Live w/ Stanislav Krapivnik - Military and Political Analyst on Russia, Europe & Beyond!
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Tell you one thing.
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That actually doesn't look so bad for Paris.
Excuse me, sorry.
I had to start off the show with a quick video because using StreamYard today, so I couldn't do my Viva Golf Voice overlay introduction.
And we're not going to waste too much time with the introduction.
We'll make sure that we're across platforms and live.
We've got Stanislav.
I'm not going to mangle his name.
No, Kapivnik.
Kapivnik.
He's going to tell me the proper pronunciation of his last name.
We're going to talk Russia, but we're going to talk a lot more than just Russia.
Interesting, fascinating guy who I don't want to not do justice to him.
Former U.S. officer, supply chain exec, military political expert, now based in Russia, born in Lugansk during the Soviet times, migrated to the U.S., served in the U.S. military, was repulsed by what was going on in Yugoslavia, and has made his way back to Russia.
Political, legal, well, I say legal, political analyst, commentator, amazing stuff.
First, I'm going to bring in Barnes.
Mr. Barnes, how goes the battle, sir?
Good, good.
Yes, Mr. Slavikman, as he is known on YouTube, he's been on a wide range of broadcasts, including the he has his own YouTube channel, he's a Telegram channel, also the on been on with Glenn Beeson, been on frequently with the Duran, who introduced me to him.
An extraordinary cross-section of history of someone who's born in the Soviet Union, grows up in the United States, serves in the U.S. military, then gets involved in global logistics and the oil energy trade.
And if you have that combination of experience, you're going to have a very unique and distinct and well-informed perspective on global geopolitics about Russia, Ukraine, the U.S., Venezuela, a wide range of topics that we get to broach today with someone who has a very distinct and unique and standout perspective about a lot of issues concerning geopolitics, but especially, but not limited to the Ukrainian conflict.
All right.
And now, because it's about 11, it's what is it now?
11 hours is how it's way ahead in the future.
We're going to see what Stanislav says the future looks like.
Sir, what does the future look like?
Okay, that joke never gets old.
The future looks like victory.
Stanislav, we did a 30,000-foot overview.
Well, you know, the former deputy.
Yeah.
I was going to say, you know, the former deputy Supreme Commander, LA Forces Europe, Richard Sheriff, I think he's British in this case.
He was channeling his internal Zelensky and has already announced that Pakrovsk has absolutely no strategic value.
Right.
So future looks like victory.
So Stanislav, there's going to be a bit of a delay, so we'll have to, like, in terms of the transmission of information across the sea.
So I'll be careful not to cut you off.
Give everybody the overview who you are.
I want to actually delve into your service and what you saw in Yugoslavia, but give us a detailed account of how you got to be where you are.
Well, I was born in, well, back then it was called Varshalovgrad, which is today Lugansk, which is the original name.
Lived in the Soviet Union until 79.
My father was a dissident.
We moved to the U.S. as political refugees back in 79.
And my father was very, well, he was liberal.
I won't say very liberal.
And this is the old form of liberalism, not the new whacked out crap that makes Bill Meyer into a centrist.
Well, by the time I got U.S. citizenship five years later, my father was registering Republican.
On paper, liberalism was a lot nicer than in reality.
Grew up in the South, lived somewhere in the North.
We moved first to, we were settled in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Then we moved to Ohio, where my father found a job as an engineer.
And then that company, interestingly enough, East Palestine, Ohio, the American Chernobyl.
And then, yeah, all these places I've been all of a sudden all start popping up over the last couple of years.
It's like, you know, it's like almost like sent there.
Interesting the way it all goes.
And then moved to North Carolina, to Charlotte, when Nash Engineering moved down there.
So I grew up in North Carolina.
Lived for a year and a half in West Virginia.
God forbid.
I still go to counseling over that.
And then went back to, came back to North Carolina, went to NC State three times.
I think I bought them a classroom at least, maybe two.
They keep asking for money.
Finished first degree.
I joined.
I was an RTC, Army RTC, and enlisted in the Guard, and then went active duty in 95.
It wasn't just Yugoslavia that really changed my views.
It was 1999 when I was a staff officer, captain.
I was a staff officer in the 18th Airborne Corps, G3, which is the operations branch down at Fort Bragg.
And when you get to that level, you start to see the big picture, the real big picture.
Because when you're in a brigade level, battalion, company level, you don't see the big picture.
You see your graphic out to the next scheduled out for the next six months to a year, what exercises you're going to be on, when you're going range time, what inspection, things like that.
It's the daily grind with a little bit of forecast.
But when you get up to that level, you start to see the really big picture.
And outside of the three or four months we were planning the invasion of Baghdad, which is already pre-planned to a degree because everybody works out different plans for everything.
Every country, U.S. has a plan to invade every single country in the world, the moon, extraterrestrial, zombies.
And the U.S. is not unique in this.
The Russian general staff does this.
The British, they all do it.
They got plenty of extra time.
So they just start mental exercises.
But when the mission actually comes down to, oh, now we're going to invade somewhere like that, you pull the plan off the shelf and then you bring it up to real-time reality.
But other than that, everything we did, all the exercises, big exercises, it was all about going to war with Russia.
This is when Bush Jr. was looking into Putin's eyes and saying, I saw his soul and we'll be friends forever and all that.
Meanwhile, we're getting ready for war with Russia.
And that, yeah, that sat very badly with me.
I was a captain promotable.
I turned down major's ranks.
Thanks.
Got the window of opportunity to leave at that point because the U.S. military has what's called needs of the army, which means contract be damned.
If your MOS is needed, we're not letting you go.
You can retire from, but we're not letting you go otherwise.
And I had a window opportunity to open.
And if I took majors, another three years automatically added to the contract with each rank.
That system works.
So on a political foundation, I guess I say that.
I did not want to go to war with my people.
I didn't like planning war with my people.
It's one thing against the Soviet Union.
I was raised as an anti-communist.
Actually, I'm a monarchist.
So the other extreme.
But so yes.
And then went into a good computer science was my second degree.
So I did some couple of years of programming.
But that bubble burst.
And by that time, I'd started my MBA.
And I'd switched it.
I looked at it realistically.
I had originally was project management for IT.
And I looked at it like, no, this is a dead end.
They're pumping in H-1B visas by the hundreds of thousands.
There's no jobs.
I mean, it was looking for a job.
And this is, you know, this is 2003, let's see, 2004, 2005.
You know, looking for a job was a job.
I mean, you quite literally, if you weren't the first 10, 15 minutes after a job posting, saying in a resume, you had zero chances at that point.
Because they were literally within two days, they were averaging something like 3,000 resumes per job posting.
And that was before the big layoffs today's market.
So I went, did an MBA in supply chain management and joined, went to Halliburton after Halliburton, one of the most corrupt companies I've ever seen.
I am writing a book in Russian right now on my experiences in Western companies and just the stupidity and the corruption and just the insanity I've seen in different companies.
Because a lot of the consultants will come over here.
Well, they don't do right now because of the conflict.
But they come over here, oh, you know, you Russian businesses are all stupid and all that.
But we are brilliant.
You know, you got to listen up.
But the reality is, you know, it just insanity.
Then I switched over to Cameron International, which is now part of Slumberjay, Halliburton's big rival.
And Cameron eventually I got a chance to Greenfield an office in Yikitirenburg, setting up Russian suppliers.
So I know the Russian heavy industry, especially the steel metals industry very, very well.
And I just forgot to tell them I was immigrating.
I wasn't expatting.
After that, I became, when they decided to pull me back, my former boss in Halliburton, who had become a VP, invited me to be the senior director over Eurasia for supply chain.
And I was that for about two and a half years, putting it all back on its feet from its collapse.
And then Halliburton goes in cycles.
It's insane corruption from these VPs.
They're just stealing everything blind and these directors.
But eventually you get to a point where everything starts to collapse because you reach a breaking point.
And then they bring in a bunch of people that can put everything back on their feet.
But the problem with the people that put things back on their feet is they tend to be in the way of the corruption.
So once everything's back on the feet, it's feeding time again.
And then when you're in the way of the feeding time, you got to get rid of these people.
So that senior VP, he got fired.
The junior VP got walked out.
And then they just got rid of most of the senior management team, myself included.
And then I became a consultant.
I also worked for an Italian company, Tecnomont Russia.
Oh, that's a whole separate chapter of stuff working for Italians.
That's a very unique culture.
We'll just work culture.
We'll just put it at that.
You can do whole programs on that.
And then I became a consultant.
I was running between different companies, different projects.
COVID kind of killed that.
And then when it just started to come back, well, the SMO started.
So that kind of killed that totally.
So now I couldn't get hired on these companies just because of my ethnicity and nationality.
So Russians are banned.
My last, interesting enough, my last consulting gig, like serious consulting gig, was in Ukraine in Poltava on the Poltava iron ore processing plant.
I was about a month there and I was getting ready to go home for a week.
But they found out I was Russian because I came in with a U.S. passport and at customs, just pretend I couldn't understand Ukrainian or Russian.
I guess played dumb and whatever.
But on the gig, I didn't tell them where I was from.
And it just popped out just something I answered on a question they had on how to do things.
They're like, well, in Russia, they do it this way.
And that triggered off.
And they're like, okay.
They told my senior director, who's an Afrikaner, you know, for me not to come back.
And he's like, yeah, I told him you're my best consultant.
Why?
Like, well, they said that your culture doesn't fit their culture.
I don't even know what that means.
Like, let me explain to you.
Like, you know, that's the level.
And Poltava is ethnically Russian.
They've just, that's the level of the brainwashing.
And it's an incredible level of brainwashing.
The first night I was there, I switched on the television.
And that was the last time I switched on the television because you're listening to it and it's just brainwashing.
You sit there for a month and you'll hate your motherland.
It's just non-stop brainwashing.
It's, you know, they say, how do people become like that?
Well, that's, you know, it's psyops.
The whole television was psyops back in by 21.
It's gotten much worse since then, obviously.
And then the SMO started.
And I got a couple of friends got me, started interviewing me that I knew from that.
They're working for a couple newspapers.
And then that just took off from that because, you know, I know NATO.
I know their mentality.
And actually, and honestly speaking, I came back to Russia in 2010.
And the contacts I had that were in the government, I was telling them, this war is coming.
Gentlemen, this war is coming.
One way or the other, it's coming because it's being planned.
And I know it's been planned because I was there.
So unfortunately, I wish I wasn't right, but I was right.
And I'm from Lugansk.
I've been to the front quite a few times.
First time I went to the front was south of Svatova.
That was the 24th of December in 2022.
And the reason I'm still alive is because the people across on the other side were Poles.
So the Poles were there from day one.
We went down in this big white Ford van.
And I figured 24th of December, you know, the road's not a good place because it's a pretty high road area.
But at least, you know, we get down there, at least we'll be camouflaged.
Yeah, right.
You know, Moscow was all snowed in.
You get down to Lugansk, it's all green grass and mud.
That's it.
There was no snow down there.
We got a big white van going on a very high road, and there's a valley between us and a line of hills on the other side.
And the line of hills is the line, defensive line that the Russian soldiers, that the Russian military is on.
And beyond that was the line of contact, which all fine because they can't really see us through the hills.
But then you get to this one valley that's east-west valley, and it's a turkey chute.
And we're not covered by trees.
There are no trees around us.
They're behind us.
And we're just very slow moving because the roads just destroyed.
They didn't want to kill the van.
And it's like, you know, the only plus thing is if there was a Saber round comes flying in, you know, you're not going to feel it.
You're just going to be hi, Jesus.
And that's that's the only saving grace from that.
But nothing flew in, thank God.
And then we got down to the front.
The guys that we were bringing supplies to, they were in an abandoned village just behind the hills.
And you can hear the artillery firing, our artillery, and the enemy wasn't firing back.
I'm like, so why are they firing?
Like, oh, you know, I don't know.
I guess, you know, they're not in the mood.
I'm like, but who's sitting over there?
It's like, Poles.
Like, wait a minute, 24th of December.
Hey, they're Catholics.
Oh, yeah, that's Christmas.
That's why we're still alive.
They're all celebrating Christmas.
On the way back, we found another road right below the hills.
We're pretty close to the front line, but they couldn't see us.
So we just, and it was a good road.
So we just scooted out that way.
But yeah, so we've been going back and forth quite a few times, planning another trip soon.
And you see all kinds of things, you know, on the front line, close to the front, civilians living there.
You know, the first thing that kind of blew my mind, honestly speaking, was that first time we went down there.
We were maybe six, seven kilometers, maybe a little bit more from the front lines.
And we're passing through a village and there's a burnout building in that village that got hit by a High Mars rocket.
And High Mars rockets are fired by Americans.
They're targeted by Americans.
I've been saying it for two years.
Nobody would take it too seriously.
And then thankfully, the New York Times just, you know, just confirmed everything I was saying back in last December, their article.
The building that was destroyed, there was a road working crew that was living in that building.
And they were all killed.
But we passed that.
Well, what blew my mind wasn't that.
I mean, I've seen worse.
What blew my mind as we're going down the area.
So most of the civilians have been evacuated.
Except usually the old people stuck around because, like my aunt that lives in Yisonovata, my aunt and uncle, they refuse to leave, even though their neighbor just got killed because the Ukrainians just fire random artillery shots into the city or town.
They've been under siege for 12 years.
But as we're passing, these two young girls, you know, late teens, early 20s, both of them with baby carriages with little newborns in them, come walking out and they go for a stroll down the street.
That's what blew my mind.
It's like, Christ, they're still living here.
And they are getting hit on and off, just random artillery strikes and not so random artillery strikes.
So there's a lot of civilians.
Russians, you know, Russians overall are very stubborn people.
It's pretty hard to scare Russians and they have to have to overcome.
You go to Gorlovka, which has been under siege also for 12 years.
I was videotaping in Gorlovka for RT.
It just happened to be in the area.
So I said, there had been a market that got hit by a 155 millimeter from a U.S.-made paladin that was rolling around somewhere out there.
There's an artillery duel going back and forth from the Russian side trying to kill it.
And this market got hit.
Thankfully, it only got hit at eight in the morning because it was just open.
It hadn't really opened fully yet.
Well, the guy selling cookies was laying behind me as I was videotaping this an hour later.
His wife was in the hospital.
She almost lost both or tore both her legs.
I don't think they tore it off, but they were broken and ripped off.
And there are two other women that were injured, but thankful the market was basically empty.
And then, you know, and this is the edge of the city, and the road is a death road, quite literally.
Burned out cars everywhere because they'll artillery strike the road so you can't go fast.
And then they drone strike the cars.
And people continue.
And, you know, you're walking.
We parked our van out of sight in a neighborhood, well, out of direct sight.
I mean, drones can still see it, obviously.
And as you're walking into the courtyard and you're looking around, I mean, these buildings, these 10, 12, 14-story buildings, they haven't been hit by artillery, but they're burnt out apartments here, there.
Those are drone strikes.
The drone operators, Ukraine, drone operators fly them up, look in a window.
If they see people there trying to hit, especially if it's an open window, they'll just fly in there to kill as many civilians as they can.
And I know what they're doing.
It's a drone.
They're seeing the expression of the people's face.
And you'll see burned out apartments like that.
But people won't leave.
Gorlovka's population was about 380,000 before.
It's 340,000 now, 330,000.
So most of the people have stayed.
And even though a lot of casualties, they haven't had water, running water in 12 years.
But that's the same thing.
Because the Ukrainians used armor-piercing rounds, artillery rounds back in 2014, 2015 to destroy the main water mains.
And then the pumping stations, they fix them and they get artillery strike.
They fix them, they get artillery strike.
You know, I've met the mayor of Gorlovka before on a political show.
You know, these guys, the heroes in Gorlovka aren't even military.
It's the utility workers.
It's the firefighters.
You know, the guys that are going out there to save lives, knowing that there are drones looking after, waiting to do a secondary strike or do a drone strike on them.
You know, those are the heroes, hands down.
And they've been doing it for 12 years.
Before we bridge back to both Ukraine, the Russian mindset, the Russian economy, potential Venezuela risk as well, I wanted to go back to the U.S. and watching part of this is in terms of what you witnessed and comparing, say, the Brits, NATO, Russia, versus the U.S., that in the U.S., basically we reach this, the last level of credibility or capability is Colonel.
And once you get past Colonel, we have mostly incompetent Rubes, which is not understood in the U.S., but is the political reality.
And then we have an industrial supply chain that is so bad that Russia can quickly ramp up a wide range of its munition support, military support, et cetera.
Whereas it will take us seven years to get the same thing Russia can get done in seven months.
Could you explain, like, you know, even our Under Secretary of Defense, Eldridge Colby, hope you're doing well, Eldridge?
The, is, has said the same thing.
Can you explain from your perspective, why is that and how is that?
And Americans underappreciate.
Yeah, we have a $1 trillion defense budget.
It mostly goes to crap.
And we don't have competent, capable people at the top of the Pentagon.
Well, let's begin with the generals.
I've known two one-star generals.
Actually, one of them was a colonel when I served under him.
General Harden was a soldier's general.
It was a one-star.
Absolutely unpolitically correct.
Big respect for the man.
I don't know if he's still alive or not.
And General Griffin, who was Colonel Griffin, who started his career as a Marine, as he put it, suppressing peasant uprisings in Latin America because U.S. corporations were just, it wasn't these people were Marxists.
It's that these people were just driven to extreme levels of poverty by corporations that were stealing their land because they owned the government and so on.
And then take up arms and then they say, you know, and then we get called in to crush them.
Just regular people that, you know, they've been driven to this level.
And General Griffin, God rest his soul, passed, or as we say in Russian, Pristaios Sekuborgu, presented himself to God back in December of last year.
It's almost a year ago.
Other than that, I've met several, obviously, generals.
And this is back in the 90s and early 2000s.
And I had very low opinions of most of them.
And it's not gotten better.
You know, it's an anti-filtration system.
Anti-in that it's anti-talent.
Well, it's anti-military talent.
Let me rephrase it.
There's a talent.
There's a talent for kissing ours and doing other things that I guess if kids are watching the show, we shall not mention.
But, you know, turn on porn hub and you can witness what that other stuff is pretty easily.
Because, you know, all these guys are out for the big bucks after they get out.
And I will tell you, the biggest prize of all for any officer, senior officer like that, is to get into the Pentagon's procurement program.
Because, baby, you are going to earn.
Unless things have changed, you know, there has not been any restrictions on officers in the Pentagon not going to work for the people they worked with.
Would you say most companies?
Procurement is obtaining the weapons or signing the contracts, and they all do it with either companies with which they're connected, or they're getting kickbacks for doing it to certain companies.
Or when they leave, they get it.
They don't have to get, you know, they don't, the politicians will get the kickbacks.
The military, most of the time, they won't get the kickbacks directly.
They're getting indirect kickbacks.
In other words, these lobbyists, most of whom are at the Pentagon, most of whom are former military themselves, are going, hey, Colonel, or hey, general.
So you're still pretty young.
Have you planned the rest of your career?
You know, because you can retire at 20, right?
So you've got to figure, if you're an officer and you didn't have prior service, so okay, so you're 22, you're 23, you're a junior lieutenant, a second lieutenant.
20 years, it's 42, 43 years old.
And if you have prior service, it came in at 18, you know, so 38, and you could technically be retired.
You go retire and collect your retirement.
Half the salary of the last position you held for three years or more.
So if you're a lieutenant colonel, you're getting a major's salary, basically.
And hey, would you like to earn more?
So of course you're going to be friendly toward that company because when you leave at about two in a month or two months, you're coming back with their company pin on your lapel and you're going right back to your buddies now.
Because by the way, by the way, most of Congress does the same thing.
When they leave, they just become lobbyists or think tank.
If you're a general and you're a think tanker, you could be like Any of these talking head morons that go out there on CNN or Fox or whatever, and just, I don't know if they're spouting their own crap or they're reading a text that they're given.
I'm hoping they're reading a text because if they're really that bad and then they're spouting what they know and they're really that bad, oh, things are lost.
This beyond loss at that point.
Now, Russian industry, first of all, let's understand something here.
How GDP is calculated.
GDP used to be calculated basically on goods produced.
But when the U.S. helped change that, because when U.S. started producing goods outside the U.S., so GDP doesn't take a nosedive, they started counting everything in GDP.
And just as an interesting thing, before the Glass Steel Act was annulled by Clinton, the financial sector in the U.S. was about 6%, right?
So you had the investment banks and you had the regular mom and pop or a regional bank chain that was in your town that you got your house loan from or your business loan, et cetera.
And they didn't mix.
And it was done that way after the 1929 crash because there wasn't a law like that.
And that led to the crash.
So Clinton annuls the Glass Steel Act and the financial sector takes off.
And the financial sector in the U.S. is now about 40% of GDP.
What do they produce?
They destroy industry.
I mean, they literally, that's their job, is to destroy industry.
Because when you're in big finance, you're not looking at, okay, let me give you a loan, invest in your company, and in 10 years you'll be able to pay me off because you'll be profitable, blah, blah.
No, no, no.
They're looking at, hey, I got a bonus coming up in half a year or a quarterly bonus.
I need to show profits.
What's the best way to do profits?
Sell something.
We buy something in distress or not in distress and put it in distress by playing the market on it.
And then we buy it, we rate it, and we drop it up into pieces, and then we start selling mass layoffs, etc.
We're saying, well, look, we got cash.
I'll get my bonus.
And I don't give a damn after that.
And that's big finance in a nutshell, except now it's doing it worldwide.
Russia, you know, back, first of all, a lot of the Russian heavy industry never left.
A lot of it was worn down, that's true.
But the mass investments seriously started rolling in to various companies around 2008, 2009.
I mean, seriously started rolling in.
I remember Urochimash, which is this manufacturer and machining manufacturing company.
Just understand the main, the main shop, Rachimash is one of those factories, the giant location in Eutherinburg.
It was one of those factories that was relocated in 1941.
And by relocated, I mean they packed up all the equipment, they shipped it to the east of the Urals, they poured a foundation, they ran the power lines, and people started working under the open sky.
And people by mean women, children under 14, 15, under 15 years old, old men.
Everybody else was either directly supplying the military or in the military.
And then eventually they put up walls and roofs.
So under the snow, you know, you have 14 or 13-year-olds working 12-hour shifts because the war is on, and it's a war where Europe has come to exterminate us.
And we're not going to go down.
So that's the mentality.
That is the Russian mentality right there.
We're not going to go down.
So the main shop for there were several buildings, but the biggest one was 20,000 square feet.
I'm sorry, 20,000 square meters.
So 200,000 square feet.
And it's a gigantic location.
And the first time I went there, and it just looked like crap.
The floor was the cement floor was cracked.
The windows were broken.
The equipment was ancient and badly maintained.
I'm looking around, like, nah, I've got no interest here because these guys would never pass our inspection.
I would never get to sampling anything because they at the moment the inspectors came in there to do the audit.
And then about two years later, they started calling.
Come in, come in, you know, come take a look.
Come in.
I'm like, I've been there already.
What the hell?
Nothing's changed in two years.
No, come in, come in, come in.
That was in a neighboring plant, neighboring company.
Like, okay, I looked at my metallurgist about 15 years older than me.
I'm like, okay, let's go take a look.
Put a little check mark and they'll leave us the hell alone.
We walked into basically a brand new building.
Brand new floor, windows were all in place.
I mean, this is three stories high, right?
Or four-story windows, open space, because you're putting oil rigs together in some of those areas for manufacturing.
Then they take them apart and ship them.
Ground oil rigs, not marine oil rigs.
Just don't understand.
They're a lot smaller.
You know, just beautiful new equipment.
Like, what the hell?
And what happened was Gazprom Bank had bought them out, fully renovated them.
And they've been doing this company after company coming in.
They're not the only ones.
And then they sell them, right?
They do, they flip them, basically.
And then they sell the company to whoever wants to invest.
And that was picking up speed like crazy since about 2008, 2009.
This is before substitution for imports ever got going.
And substitution for imports worked also.
It didn't work as great until the SMO started, but it had results.
Additionally, Russian, when they say Russia's 2% of GDP, that's crack, world GDP, that's crack.
First of all, a lot of that, the rest of that world GDP that gets counted is financial services, things like that.
It's not manufacturing.
Just to begin with that.
I mean, if you took away, if you were only counting what America was actually producing, not even with PPP, America would have less than half the GDP numbers it has right now.
You know, agriculture, wood, manufacturing.
If that's all you count, I mean, that America would drop heavily.
If you look at PPP, China is already a third larger than the U.S., purchased power parity.
So U.S. is ready in second place.
Russia's in fourth place.
But Russia is a full service economy.
And what that means is Russia can start from zero, the raw resources, and end with a high-tech product.
Trains, combines, tractors, doesn't really do light automobiles.
That's something that hasn't really been a bad point since, well, there were two companies in Azar's times that were making Russian automobiles, but after that, it was after Soviets, it's just, I don't know.
The Soviets were copying other people's models, and then it was just, it's still the same.
But tanks, trains, space stations, Russia just launched two airliners.
The first one, the second unit has been built.
100% Russian-made, Russian turbine engines.
In fact, for a while, the Russian industry was collapsed because under Obama, the U.S. Hold up one second.
We're going to see if he comes back.
Robert, you're still alive?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, I think you definitely definitely froze.
And we're going to see how long he takes okay.
There we go.
So you froze up there for about 20 seconds.
So Russian airplane production stopped for about three years.
But in that three years, Russia built a huge manufacturing facility for composite wing material.
So now it instantly became, by the way, the biggest competitor to the U.S. whose technology are they using?
Is this Russian technology or are they borrowing Chinese technology?
Oh, no, most of this is Russian technology.
Just to understand, until the SMO started, Boeing was designed in Russia.
Moscow had a SMO military operation.
Right, right.
Boeing had an engineering office in Moscow with over 700 engineers.
You'd be surprised.
I mean, Yandik's search engines predated Google, Google Catcher Copy, there were lots of lawsuits going back and forth for that patent rights.
And lots of us, I mean, I took part in technology acquisitions as part of Halliburton, buying from firms here in Russia.
The problem is, is Russians are great at manufacturing.
Russians are great at coming up with new stuff.
Russians suck at selling, just flat out.
Just suck at selling.
They don't understand selling.
I'm not talking, you know, in the market selling you tomatoes.
I'm talking about big picket items, things like that.
They don't.
I mean, you got to beg the salesman at an automobile salon to come sell something to you.
He's on salary, by the way.
So he doesn't give a damn.
So, you know, okay, I can live without commission.
Russians suck at selling.
That's just, but they're great at everything else.
And because of that, a lot of these companies really didn't know what they had on their hands.
They didn't do market research.
So we were buying stuff.
I mean, we were giving them the Russian market, but we're buying and moving oilfield equipment over to the U.S., putting a U.S. made in U.S. stamp on it, but it's all Russian.
And they were just sucking up technology left and right.
And the Japanese did that too, by the way.
There was one senior engineer that committed suicide because he couldn't stand the lies anymore because Samsung was just buying up everything that was in Russia and claiming that they were developing it post-Soviet Union.
So there's a lot of RD that's done in Russia.
Russia produces more engineers than any other country in the world.
Some of those may be questionable quality, but still, well, I mean, look at U.S. schools these days.
Most of these engineers are you take away the calculator from them and they look blank at you.
And I know that from experience because I was a professor's assistant teaching programming.
They pull out calculators to do basic math.
Seriously?
And NC State is not a weak university.
So yeah, so Russia, Russia, and then there's this other effect.
Russia was always, because they don't know, or they didn't know the market value of what they had, since the 1990s, Russian assets have always been low-balled on value, which allowed Western companies to come in and buy them up for cheap because these companies don't know their actual market value.
So the Russian GDP is actually a lot higher than 2%.
It's just been low-balled year after year by Western companies.
And they had their own profit margin, obviously, and a reason to do it.
But the Russian companies were guilty of being ignorant of what their actual market value is.
They should have been researching it.
They weren't.
It's gotten better, more experienced people, but I think still that still is an issue.
So that's why Russia can now produce the entire West.
And what I'm saying now produce the entire West.
I mean, day one, Russia was producing about 100 new tanks a year.
It's up to about a thousand new tanks a year.
And plus, it's refurbishing old tanks with new technologies.
Armored personnel carriers, fighter jets, mobile artillery, and so on and so on.
And if you look at it technology-wise, Russia's fielded a just, I'm just talking, gonna talk military.
I'm not talking just civilian side.
There's lots of civilian side too.
Let's not forget, Russia made the first vaccine for Ebola.
Russia made the first non-death vaccine for COVID, which I've had COVID at least two times.
I know of that.
So, you know, yeah, whatever.
Even if the vaccine did nothing, that would be better than what the vaccine, the JJ, and the Pfizer one did here.
They did more than nothing.
They did, in my humble opinion.
Is that an issue we can talk to?
So the video doesn't get taken.
We're not going to be able to do that.
I did a video with Adrian McCree, who was a councilman in Western Australia.
He's a self-made millionaire, came from a poor farming family.
They had to shoot 10,000 heads of sheep because the government took the floor out from the sheep market, the wool market, and then paid people to kill their sheep so that the farmers wouldn't go totally bankrupt.
So he said, you know, his dad couldn't do it as a third-generation farm, and he and his brother wound up shooting 10,000 sheep.
He said, talking about all the farmers who are committing suicide from depression, but he's a self-made millionaire and he became, he got infamous in Australia because he was a voting observer in Russia during Putin's re-election.
He was just here on business.
Nobody paid him for it.
And he just volunteered.
And it was an interesting point because he said, you know, after all everything was done, I don't know, it was like 17,000 volunteers all over Russia.
He and some of the foreign volunteers that were at this meeting, there was a government meeting, and they just did reports on all the things they were.
Sorry, one second.
Incoming call.
No, no, worse.
Uh, alarm.
I'm not sure why I said the alarm for that time, but apparently I did and forgot about it.
Oh, my apologies.
Um, so yeah, he said, you know, he had several politicians come up there, Russian politicians afterwards, shake his hand and said, You're so brave for doing this.
We wish you the best of luck.
He said, I didn't know what the hell they're talking about.
Why am I brave?
I just watched an election.
He said, and I watched the first interview he had because he became city councilman, Australia's main port, industrial port in Northwestern Australia, the state of Northwestern Australia.
And he said, you know, and he got on the telly and they asked him, so you've been there, so you saw all the corruption.
Oh, yeah, what corruption?
There are better elections than we handle.
So they just showed you what they wanted.
No, I went wherever I wanted to.
I said, you know, I went into one voting booth area and said, hey, can I also count?
Sure, here you go.
Start counting.
So go, you're Putin's puppet.
And they just went into him, right?
So he became enemy number one.
But it got worse.
The last time he was in Russia, I was talking with him.
It was about a year, year ago.
He and his fellow councilman, they pushed through a ban for Western Australia on the death shots.
Well, Australia is 90% vaccinated.
And he's very deep into all this.
He's like, this is a catastrophe.
The die-off, particularly among young people, is insane.
His company built one of the local mortuaries, a giant new morgue.
And he said he went to talk to the guy, the owner, said, Look, you've got a morgue in your mortuary.
Why did you need this big new morph?
And he still told him, You don't understand.
We used to bury a person every couple of days.
We're burying three, four people a day now.
It's just a call, calling of the population, and it's an accelerate, which may be one of the reasons the West is so hell-bent on trying to murder Russia.
Because if they don't do it now, they're not going to have an opportunity to do it later because they're killing off their own population.
So basically, all the stories in the West that we see that the Russian economy is struggling, there's gas lines out there, that it's an oil-dependent economy, it's a country with a gas station, it's all of that.
Russia can feed itself, Russia can fuel itself, Russia can defend itself, and increasingly they can do all three better than much of the Western world.
And since the SA working-class wages in Russia, after you factor in inflation, which they've had little spikes of, after you real wages, posted is three, four, five, six times higher in the rate of increase than it's been in the Western world, Western Europe and the United States.
So, is all this stuff about the Russian economy collapsing and sanctioning?
Is it all just a bunch of garbage?
There are sectors that are doing better than other sectors, like in any economy, partially because the interest rates went too high, in my opinion, from the central bank.
I don't believe in central banks myself.
So, that's my personal view.
You know, everything they do should be done by the Ministry of Finance.
But, okay, we have a central bank.
Most countries these days do.
They overdid it on the interest rates.
So, they're backing off now.
The agriculture market has been booming ever since 2014 because there's a lot of industry went into that.
Russia is the biggest wheat exporter in the world.
Russia produces twice as much wheat as the U.S. Actually, even more.
Russia is now a net exporter of rice.
Russia, oh, by the way, thank you, Mr. Trump, for the tariff war that you started in 2017 with China because Russia is next door.
I mean, this is how fast Russia reacted to that.
Russia sells soybeans to China, not nearly as much as Brazil, other places, because the climate near there is different for soybeans in eastern Siberia, which, by the way, there's you can grow a lot in eastern Siberia.
It's not frozen over.
You got to go pretty far north before it's frozen.
Western Siberia, the Western Siberian plain, it gets plus 40 degrees.
Okay, so in Fahrenheit, that's like 104 during the summer.
They have a long summer, they have a long winter, and a very short spring and fall.
You just kind of today, it's summer, tomorrow's winter.
You got a two-week transition period, but it's extremely fertile land and it's very wet and hot during the summer.
So, they grow, it just is another breadbasket area.
Again, people think most of Russia is frozen.
No, I mean, Moscow gets up in the upper 90s or mid-90s during the summer.
Summer dependent, man.
This summer sucks, but with two months of rain and a month of really hot temperatures.
And the growing season's gotten really much wider.
I mean, okay, it's what, 7th of November right now.
Outside, today it was plus 10 Celsius, not Fahrenheit, Celsius.
So that's, let's see, 18, that's 50 degrees.
Previously, even 10 years ago, it would have been snowing by now.
It'd been a good snow cover.
So Russia is very, is very well off when it gets warmer for obvious reasons.
And southern Russia is, you know, southern Russia.
And southern Russia is a huge territory.
That's equivalent to South Carolina, northern Georgia, North Carolina, that kind of climate.
When you get down to Crimea, Krasnodovsky Krai, not Lugansk, further south, Zaporozhia.
Those areas are like central Georgia.
They will occasionally freeze because occasionally they will get a very hard storm.
But most of the time, you know, even in winter, so it's rain and it's crappy weather, but it's not freezing.
And that's, by the way, the fastest population growth area in Russia.
For obvious reasons, people move in.
So yeah, Russia can do all of this.
And it's got black soil.
I mean, you stick a stick in there and it'll grow you a tree.
You spit in there and something will grow up on it.
You go through it when the rains come and you will leave your entire car behind, your boots, your socks, and probably your legs.
It's that kind of soil.
In fact, the Germans, the Wehrmacht, when they were fighting us in the Great Patriarch War, the trucks would come in with supplies and they would drive out black soil.
So they're stealing the soil.
Literally, they're stealing the soil from the country.
There wasn't anything they wouldn't steal at that point.
So yeah, Russia built two big industrial size pig factories or pig farms on the Chinese border.
They went up instantly.
Russia is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, dairy supplier to China.
It's the third largest dairy producer in the world and growing.
So the biggest lacking in Russia, unbelievably as it is, is fish.
Fish is expensive because Russia was late to getting into fish farming.
So eventually prices will drop.
But fish is expensive.
Consider how many shorelines we have and lakes and rivers.
But yeah, fish literally costs more than pork, which, you know, hard to explain, but that's the reality of it.
Eggs, everything like that.
And by the way, you live in a village.
So outside of a big city, you live in a village.
You can own somebody, I think, like 10 chickens and a cow before you're considered a business.
My neighborhood, everybody signed a pact that we were not going to have any chickens and everything running around because it's an actual built-up neighborhood.
But gardens, everybody's got gardens, greenhouses.
That's how Russia didn't starve in the 90s.
People just went out to their little country house.
And that may be just a shack for most of them.
It wasn't a mansion.
It was just a shack.
But they were living out there and farming.
So Russia produces a huge amount of food and it's only growing.
And by the way, we need farmers.
We need welders.
We need carpenters.
We need construction workers, actual experienced construction workers, not the cheap labor from Central Asia.
We need engineers because the economy is growing and it is.
As far as fuel, okay, to bust a few more myths, Russia, if I remember my statistics, the energy sector in Russia, and that's everything.
It's 19% in the U.S. Not that big of a difference.
just for people to understand um the uh the revenues previously the revenues were mostly coming from uh oil and gas companies paying taxes so that was actually a pretty large chunk of the revenues for the government not the economy but for the government itself uh I think it's down to like 20% right now.
And it's being lowered on purpose.
So they're diversifying where they're getting the tax money from.
So they're not depending on one sector.
So they know the issues.
But you know, that's the thing, too, is with oil and gas, things like that, is you can switch partners very quickly.
But the thing is, is why Europe is so screwed?
We weren't just supplying them oil and gas.
That's what all they talk about.
We were supplying them with everything.
Food, paper.
I mean, Russia was supplying them these giant rolls of raw paper, right, to Germany.
And then German companies were producing cardboard, office paper, all that, reselling it to Russia.
Well, when the Germans sanctioned Russian paper, which by the way, they ran out of toilet paper in Germany for a while because they didn't have cheap paper anymore to make it out of.
They screwed themselves.
Well, you know, I had a friend of mine who was an IT director at the company that was producing the biggest company I was producing the raw paper and importing cardboard and all that.
What did they do?
Over two years, they set up four manufacturing plants for cardboard.
They produce 80% of Russia's cardboard now.
The Germans will never have that market back again.
It's gone.
And this is niche after niche after niche after niche.
That very quick reaction.
And it was just that, that's it.
Russia reindustrialized sector after sector.
Because, you know, when it's easier just to buy, because that's what you've been doing, you know, you don't want to move your arse and actually do something extra.
But when you have no choice, in the Orthodox Church, the church teaches God sends you enemies to get you to do the things you should have been doing anyways.
So there you go.
We should have been doing this anyways, but nobody wanted to do the extra body movements and work, and now you have to.
So we did.
So yeah, Russian economy is not collapsing.
Right, exactly.
And in the same vein, on the military side of the aisle, I recently had a discussion with a high-ranking member of the administration, let's say.
And he said, Robert, I know you think I'm crazy, but I just think all the Russians are really good at is all the bombing and taking out infrastructure, but it's just a stalemate.
They can't progress on the battlefield.
And to me, my perception was this is a battle of attrition where despite what the president has been told by the Pentagon, all the casualties are on the Ukrainian side.
Whatever Ukraine says Are Russian casualties are actually Ukrainian casualties?
Whatever casualties Ukraine says, if Ukraine says it's their casualties, that's actually the Russians' low level.
That in fact, the whole point of the battle of kind of confession through projection, that the whole battle of attrition originated by Russian generals.
I mean, could have been around before Stalin lacked them, unfortunately, for the Great War, but that's another story.
But you know, those old school strategies were that this was about Russia preserving and protecting its security and the Russian people in Ukraine that are historically, ancestrally, ethnically Russian people and that had been harassed, harangued, abused, every way known to man for about better part of a decade since 2014 with a Soros-inspired Victoria Newland John McCain coup in 2014.
But the method by which they were doing so was adjusting to the drone warfare realities, but also a battle of attrition in which they were going to destroy the Ukrainian army.
It wasn't about land as the top priority.
It wasn't about accelerating land as the top priority.
It was about destroying the Ukrainian military.
And in that battle of attrition, this has been a very successful war for Russia in the last year, especially, and that Russia is going to win.
Even President Trump and President Orban today were joking in the cabinet saying, you think they can win?
And Orban said, well, maybe a miracle.
And Trump started laughing, recognizing how absurd that really is.
And yet, in between, he's being told, this is Russia, can't advance.
Russia's in a stalemate.
Russia is going to lose.
Can you explain why that is why that high-ranking member of the administration has been misinformed?
Can I do a short attempt at short history of Ukraine?
Because most people are, first of all, Ukraine, Kraina, Ukraina, Kraina.
Krai means edge.
The literal translation of Ukraine into English is hinterland.
Now, how many hinterlands have you known in world history that were actually separate countries?
Zero.
Why?
Because you cannot have a hinterland as a separate country.
Because they're by the very definition of the word, it's the edge of another civilization.
The hinterland in this case was the edge, first of all, is an edge of Russian civilization and civilization of the Polish, Polish-Lithuanian Reich Paspalita Empire, between empires.
So it's not a separate entity.
It's not a separate culture.
But if you go further back, okay, so I'm going to run real quick because the Ukrainian history is just incredible crap that they've rewritten.
All the way back, the majority of the northern Slavic tribes, well, tribes.
They're tribes, but they built cities.
That's what they were called by the Germans and others, the city builders, because every tribe had their own towns and cities.
They weren't in some little villages or nomadic.
So old Lodiga, which is near Novgorod, which is up north.
Old Ladiga was the biggest, most prosperous city in the area.
Well, all these clans were fighting each other, including some Ugrics or Finnish clans.
They're all fighting each other.
They were all suspicious of each other.
So they invited Rudik, who was a Danish Viking.
Well, by the way, northern Germany was Slavic Vikings, Sorbs, that eventually got conquered because they never unified, but they were raiding into the Norse.
So the North were afraid of them.
So that's, I mean, Eastern Germany used to be all Slavic in its own time.
But this guy, he came in, so he had a Sorb wife.
So he's already, his son Igoria was already half Slav.
He and his Druzhina or band, they came in, they were invited in to rule under contract.
That was a common thing, by the way.
You'd invite a prince to rule your city under a contract.
So he was like a hired management.
He may be hereditary hired, but he was a hired manager.
He could actually be fired.
It said, goodbye, pack your shit, and there's the gates.
And don't let them hit you in the arse on the way out.
And that happened.
That actually happened quite a bit.
So he got hired.
And then after he figured out, so he was ruling from old Lodigan.
After he figured out that he wasn't going to get run off, he built Novgorod.
That became the second capital.
A couple of his men, they went down the Volga, raided Byzantine, and on their way back, they decided to stop off in Kiev.
Kiev was a strategic town that was part of the Khazarian Empire.
It was the westernmost vassal of the Hazarian Empire.
The Hazars, the Hazars were a Turkic people whose aristocracy became Jewish by religion.
The people themselves were all mixed, Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Jews, pagans, whatever.
But they had a pretty big empire at that point.
So they became, they grabbed power there.
And then when Ruderik died, his sword brother, he may have been related, you can't tell, Alieg, he became the foster father to Igor.
And then on a raid down toward Byzantine, down the Dnieper, they stopped off at Kiev, butchered the two guys that took over power, and decided to move the capital there.
It was a better place for trade and raiding.
So that's the third capital.
And from there, you start getting people moving in.
So Igor got killed.
His son, Sviatoslav, they're all pagans at this point.
Though Igor's wife, Oyga, became Saint Olga.
She got baptized by the Byzantine emperor, who wanted to marry her.
She tricked him into being her godfather.
And then when he wanted to marry her, now that you've been Christian, he's like, well, wait a minute.
You can't marry your children.
So she got out of that one.
Because it's literally considered your child now.
So her son, Sviatoslav the Great, he came in, destroyed the Khazarian Empire, and then conquered Bulgaria, and then decided to settle in Bulgaria.
And then he got kicked out by the Greeks out of Bulgaria.
It got killed on the way back.
But his sons took over.
So between the three sons, as always happens, we slabs have a bit.
Well, everybody had this, but we had it for longer and most.
We have a tendency of dividing all the land holdings between all the sons, which is never good because it just sparks the next round of fighting between, well, they were all getting it.
Well, his youngest son, Vladimir, the Red Son, he was born in Novgorod, up north.
He came down and crushed.
Well, one of his brothers was killed, but another brother, and he came down and crushed the oldest brother and took Kiev as his capital.
And then he formed a government and then he became baptized.
He was a pagan.
He became baptized, released his 700 wives, concubines, and then married the sister of the emperor of Byzantine.
Then his three sons started fighting it out when he died.
And Yaroslav Mudry, Yaroslav the Wise, he came down from, again, Novgorod, and again conquered Kiev and again settled and brought in, and they would bring in all these settlers from up north to settle the southern areas.
The very southern part of what today is Ukraine or now eastern Western Russia was stepped, was empty, nomads running back and forth, constant fighting.
And then when the Mongols came through, everything collapsed.
Now, Russia was divided.
Russia is huge.
Kiev was almost the southernmost area.
There's maybe 100 kilometers south.
And then that was it.
And everything else spread northeast.
So Moscow was built later, about the 1200s, but Ladymir, other cities were in that direction.
Well, Andrei Bogolyubsky, he decided he all these there were four Rurik families from Rurik, and they were all fighting for power constantly.
So you had, it was Russia, but you had internal civil wars constantly going on because everybody wants to sit on the throne.
It would be a separate lecture to explain how this whole uncles before sons before brothers system worked.
It was somewhat asinine and it produced a lot of civil wars.
But needless to say, when he conquered Kiev, he refused to sit the throne in Kiev because he built his new city of Ladymir, which is east of Moscow, about 250 kilometers east of Moscow.
So he sent his younger brother as a vassal to sit Kiev and he moved the capital to Vladimir.
So already there were two, the main capital was now Vladimir, so it wasn't Kiev anymore.
Kiev was a minor capital south that was falling.
And then when the Mongols came through, everything got screwed up.
And then all these separate principalities wound up that half of them got engulfed by the Lithuanians, that then got engulfed by the Poles.
And then Moscow started reunifying everybody around it and steadily expanding and reunifying all the Russian lands, which took about 400 years to do fully.
So that's the history.
So Kiev, Kiev was taken back.
Kiev was a minor town.
After the Mongols, there were like 300 families left in Kiev.
Before that, it was like about 200,000, a quarter of a million people living there.
And the Metropolitan of Russia, before he became a patriarch, moved from Kiev to Vladimir and then from Vladimir to Moscow.
And then he became a patriarch as a separate patriarch in the Orthodox Church, a separate canonical church.
So Kiev was always part of that canonical church, the Russian canonical church, which they're trying to rewrite right now or rewriting right now in Kiev.
So Kiev was bought, was conquered, and then bought.
We have this tendency where we conquer chunks from whoever's fighting us and then we just pay them.
No, no hard feelings here.
We'll give you money for it.
So Kiev was actually bought back.
And Kiev became, was rebuilt and became basically the third or the second city in Russia.
And then when St. Petersburg was built, Kiev was the third city in Russia because St. Petersburg is the main capital and Moscow was the old former capital and then Kiev.
Well, fast forward, so you had Novorussia, new Russia, which is eastern Russia.
Crimea was part of, that was a governorship, this huge territory.
Crimea was part of the Kuban-Kazakh governorship, which was next down south, which is the Kuban lands, which is Krasnodovsky Krai, Stavropoji Krai.
And then you had Malarussia, Little Russia, which was Kiev and those territories just to the west of it.
Well, fast forward a little further, World War I revolution.
So you had Ukrainians were basically created as a nationality by the Austro-Hungarians.
And it wasn't to the Malorussians, they were doing it to the Carpathian Russians.
So the Carpathian Mountains, the Eastern Carpathian Mountains, are populated by the Carpathian Rus, which try telling them they're not Russians, they'll beat the crap out of you.
We had a couple families in our church in Raleigh and some immigrants from Moscow.
It was a church holiday, and they were just walking by angry as hell.
I'm like, guys, what happened?
Fricking Moscow guide over there told us we weren't Russian.
The only reason I didn't beat the crap out of them is because they were on church land.
It would have been a hell of a sin.
But they're very touchy about it.
Well, they wanted to break away from the Austro-Hungarian Empire and join the Russian Empire.
So the Austro-Hungarians in the 1880s set up two concentration camps and started re-educating them, forcing them into Catholicism, making a new culture for them.
A lot of people died in those two camps that refused to change.
So then you get these Ukrainians.
They went to the Kaiser during World War I said, hey, give us prisoners of war from these western provinces of Russia, not from the towns, but from the villages, because they'll be low-educated, not officers or NCOs, because those can read and write and they're well-educated, but the uneducated.
And we'll explain to them that they're not really Russians.
They're this humiliated repressed nationality called Ukrainians.
And for the Kaiser, yeah, that's great.
So Russians will be fighting Russians.
Worked for me.
So you got that.
And when the Russian Civil War broke out, you got Petlura and his 40,000, basically proto-Nazis running around and grabbing power.
So the territory that became Ukraine, Kiev changed governments like 18 times in three years, just to understand a lot of chaos between Russian whites, between the Reds, between the Peklura ultra-nationalists, and so on.
But the Soviet Union, so the Lenin combined Malarusia with Nova Russia and forced them into this Ukraine.
By the way, it worked really well in the future for Stalin when the UN was created because the Soviet Union had two seats in the UN because Ukraine was listed as a separate seat.
Unbelievable, but somehow they got that pushed through.
But this is before World War II.
So what happened next is Ukrainization.
And all you have to do in Russian, of course, because you can't get it if you write it in English letters, go to Google or go to Yondex and type in there Ukrainization 1929 to 1924, 1928, and look at images.
And it will pop up tons of these articles from newspapers have been scanned from the 1920s, early 1930s.
And you were no longer because the Soviet Union needed to break up the Russian population because divide and conquer, divide and rule.
So they created Belarusians as a separate entity.
They're all brotherly races, but they're still separate.
They're not.
It's the same people.
Genetically, it's the same people.
Culture is the same people.
So they started Ukrainization, forcing people to learn Ukrainian, which was basically a village dialect at that point, versus everybody in the city spoke Russian.
And you see tons of these articles on there scanned.
So you don't have to look for it.
It's right there under your nose.
And it's the people, nobody was allowed to be in management, either on the government level or any of the government companies, unless you spoke Ukrainian.
So at one point, they had riots in Kiev because the Kiev is like, what the hell is a Ukrainian?
We're Russians.
We speak Russian.
And now we're being forced to learn something else, the village dialect.
You had problems with getting management.
So there were a lot of problems with that.
But Stalin stopped it in 1936 because they figured out, oh, crap, we've just created ultra-nationalists by doing this that are now against us.
So, okay, we've gone too far.
And that worked very badly for the Soviet Union because those ultra-nationalists then became Bandera and his bunch, the UNAUNZ, who massacred, oh, they killed about a million plus people.
You got the massacres like in Kiev, for example, of the Jews in, that was, let's see, Babinyar, Babayara.
The Germans organized that the muscle was all Ukrainian nationalists and the shooting squads and the bayoneting squads were all Ukrainian nationalists.
And they formed one SS division, Galicia, that got its teeth beaten in and the one battle it had with the Red Army.
So they moved them because they weren't good enough for soldiers, but they were great for concentration camp guards because those people don't fight back.
And they were sadistic as hell.
So that was really great for concentration camp guards.
So this is how you got it.
And then at the end of the war, so to a degree, there was still partisan fighting up into the 50s, these bands of Banderites and some German SS, former SS that were in these bands.
They were killing Western Ukrainian civilians, anybody that cooperated with the central government.
They were murdering, raping, but they eventually got wiped out or sent to the camps in the early 50s and the late 40s.
Well, the Gulags were never death camps.
Some of them were extremely horrible situations.
Other gulags were university campuses.
By the way, Sukhoi, MiG, they were all gulags at university campuses.
Solzhenitsyn, by the way, spent his time in a gulag in a university campus.
So they varied incredibly.
But first and foremost, they were labor camps.
They were there to do labor, not to kill people.
They had about 4 million people die in the process.
A lot of them died because everybody went there.
Political prisoners and murderers and thugs and rapists also went to same camps.
So you had issues.
But that's a whole separate point.
Well, all these Benderites went to the camps.
And Khrushchev, who's a Ukrainian, let them out.
So what they did, they got smart.
I'll give them that.
They got smart.
They all went back to their villages and became perfect communists and joined the Communist Party and worked their way up into leadership.
But they never stopped being Nazis, right?
But they started destroying the system from within.
And it worked.
What can you say?
It worked.
And then you get what you get now.
So that's the brief history of all this.
Now, Ukraine, if you look at it, it was pretty much a split 50-50.
As a matter of fact, when the Banderites started their little Newland-sponsored coup, there was a big question whether they're going to succeed or not.
And it came out later that they were prepared to go to Western Ukraine and secede from Eastern Ukraine if they lost that match with Yanukovych.
But Yanukovych turned out to be spineless, and they overthrew him and they grabbed power.
I mean, honestly, if I was in his place, I would have surrounded Maitan Square with special forces and just put them all down.
Put them like rabbit dogs.
But, you know, I'm bloodthirsty.
So, but, you know, if you come to power and you're not willing to spill blood, don't come to power because things are going to much worse.
Because Yanukovych wasn't willing to spill that blood, and he had his police standing there getting killed.
Now there's been over one and a half, The leaked documents were showing about 1.7 million dead Ukrainians and NATO mercs as of three months ago.
So you can say about 1.8 million.
There's about 400,000 that are missing.
Pigs, dogs, rats, crows.
I mean, I've seen a friend of mine took a photograph of a dead rat that was almost the length of an AK 47, not counting the tail.
I mean, the rat was just freaking big.
I mean, they were eating, they're eating big.
And the pigs, the feral pigs running around, the crows, the feral dogs.
Yeah, the Ukrainians, they dropped the bodies.
They don't want their bodies back.
I did a report from Bryansk.
Luckily, we didn't get a high mars on our heads.
They had four of the refrigeration trucks with 2,212 bodies or remains.
I don't say bodies for total.
Ukrainians wouldn't take them back.
They didn't want to admit them.
This is just a small portion of the 70,000 that were killed in Kursk.
And there was a train with another 10,000.
And these were the identified ones, right?
And man, the smell is even when they're closed and it's minus 11 degrees Celsius in those trucks, the smell is still coming out.
You never get used to smell.
If you've ever smelled corpses, rotting corpses, rotting meat, you never get used to that smell.
It coats your mouth, it coats your nose.
I mean, you breathe, and then they opened them off, by the way, to show everybody they were there.
I didn't have a nose plug, and a lot of the other guys, the civilians, saying to those plugs, but you're breathing through your mouth, trying not to dampen it, but it'll coach your throat, it'll coach your tongue.
It's just, it's viscous.
It's not just an odor.
It's just this viscous thing.
And that many corpses, yeah, that's something.
They eventually, on the third try, took those bodies back with the written agreement from the families that they would bury them themselves and they gave up all the rights to get any compensation or any payouts from the government.
That's a scum setting in here.
Exactly.
Two components of the last question.
I think we're keeping you past midnight, the Moscow town.
But one is, while the Ukrainian casualties are in the millions and climbing, the Russian casualties appear to me by any independent confirmation to be far, far less, not the millions that Trump is talking about.
Can you confirm that aspect?
And then related to it, I've tried to explain to some people in DC who I simply think do not, I don't think we have anybody in our entire government that understands the Russian mindset and the Russian people.
And I think that's a very dangerous position.
Even if somebody out there is anti-Russian, okay, fine.
For strategic empathy, you have to understand your perceived adversary if you perceive him as such.
That the Russian bear, you can poke, you can poke, you can poke, and it might do nothing, might groan a little, might not do it.
But at some point, it will just lash out and eat you.
We all know people that have a slow fuse, but when they burn, they burn big and they burn bright.
And I see a lot of people in the West.
We got the Brits and the French today talking about sending NATO troops directly, overtly, openly, publicly into Ukraine.
We've got people telling the president on a daily basis, oh, send in the long-range strikes, hit Moscow, hit other places, put a little nuclear submarine on the eastern coast.
The Russians won't do anything.
Putin is weak.
He's all talking, no action.
And this is extremely dangerous, dangerous talk because they don't understand that when Russia explodes, it will explode and nobody's going to like the consequence.
Can you explain that mindset as well?
Yeah, first of all, and here's the difference between them.
Western generals and the Russian generals.
The Russian generals were also grown up, like all the Western generals, in the concept of big maneuver warfare.
Everybody grew up on that post-World War II.
That's because World War II was big maneuver warfare, first and foremost.
They retooled to the reality right now because of drones.
I mean, tanks are still on the battlefield, but they're used as direct fire infantry support weapons.
So you tank will pop up into a hold down position on your side, and you've got some enemy position over there, and they just pop out 30 rounds of high explosive against a position, drive away, reload, pop back in, pop out, and drive away again.
They don't do the tank charges as much anymore because of drones.
That's temporary, by the way.
Anti-drone systems are advancing very, very quickly.
Laser systems, radio guidance systems, a lot of different systems are coming out.
So it's a continuous cycle.
We're talking about the small, I won't call them recreational drones.
We're not talking about big drone planes.
We're talking about those small drones that they chase like the first person view, MPV drones.
Because they can carry anti-tank rounds.
And what gives them the power is they can hit from above.
They can go straight down.
And there's no armor up top.
There's just steel plate.
Nobody puts, well, nobody used to put armor up top because, you know, except for some javelin-type missiles, most things fire direct at you, not over and above.
And tanks don't go in the cities unless they're supporting infantry.
Just because somebody will pop out a third story window, pop a RPG down on top of your hatch and take you out just because of that.
So tanks and cities don't go charging in.
They're supporting infantry.
They're basically rolling infantry support guns.
So attrition, if you look at what's going on right now, there's a concept called the horns of a dilemma.
That's where you attack the enemy constantly and hit here, hit there, hit here, hit there.
So you're treating the enemy, right?
And the enemy has to figure out what is your real main line of advancement.
Russia has always been much more flexible, Soviet Union before that, on that line of advance, because the U.S. will normally have one key line of advancement and a couple secondary assault positions.
They're done to either hold the enemy in place or to draw enemy attention to them.
But there's one designated main designated.
The Soviet Union has always been, there may be a designated, but it's not an overall designate.
There'll be three, four lines of advancement.
And depending on which one's pushing through at that moment, you flex everything to that one.
And if that one stops because they hit something hard enough, another one starts breaking through, you flex everything to that one.
So it's constant hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit.
It's like death by a thousand cuts, right?
And that's what Ukraine's bled out finally.
The heart stopping.
It's death by a thousand cuts.
They've just opened 300,000 cases of desertion, criminal cases, 300,000.
I mean, that's more than the freaking German army combined, I mean, German military combined, right?
That's just desertion.
And there's 400,000 missing in action.
You might as well combine the French, the Germans, and the British militaries in total to cover the S, the desertions and missing in action from the Ukrainian side.
So you hit, you hit, you hit.
And then the horns of dilemma is when you don't know where the main attack point is, where you need to defend.
And you start flexing left and right.
You're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Then you're robbing Paul to pay Peter and back and forth.
But every time, a couple of those coins are falling through your fingers.
So the sum you've got left is getting smaller and smaller because you lose equipment, you trade equipment when it's on the road march.
You lose people just by accidents and that.
Then they're also getting hit.
as they're marking as they're running between points.
So you're constantly losing people.
Plus, they're getting hit when they're in actual combat.
So if you look at the front right now, everything's moving.
There's two points where they landed north and south of Kherson.
Those aren't major landings, but they were able to grab a lot of territory because there's almost no garrison left in Herson.
It was all flexed up to cover Zaporozhia City because there's a vastity.
Now you've got a question.
Do I defend Zaporozhia City for the vastman there and lose Herson?
Do I rush everybody down to try to knock out these two small areas and growing in Herson and then the risk of losing Zaporozhye City?
Then you got Gulaipolya, which is now becoming a big encirclement.
In fact, Uspianovk was taken and that was a major defensive fortified village town northeast of Gulaipos.
It's going into a big encirclement.
Then you've got, and then as you go up everywhere, there's attacks.
Ukraine doesn't have the manpower.
And it's a choice of where do I make my stand, but I can't make my stand everywhere.
And really, I can't make my stand anywhere because I'm being pushed back everywhere because I don't have the troops to stop anything.
Kupinsk is down to 120 buildings to clear, and they're clearing about 30 buildings a day.
Kupinsk is, and Kupinsk is taken.
The Russian government doesn't declare a town or village taken until they've cleared every single building.
But for all effects and purposes, Kupinsk is taken.
They just haven't vacuumed everybody up yet.
Same thing with Pakrovsk.
There's like two streets left in Pakrovska.
It's taken.
It won't be declared taken until those two streets are fully cleared.
But realistically speaking, it's taken.
And so on and so on.
So there's that.
That's attrition warfare.
What happens when attrition warfare starts going tits up for the guy getting attrited?
That's when you start getting the major movements because now you no longer have the power to try to even to stop you.
Russia has, I mean, let's go down the range.
Russia outguns NATO on artillery 7-1 on the Ukrainian front.
gonna say nato because it's not just ukraine never mind how many i mean poland itself has taken 10 000 dead in this war So you're telling me the Polish army isn't fighting?
Of course they're fighting.
They're all mercenaries, but they're fighting.
There's just two weeks ago, there was a lot of Romanians that got killed, got hit by Iskandar on the port of Odessa.
You know, quiet, quiet, their bodies are being got shipped back.
And so on.
They're dead French all over the place.
That's why Macron needs to get in there as fast as possible.
Because if he gets flecked, he can't explain why there's hundreds of dead Frenchmen all up and down Ukraine.
But if he can get a large enough contingent in there and they start taking many casualties, he can just sweep those other casualties under the same carpet.
And then he doesn't have to explain anything.
You're dealing with that kind of level of sociopathic leadership in these Western countries.
So that's part of it.
That's part of attrition warfare.
But there's another level of attrition warfare.
It's the socio-economic political attrition warfare internally and externally.
One of the reasons this has gone so slow.
Now, you've got to remember, Russia's military is 1.5 million about right now.
There's 300,000 troops.
They are not directly taking part in Ukraine.
They're sitting near the Ukrainian borders.
They rotate units in and out.
The Ukrainian side has been fighting for three and a half years, if they're still alive at that point.
These guys literally have been there three, four years on the front lines, and they're cracked.
Russia rotates units.
Three, four months, they rotate them back, RR, put the next unit in, get them experienced and experienced up.
That's the difference right there.
Casualty rates, I can't say directly, but I would say you're looking at about 10 to 1.
Russia outguns.
Russia has basic aviation control.
With the modern glide bombs, you see the J-Dams worked for a little while, the American J-Dams, but they were pretty crappy made guidance systems.
So the Russian engineers figured out pretty quickly how to jam them.
What they'll do is they'll put fake coordinates in, so it keeps covering itself in circles till it loses altitude, or it gives it wrong altitude data showing that it's much higher than it's supposed to be.
So it starts lowering itself and just runs into the ground somewhere.
The Russian FOBs, on the other hand, have proven very hard to jam.
And the new FOBS with a small jet engine, which basically turns them into a cheap cruise missile, they can go 200 kilometers.
If you're hitting something within 100 kilometers of the front lines, Russian planes don't even have to get within 100 kilometers of the line of contact anymore.
So they're well outside of any Patriot systems.
The Patriot, and then, you know, I'm going into hypersonics and everything else.
So you get this massive overkill.
Plus, when the Ukrainians are attacking, well, we saw what happened in the great counteroffensive.
Just to understand, the Ukrainians took 120 square kilometers of territory.
Sounds kind of big.
120 square kilometers is 12 kilometers wide, 10 kilometers deep.
It's nothing.
They lost 80,000 dead.
They took one three-street village, three parallel streets that's been destroyed.
It was on low ground, Robotina.
And they fought over that village and they lost about a brigade trying to take that village and trying to hold it afterwards.
And the Russian forces were on the high ground looking down at it.
So they're just artillery striking it left and right.
Then there's Krinki.
By the way, all these missions are being planned by American and British generals.
The Ukrainian generals are the execution portion.
And these guys that are, these American and British generals that are planning this, they're just playing.
It's not the real people.
They're just buying material.
That's the attitude.
I mean, look at Snake Island, for God's sakes.
Ukraine lost, there was a British planning all these attempts at attacking.
They're sending special forces in on helicopters, on fast boats, on sobs.
Oh, geez, they lost about 300, 400 special forces trying to take Snake Island.
Russia eventually evacuated Snake Island when the M777s arrived because they had the range to actually hit that island.
The island's pointless.
There was one basically Coast Guard base that surrendered right off the bat.
That whole thing, they stood to the end and all that was absolute propaganda crap.
They were returned in a prisoner exchange like two months later, all alive and well, because they just surrendered as soon as the Russian ships arrived.
And they did the right thing in their case.
But over that island, Ukraine lost like 300 special forces because the British were just planning these little missions.
Well, they had a mission, just one of these idiotic moments in Krinki.
Krinki is on the Russian side of the Dnieper in Kherson Oblivus.
It's a village that's also about three streets running parallel to the Dnieper River.
There's one perpendicular road in, and it's surrounded by swamps, right?
One road in, one road out.
Well, they dropped a Marine battalion in there because the Russians couldn't get in to clear them out, which is true.
They couldn't.
But the problem is they were within the Russian artillery umbrella.
So in the end of this, they lost almost a brigade of Marines because they keep pumping people in and Russia just keeps hamburging hill.
You know, nothing but artillery strikes.
Sure, come on in.
We'll sink you too.
We'll turn you into Minskmeat.
And that kept up.
The British kept that up all of summer of 23.
And they're sending them to die.
That's the only way to put it.
These guys couldn't break out.
Russia couldn't break in, but they didn't need to break in because they were within artillery range.
They couldn't break out.
They were just sitting there waiting to die.
And they're just sending them in in waves.
It's like World War I mentality for the British.
Kursk was U.S. generals.
And they should have cut and ran a long time ago.
They stood and fought to the end, just like everywhere else, and they got wiped out, just like everywhere else.
So you're doing massive overkill.
So 80,000 dead to take 120 square kilometers.
They barely reached the first line, the actual first line of defense.
They were doing screening.
They were barely getting through screening forces, let alone.
And, you know, this is the level of idiocy.
It came out that the Ukrainians were being taught by the Germans on these NATO tactics.
They were asking, look, what happens when we run into a minefield?
Go around it.
Yeah, but that minefield stretches a thousand kilometers.
How are you going to go around?
You got to go through it.
So you got to have the right material, the right equipment, the right air cover, artillery superiority to go through that minefield while you're under fire.
Minefields aren't just there by themselves.
They're covered by, you put a minefield up there.
It's doable to go through it if you have enough time and equipment.
So the point is the minefield slows you down and you cover that minefield, that area with artillery and direct fire weapon systems to destroy the enemy as they're trying to get through that minefield and not get themselves blown up on the mines.
That's the whole point of it.
So yeah, they're taking massive, massive casualties all up and down, and they still are.
So now they're broken.
That's it.
I mean, we're getting to that point where, you know, now you're starting to start to get to see the larger breakthroughs and that are happening.
From the Russian mentality, first of all, for Russia, this is a civil war.
Because to us, those are Russians.
The reason this war is going so slowly is twofold.
One, we're fighting ourselves.
And Russians are anything if not stubborn.
As Napoleon said, it's not enough to shoot the Russian soldier twice.
You've got to go up on the hill and knock him down.
That's how stubborn Russian soldiers are.
You'll be dead.
You know, the whole mentality in the U.S. military and the Western military is do or die.
The Russian mentality is die but do.
It may be a suicide mission, but you goddamn better finish that mission.
You're not allowed to die until you finish that mission.
But you're going to finish that mission.
That's a whole different mentality when it comes to defending the motherland, defending.
And for Russia, this is an existential crisis.
You know, this is, we will fight the nuclear war and beyond.
The problem is we're Orthodox Christians.
And to us, as an Orthodox Christian, the church split between the Catholics and the Orthodox in 1054 AD.
So St. Augustine is a saint for both.
But St. Augustine's righteous war doctrine is a Catholic and Protestant accepted doctrine.
The Orthodox Church never accepted that.
So the Orthodox Church, war is always a sin.
All stop.
Now, not going to war is often a worse sin than going to war because what will happen?
But to an Orthodox soldier, spilling human blood is always a sin.
So after war, you fast, you pray, you go to confession.
to purify yourself from the fact that you've spilled human blood.
It is a sin.
There's no just war.
There's no such concept in Orthodoxy.
So historically speaking, Russians have always been the ones since we become Christian, been the ones trying to talk everybody else out of war.
To the degree of, for example, Peter the Great, as Charles the soon not to be great, was marching toward Poltava into the big trap.
Peter the Great was writing letters to him saying, you know, look, let's stop this idiocy.
We'll go back to the borders we had before and just go live peacefully.
And he was writing constant letters like that, just trying to talk him out of it.
He didn't.
And then Peter the Great wiped him out.
And Sweden stopped being a great power in Europe and became a second-rate power.
But he was Nicholas II, World War II.
One of the reasons Russia was only partially mobilized because he was constantly running around trying to talk everybody off the ledge.
Everybody wanted to jump off the ledge.
It's going to be a glorious two-month war, maybe even a two-week war.
And we'll have great parades.
Russia was constantly trying to talk everybody off the ledge.
Pre-World War II, Stalin had a defensive pact with Czechoslovakia.
He was trying to organize the French and the British to stop Hitler then and stop Czechoslovakia from being cut up.
Poland, by the way, was allied with Hitler and said any Russian troops moving across, we're not going to allow it.
It'll be an act of war.
So Czechoslovakia got chopped up between Hitler, between the Poles, and between the Hungarians.
And then Slovaks became a vassal, a semi-independent vassal state.
So this is constantly something that gets repeated.
And so when it comes to escalation, Russians escalate differently because we're Orthodox.
It's like a spring.
The West will be called salami slices.
The West will just step by step by step by step escalation.
None of these red lines are, by the way, from Moscow's side.
The West was riding its own wetlands.
But what happens with the Russian side is it's like a spring.
You keep pushing down, you keep pushing down, you keep pushing down.
Nobody's canceled the laws of physics.
And sooner or later, you get the Russian escalation.
The Russian escalation, for example, was the one shot of the Areshnik and a lot of hits on NATO staffs and other things that were in Ukraine.
Oh, well, they overreacted.
Well, if the Russians are snap, we warned you, we warned you, we warned you, we warned you.
Oh, are you surprised?
Why are you surprised?
We smacked the crap out of you.
And this is now that we're back again.
Believe me, at this point, the Russian people are past anger, furious, be more like it.
Most Russians are like, yeah, by all means, send every NATO troop you got in Ukraine.
We'll massacre everybody.
We're not going to back off.
Putin is the only thing holding back from things going a hell of a lot worse.
And if the West thinks that they're going to get rid of Putin and they're going to get a Yeltsin, no, no, no, no, no.
You're going to get somebody who's going to just, you know, nuclear war is not beyond the doubt.
And with the Russians, you don't even need nuclear war.
The reason you use nuclear war, nuclear weapons in cities, unless you're trying to really just exterminate the enemy, is because you're trying to destroy the government structures or whatever, and you can't do accurate strikes.
So you just wipe out everything.
Dukes are good for that.
When you get things like a Rushniks that can go six, seven stories underground, fly in at four in a plasma envelope at 4,000 degrees, which just evaporates, literally disintegrates everything in its path because the atomic bonds are broken between the materials.
Atoms flow forward and everything just disintegrates into separate atoms, a cloud of atoms.
You can take out any base.
You can take out any government structure anywhere in the world.
You know, that's where we're at at this point.
And sooner or later, you know, sooner or later, if they, especially if they strike deep into Russia with deep missiles, it's going to go bad.
It's going to go very bad.
Putin and large parts of government have been trying to talk everyone off the ledge.
It's constantly trying to talk everyone off the ledge.
And if the Russian government really wanted to exterminate Zelensky and company, they could have done it.
And they probably will in the end do it.
Because it's obvious that the Coke head is blots out of his mind and he's not going to walk off the stage.
Of course, even if this ends tomorrow, the U.S. will kill him because you can't have a Coke head with a long tongue wagging his tongue all over the place.
He knows too much.
One way or the other, he's not coming out of this alive.
But that's the situation.
And it's just a question of now: is Trump's or Trump's advisor stupid enough to take that step with the long-range missile strikes?
Because even if Putin is trying to keep everything down and somewhat rational, he's not the only one in government.
They all look at Vladimir Vladimirish like some kind of overarching dictator.
He's an elected, constitutionally elected president.
He has a lot of powers.
A presidential republic.
But he's not the sole power source.
And there's other factions like in any government.
So, you know, how much do they want to risk?
I don't think they even understand what they're risking in the West.
I think they're absolutely ignorant.
Exactly.
I mean, I've told people that, you know, when Lavrov and others are talking about if the Brits send missiles into Moscow, there will be missiles into London.
They need to get the message.
The same in DC.
There will be missiles into DC if we send missiles into Moscow.
And they're in delusional fantasy land in a dangerous place in Washington, D.C.
Now, to the Stanislav, where can people, because there is, I mean, there's history upon history here.
Where can people go to find you?
You're on YouTube.
We've been sharing that.
Do you have a Rumble channel?
And are you on X?
I'm on X. Just look up Staskar Pivnik.
I'm not on Rumble for the sole reason.
Well, Rumble's blocked in Russia.
That was a silly decision from one of the agencies.
But the reason I'm not on Rumble, also is YouTube.
Well, YouTube is not officially blocked.
It's just slowed.
But the reason I'm not on Rumble is because the upload bandwidth was so narrow.
I couldn't get anything uploaded.
It'll upload.
It'd take two hours to upload.
And after two hours, it'd break off and drop and start again.
So I was like, that's how I kind of gave up on Rumble.
Maybe things have changed.
I don't know.
I'm also on Telegram.
I've got two channels.
I've got a Russian language channel, Stastodaya Bratna, and English channel, Staso's there.
So send me those links.
I'm going to put them up in the pinned comment after this, when it finishes uploading or finishes, you know, whatever, when it's available.
Okay.
Stanislav, I got to go do some.
I've been taking notes as you go to see things I have to go dig into myself, but thank you very much.
This has been maybe an overload for some and myself included, but it's been fantastically insightful.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, do things in the future.
Maybe we'll call him, you know, I do my bourbons with Barnes for folks.
So maybe Vodka was got a sloppy, you know, a true, great Ruskin name.
The you can find him, Mr. Slavicman, on YouTube.
Someone asked about USA Now asked about dubbed versions.
There are dubbed shows on there, the on his channel.
And when he does something in another language as well, he does a lot of English interviews and the rest.
But very appreciative.
It's very important we get this information out to the people that are in decision-making positions of influence because they have a naive and delusional view that could slow walk us into nuclear war.
And if they're absolutely thank you very much, and we'll definitely do it again.