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May 26, 2025 - Viva & Barnes

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Live with Steve Baker: FBI Agent Gone Roque in Corey Mills Alleged "Stolen Valor"? AND MORE!

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	What you are about to witness, though funny to the rest of us, is in fact not funny at all at the underlying issues.
	We are about to see Macron get manhandled.
	Pun intended.
	For those listening on podcast, we just saw Macron have a hand shoved in his face.
	Immediately looks extremely surprised that the cameras are viewing what is going on.
	Hand in his face right there.
	Looks out.
	Doors open.
	Cameras on.
	Oh my!
	Hey!
	Then he goes to say hello.
	So this happened earlier today.
	And it's made the rounds on the interwebs.
	And it's funny, but not funny.
	In the sense that, I'm going to keep this in the backdrop because we may want to come back to it.
	I hadn't seen Matt Connell look that surprised since he was totally caught not doing Cocaine!
	With a bunch of other people who looked equally guilty.
	You all remember this.
	This was in the news also the other day.
	There's a little...
	What is a white thing of...
	And then when they find out...
	Right.
	Five to four.
	Three, two, one.
	He realizes what's on the table.
	Oh dear.
	Look at the face.
	Yes, we have not seen Macron look that surprised for a little while.
	The official explanation that has been given by the Macron family is that they were playfully, I don't know, discussing something.
	Possible?
	Yes.
	Improbable?
	Yes.
	And the not-so-funny thing about this is it doesn't matter if it's woman-on-man, man-on-woman in any relationship.
	Man-on-man, woman-on-woman.
	If a partner puts their hands on your face and it's not in jest, I don't know, you're not pretending to apply chloroform or something.
	I'm just trying to make a joke.
	It's not funny.
	There's something going on there that that's not the first time that physicality has been applied to the other person's face.
	I don't believe the excuse for a minute.
	The joke going around the internet is that boys will be boys.
	The first person I saw make that joke was Vinny O'Shanna, a comic who's having a ton of material stolen from him on the internet.
	And every time I see someone ripping his amazingly hilarious bit where he pretends to be deaf and hearing his wife's voice for the first time, and people share that video, A, not knowing it was comedy, and B, not giving credit.
	You know what?
	For the sake of it, I might have to actually play that one because some people don't seem to know.
	Vinny Oshana, on this day, by the way, he's a vet, and on this Memorial Day, doesn't just deserve a thanks for his service.
	It deserves the credit for his comedic genius, people.
	This is the hilarious video from a while back.
	I'll turn the volume down so we don't blast our ears out.
	Adjustment.
	Got it.
	This is Vinny Oshana.
	Can you hear me?
	Look how young he is.
	Yeah.
	Can you hear the sound of your own voice?
	Yeah.
	Oh, Mary.
	Sergeant, thank you so much.
	I'm so excited.
	Thank you for giving such a raise.
	Mrs. Kelly.
	I'm on your cell phone now, baby.
	And you were talking to my dad.
	I'm on his head.
	I'm on his head.
	Whoa, whoa.
	Are you okay?
	Is that too loud?
	No, not too loud.
	The voice is annoying.
	You don't hear that?
	I have to hear this forever.
	Oh, there we go again, Doc.
	You know why this guy's smiling?
	Because he's probably dead, but he can't hear his wife's voice.
	Doc, please take it off.
	Help me, please.
	Relax.
	This is a celebration.
	Trust me, from one married man to another, You'll get used to it.
	I don't believe any word that came out of your mouth.
	Vinny O'Shanna is a comedic genius, people, and deserves all the credit not to have that video ripped and not give credit.
	Vinny O'Shanna on the Twitterverse.
	All right.
	Speaking of another man who deserves credit where credit is due, Steve Baker, peeps.
	You've seen him on this channel.
	we've had some, what they would call internet beef.
	Reasonable disagreement among adults I don't consider to be beef.
	Steve Baker is a, I guess, you know, a man forced into journalism.
	He was one of the Jan Sixers who was a journalist charged for the events of that day where he was documenting the Jan Six, had his run-ins and experience with the FBI, is now working at The Blaze.
	But at the risk of oversimplifying and not giving adequate props to Steve and his credentials, I shall bring Steve in right now.
	Everybody share the link around.
	We're live on Twitter, Rumble, and vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	We're going to talk about an article he's working on.
	Very interesting stuff.
	Wild stuff, actually.
	Some other general FBI news and whatever else comes across the table.
	Steve Baker, sir.
	How goes the battle?
	It's great.
	Good to be with you again, Viva.
	Now, the last time where we had the agreement to disagree, I believe, was on the Jake Lang story.
	So that was long before...
	There's one now where I've had my disagreement with Jake, which had to do with the stabbing of Austin Metcalf.
	Right.
	I even forget.
	Okay, I think I remember what the disagreement was.
	It doesn't matter.
	We agree to disagree and we are reasonable, responsible adults.
	Steve, for those who don't know who you are, 30,000 foot overview.
	I gave the Grok summary over in Locals, but for the world who's watching now.
	Yeah, I am a lifelong musician.
	I started writing when the internet started becoming a thing back in the early 90s.
	I started writing.
	If you remember those platforms, those ISPs, I guess they called them back then.
	And then AOL became MySpace and I had my first blog in the MySpace world.
	And then MySpace became Facebook.
	Facebook became a blog and podcasting and that sort of thing.
	And then one day, the government decided to shut the world down for this little thing called COVID when it came to town.
	And they weaponized me against them at that moment.
	For those who also don't know, you got charged for documenting January 6th.
	We talked about it at length, but briefly summarize that experience so people can understand your current perspective.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Again, the Reader's Digest elevator pitch condensed version of it is simply this, is that I was there as a journalist that day, fully intended to be.
	I had my backpack with my tripod, my camera, my back, you know, my extra battery packs.
	I had my, you know, all the things that I needed to do my job that day.
	I was actually there with another writer.
	We were going to cover the event.
	And of course, the event became something that we didn't expect.
	By the time we'd moved over to the Capitol, all of the barricades were gone.
	All of the Do Not Enter signs had been hidden and thrown away and shoved under bushes, that sort of thing.
	And I turned on my camera at 1.19 p.m.
	on the Lower West Terrace, caught the battle going on.
	I documented that for about...
	And when the line broke through, people started moving into the Capitol.
	And like myself and 80 other journalists that were on the outside documenting, we all moved in with the crowd.
	And there was only, you know, a very small handful of us, four or five of us, that actually were charged with, you know, the glorified trespassing charges and the other standard four misdemeanor charges.
	And I was one of those.
	And, of course, the other, you know.
	Coincidental, ironic thing about that is those of us that were charged, we tend to have a voice more on the right side of the political leaning aisle than the left.
	No one from that was charged.
	Well, the other journalist I had on, his last name was Horne.
	It was Jeremy Horne, right?
	I forget.
	There was a journalist Horne.
	Jeremy?
	I'm certain it was Jeremy Horne.
	Sorry, say that again?
	Stephen Horne.
	Stephen Horn, not Jeremy Horn.
	I'm not good with names, but I remember exactly what he looks like.
	What ultimately ended up happening with the charges that were brought against you?
	Well, you'll love this, okay, because the attorney side of you will appreciate this.
	So my pretrial hearing was the day after the election in November.
	The day after.
	All right.
	So when we stood before Judge Cooper in the pretrial hearing, myself and my four attorneys, he was not a happy man.
	He was not a happy camper at all.
	Just to give you a little background on Judge Cooper, Judge Cooper is not only the same judge that charged or threatened Catherine Herridge, then still with CBS, of contempt for not turning over her sources on a story, court ordered to turn over her sources, and she refused to do that.
	Same judge.
	He is also, ironically, again, coincidentally, I don't know.
	I don't know how he got to be my judge, but he was married by, the officiant of his wedding was none other than Attorney General Merrick Garland.
	That's who my judge was.
	So he was not a happy camper the day after the election.
	And after he went, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny.
	Throughout everything that we wanted to do, all of our emotions, everything that we had, would not let me bring the defense forward that we intended to bring, which was a selective prosecution defense, because why didn't you charge these other 80 journalists and you charged me?
	I behaved myself professionally on the day.
	Why me and not them?
	The government refused to allow, or the court did rather, refused to allow us to do that.
	The government opposed it as well.
	And then as soon as that pretrial hearing was over and Cooper looked at us and says, see you next Tuesday, gentlemen.
	Real cocksure.
	I got on a Zoom call with my attorneys and I said, okay, I'm not doing this.
	One of my attorneys said, well, you know, he said, you know that your trial is going to be nothing more than a shaming process, right?
	I said, yes, I know.
	That's why we're not doing it.
	So I'm instructing you to go to the court, go to the DOJ and tell them that I'm going to plead guilty on all four of my charges next Tuesday during what is supposed to be the beginning date of my trial.
	So that's what we did.
	So I stood before the judge.
	He really doesn't like me.
	Really wanted to put me in jail.
	And I pled guilty.
	And of course, I don't know if you know this about these charges, particularly related to January 6th.
	So you have the law.
	You have the statutes of what the law says.
	And even if you plead guilty to the exact language of the statute, they add to it.
	They've enhanced all of that.
	They've embellished it all so that you're basically pleading to misdemeanor terrorism.
	Because I had four nonviolent misdemeanor charges.
	By the time I'm reading them, and I'm going, I'm not going to read this crap.
	And basically, the judge is letting me know that he's going to hold me in contempt if I don't read it exactly the way it was written.
	I said, can I speak with my attorneys?
	I said, yes.
	Me and attorneys got off to the side.
	My lead attorney, former federal prosecutor for 23 years, he put his arm around me, and he says, just say the words.
	Just say the words.
	He said, you're going to have a chance to defend yourself.
	We're going to walk out in front of the cameras, in front of the courthouse, and we're going to do our press conference.
	You're going to have a chance to defend yourself there.
	But he said, more importantly, you know the pardons are coming.
	Okay?
	Just say the words.
	Okay.
	So I went back and stood before the judge.
	I said the words.
	And then he says, he goes, he looks at the clerk.
	He goes, when will Mr. Baker's sentencing date be?
	And she goes, type, type, type, type, type.
	She goes, Mr. Baker's sentencing date will be March the 6th at 10 a.m.
	All right?
	So this is happening on November 12th of last year, a week after the election.
	Because in case anybody didn't piece it together, it's the day after Trump won the election.
	So they know by and large that the pardons are coming at least for the nonviolent and especially for the journalists.
	And so this judge, who is...
	Yeah, exactly.
	So essentially my sentencing date is three months into the future.
	So he says to me, he says, Mr. Baker, your sentencing date is hereby set for March the 6th at 10 a.m.
	And then, Viva, you will not believe what he said.
	He said...
	I mean, they all knew that these pardons were coming.
	Since I'm not going to see you in March, he said, I'm going to hazard to deliver the remarks that I would normally deliver to...
	shot the front door.
	Yeah.
	He's like, I want to, oh my God.
	To deliver the marks that I would normally deliver to you during your sentencing hearing now.
	And he then began to dress me down.
	And this is the incredible part.
	He begins to dress me down.
	Not for my behavior on January 6th, because my behavior on January 6th was exemplary.
	I performed the duties, the tasks of a journalist.
	That's all I did was journalism.
	He dressed me down for the things that I had said in my journalism in the months and the years following.
	He actually criticized me and said these words.
	He said, he said, I hope that you've had time to rethink this.
	And I hope that you don't mean it when you talk about the weaponization of the Department of Justice and when you talk about the bias of this court.
	And then he went into a five minute embarrassing debate.
	And the hundreds and thousands of hours and the hundred trials that he's, J6 trials that he's overseen during that.
	And how, from my clerks to my, you know, everybody's been exemplary to the marshals.
	And he goes off defending himself.
	So when we get out and we do the press conference after our side, so, you know, guys from Washington Post and Associated Press are all there.
	And so I'm talking about this very thing that happened in the courtroom, and I pointed my finger at the Washington Post journalist that was in the courtroom, legal affairs writer, Spencer Hughes is his name, and I said, Spencer, you heard what that judge said.
	You heard him.
	He said, He starts dressing me down, not for my behavior on January 6th.
	Never mentions my behavior on January 6th.
	He dressed me down for my words and my journalism post-January 6th.
	This is the judge who appointed him.
	Oh, Barack Obama.
	All right.
	Amazing.
	I totally forgot that this all occurred since our last...
	Is there any audio?
	Is there a transcript of this?
	No, I have the transcript.
	We had to buy it.
	If you're a federal defendant, if you want a transcript of your court case, you have to pay for it.
	It's crazy.
	So he dresses you down.
	Ultimately, he says, come back and march for your sentencing, but you get the pardon on whenever it was, January 21st?
	January 20th.
	January 20th.
	The pardons came down that night, but I didn't get a pardon.
	I got a case dismissal with prejudice.
	And let me explain why that happened.
	Under federal law of the United States, you are not officially convicted until you are sentenced.
	And I knew this.
	And we knew this was part of the plan, worked out with my attorneys as part of the strategy.
	I got lucky on the date.
	I mean, I just got lucky that the date of my trial was scheduled for in between the election and the inauguration.
	And then my sentencing here was scheduled, you know, a month and a half after the inauguration.
	And so as a result of me never going to sentencing, I technically was never guilty.
	It's like it under federal law.
	It never happened.
	Although I did.
	Did you get a formal document from the president?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I've got the signature of the judge signing off.
	He was forced to sign off on my...
	And he didn't do it without making a commentary at the bottom.
	Most of the judges didn't do that.
	In fact, there were a few...
	What an absolute pathological asshole.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and Dr. Simone Gold from the Frontline Doctors, you know who that is?
	Simone Gold, she was a major character, one of the first ones to stand up against the COVID regime early, early on, got deplatformed, licenses, dealing with, taking away, all this other stuff.
	She's an attorney and a doctor, a medical doctor, and that was her judge as well.
	And she actually took a plea deal.
	Even though she took a plea deal to a single misdemeanor charge, that judge put her in prison for two months, 60 days, and told her in her sentencing hearing, he said, and this is an exact quote.
	I'll never forget this because he used the word ain't.
	He said, January 6th is about a lot of things.
	What it ain't about is the First Amendment.
	And I'm like, No, Judge Cooper, I'm sorry, for 99.998% of the people there that day, it was 100% about the first amendment.
	Yeah, it's wild.
	They are purely activist judges who are still in power, and despite Trump being in power, and now what we're seeing coming out of the judiciary makes total sense, because these judges are still around, wielding their levers of power.
	I mean, that's amazing.
	Does it feel to finally have the charges dismissed and you're a free man?
	It's funny.
	One of the first interviews I did after this was all over with.
	Well, no, sorry, not one of the first interviews, but the first time that I was on Glenn Beck's show after the interview.
	I mean, after the pardons and countervisions.
	And he said, I haven't seen you since it was all wiped away.
	How does it feel?
	And I said, that's a great question because I didn't know how it felt beforehand because the stress and the burden and that heavy load that you're carrying, it's embedded in your subconscious.
	It took me a week.
	After the pardons came down for me finally to realize that some tremendous weight had been lifted off of me and that I'd been carrying that around for some three years at that point.
	How much did you end up spending on lawyers in this?
	How much did the lawyers cost in this, I should say?
	I had five attorneys with me on this.
	Every one of them worked pro bono.
	That's fair.
	I mean, it's amazing.
	Federal prosecutors, yeah.
	That's amazing.
	I mean, not everyone had that good fortune, but the process was the punishment, and we all knew it.
	Not to get political here, but what's your opinion assessment on Trump having pardoned all of the Jan Sixers, including the, let's say, so-called violent ones, but even the ones who committed acts of violence?
	Well, you know, this is where we get into that difference of opinion with a lot of people.
	I was 100% behind blanket pardons for everyone, even the most violent offenders.
	And let me explain how I came around to that.
	I wasn't all the way that way.
	But if you were like me and you attended those trials to cover them as a journalist, as I did, including Stephen Horn's trial, I was there every day for his trial and others, and you saw how the.
	why I wrote Judge Cooper about the weaponization of the Department of Justice, because I watched it with my own eyes, not only by my personal experience, but by covering the trials that I did.
	And I watched it happen with my own eyes.
	I watched the denial of discovery.
	I watched them hide discovery.
	I watched the DOJ suborn perjury of federal officers.
	I watch these things over and over and over again.
	And ultimately, at the end of the day, the number one problem is, whether it was Jake Lang with a baseball bat and a shield and a gas mask going, hitting cops, or it was me or Stephen Horn behaving peacefully as journalists in the Capitol that day.
	The one thing that the government was intent on doing through the January 6th process was to criminalize the intent of the mind.
	They were trying to make thought correctness, Because what they ultimately went after me for, Ryan Riley from NBC News, this is what he said, this is what he tweeted out on the day that I was arrested on March 1st of 2023.
	He said, had Steve Baker not said what he said after the event that day, these charges most certainly would not have been brought.
	Now, what I said from my hotel room in Virginia, off the campus that night, At 9 o 'clock, when we threw a camera on me and another journalist who happens to be my best friend, and we've got adult beverages and ice clinking in our hands, and there's a news story on television.
	And the news story that's happening that day on January 6th is that somebody allegedly has stolen Nancy Pelosi's laptop, right?
	So we're joking about it.
	You have two best friends, two journalists going, and I said, man.
	My biggest regret of the day is that I didn't steal Nancy Pelosi's laptop.
	You can imagine what I would have learned about the government if I'd had that in my hands.
	Well, I'm an investigative journalist.
	I'm joking about it.
	We're clearly joking about it.
	That line, Viva, ends up in my statement of facts written by the damn FBI agent who had my case, Craig Noyes.
	And in that, he was implying that that was my mindset of the day and therefore I was part of the mob.
	And just highlight this, because you got arrested two years and three months after the event.
	Two years and two months?
	No, three years.
	Sorry, I said 2003.
	I mean, 23. It was 2024 that I was arrested.
	March 1st.
	You got arrested three years after the event.
	When did you make the joke about wishing you had stolen her laptop?
	That night in my hotel room on January 6th, on a live stream we were doing.
	It's mind-boggling.
	The amazing thing is that Trump actually survived, got elected, and followed through on the parties.
	I, too, was not 50-50.
	At the beginning, at the early stages, before they actually had their constitutional rights violated, you say, yeah, pardons for the non-violent, and then you can go by case-by-case basis for the violent ones, so-called violence.
	Once we lived through it, and we saw the degree to which the constitutional rights were violated, Brady obligations violated, evidence withheld, he's like, okay, fine, they might have been guilty, but you screwed it up, and so they all need just a flat-out blanket pardon, because you can't go case by case and say, well, where was the evidence tainted here, and how much were their constitutional rights violated here?
	It's a miracle that it happened, and you are on the receiving end of that miracle, because had things not occurred the way they did on July 13, you'd probably be sitting, you might be out of jail by now.
	But you might have gone to jail for a good six months to a year.
	That's right.
	I was convinced that he was going to give me 60 days to six months, something like that.
	I was fairly well convinced of that.
	That's wild.
	That's amazing.
	Congratulations.
	Enjoy your freedom.
	It's a rebirth of sorts for thousands of people.
	Now, you're making the most of the rebirth.
	Steve, you sent me this article, and it's a bit of a lengthy article.
	read it through and I said, my goodness, we're going to have fun talking about it because there's a lot of detail in this.
	And I was talking about it with Encryptus, who's helping with the show behind the scenes.
	And like, I didn't know about this until you sent it to me.
	I think I've heard the name Corey Mills from time to time, but this seems like a mildly interesting big story, if not only for the entire episode.
	And it's going to dovetail into a lot of what we're going to discuss after this.
	But you published this piece last week and then flipped it to me.
	And then Sally came about having this interview live stream.
	I mean, I'll flesh this out as we get through this, but tell us what's going on with Corey Mills, what the underlying story is that has then bled into what?
	You're going to tell me this.
	But what's the underlying story with Corey Mills, and how does it get the FBI involved?
	Here's the simplicity of the story arc.
	A couple of journalists from Blaze Media, including Glenn Beck, caught Corey Mills in a lie.
	A lie that he told them to their face.
	This was late February.
	We'll go back.
	We'll come back to that, the genesis of the story.
	As a result of that, So journalists from Blaze Media, there's probably been about four or five, six of us working on this particular story, began to pull back the layers on who he is, and we suddenly discovered that he's had years-long accusations of stolen valor, things that occurred or didn't occur.
	During his military career, which is only about four or five years, and then things that occurred and must not really have occurred during his time working for a military contractor over in the desert, Middle East, and then all of the sources that were coming forward and the organizations that actually deal with these kinds of things, issues of stolen valor, had been compiling this information about him for some time.
	Let me stop you right there.
	For people who don't know who Corey Mills is, Republican, congressional representative for, I don't know what district it is of Florida.
	He's the 7th District of Florida.
	How long has he been in politics for?
	He just won his second term.
	So he only came into Congress in the 2023, January.
	Okay.
	And now he's...
	The accusations of stolen valor, I mean...
	When it came to, what's his face?
	Tim Walls.
	And a lot of us harped on the stolen valor, not because it was potentially criminal, though there are laws that touch claims for stolen value when it's used to defraud.
	But we made fun of him because you deserve to get made fun of for claiming to have carried a firearm or a gun in battle when you never did.
	And letting people believe that in order to...
	What were Corey Mills' allegations of stolen valor?
	Having deeds of heroism and daring do that led to his Bronze Star, which actually what he got was he got the version of the Bronze Star that is nothing more than, you know, every kid gets a trophy after the soccer game kind of award where everybody had a certain rank in this one particular division.
	The general just does a blanket Bronze Star for everybody.
	Whether you ever were even deployed or all you ever did was sit behind a desk and, you know, you were an accountant, you got a Bronze Star, one of those types of awards.
	And then the other thing is, I mean, there's quite a few episodes.
	He claimed that he was blown up twice by IEDs.
	We have him on an hour long conversation with one of our own journalists, where not only does he admit that he never was blown up by an IED, but he was only in one IED incident.
	Although that his story is still on his website in which he campaigned on was that he twice survived IED attacks.
	We have him admitting to us on a phone call on the record that he's And then there was the stories of him being a ranger, which he wasn't.
	Then there's the stories of him being a trained sniper, which he wasn't.
	He was a medic.
	He was a trained medic.
	And then the stories go on and on from there.
	So there's others.
	So many of the individuals that served with him, as I said, both during his time in the Army as well as with him.
	When he was with a company called DimeCorp, which is one of those Blackwater-type military contractors, private security contractors, they had issues there.
	In fact, it got so bad while he was at DimeCorp, they even fired him for his alleged stolen valor issues.
	So there are people that have been working on this for years, which brings us to, and again, I'm skipping over a lot, but this brings us to where we are today.
	These people that have been working on this for quite some time, back last November, 24, a couple of them got approached by an FBI agent, legitimately an FBI agent, an email with the government email address and the letterhead and everything else.
	And the FBI agent was Shea Talley Bradley?
	Yep, Shea D. Tally Bradley.
	Look, you go for political orientation, and people assume, to see where this is going, they might assume that she was conservative-leaning, trying to protect Corey Mills, or just rogue.
	Do you know of her ideological perspective?
	Is she a lefty?
	Is she a righty?
	Or do you not know?
	We know nothing about her politics.
	We do know that she retired from the army as a full-bird colonel.
	Yeah, she's a colonel and was a retired Army colonel.
	So I think she did 10 years active duty, 19 years in the reserve.
	Sometime during the reserve period, you know, when you're playing the role of weekend warrior, she joined the FBI.
	We don't actually know what her intake date was with the FBI, but she's been around there for a while now.
	And so this Shea Talley Bradley, or as I affectionately refer to as Agent Shea Shea, but anyway, she started reaching out to these Individuals who for years have been compiling this information, putting together about allegations of Corey Mills' stolen valor.
	And when she presents herself to them, she is presenting herself to them as though she is investigating the allegations of stolen valor herself on behalf of a sanctioned referral from the FBI.
	This is where it gets really interesting.
	She's claiming to be running an authorized investigation, so these individuals who have been doing this for years, these are people that do this kind of thing because stolen valor is important to them.
	There's even an organization that for 20 years has been collecting information about these kind of things called Warriors of Valor.
	That's what they do.
	They hunt down...
	So they're working both sides of that.
	If I can pause you there, actually, because on that point, in French we say les absents ont toujours tort, so those who aren't there are always wrong.
	Corey Mills set aside the allegations of stolen valor.
	Still has a pretty impressive resume as far as military service goes.
	And so some question, why do you even have to exaggerate?
	Tim Walls, for example.
	The fact that he was in the National Guard for 16 years itself is honorable enough.
	Why even bother exaggerating?
	Did Corey offer any defense?
	Yeah.
	Let's just sit on that for a moment.
	Good question, but let's sit on that one for a moment.
	So when this agent, Agent Sheche, starts coming up to all of these sources of ours and presenting herself as doing a sanctioned investigation into Corey Mills Stolen Valor, these people are ecstatic.
	Finally, we got this to the FBI because in some cases they had been talking to the FDLE here in Florida.
	That's the Florida Department of Law Enforcement who were doing investigations into Stolen Valor on Corey Mills themselves.
	And so they had been sharing information with FDLE and Florida.
	Now it's been escalated to the FBI.
	So they're just giving them everything.
	She's just piling on.
	I mean, these sources are giving them all the documents, all their research, everything that they have.
	Because they think, this is it.
	We got him.
	We got him.
	Right?
	Except, all of a sudden, one day, she goes, ah.
	It's not really about stolen valor anymore for us.
	We're going to drop that.
	There's not enough there there.
	There's too much plausible deniability for him.
	So, by the way, what do you know about his business dealings overseas?
	You see, because Corey Mills, since 2014-ish, after he married an Iraqi woman at the most notorious mosque in America, in Falls Church, Virginia, by one of the most notorious and radicalized imams in America.
	One of the imams who I now know was involved in, was an unindicted co-conspirator during the first World Trade Center bombing, if I'm not mistaken.
	That's correct, in 1993.
	Exactly correct.
	An imam who absolutely would not have married Corey Mills if he was, in fact, a Christian or Catholic, as he claimed to be at the time, would not have married him by rule.
	They couldn't have.
	And certainly not inside the mosque and not with a, you know, Islamic ceremony as it was performed.
	And so the agent switches gears and says, we're, we at the FBI, we at the FBI are no longer investigating him for stolen valor.
	What do you know about his business dealings?
	This is still, this is Shay Shay who's still doing this.
	Yeah, this is, this is agent Shay Shay.
	Okay.
	So agent Shay Shay.
	They might be thinking, oh, maybe I've opened a box that's even more serious than the soul and valor allegations if this guy's involved in some shady international dealings.
	So I presume they're still interested and still collaborating or cooperating with this FBI agent who hasn't really, I know I'm getting ahead of the punchline, hasn't really identified herself as acting for and on behalf of the FBI in the context of an official investigation.
	So, and I said we're going to go back to the genesis of the story here in a moment.
	But bringing it forward towards the end of her investigative time in this is that at one point, if this was April 11th, one of our sources for our story, we've already been on the story for a month and a half, something to that effect.
	And one of our sources on April 11th did her second sit.
	Sit down interview in a Starbucks with Agent Shay Shay.
	And this is when Shay Shay told her, we're no longer interested in pursuing the stolen valor issues.
	What do you know about the business, his weapons trading business overseas?
	And then the agent asked this source.
	Her name is Jade.
	She's actually now, by the way, coincidentally, Agent Shay Shay just happens to live.
	And work out of the Orlando resident agency of the FBI.
	That's Corey Mills' district.
	And she sits down with Jade, who you see her lovely picture here on the screen right now.
	Owner and operator of CoreyMillsWatch.com.
	This is from your article.
	A website dedicated to investigating Mills.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So that's what she's doing.
	She's operating of CoreyMillsWatch.com.
	And so the agent sits down with her and then says, Would you be interested in becoming a confidential human source and get paid for it?
	Do they talk salary?
	What do confidential human sources get?
	From the Gretchen Whitmer Fednapping plot, I know it's in the order of $50,000 to $60,000, but does it get to $100,000 if you do a really good job?
	Oh, yeah.
	As a matter of fact, one of my closest confidants in the entire intelligence community is the former highest-paid CHS in FBI history.
	What was the ballpark?
	He would never let me talk about that.
	There's not enough you could pay me.
	You'll tell me whether or not you have any faith in any of the institution or the individuals behind the FBI.
	The rank and file.
	To me, you're messing around with tentacles of an organization that you don't know where they're going to go next.
	You take that money, and that money is definitely not free, and it's definitely with you for the rest of your life.
	Sorry, so I cut you off there.
	Okay, so carry on.
	So you saw the photo of the lovely lady there, Jade.
	Jade has offered the opportunity to be a CHS for the FBI.
	She said yes, because again, she's still believing that Agent Sheche is working a sanctioned investigation on behalf of the FBI to take out Corey Mills.
	Let me ask you another obvious question.
	Does Jade, let me put it back here, that she said yes, and I presume she authorized you to run with the article, she doesn't mind people knowing that she accepted an offer to be a CHS for the FBI?
	No, she does not.
	I mean, she gave us that information on the record, and the reason why is because she's just trying to get the truth out there about what happened to her and the other sources that we had on this story.
	And so she agrees to that, and then after she agrees to it, then Shay Shay becomes more specific and says, well, what we really need from you is we need you to go undercover for us to investigate another lady involved in this process.
	Okay.
	And now we get to go to the genesis of the story.
	Who's the other lady that she's being asked to investigate?
	So, there was a big storm.
	This is wild.
	This is wild.
	This is straight out.
	Unless people know the players, they might not care about this.
	But this is wild level, like house of cards stuff that can cause people to have additional fears and concerns about The rank and file at the FBI.
	Okay, sorry.
	Now, who is the person that Agent Shay Shay is asking Jade to go and potentially investigate?
	So I'm a storyteller now.
	We have to go back in time a little bit, and we can now go to the genesis of the story, and I will reveal the answer to your question.
	So the genesis of this story begins in Western North Carolina, just a couple of days after Hurricane Helene went through Western North Carolina and just wiped cities off the map up there.
	And Glenn Beck and two of our other reporters from the Blaze were on the helicopter with him up there, where they landed at one of the relief centers that had been set up by some special forces operatives, that sort of thing.
	And then they began to go interview FEMA and all the other things that were happening in those early days.
	The two journalists that arrived with Glenn Beck from the Blaze were our national correspondent, basically our riot-chasing journalist, Julio Rosa, and then also Jill Savage, who hosts Blaze News Tonight in our program called The Mandate.
	Jill is there with Glenn, and they do their thing that day, and then they get back on the helicopter with Corey, because Corey's up there doing Corey Mills.
	Congressman Corey Mills, he's in the middle of a campaign in Florida, right?
	In late September, early March.
	He's in the, you know, early October.
	He's in the middle of a battle in his home district here in Florida.
	So he's up there doing Captain America stuff and rescuing people, you know, with helicopters in western North Carolina, the mountains there.
	Stuff that he's known for.
	And so they're on the helicopter and they're flying back to the airport so that Jill and Julio and Glenn Beck can go back to Dallas.
	And they're on the helicopter with Corey.
	And the congressman suddenly gets very melodramatic and he starts telling the stories about him being very lonely.
	You know, he's going through a divorce of his wife since, you know, 2014.
	They've been going through this divorce for, you know, He's very lonely.
	He hasn't been with anybody in a year.
	And Viva, he's flirting with Jill.
	He's a good-looking guy, congressman, made tens of millions of dollars in his weapons trading business.
	And he's flirting with Jill.
	They exchange numbers.
	They never go out.
	But they talk.
	She's in Dallas.
	He's in D.C. and Florida.
	Is he divorced from his first wife at this point?
	He is not divorced.
	But then you skip forward from the end of September of last year till the end of February of this year, and suddenly a news event happens in D.C. at Corey Mills' luxury penthouse apartment.
	There's been cops called to his penthouse because of a domestic violence issue in which was called in by his 27-year-old live-in Iranian girlfriend.
	And the police report says that they had been living together for over a year.
	This is a girlfriend, not his initial wife.
	Also, I do feel compelled to steal, man, for those who are not here.
	Because I do remember it at the time.
	That he was doing good work for assisting in North Carolina.
	I remember that.
	As you were talking about it, I remember this occurring, where he was, because he had access to helicopters, was doing what FEMA was incapable of doing, and I dare say receiving the praise that he deserved at the time.
	As he has also done in Israel, as he has also done in, I think, Haiti, as he has done in Afghanistan.
	My question is whether or not he is the true newsworthy element of the story or the potentially rogue elements of the FBI.
	Okay, so he's doing this, potentially flirting.
	Now he's got a girlfriend who's not his wife, but he's not divorced from his original wife that he married.
	Okay.
	Okay, adults are adults.
	So we fast forward.
	There's a domestic disturbance that police are called for.
	Okay, now what?
	Well, you go back, like I said, the last days of September or the first days of March when they're on the helicopter together and he says, I'm lonely.
	I haven't been with anybody in over a year.
	Going through a divorce.
	He's laying out the sob story as he's basically using that as his pickup line for Jill.
	And so then suddenly in late February, this incident happens and it becomes known that, well, actually he has been with somebody for over a year.
	And that's who we call her.
	Well, I better not say what we call her.
	But anyway, we'll go with our first name, Sarah.
	But anyway, so Sarah is...
	And now you have the realization that three of our people at the Blaze have been lied to by the congressman.
	And the question then is, is if he's going to lie to us about that, what else is he lying about?
	And then it was game on.
	Okay, it's interesting.
	I'm going to steel ban a lot of this as we keep going.
	So he lies.
	There might be an argument as to whether or not he exaggerated or what's the word?
	There's a word for embellished his military service.
	He's in an unhappy marriage.
	People divorce all the time.
	People have affairs all the time.
	Set that aside.
	Now I'm very curious about this agent.
	So the agent, Shay Shay, who purportedly was looking into the stolen valor, then starts to move it out to his businesses.
	So who was she asking Jade to be the CHS for to investigate?
	There was only one other woman involved in all of this.
	None of the prime sources, none of the secondary sources and researchers outside of Jade.
	There's only three women involved in this story.
	It's Agent Shea Shea, Shea Talley Bradley, former Army Colonel.
	And then the only other woman involved in this is Jill Savage, host of The Mandate on Blaze TV.
	Who Corey was trying to pick up.
	Okay.
	And so...
	Okay.
	But so what is the...
	then what is the sinister plot of what Shea Shea is doing?
	Is Agent Shea trying to take down or take out potentially?
	Above and beyond?
	There's only two things that, there's only two, well, there's a third, but there's only two primary entities or individuals that Agent Sheche can be working for.
	First of all, she works for the FBI.
	Ostensibly, that's what you first believe when she flashes your badge at one of our sources and says, hi, I'm with the FBI.
	I'm here to help.
	You know, Reagan's famous, you know, nine words you don't want to hear.
	It's especially scary when the FBI does it.
	I mean, the government's one thing, you know, like they have animal rescue or whatever, but yes.
	Okay.
	And so you have the initial belief from the three sources that we quote in this story that they all believe that they were reporting to the FBI their research that they had been engaged in for many years in some cases.
	and then that rug is pulled out from underneath them and then we want to In fact, she even went so far with another one of our sources and, you know, don't send me anything else.
	Just stop, stop, stop.
	In fact, the quote was, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't send me anything else.
	And with Jade, Agent Shea Shea said, no, don't send me any of these documents to my FBI email address.
	Suddenly she's starting to change and suddenly our sources are starting to get nervous and really wondering what she is investigating.
	Is she investigating?
	Corey Mills, or is she investigating us?
	Is she looking in to see what we know about Congressman Mills?
	Well, so it's interesting.
	And that was my initial reaction when reading your article that she's acting as sort of call it a an intelligence defense contractor for Corey Mills.
	But then the more you talk about this, if this is a rogue FBI agent who maybe wants to take out Corey Mills because he's.
	Realizes that she can't do it on the stolen valor because there's not enough there.
	Then starts looking into his arms dealing overseas and whatever.
	And maybe she'll take out two birds with one stone.
	Try to take out Cory Mills.
	But if she can't, see what the Blaze knows and go after the Blaze and try to somehow sabotage the Blaze.
	Because it doesn't seem like she's acting necessarily for and on behalf of Corey Mills at this point, though she doesn't seem to be If she's indeed investigating Corey Mills, do we know at all?
	Has it been confirmed who and on behalf of in the context of what file she's even acting or still not as of yet?
	You being a lawyer, this is where I have to be careful.
	I have to use the word alleged and maybe and possibly and probably and could be, might be.
	I believe.
	My personal opinion.
	Right, right.
	Right.
	My personal opinion.
	Well, let me, let me just, uh, And it's in the story.
	And I encourage everybody to go to TheBlaze.com, find this story.
	And this was the fourth Viva in a series of stories we're doing on Corey Mills.
	This is our fourth one.
	This is not the first story on this.
	We're pretty deep into this right now.
	But embedded in the story itself is, I mean, you don't break through to the top level of the FBI to get answers.
	And you know, and I know that the one pat claptrap answer you always get from the FBI is...
	Period.
	That's correct.
	Correct.
	Now, my personal reason, I have spoken to several retired FBI agents who did their 20-plus years, retired with honor.
	I have spoken to current existing FBI agents about this.
	I have read them this quote, and every one of them says, wow, just wow.
	Never seen that from the Bureau in my entire career.
	And here's how it goes.
	We are not aware of the conduct in question, but we'll review the matter immediately, an FBI spokesperson told the Blaze.
	As always, any unethical behavior will be addressed swiftly and appropriately.
	Senior leadership has been made aware of the situation.
	And when I say senior leadership, I can tell you that we went all the way to the top on that.
	And General Counsel.
	It's very interesting.
	not to oversimplify or reduce this to high school drama.
	It sounds like you guys have issues with Corey because when someone's not honest with you, that'll leave a lasting impact.
	If the dirtiest of the dirt on Corey, there's a whole...
	The thing about whether or not...
	Okay, get divorced, fine, have an affair, fine.
	These are all things which I say you reduce your life expectancy and you reduce your financial success by doing these types of things, but it's to each their own.
	To me, so you guys, you know, you might want the story on Corey.
	The question is here, is Agent Shea actually trying to take out...
	trying to take down respected representatives like Corey Mills or respected journalists and journalism like The Blaze, or both.
	And gathering information to see what they can do internally with it.
	Or the other possibility is that she was in fact collecting information for Congressman Mills so that he can get ahead of it and find out what these journalists know and what they're learning and what they, you know, what they have on him and what they're going to be publishing in the not too distant future.
	And the, and again, if I'm, if I'm to come down on one side of the story, that's the least nefarious of the options that we've already laid out and put on the table right now is that she was, First of all, it's absolutely impossible that the FBI is running an op, a legitimate investigation into a sitting member of Congress without the seventh floor of the Hoover building knowing about it.
	It's not because it can't happen.
	It has to go through multiple layers of approval.
	It's called a SIM.
	It's a special investigative matter.
	And as a result of that, they have to get approval all the way up to the DOJ itself, probably from the Department of Justice.
	Now, because her investigation started during the last administration, maybe she did get permission from Merrick Garland.
	Maybe she did get permission from Christopher Wray and his general counsel.
	Maybe that's where it all began.
	But the problem with that is that would be a keystroke away.
	Yeah, unless it was three keystrokes away because they already alt-control deleted that before the new administration came in.
	That's a very, very relevant fact that this was initiated, or at least it began.
	It commenced under the Biden administration and not subsequent to.
	So the idea that this would be off the records or informal can be one of two things.
	It's either because Do you know if they had any prior existing relationship, Corey and Detective Shea or Agent Shea?
	We've not been able to determine that or make those connections yet.
	We're working through additional sources to try and see what those connections possibly be.
	I kind of doubt that there were connections going back to the military, although there may have been some overlap because she was around for a long time, longer than he was, obviously, in the military.
	There could have been some overlap, but I don't think that there were any identifiable overlaps and deployments, that sort of thing.
	If I were to just conjecture right here, I would say they probably met at some wine and cheese party in Orlando at some political event, and he found out that she was a special investigator with the FBI.
	She's in his district.
	Hey, I've got a little problem.
	I've got these guys that are looking into these lies about me, about stolen valor, etc., etc., etc., and I really just need to know what's going on.
	You think you could help me out with that a little bit?
	I mean, that's my feelings on it.
	And again, that's the most nefarious idea that I have, or least nefarious, rather, idea that I have right now.
	Let me ask you this.
	What is the most nefarious that you've come up with, or that you've hypothesized?
	You don't become an international arms trader without approval, and you're working for our own behest of the CIA.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, okay.
	And you don't suddenly get a $228 million grant from the government within a year after marrying an Iraqi woman for a business, a startup business.
	Which administration was in power when that happened?
	That would have been the Obama administration.
	Yeah, or...
	Okay, so...
	So the story got published.
	Have you asked for FOIA requests?
	I mean, have you made a FOIA request for any and all correspondence involving Agent Shea and /or anyone else during a certain time frame?
	We actually have all of the correspondence between Agent Sheche and all of our sources.
	We have screenshots of everything, all of the text communications.
	This is the other thing.
	This is what began to make people nervous, and even our sources were nervous about this.
	And it's what attracted me at first, was all of her methods and operations, her policy, her procedures in her investigation with our sources never comported with typical FBI behavior.
	It was always really casual.
	There was never the second agent.
	The partner agent was never there in the personal.
	She never recorded any of the things that she did.
	If you're talking to somebody, you can do an interview over the phone with the FBI.
	I'm going to record you.
	Is that okay?
	Yeah, it's okay.
	You'll hear a tone.
	When you hear the tone, it came on.
	She never recorded the sit-down meeting.
	She never took notes at the sit down meetings.
	And so, you know, it's like.
	You know, something is wrong with this.
	And then in addition to that, when she started flipping on the story after getting all the information she could about Stolen Valor, wanted to know about the business trading, business deals, and then the recruitment to investigate this other lady, All of these things just did not add up.
	And so, you know, look, I have a very, very long list.
	When I have questions about how things are handled in those bureaus, those agencies, those departments, I call them and ask them.
	And they're like you.
	they're going to hold my feet to the fire and say yeah I do that I've done casual interviews just over a cup of coffee and never took I've done that before.
	But never one that lasted this many months.
	Because she started this with our sources back in November of last year.
	And this carried through all the way up until the 6th and or 7th of May when we ran our first story on Corey Mills, May 7th.
	That was it.
	She never contacted one of our sources again.
	And let me give you one more thing.
	So when I talk about our sources, Our sources on this story, who we quote on this story, are the people who have been doing the research into Stolen Valor and other issues related to Corey Mills' past.
	All right, that's who our sources are.
	These are the people who have been doing that hard work for a long time.
	But then there's the prime sources.
	These are the individuals that actually served with Corey Mills in the Army, served with him at DynCorp, and in some cases worked for his company, PACEM, P-A-C-E-M.
	International, whatever it is.
	And this agent, even though our sources gave this agent the names of the prime sources, as of the date of the publication of our story, she had never contacted the primes.
	If you're an investigative agent, the prime source is the source.
	That's who you go to.
	All right, very interesting.
	And you are expecting news now or updates from the higher-ups within the FBI as to whether or not this was sanctioned or off the books or totally improper conduct?
	I don't expect that I'll ever hear another damn word from the seventh floor of the Hoover Building, okay?
	At least not on this story.
	And let me explain why.
	The statement they gave us is so unprecedented that I don't think that we'll...
	The most likely thing that will happen is that we'll learn through the grapevine, because we do have people positioned in Florida in the Bureau.
	We will hear from the grapevine that she's either been suspended or, you know, as they do, they'll take their gun and their badge away from them and march them out of the building and suspend them without pay for a thousand days or something like that.
	But she'll either be suspended or sanctioned in some manner.
	And then that's probably the only way that we will ever hear about it because they're not going to reveal how they're investigating her.
	But all I can tell you here without dishonoring my sources in the FBI in D.C. is that there is an investigation, as the statement implies that they gave us, and that it has been run up to the highest levels.
	They've all been briefed on it.
	And that we will learn more about this, Viva, through our continued work on Corey.
	That's where we're going to learn more about this.
	And by the way, in the story, there's a video link.
	In her capacity as a retired colonel of the Army, this past Thursday in a suburb of Orlando, spoke at a Memorial Day event, which I attended, along with a couple of people helping me, and we ambushed her.
	And I asked her, you know, first of all, none of the advertisement for this event.
	local media there and the It only mentioned her capacity as being a retired colonel of the Army.
	And all of the ads ran for this event.
	The city website, et cetera, et cetera.
	And so when it was all over and said and done, because we weren't going to, you know, look, we weren't going to dishonor a Memorial Day event.
	We were not going to create a scene for that.
	So we held our fire, held our fire.
	We waited, we waited, waited.
	And once she was finally alone and walking outside on the sidewalk, I approached her very calmly, very gently.
	I didn't do the typical ambush journalism thing, you know, get the microphone up in her face.
	But I just asked her very simply.
	I said, aren't you also an FBI agent?
	And she goes, I don't know.
	Am I?
	I don't know about that.
	And then the next three or four questions I asked her, she said, I don't know what you're talking about.
	I asked her about her relationship with Corey Mills.
	I asked her if she tried to recruit one of our sources to investigate one of our own reporters.
	She goes, I don't know what you're talking about.
	I mean, she denied any knowledge of anything going on with Corey Mills at all.
	Well, it's very interesting.
	We'll be following that and take this as the opportunity to say, to wish everyone out there a meaningful Memorial Day.
	Tangential, because this is going to be related to the story, but we'll be keeping for the, you know, wait for the follow-up.
	Your sources don't want to ask for it, obviously don't want to disclose sources and nothing like that.
	What is your understanding of what the current administration, the current FBI is doing to purge these, what many believe to be Bad faith partisan activists within the institution that might number anywhere between 10 and 20,000 of the rank and file.
	Do you know if the current administration is doing anything to purge the FBI of its corrupt elements?
	Well, if we read their Twitters or their Exa posts, it's, you know, unfortunately, it's just follow the plan and wait.
	You know, it's coming.
	Now, all right, so I'm going to be...
	The Blaze has a long time good reputation and good relationship standing with both Bongino and Cash Patel.
	All right.
	And I don't want to do anything to ruin that.
	But I will tell you after.
	You're wanting us to believe these things.
	Dan Bongino, you have done a 180-degree flip on a couple of these issues now.
	Very specifically, Epstein did kill himself.
	Butler Shooter was acting alone, neither of which Dan believed when he was a radio guy, and he seems to have flipped on both of those.
	And all we're asking from Blaze's official is, because it's now no longer an open investigation, you can show us the truth.
	When it's an open investigation, yes, we know, FBI, you can't talk about it.
	Well, if it's closed, if this is a closed case, show us.
	Show us what you know.
	Show us what you discovered.
	You can do that without revealing your practices and methods.
	Let me bring up Glenn's tweet on the subject, which was...
	Yeah, this is it.
	It says, Glenn Beck, FBI Director Cash and Bongino now claim they believe Epstein's death was suicide.
	They didn't used to believe that.
	I still don't believe that.
	However, I know Dan Bongino.
	I know he's a credible guy.
	He loves his country.
	I know Kash Patel.
	I think he's an honorable guy.
	He loves his country.
	But in order for me to believe Epstein killed himself, the FBI must produce, one, the full unredacted forensic and autopsy reports, two, the surveillance footage or sworn testimony from neutral parties confirming no foul play went down, three, the entire timeline of that camera, the video leading up to it when it went out, the exact moment it turned off, why it broke, and why the most high-profile prisoner in America was removed from suicide watch just days before, four, most of all, What changed Patel and Bongino's minds?
	I tend to believe Patel and Bongino, I don't believe there's some sort of conspiracy inside MAGA, but I also believe that Epstein didn't kill himself with a paper sheet, so show us the facts.
	We must restore trust.
	The issue, and Dan mentioned a file, the first question everybody had is, well, let us see the file, one, and two, who prepared that file?
	If it's the file prepared by a corrupt, weaponized, Murderous FBI before Dan and Cash came in.
	How much can you rely on that?
	The second question goes to Butler because it's one thing to say the Epstein case is closed.
	I did not take that away from the answer as relates to Butler.
	Is it your impression, or at least Glenn Beck's, that the Butler case is now closed?
	I didn't get that impression, but a lot of people have that impression.
	I got the impression that, at the very least, they're leaning to the lone gunman acted alone theory on that.
	And I will tell you that I'm totally not in that camp.
	I'm not in that camp in the least.
	All of our sourcing from the special ops and the IC community do not believe that this was a lone gunman.
	They believe that he was a groomed young man.
	Groomed by professionals like themselves.
	We're talking about individuals that have done this overseas.
	This is what they do in the hot spots around the world, is they groom young men to be weapons or to be useful at the time when need arises.
	And when they saw the way Thomas Crooks behaved that day, they saw, as they said to me, I saw my own handiwork in that young man.
	That is, and I won't ask you who said that, but that's fascinating in a sinister sense.
	Set aside that.
	It's the same thing with Epstein.
	If Epstein, in the literal technical sense, with his own hands, took his own life, fine.
	That it was facilitated to happen by cameras going off, security guards being asleep or removed.
	That it was facilitated to happen itself could be the conspiracy.
	be fine.
	Epstein did it himself because He was given the opportunity to do it.
	Go to Butler.
	Let's just assume the kid was a loner nutbag who got radical or whatever, but that he had that opportunity because of the layered incompetence of Butler.
	You know, the outdoor venue, the carving out of the shooting platform.
	What is it called when you go hunting and you're on a perch?
	The carving out of the shooting perch from the perimeter.
	The inability to communicate between police and Secret Service.
	So even if it were a let-it-happen-on-purpose lone gunman, how the hell did the layered incompetence that allowed that to occur in the first place ever occur?
	And I know Bongino always said on his show, layered incompetence is intent.
	And when it comes to Epstein, allowing all of that to happen so Epstein can put the extra linens together, which in and of themselves wouldn't be strong enough to hang from, but you rope them together and whatever.
	How did it happen?
	What is your...
	What's your educated opinion on what the hell is going on?
	Well, let's go back to what you're talking about as far as layered incompetence.
	The first thing that you have to always default to when you do this, and you have to go to incompetence before you go to conspiracy theory.
	You have to, because if we're talking about the largest government in the world, we're talking about the most incompetent government in the world.
	In the world, government by its very nature is incompetent because of the way it's structured.
	And so it is, if it's the largest government, it's the most incompetent government.
	And then you have multiple layers of these intelligence agencies and policing organizations related to Butler just on that day alone.
	But see, all of their communications were siloed that day.
	In other words, each one had communication with themselves.
	And that was all supposed to be ended.
	Remember, that was supposed to all be taken care of after 9-11.
	Apparently, 24 years later, it still wasn't taken care of.
	But there's silos, and then there's shouting, a cell number.
	Silos is one thing that were led to believe that there were, I think it was like a full five minutes where no one could reach Trump's team, just keep him safe.
	It's the inability to communicate as animals in the jungle would have communicated.
	No, I got assigned to the Butler case, I mean, within 30 minutes after the shooting, my editor-in-chief was on the phone, and he said, all right, you and Joe, my co-writer on this story that we've talked about today, Joe Hanneman, he said, you and Joe are on this, go, you know, and so we wrote a series of articles on this particular story.
	And that was one of the things that we discovered, and we absolutely were able to verify through our own sourcing out there, is that, in fact, that they were communicating for several minutes and they couldn't reach one another.
	We're talking about, you know, we're talking about not just agency to agency, but within their own within their their own agencies, they couldn't talk to one another.
	And and then you have so you have the delay of the.
	But because it was siloed, they couldn't get the authorization to shoot because there was supposed to be a counter sniper team on that roof.
	They didn't want to kill one of their own.
	We know that they were calling this in a full two and a half minutes in advance going, we got somebody on this roof over here.
	He's got a rifle.
	Is it one of ours?
	Is he a friendly?
	So they were trying to what they called deconflict to make sure they didn't take out one of their own.
	And during that time, the kids started shooting.
	That's a fair explanation if we're dealing with a bunch of high school schnooks putting on an event for the first time.
	Okay, interesting.
	Did Glenn Beck get an answer?
	I guess another question is, they did an interview with Maria Barteromo.
	Why can't they do an interview with Glenn Beck?
	They probably should.
	He's certainly a friendly.
	He would be a friendly voice.
	He's going to ask harder questions probably than they did.
	You know, one, as I said before, We all do that.
	But one of the things that would have been important for her to say, as I said earlier, is that the typical response from the FBI is that we can't comment on an ongoing investigation.
	You've told us today that, Dan and Cash, you've told us that this is a closed case.
	So, why not just show the American people that?
	You can't hide behind the official pat answer of the FBI.
	So, show us.
	And this is where this is where I'm going to give a little bit of grace to both Cash and Dan as well, is, as you identified earlier, It's so wide.
	It's so deep that they have an incredible job ahead of them.
	Now, are we impatient?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't even know if Cash has been on the job 60 days now since his confirmation.
	But we...
	That's the assistant director in charge.
	And appointing him to that inflamed the entire J6 community, which we started off talking about today to begin with.
	And we're still not happy about that.
	We still don't have answers over that.
	They still haven't answered, why him?
	Why that guy?
	The argument in support of him is that he did see the injustice along the way, and he did change tact along the way.
	So it's not like he was stubborn to the end and now had a volt to pass.
	Barnes and I talked about him a couple times on the Sunday night show.
	He saw the error as it was in effect, and he changed course in real time.
	So he wasn't an anti-Jan Sixer right to the end.
	That's the steel man.
	Do we have a statement from Jensen on that?
	I do not know offhand that there's a statement.
	I think it's not speculating, but concluding from his positions along the way.
	But you asked me for the receipts, and I'll have to go now, and I have to go back and tap into my bookmarks and see about that.
	That was the steel man defense of him.
	The two whistleblowers, the two FBI whistleblowers, Friend and...
	I just had...
	Garrett Boyle or Steve Friend, Kyle Seraphson are the most known of the whistleblowers, but there are many others other than just them.
	I know that Kyle has his issues with Bongino and have been exacerbated by this.
	Have they been invited back or tapped into to chime in on the weaponization of the FBI?
	No, as a matter of fact, even Kyle, who's the most acerbic of all of them, I mean, Kyle has been given the gift of gab.
	I mean, he inherited that from his father.
	His father was a 40-year radio news guy.
	In fact, his father was the last guy to interview David Koresh alive while he was in the compound at Waco.
	His father actually, yeah, there's actually a recording of that.
	And so Kyle comes by his media persona.
	You know, honestly.
	And then Steve Friend could not be a bigger Boy Scout on this planet.
	I mean, he is the most straight-shooting guy I've ever met with, talked with, spoke to in my life.
	Garrett O 'Boyle is the single most absolute innocent of all the whistleblowers to the point where even mainstream media journalists confess to me in private that Garrett should have his job back.
	He's been, you know, he's been without work, without pay for over a thousand days.
	He should be given back pay and, you know, restitution and reparations for the way that they treated him.
	He's 100% guilty of, I mean, he's 100% innocent of what they accused him of and what they suspended him of doing.
	And in their conversations, I will tell you this, because they've been open about it.
	I wouldn't talk about it unless, you know, Kyle's been very open about it and he's provided the receipts on his X page, is that they had conversations with Dan.
	And Cash, beforehand, specifically Cash, told them that they were going to be restored and that, in fact, after his confirmation was clear, he sent them over a private message, which they've screenshotted and put it out there.
	Couldn't have done it without you guys.
	Thank you.
	This is Cash putting out this, Patel, a DM to the whistleblowers.
	Thank you.
	Couldn't have done it without you.
	And I guess they're...
	That's correct.
	That's correct.
	And when it comes to restoration of Garrett O 'Boyle and Steve Friend, it's pretty much a no-brainer.
	I could almost see why, you know, and Kyle would be the first one to admit that he could even understand why they might not want him back in because he's been nothing but a hammer.
	All of them have been hammering.
	All of them have been hammering the Bureau as it is or as it was.
	But they've been really disappointed in the aftermath because they were team cash, man.
	They were cheering for Cash.
	They were promoting for Cash.
	They were absolutely endorsing his nomination, and then they cheered his confirmation, and then all of a sudden Cash went away.
	That's just the truth.
	That's just the truth.
	Anybody can read into that whatever they want to, but it is what it is.
	As of today, and then whether or not they need more time to get things in order.
	My biggest question that Maria didn't ask is, what are they doing to purge the radical elements of the FBI?
	The broader question, I don't know that Dan believes the FBI can be reformed.
	He's part of the institution now, and to the extent he does believe that, certainly can't say it.
	He's now an employee of the state.
	Cash seems to believe that it can be reformed.
	I don't believe that it can.
	The institution's rotten to its core.
	The only question is, you know, cash by disbanding the J. Edgar Hoover office and putting all those, you know, however many 15,000 that work in the D.C. area out into the field.
	Maybe that's how he expects to do the passive purge, sort of the way Harmeet has purged her division of radical elements.
	But if he's got faith in the institution...
	They're in for three years of failure.
	They're in for three years of sabotage.
	And I think that that's quite possibly the case.
	Or the way it's going to play out.
	I mean, think about this, too.
	And again, I'm trying to every day to come up with reasons to give Cash and Dan the amount of grace that they deserve as we wait for the plan to unfold.
	And one aspect of this is they are seeing the pushback of the federal courts, these district court judges in D.C., denying some of the agencies the right to even fire people.
	I mean, it's like, okay, I'm the boss.
	I've been given this position.
	Congress has, the Senate has approved me to this position.
	Why do I not have the right to let these people go?
	Why do I not have the right to cut out the chaff, to get rid of the, you know, the corruption inside my own agency?
	And they're seeing this being denied, so they may be just waiting for some of these other cases to play out before they start the purge so they don't have to go through.
	The legal machinations of counterpunching, counterpunching, counterpunching with the judiciary.
	Maybe.
	We shall see, because one way or another, time will march forward and we'll see what happens with Epstein.
	We'll see what's revealed in Epstein.
	There's murmurings on the street that there might actually be additional information, additional video footage that might shed some light on it.
	My only problem is I put out a poll.
	Even if video evidence does come out because they found a camera that worked or they salvaged the deleted video, nobody's going to believe the video's real anyhow.
	We were told the video footage was deleted accidentally or that the cameras weren't working and now we found it.
	It's a post-truth era where you don't know who to believe, you don't know what to trust, you don't know what to believe and even if you see it with your own eyes you still might not believe it and it might not be real even if you see it with your own eyes.
	Steve, what are you working on?
	First of all, tell everybody where they can find you.
	I'm going to go do the Locals after party, but tell everybody where they can find you and what are you working on next?
	Yeah, obviously my handle for X is right there, Steve Baker USA.
	You can find me there.
	Obviously, after the Blaze publishes, it goes to X first, and I'm on Locals also.
	You can find me there.
	What's your local site?
	I've still got at TPC, that's my old handle, at TPC, the number four USA.
	Because my old blog before I went to the Blaze was the Pragmatic Constitutionalist.
	So that was what the TPC means.
	So it's TPC for USA on locals.
	And then, what's that?
	dot locals.com.
	I'm just going to get the...
	Okay, perfect.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so then obviously on The Blaze, so theblaze.com, I would encourage everybody just, if you're wanting to read the complexity of this story and then the links to our previous stories about Corey Mills, you're going to get all of that.
	Inside, embedded in this particular story, just go to theblaze.com.
	You can use the search engine, type in the words rogue FBI Corey Mills, and it'll pull the article up.
	Or just go to my name, and you'll find it there.
	And then the other things that we're working on, this was a big diversion for me.
	I had no intention of even working on the Corey Mills story.
	I wasn't even interested in the Corey Mills story.
	But once the whole thing started popping up with the intelligence community and all of that, it's like I got a call from the editor and said, hey, you've got to come join us on this one.
	Kind of my area.
	But I'm excited to get back to what I was working on prior.
	We've got two series going right now.
	One is on the Nancy Pelosi fixer, Erin Black, and that's her longtime – As I said, his name is Aaron Black.
	I've been pretty obsessed with this story for over four years.
	We have reason to believe that a certain type of directed energy weapon was possibly used on the crowd that day to incite the mob.
	I've been working on that story for four years.
	Well, when it's ready to break, Steve, I'll happily amplify and pick your brain on that because there is nothing that's beyond the realm of possible options here.
	I'll tease you with this.
	I'll tease you and your audience with this.
	Viva.
	In the history of the world, the history of protests, can you name one event?
	We're three people within 50 yards of each other, died of a heart attack.
	I would have to think about this.
	We're talking about, well, who are the ones we're talking about here?
	We're talking about Roseanne Boyland.
	Is that one of the three that you'd put in the vicinity?
	That's correct.
	You would not put Brian Sicknick in there, I don't think.
	Or would you include?
	Broke the next day, but he was in within that 50-yard perimeter.
	Okay, and then who were the other two?
	The other two were, they said medical emergencies.
	I don't remember their names.
	Yeah, Greason, and I think the other name is Phillips, both gentlemen.
	One of them actually dropped dead on the spot before the first less than lethals were even fired because a lot of people tried, you know.
	Pepper spray.
	Pepper spray can cause traumatic, you know.
	Respiratory failure.
	So I would have blamed it on that.
	But if it occurred before that, I appreciate the argument.
	Before the first Leslie Lethal was ever fired.
	The second one, many of the conspiracy theorists said that he was hit in the chest by one of those gas canisters or mortars and that that caused his heart attack.
	And we have looked at every single piece of available video on that.
	He was never subjected to that whatsoever.
	And, and so we, And he said, yeah, he said, yes, that particular weapon exists.
	And I'm going to quote him now.
	He said, with that weapon, we can stop your heart.
	We can make you shit your pants.
	But I wouldn't need it on January 6th.
	I would just need four or five of my best guys to make January 6th happen.
	There's the full quote.
	I will eagerly await that.
	It's fascinating, Steve.
	I'm going to keep going live.
	I'm going to put the links in the pinned comment.
	Steve, you and I shall do a follow-up sooner than later, but thank you tremendously for coming on.
	It's been amazing.
	Viva, thank you as always.
	Appreciate it.
	I'll see you on the interwebs.
	Peace out, Steve.
	People, that was amazing.
	Make you have a heart attack and shit your pants.
	Sounds like a weekend in Tijuana.
	Let me bring up the Lone Rumble rant from King of Biltong over on Rumble.
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	Antons is a man from South Africa.
	He's a member of our community.
	It's called South African built-on.
	It's like beef jerky.
	It's delicious.
	He makes it out of Roanoke, Texas.
	And it's an amazing, amazing product.
	That was not an ad, so I don't need to put on this contains a paid promotion when I put this on YouTube, if I do.
	But he's amazing.
	Now, in our locals community, I've noticed there are a few tip questions from Buffalo Betsy says, God bless those attorneys who did the work pro bono.
	And God bless you too, sir.
	Thank you, Buffalo Betsy.
	There are two things I love on this earth.
	Being called brother by someone who's not actually my brother and being said, God bless you.
	Not when I sneeze, you know, like just in general.
	Where the heck is Nancy Pelosi's laptop, says Mandelichi.
	Did they ever find the laptop?
	Steve's amazing.
	Denise Antu says, here's a great name, a great meme of Macon warning.
	Language, the FBI, the FBI.
	Hold on.
	Oh, this is funny.
	Okay, hold on.
	I think I know what this is.
	Let's go bring this up.
	This is a meme.
	It's right here.
	We're not sensitive to the F-bomb people.
	I sure as fuck am not.
	Boom.
	Okay, so just as a matter of...
	That song is from South Park Bigger Longer Uncut.
	I first saw that, I believe I was in Paris in 1999 when I was living there, studying philosophy at La Sorbonne.
	Let me see when that movie came out.
	Is that memory accurate?
	Let's go to Grok.
	Grok, when did South Park Uncut come?
	I'm going to go, 1999.
	That's how, if I piece it together.
	When did South Park Uncut come out?
	June 30th, 1999.
	I'm going to be an old man sitting at an old man, old, whatever the place for old farts, if I'm lucky.
	And I'm going to say, I remember when I was, 1999.
	I cried through that scene when they were playing that song, Shut Your Effing Face, Uncle Lefer.
	Then I saw the movie.
	It was so funny.
	I said, I have to take my parents to see that movie.
	They did not find the movie quite as funny.
	Although my parents then...
	I would still like Bigger, Longer, Uncut South Park.
	I'm waiting for my youngest to be old enough that I can watch that and Team America.
	In as much as I've got a very crass sense of humor and very liberal cinematic tolerances with my children, I cannot watch Team America.
	All right, peeps.
	That was amazing.
	Let me just go to the chat and see what's going on here in Rumble.
	So much for family-friendly, says M. Sidloy.
	That's family-friendly.
	I saw South Park Bigger Long Road Cut with my parents, so therefore it's totally family-friendly.
	I saw it in cinema, says Platonic Pluralist.
	We love TNP.
	Terrence and Terrence, what's his name?
	Not Canada, LOL.
	Encryptus, what's the good word, sir?
	Well, I just want you to talk about your book real quick, and then we can do the raid before moving over.
	Who are we going to raid?
	Neuro recommended a channel.
	I've been checking it out for a few minutes.
	His name is Jeff Mack.
	It has a nice American flag in the background, talking about some issues on the Memorial Day issue.
	Do it.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know how to get on the number one bestseller on Amazon.
	Louis the Lobster returns to the sea.
	David Pryheit.
	Written by.
	My wife put it together.
	She's amazing.
	And illustrated by Abigail Martin, who is the daughter of a member of our Locals community.
	Amazon.
	It's on Amazon if you want to go get it.
	We got merch, which I keep saying I'm going to make new merch.
	I haven't done it.
	I'm an idiot.
	I'm an idiot.
	Most importantly, before you leave and before you go raid, make sure that you're subscribed on Rumble.
	Make sure that you have notifications turned on.
	There are 14,000 people watching right now.
	I do wonder what percentage are not currently subscribed.
	But go subscribe.
	Hit the little button, and that's it.
	I post the clips to Commutube afterwards and Rumble.
	I put out a Memorial Day special.
	It's a documentary.
	That's a very lofty word.
	I went to a farm not far from where we live called Coastal Pastures Farms.
	Veteran-owned.
	And I interviewed the owner on Friday.
	Last Friday, his name is Jake.
	I mean, wait for some of the stories.
	And I posted that on Viva Random, which is my sub-channel on Rumble.
	And Viva Family, which is the other channel on Commitube.
	And I posted the full interview on Twitter.
	Excuse me.
	Amazing.
	Amazing.
	Guy served as a machine gunner in Afghanistan.
	And to the extent that it is Memorial Day today, I thank all of the veterans, their families, because it's not just the veterans who sacrifice life and limb.
	Families sacrifice more than anybody can ever know.
	And so notwithstanding the fact that sometimes the...
	Military-industrial complex that is the government sends young men and women to die for their own, the industry, the interests of the military-industrial complex.
	The men and women that go sacrifice more than any of us can ever truly appreciate.
	As I interviewed Jake and I asked him, you know, machine gunner in Afghanistan that did two tours of duty, 19 years old when he first went.
	I'm like, in retrospect, how do you feel?
	Do you feel like you were used and abused for means that were, or for other purposes that were not less than noble, but specific interests?
	And his answer was, go watch the interview.
	He had a tattoo that said, the United States doesn't have allies, it has interests.
	Something along those lines.
	I asked him about his tattoos.
	So everybody, have a meaningful Memorial Day.
	And that is it.
	I shall see you tomorrow.
	And this week, I'm also going to be going to Georgia for the Soldier's Journey Home, building a forever home for a disabled veteran.
	And I'm going to see a member of our locals community, Ginger Ninja.
	Thank you for your service, sir.
	Vinny Oshana, thank you for your service.
	Bill Brown, I thanked you via text earlier today.
	I'm going to be down there documenting, and it's going to be fantastic, so stay tuned for that.
	Most importantly, Godspeed, God bless everybody.
	We're going to have our locals after party right now.
	If you want to come, oh yeah, come on over today because it is a view stream yard so you don't need to be a supporter.
	You can come over to Locals and just be a member and partake in the after party and support the work that we do in as much as you want to.
	You can support at Locals and you can support various other ways.
	So that is it.
	My son is in the Navy and deployed right now.
	I hope he's okay.
	Says Ice, Storm, Fire.
	Touch wood and that is it.
	Locals, I'm coming and everybody else, we're going to go raid.
	Jeff Mack.
	Let's see.
	Let's see how it's going there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let's see.
	listen to him for two seconds here Oh, Ray.
	Okay, good.
	We're rolling.
	Well, hold on.
	Let's just go.
	Let's go show this.
	Our donation over on Rumble.
	I appreciate you, Cheeky Chops.
	Thank you so much for the help.
	This is Jeff Mack, the son.
	Appreciate you.
	All right.
	We're ending it.
	People.
	Dispo.
	I love Jesus.
	I will see you all tomorrow.
	Stopping screen and ending on Twitter.
	Remove.
	And ending on Rumble.
	Thank you.
	Booyah.
	Hold on one second.
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