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Dec. 4, 2024 - Viva & Barnes

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Embalmer Richard Hirschman About Post-Covid Anomalies in Corpses - Viva Frei Interview

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	This woman just did the unthinkable to a family at an airport.
	You have no respect.
	On a crowded United Airlines shuttle bus in Los Angeles, you have no respect.
	You have no respect.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I'm going to pretend I did it on purpose, people.
	Ooh, I look tan.
	Good afternoon, good evening, whatever the heck time it is.
	I was a little running late, so I didn't have our standard intro video, which is the five times August awesome kick-ass song.
	What I wanted to bring up was this lady, so I could share a bit of my own personal insights in all of this.
	If you haven't seen this story, how did I discover this story?
	Some idiot.
	Attempting to, you know, sick an internet lynch mob on this clearly mentally unwell intoxicated individual.
	Let's play this out here.
	Please, please, by all means.
	No, you can remove her, though, from being rude and racist right now.
	Can you do that or no?
	It doesn't care about racists.
	You're racist towards me.
	I'm American.
	So are we.
	You're not American.
	No, not American.
	Not originally, no.
	I was born in America.
	No, you were.
	Yes, I was.
	Passport? Yeah, you want to see my passport?
	I want to make you happy.
	This is the world we live in.
	They clipped out the part where he says, go on, darling, have another drink, darling, or have more to drink.
	Sweetheart, he says, sweetheart.
	Just to highlight, there are people out there who are idiots.
	There are people out there who are mentally unwell.
	There are people out there who are clearly inebriated.
	And we live in a world where the first reaction is to instigate, exacerbate, record, post to the internet.
	You know, I won't say where I was.
	I was somewhere.
	Where there was clearly a tweaked-out drug addict on the street who did not look well, who was shouting the N-word at a group of breakdancers on Venice Beach.
	I was making a vlog, and I just captured it, incidentally, in everybody's recording.
	Like, the idea that you would say that this person is clearly mentally unwell.
	In that video, the woman is clearly an idiot, and she is clearly intoxicated.
	The guy even says it.
	And the reaction, the mentality is...
	Let me go needle this crazy, unhinged, alcoholic, potentially, you know, maybe there's some meds, medication going on here.
	Let's record it, and let's put it on the internet.
	And then the people on the internet are like, let's dox her, find out where she lives and ruin her life.
	It's insanity.
	If there's one bad thing that social media has produced, it's that type of mentality.
	She's an idiot, and the guy who's...
	Egging her on and recording it and posting it to the internet afterward is also an idiot.
	There's an easy way to avoid these issues, these problems, and not exacerbate them and not then take it to social media just to try to ruin people's lives who clearly have other stuff going on that would explain a few things.
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	Now, hold on one second.
	I'll tell my kids to get the heck out of here.
	Dude, get out.
	I'm live.
	Out of your mind?
	Do the thing later.
	Get out of here.
	All right, Richard, I'm going to bring you in.
	Now, by the way, if you don't know who Richard Hirschman is, I don't know where you've been for the last three years.
	I'm going to bring Richard, and he can do his own introduction.
	This is going to be amazing.
	I'm going to spoil it a little bit.
	I don't remember when I first saw Richard Hirschman, an embalmer.
	I've got so many questions, and if nobody's made the Six Feet Under reference, I'm going to make a few of them today.
	All right, Richard, I'm bringing you in.
	Three, two, one.
	Sir, how goes the battle?
	Well, it's going all right.
	You crack me up.
	That's pretty funny.
	My kid just waltzes in here.
	He knows I'm like, I got the on-air little sticker on the door.
	I'm joking.
	I don't have that.
	Richard, I will not spend too much time on the pre-COVID personal stuff.
	I've just got so many questions to ask an embalmer.
	But for those who don't know who you are, if they're meeting you for the first time, 30,000 foot overview.
	Wow. Well, I'm a funeral director and embalmer, but I'm what's considered a trade embalmer where I just do trade embalming, working for a number of funeral homes as an ad-need basis.
	But I started my career back in 2001, and I remember being in the funeral home when 9-11 happened.
	I don't remember exactly the date that I started.
	I'm not one of those people that have that memory of exact.
	But I remember being in the funeral home as an apprentice way back then.
	Then went to mortuary school, worked out my apprenticeship, which here is at least a two-year apprenticeship before you can even get your license.
	So I finished mortuary school.
	Actually, it was in 2004.
	I became dual licensed as a funeral director and embalmer.
	In 2015 is when I became a full-time independent trade embalmer, kind of like a contract embalmer, just like a plumber that works on his own.
	You call me, I come and do what I got, come to do the job, and then I go home.
	So that's an overview of my career as far as in the mortuary field.
	And embalming has basically been the thing that I enjoy doing the most.
	It's kind of my passion, where a lot of funeral directors and embalmers, the embalming side is kind of known as the dirty work in my profession.
	And early on in people's career, they start off in the embalming room, do stuff, and then they move kind of up in the company out into the public where they're Acting mostly as a funeral dredger.
	Meeting with families and dealing with the public.
	I'm the guy that's in the back that hardly nobody knows I exist.
	It's actually, just as an industry, it's kind of wild.
	If I may ask, did you do anything before getting into embalming?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, I'm 57 years old.
	I served 10 years in the military.
	I got out in 1997.
	Then I worked for a sign company for a number of years, and my wife had got involved with what's called funeral pre-arrangements, where you go to the funeral home and you do pre-arrangements and you can pre-fund your funeral and last expenses and services.
	And I thought that was really fascinating.
	And so that's kind of what pushed me into it.
	I started off...
	Quitting my job then and getting involved in the sales of funeral home prearrangements.
	And it was during that process that I ended up working with a family that had lost a young girl to a horrible car accident.
	And it was really tough.
	And in the prearrangement stuff, I would go meet with the families afterwards and see how things went.
	And they were troubled by some of the things and the way things happened to them during the service.
	And I felt like, well, if I wanted to, I can't undo the past, but maybe if I get in a position where I can help prevent another family from going through that hardship.
	That's kind of what pushed me into becoming a funeral director and embalmer.
	Give me one second.
	For those, my crowd knows I have a very annoying dog now who needs to leave the room.
	Well, don't feel bad.
	I have a bunch of dogs myself.
	I know you've got more dogs than you have.
	This dog, she wants to get in, wants to get out.
	Ten years in the military, what branch, what were you doing?
	I was in the Army.
	I was basically in air defense.
	I was stationed at Fort Bliss, Texas.
	I went to airborne school early on.
	I was stationed at Fort Bliss, Texas twice.
	I was stationed in Germany.
	I was stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
	And I ended my military time due to an ankle injury in 1997.
	So that's kind of my history in the military.
	It's amazing.
	It's interesting and fascinating in that fast forward to how you've been demonized in today's day and age where a man of impeccable credentials becomes public enemy number one.
	You start saying certain things that people don't like.
	I got a bunch of morbid questions because embalming, so you answered one of them.
	It's a trade.
	You're not a doctor.
	You're not a master's degree in embalming.
	You go and you learn how to drain the body of fluids.
	What is embalming?
	I know what it is roughly, but...
	Right. Well, I think you're asking a great question.
	A lot of people have misconceptions of what we do.
	Some people say, I'm doing autopsies and I'm cutting up bodies.
	That's not the thing.
	To be a, most states, many states, you have to do an apprenticeship, which is a two years working in the funeral business before you can apply to get your funeral director's license, which is the way it was here in Alabama.
	And I did that first in the beginning.
	I became a licensed funeral director by the state of Alabama literally just before I started mortuary school.
	But here in the state of Alabama, to become a licensed embalmer, you have to go to an accredited mortuary school where they basically teach you the sciences of everything.
	And then once you're done with mortuary school, you got to take your national board exams, which basically makes you a A national board certified funeral director and embalmer, which, of course, I had to retake the funeral director's test to get that title or get to that certificate.
	And all that does is it allows me, if I wanted, let's say I wanted to move now to Minnesota, I would simply have to just, I wouldn't have to start their whole apprenticeship program all over again.
	I would just give them my information and they would look and find my credentials from my mortuary school and that I pass the national board exams.
	And just to clarify, the distinction between, you could be a funeral director and not an embalmer.
	Funeral director is sort of like, not bereavement, but offering the services to burial and stuff like that.
	And an embalmer is something totally different, or it's not the case that all funeral directors need to be embalmers?
	Yes, very much the case.
	Most embalmers are funeral directors as well.
	But not all funeral directors are embalmers.
	And there are a few embalmers that are not funeral directors.
	They're two totally separate certificates.
	In order to get the embalmer certificate, most states require that you go to a mortuary school.
	And by doing that, you have to go through the whole funeral director side too.
	So you might as well go ahead and get your dual certification through the National Board of Funeral Service.
	But they're not the same.
	Funeral directors are the people that you see when you walk in the door.
	They're the ones that you see out at the grave or at the church that are taking care of the family's needs.
	They're the ones that you're sitting down at the local funeral home when your loved one dies and you're making funeral arrangements and funeral plans.
	Embalmers are the ones...
	Now, funeral directors can dress and casket and cosmetize the bodies.
	Embalmers are the ones that are actually...
	Doing the embalming processes, which is simply raising two vessels, typically a large artery and a large vein.
	There are six major points that we do that embalming from.
	Usually it's either in the carotids, the axillaries, which is in the armpit or brachials, which is a little bit lower, or the iliac and femoral, which is in your legs.
	Now, standard embalming or typical embalming, the way it always was in the past, although not so much anymore.
	Was we would simply raise one artery, one vein.
	We use a thing called a cannula that pumps fluid, embalming fluid, in a machine that goes through the arterial system.
	And then it forces, it builds up pressure and allows the blood then to drain out of the adjoining vein that's in that area.
	In the past, we've had multiple-point injections, meaning there's issues somewhere with some kind of clotting or a blockage or something's going on.
	But in the past, a one-point injection was typically the norm.
	In today's world, with all of these strange clots that we're seeing, That process has just slowed down, and it's made it a little bit more difficult, so we're having more multiple-point injections to preserve the body for viewing and preservation.
	Okay, and we're going to get to that as well, because I know that that's one of the important differences that you've noticed over the last three years compared to your last 20. When you say raise a vein, raise an artery, what does that mean?
	Does it mean physically lift it up so that you can then open it and then flush it out?
	Nothing is too gross in terms of explanation or demonstrative.
	Boy, I wish I would have sent you these pictures.
	I don't know if my phone would be able to show it to you well.
	You can send them to me via DM on Twitter and I can bring them up.
	Can I do that while I'm on here?
	When we raise the vessel...
	We make an incision.
	Like if we're going to do in a carotid, it's usually somewhere around here in the neck.
	We'll make an incision and we'll literally raise the...
	We'll look down in there and we'll find the vein.
	We'll raise up the vein and we'll put some ligature around it, separate it.
	Then we'll get the artery, put some ligature around it.
	What does that mean, ligature around it?
	A suture, just string.
	Basically, it's string.
	And then once we have those vessels up, we're able to make an incision into the artery.
	We're able to make an incision into the vein, and we'll put in an instrument.
	Okay, so here's one picture I'm going to send you.
	This is an artery raised just as an image.
	I've got some bizarre internet fetishes in terms of like YouTube videos, in terms of like mango worms and pimple popping.
	If this becomes the next one, because we're going to get into the video that you sent me.
	Let me make sure that I don't actually accidentally have my...
	Yeah, hopefully I'll have these.
	I made a few pictures that will help you understand.
	Hopefully, my dogs aren't making such a...
	Don't worry about that.
	Your dogs are far less annoying than my dogs.
	Yeah, mine get pretty crazy.
	Here, so I'm going to bring this up here.
	So, what we're looking at right there, that is...
	That is an artery that is raised up, and you see the string around it.
	Yeah. So, you wrap the string around, you pull it up, you put something under it, then you're going to...
	I should have given a trigger warning for anybody who is sensitive to this stuff.
	This is going to be quasi-medical.
	And that's what you're going to then open up to flush out whatever's left inside the arteries, inside the body?
	That's the artery where we're going to pump the fluid into that.
	That's the artery itself.
	You notice it's yellow.
	The texture is pretty much like a rubber band.
	I remember when...
	I forget which hockey player.
	I think not Clint Malarchuk.
	It was more recent when the guy got the skate in his neck and they pinched it.
	What artery was that?
	That's not the carotid?
	That is a carotid artery, if I recall.
	You bring it up.
	You open it so that you can pump...
	What is embalming fluid?
	It's not formaldehyde, right?
	It is.
	Typically, it's a formaldehyde.
	Did you get it?
	Hopefully I got you the right pictures here.
	Yeah, I see a few.
	Oh lordy.
	There's another one I just sent you to.
	It says white fibrous clots seen in the vein.
	Should I bring that one up?
	Yes, go ahead and bring that up.
	I like to explain this particular image.
	Okay, here we go.
	Okay, that's the one.
	But that's right.
	You can do that.
	This one is raised up.
	This is...
	Can you go back to another one?
	There should be another image that you have.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It's more blue.
	Okay. The only thing I'm making sure of is not to show our DMs in here.
	Okay, I see this one right here.
	Okay. This one looks like an eye, sort of.
	An eyebrow.
	Right, yeah.
	I don't see it yet.
	Here we go.
	Yeah. Alright, so when we raise up the vein, you see that kind of purplish-blue color?
	Not where the hair is pointing, but that's what a vein typically looks like.
	It's translucent.
	You can literally see the blood inside of it.
	That's a vein and not an artery.
	Right. The other image that looked like a rubber band, that's an artery.
	You can't see inside of an artery because it's got a much thicker wall.
	So you can't see inside of it.
	However, where that arrow is pointing is the...
	That is...
	That's one of these clots.
	I see it.
	That's how some people like...
	And I don't know if I've ever made these images really that public or not.
	But what you're seeing there is...
	Is the clot.
	I see it.
	I see something's inside that vein.
	Let me ask you this, actually, before we even get there.
	Which ones are the ones that pump?
	The arteries pump out of the heart and the veins bring back to the heart?
	Yes. The two sides.
	Think about it like you're plumbing in your house.
	You have your water coming into the house, correct?
	Yep. That's under pressure.
	Okay, there's pressure there.
	You turn your water spigot on and water comes out.
	It comes out fairly fast.
	How often do you get a blockage in your sink?
	You don't hardly ever get blockages there, right?
	Because the pressure doesn't allow things to build up there.
	But your drain on your sink at the bottom...
	It's like your venous system.
	It's much slower.
	There's not much pressure.
	And when you think about your sewage and your water system in your house, it's the drainage side where you get back up.
	That's where you're washing the dishes and a bunch of junk gets down there in the bottom of your sink and it clogs up the hole.
	And if you don't clear it out, the sink fills up with water or stuff gets caught up in the pee trap.
	So think about your veins as a much slower.
	That's typically where clots will form, is on that particular side.
	Okay, this is fascinating, but not so good from a compulsive neurotic who thinks he's dying every moment of the day.
	Okay, so then the arteries pump throughout, the veins draw back, and that's how the cycle of blood goes.
	That's why the veins, when it's oxygen depleted, turn darker color.
	When people get their carotid slit or stabbed in the neck and what shoots out is like bright red is why it's...
	Yeah, it has pressure.
	When you cut the artery, the blood goes just like your heart, right?
	Yeah. But when you cut a vein, it just flows.
	When you just get a typical cut, you can tell if it's an arterial cut because the blood starts shooting across the room.
	I mean, it just starts...
	Shooting out because there's pressure built up behind it.
	That's why clots in the arterial side are far, far less common.
	I'm not saying it's impossible.
	Just like in your water lines, it is possible over time you may get some calcified buildups in your old pipes that start to kind of shrink around and make it more difficult for that water to get through.
	But on your drain side, that's where typically clots Those vessels are thinner.
	They stretch more.
	They build up.
	That's why that picture, you saw the blue, that purpley-looking blue, and you can see that little eye thing.
	Now, if you look at the other image where that's it, that's what the vein looks like.
	If you discount where the arrow is pointing, where you see that little white, The part on the right, that would be normal.
	And what you're seeing there is ligature or suture or string, whatever you want to call it, that's around that vessel.
	All right, so look at the next picture where you...
	I'm sorry, you had a question.
	Yeah, hold on.
	The question was this.
	Just in terms of, like, I understand the pressure versus the low pressure in terms of the drain versus the main pipe, but we're in a closed system.
	So if it's draining slower than it's pumping...
	Where does that build pressure up in terms of the arterial system?
	Your heart is still pumping the same amount of blood out through the arteries, but if it's getting clogged up or slowed back up in terms of veins, do you get ruptured veins or do you get ruptured aneurysms?
	I'm not a medical doctor or pathologist, but just from what I know about the circulatory system and experience, Think about it like a balloon, right?
	You're blowing air into a balloon.
	There gets to be a point where the balloon will pop.
	So if you've got blockages on the venous side, it's going to back up and not allow the fluid, even on the arterial side, it's going to start to slow down.
	And the heart is going to want to probably, I'm just assuming here, just thinking from my...
	You know, understanding.
	The heart's going to maybe want to try to pump even harder to try to overcome that lack of flow.
	And, you know, the body needs oxygen and it needs the blood to carry that oxygen to the different parts of the body.
	But if you've got vessels that are being backed up, the heart is wanting to pump that blood.
	If the pressure builds up too high, you get what you just said.
	You'll get an aneurysm, which is nothing more than a...
	A blowout of your vessel wall.
	And you end up then get bleeding.
	And, you know, a lot of times people are familiar with aneurysms.
	If it's in the vein, it becomes a stroke, a brain bleed.
	If it's in, you know, arterial aneurysm, people typically can bleed to death and die internally.
	Now, bring this one up because I'm going to ask this question in a bit as we look through this here.
	Okay, so this one, you'll tell me if this is the one you wanted to look at.
	Yes. So unlike the arterial one, which is the very first one you looked at, remember it was kind of yellow and it looked like a rubber band?
	So here I have, this is called an aneurysm needle.
	This is one of the instruments that I use to pull these vessels up.
	When I lift this vein up, All that purple that you saw in the previous picture, you still see some of it, but because the vein is thin, it's simply the liquid part of the blood just goes to the left and the right.
	But where you see the arrow pointing, I can see there's something inside there.
	I can see the clot.
	Now, normal clots, just for people to understand, a normal blood clot looks like red grape jelly.
	But you can see there's something inside this vein because the vein is somewhat translucent and it looks white.
	See, this is, you know, people say, well, how do you see this stuff inside?
	How do you see this?
	Well, I'm showing you.
	This is how I see it.
	I mean, I presume you'd also see it when you flush out the arteries.
	You would see whatever comes out there.
	But question number one, like...
	Having zero experience with any of this.
	How old are the bodies typically by the time you're embalming them?
	I mean, like their age or how long?
	No, like how long they've been deceased for.
	Because I do wonder, at what point does the blood coagulate within the veins themselves after death?
	Rigor mortis is different than coagulation of blood that's not getting oxidization.
	Right. Well...
	You know, there's some people that would like to say, oh, you're only seeing these because the body's been in storage for, you know, long periods of time and it's, you know, they're cold bodies.
	Well, you know, prior to 2021, I had 20 years of experience doing this and I've embalmed bodies that have been in a cooler for a week and not see these kind of clots.
	Now, I'm not saying that I didn't see more clots the longer a person has been dead.
	But typical blood clots are like grape jelly.
	They're not these white, fibrous-looking structures.
	So I'm not saying that bodies will not clot the longer they've been dead.
	But I've been finding in bodies that the body isn't even cold.
	I mean, the blood's still warm.
	Because we'd like to get to the embalming as soon as possible.
	We prefer not to let the body sit just because of typical clotting that may occur.
	But these clots are something totally different.
	And that's what we're going to get to because it's one thing for people to say, oh, no, no, this is typical.
	And unless people just want to call you a liar, your point is that you're seeing in your practice something radically different over the last three years than you saw in the past 20 before that.
	And so whether or not if it's typical and you hadn't seen it in two decades, that's one thing.
	And we're going to get to all of that.
	The other question I had was this.
	When you do an embalming, I presume you need to know cause of death, like if someone had an aneurysm.
	But if someone hypothetically died of an aneurysm and you start pumping embalming fluid through an artery that has a hole in it, I presume you'll notice that that's not circulating throughout the system?
	Yes, and we run across that, and we've run across that in years before too.
	But we don't necessarily know the cause of death.
	I don't necessarily have access to their medical records.
	Sometimes we get what's called a face sheet, which gives you a little bit of what this person was put in the hospital for, basic kind of stuff.
	But when a person has, let's say, an aortic or an abdominal aneurysm, which is a very dangerous situation for an individual, we can often tell by...
	When we're doing the embalming process, instead of a lot of the blood coming out of the vein, it's building up in their abdominal cavity.
	And so the fluid is simply leaking inside.
	And then you can see the distension from the abdomen when we're pumping fluid in.
	It's coming out into that hole.
	Now, if it's a really, really bad aneurysm, it will have a...
	You know, the fluid may have a little bit more difficult time and you may have to do a multiple point injection because not enough fluid might be getting into one of the arms.
	So we'll have to raise those vessels.
	I'm not saying that we've never had to do this before.
	We do.
	But yeah, these aneurysms are dangerous.
	We can kind of tell by the fluid building up in the abdomen if it's there, if it's leaking internally, basically.
	And we have ways of compensating and overcoming those.
	Okay. And now, the critical thing here, at least as far as I can tell, I brought up a comment that said it could be diet, there's more clotting, whatever.
	And not to dismiss that comment, so you were featured in Died Suddenly.
	My alma mater at McGill University did, I won't call it a hit piece, but did a fact check and said, no, no, these clots are normal because you're dealing with a body that's old.
	Or I say decaying in terms of It takes some time, blood clots.
	And for anybody who's ever made blood pudding, for example, I've never done it, but we had an incident with a dog and there was blood everywhere.
	And it congeals and it turns into a gelatinous stuff.
	And that's what I would think typically is what would be referred to as a blood clot.
	When you're looking at what you're pulling out that you've described as calamari, it's not a blood clot because it doesn't seem to be made out of blood.
	It seems to be, I would say, almost ligament-like tissue.
	Had you ever seen those, I'll bring up the other one, but had you seen those specific types of whitish material in your practice before this?
	No, and that's my concern.
	And I started seeing it early in 2021, Viva.
	It's hard for me to pinpoint exactly when I saw it, but...
	That's when I started to notice them.
	And then when I started noticing, I was finding these same things in the arteries.
	That was more concerning because we would hardly never see clots in arteries.
	And, you know, of course, at the time, I didn't know.
	I assumed that these had to have been anti-mortem clots because if they were just simple post-mortem clots, like what we would see in a body that's been laying around for a while, we would have been familiar with this.
	But this is totally different.
	You want to show that other image?
	What I'll do is right now bring up the video.
	Let me just bring it up in incognito.
	Richard, if you haven't determined, I'm quite neurotic about accidentally disclosing DMs.
	Not that I have anything bad, but respect people's privacy.
	This is funny.
	It won't let me show it in incognito.
	You know what?
	That's what I was trying to tell you.
	There's no question.
	They are preventing people from seeing this.
	It's weird.
	I don't understand how or why they are doing that.
	There's no question, because I've noticed certain features are not available in Incognito on what we might call restricted accounts.
	Okay, so this is it right here.
	Let me just make sure.
	Okay, graphic, by the way.
	It's not really graphic.
	It looks phallic right now, but it's...
	We're going to get into what you do and do not do.
	Let me explain what you're seeing right here, really.
	So, remember how when I raised up on that picture that you showed and the blood moved and you saw that white thing in there?
	Now, this is a juggler vein.
	Now, this juggler vein, you can see.
	You can literally see, and I had already made the incision.
	If you look right there in the center, you'll see a little slit.
	There is a large mass inside this thing.
	And I knew it was there.
	But when I first opened up this and got the vein, it was like the other image where you saw it look like a cat eye or something, or like an eye, where it was blue.
	It was blue, but remember I had the arrow pointing to that little bit of white?
	I could see something's there.
	This one too was blue, like a normal looking vein.
	But when I raised it up, I'm like, this thing is huge.
	There's something inside there and you can see it's raised.
	There is something in there.
	And so this video is me pulling this thing out.
	We're going to look at the community note afterwards because I'm doing that as you say this.
	Just be forewarned, everybody.
	It's going to be a little...
	That's in the neck.
	Yes. Okay, I see now.
	So the chin looks like this would be-ish of the chin?
	That is right in here, basically.
	It's right in this area.
	Okay, I'm going to play this and we're going to...
	So you've slit laterally.
	Yep, and I can see it.
	I'm pulling it out.
	There's some blood attached to it, but look how white that is.
	This is the jugular vein.
	And I'm trying to get that out without breaking it is what I'm trying to do.
	It broke.
	And then I'm going to try to demonstrate a little bit on the...
	You know, it's elastic.
	You know, it's like a rubber band.
	It has some stretchability there.
	and then I try to put it on my, I think I try to put it on my hand so you can get an idea of the size.
	Prepare to the size of your hand or your finger.
	So, Okay, so now I'm actually very curious.
	I want to do this in real time.
	The misrepresentation.
	This is called chicken fat or agonal thrombus.
	Okay, agonal thrombus.
	Now, we're going to fact check the fact checkers in real time.
	And by the way, if I'm grilling you, I know what I believe and I know that I, you're not the only person to say this and I know what I believe, but I want to challenge my own foregone beliefs as well.
	Agonal thrombus.
	Agonal.
	I'm going to images, and I don't see any...
	Okay, so here, this one looks like it might be agonal thrombus.
	Okay, I mean, if I'm looking at that, Richard, and you'll tell me if I'm right or wrong.
	First of all, agonal thrombus, it sounds like thrombosis.
	What is it?
	A thrombus is a clot.
	It's basically a clot.
	Okay, it's a clot.
	Of blood?
	Yes. Okay, so that's what an agonal thrombus is supposed to be.
	An agonal thrombus is a clot that is formed.
	Like if somebody's been in a, let's say they're bedridden in a nursing home during the dying process, the last days they can develop because a person is stagnant, not moving.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Somebody that's been bedridden, they can develop angonothrombus because of the lack of mobility and stuff like that.
	All right.
	But it is clotting that is blood-based.
	Yes. Blood and stuff.
	And a chicken fat clot is like a fatty-type tissue of a clot.
	And I'm familiar with chicken fat clots as well.
	But not to this extent.
	I mean, I've had that discussion.
	Of course, you don't think that I question my own self?
	Well, I'm just looking at the images of what they give for...
	Well, that's just chicken fat.
	Typical. And somebody looked that up.
	You know that picture that you're pointing?
	That's what a lot of them wanted to use.
	That came apparently from a veterinary book.
	Well, but no, I mean, if I'm just basing it on the image of that, that looks like it would also, you could squeeze it and basically mush it into liquid.
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	But the current jelly type clot is a typical clot that we would see.
	Here's my thing, Viva, is this.
	I've been doing this, you know, for over 20 years before I started seeing these strange clots.
	And other embalmers, like Tom Haviland, who is doing research, he's found, you know, right now, he's doing a current survey, there's somewhere around 80% of the embalmers are now acknowledging these strange clots.
	I would reserve, look, if you want to say they're chicken fat clots, well then prove to me they're chicken fat clots.
	And even if they were, then how come people that I've talked to with 30, 40, 50 years of experience, much more experience than myself, had never seen these kind of clots?
	And even if it's chicken fat clots, all of a sudden, why are we seeing them in these sizes so often?
	You know, it begs my mind to go like, all right, fine.
	It's chicken fat clots.
	Well, if something's causing a crap ton of chicken fat clots to grow, I'm going to show you.
	I mean, this is a smaller one right here.
	I'll just give you an idea of the size of this thing.
	That was found in what?
	In a vein?
	This, I believe, was probably from an artery.
	I have an even better one right here.
	I want you to see this.
	I mean, this is the length of my arm.
	Yeah, that looks...
	I mean, I say it looks like...
	I know I understand why people say they look like parasites.
	I mean, that looks like...
	Show me a chicken fat clot of that size.
	You know, I mean, literally, look at the length of this thing.
	That's 19 inches long.
	Do you know what the person died from from the womb that was taken?
	No, I don't know what they died from.
	I just know that they died with this stuff.
	Because the thing that when I look at it, and the only thing I'm telling myself is there's no way anybody lives with that.
	It's like you can't live with that.
	Even the one that we saw you removing.
	I would presume you can't live with that in your body.
	You'd have all sorts of immediate or at least close proximate issues about swelling or poor circulation.
	And so the question is, and if it were to develop post-mortem, you don't know the proximity of time of death to at least the ones where you're finding these clots.
	How long do they typically take to develop?
	Although you're saying they could develop...
	Before death, if they're bedridden and whatever.
	You're so spot on on all of the same concerns that I've had, Viva.
	You know, the idea that, oh, it's all because of cold storage.
	Well, how is that possible when I'm getting them, you know, sometimes I get to the funeral home before the body's even there.
	So, I mean, we're talking about embalming them in a short period of time.
	And again, for 20 years, I've been embalming and never saw clots like this before.
	It doesn't make sense.
	And at one time, in the beginning, especially when we first started seeing them, the idea that these are simply postmortem clots or chicken fat clots.
	All right, well, you want to say chicken, but then how come I didn't see these in my first 20 years of doing this?
	Someone will call you a liar.
	I don't know.
	That's the only way they can get out of that.
	Hypothetically, in the last three years, are you receiving bodies from different, I want to say sources, but is it possible you're cutting into a different market?
	And so the bodies are coming from places where people have had radically different diets than what you've been typically dealing with.
	Prior to COVID, I'm just thinking out loud.
	Yeah, I know.
	But I've had embalmers contact me from all over the United States.
	I've come to know John O'Looney over in the UK.
	He too is.
	They are seeing the exact same thing.
	I've met some from Australia and New Zealand.
	Exactly the same thing going on.
	They're seeing the same thing.
	If this is so rare, Vivian, I'm just going to...
	I mean, here are six different bodies right here.
	That doesn't count the two bodies that I, or the two that I just got.
	And I've got, I've collected probably over 200 of these things now.
	If it's so rare, then how do I have so much of it?
	And also, how did you not notice it before when you're flushing out the body?
	The question was this, of those six samples, and they look, you know, I mean, similar-ish.
	Do you know, is there any...
	I don't know if you have even the details on them.
	Age, I know you don't have cause of death, but is there any sort of similarity, or are they both young, old, which would further make it very mysterious as to how these clots develop in both old and young or across the spectrum?
	That's a concern, isn't it?
	Because I've had them in children, and I've had them all the way up in age.
	I will tell, honestly, the majority of the people are elderly.
	I see them more often in the elderly, but I've had them in children too.
	They're not always huge.
	Sometimes I get just a small sample.
	Look at that one.
	I'll try to get it to move a little bit so you can see it better.
	I can definitely understand how people think it looks like a parasite.
	Absolutely. But it's not a parasite.
	Not my understanding.
	Not from what I've been told.
	And the other issue is...
	I could ask this stupid question.
	By the time you get the body, there's no circulation, so you don't know if it was there while the body was alive or if it ended up there after the person died and circulation stopped.
	Yes. I would like to say, and this is my speculation for the most part, This 19-inch clot, I mean, think about it.
	There's, you know, almost, there's parts of this that's almost as thick as my finger.
	This came from a very large artery.
	I got this out from the iliac artery going up towards the heart.
	So it was literally going up this way.
	You got that one yourself?
	Yes. And the embalmer that was sitting across from me was like, holy smokes, that thing's huge.
	Anyway, It's hard for me to imagine that that just formed in a very short period of time.
	And to have the strength for me to pull that out without it breaking, that is even more alarming.
	Now, I had a case of a young guy who died who had what was called an ECMO device attached to the individual, which is basically a tube about the same size as this.
	That went into the neck, and there was another one that went near the iliac.
	And what that was, it was in a major vein.
	It went to a machine where it oxygenates the blood.
	It's kind of almost like being on life support.
	It's helping the lung add oxygen to the body.
	Well, this young man died.
	Obviously, he was in a lot of stress.
	But it was over 24 hours.
	Now, this person was in the cooler.
	Okay. But when I went to him bomb the body, I'd never seen this in there.
	I mean, I understand, you know, they do it, but usually they have everything disconnected.
	But they left it connected.
	They just simply took the two ends of the tube, plugged them together so that the blood wouldn't just run out all over the place.
	When I started the embalming process, I simply opened the thing to allow drainage.
	And out of the tube, inside the tube, there was areas that were black and areas that were kind of like this creamy color-looking fluid, which I believe is the plasma.
	The blood and the plasma had separated.
	When the black stuff came out, it didn't come out as blood.
	It came out as like a typical clot.
	I went to, you know, grab...
	Like loose, wet Jell-O.
	No, literally like jello, the form of the tube itself.
	One solid clot.
	I went to grab some.
	It would do what a typical clot does.
	It fell apart.
	It just fell apart.
	It was really slick.
	But when that creamy stuff came out, came out one of these clots.
	Okay? Now, after I was done, I had to disconnect everything.
	And at the end of the area, like the one that went into the neck, It had, like, a little device, and then there were all these little holes in it, and that allowed the blood to go back into the body.
	And there was, like, not a screen, but, you know, kind of like a little screen.
	And that allowed the blood to enter into that system, be oxygenated, and then pumped it back into the body.
	Those holes were too small for the clot that came out, that white, fibrous-looking clot, to come out of that vessel.
	Or out of that tube.
	So there's no way for it.
	It couldn't have entered the tube because it was too big.
	And it couldn't get out of the tube because it was too big.
	It had to have formed in the tube.
	And I do not believe that the clot formed while the person was alive.
	I believe it was formed when the person died.
	And here's what I think is happening.
	It is something in the blood that Is condensing when the person dies.
	Think about oil and vinegar.
	You shake it up.
	You emulsify it, whatever.
	But as soon as you stop shaking it, what happens to the oil and the vinegar?
	It begins to separate.
	Correct? Now imagine this material is forming in between the two layers.
	But you don't notice it until it starts to separate.
	It's a new element.
	And the latest analysis that we had done are the latest tests, the thioflav and T-test, showing that it really looks like it's an amyloid.
	It's an amyloid, which is nothing more than a misfolded protein.
	And I think what's happening is there are damaged proteins, misfolded proteins that are floating around in the blood system, and something happens, and I don't know what it is.
	That causes these amyloids to start sticking together and forming these polymeric fibrous clots.
	That's what I think is happening.
	I got two of the biggest questions that I had after watching Die Suddenly.
	You don't know the vaccination status of anybody that you're embalming.
	I only know the vaccination status if the funeral director happens to ask the family and then the funeral director tells me that, yes, they were, they weren't.
	In the beginning, when all of this stuff was going on, and this is before I went public, it was...
	I mean, the funeral directors were shocked at what they were seeing, too.
	And they would start asking the questions.
	And I would...
	Well, actually, I would start...
	I said, I bet you this one is vaccinated.
	I actually had one of those calls.
	I had to call the funeral director because there was a...
	I was told to clean shave the person.
	No mustache, no beard, nothing like that.
	But when I got to the funeral home and the body that I saw...
	I saw a mustache and I called him and I said, hey, can you just double check about, it looks like this person has a mustache and I'd hate to shave it off if it's supposed to be there.
	So he calls the family and then I'm doing my work.
	I'm doing all these other preparations and I'm preparing and I'm getting these clots as I'm getting ready, kind of like the pictures that you showed.
	And they were pretty massive.
	He calls me back saying, thank you.
	I appreciate you calling.
	You are absolutely right.
	This person does need to have a mustache.
	And I said, something tells me that this guy was vaccinated.
	And he said, it's funny you mention that because I was just speaking to the spouse.
	And the spouse said they didn't understand why this person died.
	And they labeled him as a COVID death.
	The spouse couldn't understand it because the spouse was vaccinated.
	And, you know, remember in the beginning, they said it's safe and effective that if you get the vaccine, you won't get COVID.
	And then they were starting to come out saying, oh, it's a breakthrough case and whatever.
	And I'm like working with these bodies.
	I'm like, now I just got verification.
	Because the family member just disclosed that to the funeral director, and he shared that with me.
	And now I'm thinking, holy smokes, is it the virus caused this, or was it a combination of the virus and the vaccine, which we're now on deeper into our investigation, and it looks like this is a lot spike protein related, and I have papers that say that the spike protein from COVID The virus causes...
	Well, let's see.
	I have it right here.
	The whole irony is there's a massive...
	I wouldn't call it a cash 22, but a constantly spinning goalpost where some people are saying it's always been here.
	I mean, it's always been around, you know, whatever.
	And yet, whether or not it's been observed, others are saying, I've only observed it now, but it's related to COVID infection.
	And so you have...
	People on both ends saying, no, but for different reasons.
	And the bottom line is, well, whether or not it's correlated to vaccination, infection, a bit of A and a bit of B, and whether or not it's more common for other reasons entirely like, I don't know, global warming.
	Bada bing, bada boom, I'm joking.
	I should say climate change.
	Perfect. Okay, sorry, go ahead.
	You were going to say something about the study, and I interrupted.
	Yeah, well, I mean, this is a...
	This was a paper we dug up.
	It says, SARS-CoV-2 spike protein induces abnormal inflammatory blood clots neutralized by fibrin immunotherapy.
	All right.
	So that sounds very interesting, right?
	This is a paper relating clots to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
	Correct? Yes.
	All right.
	Now, this paper was put out October 13th of 2021.
	Okay? What does the vaccine do?
	Makes your body create spike protein to create an immune response, correct?
	Correct, as far as I understand it.
	As far as I've understood it, is this what they've been saying?
	Hey, we're going to put the spike protein into your body.
	We're going to make your body create spike protein to initiate an immune response.
	Knowing... That the spike protein by itself causes...
	That coronavirus itself causes spike protein.
	This was...
	Not just coronavirus, the coronavirus spike protein.
	What is the mRNA is making your body create a synthetic spike protein that causes abnormal clots.
	My mind is going, wait a second.
	You're wanting the body to create spike protein to induce an immune response.
	And we don't know how long the body is going to create spike protein, but we already know that the spike protein by itself causes abnormal clots.
	And then we're like, oh, but Richard Hirschman was a conspiracy theorist.
	He's trying to blame the vaccine when it's the virus.
	Well, what if it's both?
	Well, not just what if it's both.
	This was one of the things I said from the beginning.
	What if the jab compounds whatever happens from the...
	Like they said, oh, you're more likely to get myocarditis from the virus than the jab.
	All right.
	Well, if I've already had the virus, why would I go compound my risk by getting the jab in addition to that?
	And when you had Fauci in front of, was it in front of Paul, where they were talking about why he's not recognizing prior infection as far as guidance for getting the jab goes.
	Because if you've already gotten it, on the one hand, you're immune, but also you might be compounding certain negative risks.
	Just so people can...
	Appreciate and digest accordingly.
	When you're doing these, you don't know, except for anecdotally, whether the person was vaccinated or not.
	You just know that you see this increase that you start remarking in end of 2021, midway through 2021?
	Well, okay.
	See, this is where everybody's getting mixed up on the time.
	I started noticing these things in early 2021.
	I usually was estimating around May.
	It could have been a little earlier than that, but it was no later than June.
	I didn't take the first image until September of 2021.
	And I didn't start collecting the data on what I was seeing until November and December of 2021.
	And I was talking with my personal doctor.
	I was talking with other morticians.
	I was talking with funeral directors, people that had been in the business longer than me.
	My story went public because Dr. Teresa Long, the flight surgeon here at Fort Rucker, happened to be at a funeral home that I do some work for, and they got on this topic.
	She was the DOD whistleblower, one of the DOD whistleblowers.
	Anyway... I was, the funeral, one of the funeral directors says, you need, you need to, you need to talk to our embalmer.
	So next thing you know, I've been put in contact with her.
	She gave my name to, to Dr. Jane Ruby, who then contacted me and, you know, we started doing all the, sharing this stuff.
	And then the public, it did not go public until January 26th or 27th, right around there of 2022.
	And the vaccine had been ruled out, give or take, January 2021.
	Right. My only gauge is Tiffany Dover, the nurse, passing out when she got the shot and theorizing that that gave birth to.
	Okay, so you didn't, as far as your recollection goes, you didn't notice it before the jab.
	You noticed it, you know, I'd say a year into...
	Into COVID itself, and you don't know the vaccine status of the people at the time.
	Some might even argue that if you started noticing it that early, that maybe it's more correlated to infection than to the jab, because I don't know when it was rolled out at mass scales.
	And just to get clear on what you do and do not do, people say, well, you're not...
	What's the word of the person who cuts open the body and goes to the organs?
	I'm not a pathologist or a medical examiner.
	Or a coroner.
	And a coroner doesn't even cut into the body.
	It's a medical examiner or a pathologist.
	A coroner is like a person that goes out and pronounces somebody dead.
	Unless they happen to be a medical examiner, but they're not the ones that actually do the autopsy.
	Okay. And so, bottom line, you're not dissecting these bodies, but for where you're allowed to go into, you can't say, well, maybe I'll take a peek somewhere else just to see what's going on.
	That's correct.
	Okay, so there's a lot of variables where people can say, okay, draw your own connections or draw your own conclusions or deny your observations at large.
	What are some of the typical, we don't need to get into the superficial retorts, but the typical retorts are, this is normal, you're actually just, call it misrepresenting or confusing what's a normal chicken fat clot.
	They're not more common than they ever were, but if they are, it's only because people have a different diet.
	Well, that's crazy.
	Then the 80% of us that are now acknowledging these things and all of those people like myself that are saying they've never seen them.
	I guess we're all liars.
	I don't understand why people want to sit there and try to poo-poo this stuff.
	I'm not a medical examiner and I'm not a doctor, but I know what I know.
	I'm very familiar with what it is.
	Viva, I would...
	You know what you're seeing with your own two freaking eyes and how it differs from what you've seen for the last two decades of your career.
	Exactly. And I have the evidence in front of me.
	I have had some of the embalmers that I've talked to.
	They're like, you know, because I'm like, surely we're not losing our minds.
	And I had one sit there and say to me, he's like, do you ever remember seeing these in your textbook?
	I'm like, no.
	I've never seen these in my textbook.
	They've had all this time to show the evidence of things that are before.
	It'd be interesting to know on some of those images that you tried to share a little bit ago, how old are those?
	Are those relatively recent pictures that they're starting to show up?
	I know that one from the veterinary book, the one they had to scour for to try to find that chicken fat clot was from an old veterinary textbook.
	But why is it taking all this time?
	I've been thrown under the bus.
	We got a paper here.
	Here's a paper right here.
	They were saying SARS-CoV-2 vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia.
	How about that?
	Vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia.
	That is blood clotting caused by what?
	The vaccine.
	And this came from the New England Journal of Medicine dated, published.
	April 16th.
	2021. Right about the time I was saying something's changed.
	Not that I was saying it publicly, but at the time I was recognizing something has changed.
	Something's wrong.
	They pulled the Johnson& Johnson in Quebec or in Canada after a Quebec woman died of a clot.
	But I don't know what that clot would look like compared to the white-ish ones that you're pulling out.
	Because I don't know what it looks like.
	I should probably look that up.
	But the bottom line, first of all, that chicken fat thing looked nothing like what you pulled out.
	It's weird that none of the images come up that look anything like what you've seen.
	But from your own experience, you'd never seen them.
	And these come up in your standard blushing out of the arteries in order to embalm the people.
	Yeah. The majority of the clots that are coming out are coming out during the embalming process.
	However, that image that I showed you earlier, the ones that you were looking at, are prior to me injecting that vessel.
	I mean, I hadn't even made the incision in it.
	And one of the pictures you haven't showed yet, I show the image on my glove.
	That is what the clot that was in that vein, that's what I pulled out.
	Let me see here, the white fibrous clot.
	And let me pull this up.
	Because to me, like...
	It's not something that they could possibly have been living with.
	That's it.
	The question is, does it form abnormally after circulation stops?
	I don't know if it's not an expert medical opinion or even an expert opinion.
	You can't live with that in your vein.
	Nor can you live with that circulating through your body.
	It's either what killed the person.
	Or it developed after death, but there's no way that anybody could live with that in their veins.
	Well, but Viva, whether this...
	I can't say that this is what killed anyone.
	Whether this happens anti-mortem, which is before death, or post-mortem, that's after death.
	All I am saying is this, that used to not be there, is now there.
	Something's in the blood.
	What you have not seen for the last two decades of your career, you're now seeing more than you've ever seen before.
	Give me one second, this dog.
	No problem.
	I have that same issue sometimes.
	And now, you have not...
	I don't know what science you'd be able to do in order to determine what the composition of the clot is.
	Oh, we're working on that.
	We are working on that.
	Not to be gross.
	It looks like calamari.
	If you can't...
	Like smudge it into non-existence.
	It's not like what you would do with jello.
	This will retain its sort of like elasticity.
	It feels and looks like a rubber band that's mushier than a rubber band.
	And a normal red blood clot, that's exactly what it would do.
	If you were to sit there and manipulate grape jelly in your fingers, it's going to dissolve.
	Same thing with jello.
	That's what a normal blood clot would do.
	This will not do that.
	Now, a chicken fat would not necessarily dissolve in your hand either because it's like fat.
	We call them chicken fat because that's what they look like.
	They're yellow.
	They're not white.
	They're yellow.
	And they look like chicken fat.
	Typically, when we see them, they come out in little small chunks, just like when you're cleaning your chicken and you see the little fat pieces up underneath the skin.
	That's typically what a chicken fat clot looks like.
	But it doesn't have enough strength for you to sit there and hang some forceps on it without it coming apart.
	They're still weak.
	They're very weak.
	These are not like you can't break them.
	I'm just saying their tensile strength is way stronger than any typical blood clot would have ever been.
	One of the things with the anti-mortem, post-mortem.
	We've had whistleblowers.
	There was a whistleblower that was Dr. Philip McMillan had him.
	He came out because Philip McMillan was questioning about the clots too.
	And he was a cath lab worker, basically working in removing clots from living people.
	And he was saying that they too were seeing these strange clots in the living.
	And he said 99% of the ones that he has been pulling these abnormal clots were all vaccinated.
	We're going to call them the calamari clots.
	We'll call them the calamari clots, yeah.
	Were they the exact same?
	I don't know.
	But he shared some images with Dr. Philip McMillan.
	He was anonymous, of course.
	We've also had contact with another cardiovascular surgeon who, too, said they were seeing it, was going to come out public, and then went silent.
	And the last message that we had heard from him was, I was instructed to end all communications in this regard.
	So, somebody told him to not speak anymore.
	Okay. It's terrible stuff because this is important.
	Ignoring this problem isn't an issue.
	Again, I can't say these clots killed somebody.
	How do you get a postmortem clot?
	Because they're saying they're postmortem, right?
	Always been there.
	How do you get a postmortem clot from a living person, from these cath lab whistleblowers?
	Postmortem is after death.
	You can't get a postmortem clot from a living person.
	It doesn't work that way.
	I'm going to get to all of the questions because there's a bunch in the chat.
	When you pull it out, And it seems that there's some friction, and I'm thinking out loud again.
	When they're pulling similar, but maybe smaller or whatever, of these clots out of living people, that would suggest that it's sort of, it's possibly like somehow affixed to the inside of a vein or an artery?
	That's right.
	And I'll sit there and I'll use this as an example.
	I'm going to try to get, let's see here.
	If you see here, you see all these little fibers and you see some of these parts that are a little bit dark?
	What I think is going on there, let me try to get my camera zoomed a little bit better.
	Well, I think that is probably the best.
	I think we see them right there.
	And it kind of looks like not tentacles, but like hairs.
	What we think, and again, I'm not a medical doctor.
	What we think is going on, those are like attachment points, where it's kind of somewhat attached to the vessel wall.
	This thing is so huge and it's so dense.
	We think that these really dense ones may be anti-mortem.
	They're much more polymerized, probably.
	We are thinking that they are forming prior to death, that they were in.
	And what's happening, just like in the picture that you saw, when you saw the blue, you could see that little bit of white.
	Then when I raised it up, you could see the clot on the inside.
	Yeah, that's the clot removed.
	If you went to the earlier picture where you just see the look like an eye, what we think is happening is there's still enough room for the blood to flow around these things if they're being formed while someone is alive.
	You've seen the clots, what was it, before death and after death?
	Antimortem is before death and postmortem is after death.
	Have you ever...
	I've come across a case where it was the cause of death.
	I can't say that.
	Listen, I can tell you I've had some of these.
	I had one.
	It measured 17 inches long.
	I got there before the body was even at the funeral home.
	The family was distraught, all this stuff.
	They were actually in the funeral home.
	They came right after the person died.
	They were talking with them.
	They said that the person went in with a, they said they had blood clots, major blood clots, but they were so entrenched that they didn't think they could remove them, and they couldn't remove them in time before the person died.
	So they knew the clots were there.
	And then, you know, the person died before they could remove enough fluid from around the heart in order to go in and safely remove them.
	I've had other ones that the family said that, well, and I knew this person had like a brain bleed.
	They had done surgery on the head.
	There was a surgical incision that was sutured back up.
	And before I even worked on the person, I said, I bet you this person had clots.
	And I'm doing the embalming.
	And sure enough, I'm right.
	There's more clots there.
	The family said that the person was vaccinated, didn't want to get vaccinated, but was coerced by her doctor to get vaccinated, ended up having a stroke or having a clot.
	They removed the clot from the individual.
	The surgeon actually showed the family a picture of the clot, and the family member said, this is what the family members are telling to the funeral director who shared this with me.
	The family member said, they asked the doctor, I thought blood clots are red.
	What does that tell you?
	The clot wasn't red.
	And just to be the devil's advocate, people are going to say this is third-party hearsay, but this is anecdotal.
	They say, I thought it was red, because if I'm looking at that and I'm saying, that doesn't look like a blood clot, that looks like, it looks like a ligament.
	Like calamari.
	Yeah, it looks like calamari, and you can't live with that in your vein.
	And if it's whether or not it's affixed so that blood gets around it and it only represents an obstruction, if at some point it breaks off, I would imagine that becomes the cause of death, but you're not able to determine that because you're not the...
	Pathologist. Pathologist or a coroner.
	Okay, and...
	In terms of determining the substance of the clots, I don't even know how that works.
	Do you submit that to a lab?
	Good luck.
	That is one of the things that I found out.
	This is one of the things, and a lot of this stuff.
	Now, Dr. Jane Ruby knows Mike Adams.
	So Mike Adams did what's called an ICP-MS analysis, which basically showed the breakdown, a chemical breakdown or elemental breakdown of the clot material.
	And that, thank goodness to that analysis that was done, caught the attention of people that I've been working with over a year now, for sure.
	And we've got this kind of stuff.
	I've shared some of this on my ex-posts.
	And they replicated the ICP-MS results through a couple of different labs overseas.
	And the way the lab thing works is a lot of times it's connections, Viva.
	You can't just go walk up to some university or some lab and say, hey, test this.
	And they're going to say, well, who are you?
	Are you a doctor?
	What university are you with?
	What lab company are you with?
	What clinic are you with?
	You know what I'm saying?
	You can't just go in there and get stuff done.
	Trust me, I learned this the hard way.
	It just so happens that people that are like, wait a minute, something's wrong here and I want to investigate this.
	I am a scientist or I am a doctor and I have connections with people within certain labs and universities and I'm able to find a way to sneak this stuff in there under the radar to have this test done.
	That's how a lot of this testing is actually being completed.
	The ICP-MS results have verified what Mike Adams has found.
	In addition to what Mike Adams found, they did another one that ends up testing for another element, sulfur, and they found that the two major components in the ICP-MS was phosphorus and sulfur.
	And of course, that wrote us down the path of how is there so much phosphorus in there?
	What's causing this phosphorus?
	What's going on?
	They believe an aberrant phosphorylation process taking place, which means...
	Very little to the average person, including myself, except for understand aberrant phosphorylation means phosphorylation going haywire.
	Something's wrong with the phosphorylation.
	So they ended up doing some additional analysis on several different clots through, and of course they used more than one lab, and they did what's called a HPLC mass spectrometer.
	Mass spectrometer analysis of the blood clots themselves.
	And they did this on several clots, not just one.
	They did it on several.
	And the one that I've posted where it shows the top 21 proteins is all of the analysis results combined together to give an average.
	They're doing this on purpose.
	Is to protect the labs, the people that are working on this, and the universities that are associated with to keep communications going.
	They don't want necessarily somebody to lose their career or lose this job on this, trying to bring this thing forward.
	So the top 21 proteins are an average of several samples done together.
	They did amino acid tests.
	And now, just this last week, Last Monday, as a matter of fact, I was given instructions to, when I get one of these clots, to do a quick wash in alcohol, basically put it in a vial with some grain alcohol, give it a little shake, we'll take it out.
	Put it into another vial, which was a similar vial than this.
	And then I had to fill that vial with argon gas in order to, instead of putting it in formalin.
	And we took it to, I then ended up taking it to a lab hours, several hours from where I live, to where they were able to do thioflav and tea.
	And I can try this.
	I have some images that I might can try to do the screen share and share what I'm seeing.
	And maybe you could do some zooming in there.
	I don't know.
	If you want me to try it, I will.
	Yeah, yeah, please.
	Okay, so I see the present, right?
	Click the present button.
	Click present, and I think I should see it in the backdrop, and then I bring it in once I see it.
	I can do a screen share, and then I see screen sharing easiest with two monitors.
	You're still doing embalming, right?
	Oh, yeah, I still do embalming.
	Are you seeing more or less or the same of this?
	It seems to have slowed down a little bit, but it's still pretty close to 45% of the cases I'm doing is in it.
	I don't know.
	Is this sharing this at all?
	I don't see it yet.
	You don't see it.
	Okay, so that's not it.
	I hit the screen share.
	Okay, select tab to share.
	Oh, yeah.
	Is it like a PDF?
	No, I have it pulled up on a thing right now.
	Yeah, you have to have that open behind your screen.
	I do.
	And then highlight that.
	And then when you come back to your screen, it should give you the option.
	If you go to present, share screen, and then you'll see window or entire screen.
	And I think it would be window, which will allow you to bring up.
	Oh, okay.
	Good, good, good, good.
	All right.
	So here it is.
	All right.
	So I'm going to share this.
	Can you see that image yet?
	Yeah. It's good for me to bring up.
	I don't want to bring up anything bad.
	Add to stage.
	Here we go.
	Now you control it.
	Okay. So.
	Are you able to see the zooming?
	Oh, yeah.
	All right.
	So this is a thioflavin T of one of the clots.
	And this clot came from an artery, okay?
	What the thioflavin T does is it shows luminescence of amyloid.
	So all of this stuff that you see here, all of this green.
	Is showing amyloid, which is scary.
	I mean, this is a pretty powerful thing.
	And if I didn't have the stuff, I mean, you can see as I'm zooming in, you see all these little fibers.
	So all these bright spots are amyloid.
	What is amyloid?
	Amyloid, which is great.
	I'm going to go ahead.
	I'm going to...
	How do I get this?
	Stop sharing this one, right?
	Yeah. And then try to go back to you.
	And I'm going to show you what it looks like with the fluorescent light off.
	Okay, and while you do that, I'll just see amyloid.
	Amyloid. Amyloid is a misfolded protein.
	I don't even know how to spell it.
	A-M-Y-L-O-I-D.
	Yes. It's a protein that forms insoluble fibrillus that can build up in organs and tissues, causing disease.
	Interesting. Let's see what the images for amyloid look like.
	Oh, it's not working for me.
	I'm not going to be able to do it.
	You go ahead and show it, because that's what people need to know.
	People need to know this.
	This is important.
	This is a relatively new confirmation.
	We were already suspecting we were going to find this through Congo Red Staining that was already done by people like Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Arnie Burkhart.
	In the past.
	But we learned that clots formed.
	You've got to look at thioflavin T images.
	Amalone protein.
	Yeah. What is it?
	T-H.
	I-O-F-L-A-V-I-N.
	Flavin! Right.
	Dial Flavin T. Scroll down in there and you can look at some images.
	But you want to really look at the images.
	Scroll down.
	Go back up a little bit.
	This right here?
	Yeah, you can do that.
	That's maybe fine.
	See that green?
	Green versus blue, yep.
	That green is amyloid.
	So this is highly Highly concerning.
	As a matter of fact, I didn't publicly go out with this finding right away because I needed to digest what was going on.
	Let me explain a little bit.
	I got a little thing here.
	Okay. What is this?
	Paperclip. A paperclip.
	What is this?
	That's a paperclip, but it's a broken paperclip.
	It's the same thing.
	So think about a protein is like a paperclip.
	And think about an amyloid is still a paperclip, but it's all out of shape.
	It's misfolded.
	Now this paperclip won't work anymore, will it?
	It will not work as it's intended to be.
	So an amyloid is simply a protein or a paperclip that has been out of shape.
	Now here's a problem with that.
	Imagine if I have two quarters.
	And I take one of the quarters and I bend it all up.
	And imagine an enzyme is what eats the protein or breaks the protein down.
	But we're going to call the enzyme a Coke machine.
	Will the bent up quarter work when you put it into the slot of the Coke machine?
	If it's bent up bad enough, you can't even get it into the slot.
	This is the problem.
	Amyloids have a hard time of being broke down because the enzymes that normally take care of the protein, it doesn't fit.
	Everything is a lock and a key.
	There's a certain way things fit together.
	Just like a quarter goes into the slot of a Coke machine.
	It's a certain diameter.
	It's a certain weight.
	All of that stuff matters.
	It goes down to the machine.
	You take a quarter and you bend the heck out of that quarter and change the shape, maybe cut off a corner of it, that quarter will no longer work in your machine.
	You see what I'm saying?
	This is the danger.
	You want to really do something interesting is look up the odds of getting some of the health concerns of amyloid.
	Look up whether it is...
	What are the odds of having amyloidosis?
	Let's say amyloid health risk.
	Amyloid can harm the kidneys filtering system.
	They affect your ability to remove waste products.
	It's a protein deposition disease that can cause serious health issues.
	How about that?
	What's amazing is that I'm still getting a little pissed off about that stupid community note.
	Chicken fat.
	If they've always been there and they're post-mortem, Okay, fine.
	It would be interesting to see another picture of a 12-inch long, very fibrous calamari-type clot.
	So you're still doing them.
	You're still noticing them.
	Let me bring up some questions here, at least some comments.
	Richard, I chose natural immunities and never got sick.
	Have you noticed a difference in blood types with these clots?
	We are RH negative.
	You don't know much about their condition unless you ask or unless they offer.
	Yes, and of course, you know, I don't get to meet with the family, so I don't get to ask families questions.
	I spoke to a funeral director the other day, an embalmer, who does speak with families, and he's very bold and blunt with them, and he asks them.
	He's like, you know, I'm just curious.
	Just, you mind if I ask you some questions?
	And they go down this road.
	And he has found that all of the unusual deaths, the strange cancers, the unusual, you know, died suddenly type.
	He's asked them, just by chance, did they receive the COVID vaccine?
	He said 100% of them, they all have had the vaccine.
	He's able to answer these kind of questions where, unfortunately, I don't get to.
	I just know what I see, and I'm only trying to report what I know.
	As far as the blood type, we looked into this, the people that I'm...
	I've been working with and doing some research.
	And of course, I can't say it's 100%, but some of the research indicates that blood types do matter and that the safest blood group that's out there happens to be the O blood group because of a thing called von Willebrand factors.
	They're the lowest intensity, I guess is what they call it, of clotting issues.
	So that's a fair question to ask.
	Is it worth asking?
	Well, yeah, it's worth asking because, my God, if we don't start asking questions, we'll never get to the answer.
	You know, Viva, I was sitting there, I was having this discussion.
	You know, people want to sit there and say this, you know, Richard, you're not a doctor.
	You're not a pathologist.
	You're not a scientist.
	You're just a mortician.
	Shut up and go do your job and not say anything.
	And, you know, how dare you ethically share the things that you're finding in the embalming room with the world?
	That's just horrible.
	If my neighbor's house is right down the road here, I can see it.
	And I start to see smoke coming out of the house.
	So I call 911 and say, hey, I believe my neighbor's house is on fire.
	And that dispatcher says, can you give me a better description?
	I'm sorry.
	What makes you think the house is on fire?
	Well, I see smoke coming out of it.
	Wait, there's some flames.
	I'm sorry, sir.
	It's just your word.
	So I send videos and I send pictures of the stuff that I'm seeing.
	I'm like, this house is on fire.
	And then the dispatcher says, I'm sorry, sir, but are you a licensed or a qualified firefighter?
	No. Well, I'm sorry.
	Until we get a report from a qualified firefighter, we're not going to waste our firefighter resources.
	We're not going to go ahead and send that out there.
	And then, so the house burns down, and unfortunately, there just so happens to be some children in that house.
	Who's to blame here?
	Is it me for trying to sound an alarm?
	Now, if I had said nothing, wouldn't that, I mean, how would that ethically make people feel?
	Well, this is what pisses me off.
	You're not a doctor.
	You're just a, whether people consider it, you are a professional who's been operating in this field with experience that even a doctor doesn't have.
	And, you know, to cover your bum and my bum here as well, I'm sure you've read at least the summary of this report.
	This was the number three finding of the bipartisan committee for which there was consensus that they should have been listening to frontline doctors treating patients.
	Now, apply that mutanus mutanus.
	You're not a doctor treating patients.
	You're an embalmer who's at the, you know, one step next level after the doctors dealing with the triage of the dead.
	And if you see signals, there's no one else that's going to observe those signals after you or before you.
	Perfect. Now the question is this.
	Have you noticed a frequency of embalming?
	Age? Lower age?
	Have you noticed any other trends that would be signals for anybody who cares to pay attention?
	The signals are people are getting younger.
	I'm not saying...
	We're just bombarded with teenagers or young adults.
	But I'm saying overall, the number of people that are dying are getting younger.
	The number of cancers that are happening are growing.
	The people that are...
	I mean, we've had people that found out they had cancer and literally died the next day.
	We've had them that have died within weeks, some within months, some of them with multiple cancers.
	Some of them have come in, they found out they had cancer.
	Or, you know, they found out they had cancer, like, literally days or a few weeks before.
	When I'm doing the embalming process, had I not been told this person died of cancer, I wouldn't even know it.
	Because my years of experience of dealing with cancer patients...
	Is they whittling away?
	Yeah, they whittle away.
	Unfortunately, the cancer, you know, a lot of times will take years.
	And through the treatments, they've lost their hair.
	Now, mine, I don't have cancer.
	That's just, I'm bald.
	Okay, so...
	But they become emaciated.
	You end up seeing tumors.
	Sometimes we see tumors that look weird.
	I'm not saying cancers never exist.
	I know they have.
	I'm just saying the number of cancers that are happening are amazing.
	The connection to how fast people are dying.
	I've had funeral directors say, it's amazing how many brain tumors we're having.
	You want to look up some weird stuff, man.
	I mean, start connecting amyloid and cancers or prions.
	The ask, is amyloid related to prion?
	I couldn't believe it when I saw that.
	I was like, holy smokes.
	I mean, are we looking at a potential prion disease that's going?
	Hey, listen, Viva, if I'm wrong, which I believe the vaccine is the main culprit here because of the timing.
	Even if it's a combination of the both or one or the other, even if it's neither one, Viva.
	Do you not think this isn't an important thing, especially now that it tested positive for amyloid?
	It's a no-brainer to me, but I am one who wants to know the truth, whether it's good or bad, or whether I like it or not.
	I don't have a financial interest in concealing the truth, as is more likely than not the case in terms of why this is not being explored.
	And you're not the only embalmer who's noticed this.
	By the way, just anecdotally.
	I was biking back in Canada, and I talked to people and started talking to someone who happens to be a doctor working in the ER.
	And they're like, what we're seeing is, in terms of age of ER entries, for whatever the reason, is anomalous.
	And I was like, you know, I've got a YouTube channel.
	Would you want to talk about it?
	He's like, absolutely not.
	And don't ever mention that I didn't know the person's name.
	He's like, absolutely not.
	And no, I would be out on my ass and career ruined for the rest of my life.
	This is anecdotally of people who are In the front lines.
	Richard, let me bring up a couple here.
	One of them is not a question.
	It's an actual Biltong.
	If you're going to get some Biltong.
	These are the chats here.
	ASDSS over in Rumble says, In Gross Anatomy Lab about a dozen years ago, I found a similar clot in a cadaver's aorta.
	And then Biltong says, Give the gift that keeps on giving.
	The climate by eating more Biltong.
	Promo code 10. Code 10 Viva 10 for 10% off.
	And you also have his channel Eat at Anton.
	Rivka the Gamer says, Richard, how much blood do you think is needed to form those?
	And are there any plans to put together experiments to see if they form at blood separation?
	I'll donate to the blood test.
	But you don't get to experiment on the people that you're embalming.
	How do you keep them legally?
	Well, basically, is dumpster diving illegal, Viva?
	I don't think it is.
	And if anyone's leaving stuff that should not be gathered in a dumpster, they shouldn't be leaving it in a dumpster.
	Right. Okay, so dumpster diving.
	So in a sense, when we're embalming, this stuff simply gets flushed down the drain.
	It's just disposed of.
	It just goes away.
	I know this is back on the ethical side, okay?
	Some people will say it's unethical for me to collect samples without somebody's exact permission or whatever.
	And I've talked to attorneys about this, and they ask me, well, where do you stand?
	I mean, how do you feel about the ethics of this?
	And it is kind of like the burning house.
	If I see my neighbor's house and it's on fire, And I know whether there's people in there or not, and if I don't do anything and allow that house to burn down and potentially kids are in there, is that unethical for me just to sit back and do nothing when I have the ability to pick up a phone and call and say, hey, something's wrong.
	Something's wrong here.
	That's where I'm at.
	It would be unethical for me, which I truly believe.
	Again, even if this isn't related to COVID or the vaccines at all, I have seen a remarkable change in the presentation of the blood, and it started in early 2021.
	We don't have to go back and just study whether it's margarine or all this other stuff because margarine's been around for decades.
	Some were right in that time frame.
	We don't have to go digging and recreate the wheel.
	What changed at that time?
	And the first image I took was in September of 2021, which just so happened to be the time they were really starting to push the what?
	The mandates.
	I'm sorry.
	To me, the signs are obvious.
	If I'm wrong, prove me wrong.
	If I'm right, great.
	Let's move on.
	Even if I'm wrong, do we not need to consider what the heck is going on?
	This last test with the amyloid, Viva, says if this is amyloid, that means there's amyloid in the blood.
	We may be looking at a blood-borne amyloid clotting syndrome that's happening.
	And if we don't get a hold of it, and we don't do some research on it, we're not going to find solutions.
	And there's no telling how many people may end up suffering.
	The amyloid in the blood or the amyloid in the body can cause so many other health issues.
	And if you do a little bit of research on that, you'll see it almost mimics a lot of what people are having with vaccine side effects.
	And I'm sure if I look up amyloid.
	COVID infection.
	Let's see.
	Logically, altered amyloid processing was linked to neuronal injury and neuroinflammation but reduced.
	SARS-CoV-2 can result in neurological conditions, but the mechanisms of COVID-19 associated with the nervous system remain unclear.
	I'm sure we'll find the connection, and there might be an even logical connection for which, if it results also from COVID infection, then it would potentially also result from the jab.
	Well, you know, there was a paper that came out, and here's what it says.
	Subcutaneous uptake 18F, fluorobaden PET-CT, a case report of possible amyloid beta immune reactivity after COVID-19 vaccination.
	After COVID-19 vaccination.
	Amyloid beta immune reactivity.
	Amyloid. It says it right here.
	Guess what the date is?
	September 21st.
	September 2021.
	Richard, someone would have to just be calling you and all the other embalmers who have noticed the same thing pathological lawyers or grotesquely incompetent that you never even knew that you saw it for the last however many years of your career.
	Either that or something's up.
	It's quite obvious.
	It's more likely the latter.
	I'm going to read some from our...
	I'm not going to read some.
	I'm going to read all from our Locals community.
	We have a separate community over on vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Finboy Slick says, isn't this misshapen protein basically what prions disease is?
	Like mad cow.
	I don't know.
	I'm a hypochondriac, but I never got worried about that.
	You better be.
	You better be.
	I asked Google.
	Are amyloid and prion related?
	And this was their AI overview.
	This came from Google now.
	I asked, is amyloid and prion related?
	Yes! Amyloid and prion are related, with prions considered a specific type of amyloid where the aggregate proteins become self-perpetuating and infectious, meaning it can spread.
	And convert other normal proteins into the misfolded prion form.
	Especially, prions are a subset of amyloids with a unique ability to transmit their misfolded structure to other proteins, making them highly infectious.
	Amyloid refers to a general class of protein aggregates that form long fibrous structures, Due to misfolding and clumping together.
	That's what it says.
	Amyloid refers to a general class of protein aggregates that form long, fibrous structures due to misfolding and clumping together.
	Where prion, a specific amyloid protein that can self-replicate, spread its misfolded structure to other proteins, leading to infectious diseases like Creutzfeldt-Jacobs disease, which is mad.
	Cow. I pulled it up in Grok just to see if the answer would be roughly the same, and I highlighted the mad cow disease part.
	There you go.
	That's why this is so important.
	And if nobody was sounding an alarm of, hey, I see smoke, something's wrong.
	If nobody stood up and said, hey, there's a really weird clots going on here, nobody would know.
	Merchant Marine in Local says, obviously they've analyzed these under high-spectrum microscopes, right?
	What are they made out of?
	What material are they made of?
	Okay, we got to that.
	Merchant Marine also says, Viva, I'd like to know if they also make note of any dental mercury amalgams in their mouths and the number of them.
	These things need to be made of note since it's now proven mercury vapor release increases when exposed to any EMFs.
	Oh, that might be for the 5G free.
	Yeah, I understand what a lot of these people are saying.
	And the thing is, there's no funding for this.
	This is being done by people with connections that are just trying to do as much as they can.
	When it comes to some of the lab work, there's actual cost that's involved with that.
	But because of the connections that we have, we're pretty close to getting things.
	At cost, which makes it affordable to do some of them.
	But we do not have the funding to do all of that.
	We don't have a website.
	We're not selling books.
	We're not selling supplements.
	We have no monetized thing trying to gather money to do this.
	These are just simply doctors, scientists, researchers, chemists volunteering their time, their resources to try to get to the bottom of this.
	And because it's all being done under the table, There's very little actual paperwork that will sit there and show you something that any peer-reviewed place would probably even consider.
	So we're just sounding the alarm.
	What we're finding in hopes that actual people that have the ability to, okay, look, these people are saying they're finding this.
	Well, let's see if we can somehow get a hold of this material through the quote-unquote proper channels.
	And do these similar analysis.
	And we already know what they're going to find because we've done multiple tests on multiple samples.
	Merchant Marine also says, I wish you'd ask him for me, if it's possible, that elementary mercury introduced into the body as vapor.
	Okay, we got to that one.
	It's converted in the lungs to gas, much quickly oxidizes to mercury.
	Mercuric ion, which binds itself to other biomolecular like sulfur, could also be a cause for the clots interfering with blood flow.
	I know I've read research that mercury damages the cardiovascular system undoubtedly.
	Let me refresh and see if there's any questions that I missed on the left.
	I'm going to go to the regular chat.
	How freaky is it to be an embalmer?
	You're surrounded by death day in and day out.
	Does that not carry some sort of a toll on you?
	Well, yes, it does.
	You know, when you're a mortician, sometimes you have to deal with tough cases.
	And of course, for the average person, the children are hard to do.
	But, you know, for me, the hardest ones are the people that are young and still have a lot of life to live.
	And when I see their life snuffed out.
	Early. Those are tough.
	But when I see these clots in so many different bodies and it doesn't seem to matter, that's the thing.
	It doesn't seem to matter what they died of.
	I'm finding these clots that I used to never see.
	If you had a certain disease and we were told, oh, they had this disease, well, then you might can expect to see that.
	But these clots seem to be non-discriminate.
	They don't discriminate against anything.
	It doesn't matter what race you are.
	It doesn't matter what color you are.
	It doesn't matter what...
	Although it does seem that the younger people seem to have less of it, and older people seem to have more of it.
	I did a little research there, and apparently the older we get, the more apt we are to have clotting disorders, the older we get, especially once you get over 65 years old.
	So when I see this stuff and I realize what's happening, With all of the clotting issues in living people that were reported in 2021, before I went public, I was seeing all these reports.
	And when I'm seeing these reports of blood clots and I'm looking at the table and finding, you know, gobs and gobs of this kind of stuff right here, I'm like, these clots aren't the same.
	These clots are different.
	There's something different about these clots.
	So I'm concerned for humanity.
	Humanity itself is what's at stake, in my opinion.
	You asked another one of the things that I've noticed more of, and that is babies.
	There have been a lot more babies than I'm used to seeing.
	Not that I've never seen babies that have died, that didn't make it, but the number of, we call them fetal demises.
	Which is just prior to stillborn.
	And then we've had a number of them.
	I mean, I had a family member that, you know, unfortunately lost their baby at two weeks old.
	And yes, the answer is yes.
	I imagine like it's, you're looking at, not to, I don't want to.
	Harp on it.
	But you're looking at something that should be alive, and there's a part of you that almost feels like it has to be alive and has to still have that spark of being a living human, and it's just not, and it doesn't make sense that it's not.
	Richard is absolutely being ethical in sharing this, says Ray Kujua over on our Locos community.
	People need to go to jail over this, says LTV stuff.
	It's wild, actually.
	The mad cow disease was a restriction on giving blood for a while.
	I'm reading that also in the chat for reasons of infectious blood.
	And now you have people who are concerned about getting vaccinated blood.
	I would be too.
	Viva, early on, even prior to me being public, I was reaching out.
	I was talking with different doctors.
	Well, no, it wasn't after I was public.
	It was after I became public.
	So it was probably somewhere around early to mid-2022.
	I had a couple of cases where I saw these clots and the funeral director just asked the family if they were vaccinated and they were not vaccinated.
	But then found out later on that the individual had received a blood product, like a blood transfusion.
	And I messaged some of the doctors.
	I sent the pictures.
	Hey, is it possible that something could be passing through the blood in a transfusion?
	And I didn't get a yay or a nay.
	I got a...
	This is of great concern.
	And it should be of great concern because what if, and I've seen papers now recently that they're talking about there's something wrong in the plasma of vaccinated people when it comes to donations.
	So some places are starting to ask questions about, hey, are you vaccinated?
	Will they use the whole blood, the plasma?
	I don't understand platelets and all that kind of stuff.
	There's medical stuff that goes deep.
	But are we looking at another HIV?
	Remember when HIV was going around?
	Next thing you know, people that weren't the stereotype for HIV were getting HIV, and they discovered, oh my gosh, we got HIV in the blood transfusions.
	From the blood transfusions.
	Are we looking at the same thing?
	My God, if we've sat there and vaccinated, you know, 70% of the population, well, You can't live on just 20. I mean, if we sat there and excluded all of those people, that doesn't leave a big blood supply, does it?
	And so it's horrifying.
	And people ask me this question.
	Do I always see these clots in the bodies of vaccinated people?
	And the answer is no.
	I've had some bodies that I was expecting to see clots and didn't see any.
	But understand, like you said earlier, I'm not a pathologist.
	I can't go cutting up into the body.
	I can only see what comes out.
	That's it.
	Is there stuff that's in there that didn't come out that I don't see?
	I can't answer that question.
	But it is true that I've imbalmed some bodies that I thought for sure I would see these clots, and I did not see any of them.
	So I don't think everybody is affected the same way.
	Not everybody's allergic to peanut butter.
	Not everybody has the same reaction to a bee sting.
	Not everybody that is in a war dies.
	Not everybody that is shot at gets hit by the bullet.
	And not everybody that gets hit by the bullet is at fatal.
	But it doesn't make being in a war or being shot at safe.
	It doesn't make being in car accidents just because you walked away from one without a scratch doesn't make it safe for everybody else to just go ahead and be in car accidents.
	I'm not saying that everybody's going to die who had these vaccines.
	I'm just saying something's wrong and we got to get to the bottom of it.
	And we can't just keep ignoring it, especially now that we know this is amyloid.
	Start looking up amyloid and you're going to go like, holy crap!
	And I've been reading from the chat over here in Locals, who said...
	Amy Charles says, embolisms have become more prevalent in the last few years, and then I go, and lo and behold, embolism might have been the word I was looking for or thinking of when that thing detaches and blocks up an artery, but check, hold on, where is it?
	Google here.
	What's an embolism?
	An embolism, blockage in a vessel usually caused by a blood clot or other foreign object that cuts off blood supply to an organ or a body part.
	Okay, now we just go.
	So you have a thrombus, which is a blood clot, okay?
	An embolus or an embolism is a piece of that clot that becomes dislodged and starts floating through the system.
	Yeah, or another entity, which could be those.
	Yeah, it could be like you're getting, well, I know people get freaked out.
	Remember, it's kind of a wives' tale.
	I don't know how true it is, but they say when you're getting an IV, if there's a big air bubble, oh no, look out, you're going to end up with an embolism.
	It could be an air bubble.
	It could be just something.
	Other than blood, that is...
	Could be whatever that fibrous stuff is that we're seeing that you're pulling out of people's bodies.
	Right. Amyloid.
	And now, check this out.
	An embolism...
	Sorry, that's the one I just had.
	No, hold on.
	Let me get that.
	That was the wrong one.
	Stop screen.
	I just wanted to do...
	COVID and...
	What is an embolism here?
	COVID embolisms.
	There has been an increase in observational reports of venous thromboembolic events in patients who are positive for COVID-19, especially for the setting of elevated inflammatory markers.
	The possibility of COVID-19 as an independent risk factor for AP should be further The bottom line, and it's what I remember thinking when I'm watching the movie, is attribute the cause to whatever you want.
	You can't deny the on-the-ground, first-hand observations of people who have been doing this for decades.
	That's where you go for the information.
	That's not what you disregard as...
	You know, misinformation or conspiracy theory and whether or not people disagree as to what the cause of your observation is.
	Your observation can only be denied by anybody who has not had your life experience and your professional experience.
	Right. Where do you...
	So you're sort of like a contractor for nursing homes and you do...
	Funeral homes.
	Funeral homes.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry. But yeah, that's the first step.
	Do you know where the bodies are coming from?
	They're local, right?
	Are you in Mississippi?
	I'm in Alabama.
	Alabama, sorry.
	So it's local.
	You're not doing this out of state?
	You know, every once in a while, we might get a body that's shipped in.
	Because I'm down here at the southeast Alabama, which is near the panhandle of Florida and Georgia.
	So we're pretty close to the state lines, not that far.
	So there are times we might get a body that...
	Dies from Florida that, you know, is transported up to the funeral home and we embalm those.
	Graceville, we get a lot of them from Graceville and some of these surrounding border towns.
	So yeah, I get them from this typical area.
	Typical area.
	I'm picturing, we just watched Little Miss Sunshine recently where they were, you know, carrying the granddad's body in the back of the car and they couldn't leave it at the hospital while they...
	Have you never seen Little Miss Sunshine?
	I don't think so.
	Oh, Richard!
	It's an old one.
	I rewatched it.
	It's still as good now as it was when it was first made.
	It's with Greg Kinnear.
	I forget who the...
	Steve Carell back when he was...
	Well, he's still funny.
	It's a great movie.
	You should watch it.
	Little Sunshine.
	Little Miss Sunshine.
	Cremation. It'll be the last one.
	I can't keep here for too long.
	By the way, thank you.
	I can stay pretty much as long as you need me, I think.
	Cremation, when you cremate a body, is there any embalming process that goes on beforehand, or is it just burning the body as it is?
	Well, okay, so that is a thing.
	Right now, people ask me, like, you know, am I more busy now than I used to be?
	And the answer is, I'm slower now than I used to be, because the cremation rates are on the rise.
	Can a body be embalmed?
	When they're going to do a cremation?
	Absolutely. If the family chooses to have a service with a viewing and all that stuff, and then instead of have a burial, they have a cremation, that's fine.
	But a lot of times what people refer to as cremation is a direct cremation, and those bodies are not embalmed.
	And with the rise of cremation, which I believe is not because people are being mandated to cremate.
	By any means.
	I mean, that's not what's happening.
	What's happening is the economy has gone to crap.
	And people are being, for financial reasons, choosing cremation because it's about a third of the cost.
	So as those cremation rates rise, my work will go down.
	And it has a lot.
	Imagine if I were to embalm all of those bodies, what I would find in them.
	I only see what I see when I do the embalming.
	I do not go and purposely cut up bodies and look inside there to try to find these things.
	I would rather they not be there, to be honest.
	It's incredible.
	I don't have any more questions left.
	I've got everything I've been thinking of for the last while.
	Back to the conversation about blood supply.
	I think this is from Merchant Marine.
	I think there is a shortage of blood.
	I know that I get the text messages often.
	Prions disease affects your brain in weird ways.
	It may make you addicted to pimple popping videos, says Finboy.
	If I'm mentally unwell, I've been this way for a long time.
	Richard, this is amazing.
	We'll keep it.
	I mean, whatever I can do.
	I mean, I don't know what I can do to help and connection-wise, but we'll keep in touch because it's...
	Look, I believe that there's obviously something going on and whether or not it's a perfect trifecta of the jab, which I believe is not good.
	The COVID, which I believe...
	I believe COVID is a thing.
	I don't think it's...
	You can't say it was engineered in a lab in Wuhan and also it doesn't exist.
	Right. It was weaponized.
	I don't think it was as bad as...
	It was a bad flu season, but I do believe it was made in a lab.
	I believe people have not been going to the doctors.
	People might have done more drugs and alcohol during the last three years, all of which culminates in the perfect storm to cause problems.
	But anybody who says there's not a problem or anomalies is living with their head up their ass, and maybe because they're trying to convince themselves that they're not going to get sick from what they've done to themselves.
	Well, you know, amyloid, prion, it can affect the brain.
	Amyloid is typically associated with Alzheimer's.
	So it kind of makes sense that some people have kind of lost their minds, in a way.
	They're not thinking clearly.
	They're clouded.
	Dementia, they are predicting, while they say that none of this is happening, dementia is going to be the leading cause of death, if it's not already, but it's going to double between now and 2040.
	Let me pull up that stat.
	This dog.
	She's out now.
	What do they say about dementia?
	I don't know what percentage.
	Dementia? Population.
	They're saying that it's going to be off the charts.
	The number of people with dementia is expected to triple from 57 million in 2019 to 153 million by 2050.
	Now there's population growth, so maybe that's...
	But no, triple.
	Oh my god.
	It's anything but.
	It's long COVID.
	And maybe there is...
	I mean, I know there's an inflammatory response from COVID, but it's wild.
	Everything that...
	People are not connecting because they want to pretend that they're not connected.
	Well, I don't think they want liability.
	One of the people I sit there, you know, there's a lot of talk, you know, whether this is being done on purpose, whether this is that.
	And I can't honest.
	I think this is a spiritual war myself.
	I'm a pretty strong believer.
	I feel as though this is a spiritual war between good and evil.
	And some people are just so...
	They're so set on their ways, they can't be wrong no matter what.
	And they want to find anything to excuse this stuff that's happening in front of us.
	To get you saying, oh, it's global warming.
	Or, oh, well, we knew what dementia was going to be tripling in the next few years.
	Population growth.
	The population is doubling, so it should.
	People are drinking more alcohol.
	That causes dementia.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's like they're making excuses.
	And one of the reasons why they don't want to sit there and a lot of times tie it to the one thing that changed worldwide is the one thing that they pushed the injecting into so many people.
	They just don't want to acknowledge that because to acknowledge that means they potentially poison the world's population.
	I've said this before on other...
	Tweets, what happens when the world wakes up and realizes they've been potentially poisoned by their own governments?
	We're talking potentially chaos, which feeds into the Klaus Schwab's idea of the fourth industrial revolution, the Great Reset.
	How do you sit there and create this new wonderful world order?
	You've got to destroy the one you're in.
	And if we sit there and go into chaos, we destroy ourselves.
	The vaxxed against the unvaxxed, the left against the right, the gays against the straight.
	There's so much division going on that we become this mess of people.
	We've lost our ability to think, and we've lost our ability to do the greatest commandment of all, and that is to love God and treat your neighbor as you would yourself.
	There cannot be a better way to end it with a little bit of optimism.
	I'll bring this up just because we sort of answered it.
	Anomalies found in unvaccinated due to shedding.
	I don't think either of us are going to be capable of answering that, but I've had on...
	Shedding is a thing.
	I also learned that during this.
	It's a known thing.
	The only question is, does it apply now?
	We're learning more and more about that, and it's not looking good.
	I remember it was a conspiracy.
	But it's been a thing forever.
	Just go Google it.
	Look it up.
	Ask Grok.
	Because Grok doesn't lie.
	Richard? Amazing.
	We'll say our proper goodbyes afterwards.
	Thank you immensely.
	And this has been amazing.
	And we'll keep in touch.
	And if ever I drive back up.
	I drove to one of the debates.
	Where was it?
	It was in Alabama.
	Where was the third RNC debate?
	It's a beautiful college town.
	Was it Coleman?
	No. Auburn or Tuscaloosa?
	I want to say Tuscaloosa, but R&D Debate Alabama.
	I think it was the third.
	It was in the UA University.
	Where's the University of Alabama?
	It's up here probably.
	Is it Tuscaloosa?
	I drove through Birmingham to get there.
	I drove down from here.
	You drove right by my house, man.
	If it happens again, I'll ring you up.
	But Richard, thank you immensely.
	Thank you for coming on, but thank you for doing what you're doing because I've met a number of people who I can't blame them, but chose not to do what you're doing.
	Amazing stuff.
	Okay, so I'm going to end this, everybody.
	I will see you all tomorrow.
	Oh, Richard, I'll put your links up.
	Where can people find you?
	Well, the easiest place is on x at r underscore Hirschman.
	My stuff's not monetized.
	I purposely stay away from any monetization.
	I don't want anybody to think I'm about money.
	I'm not selling anything.
	And I am on Facebook, but I hardly use it because of the censorship over there.
	I just kind of don't give them my time.
	Okay, I'll put your link up there.
	By the way, they won't treat you any better because you're not monetizing.
	Then they'll just say you're...
	It's the same slurs for everybody who reveals a reality that people don't yet want to acknowledge.
	Oh yeah.
	I'm not a grifter, but I've been accused of many things and that's just one of them.
	Have you been accused of being Mossad yet?
	Mossad? Yeah.
	The look of surprise.
	It's like, wow.
	No, it's amazing.
	Richard, thank you.
	Everybody in the chat.
	I'll be live tomorrow at some point, so stay tuned.
	Richard, thank you.
	Stick around.
	We'll say our proper goodbyes.
	Everyone, peace out and find this on Podbean because I'll post the podcast in audio form so everybody can appreciate it.
	Snip, clip, share away at your leisure, peeps.

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