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June 6, 2025 - Viva & Barnes

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Live with Sam Cooper! Mexican Cartels Making Drugs in Canada? Elon Musk Feud FALLOUT! & More!

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	They're like, we don't make fentanyl.
	They're right.
	They don't.
	They just give you all the ingredients for it and ship it to Mexico.
	And then what they did was to trick the world.
	They came out and said, Hey, we're going to not sell precursor X. They're like, so now we're out of the fentanyl trade entirely.
	The problem is, So what we did when I got to the bureau is we stood up this massive enterprise to go after fentanyl precursor companies in mainland China.
	And they're probably not going to like that.
	And what they're doing now to get cute is they're shipping that stuff not straight to here.
	They're going to places like India, and I'm also doing operations in India.
	And they're having the Mexican cartels now make this fentanyl down in Mexico still.
	Instead of going right up the southern border and into America, you know what they're doing?
	They're flying it into Vancouver.
	They're taking the precursors up to Canada, manufacturing it up there, and doing their global distribution routes from up there because we were being so effective down south.
	It's almost like Kash Patel knew who the guest for today's show was before he went on with Rogan to talk about the FBI's war on fentanyl.
	Let me share this clip with everybody.
	Before we get into today's show, I haven't yet gone through the entire thing.
	I've seen some clips of Kash Patel who was just on Rogan or was on Rogan and they just published the episode.
	And I'm going to listen to it with extreme interest as I go for my afternoon jog.
	I don't listen to stuff when I go for a bike ride because I need to pay attention to gators and bobcats.
	I'm going to listen to this because I saw some clips.
	We're going to maybe play one a little later with Royce Lopez, who posted a clip about But on the fentanyl stuff, I've gotten into it.
	It sounds like they're doing amazing stuff, big stuff.
	I listened to a little bit of what Patel said after that, and I'm not sure I agree with it, where Cash was talking about how China might be using the fentanyl crisis as biological warfare against America specifically.
	It felt like Cash was either not aware of the fentanyl overdoses in Canada, which are wildly out of control, insofar as he's from an American-centric perspective, but didn't seem to have full awareness of how much death and destruction fentanyl is causing in Canada.
	He was under the impression or said it's not so bad in Australia, the Five Eyes.
	I don't know about Australia.
	I'm going to ask our guest, Sam Cooper.
	But I know it's over the top in Canada.
	600-plus people dying a month from opioid overdoses.
	Monthly, 80% of that is related to fentanyl.
	All that to say, Kash Patel describing what the problem is, what I've been saying for a while, because of the big brain of Sam Cooper, who I'm going to pick today, Canada has become a national security threat to these United States of America.
	For those of you who are dying to hear about what's going on with the Elon beef, going to get into it afterwards.
	But when Sam says he's available...
	I'm not going to talk about myself in the third person.
	Sam is amazing.
	If you don't know him, he's a Canadian journalist covering China, fentanyl, drug trade, scandals in Canada.
	I still wonder how he's on the air.
	I don't want to jinx anything.
	Sam, I'm going to bring you in.
	You'll introduce yourself.
	Everybody?
	Sam Cooper, man of the hour.
	Sir, how goes the battle?
	I'm great, Viva.
	It's always great to talk to you and be back today.
	Dude, well, every time you're on, I get smarter.
	I hope other people get smarter.
	And I retain what you say because it's so flipping insane.
	For those who don't know, just give the 30,000-foot overview as to who you are.
	I started as a journalist in Vancouver around 2008.
	and I literally grew up in what the middle of what I now know is essentially a hybrid sentinel war.
	And so your opener, Let's put it this way.
	I think I'm aware of the people he talks to in U.S. intelligence.
	But I cut my teeth on just the devastation in Vancouver.
	So thousands started dying per year around 2014 when that fentanyl And as Cash said, as soon as, you know, Trump and Biden started to crack down on China and say, hey, you got to stop that, they decentralized their production even more, sending literally factory pieces, pill presses, dyes, you know.
	Fentanyl Labs across the Vancouver area and in Mexico.
	It wasn't known, you know, everyone knew that Mexico was hardcore narco territory, but I grew up as a reporter in the city where Vancouver was being taken over by Asian organized crime.
	And, you know, I started to make such impact that around 2017-2018, people in the U.S. government reached out to me and they literally said, we need to have coffee.
	I suppose, yeah, if you want to say that.
	I'm linked to the State Department or CIA.
	That should be about right.
	And they're saying, you're damn right.
	China is getting a footprint we're concerned about in the real estate, in the organized crime, in the political influence, and in the narcotics activity in Vancouver.
	And so really my career has been finding out how sophisticated organized crime runs through the corruption, runs through banks, runs through law offices, and in a nutshell, So explain this.
	First of all, let's just say all the way to the back.
	And first of all, I'll just say you're wearing the Bureau hat.
	TheBureau.new is your website.
	I'm going to pull up the article that you just wrote on the cartel and how they're using indigenous land, native land, Indian land, reservations up in Canada for the drug manufacturing.
	When did...
	Because it's like a relatively new word, like new-ish, five to eight years.
	But when did the fentanyl trade start in North America or start killing people in large swaths in North America?
	It really starts around 2013, 2014.
	This is when And they had been running the heroin into Mexico, into Vancouver, into American cities in complex ways.
	And they start to run the illicit fentanyl, you know, counterfeit OxyContin pills.
	And so the crisis was already rolling, you know, among the working class in America with West Virginia, these states where people got addicted to, you know, the real pharmaceutical opioids and then international organized crimes.
	So the cartels supplied at the highest level by China got into that trade and they start to run it in through labs.
	So in Vancouver, again, where I grew up, you know, as a reporter covering this on the street level and up to To the bank level and the political level, 2014 is that year, I'm going to get visual here, where the exponential death chart starts to go like this.
	And I think how I made my name is I wrote a book called Willful Blindness, matching that death curve with the Vancouver real estate prices.
	they were marching in lockstep, so it's money laundering through And, you know, Vancouver is death zone.
	It's literally third world conditions.
	If people travel up there, they'll visually see it.
	But now this is spreading to Canadian cities.
	And I know it's happening in the United States as well.
	This is from The Telegraph.
	I think the last time I pulled up an article that referred to Vancouver as the fentanyl capital is from the Guardian.
	But I remember East Hastings back in 2001, 2002, when I went there was...
	If you can explain this, I'm not sure if it's easy to explain.
	The death from overdoses starts to spike with fentanyl in particular.
	There's always been a drug trade problem, but the ODs from heroin and other illicit drugs didn't match the same death rate from fentanyl because of its toxicity.
	What accounts for the shift in the nature of the illicit drugs from a standard heroin?
	Well, it's really about, first to answer your question, fentanyl is 40 times more potent than heroin.
	So Vancouver, you know, Skid Row, East Hastings had a heroin problem from the 90s.
	Documents in my book.
	This is when Chinese organized crime moves in in a big way in the late 80s into Vancouver and Toronto.
	And so there's a major heroin problem.
	And it's known around the world in Vancouver.
	But in 2014, this is the exact year when fentanyl really starts to be introduced both into the heroin supply and into simply pills.
	You know, the price goes down.
	But what I want to stress is Chinese organized crime.
	Had already been, you know, running methamphetamine, ecstasy, through Vancouver as a hub, just the same as they are working with the Mexican cartels in Mexico to run synthetic opioids through.
	So you know the series The Narcos is all about cocaine from Colombia, Pablo Escobar, and how the Mexican cartels take that over.
	There's two series about that, you know, that progression.
	What I'm documenting is how the Chinese Communist Party is now the third wave, and the more powerful wave, injecting synthetics into uppers, methamphetamine, and downers, the opioids.
	And that's the drug war we're experiencing right now, and it's strategic on China's part.
	I know that's cutting edge, but it's starting to be understood, I think, more widely, of course, in the U.S. government, and I hope in the population.
	I mean, that's part and parcel of the question.
	It's like, you know, when the Escobars are into the drug trade, they don't want to kill their clients.
	They want to give them a drug, get them addicted, but not kill them.
	It's better for business to be cynical.
	What I don't understand is fentanyl almost seems designed to kill.
	And if that's the case, it seems like a bad business model if it's intended to be a business model, but a good political geostrategic model if it's intended to be something else.
	sort of insights into the intention behind China's involvement in the fentanyl crisis, because from what I understand it's not lucrative, unless I'm wrong on that.
	Well, I mean, the fentanyl itself can just amplify the amount...
	of course it's so powerful that you...
	You toss a few specks of this into the vat that you're mixing up heroin in, and you can just amplify the amount of heroin that you're dealing.
	The same thing.
	You can, as they say, step on or cut up cocaine.
	I believe it's being laced even into cannabis.
	You can just get wild with any amount of drugs to make them more powerful.
	So it is profitable to China, who's producing those precursors.
	This is a big part of their GDP.
	To the point of the hybrid drug warfare, yeah, I think to take a step back a little bit, a lot of people are saying, you know, President Trump, Kash Patel, this is all disinformation.
	They just want to, you know, slam Mexico, Canada, China.
	No, my data point is this.
	President Biden's Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, went up to Canada, Vancouver.
	In 2023, and talked to a mayor that was the only voice getting tough on the fentanyl crisis in British Columbia, and he said, Mayor Brad West, I'm glad.
	Can we work together?
	Canada is a big part of the problem.
	Canada lacks organized crime laws.
	And Brad West shared with me, as I've written on the Bureau, Antony Blinken told him, The US government at a high level knows.
	The Chinese Communist Party is working with the cartels, and there's a shared objective there.
	The objective of the cartels, of course, is power and profit.
	The Chinese Communist Party, power, profit, and destruction of social systems in North America.
	That is, I asked Brad West, you're telling me that a senior US official said China wants North Americans to suffer from fentanyl.
	Brad West shook his head yes.
	So, yeah, this is coming from the highest levels of US intelligence and government.
	This is intentional on China's part.
	If you think about it, yeah, we're getting very close to war, as the head of the Pentagon said last week, I believe.
	You know, China's designs on Taiwan could be imminent.
	They're already deep in American critical infrastructure in war planning for that event.
	And, you know, the capacity here is they want to suck our health care away, dollars away.
	They want police to be, you know, overspent.
	They want to see people dying.
	They want to see people in hospitals.
	They want to see social cohesion being pulled apart.
	So I do think, I believe an American government at the high level say this is strategic on Beijing's part.
	I'm laughing only because it's like a black pill laugh, because whenever I talk with you, I get an impending sense of doom.
	That's even more extreme than normal.
	Let me ask you this.
	We see the image.
	This is, in fact, not an exaggerated display of what would be a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl, like that amount of substance.
	A speck, literally a speck of this stuff, you know, that goes into what they call a hot pill or, you know, a pill that has too much of it in it can kill.
	And Viva, I'll take the moment.
	I know that when we talked before, I told you about that Danforth shooting case and how there were...
	Since talking to you, I further confirmed from a senior DEA source that reached out to me and said, oh yeah, the American government found some concerning links in Pakistan to the family where 40 kilograms of carfentanil was seized in Toronto.
	And two things going on here.
	The Canadian government didn't want to work with the DEA.
	They didn't want to share a sample of that carfentanil, and the American government was What could be a bioweapon?
	Yeah, let me refresh everybody's memory for those who don't know who are not Canadian.
	Mass shooting occurred on Danforth Avenue.
	It was some guy whose name I didn't even really piece together until afterwards.
	But his name was Faisal Hussein.
	Killed two people, wounded 13 others, etc, etc.
	Now, I believe, if I go carfentanil, was it his brother that was found in a coma?
	His brother in a suburban home just outside Toronto got overdosed with carfentanil simply from handling those materials in the lab.
	You know, to go a little bit further, color on that story, my senior DEA source said they found in the lab local police that were a little bit cooperative found, you know, colorful food dye leading the DEA to believe this could have been marketed, you know, to give out to young people, youth.
	And so there was still the concern.
	in the American government that this could be a weapon of mass destruction.
	And I'll add this.
	For people that are saying, you know the argument that there's only data showing a small amount of fentanyl seizures at the northern border, people say President Trump is making this up.
	No, the DEA knew that they already had a case from Quebec where carfentanil was shipped in the mail to Atlanta, Georgia, and this is why they wanted a little bit of that seizure in Toronto to see if it matched up.
	People need to understand this.
	This was another one of the black pills that you exposed.
	We were all under the impression this was just a mass shooting of a guy named Faisal Hussein.
	I think that was his name.
	His brother was found in a coma with multiple kilograms of carfentanil.
	And let me bring up the article here because I don't think people know this.
	September, while Fahad was in a coma, fire crew responded to a carbon monoxide alarm at the Pickering home, alerted police of suspicious substance in the basement.
	They executed a warrant, found 33 guns, other prohibited devices, overcapacity magazines, and seized 53 kilograms of a substance identified as the deadly street drug carfentanil.
	So, what we thought might have been a lone mass shooting then leads to a family of crime.
	Then you say, okay, it's just two guys.
	Forget their origins and forget those demographics who might just be involved in crime.
	But 53 kilograms of carfentanil, and the accusation was that one brother, or sorry, the suspicion is that one brother who just partook in a mass shooting, his other brother might have been planning on using the 53 kilograms of carfentanil.
	I don't know how many people that can kill, but cloaking it in a way to kill mass amounts of people through drugs that might look like candies, like what Kash Patel was describing in the podcast.
	This is what the U.S. government and the DA feared.
	They didn't confirm that, but being good investigators, they feared that.
	And furthermore, ISIS came out after the brother did the shooting and said, this is a soldier of the Islamic State.
	And this story just, you talk about black pill.
	This was just whitewashed.
	And, you know, the Toronto police chief, Justin Trudeau's public safety minister.
	Came out and said, no national security links here.
	No potential terror links.
	And as I reported, the DEA wasn't convinced by that line from Canada.
	And, you know, they, to this day, I believe they're concerned that there absolutely could be direct or indirect, let's say, threat networks in Pakistan related.
	To those drugs related to that shooting.
	And Viva, as you know, look, in the years since when the Canadian media just went silent on this, there's been a number of ISIS cases popping up in the Toronto area, right?
	So you start to wonder, has the Canadian government been on top of that?
	And I'm afraid they haven't.
	It's even worse.
	Sam, it might not be good for my health to talk to you, but it might be good for my knowledge.
	I'm just going back and pulling up an article from 2018 USA Today.
	Islamic State claims Toronto shooting rampage.
	Police not convinced.
	And then we can go on here.
	Islamic State claimed responsibility Wednesday for the gunman's rampage in Toronto that killed two people and wounded 13. But Police Chief Mark Saunders said there was no evidence to support the declaration.
	Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forwards.
	So that was very likely, we'll tie it all together with the drug trade, that was very likely an act of mass terrorism or mass casualty event that the two brothers involved with the Islamic State and massive drug production and distribution were trying to kill many people and the Canadian government swept it under the rug despite the American government's acute interest in it.
	With regards to the carfentanil, I don't know whether this is strictly profit, whether this is profit and holding something that could be weaponized at a later date, but what I can tell you is DEA at the highest levels had those concerns.
	And furthermore, they, with their deep military intelligence level capacity, confirmed what I was told, a concerning link in Pakistan.
	And let's just step back from that.
	They wanted cooperation from the Canadian government to look deeper.
	And meanwhile, we have senior Canadian officials saying, no, no terror, nothing to see here.
	And Viva, I'll tell you, after I broke this story, Holy hell.
	Okay.
	Oh my goodness.
	And it all plays into the fact that there could only be a couple of reasons why the Canadian government would not be interested in it, why the Canadian authorities either have a stand-down order or are actively not looking into it.
	I guess it's going to dovetail into the manufacturing of fentanyl in Canada now.
	Your latest article, let me bring this up just so people can read the headline, I'm going to give it to them afterwards, is how the cartel is expanding operations into Canada using Indigenous reserves as factory hubs.
	And this brings us back to what Kash Patel was talking about.
	I'll share this with everybody, but tell us what the hell's going on to make us even more despaired about the state of affairs.
	I don't want to despair and gloom everyone.
	I don't think there's a silver lining here, except that my work is pushing for public policy changes, and these stories are hella interesting to read.
	So let's tell people that.
	They gotta dig into these stories.
	I can only share a little bit of the detail, but look.
	The Six Nations, so these are, you know, the Indigenous peoples, great Indigenous peoples who were there before, you know, Canada and the United States, sort of split up into North and South there along the 51st parallel.
	These nations on the New York, Ontario, Quebec border have their own jurisdictions, really.
	It crosses, you know, those two states.
	In that jurisdictional zone where there's a lot of First Nations self-governance, Mexican cartels, actually 170 known crime groups are set up on those lands.
	Why does that matter?
	Well, you know, you can guess.
	170 crime groups taking advantage of the First Nations people who are, you know, one.
	At times, a population that can be exploited for drug use.
	Two, will not always have the capacity to police the dangers around them.
	Three, they're the nefarious ones within those groups working with 170 crime groups to enrich themselves under the shield of this First Nations governance.
	So that means weapons trafficking, illegal tobacco plants of massive quantities.
	Being used by Chinese triads, Mexican cartels, using those lands as a shield.
	And so I broke the story that I could confirm a massive Ontario police anti-organized crime unit bust on one of these Six Nation reserves between Buffalo, New York and Hamilton, Ontario, cracked down on.
	A major illegal tobacco plant and you know at the concurrently there was a fentanyl bust the focus here wasn't fentanyl but my story Unpacked or connected the dots between Mexican cartels being at the top of the food chain, you know, working with the Hells Angels on the reserve and many crime groups and, you know, being behind that tobacco plant.
	And my sources indicate using similarly these lands and not just in, you know, Ontario and Quebec, but across Canada using First Nation.
	For, you know, the trafficking of narcotics, including fentanyl, weapons trafficking.
	And so that really fits into what Kash Patel says about Mexican cartels using Canada increasingly.
	You know, it's Western Canada, it's Eastern Canada, it's Northern Canada.
	Both Chinese Communist Party agents, remember, this is what Kash Patel said, and Mexican cartels are set up in the weak spots.
	And First Nations lands are one of those big weak spots for North America right now.
	Now, I don't know if you've ever delved into it or written about it.
	You know, we talk about the Indigenous missing women's crisis in Canada.
	Described also as a genocide that they tried to pin on white Europeans.
	Do you know if there's any connection between the outrageous amount of or disproportionate amount of indigenous women that go missing or get involved in very bad stuff and the drug trade?
	Well, I covered this in Vancouver deeply at the same time I was covering heroin, fentanyl, real estate corruption and money laundering, politics.
	And I think they all roll together at the end of the day.
	The story in Vancouver was that the worst of the worst, I would say, mostly what I know to be domestic biker gang types were, of course, you know, exploiting...
	we could say, you know, drug slaves, prostitution.
	And that is the major factor driving the deaths of mostly Indigenous women.
	An absolute, you know, tragedy is drug addiction and exploitation, I say.
	So are the cartels directly behind that?
	In my experience, probably the Hells Angels, you know, were the ones that were peripherally surrounding, you know, what's called the Willie Pickton massacre, where an egregious case where something like...
	And, you know, in the same type of area where you would find labs or super labs now, which is out in the Fraser Valley and further afields from Vancouver.
	So terrible.
	The Fraser Valley is so bloody beautiful.
	And the idea that, like, there are fentanyl super labs, which make, which destroy the small towns around it, I presume.
	A question from our locals community from Encryptus, who's in the backdrop.
	What about the fact that fentanyl can be a weapon for mass destruction when in powder form and in the air a single gram can kill hundreds of thousands?
	The quantity that is now available in a large quantity dropped from a drone could kill millions.
	Could that be the endgame here?
	Is that accurate or is that sufficiently accurate to say?
	I don't have the data on airborne you know, threats, how this could work.
	But stepping back, I do think that, look, I know, because I hear it from officials, that in sophisticated ways, fentanyl has been used to harm our populations in North America, to weaken the greatest This is happening.
	There are books called Unrestricted Warfare, or a book by Chinese generals where drug warfare is explained.
	So at this point, you know, Well, look at the agro-terrorism story.
	Agro-potential, what do they call it?
	Agro-terrorism with a fungal agro-terrorism coming from China, coming from scientists who are doing research and apparently smuggling in the tools of their research to a Michigan university.
	Look at that.
	look at, I compared that to the Winnipeg Lab story.
	I think we've talked about how some Chinese- So is fentanyl part of that?
	And does China have scientists ready to turn up the volume on opioids and either through dealing or straight weaponization use it?
	I don't have a document that says that, but I believe that's probably true.
	Just doing a quick search.
	Oh yeah, Encryptus, what's up?
	I can give you the data.
	So it's 0.011 micrograms per cubic meter of air is the lethal dose when aerosolized.
	Yeah, and apparently the challenges are putting it into an aerosolized form that makes it inhalable.
	Though, historical context, it seems that in the 2002 Moscow theater hostage crisis, Russian forces used aerosolized fentanyl derivative.
	Likely carfentanil or remfentanil to incapacitate the terrorists.
	I did not know that.
	Good point.
	Thanks for taking that up in the back channel.
	So let's think this through.
	China, together with Iranian threat networks, which is what Kash Patel said, with Mexican cartels, what if they have a decentralized stockpile of fentanyl and carfentanil sitting in various areas in North America?
	And what if Beijing goes kinetic against Taiwan, and these stockpiles are ready to be used.
	We would, I think, if anyone that reads military theory and strategy would have to think that type of thing.
	Could be a threat.
	Look, again, the Winnipeg Lab story, they worked on weaponizing Ebola between Winnipeg and Wuhan, a story that has yet to be fully known and told.
	The agro-terror story, we have to believe that there are multiple threats and fentanyl and carfentanil are part of that threat stream, I believe.
	Outrageous.
	I'm looking and it says, Encryptus is right, in enclosed spaces, it can be used as a WMD.
	It doesn't have to be sprinkled over farmlands.
	It could be used at theaters or whatever.
	Holy crap, I never thought about that.
	Thanks.
	Between you now and Encryptus in the back, it's Black Pill Friday.
	Okay, so also flesh this out for us.
	Precursors.
	So there is medicinal, I say medicinal, there's pharmaceutical, Purpose for some of these chemicals.
	I don't know if you know the precursors by name, but what are these upwards of 14, 15 types of precursors that China gets away with shipping the precursors?
	And then I want to get into the pill crusher things.
	But what are these precursors?
	Yeah.
	I mean, again, from a military perspective, they call it dual use technology.
	You know, the chemicals are the building blocks of life.
	So the precursors and the building block of industry, the precursors are simply, you know, I can't end blah, blah, blah.
	But there's, you know, these are the building blocks in highly sophisticated labs of fentanyl.
	And, you know, as I understand it, scientists can just tweak a few molecules, so to speak.
	Much like they can tweak a few molecules in a Wuhan lab on something else, and it'll change the designation of the precursor.
	So if you're the U.S. government saying, "Okay, we're going to sanction or designate the use of this precursor.
	If it comes from you, China, we'll take action." All China has to do, as Kash Patel said, is, you know, monkey around with it.
	And it's a new precursor that isn't on that designated list.
	So that's what's going on.
	And as the pressure from the U.S. government increased on China, that leads to the decentralized You have labs offshore where these precursors are then shipped and the precursors are juggled around to stay, you know, one step ahead of sanctions.
	And that's, you know, that's the story here.
	Decentralized, we could call it profit and weaponization.
	What would be the practical legislative or law enforcement solution to it?
	It would be regulated.
	Any chemical.
	So it sounds like they tweak it a little bit so it's no longer one of the 15 that's on the list and it's some other chemical that they can now ship internationally without registering regulation and that's how it works.
	And then they keep playing this cat and mouse game and then ship the precursors to a native reserve in Canada where they put it together and then ship it out for international distribution.
	I mean, there's two ways.
	There's a lot of ways to look at it, but quite honestly, Viva, I've come to the point of view, both myself, that has been confirmed now that I have access to talking to senior intelligence officials, that the Chinese Communist Party, no matter what you negotiate with them on the surface, they don't intend to change their global economy, which, get this, talk about another black pill, you know, I'm writing stories where senior U.S. experts say China knowingly collects drugs.
	cash around the world from the worst of criminals, including their own homegrown criminals, and uses that drug cash to feed into economic projects, to feed into corruption, wherever they collect that drug cash for whether it's, you know, Mexican cartels, Latin, Italian organized crime, the Hells Angels.
	So they are laundering the money around the world.
	They're upstream on producing So what's the answer?
	I believe this is where the trade war comes in.
	You stop trading with them.
	You cut them off, right?
	Simply, you rejig supply lines.
	And this is where Donald Trump and the U.S. government, I believe for 10 years, have been strategically moving in that direction.
	But President Trump just doing it in his unique wrecking ball way, you know, whenever he comes to power.
	It's a political end goal of China.
	I'm reading the chat.
	People are saying China has infiltrated Canada a long time ago.
	What's the level now?
	We don't yet know who the MPs were that were infiltrated by China.
	Do we know what came of the Chinese MP from the Liberals who jokingly suggested the delivery of a Conservative MP to some...
	Yeah.
	Jeez, where was it?
	It was to a...
	To the Toronto Constitution.
	I'm glad you asked.
	That's an ongoing epic story.
	The story in a nutshell is Toronto Liberal MP speaking to Chinese press says it would be a real problem for Canadian relations with China if his rival in the Conservative Party is elected to Canadian Parliament because this rival,
	Joseph Tay, a Hong Kong immigrant, faces A trumped-up national security charge in Hong Kong simply for doing what you're doing, Viva, and speaking about what's on his mind.
	He's a former broadcaster, or he is still a broadcaster.
	For that, he had a $1 million Hong Kong bounty on his head.
	This Liberal MP not only said it's a problem if he gets elected, which was the exact same message we later learned was coming from Chinese propaganda intelligence, he also said to these journalists, You could turn him over to the Toronto Consulate to claim that reward.
	So what happens?
	Mark Carney, running then for Prime Minister, was asked would he kick out this MP.
	He didn't.
	You know, my reporting and some others led finally to the RCMP saying they're investigating.
	That MP had to sit down.
	Another one replaced him, who also had, it was revealed, many connections to the Toronto Consulate.
	And to jump to the chase, Joseph Tay, As I reported, followed by the New York Times, was told by our RCMP it was too dangerous for him to go out and knock on doors in his rioting in sort of the Toronto area.
	So he did very well.
	He only lost by a few thousand votes.
	Very clear interference after he lost.
	Hong Kong officials detained his relatives in Hong Kong to question him.
	So they're continuing the barrage on this man and Canada's parliament indirectly.
	And I'll add this, Viva, you know, I have reviewed evidence that raises the concern that one of Joe Tay's campaign teams may have been stalked by a Chinese individual that is suspicious.
	So it all points to, you know, your question.
	I think at the start was how deep is the infiltration in Canada?
	Look, that case, many cases I've covered, and what I hear from U.S. officials is Canada is CCP command central in the Western Hemisphere.
	That's the reality.
	Someone can clip that, post it, tag Kash Patel on the Twitterverse.
	Holy hell.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	What else?
	Other than that, Mr. Cooper, how is the show?
	So what else is going on right now in Canada?
	They are talking about strengthening the border, at least Carney's now talking about this after having got elected, implicitly acknowledging the very problem.
	Do they have the means?
	Do they have the finances?
	Do they have the staff, the personnel, to even enforce the law?
	At the Canadian border, or are they as understaffed as the military seems to be?
	Yeah, my big takeaway on that, the Liberals have introduced a bill to make it look like they're going to get tough at the border.
	I haven't read it line by line, but I have advocated as an expert now for years that Canada needs an anti-racketeering law, which it lacks.
	Canada needs...
	These people, using Canadian reserves, using Canadian labs, using Canadian banks, using Canadian real estate, Canada needs to go after them with a terror designation hammer.
	Canada needs to use our military on Canadian soil.
	So the Liberals introduced a bill that doesn't do any of that.
	And, you know, I could go on and on.
	But buried in that bill is a potential poison pill that some have said in our parliament, giving, you know, Canadian police and intelligence powers to ask for anyone's sort of IP addresses and basically to go into everyone's Internet life.
	So that just raises the concerns of what is the Liberal Party up to burying that in a bill?
	Is that needed to protect Canada?
	Canada's new Public Safety Minister, one of my former Global News colleagues revealed today, has to step down from any national security decisions.
	It's related to the Tamil community because he is from the Tamil community in Toronto and his father was involved in politics abroad that I believe related to sort of terror networks.
	You got to weigh your words.
	So I won't call them a...
	A potential Tamil tiger connected individual.
	Which is a designated terrorist group, from what I understand.
	He's the safety minister?
	Well, I would not say at all that he's potentially connected, but he represented as a lawyer, before going into politics, a group.
	Let's just say involved in Tamil diaspora politics.
	His father evidently, reportedly had some concerning linkages.
	And so stepping back, let's just, let's say what it is.
	He has had to recuse himself from certain decisions on Canadian public safety because of the community he comes from, which in my view just speaks to what is going on in Canada in many ways.
	It's amazing.
	The article from the Global News is not coming up, but talking about potential conflict of interest leading to recusal.
	Holy crap.
	Okay.
	I don't even know where else to go from here.
	Let me see if there's any questions, specific questions in the chat.
	Our Sergeant says, I was just thinking, what if we used fentanyl for lethal injections, death penalty?
	Keep you hearing about the drug cocktail they give them, not working and people dying in agony.
	Let's not worry about that.
	So what are you working on now and where are you heading with your research?
	What I'm working on, I just actually put out what I would call a historical investigative deep dive story today.
	Again, an incredible guy they call the Mexican-Chinese whale.
	This is like the footprint of synthetic narcotics in Mexico.
	There was a major factory run from 2003 by this high-level guy from China who becomes a Mexican citizen.
	And he was caught with $207 million in his Mexico City mansion.
	He was working with the Sinaloa cartel, laundered $125 million in Las Vegas.
	And the level of methamphetamine back in that day that he was dealing was in the dozens of tons, 700 tons.
	And as you know, methamphetamine, about just as bad as fentanyl.
	And so a Chinese state-linked factory was involved in setting up a factory in Mexico, you know, and my sources indicate.
	Even though this guy's in jail now, it could be still being used for fentanyl and other things.
	I'm looking this summer at the complexity of exactly what Kash Patel says.
	When the U.S. government cracks down on labs and networks in the United States, they go to Mexico.
	When they crack down in Mexico, they go to Canada.
	At the end of the day, as I said at the start, this is China using the worst in the world to surround the United States and let's call it Fortress North America because I want to keep Canada and the United States strong together no matter what government we have in Ottawa.
	What is anybody doing in Canada about it?
	I mean, I don't want to despair you.
	You're doing the legwork that nobody's doing.
	You're exposing criminality and corruption of the highest order.
	And the Canadian government is hurrying up and doing nothing.
	Do they talk to you?
	Do you know if they have any plans to address any of this?
	Or do they not even acknowledge your existence?
	They now acknowledge my existence.
	Justin Trudeau's administration, after I started breaking stories about how Chinese election interference impacted our elections and deeply infiltrated his own party, I think they stopped responding to my questions.
	But Mark Carney's government, I can say, let's call this a little positive development.
	They're answering my questions and responding to my reporting.
	To protect Canada's sovereignty and to be a good partner with the United States around the world?
	I'm skeptical of that.
	But look, at the end of the day, let's go to the weekend with a shred of positive energy.
	I do think, look, on one hand, Mark Carney, I've got big concerns that he is...
	So I don't know if it's good or bad, but I'm trying to be a little bit positive here.
	Yeah, I always say intelligence without a moral compass is a weapon, not an asset.
	And I, until proof to the contrary, believe that Carney is more intelligent without a moral compass, or at least with a political agenda.
	And his agenda seems to be in line with China's agenda in terms of the type of government they want I mean, what's life like up there now that you have your liberal government and potential budget being tabled, but your liberal government?
	Yeah, Viva, honestly, for the past two weeks, I've just been absorbing the reality and even writing the reality that our whole This election, as you know, was the, it seems, the biggest gaslighting campaign in Canadian history.
	It turned on whether, you know, big bad President Donald Trump wanted to take the Canadian Arctic.
	And I wrote a story timelining how the Liberals, an extremely successful, one of the most successful political parties in Western Democratic history, I believe, cleverly used Trump's Mar-a-Lago comment.
	As you know, he said, well, if you can't pay for a military, maybe you should become the 51st state.
	And look, the Liberals were already planning to run against Donald Trump, essentially, even if he wasn't elected a second time.
	He surprised them, and then they found, okay, yeah, we are running against Donald Trump, and we're going to make the election about this PSYOP that the United States wants to march on Canada.
	We'll end it with this.
	It's a historical question, Sam.
	And a lot of people have floated the idea, as have I, that this is China's revenge for the opium war.
	Our sergeant said, I've long said that we are balls deep in an opium war with the Chinese.
	I think America should take Canada.
	Just stop the drug production coming from the north.
	I mean, some do hypothesize that China's got a long memory, and this is revenge against not just the Brits, but the West for the opium wars.
	I mean, what's your take?
	Whether or not it's a revenge for the opium wars, is this just China's conquest and a way of, in the long run and on the long game, weakening their enemies militarily, financially, economically, and socially?
	Yeah, the short answer is I was skeptical for a long time that this could all be, you know, partly intentionality of weakening and killing the West with drugs.
	But China, in its own way, in its history, suffered from colonial powers doing that.
	And so, yeah, it is.
	They learned.
	They said it was done to us.
	This is revenge, and very effective revenge.
	We can be successful.
	Remember, Sun Tzu says, you know, the war fought without firing a bullet is the better war, right?
	This is not my extrapolation or theory.
	I talk to smart people on my own podcast, including a former U.S. government official that is a scenologist that says, yeah, you can find documents where Chinese senior officials are talking about the revenge theory or the counter-opium war, the reverse opium war.
	I'm giving you a link out here.
	What is your podcast and where can people find you?
	You've got to come back on periodically just to slap whatever optimism I had in my stupid head out of it.
	What's your podcast and where can people find you?
	Yeah, so it's called The Bureau Podcast.
	Again, not The Bureau to be confused with the FBI.
	It's just my brand right here.
	So you can go thebureau.news is my investigative website.
	You know, I got to thank everyone.
	It's two years now since I went independent, now up over 30,000 subscribers.
	I'd like to convert more of them to paying so I can pay some of my legal bills and etc.
	But yeah, go to thebureau.news.
	You'll find the podcast and you'll find slamming stories, you know, probably about four or five per week.
	Amazing.
	And I don't know what you remind me of Dexter a little bit, like Michael C. Hall, but back in the day.
	You're not wearing your glasses this time, so you look a little different.
	You know, on various days, I've got anything from Matt Damon to Mark Wahlberg to Dexter.
	People called me a killer from a TV series.
	And look, man, maybe I am a bit of a sniper in a way.
	Sam, you do amazing work.
	I encourage and implore everybody to go support you in whatever way they can.
	You'll come back on and we'll do some updates as there's updates to discuss?
	Absolutely, man.
	We'll talk soon.
	Thank you very much.
	Have a good weekend.
	Peace.
	Oh, well, if you weren't black-pilled before, people, don't worry.
	We're going to get into Ghislaine Maxwell stuff.
	Holy crabapples.
	I need to drink some water.
	My throat's been tickling me.
	That's enough to really drive people into the pits of despair, to quote The Princess Bride.
	I had never been fearful of a kinetic war with China until the first time I had Sam on.
	And he really made me very, very nervous because what he's describing in terms of sequences of events, it looks like it's headed in that direction.
	And the level of brainwashing over Westerners, which I think is due in large part to TikTok, which I also think is the digital arm of the psychological, chemical, biological warfare that China is waging against the West.
	Because of the TikTok digital arm, you got a bunch of Westerners who don't understand what the hell's going on and think Donald Trump is the enemy of the people and not Xi Jinping, China, the Chinese Communist Party.
	And any politician in Canada who is aligned with or an agent of the Chinese Communist Party, and there are lots of them, we just don't know their names because they haven't released it yet.
	Holy hell.
	Let me read some chat.
	Over in vivabarneslaw.locals.com, Dashman91 says, You remind me of a serial killer.
	It's a great way to start dinner date.
	You have the upper hand.
	In fairness, it was the way I ended the game.
	No, but he does look like Michael C. Hall, and it's a compliment, because Michael C. Hall is a very good-looking man, especially when he grew his beard out at the end of Dexter when he went to live out in the woods.
	Oh, jeez, I just spoiled it for everybody.
	I'm not going to read what the Iron Duke said in terms of destroying Canada, F them, but...
	There needs to be an awareness.
	There needs to be a...
	Okay, no, we're still good.
	There needs to be some massive political awakening.
	I'm going to go finish the Cash Patel interview.
	I'm going to go finish the Cash Patel podcast with Rogan afterwards.
	It was under two hours.
	So, I don't know.
	I presume Cash doesn't have very much time to sit down for long format podcasts.
	I've just always said, you know, when a Rogan podcast is under two hours, um...
	That depends on what it is, depending on who it is.
	So everybody, that is Sam Cooper.
	You know, a true modern day journalist doing amazing stuff.
	Let me read some of the crumble rants over on crumble before we get into the next story of the day.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	Here.
	Our sergeant.
	Okay, I got the balls deep one.
	The dialogue box says, please pop by.
	And listen to TBD10, to be determined.
	Oh, the dialogue box 10. I think, therefore, I run.
	Ready to reap, sir?
	And ask yourself the same question.
	Well, you know, now I'm actually intrigued, and I might go do this right now.
	See, I'm just going to go cut that.
	We got R. Sargent said, I was just thinking if they use fentanyl for lethal injections, I got that.
	R. Sargent says, it's like K2 of the opioid world.
	Fake weed sold.
	As incense, as soon as you outlaw the chemical in it, the people making it start changing the chemicals.
	Then we've got King of Biltong in the house who says, craving a snack that's bold, authentic, and packed with protein, Biltong boasts nearly 50% protein, packed with B12, creatine, iron, zinc, and more.
	www.biltongusa.com.
	Code Viva for 10% off.
	Thank you.
	And I saw another one just come in here.
	DOJJJ, DO7JJ says, hey, hello, Viva.
	On a happy note.
	Canada wins the Stanley Cup as a Canadian team, and two-thirds of Florida's is made up of Canadian players.
	By the way, what is your time slot Tuesday through Friday?
	Next week, I go back to 4 o 'clock, unless we try 5 o 'clock.
	But hold on a second.
	Am I an idiot for not knowing that a Canadian team just won the Stanley Cup?
	Is hockey still going on?
	Stanley Cup news?
	Stanley Cup final, Oilers versus Panthers, game one.
	Okay, just started.
	No, there hasn't been a winner yet.
	Okay, fine.
	Oh, I guess the idea is it's either going to be the Oilers, which is a Canadian team, or the Panthers, which is two-thirds of a Canadian team.
	And is it a sacrilege that I'm living in Florida and didn't know that the Panthers had made it to the Stanley Cup?
	Probably!
	But I'm not interested in sports, although I've been getting back into sports cards, which I just think is a childish form of gambling.
	I'll get into it.
	I'll get into it on the after party with vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	By the way, before we go any further, let me just see something.
	How many people do we have watching here?
	We've got 11,200 people watching.
	Amazing!
	Go, and then D07JJ says, correct, Viva.
	Right now, make sure that you're subscribed.
	And if you want the clips, I post the clips to Commitube and Rumble as well.
	Make sure you're subscribed.
	Make sure you have notifications turned on.
	Hit that thumbs up because there's only 230...
	Get out of here.
	And the other thing I was going to ask you is, today is going to be a day where there will be no paywall.
	You don't need to be a supporter to join the vivabarneslaw.locals.com afterparty because I'm using StreamYard because I didn't want to have an issue with our guest.
	Link to locals.
	Come join locals and you can stay for the afterparty and I'll show you some Topps 2003 baseball cards that we got the other day.
	All right.
	If it wasn't black-pilled enough, let's get into the next story.
	I see a tweet, and it says, Alan Dershowitz, not begging, not pleading, recommending a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell.
	And I'm like, that's not possible.
	I haven't heard that.
	And then I go look up Dershowitz, Giseline, pardon.
	And what I see is an article from back in 2022 that says, once upon a time, This is old, people.
	This is January 10, 2022.
	But spoiler alert, apparently he actually suggested pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell because, you know, the Derek Chauvin idea was such a popular one and so politically savvy.
	The other one, the P. Diddy, that's another great one you should really think of.
	You want to quell concerns about nefarious involvement in sinister activity?
	Go ahead and pardon P. Diddy.
	Unless it's strategic to get the names of whomever.
	So, this is an old article.
	It said, former Jeffrey Epstein lawyer, attorney Dershowitz, lobbied President Trump for pardon of Madam Ghislaine Maxwell.
	The 83-year-old lawyer himself, long accused of having sex with one of the late pedophile Epstein teen accusers, pushed for a pardon after UK media heiress Maxwell was arrested.
	He did deny it, though.
	That's what I want to try to find here.
	Yeah, Dershowitz denied the claim in an interview with The Insider on Monday, blasting the report as simply not true.
	Fast forward.
	How many years is it?
	Two and a half years?
	It looks like he's asking for a pardon.
	This is a clip from Alex Jones with Roger Stone.
	I can just tell you it's in her sworn testimony.
	Virginia Giffray again.
	I think, sadly, if you read the testimony of Virginia Jaffray again, Alan, she accuses Dershowitz's inner testimony of sexual assault.
	By the way, can we all just go back and watch what Alex Jones was doing there?
	I think, sadly, if you read the testimony of Virginia Jaffray again, Alan, she accuses Dershowitz's inner testimony.
	of sexual assault.
	He has always vehemently denied it.
	He's threatened to sue people who say it, but I can just tell you it's in her sworn testimony.
	This is the worst idea I've ever heard.
	It's right up there with the idea of pardoning P. Diddy.
	So, look.
	you you Roger Stone, because he's got half a brain in him.
	Roger Stone is a very smart man, by the way.
	That was not intended to be an insult to Roger Stone.
	Rightly acknowledges it would be the worst...
	Worst idea on earth.
	All that to say, it's true.
	Get this out of here.
	Epstein lawyer responds to Elon Musk claim Trump is named in files as Ghislaine Maxwell pins her hopes on a presidential pardon.
	Is this one from June 6th?
	2025.
	Let me make sure we're looking at the same thing.
	And we are.
	Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer has responded to Elon Musk's sensational suggestion that Donald Trump was involved in the late pedophiles' crimes.
	In a bombastic social media post yesterday, as their bromance came to an end, Musk made the inflammatory suggestion that Trump is refusing to release the secret Epstein file because he is, quote, named in them.
	Epstein attorney David Schoen refuted his claim that Epstein had no information that would hurt President Donald Trump.
	This is clearly not the right article that I was looking for.
	But that's all to say that...
	Just the news.
	Here we go.
	Let's bring this one up.
	This is Dershowitz apparently suggesting Urging is such a strong word.
	Dershowitz urges pardon for Epstein, Madam Ghislaine Maxwell.
	Why are we calling her a madam?
	Did she get knighted or something?
	Harvard Law School professor Emeritus, which means he's connected from a distance, Alan Dershowitz, has urged the Trump administration to consider a pardon.
	You can't urge someone to consider.
	Those are two mutually conflicting terms.
	He's asked that they consider.
	Urge them to take action is different.
	You don't urge someone to think about taking action.
	I'd pardon or commutation for his ex-girlfriend, Madame Ghislaine Maxwell.
	She received 20 years for sex trafficking to nobody, to nobody yet, as far as we know.
	Be patient, but don't be stupid.
	And an array of charges related to her procurement of underage women for Jeffrey.
	It was all about him.
	That's right.
	Certainly she should, by the way, he was a sex trafficker too.
	Certainly she should get a commutation.
	The sentence was way, way, way in excess of anything she was alleged to have done.
	He told the Daily Mail.
	And this is the original article from the Daily Mail.
	Now let's go and see what he says there.
	Get back here.
	she was in part a victim of Epstein.
	This is where I take specific umbrage with what, He's a very smart man.
	I defer to him for legal analysis or at the very least always consider his opinion.
	She was in part a victim of Epstein.
	The fact that Epstein died made her a primary target and caused an excessive sentence to her.
	Some executive clemency is very much warranted in her case.
	I believe there will be a lot of people who would support some executive clemency for her.
	Shall we make a poll in the Twitterverse?
	I guarantee you the answer is nil.
	Let me do this in real time.
	We're going to go see.
	Dershowitz suggests, and we'll put this in here, I believe there will be a lot of who would support clemency here.
	It's going to be zero.
	Do you support clemency for Glane?
	How do you spell her name?
	Ghislaine Maxwell.
	And I'm just going to do this.
	Dershowitz suggests, Dershowitz says, I'll just put Dershowitz colon, I believe there will be a lot of clemency of people who would support some executive clemency for it.
	Do you support clemency for Ghislaine Maxwell?
	Yes.
	No.
	Post.
	And we shall see.
	Guaranteed 90 plus percent.
	Hells to the bells.
	No.
	Dershowitz himself fought a years-long battle over accusations, yada, yada, yada.
	So that is possibly the worst idea ever, especially in light of Elon Musk coming out and saying what he said yesterday, which I don't think many people believe.
	And if it's technically true because he was in the Black Book and he was on the flight log for purely domestic flights from New York, Miami, New Jersey, from the public records or the records that have been disclosed, technically true, defamatory by implication.
	I don't think there's a person on earth who would agree with what Dershowitz said, and it's very, very bad timing to even bring it up right now.
	But luckily, it doesn't look like anyone's particularly interested in that.
	And that's all there is on that one.
	Let me see something here.
	What else do we have going on?
	Oh, sorry, this was from yesterday.
	Let me go to the chat for one second, and then we're going to see what we cover by way of next story.
	In our vivabarneslaw.locals.com community, it's, Dersh represented some seedy characters, says Dashman921.
	Yes, and Dersh convinced me, I mean, he at least put together the compelling argument when he was on the channel, that on the one hand, even guilty people are entitled to a defense, but that defense cannot be a dishonest defense of innocence.
	It could just be a prove your case from the prosecution, because that needs to be done, and if you give them the carte blanche, To railroad a guilty person, it's only a matter of time before they're going to railroad an innocent person.
	Dershowitz represented people involved in that, and so maybe this is part of his advocacy for people still involved in that.
	If it was indeed paid advocacy, and if it was paid advocacy, that should be disclosed.
	I'm not suggesting it is, but that should be disclosed.
	But it's a bad suggestion.
	Madam is a woman pimp, not a formal title, says Encryptus.
	Over in our locals community.
	And if we go to Viva Barnes, no, we're on the Rumble side.
	We got Ginger Ninja in the house.
	Ginger Ninja is the man who made the chessboard behind me.
	Partook in the journeys, a soldier's journey home, home build for disabled veterans who need a forever home.
	Ginger Ninja says, looks like several people have already voted yes to your poll.
	Wow.
	They might be trolls.
	That's the problem.
	But we'll see.
	Broad, we need to see.
	What happens at the end of that poll?
	Although my polls don't typically do very well in terms of broad reach on Twitter.
	Our Sergeant 31 says, I vote would take the madam and throw her in gen pop at a high seat.
	We shall bring that one down.
	So we'll see where that poll goes anyhow.
	Yeah, hold on one second.
	I have so much stuff from articles for Sam.
	I guess we can play this for a second.
	Let me pull something up on the back.
	This just came in.
	So you have Elon melting down, saying, you know, Trump's on the Epstein list.
	That's why it's being covered up.
	I've never seen any evidence of that.
	I've seen the contrary.
	We already covered that last hour.
	And so I said that doesn't look right to me.
	And then you see stuff like this.
	Alan Dershowitz says Trump should pardon Ghislaine Maxwell next.
	Convicted, you know, sex slaver.
	I know he was a lawyer for Epstein.
	I'm not saying that's bad.
	People deserve lawyers.
	The good, the bad, the ugly.
	But if Trump did that, then that would add so much weight, when there's no weight there, to him being involved in a cover-up, especially with his slow rolling in the investigations by the DOJ.
	I mean, this is the most horrible idea I've ever heard.
	I think, sadly, if you read the testimony of Virginia Giffray, again, Alan, she accuses Dershowitz in her testimony of sexual assault.
	He has always vehemently denied it.
	He's threatened to sue people who say it, but I can just tell you it's in her sworn testimony.
	This is the worst idea I've ever heard.
	It's right up there with the idea of pardoning P. Diddy.
	I think it's very important to point out, Alex, that That Damien Williams, the U.S. Attorney for New York, who handled Epstein's death, handled the Jeffrey Maxwell case, and handling the P. Diddy case.
	In both cases, Maxwell and Diddy are charged with conspiracy, but there is no other conspirator charged.
	How is that possible?
	conspiracy by definition has to involve more than one person.
	So you have a massive cover up because of Trust me, there were no members of the John Birch Society at any of Diddy's parties.
	So this is part of a massive, massive cover-up.
	We'll stop it there.
	Well, stop it there.
	It's over.
	It's part of a massive cover-up.
	And, you know, I won't repeat what I said yesterday during the stream when I discovered in real time that Elon had put out that tweet or what I put in my car vlog afterwards after I had some time to think about it.
	Talk to some people and see Elon Musk's follow-up tweets.
	The idea that anybody thinks that Trump would be actually involved in any nefarious way in the Epstein files would mean that when Biden's DOJ had control of the DOJ, FBI, all of the files, they chose not to release it because they wanted to protect Trump.
	And that makes no sense.
	Then others would say, well, they didn't have a way of releasing info to inculpate Trump without inculpating their own.
	And so that it's a big cabal and they're protecting their own and only Trump tangentially.
	But it does not make any sense.
	The question now only is what the hell is the deal in terms of not disclosing to whom the Epstein-Gallane traffickers were procuring and trafficking underage girls for the purposes of sex to.
	It doesn't in any rational realm of the universe.
	But maybe it embarrasses states and or very powerful individuals.
	But I haven't seen the entire thing yet.
	And I haven't been able to hear this section in its broader context, although a three-and-a-half-minute clip is broad enough context.
	This is Kash Patel on Joe Rogan talking about the Epstein files, and the answers are always begging more questions.
	I'll just play this without commentary for a bit.
	We don't need to listen to the whole thing.
	Oh, that's it.
	Sorry.
	So you're talking about Teeter right now?
	Yes.
	Sorry.
	So, yeah, so again, we're going to give you...
	And people have to remember, we're not going to re-victimize women.
	We're not going to put that shit back out there.
	Which means that there is video that would victimize or re-victimize the victims.
	I do get a little...
	Which means that there is video out there that victimizes or would re-victimize victims of sex trafficking and underage procurement for the purposes of, I don't know, sex.
	Okay, so there's that.
	It's not happening because then he wins.
	Not doing it.
	You want to hate me for it?
	Fine.
	Again, logical play out.
	If there was a video of some guy or gal committing felonies on an island and I'm in charge, don't you think you'd see it?
	If you have access to it.
	If I have it.
	Period.
	If I have it.
	If I have it.
	Don't you think you'd see it?
	When he just said, we're not going to put it out there if it's going to re-victimize.
	I'm just trying to make sure I understand it.
	If there were video felony crimes, and I had it, don't you think you'd see it?
	Right.
	Destroyed would be one possibility.
	If you have it.
	Right.
	But you can't say that you have it.
	No, we're giving you everything we have.
	So far?
	Everything we have so far Yeah.
	That's what I'm telling you.
	That's what takes so much damn time.
	Right.
	So there is video.
	They are going over it.
	They're not going to publish it or publicize it if it's going to re-victimize the victims.
	And is there video from the island?
	Not of what you want.
	The people out there have filled the void with can't wait to see X, Y, or Z. Right.
	Speculation.
	And I'm like, here's the other thing I've been asking for, right?
	If you have information on this.
	The void with, can't wait to see X, Y, or Z. Right, speculation.
	And I'm like, here's the other thing I've been asking for, right?
	Openly.
	If you have information on this, call us.
	Tell us.
	The best resource we have is the American people in the world.
	Right.
	Get me the tail numbers.
	Get me the flight.
	Get me new information, and I will run that down.
	So this narrative might not be accurate, that there's video of these guys doing this.
	Exactly.
	Is it possible that the video was taken and destroyed?
	Well, you're talking about, what, decades' worth of stuff, right?
	Remember, we have what we have pursuant to lawful search warrants and authorities from the case that was done.
	However many years ago it was done.
	That's what we have.
	If other people have other stuff, then they want to give it to us.
	If other people have video of underage...
	I'm going to go read the chat to see if people are piecing this together.
	I'm going to go listen to the full interview to see if it's contextually more satisfactory.
	This does seem like there's two mutually incompatible statements, which is we have decades of video.
	It doesn't show what you want it to show as though there's a presumption of what we wanted it to show.
	They're not going to release it because it's going to re-victimize the girls, but they don't have the video that potentially would re-victimize the girls that they say they have.
	Bring it.
	Have you guys reviewed everything that you have?
	Almost.
	I mean, yes, we have, and now we're figuring out how to put it out.
	Now, I understand that you would never re-victimize these women and show this footage, but is there footage?
	Outside of...
	If there was footage of anybody doing anything else, we would have opened a case.
	I mean, that was a long pause.
	Is there footage?
	There's footage.
	Is it possible that there was footage that you just will never have access to because they've already gotten rid of it?
	I mean, anything's paused, right?
	Well, there was a long time, right?
	Between the time when it was clear that Kamala lost the election and that Trump won.
	Yeah.
	Before he got into office.
	I got here 100 days ago.
	Literally.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	It's just kind of crazy.
	So I'm doing what I can.
	And that's the type of stuff like, you know, and I'm happy to But what I'm trying to achieve at the Bureau is not only are we doing what's of public interest, what's of great public interest, our biggest job is to defend the homeland and stop kids from dying.
	And that fits back into the fentanyl crisis that he was talking about that kills 100,000 Americans a year, 600-plus Canadians a month.
	It's a little weird.
	After that exchange and a three-minute exchange, I have to go listen to the rest of the interview.
	I still am not entirely clear on what they have and what they don't have.
	And then the question is, Rogan's asking what they might have deleted in the four months since Kamala lost and Trump took office.
	They would have deleted some of this stuff a decade ago.
	Or it would be in the hands of intelligence.
	Or governments or bad players in foreign governments.
	And I don't know what it means.
	I'm just going to go.
	I'll go to the vivabarneslaw.locals.com chat and see what they think because I don't know what to make of that.
	I don't want to see footage.
	I want names, says Boopsie.
	And then he says, if there was video that implicated others, they would have opened a case.
	Which seems to suggest from Patel's answer.
	If they haven't opened a case yet, that nobody else was involved in the Epstein sex trafficking ring.
	I mean, it's going to be implausible and impossible for anyone to believe, given what Prince Andrew himself said, and what he looked like when he said it, and what happened to him after he said it.
	Cryptis, what's your take?
	So I think that there might be just careful words there in that they Doesn't mean they didn't open a case.
	It means that he can't and no one can comment on any open cases.
	So that statement might literally just mean if there was evidence that a case needed to be opened, we opened it, we're not telling you right now.
	That's possible.
	But then, so then, see, that would be the question, well...
	Ginger Ninja, I'm going to read the comment without approval because I don't think Patel is corrupted yet.
	I just think they might be over their heads for the time being.
	Ginger Ninja 1776 says, quote, we're not going to re-victimize anyone.
	Also, if I had footage of someone committing a felony, wouldn't you think you'd see it?
	No cash now.
	I don't think I would.
	You're corrupted already.
	TX47 says, equality before the law and equal application of the laws.
	That's what is wrong with the DOJ.
	It doesn't.
	King of Biltong reminds everybody that they stream live at 4 p.m. Eastern directly after Viva.
	4 p.m. Eastern.
	Do I go an extra 13 minutes so we can raid you?
	Some light banter whilst cooking great food.
	Join us for the fun.
	Our channel is eat at Anton's.
	I vote to take the madam of Let me see what Locals has to say about this.
	Let me go share the screen here.
	With VivaBranchLaw.locals.com Choosing his words carefully, says Tealy1776.
	Going to the bottom.
	I loved stamp glue.
	Just the perverts that went there.
	I think you're being generous, says Dashman91.
	This is the other thing.
	We know that there was an intricate network of cameras at the island.
	I think at New Mexico as well.
	What was the camera set up on Epstein Island?
	We know that it was an intricate camera with a room that they had in the basement.
	I don't want to get mixed up between the Epstein's island.
	And the New Mexico compound where he was talking about impregnating many women, it was here.
	Jeffrey Epstein's island was equipped with video cameras as part of its security system.
	Holy shit, AI!
	Okay, that's bad.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, sorry.
	It's security system.
	Securing blackmail on people.
	It's a freaking island.
	These cameras were also present Security purposes, Epstein's brother claimed these cameras were used solely for security.
	Blackmail.
	However, victims of Epstein alleged that he filmed sexual encounters to use as blackmail against prominent figures, though no one has publicly confirmed seeing such videos.
	Voyeuristic surveillance.
	A lawsuit also claimed Epstein's New York City mansion had a panopticon room.
	Okay, forget that.
	Jeffrey Epstein had surveillance cameras in every room.
	Let's go to the Daily Mail article.
	In every room of his New York City and Little St. James properties for security and to feed his depraved perversions, say former sex slave.
	So we're going to...
	And it's not the whole Mark Twain, you know, it's easier to be fooled than it is to convince people.
	It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled.
	I know that in my heart of hearts, I believe there is blackmail video footage out there.
	Now, might we all have to face a reality where that turns out to not be true?
	People will never believe it.
	I can probably say, safely, I will never believe being told that.
	And is that because it's easier to fool me than it is to convince me that I've been fooled?
	I don't think I've been fooled.
	And I think that enough of the evidence is clearly to the effect that we haven't been fooled, the footage is out there, and that none of us are going to believe that such footage doesn't exist.
	Then what footage does exist?
	Just parties?
	Just boats coming in, boats coming out, planes landing, helicopters landing on his private island where they need security footage because there's no way to access the island?
	Security footage to make sure no one's stealing purses on Epstein's Island.
	If one of the guests loses a computer, they go check the security footage.
	I'll never believe that there's an absence or that there was never in existence a wildly criminal video.
	And I don't know if that makes me stubborn or unwilling to admit that I might have been wrong the entire time.
	Let me see what the chat has to say about that.
	No, very unlikely.
	Again, very unlikely because I've met Don Jr. multiple times.
	Don Jr.'s problem is that he's too normal and that he's not a Hunter Biden.
	We can all be wrong.
	You never know what goes on behind closed doors.
	But I would be flabbergasted and shocked that this would all now come down to Trump protecting one of his sons.
	I don't think so.
	In fact, I would probably think it's more likely than not that if one of Trump's sons were involved, he would probably impose the law on them.
	Epstein was a globalist tool.
	To control many you worship, the worst evil there is.
	Pedos sells out.
	Cowards trade us as big bunny men.
	Oh, no.
	And then the idea that Dersh says that Ghislaine Maxwell was the victim of Epstein.
	You know, there are people with big brains who know the subject matter that suggest that Epstein was actually Ghislaine's pawn in all of this.
	That Ghislaine was the mastermind and that Epstein was the useful idiot.
	And that Epstein was the one who was able to be manipulated and that he might have been involved in it because of blackmail on him and Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father was Robert Maxwell, with ties to intelligence of a great many countries who died under suspicious circumstances, that they might have been using Epstein as the tool to obtain and procure their blackmail for the purposes of whatever it was that they were involved in generationally between Robert Maxwell and Ghislaine Maxwell.
	I love reading some of the chat here, which is just so wildly unhinged.
	It's beyond words.
	Vander X says, quote, people reviewed the flight logs and found Trump's name on a total of seven times.
	He was mentioned on page 24 of the flight log dated October 11, 1993.
	Well, you're right.
	And if we want to get into a discussion that I was having with someone who subsequently deleted their tweet yesterday, where they accused Trump of having gone, frequently gone to the...
	And I was like, oh, you know, haha, are you comfortable enough with your statement to provide an address for service of the impending lawsuit you might get from Trump?
	And then the tweet was swiftly deleted and I was swiftly blocked by the individual, but I screen recorded some stuff.
	So he says he's also on tons of flights to Porn Island, says Pesach Latin.
	To which I said, I don't know what the flag in the eagle means, and I think it's libertarian.
	And I found that this eagle flag and that conjunction, when it's libertarian involved, it tends to make a lot of stupid comments on Twitter.
	But I said, if you're talking about Donald Trump, you've got any evidence for that defamatory statement.
	Also, if you're so confident, provided the LOLs, and then I was blocked, because what I said was, afterwards, oh yeah, then he says, oh, he says to me, Basic research helps and then provides a screenshot of the results.
	And then I said, why did you delete the tweet?
	Why did you block me?
	If you made a mistake, you could have just corrected and retracted.
	I wouldn't even ask for an apology.
	It wasn't about me.
	This is defamatory, Steve.
	Is it because you discovered after your basic research that the flights that he was on, that you claimed linked him to, quote, Porn Island, in fact, were in fact ordinary flights between New York, New Jersey, and Florida?
	It's a strange and incriminating response to each their own.
	Yeah, ha ha ha.
	The whole point is that links to Porn Island, there are none.
	Yes, Trump was on flights with Epstein, as were many people who used it to fly between Lolita, his plane, I don't even think it was the Lolita Express, but his plane between New York, Florida, and New Jersey, and a lot of people did it, and that's not evidence of having visited the island.
	And Dershowitz, again, I'll defend him where he deserves his defense with the whole I'd left my underwear on during the massage.
	That wasn't on Epstein's Island.
	That was at a spa in Florida.
	It was at some spa.
	It wasn't on Epstein's Island.
	So someone being on a flight, what is it called?
	Continental domestic, you can be suspicious and I wouldn't blame you.
	But that's not the same degree of suspicion as having gone to the island.
	Or I would also throw in there international flights with Jeffrey Epstein.
	You fly international with Jeffrey Epstein, I might have some more questions there.
	But that is not being on the island level suspicion.
	And if I ever found out that Donald Trump actually was on the island, yeah, I would be very, very suspicious because I am...
	Stay home.
	Nothing good happens after midnight.
	Keep your schmeckle in your pants.
	Get married and stay married, people.
	Oh, lordy, lordy, lordy.
	Let me see what's going on in the chat.
	Not every visitor participated, but those who did should already be in prison, says Colorado Berserker.
	You know, but if you visited Epstein's Island and you saw what went on there, I mean, in fact, I believe it would be impossible to have visited the island and not have seen what went on there, or at least not have known what went on there.
	So anybody who's at that island that's not talking about what happened on that island, I think might be, there might be reasons for which their tongue is being tied.
	The Nether Knight says, if the island is not in U.S. jurisdiction, would there be evidentiary issues if the tapes were acquired by improper means?
	Little St. James is a...
	It is part of the US.
	It's a territory.
	So it's not...
	Fact check me on that, people.
	fairly certain I'm right about that.
	I mean, the Grok will be good for this.
	I'm 100% certain it is, but I just can't spell the word.
	If you saw the way I'm typing, island within.
	Is Epstein's album within U.S. jurisdiction?
	And the answer is...
	It's located in the U.S. state's Virgin Islands, a U.S. territory in the Caribbean, southeast of St. Thomas.
	The U.S. Virgin Islands are subject to U.S. federal law, and the islands fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. District Court for the Virgin Islands.
	Additionally, the U.S. Virgin Islands has its own local government and laws, but federal authorities such as the FBI have jurisdiction over federal crimes committed there, as evidenced by the FBI's raid on Little St. James in 2019.
	Only following his death.
	You gotta tell me that that's not bizarre.
	Has anybody noticed that Dan Bongino and Cash Patel look scared to effing death every time they do an interview?
	Nah, it looks like they're weighing their words.
	To me, Dan looked more frustrated than scared.
	And Patel, in that clip, and from what I've thus far seen with Rogan, looked like he was weighing his words.
	That's it, peeps!
	We're going to get ready for the after party on vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Let me see what's going on in the chat over here.
	We got a tipped question from Encryptus.
	It says, check out the Grace Shara wrongful death trial.
	Barnes is working on the team, and I'm going to give everybody the link here so that everybody, including those on Rumble, can go check it out.
	Grace Shara.
	It was a woman with Down syndrome who was admitted to a hospital for COVID and then was effectively killed.
	And I'm not going to say in a criminal sense, but there's an issue as to whether or not it was medical malpractice and how she ended up with a do not resuscitate that allowed for her to die.
	And arguably from medical malpractice.
	The trial, Barnes is involved with it, but not pleading it.
	It's Children's Health Defense that's taking it.
	It's being broadcast live.
	We can go have a quick peek at it just to see what it looks like.
	Encryptus has set up an all-day stream because it's being broadcast.
	Between physician and power of attorney is Grace's prognosis or Grace's how things are going.
	You can't just jump in in the middle of it.
	Go check it out if you're interested.
	The link is now shared with everybody.
	Encryptus, thank you for setting that up.
	And people can have their awareness of that.
	Link one more time.
	And that's it.
	We're going to wait a few seconds.
	We're going to raid.
	Hold on.
	What day is it today?
	Today is Friday.
	Redacted is not live, but Anton is.
	Then we can raid Anton today.
	Go raid Anton and go buy his product.
	It's damn delicious.
	healthy.
	I, my favorite now is the Durwonk Durwonk.
	It's flipping delicious.
	Clove.
	I made a video a while back.
	Dill in everything.
	You put dill in anything and it becomes delicious.
	You put cilantro in anything and it becomes more delicious.
	Mint also.
	Thyme, basil, and oregano.
	But now, clove in everything.
	And it becomes exponentially more delicious.
	Zelda Vine says, black-pilled long ago here in downtown Eastside Vancouver.
	LOL.
	Yeah, it's tough not to.
	I mean, the issue is go get some sunlight if you can, but if you're in Vancouver, it's rainy more than half of the year.
	Thank you all for being here.
	Before you head out, make sure that you are subscribed.
	Make sure you have notifications turned on.
	Go get a book.
	Louis the Lobster Returns to the Sea.
	Let me, in order to reinvigorate the commie tube algorithm that has been They know that I'm loyal to Rumble now.
	We do the Sunday night show there so that we can promote the weekly live streams.
	Go check out a video and just reinvigorate the algorithm there.
	It's incredible.
	What do we say here?
	You saw that part yesterday here?
	I'll share this.
	VMs.
	You want to check VMs?
	Hold on a second.
	Just be careful.
	You want to check DMs and be careful?
	Well, I know that you talk to a lot of people.
	It's interesting.
	Just be careful when you check your DMs.
	Let me go see the DMs.
	First of all, let me just share this around here.
	Get a book, Louie the Lobster.
	It is on Amazon.
	Go raid in cryptos.
	Go stimulate a snippet and a clippet from the Rumble stream over on Commitube.
	Support your local farmer.
	And let me check my DMs before we leave here.
	DMs in Twitter.
	DM in Twitter.
	No, not that.
	Dude, encrypt us.
	DM in Twitter or DM on my phone or DM in our private chat on StreamYard?
	So, I didn't tell you to check your DMs.
	DM is Twitter.
	But actually, I did leave you a private chat here in StreamYard.
	For the Viva Barnes live event and the show.
	Yes.
	Okay, before we go, if you want to meet up, greet up in Tennessee, if you want to, Shut up.
	We got to $100,000.
	I shouldn't say we.
	This is Barnes' venture and Encryptus is helping him with it.
	I will help because right after this year, I'm taking a picture of my lectern and I'm auctioning it off in there.
	It's going to come with a signed book and some other goodies from Viva that was made by Adam Johnson, sir.
	We're far over 100,000 at this point.
	I'm actually changing the target goal.
	How far over 100,000?
	I don't want to give specific numbers because I don't know if they want to give specific numbers.
	Let's put it this way.
	We have sold over 160 tickets.
	A lot of them are at the discounted rate.
	Amazing.
	Get a ticket.
	We're going to have an amazing weekend in Tennessee, Chattanooga, at the end of or mid-August.
	August 5th, 14th to 16th, I think, or whatever.
	Whatever the date says right here.
	And the date's in the thing.
	Go check it out.
	That is the show for today.
	We're going to go over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com for the after party.
	Thank you all for being here.
	Snip, clip, share away, spread the word.
	And Godspeed, God bless.
	Do not get despaired.
	What does Barnes say?
	The greatest trick the devil played was convincing you he doesn't exist.
	And the greatest trick the system played was convincing you you cannot resist.
	For me, it's like I go a little bit more metaphysical.
	When I was biking and I looked at a heron and the heron's just sitting there in the water.
	Just frozen, just waiting for its meal.
	I'm like, that's really boring.
	And they're like, first of all, that's what the heron was put on this earth to do.
	And second of all, the heron's got no choice but to continue fighting the battle people.
	We are here and we have no choice.
	And we're all going to end up in the same place at some point in time anyhow.
	So get as much done while you're here for all good reasons.
	And with that mild white pill, go raid Antons.
	Go get a ticket at 1776.
	It's Event Gives.
	And we shall see you all no later than Sunday, probably earlier.
	And that is it.
	Link.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	Peeps, Rumble.
	I'm going to take it out of here.
	Twitter, I am dismantling.
	See you on Twitter.
	And let me make sure I don't screw up by...
	And then I'm going to end it.

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