younger, for sure.
I know who Jesse is, for sure.
Jesse's famous.
He's Jesse Hyman.
He's the world's greatest extra.
He kissed Bar Raphael and they called Daddy Jesse Hyman.
But what do you think about that from Bay and Bad?
You can type in like a you can type in.
He's talking in chat.
I see him.
Oh.
Well, I guess confirm or deny.
In any case, thank you, Jesse, for that TTS.
Much appreciated, man.
So you were saying.
Oh, yeah.
So those pool of women actually swipe right to one percentage of men because those one percentage of men are considered to be better looking, probably have more, you know, well-written down bios and etc.
Because again, majority of the time when it comes to online dating, you're judging them off profile, what they look like.
That's why a very small percentage, 1% of men actually get swiped right.
And majority of men actually get lost in the online dating, which is true.
So when it comes to online dating, you have to work on your profile picture.
You have to actually work on your bio because that's what you're based off.
But if that doesn't work out, then you should try IRL.
Well, I mean, it depends what dating app, but I mean, I think Tinder, I think, I think actually women are pickier when it comes to physical appearance than men are.
Yeah, I agree.
Again, but again, when you actually have only the physical attraction to base everything off of, of course, you're going to choose that.
But I mean, that kind of just reinforces that women, women are, even though you say women are more desirous of relationships, well, then they're, why do they continue to keep chasing after this like top five, top 10% of men on the dating apps?
Because they believe they can settle them down.
That they can finally want, that they can change them.
Exactly.
But even women know that a lot of these guys are fuckboys or whatever the term is.
You would hope so.
But I feel like a lot of ladies, especially at the young age, might be a little immature, might have, well, lacking experience when it comes to dating, not really aware of what people really like.
Well, I think a lot of people, and me personally, being one of these people.
Get to the mic.
I think a lot of females don't realize that they're actually the emotionally unavailable one, which is why they attract emotionally unavailable men.
Me being one of the people who had to look myself in the mirror and be like, wow, why is this weird?
Why are things like this coming up?
And I'm like, oh, shit.
Literally, it's because I was the emotionally unavailable one because I was always like looking for the next best thing or looking for something else or intrigued and trying to go find something else and da da da.
So yeah.
So you're saying you were looking for something besides a relationship.
Because with an immature mindset, you're constantly looking for the next best thing.
Whether that's of a superficial point where it's like a financial means where it's like, can I do better?
I mean, that's a very immature mindset.
I agree.
Yeah.
Instead of looking for a person that's going to fit perfectly with your life.
And that's why I got out of my five-year relationship is because I constantly, I started looking for the next best thing, even though I had everything, you know, pretty much.
Yeah, and so that is like an emotionally unavailable mindset.
It's in LA, everyone's out here to advance in very superficial careers, and you're constantly looking to find an opportunity to become the next best thing.
So typically, how you do one thing is to say, ladies, what are your thoughts on women who use retroactive consent?
Okay, that's a doozy.
Basically, okay, what he's define it.
Yeah.
I mean, basically, I think what he's getting at is a woman consents and then later she regrets it.
Either the guy was a jerk or there was some social fallout from hooking up with the guy, so she's trying to.
So she consented in the moment, but then she regrets it or she wants she's vindictive because whatever the guy didn't want to keep seeing her, whatever it may be.
I mean, the alcohol and other things.
Yeah, I was about to say, as long as she's sober, if she's consenting while she's sober, then going back on that, at that point, it's like.
Yeah.
You can rip consent away while in the action, absolutely.
If you say yes and then you don't like it and you say no, they should stop.
But after you've already done it and then weeks, years, months go by, and then you're like, no, they did this and I didn't want it to happen.
Like, I think that's what I'm saying.
The only factor that changes that is age.
That's it.
Yeah.
Because an immature, if the brain is not fully developed and you think you want it, If the brain is not fully developed, if it's a younger, like let's say it's a young girl or something and there's an older man trying to basically hook up with her and she's she's into it and your brain isn't fully what's the problem?
You're talking about an adult woman, right?
No, a young woman.
So the brain typically dating woman, that's an adult.
It doesn't matter.
She's 18 and over.
So you're saying like a 19 year old who's dating like a 27 year old?
It doesn't matter.
I think whatever, and I don't have the exact age, but there's an age where 25 where so women under 25 can't consent to sex?
No, I think that legally, if they're still consenting to it, legally, if they feel, let's say like years down the line, they're like, huh, why am I feeling some sort of emotion around this interaction with this person?
I hooked up with this person.
Why do I feel weird about it?
It feels yucky.
It's because typically when you're under the age of 25, your brain isn't fully developed.
Therefore, you may have felt a certain way in that moment, but as you grow older and your mindset changes and you have a mature brain, you can actually feel a different way.
Well, you can, okay, you can feel a different way, but...
But it's legally still, it's still legal.
Like, you can't.
Okay, yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
But that's the only factor that I feel would change it.
Yeah, but I mean, hold on, hold on.
I mean, you're making it about age, but isn't it plausible that someone could hook up with someone and have been totally into it, and then maybe they date for three months, everything's totally chill, but then there's some gnarly breakup, and then you obviously regret having been involved with this person because it's like based on my own experience.
So I'll just be very blunt, sure.
So you did like a 70-year-old when you were.
No, no, no.
So I was, I want to say 18 or 19, and I didn't have sex with the person at all.
But I was still legal, but the person was 40s or something, and we made out and stuff like that.
And I was completely fine.
I was like, wow, this is so great.
Like at the time, like, he's so like, da-da-da.
And then years later, I was like, wow, why am I like crying?
Why am I crying around this situation?
Why does it like feel yucky and feel weird?
And I'm like, huh.
And I did research and I realized that the brain is fully, whatever, done developing at 25.
And I'm like, huh, why am I feeling so emotional around this, you know, when I did consent to it and I did feel okay at the time?
But I do feel like I was taken advantage of.
But this doesn't make sense because I was okay with it.
And so then I had to look at the facts and look at science and I'm like, hmm, maybe that's why.
So that's all I'm saying.
I'm not sitting here and saying that's correct or incorrect, but I'm just kind of giving my experience.
Okay.
But you years later felt uncomfortable by the situation.
Correct.
Okay.
I mean, you're entitled to feel uncomfortable with the situation down the road.
I mean, his question was something very specific when it comes to retroactive.
I mean, that'd be like you basically like down the road, you were there was consent in the moment, but like for whatever reason, you retroactively.
Okay, anyways, let's move on.
that's the same thing right well I mean I'm saying like because I don't feel like I do feel like in a sense I was taken advantage of because I was so young I was 18 years old and I was so young and this guy groomed me He knew what he was saying.
He knew what he needed to do to make me feel some type of way.
I do feel like I was groomed.
At 19?
At 18 years old.
I do feel like I was groomed in a sense.
And because it doesn't make sense that I would feel so emotional about that situation.
Like, why?
I mean, grooming usually is like in the context of like children.
Let me help you understand this situation more.
I was getting into modeling.
He's a photographer.
He's very has a high status in that area.
Oh, so this is like casting couch shit.
So it's like, well, it's not porn.
No, but it's like a couch.
But it's like he took, he abused his power in a sense.
But I consented.
So like, I can't sit here and take it back because legally speaking, it was legal, right?
But I feel funky about it.
So what could be the common denominator or the factor that is creating that?
I mean, I suppose.
Maybe my brain's not fully developed.
And like, so that's just a personal experience.
And I'm like, because if you think about it, what else would it be?
That's weird.
Why am I feeling like I didn't fully consent?
Like, I wasn't in my, I feel like it wasn't like.
Well, you consented.
Right, but like, but I think you're not wrong for feeling if he was using the fact that he's this established photographer and he was perhaps misleading you.
Like he was like, oh, come hang out because I want to shoot with you.
And then he starts like hitting on you.
I think that's kind of scummy.
But now at this age, though, and like being, and maybe it's not even an age thing.
But I don't know if he did that.
Maybe it's not even an age thing.
But now looking back at it, like I don't feel like I was the person I am today would have made that decision.
And so maybe it's age.
So you think the age of consent should be increased?
No, I'm not trying to debate any of that.
I'm just telling you my personal experience.
Are you saying that women shouldn't vote until 25?
Wow, Julia, that's really sexist of you.
I know I came here with that Burt.
Is it Beret?
I came here with that Beret, but like I'm not on that team currently.
Yo, everybody in the chat say that Julia is a raging misogynist.
How dare you want to rage the age that women can vote at to 25?
You should run as a politician and that's your platform.
Women can only vote.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, what?
Jesus.
Okay, that was an interesting one.
So we have something here from, let's see, wait.
Doc Vanablis.
Can you read this one, Elizabeth?
Okay.
Elizabeth, would Brian have to convert to Catholism?
Brian, can you name three Catholic saints?
Catholism?
Isn't it Catholicism?
It's okay.
I'll excuse you.
It's okay.
I couldn't get three of you.
I'll give you a pass.
Can you make it?
Three Catholic saints.
Is this to me?
Oh, yeah, this is to me.
Three Saint Petersburg?
St. Patrick?
Aunt Jemima?
I don't know.
Hell no.
All right.
I'm not Catholic.
So, okay, we got Nape Snake.
Good evening, everyone.
Longtime fan supporting the stream.
What's everyone take on Adam 22?
Oh, good question.
From No Jumper Being a Cuck.
Oh, okay.
Do you all agree he should have allowed his girl to do a scene with another man?
Lastly, we need another protest troll picket sign video.
Eric, can you Google the video?
Actually, I don't think we can show the video with Alina and the dude coming into frame.
I don't think it's...
I'll look at it on my stream to see if it's kind of...
No, I don't think it's inappropriate.
It was on Twitter.
It was completely different.
I mean, you can put inappropriate stuff on Twitter.
Lena.
Hold on.
Twitter.
I can't let it.
Lena video, Adam 22.
Okay, so just to give the panel the context, Adam 22, host of No Jumper, YouTuber creator, whatever.
He's married.
They do like OnlyFans, him and his wife.
They do scenes with other women, but they've never done a, she's never done a scene with another guy, at least while they've been together.
He allowed his now wife to do a scene, a adult scene, with another dude.
Your thoughts on this?
I think the unique thing about it is he claimed that he didn't want her to do it originally.
And then right after marriage, a couple weeks after that, she did it.
So I think that's the controversial thing about it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's for them to define what their boundaries are in their relationship.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, if as long as they're comfortable and they're happy and they feel like they're secure in the relationship, more power to them.
Make your own choices.
Don't let everybody else define it for you.
Yeah, people change their opinions.
Like Adam might have changed his opinion about who his wife can sleep with.
They obviously have an open relationship.
They have a very specific podcast where, you know, they can sleep with other people.
I don't think creating content though necessarily means you have an open relationship because that's part of your like job and creating content.
Down just a tad.
Turn it down.
Tilt it down.
No, no, no, just back.
Pull it up.
There you go.
Go ahead.
You're good.
You're good.
All right.
I don't think creating content means you have an open relationship.
How would it not?
Well, he doesn't.
It's not where it's like.
If you're having sex with other people in a relationship and you both are like okay, it's not for personal pleasure.
It's for a monetary gain.
But that's the whole thing about open relationships.
It's like you have a relationship with someone, but then you can have sex with others.
It's more of a just sex.
It's no feelings attached.
Exactly.
Right.
But then that's not an open relationship.
No, it's not.
Like an open relationship, I would say, is you're having like you're taking personality into account.
You know, you're having feelings with other people as well.
Like if I do something with Taylor and we.
And it's just content.
It's just content.
I'm not in a relationship.
I don't call her my girlfriend.
I'm not thinking about her in the middle of the night being like, damn.
I mean, maybe I might think of Victoria in the morning.
I don't know.
We still are getting pleasure out of it, though.
I don't know.
I mean, having sex with other people.
Usually the fact that they're doing it for money is the reason why it's for women's.
But if I agree, my boyfriend, me and him, monogamous.
But if there's another guy who's just like, I'll pay $20 to have sex with me, I have sex with him.
That's cheating.
There's different contexts for that.
I mean, but I guess, but it's still like, they would have gone into a relationship already knowing each other's boundaries.
I'm sure they're careers.
And I'm sure there was much discussion with them.
With Lena and Adam, they actually were pretty open about, you know, Elena's actually saying that she's bisexual.
She's actually interested in girls.
So I think for them, when they actually do content, there's actually emotions and feelings involved.
That would be for them to say.
I don't think we can say that.
Well, they actually did, I think, speak about it on their podcast and stuff like that.
So I think in their definition, it would be technically considered an open.
I mean, it's not surprising to me that Adam was okay with his wife doing that.
I mean, Adam does, he's in the adult content business.
They both do that sort of content.
So, I mean, you have to have, to some degree, fairly progressive views on relationship dynamics.
I don't have anything against Adam, his life, his decision.
Me personally, I would 100% not be okay with my wife having sex with another dude.
Right, and that's 100% of you and your.
I don't care how much money you're going to make.
I don't care.
I'm not letting my wife.
Would you want to do things with another girl, though?
Yeah, why not?
Would you dare?
Would you date a friendly girl?
Damn, Brian.
Would you wife up a girl who has a laugh?
Well, I can be, here's the thing.
I could be monogamous, but I'm not going to sit here in line and be like, if my wife was 100% okay with me and she remained strictly loyal to me, but if she was okay with me sleeping with other women, I'm not going to sit here in line and be like, no, I would never.
I feel like majority of girls would probably say that, to be honest.
Yeah, I mean, well, I think a lot of guys might lie about that, but I think most men, like, if your wife would not leave you and would be totally okay with you having like a what's the a gouma?
I'm thinking of the Sopranist term.
What's the term for not your wife?
There's a specific term for it.
Concubine?
No, not concubine.
Mistress.
Thank you, mistress.
If your wife is okay with you having a mistress, like, yeah, why not?
Apparently, I'm Tom Sandoval's mistress.
Who the fuck is that?
Raquel, yeah.
Yeah, apparently I am.
No, no, no, not Rapel.
They're looking for a Julia.
Never mind.
They're looking for a Julia.
You got to speak into the mic if you want people to hear you.
We're looking for a, what show is it even from?
The Vanderpump Roller.
Are you going to do something to your dog right now?
Why are you putting your hair in a ponytail?
Oh, I was just like feeling it.
Oh, okay.
Because normally when someone puts a hair tie into their hair.
Okay.
I'm like, no, I'm kidding.
So we're going to try and chill out.
Wait, so okay, hold on.
Wait, so were you going to say something?
I was going to say that something about consent and thing, but then I think we're talking about the Adam 22 thing.
Adam Torrent.
Oh, like, would you actually date a woman and then potentially marry her if she were to do adult content?
Yeah, okay.
So I mean, I've answered this before quite a few times.
I'm starting to actually think about changing my answer to this.
Should I previously, I said I'd be okay dating a girl who did OF so long as she's never done content with other men.
That was my previous answer, although after some recent experiences with, do you guys see that feather?
What the?
You see that little feather?
I did.
I did see that.
I'm starting, no offense to some of you guys here who do OnlyFans, but there's been a pattern of behavior from some of the OnlyFans girls we've had on the show, and you guys have been wonderful so far.
But I think I just would not, I'm starting to lean towards like, even if she's never done anything with a guy before on camera, I'm starting to lean towards I would not date a girl who has done OnlyFans, even if it was solo content.
My previous answer was if she's done solo content and never done anything with a guy, that's fine.
You didn't provide the reasoning.
Yeah, why wouldn't it be?
Yeah, what changed?
Because a lot of OnlyFans girls are very rude, one, very, very entitled to, very make so much money doing nothing that they have literally no sense of reality and just fucking rude and base fuck.
But like, I know I'm not any of that at all.
And I have an OnlyFans, and we've had very good interactions.
So I think not trying to say like, I don't think you can.
But what would be your reason together?
Well, you're done, Julia.
I mean, you've done content with your now boyfriend, so it's not.
No, I'm out.
Oh, that's over.
I just had to make sure I was out.
That was all.
It's donezo for us.
I was trying to friend zone you, Brian.
Friend zones, good times, good times.
So what was the question, though?
So what's your reasoning?
She provided her reason, but what's yours?
Why wouldn't you nowadays date an OF girl?
What changed?
Yeah, so I mean, well, first off, just kind of to touch on my previous answer, there's obviously a spectrum, right?
I mean, you can be OnlyFans.
There could be even no nudity.
It could be like lingerie shit.
Correct.
So all the way to like fucking bad dragons.
I don't know if you guys are like bad dragons.
It's like doing some like doing some like really kink related requests that might, you know.
Not that there's necessarily anything that I have anything against certain kinks, but like that's a, that's a, that's more than taking tasteful lingerie photos.
But I think it just, I don't know.
I've had some bad experiences recently with some OnlyFans girls, so it's left a bad taste in my mouth.
Not romantic, not romantic anything, but just like on this show.
Behavioral.
Behavioral and I think that Like unprofessional Unprofessional.
It's a value thing.
Their values are very different.
It's a little bit of a value thing.
I think that should come down to the people, though, and not that they're OF.
I kind of agree with that.
Yeah, I think it's the values.
Yeah.
Because there's some girls who are trust fun girls.
Correlation doesn't equate to causation, right?
And they haven't posted a taken a picture.
It may even still be virgins.
Yeah, it's also a perception thing, too.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, what's become apparent to me is like in the same way that women have a lot of options and you're going to pick the best option as a guy.
Why, if you have options as a guy, why pick a girl who does OnlyFans versus a girl who does who doesn't?
Because I don't think for most guys, OnlyFans is it can be in neutral, but I don't think it's ever going to be like, oh, a girl has an OnlyFans.
That's a pro.
Now, perhaps the money you make from it might be, I think a lot of guys don't, if I can be honest, frankly, don't care about a woman's income.
I agree.
Most men don't.
I agree about that, but I disagree about the fact that they don't care if a girl is an OnlyFans.
I dated this guy who was really about it.
Like he wanted to make content with me.
I never made content with him, but he wanted to make content.
Well, sure.
There's definitely guys out there that will certainly will and do date women who he promoted it to me.
Like he's like, let's do this.
Like he was excited.
Sure, but I mean.
I mean, that's also a low keyway.
People try and get in, like, hey, baby, you want to collab?
And they have like one follower.
Well, it's just almost a question of optimizing.
And I'm not trying to like this.
No, it's being logical.
It's just optimizing your potential partner.
So in the same way, like everything being equal, would you rather date a guy who makes $100,000 or a guy who makes $1 million, everything being equal, you're going to pick the guy that makes $1 million, same way as would you rather date a woman who doesn't have OnlyFans, doesn't have her moods.
Unfortunately, love and feelings are not logical.
And it's not based off of a factual thing.
But I will say that being somebody who does have an OnlyFans and being in a very healthy relationship, the pros of having an OnlyFans, I have become so much more in touch with my sexuality.
Like my boyfriend is beyond in heaven with sex, like for sure.
He's huh?
Beyond in heaven.
He's beyond in heaven with sex.
I also feel like it also too, like makes you like more aware of other people's personal space and what people have like boundaries.
Like you have to have that kind of communication with somebody in order to create content with others.
And you bring that to all your relationships because you become mentally aware of so many things that people are comfortable with.
I don't necessarily think you have to do OnlyFans to be aware of that, but I see what you mean.
It helps, you generally think about it.
You see a different side of people through OF that you wouldn't see otherwise.
Like I have people who seem normal and they'll come into my chat and then they'll come to my OnlyFans and it's like, oh, so you're like this, all right?
But I will say that I have met a lot of OnlyFans girls and I think you're got you're like if we were to group it and like think of on average, yeah, I would not, as a guy, would not date the average stereotype of an OnlyFans girl.
I would not either.
However, I'm not most OnlyFans girls.
Yeah, and then through my actions, it's very like loud and clear.
Yeah, and I don't think that every single, like obviously there's there's some OF girls that are fucking hustlers that are like gonna play dudes or they're gonna be that they might have certain dark triad personality traits.
I don't think that's you could be like a super cool, like even you know low body count girl with a OnlyFans.
I mean, there's some girls who claim virgin OnlyFans.
I mean, it's sure.
I'm sure I'm sure it's the case.
The first time I did put like the first time anyone had ever seen a nude photo of me was on OnlyFans.
But did you start out doing OnlyFans first or did you do other things before you did OnlyFans?
I've done, I've been, the reason why I started it was because I needed to make enough money to move to Los Angeles.
But were you doing like content before that?
I think that makes a difference because like we're Twitch streamers and then we progress from doing Twitch to creating OnlyFans content because the audience is there.
Exactly.
So it's kind of different.
Exactly.
When you start out like just platform, so I was like, I need to monetize this and to be able to move and start the life that I'm going to be doing.
Right.
I think that's a little bit of the difference when there's somebody who just does OnlyFans and they're an OnlyFans girl.
Right.
I'm not like, oh my God, I want to be on Pornhub.
Like I want to go like, that's my goal in life.
It's not like, you know, not a dig at OnlyFans girls in general, but just like, I think it's different when you're starting off being a content creator from a different platform and then transitioning.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I think the other thing, too, is that if you want to have children, there's a concern there.
I don't.
So I mean, if you're not going to be able to do that.
I mean, have you seen them meme about the girl saying like, my kids can just cry in a Ferrari?
I was like, bitch, like, true, but like, that's fucked up.
I mean, my.
I had this whole conversation with my aunt.
She's a private investigator.
Oh, hold on just a sec.
The offender donated $99.
The thing about some of girls is that they fail to consider that if they have a child, they think it will not impact that child.
I mean... I don't think that's a fair take.
No, we are aware that there's going to be consequences we'll have to face, but you know, and we will face those consequences once that will actually come to be.
As humans, I'll make all kinds of choices, good choices, bad choices, everything like that.
Everything has a consequence, yeah.
Trying to say that because you're an OnlyFans person, that that's going to be the one thing that your kid's just going to like be like, like hold on to, yeah, no.
Like, there could be abusive home or like all kinds of things that could be so negative in their life.
Like, I don't think like you could just.
I think it's so funny, though, like, honestly, like, how there's people who go out there and will sleep with like 10 people in one night, and then a girl will post like a nude photo on them.
Actually, you do things behind closed doors.
And at least this person is real and can actually be good.
They are not exposing your child to that.
You're not like, but I'm sharing your social media with them and forcing them to look at your photos and everything like that.
That's just not going to happen.
Okay, men don't want either of those.
No, but I'm actually thinking about that.
No, but I know what you're saying.
I'm thinking about men, but I'm not saying in regards to what men want.
Well, I know what you're saying.
Like, a girl who doesn't have OnlyFans, she could have like a sordid past, like, super high body count, and like meet a new guy, and the guy might not be privy or aware of, like, how promiscuous she previously was, whereas like he might compare that girl to a girl who does OnlyFans who slept with one guy and be like, no, no, no, to the OnlyFans girls versus the girl who's like slept with 100 men.
Ron, let's be honest.
Like, majority of your viewers will probably still value the girl who doesn't have OnlyFans as higher compared to a girl who has OnlyFans.
Wouldn't you agree?
I have a feeling that majority of your viewers most likely will sell value the girl who doesn't have OnlyFans, but me.
It has 100 body count.
Hi, body count.
Let's not say Hannah.
That's ridiculous.
I don't know because a lot of these viewers have it.
A lot of these viewers are keeping my lights on.
I mean, if the choice is between a girl who has a body count of 100 and doesn't have OnlyFans versus a girl who does have OnlyFans, but she's been with one guy.
That's a fight.
That's shitty either way, but like I think I'd in that scenario if those are the only two options I have I think I'd prefer the goal the girl with only fans 100% but again that's a select amount of girls because majority of the girls how they are on OnlyFans is what actually what they are in real life and they're not just select choosing to be that girl with some guy.
Yeah.
But there are girls like that.
I think the difference between OnlyFans though and just like having sex is there's like I'm gonna say like a high number like 200,000 people that have seen your guys' like naked body and maybe only like the girl who has 100 body counts 20 body counts even like that's only 20 people.
But do you think there's a difference between somebody seeing your naked body versus somebody having an experience?
There's a difference, but it's like there's actually that.
Like what's sacred?
One is a businesswoman and the other one is giving it out for free.
That's how I see it.
Well, yeah.
They're both bad.
They're both like when you wear a slim center bag.
There's also a lot of girls on OnlyFans.
Sorry.
Hold on one at a time.
Go ahead.
There's also a lot of girls on OnlyFans who don't like show certain parts of their body and are doing.
But I get what you're saying completely.
Again, it's just kind of like the whole open relationship thing or whatever.
Like they're doing it for work.
So it's really just a perception and a mindset thing.
And if I was a man, honestly, I'd probably be Brian's views on it.
Like I completely understand it.
However, like, like I said, there's a select girl, select percentage of girls who are not actually the OnlyFans girl.
Yeah, but also everyone has this mindset, like how you're saying that all girls like do the same shit on OnlyFans or like they do porn.
Like my homepage is not nude.
It's mostly just like lingerie cosplay.
It's perception though.
It's like it's just a perception.
Yeah, that's what I think if you have an OnlyFans, people are going to just assume what this is.
I mean, I think the other reason why I think men can be hesitant when it comes to OnlyFans, you are to some degree deriving validation from somebody else.
So you're receiving male attention from these dudes on OnlyFans.
And that sort of like lessens the attention that your partner is going to give you.
Like you're fulfilling your need for male attention and male validation through these other ways.
So the attention that you get from your partner is kind of diminished to some degree.
So I mean, there's no point.
No, no, no.
I actually disagree with you, Brian, because I think you are putting the same value when it comes to both types of validation.
I think like sometimes we as humans, we probably weigh the validation from our parents, from our husbands, boyfriends higher than from strangers.
Wouldn't you agree so?
But you're saying they're on the same level.
And because we receive so much attention from random men, that the attention that we get from our husband and boyfriend is going to be valued less.
But again, the only reason you're saying this is because you're weighing them on the same level.
But I disagree with you.
Yeah, I disagree.
Well, I don't think it's on the same level necessarily, but it's on the scale somewhere.
So, yeah, you know.
All it does is make me more confident as a woman that I know like there's all these people out here who like find me attractive and would pay for my shit, but it doesn't diminish the value of someone who I'm actually interested in.
I mean, Look, at the end of the day, I mean, I think my two big arguments would be is that when given two options, the girl with OnlyFans, all things being equal, is a better option.
Men value sexual purity.
Men value innocence in women.
For sure.
No, not all men.
Sure.
Okay, but generally speaking, men value sexual purity and innocence in women.
I feel like when it comes to wifing them up, I think they do.
Isn't that what you guys want?
Yeah, well, I think that's overjoyed.
But earlier you said that women desire relationships more than men.
So, I mean, wifing someone up, isn't that?
Well, cucks have wives.
Cucks have wives.
Honestly, I don't know what that woman is.
You have to be in a relationship to be a cook, right?
That's a huge alley.
Cucks have wives, meaning like, you know, cucks like for their women to be with other people.
But okay, the other thing, too, is.
It's a denial of something.
Also, just like if you do want to have kids, then you are subjecting your child to bullying.
So how would you solve that?
If you were married to an OnlyFans model and she had a kid, what kind of conversation would you have with your kid?
Why just that's if you look at if you look at things like, for example, a chessboard and you're like, okay, I'm going to make the best move possible.
Yeah, I'm pulling out, hold on, I'm pulling out the Andrew Tate here.
Hold on.
Let me see that I got it.
Take your time.
All right, we got the Andrew Tate's joining the panel.
Oh, James.
Sorry.
Marrying a girl who does OnlyFans is not an optimal move in life.
I mean, if it just happens, it just happens to happen.
Like, that's just how it works.
Love works in mysterious ways.
In any case, I don't foresee myself.
I just, again, it just comes down to optimum, suboptimal choices.
Answer that question.
What's the question?
Well, neither.
What would I do?
What would I do?
I would not be in the position to begin with.
But we don't always love and respect.
I don't think any of us have children, but we're always asked this hypothetical question.
It's a hypothetical question.
What would I do?
What would I do?
Yeah.
So, in a hypothetical situation, if you were to marry an OnlyFans girl and have a child with her, and that child's friends discovered your wife's OnlyFans and started bullying your child, what kind of conversation would you have with your child?
That's a tough one.
I mean, that's kind of like you deal with it, it's a bridge you cross when you have to cross it.
As a father, you're saying?
I'd be like, I'm sorry, your mom used to be.
You're not sexy.
Your mom used to be a hoe.
No, she's not a hoe.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Oh, she still does OF.
Okay, your mom is still a hoe.
I'm sorry.
I'm still a hoe.
She's still a hoe.
Me and your mom sometimes film us getting intimate, but we do it for your brighter future.
Would you say that?
So you can go to college for free.
It's paid for.
Yeah.
Mommy and daddy sometimes film their intimacy and we pay for your college money with that, you know, for your college degree with that money.
I don't think that.
Is that what you're going to say?
Honestly, wipe the fucking internet, scrub that shit, or don't have to.
You can't.
That's just permanent.
The internet is crazy.
I feel like you can delete it, but people download that shit.
It's going to get leaky.
I feel like just scrubbing.
Life is changing.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
You know, we used to have, for example, music.
You know, back then, music used to be better.
No, I was just saying the other day, like the 303 song, My First Kiss, I was like, ooh, this is so like racy.
And now it's like, oh, this is so simple.
We have songs talking about pussy and this and all.
I just feel like in today's day and age, everyone's doing things are changing.
As humans as our changing lives revolve around sex and being sexy and everything like that, I just think to this day and age, I think it's stupid.
I don't know, hot take.
It's just stupid that it's just like this and it's taboo.
It's stupid that it's taboo.
It's just what's taboo.
Like it's just everything.
It's sexualized.
But it was before, even always before.
It's haram.
Literally, women weren't allowed to show ankles before, bro.
Can you believe that?
These ankle.
Shit's haram.
Oh, God.
That's top chi.
It's haram.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
But, okay, how.
Here, let's hold on.
Let's do a couple chats here.
All right.
We have.
I'll pull that one up in a sec.
Hold on.
We have.
Joseph.
Thank you for the donation, man.
Dear ladies, what insights can we gleam from the interplay of physical desires and emotional connections?
How does the intimate dance of human sexuality shape our understanding of ourselves and the world around us?
Curiously, Joey.
What?
What?
does the intimate dance of human sexuality shape our understanding bro that's a i think he's trying to say can i mean having sex i think what he's trying to say is can having sex help you understand more about yourself and who you are as a person i mean yeah that's you get You can figure out if you're actually straight or not.
You can figure out who you're interested in, what your fetish type of things are.
So, yeah, it kind of makes you, you know, a little bit more aware about who you are and what you're interested in.
I feel like it helps you feel more in touch with yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That layer of yourself.
This is such a vague, nebulous question.
How does the intimate dance of human sexuality shape our understanding of ourselves and the world around us?
I think I'm just too stupid to understand your question.
There's so many ways that we could go with that.
That's like some advanced philosophy shit in college.
But thank you for the message, man.
Okay, we got bad ZXE here.
Teatro La Finice would be the opera house.
We would go see Cavaleria Rusticana.
I know.
And then I go to Taverna La Finice afterwards for dinner.
Brian, just forward Elizabeth my details.
Hopefully her family doesn't put a hit out on me.
Okay, all right.
There you go, Elizabeth.
That's cute.
All right.
Jesse Miller, thank you for the $69 tip.
Appreciate it, man.
First time watching live, just wanted to give a shout out and show some support.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Props to making good content.
Appreciate it, Brian.
Good stuff into the girls.
You've been a good panel so far.
Cheers.
Jesse Miller.
Hey, thank you, man.
Yeah, it's been a good panel, man.
Much appreciated.
It did pop up, though, the EXE one.
You saw it pop up, the one with the Venice.
It popped up.
Okay, just want to make sure it actually showed.
All right, we have Cheeks here.
Yo, Cheeks, thank you, man.
To the viewers in here, don't subscribe to these OF or streaming services.
They don't show you any real value and do not care, nor even will care for any of you, no matter the amount.
And no real man will ever want to be with an OF more.
But like, wow, okay, he's roasting.
Beaten cheeks, like, yeah, can you explain that?
He has never been bitten cheeks.
Oh, wow.
Shots fired.
Shots fired.
Sorry.
On that note, isn't it true that you, so four of you have OF.
I mean, you guys don't really, you guys don't really respond to your messages, do you?
You have like some person in like Kazakhstan writing.
I 100% respond to all my messages.
So you got to be able to do that.
You guys have a company online.
Grandmother's Grave, I respond to all of my messages.
So I think a lot of people are not really aware of how the business works.
But if you're a small individual, right?
And you actually don't have money to pay other people to do your job.
You actually respond to it.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
The majority of people cannot afford to be able to.
Just like if you're like, I'm not paying a management company.
Yeah.
I'm not doing that shit.
I just don't want someone else like posing as me and like talking to people.
And it's not actually me.
How do you ensure control at that point?
Exactly.
And I don't want to give someone my login.
Like, I don't, I talk a certain way and I talk a certain way to certain people.
So like they would know.
Also, we already take so much of a hit on Twitch.
Why would I want to give more to the money?
And on OF the platform, actually.
OF takes 20%?
20%?
20%.
20%.
Well, you can say that, but I mean, if it just frees up a whole bunch of your time to do other shit, I mean, it's kind of just the trade-off of paying someone to respond to your messages for you, and then you've just freed up all of your time.
Yeah.
And some of these things.
I think it's a very small minority of people who can actually afford to buy a management.
It's about to be the upper echelon.
But also, no one's going to be, I mean, if you're smart and actually have brain cells, no one's going to be able to maximize your business like you are.
Yes, exactly.
Especially for something like that.
Maybe there's like some dude out there who's just really good at fucking pretending to be a chick and like finessing the fuck out of these dudes, like sexting the dudes.
Is that you, Brandon?
Yes, I'm the guy typing for all these OF chicks.
You've caught me.
That's what I was doing a year ago.
But look, I don't think it's all, it's certainly not all OF girls who have like a management who's responding on their behalf.
But like, let's be real, there are definitely, and I don't think it's a small proportion of women who do have OnlyFans who are charging people to message back and forth.
And it's not actually them messaging.
It's like somebody doing it on their behalf.
I would say that there's some.
There's a lot.
I think it could even be you guys.
And you guys, obviously, you wouldn't admit to it if you were doing it.
Well, here's another thing.
I think when it comes to us, we also stream on Twitch.
And majority of us actually stream on Twitch for at least five to eight to 12 hours, right?
So we have a very intimate relationship with our viewers.
We actually respond to them directly on Twitch.
So I feel like they're way more familiar with us.
So if they did send something when it comes to OnlyFans chatting, like something was off.
It didn't sound like us.
They wouldn't text via what happened on the stream, too.
You'd have to be able to get it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And then Gorlock the Destroyer donated $100.
Thank you.
The OnlyFans girls all look like they have failed ASMR channels on YouTube.
I should start one.
I've actually never done it.
Mine is very successful.
I just started it.
Confirm or denied.
Any of you have a failed ASMR channel on YouTube?
No.
Should I start one on a YouTube channel?
Do these microphones?
Just to wrap up really quick.
Just to wrap up really quick on the OF stuff.
Sorry, friendly.
Yeah, friendly.
Just to wrap up on that.
I mean, the big thing, though, as far as it being a negative, if you ever, like, if you're thinking long-term with somebody, if you have kids with them, the kid, the potential that the kid gets fucking bullied is just not like avoid it.
It's better to avoid it by not dating someone who has OnlyFans.
Here's the deal: if you're so big as a friendly girl, right, that people recognize you and know who you are, probably at that point you can afford to provide the child with a private education.
So they don't.
You're not going to preclude them from bullying.
Are you just going to?
We're assuming that this is something that kids are going to be bullied.
Like, you know, I don't have a kid yet, but if I were to have one, like, in a way, we're assuming that they're going to get bullied for this situation.
You think that's a good thing.
13-year-old boys are brutal.
Yes.
Like, they're going to.
Okay, but like they finally be like, oh my God, that's so cool.
Your mom's like a MILF or something.
You know, like, oh, that's not going to happen.
I think in like 10 or 15 years, there's just going to be this huge influx of kids that are all like most likely.
Yeah.
Well, it may be embarrassing.
Like, I for sure.
That's a hard one because if I had children, I would no way in hell would I want my kids or any of their friends to know about that.
But again, I don't know.
I don't have OnlyFans.
So then, like, girl, I saw that.
I'm so out of this conversation.
Like, I'm not sure if I can do it.
I saw that link off.
I saw that link in the future.
We've talked about it for a while, so let's move on to something else.
So, let's see.
And I think we're going around the table on this.
I think I already asked it related to if you had any friends that have hooked up with like multiple dudes in like in a night.
I know you wanted to touch on unrealistic standards for men and women.
So, why don't you expand on that?
I don't even know where to start.
I just think there are unrealistic standards.
Do anyone want to start besides me?
Then I could.
Probably when it comes to men, I would say the salary expectation is unrealistic.
A lot of people assume that by the certain age, you should be earning like $100,000 a year or like six-figure, right?
But let's be honest, that's very unrealistic because majority of men, majority of people in general, will have a very hard time earning $100,000 in their 20s, even in their potentially mid-30s and stuff like that.
I think that's going to be probably one of the unrealistic expectations for men.
I would say for women, having children.
I'm 25.
Last year, I was told that 24 is when you're the most fertile, which I could just not see myself having kids right now whatsoever.
I don't care who you are.
Some women do, but that is just not me.
And I think as time progresses, like women are having kids at later ages now.
Yes.
It's true.
Wait, so say it again.
So, what's the unrealistic expectation for women?
Say it again.
But they're supposed to have kids in their 20s, basically.
No.
I disagree.
I think nowadays it's actually not encouraging women.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
But a lot of men will say you're your most fertile at 24.
So you should have a fairly fast.
Well, let's be honest.
That's like Red Pill guys saying that.
But yeah.
Wasn't that what this podcast was?
Well, yeah.
I think we're talking about societal general expectations, like unrealistic expectations.
Well, yeah, I mean, you're most fertile in your early to mid-20s.
And then once you, you know, I think once you start getting into your 30s, fertility decreases.
Once you get over 35, then you're in high risk.
You start getting into, it's called geriatric pregnancy territory, high-risk pregnancy territory.
So after 35, the one, the likelihood that you get pregnant or are able to even get pregnant starts to diminish quite significantly.
There's a higher likelihood of birth defects.
There's a higher likelihood of miscarriage.
So, I mean, biologically speaking, the best time to get pregnant, you could argue, say, between the age of 20 to 30 in that age range.
Yeah.
So.
I would probably say 23 and above, but yeah.
20, I think, is pretty young.
Well, yeah, it's young, but I mean, just speaking purely on the biological level, I believe it's in the range of 20 to 30, just to give it a range.
I don't want to say like a specific age because I don't know.
But so.
Yeah, it's just like, you know, we have a society where more women are going to colleges and they're graduating.
So that's actually extending the time when they get married and have kids.
People are having marriage later.
You know, people actually wanting to work and actually build a career and stuff like that.
So because of that, the age of having children is actually increasing to now I would probably argue 29 to 35, I would say.
So, which is not necessarily a bad thing, again, but it's just, but I think the, and now the consequence of that, though, is people are now having less kids as well because, you know, the age is increasing, it's become more expensive.
So, now we're having less kids, which is did you want to weigh in on this?
I got to get up for a sec, but go ahead.
I think a lot of too, like what I meant with the unrealistic standards between like men and women is the commenting on bodies.
Oh, I think that we, and I agree, like it's very upsetting when boys comment on our bodies, but I think it's been more naturalized without yourself.
Yeah, and I think it's been normalized more lately to do that to men.
Do you think it's the internet?
I do.
Because like just even being like, oh, like if they're not six foot, then I'm not touching them.
It's like that's saying if like if you're over 150 pounds sometimes, being like, oh, then I'm not.
So you have a living, breathing example of that being not true right here.
Yeah.
So I don't, I don't know.
I just want to say, like, for you guys, does height matter to you guys or no?
that's five five.
I know, right?
Like, for me, it doesn't really matter.
I think the biggest issue happens is, you know, what we typically hear those stories from TikTok, from YouTube, you know, all of that stuff, which in my opinion is a very niche percentage of women.
Majority of women typically want a guy who's just taller than them.
You know what I mean?
They don't specifically looking for six foot and above.
They just want, hey, I just said that as a taller.
I don't want to be six foot because you can be like up here and I'll be okay.
It's natural as a female to want to be with a male that's going to make you feel safe because in history they are, you know, the protectors.
Protectors, that's the word I'm looking for.
Exactly.
So I think looking for a taller man, like I just said like even like the weight thing and the height thing as a very like basic start off, I don't like, I don't mean like, oh, if they're over six foot, like I'm just pulling like a bunch of people.
I think it's just basically like less of less about the gender and it's more so like a lack of awareness and empathy among our generation and people these days.
Like that's really the issue to be honest with you.
I think the most annoying thing is like the whole thing of mid coming about and people being so easy to call people mid.
I think that's like the most infuriating thing ever.
I hate it when people call others mid.
I just get so triggered.
Yeah.
But I guess when it comes to guys, like guys, in all honesty, there's no reason for you to be concerned if you're actually not above six foot or six foot or above.
You just have to be taller than the girl you're seeing dating.
And you should be fine.
Like I feel like guys, they probably should be able to talk.
Maybe some guys like they lose confidence because they're not the six feet that they're, I don't know.
They compare themselves to.
It's called 666, 6 foot, 6 demonic.
60 or 3 figures and 6 inch, I believe.
66.
6 foot, 6 pack, 6 figures, 6 inches.
6 inches.
Yeah, no, that's not true.
Wait, what was, I think I heard a little bit about what you said in terms of the mid comment.
What was it?
Oh, I feel like the most recent thing that's infuriating is the whole concept of mid.
Like just being able just to toss that out and label somebody, just like completely dismiss them and everything and just call them mid.
Like when someone else gets called mid or whatever, I hate it.
Like I feel like it shouldn't exist.
I feel like it's so like, you're just tossed away.
Yeah, I think it's more of a projection thing.
Yeah, they're just projecting it.
You know, just, yeah.
She was talking about labels, so I was like, I don't know.
I feel like that's like the worst thing, right?
For sure.
I think that's also a streamer thing, because I mean they're on the, they're watching.
No yeah, streamer thing, you know it's a, it's an internet culture thing.
Yeah, somebody calls somebody mid, just mid, completely dismissive like oh, she's mid, she has no opinion because she's mid yeah, but any sort of it has to do with physical appearance.
I think I feel like it goes.
But they could say, someone has a mid personality, like it can be applied to so many people.
Has anything negative to say.
It's literally always a projection, because our perspective is all based around our own reality, our own brain, the way we feel.
Yes, I feel like everything in life is like mental.
Seriously, that was what do you mean?
It's like the mindset like, even though you're not should I say you're not tall, right if you're confident within yourself to say you know like, I am a good looking dude, no matter, or like even you don't even have to have the looks.
The confidence speaks a lot, but not confident.
I don't think people should be confident, but not cocky, though there's different.
No, confident as if they know themselves.
I was about to say confidence.
Confidence as in like just because you're mid, how about that?
Just be like, yeah, I'm a five.
You know it's like I accept confidence about my shitty hand in life.
Confidence like as in.
Like they know who they are.
You know, I mean like as in.
Even having morals is attractive to me.
You know what I mean, having morals, having family morals, feel your upper hand and flaunting like for me, I'm the type that like, I'm attracted to guys are like family guys.
You know, if you're close to your parents, that's like I'm like oh wow because like, I'm very close to my parents, that just shows that you want to probably have kids in the future.
Right, you want to.
You're a family guy.
Would you date a single dad?
Probably not, that's the truth.
Probably there's nothing wrong with that.
Like, there's nothing wrong with that.
Actually, you know what Eric, can you?
Um Eric, in the Dropbox folder we have something related to the single dad, single mom thing.
Um, I might have to go over there to the computer really quick to go find it.
But if you guys want to uh, continue on with the uh conversation uh, the single dad conversation, or the height and weight conversation yeah, okay.
So I guess, when it comes to the weight conversation right um, I think a lot of people would actually prefer like, a healthy body set.
Right, you don't have to be like ripped and stuff, but you know we're talking about not being like morbidly obese or whatever.
You know what I mean.
You can have a dad bomb, but I just want to see effort that you're trying to take care of yourself, because if I'm gonna be in a relationship with you, like I don't want you to die on me, you know, like from a heart attack.
No yeah, just at least take care of yourself.
Yeah no, it's important to like, yeah, work out, take care of yourself, because if you physically take care of yourself, your confidence will increase.
It's just good for your mental health as well.
It's just yeah, I think that's important.
But a lot of people have different body type preferences.
Like a lot of girls like skitty tall, like gamer boys, while other girls like risk up, ripped up guys, but other girls like dad bots and stuff like that.
So yeah it's uh it's, but it's important to stay healthy.
I think that's the key point.
Well, it's like how am I supposed to know that you're gonna take care of me if you can't even take care of your care of yourself?
Exactly, it's a good point.
Word.
Really quick, just since we've talked about height, do you who here at the table has a height preference?
We just said we don't.
We just want taller than ours.
We don't technically.
Yeah.
We don't have like sexy.
None of you care about health.
You're like, she's a living.
You could be like an inch higher and I'll be okay.
You know what I mean?
Okay, so you do care about height.
Like, I guess it has to be higher than me.
Yeah.
An inch, that's okay.
Just an inch.
That's fine.
You know what?
Like, I care, I said, more within who they are.
Like, you know, respect is very strong.
Having.
But if you're not physically attracted to the guy, then.
They have to be passable and cute.
Like normal.
Passable.
Like, normal mid, it's fine.
Seriously.
As long as he's mid, it's okay.
Okay, guys.
All the mid dudes.
No, nothing below mid.
Like, can't we just pass the physical appearance?
It's maybe because I work with like male models like on the daily.
Like I see, I see like the looks like all the time.
It's like, who are you?
Like, surpass all that look.
Like, who are you as a person?
That's who I, that's, that's my goal.
Like when I meet somebody, I kind of surpass the physical appearance.
Hold on, okay, so hold on, just the whole table.
And I kind of want to wait until Julia's back, but okay.
You're married, you're single, right?
But you're and you're single too, correct?
You've never even dated any guy, so I can't really ask you this question.
But you had an ex-boyfriend before, right?
How tall are you?
I'm 5'2.
How tall was your ex-boyfriend?
Which one?
How about the most recent three?
So one of them, I believe, was 5'5.
The other one was, I believe, 6'.
The other one is 6'3.
So they literally went up.
So I don't know what the average of all of those is, but in any case, I think that they're six.
Okay, two of the three of your ex-boyfriends, one was two inches higher than the average, and the other was five inches taller than the average.
But here's my deal: I feel like tall guys just look for short girls.
You see what I mean?
It's not even me picking them because of their height.
It's them picking me for my height.
What about that, Brian?
But it's interesting that you state that you don't really, you said you don't really care about height.
I just want them to be taller than me.
And sorry, you're 5'3?
5'2.
5'2.
Okay.
But your two boyfriends, I mean, one of them was, granted, one of them was 5'5.
But two of them, one of them was 6' and the other was 6'3.
Okay.
What about you?
Height doesn't matter, right?
No, it doesn't.
How tall was your ex-boyfriend?
So most recently was 5'8 ⁇ .
Okay.
There goes my argument.
Most recently it was 5'8.
Before that was 6' and before that was 6'2.
All right, okay, two of three.
Two of 5'5.
Most recently, it was 5'8".
So, most presently...
So, your standards are lowering, is what you're saying.
Oh, so...
So the standards go are equal to height.
Is that what you're saying?
Well, you've lowered your height standards in any case.
Is that lowering it though?
Are you saying short?
I mean, it's plausible that it just so happened to be the case.
You in actuality never had a high preference, but it happens to be the case that two of the three of your past ex-boyfriends were above average in height.
The average is 5'8 though, right?
The average is 5'5.
I think it's 5'9 or 5'10.
I think it's 5'8.
I think it's 5'5'8'.
I think it's 5'8 is average for man.
I think 5'6 is average for a lot of people.
No, no, 5'4 is average for women.
5'10 is average for men.
So I'm not average.
Depends on race.
Race breaks down in academia.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm five nine.
Five nine and a half.
Five nine and a half, yeah, yeah.
But uh, so typically it's like average and above and stuff like that.
But like, I feel like the issue becomes as unfortunately the guys who are short, they lack the confidence and they probably do not really put themselves out there to begin with, you know, because they lack confidence and stuff.
But besides that, you see a lot of people dating shorter guys and actually marrying shorter guys too.
That's not true.
Shorter guys, like shorter guys.
No, no, no, no, not shorter than them, but short guys, yeah.
Short guys.
Yeah, yeah, short guys, yeah.
Okay.
Again, I think when it comes to internet, we focus on the niche of women who have a specific preference of six foot and above.
But again, there isn't a specific niche.
There's not like some small niche of women that prefer men who are taller.
The vast majority of women.
Six foot and above.
That's what a lot of girls, like, that's what we assume is a lot of girls.
Yeah, that's a stereotype.
It's not just a stereotype.
It happens to be true.
No, I disagree.
I think it's a very small preference.
We literally have a table of women saying we disagree.
Yeah.
You're going to give diplomatic, politically correct answers.
Oh, hell no.
No.
No, trust me.
Hold on.
Let's let this come in.
It's very simple.
To a good man who knows his worth.
A woman is worth the lowest price any guy has to pay for her privacy.
All women start off priceless, but some end up 4.99.
Anyone with any experience knows how that end.free college isn't worth it.
Sorry, it's $7.99 right now.
Let's go.
Yo, Chum, thank you.
I don't know, man.
Much appreciated.
So, look, maybe you are all outliers and maybe you all don't, excuse me, don't really care about height, but the reality is, generally speaking, I'd say most women would prefer to date a tall guy.
Taller than her guy.
Yeah, I agree.
And I would say most women, like if you ask them, find taller men more attractive than shorter men.
Average women are just shorter than average men.
If you're literally taking only that into account, then sure.
But if you put a guy who's shorter, who has more personality next to a guy who's like six and he's a hymn or something, I'm going to choose the guy with the personality.
Well, yeah, but you can create these hypothetical scenarios, but would you, if, again, like all things being equal, you're going to pick the taller guy.
For sure.
I mean, yeah, all things being equal.
I would say all things being equal.
Generally speaking, women are attracted to tall.
Tall and men.
It's not evolutionary.
I mean, yeah, there's an evolutionary basis because a guy who's physically larger, who's taller, is more capable of defending you.
I agree.
And hunting and gathering.
Yeah.
For sure.
No, I agree.
And also, tall guys are attractive.
I mean, they've done like, there's all these videos where a guy will interview a girl.
Would you rather date a guy who's ugly but tall or like a handsome guy in short?
And a lot of the women will pick the ugly tall guy.
They'll pick ugly and tall over.
I need more detail.
Yeah, I need more detail.
Yeah, when you say short, short, how short?
I need more description.
Like shorter than me, then yeah, I would not date a guy who is shorter than me.
Oh, so height does matter.
I said that.
A height matters for me.
I want a person to be taller than me.
Absolutely.
Yes, what I'm dating.
I don't.
But I don't have a specific, like, number preference.
I ain't got no type.
Wait, so you have a boyfriend.
How tall is your boyfriend?
Maybe like six foot, maybe six foot, under six foot.
He's taller than me, but he's not like super duper tall.
All right, well, we'll move away from the height thing, but we have Let's go.
Let's go.
We have Stiffler here.
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
Okay, we'll do that.
We'll start with you.
Oh, fuck it.
I think eight.
Okay.
What about you?
Solid eight.
Okay.
I'd say I'm, we're rating, we're rating ourselves.
We're rating ourselves.
I don't know why.
I'd say a nine or a ten, I'm not going to lie.
Nine or a ten?
Yeah, nine, ten.
Damn.
Nine point five, or do you just want to go with the ten?
Nine point five.
Nine, nine point five, ten.
I don't know.
I would say I'm an eight.
Okay, what about you?
I don't like the numbers thing because I feel like it's so hard to like put yourself to a number, especially like when you're like how I feel about myself and how others perceive.
So like I would give out a number that I feel like people wouldn't be like, oh, she's so like full of herself and that.
So like any number I give wouldn't be a true representation of like how I feel about myself.
Does that make sense?
I would give you a political number, even though like I'm confident in myself.
Okay, pick a number.
Yeah, just pick a number.
69, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't like the numbers thing.
I don't like being just like it's just like being like called mid.
Like I'm just going to take me and just make me a number.
I don't think you're going to mid.
I think you're going to be a little bit more.
But maybe it's just you rating high.
What is the rating?
but what are the parameters of being a number is it just like I think we're getting together.
Yeah, let's just not get it.
Just keep it surface.
Skip me.
Keep it surface.
I don't know.
Keep it surface.
I've never thought this is a good one.
This is a fun little game, Z. Five being dead average, I would say 6.57.
I think you're 7.
7, yeah.
Because I don't know, Brian, your turn.
Brown hair and the green eyes.
It's a little above average, I'd say.
You guys should see my butt.
And then you would probably go higher.
Bella's a fucking, excuse me, camera.
Bella's a 12.
No, let's go.
Don't do her like that.
Oh, no, she kind of looks like she barked at me earlier.
Which makes her a 13.
Oh, wow.
She's protective.
Okay, Brian, your turn.
Go.
Yeah, I give myself 6, 6.9 on a good day.
I think I threw that 9 number.
I would say 6.9.
6.9 on a good day.
Wait, you were about to say something.
No.
Oh, you're like saying something about 10 or no?
I'm saying she is a 10 because I felt like she was like lacking confidence, you know, you think no, but it's strictly looks Strictly looks.
But you were rating her as a 10.
Okay.
Got it.
Can we go hyping like a thing?
Like, what about like something else?
Like, let's rate ourselves on something else, too.
There needs to be like a scale.
Like, there needs to be like a questionnaire.
Like, looks.
Okay, now let's pick another.
My ass is like this.
What do I ask?
Let's rate our asses.
You would destroy us all.
You would literally destroy it.
Yep, she wins.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
Wait, I don't think they could see you.
I think Elizabeth was kind of blocking.
I blocked her.
Do it again.
Oh, it's skipping this ass.
All right.
Haram.
My turn.
Haram.
Wait, you wanted to do that?
No, okay.
Check.
Hello.
All right.
There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
Okay, so we have, let's see.
Actually, hold on.
Let me.
Oh, okay.
We did rating.
Oh, while we're at it, who here thinks body count should matter?
I do.
Or does matter?
It does matter.
It does matter.
Elizabeth.
Oh, sorry, I was dozing off.
Body count?
Yeah, that thing.
I think the lower the number, the better.
Seriously.
Okay.
It's unattractive knowing when someone has a high body count.
Okay.
In my opinion.
Okay.
I think that's so just like surface.
I don't think it matters.
I think it's about the human.
I also don't think it matters.
Yeah.
I think as long as you're having safe sex.
If you're a hoe, you're a hoe.
But like, having like empty sex, I feel like what's the problem.
But what is that?
What I'm saying is that it's like why does that mean that it's empty?
But people can, people also can change and awaken and maybe that was a point.
I think that's the thing.
Like I have some friends that are like that.
So I'm like, do you think they could?
What do you think?
It's a high body count.
Like what would be your number where you'd be like, no.
Like knowing their past?
Are you asking her for a guy or for a girl?
If you were dating a guy and he's like with 15 girls, would you be like, no, like more than that?
knowing his past like he basically slept maybe like a different girl every single day but if a guy's he's you know bagged at least 15 to 20 girls would you be like probably that's possible That's maybe not a bad thing.
That's fine.
That's fine, but not like multiple.
You know what I mean?
Just too much.
Yeah, but how do you know the truth?
How are you going to know?
What if he lies to you?
Then you got a liar.
That's the thing.
He's like being honest.
He's like, hey, I've actually fucked 600 girls where a guy's like and has literally fucked 700.
Yeah.
I feel like because these are this group of friends that I know and like the reason why I was friends with him was because I thought he was a good person or very innocent.
He came very innocent to me.
He treated me very nicely.
But then knowing that he'd been hiding that he has been like a player, that player mentality.
So he was trying to get at you.
He was trying to get on my good side, definitely.
So you just don't want a player.
I mean, there could be a guy.
You definitely don't want a player for sure.
Because this shows that I feel like love, in essence, is like basically commitment.
Or should I say like sacrifice?
Because maybe for me, I believe in like one lover.
You know what I mean?
Like the one person for you.
Like a soulmate?
Basically, yeah.
Like a soulmate.
I don't believe in that.
You don't believe in that?
You don't believe in soulmates?
No, I think it's kind of like that.
But you believe like there's 8 billion people in this world that there's only one person made for you?
Yes.
Because I feel like if you find that one person.
You're trying to work on your relationship.
If you find that one person for you, you could basically look around at other people and say, like, my girl's the best.
You know what I mean?
Or like, you mean your eyes only on for your girl?
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I just, the soulmate thing, because how many people think there's someone's a soulmate and then two years later they're broken up or two years later they divorce?
If you're broken up within the next two years and basically he's not the soulmate for you.
Yeah, but what if you thought they were your soulmate?
They weren't your soulmate?
Yeah, how do you know?
You have to work on your relationship.
You can't.
Oh yeah, that's right.
That's the thing.
Like if you have fights within a relationship, a soulmate would know how to solve it.
You would know how to solve it to continue the relationship.
I definitely believe like someone you can fight with.
Not just call it quits and just run off.
Yeah, like if you can fight and figure it out.
I think you need to be not like fighting, like screaming, yelling, like you need to be able to do conflict resolution.
But I think it's more so two individuals having the level of maturity and ability to communicate in order to problem solve.
That is to create a healthy relationship.
Relationship takes effort and I very much think it's like an everyday thing and you have to work for that every single day.
It's not like it's never going to be easy.
You're going to have your happy days.
You're going to have your sad days and you just eat it.
But if there's more sad days than happy days, that's a good idea.
That should be a red flag.
That should be a red flag, yeah.
Maybe, maybe this too, because I am thankful to have like, should I say an amazing upbringing?
Both of my parents, my mom, lessons.
Yeah, my mom met my dad.
Like, I think she was a virgin when she met him.
The one and only lover, you know?
So then I had a really good support.
They thought yes, but they knew how to resolve every single problem.
How long did they marry?
Was your daddy?
I think they've married for 38 years.
Was your dad just a player before?
No, he wasn't.
You said your mom was a virgin, but like he wasn't.
Was he just like running through chicks?
No, I think he only had like three girlfriends in his life.
You know what I mean?
Like normal.
Normal.
So I believe like the upbringing of someone plays a huge role into who they are.
Right?
Like, I understand, like, okay, in order, like my friend, they're a player, right?
I understand probably their upbringing wasn't the best, right?
Probably a bad.
Maybe the girlfriend, previous, previous ex, I meant like cheated on him to where he's heartbroken, you know, that type.
That's understandable.
To where you can't trust anybody anymore, and then you just want to have a lot of people.
But that's understanding, but there comes to a point where it's like you're an adult and you have to take ownership in your life.
I have never seen a relationship work out at all.
And my family is, my upbringing was extremely toxic.
And I've done so much self-development to be able to get where I'm at.
And so I do think that, yes, childhood shapes you absolutely.
You're more likely to end up in that situation.
however have some ownership and fucking strength to get up and create a life that you want yeah but i think one of your toxic psycho One of your viewers is bringing up a very interesting point where I think culture also plays a very big role as to what kind of individual you will be in the dating.
So I feel like when it comes to the Western society, we are very much of a hookup culture where, you know, hookup is in a way kind of promoted and stuff like that, encouraged even.
It's like, yeah, explore your sexuality.
TV and movies.
Yeah.
But I feel like in a lot of other countries, Eastern Asian countries, Middle East, and et cetera, I think, you know, there is no such a thing as hookup culture.
It's more like try to find a person, try to build a relationship, marry, and et cetera.
So I think culture also plays a very big role.
Definitely.
Word.
Got to get that.
So that's because maybe I had a good influence in my life too, where that's the reason why the way I am, you know?
Well, question for the whole panel.
Who here, just show of hands, parents still together?
Parents.
Still together, still married.
Best friends.
Parents.
Who here, parents divorced some point in childhood?
And anybody here, just father never there at all?
Anybody?
Euler.
Anybody?
Okay.
Okay.
Word.
What about mother, Brian?
Why is it just the father?
True.
Because my mom wasn't really there.
Oh, it was your dad?
yeah my dad well my dad but like that go ahead My dad was there, but like, were either parents there?
Like, question mark.
Oh, wow.
Okay, that's no, but they're both there now.
They're both there now, and they're amazing.
And I love them both.
Yeah, I also have a question mark.
We're either there.
Closer relationship with my father that I do with my mother.
You have a closer relationship with your father.
Correct.
Okay.
All right.
Well, someone mentioned red flags.
So maybe we could actually, no, before we do.
No, hold on.
Let's stick.
We didn't finish the body count.
So a couple of you said body count does matter.
I think you, you, and you said body count does matter.
You three said body count shouldn't, doesn't matter.
If I don't want to misquote anybody here, just curious, what's everybody's body count?
Okay, so I say what I have.
The reason why is because me and my partner, one of my partners, like, you know, did things, but it never involved like full-on.
But then with my recent acts, it was actually like a full-on thing.
Fine, go with two.
I don't know.
I don't know why you're looking at me like this.
She's been with 100.
We already know this.
No.
1.5?
1.5.
So is that like a tug job in the back of a 7-Eleven parking lot?
What are we talking about?
No, it's more like, you know, making off finger.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, but it's like no penetration.
No, you know.
A blowy?
Was there a blowy?
On me, but I never did that.
There's a blowy on you.
No blowy on him, though.
No.
Blowy, you.
No, no.
And yeah, E2.
But then with my recent one, it was like actually full-on relationship.
So that's why I say one and a half.
But yeah.
Okay.
Elizabeth, what about you?
Body count?
Zero.
She's a virgin.
Zero?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
18.
18.
What about you?
Six.
Six.
What about you?
One.
One.
What about you, Julia?
I can count on two hands.
I think it's nine.
You think it's nine?
Yeah, I don't understand how people just sit here and are like counting and tallying and like da da da.
Like, I don't just sit here and like, but if I were to bro, your dog is she has a collapsing trachea.
What the?
My earring can smell like a bad thing.
No, I feel bad for your dog, huh?
Multiply it by three.
That's the real number.
I mean, whatever the number is, you gotta multiply that shit by three for all of you.
That's funny.
Okay, that's that's not fair.
No, mine's like legit.
And I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say one then because I know I've been with less than, I can count on two hands, less than ten absolute fucking lately.
Okay, all right.
So I'm gonna go ahead and say two.
Wait, you just said nine.
Yeah, because you're about to multiply it.
So I'm gonna say two now.
That would be six.
Hello?
Yeah, but six is better than anything at college.
Okay.
Just not math or geography.
Good times.
Okay, so we're gonna react to a video of a, this was on TikTok recently, kind of got a little bit of attention.
Basically, single mom, and she's upset with the dating landscape as a single mom.
Let's go ahead and play that video.
Oh, pause, pause, Video tab, please.
You're gonna have to do the thingy.
Oh, sorry.
I thought you were talking to me.
Yeah.
Start it from the beginning.
Sorry there, guys.
So I want to talk about something that's been really, really annoying me lately.
This is going to be it's about men, but single mom version.
So something that's been getting under my skin is men not understanding what it means to be a single mom.
So as a single mom, a single working mom, I have my plate full to the maximum, right?
I don't have free time.
The time that I do have free, I just want to relax.
So one, I get it.
I'm single.
Yes.
Do I want to date?
Sure.
If I meet the right person, right?
But if you invite me out for a dinner or drinks, especially during the weeknight, come on.
You know I have things to do.
I'm sure you have things to do the next day.
I have a child to take care of.
I can't just go out late at night just whenever, right?
So you have to take that into consideration.
So, if you're really gonna invite me out, one, make it worth my time.
And what do I mean by make it worth my time?
Joe's, just don't invite me out to dinner and drinks.
Get creative, invite me out for an activity, do something different, do something that's gonna be worth my time and effort.
I am taking time out of my evening to meet with you to go and enjoy your company, you know, to see how things work, if we're compatible.
I'm making an effort, so I expect you to make an effort.
So don't just assume that I'm gonna be able to drop off my child somewhere because most likely I'm not.
So unless you're offering to pay for the babysitter, I'm not going on that date.
Also, offer to pay for the babysitter.
That's gonna make me more receptive to want to go and spend my time with you.
And another thing, do not just assume that you can invite me and my daughter out.
No, I do not introduce my daughter to guys.
That's a no-no.
So there's that.
And also, don't just assume that you're gonna invite me out for drinks and I'm gonna show up.
What makes you think that I'm going to put my safety in jeopardy by drinking and driving?
So unless you're gonna film the video while drinking and driving, it's a no on the drinks during the week.
So moral of the story is how is she driving, guys?
And she's a single mom.
She already has a lot on her plate.
So don't add to her plate.
Don't make her life more stressful.
Don't make her plan out the date that you want to take her on.
Like, that's not going to happen.
So all I'm going to say is do better.
And to everyone asking me out on freaking dates lately, literally, if the shoe fits, then it fits.
Okay.
That's all I got to say.
Yikes.
Okay.
I don't even want to go on a date with her.
Damn.
I feel like she's just, she's in her masculine.
She just needs somebody who fits exactly into what she needs.
There's a sense of entitlement there, I feel like.
Which is.
I mean, I feel like she knows what she wants.
For sure.
She wants what she wants because she corrects.
She expects a lot.
Yeah.
She's expecting way too much.
Her standards are way too high.
Unrealistic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, a couple of the things she said is she doesn't want to just do dinner and a drink state.
It sounded like she wanted something a bit more elaborate.
She also says, you should pay for the babysitter.
And she also says, if you do invite me out for drinks, and I think maybe this is not the most charitable understanding of what she said.
She says, don't expect me to even show up for the date.
But I'm not sure if that's what she meant.
It sounded like.
I mean, she's asking the person, whoever this video is directed to, value my time.
But she's now saying in the video, I don't value yours by not showing up.
No, I don't think she meant that.
I think she meant like, I'm not going to show up while like driving to the drinking place.
I think she is expecting for the guy to pay for the Uber.
The invitation has been extended and she's accepting it.
So she's not showing up.
I just think it's literally exactly what I was trying to say to the beret girl on the last episode.
It's like, not what you say.
It's really how you say it that matters.
And like really coming and just like bitching in someone's ear is really not going to get you what you want.
So like maybe lean into your feminine and be like cute and sweet about it.
You know, it's very easy.
But don't bitch because even I don't want to listen.
And I'm a girl, clearly.
Yeah, but I think it's again at the end of the day, it's like, she is the one who has a child, right?
It's her full responsibility.
It's not the guy that potentially might full-time date her.
Like that's not his responsibility.
It is yours to find and pay for the babysitter if you actually want to participate in the dating world and et cetera.
And for the first date, yeah.
But I think actually I kind of do, again, there are a lot of things she said that I agree with.
However, how you say it matters.
But what do you agree with?
For the first date, like, yeah, you barely know the guy, why?
But I think it is also very sweet and kind, and it shows that you're very interested to be like, hey, like, I know you have daughters.
Like, I feel like if you offer to pay for a babysitter, I would be so flattered.
Yeah, that's sweet.
But don't expect.
But if someone does it, that's so sweet, but don't expect.
I think that's well said.
Yeah, don't expect it.
Yeah, don't make that.
But then you're entitled at that point, and it's just not cute.
Yeah.
I think I understand you.
Yeah.
And also, like, for me, when it comes to first date, it's like both people are trying to get to know each other.
We don't know if there's going to be chemistry or not.
So I think like, hey, let's go on a coffee date and so, you know, see how it's going.
And there's, you know, a very good open chance if I don't like this, I could leave right away.
But when you say, hey, let's do something elaborate, something in private, I think that's strange of danger one.
And two, it's, what if there's no initial chemistry?
Like, what about then?
It's like both people are wasting their time.
It's kind of cuck territory, I think, to pay for a babysitter for a woman's children.
You don't from another.
I feel weird to say that.
No, please tell me what a cuck is.
I legitimately do not know.
Well, I'm not literally saying it's cuck, but it's like kind of to okay, you are basically fulfilling the provider role for a woman who has been impregnated and has a son from another man.
So you're basically watching your children.
It's a stepdad.
You're saying a stepdad is a cuck.
You like watching somebody else please.
A cuck is enjoying your woman.
No, yes, I know I'm not using it strictly in the literal sense, but it is like, as a man, it's kind of an L to fall into the provider role.
I think personally.
I'm not saying that a stepdad is a cuck.
I agree with that.
Some stepdads are heroes.
Look, I think, hey, if you want to be a stepdad, I think that's wonderful.
I think it's great.
However, just looking at it from a guy's perspective, if you don't have kids of your own, there are much more optimal mating choices you can make than a single mom.
I think it depends on what your boundaries are and what you're trying to invest in.
If you're really like the girl and you're super down to, you know, pay for the kid and stuff like that.
Almost saying like you're open to sharing the responsibility of the kid.
It is.
So it's a boundaries thing.
If you're not trying to give that impression, then definitely don't offer.
But like, you know, if you're someone who wants to come in and like, you know, if you go out to dinner, you're paying for the child as well.
Then yeah, for sure.
But just be mindful and have boundaries to, you know.
I don't know.
It's just like you're provisioning for another man's child.
It's like a little suboptimal.
Majority of guys don't want to do that.
Majority of men don't want to do that.
And I think a lot of women probably.
Some do though.
Some do though.
My boyfriend's brother did that and his dad also did that.
So like some do and some are cool with that, but.
I don't also, I don't think that's actually a cock move to pay for a babysitter on the first date because it's like you're not necessarily taking care of the child.
You like, hey, I want to date this woman, so I'm going to try to make it possible to actually date her and get to know her.
I don't think that's necessarily, hey, I'm not providing for this child.
You know what I mean?
I just feel like it's not his responsibility to have to find child care.
Yeah, that's why.
Like someone that he wants to take on a date, if she doesn't want to go on the date, then whatever.
But if she does, why wouldn't you find your own like?
I think that's why I agree with what Julia said.
I think it's nice if he does it, but it should never be an expectation.
Yeah, especially on the first date.
That's like ridiculous.
Like if he doesn't even know you, why is he going to invest in you already?
And then also, if that single mother leans a bit more traditional in her values, let's say the relationship develops, she is probably down the road in the relationship, she is probably going to look at you to be a provider for the kid.
Do you think somebody should be telling you before the first date if they have kids or not?
Yes.
Yeah.
I think most women are pretty forthcoming about if they have a kid or not.
However, I've definitely, there was one time I went on a date with a girl and she reveals it on the date, which I'm like, she was nice and everything, but it's like, you should, you ought to disclose that, I think, before as early on as possible.
So I don't think you should hide that.
I think it's a lot, though, too, because let's say you're swiping up on Tinder and you're there just, you know, trying to, you're going to go get food and you're just like down to hookup after.
Like it depends on the intentions.
She's looking for a relationship.
Yeah, absolutely.
But I mean, I mean, yeah.
Yeah, I suppose, yeah, if you're just trying to have a one-night stand, it's like, well, what does it matter if I have a kid?
But, you know, I mean, but it kind of goes back to what you said.
You said most women are looking for relationships, but I don't know.
I think a lot of women are perfectly happy engaging in hookup culture and casual sex.
And I think more women participate in hookup culture and casual sex than do men.
I heard that.
Nowadays, and I think it also depends on, it also depends, I think, what city you're from and et cetera.
Like, I think specific cities like, you know, New York, LA and stuff like that, women are more sexually open and way more okay with hooking up.
I'm not really into hookup culture.
I think there's a lot of issues with hookup culture, but if you want to participate in it, just be responsible, know what you're putting yourself into.
I think a lot of females are a little bit like love to play the whole like, woe is me, like, oh my God, I just wish a guy would treat me right, da, da, da, when really, like, she doesn't even isn't able to step up and actually be a wife, like, truly.
And that's because I had to take a hard look in the mirror and be like, wow, like, no, I want to be a wife.
Like, why, you know?
I kind of agree in the sense where, like, I think a lot of individuals, women as well, especially when they're younger, they're not very self-aware and they don't really want to acknowledge what they want.
They might want a relationship, but they might say, oh, no, I'm just looking up for a hookup, but then expect maybe a guy to change his opinion and actually have a relationship.
But they're not very forthcoming and open with themselves and with the guys.
But I think that comes with the maturity level.
Yeah, I think a lot of girls just like to play the woe is me.
Like they want the attention.
They're like, oh my God, this guy just ruined my life.
Like this one did too.
I just want a boyfriend so bad.
And like really, no.
This also goes to the other gender as well.
Like vice versa to the guys as well.
What do you think?
But guys aren't saying that.
What do you mean?
Guys are trying to be cool and like, yeah, dude, I fucked like three girls last night.
Like not all of them, because I see that eyes.
I see those eyes.
Typically.
No, I think it's kind of lame for a dude to brag about.
I think it is kind of fucking weird.
Yeah, but a lot of them think it's, a lot of them think different.
But I.
But I think to Elizabeth's point, in my opinion, I feel like guys might sometimes say, hey, I want a relationship, but they actually don't get a girl to bed.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
No, they literally do on Tinder.
They do that all the time.
I think that's also that.
That's manipulation.
Wait, do you use Tinder?
I don't use Tinder.
Oh, okay.
Wait, they say what?
They'll say, I'm open to a relationship.
Or like, yeah, I'm looking for a relationship just to hook up with you.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
I don't do the thing else.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, I'm banned on Tinder now, so.
Yeah, I mean, I do think that for women, that's a.
And I don't really know what the answer is, but I think a lot of women will encounter men who will basically front that they're looking for a relationship, but in actuality, they just want to hook up.
So I don't think men should lie about their intentions, but they do.
And so some women can definitely get tricked insofar as, but I don't know how many of those women are genuinely strictly holding out for a relationship and then they get duped versus women who are interested in having a relationship, but are also sort of simultaneously kind of engaging in casual sex.
So perhaps they got duped by a guy, but they would have actually, they were already open to like a casual arrangement anyways.
Sure, but it's about the intentionality.
You still have to be honest.
The thing about stepdads is that the stepdad has no discipline over the child.
Yeah, I mean, that's another thing, too.
That's very interesting.
They have to figure out.
Yeah, as a couple.
Here's the thing, though, that I would say to that is that a single mom, she might start looking for her boyfriend to start being, fall into the provider role without having the corresponding authority.
So all the responsibility, but none of the authority.
So, because she's probably not going to be like, okay, you can, here, you can pay for his babysitter, but don't you dare discipline him.
So it's like, as a guy, it's like, well, I have all the responsibility, but none of the corresponding authority that would normally come with being a father.
Right.
It's just like your buddy.
And then also the difference is, is that like, if you do, like, let's say you're a stepfather and you start like building a bond or relationship with your stepson or stepdaughter, which you would, I assume you would hope that the bond if you do intend on pursuing something long-term with this person, if she breaks up with you, you know, if you do build a bond, then it's kind of like if the child is biologically yours, then you have some, you know, you can have split, what's the term?
Split custody.
But if it's like her kid, obviously, look, it's her kid, fine.
But you would have no.
So it's like kind of a double breakup.
Like not only in the same way, like if she had a dog and you really liked the dog and then there's a breakup, it's like, fuck, I'm not going to see Bella anymore.
I'm not going to see.
Do you guys have step parents?
Do any of you have a stepdad?
I do.
Stepmom?
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
Same.
Okay.
There's someone here that's in a relationship with them.
Oh, yeah.
Like a bonding, like a parental.
Oh, yeah.
Like he, I would say, like, I have two dads.
I don't even say stepdad at this point.
Yeah.
That's cute.
I say friend.
It's a friend.
I met my stepdad when I think I was like nine.
Okay.
Because my dad was just like never there.
I don't know where he went.
So how did you guys feel about them disciplining you?
Well, it's awkward because my stepdad and my dad are best friends.
Like they hold.
They started out as best friends.
They still have a savage.
They grew.
Also, just to bring it back.
What is wrong with your earring?
Hello?
It's just the backbone.
I think just to bring it back really quick to men duping women, like saying they want commitment, but not really.
I think women play a role in that because I think a lot of women will sometimes guys will be honest and say, hey, I'm not looking for anything serious.
I just want something casual.
And then the girl will be like, okay, that's totally cool.
Maybe the guy's like super attractive and he's upfront about his intentions, and the girl will hope, well, okay, he's really attractive, so I enjoy the casual this.
At least I can get this with this guy.
They enjoy the casual thing with the hope that down the road he'll have a shift in what he wants.
But he was honest from the jump, he just wants something casual.
So I think in some cases, a lot of women don't want to scare off like a high-value guy by saying she wants commitment right away.
The mentality I'll be.
I was going to say, I'm open.
I'm open to casual.
No, I 100% make it known from the start that I'm looking for a relationship every single time.
Yeah, I think people need to take personal responsibility and actually communicate that.
Yeah.
By the way, how do you define a high-valued man, Brian?
High, high-value man.
Yeah, how would you define it?
Well, I mean, there's different realms with which you can look at it.
I mean, first off, there's, I think, physical appearance can be one.
So a guy who's like really physically attractive, that can add to his how high value he is.
So what would be rate?
It can be his character.
Well, it can be his character.
It can be his values.
It can be the way he conducts himself.
It can be his masculinity.
It could also be his success.
It could be his ambition.
So it just has to be one of those things.
No, not necessarily.
I think it's a holistic.
I think it can be multiple things.
One could, you know, if maybe he's, for example, I would say like Jeff Bezos, he might not be like the most super good looking guy, although he's been working out, I guess.
But he's one of the richest men on the planet.
He's built an insanely successful business.
I mean, this guy's a high-value guy, but he may not be like, you know, a 10 out of 10 male model.
So it's kind of like there's various components to it.
But you're also bringing up an extreme, a billionaire.
But yeah, so like when it comes to everyday guys, how would you define?
Like, do you have an example of someone?
Like an everyday guy?
Well, how could I give you an example if you don't know who the game is?
Like, for example, like what would be his salary?
What would be his look?
Like, how would you rate, like, what would be his values?
Like, how would you classify that?
Sure.
I mean, well, again, look, it could, I think if he's, I think physical attractiveness is can be a component to it.
But it's sort of the total package, right?
And if you excel in one dimension of this, then you can, if you perhaps lack in another, you can make up for it.
But, you know, I think having good, good values, being successful.
So monitor success.
Sure.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
How would you define a high-valued woman then?
I call myself a high-value woman.
I always like at the end of the day.
Should I say a high quality different qualities that you contribute to society and to others?
So it can be from an internal standpoint, from a mental standpoint, from a monetary standpoint, from an intellectual standpoint, from a whole package.
Physical standpoint.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I think my answer is fairly similar when it comes to women.
The only thing I would differentiate is I think a woman's income or financial success is less important than it is for a man.
Gotcha.
But she still should be able to contribute something to that.
I think her character, physical appearance, values, I think, yeah, that can be the difference.
Yeah.
Between, you know, I don't really, I think the term high, like high-value, what is that?
You know, it's kind of nebulous.
Yeah.
A little vague, but by the way, I just want to do a shout out to Vermillion, Typo, and RPS.
Okay, so yeah, so I mean like you could say like for example high-value woman is like an attractive woman with high relationship potential.
And so that that comes down to some personality things, her character, her values, her morals, et cetera.
So yeah.
Gotcha.
Thank you.
Word?
Word.
So yeah, I guess just to bring it back to the guy, you could say finance, like physical prowess, abilities, skills, social value, reputation.
So word?
Word.
Word.
Wait, what were we talking about before that, though?
Step dance.
The girl, the girl is bringing the, oh yeah, Steph does.
No, we were talking about slipped my mind.
It was the clip of the video of the girl.
No, yeah, we were talking about the mom, but then we got into a conversation about the dad.
Having authority of the kid.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I think we kind of, I think, did anyone else have a reaction to that video?
Why is she driving?
Why is she TikToking while driving?
She's like, banned on Twitch if she did that.
Yeah, I mean, so just I'll give my take on this.
I don't think I've dated.
i haven't had like anything long term or even short term with a single mom well when i say short term like a month or two months or something i have gone on it besides the one date where i went out with a girl and she didn't tell me there was one other girl who i dated I think I met her one time, single mom.
And then on our second date, we had a date planned out and then she texted me like 30 minutes before the date saying, oh my God, there's something wrong with my kids.
Whatever, some excuse, can't make it.
So, I mean, I think that's another reason why it's just like suboptimal to date a single parent because like their, and justifiably so, their primary focus is going to be their kid.
You're going to be lower priority in their life versus someone who doesn't have a kid.
And your kid should be your priority.
But like, if you're dating someone who doesn't have a kid, they're going to give you more of their time and you're going to be a much higher priority on the totem pole.
So if you have like an option to date, again, a single woman with no kid versus, yeah, of course you're going to go with a single woman.
Okay.
So I think it would apply to me.
Out of curiosity, how have you, I just, I would love to know how you have approached a female and asked them on a date or just give me like a couple scenarios of how you've asked a female out.
When, where is, who, what, when, where, why, and how.
Like the whole story.
Yeah, okay.
Well, I mean, recently or like when I was younger, because when I was younger, this was like before dating apps.
So I'd like, I'd like approach a girl somewhere.
But like on the dating app?
No.
I haven't been on dating apps for a minute recently.
Like in your past.
Let's just say you're like, they DM me.
Hello?
Oh, really?
Yeah, I guess.
They're raising you off.
Let's say you're at a bar.
The past five dates that you've gone out on or tried to go out on or five girls that you have approached.
They DM'd me.
You didn't approach any of them, though, in person?
Anything?
Huh?
You don't approach girls in person?
I used to.
He doesn't need to anymore.
That's what he's saying.
He's like, I don't need to answer the podcast.
No, I mean, okay, so for example, if I met a girl on a dating app, what would I like?
What would I do?
I was like at the bar, at the bar like.
I want to know the last time you approached a girl.
The last time you said that.
Approached a girl.
What have you said and how have you said it?
I don't want to know how to do it.
Well, I used to, so I mean, I used to do like when I was younger, before dating apps, I would approach girls, but like after dating apps, I was, yeah.
So you were like, how would I do it?
I mean, it's been a minute since I've like approached a girl in person, but I used to do it.
Okay, so now it's been girls DMing you because of the podcast before this era was dating apps.
Prior to that, how old were you, roughly?
What do you mean?
Prior to the dating apps, when you would approach.
Prior to the dating apps, I think dating apps, so I was probably, I think I was 23 when like Tinder came around.
Yeah, so yeah, like I was 18 to 23.
I was like, properly approaching, like I'd approach a girl at a, I don't know, at school or something.
That's great.
So tell us what you'd say.
What I'd say?
Yeah.
Let's say you're out of the bar.
You're out of the bar, a few drinks.
Honestly, I'm super direct.
So I'd just be like, hey, what's up?
Thought you were cute.
Are you single?
Okay.
Have you ever said, had a like a punny like pickup line in person that you can remember?
Oh, I've said some dumb shit for sure.
I've said some dumb shit.
I mean, I did a video on this when I was doing like the prank stuff, but like.
No, but real, realistic.
Not for a video.
I mean, this is a good one.
Like, you know, you could go up to a girl and you just go up and you say, I would love to smear green paint all over you and spank you like a disobedient avocado.
Oh my God.
Jesus Christ.
That's a great one.
No, don't say that.
Don't say that.
I feel like I did a video on this.
Maybe we could watch the video.
You know what?
Thank you for bringing that up.
Eric, can you go into the Dropbox folder, go into the video, the podcast folder, go into the video folder, and then there's a video of me with, it's called Bad Lines.
Bad lines.
Let me know when you get that.
But yeah, as far as just like what my normal go-to, I'd just be like, go up to a girl, hey, think you're cute.
Are you single?
Because a girl might engage in conversation with you and actually have a boyfriend.
Like, if you approach her, like, you know, sometimes they're quick with it, but sometimes if you're trying to, like, talk to a girl kind of indirectly, oh, do you know how to get to the library?
And they'll talk to you, and then you can, like, I think that's kind of, I'd just rather get the rejection really quick.
Oh, you have a boyfriend?
Nice to meet you.
Didn't know.
Have a good day.
So when these girls have messaged you recently, are you the like, are you moving the needle forward?
like are you the aggressor that's like let's go get food or like i also feel like chill or do you even have to put in a lot of effort nowadays because Because I feel like, you know, you're more well known because of this podcast.
So you kind of consider high value man.
Tell us how the conversation is high value, but you would identify as high value?
Just tell us how.
No, I think in some dimensions I am, and in other dimensions, I'm lacking.
I don't think I'm, I think, I don't think I'm like the total package.
No, but overall, I feel, it's just like an overall feeling.
It doesn't have to be, you have to be super on every single level.
Yeah.
Like, I would call you a high value man or high.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Why'd you say that?
blush Okay.
I know I speak the truth.
Like, it's just, you have a successful podcast.
Yes.
You know, you're an independent man who lives on his own.
Your parents.
Yeah, you could take a girl out for dinner.
You could potentially settle down and have a kid and stuff like that.
Yeah, like all the aspects are there.
You're funny.
You're hilarious.
You have a personality.
You know, you got to continue.
I have my moments.
I have my moments.
But thank you very much for the endorsement.
That's very nice of you.
That was a cute moment.
I hope Zona would live out there.
That was the cutest moment of my life.
Good times.
But do you have to still put in effort?
Like when it comes to hooking up with girls and stuff like that?
Or is it effortless now?
What do you mean?
Put in effort.
So I feel like, you know.
How does the conversation go?
This is my conversation.
Yeah.
How does the listener?
Yeah.
The last, the recent girls that have messaged you, how does the conversation go?
They say, hey, are they like, hey, let's hang out?
Let's go to dinner.
Or are you like, hey, oh, hey, you're cute.
I'd rather not get into, like, I'd rather not get into any specifics about that stuff.
Like, unfortunately.
I'm just eager to know.
I'm intrigued.
But I mean, I would say that started in like January when people, like, girls started messaging me.
Okay.
Because that's when we started having like clips from the podcast go viral.
But even though I've been doing YouTube for 10 years, like even, even though I had like a kind of popular channel before the podcast, girls really weren't DMing me because most of my audience was men.
And it still is.
But I would say that.
I'm like subscribed to my OF.
I would say that LinkedIn bio.
I mean, even though I did YouTube and I was a content creator, I would say my dating experience up until very recently has been pretty normal.
Like the normal average guy's experience.
Because I think a lot of women honestly don't give a fuck about that I have a YouTube channel.
And you could actually argue, I mean, you're saying, well, you have a successful podcast.
I think a lot of women view this podcast as a little controversial.
And I think a lot of women are like, bro, he's just another dude with a podcast.
Like, it's almost a meme.
Like, oh, it's like a white dude with a podcast, you know?
So there's definitely haters too.
But I think you putting yourself out there, because you just, like, being in your presence, you definitely come across as a very like well-rounded, like, great morals, like a guy who would be very good to a female.
And like, you have confidence too.
So putting yourself out there and displaying more of that is definitely going to reel women in more.
Am I confident?
Yeah, you are.
You have the podcast means you're confident because you're putting yourself on camera like all the time.
I mean, you're trying to get some like controversial stuff and ruffle feathers.
No, I think you're a little shy and stuff like that, right?
So like...
I'm introverted.
You are.
I'm introverted.
Introverted doesn't necessarily mean you're shy or not.
That's actually nothing to do with it.
Introverted means you lose energy when you hang out with a lot of people and stuff like that.
I think you're a little shy and stuff like that at the beginning.
And then we kind of have to talk to you and stuff like that to open you up and shit.
But I feel like, fuck that.
Just go for it.
Open your movie.
Yeah.
You just got to do it.
Isn't there, there's some quote, something like, I'm not saying this to be cocky, but I feel like people who are, fuck, it's something like people who are like dumb have the, or people who are ignorant have the blessing of being sure of themselves, but people who are intelligent are mired in self-doubt.
Constantly questioning themselves like that.
There's like a quote.
Can anybody in the chat help me find it?
But yeah, I mean, I consider myself a bit more of a creative.
So I think creatives tend to have, are a bit more, fuck, there's a word for it.
Victoria said, imposter syndrome.
Yeah.
No, it's not imposter syndrome.
It's like in order to be a creative individual, you have to be sensitive and not sensitive in the way of like you get offended really easily by things, but you're more sensitive to things.
You're more perceptive, I guess.
How people interpret what you're doing.
What's good, what's bad, what's going to be popular, what your audience want kind of thing.
Yeah.
So, but thank you very much for the endorsements.
I very much appreciate it.
I'm going to put that on my resume.
But did you have another question for, what was it?
You had a question about how I, oh, we were going to watch the video.
That's it.
Yeah, the video.
We'll pull up the video.
Yeah, you wouldn't have the answer.
A fool thinks he knows it all.
A smart man knows he has much to learn.
I think that's kind of it.
Let's see, what else do we have?
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence.
Yeah.
So good times.
Wait, were you special?
Where did it go?
What?
Say it one more time.
I was focused on that.
Plus, I don't know if I'm that like.
Anyways, I don't know what I'm saying.
Okay, okay.
Let's watch the video.
Let's watch the video.
Okay, these are some banger pickup lines.
Go for it.
I think you dropped something.
Oh, your standards.
Hi, I'm Brian.
Oh, my God.
My sister's in town tonight.
Would you like to have a threesome?
No.
Oh, my God.
No?
That wasn't that.
Just because of the whole incest thing?
Do you like daggers?
I like knives.
Daggers, man.
Have you ever been with a premature ejaculator?
I'm Brian.
I'm Bruh.
Do you think that'd be a problem between us?
No.
Hey, are you guys feminists?
Sure.
She's that shirt.
I would like to smear green paint all over you and spank you like a disobedient avocado.
Which of you two has low standards?
That could be so problematic.
That's such a shit.
Oh, I'm looking for a girlfriend.
Does the carpet match the curtains?
I feel like the CK white shirt.
Yeah, that's me.
Oh, why doesn't my letter?
Okay, that's it.
That was great.
I didn't realize it was you.
I was like, this is Christian.
Oh, yeah, that was me.
Like a couple years ago.
Okay.
Like a long time ago.
CKY shirt.
Sense with facial hair.
I feel like when it comes to dating, like pickup lines never work.
Like pickup lines are cringing stuff.
You should just go to a girl, approach her, being like, hey, my name is Brian.
Nice to meet you.
Do you mind if I buy you a cup of coffee or drink good stuff?
No, but if they're cute, if you think they're attractive, the pickup line could be.
Pickup line could, yeah, that means they're funny.
Well, I think it's just better.
I think some guys, what they'll do is they'll approach a girl with like a sub-optimal.
They'll either intentionally trying to articulate this properly.
They will intentionally do something a little off to like preempt the rejection.
So if they do get rejected, it's because, oh, I did this kind of silly thing.
And it's not because they actually get rejected for them.
So I think some guys, when they do something a little off, it's like almost a protection mechanism to protect them because it's like they can just blame like their kind of strange behavior instead of like actually truly getting rejected for who they are.
In that moment, do you think somebody's actually paying attention?
I don't know where these feathers are coming from.
Do you think in that moment they're actually paying different?
Oh, it's different.
Oh, shit, what the fuck?
Bro, you are raining feathers from your top.
You could be like saying the most ridiculous pickup line, but in that moment, when that's happening, do you really think the person's paying attention to the pickup line or are they looking you up and down and deciding whether or not they want to carry on with the conversation?
both i think it's like i don't think i would be paying Honestly, it would just be like womp, womp, womp.
And I'd be like, yes.
Because I feel like you have ADHD too.
Literally, Mattona, I'd be like thinking about like, what is this guy asking?
Do I just like laugh?
And then we just move on to the next thing, you know?
I feel like when somebody approaches you like this, like just straight away, right?
Without you kind of seeing them approach, but if they do it right away, you're kind of like so shocked that you're focusing so much on their question or whatever.
I don't think I would be paying attention.
I know that when they're approaching me, that there's something, something's happening.
Like he's asking me because he's interested in having a conversation.
And you look and they're like, yo, what's up?
I don't think the content of the pickup line matters.
I just think.
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
There's a lot, I mean.
Plus, I think, you know what I think it is?
I think step one, be attractive.
Step two, don't be unattractive.
So like a guy, and this is also kind of relates to women's assessment of men's creepiness.
Like if the guy is like creepy behavior, it's kind of a very thin line.
Like creepy behavior from one guy would be like flirting from another guy.
But also if you find him attractive.
But also it depends too, like how you're standing, like your body energy.
Like there's so much that is happening in that specific moment when you are like doing your first like encounter with somebody.
100%.
Yeah.
But yeah, I agree.
Like if a creep, if like sometimes not the best looking guy approached you and said, yo, that's a very nice dress or whatever, you could be like, oh, okay, he's looking at my body and stuff like that.
But I feel like if a really attractive guy said that, a lot of girls would be like, oh my God, thank you.
Like, you know, and they would take that as a compliment and stuff.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
I think appearance is very important.
Everybody needs to work on their appearance.
For me, like, if someone compliments me, I, maybe it's just me.
Like, I like continuing conversation, whether you are good looking or not.
That's just me.
Like, I like being a good person.
Like, why not chat, right?
And then many times, they're like, oh, thank you so much for this conversation.
Like, they were having a fight at home or something.
I'm like, no problem.
Yeah, but if they're nice and they're giving you a compliment, like, you gotta, I know.
I think you would know.
Socially, you would know.
You would know when the vibe is off.
For sure.
So that's why we're saying energy is like, you can, you know if you're not.
You just know it, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Word.
Word.
Okay, we have some chats we have to read here.
So we have Curtis.
Thank you, man.
If you hire an API developer, they can make an API that can integrate all your app accounts.
Brian, I have a back and neck injury from Afghanistan.
So I know how you feel.
Hey, sorry to hear that, Curtis.
Ask your doctor about meloxicam and a chiropractor.
It worked wonders for me.
Honestly, I'm kind of, I'm kind of a little sketched out from chiropractors because I've heard stories of like chiropractors like break, will like paralyze people and shit with neck adjustments.
So I'm very hesitant to see a chiropractor.
I've not heard of Malexo.
What's wrong with your neck?
Oh, I've got some, I've got like a neck injury and a back injury.
So I don't know.
I literally just finished a month of chiropractor and I don't recommend it.
Yeah, you can see it.
Working with a personal trainer helped me more than the chiropractor.
And the first time I went and saw a chiropractor, I literally had a panic attack and like cried because I was like, I feel like I'm going to die.
Yeah, majority of them don't even like scan you or whatever.
They just do it.
And you can do like, I don't know, in California, you can like go and see like a chiropractor for 10 bucks and I'm like, yeah, fuck that.
Honestly, I think.
I need one.
I got into such a bad charge.
Isn't chiropractor like, isn't it a pseudoscience?
I feel like it's quackery.
I think it's quackery.
I like going to something else with your dad.
Chiropractor?
No.
Okay, just, I hope I'm not insulting anybody's family.
Yeah, you don't have to go to medical school or anything.
I think it's just a certificate and stuff like that.
But if you actually look up stories, there are people who have had chiropractic adjustments to their neck because they do like the neck cracking.
There have been people who have been paralyzed from the neck down from chiropractors.
So look, I know it works for some people, and perhaps part of that's placebo.
Maybe they are doing something.
I don't know.
But for me, I'm just like, bruv.
I'm just going to leave it there.
Just leave it.
Yeah, just leave it there.
You can get it at the end of the show.
But I know chiropractors, some people swear by them.
It works for them.
But I just, for me, I agree.
Physical therapy is better, in my opinion.
100%.
But API developer, they can API integrate all your app accounts.
Okay.
Thank you, man.
You got from Afghanistan.
Were you, Curtis, confirm or deny?
Were you a what's it called when you airborne?
When you jump out of the plane?
Parachute?
What's it called if you're in the military and you Navy?
Navy Seal?
Navy Seal.
When you jump out of the plane, what's that called?
Airborne?
What's that, chat?
Hello?
Paratrooper?
Paratrooper?
Is that what it is?
Paratrooper?
I think it's paratrooper.
Talking about like somebody in the military jumping out of.
Oh, wait.
Chumnioctonated 100.
It's very simple.
Oh, this one already triggered.
This one already came in, right?
A woman.
Did that one already come in?
I think so.
I think so.
Okay.
We have paratrooper.
We have Adam.
There you go.
We have Adam Barnett.
Thank you for the.
It's about to pop up here.
Thank you for the $69 donation, man.
I appreciate it.
Awesome podcast.
Wait, is it going to trigger?
Hello?
Still waiting.
Hold on, guys.
Sorry, it's going to take a sec.
While we do that, I'm just going to pull up one other thing here.
Oh, there you go.
Awesome podcast.
Hey, Adam Barnett.
Thank you very much, man.
Appreciate it.
And then we had that one from Bender.
Okay.
And then we have a couple here from YouTube.
We have, hold on one sec.
We have this one from TJ King.
Ladies, what would you do if OF disappeared and you could no longer make money off of it and it never returned?
Oh, I can go really quick.
You just adapt and move on.
You just, you know, continue focusing on streaming and YouTube and other ways to monetize.
You just have to adapt.
Okay.
I don't rely on OnlyFans.
Yeah, no, no.
I don't have OnlyFans.
Julia, what would you?
Exactly what she said.
Pull the mic a little closer to you.
Exactly what she said.
Yeah, OnlyFans is not my main income, so I'll be fine.
Okay.
Twitch.
Boom.
Twitch.
There you go.
Hey, TJ, thank you for the super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Prometheus Venom.
Hey, thank you, man.
There's different versions of confidence, rational and irrational.
I tried to go for the rational aspect.
That came in a minute ago.
But Prometheus, thank you, man.
Is the irrational confidence like the alpha male kind of like aggressive, like macho man confidence?
Is that what it is?
The irrational one?
Oh, I think this was related to when we were talking about rating ourselves on the scale of one to ten.
And we were talking about being confident in yourself and your physical appearance.
So there's rational and irrational.
And he goes for the rational aspect of confidence.
Because you could argue, well, when it comes to rating yourself, you could say, well, if you rate yourself a 10, that means you're confident.
But you could also argue, well, if you have an accurate self-assessment of yourself and you say, I'm confident being a six, that's also confidence.
So we have Prometheus Venom here.
I disagree.
I'm 5'10.
I don't see that as a negative.
I accept my height.
Well, 5'10 is the average male height.
There's something wrong.
But 5'10 is good.
You're doing good.
But there are definitely people out there that say, hey, I only want to date a guy who's six feet plus.
Yeah, but that's just ridiculous.
Yeah, that is ridiculous.
It doesn't mean that they were an amazing human being.
I really connected with them.
That's unrealistic standards, yeah.
If the majority of the guts are going to be 5'8, whatever.
At the end of the day, you have to give some, you take some, whatever.
Exactly.
What fits with your life and what you vibe with?
Lots of my friends, they say that, but then the one they end up basically marrying are not six feet.
Literally always six feet.
I agree.
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
We have John Croteau, Mercy Buku for the 50.
If you don't sound like you want to enjoy yourself in relationship, you want to attract anyone.
She sounds like she's just interviewing men for a husband.
We want to be married, but also have fun.
Facts.
Oh, he's talking about the video, I think.
100%.
It's not a job.
Yeah, that dating thing.
That's why I was saying it's not how you say what you say, it's how you say it.
Because a lot of females, especially moms, which like rightfully so, single mothers, like they really have to take on like both mommy and dad energy.
But you have to understand, as even a business owner, I know when to tap into my masculine energy, but like at home, especially with your man, like there's a way to say things.
Like being feminine and understanding the difference of the two dynamics is very important.
We're all right.
We have Sticks and Bones here.
Hey, thank you, man, for the big $100 Super Chat, man.
Thank you.
Brian, when are you going to bring Destiny back?
That would be fun.
It was really interesting seeing him stand toe-to-toe with the red pill agenda from most of your normal guests.
Also, a question for the ladies: What's one thing you would want to change about yourself and why?
Yeah, we can go around the table on this.
Let's start with you.
I would probably be able to see without my glasses.
I want to, you know.
What's your correction level?
It's a negative four.
Okay.
How the 20.
Anyone here wearing contacts right now?
Yeah, fucking crazy.
Contacts here, too.
You too, good vision?
Yeah.
Good vision.
Okay, lucky.
Good vision too.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
I'm negative 6.5.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's bad.
I'm pretty close to being blind.
No.
I think.
Are you still wearing contacts?
Doesn't it make it worse?
That's crazy.
What do you mean?
Like, because there's no air going into your eye and stuff like that, it actually makes your eyes worse.
So you're so it's gonna get worse, worse, and worse.
Well, normally I just wear glasses.
If I'm not working, like I'll wear contacts for the show, but normally I wear glasses.
Like the vast majority.
You can't get LASIC?
I'm kind of hesitant to get it.
You say the best place the Atlasic is San Diego.
Diamond.
Good to know.
I'd like to do it in the future because glasses and contacts are kind of annoying.
But okay, so you change your terrible vision.
I'm not sure if that's really what he was getting at with the question, but fair enough.
Like personality-wise?
Yeah, like what do you want to do?
Well, he didn't clarify, but so however you want to interpret the question, so we'll say with your eyes, what about you?
Down with social anxiety.
So, okay, you have social anxiety.
You'd like to.
But I do like things to like purposely.
Like, I like to like my like motto in life is do something that scares you like every day just so like you can grow.
Yeah.
You know, it's a good one.
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Okay, what about you?
In response to this, one thing you'd want to change about yourself and why?
I think I can get boobs.
Get boobs?
Like, get fake boobs?
Actually, really quick on that, just a show of hands.
Does anyone here have fake boobs?
Okay.
Anyone here have any plastic surgery?
I had a nose job.
Nose job?
Anybody?
I want to get a chin thing.
That'd be cool.
That's all.
That's it.
So nose job and then boobs, anything else?
I would also go toxic lip filler, but you would get a boob job?
Totally, yeah.
Why?
For bigger boobs or smaller?
No.
Yeah, like just kind of smaller or the same size, but just like up.
Oh, like a lift.
Yeah.
And then like they just look like perfect, like pretty.
Okay.
Yeah, boob jobs are fun.
Yeah.
I bet.
Okay.
I want to, I do, I'm going to, we're going to finish up the super chat, but I do actually want to talk a little bit about plastic surgery really quick.
So you would get your boobs done.
You got.
You got some boobs?
Why would you do your own boobs?
Yeah, you have good boobs.
You don't need a boob job.
What are you talking about?
Where I got mine, I had like double A.
Oh, okay.
No, I don't get it.
Hold on.
You would get, you'd get.
I don't want anything massive.
For reduction, you'd get implants.
Implants.
I get implants, yeah.
A reduction?
Why would I get a reduction?
I don't know.
Some people have back problems, maybe.
I don't like that.
Yeah, that's if you have like back problems.
Really big boobs.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
That's if you're surprised.
I'm not a fan of what plastic surgery.
Why?
I'm not a fan.
Why?
Some girls' plastic surgery is not a problem.
I'm not a fan either.
Too much.
It doesn't look good.
But you're saying so much.
It's never the end.
You have to get a good one.
Like, some of them can be good.
Yeah.
I feel like it's...
I feel like plastic and is it plastic surgery?
Like...
What'd you say?
Like, yeah, like.
That's the thing.
I'm not huge.
Like, I don't like plastic surgery.
I agree with Brian.
But totally would get my boobs done.
But like sex surgery.
But it's like, some people get it.
I wouldn't like amplifying your own like personal beauty and like the way you want it to be amplified in but like when you literally just change your if I could snap my fingers I would do it I don't think I would ever go under the knife.
Do you think with all the plastic surgery, should I say, the expectations of being a certain way has increased?
I think you shouldn't do certain plastic surgery until you're older.
I agree.
Yes, I agree.
I waited so long to get my nose done.
You have to know that you actually want it and for the right reasons and not because you want to look like Kardashians or whatever.
You need to do it because it's going to increase your confidence, going to make you feel good, and then do it.
And then it's not worth it.
And I think as you get older, you feel more and more confident when it comes to making that decision.
I agree.
Yeah.
Like beauty standards definitely rose up, I think, because of all the surgery.
I would probably argue it's more due to social media, but yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not surgery itself.
It's social media.
I think social media.
Yeah.
Not a fan of the plastic surgery.
It's not something I need.
It's something that I'm.
My telemission is natural.
If I had to do anything to myself, like.
But not saying I will.
I mean, I've said this before.
My stance on it is, so take even a girl who you said you had what?
A?
Double A. Is that what is that?
Is that just flat?
It's like negative A. Basically flat.
Yeah.
I would prefer a girl flat like that versus her with fake tits.
Really?
Okay.
So I would prefer you as you were.
That's so boring.
What are you doing?
He's saying like, you don't want to say that.
I'm asking you.
He's saying he's an assman.
I'm an ass man.
What if she has no ass?
Let's be hold on.
There's more important things than yeah, but what if she's the perfect girl and then you could also pick which yeah there's more important things would you would you support a BBL?
Because BBL is technically not plastic surgery, it's not body modification, it's not an implant, although some women do get butt implants correctly, yeah.
So whether it's a BBL or it's a butt implant, I think it looks terrible.
Okay, it looks so bad.
I would prefer, I would prefer to double down on it.
I'd prefer a girl who's got a flat butt than a BBL or a flat everywhere.
I mean, I'll dating a chopstick, for example.
No, but like, appearance doesn't matter, you know, I mean according to you well look, don't get me wrong like no he, he wants a woman to be attractive and so our mental urine is attractive.
No, but there's, there's never an instance, for example, where if I met a girl, whatever her origin point was, whatever her starting point was, that I would prefer her.
I don't, care how flat her boobs are, I don't care how small her butt is, that I would prefer her with a cosmetic enhancement of fake tits or a BBL, or lip injections or I don't know what other things women do.
Oh, here's another one, liposection.
I would prefer, I would actually prefer a girl with a little bit of belly fat than having that, that lipo belly.
I've seen it.
It doesn't.
It looks weird.
So no offense to anybody, okay.
So my question to you is, what if you're dating this girl and she's like babe, I are married, I just really want to get my boobs done.
I like want them so bad, like da, why we're already within what, what do you mean?
But what if like, she's already got, like it's for me so, but like, why does she already call that she wants to go with you?
I would, I would lead her to not get it.
I would, I would say look, you don't.
I would, I would try to coach her to just be comfortable with how her appearance.
Well, what if, at the end of the day, she still is like this is gonna make her reassign.
So you, would you like support her if she wanted to?
Yeah, ultimately it's her decision.
So what if you like her body, let's say, let's say you're just, I can't imagine.
I feel like the women I date are tend to not be particularly vain, so why would she?
Yeah, hypothetically.
What if she?
Are you calling me vain then?
Well, I mean there is.
Well, there is, there is a degree of there's degrees to vanity.
But I mean, I think if you're so, if you are compelled to get plastic surgery, you're doing it for aesthetic and cosmetic reasons.
I mean there, there is a component of vanity to it.
But it's like dyeing your hair is the same thing.
What's that?
Dying your hair is the same thing, like she literally said, piercings and stuff like that.
So is that a no-no for you?
What do you mean what?
What's a no-no for me?
So, like a woman changing her hair color or um, you know, wearing extensions, Having an ear piercing and stuff like that, because she's doing it for the aesthetics.
Like, it's technically vanity.
So, how would you feel about that?
Okay, well, we can talk, for example, we can start with makeup.
I actually prefer women to wear little makeup or no makeup, even.
For sure.
And the same, like, just with the same with my other answers: give me a woman who's got a full face of makeup versus no makeup, even if you could argue that she's more physically attractive wearing the makeup.
I would prefer the truth.
I would prefer reality.
And I guess.
Do you think girls who wear makeup are lying?
I think to some degree, yes, it is a lie.
It's probably the most accepted lie.
Look, but and I'm not saying this.
I mean, you have to have the features there in order to enhance them.
I feel like what about wearing heels?
Because you're lying about your height.
Oh, okay.
Because you're just going down a rabbit hole.
Well, okay, so like I mean, there's levels to this shit.
Like a girl who wears a little bit of eyeliner or, you know, but if you're like wearing lipstick, that's another layer.
If you're wearing, if you're like contouring your nose, if you're painting your entire face, then, you know, then like I'll tell a girl, like, you don't have to wear makeup for me.
Like, you don't have to wear makeup around me.
Like, I actually prefer a girl not to wear makeup because, bro, I got black pillows.
Like, you're going to get your shit all over my shit.
Like, hello?
Oh, my God.
Bro, I don't want your makeup.
Also, I don't want any makeup that could rub off onto my skin.
No, thank you.
Why do you have black pillows?
Yeah, that's because it's selfish.
Is it because it's selfie?
Like black silk pillows?
It's the pillowcase.
What about the pillows?
But why is it black color?
What about the well?
I got white too.
That shit's going to get on the white pillows, too.
The duvet?
Yeah, what colors do you do?
So, okay, I've got a white sheet set and then a black sheet set.
I interchange.
I do my seats like once or twice.
Whatever mood you're in, it shows on your bed.
Yeah, the black's more black.
Okay, well, I don't know why we're talking about duvets, but wait, I have a question.
Do you think if there was a male penis enlargement plastic surgery, would guys get that?
There is.
Wait, there is?
Yes.
What the hell?
Since when?
I don't think men should undergo dangerous and unnecessary surgeries, just the way I think women shouldn't undergo dangerous and unnecessary surgeries.
Like BBL.
BBL has a lot of powerful.
Well, I think all any surgery that requires you to go under anesthesia is by definition risky.
Yes, has a high risk.
I mean, breast implants, there are some risks.
One, the anesthesia, there's a risk.
And then you have to, every, what, 10 years, you have to get the implants changed or something.
So you have to redo the surgery.
Maybe in the past, maybe they weren't as, there's some risk of like leaking or something.
Like, look up the statistics on that.
Like, now we're just low.
It's pretty low.
Yeah.
Ridiculous.
Do your research, go with a good doctor.
If you go with some freaking idiot who's charging you $700, like, what do you think you're going to get?
Or just find a guy who's going to like you for you.
But what if it's not about the guy?
Yeah.
Maybe it's about you.
It's about confidence.
I got my boobs on when I was 18.
Good for my dad, actually.
A gift from your dad?
No.
Lord of Daddy crumbs.
Yeah.
Graduation gifts.
If my daughter wants fake tits, one, I'm going to try to convince her not to, but there's no way I'm paying for it.
That's fair.
I didn't even ask for it.
It was a gift.
He gifted it to you.
Yeah, my older sister got hers done, and so she's like, dad, please.
And I did bikini bodybuilding at the time.
I was competing.
So I didn't really care at all because I'm a gym girl.
Like, I'm in the gym working out.
Yeah.
Those things, like, maybe they're getting in the way, whatever.
Still got them.
So glad I did.
I feel so much more feminine.
And so.
Dad, like, felt guilty about bestowing upon you small targets.
He was like, I'm sorry, let me pay it, let me pay for it.
Or feel happy about yourself.
So, yeah.
This shows that he supports you no matter what.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
He wants his girls to help it and good with themselves and da da da.
You know, his delivery on things sometimes wasn't always the best, especially when I was had weight gain.
But, you know, he's just, he loves us and is supportive and wants us to feel good.
Yeah, and it's not like I have like ill, like ill will towards women who have plastic surgery, just as a matter of preference.
Preference, yeah.
Preference for me.
Like, it, I prefer a woman who doesn't.
And I get in trouble, I feel like, with everybody when I say that, but that's okay.
It's almost like kind of a pro-woman.
It's weird because, on one hand, it's sort of pro-woman to say you don't need to wear makeup, you don't need fake, you don't need to spend all this money on plastic surgery, you don't need that's like you telling us what but it's like also the patriarchy, like I think it's more about the female being able to have her own decision and feel confident with whether it's to have the boobs, to not have the boobs, like you do, girl.
You do, you, yeah.
I kind of like it.
But you said you did.
I kind of like, I think it's attractive, like your stance, because I want a man who's going to like me for me, no matter what.
Right.
You know, but like our jobs require us to like look good.
So I wouldn't register for my job.
I would do it because like it's something that I really feel like makes me look prettier.
But at the end of the day, I would want my man to be like, you know, you don't need all that.
Yeah.
Of course.
So like, my girlfriend wasn't that attractive.
That's a green flag.
That's a green flag.
Yeah.
It's very attractive.
But yeah, I don't know.
I'm not a big fan of plastic surgery.
That's not bad.
That's not a problem.
That's understandable.
That's understandable.
It's good that you have your, I know, right?
Like, you have what you think it's right for you.
It's good you found that.
That's nice.
Word.
Word.
But it's like, here, I'm trying to.
The way I view plastic surgery, like, would what would you guys think about a guy who got like calf implants?
I've seen that.
If they look so random, that is random.
Or like ab implants.
If they're looking sketch.
Well, okay, well, there's a lot of things about that because one, I think, again.
You didn't earn it?
Exactly.
Like that.
That it's very attractive.
A man's work ethic and their daily routine for me because knowing someone is going to the gym daily, great.
We're going to fit in each other's lives perfectly.
However, if you're here just, you know, buying your abs, okay, well, sounds like you may have money to buy those abs, but also, are you, do you, though?
Because what's your work ethic like?
So there's a few ways to look at it if we look really deep into it.
But if we're just looking at it surface level, do they look good?
Okay, then I don't really care.
And I mean, the other thing I would point out is like, if you do get plastic surgery, is that an indicator of potential?
Like, so I mean, to some degree, you have body dysphoria.
I don't dismantle that.
I think that's necessarily true.
Dysmorphia.
Dysmorphia.
Yes and no.
Because you're so uncomfortable with however, whether it's your butt or your stomach or your lips or your breasts that you are spending, or I mean, I suppose some people get gifted this.
You're spending thousands of dollars.
You're undergoing a dangerous, potentially dangerous surgery.
You're getting cut up.
There is no medical indication for any cosmetic surgery.
Well, hold on, excuse me.
Breast reduction.
Again, at the end of the day, it's like enhancing yourself, though, right?
I just want to clear.
There are some medical indications for cosmetic surgery or plastic surgery.
I mean, generally speaking, though, I'd say most plastic surgery is done for 99% of them is for purely cosmetic reasons.
There are some women, for example, who have breast cancer and have a breast removed who, you know, to they'll get a breast job to like even it out, you know?
And I think that's that's reasonable.
But I mean, most women who are undergoing breast getting breast implants are not doing it because they've had fucking breast cancer, you know, it's like I want big tits.
For sure.
So there's that.
I think at the end of the day, it's like, hey, you want to, you're okay with your body, but if you want to enhance it to increase your confidence, do it.
If you have the money for it, do it.
But I think every human to a certain degree has some sort of body dysmorphia too.
I think it's a spectrum for sure.
But I think it can be a proxy for like, okay, what else?
What else is here?
I don't know.
I see like the fake lips.
Obviously, there's scales to it, right?
Like, like, I wouldn't put, like, I think BBL is a more of a, let's say, red flag than like a girl who's had a nose job.
There's a scale to it.
Like, and then if you've had multiple surgeries and you have a BBL, you have lipo, you have, uh, they did the hip thing, or I don't know what the fuck they do.
I think if it's ridiculous.
You have fake tits.
Yeah, what else is there?
But also it's like, okay, let's take a girl who just has nothing literally done to them at all.
Okay, great.
Well, there is still probably something else there that's like, well, what else is there that you could find?
Do you get what I'm saying?
Mental illness?
Yeah, well, you're like, yeah, sure, yeah, you could have no surprise.
Like, maybe her house is literally repulsive and she doesn't know how to clean her hygiene.
Well, what else is there?
Like, there's so many different ways.
100%.
But it's just plastic surgery is so like easy to see that people just like, it's such a controversy, you know?
Yeah.
Teach their own, I guess.
Yeah.
wait we were something about plastic sir oh we were going around the table on the it was this one uh What's one thing you'd want to change about yourself?
So you answered you want boobs.
Did you answer this one?
No.
I would say I would be a little more logical.
I just have such a, yeah, I have such a big heart that sometimes it can be taken advantage of or I can just be a softie for times that, what was that?
Did you group?
A stifled hiccup.
Okay, I thought you were laughing at me.
No, it was a hiccup.
It was a hiccup.
I feel like that's more of a naivete, though.
You're just naive and you like trust people easily.
Yes and no.
I think it's more of like a I have I've been through a lot and so I have a very like I'm very intuitive.
I see the best in people and I think I have a very big heart and so I'm I try to understand people so I guess you could look at it as naive I guess a little bit but even with people who have track records that are proven to be you know I can trust them or whatever sometimes it's like I don't necessarily always assert the best boundaries for myself because I just have such a big heart if that makes sense.
So I think that would probably change.
So you would change, you'd just want to be a cold.
It's too much heart.
Too big of a heart to where you kind of like forgive.
You forgive too much, I guess.
Or like, you know what I mean?
You see the best in people no matter what you're doing.
But it's like what about you?
Where are your boundaries?
And that's what I've been learning.
I have a life coach.
She's helping me.
Wow.
What about you?
I don't know if it's a bad thing, but like...
One thing you'd want to change about yourself.
I don't know.
I hear this sometimes.
I could possibly care too much to where it might turn as annoying.
I don't know.
Care too much?
I don't know.
Like, to where it kind of distracts me.
Give an example.
Because I usually, when I wake up, I go straight to work, right?
And the first thing when I go home is because I cook, because I cook, I usually cook for my siblings when I go home.
I cook lunch.
That's like the first thing on my mind.
Like, hurry up and cook lunch for my brothers and my sister.
You know what I mean?
I never have downtime for myself to where I just care too much.
And then right after that, do emails, whatnot, right?
And go grocery shopping, then go back home, same thing, cook dinner.
Like, I help my mom and things.
Just like to where I feel like I never put myself.
What about door dashing?
You could get like someone to deliver some food.
You guys.
I don't.
I don't.
We don't really order food.
Really?
Yeah, like everything I make at home, like we cook everything.
Oh, yeah, it's healthier.
I feel like I had such a similar issue to you because I was still living at home until two years ago, and my life was like centered around donated $99.
I have a deformation in my chest called Bectus Excavatum, which is basically a concave chest.
I have never felt the need to have surgery for it, even though it would be beneficial.
Doesn't Elon Musk have that?
I think he literally has that chassis thing.
He's he's like built like it.
He's built interestingly, for sure.
Yeah, he's got like a peak human potential.
Are you ready to see him fight, Mark?
Oh, that's going to be pretty.
That would be funny.
I think Zuck is a little bit more.
I feel like Zuck's got like a yearhead start on him, though.
So he's probably the one.
But I think Elon is taller, but.
Well, go ahead.
Oh, what was I saying?
Oh, no, I just relate to you, and I think a lot of it comes like when you are like you hold yourself to a standard and you want to be successful or you want to build certain things, whether it's that your parents instilled like success or whatever.
I think a lot of times we do have to sit back and take time to actually find ourselves and find what makes us happy outside of like meeting other people's needs or becoming successful in different areas.
And so it's kind of just sounds to me like you need to possibly take time to kind of explore you a little bit more so you can do things that like fill you up and meet you.
Can you get me?
Wait, who are you talking to her?
Yeah.
Oh.
Okay.
Wait, but okay, so what?
No, maybe, maybe the term is like a people pleaser or like people pleaser.
But wait a minute.
You said two brothers?
Two brothers and one sister.
Are they younger than you?
Are you the oldest child?
No, one younger sister, two older brothers.
Two older brothers.
Yeah.
Wait, so they call me like mommy number two.
So wait, it's uh and you live with your mom and dad, correct?
Yes.
Is it and the brothers and sisters also are in the house?
Yeah, we're still all together.
Why is the cooking falling on you?
Maybe it's just like me like, like liking to take the lead.
Or like, you mean getting things done?
I like getting things done.
Yeah.
So like.
Maybe you like, do you like to cook or?
Yeah, I do like to cook.
It's definitely a hobby.
It's a passion of mine.
I cook and be.
You said you're so busy, so like to go work and then it's kind of like non-stop.
Non-stop to where, yeah.
Okay.
But I like take pleasure when I feel like someone is, I don't know, make, I don't know, like every time I cook and I give it to like my siblings and they enjoy it.
Yeah, it gives me like a high, I guess.
Satisfaction.
Satisfaction.
Okay, so you would change about yourself that you would do less, is what you're saying.
I don't think it's a boundary.
It's harder for you.
Yeah, maybe.
What I'm trying to say is, I think it would be very good for you to take time more to yourself to really understand yourself on a different level because there's needs for your own self that aren't being met because you're so busy fulfilling needs for others.
Is your like love language services?
Because that's what it's like.
Yes, definitely.
And gifting word.
What about you?
I'm a very impatient person, so that's one of the things I would change.
Impatient.
Do you have a temper?
Are you quick to anger?
No, never.
You said you're impatient.
I am.
Well, I have to work on it.
Yes.
Yes, definitely.
All right.
So you'd change, you could be more patient.
I think we could all, everyone could use a little more patience.
You know, it's good.
It's good.
True.
All right, we have sticks and bones here.
Thank you, man.
Brian, when you say that you'd rather just have a natural woman, so piercings and tattoos are a deal break for you because piercing be looking good, just saying my guy.
From my viewpoint, TBH, whatever makes her feel good, and I still feel attracted to her.
Again, it's kind of scale.
So like BBL is pretty up there versus like she's got an ear piercing is like pretty low on my priority list of things I care about.
But I mean, if you start, let's talk about tattoos.
Like, I mean, I'd say generally speaking, I lean more towards preferring women who don't have tattoos.
I'm not like totally opposed to tattoos.
That's not a deal breaker for me.
But like, would I being honest, generally speaking, I would say no tattoos or the less tattoos.
I find it more attractive.
But for me, tattoos aren't a deal breaker.
But like if a girl had like fucking gnarly face tattoos, like, yeah, that's a little bit, for me, that's a little bit unattractive.
Piercings, you know.
Ear piercings.
I'm not.
What about tongue piercings and stuff like that?
Well, like piercing in the intimate parts.
I think that's a red flag.
A little bit.
Not necessarily a red flag, but like a tongue piercing or nipple piercings or like a clip piercing.
It's a little like.
I'm not into them.
I don't like them.
I have friends who have their nipples pierced, but I personally am not.
I would, I'll say this.
I would prefer a girl who doesn't have piercings.
I think it looks trashy.
You know, offense to anyone who has it.
I just.
Ear piercings, I don't like, I don't really care, but like nipple piercings, I'm kind of like wow.
What's her body count?
Everyone I know that has nipple piercings, their nipples stay like permanently hard.
So it's like same.
I don't know if I'd pierce.
I don't want that.
It's kind of like you can sort of make a judgment call based off of, I don't know, if I see a guy like totally blasted in tattoos with like face tattoos, I'm like my immediate thing is going to be like SoundCloud wrapper or like criminal, like criminal history, like something like that.
So it's like, we all make judgment calls based off of people's face.
Have you ever just seen a girl who is just like, everything is like, she looks like such a, like, this is going to sound very like stereotyping, but just so like goody tussu girl and then the nipples are pierced and you're just like, what?
Like went like through me something.
Or like the tongue is pierced and you're just like, she's a what?
Yeah, there's like wild shit.
And you're like, what are you hiding?
Yeah, but I mean, again, it's a scale.
Like a girl who's dyed her hair a little auburn brown or something is a little different than like pink.
Or blue hair.
Green.
Yeah, you know, so.
You know what's actually crazy?
I actually used to like girls who had like color in their hair.
Like red or blue.
Yeah, I used to like it before it was kind of associated with like fucking far left like SJW like super liberal woman.
It used to mean like it used to be more so tied to like women who are a bit more like punk or like it had to do more with like maybe your music taste or less to do with your politics and also had to do with daddy issues, you know, so now it's like you know, you were into the daddy issues.
I'm so confused.
But yeah, now it's like, now it's like, okay, this chick's like probably, you can maybe guess a couple things about her politics and whatnot.
But okay.
I'm not, I'm like a, I consider myself a moderate guy, but like, I don't know.
I don't, I don't like like super out in either direction.
I don't like super outspoken people politically.
Like if they're really like, that's their whole fucking personality, it's so exhausting.
Yes.
There's always some cause.
There's some cause that they're all up in arms about.
Very sensitive people.
I think people are like really, really invested in politics.
Exhausting.
Exhausting.
It's exhausting.
And they may be righteous in their political positions, but it's like for a partner, I don't want someone who's like really invested in politics.
I don't consider myself super invested in politics.
I don't think I'd want.
In either direction, whether she's like super liberal, super conservative, it's like, I don't know.
Anyways, okay, we have Sticks and Bones here.
Again, hey, thank you for the 100.
Haha.
Sorry to be super chatting so much.
I do not object, man.
I appreciate your patronage.
But general question, ladies, I'm single and I haven't dated anyone in about a year.
I'm trying to get back out there and these dating apps are killing me.
So what's some recommendations on how to improve my odds?
I mean, that's a pretty general question, but Jim, get your money up.
Please let me start.
Go ahead.
Marketing nowadays is everything, which means how you step out of the house is so important.
The way you carry yourself, how you approach someone, body language, but also what do you have to offer the female?
Because the more you start focusing on that too, the more confident you will also be in situations where you can assert like more of an alpha, I guess, energy.
It's like a confidence, you know.
If you know what you have, you get what I mean?
Like you attract the like things.
Yeah, like if you if you know you have like value or you feel like you're valuable, then you're gonna naturally communicate with somebody and hold yourself in a confident light.
And that's attracted.
Anybody else have a answer to this?
So I think again, like appearances matter because that's the first judgment you're going to make is the appearance.
So make sure your outfits are clean, well-fitted, you're physically active, groomed well.
When it comes to like online dating, make sure your profile picture is actually well because a lot of guys have really bad profile pictures and you're going to get swiped left.
And then it's very important to learn how to talk to women.
I feel like a lot of guys cannot talk to women and like keep an eye contact, which is kind of a demonstration of lack of confidence.
You have to make sure to keep an eye contact with people.
So I would try to work on those.
I feel like easier said than done.
You know what's really gangster though?
Never looking at a woman in the eyes.
That is so bad.
Just look at her tits.
Just stare at her boots.
You're not even worthy of me looking at you.
That's the most gangster shit.
If you're not looking at me, I'm not sure.
So you're misreading it.
The guys that are scared to scared to make eye contact, they're actually, they just, they're so confident.
They're staring at the table.
How do they look at you?
The table is more than a moment.
I only look at people that are a threat.
I will only glance at someone who's a threat to me.
I feel like people do that.
The table is a threat to you.
The table will attack you.
Well, I'm just, I'm so confident that I need not look at who I'm talking to because I can do my Akido.
Makes sense.
Totally.
Work.
Fucking work.
Anybody else on that super chat?
Anybody advice?
I mean, I think the big one, just get fit, get in the gym, get your money up.
Exactly.
Those are some things within your control that you can work on.
I feel like you can just talk to people too.
Like, so many people put so much emphasis on, like, you have to talk to girls in a certain way.
I mean, she's a human.
Just talk to her like she's your bro.
Exactly.
I feel like I always be on dating apps.
I do.
The best thing is just ask her questions that let her do the talking.
Yeah, if you're interested, then ask a question back.
You know, that's how you continue conversation.
Yeah, conversation.
I feel like guys feel like they have to Riz a girl up all the time.
Like, it's not like that.
You just talk to her like she's a person.
Sometimes you keep rizzing a girl up and just care about her.
Don't say anything.
Yeah, but if you have Riz, you are 99% sure.
Like, 100% you are going to get the girl than if you don't have Riz.
That is just a fact.
And I think everyone can agree with that.
If you have Riz, the girl is going to be, look at you.
What would you define a Riz app?
What would you find?
Where are you carrying?
Riz is gay.
It's a lot of energy.
It's just charismatic.
But that comes from confidence and stuff.
Exactly.
And that's my point.
That's why I was saying that.
I like a man who knows how to talk.
But confidence isn't like the only thing.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but are you going to date an insecure man?
Are you attracted to that?
No.
Being secure is super important, yeah.
Yeah, you could also go to...
Never mind.
I was going to say you could become a Passport Bro too.
Because you said you've been single for a year.
You haven't dated anyone in about a year.
Brian, you are crazy.
Don't listen to Brian.
No, I'm not.
It's all good.
I'm just saying, you know.
Get off yourself.
If you're struggling to find to, and it's not clear if you've been trying to find somebody, but, you know, if you're struggling in the marketplace in the U.S., maybe think about Latin America, think about East Asian countries.
Go to where you are appreciated.
Also, you could potentially lower your standards a little bit, make them a little bit more realistic.
No, shoot for the stars.
Go for your goal.
Neil.
Fight for your dreams.
Neil Moore got this.
I believe in you.
I would just put down the dating apps and just go outside.
True.
Like, go outside.
Touch grass and go outside.
Hang out with Brianna.
How long we have to go to the house.
Like, go to the park and do a hundred dollars.
One sec.
Get in my belly.
I want my baby back.
Ribs.
I want my baby back.
ribs.
Chili's baby back ribs.
All right.
Thank you, Fat Pastor.
Thank you.
You were saying touch grass, go outside.
Go to the gym.
Yeah, like you said, go to the gym.
You probably can meet a woman at the gym.
You'll probably meet someone at work.
Don't do the gym.
Don't do the gym.
Your recommendation to him is to just go and approach a girl out in public.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I think so many stories now from people dating.
They're like, we met on Tinder.
It's like, okay, that's not the gym.
How sweet.
Please don't.
I don't think.
Well, yeah.
The gym is the worst place.
I wouldn't approach a girl at the gym just because it's like you're there to put in work, to work out.
I think a lot of people, I mean, look, if you're really fucking feeling her, then you can.
No, if you got it like that and you're hot, do it.
If you're lacking in the confidence and you don't know if you can don't, just don't.
Oh, yeah.
If there's any doubts, like, then it's just going to be awkward.
It's a no.
It's just going to be awkward.
Like, because if you see them again, it's just like, yeah, I don't know.
There's just so many places to meet people.
Like, if you're in like 20s, you would go to a bar, a party, like anything.
If you're older, go on Facebook group.
Facebook groups are older.
And see where the parties are at for 30-year-olds.
Go make some friends.
There's going to be girls there.
It's going to give you confidence in the world.
Wait, so okay.
I want to do a test.
So you said just go out, like pick up a girl out in the real, in the streets.
So I want you to try to pick me up.
I'm going to pretend to be a chick.
You be a dude.
Let's do it.
Oh, gosh.
My name's Brianna.
Or actually, here.
Okay, you.
Where are we?
Yeah, where are we?
You pick.
What's the context that we're meeting?
What's the context?
The park.
Okay, so I'm at the park.
What am I doing?
Am I just like laying on a blanket reading a book?
I got my book.
Yeah, you're reading a book on the bench.
Okay.
Cute.
And I never claim to have risk, guys, but go for it.
Is a seat taken?
That's cute.
I'm just a good start.
Am I on the grass?
No, you're on the bench.
Oh, there's a bench?
There's a bench.
You're on a bench reading a book.
Or like ask, like, can I sit in my shoes?
That's so.
No.
It's a yes or no question.
Let me try.
Oh, you want to ris me up?
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
Okay, what's the context?
Same one.
Park.
I'm at the park bench reading some fucking romantic.
Okay, I'm a social.
I'm reading Karl Marx.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Okay, I'm going to walk by you and I'm going to literally compliment your shoes.
I'm going to talk to you about your shoes because you're a guy.
Guys love sneakers, the sneaker game, whatever.
I'm being like, no, but I'm the chick.
I'm the chick.
You're the dude.
I'm a big guy.
I'm just kind of rizzing up.
The girl.
Oh, shoot.
This is so hard.
That's what I mean.
It's so hard to uncomfort.
I got it.
I got it.
Are you going to go?
You go.
I'll take it after you.
Go ahead.
All right.
You know, can I sit here?
I couldn't help but notice from across the park your smile's very beautiful.
No, no, no, no.
Can I try and be a little bit more?
Girls have no game.
No, I got this.
I got this.
I'm not even going to try.
Okay.
I love that.
Hey, do you mind?
Hey, is this seat open?
Do you mind if I sit here?
No.
Bro, there's a.
Why do we have to do the open seat?
I'm sorry.
Yes.
Don't be fucking weirdo.
Don't sit this way.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let's start again.
Okay, go again.
Go again.
Excuse me, Miss.
Do you mind if I sit here?
Yes.
Just saying.
Hold on.
Let me just give my answer.
This is what a girl would say.
She'd be like, there's like a seat over there.
No, no, no.
I'm sure it is here.
Sure.
But that's like.
Let's just say yes.
Okay.
Let's move on.
Hey.
This is like, okay.
Wait, okay.
You're reading a book.
In the men's bathroom, if there's three urinals, you don't go up to the urinal.
You don't take the urinal next to another dude.
There has to be a, like, if there's other benches at the park, you can't go up to the girl and be like, oh my God, it's so crowded in the park.
Bro, but I'm making it obvious that I'm actually interested in you.
That's why I said, can I sit next to you even though there's no signal?
The best thing to do is to keep it nonchalant and be like, oh, I love that.
Like, I love that shirt.
Something like a dream.
I would just have talked to you about your book.
Okay, fine.
I'll play along.
I'll play along with you.
What's your name?
Sure, sure.
Okay, ris me up.
So, my name is Bella.
What's your name?
Oh, it's Brianna.
Nice to meet you.
What book are you reading?
Karl Marx.
What is it about?
Yeah.
Communism.
Oh, do you mind if I maybe grab you a coffee and then we can talk about the spoken book?
No, I feel very interesting.
No, if after that short of time, they're asking to grab a girl.
I think it's too cool.
This is so cool.
I think all of these aren't.
I'll give you my actual rebuttal.
I'll be like, I don't know.
I'm just kind of like enjoying my communist reading session here.
Can you?
It's so shallow.
I don't even know you.
Whatever.
Oh, well, you know what?
That's okay.
Have a great day.
And then I'm just going to walk away.
No, that's not.
Because I'm the confidence.
Okay, go ahead.
Try.
You're wearing a green shirt or something.
I don't know.
I'm walking out.
Hey, I love that green shirt.
That's so something.
I don't know.
Just be natural.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, what's your name?
Brianna.
Brianna.
Oh, nice to meet you.
I'm a daddy.
Where are you from?
You can't actually say if you said you were daddy.
Okay, hi, I'm Tim.
Actually, I feel like a girl might laugh at that.
She probably would.
That could be funny.
That could be fun.
That's funny.
Where are you from?
Brianna, where are you from?
Vermont.
Vermont?
Wow.
I've never been over there.
What's it like?
It's boring.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm from Colorado.
The mountains.
Oh, my God.
The snow, let me tell you, horrible.
Do you like LA?
How long have you been living here?
First conversation.
Vermont.
I just lived down here.
I think that's the way.
Seriously, are you seeing anybody yet?
Am I seeing anybody?
Yeah.
Oh, you know, I'm like, just, you know.
Chilling, reading your book.
All right.
Well, I think you're beautiful, and I would love to take you out.
Nothing, just to hang out, get to know each other.
Maybe go get dinner on me, obviously.
Love to treat you to whatever you want.
Oh, yeah, I guess we could do dinner.
Let's go.
Are you going to ask me for my number?
No, I'm kidding.
No, this is your number.
I know.
That's true.
That was me just joking.
And then I'm going to be like, okay, yeah.
Well, you know what?
Give me your phone.
I'm going to put my number in.
Oh, I actually don't give out my number, but I can give you my Instagram.
Oh, that's so smart.
That's what I'm doing.
That's when you know.
That's what I think.
That's when you know.
Actually, no, that's not true.
It might not necessarily be a rejection.
It may not.
Because she may be trying to see what you're about because I've done that before.
You kind of use the Instagram as like a filter.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so then.
Honestly, though, I think that the way the trajectory of that conversation, I think it moved way too quick.
There wasn't any like banter.
I don't think there was any like it's well, but she's reading a book.
Like you don't, you don't want to take away her shit.
That's annoying.
Well, she already like put it down to talk to you in the first place.
So she's already done that.
Shoot your shot.
Don't take up her time.
Here's why.
Okay, cool.
You want to make sure she thinks about you because if it's short and sweet, she's thinking about you, but don't make her uncomfortable.
You're not going to go get a coffee right away.
Sure.
Okay.
You don't want to do something that immediately slap her on the ass and walk away.
Okay, cool.
Damn.
I've given you, I've given you the Instagram.
Now what?
So it's later on in the day.
What do you do?
You're going to wait.
You do not slide in immediately.
You wait till the next day because guess why?
You're busy.
You're a man of high value.
You got shit going on.
Yeah, so you're going to slide in the next day.
And you're going to say, hey, what are you doing this Saturday?
I'd love to take you to dinner.
And then.
Or don't say like, hey, he approached to me.
And yeah, don't pick me if he asked me to hang out and then he didn't text me.
I'd be like, whatever.
Yeah, is your goal to like get laid?
No.
For me, I like it when the guy.
Oh, fuck.
No, that's not it.
But no, my goal.
No, I mean, my goal is to get to know the girl.
Let's go back and forth with the actual messages on Instagram.
So you say what?
Either way, to get laid or to get to know a girl, the beginning is still, the beginning is still the same.
Whether you want to get laid or get to know the girl, it's still the same.
100%.
So that will work every time.
Okay.
So.
So you wait a day, then you slide in.
What do you send?
You say something cute, something cute and funny about the book.
So you can't.
Finish something funny.
You finished it.
Here, let's just roleplay it.
Okay.
Roleplay.
You don't have to just go ahead.
What's your message?
You finished that book yet?
Are you still glued to that book?
LOL.
Something cute.
Fun.
I like that.
I actually really like that.
Still glued to that book?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That sounds like a girl who's not interested.
If you're giving such a short answer, it's like, yeah.
I would say I saw you.
I don't know how to interest it.
Yeah.
What are you saying?
What's that book from Robin D'Angelo about?
It's like something about white privilege.
Yeah, I'm reading a book on white privilege now.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Can you just give me a normal?
Yes.
I finished the book.
It was wonderful.
How are you?
Oh.
I'm going to say you said I finished the book.
It was wonderful.
What'd you say?
Yeah, how are you?
That's how are you?
If this was like a conversation, this is like zero Riz.
No, we're messaging, so I have time, Brian.
Okay.
I'd say.
You're trying to get me out on a date, right?
Okay, get me out on the date.
Go.
What would be wonderful is what would be wonderful?
No, don't say that.
I'd say, oh, that's something just simple.
Oh, that's.
Hold on, hold on.
Don't do this.
Okay.
Do it.
Hold.
Can you lower the volume?
Just do it.
Don't let your dreams be dreams.
Yesterday, you said tomorrow.
So just do it.
I love that guy.
Something you need to say something a little flirty with her, but not too flirty.
So I would say something.
But then you.
Hey, but that was a good start.
That was really good.
Hey, I was committed, okay?
I was committed to this.
What were you going to say, though?
Okay, here.
Let's get some chats.
And okay, we got Matt Jams89.
Hey, thank you, man.
Brian is so modest saying he's in a high-value man.
He actually saved me from a shark attack before.
Some girls left out the fish we had caught that day and then tracked a shark.
Brian ran out of the boat cabin and scared the shark off 11 out of 10.
Hey, Matt Jams, 89.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Oh, one other quality I appreciate in women is modesty.
I like modesty.
Because I try to be modest.
Okay.
We have Ex Falco here.
Thank you for the donation, man.
Appreciate it.
Wonderful stream tonight, guys.
Good to see these girls have their head on their shoulders.
Please be careful to not go too far in the OF route as to not disrespect yourself and your future family.
Perception is everything, and reputation and legacy last.
I would agree.
Work-based.
Okay.
Good times.
Ex-Falco, thank you for that.
Do you guys have a response to that or not really?
Thank you.
Of course.
Draw your boundaries, ladies, and always stick to them.
Exactly.
Wait, we have a little update here from Sticks and Bones.
He says.
My problem is that I live in Japan.
I work for the military.
I've been here for eight years now, but the dating scene be rough out here.
I'm a 5'11 dude, covered in ink.
I go out a decent amount.
I've gone on some dates, work out five times a week.
Bro, you're already in Japan.
Are you 5'11?
How are you not just like killing it, dude?
Well, the tattoos in Japan are considered a part of the mafia.
Not the mafia, but the tattoo.
Well, for native Japanese, but he's basically.
Are you American?
Are you American?
I don't think he's like in the Japanese military.
Sticks and bones.
Slide into some DMs on Instagram, honestly.
I'm not going to lie.
I think that's going to be your best bet.
What is the term looking for me?
What's not working out for him?
What's that?
What's not working out for him?
Yeah, sticks and dies on Instagram.
Can you clarify?
Are you in the U.S. military?
I assume you are, but.
No, the ink is still a problem because sometimes when you go to public places, you still have to cover it up in Japan.
It's a cultural thing.
I thought that was changing, though.
No, I was just in Japan and they're like that.
Yeah.
It's still pretty.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I don't know, I might be wrong, but I feel like when it comes to certain Eastern Asian countries and stuff like that, they actually would like to date a Japanese guy, in my opinion.
They like to stay within their own ethnicity.
What's it called?
Gaijin?
I think that's the term, gaijin?
What does that mean?
A Gaijin is like, isn't that what the Japanese will call a foreigner?
Gaijin.
Sure.
That's what they call the foreign, like, typically American foreigners, I think.
Is that wrong to say gaijin?
I don't know.
I don't know what you're talking about.
You're the only one.
Wait, Gaijin, meaning, hold on.
Am I. Mean foreigner or outsider.
In practice, gaijin are commonly used to refer to foreigners of non-East Asian ethnicities.
Gaijin.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right.
Gaijin.
Yeah, somebody also brought up an interesting point.
I have no idea.
It's a term for foreigners.
So maybe, I don't know, you got to find some.
I'm pretty sure there's Japanese women that are like Gaijin hunters.
But somebody brought up an interesting point.
Hopefully you're actually able to speak in Japanese, like speak Japanese and communicate with them.
Because that's important.
I mean, they speak.
I don't speak any Japanese, and everyone was super eager to practice their English.
But I feel like if you're going on a date, I think it's a little important.
Wait, sticks and bones.
Are you in some remote, like small population area of Japan?
I don't know.
Are there U.S. military bases?
Also, how long, do you know if you're going to be going to be in Japan this whole time?
Like, why don't you start DMing girls back where you're going to be going to?
Or are you out in Japan forever?
Like, what's the vibe?
I don't know.
Like, slide into some girls' DMs back in Colorado if that's where you're headed back to, you know?
True.
Okay.
We have Adam Collins here.
You say that and it works up front, meeting in the streets, which works short term.
However, girls get sketched out by no social media.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Loki, yeah.
Because we want to see, like, we want to, like, investigate a little.
We're a little crazy.
So you think if the guy has like absolutely no social media presence, he's, something's wrong.
No, not that something's not wrong, but it's like we're.
I think why?
We want to know a little bit more about you.
It's a little too.
The unknown is very for a lot of people.
Well, something like, why?
Why don't you have social media?
If that's the reason, then that's not necessarily a bad thing.
But if they got some like baggage, then I mean.
They want to do a little bit of a bad thing.
Or are they hiding?
Or what if they're hiding?
Yeah.
They actually have a girlfriend baggage.
See, we just want to see the vibes.
Word.
Okay, we have TJ King.
Hey, thank you for the 50 Man Ladies.
Would you smash Henry Cavill if he approached you with a date?
100.
Henry Carlos.
Oh, my God.
Who's that?
Superman.
Only if he's dressing as the witcher.
Eric, can you find some photos of potential James Bond?
No, I don't see it.
I think he is going to be James Bond.
I mean, I can't believe that they say that he's too old to be a Superman.
It just seems crazy to me.
By the way, Sticks and Bones, I don't know if you're still in the chat, if you've hit the, because sometimes there's a maximum.
Oh, yeah, Sticks.
You might have hit the.
I don't know if you hit the max actually, but if you, I think on YouTube, there's a $500 limit for super chats.
So you may have to, if you want to get your message in, you may have to do it through Streamlabs.
That's Henry Cavill.
Cavill.
Cavill.
I can't pronounce anything.
Okay, so why, what's ladies, why is he the witcher?
I mean, just here, show of hands.
Who here would accept a date from Henry Cavilla?
Did you see a picture of what he looks like right now?
Because there's like, yeah.
He plays World of Warcraft, by the way.
Hello.
What do you mean?
A picture?
Those were pictures of him.
Yeah, I didn't get a good look.
Please.
All right, pull it up again really quick.
Pick one that looks like him right now.
Probably that.
I mean, he Cavill don't.
Like, this is like 700 different looks.
Like, pick one that looks like him right now.
I don't know who is who.
Scroll down.
Oh, it's a Superman guy.
Mm-hmm.
And like, what's the body looking like right now?
He's.
Oh, my gosh, Aaron.
I don't want to know.
All right.
Okay, we have Sticks and Bones.
I'm American, U.S. military.
And the issue, TBH, is that most people nowadays aren't looking for anything serious nowadays.
Hookup culture is huge out here.
Now I live about an hour away from Tokyo.
I'm moving from Japan next year.
Okay.
He's an hour from Tokyo.
So he's like, would that be the suburbs maybe of Tokyo?
I'm not super familiar with Japan.
Well, it looks like someone said Japan is easy in the chat.
I know I'm not supposed to see that.
No, it's kind of interesting how he says.
I thought Japan was more traditional.
No, it's not even that, but people are not having sex in Japan.
Like, their birth rates are going really down because they're just not having sex.
And so I'm kind of interested that he said the hookup culture is huge because I would have thought it was the opposite.
I would have thought that there would be a lot more single women out there, you know, already to whatever, because men don't want to have sex anymore.
So that's kind of interesting.
Is there Japanese tender?
That's what you were saying.
For sure dating.
I'm just saying dating up.
Yeah, that's your best hope.
Hookup culture is huge, August.
And maybe try to get a FaceTime in before you meet up.
Well, Sticks and Bones, are you not trying to hook up with some Japanese women?
What's going on?
You don't want to hook up?
You want a relationship?
He wants a wifey.
But he's leaving in a year.
Isn't it the case, though, that people have to work a lot in Japan?
Both men and women are work a shit ton, and so they don't have a lot of time or something.
I mean, like, honestly, bro, you're going to have to ride it out and wait until you move.
They have a very high rate of falling asleep dead because of working so much.
Yeah.
Good.
Pretty interesting culture.
Do you think hookup culture will ever go away?
No, that cat is out of the bag on that, I think.
No, this guy should actually look wherever you're going to move back to, find girls and just like, you know, have a little bit of a roster.
And then when you move back, you can meet, if they're still single, you can meet up with them.
I find that tough, though.
Because a lot of people say a lot of women in a lot of Asian countries tend to lean more traditional.
So I don't know.
It's just kind of surprising that you're struggling in Japan when a lot of people say, well, if you're struggling in the Western countries, go to an Asian country.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Rip.
R.I.P.'s in the chat for our boy, Sticks and Bones.
He's 5'11, ripped as fuck.
He's a fucking GigaChad, and he's struggling in Japan.
If there's any Japanese ladies in Japanese.
Any Japanese ladies watching his DMs, Sticks and Bones DMs are open.
Yeah, maybe, I don't know.
Guaranteed in a week from now, you'll already go on the tear, dude.
You gotta hit, you gotta do the dating apps, you gotta go to social gatherings, you gotta meet.
You're probably not putting in as much effort as you think.
Approach girls.
Have you been on the dating apps?
What have you tried?
What have you tried?
Because if you're not trying various avenues, then, you know.
We have the cast man.
Hey, thank you, man.
I'm an American who lives in Japan.
Yo, by the way, guys, I might go to Japan at some point.
So to visit.
I've never been.
So maybe I can meet up with you guys.
I'll wingman for you.
I'm a good wingman.
Okay.
That's cute.
Okay, the cast man.
I'm an American who lives in Japan.
It's extremely hard to date Japanese women if you don't speak Japanese.
Well, yeah, that could be a thing.
Most people don't speak English.
Okay, yes, Tinder is in Japan, but you won't get any matches if you don't speak Japanese.
Okay.
That's a good point.
Yeah, so you probably, I mean, if you're in a foreign country, especially like, I think in Japan, my understanding is like there are some like European countries where a lot of them will speak English, like the Netherlands, Scandinavian countries, a lot of them will like very, even though it's not the primary language, like they speak English very proficiently or fluently.
In Japan, like you got to speak Japanese, most likely.
So basically.
You got to learn Japanese, son.
Sticks and bones.
You speak Japanese.
A polyamorous relationship when you're dating three people or more than one, it's going to be you, your Japanese girl, and Google Translate.
That's what you're about to be in.
Yep.
But dude, can't you find in the major cities, can't you find like gaijin hunters?
It's like natives.
Maybe he needs to start his own dating service where he can help his other, like other people from outside of Japan.
I mean, you could say he could try to date the fellow American U.S. soldiers that are women, but I've not heard good things about that.
Okay.
So, yeah, good times.
Okay, we have, let's see, we have Curtis here.
When I was in there's a lot of people tuning in from Japan right about now.
Oh, when I was in Okinawa in the Marine Corps, I wasn't having much luck with the Japanese chicks, but then I took two semesters of Japanese.
All of a sudden, I was slaying Japanese chicks, got so good that the girl from Tokyo would fly down to visit me weekly, and he was on Okinawa, which was an island in Japan.
So, bro, you got, yeah, you probably got to learn Japanese.
Exactly.
Did Sticks say he's been in Japan for eight years?
He said he's in the military for eight years.
Okay.
Military.
Yeah, I think you got to learn the language.
I mean, I think that it's a hard language to learn, though, I think.
So, okay.
Good luck with that.
Thank you, Curtis, for that donation.
Okay, we have it for the chats.
We should try to wrap up here pretty soon.
So before that, anyone, any final thoughts on anything?
Specifically, Japan or anything.
Anything you wanted to touch on or get off your chest before we wrap?
I think Bella, who's Bella?
Me?
Yeah, you said that your ex-boyfriend plotted to kill your current BS.
And then they're friends now?
No.
Wait, what?
What?
So I used to date this guy, and he was a very interesting guy.
He was an international Chinese guy, actually.
I met him in college, and we dated, and he was one of my serious first relationship boyfriends.
And I broke up with him.
But before I broke up, he was going through some stuff.
So I suggested, hey, you know what?
Why don't you write down things?
Like, I don't know, in your diary or whatever.
So he did.
Once I completely broke up with him and I found his diary, I read it and he said that he would stap my next boyfriend in the eye.
Yeah.
Good times.
He didn't.
How sweet.
Yeah, it's sweet.
It's a passionate love.
He loved you so much.
No, yeah, he's good.
You don't want other people to see you.
Yeah, no, he's good.
He's married.
Like, he seems happy.
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody married him.
So it's good.
Anyone else?
Any final thoughts?
Any last-minute topics you'd like to touch on before we wrap up here?
I don't think so.
I didn't think.
Worried.
You said you wanted to touch on modern dating has skewed our ideas of what a human connection relationship is.
I've talked to friends who have said that is overwhelming, risky, and exhausting, and it seems to have gone in this way from hookup culture.
Definitely.
I'm not a huge fan of hookup culture either.
I think it does.
You don't know now if hooking up, like how are you going to go into a relationship?
Okay, let me start over.
Modern dating is hard now because I think everyone just wants to hook up.
There's like, why have one if you could have five?
That's, I think, very big in what people are thinking now.
So they don't want to date.
It's harder to date.
I feel like it's hard.
Yeah.
Finding someone that wants commitment is hard.
Yeah.
So that's very, very hard.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of issues with the hookup culture.
One is people are not very honest and self-aware as to what their intentions are.
Two, I think there is an issue with consent when it comes to hookups.
Sometimes, you know, we might say one thing, but then do another thing, and then there's an issue with that.
For example, you know, a girl might say, hey, let's hang out, but we're not going to sleep together.
But then you guys hang out and then you do end up sleeping.
But it's like you said no at first and then you change your opinion.
So I think there's a lot of issues with how you phrase things and with consent specifically.
And yeah, I just think we just lost all human touch to it.
Yeah.
And I also feel like people are more business focused these days.
So they're not really looking for relationships.
They're looking to further their career.
And that gets in the way.
Oh, that's an interesting point.
Yeah.
Like using sex as a to get ahead kind of thing.
I think that always existed, though.
Yeah.
Also, expectations now.
Lay Grossman donated $100.
I'm going to have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you.
You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
Let's go.
I am talking scorched turf.
Okay, Les Grossman.
Okay, thank you very much.
Is he talking to you?
Damn, that's passion.
That's hot.
Yeah, that is something.
For sure.
That was certainly a choice.
That was okay.
Thank you, Les Grossman, for that.
That was beautiful.
Okay.
Did you have a final thought on anything before we wrap up?
Going for a minute.
Follow me on Instagram at Julia Lynn Sandoval.
Link is in the bio.
Yeah.
Onlyvic.com.
Let's go.
Taylor Strong.
Yeah, I think that's it.
I mean, the only we've already gone pretty long here.
Red flags.
You know what we could do?
Maybe I'll do, if any of you want to stick around, I'll do like a 20-30-minute after-show.
That's when we like turn the lights down.
So maybe we can do that.
But maybe turn all the lights down and then what?
No, it's like a what?
It's like, you know, turn off the lights.
I don't know if the lights are light.
It's like more, it's like mood lighting.
Right.
It's mood lighting.
It's like the after show.
It's like more changes.
There's a bunch of OF girls here and the ones that turn down the lights.
Whoa.
What are your intentions?
I'm kidding.
Brian, MGTA.
It's a yellow card for you.
That's okay.
Okay, cool.
Let's see here.
Anyone red flags?
Let's go around the table.
Red flags.
Any red flags?
And what?
That either you have or that are red flags for you.
I don't like sushi.
That's my dad.
That's a red flag for you.
Okay.
Yeah, a lot of people think it's a red flag.
I don't like any seafood either.
I hate seafood.
Here, I'll give one.
If she's a van lifer.
Oh, fuck.
If she's a van lifer, that's a red flag.
What's a van lifer?
They live in their van and they like travel around and shit.
Like, I've seen them on dating apps.
And like, you have to understand, as a guy, if you see a chick who's a van lifer on a dating app and she's like, oh, I'm in town for two days and she's on a dating app.
She hooks up with.
She hooks up with a new dude every new city she's in and she uses them for a shower, for like a bed okay, I have one.
If she has an Instagram but doesn't have an OnlyFans and doesn't have another any other job that you have like spoken with her about and is in a different country every month, red flag like sugar daddies, yeah, she's got a job.
All right, I'll put it that way.
Yeah no, that's not me.
Are you calling ourselves out?
Let's make that louder okay uh, for me a lot.
My personal red flag is, again being impatient, and I guess for a guy it would be just very insecure.
Any red flags for you?
Insecure guy.
Insecure guy.
Okay anything anybody, anyone.
People are like rude to people that like at a restaurant, they're rude to a waiter, or like just people that you nobody sees, you like somebody who's rude to wait staff, anything like anybody like, even though you're out in public and no one sees you or knows you and you have no like benefit from react, interacting with that person.
I think just kindness to all people that you all interact like, interact with is sexy and people who are just like rude and like not kind in general is just like a really big turn off.
Like I, generally it's kind of mean, but it's honest.
What is it?
If he's a 10 and he's dating a girl?
That's a three.
That's a red flag.
There's many reasons why he's a red flag.
When he's physically a 10 and he's dating a female who's physically a three red flag.
What if it's love?
Yeah, red flag, that's love.
With a three.
She's probably so nice red flag.
What do you think like?
What do you think?
What do you think his intentions are?
That I don't know.
You think it's like a power thing, I think.
I think it could be control.
I think it could be.
The girl has a wealthy family, I think it could be.
He's broke and she has money, I think.
I think it could be a lot of things.
But men think very logically and also tend to uh, be more sexually aggressive than females.
So that's all.
I think it's a little bit disavow.
Oh beneath, the offender donated 99 or he's gay.
Doesn't date guys with an android red flag.
Would anyone here like would not date a guy because of a phone?
No, but that's fine.
That's fine.
That's weird.
Leave him alone.
I think it's because maybe Apple is associated with wealth or something.
Like more wealthy people have Apple, but I think it's a stupid reason.
Wait, question.
Let's say a guy, he's risen you up, he's running some game, and you're into him.
You're feeling him.
He's about to ask for your number, and you're would be otherwise prepared to give him your number.
However, when he pulls out his phone, it's a flip phone.
I knew I created it.
He's got a flip phone.
Oh, shoot.
Burn razor.
Cringe.
Is it just done?
Do you reconsider giving him your number?
I gotta give it to him for the fun of it.
I'm gonna look around and see who's filming and where the joke is at this point.
No, I feel like it's like, it's kind of.
No one has a flip phone up.
It's the type of guy who's like, oh, I don't want to participate in societal norms.
I want to be unique and different.
So I'm going to have a flip phone.
So I don't.
Yeah, I think that's going to be cringe.
No one has a flip phone.
Nobody has a flip phone.
No one has a flip phone, so this isn't even happening.
No one's having a flip phone.
Okay, how about this?
How about this?
Same circumstances, but he pulls out one that's going to be a little bit more.
Yo, miss me, bro.
Jesus.
No, no, no, no.
I'm going to ask to borrow it for an Instagram photo shoot.
That's what I'm going to ask.
Trust me.
In the 90s.
Kind of fired.
Finn A.
Yeah.
That's funny.
I know another red flag.
What's a red flag?
What's your name?
Like a bad texter.
Like, doesn't right?
Oh my God.
If you can't text me, good night, and like throughout the day.
No.
No, not throughout the day.
I disagree.
There's levels to the texting and the like building a relationship.
You unfold it like an onion.
I don't want you up my ass the second we meet.
Well, no, no, it doesn't have to be the second you meet, but like eventually.
If like I'm dating that person for a while, then I hope I'm the first thing they think about when they wake up and the first thing they think about when they go to sleep.
Yeah, that's sweet.
But we're talking about red flags, so I don't think we're even there yet, right?
Because it's immediate reaction.
They don't care about their appearance.
It's kind of a red flag.
Like if they're going out of the hygiene all the time, are you guys just like talking about me right now?
Like when they just look gross, like room, you're dressed, you're fine.
I'm wearing sweatpants.
No, I feel like, yeah, I totally agree with you.
Like, I feel like even once you're in a relationship and stuff like that, you should never settle down when it comes to your looks.
You should always look good for your partner.
Literally, comfy life is a good idea.
I have a good one.
I have a good one.
Guys who are disrespectful to their moms or to animals, red flag.
Everyone can agree on that.
You can learn a lot about a guy.
I can't be disrespectful to my parents.
Absolutely.
Definitely, yeah.
I also have another one.
Men who put down other people's views and can't have an open-minded conversation, but just immediately knock it down.
Can't even listen.
You talking about me?
No, just because I'm looking at you.
You literally had a four-hour conversation with us.
Yeah, you were respectful.
That applies to everything.
Yeah.
Anything else?
Ooh.
What do you guys think about if you were to see, get into a man's car that you're on a first date with and you see that he has condoms in his middle console?
Ooh.
Is that a red flag for you?
I feel like he should be able to see that and know.
Yeah.
Yeah, especially in this heat.
At least you know, but it could be good.
Like usually he's protecting.
Yeah.
It could be a good thing.
Also, him having that there on the first day is also extremely presumptuous.
Yeah, maybe you should put him there just in case.
Just in case.
Like not in the car.
What if he's a tena but has an ADHD?
I have ADHD.
That's me and you.
No, that's fine.
I have ADHD.
That's not a red flag.
I love ADHD, honestly.
It keeps the conversation rolling, truly.
Good times.
Good times.
Okay, I think that's it for the super chats and everything.
All right.
Sweet guys.
Okay, cool.
So we're going to wrap up there.
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And yeah, so actually, Elizabeth, can you do the after-show?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
We'll have Elizabeth run the after show.
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Wait, can somebody play the Simba fucking?
Ah, Savannah.
Okay.
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I have a good panel for us.
Got some interesting guests coming.
And can we get some 07s in the chat?
Oh, yeah, Madison, she's just gone for the week.
She will be back.
Yeah, she's just out of town for July 4th.
So we are doing a July 4th show, by the way, guys.
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We will be live.
You will probably hear the fireworks going off outside of our studio in any case.
But yeah, let me see some 07s or 07s.
Yeah, 07s in the chat.
Hope you guys have a good night.
We will see you next time.
Good night, guys.
And yeah, stick around for a few minutes.
We'll do a 10 to 15 minute after show.
Eric, if you can hit the lights.
Okay, cool.
Boom.
Come on.
Okay.
This is nice.
Good show.
After show.
So what?
Wait, what are we doing?
What's the after show for?
You can get up if you want.
Yes.
It's just like, what happens behind the scenes?
Wait, we're not streaming here!
No, we are!
We are!
This is a stream, yeah!
Wait, go!
Prosecco?
Wait a minute.
Can I open a Prosecco on stream or not?
Because I'm a professional Prosecco opener.
You're a professional Prosecco opener.
Yes.
Is that allowed?
Is it, yeah?
Okay.
All right, but.
I wonder what the sec.
I wonder what you're doing right now.
What's that?
I wonder what the guys are doing.
All right.
Let me do this as a professional.
All right.
So, that's how you do this shed.
This thing, I keep like looking over.
I think this is a human.
I'm like, every time I'm like this, I'm like, Jesus.
Is it okay?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You just can't like pass out.
Yeah, but we're definitely far away from that.
Yes, we're talking.
Oh, okay.
They're just watching me open this up.
Hi, chat.
That scared the shit out of me.
I forgot you were doing that.
That scared me.
Safe.
Not dangerous.
Who wants what?
What?
You want?
Yeah.
This is notorious.
I love how the Twitch girl is drinking.
Do you guys have to drive back?
No.
They're riding with me home.
Yeah.
Guys, I'm so boring.
Oh, that's what you meant.
No, you're a good girl.
I don't drink or smoke.
I'm not driving.
Yeah, we have our husband's driving us.
I'm so boring, guys.
I don't drink or smoke.
You're holding my cup.
Oh, this is your cup?
No, no, the double cups.
Oh, okay.
Okay, I was supposed to.
Oh, this is a lot.
Give it to me.
What?
Oh, my God.
How do you guys pass a taste?
Can you help me?
Isn't that like bitter?
Like, super bitter?
It really depends on the alcohol.
Really?
Yeah.
Some wines can be really sweet, some can be a little bitter.
It depends on the grape and if the skin is used.
Let's go.
Should I try one sub?
Cheers.
You want to?
I don't think you would like this one, but this is a good try.
That's a good start.
It's prosecco.
Prosecco is typically a little sweeter.
It's used as a mix, typically.
Yes, it's hello, kid.
It's cringe just hot.
Shut up.
Okay.
I'll get you a cup.
Do they only use one camera for the after nine time?
Or are they just taking a break?
Guys, I want to drink it.
I don't know if I'm supposed to move or not.
Yeah, it's not an expensive bottle.
Absolutely.
He's going to give me a workout routine.
I literally had a chill during that while we were talking I was like, no.
So you're doing the Harlem shake.
Yeah, I know.
He's friends with Chase, who's been on the show.
Oh my god, I can't fucking spell.
There it goes.
Jesus Christ.
What's the ball?
Like, I think you saw the house before I like reach out to you the first night.
Zerka would demolish this podcast.
Yeah.
It would be fucking crazy.
I need a stand.
I know.
I kind of need a stand too.
Just a little bit.
I was wanting to come on.
I just wanted to reach out to you guys.
Sweetie.
I was just doing it.
But.
Oh my god.
Damn.
Zerka would have all of us in tears.
I don't know.
Zerka likes to use girls as a content, but I like.
It depends on the energy you give him back.
Who doesn't know Zerka?
Ready?
Are you ready?
Oh, my God.
Wait, can they hear me?
I literally need to respond to that.
I would try one sub for you guys, okay?
I'm trying to chill everyone.
Just one.
Wait, can you guys hear me?
Or the microphone's muted.
Can they hear it?
No, no, no.
They can hear it.
Yeah, okay, where did he go?
Where is this guy that has been so sweet this whole stream?
The Zara guy?
Yeah, this is her personality.
No, Johnny.
Johnny.
He's been literally like messaging me this entire stream.
Just saying Julia Lynn, Julia Lynn, over and over and over and over again.
How do you like it?
How do you like it?
Where'd you go?
It's different.
It was like Johnny something.
It's different.
What does different mean?
Where you guys are different than you guys hear?
Can you guys hear us?
Yeah, they can hear us.
Johnny.
I'm drinking us up.
Yeah, they can hear us.
Thank you, Jesus.
Yeah.
Okay, nice to meet you, guys.
Nice to meet you.
It's like bubbly in the back.
It's very bubbly.
Which mics do you want?
Okay, I tried to say hi to you.
Bye.
I'll bring Christiana next time.
Bye, guys.
Who's Christiana?
Oh, my friend, I'm a friend.
I'll take care of myself, guys.
Bye, girl.
Thank you for nice to meet you, Joanna.
Yes, nice to meet you.
Ah!
She doesn't want to say bye Is it a Pomeranian?
Bella is the official mascot of the board.
That is so cute.
Really?
Oh.
Oh, they're saying hey, Vince.
Thank you so much for coming again.
Nice to see you.
Good to see you again.
Great to see you.
The dog's name is Bella.
Hola mi amor, como estas.
Nice to see you guys.
Go ahead.
Thank you so much for coming.
Appreciate it.
This is Elizabeth.
This was great.
I'm going to restroom.
I'll be back.
I think I do want the Canada sniper.
He was busting.
Yeah, we're famous.
Brian needs a wingman.
You could be his wingman.
Is your boyfriend a stripper?
No, he's a bunny.
He's like a herdale.
He's a big ball.
Did I just hear the boyfriend is a stripper?
TJ, sometimes.
That's funny.
Sometimes it's a little bit of a double.
Si, lo siento.
Estoy in Arizona.
But you need to get him on yours to a show soon.
Did they do the body count?
Yeah, we did.
Show the fit.
I was like, dude, you missed your chance.
Oh, Crassus.
Thank you.
Take care of him on stage later.
Day escaparo parusque.
Private.
Yes, my glasses are fake to everyone who is asking.
I know it just makes you so mad.
It just made you so mad that my glasses are fake.
Why are we doing it?
Because we're having fun.
It's a 4th of July weekend.
Let's party it out.
Cheers.
4th of July.
Happy 4th of July weekend, everyone.
We're reading YouTube chat.
We need Jesus.
We totally do.
We are going to go on the boat, right, Victoria?
I'm not sure yet.
I'm not sure yet.
Hopefully, we're going to go on the boat.
Oh, careful.
Depends on things.
Wait, can they hear my nose if I'm like.
Oh, my God.
I don't know.
You have to speak up.
Day is good.
Day is good.
It was a great stream.
Really enjoyed it.
Great conversations.
It was really good.
It is a little sad that Bottom G couldn't come, but it was great.
You heard my nose all stream?
You better be lying.
Please.
Please tell me you're lying.
The weather's a little chilly.
Bye.
Thank you for letting me come over here.
Let's go.
Crucify.
Oh, we got it.
Yeah, Miss Morgan.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hi.
Every Sunday and Tuesday.
I'm going to see if I know people in here.
Do you guys come back on the show?
Of course.
Of course, we come back on the show.
Yeah.
I feel like it would be really cool to have individuals with different opinions so we can actually have a like a debate debate, but it was great.
Taylor, do you have some Italian news?
It was definitely very chill stream.
I love that.
I do make really good pasta though.
But no, I'm as white as white can be.
Okay.
I got my fruit, boys.
How long is this?
Magno, my name's Taylor Starlight.
Taylor Starlight.
Oh, just like five minutes.
Does somebody like lonely over here?
Thank you, Crispy.
Does anybody want to join my side so it's like more background?
I'll do it.
Oh, okay.
Wait, what are we doing?
Sorry on that side.
My name is Taylor Starlight.
So I shouldn't eat into the microphone.
No, definitely do that.
ASMR. After party is just like ASMR.
That's just fun.
By the way, today was Elizabeth's first day trying alcohol.
What?
Have you ever tried alcohol before?
Like any type of alcohol?
Are you serious?
Wait, you've never had.
No, I never had alcohol.
Now you can say your first sip of alcohol was Hell Kitty, Prosecco.
Yep.
It reminds me of.
You've never even had like a sip of wine or fear?
No, I never had the intention to.
Wow, you guys are, I leave her alone for 10 minutes and you guys.
Look what happens.
We were responsible.
It was a sip.
You bought her lick.
Lick her down.
It's starting.
Within a week, she's going to have an only thing.
I have one soul.
I have a bad thing.
We have dolls.
Don't bring anybody around us.
We're dangerous.
Who's a bottom G?
Bottom G is a guy who looks like Andrew Tate, but does really fun dances.
He was going to be on the show.
Yeah.
He literally missed his bus.
Unfortunate.
He was going to ride with you guys, right?
And then he...
Yeah, it was just a lot of back and forth and stuff.
And then he missed the bus.
He missed the bus.
Ripped.
Stop crafting our Elizabeth.
We do apologize.
No, you destroy my innocence.
It was a sit.
It was one sip.
Whatever.
Next time we're going to try Dirty Martinis.
Oh, gosh.
That's like going from zero to 100.
Exactly.
Isn't it that bad?
Martinis is literally just straight alcohol.
That's my favorite drink.
Yeah.
It's just vodka and vermouth.
Don't listen to these sinners.
Start off with something like get her like a Coors Light or something.
Get her like a wine cooler.
How long?
Bring Zirka.
Would you ever bring Zirka?
I thought he said he's been supposed to be on today's show.
He was on another podcast.
No, honestly, I think.
I might try to get him for the fourth, maybe, but I don't know.
I think, honestly, it's because the traffic for the 4th of July and everything.
Dude, it's going to be so bad.
It was so bad.
It was so.
It's going to be really bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We drove all the way from Wisconsin, Wisconsin Dells.
Shout out to Wisconsin Dells.
So, yeah, it was just a long ass traffic.
Yeah.
It's like it was saying four hours, and then we would look at the thing, and the time would just not change.
It was supposed to be two and a half hours, and it took four hours.
Long Island I see, that's when you want to forget about your past and welcome your new demons.
That's when you drink long.
Check my DMs.
I check my DMs, guys.
Ooh, you actually respond to yourself.
She friend zones all of them, though.
No, no, I read every single one.
Well, you read them.
Yeah, of course.
Would you date any of them?
I'm not going to say friends on them.
I don't like that term anymore.
I just say friend.
Well, would you friendly?
Would you ever date to any of your fans?
I would.
Like, being obsessed with me, I'm serious.
I literally dated us for what when I was in the middle of the day.
Like, I don't mind if a guy's obsessed with you?
Yeah.
Alcohol ow, totally.
Don't drink.
Be a responsible.
Is that normal?
Wait.
Is it not normal?
Like.
I got.
Right?
Wait, what's don't you want him to be into you?
Yeah, but I think obsess is different.
Sorry, Brian.
Go ahead.
Oh, I mean, you did say you want a guy who's like constantly texting you and like a good texter.
I feel like I'm a.
No, you know, like, feel like I'm a great texter, boys.
Okay.
Elizabeth, I'm going to marry you.
You're a sarcastic.
Elizabeth.
She's going to look at you.
You text all day.
But at any moment, if you have a period of time where you're just like, it's the culture that asks me.
Not doing anything.
Or if I'm on your mind, like, just pick up the phone and be like, hey, thinking about you.
I'm really busy right now, but we can talk later.
Or maybe not.
But at least you said that.
At least you said something.
But I feel like girls don't like clingy guys.
Like, if you're so-clingy.
I don't know.
You gotta be careful.
Again, Chad, it's all about having, like, you know, your own life, your own friends doing things, you know, like madness possibly texting.
Clingy is if he gets mad when you don't text back.
That's clingy.
Yo, that's weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's obsessive.
Yeah.
She's a narcissist too, who ate me?
Totally.
Yeah.
Elizabeth, they're all fighting for you.
How are you going to pick the best?
See, now she's had a sip of alcohol.
She's DMs.
DM her.
Guys, I'm checking my ID right now.
Oh, I'm checking my ID.
This girl's a genius.
Yeah, she's checking her IG right now.
She looks like AI generated.
Bro, how do you guys feel about AI taking over very soon?
That's going to be crazy shit.
Literally, already Twitter is filled with AI OF girl bots.
Yeah.
I mean, how was yesterday where they were limiting everyone's tweets to just 600?
Oh my gosh.
Oh, he changed it.
That was going to be ridiculous.
Yeah.
That was ridiculous.
Yeah.
That was ridiculous.
And it counted comments, too.
By the way, you have an accent.
Where are you?
Where are you from?
I'm from America.
You're born in the U.S.?
Yeah, totally afterwards.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
You're very mysterious.
Run, I'm paranoid, okay?
It's a paranoia.
Okay, you guys read that one.
Good tones.
Good tonight.
If you want to know like an embarrassing story, it's not really embarrassing.
It's more like, I'm kind of lame.
Okay, like I was invited to like Comic-Con the after party.
It was like a club party.
I like drove like an hour to go over because I knew the because I worked for Comic-Con at that time as a model.
Okay.
This was like maybe like three months ago, so recent.
Because I knew the owner that ran Comic-Con, he invited me into the party.
I drove one hour.
I went to the club.
I invited another girl.
So then we planned to meet up.
I was in the club for like five minutes and I left.
It was kind of sad.
Like, I walked around because the club is in my vibe.
That's the thing.
The club's in what?
Isn't that her vibe?
Wait, you were meeting a guy there?
No, no, no, just to hang out.
And that was my first time ever at a club.
Texas message.
Yeah, my clubs suck.
Clubs are overrated.
Oh, yeah, they're overrated.
Are they?
I was only in a club for five minutes the first time I went, but there was for a different reason.
I got kicked out.
Chad, just because I speak Russian doesn't mean I am Russian.
She's Kazakh from Kazakhstan?
No.
You're Bella Russian?
No, I'm not Russian.
You're Ukrainian?
Nope.
Why are you?
Why are you guys trying to guess?
It's secret.
She's very private.
She'll tell us after the show.
Okay.
It's for your own protection.
It's all in protection.
Love and respect.
Borad.
Borad is Kazakhstan.
It's not the same.
Bro, I'm not Russian.
God damn it.
Thank you for studying that.
Now everybody thinks I'm Russian.
I speak only two languages.
How many languages do you speak?
Me.
Only English, sadly.
You don't speak Vietnamese?
I understand Vietnamese every single word.
But when I try to speak it, it's just it doesn't come out, you know?
I'm the same with French.
Well, actually, I speak French.
Why French?
Well, I was born in France, and then I moved to the U.S. when I was five.
See, I'm kind of like that, because in Canada, you have to learn French until like grade eight, and then everything that you buy in Canada is in English and French.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because what happened is I moved here when I was five to the U.S. My dad would speak French to me, but then I would respond in English.
So I understand French better than I can speak it.
So, yeah.
I know a little bit of Spanish, and that's it.
Rip.
But you don't speak any Vietnamese basic phrases, you know, like high, bye.
What's high in Vietnamese?
What's the language called in Vietnamese?
It's called Vietnamese.
Vietnamese, yeah.
Sin Tao means high.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm wondering if I know any Vietnamese.
I know how to.
Actually, like, because my mom taught me how to cook like all traditional Vietnamese food.
So I know how to make all of the Vietnamese.
Is that Vietnamese?
Yeah, Fa is Vietnamese.
Traditional Vietnamese.
How are you pants of sandwich?
It's ban me.
Ban.
Bun mee.
Bun me.
Yeah.
And then bun is like noodles, right?
Like cold noodles with stuff on top.
Which one?
Bun.
Oh, bun?
Boon?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
Awkward.
You guys like it?
Do you guys like Vietnamese food or like?
I love Vietnamese food.
Do you love it?
Fa is like my number one hangover food.
Oh, imagine if you have like a pho party.
I can't do it.
If you start cooking it for me.
See, my thing is, I just don't like rice noodles.
I don't know why.
I like everyone.
They're like the best one.
No.
They're healthier for you.
It's less county.
That's why I don't like them.
Bella is 35.
Yo, Bella.
Are you 35?
Absolutely not.
I'm 69.
I told you.
Somebody in the chat is saying that you're 35.
I'm 69.
I'm a fucking gilf.
You're a gilf?
Gilf.
I'm ready to.
I took some milf.
No, it's a gilf.
We're gonna wrap in two minutes at 12-12.
That is the lucky number.
Okay.
Interesting.
So what's everyone's here thoughts on the current border dispute in Turkey?
Whoa, in Turkey.
I don't.
I've been in a bubble, so I don't know.
You should talk about Paris.
The Paris one is crazy.
And there's a Twitch con.
I know.
TwitchCon Paris is happening.
Yeah.
So they're protesting in Paris and TwitchCon is in Paris.
The French love a good protest.
Yeah.
That's the fucking answer.
It's true.
The French.
That's their whole part of being French.
It's part of the thing, you know, so it's like.
That's really in Broadway.
Do you know the Canadian national anthem?
Do you know how to do it?
See you going to have fun me.
Who's going to be a little bit more of a child?
Yesterday was Canada Day.
Canada.
Our home.
Is there a French version?
There is.
Okay, when I was in school, it would be like the first part would be English, and then the second half, they'd have us sing it in French, but I can't remember it.
Word.
I mean, I feel like the French national anthem is.
I don't know.
You've never heard the French national anthem.
I'm sure I've heard it.
We did hate Ryan.
Yeah, Ryan.
It's a yes or no question.
Oh, shoot.
Putting you on the spot.
What the fuck?
Brian, you okay?
How you feel?
I mean, it's just a regular day.
You can answer it if you want.
Yeah, go ahead.
You said that he was a high-valued man.
I'm going to say I was.
Where are you taking me?
Where are you taking me?
Hold on.
I shouldn't have been speaking right there.
You want to repeat it?
What?
Wait, what did you say?
I would.
Like, seriously, you're not going to lie.
Oh, okay.
Where are you taking me on our first date?
Are you adventurous?
Adventurous?
I'm adventurous.
When you fly, you say you fly all the time.
Do you go private or are you first class?
Are you economy?
No, usually I'm like.
Oh, my God.
Brian, you've been friend zoned.
That was such an obvious friend zone.
Huh?
Huh?
Wait, what?
What?
Wait, what?
It's okay.
Go home.
Go ahead, Oliver.
No, I drive.
When I fly, we fly regular.
We fly regular like normal.
Fly regular?
Yeah, like Southwest, whatever is on sale.
Because, I mean, you said go on an adventure.
Like, if you're going to take...
Did someone just fart?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, like.
Adventurous, as in, like, adventurous.
I'm like, adventurous, as in, like, horseback riding.
You know, like, horseback rating.
Horseback riding.
Yeah, do something.
Oh, I like robot parasail.
I'm like, sailing.
Do you like parasailing?
Oh, parasailing is nice.
Hiking.
Yeah.
Oh, that's nice.
Going to Disneyland or something or whatever, an amusement park.
Adorable.
This is much better.
Totally.
That's a good question.
100%.
Okay, so we have a joke that I was holding in the car on the way over.
That's the joke.
One of our managers farted in the car.
You can say it's my husband.
It's okay.
Whatever.
Your husband.
Wait, your husband.
Yes.
Your husband farted in the car.
But the doors rolled up with four people in the car.
Well, she was talking about this nice thing.
And then I was like, oh, my dad.
The doors up.
And then he says to everybody, he's like, forcing you to help me.
No.
Me and Elizabeth.
It's all spelled and it was a lot of fun.
I got her.
Good times.
I'm going to take out Elizabeth Return.
Oh, he says.
You guys are a pizza.
It's a wifey material.
I'm going to wipe her off.
You fucking assholes.
All the love and respect.
Oh, my God.
Wait, Alan, is he like involved in the future?
Do you think we're on a California adventure?
In terms of Twitch or both, you're gorgeous.
Oh, thank you.
What's he do for work?
Is he retired or not?
Yeah, you think that a first day is fun.
He basically helps me manage.
No, no, we work together.
I think it's nice.
We've been streaming together non-stop for 10 years.
Bella knows how to seduce using math.
Wait, are you guys on Kik or Twitch?
We're both kicking.
We do both, but.
Yeah, we do both.
I'm on.
Did you get a deal from Kick or Twitter?
Elizabeth's greatest adventure on the works.
Well, I mean, I remember.
Bro, you know what Elizabeth's greatest adventure is going to be?
You know, hang out with me.
I'm going to rizz the shit out of Donaldson and Alan Farnham.
Be so amazing.
It's hard to say that, but I feel like i'll do a better job.
That was funny actually.
They said that's an expensive first date.
I know, Disneyland is kind of expensive.
I'm not gonna lie, you know.
You know what's like.
Yeah, sometimes something super nice is literally um.
I said you can go hiking or just stare at the sunset going down.
That that's like super cheap.
That's like what?
That's nothing.
That's a good date.
Yeah, good times, just like walking, just talking, like in enjoying nature, watching the sunset.
What about like Mcdonald's, would you?
Is that like a good first date?
You think she's smiling?
Definitely like that's classy it's, it's kind of cute.
It's like it's different.
When we buy you a happy meal no, just take the girl to a really cute coffee shop with like a really cool aesthetics and stuff.
There's no reason, for Mcdonald's coffee shop is gonna cost you less, if not the same price word, all right, we have Mert Mex here.
Uh, do you like a guy who can cook?
I would cook you a really amazing dinner for you.
Elizabeth, I own a catering business.
Okay, do you want to answer that?
Of course, I like a guy that knows how to cook.
That'll be cool.
So then I don't have to do it all the time.
That would be good and you could cater your things, your events, that you have your secret cult meetings.
I feel like Mcdonald's is a great place to go on a first date, because if you can have fun at a Mcdonald's, then you can have fun anywhere.
But I feel like it should be a follow-up, like do something and that's that was what I was saying, like like yeah, get Mcdonald's, maybe get like a whole thing and like do like a picnic with it and go like look at the stars or something.
Okay, you know, i'll wrap on this point here.
Uh, I actually took a girl to Mcdonald's once for a first date, but that wasn't the initial plan.
Like we, we were gonna go to In Nut, which is a much more upscale bougie sort of place.
Oh my god, the line was so long.
You didn't make a reservation.
You can't make a reservation.
Ethnicity doesn't matter.
What ethnicity doesn't matter?
No, they're saying, would Elizabeth date from an another ethnic group?
Yeah word word, um.
So the line's too long at IN N OUT.
So i'm like yo, we could.
I mean, it's not ideal, but we could go to Mcdonald's.
And she was so pissed off that we went to Mcdonald's.
She was really upset.
I would love.
Yeah, I was like yo.
It's gonna take us like 45 minutes to get food.
I'm trying to eat some more.
Honestly, right now, Mcdonald's is actually more money than IN N OUT.
No no, I don't know how to say.
More expensive no no no, here's how you should have said.
I don't know how to say, but it's, the quality is more.
Here's how you should have said, if you're just like what you got, that's what you got.
No Brian, here's what you should have said, that hey, let's grab some Mcdonald's fries and then like mcflurry's because they're delicious, we'll wait in line.
You, this way, you're gonna get a Mcdonald's but you're also not gonna kind of like, you know, put her down, but just taking her to Mcdonald's on the first date.
So as long as I get fries in the mcflurry, it's okay.
But if we get mischief, it's not an official dinner dinner.
Yes true true, all right, cool guys, we're gonna wrap there.
Uh, thank you guys for sticking around for the uh little after show we did.
Uh, hope you guys have a good night.
Let's see some 07s in the uh chat.
Uh, some 07s in the chat guys, that'd be much appreciated.
Did we get a super chat?
That just came in?
Or wait, Tj King's super chat is still up there.
That's weird.
Hold on, let me just wait here.
Just a sec.
Wait, let me see.
Sorry guys, my chat's all scuffed um 07s in the chat.
Yep, spam the 07s guys, spam the 07s uh.
Okay uh here, i'm gonna put it over here and then i'm gonna seven.
Oh, it's like a little yeah, so you guys use some oh sevens and then Alright, thanks for seeing you guys.
Thanks, Brian.
Thank you for hosting us.
Yeah, thanks.
Do a little sweet 07s.
Thank you guys.
Bye.
Alright.
Bye.
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