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Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and your school major.
Go ahead.
Hi, I'm Kitty Lixo.
I am 69.
And.
Okay, go ahead.
Sorry, why?
You're 69?
Yeah, I'm 69.
In what you're doing.
You like older ones?
You like dog ears?
Yeah.
I am an OnlyFans creator.
Should you check me out?
And yeah, I live in LA.
Hello, my name is Jade, otherwise known as Not Judasaur.
I do dumb pranks to people and social experiments.
And yeah, say some, I'm going to say some dumb shit to Brian later.
Oh, shit.
Okay, I'm looking forward to it.
I'll say some dumb shit back to you so it works out.
But you also do OnlyFans as well.
Okay.
Got it.
Did you want to omit that from the show?
I'm in.
No, no.
Never mind.
Okay.
I hope I didn't just expose you.
But okay, go ahead.
My name's Cam.
I'm 18 and I'm a student.
My major is biology for pre-med.
Student where?
UCSB.
Okay, rock and roll.
Go ahead.
My name's Aaliyah.
I'm also a student at UCSB studying biology and I'm 18 years old.
Are you guys in sororities?
I am, yeah.
Which one?
Actually, wait.
I'm an AKIO.
Okay, rock and roll.
Go ahead, guys.
My name's Lupita.
I'm 23 years old.
I do Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
My name is Jasmine and I'm 23 years old and I'm standing at SPCC and I still don't know what I want to study.
Okay, rock and roll.
And wait, Jay, did you give your age?
Yeah.
Okay.
69.
You're 69 years old.
Yeah.
What's your real age?
You want to guess?
You want me to guess your age?
I mean, you can if you want.
23?
Pretty close.
Up or down?
Up.
25?
That's pretty.
That's close enough.
30?
That's down.
Oh, what?
Okay, 27?
Up.
What?
29.
Up.
Down?
I don't know.
You guys tell us your real age.
Why do I have to tell you my real age?
So that we can assess.
So you can what?
So you can assess my fertility, my egg count.
That's actually part of the show.
Valuableness to the world.
During the show, we actually tracked underneath the table there's an egg count tracker.
There is?
That's my egg count.
I'm curious.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
Do I look fertile to you?
Do I look like I should be barefoot naked in your kitchen?
Barefoot?
Barefoot.
I mean, at least some sandals or something.
No, I'm Asian.
We do not wear shoes in the house, Brian.
Moccasins?
No, no.
Okay, maybe like bedroom slippers.
The bedroom slippers.
Okay, all right.
I'll get a pair from Amazon.
Okay, so you both do OnlyFans.
You two.
How long have you guys been doing OnlyFans?
Since COVID started.
Okay.
Yeah.
Same.
Was that what precipitated wanting to start OnlyFans?
Is everyone was locked up in their house and hey, might as well make some money?
Is that?
Yeah, she got me into she got me into it actually.
She used my referral code on OF, but I got started because I started out as an import model.
And so I already had like a following on Instagram.
This was before they started banning everyone.
And so I kind of converted those followers to OF subs and just got started from there.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nice.
How do you like it?
How do I like it?
Yeah.
That's great.
It's good money.
It's like, you know, there's haters out there, but like, you know, you're making your own money and like your own brand.
So I'm not ashamed of it.
Do you guys have a management company running your OnlyFans or is it just all on your own?
Just on my own.
What about you, Jade?
I don't have a management company on my own.
Do a lot of girls have companies like running the shit for them or is it, would you say most girls on OnlyFans, it's just they're on their own?
It depends really.
Like I think some of like the really big influencers have their management companies run it for them and then they take 20%.
Yeah.
But they have like like you have like assistants.
Like I have an assistant that does like my social media posts.
So like I'll send her all my pictures for the week and then she'll queue them up and stuff.
Okay.
And she'll queue them on my like Instagram and like she'll post my stories and my Twitter feeds and retweet and stuff and handle the collabs.
But I think management agencies were really big a while ago, but now girls are more apt to do things themselves.
Because I've heard stories of how because I mean some of the girls maybe they're they have such a huge audience that they can't respond to all the dudes that are messaging them right and I think that's a big way you monetize on OnlyFans is by having this interaction with the people that are messaging you.
So have you guys ever considered hmm maybe I can optimize this by just having someone respond on my behalf?
Is that a thing?
I think even though you have a lot of subs, like most girls have paid pages.
So a lot of my traffic comes from my paid page.
But there's already like, that's already like a paywall right there that kind of weeds people that aren't serious out.
And then on top of that, like I prioritize messages by how much they tip me.
So if you tip me more and if you're more like you engage more by tipping, obviously I'll prioritize you more.
So that's how I prioritize my messages.
Yeah, how do you categorize the money that you make on OnlyFans?
Because I mean, there's the initial sub, right?
There's tips, like you said.
And then I guess people can make requests.
Like customs.
Customs.
The more custom it is, the more niche it is, the more money you make off of it.
I would say I make maybe like 10% of my income off of customs.
Okay.
Yeah.
Are there limits to what you're willing to do?
No, I'll do anything for money, Brian.
Anything.
Yes.
Anything.
I won't do anything poop.
I won't do anything scat or anything.
Okay, I want to say that.
You can see that.
That's fine.
No, no poop and no like pee or anything or like bodily stuff.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jade, what about you?
I mean, yeah, I do that.
Like if they if they request it, like I have some weird customs.
They ask for like poop videos, pee videos.
I just give it to them if they want it.
They pay pretty good for it, honestly.
So how much would someone have to pay for that?
$250 to $300 per maybe like a five to ten minute video.
Oh, you need to charge more than you really?
Yes.
Because customs are so hard to do.
Customs, or like, I don't like doing customs because it's like, it's just like me doing a solo video myself, for some reason, is different than someone saying, like, do this and this and get this camera angle.
I would say you can charge up to like $600 per custom.
That's what I know a lot of girls do, actually.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're selling yourself too cheap, Jade.
So, like, of the stuff that you guys do on OnlyFans, I mean, of the different ways that you can make money, you know, there's the initial sub, tips, customs.
What would you say the bulk of your revenue comes from?
PPV.
Yeah, I would say like custom videos.
Customs.
That's a big one.
People love that.
Jade's very good at JOI because she's really good at telling people what to do.
Really?
Yeah, she's amazing at that.
You're amazing at that.
Can you tell the chat to do something?
Oh, what do you mean?
Like, tell the chat to jerk us off?
I mean, sure.
Oh.
Oh, God.
Oh, that's a little inappropriate for YouTube, I feel.
Let me tell the chat to put cucumber emojis in the chat.
Hey, sexy boys.
How about you take out your big hard cucumber and start putting it on inside the chat?
Please.
Please, and thank you.
I want you to see your big cucumber.
I want to see your big ass cucumber in the chat.
Give it to me now, please.
What?
Okay.
By the way, actually, you know what?
I recently acquired onlyfans.com/slash whatever.
And I'm thinking of trying to do something, so it may be involving cucumbers.
I don't know.
So maybe after the show, you can give me some advice on the OnlyFans game.
Would you ever do nudes?
Like me?
Yeah.
Yeah, would you perform, actually?
And balls.
It's, no, I wouldn't.
But you have a lot of female fans that would honestly make it.
I don't think I have any.
I might have like two female fans.
Oh, okay.
You have like a lot of gay fans.
Like mostly probably more gay fans than female fans.
Oh, there you go.
So, I mean, there's a big market for that.
I suppose.
I was thinking maybe Kiki, like, take some photos with Kiki and stuff.
Like, she could be.
Because she's got the parts.
Oh, you could give her the cucumber.
That could work.
Wow.
Yeah.
Inspiration.
There you go.
Thank you.
Maybe for later.
And so as far as the content that you guys do, is it all solo content or do you fuck?
So sometimes I have like when I have a boyfriend, I make content with my boyfriend.
So fucking content.
Really?
Sometimes.
What about you?
Yeah, I find guys sometimes off of like Hinge and like dating apps.
And I have a couple guys that I shoot with.
So I do boy girl content like everything.
Okay.
Okay, I have a question, if you guys don't mind.
How is finding guys to do that?
Like is that hard?
Like you say like you just like find guys on Hinge?
Like do you just reach out to them and be like, oh hey like make a video with me?
Like how does that work on their end?
It's got to be like in the context of finding them and then just like being on the dating app as like a regular girl and then like going out on a date and getting to know them and then if I like them I'll just be like I'll tell them like hey I do only fans like I need some talent.
Would you mind just like holding the camera and do doing like POV while I like suck you off or something?
And usually they're like totally game for it because they're not their faces aren't in it and they like and it's it's kind of just like making a sex tape with you know a girl that you met online.
Or you get your friends like your guy friends to like help you out.
Just say oh hey I need like a favor and then can you like help me make a video and then usually like guy friends are always down for that.
It's a power message.
Wait when you ask for help like fucking or just film like actually just filming no no no you gotta get them in slowly first like you can't just jump all in.
Like you gotta like get them like do some like a photo shoot like a sexy photo shoot to like get them warmed up.
Oh wow.
And then you do like video of you like masturbating and then you jump into the third part which is like oh can I give you like a blow blow and you go from there.
You ask them to edit your videos first and ask them to start editing your videos just to get them used to the idea.
Do they get any of the proceeds?
No.
No.
I mean they get the they get you so like that's like a gift.
They're the prize.
You're the prize.
Yeah.
Okay, so you said but you said for you you will have your boyfriends if you have one at the time.
They'll film with you.
So I mean you've been doing OnlyFans for two three years now?
I think how long was COVID?
Like a year and a half.
It's coming close to three years I think.
Oh two years?
Damn two years then.
Okay.
Yeah so have you had multiple boyfriends throughout this time period?
I've had two.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you've only filmed with two guys then?
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
Got it.
Really?
Hinge?
That's where you find the dudes?
Yeah, I mean like I've dated a couple of these guys.
So like yeah, so I'll meet them on Hinge because like I could go mainstream maybe and shoot for like a major studio, but I feel like as far as proper porn.
Yeah, but I feel as like as far as monetization goes, sometimes it's better to do things like I want to own my own content.
I want to have creative control over it.
And then also I feel like if your content's already out there, it might be harder to monetize.
So I choose to keep it behind like a paintwall.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nice, nice.
How frequently do you guys post?
Every day.
Every day.
Every single day?
Yeah.
You got to tease them every day.
Tease them.
Every day the cock gets hard.
And make sure they're thinking about you all the time.
So I post like two, three times a day because they should just be thinking about you.
They're like our online boyfriend.
That's how you make them obsessed.
So you post every day, but you're not taking photos every day.
Maybe you'll have what, one, two days a week where you just take a bunch and then spread that out kind of thing.
Okay.
Huh.
How much do you guys make on OnlyFans?
So you make the big numbers.
I'm in the top 0.1%.
Yes.
Top 0.1%.
Okay.
Yeah, so.
You're the top G. I'm not a top G. I'm not like Kazumi status, but I'm like, I'm trying my best.
How much does she make?
She makes like, she makes like $100,000, $200,000 a month.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I make like a quarter.
Say it if you want um, I do.
You want to give us a range?
Yeah okay, I make between 20 and 60, 00 a month.
Oh wow, what about you, Jane?
Uh, I make about 25 to 30k a month.
Wow yeah wow, you see girls okay, anyways.
Uh, do you do you recommend like people getting into only fans?
Like I would say, if you really, oh shit, that's tough it, it depends.
It really depends.
Like, if you want to have a career later on, I would say don't do it.
So like, if you want to go into corporate, everyone's going to find out later on and then stuff leaks on the internet really easily.
So i'd say it's forever yeah, it's forever.
So I say, be careful, not everyone should do it.
It's not for everybody, damn.
But I mean the, the numbers you're.
You're saying I mean that's well, we love money, that's super.
I mean, even out of university with a degree, most people are probably looking at 60, 70k a month or sorry, a year yeah, salary.
So I mean, but it's also not forever.
Like you have to realize that there's like a, the timeline for this job, so it's really important.
I mean you're 69, so I am, that's except for me.
I'm not time, i'm the exclusion yeah um, but there's a timeline.
So I feel like, in order to like, if you really want to commit to doing of or like you know, porn or something, you have to really manage your money properly.
Yeah, save up.
I mean, there's like milf stuff right oh, there is.
Yeah, there definitely is.
There's a niche for everything.
But it's like, do you you have to think long term, like do I want to be doing it at like 69, like me, you know, and?
But so you guys also have the podcast.
Like that's how I found you guys.
I saw one of your clips on tick tock and you guys talk about like dating and sex and stuff.
So would you guys consider the podcast to kind of be more your side hustle and only fans is like your primary thing that you're focused on?
Or are you guys maybe thinking hmm, how can I maybe transition into like either twitch or the podcast, yeah?
Or are you guys thinking always only fans?
Uh well, I think for me, only fans is more like a supplemental income.
Um, my main hustle is like i'm in acting school right now, so eventually um eventually, i'm gonna stop and just like delete it, make a new name and then get in, try to get into Hollywood, and that's my, that's my goal.
Like legally, change your name like like, just like, change my username oh, change your username yeah, and then use my real name for acting oh okay, yeah.
And so you're currently in acting school yes okay yes, I could tell you're a theater, theater kid.
Oh, you could tell yeah, how.
You just theater kid vibes.
For sure man, they really fuck you up in acting school, though I believe it's a lot of like crazy shit that I believe it.
Have you been practicing a monologue that you want to do for the?
No, i've only been doing scenes.
Uh, what I don't have.
What kind of scene?
Oh so um, right now i'm playing like Patrick Bateman from Uh, American Psycho.
So you know the scene.
I got something for you.
Hold on, where is it?
Keep keep talking amongst yourselves, don't?
I love American Psycho, you do?
Oh man, I read the book and I love the movie.
Have you seen the movie?
Yeah, I love that.
I love his acting.
Like, he's so psycho.
He's so fucking crazy.
It's so funny to me.
But it's really hard because I really have to, like, it's method acting, so you have to really get into character.
So I have to, like, imagine a time where I felt very, like, they said start with torturing animals.
What?
Like, my teachers recommended this.
They're like, oh, think of a time where you, like, abused an animal at one point.
That's how, that's how, yeah, that's how psychopaths are created.
They start by abusing animals, and then they abuse humans later on in life.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm looking for a little prop I have here, but I want to ask, so are your parents, what do your parents think?
Like, are they supportive?
Do they know?
My mom knows.
I think both my parents know, actually.
My mom is supportive of me because my mom's Chinese and she likes money.
So she saw it come in and she's like, oh, okay, you can keep going.
You can keep doing it.
What is that?
All right, do the scene.
Wait, what is this?
It's Huey Lewis in the news.
I don't know.
From American Psycho.
Do you like Huey Lewis?
Here, I'll do it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Here, I'll do it.
Do you like Huey Lewis in the news?
Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste.
But when sports came out in 83, they really came into their own, both commercially and artistically.
Okay.
Cringe.
Cringe.
You said you're doing a scene from American Psycho.
Yeah, but I don't know that scene.
The scene where he kills the guy with the axe?
I'm doing this scene where he has the girl, his assistant, in his room.
Have you seen the full movie?
I've seen the full movie very high, though.
Okay.
Moving on.
Moving on.
Okay.
And did you mention about your parents?
Like, what do they?
Yeah, so I don't have a close relationship with my father.
And with my mom, she knows if I do something and like inter like she's seen the podcast.
She knows I do something like sexy online, but she doesn't really like, she hasn't seen my OF, but she like knows how much I make and she's okay with it.
You know, I'm an adult.
Do you guys like, so outside of OF, do you guys do any sort of arrangement type stuff?
Like sugar daddy shows?
Sugaring or?
I used to have a sugar daddy, but that was like a couple years ago.
This is before OF.
Okay.
But yeah, in the past I have.
Me too.
Do you guys have any patrons who are whales?
What's that?
A whale, just someone like your one patron, maybe two or three patrons that they're the ones that are just dropping like a huge portion of the money.
Like one guy that's just dropped 10K total.
Yes.
Okay.
Definitely.
Okay.
Nice.
Nice.
We'll come back to the OF stuff.
I've got more questions on that.
Let's do a couple super chats here.
So let's see.
Just a reminder, guys, all super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
I'll read Super Chats $10 and up.
We got Logan Paul here.
I want to get pegged by Jada.
I'm down for that, dude.
You want to get pegged?
I never pegged a guy before, but I've always wanted to.
You have a desire to.
I have a desire.
I want to try it out.
Okay.
Ryan, are you down?
For you to peg me?
Yeah.
All right, let's talk after the show.
We'll see what.
Have you ever had anything in your butt?
No.
Okay.
Not like that, but.
Okay.
It can be arranged.
All right.
Kidding.
Kidding.
I'm kidding, guys.
Michael Trilstein, thank you for $51 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate you.
Just highlight it.
I'll get it later.
Sorry, guys.
YouTube won't let me gift tonight because I maxed out El Susan.
Yeah, I don't know why YouTube would have a limit on how much you can super chat.
That just seems stupid to me for whales like you, Michael Trilstein.
But thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Free Joe Exotic.
Yes.
Michael Trilstein, by the way, guys, if you don't know, he is Free Joe Exotic's attorney.
Really?
For real?
No, no, no.
But he's trying to get him out of prison.
Michael Trilstein, $10 Soup Chat, Pink-Haired Asian Beauty, Third Girlfriend, yes or yes.
Yes, of course.
Wait, are you?
Oh, you're a white male.
I would have to.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing about white guys.
It's not like I think white guys are attractive most of the time, sometimes, but I also feel like Asian guys don't get enough representation.
And I'm really close to my culture.
So I prefer Asian guys, but I don't discriminate at the end of the day.
What about Latino men?
Yeah, people of color typically I like to date, but like mostly my dating roster has been Asians.
Like in my OF, I only like premiere Asian guys in my OF because I feel like there's not enough Asian representation in porn and people need to see Asian penis.
Word?
Yes.
Word?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
But so what about black guys?
Black guys, I've had black, I've dated black guys earlier on, but like I, it's hard for me to shoot with them just because their dicks are so big.
It hurts.
Jade, can confirm?
I've seen black dick, but I've never touched it.
Okay.
Like I've seen it on Pornhub and I don't think I could handle it.
Honestly, and to be honest, I don't think it's too big.
It would kill us.
Yeah.
It would just penetrate our stomachs.
But okay, so as far as dating goes, you said that you don't date white guys.
I've had one white boyfriend and he was quite older, like a lot older than me.
Okay.
He was like 115.
No.
But she's 69, so I mean.
I've had one white boyfriend.
It was okay.
I just think there's like a big cultural difference.
Like I had to, like, I had to eat a lot of like his food.
And when it came to like meeting my parents, like he didn't understand why we had to bring them fruit.
And he was just very opinionated on certain things.
And then I don't know.
I just feel more comfortable dating Asian guys.
And I also feel like now that I'm older, I feel like there isn't enough.
Like, I feel like Asian guys do really get the short end of the stick as far as like being able to date and stuff.
It's true.
I mean, it's definitely true.
Yeah.
I think I was looking at the statistics and Asian women marry outside of their race twice as frequently as Asian men do.
Yeah.
So I think it's, I don't know the exact numbers, but it's on Wikipedia.
I think like there's 150,000 Asian men who are married outside their race and then it's like 300.
No, it's got to be more.
I don't know the exact numbers, but it's twice as much.
So yeah, I definitely feel like Asian men are discriminated against when it comes to dating.
Like I'm not saying I'd like discriminate against white men, but if you were to get, like, if I was to like compare like an Asian guy and a white guy who like had around the same personality, same type of stuff, like every time I would go for the Asian guy.
Not saying that I'm just like not.
I think that's fine.
It's your preference.
I think people can have preferences.
I think the most common is like Asian.
I think it's, I think I saw on TikTok, it was like 70% is like Asian female, white male.
Yeah.
Which is good for you.
Yeah.
Right.
Word?
Yeah, I get.
Do you have a type?
Do I like, I wouldn't say I have like a major racial preference.
I'll date, I'll date a white girl, I'll date Latina.
I'll date Asian women, I'll date a black girl.
I will say I've had probably more a disproportionate amount of Asian girlfriends.
Really?
Yes.
Wow.
Not exclusively.
I mean, one of my long-term relationships, she is white.
But yeah, disproportionately, for some reason.
How many Asian girlfriends?
Oh, there was the Vietnamese girl, and then there was the Chinese.
That's a red flag, Jay.
Wait, why?
You know what?
I definitely wouldn't say I have like a Asian fetish or like yellow fever or whatever it's called.
But actually on the race thing, does anyone here like have, I don't know if we should.
Chat, is this like TOS?
I don't know.
One thing I have heard when it comes to the race thing, though, is that, and maybe you can weigh in on this, is that black women have a strong preference to date black men.
Do you have like any preference there?
No, I don't think I have any preference, I don't think.
Got it.
Yeah, and none of my girlfriends have any preferences.
Okay, got it.
Yeah.
What about you?
I typically don't have a preference, but I do like black guys.
And that actually, okay, yeah, I do have a preference.
For black.
That's totally fine.
Oh, please tell me more.
It's okay to have preferences.
But yeah, I have a preference.
I would say more.
Like, I like men with color.
Dark skins or light skins?
All of them.
All of them.
Okay.
Yep.
What about you guys?
No, well, I don't have a preference.
My man's my preference.
Is he Latino?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, I think like men with color as well.
Okay.
RIP for Brian tonight.
No, I'm kidding.
But Michael Trillstein, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
We have, once again, Michael Trillstein with the subsequent $10 soup chat.
Thank you, man.
Is that Jason the Chad from Vegas' sister?
Oh, Jason was on last show.
I do not believe they are related.
Michael Trilstein, get the membership, you frugal Mariposa.
Okay.
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Michael Trillstein with the $10 Soup Chat.
Their girlfriend has large boomerangs.
I believe, Kat, he's talking about you.
Shake them boomerangs.
Oh.
Thanks.
And then we got, yeah, we got Mike Davis here with the $10 Soup Chat.
OF ain't the easy money it once was for these degenerates during the pandemic.
stimulus unemployment etc ran out they should be voting trump 2024 to put some more bread in uh i'm not gonna You almost got me, Mike Davis.
I can't say that word.
What?
Shit.
Okay, never mind.
Do you want to read it?
Because I'm not allowed to say that word.
What?
Oh.
Never mind.
Okay.
Wait, Is that the guy in the picture?
Yeah, actually, can you scoot the picture frame that way so he's kind of like part of the there we go?
Yeah, well, oh, by the way, Mike Davis, are you still in the chat?
We got something for you.
This is going to blow your mind.
I spent many an hour working on this last night.
Eric, can you go ahead and pull it up?
So, guys, we scoured the internet for pictures of Mike Davis.
And as you guys know, he is a proprietor of at least seven Burger King establishments on the East Coast.
And we found you, Mike Davis.
I know you've been trying.
I know that you've been trying to hide your identity, but we found this photo of you in one of your Burger King restaurants.
That's right, Mike Davis.
Wait, this is actually real?
Like, this photo is real?
Wait, no, wait, that is Mike Davis.
Everyone thinks I'm joking about the Burger King.
That's Mike Davis.
Mike Davis is that guy.
It's that guy.
That's Mike Davis.
He owns, or he manages Burger Kings.
Yeah, and Eric, can you pull up the other one too?
The next one?
And this is also Mike Davis.
Yeah, no, we've Photoshop these.
So this is Mike Davis in his, this is his third.
No, actually, this is his first chain that he opened.
So yeah, Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Appreciate it, man.
So we got Everyday Edgar here.
Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Hopefully Mike Davis is still in the chat and caught that.
Everyday Edgar, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Appreciate it, man.
To the two Mexican girls next to Brian.
Don't listen to these OF 30 foes.
This is how you end up alone.
Everyday Edgar shooting shots.
Would you guys like to respond to Everyday Edgar?
You're lonely, but you're rich.
Will you be our boyfriend?
We buy boyfriends.
No, I'm joking.
You don't get that lonely.
We have a plethora of men.
We're not lonely.
We have a plethora of men.
What do you mean by that?
By a plethora of men?
I mean, like, like fans, like, you could just like pick anyone.
I feel like a few.
Pick anyone to what?
To date or fuck.
Wait, would you date a fan?
No.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I feel like you wouldn't be attracted to a fan.
I've been attracted to fans.
Really?
They're like customers.
Don't you?
Well, I don't know if you can give away the game, but like, to some degree, don't you kind of look down on the customers to a degree?
No.
I mean, they're the ones that are effectively like paying my bills.
And I think like OF does sound really cheesy, and it sounds like, to people that haven't experienced it, it sounds cheesy.
But like, you do really get kind of deep with people on like a personal level.
And at first, it does, it is, like, transactional, and it, and it always will be transactional, but you do get to understand people and like the reason why they're on OF.
And like, they are humans, and they realize that I'm a human.
And then I've had, you know, some of my best customers subscribe for a while.
And then, you know, they'll be like, they'll hit me up after a couple months and they'll be like, hey, cat, like, I found a girlfriend.
Like, thank you for like being there.
Well, like, after I've been drunk on those nights, I've been lonely, but like, I just like, it's time for me to leave.
And, like, yeah.
And I'm happy for them.
So you do really form friendships and like bonds on OF.
So have you dated any customers?
I have not dated.
Jaden, what about you?
No.
No?
Not yet.
Is there any because I, I mean, some people do escorting, right?
Like, a lot of porn stars escort on the side.
Have you guys ever considered that?
Oh, Nicole.
Like, how much would you charge?
And you might not even, that might not even be something that you'd be down to do, right?
But like, have you ever considered, hey, 20K for a one-on-one date?
I feel like that'd just be like real.
That's like a lot different than online sex work, even though it is sex work.
Yeah.
We did have a conversation on our podcast about how much it would take for us to fuck Harvey Weinstein.
Oh.
I said I'd do for a Tesla.
Oh, yeah.
I remember now.
For a Tesla or a house or something.
You said a house.
I said a Tesla.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah.
Was this, was this, oh, well, okay.
Jesus Christ.
He's face-palming himself.
Damn.
Okay.
Would you sell yourself?
For what?
Like, how much would you sell yourself for?
If, say, like, how much are you going to pay me to let you peg me?
How much would I pay you to let you.
How much do you want?
Like, what's like your would you do it for like 200?
Fuck no.
And how much?
Fuck no.
Listen.
You think I'm cheap?
You think I'm a cheap bitch.
500?
What do you want?
Huh?
What do you want?
1,000?
I'm expensive.
5,000?
I'm expensive, Jade.
10,000?
I'm expensive, Jade.
Oh, my God.
Wait, how much would you do it for then?
To get pegged by Jade?
Yeah.
I say do it for free because it's priceless.
You know what?
I'm a businessman.
I'm a businessman.
So what's your price?
I want 5% of your OnlyFans earnings moving forward.
Everyone wants a piece.
Everyone wants a piece.
Oh, my God.
That's smart.
But then you'd have to go to the bottom.
I want the residuals.
I want the monthly videos.
So would you let her post videos of posting me, me pegging you?
Once a month, we have an appointment, a pegging appointment.
Jesus.
It's only fair.
I'm kidding, guys.
Chat and chat.
I'm kidding.
Anyways.
Um, okay.
So, um, what was I going to ask?
Oh, okay.
So actually, let me do the super chats and I have one more question related to OnlyFans.
But Mike Davis, thank you for the super chat.
Appreciate it.
Okay, wait.
I already did that.
Wait, did we do this one?
Next one.
We got Hold on Dave on Jackson.
Good to see you back in the chat.
Appreciate you, man.
Thank you for the super chat.
That's the scene he kills Jared Leto.
I appreciate the impression.
Yeah, it's...
Wait, he doesn't kill Jared Leto in the movie.
No.
Yes, he does.
In American Psycho.
Yeah, he has like an axe.
He puts on this raincoat.
It's like the main conceit there, like that he's jealous of Jared Leto's character.
I thought she was very high when she was watching it.
Yeah, so I did forget a lot of it.
We got, by the way, guys, just a reminder, $10 and up to read the chats.
Crispy Kim, thank you for the $10 super chats.
By the way, that's Jason who was on the last show.
Brian, hypothetical question, since I know you're a man of God, if you were to go on a date with Fun Lee, I like that.
I like that.
How would you not pay for the first date?
Okay, so this came up in our last show.
So before I answer that, we'll get the tables take on this.
Who should pay on the first date?
The guy.
Unless I'm not interested in him, then I will offer to split it.
Okay.
Even if he wants.
Jade?
I think the guy should be a gentleman and pay the first date.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm honestly kind of 50-50, but I'm just going to go like what I've done in the past and offer to split.
And then, and if he goes, oh, I got it, then it's his.
Okay.
Yeah.
Personally, I think if it's like we're going on a date and we're going to like, it's pursuing a relationship, then he's going to pay.
Or there's no second date.
So let's say the guy, you're really attracted to him.
Date went great.
There's the chemistry.
But end of the date comes and he says, hey, let's get separate checks.
We ask a waiter for separate checks.
Is it a wrap?
Yeah.
Like you're going to take out to that place then if you can't pay.
Even if he's great.
Yeah.
But okay, I have a question for you.
So you're pretty young.
You're 18, right?
You're in college.
Most people are just like in college.
They're not going out on proper dates.
It's like me to the party.
Let's hook up.
Especially here in Santa Barbara.
I had a guy take me to the weekend concert, pit tickets.
So, honestly, if a guy isn't going to pay for a first date, don't take me to that place, and you're not going to get a second date.
Wait, but in the example you just gave, did he pay?
For the weekend tickets?
Yeah, he paid.
Oh, yeah, and much more.
Okay.
Well, I mean, for something like that, if you're going to invite someone for an event like that, then you'd pay, yeah.
Well, if you're going to invite me on a date, you would pay.
Okay.
What do you guys think?
Yeah, I agree with Jade.
I think the guy should be a gentleman and pay.
Okay.
I agree as well.
Okay.
So pretty much besides you, the guy should pay.
Now, would you say 50-50, right?
But are you going to feel a certain type of way if he does take you up on the 50-50 thing?
Yeah, I think it depends, kind of.
Like, if it's a nicer place, and I was asked to go somewhere, of course, I'm going to offer to pay and only order things that I know I can afford.
But then it's like, you want to go 50-50, so you obviously don't like me as much.
You don't want to pursue a second date.
Or it's just the fact that what I ordered and what you ordered, the price doesn't really match up, and you can't afford both of ours.
So, you know, it really just depends on what I feel, what I gauge the situation was.
Okay.
Yeah.
I also want to emphasize that if it's like a first date versus like a relationship, like obviously if I'm dating the guy, like I'm going to pay, like, I'm going to have a share with him.
Like, but like first date, if the guy asks me, he like slides into my DMs or he like whatever.
Like if he's asking me to go to a specific place, like he should pay.
He's the one inviting me out.
Okay.
Hmm.
All right.
So I'm going to make the table pretty angry at me.
So I don't believe.
Actually, actually, before I make my point, really quick going around the table, do you believe in gender equality?
Oh my God.
And would you consider yourself a feminist?
I would definitely consider myself a feminist, but I, I mean, gender equal, in like what context?
And just like men and women are biologically equal, like all across the board.
I mean, I think there's definitely differences in gender, but I feel like if you're going to talk about our value in society and like how valuable we are, of course we're equal.
I think we offer, but we offer different things.
Each gender has different roles that we are more biologically like inclined to take.
So in that aspect, no, I don't think we're completely even.
Okay.
Jade, your thoughts?
No, I don't believe in gender equality.
I think men are mostly CEOs, and I feel like they run the world.
So what's the opposite of a feminist?
You're Andrew Tate?
Yes.
Yes.
I feel like men hold a lot of power in the world.
Which men?
It's a very small proportion of men.
Like maybe like 1% of the men hold a lot of power.
Right.
But like, for example, say there's a guy like asking girls an appropriate question versus a girl asking guys.
There's always like a two-sided, it's not fair, I feel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like if a girl were to ask a guy inappropriate questions, that's okay on the internet.
But if a guy were to ask a girl inappropriate questions, that's like not cool.
Yeah.
And then we've done that prank video.
We've done that as an experiment.
Oh, yeah?
And?
Well, so I mean, the video was, this is one of our crazy viral videos back in the day.
It was called Asking People for Sex.
I had a girl go up to guys, just point blank say, hey, think you're cute.
Do you want to hook up?
Do you want to have sex?
And she, well, first off, just the responses from the genders were different.
The guys said yes.
And then I did the version where I'd go up to girls just point blank, say, hey, I think you're cute.
Do you want to hook up?
Do you want to have sex?
Actually, most of the girls, like, some girls got offended, but most of the girls just laughed.
They thought it was funny, but they said no, right?
But then when we've showed the clip to the panel before, they're all like, oh, the girl one's okay, but the guy one's, that's, like, inappropriate, creepy.
The girl one's cool, but anyways.
So, okay.
Do you believe in gender equality, feminism?
Do you consider yourself a feminist?
Do I consider myself a feminist?
Yes, but I think that there's kind of like a different definition for feminism, especially for white women and more so people of color.
I don't really align myself with white feminism per se.
Like to give you an example, like is there Latina feminism?
Well, I mean, like, yeah, I would say it kind of divides with people of color and then white feminism, but so much so, like, it's, maybe I should just say intersectionality.
I would agree with you that the origins of feminism were extremely racist.
Yeah.
Especially they wanted to exclude black women.
And I'm not a particular fan of feminism, but and I'd have to tell you what my definition of feminism is, but your take.
I think that gender roles are never going to be equal, honestly.
Okay.
So you can try as hard as you want to make things equal, but it's never going to be equal.
So would you consider yourself a feminist?
I'm kind of on the fence with it.
Okay, that's totally fine.
Go ahead.
I don't consider myself a feminist because I am a stay-at-home mom.
So my man's the breadwinner.
So I don't think I really.
I don't think I really believe.
It wasn't me.
It was Eric.
I don't think I really believe in gender equality.
And I think that's also part of the Hispanic culture.
Like it's very, like, we're not really feminists.
Like, we're more of like, oh, the husband's the breadwinner.
The wife stays home and takes care of the kids and the house and stuff like that.
So.
Okay.
What do you think?
I think I'm a feminine.
Sorry.
I think I am.
I think that women also have power to do most of the things that men do, but I don't know.
That's good.
Do you have a kid too?
No, I don't.
Okay, got it, got it, got it.
Cool.
I don't know why I'm derailing the conversation a little bit.
But okay, so I guess my question, and I still need to address the super chat here.
How do you reconcile believing in gender equality, but also thinking that, and I know some of you didn't, but maybe more so for you two.
You said the guy should pay on the first date, but you also believe in gender equality.
How do you reconcile that?
I said I believe in gender equality as far as like saying that like men and women are equally valuable in society.
But I don't think that we have gender equality as far as like certain roles that we take on.
So I think males are naturally, biologically even like fall into, fall into more of like the care or like the hunter-gatherer like role.
Like they're, they bring like back in the Caveman days, they were bringing back the food and hunting the food, and then women were like the caretakers at the house.
So I think I have a more traditional ideology on from that aspect.
Gotcha.
All right, so I guess where I was going with this is I won't pay on the first date.
You know what I'm saying?
Huh?
How do you do it then?
So I'll pay for my own food.
I'm not expecting the girl to pay for me, so I believe in like the 50-50.
And you've had Asian girlfriends?
Yep.
That is so surprising.
We are in California.
It's pretty liberal.
I mean, Santa Barbara is pretty liberal.
I feel like for most Asian girls, maybe more Americanized Asian girls, less traditional ones, I feel like maybe they'd let that slide.
They were like for Their parents were immigrants.
Okay.
So, like, not they were born in the U.S., but parents were immigrants.
Yeah.
I mean, actually, no, one of the girls just, she just, she was a simp.
She paid for everything.
The Chinese girl, right?
The Vietnamese girl.
Wow.
Surprisingly.
Like, to just right off the bat.
Yeah, she'd like just bring me food all the time and pay for everything.
Well, to be fair, we didn't like go out a lot, but she'd just like bring over food and shit.
Wow.
She's also.
Wait, I'm not going to say that.
So, like your mother?
She was crazy.
Like, what did she do though?
That's the trade-off.
See, that's the trade-off that you get.
The crazy hotel.
That's what you wanted.
Oh, because of the food buying?
Yeah, because if she's going to be a simp for you, that means she's fucking crazy for you.
So she's going to control every other part of your life.
Well, no, I was in charge, but she would pay.
She was like a simp.
Wait, but the hell was she crazy?
Well, she had borderline personality disorder.
She was like very needy.
I'll say this.
The very first time we hung out, she went through my phone and got pissed at me.
Like, first time hanging out.
Red water.
Aboard.
Abort.
Abort.
I ended up dating her for five years, but that's a.
Oh, my gosh.
That was.
Do not recommend.
Do not recommend.
Wow.
I was young and naive.
I was young and naive.
But okay, so to get to the date thing, yeah, I don't really pay on the first date.
There are some exceptions where I will pay.
What are the exceptions?
Okay, so I'm 33.
If I'm dating someone who's, say, like between 18 to 23, if they're like in college, then okay.
But first date, nah.
Did you want to say something?
No.
And I'll tell you why.
Well, well, okay.
Gone are the days of people being truly single.
Like people are dating multiple people at the same time.
So I would feel bad if I like adhered to my traditional gender roles of paying for a date.
If the girl's like fucking three other dudes or fucking one other dude, two other dudes, three other dudes.
Like for me, it's just I don't even want to, no offense to anybody here, but maybe I'm old-fashioned.
Like I want a girl to be truly single, even off rip on the first date.
If she's got another guy, she's entertaining, she's sleeping with this guy over here.
That's fine.
You can do it.
But just for me, like, I don't want it.
Would that mean that you're also truly single on the first date?
Or?
Yeah.
What do you mean, like, yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah.
Like, what's the trade-off?
Yeah, of course.
Well, like, is that like a, yeah, of course I'm lying?
Well, yeah, of course I'm being fucking.
I'm really on, like, I'm super busy.
Like, I'm really on my on my purpose.
Like, I'm working really hard.
I got my business.
I don't have time to be, like, juggling three chicks.
I don't have time for it.
So, like, if I'm talking to a girl, like, if I sleep with a girl, for sure, she's the only one I'm sleeping with.
Yeah, like, I mean, most people, they're going to be maybe dating, but like, sleeping with the girl, yeah, I'm probably just one at a time.
Right.
Because I'm not interested in one night stands either.
Like, to me, that's a, it's a waste of fucking time for me.
Like, if I'm gonna take you, go on dates and, like, do all that, do the whole dance or whatever, like, I want to pursue that.
It's not worth it to me to sleep with a girl one time and then never see her again.
So, are you like dating for marriage per se?
No, no, no, I'm not gonna get married.
Ever?
That's what if you fall in love?
Yeah, we can be a little bit.
Are you upfront with that?
I could with the girls that you date, do you tell them that from like from the get?
If they ask, I'll tell them.
Okay, if they ask.
Every girl should ask then.
Every girl I ask.
No, but I mean I could have a life partner, but marriage.
Wait, why?
Why?
Why?
What's the difference?
Because men lose in marriage overwhelmingly.
What about hit her with the prenub?
Well, maybe you guys, because you guys might end up being the breadwinners in your relationships.
I mean, you guys are high earners, but like the way that the court system is set up and the way the marriage laws are in most Western countries, no fault divorce, like it's women are incentivized for divorce.
They're incentivized towards divorce.
They get half, they get the money.
So it's just, and then you get the government involved, then you got to pay for the lawyers.
And it's just, why do we need the government involved in our love?
Well, from a woman's perspective, though, like, I don't think women, I don't think it works in favor of women because the older women get, the more, like, it sounds really crude, but like the more they depreciate, right?
So like, you could divorce your wife at 50 and then start all over and marry a 25-year-old girl and just be just fine.
And even though she gets half of your money, she doesn't necessarily want to start all over and she can't get like a 25-year-old guy.
And if she does, he might just be in it for the money and he's going to leave her.
Like she can't, it's hard for her to find true love where it's not as hard for you.
So I feel like that's the trade-off right there.
I mean, in the past, it made sense because women were not engaging in the labor pool as frequently as men are.
But now, I mean, women are going to college.
Actually, women are, there are more women in college and there are more women who are getting graduate degrees or undergraduate degrees.
I think it's like 60-40 is the split in universities.
So in today's day and age, women are making their own money.
They're getting their own bag.
So the alimony laws are outdated.
And there's a bias in the court system against men.
So it's just a bad bet.
And then you get divorced.
And also, women initiate like 80% of divorces.
Wait, is that a real statistic?
Can we fact check that?
That's like, is that in the almanac or something?
Like, I feel like that's a made-up statistic, Brian.
No, I think I think it's real.
Women initiate 80%.
Like, how do you know?
Can I ask you, we can go around the table on this.
And Jason, I will get back to your super chat on the first date thing.
Of the breakups that you've had, would you say you've initiated that more or has the guy initiated that more?
Of the times you've had to either break up with someone or say, hey, I don't want to continue seeing you.
So I guess that's not, you know, because sometimes you've been seeing someone for, you know, four dates.
That's not really a relationship where you're going to do a proper breakup.
But of the times you've ceased a relationship of any duration?
I think it's been half.
Half.
I've only had like four relationships.
Okay.
So two times you were dumped and two times you dumped them?
Yeah.
Like I feel like my last two relationships, I ended in like the beginning two days.
Okay.
What about you, Jane?
No, I started the breakups, except for one.
Okay.
One guy fucked me up.
He fucked you up.
He was like very toxic.
He wrote in a diary about little tactics to do, like how to sleep with women.
Yeah.
He had a diary?
Yeah, did you read it?
I read it.
I did read it.
Was it like he was cooking?
No, he left it on the table.
It was like he wanted me to read it.
What the?
So I was confused.
Did it also have his body count?
Like his.
Yeah, every girl that he was dating, like he had a list and comparison, and he would compare all the girls.
Oh, like all the girls he was dating at one time?
No, I think in his past, in his whole past, and he had a whole diary.
Archiving that shit.
Okay, how many were there?
I would say there was like four.
Oh, I thought it was going to be like 50.
But like detailed, like paragraphs on each four and their characters and their personalities.
Yeah, he was toxic.
Wow.
Goddamn.
Wait, so okay, so of all the times you've had to say, hey, I don't want to see you anymore, you'd say all but one you initiated.
Yeah.
What about you?
I've actually never really been in that actual relationship.
You know what?
I forgot to do this at the beginning.
We need to do the.
Shoot.
Well, okay, we'll do this.
So I forgot to.
Normally I do this like after the intros, but we started talking about the OnlyFans stuff.
So we'll go around the table really quick on this.
Jason, I will get back to your super chat.
Current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
And that includes seeking arrangements.
Go ahead.
It was.
Oh, current relationship status, single.
What is it?
Longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
Longest relationship, four years, which is my first relationship.
And am I on dating apps?
Yes, Hinge.
I'm currently single.
My longest relationship was three and a half years.
And I am currently on Coffee Meets Bagel.
Current relationship status, single.
Longest relationship.
Never been in one, really.
On dating apps, yes, Tinder.
So you've never been in a relationship?
Not like that.
What is the longest period of time that you've seen a guy?
Maybe he didn't end up becoming your boyfriend, so to speak.
But what's the longest period of time?
I mean, I didn't have a lot of time.
I've been focused on school, really.
Zero?
Yeah.
Like, I mean, like, I've talked to people, like, text them, and then, like.
But you've been on dates before, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it'll be like one or two dates, and like, that's it.
So, like.
And you ghost them, or they ghost you?
It's more just like a, I don't know how to describe it.
It's like, well, I'm doing school, and you're probably doing school or your job or whatever you have to do.
It's more like, you know.
Are these like one-night stands?
No, no, no, no.
Are you a virgin?
Like, I don't want to answer that.
Okay, that's a yes.
Go ahead.
My current relationship status is single, and the longest relationship I was in was on and off for about two years.
Okay.
Rock and roll.
By the way, no shame at all.
No, no, no, no.
You're good.
Props to you.
Go ahead.
So I'm actually married.
So that's my longest relationship I've been in.
Congrats.
Thank you.
I've been with him for nine years.
Oh, shit.
High school sweethearts?
Yeah.
Is he watching right now?
Yeah, he is actually.
He's so cute.
Oh, my gosh.
My current relationship status is single, and my longest relationship, I'll say three years.
Yeah, and I'm not on any dating app.
Okay.
Good times.
Okay, so where were we going there?
Okay, so of the men who you've dated.
Okay, I remember.
Sorry, guys.
Here, let me play this for me.
Of the times that you've had to break up with someone or the relationship, however long it's been, are you initiating the end or is the guy?
Getting tongue-twisted here.
Sorry, guys.
You're asking me, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
In my on and off relationship, it was mostly him up until the end.
Can you tilt the microphone down towards you a bit?
And can you just project your voice just a little bit louder?
Yeah, sorry.
You're fine.
In my two-year relationship, that was on and off.
It was mostly him.
And then the end, the last time, it was me.
But in like little things I have or like situations, it's usually me.
Okay, usually you.
Go ahead.
So I've only been in one relationship prior to this one, but I broke up with him because he was kind of boring.
Ah, he was boring.
Yeah.
Okay.
So your current husband is extremely exciting and he's the opposite of me.
He's super outgoing and I'm like shy.
Okay, got it.
What about you?
Do you more often end it or does the guy more often end it?
I think I do because I just tend to change my attitude or like the way I text him because I'm not interested.
So I think then I'm like, okay, I don't want to talk to you no more, you know?
Yeah, so I mean, just I guess where I was going with this is that it's a bad bet for men to get married for a myriad of reasons, but one of those it's more likely more women are more likely to initiate it.
So but does that does that like I don't understand why that like maybe it's because men later on in life, maybe they like cheat on their wives.
Like do you do you expect women just to like stay with their husbands after being cheated on?
Like maybe the man like you know what I'm saying?
Like that doesn't really I don't feel like that really says anything.
That doesn't say that the woman's divorcing the man to get half his money.
Especially now when you say that women make their own money, right?
Not necessarily.
Well, okay, I'll say this.
So 50% of marriages end in divorce.
80% of divorces are initiated by women.
I already said that.
90% of child support payments go from men to women.
97% of alimony payments go from men to women.
It's just, it's a really bad bet for men.
Like you shouldn't enter into a contract with someone who's rewarded for breaking it.
And by the way, I have a list here of some men who have been divorced.
You can sign a prenup, though.
You can contractually say, you know, put these things on paper and still be, you know, still be part of like, still raise like a nuclear family, try to, a traditional family.
Well, the issue with prenups is prenups can get thrown out.
And very often, like, all the woman has to say, or I guess the man could say it too if the prenup is kind of unfavorable towards him.
I was under duress.
I was pressured to sign it.
And then it gets thrown out.
I mean, I think with Dr. Dre, the prenup he had with his wife got thrown out and he got took to the fucking washer.
She took him for like, she wanted like six figures a month in spousal support.
It's just like fucking, I mean, I know he's extremely wealthy, but shit's fucking crazy.
So yeah, prenups get thrown up.
Guys, I'm telling you, prenups are not ironclad.
Like you, they can be maneuvered or maneuvered around.
Even if you have a lawyer draft that shit up, they can still come after you.
And also in some, let me try to think in Canada, you're from Canada, right, Jade?
Yeah.
There was recently a case where, oh, you're also from Canada.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Eric, I don't know if you're on the other window, you can pull it up.
There was this case where this guy wasn't even married to a woman.
It was just his girlfriend, super wealthy guy.
They were living together, I think, just his girlfriend.
And he had to not married.
He had to pay her after the breakup, not for child support, but support, because he was providing her with a certain lifestyle or some bullshit.
So even if you're not married, guys, if you're in Canada, Canada's a lost cause, but no offense, Jade.
Whoa, I didn't know that.
Eric, pull up the article if you can find it.
Something like Canada man has to pay girlfriend not married.
I don't know.
Try to see if you can find it.
How did she do that?
Like, she really finessed him.
Yeah, how did she do that?
Good for her.
No, bad for her.
Bad for him, bro.
That sounds like a really outlier case.
It is an outlier.
If you're getting married, though, I feel like if you're married, like, if I marry someone, like, his, my income becomes his income.
Like, you're a team.
Like, you can't see it as like me versus them or like, oh, like, you're going to take advantage of me.
Like, I feel like if you're really going to like be in a marriage, you have to see it as like, we do this for each other.
There's no like, oh, I did this for you.
You did this for me.
It's just like you guys are one unit.
Okay, I mean, I'll give you that, that if you guys have, if, if your income potential or your earnings are commensurate, then sure, if you're a guy, I mean, there's some other downfalls too, because, I mean, divorce, then the lawyers get involved.
I mean, if your incomes are equal, you guys are probably going to still lose money, both of you, because you got to get the lawyers involved.
And then, so that's a whole nother thing.
But yeah, if you're a girlfriend, your future wife is going to be a breadwinner or you're making the same amount of money, then there's like less of a risk from the financial component.
But it's still a bad.
Look at it as a business.
It's love.
It's marriage.
Like, I feel like, who hurt you, Brian?
Like, are you like, who hurt you?
It's not about who hurt me.
It's just the marriage is a partnership and it's a financial one.
I mean, there's other components to it, but there's a financial component to a relationship.
And actually, most marriages, the leading cause, I think the main cause of divorce is financial issues.
So, I mean, of course, I think the financial component to it is definitely important.
I mean, love, that's cool, I guess.
But yeah, it's just, sure, if your girlfriend's making good money, then I guess okay.
It's only one way.
but if you're the breadwinner then you you have to be you have to make a more calculated decision about also the thing is is like the only scenario where i would genuinely get married Okay, what are the vows, right, that people say?
Till death do us part.
50% of marriages end in divorce.
That shit ain't death till you part.
So people's words mean nothing.
Like, till death do us part.
That has to mean something.
If I'm going to marry a girl, that shit's for life.
Like there is no, I mean, yeah, I guess I could be divorced, but like I would have to be so fucking certain that she's the one.
And even then, like, shit changes, you know?
Who knows what could happen?
I'm sure most people, when they get married, they're not anticipating, yeah, we're probably going to be divorced in three years, you know?
So, but I don't know.
People's words don't mean anything.
Like, if I say for life, I meet me at least, I mean that shit.
So, but I have a list here of some men who have been divorced.
Okay.
Is this like a random kind of thing?
Or like you just like, you had people like, if you're divorced, like, tell us why.
Like, is this from a random generated pool?
Of men?
Yeah.
No, these are celebrities.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Like, very high status men that if they're getting divorced, what chance does a regular guy stand?
Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Dr. Dre, Ryan Reynolds, Tom Brady, Lance Armstrong, Alex Rodriguez, Channing Tatum, Chris Rock, Ben Affleck, Chris Pratt, Liam Hensworth, Ben Stiller, David Dukovny, Orlando Bloom, Tiger Woods, Sean Penn, Sylvester Stallone, Paul McCartney, Ryan Felipe, Jason Momoa, and Michael Jordan.
Those are not like data points.
Some of those, they're divorced, though.
Yeah, they're soardies.
Some of those, like the, like, those guys did some pretty mean things to their wives.
So obviously their wives are kind of going to stand for that, you know?
Like, I mean, most of these guys are good guys.
Some of them may be.
How are you going to say they're good guys and you only see the public perception of them?
You don't know them personally.
Oh, no, Brad Pitt's kind of a fucking legend in my books.
Brad Pitt, are you kidding me?
What do you mean?
Brad Pitt.
There's literally like pictures of his ex-wife like absolutely shouting with joy leaving her lawyer's office for like because she gonna get the bag.
Bro, because he's probably like crazy, bro.
No, honestly, and here's the other thing like you gotta worry about with marriage and like having children is they can manufacture false accusations of child abuse, spousal abuse.
Like, and they're gonna use that to lev as leverage in divorce proceedings and custody disputes.
So I guess I'm saying these names because these are very high status men.
A lot of them are exceptionally attractive, wealthy.
If high status, super good-looking, high-status men, wealthy men, can't keep a woman.
What chance does the fucking average guy have?
Because they're probably cheating on their women.
I mean, like, we're saying, like, things are superficial and stuff.
And then you go back and we're like, we don't want anything superficial.
But it's like, behind everything else, behind being super attractive or super rich, you could also be really terrible.
And that takes a toll on people, you know?
Like, I don't understand why somebody would just stay with a guy.
Like, oh, he's emotionally and mentally abusing me, but he's so hot and he's so rich.
Like, no, no one realistically is going to do that.
I don't know.
And obviously their wives didn't because they got divorced, or at least some of those people.
I don't know.
My sense is that, yeah, maybe some of these guys, there was some infidelity going on, but.
come on, Brad Pitt.
Hello?
Yeah, that's like a bit of a drink.
Bro, do you want to marry Brad Pitt so bad?
Like, you're like writing him so hard right now.
Day for pay.
Honestly.
Brad Pitt, my DMs are open.
You know what?
I would actually, I would have an I would have an asexual romantic relationship with Brad Pitt.
And would you marry him?
No sex, but like I'd fucking be his partner.
You marry him?
Would I what?
You would marry him.
Sure.
And then if I and then do you guys part, you guys are just forever together.
Get your grades together.
Everything enshrined.
Like, wow.
I'm not going to front.
Brad Pitt is hotter than a lot of these chicks out here.
I'm just going to say it.
Interesting.
Sus.
Sus.
Okay.
Are you sure you didn't want to be pegged for cheaper?
Right.
Like, the warning signs are here, okay?
The closet, glass.
It's okay.
We're powerful people.
We're in a liberal area.
Like, we're all really good people.
I may not be super rich or good looking, but you can trust me.
Wait, so you want to get in on the pegging?
No, no, no, no.
I want you to come out today.
That's what I want.
To come out as asexual, gay, like whatever you're comfortable with, you know?
Wait, chat.
That's a comfortable thing.
Chat, would, come on, guys.
Would you guys go for Brad Pitt?
Brad Pitt is so one in the chat if you'd get with Brad Pitt.
I don't think Brad Pitt is attractive anyway, so I don't even know.
You chose Brad Pittsburgh.
Brad Paris out of Ryan Reynolds is crazy.
Absolutely crazy.
You had Ryan Reynolds in that limit in the chat.
He's a great actor, though.
You guys would not date Brad Holton.
Absolutely not.
We'll go one by one.
Would you date Brad Pitt?
No.
Well, you're married.
No.
Really?
Yes.
Ryan Reynolds.
You had Ryan Reynolds.
You had Madly anybody else and you chose Brad Pitt.
Like, really?
Brad Pitt is, I mean, Ryan Reynolds, personality-wise, I don't know.
What?
Deadpool man.
I don't know.
On Ryan Reynolds.
He's a stud muffin.
Brad Pitt has the more.
Ryan Reynolds is funnier, but Brad Pitt just in a zombie apocalypse.
In a zombie.
Although Brad Pitt's kind of old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, God, this is sus.
Yeah.
Wait, don't show, Eric.
Don't show this.
Don't.
Don't show this.
Keep it going.
Yeah, keep it going.
Okay, last one.
Last one.
There we go.
Lone tardigrade.
Jesus Christ.
Okay.
I've super derailed this conversation.
Okay, I got to get back to the soup chat.
By the way, guys, get your soup chats in.
Let's see.
So, okay, I want to get back to.
Are you okay?
Is it hurting?
Yeah, it's like a little tire.
I'm going to change out of it in a bit.
Okay.
If you want, you can just pop that piece off, like just here at the table.
Like this.
Just this piece?
Yeah, just the red thing.
No, no, the whole thing.
Oh, the whole thing's tight.
It's like tight on my chest.
Okay.
What's on, dude?
I'll stick it for like five more minutes and I'll take it off.
Or you can just leave it on the rest of the show.
I mean, then.
You want me to leave it on this?
That's what you like.
It looks good.
I think it looks good.
Is that your fetish?
Probably Anime Girls.
Sailor Moon.
No.
Oh.
But you really wanted me to wear this.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
It was like a passing.
It was like a passing, like, Jade.
I mean, if you really want.
I mean, to be fair, you were in like pajamas.
So I was like, how can we spice up the attire a little bit?
You know?
Your shoe is in sporting gear.
And I feel like more people are going to sub on your OnlyFans wearing this than what you were wearing before.
So I was looking out for you.
If you're uncomfortable, you should change.
Jade, I was looking forward to that.
Yeah, whatever you're comfortable.
I thought your outfit was cute.
Yeah, I would wear it.
That's on brand for you guys.
Also, by the way, are you guys going to do a promo code for whatever?
Like for you guys as OnlyFans, you guys should do a promo code.
I'm not saying give me a cut.
I'm just saying do a promo code like 10%, 20%.
It's already like 75% off.
Your first month is like five bucks.
Okay.
All right, so let me do address the who should pay on first date thing.
Okay, so pulling this back up, Jade, can you read this?
Because I know you're dying to read it.
Brian, hypothetical questions.
Since I know you're a man of God, if you wait, that one?
If you were to go on a date with Fun Lee, how would you not pay for the first date?
So I'll tell you what I'll do to not pay.
First off, you can do some shit that's free.
Go for a walk, go to the beach.
You can do that.
I'm not really big on that.
I'll typically meet for like coffee or tea, or because I'm not a big drinker, I don't really drink like that.
Sometimes I'll meet at a quiet lounge.
I don't like bars or clubs, so I don't really like.
So quiet lounge, have a glass of wine, a beer.
Here's what you do, guys.
Here's what you do.
You arrive early, five to ten minutes early, and it depends.
I mentioned this in the last show.
If there's a waiter, if you're early, the waiter comes up and you're like, hey, separate checks at the end before the girl arrives.
So it's not an awkward thing.
Like when the waiter comes, you have to beforehand say separate checks.
Wow.
Or what you do if you arrive at the bar or the lounge early and there's not a waiter, you go to the bar, you already get your drink, then you go sit in the booth, and then you already have your drink because even if you're five, ten minutes early, she's going to be late.
She's going to be five, ten minutes late anyway.
So you get your drink, then you already have your drink.
Then when she arrives, she's like, you say, oh, I already got my drink.
Go ahead and get yourself a drink.
I'll save the table.
Boom.
Wow.
And then you don't have to pay.
No, never do food dates.
Don't do food dates.
But then how do you get them to go out with you?
What do you mean?
On coffee, for example, I'll be like, let's meet at Starbucks at 7 p.m. or whatever it is.
But do girls agree to that?
Do like a majority of girls agree?
Agree to meet me for dates?
Yeah.
For like coffee or like coffee or a drink somewhere.
I don't do walks.
I'll meet either for coffee or I'll meet for like a drink.
I feel like there's I've got some spots.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
The Ritz is good.
Can I just ask a question?
Yeah, go ahead.
So you've been doing using this tactic for a while.
Like how many of those like stuck?
Like 30, because you're 33.
How many of those stuck from like, say, like 29 to like your current age?
I'm sorry.
I keep on banging my nails on the table.
No, don't even trip.
Yeah.
So I, and by the way, guys, you're going to lose girls if you do this shit.
But here's the thing: I'm a man of principle.
Principle.
I am a man of principle.
And, you know, listen, I'm an egalitarian.
I believe in equality.
So, you know, yeah, you know.
Did they get mad at you?
Do they get mad?
Yeah, when you do that, do they ever like throw you shade or anything?
You know, the thing is, is that Santa Barbara is a pretty liberal place.
So a lot of girls are, they would probably identify politically as pretty liberal.
So, I mean, I feel like most liberal, I mean, I don't know.
There's a lot of women who are like feminist until the check comes.
So I've definitely lost girls because of it, for sure.
But like, I'm not, it's okay.
Okay.
It's not all.
Jade, it's not all about the money.
It's about the money.
You have your co-host to keep you company, you know?
That's what I, I think.
Yeah, no, I mean, look, guys, if you do this shit, especially if you do this somewhere that's not as liberal as California, you're going to lose girls if you don't pay for girls on the first date.
But yeah, it hasn't been a major issue for me.
So it's not because we don't have the money to pay for our own meal.
You know that, right?
It's not because it's like we're too cheap to like.
It's the principle.
Yeah, it's the principle.
He's making his own.
Wait, why is it the principle that the guy should pay?
Well, I feel like in order for a big indicator of how invested a guy is, and to me, I think is like how much monetarily he'll invest.
And I'm not saying like how many gifts he can give us, but it's like acts of service and just something as little as like paying for a meal.
It doesn't have to be like, it doesn't have to be like a really expensive meal, but just the gesture of like paying for a meal, I think, is a way to kind of gauge if a guy is serious about you or not.
If I was to go on a guy who wanted to split the check, I feel like he's not really serious about me or he doesn't like me.
I mean, I would actually counter and say that in today's day and age where there's women who are going on dates specifically to get a meal out of guys, it's called a foodie call.
I'm not saying all women do this, but definitely there are women who do it.
Like, I actually think if we want to talk about determining the seriousness in which we're engaging in the courtship process, I actually think women should be paying the whole fucking thing.
I turn this shit on you.
Here's why.
I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
Because men, like, if we go on a date with a girl, like, we probably, we have a genuine interest in at least sleeping with you.
And that's like all we have to ourselves is just like to sleep with us.
Like, well, here, like, okay, I'm sure women will go on a date with a guy because they're bored.
They're like, I got nothing better to do.
I guess I'll, I guess.
Some women, not all women, but some women will go, and guys don't do this to women.
Well, one, because they can't, because there's an expectation that men should pay on the dates, but women will go on foodie calls.
So they have no romantic interest in the guy, and they will just go on the date just to get a free meal, get a free experience.
That's so rare.
I know that.
I feel like that happens to like the 1% on Reddit, and they're like, this happened.
No, it didn't.
Like, walk in.
They actually, it was a university in Southern California.
No, there's a university in Southern California.
They did a study on this.
And something like 33% of the female respondents said that at some point in time, they did do a foodie call.
Come on, you don't have a guy in your phone that's food, uber.
Come on.
I'm going to admit.
Yeah, I've done that before.
I made a guy order me like Uber Eats when he's living in another country.
So I've done that before.
Yeah.
But the guys are so willing to do it.
Simps.
Yeah.
Simps.
I mean, if they want to do it, I'm not going to openly go through my phone and see these messages on Tinder and scroll through them.
And there's men begging to take you out.
They're doing it to themselves, honestly.
Well, yeah, I mean, that is sort of the, I mean, the whole idea of whoever is.
I don't want to take them seriously, act serious.
Make it clear that you're serious about what you're doing.
I could have totally serious intentions to date a girl and not want to pay for her shit.
But like, you're just going to promise her that with your words that you say don't really matter, especially in like a marriage situation.
But like how many.
How do you show her that you're not just trying to fuck her and use her?
How does she know?
But how many girls, how many times does a guy pay only to hit it and quit it?
Like, I don't think a guy paying is a great metric of this guy's going to take you seriously.
It's a better metric than him asking you to split the check.
That way I know.
Do you think it's more likely that he'll hit and quit it if he has to split the check?
Yes.
Yeah.
Really?
I mean, in my eyes, like, if you're pursuing a relationship and you ask the girl on the first date, you would pay.
But if you're just trying to be friends with benefits or like something, or it's like further in a relationship, like something like that, it would be fine to split it because it's not as formal as wanting to pursue a relationship with this woman that you're asking to go on the date with.
You're taking this person there.
You're asking for them to come meet you there or wherever, however it's getting to this location, like you're putting in the effort.
So you might as well just finish the effort that you're putting in.
No, I mean, listen, I realize I have a very peculiar position.
I think a lot of men would disagree with me on this also.
A lot of men disagree with me on this one.
But it's just the shitty hill that I'm going to die on, I guess.
Like, I'm just, that's just my position, you know?
And it, like, look, I've already said it.
Guys, if you do the whole, you're going to lose girls.
Like, some girls want the guy to pay.
They're going to, it's going to be a turn off or whatever it may be.
So, but to me, I'm like, I'm an egalitarian.
I am a true egalitarian.
So in my experience, the one date that I went on, I offered to split it because I knew I could pay for my food.
Based.
Fucking legend.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Your legend.
Thank you.
Yeah.
But, you know, thank you.
He paid for it, right?
But then I said, oh, if you're down for a second date, then I have the next one.
And that's what I did.
Like, I feel like it's a trade-off, you know?
And that's nice of you.
The thing is, though, is that a lot of dates don't make it to the second date.
That's the other thing, too.
Like, in the past, when guys were maybe, there's a greater expectation for men to pay.
In today's day and age, the likelihood of any, of a first date going further than that is greatly diminished.
Like back in, you know, say even 10, 20, 30 years ago, 40, 50 years ago, if you took a girl on a date, there's a pretty good likelihood that there's going to be a second date.
There's a pretty good likelihood that it's going to go further.
I mean, the further back in time you go, bro, 1950s, 1960s, first date, maybe you go on three dates, you date three different guys, and then the third one, that's your husband.
Today, like, people have so many options.
So there's a greater financial burden on men if the likelihood of any given date goes the distance.
I mean, I can speak from experience.
Like, I would say most first dates for me don't go past, I'd say 50%.
I'd say about 50% of first dates don't go past the first date.
Right.
And so, like, would you say that that's more like you should reflect and like see what you can improve on for the next date?
Or like, like, are we like working towards like bettering ourselves for like a new date?
Or are we just kind of like wallowing in like us, like, oh, dang, there's like no other date?
Like, what are we doing here?
What do you mean?
Like, I don't understand.
Like, so you don't get a second date, you know?
Assumably, like, she could just not like me.
It's not necessarily that I did anything wrong.
Maybe I did do something wrong, but I mean, women often talk about chemistry.
And, like, you know, the thing is, is that, well, sorry, go ahead.
Continue with your question.
No, no, no.
Like, I just want to know, like, so, say, you really like this girl, right?
Yeah.
But then there's no second date.
Do you ever like reflect and you're like, wait, dang, like, what did I do wrong?
Because obviously there's a pattern of dates not making it to the second date, since hence why you're going on more dates, right?
And you're catching yourself in this position.
So, like, are you reflecting on like why these dates aren't being pushed further?
Or are we just kind of being like, oh, well, time to go on a new date and then be like, well, it's her not being into me.
Are you saying that I should try to be persistent?
No, because I mean, I'm asking.
I'm not like a pushy guy like that.
And that's perfectly fine, but I just want to know, like, are you going to be a little bit more?
Yeah, if I fuck up on a date, I'm going to be like, okay, I did this wrong.
I got to maybe adjust here.
Maybe I was a bit nervous.
Yeah, of course, there's reflection, but I mean, sometimes it just comes down to, and sometimes I don't want to pursue it too.
Sometimes I don't want to have a second date.
But yeah, certainly there's some degree of, you know, and sometimes it's just you're not, it wasn't a match.
And I mean, what I'll do is before I even go on a date with a girl, I want to hop on the phone and talk for like at least 20, 30 minutes.
Oh, okay.
Feel it out.
Because I want to, like, I've done that in order to potentially avoid the whole date.
So I can like get a feel for her.
Right.
Because, you know, you can text and everyone's real fucking clever when they can have a few seconds to think.
And, you know, you can feel things out much better over a phone conversation.
So almost universally, I'm going to hop on the phone with a girl before I meet her in person.
Okay.
So I'll screen it there.
And I've definitely opted to not go on a date with a girl that I was otherwise thinking about going on a date with because we had a phone conversation.
I was just didn't, I wasn't feeling it.
Maybe, and it also gives them an option to opt out too.
Maybe they don't like my fucking voice, you know, whatever the fucking reason may be.
It gives both parties an option to opt out.
So I'll always do a phone call before first date.
So, yeah, sometimes in person, like, I'm kind of, I'm kind of weird, so I don't know.
Weird how.
Like, here's a reflection.
Like, we're building on something.
Where's the weirdness coming from?
Yeah, I'll lay back in the couch.
So, I mean, like, like, I'm not super flirty on dates.
I guess, you know, but no, it's just, you know, I don't know.
Like, you could go up to, you can get a girl just by saying, oh, hey, let's role play.
Okay, Jay.
Role play.
Tell me how to get a girl.
So you want me to be you?
You be the guy, I'll be the girl.
Let's role play.
Okay.
Hey, how's it going?
Oh, hi.
You have really nice eyes.
Thanks.
I can tell you're a kind soul.
Thank you.
Do you have a band-aid?
What?
Do you have a band-aid?
No?
Because I scraped my knee falling for you.
It's a good one.
It's good.
Yeah.
Did you see that coming?
Or do you want to come later?
Wow, that's really wow.
Ew, that's forward.
Oh, okay.
That's really forward.
I just want to make you laugh.
I just want to see you smile.
You have a really nice smile.
He's blushing.
I have no ultimate ris, not hatred.
So, like, how about we go out to dinner Saturday night?
Where?
You free?
Maybe.
Come on, I know you're free.
You got nothing to do.
On Saturday?
Yeah.
Actually, me and my girls were going to.
Well, you can tell your girl to come with.
To dinner?
Yeah.
You're going to pay?
I'll pay for everything, yeah.
But you've already lost.
I'm sorry, but you just lost right there.
What?
Can I get two girls on a dinner date?
Can I take, okay.
Come on, that's a win.
Taking two girls with her.
Can I take three of my girlfriends with me?
I would say two.
So three total?
No, two.
Oh, somebody's a man.
You can bring a friend.
And a girl.
And I'll bring my friend.
And we can have a double date kind of thing.
A two-man.
Okay.
Yeah, a two-man.
Okay.
How about that?
Yo, Becky.
I'm going to fast the shit out of this jiggard.
Okay, can we get sushi?
You want sushi?
Yeah, I want sushi.
Where can we go?
How about burgers?
Burgers.
Do you like burgers?
McDonald's.
No, I'm out.
No, like, like A and W.
We got some curly fries.
There's no A and W here.
There's no A and W on this stage.
They got some bomb curly fries, though.
Dang his hands.
John Horton.
What is the Hortons?
What's that?
Tim Hortons.
Tim Hortons.
Sorry, this is.
Applebee's.
Oh, I'll take Applebee.
Yeah.
Unlimited Prestige.
Okay, wait, no, Chili's, though.
Because Chili's is better.
That's fine, yeah.
Yeah, Chili is way better than Applebee's.
Whoever said Applebee's.
That was PF changes.
Chili's is slept on.
Chili's is so slept on.
Or BJ's.
Is there a BJ's out here?
Do you guys know about BJ's?
She's actually, I guess the chat's saying that you've got some game, so.
Thanks.
Well, she had you blushing for a little bit.
Was I blushing?
Yeah, you were nervous.
You were right behind water.
No, that was just me pretending I was burning.
You were hiding behind drinks and blushing.
You were.
Don't be shy, Brian.
I know you want to get pegged.
Oh, Jesus.
I don't think you're going to live that one down.
Okay, so let's finish up the whole first date thing.
Who should pay?
Okay, so there's a whole like whoever asks, whoever asks should pay concept.
Did any of you say that or not?
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, most of you just said the guy should pay.
I kind of said that.
Like, if you're going to ask me out to a specific location, like, obviously, don't ask me out to like a five-star restaurant if you can't afford to pay for a five-star restaurant, you know?
Okay, so just to recap, guys, arrive early.
If there's a waiter that comes up, no food dates.
If it's drinks, I guess you could go to a restaurant, just get drinks or whatever.
If there's a waiter that comes up, you tell them ahead of time before she arrives, split the check, give them the advance notice.
Or if it's like a bar, there's no waiters, you go up to the bar, get your drink, sit down, and then when she arrives, go send her over to get her own drink.
Toxic.
Can I tell you a better way?
If you really want to get laid down with a girl, there's a better way to do it.
Wait, laid down?
Like, to get laid.
Oh, no, this is like the anti-getting laid strategies I'm talking about here.
I told the guys that you're going to lose women doing this.
But don't you want to gain women?
Yes, but it's like a matter of principle.
Like, I'm, it's a principal thing.
But, like, I feel like you should be able to, if you invest a lot in the date, then you get a higher chance of getting on a second date.
No, he's too proud to do that.
He's too proud to do the investment.
He said he's going to die on the hill.
I will die.
You cannot convince him to pay for any why not.
Maybe you just haven't met a girl that you actually like are crazy for.
Yeah.
Okay.
On the.
Okay, and I need to give more reasons why I don't do it.
But you said whoever asks.
Here's the thing.
Have you ever asked a guy out on the date?
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't ask me a question if you're not going to believe my answer.
Yeah.
But like, okay, that's fine.
You do it.
You're an outlier.
Says who.
Outlier to who.
Most women don't be initiating like that.
Women.
Based on every day or what?
Because modern day.
Yeah.
Even modern day.
Like, okay.
There's evidence in the stretcher, baby.
Okay.
There we go.
She's free.
You guys are going to head out?
Okay, let me think if I have one more question for you guys before you leave.
No, I don't think so.
But thank you guys for coming.
Appreciate it.
Well, thank you for inviting us.
Nice meeting you.
So nice meeting.
By the way, guys, they announced before the show that they had to leave, so they're not leaving because they're upset that I'm on the moment.
No, no, no.
I need to go get my money.
I'm toxic.
How old's your daughter?
She's nine months.
I love babies.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, so.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, unfortunately, we do have to head out.
But yeah, thank you guys for coming on.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye, I guess.
I like how you threw shade before you left.
You threw some shade.
What was a shade?
What was a shade?
She was like, back in your day.
Yeah.
It could have gotten worse.
It's all good.
All right.
See you guys.
Take care.
I'm just going to put these microphones down on the floor here.
Or do I leave them?
Yeah, I'll put them down.
But should have asked to see her baby.
I love babies.
Vegans?
What?
Babies.
I said babies.
Sorry.
Vegans.
I don't know.
Brian, would you ever have a kid?
Oh my gosh.
You don't want to spread your seed?
No.
Probably not.
Yeah.
If you don't want to get married.
Maybe.
I mean, Jade, you can't get me pregnant by the way you want to.
The way you want to do it.
Okay.
I think we're talking about pegging.
Okay.
What were we talking about?
Sorry, the girls who left threw me off a little bit.
Paying, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so you were saying that women ask out men at similar rates.
Is that your position?
No, I will admit, like, men probably do ask out women more, but like, it's probably, like, I'm not as crazy of an outlier, like, as you are assuming, I think.
I would say of all first dates in the past, let's talk modern times, right?
Let's say the past five years.
I'm going to say 99% of that's been initiated by men.
Like, just from your own, like, all men.
99%.
99% of first dates are initiated by men.
Even with the introduction of dating apps nowadays, you would think.
It's even worse.
Oh, I don't think so.
Initiated by women, right?
Women have to do the first, actually reach out first.
Technically, yes.
I mean, but most women on Bumble just say hi or hey and then shuck the entire conversational burden on the guy.
And I think with the introduction of dating apps, women are more inclined to reach out first.
You might send the first message, but like...
That's reaching out first.
Reaching out.
But I'm talking about.
Are you talking about asking?
That's a very token level of initiative.
Like, are you trying to make your point of asking out to location so like she would pay because she asked you out?
Is that what you're like trying to get at?
Yeah, I mean, there's the initial conversation.
I'll maybe say that women reach out.
I would say it's 95% there.
I'll give you 5% on the first message.
I think you should give me 20.
I think it'd be 80%.
Because you're saying all men and like, do we have all men here?
Like, come on.
They've released the data from Tinder and all these sites.
Like, women really don't be messaging like that.
Because guys are drived more by sex.
Yeah.
Guys are hornier than women.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think that's why.
Yeah.
But nothing precludes women from, I mean, women are just as desirous of men of finding a partner and having a relationship.
I would say nowadays it's more like more women are starting to be comfortable in their singleness and okay with I mean you're okay with your singleness so like don't be oh am I single?
I mean I assume so.
I didn't reveal I mean I don't want to like assume anything but that's what I felt like you were trying to portray.
Well, you know they actually there's studies released that the demographic of people that are most likely to be on antidepressants are women in their 40s who are single and don't have children.
Well you you said that you said that women are more comfortable in their singleness.
I think like the newer generation so say like for our generation right like we're like there's a lot of girls who are okay with you you're 18.
I mean like yeah, but this is kind of a growing thing, like nothing just happens and then it sticks, like it takes a while for it to grow and extremely.
Here's the difference between sorry, she's just getting up here here's the difference, I would say, between men and women.
When women start making money, they're strong and independent, they don't need a man.
When men make a lot of money, they think okay great, I can support my family.
I mean, like I mean, are you saying that men automatically come with families and women don't come with families?
No, but what I'm saying is when men get a successful career, when they start making money, they think great, I want to be a provider, I want to support my wife, I want to support my family.
When women start getting the bag and they start making money, it's often, I'm a strong, independent woman, I don't need a man.
I would kind of say it's more so the opposite.
Like you, you see, guys with a bunch of money, they're like bro, I'm gonna blow it on strip clubs, a weird car for no reason, like just doing whatever to do whatever to please anybody.
Like I feel like that's more what it is.
You know, like I feel like this is more of like a game of bias of some sorts, because it's like you say that women are independent once they get their money, which okay sure, women can be independent, but so men get their money and then they blow it on whatever you know.
More more likely, you have the men not providing for their families.
Like I feel like that that you kind of saying that is kind of a little bit like I feel like it's also like above a certain income level too.
I feel like if you're middle class, maybe it's like they're supporting their families, but if you get above a certain income level, then like I feel like men are just as easily like fuck boys.
Honestly, I don't think like I feel like you have this like idea in your head that women are like Constantly trying to take advantage of men for their money.
No, I don't think that at all.
I want your money.
I want a free meal out of you, which is true.
I don't think that's true.
Did you have something that made you kind of have a perspective towards this?
Towards what?
Towards your whole life.
I've actually overwhelmingly, I'd say.
You've had the opposite?
I've had pretty, like a lot of the women I've dated have been fantastic.
Okay.
Sure, I mean, I think we've all had bad dating experiences, but I mean, I've maybe I've lucked out in this, but I've heard from other men, my friends.
I mean, I have friends who've been through the fucking ringer through divorce, through fucking brutal custody battles, trying to get their kids.
And there is a bias in the court system against men.
And it's just, I mean, I've heard from a lot of men.
And I mean, I've had some experiences, like foodie call experiences for sure.
But I mean, that's a very small portion of the picture that I have of women.
In the same way that I would advise women, like, hey, screen these fucking guys out and make sure they don't want to just fucking chuck you.
Like, fucking screen them out.
If you want a serious relationship, like screen these fucking guys, right?
Now, we can do that.
How do we do it?
How do you suggest that we do it without expecting some type of like monetary investment from the people?
From guys?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're not giving us any ways out.
How are we helping my guys?
And it's like, help us out too, you know?
Well, what do you want?
Well, okay, we're hitting a whole bunch of different topics here.
It's okay.
We can hit all of them.
Let me just, okay, we'll get to that.
Let me wrap up on the whole who should date thing here.
So I'll tell you what.
I can agree with the whole like whoever asks should pay thing when women ask out men, ask out men in equal numbers.
Until then, like, women overwhelmingly do not initiate first dates.
So word.
Okay.
I think I've kind of covered it, the whole first date thing, pretty much.
I mean, to just reiterate, though, I don't want to adhere to my traditional gender roles with a woman who's not traditional.
So the fact of the matter is in 2022, you have to, why are you shaking your head?
Well, I mean, you can't say you're like a traditional man, right?
And then say you don't want marriage because marriage is the standard of being traditional.
Getting married, having kids, that is the idea like that is ideal traditional.
Sure.
Like, you can't call yourself traditional and be like, I don't want kids.
I don't think I'm true.
I don't think I'm a traditional.
Well, then, so then don't say like you're adhering to traditional standards because then that's the thing.
I'm saying I'm not going to adhere to my expected traditional gender roles of paying for a first date.
Right.
If a woman is not traditional herself.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not mad at you, by the way.
I'm just having a conversation with you.
I'm engaged.
No, I really appreciate you pushing back on this.
What are your ideas of like a traditional woman?
Like, what would make you, like, what would a woman do to make you want to pay on the money?
Well, so in 2022, and this applies to both men and women, you have to assume going in that person that you're going on a date with is fucking at least one other person.
You have to assume that going in.
That is everyone's mantra.
Every person that you go out with is having a fuck fest with seven other people all at once.
Like you, the Arloviz, you're going to get hurt.
How do you know?
You have to weed out by going on like more dates, getting to know them better.
Like that's how you weed out, and that's how you gain that trust.
It's at least they're sleeping with at least one other person.
People are not truly, truly single.
And part of that is because social media and dating apps, we've globalized the sexual marketplace.
We've had some girls here on the show who go to UCSB, 19-year-old girls, right?
They got NFL players, NBA players, blue check marks in their DMs.
Like very high-status men.
You think a 19-year-old college guy is going to be able to compete?
Like it's just totally different now.
I mean, I'm sure you guys have guys with blue check marks in your DMs, right?
On my old account, I did, yeah.
Okay.
You don't have to say who, but like, give athletes, NBA players, NFL, musicians.
I did have a guy who was in my DMs.
He was a pretty big show on the Food Network.
Bourdain?
Before he.
Not Bourdain.
Wait, what?
Who's the DMs?
Who's the guy with the bleached hair?
Guy Fieri.
Guy Fieri.
Was it him?
No.
Okay.
I can't say it.
It was him.
Okay, just kidding.
Just kidding.
NFL players.
Rappers?
Rappers.
Okay, what about you?
I had this social media content creator.
He makes blogs on YouTube.
He has a wife.
Logan Paul?
No.
The guy who asked to be pegged.
Okay.
No, no, no.
What about you?
Any blue check marks?
Okay, what about you?
Any blue check marks on Instagram?
No, no.
In your DMs?
You guys are fairly young, though.
You're 18.
Give it time.
The blue check mark DMs will come.
But like most guys, they're not getting hit up by women with blue check marks in their DMs.
Most guys aren't even getting DM'd.
Guys' Instagram profiles are crazy.
Like, let's touch on that first because you guys be holding fish from 2016.
What's wrong with that?
Nothing, but like, what's wrong with the fish thing?
Sell yourself a little bit at least.
Like, you just, like, you guys have no updated pictures, like, nothing to show for on your account.
How are you expected to get, like, hit up when you, your latest picture is from, like, 2018?
You know what, though?
As a girl, I actually think you should look at that guy and think, he's not super caught up in the social media thing.
Like, that might be a guy who's probably less inclined to be to just hit and quit it.
So why would I bother sliding into his DMs over an Instagram app that he doesn't use?
So, okay, you're saying that you don't hit up guys, you don't DM guys because their Instagrams aren't popping.
Like, that's.
No, I'm just saying hypothetically, like, of course, women who are averagely, like, more active on Instagram are going to get more people, specifically, blue check marks in their Instagram DMs if they're posting more pictures up to date, you know, than like a man who doesn't have as much on his Instagram.
Of course, a woman specifically with a blue check mark isn't going to slide into their DMs that way.
They don't even know they exist, most likely, because they're not active on the app.
Well, I mean, I will give you that.
Like, guys, probably are not really on their photo game as well as a lot of women are.
Maybe that's because men, they might just not care as much.
But, yeah, I mean, sure, maybe guys should step it up and market themselves to appear more appealing or actually, you know, show their.
But what's with the fish thing?
You don't like that.
No, that was just like a funny thing.
I see a lot of girls on the dating app say, don't have a fish pick.
No, I think that's just like a funny example, especially with our age group.
That's like men, it's just like a funny joke.
Wait, how did we get onto that, though?
Because you asked about the blue check mark, and you said men are less likely to have blue check marks in their DMs.
And I said, yeah, because their Instagrams are crazy.
I guess.
But like an I would say there's okay, the girls at UCSP, right?
There's probably a bunch of dudes in their DMs who have blue check marks.
There's probably a very few guys at UCSP, even really attractive guys, that are getting hit up like that.
Even just regular DMs, like let me ask, I'm curious.
How many, I mean, you guys are kind of out there in the ether in terms of like you're out there on social media, so you're probably going to get a lot of DMs and stuff.
But how often do you get DMs from guys that are like hitting you up maybe for a date or that it's clear that they're interested in you?
A lot, like daily.
How many per day?
How many DMs per day would you say you get?
Now that Instagram has this feature where it's like if you don't follow them, it just goes straight to like a hidden folder.
Yeah, and then like every once in a while I'll just go through and just like mass delete all of them.
I don't really, I don't read, I don't read my, I don't read, I don't really read those messages anymore because I get a lot of them.
Yeah.
But yeah, like daily.
Like would you say 10 a day?
Probably like 10 to 20 a day or something.
Jade, what about you?
I don't really count, but something like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
I have no check marks.
No, just regular DMs from guys.
Regular DMs?
Not many.
I DM my friends and like that's it.
Okay.
Yeah, I would say I have quite a few.
Quite a few.
Okay.
Often, yeah.
Yeah, most guys, like, they're not getting hit up in the same way that women are getting hit up.
How often do you get hit up in the DMs?
I've had two girls in my entire life DM me.
Wow.
And did you go out with them?
They weren't even in fucking California.
One chick was in Canada.
Was it you?
No.
That might have been me.
Yeah.
One chick was in Canada.
One was in Chicago.
And they're not going to fly out.
And I'm on social media too.
Like, I'm kind of out there.
So two girls.
What about the girls that you pick up in your pranks?
In the videos?
Yeah.
I mean, my philosophy was that.
My philosophy with that was it's bad for business.
What?
So you don't.
It's bad for business because.
If they're like in the video and then I start dating them, I don't want them like to, if I'm dating them, then they're going to come and say, take me out of the video.
I don't want to be in the video.
Blah, blah, blah.
So I would, my, there were maybe a couple girls that I was like, oh, she's really cute.
I like her personality.
I'll pursue it.
But most of the girls in the videos, like, it's strictly business.
I'm not going to like try to pursue it.
Your stuff is mostly geared towards like males.
It's like prank stuff.
Yeah, I mean, that explains it too, because like the vast majority of my audience, it's like 80, 90% men.
So if I was gay, then I'd be fucking killing it.
You would.
I see you guys in the chat.
You can kill it without being gay, but just cater to the men.
Yeah, there's a lot of guys that have flats that are like not gay, but also cater to the gay male audience, and they do very well.
Yeah, and there's definitely guys who are on social media who do YouTube, do Twitch, and they have a decent female following.
And then, yeah, they're going to get DMs from women.
But yeah.
Anyways, okay, so let's do some super chats.
Let's see.
Oh, we were talking about marriage too.
The other thing.
You made a point that I wanted to respond to, but I forgot what it was.
Something women are making all their money.
I'm trying to remember what it was.
I think the point I was going to make is that as far as women making their own money and how that plays out in a relationship, for the most part, women don't share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
Oh, I remember.
You said in marriage, if you're both bringing money to the table, then it's like a partnership, right?
But before it gets to marriage, you have the courtship, the relationship.
And I would say, overwhelmingly, in most men's experience, in my experience, besides the one BPD simp girl that I had, most women really aren't spoiling men in the same way that men will spoil women.
Our resource is time, though.
Because for us, time is something that we can't get back.
So if we're going to be committed to you, I'm not talking about girls that aren't faithful, but if we're going to be really committed to you and we're going to invest our time in you, then I think that's a big resource for us.
That's actually a very, very fair point.
And yes, I would say that.
So you're saying like giving us your youth, basically.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think that's a fair point.
But speaking just on the financial side of it, women don't really share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
I think a healthy relationship, honestly, could be like maybe like 60, 40, 70, 30.
I think men always do like realistically put in more in a relationship, but it's not like once you're in the relationship, it's not as imbalanced as the guy pays for every day.
The relationships I've been in, it's been like maybe the guys pay for when we go out, but then I get postmates when we order in.
The guys get like the airfare on the trip and then I'll get the hotel and the food and stuff.
So I think it kind of evens out.
Maybe you're a, well, I, I think for most girls, it's like that.
Cause once you're in a relationship, you don't want to take advantage of your guy.
Like, you don't want to like, you don't want him to suffer financially because you're a team.
Again, like, if you see him long-term, you don't want to put a dent in his pocket because that means like you're not going to be able to get the house that you want.
You're not going to be able to go on the nice honeymoon you want to go on.
So you're thinking for you guys in the long term as well.
And there's definitely a lot of women that are like that, but there are also women that will have that expectation, even moving beyond the first date, moving into a relationship that he's going to continue providing for everything.
He'll pay the whole thing.
I don't know.
I feel like it's like throughout the relationship, even if the guy is the breadwinner, the woman, like a stay-at-home mom or something, she's going to be like, she sacrifices her body for the kid, stays at home, takes care of the kid.
There's also that part of his life that she takes care of completely so that he can go out and make the money.
So I think it does even out in the end.
It's just like whether or not you want to think short term or long term.
No, you made some good points there.
You made some good points.
I want to ask, would you guys date a guy who makes less than you?
Yeah.
I've dated guys that make less than me.
Okay.
What about you, Jim?
I've done it before.
Okay.
You've done it before, but dislike it.
I mean, I did it because he was funny.
Like, I liked his, so yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd say.
Okay.
Well, you guys are in college, so I feel like at this point in your life, finances aren't like a huge motivating factor, probably.
I mean, we're on track to be doctors, so I feel like that's like, we're okay with it.
I was just going to say, like, I want to be a pediatric cardiologist.
I want to be a plastic surgeon.
So I'm okay with having my own.
Unless they're also like an engineer, they're also a doctor.
Like, I'm probably going to be making more than the man.
You're going to be out earning your future partner, you think?
Or, well.
Like, unless they're like an engineer or a doctor, like, unless they're the same career path like I am, I most likely will be.
Okay, so you want to be a doctor and you want to be a doctor.
And then you guys want to be OnlyFans.
No, not forever.
I mean, I'll have like different businesses, like investments and stuff like that.
Well, you guys are making good money, so I mean, I think you guys will be probably properly set up, you know, by the time you start moving out of it, I reckon.
It's not about how much money they're making, but like, I feel like I want to be with someone ultimately who shares the same values as me.
Who like the same family values and like the same values as far as like I want to, you know, even though he's not making enough on a lot now, but he works really hard.
He has the potential.
I know it's so outplayed.
I want a guy who has like good potential, but it's true.
Like, you can't look at like what he is now.
You have to look at like the actions that he's taking to set himself up for the future.
Okay.
Yeah.
Cool.
So I'll just say this as far.
So you guys are going to, you sound like very ambitious.
You guys want to be doctors, right?
Would you be okay being the breadwinner in your relationships?
Yeah, of course, why not?
Yeah.
Like, why wouldn't I?
Well, because very often, so very often what happens is when women start becoming really successful, their potential pool of partners starts to decrease.
Because a lot of women want to date men on their level or higher.
Whereas a guy who's an attorney or a doctor, he'll date the barista.
He'll date a chick that works at Chick-fil-A.
Like, for example, when you're a doctor, are you going to date a guy who works at Chick-fil-A?
Probably not.
If he's attractive. I'd say that that's kind of.
Maybe bangable.
Bangable.
But dateable.
Is he going to make my kids cute?
Fine.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I guess that could be a benefit, but.
No, but all seriousness, like, yeah, I would be fine with that.
I mean, you say that now, but when you're a doctor and you're surrounded by a bunch of other male doctors.
I mean, yeah, you have to think about that too.
Like, realistically, like, me meeting someone that I would stick with at a Chick-fil-A, like, the odds of that versus someone I'm working with every single day, like, possibly having chemistry worth at work, like, the odds of that are, like, way different.
But here's the difference.
If I was at like a social and like it was a bunch of men and one happened to be a Chick-fil-A worker and one was a doctor, but I didn't know, and I got along with the Chick-fil-A worker better, like, of course, like, whoever I have more chemistry with, whoever I get along with better, whoever I see being like a better partner in life, like, I would, of course, like, it doesn't matter.
Like, if I'm making enough to take care of both of us, like, so be it.
Good on me.
Would his pride let him like be taken care of, though?
Because I think that's the thing with, like, that makes the relationship imbalance.
It's like a woman is like, okay with being the breadwinner, but then the guy, his ego can't let him stay at home and take care of the kids.
I mean, there's definitely guys that probably would have their ego or pride involved, but I think it's more so the woman's just going to be like, this guy's a fucking bum.
I want to date a guy who's...
You're not stay-at-home dads.
I mean, it's like, yeah, I mean, if I'm a doctor, like, I'm going to need someone to take care of the kids.
Yeah, but I guess the point I'm, I mean, I guess, but I don't know.
I think by the time you are in that really successful, and by the way, good for you pursue it.
Like, be successful.
But I do think that your pool of potential partners will shrink.
Oh, definitely.
Like, I don't think that.
When you become more successful.
I don't disagree with you there, yeah.
Whereas for men, their pool of potential partners increases as they become more successful and get more money.
Right.
Because most women don't want to date down.
Most women.
They want to date a crossing up socioeconomic hierarchies.
And would you say that's because of kind of like a power dynamic per se?
Like men want to date down because they want to probably trap a like.
And a woman.
I mean, let's be real here.
Yeah, like financial abuse is a real thing.
And so you have a lot of older guys, they scour the streets for, say, like us college girls who are like, you know, they're working towards their futures or whatever.
And then you have this old guy, they sell them this dream, pretty much.
Also, I'm from Vegas, so this is pretty much right there.
That's why I have to- Ah, the truth comes out, okay.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Forgive me, if you will.
But it's like, you know, financial abuse is a huge thing.
And so it's like the power dynamic, holding financial power over someone is a huge thing because finances pretty much push every desire that we pretty much have in this world.
If it isn't sexual, it's probably financial.
So it's like most women want to date a cross and up because they don't want to potentially be financially abused.
Because if you have your own money, there's less chances of you being financially abused.
However, it's like, oh, you have this guy.
He's a big CEO.
He's a lawyer.
He's going to date this 20-year-old guy and he's 60.
Why?
Well, she's fresh out of college.
If anything goes wrong, she's probably going to stay with him.
Why?
She has no money.
She has nowhere else to go.
It's pretty much just a huge power dynamic that people are working towards instead of true love.
True love.
I say true love with quotations because that's like the ideal, you feel.
I mean, well, okay, you said there was a lot there.
So I don't even know where to begin with all that.
Okay, so there's the age gap stuff and then the power dynamic.
When I say women like to date a cross and up, a broke woman could want to date, like, I'm trying to understand.
Like, what do you mean?
Where you were.
Like, if you're a woman.
A woman with her own money who's totally financially secure, she still wants to date a cross and up.
So even in that scenario, it's not even like a power dynamic thing.
Because I mean, also, financial abuse goes the same way.
You could be like, oh, this guy, he's asked me for money always, all the time.
And now I'm running, chasing his checks and his bills because he has no way else to pay for them.
And so now he's gotten me entangled in his debt, and I'm trying to chase that off.
Wait, so is it only abusive from the man's?
No, no, no.
I'm saying it could go both ways.
You know, like, okay, you have, I have this young girl in a relationship, and she's like, oh, can you pay off my car bill?
Next it's her rent, and now it's this, and that's that.
You know, financial abuse works both ways, but it works on the upper echelon and then the lower echelon, right?
So it can go either direction.
Well, I mean, the reason I asked if you were trying to frame it from it's only men that are abusing, because the two examples you gave were an older guy with a younger woman who she was broke and he had a lot of money and he was taking care of her.
Well, I cannot do that.
You said that that was abusive from the man's direction to the woman's, but in the scenario you also gave when the guy is broke, you said it was abusive for the guy to be relying on the woman, even though that's the thing.
It depends on context, obviously.
These are just very black and white things.
Obviously, there's gray mixed into there too.
Nothing can ever be black and white.
But those are just kind of the base models of what I was trying to explain to you was that sometimes you, you know, like these little situations, these hypothetical kind of questions that we kind of place upon ourselves is really, like, they're really hard to answer because there's different things that we need to go back and forth in.
Sorry, I don't mean for the chat to be like, oh my God, like, she sucks.
Like, get her out of here, Brian.
No, no, it's good.
So men, it's not about a power thing.
You don't think so?
No.
No?
What do you think it's about?
Well, I mean, there's a few different things.
So you brought up age gaps, for example.
So, what's it called?
So, with the whole age gap thing, I mean, men want to date younger women because for, I mean, a myriad of reasons.
One of them is they're more physically attractive.
So, I mean, and that applies to both men and women.
As you age, you become less physically attractive over time.
Men obviously care a bit more about that than women do.
So that's a factor.
It's also just evo-psych, evolutionary psychology reasons.
There's a biological reason.
So men look for indicators of youth and fertility.
Right.
younger women I think there's also because once you hit once you hit like 35 the likelihood of you getting pregnant starts really diminishing I thought it was like 40, really.
Well, I mean, 35, once you hit 35, that's when you start getting into high-risk pregnancy territory.
There's a greater likelihood of miscarriage, greater likelihood of birth defects, starting at 35, and it gets worse and worse as you age.
And then once you hit 45, the likelihood that you're going to even be able to get pregnant is pretty minuscule.
So if you're a 40-year-old guy, you're going to be looking, you're probably, if you're a 45-year-old guy, you're going to want to date a girl who is in her late 20s or early 30s.
You're not going to want to date a girl who's your age, who's 40, if you want to have kids and have a family.
So for evolutionary reasons, for biological, for biology reasons, men are attracted to younger women.
Okay.
I think men are also more physical and women are more emotional, like traditionally.
What do you mean?
Like care more about looks and stuff?
Men?
Yeah.
Well, there's some pretty sensitive men.
No, yeah, I'm just saying like, Jade, I know you're dying to come in on this one.
I got the sense that you wanted to say something.
Oh, what?
I lost my train of thought.
Did I misread that?
Okay.
No, no, no.
I was going to say something, but I like.
You talk about men dating down, but that's just like financially.
It just shows you the difference between the values that men have versus women.
Like men might date someone with a lower income, but she's probably going to be a lot younger and prettier, right?
So that means that he probably values more superficial things.
Whereas women, like we hold in high regard, like, you know, stability.
So we want someone to match us on that level as well.
So it's like really like what you value.
So it's not like a man's not going to date someone who's a girl who's broke and that he thinks is like ugly and like really overweight.
You know, there's like a give and take there.
So I don't think that assessment of like, oh, men date down, women date, you know, I don't think that's like a really fair point that you're making.
Like a balance.
Well, I mean, it's, I mean, it's an established societal and cultural thing that women date up.
Women marry up.
Well, so do men.
Men also, financially, though, right?
But like men marry up as far as like, okay, like if a man dates a girl who has less money, she makes up for that with like her youth, her beauty, whatever it may be.
So it's not necessarily like men are dating down.
They're dating down socioeconomically.
Yes, but that's because they want some, they'd rather date down socio-nomically and then have a girl who's like more beautiful in their eyes than date an older woman who probably is more established in her career.
I would say actually, well, there's definitely guys who make up for their poor looks in other ways, money, personality, humor, confidence, et cetera.
But I would actually say, and by the way, guys, we will get to your super chats.
We've had quite a bit of a back and forth here.
I'd actually say that women are harsher judges of appearance than men are.
I completely disagree.
Hot take.
Hot take.
Pretty hot take.
Yeah.
Hot take, but I disagree.
Why?
Because it's like... I feel like men are more shallow.
Yeah.
Men are more shallow.
You often see women.
They're way more physical.
You often see women with guys that are like definitely like objectively as you can less attractive than them than the other way around, I would say.
I'd be seeing the prettiest girls with the craziest looking boyfriends.
But that's just okay.
They're getting, there's like something there, though, typically.
Dick size?
I mean, it could be humor.
It could be their humor is not paying the bill.
They try to get it.
Like, it could be good dick.
I mean, like you said, there's both men and women that do this, but it's like they'll date down because that person's easier to control.
So I think that, okay.
I would say women are harsher judges of appearance than men are.
On what appearance?
Like, what things are we like?
What appearance?
Brian, Brian, would you ever date a fat girl?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Would you ever date someone?
Well, there you go.
Probably not.
No.
Because it's, I mean, why would I not date a woman who's obese?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Who's just chunky?
Aesthetically, it's unappealing.
says something about your character aesthetically like yes well we'll get to don't look we're gonna get to it Well, most women don't want to date an obese man either.
Like, let's not trip on this.
Like, both men and women have a preference for physically fit personality.
Right, and that's what's going to be a lot of fun.
I mean, women like dad bods now.
It's coming in.
Yeah, dad bods.
I thought it was a lot.
My two-year relationship that I was talking about, he had a dad bod.
Okay.
And that's not who I'm typically attracted to.
Like, he had a lot.
did you have the equivalent body did you have like the like i know she's wearing jeans i I can't.
I don't know.
Bro.
I'm not like giving her the up and down.
Okay, if you want to talk about some physical things, let's talk about some physical things.
Absolutely not.
I was actually skinnier than I am now.
That's perfect.
He was bringing something else to the table then.
Okay, let's talk.
But no, let's talk about physical traits.
Let's talk about physical traits, right?
So you said weight, right?
Yeah, and I don't disagree with you there.
Men, that's probably as far as physical appearance, that's one of the top things that men care about.
Yeah.
Is don't be fat.
It's not that hard, actually.
Would you date a bald girl?
Huh?
With a bald girl?
Bald, like, no, like no hair.
Bald completely.
Sure.
Like, shaved her head?
No, no, no, not even shaved.
Like, she's just bald.
Like, you would?
No eyelashes, no eyes.
other men okay no hair like like no hair at all especially on the top of my head i mean this is like a very let's be real here what What percentage of that?
Women will date bald guys, right?
But men will be a bad person.
Actually.
Hold on.
No, You're using a very fringe example.
Also, women do not bald at the same rate that men do.
Most women don't bald herself.
Okay, so she shaved her head.
Would you date her?
A woman can still be physically attractive with a shaved head.
I do have a preference for women who have long hair.
But here's the difference, right?
That's not really an issue for women.
That's not an issue for women.
You want to talk about hair.
Women have a hair preference.
Oh, absolutely.
Women would prefer to date, would much prefer.
Yes, do women date bald men?
Well, yeah, because there's a greater likelihood that men will be bald, but women absolutely say, I want a guy with a full head of hair.
Especially young women.
Like, maybe when women start getting into like their 30s and 40s, they're going to like, guys start balding a bit by then.
And that's something that's out of men's control is their hair.
If they start balding, that's really out of a man's control.
So I'm going to list some physical characteristics that women care about in men that men have no control over.
Height, penis size, penis performance.
You have control over that.
No.
Yeah, agree.
To a degree.
To a degree, but like.
Also, is this on face value?
Are we talking like stripped down naked?
Because like you don't know like how big someone else's like penis is on face.
Women will like.
Dick size does not matter.
Honestly.
You'll date a guy with a micropenis.
Yeah.
If I like you, I feel like I can make you finish in other ways.
Yeah.
The penis doesn't matter.
It's going to be.
If you're putting in an effort to make that woman finish.
Some girls, it's going to be a wrap.
Actually, probably most of them.
But micropenises, honestly, guys, are not that common, okay?
Like if you have like a four-inch dick, that is not a micro-penis.
Micro-penises are a very small percentage of the population.
So like don't worry about your dick size.
Like I feel like guys focus way too much on like, oh, my dick is small.
It's not because her dick is small.
You're probably just like a mean person or like you're not, she doesn't like you.
Yeah, if a girl likes you, she doesn't care about your dick size.
Okay.
Irrelevant.
Not all women care about penis size, but to a degree, yes, it does matter.
I don't know.
I would say everyone has a preference.
Everyone has a preference, but are you saying no women care about penis size?
I don't speak in like certain degrees, but I say if you have between like a four inch and like a seven inch dick, which most men fall under in that range, then you're okay.
Most men fall between like, I think the average is like five.
Yeah, so that's between four and that five inch dick is perfect, actually.
For most women, four to five is, they're going to think.
Do you know where the G spot is, Brian?
Do you know where that is?
Yes.
Yes, okay.
So like a four-inch dick.
Let's talk about sex.
I'm just saying.
Let's talk about sex.
You can definitely reach the G-spot because your G-spot is not more than four inches in your vagina.
It literally is like right here.
It's like two inches.
Yeah, so if your dick is longer than this, then you can reach.
Thank you for the anatomy lesson.
But look, my philosophy on sex is the girl comes first.
Like, I'm going to make the girl come.
That's not an issue for me.
But yes, I would say a good amount of women probably have a preference for a slightly above average penis size.
I would say a slight preference for above average.
So look, I'm not saying it's all women.
That's fine.
The point I'm saying is, is that height, penis size, penis performance, their physical size, and their hair, those are things that are out of men's control.
To a degree, I would agree with.
Only the physical size went like this.
Are you talking about body mass?
Okay, physical size, men do have some degree of control over.
So you said the same thing about women like two minutes ago.
Like you wouldn't date a fat woman because she can control.
Just don't gain weight, you know?
I should have, you're right.
I should have excluded physical size from the things that are strictly out of men's control.
But that's height, penis size, penis performance, and hair is borderline controlled as well.
So sorry.
Unless you're talking like without surgical intervention or drug intervention.
Are you talking about balding?
Are you talking about like different haircuts?
I'm talking about men who are balding.
Some men start balding as early as high school.
So these are physical characteristics that men, sorry, these are physical characteristics that men have that women judge men on that are out of their control.
Women, what is out of your control that physically men judge you for?
Height.
Okay.
Men don't care about women's height.
Would you date a 6'7 woman?
Or 6'0?
Really?
So cap right now.
Yes, I would.
Okay, okay.
But I'd prefer to date a 4'11 queen.
Right.
Beef current queen.
So tit size, ass size, what your labia looks like.
If you want to talk about dick, we can also talk about vaginas in that way.
Labia preference is not nearly comparable to penis preference.
Face.
Yeah.
Women care about face too, though.
I'm talking strictly like gendering it.
Tammy, hit the bitch.
I don't think women care as much though.
Again, I think you can make up with it.
Okay, so I think if a guy doesn't hit those physical check marks, he can make up with it for other things.
But if women don't hit those physical check marks, then no matter how high her salary is or no matter how funny she is, she will never be given a chance by a guy.
So it goes both ways.
Well, yeah, I mean, you're right.
Yeah.
As far as we don't care, like most men, we don't care about the money that you're bringing to the relationship.
Right.
You care about looks, which is what I'm saying.
So if you're saying that like a girl cares about more things that's out of the control for the guy physically, he can make up for that by doing other things.
Whereas it doesn't go the same way for the girl.
Sure.
So women, it's easier for women to be considered attractive than it is for men.
It should be because that's what men care about.
Yeah, and actually they've done studies on this, and this is from a dating app.
Something like women basically, in terms of physical appearance, women rate, sorry, in terms of physical appearance, men rate women on a bell curve.
Whereas women will say they find, okay, you can, they have this data also from Tinder.
Women will swipe no.
Is that left?
I can't remember.
Women swipe left on like 90% of dudes.
You ask most women, what percentage of men that you see in day-to-day or on dating apps that you would consider physically attractive?
Let's go around the table.
What percent of men that you see day to day here in, do you live in Isla Vista?
What percentage of the men that you see that you consider physically attractive?
Probably 30 to 40%.
Okay, that's fair.
Go ahead.
I was going to put a little bit more on that.
I was going to be like 60 to 75.
Okay.
Jade?
I'm going to be honest.
I would say like 5%.
5% of the men you find attractive, okay?
I'd say like 15%.
15%.
Okay.
So what about on dating apps?
Like what percent of profiles do you swipe right on?
Do you swipe yes for?
Probably around like the same area, like 20, 30, maybe like a little less.
Okay.
Same with you?
Yeah, just about.
I mean, it also depends on what your little tags are per dating app because you don't see everyone in the pool.
You see everyone who has the same tags as you.
So I think just, like, I think that's hard to gauge, just a tad.
Right, but I mean, so the evidence is in from the dating apps, women are much harsher judges of appearance than men are because you're not, dating apps are purely physical, especially Tinder.
I mean, no offense, I saw your guys' Tinder profiles.
You had half a sentence.
Yeah, mine was actually a full sentence.
Oh, full sentence, okay.
But there's nothing in your profile that would suggest to me anything about your personality.
I think that's mainly also because Tinder is mostly a hookup app.
And it's the biggest, it's the biggest thing that's really important.
Yeah, it's ventured more into being like a hookup app.
Yeah.
So what you have happening on the dating apps is you have 10 or 20% of the men that are getting all of the women, and then the other 70, 80% of the men are just ignored.
Sounds familiar.
Yeah.
Sounds familiar.
Also, it makes sense that women are more selective.
If you look at it from a biological standpoint, it's like men are like, you spread your seed.
Women can only, from like a biological standpoint, have one baby.
So women have to be more selective about who they choose as their potential partner.
Absolutely.
You're right.
Women are more selective.
Makes sense.
Thus it stands to reason.
Well, it stands to reason then if women are more selective, then they're harsher judges of physical appearance than men are.
I'm sorry?
If women are more selective, then it would stand to reason that they're harsher judges of physical appearance than men are.
Maybe not.
No, I don't think on physical appearance, they might be a harsher judge on men, but you're arguing for physical appearance.
I don't think it's even physical appearance.
No, I think men are definitely a harsher judge of physical appearance.
Height?
Okay, let's talk about height then.
My ex-boyfriend was 5'4 ⁇ .
I'm 5'6.
Oh, shit.
What about you, Jade?
My high school sweetheart was the same height as me.
Okay.
Yeah.
But do you have a height preference?
Now, honestly, I prefer taller guys now.
So I would say, yeah, I'm a harsher judge of appearance than men, yeah.
Sure.
I would say my height or taller, but I'm like, I'm not very tall.
So, I mean, like, that's, that should be pretty easy to match.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about you?
Um, if I had a preference, I would prefer tall guys, but I do have a track record with short men.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
Short men are very good.
They can make up for it with different things.
Like, they can't.
Because I feel like short guys also, they know they have to compensate in other ways.
Like, somehow the short men always just be finding me.
And what the frick?
Just works like that.
Short guys have rizz.
It's like, yeah, they have to.
They definitely have charge.
I mean.
Short guys are the most personality.
Yeah.
It's easy to get.
I mean, you say that, but these guys out here are getting curved on the dating apps.
That's because they're dating.
It's dating apps, but I feel like if they met a girl in real life, like at a library or something, if they did some pickup, then it would be easy.
Most people are meeting on the phone.
I think when you're looking for a hookup, you're going to be more selective in appearance versus if you're looking for something more serious.
Sure.
I mean, yeah, it's definitely better to meet people in person, but most people are meeting online now.
Kiki, what do you think?
Okay.
Let's do some super chats, but before that, really important question, guy.
Guys, guys?
Very important question.
Wait, put it on Jade so you can see what she's doing.
Okay.
Stop distracting me, Jade.
Stop distracting me.
This is really the most pressing dating issue, I think.
Let's say you meet a guy.
He's really attractive.
You really like him.
Meets all your standards, whatever.
You know, let's say he approaches you at a Trader Joe's or you guys organically just started a conversation and he asked for your number and you're totally down to give him your number.
And then he pulls out a flip phone.
Wow.
That is interesting.
That would be so.
Yeah, that would be really interesting.
That is adorable.
Yeah, that's top tier size.
I don't have to worry about you liking pictures.
I don't have to worry about you cheating on me.
Yeah, dude, that's amazing.
First of all, is that yours or is that a prop one?
Do you use that?
That's definitely a prop one.
Yeah, because I've been talking to you.
He's like, open and it was dead.
He doesn't use that.
I feel like guys with those kind of phones are loyal.
Yeah.
That is a green flag all the way.
That is not a flash.
Not a red flag.
No, no, that is a green flag.
Yeah.
No, I would be worried if I saw that you had an actual phone at home.
Because why are you talking about that?
Yeah, yeah.
But if that's really his phone, that's amazing.
Okay.
Respect.
I mean, then you hear the whole Android versus iPhone.
Oh, I heard that.
Now, the only issue I would have is if it's long distance and not being able to FaceTime.
That would suck.
But long distance just sucks in general.
Android guys don't get laid as much as iPhone guys.
Android guys are more nerd types, but I like more nerd types.
So I think that's honestly a green flag as well.
The bubbles, though.
Really?
I don't know.
I like nerdier guys, so I think.
What about you can't text on those?
What is that?
Does that even work?
This is a brick.
Motorola.
What's the best?
It's a brick.
Nobody's going to be in the Trader Joe's with pulling that.
Yo, chat, remind me.
What's the model number on this?
It's the Motorola chat.
Wait, Eric, 12.
What's the model number for this?
It's like the Motorola X9000 or some bullshit.
So, you guys down for this?
Who is pulling that out at a training?
Are those the ones that you have to have in your car to be connected to anything?
So, like, how did he get it?
Yeah, what does that other end of the wire look like?
Yeah.
And if it's a landline, how did he get that there?
I mean, that's like just the charger for it.
Damn.
I mean, if you let me put that tip in your bowl.
God damn, Jade.
Okay.
Let's do some super chats.
Sorry, guys.
We're super behind on super chats, but we'll get to it.
We did this one.
Or wait, did we do this one?
We haven't done a lot.
Yeah, I know.
We just were in a really good back and forth there.
Red Misfit, thank you for the $10 super chat.
It's funny, I feel like Asian women and white men are as common as black men and white women.
It's just a thing.
Word?
Oh, that's very true.
Word?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
We got Dave on Jackson.
Thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
Appreciate it.
I truly don't understand paying for OnlyFans or Prawn when there's literally limitless free porn on the internet should show women how desperate these men are for companionship.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think there would not be such a demand for strippers, porn, OnlyFans if I think men were getting laid.
That's not a bad thing.
You guys, it's not bad to be lonely.
Like, it's not like you.
It's kind of bad.
No, it's not.
Like, you shouldn't be ashamed to feel like a natural human emotion.
Like, we all feel it.
You shouldn't be ashamed of it.
If OF or like porn isn't for you, that's good.
But like, you shouldn't shame other people for being lonely because you felt it.
I think we've all felt lonely.
By the way, her OnlyFans is 20%.
20% off.
I say this from a non-biased point of view.
Yeah, there's no, what's it called?
Fuck, what's the term?
I forgot, whatever.
This is in response to Mike Davis seeing.
Eric, can you pull that back up?
The Burger King.
Yeah, there we go.
If you guys are just tuning in, we uncovered, we went deep into the Google searches and we found this photo of Mike Davis working at one of his Burger King restaurants.
So, yeah.
Thank you, Mike Davis.
Appreciate it.
Mike Davis with the $10 Super Chat.
I would rather marry a Burger King whopper than a woman.
Given the state of females nowadays, it's easier to find a black cat in a coal cellar than women worthy of a ring.
W. Brian, yo, what's up, Team No Marriage?
Let's do it.
Okay.
Go your own way, fellas.
Okay, Dave Von Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
Shout out to Fresh and Fit.
What's one thing you did wrong in your last relationship and one thing your partner did wrong that led to the end of the relationship?
Good question, Dave on Jackson.
We can do that one right now.
Go ahead.
So, one thing you did wrong in your last relationship?
One thing I did wrong.
The big thing I did wrong in my last relationship was mistake love for mistake the feelings I had for like the appreciation that he like he gave like he centered me.
He made me his like whole world.
And I love that feeling of validation and I mistaked it for love.
And it didn't ultimately work out because I didn't really love him.
I just liked how he made me feel.
One mistake that he made was that he focused way too much on me and not enough on himself.
Okay.
So what was the thing that you did wrong?
Like, I didn't really love him.
I just like how he made me feel.
Like, I don't think we were ultimately equals.
Did you end that relationship or did he?
I ended it.
The last one.
Is that, did you, I don't know if that's you doing something wrong, though.
I'm talking like, did you slash a dude's tires?
Oh, like that?
You did some crazy shit.
Or you were argumentative or whatever.
Yeah, no, I was definitely really argumentative because I felt like I could get away with a lot of things.
Like, he was constantly like, yes, yes, yes, let me do this for you.
And then, like, I felt resentful towards him because I felt like I just tried to push his boundaries a lot.
So it was a really toxic relationship, apparently.
Jade, what about you?
All right, so this is my first relationship.
It was the three-year one.
I fucked it.
I didn't.
Well, okay, so what happened was we were playing basketball one-on-one.
And then I found out his friend told me that he cheated on me with his coworker.
So then during our one-on-one basketball game, I tried to hold in the anger, but I ended up beating him up.
What?
What?
You.
just like straight like fucked him up with my hands.
Wait.
You.
But I didn't hit him too hard, but I just hit him enough to show I knew.
You cheated on me.
Did he fight back, or he just let you?
He kind of pushed me back a little bit.
Like, he was playing a little bit, like, he was checking the ball aggressively, which made me more aggressive, and he was fouling me a bit.
And then that's what led up to me, like, boom.
Goddamn.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm going to have to skip this question.
I've never been.
Oh, right.
You've never been in a relationship.
Okay.
What about you?
A mistake I made was being really insecure, probably, and like caring a lot about different girls he was talking to and like whatever.
Okay.
Him just not putting in enough effort, I feel like.
That was like the main reason I ended it.
Was just like, if it wasn't working and we lived like 10 minutes away from each other, it wasn't going to work when I came to school.
Wait, so remind me, what did you do wrong?
Oh, I was really like insecure.
You were insecure.
Okay.
I would like kind of start fights over like probably things that weren't super substantial.
Like if he was talking to someone and I didn't know who it was.
Okay.
Got it.
Got it.
We got one thing here real quick from Stiffler.
We got asked the ladies to rate themselves on the scale of one to ten.
We can do that really quick.
Go ahead.
Oh, God.
I'd say a seven.
Okay.
Jaden?
I would say on a good day, like a solid six.
Okay.
All right.
I would say a seven, too.
I'm a ten, because confidence is key.
I love you for that.
Wait, okay, so one question.
Like, why would I rate myself for these men?
Like, I'm a 10.
I'm a 10, in my estimate.
Don't you think it's a bit of hubris?
No.
No.
She's a 10 to me too.
But, like, okay, if you're a 10, then you deserve a guy who's a 10, right?
I deserve whoever I deserve.
I don't know.
Because, like, on the dating marketplace, don't you think you should have a reasonable self-assessment of where you stand?
That way you can secure a guy that's on your level, you know?
I don't believe in leagues.
If it's in different leagues, like if someone's out of my league or I'm out of their league, you know?
So everyone's the equivalent of the same attractiveness?
No, I mean like I wouldn't base who I'm gonna go up to like on what I think.
Like if I'm like going out to say I'm at a party or something, okay?
And like there's this guy that I'm attracted to, I'm not gonna be like, oh, he's too attractive for me based on what I think I look like, so I'm not gonna go up to him.
Like I'm not gonna let what I think I look like and what I think my rating should be affect how I live my life.
Right, but okay, here's the problem.
Let's say you might believe that, but let's say the guy in actuality is out of your league.
Then I can't.
He's gonna fuck you and then not ever date you.
Okay.
I mean, if you're okay with that, that's fine.
But if you're trying to, you're not going to be able to secure a relationship from that guy if he's truly out of your league.
If he's going to fucking dip based on what I look like, then I don't want a relationship with him.
I mean, news flash men care about physical appearance.
I know, we've been over this.
I mean, you were potentially setting yourself up to get hurt or screwed over.
And it's not even, he might not even dip, but he's just going to keep you around for sex.
He's not going to commit to you, is what I'm trying to say.
He's not going to commit to you.
I wouldn't want to commit to someone who isn't going to commit to me in that way.
Right, but he's going to keep you around just for sex.
But I'm allowing that, so who's really winning?
If I'm allowing, because I have to have a say in the matter, it takes two to tango.
Sure.
So if I'm allowing it, then obviously I'm fine with it.
But I mean, it's often women who complain that men aren't willing to commit to them.
Oftentimes, yeah, but I don't care.
You don't care about commitment?
I don't care.
If I'm.
If I fucking someone.
She belongs to the screen.
If I'm fucking someone and then, like, if I'm, okay, we're fucking, and that's all that needs to be, then, like, that's fine.
Like, I don't understand how this got from me rating myself.
How did we end up here?
How'd we end up here?
Quit, how did you rate yourself?
Yeah, I want to hear a six.
6.9 on a good day.
Damn.
What?
You think that's too high?
I mean, I just said damn.
What the fuck?
What?
I just said damn.
Why did you say damn?
Because that's immediately what popped in my head when you said that.
When I said six?
Yeah, I was like, damn.
There's no, it's neutral.
That's not a neutral.
That wasn't it.
What did you mean?
It's neutral.
You think six is too high?
Say what you think.
Who said that?
You can say what you think.
But why would I do that?
Well, then.
You think?
What did you rate yourself for minor?
I.
I rated myself a seven.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
6.9 on the good day.
All right.
Damn, what the fuck?
Okay, so.
Brian is very turt, Brian.
Are you hurt?
I'm sorry, everybody.
Don't be hurt.
My humor is.
I'm deeply hurt.
I'm deeply hurt.
She is not a seven.
Oh, my God.
What rate would you like?
Say if you want to date a girl, what kind of rating would you do to date her?
What does she need?
Yeah, what does she need for you?
Physical appearance?
Yeah.
What does she have to be?
like a five six seven like what's your what does she have to be I mean, for you.
I mean, I care about more than just appearance, but like seven's good.
Give me a seven.
You know?
Get you a seven.
And what does that like entail?
Like what.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do I mean?
What do you mean?
What do I mean?
What do I mean?
I'm just asking questions.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Okay, so what physical attributes does she need to be a seven?
Like a solid seven?
What does she need?
I mean, you know it when you see it.
Like you want me to articulate the fucking jaw structure.
Absolutely.
I want you to paint me a picture.
Paint us.
It could be just a picture.
Okay, I'll tell you what my type is.
How about that?
No, no, no.
I need like a title.
Actually, I need to enter a T.
No, I want to know.
Bro, like her boob size, like her waist size.
Like I need everything.
Her shoe size.
Shoe size, motherfucker.
Shoe size.
Okay, wait, what's your type?
I want to know what your type is.
Okay, 411 beef curtain queen.
Beef curtain.
Well, I like Audis.
I like Audis.
That's a fact, for sure.
Files guy?
You're not going to know if she's an innie or an Audi because I'm not sure.
I'm going to know the first time we fuck.
I'm talking like, no, see someone walking down those streets.
You know what?
I wish there was like data points that X-ray vision?
X-ray vision.
Do you want to see their Audis before you commit to that?
Oh, shit, I'll ask.
I'll ask.
Do you have an innie or an Audi?
No, I like Audi's.
Audi's are good.
I like innies too, but yeah.
So that's your preference.
My DMs are open.
What?
Your types are sevens with a if her height doesn't start with a four, she ain't the one.
Oh, short, yeah, shorter the better.
No, I'm, I mean, I'm kind of joking.
Like, I do have a slight preference.
I'll date a midget.
My DMs are open.
I will get with a midget.
Sorry, dwarf.
Dwarf.
Yeah, sorry.
It's a person.
Forgive us.
No, I'm serious.
I will.
So I have a.
I'll date a woman who's taller than me, but I would say overall I have a slight preference towards shorter short.
Yeah, little people.
You could dominate them in bed.
Fun size.
You know, they'd like throw them up.
Fucking throw them over here.
Throw them over there.
Right, right.
And honestly, okay, this is.
Jesus Christ.
I like a thick girl.
Don't get me wrong, but OK, if the thighs, what's the weight limit?
What's the point?
How thick?
It depends how tall she is.
Well, obviously, if she's 411, then what's the weight she's got to be in?
Probably, I don't, I don't know.
I'm not sure what's going on.
Are we talking like 85 to like four?
I mean, sub 100 is good, I guess.
If she's short, sure.
But if she's like average height, average weight.
No, I shouldn't say average.
You can't have both.
A lot of these motherfuckers.
You gotta have thick or you're gonna have sub 100.
But here's the thing.
What were you gonna say?
Okay, thighs.
If the thighs are too big and she's on top, I can't like.
But if she's lighter, it doesn't matter, right?
You know, because that's like thick, thick.
Oh, you want to do the reach around?
Oh, just like that.
To rub her clip.
Wait, why don't you rub it if she's on top?
You rub it like this.
You don't rub it around her.
No, no, no, no.
Okay, if she's on top, right?
You go around the leg.
You don't go.
You don't.
But if she's on top of it, her pussy's right here, you can do this.
From the front, you're saying with your thumb.
Like, she's on top.
It's right here.
No, no, no.
See, because when the girl's on top, she's not riding.
She's down here, hair pull in the ear.
Wait, reverse cowgirl?
Is her butt to you?
Cowgirl.
Is her face to you?
Yes.
Oh, you're right.
But she's not on her.
She's laying on her chest.
She's laying on my chest.
Oh, yeah.
If she's up, you can't do the reach around anyways.
Yeah, that's why we're confused.
No, but she's down by my side here.
I couldn't see her.
Okay.
So you're trying to reach for a clit when she's in the back.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, like from the back or from the front?
From the back?
It's from the side, huh?
If the thighs are too big, I can't.
It's like fucking my, it's hard.
You know?
I like, you know, anyways, I don't know.
So, like, how thick do you, like, how what's like your thick preference?
Are we talking about labia?
Like, labia.
Thick.
The bigger, the better.
Oh, yeah.
Give me, yes.
I'm not even exaggerating.
Oh.
So I look like a little person.
So you do.
So, because little people, their weight distribution is usually like.
So you're not going to have sub-80s.
No, wait, I'm talking about.
Yeah, you're not.
I'm talking about labia.
Oh, I thought you were.
You're talking about labia.
When I say bigger, the better, I'm talking about labia.
Oh, I see.
What if she has a giant clit?
Sure.
Giant clit or a penis jay?
I'm down for it.
That comes with the large labia, I guess.
Does it?
No, not always.
No, no, no.
But boobs.
I don't really.
Boobs are big boobs are fine.
Small boobs are fine.
I don't really care.
Are you a booby guy or a button guy?
Butt guy.
I'm a labia guy.
I'm a labia guy.
Clearly.
What?
Women.
Shadows for you.
What the fuck, man?
Yo.
Listen, women can have a genital preference.
They like big digs.
I like large labia.
Listen.
Speak your truth, King.
I am.
No, it's live your truth.
Listen, I think it, no, but I mean, I know we're having fun here, but I don't want to be flippant about this.
It is unfortunate that women who do have Audis get shamed for it.
You know, you hear Arby's, roast beef, like all these terms, right?
And there's dudes like who like wrongly think that if a woman has an Audi, like she's been ran through.
Like that's not how that works.
Like you don't get an Audi if you've had sex with a bunch of guys.
That's not how that works.
But okay.
I need to use the bathroom really quick.
So let's pull up a video.
We're going to react.
By the way, guys.
If you did not know, Jade and Kat here have a podcast, and I've curated some of their most toxic, awful clips from their most recent episodes.
So we're going to react to a few.
We're going to do soup chats.
We'll get back to, I know, guys, we'll catch up on the soup chats after we watch one of the clips.
So yeah, guys, they have a podcast, so check them out.
The link's in the description.
Yep.
Oh, wait, shit.
Did I?
Please tell me I added it.
Okay, I did.
eric can you pull up the video tab please okay we're gonna do it's at the very top very top very top Let's do.
Yeah, do the first one.
Why not?
Oh, my God.
I'm so excited.
When I see an Asian guy, when I see his past, while we use the bathroom, are we allowed to pull up our phones or diversity and their dating history is a red flag.
Yeah, because they have so many types.
Like, they would just go for anybody.
Oh.
Right?
They wouldn't just go for meat because I'm, you know, Asian, right?
They won't go for like a specific type they have.
They like everybody.
So they think everybody's attractive.
Oh, so they're just out here just like looking at everyone like a piece of meat out here.
Okay, so it's like more competition.
I think so.
Maybe we've just misjudged white guys.
Why?
Are you thinking of dating white guys?
No?
Absolutely not.
We're loyal to our race.
Yeah.
We'll stick to our race to the day we die.
I think we are.
Asian for life.
Asian for life.
What did she say?
Asian for life.
Asian for life.
Okay.
What do you guys base your podcast on?
Mostly like sex, relationships, dating.
And we have like other creators come on our show and talk about this, you know, different things, like have their hot takes on things.
Do you guys have a favorite podcast to watch like your guys's?
Like Caller Daddy.
Oh my God, I love Color Daddy.
I call her Daddy.
Yeah.
Well, these chat people, they agree.
They're loyal to their race, you know?
Yeah.
I just feel like, I feel like, okay, I feel like if an Asian girl, for example, goes out with Brian and like tolerates the tolerates splitting the check and stuff, I'd feel colonized almost, you know?
It's not because I don't feel like white guys are attractive because they are, but like, I feel like there's so much underrepresentation for our own race that like, like, why would I go out with a guy who like doesn't want to invest anything in me who's just white and that's all he has to offer rather than being with an Asian guy who shares my same culture who's underrepresented and will share the same beliefs I do Jade What do you want me to say?
Oh, about about that?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I think she hit the point on that.
Like everyone has types, right?
That's just my type.
Also, I feel like a lot of people, like the hot take that Jade had, a lot of them are saying that Jade was like, or that we're racist.
And I don't think it really speaks to, like, I don't think it was like a racist comment.
I think, if anything.
It's a preference.
It's a preference, but also, if anything, it spoke to Jade being a little bit naive, thinking just because a guy has Diverse dating past that means that they'll appreciate her less.
So I feel like, if anything, it's not because Jade's racist.
That's what people took it as.
Word.
Which is why I clipped it and put it up there and asked Jade if I could, obviously, because I didn't think it was a racist take by her.
It was more of like a naive funny take.
Well, I think you guys also hammed it up a bit for your podcast, you know.
But so would you guys just question, would you guys date an Asian guy?
Or sorry, would you date a white guy?
That's what I was going to ask.
It really depends, but from what I'm comfortable with and from what I've dated, it's been Asian guys.
I think it's going to continue that way.
Unless a really special white guy comes in my life.
I'm not going to say never.
Jade, what about you?
I just have a preference towards Asian guys.
Asian guys?
Yeah.
But have you guys dated white guys?
I grew up with Asians, so I never really been around white guys, so no, I haven't.
You've never dated?
I've never dated a white guy.
Really?
Yeah, because I'm not around them.
I'm not surrounded by them.
But I mean, you're in LA, so.
Penominate LA.
Okay.
Have you ever hooked up with a white guy?
No.
Not even hooked up.
You've never slept with a white guy.
How are you going to peg me?
I mean, I'll peg you.
Okay.
Just make an exception for you.
Guys, I'm joking.
Chat, I'm joking.
I'm joking.
Okay, wow.
I just feel more comfortable with Asians.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
I'm.
No, I'm kidding.
Eric, let's pull up the next clip.
Actually, you know what?
Sorry.
Sorry, bring it back.
Let me catch up on super chats here.
Let's see.
Yeah, let me just get these super chats.
Sorry, guys, that we're taking, we took a while to get to some of these.
Dave on Jackson with the $10 Super Chat, the top 12 wealthiest women in the world made their money through inheritance or divorce.
That's a real thing.
I think this goes back to what we were talking about with the marriage, divorce, finances component.
So, yeah.
Word.
Okay.
Word, good for you.
Dave on Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
It's not about who hurt us specifically.
It's about who hurt the 80% of men who wanted to remain married and were served divorce papers.
But because of what, though?
You'd have to, like, you can't expect a woman to stay in a relationship if a guy is just cheating on her, abusing her, treating her like shit.
So, like, that's kind of taken that statistic, I think, is taken a little bit out of context.
I mean, I doubt most divorces are because of abuse or infidelity.
I'm sure most of them are because of infidelity.
Yeah, infidelity.
It's infidelity or financial issues.
Also, a lot of children are involved.
A lot of things stem from like if a child gets sick and like they're in a hospital or something like that.
Which also goes to like financial because that's a great financial burden.
So I feel like it would either be like infidelity, finances, or well, finances are the primary reason why there are divorces, but I mean, women just get bored.
So do women.
They just get bored.
So do men.
Like, like you just said, like, the older the man gets, he's going to want to seek a younger woman.
So what is a man doing with his 45-year-old wife when he has a 25-year-old down the street, you feel?
Like, you can't make one point and then disregard it in the next state.
You got to talk into the microphone.
I'm so sorry about that.
I'm sorry.
I've just like had to having a conversation.
But you just said, you have men who biologically, as you stated, they want a younger woman.
So what is a 45, 50 year old man doing with his 45-year-old wife when he has a 25-year-old down the street?
That's pretty rare.
I mean, okay, do you want me to say like 35, like 19-year-old?
Like, like a younger woman, or a more attractive woman, or a more physically fit woman, or someone who piques his interest at like some point in time.
Like infidelity is a huge thing.
I mean rates of infidelity are pretty equal between men and women.
I know, but so what we're arguing against is that like you can't expect a woman to stay because like you feel like you want to stay in the marriage.
Like if she feels like, for instance, like she says that the statistic is skewed, right?
Because there could be other things that could contribute to said divorce, right?
And I'm saying, okay, as you just said, you have men who want to actively seek out younger women.
So what's not to say that the statistic of people getting divorced is because the guy wants to cheat on her or whatever infidel, like whatever infidelity situation there's going on.
Okay, well, so like I said, men and women cheat at pretty equivalent rates.
So as far as guys want the younger women components kind of irrelevant if the woman's just going to cheat with one of her co-workers who cares about the age or whatever it is of the cheating partner.
So I think infidelity is not really a huge thing.
And also you have dead bedrooms in relationships.
And dead bedrooms are mostly driven by women.
They lose interest in sex.
And so, I mean, if you want to talk about infidelity, maybe more men are likely to be pushed towards infidelity because their wives, it's a dead bedroom.
The wives don't want to have sex anymore.
Yeah, why don't they want to have sex anymore?
Because women lose their sex drive as they get older?
No, that's not what I'm saying.
But in long-term relationships, you probably, it's less exciting.
I think that there is something to be said about that.
I think you're right.
Sometimes infidelity happens because of that.
So couples should be more communicative about their wants and needs sexually.
Right.
Yeah.
I do think a woman has a responsibility to her husband to like, not that she owes him sex, but to be sensitive to the fact that like he is like a sexual being and to just be like communicative about it.
Well, yeah, I mean, part of sex is having, sorry, part of marriage is you are, and even monogamous relationships, you are the sole avenue for each other to have sex.
So if one person starts, like their sex drive decreases, how can, like, okay, if I got into a relationship with a girl and she just stopped wanting to have sex, unless there's a very good reason, like, and I think this will be for both men and women.
Like, if one partner in a relationship just loses their interest in having sex, it's probably either going to be the end of the relationship or infidelity.
And women are typically the ones that you often hear men complaining that their wives don't want to fuck them anymore.
I think if you look in marriages, there's a lot of other factors specifically surrounding women as to like why they won't have sex with their husband.
A lot of men, or like typically women, will kind of use sex as like initiative, like incentive to do things around the house.
Like if you're not doing dishes and the woman's always doing dishes, always doing the laundry, always like taking care of the house, like what makes her want to go and have sex with you later that night?
Like put in some effort.
Okay.
Wait, what?
Sorry, repeat it one more time.
Sorry, I was distracted by chat.
Say it one more time.
I'm sorry.
The entire thing?
Yeah.
Say the I think if you're looking in marriages, women typically will use sex as incentive for men.
And if they lose their sex drive, it could be because of a man not helping out around the house.
That's ridiculous.
That's fucking ridiculous.
They do though, but that's opposite.
Also, turning a woman on is way more than just like the things you do in the bedroom.
Like women are typically like more, you're gonna want, you want to see effort outside of just like, oh, I want to get laid.
Sex is an equal value exchange.
Both men and women get pleasure.
No, I'm saying typically in marriages, a lot of the times when men aren't getting laid, it's because they're not doing something.
Like they're not helping out the woman the way she needs to, like, be it like emotionally or like around the house or something in that stance where like she's not in the mood at all.
Like her entire day is ruined.
She's not in the mood.
She doesn't want to fuck you that night.
Like if I was working all day and I came home and the house is a fucking mess, I'm not going to be horny for you later.
Like I don't want to touch you.
You piss me off.
Is this your.
This is me hypothetical.
Hypothetical stay-at-home husband.
No, this is just, this is me hypothetically bringing to the table an example of why I think in marriages, women tend to give their husbands sex less.
Women tend to give their husbands.
Because they're not happy in the marriage, because men are happy in the marriage.
They're not horny for them.
Yeah, they're not receiving more than just like sexual pleasure.
I would say that it's getting.
It's an equal relationship.
That's what I'm saying.
Like women, if they're always feeling that they're doing everything around the house, if they're always like putting in work with the kids or like doing household chores and whatnot, obviously you're not going to want to go have sex with your man later because like you're annoyed.
That's why you just need to communicate though.
Like if I was like communication.
I'm saying like in marriages like that's what I've typically heard about seen.
Like a lot of examples are like women that aren't happy with what their man is doing at home, helping her out more than just physically and sexually.
So your advice to men is they should do more chores to get laid?
Not the conversation.
That's not my direct advice.
That's just like me noticing a trend in marriage about men and women and why the woman may not be putting out for the man as much.
I mean a man could be a fantastic partner and the woman can just not be attracted to the woman.
I gave one example though.
Like that was literally just like one example.
Yeah.
I mean dishes are hot though.
Like if I come home to a clean if I come home to a clean house if I just worked it's like the same thing with a man.
He wants if he's working all day he wants to come home to dinner being made.
Like it's like a similar thing.
Like here's what I'm doing.
I'm working all day and the house, I come home and the house is disgusting after working all day and being tired.
Like I'm not going to want to have sex with you in a dirty house.
Like if the house is clean, like I'm going to be more inclined to have sex with you that night.
I was going to say that I would think like the more the most reasonable thing that makes sense to me would be that the relationship is no longer like you're not communicating about what the other needs.
Like in intercourse you're supposed to be pleasuring each other.
So say one person wants something very rough and very quick and very fast but someone wants someone very sweet, very sensual.
And so then there's a disconnect in the bedroom because it's like you want one thing and I want the other, but we both can't match each other's expectations on that.
And so thus like we have people that's like, I don't even want to do anything with you because you don't want to do the things that I want to do.
And even if I do things you don't, like you want me to do, you're not going to match the same energy.
But that would make the same point about communication.
You have to communicate for the most part.
Like that would be my like the most reasonable answer to say like a dead bedroom like you said.
I mean men communicate often in these dead bedroom situations that they want to have sex, but then like she's not it's just not happening.
Well because there's also like you know like you can only you can you put out and then you have to also you have to receive too like you have to like you have to give and take from that.
I don't think we should assume in these dead bedroom situations that the men are necessarily doing something wrong.
I'm saying both parties are that the guy isn't a good lover.
No, no, no.
Like, I'm saying both parties could be equally not a good lover or what have you, but I feel like it's just not communicating.
Like, there's no communication between what both parties want.
That would be the most reasonable kind of excuse that I would have for a dead bedroom.
Here's what I think is the cause of dead bedrooms.
Okay.
Women throughout.
Here's what I think, right?
Okay.
When women are young, say from like 18 to late 20s, they're dating the hot dudes, the guys who are really great in bed, the really attractive guys.
Those guys are not willing to commit.
When it comes time to have a family and have children, they want the reliable, probably a bit dull, provider.
So they settle down, or they consider they settle for a provider, and that guy is not exciting to them the same way that the guy who's a bad boy, who's a jerk, is exciting to women.
That's what I think is happening.
That's why I think there's dead bedrooms in marriages.
I think that's some truth to that, actually.
But I think women should not settle and lower their standards for someone that they think is just safe.
Because I feel like men and women both deserve a partner that they like value and they hold to the highest esteem.
That's like the truly healthy relationship.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like getting married.
Nah.
Nah, I'm not going to get married.
She'd have to be probably make more than me.
Okay.
Let's just get.
I got to blast through these super chats just because we've got quite a few.
I think we got that one.
Okay, we got Mike Davis here with the $10 Super Chat.
Something wrong in the head with most women nowadays.
The only sane women seem to be Latina.
No white or black women for me.
Also, this group of basic girls wouldn't date Brad Pitt.
Deranged.
Wow, you guys wouldn't date Brad Pitt.
Damn.
Remember that when they said they wouldn't date?
Can you pull up the Mike Davis Burger King thing really quick?
Boom.
Look at that handsome fella.
By the way, if any of you are on the West, or sorry, the East Coast, he'll hook you up with a Whopper.
Nice.
Okay.
We got Dayvon Jackson here with the $10 Soup Chat.
My thing is the man should pay on the first date, but the woman should have zero judgment on where he chooses to take you.
Also, these women just want the man to invest first without having to do anything.
Dayvon, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Do you guys have a response?
I think he has a point.
I think that's true.
I think it's true, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, unless the guy asks, where do you want to eat?
But if he's asking on a date and he wants to choose, I think that's perfectly reasonable.
McDonald's.
Sure.
I like McDonald's.
We're probably going to get McDonald's.
Chicken nuggets.
Yeah.
If he gives you chicken nuggets, he's the one.
It could be a fun McDonald's date.
We got Mike Davis.
Is that a COVID cough, by the way?
No, it's not.
It's really stuffy and kind of hot in here.
Oh, yeah.
Eric, can you open the door?
We got Mike Davis here.
Every woman who walked out of my life has been a major blessing.
If an entitled woman wants me to pay, I'll take her to one of my Burger King joints and give her some leftover about to expire shit.
Okay.
Oh, he hates women.
Damn, no, no.
Mike Davis loves Mike Davis.
Can we pull up the Burger King image one more time?
I feel like.
Look at that.
Look at how happy his female employee is.
He actually looks like a nice guy.
Yeah, he's a good guy.
But I feel like his mother probably cheated on his father.
That's why he feels that way.
Whoa, jeez.
Seriously, that's like usually when guys hate women, that's why.
Holy moly.
Wow.
Such a dude.
Never mind.
Okay.
We got Dave on Jackson here with the $10 Sup Chat.
Most women, even if they are the ones that ask you out, will expect you to pay.
Usually women don't ask much.
Yeah, usually women don't ask.
One time, guys, check this out.
I've said before, I'll say it again.
One time, a girl bought me a burrito.
That is so sad.
I'm saying that.
And then, did you eat her pussy after?
Well, here's the thing, right?
Here's the thing.
Real is she's a super sweet girl, but she was.
I didn't know this beforehand, but I agreed to go on the date with her.
She asked me out, too.
She paid for the date.
She was like legit, proper Christian.
And she was like, waiting till marriage.
And I was like, you're really sweet, but like, I'm not looking to wait.
Like, I'm not looking for a one-night stand either, but I'm not waiting till marriage, you know?
Michael Trilstein with the big $100 soup chat.
Oh, whoops, I pressed the wrong one.
Here we go.
I'm an amateur with the stream deck.
Brian is hot.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
When are you coming back to California, dude?
We'll get you back on the show.
Okay.
We got a Susque Finest with the Canadian, Canadian $10.
Do you speak French, by the way, or you're not from the French speaking?
We have to learn French in high school.
Tu parles français?
A petit peu.
C'est biença.
Okay.
Why do you expect us to be traditional when you are not?
Good question.
Good question.
Go ahead.
We'll ask that.
like in the way of like in the way of paying for the first date I don't think it's I don't think again my rationale isn't just like based on tradition My rationale for guys paying on the first date is rooted in the fact that I want him to show some type of investment up front because that's the best way for me to gauge whether a guy is interested or not in me.
And it doesn't have to be a big investment, just a gesture.
I want to just add to the whole who should pay on the first date thing.
I might have already.
Did I already talk about it?
I don't know.
Jade, do you want to just respond?
Oh, what was the question?
Something about why.
Can you pull it up?
Why be traditional when you're not?
I think deep down rooted, I'm like an old soul.
I am very traditional.
I want loyalty.
I want to be with one guy.
And yeah, I think I am pretty traditional in that sense.
What about you?
You said the guy should pay on the first date.
I think that if you're pursuing a relationship, then that should just be the first thing you do.
I don't know.
I've given a lot of reasoning, I feel like, since this was made.
I don't know.
Modern problems call for modern solutions.
And I'm not saying that the guy's always paying 100% of the time.
I'm just saying, like, first date, if you're pursuing a relationship, it's not just a hookup.
It's not just friends with benefits, going out, whatever.
Like, if you're pursuing a relationship, that's the traditional way to do it.
That's usually the way that a relationship starts.
Are you a traditional woman?
In a relationship, yeah, I would, yeah, I am.
Okay.
I don't know.
Okay, so.
It really just varies.
Relationship, friends with benefits, hookup, like, it just varies.
I mean like if I'm obviously I mean if you're engaging in hookups If you're engaging in hookups Going into his place and we're gonna fuck We're not going out on a date But, okay, if you're engaging in hookups, like, you're not a traditional woman.
And that's fine.
That's fine.
But you can't consider yourself a traditional woman if you're hooking up regularly with dudes.
At what time point?
Because hypothetically, I could be messing around with other guys, but when it's time for me to settle down, like.
Not if.
If you're sleeping with more than one guy at a time, you're not a traditional woman, right?
But if I'm looking to settle down, I become that traditional.
I'm ready to settle down and like, I'm ready to have a relationship and I'm not screwing around with like, a bunch of men.
What's the most amount of men that you've seen concurrently?
I don't know three four five, like.
What's the relevancy, like I couldn't tell to assess the degree to which you're in traditional relationships with none.
So when you're not in a relationship, what is the most amount of men that you've concurrently been seeing?
It varies.
Just give me a number.
Give me a number, zero to a hundred, I don't know.
Okay fine like, all right, it's fine.
If you don't want to answer, that's fine.
Look, I think modern problems call for modern solutions.
So I don't know the thought of giving my time attention, resources we're speaking about paying on the first aid here and intimacy to a woman who is sleeping with one or more.
But if i'm going on actual dates and i'm not sleeping around with all these no, i'm just talking about me.
I'm talking about me here okay, so the thought of me giving all those things to a woman who's sleeping with another man to me is kind of disgusting.
I'm gonna say it, it's gross.
Okay, it's gross.
Have you slept with like what, like what?
So are you traditional?
Um, I mean not totally, but i'm, I don't have like, if i'm sleeping with a girl, like I don't have four other girls, five other girls i'm sleeping with at the same time.
There's been periods where i've maybe had a degree of overlap, maybe between two girls, but like, so you're not additional, then no, but overwhelmingly like, if i'm sleeping with a girl, i'm only sleeping with her.
Okay, and that's not because I could, it's not because I couldn't have three or four girls on a roster, it's not because I couldn't, it's because I don't.
Honestly, i'm gonna be honest, it's like takes a lot of time to be juggling a whole bunch of people and I feel like, as long as you communicate that to your partners, then there shouldn't be an issue anymore.
Like if a woman is communicating to that, like if a woman is communicating to you that like sleeping with other men thank you Eric, go ahead if a woman is like communicating to you that she's sleeping with other men, then obviously like, you're not gonna put in that effort.
If you want a relationship sure right, but if okay, so let's say i'm.
If somehow she reveals to me most women are not gonna reveal that they're sleeping with other men um, it's just, it's done, i'm not gonna.
I don't even want to.
That's up to you.
That's completely your own personal.
I don't want to do anything with you, right?
That's completely your own personality.
You're free to do it, by the way women, you're free to do it.
But right, and that's all personal preference.
It's all conversation, right?
I don't know, I don't think anyone would like.
Like nobody yeah, nobody's gonna be like wanting like, if I go on a date with you and you're sleeping with five other women, obviously i'm not gonna want to settle down in a relationship like yeah, it just goes, it's all communicating what your plans are.
If you're looking for a relationship, you're like hey, I'm interested in you more than just sleeping with you.
Like, I would be fine.
I would be looking for a relationship with you.
And you would communicate that to the person that you're pursuing.
And if you're not wanting that, then that's fine.
That's all up to you.
But like, what some guys will do is even they'll still pursue that, not pursue things, but they'll still acknowledge that a girl is sleeping with other guys.
They'll still want to have sex with her.
I don't want, like, when I say I don't want anything, I really mean I don't want anything.
I don't want to have sex with you, even with a rubber.
I don't want head.
I don't want to cuddle.
I don't want to even kiss you.
It's a wrap.
Right.
Like, that's a good idea.
I don't know.
If you're not truly single, don't waste my time.
And women can feel this exact same way.
No, I think there are women that do feel that exact same way.
But again, like, it's just what you're communicating to your partner.
If two people are fine with like sleeping, it's like an open relationship.
Like, if two people are fine with sleeping around, then that's their own commitment to each other.
If they want to be completely exclusive, that's their own commitment to each other.
Of course, it all has to be communicated.
So I think it just depends.
Like, case by case.
Okay.
Let me get these.
Let's get these two chats.
All right.
We got Landon Musso.
Brian, give us a Paisley update.
Did you guys end up hooking up after the show ended?
And will she be back on a future show?
A Paisley update.
I mean, when it was the girl like two weeks ago that was on here, and you were like, Oh, yeah.
And she's like, I'll ask you out right now.
And she asked you out.
Remember that?
Well, okay, so there's been like in recent, so there's been three girls.
One girl we were talking about.
Yeah, one girl asked me out live on the show.
I do remember that, yeah.
No, we didn't go out.
What?
She was so pretty.
Bring her back.
Are you sure?
Why did you all go out?
Or did you not?
Did I what?
Did you really not go out with her?
No, we didn't go out.
Do you want to?
Why is that?
Why didn't you guys go out?
I'm not going to get into it.
But, okay.
Then there was the girl who.
Okay.
I'll just answer the soup chat just so I can get through them.
Paisley.
Yeah.
I mean, we talked a little bit after the show, and that was it.
We got Daral here.
Hey, good to see you back in chat, man.
Thank you for the nine, I believe that's British pounds.
Question for the ladies: What's something men can do on social media dating apps to be more attractive and get female attention?
I think putting effort into the, like, for example, on Hinge or like the dating bios, if you put a little bit of effort, actual effort into the dating bios, I think that's a turn on because that shows that you like put thought into it and you're not just like, here's my dick, come fuck me, you know.
I think if to really up your Instagram game, if you have something one picture of you doing something you love, so for example, if the guy's like playing poker, if he's playing basketball, like an action picture or like an outdoor shot really gets up there.
I agree with what Kat said, just effort in your pictures.
I feel like that really does.
No fish pictures, apparently.
If fishing is something you love, but like not the only picture, like from three years ago, you know.
So I think, okay, this is my take on guys' social medias.
Be a little up-to-date.
Like it doesn't, like, not a couple months ago, like, at least just like in the same year, please.
Like, everyone changes so much.
And I mean, my age at least, like, two.
But stay a little up-to-date at least.
And again, do something that you love.
Also, just not every picture doing the same pose with your home voice, okay?
Like, I want some shots of just you.
Because if I can't tell which one you are, that's just going to make me irritated.
I have to, or at least tag your hot friends then.
Any picture with a dog.
Any guy with a dog?
Yeah, a dog's an actual, like, automatic winner.
Yeah, yeah.
Something that pet.
I think, yeah, doing something you love is good.
Something that you have a hobby or an interest in, something you could possibly teach.
Because that's a great conversation starter, too.
Like, if you want a girl to sign your DMs, then have doing something you love.
Or if you traveled, like, post some pictures of you in that place.
And then it's like, oh, okay, you went to Italy.
I went to Italy too last year.
Like, let's talk about it a little bit, you know?
Copy Brian's Instagram.
You got some good pics.
yeah with you laying on the bed with your dog like that's oh yeah we were looking at your Oh, wow.
Oh my god, this guy got game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was nice for Jerry.
Thank you guys.
So this was the one we just did.
My advice for what's something men can do on dating apps to be more attractive.
I mean, you did ask the ladies, so I don't know if you want me to weigh in.
I mean, definitely have good photos.
And if you're on Hinge, write some shit.
Okay, let me just get through these soup chats.
Dave on Jackson thinking through the $10 soup chat.
Men ask for a lot less from women than women ask for from men.
So the things men do ask for carry more weight.
That's true.
That is very true.
I think that's true.
Yeah, valid.
I think women have these long, not always, but like long laundry lists of things.
Whereas men, like, honestly, just loyal, be hot, don't be annoying.
That's kind of be feminine.
Get their dick sucked.
Fallatio as a boss.
Guys are simple.
Yeah.
That's reasonable.
That's pretty reasonable.
They just want to have morning head every morning.
Get fed and guys are happy.
Michael.
Morninghead.
Yeah.
Honestly, I don't like women sleeping over.
Oh.
I don't know if you like them.
Even if you love them, you don't like them sleeping over them.
Honestly, even.
Because they snore, right?
No, not people.
Actually, I did have a girlfriend that snored like fucking insane.
Like it was never again.
But no, most women, that's not the primary reason.
It's just I really value my sleep.
And like if you're sleeping next to someone for me, I don't know if it tends to be kind of distracting, I guess.
And I have difficulty sleeping in the same bed as someone.
I do too.
Yeah, so I feel that.
Or just you fall asleep first.
Even then, they're going to wake me up.
Oh, I get it.
Morning head is good.
Like a lot of guys.
Like, because you get hard in the morning.
Don't you fap in the morning?
No.
When do you fap at night?
I don't really masturbate.
At all?
Rarely.
Like, you're doing the no fap challenge?
No, just.
No, not November.
If I got a girl in the picture, I don't really need it.
So what was awesome?
I'm not going to be jacked off.
I don't know.
Two months ago, maybe.
What was awesome you had sex?
I'm not going to answer that.
Why not?
I'm not answering that.
You've got so many personal questions, man.
No, I think you had sex yesterday.
Yesterday.
Why is he?
Because you're glowing.
He's glowing.
He's red and blessed.
Listen, I am a man of God.
I am a man of God.
Sir celibacy over here.
Yeah.
You're probably with a girl.
Like, you're dating someone right now.
I'm guessing.
I don't know.
Listen, I'm.
Anyways, moving on.
Well, I'm single.
You know.
Okay.
We got Michael Tristan here with the $100 Soup Chat.
Kiki, do you love me?
No.
Wow.
I'm sorry, Michael.
She just rejected you.
Okay.
We got Michael Tristan with the $10 Soup Chat.
Actually, she slept with the she's in the bathroom with the chocolate on the panel.
She said I wasn't as big as her other.
Wait, what?
You gotta wait for this one when she comes back out.
Okay, we'll pull that one back up, Michael.
Did this 300 really say we should stay lonely?
Oh, I didn't say we should stay lonely.
I hope you don't.
I hope you don't stay lonely, but there's nothing wrong with being lonely.
I'm not telling you to be miserable.
By the way, go sub to her OnlyFans.
See, you're what's the term for it?
Your conflict of interest.
It's biased, right?
It's a conflict of interest for you to say, men, it's okay to be lonely.
By the way, here's my OnlyFans coupon code, whatever.
Okay.
Michael Trilsteen with the shout out to my friend Waifu Watchers.
All his wives are from anime and will never age, a man of culture.
Michael Trilstein, thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
Much appreciated.
We should have had one of the girls wear the Ahi Gao hat.
Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
Wait, can you demonstrate?
Jade?
Oh, she's a pro.
I'm not really sure.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, so we have one, a super chat specifically for you.
Oh, yard.
Let's see what it is.
He says, I actually slept.
I don't even know if I should say it.
Do you want to read it?
No, not really.
Okay.
Yeah.
Michael Trilstein, getting me in trouble over here.
We got this one.
We got DeRaul.
Thank you for the nine British pounds.
Appreciate it, man.
Would these ladies find it attractive for a man to cold approach them in public, gym, mall, coffee shop?
Yeah, we can ask that really quick.
I mean, these are all kind of different environments.
Like, gyms, I feel like, is a no-go, but anyways, go ahead.
I feel like that's one of the situations where like superficial looks do matter the most.
So it really depends on whether or not I find him attractive.
But I will never like think less of a man for approaching me in public.
Okay.
I like that.
I wish more men do that.
It's like I find it very brave, and I respect them more if they did.
I don't mind whenever someone talks to me or something like that.
Yeah, I agree.
Except for the gym.
The gym's my time.
Yeah, I feel you on that.
The gym, but otherwise, it's fine.
Wait, Jade, I have a question.
Unless I'm like finishing my workout.
Are you full Asian?
Or like half white, half.
I am half white, half Chinese.
Half white, half Chinese.
Okay.
So would you date a half white, half Asian guy?
Or do they need to be pure?
Pure blooded.
I feel like the mixed people are kind of like crazy, honestly.
Really?
Yeah, like you're really fucked up, like personality-wise, I feel.
So you're talking about yourself right now?
Yeah, me too.
Because you're half, right?
Yeah, I'm included.
I feel like growing up as a child, I think a little differently.
I feel like mixed people have like a, they're a little something, there's a little something up with them.
Interesting.
So I feel like in my acting school, all the mixed kids are like, they always do the psychotic characters.
So I feel like I wouldn't date a mixed person.
I would.
Okay.
I'd be open to it, but I prefer Asian.
Jesus.
Yeah.
All right.
We got Michael Trilstein here with the $10 Soup Chat.
I have two girlfriends at Perfect 10s.
Hashtag Top Jew, hashtag Free Tiger King, hashtag free, Joe Exotic.
Also, someone put on the MAGA hat to watch Brian squirm.
Okay.
Thank you, Michael Trilstein.
Mike Davis with the $10 Soup Chat.
Delusional confidence.
No wonder her relationship ended due to insecurity.
She don't believe she attend 6.5 max.
And that's on.
It's unfortunate that she walked out right when I started reading this.
Yeah.
Can we pull up the Burger King photo again?
Sorry, Mike Davis.
What's in that bag, by the way?
Is it the Whopper?
What you got?
Okay.
We got Michael Trilstein with the $10 Super Chat.
With all due respect, your deep voices.
Your deep voice takes you down a few points.
I don't know who this is directed towards, but Ian Bourne X with the $10 Super Jade, cute as fuck.
Would take her out if I had money.
Wow.
Take her out with the $10 just spent on chicken nuggets.
Yeah.
Can you give him a little wink?
There we go.
Boom.
That was good.
He gave the little winky emoji.
We got Luke Warm with the $10 Super Chat.
Instead of rating 1 to 10, she's asked to rate as percentile on bell curve.
It requires acknowledging attractiveness relative to others.
I have no idea how I would do that, but that's a good idea, good suggestion.
We have Leonardo No Caprio with the Canadian $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate the support.
Modern men have to work five times harder than their grandfathers did for women, 20 times worse than what their grandmothers were.
It's called flation, and it's destroying Western men's desire to provide and protect.
Yeah, I guess.
Word.
Sorry, I'm a little tired.
Yeah, I do think that what men have to bring to the table, I think, is a bit more nowadays than in the past.
For men to be appealing in today, like today, I think they have to bring a lot more to the table and have their shit together a lot more.
And what are they getting in return?
Jade.
Okay.
Michael Trillstein with the $10 Soup Chat.
Roast Beef Cross.
Brian, stop the cat.
Michael Trillstein, how dare you, sir?
How dare you?
I'm a man of the people.
Like I said, it's unfortunate that women get shamed for if they got large labyrinth.
My DMs are open.
We got, uh, yep.
Mike Davis with the $10 Soup Chat.
Let these Asians stick with Asian men.
Honestly, they need some love.
Walking around San Francisco got to be torture for Asian men.
No wider the Golden.
No wonder the Golden Gate got layers of Jesus Christ.
What does that mean?
Like, Asian men are throwing themselves off the Golden Gate Bridge because they don't get anything.
I think it's San Francisco.
I do think Asian men are definitely struggling more when it comes to dating.
I think it's becoming better now, though.
I think maybe 10 years ago.
Is that like a K-pop thing?
Yeah, I think Asian culture is becoming more and more accepted, so I think it's a good thing.
Yeah.
It's going the right way.
Yeah, I think, but I think, like, I don't know, a lot of, like, outside their race, a lot of women will say, like, I wouldn't date an Asian guy.
And I think that's, Asian men are fucking lit.
Oh, they are lit.
They are.
I mean, I haven't dated one, but like, I don't know.
There's a lot of like misconceptions about men, including dick size and stuff that are just not true.
And I don't know, like, and I hope this doesn't come off like stereotypical or racist, but I do think that like Asian culture is.
For example, the divorce rate in Asian families is much lower.
They're Asian, more likely to graduate from college, more likely to have stable careers, less likely to be criminals.
So like, I look at that, I'm like, that's hot.
Yeah.
That's a W.
So it's like, what's going on?
Is it a more traditional family structure?
I don't know.
Maybe you guys can speak to that, why you think that there's these sort of differences between.
Well, that's just in Western culture.
I think Asian men are emasculated within the context of Western culture.
Like, even our beauty standards are very different.
If you look at someone, a male who's very attractive by Western beauty standards, that's completely opposite, completely different from what's attractive in the East.
So, obviously, like pop culture and media, Asian men are not going to be portrayed as attractive.
Historically, they've been like the nerds, the dorks, you know.
Yeah.
So, I think that's a large part of it.
If you go to Asia, I mean, Asian men are very in demand in Asia.
Well, yeah.
Because that's where they're from, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've had a lot of male Asian friends, and they've told me, like, yeah, I struggle to find women outside of my race that are attracted to me or that are like, so, uh, and I think that's unfortunate.
But okay, Michael Trilstein with the $10 Super Chat, she just rationalized women not giving their husband the box.
Invest in Chewy, guys.
What's Chewy?
I believe that was directed to you.
No, probably.
Chewy is a pet food company and online company.
I think they're on the stock market.
So basically, there's going to be a lot of cat ladies, is what he's getting at.
So invest in Chewy.
Oh, wow.
Oh, I get it.
I get it now.
I thought he was like an investor in Chewy.
He wanted to inflate the stock prices.
I get it.
I already have, yeah, I have two dogs.
I'm going to be a cat lady one day.
That's fine.
MeowMex.
Okay.
Got Michael Trilstein here with the $10 Super Chat.
A Beach.
Back off my guy, Mike.
Watch your tone.
Know your land.
Not sure who this is directed towards, but yeah.
Probably me.
Everyone was like, oh my gosh, he's so passive-aggressive.
I was like, damn, you guys can't take the ye at all.
Well, no, someone was talking shit to Mike Davis, so I don't know.
Michael Trilstein, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Very traditional hitting your man, L Beach.
Attacked my friend Michael.
L, who attacked my friend Mike.
Okay.
Yeah, I think that was my friend.
I'd like to see you try to hit Mike right to the moon, Alice.
Who's it on?
Is it because of you?
Because you, you were.
Because you said that Mike's.
Yeah.
What?
I thought it was because you got in the fight with your beat up a guy.
Yeah.
I mean, I didn't hurt him too bad.
Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
I don't hate women.
I just recognize that the vast majority are blood suckers.
Oh my God.
Are blood-sucking mosquitoes, leeches that bring no jeep.
Oh, okay.
Mike Davis, I don't know about that one.
Put respect on the menu.
That's a hot take.
That's a hot take.
We love women here, Mike Davis.
We got love for women.
Fuck Lauren.
His mom definitely cheated on his dad.
We're not going to marry him.
We're not going to marry him, but we're going to love him.
Okay.
And lastly, we got Michael Trilstein here with the $10 Soup Chat.
Paisley smashed Brian after the show.
He told me not to tell you guys.
Sorry, bro.
Come on.
Come on, Michael Trilstein.
That did not happen.
Come on.
No.
Yeah, no.
There was nothing.
Okay.
Guys, get your last opportunity to get some super chats in because we are going to wrap here pretty soon.
Let's react to just a few more videos.
Actually, before that, sorry.
I want to open it up to you guys.
Any final thoughts or questions, either for me or for the panel, or for chat, if you want to ask anything.
Are you actually going to answer them?
Oh, you got some questions?
Okay, go ahead.
Well, we had a question earlier, and I'm going to answer it.
Oh, what is it?
What's your, what was it?
When was the last time you had sex?
Oh, I'm not answering that.
Why don't you want to answer it?
Because I'm a man of God.
I'm a very discreet individual.
I do not kiss and tell.
I offer my discretion to my partners.
What?
Okay, when's the last time you had sex?
Well, why would I answer it if you haven't?
You go first.
I asked you first.
Valid?
Very valid.
Yeah, I asked you first.
Come on.
Okay, well, I'm not going to answer.
So I mean.
So I won't answer.
That's fun.
Does anybody else want to answer?
Jade, last time you had sex?
Damn.
Honestly, it's been a while.
Come on, Jade.
No, seriously.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Hopefully soon.
I think I'll have sex soon.
I think I'll have sex by Thanksgiving.
A fortnight ago?
I'm going to have sex by Thanksgiving.
But you'll have sex by Thanksgiving.
Yeah, I hope.
I hope that's not.
Is there a handsome Asian man?
Hopefully.
Okay, I think I know which one it is.
I saw the clip.
Oh, not him.
He has a girlfriend.
We might not be talking about the same person.
Was it the guy I kissed?
No, no, no.
Wait, so, but do you want to answer when the last time was?
You said a fortnight?
14?
12?
Wait, fortnight is 14 days.
No, no, no, fortunately.
It's 14 days ago.
Oh, no.
Longer?
Probably longer.
A month?
Two months?
Three months?
Two months.
Two months?
Okay.
All right.
Kat, what about you?
Two nights ago.
Okay.
No answer.
Okay.
18 years ago?
Wait.
Hold on.
Wait, what?
Sorry.
I mean, no, I meant, I didn't mean, let's just, let's just continue on.
Are you sure you don't want to answer?
If you answer, I'll answer.
Come on.
Answer!
Come on, Brian.
You got this.
Don't be shy.
I'm not answering that.
I'm shy, dude.
Okay, can you answer my question?
What's up?
Are you in a relationship currently?
Yeah, head is, because he scratched his nose.
Oh, my God.
A pellet gun?
What the fuck?
A rock?
Does that sound like a rock?
Did something fall?
I thought it was something that I wasn't.
I think something from outside of the bottom.
What is a harder-than-bottle?
Yeah, a little harder than a bottle.
I thought something fell.
Stream sniper.
You're coming to flawless.
Crazy shit right there.
You're fine.
You're fine.
Probably a stream sniper.
It's all good.
Okay, so find flawless question, Jade.
You didn't even answer my question.
What was your question?
I'm not answering that.
Go ahead.
Okay, Lane.
This is crazy.
Well, what are your red flags?
Oh, yeah, what's like a number one deal breaker?
What are my red flags?
Say she's a 10?
Yeah.
But she doesn't give blowjobs.
What is she now?
Like an 8.
Okay.
I guess you don't like blowjobs that much.
No, I do.
I really like head, but it's not.
That wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
I'd be kind of a bit disappointed, but I mean, if the sex is still good, like, I wouldn't need it.
But if I can get the girl I want and she likes that, then that's good.
That's fine.
Okay.
Yeah.
So.
Oh my God.
Jesus Christ, these comments.
So, oh, red flags.
Okay, so.
I'm trying to think.
Here.
Sorry, that noise fucking threw me off, guys.
It was like super loud.
Okay, say high body count.
I'd say high body count is red flag.
Yeah, it's valid.
High body count is a red flag.
That's a big one for me.
What if she chews with her mouth open?
I don't care.
And she makes like really loud noises.
That's fucking hot.
Really?
Send her my way.
Send her my way.
The head's going to be good, so.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
I'd say body count is the big one.
And then excessive vanity is a big one.
And then just like really quarrelsome.
Someone who's very argumentative, that's a wrap.
I want a girl to bring me peace.
Peace is like the biggest fucking thing for me.
I don't want a girl that's going to be a headache.
And most guys feel the same way.
Do you rather have a like a boring girl or a crazier girl?
Give me a boring girl.
Oh yeah.
I want a boring, boring.
I know I feel like most men like fuck with the crazy No no no no We we don't want men don't want crazy Some do.
No, some guys do.
Some fuck up the crazy.
Maybe women.
No, we would rather err on too dull than too crazy or exciting.
It depends if he's like an introvert or extrovert, because I feel like the shy introverted men like a little spice in their life.
And like the extroverted men want like a normal girl.
Yeah.
So I feel like you're more of the extroverted type.
You think I'm more extroverted?
Yeah.
I think I'm pretty introverted.
Oh, yeah?
I think so.
Yeah.
Maybe a little bit of both.
Yeah, I think I might be a bit in the middle.
Yeah, but, yeah, I prefer pretty, like, super mellow women.
Like, not to say I'm, like, I mean, a woman's humor is pretty low on the totem pole in terms of what I value in a partner.
It's if she's I don't know how to how to frame this.
I'd say I prefer like pretty demure women.
Okay.
Yeah.
Any other final thoughts or questions?
Brian wants to be pegged.
Jesus Christ.
Wait, actually on the topic of body count since I brought it up, do you guys think body count should matter?
No.
No?
Into the mic?
No.
I think it matters.
We're going to wrap soon.
Yes.
You think it matters?
Yes.
I don't think it matters.
Okay.
So you're not going to matter.
Girls and guys, like both ways.
Yeah.
You said it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
You said it doesn't matter.
You said it matters.
You said it doesn't matter.
What's your body count?
Hold on.
Wait, why does it matter?
I want to know why the different opinions.
Because usually I hear about it not mattering, so I want to know why.
You think it does matter?
Oh, you want to know why I think it matters?
Yeah.
Because say you're interviewing a person and you see a lot of jobs on their resume.
You wouldn't want to hire that person.
Rather, if they had one or two consistent jobs for like three to five years, I would rather hire that person.
I think they're very completely different.
I prefer a guy with a lower body count because, I don't know, it's just really?
Yeah.
Because I feel like most women care less about body count.
There's definitely women that do care about it, but I feel like most women don't really care.
I just prefer my man to be more traditional and have less girls in his life.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So your question, hold on.
I'll answer why body count matters, but what's your body count?
If body count shouldn't matter, what's your body count?
What if I said it was one?
I still don't think it matters.
What?
Like, are you asking me that because I said it doesn't matter?
So you're like, oh, she has a high body count.
No, that's not what I'm saying, but I'm seeing if you're open with sharing your body count.
If it doesn't matter, then you should be okay sharing it.
I'll give like a range.
Okay, what is it?
Zero to 20.
That's a decent range.
Zero to 20.
So you're either a virgin or you've slept with 20 men by the time you're 18.
That's not a good range.
You can just say what your number is.
You said, okay, you said body count shouldn't matter, right?
Right.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Three.
Okay.
That's the truth?
Okay.
I don't feel comfortable.
You asked me this before and then, you know.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um I honestly don't really know, but it's probably somewhere between like oops like 2021 to like 25.
Okay.
Jade?
I I honestly I smoke a lot of weed so like I freak.
You forget?
I forget.
Like I don't keep track.
Do you have a range?
I'd say like probably like 11 to 15.
Okay.
Multiply it by three and that's the real number.
Okay.
So okay, your question was why body count matters.
I mean I want to wrap up here pretty soon so I won't get into all the nitty-gritty, but I'll give you a few.
STDs, baggage and or trauma.
The more previous relationships you've had, the more people you slept with, the more likely you're going to bring baggage and or past trauma to the new relationship.
As your body count starts increasing, you start chipping away your ability to pair bond with a future partner.
So your ability to fall in love, your ability to really, really bond with the person.
If you've slept with 100 people before that, you're not going to really be able to bond with someone.
Why not?
Because you're like jaded by so many different types of people.
The bad.
If you had sex with so many people, then it's not as good.
But if sex is just on a physical level, there's not as a problem to you.
I disagree.
So if sex is purely physical to you, there's not an emotional or intimacy component?
Sex is definitely emotional when you want it to be emotional.
But I think you can definitely choose when you want it to be emotional and when you don't.
If you, like, having sex with some random person is completely different than having sex with someone you're invested in emotionally.
I think it's completely different.
It's a completely different type of sex, and it feels completely different.
I mean, you are sort of compartmentalizing there.
But when you start detaching intimacy from sex, when you have sex with guys that you don't care about, or when you have sex with partners that you don't care about, and then when you are in an intimate, serious, long-term relationship, you have started to detach the degree, the value that you put on sex, you've detached some of the intimacy from it.
I just, I disagree with that.
I mean, that's fine.
Like, is that based on what?
Like, are you like, is that like an actual fact, or is that like your opinion?
Well, it's just like the way you view and value sex.
If you only have sex with people you're in long-term relationships with.
And by the way, you're free to do whatever you want.
But, I mean, and they have done studies on this.
So, yeah, you're rewiring your brain towards short-term pleasure seeking.
In the same way, if you've scrolled through TikTok for three hours and then you sit down and try to read a book, good luck.
You're fucking up your attention span.
So in the same way that if you're sleeping with a whole bunch of guys and there's not, it's not serious, you've got a 50-50 body count, you're not, you've detached the pair bonding, you've detached intimacy from the act.
But I think that you're still able to find intimacy.
Intimacy is more than just sex.
Like I think you're still able to find intimacy with a partner that you want to find that intimacy with.
Like if I'm having meaningless sex with whoever I want to, which is completely fine, and that's completely my business, and then I get in a relationship with a guy and I'm actually like emotionally like I am interested in this guy emotionally as well, then I think there's that's intimate in my eyes.
Like and that brings the intimacy into the bedroom is being emotionally into it.
I don't know.
I mean, if your past is you've had 30 sexual partners, none of them were relationships, they were all one-night stands or like you hooked up two or three times, and now all of a sudden you want to get into a relationship with someone, it's just your view on sex is just, you've retrained your brain towards short-term pleasure seeking.
Well, you know what?
I don't necessarily think that having I don't necessarily think that having like non-intimate sex keeps you from having intimate sex in the future.
Yeah, I.
But I do kind of see what you're saying about like maybe like the trauma and the like the trauma like in having baggage maybe a little bit, but I don't think I mean you can say that you can say that about like other types of trauma too.
It's like oh if she's from like a bad family and I want to be with her because she like has a yeah so I think that's I think it's reasonable not to want to date someone who has baggage because like why would you?
If you're not willing if you're not willing to be a good boyfriend and take on that type of responsibility it's good for you to be honest about it.
Yeah, well I mean that's on the topic of baggage if someone's had 50 previous partners like the moment my view is like the moment that something goes wrong in the relationship like your instinct might be like new dick new answers.
I'm just gonna go get another guy.
So whereas if you have fewer partners then you're more likely to be willing to stick it out with that person.
I can see the logic behind it but I don't I think that's a pretty general like it's a pretty like it's like a generalization that I don't think is like true necessarily.
Well I think what's going on with dating now because we have so many options that's why people aren't getting into relationships.
There's always that shine that other shiny object over there.
Someone better is just a swipe away.
So I mean outside of sex you have people just have so many options.
So I don't know.
That's why people are just not committing.
So I'll give you a few more.
Brian, what's your body count?
I'm a man of God.
I do not disclose that.
I mean we answered so much.
I don't share that.
Because I think body count matters.
That's why I don't share it.
So it's between zero and 150.
I know you got a high body count.
Really?
You think I have a high body count?
Why do you think that, Jidd?
I think you just slay women.
You think I slay women?
I think you slay women.
Why do you say that?
Why do you think that?
I feel like you have a lot of game.
You can talk really well.
And you do your pickup stuff.
I feel like it's easy for you.
You think I have game.
Yeah.
Don't start blushing.
I don't know.
I mean, you do the date thing and 50%.
It's a numbers game for you.
Wait, Eric, can you pull something up just so I can show?
You're going to have to open up the folder.
It's in the Dropbox folder.
Eric.
Guys, we're going to wrap in five minutes here.
So, okay, you think I have game?
I think your body count's like 50.
Okay, Eric, open up the Hearthstone file.
Hi, Elo.
King.
I don't know.
Never mind.
I'm just fucking nerd.
Okay, it doesn't matter.
Oh, yeah.
Hi, Elo thing.
Okay, we're going to move on from the body count thing.
Let me get these soup chats.
I do want to react to more.
Can we get you guys back on the show?
Because I want to react to the other videos, but we've gone really long, so.
Our backs are hurting.
Okay, we got yo, Alex Mack, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Joni loves Chauchi, Ben Stiller.
Okay, thank you, Alex Mack.
Man up, Brian, give the crazy ones a chance.
Nah.
Give me a dull girl.
See, I feel like that's the difference between men and women is like there'll be dudes who are criminals that y'all are attracted to.
No, I like my men boring, yeah.
I like nerdy guys.
Okay, well, fair enough.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
Anyways.
Okay, Joe Proper, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Love the Asian in blue.
Hit me up if you are single.
Great show, guys.
You're probably going to have to hit her up, my friends.
But her DMs are open and her OnlyFans is there a coupon?
DeRawal, thank you for the 18 British pounds.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Any chance of Chase being a permanent co-host?
I don't know.
I would like to bring him on more frequently, but Chase has his own business.
I think he'd be a great addition, but I don't.
And me and Chase disagree on a couple things.
I don't know.
That's good.
Maybe.
Maybe.
So, potentially, potentially, but I think he has his own business going on and just, yeah.
Bye, Jade.
Bye.
I love you.
And Borne X, Brian's body count is 75.
Wow.
god damn uh can you pull up the let me see if i can get dave on's here really quick So many super chats.
I might have to boost.
Add the Asians as co-hosts.
They have names, okay?
We're just the Asians, Dee.
The Asians.
Yeah, they have names.
It's Jade and Kat.
Okay.
Let me grab this last super chat here from our boy.
It's not even showing up.
Let's.
What's that?
The one from Dayvon?
Yeah.
Oh, weird.
I don't see it.
Oh, here we go.
Okay.
Dayvonne Jackson, thank you for the $10 super chat.
Appreciate you, man.
Body count for me matters because if it's high, that means you have a habit of putting yourself in positions to get ducked.
That's not the habit I want in my future wife.
Word?
Word.
Word, I guess.
Word.
Guys, we're tired.
we're tired guys so we're um should we one last video Yeah.
Do you consent?
Me?
Yeah.
Why is it all on me?
Oh, no.
You got your purse strapped on.
You're ready to go.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
Everyone's tired here.
It's getting late, guys.
Let's do one more from The Girl's Gone Wild podcast.
Wireless, wireless, wireless.
Oh, sorry.
Wireless wireless wireless.
Yeah, yeah.
I pull up the video tab, Eric.
Let's do the pharma one.
Yeah, here we go.
Pharmacist on what?
Coffee meets bagel?
Yeah.
It was great.
And then I flopped on him.
I'm a little tired today.
I don't want to play basketball with you anymore.
Damn, what does he look like?
Can you boost the audio?
He's like a very tall Asian guy, like regular.
How tall?
190 centimeters.
So that's like 6'4.
It's pretty good, Jade.
And you flopped on him?
Yeah.
What?
That's how you play the game.
Oh, God, fuck.
They gotta chase you.
They gotta chase you.
Yeah, I need to be more like and I'm not that interested in him honestly Rip, can we get some RIPs in the chat for the 6'4 Asian Chad Pharmacist?
So, just curious, like, when you say flop, is that flake?
When you flop like you flaked on him?
Why did 6'4 pharmacist?
Yeah, that's honestly like heights.
That's a catch.
I agree with you.
That doesn't matter to me.
Shit.
What about your baby?
She's not the anti-Simp.
She's the anti-Simp.
She's anti-Semp.
It's like the very opposite.
Yeah.
Just like a cat and like a dog.
Yeah.
Damn.
But Jade, you're curving 6'4 pharmacist.
But also, he was like trying to feed you.
Like, it was very clear that he was just trying to get you wasted.
And like, it wasn't.
It was creepy.
That's pretty weird.
Yeah.
That's pretty fucking weird.
Yeah, that's a yikes for me.
Okay.
But you flaked on him.
Yeah.
God.
Terrible.
Terrible, Jade.
I mean, he could have someone else that wants him for his height, you know?
Like, I'm saving him for someone else.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, we're going to wrap up there.
I want to give a big thank you for tuning in tonight, guys.
I want to give a big thank you to the wonderful panel.
Sorry that we went a little bit late here, guys.
The conversation was just so scintillating.
That's amazing.
And I really appreciate it.
We had some good back and forth there, guys.
So thank you guys so much for coming on.
Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
I appreciate that.
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