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I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
She's a bit shy.
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Quick question for the chat.
What city are you guys watching in?
And also, we need someone in chat to keep track of how many times the girls say like during the show.
Okay, anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major, starting with you.
Hi, my name's Kai.
I'm sorry, what was the order again?
Sorry.
Okay.
Name, age, occupation, and or school major.
Okay, I'm 23.
My occupation is a dancer.
I do kind of a little like a bunch of different side jobs as well.
And side jobs, like you got some hot side hustles, quilts, or what do you do?
Just, I like to do a lot of different things.
So if someone needs like an extra hand or something like that, I help out.
An extra hand?
Yeah, you know, like if no, it's not.
Like, if someone needs a ride with their groceries or those kind of things.
Oh, well, there you go.
There you go.
Wait, so okay.
So you're a dancer and by that you mean a dancer.
But so like a stripper?
No.
You're not a stripper?
I'm not.
Really?
I thought you worked at the Rhino.
No.
No.
Oh, I must have gotten you confused with...
I feel like there's a difference between strippers and dancers anyway.
Well...
Well, I feel like that's like her business.
Yeah.
You know.
If you want to, like, if she's a dancer, dancers don't take a dance.
So, okay, so then what kind of dance do you do?
I go-go dance at a nightclub.
Oh, go-go dancer.
Oh, okay.
I don't know if you want to, we don't have to say it, but we're familiar.
There's one in town where, anyways, very cool.
Okay, go-go dancer.
Rock and roll.
I'm Anna.
Sorry, I don't really know where to look, but I'm Anna.
I'm a poli-sci major.
Look dead into the camera right here.
I'm Ana.
I'm a poly psi major.
You know, that camera right there.
Oh, stare deeply.
I'm a poli sci major, and I'm happy to be here.
Age?
Oh, I'm 19.
At UCSB?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm Danny.
Hi, guys.
I'm 28, and I'm an artist.
Oh, God damn it.
I'm going to stand out so much.
Hi, I'm Breezy.
I'm 34, and I'm a freelance graphic designer, and a musician.
So many other things.
Yeah, but self-bait entrepreneur.
But mostly that.
That's good.
You two have a podcast together, is that correct?
Yeah, we do, yeah.
But it's just starting.
It's called On the Spectrum Podcast.
On the Spectrum.
You gotta be up in there, Danny.
Right up in there.
Like at the tip.
What do you guys talk about?
Everything.
I mean, we go back and forth.
We're so different in the way we, you know.
It's a lot of entertainment, comedic banter between the two of us.
I don't have my notes in front of me.
And then we get to segments where each of us has sort of prepared something, but the other doesn't know what that's going to be.
And so reactions and the blooming comedy of the moment sort of gets to be a big feature of it.
And then we have what's hopefully regulars of our friends who bring in that same kind of dynamic with whatever their like prepared section is.
And their prepared section doesn't have to be comedic in nature.
It's sort of like the reaction that we can explain the title.
I'm on the spectrum, and I'm just adult dealing with it.
Okay, wait, wait.
She has the after.
Okay, that's.
She has the what?
I mean, she has like the justification for it, but that's not where it started.
We were like, we need to make this podcast.
What's a title going to be?
And I was like, I don't know.
And then Rick James's like super freak came on and it got to that line of like, she's a very special girl.
The kind of don't take over a mother.
And we were like, I was like, that's it.
Like, special girl podcast.
And Danny looks at me and she goes, like, on the spectrum.
And I was like, no, that, that's the name on the spectrum.
So that's how it happened.
Like, her reaction to my shitty name was the better name for the podcast.
That was a very meandering.
It's almost like you were there.
Yeah, pretty much.
Pretty much.
I can do stand-up, so that's why we're just like, okay, so, and I'm just nervous as Becca's like doing anything.
So I was figuring we could just do a podcast so I can be funny on it.
She's an anxious person, so life is hard.
Anxious is weird.
Just being on the spectrum is weird.
so you're autistic is what you're saying well that's what it means aren't we all like honestly like it's like everyone being a little gay What?
There's a lot of spectrums, Brian.
Brian, Brian, there's a lot of spectrums.
I mean, even if you're not gay, there's like a spectrum.
Well, I think you have a celebrity crack betwixt these things.
Okay, but I think generally speaking, when you use the term spectrum, I think most people are thinking about people who are on the street.
That's definitely where we started, Brian.
And we did ask a mother of a friend of an autistic child if she was okay, and she said that she was okay with it, so we figured it was a singer.
Full sale from there.
Yeah, can you tell?
It's that or 10 packs a day.
Yeah, I was wondering if it was the singing or the cigarette smoke.
That's so funny.
I swear to God, I was like five and I sounded like this.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
It starts young, guys.
Yes, Kiki.
No.
Okay, moving on.
Go ahead.
Definitely not as cool as you guys, but.
Don't say that.
Yeah, hi.
Probably.
I'm Athena.
I'm 19.
And I am a sociology major at UCSB.
Hi, I'm Vanessa.
I'm 18, and I'm a poli-sci major at UCSB as well.
My name is Jubilee.
I'm 19, and I have my own business.
Yeah.
Oh, you do the is it the nails?
Show the nails.
They're so grown out right now.
I have to call you.
I'm like.
Me too.
I have to get my nails done, but I'm so.
You know where to go.
I do.
Okay, we will set that up.
So moving on, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
Show them some love, guys.
Give them a follow.
So we're going to go around the table once more.
Relationship status, longest relationship.
And are you on any dating apps?
And that includes seeking arrangements.
Go ahead.
I am in a relationship, happily.
I've never, actually, that's not true.
I have been on a dating app before, but it was very short-lived.
Don't really care for them.
What dating app were you on?
Tinder.
Tinder.
And seeking arrangements?
Never been, but I think it's a great app.
Yeah.
Okay.
And longest relationship?
Is it your current one?
Four years?
No, it's not my current one.
But your longest was four years.
Okay.
A little closer to the microphone.
Sorry, I'm not currently using any dating apps, but I have used Tinder and I have used Hinge before.
But I don't know.
It's just not my thing for real.
But my longest relationship would have had to have been about nearly a year.
And currently I'm not in a relationship.
Seeking arrangements?
No.
Any sugar daddy situations?
Not currently, no.
Okay.
I am in a relationship.
And my longest relationship was about five years.
That's not the one I'm in now.
Thank God.
I feel like the breakup was longer than the actual relationship, you know?
Anyway.
Any dating apps?
Yeah, actually.
The guy I'm with right now, we met on Bumble, which is a really funny story, because like I was just bored.
I think I was looking for someone to murder.
I think he was too.
So we ended up falling in love on accident.
He's weird.
Yeah.
That's hot.
I say that's hot.
It was so intense.
Like this first meeting, he sounds like Dracula too.
That's hot.
He's from Russia.
He's from Russia.
He's like an immigrant from Russia.
And so the way he talks, I'm just like, you can kill me.
And I'd be okay with it.
And I think he feels the same.
Super tight and seeking arrangements.
Actually, I had a girl, like she was one of my really good friends.
She like ripped a bunch of my photos from my laptop and my phone and used some like spicy photos.
No, nothing with my face or like whatever, but yeah, a friend of mine found like a profile because he was on it, unfortunately.
So, but my tattoos are very noticeable.
So, he was like, What the fuck?
And I was like, What the fuck?
So, oh shit, someone tried to seek arrangements with your body.
It was really weird.
And I was like, Why?
Like, it's fucking weird.
Okay, I'm the black sheep here, married and not seeking arrangements.
I haven't ever been on a dating app, and that's mostly because, like, this, you know, everyone forgets, but like, smartphones are not that fucking old.
So, um, I've been in my current relationship for fucking on and off again, 13 years.
Wow.
And when you go back in history, you're like, When did the iPhone come out?
Bitch, I'm old.
So, it's like, yeah, I haven't been on those apps.
But during this off-again periods, I was just like, I'm going to what I know.
And I went to the bar, like a normal sad girl.
So, you said, How long have you got?
Was it 13 years?
You've been married or with your partner?
Oh, God, not married.
We've been, we've been even I'm like, we've been married only five.
Yeah, we've been married five years.
We've been together 13.
But I will say this: we just had our fifth year anniversary, and 15-year-old me would have been fucking proud because we went to a guttermouth show, and I did get COVID for my first time.
So it was a spicy occasion.
What was that?
That was recently?
That was like fucking three and a half weeks ago.
She tests, we're good.
Okay.
No, I'm very boosted now because I had three shots and then I was like, I'm going to get boosted again.
And then I fucking just caught COVID.
So, and now we're over COVID.
So, okay, so you said 13, dude.
Yeah.
But it was on again off.
I like to say it because it makes me feel really fucking old, especially because that's like half the age of half the panel.
34?
Yeah, I'm 34.
That's fine.
Right.
So it's kind of like he stole me in my youth, but not like in a bad way.
I love you, sweet.
How old were you when you met him?
I was like not quite 21, dude.
And how old is he?
He's five years my elder, yeah.
I mean, that's not a huge no.
So right now I'm 34 and he just he's in his final year of his 30s right now.
Rest in peace.
Rip.
I did buy some sparklers for this birthday occasion.
I was like, not to be a number gal, but like, it's the last time you're going to see these ones.
It's all downhill at Florida.
Okay.
Yo, he's like, he's a candidate.
He's Swedish, though.
I went foreign.
Do you guys have children?
I have to be handsome.
We have.
That's a good point.
Thank you.
We have a near four-year-old together.
She's a Sag, so her birthday's coming up at the end of November.
Sagittarius.
Sagittarius.
Sorry.
The ladies were talking before we all talked at the end.
What?
About our science.
Eric, can you boost it to 80?
It's just a bit low.
Thank you, man.
Yeah.
Okay, we'll talk about check in with that later.
Astrology.
We'll talk about astrology later.
No, the child though, too.
That's good.
So, but at one point in your relationship, it was on again, off again.
Well, yeah, like the beginning part for the first two years, we were like living in two different cities because he was finishing grad school and shit here.
And I was like, well, I'm done with school now.
And fuck who wants to like move to be with someone in grad school.
That sounds fucking terrible.
So I waited to see where he was going to land after school.
And he stayed here like a fucking cat on its feet.
He landed.
You were abusing the table, but you're very.
You're a drummer, too, right?
In addition to your daughter.
I've been known.
So wait, is it a monogamous relationship?
Or is it open relationship?
Yes, it's monogamous.
We made definitions not super long ago because there was a thing that happened that was unexpected.
I won't get deep into it, but basically.
You can ask you later.
I did.
Ask you later.
You can plot synopsis.
You can ask me later.
I discovered a thing.
And then anyway.
It made me go into boundaries talk.
So yeah, we're pretty close.
We'll talk about the thing later.
We'll talk about the thing later.
Okay, moving on.
Go ahead.
I am not currently in a relationship, and I'm not really currently looking for anyone right now, but...
Are you sure?
Yes.
You have like numbers in your phone not saved.
Moving on.
I had a thing for, I would say, I don't even know, four months, but that ended.
And so now I'm here.
And the four-month thing, that was your longest relationship?
Yeah.
Well, I just got like out of like a relationship recently.
My most like long-term relationship was two years, but I'm not really looking for anything right now.
But hey, if I find someone, it happens, you know?
So you too, are you on dating apps?
No, I don't know.
I just feel like when you meet the person, like I just want that first impression, not like texting and stuff.
I don't know.
I'm kind of like old-fashioned in that way too.
Yeah.
Okay, but never been on dating apps.
No.
Okay.
I'm currently single.
I'm on Bumble, band off Tinder and Hinge.
Why?
I don't know.
Wish I could tell you.
My longest relationship was my most current one, like a little over a year.
Just ended recently.
Okay.
Seeking arrangements?
Dating apps?
No.
Oh, I got an offer to be a sugar baby this morning.
Ooh.
I didn't ask you.
What was the offer?
Oh, he just said, hey, do you want to be in a sugar daddy sugar baby relationship?
And I said, no.
Did you say no?
I said, I'm not sure.
Okay.
You're like, not right now.
I'm doing good.
Okay, so a couple of you said you were single.
Here, here, and then you two.
So you three here, and then you.
So what does that mean?
That you're single?
Like, do you, you got a sneaky link?
Come on.
Of course.
No.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not in, like, I mean, yeah, sneaky links always.
Not always, maybe not always, but if I want.
But not in, like, a committed, like, going on dates type of relationship.
And you two over here?
Okay, see, for me, this is going to sound very controversial, but I'm not, like, I'm not like, like, I'm not, like, I don't want to have sex with somebody unless there's like feelings involved.
And, like, for me, that takes time.
I'm sorry.
I mean, I don't think that's controversial at all.
I feel like, especially, like, being in college, everybody just like wants to do all these casual things.
Yeah.
I'm kind of like, kind of gross.
Like, I wouldn't even share my drink with these people.
Like, you know.
It's totally cool.
Yeah.
That's true.
Or like, yeah, especially the first day you meet them, you don't want to go into bed with them.
Like, I want to go on an actual date.
Like, that sounds fun.
I start.
Like, they'll be like, what's your major?
And then be like, do you guys want to fuck?
Yeah.
Wait.
I have to ask, they don't even give you like a, do you want to be study partners?
No, they just go like right into it.
Wow.
I wonder if those are the kinds of times.
I have to say, men tried a little bit harder in my day.
They have like the one mile radius.
They don't even give a fuck.
They're just like one mile, yes or no, swipe.
Yeah.
They just don't want to waste their time.
And honestly, I respect that.
Like, you're not wasting my time.
I'm not wasting your time.
I've wasted a lot of time.
Personally.
So you want to go on dates?
Yeah.
I mean, a good one.
Aww.
What's a good date?
I don't know.
It's just what time of day.
Into the mic.
Into the mic.
A date.
A good date.
I don't know.
Something on the beach.
I mean, we live.
I mean, I live on the beach now.
I mean, a movie, something nice.
I mean, I'm not too picky, as long as it's not like enough.
That's on like a car.
Back of a car show.
Back of a car seat or something.
That's like one of the most romantic things.
It could be, but it also couldn't.
We have mountains right here, too.
I mean, that's true.
Back of the car seat.
Oh, we used to have a drive-in.
We don't have a drive-in here anymore.
I know, I know.
But that would be so.
Like, that's like old things.
What about you?
Yeah, like, for me, my thing is, like, once I have a crush on someone, like, I'm loyal to them.
Like, like, just to that version of them in my head, like, I don't know.
Like, I just can't.
Like, I think having sex is like fine and it's okay.
Like, I can't knock that because I can't say I haven't tried it.
But, like, as of now, like, being in college, like, I'm just like kind of over the whole like hookup culture thing.
Like, like they said, like, it just, I don't know.
Like, I have better things to focus on.
Like, I have fucking homework I could be doing.
Like, I'm not really trying to mess around with someone.
Okay, good answer.
So, you said that in response to what she was saying, how oh, yeah, just a reminder, guys, if you can silence your cell phones.
All right.
So, you were saying that back in your day.
Oh my god, it feels so like, yeah, it's not like that long ago.
Like, we're like, okay, I was at UCLA 2006 to 2010.
Boom.
Era.
2006 to 2000.
2006 to 2010, which also for everyone here, I'm pretty sure 2006 is when the iPhone came out, but you guys can Google that.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's kind of like, so you were in university kind of before it was widely adopted.
Smartphones were widely adopted.
Yeah, for example, my freshman year there.
UCLA?
Yeah.
People were hooking up for sure.
Yeah, and like Facebook, for all of you guys, I know everyone's past it, but it used to, like, when fucking face plays first became a thing, was only college kids.
So right when I get to college, that's when they're like, oh, fuck it, everyone.
And I was like, god damn it.
Like, I finally made it.
And now you just don't care.
And grandma can be here.
So yeah, that's that era, dude.
But yeah, back then, at least guys would like meet you, probably think you're hot and just want to fuck you, but they would at least like try and be like, oh, you're so smart.
You're so super.
You're definitely going to get a better grade than me in this course.
Please, can you be studying partners?
So I guess what's your position that guys should be trying more?
I was totally fine with that.
I was like, well, they tried, you know, like, I'm clever.
I got where things are going.
I was like, what's the assessment?
Yes, no.
Do I want to be your partner in study?
I was like, probably not.
Or probably, you know, you picked before.
You kind of knew it was code.
Sure.
We'll go around the table on this one.
Do you guys think that, actually, before we do that, there's been a couple requests in the chat.
People want to see your split tongue.
Oh, shit.
That camera, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's wild.
Oh my god, it's trained.
It's trained, yeah.
That's amazing.
We should have had that.
I should have remembered to do that during the intros.
But anyways.
Did that hurt, by the way?
Yeah, I think it was very painful.
So does that impact how you can eat food or?
It kind of did at first because it takes a while to get used to.
Yeah.
But you've adapted.
In what way?
Did you like spill soup?
Like when you drink liquids, it goes in between your tongue to the bottom of your mouth instead, which is definitely like when it's hot or cold, it's a little bit different.
Do you have any other body mod stuff?
I mean, the ears look just like little colors.
These ones are fake.
I wish I could have ear mods for sure.
I'm definitely planning on more mods in the future, but other ones.
Just the tongue, though?
I mean, I know you have some piercings, but just the tongue?
Okay.
Interesting.
Huh, cool.
Dude, the great blowjob.
Never questions are.
I'm going to see him hurt.
I figured someone was going to ask a bunch of.
When's the last time you gave a blowjob?
This morning.
Oh, my God.
I'm fine.
Like, I'm good.
No, you're good.
I'm proud of you too.
Hell yeah.
She's in a relationship.
Same thing.
In him.
Or them.
Yeah.
For sure.
Okay, very cool.
Very cool.
So, okay, the question is: do you think, I know some of you are in relationships, but more broadly, generally speaking, do you think that guys are not doing enough or trying hard enough?
Kind of in line with her comment.
So you're asking if I think guys now are trying hard enough to like they're not wanting to take girls on dates, they just kind of want to hook up, they want to get right.
I think it completely depends on the guy.
I mean, we also live in a college town where I feel like hookups are more common because no one's ready to be in a serious relationship.
But I definitely think it depends on the person.
There's a huge variety of guys who only want to date still and then guys who don't want a girlfriend.
Okay.
It's kind of a long answer and I feel bad because like, of course, like this is something like I kind of think about, but like, of course, like guys don't try hard enough.
Like, I feel like everyone just kind of wants instant gratification really quickly.
And like most of the time, guys kind of, there's just no like chase anymore.
Like, you know, like there's no like, oh, we were friends and then we like start dating.
It's just like guys want to have sex and they want it fast.
And I feel like a lot of girls, like, it's not that like, oh, they're putting out.
It's like a lot of girls, they just want to be loved or to not feel alone, especially in college where it's like they're willing to do that.
And on both sides, I feel like it's just like, I don't know, it's just the value of it is very low, I think, on both ends.
But like, yeah, guys, I feel like they're not working for it these days because on both ends of the relationship, we're just like working too fast to get something that like we need to wait for, I guess.
Sorry.
That was good.
My heart is beating right now.
I'm a chaser, so I actually the guy I'm with right now, when we first met up, just on like a bumble date, like I thought I was going nowhere.
I just thought he was really hot, like fucking so hot.
Anyway, I tried to do the whole like, no, don't fuck me, like, don't, please.
What made him stand out?
His.
I really tried to.
Sorry, guys.
Like, no, I really tried to, like, no, but he was like, we were kissing, we were smoking.
He made me tea.
Like, no, it was really.
I mean, he's like, we've been, like, he's my boyfriend right now, and I'm still, like, flirting with him.
I saw the crush on this guy.
We fucked on the first date.
We fucked on the first date.
Early did he make you tea?
Huh?
How early did he make you tea?
That's true.
Okay, let's just get back to the question.
So, I think it's sexual chemistry, and like, equally, like, you guys both gotta try.
Like, first, like, give it all because this is a fast life that we're living in now, you know?
Like, if you like it, you fucking like it.
We're attracted.
I think for me personally, like, I'm so attracted to him that, like, that's that kind of like was the thing for me.
That I'm so attracted to this person that, like, I could call this daddy shark every day.
Like, this is who I want to be with.
I, he's the, I'm telling you, like, I still have my breath taken away, and I'm still chasing that.
Like, I'm always gonna flirt with him.
Like, my parents used to flirt all the time.
Moving on.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Sorry, I'm in love.
I mean, I guess I brought up the point.
Are you still talking about do no one does no one try hard enough these days?
Yeah.
Well, well, I guess it's funny because, like, as much as it's like, I'm not trying to find anything.
My husband and I like tag team as far as who's able to go out and who watches our toddler.
So I'm out on my own a lot, if that makes sense.
So then there's just the opportunity to still get hit on like normal, even though I'm not necessarily asking for it.
But I don't know.
I don't know that that feels any different than it ever did.
Except I'm like, oh my God, I've had a baby and I'm still cute.
Thank God.
Because I think that's a real thing.
But if you want to ask about that, that's a whole different question.
Okay, so going over here to you.
So her initial thing was kind of almost in response to what you said about wanting to go on dates.
But so you said you want to go on dates.
Do you get the sense that guys just aren't wanting to put in as much effort as you believe they should?
I mean, I guess it depends on the guy, but I think Anna put it like she said it perfectly.
I mean, a lot of guys today, I feel like, especially at UCSB, I think they really search for instant gratification, whether that be, you know, sex or a hookup or whatever.
But I think the like chasing a girl in a sense of you know being friends first or something like that, you don't see that very often.
I think that's more back in like the olden days.
Back in the back olden, olden days.
It's like, it's something that's like really sweet.
I think it's lost.
It's becoming more and more lost as Gen Z.
Okay, your guys' answers.
I don't know.
Actually, I feel like I wouldn't generalize.
Like, I've had met really cool guys who've been serious and stuff.
I've met guys who wanted hookups.
Like, honestly, as long as you're straightforward about your intentions, like I don't mind.
I had a personal experience.
There's this guy who been off Bumble or no, Hinge before I got banned.
And his thing was saying that he wants to be in a relationship.
And I was like, okay, cool.
It's not just a hookup.
So I was like, okay, match with him.
And we were texting on Snapchat until I met him two days ago.
And I wanted to go out and do something and not be at home because that gives opportunities to do stuff when I didn't really want to.
But then it got later in the night, and he's like, can I just come over?
I was like, okay, I guess so.
Wasn't planning on doing anything with him because I was like, I'm not going to.
He said he wants to be in a relationship.
I said, take me on a date first.
And then we ended up doing some stuff.
But then I said, take me out.
And he said he would.
And that was yesterday.
And he never did.
So.
Call her, motherfucker.
He went out with his friends instead.
Alsted.
Sometimes you got to give him that weechy space.
Yeah, so I just kind of haven't texted him.
Come back.
So.
I guess he said he wanted a relationship, but then he wanted a relationship, just not with you.
Oh, yeah, probably.
He met me and said, fuck that, never mind.
Oh, we got Rolo Tomasi in the chat, the rational male.
Good to see you, man.
Let's get you on the show.
By the way, Jedediah Beela or something, they DM'd me about coming on the podcast.
I wanted to ask you about that because I know you were on there.
Anyways, very interesting.
We'll get, I don't know if I want to get, we'll maybe come back to the whole men aren't putting in as much effort, I guess we could say, and why that is.
I forgot to go around on this last one here.
So going around the panel one more time, do you identify as a feminist?
And just to be clear, you can believe in equality and women's rights without being a feminist.
Really quick, go ahead.
I definitely agree with equality for women, but I don't identify as a feminist.
No.
I don't identify with feminism because I feel like it doesn't include women of color and trans women, but I do identify with the principles of feminism.
Are you snapping?
Are you doing a snap?
Yeah, I know.
We all.
All right, Eric, end the show.
The show's over.
Wait, what do you think a feminist is?
I know.
Like, how would you define feminism then?
Please.
What's the question?
I'd love to hear it.
What are you?
You're next.
Well, I mean, I've actually never heard that, that feminism doesn't really address the equality.
I don't want to go into it on your show, but that's just my personal.
I feel like a lot of the times it's just white feminism and it doesn't include black women and trans women.
That's where it started because it started at the same time as.
So that's why I wouldn't say I'm a feminist personally.
Oh, the chat's going crazy.
But like, I don't know.
Like, that's just me looking at the movement from my perspective as a queer woman of color.
Mind you.
Okay.
I'll give my answer after I let everyone go ahead.
I'm not a feminist.
No.
Okay.
Oh, it's a weird question.
It's just a weird question in general.
Because also it's like people don't come up to me and ask me other things that are as hardline as that question.
So I don't really have a response other than be like, I just feel like it's a weird question.
And that I also believe in equality for women.
So maybe that's where it started.
But there's a lot of cloudy, weird energy around it that makes it a hard question to ask, dude.
There's a lot of what?
Like cloudy, weird energy around it that makes it a harder question.
Around feminism?
Yeah.
If you listen to our podcast, we'll talk about it.
I was just thinking, it's like, there's a historical context.
There's a lot of stereotypes.
There's a lot of, like, just where it came out from and exactly what was said over here is super true, too.
So I don't know.
There's a lot to think about and just be like, it's complicated, man.
But yeah, equality for women.
Like, why don't they let me say fucking dude on Instagram as a pronoun?
Tell me that.
I've been using that since before fucking pronouns was pronouns.
Dude.
Dude.
So you want dude to be a pronoun?
Yes.
Why not?
Proper.
Proper pronouns.
Yeah, dude.
It's barrier proof.
Now you're just getting a bit fucking.
It should just be dudism.
It's just peopleism.
All right, moving on.
How do you identify as a feminist?
I do believe in like equality for like all women.
And I mean like, yeah, all women.
But I mean, I wouldn't personally define as a feminist.
It's pretty, it's a broad statement.
I don't know.
I just.
Equality for women.
That's it.
Okay.
Well, like, okay.
See, I identify as a feminist in like the original purpose, which was like equality, but like the modern, it just has like a bad connotation now where it's like, like women are better than men and stuff like that.
I just believe in equality.
So I don't know if I can.
Wait, hold on, hold on, wait.
Women are better than men.
No, I said that somehow.
How do you reconcile that with believing in equality?
Some people have mixed up the term feminism with like believing that they're over men.
I do not identify with that.
I just want to clear that up.
So that's why I wouldn't say I'm a feminist 100% because of the connotation it has nowadays.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jubilee.
I'm going to agree with Athena.
Yeah.
Well, oh, that I believe in like women are equal, but I guess I don't think I would say I'm a feminist.
Okay.
So I think overwhelmingly here on the panel, there's some slightly different responses, but you're all for equality between the sexes.
Okay, rock and all.
Because everyone should.
So my follow-up question was going to be, but since none of you really claim to be, I was going to say, is it a deal breaker if a guy is not a feminist?
Yeah.
No.
Well, because if we say that.
Most of you said you're not.
So it's like.
If he's fucking rude to women, yeah.
That's when he criticizes women, like, oh my God, her dress.
Or like, why is she wearing that?
Or she looks, if she just, if he has, he, he, she, whatever.
If this person is rude towards anybody, just like talking shit about them, then that's just bad.
If they don't believe that women are equal.
Like, when it becomes demeaning, that's what I'm saying.
Exactly.
It depends why or why they aren't a feminist, like why that man would say.
Like, if they say they aren't a feminist for the same reason I am, like, cool.
But if they say like they aren't a feminist because like women need to do this or that according to male, like the male like perspective, then like, fuck no.
It just depends on their reasoning context.
Well, I can give you my perspective on that.
So I consider myself an egalitarian.
I do not consider myself a feminist.
And like a few of you said, feminism has a various sort of different senses of what that means.
My sense of it, I guess in the most generous sense I can attach to feminism, is feminism is a woman's advocacy movement.
I don't believe it's an equality movement.
I believe it's for women's advocacy.
And the reason I think that is in a situation where women would not stand to benefit from equality, feminists will not fight for said equality.
So if that equality comes at the detriment of women, for example, the selective service, the draft, feminists aren't fighting to have women drafted.
With the military motherfucker.
Oh, God.
Wait, so do you not advocate for women?
Are you gay or something?
Are you gay?
Is that why you don't advocate for women?
Oh my god.
Because wait, so what's so you're saying that feminism is wrong because they advocate for women instead of advocating for equality?
I'm not like trying to like be rude.
I'm just like wondering if that's what you were saying.
Well, the idea that feminism is an equality movement is an erroneous one.
It's a women's advocacy.
Wait, you mentioned the draft.
Can you continue on that really quick?
Like what you thought about equality in the draft?
Just really quickly in the draft.
Here's an example.
No one.
Nobody.
Let me answer.
If equality comes at the detriment to women.
Are you trying to fight in the draft?
Wait, he's not done yet.
If equality comes at the detriment of women, it's not something that feminists are going to fight for.
For example, there's a push to equalize, what's it called?
In the case of like a divorce custody, there's a push that there should be an assumption of equal custody between both parents.
But currently, the way the court system is set up, typically it defers mostly to women getting.
That's actually not true.
It's very true.
I think so.
It's very true.
Money talks.
Yeah, like money, money.
So it typically defers to women having primary custody.
I don't know the exact term that I've been talking about.
They burst the motherfuckers.
In Florida recently, in Florida recently, they were trying to pass a bill where it would be 50-50, equal custody.
And feminist organizations fought against that.
So it would technically come at the detriment of women for there to be 50-50.
Wait, why?
Because you don't get like an alimony check or a child support check or something.
What's the switch?
I just meant the thinking just there is just that because you lose out on a check.
What's the detriment to the woman part if they have to split custody?
I actually asked more because like I'm not.
Do you have any kids, Brian?
I don't, but there's a lot of people.
Let me answer.
Yes, and then, yeah.
So the reason that could be viewed as coming to the detriment of women is there's often custody battles.
And most of the time in custody battles, people want more control over their children.
So if women have, if it's sort of definitely a child support check, right?
Like, what's the, or you mean because they really want their kid or because they want like some power over their ex and the money from them?
Well, I'm just providing one specific example where feminists don't fight for equality.
Why wouldn't feminists want like men and women like to have like an equal chance of like having custody of their detrimental?
Okay, I want to speak to this only from the fucking standpoint of like I'm the only one sitting here that actually has a kid and like I'm the only one sitting here that actually knows what that fucking takes.
Okay.
And I would say that it is insane as a thought to me that like I might not have the ability to have a partner be involved.
Like I never would be sitting here with a kid in my life if I didn't think that I had that partner being able to be involved in some way.
So that's just to say whether we were together or not.
So if I were to like do a break custodially, fuck yeah, brother.
Like they better be taking half this fucking time of this child.
And let me say why.
Because me, like you, enjoys to be a fucking human.
Like I don't know.
I know I have friends of mine who I only met in their divorced years and they like could meet me as a single person before kids because they were fucking a divorcee that split custody.
I don't know anyone in their right mind that wouldn't fucking ask for a split on custodial fucking purposes.
Because sheer God, I am not good at taking care of my fucking self.
So let alone my cats, my dog, and my child.
I mean, fuck man.
Who doesn't want to break?
Like, I don't know.
I don't get that at all.
I think that's a fucking, like, show me the fucking fact that shows that somehow women would benefit from not having the motherfucker take the kids.
I feel like your question sucked.
I don't get it.
I don't get that example.
How does the woman benefit from the child?
She's benefiting.
Watching the fucking child all the time.
I think the child should benefit.
The only reason I'm hearing now is because I had to call my sister in, though.
Let's move on.
I mean, God.
Well, I mean, I'm going to address, I'm the host, so I'm going to address her thing.
Okay, okay, okay.
I just, I mean, but I guess, like, that's just where I go with it.
It's like, from a personal perspective.
Like, try to keep it respectful, guys.
I can't imagine not having someone be able to split that time or like have partial responses.
Now you're reiterating yourself.
Right.
I'm saying, where's the point come in that it's a benefit from the woman's perspective?
You don't think people.
You're trapped at that fucking ball and chain 24-7, 360.
Do you want me to answer?
Because you're just having a monologue now.
Yeah, because I don't want to fucking hear you say that you know what the fuck it's like because you don't, bro.
I can show you the scar.
Like, fucking being a mom's.
What are you?
I'm not talking about pregnancy.
I don't know what you're talking about.
You want to talk about feminism at the time?
You don't think that there's men and women that are fighting to have custody of their children?
I want the men to have custody of the children.
But okay, the point I'm making.
Okay.
There would not be family attorneys, family law attorneys.
There's, of course, there are disputes when it comes to custody.
So I.
But what's the, you said specifically that there would be a benefit that feminists would like want to have happen and feminism and somehow this like shit fucking segued into this and it was all about custodial shit.
And I was just saying, who the fuck wants that?
I don't know what's going on in the world.
It's a system and the laws are currently set up to award women disproportionately custody of their children.
Men have to fight to get 50-50.
The law in Florida was to just have that be de facto immediately.
If there's any sort of custody to disputes, it's 50-50 and then they go to court.
But typically how it plays out is the mother, she's just going to get a higher percentage of custody or just full custody.
How does that help her?
You're saying they want to keep it the way it is.
I understand the way it is.
Did you say that they want to keep it that way or are you saying that they want to change it?
In the history of custody disputes, you don't think that there's been any party in a custody dispute that hasn't wanted full custody?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it sucks, but I just feel like that's a really topsy-turvy subject.
And I've never been in a custody battle, so I don't really know.
I mean, I've had friends who benefited from living with their father, and I have, you know, unbiased personally.
I was just giving an example to her of why I think that feminism is a woman's advocacy movement.
There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy, but I don't think we should say feminism is an equality movement when it clearly isn't.
It's probably not, yeah.
Go ahead.
You wanted to come in.
Go ahead.
My mom's friend doesn't have custody of his kids and the mom sucks.
So there's definitely times where the dad is a lot better, whatever their situation is, but the mom still gets custody and they still have to fight so hard to get the custody of their kids, which is wrong.
Like, I think whatever situation is better, that either...
Deserving parents.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's not even fighting.
Honestly, sometimes it's just about showing up.
Like some parents just don't even do that.
Yeah, I don't know.
The situation that I think is a whole, I don't know.
The situation I personally have experienced that the dad is just way better and fought, like probably still fighting for it.
And the mom just feel like your child will choose.
The court system sucks, dude.
And bureaucracy is balls.
Like, that's all you need to know.
Like, the whole thing is not great.
Like, yeah, it's terrible.
Fuck feminism and fuck all the fucking shit that we just talked about.
Okay, we're gonna move on.
We're gonna move.
We're moving on.
We're moving on.
Richard Joy, we're gonna do some soup chips.
Nobody cares.
Okay, Richard Joy, moving on.
Thank you for the, we're gonna do some soup chats here.
I'm saying.
Thank you for the Canadian $10 soup chat, man.
Question for the ladies' first aid idea, trail ride on the horses.
What do you think?
You're asking this.
I think you asked this before, right?
Oh, she is here.
Okay, okay.
So yeah, girls, if you guys want to answer this super chat.
Contrary to how I look, I actually grew up on a ranch.
I'm a horse girl.
And I think that is so romantic and fun.
I think that's a great first day idea.
Especially if the girl's a little nervous.
You can kind of show her the ropes.
I think that's super cute.
Or maybe she'll kick your ass.
Maybe she's really good at it.
You don't know.
I think it's a great idea.
I would love it.
If someone was so out of the box, it was like, I'm taking you to ride horse.
I'd be like, fuck yeah.
I might fall off, but like, that's like the fun part.
I don't know.
I personally think that's a great idea.
I've never had anyone say that.
I don't love horses.
Oh, yeah.
It's fun.
I don't love horses, but like, it's the thought that counts.
Like, that's really sweet.
Yeah, I agree on that.
I mean, it's unique.
Yeah.
Like, just like the thought, just like, I would appreciate that more.
What about you, Athena?
I mean... That sounds like your, like, Prince Charming date.
You're like, that's trying.
That's for sure.
Trying.
I mean, it's sweet.
I would, I would.
Cavi'all.
I would do it.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
It's unique.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Weird, but cute.
The only thing that comes into my mind is like one of my best friends, freshman year, her college roommate, being a horse person, being like, yeah.
And then did you know that like riding a horse was the first time that I found my clitoris.
And I came and I was like, what's that feeling?
And then I kept on riding horses.
So when the guy says, first time, trail ride on horses, I'm like, he just wants to see your oh face, baby.
But that's just me and my sourpus fucking soul, so don't worry about me.
Did everybody get to answer that question?
Yes.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Richard Joy, thank you for the super chat, man.
Much appreciated.
Lukewarm.
$10 Super Chat.
Assuming a normal Gaussian distribution, have the girls rate themselves at what percentile of physical attractiveness they are in.
Is that your one to Tazian?
Man, you made that shit there.
It's complicated as fuck, dude.
If you an artist.
But hey, Lukewarm, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Wow.
The percentile.
So he's talking about a Photoshop thing?
Gaussian filter?
I'm going to.
Like on the perfect face thing.
So I'll have our good friend Stiffler come in to help us with this one.
Stiffler asks, ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.
So much easier.
This is looks.
Go ahead.
Based on looks, I'm definitely a nine.
Solid nine.
Solid nine.
Okay.
I think eight and a half on a good day, for sure.
I have no number for that.
I'm like the worst critic on myself.
I can't.
Okay.
I don't know.
You want to just throw something out there?
No.
Okay.
I'm like color of the day.
It's another one of those questions.
It's like, who sits there and like looks in the mirror and they're like, today I'm feeling like a, but that's how I go.
Like most days I feel like a fucking like four, maybe at five.
I'm like, fuck everything.
Like, eh.
And then there's those days where you're like, shit's on, bitch.
I feel so good.
And then I'm like, yeah, eight, nine, what's up?
We're here.
So it depends on the day.
Okay.
Yeah.
Kiki.
She's insecure.
Kiki?
She's a 10.
She's a 10.
No.
I don't know.
She's 2.
Over here.
Yeah, I kind of agree with you.
Like, putting in like my words, it depends on the day, but I mean, right now, I'm at like a 7.
Okay.
I mean, like, beauty, like, I think, you know, they say like it's I'm like the beholder, whatever.
But personally, I don't try to rate myself because I am a Latina.
I'm obviously, I don't feel like the conventional, like, beauty stereotype.
So I try not to focus so much on it for my own mental health.
Word.
Do you have to?
Some other snaps no matter seven, maybe an eight on a ten.
Like a fucking 10.
Yeah.
Day on a good day, I'd say.
You're not even wearing makeup and you're gorgeous.
Stop.
I put lashes on.
That's like all of you guys.
Luke, thank you for the $10 super chat.
Much appreciated, man.
This guy, okay.
Richard Joy, let's keep the profanity to absolute nothing.
Okay, Richard.
Thank you for the Canadian $10, man.
Much appreciated.
They should call you Richard Joyless or Dick Joyless, since Richard and Dick are.
Oh, Richard, she's shooting some shots, man.
I grew up with two Grandpa Dicks.
I just gotta say, I thought everybody had a Grandpa Dick.
A what?
What?
Grams of Dick?
Grandpa Dick.
Oh, Grandpa Dick.
Richard Joy's Grandpa Dick.
I'm saying he might as well be.
Grandpa Dicks.
Like, legitimately.
I mean, I grew up with two Grandpa Dicks.
I thought everybody had at least one Grandpa Dick.
I was like, that was.
Oh, right.
Because I have two.
Because Richard.
Yeah, Richard.
What's with that?
It went from Rick to Dick real fast.
Anyway.
It's weird.
It is weird.
It's weird.
Times are changing.
Times are changing.
Okay.
So we have one other little chat here I saw.
On the topic of guns, I don't know.
Did you were doing finger guns?
I don't know.
These guns.
M1 Garand asks, would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
Go ahead.
Here, I'll keep it up.
Yes.
Okay.
Depends on why.
Self-protection.
Self-defense.
There's some weirdos.
I don't know.
Everything depends on context.
Some weirdos.
Some weirdos?
Yeah, there are guys who are.
I would like, there are certain guys where it's like, there are certain guys where, if, like, if he had a gun, it'd be like a complete red flag, and I'd be like, no.
There are other guys where it's like, oh, that's normal.
Depending on where they live, who they are, etc.
Well, like, how do you differentiate what would make a guy weird and then a guy, oh, that's normal?
I mean, especially if it's like some type of like assault rifle that you have in the military, like, I don't think any normal person, like, not to be controversial, but I don't think I don't think a normal person should have a machine gun, you know.
How about that?
You know, I don't think we should be able to bring men to Walmart, you know?
But like, if he lives in a dangerous city and he has a small gun to protect himself, like, you know, who am I to judge?
But like, as a woman, it does scare me, you know, being around a man with a gun.
Like, that just, why does that scare you?
Again, not to get too political.
But political.
As a black woman, like, our murders and our disappearances aren't investigated, aren't looked into as much as that of a white woman or that of a white man, especially, where it's just like, I don't know.
I'd hate for something to happen to me and me just go down as someone who was killed in a jealous rage by you at the hand of a man.
Like, that's just a horrible way to go.
Would you be in a better position if you were killed by a woman?
I mean, I'd prefer it to a dynamic.
Keep in mind, you're dead, right?
Live by the sword, die by the sword, baby.
I came out of a man, die by the hand of one.
I'd much rather die by the hand of a woman.
Fuck yeah.
But I'm just saying, like, something about a man with a gun, like, there's a reason why there are more male serial killers than women.
Like, there's obvious reasons why that would, you know, a man, and especially, like, with sexual assaults, a woman with a gun makes more sense to me than a man with a gun.
We're just, I know it's unlikely, but just the thought of anything happening to me is terrifying.
We're just like, anyone having a gun would put me on edge for sure.
It just depends on context.
So, I don't know if I want to ask this.
We'll continue on.
Go ahead.
I grew up around guns.
I know how to load a gun.
I know how to clean a gun.
I don't know how to take care of a gun.
So, but I've been like, there have been some weird accidents, you know, growing up.
Like, not my own accident.
Okay, but would you date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
If, yeah, legally, everything, everything checked out, be fine.
Have before would again.
Yeah.
I mean, like, my dad owns a gun.
And so, I mean, it'll have to depend on if the guy's in, like, sound mind or anything, or if it's legal.
But, yeah, I think I would.
Okay.
I mean, I wouldn't really care.
I mean, that's their business.
I have.
So, yes.
Basil didn't know.
I found it.
Okay.
Cool.
So I have a question here.
Sorry, your name's Anna Lisa, right?
It's Anna.
Anna.
Okay.
Anna Lisa.
Is that your full name?
Yeah.
Something like that.
Something like that?
Yeah, that's my first name.
Okay.
Anna.
Anna.
So I said, Anna?
Anna.
Anna.
Am I saying it right?
Anna.
Am I fucking the show?
Like Anna and Elsa.
Anna Banana, Anna, Banana.
I was curious because I saw on your Instagram, you said something.
Should we pull it?
No, we don't need to pull it up.
But you said, was it?
Fuck the police?
Yes.
Correct.
That is correct.
I did say fuck the police.
Very much.
Okay, so.
Ask you, baby.
That is what your Instagram says in the bio, correct?
And I'll say it again: fuck the police.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
The views expressed by the other panelists do not necessarily reflect those of the show or the host.
Okay, so would you.
Why is that controversial?
Would you date, kind of related to our last question, would you date a police officer?
No, fuck the pigs.
No.
Jesus.
Why the and I ask this out of curiosity: why the dislike for police?
Because the institution they support is inherently racist and profiles black and brown Americans, especially, throws them into jail, which is a continuation of the slave trade, essentially.
People are working in prisons for less than minimum wage, making pennies and dimes, and it's unfair.
And that's what you contribute to if you're a cop.
I'm just not for it.
Not for the killings or for the jailings.
So I guess my question to you is: I disagree with you on white boy.
That's a bit racist.
Oh my god.
No, you're one of those.
I mean, he is white.
How can you be racist against, and I'm also half-minded, so like, how can I be racist against you?
It's not like you ever have to experience any type of persecution because of your race.
You're not going to be profiled.
What if he said that?
It's hard to say.
But so you don't think that's a good thing.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You don't think you can be racist towards someone who's white?
No, I don't, because you've never experienced racism in history.
White people haven't experienced racism.
One of the experiences.
What's your definition of racism?
I'd say basically like the persecution in any type of way that leads to the downfall of just like someone's life.
Like it's always going to affect my life.
I can't take off my skin color.
As a black woman, like you asked me why he can't say that to me and I can tell you because my race will forever affect me.
A cop can see me and profile me in the stereotypes of a black woman that I'm fast, that I've been oversexualized all my life just for my skin color.
Like it's not unfair, but these prejudices, prejudices, I don't know how to say the plural of that word, but they do exist.
And those same prejudices that exist against me don't exist against you, Brian.
And that's why you can't be racist against a white person.
So I'm sorry if you feel offended, but you are white, and me calling you white boy isn't exactly racist.
I mean, it's a you are addressing me by my skin color.
It is a bit.
Your skin color will never lead to the, you know, what is it, premature murder of yourself.
Like, I don't know.
Like, no one's ever going to feel like, oh, this person's white, so they're a threat.
This person's white, so they're lesser.
I would actually point out one thing to you, because we were discussing police.
Me as a white man, I'm the only male at this table here.
There are more white men killed by police officers than women of any race combined.
I mean, then why aren't you mad?
Why don't you hate police too?
Because I realize that police are a necessary function of society.
Without police, it would be chaos.
Now, hold on, let me finish.
Let me finish.
It's a spectrum.
I think that there are some things that are wrong with the way policing is done, but certainly as a society, law enforcement is needed.
Do police fuck up?
Do police, is there police?
It's set up against the black people.
Hold on, let me finish.
Is there police brutality?
Absolutely.
Is there police misconduct?
Absolutely.
Should this be punished?
Absolutely.
But society, we need police officers.
I mean, I think that's really easy to say as you, once again, I'll reiterate, a white person.
And again, that's not to be racist.
But black women can want police officers.
Here's the thing.
Black people want police officers too.
I'm not saying that, but really quick.
I just think that police forget that they work for the people.
I think they forget that they're peace officers.
They're sworn in to protect the peace.
And that's about it.
I think they work for the people.
Yeah, supposedly there are good cops, there's bad cops.
And I fuck the police and fuck this question.
So.
It's controversial.
It's controversy.
And I.
But I think we need police officers.
I think, yeah, well, I think someone who's going to be in charge.
Like, hey, don't be doing that, you know?
If there's some, like, if someone in my family.
It's Thomas Payne, dude.
You're right.
It's part of the trade-off that you make.
You're going to be in a society of a lot of niceties for being in that.
And part of the things that you can't do is just anything under the livid sun, and that's where law enforcement gets.
Anyways, if this is too sensitive of a subject, we can certainly move on.
I would like to say something.
Sure.
Yeah.
Well, I have, like, my mom's mom, my grandma, is a police officer.
And I would always question, you know, like, why, as a, she's a black woman, like, why would she be caught?
But her and I had a discussion saying that I think that even though not all cops are in the right sometimes, I do think that all cops need more training, more education on like how to handle certain situations, especially.
Because there have been so many situations that I've just seen on social media that could have been avoided if they had more training.
And I do think that they're necessary, because if you don't have them, then you're just going to have chaos.
And we've seen it.
I mean, 2020, we've seen some chaos.
Justin Isla Vista alone.
Yeah, that's a good example.
Yeah, like they're there for a reason.
And I think they should be there for a reason.
They just need to be trained.
And you never stop learning.
Well, if I can just try to get at the heart of kind of what...
So do you not want police officers?
I just want to understand.
I'm not trying to be critical.
I just want to understand where you're coming from.
Basically, like, as to my understanding, again, as a black person in America, the institution that police officers work for, whether they know it or not, whether they themselves stand for it or not, what they're working for is constituting towards racism.
It's building towards America's existing case of racism, which, like, I feel like because police are like supposed to protect us, like, no one wants to say it.
And, like, because it's not obvious, like, no one wants to admit it.
Like, at the end of the day, that system itself has to be dismantled in order for, I don't know, society, you know, you say you're a, what was the word you use?
Egalitarian.
That's how you pronounce it.
Egalitarian.
Like, in order for society to be truly equal, we needed to, like, take apart these systems that are inherently racist, inherently unequal, that, you know, aid in the, I don't know how to say it, the lack of development within certain societies and like reestablish them.
And I think that includes the police force.
I think, like, as it exists now, the police force cannot go on, especially like if we wanted to actually benefit society.
So how do we do law enforcement without police?
I'm not a cop.
Okay, do you have family members?
Do you have a mom, a dad, brothers, sisters?
Sure.
Yes.
One of them gets murdered.
How does that get solved?
do you want justice because without police officers isn't gonna a hundred percent solve that Sure, they might not.
Why wouldn't the cop have prevented that murder?
That's a homicide.
Those are detectives.
Yeah.
We're not talking about the currents.
Detectives are detectives.
Detectives are law enforcement officers.
Yeah.
I think I said police.
They're more like upper people.
Homicide is a whole different ballgame.
They are cops.
There are police officers.
I think there's like a...
They graduate from cops to like detectives.
Yeah.
If you're on homicide.
They're law enforcement officers.
They all start as grants.
Detectives are out in squad cars.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, listen, I want to make something clear.
There's certainly cases of police misconduct, police brutality.
Those things are terrible.
Are there ways we can better train police officers?
Absolutely.
But I think police officers are fundamental to a function that the justice system itself isn't corrupt.
Like, I don't know.
If someone.
I don't disagree with you there.
I mean, like, what if my mom does get murdered?
And then what if they get the wrong guy?
And what if he gets convicted and spends the rest of his life in prison?
Or what if they do get the right guy and he just gets like, you know, what is it?
Slapped.
Executed.
No, executed.
I live in Missouri.
That's a, or well, I lived in Missouri.
That's a state in which you can get the death penalty.
I don't think that's fair justice.
If someone killed my mom, I'd want them to rot in prison for the rest of their life.
So no, either way, if someone's already murdered, what the fuck is a cop gonna do?
Unmurder them?
I mean, they're going to try to invest.
They're going to investigate the crime.
They're going to try to investigate the crime.
Murderers are caught.
Murderers are caught.
Not always.
That's why there are shows called Unsolved Mysteries.
More here than in a lot of places.
Unless they like leave DNA.
Hold on.
Hold on.
So there shouldn't be police officers because some cases aren't solved?
That's not what I said.
That's just your argument has fallacies in it.
So I'm not sure what you're saying.
I said there shouldn't be police officers because the system they stand for is corrupt.
Did you not hear me?
Not because they can or cannot solve murders.
I just feel like what they do is not what they're, or what they stand for isn't what they say they're doing.
They're saying they're protecting the people, and they do protect white people.
Of course they do.
White people don't get stopped and frisked.
And that's a known fact.
It's unproportional that in Latino and black comedians that these are the people who are getting stopped and frisked constantly.
The police are at the disadvantage of black and brown people.
They will always be to your advantage.
And that's why you're in favor of them.
And that doesn't surprise me.
However, from my point of view, as someone who grew up in a city that had both poor and rich people, black and white people, I've seen the white cops treat black people versus white people, and especially the way they treat poor black people.
And it's disgusting, and it's inhumane, especially someone who has family who's poor black people.
It's really scary.
So no, I do not think police officers should still be instated the way they're currently being instated.
The fucking system needs to be changed and remodeled so it benefits everyone.
Not just you, but everyone at this table.
I mean, I kind of reject quite a few of the premises that you've laid out there.
I mean, I'm a Shireen.
Sorry, sorry.
So, but anyways, we don't have to stay on that for too long.
Can I say something really quickly?
Sure.
Yeah, you mentioned brown people and Latinas and stuff.
Like, as a Latina, I know that when I call.
Oh, sorry.
I know that when I call, if I ever need the police, like at any moment or at any given time, I trust that the police are going to be there to support and serve justice.
You cannot generalize that all policemen are racist or they're all bad, you know?
That's like the worst thing you can possibly say.
I didn't say all, but I just said in Latino and brown communities, again, if you are listening to me, we are getting stopped and frisked unproportionately.
We are getting watched more than white people.
I'm not saying all police officers are bad.
I'm just saying these are the statistics, and you can look them up.
I too, as a Latina, know this.
I'm not dumb.
But I do know.
When was the last time you got stopped by a cop?
When was the last time I got stopped?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
Like, when you got pulled over or like anything, like when's that pulled over?
Questions by the mob.
Like when's the last time you talked to a cop?
He was like, hey, you.
When was the last time I spoke to a police officer?
Well, let's see.
I mean, I was.
I had a lawsuit.
I went to the courthouse, but I mean, that's not really.
That's not.
I was, I mean, I was attacked in the street exactly a year ago, and the police, I called the police.
I was attacked in the street.
Not by the police.
I got jumped.
I called the police.
Just kidding, go.
I called the police.
They showed up.
They took a report.
Yeah.
There was some follow-up.
They investigated a little bit.
Actually, I give quite a bit of credit to the police.
They did a decent amount of work investigating it.
However, as soon as it got to the woke district attorney here in Santa Barbara, the district attorney absolutely dropped the ball.
So that's where I agree with you, that the justice system is broken.
So I didn't get justice either myself.
And there was an abundance of evidence.
Yeah.
But because I actually say, I mean, I don't want to go too far into all the identity politics stuff, but I think because of the circumstances of the attack, the district attorney did not want to pursue it.
But, well, we're not going to get into it.
But yeah, the district attorney did not pursue criminal charges, even though there was an abundance of evidence.
Was it major female who attacked you?
Three guys.
I got, for the police that helped me out with that case, nothing but love for them.
But fuck the DA.
That's all I got to say.
You know what's crazy?
My boyfriend and I were driving, well, he was driving, and so he's a tall white guy.
He's Russian, pale to skin, obviously.
Anyway, he gets pulled over for running a red light and nearly hitting somebody, right?
We're in like some 2000, like S2000 Honda.
It's a pretty nice car.
Anyway, he gets pulled over.
There's a cop literally right behind us as it happens, right?
We get pulled.
I'm like freaking out.
I got weed in my purse.
I'm like, my full anxiety attack.
And he's like, this is fucking annoying.
And I'm like, yeah.
Anyways, cop rolls up and he's like, I got another call.
Don't do that again.
Literally just walks away.
Well, he did ask for his license and registration.
And then that was it.
Didn't even write him a ticket.
Didn't do anything.
And I looked at him and I thought, if that was me, I probably would have been like stopped.
My car would have been searched.
But like, I can't help but feel like because he's a, you know, maybe he's a foreigner.
I don't know what it was about him, but he is, you know, white.
And the fact that the copy.
Bro, y'all just really want to be victims.
Y'all just really want to be victims.
Victim because of X. I'm a victim because of Z. Like, a lot of y'all are reaching.
A lot of y'all are digging.
I think you're the one digging.
I think you're the one, like, you realize what's like ticking and you're like, let's pick at that just a little bit more.
I think you're reaching for that.
Like, what's making you so mad?
Like, why are you, you know?
I'm not, I'm not mad.
No, no, no, no.
You're, you're, you're obviously, you're, you're the one picking.
I have, I have criticisms of police, but I think, do police have an incredibly difficult job?
Are they necessary?
100%.
100%.
So, uh, what about you?
You like police?
You like to get cuffed?
The fuck.
All right, we're going to move on.
We're moving on.
I'm just trying to change the subject.
We're going to move on from the police stuff because it's just going to derail.
Are cuffs the best part of the police?
Because they've made it into the sex industry.
They're definitely more fun than the police, right?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Cuffs.
So, okay, we're going to get back to some light-hearted dating discussion here.
Light-hearted dating discussion.
Is anyone even watching anymore?
Yeah, there's people watching.
There's people watching.
Okay, sorry.
Let's see here.
So, normally I do this at the beginning of the shows, but you know, I didn't really have, we kind of riffed on some topics.
So, we have some videos to react to, some fun little videos.
But before I get into some of my other questions, before we react to some videos, I'd like to open it up to the panel here.
So, is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
So, one thing, maybe one thing, here's some prompts.
One thing you wish men did differently, something you don't get about men, there's a trend in dating that annoys you, men are pissing you off in some way, you want some advice when it comes to men are dating.
Any of these things, so go ahead.
Can you repeat that?
Like in a smaller anything dating-related you want to get off your chest?
There you go.
Can we come back to me?
I want to think about it a little bit.
Sure.
No.
Nothing?
Nothing dating related?
No.
Distracted.
Are you just still tilted about the conversation?
I mean, we were just, it's just a debate.
Like, it's not a big deal.
No, I just like don't really have like nothing like comes to mind.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Dating.
Like, just get off my chest.
Everyone is a stage five clinger, and everyone's lying if they say that they're not.
Okay.
None.
I would just say, like, respect goes both ways.
So, I mean, I'll give you respect if you give me mine.
Yeah.
I agree on that.
Jubilee.
I can't just say it like that.
Because a lot of things piss me off.
A lot of things piss me off about men.
I mean, a guy just texted me saying he's going back to his ex.
Were you guys kind of seeing each other?
No, I mean, not really, but he was really, he's supposed to come over tomorrow.
And now he's not.
Wait, is this the guy that you were talking about before?
No, someone else.
No, this is a good thing.
How many little links you got going on right now?
Maybe a few.
Maybe a few.
But they all kind of ghost me pretty quickly.
They go what?
They ghost me really quickly.
Why?
Why do they ghost you quickly?
I don't know.
I wish I knew.
Any guys out there?
Do you think they ghost you because they know that you've got like seven dudes that you're currently seeing?
They got the same.
They have the same.
They have a bunch of girls.
All is equal.
So, I don't know.
But a guy just texted me saying he's going back to LA to see his ex and apologizes.
Yeah, but you guys aren't like together.
No, no, but it was just like, damn.
Are you guys like friends like that?
I mean, yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
He's supposed to come over tomorrow and just hang out.
But that's canceled now, so that's cool.
I would pretend I'm busy.
But no, yeah, a lot of things piss off about men, especially with like personal experiences with dating and how men treat women, I guess.
What about hygiene?
Hygiene?
That's a whole other thing, I think.
What's the first thing you notice about a guy on your first date?
If they smell good.
Oh, they just smell good.
Okay.
Yeah.
If they just smell good.
I don't know.
What about you?
What do you first notice?
His hand.
Ooh.
Yeah, I'm a hand girl.
Wow.
But that says a lot about hygiene also, you know?
And like if they're working under their nails.
Yeah.
I'm always looking at nails.
Like how do you?
Like, are they working, man?
Exactly.
Oh, yeah.
You said you wanted to have us come back to you.
Did you come up with anything?
I mean, the only thing I can really think about is that I think I'm kind of excited for the way dating is moving towards accepting non-monogamous relationships more than it used to be.
I think those should be definitely highly more like considered than they are.
You think more people should have those kind of relationships or just more people should accept those kind of relationships?
Both.
I mean, I'm not saying that, like, if it's not for you, it's not for you.
But I think when it's more mainstream, just like being gay, like if it's more mainstream, it's more comfortable for people to be able to come out and express how they actually want to be.
And it's also easier for non-monogamous couples to meet other people who are non-monogamous.
I just want a man.
A real one.
She just didn't.
But so why can't you find a man?
What's going on?
I wish I knew.
What's wrong with you?
I ask myself that all the time.
I wish I knew.
I wish I knew.
I have no idea.
No idea.
I try.
I try my hardest, but doesn't happen.
I don't know.
That's all I could say, I guess.
Are you going to the bathroom?
Yeah, just right over there.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so you were saying we should open things up with the monogamy.
Non-monogamy.
Have it be non-monogamous.
Sorry, I totally, I misquoted you a little bit.
You think people should be more accepting of, or you like how the dating trend is going in terms of being more accepting of different kinds of relationships.
Do you want to have children?
At this time, my opinion is no.
I believe that's subject to change.
But I personally don't.
If I did, I would definitely want to adopt.
Okay.
Good times.
Good times.
I want to wait until she's back just so that we can for the video reaction.
So let me see, I have, oh, okay.
Have you ever dated a fuckboy?
Yes.
Yeah.
Currently dating an ex-fuckboy.
I have just based on his looks.
I'm carrying it.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I have.
I think so.
Actually, I haven't.
Good for you.
Yeah.
I've been like the first girlfriends for like all, like, both of them.
Yeah, which is really cute.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Like, yeah, like, both guys I've dated, I've been like their first girlfriend, so no.
Oh.
Yeah.
The two guys you've dated, you've been there first.
Yeah.
Okay.
But then again, I'm 18, so like, there's not much room for sleeping sometimes.
Yeah, wait till your first heartbreak.
That shit's gonna suck.
Yeah, it really does.
I'm literally 10 years older.
Yaw, the pain.
Yawp.
Okay, so fuckboys.
Did you answer?
I mean, I don't think he was.
I wasn't, I mean, it was only four months.
I really don't know.
Okay.
Java?
I mean, sorry, Jubilee.
Your Instagram handle is Java.
That doesn't mean it's always everyone's name.
Her username.
I don't know.
Everyone has different things.
I definitely have dated a fuckboy before.
And they don't change.
Are you a fuckboy?
I was literally thinking that.
Give me a house.
Or a fuck fuck girl, I guess.
I guess, like, definition, probably.
If I'm single, I'm single.
But if I'm in a relationship, I'm loyal.
I've helped out quite a bit in my relationships.
I've helped out.
What does that mean?
What do you mean you've helped out?
Equality.
Given a place to live.
Oh.
Yeah, exchange.
For what?
Given shelter.
And pussy parade was a place to stay.
What do you mean?
For what?
Those homosexuals.
Here's a question.
Would you find it sexist or offensive if a man only wanted to date a woman who shaved her legs under arms, pubic hair, and had long hair?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's offensive?
Cause like I feel like girls Wait let me, we'll come to you Go ahead.
That's fine.
No, I don't think so.
Wait, what?
If you have the hair and then they want you to shave it for them, or is it just in general?
Like 24-7?
No, so.
Okay, I'll just repeat the question.
Would you find it offensive or sexist if a man only wanted to date a woman who shaved her legs under arms, pubic hair, and had long hair?
Nah, baby, that's called preference.
Okay.
I mean, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't find it a big deal.
I don't think.
Yeah, it's not a big deal.
Like, girls, if a girl likes a...
What's your mic?
Oh, sorry.
If, like, girls like a tall guy or like ripped guy, like, there's not a problem with that.
If they have a preference, then that's respectable.
It's fine until they are really rude about it, I guess I'd say.
It's like, I'm not going to see you unless you shave or whatever the case is.
You know, if they push it a little too far, I feel like if he really loves you, or if this person really loves you, I think that eventually it's going to be like, you know what?
You look gorgeous anyway.
You don't.
Your hair looks like a hair.
Hair is hair.
Everyone has hair.
It's like telling guys to shave their legs and arm or whatever.
Unless he pays for it to get it fully removed all the time.
You had an issue with it.
Yes.
Why?
I mean, I think every girl has the ability to have body hair, and I think it's very over-sexualized to not have hair.
Especially being a woman.
You know, if a man doesn't want her to have pubic hair, I think that's disgusting.
Unless she wants to not have pubic hair.
But I don't think it's fair for a guy to force his views on a woman just for that.
But like if he doesn't, like if he's seeking a random girl and he says that, that's like, like you said, his preference.
Yes, that's kind of where I was going.
Oh, then my bad.
I thought you meant like in a relationship or something like that.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it could also play out like maybe she started that way and then she started getting lazy and he wasn't rude about it, but he was just like, hey, your legs are spiky or something like that, you know?
Then I would still stay with my original statement if that was the case.
So, yeah, I So I guess would you have her answered since she's coming back now?
So the question was, would you find it sexist or offensive if a man only wanted to date a woman who shaved her legs underarms, pubic hair, and had long hair?
So this is like a preference for a guy.
I feel like this is like a can of worms.
Hey, you're not shy.
You're not bashful.
So I don't feel like I'm being rude because earlier, I just feel bad because I didn't want to talk to you like that.
I don't want you to think I was trying to check you or put you in your place for having your opinion.
She only wants to check me.
Go ahead.
Well, yeah, like basically.
I just don't.
That's seven versus one.
It's just not right.
Yeah, I think like if I'm dating a guy and he's like, your legs are fucking hairy and disgusting.
Like that's rude, you know?
But like, I don't know.
Like, I think, I don't know.
Like, it's just like if we go on that first date and like, let's say, like, for example, I have hairy armpits and you decide that's not your thing, that's fine.
But if you're rude about it and you're like, you're disgusting, like, you need to shave, like, then that's where it kind of gets a little bit.
Just closer into the mic.
Then, like, I feel like once you like start commenting on it, that's where it gets impolite.
Because you can see someone's body hair and like be able to determine in person, like, this person is or this person isn't for me.
Like, same goes for girls.
Like, some girls don't like super hairy guys, and that's fine.
Yeah.
That's Ruth.
Not me, though.
Oh, she likes a bear.
That's hilarious.
Or a kitty?
Well, it's good that I shaved my beard.
Okay, so would you similarly find it?
I don't think she's like you.
Come on.
So would you similarly find it sexist or offensive if a woman wanted to date a man who was clean-shaven, had little or no body hair, shaved his pubic hair, or had...
Some women prefer mustache or beard.
So some women have a preference towards that.
Some women have a preference towards clean-shaven.
I think it's a bit more women prefer clean-shaven.
Wait, what do you mean, like, of just body hair, face hair?
Yeah, some girls dislike a guy who has a lot of chest hair.
Not a fan.
Yeah.
Because I've had my experience is I've had women go both ways because I can grow a beard, right?
So some women are like, I don't like that shit.
And then other women, other women are like, nah, I like it.
I like you with a beard.
You know what?
It's like the chest hair and the beard hair are great.
But as soon as you start to get into like the back hair and like the taint hair, it just gets a little fucked.
I like the happy trail.
It's fine.
Happy trail is fine, but like back hair.
I don't know, bro.
Okay.
It's too much.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a battle.
We are going to, we're going to do some super chats, then we're going to watch react to a video here.
Let me pull these up real quick.
So, oh gosh.
Okay, I'm trying to see where we.
where are we uh okay we got hold wait hold on okay Okay.
I believe this is where we're at, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
We got $10 from Rolo Tomasi, the rational male.
Hey, thank you, man.
Much appreciated.
Ladies, would you date a guy who identifies as a male feminist?
We kind of...
Did we kind of cover that?
Hey, sorry, Rolo, I think we covered that.
But if you want to ask the girls a different question, if one of the, Eric, if you can maybe just...
My mom's an esthetician.
The rational male.
Yeah, by the way, guys, go check out his book.
He has five of them, five books, The Rational Male.
Very good book, guys.
We're going to get him on the show eventually, so check it out.
Sorry, but yeah, if you want to just write a regular comment, we'll try to get that as your other question.
Andrew Tate with the can someone in the chat say what currency this is?
But thank you for the strange currency.
Is it Filipino?
I was going to say Philip.
Filipino, yeah.
Maybe pesos?
Maybe.
Anyone in the chat?
No, the pesos use as a dollar.
Oh, yeah.
I was going to say.
Anyone in the chat?
What currency is that?
Anyways, I'm coming to American.
I'm coming for you, Jabba underscore 31.
Okay, that's her Instagram.
Her DMs are open.
They are.
Oh, my God.
I'm waiting.
Okay, Richard Joy with the Canadian $10.
I'm sorry, dude.
We can't talk about COVID.
We're not on the screen.
Everyday, Edgar.
Let's see.
$10.
It's always the half and half girls speaking the most about what we go through.
Okay.
Everyday, Edgar.
Is that the Harry Potter slur?
I think Muggle.
He just called me the N-word and Harry Potter.
Jesus.
Wow.
Hey, that was a good one.
That's not clever.
Fucking butts really fucked up.
J.K. Rowling coming up with another way to do that.
Okay, Richard Joy.
Do you know how much it costs to throw someone in prison for life?
Okay.
Life for life, eye for an eye.
I mean, there's definitely some debate about the whole death sentence thing.
I mean, we're not going to get too deep into that, but there's definitely arguments for both.
But yeah, I mean, perhaps there are some crimes that are so egregious that maybe the death penalty is warranted.
But yeah, you do make, there's an economic argument to be made that the appeals process for if you have a death penalty case is actually more expensive than just keeping them in prison for life.
So yeah, good point.
I've been on death penalty forever.
Good point.
Yeah, and then there's also with the death penalty, I'll just bring it back up really quick.
In the event that there's a wrongful conviction, you know, if there's no going back from the death penalty, but if they're still in prison, you can release them.
So that's one of the major arguments against the death penalty is in the case of a wrongful conviction.
And we've seen cases where through DNA evidence, it comes out 20, 30 years later.
And yeah, so anyways, Richard Joy for the girls, say you were dating a guy.
He split the beans that he saw some escorts.
Is that a red flag?
I want your thoughts.
Who is this guy?
Richard split the beans.
He's a billionaire Canadian.
Cats out the bag.
You know what?
Sponsor me, please.
I'm so poor.
Richard, please.
I was just kidding.
Wait, can we say all your comments?
There's more.
I low-key love her, even though we had a debate earlier.
Is it mutual?
Not like a romantic love, but like a.
I'm glad you have to specify that.
Okay, never mind.
You're a good person.
Like we throw it out.
Let's go.
I appreciate it.
No, I just want to make something clear.
I know we had a bit of a heated debate, but debate is welcome.
And I'm glad that you were open with your positions.
So thank you very much.
You're a master debater.
Thank you for the endorsement.
I will put that on my business card.
So let's see.
Wait.
Oh, yeah, Richard Joy is, he is a.
He owns a maple syrup conglomerate in Canada.
So he's incredibly wealthy.
Owns some like maple syrup companies.
It's a whole thing.
My mashup is Anna Lisa DSG with a dollar sign in front of it.
Okay.
Her OnlyFans is coming soon.
Okay, so it's in the works, right?
No.
Okay.
Kai, why don't you go ahead and answer this one?
Okay, so I'm going to have to assume that you guys are dating when he split the beans, saying that he's also escorts, right?
Well, yeah, I'm not sure the way he's framing this.
I'm not sure if he means like in the past if he's hired prostitutes.
I need to know if it's a pretty good thing.
It sounds like during because he's saying like split the beans.
Like sometimes it's like an all-time girl, sometimes it's an escort, like a little splitting.
Completely lost.
Any guy who hires a prostitute is a no from me.
That's just fucking weird.
Like you can't get sex for free, dog.
Okay, he's saying it's in the past.
So would you have an issue dating a guy who, let's say, slept with some prostitutes in the past?
No.
No issue with it.
Okay.
Yes.
What are you?
Walter White?
Wait.
Walter White?
Or Jesse, Jesse Pinkman.
He slept with me.
Jesse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are you?
Jesse Pinkman?
Like, what?
Wait.
He slept with prostitutes in the show?
Yeah, Wendy.
Oh, is that a spoiler?
No.
The show's been out for a long time.
Oh, well.
We ain't seen it by now.
It's not that big of a deal, but.
So the meth selling was okay, but it was the prostitute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The methods.
I was neither, but I'm like, what person my age needs to hire?
Like, who does that?
Like, what, like, other, like, people my age, like, would need to hire a prostitute?
Like, you're in college.
Like, how has life gotten that tumultuous for you?
Elliot Rogers.
Okay, well, and I'm hiring a prostitute.
Well, actually, a lot of parents, like, our dad specifically, they'll hire like a prostitute for like their first time.
True.
So I.
I have what?
Like, weird, like, in the Philippines or here?
I've heard a couple of times.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
So they feel like manly and they know what they're doing when they're with like a girl they like.
Okay, so being someone who has dealt like in the life of sex work, I think that you can also develop a relationship with this girl and not because she is a prostitute, hire her, but because you want to be with her, but you also know that's the way to support her.
So you can hire her in that sense, too.
It's like, is that hiring her if it's supporting your girlfriend?
Wait, into the mic, into the mic.
Oh, is hiring someone the same thing as supporting your girlfriend if she happens to do sex work, you know?
Well, okay.
I want to just come in and just address what you said.
So you said, why would a guy need an escort?
The thing is, though, is it's very difficult.
It's much harder for men to get laid than it is for women to get laid.
Are you trying to say you hire escorts?
No.
To be honest, be for real.
I've never hired an escort.
I'd never pay for it.
Just making sure.
I was working in the Red Light District at one point in Amsterdam, and I was trying to get the ladies.
Oh, yeah.
It was a video.
It was a video.
Did you get it?
I was not very successful.
Did you go at night, though?
Well, the tough part was I was trying to get other escorts, female escorts, to pay me.
But was it day or night?
It was nighttime.
Was it a prank or something?
At least it was the right set of joke.
So did you get to go?
Would you have an issue with prostitutes?
He is splitting the beans between prostitutes and you.
Okay.
Would you have an issue with, like, you find out a guy that you're starting to date or whatever, he slept with escorts in the past.
Is that an issue?
I mean, fuck, he's probably a loser, right?
I don't know.
He's a loser?
I'm saying, he's probably, like, if somebody had to pay for an escort, I mean, I don't know.
I paid for porn once.
Like.
Okay.
What's yours?
Sorry.
I just feel like it'd be an invitation for a really great conversation.
Like, why paying and why for sex?
And was there nothing better to do?
Like, go to the zoo.
So, okay.
I mean, if it was in the past, I mean, I wouldn't like it, but I mean, it's in the past.
It's fine.
As long as he's committed to the relationship.
Sure.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you don't know, like, the background of it.
I mean, yeah, I mean, I would probably like respect it.
Yes and no.
I feel like I would be worried that they're going to go out and do it again while being in the relationship.
But is it also just like a turnoff too?
Like, oh, no, no, no, no.
Okay, sure, sure, sure.
So, related to that question, I want to ask you guys.
So, the guys passed Matt.
Oh, fuck.
I should have asked this.
I should have asked the question first.
Did you last time?
No, but I don't want to.
Okay, we're going to.
This is sort of related.
I know where Richard Joy's going with this.
What's your body count?
As in like having full sex?
How many?
Just how many sexual partners you've had?
Sexual partners.
Nine.
Okay.
Honestly, don't know.
I don't count.
I don't really care.
More than less than 10, more than 10?
Probably around 10.
I don't know.
30?
No.
Is it around 10?
Okay.
I actually just learned not that long ago that like full on, like all the way, you know, is looking.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
Huh?
I don't know.
Maybe like 10, 13.
10, 13?
10, yeah, 10 to 13.
Sexual partners.
Okay.
Sexual partners.
Average.
I don't keep one on purpose because I had a friend in middle school that was like that bitch that like fucking wrote down every fucking thing about every fucking baby.
It doesn't have to be an exact number.
No, it does.
I don't know because she had an exact body count.
I don't care about it.
We was all in high school.
I don't know.
It's got to be at least enough to know that I can fucking fuck.
She could fuck.
So how do you want to give a range?
20 to 30, 40 to 50.
What do you think it is?
I don't know.
Enough to know that I can fuck.
I mean, you've been back in her day.
Well, here's the thing.
I figured you see a girl with a kid and you're like, well, she fucks.
So I'm that girl.
What the fuck?
I mean, you have had sex at least one time.
Thank you.
I know I have proof.
It's great.
Evidently, unless it was like the immaculate.
I'm talking about full-on sex.
Oh my god, I am not on that level.
Immaculate conception.
No, I don't know.
I really don't know because I really, like, I really was traumatized.
I was like 30.
And I feel like there was this time my freshman year in college and I tried to guess.
And I was like, this is a bad idea for my self-esteem.
So I stopped trying to guess then.
So I really don't know.
I'm not going to even enough to know that it's been fucking awesome.
And I can fuck.
9,000.
Okay.
Maybe 9,000.
You got it.
Maybe.
I just got one.
Okay.
One.
Two.
I got more than that.
I don't answer that.
Come on.
Jubilee.
Jubilee.
Come on.
A guesstimate.
No, I don't answer that.
I don't think it matters.
I just.
Okay, chat.
What do you think herself?
Chat, what's her body count?
Let's see.
Well, just in response to all the girls' answers.
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
Okay, moving on.
Oh.
Should body count matter, though?
Wait, let me do super chats and then we'll go into that.
No, unless you have SDK.
Well, we'll come back.
We'll come back.
Wow.
Okay, so let's see where I was.
Oh, there's a fall.
Some of them are right.
So jump of the thought.
Yo, Benjamin, thank you for the big $50 Australian men.
Really appreciate the support.
Great work with the podcast so far, Brian.
Keep up the momentum.
Hey, man, really appreciate it.
Thank you for coming in with the support.
I think this looks like your first soup chat.
So if this is your first time tuning in, welcome.
Good to see you, man.
Stay around.
Okay.
Oh, Rolo came.
Sorry.
I preempted.
This is why I asked the question.
I saw this.
I forgot to pull it up.
Eric, thank you for starring it, though.
I love that.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, ladies.
So this, yeah, I should have pulled this up before I prompted it.
Richard Joy with the 10 Canadian dollars.
Look a here, Spider-Man boyfriend.
I get ready for you.
Wait, what?
Richard.
You shouldn't get ready.
Wait, what's hilarious?
I don't.
Spider-Man boyfriend?
Who's this directed to?
It's an inside joke.
Between you and Richard?
Yeah.
Do you know Richard?
I will.
Yes.
That's awesome.
Okay.
Richard.
Yo, Richard, thank you for the continued support, man.
By the way, please confirm or deny the whole maple syrup conglomerate thing.
Okay.
Oh, it's true.
Let's see.
Richard Joy, a man can spend $300 and spend an hour of talking and hanging out and get exactly what he wants, sex, without any games or nothing.
Yeah.
I mean, at the end of the day, you're going to have to pay for it some way.
So, okay.
You're paying one way or the other.
Let's see.
E.G. with the $10 soup chat.
I want to have sex whenever I feel like it.
I don't want to go through all the BS of dating.
I mean, that is true.
Like, if you just, I mean, I've never had an escort, but I could see, like, why some guys are drawn to it.
Like, if you just want to get laid, you don't want to do the whole dance of, let me take her on a date, and then 50% chance she's going to flake and then she's going to want to wait three dates.
So I can understand why some men, they just want it.
So I get it.
I think sex is better with someone you care about.
But anyways, Art Vandalay with the $10 soup chat.
Sometimes I think it would be more logical to have the chat answer with zeros and ones instead of ones and twos.
Okay, chat.
In response to this, one if you agree, two, if you disagree with Art Vandalay here.
Sorry, Art.
I love you.
Rolo.
Oh, okay.
I think that's it.
Is there one other that came in, Eric?
I think that's it.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
So yeah, body count.
Should body count matter?
I don't think.
Well, let's have you go last.
No.
Body count should not matter.
I don't think it should matter as long as he takes care of himself in like an STD standpoint.
Sure.
And so this can also be viewed either as your view of a partner, be it a guy or girl, if they have a high body count, or should body count matter, like if a potential partner might be judging you on body count.
I mean, not really, but I wouldn't have sex with a virgin, probably.
Yeah, I wouldn't have sex with a virgin.
No, fuck no.
I would.
Just like from like point of view of experience, and like I just wouldn't want to have sex with someone who's young either.
But like especially just the experience thing.
I would.
No, I don't think body count matters.
No.
I agree as long as you're keeping it clean.
Yeah.
Yeah, the only thing I would worry about is like RNA STDs.
It doesn't matter for me.
Doesn't matter.
Just be safe.
Okay.
As the sole guy at the panel, I must come in.
It matters for you.
For most men, body count is very important.
Because of their distance.
And body?
What?
Why?
Body count matters for me, and for most men, men care a lot about a woman's body count.
They want a woman with a low body count.
The fewer the better.
But don't you want to get that dick suck real good?
Yeah, she's going to be better.
What's practice?
Perfect.
I don't remember the last time I hung out.
Okay, even for a one-night stand.
Even for a one-night stand, I'd rather get with a girl with a low body count.
I've never...
That's all you're going to ask her.
I don't remember the last time I hung out with a guy.
Like, what's your body count before we do anything?
I've...
Or even date.
Like, I don't remember the last time someone asked me that.
Who keeps track?
And you've said, though, that you've had trouble getting into relationships.
Yes, but that is not from whatever I'm talking about.
Okay, so men have two categories.
We have hookup-only category, recreational-only category, and then we have relationship marriage girlfriend category.
For that category, men care deeply about body count.
If it's just to hook up, a lot of men probably are going to give a bit more leeway.
But when it comes to serious commitment, men care.
Not all men, but you ask most men.
Most men are invested in a woman's past, in her promiscuity.
I failed at dating, but nothing of body count or anything like that has been brought up.
So it's definitely not that.
I hope not.
Right, but there's other ways men can sort of...
Can I ask, though, why...
Like, what's the why here?
Why the low body count?
I'm not like asking with some like fucking underlying like asking for a friend.
Like, I'm just curious.
I can give you a couple of reasons.
Yeah.
But I mean, is it surprising to you to hear a guy say that body count matters?
Because I mean, I think they always ask either.
Like, I fucking after dating, you start asking those types of questions, you know?
No, some of them never fucking ask.
Some of them just don't want to know.
I was in a relationship for over a year and we never asked each other that you don't fucking go investigating into your past meeting.
And you even offer them shit and they're like, I didn't really want to fucking smell that shit.
You didn't need to pull that.
And you're like, sorry, I can't help myself.
But I just, I don't know.
It's a curiosity of mine.
Why?
If I want to upset, I'm going to say that.
So there's a few things, and I'll give you a couple reasons why men care about a woman's past promiscuity or even ongoing promiscuity.
So first off, throughout all of human history, there's a cultural component to it, but there's also a biological and an evolutionary reason why men care about a woman's promiscuity.
And I guess the first one I can give you is, well, throughout the vast majority of human history, men cared about sexual purity in women.
And even to this day, they still do.
So.
That seems very patriarchal, though.
How's that?
That's just a preference.
That's something men care about.
And women.
And by the way, I want to make something clear.
Women can say, hey, I don't want to date a guy who's a player.
I don't want to date a guy who fucks hundreds of, like, women can have that.
I meant actually strictly from when you said the historical context.
Only that part.
I'm like, in the past, it was like all because of chastity and like religiosity.
Like if the woman went outside and like had sex before she was promised this a man, her dad would rather kill her than see her like exist and be all like deflowered and shit.
So that was all I meant.
It was like, strictly speaking, historically, I'm not so sure.
Now, different, maybe.
It reminds me of that.
Yo, can you stop?
I don't know why you're like, we're just, but it's, we told you at the beginning of the show, please, like, no cross chod.
Like, it's just, we don't have headphones, so it's hard to tell, but if, like, multiple people are talking for the viewers, it's just very difficult if there's multiple people on the microphone.
So.
Sorry, guys.
So let me come in.
Hold on.
Let me just come in on my reasons.
So evolutionarily, men cared about. promiscuity because if a woman's promiscuous, if she's sleeping with other people, she could get pregnant and you cannot guarantee who the father is.
So if she slept with other people, you don't know who the child is.
So there's, and there's something ingrained in men where we, it's a big fucking L for a dude to be raising another guy's kid.
There is, yeah, in this society.
Hold on, but let me give you some more reasons.
So there's the evolutionarily hardwiring for men to be repulsed by promiscuity because it's a paternity thing.
Men don't want to be victims of paternity fraud.
They want to raise their kid, not somebody else's kid.
And not only is it paternity thing, it would suggest infidelity.
So there's that.
The other thing is, is it's just, there's the STD risk.
Someone who's more promiscuous is more likely to have an STD.
So someone who has a high body count, more likely to have an STD.
There's also just a general like kind of the thought of, at least for me personally, the thought of sleeping with a woman who fucked a guy the night before is kind of disgusting.
Like I would find that disgusting.
To sleep with a girl who a guy came in her the night before, then I'm going to sleep with you.
Like that's just, and a woman can have the same standard too.
You just fucked a girl and you're not like it's you're you still got her juices on like to me that would be disgusting.
Then you must not pay for sex either Brian because it's also like detoxing people like when you share your body with somebody like you know like you take a lot from each other.
No, I hear you on all that.
I'll just say one small point.
There's definitely in this society all of that I feel like pretty true.
Let me just finish and then I'll let you come in.
So there's the few other reasons is if a woman has had a lot of sexual partners, she's less likely to be able to pair bond.
She's less likely to be able to fall in love with you.
The incidence rate of infidelity is greater if she has a high body count.
Sorry, infidelity is more likely.
Reporting relationship to satisfaction is more likely.
So the more people you sleep with, and they've done studies on this, there's a greater incidence of breakups, greater incidence of divorce, greater incidence of infidelity, greater incidence of reporting relationship to satisfaction.
And a woman who slept with 100 people is just not going to be able to attach to you in the same way that a girl who slept with one, two, three guys are going to be able to.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, that's all like super framed from like today's standpoint.
So fair enough.
Like if that's like everything's from that reference, like also not a single man out there trying to make it in the world with ladies, so I can't really relate like even on that level.
So I'll go ahead and say that.
But there's definitely times in the actual history where there are societies where they didn't mind that the men and women were so close that men realized they might be actually raising the children of their fucking neighbor or something because they all were co-siring children.
These exist throughout history too.
So just saying it's all about context and where you're at.
So yeah, yours is here and now and I get that.
Fine, sure.
Great.
Thank you for answering that.
That was all.
Well, I mean, I'm not sure what societies those are, but overwhelmingly.
Yeah, I mean, I wish I didn't study up to come here, so I don't like having on like a cue card to give to you.
That's what I just said.
I know they exist.
Like, you know, I like you have seen documentaries.
There definitely is that thing where I remember that this has been a thing, and I thought, oh, that's fucking weird because no one in today's society would ever be able to hang with this situation.
But it was like literally almost exactly what you said, which is just that the men and women were all so close and all intermingling so much that no one fucking knew who the fucks kids were and they all just were a small enough society that it didn't matter.
Everyone just breathed everyone.
Whatever.
So, yeah.
Well, I mean, I think the nuclear family has been valued throughout much of human history.
And it's only in recent times that we've seen the destruction of the nuclear family.
So.
Yeah.
Does anybody, I mean, we had a bit of back and forth.
Did anyone else want to respond to anything?
Did you want to come in?
I know you wanted to come in.
Did you want to come in?
Your response to any of that?
Oh, no.
It doesn't matter anymore.
What?
Why?
I just don't think we need to backtrack.
Huh?
I don't think we need to backtrack if we're.
You don't want to give?
Okay.
And just because, well, you know what?
There's someone who can explain this far better than I can.
You know, I'm not quite as articulate and well-spoken as the following individual we're about to watch.
Eric, can you pull up the video tab?
Video, yeah, you're going to have to scroll down to, it's in the, yeah, there we go.
We're going to do, we're going to react to the body count clip.
I'll be right back.
You know what's so attractive about younger women?
Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
I don't actually think it's that.
I think that in the modern world, in the days of old, right, you'd meet a woman, you get married, you'd be together with anyone.
In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
How many men have fun?
If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
I'm going to be dude number fucking 29.
And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door.
Like, well, my last man cheat.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, I don't care.
Like, why is that my problem?
So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer.
They've had more fucking rides, more spins.
I don't want that shit.
When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
And also, no, but no, but the truth is, women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her voluntary.
It is unattractive.
And it's unattractive.
But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
Or is she going to think, you know what?
He talked to me, Rudy, I was going to get a new guy.
Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.
Except the likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her, after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
You know what?
This is the guy I like.
Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
Women fall in love with the person who loses their virginity too, or their second or third guy.
They really remember them.
They really love them.
Any woman who slept with 50 dudes she doesn't remember who most of them are.
She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
She's more likely to just sing.
You know what?
New answers, new data.
It's a pretty good answer and that's the truth.
Let me make something clear.
If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying i'm old.
Sleep with her, that's pretty fucking old.
Yeah 30, what are you crazy I. There's been times always body count hound or else your reaction to the video.
Honestly, he spoke really fast and it was kind of quiet you couldn't hear.
I mean not really, I mean, I think I got the gist of what I was saying.
Okay, maybe it was the ears.
The ears were covering up the.
They should give me more hearing.
Oh, shit.
Good point.
Your reaction?
I, too, couldn't really tell what that guy was talking about, but he seemed really passionate.
Some people here at the table could hear, right?
Yeah.
Andrew Tate just grinds my gears in general.
You couldn't hear it?
You couldn't hear that?
No, it was pretty quiet.
I mean, on my end, it kind of was quiet.
He does talk really fast.
I mean, we watched this video last time, so I've already said my thoughts on it in the past.
Well, we'll come to you at the end then.
I mean, he did mention about heartbreak and trying to move on and having this other person be stuck on somebody else.
I mean, we've probably all been in that situation, right?
We're trying to move on with somebody.
So, as far as the body count, I don't know if that matters, but that's my reaction to it.
Yeah, I mean, he was definitely passionate about it, and it's like super opinionated, and he super feels like he's right.
So, there he went.
I mean, yeah, he has a lot of his own opinions, but I mean, we all have our own opinion on body count.
I just think the body count should be a preference.
If you want, if you care, it doesn't matter, I don't think I think it's like the importance you give to sex.
Like, it doesn't matter, like, the body count you have, it depends, like, how you view sex and you're a loyal partner.
And yeah, I respect his opinion, honestly.
If you don't want a girl with a high body count, then don't be with that girl.
Find a girl with a low body count, and if you think that she's not capable of love with a high body count, I don't think that's true.
Yeah, date a boy if you don't want a girl with a high body count.
Yeah.
Easy fix.
Or you could just date a woman with a low body count.
Or a boy.
Or a woman.
If they tuck, it's almost the same thing.
That's the solution.
Just be gay.
They can tuck for you.
It's okay.
It looks the same from the front.
Right?
Okay.
A tuck.
I just don't think a woman with a high body count, I think they're capable of love.
I don't think that they're not.
I don't think a number or whatever.
They're capable of love, but it's just.
I'll fall in love real quick.
They've done studies on this.
Like, the more sexual partners you have, it does shift your opinion.
How many sexual partners do you have?
Just wondering.
I'm a man of God.
So I don't reveal my body count.
So you ask women that matters.
You asked all of us our body counts.
Because I believe body count matters.
So I'm going to omit answering that question.
I'm a very discreet individual, so I don't answer that question.
Right.
Clever.
Okay.
Minus.
That's an answer.
That's not fun.
Clever.
You guys could have omitted answering if you were so incredible.
I fucking did.
Well, there you go.
Exactly.
Didn't you ask the chat hers what they thought hers would be when she tried to omit?
What does the chat think yours would be?
They can if they want.
Chat.
If you want, you can try to guess my body.
You can try that.
That's going to be the judgment sometimes.
I think he's still waiting for the big day.
Ain't no shame in it.
You think I'm a virgin?
Ain't no shame, dude.
You think I'm a virgin?
Man of God.
Do you want to promise me nothing so?
I mean, I'm being flippant about that comment.
But I don't think you have a shot.
I don't think it's impossible.
I'm just saying.
Version five.
What about?
No.
Anyways, moving on.
Give us something else.
Let's give you something.
Yeah, that was the most.
That was a very milquetoast response to Andrew Tate that usually triggers people.
We're going to answer a couple super chats here.
So let's just see.
I want to make sure I get all of them.
Okay, we're here.
Richard Joy with, wait.
It's all good.
You start it, though, yeah?
Eric?
What's up?
You started that one?
Yeah.
Okay, cool, cool.
Richard Joy with the $10 Canadian dollars.
Spider-Man girlfriend, this question is directed to you.
Have you left the United States of America?
If so, please go into details where you have been.
Mexico.
This is better my girlfriend.
I think it's her.
I think it's Anna.
Does Mexico not count?
What?
Mexican.
What are the details here?
Can you scoot into the table?
Oh, yeah.
My bad, my bad.
You're good, you're good.
Richard, why does Mexico not?
Maybe you should check to see if he's sent you the cash app money.
Oh, yeah.
That's what I'm saying, too.
I'm like, why was my girls going to me this?
I'm like, is he assuming I'm Mexican or is that just him being like just a mid in Mexico for just like no reason?
I've never been to Mexico, but it seems like a beautiful country.
Wait, just remind me really quick.
I know this is totally different.
What was your longest relationship?
It was a little less than a year.
I'd say.
I was trying to remember people.
Yeah.
Not related at all.
Okay, we got Mike Dust here with the $10 soup chat.
You don't need to sleep with 100 guys to learn how to give a good BJ.
Okay.
Word, that's true.
Hey, you can teach that shit.
You can learn.
Don't give a bad classes the first try.
Moving on.
Sweet.
Moving on.
Let's see.
Okay.
The Dark Knight with the $10 Super Chat for the, thank you, man.
For the ones that said body count doesn't matter, please share your body count.
We did that.
Chances are you won't be honest, thus proving why it's important to most men.
So they actually did all.
I think all of them shared their body count except for someone at the table.
Okay, moving on.
I guess I'm going to give a ballpark.
Oh, wait, you didn't give yours yet?
Okay, give your ballpark.
Just do it.
Wait, hold on.
I got to play something for you.
Rule number 76, no excuses, play with a champion.
Okay, what is it?
It's like 30.
Somebody says, is your name?
Anna said you'd be a mind.
Asking the real question.
Who wants to date a guy in a dress?
Okay, show of hands.
Show of hands.
Would you date a guy in a dress?
Who wears dresses?
Young thug is.
I was defending him in that dress.
Sends the asteroid.
Okay.
Let's see.
Richard Joy with the 10 Canadian dollars.
Question for the ladies.
Would you date a trans man?
Yes.
I would love to.
Trans man.
Okay, so.
Depends.
I don't have to worry about getting pregnant.
We'll go around the world.
Dude, of course, yeah.
No.
Sorry.
I haven't ever considered it.
I mean, if I like you, I like you.
So yeah, sure.
If you make me like you, I like you.
Never thought about it, but I mean, I don't think so.
I've like not thought about it either.
But I mean, hey, like, if it happens, it happens.
But when I first started dating my most recent ex, his best friend told me he was trans, and I was, I thought he was for a second.
So I was fine with it.
I would love to.
So, not against it at all.
Okay, Richard Joy, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Okay, really quick, like, have you left the United States?
He really wants to know.
You can send me some money, then I'll answer that question.
Okay, Richard Joy with the billion, with the billion-dollar maple syrup conglomerate.
We need a $500 soup chat for her to answer this question.
Woo-wee!
Straight to her cash app.
Yeah.
A thousand split.
Like the beans.
So we're gonna react to another video.
Eric, if you can pull that up.
Sorry, we got a bus or something passing by here.
So we're gonna do the first one.
How much money?
What's up, guys?
Welcome back to the daily dropout.
I'm Danny.
Today I'm gonna be asking girls how much money should a guy make per year?
All right, hi guys.
So my question for you is how much money do you think a guy should make per year?
Depends where they live.
I mean if I'm like dating them, it'd be nice if they were at least making $100,000.
Oh my god.
Like a million, two million?
Yeah, bitch, go pay.
We're at ASU, you know.
So you're not going to find him here.
Like fully like adult.
Someone that you would consider wanting to be a good soul.
300.
Okay.
Three figures?
Okay.
So why is that?
Just because like back to table income nonsense.
100?
Like 500?
Is that a lot?
No, 500 is on a good day, yeah.
I mean, it depends.
Okay.
A lot more expensive.
Yeah.
Mills.
Mills.
Shit.
Okay.
I don't really care.
I think, I mean, I like when guys like pay for dates and stuff.
So if a guy made 30K a year, is that something you're okay with?
Yeah, I think that would be great.
Like your husband.
Oh, shit.
Husband.
Yeah, I think that would be fine.
If it was my husband, I'd be in love with him, so yeah.
I wouldn't really say I would have a price on that.
I mean, as long as they treat me respectfully.
Minimum six figures, no matter what the situation is.
We have an expensive lifestyle.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I totally understand.
We got to get good skincare routine, you know, the whole whole nine yards.
$100,000.
$120,000.
$80K and maybe like $120,000.
Yeah, I would say, like, once you get to a certain age.
Like, I don't know.
I'm also kind of like a gold digger, so.
No, I'm planning on just like supporting myself with my income.
So I don't really plan on being supported by the person that I'm dating.
What is the lowest you would go?
So $500,000.
I could have a nice settled life with like $200,000 a year.
Okay.
Normal.
What's the lowest though, though, that you would go for?
What the fuck?
Oops.
What?
Okay, so that's from the daily dropout, by the way.
I mean, it wasn't the full video, but you kind of get the idea.
So your guys' reaction to that, and also if you just want to answer the question, like, how much would a guy need?
What was the question that she asked?
How much should a guy need?
Like, how much should a guy make?
How much should a guy make?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I mean, I know some of you are in college, so you're probably not overly concerned with finances at this point, but maybe if you want to answer, like, hey, this is going to be maybe when you get married, the guy who's going to be your husband or your life partner, how much would you like him to make?
I want to be the breadwinner for the relationship, so less than me.
You want that?
Hold on.
I want to spoil him.
So you want to be the breadwinner?
Yeah.
Okay.
I love that.
So he.
Well, you're currently in a relationship now.
Yeah.
So he has to make it less than you.
I mean, he doesn't have to, but I think I'd like to flex on that a little bit.
Okay, how much are you going to make?
What do you think?
I don't know.
Are you going to?
Well, you said your current occupation is go-go dancing.
Is that going to be, is there continuity there?
Are you working on something?
I'm saving up to go to school.
What do you want to do?
I want to be a mortician.
Oh, I could see that.
I could see that.
I love that.
That checks out.
That checks out.
Okay.
They make good money.
Have you seen Six Feet Under?
I have.
Good show.
Good show.
Yeah, right now, I don't really think a guy's finances matter, but in the future, I want to be a lawyer.
So I think as long as his income is around mine, as long as he's not sitting on the couch, like unemployed, eating potato chips, I think we're going to be fine.
As long as he has that drive and determination, that's what it's more about other than the money.
I don't care if he makes more or less than me as long as we're both working the same, working just as hard as each other.
But is there like a bare minimum, for example, that you'd want to partner with?
It just depends how old we are and like where we are in our lives, you know?
Let's say 30.
How old are we?
You're both 30.
Oh.
Or within about that age range.
I don't see.
I don't know enough about finance to know how much I'd be making at that point.
So what kind of, you said you want to become an attorney, correct?
Yeah.
Do you know what kind of law you want to practice?
Gosh, I think I want to do contracts.
Just a little closer.
I want to do contract law, copyright.
So intellectual property stuff, maybe some business.
Type B.
Okay.
But my passion is doing on the side, like pro bono work.
So I don't know.
I just really don't know.
And so do you have a sense of how much money you think you'll be making?
Because attorneys can do, I mean, you might be making anywhere from 100 to 200K at 30.
I just, I don't expect someone to be, I don't know, like if I'm making like 50K, I don't expect my partner to be making a million 500K.
But if that so happens, it's nice because I know like that's someone where it's like if we started a family, my children would have like that like safety cushion.
But I'm not looking for that.
I'm not going out looking for guys like you have to have.
It must be this rich to ride, you know?
But I do know money helps.
Like I'm not an idiot.
But okay, so let's say you end up at 30, you're an attorney, you're making $200,000 a year.
How much would you like your partner to be making?
Probably like, yeah, six figures at least.
Like around that, but if he's making less, like, and I love him, like, that's love, you know, as long as he's working, as long as he has that determination.
Okay, so you wouldn't have an issue being the primary breadwinner then?
No, as long as he's working.
Okay, so you'd like pay for his stuff, pay for dates, pay for trips, stuff like that?
As long as it's like love, like I probably wouldn't want to like, like I said, like if our incomes are like, if he's making $500 a year and I'm making $500,000 a year, that's a problem.
But like, I don't want to have a relationship where things- Why is it a problem?
Just because we're obviously not on the same level then.
If I'm making 500K, there are things where it's like I just need to be at a point in my life where I'm settling down with someone who's also making enough money to start a family.
I don't want to be like the sole dependent.
What if something happens to me?
Then what?
Like what happens to our kids?
Like what happens to my spouse?
Where it's like I wouldn't want to have to just give all my money to them.
I'd want to give some of it to charity where it's just a lot of factors that go into it.
And I think money's important, but it's not everything.
Okay.
No, I completely agree with what you're saying.
And living within your means.
You know, if you're, you know, spending more than you're making, that's a big issue also.
I learned that a lot as a teenager, just like, you know, living within your means because I didn't get money whenever.
So I think spoiling each other is very important.
And I think depending on where you're living and what your rent and like your cost of life should determine like each other's money income, I suppose.
50-50 on everything.
50-50 on everything.
If you can, you know?
Sure.
Okay.
Do you have like a number, just how the girls, they just gave a number?
Do you have a number?
Well, we're in Santa Barbara, so a lot.
For sure.
Okay, so you're...
I don't know.
But you currently have a boyfriend, right?
Yeah.
so do you have a sense of how much you'd want your current partner maybe when um he's on his way to like medical school um which is awesome okay Okay.
Go ahead.
Yeah, but like I actually have a real answer.
I don't want to give my actual answer, but I can say this.
To live in this fucking community, like you definitely need to be combined making.
Like if you want to live comfortably and above 30% of everything going towards just rent and cost of living, you're going to have to be making over $120,000 a year.
Good luck.
I'm saying combined.
That means two of you together.
Which to the people who are like, it's only $60,000 that you make.
That's two of you could be making that.
But just being realistic, guys, this is a community where you can't make under $100,000 together and survive here very comfortably.
Yeah, definitely the cost of living in Santa Barbara is very high.
It's wild here.
I wouldn't necessarily think that, I mean, I don't really have an amount, but as long as he's not financially dependent on me, we're like constantly asking me to pay for things like that.
That would get annoying.
I really think they're like 50-50.
Like spoiling each other.
I think that's really important, especially in a relationship.
But if you like truly love the person, I don't think it really matters.
I mean, finances don't really matter.
It wouldn't help.
Don't pay the bills.
It would really, really help.
But I mean, if you love the person.
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, I want to be a lawyer too, and I wouldn't have like a problem if like my partner made less than I did, as long as he put an effort to live comfortably and provide a good household for like children, like potentially.
Like I, when I date, I think like this man could potentially be the father of my kids.
So if he's okay with like if I make more money than him, then that's all right, you know?
But I'm not going to say like a specific amount.
That's not like a deal breaker.
Well, because I mean, you both are young.
You're both in college.
So obviously right now, finances are not particularly important.
But let's say when you're 30, do you have a sense of a number?
Over six figure, like anything?
Like I said, just to live comfortably and provide like a good home for like potential kids.
Sure.
I mean, I mean, for number wise.
I have my own business.
I'm 19.
I've been doing it for almost three years.
And the last time I checked, I make around $40K a year.
And I was financially, like, a guy was financially dependent on me, which sucked.
And so I definitely don't want that ever again.
But I guess in the future, let's say I'm 30, my business is thriving.
I'm living great.
And I have whatever business salon, whatever that goes to.
I definitely would like my husband or future partner to make definitely a round.
I don't mind making more, but if it's in the same kind of ballpark, that's kind of what I would want.
I mean, more definitely was nice, but I definitely would like to be spoiled.
Anyways.
Didn't you say on the last time you were on the show that you were simp?
Yeah, I paid.
Oh my gosh.
I went to brunch with someone I paid.
Like it was a date?
Yeah.
Brunch date?
Just met him.
And you paid?
I paid.
Did you?
I paid for my second date, so.
That's not that.
Oh, I paid for brunch.
He paid for bowling.
Is this the same date for you?
Same date, same day.
You paid for brunch, he paid for bowling.
Yeah.
And then I paid for dessert ice cream after.
And then you paid for the plan B?
Oh, my God.
We didn't do anything.
Oh, okay, of course.
He failed to mention he's in the military.
He just never mentioned it.
He's in the military?
Yeah.
He didn't tell me that until I figured it out.
Oh.
Whoops.
Good times.
Good times.
So you guys would date a broke guy is what I'm understanding.
No.
No.
You two over here.
Y'all date a broke guy.
No, I wouldn't date a broke guy.
Like I said, I would want to date someone who, if potentially was a father of my kids, could provide a comfortable household.
That's not a broke person.
Sure.
See, I think men and women differ a little bit on this one.
I think men really could care less about a woman's finances.
It's like a very low priority thing for men.
We just can speak for myself.
I mean, maybe guys who are, if they're kind of financially struggling, they care.
But I would say that men and women share their resources a little bit differently.
I mean, I know you're a simp, so I mean, that's a bit.
I'm teasing you, by the way.
I know you're a bit of an outlier, but like most women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
At least that's been my experience when it comes to dating.
That's a lot of guys' experiences.
Yeah, there's some girls that are simps out there that'll do the same shit, but like I've had a girl one time on a date.
She bought me a burrito.
She offered.
That's it.
One time.
Otherwise.
That was the only time.
Otherwise, either I'm paying or I'm going to split the bill.
Was it a good burrito?
It was super cuckoos.
It was okay.
I remember the last time I was here, we were talking about like who pays.
Yeah.
And like, this definitely was a red flag with this guy.
I mean, he's in the military, which is a red flag for me.
He didn't.
And yet you went on a date with him.
I didn't know until after.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know until I had to figure it out.
So, what was the red flag?
That he didn't reach for the bill.
Oh, absolutely.
At all.
Like, at all.
Not even adjustment.
Not even asking you.
Did he ask you out?
Fuck.
Or did you ask him out?
Fuck.
Did you guys have the other one?
I think it was like a mutual.
I actually can't remember.
Oh, I think it was me.
This was only like three days ago.
I can't really remember.
But I mean, I planned everything, which is kind of pissing me off.
He's not from Santa Barbara.
I mean, he's from Ventura, but lives in San Diego.
And so I, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
He doesn't come up here often.
And so I've planned everything.
You want a relationship, right?
Yeah.
So you, you, your own free will, you went on a date with a guy that does not live in Santa Barbara.
I thought he lived in Ventura.
I thought he lived in Ventura.
You shouldn't even be dating a guy who lives in Ventura.
That's like 45 minutes away.
Yeah, it's like 50.
We're from Ventura.
We're from Ventura.
I don't know.
He doesn't die.
I ain't driving.
I did that shit one time.
I'm not going to Ventura.
He drove to me at 10 a.m. to get out of here.
Yeah, but like part of it.
I wouldn't mind.
I wouldn't mind the 45 minutes.
If he would want to drive and come see me and stay over maybe for a day or two, we could spend time together.
I don't think Ventura is that far.
So for me personally, it's not a big deal.
He said Ventura.
I said, okay, cool.
But then he actually lives in San Diego.
So that's why I'm like, I don't know.
Why?
Like, I just don't get why.
Like, there's so many people in Santa Barbara.
It's just a convenience thing.
Just look next to you.
God damn it.
There's so many people in Santa Barbara.
No, I just.
Personally, I didn't mind the distance for Ventura.
I don't care if she's a Victoria Secret model.
I'm not driving more than 30 minutes for her.
I don't care.
I mean, she could be fucking hot as fuck.
I'm not driving that far because that's just.
Oh, oh, I'm exaggerating a little bit.
The guy wanted to hang out first.
I remember that.
You matched on Bumble.
He wanted to hang out first.
The first thing he said when we were hanging out was the first thing he said to me.
But then I paid.
Yeah.
He checked how much it was.
How did he get home?
He like drives.
He picked me up and everything.
He picked me up.
He drove everywhere.
Okay.
So he had a car.
He just didn't have a wallet.
He paid for bowling, which I'm fine with because it was more expensive than food.
Before we do our next video reaction, I want to touch on we were previously talking about escorts, and a few of you said, well, what's wrong with you if you need an escort?
And I want to have this conversation.
Who do you guys think dating is easier for?
Men or women?
And perhaps I should frame it.
Who is it easier to get sex?
Or who's it easier for to get laid?
Men or women?
Wait, can I answer this?
I don't know.
We can.
We can go this way.
I'm happy to hear you.
I think it depends on who asks first, if that makes sense.
Like if a girl is like, hey, come over.
Okay, it's easier for girls.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I mean, I answer this in this one.
Yeah, definitely easier for girls.
Like, I could text someone and be like, hey, come over, and they'll come over.
Oh, never mind.
I'm not going to say that.
Again, I am not a man, so I can't speak from experience.
But your observations.
My observations.
I can show you DMs where men are desperate asking for sex, and I'm just like, no.
Yeah.
It's quite, I feel like it's way easier for women to get sex.
Eric, can you just start this one?
I think we missed it.
So you think it's way easier for women to get sex?
Definitely.
Okay.
And you said you got some thirsty DMs.
Yes.
You don't have to say names, but like, what'd they say?
Like, okay.
Like, this person probably is watching, but he, like, blank person.
He just, like, randomly sends me a video of him, like, with his dick.
How are you still friends after he sent you a picture of his dick?
That's a wrap.
That's a wrap.
Yeah, I think we're done.
That's just like a boundary thing.
Yeah, for sure.
Why do guys think that's attractive?
I really want to know, because guys will send them randomly and they think, oh my God, she's going to love this.
She's going to want me.
No.
You know what?
I don't know because I've never sent a dick pic.
I don't send nudes or anything like that.
So I can't really answer that.
I don't understand the psychology there with the whole dick pic thing.
Wow, there's some deep eye contact going on on this side of the table.
The difference between, I don't send nudes, but the difference between like nudes, girl, sent, and guy sent, they just send a picture of their dick in the toilet.
At least they try to make it look cute, you know, and like collingerie or something.
Yeah.
So at least like they're putting some work to it.
Not just like sending them back to something.
That's awesome.
I think, but you know what?
I think women should start sending pussy pics.
I'm just saying.
You can just get back at them because you know it's bad.
Yes.
Women, send your revenge pussy pics to me.
Okay.
I'm down.
All of them.
As a fan, you know, you know, I didn't, I've removed this from the intro.
I'm a visual learner.
I just want to say all labia matter.
Hashtag all labia.
Can we get all labia matter in the chat?
It is deeply offensive that women are shamed if they have a large labia.
I am upset by it.
It is disturbing to me.
There are some terrible terms that are thrown out there.
And I'm also, hey, egalitarian here, I think we shouldn't be shaming men for their pens.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I just don't want to be like at my 9 a.m. class opening that on Snapchat.
Yeah, that shit.
That's weird.
That's just for sure weird.
That's just unclassy.
Yeah.
That's actually kind of like, that's kind of terrifying as a girl.
Like, because you said you're friends, right?
So that's like some boundary.
We've been friends for a while, too.
That's some weird boundary shit going on there.
So did you get an opportunity to answer?
What was the original question?
Is it easier for men?
Oh, who's easier?
Is dating easier?
Is getting laid easier?
I mean, that was a great example that happened today.
I mean, yeah, I think that for women, it's a lot easier.
I mean, especially on social media, you have Snapchat, Instagram.
Like, they can just pop up and just want, request anything.
I just think attractive people have it the easiest.
Like, whether you're a man or a woman or anything on the spectrum between those two.
Yeah, like, for sure, the attractive ones are getting theirs.
You know what I mean?
I agree with that, but I would say that even an average-looking woman has much easier access to sex than even a really good-looking guy.
Possibly, but if that really good-looking guy has a wallet and on the other side of his fucking pants is a phone, he can find an escort.
So we found that.
Who's having sex with that average-looking woman?
Like, a man, right?
So, doesn't it go both ways?
Well, it's I want it like to have sex.
Like, I mean, like, gay sex exists, of course, but I assume you're referring to straight.
Yeah, this is heterosexual contacts here.
Eric, can you pull up the can you pull up the hypergamy chart in the window tab?
Her pyramid.
So, um, so you mentioned that you mentioned that, well, in order for an average girl to be sleeping with someone, she must be sleeping with someone, but it's not one-to-one ratios here.
So, hypergamy, on the left, you have whom men would happily partner with, and on the right, you have whom women would happily partner with.
And so, basically, what you have happening is the top 10, top 20% of men have the lion's share of sex, let's say.
So, because women date across and up socioeconomically, they sleep across and up socioeconomically.
And I mean, there's other hierarchies too.
So, in response to that, and you see this on dating apps, basically, you have 80% of the women that are chasing after the 20% of the men.
So, yeah, there is a guy having sex with that average woman, but anyways, you can bring it back, Eric.
Does that address your?
I get what you're saying.
So, like, basically, the top 10% of men, all women want to fuck them.
Yes.
So, the other guys are left out.
Those other guys just need to get like more Riz.
Girls are attracted to, like, it's like confidence, essentially.
Sorry.
It's like a, that's like a new term.
Okay.
But it's like, you know, just like confidence.
Like, you know.
They got to get more Riz.
Yeah.
Isn't that easy to say, though?
Oh, just be more confident.
I don't know.
Maybe guys should be more.
You said guys are choosy with who they fuck.
So it's like.
No, women are choosy with who they fuck.
But I thought guys were, because like with the body count thing, guys were choosy.
So how is it that they're fucking just any woman on the chart?
Well, I would say, so with a body count thing, I would say men that don't have a lot of options, they will partner with a girl who has a high body count because they can't do any better.
But when it comes to relationships, yes, it is.
Men do value low body count a bit more.
So they are a bit more choosy when it comes to who they're going to marry and who they're going to have relationships with.
But still.
Yeah, I think it just depends on how attractive you are at the end of the day.
We have another chart too, Eric.
Does they have an attractiveness chart?
Also, when you just feel like it's easier for women or men to date rather than like hook up, they're two very, very different things.
Zero to Kim.
I don't think it's easier for men or women to date.
It's still easier.
I think for women to like hook up with someone, but I don't think it's easier for women to date.
I mean, I've had really bad luck.
So I am clearly a woman.
I got asked if I was a man one time.
What?
Recently.
By who?
Some guy's having a heat.
He swiped him and said, are you a girl?
And I was like, do I look like a man?
He's like, I don't know.
It's 2022.
And I was like, the audacity to ask you.
He's like, what's your pronouns to it?
Yes.
No, it's not rude.
Eric, it's in the infographics folder.
It's called OKC Message.
I was quite offended.
Fuck.
But, I mean, I sort of agree with you, but I would say that actually dating is still easier for women.
Not to the degree that getting late is, but it's still easier for women.
I agree.
But they're two different things, but definitely a lot of people.
Anybody disagree if you disagree for it.
Eric, were you able to find it?
What's it called?
OKC MSG.
Entertain me.
You got it?
Yeah, just resize it before you switch over.
Oh, there we go.
How do you scientifically measure attractiveness versus recipients' attractiveness?
Who made this iPhone?
Message multiple times.
I don't know if you guys are familiar with the dating app OKCupid.
This is from.
That's like a Millennium app now.
A what?
It wasn't even older.
It was a website.
It's that old.
It's still a dating app.
It used to be a website.
But it was a website.
You're right.
old people yeah so this is actually probably it's old school So this data, I mean, it's probably a couple years old, but I mean, it's still, it's actually probably worse now in today's day and age than it was back then.
But it's from OKCupid.
This is data from them.
So what, in terms of the attractiveness component of this discussion, number of messages received versus recipients' attractiveness.
The dark blue is female.
The light blue is male.
So the most attractive men in terms of messages received is about commensurate with like an average looking woman.
So an average looking woman is getting the equivalent attention that a very, very attractive guy is getting.
I think women are just less likely to like make the first move.
This is what this graph is showing.
Just tossed around.
I'm not saying like you're completely incorrect.
I don't know enough about the subject, but I'm just saying like correlation does not exactly equal causation in all cases.
And like I think a lot of the times like a girl wants to feel special.
She wants a guy to make the first move.
It's not necessarily that like, oh, I'm a guy and it's harder.
Like it's just a bad mentality to have, I think, where it's just like it's important to make the first move and be polite to a woman you're trying to court, you know?
Do you want a guy to make the first move with you?
Of course, but I'm not speaking for all women.
No, but I'm talking about you.
Yeah, of course.
Okay, just really quick around the panel, just yes or no.
Would you prefer the guy to make the first move?
Do you want the guy to make the first move?
I could go either way.
Yes.
It's been both ways.
Yes.
Yes.
Both ways.
I'll make the first move.
Okay.
So most of you said you'd prefer the guy to make the first move.
But I thought you guys believed in equality.
What?
Except when it comes to dating?
No, no, no.
Yeah.
Not at all.
That's just my preference.
Like, you said, I don't know.
Like, I just have that preference.
No, you can have your preference.
How is that not equal to want a guy to approach me?
Like, I believe in equality.
I just like to, you know, be with a guy who's confident.
I think approaching me first shows that you're confident.
It shows that you're willing to take that approach.
But like, I don't think you're any less of a man if you don't approach me.
You're just not my type romantically.
And even still, if I have to make the first move in a case, that's not going to completely delineate a guy's attractiveness to me.
Wait, but you just said that if the guy's not confident enough to approach you, that's probably not the type of guy that you're going to be doing.
It probably isn't, but like, I'm sure there are certain cases, like, not everything's black and white.
Like, I'm sure there are times I've approached a guy and like I've actually ended up liking him like for whatever reason.
Like maybe like he just didn't see me.
Maybe I saw him first.
Like, I don't know, but like I do prefer for a guy to approach me first.
Like it's just nice like knowing like a guy saw me and like thought I was special enough to talk to.
Like that's like it means a lot.
It's flattering.
Yeah, it's very, it's very flattering.
How many times have you approached a guy?
Oh, I don't know.
I don't keep track of that.
Zero?
Not zero.
I'm sure I've given a guy a phone number.
That's the guy I've been in a.
Wait, you've given the guy a phone number?
My phone number.
Did he approach you though?
I mean, so I was a cashier, so he kind of had to, so he had a chicken sandwich.
A chicken Sammy.
Yeah, right.
Like, just to be quite frank.
So I guess, you know, I guess that would count as me approaching him because I did give him my number and he didn't have to approach me.
Well, there was, well, so, I mean, he was ordering a sandwich, right?
Well, that doesn't, he didn't approach me like, oh, I want to talk to this girl.
He was kind of like, I want to.
But he gave you his number?
No, I gave him my number.
Oh, you thought you thought he was.
This was a while back, but like, it still happened.
Like, that's an example.
But you thought you thought he was attractive.
You thought he was good looking.
And boy, did I think wrong.
Yes.
Uh-oh, rip.
I'll go up to Moin.
Really quick, what happened there?
You know, he was just too old for me at the time.
I was still in high school and like, oh, well, I was, you know, a senior and he was like, you know, a few years older where it wasn't like anything scary, like a 30-year-old man.
But like, you know, when you're that young, like, I feel like it's important to like enjoy your childhood and like be around people who are your own age and like, you know, not try to grow up too fast.
And like, even though this is a few years back, like, I still think that even though I'm not with that person anymore, like, I learned a lot of important lessons from that relationship.
That's like the best part of it, you know, moving on and learning, right?
Yeah.
No mistakes.
Full growth.
I personally, I mean, I'll like come out to like Ivy and like go party.
I will walk up and down DP and like compliment any guy.
I really like that.
You go manhunting.
Oh, that's so fun.
I'll be walking past the cute guy and if I was like, go say hi to him.
I'll say top on the phone like, hey, you're cute.
You know, I'm drawing away all the time.
And wait, you're 19?
Okay.
What?
What?
What is it?
Okay.
So kind of on the topic of that, has a guy with a blue check mark ever slid into your DMs?
Yes.
Yes.
Let's start here.
Sorry one more time.
I got you.
Has a guy with the blue check mark ever slid into your DMs?
Yes.
Multiple guys with blue check marks?
Three.
Three?
Who?
I'm not going to say.
That's fine.
Yes.
How many?
I don't keep count.
You've had like dozens of guys with blue check marks slide into your DMs?
Not dozens, but like more than three or four.
Okay.
I think it's that pink car of yours.
Is that actually your car?
Oh my god, no, I fucking wish.
Oh, I thought that was a good idea.
It just matched my shirt.
I don't want to look like a big one.
One day, one day you'll have one.
One day.
When you're a rich, successful attorney.
That's what I'm saying.
Dismantling the patriarchy one lawsuit at a time.
Okay.
So do you want to say who they are?
Oh, no, of course not.
Can you guys say like athletes, musicians?
Don't say their name.
Just like basketball player, NFL.
One basketball player.
Yeah.
Well, NBA.
Technically, not like a player, but in the basketball, like a coach realm.
For the NBA.
Yeah.
The commissioner.
No.
Okay, fair enough.
What about you?
Rappers?
Sports player, rapper.
What sport?
Baseball.
Ah, the lowest of the I know, right?
Okay, like, I wasn't going to say it.
Like, I don't, I'm not a fan, but I'm just saying.
It could have been shuffling, you know.
Oh, my God.
It could have been cool.
I guess it could have been worse.
It could have been worse.
It could have been lacrosse.
Like, nobody's like, I don't know.
Okay, anyways, I'm a fucking fucking over-the-hill YouTuber.
What am I talking about?
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah.
It was an athlete.
You had a blue guy.
Yeah.
Blue guy.
A blue guy.
I'm blue.
Don't boo.
Okay.
Pretty much.
What sport?
What league?
Basketball.
Slide into your DMs.
By the way, and just want to make for romantic.
It's clear he's romantically interested, I guess.
He was from Europe, so I don't think he was with the NBA, but he was in.
What did he say?
Just want to hang out.
You said a basketball?
Yeah, because he was in a traveling team.
No, I don't think it was NBA.
It must have been European, yas, because he was freakishly tall, but.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Convenient.
Okay.
What about you?
Like you did a few days ago, so I guess that counts.
No, no, but that was from the whatever account to you to be.
Well, that was a blue check mark in my DMs, bitch.
You didn't fucking spell it until just now.
I mean, we're talking.
Okay, we invited Danny.
You're her friend.
I know.
We sent you the show invitation.
Yeah, no, no, no.
We're talking about that.
I haven't, but I've also been with the same person for the past 13 years on and off again.
So it's not like I'm trying to get the blue check marks in there, baby.
Tim McGrail says, Tim McGrell says Anna and Brian should have their own podcast.
Anna.
Anna?
Fuck out of me.
Jesus, I keep butchering it.
Which one?
I don't know.
Anna.
I'm down to have you come back on, but I feel like I pissed you off thoroughly, so I don't know if you'd.
Well, thank you.
I'm flattered.
I think you should.
I'm down for whatever.
This just takes.
This is so long.
I'm tired.
We're going to wrap up.
20, 30 minutes, I reckon.
He's so funny.
Me, never.
No blue check marks?
None.
Once.
Yeah.
What?
What's the story?
I said once.
Oh, one time.
Okay.
Rapper?
It was just like a musician.
I didn't even recognize him, so I'm not even going to lie.
How many followers?
Like a couple thousand?
I don't know.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Not like.
Job of the hut.
Yeah.
I mean, sorry, Jubilee.
Sorry, that's her Instagram handle.
I've had a few.
One stands out more than the other just because I knew who he was.
The other ones, they have like a few hundred.
They'll have like a few, like, they'll have like 15, 20,000 followers, but they're still verified.
I have one.
He's a rapper.
He did a lot of like TikTok, like popular, like really popular songs.
I got his number.
Some other, like, did you guys?
No, I'm glad I didn't.
Okay, nice cool.
Good times.
You got some videos to react to here.
Eric, good sir.
I had to make sure you're if I actually did nothing.
All right, so we're gonna do hmm which one?
Uh, yeah, we'll do not dating, I guess.
That one, you know what?
I realized people aren't even dating anymore, just talking, catching feelings, sleeping together, and ending up in situationships.
That's it, okay.
Any uh response to that?
She was really hot.
Yeah, I couldn't even concentrate.
I was like, I was like, respectfully, whoever that is.
Okay, they her DMs are open, I guess.
Okay, Jesus Christ.
Okay.
What was she talking about?
You might have to re-watch it.
Yo, chat, what's going on with Tasha, by the way?
Who was talking about?
Did she someone told me that?
Uh, did she delete her OF?
Anyways, whatever.
Tasha.
Whatever.
Can the chat be funny again, please?
What?
They're not being funny?
No, they were for sometimes.
You guys are funny, but sometimes you aren't.
Sometimes you're just mad.
Like, sometimes they're like kind of like rude, but sometimes whoever said pick Anna or Lisa was hella funny.
Like, she is.
Pick it too, girl.
You have to pick one.
Like, period.
Too many first names.
Yeah, what age is.
Okay.
So you guys just weren't even, you just thought she was hot.
So I totally agree.
I 100% agree.
Yeah.
That's all I could say.
I couldn't.
I agree with it.
What do you agree with?
That's true.
I mean, I've, I definitely under, like, that cycle I've definitely have been in.
Um, not recently, not recently, but in the past, I've definitely been in those like the same cycle over and over again.
It gets to where it's like weird, where you don't know where what you guys are, but you're hanging all the time, sleeping together, whatever.
And then it doesn't, and then it gets to the question of what are we?
And then they freak out and they're like, oh no, like, I don't want anything.
But then they've been hanging out with you constantly and like doing couple of things.
And then when you ask the question of like, what are we?
Then they kind of just stop, at least for me personally.
But it's the same cycle over and over again.
Never goes further.
Vanessa, i've like never had to ask, um.
It's kind of been like, if we're, if you're treating me as a friend, i'm gonna treat as a friend until you say we're dating or we're in a relationship, that's what it is.
Okay this, this clip is terrible.
Let's pull up another one boring.
Uh, let's do um, let's do okay.
The e d one Eric, just the one right above.
Yeah oh, there you go.
So does it take two and a half months to get a consistent erection, or two and a half months until you even feel comfortable Engaging in sexual intercourse?
No, I would say two and a half months for consistence.
Consistency, like I know I can be.
It's embarrassing.
It's frustrating.
It's humiliating.
It only happens when I really care about the woman, so that's the crazy thing.
Like, if it's just if I'm in Vegas and I had a one-night stand, I'm Superman, which is weird.
And it's wild because there's so many things.
There's so many factors to it.
The first factor is.
Okay, anyways, he's just saying that he's hard.
I guess he gets ED and it doesn't get better until he's had more sexual experience with a girl.
So he's saying like two or three months in.
So is it a rap if like the first time or the first few times you hook up with a guy, like he struggles in the bedroom or the sex isn't that great?
Unfortunately, I'm going to say yes, because sex is like super important for my relationship personally.
So I think that would definitely put a damper on.
Unless it was like something they were open to discussing immediately, I'd say it is an issue.
What do you mean, discussing immediately?
Like getting on Viagra or.
I mean, just like having a conversation about like, hey, like, I have this thing where I can't really get it up, but I do find you attractive.
I mean, like, I feel like if he's open about talking about it, it's definitely more of a green flag.
Okay.
You know, if a guy, like, I mean, sex isn't everything to me, but like, it is important where it's like, if a guy performs bad once, I'll give him another chance.
But if he's consistently performing in a way where it's like our bodies are obviously not made for each other, then like, yeah, like, it's obviously not meant to be.
Okay.
I actually used to have a problem with like getting aroused with some partners because I had such a bad porn addiction.
Nice.
And that definitely, like, I couldn't, like, nothing would make me happy unless I was literally in front of my computer or on my phone just looking up random different shit.
So it definitely affected a lot of my relation, like, maybe relations.
So I don't watch porn anymore.
But now I have a really healthy relationship with somebody who's, you know, accepted of that of me, you know, because we've talked about it.
So I guess I'm the other, I'm the guy, the person with the like erectile dysfunction, you know, in that situation.
Yeah.
Analysa, there's somebody in the chat here.
They say, do you want to fire some shots back at a zombie?
I mean, I don't know.
I think I deserve a treat.
I don't mind being compared to a poodle.
Like, I think they're pretty cute.
I think that's kind of goofy.
All these comments are so funny.
I'm definitely firing off some comments.
Look, I got some haters.
I got some lovers.
Either way, you're talking about me, aren't you?
You're still watching.
Holler.
Oh, snap.
Okay.
Did anyone else want to give their reaction to it?
Sure, why not?
Like, I don't base my relationships on sex, so I don't think that'll be like a rule breaker.
Like, sorry, like a deal breaker.
Like, I'll probably talk about it, but I would definitely not judge him for it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I was in this situation with my last relationship.
We like didn't really have sex for that reason.
Definitely affected me a lot.
Because I thought it was like my problems.
I'm like, okay, what's wrong with me?
He's not attracted to me, which kind of ended up the freezing.
But yeah, it definitely affected me a lot.
We definitely talked about it and he wanted to do something about it, but we broke up.
But definitely takes a toll on like how you think about yourself, I'd say.
Is the only problem the dick in this situation?
Like he can just not get his dick hard for like two months.
Was that?
Yeah, I mean, I guess he's consistently fucked the same girl and not, and and when he likes her too much, he said it's the problem.
I could relate to that.
Well, like then, as long as he's got like, you know, like he chews a lot of gum, like he really knows how to like use he needs to jaw and get down where it matters, I don't know that it would matter as much because like eventually right, like as long as he can be munching in the meaty middle part when he can't get his dick hard, you know,
so for like a month and a half he can just eat you out and then after two months, maybe he can finally fuck you and you're just like, I guess I'm a really pretty princess this whole time right yeah, so maybe it works, maybe he'll find his princess word.
Okay, we're gonna do one last video here.
Entertain me.
Um, let's see um, go up a bit.
Let's do uh, the Michael Sartain clips.
I guess we'll just do that one.
The dudes who I know, who are so good on the first date you know why they're so good on the first date.
They've been on a lot, because they keep getting fired.
The guy who's really good at the job interview.
And you know why he's a good at job interview?
Because he keeps getting fired and he's really he keeps going to job interviews the guy who's good on the first date.
He's good because he keeps going on first dates.
If I introduce you to this dude and he's like nervous, he's fumbling, he's like I never, I don't really know what to order here Mastros, I don't, i've never been here before.
And he's fumbling.
He's a divorcee.
He never cheated on his wife.
The mother makes, you know, 350 a year.
He has a, has a neurosurgeon, but he just doesn't know how to talk to you.
He's never, he's never been on seeking arrangement.
He doesn't even know how to send her, doesn't know how to do any of this stuff.
And he and he all he wants is a woman to just like share his life with and spoil the out of her.
And he's fumbling and he's nervous and he's the greatest guy you ever met.
And you come back to your girlfriends and you're like yeah, he was just kind of weird, I just wasn't really feeling it.
And then you go your toxic ex that night right after your date.
I've seen it happen so many times.
Yeah, you can't tell me, it's not real, it is real for sure.
And that perfect dude, for you you didn't give him a chance.
You didn't give him a chance because he wasn't exciting enough.
So i'm telling you, for me it's a body type.
There's a body type where I just literally can't say no, say no to all right, we don't care dude um, so well about, we don't care about the body type thing but um, what do you guys think about that?
Because yeah, go ahead um, first dates.
I've had amazing first dates and relationship I don't say ended well but um, I think first dates are really important.
I don't, if you're like really, let's say like easy going on the first date does not mean you've been on a bunch of first dates over and over and over again.
I don't think that like one amazing, great first date.
I don't think that determines that this guy is on a repeat of going on first dates.
I my first date on sunday, but was?
I think what he's trying to get at is that if a guy is nervous on the first date, maybe he's not coming across as super confident, like maybe he doesn't have a lot of experience going on dates.
A woman's gonna see that and what.
There's also the whole like the click chemistry connection thing.
A guy who's nervous on the first date is Not gonna elicit the click, whatever the fuck that bullshit means from a woman.
I mean, the it's fucking bullshit.
It's the first date I just went on on Sunday, like they're like, he didn't pay for the first like the food or whatever.
And like he definitely was really nervous.
And I talked to him about it afterwards because I was like, hey, like, I honestly couldn't tell if you're feeling me or not.
Like, I don't know, should we continue this or whatever?
And he said he was just quiet, but definitely first dates are like the biggest first impression on me.
If you have a great first date and blah, blah, like I'm gonna continue to talk to you.
But if it's like kind of dry and not really flowing as well, then I'm probably not going to continue.
Unless we talk about it, I'm like, hey, is everything okay?
Unless I like address it.
But if it's just kind of quiet and like weird and just not matching right, then I'm not going to really continue it.
I don't know.
I feel like the shy, like the most like nervous guys, like I get nervous on first date.
If I really care about the guy, I'll definitely get nervous.
And it's always like, I think it's really cute when a guy gets nervous and he really cares and he like puts an effort whether he's confident or not.
If he's like invested into the date, I think that's amazing.
I'm going to add on to that.
I think it's a difference between being nervous and not flowing as well as you should together.
I think that's a pretty big difference.
I mean, I personally am not nervous on a first date.
I will talk your ear off and have a great time.
But I think there's a difference between being really nervous and like really excited about it or you're just kind of quiet and not really feeling it.
Yeah, like two people can click and like they can still be nervous or timid.
But yeah, just because you're shy doesn't necessarily mean that like it's not going well.
Yeah.
I've also learned that having like almost no expectations or just like for the first date, like you're just meeting this person.
So like having no expectations for both of you is a safer way.
Okay, if you're going to read the chat, at least be visible to the camera.
Go ahead.
Yeah, that's basically it.
Just having you're just like behind the microphone.
I'm sorry.
I'll sit up straight.
It's my bad.
You're still blocked, but go ahead, whatever.
Go ahead.
No, that's basically it.
Just having no expectation, just kind of walking away with, like, well, I mean, just another person that I met.
What was the question?
I'm sorry.
I know you have to play the sound of five.
Just if the difference between a guy going on first dates over and over again, or a guy, or I want to say, just basically reaction to the video.
Like a guy being nervous or something.
It's just the video.
I'm nervous.
As long as he's nice to me and polite.
Earlier, you said you want a guy who's confident.
Yeah, but I think it's like, you know, I can't really, I feel like it's wrong to me to be like, oh, if a guy ever gets nervous and he's out of my life.
Like, even confident guys get nervous.
We all get nervous.
I'm confident and I get nervous.
Like, I feel like, I don't know, it'd just be wrong of me to say, like, oh, this person gets nervous around me.
Like, boo.
Like, I think it's sweet as long as they don't let their anxiety ruin our time together.
That's me.
I'm the anxiety person.
That just ruins everything.
I mean, you can say that.
Sabotage.
Here, I'll let you guys distract.
Going back to the video, he said that, you know, the guys who are really good on the first date are more often the guys who are failing at relationships, and that's why they go on a lot of dates.
I can't really, like, speak from opinion on that one.
I don't, I haven't had that many first dates, I suppose.
I've been in one really long-term relationship, and now I'm in another one.
I think that the first date needs to be fun.
And you guys need to definitely, you'll get a sense of how you communicate and have a good time together.
I agree with a lot of what you said.
I don't think it's an issue if he's nervous, but I do think if it's an issue, if the nervousness leads to really uncomfortable situations that I just wouldn't feel comfortable in.
Agree.
I don't know.
I mean, you hear a lot of women say, oh, I didn't feel the chemistry.
I didn't feel the spark.
I didn't feel the lightning.
I didn't feel the butterflies.
I didn't feel the click, right?
So if a guy is not on point on a first date, it's a rap for the vast majority of women.
Like, it's just a rap.
You guys can say, oh, if he's nervous, it's okay.
I'm always really nervous.
So, like, I always feel like yeah, but that's not gonna, that's not really gonna be a detriment to you on a date.
I mean, it was before.
I mean, I've liked someone really, like, a lot, and they were just like, yeah, you're just too anxious for me as a person.
But, like, men, we don't really look to women like, oh, she's got to be.
Like, a woman being confident is not very low or even non-existent on the totem pole of what guys find attractive in women.
Like, probably, if you ask most women, the number one thing they'll say is like confident or even funny.
That's another one.
Funny.
Those two, confident and funny, men, we don't care about either of those.
What's the men looking for in that situation?
In what situation?
For a woman to be like first date.
The first date.
Yeah.
I would need to be with someone funny because I'm just.
Men and women want different things.
Yeah, yeah.
What would you want?
Ideal first date, personality-wise, to have a great first date that means something.
You're not like, eh, this is a boring first date.
I'm not going to talk to this person again.
So there's a couple things.
So, and you mentioned sex, right?
Like, if sex is all you're offering, sex is all I want.
I definitely look for more than that.
And I'm actually not interested in casual sex at all.
So I don't like one-night stands.
If I sleep with someone, I want to continue seeing them.
But so I would say women who are pleasant, who are feminine, who are cooperative, who cooperative.
You know what?
Let me pull up the list.
I know.
I know, like, I saw someone say something.
What are you doing?
I saw someone say something about having a sexy dress.
No, no, like collaboratively.
And then later, you know.
If you don't have a connection with someone, then it's not going to work.
Right.
Spark, I mean, that's biggest.
A spark is a connection.
You have to have connection with somebody for it to work out and continue.
Uh-oh.
Which I guess is like woman code for just a feeling.
I put this feeling about it.
No, that's that's actually that's a good point.
That's a good point.
I mean, I put the spark in the same realm as like astrology and love.
That's probably like it.
My sense of what women mean when they say the spark or chemistry or whatever is that guy is so attractive.
It's basically a guy is more attractive than you.
That's my view.
That could be physically attractive or it could be some sort of status or financially well-off or personality traits, charisma, these sort of sorts of things.
But like a super funny, ugly dude ain't gonna do it for you.
Who said that?
I mean, for some women, it might, but I think that physical attraction is a thing that Pete Davidson is like proof that's not.
Yeah, but I agree.
There's some basic level of attraction that has to exist.
Pete's saying I would marry her right now.
Yeah.
Okay, but he's funny, but he's ugly.
But you want to marry him.
I think he's attractive.
Would you marry him if he wasn't funny, though?
If he was just a normal boy guy, I would marry him.
I think he's really funny.
Y'all wild.
I've seen like if you see people down here, looking at the guys I've dated, you deserve better.
You're hot.
She got like three Pete Davidson's backups.
Like, go outside.
Okay, so you were asking about traits.
Oh my goodness.
You were asking a bit about traits.
So I can tell you some traits that men find attractive.
Stop trying to read this.
Get out of here.
Paragraphs.
So I'll tell you, I will tell you some traits that men find attractive in women.
So here we go.
Feminine fidelitis and fidelitis from the jump.
So sexual faithfulness.
This is kind of related to body count, because a woman who's promiscuous is going to be viewed as you're just unattractive if like, you're going on it, at least for me.
If I'm going on a date with a girl and she starts telling me oh, I've been on four dates this week, I'm like okay, that's just rude.
So I'm not.
If it's the truth, it's the truth.
But like, if a girl tells me she's got two dates scheduled for the weekend, three dates, I'm gonna be like okay, there's no future here.
I might try to fuck you and then maybe you can redeem yourself.
But like you've already just put yourself in a date.
I've been on dates with girls where they're, they're open about it.
They tell me like hey, I'm calling respect, they're honest, you know.
I mean you can move on.
You guys aren't in a relationship.
Yeah, but I mean it's not right to say, but it's not a bad thing if you've got a.
Well, she's free to say it, but it's just unattractive.
Yes, definitely.
Yeah, I can see that.
Yeah, because that's your preference, wait.
So just like a quick cue, oh sorry no, go ahead, go ahead.
So like I'm not like trying to like corner you or anything, but like do you think it's like fun, like you know, like you're single right and you're like trying to talk, maybe like you're on Tinder or something I don't know if you use it but like you're probably going on like a few dates with different girls, like I'm not saying you're sleeping with a ton of people, but like you might be like you know, talking to a few different girls at once.
Like if a girl's doing the same thing, like is that unattractive to you or is that like early enough in the relationship for it to be like okay to you?
Well, I mean, there's an assumption there that I'm talking to a whole bunch of women.
I'm incredibly busy, busy with my business.
So I'm actually, have you ever, like you know, like before you like really get to know someone?
Like there might be like a few women you're interested in, like you, you know you might not be entertaining them, but you're interested in them sure sure yeah, I mean that's kind of what I mean.
Well yeah, that's occurred in the past, but I mean I would say, generally speaking, I I'm, I'm very busy with what I do and I, I there's some guys.
I mean I've tried it to kind of juggle a couple women like it's just I prefer like one one girl.
I know some guys are gonna not approve of that in the chat.
I mean I've had a decent amount of experience and just it's just time-wise, it's just I have actual shit I want to achieve, so I'm like it's just too much to be juggling multiple women.
That's my view anyways.
It's a lot of work in your opinion, since you've been doing this with a lot of, because all of your videos have a bunch of girls, do you have like a different outlook on women now than you did even a year ago?
Like because of the podcast?
Yeah, because of the questions that you get and like you know, do you?
Are you comparing girls?
Like, are you, you know in avert?
Yeah, I mean i've known these truths for for a while.
I mean the one thing that's rubbed me the wrong way is a lot of.
I mean i've had this experience with dating.
Um, a lot of women Are incredibly flaky, to the point where it's rude.
Like, I've had, we were supposed to have two other girls tonight, for example.
Luckily, no one did it.
No one no-showed today, but the past 10 shows, we've had at least two no-shows.
So, when I say no-show, no-call, no-show.
So, they don't even let me know that they're not going to come on.
That's why I got to do it.
Don't do that, people.
So, I mean, and I've had experience.
Luckily, my dating experiences, I've had one girl stand me up.
So, she just never told me she's just not showing up.
I went there.
She wasn't there.
But I definitely get a lot of flaking romantically.
So, I'd say like probably 30 to 40 to 50% of the girls where if I set up a date, it's not even a 24-hour notice thing.
It's like two hours before.
Oh, I got a headache.
And it's like, that's a wash for my night.
You're letting me know two hours before.
Like, I'm not a chick.
I'm not going to be able to get another girl on a Friday that night.
Do you think it has anything to do with your social media status?
Like, do you think they go looking up who you are and it kind of just changes them?
There might be some girls.
There might be some girls that are put off by my but I mean, I just started the podcast.
It's only been three months.
So, okay.
So, yeah, the podcast is new, but I was doing the pranks before.
But honestly, I just think you can call me.
I mean, it happens to be the case that most of the guys, most of the men in my, this is going to sound like I'm the men in my life don't flake on me.
That sounds weird.
My male friends don't flake on me.
Bros before hoes, man.
I got you.
But even if I'm inviting guys onto the podcast, they don't flake.
Girls flake.
They'll flake an hour before.
That sucks.
Also, for girls, especially if they've never been on the podcast, it definitely is nerve-wracking.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I'm sure most of it is they gotta be like, I feel like next and I would definitely be way better prepared.
I'm definitely sure most of it, like most of the time, the girls flake, it's cold feet.
But I mean, you know, I had one example.
I specifically set out a day for a group of five girls.
They all wanted to come on the show.
So I said, well, I can't get you on a Tuesday or Thursday, but I'll set aside a day for you.
I'll do a Sunday show for you.
Because it was a big group.
They all wanted to come on the show.
So I set it up.
I was like, okay, we'll do a Sunday for you.
They all canceled two hours before the show.
I was already in the studio getting set up.
On its own Dave.
And the whole exception.
And the whole thing.
Not only that, though, two of them said, oh, I've got to study for this thing.
This test came up.
But I only knew two hours ago.
And then, yeah, and then two of them said, oh, we have, I don't know, one of them said they had a headache.
I look at their Instagram stories later that night.
Oh, of course.
Not that.
On a boat.
It's studying so hard, Brian.
So hard.
On the boat at a party.
So it's not like this handle in my hand.
I'm stunning.
No, but that's what I'm saying.
Is like people, we were having this discussion last show.
People's words don't mean anything anymore.
You often hear women complain, oh, guys don't like to commit.
Bro, you guys flake like fucking crazy.
I do.
I'm just gonna be like, these kids just be committing.
We all have tattoos.
Motherfuckers.
Like, I'll flake if I'm really low.
But I have really anxiety.
Like, if I know, I'm like, okay, I don't think I'm gonna be comfortable.
Or yeah, I guess cold feet.
Look, I get it.
It happens.
It's 2022.
People have cell phones, so it's very easy to get.
So you think you can just fucking peece out at any minute.
Yeah, that's true.
No, it's not even disappearing.
No, I'm 33, right?
So if I had plans with someone back in the fucking 90s, they stuck to that shit.
Early 2000s.
They knew your mom's fucking phone number.
They showed up at your house at the given time.
If someone said they were going to be somewhere, they would be there.
Yes.
Yeah.
And if they didn't, they would be incredible.
Something's wrong.
Like, you're like, fucking call the hospital.
Like, they must have gone off the road.
Now that you mentioned that, like, I've noticed on dates, like, a lot of guys need reassurance that I'm going to be there.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, I need to confirm.
Like, I will confirm, like, confirm.
So I do that to guys.
I do that to guys constantly.
Oh, yeah, you don't want to show up and then get flaked on.
Especially if I'm going to get ready, I'm going to look good, and you're picking me up.
You better be responding.
Especially some guys just take forever to respond.
If I'm getting ready, I'm spending my time to get ready and like look good or whatever.
It goes both ways.
I'm saying like, like, it's a dick move if guys flake too.
Yeah.
Like, they will stop responding and then last minute it'd be like late.
They'll be late.
Like, oh, sorry, like, can't come.
I'm like, okay, well, I got ready.
So, I'm just waiting.
I've never been flaked on, but I have been catfished.
Yikes.
That's worse.
That's why I don't do dates.
Yeah, it was literally so scary.
By the way, I just want to add to the flaking thing.
Unless you want to continue with your catfish story.
So the whole flaking thing.
Like, I'm 33.
So most of the women I'm dating, I want to say our mid-20s to early 30s.
So these are women who are like, they're not 18 and 19.
Like, they've been on dates.
They're professional career women.
So, like, to me, it's kind of like it's, it's one, if I was going on a date with a girl who's 19, who's kind of like bubble.
You'd almost forgive it more.
I would forgive it more if she was a bit younger because it's just like, but you're like, I've had professional women who will cancel like two hours before the date.
Oh, no, that just rubs me the wrong way.
I mean, whatever.
It is what it is.
Honestly, I don't blame you on that.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not right.
Either way.
Yeah.
I mean, if they have a legitimate excuse, like if they're sick, okay.
Are they really sick, though?
But like COVID, I guess.
But yeah, no, specifically for the show, just to answer your question, yeah, like that has definitely changed my view of things a little bit just because the amount of flakes we get.
Like if you let me know the night before, like, hey, you can't make it, it kind of throws a little bit, it throws a little.
It's a little time to find someone else.
Yeah, it throws a little bit of a wrench into my plans, but at least I can find someone.
But like a no-show, no call.
Like, I'm telling you, the past 10 shows, two girls every single time.
No, no call, no show.
Don't even let me know.
Also, with like my business, I get the same thing.
I will be getting.
Especially for you with your own.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm trying to make money here.
I mean, you're too.
Do you get like, do you ask for deposits?
No.
My website, it's weird with that.
But also, some girls don't have cards.
Like, a lot of my clientele is high schoolers, and they don't have a debit card or whatever to do the deposit.
So I'm just like, okay, let me just make it easy.
Since I do cash only, whatever.
But anyways, like, I will be setting up all day.
I'll be texting these girls the day before even.
I'll be like, hey, like, what do you want for your nails?
Let's just try to work this out.
Nothing.
I'm like, okay, let me wait it out a little bit.
Maybe they just didn't see it.
Text them the next day, blah, blah.
It would be like 11 a.m., like, noon or whatever.
I'm like, getting ready.
I'm setting up for their appointment.
And they just never respond ever.
And I'm ready to go.
That's messed up.
And I will even call them sometimes.
If I'm like, okay, they're really not responding.
They haven't responded once.
I will call.
If they don't call, I cancel them.
Like, hey, sorry, you can't come.
Like, even if you respond last minute, you're not coming.
And your nails look shitty anyway, bitch, because now you didn't joke.
Yeah, I've had multiple, like, they just never respond.
They never do.
They never, of course, never make an appointment.
It must be really stressful.
Oh, it's awful.
Also, some days, if it's like, okay, I'm going to end early, I'm okay with it.
Yeah.
But depending on the day, I'm usually pretty pissed.
I feel like for new clients, you should probably do that.
Some kind of like, even if it's a cash deposit, like I can, I don't know.
Total my house.
Something.
Blood pack.
I'm usually not too weird about it.
So just to get back to the traits thing, just to answer, I think your question, and then we'll finish up soup chats and then we'll wrap.
So you're asking for, or was it you who was asking for traits that I look for on the first date?
That was me.
You pull up your list.
Well, I'll give you the list.
I'll give you the list.
If you guys, this is, by the way, this is what I think.
This is a list that I believe of things.
Maybe they don't want everything.
A list of things that men are looking for in women.
So we were talking Fidelitus from the jump.
Peaceful.
Peaceful is a big one for me.
Peace.
I don't know.
I have a stressful.
I live a stressful life.
So if I can tell on the first date, like, she's going to have a mask.
If I can tell she's going to be a headache, like, I want a girl that brings me peace, you know.
Yo, respect.
So peaceful, pleasant, not quarrelsome, doesn't nag, gentle, innocent, modest, humble, demure, temperance, cooperative, submissive.
That word gets it.
What's demure?
Well, what do we mean?
Yeah, demure is kind of like, yeah.
Yeah, I know, because it's, if you think about it, it's like that masculine energy and that feminine energy.
You want that to complement each other and balance out.
So I totally get that.
Yeah.
I got more.
I got more of that.
I got more for you.
But yes.
Don't read my list.
How dare you?
But yes, to answer your question, Demure is kind of reserved, a bit modest, a bit shy.
Like I don't want...
Like conservative.
Like the opposite of most of the stuff.
Like, I'm sent to left.
I'll date a moderate chick.
Do you want a modest?
Isn't modest kind of like conservative?
Or what do you mean?
Do you mean politically conservative?
Modesty is conservative.
I mean, it's kind of like the same thing, but like conservative and like the fact like she's like very like inner clothing.
Inner, yeah, very modest.
Like, you know, in that way, conservative with herself.
To a degree, I think to a degree.
Sure, yeah.
I guess more modesty in her personality, like humble.
So I don't want a girl who's like, I'm a fucking queen.
I'm a bad bitch.
Treat me like a princess.
I don't want that.
I want just like a nerdy.
Check my nails.
I want a nerdy fucking STEM chick that doesn't party.
I thought you meant like you want a girl who like doesn't like dress, like, like who doesn't dress in like a certain way.
I thought that's.
Does she need a naughty lab coat?
I see this whole fantasy coming together.
I suppose.
I mean, I don't really care too much about how a woman dresses, but like you're going down there.
I'm going through the list.
There's some stuff in there.
Stop reading.
You're too specific.
Okay, follows your lead.
Dog drop it.
Preferably, by the way, this is not necessarily everything, you know.
You're not going to get all of these probably, but this is generally what men are looking for.
Youthful.
18 to 25 or in an age range capable of having children.
So not in the high-risk pregnancy age range.
18 to 35.
They call it geriatric pregnancy.
No, But like, that's a different thing.
Is that your preference, 18 to 25, and you're 33?
Would you date an 18-year-old?
I would date an 18-year-old.
I date a 19-year-old.
I date a 20-year-old.
18-year-old.
She just scooted in.
Okay, so you're.
I've dated, I've dated women.
So it's like 18 to 30.
I'll date.
I mean, I dated a woman recently.
I don't know.
It was a year ago.
Who's 45?
I'll date a woman who's older than me.
I thought you meant like that.
It was like your strict age range.
Yeah.
18 to 15.
No, I'd say.
Well, I'd say overall I do have a preference for say between like 18 to 25.
That's my preference.
But I would say the thing is, though, is I don't think I'm quite at the level yet, at least at my age, status-wise or finance-wise, where I can really pull it off.
So I'm dating, like, I'm just being honest.
Like, I don't, I'm working, you know, I need to lose like 20 pounds.
You know, I got a little, you know.
But the pod just started, so it's only not in the works.
But no, most of the women I did, I'd say, are like mid to late 20s to early 30s.
In that, like, in 30s, yeah.
So.
You like a good MILF?
What's that?
You like a good MILF.
No, I don't want to date a single mother.
No offense.
Oh, no.
I'm not single.
But no, I don't like that.
Thank you.
He makes money.
No, but like, I don't have kids, so I don't want to date a woman who has kids.
I might.
I've tried.
So I've tried to date women.
Well, there's maybe only one or two single mothers that I've dated, and it's just.
It's not the move.
Guys, don't date single moms.
So let me see.
Okay, I got more, guys.
I got more.
We don't need it.
Got more.
Honestly, they're not that unreasonable.
I got more.
I got more.
Oh, actually.
I think I'm pretty unreasonable.
So now I'm getting into some more physical stuff.
All that other stuff was kind of more like personality-wise.
Again, these are just things that men in general look for.
Not obese.
Fit.
Some men like petite women.
Some men like thick women.
Some men like big boobs.
Some men like small boobs.
I'm not going front.
I'm kind of team small boobs.
Okay.
Fat ass.
She's fat ass.
Does not take on makeup.
Wears no makeup.
Has long hair.
Shaves her body hair.
Large.
It's only so specific.
Let's keep going.
Talk about me here.
Large labia.
Oh.
I'm a fan.
My God.
He is specific.
That's what I'm saying.
Wave him away.
That was awesome.
Listen.
If women can like men with big dicks, men can like women with large labia.
My DMs are open.
Carol will be a tight pussy, though.
Sodom is a medical size.
Yes.
I guess type pussy is good too.
Okay, not a hoe.
Not the town bicycle.
So low body count.
No body count.
Doesn't post revealing photos online.
Oh.
For some men, that's their preference, you know.
Doesn't currently or in the past do any type of sex work.
Not a single mother.
And okay.
Doesn't party, doesn't go to bars, clubs, drinks in moderation, or doesn't drink at all.
Those are a few.
These are your preferences?
Yeah, these are his.
He said they have to meet all of these standards.
I don't know every single one.
Like, he's like, okay, tell her list.
If it's not you, then move on.
Yeah.
Oh, but okay.
Your unicorn's out there somewhere, Brian.
We'll find her.
Marriage and Mary.
It's like that unrealistic.
And her name was Madonna.
I prefaced.
Her name was Kiki.
Hold on, guys.
Let me just say this.
Kiki's a virgin.
No, she's not.
Allegedly.
The way that face went on.
Also, she's seen a few too many blowjobs for sure.
So I prefaced this before I gave this list.
This is what I believe.
These are some things that I believe men want.
Do they want all of those things?
It was quite an exhaustive list.
Some of them, there's some redundancies.
Like to be modest and humble, that's kind of a redundancy, for example.
So there are definitely, like I said, peaceful, pleasant, not quarrelsome, doesn't nag.
There's like four redundancies there.
But these are some things that men want in women.
I want a real nice gal.
And honestly, I'm waiting for a four.
Also, for me, so for me, 410.
What's your height?
Six feet.
Well, you got plenty of choices then because most women are not.
If women can have a height preference, so can I.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I just meant most women are choices.
Y'all want a six-foot dude?
I want a 410.
Yeah, but they make the.
You know what's even better?
Wait.
How dare you?
But you know what?
Wait, wait, no, that's too weird.
Brian, I'll back you up on that.
How is that?
Hold on, it's literally like an inch or two taller than a legal freaking midget because that's how tall a child is.
Midgets don't need love in two, huh?
I'll date a midget.
I think it's crazy.
I don't discriminate like you.
I will date midgets with big ladies.
That's crazy, but just because you won't date a dwarf or a little person, how dare you use the term midget?
That's incredibly offensive to the labyrinth.
Yeah, you're right.
I apologize.
I don't mean to be offensive.
I don't mean to be offensive, little people, or whatever term you prefer.
I'm sorry.
But here's the thing: I'll date a dwarf.
I'm not even, I'm not even capping.
I will date a dwarf.
They're hot.
And wait, I had a lot of people.
They're pretty thick, not gonna lie.
They are.
That's cool.
They qualify if they want.
They want baby arms for a handicap placard.
Oh, shit.
I mean, yeah, if they're 118.
Yes.
Good parking always.
Oh my gosh.
With full-functioning body.
Just saying.
No, they kick you off the ride.
It must be this tall.
But okay, I would say the big ones for me is peaceful.
Let's see.
Peaceful and honestly, like, doesn't party and doesn't go to bars and clubs.
Those are probably, like, that's a big one for me.
Yeah.
Because I don't really drink.
Occasionally, I'll have like a beer or a glass of wine, but I don't drink.
I don't party.
I don't go to bars.
I don't go to clubs.
How do you feel about drugs?
Like, do you smoke at all, or is that like in the same category?
What drugs?
You talk about it?
What's your vice?
I mean, like, obviously, not like a heroin addict, no offense, but like, you know, like someone who smokes weed, maybe.
I would date a girl who smokes weed so long as it wasn't like excessive.
Like if she was just like needed it, if she needed it.
But I don't have a problem with weed.
I personally don't smoke weed.
I don't do any drugs.
But if a girl smoked weed, that would be okay.
But if it was like interfering with her life, then it would be an issue.
Yeah, I'm not super pressed if she smokes weed.
I'd actually prefer a girl who smokes weed.
What does that even look like?
I know.
You've never heard of Audis?
No.
I'm just like, I just never thought about it.
Like, I don't know what to do.
Into the mic, into the mic.
I never thought about someone having a big or small labia.
Like, I wouldn't really think about it.
I feel like the point is it really misleads us here because there's a lot of like labia plasty up in there, too.
You know what?
I haven't.
I haven't seen that big of a variation, I guess.
There are 10,000 women a year who undergo labia place, and I think it's uncomfortable.
Is it like to make them bigger?
Oh, it could be whatever.
Because I can kind of understand, like, reconstructive if things are blown out.
But, like, being our sex.
Like, I think that's a good idea.
I mean, like, veteran down porn and stuff as well.
It's like, yeah, there's that.
And also, like.
Not me, but they say that.
Wait, guys, let's just one microphone at a time.
What was your question?
Yeah, because I was actually reading about it.
How it's like, based on what they see on porn, they always see like a specific type of vagina on porn sometimes.
Which is the labia plastic.
There's no specific vagina in porn.
I can let you know that right now.
Yeah, but like you mean like the standard, you know.
Unless they look at like big lips or whatever.
You have to like go into that category.
I do think that's changing a little bit, but yes, you do make a good point that I think it was more so a bit in the past that there was like they wanted women with who had Audis, so to speak, like in center folds and on Playboy magazines and all that shit.
But you can find, I know, I got collection, bro.
I've terabytes of hair.
Okay, anyways.
Just kidding.
But no, women are getting this surgery.
But it's also mostly, I think, there are definitely guys who will shame women.
Because I've had partners who are insecure about it.
They're like, oh, I'm like, babe, I got you.
Don't even trip.
Okay, anyways.
I'm insecure about that book.
That's what I'm saying.
You're insecure about what?
Everything.
You got a large labio?
What's up?
No, it's in general.
Making in front of a guy is scary.
Oh, for sure.
Word.
It's late.
I have to walk home.
We're rapping.
We're rapping very soon.
So last thing.
So of that list I read, did any of you guys have an issue with some of these preferences that men have in women?
No.
No.
Does he have to give head?
Who doesn't want to give you a fancy?
I mean, I didn't want to say head.
This is for men in general.
Submissive, maybe.
But do you think that list is crazy?
Does anyone think that's a good thing?
I mean, like, if that's what you're into, that's what you're into.
Yeah.
Like, as long as you're not expecting to do someone like, you know, like forcing someone into submission, which obviously I doubt you are, like, I think it's fine, you know, as long as it's all consensual and like everyone's happy in the relationship.
Well, I mean, being submissive.
Submissive is.
Whoops, sorry.
I mean, submissive is not something that's taken.
Submission is something that's given.
Yeah, of course.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like, as long as it's all consensual, like, I don't see anything wrong with someone's preference.
Like, as long as everyone's being safe and everyone's happy and on the same page.
Right?
You're into BDSM.
Right?
Okay, you know.
Did you just stereotype me?
I did stereotype you.
I think it was the elf ears that did it for me.
Maybe the horns, too.
What's up?
My eyes are bothering me.
Okay.
So, and I just so, you know, we talked about some men's preferences.
Now I want to talk about some women's preferences really quick.
We'll do super chats.
We'll wrap the show.
So here are some preferences I believe that women want.
A man who is tall, not balding, has a full head of hair, muscular, fit, strong, didn't skip leg day.
By the way, I just want to make something clear.
This is like an exhaustive list.
Not all women are going to want all these things, but these are some things that you hear women say that they like.
Nice forearms, wide shoulders, six-pack abs, large peen, clean-shaven, or some women, like a mustache or a beard, dresses nicely, who can protect her, who can provide, who's confident, masculine, leader, decisive,
dominant, ambitious, successful, financially well-off, matches or exceeds her income, matches or exceeds her level of education, matches or exceeds her socioeconomically, chivalrous, pays for dates, charming, witty, can carry a conversation, good communicator, treats you like a queen, treats you like a queen, princess, whatever, whatever that means.
Yeah, so you've never done that then.
Called a woman a queen?
No, no, no, treated them.
Nah, you're a court jester at best.
Not you.
I've been called a princess before.
What's up?
Those aren't all currents.
A few more.
Funny.
Funny, exciting.
Tells good stories.
Intelligent, competent, handy.
Doesn't live with his parents.
I live with my parents.
Okay, but you're young.
Doesn't play video games.
Doesn't watch porn.
Doesn't have a photo of him holding a fish.
Yes.
Yes.
That one right.
Surprisingly.
That's the one.
That's the one.
Everyone's on point.
That one's weird.
Okay.
Can fix things.
I'm officially can fix things.
Stoic, sexually experienced, great and bad, et cetera.
So these are just some things men want and some things women want.
Sorry, what is all the comment?
Long lists.
Okay, so I don't know if you guys want me to give your response to that.
Anybody?
I like guys who may pick three are silly and goofy and just like silly and goofy and fun and like kind of like big and tall and like just like a fun guy who's like dumb and goofy and tall and confident and good hygiene.
That's what he smells good.
For me it's just like if they give the same effort I give like that's enough.
Like that's just like the bare minimum.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm not sinky.
Last three super chats here.
All these women on the video.
Did we do this one?
The average man makes less than 60K a year e.g. thinking.
Then make more money.
I saw that come up a while ago.
I was like, well come by.
Richard Joy, I would like one final question.
All the girls' credit score in a capitalistic society.
Baby, you know I'm over 800, so fucking get fresh with me, Richard.
You want to go into business sometime?
I need investors.
Just right here.
Over 800, baby.
Okay.
Do you guys want to just share your credit score?
I don't have one.
I don't have one.
I'm working on it, but then again, I'm only 18.
Yes, I would have one since.
All right.
Brandon, what's up, man?
Salad City Rebel with the $10 Super Chat.
Shout out London.
So I just want to clarify that I used to be a stripper.
Ah, okay.
And that's for me.
That was your stripper name?
I miss you guys.
That's pretty old.
Oh, that's cute.
So killer costume, Halloween week at Santa Barbara Spearman, Brino.
Okay, the rock and roll.
Let's all go.
Boom.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want to, you know, we've talked a lot about a lot of things.
I want to give you guys one last opportunity.
Final thought or question?
Anybody?
Final thought.
Just like the final thought or question, I want to give you guys, yeah, if you want to talk about your experience on the show or if you have a final question you want to ask related to dating, I want to give you guys one last opportunity before we wrap.
Just for men, I just want to say it's very important to be kind and polite to women who you even aren't attracted to.
Yes.
Respect.
Respect.
Anything?
Anybody else?
I think you said it perfectly.
Yeah, I think that's it.
Yeah.
Let's end it there.
I think if we end it there, we're good.
Last question I have.
You.
Would you date a guy who wore an American flag hat?
No.
Specifically in that position?
Especially not in that position.
I gotta ask, given our previous.
We had it prepared the entire show.
Put it back on.
Keep it on.
Keep it on.
Yeah, I mean, Yankee Doodle.
Come in.
Whatever.
Come here.
Okay.
Oh, God.
I'm ready to go to sleep.
It's late.
I don't want to get mugged.
We're wrapping right now.
Okay, guys.
Well, I just want to give a big thank you to the wonderful panel.
It was a lively debate.
Thank you guys so much for coming.
I know we went a bit late.
Appreciate you guys with your patience here.
Thank you to you guys for watching.
You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
We will be live.
Actually, we're going to be live doing an interview tomorrow.
And then I think we're going to be doing a one-on-one interview on Sunday, maybe, but definitely tomorrow.
Otherwise, we'll be back with the dating talk show Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
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