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July 16, 2025 - Viva & Barnes

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Live with Journalist Susan Crabtree - Secret Service Debacle; Trump's Truth Post AND MORE!

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	I knew you urged people to move on, but I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in particular have been so interested in the Epstein story?
	You're so upset about how it's been handled.
	I don't understand it.
	Why they would be so interested.
	He's dead for a long time.
	He was never a big factor in terms of life.
	I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is.
	I really don't.
	And the credible information's been given.
	Don't forget, we went through years of the Mueller witch hunt and all of the different things, the Steele dossier, which was all fake.
	All that information was fake.
	But I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epsy case would be of interest to anybody.
	It's pretty boring stuff.
	It's sordid, but it's boring.
	And I don't understand why it keeps going.
	I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going.
	But credible information, let them give it.
	Anything that's credible, I would say let them have it.
	I think we need to replay that for a second just to appreciate something in the backdrop.
	That's Howard Luttnick, Chief of Commerce or something in the back.
	I'll get his exact title.
	I know you've urged people to move on, but I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in particular have been so interested in the Epstein story or so upset about how it's been handled?
	I don't understand why they would be so interested.
	He's dead for a long time.
	He was never a big factor in terms of life.
	Commerce Secretary, let's just go to the part where you see him laugh in the back.
	Look in the back.
	howard lutnick stuff it's sorted but it's boring and i don't understand why it keeps going uh i I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going.
	But credible information, let them give it.
	We'll pause it there.
	I'm going to keep this one open in the back.
	You watch this.
	Very conflicted because I have been among the most vocal Trump supporters for a very long time.
	Critic where it's warranted and it's warranted here, but among the most vocal Trump supporters.
	Never in my life have I felt like I was being gaslit right up until now.
	Doesn't understand why the Epstein story is such a big deal, not just to his supporters, but quite apparently even to Democrats.
	Never understand, like, the internet is forever, for good and for bad.
	In this case, it shouldn't even be for bad.
	It should just be the internet's forever.
	Doesn't understand why it's such a big deal for his supporters.
	I'm not showing this montage.
	It's a montage.
	You've seen it all around.
	It was on Candace Owens' channel.
	It's not because it's on her channel that I'm going to avoid it.
	These are actual videos that we all have seen.
	It was just very easy to compile it without having to compile it by playing the compilation that Candace Owens had played on doesn't understand why it's such a big deal for Trump supporters and others.
	How is it that my father can be convicted of 34 crimes, but no one on Epstein's list has even been brought to light?
	How is I'm trying to figure out how that's possible, right?
	That's Don Jr.
	It's almost like they're trying to protect those pedophiles for some reason.
	I can't imagine why, right?
	I'll put on pause.
	I agree with Don Jr.
	Why is the FBI protecting the greatest pederist, the largest scale pederist in human history?
	Simple, because of who's on that list.
	For those of you who don't know, that's director of the FBI, Cash Patel.
	For those of you who don't know who this is, this is the current vice president, JD Vance.
	Everybody in politics has a vice that's much worse than alcoholism, is the way that I put it.
	But we release the list.
	Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list.
	That is an important thing.
	The DOJ may be releasing the list.
	This is Pam Bondi.
	We've seen this a dozen times.
	Jeffrey Epstein's clients?
	Will that really happen?
	It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
	That's been a directive by President Trump.
	This is Alina Haba.
	You know, I'll stop here and I'll play the longer Alina Haba video.
	We've all seen this.
	It's on the internet forever.
	Good and for bad.
	This was posted by Phil Holloway earlier today.
	Hold on, let's just play this.
	I also agree with J.D. Vance.
	I agree with Pam Bondi.
	I agree with Alina Haba right now.
	But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing.
	We have flight logs.
	We have information, names that will come out.
	Is it going to be shocking?
	I don't see how it's not shocking that there were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable.
	Let's talk about the reverse.
	I believe in accountability.
	So you have to now go through your process.
	Now, I won't say they're guilty until they go through their time in court.
	But again, now it's time for accountability.
	We have seen for so many years, Pierce, in this country, many investigations, subpoenas, testimonies in Congress, et cetera, et cetera.
	But there's a general frustration with accountability.
	We take it halfway.
	We don't take it home.
	And I really believe that now with Cash and Pam, there will be accountability.
	We take it halfway.
	We don't take it home.
	That was Alina Haba.
	She is now the AG for New Jersey, I think, or the district attorney for New Jersey.
	Pam Bondi, Attorney General for United States of America.
	Cash Patel, director of the FBI, JD Vance.
	And I've never felt like I've been gaslit until now, Trump standing up in front of a camera, saying he doesn't understand why it's so important.
	I know you urge people to move on, but I did in the Epstein story.
	I don't know.
	I don't understand it.
	Why they would be so interested.
	He's dead for a long time.
	Doesn't understand why anyone would be so interested.
	This is sort of like the Hope Springs Eternal type thing.
	Like if you say it enough times, people will maybe be convinced.
	Maybe it's sort of like the good salesman type of thing where you're like, you hope to Convince the person to purchase what you're selling, nobody's buying it.
	What is particularly interesting, you look in the back and you've got Howard Luttnick there.
	And when I saw this first video, I couldn't remember exactly who Howard Luttnick was.
	I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going.
	But only bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going.
	Something that his administration has been not pushing because pushing has a negative connotation to it, raising awareness of, shining the light on.
	The highest level people, the VP, I actually had someone on the internet say, De Viva, you're not being fair on JD Vance.
	If you actually hold people to the words that they actually use when they go out publicly speaking on behalf of the government, they're not going to go on podcasts anymore.
	We're not talking about a one-off joke here.
	We are talking about campaign policy from the highest ups that are now members of the administration.
	And I'm sitting there watching Trump and I'm saying, if I'm Dan Bongino, if I'm Cash Patel in the FBI, who have been not grifting off of this, people accuse everybody of grifting.
	It's the new, you're a Nazi.
	If you don't like someone, they're a grifter.
	Making money off of your work is not called grifting.
	It's called work.
	And if you sell a product that nobody wants or that's a worthless product, they're not going to buy it for very long.
	And so the fact that Cash Patel wrote a book that was a best, you know, a book that people bought and read.
	If it were garbage, you know, you sell a few copies and then the word that it's garbage gets around, nobody buys it anymore.
	The fact that Dan Bongino had it, the most popular podcast is like sort of a demeaning word, news show.
	Like, I think we've all sort of, you watch Vince in the morning, you'll get it, you'll be reminded as to how damn good Dan Bongino's show was, not from a clickbait perspective, from an insight perspective, from a source perspective.
	Also, his delivery was impeccable.
	If you're peddling disinformation or stuff that is easily debunked or stuff that is just sensationalist, you don't last very long.
	Or you quickly get the reputation of being like National Inquirer, the other one there, the one that the bat boy escapes.
	That's not what Bongino was ever.
	So you have now Donald Trump saying, basically, anybody pursuing this story is a bad person and, you know, fake news.
	The director of his FBI, his FBI, a year and a half ago, not pushing a story, revealing the light.
	The deputy director, his AG, his VP, Alina Haba.
	And by the way, Lutnik in the back.
	You want to talk about like, you feel like you're being gaslit and you feel like you're going crazy.
	When I first saw that, I'm like, oh, something, there's going to be a connection between Lutnik and Epstein.
	Now, leave it to fake news to find it.
	You put everything on blast.
	You bring the big shiny spotlight of the Streisand effect, everything.
	It's all going to come out.
	Do you remember how Acosta, Alex Acosta, the man who struck the plea deal with Epstein back in 2009?
	When that came back to light in 2019, after Trump had brought him into the administration, disgraced he had to leave.
	I don't know.
	I don't know Lutnik from a hole in the wall.
	All that I know is I'm watching that video and I'm watching Lutnik in the back laugh while Donald Trump is somehow suggesting.
	Yeah, you can make the argument he's only referring to fake news.
	He's making the argument that anybody who pursues this story, Bongino implored his audience to never let go of this story.
	There's something deeper there.
	Maybe he was wrong.
	Maybe he was genuinely and sincerely wrong and he now knows that.
	I don't believe it.
	I won't believe it.
	And maybe stubbornly, I won't believe it.
	And not because I'm afraid of having been fooled.
	If there's evidence that comes out and says, yep, lo and behold, Epstein was doing nothing for nobody except himself.
	I'm not stupid.
	I'm not stubborn.
	But Bongino comes out and says, don't let the story go.
	Now, you bring it up to the general public again.
	People are going to find things out.
	Howard Luttnick was literally Jeffrey Epstein's neighbor.
	Now, there's no guilt by association.
	You don't necessarily know what your neighbors are doing.
	I don't know what my neighbors are doing, although I can see into their backyards.
	They see into ours.
	I'm pretty sure they know what we're doing.
	Howard Luttnick literally was Jeffrey Epstein's next door neighbor.
	This is not me.
	This is like, I look at it.
	I'm like, oh, I bet you there's going to be something there.
	It might be nothing there there, but there's something there.
	Howard Luttnick's ties to Jeffrey Epstein come under scrutiny.
	This is from Newsweek.
	Howard Luttnick's real estate ties to financier and child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein are once again drawing scrutiny.
	Given the Commerce Secretary's apparent support for President Donald Trump's dismissal of what he describes as the Epstein case, a 2019 investigation by Cranes found that Epstein, in addition to his infamous townhouse at 9 East 71st Street in Manhattan, also known as the Herbert N. Strauss House, had significant links to the adjacent property, which real estate records show is still owned by Luttnick.
	What is that?
	I'm not going to hold people to the sins of their neighbors if they didn't even know they were neighbors.
	What the hell are the chances that Howard Luttnick, who's in the backdrop laughing it up as Trump dismisses the Epstein story and refers to anybody pursuing the story as a bad person, fake news, that he literally owns the property next to Epstein's now infamous property?
	What are the chances?
	Why it matters.
	Hold on, let's see here.
	Newsweek has reached out to the Commerce Department for comment on the property and Lutnik's relationship with his former neighbor, Why It Matters.
	The dispute that has arisen in the Republican Party over Epstein and the quote client list.
	This is the first time ever that they put the quote in client list.
	He is alleged to have possessed has become a significant thorn in the side of the Trump administration.
	Prominent MAGA figures, including Tucker, Jones, have voiced anger at the refusal to release full details regarding Epstein's past relationships and the handling of the case has resulted in feuds within and between federal agencies, according to CNN BBC.
	The president himself has long-standing personal ties to Epstein, who died in 2019, from what the Department of Justice recently confirmed as a suicide.
	Oh, they confirmed it as a suicide based on the file that Trump has now taken the position can't be relied on because it was written by Obama, Biden, Bill Clinton, Comey, and the other FBI.
	So they rely on it to say that he committed suicide, but also tell you it's so unreliable, we're not releasing any more of it because it was literally written by the deep state, who was the author of hoaxes such as Russia Gate.
	However, the suicide finding has been disputed by his lawyer and is doubted by a significant number of Americans.
	Luttnick's own links to Epstein stem from overlapping property interests and do not indicate any interactions or past relationship between the pair.
	However, the details have nonetheless garnered significant interest on social media, with prominent accounts sharing the information and their posts amassing millions of views.
	Many are pointing out to the findings as further reason to scrutinize the administration's reluctance to provide full transparency over the financers' past connections and the circumstances surrounding his death.
	What to know?
	Listen to this.
	Listen to this.
	It might just be a coincidence, but maybe if it's a coincidence, maybe Luttnick says, Trump, it might not be the best thing from an optics perspective if I'm in the backdrop laughing it up while you write off the Epstein file, considering I bought his property and live next door to him.
	The property at 11 East 71st Street is situated east of Fifth Avenue on the upper east side of Manhattan.
	In 2015, Luttnick, then CEO of financial services firm Cantor Fitzgerald, hosted a fundraiser for Democratic primary candidates, Hillary Clinton.
	Let me just understand this.
	Luttnick hosted a fundraiser for Clinton at the 10,000 square foot home.
	And real estate records still list him as the property's owner.
	In addition to being his neighbor, real estate records show that Epstein was also listed as an owner of the property prior to Luttnick purchasing it in 1998.
	As first revealed in Crane's 2019 investigation, a now dissolved entity with links to Epstein called Sam Conversion Corp bought the 11th property.
	It was later sold for an unknown consideration to a specialized trust, then to another, the Comet Trust.
	Well, that's a very interesting thing given the Comet Pizza Link.
	In 1996, the latter, Crane's found, had financial and familial ties to an individual whose name appeared in Epstein's Black Book of Contacts obtained by the FBI during an investigation.
	In addition, property records seen by Newsweek show that Epstein was listed as the trustee of the building during these transactions and transfers while playing a direct role in them.
	Epstein granted his lawyer, Jeffrey Skantz, power of attorney over the property in 1996, selling it to the Comet Trust a few weeks later.
	In 98, Comet Trust sold the property to Lutnick, who took out a $4 million mortgage for the purchase, which was paid off in 2018.
	Look at that picture.
	Yes, nothing to see here, people.
	The re-emergence of these facts has drawn significant social attention on social media.
	Many noting his response, speaking to reporters, Trump said, okay, then we got the article here.
	What happens next?
	We're going to get into it.
	As Republican infighting over the case continues, Trump has shifted responsibility to Attorney General Pam Bondi, who he said should release whatever she thinks credible regarding Epstein.
	That is one, now I'm sort of flabbergasted by the comment trust link.
	That's kind of a flabbergasting coincidence.
	Do we not think?
	So that's what's going on.
	You have Donald Trump after years of him saying, oh, sorry, hold on.
	I actually forgot one.
	I forgot another one here.
	And someone says, you know, he says, move on.
	Who's interested in it?
	Was it, just got it, it's like the internet is forever.
	And this is not a question of holding this against someone.
	This is just a question of trying to make sense in my own mind.
	Am I going crazy?
	Or did they all not place great emphasis on Epstein, the client list, the fact that it was a cover-up of a pederast ring?
	Like, I feel like I'm going crazy.
	Like, maybe I never heard it.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	That's right.
	There's video of it.
	But a lot of big people went to that island.
	But fortunately, I was not one of them.
	It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public.
	Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it?
	Probably will be, by the way.
	So if you're able to, you'll be.
	Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it.
	Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago.
	You know, they do that for danger too, because, you know, it endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera.
	So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing.
	But yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein.
	I'd have no problem with it.
	But a lot of big.
	I mean, it's like, okay, this wasn't 10 years ago.
	This was during this election cycle.
	That's Lex Friedman.
	That's the Lex Friedman podcast when Trump was on, talking about the client, the Epstein client list who went to the island.
	Now we're being told, by the way, like I've been, I've been following it literally for years.
	I've been following it since YouTube was demonetizing this content.
	And when we were being told, remember what it said in that Newsweek article, you know, we were being told that Epstein killed himself.
	And I said, I had a list of questions for Bongino when he did the interview.
	Yeah, let me bring this up here.
	It's good to be consistent.
	And it's, you know, when you don't have a good memory, all that I have to know is what would I have thought at the time?
	When Bongino was on Fox News for an interview, and I said this during the interview, I would have had a few follow-up questions.
	I appreciate Bongino's in an impossible position.
	He's a good man who has voluntarily walked into a shitstorm, typo intended.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	The fundamental, this is from May.
	This was when we were being told he killed himself, no list, no black male material, move on.
	Then it was, we can't release it because it might incriminate unrelated parties or it might re-victimize the victims.
	And then it's the file's totally corrupt and we're not releasing it because it's unreliable.
	And when they were telling us that he had committed suicide, I'm like, based on what?
	Based on the file.
	The fundamental problem is that many people simply do not trust the file that was prepared by the prior administration's corrupt and weaponized FBI.
	People expect the current administration to investigate the investigators, not rely on their findings.
	When we were being told he killed himself, nothing to see here, move on.
	I'm like, based on what?
	Based on the file.
	This is the same file prepared by the same corrupt criminal FBI that you are now investigating criminally for the Russia Gate hoax.
	Now it's gone to the file was corrupt, unreliable.
	It's a hoax just like Russia Gate, fine people and whatever.
	And so this is a moving goalpost that people Aren't stupid, and then as much as people want success and need success, like the alternative is communism in America, the alternative is a Kamala Harris presidency, a Democrat government that will literally castrate and mutilate and sterilize young children because apparently adults think you listen to the gender dysphoria whims of a child.
	But like the gaslighting.
	And then, well, I think, you know, last week with respect to one of Trump's truth posts, I said, this is, this is the biggest mistake I think he's ever made in this presidency.
	I think he made another one.
	I think I read this.
	I was on with the unusual suspects this morning.
	Then I was on with Tim Poole over lunch.
	And I saw this as we were recording live.
	And I swear to my stomach sank.
	I'm like, this can't be real.
	This is a post that Trump put on truth.
	And you go read the response.
	I mean, they're mixed responses.
	This is a post that Trump posted to truth.
	And I'll read it.
	It's a little long, but it's worth reading in its entirety.
	The radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again.
	Just like with the fake and fully discredited steel dossier, that was Trump pissing on hookers in a Moscow hotel.
	The line 51 intelligence agents that was saying the laptop bears the earmarks of a Russian information campaign.
	The laptop from hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia.
	No, it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom.
	And even the Russia, Russia, Russia scam itself.
	By the way, all of these, Trump is right.
	Intelligence was a lying.
	The story was true and or being lied about, or the story was totally false, like the Russia game.
	Totally fake and made up story in order to hide crooked Hillary's big loss in 2016 presidential election.
	These scams and hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at.
	It's all they have.
	They are no good at governing.
	True.
	No good at policy.
	True.
	No good at picking winning candidates.
	True.
	Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue.
	True.
	That might not be a good thing.
	Some people say sticking together unquestioningly is what a cult is and not what a party is.
	Set that aside.
	Their new scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	Tell me what that means.
	So nothing happened.
	Like Jeffrey Epstein hoax is fake like the Rushergate hoax as in it never happened.
	All the documents were doctored.
	It was a manufactured, fabricated crime.
	Okay, well, I guess you let Jelaine Maxwell out of prison then.
	Oh, it actually happened, but now it's being weaponized in a way that's inaccurate.
	Okay, how is that?
	Tell me.
	What the hell does that mean, the Jeffrey Epstein hoax?
	Like a lot of people say, you know, will not get over the fact that at the heart of this, it's about the rape of children.
	Like a lot of people are never going to forget that.
	What is the hoax?
	The sexual exploitation of minors?
	The trafficking of minors for which Ghelaine Maxwell was convicted?
	Or it never happened and she shouldn't have been convicted.
	Imagine referring to the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy as a hoax without any further definition, as if we're meant to guess what is the hoax aspect element about Jeffrey Epstein's story.
	And my past supporters, listen to this, their new scam is what we'll forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	And my past supporters have bought into this bullshit.
	I don't know who he's quoting, hookline and sinker.
	They haven't learned their lesson and probably never will, even after being conned by the lunatic left for eight years.
	I have had more success in six months.
	True, than perhaps any president in history.
	True.
	It's a shame to put it at risk for whatever is being covered up here.
	It's a damn shame.
	And all these people want to talk about with strong prodding by the fake news and the success-starved Dems is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	Let these weaklings continue forward to do the Democrats' work.
	Don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented successes because I don't want their support anymore.
	Thank you for your attention to this matter.
	Make America great again.
	I put out a post after that.
	Like, can you imagine that there are people out there who lost friends, lost family, got fired, went to jail for their support for Donald Trump?
	And there's a strong overlap of people who believe the Epstein story needs to be exposed and people need to be held to account.
	And now you've got Trump saying, I don't want your support anymore.
	Well, A, he's not going to be re-elected.
	It's his last term.
	But B, can you imagine, like, when I read it, I'm like, remember that scene from Breaking Bad when Hank basically finally realizes that Walter is a bad guy?
	And then Hank looks at Walter and he says, I don't even think I know you anymore.
	And then Walter says, if that's true, then tread lightly.
	Let me see if I can find that.
	It was the best.
	Tread lightly, Breaking Bad.
	Yeah.
	It was the best line in the series.
	There's two scenes I remember from it.
	Has everybody seen it?
	I won't ruin it.
	But like, when I'm reading that post, it's not in the same context, but it's like a post from a different person.
	It's like, it's such a out of character to not, you know, it's one thing to bully your adversaries, but to basically shame your most dedicated supporters out of support.
	I don't need your support.
	I don't want your support.
	I already had it.
	Thank you.
	I listen to you when you vote for me, but I don't really care to listen to you when I don't like what you have to say.
	Oh, and also I don't need your vote anymore because I'm never running again, but we do have midterms in a year.
	We do have another presidential election in three years and three months.
	This is the best line ever.
	Let me make sure I can get to see how fast.
	Let's see how fast this stream gets copyclaimed on Commitube.
	Who?
	I don't know who you are.
	I don't even know who I'm talking to.
	If that's true, if you don't know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly.
	I don't know who I am.
	Come on.
	That is not just television.
	That is not just Netflix.
	That is art.
	My goodness.
	Yeah, I got the goosebumps watching that.
	So you imagine that.
	Tell your supporters, if you keep pushing this Epstein thing that, you know, Bongino, Patel, Haba, Bondi, JD, I had been pushing for years, you're bad, you're fake news, I don't like your support anymore, and I don't need your support anymore.
	And I'm sitting here thinking, like, try to, you know, play.
	I want to envision a scenario where at the end, he comes up and says, guys, I'm sorry I had to treat you like that.
	It needed to be done for the circumstances.
	I hope you understand and forgive me.
	And now we've got our massive victory.
	There's no way that that happens anymore.
	And I know that for all the detractors out there who are sitting there saying, I told you guys, I told you he was a connection.
	You shouldn't have supported him.
	You shouldn't have had his hat in the back.
	You shouldn't have his shoes up there.
	You should have gotten his $2 bill.
	I can hear them.
	I mean, I want to envision a scenario where I understand the deception, but it's very, very difficult to find one.
	And at the end of the day, also, there are some people out there, even if it sat down for a fireside chat to explain everything.
	You see, the reason I needed to do this is because I needed to shed light on the deep state.
	And I needed the media to amplify this story.
	And there was no better way to have the story amplified than by me minimizing it, taking a position that pissed off my base because then the media would amplify it even more.
	And I'm sorry I had to do it.
	I hope you understand.
	But alas, we've taken them all down.
	We've exposed it.
	There's very few scenarios where that is the outcome.
	And some people would say, Viva, that is one hell of a Coke that you're trying to deal with right there.
	And I wouldn't even be able to fault them for that.
	That's where my thoughts at right now.
	The other part of where my thoughts are at, what in the hell could be so bloody damning in revealing whatever is being concealed in those Epstein files that this is what needs to be done in order to conceal it?
	Have a president pull a full 180 within six months and tell you and browbeat you and ultimately shame you into giving up on the story.
	What could be so damning?
	I can think of a few things.
	I put it to Twitter and I can say, what could be in those files that could be so damning that if revealed, could take down the American government, take down the government of another country, come to World War III?
	Some people had some good ones here.
	Some answers are going to be predictable.
	I'll scroll up here.
	Let's see here.
	We're not the only compromised country.
	They all are.
	It would completely upset every major government of the world.
	Let's see here.
	Literally nothing could or would, anything can be spun.
	The global elites, come on, I saw some good answers here before.
	Some people said, you know, one of my theories is if you found out that the government was literally facilitating the sexual exploitation of minors for the purposes of obtaining blackmail material for foreign policy, coercion, or extortion, that could take down a government.
	Even if it occurred 20 years ago, that would delegitimize an entire government.
	Other people said it's still going on.
	That would take down an administration.
	If you found out that there was foreign policy on a global scale that was dictated through whatever was going on in this file, that could lead to serious foreign conflict.
	It could seriously undermine certain foreign nations.
	Like, in playing out doomsday scenarios in my head, everybody goes straight with the Israeli angle.
	Hypothetically, you find out that Israel has been using blackmail material to coerce political favors from America.
	All right.
	Everyone turns on Israel and they say, Israel, no longer an ally.
	You go fend for yourselves against your neighbors.
	War breaks out in the Middle East.
	America doesn't get involved.
	And then the Samson alternate, you know, it leads to nuclear war in the Middle East, which leads to nuclear war and the devastation.
	All right.
	I can imagine scenarios where for the avoidance, avoision of World War III, Trump has to take the slings and arrows of making this go away, whether people like it or not.
	I don't think it's going to get very far, but I could contemplate possibilities.
	I think that is the latest in what's going on today.
	I don't like it.
	I find it actually very upsetting.
	I very much support Trump, which does not mean being a yes man.
	I think part of the problem here is that Trump might very well be surrounded by too many yes men or women, yes people.
	Yes, gender neutral pronouns.
	He's surrounded by too many yes people who are giving him terrible advice, who are allowing him to think it will be gobbled up if he alienates a meaningful portion of his base.
	You know, I could see people whispering in his ear, Trump, don't worry, but never mind the chatter.
	It's social media.
	It's influencers.
	The people on the street don't care about this.
	And I've heard people entertain this idea.
	You go to a pub and people are not going to care about the Epstein files.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	I'm not convinced that people on the street would not not care about this.
	I'm not convinced that people on the street would not care about this.
	But this is more than the Epstein files.
	When I had Richard Barris on, who does some amazing polling, who actually sent me a poll indicating Trump has gone negative, this is a litmus test of government transparency.
	It's not just about Epstein.
	It's not just about one man.
	It's about a two-tier system of justice where the connected never get punished, somehow manage to get out of their problems, even if it's by taking their own lives.
	And there is no justice.
	And it was about promises made in terms of fighting the deep state.
	And now people who are so convinced that that's what Trump is doing are trying to find the, what I believe, coping mechanisms to explain away that all of this that he's doing is indeed part of his fight of the deep state.
	He's got to downplay right off the Epstein files in his fight against the deep state.
	This is what big polling data, big data poll from Richard Barris says, poll, Trump approval turns slightly negative in July.
	This is from July 16.
	Democrats lead generic ballot for the first time in Trump's second presidency.
	President Donald J. Trump approval ratings July 2025.
	As of July 14, 2025, Donald J. Trump approval rating stands at 48.3%, while 48% disapprove, up from just 37% in January, shortly after inauguration and a reversal since May.
	Locator pins on the map below indicate by color voters presidential approval ratings.
	Pins located off map indicate their verified arrow overseas eligible.
	Strongly approved, strongly disapproved in red.
	And you can see it.
	President Donald Trump's approval rating is now slightly negative territory, a sharp decline from its all-time high shortly after inauguration.
	The survey was conducted by Big Data Poll as part of public polling project July 2025.
	I'm going to give everybody the link to this because I think you'll be able to find Richard Barris's.
	You can support his work.
	He does amazing work.
	Let me bring this out here.
	Link.
	Sorry, here.
	And so that's it.
	I'm going to go to the chat in a second.
	I just want to bring up one more video from Tom Fitton, who's asking for FOIA requests.
	What did he say here?
	Fitten, the FBI and DOJ can't be trusted.
	They're not capable of serious criminal probes, especially not into themselves or the CIA, which helped lead the conspiracy against Trump.
	And let's hear what he has to say here.
	The handling of the Epstein matter by the FBI and the Justice Department further confirmed that they can't be trusted to cross the street on their own.
	And I don't think the agencies institutionally are capable of the types of sophisticated, comprehensive, or dare I say, competent criminal investigations, A, into themselves, or B, into agencies like the CIA who were at the center of this grand conspiracy against Trump.
	That's a short touch.
	You can get a few extra seconds in there.
	That's Tom Fitton, who's been making FOIA requests and getting heavily redacted documents back from the Trump administration as relates to FOIA request documents relating to the Biden administration.
	So it's very despairing.
	It's very despairing.
	Some people are saying, well, no one's ever going to defect from the Republicans and vote Democrat.
	You'd have to be a moron to do that.
	The bigger risk is that when people are browbeaten into silence, shut up if I don't want to hear what you have to say.
	Well, they're not exactly going to run out and vote in the midterms.
	And that's going to be a big problem.
	And just as a mere, you know, there's what we say in Quebec, there's a term called bon d'ole.
	Bon d'ole, good, good fraud is what they call it.
	You know, you're selling a car.
	The car salesman says, this is the best car on the market.
	You're going to love it.
	It'll last you a lifetime.
	Nobody thinks he means literally it's the best car on the market.
	Nobody thinks he literally means it's going to last you a lifetime.
	It's what you call good fraud in that nobody takes it literally.
	And maybe Trump, you know, thinks that by selling this, you know, people are going to be reassured and move on.
	They're not.
	And not out of spite to Trump, although this is giving all the fodder in the world to his detractors.
	There are people who are genuinely appalled by this situation and are now going to be unjustly suspicious of the only person who I think doesn't have any personal responsibility in the situation.
	It's crazy.
	And the political blunder that this is providing against the Republicans and the fodder that it's providing for the Democrats, where they now get to be the ones that come on and say, yeah, we want to order the release of the Epstein documents and the Republicans are blocking it after what Haba said, Patel, Bongino, Bondi, JD, Trump himself.
	So they put Rokana put out that amendment yesterday, which got shut down by the Republicans.
	Great, great optics there.
	Like, I talked about the theoretics.
	You know, the talking point on the right was we can't pass this amendment, which would compel the production, preservation, production, and publication of the Epstein evidence on a DOJ website because it would be publication of C Sam and CP cheese pizza.
	It's like, nobody wants that.
	Nobody's asking for that.
	Quit pretending that's what it is.
	If that's the concern, add a caveat to the amendment.
	Preservation and publication after a certain period of time of all the evidence related to the Epstein file, save and accept for any publication that would contravene the laws as relates to child pornography or child sexual abuse material.
	End of story.
	Well, it seems that that's back up here now.
	This is from OAN, One America News.
	Let me see what the headline is.
	GOP rep Thomas Massey attempts to force vote on releasing Epstein files.
	This is from today, 10.01 a.m.
	GOP rep Tom Massey introduced a bipartisan resolution to force a vote on mandating the Department of Justice DOJ to release the files related to child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
	I want to put it on little caveat here.
	Some people are going to say this was Trump's plan all along, get his enemies to demand the release of the documents.
	And then, you know, it won't be on him.
	And he'll have successfully gotten his enemies to do his bidding for him.
	It would be a great strategy.
	And had that been all that he had done, I would say, well done, President Trump.
	But when you need to, you didn't need to insult your base.
	You didn't need to demean, degrade, and gaslight your base in order to do that.
	There would have been other ways to do it.
	And maybe it was just a poorly executed plan to get his adversaries to demand publication of the Epstein files.
	So he could say, look, well, I don't think there's anything big in there.
	Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	But if you guys want it, well, you pass the amendment.
	If that were the plan, good plan, poor execution.
	You didn't need to alienate your base in order to do that.
	And then some people are saying he didn't mean his base.
	He meant fake news, yada, yada.
	Okay, poor execution of a good plan or good execution of a poor plan.
	The bipartisan effort led by Rep Massey and Democrat Rokana is labeled the Epstein Files Transparency Act, EFTA, which would force the House to vote on the complete release of the government's files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
	Massey announced the introduction of the act in an ex-post writing.
	We all deserve to know what's in the Epstein files, who's implicated, and how deep this corruption goes.
	We all agree on that.
	Americans were promised justice and transparency.
	We agree on that.
	We're introducing a discharge petition to force a vote in the U.S. House of Representatives on releasing the complete files.
	Massey revealed that the discharge petition is a, quote, procedural tool for bypassing leadership.
	In seven days, we can start collecting signatures of 218 signatures.
	At 218 signatures, the House must vote on our bill requiring full release of the Epstein files.
	If your representatives won't sign the discharge petition, ask why.
	As of Wednesday morning, Massey's announcement post on XGarnet 3.2 million views and 57,000 likes.
	I want to see something here.
	I thought they were going to maybe make an amendment to the resolution so that it would quell anybody's concerns that it would compel the production of criminal CSAM.
	Should the resolution pass, the Department of Justice would be required to make publicly available In a searchable and downloadable format, unclassified records, documents, communications, investigative materials in possession of the department, including FBI investigation, U.S. attorney's offices.
	Fine.
	The measure notes that the documents are prohibited from being withheld, redacted, or delayed.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	Okay.
	Regardless of if they cause embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity, including to any government official, public figure, or foreign dignitary.
	From his mouth to God's ears.
	Meanwhile, President Trump has labeled the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy of trafficking children of the billionaires politically as a hoax.
	Imagine so many unforced errors.
	I don't understand why.
	But let's see what happens with that amendment.
	Now, that's really all we have on that.
	I think.
	Probably going to remind myself of something afterwards, but let's go take some questions.
	By the way, Susan Crabtree was running a little late.
	Yesterday, it was in fact a confusion on time zones.
	Being absolutely neurotic, I go through all of the possibilities.
	She said yes, then she immediately regretted it because she saw my Twitter feed and then couldn't politely back out.
	That's not what happened.
	She said yes, and then she got a call from the administration that says that Viva's talking too much about the Epstein files.
	Don't fratonize with that devil child.
	That also didn't happen.
	It was just a straight up time zone difference, which I didn't even think to ask.
	So she's running a little late today.
	So hopefully we'll be able to do this.
	Let's go to the Rumble Rants.
	I noticed some Bill Tong in the house.
	Oh, cripe.
	Come on, get over.
	Oh, did I just lose all of them?
	Oh, that's annoying.
	Oh, okay.
	I got it right here.
	Here we go.
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	Why does bonjour sound like the same as why?
	No, it's bon d'ol.
	Bonjour is hello.
	Bon is one word and dull.
	Dole is fraud in French.
	But so when some people sued for fraud, like dull, dull is like your fraudulent inducement.
	But then they say, no, no, no.
	C'est pot tout mouves d'ol.
	It's not all bad fraud.
	It's good.
	It's exaggeration that people know is exaggeration and should not be taken literally.
	Okay, that was from 719 Rug Sucker.
	It's a very gross sounding name.
	T-Heitz, or as I like to say, Thites.
	I think you were exactly right the first time.
	He is awakening not just his base, but the world is looking for Epstein Docks at this point.
	Yeah, but the problem is the happy ending has to be him admitting he was doing what he was doing, lest people think he was, you know, is deceiving them.
	But then even that, it amounts to saying, yes, I was lying to you, but you have to understand I was lying to you for a good reason.
	Not many people accept that.
	Yeah.
	Quellen says, great show.
	Thank you very much.
	808 Scotty says, BB gave Trump a gold page as a warning.
	Since then, Trump has had his head up BB's ass.
	A gold page.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if I can find out what that means.
	Gold page meaning.
	Gold page meaning on a book typically refers to the gilded pages or gift gilt edges, which are the edges of the book's pages that have been adorned with a thin layer of gold for decorative or sometimes practical purposes.
	Okay.
	Gold meaning, let me see.
	I guess that means blackmail.
	Let me see if I add blackmail to it.
	Let's see what AI is generating.
	It refers to gilded edges.
	Okay, no, so I'm not kidding.
	I don't know what gold page means.
	Sorry.
	Amonzine, which is actually a type of pastry in France.
	Trump was never that keen on releasing the files.
	Even when he said he would, he was tepid.
	I'm not sure he was ever planning to release everything.
	He just knew he had to say he would.
	That's another argument that people have been raising, that JD and Trump were engaging in election rhetoric, entertaining what they knew were the interests of their base in order to get elected.
	I don't believe that for a bloody second.
	I also don't believe that Bongino or Patel were ever saying anything they did not sincerely believe on their show and in their book.
	I don't believe that either.
	You can accuse me of being partial to them, whatever.
	So I don't believe that.
	But some people are saying, yep, they were engaging in red meat for their base and now they've finally got behind the scenes and they see that they were wrong all along.
	Horse crap.
	And if that's the case, just show us the evidence that shows that they were wrong.
	And that evidence can't be the very same file that they're now telling us is irremediably corrupted by the criminal DOJ FBI that prepared it.
	It doesn't work.
	It drives me crazy that people don't actually just see the logic and how logically it doesn't follow.
	You might not be able to see these because they're maybe behind my face.
	Great to catch you this early, Viva.
	Work is booming and it has been tough to catch you.
	Great.
	Work, as always, says cultivated mind.
	They make dog treats.
	They're very good stuff.
	808 Scottie says, Netanyahu shows up and suddenly all of the Epstein files are old news.
	He's alive and well in Israel.
	I do not believe that Epstein's alive.
	I don't judge anybody for conspiracy theories anymore, but I don't believe that one.
	All right, and last one, I think Susan Crapchy is here.
	I have criticized Jorin Barnes' admonishments of Trump.
	However, today, your remarkable assertion that this is to gain publicity, you're fulfilling God's plan, as well as Trump's keep it up.
	I had someone tell me that.
	Someone's like, someone says, Viva, this is trust Trump's plan.
	Trump was chosen by God.
	He survived that.
	It's like, look, if Trump is chosen by God, I'm saying this respectfully and not mocking religion.
	Well, Trump was saved by God, chosen by God.
	God chose to give him two ears, two eyes to listen and see.
	And he also chose to give his supporters voices that Trump could hear.
	So it's all part of God's plan, which includes me being a pain in the ass, a thorn in the side that I will not stop being.
	Now, with that said, Susan Crabtree is in the backdrop.
	And if you don't know who Susan Crabtree is, you will know who Susan Crabtree is.
	You know who she is, people, because I've been covering her for a long time.
	And now I finally get to get her on.
	She's here.
	All right, Susan, I'm bringing you in.
	Susan, how goes the battle?
	Oh, goodness.
	It's been pretty crazy lately.
	But thank you so much for being flexible and waiting for me here.
	Don't worry.
	It was funny.
	I was telling her, I'm a totally neurotic person.
	And yes, I was like, She got a call that said she can't come on with me because I'm making too much noise.
	But flip side also, you're making a bit of the noise, which I don't know if people are happy that you're making because they want it to get out or they're angry and they're saying, Susan, stop being, you know, stop, stop putting the emphasis on that, which we want to sweep under the rug.
	Before we even get into this, tell everybody who you are who may not know who you are.
	Well, I am a national political reporter for Real Clear Politics and I'm also an author of Fool's Gold.
	That's the book behind me.
	It's about California's demise, the radicals, con artists, and traitors who killed the California dream and now threaten us all.
	But I last year, after the assassination attempt, all of my sources that I've been covering when I was at the White House exclusively during the Obama administration years, they came out of the woodwork and they started talking to me again and say they were furious about seeing these failures take place.
	And then one thing led to another and all of these sources had information to share about what took place because they were absolutely livid to see their agency that they worked so hard for so many years fall into such disrepair and agnimine.
	So you've been doing this for a very long time.
	When you get on one story, I mean, you've been covering this thoroughly, but I presume you're covering tangential, you cover other stuff in the meantime.
	It hasn't just been the Secret Service story for the last year.
	No, my editors won't let me do that, even though that's where my heart is.
	But they said, Susan, you know, I cover the conflict between California and Trump, Gavin Newsom and Trump a lot.
	I cover lots of things.
	I cover religious freedom both internationally and domestically.
	Whatever, actually, I have a lot of, they are pretty laissez-faire.
	I have a lot of personal leeway with my editors.
	And after 31 years in the business, I'm thankful for it.
	There's very few places, but Real Player Politics does give me, let me do what I want, but I can't just do Secret Service exclusively, although I would love to right now.
	It seems like it comes and goes how much people care about this.
	And it's frustrating to me because last year, of course, two months after the assassination attempt, I was just, it was amazing.
	People really did care about my reporting.
	And I was on Dan Bongino's show a lot.
	And that helped fuel the interest as well.
	So I'm thankful to Dan.
	But at the same time, now it ebbed and flowed, right?
	People, I was still pursuing it, but didn't seem like there was the interest level, both just generally, because there was so much happening, and in Congress.
	I honestly believe Congress, because Republicans control it, unfortunately, and not unfortunately, but because Congress controlled it and there was a new administration coming in, the priorities were elsewhere.
	And they didn't really want, they wanted to give Sean Curran, the new director that Trump chose, very close to Trump, you know, someone's very close to Trump.
	They wanted to give him a chance.
	And I was willing to give him a chance too, but not when these suspensions came out last week.
	You mentioned like there wasn't that much interest in this.
	And I noticed that we all, I think, noticed that from the beginning, which in and of itself, is that not wildly suspicious to you?
	This is a failed assassination attempt on the president.
	And within three weeks of it, the media had effectively moved on.
	Now, we can understand why the media does it.
	They don't want to really make, you know, lionize Trump going into the election cycle.
	But Republicans, how is it not, how has it not like been something the object of continued scrutiny, criminal charges?
	Like, do you not find anything suspicious about the fact that even the Republicans don't seem to have as much of an interest in it as people still have in JFK's assassination?
	Yes.
	I mean, I think that they were up to, Rand Paul, I figured out what they were up to.
	They were producing a really solid report.
	It was a gold mine.
	Well, I would tell your readers that to go to the Senate Homeland Security Department webpage and look through that report or look at my tweets because I've read it for you.
	So you don't have to.
	I live tweeted it when I was reading it on Sunday.
	And it is a gold mine of material.
	And so that's what his Senate committee was up to.
	But, you know, I covered the Secret Service after the Carter Hena scandal when they were all, you know, going, they were found guilty of going and dealing with legal prostitutes, engaging in prostitution down in Colombia.
	And the fallout after that was it seems like it was bigger than this assassination attempt, if you can believe that.
	Because Jason Chaffetz, a congressman now is a Fox News host.
	He never let them escape it.
	He grilled them.
	He hauled the director in and he grilled them time and time again and was constantly making news.
	But, you know, the secret, because of the timing, because it was a new administration and the Senate Homeland Security Committee, Rand Paul, has a lot to do.
	The Oversight Committee has, they're still cleaning up from the Russian Hoax investigation, the Rosen Hoax situation.
	They're still playing cleanup over that.
	They have, you know, their priorities are completely diverted.
	And, you know, you need someone solely, a designated member of Congress to investigate the Secret Service.
	There have been two congressional committees.
	You know, I thought that they were, eh, did okay job.
	There was an independent review board, but Rand Paul's report, it was, it verified so much of my reporting for the last year.
	And I'll tell you, those suspensions last week, like Helen Comperator said, it was garbage.
	It's absolute garbage.
	Yeah, we're going to get to that because, I mean, I'm realizing now that the Comperator family is probably livid with the administration, but I don't want to, it's not a question of sowing discord.
	It's like I would be livid.
	I'm beyond livid.
	I mean, it's disheartening, but we're going to get there.
	How many assassination attempts have there been on Trump?
	There's Mar-a-Lago, there's Pennsylvania.
	Someone was mentioning there was an Iranian guy back years ago.
	How many have there been that are sort of confirmed or confirmable?
	That's a good question.
	I mean, what level does it have to reach to get to an assassination attempt?
	We know, obviously, there's two.
	There's been other people that have wanted to.
	There's something I'm going to report either this week or next, which is another instance where it could have been an assassination attempt.
	So I would say there was a handful.
	Obviously, one month after the fact of Butler, the J-13, well, two months, September 15th, the fact that the Secret Service didn't sweep the outside perimeter of that golf course, Donald Trump's golf course in West Palm Beach, that was absolutely absurd and a complete failure on the part of this.
	I'm going to ask you the very political load.
	It's a very hot.
	Do you not get the impression that they wanted it to happen?
	And I say they, and then there was like, who's the they?
	Why would his own Secret Service want to fail?
	This seems to be structural, but specific structural failings as relates to Trump, where it really feels like someone is coordinating so that it could happen.
	Do you get that feeling?
	Okay, well, I will tell you what I know.
	Jill Biden was hand-selected, Kimberly Cheadle, the head of the Secret Service, who was following this outdated protocol, this completely ludicrous protocol that a former president Donald Trump doesn't deserve, even though he was the nominee at the time and has been, you know, has tens of thousands of people coming to his rallies and broke the mold, basically, on any type of protocol.
	It should be threat-based.
	They were following this old protocol that he was like President Obama.
	Former presidents don't get the same level of security that sitting presidents and even first ladies get.
	Because as you know, David, he had the, Joe Biden had a competing event that day that was inside 400 people at an Italian-American dinner celebrating Italian Americans.
	Nothing wrong with that, but I reported on J-14 that that event took away resources from the Trump event, the Trump rally.
	And in fact, and then they told me the Secret Service said on Twitter to me directly, the press secretary said that you are very wrong, Susan.
	You're very wrong.
	And Fox News went with that story.
	Susan Crabtree's very wrong.
	So, and Keith Oberman called me a fraud in my Twitter stream.
	And then the next, by the end of that week, Senator Grassley had not only confirmed it, he had the receipts.
	He said they found that there was three to four times more post-standards.
	That's the most elementary position you can have in the Secret Service.
	Three or four more at the Joe Biden event than there was at the Trump event.
	Now they supplemented with local security, as we know, local law enforcement and Himland Security people.
	But yes.
	So Kimberly Cheeto, getting back to your question, Kimberly Cheeto is a Jill Biden hand-selected by her.
	They have a really close relationship.
	She was not following logic.
	She was not following the threat-based, they always say they're threat-based.
	This was not threat-based.
	They knew there was an Iranian threat and they still diverted the post-standards to the Jill Biden event.
	So they didn't provide a counter-surveillance unit.
	They only provided the counter snipers really late.
	Thank God they did.
	Thank God Sean Kern, the current director, was pushing back constantly and saying, we need more resources.
	We need more assets at not just on the campaign trail, but at Mar-a-Lago itself, because we know the Iranians are after us and all these other people with mental illness and they're ratcheting up the rhetoric and calling Trump Hitler.
	So do I think that layers of, like Dan Bongino used to say, layers of failures and ineptitude, does that equal intention?
	Or was there something more nefarious going along going on?
	I think right now we can securely say that she wasn't giving it enough.
	It wasn't just even logical.
	It was completely ridiculous following that old protocol.
	And, you know, the second guy, Ron Rowe, who, you know, got the job after her, was defending that policy.
	So, you know, that doesn't make any sense to me.
	And if you want to say it's partisan, it was political, it was a political thing.
	I've heard that from many Secret Service agents that Kimberly Cheadle was anti-Trump.
	Yes, I have heard that.
	First, I'll say one thing.
	Keith Olbermann is an outright misogynist.
	I notice who he decides to go crazy on on the internet, and it happens to be women a lot of the time.
	He's a psychopath and a POS of the highest order.
	But the amazing thing is at the time, and I remember this, the argument was that, or at least the suggestion was that there were resources that were being offered to Trump as an ex-president and not as a presidential candidate.
	And I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, at first it was denied and then it was admitted.
	And if you conflate, the idea is that he's a former president, set aside the fact that he's running for president again and one of the most politically relevant targets on earth.
	Kim Cheadle, who used to be in secret service for a couple of decades, got her job at PepsiCo as a result of the Bidens, if I'm not mistaken.
	Correct.
	And selected by Jill Biden in the secret service for Joe Biden.
	Was she part of a secret service in the 2020 to 2024 period?
	No, she was no.
	She was already director in 2021 or 22.
	She was back when he was vice president.
	She was very close to the Biden family because she was on that detail.
	So she brings Kim Cheadle back in and Kim Cheadle makes the decision, knowing that there's an Iranian threat, that they had classified intel that the Iranians wanted to get revenge on Trump for, I presume for the Soleimani strike back in 2019, but maybe for other stuff as well.
	Correct.
	And they deny requests from Trump's Secret Service for additional support at various events.
	That is confirmed.
	For a year and a half, yes.
	And Sean Curran, the current director, had the receipts.
	So he had them over a barrel, basically, when the assassination attempt happened.
	There was going to be no immediate firings of Sean Curran because he said, hey, you've been denying these security assets for a year and a half for Mar-a-Lago as well.
	He finally got more for Mar-a-Lago, but they were doing it in piecemeal.
	Here's the situation.
	They were negligent in their duties.
	They were not worthy of trust and confidence.
	That's the Secret Service motto.
	They systematically denied to Trump.
	Think about this.
	They gave that guy who, so you know, I don't know if I think you know, that in 2022, the Iranians put out a video that was a simulation of a drone attack on Donald Trump on a golf course.
	So every intelligence community person knows this.
	The Secret Service knows this.
	The Secret Service, when you become a detail person on Trump's detail, the first thing they do is up your security clearance so that you get access to all this information about the Iranian threats and every other threat against Donald Trump.
	So to tell me that you do not have an drone operator for Butler had one hour and was incredibly inexperienced and had to sit there on the tech with tech help support.
	With help, it was on, it was on like the retail side of DJI tech support, from what I remember.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Is that incredible?
	Nobody, the way you describe it, it sounds like they facilitated a scenario where over an extended period of time, it would happen and he would get killed.
	And by the grace of God, he didn't.
	Because people have to understand this as well.
	Their excuse for not having drone technology, oh, we were yesterday's technology today or whatever.
	They knew there was an Iranian drone threat.
	I saw the video.
	I've had discussions with people.
	I said, like, I know how to use a drone.
	I've got, I was like, please make sure you're taking care of this.
	They had for previous events, they denied sniper cover.
	They had it for Pennsylvania.
	Yes.
	One question I'm asking myself.
	And we'll get into that as well because the sniper, though a hero, might have been responsible for not securing that part of the roof.
	Question that right now.
	Who determined the perimeter in Butler, Pennsylvania?
	I believe it was the site agent, Neo Perez, and the lead agent, Meredith Bank, with help from the counterpart, Dan of Debray.
	So that's really three women, but they had supervisors who were men who didn't get punished.
	They got punished.
	Has anyone asked her why the Pac-Man perimeter?
	Has anyone asked that question?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	All the testimony from them is from their, they were involved with investigations with Congress, both the House and the Senate and an independent review board.
	Everybody's asked them that.
	They basically said that they thought they were going to have roving police.
	It was a huge mistake, that perimeter, roving police outside to prevent anybody from getting on the roof of the building or inside the building.
	They were going to close it off and they positioned these counter snipers.
	They let them position themselves inside the building instead of on top of.
	They did not require them to be on top.
	In every diagram that they had leading up to this, and there takes about six or seven days to do advanced work for an event like this.
	They had that AGR building was not covered correctly.
	Now, interesting.
	If I may, they literally walked through and they said, we're going to make a nice circle and we're going to carve out the roof of the AGR building because you don't do that by accident.
	And the rationale would be, well, we're going to have roving police who are going to be able to see if something's going on.
	If that's the rationale, why even have a perimeter?
	Just have roving police.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, they have to have nowhere to put the magnometer, but it was a bad decision.
	It was a terrible decision because there was a fence line.
	The whole decision was because there was a fence line that was separating the AGR building out.
	But it wasn't like a huge fence or anything.
	It was a chain-link fence.
	So these two women, Mio Perez and Meredith Bank, Mio was incredibly unserious agent.
	If you ask anybody in the Secret Service, she was known for her partying.
	She liked to go to the gym.
	She didn't show up to most of the meetings that week or some of them with the locals.
	She posted from her assignments, the Secret Service assignments, selfies on Instagram.
	She had several complaints against her about that.
	I found one of them on her Facebook page before she shut her down her Facebook page.
	And it was from Mar-a-Lago.
	I identified it as from Margago.
	And she said, work time, you know, look at me.
	I'm a Secret Service agent.
	And she was doing that.
	And so why in the world would Sean Curran allow her to be in charge of this event?
	And okay, there's supervisors that are supposed to provide, you know, oversight and they're going to check up on our work.
	Well, they didn't.
	Okay.
	When it came to the AGR building, they didn't ask.
	In fact, Meredith Bank, the more experienced agent who is in Pittsburgh, she's the lead agent.
	She's in charge of getting Donald Trump from the airport to the site and back to the airport.
	And she's in charge of working with the local law enforcement.
	So she's at fault too.
	They found her at fault.
	But she actually told the other female agent, Neo, hey, your boss, your supervisor is going to ask you how that roof is going to be covered.
	And you're going to have to have a way to tell him.
	You're going to have to tell him how you're going to cover that roof, that HER building.
	Guess what?
	That roof, that, sorry, that supervisor never asked.
	Okay.
	And there was an inspector there from Inspections Division, which is supposed to be providing accountability and integrity, if you look on their website, for the entire Secret Service operations.
	He did not do his job.
	Those two supervisors for those, that young experienced agent, they didn't take the fall.
	They skated and they got big promotions.
	One is the number two on Eric and Laura Donald Trump detail right now.
	And the other one is in charge of the inspections division.
	They got big promotions.
	Guess why?
	What do you, I think it's because they're friends with Curran.
	Who makes the decision for them to get promotions?
	Because like, you know, if I would say if Don Jr. and family has trust in them and Trump has trust in Curran, some people are going to say, Viva, who the hell are you to second guess?
	I'll give you the reasons why in a second, but who determines that they get promotions?
	Well, you know, Sean Curran is a director.
	He has to sign off on them.
	I mean, there's internal people that are promoting from within.
	They make recommendations.
	Ultimately, it's up to the director who he wants to be surrounded by.
	Okay, now, so let me ask you this.
	It Goes back a bit to the beginning.
	Sean Curran complaining that requests for additional support were not coming from Don Cheadle, not Don Cheadle, Ken Cheadle would not come from Ken Cheadle.
	You know, I don't want to be unfair on Sean Curan, but at some point, if you're asking for additional support and it doesn't come, you don't go through with the event.
	Maybe that's my rationale, or you provide the additional support yourself.
	It sounds like they went through with the events and didn't provide the additional support themselves and just said, well, I asked and they said no, and now the blame is on them.
	Is that what happened?
	That's sort of how the Secret Service is operating for the last year and a half, sadly enough.
	But they did have, okay, so they asked the, they were going to work with locals to provide farm equipment to block the line of sight, big combines, trucks.
	And guess what?
	The White House, sorry, not the White House, but the campaign staff, now some of them are at the White House, objected.
	Okay.
	And the Secret Service backed down.
	I just wrote that story yesterday.
	So you can see it on our website, Real Clear Politics.
	So I said it's called the Sloped Roof Saga Takes a New Turn because everyone thought that that was hilarious.
	The example, the reason why that wasn't covered was because it was a slope roof.
	And that's why it got Cheadle forced out of her job.
	But now we're dealing with the reality on the ground that there's so much blame to go around.
	Okay.
	So even the campaign staff objected to the farm equipment being there.
	And instead of saying, hey, you know what?
	We need the farm equipment there.
	We don't have anything else that's better.
	That young female agents, those agents again, and their supervisors did not object strongly enough.
	Or they didn't find something that's just as good.
	They didn't require the locals to be on the roof.
	I always think of the, you know, the Steve Erwin when he died and everyone's like, oh, he got stabbed in the heart by the spike on a stingray.
	It's like one in a million.
	I was like, yeah, but when you're constantly playing with one in a millions, lion gets him, alligator, whatever, when you're constantly playing with one in a million, you do something a million times, one in a million is going to occur.
	This really, I admit, I have a bias.
	I think this was not just layered incompetence.
	I think this was facilitating what they knew would happen and they would reap the political benefits without having to take any punishment for it.
	They were just like taking the chances every single time.
	And then the one time it went through.
	And by the grace of God, he survived that.
	And then they almost got, it almost happened again two months later.
	Do you place, I'm going to ask a touchy question.
	Do you place any blame with Sean Curran?
	I do.
	I do place blame with Sean Curran.
	Sean Curran signed off on a security plan the day beforehand.
	Now he's got a big job.
	Okay.
	And he has to delegate or else you won't be able to protect Donald Trump adequately.
	He's in the inner circle.
	So he was Donald Trump's chief of his detail.
	So he's with them at every moment.
	That's why they have such a strong relationship.
	And that's why he was chosen for this job.
	But often it's a mistake to choose the Secret Service agent you're closest with because then you get conflicts of interest.
	You're more motivated.
	It was current motivated by wanting to be the next director and not push back on anything that the campaign said, like we need large equipment there.
	So who signed off on that?
	So you can't tell me that my sources in the Secret Service who are just incensed about this.
	So I call bullshit on that.
	I call bullshit on the fact that this young agent made that decision to cave to the campaign staff over the farm equipment without talking to her supervisor, Nick Menster, who now is at the Eric and Laura Trump detail.
	But they seem fine with having him there, you know?
	So I would not want someone who shirked his duties like it's spelled out in these reports.
	This is not just my reporting now.
	It was before these Senate transcripts came out and the Senate reports came out.
	But now I was like, I know it was a solemn day for most people and I recognized that on Sunday.
	It was a terrible commemoration of a terrible, horrific day in our history.
	Thank God Donald Trump survived, but Corey Comparatory did not.
	And I, but I was looking at the reports going, this is Christmas in July for me.
	I gold mine.
	It's exactly what I thought was going on.
	Yeah.
	No, it's on the one hand, vindication of your reporting, which I remember was being contradicted or denied at the time.
	Kim Cheadle, the sloped roof argument.
	Yeah.
	And I love the way you say it because nobody wants to get sued for defamation.
	And the report concludes that Kim Cheadle lied to Congress.
	The sloped roof.
	Did she just pull that out of her proverbial tuchus?
	Where did that excuse come from?
	I'm told, it seems like it did.
	And she got basically, that was the reason why she was forced to resign.
	That itself, because the memes were just hilarious.
	One of the patches says, Santa, it's like a military, it looks like a military patch that they made, Secret Service or military made or some aficionados, said, Santa Claus, slope roof, certified.
	Yes, Santa Claus has a gun.
	So where did that come from?
	So I'm told that they can't really, they have this interesting relationship with the local law enforcement.
	They need them.
	They depend on them, especially when they're stretched thin during the campaign season.
	So they can't, but they can't force them to cover a building.
	They can't force them up on a hot tin roof.
	They can't force them to cover us to be on the sloped roof.
	Okay.
	That's where that's coming from.
	But if that's the case, then request more counter snipers, right?
	We need or something to block.
	I mean, I put up visual barriers.
	So it seems the campaign is asking for things that put Trump at risk.
	Secret Service is not denying it.
	And they're not providing what is necessary to make it possible.
	So like everyone is just basically saying, you're up.
	We're taking our chances with your life, President Trump, because we want this to be visually nice.
	And they're not giving us what we need.
	That's basically from the campaign to Secret Service to local law enforcement.
	Everybody's like, Basically, screw it.
	We'll take our chances.
	Well, I think that there is this idea, and Congress has backed this up.
	And the Independent Review Board, they said their investigations say there's this idea in Secret Service not to speak up.
	Okay, if you see something, say something.
	That's not part of the Secret Service culture.
	It's like we have a process and we're not being aggressive.
	And there was too much deference paid to Donald Trump's, the optics, the campaign optics.
	And no, if you see a problem here, you need to speak up.
	And this has to do with, I think, the culture of the Secret Service, not wanting to, the supervisors not speaking up is because the supervisors, once you get into senior management, you want to keep going, right?
	You're already committed 15 years to the Secret Service.
	So you want to keep your, you want to keep on the track, the career track.
	So you don't want to rock the boat.
	There's just, it's, and there is a culture of corruption in the Secret Service that the senior members look out for one another, especially if you were on the counter assault team.
	If you were on the counter assault team, you get a pass on a lot of stuff.
	And we saw that during the Obama administration years.
	There's a lot of, you know, not improper stuff that goes on in the Secret Service.
	I've got, you saw the other day what was going.
	I don't know if you saw that Project Veritas.
	Did you see that?
	I did, but refresh my memory.
	Oh, geez.
	So this was not a surprise to me at all because the hiring has been lowered because there's low morale, been lower morale at the Secret Service since that big prostitution scandal in 2012.
	So they've been having hiring and retention problems.
	So they have to lower their standards.
	And they don't even have a mental health screening, if you can believe that, Secret Service.
	But so this guy, Project Veritas, led a sting against a Secret Service Uniform Division guy at the White House.
	They're like the police of the White House.
	And this guy was texting an undercover woman, young woman, seemed like, and saying, hey, why don't you stop by the Secret Service?
	Why don't you stop by the White House?
	This is where I work.
	Take a snapshot.
	Look at me.
	And invited her to come over and said he could get her in to the White House.
	You have to have your Social Security ran by the way.
	Yeah.
	When I went there for a podcast row, they did a background check on me.
	Oh my goodness.
	No, that was not the story I was thinking of.
	I hadn't heard that.
	So basically, holy, so you, and if, and if it's like, say, an Iranian spy that wants to do something nefarious, if it's just a psychopath or if it's, oh, just, oh my, it's amazing what what's, what people will do for sex.
	I don't understand it.
	Like every video that Project Veritas gets, it's somebody trying to hook up doing something amazingly stupid.
	Yes, so true.
	So true.
	Not, but you know, it wasn't a surprise to me because the DEI policies, we haven't even gotten into that, but the DEI, the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheeto pushed this DEI, and it was all of Biden.
	Biden had an executive director that was the opposite, executive order that was the opposite of Trump's executive order on DEI.
	He said, you know, you got to make this priority number one, DEI, across the federal government.
	And Kimberly Cheeto wanted 30% women in the Secret Service by the year 2030.
	She signed on to a national pledge.
	And what I'm told is she got 24% by the time she left.
	And, you know, if you can do it, if you have the strength and the commitment and you prove yourself as a woman, far be it from me to say no.
	But it should be based on merit.
	And we had, like I reported a month or so ago, a huge cat fight outside of the President Obama's residence between two female agents.
	And they were saying on the radio, one of the supervisor agent that was getting into a fight said, I'm going to open, I'm going to, you better get her, get a supervisor down here, one of my superiors, because I'm going to whoop this girl's ass.
	So she said, about another eight, about another agent.
	It's, there's so many jokes and I can know where the internet is going to go with that.
	That, that story I remember.
	So let me ask you this then.
	Corey, we sell it.
	We remember July 13 as though it was only the day that Trump survived.
	So, you know, by that miracle, you know, sanctions, what did they get?
	42 days, unpaid administrative leave and someone got 10 days.
	We sort of forget or don't fully appreciate that a man was murdered.
	And from that family's perspective, for them to sit there and listen, even to Trump say, yeah, I'm satisfied with the answers, but, you know, they should add someone on the roof.
	Yeah, I'm satisfied with the answers, but they should add communications between local law enforcement and secret service.
	They had a bad day.
	If I'm the comparator family, I'm livid.
	I'm enraged, incensed with the government, and certainly with the outcome of that, which says, yeah, we're going to implement 62 policy changes, which are as common sense as like Boy Scouts would have known had they never had a day of training in their lives.
	Have you been in touch with the Comparator family?
	If you're allowed to tell me?
	Yeah, no, I have not.
	I have been, you know, I respect privacy and I have focused my energy.
	That's not where I really wanted to go.
	I don't, I wanted to go where my sources were leading me, pulling the string.
	And that was about the layers of incompetence within the Secret Service.
	I'm not so much of a reporter who I think at the Fox News, certainly what their feelings are legitimate, but it's not going to help my reporting to get into the emotional response to the problems, right?
	I want to know why the problems occurred.
	And I loved her interviews.
	I think, you know, she was speaking.
	I felt like I was have been a voice in the wilderness on this.
	And sometimes people thought like, well, why are you so adamant about this?
	It's because I know too much.
	And why aren't you?
	Why aren't you outraged about this?
	And I know at first they were, people were, but it started to wane, I would say, during the inauguration.
	You know, over Christmas, it waned.
	And we know, though, that at Christmas, I reported this.
	It was still on Donald Trump's mind.
	He had a Christmas party.
	You may have read this in my short coverage.
	A Christmas party at Mar-a-Lago with the Secret Service.
	And some of them, they were all there.
	Most of the detail was there because, you know, the president was going to be there.
	But Nio Perez, the site agent that I told you was very unserious, agent party or posting from her assignments on social media.
	He said, there's someone that's not here.
	It's obvious that she's not here.
	And there's a reason for that.
	I don't want her anywhere near me.
	That's Donald Trump.
	He was still angry and upset about that situation.
	And he did not want her anywhere near him.
	Well, you know what I would say to Donald Trump and to Helen, comparatory?
	The supervisors were also, they were supposed to be there to provide the layers of oversight.
	Why aren't you mad at them?
	And why are they getting off scot-free?
	And why are they getting promotions out of this?
	The one thing I don't understand, I'll never understand it because it doesn't make sense.
	There was a solid two minutes and three seconds when the kid was on the roof, getting on the roof, had a gun, screaming, coughed or getting involved.
	And there's no line of communication for immediate cover of the president on the stage.
	I mean, am I being unreasonable in thinking that that's unacceptable?
	Like walkie-talkies, immediate shelter and cover?
	Like, how does that happen?
	What was the excuse for that?
	So, okay, the hero of the day, the counter sniper, his name is David King, who took the kill shot for Thomas Crooks.
	He had to swing his rifle over to take that shot because the other counter sniper that should have had the better shot, it was obscured by trees.
	Because their plan was a wreck.
	The countersniper plan is separate from the other plan, but they only had two days because they were dropped in two days before.
	So I sort of give them a slight pass, but they should have known that, the supervisor.
	So David King, they asked him, the congressional investigator said, why didn't you got a picture of Thomas Crookes on your phone?
	Or yeah, he had a picture of him from the local law enforcement.
	It finally got to him, got to him late, got to him at 5.45.
	You had a picture.
	Why didn't you immediately contact Sean Curran, who was in the inner ring of the stage?
	Why don't you contact the shift?
	They call it the shift, the inner ring that was protecting him and tell them not to pull Donald Trump onto the stage.
	Well, this is the response of the supposed hero of the day.
	Well, there were other people to do that.
	I didn't need to do that.
	I mean, read the congressional testimony.
	I put it out in a tweet on Sunday.
	It just seems like it's not my fault.
	It's not my fault.
	It's not my responsibility.
	He was keeping eye trying to find Thomas Crooks to his credit, and he did shoot him.
	Okay.
	It doesn't.
	I mean, nobody wants to interrupt a good rally.
	They know that there's a threat on the loose.
	Take him off stage.
	Cover him.
	The idea that like the iconic photo, and everyone gives credit to the Secret Service for jumping on Trump after the shots were off, but in any other universe, they're lying on a body.
	They're not lying on a human anymore.
	And it's not because of what they did that he survived.
	It's despite what they didn't do.
	Okay.
	What are the politics of all the players in here?
	Okay, so we got like, what are the political leanings of these Secret Service employees?
	Do you have any indication of it other than Cheadle?
	Well, Ron Rowe went to go work for Michael Chertoff.
	So that's very swampy.
	That was just in the last, I wrote that story this past weekend.
	That's going to be a lucrative job for him.
	How nice, right?
	How nice that he gets to do that, even though he denied Trump assets.
	Now, you know, Michael Chertoff.
	He was Bush, George W. Bush's second Homeland Security Secretary.
	So the second in existence.
	Then he worked for Obama.
	So, you know, it's a swampy type of individual.
	You know, he has an established career, but it's going to be lucrative, lucrative job for Ron Roe.
	Why would you hire Ron Roe after his failures?
	I just don't.
	I just don't understand that.
	So Ron Roe was selected by Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
	We know Mayorkas is a big Biden guy, you know, obviously.
	Mayorkis is a treasonous dog who belongs in jail as far as I'm concerned.
	Sorry to get more political if you didn't want to go there.
	He's facilitated the invasion of America and deserves to be in jail.
	I would endorse that.
	I would be fine endorsing that.
	And lied about it repeatedly.
	So that's who selected Ron Roe.
	Okay.
	So at the top level, we're talking about Biden people.
	We're talking about swampy people.
	And then when you get down to Sean Curran, he's really close with Donald Trump.
	I have no doubt that he cares about his security.
	Okay.
	But like Dan Bongino said before he was selected, when I was reporting and others were reporting, who was in the mix?
	It was Bongino and Sean Curran.
	And I mentioned one other, a hero from 9-11 who was a Marine, who was a former Secret Service agent.
	But it was really Dan and Sean.
	So Sean, Dan said, you know, it doesn't matter if he's close to Trump.
	He's not the right person for the job.
	He's not a change agent.
	He's a company man.
	You know, he's a guy that made his way up in the ranks.
	You don't make your way up in the ranks of the Secret Service by ruffling feathers.
	I'm telling you that much.
	And he is not this guy that's going to have a big enough personality to institute the kind of changes that we need at the Secret Service.
	Now you see Dan, you know, he's ruffling feathers over at the FBI.
	And, you know, we'll see what the outcome of that is.
	You know, hopefully it's for the right reasons.
	And hopefully we're going to see some of those upsteam files after this, you know, the threats that were going on last week that he was going to resign and he was taking time off to think About it, unless Bondi produced the goods or at least some more goods.
	There's no more goods.
	We were told it's a big hoax now.
	Anything they produce is going to be tainted.
	I'm being glued.
	I mean, you cannot say, and I've said this before, even Dan, I even slightly criticized Dan and Cash Patel because they came out there and they even said, Dan has said that there's a loan, that Thomas Brooks acted alone.
	Okay.
	He said in the same interview that he said that Epstein was a suicide.
	Okay.
	Well, you got to tell.
	You can't just tell.
	You have to show.
	I mean, that's a basic principle of journalism and story write and creative writing.
	You can't just say, tell people, the American people, there's no, they're there.
	You have to show why we should agree with that, right?
	That's the American way.
	We need to know what happened.
	And so, you know, and in the same capacity, I just don't think that Sean, I agree with Dan.
	I beg for, why have we not had a press conference laying out the reforms that the Secret Service has wants to unveil?
	It's been working on.
	I mean, at the very least, the very least.
	I think because if you have a press conference to unveil those improvements, people are going to say, what the hell was the Secret Service doing the day before yesterday?
	Like the recommendations in that report are so basic, it's stupid and unbelievable that they were not already implemented and adhered to to a TA.
	They're basic common sense.
	And they're like, what the hell?
	What were they spending money on?
	Like, what was Secret Service doing, if not what the improvements are intended to be?
	We're going to get a drone in the sky.
	We're going to have better counter snipers.
	I'm saying, what the hell were you doing before that?
	Okay, now, you have only a few minutes left, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Crooks, acting alone.
	Some people are going to say he did act alone because, you know, law enforcement never intervened.
	This is a kid who was weird by all accounts, was training with firearms at a range that had lots of, I think, FBI and local law enforcement training at this shooting range.
	They haven't found any ties to Iran.
	They haven't found any ties to anybody else, as far as I know as of now.
	Has there been any explanation for why, not that I should expect the, you know, the impossible from people, but a weird loner kid frequenting a shooting range on holidays many times a year.
	Nobody noticed it.
	Nobody said anything.
	Has there been any investigation into that?
	I'm sure there has by the FBI, but they're not talking about it.
	And Senator Rand Paul mentioned this at the conclusion of his report.
	He said there was a glimpse of cooperation with the FBI in February.
	When we had an initial meeting with them, his staffers did.
	But then nothing stonewalling ever since, since February.
	Now, the FBI has been drinking from a fire hose, the leader's there, and they have other controversies.
	But you think they would care about who this guy is.
	And I'm sure they do care.
	And I'm sure Dan has gone over those in cash.
	But why haven't you shown the American public anything involved in his encrypted apps?
	Thomas Crooks had foreign encrypted apps, several on his multiple cell phones.
	I don't know if your viewers know this, but this could have been a mass murder situation because he had a detonator and he had the explosive devices, the IEDs that he had in his car.
	And some people were hypothesizing as to where a kid learns how to build an IED remote detonator.
	I mean, when we were kids, we had the anarchist cookbook.
	I think it's since gone online.
	But yeah, no, people were asking that question at the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And there was still some back in his bedroom that when if you look at some of the investigations, they'll show you that the FBI first went to his house and they found them.
	It's more in his bedroom.
	They had to lock down the house because they were so worried when they found the IEDs were there.
	They had to take the family out and lock down the whole neighborhood.
	But so it is, it just strains credulity to think that this guy, I don't know.
	It's hard for me to say, I'm a journalist, so I try to go with the evidence and I'll take the evidence wherever it goes.
	You know, I'll pull on that string as far as I can.
	But he knew the place.
	He had cased the joint, the farm show, several days beforehand.
	He had flew a drone up that was undetected by the Secret Service.
	And so he knew exactly how to get on that air conditioner and get up on that roof.
	He knew exactly which one wasn't covered.
	And that, to me, is frightening.
	That to me is either he's in a genius or he was acting with somebody else.
	It is a good point because despite the Pac-Man perimeter, you would have had to have known that that roof was the only unsecured one.
	And maybe he was smart enough to out to foil the terrible plan where he knows, hey, one roof, the best one, doesn't have anybody on it.
	So that's where I'll go after having had this idea to do it, pick that particular rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	Amazing.
	Have you received any blowback?
	I don't know, blowback or any sort of treatment from the government for pursuing this doggedly?
	Yes.
	I wouldn't say it's been anything I didn't expect.
	But they are watermarking emails now at the Secret Service so that if somehow somebody gives one to me, because they have in the past, they'll know who gave it to me.
	They are launching witch hunts against, try to find out who my sources are.
	They had an email threatening the entire Secret Service with talking with reporters, i.e.
	me.
	So yeah, I know what they're doing.
	They're spending an inordinate amount of time telling me, trying to ferret out my sources rather than demonstrating to the public that they have made these reforms and that they're serious about them.
	And or, and Sean Kern has given a lot of softball interviews.
	I'm sorry to say.
	One was with Lara Trump, another with Sean Hannity.
	Sean Hannity talked the most of the time.
	You know, he didn't get to, there was no any hard questions because you have to know this stuff.
	You have to have delved into it and have sources deeply rooted in the Secret Service to know which questions to ask.
	And, you know, I give a lot of credit to the Rand Paul investigators, but why did it take seven months this year to get that?
	Do you know, this is an interesting thing about Sean Curran.
	So they subpoenaed, they had to subpoena the suspension records from the Secret Service, and they subpoenaed them on July 1st.
	And that's the only reason why we know there were six people suspended.
	That's the only reason why.
	Because Rand Paul was doing his job, but he was doing it really late.
	I don't know why Senator Johnson sent out a subpoena last Friday, waited.
	I love the fact that he did to the FBI.
	But why did he wait till the Friday before the one-year anniversary to do it?
	I don't get that.
	This is, I mean, one could argue that this looks like a little bit of lack of transparency or they were trying to sweep under the rug the patheticness of the reprimands on those responsible and the elevating of those who are even more responsible but didn't get spanked or slapped on the wrist.
	The thing is, like, this is under the Trump administration.
	The question would be, why on God's greed earth would there not be some sort of like, not witch hunt, but mission to weed this out so that it never happens again under Trump's administration?
	Are, you know, is there like a deep state element within the Secret Service or is it just, you know, bureaucracy administrative bloat waste incompetence?
	I would think, I mean, deep state meaning an anti-Trump feeling.
	Yeah, like, well, I'm even floating the anti-Trump sentiment.
	Like, if you look at the FBI and it's got 33,000 employees, and if you say 75% are vehemently anti-Trump, like what element, what dynamic of that nature exists within the Secret Service?
	I don't think that is as big of a deal.
	It was during the Biden years.
	I think now, well, they laid off all the DEI employees.
	So they're on administrative leave, although Sean wouldn't tell me what happened to them.
	I asked the Secret Service last week, what's going on with these DEI guys?
	There was dozens of them.
	If you would not believe the website, how it was rainbow-colored website, internal website, that they serve the DEI purposes.
	Like, if you ever have any problem, if you feel like you're being discriminated against in any way, we're here to help.
	And they sent, as you know, I think you probably saw this, but they sent people at the height of the campaign after the assassination attempts, they were sending people to Disneyland for an LGBTQ plus out and pride and proud, out and proud or something like that summit.
	And then I put that out there.
	So they limited the amount that the people that could go to just admin people.
	But they still sent them.
	They still use our taxpayer dollars to send them there.
	So yeah, I just don't, I think Sean Kern's in cleanup mode from the last administration.
	There's still trans agents on the job that they're giving special privileges to.
	And I asked, hey, hey, is Sean still believe that there should be trans agents in the Secret Service that you're, that if they are giving special privileges to you in accommodations, that if you're like a female agent, you want to be, you identify as a man, then you, they were asked that they only have to adhere to the female standards, the PT standards or training standards, and they were allotted that.
	I mean, this is happening under his leadership.
	So, you know, either he doesn't know about it because it's so far removed, but I asked about it and I don't get answers.
	I don't.
	On the one hand, it's like they want to conceal the, it feels like they want to conceal the incompetence.
	If I'm trying to be charitable, maybe they don't want to put it on blast so that people don't know just how incompetent the secrets.
	When they were having those committee hearings after the July 13 assassination attempt, I'm like, this is putting on blast.
	It's a public advertisement to any would-be assassin that this is how insanely incompetent Secret Service is.
	And if you're Iran, you're like, we didn't know it would be this easy.
	Maybe we'll, you know, now we know the weaknesses.
	And sad.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't want to mean to laugh.
	I don't mean to smile.
	No, but you either laugh or you cry because it's inexcusable, incompetent.
	And now, you know, a year later, slap on the wrist for six agents.
	And, you know, like, keep going back to compromitors.
	I'm like, you should be livid if this is what you see as the consequences and a call to action from that incompetence that led to Corey being murdered.
	Yeah, I just hope that there's like a raising of the problem is there's so much low, the morale has been shot at the Secret Service.
	So now they even hiring additional people has been difficult with retention bonuses of like 50 grand.
	So they're offering all these bonuses, but they're only getting people that 30% now don't have a college degree.
	Not that a college degree is the be all end all, but we want, we want a stellar, we want the best of the best, right?
	So all FBI agents have a college degree.
	So now 30% of the incoming class don't have one.
	And a lot of them are washing out of the class, not either washing out, they're hiring.
	I've been told, if you look at the change.org petition that I've been pushing out on my Twitter, there's an internal petition that's going on in Secret Service calling for more accountability and saying, well, Sharon Curran is the right man for this job.
	So I'm sure he hates me for putting that on my x.com.
	But that's coming from agents within the Secret Service.
	So as part of that, they show that some of the classmates, the new incoming recruits are obese.
	Some of them have mental health issues and there's no mental health screening.
	You know, and a lot of agents now, the senior agents, especially, I'll say male and female, senior agents, there's been a talent drain, a brain drain, because after this debacle, they wanted to go out.
	They wanted to leave.
	They're just sick of it, the cultural problems of the Secret Service.
	So they go to the drug enforcement agency or they retire.
	Is this your petition or the petition?
	It's not mine.
	It's, you know, it's certainly not mine, but it's something that I have covered and shared on my exile.
	No, sorry, I didn't mean it in an accusatory sense.
	I'll just give everybody the link.
	Well, I will tell you, they accused me of that, of working with one of the agents that is involved in that.
	And I don't even know who wrote it to be honest.
	I mean, I do not know to this day.
	Now, I know people who support it, who signed on to it, and who shared it with me, but I do not know the agent who wrote that.
	And they believe I'm working hand in glove with that agent.
	I'm not.
	I'm not.
	Susan, you're doing amazing work.
	The book, your book is Fool's Gold.
	Yes.
	I've given everybody the Amazon affiliate link.
	So is there another place where, do you have a website where it's, I don't know, people sometimes, okay, what's the way?
	Well, email me the website afterwards.
	I'll put it in the pinned comment.
	But for now, I'll give it to everybody here.
	You're doing amazing work.
	And I hope we can do this again when there's a follow-up because the response has been farcical.
	And I'm convinced this was a let it happen on purpose.
	And we still don't know very much about Crooks, what was on his encrypted accounts, what was on why he had multiple phones.
	So I think we're going to, there's a whole new chapter of the story that's going to come out sooner than later.
	So I'm sure you're going to be on it.
	Susan, you're on X. What's your, I'll put it again up in the pin, but your X account is Susan Crabtree.
	That is S-U-S-A-N Crabtree at Susan Crabtree.
	Susan, thank you very much for coming on.
	Oh, it's my pleasure.
	Thanks for keeping on this.
	You are an outstanding interview, by the way, and I've enjoyed it immensely.
	Ordinarily, I would get into childhood, but I didn't know how much time we had.
	I need to see how people, people's origin story, but no, this was too much.
	We need to get into the flesh of this.
	So if you can come back on later, we can do this again, do some follow-ups as the situation progresses.
	Sure thing.
	You've got it.
	Thank you very much.
	Have a good one.
	That was amazing, people.
	Holy crap, apples.
	I've gone over time in terms of, we're going to go raid redacted in a second, but let me just read a couple of the tipped questions over on VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
	We got, let's see if we'll hear Jelene part of this story.
	Jeffrey Epstein, Jolaine Maxwell Trump.
	Okay, I'm going to see what that is in a second.
	And then reaction by law enforcement.
	This is from Roostang.
	When Crooks was pointed out by many onlookers before he shot, they knew he was there for, God, they knew that he was there with a rangefinder, not just for two minutes before, but for an extended period of time.
	But maybe it was just binoculars.
	You know, he just wanted to get a good view and know how many yards away it was.
	Somehow seemed slow, lacked urgency.
	Was there a bigger disconnect between local law enforcement and the Secret Service than first reported?
	Okay, we got to that question in terms of what the excuse was for why they didn't respond fast enough.
	They didn't have a direct line between local law enforcement and secret service.
	And then we got Ginger Ninja, who made the chessboard behind me, member of our local community.
	He's got his own channel.
	When the Dems take Congress in 26 and Trump gets impeached again, I'll make sure to say that's a made-up hoax by the Dems.
	I don't know why you care about this boring topic, Donald.
	I was corrected earlier in that in order for Trump to be impeached and convicted, it requires 67 votes.
	So there'd have to be a massive swing in the Senate, but it's still, it's possible, depending on the size of the loss.
	What was it?
	So they're at 53 seats to 47.
	They'd have to lose a lot in the Senate for it to be a clear party line conviction on an impeachment.
	But my goodness, are we flirting with disaster?
	Ta Heit says, agreed.
	I'm not sure to what.
	I clean rugs for a living.
	It's not gross.
	719.
	Oh, rug sucker.
	No, cleaning rugs.
	By the way, I just spat on my computer.
	Cleaning rugs is among the most satisfying stuff to watch on earth.
	There's a whole sub-fetish of videos on YouTube where they deliberately dirty the rug and then they go, it's so satisfying to watch.
	But rugs get filthy and disgusting, which is why we don't have any in our house because we have two, well, two special needs dogs, one who shits and pisses all over the place and the other one who just occasionally does.
	T.I. says, I have criticized Jorin Barnes' admonishment of Trump.
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you.
	We got that.
	Okay, what we're going to do, we are going to go raid redacted.
	I hope they're still on.
	They are.
	Okay, let's go raid redacted because I'm supposed to have done this a little while ago and come to Viva Barnes Law.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Come to vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	We're on StreamYard again, so there's no paywall today.
	Come on, have one, humal.
	There you go.
	Bada bing, bada boom, link.
	Come to locals, vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Otherwise, go raid the redacted because they are a good show.
	I was on with them yesterday, and they do good work.
	Raid redacted.
	Let them know from whence you came and let it drop a viva raid in there.
	What I like to do is go over to the channel.
	Watch this.
	Let's go like this.
	It's going to be like this.
	It's going to go like this.
	Go like this.
	Hey, no, no, no.
	Right over here.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	Now we say Viva has raided the stream.
	Viva raid booyah.
	That's not how you spell booya.
	Boo ya.
	Bada bing.
	Hey, viva.
	All right, there we go.
	Viva raid, booya.
	And that's it.
	Let's go to locals, people.
	Viva Barneslaw Dog here.
	You know what it is.
	I'll see you what day is I say.
	It's Wednesday.
	Oh, yeah.
	Tomorrow, Mike Benz coming on.
	We're going to talk more about Epstein, but from what he believes to be the intelligence angle of it, it's going to be amazing.
	And Friday, Vince from the Vince show is coming on.
	So it's going to be great stuff.
	Rumble.
	See you later.
	Well, this is no.
	See you later, Twitter.
	Bye-bye.
	And bye-bye.
	And now on Hrumble, we are also going bye-bye.
	Come on over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com.

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