In 1976, the recently paroled assassin went back to prison after being arrested in Charlottesville. He was acquitted on the charge of being naked in a stranger's living room, but he'd violated his parole. He's tried to stay out of the spotlight ever since. Decades later, his son wrote that he was a changed man. His comments after the 2017 Unite the Right rally say otherwise.Sources:Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend PressSimonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/21/the-shadow-of-an-assassinated-american-nazi-commander-hangs-over-charlottesville/https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1996/12/15/the-accounting/22c75ac3-d752-4339-bccb-dcce7e3a999f/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1997/07/18/man-found-guilty-in-15-year-old-murder/95c86fe6-2f03-4043-a7f3-5d49c89c2b13/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In 1976, James Mason was just 24 years old.
He was fresh off a sentence in an Ohio jail for spraying mace at a black 14-year-old girl in a Dairy Queen parking lot.
It would be a few more years before he started working on his most lasting legacy.
The newsletters that would become siege.
A beloved text for neo-Nazi terrorists.
But he was writing.
He was the editor of the newsletter for the newly formed National Socialist Movement.
And the August 1976 issue contained a write-up about a hated enemy.
From Charlottesville, Virginia, word reaches us that the sneak murderer of Rockwell, John Patzalos, is in trouble again.
This time with the law for disorderly conduct in the nude.
Patzalos, aka Pattler, and two other men were arrested and charged with trespassing in possession of marijuana while conducting an orgy with one woman who is still being sought.
Rockwell is dead and his murderer carouses.
Reason enough to destroy any system that would permit it.
Keep turning up this way, buddy boy, so that we may keep track of you.
Whether or not James Mason kept track of John Patler in the years that followed, I couldn't tell you.
But here's the rest of his story.
And this is Weird Little Guys.
When we left off last time, it was 1976, and I was apologizing for writing without a plan.
I could probably be more organized, but I think that would mean cutting out the side quests.
And to be honest, I'd rather die than live a life without my rabbit holes.
So, as My apology to you.
You're getting this a little bit early.
This being the second half of the third part of a series that I thought was going to be a single episode.
Is there more?
I actually don't know.
I'll find out about 96 hours before you do.
At the very least, I know we aren't quite moving on next week.
I still need to tell you about the legal battle over George Lincoln Rockwell's corpse that ended in an all-day standoff with the army.
But back to the orgy.
In the summer of 1976, John Pattler was out of prison.
He'd been released on parole after serving barely five years of his 20-year sentence for the murder of American Nazi Party commander, George Lincoln Rockwell.
He was close to finishing a degree at Radford College, having taken a year of classes through the study release program while he was still in prison.
But in June of 1976, he wasn't enrolled in summer classes.
He says he was in Charlottesville that summer, looking for a job.
Now, for my non-Virginians, Radford is about 150 miles away from Charlottesville.
It's hard to say what brought him here or what sort of job he was looking for.
His brother was living about an hour north of Charlottesville, and it's hard to say with certainty what someone's address was 50 years ago, but it seems like both of his ex-wives, each of them raising two of his sons, were living in the Central Virginia area at the time as well.
Although in opposite directions, and none of them were actually in the Charlottesville area directly, and it doesn't appear he was in contact with them.
So I guess what I'm saying is I don't know why he was looking for a job here.
But that's what he told the cops.
On a Wednesday evening in June of 1976, a man got home from work.
He opened his front door, and he walked inside.
And he found four naked strangers engaging in some unspecified group sex act in his living room.
He ordered the naked people to leave, obviously, and to their credit, they did.
As they were leaving, he wrote down the license plate number of the car they piled into, and he called the police.
No reporting that I could find ever identified the woman, but all three men were quickly arrested.
A Charlottesville police officer spotted the car half an hour later and arrested John Pattler and the other two men.
I have nothing but questions about this.
How did these men meet?
What was the conversation leading up to this?
How do you end up having an orgy in someone else's house?
The other two men's names are in the newspaper, but I don't want to get too deep into who they were.
One of them would later get arrested after an armed standoff with police when he barricaded himself inside of his psychiatrist's home, which he'd broken into after being released from a psychiatric hospital.
And the other man had a fair number of drug charges that predate 1976.
But in the two decades after this, he committed such a staggering number of horrific sexual crimes that I don't really want to talk about it.
But back to this evening in June of 1976.
Presumably they were all clothed by the time the officer pulled them over.
All three of them were wanted in connection with the reported trespassing, and the officer reported finding a pipe with marijuana residue as well as a small quantity of marijuana on Pattler's person.
So he was charged with possession of marijuana as well.
So now he has three problems.
He's been charged with two crimes.
He's very embarrassed.
And he's recently been paroled after serving just five years of a 20-year sentence for murder.
Well, I guess he has four problems.
It's probably going to be pretty hard to find a job in Charlottesville now.
Patler told reporters with a local newspaper shortly after this arrest that the entire incident had been blown out of proportion.
He said he didn't know anything about any kind of orgy, and he claimed that he and the other men had been invited guests of the home's other occupant.
The man who came home to find the orgy in his living room did have a roommate, and that man was the brother of one of these naked people.
So it's not impossible that they were his guests, but he wasn't home, and police say the group entered the house through a window.
I mean, that's not something I would do at my brother's house, but people are different.
The story received a lot more press than the average trespassing charge.
And Pattler was probably right when he told the local newspaper that all this attention was, quote, due to the identities of the people involved.
It was picked up as a wire story and ended up published in newspapers all over the country.
Which is probably how word ended up getting back to his old associates.
All three men were acquitted on the trespassing charge.
The judge found that there was insufficient proof they'd been in the home because they only had the home occupant's word on the matter.
Typically a trespassing charge involves a police officer seeing you do it.
But Pattler was unable to attend his own trial for trespassing because he was already back in jail somewhere else.
Getting arrested is a parole violation.
The prosecutor in Charlottesville ultimately dropped the marijuana possession charge entirely, likely because there was no point prosecuting the case if the defendant was already incarcerated somewhere else for something more serious.
Getting arrested at all, even if you're ultimately acquitted or the charges are dropped, is what's called a technical violation, which can lead to problems for someone on probation or parole.
If he had been in perfect compliance with his conditions otherwise, the technical violation may have been resolvable.
It might not have caused problems for him.
But according to newspaper reports, his probation conditions required him to remain in the Radford area.
So it looked like he was trying to move to and get a job in Charlottesville, which was a violation, and that sent him back to prison in the fall of 1976.
In January of 1978, from jail, he filed a petition with the court to legally change his name back to Pat Salos.
Like those articles from the early 70s, the first time he was in jail, he says he's changed his ways, and he understands now that his hateful ways were really just misdirected hatred of himself.
In early 1978, those articles say that he wouldn't be released for another six years.
And I can't find any newspaper stories that definitively put him in or out of prison in the next few years.
But a footnote in Frederick Simonelli's biography of Rockwell says that he was paroled again for good in October of 1978.
And then he sort of disappears.
I read in a few sources that he moved back to New York City immediately after being released.
but it does look like he stayed in the Richmond, Virginia area for a few years.
In 1988, he legally changed his name back to John Patsalos in the Richmond Circuit Court.
I found a marriage license for him in Manhattan in 1990, but the woman moved across the country just a few years later, and she ultimately filed for divorce from the West Coast.
So his third marriage didn't last long and doesn't seem to have produced any children.
In 2017, a reporter from the Washington Post went looking for him.
He refused to be interviewed, but at the time he was living on the Lower East Side.
At the age of 79, Pattler was still earning a living as a freelance cartoonist.
But the article doesn't say who's buying his art.
I mean, freelance cartooning is probably a pretty tough way to pay the rent in Manhattan, so I imagine he's selling those drawings to anyone who would buy them.
But I was only able to pin down the details for one.
High Times Magazine.
I found a couple of issues from that era and flipped through them, but I never found his name in the magazine itself.
He's not credited as the artist anywhere that I can find.
So it's not unlikely that his art appears elsewhere, also without attribution.
But I know he was working for High Times, that magazine about marijuana, because in 2017, it was sold to a private equity firm.
As a part of that sale, documents were filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
They're all very boring, and they're not the kinds of documents I usually look at.
But in one endless PDF of assets and liabilities and finance gibberish, there's a list of the magazine's current freelance contracts.
John Patzalos is listed as a monthly contributor to the magazine, earning $500 a month as an illustrator.
In his Miss Spent Nazi Youth, he illustrated the quarterly magazine of the American Nazi Party.
There's one issue that has a multi-page comic called White Man, a superhero with a swastika on his chest who does battle with what I can only assume is a non-copyright infringing version of Superman, because he's referred to only as the Jew from Outer Space.
In the 1960s, in a converted hen house with a giant swastika on the roof, he labored over a printing press, watching as thousands of copies of his racist caricatures landed in a pile.
And now, in his old age, he's drawing little cartoons of people smoking weed.
That's the last place John Patler appears in any record I can find.
Every August, his name appears in a few newspapers running stories about the anniversary of Rockwell's death.
But it's always the same story.
Just a reminder of that moment in history.
Just a remember when about that day in 1967.
There's no obituary that I can find, and data broker sites show that he still lives in that apartment on the Lower East Side.
But that doesn't mean much.
If he is still alive, he'll turn 88 in January.
If he isn't, then his passing didn't make the news and wasn't mourned by anyone, at least not publicly.
Alive or dead, the last years of his life were spent in obscurity.
He's just a strange, sad footnote in the story of the man he says he didn't kill.
A listener posted a question a few weeks ago on the show's subreddit about Pattler's younger brother.
Ordinarily, I would probably leave him out of a story like this.
There's no indication I could find that they were particularly close, and nothing I found hinted that he was involved in similar political activities.
At least not the Nazi stuff.
There is a new story about him getting arrested for crossburning in 1985.
But it looks like the case was dropped because the victim was also white.
Puzzling.
But in any case, I think for this story, it is actually relevant to talk a little bit about George Patzalos.
Back in the first episode, I talked a little about their childhoods.
They were born a year and a half apart.
So George wasn't quite four years old when their father murdered their mother.
In 1958, the year John Patler enlisted in the Marines to avoid going to jail for a probation violation, George was arrested for setting a school on fire in the Bronx.
In 1967, when John Patler wrote his own autobiography in his final issue of Stormtrooper magazine, he dismissed the idea that his troubled home life had played any role in the man he became, considering his brother was nothing like him.
He wrote, quote, the environmentalists and the Jew oriented psychiatrists will no doubt attribute my political activity and extremist beliefs to my unfortunate childhood experiences.
But my brother, who experienced the exact environment I did, and who underwent the same hardships, lives an opposite life than mine.
He is today a happily married man, a peaceful non-political citizen, and the owner of a small business he built up himself.
And maybe in 1967.
John Patler believed that that was true.
It was around this time that his brother George moved down to Virginia from New York.
I couldn't tell you what prompted the move or exactly when it was.
Articles about George that were written much later say that he moved to Virginia in the early 70s.
But birth records for his children show one born in New York in 1963, followed by one born in Virginia in 1967.
So he was living in Virginia at least as early as 1967.
And the happy marriage Patler wrote about seems to have been anything but.
He married his first wife in 1963, about eight months before their first daughter was born.
When his wife filed for divorce, she cited both cruelty and willful abandonment.
By the time the divorce was finalized in 1974, George, who was in his mid-30s and a father of four, was already living with a girl he met a year earlier.
When he was married and she was in high school.
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A kind of subculture, a hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women.
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Music by Ben Thede Her name was Ava Dehart.
By 1982, she wasn't a teenager anymore.
They'd been together for almost a decade.
She worked at the motorcycle shop he ran in Fredericksburg, Virginia, and they lived together in a trailer in a small town about halfway between Fredericksburg and Charlottesville.
In the summer of 1982, Ava confided in her sister that she was afraid of George, that he'd been hurting her, and she was afraid that if she tried to leave, he would find her and kill her.
Or worse, that he'd kill her family.
She told her sister that he'd killed before.
But she wouldn't say anymore.
And then she disappeared.
George Patzalos had already moved on to another woman before Ava disappeared in 1982.
And in 1985, he married Barbara Campfield, the woman he'd started seeing a year before Ava De Hart vanished.
That marriage was over before it even really began.
They married in March, had a baby in May, and they were separated by July, though they didn't officially divorce until 1987.
On the divorce decree, the legal grounds for the divorce is listed simply as cruelty.
You can't really know what goes on behind closed doors, but shortly before Barbara filed for the divorce, her brother shot George in the neck during an argument that took place at her mother's house.
For 14 years, Ava Dehart's sister Debbie investigated the disappearance on her own.
She hired a private investigator, but she kept pursuing the best lead on her own.
Barbara Campfield had to know something.
She was George Patzalos' girlfriend when Ava disappeared.
And it's a small town.
People talk.
So she took advantage of that.
And she talked too.
Debbie would stop by the grocery store where Barbara was working just to chat, every now and then.
She'd ask Barbara about her sister.
She asked her about George.
She asked what happened in 1982.
And slowly, Barbara opened up to her.
Barbara hired a lawyer shortly after she led on to Debbie that she'd helped George clean up a lot of blood one night in July of 1982.
And her lawyer negotiated a deal for immunity.
And then she took the police to the well.
Barbara said for all those years, she'd been too afraid to talk.
She was afraid that George would do the same thing to her.
But in 1996, she finally confessed to helping George Potzalos throw a body down a well.
She claimed that she never knew whose body it was.
A forensic examination confirmed that the skeletal remains at the bottom of an abandoned well were those of Ava Dehart.
A forensic anthropologist testified that of the 35 fractures detected on examination, 27 of them happened while she was still alive.
George Patsalos beat her to death.
George Patsalos was convicted of the first-degree murder of Eva De Hart in 1997.
He was sentenced to life in prison, where he died in 2006.
6.
So in 1943, Christos Patzalos shot his wife Athena in the throat, leaving John and George without a mother.
John Patler was right.
almost, when he wrote in 1976 that it isn't fair to attribute his political leanings entirely to his violent childhood.
It is possible to grow up in a violent home and not become a Nazi.
It is possible to be the son of a domestic abuser and not grow up to beat women to death.
But it is still true to say that that's what happened here.
That the sons of a murdered mother grew into men who murdered two.
One killed a man he loved like a father.
And the other killed a woman who'd once carried his child.
I don't know what that means.
if it means anything.
All I know is that's what happened.
In 2013, John Patler's youngest son, Nicholas Patler, contributed the afterword to William Schmaltz's biography of George Lincoln Rockwell.
Nicholas was not quite a year old when his father shot Rockwell, and he wrote that he had no contact with his father from the time he was six until he was 34.
He's the only one of Patler's four children who seems to have made any public statement about their father.
So he's the only one I'll talk about.
He has a master's degree in history.
His first book was a history of the massive protest movement that emerged in opposition to the forced segregation of the federal workforce during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson.
For several years, he was an adjunct professor teaching African American history.
His second book actually just came out a few weeks ago, a biography of Pinckney Benton Stewart Pinchback.
Pinchback was the son of an enslaved woman and was briefly the governor of Louisiana in 1872.
Nicholas Pattler has clearly worked hard to put something into the world that his father was trying to take away from it.
Look at his life, his work, interviews he's given over the years.
He is the opposite of the man his father was in the 1960s.
In that afterward, he writes compassionately about the father he got to know as an adult.
He describes his father's traumatic childhood, and he understands how a damaged young man came to be drawn in by the fatherly attention he got from Rockwell.
He's trying to understand.
And he's careful to emphasize that his goal is not to excuse.
When he wrote this in 2013, he'd spent a little over a decade getting to know his father.
And at the time, he had also recently enrolled in a master's program at Bethany Theological Seminary.
And I think that does help me understand the tenor of the essay in a way.
He's writing earnestly about finding peace and being open to the possibility of transformation.
He wrote that his father really was a changed man.
His father had told him once that he regretted his time in the Nazi movement and even expressed that he now realized he'd been marching with the wrong side during the civil rights movement.
Nicholas Pattler ends that afterward on a hopeful note, writing, quote, I want to encourage the reader not to give up on those trapped in cycles and situations of violence and distortion, whether in our own backyard or across the globe.
The one thing that I have seen personally and witnessed over and over in many contexts that can transform hatred and the hater is love.
Courageous, visionary, and uncompromising love.
In 2013, when he wrote that, his father was proof of this message that he'd been transformed.
Four years later, in 2017, after the Unite the Right rally in Charlesville, Virginia, every news outlet in the country was running front-page stories with pictures of Nazis.
Hundreds and hundreds of neo-Nazis.
Men flying swastika flags, men with swastika tattoos, men in Nazi uniforms, men with torches, men with weapons.
Videos Of men chanting, you will not replace us.
Blood and soil.
Videos of men shouting, Rockwell's most famous slogan.
White power.
A changed man.
A man who regretted inciting violent racist mobs all those years ago.
What would he say when he saw it happening again?
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If I also woman I wouldn't date me either.
From the dark corners of the web, an emerging mindset.
If I can't have you, girls, I will destroy you.
A kind of subculture, a hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women.
A seed of loneliness explodes.
I just hate myself.
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But I will punish you all for it.
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Incels will be added to the terrorism guide.
Police say a driver intentionally drove into a crowd, killing 10 people.
Tomorrow is the day of retribution.
I will have my revenge.
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Two days after that rally, after a young neo-Nazi murdered a peaceful demonstrator in the streets, John Pattler posted on Facebook that there's nothing wrong with white pride.
He wrote, it was a peaceful parade.
A couple of hundred white men neatly attired expressing their right to free speech and objection to the removal of the statue of General Lee.
A reporter from the Washington Post made several attempts to contact him, even visiting his apartment in Manhattan.
But he refused to be interviewed.
His son, the same son who wrote so proudly, so lovingly in 2013 about his father's transformation, told the Washington Post in 2017 that his father had started to change again around 2015.
Quote I don't know what the climate is doing to him.
Now it seems like little by little, he's becoming poisoned again.
You can't know what's in a man's heart.
You can judge his actions.
You can interpret his words.
But there isn't anyone who can tell you for sure whether John Pattler's heart changed twice or not at all.
Was he a changed man from 1970 until 2015?
And then he changed back.
Did the love and understanding of a once estranged son help him come to terms with the hurt in his own soul and the ways that pushed him to inflict pain on the world.
Only then to hear the siren song of a new Fuhrer during the 2016 election.
Was that hate just lying dormant?
Waiting for the right moment to march again.
There were a few times in the last few weeks as I've been writing this story that something reminded me of what I think is one of the greatest episodes of television ever produced.
The fourth episode of the fourth season of The Twilight Zone aired in January of 1963.
It starred a young Dennis Hopper as Peter Fulmer, the leader of a small group of neonazis.
I don't know that Rod Serling ever stated outright that he was thinking of George Lincoln Rockwell when he wrote the character of Peter Fulmer.
A small, angry man desperate to command the respect of his followers, but struggling to pay the rent on his Nazi headquarters.
But it is so precisely Rockwell that I can't believe there's any other explanation.
As Peter Fulmer is struggling to put on his little Nazi rallies and grow the ranks of his Nazi party.
A mysterious figure appears to him and offers him money and advice.
And when the man finally steps out of the shadows, it's Adolf Hitler himself.
The episode aired four years before Rockwell died in real life.
But at the end of the episode, his on-screen stand-in is bleeding out in an alley.
As Rod Serling narrates the closing monologue.
You see Hitler's ghost walk off into the night in search of a new apprentice.
And we're left with a warning.
He's alive.
He's alive because we keep him alive.
He's alive so long as these evils exist.
Remember that when he comes to your town.
Remember it when you hear his voice speaking on through others.
Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attack, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being.
He's alive because through these things, we keep him alive.
George Lincoln Rockwell is dead.
Almost all of the men who marched behind him 60 years ago are dead.
But only the men died.
The thing that drove them, the thing that still drives men like them today.
It's alive.
and too many people are keeping it alive.
Weird Little Guys is a production of Pool Zone Media and iHeartRadio.
It's researched, written, and recorded by me, Molly Conger.
Our executive producers are Sophie Licherman and Robert Evans.
The show is edited by the wildly talented Rory Gagan.
The theme music was composed by Brad Dickard.
You can email me at Weirdly Guys Podcast at gmail.com.
I will definitely read it, but I probably won't answer it as nothing personal.
You can exchange conspiracy theories about the show with other listeners on the Weird Little Guys subreddit.
Just don't post anything that's going to make you one of my weird little guys.
you you you you Hey, it's Karen and Georgia, and we just celebrated our 500th episode of My Favorite Murder.
That's 500 podcasts filled with true crime, comedy, and some light girl math.
We're about to podcast for you.
Watch this.
We have to think of something to say after welcome every week.
And we're doing it every week for 10 years.
Almost 10 years.
10 years.
10.
That's what 500 episodes sounds like.
New episodes every Thursday.
Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Goodbye.
On this podcast Incels, we unpack an emerging mindset.
I am a loser.
If also women all in Damie either.
A hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women at a deadly tipping point.
Tomorrow is the day of retribution.
The day in which I will have my revenge.
This is Incels.
Listen to season one of Incels on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know Podcast.
If you've been thinking, man, alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes.
Then have we got good news for you.
Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time.
There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards.
So check out the Stuff You Should Know True Crime playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years.
until a local housewife a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story america y'all better work the hell up bad things happens to good people in small towns Listen to Graves County on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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