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March 16, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #63

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	Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast.
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	We are coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California every Sunday and Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	I am your host, Brian Atlas.
	I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
	She's somewhere back.
	Yeah, there she is.
	She's a bit shy.
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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	My name's Alexa.
	I'm 27.
	I'm a noob Twitch streamer.
	And then primarily I am a manager for models and a creative director at an OnlyFans agency called Sheik.
	That's me.
	My name is Karina.
	I am, we have to say our age.
	Yep.
	26.
	And I am a producer of content and I'm a writer.
	What was the hesitation with the age there?
	Usually you don't ask a woman her age.
	What kind of content do you do?
	I produce skits, vlogs.
	OnlyFans?
	No.
	No OnlyFans?
	No, OnlyFans.
	So normally you don't ask a woman her age.
	What do you mean?
	I've heard that term for like old women.
	For old women?
	I say old women because age is but a number and it's like, why do we have to, why do we have to say that?
	I think judgment comes when you give a certain age.
	Like if I said I was 21, I might not get as much respect.
	If I said I'm 32.
	I don't know about that one.
	I suspect you might get more respect.
	It depends on the person, like honestly.
	Why does it matter?
	There are some people that really have mommy issues, so they prefer older women.
	Did I say that out loud?
	Yes, you can say that out loud.
	Wait, so you normally don't ask a woman her age?
	Yeah, that's not like.
	That's not like the first and foremost question.
	Like I get you asking for my username or my at, but like my age.
	Interesting.
	What?
	That seems like a basic demographic question to ask somebody.
	I guess.
	Do you want to know like my ethnicity and like what my sexual preference is too?
	I might get, I certainly might.
	What is your ethnicity while we're at it?
	I'm from Russia, so I'm Caucasian basically.
	Yeah.
	Aren't Russians or from the Caucasus Mountains, yeah.
	I'm from Uzbekistan too, so that's another free ball, but yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Me?
	Oh, I'm half.
	Into the mic.
	No, Your name, age, occupation.
	Into the mic, please.
	My name is Susan.
	I am a registered nurse, and I do some content online.
	I just started with a new agency.
	Oh, I'm 21 years old.
	No, you're not.
	Okay, Brian.
	I'm 35.
	Scorpio.
	What else?
	So you said you do content.
	What kind of contents do you do?
	I do content.
	I don't do nudity.
	So you have an OnlyFans, though.
	I do.
	I do, but I just signed with a new agency.
	Okay.
	Siren agency.
	And hopefully I can get some more stuff going.
	And yeah, but I have a day job, too.
	You're a nurse?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Like pediatric, NICU?
	Surgeries.
	Surgery, okay.
	What about you?
	I'm Ella.
	I'm 18.
	I go to UCSB and I'm a biochem major.
	Okay, rock and roll.
	What about you?
	My name is Reese.
	I'm 18 years old, and I'm a communications major at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	I'm Kayla, aka Anola Blaise.
	I am 25, and I do OnlyFans.
	Can I have you just tilt the microphone down towards you just to add?
	That goes.
	Perfect.
	Okay, you do OnlyFans?
	Yes.
	How long have you been doing that?
	Nine months, I think.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Lindsay.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I go to Santa Barbara City College and I'm an entrepreneurship major.
	My name's Haley.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I go to San Diego Myrmark Community College, majoring in engineering with emphasis in physics, and I work for the family business.
	My name is Rico.
	I am 34 years old.
	I am a poker player, Uber driver, fitness model, actor, comedian.
	I do it all.
	All-around great guy.
	All around, great guy.
	All-around, great guy.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	All right, so thank you for having me on.
	Thank you for coming.
	So everyone's Instagrams are in the description, guys.
	Show them some love, give them a follow.
	If you're a short girl, my DMs are open.
	Okay, so we're going to go around the table once more.
	Current relationship status, single, friends with benefits, talking stage, situation shifts, relationship.
	Are you any of these?
	And your longest relationship, go ahead.
	So right now, kind of like talking situationship.
	My longest relationship was five years from 19 to 24.
	And then just a little bit of situationships after that, like during COVID Bay and all that.
	And, you know.
	How it goes?
	I'm in a really serious situationship right now.
	It's been going for like two years.
	So I'm in love, but I'm also not really in a relationship until I'm married.
	So yeah.
	Wait, sorry, could you just repeat which one you were?
	My relationship.
	Yeah, single, right?
	Yeah, like situationship, but like talking, like, yeah, same person, just one person.
	How long has that been going on?
	I've known him for two years.
	Two years, gotcha.
	And you're in a two-year situationship, too.
	It's more serious than hers.
	My super personal, yeah.
	Oh, you guys know each other?
	Yeah, we're just please.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	Longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	Have you ever been married?
	No.
	Any kids?
	No.
	I have a dog.
	A dog?
	Okay, that's...
	My kid.
	That's yours.
	That's your child.
	That's my baby.
	That's your baby.
	There you go.
	I'm single.
	Longest relationship is non-existent.
	One question on that.
	So, have you ever, you've never had a relationship?
	No.
	Okay.
	What is the longest period of time that you've talked to somebody?
	I'd say honestly, probably like a week.
	One week.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm going to come back to the one week thing.
	I'm going to let everyone get through this really quick first, though.
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently single, but the longest relationship I've ever been in lasted a year.
	When did that end?
	It was all throughout my junior year of high school.
	Okay, so that was two years ago?
	Yeah, it was a while ago.
	Gotcha.
	Besides that, let's say in college, what's the longest period of time you've been seeing a guy?
	Because you said you're a freshman at UCSB.
	Yeah, I'm a freshman.
	I was actually in a relationship about two months ago.
	I was dating that guy for about six months, but long distance is really difficult.
	Didn't work out.
	Oh, it was long distance?
	Yeah, we were long distance.
	And it ended two months ago?
	Yeah, January.
	Okay.
	Where was he?
	Back at home, Bay Area.
	Bay Area.
	Okay.
	Why did he dump you?
	I actually ended things with him.
	Why is that?
	I just wasn't getting enough out of the relationship.
	He would call me maybe once a week.
	Like, very little communication.
	It just, like, you know, you want more out of a relationship.
	You mentioned he would call you once a week.
	Right, he would call me maybe once a week, and then I would be trying to call him multiple times a week, and he would pick up maybe 50% of the time.
	Okay, so you were at least, you were trying.
	Oh, no, I was absolutely putting in effort, but then it got to a point where, you know, it's really exhausting to be the one carrying the relationship on your back.
	So yeah, I got tired.
	Okay.
	Anola, what about you?
	I am single.
	I'm also a mom.
	My longest relationship, I would say I never really had a real boyfriend or real relationship, but the longest time ever lasted was probably three years, I think.
	What about the relationship with the father of your son?
	Or is it sorry?
	It's a girl.
	Or your kid.
	Do you know who the father is?
	I know the followers, but I wouldn't consider it a relationship because I just think I was like really brainwashed and I got into it for wrong reasons and it just led were you in a cult?
	No.
	Brainwashed?
	Like a sex cult?
	No, it was like my pimp.
	He was your pimp?
	Yeah.
	Your pimp.
	Huh?
	Your pimp?
	I heard it right.
	Yes, oh, good times.
	Pimping ain't easy.
	Pimping ain't easy.
	Okay, so you then you previously did proper sex work then?
	Prostitution.
	Correct.
	Okay.
	How long were you doing that for?
	I started doing that probably 18.
	18 years old?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And are you still doing that kind of sex work?
	Look, just a little closer to Mike.
	Very seldom.
	Very seldom.
	Okay.
	But occasionally.
	Occasionally.
	And then you're also, you said you do OnlyFans too, correct?
	Yep.
	Do you do traditional corn?
	I have.
	I don't do that.
	Not anymore.
	But you do have OnlyFans.
	Correct.
	Okay, so you're single, and you said you've never really been in a relationship?
	No.
	Okay.
	I've wanted to.
	What is the longest period of time that you've seen a guy?
	Well, I suppose you're pimp, right?
	Correct, yeah.
	I mean, I was really in love with somebody, which is who took my virginity.
	I was in love with him since like, I'm going to say like eight to probably eighteen.
	And yep, just never seriously.
	Wait, you said, wait, eight to you said eight to eighteen.
	Like I was in love with somebody, like I pursued him that long.
	Eight?
	Eight, eight years old.
	How old was he?
	Sheesh.
	How old was he?
	Three years older than me.
	Three years older.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, nothing crazy.
	Yeah, as long as it wasn't like a grooming experience or anything like that.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Okay, cool.
	Welcome to Soft White Underbelly.
	I'm your host.
	What's his name, Mark, or something?
	Have you been on Soft White Underbelly?
	No, this is my first podcast.
	Really?
	Yes.
	You should go on Soft White Underbelly.
	I want to go on a lot of podcasts, obviously.
	Okay.
	Well, because he brings on a lot of people with interesting paths, pasts.
	So I'll try to get you connected with him if that's something that might interest you.
	What about you?
	I'm currently single and I've never been in a committed relationship.
	Never been.
	What situationship?
	Is there a guy you're talking to right now?
	No one seriously.
	Since you've been on the show before, have there been any suitors who have DM'd you?
	Yes, I got many very nice messages.
	Really?
	Yeah, I got a very, like, overwhelmingly nice, and they weren't all just hitting on me.
	Really?
	Okay, that's good to hear.
	A couple mean ones, though?
	There were a handful of mean ones, but they were like unfounded.
	It was kind of random.
	Unfounded.
	Good word.
	So how many suitors DM'd you?
	100.
	100?
	Off that one show?
	Yeah.
	Any sugar daddy offers?
	No sugar daddy offers.
	Oh, okay.
	Good times.
	So nobody really you're talking to, though.
	I have a friend who's connected me with a couple of friends that she knows that she kind of wants to set me up with, but it's long distance and I'm not interested in starting something short distance.
	Okay.
	And have any of the guys who DM'd you, have they offered to fly you out?
	To like Miami or LA or any shit like that?
	Well, I wouldn't fly to LA.
	But have you had the offers?
	Well, Miami or Vegas.
	How about that?
	I had one guy tell me to come to Toronto and then another guy told me to come to Nashville.
	But they didn't offer to buy my ticket.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	My longest relationship, I'm in a relationship right now.
	It's my only boyfriend I've ever had.
	We've been dating for four years.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	So I lost my virginity at 13 and I've pretty much had a girlfriend ever since then.
	Not one girlfriend, multiple girlfriends.
	I've always had a girlfriend.
	I've never not had a girlfriend.
	So.
	13?
	Yeah.
	That's young.
	That's great.
	I hit a growth spurt from eighth grade to ninth grade.
	How tall are you, by the way?
	Six four.
	Six four.
	You're a Chad.
	I am.
	You're a Chad.
	Yeah, I get that a lot.
	But yeah, man, life's good in the dating world.
	But I mean, no, it still sucks.
	It still sucks.
	Women are awful sometimes.
	Most of the time.
	Most of the time.
	But I love them, so whatever.
	Okay.
	So are you currently in a relationship?
	Always.
	How many girls are you seeing right now?
	Oh.
	Like two?
	Like, two and a half.
	Two and a half.
	Yeah, two and a half.
	So one is oral.
	All right.
	Like one is like.
	She hasn't been, what's the word?
	Like.
	She's promoting.
	She hasn't been promoted.
	Not promoted.
	Yeah, she hasn't been promoted to.
	She hasn't been promoted to like, you know, official girlfriend.
	She's not under my protection, if you will.
	She's auditioning.
	Yeah, yeah, she's still.
	No, she's still on probation.
	She's still on probation.
	She's always.
	She was on probation.
	Probation period.
	Probation period.
	How long is it?
	How long is the probationary period?
	Ooh, that's tough.
	I would say probation lasts.
	I don't know, man.
	I run a tight ship.
	You got to get it.
	You got like three, four months to not fuck up.
	And then it's over.
	So have you always dated multiple women?
	Or would you say you've had periods of monogamy?
	Well, I tried it when I was like 21, but I was like, I almost said the hard word.
	This is ridiculous.
	Like, I just, no, look, I got all this testosterone.
	Like, why would I do it?
	Like, no guy anywhere works 40, 50, 60 hours a week to be like, oh, I just want to smash one girl forever.
	Like, I want her to come tell me to take out the trash.
	Like, no, that's stupid.
	So, I'm not doing that.
	No, you're supposed to do that by yourself.
	What, take out the trash?
	Yeah, she shouldn't ask you to take out the trash.
	She should do it, right?
	No, men should do it.
	Actually, I had an ex of mine tell me.
	So you would be on probation.
	You're on probation.
	Yeah, you would say.
	I used to take out the trash.
	I used to take out the trash.
	And my ex told me that whenever he had somebody do that, like a woman do that, he didn't love her anymore.
	He like told me that.
	Well, that guy was weird.
	You're dating a weirdo.
	This is why I'm single.
	I can't.
	I'm mean to guys, unfortunately.
	You're mean to guys?
	Sometimes.
	It depends on my mood.
	Explain that.
	How are you mean to men?
	Well, the thing is, you know, I mean, I'm not in my 20s anymore, so I've had experiences with different types of dating, even though I've always been in relationships.
	And then, you know, it's like I was dating in Los Angeles.
	So I've seen a good amount of different species, okay, of species.
	Species.
	I think that's illegal.
	So you think you could be mean?
	It might be illegal.
	No, I mean, I know.
	I'm just not, I'm not mean like, hey, F off or anything like that.
	It's just I don't have patience.
	Oh.
	I don't have patience.
	You got speaking to the mic.
	Patience.
	Thank you for dropping your octaves if you there.
	Okay.
	So you don't have patience for men?
	I don't have patience for boys.
	Boys, correct.
	Thank you.
	So I have a theory that women that have never played organized sports, either gaming, we'll say banned, their dad wasn't in their life.
	Oh, sorry, actually. that they make horrible girlfriends.
	That weren't in organized sports.
	Yeah, they have to be in organized sports.
	If their dad wasn't around, maybe banned, like a discipline of some sort.
	I'm just interested to know, what's the connection between having a dad and organized sports?
	I'm not even disagreeing with discussion.
	No, it's because of being in a relationship, you have to have patience and discipline.
	So if your dad wasn't around to discipline you, that's that.
	If you've never been in organized sports or a team, like that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, you don't have patience.
	Are you saying that moms are worse disciplinarians than dads?
	Like, is that your point?
	You think so?
	I know so.
	But women are the people that are actually rearing the children and have them majority of the time.
	I do think dads play a very important role, but I don't think that's a good idea.
	As disciplinarians.
	True, but they do more than that.
	Dads are also supposed to show their daughters how they're supposed to be loved and treated and to like set their boundaries and all that kind of stuff as well.
	So I do agree with you that like a strong, both paternal and maternal figure are important in self-development.
	But as far as like moms not being capable, my mom whooped my ass.
	So like she said.
	My dad never spanked me ever.
	I was like baby girl.
	I didn't say they weren't capable.
	You said they're worse at it.
	But it's like my dad literally like would never ever spank me and my mom, and I'm thankful for her.
	So why do you equate discipline to like violence and spankings?
	It's not necessarily violence.
	We could go into the whole like the whole debate of whether it's like okay to like spank your kids and whatnot, but that's kind of a whole different topic.
	Discipline is just rules.
	Yeah, but obviously I'm using like spanking as a representation for discipline, not necessarily saying that's only the way to discipline your children.
	I also think boys are more likely to be coddled by their moms and like our mothers like will discipline us harder than they would their sons.
	Which is why it's also important for a man to have or a male to have like a father in his life.
	But overall I agree with you.
	But I get the connection with team sports being like a team player.
	But I guess my question is if you are asking these things of your women that are on probation, what do you provide to them in return as part of being captain of the team if you're being the leader?
	What do I provide?
	Yeah.
	He's a 6'4 chap.
	Looks fade.
	People get hunches in their back.
	Black don't crack.
	Right?
	It does not crack.
	It's not crack.
	No crack.
	Zero crack.
	What they get, they get to be with me.
	I mean, you get protection.
	What do you offer?
	Safety for one.
	I think that is one thing that is very undervalued in relationships is the safety you get.
	You essentially have a bodyguard when you go out into the world.
	I mean, sorry.
	No, no, go ahead.
	I don't completely agree with that because like.
	Well, it depends on who you date.
	Yeah, it depends on the person.
	Like, it's not every guy who's going to protect you that you're going to be with.
	And then you shouldn't be with that man if he can't protect you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And also, before you move, we move on to the subject.
	My dad passed away when I was 11, and I've never participated in any school sports or anything like that.
	No, he didn't say that there was a correlation between having a father and participation in school sports.
	No, I know.
	He said you were just listing.
	He's listing things, but I'm saying, like, I don't meet both of those criteria.
	Oh, I see.
	I see what you're saying.
	Let me just do a couple things here.
	Guys, just since we shifted it, I just want to do a reminder on the super chats and donations.
	We've boosted the read trigger to 100.
	So read answered the trigger to 100.
	TTS is now set to 200.
	I just want a smooth show.
	Last show is just a bit overwhelming with all the soup chats, so I might lower it again.
	I just, as you guys are kind of coming into the stream, I just want to let you guys know.
	So I just want to also, but with that, I will be able to get to the read ones faster.
	So Dave On Jackson, thank you for the 100, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Stop being an asshole and answer the questions asked to you.
	You're not cool or clever or fighting for women's rights.
	You're just being a dickhead.
	Who is that directed to?
	To me?
	Who do you think that's directed to?
	I don't even know.
	I don't know.
	I think it's related to the age thing.
	Probably you.
	Wait, what?
	Omi?
	Yeah.
	I don't fight for women's rights.
	I only fight for women's wrongs.
	That's all I'm here for to be proud of.
	What are women's wrongs?
	Anything wrong.
	I do not fight for equality.
	I believe that it was so much better in the 70s when men went to war and when women just like sat in the house and got poems sent to them.
	I'm not sure if you're being facetious or if you're not.
	I am a little bit.
	A little bit facetious.
	A little bit.
	Okay.
	A little satirical.
	All right.
	That's wonderful.
	All right.
	Davon Jackson, thank you for the $100 soup chat.
	Stop staring at the chat.
	You look ridiculous.
	Pay attention to the conversation.
	Yo, Dayvon, thank you so much for the support, man.
	I want to give a big shout out and a heartfelt thank you to Dayvon, who's been one of our long-term supporters for months now before we even really started picking up steam.
	So Dayvon, thank you for your continued support week after week, month after month.
	I really appreciate you constantly supporting and being a patron of the show.
	Thank you, man.
	Okay.
	And we can, oh yeah, pull that one up while we have it.
	Yo, Scott Aragon, thank you for the 100, man.
	85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes.
	Fathers keep their sons out of prisons and daughters off the stripper pole.
	Scott, that is profound and true.
	Correlation.
	Correlation does not imply causation.
	So first of all, show me the studies and then show me how they gather them.
	I mean, it's the majority of men in prisons were raised in single mother households.
	That's negating all the other environmental factors.
	Sure, there's other factors.
	It's not a guarantee if you're raised by a single mother that you're going to become a criminal.
	I see that it's more likely if you use that statistic to kind of boost your argument, but that statistic in and of itself isn't a good argument.
	What do you mean?
	It's not a strong argument.
	It's one facet to a very complicated social life.
	Well, actually, one of the most, the strongest predictors of criminality, aside from socioeconomics, is growing up in a one-parent, or it's not even necessarily one-parent household.
	It's growing up without a father.
	It's a major predictor.
	It can, like, there are indicators, and you can pull out these data points, of course.
	Like, you can say, like, you know, if you wear a bra to bed, if 51% of women that wear a broad bed get breast cancer, you can say wearing a broad bed causes breast cancer.
	But you're not, like, looking at, okay, what's the air quality like in that area?
	Why were those people placed in that area?
	What kind of like policing is around that area that causes them to stay in that area more?
	I think it causes breast cancer, though.
	I think they're not.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Yeah, not what I'm saying at all.
	But my point is, Regardless of the example, my point is that one data point, even if you can pull out data points and say, hey, this is more likely in this scenario, true, but that doesn't cause it, or correlation does not imply causation.
	There's a ton of other factors.
	But you can, okay, removing all the stats, and they have done studies on this, and they take quite a bit of biographical information from prisoners upon intake, and they've done studies on this.
	Removing all that, though, I think it's just almost common knowledge that it's better to grow up with two parents versus one.
	I actually agree with you guys.
	And just because I might have a counterpoint and maybe a little devil's advocate doesn't mean I agree with the overall point that a two-parent household is better and creates more well-rounded people.
	However, like, it's just not a good, it's not a strong argument and like it's an incorrect use of data.
	But it's a fact.
	You can't disagree with the fact.
	It's not a fact.
	It's just a data point.
	It's a fact.
	The data point in and of itself is a fact, but the conclusion that you're drawing from the data point isn't a fact.
	That's in a hypothesis.
	That's like saying all the people in the, all the NBA players, like the percentage of NBA players that are black are 75%.
	That's a fact.
	doesn't matter so like it's more you're but being black isn't the overall factor of why they're in the nba though You see what I mean?
	Like their height, their talent, their athletic ability.
	I'm not saying it's irrelevant.
	I'm just saying, I agree with the overall point.
	I'm just saying it's a poor argument to make to spend $100 to put on the show.
	I am lost.
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	So do you think the following statement is wrong?
	I mean, I think the statement is essentially, I mean, do you disagree that the majority of people who are in prisons grew up without fathers?
	Do you disagree with that?
	If that's what the actual, if you took a poll and that's what the numbers came up to, then I don't disagree with that.
	I would disagree with the statement that's saying they're in prison because they don't have fathers.
	That's my point.
	I don't know what that is.
	No, that's not the argument.
	That's not what we're saying.
	That's what he said on there.
	He said he was using that information as a, like to strengthen the argument that he was trying to make where he's trying to say that, oh, if you're not on a team sport and if you don't have a dad, you're a bad girlfriend.
	That's literally what he said.
	He doesn't make that a double parent household makes it less likely for them to go to prison.
	I've met people who went to prison and whose fathers went to prison, whose fathers' fathers went to prison and they're like passing down a legacy torch of like going to prison.
	So I don't know.
	It's a generalization is all we're trying to say.
	The exception does not make the rule.
	Correlation does not imply cause.
	We live in a world of people.
	Y'all, this is a great statistics class, but I think ultimately like get back to dating.
	Can you cut out the sarcasm?
	We don't need the attitude.
	Get back to dating.
	Why do you think I'm attituding?
	This is literally my personality.
	Like I promise you.
	If you think this is mean or rude, I'm not going to sugarcoat myself.
	Just like, but okay, if we're talking about something, we don't need the extra.
	Okay.
	So can you pull that back up, Eric?
	So fathers keep their sons out of prison and their daughters off the pole.
	Now, if you grow up without a father, it's not like your future is written in, like, you can still become a functioning member of society.
	Absolutely.
	It's not a guarantee that if you don't have a father, your life's going to be terrible and you can be a wonderful person.
	However, it helps to have a father.
	I agree with that statement.
	My whole point, and we can get back to the dating show after this.
	My whole point is that is a poor example or a poor argument to say that like It's just picking one data point rather than like a whole inclusive scope of what's actually going on that put people in prison and put girls on the pole.
	So it's like you're drawing a straight line when it's really a zigzag is all I'm saying.
	And it's just like kind of, I don't want to say an ignorant statement, but just like an obtuse statement.
	I also want to say because we have myself on the pole for exercise.
	Like I do pole fitness, and those classes are so expensive.
	So I give strippers so much credit because they are athletes.
	I'm sorry.
	If you've never climbed up on a pole, pulled yourself upside down, you don't know what working out is because that is crazy.
	Like, so like women.
	Am I in a parallel university?
	No, we're talking about, oh, women are putting themselves on a pole.
	Well, there are women that purposely want to go on the pole.
	The pole's fun as F, you know, for whatever.
	However, you want to do it.
	It's like, you know, and my thought on not having a father, it's based on choices, okay, for the individual in education, honestly.
	Because, you know, I've met people that did not have a good background.
	However, they made the choice to go a different route than the, you know, the spiral, right?
	It's based on education.
	And it's not just like books.
	It's like getting the right information.
	Because you could get information from a friend.
	Like a real friend would tell you what's up.
	Like a bad friend would be like, yeah, go for it.
	When it's like, don't fucking, like, you know, not really there looking out for you.
	So, you know, and that's that's just you're saying a lot of words.
	It's a lot of words, Sally.
	So you're just basically saying that.
	I get what you're saying.
	I think what you're saying is smacking my gums.
	You're saying the why.
	The why is irrelevant.
	What do you mean?
	Like you're saying, you're talking about why these people are where they are.
	I think she's just saying this is where they are.
	This is the numbers.
	And this is the reality of the world.
	It's choices.
	It's the individual's choice.
	And also, there are people.
	You do this three days a week.
	Two days a week.
	Two days a week.
	I believe it's choices.
	It's not because they have a father and a mother.
	Because sometimes kids are screwed up with both parents.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, we're going to last thing and then we're going to.
	Yeah, last thing.
	I think what she's just trying to say is that regardless of your environmental factors, no matter how much they may weigh on you, you still have individual agency and choice.
	What she's saying, she just said it with a bunch of different examples.
	So I hear you.
	Yeah, I could come up with a bunch of different things, and I'm not just smacking my gums.
	Back to the dating show.
	Back to the dating show.
	Totally a virgin.
	Explain that shirt.
	I liked it, so I bought it.
	But you're totally a virgin.
	Totally.
	Are you not a virgin?
	It's like the same concept of me saying I've never been in a relationship before.
	That's, I'm totally a virgin.
	Who's in a situation shift?
	Okay, so coming back to you, you said that you've had your longest anything was one week.
	I mean, I think it depends on like what your definition.
	You said talking to someone.
	Like, we are fresh out of high school, so we have a very different relationship to the, you know, how relationships work with people.
	I never dated anybody in high school, and I never really spent a considerable amount of time talking to someone in a dating kind of way.
	Well, you go to UCSP, correct?
	So you were here for the fall semester.
	Is it quarter semester at UCSB?
	Okay, quarter.
	So that starts in like September.
	Yeah.
	Okay, and we're now in March.
	That's what, eight, seven, wait, six, seven months.
	So I mean, in that period of time, you know.
	UCSB is the number one party school in the U.S. There's parties every single weekend.
	Just you two, actually.
	How frequently do you guys party?
	Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday?
	Usually Friday, Saturday, but I mean it varies.
	Some weekends we don't go out at all other weekends, you know, three days in a row.
	Also different definitions of, I guess, because like sometimes we'll go to parties, sometimes we're just hanging out with smaller groups of people.
	But again, I don't think it's necessarily like just going out to parties as a purpose of like finding a relationship or whatever.
	We met a lot of cool people doing that kind of stuff.
	No, I'm not saying that you need to go to these environments to necessarily find a relationship, but the longest period of time you've ever talked to a guy, whether that's in college or prior, was one week, correct?
	I mean, that was a generalization.
	If I really think about it, I might have had someone who I was kind of interested in that I talked to for a little bit longer than that, but nothing to the point where I was like, I'm texting this person constantly.
	I think that we're going to be in a relationship.
	And so kind of like, do you have a sense of what you're looking for?
	As of right now, I don't.
	I think still I'm just a very busy person.
	And so just not right now, no.
	Okay, so when would are you currently seeing someone right now?
	No.
	Are you currently hooking up with someone right now?
	No.
	When's the last time you hooked up with someone?
	I think the last time I kissed someone was a couple of weeks ago.
	That's not really what I mean by hookup, but hookup, I don't know, probably a while ago.
	Been a minute?
	Been a minute?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Busy with school.
	Busy with school.
	I feel it.
	And what about you?
	Are you talking to somebody right now?
	No.
	No.
	At all.
	But you party every weekend, right?
	Yeah, I party every weekend, but that doesn't mean I'm getting with guys every weekend.
	No, of course not.
	But I mean, there's certainly, you know, like I said, UCSB, number one party school.
	It's definitely quite a bit of a hookup culture.
	I'm sure you guys would agree.
	Oh, yeah, there's a crazy hookup culture here.
	And it does seem, I've heard from both men and women that it seems to be, at least for people that live in this area, it's hard for people to find relationships because everyone just wants to hook up, right?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, you brought up the fact that we've been here for, you know, six, seven months, whatnot.
	But within that timeframe, I have met a very small handful of people who have expressed wanting a relationship in any kind.
	The hookup culture is very prevalent here.
	People don't want relationships.
	They don't want relationships.
	People don't want relationships.
	Do you want a relationship?
	No, I mean, I just got out of one.
	Right, two months ago, you said?
	Yeah.
	So jumping into something serious right now is just not really desirable for me.
	Okay, got it.
	So do you, would you say you're kind of just doing your own thing?
	Do you occasionally will do hookups?
	I mean, yeah, I have here and there, but again, not really.
	It's getting over recent breakup and stuff.
	Like, I haven't really been putting myself out there.
	Has there been a rebound?
	There was like one person I was seeing for like a very short period of time, but I don't really talk to them anymore.
	And what about you?
	Any hookups here and there?
	A couple, yeah, a couple here and there.
	Nothing super serious, but.
	I have a question.
	I'm very curious, how do guys, like you're around your age, how do they talk to you guys?
	That's the funny thing is that they don't.
	I have gotten approached at a party maybe twice since being here.
	Men don't approach us here.
	I don't know.
	Which, you know, I find funny because there's so many beautiful women here in Isla Vista.
	I honestly think that might be the problem.
	Yeah, there's so many of us here.
	But no, me and my friends, we never really get approached at parties.
	So even the men who do come up and talk to us, they're...
	You've been approached only twice.
	I mean...
	I mean, that I can't.
	I mean, you can have conversations with people, but just like a guy coming up to you being like, hey, can I get your.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you there.
	You said, but the men who do approach us, you were about to say.
	I mean, it's, again, very rare, but the ones who have approached me were like very, very incoherent and very, very drunk.
	I couldn't really hold like a clear conversation with them.
	So it's kind of iffy if it even like counts.
	I think the biggest difference from when I was growing up to the generation now is I remember being in eighth grade.
	We used to have, used to go home from school, they used to have chat rooms that you could call, and you would call the chat room, you would enter the room, and you would just talk to people.
	You don't know where the, you don't know where they are.
	Or that you would just, no, no.
	This is like an actual.
	Like Omega?
	From.
	No, no, no.
	I'm from Memphis.
	And we, yeah, there was like a number you would call.
	I've heard of it.
	And then you would just enter the chat, and then you would just talk.
	You might be just talking shit the whole time, but you might meet a girl.
	You just talk to a girl.
	And that's all you did was talk.
	Was it randomized?
	Yeah, it's random.
	You don't know.
	Yeah, you don't know who you're talking to.
	No, you can't see it.
	This was pre-just.
	This was pre-smartphone.
	So they could have catfished, like, and I'm not sure.
	Yeah, but yeah, you'd be like, oh, what school do you go to?
	So I think that's why a lot of.
	Wait, that's the reason?
	Yeah, that's why.
	I've never heard of that thing.
	Well, yeah, but I feel like that's why.
	Well, it's one of the reasons why.
	You think because on social media?
	Well, I think the big reason is dating apps and social media.
	True.
	That's why, like, in the past, if a guy wanted to get a girl, he couldn't just get on an app and swipe and hope like somebody.
	Like, now a lot of guys have access to the dating apps.
	And whereas before, if you didn't approach a girl, you had nothing.
	Even if these guys aren't successful on the dating apps, they still, they're at least maybe getting some conversation, right?
	Whereas at least attempting to get an option, whereas back then you had to approach a girl.
	Yeah.
	I think not only are there more options, which I think you brushed on, but you also get more of a chance to decide what you're going to respond with or how you were going to talk, right?
	Like voice to text or something like video to video, or a guy approaching you at a party, he has to actually think about how his, like, how his swagger is, how he's how his movements are, everything.
	But now it's just like, if you're like spitting game, like text to text, like you could think about a response in two hours.
	True.
	Right.
	Yeah, I wanted to talk about that.
	Which I love and I hate for myself too, because I can think of something witty to say like an hour later.
	But I was like, if I was like this in person, is this really me?
	Or is this just like me an hour later?
	Women don't really need game, though.
	Really?
	No, no, but it's important.
	They don't need games.
	It's important to uphold, but yeah, it's true.
	Like, respectfully, most men will just sleep with anything or anyone if given the opportunity and a chance.
	What?
	Men will like fuck an apple pie.
	American Pie.
	American Pie.
	I know.
	Good film, good film.
	I'm thinking great film.
	Yeah.
	Wait, you think American Pie is a little bit more like that?
	In order to.
	Do you think American Pie is a great film?
	It did what it did at the time period it was portrayed in class.
	Honestly, I'm not going to lie.
	That's like one of my guilty pleasure favorite films.
	Yeah, no, it's good.
	Go ahead.
	Someone was.
	Oh, yeah.
	American Pie.
	American Pie.
	Was that where this one time from Bandcamp?
	So I was in the marching band in high school, and we used to always say that.
	That was my favorite thing.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I did have sex with my couch at that point.
	No, I'd probably say like fourth grade.
	There's like crevices in the fucking.
	Oh, that's true.
	I mean big mouth where he like literally fucks the pillow and like the couch.
	Oh, I need to watch that.
	Like literally you.
	No, there's some like going through PR.
	Y'all have all done some weird stuff.
	Don't act like I'm not.
	Yeah, y'all hump the edges of like counters and stuff.
	Yeah, everyone's true actually.
	I've done some weird stuff.
	Don't act like I'm...
	For sure.
	No, you're not alone.
	Watch the TV show.
	They literally wrote it into their big mouth.
	Oh, yeah.
	So you're in a situationship, correct?
	Yeah.
	How long has that?
	It's just been on and off.
	And it's kind of like, I don't know.
	I'm just like really good friends with him.
	And it's not necessarily like any expectations.
	On and off for how long?
	I've known him for two years.
	So you've been in a two-year situationship.
	Yeah, but I'm just the type.
	It's not even like, oh, I'm trying to get wife or anything like that.
	It's just I'm the type that I am a relationship person.
	So if I'm not in a committed relationship, then I typically just like date around.
	And then if I connect with somebody, I stay with that one person.
	And it can be casual, it can be open.
	Like I'm open-minded.
	So it's like, I don't mind if like he's, as long as there's clear communication, I don't mind if he's like sleeping around or anything like that.
	As long as he's honest with me, he's safe, I'm safe, all that kind of stuff.
	If I'm not now if my like wants shift to where I want to be in a committed relationship, I'd no longer be in that situation.
	So you said you're, are you seeing other guys right now?
	No, like I like, I'm a like relationship person, so it's hard for me to actually like yeah, but it's like I like to just pick one person and kind of stick with that person because I don't like catch feelings that often.
	So I don't feel the need or draw to like go elsewhere as long as like it's a respectful relationship.
	And yeah, like.
	Is he sleeping with other girls?
	I'm sure.
	Like I'm sure he is.
	You don't mind?
	Not really.
	No.
	But you're exclusive to him.
	Yes, like, but not that I'm not like, hey, this, like, I'm only for you.
	I'm basically your girlfriend without the title.
	It's more just like we have a mutual respect and I have all the freedom in the world to go elsewhere.
	I just don't want to personally because I don't like to sleep around.
	Sure, personally.
	Okay, so you could.
	So you can, if another guy were to come into the picture that you decided this guy, this new guy is better than this situationship, then obviously trade up or whatever.
	I mean, I don't know if it's trading up because like, like I said, I. Is he a Chad?
	What does, what does that mean?
	Exhibit.
	Exhibit A. Chad, tall.
	Yeah, Chad.
	Tall, not tall, good looking, but yeah, you know, tall, masculine, masculine.
	I'll say he's a Chad, yeah.
	How tall is he?
	He's 6'8.
	I'm 5'10, 6'1 in heels, so I like them tall.
	Yeah, 6'8, 6'1.
	He doesn't play any sports right now, but he's an athlete.
	What kind of athlete?
	I think basketball, football, boxing.
	Two-year situationship, you think?
	I mean, like, he's older, so he doesn't do those things anymore.
	I think he's 32.
	Oh, okay.
	So he you, so he's just retired.
	Like, he'll play pickup and he'll go to the gym.
	Okay, but he's an athlete.
	He's an athletic person.
	Okay, he's fit.
	He's 6'8.
	Okay.
	Was he a former professional athlete or no?
	Like overseas, yeah.
	Boxing.
	Oh, basketball.
	Yeah.
	But he's an American citizen.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So two years in a situationship.
	Do you want to get married and have kids at some point?
	I don't know about kids per se, but marriage eventually, yeah.
	I think I just need to be ready as my own individual person and grow myself and focus on like career and stability and mental health and just be the best version of myself as cliche as that sounds and then be in a space to be a good partner.
	So it's yeah, it's not like I'm pining for anything.
	So you said you've been seeing it's on the on the game off again for two years?
	Yeah, but like the friendship has been consistent.
	How long have you seen how often do you see him?
	Probably like we talk every day or see each other every day for the most part.
	Really?
	You don't live together though?
	No, we live really near each other though.
	We're neighbors basically.
	Like our friendship like is I don't know you want to have somebody like-minded as you.
	So it's like if I'm working on my life and he's working on his and I can do something to help him, I'm going to help him.
	And if he can do something to help me, he's going to help me.
	Like it's still a relationship, a friendship.
	You guys see each other every day?
	At least briefly.
	Briefly?
	Yeah.
	Not like some crazy hangout.
	It could just be like, hey, I'm picking up this at your house.
	like you know we kind of like have things intertwined a bit but just as a friendship kind of like you know I mean you you say this is a situationship but I mean this sounds like a relationship to me but I mean not not not entitled but obviously like we and you guys see each other almost every day that's I That seems to be out of the realm of situationship.
	That's my version of a situation.
	Throughout the entire course of the situationship, was there any point?
	I know you said not now.
	You're not dating and seeing other guys.
	Has there ever been a point where you're you've hooked up with another guy while you were maybe earlier on in the situationship?
	Like really early on, I was definitely like talking to other people and I was like honestly coming off of like a pretty bad breakup.
	So I was like more trying to distract myself rather than like actually searching for somebody or whatever.
	There was one person I like talked to and maybe like hung out with, but I didn't like really, there's not like a lot of overlap, if any.
	Okay, so but you're not like you won't even go on a date with another guy, correct?
	If I was feeling them, but I, to be honest, I just one, it takes a lot of energy to like go through the dating apps and all that kind of stuff.
	And I don't necessarily, I'm a homebody for the most part, so I don't really have a lot of energy for that.
	I don't know what that means.
	It's a good thing, don't we?
	Okay, so, but yeah, like, so I don't have like the energy for that.
	And I honestly, I've not dated that many people because I don't feel as much as I can mentally connect on a friendship level, I don't feel sexual attraction to a lot of people because I'm like demisexual.
	Okay, so, but a what?
	A what sexuality is that?
	It's demisexual.
	Okay, so you said that he's seeing other girls, correct?
	Yes, I, we have an like the respect for each other that if I asked him a direct question, he would tell me, but if I don't ask, he doesn't need to tell me, and I don't necessarily always like need to be up in his business.
	That's true.
	It's his life.
	Do you want a relationship with him?
	I would definitely be open to that and like want more, but it's all about timing.
	Have you broached we've talked about it here and there, but what does he say?
	Like again, it's a timing thing.
	He doesn't like reject the idea at all.
	It's more of just being on the same page about certain issues and then like, you know, men, they tie their emotional and mental health a lot to their monetary status.
	So, you know, with COVID and everything, a lot of people had setbacks and men often like to do, like go it alone and like pull themselves up by their bootstraps and everything.
	A good woman, in my opinion, could obviously help this situation, but men, that takes such a toll on their mental that they need to be in a good space in all parts of their life to then focus in on a relationship.
	But it's not something that I've pressed for, and it's not something he's pressed for.
	We're just kind of on the same page, and we are in a lot of communication about that.
	Could this guy be your life partner?
	I could see him being my life partner for sure.
	And moving forward, would you continually be okay with him stepping out on you?
	Like with other women?
	I think we like you're the main chick, but he's got the main chick here.
	But I wouldn't be mad at us mutually agreeing to certain things.
	You get older, you try a lot of things, you know, you don't know.
	Sounds like Alpha Widow.
	Okay.
	So I have a question.
	So why do, like most women get cheated on.
	Have y'all been cheated on before? No.
	Or those with, you've never been cheated on? No.
	I have not.
	I have only had one boyfriend who I'm currently dating.
	And you think he doesn't want any other?
	Absolutely not.
	Whether he's a human being and has interest.
	Humans are biologically monogamous.
	You say what?
	Humans are biologically monogamous.
	Bullcrud.
	No, they're not.
	Yes, they are.
	No, they are.
	Okay.
	They're not.
	You are.
	You want one guy.
	Homo sapiens?
	No, they're not monogamous.
	Homo sapiens are monogamous.
	Hoganous creatures.
	They can take a simple Google search like Eric Button.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yo, thanks, Aaron.
	Oh, I appreciate it, man.
	Hey, Brian, it's the Aaron slash Jessica attack again from Sunday.
	Assika, would you consider bringing on Vince Darned or Gavin McGuinness on show?
	It would be a podcast to remember.
	I'm not sure who Vince Dow is, but I know, isn't Gavin McGinnis the Proud Boys founder?
	That might be, is that TOS?
	I think he's banned on Twitch, so that might be TOS for us.
	Yeah, honestly, I don't really know enough about them, but.
	Never say never.
	Okay, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Continue with your...
	No, you said homo sapiens are...
	Biologically.
	There's only like 11 mammals that are monogamous.
	That is correct.
	And humans aren't one of them.
	They are.
	I've read a book on it.
	You can read, but you all know a Harari.
	So just because that one person made a book, it's right?
	Scientific research.
	I think that women are definitely long-term mating partners.
	Yes, women are.
	Women are, but men aren't.
	We're completely utterly opposite.
	There has been a cultural, I think where it differs biologically and culturally, it's been more culturally accepted, but biologically, lifelong mating partners.
	Is it on culturally, it's a scientific credited.
	Aren't penguins and peer-reviewed?
	Yeah, penguins, parasites, etc.
	Very.
	Swans.
	Maybe.
	Swans?
	Swans.
	Geese.
	Lobsters.
	About a quarter of all primates.
	About a quarter of all primates.
	Lobsters are.
	Unbelievable.
	Crustaceans.
	Shelves.
	I was going to say the seas cockroaches.
	I think monogamous marriage is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself to find happiness.
	And for a culture that's extremely important.
	I thought we already all agreed that our household is beneficial.
	I think if we're going to have a two-parent household, if we don't, you know, endorse and promote marriage.
	That's true.
	You just said all this bad stuff about single-family households.
	Yeah.
	But then you don't think that women should commit to marriage.
	No, get Nick Cannon.
	Come on.
	He can do it if he can do it.
	I never said marriage is bad.
	Yeah, if he's a multi-millionaire.
	So marriage with multiple women is cool.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	There's cultures that are Islam.
	If you can take care of as many wives as you can, you can interpret.
	You take advantage of that, though.
	I agree.
	I know a lot of Arab men who take advantage of that.
	Oh, well, there's good men and bad men everywhere.
	There's always going to be somebody taking advantage of somebody.
	But yeah, that's fine.
	You wanted to come in?
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I was going to say there was a quote somewhere that said that Nick Cannon regrets having so many children with so many different women because he can't be in all of their lives like often enough.
	Like how many birthdays does he have a year?
	He has like 16, like 12.
	Well, including his wives or whatever, girlfriends, whatever, whatever.
	Like at least 20 to celebrate or to remember.
	Yeah, and he can barely remember like five.
	Yeah, and he has the financial resources, like more financial resources than like 99% of men.
	Nick Cannon's children will be fine.
	Can you name someone who doesn't have an incredible amount of money that is in a productive, fulfilling, polyamorous relationship where they're family and wives?
	Yes, I know quite a few people.
	Enjoy it.
	Yes, I know quite a few people.
	There's a whole community.
	Mormons?
	No, polyamorous.
	People that are poly and happy and whatever.
	I just, I think that that is the, like a small sliver of people.
	I think it's a very small sliver of people.
	And if women take up just a little more than half the population and most women are not down for that, then how's how are we endorsing relationships where men get multiple women at once?
	Because the men that can have girlfriends are going to have women.
	Do you get what I'm saying?
	Like the men that can get girls, they're going to get girls.
	And the men that don't, they don't get it.
	But what does that do for a society?
	Some men don't think that's a good thing.
	Like I understand we're thinking that the small-minded, oh, just me, I'm going to do this.
	This gets me off.
	I enjoy this.
	But what, like, do you think this would be a good thing if, you know, everyone in America, or, you know, that was the quota?
	That's what everyone's doing when.
	Well, that used to be the.
	That used to be how the world was.
	And we've involved to marriages.
	Committed marriages.
	Right, because that's what was better for society.
	But now we live in a world with social media where the women, y'all pick, you decide who you date.
	There's dudes that don't get anything.
	That's the case.
	So you guys decide to smash the dudes that are 6'8, 6'4, abs, attractive, blah, You don't pick the other guys, right?
	That's natural selection.
	I mean, I guess where are you going?
	It depends on who you're talking to.
	So I don't go for the height and abs.
	Okay.
	Right, you go for guys you can be mean to.
	Huh?
	You go for guys you can be mean to.
	No, I go for men because I do agree.
	Like, my, okay, I like making my money, right?
	I love working.
	That is something that I'm passionate about.
	However, I still like to be taken care of.
	So I want someone that has their stuff together, but then I'm also dating in my 30s, mid-30s, almost 40s, right?
	So it's different than like when I was dating in my 20s.
	You guys are all in your 20s.
	You're in your 30s.
	But men in their 30s, I still consider are like in your 20s.
	You know, I tend to date older.
	Right, but those older men are still going to date younger women.
	Correct.
	I'm younger than the older men.
	Yes.
	So she's in a different age bracket, baby.
	I'm in a good age bracket, I believe, right now.
	Because have you guys ever seen those memes?
	It's like, don't play with me.
	I could date you or your daddy.
	I'm in that.
	I'm like, I'm sorry, guys.
	I'm right there right now.
	Yeah.
	Right, but I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
	A man.
	Okay, what age of men are you saying that you date?
	I usually like to date at least 40s and so what do you think is a man's prime?
	When does a guy hit his man hit his prime?
	I think they don't start maturing.
	I'm sorry for the ones that are mature.
	I think that they don't get it out of that because maybe I came from Los Angeles and the, you know, you see guys that are like 39, 36 still in the club.
	That's not a good look, right?
	For me.
	When do guys hit their prime?
	In my humble opinion, I think at 40s and up, 40s and up with experience.
	For instance.
	Okay, so when do women hit their prime?
	Well, it just depends because JLo's in her 50s and she looks better than she was in her 20s.
	J-Lo's bank account is also very, very important.
	We don't care about money.
	We don't care about your money.
	We don't care about how much money you make.
	Don't worry about the script.
	I'm not, yeah, I'm not talking about it.
	Don't worry about it.
	Into the mic.
	Don't worry about it.
	So, you know, the thing is, different standards are changing.
	But if you had to say, when do women hit their prime?
	It really depends on the woman.
	Oh, we just men judge what a woman's prime is, right?
	Okay, I think that.
	So at what age do you think men I like myself in my 30s, but earlier 30s.
	No, not you.
	Think outside of yourself.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just so selfish.
	I don't know logically on homelessness.
	Like literal, like physical health or all over or talking about yourself.
	When it comes to dating, what men are attracted to?
	What would men say that a woman's prime is?
	So I'm saying early 20s.
	So if you're saying early 20s.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So why would a guy in his 40s, in his prime, not want a woman in their prime?
	Although, because of the mental health.
	If you're thinking like back in the day, okay, like biologically, healthy bodies on the younger scale, right?
	As you get older, it's just, you know.
	When I turn 40 and I have money and I want to have a family, I'm not going to pick a woman that's in her 30s.
	Okay.
	Well, that is your preference.
	That is your preference.
	How would you have kids if she's like, like, unless you have a lot of money, like, it's more dangerous to have kids after your 30s.
	I know, I agree.
	Okay.
	We agree.
	For men, technically, it's 45.
	If you want to be healthy and if you're like smoking weed or drinking or whatever, then you're going to compromise yourself too.
	So, you know, I don't want to get that detailed about it.
	Like with me, I waited way too long because I'm like going to be 36 this year as far as children.
	But I do want kids, but it's like I'm going to put them on ice pretty soon, like extracting my eggs.
	You're going to do that?
	I really, that's my plan because I'm not just going to go and find slick Rick and then just get knocked up.
	Like I've, like, I'm careful because I want to create with a human being that I am going to have to be able to co-parent with, whether we're married or not.
	Ideally, marriage, right?
	But it's like there's so many people that just hate their spouse and they stay together for the children.
	I'm sorry.
	I think she wants to say that.
	So, just to answer your question, I'm gonna give men a little more credit and say the ones that know that they want to settle down eventually, have kids, be married, I think that they know at a relatively young age.
	I am gonna guess like 20.
	So, if you know that you want to be looking for a wife in your early 20s, this is for the subset of men who are like, I know I want to get married, they're probably gonna be looking to women around their own age.
	So, that's why I think we see marriages commonly between like 25 and 35 with you know non-age gap marriages.
	But then, of course, older 40-year-old men want women in their prime.
	And if women want security, and you know, if I'm 22 and I just want security, and this older man's 40 and he has the security and wants a young woman, that's why you see that together.
	So, I don't know how this got.
	I have a question for you.
	So, you said when you're like in your 40s, you want to settle down and you'd pick a woman in her 20s, like in her prime time.
	Yes, okay.
	What happens when she's 35, past her prime time?
	You still committed?
	Just get a different one, right?
	Would you stay committed?
	Yeah, why not?
	Okay, no, I was just wondering, I'd just say, put in the work, put in the equity, yeah, you got equity now.
	You can put in years, you got tenure.
	Just wondering, good me personally, I've aged like and I'm 26.
	I've aged like fine wine.
	I was so like horrendous.
	I was horrendous.
	Age like fine wine?
	Yeah, that's what they say, right?
	Yes, I've heard that.
	Have you heard that?
	More beautiful.
	Don't worry about that.
	She was saying when she was younger, she was more busted.
	Like, you're not busted at all, but she was saying, like, she didn't know her makeup or hair routine.
	No, you just level up as a woman that 48.
	When I was like 20, 21, if I showed you pictures, like, fugly is like not the word.
	But if you would have found a real one, no, I was like, he would have been like, you know what's really funny?
	I dated.
	So I had a relationship in high school.
	It lasted three years.
	And right out of high school, my first boyfriend was 20 years older than me, 22 years older than me.
	He was 42.
	And we dated for like two years.
	And I still wasn't at my prime.
	I was awkward.
	I was.
	Well, y'all pick horrible men.
	You want to know why?
	I wasn't.
	Obviously, because I'm 18 and I'm not even fully developed at all.
	Like, my brain is, my two brain cells are dancing together.
	Like, what?
	I kind of, I'm not going to lie.
	I kind of agree with you to a point.
	To a point.
	And I know I was talking about, earlier I did, like in the conversation, I did actually agree with you about like the two-parent household.
	I was just saying that guy's argument sucked.
	But what I'm saying, I agree with you to a point because even in myself, I do question my own choices and who I pick as a partner.
	And I attribute that a lot to like, maybe I have something internal where like because of what happened with my dad, like that's influencing my choices.
	And as far as like the whole prime thing goes, what the actual problem is too is that like evolution and biology hasn't caught up to modern medicine.
	People used to die at 40, so it makes sense that women get into prime childbearing years from 14 to 30 because they would die shortly after because we didn't have antibiotics.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But now people are living to like 80 and men can just keep reproducing.
	I saw a lot of comments about like population and for the population, there's like 8 billion people.
	We don't need any more people.
	Like that's also a stupid argument.
	But I do kind of agree with you that like, of course, men are going to be attracted to women in their childbearing years, which is much younger.
	As far as like mental development, have you tried to have a conversation with like an 18-year-old lately?
	Like when I like, when I was 18, I was attracted to 18-year-olds.
	When I'm like 27, I look at an 18-year-old and it looks like a little boy.
	So it's like, that's the disconnect, I think.
	And it's like, there's value in older women because it's like, we have age, experience, like tact.
	I find that so not a good argument because I agree with you.
	I'm saying I agree with the body.
	I think that you just put out a really bold statement, the way that women hate the way men do.
	Oh, all older women are this.
	They're all young women are that.
	I think that you become smart through experiences and reading and listening to smart people rather than just aging.
	I agree with you.
	You can age well.
	You can age knowledgeably or you cannot.
	So just being older does not make you smarter.
	I agree with you 100%.
	That was a very broad generalization.
	What I'm saying is like, if I have a conversation with a 50-year-old, we don't have shit in common.
	We come from a different time.
	It's not about.
	It's not anything.
	No, it's like even just like socially or like when you go to like social justice issues politically, like all there's just age difference does kind of matter.
	I'm not saying people can't connect.
	Hold that thought.
	$200.
	Women age like milk in the summer southern sunshine.
	You are welcome for the alliteration.
	Wow, that was poetic, Markuvius.
	Thank you very much for that.
	Yo, by the way, Eric, I clicked off one of the other super chats.
	If you can show that one.
	I think, wait, can I think something?
	Can I just finish the one point I still think?
	Women shouldn't think.
	You're right.
	No, just.
	Why are we thinking still?
	No, I really didn't mean to demean younger people.
	I'm just saying you're at different points in your life.
	What I wanted at 18 is very different than what I want at 27.
	So it's like you got to find somebody, regardless of age, what aligns with you.
	So it's like when I say I'm talking to an 18-year-old boy, that's not somebody that probably wants to settle down and have a family and get married.
	So it's like, that's why I'm saying there's a disconnect.
	But biologically, of course, older men are going to be attracted to younger women.
	So I agree with you, and I agree with like the whole like parental figure thing.
	Yeah, it's a parental, it's totally a parental thing.
	And I think it's like it's a strong word.
	I don't even know, can I use it?
	The G-word?
	G-rooming.
	Is that a thing?
	What?
	Grooming?
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Well, like, we're talking about older guys.
	We're talking about adult relationships.
	that's irrelevant right but i'm not going to even entertain that conversation Older men who are attracted to younger women are not grooming.
	Grooming is in the context of like predators.
	No, yeah, and that's not what I meant at all.
	I meant it very loosely as in like my experience, for example, when I'm 18, dating somebody who's 20 years older than me.
	What is the reason for that?
	I need insecurity.
	And I didn't have any of that.
	Let's take those factors away.
	Money, security, all that other stuff that actually matters.
	What I actually wanted was like essentially a father figure, somebody who can like tell me what's up with life, somebody who could guide me through life.
	And that's what I needed.
	Got that philosophy out the way.
	And it's like, cool, I can start dating somebody who's like younger and more around my bracket of age.
	That's my personal experience.
	And I just wanted to interject and say that that's possible.
	That's possibly why you would be interested in a younger woman because you could instill what happens with male and female relationships is males instill their philosophies to women.
	And women, we either, if we love them, we're going to catch on to those philosophies and we're going to be like, oh, okay, great.
	Like, now this might be my political party, or I agree with you.
	You have to do that.
	Like, you have to bring your girl on your same wavelength if you want to start a family.
	If she's going to be a mom to your children, right, absolutely.
	You want to have the same.
	Absolutely.
	And I think it's easier to do it when it's a younger chick.
	But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Everyone else is stuck in the middle of the world.
	Whoever you are, though.
	As an older.
	I mean, it's healthier as far as the body, maybe, but like mentally, it's not for everybody.
	Like, honestly, mentally, like, you're bringing a child into the world.
	If you're still a child that can't even take care of yourself, how are you going to take care of another human being?
	What child can't take care of this?
	What are you talking about?
	You know, they're born with inherent maternal instincts, and I think that there is such thing as teen moms that become great, great moms.
	And financially, they can't take care of themselves.
	So I'm a little confused where you're going with this because if you have a man to provide you with money and security, what do you need to do that for if you already have maternal instincts?
	And I think that most women are born with those, and that's why most women become good moms.
	But you can't, I agree.
	Young moms are amazing moms, and moms are the best.
	Yeah, we can go on all day about that, but there's something to be said about age and experience and experience, life experience.
	A lot happens in your 20s, and things level out.
	Getting ran through and baggage and trauma.
	There's people with passionate initiality.
	Men don't want to be aware of that.
	So then why aren't they wifing us early?
	Why are they running around town?
	Like, you know, if they don't want us ran through and baggage trauma, why are they like waiting till like how are we so are so at 20 I should be looking for 40 year olds that are ready to settle?
	Like I don't know how to use it necessarily.
	I don't know how you it sounds like just a losing battle all around if you look at it.
	It's like all the responsibilities if you're a wife.
	All wives are found always.
	If you're 20 years old and you're a wife, you're going to be found.
	Period.
	In the story.
	I'm also going to play the devil's advocate.
	So, you know, in the perfect world.
	Yes.
	Like I, you know, had a few opportunities to get married, but I'm very selfish.
	And just, you know, like at least you admitted.
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	And I like my sleep.
	That is why I've postponed from having children.
	Because I even cried when I got my puppy and he would keep me up at night.
	I'm like, oh my God, I made such a mistake.
	But like, I'm just overanalyze everything.
	You postpone having children for sleep?
	Yeah, like I'm selfish and I like my sleep.
	And so when I have a kid, that kid's gonna be my life, right?
	So if I like my sleep, either have a kid or don't have a kid.
	You probably shouldn't have a kid.
	Correct.
	Why I don't have a kid.
	Thank you.
	But no, people think that it's very easy to raise children.
	And that's why people are like, hmm, I wonder why so many people are going to jail or doing this or doing that.
	Right.
	Does anybody else here have a kid, or am I the only one who has a kid here?
	Because I'm really the only one who can speak on the topic of even having and raising a child.
	Well, I mean, we all, we're all adults and we all have rational faculties.
	Especially as a mother.
	Like, I completely understand what you're saying, like, the mental readiness of having a kid.
	You are never going to be ready to have a kid.
	Never.
	Especially as a woman.
	Especially as a woman.
	Only women have kids.
	Yes.
	But you have to have parents.
	Some people have kids as a meal bother as well.
	And that is not cool, but it happens.
	Like, we're not in a perfect society.
	You know, it's anyway.
	Question.
	So, what to you is a wife?
	How do you qualify?
	How do you get tenure?
	There we go.
	Boom.
	Congratulations.
	So a wife is someone who is coachable, agreeable, nice, patient, caring, trusting, loyal.
	I would say beautiful inside and out.
	Not promiscuous.
	So now, what to you is a husband?
	Protector, provider, leader, what do you call it?
	What's the word?
	Yeah, guidance.
	Yeah.
	So in your opinion, how many men currently, just and what age ranges do you think are actually ready to step into that role versus how many women are out there ready to step in that role?
	There are way more husbands than there are wives.
	I like way more.
	Okay, maybe specific, like, think about your friendship group.
	How many of them are ready to be want to be a little bit more?
	Well, let's think about this.
	How many women are promiscuous?
	I don't know.
	Well, a lot.
	A lot.
	You would know better than me.
	I know.
	Trust me.
	Would you consider yourself a husband?
	Huh?
	Like, between the two?
	No, I still, I still, I personally still have some growth to do, just financially, but I know.
	Fair enough.
	So do you, how would you feel?
	So like, as a woman, I, in my long-term, when I get married, I hope that my husband never had a stage where he was dating multiple women at a time.
	I want to be with a man that always had his eye on one person and will not have a wandering eye.
	So, you know, that is, you're looking for a unicorn.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	I shouldn't say dating one person at a time because I think that we use the word dating like, like, it's sacred nowadays.
	Like, when I think of dating, I think of like, you know, back in the day, oh, yeah, I dated this person.
	I went out with them.
	Having dinner.
	Yeah, like going on a date with someone.
	That's what I consider dating.
	Having, you know, so it's totally fine with me if my future husband is dating multiple people at a time, going to dinner with her, seeing her, whatever.
	But what it sounds like you are in is like a polyamorous relationship.
	And I would not be okay with marrying someone who has previously been in a polyamorously defined relationship.
	Like I said earlier, men that can get women always, like, does your boyfriend watch porn?
	He actually, not right now.
	He has in the past, but.
	Okay, so that means he wants other women.
	That's exactly what that means.
	He wants women.
	We had a college where it's pushed on us.
	Our culture pushes sexuality on us like this.
	No, you're adult.
	You're a sponsor.
	You're a sponsor.
	But they've been dating since they were 14 and 16.
	So when he's 16 and like a young guy at the peak of his sexual drive, how are you going to say that now he like I just think that's unfair.
	To say because he watched porn when he was younger, he has a wandering eye.
	No, I'm saying currently like watch porn right now.
	Yeah, does he watch porn now?
	He does not.
	How do you know?
	Girlfriend knows.
	We've talked about it.
	He doesn't.
	I know.
	We've talked about it.
	All right, I'm going to move this along.
	Okay, we have a super chat here from Mark Quavius Martin.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Ladies can, oh, hold on.
	Let me hide the asteroid there.
	Oops.
	Okay, complimentary asteroid.
	Yo, Mark Quavius, thank you, man.
	Ladies, can you name one thing that women have been given autonomy over and haven't decimated in real time?
	Educational system, corporate world, social media, voting, consumerism, child raising, marriage, and relationships, even gyms.
	We live in a patriarchal fund.
	It's a matriarchy.
	Whoa, the asteroid keeps on coming.
	I don't know what's like that.
	Can I answer this?
	Sure.
	Mark Quavius, thank you, man.
	I would say child raising.
	I think that women continue to be, in general, good, strong mothers.
	But I think that the reason kids are so weak and soft these days is, and not entirely to the man's fault, there is no testosterone in our society anymore.
	So there is not as much of a masculine influence over our kids.
	Is masculinity frowned upon?
	Currently it is, and I think that that is awful.
	I think that we've stripped men of their masculinity.
	I think masculinity is very important, as is femininity.
	And that's why.
	And you basically have women who have become more masculine and men who have become more feminine.
	Correct.
	And I think it's her.
	And who do we have to blame for that?
	Media.
	Social media.
	Feminism.
	Eating too much soy.
	I agree.
	No, no, eating too much soy.
	There's a lot of estrogen in soy products.
	I'm so excited.
	It's in everything.
	It's true.
	Sure, I suppose diet and there's plastics out there.
	And it's not just diet.
	It's not just the singular consumer's fault.
	Our structures in our, you know, I'm all for capitalism, but capitalism has emphasized, you know, just profit margins with worse products.
	Therefore, just, you know, overuse soil and put soy in everything.
	And it's not necessarily men's fault, but like our, you know, the people running our country have just like disintegrated with like the just basis of what human beings should interact with.
	We're all slaves.
	Wait, hold on.
	I want to give Reese an opportunity here because you made a little face.
	I've been making a lot of faces.
	What was this most recent face about?
	Oh, pertaining to what part?
	I think I said feminism is to blame.
	No, it's so.
	Oh, feminism is to blame.
	Because the way that I view feminism and the way I believe that it's technically defined, it's about equality between men and women.
	It's not trying to make men less masculine or women.
	Erroneous!
	Erroneous.
	What the fuck?
	Why does the asteroid keep coming?
	I like it.
	Wait, Eric, you're going to have to hide that.
	Let's just start civilization over, is what they're saying.
	Yeah, I don't know why it's.
	Yeah, I don't know why I'm not.
	Just hide it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	But anyway, it's about equality.
	It's about equality, and I personally don't view exploring the spectrum of masculinity and femininity between both genders to be necessarily a bad thing.
	Can I respond to that?
	I think feminism today has gone a lot further than equality.
	And I think modern feminism is a lot different than feminism was maybe in the 70s.
	Right.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I mean, feminism's always been a man-hating ideology.
	However, it's taken quite some steps forward in that recently.
	I reject this idea that feminism is about equality.
	And here's why.
	I believe feminism, in its most, if I give it the most generous definition, is a women's advocacy movement.
	That's great.
	Women's advocacy is great.
	However, that's not the same as equality.
	Feminists don't advocate for equality if said equality comes to the detriment of women.
	So if there is no benefit to be reaped by said equality in terms of benefit that benefits women, feminists will not pursue it.
	So you'll fight for equality if said equality benefits women, but not if it doesn't.
	Not if it doesn't.
	So take, for example, the right to vote.
	Women, for a period of time, I mean, it's a very small period of time when we're looking at it, but for a period of time, men had the right to vote.
	Women didn't.
	And well, the reason why that is is because men had responsibilities.
	Chiefly, in order for you to be able to vote as a man, you had to be subject to military conscription.
	Women never had that court, that responsibility.
	They never had that option.
	Not responsible for that.
	That's a privilege.
	That's a privilege to not go to the Argonne forest in France in 1917 and go get chemical gas by the Germans.
	That's a privilege.
	Part of that's biological, though.
	Like, we're weaker.
	Like, genetically, we're weaker.
	The only society that was like that was like the Vikings and like women fought side by side with men.
	But like we are, grown man strength is different and you guys have different skill sets.
	Just like men are physically superior, like in when it comes to just like actual physicality and like knowledge of the body and like, you know, what is it, kinesiology?
	That's fine.
	Yes, I agree.
	So that makes sense.
	Yes, I agree with you.
	Men are physically stronger.
	Men make better soldiers.
	It's true.
	However, that doesn't change the fact that some poor 18-year-old boy in Kentucky had to go the fucking the Maginot line in France and go get trench foot and get fucking obliterated by a shell in 1918.
	I agree.
	You know, I don't know if you guys know the body count, the death counts or the casualties in World War I and World War II, which are almost exclusively male casualties.
	Who started the wars?
	Actually, they've done studies on this.
	Queens were much more likely to wage wars than kings.
	In any case, so saying that Jesus Christ!
	What does that mean?
	Oh, it's gotta disconnect to that.
	Well, Brian, you said never say never in a screw-you way.
	Bring on Gavin McGinnis.
	You throw people with feminists for Trump.
	You got away with it.
	Is he so much different?
	Maybe her better at walking the line.
	And you, I know it.
	His voice matters.
	Constitution exists.
	Yo, Aaron Chambers, thank you for the big $200 donation.
	I might be down to bring on Gavin.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	But hey, thank you, man, so much for that big $200 donation, man.
	That's huge, man.
	Thank you.
	So you said that men are to blame for the women.
	I didn't say that.
	I just asked the question.
	Okay, so I'm trying to return to my original point, which was.
	The responsibilities that men take on versus women, yeah.
	Yeah, so you don't see women fighting to equalize the draft.
	That would be equality.
	But I don't hear there's women aren't in the streets demanding that they also be drafted.
	Or be subject to the same thing.
	I would agree with you that society is extremely unfair to men and that the burden that they have on them and the box that they're put in is like substantially unequal.
	And while women have their issues and those are important as well, I don't think it's right to just dismiss men's issues at all.
	However, okay, we can look at like the queens and other societies, but talking about America, let's keep it to America.
	We didn't create this system.
	Do we benefit off of it in some ways?
	Yes.
	Did we fight to change it?
	Yes.
	Did it go too far in some places?
	Yes.
	And you use logic and knowledge and debate and common sense to try and get to a place that's good for everybody.
	But it's like saying that men have problems too shouldn't discredit any like women's issues.
	Because also real quick side note, not all women had the right to vote super like long ago.
	It was 1964 when black and brown women got the right to vote, which is very recent.
	But also, and it shouldn't happen the other way around.
	I'm not going to fact check on that.
	I'm not convinced.
	when the civil rights movement was so then also when do you think it was Well, I know.
	Blacks got the right to vote before women.
	I'm pretty sure radical black people.
	Are you talking about the poll tax?
	No, I'm talking about.
	The civil rights movement was 1964.
	But I'm not sure that's related to voting.
	There were other.
	It was voting rights.
	They did technically have the right to vote.
	They were illegally.
	However, they had all these kind of like roadblocks.
	Okay, so you're talking about intersectionality.
	Yes.
	At the end of the day, women got the right to vote in 1920.
	White women.
	That does matter, though.
	All women got the right to vote in 1920.
	Not equitably.
	But we're getting off track.
	I'm not familiar with that information.
	Okay, but my son of Roger.
	I'm getting off point though, because my point is also that like, women's issues shouldn't negate men's issues either, like at all.
	And it's unfair that society you have as a woman.
	What issue do you have?
	What issues do you have?
	I would love to hear.
	We're not always safe in all spaces.
	Who's safe in all spaces?
	I'm not safe in all spaces actually.
	No, I agree with your space.
	We're more subject to other creatures.
	Before that, you're a protector.
	I mean, you're gonna be safer in a lot more space, so you should, you should exercise.
	No, I'm talking about okay, sexual assault.
	Let's talk about that.
	That's what I mean.
	I didn't want to like, go all the way there, but that's like a main thing that women have to worry about literally every single day.
	Even just like, and the solution to sexual assault walking out strong men actually, who will protect you from sexual assault that's the solution to sexual assault is more strong men.
	Oh yeah no, I'm not saying.
	My whole point is that our issues shouldn't negate men's issues, and society is set up unfair for many people in many ways.
	But to say like, oh well, feminism is just like man-hating, is just like a myopic view of my, but it should be womanism as well.
	Feminism is problematic because that's feminism.
	I don't think men and women should be equal.
	You don't think?
	No high function.
	May we please change this?
	What do you mean how?
	So I don't think, I don't think we are equal.
	I think men have a different role in this world, and so do women.
	We have opposite roles.
	I think we should have similar opportunities perhaps, but the choice is for the opportunities, because everybody, I think if a woman wants to live a masculine lifestyle, that's her decision, but it's not the right one.
	I think that I wasn't co-signing.
	All of the procreation, like women are eight billion.
	What about?
	What about LGBTQIA?
	I don't support, oh shit Disavow, you know?
	Do you know?
	In America the death rate is higher than the birth rate?
	We do need to procreate there's eight billion.
	I just want to address one thing.
	A few of you guys said when he was, you got we were bringing up the being assaulted and stuff being worried walking home at night.
	Actually, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	Violent crime probably to cut.
	Yeah, it doesn't, that doesn't.
	Also, I was the gender of the perpetrator of a cr, of someone who has victimized.
	You doesn't undo the fact that you've just been victimized, so it's kind of relevant, but you can't negate like, who are the main perpetrators and who are like the victim, like it, what is exactly?
	It's a men problem.
	What's that got to do with women?
	When I spoke earlier, I was like primarily talking about sexual assault, where more and that is not to negate all the men that have been sexually assaulted at all but if you want to look at the numbers, primarily women are at a higher value, not if you look at the prison, uh statistics.
	So if you look at men, are more likely to get.
	My point is that, like women didn't create prisons, like we didn't set up the systems that are causing the damage, we benefit from them.
	I said women benefit exactly, and women benefit in certain ways and men do too.
	So you think that if women happen to have been in charge no, I'm not saying can you stop interrupting if if women happened to have been in charge, you think they wouldn't have established a justice system that includes incarceration?
	No, I think the way that the American industrial prison system is actually just fucked up in general and people shouldn't be put in cages, there are examples of other countries that actually rehabilitate their incarcerated people.
	Yeah, and I'm not.
	This is very like socialist.
	Like you don't believe in going to jail.
	No, that's not.
	We just talk about rainbows and butterflies.
	No, I was gonna say, can we get to like some fun questions?
	Honestly, I'm allowed to say this, This ain't fun.
	It is fun, but it's not.
	I do want to, let's bring it back to dating.
	We're getting wrong.
	Dating.
	But just on the whole, like, well, it's done by other men.
	So it's just like, so men are killed by other men.
	Therefore, that's not a problem.
	I think if I, okay, let me put it in one thing and we can honestly move on.
	10 seconds.
	The issue is not male, female.
	That's all shifting social norms and practices.
	The issue is people in power.
	Power corrupts people.
	There's plenty of experience or experiment.
	Stanford Prison Experiment.
	Go watch it on Netflix.
	That is a perfect example about how any person that gets power can corrupt them.
	Same with.
	That's so true.
	Yeah.
	Like when you study Nazi Germany.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So you're making it a male-female issue, and it's becoming divisive when really the issue is how we should look at our similarities and how we can help each other.
	And it's like not productive to be like, well, what about, what about?
	What about isms?
	But I agree with you.
	I agree with you.
	I agree with you.
	I mean, but you have feminists to blame for this because feminists, the core tenant of feminism is the patriarchy theory.
	Men as a class were the oppressors.
	It's basically Marxism, communism.
	Men as a class oppressed women.
	Women as a class are the oppressed.
	What does that teach women to feel about men?
	Nothing good.
	If you teach this to women, you're basically teaching women to have contempt for men.
	And that's what we're seeing playing out in real time.
	Feminisms are, excuse me, feminists are the one who have perpetuated this patriarchy theory.
	Feminists are the one who pitted men against women and women against men.
	Now we as men are pushing back and saying, we're saying, actually, no, there are some things that are shitty to us too.
	So we're playing the feminist game now.
	I agree.
	Feminism is actually really problematic in its whole ideation from the beginning of its conception.
	But it literally, my whole point is that I'm agreeing with you: men's issues shouldn't negate women's because there are.
	Yeah, and women's issues should not negate men's because women can't just be like, well, you guys don't have to deal with this, so shut up.
	Like, you created this.
	Like, I am making the point that we are not to blame for the benefits that we do get for, you know, like being pretty girls and getting in free stuff and stuff.
	Men don't get that privilege.
	Men are very shit on in society, and they don't get to enjoy certain things like women do, and they don't get to have the same freedoms when it comes to expression.
	Wait, you go ahead then.
	Go ahead.
	I said, I think men do get those privileges sometimes.
	I've a lot of men's generalizations I have been with, and like even girls that I've seen on this show have said, I have literally paid for a bum ass dude our whole relationship.
	And it's very common because men are more feminine now.
	That's the exception, not the rule.
	Yeah, we are talking in generalities.
	I have a question aspect.
	Brian, if we lived in Brian World, what would laws look like in the sense of like equality?
	Like, would women have the right to vote?
	Like, I'm just wondering.
	Well, I have total power.
	I get rid of voting.
	I dictate.
	I know.
	Sorry, I'm keeping the power.
	I'm just trying to be this.
	This is going to be an authoritarian regime.
	I will lead you to the menu.
	I will lead us to the promised land.
	First off, first off, here's what I do.
	The big thing is, big thing.
	Wait, actually, I have a list.
	You have an already written list.
	Is this called Brian Land?
	I'm planning for when I open it.
	World domination.
	Yeah, I'm going to stage a coup d'etat and get rid of the American government.
	Yeah, I'm just going to storm the capital and the government.
	I won't get into that.
	Was that like a serious question?
	Well, no, I just like, because this is I also agree feminism is a man-hating concept, but I also am so proud to be an American, and I love the freedom that I have with my country.
	And if I were back in the 70s, I do think that I would fight for the right to vote.
	I would fight for the right to work.
	I have two jobs.
	I love to work.
	But one day I also want to be a mom and all those things.
	So I think that there is somewhat of a balance.
	Like, I think that the feminist movement did achieve some good things.
	And this is kind of what I'm asking you.
	Do you think that the feminism movement as a whole should have just not happened and it should have stayed, you know, pretty cut and clean, women in the house, men go to work?
	Or do you think that we could have a little bit of improvement?
	So are you talking like throughout history?
	Where do you think the feminist movement should have stopped?
	Well, I mean, you know, even the early suffragettes, first off, they were the early feminist movements.
	If you look up the Seneca Falls Convention or something, in any case, feminists were brutally racist.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, there's just like a.
	That's what I mean.
	It was fucked up from the start.
	I mean, I believe in egalitarianism.
	So true equality between men and women.
	That's not feminism.
	Okay, I agree.
	So I mean, I think.
	I don't agree with egalitarianism.
	You don't agree with egalitarianism.
	Yes, but I'm sorry.
	So would you say you want equity, not equality?
	No, I certainly don't want equity.
	No.
	Equity means playing your role and having it, dividing.
	From my understanding, I could be wrong.
	Equality is like everybody gets exactly the same thing handed to them.
	Equity is everybody gets what's handed to them that works for them specifically based on their identity and intersectionality.
	Well, I'm in favor of equality of what's the term, equality of opportunity, but I'm not in favor of equality of outcome.
	Right.
	Yes, 100%.
	I see what you're saying, yeah, and I agree with you, but what I'm saying is like, would you go more for equity then?
	Because like, say, some, okay, so.
	So is equity equality of outcome?
	Because I'm not in favor of that.
	No, equity is like, okay, so this person has.
	It is about equality of outcome.
	Equity is getting what you need to achieve the same thing as everyone else.
	And that puts us in a communist kind of headspace where people lose their right to or lose the choice to think and dream and do great things and come up with.
	Yeah, I'm not going for communism here at all.
	I just mean like some people are historically more disadvantaged than others based on their identity.
	What identity are you alluding to?
	Let's just go for racism.
	Yeah, like there's clear racism.
	That's not a secret.
	And some people have disadvantages, systematic disadvantages because of that.
	So equity, some men have disadvantages, yeah.
	And all the layers are actually all men.
	All men in this country are systematically discriminated against.
	Okay, it's almost grandma's bedtime.
	Can we please change the subject?
	Yeah, we're going to.
	I mean, if you want, you can leave.
	Like, I don't know.
	I mean, we're just talking about it.
	But let's throw some fun stuff in there.
	Let's lighten it up a little bit.
	A little bit, a little bit.
	Like, what's everybody's kinks?
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Risk.
	Somebody mute her mic.
	Somebody mute her mic for seven minutes so she doesn't bring it back to intersectionality.
	Hey, I'm not going to let you go.
	All right, let me move it on.
	Let me move it on.
	Let me move it on.
	All right.
	So let me see.
	Do we have.
	Thank you, Mark Quavius, for derailing the conversation there.
	Thank you, man.
	Okay, we have Ryan the Eating Warrior.
	Thank you for the 100 men.
	Asian Corner Chick needs to be silent.
	LOL, it's not her show.
	I don't pay 100 bucks to say that.
	No reason.
	Okay, drop a stack right now.
	A stack is $1,000, and I will keep my mouth shut and actually leave the building.
	Wow.
	Oh, okay.
	$1,000.
	I will leave the building.
	And she'll say yes to me.
	Send it through Streamlabs now.
	Yo, by the way, Ryan's a chad.
	Look at that profile picture.
	Like, he's got the fucking beard.
	Yeah, that's totally him.
	The eating warrior.
	Okay.
	What are you eating?
	All right.
	So.
	He's like, I'm vegan.
	All right.
	Why don't we, let me try to bring it back to the fuck did I even?
	Jesus, my penmanship is terrible.
	What does that say?
	Can you read that?
	What did I?
	Oh, Carrie?
	Is that Carrie?
	No, this one right here.
	Bro. Carrie?
	Hello.
	It's because you're left-handed.
	I'm a left-handed girl.
	Scuffed.
	Okay.
	So.
	I know I'm the rant queen, y'all.
	I'm sorry.
	Do women have game?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And you need to be able to do that.
	I want to vouch for her.
	She has some of the craziest game I've ever seen in my life.
	I mean, I'll start with talking about the fact that I also date other women.
	So that does bring in.
	already have a step up yeah you know it's is it do you think it's harder dealing with men or women I think it's completely different.
	And I think it's harder to deal with assholes, but there can be assholes that are men or women.
	Fair enough.
	Okay.
	Who here else thinks they have game?
	I think you need game to keep a relationship.
	Like, how else do you keep it spicy?
	Also, men love conflict.
	So every once in a while.
	What?
	Listen, I'm not saying like, I'm not saying like, let me see her phone.
	Let me see this.
	Why are you talking to her?
	Not that bullshit.
	I'm saying like.
	Jesus Christ.
	You know what?
	It's okay.
	I understand.
	You guys have never had great, amazing, mind-blowing sex.
	It's okay.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	This is my life.
	Oh, my.
	No, women love conflict and drama.
	And I'm going to tell you why.
	I'm going to tell you why.
	So do men.
	And this is going back to the world.
	No, the world is hard enough.
	We don't need drama from you guys.
	The fun stuff.
	What?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	It's so okay to be vanilla.
	Like, I love missionary conflicts.
	Couldn't a girl be.
	A girl can be good in bed and also bring you peace.
	No.
	She should only bring peace.
	But you just said just when I said conflict in a flirty way, y'all can't back me up on this.
	Okay.
	Do you like men all the time?
	Like, it's like that's your best friend.
	Like, that's your best friend.
	That's like, you guys can go like banter back and forth and any girlfriend is not my best friend.
	I have guys that are my best friend.
	My girlfriend is my girlfriend.
	I'm just saying in like a best friend met.
	Okay, so women should not have opinions, I guess.
	That's not what he said, but you said conflict.
	You said conflict.
	Yeah.
	I don't think anyone, man or woman, wants to like a little spice during, you know, like.
	Spice during what?
	During just the relationship.
	Like, if every single day is just the same cycle over and over again, like, that's why men cheat.
	Like, you need a little bit of, like, you need a little bit of, like, even fake, like, fake jealousy or just what you're saying.
	I get a little bit of a check.
	Like, oh my God, look at her.
	It's okay.
	This is the whole, you know, the whole trope that nice guys finish last or whatever.
	The reason why is because think about it.
	We'll say, let's say 200, 300 years ago, you had a girl or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	You went to work.
	If you went to work or you went out, there was a chance you might not come back.
	So the whole time that you're going away from your woman or whatever, she's fucking, her mind's racing.
	There's constant worry or whatever.
	But now we live in a day where there's no worry.
	So women are going to be a little bit more.
	Immediately call someone.
	Yeah, women need that drama.
	That drama isn't great.
	Like, we're not.
	And I think men do too to understand that we care.
	No, no, we don't want to.
	You got to think.
	We are completely opposite.
	You need that.
	I think that you can get the same drive out of having an intelligent conversation that possibly you disagree with.
	Yes, disagreement is important in a relationship.
	Simple.
	I don't think it needs to be, oh my god, did you look at her ass?
	It can be, hey, let's just talk politics.
	Let's agree.
	Let's get mad at each other.
	Let's realize that we love each other and this is why we're together.
	And it's great to disagree and expand each other's brains because I agree.
	If you're dating someone that you're just constantly, oh, I agree.
	Oh, I agree.
	We're peace.
	We're peace.
	It's boring.
	It gets boring.
	Right, but what I'm saying is take away bringing peace.
	Men, we don't think like that.
	We don't want, we don't want, we don't need that.
	Y'all need that drama.
	Y'all need your emotions spiked.
	But you know, that's why you love women, though.
	What?
	That's why you love women.
	Women keep that like zestiness.
	You don't love women?
	You're not hard right now.
	Come on.
	She's like, bringing this fight.
	I'm flabbergasted.
	Oh, I'm not.
	You know, you got a little half ego.
	I think that when you say, like, oh, men aren't interested in that, that's why I'm not interested in most men.
	And then again, this is a dating podcast where we talk about general things.
	But in my opinion, I want to be with someone that I can have good intellectual conversations.
	No, I'm not saying that that's.
	And I think that there are men out there that also value that in a woman.
	So maybe not.
	No, I agree.
	I would love to have great conversations and whatever, but I don't need conflict.
	I don't need to be aware.
	No, not conflict, but disagreeing is.
	No, I don't.
	Why do I need it?
	Why do I need disagree?
	I don't need a disagreement.
	I don't need that.
	Why would anyone need a disagreement?
	Because it's fun.
	You're challenged.
	You're intellectually challenged.
	So it's not necessarily that you can agree to disagree.
	Like, I'm sure a lot of people are telling me to shut the fuck up and I talk too much.
	And that's, I get it.
	I do talk too much.
	But, like, being intellectually challenged and stimulated, if you want to be with somebody for 40, 50 years, bro, you're going to get bored.
	Like, if she's just like, yeah, honey.
	But, like, I mean, you still got to bring in the other.
	Being a man is boring.
	We go to work every day.
	Being a man is boring.
	Life isn't.
	You've never got into a fight with your girl and then like the sex is phenomenal.
	Because you have like some.
	It ain't worth the fight.
	Okay.
	I think the level of life.
	Y'all date toxic dudes.
	Yeah, and I don't do that.
	But the level of.
	I'm saying that.
	Y'all dating bums.
	Y'all dating bums if you want to have that toxic makeup sex bullshit.
	Any guy who's like on his purpose, he's already stressed out enough with his drugs.
	Absolutely.
	And like we said.
	We don't want to have to be in a relationship with a girl that only adds to our stress level.
	She's not saying that.
	She's just saying sprinkle it in.
	I didn't, I didn't.
	No, we don't want sprinkles.
	We don't want to.
	Well, that's what you want.
	And I was like, oh, I mean, why are you next?
	I want vanilla sex.
	Why does it have to be tied about sex?
	Why do y'all always tie about...
	All of that intertwines into...
	Because what is the purpose of a relationship?
	What's wrong with vanilla?
	What is the purpose of?
	Sometimes vanilla is good.
	Vanilla is good.
	But vanilla is good.
	But vanilla is safe.
	Vanilla is safe.
	Really quick on the vanilla thing.
	What's up with the rough sex meta?
	Why y'all wanting to be choked and hid and shit?
	Can't we just like, can I not physically abuse you during sex?
	Would that be so hard to ask?
	Huh?
	He loves.
	Can we not?
	I don't think it's about being like physically abusive during sex.
	I think it's like, I want a man to be assertive and take control.
	And men really, well, some men do, but a lot of men don't.
	Some men like to control.
	You know the men that do?
	What's that?
	Men that have been with a lot of women.
	Brian.
	What?
	Are you a munch?
	Is you a munch?
	Bro, this is such a weird conversation.
	What is a munch?
	A munch is a guy that goes down on girls.
	Oh, you're a hero.
	I don't.
	I don't see that.
	At all?
	I wouldn't support Brian Landon.
	Another one.
	Another one.
	Actually, I would outlaw it.
	Oh, and Brian.
	Well, only for a man.
	You don't have my vote.
	But what about equality?
	Bro, it's different.
	What about equality?
	No, we don't need any of that.
	It's different.
	Anyway, so the purpose of relationship.
	You're asking why does it always go back to sex?
	What's the purpose of a relationship?
	Companionship.
	Procreation, technically, by the way.
	Bro, most of the time I spend with a girl is not having sex.
	No, no, no.
	And it shouldn't be.
	And if it is, that's kinky, but that's not a real relationship at all.
	Sure.
	But the ultimate goal of you establishing this bond with her is so that you could maybe possibly create a family or so you can like do the do with her.
	So but okay, and this kind of so all of that, which is why I'm saying the sprinkles and the to create a whole entire okay.
	I see what you're saying.
	Let me so I'll adjust that.
	So excuse me, I fucking the water went.
	Okay, stop it.
	What the fuck you talking about?
	I'm going to blame it.
	I don't know if it's, um, hold on.
	Stop it.
	What the f-get to my help.
	Who's that towards?
	Eric, you're going to have to hide it.
	So you're saying the sprinkles, right?
	And you're saying, what was the thing you were saying?
	Oh my God, my voice is fucked.
	Hold on.
	I'm done.
	Sorry.
	It's okay.
	It's been a long day.
	It's been a minute.
	Throat's been through a bit today, huh?
	What the fuck?
	Pause and pause.
	He's flustered.
	No, my water got all fucked up.
	Here, I'll come back to that.
	Do you want to go on something?
	I know you want to.
	Oh, you were saying, what'd you say about the purpose of a relationship?
	Like, I think it's what makes a relationship different.
	Not the purpose.
	Yeah, not the purpose.
	No, no, I know what I was going to say.
	So you were talking about being spicy or whatever, blah, blah, blah.
	Like, if I had three, I don't spend a lot of, like, a man should not be spending a lot of time with a woman.
	Right, like, he should be fucking busy.
	Like, and I feel like that, like, you should, yeah, there's no watching.
	My worst relationship was 24-7.
	We're together.
	So, yeah, so.
	That's just coded.
	Right, that's awful.
	So, when you do see that woman or whatever, she's going to be excited to see you.
	There's no you don't need to be bored.
	You don't, yeah.
	But within the few times that you're not.
	Right, you can't.
	It's impossible to get bored if you miss somebody.
	Right.
	So, if a woman misses you, she's never going to get bored of you.
	I can agree with everything you're saying.
	Now, I have this question for everybody.
	Do you guys think that we live in a society now where you personally would live with your partner in the same house?
	Because me personally, if I get married, even then, I think I would want a separate house.
	Not to just always be in, but like just to have my own personal space.
	Yeah, of course I would.
	I would love to.
	I'm 18.
	Me and my boyfriend live together right now.
	So, I'd love it.
	Yeah.
	I would never live with a woman.
	No, we live together.
	I've done it.
	I will say I've done it.
	I enjoy living together, like that whole thought, but I think I would want like two separate houses connected with a bridge.
	That's like my house.
	He can sleep in the guests' house.
	Right.
	But I think that's what I'm doing.
	But we're still close enough in proximity.
	No, I think that for the sake of my family, I would want them growing up with like a traditional image of a mother and father.
	In the same house all the time.
	Oh, yeah, I get it.
	No, I want my man to go off to husband.
	Husbandland.
	How do I say that?
	Yeah, go to husbandland.
	Go for a boy.
	Like, go do your thing.
	And I don't ever see a point in my life where I'm not working unless I have young children to take care of at home.
	But either way, like, I hope that my husband and I spend significant time every day apart from each other.
	Because then you do value the time you spend together.
	But I would hope that I, you know, I wouldn't marry someone that I didn't want to sleep in the same bed.
	Oh, for sure.
	I don't know who here dates women, but y'all are mean.
	So hanging out with y'all for an extended period of time is just taking time.
	Eventually, you're going to be mad about something for no reason at all.
	So you have to limit the time you spend around women because you're saying women get upset for no women for no reason at all.
	I think that men and women have totally different brains.
	And if you talk to men who have been in marriages for a long time, from what I've gathered is they can actually appreciate the way a woman's brain works so differently.
	No, you guys don't get it.
	And we don't get how your brains work.
	We're biologically different.
	No, but men have to empathize.
	We have to get you to date you.
	You don't have to understand us.
	So we understand you, but you don't understand us because you don't have to to date us.
	I don't think that you understand women.
	I think that women can more simply understand men than men understand women because women are crazy.
	Women have, you know, complicated brains.
	And I think that there's validity to that when guys are like, girls are so complicated.
	We can't please them.
	They don't want the nice guy.
	They don't want the mean guy.
	We're complicated creatures.
	It's just how we're made.
	How is it that we don't understand you guys if like our role, like I'm in my relationships, I'm pretty submissive in serving.
	And it's like, if our role is just submissive.
	In my relationships, yeah, but you have to be able to put me in my place.
	You feel me?
	So you're conditionally the entire time.
	Would you say you're feminine in relationships?
	Yeah, very.
	Because I am outside of relationships, like obviously a very outspoken person.
	That has to seep into your relationships.
	I'm not saying that I can't do better and maybe listen more and talk less.
	Like I definitely recognize my faults and all that.
	But to his point, and I have like a lot of room to grow.
	I'm not saying I'm ready to be a full wife or develop.
	But to your point, if we're in that role most of the time, we have to understand you in order to cater to you.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like we have to anticipate your wants and needs like a good wife, in my opinion, would.
	If that's the role you want to be able to do that.
	I'm speaking more empathy, not like empathize with men's issues.
	I want to hear what Rhys has to say on this.
	Reese, what do you got for us?
	Okay.
	Again, on women understanding men and vice versa.
	I feel like in my past relationships, I've had a pretty good understanding of how my partner's brain works because I feel like if I don't understand them, we don't have like a real actual connection.
	Like if we don't understand each other, then what are we doing?
	You know, like when I'm dating someone, I want to have a really deep, genuine connection with this person.
	And it shouldn't matter that we're two different genders.
	We should be able to understand each other, right?
	Or at least like communicate to get to an understanding.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that's what communication is so.
	Do you think that men and women communicate differently?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we're emotion-based.
	I think we tend to use different methods of communication.
	And then it also comes to the point of like, you know, how much experience do you have with communication and how comfortable are you with actually, you know, using efficient methods of communication.
	Yeah, I think in general, girls, correct me if I'm wrong, but when a guy pisses me off, my first instinct, unless we're, you know, extremely close and I feel that I can do this without backlash, like, I want him to figure out what he did wrong.
	And that's just a female thing.
	Oh, I disagree.
	I actually, like, well, actually, I have a tendency if I get really upset with someone, I have a tendency to go quiet, which is a bad habit to have.
	And you want them to know what they did wrong.
	And then eventually they don't understand because we didn't communicate.
	And that's a, I won't say a female flaw.
	It's just a female characteristic.
	We want men to buy us flowers without telling, hey, you want to, or I want you to buy me flowers.
	We want men to open our door without actually saying, hey, I want you to open my door.
	So in the context of a fight, We want the man to know what he did wrong or what he said to piss us off rather than just say it.
	It's like a single thing.
	So I'm willing to say it.
	It's totally different.
	I'm willing to say it though, because if I want to maintain a healthy relationship, I want to have.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry, I did not mean to.
	I was going to give you a ding.
	Oh, thank you.
	Because if I want to maintain a healthy relationship, I want to say, you know, I want to present my issues that I have and what we can do to fix them.
	Because, again, what's the point in suffering and being upset in a relationship?
	Like, why am I going to silently suffer?
	What's that?
	That's why you're toxic.
	I think a lot of that comes with maturity and growth, but I agree with you on a baseline.
	There's a great book, I won't go into depth, but it's called That's Not What I Said, and it talks about how women and men are conditioned differently.
	Women are raised to be communal, men are raised in a hierarchy, and that conditions how we communicate.
	So totally, but to piggyback off what you said, you said you want your general statement.
	A general statement: women in general want men to do things without having to tell them.
	Right.
	So I'm just saying that's why women are awful disciplinarians.
	Hold on just a second.
	Because you don't just say what's wrong.
	No, I think that the way women proves there is a reason why most cultures and religions throughout history had to keep female nature in check via laws or theological doctrine.
	Women don't operate in logic, they operate in emotion.
	Repeal the 19th Amendment.
	Repeal the 19th Amendment.
	Can I say one thing?
	I won't go further.
	Anger is an emotion.
	Men just process through their emotions through anger.
	So yes, women are emotional, but so are men.
	Lovely.
	Yo, 10 out of 10.
	Thank you for the big $200 streamlines donation, man.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	What were you guys talking about?
	So you want a guy to open your door, your car door, and if he doesn't, that's like a deal breaker.
	Breaker force.
	Yeah, for me, that is.
	Is that really a dear me someone?
	Is that really a deal breaker?
	If I don't open the door for you, that's like a deal breaker.
	I think consistency for me.
	Like, if you're going to open doors, always open the door.
	Don't just do it once for first impression.
	That's inconsistent.
	Okay?
	Like, I don't like that.
	Like, in general, it's just like a first impression.
	If I'm with a man, like, if I'm like, say, he wanted to take me on a date or I'm just hanging out with a dude and we go somewhere and like somebody has to open my door, I am not going to walk through the door until he opens it.
	I will stand there and wait and look at him like, are you going to open the door?
	But it's like, if you want us to be feminine, stand in your masculinity.
	Like, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	There you go.
	You know, you want a woman to be submissive and quiet and agreeable, but then you also want her to pay half the check.
	So we need to come to a common ground where it's like, okay, you know what?
	Men are going to be feminine and women are going to be masculine.
	Or we take the step the other way.
	As a man, I'm going to be manly.
	I'm going to do the man thing to do.
	And I expect my woman to follow behind me.
	Etc., et cetera.
	I agree.
	And I think, Brian.
	I think Great Man.
	That's why we all agree.
	Yes, I agree.
	We all agree.
	I always agree.
	This is weird.
	No, I just agree.
	Brian's.
	Damn it, Brian.
	Women can pay for their own food and they can open their own doors and they're not going to be able to do it.
	Oh, yeah, when I'm not with you.
	But man tastes better when no man pays.
	Also, am I giving you my body?
	Am I like, if we're friends and we're going out, hell yeah, we're splitting the bill.
	If we're going out as a group, I hope to split the bill as well.
	But if you're courting me to have further relations with me, going back to procreating, potentially procreating with me, like that's just like one step is like paying the bill.
	Maybe not every single time, but the first like three to five times at least.
	You mean three to five dates?
	Three to five dates.
	Whoa, okay.
	I mean, the thing is that I would say if, on a balance of probabilities, if you look at most women, most women themselves are not moving in a traditional way.
	Correct.
	Job-wise.
	So then don't date most women.
	This is what I was saying the last time I was on.
	You know, you're saying, well, most women are sleeping with other men.
	Most women are doing this.
	Yeah, that's better.
	You're not dating most women in the world.
	Just pick better women.
	You've already said you're on dating apps.
	Why are you on dating apps if you're so against dating apps?
	And you said you're dating dating.
	I'm on the dating apps to recruit.
	It's the reverse finesse.
	Bro, women on dating apps do it for attention.
	They have no intention of actually going on dates.
	They put their Instagram in the thing.
	They put their Venmo.
	They put their Cash App.
	They put their OnlyFans link.
	I'm like the sole guy, the one guy out of the millions of women on dating apps who's doing the reverse finesse.
	No.
	So whatever.
	You're smart.
	And that's not a reverse finesse.
	You're just, that's equal rights.
	I have a question for Brian.
	So.
	What's up?
	No, I will not pay for the first date.
	I actually don't care about that.
	I pay for my own food.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, so just using context clues, not assuming anything.
	Context clue?
	You seem to have been with many women.
	Correct me if I'm wrong.
	More than like 20.
	Like, right?
	Listen, I'm a man of God.
	Okay, okay.
	I'm just asking something.
	So you preach that women should be innocent, should have a low body count, et cetera.
	But then why are you, but you're the one benefiting from women's promiscuity on these apps.
	Well, he already said he doesn't use apps to hook up, but I'm just saying if you're going out with all these girls, you're the one benefiting from women's promiscuity, the very thing you're preaching against.
	So that's where I kind of get a little confused.
	Well, I'm not in favor of promiscuity for men or women.
	I do acknowledge, though, that there is a bit of a difference when it comes to body count, but I don't consider myself particularly promiscuous.
	Like, I don't drink, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't go to parties, I'm not interested in one-night stands.
	If a girl's visiting Santa Barbara, if she's a tourist and she wants to hook up, I'll actually say I'm not interested.
	Oh, good for you.
	A one-time thing doesn't interest me.
	If I want to have sex with a girl, I want there to be a continuity.
	So, like, I'm not trying to run through.
	I'm not trying to fuck three new chicks a week.
	I'm not trying to do that.
	Never was my interest.
	If I wanted and decided that I want to sleep with a girl, I want there to be a continuity.
	I want to continue seeing her.
	Sometimes that leads into a relationship.
	Maybe it's a couple months.
	Maybe it's a couple weeks.
	Maybe that's on her end.
	I've hooked up with girls and they just want something casual and I didn't know.
	And then it was one or two times, and that was it.
	Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you date for marriage.
	No.
	I don't want to get married.
	Michael Nolson, change your mind.
	Should I do a proposal chat?
	Should I propose to someone on this bench?
	How old are you?
	You don't want to get married.
	33.
	Okay.
	You don't even talk to women.
	You can have a partner.
	You can have a girlfriend.
	I feel like the legal aspects.
	Yeah, the issue is that there are legal aspects.
	Yeah, but I mean, no, just to answer your original question, I would not consider myself promiscuous.
	I tend to, I don't have a roster.
	I don't have time for it.
	Because honestly, any guy who's on his purpose, who's working hard, frankly, just from a pure time perspective, will not have time to be fucking multiple chicks.
	That's true.
	Like, if you're actually hustling, you do not have time to fucking begin with.
	Because your work is your relationship to yourself.
	Or I have a problem where men are out here saying women need to be innocent, but they're the ones benefiting off the promiscuity.
	I know I now understand that's about you.
	Men and women want different things, but so we live in a world now where a lot of the women have sex easier and more than men.
	I agree.
	So if that happens, you can't.
	If there's a dude and he's only had sex with four girls and he meets a girl that's had sex with 20 dudes, he's going to be at a disadvantage just in his mind.
	You think that's a lot of emasculating?
	Yeah, like.
	Lack of experience?
	Yeah, like, yeah, the lack.
	You can't be less experienced than your partner.
	Would you use the word insecure in this instance?
	No, no, no.
	It's just.
	I don't think it's insecure to not want to date the town bicycle.
	No, no, I do too.
	But I was just trying to make a point, which I think that you were just purposely not using that word.
	No, no, no.
	This was just the last podcast.
	I used the word insecure and I got freaking jumped on by Brian.
	And, you know, that's what you're alluding to.
	And I did not mean it in a negative sense.
	I just think that if you're a man, with a woman who's been with a lot of people, insecurity is just a human emotion that everyone feels.
	It's a fact.
	You might feel insecure.
	And that's not a bad thing.
	I think it's just a fact.
	So I was wondering, would you use the word insecure in that instance?
	If you were a man with a lower body count than the woman.
	I don't know.
	I've never been to that.
	You know what?
	I am insecure about getting herpes.
	I admit it.
	I'm insecure about not wanting to get an STD.
	I'm insecure about there being a risk of higher divorce because she's had 10, 20, 30, 40 partners before me.
	I'm insecure about her potentially having a greater likelihood of relationship dissatisfaction because she's had so many previous partners.
	I'm insecure because she's probably fried her brain and she's no longer able to pair bond after having 50 previous sexual partners.
	I totally agree with you.
	I'm insecure about all these things.
	I admit it.
	Innocence in women is a virtue, and I totally agree with you.
	Based.
	So, Ella, you have game.
	Eric, pull up her Instagram, not her profile.
	We're going to play a game.
	Do you have your phone on you?
	Oh, damn.
	Here we are.
	Okay, so we're going to pretend like we are on a dating app or you've just slid into my DMs.
	So you have game, you're going to game me.
	You're going to show the Riz.
	I only game women.
	Oh, are you, uh, you're game?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Not by.
	Are you by?
	I wouldn't say by.
	I'm not really sure, but I do generally date women.
	When you say you only game women, you don't pursue men, but you do pursue women.
	Because I generally prefer, I'm generally more attracted to women.
	So those are generally people that I want to.
	Reese, do you have the Riz?
	Oh, boy.
	Maybe.
	Okay, let's try.
	Maybe.
	Let's try.
	Eric Sharp.
	Pull up her Instagram.
	Oh, boy.
	Pull up the chat on it if you know how to do that.
	Let me know when you have it.
	Not shirtfully.
	I mean, it should be one of the recent ones.
	It's called Reese.
	Reesey with the sunglasses.
	I don't know if I have a phone.
	There's a few for this.
	I don't have the most extensive feed.
	Do you have your phone on you?
	Yeah, I do.
	Okay, pull up our conversation.
	Okay.
	Putting me on the spot.
	You got it.
	Do you have it, Eric?
	Okay, pull it up.
	What are we doing?
	Just pull it up.
	What the fuck this is wait.
	Oh shit No, that's the right one, but it's not refreshing.
	I don't know why that's.
	Can you scroll down, Eric?
	Can you refresh here, hide it, and then refresh?
	We're going to play a game.
	Oh, boy.
	You're going to game me.
	Oh, God.
	Sorry.
	I don't know.
	That was like some dragon joke.
	No, though, I don't know.
	That came deep from my chest.
	My bad.
	It's the Riz.
	It's the Riz.
	Yeah, it's coming in.
	I'm warming up here.
	Oh, God.
	Can we all, okay, realistically, if a girl's doing this, she has a couple friends she's like testing it with.
	So are we glad to give her some insight?
	Pathetic.
	Okay, question while we wait.
	What to you is good game from a guy's perspective?
	Because we hear a lot of people.
	I would actually love to know that.
	Can you type something, just say test?
	Men think they have game.
	Actually, I would love to know.
	What do you mean?
	Some dude.
	Please come here and see what's going on.
	Like, what to you is game from a men's perspective?
	Like, oh, I got game.
	Like, how do you approach a woman?
	Oh, great.
	Now I'm getting called phlegm girl.
	Oh, you're asking hard.
	Yeah, like, what do the men do?
	Because, like, we're going to go on the women's side because typically we don't have to speak.
	Eric, can you reload that one?
	While we wait.
	I'd love to hear.
	What's that?
	I said, what to you is good game on a guy's perspective?
	Like, how would you approach a woman while we wait?
	Because we're going to have her do the woman's side.
	How would a guy approach a woman?
	Yeah, like, yeah.
	Because we have a lot of samples.
	Well, I would say that one of the big outcome independent.
	Meaning, like, it doesn't matter.
	One more time.
	What happens?
	I'm just talking to you.
	Like, I don't.
	Okay, there we go.
	Take it or leave it.
	I agree.
	So wait, you never answer the question.
	Like, what do you, like, what do you consider game from women?
	Like, what is like a big green flag and be like, oh, like, game from women?
	Yeah, like.
	Well, living in reality?
	Women that live in reality.
	All right, so pretend.
	Not delusional.
	Here's the scenario.
	We've either just matched on Christian Mingle.
	That's right.
	Or Farmer's Meet.
	I like that one.
	Or you're sliding into my DMs.
	I've actually never slid into someone's face before.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	Run your game.
	Can she phone a friend if she needs to?
	Nope.
	Can I get a minute to think?
	I don't want to sit in silence.
	Come on, babe.
	It's the first word.
	Oh, my goodness.
	We got to go back and forth.
	I can't just start with high with.
	Okay, I guess we're starting with high with two eyes.
	It's like the most basic start ever.
	Wow, you've already failed.
	I know, I've already failed.
	I've already failed.
	That's the bubble starter to it.
	You gotta know it.
	Usually it would be easier for this as an actual person, and then I could go off the vibe I get from their feet.
	Okay, go.
	I just, that's all I did.
	Most girls would not even do this.
	You gotta say hi, cutie.
	Hi, cutie.
	I don't know how to echo you on the spot.
	You're making me feel like I guess you're playing the dude and I'm playing the chick.
	I'm playing the dude.
	Is it fair to say that this is like this weird alternate reality that I don't care to partake in?
	I've literally never said yes to a date through like Instagram DMs.
	If someone's hitting on me, it's probably.
	It's not about you.
	Don't worry about it.
	Go ahead, Rhys.
	God.
	See, all I can think about right now is the bots that request me on my Instagram DMs asking me to paint me like as a mural or like being my sugar baby.
	That's the only like game I can think of.
	If this was a conversation in person, you've basically been standing here looking at me for a minute uncomfortably.
	Imagine you're approaching me in person, so I need like quit, quit, quick.
	Oh my god.
	I don't know.
	You might have to pick someone else.
	We matched on the dating app.
	We matched on a dating app.
	Phone a friend.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	Phone a friend.
	I'm that friend.
	You phone.
	Are the bubbles up?
	Probably.
	I'm typing.
	I'm just thinking.
	Come on, girl.
	You got it.
	You're representing all of us.
	Do I have like a fail noise?
	I'm still, I'm typing.
	I'm typing.
	Can I do it?
	I'm not impressed by your performance.
	Oh boy.
	I can already tell that I don't like you.
	Fuck.
	I would just send a GIF at this point if you don't know what to do.
	I might have to give up.
	I'm so sorry to have wasted your time.
	Who was next?
	Or she could have responded to a story, right?
	Just send a thirst trap, girl.
	Just like something sexy.
	I don't see that.
	You could send a dick pic.
	She doesn't.
	Okay.
	Are there any women here who would actually be very interested in receiving a dick pic from a random person?
	Because I'm not one of those girls.
	You know what?
	I'd be down to receive pussy pic.
	I'm sure.
	I invite it.
	Send it to me.
	Because randomly visualizing.
	You receive this photo then you ask her on a date.
	That's very kind of you.
	That's a very kind gesture.
	That's the one I want to be with.
	That's the pussy I want.
	I know.
	I'm just like, oh, I want a girl to send me this or hit me up.
	And then it's like, but that's not the girl you want to date.
	So what do you want to say?
	Are we hiding it a little bit?
	Yeah, I will say with the sliding into the DMs, is she trying to fuck or is she trying to date you?
	Like relationship?
	Because that's two different things.
	Like two different things.
	That was erroneous.
	Every girl I've ever dated, I've had sex with on the first date.
	Well, maybe that's why you haven't wiped any of them up yet.
	Oh, I have.
	That's true.
	No, like you're not married to anyone.
	It's okay, Rhys.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It's too late, Rhys.
	I think I've missed my opportunity.
	Yeah, just you can put your funnel in on.
	I might just have to delete my entire account at this point.
	I hadn't thought about that.
	How's it going?
	How's your date?
	Oh, here we go.
	How's it hitting?
	No, he's already removed it from the screen.
	Are you typing still?
	Yeah.
	Okay, Eric, pull it back up.
	All right.
	All right.
	We'll give her a second shot.
	Why don't you guys imitate a phone call?
	That's like the best I got.
	I'm not going to let your performance.
	How's your dating?
	I'm not either.
	I'd love to.
	I don't know.
	I don't know who it is.
	Are you selling it?
	Are you celibate or are you selling it, honey?
	Yo, I want to ask the ladies really quick.
	If a guy said this to you off rip, how do you answer?
	You don't.
	I would absolutely do it.
	No, no, no.
	Because if he's, it depends, because if he would say, I would love to take you out to dinner, then I'd be like, I'm interested.
	But then if he would just, you know, send me a dick pic, then he's getting blocked.
	It just depends where he's going.
	Yeah, no dick pic.
	What about you?
	Pussy pics are cool, though.
	Pussy pics are okay.
	Honestly, like, let's keep it a whole stack.
	You're going to look at his profile and you're going to make a snap judgment.
	And if you feel like you're attracted to them, then you're going to respond.
	If you're not attracted to them, you're not going to respond because you can't get a good impression.
	It's the same with dating apps.
	You swipe left or right.
	And you can't get a good impression of a real whole person off of one message.
	But you're more inclined to respond if you're attracted to them.
	Okay, so this brings me, let me do one super chat, and this will bring me to my next point.
	So first, let me just get this.
	Did I read this one?
	No.
	El Emirati.
	Thank you for the 100, I believe British pounds.
	Yeah.
	Yo, feminism is white supremacy for women.
	White women rarely stand up for women of color.
	First wave feminism was only formed because white women don't want black men to get voting rights before them.
	Are these women more oppressed than, say, Native American men or black men?
	White women?
	No.
	No, white women are the least.
	The least.
	Thank you, El Emirati.
	I think that was your first super chat.
	I appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	We also have one, I believe, here.
	Wait, no, we don't.
	Did we do?
	Wait.
	This one came through as a TTS, right?
	Oh.
	Whoops.
	10 out of 10, $199.
	I triggered it again.
	What should modern women prove?
	Oops.
	Didn't mean to trigger that again.
	My bad.
	Okay, so the question is, I'm going to wait for Sandy here to come back.
	Uh-oh.
	Yo, Frankie Kay, good to see you, man.
	By the way, oh, just a reminder for anyone who's kind of tuning in, we bumped up the TTS trigger and the read trigger.
	So read is 100.
	TTS is 200.
	Sandy is puffing on her vape.
	Sandy, aren't you a nurse?
	Sandy.
	Wait, what the f- Sarah?
	Susan.
	Susan, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I am so sad.
	I'll pay for your McDonald's on the day to take your to make up for it.
	You're a nurse and you vape?
	I have no game.
	Oh, I do.
	Yeah, I do.
	Do you smoke cigarettes?
	I quit.
	You used to.
	I'm human.
	Like, if you stab me, I will bleed.
	Okay?
	Oh, thank you for explaining that.
	Yes.
	Reese, are you still trying to game me up or what's up?
	No, I'm watching.
	There's this influx of Instagram DMs coming towards me now, asking to work on my game and to practice with that.
	People actually really.
	Yeah, people want me to practice my game with them, which I honestly could do.
	But to be fair, like game in person is a lot different than like cuts to the game.
	Tell you what.
	Game me right now.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, I already failed the first time.
	You want me to embarrass myself again?
	It should be way easier.
	Oh, God.
	Okay.
	Oh, God.
	All right.
	So me, here, I'm a girl.
	You're a guy.
	Oh, I'm a girl.
	I'm Brianna.
	I'm here with Raquina?
	Raquina.
	Okay.
	By the way, remind me that we need to talk about the pimp stuff.
	Remind you.
	For sure.
	Okay.
	So, go ahead.
	That's funny.
	I leak plastic.
	Yes.
	Where are we?
	Oh, my God.
	We're at a party.
	Usually these interactions happen at parties.
	At a party.
	At parties.
	So.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, the DJ is so good.
	Oh, my TikToks.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, super cute.
	I love your shoes.
	Thank you.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, I just got my nails done.
	Oh, my God.
	Hey, red flannel.
	What the hell?
	Hi.
	Oh, girl, he's talking to you.
	Hi.
	I was just wondering, it was okay if I talked to you.
	I saw you from across the room, and I just couldn't stop looking at you.
	Lane.
	Would you like to tell me your name?
	Brianna.
	Pretty like I'm kissing the top of your hand.
	Oh, so nice to meet you, Brianna.
	I'm Chad.
	Hi, Chad.
	You're Chad, so you come around here a lot?
	I go to school here.
	You go to school here.
	You go to school here.
	Yeah.
	Oh, so you're smart then?
	I'm a calm major.
	You're a calm major.
	So you're good at communicating.
	Is that what?
	Oh, wait.
	I guess.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	One more time.
	I just.
	I guess.
	I like to talk to my girlfriends about.
	Someone seems a little flustered.
	Excuse me?
	I said someone seems a little flustered.
	No, I just think you're weird.
	Oh.
	That seems like it'd be the end of the conversation then.
	We have to go to the bathroom.
	Yeah, we have to go to the bathroom.
	We have to go to the other bathroom.
	I'll see you later.
	Thank you.
	I portrayed women a little unfairly.
	To be fair, I'm not using it.
	I think that girls give it a little bit more than that.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I could not do what men do at all.
	It takes a lot of courage to walk up to a woman and just start a conversation.
	And like, I mean, like you said, the way you go about it is just like talking to them with no outcome in mind and just talking to them like a person and like see what happens.
	Yeah, it grows right.
	I've been rejecting it.
	Yeah, but that's so scary.
	That's so scary.
	I would not even rejection.
	Rejection therapy is something that everyone should use.
	Focus reasons.
	Focus.
	I thought you went to the bathroom right when this conversation was over.
	Just know it.
	I'll be more favorable.
	Even knowing men.
	But just to be clear, like women will blank dudes like that.
	Women will blank one-word answers.
	Then why do you want to pursue it?
	That's the thing.
	If the woman's giving a blank word answer, they probably don't want to be talking to you.
	So this would be a lot easier if you were giving me something to work with.
	But there are some ways to do that.
	You need to kiss his hand, though.
	I did kiss your hand.
	You wouldn't have dead.
	No, I like it.
	I like a little bit of chivalry.
	Like, I still can't a little bit.
	Chivalry is dead.
	I know.
	That is B2.
	You B2.
	No.
	I don't.
	I don't.
	Okay, once more.
	I'll be more favorable.
	Oh boy.
	Oh.
	All right.
	I feel like I already used my.
	All right.
	Let's.
	Let's go back to the conversation.
	Yeah, I feel like we're done with the role playing.
	Sorry.
	There was an attempt, an attempt, man.
	Okay, so kind of related to that, do women agree or disagree with the following statement?
	Women have dating on easy mode.
	What does that mean?
	What does that mean, Brian?
	No.
	Women have dating on easy mode.
	Agree or disagree?
	That we don't have to do as much to get a date?
	Can you be just a little bit before dating or during dating or after dating?
	I mean, it's kind of just a general question, I would say.
	Then I would have to say that.
	Too general to answer.
	Yeah, because what?
	Compared to men, how about that?
	Does that make it easier?
	No, before, during, or after?
	Agree.
	Agree.
	Do women have dating easier than men?
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	You get, like, there are downsides to being a woman for sure and being in that atmosphere, but like, you should be, in my opinion, you should be a little bit courted and you get approached.
	Men have to really work and like they have to be like reach a certain status themselves and like have a certain like, you know, most women will like reject them if like they don't have a good job or like they don't look a certain way or like they're not tall enough and whatever.
	Women, you just have to be a woman and like somebody is going to find you attractive and you're the one getting approached 99% of the time.
	And if you were to go and approach a man, you're most likely going to get some type of interest.
	Yeah?
	Damn.
	There's this interesting.
	What's on your side?
	Fuck.
	How does it go?
	Did someone just fart?
	No, that was my knuckles.
	Oh my God.
	What the frick?
	You made me nervous.
	Somebody fart.
	Natural.
	Come back to me.
	Do you want to tell us something?
	Come back to me.
	Do men or women have dating easier?
	It depends on who you talk to.
	I find it hard.
	I hard filter before.
	Like, if I see a gym pick, I'm probably going to be like, no, because that's like, I am into fitness.
	Obviously, it doesn't look like I work out right now because I haven't.
	But I can't do a gym rat.
	I'm sorry.
	That's just my personal preference.
	I'm not a huge muscle.
	Get off your back page thing.
	I asked you to skip me so I could look up something really, really quick.
	Oh, you're looking something that's related to that.
	Sorry.
	I mean, I just go through a filtering process.
	Tell us your standards.
	Why don't you start off there?
	How tall are you?
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'5.
	Minimum height for the guy.
	I prefer taller, like weight.
	six three um i mean the thing is that's not really i don't really go for appearance first thing You don't?
	No.
	You sure?
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, seriously, I don't.
	I'm sorry.
	i'm not shallow how like you know what's your type go for like what's your type Huh?
	What's your type?
	If you just had to fire off like a couple physical traits, personality traits.
	What's your type?
	Well, my type is someone that has their stuff together now.
	Into the mic, closer, closer.
	Someone that has their life together, right?
	Because that's just at my phase right now.
	You're a nurse.
	Right.
	How much do you make?
	I don't know.
	A year.
	I don't know.
	Six figures, though.
	I have no idea.
	Oh, I have no idea.
	You make six figures?
	We're not going to talk expenses, but I don't know.
	Do you feel that you're compensated properly for what you do?
	Yes, because I love what I do.
	Yeah.
	So does that mean you're okay with settling for less money?
	I think the nurses are entirely underpaid.
	So I'm just trying to feel like are you not saying because nurses are compensated pretty well.
	Okay.
	So you're on the high end of things.
	I'm pretty.
	I mean, I can't complain.
	I loved my career, so I didn't make a bad choice.
	Did you make a bunch of money in Dogecoin, too?
	I lost money in Dogecoin, so I'm not good with the crypto.
	And then I had Voyager, which belly upped.
	Fit check, by the way.
	Did you think I was looking up someone on back pages or I was on my back pages?
	Do you actually have back pages?
	I don't.
	Isn't that a thing for prostitution?
	Yeah, that's like they got rid of it.
	Oh, that's no, they still have it.
	Back page?
	Yes, I've seen vans like outside of most like Runyon Canyon, Hollywood.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they have like vans that have whatever.
	Okay, so you want to hire insurance.
	Does he have to make as much as you or more?
	I would prefer someone that makes more.
	Because I like to be like wined and dined, like treated like a princess.
	I don't drink, actually.
	I like being treated like a princess.
	I want to make my own money, but I want you to be able to take me out.
	Wait, so, but do you make six figures?
	I don't know.
	I don't question that.
	I'm a new nurse.
	Oh, you.
	I don't have enough of the.
	Closer to the mic.
	I don't have enough of like time.
	Yeah.
	I'm still a new, like, just.
	Well, nurses make good money, but I'm comfortable, but I would like to put it.
	Do you have your own place?
	Huh?
	You have your own place?
	No.
	Certain things.
	Do you live with your parents?
	No.
	Certain things just, yeah.
	I would like a little bit more because I'm not the type of person that likes to stay stagnant.
	Like I'm not.
	So are you a travel nurse?
	I'm not a travel nurse, but I'm constantly trying to like evolve and do different things.
	Wait, so you're a princess?
	Yes.
	You're princess.
	And you've never.
	So I have to make enough money to spoil myself and my dog.
	And then, you know, that's number one, right?
	And then bills and etc.
	Okay.
	So Rhys, get off your phone.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	So.
	You're a princess.
	Yeah.
	But I like hustling too.
	Like, I love working, but I have to love where I work and what I do.
	And luckily, I've been able to find that.
	But I like being able to do different things, you know, and kind of grow as a person.
	Like, I want to be a business owner.
	Have you ever paid for a guy on a date?
	Ever?
	Yeah, I mean, I don't mind spending money on people, but I will friend zone them.
	Because I want my man to take care of me.
	That's just my preference.
	You know, I will just friend zone you.
	Which is totally fine.
	But have you ever paid for a guy on a date with the interest of continuing the relationship?
	Like, if they were to ask me on a date, and would I pay for that?
	Whatever the scenario is, have you ever paid for a guy on a date, first date, and wanted to continue seeing him?
	No, but like, if I were to have a boyfriend, I would spoil them.
	Like, I will buy things for them.
	But no, I don't think that I've ever gone on a date where I've had to go Dutch.
	I'll pay for myself if I already am not interested in you.
	I will fork out my money and go.
	So it's like, I don't feel bad that I'm not.
	Are you doing good, Greece?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know where your friend is.
	Is she still here?
	She went out the door.
	She went out the door, I think.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I was just going to go try and look for her.
	everything okay i think that's a just going to try and look for What the fuck?
	That's rude.
	Hello?
	Is it a Frank Castle self-castle?
	I'm just going to go and try and look for her.
	Let's just let that be.
	I don't know if they're coming back.
	That's fucking weird.
	I think that you have a great point.
	I think that I want to make enough money to where I can spoil the man that I'm with.
	And I think that I want to be with a man that spoils me more.
	So I think it's a mutual thing.
	Again, I love to work.
	So I hope that I'll always have a job.
	I want to be a business owner.
	I want to have passive income.
	So either way, I do want to be contributing to our household.
	But yeah, I want a man that makes it a lot better.
	Somebody said in the comments, her money is her money and his money is our money.
	And honestly, like, I don't mean it, like, in a money-sucking way.
	Like, give me all your money, but it's...
	That's the mentality I'm looking for in a man.
	That's the mentality I'm looking for in a man.
	Yeah, that's, and going back to, we were mentioning about, like, multiple wives, Islam culture, like, that's the premises.
	It doesn't work like that.
	No, no, it is a basis of that.
	Absolutely, it is.
	That's why they have multiple wives and stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	I see what you're saying.
	I see what you're saying.
	The way that I was looking at it, when I say like the man says, like, this is our money, you know, unless he's like unfathomably wealthy, then he probably can't be providing for several women at a time.
	Like, watch our generation's never going to be able to buy a house.
	So how do we expect a man to like pay for it?
	I thought you're going to have two houses.
	I hope so.
	In fantasyland, right?
	Like, we're already going to have two.
	Me and him are going to have two houses.
	Him and I. Us.
	Oh.
	Honestly.
	Can I ever let a woman pay on a date?
	Can I ask?
	Absolutely.
	Did you say you did corn?
	Yeah.
	So you never did girl and girl scenes?
	No.
	Okay.
	Let's talk about pimping.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh.
	Can we finish that just real quick?
	I would love to talk about that.
	To go back to when you asked me if I supported the LGBTQ.
	That's something I have struggled with myself is my sexuality.
	And that's something that I have.
	I had to really dig deep on my childhood trauma and everything like that.
	And that's still something that I struggle with today is getting out of my masculine form is like when I feel like I want a woman.
	And that's something that I deal with today still.
	So are you saying you would want women?
	No, no.
	So you didn't know.
	No, I wouldn't.
	And that's fine.
	But when you see women together or men together, are you not going to want to do that?
	I don't, I'm, no, I don't like make it a problem or anything.
	I respect everybody, what they want to do.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Mainly for lesbians and gays, but like the whole transgender thing and everything like that, like that's where it gets a little crazy overboard for me.
	Okay, let's talk about your pimp.
	Okay, so you had a pimp.
	You used to do sex work.
	Yeah.
	How many tricks have you had?
	I can't answer that.
	Like hundreds, thousands?
	I would say hundreds.
	I wouldn't say thousands.
	Just said yes.
	Okay.
	And from what age to what age were you doing that?
	18 to now.
	Oh, okay.
	So still sort of doing it a little bit.
	Just like, just like one, maybe two.
	Okay.
	Not necessarily, not sexual all the time, but definitely using them for their money.
	So you were, what's the term?
	Finesse?
	Did you do the finesse?
	Did you finesse like a hustler?
	I mean, like you'd hustle these guys.
	Like in the stripper sense, you do have to have that mentality because like you're paying to be at this club and you're paying to work there to make this money.
	So you do have to finesse men to make money at your job.
	Yeah, I've done that on that article.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Any cra what do you have like the most craziest sex worker pimp situation that ever happened?
	No, not.
	Can I ask you a question?
	What's up?
	What's the most money you ever spent on a girl?
	The most money I've ever spent on a girl?
	The most money I've ever spent on a girl.
	No more than 100, I think.
	I've spent like at least like $1,500 on a guy before.
	No more than $100.
	Wow.
	In total, Brian?
	It's so depressing.
	Yeah, I'm not really like...
	What's your Roth IRA look like?
	I hope it's like full.
	Like, you better be doing the maximum.
	Because you're saving a lot of money, my friend.
	I will tell you this.
	Throughout the years, and listen, I want my super chatters.
	I want my super chatters to be confident in me knowing that their contributions, their patronage to my channel is not somehow benefiting.
	It's getting political, I feel.
	It's not benefiting politics.
	Well, okay, before this channel, then no, I mean, throughout.
	You know, maybe I think I've treated a girlfriend to hibachi.
	That's nice.
	You know, 30, 40 bucks each.
	You know, I'm a generous guy.
	I'm really money isn't everything to me.
	I don't think everything should be based upon money.
	Like, I know what I do for a living, but that's something that I chose to do because of the, you know, the card life gave me.
	I had a not so good childhood, and this is just what I decided to do.
	Yeah, I'll also add to that.
	Of all the dates I've been on, I'd say the vast majority of them split the check.
	I've split the check on the vast majority of dates.
	I've maybe paid a couple times.
	Do you get returning women?
	Oh, I lose women.
	You lose them.
	I lose women.
	Some of them come back.
	Some of them stick around and keep.
	What percentage?
	What percentage?
	Yeah.
	Well, I want to say first dates, I mean, it varies at what point, because sometimes you have like a rough patch.
	Other times you're hidden on all cylinders, you're doing good.
	But first dates, Honestly, I'd say one-fourth of first dates will go further.
	That's fair.
	I think that's a good, that's a good idea.
	That could happen.
	That ratio can happen if you're even paying the business.
	Even if you're paying for the date, which is exactly why I don't pay, because the likelihood of any given date going anywhere anyways is so greatly diminished for a variety of reasons, chiefly that women have way more options now.
	There's dating apps, there's social media.
	Whereas back in the day, if you went on a date, like back in the day, maybe you went on three dates, then you had a wife.
	Motherfuckers be out here going on six, seven dates a week and shit.
	Yeah, people aren't getting married anymore.
	People do you go out with like bad bitches?
	Like, what's your type?
	I like nerdy STEM chicks who study STEM.
	Oh, STEM, like science, technology, engineering, math.
	I like smart girls.
	Yeah, smart kind of shy.
	I consider myself more introverted, so I like introverted girls.
	I like shy girls.
	It's an interesting career path to have for an introvert.
	I suppose so.
	Quick question.
	how much maybe that's why what's the largest amount of money you've spent on just yourself So is it about spoiling other people or do you not spoil yourself?
	I don't really spend a whole bunch on my honestly, I don't really go on vacations much.
	I probably should because I'm kind of a stress case.
	I'll get professional massages occasionally.
	But yeah, I don't really, you know, I'm not really into consumerism all that much.
	So I've been driving the same car that I've driven since 2012.
	I bought a Toyota.
	I don't need a fancy car.
	I don't wear a watch.
	I wear the same clothes.
	I wear sweatpants from Costco.
	I just buy that in bulk.
	Puma, let's go.
	Get me the sponsorship.
	I wear black, like $5, $10 t-shirts from Kohl's.
	Yeah, if you're just a frugal guy in general, I think that's okay.
	Instead of like, yeah, I'm a ball out, but not on these bitches.
	Come on.
	If you're just frugal in general and that's who you are, I think that's perfectly acceptable.
	You don't be with somebody that's very materialized.
	I've been looking, though, for a girl who I'm down to like, for example, if I want to go to Hawaii, I'm trying to go to Hawaii in like three weeks.
	Yeah.
	I'm looking, just saying.
	But in that scenario, like if it was my girlfriend, right?
	And let's say she's a bit younger than me, you know, I'm obviously going to be out.
	Well, I'm going to be out earning her.
	Under those circumstances, like I just, and I want to go to Hawaii, I want her to come with me.
	I'll pay for the trip.
	That's fine.
	That's more than $150, honey.
	Well, I've not, I haven't taken a girl on vacation.
	Is it fair to say, though, that you wouldn't like a girl that would expect you to pay for the trip no matter what, just because of like you're the man?
	Or do you feel like it is more masculine in your role to take care of your woman?
	If she's traditional, then I would accept those expectations.
	But if she's promiscuous and has a high body count and is not particularly feminine and has like, no, we're not going to pick and choose when you get traditional benefits from me.
	If you are more traditional woman, or at the very least, so long as you're feminine and you bring me peace, under those circumstances, I'm much more willing to provide, fall into the provider role.
	But I find it very difficult for me to fall into the provider role because I, frankly, most of the women I encounter, I don't really, they don't strike me as traditional women.
	Where are you meeting your, This is what I want to ask.
	If one day, I know you don't want to get married, but you do want or would be open to having a life partner.
	Like, why are you in Santa Barbara?
	I feel like there's no culture in California, and I feel like there's definitely not a healthy dating culture or anything that promotes marriage.
	Japan, let's go.
	Well, I mean, you're a girl, man.
	Like, why are you still here?
	I mean, my business is here.
	Well, I mean, first, I grew up in Santa Barbara.
	I love Santa Barbara.
	My business is here.
	I don't know if I'm going to be like a passport bro, but like it's tempting.
	It's definitely tempting.
	I mean, we got time.
	But California's failed society.
	That's it.
	For me, we have time.
	For what?
	He has time.
	He doesn't have a biological clock, so he can just do his business and make his money in the middle of the day.
	I mean, but as we already established, you know, your goal demographic is young 20s.
	And as you grow older, you've already said, not today, but you've already said you're in a position where you could take care of someone.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I could have a stay-at-home life if I was so inclined.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I could take care of everything.
	I mean, you're at the age where you're not going to grow in looks.
	So you don't have a biological clock when it comes to kids.
	Yeah, I peaked at like 23 in that department.
	Can we see pictures of little Brian?
	I don't know if we want to pull up my Instagram.
	Do it.
	Real quick, I don't have an OnlyFans.
	I would do if the only one, though.
	No, I really, I really honestly don't.
	I do Twitch streaming, auntie underscore blazer.
	Boop.
	So continue.
	By the way, can you swap with the weakest chair?
	Yeah, just take that chair because I don't know if she's going to be able to do that.
	Yes.
	So what was your question?
	Was that it?
	Why California?
	Yeah, why are you still here?
	I didn't realize you grew up here.
	For whatever reason, I thought you were.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
	All my everything I have is here in California.
	No.
	Did you go to school?
	Sort of.
	Well, I think school is a scam, so that wasn't supposed to be like a dismissive question.
	I was just wondering.
	Did you leave state to go to school?
	No, I stayed here.
	I'm not going to disclose exactly where.
	I did go to Santa Barbara City College, then elsewhere, but I don't want to disclose on that.
	Wait, what happened?
	I switched chairs because mine was so squeaky.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay.
	And then homegirl.
	Gotcha.
	Can you put that microphone on the ground?
	Wait, why did you move?
	Wait, can you?
	No, you know you stay here.
	I just wanted her in a different chair because that other one was fucking squeaky.
	Can we still be spread off?
	Yeah, can you just put that microphone on the ground?
	Like behind you?
	What's up?
	Scuffed, by the way.
	Scuffed.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me.
	Did you see that comment?
	I didn't see it, but I'll actually read a couple comments now.
	I saw that comment.
	That was funny.
	Yeah, I mean, I definitely think it's hard in California.
	I think California...
	What?
	Seven.
	Seven.
	Yeah, I think California is not great because it's I'm not like super hardcore conservative either, but like, yeah, I mean, there is a huge.
	Clearly not.
	There is a hookup culture.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I don't even know where I lean politically, honestly.
	Sometimes I say I'm kind of like center left.
	Sometimes I think I'm like center right.
	I don't really know.
	In any case, yeah, there's like we're two hours north of LA.
	There's a major hookup culture.
	So.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think everything in LA is literally like the devil and Hollywood and all that stuff.
	It's just not horrible.
	And I think it's seeped into our culture.
	Sure.
	Let me get these super chats.
	Yo, Frankie K, thank you for the 100 man.
	Appreciate it.
	When men are concerned with your body count, it's not due to insecurity.
	Men are more concerned that your oxytocin receptors have become so Desensitized that you can't effectively pair bond, and that you're so focused with emotional validation that you'd give your body to anybody.
	Yo, Frankie Kay, thank you for that $100 soup chat, man.
	We will talk, excuse me, we will talk about body count here in a moment.
	And then we had one that came through here that I'll get.
	Brian, your wife is sitting to your left in red, stopping an idiot, and put her on lockdown.
	She will definitely go to Hawaii with you.
	I love Maui, but Brian won't open my door.
	I have respect for Brian.
	I love a man who's about his hustle, but Brian won't open my door.
	Maybe we can attend each other's wedding.
	Oh, you're not getting married.
	Yeah, I'll attend my daughter.
	You're not going to attend my wedding.
	She's traditional.
	She's what you're asking about.
	Sorry, she's traditional.
	She's what you kind of like look at.
	But even he said he just doesn't, you know, but maybe that would bring out the little benefits.
	That's why men that are married are if you went off those little data corners perfect, checked every box, like 21 years old virgin.
	Would you, would you marry her?
	That's tempting.
	That's tempting.
	Possibly.
	Brian, are you scared that she's going to take all your money?
	Is that why you don't want to get married?
	I mean, there's a financial component.
	There's a financial component.
	We're talking about prenatal.
	Prenup, sir.
	I believe in prenups.
	Okay, why is a prenup bullshit?
	Because if they get thrown out, they can get thrown out.
	They can get thrown out.
	If you cheat on her, it could get thrown out, right?
	I just, there's no, I don't.
	I would, like, I would security.
	It's marriage is security.
	You need to secure that.
	So I would never sign a prenup because I don't believe in divorce.
	What if you divorced you?
	Somebody can divorce you.
	Somebody can leave you.
	People are going to be able to do that.
	Probably not going into the marriage with more money, and that's why I would never stop working.
	That's why it's important to me to have passive income at a young age and make smart decisions and put myself in a good spot.
	Yeah, for sure.
	But you can't control every factor in life.
	And a prenup protects a woman as well, not just the man's money or your like if you're a marriage.
	Well, in California, you want to buy type women an insane amount.
	Like, literally, if you're a woman, you get divorced in California, you're going to be just fine.
	Well, I'll just say this.
	I was at court once.
	It was a litigation thing.
	I'm not going to get into it.
	A couple times.
	And before my case was called, it was a divorce case that involved children.
	And it was the most brutally depressing thing I listened to.
	Sitting there at the Santa Barbara courthouse for 30 minutes listening to these two argue about finances and the custody of the children.
	And I'm like, these people probably didn't imagine being in this situation when they got married.
	And so is somebody's phone going off?
	Sorry, it's my watch.
	I'm going to do not disturb, but it's my watch is going off.
	I'm so sorry.
	I hear what you're saying.
	Divorce court is the worst possible thing.
	I think that's a good thing.
	Your dad's a lawyer, right?
	What kind of daughter?
	He's a bankruptcy attorney.
	Bankruptcy attack.
	So somehow even more depressing.
	No, no, not more depressing.
	But my parents had an awful, awful divorce.
	It took years to actually get divorced.
	And my dad is remarried to someone who also did not necessarily have a cordial divorce.
	And so I've seen the ins and outs of divorce court, and it's awful.
	And that's why marriage is a big thing.
	Marriage is not like a pastime.
	Are you Catholic?
	My mom is.
	My dad's Jewish.
	What are you?
	Jewish.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, I was brought up Jewish.
	Well, I know, I know.
	I don't know what it is.
	I was baptized, though.
	I'm kind of, you know, I'm not necessarily religious.
	I do consider myself spiritual.
	I don't think the Jews would claim me.
	Because you said you don't believe in divorce.
	And I've heard that among for Catholics, that that's like no good.
	I just would never do that to my children.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So you would stay with somebody who's dissatisfying you or making you really depressed or they change as a person and blah, blah, blah, and making your children more.
	Once you become a mother, I think your children's needs prior to your own needs.
	Absolutely, but does that mean that they'll see a rotting marriage in front of them and then that's their standard?
	I don't believe in bad marriages either.
	No, I'm just saying.
	So I love that.
	I love that.
	I like believe in manifesting and I am manifesting nothing but a perfect marriage because I want to demonstrate to my children what love looks like.
	I want them to see a healthy marriage and that's why I'm very picky with who I go out with.
	I'm very picky with who I would decide to date and I'd be very picky with who I would decide to marry.
	Weren't you just in a situationship?
	No.
	Recently?
	Didn't you say you were in the situationship or dating around a bit?
	Oh, yeah, like I'll go on dates here and there.
	But because, you know, if someone says, hey, Lindsay, I think you're really cute.
	Let me take you on a date.
	And if he's, yeah, if he says it like that, I'm sure, I'll go on a date with you.
	And it took two dates for me to just say, hey, I don't think this is like, I don't see a future.
	I'm not going to waste his time.
	I'm not going to waste my time.
	So I have.
	Make it really quick.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I was just going to say, I know you're going to say you're going to be selective with your husband, but like, I tend to agree with you that relationships can get worked out.
	But like, I was a child of divorce as well.
	And like, bottom, like, bottom line is my dad was very emotionally abusive.
	And it was, I was very relieved when they got divorced because I wasn't in a good home environment part of the time.
	And it caused a lot of like emotional strife and issues like with me and my family.
	So it's like, I would say there's like exceptions and like that blanket statement.
	Like you can think you're picking the right person and then that person can change.
	I think that my original statement was silly and I choose to revoke that.
	I believe in my parents got divorced and I'm glad they did.
	They had a horrible not loving marriage and it benefited my older brother, my older sister, and I for them to get divorced.
	It was not pretty.
	It was not awesome.
	And so that's good that I respect.
	That is, you know, not going into marriage.
	I am not going into marriage thinking, well, I can divorce him if it doesn't work out.
	Here we go.
	She's the victim now.
	Okay.
	Stiffler, ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Here we go.
	We're going to start with you.
	Go ahead.
	I'm not going to.
	I'm going to pass on this.
	No pass.
	No, no pass.
	No.
	I feel like I'm going to, you know, purely look.
	I'm going to make up and I'm like, what the F?
	You know, I'm like, how can I be this?
	Closer.
	We're closer and closer, closer.
	No, like, it just really depends on the day.
	I think that I'm okay, but I have to give thanks to makeup and also my plastic surgeon.
	Dr. Calvert.
	Thank you.
	Oh, shout out, Dr. Calvert.
	Calvert.
	Shout out.
	Yeah, no.
	What do you have?
	What do you have done, by the way?
	My boobs, and then I have fillers and Botox.
	No, yeah, these are natural.
	I'm just kidding.
	Is your nose?
	No, not lipo.
	I just got boobs when I graduated nursing school.
	So recently?
	Did you get a discount?
	2019.
	2019.
	That's a little graduation gift.
	It was, yeah.
	Love that.
	Did your sugar daddy.
	No.
	You graduated nursing school.
	She's good.
	Nurses off bat, they could make up to hard kids.
	You have financing options as well, but then yeah.
	What?
	Your nose is perfect.
	Is your nose real?
	My nose is real.
	It's gorgeous.
	Thank you.
	That's awesome.
	That's sweet.
	But then it's contoured.
	I mean, makeup.
	I'm sorry.
	I mean, makeup does wonders.
	That's why I'm saying, like, it really depends on the day.
	I think I've read you.
	I think I have you figured out.
	Doubt it.
	I'm honestly getting sugar mama vibes from you.
	No.
	Major sugar mama vibes.
	No.
	No, poppy.
	I'm like.
	No.
	No.
	Major.
	Me, the sugar mama?
	You're the sugar mama.
	I'm sorry.
	No, never.
	I can see you with like a like a 23-year-old stud.
	I don't go for studs and looks and stuff.
	Like, I see them like babies.
	Oh.
	Like.
	Like a guy who plays lacrosse.
	Like, I see you as like the next Millennia Trump.
	No.
	I mean, not with Donald, but like, I see you with like an older, sophisticated, like, yes.
	Yes, that's what I want.
	An older, sophisticated, sexy man.
	An older man.
	I know.
	Unfortunately, like, we're different generations, unfortunately.
	What do you mean?
	How old are you again?
	You're 35.
	I'm 35.
	And so that's why I'm 33.
	He's 34.
	I'm cautious with coming on to, because you guys are college age.
	You know, and I'm not a sugar mama or cougar.
	Would you ever pay?
	Would you if can I?
	I want to be matchmaker here.
	Will you take him out on a date?
	Will you take him out on the date?
	The thing is, I don't date just to date.
	Did you date to have sex?
	No.
	Come over.
	No, I mean, I've had, I've had lovers, I've had lovers.
	Do you have lovers right now?
	Do you have a lover?
	I do not.
	I do not.
	When's the last time you had a love?
	I haven't had a lover in a while.
	How long has it been?
	Years.
	Years?
	Wait, hold on.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	A lover for me is someone that I deeply care for.
	When's the last time?
	When's the last time you hooked up with somebody?
	I don't kiss and tell either.
	A lady does not kiss and tell.
	No, definitely not.
	Fortnite?
	Fortnite?
	What's Fortnite?
	14 days.
	Oh, God, no.
	More!
	Way more.
	How long?
	A year?
	I'm sorry.
	Like, I have made, I have a date.
	I just started on the dating app.
	And I seriously fall asleep once I start.
	What app?
	Huh?
	Hinge.
	I'm on Hinge.
	However, I have fallen asleep on there.
	And people are like, wow, you disappeared again.
	It's like, so they wonder if I'm doing it for my social media.
	It's not.
	Like, I'd like to find someone, but I'm lazy.
	If she takes you out on the date, what do you think?
	Where are we going?
	I'm not taking anyone out of work.
	Why?
	Why?
	I don't even take myself.
	What about equality?
	What about equality?
	You know, the thing is, surprisingly, I'm an introvert, and I'm extroverted during like.
	Oh, like, seriously.
	I prefer, like.
	Yeah, I know.
	Savage.
	I thought that was killing me.
	Savage, bro.
	That was the moment right there.
	It's a no from her, basically.
	She's not.
	Stiff.
	Oh, right there.
	Looks like.
	Okay, what do you rate yourself?
	Next.
	No, no, no.
	Let's start somewhere.
	Here.
	Let's go to you then.
	Oh, God.
	Close into the mic.
	That's funny.
	We just talked about this.
	I'm probably going to rate myself.
	We're in Santa Barbara, so I'm probably like a Santa Barbara eight, maybe an LA seven for myself.
	You think?
	Personally, my mom and I think that I'm a 10.
	Absolutely.
	That's me.
	But in perception of other people to me, I'm probably like not everyone's type, and I'm probably like a solid seven and a half, eight.
	Wait, so you think in LA you're ranked?
	I'm ranked lower, yeah.
	It's a different scale.
	It's a different scale.
	No, the women in Santa Barbara are way more attractive.
	I would depends on your type.
	Sure.
	Women in Santa Barbara are more attractive.
	But those women in Santa Barbara are more likely to be a lot more.
	Higher cost of living.
	Higher cost of living.
	Okay, sure, sure, sure, sure.
	But let's say we take it to Idaho or like Tennessee.
	Okay, what are you in Idaho?
	Fine.
	I feel like I would be married by now in Idaho.
	You'd be locked down in Idaho.
	I would be locked down.
	You gotta be married to a farmer, a potato farmer.
	I've been married to a farmer.
	I pick up his accent.
	Boise.
	Oh, you're the farmer's?
	Yeah, that is like the manliest occupation.
	We're from a volunteer.
	We're from a very country town down there.
	Where are you going to go?
	We went to high school together.
	She's my sister's roommate.
	Yeah, we're from a little town east of San Diego.
	So it's like mainly farmertown country.
	If you don't have horses, you're the odd one out.
	Cows in the middle of our town.
	What's that?
	Corn.
	Not corn.
	Chickens.
	Lots of chickens.
	We have like a llama farm and alpaco.
	That's so cute.
	Our chicken farm is pretty big.
	My house backs up to.
	Okay, nobody cares.
	Nobody cares about the chickens.
	Okay.
	We have 4,000 people watching, guys.
	Yo, can we the chat?
	The chat is on fire.
	Can we please get to 2,000 likes?
	Drop a thumbs up.
	Okay.
	So what about you?
	What do you rate yourself?
	Purely looks like no.
	Probably like, especially in LA, like a 6.5 to like 7.5, depending on your type.
	Okay.
	You got good flow, though, with the hair.
	I mean, like, if I'm your type, to me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	I can't really change how I look that much, so I'd rather work on other parts of myself.
	And like, I can improve only so much, but my face is my face.
	Okay, Rhys, what about you?
	One to ten?
	Um, I don't know.
	It really, like, depends on the day, but maybe an eight.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'd say I'm like an eight.
	Okay.
	Six without makeup, seven and a half with makeup.
	Oh, quick on that one.
	Objectively, I think I'm pretty average, five.
	Okay.
	What do you rate yourself?
	Oh, me?
	Oh, oh.
	Okay, I guess I would say I'm about an 8.5.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	We're humble here.
	Yeah.
	Crap.
	All right.
	Does anyone want to revise their answer?
	I have a makeup remover.
	I have Rosatia.
	That's not fair.
	She wants to wipe our faces off.
	I wonder if she didn't give ratings indicative of needing to be humbled more.
	Yeah.
	Or work.
	I mean, you can see me without eyebrows, but these lashes are permanent.
	I'm barely wearing makeup right now.
	Yeah, I don't look like a naked moron.
	I'm barely wearing makeup right now.
	I'm only wearing mascara.
	Natural and natural.
	We can tell you.
	I'm wearing a good amount of makeup.
	I could tell.
	Well, you're not going to be able to do this makeup because it's just my acne that I'm going to show you.
	Here, you didn't rate yourself.
	What's your rating?
	I'm not going to.
	Just say you're 10.
	Just say it.
	No.
	I would never say I was a 10.
	Seriously, I wake up and I'm like, what the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Like, girl, you need some water and sleep.
	What is beauty?
	What is the beauty in the eye of the what does it actually mean?
	I think, like, what you're attracted to.
	Everybody has different opinions, and everybody's a different flavor.
	Everybody has different tastes.
	So it's like someone's going to find me, be like, oh my God, she's an 11 out of 10, and that's their business.
	And then some people are going to be like, she's a fucking three.
	She's like huge and tall and all that kind of shit.
	But like me personally, I have learned to not put too much stock.
	Like when I conceive of myself, I'm not my own type.
	So I wouldn't like rate myself a 10 because when I look in the mirror, it's not like if I could change like the way I look, I wouldn't pick this in particular.
	Not that I think I'm ugly or hate myself.
	I love myself.
	But it's just like, it's literally just visual aesthetic preference, like likes and dislikes.
	It's not that deep.
	And it's as deep as you make it.
	Respectfully, I've made money off my looks myself, so that's why I can say that.
	Well, you know.
	Wait, Reese, with her spoon.
	We have one more question for you before you leave.
	Last question here.
	She's got to leave.
	She's got to dip.
	Yeah, I got to go.
	Her friend is recalling her.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wait, sit down for me.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	It's going to take a minute.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, Reese.
	Yes.
	Is it easier for men or women to get laid?
	I think it's easier for women to get laid.
	Would you like me to expand?
	Is that up for debate?
	That was the question.
	That was the question.
	I feel like it's a pretty simple answer.
	I think it's easier for women.
	Men tend to have pretty low standards when the only thing they're looking for is sex.
	Is there more to that?
	I feel like I think she covered it.
	Where did your friend go, by the way?
	Did she text you?
	Yeah, I really rude.
	Sorry.
	Well, not you.
	Yeah, she texted me.
	What did she say?
	Was it too toxic for her?
	Not necessarily.
	There was just some things said here and there that she was pretty uncomfortable with.
	Oh, was it Enola?
	Wait, did I say your name right?
	I mean, Kayla's my name.
	Oh, I thought it was Enola.
	Enola Blaze.
	That's my stage name?
	Is it because of Enola?
	No, not necessarily.
	It was just things here and there.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Great.
	A little too toxic.
	There was a lot of things.
	I mean, you know, this is a pretty controversial podcast.
	Yeah.
	A little bit.
	Not really.
	What was controversial here today?
	I don't know.
	Well, I think compared to other podcasts, I'm pretty tame, but I think compared, like, of what you hear, for example, like in amongst your college peers, especially living in Santa Barbara, UCSB, fairly, you know, fairly liberal.
	Yeah, I suppose some of these things could be shocking to hear.
	Do you want me to keep it a stack right now?
	And this is not to come at anybody in particular, but to me, she seemed like she was part of the LGBTQ and this is an assumption, but she might not have, she said she was lesbian.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so she might not be on track with some of the things that you said about trans and not supporting that because that is a really controversial issue.
	And like I'm in support of anybody living their life however the fuck they want, but that might have maybe made her feel some type of way and she just chose to remove herself.
	That's the only thing I can think of because if you've watched this podcast or listened to any man in the last 10 years, you knew what to expect.
	And that is the only thing.
	And that's not to like slight you.
	That's just.
	I agree.
	She seems like a lovely girl.
	I just think that if we could like sit here and have a cordial conversation, I think we're all like totally cool trying to find common ground on things.
	Maybe we could get somewhere with something.
	And it's good she just removed herself from a situation she feels uncomfortable with.
	But I feel like constantly we have people in these subset communities that just walk away because they don't have anything to say.
	Well, I suppose the polite thing, at least, I mean, if she was that uncomfortable with the conversation, she could have, she's free to obviously leave, but she could have at least said, hey, I'm good.
	I mean, she should have maybe like text you.
	Maybe she didn't want to interrupt.
	And maybe like right now, since this is like a dating show, we already got into so many kind of political issues.
	It's not really the time or place to debate something that kind of heavy and deep, you know, that is people are really.
	She said she doesn't support.
	I thought she just wanted to just probably remove herself.
	Explore having relation or intimacy with.
	Okay.
	No.
	All right.
	And first of all, someone wants to be cute over there.
	I do.
	Reese has to go.
	I'm there.
	Thanks for having me.
	Hi, Rhys.
	Oh, me too.
	Drive safe.
	Bye, guys.
	Yeah, not coming by the way.
	Is your name Reese?
	It's not the tattoo.
	Oh, okay.
	You just said Witherspoon, that's why.
	Trigger.
	Could you put that on the ground?
	Should we scoot over?
	We could actually do a little scoot, I think, would be best.
	Just make sure the mics don't get knocked over.
	I mean, we're only going to go probably for another 20, 30 minutes.
	Oh, we, shit.
	Sorry, though.
	You were going to ask her to Maui, huh?
	You were going to ask her to Maui, huh?
	I was.
	I was going to ask her to Maui.
	She was the one.
	She was the one.
	Come on.
	Rip.
	She reminded me of that one girl from oh my gosh, I'm blanking.
	Or 10 Things I Hate About You.
	Oh, I'm forgetting her name.
	She's beautiful.
	Mandy Martin.
	Do you know who it is?
	No, with the guy that was in the Joker.
	We didn't even really like the brief comment you made.
	We didn't even say that.
	We didn't even, we skipped over that.
	Like, we didn't even really engage in that, so I don't know what the deal was.
	I'm not, like I said, that's just my observation and of what possibly out of all the topics that were broached in any particular manner.
	But like, I could see someone that felt very passionately about that, that was a part of the community, maybe didn't even want to engage it because they already have, they didn't have the energy or they knew where it was going to go because it is, yeah, like it's like I could sit here and advocate and I would like any time, but do would it be productive?
	I don't know because this is like ultimately talk about trans people or no, you are, but like that, that was she took a stance and she probably didn't like this.
	We also generalized it and then I narrowed it down like after she left.
	I was like, wait, what did you mean by that?
	Like I narrowed it down like an hour and a half later.
	I don't know what it was.
	Yeah, I don't even know what to do.
	Yeah, yeah, if that's how she was.
	Oh, she's a controversial.
	That was the woman I was thinking of.
	Julia Styles.
	Oh, yeah, you're right.
	Mandy Moore is the one that's like Mickey Mick.
	You know, we could have been going to Hawaii together, but alas.
	Okay, so let's talk about body count really quick.
	Should body count matter yes or no?
	Yes.
	Oh, wait.
	Well, here, let me start over here and then we'll come to that.
	That's fine.
	For the man or the woman?
	Both?
	I think kind of.
	I think it's more about how you go about your relationships, regardless of the number and how you treat each partner and how you enter and exit those engagements.
	And that should be more reflective of you than just a number.
	So yes.
	Say a no.
	What was the question?
	Should body count matter?
	Yeah.
	For the most part.
	It's a conversation I don't like to talk about.
	Ask.
	Wait, what?
	It's nasty.
	What does it matter?
	Why do you want to know?
	Like, with your partner?
	So you, you know, it's just one of those things where it's like, that was your life.
	This was my life.
	That's not who I am, or that's not who you are and stuff.
	It's like, meet me where it's not a subject that you want to discuss.
	You are so far away from the microphone.
	I don't think it's a good idea.
	It's not a subject to discuss.
	It's like body count?
	What's the point of you telling me you screwed an X amount?
	It's like, am I supposed to be impressed or grossed out?
	Like, you know, it's not something that I don't, I would like talking about.
	You don't like talking about body count?
	No, that's nasty.
	Do you have anything?
	Because there are diseases out there.
	I'm sorry.
	But you can't get a disease from talking about body count.
	But I'm not going to judge someone on body count and stuff either.
	So it just doesn't matter to you whatsoever.
	I don't want to know.
	Like even if you're not going to be able to do it, it does matter to you because if it was high.
	It's like, if you need to go to the bathroom for whatever reason, I do not need to know what your reason is to go to the restroom.
	That is your business.
	Okay.
	Well, here's a different question.
	Would it upset you if a guy who, either on a first, second date, if a guy asked you what your body count was?
	I think that that would be kind of like an immature.
	That would be like me hard pass on you.
	I gotta go.
	Okay, I'll come back to that.
	I want to get everyone's answer on this, though.
	Go ahead, and then we'll come back around.
	I would want to know why he needs to know because if it really, like that guy's comment, he was like, it was so in-depth and stuff, but I don't know if all men are thinking that deep into it or they're just like, oh, she ran through or not, or whatever.
	But it's like, I would want to know why.
	And if you are someone to make snap judgments on people, if they asked me and wanted to know my whole sexual history, I'd have no problem being open.
	But if they just wanted to like call me a slut if it was over a certain number, then I'd be like, fuck off.
	No, but they might want to use it as a criteria for disqualifying you from pursuing you further.
	I honestly think that's fair.
	If that's what they want in a partner, that's what they want.
	And if that's part of their criteria, maybe that's not somebody I want to be with.
	We're not a match.
	Move on.
	There you go.
	What about you?
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah?
	It does.
	Does it matter?
	You said doesn't matter?
	Was that the question?
	No, the question, I switched it to.
	Oh, okay, okay, okay.
	Would you take an issue if a guy was asked you on a first or second date or something, fairly early on, let's say?
	Yeah, early on is disrespectful.
	About your body count?
	It's not disrespectful as much as it is, like, immature and novice, and it's just, like...
	It's immature and novice?
	Yeah, it's more of a question that you ask once you are willing to consider settling down with them.
	That's when you should ask the question.
	Not settling down with them.
	But like, well, if I didn't want to waste time, I'll ask for your bank statement.
	It's like, all right, let's see the bank statement.
	You want to know my body count.
	Let's get that personal then.
	It's just, there's certain things that it's just, it's tacky.
	Well, the difference there, I would say, is there's no way to, I mean, you can look at a woman's behavior.
	You can sort of look at their appearance and make to some degree a judgment over potential promiscuity or body count.
	But if a guy tells you that he's a mechanical engineer in this city, you can just go on to what's the website where you can look at people's white page profile.
	Yeah, well, there's like, there's websites where you can just like background checks type of thing.
	No, no, no, not see how much specifically they earn, but you say, here's their age.
	Oh, glass door?
	Like glass door.
	You can see, okay, a software engineer in San Francisco is likely to be making X amount.
	So, I mean, if someone tells you they're a certain career, you're going to have a sense of their earnings.
	It's not foolproof, but whereas with body count, it's kind of up in the air.
	Yeah.
	But I've like, I've misread guys before, and then like once we get into the body count conversation, like their body count is significantly like just lower than I thought it would be.
	I'd be like, oh, you're like a 30, 40, you're an entertainer, you do this, you do that.
	And they're like, nope, been with a handful of chicks in my whole life.
	And it's really like, but then it starts clicking as I see like, how do they treat women outside and all this other stuff?
	Well, I feel like as dudes, I mean, you have to go through, I mean, me personally, like, I went through, you know, a stage where I was knocking them down or whatever.
	But as you get older, like you realize, well, like now I only have sex with women that I would date.
	So if I won't even date you, I won't even have sex with you because it's a waste of time.
	I'm busy.
	I don't have time to do all this.
	It's interesting.
	Some people don't have to go through the whole phase to see that, too.
	Well, yeah, true, true, true.
	But a lot of guys can't even have a whole phase.
	A guy has to be able to have a whole phase.
	Like, any girl can have a whole phase, but a guy who's a bad person.
	I don't think he can't have a whole phase.
	I think a guy has to have a whole phase.
	Where are you going with it?
	I just think that there's different levels of emotional intelligence.
	Like, for me, yeah, I'm older.
	And I shouldn't have been here because I'm older because, you know, it's a different crowd.
	However, if like if someone were to start a conversation with me like that, I would be like, you know, my brain cells do not really have the capacity for this conversation.
	Can you close the door, Eric?
	I think that.
	Can I jump in?
	Okay.
	Well, let me have her go first.
	So if a guy on a first or second date asks you, what's your body count?
	I obviously upfront with everybody that I'm talking about, my friends, my family, everybody.
	If somebody asks me my body count, like that's something I can't even give because I don't personally know.
	But I don't think it's a respectful thing.
	You think it's not respectful?
	Yeah.
	You know what else is not respectful?
	People being on their phones while we're in the middle of a conversation.
	I hate when people do that.
	Yeah, you're literally on your phone right now, literally.
	Okay, so.
	Yeah, you were on your phone.
	Okay, so what about you?
	I think that body count does matter and it's indicative of a lot of things.
	I think that there's when bringing up that conversation, I think if first date, you know, a guy just comes off super blunt with it, I'm going to be like, okay, that was distasteful.
	But I think that if, you know, if I'm going on a second or let's say third date with somebody, I have significant interest in them because I'm not wasting my time going on a third date with some guy I don't see a future with in any sense.
	And hopefully that's the same back.
	So if on the third date he asks that question in a respectful sense, then I think that that is definitely something that should be disclosed.
	First date.
	First date.
	He's not being a dickhead about it, but he's just like.
	No, it's all in delivery.
	Everything is.
	Okay, here's the framing.
	Here's the framing.
	It's not like, what's your body count, whore?
	The framing is, hey, listen, I'm not interested in something casual.
	I'm looking for something serious.
	I happen to think that body count matters.
	Just it's something that's important to me.
	I would like to know what your body count is.
	Why is it important?
	Because of everything else we spoke about.
	Let me come back to that, but I'll tell you why body count is important.
	But if he framed it in that way, would that still be disrespectful or rude?
	No, I like honestly, I think the elegant thing to do would say, okay, well, what's the number that's too high for you?
	And if he said, five, you know, depending on who I am.
	No, depending on who I am and what my actual count is, I would say, thank you so much for taking me out.
	I'd leave half the bill and I'd leave.
	Or I would say, my number is under that, and I'm glad we both value this thing.
	What's yours?
	You're so cordial.
	I mean, that's, yeah, I suppose that's one way to do it.
	Okay.
	Wait, but I think that if a man sleeps with a woman and then asks her body count and acts like it matters to him, he's out the window.
	I think that that is just garbage.
	That's gross.
	Well, what's gross?
	So let's say a man sleeps with a woman and he has this idea in his head, or I shouldn't say idea in his head.
	If he has this, if he's, you know, has the motive to be in an expectation of being in the long term or looking for a long-term thing and he sleeps with a woman and then asks what her body count is because it matters to him, shame on him.
	Because he didn't, you know, then she probably would not have done what she did if she knew.
	Is that my opinion on it?
	Oh, sorry.
	I mean, not necessarily, but if that's the biggest pre-qualifier, I think that's like, like I said, the most novice and immature pre-qualifier ever.
	It's immature to care about a woman's promiscuity.
	Immediately, and promiscuity, as in like, how long ago was that past and present and future, whatever.
	But like, why aren't you thinking about like, how is she in public?
	How does she treat you?
	How does she speak to her family?
	Does she even speak?
	You know, like, those things are so much more important.
	And you can't just get everything hashed out in one date.
	So that's why I think like the first date, that does not make sense.
	Just be with someone that has the same values that you.
	Some men want a freak that has a ton of experience.
	Some want a little innocent virgin.
	If they don't like who you are, don't be with them.
	Don't feel personalized.
	Just move on.
	Like, honestly.
	Like, it's really like not, it's only as deep as you make it.
	And if you want to put your value as a human being on your body count, that's on you.
	And vice versa if people want to do that to you and you take their opinion to heart.
	Yeah, but so many women have a serious issue with this being a preference that men have.
	I get that.
	A lot of women, I mean, a couple women at the same time.
	a man that doesn't do you know do you know that you're wait before i have you go did you get to give your take on this Oh, I think body.
	Like if a guy asked.
	I wouldn't care.
	No.
	I think it's important.
	I think it's about self-respect for yourself.
	They want to know you respect yourself.
	Sure.
	High standards, yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I was going to say, did you know that when you have sex with a guy, his DNA is inside of you for a while?
	Like forever?
	Yeah, like sexuality.
	Like there's a study of this.
	Yeah, like you, she couldn't even donate bone marrow because, yeah, like this guy's wife tried to donate bone marrow, but she couldn't because his DNA was part of her bone marrow.
	So every time you say that.
	That's why sex is so spiritual.
	It's like so important.
	I think it's the highest connection you can choose to have with somebody.
	And I think that's why you had a low body count.
	Because it's so spiritual.
	I think sex is such a big thing and should be a valued thing.
	The same reason that sexual assault is so awful.
	If punching someone in the face is not the same as sexually assaulting someone because high-fiving someone is not the same as making love.
	Agreed.
	That was so simple.
	All right, another one bites the dust.
	She got work in the morning.
	She got a nurse.
	Nobody can just make it somebody else.
	Do you guys think promiscuous women make good moms?
	Are they leaving their kids to go fuck people?
	I don't think so.
	Like, that's not good.
	In their past?
	Well, I believe if you don't care what goes in your vagina, how can you care what comes out of it?
	That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I don't know.
	I don't think it's stupid.
	No, because that's just saying that people stay stagnant their entire life.
	Like, what if somebody has a phase in their life where they were mentally going through something and they did behaviors or whatever that you might judge, everybody might judge.
	So a bunch of kids.
	Obviously, we're not talking about rape.
	I mean, the R word and murder.
	Like, stuff like that.
	And like we're not talking about like crimes that are harming people.
	Ethics is about harm.
	If you're harming somebody else, then like absolutely.
	But if it's just out of the standards of like acceptable society, get some help.
	Facts.
	Wait, do those memes come up when somebody like donates?
	No, but people aren't stagnant.
	People can grow.
	People can change.
	And that's just kind of a ridiculous thing.
	Okay, stop it.
	Oh, Jesus Christ.
	Can you hide that?
	Can you hide that there?
	I'll know what's going on with it.
	Okay.
	So body count shouldn't matter, whatever.
	What's your body count?
	Much lower than 10.
	Much lower than 10?
	What?
	I was in a relationship for like five years, and I didn't lose my virginity until I was 18.
	She didn't lose her virginity until 18.
	18 or 19, something like that.
	Okay.
	Wait, before you leave, what's your body count?
	Also, no judgment on people that have high body counts.
	It's just a personal preference.
	Susan.
	I'm a virgin.
	Susan's a virgin.
	No, I'm a virgin.
	Totally a virgin.
	Nice to meet you.
	Nice to meet you.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Okay.
	Seven?
	Maybe around there.
	I'd have to go back through history.
	Okay.
	What's your body count?
	Body count doesn't matter.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, my God.
	Sorry.
	Okay, I'll just hear.
	I'll answer for you since you're going to not answer.
	It's 73.
	That's fucking rude.
	And very presumptuous of you.
	Why is it rude if body counts?
	But I could say that yours is probably to him it does.
	Mine is two.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, you're saying it's rude for me to just throw out some joke number.
	But I've asked you a question and you're just refusing to answer the question.
	And you're just being like, oh, I'm a virgin.
	I mean, come on, you're not a virgin.
	I know, but I'm just setting up the shirt.
	Like, I wore the shirt for a reason.
	I knew this freaking reason.
	Okay, but what's the actual answer?
	Less than 15.
	Everyone's less than something tonight.
	Like, count beforehand.
	But I mean, if your body count, for example, you said it's less than 10.
	If without disclosing my body count, let's say my body count was less than 10.
	I would know precisely how many people I've slept with because that's a low number.
	I would remember all the people.
	If you'll go back to me, I'll go through all the people.
	I would remember all the people.
	No, I remember them, but it's like I do long-term, so it's like I have to kind of, it's still a 10-year history.
	Once you hit like 20 or 30, that's when I think about it.
	It's not like I won't remember them.
	I just think about it before this moment.
	Would you tell us your body count after we're done?
	What about you?
	Why won't you answer my question?
	People that I've wanted to sleep with, six.
	People you've wanted to sleep with, six.
	What about total?
	I can't.
	I don't know.
	I erased that from my mind.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	Do you think it's over 300?
	No.
	Okay.
	Between over 300.
	So let me just say this.
	People, since the career path that I decided to take, I was only seeing certain dudes at, like, it wasn't like different dudes every day, multiple different dudes.
	It wasn't like that.
	It's like one dude, and I would see him for as long as I could until something happened.
	So not that many.
	I would say maybe if I'm going to say highest 100.
	Okay.
	How much did you charge, by the way?
	It varies.
	Do you set it up?
	Did you set the prices?
	I do set the prices.
	Well, I was saying you had a pimp.
	I don't know if he set the prices.
	No, I wouldn't consider him a good pimp.
	Yeah, that's kind of disconnected a little.
	It's all good.
	I mean, I don't think there are good pimps out there, but.
	What about Andrew Tate?
	I love Andrew Tate.
	You love Andrew Tate?
	Go ahead.
	W. Free Andrew Tate.
	Free Top G, Free Top G, Free Top G. He's out.
	What?
	I think so.
	No, I'm not going to stop.
	They are.
	There's a bunch of like every fucking day.
	There's this fucking channel on YouTube called, I think CHAT, is it.
	There's BSN and like Fessify, and they release every day the same like clickbait shit which is like Andrew Tate release today and it's like bro, these channels do you guys know what I'm talking about?
	BSN and like Fessify, Tessify on YouTube they release these one minute update videos and they're like Andrew Tate released today.
	I'm like tablets of you and I always click it.
	I'm like, oh shit Fessify fucking, they clickbait worse than I do.
	Okay um, free top G.
	Okay so uh how, what's the most you've ever charged a guy for some action?
	Mean, I would charge.
	I wish I could charge a lot.
	The most I've ever got paid?
	Um yeah 2,000, 2k.
	Oh nice okay okay, how much did the pimp take?
	So, or was this the situation with?
	I've had?
	I've had multiple pimps, multiple pimps, but not serious ones.
	But so, like in the beginning of when me and my pimp, my ex that I was with for three, four years, I don't know I gave him us like all my money and he would give me like a little bit back.
	Like he would give me like maybe like $60 for like pocket money if I wanted to buy like a dance outfit or something like that.
	But like, as time went on, like he's the one who really pursued me and wanted to be in a relationship don't read the channel, I don't care he he eventually told me like he loved me and he wanted to be with me.
	So I kind of just played my role and I was like you know, maybe this is it, maybe this is my man.
	You know, because I've always wanted to be married, that's my goal, that I think that should be every woman's goal and something just switched in him one day and like he just got extremely abusive.
	Do you know what pimp stands for?
	No positive, were you gonna do it?
	No no no, that's the Andrew Tate.
	But that one, the bad one, is a professional and manipulating people.
	Oh okay yeah, the Andrew.
	The Andrew Tate is the positively, inspirationally motivating person.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	That's a good pimp, a positive.
	I mean a lot of, a lot of pimps.
	Nowadays they call themselves like lifestyle coach.
	They do, they do, they kind of are a lifestyle coach.
	That's funny okay um, so the most you ever made was 2000s but okay yeah, one person got it.
	Uh, body count, that's an intimate detail of my life I declined to share because I don't think my future husband would appreciate that as well as sure okay, that's fair.
	No, it's not.
	I literally declined and you were like 73, and then you dropped a million for mine.
	I know I, I firmly believe that this is not something that you know the public needs to.
	It's okay.
	No, and I agree with you too.
	I'm just mad that I didn't.
	I went hard on you and yeah, and I did the first time and I stood my ground.
	Yeah, i'm sure she is perceived as more intellectual, so that's why you went harder on me.
	No no, it's actually, it's more.
	Here's what it has to do.
	Oh here, i'll come to this in a bit more Quavius.
	Um, i'm actually half Ukrainian too, like i'm everything with.
	Anyway disavow okay, facetious.
	I don't have Rosatia.
	Rosatia's stats.
	I love that.
	Keep vigorously expressing your opinions.
	Can you read it?
	It will magically disappear.
	Okay.
	Your mom.
	Oh, wow.
	Did you know that Marquavius Martin is actually a Mensa member?
	So he's like genius IQ.
	Genius IQ.
	Oh, I'm a genius.
	You took a test and got a score.
	Wait, so okay.
	You're upset.
	You're upset that I grilled you.
	What is AARP?
	Oh my God, this chick's fucked out.
	Okay.
	What?
	Okay, I'm upset that you grilled me and you didn't grill her.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think it's because of your red hair.
	You know, like with the bullfighting, they have like the red Toro, Toro shit.
	Uh-huh.
	Is it kind of pink?
	It has like purple tones and shit.
	I don't know.
	In any case, I think the red hair.
	You know, like how police are more likely to pull over red cars?
	I think that's why.
	Although she's wearing a red shirt, so I don't know.
	Yeah, hold on.
	I came off very sarcastic in the beginning, but that's just because that's my humor.
	But she's just being a troll.
	It's all good.
	Actually, her.
	Yeah, it's all good.
	Actually, I don't get it.
	What's your body count on the internet of me?
	My body counts.
	A troll in a good way.
	Y'all just don't know.
	Oh, I thought you were.
	Oh, no, you're good.
	I'm back.
	One.
	Based.
	Based.
	She said that with pride, too.
	She was like, they got together at 14, though, so it makes sense.
	I love that.
	Based.
	She started dating him at 14.
	Return to tradition.
	But I'm not knocking you.
	Reject modernity.
	Embrace masculinity.
	I want to see that in the chat, boys.
	What's your body count?
	My body count, if I'm being honest.
	Be honest.
	I do not know.
	Hundreds.
	I've been having sex since longer than I haven't been having sex.
	I'm pretty good at sex now.
	I don't know.
	But no, I mean, it's in the hundreds.
	There is a bed up there if he wants to.
	Prove it.
	Bring the couch.
	He likes those.
	Remember?
	Prove it to you?
	No, just to the world.
	That's his own review of himself.
	I'm not knocking you.
	I'm just saying.
	Onlyfans.com/slash whatever.
	Go subscribe.
	Oh, yeah.
	Maybe I should get OnlyFans.
	Oh, yeah.
	I support it 100%.
	Sex where you're going to be able to get your business together.
	I'll have you run the whatever, OnlyFans, and you'll just like.
	Yeah.
	I'm down, bro.
	It's time to be up.
	All right, fuck it.
	Listen.
	Gotta monetize what I'm good at.
	Oh, I'm just trolling you, by the way.
	I'm not being a hater.
	Can I ask?
	You said you were a comedian.
	Can you tell us a joke?
	A joke?
	Yeah.
	Ooh, fuck.
	Yeah, do your set right now.
	Do a set right now.
	No, man.
	I don't tell jokes for free.
	Oh, okay.
	No, this is valuable.
	You've been working for free over here?
	No, I'm really sorry.
	So what's your body count?
	Okay, if I had to put a number on it, if I had to put a number on it, I would say, oh, man.
	I hope they don't put this on like a, like, what do you call it?
	How do they make a short of it?
	You're overthinking it.
	You're definitely overthinking it.
	Just say the number.
	You're in a safe place.
	I'm in a safe place.
	Yeah, you're safe.
	The internet is a safe place.
	Sweet artists.
	Lindsay, put this on while he thinks about it.
	Okay.
	It's a worldwide subject.
	Whose head has been in this?
	Don't worry about it.
	Maybe like three something?
	Nobody's.
	Three something?
	Okay.
	Triple digits.
	No, no, no, no.
	Two like the high twos, maybe.
	200.
	Like two, almost threes, maybe.
	I don't know, man.
	Like, I've done some sex parties.
	I've done, like, you got to count all of those.
	All of those count.
	You know what I mean?
	When you walk into sex parties, do you respect people there?
	Like, do you just have a base language?
	You just smack the shit out of everybody.
	You just take whatever you want.
	Yeah, what do you mean?
	Of course you want to do it.
	Well, there's a difference between treating someone with respect and actually respecting them because I treat everyone that I come in contact with with respect and I respect very few people actually.
	No, I'm a gentleman.
	I treat everybody nice.
	Okay, so you treated them all with respect, but did you actually respect any of them?
	I don't know what you mean.
	If he's going into that environment, I don't know what you mean.
	Okay.
	Yeah, he would be not respecting himself if he didn't respect them.
	Yeah, no, like I love, I don't, promiscuous women, that doesn't really bother me.
	I don't really care.
	I do it like.
	Doesn't my hat look good?
	Yeah, this looks phenomenal.
	But I um for me is like as long as the chick has burning desire for me, like the shit really don't matter because like I'm like I said, I'm a unicorn.
	Like I'm not, I don't, yeah, I don't have like issues.
	Okay, I've a side question.
	So I've seen like I watch like Love Island and shit.
	Like I love trashy reality TV just to numb my mind.
	But like they always say like in Britain that they're like, yeah, my body counts like 400, 500.
	Like how?
	Like, do you think that's real or like the bear cap about that?
	Because they really are very proud of those numbers.
	And I'm just, it blows my mind.
	I'm not judging, but like, how do you actually maintain that or get to those numbers?
	Honestly, like, okay, well, college for one.
	I went to college.
	So that was.
	Yeah.
	Someone do the math on how many girls you have to smash, like at what rate to get to like thousands of people.
	Dude, it goes pretty fast.
	Oh, sure.
	The yeah, I, it's, yeah, you might go on a weekend.
	Like, if you have a wild weekend, you go on vacation.
	Like, chicks on vacation, they're wilding out.
	They're like, it's, it's not, yeah, the numbers add up pretty quick.
	The numbers add up pretty quickly.
	They add up pretty quick.
	All right.
	Let's was there something we were supposed to react to?
	You said there's like a video.
	Eric.
	Oh, that's awkward.
	Here, one thing really quick.
	Let's pull this Yahoo thing up.
	We'll look at it for two minutes and then we'll play video and then we're going to wrap.
	Did I do one disturbing?
	Go ahead, you can pull it up.
	Most young men are single.
	Ooh, voice crack.
	Most young men are single.
	Most young women are not.
	Can you scroll down a little bit?
	So this came out from Pew Research, I think, a month ago.
	Can you see where?
	Can you find the link to Pew Research?
	There should be.
	Scroll down.
	Wait.
	Oh, it's the very bottom one.
	Wait, actually, story continues.
	Click that.
	Yeah, the 30% of U.S. adults.
	Yeah, click on that link.
	Hopefully, it takes us to Pew.
	Control mouse wheel zoom in.
	More.
	Just do more.
	Okay, scroll down.
	All right, so let's okay.
	Pause there.
	Can you do one more?
	Scroll in one more so we can see a bit better.
	Okay.
	Scroll down just a tan.
	Okay, so let's look at ages 18 to 29 and ages 18 to 29.
	So for men, 63% of men between the ages of 18 to 29 report being single.
	However, for women, between the ages of 18 to 29, 34% of them report being single.
	So what the fuck is going on there?
	What that either means is that women are dating older men, or that's part of it.
	Or I think the bigger thing is, is that women are all dating the top tier of men.
	So women are sharing men.
	And then so you have women, they've got a boyfriend or they're in a situationship with a guy.
	And maybe that girl's dating multiple people.
	He's dating multiple people.
	But the men at the very top, they have a ton of options.
	Then women below that have a little fewer options than the men.
	Well, it's not that they have fewer, but these men are just running through chicks.
	And then you have men who are average who are basically getting nothing.
	So this is shocking.
	And this is like pretty catastrophic for society, I think.
	I feel like some of these guys aren't like claiming the girls too.
	So there's that.
	The women might think they're in a relationship.
	Just how we were like bantering about being in a situation.
	Tilt the microphone so it's straight on.
	The same way we were bantering that we're like in situationships and wearing it proudly.
	Like men won't like claim the same energy at all.
	So, you know, a woman might think she's in a relationship, but it's so one-sided.
	That could be another factor too.
	By the way, did we, did I, Marquavius Martins, I see it's not starred here, Eric.
	We didn't really read it, did we?
	She read it to herself, kind of.
	Didn't I?
	I don't want to screw Markavius over here.
	marquavius confirm or deny was that an acceptable read of your because she's kind of mumbling through You should read it again.
	Yeah, I didn't see it start here, so I was going to pull it back up.
	Poor Eric.
	Poor Eric.
	Oh, yeah.
	Carpal tunnel syndrome.
	Let's go.
	Let's go.
	Oh, he's going.
	He's going for it.
	Okay, as soon as she comes back, we're going to watch a video and then we're going to.
	So I can tell you the story.
	I had sex with a dude one time.
	What the fuck?
	Wait.
	What?
	Where was this when we were talking about gay rights?
	No, hear me out.
	Hear me out.
	Hear me out.
	So it was a girl.
	It was this girl.
	You know, she was sexy, had a nice big butt, whatever, whatever.
	We had sex, blah, blah, blah.
	And then at some point, we got disconnected.
	And then the next time I talked to her, she had, I guess, decided she was now a dude or whatever.
	But like, she still had, I mean, she looked like a girl to me.
	But to her, she was a dude.
	It was the way she was identifying, but she still anatomically was a girl.
	That's a girl.
	She's like, vagina.
	That's a woman.
	She was born with a vagina.
	Yeah, that's a girl, honey.
	That's a woman.
	You need to reframe the whole thing.
	But today, it's Day's world.
	She's a dude.
	Because she says she's a dude.
	So I had sex with a girl.
	Oh, like pronouns.
	Gender and sex are two different things.
	Gender is a social construct.
	sex is your biological makeup and there's that's a whole we could get into the science i mean I mean, no, I agree, but I'm just saying.
	Yeah, like, you had sex with a girl.
	We were all physically and you had sex with a vague.
	I was like, top or bottom.
	Explain it to me again.
	No, she was born with a vagina.
	We had sex when she called herself a girl.
	But at some point, she was like, transgender.
	It was a pussy.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't like a dick.
	No, no.
	That's not gay.
	That's not a girl.
	I don't know if that was gay.
	I just said.
	The phrase sounds pretty gay.
	I know.
	I phrased it that way.
	That's a woman, though.
	Huh?
	That's a woman.
	But you can get canceled for saying that.
	I don't care.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Facts are facts.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	It's just definitely a woman.
	Yeah, vagina, you're a woman.
	Yeah, it was funny, though.
	Gender and sex are two different things.
	Hey, yeah.
	The chat is on fire.
	Oh, my God.
	Gender and sex are two different things.
	No, MGT Gaming.
	Thank you for the $100 super chat.
	I think this is the first time I'm seeing you.
	Welcome, man.
	What are your thoughts of girls reusing guys from the past to make the body count number not go up?
	Is that like done on purpose or are they just spinning the block for their ex to still have feelings for it?
	Say this.
	Really?
	I've heard girls say this.
	Apparently it's a thing.
	Recycling.
	I think they call it recycling.
	I don't think the guy's mad at it.
	I mean, he might as well if he already hit you what you're getting.
	There's no surprises.
	I guess that makes sense.
	I think that should count.
	Like if the guy well, if it should count as like half a body, I think.
	No way.
	Because if they've like fucked people's sense, like for example.
	Exposure-wise, I feel you.
	Okay.
	Yeah, exposure-wise, I feel like you gotta be careful.
	So, what was your body count?
	I'm a man of God.
	I don't revolve.
	Wow, okay.
	So, we're just all Satan's disciples here.
	666.
	Yes, you are all.
	That's a 599, baby.
	You can't see it.
	He said it.
	Drop it.
	Wait, what?
	Hold up.
	That was your body count, that number.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There you go.
	I wonder if someone has actually counted with the goal to get to 666.
	That would be kind of sad when they got to the last one and they were like, that's a hardcore Satanist.
	That's some Satanists.
	I'm sure there's somebody else.
	All right, let's do the Patrice clip.
	Let's do the Patrice clip.
	Patrice.
	If you can hide the assumptions, super chat.
	All right.
	Go for it.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Here's a question.
	Here's a good question.
	Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
	And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die.
	How would you keep your man past, you get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch right away because you just lost a pussy in a train accident.
	Can't just walk right out on him.
	How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
	Eric.
	Pause it.
	Go ahead.
	What that mouth do?
	Okay, mouth?
	Sure.
	I will like to add to that statement.
	What that ass do?
	Okay.
	What to ask do?
	Okay, what about you?
	Anola Blaise.
	I would use my mouth.
	Use the mouth.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd figure out a way to meet some biological needs.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I don't know.
	I'm not into weird stuff, so I don't know.
	Is giving head weird to you?
	Not weird, not, but not favorable.
	So at all.
	I don't like it.
	Okay, let's play that.
	Do you like getting it?
	That's a different story.
	Oh, interesting.
	I like.
	Okay, I feel you.
	To each their own.
	Okay.
	Let's play the rest of the clip.
	I don't know who said that.
	We're all out of third grade.
	Nobody said V-word.
	Huh?
	I said the gene.
	Yeah, that's funny.
	Pay attention.
	Wow.
	Nothing new.
	Go full screen.
	Suck his dick.
	Okay.
	Mouth.
	Asshole.
	Okay, great.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Now, I've been getting pussy beam the whole show, right?
	But I give women an opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
	but you just classified yourself as a series of hoes, but, you know, I'm supposed to teach you special, but you're just a bunch of hoes to yourself.
	No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
	Oh, that was fun.
	Exploding.
	Whatever.
	Okay.
	Your reaction to that.
	Yeah, I was thinking like bring other people into it as well.
	But it is funny because obviously when we answer that question, your guys' whole point are men are hunters.
	We need variety.
	We're biologically programmed to want this, this, and this.
	And everybody in a relationship is going to want sexual satisfaction.
	If they're already dating me, they want to be with me for me.
	And the sexual stuff is just another component.
	And if that gets taken away, I'm going to replace that component.
	So yeah, a logical answer is to answer about sexuality.
	It doesn't mean I'm classifying myself as a bunch of holes, but I love it.
	It's funny.
	It was a good bit.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Sorry.
	That was just like not the own you thought it was.
	Yeah, he was so funny.
	I love that.
	But it was funny.
	It was a pretty good one.
	No.
	It was pretty good.
	You guys took the bait too.
	You all took the bait.
	But I just put the logic behind why we took the bait.
	Yeah, like it was inferred.
	What did you want to say?
	I would make a better sandwich.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Like, okay, one of the best sandwiches.
	I really need to learn how to cook.
	I don't cook.
	We have vaginas and they still want to fuck other things.
	Like, what do you mean?
	Okay.
	Okay, so any fun thoughts quickly before I wrap up the show?
	Anything?
	Okay.
	WP.
	Do you have a final question or was that it?
	I mean, I always have more questions, but I'll give us, throw us out, like, a final end question.
	I'm going to wrap up.
	If you're a man of God, why do you have so many hoes around you?
	I am trying to introduce a new paradigm in dating.
	Okay, which is?
	I want to introduce a new paradigm in dating.
	Synodyne.
	A new paradigm.
	Do you guys know that, like, when you used to go see the movies, there's like that intro before the movie?
	Right.
	Synodyne.
	A new paradigm.
	What the fuck was the rest of it?
	I don't know.
	I did have a question that you got for me.
	I was just wondering, like, what is your goal in life?
	Like, what do you want to do?
	This just came up when we were talking about how you don't spend your money.
	So, like, I feel like when you ask most people that question, it's A, have a family or B, like, be as successful and rich as I can be.
	Right.
	And you don't seem to fall under either of those.
	Yeah.
	Make enough money so I can say fuck you to the government.
	And I want fuck you money.
	So I would never have to be in a situation where I'm like, have a boss or anything like that.
	How much money do you think that is?
	Probably that's going to, I mean, it depends what age you retire, but probably that's at least $5 or $10 million.
	I think.
	Like regularly coming in, not like you just won the lottery.
	No, like that's, I think the number where it's like, I think you're good is like five or ten million net worth.
	Do you have any black people?
	Maybe not even their winning.
	Reparations in San Francisco, five million.
	That's all you need.
	It's to change my skin color.
	Wait, reparations?
	What do you mean?
	In San Francisco, they're talking about doing that, bro.
	Yeah, they're talking about giving people black people five million.
	How do you feel about all that?
	Is it five million?
	How do you feel about all that?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, that's what I read.
	You said, how do I feel about that?
	Yeah, like do you think that's a good idea?
	Well, I don't live in San Francisco, so I'm pissed.
	No, they have a program.
	Newsome is opening here too as well.
	For reparations.
	It's like $300,000 or something.
	Do you think in general people of color deserve reparations for what their ancestors endured?
	Yeah.
	Oh, Jesus, we're talking about.
	Dating talk, dating talk.
	Yes.
	All right.
	The answer is yes.
	Read history.
	Yo, so.
	For those of you who enjoyed the show and you are interested in information about the sexual marketplace, you should really check out RP Mentor Tokyo's channel on YouTube.
	It's a little shout out for him.
	He left a super chat yesterday.
	So yeah, if you're interested in looking at some of this stuff, some data and information, RP Mentor Tokyo on YouTube.
	Anyways, guys.
	I do have a final question.
	I'm so sorry.
	One thing, it is important to me, LGBTQ+, okay, say it to this if you want.
	LGBTQ rights matter, trans rights matter.
	All love to everybody.
	No judgment anywhere.
	Sex work is valid.
	Boom.
	Huram!
	Thank you.
	Feel free to close it.
	Feel free to hate that statement.
	I don't care.
	That's how I feel.
	And everybody's entitled.
	Say this shit before the fucking end of the show.
	Say some fucking other fucking ridiculous shit.
	Okay.
	Let's go get drunk.
	Excuse me.
	All right.
	Yo, thanks for tuning in tonight, guys.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show.
	I think, I'll know, guys, let me know in the chat really quick.
	Lower back down the TTS and the super chats.
	Maybe, I don't know.
	I'm just testing it out, seeing how it goes.
	But I think last show, the TTS was interrupting a bit too much.
	We had way too many super chats last show went pretty long.
	So anyways, let me know.
	I'm going to fluctuate and kind of see what works, what doesn't.
	But let me know on that.
	Big thank you to the panel who came.
	Thank you to you guys who stuck around for the entire show.
	Why are you putting an L?
	I'm getting L's.
	Oh, you're putting it?
	Oh, she's an L?
	Okay.
	Thank you guys for coming.
	Thank you for staying till the end.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you to all of our chat mods and any women who are short and or who have a large delay BM.
	IDMs are open.
	BD underscore at less just saying.
	Okay, we will be live again Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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