Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #19

Feb. 2, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #19

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.
	We're coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
	Every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
	She's a bit shy.
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	There it is.
	So it is the first week of classes at UCSB, and apparently UCSB was ranked the number one party school in AmericaByNiche.com, which I think is probably not the case.
	But I know UCSB has a stellar party scene, but there's no way it's number one, maybe 10 or 20 years ago.
	But with students back, I thought it would be a great time to announce my Isla Vista Benevolent Reimbursement Fund.
	As you guys know, I'm a philanthropist.
	So if you live in Santa Barbara, Galita, Isla Vista, and you received any petty alcohol or party-related fines like open container of alcohol, under 21 in possession of alcohol, maybe you're throwing a party and received an amplified noise ordinance citation, DM me on Instagram at whatever, a photo of your citation and story, and you may be selected to have your pay your, sorry, to have your fine paid for in full by me.
	And I want to make it clear: we do not reimburse for DUIs or acts of terrorism perpetrated while drunk.
	DM at whatever.
	Lastly, if you missed it, Sunday I did an interview with the CEO of Next Life Sciences.
	They are developing Vasil Gel, a form of non-hormonal male birth control.
	Check it out.
	Anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and your school major, starting with you.
	My name is Nailani and I'm 18 and I'm not working right now and I'm a psychology major.
	At UCSP or?
	At SPCC.
	Okay.
	Okay, cool.
	Hi, I'm Aline.
	I'm a student.
	I'm a second year at UCSB and I'm a bio-major.
	Hi, I'm Sophia.
	I am also a second year at UCSB, and I'm an actuarial science major.
	My name is Giselle.
	I'm 20, and I'm a third year.
	I work at Blender's, the smoothie place, and I'm double majoring in psych and biological anthropology.
	I'm Maddie.
	I'm 21.
	I'm a fourth year, and I'm a poli-sci major.
	I'm Natasha.
	I'm 19.
	I'm not in school right now, but I do do content creation.
	Okay.
	By the way, someone in chat just here said Zach Frisbee said, Poor girls got bounced by UCLA.
	Do you guys have a response to that?
	I got rejected from UCLA, so yeah.
	Okay, so he was right.
	Yeah.
	All of you got rejected from UCLA.
	Okay.
	Cool, cool.
	So we're going to go around once more.
	By the way, guys, all the girls' Instagrams are in the description.
	Show them some love, give them a follow.
	So we're going to go around again: relationship status, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
	My relation status is kind of complicated.
	I'm not really going to elaborate on that.
	But I'm not on any dating apps.
	I feel like there was a third part of that question.
	Longest relationship.
	The longest relationship was a year.
	So you don't want to elaborate on the kind of complicated.
	No.
	Okay, she's got three boyfriends.
	Okay, you go ahead, Aline.
	I am not available.
	I'm with one guy, but it's just complicated.
	Sugar Daddy?
	No.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Go ahead, Aline.
	I'm not in a relationship.
	What was the other question?
	So, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on the dating app?
	Longest relationship, like a month.
	And then.
	I'm like, I have a dating app, but I don't really check it.
	So it has a count.
	Which one?
	Which dating app?
	Hinge, because I'm banned from Tinder.
	Why did you get banned from Tinder?
	What did you do?
	I didn't do anything.
	Who did you hurt?
	I promise I didn't do anything.
	Okay.
	You know what we should do?
	We should do a dating app review.
	Like review the panel's dating profiles.
	We'll do it next show.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	My current relationship status is I have a boyfriend.
	My longest relationship is two and a half years, and I'm not on a dating app.
	Is that your current?
	No, it was a past one.
	Okay.
	I am currently single.
	I have always been single.
	I've never had a longest relationship.
	And I, oh.
	And I'm on Tinder just for fun.
	So never had a relationship?
	Never.
	What's the longest period of time that you've seen a guy?
	Probably like a year, but not.
	Well, but whoa.
	A year, but not like exclusively.
	Your choice or his?
	Um, mutual.
	Okay.
	So was it inconsistent?
	Because a year is a fairly long time to see somebody.
	Yeah, it was inconsistent.
	It was like I went to college and then I would like come home and, you know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	My current relationship status is that I have a girlfriend.
	My longest relationship was like a year and a half and I'm not on any dating apps right now.
	So are you bi or are you lesbian?
	I'm bi.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was a year and a half, and I'm on Hinge, but I don't use it.
	Like, the profile's paused, you know?
	Allegedly.
	Okay, I want to go around just once more on this.
	So this isn't, it's kind of a dating app, but not really.
	Have any of you either been on seeking arrangements or had a sugar daddy at some point?
	I've never heard of seeking arrangements, and no.
	Okay.
	I've heard of it, but I'm not on it.
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	No.
	Besides the in and out?
	I've had offers, but I've just never taken them.
	You've had...
	You've had offers.
	Like on my DMs, they'll be like, yeah.
	I'm sure every girl has to be on the bottom.
	What about the In-N-Out guy?
	He's not a sugar daddy.
	He took you on the dates.
	How do you remember him?
	A person.
	Well, I remember our previous conversation, but I mean, a person your age could still be a sugar daddy.
	Oh.
	But it's basically just there's a five-year-old.
	Well, like, it's not an old man then?
	But they're just a daddy.
	Well, I would say generally a sugar daddy would be old, but they don't have to be old.
	So they just like buy me food or things for my company?
	Pretty much.
	Well, that's a good idea.
	So it could be your exact.
	You've had that.
	Yeah.
	I don't think, I'm pretty sure every girl has.
	Every girl's had that.
	Yeah.
	Have you had that?
	Wait, what was it?
	Like, some guy just buys you like stuff.
	Oh, I mean, you.
	Like, it doesn't have to be old.
	Sugar daddy is like when you're like doing something.
	Pull the microphone a bit closer towards you.
	Like doing something with a guy in exchange for money.
	So I never had that.
	Okay.
	I mean, I wasn't really like doing anything.
	I was just hanging out with him.
	But was it clear that the guy had a romantic interest in you?
	Yes, yes.
	Okay, but you didn't have a romantic interest in the guy.
	I didn't necessarily know.
	Okay.
	So have you ever had that?
	Where there's a guy, you know, he was your dinner guy.
	You had no interest in him, but he'd take you out to dinner.
	Yeah, he's actually on here right now.
	He's in the chat.
	Yeah, Harvey took me out to dinner one like a few times and no interest.
	You'll see him pop in there.
	Are you guys friendly or is he?
	Me and him are like best friends now.
	He's like one of my closest friends, yeah.
	So he's in the friend zone.
	Oh, he's been in the friend zone.
	Can we get a candle vigil in the chat for what's his name, Harvey?
	Harvey.
	Yeah, can we get either skulls or candles in the chat for Harvey?
	Sorry, Harvey.
	I literally kept seeing him pop up because he wasn't.
	So you curved poor Harvey.
	He curved me first then.
	He curved you?
	He did like a thing like a year ago.
	And then I'm not going to.
	He just looks a little different now.
	Okay.
	So have you ever had a been on seeking arrangements or had a sugar daddy?
	I haven't heard of that either.
	Okay.
	No.
	Giselle?
	Absolutely not.
	Kiki.
	She says.
	Okay.
	Oh, wow.
	Go ahead.
	I haven't heard of seeking arrangements, but I do have a guy that just sends me money sometimes.
	Love that.
	How much does he send you?
	However much I ask for.
	What's the most that you've asked for?
	I think at one time I got around $300.
	And is there any expectation of getting something in return?
	Like, do you send feed pics or just what?
	Like, he just sends you money.
	Some people are into sending women money just for no reason.
	Like, knowing that the girl is going to spend their money.
	They're into that.
	Yeah.
	That's weird.
	It's called being a pay pig.
	Fucking sense.
	Okay.
	Wait, so what were the circumstances of that happening?
	He was sending, doing it to my friend first because he's from where my old roommate lives.
	So he's from Florida, so I've never met this man.
	And you're from Florida?
	No, I'm from California.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh.
	So you just.
	Do you send him something?
	Do you send them nudes?
	You can say this.
	What?
	Occasionally, not all the time.
	So like, what kind of nudes?
	Feet pics?
	No.
	Are feet pics nudes?
	No.
	No.
	Then what did you it varies, just whatever.
	Whatever I feel like.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Natasha.
	I've never been on sleeking arrangements, no?
	Ever had a sugar daddy?
	No.
	Okay.
	Where are all the women who want to be sugar mamas?
	There's never been a girl that's like DM'd me, hey Brian, send me pics of your hands.
	How do I have a sugar mama?
	I've had women.
	I've had girls.
	Yeah, but it's usually like bombs.
	It's a box.
	It's a bot.
	It's always a bottom.
	Like, I feel like all the guys who reach out are bots too.
	Like, I never respond.
	Wait, you've had girls reach out to you.
	Yeah.
	But they're boss.
	Yeah, I'm very sorry.
	It's because they just reach out to everyone.
	They don't even realize that they're a girl.
	And when you say bots, do you actually mean like there's not, it's a fake profile?
	It's a fake profile.
	Oh, so they're trying to scam.
	They're usually like Bitcoin scams.
	Oh.
	No, I mean, yeah, so I mean genuine.
	I have.
	Wow.
	Wait, you've had a girl reach out to me at Butte, but she creeped me out and it was in person, so I didn't do it.
	Oh, shit.
	But you could have finessed.
	I was scared for my...
	I was 18.
	Scared for your safety.
	Yes.
	Wait, was she like older woman?
	Yes.
	Butch?
	No.
	It was just an older woman and it scared me.
	Okay.
	I thought I was going to get kidnapped.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Yeah, I'm just, I've been waiting.
	If there's any women in Santa Barbara that want a sugar baby.
	My DMs are open.
	What are you talking about?
	They're like 19.19.
	What do you mean?
	Like, if I were to be a sugar mama, I'd pick like a nice young buck.
	A young man, young buck.
	I mean, like, you know, I.
	Yeah, I got a couple years left of me.
	You know?
	When do you plan on dying, Brian?
	I mean.
	But for now, this wild buck has to roll free or he will die.
	Okay.
	I want to go around the table on our last little thing here.
	Let's see.
	So we went over relationship status and stuff.
	Okay, so really curious.
	So, actually, never mind.
	So do you identify as a feminist in political orientation?
	I do not identify as a feminist, but when it comes to politics, I'm kind of in the middle because my dad's like a really strong Trump supporter.
	My mom's like a really strong Biden supporter.
	So it kind of just throws me right in the middle of that.
	Are your parents still together?
	Hell no.
	They have been split up since I was 18 months.
	Like they've never been together and never will be.
	My dad has my mom blocked on everything right now.
	Sounds like a great relationship.
	Wait, so.
	But they were married?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	I was like, I am from a hookup.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	They told you that.
	No, I just know that that's how it was.
	Like they think that they like, I was like a hookup and then they like got, I was not planned at all whatsoever.
	And then they like kind of got together like cousin me, but like that didn't work out.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Kit, what else you got for us?
	Let's save that for later.
	There's a lot.
	Okay.
	So you're moderate kind of, because your dad, he's Trump supporter, mom, super liberal.
	I just don't have a strong opinion on either.
	That's fine.
	Like moderate.
	Cool.
	Aline?
	I would say I'm more of an egalitarian rather than a feminist because when people say feminist, it's more of like people have like an idea of what how like of how women are how like a feminist woman are woman is in society,
	but egalitarianism is more of just equality, like equal, like how you how you treat each other.
	But feminists, sometimes it has, people can view that as women thinking that they're better than men or thinking that she's like, don't worry, she's not laughing at you.
	She's laughing at me.
	I'm going to stop reading the chat, so I'm like, try to look away.
	Yeah, just avert your eyes.
	But yeah, I'm an egalitarian.
	Okay.
	Rock and roll.
	Rock and roll.
	Have you been reading up on some literature over the summer since your last appearance on the podcast?
	No.
	Okay.
	Political orientation.
	Political orientation.
	I don't like to dabble in politics.
	I know it's like a pretty privileged thing to say, but honestly, I'd say whatever.
	Like, I'd say I'm a pretty.
	I'd say I'm a traditional Democrat.
	I thought you were about to say traditional communist.
	Traditional Democrat.
	No, my relatives.
	Do you mean classical communists?
	My relatives fought against the communists, so actually, pro-America.
	Pro-capitalism.
	Yeah, I'm Vietnamese.
	Right.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	We've left the Viet Cong.
	The VC.
	Yes, the VC.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	So.
	Am I a feminist?
	Do you identify as a feminist in political orientation?
	I don't know.
	I'm all for equality, girls supporting girls, guys supporting girls, girls supporting guys.
	So I don't know, you know?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	And political orientation.
	I would say left-leaning.
	By the way, I just want to say if someone's very liberal, if someone's conservative, no judgment.
	We invite a diversity of thought on here, so go ahead.
	I would consider myself a feminist.
	I feel like feminism has gotten really misconstrued in the past few years.
	And it's been sort of associated with, like, hating men, and I don't think that that's accurate at all.
	I think at its core, feminism is just, feminism is just believing in equality of the sexes.
	And that's something that I can get behind, absolutely.
	So you think that feminism has been misconstrued?
	Yeah, I do.
	Because of the, do you think people wrongly think that feminism equates to man-hating?
	Yeah, that's correct.
	I think at its core, like, feminism is just about equality of all people, regardless of sex or gender.
	Okay, I'm not going to stay on this topic too long just to keep it more focused on dating.
	But what is the, I just want to ask you, what is the core tenet of feminism?
	I mean, I don't know that I can speak on that necessarily, but what I'll do is.
	I'll ask.
	So do you believe in the patriarchy theory?
	Do you believe in the patriarchy?
	Like, how would you describe that?
	How would I describe the patriarchy?
	Basically a society.
	I mean, there's varying definitions, but I mean, a lot of feminists would say it's a society run by men for the benefit of men.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess.
	And or you could say men are oppressing women.
	I don't know that I would go as far to say as men are oppressing women, but I think that there are certain like systematic structures that sort of put men in power and benefit men.
	Okay, we'll move on.
	We'll move on.
	Maybe we'll touch on all that stuff later on in the show.
	Go ahead.
	I would say so just for the sake of equality.
	Like I think that we should all just be equal.
	And I'm definitely left-leaning, but I don't identify with any party.
	Okay.
	Natasha?
	I wouldn't say I'm a feminist and I also don't identify with any political party.
	I think politics are unnecessary.
	Yeah.
	Okay, based.
	So we're going to get into our first question here.
	Actually, you know what?
	We might do a video reaction, so let's see.
	Hmm.
	Actually, before we get into our first video, I actually want to open it up to you guys.
	So is there anything dating related that you want to either get off your chest, maybe you recently had a bad date, men are pissing you off in some way, or there's a trend in dating that annoys you, something you hate about dating apps, etc.
	Let's open it up.
	Go ahead.
	Anything that comes to mind?
	Oh, there's a lot that comes to mind.
	I don't know if I want to put that on the internet.
	Put it on the internet.
	Okay, first of all, in the chat, please stop talking about Harvey.
	I literally keep seeing Harvey's name, and that was like 20 minutes ago.
	That's my first thing.
	Yeah, you should probably just not look at chat.
	No, I'm waiting.
	No, I'm going to have like 30 minutes calls when I go on my phone for a minute.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Stop reading chat.
	Just ignore chat.
	Ignore chat.
	I think like the biggest, like, I think, like, the biggest thing that like annoys me in like the whole dating world is like fucking talking stages.
	Like, that shit's so annoying.
	Like, the whole like.
	And just like the inconsistency in them.
	Like, I literally like hate that like so much.
	Am I like far away from it still?
	You're fine.
	Okay, but I think that's like my biggest thing.
	It's just like.
	What specifically?
	Just like the fact of just like you like, I don't know how to word this.
	Like in, like talking stages, and it's just like you're like labeled that and it's like people like are considered like you can't, like you're just like confused and like most of the time like the girl get but gets like attached or something, and they like see it like it's gonna lead to a relationship and it's always not and it's just like.
	That's like.
	My biggest thing is like I just hate the whole like how like talking stages are so like normalized, like traditional dating does not exist in this generation.
	So are you desirous of traditional dating?
	Yeah like, just like.
	I cannot tell you like the last time I was asked on like an actual, like normal date, like it's not like that.
	So you're sorry, go ahead.
	No, I didn't really have anything else.
	Well, so you're saying that your experiences are mostly what?
	Guys just saying, hey, come over.
	Yeah, like type shit yeah okay, or just.
	Or are there just also guys that are just saying hey, do you want to hang out?
	Yeah, it's just like that.
	Like it's never like that, shit's never planned out anymore, like it's always just like little, like spontaneous, like come over.
	It's never like okay, let's go do this In this.
	Like, guys don't do that anymore.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's a select few, of course, but that's a good idea.
	I think that you're 18, right?
	Yeah.
	So I think that probably starts to change once you get out of college a little bit.
	I hope so.
	A little bit.
	Yeah, it definitely changes.
	But I mean, I think broadly speaking, we've definitely moved away from the more traditional courtship.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Okay.
	And so you were desirous of you want a guy that takes you out.
	Yeah, just like traditional.
	Okay.
	So your current boyfriend-ish, sort of quasi-sort of situation thing going on.
	Was he traditional with you?
	No.
	And he also lives far.
	Like, he lives in Vegas.
	Wait, so it's a long-distance relationship?
	Yeah, and before he lived in Long Beach, so then like I moved to Santa Barbara, so then we were like, Elder boyfriend?
	Huh?
	Elder boyfriend.
	He's a first year too.
	He's 18.
	Not boyfriend.
	No, please don't use that word.
	Situationship, yeah.
	Okay.
	So hold on.
	You're in a long distance situationship.
	That's what I mean when I said complicated.
	Like what?
	If you're in a long-term, committed, serious relationship, I could kind of see doing long distance.
	Even then, long distance is ill-advised.
	But okay, so what?
	Yeah, I know that's what I meant by complicated.
	Okay, so he didn't do the traditional thing with you.
	And wait, are you from Santa Barbara?
	No, I'm from like the Bay Area.
	Okay.
	But you moved here to go to SBCC.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, and you guys met in the Bay?
	No.
	He's from Long Beach.
	Long Beach.
	Yeah.
	This is very complicated.
	I know.
	I know.
	So like we met through social media and then like you met through he DM'd you or you DM'd him?
	I think I met him on TikTok, okay?
	So like I followed him on TikTok and then like I got his snap and like I reached out to him first and then like we just started like FaceTime.
	Does he have a blue check?
	No, I mean he's a 6'5 D1 baseball player.
	Ah, the truth reveals itself.
	Okay, so 6'5 D1 baseball player.
	Yeah.
	I think you've and he's in Vegas.
	You've probably just stalked him, but okay.
	I know.
	All right, Chad's gonna probably figure out who he is.
	Totally.
	I mean, okay, so you just, why did you DM him?
	You just thought he was a, he was a babe?
	Yeah.
	Totally.
	Well, don't hide.
	Don't hide.
	He's like, no, I'm trying to like not look at the chat.
	Oh, okay.
	He's like strawberry blonde, like curly hair.
	He was really attractive.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Was he making weird like TikTok dances or what?
	No, he was just like baseball.
	Probably like a baseball-related TikTok.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So he won't commit to you is what I'm getting.
	No.
	You won't commit to him?
	I wouldn't 100% commit to him like right now.
	So he won't commit to you then?
	Yeah.
	Tilt the microphone down towards you just a bit.
	Okay.
	Bro, my whole love life is.
	See, I just don't get like, you're 18.
	Why do the long distance thing?
	I don't know.
	I just like.
	There's some tall baseball players here in Santa Barbara.
	No, I haven't met anyone, but I'm also just like really have like, when I like talk to guys, I have like a tendency of like putting like guys up on like a pedestal and just like, I don't want to say like worshiping them, but just like having like an idea of them in my head, which they aren't.
	And like that just like happens in like every kind of situation I have with guys.
	Like I just like put them on like this high pedestal and I have like an idea of them that like that really doesn't exist.
	Like that's not really who they are.
	What specifically are you doing by putting them on the pedestal?
	Like are you proper simping?
	Oh, I'm a total I'm not afraid to admit that I'm a simp when it comes to guys that I'm only for fucking 6'5 D1.
	No, no, no.
	I've had you probably fucking curve like all these other dudes.
	All the dudes in the chat are gonna get curved.
	But okay, go.
	Maybe not.
	There's some D1 athletes in there.
	I don't know.
	No, I'm pretty, like, in my head, I'm like committed to this situation shit.
	But okay, so how are you simping for your current guy?
	I'm just like, there's like not like the most, I swear to God, if he watches this, holy shit.
	There's just like no like effort from like his side.
	Like as of right now, like it's just obviously been like distant because like obviously he like practices every day and everything and I'm just like still putting in the effort like looking at like flights to Vegas and type shit, you know?
	So it's like that kind of ordeal.
	Would you say you're down bad?
	Dude, I'm so down bad for this man.
	Yes, I'm down bad 100% Have you flown to him before?
	No.
	Have you guys met in person?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	You said you met him on TikTok.
	Yeah, no, like when I, when I like, he literally like stayed at my apartment like the first time I moved to start with adjusting.
	He like stayed at my apartment like the first time I like like the day I moved to my apartment like down the street he like came here and then I drove up to Long Beach like probably a few days after and then he moved.
	What are some specifically what are some things that you're doing that you're simping for him?
	Like what are some specific like literally just like staying in like a situation where I don't feel appreciated.
	I feel like that's like simping.
	Like it's just like you're doing like all this extra shit for a guy who's not doing it back.
	I feel like lack of reciprocation and you're like doing something like that's when it's like simping.
	Okay.
	You know what I mean?
	Have you simped for previous guys or is this?
	100%, yes.
	I've been in like a lot of like failed, like failed talking stages or whatever you call it.
	And how tall were the other guys?
	Oh no, this is like 100% of Tall Sky I've talked to.
	How tall are you?
	I'm like 5'7 5'8.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Tall guys want tall girls.
	So he's is he on scholarship?
	I think like a 95% scholarship.
	Okay, 6'5, very attractive guy, D1 athlete in Vegas.
	Do you think he's being loyal to you?
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	Yeah, I'm well.
	Do you guys have an understanding?
	Like are you guys completely?
	He doesn't know how to communicate.
	Wow, this sounds like a great guy.
	No, he is a good guy.
	Like he's sweet.
	I just, I don't know.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I mean, just maybe I shouldn't talk shit about him, but.
	No, I mean, I've been losing watches this.
	Maybe he's just not that into you.
	I don't know.
	I think that could be it.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I mean, maybe, probably.
	That's probably what it is.
	I just refuse to accept that fact.
	Have you ever bought him roses?
	No, but I've definitely sent him money and stuff.
	You've sent him money?
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, how much money?
	Not that much, but I mean, like, if, like.
	Is he broke?
	No.
	I mean, he's in college.
	Like, I don't work either.
	Bro, he's finessing you.
	Dude, no, dude.
	You're getting finessed.
	Well, okay, so.
	No, not like that.
	Like that.
	I don't even know why I brought that up.
	Like, it's not like, oh my God, I sent him money.
	Like, I've just sent him probably like 20 bucks, but maybe like a vape or something before.
	D1 athlete, 6'5, in Vegas.
	Are you willing to share him?
	Is my question?
	No, absolutely not.
	Well, you are sharing him.
	He's for sure.
	You don't think so?
	He's not communicating with you.
	He's kind of like, you're sharing him for sure.
	I don't think so.
	You don't think so?
	I mean, I hope not.
	But you've been, how long have you been dating him?
	A year?
	No, that relationship was from my sophomore year in high school.
	Wait, so you've been a year thing?
	Okay, so how long has this thing been?
	They started in the very beginning of August.
	Okay.
	So it's like coming up on two months.
	Like, I think our streak on Snapchat hit, like, 50 days today.
	Just, I don't know.
	Guy or girl, like, don't do long distance.
	It just doesn't.
	I think long distance is like totally doable.
	Like if parties are willing to put in the effort, and it's just I'm the only party willing to put in the effort in this.
	You guys don't have a previous relationship, so there's no, like, if you had been dating for a year, it would make sense.
	Yeah, I know.
	It makes no sense.
	But, like, you basically went.
	Yeah, you went on the first date.
	Yes.
	And then you're like, hey, let's be in a long-distance relationship, pretty much.
	Anyways, we can move on from that.
	Yeah, I'm moving on.
	So, but your main gripe with dating is it sounded like the talking phase.
	That's what bothers you.
	Yeah, and it's like inconsistency within the talking stage as well.
	And is that more so coming from the guy?
	That's just from like everyone.
	That's just a generalization.
	Both signs are doing a lot of that.
	Okay, sure.
	We'll move on, Alin.
	What's up?
	If you remember, do you remember the kind of the prompt?
	Yeah, something that I'm frustrated about, definitely in college, is specifically UCSB in general.
	Hookup culture.
	I feel like it's kind of the same thing, and it's really hard to actually get on serious dates here if you're more of a relationship person.
	It's Isla Vista is honestly just a cesspool of people fucking and like people being horny and wanting to try to fuck.
	Like, I don't know.
	Even like if a guy says to like come over, like you already know like what this guy wants.
	Like, you know, he's not going to make you dinner.
	He's not going to make you like, I don't know, anything nice.
	He's just going to like have his way.
	But that's just something that I'm frustrated about.
	And I know that's probably just part of the college experience or whatever, but honestly, I'm kind of over it.
	And kind of like looking forward to like when I'm like out of here and like men grow the fuck up.
	Okay.
	Now I have a question.
	So your big gripe is hookup culture.
	Yes.
	Right.
	But previously you said that you've not had any long-term relationships.
	Yeah.
	But I'm sure there's, aren't there guys that you know right now that would jump at the chance to be in a relationship with you?
	No.
	None?
	No.
	You mean you don't have any guys in the friend zone?
	I'm sure I'm sure some guys have like tried to talk to me, but then I just like don't like them.
	Or I don't find them attractive.
	See, I think that's the problem with, I mean, the complaints about hookup culture is the guys that a lot of women are chasing after, the top 10, top 20% of guys, of course, they're just going to say, come over.
	But there are guys that you don't find attractive that would be loyal, dutiful boyfriends, but they don't excite you.
	They're not a bad boy.
	They're not six foot five.
	They're not the whole baseball.
	The whole prospect about this is that if you're an attractive guy, then you have all these prospects who you could get with.
	You're going to have that ability to get with a lot of girls.
	And if you're a guy, you're going to be able to do that, and you will do that.
	If you're a guy that doesn't have all these options of women, you're going to have to try an alternate route and try to date them.
	Try to be friendlier, more approachable, be a nice guy.
	Let me just interrupt you really quick while we have it up.
	Every day Edgar says with the $10 super chat, A Cups don't get home-cooked meals.
	Do you have a response?
	Put it back, Eric.
	The response is, I have gotten a home cooked meal, so fuck you, Edgar.
	Okay, every day, Edgar, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Much appreciated, man.
	Thanks for the $10.
	Okay, so.
	Go ahead, continue with your point.
	Yeah, I'm just saying, like, because of these men being a certain level of more attractive than other men, they have more options.
	So they're able to indulge in this more hookup lifestyle rather than a man who has less options and he has to find a way that he can impress girls.
	They went on the roster.
	Don't worry about the chat.
	Don't worry about the chat.
	So wait, Aline, your point is that, what again?
	I'm saying that men, if they're attractive and they can pull bitches, then they have the option to, they so totally fucking would.
	Right.
	But if they don't have the option to pull bitches, they gotta be a nice guy and give a bitch roses or some shit like that, right?
	Tilt the microphone up towards you just a bit.
	Sorry.
	Like, if men can't get bitches, they're gonna be nicer.
	But if they can, they're gonna be a fucking dick and they're gonna fuck all the bitches they want, not want to commit in a relationship because they can.
	They do it because they can.
	It's not because I like the bad boys or whatever.
	I like nice guys.
	But like the attract, there's no attractive nice guys because all the attractive guys are fucking dicks.
	That's what my point is.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Honestly, I don't really have any problems.
	I'm doing fine.
	You're currently in a relationship, right?
	Well, what about before?
	Were you ever at any point on a dating app?
	No.
	Never been on a dating app.
	Okay.
	So no annoyances with dating before you met your boyfriend.
	Well, like what Noeli said.
	Noelani?
	Noelani, I'm so sorry.
	I guess talking stages, just being inconsistent.
	Like that was like the most annoying thing I would say.
	Give us like an example of how that would play out for you.
	Well, it's just like you're talking to someone, you're getting to know them, like, okay, like you like them, but who's to say they're not doing that with like three other girls, you know?
	You just never really know until like someone commits to you.
	Like you're never certain.
	Were you doing that with three other guys though?
	It depends on what stage of like talking.
	You know what I mean?
	Like you're getting to know someone.
	I'm not going to like stop talking to everyone else for one person that I'm just started texting.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	My issues with dating?
	I can repeat the question if you like.
	Yeah, so if there's anything dating, sorry guys, English is my second language.
	Is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
	So if you recently went on a bad date, some guy curved you, your men are pissing you off in some way, something annoying about a dating app.
	Dating app, I guess I can speak to.
	This has been said time and time again.
	Never, okay.
	But the fish pictures.
	What?
	I think we've all seen them because of the fish pictures.
	I have to stop.
	Into the microphone.
	Into the microphone.
	Okay.
	The fish pictures.
	What?
	Oh, were you going to list more or were you going to explain the whole fish picture thing?
	I think that speaks for itself.
	The fish picture thing?
	No, please elaborate.
	Elaborate.
	The picture of the guy with like this.
	It would just hold.
	Or it's like on to get across his chest.
	Well, I think they know why.
	I think I know why guys post that.
	It's because a lot of, like, well, girls, they just take pictures all the time.
	We know that.
	But guys, they don't really take pictures.
	They take pictures when they have like accomplishments, you know?
	Like, oh, I caught a big fish.
	Time to take a picture.
	Like, they don't take pictures because they're like going somewhere nice or dressed up or anything.
	Guys take pictures when they have like, oh, I won this little baseball championship, whatever.
	That's a good answer.
	Wait, so what?
	What do you take issue with?
	Why do you have an issue with the fish pictures?
	I think it's just like, it's overdone.
	It's overdone?
	Yeah.
	Every second man has a fish picture.
	Every second guy has a fish pick.
	Absolutely.
	Really?
	It's that common.
	I'd say so.
	So 50% of profiles have a fish pick.
	Come on, it's probably maybe one in 10.
	Okay, 30%.
	Yeah.
	But so your issue with it is it's because it's overdone or is it because it's a dead animal?
	It's a little bit of both.
	I think like a duck is worse.
	Like if there will be a duck or like a deer or a deer antler, they'll be holding antlers sometimes.
	What?
	Gross.
	Natasha, your thoughts on the fish?
	Oh, I've seen it before.
	You guys are right.
	It's like every single guy, at least from my high school, I remember like looking through guys Snapchat.
	It's a lot of guys that live in like country areas too.
	So country boys need to get together.
	No more fish pictures.
	So everyone here doesn't like the fish picture.
	We just don't like hunters.
	I'm getting out of here.
	I don't have a fish picture.
	I don't mind it.
	It's not terrible.
	But a picture I don't like is if they have like a picture with their like ex or like or like a girl.
	I'm just like, nah.
	Like, why am I seeing a girl here?
	Like, get that off your dating phone.
	Or like, yeah, like, a dude in the two girls on either side.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I feel like they post it to be like, oh, look, I'm not a loser.
	I have, I have bitches or whatever.
	I have talked to a woman.
	Wow, I talk to women.
	But then it comes off weird, you know?
	Like, other women see that and they're just like, you're trying to show off or something.
	Like, it's not flattering for your profile.
	I just don't think that's the same.
	The fish thing.
	The fish, I don't care.
	I don't care.
	Let me ask, but do you eat fish?
	No.
	Are you vegan?
	No, I'm not.
	It's not necessarily like an animal cruelty thing.
	It's just like I eat meat and stuff.
	I don't eat fish because I don't like it.
	It's not really an animal cruelty thing.
	It's just like I don't like fish either.
	No.
	Sushi?
	Okay.
	Well.
	Okay, that's interesting.
	I don't get the fish thing.
	But okay.
	You just see it too much.
	It's like, I get it.
	Because I see shit that girls do on dating apps.
	I'm like, bitch.
	Sorry, I would never say.
	Hold on.
	I take that back.
	My dear.
	I've seen that in a hundred other profiles.
	So I kind of get it.
	I kind of get it.
	The big one that really bothers me for some reason on Hinge, you can answer prompts.
	I don't know how many of you are on Hinge, but one of them is something like, I'm the type of texter who either responds right away or in two to five business days.
	I'm like, shut up.
	Oh my, everyone.
	Okay, so anyways.
	We're going to go to you on this one.
	Not the fish thing, any quarrels with dating.
	Oh, my relationship right now is going pretty good, but before it would be straight girls wanting to experiment with me.
	Okay.
	So like you smash and then they're just like.
	No, it's more like them coming up to me at a party or something because I look a little bit masculine.
	I'm six foot tall, like it's easy comparison to a guy.
	So it would be like straight girls being like, oh my gosh, I'm straight, but like, do you want to make out or do you want to come back to my place with me or something like that?
	And I'm just like, no, no, not really.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	huh i'm curious i'm kind of curious about the whole uh i'm just curious So like when you go on a date with, have you gone on a proper traditional date with a woman?
	Like to dinner to get drinks or something?
	Yes.
	Who pays?
	Usually it's whoever asks the other person out.
	So if I was to ask someone out, I would pay.
	If they were to ask me out, I would expect them to pay.
	And that's usually how it goes.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Yeah, maybe we'll talk about paying on dates later on in the show.
	Natasha.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Okay.
	I was going to say, I don't really have any problems with dating, but I do have one thing to say because we were kind of talking about it earlier.
	If a guy is keeping, holding you on a leash, keeping you on his little fishing reel, you know, he doesn't like you.
	What?
	I feel called out.
	I'm sorry.
	He doesn't like you.
	And he just wants to keep you for later, for a time when he's there, for a time when he's available and not talking to other girls.
	My feelings are hurt.
	I'm sorry.
	It's fine.
	It's not your fault.
	Why are your feelings hurt?
	Because I'm literally on a leash right now.
	Yeah, and you don't deserve to be on a leash.
	No, and I know that I don't deserve it.
	I just like have like attachment issues.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	We have a lot of baseball players here.
	Here in Santa Barbara.
	Just saying.
	Just saying.
	She's just saying.
	She's just saying.
	Okay, so we're going to react to a video.
	It kind of went viral, I think, over the weekend.
	There's this lady who has been dating a famous, or was dating a famous musician, Mr. Adam Levine.
	Her name's Sumner Stroh.
	And we're going to react to her.
	She did this video.
	Did two videos that she released on TikTok.
	Eric, if you want to go ahead and pull it up, it's in the videos tab.
	And it's the first one.
	And before you play it, Eric, I'm going to be having you pause it at points throughout the show or throughout the video because I need to translate the womanies.
	So Eric, if you can go ahead and start it.
	I'm just going to rip the bandit off because I've retaken this like 10 times now.
	Essentially, I was having an affair with a man who's married to a Victoria Secret model.
	At the time, you know, I was young, I was naive, and I mean, quite frankly, I feel exploited.
	I was in the scene.
	Okay, so far, no accountability, right?
	Young and naive.
	And by the way, according to some news reports on this, like it happened a year ago.
	So she's still the same age, basically.
	Maybe it was even sooner.
	And then she said, I don't know if you caught it, guys.
	She said she was exploited.
	Exploited.
	Okay, the fuck.
	So yeah, zero accountability, pretty typical.
	Anyways, continue.
	I am now.
	So I was definitely very easily manipulated.
	Rune 5 is practically elevator music at this point.
	So I'm sure you know who Adam Levine is.
	But Adam and I were seeing each other for about a year.
	After I stopped talking to him over, you know, a period of months, this is how he came back into my life.
	He said, okay, serious question.
	I'm having another baby, and if it's a boy, I really want to name it Sumner.
	You okay with that?
	I was like, I'm in hell.
	Like, I have to be in hell at this point.
	I mean, my morals were unknowingly compromised.
	I was completely manipulated.
	I didn't handle this fried pause.
	Okay, okay.
	So, there's a lot there.
	We'll go back to it in a sec, but her morals were unknowingly compromised.
	What?
	Completely manipulated.
	I don't get that.
	I watched that whole video earlier and she just brought up manipulation the whole time.
	This is like a bingo card for victim mentality.
	Go ahead, continue with the rest of the video.
	I'll finish it off.
	I wanted to come forward because obviously I know the implications that come with doing what I do, making money the way I do, and being an Instagram model.
	So being tied to a story like this, I know the stereotypes.
	I had sent some screenshots recklessly to a few friends I thought I trusted and one of them had attempted to sell to a tabloid.
	So here I am.
	All right.
	We're going to open it up to you guys if you want to give your reaction or your thoughts on this situation.
	I feel like there was just like a better way she could have handled it.
	Like because she keeps talking about like obviously she has like a known like name in like whatever industry she's in.
	And so like for her to go out of the way to like post that on social media and just like embarrass like Adam's wife when there was a total way this could have like been handled privately.
	And I feel like the whole clout chasing idea, like I think that is totally 100% like maybe not in the front of her mind, but in the back of her head, like clout is the biggest motivation here.
	I think she had also mentioned that she was going public with it because someone was like threatening her with screenshots.
	Oh yeah, because she had shared it with her friends and then one of her friends was trying to sell it to a tabloid.
	So I feel like she was trying to kind of like not seem guilty because like she had to say it either way because she thought like someone was gonna like sell it and it was gonna be exposed.
	So she was trying to like make the best of it but I don't know.
	It just kind of sounds like an excuse.
	I don't think it's that hard to know like that he was married.
	Yeah.
	Would a tabloid even I mean he is kind of famous.
	He's like pretty famous.
	I feel like he's really he's pretty famous.
	I mean he did he did play at the Super Bowl.
	Yeah.
	He's like super famous.
	Yeah, but like what?
	But his like family is like rooted from like it's not like a TikToker fame.
	It's like rooted fame from like years ago.
	No, I'm I'm familiar with him.
	Just to me it's like does anyone like care about is his relationship in the tabloids?
	Like who cares?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Like oh well I don't know.
	I could be wrong.
	But Aline do you want to give your take on this or no comment?
	I mean none of my business honestly that's just my son.
	Okay anybody else?
	Any take?
	I think that she was 100% doing it for attention because how do you not know when he has a wife when you could Google it?
	Yeah.
	And the manipulation thing like what?
	Yeah, obviously he wasn't manipulating you.
	Like girl.
	It doesn't make sense.
	I'm not defending her necessarily, but there is another video in which she like speaks on it more and she says that like she knew that he had a wife, but she thought that she thought that they were breaking up or something and that they like hadn't released it to the public yet because of like their fame and like the caliber that they were at.
	So I mean I don't know if that's true or not, but that's something that she said in another video.
	Natasha?
	I would say it's kind of silly to believe that she didn't know that she was dealing with a man that was married.
	Because it's it, she can't, you can't just go off the basis of oh, maybe they are, because I read this article like no, he should come out and say, like I'm not married, I'm gonna talk to you, tell you how hot you are.
	Blah blah, blah.
	It's kind of hard with Adam Levine and with a lot of like famous men, because it's almost like they have so much fame and money and like power not necessarily influence because he's just like an artist and he's kind of outdated a little bit.
	But um, some of these guys they just get a pass for doing it.
	You know, just because they are so known, they have so much money, they can really do whatever they want.
	I do feel bad for the Victoria's Secret model because I mean, she's gorgeous and I haven't heard anything about her cheating on her husband.
	But yeah it's, it's unfortunate, wait.
	So okay, you were, you were saying something about how Adam Levine like it's just not okay for him to be cheating right okay yeah, I don't want to go down that path.
	Okay, so what is it?
	No no, it's okay.
	So yeah basically, I mean she's taking zero accountability.
	We do have the other video.
	I mean she's kind of boring, but we'll pull it up really quick.
	I just wanted to make a part two.
	Um, I feel like it's obviously necessary.
	Um, hindsight is 2020.
	I initially wanted to go in and talk about how remorseful I feel and how embarrassed and disgusted I am with myself, but I didn't want people to look at it and think like oh, she's playing the victim, but in reality, it had the opposite effect.
	Something I now realize I didn't touch on enough was the fact that one of my friends had attempted to sell it, which I realized yesterday whenever they reached out to me for comment, and so I was completely frantic.
	That is why that video is for one, just so all over the place, and two, why I didn't touch on some of the things that I initially would have liked.
	So in this video, I'd like to address some of those things.
	I only came forward because I wanted to kill whatever story the tabloid had.
	The most important part that I did definitely gloss over is the fact that I was under the impression that their marriage was over.
	I believe that they were keeping it quiet to avoid the negative press because, as I had said, I was new to LA, so I just assumed that, with celebrities of that caliber, that that's just how it was and that's why I feel exploited, because he knew I believed everything that he said because of my vulnerable position of being new to LA.
	Pause it also, he was.
	So she, I think she said she wasn't in the scene like she was.
	Now I think was that in the first video or this video, but she said she wasn't in the scene, like she wasn't.
	Pretty sure yeah, so I mean translation.
	She hasn't been passed around as much by top tier, high status men, Slash celebrities.
	That's the translation.
	And then she said that she's new to LA.
	Which she like tried to blame on like her morals being compromised.
	Was like just a new to LA.
	Yeah.
	It's just weird.
	Yeah, she's new to LA, exploited because she was vulnerable because she was new to LA.
	Like, what?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	It's just the whole thing's kind of weird.
	And I don't know, like, a girl like that.
	For her to say that she was naive and exploited, like, bro, she's super plastic.
	She's got the lip filler.
	Like, I don't know.
	Women that look like that have so much experience dealing with men.
	So, like, nobody's taking advantage of you.
	Like, obviously, you're in it for the clout.
	You're an IG model, Adam Levine, whatever.
	The only reason she came out about it was to not look like a homewrecker.
	Yeah, but also, if she did come out on a tabloid, I don't think anyone would be like, oh, I know her because she's an Instagram model.
	Like, I don't think anyone really knows Instagram models or cares that much, but people care about Adam Levine.
	And I think that that tarnishes his image even more that she posted that TikTok.
	Yeah.
	I'll say this, and I don't want to finish the video just because she's kind of annoying.
	But so women won't date a man who lives with his mom, but they will date a man who lives with his wife.
	I'll ask.
	Well, you guys are all kind of young, but would you date a guy who lives with his parents?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I mean, I'm only 19.
	Yeah, you guys are too young.
	I still love my parents in the summer.
	I can't expect shit.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	Anyways, we're going to move on.
	Does anybody want to give a just to wrap that up a take on that whole thing?
	No.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Okay.
	So, hold on.
	I just want to see if we have another.
	Actually, you know what?
	We're going to do super chats and then we'll get into the next question.
	All right.
	So we have, first off, we have a comment from Junior Soprano here.
	These girls never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
	I don't know what.
	Oops, whoops.
	Response.
	Do you guys have a response to Mr. Junior Soprano?
	I believe that is the, what's it called?
	The mob boss of the New Jersey crime family.
	The DeMio crime family in New Jersey.
	You guys have a response to Junior Soprano?
	I played college basketball before coming here.
	So.
	You are six feet.
	I am.
	Okay, moving on.
	Stiffmeister.
	Ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.
	Okay, we'll do that really quick.
	What do you rate yourself on the scale of one to?
	I'll give myself like a seven and a half.
	A bit louder.
	I'll give myself seven and a half.
	Okay, Aline?
	Seven.
	Seven and a half.
	I'd rather not.
	I think it depends on the day and how confident I'm feeling day to day.
	So.
	Fair enough.
	Like a six.
	Natasha?
	I'd say like an eight, maybe.
	Okay.
	There you have it, Stiffler.
	Thank you.
	Or Stiffmeister.
	Thank you for the question.
	Let's see.
	Really quick, Vitaly ZDTV.
	Would any of you date a felon?
	And that does look like a mugshot.
	Would any of you date a felon?
	No.
	No?
	No.
	Okay, this guy.
	When I was like in Pacific Beach in San Diego, I was just walking around and then he asked me for my number.
	And then he told me he's in a gang.
	And I was like, what?
	And he said, yeah, I kill people.
	I was like, and then he asked me like what I wanted to do when I was older.
	And I said I wanted to be a doctor.
	And he's like, okay, I'll kill people, you save people.
	Wow.
	And then you guys went on a date afterwards.
	I was like, I was like, no.
	Excuse me.
	Was he all blasted with tats?
	He was very scary.
	He was like.
	White guy?
	No.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But he was like, I don't know.
	I could tell he had like a gun on him.
	You could tell he had a gun on him.
	You could just tell.
	I can just tell.
	Okay.
	Actually, I want to add a second thing to this.
	Would you date a guy who legally owned a firearm on this question?
	Oh, yeah.
	I think I would, yeah.
	Okay.
	So, would you date a felon?
	Would you date a guy who legally owns firearms?
	I would not date a felon.
	Sure, maybe I would date a guy who legally owns a firearm.
	I don't really know.
	Okay.
	I think in terms of the firearm question, if we were like living together, and especially if we had kids, that would be a no-go for me, because I just know how many accidents there are with firearms and a kid in the house.
	So that would really make me uneasy.
	And the felon question?
	Probably not.
	Felon question, I feel like it would depend.
	Like, maybe.
	And the firearm thing, I wouldn't care.
	My family's very country, so I grew up our own guns.
	For the felon thing, I might.
	Maybe.
	There's a chance I might.
	It depends on what they did.
	For the firearm thing, yeah, I don't care about guns.
	By the way, Red Bull tastes like shit.
	I haven't had a Red Bull in like 10 years.
	I love Red Bull.
	This is my first Red Bull in 10 years, and my energy was running a bit low last stream, so I was like, oh, yeah, I need a bit of energy.
	Wait, so you would not want to date a guy who owns a firearm when you have kids?
	Yeah, that's correct.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Hypothetical scenario.
	You have two kids, young babies.
	You're married to a nice gentleman.
	Home invasion, three men break into the house.
	What do you do?
	You don't have a firearm, by the way.
	Right, I would call 911.
	Okay.
	And so they're going to be there in 10 minutes.
	So in that 10-minute period of time, what are they going to do?
	I don't know.
	It would just depend on the situation.
	I think the flight or fight response would kick in, and I would do everything to protect my family.
	But I just think in general, guns tend to escalate situations.
	Wait, guns escalate situations.
	I mean, it's already pretty escalated because three strange men have just broken into your house.
	Yeah, it is already escalated, obviously.
	So the gun would make it worse, is what you're saying.
	I think so.
	Then if my partner were to pull out a gun and then they pull out a gun and then it's just a showdown.
	But what if their intention is to harm you?
	Like I said, I would do everything to protect my family.
	I just have to be comfortable with a gun in the house.
	But okay, there's three men.
	They could be armed.
	You don't know.
	Right.
	It's you, two child.
	So it's two children, two babies, versus a woman and your husband, right?
	Or whatever.
	The odds aren't looking good.
	In that scenario, would you want a gun?
	Would you want either you or your husband, whatever, partner to have a gun in that scenario?
	I mean, like I said, no.
	Like, I would feel honestly less safe with a gun in the house, knowing all the chances of accidents and just, yeah, like the potential to escalate a situation or for something to go off hastily or to harm somebody or anything like that.
	But okay, even in the home invasion scenario, you still wouldn't want to have a gun in that scenario?
	In the specific scenario where there's a home invasion.
	Yes.
	You would not want to have a gun in that situation.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I can't say what I would be feeling in that moment if somebody was coming for me and my family, but there is no situation in which I would want to have a gun in my house.
	There's no situation where you'd ever want a gun in your house.
	Even the situation.
	I think it's a larger issue of like, I don't want to get super political with this, but like gun control in general.
	Like if guns are less accessible to everybody, then like I could feel safer knowing that like the people breaking into my home wouldn't necessarily have a gun.
	And so then I'd say let me just make a point on that.
	Okay.
	Is breaking into a home illegal?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Would owning a gun, even if guns were banned, would that be illegal?
	Let's say guns were banned, right?
	Let me ask a different question.
	Is cocaine illegal?
	Yes.
	Do people still get cocaine?
	Yes.
	It's not about, I mean, yes, people will still find a way.
	It's about accessibility.
	And if you make something less accessible, people are less likely to find ways to seek it out.
	And it's just, you know, if guns are illegal or if more heavily regulated, then they're less accessible in general and they're less just out and about.
	And I think that that's a step in the right direction.
	Okay, fair enough.
	We'll move on from the gun debate.
	So, okay, we have, let's see here.
	We have Mr. Andrew Tate.
	Noe Lonnie.
	Did I get it right this time?
	Noelani.
	It's like the E. He's like a lane.
	Noi.
	Noil.
	Noelani.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Come to Romania, baby flower emoji.
	That's Mr. Andrew Tate.
	He's invited you to Romania.
	Are you taking his invitation?
	No.
	Do you know who Andrew Tate is?
	Yes.
	Okay, we'll watch some of his videos later.
	All right.
	Meowler with the $10 Canadian dollars.
	Thank you, man.
	Can I call you Lonnie?
	Yeah, you can call me Lonnie or Noe Lani.
	Okay, sorry.
	I know it's complicated.
	Okay, Lonnie, baby.
	You can have Poland, Denmark, the Eiffel Tower if you want.
	Plus, me and your dad would get along beautifully.
	My dad is not easy to do.
	That is from, I believe his name's Adolph Meowler, but he's changed it since last stream.
	Thank you for the 10 Canadian men.
	Much appreciated.
	Let's see.
	Stephen Krug with the $5 soup chat.
	18-year-old chick so obviously intentionally attracts attention to herself, but tries to play it off like she's not trying to do so cringe.
	Okay.
	Is it about me?
	I'm just going to assume it's about you.
	It might be about you.
	Okay, I'm good.
	Okay.
	We got that one.
	Stephen Krug with the $10 soup chat.
	Okay.
	We don't want to dox this guy.
	No, I mean, it's, no, I actually want to read that one.
	Sure.
	Stephen Krug, $10 Soup Chat.
	BS Alert, UNLV is the only D1 college in Vegas, and nobody on the roster is 6'5 ⁇ .
	My bad is 18-year-old chick is full of it.
	Possible she's being honest, really doubt it.
	I got attention-seeking vibes.
	Where is the whole attention-seeking shit coming from?
	I don't get that.
	Stephen Krug is our resident roaster for tonight, I guess.
	Mike Davis is nowhere to be found.
	But are you sure he's 6'5"?
	I mean... That's what he said.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's 6'5 ⁇ .
	Watch, he's actually 5'11.
	No, he's really tall.
	I know he's really fucking tall.
	Maybe he's 6'4 ⁇ .
	Like, I'm not gonna tell you guys his name because then I'll actually have to just save my life here.
	Okay.
	But he's on the roster.
	I have no idea what this one.
	I'm not sure what.
	I don't get it.
	My eyes.
	Have you been looking at my chest during the show?
	Yeah, maybe I like your flannel.
	How dare you?
	How dare you?
	Okay.
	Glad to sell a thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Is Nat a co-host now?
	That's great.
	Ladies, men like their fish.
	Leave it alone.
	LOL.
	Yeah, the whole fish thing.
	I mean, I don't really get it, but I'm a dude, right?
	I don't get it.
	Part of me thinks a lot of it is it's kind of an animal rights compassion thing.
	Oh, it's a the dead fish.
	I don't know.
	No.
	I could be wrong, though.
	I think I only feel like that when it's like a duck.
	Like, I don't really care about a fish, but like, if you post a duck, like, that's going to make me kind of like, that's going to make me kind of sad.
	I think I've seen a woman holding a fish in a dating profile before.
	That's funny.
	Red flash.
	She's going crazy.
	Wifey material right there.
	Okay.
	We're going to move on.
	Thank you guys so much for the soup chats.
	If you want, get some in.
	$10 and up, guys.
	All right.
	So, let's see.
	Moving on here.
	Have you ever, and this is sort of related to our topic of guys getting friend zoned.
	Have you ever been fuck zoned by a guy?
	Like, so you, like, friends with benefits, I'm guessing.
	So basically, like, you want something more.
	You want a relationship, but he just wants sex and he's keeping you around for sex.
	Move the microphone towards that way.
	Yeah.
	And you can pull it close towards you.
	Bring it in, all the way in.
	You speak softly, so I just want you to tilt it down towards you.
	Right there.
	A little more?
	There you go.
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	I don't think so.
	Fuck so.
	Maybe your current, it could, your current guy might.
	It could be.
	I mean, it could.
	Possibly, yeah.
	Maybe that's my current situation.
	I'm fuck zoned.
	I mean, it's hard to fuck me all the way from Vegas, though, but I mean, who knows?
	So are you, like, triple texting him and he doesn't respond?
	I don't, like, like, I mean, I chase, but I don't fucking do that bullshit.
	I thought you said you were simping.
	I'm simping, but I don't, like, I'm not going to be, like, like, do all that.
	Like, okay, you don't respond, you don't respond.
	I mean, I might be sad about it, but I'm not going to be like, why the fuck aren't you responding?
	Like, type shit.
	No.
	Do you love him?
	No.
	Love is such a strong word.
	I've never been in love.
	Like, I was dated a guy for a year, but like, I've never been in love.
	But I'm obsessed with the idea of love.
	Wait, question.
	So you dated a guy for a year.
	My soft.
	Did you submit?
	You were not in love with him.
	No.
	Did you say you were in love with him?
	I did say love you, but I was not in love with him.
	Like, the way he treated me, like, I could never fall in love with him.
	like he was a cheater he he this is like i don't know if this should be on trauma dump You said you wanted to, right?
	I feel like, okay, me and him broke, like, we broke up in, like, the middle of our relationship in, like, July.
	We ended in, like, I broke up with him in December of 2020, and we went on a break in, like, July, and like, the girls about it in his town heard about it.
	And one of them texted me and was like, Noelani, I need to tell you something.
	And like, she didn't even have to say anything else.
	And I was like, I was like, Kylie, please don't tell me he raped you.
	That's not her actual name.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, like he raped a girl I knew.
	And I got back together with him.
	So there's your trauma dump for the night.
	Okay, that's the end of the show, guys.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	No, just kidding.
	Okay.
	You asked for that.
	But wait, did you have a sense that he was falsely accused?
	I mean, like.
	Because he probably told you it was bullshit, right?
	100%.
	But like the way she explained it, like, you can't.
	Let's not go into the details.
	You just can't make that up.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	I mean, you can, but like, the details I heard, it's like that.
	There was no way.
	Okay.
	Can I ask why you took him back?
	I don't know.
	Like I literally to this day, like he's so fucking ugly, it hurts.
	So I don't even know.
	Like it was just like me, like freshman, like just I don't even know.
	I can't even, I don't even want to look at the chat after I just said that.
	Okay, we're gonna move on.
	Aline, have you ever been fuckzoned by a guy?
	Yeah, obviously.
	That's why I hate hookup culture so much.
	Tilt the microphone down.
	There you go.
	That's why I hate hookup culture so much.
	But if a guy's gonna do that, I'm not gonna, I'm obviously not gonna let them.
	Like, I'm not like a simp like that.
	I don't care how like hot, like, rich.
	I don't care, like, how much status you have, famous.
	If you just want me for sex, like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna give into it.
	Like, that's just not my style.
	Like, but obviously, yeah, it's happened to me.
	So you were, there was a guy that you wanted something more.
	You wanted a relationship, but he didn't want it.
	Not necessarily, like, he wanted to just, like, fuck, but it's more of like, oh, I don't really want a relationship, but we can be friends with benefits and stuff.
	No.
	Never been fucked zoned?
	No, I've never been fuck zoned.
	Not really.
	Okay.
	But you've never had a relationship, though.
	Yeah.
	But never been fuckzoned.
	Yeah.
	Wait, can I say something?
	Because it's not the baseball player.
	Like, it's not.
	This was like two years ago.
	Like, I don't want that to be an association there at all that they're making there.
	Okay.
	Continue.
	Yeah, probably don't rechat.
	Like, Jesus Christ, I cannot have them getting these two mixed up.
	No.
	I haven't, but I've fuckzoned other people.
	Oh, you fuck zones.
	Yeah, actually, really quick, the rest of the panel, have you ever fuck-zoned a guy?
	No.
	Um, no.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	Natasha, your answer, have you ever been fuck-zoned?
	Or have you fuck-zoned a guy?
	Neither.
	And no girl should allow themselves to be fuckzoned.
	Because that's all guys want.
	All guys want is pussy.
	Swear to God.
	What?
	Natasha.
	Okay, no.
	No, no, no.
	Let me rephrase that.
	Shitty men want pussy, and that's all they want from you.
	Higher guys that are worth more, that will benefit your life more, they're not just going to want pussy from you.
	And that's a fact.
	Or could it be that the men that only want pussy, the men that only want sex from women, is because that's all that the women have to offer.
	Because for me, if pussy is all you're offering, pussy's all I want.
	Yeah.
	Aline, why are you cuddling with the microphone?
	You're like nuzzling up against the microphone with your cheek.
	It's just, it was a very intimate moment.
	It was a very intimate moment.
	You have a weird mind, Brian.
	You're not wrong.
	Okay, so moving on from the...
	Huh?
	You were nuzzling the motherfucker.
	it was like okay anyways um let's see so So.
	Let's see.
	So we did the rating thing earlier.
	Do you think it's wrong of men to rate women on a scale of one to ten?
	Do you think it's wrong?
	Do you object to it?
	I mean, I don't really think so.
	I mean, I think it's weird to like assign a number because I mean, especially because when the whole rate thing, it just comes down to it.
	Wait, what?
	Are we talking about, do you think it's wrong to.
	Oh, rating.
	I thought you.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Oh, what?
	Oh, my gosh.
	No.
	You speak very softly, so I miss you.
	I think that it's kind of weird to assign a number because it's all based on attractiveness.
	I mean like you don't really like involved the personality must like the one to ten rating things.
	So I mean but it's not like just like a part of today so I don't think it's like that big of a deal.
	Sure.
	What was the question?
	No.
	I know it.
	So do you think it's wrong of men to rate women on a scale of one to ten?
	You know if they're with their boys, oh she's a seven.
	She's a ten.
	It doesn't matter if I'm wrong or not.
	They're gonna do it anyways.
	But do you think it's wrong?
	No, it's not wrong because I rate men.
	Yeah.
	I just think it's kind of weird, but it's like, okay, I don't know.
	I mean, I think it's more problematic when it becomes like a public thing and it's like actually like written down or like posted somewhere.
	I think that's when it becomes like more problematic and more hurtful.
	But I think everyone's kind of entitled to their like preferences and their opinions in a way.
	Sure.
	I don't really see an issue with it, but.
	Okay, Natasha.
	No, no issue.
	All right.
	Based panel.
	Okay.
	So next question.
	Who do you think is more shallow?
	Men or women?
	Take a deep breath.
	Shallow?
	Think about it.
	Who's more shallow, men or women?
	Like, you only like them for their looks or what?
	It could be other things, other material things.
	Like, could be men and women.
	Oh, I think women.
	Yeah.
	Women are more shallow.
	Yeah.
	We're just like, I feel like women tend to be more like materialistic is like the thing.
	Okay.
	I think that's like a pretty good question.
	I don't know if I could really say one for sure, but I'm kind of leaning towards men right now.
	I feel like men and women are shallow in different ways.
	Like I think men tend to be more interested in women like solely based on appearance.
	And I think women tend to be interested in men based on like status.
	And I think those are both shallow, but not necessarily in the same way.
	Yeah.
	I think definitely women.
	Okay.
	I mean, she's...
	Wait, so you're bi.
	I am.
	So you're bi.
	So you have experience, romantic experience with women.
	Why do you think women are more shallow than men?
	Because women can be brutal, not going to lie.
	And men are, I feel like, are easier to see through.
	Like, if they only want you for one thing, they're going to let it known that they only want you to do it.
	Yeah, you can, like, see, like, a man's intentions way more clearly than you can with, like, a woman.
	Honestly, that's true.
	But, like, women just choose to ignore like their intention.
	Really?
	Because, I mean, I've heard from a lot of women that y'all get played.
	We let it, like, we know.
	Like, we know the intention.
	Like, most of, like, nine times out of ten, I feel like we know a dude's intention.
	It's just, like, we ignore it.
	Like, with the, it's, you can't really read, like, we're a lot more complex than you think.
	You, like, ignore the red flags because he's, like, making you, like, feel so.
	It's usually love bombing makes you ignore type shit.
	Yeah.
	And women tend to see like the best out of other people more often than men do.
	Because women are more like nurturing, caring, like, motherly.
	And, like, they want more, like, affectionate and romantic relationships, while men tend to be really quick thinking.
	They're more like, they're not very, I don't know how to say it, but like, men just don't think the same way that women do.
	Like, if a man gets rejected, he'll be like, okay, yeah, like, that's it.
	I'm not going to do anything else.
	But like women, they will see red flags.
	They ignore it because they feel like, oh, they kind of construe some stories for themselves to make themselves feel better.
	Wait, so you think women ignore?
	No, it's all fun.
	It's good.
	You think women ignore red flags?
	Yeah.
	I think a lot of women do.
	I don't think you're wrong, but I think that women are far pickier and far more selective than men are.
	Yeah.
	So on a date, I feel like on a date, like, most women are going to be looking for reasons to disqualify the guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is completely, it's based on the scenario.
	If a woman really, really likes a guy, right?
	And then he starts falling off.
	He's giving some really suspicious red flags.
	Like, oh, I can't hang out.
	Like, I got to go with my buddies.
	Or he'll never bring around his buddies.
	Like, some red flags start showing up.
	If you really like him, you're going to make up some stories in your head.
	You're going to say, like, oh, he's just probably really busy.
	Like, I know that he's a good guy because exactly.
	Like, you picture this guy as like someone who's a very good person versus a man who sees red flags in a woman, they'll see it as red flags.
	They're not going to put it, like, they're not going to make excuses for you.
	Yeah.
	They're more straightforward.
	They just see it through.
	Like, they see it as what it is.
	Like, women don't do that usually.
	Okay.
	Good time.
	I think women are more naive, like, most of the time.
	Women are more naive.
	Yeah.
	You think?
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	You think?
	Definitely.
	We like to not see all the problems or ignore them.
	Like, oh, like, even if there are problems, we might not even give solutions to them.
	We might just ignore them.
	Like, oh, that's fine.
	There's a little error in the system.
	I wouldn't say naive, but I feel like they ignore more.
	They choose to ignore more.
	Women ignore more.
	Yeah.
	It's only if I'm not.
	But I really like them.
	This is not a first date scenario.
	I wouldn't.
	In a first-date scenario, women are the most judgy ever.
	Okay, I see.
	Because that's what I was going to get at.
	First date scenario, the woman's going to be testing you left and right.
	Like, everything she's asking you and everything that you're applying to her, even like, well, I think this applies to everyone.
	I think everyone is judging you very, like, even in the back of their head, like, minds, they're judging you from the moment that you walk in.
	Like, that's deep.
	That's deep.
	It's like an interview.
	There you go.
	But I want to touch on that really quick.
	But why is everyone in chat talking about post-Malone?
	Did you guys know that?
	They've been saying that the whole time.
	You?
	Oh, you heard my talk.
	Wait, why are you post-Malone?
	Probably because my hair is in a bun.
	Oh, my.
	I mean, you don't have enough face tats for that.
	I wish I had post-Malone's words.
	They've just been like putting post-Malone lyrics in the chat for the past 30 minutes.
	They're calling me A-Cups.
	I'm not mad, but like.
	They're calling you A-Cups?
	Damn.
	Roasted.
	She is post-Malone.
	Roasted.
	Does anyone have to-kitty gay?
	Does anyone here have any plastic surgery?
	No.
	I have implants.
	You have breast kidding.
	Oh my gosh.
	You have breast implants?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Anybody?
	Plastic surgery?
	Lip filler?
	Anybody?
	Nobody?
	Natty.
	Okay, all natty.
	Yeah.
	Small boobs are good.
	You know, I'm a fan of small boobs in general.
	Just saying.
	I mean, you know.
	Thank you, Brian.
	Just, you know, very insightful.
	Small boob.
	IBTC.
	Small boob.
	Solidarity.
	Itty bitty tick and mini.
	There you go.
	Just bring a shirt.
	A bitty chicken mini.
	Say that again.
	Three times fast.
	A bitty chicken mini.
	We're going to react to a video, guys.
	Yeah, Eric, can you open the other window?
	Or sorry, the other door, please.
	It's a little toasty.
	A little toasty.
	I sweat.
	I'm like glued to the seat.
	Thank you, Eric.
	Okay, TMI.
	TMI.
	All right, by the way, guys, we will be selling that chair on eBay.
	Oh, after the show, if you guys want to start my dead ass ass.
	Bidding starts at $70.
	Okay.
	Okay, we need a, all right, let's.
	Eric, if you can pull up the videos tab for us, thank you.
	Start your bids, boys.
	Next to Anna Akana.
	Yeah, we'll do that one.
	And my argument against the video.
	Wait, sorry, can you pause it?
	Can you hit Ctrl-F?
	Just control F?
	There we go.
	Start from the beginning, if you can.
	I should pay for date.
	Just press.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Why guys should pay for dates has always been like, look, girls take hours to get ready.
	Our investment is looking really nice for you.
	Makeup, clothes, that costs money, too.
	Okay.
	So Anna Akana, she's been a YouTuber for a decade plus.
	I don't really like her that much, but she's...
	Anyways, her argument is men should pay for dates because the women, they got to do more to get ready and put on makeup and all this stuff.
	So do you agree with that?
	That like a guy should always pay on a date.
	Yeah, just scoot the microphone.
	I'm having problems with the mic here, apparently.
	Tilt it down towards you.
	Oh my gosh.
	I don't know how it gets like that.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, what's the question?
	So Anna Khanna, YouTuber, she thinks that men should pay for the date because women, we have to spend more time getting ready.
	We got to buy makeup, put on makeup, et cetera, et cetera.
	I don't think that should be the reasoning as to why a guy should pay for a date.
	I mean, guys, have to get ready, but makeup isn't always a part of it either.
	And mean hair too.
	But I mean, I don't think that's necessarily should be the reasoning is why a guy should pay.
	I mean, a guy should pay if he invites you out on a date.
	Usually when someone invites you out, most of the time, if it's a date-date scenario, you're going to expect the guy to pay.
	But I mean, if it's just more of a chiller thing, then it might just be split the bill or whatever.
	But I think it depends on the scenario.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I totally agree.
	I think it's definitely whoever asks.
	And just because a woman puts on makeup, well, women don't have to put on makeup to go on a date.
	Like, we can probably spend as much time getting ready as much as you are.
	It's a little unlikely, but what she's saying doesn't really apply to every scenario, is what I'm saying.
	And men, a lot of like well-off men can take care of themselves and they can get ready too.
	Doesn't mean that they have to pay for the date just because it's a girl, you know?
	I mean, it's more of a traditional thing, and I know that it's like rooted in society.
	But definitely, if a girl asks a guy out on a date, then she should be the one who's paying for it since she's suggesting it.
	You know?
	I think whoever asks the other person should pay.
	I think that's fair.
	I don't know.
	I feel like it'd be weird, like a girl's like, hey, do you want to go get dinner?
	And then, I don't know, like you ask the person, you pay, you know?
	Have you ever asked a guy out on a date?
	No.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I think that's a good point.
	Like, I don't think it necessarily needs to be rooted in who spends more money or more time getting ready.
	But yeah, I think you could just take turns.
	Or whoever asks the other one out is the one who pays.
	Yeah, I think it's whoever asks should pay.
	So when you're dating women, are you asking or are you who's getting asked out more often?
	It's both.
	It's probably like 50-50.
	Okay.
	Eric, I'm not sure if we should pull up this super chat that just came in, just heads up.
	I mean, let me think about that one.
	Star it, though.
	Star it, Eric.
	Go ahead, Natasha.
	Yeah, men shouldn't pay just because women put makeup on.
	I think men should pay as a rule, especially on a first date.
	It shows that you like the girl.
	It shows that you want to see her again.
	It shows her that you actually are financially stable.
	And yeah.
	So you want the guy to pay on the first date?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why not?
	But equality?
	No.
	So what would you do?
	You're on the first date with a guy and he's like, the check comes and he's like, how do you want to split this?
	He's like, hey, let's split.
	If he wants to split it, there's no future ahead of us.
	Are you going to be upset on the date?
	Like, are you going to, you're just going to be like, yeah, sure, and then just never see him again?
	I wouldn't say that I'll.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry, always messing with the cups.
	I'm going to be respectful about it.
	I'll go ahead and pay and I won't even say a word about it.
	But I do believe that men should be, you know, kind of courting the girl and being, you know, be dominant.
	Like, be the bigger person.
	It's a man's job to take care of you as long as you are taking care of him as well.
	And I think on the first date, it's really important for a man to show that he is interested in you, that he's serious about you.
	And I think paying is just kind of the bare minimum on a first date for a man.
	Does anyone on the panel want to respond to?
	I would like to say that it's a valid point, but also I think that most situations, yeah, men tend to be like the dominant person in the relationship.
	But there's also relationships where women are taking care of men, and that's not necessarily my type of relationship, but I do think that that is a valid relationship, and I think that that can exist, and it's something that Is possible and would definitely work.
	And I think that's definitely okay.
	But that doesn't mean that men all the time have to do that.
	Men don't have to pay just because they're men.
	I do think that whoever asks, though, is this.
	Yeah.
	If I recall correctly, this differs a little bit from your previous take on this.
	No, no, I said that.
	Didn't you say that men should pay?
	No, I said the last time.
	Okay, so I said.
	Nothing wrong with that, but.
	I said that whoever asks should pay.
	But in my personal experiences, I've never asked out a man.
	I've only been asked out.
	So in my personal situations, men have always paid for me.
	And in my circumstances, whatever she said, if he asked to split, like, I would be like, fuck.
	Like, he asked me on a date and he wants me to split the bill.
	Like, I'm not going to pursue this anymore, you know?
	Like, he's not putting in his effort.
	Like, why would you take me out to this expensive restaurant and expect me to pay for something that you can't afford?
	Sure.
	So that's my take.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'll give my take on it after we react to one more video on this.
	Eric, if you can pull up the, I think the next video.
	It is.
	Yeah, that one.
	Go for it.
	What you're looking at here is an invoice I received after an unsuccessful date.
	As it reads above, under project, no fucking joke.
	Due date ASAP.
	I'm not kidding.
	I told him I didn't have a romantic connection with him over message politely.
	And this is the response.
	He said it's not a matter of money.
	It's the principal.
	£29.
	Come on.
	Give me a break.
	i mean would you do this i just i can't believe it Okay, so basically, she went on a date with a guy, first date.
	She wasn't interested.
	And then after the date, he invoiced her for, I guess, her portion of the bill.
	So your reaction to that, what do you think?
	And actually, we're going to start over here with Natasha and work our way around.
	But so basically he asked her to pay.
	No, so he paid.
	He paid.
	On the date.
	She messaged him after the fact and said, or sorry, she messaged him and maybe he was trying to set up a second date.
	She said she wasn't interested.
	So at that point, he invoiced her and said, hey, here's your portion of the date.
	And so he wanted her to pay it after the fact.
	Yeah, that's very unattractive.
	Well, she's already rejected him.
	I mean, just don't pay it.
	Like her paid it?
	Yeah.
	Like, didn't he request her to pay for the date that he paid, right?
	So just don't fucking pay.
	I know the audacity of the guy, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But like, he, yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know what he's saying.
	Why is it audacious?
	Why is that audacious?
	He's like, oh, you rejected me?
	Now you're going to have to fucking give me my money back.
	It's just like fucking audacity.
	Just move on.
	It's like having a small ego and not knowing how to take rejection.
	Exactly.
	He doesn't know how to take rejection.
	Well, he took rejection.
	But it's just petty.
	It's like if you wanted to take this girl out on a date, she went with you.
	Like, okay, like, you paid.
	Like, unfortunately, she just wasn't into you.
	Like, okay, that's that.
	Like, that's just so petty to be like, okay, pay me back.
	Okay, but let me ask you guys a question.
	How soon into the date do you think she wasn't interested in him?
	I want to say probably within the first 10 minutes.
	But she knew.
	How do you know?
	We don't.
	But I mean, most women.
	Why does it matter?
	Like, she's maybe just had a really bad person.
	My point, the reason I bring that up, the reason why I bring it up, by the time the check came, she probably knew I'm not going to go on a date with this guy again.
	She could have then offered to split the bill, but she didn't.
	He still asked her.
	He still asked her out on the date, yeah?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why would she offer to split the bill if she didn't even like the date?
	All the more reason to split the bill.
	Why?
	Why would she pay for something that she doesn't like?
	Like, she's on the side of the city.
	She got food.
	She ate.
	She drank.
	Well, he was the guy that offered to take her there to get to know him.
	And she didn't like what she was experiencing.
	Why would she pay for her?
	Lonnie, why are you looking at the chat like that?
	Because I can't just.
	I have to squint.
	Should I have some glasses on?
	You're like giving the chat a stink eye over there.
	I can't.
	I have really, really bad visions.
	It's really bad.
	I have some glasses.
	I have mine.
	Oh, yes.
	Throw them on.
	Throw them on.
	Anyways, so, okay.
	I mean, now I'm going to really be able to say everything that they're saying.
	Okay, so where were we?
	Did anyone else want to come in on their reaction?
	I think you kind of wanted to come in, right?
	Yeah, I think it goes off principle.
	Even if they, like, it didn't work out, you still asked them to pay.
	Like, I mean, you still asked them on the date.
	You expected them to be there.
	You took them there.
	So you're expected to pay.
	So just because she didn't like you and it didn't work out doesn't, I don't feel like that's a, I feel like that's a little bitch boy.
	I like that description.
	There's a small dick involved.
	It's like a scroll and it went inside.
	It turned to a vagina.
	Pussy boy.
	What?
	Stop pointing at me.
	No genitalia shaming here.
	How dare you?
	How dare you?
	We can talk about that soon.
	Okay, so, and your take on this.
	Well, I just think, I mean, imagine like if you guys date for like a year and then you break up, are you going to like Venmo request her for like hundreds of dollars?
	Okay, like you owe me like $8,000 for like all the dates we've been on in the past year.
	You know, it's like the principle of it.
	Like in the, I'm sorry.
	In the moment, if you're like, I'm going to pay and like this was a date, you know, whether it's like a guy or a girl paying, like, you're doing something nice.
	It's a date.
	Like, you don't just retract that because things don't work out.
	Well, so if you were in a long-term relationship with a girl and one of the partners in the relationship paid more than the other, you know, whatever, to me, yes, I would agree.
	That's kind of weird.
	Oh, pay me back for the several dozen dates we went on or whatever the fuck.
	Yeah, that's a bit, that's a bit much.
	But I think on a first date, it's a bit different.
	So I'm coming to this guy's defense here.
	And it's different because back in the day, back in the day, if you went on a date with somebody, and when I say back in the day, I don't know, let's say before dating apps, before social media, maybe 10, 20 years ago, whatever it is, or even back in the 1950s, if you went on a date with someone and you paid for them, there was a very high likelihood that it was going to go somewhere.
	But now people have so many options.
	People are seeing so many people at the same time.
	People are.
	I mean, I know there's a few outliers here.
	I think Natasha is one of them.
	Most people are dating multiple people at a time.
	So the chances.
	Why do you do that?
	Isn't dating exclusive?
	Well, when I say date, like to go on a date with a guy.
	Oh, because they're going a date on a guy to be dating someone.
	Is that really?
	This is within the context of a first date.
	Just say, like, going on dates with people with multiple people.
	Sure.
	Okay, going on dates with people.
	So there was previously an expectation that like if you went on a first date with someone, they probably weren't entertaining a whole bunch of options.
	But now I know average women, like unremarkable women that can have four or five dates lined up in a week easy.
	Average men can't do that.
	Average women can.
	And also there's this thing called a foodie call.
	I mean, I think you invented that word, I'm honest.
	I've never, I've never heard of that.
	They've done studies on this.
	I've never heard of that.
	Foodie call.
	No, I've only heard of that from you.
	Well, I am the resource of knowledge on these sort of topics.
	So women will go on dates with guys just for free dinner.
	Mustang guy.
	It's not the majority of women, but it happens.
	It's happened to me.
	Girl goes on a date with me.
	Or it could even be, even if it's not a foodie call, it could be, hey, I go on a date with a girl, and then she's just not feeling, there's not a second date.
	How about guys just stop buying girls food and do like a family?
	So I don't do that.
	Go to the beach.
	Go to the beach.
	That's free and fun.
	But some girls have an issue with them.
	There are definitely girls that are like.
	If she has an issue with that, then she's just trying to use you for your money and food.
	I would love to go to the beach.
	Sorry, that's what some women do.
	I would love to go to the beach.
	And I think that's a great date.
	Or get a coffee, do something low commitment.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't do dinner dates.
	You don't have to do that.
	Nobody's making you.
	So stop complaining about women using you for food or whatever.
	Honestly, that's true.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's really good.
	Like just put more effort into like coming up with something.
	There's so many things that you could do that would be more memorable than getting like an expensive meal, trying to impress her, something material, you know?
	Then you know like, oh, she's like a true one.
	Like she doesn't care about like material things like food or a fancy experience.
	She just wants to do something like memorable.
	That's fair enough.
	But I think it's a good thing.
	It filters off.
	Yeah, and my recommendation to men, and this has been my stance on this for a long time, first date.
	First off, I don't even like food dates to begin with.
	But first date, food, not a good call.
	You want to do something low commitment in the event.
	Maybe she's not feeling it.
	You're not feeling it.
	Meet for an hour, less even.
	You can always dip.
	If there's food involved, then they fucking.
	Exactly.
	You got to wait for the waiter cans, and then the waiter interrupts you while you're having a conversation.
	And then you can't get like talking.
	Oh, yeah, you're eating.
	It's like gross when you eat and stuff.
	Yeah, I just want to stop.
	We're like, oh, I think this is good.
	The food gets cold.
	The conversations are so forced on dinner dates, I feel like.
	Yeah.
	I feel like in an activity, like a conversation might flow out a little easier.
	An activity.
	Yeah.
	Okay, what's an example of?
	I'm doing golfing.
	I swear.
	I think I do a theme park.
	But okay, that costs money.
	The best one for a moment.
	A theme park for a first date?
	Y'all, that's extra.
	I don't know about that.
	I think the best one for me is a guy taught me how to surf.
	Oh, that's so funny.
	And I think that was the best thing ever.
	I mean, that's pretty extra.
	No, it's not.
	But it was filming.
	That's a whole he was a surfing instructor.
	And I'm, okay, so I met him at a party, like, literally the last night, the night before, and he was like, come surfing with me tomorrow.
	Like, you're not going to come.
	Like, I know you're not.
	And then I went.
	It was like literally the best time ever.
	And it was so fun.
	I learned how to surf.
	So, I mean, okay, so here's my thing.
	Well, I mean, did you have a wetsuit?
	Well, it was his.
	what time of year was it it was literally you are tall so maybe his wetsuit would have fit I don't know if you guys see, I have a surfboard behind me.
	I used to surf all the time.
	And like my whole thing is, honestly, like, I mean, you could take a girl out on a small day, but it's just like, you got to fucking teach her.
	I mean, it's a good date, but it's like, you got to get all the boards and go.
	It's a whole thing, right?
	For a first date.
	I feel like it's the same thing, like, surfing with your guys, but you get to talk to a girl.
	I don't like it.
	I was holding the surfboard the whole time.
	Like, he wasn't holding it for me.
	Like, I don't know what you got.
	But you got to push her into the wave.
	No, no, no.
	He's told me what to do.
	The first time.
	The first time.
	The first wave you ever caught, you paddled into it.
	I did.
	And you stood up in college.
	I paddled.
	He didn't push you.
	He didn't push me for anything, and I stood up by myself.
	You just told me how to do it.
	I'm being serious.
	All right, fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	That's right.
	He probably believe me.
	I mean, I've taught people to surf.
	He's a surfing instructor.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a good date, but that's a bigger commitment than just getting dinner.
	It was already already in his concert.
	You got to bring the surfboard to the beach.
	It's a whole thing.
	He was ready.
	They have a wetsuit.
	You can't first off in California.
	If it's the winter time.
	I didn't even have the wetsuit on me.
	I was doing it myself.
	Yeah, but okay, you're tall.
	So?
	Okay.
	Most guys aren't like, here, let me just keep an inventory of women-sized wetsuits.
	She's going to be freezing if it's in any time past October.
	Well, okay, so even in summer, you need a surface.
	He lives in a house with a bunch of.
	This is a very circumstantial.
	He lives in a house with a bunch of surfers, so he has a bunch of surfing gear of all different types of sizes.
	So it's pretty convenient for him.
	Yeah, no, I mean, it's circumstantial.
	Maybe not for you.
	I've done that once, but it's just like, honestly, for me, like when I went surfing, I wanted to go alone.
	So I don't want to take someone.
	Go alone, Brian.
	Not my problem.
	I'm a lone wolf.
	Not my problem, Mine.
	No one's still single.
	Okay, what about the people that are landlocked, that don't live in a coastal city and there's no waves?
	Okay, picnic.
	You don't need to even buy anything from the store.
	Get it from your pantry.
	I know your mom has like some chocolate covered strawberries or some shit.
	She's nice.
	She's nice.
	Okay, so anyway, so okay, we were, I don't know how we got into it.
	So the whole thing.
	Non-coastal people, picnics.
	Paying homes.
	Hiking is fun.
	Hiking is very fun.
	I think she should have paid him back.
	Huh?
	Oh, the girl, she should have paid him back.
	She should have paid him back.
	What?
	Yeah, that's insane.
	You would be that type of guy.
	You know what?
	You make women pay the first date.
	It depends.
	Not always.
	Depends.
	Do you go on first date?
	Do I go on?
	I mean...
	Do women like pay for you?
	Has a woman paid for me?
	Yeah.
	I remember you said one time she asked you for a burrito.
	She gave you a burrito.
	A Christian woman.
	Yes, a Christian woman 10 years ago.
	She asked, I don't even know if she asked me out on a date.
	I was like, hey, let's meet up sometime.
	And then she said, let's go this place.
	Let's go here.
	I'll pay.
	And I was like, okay.
	And she bought me a burrito.
	The one time.
	A burrito.
	Whereas we had a girl on like two shows ago who went.
	What?
	Is it time to take your birth control?
	Hey.
	Oh, my God.
	Why would you say that?
	I mean, you have an alarm on your phone.
	No, it's just, it's bedtime.
	It's nine o'clock.
	Time to go to sleep.
	Okay.
	So, anyways.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	She paid for my burrito.
	We had a girl on two weeks ago, and she was talking about, She got offered $1,000 for a Starbucks date, and she took it.
	She got paid $1,000 just to meet a guy for Starbucks.
	Now, this was off of a seeking arrangements sort of thing.
	But like, bruv.
	$1,000.
	Bruv.
	Bruv.
	I love that bruv.
	One time in my life, a girl paid for me.
	I'm so proud of you.
	Yeah, but she was waiting for marriage.
	So I was like, eh.
	You're nice.
	Thank you.
	Can I pay you for the burrito?
	I'm not nice enough.
	Can I pay you for the burrito?
	But she's like, no, it's okay.
	So there was no second date.
	Well, I mean, we were just, she wanted to wait until marriage to have sex, which, hey, good for you.
	Rock and roll.
	But like, for me, I'm okay.
	I'm a turn up.
	I'm all right.
	I'm all right.
	But maybe I should have taken her up on that.
	But anyways, yeah, I think, you know what?
	The lady in that thing, she should have paid him.
	Because I guarantee you, if you ask her, she's probably like, oh, yeah, I'm a feminist.
	I believe in equality, blah, blah, blah.
	But what happens if she doesn't pay?
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Yeah, she doesn't have to.
	Why does she have to pay then?
	Because she was provided value.
	She was provided of benefit.
	She got a free meal, right?
	Yeah, so why does she have to pay?
	What do you mean?
	She should pay her way, right?
	Why?
	She ate the food.
	She received the value.
	Yes, the free food that he bought for her.
	And?
	Yeah, at the date, yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Why does she have to pay for it?
	Good answer, Brian.
	Because she probably, on the date, was not genuinely interested in him.
	She could have split it right then and there.
	But she didn't.
	Why would you?
	But so why is it always falling on men?
	Well, why didn't he ask her to split it at the end?
	Why did he have to?
	Because he was trying to be a gentleman.
	Why did he ask her after to split it?
	Because she turned him down, and he spent this money on a date.
	Why does that matter, though?
	It's not because of the food.
	It's because of she didn't like your personality or whatever.
	She didn't like your persona.
	Right.
	So why does she have to pay?
	She doesn't have to pay.
	You said she should.
	So you're not telling me any reasons.
	Why?
	Okay, under those circumstances, why should she?
	Why should she pay?
	She turned him down.
	There was no way to get out of the way.
	Out of like courtesy or like what?
	Just to make sure he spent money on her as a romantic gesture.
	She has no romantic interest in him.
	Well, she didn't know that until after she met him, right?
	I mean, well, we don't know all the details, but.
	I think we should reach out to the girl.
	Yeah, we should ask her.
	Anyways, we're going to move on.
	We're going to move on from this.
	See, here's the thing.
	I'm an egalitarian, right?
	I believe people should pay.
	It should split.
	I believe in splitting the bill.
	Because you can't be feminist until the check comes.
	Feminism, equality, is not a buffet.
	You don't get to pick and choose.
	Oh, I want to.
	I'm an egalitarian until I'm drafted.
	Oh, Jesus.
	Okay.
	Anyways, we're going to move on from that.
	We're going to do a video reaction to Mr. Tate, Cobra Tate.
	Eric, if I can have you pull up the video good soon.
	Is he still coming on?
	Probably not because he got banned.
	The forehead one.
	Banned from what?
	You didn't hear about that?
	Hold on, we'll watch this and then.
	I think 99% of the world's problems would be solved if females walk through life with their body count on their forehead.
	Because it would prevent.
	Because it would prevent all of the disintegration of morals.
	It would prevent so many things about the world.
	Did you know what there's like a lot of people?
	And women would be like, to be with me as a man, I don't want to put another number on my forehead.
	You have to be a good man.
	They wouldn't stop being these idiots and stop being idiots.
	And all the idiocy would disappear.
	All the degeneracy would disappear.
	Families would return.
	Virgins meeting their first man, staying with him her whole life and being proud of it.
	Couldn't we go back to such a beautiful age?
	All we have to do is start putting numbers on girls' foreheads.
	We can fix everything.
	That attitude is disgusting.
	Okay.
	Your reaction to it.
	By the way, pop your glasses off.
	Oh, yeah.
	So I can't read the chat anymore.
	Your reaction to the video?
	I feel like he's literally just saying that a body count kind of just changes who you are as a person.
	And just affects your morals, but that's just not how it works.
	And I have a fairly low body count, but my body count compared to someone who's 15, we could have the exact same morals.
	That doesn't change anything.
	Or we could want the same thing in life.
	It just really doesn't change anything.
	Was he saying, like, oh, like, put the body counts of these women on their head and like on their forehead.
	Like, the true body count or what?
	Yes.
	You watched the video, right?
	I think I couldn't hear anything.
	I'm like, kind of deaf.
	Yeah, kind of show.
	I'm actually like really deaf.
	Like, he's just talking so fast.
	Basically, what he's saying is all the world's problems would be fixed if women.
	All the problems.
	Only women's problems.
	If only women had their body count.
	Or everyone had their body count.
	It's a bit of hyperbole, but he's saying women, if they have their body count on their forehead right here, it would fix everything.
	Fix all the problems in the world.
	Now, I think more specifically, let's try to keep it within the context of dating, but your reaction to that statement.
	We're going to go around the table.
	I'm going to get up for just a sec, so just continue on along the panel.
	Okay.
	Actually, I'll listen.
	I'll say it.
	Go ahead.
	I don't know.
	I just think that, like, I can see how a lot of men think that, oh, women are ran through or whatever.
	But, like, I don't know.
	Like, that's not going to solve everything, you know?
	But I know that body count does matter to a lot of people.
	It matters to me.
	And it matters, like, to people who want, like, especially people who want marriage first.
	Like, religious people.
	It matters, but not to that extent, is what I'm saying.
	You know?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I guess I kind of agree with Aline.
	I guess it's like personal preference, but like how he's saying, like, oh, like all women, like, okay, like, if you want to be like that, then why not, like, everyone?
	I don't know.
	I guess it's really like what you want out of someone.
	If you don't, if you feel a certain way about someone having like a high body count, then like that's you, you know, like do what you want to do.
	Yeah.
	Does anybody want some Red Bull, by the way?
	Oh my god, it's too late for me.
	I'm so tired.
	I have to step up.
	I'm gonna go to sleep after this.
	You wanna pour it in your cups?
	I'll get some more.
	Go on with your answers, though.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I think there's like a double standard with body count.
	Like, men, especially, like, in their friend circles, are praised for like having a higher body count while like women are demonized for it.
	So I don't know.
	I don't think it's that important.
	I don't think there's that much.
	Can we do that for the show?
	Is that okay?
	Personally, I don't think body count matters at all.
	And I'm coming from a perspective of someone who dates women.
	So I don't think body count matters at all.
	A person's body count doesn't determine what kind of person they are.
	And so I feel like anyone who does say that, like, oh, they can't have over this amount of bodies is just kind of seeing women as property and not as actual people.
	Natasha.
	Body count does matter.
	One million percent.
	You have Natasha Tate in the building, by the way, guys.
	Is it super overexposed, guys?
	I like how you can see the screen through my glasses.
	But yeah, body count does matter and especially matters to men.
	I was thinking about this while I was watching the video.
	Like, if you put your body count on your forehead and men, it's kind of like a weird example, but let's say like guys were out roaming free and they were able to be like, you know, let's say they were able to stand next to the girl that they find more desirable based on their body count.
	They're going to gravitate towards the girls with the lower body count.
	And now if the rules were reversed and guys' body counts were on their forehead, I think a lot of girls would go for the guys with the higher body counts.
	No.
	I don't think that's true.
	I don't think so.
	Body count, it really doesn't matter for men.
	Because when men to have a high body count.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And I've seen this happen in my own life and I've experienced this.
	And I hear it from guys in my friend group.
	They're all young and having fun doing whatever.
	But it's like when they have a hookup, they genuinely do not care about that girl beyond the physical realm.
	They do not care about if she dies tomorrow.
	Like, but for women, they have sex with a guy and they could be hooked on him for months.
	And women are just designed to be that way.
	Like, we are supposed to be loyal to the person that we're sexual with, and we are supposed to trust them and all that stuff.
	But guys, they can just fuck around and not care about girls.
	And yeah, just.
	So my question is: like, you're saying that body count does matter, but you're saying that you'd prefer a guy with a higher body count?
	I would prefer a guy that's more experienced.
	Wait, hold on.
	Natasha, I got to challenge you on this one.
	In one of the last podcasts, I don't remember which one it was, you said that you wouldn't want a guy that had a body count over five.
	I remember you.
	I remember that.
	I remember saying that.
	Is that still the case?
	No, it isn't.
	I realized after the podcast that it's unrealistic.
	That's she's she's adjusted her stance on this.
	Okay.
	So if you were a guy, would you want a girl with a lower body count?
	If I were a guy, would I want a girl with a lower body count?
	You guys take that probably right back.
	I...
	I would not.
	That one's hard because I am a woman and I don't judge women based on their body counts.
	I don't, like I, like you guys said, it doesn't really change who a person is.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	That's a hard one.
	That's a hard one because I'm not a guy.
	Yeah.
	And I want to believe that guys can could look beyond body count and all that stuff, but I think.
	But you're saying that body count does matter.
	Yeah.
	Like, as a woman, you're saying, I want a guy with a higher body count.
	I would like a guy who's more experienced.
	And you're saying that, like, body count for women, how would you say, like, a woman should have her body count?
	Should it be high or low or what?
	Like, you don't have to pretend you're a guy.
	You're just, like, in this day society, girls are age.
	Like, how high or low should our body count be?
	I don't think there's a number that I can say that a woman should be within.
	But I think you don't have to do a number, just high or low.
	I mean, I think low.
	And guys should be high.
	I don't think they should, but like, if it is high, I don't think it matters so much.
	Does it matter if a girl's body count is high?
	I think it's like for friends, like, like, if you had, if you're friends with a girl who had a high body count versus a girl with a lower body count, does that matter?
	No, it doesn't matter.
	Okay.
	Well, in relationships and dating.
	And yourself.
	Like, would it matter if you had a higher body count or a lower body count?
	How high would your self-worth be in your own self?
	I believe that when you have a higher body count, there's a good chance that somewhere along the line, you put yourself below the standard that you really could be at.
	You know, not every guy that you meet at a party is going to be a good man and who's going to treat you right, right?
	So if my body count was high, that means I was sleeping around with a lot of dudes that really didn't deserve me to be that way.
	And as for my self-esteem, that kind of does play into it because having a lower body count means that I'm being more selective because I know I deserve the guys that are higher quality.
	So you're saying that guys with high body count are more experienced, but that means that they don't get with girls.
	They don't pick girls who are more loving and they tend to not have those meaningful relationships that you might want in a guy.
	Yeah.
	And so they're having a lot of meaningless sex.
	Yeah.
	And so that's not necessarily something that you might want in a guy.
	And also, if he has a low body count, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's unexperienced.
	It could be like he's been in a long relationship and he's learned how to satisfy a woman.
	Obviously, he knows how to do all that, but he just has a low body count.
	It doesn't mean he's not experienced.
	So what's your take on that?
	I think that is true.
	I don't really know what to say in response to that, to be honest.
	Okay, what did I miss while I was gone?
	I saw a bunch of like red flag emojis in the chat.
	I was just wondering all the logistics per se.
	What did I miss?
	I'm not going to repeat that.
	You can re-watch it.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	Hey, Eric, did we get, okay, we got it.
	Nevermind, we're good.
	So I wanna just go around the panel.
	Kind of to bring it back a little bit to the video.
	Do you think you would be more selective with who you sleep with?
	Do you think your body count would be lower if you had your body count on your forehead?
	How do those two play with each other?
	How do those two play into you?
	Like, what would my body count being on my forehead and make me choose?
	I guess that makes sense actually I mean I mean I guess I mean I guess yeah I mean I'm already pretty selective Like, most of the people that I've slept with, I've been romantically involved with.
	But I feel like, yeah, that would probably cause me to be more selective.
	Probably just not want the number to go up.
	If it's like literally being like publicly viewed to literally everyone, do I want?
	We've gotten a lot of super chats.
	We'll go around on this and we'll do the super chats.
	Go ahead Melene, I think definitely.
	Yeah, like I'm gonna be honest.
	Yeah, like that's gonna affect who I, who I sleep with, because everyone that I know is gonna see that number.
	My parents are gonna see that number, kids are gonna see that number, people who interview me for jobs are gonna see that number.
	It's not just other guys.
	Like everyone's gonna see that number and I'm gonna try to keep it at a number.
	I want it to be because I value my self-image and that's, and I don't care what people say.
	Reputation is a real thing like it, how people treat you because of how they know, like what type of person you are.
	It's a real thing like you can't just not care and do whatever the fuck you want, because it affects how people treat you.
	Yeah, I agree, I think people are gonna look at you like differently, obviously.
	So I feel like I'd be more, I would want to be careful about that.
	Yeah, I mean, I think I'd be more like conscious of it.
	But also I could see a world in which like, there's just sort of, because everybody has their number, like displayed on their forehead, there's like a change in people and how people like perceive body count and people don't necessarily like put so much weight on it.
	Um, I don't think it would change anything for me.
	I'm not selective, but I don't think that like, body count really matters.
	So I don't, I don't know, I probably wouldn't change a thing sure, Natasha?
	Yeah, it would definitely affect how I feel about myself and because it would change the people that I attract into my life.
	So my next question is, should body count matter?
	I think they just had a whole debate about that.
	But I want, I want everyone no, I just want everyone to go around really quick if body count should matter, just a yes or no, I think, like to an extent into the mic, please.
	Yeah, I'm just gonna say yeah yes yes okay yes um maybe yeah, I'd say no.
	I'd say no Natasha, okay.
	So the chat's been asking, what's your body count?
	We'll start with Natasha three.
	I don't want to give a number but mine's relatively high can you break it down by men and women a lot more women than men but like a I don't know do you want to give a range Um, can we not do this?
	Yeah yeah, I don't know if this is on the internet and it's inappropriate, like jobs, because like we're young, we're yeah, we're like she's 18, she like, just what do you mean?
	Wait, let's not do this question.
	Does anybody want it?
	You can skip, but does?
	I've already done this question on other podcasts?
	Yeah, but there's new.
	There's new new people in the stream.
	Yeah, they can.
	You don't have to watch the other one.
	You don't have to answer.
	Yeah, they can watch the other one, but you don't have to answer.
	Okay, so skip.
	Do you want to skip?
	Just skip.
	All of us skip.
	Don't want to answer.
	I've already said in another one, they can look back.
	What's that?
	I've already said in the other podcast.
	They can look back at it.
	That you're what my body count, that you've asked, but oh, you've.
	Yeah, I know you've already said it yeah, but I mean there's people in the chat that it's okay, go look at two months ago, go look at another one, okay.
	So I missed a little bit about the back and forth between you two on body count.
	Let's see.
	What does chat think?
	We'll let chat guess.
	Well, I mean, if you guys omit your answers, then we do have to open it up to chat.
	So chat, you have to guess everyone's body counts.
	I guess you could guess mine included too.
	So I think do we have one more video?
	No, sorry, we have to get to super chats.
	We're going to do super chats.
	Okay, let's see.
	I believe we're on this one.
	Everyday Edgar, $10 Super Chat question for Post Malone.
	Who at the table would you turn out?
	Oh, for Post Malone.
	Okay, they're calling you Post Malone.
	What's rude?
	That they're calling her Post Malone?
	Yeah, it's like, it's whatever, it's the internet.
	I mean, the comments are going to be.
	I mean, they're giving people nicknames and stuff.
	We warned you, be careful.
	We warned you.
	Be careful with the chat.
	do you want to answer this one turn out by like like which i guess You don't have to.
	No, what is turnout?
	Well, I assume that means like, which girl would you hit up?
	Would you want to date?
	At the table.
	I have a girlfriend.
	I have a girlfriend, so nobody.
	Okay.
	Everyday Edgar, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Devon Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Quick question for the ladies.
	I know guys will reject girls for having itty bitties or looking like Jesus.
	Okay, but how would you feel if a 6'5 stud told you that you were too short for him?
	Huh?
	I'm 5'9.
	I'm 5'9.
	I'm like 5'8.
	Who's the shortest?
	Giselle, I think.
	I'm like 5'1.
	5'1?
	Yeah.
	What if a guy told you you're too tall for him?
	I'm too tall for him.
	You're too tall.
	I'm sorry, 5'1.
	4'11.
	I mean, I like women.
	I like very short women, so like 4'11, 4'10.
	I mean, I'll date.
	It's not like, I don't care.
	It's not like a deal breaker for me.
	I'll date a girl who's 6'5 ⁇ .
	I don't care.
	But yeah, sorry, you're just too tall for me.
	Yeah.
	Just too tall.
	All right, more power to him.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, Devon Jackson, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Let's see.
	Currency with the...
	I'll pull it up, but I don't know if I want to go into this.
	I mean, chat, give me, what do you guys think, chat?
	Do we move on?
	I don't know who Elliot Roger is.
	Who's Elliot Rogers?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, sorry, man.
	Like, we just can't talk about it.
	We're not going to talk about Elliot Roger.
	Devon Jackson, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Just put in more effort.
	Just put in more effort.
	Says the panel of women that never planned to first date in their lives.
	I've planned a first date.
	With a woman?
	Yeah, I pull, so it's not that hard.
	Okay, but so.
	But like, you're a bit of an outlier because you are bisexual, so it's a bit different for you, I think, versus like heterosexual women.
	Like most heterosexual women are really not initiating like that.
	So, I mean, he makes a very good point.
	And did someone at the panel say just put in more effort?
	What was this in response to?
	Does anyone know?
	This was probably like 30 plus.
	I think that's when we were talking about other dates other than going to get food.
	Oh, right.
	When we were talking about go on a surf date, you know.
	Yeah, I mean, it is kind of convenient since for y'all to say that when you've probably never planned a date, set up the date, set the time, all this stuff.
	So, I mean, Devon Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat, she goes, you get to talk to a girl.
	I've seen you talk for 10 minutes and can tell you you aren't that interesting.
	I'm not sure who this is.
	Who said this is Devon Jackson shooting shots at one of the girls on panel?
	I don't know.
	Do you guys, does one of you want to respond to Devon Jackson with the big subsequent $10 super chat?
	I'm willing to spend more money on these super chats than I would on the first date with any of y'all.
	Girls, he's shooting shots.
	You have an opportunity to fire back.
	Good for him.
	Good thing we aren't saved.
	No, he did it.
	He's not on super chats.
	He's spending money like being so butthurt.
	So it's like a child.
	Let's go chargers.
	Adolph Meowler.
	Okay, he's got the name back.
	Okay.
	Oh, God.
	I think it's okay, right?
	What do you think, Natasha?
	I think it's fine.
	That's fine.
	I mean, Meowler, can you change it to, I don't know, I don't know.
	Like, I don't want to be all PC.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Natasha's textbook example that no matter how hot she is, someone somewhere is tired of her.
	Okay.
	Damn, bro, the chat's been fucking brutal tonight.
	Okay.
	I'm not.
	Okay.
	Devon Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
	Do you want to respond to that, by the way, Natasha?
	I have no comment.
	I thought that last show, you were really nice.
	I don't know what happened.
	Maybe this is a compliment.
	No matter how hot I don't think it is.
	No, he's saying someone's tired of me.
	Oh, Devon Jackson with the big $50 Super Chat.
	We'll see like $50 soup chat from Mr. Devon Jackson.
	Yo, you want to see that?
	You know, all this money is going to Brian, right?
	Yeah.
	You're taking him on a date.
	Hey, Devon Jackson.
	We can go for a surf session.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Devon Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
	He's saying if women were more concerned about their body count, they would require men to be better men to sleep with them.
	All of the progress society has made was men improving themselves for women.
	I mean, that's definitely true because if women were more selective, men would have to work harder.
	I mean, the fact of the matter is, though, men already have to work hard to get laid as it is.
	I mean, yeah, you guys, if you guys are just going after the top 10 or 20% of men, yeah, they'll just hook up with you.
	But a lot of men have to become men, men have no like innate value.
	Sorry, sorry, let me rephrase that.
	Men have to create their value.
	Women are born with their value.
	So as a woman, you're 18, you're good looking, that's all you need to attract a partner.
	But for most men, it doesn't seem that easy.
	What's that?
	It does not seem that easy.
	Does not seem that easy?
	Well, what do you mean like attract a partner?
	Like, like you want to fuck?
	For a guy to be attractive, he has to become something.
	Unless he's just ridiculously good looking.
	He could bring value.
	Guys can be born good looking just like girls.
	Sure.
	But that's usually not throughout their life.
	A man's looks is not going to be enough to carry them.
	Okay, that's true.
	Okay, that's true.
	Like there's no 18-year-old dudes that are getting invited onto yachts by women in their 30s.
	I actually know a guy who has been.
	He's my age.
	Same guy, surfer guy.
	Yeah.
	He taught me how to surf.
	He said over here.
	He was in Europe and Croatia.
	His old sugar mommy put him on a yacht.
	He's my age.
	He's not even extremely good looking.
	He's cute.
	Not extremely good looking.
	He's not super tall.
	Is he Croatian?
	Because maybe that's his fucking aunt or some bullshit.
	He's from San Diego.
	Okay.
	Well, he's like 5'11.
	I mean, that's the exception, not the rule.
	For an 18-year-old guy to get into a room with a man who's very high status, who's like blue checkmark, Drake, bro, you got to be providing some value.
	An 18-year-old girl, any girl here at this panel, you can be maneuvering and moving in rooms with some very, very high-status men.
	That's why I'm saying, like, for women, it's a lot, like, attracting people is a lot easier for women because I feel like we're being chased and we're not doing the chasing.
	And that's just how most things are.
	Like, most of the time.
	I'm saying most of the time.
	But there are exceptions, you know?
	But going to like parties or clubs or whatever, girls kind of just have to stand there and guys will come up to them.
	But for guys, I've said this before, guys, they kind of have to grab their fucking balls, go and talk to a girl, you know?
	Like, or else nothing's going to happen.
	They stand there all night, nothing's going to happen.
	They got to do something about it, you know?
	True.
	Yeah.
	True.
	Life as a woman is easier in terms of attracting partners.
	I want to open it up to the panel on what Aline just said.
	Your thoughts.
	What'd you say?
	Guys, I said attracting partners as a woman is easier than men.
	100% agree.
	Yeah.
	I'm pretty sure a lot of people agree.
	Basically, if I'll frame it as a question, is dating harder for men or women?
	That's a totally different thing there.
	Yeah.
	Attracting partnerships.
	And then versus dating it.
	Yeah.
	Like attracting a partner at a party.
	Dating is very, very hard, especially here.
	Especially for women.
	Especially for women.
	Is it harder for men or women?
	For men?
	Generally.
	I think it's easier for men to date here because a lot of women, there's a lot of women here that want to die.
	It's easier.
	I've seen so many couples in the middle of the year.
	Yeah, it's easier.
	It's actually insane.
	I think it's easier for men to date women here because I feel like a lot of women, there's not even not a lot, but there's a good amount of women who are over this hookup culture and they kind of just want a relationship.
	But there's almost every guy, every attractive guy, almost every attractive guy is in the hookup culture.
	So the very few guys that want to date, it's very easy for them to get a girlfriend.
	But girls, I'd say not really.
	Well, is that because, I mean, I kind of disagree with your premise, but is that because women are chasing after the top 10 or 20% of the men?
	No, no, no.
	It's because, like I said before at the beginning of the podcast.
	By the way, that's actually not a question.
	I want to reframe that.
	That's a statement.
	That is a fact.
	Women are chasing after the top 10 and 20% of men and disregarding all the rest.
	Go ahead.
	I'm saying like these attractive men, they have these options.
	Right, they have no reason.
	They have no, why would they date when they have so many pretty girls lined up for them?
	They get to fuck all of them and body count doesn't matter for men, apparently, right?
	If they get a high body count is what you're saying.
	Yeah, if they get a high body count, then they get to brag about it to their guy friends.
	Sure.
	Like, oh my God, I fuck this girl.
	Like, it's a good thing for them.
	Yeah.
	Being an attractive male is a good thing for them.
	But they don't want to date.
	And girls want to date them because they're attractive.
	Girls don't want to date unattractive guys.
	Well, part of that.
	Can you agree with that?
	Like, girls like attractive guys.
	Yes, I don't think.
	It wouldn't necessarily 10 to 20%.
	They're not like successful or anything.
	We're all college kids.
	I'm saying like well, yeah, I mean, most, but okay, so yes.
	When you're in college, if you're between the ages of 18 or 21, you're probably less interested in the guys' status and financial situation.
	It's honestly just going to be looks, physical attractiveness.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I think my thing is, though, is that if you're you should only obviously, if you're not attracted to a guy, that's an issue.
	But my thing is, is that do women have an unreasonable self-assessment of their own attractiveness?
	And also, do women find the vast majority of men as unattractive?
	And they've done these studies on these dating apps where women are just swiping right, and it's like they're either 10% of the guys on the dating apps that they find attractive in person.
	If you only find, let's say, we can go around the panel really quick on this.
	What percentage of men would you say you find attractive?
	What percentage?
	Like 30%.
	30% men?
	Okay.
	Honestly, for me, at this point, my brain has like figured it out.
	And I'm like, attractive guys, I know that they're not in it for the long run.
	So I kind of just dig kind of low and I like a little bit unattractive, but not like.
	Yeah.
	That's like the children's.
	I feel like a lot of women are getting on this wave, but like they're not super hideous, but they're not like hot.
	You know, they're like the average Joe.
	You know, they'll treat you right, but they're not going to fucking play you.
	You know?
	So this is what a lot of women I think are going for.
	A happy medium, you know?
	Like, I see hot guys.
	I kind of just don't like it.
	They're just too hot.
	Like, I know, like, they're just fucking like bunnies.
	So.
	Fair enough.
	Go ahead.
	What was the question?
	Sorry, one more time.
	Of the men that you see on a day-to-day basis or you see on dating apps, what percentage of them would you say you find attractive?
	I don't know.
	I'm not really looking.
	When you're hypothetically, you're not before your boyfriend.
	I would say like not a super high amount.
	Percentage.
	10%.
	Do you find attractive?
	Yeah, the percentage of men that you find attractive.
	20.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'd say like 30.
	Sure.
	I'd say like 20.
	Natasha?
	Probably same like 20, maybe 20%.
	Okay.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	So I don't even know where we were going with all that.
	We're going to average it and put it on an Excel sheet.
	Yeah, we're going to figure that out.
	Well, this was the super chat.
	And we kind of went all over the place with that.
	But anyways, we're going to continue with the super.
	Yeah, we already did that one.
	That was just the one.
	I was pulling it back up.
	We're going to move on.
	Devon Jackson, $10 Super Chat.
	Thank you, man.
	It's ridiculous to think who you've allowed into your body has no effect on who you are as a person.
	Do you guys want to respond really quickly to that?
	I agree.
	Like, it does affect who you are as a person, but it doesn't affect it 100%.
	It's not going to define who you are, but it does affect a little bit, just like everything else will affect you.
	All your friends will affect you.
	Your childhood household will affect you.
	Everything's going to affect you, but not 100%.
	It's not going to define you.
	Sure, sure.
	Devon, thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
	Wally, would you date a cross-dresser?
	Okay, $10 an up, just a reminder.
	Jameis with the $10 Super Chat, put Natasha on with the girls from Dating Talk number 16.
	That's the one with Minnesota Girl, by the way, Brian.
	Honestly, I don't remember what the panel was, but let's see.
	Yeah, well, maybe I'll have to remember which girls those were, but thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
	Devon Jackson with the big $50 Soup Chat.
	I'm disappointed with the no clap backs.
	Ladies, you got your opportunity.
	I mean, you kind of clap backed a little bit, but.
	Go spend your money on something else.
	No, don't listen to her.
	Devon Jackson, your patronage is deeply appreciated on the whatever podcast, my friend.
	Anthony Lopez with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Hypothetically, describe the best scenario for meeting someone organically.
	It could be a time of day, location, potentially a monogamous relationship.
	Okay, really quick, just best place to meet someone.
	I can't like think, I feel, what's like a good place to meet someone?
	Maybe like school, I mean like at a party, people are going to parties most of the time, you know, if they're like, you know, people are going to parties with like most of the time to find like something to fuck that night.
	So I feel like school, like people are there like for to get like an education.
	So I feel like that's probably like the best.
	Like you can just already get like a sense of a person there based on the fact that they're at school.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Aline.
	I think like a good place would be like the library or school or class, but I don't think it happens enough because everyone's just like, oh my gosh, they're studying.
	I don't want to interrupt them.
	Like it's just too academic, you know?
	It's too, everyone's all focused and listening to the teacher and everything.
	It's just like not a great time.
	But I feel like a lot of people would appreciate it more.
	Wait, Lonnie, don't hide from the microphone.
	I'm just like, I'm tired.
	We're going to wrap soon.
	What was the question?
	Sorry.
	Oh, like best scenario for meeting someone organically.
	Organically.
	Honestly, anywhere.
	Like if you're just out and you see someone, you approach them, I don't know, in public, anywhere.
	Yeah, I mean, I agree.
	Like, I think school is a good one, especially if there's somebody in your class.
	And like, I know it's weird if it's like an academic setting, but like after class, you already have something in common.
	You might have the same major.
	Like, that's an easy one where you like already have something in common, something to talk about.
	Go ahead.
	Just like any social event, if you're talking and hanging out with your friends, like they're going to bring their friends that you don't know.
	I feel like that's a good place.
	I would say anywhere other than a party or a club.
	I agree.
	Oh, I guess I can answer the question.
	Definitely not a bar, club, or party.
	I don't really drink much.
	Barely drink.
	Don't party, don't go to the bars, don't go to the clubs.
	And I don't think you should.
	I'm starting a frat.
	What's that?
	But you're starting a frat.
	Delta out of the kappa, baby.
	It's in the works.
	It's in the works.
	You can be an honorary member.
	Okay.
	Sounds like a cool.
	All right.
	Devon Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Yes, I do know where the money is going.
	I get paid.
	I'm not sure exactly what this is in response to, but.
	Because we were saying, like, he was the one who sent the 50.
	Yeah.
	We're like, bro, like, what are you doing with your money?
	Devon Jackson is a very, where's Mike Davis, by the way?
	You should invite him on the show.
	I have.
	You know what?
	He...
	John Jackson?
	Wait, no, Mike Davis.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I've got Devon Jackson on the show.
	He's like, he could potentially DM me.
	Devon Jackson, send me a DM.
	Let's get you one.
	Okay.
	Wicket 11988 with the, I believe this is check currency.
	If you're still in the chat, can you confirm if this is a Czech currency?
	Is it Czech crowns?
	I don't know.
	But hey, thank you for the big $200 check crowns.
	Much appreciated.
	Tasha, you are awesome.
	Do you have a response to Mr. Wicket one?
	Thank you, Mr. Wicket.
	Appreciate you.
	Thank you for the big super chat, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Nerd Lonnie.
	Hey, look, that's you.
	Bro, what is that?
	Someone was quick on the.
	That is terrible.
	That is a terrible picture of me.
	What do you mean?
	It looks good.
	Please remove that mic.
	I'm smarter than I act and sound.
	I promise.
	That's Canadian, by the way.
	So that might be fun.
	Is that like, is that supposed to be me saying that?
	Because I am smarter than I act and sound.
	So thank you.
	Okay.
	What the fuck did I just see on the screen?
	Have you been enjoying chat, Lonnie, or no?
	No.
	No, bro.
	I feel like they are still bringing up Harvey here every once in a while.
	Okay.
	By the way, we do need more people to do these little funny things where you like take a little clip from the podcast and pretend to be someone on the panel.
	It's fun.
	It's fun, guys.
	It's funny.
	Yeah, it's funny.
	It's a terrible picture.
	And we're going to wrap up here pretty soon, guys.
	So if you want, get your last-minute super chats in.
	Once again, I will read answer super chats $10 and up.
	So get them in, guys.
	We're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
	I'm trying to remember if we have one more video.
	Can you go to the video tab really quick just so I can see if.
	Okay, we have.
	Scroll up, scroll up, all the way up, all the way up.
	Wait, no, scroll up.
	Hold on, um, make, wait, sorry, just leave it there, uh, um, Yeah, we'll do the girls approach guys one.
	Really cool.
	I've got a video.
	Imagine if guys were hit on the same way that girls are hit on.
	Like, imagine, like, you're a guy at a bar and a girl comes up and it's just like, damn, bro.
	Shit, I saw your package from all the way across the bar.
	God damn, that bull, man.
	Shit, look at them arms.
	Them shits are bascular.
	Look at them.
	Vain.
	I don't even.
	Wait, is this a prank?
	Can I buy you a drink?
	Shit, dude.
	I'm going to treat you right.
	I'm going to treat you right.
	Let me cook for you.
	Let me clean for you.
	Let me do your laundry, bitch.
	Spring that ass over here.
	Like, what?
	Okay, so that's, I guess that's a girl like trying to say, oh, imagine if we went up to guys, the horror, right?
	But in reality, like, vast majority of men would be fucking super for it because most men get absolutely no attention.
	Most men to most women are invisible.
	Did someone spill, by the way?
	What happened there?
	Was it Red Bull?
	Yeah, sorry.
	Can we get some, yeah, we'll clean it up after the show.
	So, yeah, most men are invisible.
	It's Eric, it's all right.
	We'll get it after the show.
	We'll do that after the show.
	So your guys' thoughts.
	I want to ask, have any of you ever approached a guy?
	Yeah.
	Y'all?
	Yes.
	Okay, tell us about that one.
	I mean, just like, it's not even like a one-time occurrence.
	I mean, if I'm closer towards you.
	Like, I'm just going to hug it, like, at this point.
	Hello?
	I mean, it's not even like a one-time occurrence.
	Like, I'm at a party and I find a guy checked.
	Like, I'm just going to go up and start a conversation.
	Can you still not hear me?
	Go ahead, continue.
	I'm listening.
	I just, I mean, yeah, I go up to guys at parties or whatever.
	I mean, or I hit them up on social media.
	Like, it's not that rare.
	So you've approached a guy at a party.
	What do you say?
	No, I like want to say I say hey, but I watched one of the segments where you guys were like hating on like the whole like thing of like saying like hey at first.
	Well that's that was for Bumble.
	Oh I mean yeah I just like go like hey like where you the classic where are you from like sorry but I'm gonna use that okay let's roleplay I'm I'm the dude that you're hitting on at the party.
	Okay we're at the party.
	Okay.
	Okay go ahead.
	What?
	I'm not an actress.
	Approach me.
	Oh like hey like where are you from?
	Like it's just like that.
	And then it's like that's your opening line?
	It works every time.
	She doesn't have to say anything else.
	I mean like a girl came up to a guy like guys don't have to guys they have to like come with something like nice to say.
	Tilt the microphone up a bit.
	Got off the bus.
	But a guy like came up to me like in a like in like color and just like immediately started like I don't know like praising me like over dramatically like I wouldn't like be all over that if that makes sense.
	So your opening line is hey where are you from?
	Yes.
	If a guy came up to you at the party and was like hey where are you from?
	Yeah I would respond.
	That'd be okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Go on.
	You were saying something?
	Oh I was just saying how like it's a girl approaching a guy like she doesn't have to say anything special.
	She just has to say something.
	But a guy he he has to say something special like maybe like a one-liner or like something like complimenting her.
	Like that's usually how it's gonna go.
	Yeah um sorry what was the question?
	No.
	Sorry.
	So have you ever like approached a guy and no honestly no.
	Okay go ahead.
	I'm sure I have like in a party scenario but I can't think of like a specific instance.
	Sure.
	I haven't approached a guy but I've approached girls.
	I have approached a guy.
	What was your opening line?
	It's funny.
	It happened so fast I don't even remember what I said, but it worked out well.
	I mean I think it mostly works out well.
	Like she was saying for girls it's always kind of easy.
	I mean I don't approach guys but like to like in like a romantic context but if I see something like that they're wearing I'm like usually I'm from San Diego so I if I see like like Chargers or San Diego Padres I'm like oh my god are you from San Diego?
	I don't say it because I want to hit on them.
	I'm just saying it like, oh my gosh, like we might be neighbors, like it's not me trying to hit on that.
	Is that weird?
	Like I don't know.
	I don't know, maybe a little bit.
	Maybe they probably think I'm hitting on them.
	Huh, I mean, I think that's actually one reason women say that they don't like to compliment guys because they'll think oh, the guys will think oh, she's hitting on.
	Oh my gosh, me and Giselle, we were like, literally right before this, there some guy came up to us.
	He's like, is there any like bars or anything happening tonight or anything going on?
	We're like, no, we just thought he was like new and he was a tourist.
	But then he was like, can I get your guys's number?
	And then we finally realized that he was hitting on us.
	We just thought he was like we, he like didn't know where anything was, like he was new, like it just happened.
	So he's basically being indirect and I don't, I don't know like I just we just didn't know that he was hitting on us.
	We just thought he was weird sort of asking.
	So I do want to go back to the whole thing about, Because you guys push back a little bit on this, and I appreciate it.
	That dating is harder.
	I don't know if you guys said dating is harder for women.
	You kind of did.
	Sort of, ish.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you're harder.
	Did everyone get an opportunity to respond to that?
	I think so.
	Natasha, did you give your take?
	I don't think I did, but I would say that dating is, I would say it's harder for men.
	I think obviously women have a lot more options.
	And that makes it easier for women to go out and find a guy.
	Word?
	I think dating is difficult for unattractive men.
	I mean, sure, the more attractive you are, the better your prospects are.
	But I would actually say that even it's even.
	OK, so let's talk just getting laid.
	Just getting laid, an average woman can outperform even like a top-tier guy when it comes to getting laid.
	Yeah.
	so there's already some advantages there and also women don't really like some women initiate but like i would say if you had to compare it a top tier male model looking guy is going to get initiated upon at about the same level as like an average looking girl on dating apps I don't really know what to do with it.
	feel like it's like easier for women to have more options but that doesn't mean it's easier for them to like actually find a boyfriend i feel like more times like girl maybe i'm wrong but i feel like more times girls want the relationship more than like a guy does So like if a girl has like so many guys like hitting her up, that doesn't mean like she can just pick one and they're going to start dating.
	I feel like it's harder for them to actually find a guy who's going to want a relationship.
	And like for the guy, I don't know, you know, like you're, yeah, I don't know.
	Why do you think it's harder for women to find relationships?
	Because I feel like oftentimes like guys don't want them.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's like less common for a guy to be like seeking out the relationship.
	because men say it with your chest I would I will say that shit with my chest.
	Like, men do not want relationships because they literally want to fuck multiple people at once.
	Like, because one girl is just never good enough for them.
	Especially like, even married men, one girl is not enough.
	Men want variety.
	Yeah.
	Especially at a young age, men, men, they can fuck a lot, but like, especially when they grow older, they can still fuck a lot.
	But women, as they grow older, they want a relationship.
	Men want kids and family.
	But I feel like.
	And then they cheat on the girl that they have the kids with usually.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Women have to carry the children.
	Women carry the children.
	Men spread their seed.
	What's that?
	Women actually cheat more than men.
	Women cheat more than men.
	We're just better at children.
	And y'all cheat for more fucked up reasons.
	Like, guys will cheat just because they're horny, but they could still love each other.
	a girl cheats like that shit is so like deeply rooted like you have like it's the men's fucking up Like, I don't know, like, guys, like, they could have, like, the perfect girl, and they're just, like...
	Zero accountability.
	Go ahead, continue.
	Am I supposed...
	Whatever.
	What am I supposed to be taking account for here?
	I'm just saying.
	Go ahead, continue, continue.
	I'll respond.
	Like, in like relationships, like, when like a girl cheats, it's usually for like love and affection.
	And when like a guy cheats, it's usually simply just for, like you said, like a variety of pussy.
	But like, it's just so much like women cheat for such like a deeper reason.
	I feel like and then like for men it's just like a surface level shit.
	See a man can cheat on you and still be in love with his girl.
	But for a woman to cheat yeah huh?
	I think I think a woman can cheat and still like love the guy she's with I think cheating in general is not loving the other person.
	Yeah.
	If you love if you genuinely love them you wouldn't cheat on them.
	Now I'm not recommending people cheat, but what I'm saying is that a man it can just be it's just need to get off like you could go to your girlfriend.
	I mean in a long distance in a long distance thing like you know like that makes sense right I think exhibit A over here.
	Exhibit A.
	But like if you're like bro like if you're like five minutes away from your girlfriend and you're still like fucking another bitch like what like just like I don't even fucking know like that shit does not make sense to me.
	So I don't necessarily agree with this but some men will say that the best pussy is new pussy.
	I don't agree with that because I'm a gentleman.
	I'm a man of God.
	I am a man of God but but that is a thing.
	But you know the thing is also what's really interesting is why is why is it that women push so hard and I know this isn't all relationships are different.
	I'm like awake now.
	But what's that?
	I'm like awake now.
	You're awake?
	Here drink some more of the red bowl.
	I brought that out by the way.
	I mean, we're gonna anyway.
	So where was I something about men not being domestic, something about cheating or something?
	Open, this new word, my teeth.
	Oh, your nails.
	You can't.
	Are your nails too long?
	They're grown out yet, okay.
	So why is it that women push so hard, so desperately want commitment from a man, want monogamy, and yet you often hear like also women complaining, don't do that.
	You also hear women complaining when they're in relationships.
	He's always up on me, he always wants to fuck, like da da da da, so like and I I know that's not the case for all women, some women are just always down, but I hear this complaint sometimes from women, he always wants to fuck.
	The other news flash, well okay, but there's.
	You definitely hear this in marriages that it's the woman that's like.
	I guess the dead bedroom is on the woman's side.
	Yeah marriages, it gets long, old and like, but but you wanted the commitment, you wanted the ring, so you're the one who's.
	You want monogamy.
	That's why i'm scared of marriage.
	Like, like.
	I'm like I have to pick someone that i'm gonna be in love with like forever.
	I'm gonna be totally excited to do things with them forever, like.
	If you're not gonna be like that, then that's not marriage worthy for me, you know.
	But I think for women and like, why they want commitment so much more than men is because they have so many offers of from men to fuck.
	Like women just want stability yeah, so like, if like women, if they wanted to, they could, but that's easy for them.
	They want something that's That's challenging, that's growing them, that's pushing them, they want intimacy, they want closeness, they want like just a partner.
	And like men crave that too, but they just happen to crave it from multiple women.
	They crave something that they don't have.
	Everyone craves something they don't have.
	And I do think, like, there is definitely some conversations about, like, men are only as faithful as their options, but I actually, I kind of disagree with that.
	I do.
	There's a saying that goes, men are only as faithful as their options.
	So if a man has a lot of options, he's not going to be faithful.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, my take is, is I do genuinely think men can be monogamous.
	And there are plenty of men out there that can be monogamous.
	But it happens to be the case.
	If you're chasing after very high-status men or very attractive men, because they have so many options.
	And also, it's just like a lot, I'm going to be upfront.
	A lot of women are not bringing anything to the table besides sex.
	They're not adding value to his life besides just sex.
	And for a lot of guys, a lot of men, that's all they want, right?
	But for like the guys you're probably chasing after, you're going to have to provide some value besides just your pussy.
	Besides just sex.
	Because like I said before, if pussy's all you offer, pussy's all I want.
	So the top tier guys are going to be thinking like that.
	So, I mean, but just to bring it back to the cheating thing, a man can fuck a girl, cheat, and still love his girlfriend, his wife.
	But if a woman cheats, how is it different?
	Yeah.
	How's it different?
	Why is it different?
	Well, just like she said, women will cheat for like emotional reasons.
	Yeah, so it's like, I mean.
	So men can't cheat for emotional reasons.
	For most women to want to sleep with someone, trust me, I know there's girls out there with 100 body count.
	They're just running through dudes.
	They're totally into casual sex.
	Hey, that's fine.
	Whatever.
	Do your thing.
	But some women certainly can detach emotion from sex.
	But for a lot of women, for them to be interested in a guy and to sleep with a guy, there's going to be some component of I potentially see something there with him.
	There's like an emotional thing.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	That was like the best point you made all night.
	100%.
	Well, thank you for the endorsement.
	No Elonie.
	Did I say it right?
	Fuck.
	We'll have to practice.
	We'll get you back on.
	Next time, I'll get it right.
	So did anyone want to come in on this whole thing, the cheating thing, Natasha, anybody?
	I still think if you cheat, you just don't love your partner.
	I mean, like, if a girl cheats on a guy, she doesn't love him.
	If a guy cheats on a girl, he doesn't love her.
	Like, whether it's emotional, it's emotional or physical.
	It's like if a guy's stuck with a girl because of the physical reasons, then that kind of just shows that his girlfriend just simply was not enough for him, and that's not loving her.
	Loving is giving everything and loyalty and respect, having everything between yourselves.
	Like, it doesn't extend outside of that.
	I've loved every girlfriend I cheated on.
	Fuck you, Mario.
	So just to respond to your point, so, and I think that was in response to my statement about how if men cheat, they can still love their girl.
	Like, they can, so if you were to ask most men that if their girlfriend was okay, if she was still loyal to him, but if his girlfriend was okay with him sleeping with other women and there would be no repercussions and nothing at all.
	That's an open relationship.
	That's not Most men, wouldn't most men desire that?
	That your main chick is okay with you sleeping with other women, but she's still loyal to you.
	I think most men, if you ask them, would be.
	Okay, I agree with that.
	I agree with that.
	But if you're looking, if you're looking for the best top-tier men, they're not going to do that.
	Well, actually, they're more likely to do that.
	No, no, I'm not hearing like good status.
	Like good men.
	Yeah.
	Good men.
	Yes.
	They're not going to do that.
	Yeah.
	But I'm not saying like Adam Levine type men.
	Right.
	I'm speaking like men with a lot of status, men who are wealthy or the top-tier men in terms of looks.
	I'm talking about good men.
	Men who want relationships.
	Men who want like commitment and a family and just like a strong household.
	You know?
	Fair enough.
	They're not going to do that.
	I want to go, maybe one or two more questions.
	Do any of you have a celebrity crush?
	So either an actor or musician or athlete, just a guy who you think is super attractive that's notable?
	Anakin Skywalker.
	What's the actor's name?
	Christen Haydenson.
	Okay, he's a bit older, though.
	That was like 20 years ago.
	Christian Haydenson.
	I've had a crush on him since I was a kid.
	Okay, so wait.
	Okay, so Christian Haydenson or whatever.
	Do you have a celebrity crush or anything?
	Not that I can think of.
	Maybe I need like 30 seconds.
	Growing up, my celebrity crush was Nick Jonas.
	Oh, yeah, me too.
	I literally had like the Jones Brothers altogether.
	Me too, yeah.
	Hayden Christensen, he's 41 years old, by the way.
	Go ahead.
	He was young.
	Young Hayden Christensen.
	Okay.
	Any celebrity crush or anything?
	I would say Jack Harlow, and for the longest time, I didn't see the hype.
	And I don't think he's necessarily, okay, Eileen.
	I don't think he's necessarily the most physically attractive, but he's just so charismatic and appealing in that way.
	Sure.
	Did you come up with one?
	Hi, Sweetie.
	Oh, yeah.
	Clay Thompson.
	Clay Thompson?
	Is that a football player?
	Oh, basketball player.
	Over here?
	Megan Fox, probably.
	She's a babe, for sure.
	I'd probably say like young Leonardo DiCaprio.
	I was thinking about that.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's in my head, too.
	Yeah.
	Definitely babe status.
	Okay.
	Young Ryan.
	I think we should have those name.
	I think the panel should get buttons, too.
	So we can do that.
	Next show, I'll get you a stream deck.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, The Beach.
	What was that movie?
	Was it The Beach with Leo?
	The Beach?
	Huh?
	I haven't heard of that one.
	Is that?
	Oh, I think I know what you're talking about.
	The one where he's like in Thailand and he goes to this island, Kofifi, I think.
	Anyways, in chat, is it called The Beach?
	The film, you guys know what I'm talking about.
	Anyways.
	So think of your celebrity crush.
	Would you be willing to share him with other women, but you're the main chick?
	Clay Thompson.
	You're the main chick, but you have to share him.
	No, I just like wouldn't even do that.
	NBA, very famous NBA player, tall, taller than your current player.
	I'll stick to my inconsistent 6'5 baseball player.
	Thank you.
	Is he a white boy?
	Yeah, he's strawberry blonde.
	He's almost ginger.
	Okay, go ahead.
	No.
	You would not share young Hayden Christensen?
	No, I don't care.
	Okay.
	I said I don't care about status or fame if they're not going to like the whole thing.
	I would not share either.
	No.
	No.
	I would.
	You would.
	So you would share young Leonardo DiCaprio.
	For a chance with Leonardo DiCaprio, yes.
	Yeah.
	And young Leonardo Diablo.
	He'll drop you when you're 25.
	Oh, yeah, we should pull that up.
	That's true.
	I'd be living well until then.
	Nice yacht.
	A little party.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And I mean, if I mean, you can use him for his yacht.
	From what I've heard of young Leonardo DiCaprio, I mean, even current Leonardo DiCaprio.
	He got around.
	Definitely got around.
	Yeah.
	Sam Newton.
	I want to open it up.
	Last thing, guys.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I want to open it up to you guys.
	Final thought or question, either for if you want to ask the panel, you want to ask me something, Natasha, we'll start with you.
	Final thought or question?
	I'm surprised.
	I feel like we all have a lot of the same opinions on things.
	I think none of us like hookup culture.
	None of us like guys who cheat necessarily.
	So yeah, I think we can skip me until I maybe think of something.
	Yeah, I don't have anything.
	I have nothing.
	Yeah.
	I don't have anything.
	No, okay.
	Nothing.
	Who was the one who wanted to dump more trauma?
	Oh, my God.
	Was that you?
	Okay, one segment that you did that I watched.
	I really liked listening to the people's dance.
	It was like you asked if a relationship should be equal partnership.
	I like that question.
	I should go ask the panel that.
	Okay.
	We'll do that.
	So what's your answer?
	Oh, I have to go first.
	So I think talked about if it was 50-50.
	And I think when you're considering an equal partnership in a relationship, you have to consider outside factors.
	And not everyone is capable of the same amount of effort you are.
	And I would be okay if in a 60-40 relationship, I'm giving 60% and they're giving 40% if that's all they're capable of doing, as long as it's like, you know, it's like as much effort as they can put and their best foot is being put forward.
	And then like, I mean, like, I don't know if that's considered equal partnership, but I think that you have to just consider the outside factors that affect how much effort someone is able to put in.
	What's the percentage split on your current relationship?
	70-30.
	70-30.
	I had to do that.
	You're doing 70 and he's doing 30.
	I would say that.
	I mean, it's not.
	No, okay, it's not even like that because I'm like someone who like matches energy to a T.
	So like whatever like I want to put in like 100 million, 10%, but like I'm not going to do that because I'm literally just going to match whatever he does.
	So it's not even that.
	It's like honestly like I would say it's like 55, 45.
	Like I don't even know.
	It's just like I'm just going to match whatever, however he acts.
	So yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you believe in 50-50 relationships?
	Yeah, but I personally like when the guy puts more effort because it's just more romantic and it's just, it feels like he's providing and I'm like, and I feel like the woman is like, you know, giving, being there for like emotional support, whatnot.
	And like, the guy provides material comfort and like it's just more strong that way.
	I feel like.
	Yeah, I think 50-50 is a good like relationship dynamic.
	I think if you're going to be in a relationship, then you guys are both, you know, a team and helping each other out.
	So I think it should be 50-50.
	Yeah, I would second everything she just said.
	I think it should be 50-50.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Like, as long as you're giving 100% of your effort or whatever you can give to your partner, then it's 50-50.
	I think it's hard for relationships to be 50-50, especially if the man is like the provider in a family because he's obviously going out and exerting more work into the world.
	He's, you know, getting money, getting, you know, working and stuff.
	But I think the woman also serves a really important role in the relationship.
	I think like being like a housewife and like taking care of children is really, really important to their relationship as well.
	And it puts a lot of like help into the relationship.
	You're putting a lot of effort by staying home and taking care of children.
	It's a really big role and it's super time consuming and exhausting.
	And I think that that is pretty much 50-50.
	You're staying home, taking care of the kids, and the man provides money, and that's pretty much 50-50.
	And I think that's what I'm saying.
	I know, but how can you do like 50-50 in like a relationship at like 18-19, though?
	Because that's like years away.
	It might be the best time to do 50-50 is when you're young.
	Because when you start getting older, and then finances come into picture, then that's when it gets very complicated.
	You're just hanging out.
	Nobody's really paying for other people's stuff.
	Nobody's putting food on the table.
	You're not living together.
	It's more of like you're just dating.
	And it's light and it's fun.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and also there's been a lot of comments in the chat saying 100, 100.
	I think that's a good attitude to have towards this.
	Both people and stuff.
	I'm saying like 100%, 100%, but like people's 100% look different and you just have to like know your person and know what their 100% looks like because my 100% can look a lot different from like.
	What's your 100%?
	A lot.
	But I never like get to, I never, I feel like I never get to show my 100% effort because like I said, I'm such like a match energy.
	I just want to back up and just like, I'm such like a match energy when it comes to like relationships.
	And I haven't had a guy who's like shown so much effort that it wouldn't like feel invalidating to do like all the things that I do want to do for him.
	If that makes any sense.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think you are dating younger guys.
	Yeah.
	But I like, I don't like to see myself like dating anyone older.
	That's not what I'm suggesting, but I just, when you're younger, I think people are still kind of working out how to a lot of people haven't even had like a long-term relationship.
	So it's like, you know, they don't really know how to maneuver correctly.
	I think it's like so true.
	Like I feel like all like girls agree with this because this is always said like when you get out of a relationship like he doesn't know what he wants.
	Like that's like so like true.
	Like I feel like they just don't know what they want.
	Like I don't know.
	Word?
	Word.
	Word?
	Well, so I guess my question is, so a lot of you said like 50-50 relationships, da-da-da.
	But all of you said like for the paying for the first date thing that essentially the guy should pay.
	Y'all said whoever asked.
	Our biggest thing is like there's a difference between like going on a first date versus like a relationship.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's like two like precedes a relationship.
	There's the initial dating stage.
	Like the day that you asked me to be your girlfriend, we're in a relationship.
	Like that's the date, like that day.
	Like never.
	But what precedes a relationship is the dating stage.
	So you're saying I don't want to do 50-50 during the, well, I mean, just the first day.
	I won't feel like the first date is just like, that's just like a huge deciding factor.
	The day after, I mean, I mean, I really don't mind paying for guys.
	Like that's not like a huge deal.
	I mean, the first one, like, it'd be nice, but I mean, if we split the bell, whatever.
	I mean, yeah, I would probably like agree.
	Like, I probably wouldn't be 100% motivated to keep something going with you.
	But, I mean, I mean, like, it's just like the first date is just like the huge deciding factor.
	I'm like, yeah, the guy should probably pay.
	And then, like, whatever proceeds after that, then it's kind of like a mix-up.
	Like, it's just a toss-up on whether who pays then.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't know.
	The whole thing with the 50-50 relationship thing, like maybe when you finally get to the relationship, but everything building up to it.
	Yeah.
	I want to say it's like 90-10 men.
	Well, I feel like if, like, let's say a guy asks you on a date, you're going to expect him to pay because he asked you.
	But if you guys had like a really good time and at the end, you're like, oh, yeah, we should hang out again.
	Then I don't think there's a problem with the girl paying next time.
	Like, I wouldn't expect the guy to pay if I was wanting to go on a second date.
	Then I'd have no problem paying.
	Would you offer?
	Yeah.
	Because it's not usually a given that even if you go on a second date, that I would offer.
	Fair enough.
	So I guess my question is: so, you know, men are typically expected to court women, approach women, ask them out on dates, maybe pick them up, pay for dates, make the first move, etc.
	What are women expected to do to build a relationship?
	So I'm talking about that initial stage.
	What are women expected to do?
	Wait, so are we saying that, like, are we saying that, like, we know this man wants a relationship, right?
	And he wants to see, or he wants to see if you're worthy of a relationship or what?
	Like, he takes you out on a date.
	No, he's like, so, like, when you're like, let's say, like, the first date, like, usually on a first date, like, a guy picks you up, like, he takes you there, and he's like, expected to pay, but, like, what are like you expected to do, kind of, like, in these, like, dating experiences?
	Just be yourself.
	Be yourself, like, like, but okay, so here's the process.
	Here's the process for a guy.
	Are you expected to impress him?
	Do you want to do a party trick?
	I don't know.
	I feel like that goes back to like, this is like just like the way that like traditional dating has like faded out.
	It's like, now we have to make it like unnormal for like a guy to like do the things that they like did before.
	Which like what were the things women did before?
	Exactly.
	I don't know.
	I mean.
	See, but you said you were, you said you were desirous of traditional courtship, correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And do you know what that looks like from a guy's end?
	What do you mean?
	Okay, so asking you out, taking initiative, planning the date.
	Wednesday, 7 p.m., I'm taking you here.
	Maybe picking you up, leading on the date, so however that looks, paying for the date, et cetera, et cetera.
	And then initiating from there, maybe going for the first kiss.
	Maybe this occurs on the second or third date, escalating things forward sexually.
	So if those are the male, the men's traditional roles, what were the women's traditional roles?
	I don't even know.
	That's actually a hard question.
	I don't even know.
	Like, it's like, I feel like in the beginning stages of dating, like, there's not a lot like a girl can do just besides like, I mean, really, just like show up.
	I mean, I mean, until like things progress and you can like feel like you can like kind of like give more into the relationship, like, you know, like buy him things and stuff, but you're not comfortable doing that at first.
	And like, I mean, it all like depends on like, also, like, I'm a huge believer in like love languages.
	And it's just like you can't really express like your love languages until you're in a more like progressed relationship.
	So I guess my question is, what do you bring to the table?
	Or are you the table?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I never like thought.
	Like, yeah, because I mean, like, when I think of like traditional dating, I'm obviously just thinking of like what I expect from a guy.
	I'm not thinking of what I expect from myself in that.
	Yeah, so if you were dating a traditional guy, in what ways would you be traditional?
	I mean, would you listen to what he says?
	Would you let him lead?
	Fuck other dudes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, like listen to him, let him lead.
	Like, yeah, that's like one way is just like listening and like respecting like the conversations he has or like just like yeah, I mean like listening.
	I mean there's just not a lot like you can do to like leave like a huge first impression besides like what she said like being yourself.
	Sure.
	Like it's just like, I mean until the relationship progresses, there's just not a lot of things like a girl can do to show her appreciation towards the guy that she's mental further.
	And you see the initial statement getting them to be a little bit different.
	Well even if you're not like well you're not well you're not dating yet.
	Right.
	So you expect the girl to be loyal to you before on the first date?
	Okay, so as a guy that is probably the most attractive thing a girl could do.
	But it's not dated.
	I'm not seeing other guys right now.
	I'm just talking to you.
	That is probably the most attractive thing a girl could do or say I can guarantee you that on a first date.
	I can guarantee you that on a third, but I mean on the first day I'm still feeling it out and then I mean so you're not a traditional woman.
	Well what I mean when you're most of the time when people are dating like when you're in like dating like you're usually like you're feeling out like different situations and then like you usually like pick one and then like connect that and then I'm like done like everyone else is cut off and then it's only you.
	Yeah, you're not a traditional woman.
	If you are entertaining if you're entertaining multiple options then you're not adhering to your traditional gender rules, which is fidelity.
	Ryan, can I say like what you said?
	You can disagree.
	It's free to disagree.
	I know.
	So I have an example.
	Like I told a guy like that I wasn't dating.
	I'm not seeing other guys.
	Eric.
	And are you seeing other girls?
	And he's like, yeah, I'm seeing other girls.
	I don't expect you to see other guys.
	And he wanted, and then I, and I got all kind of like riled up about it.
	And he was like, I don't know why you're mad.
	We're not dating yet.
	So I don't know what kind of guys you're talking about, but I think, well, he wanted to date me.
	And then he got all like startled because I went off about him about how I expected all of this.
	You know?
	And then he was just like, I wanted to date you and now I don't because you're all like crazy about how you expect me to be loyal when we're not dating.
	And you're saying how guys like it when women are loyal before they're dating.
	I don't think that's true.
	I think both of them.
	I think the guy.
	Wait, you think guys would be upset if you were like, by the way, I'm not sleeping with anybody else.
	I'm only sleeping with you or I'm only talking with you.
	But this is like before you're sleeping with them.
	No, that's the whole point.
	Like if it's like a first, like I'm just like talking about like the first day.
	Like by the second or third date, like if I'm going to continue to see you most of, I don't know why I like want to move away from the bike so bad.
	Like if I'm like continuing to see you most of the time, like, yeah, I'm going to cut up everyone else because if I go on a second or a third date with you, like my interest has peaked in just you.
	Like I'm not going on dates with multiple guys.
	But like just like for the, we're talking about like before the first date, like you're expecting us to like not talk to any other dudes.
	No, so okay, I realize we're in 2022 and it's not that I have an expectation.
	I'm not like it would just be nice.
	She went on a date last week like it's a deal breaker.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Like.
	Is it something that would I me I would find incredibly attractive?
	Yes, but I think men like the chase, but I also feel I don't like the chase.
	I want a girl who's just up front, who's like Brian, I like you.
	Let's cut through the bullshit.
	If he's a new guy, even if a guy doesn't like the chase, he's he.
	If I said like, within like the first three dates, I'm not seeing anyone, I'm just seeing you, and he'd be like what the fuck?
	This bitch is attached to me.
	She's kind of crazy.
	Like she's like obsessed or some shit.
	So I'm like now I gotta drop all my hoes for her.
	Men, this is how they value fidelity.
	Men value purity.
	No, but they're gonna think you're psycho, because no women do that.
	I mean, if you're no, if a girl just says hey, just letting you, if you're like not weird, there would have to be other indicators of you being like needy or clingy for the guy to actually think that.
	I feel like it's just different at like, I don't know your age, like we're gonna be like, say it like that.
	But bro no, there's no guy who's like gee, I really wish the girl that I'm I'm talking to right now is like fucking a couple other dudes.
	I'd really like that.
	There's no guys that are thinking that.
	You know what about the guy do you think?
	Do you like, do you expect when the?
	Do you expect yourself to be like, loyal within the first few dates?
	It's not, it's not an expectation, it's just no, no question.
	Do you?
	Are you loyal within the first few dates?
	I'm so busy i'm, i'm not like, i'm not like how a lot of girls are out here dating like five guys in the world.
	Okay, how about?
	How about your buddies, your friends, that like, who aren't as busy and they probably get hella busy.
	I have okay, my buddy Chase, who I don't know if he's in the chat.
	He's a conservative Christian guy who's waiting till marriage to have sex, so he's not moving like that.
	But I mean I is that your one friend?
	You know what actually?
	You know I i'm a very lonely i'm, i'm a red flu, so I have no friends.
	But um okay, I feel like the question like to like, kind of like, settle.
	Our point is like, let's say, you're single right now, don't like, even like, put your just picture yourself as a man like, don't even picture yourself, like all how you're busy and stuff, like you are single, so you're just kind of like filling out a few girls and like one of the girls asks you out on a date.
	Are you gonna cut off all those other girls you're talking to because you got asked out on a date?
	She asked, what do you mean?
	She asked me on them.
	Well, this is a very rare scenario.
	No, but that's what i'm saying.
	But you're already assuming that the status quo is that either the girl or the guy is already seeing multiple people.
	I'm not like one.
	I i'm a.
	Okay, so I can speak about me personally.
	I'm so fucking busy I don't have really, I don't really have time to date.
	Like i'm running this business, like it's keeping me super fucking busy, so i'm really only dating.
	Like if i'm gonna go on a date with the girl, i'm probably not seeing anybody else.
	Okay well, like i'm not.
	And also i'm not interested in just running things are harder for you like.
	So i'm not interested in just running through a bunch of chicks and then also like to me, i'm, because I don't get it, that's weird.
	If you're just gonna sleep with someone one time, I think that's weird.
	I want to hookups yeah yeah if, if I have sex with someone.
	I want to pursue that for potential long term.
	Yeah, maybe that's not there, but i'm gonna continue seeing them for sure.
	Yeah, a girl has for me at least a girl.
	For me to sleep with a girl and then not want to see her again, she has to majorly fuck up in some way.
	Yeah, majorly fuck up, yeah.
	So I mean, there's a, there's a bit I wanted to uh something about the hooking up and fidelity thing.
	I forgot.
	But when are we gonna wrap up?
	What's up?
	When are we gonna wrap up?
	Pretty soon, pretty soon.
	Um yeah, I just have to do some super chats, but did anyone want to come in on this?
	No, move on the next, okay.
	So man, there's a bit that I wanted to uh hit, but I totally forgot.
	Um Okay, so we are going to do some super chats and then get your super chats in if you want, and then we're going to wrap up.
	Okay.
	I think this is where we left off.
	Devon Jackson thing through the $10 Soup Chat.
	I'm in New Jersey.
	LOL.
	I will only come out for a Chargers game, but it's a hard maybe.
	Oh, because they were talking about like you putting them on.
	Killu Kaluminati Shakur.
	Okay, Tupac, what's up?
	$10 Soup Chat.
	I just want the fact to remain that body count does matter and the ladies proved it by an action to prove it doesn't when they had the chance to spill theirs.
	I can't really.
	Holy shit.
	That hurts my brain a little bit.
	I can't.
	But I mean, you know, Kaluminati Shakur.
	Most of the women here did say that they thought body count matters.
	I've already said my body count on the other one.
	What is it?
	Three?
	It's like kind of four.
	Four?
	No, you said three.
	I said four.
	You said three.
	I'm pretty sure.
	I said four.
	Go look back.
	You sure?
	Yeah.
	Okay, guys in chat, do a little investigation.
	Has it increased since last time?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Jesse, Paul, can any of the girls touch both their elbows together?
	I think that's directed towards Lonnie.
	100%, but not even $10.
	Oh, so you need a $10 soup chat for that?
	Not even $10.
	The one shouldn't even have been read out loud.
	Okay.
	Lonnie is now the co-host of the show, by the way.
	Yusuf Hijazi.
	Wait, is this one of those meme names?
	Okay.
	$10 soup chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Elmeo, she just said dating is harder for unattractive men, and no one went over 30% when asked what amount of men were attractive.
	I'm confused why it's even a question with who's got it harder.
	Okay, that kind of goes back to the that.
	Do you guys have a response to this?
	Okay.
	We got Devon Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat.
	man cheats for the same reason you eat a different meal every day yeah i mean for men it's just like why is that kind of funny yeah for us it's just like food it's just like we can you can still love your girl and hook up You're going to cheat on your wife?
	No, not me.
	Not me.
	Why are you saying me?
	Just Adam Levine.
	Not me.
	You're not Adam Levine.
	I'm not Adam Levine.
	He kind of looks like him.
	Oh, Jesus.
	Don't say that.
	Like, just a little bit of a head.
	Okay, and I think that is it for the super chats.
	Okay, so there was something I really wanted to respond to.
	About the hookup fidelity thing.
	What were we talking about before that?
	Was it the 50-50 thing or was it...
	Yeah.
	It's my bedtime.
	Relax, relax.
	Almost done.
	Almost done.
	Okay.
	Just study for a psych test.
	Yeah, she's a study.
	It's.
	Nerdlani.
	Whatever.
	I forgot it.
	Anyways, so I did open it up for final thoughts, but it sounded like you guys did not have anything else.
	So what we're going to do now is I'm going to say goodbye to the viewers.
	So guys, we're going to wrap up.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	We will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	And then we are also going to be doing a show Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	Normally we're not doing the dating talks on Sunday.
	I want to give a big thanks to the lovely panel.
	Thank you guys.
	You guys were great.
	Thank you guys for watching.
	And we will see you guys next time.
	See you guys.

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