Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #79

June 6, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #79

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	Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	I'm Nadi Snow.
	I'm 26, and I'm an OnlyFans model.
	I'm Erica Lattiser.
	My occupation is social media, and I prioritize my time on OnlyFans, Instagram, and TikTok.
	Sorry, I'm so nervous.
	No, it's fine.
	You're fine.
	You're fine.
	Did you say your age?
	I don't say my age.
	What?
	Why is that?
	Because I believe that people try to determine my knowledge based off my age.
	Well, no one here at this table is making any assumptions, but.
	That's okay.
	So you are declining the age question.
	Yes.
	Are you saying you're more knowledgeable than you look?
	Or what?
	Which way are we going?
	No, because I think that I'm younger, and I believe that most of the times when you're having an intellectual conversation with somebody, it is very hard to state your points without having...
	Sorry, I'm so nervous right now.
	Do you have an accent, by the way?
	I'm from Canada.
	Oh, you're from Canada.
	Yeah, no, my heart's being excited.
	Do you speak French?
	Are you from the French-speaking part?
	I'm part French, but I don't speak French.
	But I just, like, sorry, what I was saying was, like, basically, like, growing up, having people look down at me because I'm younger, I've learned a lot in how to speak to people and properly speak in the sense of in person.
	This is a little new.
	I mean, you are at least 18.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So you don't want to be judged because of your age when it comes to how people perceive your intellect?
	Yes.
	What if you told people your real age?
	Well, I don't know, let's say you're 20.
	And then they're like, wow, I'm blown away by how smart this 20-year-old is.
	It could actually do you a big favor, right?
	Huge favor.
	Yeah, I think it can go both ways, but that's just my preference.
	Are there any other basic biographical things that you're going to choose to omit during this stream?
	Well, I just started making music, so that's another part of my occupation.
	That's not entirely what I meant, but let me ask, if a celebrity were to ask you to reveal your age right now, would you do it?
	For example, Shai LaBeouf.
	Just do it!
	Can you just tell us your age, please?
	This is gonna keep playing until you.
	So just do it!
	Shia is very persistent.
	So am I. Just do it!
	Should we guess?
	Like, whoever wins.
	It's going to keep playing.
	Nothing is impossible.
	Nothing is impossible.
	Does your social media say you're 20?
	I have a famous birthday, so I'm pretty sure that says it.
	Christmas, not in my bio.
	Oh, okay.
	Can you give us a range?
	A range?
	Yeah, into the mic, please.
	Right.
	Like, are you 20?
	I'll say 25.
	18 to 25 is my range.
	There you go.
	So, okay.
	Why don't you want to share your age?
	Because I don't want people to judge me based off my intellect.
	I think we had that.
	I mean, aren't there plenty of other reasons why people could judge you?
	Yeah, but I think that...
	Like, is age really the primary factor that people are going to judge you by?
	No.
	There's not one other thing that someone might judge you by.
	I'm not supposed to myself, right?
	So, and I stand by that.
	You what?
	I stand by that.
	But the reason I'm kind of being persistent and pushing back on you on this is if you're so prepared to refuse to answer such a simple biographical question, I mean, what other questions are you going to choose to not engage in?
	What if more people are judging you because you won't say it than if you had just said it?
	That's okay.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, she's not going to say it.
	People are entitled to their own opinions, and I'm open to hearing other people's opinions.
	All right.
	Okay.
	We're going to let it slide.
	We're going to keep moving.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I'm Tiffany Madison.
	I'm 30, and I'm an adult film star and an OnlyFans model.
	Okay.
	Thank you for disclosing your age.
	Appreciate it.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Aliam Bran.
	I'm an adult film star, and I'm 23.
	Okay, thank you for sharing your age.
	Appreciate it.
	Hi, I'm Eliza Eaves.
	I'm 24 and I'm an adult film star.
	Thank you so much for sharing your age.
	Much appreciated.
	What about you?
	I'm Bernadine.
	I am a dating and marriage coach.
	You can find me on Instagram, fearless.femininity.
	Did you say your age?
	32.
	32.
	Thank you for disclosing that.
	Appreciate it.
	What about you, Kelly?
	Hi, I'm Kelly.
	I'm 21, and I'm a branded stylist through Nordstrom, and I do content creation and social media for them.
	And I'm also a student at Cal State Northridge.
	Brock, you said 21, right?
	Yep.
	Thank you for disclosing your age.
	Appreciate it.
	What about you?
	My name is Matt, or Stay Safe Online.
	That's my streamer name.
	I'm a Twitch streamer.
	I'm 29, and I also own a caffeine gum business.
	It's called Power Gum.
	It's called Power Gum.
	Check that out, guys.
	Check out his stream.
	It's is it twitch.tv/slash staysafe TV.
	Stay safe TV.
	Staysafe TV.
	Check out his stream, guys.
	He's a fucking Chad World of Warcraft gamer.
	You play other games too, right?
	No.
	Just World of Warcraft.
	Just World of Warcraft.
	Why else would you ever play a different game?
	Are you going to be.
	You're currently playing hardcore, right?
	Yeah.
	Hell yeah.
	Okay.
	Warlock.
	Yep.
	Warlock.
	Gnome?
	Gnome.
	What do you play, though?
	I quit.
	So I used to play in vanilla back in like 2005, 2006.
	You're not playing Classic.
	Well, I played Classic.
	I played it from launch.
	And then I quit right before AQ 40.
	Okay, that's a good time to quit.
	That's when the game kind of stale.
	I got, dude, I was in a hardcore rating guild.
	And we had Loot Council.
	And I got screwed over on a couple loot decisions.
	So I was like, you know what?
	What class did you say you play?
	So I maimed a rogue.
	A rogue, okay.
	Maimed a rogue.
	Okay.
	And I had an alt warrior.
	Okay.
	Are you like parsing or speedrunning or pump in 99?
	We were speedrunning.
	We were speedrunning.
	And you had good times?
	We were, it was a horde guild.
	We were like top 10 NA.
	What server were you on?
	I don't know if I want to.
	That's a secret.
	Were you on Fairlina?
	I was not on.
	I wasn't streaming.
	I wasn't on Fairlina.
	It was like a mid-pop realm.
	It wasn't like White Mane or Harad or any of that shit.
	But you were like full biscuier.
	you were killing it i was i mean i got screwed on some loot decisions but i was i had a Hold up.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What's the drama?
	Why did they screw you out of the loot?
	So, okay, get this shit right.
	So, it's like the first few, like, we were one of the first guilds to clear MC.
	I'm a rogue, right?
	Okay.
	And I've got, I crafted Heartseeker.
	I was a dagger rogue.
	Okay.
	I crafted Heartseeker, and I had the Blue Dagger from this is so ridiculous.
	I had the Blue Dagger from Strat, from Baron Rivender.
	Okay.
	All right.
	The offhand.
	Yep.
	And another rogue in the guild who was, it was me and him in line for Perditions blue.
	Yeah.
	Ooh, that's big drama.
	He had CHT, Corehound Tooth.
	Yep.
	And he had the Fell Striker.
	So he had two epics, and I'm here with two blues.
	And they gave him perditions, but he has CHT.
	No shit.
	And we started rating at the same exact time.
	Wow.
	So it was like favoritism.
	But I stuck with it because I was like, whatever, you know?
	And you stuck it out through all of BWL.
	All of BWL.
	Then there was a few other shitty loot decisions.
	And I was like, I think the officers didn't like me.
	They did you dirty, bro.
	That is true.
	I've done.
	There was some other shit, too.
	There was some other.
	We'll talk about it after that.
	We'll talk about it after the show.
	Okay.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	Yeah.
	We're going.
	We're going to go around the table.
	We're going to have everybody share their relationship status.
	So what's your current relationship status?
	Are you single?
	Do you have a friends with benefits?
	Are you in a situationship talking stage?
	Are you in a polycule?
	Do you get you married, fiancé, boyfriend, whatever it may be?
	Go ahead.
	Oh, and your longest relationship, please.
	I have a boyfriend, and my longest relationship was eight years.
	Okay.
	Wait, eight years.
	Is that your current?
	Current relationship is the eight-year one?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you guys pretty much met, was it like high school?
	Yeah.
	Or right after high school or something?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay, I'm single and I've never been in a proper relationship.
	Single?
	Never been in a proper relationship.
	What's the longest period of time that you've seen a guy or a girl?
	I mean, that's...
	But you wouldn't consider it a proper relationship.
	No.
	No.
	Was it a situationship?
	I'd say so, yes.
	Why was, did you not want something more?
	Was it long distance?
	What was going on there?
	No, I just found some things that I shouldn't have and like to keep that private.
	Probably good.
	Like he liked to wear women's underwear?
	What did you find?
	No, just a video I shouldn't have.
	It was him with someone else?
	Was he cheating or what?
	Was he cheating?
	Well, I wasn't allowed to see anyone else, but he was, so that's okay.
	Okay.
	But you said you were in a situationship, so I mean, were there any conversations about commitments?
	Yeah, I was told that I wasn't allowed to see anyone else.
	So I didn't.
	But he actually came forward and said, listen, I'm going to see other people.
	Or was he sneaking around?
	He was sneaking around.
	Oh, he sneak around.
	Okay.
	I was at.
	So he wasn't allowed, but he did.
	I was at, like, where we were staying, and I was taking care of our dog.
	Okay, okay.
	Was it Andrew Tate?
	No.
	Were you dating Andrew Tate?
	Okay.
	No, it was not.
	Okay, so six months.
	And how long ago was that recent that that ended?
	It was a while ago, about a year ago.
	A year ago?
	Was that in Canada?
	That wasn't in Canada.
	It wasn't in Canada.
	I've never had a relationship in Canada.
	It was in LA, right?
	LA is a fail.
	Okay.
	I could get into that too.
	Yeah, LA.
	A lot of you are from LA, right?
	Well, not from, but lit in LA at least, right?
	I grew up here.
	I was born here.
	Same.
	Word.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll get.
	Actually, question, when's the last time you were on a date?
	I've never been asked on a date.
	You've never been asked on the date?
	I've been out with friends, but I've never been on a date.
	But like, have you ever been on the dating app?
	No.
	Okay.
	I don't like to.
	Well, okay, let's, for all practical purposes, let's include like a date, could also include Netflix and Chill.
	Have you?
	I wouldn't even say that, no.
	No, Netflix and Chill?
	But you say you go out with friends, so do you, I assume you mean you go out like to party and go to bars and clubs and stuff?
	I'm not a big fan, if I'm being honest.
	I like going out in the sense of like the beach or, you know, dinner with a group of people or home with a group of people.
	You've never just had a guy say you want to go see a movie?
	Never?
	Like not even high school?
	Never.
	I had a hard time in high school.
	I went to five different schools.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	Five different schools?
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	Military related or moving around?
	You just got?
	I got bullied.
	You got bullied?
	Yeah, that's how I started social media.
	You got bullied out of five different high schools?
	No, two different grade schools and then three different high schools.
	Were you getting detention and shit?
	No.
	Were you like smoking weed in the bathroom or what?
	Like what?
	What was the deal?
	I just, I dressed differently than people and I was just more outgoing and it kind of just slowly changed over time until I kind of got a chance to come out to California.
	I know why you got bullied.
	I know why you got bullied.
	You refuse to disclose your age in high.
	And people are like, what the fuck?
	By when she liked, is she like a plant?
	Is she like a narc or some shit?
	I don't know.
	Well, hold up.
	Was it other girls bullying you or was it boys?
	It was girls.
	It was girls.
	Mostly, yes.
	It was like the feminine catty.
	I kind of got both ends of it, but I think it was worse for girls.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well.
	So how did you meet the six-month situationship?
	I was at an event, actually.
	What kind of event was it?
	Like a social media event.
	Okay, like a party or something, sure.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I'm single, and my longest relationship was three years.
	Three years, okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single, and my longest relationship was two years.
	Single, two years.
	All right.
	I'm in an open relationship, and my longest relationship was over a year.
	How long have you been in your open relationship?
	A few months.
	A few months.
	So when you say open relationship, can you give us a little details on that?
	Like we are both free to do what we want.
	I mean, I'm too porn for a living and have a porn agent and stuff.
	So I told him from the start I'm going to continue doing that.
	So when you say porn, you mean like you're having intercourse with other men?
	Yeah.
	Okay, okay.
	And women?
	Yeah.
	And he's totally cool, your boyfriend.
	Totally cool that we can do it.
	Is he doing porn also?
	No.
	No.
	But he's promiscuous.
	No.
	Wait, is he loyal to you?
	He's pretty, like, by his own choice, loyal to me.
	Like, he doesn't sleep with other people.
	No.
	That's how my boyfriend is, too.
	You're in an open relationship, too?
	You're in an open relationship, too?
	You got to speak into the mic, please.
	I don't know how to explain it.
	I wouldn't call it that.
	So it's open on your ends, closed on his?
	Yeah, basically.
	But just a point of clarification, because you do adult content, right?
	So when you say it's open on your end, it's open on your end to facilitate you doing your work, but are you also hooking up with civilians?
	No, not really.
	Just for like my content.
	Okay, I see.
	Just military.
	Do your men have jobs?
	Do they work to make money?
	Yes.
	They do.
	Mine does.
	Okay.
	They do?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Fascinating.
	You're trying to parse why they.
	I'm just like, are they sticking around because they want the porn money?
	Are they okay?
	No, they're making so your man is submissive Yeah.
	Did you peg him?
	Mine's not.
	Just going in.
	Jeez.
	Just like getting to the meeting.
	Getting to the meeting questions.
	Are you just with him because he lets you do all of that?
	No, we've been friends for a long time and he's a really good person and I like him.
	Do you like having sex with him?
	Yeah.
	We have good sex.
	And so you knew him before you got into this line of work?
	No, I've been doing this line of work for four years.
	I met him a year ago.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so but are you like hooking up with other people outside of your work?
	No.
	I mean I could, but I don't.
	But so it's an open relationship to facilitate you being able to do the work that you do.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Did you meet him as a result of this line of work?
	No, not at all.
	How did you meet him?
	I met him through friends whose roommates was one of my friends.
	Okay, just like kind of normally.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you said you're also in a situation like that, kind of.
	Is your boyfriend, is he sleeping with other hell fucking no.
	Chicks?
	No.
	Would you be upset if he did?
	If I'm involved, I'm cool with it.
	No, well, if he's not involved.
	Hell no.
	What if he was getting paid to do it?
	Can I have you straighten your mic, please?
	Just straighten it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, perfect, perfect.
	What was that?
	Well, you're getting paid to have sex with other men.
	What if he got a job getting paid to have sex with other people?
	I don't usually have sex with other men, though.
	Oh, okay.
	I just do like girl, girl.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, what if he did guy, guy.
	Yeah, what if he did guy, guy, who's making money?
	He doesn't like men.
	Okay.
	So that wouldn't happen.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	enough um so for you you have uh you're sleeping with other men though correct Yeah, for work.
	Okay.
	And would you be upset if he was sleeping with other women?
	No.
	No.
	As long as he was safe about it.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	And just a point of clarification.
	So all five of you do OnlyFans and porn.
	Some of you don't do porn, but you do OnlyFans.
	Right.
	You five.
	Okay.
	Can you just clarify?
	Excuse me.
	Which of you does BG content, show of hands?
	So boy-girl content.
	And who does solo content?
	Solo, girl, girl, and I'm a stripper.
	Stripper, anyone else a stripper, dancer?
	I started as a stripper.
	Start as a stripper.
	Okay, got it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So we have you three do BG.
	Is that right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	How many scenes do you guys do per week?
	It's not like that.
	It's pretty sporadic.
	Sporadic?
	Okay.
	I try to shoot like one to two OF collabs a week.
	Okay.
	But as far as porn goes, it's pretty sporadic.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Maybe like a handful.
	Here, into the mic, please.
	Tilt the mic up so it's, yeah.
	Like a handful a month.
	It depends on the month.
	What is the difference between porn and an OnlyFans collab?
	Well, the difference is like porn is more like a set, and there's usually some kind of script or they're telling you basically what to do and positions and that kind of thing.
	OnlyFans, you can kind of do what you want to.
	Is this with other men that have their own pages or guys that you're meeting on Tinder or something?
	No, right now I only collab with guys that have OF as well or women that are on OF.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Oh, Eric, can you scoot the pop-up chat over here?
	I think I'd rather just see the pop-up chat.
	Maybe.
	We'll see.
	Yeah, let's have that one up.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so.
	I started dancing really young.
	Same.
	I was fresh out of high school.
	Why did you get into it?
	If you don't mind, yes.
	Money?
	Yeah, money.
	It was kind of like my only path.
	So I took it.
	Speaking of money, how much do you make per month?
	Like from adult content.
	I don't really like to say exactly how much I make, to be honest.
	Do you want to give us five figures a month?
	Six figures a month?
	A little under six figures.
	A little under six figures a month.
	Yeah, I don't like to cheat completely like this number.
	IRS, I get it.
	Are you making seven figures a year?
	Yeah.
	Over a mil a year.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I prefer not to share mine, but I make enough to live my life.
	You'd make okay.
	Six figures a month.
	Mind you, I travel a lot, so.
	Five figures a month, six figures a month.
	Sorry, it's just personal.
	Fair enough.
	Okay, what about?
	Well, it's so funny.
	Like, you say personal, but like, what, you say you post your nudes online?
	it's just like isn't that very intimate but like you're wait who said that what Oh, well, I mean, you do OnlyFans.
	Perhaps I misunderstood.
	What do you post on OnlyFans?
	That's for everybody else to figure out.
	You know, gotta buy the content.
	Okay, is it nude?
	Yeah, Eric Ladisu, by the way.
	Is it nude?
	I don't know, is it?
	He's like, I'll find out.
	Sorry.
	Madison, can you prepare one of the Spartan helmets for me?
	You just get one of them, just get them ready.
	Wouldn't you want people to know that so they can decide whether or not to subscribe?
	Guys, do not go to her OF unless she discloses what she posts.
	Oh.
	I'm sorry.
	It's personal.
	It's between whoever messages me, you know?
	But do you post nude?
	Like, is it tasteful lingerie photos?
	Is it nude?
	Like, what do you post on?
	I do post some tasteful.
	Yeah.
	What is the average price of an OnlyFans subscription?
	How much is that?
	Mine's $15 a month, and then they can buy stuff in the DM.
	Okay.
	But that's like private content?
	Well, they can get customs, custom videos, and then unlock videos that I send to them.
	What's the most frequent custom type of thing you're doing?
	What is that?
	You say their name or what?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's what they usually like.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	How much do they pay for that?
	It really depends on what they want, but if they like, you know.
	How figure it is.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's spending.
	You get to pick, you know?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	How much do you make?
	I'd rather not say exactly how much I make.
	Range.
	Range.
	I definitely make six figures.
	A month?
	No, a year.
	A year?
	Okay.
	I'm newer to it.
	What about you?
	Quick question.
	What is a figure?
	What is a figure?
	A six figure would be what?
	One figure would be $1.
	Two figures would be $10,000.
	Three figures would be $100.
	$6 figures is $100K.
	Six figures is $100K not.
	So what would three figures be?
	$100.
	Are you trolling right now?
	No, no.
	I literally have never figured out three.
	Three figures is at most $100,000.
	Can I just give a number instead of a figure thing?
	Yeah, hold on.
	Okay, like $10,000 to $20,000.
	Yeah, that's me right now.
	How much are you saying?
	Like $10,000 to $20,000 a month.
	A month.
	Okay.
	Six figures a year.
	And you said you stripped?
	I started as a stripper, yeah.
	Did you drop out of high school?
	No, I graduated actually from a continuation school, but I still got the same diploma as everybody else.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	How much do you make?
	I would say the same, like 10 to 20K a month, six figures a year.
	Okay, can you stop that, please?
	Oh.
	Sorry.
	Yo, you don't need to make faces.
	I'm just, it's audible.
	It's distracting.
	I already stopped.
	Okay, but I, look, you don't need to make faces if I'm asking you to stop doing something.
	Like, we gave pre-show instructionals to not tap on the table.
	I asked you to stop and you made like a whole face about it.
	You want me to leave?
	No, I'm not asking you to leave, but huh?
	Okay.
	You know what I do?
	I just bite my fingernails.
	I don't even have them.
	Then you can't even do it.
	Just to eat them off.
	It's the best way to do it.
	Okay.
	Here.
	Relationship status.
	You, go ahead.
	Who?
	You.
	Married for 11 years, going on 12.
	Okay.
	Married.
	Kelly, what about you?
	I'm in a relationship, and this is my longest one.
	It's a year and five months now, Brian.
	Wait.
	Your longest one now?
	A year and five months now.
	Last time I was four.
	A year in five months.
	Okay.
	Boyfriend.
	And Matt, what about you?
	I've been married for two and a half years, which I, that's probably about as long as I've ever been in that relationship.
	So we've been married two and a half.
	We've got a two-year-old toddler, right now a daughter.
	We've got my firstborn son in three months.
	Firstborn son three months from now.
	Congratulations.
	Congratulations.
	Are you leaving?
	I'm going to leave.
	Y'all have a good evening.
	All right.
	Peace out.
	Bye.
	This is Sparta.
	I got to fix this shit.
	Later.
	Oh, my God.
	Peace out.
	Peace out.
	You too, homie.
	Keep the change, you filthy animals.
	Bro, wow.
	So castle.
	Oh, there's one more.
	I think we just gotta.
	Yeah, let's keep going.
	Okay.
	Do we have Madison join the.
	I think we have Madison join the table, right?
	Bro, did she really get triggered because I asked her to not tap her nails on the table?
	Bro.
	I mean, I was a little harsh.
	Was I harsh?
	Was I a little turn?
	Was she doing that last time or something?
	Is this a recurring thing?
	No, no, just like.
	I don't think you were harsh.
	Yeah, I think he was cool about it.
	Yeah, I mean.
	You just told her to stop.
	Well, I told her to stop, like, because I was like pretty stern.
	I was like, hey, can you stop tapping your nails on the table?
	And she kind of gave me a look.
	Yeah.
	Because we make pictures of the task.
	And then I was like, I don't need the attitude.
	Like, she wanted to be combative about me trying to have control over the show.
	And it's like, I don't need the attitude.
	I just told you to stop fucking banging your nails on the table.
	Whatever, bro.
	Let me see the chat.
	By the way, feminine.
	Hello?
	Super combative.
	Bro.
	Okay.
	I thought we had moved on.
	Seemed fine to me.
	She had.
	Okay, whatever.
	All right, moving on.
	Madison, your relationship status.
	Very taken.
	Is that your child?
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Mark Wavius.
	Markuavius.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	He just got a name today.
	That's great.
	Yeah, let me just.
	Hold on.
	Let me just adjust the kickoff.
	Yo, ABC, thank you, man.
	Hey, appreciate the 20-gifted man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Okay, let me just adjust the kickoff really quick, just to give you guys context.
	This is her second time on the show.
	Before both of the shows she's been on, we give a pre-show instructional.
	And we pretty strictly say, hey, please don't make any audible fidgets.
	So don't be tapping on the table.
	It's a little harder for you guys to hear it on the microphones, but we hear it here and it's distracting.
	I would have to go back and play it back and see if I was a little like, yo, can you stop tapping?
	But like she gave me attitude when I asked her to stop tapping.
	So like she did a little eye roll.
	She did like a little, oh, okay.
	You weren't harsh at first, then it got a little bit harsh.
	Well, no, okay, so and if you guys think I was harsh, that's fine.
	When I first asked her to stop, oh my god, thank you for the 20 gifted.
	I was harsh when she started making faces, I think.
	But like when I asked her to stop tapping, was I like a dickhead about it?
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	Like at first, it was just like stop tapping, but you not make a face.
	Yeah, she made like a face that I asked her to stop tapping.
	Sounds reasonable.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	But I mean, if she isn't she like a like teaches women to be like feminine and like whatever.
	I think she was kind of offended at all of her answers.
	No, I think she's offended by your presence.
	Yeah, I know.
	She's her face.
	She's a friend.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah, when we're talking about porn, she did give us a face.
	Yeah, she gave a look.
	Like, that's annoying.
	All right.
	Well, welcome, Madison.
	You're a well-suited replacement.
	Thank you, Madison.
	Everyone say hi to Madison.
	And also Mark Wavius.
	Madison's baby boy.
	What's the Eric?
	Have you been reading chat?
	What's the consensus?
	Was it a little harsh of a kickoff?
	I don't know.
	Or not a kickoff, but was I harsh when I was like, hey, people were saying to kick her off anyway.
	No, I think people were saying to kick her off.
	No, like once you let him.
	Yo, George, thank you for the 20 gifted.
	Nick, can you?
	It's a little overexposed day.
	Can you lower it just a bit?
	All right.
	Last stream of the last stream for a while.
	It's already been interesting.
	Okay, so let's see where we left off here.
	Did you, you gave your relationship status right?
	You're married.
	Married, toddler, another kid coming soon.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Wait, what?
	Can we remove this super chat?
	Wait, where's Nick?
	Is he gone?
	Okay.
	Oh, whoops.
	All right, one sec, guys.
	We're just getting a couple things situated here.
	Madison, did you share your relationship status?
	Do you want to introduce yourself?
	My name is Mattis.
	You gotta come into frame.
	Scoot into the table, please.
	My name is Madison.
	I'm 18.
	Can you scoot your chair into the table?
	And I'm taken.
	Madison, though, can you scoot your chair?
	There's no space?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, sorry about that, guys.
	Just, bro.
	Okay, so drop it.
	Hello.
	I'm trying to remember where we left off at.
	So for those of you who are single, which is you, you, and you, what does being single really mean?
	Because I mean, come on.
	You guys are attractive girls.
	There must be some guy in the picture, right?
	There's no guy in the picture.
	Are you texting a guy?
	No.
	Nothing.
	I could promise you right now I'm not.
	Let us read every text message on your phone right now.
	Give me your cell phone.
	My cell phone is over there, and I prefer.
	That's okay.
	He's joking.
	So there's no guy in the picture.
	I just try to focus on work and myself.
	So yeah, I mean, guys will hit me up, of course, but I just try to focus on, you know, doing my shoots.
	So.
	Okay.
	What about that?
	Pretty much the same.
	Like, I don't have any.
	Can I have you scoot your mic that way?
	Yeah, like that.
	A little more?
	That's good.
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	Yeah, like, I don't last long with guys.
	They last like a few days sometimes, and then I end up not thinking they're attractive after spending too much time with them.
	So it's you generally that is like ending things with them after a couple days?
	Or a couple months, but yeah.
	Okay.
	Do guys get like, do they get turned off when you tell them what they do?
	Or do they like get scared of that?
	Sometimes they get really excited and they start asking a bunch of questions like they're a fan, but I actually don't want to date those guys because I don't feel like they see me as a real human.
	So you don't like men that consume the content you make?
	I love men that consume the content that I make, but when they start treating me like a fanboy and asking me a bunch of questions about my job, then it becomes like I am my job instead of asking me like, how are you?
	You know, like get to know me as a person.
	What's a question that they might ask that you don't like?
	There's so many.
	So many.
	I just don't know.
	How much do you make?
	Did they ask you that?
	Weird.
	Can you guys?
	They always say like, do you like your job?
	Are you in it for the money or because you actually like it?
	What's the craziest thing you've ever done?
	Stuff like that.
	There's a lot of kids.
	They have like a list.
	They all take out the same list or something.
	Do you guys date guys that are in the same kind of field or not even just porn in general?
	Like in social media or stuff like that?
	Or do you guys like regular guys who be low-key and shit?
	I've dated like two guys in porn and two guys out of porn.
	So there's pros and cons to both, I think.
	I feel like those questions are kind of common.
	Let's say you were working as a secretary at a bank or something, right?
	A guy might ask, do you like your job?
	You know, where do you want to be 10 years from now and how much money do you make?
	Are you satisfied there?
	That's fair.
	Do you have a ba?
	Do you like your boss?
	You guys don't ask how much money you make.
	I've never been asked that.
	I feel like if you're dating, if you've gone to like five or six dates, I think that probably comes up, right?
	Really?
	Maybe not a first date question.
	Does men ask how much money?
	Yeah, probably.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Normally when you tell them mainstream porn, they'll ask like, how much do you make in a shoot and what's a shoot like?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Oh, okay.
	That makes more sense.
	Word.
	Okay, let me get a couple chats here.
	So we have.
	Yes, we're real porn stars.
	Yes, we are.
	Okay, Matthew Self.
	Thank you, man, for the 100.
	Appreciate your super chat, man.
	Just, by the way, just a reminder, guys, if you missed it during the intro, YouTube takes 30%.
	So if you want more of your patronage to go towards whatever, please do it through Streamlabs, streamlabs.com slash whatever.
	So, Matthew Self, late and gay.
	Yeah, we started the show a little late today.
	You know, it is what it is.
	It happens.
	Your jerk off juggernaut.
	Okay.
	Whoa, okay.
	That's damn.
	Okay, more busted.
	That's these guys are going in.
	You should have a show where it is like six gay OnlyFans guys.
	Six dudes?
	Yeah, that would be insane.
	That would be...
	You haven't done that one yet.
	I think, yo, the, hold on.
	Okay.
	good thing you're going on break seems you're reaching to the anyways oh well we can talk about the flaking issue later Anyways, why don't you ever ask the real questions in life like panel's thoughts on aliens?
	What?
	It's a dating show.
	Everyone else is nonsense.
	Bro, I do talk about aliens.
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	I was going to say I love that question.
	Brian, any gears moving to get Sam Hyde on the podcast?
	That would be easily one of the most viewed shows.
	Ask Chat, they'll agree.
	Conan 19.
	Hey, thank you, man, for your super chat.
	I'm familiar with who Sam Hyde is.
	I haven't conversated with him at all, but we'll see.
	Yo, Jerka.
	Okay, I think I can hear the women drying up.
	I think this is when we were talking about World of Warcraft.
	Oh.
	Who cares?
	We're talking about, well, yeah.
	That's more important.
	More important, way more important.
	Curtis Reynolds, dude, been watching for a while since Bangs was on the podcast.
	Seemed like that one girl tonight had a major attitude.
	Keep it up, bro.
	The girl who got kicked off?
	Major attitude?
	Now it feels like it needs to be, it's, I don't know, I'll take a look at it.
	Hey, but Curtis, really appreciate your super chat, man.
	Get some pro wrestlers.
	Oh, wait, sorry, I gotta hide these.
	Okay, thank you guys.
	And then we have, let's see what we have.
	I think, oh, we have another one coming in.
	Bring Milo on.
	I don't think that's going to happen.
	Everybody wants me to kick Erica.
	I don't, not yet, but.
	You just got to turn the negatives into positives, you know?
	Is that a platitude?
	Okay, player 11.
	Thank you, man.
	As a truck driver looking to quit his pee addiction, what advice could these girls give to me if I want to reestablish intimacy with my partners?
	My dude, you are asking the wrong group of girls this question.
	But girls, if you want to answer, go for it.
	I got to check something.
	Why don't you watch porn with your partner?
	It's just like any other addiction.
	Go to rehab or just stop.
	Yeah, just stop watching it.
	Then you'll be able to reestablish your intimacy with your partners.
	Because if you keep watching porn, it's going to ruin it.
	Wait, I don't understand.
	Like, what does he mean?
	He's a porn addiction and he doesn't like, I don't know if it's like he doesn't like having sex with his partner or there's no intimacy with his partner.
	So how does he fix that?
	Damn.
	I have no idea, dude.
	That's a lot.
	That was a good suggestion, though.
	Watch it with your partner.
	watch it with your partner that's kind of one of combine both Would you women date a man that's a porn addict who's watching porn every single day?
	If it's of me, you'd be awesome.
	So not if he's jerking off to other girls.
	Me with other girls is cool.
	Like if he's addicted?
	He does it every day.
	I think most men watch porn almost every day.
	Am I wrong?
	Yeah, it depends on if it gets in the way of it.
	Unfortunately, probably, yeah.
	I do.
	It's human nature to be attracted to more than one person.
	I love it when I'm watching my stuff.
	Wait, what did hold on?
	Repeat that.
	I said, I think it's human nature for people to be attracted to more than one person, even though they're in a relationship, but it comes down to the commitment within the relationship.
	I think it's probably not human nature to jerk off while staring at a phone screen two or three times a day every single day.
	And I have no normal sexual intimacy with real-life human females.
	That's probably not good for me.
	No, no, no.
	Okay, so I misunderstood what you're saying, but I'm saying more like a standpoint.
	Like, if you're going to walk down the street and look at another woman, there's a possibility that you could be attracted to that other woman, even though you still are with someone.
	I suppose that's fair.
	I mean, you could, like, if even if you're in a relationship, you can acknowledge like this person is physically attractive.
	I think the differential is like if you're acting on that.
	You're acting on it.
	And so if you're jerking off to porn, featuring another woman, you're acting on it in psychopathy.
	I wasn't thinking about like the full, you know, I saw watching.
	That's it.
	I saw that porn with my ex.
	That was pretty fun.
	Isn't that sad?
	That you guys can't sexually enjoy each other.
	You can't be intimate without watching other people have sex on a TV screen with a bunch of illuminated light bulbs in your face.
	That's a false statement.
	What's false?
	That we can't have intimacy without watching other people because we can.
	We just chose to watch porn for fun.
	And he was showing me girls that can deep throat and try to teach me how to deep throat.
	It was kind of exciting.
	That's cute.
	I like that.
	It's like you're a part of it, so it's nice.
	I think that that guy should take videos of his girl and jack off to those.
	I'm sorry, say it again.
	That guy, he should take videos of his girl and jack off to those.
	Did he have a girl?
	That's what he said, right?
	Oh, he had a girl.
	He said that they should.
	Yeah, right?
	I think that's a good idea.
	All right, we have Mike Davis here.
	Yo, Brian, females fall into place when Mike Davis gives instruction because that's Mike Davis in his natural element.
	Brian, no disrespect, King, but you come across as snappy and out of element.
	We'll sit down one-on-one and show you how a true alpha male conducts a business.
	Oh, and then Rippy here, Erica, it's sad that no one has taken you on a date.
	Someone should take you to a vineyard to do wine tasting, although you got to be 21 plus.
	Would you be able to go to something like that?
	They want your age so bad.
	Would you be able to go to something like that?
	What if she's like low-key 30?
	In Canada, I could.
	In Canada, I could.
	So you're not 21 plus, is what you're saying?
	I didn't say anything.
	It's pretty much it.
	Okay.
	What is a 304?
	What does that mean?
	A hoe.
	A hoe.
	If you put the upside down.
	It's a hoe.
	So you know how many.
	You guys are all 304s?
	Well, it means.
	Sorry?
	It technically means prostitute.
	Prostitute.
	Isn't hoe short for hooker?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Are these all a loud word?
	I mean, I just figured hoe, hooker.
	Well, okay, do you, I don't know.
	Let me ask you your opinion.
	Do you guys consider yourselves prostitutes?
	I mean, with a camera, it's not a problem.
	It's the same thing.
	It's the same thing.
	I think sex work is a blanket term.
	So like prostitutes, strippers, porn stars, OnlyFans girls, people that sell feet pictures, if you're making someone bust, you're doing sex work.
	If you make somebody bust.
	For money, yeah.
	Like in any way, shape, or form.
	I don't know.
	I'm sure I could think of some example where like some dudes.
	Don't bust chastity.
	No, like, I don't know.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	Let's say you're a female streamer on Twitch or playing games and you're wearing a sweater every single day.
	You're not revealing yourself, but there's some guy with a crazy fetish and he's jerking off to every day.
	So is that female Twitch streamer who's not intentionally making sexual content?
	Because some guy's jerking off.
	Is she a 304?
	If it's not intentional, no.
	Okay, so the intent is what matters.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's a compliment.
	Yeah, she should be like flattered.
	She should be flattered that some weirdo in Malaysia is jerking off to her.
	Yeah.
	If she's in a just a sweater.
	Let's not throw the Malaysians under the bus.
	Okay, sorry.
	Let's be sensitive to the Malaysian.
	Some guy in Indiana.
	She's hot and she's in a sweater.
	Okay.
	Wait, but so you said that if someone is, you're making money from someone busting to your content.
	Have you ever seen that?
	That makes you a sex worker?
	Yeah.
	Bro, there's probably dudes masturbating to this shit right now.
	Well, that's what I said about intent.
	Am I a sex worker?
	No, like I already said.
	No, if you're intent.
	Hold on, let me ask the chat.
	Let me ask the chat really quick.
	One in the chat if you're masturbating right now.
	Oh my God.
	I want to see.
	Probably some dude just whipped out his dick and started masturbating.
	Don't do it, guys.
	What the fuck?
	I guess it's kind of a gray line, honestly, because you do have a bunch of sex workers on the podcast.
	Guys, would you stop?
	Oh, my God.
	Oh my gosh, at least you own it, though.
	There's people that come on.
	How many of you guys gender watching?
	It's not sex work.
	It's modeling.
	Look at these guys.
	Fucking.
	Wait, what's modeling?
	What?
	I was saying, like, at least you guys own it.
	There's some people that are like, I don't do sex work.
	I model.
	I'm a model.
	Yeah, that was my next.
	I was going to ask, because I'm not talking to OnlyFans girls.
	Do you think most OnlyFans women would say that they're prostitutes?
	No.
	No, okay.
	No.
	I think prostitute is not a PC term.
	It's a very dirty term.
	A prostitute is someone who sells pussy for money.
	Wait, prostitute is a dirty term?
	To a lot of people.
	I don't think it's that dirty of a term.
	I mean, like, wouldn't whore be more offensive?
	It's the same thing as a prostitute.
	Yeah, I feel like that.
	I think prostitute's a little more charitable of a term, don't you?
	I mean, like our proper.
	Wait, why is whore offensive?
	I mean, I think whore is more disparaging.
	I like that.
	Yeah, call me a whore.
	I think whore is a bit more disparaging than prostitute, but you know, whatever.
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	It's true.
	They prefer escort.
	Yeah, that's like the nicest way to say it.
	Yeah, escort is the nicer term.
	Is it?
	Fair enough.
	All right.
	Eric, could you pull up there's a tweet from someone named Gia McCool, which I thought was interesting that we're going to read to.
	Okay, so can you mouse wheel up just a tad?
	Make it a little bigger.
	Okay.
	Oh, too big, too big, too big.
	One down, yeah.
	Scroll up just a tad.
	Up.
	Scroll up.
	Yeah.
	So Gia McCool, there's this misconception that when you're married, you must be boring, dress like the Amish, never post photos online.
	We need to move forward from this while keeping the positive aspects of tradition, plus adopting the positive aspects of modernism.
	Scroll down.
	We don't need to split into two groups.
	We need to merge the best parts of each group.
	Scroll down.
	And then she posted a photo of herself.
	I think she considers herself kind of trad, but she's a coach author.
	I think she's trad, but she's saying, scroll back up really quick.
	Sorry, scroll down just a tad.
	We don't need to split into two groups.
	We need to merge the best parts of each group, adopt the positive aspects.
	I mean, this is kind of interesting to me where, and I'm going to open it up to the panel on this, where basically people want the benefits of tradition, but they want also the benefits of modernity.
	So I guess my question to you related to that is, I mean, I know some of you guys do this for work, but maybe if you didn't, do you think it's fair to demand men act traditionally, but not be a traditional woman?
	I think men should be men, yeah.
	How so?
	I think it's important for their own, like, minds to be, like, masculine men.
	I think, like, if the guy's paying for the date, the girl paid, like, for her hair, nails, makeup, outfit.
	So it is equal in that sense.
	I think men are happy with themselves when they're masculine.
	I agree.
	When it comes to sex outside of the relationship, if they're not getting paid for it, I don't think they should do it.
	If I'm only doing it for work, it's not as enjoyable as sex would be just for fun.
	Okay.
	So if we stay loyal in the relationship together, then I wouldn't count me going to my job as cheating.
	And hopefully I could find someone that feels that way, but not everyone agrees.
	I think that it's fair to look at it as a mutual standpoint.
	If somebody's asking you to do something, you should be able to do things in the way that they're asking.
	So if you met a guy and he was like, you know, you're into him and you wanted to be in a relationship with him and he asked you to stop your OnlyFans, would you do it?
	Yes.
	But only given that he was an actual traditional man, that he was fulfilling his masculine way.
	If that's what he was asking of me, yes.
	Mutual, like vice versa.
	If you found your dream guy and you said, listen, I need you to stop OnlyFans, you would stop in a heartbeat.
	Yeah.
	If it was my dream guy, yes.
	I would quit.
	My dream guy would never say that, literally.
	What's messed up?
	What's going on back there, guys?
	Everything okay?
	Yeah, we're good.
	Would you want them to at least provide the amount of money that you were making that you'd be missing out?
	Why don't you end up presenting them?
	Well, I mean, I think that in a relationship, it's like a mutual half and half sometimes.
	You would go 50-50 with a man?
	Yes.
	Personally, that just might be a good idea.
	What if he was like, I want to have sex with another girl?
	You would be like, okay.
	But I don't think that's going 50-50 unless he's asking me to go have sex with another guy.
	Like, if it's, I'm okay to ask, you know what I'm saying?
	Well, here, let me ask a couple clarifying questions here.
	And we'll do a hand raise on this.
	So, who here considers themselves traditional?
	I'd say.
	I'd say yes and no.
	I mean, there's certain things that I do for myself, but I'm not in a relationship.
	So there's, if you're talking relationship-wise or as an individual?
	Relationship.
	Relationship.
	That was a question.
	But I've never been in a relationship.
	Is it a goal of yours to become a wife and a mother and a hometaker and a nurturer of children and your husband?
	Well, I'd say that's a part of it, yeah.
	But I'd also like to have like my own job and be able to take care of myself too because I don't want to rely on anybody in my future.
	So do you plan on doing OnlyFans for the rest of your life?
	No.
	Just because I say, look, you were asking if I was with him and he asked me to stop doing OnlyFans and I chose to stop doing OnlyFans, I would get another job.
	In my mind, when we're talking about traditional gender dynamics, we're talking about a mutual reliance.
	The husband is in the service of the woman, the wife, and the wife is in the service, mutualistically, in the service of the husband.
	It's not one person is totally reliant on the other.
	So why would you not, if you really want a traditional man in a traditional relationship, why would you not step into that role?
	Why would you also need to have a job or something like that?
	Well, I think that, like, if I'm with somebody, say we're going out for dinner, right?
	I would want to be able to pay for half the meal or if he, say, forgot his wallet.
	That's not traditional.
	Say you've been married for five years.
	Yeah.
	His money is your money.
	He's making money for you and the kids.
	Fair.
	So that's a okay.
	Just that's good sounds good, okay.
	I mean, if it came down to it, I think that, at the end of the day, being in a relationship, it's important to have like an understanding of each other and each other's values, and like that's what makes a committed relationship important.
	You know what i'm saying?
	Well okay, one one thing here related to uh trad.
	So, uh would, if a guy, do you want a guy to pay for you on the first date?
	Oh yeah, absolutely yeah.
	I'd say no, if i'm being honest.
	I mean, if he offers maybe, but i'd like to offer myself too, but then i've never been on a date where a guy wanted me to pay ever, because that's not yeah, that's not how it should be.
	If you're courting a woman you're supposed to take, actually they would be insulted if I even reached for my bag.
	Oh yeah, for sure yeah, you think so yeah, okay.
	So uh, let's go around the table on this.
	So what was your sorry, what was your answer to the?
	If he offers, i'd allow it, but I would also offer for that, or I would pay for dessert or something like that after.
	But I mean, would you okay if?
	If uh, let's say the check.
	Here's a better question.
	Let me ask two questions.
	One just point blank period, who do you think should pay on the first date?
	And then the second question is, if on the first date, the guy said hey, let's split the bill, would that be a turn off?
	Would it be a deal breaker?
	So so, just going back to you, would that be a deal breaker?
	What the what I just stated?
	If he asked to split the bill?
	If the guy asked to split the bill um, it depends on their reason, but I, if they had a good reason, I wouldn't be insulted.
	He didn't give a reason, he just let's say that he doesn't even.
	Okay, let me, you're on a date with a guy.
	The waiter comes and he tells the waiter, two checks and it's the first date.
	First date, separate checks please, that would, I would be very surprised.
	Deal breaker would it be.
	I would not date them again unless they were like, gonna like, make it up to me somehow.
	Okay, so it would be a red not, maybe not a red flag, but it'd be a deal breaker.
	They would have to like, really like, make it up to me for me to like, you know sure, what about you?
	Uh, I would be willing to split it, okay.
	So then, who should pay on the first date or split?
	You're fine with split okay, and you'd be fine if the guy asked for two checks when the waiter came.
	You'd be cool with that.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think the guy should pay on the first date.
	Okay what uh, why is that?
	Because they asked me out and I spent my money, like she was saying, like on the hair, the makeup, getting ready, the clothes, everything like that.
	So I am investing in myself as well okay um, and if a guy did ask for separate checks, what would you?
	What would you do?
	I just probably wouldn't see him again, even if he was interested in seeing you again.
	Then the date otherwise went.
	Okay yeah, I wouldn't see him again done okay, fair enough, what about you?
	I would prefer, I prefer, the guy to pay on the first date, but I just went on a date recently and he paid for dinner and I paid for dessert.
	So he paid 50 and you paid 10?
	Something like that?
	No, it was actually like both at stands, like food trucks, so it was cheap for both of them.
	And I offered to pay for dessert because I felt bad.
	See, I think that's so fair.
	That's like what I was saying.
	You know, like it's normally I'd come to pay.
	Normally, you'd want the guy to pay.
	Yeah, but it wouldn't be like a deal breaker.
	Like, I wouldn't, you know.
	But would it be like slightly negative brownie points?
	If they want me to pay, then that's weird.
	If I offer to pay, then that's cool.
	Like, because I've had a guy want to do 50-50 and I thought he was so unattractive, and I was like, that is just so lame.
	Like, you're so lame.
	But, like, I will offer to chip it, and like, just don't make me, I guess.
	I have a problem with authority.
	You have a problem with authority.
	Just to be clear, why is it lame if he wants to go?
	Because I agree with you, but why do you think it's lame if he goes 50-50?
	Honestly, I couldn't pinpoint it, but I literally remember how I felt last time this happened where the dude was around my age.
	I thought he was so cute, and then he wanted to go 50-50, and I was just disgusted.
	Like, any chance of sex happening was gone.
	Why do you think that is though?
	I don't know.
	I didn't feel taken care of.
	You need like a man to take care of you.
	You don't need that, but it feels good.
	We'll come back to it.
	Did you have more?
	No, no, we can.
	Actually, I'd like to hear the answers from these other women for that.
	We'll come back to that, though.
	I think whoever asks for the date pays for the date, but I would prefer a man paid for the date.
	I'm going on a date with some random man.
	I think a woman's time is valuable.
	Like, I would.
	A woman's time is valuable.
	I wouldn't want to pay for the date.
	So, your time is more valuable than his time.
	Yeah, I think women are like art and gorgeous and beautiful.
	What if he makes 10 times more money than you?
	Great, then that's even more the reason he should be paying for the date.
	But his time would quite literally be, I suppose, more valuable than yours.
	Wow.
	Well.
	But continue.
	Okay.
	Continue on with your trend.
	You said, well, I believe women are.
	What were you saying?
	Beautiful and what?
	Like, it takes a lot of money to be a woman, and I think women are beautiful.
	It takes a lot of money to be a woman.
	It does.
	To be a pretty girl, it costs money.
	Not necessarily.
	Do you think that if you're going on a date, like, you're going to like, you're going to maybe have to get your hair done?
	You have to get your nails.
	You have makeup.
	You have to make it.
	Let me ask you a question about myself.
	Do you wear makeup for men or do you wear it for yourself?
	Both.
	Because oftentimes if a man were to say, women wear makeup for men, you'd be like, no, I wear it for myself.
	I'm not.
	I suppose you wear makeup just to go to work.
	I don't usually wear makeup on my days off.
	But what if the guy gave you a pass and he said, I don't want you to wear makeup?
	Then I wouldn't wear makeup.
	But it's you choosing to put that on.
	So why should he be financially responsible for the $3 of?
	I didn't mean it.
	It's so transactional like that.
	I don't know.
	I just think a gentleman would pay for a woman.
	What if when he asks you?
	What a gentleman would pay for a woman?
	What if when he asks you out, he says, listen, I want to go on a date, but I want to go 50-50, so don't wear makeup.
	Don't get your hair done.
	I'm not doing that bullshit.
	I've actually done that.
	That doesn't sound like a drink.
	I'll tell a girl.
	I don't like makeup.
	I'll tell Loki.
	Did you tell her that on the first date?
	I'll tell a girl.
	I'll say, like, you don't need to wear makeup.
	I don't like makeup.
	And I'll say it, don't wear perfume either.
	That's like so random though.
	You're just going to say that out of nowhere?
	This is the reality.
	A lot of men don't like a really made-up woman.
	Seriously.
	I don't like makeup.
	Same.
	Not a fan.
	Not a big fan.
	Would you be offended if you went on a date with him and then she came with a full face of makeup, like fully done up?
	I wouldn't be offended.
	There would be no second date.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Turn off.
	I would be scared of what she looked like under the drink.
	There was a girl I dated probably six years ago, probably three or four months.
	She never, over the course of this relationship, never let me see her without makeup.
	She would wake up, get out of bed early, sneak out of bed.
	I'm still sleeping.
	She's in the bathroom doing makeup and doing her hair.
	She would not turn off.
	That dedication.
	She cared a lot.
	What if it was like your first date and she just wanted to make her best impression and she actually really liked you and like you genuinely liked her, but then like it's like not you said not a second date, right?
	But what if she was like willing to, like, what if she wasn't that insecure about herself and she was willing to not wear makeup for this?
	I think there's a difference between like an oak for me for my preference and okay about amount of makeup and too much over-the-top makeup.
	That's that's the problem, yeah.
	But every man has got his preference.
	It's true.
	Okay, so I had a couple questions here.
	There's there's a lot to touch on.
	And I suppose we'll have Madison and Kelly, you guys answer yours really quick.
	So as far as who pays for the date?
	I'd prefer the man to pay because it's the norm, but I also don't mind paying.
	I like spoiling my man.
	Kelly, what about you?
	I think that the man should pay for it just because that's, I feel like when you're dating somebody, that's a part of being a man in a relationship.
	But like I said, you know, a woman can pay for some things.
	Like, oh, if we go to dinner, you can pay for that.
	If we go to McDonald's, yeah, sure, I'll pay for it, no problem.
	And we go to dessert, like they said, like, that's not a problem.
	That's like when you're in a relationship for a while.
	Yeah, but yeah, well, the courting state is what I'm saying.
	The courting stage, yeah.
	If you're trying to make this woman your girlfriend, why wouldn't you pay for her?
	You're doing your duty as a man.
	It's a polite thing to degree.
	It's the polite thing to do.
	I want to say polite.
	It's just the, if you, like, it's the traditional way of going.
	It's, you're being.
	Sure.
	Okay, so I think you said that you would be dis you were disgusted when the guy offered to split the bill, was it?
	That sounds harsh now, but like.
	That's what you said, though.
	I guess disgusted is the wrong word, but definitely turned off.
	I mean, some girls are disgusted by men who are not prepared to provide.
	I would say turned off is a more fair way to put it.
	I was being a little.
	And then I think you said whoever asks should pay, correct?
	Yeah, I mean, I've paid for dates before.
	I mean, I think in a relationship like they were saying, first date, first date.
	Is it whoever asks should pay?
	Yeah, but usually the man would be asking me.
	Well, that's what I'm going to ask.
	So just who here?
	Who here says whoever asks should pay?
	Show of hands.
	Well, I mean, that's fair.
	Yeah.
	Like for first date.
	But like a girl.
	We're talking straight.
	First date.
	First date.
	Whoever asks should pay.
	Is that your man should pay?
	The man should pay on the pay.
	Oh, the man should pay.
	Okay.
	Because some people's position is, well, whoever asks.
	But my thinking on that is, well, women don't really ask men out on dates.
	Generally speaking, yes.
	Do some women occasionally rarely ask men out on dates?
	Yes.
	But generally speaking, women are the ones who are asking men out on dates.
	So your answer may as well be, I mean, men are de facto the initiators.
	So your answer may as well be men should pay.
	But I mean, it kind of ignores, it's a bit of a naive look.
	If your position is whoever asks.
	I just think when a guy likes you, he wants to take care of you and show you, I got you, babe.
	Like, no worries.
	Like, it ain't no thing.
	It's dinner, you know?
	Like, I got you.
	Like, when a guy likes you, he's not, like, oh, pay.
	Like, that's kind of weird.
	Let me tell you how I think this plays out in reality.
	I think if a man is asking and paying, he sees some long-term value in you.
	I think any man that is saying, hey, let's go 50-50, hey, can you pay this time?
	Hey, my wallet's in the car.
	Hey, can you buy dessert?
	That man doesn't really see something long-term with you.
	That man is looking to get laid, or that man is looking for a one-and-done.
	Yeah, that's what I think.
	I disagree with you.
	I disagree with you a little bit.
	Okay.
	Now, in a traditional world where women moved traditionally, I would agree with you.
	However, I think, at least in California, I don't know how it is in, I mean, I think in most of the Western world, women are definitely not moving in a traditional way.
	No doubt.
	So I don't feel obliged to hold to traditional, my traditional gender roles of paying for the first date because women are not traditional.
	So I don't want to be a sucker.
	And a lot of these chicks, they're doing foodie calls.
	They're not serious about pursuing anything.
	They're bored on a Friday.
	Oh, okay.
	Sure, I'll go on a date.
	And like, foodie calls is a big thing.
	I've had a foodie call where the girl just went on a date for fucking free food.
	Yeah, a lot of girls do.
	Well, listen, I think I'm not going to waste my time.
	Some wouldn't, but some chicks do.
	And then the other thing...
	Yeah, like a whole roster.
	I'll let you go on the shit.
	I'm hungry.
	Let's go here.
	The other thing is that.
	I have a lot of time.
	I just don't want to be a sucker because a lot of people are sleeping and seeing multiple people.
	So I don't want to be the guy that pays for you, pays for your date, and then you go and hang out with your fuck buddy, who, by the way, never has paid for you.
	And you fuck him after I just provided for you.
	That's basically like low, like a low-tier cuck situation.
	Okay, so women, do you think it's fair for Brian to ask a woman on a first date, do you have a fuck buddy?
	Are you doing foodie dates?
	Is that a fair question for a man to ask on a first date?
	Yeah.
	Because if that's the case, I'm out of here.
	I'm not paying for your wheel 50-50.
	I'm gone.
	Is that fair?
	I don't think most girls wouldn't.
	I think she should ask it before the date.
	It's really a deal breaker.
	Yeah.
	But here's the thing.
	But I think if she really likes you, she wouldn't do that.
	Do what?
	Like what you said, like, make you pay for all this stuff.
	And then just like, that's a thing.
	Do you summarize fuck the loser like down the street?
	She ain't gonna say it, but she's gonna give you the ass out hug goodbye.
	Oh, I had a really good time.
	And then she's gonna go over to the guy who she's fucking.
	But can you tell when a girl like really loves you?
	Like on a first date?
	I mean, some women are pretty coy.
	I keep forgetting it's like only first date.
	Yeah, that's hard to tell on a first date.
	You're right.
	Yeah, it's a first date.
	Maybe there's nerves involved.
	Some people will.
	After a while, I think, yeah.
	I gotta say, like, maybe I'm out of the loop.
	Maybe you're in the California bubble.
	Maybe it's a different world down here.
	I feel like it's really easy to tell on a first date.
	Granted, I've been out of the game for a while.
	I feel like it's easy to tell when a girl's kind of playing that game.
	Do you think?
	I feel like within.
	I'm gonna have to do a foodie call.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, but by the time our hour-long date is done at the restaurant, I think I've got a pretty good idea if this girl is living that life or she's just like a normal human female.
	I mean, I think there's a lot of very sophisticated women, and I don't think we should underestimate the level of sophistication that goes on.
	I don't know.
	I think women are much more socially attuned than men, and they're much more capable of pulling off this manipulation.
	I don't know how many master manipulator women are running that life.
	I don't know.
	Really?
	Eric, can you pull up that story of that chick on TikTok who's going on 60 speak for free food?
	Is it that bad?
	These hoes out here are crazy.
	Well, listen, we are.
	Here's the thing, but here's the thing.
	They think they, like, I feel like a lot of it nowadays, like, once as they get older, like, they try to get married too.
	So it's like, they're trying to play this trick to get married.
	Keep in mind, we are in, right now, we're in the most progressive hellhole satanic place in the world.
	So if you're basing your dating situation off of this area, SoCal, it's probably not Representative of how the rest of the world is operating, right?
	Yeah, LA's, yeah.
	It's pretty bad down here.
	It's really bad.
	Yeah.
	Scroll up so we can see the title.
	Yeah, this is it.
	I went on six dates a week and didn't have to groceries for two years.
	Scroll down.
	Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
	So I said, scroll up.
	I'm going to read the text.
	When they say women are bad with money, but you used to go on six dates a week to avoid paying for groceries.
	So this chick lived in New York and she boasted about going on six dates a week.
	And scroll down, Eric.
	I think she said how much she saved.
	She said she was saving 100, probably saved about $150 a week.
	Scroll back up.
	Let's look at what she looked like.
	This is a very average-looking woman.
	She is not remarkable in any way.
	And she's able to go on six dates a week and basically game men.
	Look, I'm not saying, look, most women are not doing this.
	But what I'm saying is, as a guy, you do have to be cautious.
	Foodie call is more a little on the rare side, but I would say what's fairly common is people are dating multiple people.
	I think that's the pretty common for people to have multiple people they're dating, both men and women, by the way.
	And so my hope, but here's the thing, on the first date, there's not an expectation that the woman should be paying for the first date.
	So as a guy, if the expectation is you should be paying on the first date, but she's dating three other dudes, she's sleeping with three other dudes.
	I'm not going to, like, I feel like a sucker if I'm paying for a girl, even if it's $10.
	It's not about the money.
	I'm good on money.
	It's a matter of principle.
	I don't want to feel like a sucker.
	I don't want to pay for a girl and she's fucking other dudes.
	Okay, so let me ask you, what's the solution then?
	Are you just never going on dates?
	Well, this is a good idea.
	Are you that demoralized out of the dating game?
	You're just never doing it.
	I'm so, I'm like, so jaded from fucking dating.
	Like, it's bad.
	But not every girl fucks multiple guys.
	I know it's hard to believe, but I literally, like, when I find a guy that I really like, I only fuck him and I only think about him and want to be around him.
	I get really obsessed.
	On the first date, though?
	Yeah, the first, my last boyfriend, I met him on the first date.
	Yeah, but you do sex work, right?
	So I mean, you're like fucking within your work, right?
	Well, that's right.
	When I met him at work, I met him on his podcast.
	Okay.
	And then I ended in Keemstar tweeting for him to wash his ass.
	You just said that's her work, though.
	Can I ask you?
	Do you think it's reasonable for a man to not want to date a sex worker?
	Is that fair for a man to say, I just don't want to date a woman that's sharing her body with other men?
	Well, like my dude, he's cool with me like doing solo content and girl girl.
	And because just because like I have respect for him, I choose to not do like dude content.
	Well, let's dig deeper.
	So the content you are making, you are making it exclusively for other men around the world to play with their penises, right?
	That's your clientele.
	Right?
	So is it okay for a man you're potentially dating to say, listen, I don't want my woman making content like that?
	Is that fair?
	Like just solo and girl girl, he's not cool with?
	He doesn't want you uploading naked photos, sexy photos on the internet.
	Insecure.
	Wait, what?
	You think that's insecure?
	Very.
	You think so?
	Yeah.
	Explain why.
	Isn't he cool with Girl Girl?
	Because why is what someone else is doing with their body bothering him so much?
	Because he's looking to have a wife and have kids.
	Wait, it's insecure.
	What?
	It's insecure for a guy to not want to date a sex worker.
	Well, I think it's insecure for someone to think that someone without their clothes on.
	So this is one of the beautiful things about monogamous relationships.
	Two people have come together and said, listen, this is an aspect of our life, of our being, that we are going to give exclusively to each other, and that's why it's special.
	We've agreed on that.
	Those are ours.
	I'm monogamous and still post slutty photos.
	So I'm asking you, is it reasonable if a guy doesn't want you if you do that?
	Is he going to be completely monogamous to her?
	Totally.
	All about her obsessed, like you're my bitch.
	He's not fucking side chicks.
	Is that fair?
	I want a guy that's cool with it, that is calm.
	But what if he's doing everything else that you want him to?
	Like, what do you want your man to do?
	You want him to pay for everything?
	Like, if he's paying for everything already, and then he's saying that he doesn't want you to do this, how come you can't make that sacrifice for him if he's doing everything?
	I'd rather find someone that will pay for everything and will also show me off and be cool with it.
	There's too many people in the world to not find someone that I like every aspect of or at least most of them.
	You value helping random men all over the world bust nuts more than the comfort of your spouse.
	No, I value my income and my roof over my head and the food that goes in my mouth.
	Okay, what if he says, Listen, marry me, you're a stay-at-home wife, we're having kids, and you're my wife, we're taking, I'll take care of you.
	I can't trust you.
	I will dedicate my life to you.
	You can leave one of them.
	What if he leaves?
	What if he dies?
	Why is he going to leave if you're doing everything he wants you to do?
	I know.
	I've known men that are married for 10 years and then they decide, I'm going to go to this trip club.
	I'm going to cheat on my wife.
	I'm going to give all our extra money to this porn star.
	I mean, you know, a guy's going to give you a lot of money when you hear he's married.
	Like, that's just the facts.
	Say the roles were like, I think, I think that men are cheating less than women, right?
	Isn't it?
	I think men are cheating.
	I think so many men are cheating.
	It's ridiculous.
	Yeah, but I think that more women are cheating statistically, right?
	No, that's true.
	I think you can find a guy that's cool with what you want to do and he'll still love you.
	100%.
	You know, the type of guy that doesn't is like, no, no, no, you can't do this.
	You can't do that.
	He's just not for me and he's not for you.
	Like, I'm personally cool with girl, girl, and solo content because that's just, I'm cool with that because, like, my dude, he's cool with me doing that.
	So, like, I'm cool with that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But he's not ever like, no, you can't do this.
	You can't do it.
	He's not like that.
	Do you want to get married?
	Yeah.
	How come you haven't?
	Because you said you were together for eight years.
	But what's stopping marriage?
	Do you not like that?
	It's a long story.
	It's like too long to get into.
	But yeah, eventually, yeah.
	Say though, like if your boyfriend, was it?
	Your boyfriend was doing the same things that you were doing and you weren't and you were in his position, like, and if he was, what am I saying right now?
	Sorry, I lost myself.
	If the roles were reversed.
	Yeah, just if the roles were reversed, would oh my god, I'm like, if I was a guy and he was the girl?
	No, if he was doing the content that you're doing and you weren't okay with it, is that a deal breaker?
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	I think it's different though for guys.
	Eric, can you hide the pop-up?
	But it's the same action, same ideas, same words.
	I think maybe at a base level, the concern you women have is that if you forfeit your income source, which happens to be sex work, then you're really concerned that what if the man I dedicate my life to and I sacrifice my income for, what if he betrays me?
	Then I'm fucked.
	That's like at a base level what the concern is.
	Then you get happy.
	Yeah.
	Lady Gucka.
	I don't know.
	That thought doesn't really cross my mind.
	Like, you know, if like you're my dude, I trust you straight up.
	Yeah.
	You know, but I think that does come with time also.
	Yeah.
	So.
	Just to bring it back really quick to the who pays thing.
	So I guess, look, my main issue is, and I guess explain to me why I, as the man, should pay for a first date when a lot of women are out here sleeping with multiple men at the same time and sleeping with multiple men at the same time.
	Like, a lot of you said the man should pay, right?
	Which is him adhering to his traditional gender role.
	Do you agree with that?
	Yes.
	How many of you are traditional women?
	Absolutely not.
	You're not traditional, though.
	No, I'm way different than traditional.
	Isn't it unfair to ask for the man to be traditional if you're not traditional?
	I mean, they go above and beyond usually.
	We get experiences that are not what the average person would get.
	Oh, sure.
	You don't have to be traditional to be feminine and to give a guy your femininity.
	Why wouldn't you?
	Well, let's pause.
	What do you mean by traditional femininity?
	Because when I think of traditional woman or traditional femininity, I think of modesty.
	I think of self-sacrifice.
	I think of discipline.
	I think of motherhood.
	I think of being a good wife.
	I think of dedicating your physical being to your husband exclusively and solely.
	So I'm hearing the word traditional femininity or traditional woman, and I'm like, what's going on here?
	Maybe, I think we have different definitions, right?
	Well, like, me personally, I like to cater to my man, like, cook for him, like clean for him, like, have all his shit ready for him, like, be there for him, you know what I mean?
	There's some kind of bunch of people.
	It's literally a fly.
	Don't worry, it's not going to bite you.
	It's a B.
	It's just an old fashioned.
	It's just a little fly.
	Okay, you guys are all scared.
	I thought it was a B.
	It's not a B.
	It's not going to sting you guys.
	It's just a little bug.
	But, yeah.
	Look, it's just like.
	Look, we have girls who are sex workers on the show.
	We have strippers.
	We have porn stars.
	We have OnlyFans Girls.
	That's cool.
	But it's just, to me, it's like, why are you holding men to these traditional standards when you're, I mean, sex work is not traditional.
	But you don't have to be a person.
	You got an answer for me.
	What you got?
	I just don't think that sex workers want to have sex with a lot of different people casually because we have sex for a job.
	From my personal experience, I hate having sex.
	Like, that doesn't have a connection.
	Having sex?
	That doesn't have a connection.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, I like to be really close with someone, and like I said earlier, get really obsessed and just want to be with them.
	So, like, there are those girls out there, whether they're sex workers or not, that will be loyal to you and be really into you.
	You just have to find the right girl.
	But I mean, just, okay, but here's the thing: just by virtue of being in the adult entertainment industry, you are immediately classed as not being traditional.
	So?
	But what the point I'm trying to make is: if you are not traditional yourself, you ought not expect men to be traditional.
	Are you talking about paying for dinner?
	Yeah, I'm talking about paying for first dates.
	But I think from a perspective of- Why are we doing traditional as a blanket?
	Sex work versus paying for dinner.
	What does that got to do with each other?
	Well, he's basically the traditional men.
	I'm saying you expect men to be traditional, yet you are not traditional yourself.
	I don't expect men to be traditional.
	I want to go to Nobu.
	I want them to spend thousands of people.
	But that's not that man paying for dinner, that's a function of traditional.
	I don't want traditional men.
	I'm not traditional.
	I want rich pie rollers.
	Wait, hold on.
	That's traditional.
	You want a guy to be provider.
	You said you want a guy to take you to Nobu and pay for a thousand dollar dinner.
	I mean, yeah.
	Can I ask you, what do you feel like you have to do?
	For some really good pussies, some really good heads.
	But a guy can get that from anybody.
	But what if you never ever say no?
	What do you mean, what if you ever never say no?
	I mean, I can do things, but like if you don't say no to him.
	But I don't think you guys understand that men look at sex completely different than how women do.
	I'll tell you, that type of man you're describing that attractive, successful, tons of money going on.
	I'm seeing him this weekend.
	I'll see you soon, baby.
	I'll tell you, that type of man can fuck as many women as he wants.
	You're not special to him.
	It's true, but the money is special to me.
	But he's never going to.
	Does it offend you guys that that man will never marry you?
	I don't care.
	He's already married, actually.
	I told you.
	So you're helping a man cheat on his wife?
	Well, no, because it's my job.
	What's your job?
	To escort?
	To make men best nets.
	You're comfortable helping this man violate his marriage.
	I'm comfortable making money because he's going to go do it from another girl if he doesn't get it from me.
	So I might as well make this bank because this man is like double my age, maybe triple.
	I don't really know.
	No moral qualms for you at all.
	She's not married.
	I'm not the one that got into a relationship.
	But you're implicated in his transaction.
	Why do I have responsibility for what he's the one that, if anything, isn't it?
	Imagine I'm a methamphetamine dealer and I said, well, if I don't sell meth, someone else is going to sell meth to these drug addicts.
	So it's not my problem.
	My mom's sexually invalid.
	Your mom is a meth dealer.
	And she's been in and out of prison my whole life.
	Your mom's method.
	That's good.
	Let me just write that down.
	Hold on.
	Mom's a meth dealer.
	What?
	Okay.
	Excuse me.
	Was a meth dealer.
	I think she's just an addict.
	She's turned her life around.
	That's right.
	No, no, absolutely not.
	But it's okay.
	Thank you.
	It's okay.
	Welcome to California.
	I love California.
	I got to get the fuck out of here.
	AZAP.
	Sorry for this round.
	I'm not going to be able to go by me.
	Washington.
	D.C. North.
	Washington, D.C. Northwest, yeah.
	Where on the East Coast?
	Pennsylvania, New York.
	You could have been Amish.
	Wow.
	You should have been Amish.
	Interesting how life works out.
	Interesting how life works out.
	But, okay, so you escort.
	Is that correct?
	I don't want to answer that.
	That's a yes.
	Well, I mean, you've already, I mean, you've basically, she's a sex worker.
	Is escorting illegal?
	I've noticed that.
	By definition, it's illegal in California, and you're not paying for an actor.
	She's paying for time.
	She's paying for, or he's paying for her time, not her sex.
	Yeah.
	But then whatever happens, happens.
	Yeah, whatever highly like that.
	It's high-end.
	How much do you make?
	What makes it high-end versus low-end escorting?
	I think it's the dollar amount you're making per hour.
	Or like who you're fucking with.
	So how much?
	Because anybody can scrape up the money.
	You know, it doesn't matter who you are, whether you're the president or, you know.
	How much is a low-end escort and how much is a high-end escort?
	What's the difference?
	Like $100 to like a thousand to fifteen hundred to two thousand per hour?
	Power.
	Yeah, a thousand and up would be a high-end.
	Yeah.
	And so you're high-end escort.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I gotcha.
	You admitted to it.
	You're an escort.
	You know what?
	You know what?
	Stay safe.
	Okay.
	I mean, someone said I got $5.
	Final offer.
	Can we split the five?
	Each of us gets a dollar.
	I don't know.
	Amazing.
	Yeah, I mean, just so for my personal thing, look, I know it actually does lose me women that I'm not willing to pay for first dates.
	But at the end of the day, I'm just, I don't want to feel like a sucker.
	I've been there before.
	Is this like something you're dealing with personally?
	What do you mean?
	Like, is this something that's not?
	This is something that pretty much all men are dealing with.
	Let me ask you, how do you get out of this?
	Where do you go from this?
	You don't want to feel like a sucker.
	I don't know if this happened in the past.
	What now?
	How do I get you married?
	Well, so, okay, we'll get to the marriage thing a little bit because I know you wanted to talk about marriage.
	So I'm not necessarily opposed to falling into more of a, like, taking care of a girl.
	I certainly have the finances to do it down the road.
	But up front, no.
	You need to, like, I need to know, I need to get to know you before I'm prepared to do that.
	Okay, but what is that?
	So you need to get to know her in a way where you're not spending money on her because if you are, then you might get bit in the ass or what?
	It's really just a matter of principle to me.
	It's a lot of loss of money.
	I know, and I actually get the principle.
	I respect that.
	How do you, as a man, because you're a single guy in this crazy market right now, how do you move on?
	How do you navigate this?
	Do you go to the park and you hang out at the park?
	Oh, like, how do I do dates?
	How do you do dates and invest in and also invest no money because you're scared that she might sure?
	Okay, oh, I'll put you on some game.
	What did you have to say?
	So, if you want so badly to be fair and not pay the girl's meal, doesn't that kind of make the girl have less respect for herself and less self-esteem to be willing to go half and half on a first date?
	So, like, does that mean you're setting yourself up to be with less lower-value girls because you refuse to appreciate their value from the beginning?
	What do you mean, appreciate their value?
	Like, pay for the dinner.
	Why is that appreciating someone's value?
	Um, from a traditional standpoint, the manager's awareness.
	From a traditional standpoint, but like women are not really traditional anymore.
	I mean, you mentioned, you mentioned men should be gentlemen.
	Where are the ladies?
	We're right here.
	You just said you're an escort.
	I mean, like, you're not a lady.
	Excuse me?
	You're a female, but you're not a lady.
	What makes me not a lady?
	Well, I don't consider, I'm not, I suppose I'm not a gentleman.
	Because I got in a shitty situation at 18 and did what I had to do to survive and pay my bills.
	That doesn't, I mean, that doesn't undo the fact that, look, you're not.
	You don't make me not a lady.
	I'm a survivor.
	I'm someone that's really strong.
	Like, I don't understand how I wouldn't be a lady.
	Sure, you can be strong, but when I say lady, I'm sort of talking about traditional gender roles.
	So, a gentleman versus a lady.
	But traditionally, like a gentleman is someone who pays for your date, who protects you, who provides, who's a gentleman.
	Do you think we don't deserve that because we're sex workers?
	Do you think we don't deserve that because we're sex workers?
	It's not a question of deserving and not deserving, but what I'm trying to point out is that as sex workers, you are not traditional women.
	If you find that offensive, that I don't consider you traditional women, I'm sure you can admit yourself you're not a traditional woman.
	I'm not going to be a lady.
	I just figure you think that I should go beyond the street corner.
	That's not a thing.
	Well, that's not what I said, but you're not.
	What do we mean by lady?
	What's a lady?
	Yeah, what's a lady?
	Well, what is a lady?
	A lady would be the counterpoint of a gentleman.
	Okay.
	So basically, just adhering to traditional decorum and traditional gender rules.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So by virtue of being a sex worker, and this isn't me trying to attack sex workers, but you are not traditional.
	Ergo, you are not a lady.
	Well, you're not a gentleman.
	You do a podcast.
	That's not traditional.
	Well, I don't think my specific traditional man have?
	If not podcasting.
	A business.
	A business man.
	He's running a business.
	He's a business.
	He could provide for a woman and five kids.
	He's a CEO.
	Well, so could I.
	I could provide for kids too.
	But the metric, I mean, you're.
	The profession of selling yourself.
	Either way, a man's paying.
	What's the difference then if a man pays for an escort or pays for dinner?
	Well, if a man is sleeping with escorts, he's not a gentleman.
	Yeah, they end up paying somehow.
	I disagree.
	I think a man paying for dinner is looking for something more out of a woman other than just her sweet pussy.
	Well, I disagree.
	I disagree.
	Actually, I disagree.
	I disagree because here's why.
	Because here's why.
	Because a guy who is going to pay for a first date, he's trying to do everything to stack the cards in his favor in order for it to get to the end of the day.
	It's competitive.
	He's being competitive.
	So he's.
	But what's that finish line?
	Is it necessarily just having sex?
	I think genuinely most men want to get married, want to have kids, want to have a family.
	I agree with you.
	I think that's what most men want.
	And you're right.
	It's very hard right now to do that.
	Incredibly challenging.
	But I don't think that if you don't want to pay for the first date as a guy, that that necessarily means you just want a pussy.
	But it gives the impression to the girl that you like her.
	Like you don't like her.
	Wait, do you not talk to girls before you take them on a date?
	Oh, right.
	This comes back to your question, like, okay, how do I actually, how does this actually play out?
	How does it look?
	Okay, so, well, first off, no dinner dates.
	Okay.
	Never dinner dates.
	So it's either meet for like a tea or a coffee or something.
	Or you meet for a drink.
	I'm not a big drinker, but occasionally I'll have like a glass of wine or a beer.
	And I'm not really like, I mean, this has changed throughout the years.
	But here's the game plan.
	I'm giving you guys some game.
	So first off, you show up early, or you just show up on time because most of the time the girls are going to be late anyways.
	Five, ten minutes late.
	That's my experience.
	I'd say 90% of the time the girl's going to be 10 minutes late on the first date.
	So if you get there early, you just talk to the wait.
	It depends.
	If it's a sit-down place and they come to you, even if it's for a drink, sometimes there's waiters that will come to you for a drink.
	You just say, before she's there, you talk to the waiter and you're just like, hey, at the end, just bring two checks.
	Boom.
	So it's not even like a thing.
	So he puts a check in front of you, puts a check in front of her.
	You don't even have to say anything.
	The other thing is if it's like at a bar, you go up to the bar.
	If you get there early, you just pay for your drink up front and you only have that one drink the entire night.
	And then when she comes, you're like, oh, hey, I'm holding this table.
	Already got my drink.
	Boom, you drink your drink.
	And then, hey, go to the bar, get your own drink.
	So the goal is, the meta is to preempt the meta.
	You got to get your robots.
	Okay.
	No, the meta is to try to preemptively reduce your risk or your investment.
	Yeah, I mean, basically, just get there a few minutes early.
	Okay.
	Play the little game.
	Tell the waiter you want two separate checks.
	Boom.
	That way it's not awkward on the date when you're like, oh, two checks.
	There's not like this confusion.
	The waiter already knows what to do.
	You don't have to make a scene about it.
	Boom.
	He puts a check here.
	He puts a check there.
	Maybe I'm a big time cucklord.
	I don't know.
	I think with dating, I acknowledge there is a risk.
	And that risk might be that she's just not going to work out for me.
	And as the man, that's the burden I'm comfortable to accept.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	And I mean, even that applies to my situation too.
	I mean, the other thing you can do is go do something free.
	Go for a walk, go to the park.
	Now, some chicks are not down with that.
	Some girls are like, oh, like, oh, you got to take me to dinner.
	You got to get me this.
	Nah, like, if a girl's not down with a free date, if she's not down for a walk on the pier, not down for a walk at the park, she's playing some game.
	Sure.
	She wants a free meal or she wants something.
	So then you've already vetted her on to the next one.
	Okay.
	Right?
	Yep.
	Wait, I have a question.
	What's up?
	Okay, so can you be like a dominant man and not be like super traditional?
	Because I think that's what I like.
	I like dominant men, but that like they don't expect this like super like covered up like none.
	Same.
	You know what I mean?
	Like they're dominant.
	So like they, they're like masculine men.
	They're just not so traditional to the point where they're like, you need to be completely covered, this and that.
	Or you, well, I like guys that are dominant.
	Some guys really don't care that much.
	Obviously, they're not going to want you to go out.
	No guy wants you to go out with your titties out or even like just in a bikini in general.
	Like a man doesn't really want.
	That's not true.
	Well, let me ask you.
	Because men, a lot of the time, like men want their women to themselves.
	There's a lot of men out there that are like proven masculine men that are like, my bitch is fine.
	That's why all the men's opinions are coming from.
	How do you know every man and what they think?
	I never said every man.
	I've said most men.
	What men don't really like.
	So I kind of like it.
	I said most men would prefer their most men.
	Hold on, let her finish, please.
	Go ahead.
	Most men would prefer their woman to not be showing off their bodies 24-7.
	How do you know that?
	Some guys think that most men.
	Some guys do.
	But like based on what evidence is.
	Some guys are married.
	My friend, she's been married for sex.
	As you're saying some, we're saying most.
	And her can I see this?
	Yeah, like we want evidence.
	We want proof.
	Isn't it almost self-explanatory?
	What's the percentage?
	This is your opinion.
	But okay, don't you think, don't you, don't you?
	You're gonna show us the proof.
	Don't you think it's a little self-evident?
	Like, can you at least concede that most men don't want to date a sex worker?
	No.
	You think most men, so more than 50% of men are okay with dating sex workers.
	Because I have 150,000 followers, and I know most of them would love to date me.
	So that's like fuck you.
	They would also fuck with you.
	Think about how every single man watches porn and fantasizes about porn stars.
	Wait, wait, pause.
	If you think most men jerking off to you would want to date you, why is this man cheating on his wife with you and not dating you instead of breaking up with his wife?
	I don't want him to do that.
	I don't want to do that.
	I'm talking about that.
	I agree with her, though.
	I wouldn't want that because that would be a lot of responsibility for me, and I don't want to be tied down to any one person.
	So then you must acknowledge that these men don't want to date you.
	They just want to fuck you or jerk off to you.
	I mean, no, because I think a lot of them do want to date me, the way they talk to me on OnlyFans and how close we are.
	Well, because of the way that you're making them feel like a certain way.
	Presenting ourselves easily.
	Yeah, but that's not real.
	You don't care about them in a way, and all they want you to do is pop your pussy.
	That's not true.
	I do care about them.
	You have no idea how I feel.
	You care about your customers like that for me.
	I 100% care.
	I've had customers pick me up from my house and like go on date.
	Because they want to fuck you.
	Where's the ring?
	There's no ring.
	I'm not sure what I'm doing.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And that's the goal.
	That should be the goal.
	That should be a goal to get married and have kids.
	Why should that be?
	I have bigger dreams for my life than being a housewife.
	Let me ask you this.
	How many men have you had escort meetings with that you didn't end up fucking?
	And then subsequently had a second meetup?
	How many times?
	Have you?
	Yeah.
	So you meet up with a man, you don't fuck him, and then you meet up with him again.
	Oh, yeah.
	He comes back.
	Yeah, he's talking.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Amazing.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	I'm sussy.
	And I have out sex all the time.
	Yeah, and I have to.
	Sometimes I like their ball.
	So this is.
	I'm totally fucked up.
	I'm totally foreign to this world.
	You can, like, have a, you know, people like you.
	They're just like lonely and they just want to hang out.
	Haram!
	Honestly, like, there's like dudes that like can get women that just like us for us.
	And it's not always all about sex.
	And they'd and they take you out, spend money on you.
	And they just want to have dinner and then part ways.
	Yeah.
	I think like 18 years or something like that.
	And he's like, he would be considered like a traditional man and a masculine man.
	And she does OnlyFans and he's a slip.
	I had a nip slip.
	Yeah, let's just move on.
	Well, everyone's talking about it, so what would be a big deal?
	Just gonna get in trouble.
	What the fuck?
	Bro, can I get a fucking easy show?
	Hello?
	What the fuck?
	Hey, we're just gonna keep rolling.
	Fuck it.
	Anyway, here's my concern.
	I think that if you are planning, sorry, dinner mic.
	If you're looking to do sex work for 10 or 15 years and then you're 35 and you're looking to get out of it and settle down and find a nice traditional man, I think you're gonna find those men are gone.
	Those men are already married.
	Those men are already having kids.
	Those men have already found someone else that didn't kind of dilly dally.
	Or now you're competing with all the women that they are going for now.
	So they're not looking at you as the prize anymore.
	Because they can go for you, but you're older now and now you want to try to get married and these men are going to have other options.
	They're gonna have younger options too, so I don't know, I don't really agree with that because not every man is looking for a girl that's young.
	You know, there's some guys that are looking for women in the 30s, 40s, 50s.
	It's not all about, oh, you have to be 21.
	Well, I guess what I'm trying to say is, I think any traditional, attractive, successful man, any man that you would want, by the time they're 35, 40, they've already settled down.
	But what if they got divorced?
	Then maybe you find a divorced dad?
	Yeah, totally, totally possible.
	If you're comfortable with that.
	Yeah, that probably can happen.
	What's going on back there?
	She just killed the bucks.
	Oh, just what?
	The flyer.
	She killed it.
	She got the fly.
	It can just stay there.
	It's whatever.
	All right.
	Here, let's go to let's, Eric, can you pull up Twitch really quick?
	Let's shout out to our Twitch homies.
	Okay, yo, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have it.
	Yeah, let's see.
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	Go drop us a follow in the prime sub.
	Thank you for the bits.
	Stay safe, base.
	Thank you for the follow, guys.
	Appreciate it, Jaden.
	Okay, and then we have a couple, let's see, chats here.
	We have Feeling Dangerous.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, man.
	Some of these women make absolute bank.
	Didn't one of them say she makes over a million a year, but I got a pay on the first date.
	That is absurd.
	Love the show, Brian.
	Can't wait for it to come back in a few weeks.
	Hey, Feeling Dangerous.
	Thank you, man.
	Yo, don't forget my tier four perk.
	I sent in the IGDM.
	I'll get to it.
	You forgot last show.
	Also, thank you for kicking Bernadine.
	I hope she gets divorced.
	Bro, come on, bro.
	She's a good person.
	Kick Erica, please.
	She's a virgin with childish opinions.
	Are you virgin?
	I don't kiss and tell.
	She don't tell anything.
	Have you okay?
	You were dating a guy for six months, right?
	Or in this situation for six months?
	Yes.
	I mean, have you hooked up with a guy before?
	I don't kiss and tell.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	I'm not a virgin.
	I'm giving you one opportunity.
	Like, you've been really evasive this entire show.
	Like, you've willingly come on a dating podcast, yet you refuse to, like, answer just basic dating questions.
	I feel some things that are just more personal to people than others.
	But, like, you've come on a dating podcast.
	Like, we talk about sex.
	We talk about relationships.
	Like, I don't need you to, like, tell fucking details about, like, I'll need the details of your sex life.
	I'm just asking if, like, have you hooked up with somebody before?
	I just believe that's personal, and I don't think that I should be able to do that.
	Well, can I ask you this?
	Before the kick happens, let me ask you this.
	Do you market yourself as a virgin?
	Is this part of your marketing technique for OnlyFans?
	Are you concerned that your OnlyFans customers would have a different opinion if they knew you weren't a virgin?
	That's not what I'm worried about.
	It's more so the fact that I just want to show myself in what I feel is representative, like OnlyFans.
	But you don't know what I do on OnlyFans, so it's like for you to kind of have a click on this.
	Let me ask you, right?
	Do you think not being a virgin decreases your value or something?
	Why are you hesitant to say?
	I just, it's personal to me, and I think that that that's okay.
	And I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.
	And if somebody, it's the same way as if you thought that it was personal and I asked you a question, I would completely think that's okay with you.
	Yeah, no, I think you're totally within your right to not say you are on a dating show.
	So I think it's kind of expected you would say, to be fair to Brian.
	But I think if you don't want to say, that's totally fine.
	Like, there are private things about my life that I wouldn't say in front of 10,000 people.
	That's fine.
	Did you just come on here to advertise your OnlyFans then?
	Because what's the point of coming on a dating podcast if you're not going to talk about your dating life?
	I've never, he knew, I messaged him and I told him that I've never been on a date before.
	So then why would you discount that?
	No, you said you've never been in a long-term relationship.
	Well, it's the same thing as dating, isn't it?
	You said you were in a situationship for six months.
	Yeah, you have to be a little bit more than a second.
	So you were fucking somebody and then not, like, what?
	Like, that doesn't make sense.
	I just, how are you in a situationship and then you've never go off, Kelly?
	That doesn't.
	No, but that's okay.
	You were entitled to your own opinions, and that's completely fine, but I just am to mine as well, and I personally don't want to share some things, and that shouldn't be an issue.
	And that's completely up to you.
	So then what are you going to share?
	Well, there's other questions that you can ask based off of, rather than just my body count.
	We didn't ask you that.
	Tell us your body count.
	Let me ask you this.
	She didn't even tell us her age.
	Are you saving yourself for marriage?
	No.
	No.
	So she's not going to be able to do that.
	So are you just saving yourself for the right person, but you don't need to be married?
	Yes.
	And I personally don't want to go past that point because I respectfully, like, I don't want to share.
	And if you guys want me to leave, I'm more than welcome to leave right now.
	I just, I'm not comfortable with that.
	And I think that should be respected.
	And I would respect you guys if that was the same situation regardless who is saying it.
	That's just how I personally feel.
	It's one thing, like, it's just, there's been at least three different instances where you're like, I don't want to share that.
	I don't want to share that.
	I don't want to share that.
	You didn't want to share your age, which is pretty bad faith because, like, who isn't open about sharing their age?
	Well, if you just want to share with you, I just don't want to be belittled by me telling you my age.
	I don't want you to look at me in a different perspective and I think Madison over there is 18.
	And that's okay, but she's entitled to her own opinions, and I'm entitled to mine, right?
	But I think it makes it really obvious that you're really young if you say something.
	Yeah, for real.
	That's what I was going to say.
	We kind of can tell by your age.
	You're trying to be very mysterious, but it's just like why.
	I think it is totally within your right as a woman and a person to say, I don't want to share something, but you're on a dating show, right?
	And so I think that's the first thing that I'm going to do.
	there's other there's other questions that can be involved when it comes to a dating podcast it doesn't have to be like about your sex life or love life or age or well Love life is different.
	Sex life is different, two different things.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So it's like, personally, that's just my preference.
	I'll save it for later.
	I mean, you're right insofar as you don't have to answer that question, but it's just if you're just not comfortable answering, that's fine.
	I'm trying to loop you into the conversation here.
	I'm trying to loop you into the conversation, and you're just not making it easier.
	If I look at it this way, it's a lose-lose situation, personally.
	What's lose-lose?
	If I were to say it, right?
	Coming from somebody who's done social media for a long time, personally, I've done TikTok for a very long time.
	If I were to, I understand this is a very different platform, and I completely get that it can have different perspectives.
	But I've watched your podcast before I came on here.
	I just learned about it yesterday, watched a few different videos.
	And I saw some girl say a number and say it was low, and you guys still considered it high.
	I would be judged here if it was low.
	But if it's online, now I'm being judged in a different perspective from other people.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So it's like I'm being judged.
	I didn't ask for your body count.
	I didn't ask for your body count.
	Like, if I were to ask some sex related question, like you know, if we start, if we start talking, if we started talking about like you know favorite position, would you just omit answering that question?
	Yes, you would.
	What's your favorite sexual like?
	That's a fun, light-hearted question to ask on a dating podcast.
	What's your favorite position?
	I've just honestly, I've just when it comes to the bed questions, like being in bed no, I'm seriously I've sorry, I've had some very traumatic experiences myself, so I shouldn't have to share the bed questions.
	You know what I'm saying.
	But it, when it comes to going on a date and having those conversations of like you know what I'm saying like I was more than willing to answer and I did respond to those.
	So it's like isn't it kind of silly that you would answer that question but you can't answer your age?
	You have your own opinion and I have mine and that's okay and I completely respect it and I'm open to understanding other people's perspectives and I'm not against it and that's just the way that I view things and if that makes other people uncomfortable, then I can leave.
	I have no issue with that.
	You're over 18, correct?
	Yes okay, all right, I'll let it.
	I'm gonna let it slide but okay, we have Ripley Glass here.
	Don't forget my tier four perk.
	Oh, did I read this one already?
	I yeah, I did my bad, my bad.
	Hold on, let me skip that.
	Okay, we have.
	Hold on, guys.
	I'm triggering this.
	I are none of you.
	304s are ever getting married.
	How many dudes have come in or on you and then your partner touched kissed, F'd you, what?
	How many dudes have came in, bro?
	Okay, you guys don't have to answer that.
	Guys, come on, at least keep it semi decent, respectful.
	Jesus Christ, what a fucking shit show of a stream.
	All right, we have uh, Dayvon Jackson.
	Thank you man, for the rescue here with this message, hold on, let me see if it.
	Um, what the fuck it's not getting true.
	Oh, none of you wait.
	What the fuck bro, you're gonna hammer that one home huh?
	Yeah, hold on, let me skip.
	I think it's because I clicked it twice.
	Okay, here we go.
	Dayvon Jackson hello, why isn't it triggering there?
	What the frick bro?
	Okay dude, I don't know, hold on, it's gonna.
	It's Dayvon.
	I don't know why it's not triggering, Dayvon.
	I here.
	I'll get some regular super chats.
	I'll come to your, I'll come back to yours Dayvon, what's up?
	Oh, there we go.
	These women are wholeheartedly arguing for why they think it's okay that they are getting busted open on Twitter, and I should accept that as a man and spend thousands on her so I can get the same BJ.
	The BBC on the bird app got.
	Get real.
	Okay, now it's gonna pop up like a billion times.
	Thank you, Dayvon Jackson.
	Good to see you in the chat man.
	Okay, we have.
	Hold on, let me see what I have here.
	What's the bird at Twitter?
	How long has she been gone in the bathroom?
	Sure.
	Can we pull a super chat up?
	Yeah, pull a super chat up for me.
	I'll read it.
	The 304 one.
	I'll ask a question.
	I went to the corn convention.
	There's one.
	Would you guys consider yourselves an alpha female?
	No.
	No.
	I'm dismissive.
	That word.
	I'm going to switch.
	How many times is that going to trigger?
	Holy shit.
	What's an alpha female?
	Well, I was going to ask you what you think an alpha female is.
	I don't know.
	It sounds manly.
	I mean, that is waiting.
	What sounds manly about it, alpha?
	Yeah.
	Alpha just means that's not really manly.
	Because there's an alpha male, there's an alpha female.
	Oh, okay.
	No, I wouldn't consider myself one.
	Would you date some?
	You're the one that said you made like a million dollars a year, right?
	I have before.
	Okay.
	Meth check.
	Okay.
	Would you date a man that made one-tenth as much as you?
	Is that a problem for you, the finances?
	No.
	You would not date him or?
	No, it's not a problem.
	Oh, not a problem.
	As long as he's like a go-getter and like loves what he does and he can like handle business, then like I'm cool with it.
	I mean, what if he loved what he did?
	He was passionate about it, but it made him like $35,000 a year.
	But usually people that love what they do and they're passionate about it, they make good money because they're passionate and people that are passionate do well usually.
	I don't know.
	What if he's an ice cream car driver and he sells ice cream and he makes 35 grand a year anyway?
	And he doesn't have the type of drive that like I like in that guy.
	Okay, so you're saying the drive you like would necessarily mean he's making a lot of money.
	But it's not about the money, it's about the drive that got him there.
	Like I would, I would be with, I don't mind dating like a guy who's like a plumber if he like, you know, has a plumber business and like likes doing it because like it's a family business.
	Like I'm cool with that.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right, let me get some super chats here.
	We have Puffy Vegas.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	I went to the corn convention.
	I met 22 entertainers and put them on my IG.
	Will any of the girls be at the convention next year?
	Will any be there next?
	This is Avian or something.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, Puffy.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	Mike Davis, thank you.
	You redirected the convo way too quick.
	Let's talk about how you got to level up.
	Plus, I've heard my name spoken with disrespect.
	Simp, et cetera.
	Listen, you scrubs.
	I've never sent a dollar or DM to any of these hoes.
	I prob them up to fuck with their heads, prop them up to fuck their heads only to leave them to free fall.
	Okay, thank you, Mike Davis.
	Good for you.
	Really?
	I don't know.
	Okay, we have, let's see here.
	Oh, sorry, let me pull that one back up.
	One sec, guys.
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	Okay, rock and roll.
	We had a chat from before.
	He asked everyone to rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10.
	So.
	Do you guys want to rate yourselves on a scale of 1 to 10?
	Go ahead.
	6.
	I'd say 6 as well.
	Eric, just a heads up.
	Just a reminder, what we talked about.
	If there's any plants, I need you to go to SonyCam, okay?
	That's eight.
	I believe that's, do you know what number that is?
	Okay, just, well, I just, is that eight on the, okay.
	Okay, just be wary if there's any other fuckery.
	Like, if you see it coming, just, I need you to.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So we have, let's see.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Let's see.
	I think that was it.
	Yeah, I think we're good there.
	Okay, what was I going to touch on?
	Sorry, guys.
	A couple things going on behind the scenes here, so hold on.
	Say for later.
	Should we keep going around the table for that question before we rate ourselves up?
	Rate out of 10.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Sorry, let's just start again.
	On a scale of 1 to 10, what do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10?
	Go ahead.
	Like a 5 or a 6?
	I'd say 6 because I feel as if I'm above average, but there's more that I could do to make myself better.
	Six.
	I would say like a four because I have a big forehead.
	I would say seven.
	Eight.
	Eight.
	I guess the guys we can answer too.
	Ten to my wife.
	That's all that matters.
	I'm emancipated.
	It doesn't matter what anyone thinks.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I can.
	Give myself a six, 6.9 on a good day.
	Okay.
	You'd be a 10 if you had a wife.
	Think about it.
	Well, okay, so.
	Sure, we'll talk about that.
	Marriage, right?
	You said you wanted to convince me to get married.
	That's why he's here, is to convince me that I should get married.
	Yep.
	Do you want to get married?
	He doesn't.
	I don't.
	You don't want to?
	No.
	Okay, why don't you want to get married?
	It's a loss for men.
	It's bad for men.
	What does that mean?
	Divorce, financial repercussions, alimony, lawyers, the states involved.
	What if you found a girl that you really loved and she wanted to get married?
	Isn't that how most people feel about their partner before they get married?
	Yeah, but are you just going to date forever?
	I don't understand this idea, like, okay, if you don't want to get married, then that means you just want to be a player the rest of your life.
	I didn't say you were going to be a player.
	I said you want to just date forever.
	Well, I could be in a long-term relationship, but I don't need to get married.
	Okay.
	Let me give you this.
	I heard a couple days ago on the podcast, I think a guest said that the national divorce rate is 55%.
	I think in reality the national average is 45 to 50, but that number is super heavily stat-padded by people that are getting divorced multiple times.
	These are people that get divorced two, three, four, five, six times.
	They are kind of clogging up the numbers.
	The real number you want to look at is the rate of first-time marriage divorce.
	Okay?
	So you've never been married, your wife has never been married.
	What is that divorce rate?
	Okay?
	That's 35%.
	So now we're talking like one-third rather than over one-half.
	We've already bumped that number down a ton.
	Beyond that, you can break it down demographically.
	You're a white man.
	If you married a white woman, that first-time marriage divorce rate for two white people marrying in the country is around 13%.
	Oh, wow.
	It's nowhere near as high as 55.
	So, and I focus on the demographic because that's you and that's me.
	My wife is white.
	Neither of us married before.
	You said it's 35 for first time.
	For white people?
	For white, 13%.
	Yeah.
	White white.
	Wait, 13% divorce rate?
	13% first-time marriage divorce rate is 13 for white man, white woman, given they've never been married before.
	Okay.
	So if you marry a white woman and she's being married for the first time, your divorce rate's only 13%.
	That's still pretty fucking terrible, not going to lie.
	That is not terrible.
	13% is dog shit.
	Well, listen.
	13% drop rate?
	Listen, if I go to Vegas and I'm betting all the benefits of marriage, the downsides of divorce, we can talk about those in a minute, and the odds are 13 to what, 87.
	I put all my money on the 87.
	You mentioned alimony.
	10% of divorces result in alimony.
	So if you've got a 13% divorce rate, white man marrying white woman, 13% divorce rate, your alimony.
	What do you, I'm not a statistician.
	It's like a 1.3% alimony role if you're getting married on that marriage, right?
	It's not as bad as people think it is.
	I think there's been a lot of anti-natalist, anti-marriage propaganda.
	It's not as bad as people think it is.
	It really is not.
	Who lives their lives by statistics?
	I would have to see the stats on that.
	I do.
	Probably a lot of people.
	Probably a lot of people should, yeah.
	I've done the maths.
	I've done the maths.
	I don't know.
	It's just, I don't.
	I want to see the stats you're citing, but so if it doesn't work out for other people, you just don't do it because it's like, oh, it didn't work.
	Well, then I ask him, okay, so it's whatever.
	Let's say it was 50%.
	Let's say the divorcer in the country was 50%.
	Sure.
	First-time marriage, whatever.
	Are you, as a man, you're a smart guy, are you better at vetting a partner than think of all the morons in the country?
	Are you better at vetting a partner, a life partner, than most other people?
	I look at you and I'd say, yeah, probably.
	Just because it's, to her point, just because it's national, average 50, does not mean you are 50.
	There's a lot of dumb people in the country that are reckless, impulsive.
	They go to Vegas, they get married.
	It's a fact.
	You're not a dumb guy.
	Yeah, well, I agree.
	Flattery is not going to get me married, but you have a lot of women here that you could get married.
	Think you could start a relationship and you could get married and be happy today, right now.
	Maybe you're looking at your future wife at this moment.
	I highly doubt that.
	It could happen.
	I highly doubt.
	Well, I mean, there's like four of the girls here are in a relationship.
	No, You need a traditional.
	You see Kiki over there?
	That's my wife.
	Do you want to have her, but do you want to have kids?
	Yes.
	But do you want a baby mama?
	A baby mama?
	Like a girl.
	You don't want a wife?
	Like who's she's I mean, it's you're putting like a label on it.
	Um isn't baby mama reserved for like you're not involved with her?
	No.
	Well, I mean it's not your wife, but it's your mama.
	Hold on just a sec, guys.
	Brickson great job controlling the show today if adult content became outlawed in the u.s tomorrow how would any of survive besides being a parasite with a v the lifestyle you perpetuate is toxic and just overall terrible for young women send the deluge You sound like you're very full of hate.
	deluge is that the deluge I don't know.
	Victor, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I don't know if I've controlled it as well as I would have liked, but thank you, man.
	Do you guys have a response to Victor?
	He's talking mad shit about you guys.
	Why would it be outlawed tomorrow?
	You have some weird feelings.
	I'd probably be sorry.
	Go ahead.
	There's some weird hatred going on.
	Yeah, it's very intense feelings.
	But we like that you're feeling things about us.
	We like any energy directed at us.
	We love attention.
	Do you guys think that pornographic content is good for society or bad for society?
	I think it's a double-edged sword.
	Like either they're getting out their urges through porn and someone who's consenting or it's encouraging fucked up urges.
	It's a double-edged sword.
	I would be kind of fucked up though if there's like an apocalypse because like I have a podcast.
	I feel like that's not going to be like top-tier fucking survival skills, you know?
	You need to make a homestead and build a bunker.
	That's the dream.
	I'm down.
	I'm fucking going to do it.
	Okay, yeah, we'll do it together.
	When, can we be like a, I used to be in, I don't know, like a survival group.
	Same.
	Like when shit hits the fan, when shit hits the fan, you need like, okay, we're going to meet here.
	We're going to do this.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	Here's the plan.
	But you're in Arizona.
	No, no, no.
	You're in Portland, Washington, excuse me.
	Excuse me.
	Yeah.
	We are so stereotyped.
	Like, we're both sitting here wearing flannel talking about doomsday prepping.
	This is the most stereotypical thing in the world.
	I need a flannel like aviator hunter.
	Have you seen The Last of Us on HBO?
	No, I haven't.
	There's like one of the episodes, there's a guy who prepped before the zombie apocalypse.
	He ends up being gay.
	All right.
	Yeah, okay.
	Then what happened?
	And then they survive for they grow old and they die.
	That's good.
	As a gay couple in the zombie apocalypse.
	You got a boyfriend in the zombie apocalypse.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Thank you for the whatever that was.
	Where was it?
	Oh, Victor.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We were talking about marriage.
	You were asking me, what?
	I'm trying to remember.
	Stats.
	Yeah, we got the stats out of the way.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you want kids?
	Oh, kids.
	Yeah, I think that's where we left off.
	Is that for us?
	That'd be interesting.
	I don't think so.
	Sorry, guys.
	There's like a siren outside.
	Yeah, I do want kids, but I'm like a little slightly on the fence, but yeah, I do want kids.
	Would you have kids whilst unmarried?
	Yes.
	You absolutely would.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Do you think that that would negatively impact the kids in any way?
	No.
	You don't think so?
	No.
	I guess what changes?
	I think having that foundational lifelong oath with your partner, knowing that you will not break that, swearing that oath is a very, very big piece of the relationship.
	Knowing that failure is not an option.
	But it is, because people get divorced all the time.
	Not to you, it can't be.
	Huh?
	I'm saying for you, failure cannot be an option.
	If you want to be a good parent, failure cannot be an option.
	You need to not be afraid of that.
	But I mean, people get divorced and it's not in your control.
	I think what is happening right now in society, I think a lot of people are getting married a little bit too flippantly.
	I think there's not enough emphasis on finding and vetting that proper partner.
	And as a result, people are marrying too recklessly and they're marrying bad partners.
	And also, I think people, it's easy to point the finger at modern women and say you're not living up to your traditional feminine role.
	Men are down bed too.
	How many men are truly traditional and good partners?
	I look at men, I see a bunch of fat, fat, porn-addicted addicts.
	They're addicted to alcohol, drug.
	Men are down bad also.
	How can you blame, I'm going to simp for a minute, how can you blame these women for transgressing from traditional femininity when so many of their potential suitors, these men, are absolute losers?
	They're fat, they're addicted, they're jerking off to hardcore pornography all day.
	If you think the role of a man, a traditional man, is to lead and set the pace and build society and maintain what it is, we have failed.
	Men have failed.
	Men have failed.
	Men are done bad.
	And as such, the women have changed also.
	I think first it's a failure of men.
	And so I think we need to fix that.
	And I think that starts with men.
	It starts with the patriarchs.
	If you think that women are so propagandized by liberal college professors and our fucked up modern society, then you've accepted the premise that propaganda can work and that their minds can be distorted.
	Then propagandize them back, then fix them.
	As the man, then fix them.
	Then help them.
	But first, I think you need to fix yourself.
	And I'm not talking to you specifically, but I'm talking men in general.
	Men need to fix themselves as well.
	The problem is not just solely women.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Exactly.
	Agreed.
	I mean, I think responsibility, both people have responsibility.
	Both men and women have responsibility in this.
	And idealistically, yes, I think there ought to be a return to tradition, a return to modesty.
	But I feel like the cat is kind of out of the bag.
	I don't think there's we're going back.
	Let me tell you something.
	So because I don't think we can have a return to tradition, meth head, mama girl, you only like attention and energy from simps.
	Because the energy you got from actual men made you cry in the bathroom for the last 20 minutes.
	Weak men have allowed this behavior too long and will create hard times.
	Thus, the cycle goes on.
	You have a response to Victor?
	I wasn't listening.
	What?
	I tuned it out.
	Sorry, Victor, she tuned it out.
	Here, I'll repeat it.
	I'll repeat it, though.
	He says, meth head, mama girl, you only like attention and energy from simps.
	No response.
	No comment.
	Okay.
	Sorry, Victor, no comment.
	Okay.
	So bringing it back to the discussion on marriage, the cat's out of the bag.
	So because of that, because women move differently, men have to adapt.
	I don't think men have changed all that much.
	I think men have deteriorated quite a bit.
	I think men have facilitated the change in women as well.
	I'm not saying men haven't changed, but okay, you have the sexual revolution in the 1960s.
	You have hormonal birth control.
	Okay, so you have the sexual revolution.
	And look, women, I believe that women control access to sex.
	No doubt.
	So if we want to see a return to traditional values, since women are the gatekeepers of sex, they determine when sex happens.
	So if the threshold is marriage, and then I'll have sex with you, that would be the threshold.
	Men have always been like trying to sleep with women.
	Now, you could argue, like, okay, well, in like strict Christian societies, chastity has been valued in both men and women, but let me float an idea.
	There's a very cool book.
	It's called Men Amongst the Ruins.
	And the sort of key principle is: if society is irredeemably messed up right now, if things need to get way worse before they get better, if society is destined to crumble down and become a rubble,
	ruinous rubble, would you not want to be one of those beacons of traditional masculinity standing amongst those ruins to help fix society after it's crumbled with you and your trad wife and you and your trad family?
	I think that's a noble goal.
	You can say, listen, it's a very bad environment right now, but I need to persevere still.
	Sure.
	Well, the thing is, is I don't know if I'm like perfectly a trad guy.
	I think there are some things about me that are traditional.
	However, I'm not a perfectly trad conservative guy.
	I consider myself kind of politically moderate, but so yeah, I mean, look, I just, just to kind of bring it back to divorce, though, I mean, look, alimony payments, child support, it's just not, it's not a good move.
	Well, okay, we could talk about those individually.
	Like I said, 10% of divorces end up in with alimony payments.
	I'm going to give a very, very unpopular take here.
	I think sometimes alimony payments are totally warranted.
	I'll give you my personal example.
	My wife was climbing the, she worked at a, she worked in the finance industry in Stockholm.
	We married when she was 25.
	We said, listen, we're going to get married.
	We're going to pursue a traditional marriage.
	You're going to stay home.
	We're going to have kids.
	And I'm going to be the sole income provider.
	Okay, we're both happy with that.
	We agree to those terms.
	She sacrificed what otherwise already was and could have been even more so a lucrative career in order to be my stay-at-home wife and take care of me and the house and the kids.
	If 10 years from now, I start beating her and divorce her, or sorry, I beat her up and I cheat on her and she would rightfully so divorce me in that scenario, would she not be morally deserving of some recompense?
	I think she would be because she made quite a big sacrifice to be my wife and I'm the one that fucked it up.
	Yeah, so I mean there are definitely scenarios where alimony is justified.
	Obviously, I kind of understand the reason for alimony.
	For example, if she disregards pursuing a career in pursuit of having children, raising a family, taking care of the household, I get it.
	I get it because, you know, and then to just dump her into the workforce with no resources, I get it.
	However, I guess I would say, though, for example, like, let's say that was the case, but let's say instead of the guy being abusive, let's say she cheated on the husband.
	But all those same criteria are the same, or she just got bored and she wants out of the marriage.
	Yeah.
	The guy didn't do anything to warrant the divorce.
	Exactly, yep.
	So in those scenarios, it's just...
	I agree with you.
	That's...
	That's a problem.
	I am, I would say personally against no-fault divorce.
	I think we need to get rid of no-fault divorce.
	And I would say cheating or spousal abuse is fault for a divorce.
	But in that scenario, there was no fault, and she leaves and gets an alimony.
	That's a problem.
	You're right about that.
	Well, I would like to ask a lawyer this.
	I'm not sure what it is, but in at-fault divorces, is alimony still awarded?
	I don't know if the courts even consider if there's fault anymore or people just...
	I think it depends on the agreement if there's a prenup.
	Well, prenups get thrown.
	I think if a wife cheats on her husband, he did something wrong.
	Yeah, he made a fault.
	I think so.
	I disagree.
	She's not just against a faith.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry to make sure I heard.
	If a husband cheats on a wife, you said?
	No, if a wife cheats on her husband.
	Oh, no, I disagree with you.
	He did something.
	Oh, come on.
	Yeah.
	So if the woman does something bad, she has no agency.
	the man's fault if a woman does something no no no she She's at fault too, but she was probably telling him for a while, like, you're doing something.
	Well, you say probably, what if she wasn't?
	What if she just is a sociopath?
	Well, that's, I mean, I would believe in like a marriage that works, you would talk about things and try to, marriages aren't easy, so you have to talk about things.
	You're not just going to not tell your husband if he's like, what if she did it and just cheat on it?
	Did you guys do that?
	If you were married to someone, would you guys like, if they were upsetting you for a while, would you just not say anything?
	No, I would talk about it.
	Yeah, you talk about it.
	I wouldn't cheat on him.
	Yeah, I wouldn't cheat.
	But what about the woman that does?
	What do you mean?
	What about the woman that doesn't talk about it and she just decides to go cheat?
	That's not the man's fault.
	That, I mean, why would she not talk about it, though?
	What if she's just a bad person?
	Why would someone rob a bank?
	Why would someone murder someone?
	They're just bad person.
	That guy married her, so he loved her, right?
	Yeah.
	So then he knew what she was when he married her.
	Well, that's just a bad person.
	What if they've been married for like a week and then she cheats on him?
	Right?
	So they really don't know each other as well as someone that's been married for 20 years.
	But when you be with someone for a while before you marry them, a lot of people don't.
	Unfortunately, you're always a cheater.
	Like, you're not born like a cheater and like in the future, like, like it.
	Why would you just like marry someone you barely know?
	My brother got married within three months of knowing his wife.
	Hmm.
	That's weird.
	But he barely knew her and he married her?
	Yeah, and they're still together.
	It's been three years.
	The point is, it's not out of the realm of possibility or reality that a woman could cheat on a man and have it not be the man's fault.
	I think...
	I think you saying.
	So he's just doing everything right and she just loves him so much and she goes and cheats?
	Let me ask you this.
	Let's say the man did do something wrong.
	Let's say the man.
	Let's say the man beat her.
	Worst case scenario, okay?
	Is she justified in cheating?
	Yes.
	Do you think so?
	I would say she should get a divorce from him and not be a mother.
	Some people should get divorced and then cheat.
	Some people I've actually heard when they're being abused, they cheat to get out of the relationship to make them fall out of love with them.
	Why wouldn't you just get a divorce?
	Because some divorces from abusive people end in.
	Can you say the D word?
	Like the man might.
	Yeah, we get the idea.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, look, as far as getting married, I guess my question to you is, and if any of you at the table want to try to convince me or change my mind, what benefit do I get in marriage that I can't get in just a long-term relationship?
	Okay, so...
	Nothing.
	Like, let's say I'm a secular guy.
	There's no religious component to getting married for me.
	What is the benefit?
	Or even if I am religious.
	I don't want to make it a religious argument.
	Let's keep it a secular argument.
	What benefit do I get by being married that I can't get out of a long-term relationship?
	I think the best answer I can give you is, I mean, there's like tangibles and intangibles.
	I'll try to give you some tangibles because the intangibles are a little bit more loosey-goosey.
	Every single stat we have suggests that people that get married, they live two years longer on average.
	They make money.
	You make more money if you're married.
	There's been a lot of longitudinal happiness indexes suggesting people that are married are happier.
	I don't know if that same data has been gathered for people that are just cohabitating long term.
	We know that people that are married have better, happier, more successful children.
	I don't know about that compared to cohabitation though.
	But yeah, wouldn't that be, you're saying people who are married are faring better in all these different ways, but wouldn't that just be comparing it to the general population?
	Well, it would be general population and people that are cohabitating.
	But maybe, you're right.
	We don't have the one-to-one.
	I don't think we have a one-to-one.
	As far as I know, we don't have the data for people that are cohabitating, just because there's not so many of those.
	I don't know.
	But from personal experience, you're kind of right.
	I've noticed married couples are happier and then people who have been together a while but don't get married, it's not as happy of a relationship or a lot of people.
	I fail to see what the difference would be.
	Take a girl that I'm in a seven-year relationship with, or maybe let's say three-year relationship, and then it continues.
	You have two different paths, right?
	One, it continues, one, it is a marriage.
	What changes?
	I think, like, I think deep down subconsciously, I'll talk about the intangibles now.
	I think that knowing that you have sworn a legal lifelong oath of fidelity, a contract with this person reduces the chances that you'll break up over some stupid argument.
	Well, I think it increases your longevity as a relationship.
	Another really strong tangible, it just popped in my brain because I have a stay-at-home spouse who has no income.
	Like, the tax benefit of having a no-income stay-at-home spouse is way better.
	Way better.
	I make more money because of that.
	There's tax benefits.
	Yeah, she kind of artificially bumps me down because she has no income.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That's fair, I guess.
	But I don't think the financial, at least for me, I recognize that that might be a benefit of marriage.
	That financial component is not incentive enough for me to want to get married.
	I agree with that too.
	But you're going to consider having kids, regardless.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Open to kids, leaning towards kids, yes.
	But marriage, I don't think so.
	How do you explain to your kids why you didn't marry?
	Like, why didn't you marry mommy when they asked you that?
	I tell them that I'm deeply in love with her and I just chose not to get the government involved in my relationship.
	I don't need the state involved in my relationship.
	I don't need to have some fucking bullshit ceremony where we waste, some people spend $50,000 on a marriage more.
	I don't think, as far as the marriage ceremony goes, I think it's a waste of money.
	You can get married on the beach and it not be like super like.
	I just point to a girl and that's my wife.
	I don't need the government to tell me that that's my wife.
	But like so you would wear the rings and stuff.
	No, I mean we don't need to play dress up, but that's my girl.
	But kids ask like, why a lot?
	Like why would you, why don't you guys do that?
	Why don't like homeschool?
	Let's fucking go.
	Let me ask you this.
	Would you personally, privately, no state entity involved, no religious entity involved?
	Would you one-on-one with the woman you've chosen to spend your life with in an unmarried way, would you have a private conversation where you swear your loyalty to her until the day you die?
	Would you have that conversation off the record, no paperwork?
	Sure.
	Would you, like, I'm asking, like, I don't know if that exists, but.
	No, it's just a conversation.
	Brian, I swear my life to you until the day I die.
	Sure.
	You do that?
	Okay.
	Sure.
	So it's not that oath of long-term commitment you're worried about.
	It's entirely the construct of marriage.
	I'm full.
	Here's the thing.
	Like, when it comes to marriage, what are the words they say?
	Till death do us apart, till sickness and in health.
	Everybody says that before they get married.
	Look at the divorce rate.
	Look at how many people get divorced.
	So people's words mean nothing.
	People's commitment mean nothing.
	People's bond means nothing.
	Well, once again, your divorce rate is 13%.
	How low would that number have to be for you to do?
	It doesn't matter.
	If it was 5%, I probably just, if it was 5%, I probably just wouldn't even bother.
	1%.
	It's just not, the financial risk is just not worth it.
	See, because look, my thing is, is that I'm a businessman.
	You know I'm a business quoting Tupac here.
	You know I'm a businessman because you find me at my places of business.
	And so I'm not going to sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it.
	I don't sign contracts that don't benefit me.
	Well, I mean, it does.
	I'm trying to give you a number.
	I probably make like an people are going to do the math.
	I make a lot more money per year by being married.
	It bumps me down significantly into another tax bracket.
	Make a lot of money.
	And so I guess you could do the math.
	You could average that yearly extra income that gets padded as a result of my marriage, single home, single household income, average that out.
	We're going to be married 50, 60 years until one of us dies.
	Okay, how much would I lose if we got divorced?
	You do that comparison.
	Divorce rate is 13%, but I'm probably smarter than most people, so maybe it's even lower than that.
	Alimony, 10%.
	If I'm at Vegas, I bet on getting married.
	I put my money on marriage.
	That's totally fine.
	And maybe we've done the calculus a little bit differently.
	And at the end of the day, for me, it's just not worth the risk.
	I don't need the state.
	I don't need the government involved with my love life.
	It's just if we were in traditional times, if we were in times where broadly speaking, society respected marriage, there's also no societal, what's the term?
	There's no shame to be divorced.
	So there's no social pressure for people to stay married, really.
	In fact, people are really quick to just be like, eh, just get divorced, you know, whatever.
	But the other, I mean, the other thing is just, and also with the court system, men are so disadvantaged in the family court system.
	There's bias against men in the family court system.
	And look, I've heard from countless men who have just been dragged.
	I don't know what's the saying, dragged across the coals.
	I don't know, but who have just been destroyed in marriage.
	And even if that's a minority of people that get married, I know we had some disagreements perhaps on the actual, I mean, I think 50% is the total number, but then yes, if you break it down, like first-time marriages, it's a bit lower.
	And then you made a same race thing, that's even lower.
	I'd have to look at that.
	But I'll take your word for it for the sake of the conversation.
	It's just even that smaller percentage chance, it's just not worth it.
	To you?
	Yes, to me.
	Okay.
	And look, I just, I'm not prepared to take on the financial risk of marriage.
	And again, I don't need the government involved in my thing.
	I don't want to be dragged through court and have to pay for her attorney and then fucking go in front of a judge and then fuck it.
	It's just not worth it.
	But I would like to move on a little bit, but let's come back to the marriage a little later on in the conversation.
	Yeah, no doubt.
	So, okay, let's get some super chats here.
	We have, oh man, the super chat's fucking brutal tonight.
	All right, ratings, the girl starting from Prink Dress 6775576.
	Yo, Puffy Vegas, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, we have, holy, bro, the fucking chat is roasting tonight.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Okay, I had one question.
	Let's see.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Did any of you girls want to weigh in on the marriage?
	I know we were talking there for a little bit, the marriage stuff.
	I think if you're going to be with someone forever, be with them forever.
	So get married.
	I just think that since you are choosing a long-term relationship rather than marriage, it allows for a bigger area for your wife to leave you or for you to leave your wife.
	I think that marriage adds security to a relationship.
	It's just, okay, like, I'm a high earner.
	So if I marry a woman who's not and is that what you want, though?
	Well, not necessarily because I don't really care about a woman's finances.
	But it is something I have to consider if I am potentially marrying a woman who doesn't make money that like, bro, I'm going to get fucked financially.
	So, yo, Alvin Panks is a little bit more.
	Oh, shit, I haven't seen him in a while.
	Stay safe, you need to get over the premise that marriage is commitment.
	It's not.
	It's financial security for the wife who stopped working to fulfill her domestic duties.
	Marriage is strictly wealth transfer.
	Let me tell you this.
	I think probably the key foundational axiomatic issue we have in our society in the Western world, America, Western Europe, is the absolute deterioration and degenerate rot that has taken place in the family unit.
	The traditional man-woman raising children, happy household, family unit is the key foundation to a healthy culture, to a healthy society.
	And every single problem you see right now, drug addiction, violent crime, mass shootings, all of this stuff, there's one thing in common.
	All of these people come from single-parent households.
	If you want to fix culture, if you want to fix our country, if you want to fix the Western world, you need to fix marriage.
	So if you want to talk about getting rid of no-fault divorce, I'm with you.
	But to act like a stay-at-home spouse or wife does nothing, and all of them are only doing it to steal money from men.
	Listen, as a man who's married, you are in the service of your wife.
	You have to be.
	And the woman who's engaged in that relationship, she is in the service of the husband.
	Only that type of symbiotic, mutualistic, mutual, like you, you need relationships like this to keep society operating.
	The second you have a breakdown of family units like this, you end up where we are right now.
	Well, I definitely agree with you that, yes, there's a breakdown of the family unit.
	I mean, just my pushback on that is you can have a family, two-parent household, but not be married.
	You can, yep.
	i think the odds of long-term success are lower perhaps perhaps but i don't think marriage is you can have a partner for the whole your whole life have a kid have the nuclear family just not be married let me ask you this um If no fault divorce was overturned tomorrow, would you be more eager to get married?
	Could I still potentially be on the hook for alimony?
	No, honestly, I'm kind of like, if you get rid of no-fault divorce, then like there's probably a risk that people are going to just lie about fault.
	Yeah, yeah, no, sure.
	So that's a concern.
	I believe it was like the 70s when no fault divorce was ushered in.
	That's when you saw the absolute explosion in divorce rates.
	Curiously, divorce rates are the lowest right now they've been in 50 years.
	Divorce rates are plummeting.
	Tied to our marriage rates being as low as they've ever been.
	But it is true.
	Divorce rates are the lowest they've been since the 1970s.
	Sure.
	Well, let's move on from marriage here.
	Let's spice it up with, we can come back to it, though.
	Should body count matter?
	Let's talk about that.
	Should body count matter?
	Let's go around the table, starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	For the guy or the girl?
	Here, let me ask a different question.
	Do you object to men caring about women's body count?
	I don't know.
	I don't think they should care.
	Yeah, no.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I mean, personally, if I don't want to say mine, I feel like a man shouldn't have to say his.
	Therefore, like, I care.
	And if he cares, he does too, you know?
	Wait, that doesn't parse.
	Well, Risa, your question for me, if you want me to.
	Do you object to men caring about body count?
	Let's say no, I don't object to it.
	Okay.
	But I mean, like, I wouldn't.
	I don't know how to explain.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just.
	So, for example, like, let's say your body count was 11.
	Yeah.
	And the guy was like, well, that's a bit high for me.
	He's not rude about it, but it's just, and obviously this conversation might play out more organically, but he took an issue with your high body count and perhaps he wasn't interested in dating you because you had a body count of 11, for example.
	Would you object to that or would you be like, hey, that's preference, whatever?
	Well, that's preference.
	I mean, I don't have that, so I don't know.
	Don't have what?
	That's not my body count, so I wouldn't have to.
	Well, I wasn't saying it was, but as an example.
	In a sense, if, say, he came up to me and he had 11 asked me the same question, like, I would give him the same respect that you would be giving me.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Which is what?
	I wouldn't care if he didn't care.
	If he cared, I care.
	But in personal preference, because I'd say I didn't want to share mine, it does matter to me personally.
	Body count does matter to you.
	Personally, yes.
	Okay, got it.
	So you wouldn't have an issue with a guy caring about your body count?
	No, I would not.
	Okay.
	I feel like everyone's entitled to their own opinions on this, but I don't feel like body count should matter because in turn, like, I wouldn't care about a guy's body count either.
	So say if I was dating a guy, right, and he was doing the same type of work as me, he was in porn, I wouldn't care what his body count was.
	So I don't feel like he should care about mine.
	But that's not very traditional.
	I don't think body count should matter at all, but someone in the chat made a really good point earlier and they said, you're a high roller, but you don't want to pay the bill.
	And I think that's funny.
	Wait, what?
	Like, you called yourself a high roller earlier, a top earner, or whatever.
	I didn't call myself a high roller.
	You said something about yourself making money, and then they said that, but he doesn't want to pay the bill.
	And I thought that was a funny point.
	Are you redirecting the conversation here?
	Kind of.
	I just never got a chance to put that point in earlier.
	Why is it funny?
	Because like, why are you talking about how much money you make if you don't want to pay the bill?
	I wasn't bragging.
	were talking about marriage and i said because i'm a high earner i have certain concerns when it comes That's funny.
	Why is that funny?
	Because you're like someone that feels the need to call himself a high earner but doesn't want to pay.
	I didn't feel the need.
	We were having a conversation about marriage.
	I always think it's funny.
	I wasn't like bragging.
	Oh, I'm a fucking high earner.
	Like, I'm not bragging.
	It was just in the context of a conversation about marriage.
	And I was making my argument that because I do make a decent amount of money, I have greater risk than a guy who's making an average salary.
	You and your money.
	Also, his.
	What do you mean, you and my money?
	You think I'm like, I got a big ego about money.
	I really don't.
	I wear fucking 20-year-olds.
	You just don't want to pay the bill.
	You do kind of have a weird thing around money and like women and stuff and how much you make.
	Yeah, for sure.
	There's some like stuff going on 100%.
	What do you mean there's stuff going on?
	Like with not wanting to pay the bill and like worrying about how much money you're making.
	Why don't you want to pay the bill?
	Maybe there's something going on with you.
	You don't want to pay the bill.
	Are you a feminist?
	Do you believe in gender equality?
	I'm asking you a question.
	Anyways, you're a high earner, but you don't pay the bill.
	See, it's so funny.
	Like, it's not a question of the money necessarily.
	It's not about me not being able to afford it.
	That's not the issue.
	I just don't want to waste my money on someone who doesn't deserve it.
	I actually wrote a song about it.
	Wrote a song about what?
	He's a high earner, but he doesn't pay the bill.
	Did you do like cocaine in the bathroom or something?
	No.
	No.
	That was a lovely song.
	Well done.
	Thank you.
	You should try out for American Idol.
	Thank you.
	That's well.
	Look, look, when it comes to paying the bill, we as men, we don't know you.
	We don't know if you're worth it yet.
	So we're not going to pay to find out.
	I don't get this pushback against equally investing into the start of a relationship.
	I bet most of you would describe yourselves as feminists.
	I bet most of you would say you believe in gender equality, equality between the sexes.
	But it's funny, when that check comes, y'all are really quiet about being feminists and believing in equality.
	My gender equality goes straight out the door when it's time to take the trash out.
	I believe that.
	I stand by that.
	Yeah, I don't consider myself a feminist.
	I don't either.
	But back in the day, they used to provide for women because they worshipped women, not because.
	Yeah, like if I'm going to be a feminist and think that woman should be worshipped, then I think the man should pay.
	Back in ancient times, they used to worship women.
	I don't think it's because they worshipped women.
	It's because women provided something very unique solely and exclusively to their husband that is not really happening today.
	For instance, their body.
	What?
	Oh.
	Women are still the bearers of life.
	Yeah, but a woman's body is supposed to be a temple for the man.
	Okay.
	So much disagreeance.
	I think it is entirely reasonable to take Brian has, where he doesn't want to invest money into a woman that he has no idea what her motives or intentions are.
	But that's a bad way to go into something.
	Being like suspicious of someone like that.
	Aren't women suspicious of men?
	Yeah, I think it's a good idea.
	When they go on first dates?
	I'm not going into it being like suspicious, no.
	I would be suspicious.
	Most women are like, let me ask, if a guy invited you over to his house before meeting him, like out in public on the first date, would you do it?
	Or would you prefer to meet him in public first?
	I would prefer to meet him public.
	Why is that?
	What are you suspicious of?
	Or is it just being...
	No, I just wouldn't want to give him any ideas because if you go over to a guy's place like that, they're going to assume you want to have sex with him.
	Could it also be a safety thing?
	You'd rather meet in public for safety reasons?
	No, I just honestly don't want to give someone the idea that I want to fuck them if I don't.
	So you're not even thinking about the fact that he could literally do something.
	Kill you?
	Murder?
	No, not really.
	Okay.
	There are, listen.
	I'm more trusting in men than that.
	There are crazy people.
	This is not a men or women thing.
	There are guys out there that want to protect and provide for women.
	You're totally right.
	In fact, most men are, but there were really...
	I don't want to hurt one.
	There are really bad guys.
	When my daughter's 18, I tell her, listen, like, you need to know someone before you are in a private place with them.
	That's like basic safety 101.
	I'll buy her a gun and give her a can of bear maze.
	You need to take care of yourself.
	You need to be careful.
	There are just twisted psychos out there.
	It's true.
	There are predators out there.
	That's just a safety thing.
	Yeah, but I wouldn't go to someone's house just to, you know, like if I didn't know them first.
	That's good.
	That's smart.
	That's smart.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	So wait, what was your thing?
	We're working around.
	Like, it's just so fun.
	Like, I don't get this pushback.
	Like, I believe in egalitarianism.
	I believe in equality.
	Like, I know you guys didn't want to take the, what's it called? The title of feminist.
	But do you guys all believe in equality?
	There's no such thing as equality.
	We're made differently.
	Our brains think differently.
	Our bodies work differently.
	There's no equal, but there's fair as we can get, but there's no like really equal.
	It's like comparing apples to oranges.
	I don't know.
	I think that there's personally like things that, things that women can do that men can't do and things that men can do that women can't do.
	And I say that in the sense of even like a woman having a baby and a man getting her pregnant.
	Okay, so do you let your man lead into the relationship?
	Do you submit to him?
	I did.
	I do.
	I do.
	Naturally, I do.
	And I wish I didn't.
	But, yeah.
	So let me ask you guys a question.
	In your relationships with men, would you consider your, let's say, long-term partner, is he the head of the household?
	Does he have final say?
	Yeah, definitely.
	Yeah, I trust him.
	If he's adamant about something and is like, this is what it is, then yeah.
	Fair enough.
	All right, maybe you're right.
	It depends on the point, though, because if I'm feeling really passionate about it, I won't let him get his way.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Would you let him tell you to stop doing sex work?
	He puts his foot down and says, no more sex work.
	No.
	Okay, so then he's not.
	I'm not feeling really passionate about the head of the head.
	So then he's not the head of the household, is he?
	He's not the head of the household.
	I just don't think he would ask me to do that.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The head of the household doesn't want me to quit sex work.
	He loves that I do sex work.
	What if everything else about him is perfect?
	So your conceptual head of the household man just is hard to wrap your head around.
	I mean, I've found guys like that that don't care about what I do.
	I mean, not everyone cares so much.
	If he's a millionaire, then maybe I'd consider it.
	Usually they're also in like an entertainment industry of some kind.
	You're totally okay with this conceptual dominant head of the household man as long as he's okay with you doing everything that you do whenever you want to do it and there's no give at all.
	Well you said sex work.
	No, it's not like that.
	There's obviously like you don't do whatever you want whenever you want.
	That's not how a relationship works.
	They're cool with certain things and there's some things they're not cool with.
	That's it.
	As far as look the whole paying for the date thing.
	So women want men to do all this traditional stuff.
	Opening the door, paying for the date, gifts, flowers, providing.
	In my view, these are reserved for women who are worthy of them.
	Just like women are not obliged to sleep with you on the first date, so too are men not obliged to provide for you on the first date.
	You make a good point.
	Yeah.
	I feel like, you know, both stances could be right.
	Like men who are comfortable paying and men who are not, you know?
	It's up to your discretion what you want to do with your money.
	If you don't want to pay on the first date, then that's fine.
	then you're not going to go out.
	But, okay, for a lot of women, it's like you want a guy to, well, this falls into a few different categories, but just like we as men have to prove ourselves to you before you sleep with us, I'm of the opinion, and I'm instructing men to do this, you should be screening women just as hardcore as they're screening you.
	So I think you should wait to provide, men should wait to provide until you've proved yourselves to us.
	You don't get the benefit of my provisioning until I know you are only talking to me.
	Because like I said earlier, one of the main reasons I don't want to pay for a girl on a first date is these girls are dating multiple dudes.
	They're sleeping with multiple dudes.
	You don't get my provisioning until I know you are only talking to me.
	I think that's fair.
	How do you know they're sleeping with other dudes, though?
	You have to make that assumption in 2023.
	That's how people move.
	But like, some of them really are not.
	Like, dead ass.
	Like, I don't know.
	No, they are.
	That's just how you're doing.
	You never know.
	So if they're not, then you still do the vetting process, maybe two or three dates, and you determine they're not, and then you feel comfortable, and then you move on in the relationship as normal.
	Yeah.
	So are you saying that they go out just to eat and they don't actually like you?
	What do you mean?
	Like, like you're saying, like, you're worried that someone's just going to, like, you don't want to give your provisioning and providing for until you know that she's like just with you, right?
	But you're saying like you're worried that someone who would go out with you, that they don't actually like you, they just want the meal.
	A lot of girls do that.
	Some girls do that.
	Some girls do that.
	Some of the girls do that.
	Look, I know how people move.
	People have like five dates in a week with different dudes.
	Even average chicks can fucking get.
	Did you remember that the thing that he pulled up?
	She literally said that she went on six dates a week just to pay for groceries.
	Thank you for bringing that up.
	Yeah, but some guys are okay with like paying for dates, you know, but he's not personally.
	So it's like, I would think that the girls that would date you would know like, oh, he's not cool with paying for dates.
	So like, I'm not going to do that with him, you know?
	He's not going to pay for dates on the first date.
	He doesn't want to waste his money.
	Like, Amanda.
	It's not about the money.
	It's not about the money.
	10 bucks, I don't, 10 bucks, 20 bucks, I don't care.
	It's about principle.
	Go ahead.
	It's about deserving.
	I would just think girls that are want like free dates and like they would just do that with guys that are cool with stuff like that.
	Yeah, but a lot of them know that.
	Most girls are assumed that the guy's gonna pay.
	Because that's how it is for most, the most part.
	Look, a lot of women are just so accustomed to men doing all this extra shit, moving mountains just for a chance at you.
	Because look, there's no shortage of simps.
	That's your clientele.
	So look, I mean, also, I want to point out one thing.
	A woman who requires romance just really doesn't like you that much.
	Because she never required that like really hot dude, that really exciting dude to be romantic.
	That's right.
	To pay for anything.
	Yeah.
	Girls.
	So like, brother.
	Like, when you're really into a guy, you'll just fuck him because he's so hot kind of thing, right?
	Yeah, girls.
	He doesn't do anything for you at all.
	I've definitely been there.
	For sure.
	Yeah, girls, like the super hot guy, they don't need him to pay because they're happy to get with him.
	But like the guy that they think they're settling for, even though most of these guys are actually on their level, excuse me, because a lot of women view themselves as more attractive than they actually are.
	They have an over-inflated sense of self.
	They have a big ego.
	They have fucking 100 simps in their DMs.
	They download Tinder.
	There's a thousand.
	Some girl.
	The super hypers.
	He might not be paying for all the girls that are just fucking him just to do it, but he is paying for some girl out there.
	I guess.
	For sure.
	So you expect men to pay.
	No, it's not black or white thinking with me, okay?
	It's based on the situation.
	Well, earlier you said it was disgusting.
	No, I said I was turned off.
	I changed my wording.
	Remember?
	I said saying disgusted was too harsh and that I wish that I would have said, you know, I retracted the statement and said, you know.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay, a lot of women, I think a couple of you, you guys.
	The guys that I want to fuck are guys that are going to pay on the first date.
	It's like not, it's my preference.
	Sue me.
	Hey, look, you're entitled to have your preference.
	I guess my issue is, is that you expect men to pay, yet you do sex work.
	My issue is I don't give a fuck.
	Like I can do sex work and I can expect men to pay.
	I'm still a human being.
	Wait, why does that have preferences?
	This is so degrading.
	It's not degrading.
	Your problem is that I do sex work and that's not degrading.
	Wait, I just don't get it.
	Why do you say that?
	Hold on.
	Just a point of clarification.
	I said that your problem is that you expect men to pay, yet you do sex work.
	What I'm trying to get at, what I'm trying to get at is, is you have a rather traditional stance on who should pay, yet you are quite non-traditional.
	Okay, and my problem is that you expect girls to go halves on the first date and you're not even that attractive.
	Okay, add hominin.
	I don't know what that means.
	All right, bro.
	Wait, so I just want to clarify, you're saying because she does.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	So you've just attacked my physical appearance.
	Well, you attacked my career.
	I didn't attack you.
	Your problem with me having a preference because of my job.
	Yeah, because you have a rather traditional stance on who should pay, yet you are quite non-traditional.
	I didn't ad hominin attack your physical appearance.
	What does ad hominem mean?
	Ad hominin.
	It's like a personal attack.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	So what you're saying is if I was more physically attractive, then I could get away with demanding equality.
	that's what you're saying isn't it um guys that i think you think i'm wrong because of my physical appearance to want to split the bill I think she was saying that.
	Or do you want to walk back what you just said?
	Do you want to let her answer?
	No, no, no.
	The words came out of your mouth.
	She's not going to do that.
	Yeah, but my mouth goes on her pussy, so she knows what I'm thinking.
	I think she was saying that it was a low blow to talk bad about her career, so she did a low blow back.
	Exactly.
	It's really not, though.
	It's totally different.
	So, I'm going to kindly ask you to leave.
	All right, I have to take her with me.
	That's fine.
	All right, well.
	Just be prepared, Eric.
	Okay, see ya.
	Thanks for having us.
	You can't even like 10 minutes, bro.
	Okay.
	Do you think she tried to do it the first time?
	Like an hour and a half.
	People were saying it was intentional.
	Do you think she did?
	I don't know.
	I looked up and I was like, oh.
	i i didn't see it until i read the chat that is such a fucked up thing to do So fucked up for Brian, yeah.
	How did I miss that?
	He could lose his job.
	So she was mad about him saying that she shouldn't have to, that she should go half on the first date because it should sex work right, basically.
	And then she said something about his looks.
	And then she said that he's not good enough.
	Looking not to pay basically.
	saw it pop up there for a second so what a terrible person can we all Can we all agree here?
	What a terrible person.
	That's terrible to do.
	That's terrible to do.
	That was disrespectful.
	That was disrespectful.
	Did she just walk away?
	She flashed?
	Some people definitely saying I meant to take it somehow.
	Yeah, she did.
	I literally walked out of here.
	No, she literally pulled him down.
	Did you see the titties?
	She got kicked out and you inked your shirt down.
	Actually, he's walking out of here.
	Yeah, I miss that.
	I think we were not seeing that at all.
	Yeah.
	It was probably there for like 0.30.
	We can end it and restart the stream.
	But that's a whole nother fucking.
	That sucks.
	Half.
	Fuck.
	Do you have just have mods?
	Delete clips.
	Just spam, delete clips.
	I don't know if my mods on.
	Well, I have Twitch and I have YouTube.
	I don't know if I can do it on fucking Twitch, bro.
	I don't know if he's there.
	Bro.
	I think you should.
	Oh my God, bro, that's so fucking like...
	So fucking childish.
	She's like fucking with my business there, bro.
	Bro, delete this shit.
	Oh, my God, bro.
	I kicked her.
	Bro.
	I don't know what to do, guys.
	It showed.
	I think we have to end it and maybe we have to restart.
	I don't fucking know, bro.
	Millisecond, bro.
	Fuck.
	Nick, can you find them?
	Can you find it?
	Yeah, it's just for a second.
	Bro, yo, if anybody watching knows her, I'm gonna actually sue her because that was malicious.
	That was malicious, and she's intentionally interrupting my business.
	Malicious, tortious interference.
	So, fuck it, bro.
	We're gonna fucking sue her.
	It's one thing if you have a nip slip, but to intentionally do that, to try to fuck with someone's business, yeah.
	Guys, if anybody knows her, get me her full legit name, because we're gonna fucking sue her, bro.
	All right, um, can I take a picture with the doll?
	I don't know how to do it.
	When the stream ends, yeah.
	When it's too.
	Yeah, yeah, let's take a picture of the doll.
	Yeah, wait till the stream ends, and then you guys are good.
	I wait on YouTube.
	I like your fruity.
	I'm gonna resource.
	Do you ever get that you look like Paris?
	Yeah, I can tell.
	I don't try to.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I know, but literally, my first thing when I saw you was, oh my god, she looks like Paris.
	Dude, we were at dinner the other day, and some guy literally goes, You look like Parisylton.
	I like thought you were her.
	She is not exactly representing her side very well.
	That's the unfortunate thing.
	That's the worst thing about it.
	Yeah.
	That's so fun.
	A separate after-show?
	It's just like.
	We don't have to do the after-show.
	It's fine.
	Okay.
	Um, slowing down.
	We gotta take care of the clips.
	Okay, let's fucking crazy.
	Bitches, be bitches.
	Listen, I'll tell you what.
	You can delete the VOD.
	You delete the clips.
	Someone's already made a streamable, though.
	Like, someone's already got that.
	It's done.
	It's done.
	What's that?
	You can delete all the clips.
	You can delete the VOD.
	Someone's already got that.
	Yeah.
	They've already reported it.
	Okay.
	End the stream.
	All right, guys, we got to end the stream.
	We might, if you guys wait a little bit, we might start up an after-show.
	I don't know.
	Sorry, guys.
	That's abhorrent.
	Like.
	Brew, I fucking had a feeling she was going to do some shit like that, bro.
	Like.
	Did it show on there?
	Yeah, it did.
	It did.
	Eric, can you end the stream?
	All right, guys, we're going to – oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	We're going to start another stream.
	We're probably going to lose half our viewership, but there was some other shit I still wanted to talk about, but it is what it is.
	All right.
	If you guys just chill around on the channel, it should pop back up in, I don't know, a little bit.
	But yo, nobody should ever have that fucking chick on any stream.
	Like, okay, okay, whatever.
	All right, guys, just stick around on the channel.
	We'll redo a stream.

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