Brown Shooter Identified - Suspect or Patsy? Judge CONVICTED for Aiding Illegals! Bongino Resigns!
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Ladies and gentlemen of the interwebs, you might be asking yourself why you are looking at the logo for the Philadelphia Flyers.
Well, there's been a funny moment caught on a hot mic.
And if you are ever going to get a two-game suspension as an announcer, this is what you want the two-game suspension for.
Behold!
Sometimes the Flyers get a sense of urgency when they're playing from behind.
Now they're going to take the TV time out.
We'll take it as well.
Seven gone in the third.
It's 3-2 Buffalo on the Philadelphia Flyers Broadcast Network.
Now you have dead air, not realizing that he's live still.
While you're down there, would you mind blowing me?
I think we're still on the air, Tim.
Oh, no, we're not, are we?
So if you haven't heard the news, is I'm going to keep this in the background.
Stop.
Just, oh, the pause is not.
I'm pressing the pause on the screen recording of this and not on the actual link.
If you haven't heard the breaking news of the day in a moment that has traumatized a generation of children, hockey lovers, how dare the man make such a crude and crass joke?
This actually happened.
Philadelphia Flyers radio announcers suspended for lewd comment on the air.
December 19th, two-minute read.
You want to know why.
I don't know.
This is Yahoo News, but it's syndicated, so I don't know where it comes from originally.
But whatever.
You want to know why Yahoo News and Legacy Media is suffering.
This is why, people.
Make sure the mic is off before making offhand comments.
Tim Saunders, the radio play-by-play announcer for the Philadelphia Flyers, learned that the hard way after being caught making a crude sexual comment to a co-worker during a commercial break in Thursday's game between the Flyers and the Buffalo Savers.
The on-air gaff occurred during a television timeout late in the third period of the game.
It earned Saunders a two-game suspension and a formal apology was issued by the hockey team.
This is this.
During a commercial break, a few seconds are done.
He's humming to kill the time.
About 20 seconds into the break, Saunders makes a crude comment, not realizing his mic was still live and hot.
While you're down there, would you mind blowing me?
He says, referring to fellatio, people.
Well, that's quite a supposition that you've made right there.
Maybe he had a boo-boo on his leg because he spilled some hot soup on it and he needed someone to blow on his boo-boo to make the pain go away.
Not that I'm not going to clutch pearls and proclaim to be holier than thou.
And I will admit that I have a kind of a crude, crass sense of humor within certain limits.
Give me a fucking break.
Give me, if it's sexual harassment, it's the article seems to say he's making the comment at a staffer or an employee when he might have just been making the joke at the person making the announcement, a joke which is not just as old as time, but which is as quintessential as the scene from Goodwill Hunting when Robin Williams makes the joke, you know,
the joke on the plane that pilots flying a plane and he puts the mic down.
He says, we're going to be flying at 30,000 feet and enjoy your flight, lay back and enjoy it.
And then he puts the mic down and doesn't realize it's still on.
He says, boy, I could go for a coffee and a BJ.
And then one of the stewardesses running up there to let him know that the mic is still hot.
And then someone on the plane says, hey, don't forget the coffee.
It's an old joke.
It's pretty damn funny.
And I was listening to that.
I was expecting the N-word.
I was expecting like some racial, racist tirade.
I was expecting like a sort of a Bill O'Reilly meltdown off the air.
Merry Christmas, Crazy Die73 people.
We're going to have one heck of a show today because the news is breaking.
And they found the shooter.
I'm not going to pat myself on the back.
It's just you learn from the mistakes of others.
And like I've always said, you also learn from your own mistakes faster.
They've allegedly found the shooter in the Brown University shooting, as well as the MIT professor, the nuclear physicist who was murdered a few days after the Brown shooting.
Whether or not people are going to believe it, we're at a point in time where no matter what authorities say, nobody's going to believe them because they're incompetent.
They're incompetent and they're dishonest.
And not to say that everything is a massive global conspiracy, but a lot of the conspiracies are the cover-ups of their own incompetence.
And they have now allegedly, after Brett Smiley, Smiley Pie, the guy there, the mayor, the mayor of Providence, Rhode Island.
Do you remember in the wake of the shooting?
Hold on, you know, we're just going to do the breaking news now.
Kyle Serifin's going to come on in a bit.
He's doing a hit with Alex Jones right now.
So he's going to come on.
We're going to talk about Bongino being out.
And I want to ask Kyle some rules, protocol.
He was in the FBI.
He knows whether or not Bongino is going to be bound by an NDA, how long those NDAs typically last, whether or not with his insider knowledge, insider information, Bongino's going to go back to pause.
I want to talk about it.
I know where his bias is going to, you know, on which end of the spectrum his bias is going to lend to his interpretation, but I think he's reasonably self-reflective to keep his biases in check.
What else do we have to talk about today?
I've got so much stuff.
Oh, Kyle's in the backdrop already.
Well, whenever he's ready to come in.
And we're going to talk about the Brown shooting.
It's just wild.
And then some other stuff.
Hold on.
Let me see here.
Up in Canada.
You know, that's it.
Kyle, sir.
What's going on in Canada?
Do we still deal with the Snow Mexicans in a favorable way?
Is that excuse me, sir?
I prefer Canada's hat as opposed to the Snow Mexican.
Canada's hat.
America's hat.
America's hat.
I'm an idiot.
Let me make sure that you're the last time I think people are saying you're my favorite.
Yeah, let's get a read on this.
I can always move the mic away too.
So one, two, one, two, give me.
And I'm going to say this here.
Kyle, I was watching you on Alex Jones.
I was watching you the other day, and I want to actually ask you about, we're going to get, everybody knows Kyle Seraphin.
He's, I won't say a regular, but he's a, he's, he's quite audio levels are good.
How about an occasional?
Okay.
I say someone I like to talk to.
You're insightful.
Hold on one second.
Viva, make sure people never watch slapshot starring the Hansen brothers, Christian conservative getting ready to seek another asylum in the U.S.
I haven't seen, I haven't seen such a hockey movie.
Yeah, clearly.
There was Goon, which was the one with the guy with Stiffler, which was decent.
And then there was another French-Canadian one, a classic, and I forget what it was called.
Les Bois, I think.
Kyle, okay, you were on Alex Jones earlier this week.
You were talking about the pipe bomber Patsy story because I've already put out my tweet, like bookmarket, they got the wrong guy.
Yeah.
There was some breaking news in that case that there was, it was unearthed footage of this kid being pulled over in a news report from 2024, which is the kid's name is Brian Cole Jr. was pulled over for a car accident back in 2024, and there's some sort of unearthed footage.
I'll find the footage while you're talking.
I can send it to you if you want.
Yes, send it to me.
Like, what is the context of the footage that this car accident, Fenderbender, would have been sufficient newsworthy material that they had like a certifiable report on it in 2024?
He just ran into somebody in the state police or the, you know, whatever it was, the either Virginia State Police or the county police dealt with him.
Might have been on Fairfax County Parkway, something like that.
So it's not newsworthy.
It's just the fact there was body cam footage.
And then people were like, oh, there's this kid.
And he was accused of running into a guy in the back.
He rear-ended a guy.
And now they're like, well, now he's the pipe bomber.
So that's the exciting, you know, sort of stuff.
Let me make sure.
I think I have it sitting here in a file for you.
So if you can, I'll find it while we're this.
This is I've already downloaded this.
I'll just rip it and hand it over to you.
It's Scripps News.
You're going to want to skip past the first 30 seconds of it.
There it is.
I got it.
So here you go.
High efficiency guessed.
Who found this footage a year later?
So Scripps News found it apparently.
And then for whatever it's worth, the Blaze has gone and FOIA the entirety of it.
What you see here is enough to get a little sense of who this guy, David Cole, is he's not a non-verbal autistic person, but he's clearly got some ticks and he definitely has some weird things going on.
I will call people's attention to a few things.
Number one, look at the way that he's reading documents and his phone.
And you'll notice that his face is very, close to the screen because he's extremely nearsighted.
Now, that's kind of in contrast to the person we've seen who's the pipe bomber wearing the hoodie on the videos, who's able to read a phone, probably through sunglasses, if we think that's correct, on his or her lap, which is a much bigger problem.
I mean, I generally also bring my phone pretty close to my face, not as close as this guy necessarily.
And he's 15 years younger than I am.
So this is kind of the stuff that's kind of interesting.
And then there's 40 plus more minutes that are available in the background, including some video footage of him walking and standing.
And from what I understand from the video analysis, just preliminary that's being done, his shoe size is not the right size.
The shoes he's wearing are not correct.
In what sense?
Because his are too big.
His are too big to be the size of the pipe bomber's shoes.
But so that's part one.
Obviously, his proportions are different.
You'll notice he does this thing when he's writing in a second.
He started at the 30-second mark or maybe 28-second mark.
It's basically just script news setting it up.
So you're not going to miss anything.
Yeah, but I think, you know, the funny thing is, I think in Rumble Studio, I'm not sure that we're going to hear audio when I play this.
So you'll tell me if you hear the audio.
Okay.
I hear the audio.
I do not.
But I don't need to hear the audio.
You don't hear audio right now.
No, I don't know if the audience does, but I don't need to hear it.
No, no, the audience doesn't either.
So this is him.
Yeah.
Do you want me to try to share it into a window here?
I think we've been able to do that.
We'll see if you can do it.
It's an interesting thing on Rumble Studio.
Because no, it's weird.
This is a.
I'm going to have to see if they update this or can update it because when I play the video in a screen on my own computer, the audio, I hear it, but it doesn't come through to the audience.
Yeah, that's not ideal.
Okay, so I'm going to have to present.
The shoe, yeah, you go ahead and present it.
I'm going to talk while you do that.
His shoe size is too big because the proportions of this kid's body are a.
I'm not trying to be funny.
No, they're a little different.
They're not typical.
He's got very short legs.
Let's see if I hear your audio.
Yeah, I think you should.
I shared audio.
Let me see if I can make this bigger.
Is this going to, is that getting bigger for everybody?
Oh, look at this.
Now you're trying to convince me to get down with OBS because I'm not even using OBS.
This is just me using a window sharing on Rumble Studio.
Okay, so here we go.
Let's go ahead and kick the first 30 seconds away.
Okay, so let's get in.
All right.
Tell me if you hear.
Is everyone okay?
Everyone's all good.
Police responding to a Virginia traffic accident in 2024 captured these images of Brian J. Cole Jr. more than a year before federal authorities took him into custody and accused him of planting pipe bombs near Democratic and Republican headquarters in Washington, D.C. Absolutely, Joshua.
I was looking for a place that I could, you know, going on to the next lane and just small laps and focus and I just crashed behind him.
Cole was driving the blue Nissan Centra when he rear-ended the truck in front of him.
If you want to left some space, you want to hear so here you're observing the vehicle.
Does that make sense?
I'll pause it for a second.
So here's where you notice that he's looking to his right.
Some people are saying he was just looking at the license plate.
He's not.
We've done some analysis on that.
No, no, and also under what circumstances would he be writing in the license plate number on a, on a, uh, on an infraction?
I mean, the police would write that in, no?
I would think so.
Yeah.
So you'll watch him.
He'll do his head dot.
He does it about four times.
So we can, and even in this small little clip, and this is a cherry-picked clip.
I'm going to actually roll back just a little ways.
Actually, if you look here, he's got the phone right up on his face, right?
Yep.
So here we go.
Ready?
I'll roll it.
And people just watch.
He's going to basically take the, he's going to try to see if he can get his ear down to his shoulder about five times or four times.
Rock in front of him.
If you want to left some space, you want to have rear-ended vehicle.
Does that make sense?
Okay.
Yeah.
A police officer wrote him a ticket that day for following too closely behind the other vehicle.
I see that you do have a good driving record.
You have four plus points, which is good.
Have you ever gotten a crash before?
Yeah, you have.
Yeah, I've been through this process before.
The consequences of this non-criminal offense are minor compared to the federal charges Cole is now facing.
All right.
And so there's not much else in there as far as I can do.
So they unearthed this.
There's a full 45 minutes of it.
When Julie Kelly was on, and I've subsequently asked, like, I remember she mentioned during our stream that, you know, the shoe size would be between 9 and 12.
And I was like, apparently it was the FBI that mentioned that during one of their press releases.
Wait, is this Julie Kelly who doesn't believe that the FBI got the right guy and doesn't believe that this could be the right person, but celebrated this being the right person and tried to dunk on everybody that said other people could be it?
Is this the same Julie Kelly?
That is the same Julie Kelly, but that does not mean that she's wrong on this particular point because she said it when we were live and said, I said the guy's five eight or five, five, no, sorry, five, seven, and has got between a size nine and twelve.
Like, I've never known anybody, and I sold shoes that would be five seven and had a size 11 foot, like nine, nine and a half, and 10, and maybe 10 and a half, but 11 to 12.
And I was like, so apparently the FBI did say that.
And now, apparently, if indeed this is the same guy, the question is going to be in the video of the January 6th hoodie person, does that look like a size 12 foot or 11 foot?
Because apparently this kid has massive feet in proportion to the size of his body.
Yes, that will be the question.
That'll be the question.
That would be one question.
The second question is: he's looking at his phone, compare that to the pipe bomber who's there walking very nonchalantly, looking at the phone from down here, whatever.
That's going to be another issue.
Yeah.
The other problem is that nobody who's seen this kid thinks that he's the guy having watched the pipe bomber footage.
And that includes new interviews that have been done in the last couple of days, people in the neighborhood, people that have interacted with him.
He's a very repetitive human being that basically does the same thing every day, eats the same thing every day, goes to the same places every day.
And none of those things apparently include going into Washington, D.C.
So out of nowhere, this guy decides to break his whatever it is, you know, 10-year pattern of being a grown-up that's kind of living a very repetitive, controlled lifestyle, and then just decides, you know, two years ago that he prognosticates there's going to be an election he's got a problem with.
So he starts buying pipe bomb materials, never tests them, and then drives them in solo and wanders around DC and drops them in a very, you know, a very specific manner so as to avoid being seen on camera.
We don't have any information about this, the guy's vehicle that you saw there, which is going to come into play later.
That guy's vehicle shows up at a specific parking space that, you know, you can't park in Washington, D.C. without paying for it.
And apparently, he paid for everything else, the credit card and used his own phone when he wanted around.
So again, the problem always is going to be: you're trying to tell me that a mastermind criminal who will manage to avoid the FBI, let's give them the benefit of the doubt for the six weeks that after they'd already gathered everything and reevaluated it.
I asked a couple of guys that do this kind of stuff all the time that run down cell phone things for drug dealers and bad guys and child pornographers.
And you name your, you know, take your, take your pick of bad guys.
It's like a three-week case if you started from nothing.
And if you already had all the material and all you had to do is go back and suss out.
And we already know there were only like 186 cell phones that pinged in the area, 51 of whom were law enforcement that they just ignored.
Well, then that shouldn't have taken very much time.
And that doesn't take six weeks.
That might take six days if everybody took their time and they all, you know, there's enough people to get done.
Or six months, depending on when they started investigating this particular lead.
Just refresh everybody's memory.
The 51 cell numbers that they did not match with the ping, they did not do so because they were law enforcement and therefore did not need to be investigated.
Yeah, they were, they were on the exclusion list.
And we don't know that they ever went back and touched them again, but these are the questions that have been asked and they have not been answered in a way that I think is satisfactory.
So I mean, that is what we would call basically a, that's a basic assumption, right?
And so you start questioning your assumptions once you start working an investigation further, maybe your underlying assumptions have to be re-questioned.
So you assume that nobody in law enforcement was involved.
Day one, exegen circumstances, go for the lowest hanging fruit.
You run those down and then you have to open up your bucket and start adding, you know, all the things that you may have excluded.
You should never throw them away.
You just maybe don't look at them then.
They've had five years on this thing.
And also, just for nothing, you know, not to be completely ridiculous.
All we got to do is zoom back at the bigger question.
How is it that all these penetrating minds, including people that have been celebrated as going into that agency, who all said that this was a bigger, broader conspiracy and would have to be than just one person?
How does Brian Cole Jr. know where the security cameras are around Capitol Hill so as to pop up only on them during a very specific time and not at other times and basically disappear from coverage for eight minutes mid-route, disappear before, you know, entering it?
Like vehicle ingress and out and egress are both not captured on camera as far as we can tell.
Again, if the FBI had the smoking gun where they're like, look, he parked here, he got out of this car at this time, he walked out wearing exactly what the hood he does.
The cell phone pings followed out the route, which they don't do that very well.
And then he turned around, he got back into that car, and then he drove himself back home.
And that's where he went.
And the pings went with him.
And so we know, and he got picked up on a license break reader, you know, down in Woodbridge, Virginia, getting off the, you know, 95 down there.
Then you go, okay, well, that sounds pretty convincing.
It's really, it's really, really hard for you to say that we're going to just forget the last four years worth of information that's come out, including all the questions, which were very legitimate and asked by people who don't agree with me, like a Julie Kelly.
No, no, I question whether or not anyone was in touch with this kid, whether or not he was groomed.
I can understand how he might be mentally deficient, but be susceptible of grooming.
It's the type of grooming that you would expect or the type of object, subject of the type of grooming you'd expect is get someone who's easily manipulated and use him, maybe not to deliver the pipe bombs, but maybe to build them, drive into the area, give them to whomever.
But we don't know and they haven't.
Then you're implicating an FBI cover-up as well.
And then you're implicating other, like at this point, so again, then somebody else placed it, whoever that person is, and that person had awareness of Capitol Police, you know, cameras.
Yeah, well, that's how we can merge these two theories to actually work with Steve Baker's theory.
I don't think it's going to work.
I don't think it's going to work because the FBI didn't make that claim.
They claimed he's the guy that walked around on the hood and then dropped those bombs.
So basically, whatever they claimed is wrong and anything that we claim that would even like work this guy into it, we're now trying to force something in that also starts off from the wrong assumption, which is that he's involved in the first place.
That's where you'd have to prove it.
And so, and they did it the backwards way too.
And nothing for nothing.
David, the route of proving this was done by finding every single person who bought a freaking type of pipe that was eight inches with, you know, co-threads on both sides.
And every single person who bought a one-inch pipe in America, and then they narrowed down their bucket from that.
That is not how you do it.
You find the people that were in the vicinity of the actual federal crime, and then you decide if any of those people match the profile who happened to do this thing.
I'm not even sure it's not a general warrant, which is prohibited under the Fourth Amendment to go out and find every single person who bought a specific pipe in America.
The reason why I say if he was involved, then that's how he would have to be involved.
They used him and they said, and they had him always on the back burner.
If they ever got too close to whomever planted the pipe bombs, because this came at the time when someone allegedly suspected they found that person, they had this on the back burner.
He's involved.
If he's not involved, I find that one even more difficult to accept because then they are literally pinning this on an innocent, autistic, 25, now 30-year-old kid who's been sitting in a fucking jail since he's been arrested, hasn't gotten out yet.
And they've just absolutely straight up got the wrong guy, which is he doesn't walk the way the person in the hoodie does.
That's the other thing that's worth knowing.
He's got no right leg drag or limp of any kind.
He doesn't have an athletic gait.
He has something of a shuffle, is the way that people have described it.
And so the camera footage in some places are gone.
And you're going to, the difficulty in that particular neighborhood is that it's full of federal agents to include U.S. Secret Service people who work the bomb squad of all things.
They are two bomb dogs that live in that neighborhood.
So that's sort of hysterical.
You've got FBI agents in there.
You've got, you know, police officers for state and local, and you have other federal agents from intelligence agencies and so on.
And, you know, things can happen under your nose in your neighbor's house.
That's obviously the case.
But I got to tell you, like, there's some pretty alert people that are part of those organizations.
And as a guy who lived in Virginia, not far away from where they live, I was up in Fairfax County.
My next door neighbor started dealing drugs out of my house, out of the house right next to me, right?
And I noticed it right away.
It was like, oh, what's up with this guy?
Why does he do this thing?
I want him to stop doing that thing.
I think that delivering hand-to-hand transactions that mean you walk up, high-five, some guy who's got like head tattoos and is driving a Bentley is probably not the person when the car is worth more than my townhouse in my parking space.
Like I happen to notice it out my front window.
So you have to be kind of not observant to be able to see the claim was that he built like, you know, this is the argument I've seen some green berets make is that he built test bombs and must have broken because where were the other bombs?
Well, where's the other pipes?
Where are the shoes, by the way?
Like, here, where are any of the things that are supposed to be like the and and they did it five years later?
It's like all of it is illogical.
Here, you know what the other crazy thing is for the chat to get out there and discuss?
Anybody who's ever been in law enforcement knows that if you have a chance to seize a thing of value that is also potentially like implicated in the crime, then you do it.
You're going to seize a car.
That's right.
And you'd seize the car because theoretically it was the mechanism by which he went in there and delivered the devices.
There's the possibility that there's residual black powder or whatever else is from in there.
So you would want to go and get a forensic run.
The car is still sitting out in front of his mom's house as of right now.
Today.
It's just sitting out there.
Okay.
So that doesn't happen in FBI cases.
Let me give you just a contrary thing.
I worked a case, I worked in an office up in northern Montana.
It's called Shelby, Montana.
There's about 2,000 people live in the town and they work Indian reservation crimes out there.
And I joined them for a temporary duty for 30 days.
And while I was there, I went out into the gym, which was the garage, and there was this piece of shit truck that was hanging out there.
And it had a shattered windshield and a bunch of junk and trash in the back of it and leaves.
And it was like, it was wrecked.
And it was like a, I don't know, like a 1986 something, like a shitty Toyota jacked up, broken thing.
I couldn't even tell like necessarily what it was.
I go, what the hell is that out there in the garage?
And they go, oh, it's evidence.
I go, okay, evidence in what?
And they're like, evidence in a homicide.
It was a vehicular homicide.
Somebody ran another person over in that truck and then they drove around and they hit like a rock.
And then the passenger died going through the windshield or something.
And then the driver was caught, but like a year or two later, like committed suicide.
So nobody owns the truck anymore.
It's still like a, it's just a thing.
We don't have anyone.
We can't return it to anybody.
So it just hangs out there in the garage and it's been there for eight years.
That's the FBI we're talking about.
My buddy told me for a fact that the FBI has a severed head hanging out in the freezers or in the refrigerators of the Miami field office because he brought it back from like the Dominican Republic on some dude who got killed and cut up and it was an American and they brought the head back in a jar or like in a bucket and then nobody knew what to do with it.
And then they closed the case because all the guys' family members all died because it was a hurricane or something.
And so they have this severed head just hanging out in an evidence fridge forever.
This is the FBI we're talking about.
They don't get rid of it.
They're not taking the car.
Well, especially since it could have material.
I mean, I presume they're.
Yeah, you theory.
It was on the license plate reader.
So it's actually implicated in the complaint that they've given us so far.
They're not taking the car.
The shoes.
So, first of all, so everybody appreciates the walking style of this kid is totally not like by all people who seem to have seen this.
You can look at yourself who know him.
Doesn't walk like the person in the hoodie.
His shoes are very large.
Now, the question is also my question: did he buy these shoes?
Because if he's got those Nike shoes and they're only 25,000 made and he's got a size 11, size 11 probably represents like at most 5% of all sales of these shoes, unless the argument is he got them aftermarket.
Does he have the shoes?
Did he get the shoes?
And they should be able to show that.
That would be, you know, good evidence.
That would be circumstantial evidence, but it would be interesting.
Yes.
It would be, look, if you're going to build a circumstantial case, you better have a lot of circumstances that overlap to the point where you don't have anything else going on.
At the end of the day, though, that's not, that's not what the burden of proof is in the American justice system.
It's beyond a reasonable doubt.
And my question is.
If a reasonable person can doubt it, then you got promised.
Whether or not they're going to have these charges get dismissed because they're not even sufficient for probable cause.
But they alleged he bought the pipes.
He bought this.
Nothing about having bought the shoes, of which there were only 25,000 ever made.
They cost a lot of money.
And he's got a size that's not the most common in sales.
Nothing, not boo.
You've also heard apparently that there was a competency hearing that was recently, or not a competency hearing, but a competency evaluation being done very recently.
So that was in the last couple of days.
And so what the result of that is is unknown.
He may not be fit to stand trial.
Just kind of depends on whether or not they can decide whether he can hold the ideas in his mind that he was even competent to do this.
But the broader problem for me is that I don't think he did it.
And I'm not saying that out of a vacuum.
I'm saying that I've seen exculpatory evidence that would lead me to think that they probably have the wrong guy.
And I think a DC jury would agree with that.
And it's not my evidence to share with you right now.
But I think we can agree that if there's evidence that shows that he was somewhere else doing exactly the same thing that they claim he was doing in the place where the pipe bomber was, in other words, if he was doing something with his phone in a place that also makes sense, then you have a much, much harder time disproving that he was either driving, walking, you know, filling another activity.
And so how do you overcome that burden?
Do you even, what AUSA wants to bring this case?
Which, by the way, they haven't gone to grand jury with it yet, which tells you something.
That should tell people a lot.
They didn't take this for an indictment.
They took this to a magistrate judge where a case agent swore it out to a judge in a written format, an affidavit, as opposed to going out and doing like the QA version of what the grand jury process looks like.
And just a refresher for people that didn't hear previously, but grand jury is you, the agent, come in and present your case by being asked questions by a prosecutor who wants to bring the case.
There is a pool of citizens in the grand jury that are secretive and they get to listen in and they get to hear whatever evidence.
They can ask you questions as follow-up.
They present you, you present whatever the evidence is that the attorney wants them to see.
So you ask questions about the case file.
You can show certain exhibits and so on.
You can read lab reports out to them and so on.
And then you leave and then they vote and decide whether or not there's enough to meet the burden of probable cause only, which is a very low standard.
They didn't do that.
And that's telling too, because that's how the FBI brings cases, particularly long-term cases.
Like I don't, I don't know a case that's been five years in the works and they run and get a complaint.
You think they straight, like I, you're going to go with it's straight up the wrong guy.
He had nothing to do with anything.
And then and then had, and then he only bought those materials if he did, in fact, buy them because they're regular household materials.
Maybe he was building pipe bombs, but it doesn't mean anything.
Like, like the problem with the pipe bomb story that they, that they left the hole in, which we don't know the answer to, is where's the bomb part?
Homemade black powder is not something that is everybody can make.
Well, that's why that's why I'm going with if he's not.
And those are things that are much more controlled.
Like, look, if you wanted to go out and find all the people that bought the materials to build like, you know, it's saltpeter and it's charcoal and, you know, some sulfur.
Don't give the instructions, potassium.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Like, there are places you do it.
And then how do they know how to mix those things?
I mean, well, that's why I, if I believe that he actually bought the pipe bombs material and he was involved, I would say they used him as a Patsy.
He delivered the bombs.
And then we have someone else planting them.
Why didn't they evacuate the neighbors?
We just had a whistleblower complaint come out the other day saying nobody evacuated.
Because I suspect nobody evacuated the neighbors, which is not what you do when you send in a bomb squad.
They're going to say it's just, that's FBI incompetence.
That's not this administration being in on the setup.
It is horrifically overlapping incompetence and excuse.
Like if you have to keep making excuses for the case, the case is not good.
And that's the argument against it.
It's like, wait, if I have this many questions about it, and look, we don't know all the evidence that they're going to present, but we know what they presented to a judge and what they argued, because that's what the judge signed off on.
And I think the judge probably didn't understand how pings work.
So that's problematic.
We just have not a great option.
And again, if everybody who looks at the guy goes, that's not how he walks.
That's not what he looks like.
And you don't have him without a mask getting in and out of his vehicle or proving that he was in the place at the time and no one can say otherwise.
That is not a slam dunk.
And we haven't heard anyone believe that's the case.
It's not even a slam dunk.
It's just, it's, it's just nobody believes it.
I mean, that's the thing.
It's like, I have yet to meet, even Julie Kelly does not believe it.
Even FBI agents who are in the FBI that are around this thing, including people that are even on this task force, don't believe it.
That's how bad this case is.
That is not, that is not a thing that you'd imagine people bringing.
Well, and that is going to segue into the next subject, which is Bongino resigning or leaving.
I don't know if you call it a resignation, quitting.
Who was it?
I forget the guy's name, not Sean Martin.
It's one of the guys who's saying, you know, Dan came for a short period to do a specific mission.
That's Mike Davis, probably.
Mike Davis, yes.
I mean, I don't like Mike Davis.
Well, no, like or not, you read the replies and like, Mike, you got to see what people are saying.
And not that you should be beholden to the opinion or the blowback of your audience, but if nobody's believing it, and I mean nobody, then there might be a problem with the explanation that it might not be believable.
Bongino's out.
And then I know that you've been inside this, so you know how this works.
The first question is going to be NDAs.
Yes.
And I think I'll bring this up here.
This is a Rustang from our local community says, Viva, are you going to pursue answers to the questions General Flynn's son is asking of Dan Bongino?
And I think this is the tweet.
NDA or no NDA will have no choice but to blow the cover off why he chose to leave.
Was it because you couldn't work with Bondi?
Is Bondi useless or corrupt?
FBI cash out of his depth and had no business being given the reins of 20 plus thousand large organization.
We'll need to know from your perspective if the FBI is salvageable.
First question first, Bongino and everyone within the FBI has signed an FDA, an NDA?
Multiple times.
Yep.
You sign it to sign on.
When you get read into any sort of security clearance, you sign an NDA.
That's normal.
That's for national security stuff.
You sign an FBI NDA as well, which says you're not going to talk about casework and things that you had specific knowledge of that came from what you did.
And then if you want to go write a tell-all book one day, then theoretically you're supposed to get it blessed off on by the agency, which leads people always to the question like, what the hell do you do then?
And how come you think you can get away with it?
So I want to answer that just if that's okay, because I think it's actually really funny.
I had a moment that was one of the dumbest moments that I've ever been a part of in government, but it's classic government.
I had a woman write a letter that I had to sign that removed me from federal service.
But I signed my NDA first.
So they gave me the NDA for the national security stuff.
By the way, I won't give up any national security information.
I'm not going to talk about the technologies.
I've had multiple NDAs for special programs and so on, and I sign them and I will keep those secrets.
And you keep them to your grave.
There's no term limit on those things, by the way.
Okay.
So even if it comes, here's the way the NDAs are structured.
This is the same for military as well.
If it comes out in public space that something that you learned to be classified is being talked about as a, as a, you know, now it's been not declassified, but just shared or leaked, it's still considered classified for your purposes.
So that's how that works.
And it's an NDA, obviously, during, and then there's a certain period afterwards, which I would imagine imagine lifetime for anything which you have a specific personal knowledge.
Yeah, I don't remember there being any limit on that at all.
I'll have to double-check my paperwork.
I may get back to you on that one.
I'm sure I have a copy of mine sitting somewhere, but here's where it got really weird for me.
So I signed my NDAs as required.
They gave it to me.
They said, hey, you're being read out of your security clearance.
I'd already been read out of the special programs.
So I'd already done that stuff.
I'd already signed additional NDAs previously.
They bring me the ones.
Here's the, you know, the FBI NDA stuff.
And then they handed me a letter and they said, we need you to sign and acknowledge that this is the case.
And the last or second to last line on that letter was, you are now removed and relieved of all duties and responsibilities as an FBI employee, which I thought was really funny.
So I show it to my buddy who's an attorney.
And I go, Hey, man, he does employment law.
I go, does this cancel out my NDA?
This guy given to me last.
And he goes, gray area.
He goes, Are you going to go?
Do you want to talk about stuff?
And I go, Yeah, I do.
I want to talk about the stuff I did.
And he was like, up to you.
Generally, you know, attorney recommends don't do it on course of safety, but screw these people.
So, you know, that's what you're going to do anyway.
Right.
And I go, I don't know.
I just read the plain language.
I'm not a scientist and I'm not, I'm not a linguistics specialist.
And I certainly don't have like a background in contract law or two types of these like employment documents that are clearly at odds with each other.
And I'm not going to give up anything national security, but I'm going to go talk about the screw ups that I saw in the FBI, which is mostly policy.
So, yeah, so that's why I keep talking about the things that I do.
And I just think, I don't think Dan's in that scenario for whatever it's worth.
I don't think he's getting kicked out the way that I was.
So he's going to be in the classic move, which is that you sign an NDA and then you see what happens.
Yeah.
And for people to understand, like, I don't know how it works within the FBI, but when you have like certain non-compete clauses and non-disclosures, if you get fired, especially if it's fired without, well, if it's fired without cause, they cannot, your employer can't avail themselves of the limitations of a contract that they breached on their own.
And my removal from the FBI was not performance related when I was suspended and removed from all my duties and responsibilities.
It was, it actually says it's not duty.
It's not, it's not performance related, which is really funny.
And then afterwards, they came up with it and they're like, also, we think you're the worst employee we've ever had.
And here's all these terrible things about you.
I heard you shot at someone on a shooting range twice you fired on them and you somehow are walking free after having that's what I heard too.
Yeah.
Interesting enough, there's a main right-wing media outlet that wants to do a hit piece on that specific story.
And I encourage them to go ahead and run it.
I said, please do.
That sounds very fun for me.
I would enjoy to hear what you come up with.
But I said, if it was me, I wouldn't run that story because it's ridiculous.
And I've actually talked to people about it plenty.
This is not a secret.
You didn't just like uncover some dirt on Kyle Seraphin that no one's ever heard of before.
It was congressional testimony that was perjurous.
But end of the day, I don't think he gets to go out and tell everything.
Here's the reason why he's really not going to tell anything because the NDA, non-NDA, whatever.
The real reason he's not going to come out is because it's going to implicate the administration.
And we're in this weird space where I heard Liz Harrington.
I just played it on Alex Jones on another channel a minute ago.
I played it for them.
We could play it if you want to see it too.
I don't mind.
But there is Liz Harrington saying that the FBI can't be redeemed and Dan Bongino leaving is essentially proof of that.
And if you think Dan Bongino was like a high competency person that knew how to manage the FBI, and I don't, but let's say he was.
If he can't do it, then what's the next step?
And then I've also got this other video that I watched earlier today and I played on my podcast of Glenn Beck asking Harmeet Dylan, like, hey, where are we going to see the arrests?
Who's going to be able to actually be held accountable?
Like the real promise of the Trump administration was all these things that we were going to go do.
So where are they?
Are they ever going to happen?
And her answer is, is that like, well, there's all these people that are entrenched inside the management and all these employees that are doing what they've been doing for a long time.
And she doesn't say that the argument is, is that you can't do it with these people, but the answer is you can't do reform with the same people.
That's a pretty standard rule.
Machiavelli talked about this.
I think I've read that to you previously, but there's essentially that you got two choices when you do a regime change.
You can either exile or execute everybody that's involved in the previous regime.
You can't keep them on board because you can't trust them to do what you want them to do.
So that's where we're at.
Yeah, where we're at.
I said, Bongino wouldn't, you know, airing corruption or blowing the whistle on corruption is different than airing your grievances on personnel decisions.
Like some people are going to say, well, if Pam Bondi is incompetent, then he has to blow the whistle off.
And it's like, no, that's administrative decisions.
Yeah, that's Donald Trump's decision.
That's Donald Trump's decision.
Now, if Pam Bondi is taking kickback, and I'm not saying this as a matter of fact, just as of the example of a violation of listen, there's a standard for rule whistleblowers and it's rule policy or law violations.
Those are the three things.
And then the last one is sort of more nebulous, but a gross incompetency that results in a danger to the public.
That's how the FBI can blow the whistle.
It's not even like up for debate.
It's very narrowly carved out.
The FBI has their own whistleblower statute, which had to be added in 2016 because the original federal whistleblower statutes did not apply to the FBI or the CIA or the NSA at all.
So they got their own, we got our own.
And so the FBI Whistleblower Protection Act, which by the way, has absolutely no balls or teeth, kind of like when you say release the Epstein files and they just don't do it.
It's the same thing.
Apparently, the news of the day is they need an extra few weeks, but we're going to get some new stuff today and people are just going to flip their effing lids.
No, they're not going to give us anything that we want.
It's just going to be and I'll bring this Michael Flynn's NDA or no NDA.
He'll have to have no choice but to blow the cover off why he chose to leave.
No.
In fact, he's probably legally precluded from doing so.
He's absolutely gotten hammered for leaving nine months into the stint.
Is Bondi useless?
Or if she's useless, it's also, that's a false dichotomy there.
This is not, it's not an either or thing.
No, but all I'm going to say is if she's useless, it's not up to him to blow the whistle off that.
That's what you call airing dirty laundry, which he won't do.
If she's taking kickbacks from Pfizer to kill the KTAM lawsuit by Brooke Jackson, that, like you said, would be breaking the law, violative of rules, or the And he still doesn't get a chance to go to the media with that.
For whatever it's worth, that's not the route you can go.
You don't have that opportunity.
So the way that you become a quote-unquote whistleblower is you have to actually go through one of the approved channels.
And the channels are someone who's in your chain of custody, which means she would have to actually go to Pam Bondi or go above either chain of command.
Chain of command, yeah.
No, no, no.
I always say chain of management because there's no, there's no like leadership and there's no command really in that way.
But yeah, so you have to go up your chain.
People understand this.
You don't just go to a, you don't go to Viva and say like, I'm blowing the lid off at Viva.
That's not being a whistleblower.
And that's the funniest thing.
And so people were like, well, what did you whistleblow to?
It's like, I went to Congress.
How the hell would you know?
Like, I went to, I went to Yvette Harrell, who took things to Jim Jordan.
And then I went directly to Jim Jordan with a dozen things.
And I went to Josh Howley with certain things.
And I went to Chuck Grassley with some things.
And none of those people, you know, they don't ever go out and go like, that's the whistleblower.
In fact, the statutes actually tell them they're supposed to keep our identity private.
And so that actually doesn't work in my favor when I was going out publicly.
But I've got something like 18 or 20 different distinct whistleblower activities that were done, allegations of rule, policy, or law.
But the most famous one that people remember is that I allege that Merrick Garland perjured himself in front of Congress.
And they'll be like, well, when did he do that?
It's like, well, he was saying that the FBI would not be looking at parents and using counterterrorism resources to go after them.
And my allegation was, I think the FBI was doing that.
And I think he knew it because I got a memo a couple of days later from the FBI, from the counterterrorism department, saying they were going to be looking into parents at school board meetings.
So if that's the case, then he may have lied.
And that was the allegation.
That was the first one that people were aware of.
That was not the way that it was framed in the media.
They were like, parents are being looked at at school board meetings.
It's like, well, there's an opportunity for the FBI to do that.
You're actually a sensible enough guy to understand the gray area there.
They have a legal ability to look at people if there's interstate threats or if they're involved in something else.
If they're part of a predicated ideology that's doing something dangerous, then theoretically there could be a case there.
It doesn't mean they can't do it.
It means the attorney general can't say that they're not going to do it and then go do it.
That's the real thing that happened.
And so these are all like, these become very like fine-tuned nuance because we're talking about law.
We're not talking about people's feelings about what the word whistleblower means or what it means for someone to come and blow the lid off something.
That's not, as you said, that's dirty laundry oftentimes.
I do a lot of dirty laundry at this point because I know all the laundry and I don't have any obligation to them.
I don't think Dan Bongino can do that.
And nor would he even want to.
He's not trying to take down the Trump administration.
People were saying like he's going to go on Fox now and stab Trump in the back.
He would never do that in a million years for more reasons than people could, you know, you have to be stupid to think he's going to do that.
My only, so my bottom line in this, and Carl, like we talked about it once before, I said, like, what could the deputy director have done?
Does the deputy director have the ability to fire a staff underneath him?
The deputy director has the ability to do all the things that the director has.
The only person he answers to is the director and everybody else in the FBI rolls up directly to the deputy director.
So that basically whatever he, whatever he could do would have to be ratified or approved by the director.
So basically.
Nope, he could unilaterally handle most of the stuff.
He's a, he's a director designee.
And most of the things that require the director are like director slash deputy director.
He could unilaterally decide to do anything.
And most of the time, the director is actually doing vision, policy, guidance, and, you know, kissing babies politically, you know, testifying about it.
They deliberately don't run a lot of stuff by the director because the director is one, not an FBI employee and not a lifelong FBI employee or a career FBI employee.
So you take the person, imagine like the chief operating officer of a business.
All of the operations run through the DD.
That's their job.
So they handle all that business.
And that's the sad thing because the recommendation we had was actually very operational.
The things that I and my crew recommended to Kash Patel specifically, but it would have gone to Dan as well, was that don't fire people.
That's a bad idea.
That's actually a terrible idea in federal employment.
Like because then you get lawsuits and then you're tied up with that crap and then you get bad headlines.
The best thing to do is promote people to jobs that they don't want to work anymore and then they stop working for you because they resign or retire.
That's real easy where they ask for a transfer somewhere else and you allow them to leave.
So promote everybody to be in charge of Guam.
Like you're in charge of federal crimes at your home in Guam.
You're going to go deal with the brand new established office in the center of Puerto Rico near the Arecibo freaking transmitter and go look for spies out there in the freaking jungle.
Like F off and get out of here.
No one gets to argue constructive dismissal for that type of change.
No, that's built in.
Every single person who is an FBI agent or analyst, which is going to be all the people at the top there, they all have a mobility agreement similar to what you sign in the military, which says that you serve in the location at the pleasure of the FBI.
And the expression is needs of the Bureau.
In the same way the military might say needs of the Air Force, needs of the Army, needs of the Marine Corps, whatever.
They send you to where the needs of the Bureau are.
And if somebody in the Bureau, particularly the Deputy Director, decides that you are needed at the Arecibo Transmitter in the middle of the jungles of Puerto Rico, then that's where you have to go.
And it's an honor and a privilege to go out there and be in charge of that little space, you know, that's nine feet by nine feet in the middle of the jungle.
You have to drive an hour to every day.
And that's where you got to go.
That's where your job is.
And so you're given all the special perks of being able to move to Puerto Rico and you get hardship pay and all that.
And by the way, get the hell off the continental U.S. and go away.
And so they could have done that right away.
And that's what they should have done with everybody they want to get rid of.
And listen, here, let's just talk solutions because they still have time to do this.
Okay, fine.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
I want to tell you.
Short version of it is you need good people that you can trust.
The good people that are working investigations are good people.
There's plenty of them that are morally flexible, but a lot of good people work investigations.
How about the ones that are the highest performers in actual investigative work?
What the FBI does, bread and butter.
So you take the criminal division in every single field office and give me your top three or top six employees by statistical accomplishments who have opened the most cases, gotten the most convictions, gotten the most prison time for bad guys, served the most, done the most grand juries and indictments, like take your pick, whatever the accomplishments look like.
People who are competent in the criminal sphere do the same thing for national security, probably for counterintelligence and for counterterrorism.
So now you got a pool of like 300 to 500 people that are not crappy and you can pick them for senior leadership and you ask them to step up and jump up the ranks.
Then you go to your supervisor roles and you find who are your longest serving supervisors that are most liked by the people that work for them because they do that.
It's called a climate survey every year.
So you find out how much you're liked by your employees.
They get to do anonymous surveys where you get fired if you screw up.
But the climate surveys have removed people from their jobs before.
They take supervisors and say, hey, you suck at being a supervisor.
You can't do it.
So you take those and get your top three, four, five, six, whatever the pool needs to be.
Take those people longest serving in their specialties and with the most like of the people that have worked for them that have shown that they could be good managers at the ground level and ask them to step up.
And then the last thing we suggested was take the program management from Washington, D.C., which gets done out of headquarters and allow that to be done remotely.
So if you run, let's say, a transnational organized crime, so that's going to be like mafiosa organized crime type groups, whatever it is, MS-13, take your pick.
And you want to stay where you live in New York or you want to stay where you live in Pittsburgh or you want to stay where you live in North Carolina, then you can do that job remotely because you're managing an entire district zone that is going to be remote either way.
You could do it from DC or you could do it from where you are.
Just do it from where you are.
You don't have to move your family.
So then you get people that don't want to move to headquarters that will actually stand up and volunteer for jobs that people don't want to do.
Instead, what you get is the slimy, the people that want to go to DC.
So we gave them a way to turn FBI culture on its head and take people who do the work and move them into positions to be able to handle and control the work.
They didn't do that.
That was a mistake.
I mean, I'll just objectively tell you because the results were not what we hoped they would be.
And everybody else can look at it.
That's why social media is a buzz with Dan Bongino failed, which he did.
It was predictable because you didn't follow a roadmap laid out by people who understand what the enemy looks like.
And an enemy is the right word.
The question is this.
It'll be your assessment.
Why do you think Mongino left?
Oh, hold on.
Can I show you why he left?
Please.
Allow me.
Allow me here.
That's disgusting.
Very interesting.
Very quickly.
And I'm going to end while you pull that up.
I'm going to propose my conspiracy theory is that, okay, go for it.
It's so easy.
Listen, this is why Dan Bongino left.
Ready?
He'll just tell you.
Take the job.
You know, you can't tell your audience for years, go out and do stuff.
Talk is cheap.
And then when the opportunity comes to do stuff, I didn't mean me.
You know, I meant you.
It's kind of a, you're a fraud.
I mean, you don't sound like a fraud.
You are one.
So it was a lot.
It's been tough on the family.
People ask me all the time, you know, do you like it?
I say, no, I don't.
But I didn't, the president asked me to do this to like it.
You know, you know what he likes going into an organization like that and having to change things and make big, bold changes.
But, you know, I was at one of our facilities yesterday down in Winchester and a woman who worked there, very nice said, you know, I used to watch your show.
I miss you.
I said, you know, I miss me too.
You know, part of you, part of you dies a little bit when you see all this stuff from behind the scenes.
Take the job.
First of all, that's such a wimp thing to say for people who go overseas and serve in the military and spend time away from their family.
I got friends that did temporary duties longer than Dan Bongino did that job.
So that's why, though, he told you right away, this is how I know he was leaving in April.
That's why I posted it in April.
I'm like, he's gone.
He's gone by the end of the year.
He doesn't stick around because he told you he doesn't like the job, nor should he.
It's not a good job.
The people who do that job are weirdos.
They're people that love the FBI.
He doesn't love the FBI.
And he doesn't have 20 years of history that says the FBI should be what I think it should be because I've been in it for 20 years.
That's who the deputy director is.
He had no business being in that job.
You know, not because Donald Trump didn't ask him.
He should have had the, the, he should have had the humility to tell Trump, like, I'm not the right guy for this job.
I would be, I would be great for Secret Service, not so much for this.
I analogize it a bit to the, I analogize it a bit to the practice of law.
Like any lawyer who likes the practice is either, I mean, a psychopath or they are idealists who believe that they're actually going to change things and then give them 10 years where you realize you're only pushing paper and it's all corrupt to the core.
And then maybe I'm projecting my own experience.
Then you leave.
Then you're like, I'm not making any difference in this world.
I don't care how good the pay is.
Right.
And so, in which case, you know, Bongino.
You either have to make a fortune at the job or you have to feel like there's meaning in what you're doing with the suffering that you go through.
Absolutely.
My buddy who's a 2A attorney, this is the other version of it.
He's a 2A attorney.
He's been working at it for years.
He's incredibly good at it.
He works for like gun owners of America and some other stuff.
And he like fights for American civil liberties.
And he hates being a lawyer, by the way.
He absolutely despises it.
But I came to him and I'm like, hey, you're my buddy.
Can you give me some advice on this thing?
And he's like, that's not my type of law.
An honest broker knows where they're good, knows where they're not good, and understands their limitations as a man and just says, look, for all, like, I may be an attorney and I may be barred in that area and I may be able to go into that court, but I will ruin your case because I don't know the policies, the procedures.
I don't do that type of law in that locality.
I'm not your guy.
And that's what should have happened for this.
He should have said, Secret Service, I have knowledge of, but it's old.
But if you want me there, I'm your guy.
And the other answer is, let me help you find the right guy because I think I know what it should look like, but I know I'm not it.
That's what a real person would have said about that, if Dan was being honest.
Yeah, well, and I can imagine he had these illusions of not of grandeur, but of awesome.
Like he's going to get in there and revolutionize the FBI.
And he saw what it was after nine months.
And he's eating crow on a daily basis because he can't say what he believes anymore.
He's got to repeat the lines of his bosses, which is DOJ, and which is, at the end of the day, Trump's DOJ.
And so he just said that that's it.
But now I've been operating on not the basis, but my own theory that, you know, the Epstein debacle was, if someone viewed that as sabotage to discredit Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, they wouldn't have done anything any different.
If somebody wanted to silence one of the biggest, most populist voices for the conservative movement, Bongino can't go back to talking about the three biggest issues of our time: Epstein, Jan 6, and Butler.
He cannot talk about this anymore.
And so they have successfully taken him in, ruptured his support because there's a significant portion of the internet, whether you think they're real or not.
And I know that they're real people who say, I can't trust Bongino now.
He spent five years telling me about the Epstein importance of Epstein, that Jan 6 was an inside job, and then gets up there and tells whether or not he didn't have the liberty to express his own opinion anymore.
Says Epstein killed himself.
Butler acted alone, no social media.
And Jan 6, it's this 30-year-old autistic kid.
So he successfully delegitimized Bongino, at least in respect of some of his former audience.
But now he can't go back to talking about these things.
So what?
He's going to be a bona fide cheerleader for the Trump administration and he'll be an attack dog on the left.
Works for Benny Johnson.
Works for Benny Johnson.
Just saying.
Well, but no, but even Benny, Benny has on people who question the regime.
Benny himself does criticize when it's warranted.
He might be a bit of a, he might be a bit of a, he plays the good game of politics, but he definitely still holds the administration, their feet to the fire when they're making objective mistakes.
You know, the Epstein files are one of them.
But now Bongino has been verbally restrained.
He's going to, if he goes back to podcasting, he will not be able to talk about the things that he was actively involved in at the FBI, which are the biggest issues of our time.
That's one hell of a successful way of not censoring, but of silencing the most effective spokesperson for he did it to himself.
Let's be real.
I have all these clips on my computer because I think they're going to eventually be useful to me very soon.
Also, Dan said he was going to, you know, Dan's henchman said he was going to come after me.
Jim Verdi, who's his producer, said, We're going to address the seraphin problem soon, or we're going to address seraphin soon.
It's like, dude, first of all, shame on you.
You want to punch down.
That's that's pretty pathetic.
You guys have a national microphone and a nationally syndicated radio and a huge podcast.
So you're going to go out there and do that.
Like, that's pretty lame.
But on top of that, and I'm not afraid of it because the scrutiny is really easy.
It's like you got into a space that you said yes to, and the results and the consequences are yours.
You're not a victim.
I'm not going to allow somebody to give up their agency and say, well, I didn't have a choice.
You had a choice.
Every man has a choice.
Whether you're willing to pay the cost for that choice is another animal.
But I would say that he absolutely had the choice to tell Trump no.
That could have been done.
So I think that's pride, hubris.
Take your pick.
Or, or this is his way of telling Trump no.
Like, look, you're not listening to me.
You've, you've embarrassed us.
You've made us say things that we knew are not him saying no.
If he was going to do that, he would have done it.
He would have done it months ago.
He told you he was miserable in April.
That's why I know that that's how I knew he was going to quit.
I know he wasn't going to stick around.
Misery with the prospect of making a meaningful change on the big issues.
I think Dan knew he couldn't do that right away and he'd be foolish not to.
When you walk into the FBI, you're like, oh, this is a dumb, this is not what I thought today.
My first day, I think I told you this, right?
My first experience in the Bureau.
Tell me again, because I think I don't remember.
I got called last minute to show up to Quantico.
They had a date booked months out in advance and they called me on a Wednesday and said, Can you start Sunday?
Can you leave your wife and your family and your life?
And can you be here by Sunday to start?
That was my first, like, and I was like, what the?
I go, how much time do I have to decide?
And they said, well, someone else may take this spot.
So you probably have 12 hours, but you should probably call me today by the end of the day if you're smart.
And I went, well, and then I went, well, what if they never offered me another shot again?
What if they just kick my, what if they cancel my academy?
Or I don't, because that's the, that's the thing that's always on your mind.
You're like, oh, are they going to just rescind my offer at some point?
Is that like a positive?
You didn't say yes to the thing, jumped at it.
So I look at my wife and I go, hey, should I like, should I roll up my tutoring business that I'm doing right now?
Should I just take the car and drive across the country and leave you with no prep?
And she's like, yeah, you need to.
So I called him back and I said, yeah, I'll be there Sunday.
So that was the agreement.
So I drove out cross country.
We had two vehicles.
One of them was very reliable.
And one of them was sometimes mostly reliable.
Like I hoped it was reliable, but I wouldn't have driven it across the country.
I left my wife with this, with the hopefully reliable vehicle.
And I drove the reliable one because I had to go like over, you know, like 1500 miles or whatever it was.
And I drove from Texas to Virginia.
And I showed up my first day.
It's like noon.
And I walk into the FBI's academy and I expected it to be legit, like all hyper-competent, hardcore capabilities.
And what I got was an obese 50-something-year-old black lady.
And I thought I was being punked.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I walked up to the thing and she's like, Welcome to the FBI.
And I was like, Oh, hello, ma'am.
I'm checking in.
I'm Kyle Serafin.
And she was like, Here's your folder.
We're going to be meeting up in about an hour and a half.
And so you can go have lunch in the cafeteria if you want or just kind of wander around and jump on a tour.
And I went like, This is not hardcore.
I was wearing my suit that I thought I was going to have to do like push-ups in.
I thought I was going to get smoked on the floor like you do when you go to a new unit in the military.
Very much the opposite.
And it never once regained the footing that I would have expected with it.
It never once came back.
Dan probably got there the first day and was like, This building is shit, which it is.
It stinks like mold.
And the people here are just drones.
They're not evil.
They're just going about their day.
And none of them think that what they're doing is a problem.
They don't even know that the American people think that they're the issue.
Just saying.
Yep.
Well, they won.
Clown, they won, and they've will, they've effectively, if Bongino goes back to podcasting, I think, you know, I think most people would forgive.
There's someone in the chat said, I'll always trust Dan always.
I mean, that's good.
You shouldn't always trust anybody except for your spouse.
And even then, you can have some good cause for doubt.
Not projecting.
That's like you, because yeah, no, you should.
That attitude right there is the reason why we have a problem in this country.
It's called parasocial relationships.
And the idea, like, how, do you know Dan Bongino?
Have you met Dan Bongino?
Have you had conversations with Dan Bongino watching his podcast is not the same?
If you trust fill-in-the-blank celebrity person because that person's never lied to you, you have no idea whether that person's lied to you.
Are you looking at parasocial?
A parasocial relationship is a one-sided bond where a person feels they know and have a relationship with a media figure, celebrity influencer who doesn't know they exist.
Oh, okay, fine.
I didn't know that was what it was called.
Of course, you know what it is, though, because there's a ton of people that have parasocial relationships with you and they have some with me.
And I try to remind them.
I'm like, don't do that.
Well, I don't do that.
I know that I'm trustworthy, but that doesn't mean I'm not infallible.
And I know that.
It also doesn't mean that anyone else knows you're trustworthy because just because you believe you're trustworthy doesn't mean they know you.
Here's the thing.
It's super strange.
You get these emails too.
I know you do because I get weird ones.
I get DMs where people start telling me about how, you know, what we're working on together.
And I'm like, buddy, or they'll like, they'll be like, I need you to investigate this.
It's like, who the F are you?
Why are you?
How did you get the idea that you and I are working on something together?
Like, I'm not trying to be mean to you.
I'm just saying, let's have a realistic expectation of I present information.
I expect it to be critically analyzed.
Sometimes you're going to agree with it.
Sometimes you're not.
That's what's supposed to happen.
If you think that because you agree with someone every single time, they say everything, you're a crazy person.
That person's doing a cell job on you.
Nobody agrees.
You don't even agree with your spouse on everything.
I don't agree with myself on it.
That's exactly right.
And you've got doubts.
So, so, but me, Mom, bottom line, Dan is out, and I think we agree on the same reasons for why he's left.
It's, it's despair and it's, he's, he's fed up with it.
I also heard some stuff about family.
Um, you know, people that you and I both know that have talked to him personally.
It sounds like there may be a family issue.
It's hard on, it's hard on spouses.
It's hard on a spouse when you're in your 50s and you haven't expected to do deployments.
And I know that he used to be on the protective detail for presidents, which is a lot of travel.
So that's hard.
And at some point, he walked away from that.
And that was, you know, almost 20 years ago, right?
I mean, it's been a long time since Dan was involved in leaving family for U.S. government because, you know, God and country calls for you to go do your duty.
And so he's not in that mindset anymore.
He's in the guy who's worth $200 million and hangs out with his wife and can jump on a private jet and fly to like cool places of the weekend and come back and still do his job.
So he's in that phase of his life.
I imagine it was a very rough awakening.
Forget the money part of it to just be like expected to be here at this time and people are trying to give you briefings and stories and you have responsibilities that are way bigger than just your podcast network.
If Dan wanted to take a day off the podcast, he just would take a day off the podcast.
If you take your day off as a deputy director, you better have an acting deputy director who's going to sign FISA warrants for you that day.
And it better be someone that you think is trustworthy and you're in an organization you don't trust.
So I'm empathetic actually to that.
I wouldn't want to go do that job.
That was the whole point.
I told, I don't know why Dan would want to go do that job.
If he had called me up and he wouldn't have, but if he had, I would have honestly told him, even if we were like not friendly, if my enemy called me up and was like, Seraphin, I got an opportunity to be FBI deputy director.
I'd be like, I don't even like you, but you don't want to do that job.
That's going to suck.
Find somebody else.
When it comes to service men and women, leaving your spouse to go for extended periods of times to foreign countries, it's not, I say it's hard on the person going to like Iraq or Afghanistan, but the wife or the spouse living alone, married, but effectively single, raising a kid.
Yeah, we call it geobachelor, geobachelorette situation.
Yeah, it's I lost my wife for five months when I was at the FBI Academy.
I only saw her one time for like two days.
And so that's not fun.
You know, that's not fun at all.
That's a bummer, especially when we'd been married for a couple of years.
We didn't have any kids yet, so it's just her at home.
And that's not ideal.
But like a lot of people go through that, and a lot of people figure it out.
But it's like I said, though.
And so, if you're if it's if it's your marriage is going to go or the job is going to go, that's an easy question, too.
And if that's what happened, and we heard that was maybe the final straw, then maybe he would have tried to stick it out longer, but that was it.
Look, I don't have any beef with that.
Like I said, I thought he was going to go at the beginning of the year or at the end of the year, rather.
I thought he was going to be done.
Thanksgiving, Christmas, take your pick, doesn't matter what.
And why would you stick around knowing what you know?
And he knows enough to know.
I mean, within six months, he probably knew it within six weeks.
That this is like a shit show organization.
He's not going to be able to make the institutional changes.
Now, Dan, the podcast man, and Dan, the deputy director man, agree with them.
They are a unified Dan that says the FBI is irredeemable, except he won't be able to come out and say that.
Podcast Dan used to be able to say that.
Current Dan cannot say that because now his rep is tied to it.
He's got to claim some victories.
So that sucks.
Look, I don't like people being muzzled by their choices.
It doesn't benefit the American experience.
It doesn't benefit the media world to have people who are not able to come out and speak transparently.
And you and I see this all the time.
We see all these people that we're like, who's paying you?
That sounds like that sounds like a load of bullshit.
That sounds like it tasted as bad as it sounded coming out of your mouth.
And we see him and we're like, and I call it slop now.
That's the kind of the term, right?
There's an awful lot of slop out there.
And we're supposed to just eat it up because the person that we like, that we have the parasocial relationship, said it.
It's like, I trust, you know, I trust what's his name, Ed Martin.
And I'm like, I don't even know Ed Martin.
He follows me on Twitter.
Like, I think Ed Martin has said some of the right things, and maybe he doesn't do the right thing all the time.
I don't know.
And I think Ed Martin has got to say some of the things that he's got to say as well.
Some of it looks like it tastes gross.
Yep.
Some of it looks disgusting because you work for the government.
It's just fundamentally unbelievable.
Yeah, he came.
It was, we always knew it was going to be a short stint.
No, he didn't.
He accomplished the goals.
You know, crime, trafficking, fentanyl, yes, and they deserve the wins for that.
Epstein, Jan 6, Butler, they didn't.
And now he will not be able to speak freely on it after he leaves, which is a big ass problem.
Here, this is the one Joe Maskew says.
To this day, one of the craziest things to me is that both Cash and Dan named names of people who they believe committed federal crimes.
But when they got in, those named names are untouchable.
And it's actually, it's worse than that.
And this is the problem because people bought into the they name names thing, like, okay, well, that's who they're going to go get.
You know what they didn't name the articulable basis for predicting a case on them inside the statute of limitations and the actual federal crimes that were being committed, because that's the issue.
The real, the real black pill, which sucks, that people should consume it and then operate with you know intelligence and skepticism is that a lot of the things you've been told that you know are morally detestable, that you know are wrong with every fiber you're being and given a choice to make the choice, you wouldn't do it.
They're not illegal, and that's the craziest part.
The Mar-a-Lago raid, not illegal.
I think it was woefully badly advised.
I think it was horrible policy.
I think it was atrocious for this nation.
I think it was a sin of this nation, but it is not legally impermissible.
If you go get a magistrate judge to sign off on, even if you don't believe the probable cause, just like the Pipe Bomber case, I don't think there's probable cause there.
But a judge agreed.
And so that's a lawful arrest until proven otherwise in a court of appeals.
You got to go out there and make the argument.
And they haven't gotten there and that didn't happen.
So maybe Trump goes out and pushes and tries to get that whole thing.
But at the end of the day, they've dropped the prosecution.
It's been declined.
So it might be considered moot by a court.
And so we're in a real bad spot where people bought into something is going to happen and it's going to happen to fill in the blank people.
And we've got a list and it's in the back of government gangsters.
And this is the hit list.
And we're going to go get all these quote-unquote deep state actors.
And then you find out what these people did was 100% within the purview of their department.
And it was authorized by.
They got him.
Hold on.
Let me make sure that that is actually on Kyle's end and not on my end.
Locals did.
Did Kyle disappear or am I the one who disappeared?
Hold on.
Let me see what's going on.
There's nothing more sinister than an ex-FBI whistleblower.
There he's back.
Okay.
Going dark as he's blowing the whistle, sir.
Okay, we thought they got you for a second.
He did get.
They got me.
Can't speak that truth.
That's the problem.
The problem is, is that a lot of this stuff was legal.
Let me pause here because I think people are going to say, yeah, it's technically by the letter of the law legal.
That's where the true letter there is.
You're a lawyer.
You know that.
Well, no, but I also know that if you want to make it illegal, you can find a way to go.
You could find a way the same way that, you know, Biden administration founded a way to make it illegal to protest.
I mean, I'm trying to think of concrete examples and I can't think of any offhand.
The problem is, is when they go out and do that in the entire system on the inside, this is why you have to either execute or exile people.
And I don't recommend execution.
I mean, like, sort of like politically execute them or, you know, sort of like weird.
They're going to clip it.
They're going to clip it, Colin.
Now you're going to be able to get it.
Let it be.
That will not be the most ridiculous thing that I've ever said.
Or the most awkward.
If it comes down to Seraphin said, exile or execute people, I'll be like, yeah, I said that.
I don't care.
Like, that's the answer.
That's obviously the answer.
So my point to you is, is that if you go out there and try to do the half measure, which is what they did, Jim Comey, what did they get him for?
Deep state corruption?
Two bullshit.
James Comey.
Two bullshit.
Two bullshit charges.
Yes, two bullshit charges, which included basically false statements.
It was a perjury charge and like an obstruction charge, right?
Yeah.
And did they fall through?
Yeah, because why they were weakly predicated.
They were basically, if you had people that were on your side, when the left takes these shots, they don't miss.
When the right takes these shots and the institutions have been captured, they don't stick.
And that's how I know that it doesn't matter whether it was technically illegal, you know, technically legal and you're going to go play around it.
They're going to play the technical card.
And guess what?
The people who are going to be the referees, they're on the people's side.
That's how it plays out.
The subway guy, the subway sandwich guy gets off for throwing a subway at the cops.
I mean, that's black and white, letter of the law, illegal, gets off.
Michael Sussman in D.C. gets off.
And then Navarro and Steve Bannon get to prison.
They don't miss.
I'm not lying to you when I say they don't miss.
I'm not lying to you that this was a fight to the death.
So then the question is, is why did we not have people that went in there and acted like this was a fight to the death?
If you're going to go and be in charge of an agency and you know that the uh, the that, if you don't do this right and, by the way, they set the precedent now we've now seen FBI directors indicted for bullshit you think Kash Patel's not going to prison?
Sorry, Cash is going to go to prison, I don't know what.
At the end of the day.
I know he perjured himself at his confirmation hearing.
So if we get a Democrat president in 2029 and they are so inclined, I don't think Cash is even going to be sticking around that long.
If I, if they're smart, they get rid of him before the midterms, but if he's around, they'll toss Out, and they'll do the same thing they did to Jim Comey, but they won't miss.
And that is the thing that these guys don't seem to be playing like.
The left plays for keeps.
People shot at Trump.
They went after him with every single thing with backup plans and contingencies to the backup plans and contingencies.
They went local.
They went state.
They went federal.
There were charges at every single level that you could do in our judicial system.
And it doesn't matter.
They will try to take a shot and one of them will hit.
That's what they do.
And someone's going to get on board with it.
That's why he's a convicted felon in New York, right?
So we're not going to see.
Tina Peters, is she out of prison yet?
No, she's not doing well in prison either.
Despite they're going to go investigate, they're going to go investigate corruption.
The left doesn't miss.
People should put that on a t-shirt so they remember it.
It's not a great message.
It's a warning to people.
And so when I go out there and say things like in a very, you know, sort of one, I'm a little bit bombastic, but two, I'm also kind of like looking at like, I don't want someone to kick down my door.
And the only thing I had this funny conversation with Milo Yiannopoulos this morning, of all people, and he was like, you still have some trauma from your FBI experience, sir, or something to that effect.
I'm like, yeah, I do.
No shit is exactly right.
But you know what?
The funny thing is that trauma keeps people from coming through my door when I get death threats, which I get them.
I get, I have, if I open up Facebook Messenger, which I don't use, but occasionally I'll open it up because I'm doing something else or I hit the wrong button.
It's a slew of people who have shitty things to say.
It's a bunch of boomers with their kids and pictures and stuff.
And I'm like, what would cause you?
Like, it's a guy.
You're standing there holding like your daughter who's or your granddaughter.
And then you test this like horrible things about my wife and me.
And you don't know anything about me.
And for, and I'd bite your throat out and eat your soul.
So what are you talking about?
None of these people ever show up at my door for a reason.
I have a lot of trauma from my FBI time.
So I'm like neurotic.
I go get the mail.
I've got a pistol on me.
I go to church.
I've got a rifle in the car and a pistol on me.
Like I have backup plan.
I went to freaking a parade the other day for I went to a fucking Christmas parade so people understand what kind of savage you're dealing with here.
And I had a folding carbine inside of my freaking sling bag.
And then they kept bringing candy to my kids.
So we filled the carbine bag full of candy.
It was like candy and an AR-15.
It's the weirdest shit you've ever seen, but this is the way that I operate because, yeah, I know that they don't miss.
And so if somebody ever wants to come and finish the job of like kicking me out and trying to keep me quiet, it's the reason why I'm on podcasts.
It's the reason why I started doing media.
It was because it's talk or die.
It's make yourself a big enough target that they can't take you down.
Dan's going to have to talk, but they've effectively silenced him on some really important things.
And he's also done something that you can't get away from.
You didn't succeed on the thing that you've been talking about for years.
And that I think is actually very, very difficult for people to square, which is why there's going to be a lot of folks that are, they'll tune in for a week to see what he says.
And they are going to, they're going to lambast him.
They're going to be blocking people in that rumble chat left and right.
The moderators are going to work overtime because people are pissed.
You made promises.
You made claims.
This is, did you watch Top Gun?
I don't know.
Do Canadians watch Top Gun?
Did we lose you?
Did I lose you?
People in this car at church.
There we go.
There you are.
Yeah, okay.
You're back.
Did you watch Top Gun?
You remember Top Gun?
I have back in the day.
There's a great scene in there, right?
Where the, no, well, that's not even, that's not even a good sex scene.
You know, this song, Take My Breath.
Yeah, the song is good, but like shadows.
It's shadows and sheets is what's going on in that.
It's very clever.
Before we like totally lost it, and they were just like, put nipples and ass everywhere.
Just show them what you're looking at.
So yeah, we don't do that anymore.
No, the captain of the aircraft carrier, I think he's a captain.
He's standing there and he's chomping on his cigarette, a cigar.
And he goes, your ego's writing checks.
Your body can't cash.
That's a terrible sin in the media world.
If you got an opportunity to do the thing you talked about and then you don't go do it.
That's not good.
No, and I can tell, I know I read the chat and I read the comments.
What they're doing.
Sometimes it'll be this.
Well, no, and some, and sometimes it hurts because you know it's true.
But what they're going to say is it was one thing to have done a number of things.
It was to get up there and say Epstein killed himself.
And, you know, that's it.
That's one that people are not going to forget, even if all he was doing was being compelled to repeat the line of the boss.
If only he warned the audience what to look for and he said it a million times: sound bites and snapshots.
Those are the things that make politics, right?
So there are Dan Bonginoisms that he coined as his own expressions.
And his audience, the ones that are being honest, are going to remember that he said it.
And now he's not able to go out there and capitalize on it.
So it's that scene from Top Gun.
It'll be that scene every day because people are going to look at it and they go, look, man, how do you even talk about something critically when there's a guy named Chris Pieho?
Do you know who that is?
His name is Piho.
Yeah.
Sorry, because I heard Piehole.
Shut yourself.
His name is Chris Pieho, and he was the number four person in the FBI.
He was what?
It's a position that doesn't exist that I guess Bondi that Patel and Bongino got rid of.
It was called the executive assistant director level.
So it goes director, deputy, then the associate deputy, and then executive assistant directors.
There's like six or seven of them.
And he was that.
So he was known.
He was four away from the top guy at the bureau, which means you're the top guy in your branch, which is a huge number of people.
It's 8,000 people or something.
And he went on the cleared hot podcast.
He went on with Andy Stump.
And Andy was like, hey, man, you're over here talking about how there are all these problems in the FBI.
Like, what did you do to stop them?
And he was like, well, I realized the agency was going the wrong direction and it wasn't, and I couldn't do anything.
So I left.
I retired.
And he was like, well, why couldn't you do anything?
And he was like, well, I just hadn't earned that right or that privilege.
And I wasn't at that level.
And he was like, what do you mean you weren't at that level?
You were the top four dudes in the entire agency of 40,000 people.
You were the top four.
And he was like, well, and he has no answer to it.
And then so it's like, it's like, well, you were the top two people.
So forget what Pieho said.
Now we go to the top two.
If you couldn't affect change, then all you're telling me is that the answer should be it cannot be changed.
It needs to be on the ground.
Yeah.
Yes.
And then people are going to say, well, we need a federal, we need a federal law enforcement agency.
Prove it.
Like, that's what I'm going to say.
Prove it.
So federal crimes.
Who's going to enforce federal crimes?
I don't care.
You know what's the funny?
It's super easy.
I actually have an answer for this too.
It's like actually the easiest thing in the world.
We have $11 billion we spend on the FBI.
We could get rid of the ATF if you guys want to.
We can get rid of, in fact, that would be a great idea.
Get rid of the ATF, get rid of the FBI, get rid of the DEA.
You can still have the Federal Marshal Service if you need a fugitive task force or whatever, but like, I don't even know if you need them.
And now you've just freed up a huge amount of DOJ's money.
That's probably $20 plus billion dollars.
Maybe more.
Take all those monies.
And maybe you keep the lab division, man.
I don't know.
Like, maybe you keep the FBI's lab division.
Maybe you keep the ATF's gun lab division.
Maybe keep the clandestine laboratory that handles all the drug testing and all that stuff.
Maybe you keep those because maybe they're really good.
Okay.
So keep those, the administrative stuff, farm it out to something else.
You know, it's Department of Justice, you know, laboratory division.
Take all of the money from these agencies and send them to the states by per capita, you know, based on population size.
And then here's the way you would do it because we already have a model for this.
It's called the federal task force system.
You familiar with these guys?
Nope.
Joint terrorism task force.
You've heard of that.
Yes.
What is that?
It's an FBI agent.
It's an IRS agent.
It's a ATF agent.
It's a state police officer who's got, you know, who's a senior detective.
It's a guy from the local police department.
It's a guy from the sheriff's office.
And they all work on terrorism stuff or whatever.
They have it for what's called, they have it on Safe Streets Task Force.
And what they do for these local police officers and these state police officers is they deputize them as federal deputies and they get authorities under Title 18 and Title 21 to enforce federal law, but they don't stop being peace officers in their own capacity.
Okay.
So they still answer to their own departments.
You could create task forces of guys who are deputized to be federal that are paid for with federal dollars for overtime and salary and equipment and gear and give them the ability to bring a case to United States attorneys that is still already there and have no FBI, have no DEA, no ATF.
And these guys would do the same work, but they would also be accountable to something else, the deadly force policies of their own attorney general in that state.
And the local might be able to switch it over.
If they didn't like the way that the sheriff's department is running, you can get a new sheriff.
If you don't like the way that your state police is, you could vote in a new governor and he could put in a new commandant or whatever.
So you'd actually have some accountability to the local people instead of having an unaccountable resource where we don't know what the hell the federal government's doing.
And these people are so divorced from any of the voting base, you got nothing.
So if you want accountability, I'm always about like states' rights, like divesting centralized power down to the sort of anti-federalist status.
So get it to the city if you can, get it to the county if you have to, state if you must.
And then the federal government, God forbid.
That's kind of like the tears of what I hope we don't do.
Well, that would put you right back squarely, at least at the state level.
And if you wanted to do that, we could do that tomorrow.
We literally could do that tomorrow.
Maybe you would have some of these great agents, and there are some hired on by the states, but you could just set up some parameters.
It's like, listen, someone has to have 10 years of investigative experience as a local police officer.
They have to have a fill in the blank record.
They have to go through the polygraph and so on.
They have to be financially solvent.
And then you get senior investigators to come in and do that work and you get real cops.
And by the way, the best part of it is they have extra authorities.
They could do pulling people over.
They have all the accountability that goes on in your state, whatever the rules are.
And you can live where you want to have the federal deputies do what it is that you like.
So if you want to be a fro freedom place, you go to Montana or Texas or Florida.
And if you want fascism, then you can move to New York and California.
Like you do whatever you want.
You could live in the America part that you want.
And that's what this country was designed to do.
50 laboratories for freedom, find the best answer.
I mean, that's Kyle Seraphin's answer to it.
And that was me spitballing it like two years ago because I don't think you need an FBI.
I don't think there's a, I don't think there's a way that you couldn't solve the problem without it.
It's not, it's not an indispensable thing in this country.
And certainly the extent of its size right now.
Kyle, how much time do you have?
I don't want to keep you here.
It's Friday and I work for me.
So like I do whatever.
People, if you disagree with that idea, or if you like it, put it in the comments.
There you go.
I'll just.
I mean, it certainly makes sense.
And, you know, for the, for the level of national coordination, you can have a national coordination task force without having 35,000 agents that are politicized and with morally, what did you, what was the word you used?
Morally flexible.
Too many of them being morally flexible.
We found that about a lot of people during COVID.
We found out a lot of law enforcement is morally flexible.
I am not.
I'm not a morally flexible guy in that way, unless you hurt my kids, in which case, then I just don't even know if morality comes into play.
I probably go to hell at that point.
I don't think you'd go to hell if it's righteous.
Jinger Ninja says to go along silently with corruption is to be corrupt.
Bongino, Dan has now irredeemable reputation.
He's earned it.
Doug Lee Fen says, Kyle, with it becoming more obvious no one's going to jail, would you be happy with all the information coming up but no charges?
And is that a possibility? says Doug Lee Fenn.
I don't know if that's a, well, it's not a possibility.
So let's just be realistic.
Otherwise, all the Epstein files would be out and they still wouldn't have anything going on with it.
Is that a good answer?
I prefer more truth to less truth every time.
I think that's reasonable.
I prefer truth that does damage.
You know, like if something bad happened, my wife came to me the other day and she told me something like that she did something in the house and it caused damage and she looked horrified.
And I was like, what is the extent of the damage?
Like, explain to me what you've done to this house that I have to fix.
Cause like, you know, that's just my.
And so she told me and I went like, okay, well, we're going to get some epoxy and we're going to solve this problem.
Like, that's what's going to happen next.
Got it.
Thank you for telling me the issue.
This is the same thing I try to teach my daughters.
You know, the cover-up is always worse than the crime because what you've also added is now deception and you've ruined trust, which takes longer to bring back.
So yeah, give me all the answers.
And if you're telling me, hey, we're not going to prosecute these people because we can't, because technically it was legal, but here's all the bad stuff that was going on.
Yeah, tell me that.
That's fine.
And then let me vote accordingly.
And hopefully we also vote to say things like, well, the federal government is corrupt and sucks and it's far away from us and unaccountable.
So maybe Americans do what the Ninth and Tenth Amendment intended them to do, which is that they handle things locally.
They solve problems and they recognize that certain rights are not even the purview of the federal government.
The craziest thing is, I don't know if we said this the other day when you and I were talking.
I want your reflection on this because I don't know if this is true, but this is what I think.
Democrats, the solution to every problem is always, and this is people on the hard left right now, it's always more government.
Like some government will solve whatever problem, but Republicans aren't any better.
And because what they say is every problem in government needs to be solved with more government.
And my answer is always like less government.
So if we could do less of the thing that causes the problem, then that would be good in my case.
And I would, you know, it's like, well, how do we solve homelessness?
It's like, obviously, we need a faith-based community that has, you know, moral values and community that comes together and solves problems and thinks that homelessness is a problem.
And then we fix it without being mandated to.
You can't mandate charity.
John Madison said that.
James Madison rather said that.
You can't, that taxation and using it for charity is actually like antithetical to the reason they built the Constitution.
So, okay.
So let's do that.
Let's solve the problems as locally as possible.
But what I see is two parties competing for which government solution are we going to do, not one says more, one says less.
That's a big difference from the 80s.
No, it's also with when it comes to the homelessness, those types of examples where you just have a proven track record of decades of government involvement and it's just getting worse the more the government writes.
Yeah, you didn't do a good job.
So what are we talking about here?
Let me see.
Oh, we got Bill Tong.
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How do I do this?
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Kyle, did I ask if you wanted any Bill Tong?
We have some.
We're experimenting.
It's different for children who are acclimated to eating American beef jerky.
They're not ready for it.
The American, not that there's anything wrong with jacklinks, but I can't go back to that crap.
I mean, the sticks in the gas station, they're good because they're soft and it's like car notzel.
Oh, yeah, I don't like that.
I like real beef.
No, well, I like the other one.
It's just too dry and it hurts my jaw.
Bill Tong is just perfect.
Do you mind?
You want to talk about the Brown shooter?
Okay.
So first of all, there was an arrest.
It follows a week of abject incompetence.
Wait, was there an arrest or they found a dead guy?
They found a dead guy.
I'm sorry.
They arrested.
They find a dead guy.
They find a dead guy in a locker in New Hampshire that he's renting after he allegedly drove from Miami to Providence, Rhode Island.
After they said, and I brought it up in the beginning, but after the mayor comes out and says, you know, there's no continued threat to the public, the eve of the Brown shooting, when this guy, if it's the same guy and the right guy, goes on to murder an MIT professor.
Yeah, they've said that happened.
They said it.
I just have difficulty believing anything, but I know what I also can't reasonably question until I have a good basis to do it.
There was also an article from a couple of days ago.
I don't know if you saw this, where Israel, or at least Netanyahu, always looking for a way to go to war with Iran, says Israel is examining the possibility of Iran involved in the murder of nuclear scientists in U.S. report.
Yeah, ruled out, ruled out at this point.
No, I mean, it has to be because the guy's on a mission to kill the nuclear physicist, and yet he's going to start off this mission by shooting up a classroom of kids.
Yeah, random students.
If it's the same, if it's the same guy.
So, so personal grievance, this is the story.
Sources, FBI Boston, people that I trust out that way, that sort of thing.
My, you know, I know people from there, and I had friends that I have friends that I've known since I joined the FBI that are out that way.
A couple things that were interesting.
Number one, this is a crime that the secondary crime was enabled by left-wing lunacy.
And so we had the computer, we had the camera system at Brown University disabled as relayed to me by people who have access to the evidence response team for the bureau.
These people went out, disabled their own cameras in order to thwart ICE.
And so I had heard two explanations.
One was to thwart ICE.
We saw that video clip.
And the other one was to, I guess, facilitate aggressive pro-Palestinian protests.
I don't know which one.
It's the same sort of sentiment at the end of the day, but my understanding was that they were basically trying to not have a physical record or like a camera record if ICE came looking for someone that'd have to turn over.
So if you don't have it, so this is the equivalent of basically walking around with your pants down around your ankles.
And when someone grabs your ass, you're shocked that it happened.
It's like, well, this is, and here's the really horrible part because if they had cameras that were functional and they were actually able to ascertain who this person was with any sort of degree of certainty because of the cameras from where the actual crime took place, things said, you know, people hear things when shots go off.
They don't have good recollections.
There's a lot of trauma that goes on, blocking out and all that.
So maybe eyewitnesses aren't great.
But if they actually had something that would link it together, then the possibility is that you actually don't have that MIT professor killed.
And it sounded like maybe killed in front of his daughter.
Is that what you were reading as well?
12-year-old daughter opened the door and the guy killed the dad.
I hadn't heard that, but that's that's what I remember hearing something to that effect.
All of it is really bad.
That was something that should not have happened.
And also, it tells you, you know, my question was incompetence by the FBI?
Was it intentional?
Were they just doing theater kicking the snow around?
Which I think they might have been.
What the hell are they looking for?
I don't even know what they were looking for out there.
And I don't know that I've ever seen an evidence response team go and do a snow kick as a tactic for looking for something.
And I don't know what the hell they would have been looking for in that snow anyway.
And if they didn't have cameras, to indicate there was something there, like I think they were just taking up space, kicking around snow.
So that was really weird.
I'm trying to find the name of the guy that the pro-Palestinian activist on the university who was, if to the extent this all turns out to be true, wrongly suspected.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, because of the abject incompetence of the university, like how hard would it have been to issue a statement to say positively it's not him that he looks the same, but it's not him.
And then not they didn't have cameras.
I don't think they knew.
And that's the worst part of it.
I think they were actually actively trying to make this thing sort of a cover-up.
There was a great clip from one of the reporters who was like, just admit that you didn't have cameras on in the room.
Like, and you didn't have cameras on the building.
And they're like, oh, well, we're still looking into it.
And they mealy mouth garbage.
At the end of the day, what we had was a catastrophic failure of a basic security system that should have been there.
And does it stop people from doing shootings?
Of course not.
It does not.
But if you turned off all your cameras and all your security guards and your cops and your dispatch don't have a way to look in on what's going on somewhere, then you're not going to get quick dispatch.
That's why he was able to get away is most likely because you don't have good reports of where people are and what they're doing.
If you've ever had an eyewitness try to report where a vehicle is, if you ever try to respond to like an accident scene or something, people are atrocious at describing where they are.
And, you know, I used to do that for a living where I would drive and I would see something dangerous while I was doing surveillance and I would call stuff into 911 dispatchers.
And they would always, they're like, they're like, who are you?
I'm like, oh, I'm a surveillance guy looking at a freaking like overlay of a map right now.
I know exactly where I am and I can give you grid coordinates if you want.
That's not common.
So when you have a shooter and nobody hones in on it, that guy should have never escaped the campus.
I mean, he should have never gotten away.
And you would know that if you had cameras up and people were doing the job that they were able to do and they were able to vector into the threat, you could follow him and find out where the hell he went, but they didn't.
And so they ended up with just like a couple of things from before.
And it was, it was, you know, many hours later to days later and somebody else died because of it.
It's that's crazy.
I'm showing his name now so that everybody knows that this was not the guy, but suspect.
That's funny.
Why will it not let me show the his name was Mahmoud Karbouche?
And there were some people looking at the things.
I was A, you know, not reluctant, but waiting the 72 hours before even mentioning the story of the Brown University allegedly scrubbing their intersites of him.
They didn't have an answer for that question, which is a legitimate question.
Now that you mentioned it, it's like funny, they might have thought it was him as well.
And I think they probably did.
Yeah, I think they probably did, based on what we know about what goes on there.
And that's insane.
I don't know if the family of this MIT pretends.
Oh, so the guy that was that did the shooting and was found deceased inside the storage unit was a Portuguese-born person who came here on a lottery system visa.
So got here kind of like on a whim and then apparently had an unfinished advanced degree at Brown, had done some time working with somebody at MIT as well and had personal grievances against these people.
And so that's what it ended up.
It was 100% personal from everything I can tell.
But against against the university university and the professor specifically, I guess, the person that he ended up going down and hunting down in Boston.
But the reason that they found this person was because it happened in Massachusetts and Massachusetts State PD is very competent.
And apparently Rhode Island, if the purview where it takes place is under the jurisdiction of this university police department, then they are absolutely like, you know, woefully and intentionally incompetent based on their decisions.
It is your understanding also from your sources, which I would find very reliable.
They did, in fact, disable the cameras and it was to thwart attempts.
That's what we were told.
Yeah.
I guess they tried to export the information down and run it through the labs that were down in Virginia and there was nothing there.
No, it's an amazing thing.
And so the unit, this is the man who was suspected by some who these stupid ads, who you can't blame him, kind of looked like the guy in the video of the university.
I mean, inso much as it was like a soft body, it was a soft bodied person.
Roughly the same.
I just had to say, this is not him.
And so whatever anguish he's gone through over the last week is understandable.
Well, how about the army guy that the FBI went and hemmed up?
Do you remember that happened on Sunday?
I remember, well, I remember that they had announced someone.
Yeah, he was a white guy that had been in like an advanced unit that did, I think he was part of the maybe the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, Honor Guard, something to that effect down in Washington, D.C., like a distinguished guy and spent a number of years and did some stuff in like either Signal Corps or something like that.
And so, yeah, they announced his name and they search warranted his house in Wisconsin, which is always a bad day when somebody kicks down your door and goes and searches your property and they busted into his hotel room and held on to him for 12 hours and said, you've got a Glock pistol and you've got a revolver.
So, and it was like, it was nothing.
And Kash Patel went and tweeted about it, said how great it is.
We've got this guy and we've got a guy in custody.
He was a person of interest.
Donald Trump, you know, that's another piece of egg on face.
And so this is the problem.
And I don't know whether it's he's so thirsty, and I use that word very intentionally, but I don't know if it's Patel is so thirsty to try to claim wins on social media, which is awful, or whether it's FBI is setting him up with bad information.
Because again, that middle management, it doesn't, they don't not benefit.
Nobody in the middle of the FBI is embarrassed for putting that information up and getting it briefed to the boss.
And then he goes out there and tweets it.
And they don't like it, by the way.
The FBI does not like you tweeting their garbage every single time they do something.
It is the opposite of FBI ethos.
Kind of like there's a lot of military units that don't want you to go out there and toot the horn about what the mission you did was.
It's like, get back to work.
The job is the job.
If you're out there for glory, you know what?
I actually agreed with Chris Ray.
I found this out about him today.
You know what one of his expressions was?
Be a workhorse, not a show horse.
He used to tell people that.
It would bother people sometimes.
That's a great attitude for people that want to do real work.
It's unfortunate that it was Chris Ray, and I don't agree with a lot of the stuff that he did.
Well, it turns out that's a better attitude to aspire to than go out and be tweet first and then apologize later.
That's not a good attitude.
That's a terrible When abused, is a weapon and not a tool.
So, recapping, the cameras were, in fact, turned off.
That allowed the guy to get away, not be identified, that allowed a student to be misidentified.
It allowed this man while that smiley jackass mayor saying, no broader threat to the greater community, man goes out and kills another professor, Portuguese national.
Um, and they both were takes his own life, uh, allegedly in this New Hampshire um storage.
Uh, did you hear this that the case was broken by a post of a of a homeless dude who's sleeping in the bottom?
So, this, I have, I found it.
This is the actual screenshot.
I've archived the link as well.
This guy says, Lamina Caare says, I'm being dead serious.
The police need to look into a grey Nissan with Florida plates, possibly a rental.
The car he was driving, it was parked in front of the little shack behind the Rhode Island Historical Society on Cook's side, Streetside.
I know because he used his key fob to open the car, approached it, and then something prompted him to back away.
When he backed away, he relocked the car.
I found that odd.
So, when he circled the block, I approached the car, and that is when I saw the Florida plates.
He was parked in the section between the gate of the whatever.
Um, some people are saying, Why the hell is there a homeless person sleeping in the bottom of a Brown University campus?
Some people are saying this doesn't make any sense.
A homeless guy.
I saw the video of the guy.
I mean, there's video of the interaction that they had.
They had some sort of altercation, apparently, too.
I've seen that out on social media.
There's a couple of freeze frames of it.
So, um, I think this did happen.
People were saying there's a number of good reasons why even a homeless person would have uh electronics.
And oh, all homeless people have electronics.
What are you talking about?
Homeless, homeless.
What do you think homeless people do all day?
They're like, I think they're all on Twitter.
Uh, well, on Reddit.
So, this guy posted that, and that apparently was the big break that there were Florida plates.
They were able to track the car down.
Yeah.
And Massachusetts State Police did what they do.
They're a competent agency from everything I'm aware of.
And it sounds like they got to work and they started tracing to the rental agency and so on and so forth.
So, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, awful, awful situation, but it didn't have to go that far.
And that's what's the crazy part.
And the reason it went as far as it did.
Again, like, you wouldn't have stopped the mass shooting with having cameras.
And the university president said that, and I agree with her.
But you probably could have stopped another person being killed.
And I wonder if that family goes after that $8 billion endowment that you've got for depriving them of their loved one because of your incompetence and a thing that you should have, that you probably have some kind of a duty to have as a public university or as a private university, but a public space like that.
It's criminal negligence to have disabled the cameras.
One would think because the expectation is that it's there.
And especially if you didn't tell everybody, sorry, we got no cameras.
You know, we disabled them for, if you came out and said that, here's the other thing.
Remember, it would have been better to do that than it would be to cover it up and act like it didn't happen.
You go out and you say, we don't run cameras here at Brown University.
We think all people should be able to move without autonomy and we don't want Palantir looking into who's here or whatever nonsense you have.
Then everyone would be like, got it.
Okay, well, we're not going to waste our time monkeying around and tying up federal resources trying to see what's going on.
And we're not going to have people, you know, from asking these questions.
People are going to assume that like your university campus is not good.
And they're going to expand the search right away and try to look further than necessary.
But instead, what you had is people like hoping that there was going to be stuff.
Maybe people didn't check their own cameras for that reason and so on.
So there's a catastrophe that goes on afterwards.
It's kind of like a domino effect of mistakes if you don't start from an honest place in the middle of the operation.
Not good.
It's, yeah, well, and now it's, it's been resolved.
People are not going to believe it's the same person.
People are not going to, especially those who came to their not foregone conclusions, but came to conclusions that are going to be hard to correct in their own spirits and their own sites.
That says as much about what's going on now as anything, man.
I mean, that's the real truth.
I mean, my assumption, and I said this, I think I said it on InfoWars, but I definitely said it on my own podcast.
I was like, I'm like 30% convinced that the FBI is throwing the case right now to make the director look bad.
And that is a wild thing for me to think.
And I actually do think that I actually think there's like a whole number possibility that our agencies would actually do stuff like this to make them look bad.
We know that's happening in other agencies.
And that, so if you have mid-level management that's, you know, briefing the wrong things, we've lost all faith in institutions as we should because they've proven that they're not worthy of our faith.
This is the reason why they've proven they're not just they're not just incompetent, but they are corrupt.
Yeah, they're malevolent.
And so if that's the position, it's like I'm, I am not going to default to assuming malevolence.
That's not my default assumption.
No, but when something is pervasive and continued, then I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be ruling it out either very quickly.
So it's always like a, you know, it's a whole number possibility, even if it's not the largest piece of that pie graph that I'm looking at.
That's terrible.
That's a terrible scenario.
And I can't think of a time other than the last couple of years.
I don't think there's been a time in my life when that's been an assumption that we'd be like, oh, yeah, of course the federal government's lying to us about this stuff.
Nobody thought that way.
I wouldn't have joined an agency if that was the sort of default position because people would go, why would you join those liars?
I would be like, oh, I'm not going to join those liars.
I'm not a liar.
Like, that's what we're coming from right now.
I asked our chat for questions and Jarhead asks, if you and Kyle had dinner, would you try for a kiss after?
That's not the real question that I'm asking for.
Tip questions.
Anyone wonder why?
Hold on, Jarhead said that.
Yeah, he's fantastic.
It's a good natured joke.
No, that's what Marines think.
I mean, Marines are undefeated at gay chicken.
That's a known fact.
So congrats.
You didn't know that, Viva.
You don't know that.
I don't know enough about Jarheads.
That's just.
Anyone wonder if Biden FBI hid the info on the pipe bomber so that if found, they would think it was this guy rather than the actual pipe bomber.
Oh, well, as far as you know, are you allowed to answer this question?
Look, as far as I know, the one that has been named in the article hasn't sued, hasn't made any formal request for retraction other than what they already issued, and has not filed a letter of demand that we've that I know.
Nope, none of those things.
But some of the things I'm concerned about, I have it on some offhanded background info that Bongino said that he's going to fund the lawsuit because he thinks it'll be damaging to people because it'll, because he's defending his reputation.
This was before they arrested Brian Cole.
And if that turns out to be the case, and I will be very vocal about that, and I will point to this timeline right now that this, that I'm telling you guys, if he ends up bankrolling that, that is truly gross.
And also, I'm fairly, I'm still convinced she's the right one.
I'm convinced that she's the person because I've seen footage that lines up with it.
And I, it's, it, it is, it is, it answers all the questions that needed to be answered, and it doesn't have any of the questions that you'd have from the alternative, which is how the hell did Brian Cole, this guy who doesn't make any sense?
And what is his connection to Capitol Police, which doesn't appear to be any.
And I'm not trying to make fun of Autistic, and I'm not.
It's a known fact.
Like, I've known people.
He's a bad driver.
He doesn't drive regularly.
And apparently, when he does, he runs into people.
Well, and it's also like, I have autistic children of friends and family.
Driving becomes a very big source of stress that they just don't do period or don't do well.
That he's going to now be the driver.
Well, but then, but that flip side of that, he was a DoorDash driver.
I mean, we're going to have to see the extent.
It sounds like it was like a trial to see, like, could I do something else?
He crashed the car too many times to do a DoorDash.
Yeah, because he wasn't doing it for a while.
And a friend in the neighborhood said something to the effect of like, you know, like, hadn't seen the car move very frequently.
It's not very common.
Like, it's not, it's not even like weekly.
That's what somebody could say about my.
I mean, I have a big truck and I don't drive it all the time either.
So someone might think that I also don't leave the home, which is fine.
It sounds like his doesn't leave the place that it's parked very often.
And that is what it is.
You know, you can see it from all sides when you drive up past the past that cul-de-sac.
MSP, what is that?
Something state police?
Massachusetts state police.
Massachusetts is competent to trying to frame girlfriends with their off-duty cops kill another cop.
They're not even good at doing that, but they certainly are malicious.
Every agency has its skeletons.
No question about it.
I just also think that the default position is competency.
But yes, there's also all kinds of evil corruption and the Northeast is full of it.
And Florida has them themselves.
You know, Florida has, you know, some counties where this stuff goes down.
And I don't know.
I'm not privy to all things.
I don't, I don't keep track of the stateies up in Massachusetts, but I know they don't suck at doing investigations if they mean to do it.
If they want to set somebody up, I'm sure they could do it too.
Don't believe your lying eyes, Kyle.
She was playing with her dogs, Kyle.
We still haven't seen that video.
Puppies.
Nobody has seen the puppies.
Debunked by puppies, never seen.
I'm just saying.
Kyle, thank you.
Speak to the media.
Where can everybody find you?
Because I am surprised that we have consistently so much to talk about without, it hasn't gotten repetitive yet every time you come on, but you've got your daily podcast.
Tell everybody where it is and when it is.
It's on Rumble.
It's at rumble.com slash Kyle Seraphin.
So you can find that there if you like.
Today's show is with Steve Friend.
Pretty good.
Good stuff we talked about.
And we also do it on YouTube.
And then you can find it on Spotify, which I've been a big fan of.
Are you on Spotify?
I am, but I suck.
I mean, I just upload my stuff at Spotify.
I think it goes to Spotify.
We need to talk, you and me, about Spotify only because I think Spotify is a really good spot for creators.
They host my podcast for free over there.
So if you want to do like video and audio and you want to switch between them, kind of like Apple podcasts, but you can switch to video when you want to.
And if you're driving and you don't want to be distracted, you can flip it off.
Really cool little feature.
And they host for free for creators.
So for people that are out there posting stuff, if you guys, I don't get any money from Spotify for saying it.
I just think they're really good.
So I'm kind of like spreading the word there.
They also have really good back-end dynamics.
So they give you a lot of analysis on your audience, which is cool, I think, for guys like you and me.
Anyways, it's KyleSeraphinShow.com.
I did a redirect.
So people can go to kyle serifinshow.com and see the Spotify space.
And here's your Twitter and your Rumble.
Yeah, Twitter.
Twitter's where I mix it up.
If you want to say mean things to me, that's where I will take incoming mean things.
And if you engage in, you know, either marine humor or you engage in, you know, good-hearted questions and debate, then I try not to be a default jerk.
I can't guarantee it.
It depends on the mood.
But I usually like to interact with people there because I think it does help expand my mind.
Yeah, no, I think being a default jerk becomes a bad habit.
And I'm guilty of it myself.
And then you realize you need to wait until you have good reason to be the jerk and then you give them a few chances.
And if they are the ones who are actual asses, then you can become the jerk.
But by that point, it's actually justified and you're not actually being a jerk.
That's true.
Huge Spinnaker says, my conspiracy theory, and I just saw it says, just kidding.
The main target was the MIT professor and was leading the scientists in the field of fusion energy.
Jay's after his murder, Trump media.
Jews are after.
Well, no, it's just a Jew conspiracy.
No, but it doesn't help that Israel's like, well, there might be an Iran connection.
Let's go to war.
Oh, shit.
It was.
Israel's always looking for that reason, it turns out.
It is certainly under the current administration.
They have been looking for it for a very long time.
Ask Kyle who he trusts in Congress.
Oh, you guys won't like this, but I really trust Tom Massey.
Massey.
That's pretty much it.
And Laudermilk.
I don't trust Loudermilk.
I think Lautermilk is more likely than not to say things true, but he's more political.
Massey is one of the few people that all the stuff that I've seen in public and in private and people that talk to him publicly and privately also align.
And that's not common.
And I've met a couple of Congress people, including some in Texas here that are still around.
And they're not, a lot of them are not bad people.
They're just not people like I wouldn't leave my kids with them because I just don't trust them to have the same sort of morality that I do.
So I mean, I'm a real unique guy when it comes to, I'm pretty extreme.
You know, you know that about me already.
I have really strong feelings.
I'm really intense and intense.
And I do say still sometimes not overreact, but I can understand why.
I react strongly and sometimes very aggressively, but intense is a word that people would use by default with me.
My buddy's wife said that all of us are like this.
He was a former forest ranger.
He was in the actually in the park service.
He was a what's called a smoke jumper, which is like a jump into forest fires.
Well, they're a super elite group of forest fighters because they like parachute into the middle of the fire by themselves and then just like solve problems and they work autonomously.
They're like the special forces of fire.
It's really, really nuts.
If you've never seen it, what smoke jumpers are, they're super small, they're uber elite, they're totally nuts.
Um, most of them can't like manage marriages.
Like, I know a couple of them that are like divorced because they're like such wild animals, like they're just feral creatures.
We need them, they're awesome.
But um, and all of his friends are like super extreme, and I'm one of his friends, and so his wife calls us the extremers, and um, and we're all like that.
And there are some of them are you know, former military, and some of them are former civil servants, and some of them are just like you know, like guys who build race cars and try to see if they can jump them over a cliff or whatever.
We're all a little bit nuts like that, and I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit aggro, and I will always be that way.
So, Stephen Britton says, Smoke jump.
I know that David Goggins is a smoke jumper, at least for was he?
That's what that's what Rogan said.
And I just read, check it out.
And then Bill Brown says, I'd leave my son with Viva zero members of Congress.
Bill, I would take your son because at least he could teach me also a little bit about mechanics.
Dude, Goggins was a freak.
Goggins was a smoke jumper, too.
That's really funny.
They're savages.
I mean, they like, I know what the smoke jumper selection is, having talked to it.
With uh, talked to my buddy, and he, I think he was a smoke jumper for something like 11 seasons.
They count him in fire seasons, right?
And we went into an this is the kind of guy he is.
So, we went into an REI, and this lady, this lady was saying something to us.
She was like, Hi, guys, anything you need help with?
And we're like, No, we're just walking around looking at sleeping bags, whatever.
And she was like, Oh, this one's a pretty nice one.
And my buddy goes, Yeah, I've spent 280 nights a year on the ground in that bag for four years or something crazy.
And she was like, What's wrong with you?
And he was like, Uh, I was in the forest service.
And she's like, Oh, that's a great recommendation, or something like that.
But like, what do you even say to that?
Like a guy slept in the ground for 280 nights a year.
You're still weirdo.
They're super extreme.
I didn't know that about Goggins.
Did I miss one here?
Today's the Epstein release of the files.
There will be a release or not.
No, I got that one.
Uh, test for Nikes.
Yeah, they still have, I'm not reading the name.
Um, the okay, we got that.
What did I miss?
I didn't miss one day.
One anyone wonder if the FBI hid the info on the pipe armor so that if found, they would think it was the guy.
No, so I got all the, I got all the tip questions.
Yeah, oh, rumble rant is what I might have missed.
Hold on, last one, and then we're gonna say our proper goodbyes.
All right, uh, what were you gonna say?
No, no, no, I'm looking at Goggins now.
I'm trying to think because he's done everything, hasn't he?
Uh, Goggins is crazy, but uh, but I he's crazy, but he might be crazy to the point of self-destruction.
He's got determination.
So, what did he do in the Air Force?
Was he uh he was a TAC P in the Air Force?
What does that mean?
TACP?
Uh, tactical air control party is a uh, it's a like a JTAC job.
They go and they attach to army units and go drop bombs.
For some reason, I thought he was a CCT, but I guess he wasn't.
Somebody will tell me if he was.
Um, anyway, so he went and then he was a Navy SEAL and he was on team five, and then it says he was an advanced emergency technician, and that doesn't mean anything.
And then he was a wildland forest fire.
I don't know if he was a smoke, it sounds like he was a smoke jumper, not like just a not just a um like a hot shot crew or something.
So, that's crazy.
Yeah, he's a maniac, but I would probably like Goggins because I like maniacs like that.
Kyle, Kyle Jinjinuda says, Kyle leaves his kids with cringe shaw and says, Hey, keep an eye on him, just one bladder bing, blah, blah, blah.
And then we got Massey as a Titan to treads among immoral midgets, says Joe Maskew.
Uh, Kyle, it's been amazing, it's always amazing.
Um, yep, we're gonna see what happens now with Bongino.
And do you have any does Bongino go back to podcasting?
Yo, yeah, no, he does.
I think he starts back in February.
I think that uh, he doesn't do the radio thing.
My understanding is, don't quote me on this because I can't tell you who the source was, but it sounds like Vince is going to go on and maintain the radio show.
Dan's going to come and take back his podcast February, something like that.
And it'll come, it'll be net positive for midterms.
Uh, it just will, it will, he will not be talking about the stuff that he had been talking about for the last five years.
I don't know.
My sense in the midterms is that it's the rights, it's right, it's the rights election to lose because the Democrats are polling so bad, even against their own expectations.
So they're not even pleased with themselves.
So you're seeing that kind of come out.
CNN is upset about it.
So, but the problem is, is the right has to perform.
And so the GOP needs to do the things that people that are independent conservatives like me and people that are center-right and not maybe not GOP type people and or unaligned independents that left of center, but are interested in seeing things go forward.
They're going to need to do, they got to post wins.
You got to post wins on important things and not lose on stupid things and not lose the messaging campaign, like, I don't know, not releasing the damn Epstein files if that's what the federal law says you're supposed to do.
Because Dems are going to make a big deal out of that for the next couple of weeks.
It's been the biggest.
It's going to be a freaking, it's going to be a showstopper, just a, just a shit show.
And no matter what's in there, it would be better off to not have to deal with it if they just gave it all out.
I blame it squarely on Bondi and I blame a lot of the shit that happened to Bongino on Patel and Bondi.
This I haven't, I checked and I didn't see anything.
DOJ is invoking 18 U.S. Code Section 241, placing Barack under federal criminal investigation for his role in the 2015 archive.
Q sent me.
Yeah, well, no, I didn't see this.
I just Googled it and didn't get an answer to this.
So I have not seen that anywhere.
So that's not happening.
Kyle, let us say our proper goodbyes afterwards.
And everybody watching locals, I'll have to do an after-party later.
I got to go and actually do an actual Christmas party tonight.
Kyle, it's always fantastic.
Thanks for having me, bud.
Everybody, oh, Sunday night's show, just for everybody, might not be at six o'clock because I think I got a Christmas party then.
We'll see.
I love doing a Christmas party for the.
Yeah, that's good.
Well, I love Christmas.
As do all Jews.
They should just become Christians and then they'll be happy.
It's great.
I get the best holidays.
There's a number of members of our community who would wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion.