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Oct. 4, 2024 - Viva & Barnes

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Live with Dexter Taylor from Prison! Tina Peters Sentenced to 9 YEARS! And More! Viva Frei Live

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	Double! Four vivas!
	Alright, that was a Simpsons joke.
	I'll just check out for the intro here.
	Enjoy. That's the wrong way to do it.
	I'm supposed to bring up the video.
	Eh, here we go.
	Enjoy this while people trickle in.
	This is your intro video and I wanted to remind people of what's going on.
	Alright, party peoples of the interwebs, whether you love Donald Trump or you hate him, he does good in times of need and he is yet again doing good in a time of need.
	For the victims of Hurricane Helen who, if they didn't already know this, You cannot rely on the federal government for anything.
	They are terrible, corrupt.
	They will squander your last taxpayer dollar to fund foreign proxy wars or for illegal aliens, such that when the time comes that there's a disaster and you need immediate and massive help, they say, sorry, we're almost out of budget for the remainder of the hurricane season.
	We won't get into that.
	Donald Trump sets up a fundraiser and has raised over $2 million for the victims of Hurricane Helen, and it's amazing.
	The only problem is he's used GoFundMe.
	I will not give one penny to GoFundMe.
	I call them GoF me because that's what people should do with that company.
	And that's what they do with their patrons.
	It's a politicized, corrupt, horrible organization.
	No one should ever use it.
	And the problem is I want to help.
	I want to find a place to donate to.
	And I refuse to use GoFundMe.
	So anyone in Trump's orbit, tell him to never use GoF me again.
	There's only one organization that you should be using and it's Give, Send, Go.
	This is not a paid ad or anything whatsoever.
	I know Jacob Wells, the CEO of Give, Send, Go.
	I know the organization.
	It's the only organization that anybody should ever use for crowdfunding for this type of fundraising.
	So I texted Jacob and I asked him, look, I refuse to support anything on GoFundMe.
	Do you have any fundraisers for the victims of Hurricane Helen on Give, Send, Go?
	I don't need to start one myself, but I will if one doesn't exist.
	And he said, there is one.
	It's already up.
	It's trusted.
	It's ours.
	Go to it.
	I think it's called the 2024 Hurricane Relief Fund.
	If it's not, I'm going to put the link in the...
	That's what it's called.
	If you want to help with the victims of Hurricane Helen and you can't get up, I don't know what people can do to help other than make sure that their money is going to a good cause to help.
	The link is in the description below.
	I'll put it wherever I put this video.
	And I've given, I've put my money where my mouth is.
	I can't do anything more.
	I don't know what else I can do here other than raise awareness for the utter corrupt incompetence of the federal government.
	And people are realizing disaster hits, you're on your own.
	I mean, disaster hits, they will come and claim your land before they're going to help you with it.
	So, I don't want to support GoFundMe at all.
	Go F me.
	And Trump needs to know, never use GoFundMe again.
	Give, send, go, and give, send, go only.
	Link is in the description.
	If you want to help, that's where you can do it.
	If you don't have money to help, because times are tough and everybody knows that.
	Share the link of the give, send, go so that other people can know.
	Make this the one to go to.
	And don't give, go F me.
	One dollar from your pocket.
	They don't deserve it.
	They've proven that they don't deserve it.
	Give, send, go.
	That's it.
	You know what to do.
	I'm going to go for a jog now.
	Peace out.
	Booyah. Now, in case anybody...
	We're not going to get into what GoFMe did.
	This is the link to the Give, Send, Go 2024 Hurricane Relief Fund.
	I'm proud to say that when I made that video yesterday, my donation brought it to like $15,000 and change, I believe.
	And so now we're at...
	I have nothing to do with this charity.
	This fundraiser, other than the fact that I asked the CEO, Jacob Wells, you have one?
	He says it was created by Give, Send, Go charities.
	The funds will be received by Give, Send, Go charities.
	They're going to figure out how to divvy it up among there.
	And it goes to the sources.
	And it goes to the people who need it right now, which are lots.
	So go.
	I'm going to share the link with everyone.
	Go and give.
	And you can pray if you can't give.
	And you can share if you can't give either.
	But hold on.
	Hold on.
	GoFundMe. Does everyone remember what they did?
	I forgot.
	I didn't want to mention it in that video.
	Trucker protest.
	Everyone remember what GoFundMe did?
	The mother effers tried to steal the $10 million that was donated to the truckers after they unlawfully and abusively shut down the campaign because it was promoting violence.
	Bull crap.
	I said I would swear less.
	I'm going to swear less.
	I'll refresh all of your memories because I was there.
	Go F me.
	After the trucker protest, the Ottawa convoy in Canada, 2022, after they had raised $10 million, after they had already frozen the account at about $2 or $3 million to verify the legitimacy of the organization, they then went on to shut the charity down on the basis that it was promoting violence and lawlessness, whatever. We now know that the only reason they did that...
	It's because they had political intervention from, oh, the mayor of Ottawa, I forget his name.
	Doesn't matter.
	They're corrupt.
	Then they froze the campaign, and then they said, we're keeping the $10 million, and we're giving it to a charity of our choosing.
	Can you believe?
	They actually did this.
	People have forgotten this or never lived through it.
	They froze the campaign unlawfully and then said, we are unilaterally donating the $10 million raised, not to the entity for whom it was raised.
	But to a charity of our choice, GoFundMe, GoFundMe, the corrupt organization that will let you raise money for BLM, but not Kyle Rittenhouse for his own defense.
	Then after enough of the uproar, they said, all right, we're going to donate it to a charity that the convoy chooses to donate it to.
	Then everyone's like, well, we're going to file claims and contest the charges, and you're going to have a big mess on your hands, GoFundMe, GoFundMe if you don't get sued.
	And they said, okay, fine, we're going to donate, we're going to return it to everybody.
	And I originally donated what?
	I don't know, 50 bucks, 100 bucks?
	And after they refunded my money, I went to Give, Send, Go, and I donated 1,000 to that convoy.
	So nobody should ever use GoFundMe.
	GoF me is what you should be telling.
	Well, I don't say go F yourself is what you should be saying to go F me.
	Thank you.
	Have I been very hot on the mic?
	Sorry, I just got distracted.
	That did come out as loud.
	Face, blue, smiley.
	I don't know what that's about.
	But the bottom line.
	Give, send, go's got the charity.
	I'll give everybody the link so that you can all go and give to the link.
	Here, link.
	Ba-da-bing, ba-da-boom.
	And Thane underscore Slottis says, Viva, Viva Frye, you are a gosh darn hero, my brother.
	More time, more power good, sir.
	The greatest compliment I was given was actually at the Ottawa protest, the trucker protest.
	One of the military men said, Viva, you're a force multiplier.
	And I'm like, yeah, thank you.
	He's like, you have no idea what that means, do you?
	He's like, nope.
	I've never been in the military.
	And he said, a force multiplier.
	I could figure out roughly what it meant.
	You know, can create exponential results.
	And I found that to be a fantastically flattering compliment.
	I found it to be complimenting at the time.
	And I was going to drive up.
	I was going to drive up when they had the hurricane in Florida.
	And, you know, it hit the Gulf Coast on the west side.
	I was going to go up there.
	And they're like, Viva, don't go up there.
	It's not exactly safe.
	You know, when people are going around with guns, it's probably not a good situation to walk into.
	I was going to drive up.
	I'm tempted to drive up to North Carolina.
	I've got a beautiful four-wheel Bronco.
	I can drive on terrain that cars can't.
	I could be useful.
	But it's obviously not feasible.
	So what else can I do?
	I can be a force multiplier down here.
	I forgot what the hell I was going to say.
	It doesn't matter.
	You got the link.
	Let me give it the link in YouTube.
	The government is terrible.
	We all know it.
	The government is just outright terrible.
	But before we get into any of that, people, you may have noticed as we...
	The Give, Send, Go was not a sponsor.
	Even though they have sponsored previous shows, I...
	Interviewed Jacob Wells.
	He's an amazing human being.
	He's created an amazing company.
	And Give, Send, Go is the only crowdfunding that anybody should ever use.
	Period. Full stop.
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	All right, people.
	Deep breath.
	Let me make sure my phone is on.
	You know, Johnny Cash used to sing at the Folsom Blues at...
	Where did he sing them at?
	Fulton Prison?
	And the other one there.
	It starts with a Q. In California.
	I was just there.
	No, I wasn't there.
	I was in California.
	Whatever. We are having Dexter Taylor, who's going to call us from prison.
	Because he's serving currently a 10-year prison sentence for having built his own ghost guns.
	And I'm putting that in quotes and it's a bullshit misnomer because it's all traceable.
	It all had serial number parts components.
	It was all legally ordered online, delivered to his own apartment in Commie, New York.
	He was raided, I think, by the...
	I want to say it would not be the DEA.
	It would have been the ATF.
	He was raided by the ATF.
	He was tried for having possessed unlawful firearms in the state of New York, where apparently, according to Judge Darke, who was the judge of that case, the Second Amendment doesn't exist, convicted and sentenced to a decade in prison.
	A man with no prior criminal record, much like Tina Peters, law-abiding, respectable, tax-paying citizen, much like Tina Peters, the state said, no, your Second Amendment right doesn't really exist here in New York, and they arrested him, raided him, charged him, tried him. Convicted him and sentenced him to a decade in prison.
	We talk frequently.
	He calls me.
	He's allowed doing interviews.
	Actually, I don't want to spoil his surprise.
	I'll let him explain it.
	But he's going to be calling shortly.
	So I got my phone on.
	When he calls, the prison system, it takes like a good two and a half to three minutes to go through all of the paying for the phone call type things.
	So I'll do that while I play a video for you.
	But that's what's happening first.
	Then we're going to talk about Tina Peters.
	Who herself, gold star mom, 69-year-old wonderful woman, no criminal record, convicted of charges that nobody understands.
	And you're going to tell me a jury of her peers understood these charges.
	Horse crap.
	We're going to talk about that absolute outrage of an injustice because she was convicted and then sentenced by, what's the Karen version of a man?
	A Chad?
	No, a Chad's not the right one.
	A Kyle?
	Yeah, Kyle might be good because there's a couple of Kyles.
	Left-wing Kyles.
	But there's a couple of right-wing Kyles on Twitter.
	We'll get there in a second.
	She was sentenced to nine years for a non-violent, absolutely ridiculous series of charges because the judge, in all of his infinite wisdom, decided to give her multiple three-year sentences and run them consecutively and not concurrently.
	Okay, so as I wait for the call from Dexter...
	Let me read this.
	Good afternoon, Viva and the Rumble Chat.
	Don't get to catch you live often and usually watch the replay.
	The Quartering gave you a shout-out today in regards to people looking for Helene Charities.
	Awesome. Thank you.
	That is Jeremy of The Quartering.
	Oftentimes we conflict in terms of scheduling, but the wonderful thing is I know that people watch these streams not live but on replay.
	It's fantastic.
	Pasha Moyer from our wonderful VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com community.
	On the Jimmy Lee Rec Center shooting topic, I contacted the Ramsey County Sheriff's Department to be sure that they have their own incident report.
	They do.
	It's case number yada, yada, yada.
	Since I am not directly related to the case, I need to make a data request to the sheriff's office via email, and then we can go from there.
	Sounds like a runaround.
	Here's the email address, and I'm going to screen grab that myself.
	That's in our Locals community.
	So as we wait for Dexter to call, I actually got...
	If you're following us in the Locals community, and it's not behind a paywall.
	This is for all members.
	You just need a register.
	There's some stuff that's behind the paywall for the supporters, but the vast majority is for everybody in that community.
	I got the St. Paul Police Department incident report of the shooting that was allegedly witnessed by Tampon Tim.
	No balls, AWOL walls.
	I've got to remember his nickname.
	That it was witnessed by his son.
	Because I wanted to see if there was a witness report.
	Surely we would see the son's statement in a witness report.
	I got it.
	I mean, if you could believe it, they sent it to me within 24 hours, basically.
	36 hours.
	And it's an amazing thing.
	I had actually never seen a police report in that detail.
	And it's got basically what they call narratives from each and every officer who had anything to do with that day who...
	Arrived, investigated, interrogated witnesses.
	And so it's a massive document.
	It's like a hundred and...
	What is it, guys?
	Like a hundred and...
	I don't remember.
	It's a long document.
	And I went through it.
	I didn't see any witness statement that resembled one that would have been given by...
	Not a witness statement, but rather a narrative describing interrogations of a witness that would have resembled what Gus Waltz, Tim Waltz's son, would have seen.
	The thing is, though, that all minor...
	All information on minors is redacted.
	So you wouldn't even see.
	You don't see the names because Tim Wall's son at the time would have been 15 or 16. And so his info would be redacted on any of the incident report narrative descriptions.
	But I didn't see anything that sounds like it was a witness statement from Gus Wall's.
	But it's not really a determinate issue.
	I think it's just further confirmation of Tim Wall's stealing valor.
	For sympathy purposes to push anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment policy.
	So if you're in our community, you would have seen that by now.
	And what else?
	Let me just make sure.
	So I probably should have actually made sure that we're live across the interwebs here.
	We're live on YouTube.
	The link to Rumble, is it in the pinned comment?
	If it's not, it should be.
	And for those of you who don't know, you can snip, clip, and share away.
	The link to Rumble is in the pinned comment.
	Good. We're live on Rumble, obviously.
	We're live on vivabarneslaw.locals.com, obviously.
	And that's it.
	Oh, and then Gypsy Muse in our local screen says, Pasha is thanking Pasha Moyer.
	Thank you for doing this groundwork.
	I was shocked that they actually provided the report to me so quickly by email.
	First, they DM'd me in Twitter the same night as my public tweet.
	And then they sent me the report basically the next day after I had filed the report.
	And I start thinking, you know, like, are they doing this because they don't like Tim Walls?
	Because they want to show that he's lying about his son's...
	Proximity to the shooting?
	Or do they like Tim Walls and they wanted to get it to me ASAP so that I could show the report, showing that Tim is telling the truth prior to the election?
	Who the hell knows?
	All that I know is that our locals community is reaping the benefits of that community.
	Okay, while we wait for Dexter to call...
	I do the work.
	I drive myself crazy so that you don't have to.
	Dementia Joe there gave a press conference this afternoon.
	I guess just, you know, he gives a 10-minute press conference to show that he's still alive and can string together sentences.
	But only barely.
	I'm going to put together the montage of him slurring his words and saying nothing, like just falling off into the sunset.
	Like the sentence trails off into senility, dementia.
	Not that there's anything wrong with that.
	We all get old if we're lucky.
	But we ain't all president of these United States of America as our deterioration is laid bare for the world to see for every one of our enemies and friends to exploit us to the greatest extent possible.
	Joe Biden was asked a question about where is Kamala Harris in this?
	There's been a lot of crises this week.
	Hurricane, war in the Middle East.
	What was the other one?
	The port strike that they averted?
	Nice political resolution to that in time.
	He's asked this question.
	Listen to his answer.
	Because my insightful observation on it, if I may characterize it as that, is that he's throwing Kamala Harris under the bus.
	If you think that he's not mad about being stabbed in the back and forced out of this race by that...
	If she's not stabbing you in the back, she's doing something else.
	If you think that he's not angry at her, we'll disagree.
	Nobody can prove intent here, but I think he's angry.
	And I think this serves as evidence that he's throwing her under the bus in the most passive-aggressive manner possible.
	Enjoy. There have obviously been a number of crises that the country has been facing over the past several days with the hurricane, the port strike, with the situation in the Middle East.
	Can you talk about how your vice president, who is running for the presidency, has worked on these crises and what role she has played over the past several days?
	Well, I'm in constant contact with her.
	She's aware we're all singing from the same song sheet.
	Singing from the same song sheet, right down.
	She helped pass all the laws that are being employed now.
	She helped pass all the laws.
	Major player.
	Major player.
	In everything we've done.
	In everything we've done.
	Including passage of legislation which we were told we could never pass.
	And so she's been, and her staff is interlocked with mine.
	Interlocked. In terms of all the things we're doing.
	There have obviously been a number of crises that the country has been facing.
	You tell me if you think I'm exaggerating or if I'm going crazy or if I'm connecting dots that don't connect.
	He's basically saying we are interconnected.
	What movie was that from?
	Oh, yeah.
	We're sharing a moment.
	Was that Chasing Amy?
	Oh, God.
	That's a terrible movie.
	I think it's a terrible movie.
	I don't remember things anymore.
	I was Chasing Amy, right?
	We shared a moment.
	Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, we're intertwined.
	Whatever my administration did, she helped draft the legislation.
	She helped pass that legislation.
	She's been integral.
	We're singing from the same song sheet.
	So when that biatch gets out on stage and tries to dissociate herself from my campaign, I ain't going to let her.
	You're going to throw me, Joe Biden, under the bus?
	And say, I'm not responsible for what he did when he was president because I wasn't president.
	I was merely vice president.
	Hey, Kamala, you're in that bus with me.
	And now you're going under that bus with me, Kamala.
	Oh. I think that he's trying to throw under the bus.
	But I might be connecting dots that don't connect.
	I see we have someone who thinks that...
	I'm curious.
	Hold on, people.
	All right.
	I have to see this.
	I have to see this.
	Hold on.
	There's someone in our Rumble community, not that it doesn't exist in the YouTube community, who is connecting the Jewish dots as relates to what's going on in North Carolina.
	You can go over the chat there and see what's going on.
	Jews are the problem.
	And then we get into Kamala's husband.
	See, this is where, even if you were to...
	Oh, you see, Judy, this is where you actually go one step too far, where even if people are going to say, yes, we can play that game and I can appreciate the statistical over-representation in certain areas.
	Alejandro Mayorkas is Jewish.
	Merrick Garland is Jewish.
	A lot of people you might not have known.
	I can see that.
	But then when you get into like, okay, Kamala Harris's husband is Jewish?
	Yeah. What the hell has he had to do with any form of policy anywhere on any point?
	Okay. Interrupted.
	I can show you the number because it's from the prison.
	Let me take this call, people.
	Give me a second, and I'm going to play a video for you while I do it.
	Hold on, listen.
	Okay, that's public knowledge.
	Let me just take it off just in case, and I'm going to play a video for you to watch.
	just take it off.
	Okay, sorry guys.
	Hold on a second.
	That's not the right video.
	I'm gonna pay for the call.
	Hold on.
	Press 1.
	2.8.
	Cost 2.8 cents per minute.
	Plus a one-time transaction fee.
	For the amount of time you have to close, if you do not want to connect this call with a refunded account in future calls, You might just have to...
	I'll play this.
	No, not that.
	You can set up an account at securistex.net or by downloading the Securist mobile app on your smartphone.
	Okay, hold on.
	I can't find a video to...
	Let's see.
	show i have a card on file This is how long it takes every time just to connect.
	You know what?
	I'm just going to play the give, send, go again.
	They are terrible, corrupt.
	They will squander your last taxpayer dollar to fund foreign proxy wars or for illegal aliens, such that when the time comes that there's a disaster and you need immediate and massive help, they say, sorry, we're almost out of budget for the remainder of the hurricane season.
	We won't get into that.
	Donald Trump sets up a fundraiser and has raised...
	Subject to recording and monitoring?
	To continue, press one.
	Oh, people were almost there.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, Dexter.
	Dexter, sir?
	Yes, sir.
	You are on speakerphone?
	I'm trying to pull up...
	I had a webpage that I was going to pull up with your face on it so that people could know who we were talking to.
	Hold on a second.
	If I go like this...
	Dexter, first of all, so say hi to the world, and how is everything going?
	Oh, well, this is an interesting thing for a computer guy.
	Everything is good, or as well as can be expected.
	Yeah, happy to be talking to you again.
	Yeah, and let's see, the most A recent kind of interesting event has been my talk with CBS News a few days ago.
	This was on...
	What was that day?
	It was Wednesday, October 2nd.
	That's the day.
	Okay. Okay, so I'm just looking at the chat.
	They say, how good can it...
	Okay, I've turned up the mic as much as I can, people, so that's it.
	All right.
	Dexter, okay, now hold on.
	I'm going to hang on.
	I'm going to get the mic as close to my mouth as I can.
	I've already kept in here so I can put in my buttonhole with my shirt.
	All right.
	And that's...
	I feel like I'm pulling a Kamala Harris here.
	I have you on speakerphone, which means that the audio is going to be coming out of the bottom.
	Like, it's coming out of here.
	Okay, good.
	This is as good as it's going to get, people.
	Dexter, for anybody who...
	I mean, I gave the brief heads up, and you've been on the channel.
	We did an interview the week of your trial.
	Just remind everybody what you were charged with, how it went down.
	Was it the ATF that raided you?
	No, ATF.
	It was not the ATF that raided me, although ATF was on the scene and were a couple of people.
	We're in ATF windbreakers, but it was mostly NYPD because this was a New York State affair.
	I didn't catch any federal charges that APF looked around and left the scene.
	They apparently found nothing worth their time.
	So this is a New York State case, a state case, not a federal case.
	And I was charged with a number of charges, most of which, as I recall, were felony weapons possession.
	So, you know, possessing a firearm in my home.
	Felony weapons possession.
	These were of firearms that you constructed in your apartment based on kits that you were ordering lawfully online and having delivered to your apartment.
	That's correct.
	It's a kit for the order under my own name, no substitute, no concealment on my call on one credit card to make it easier for me to manage my books and what have you.
	There were kits that I ordered the parts separately, but yes, the 80% receivers, as they're commonly called, that's the part that has everyone's attention, as far as the anti-gun people, the anti-Second Amendment people, really, running New York.
	But yes, that's the thing.
	I constructed five or six blocks to house pixels and a whole And eight AR-style rifles, seven of which were AR-15s, one of which was an AR-10.
	And so, yeah, that was why I got rated, that's why I got locked up, and that's why I'm sitting here right now.
	And I think I'm glad you mentioned the trial, because there's a few things I've been thinking about with respect to the trial.
	We can get to those whenever you like.
	Oh, no.
	Let's do it now.
	First of all, you get charged on state charges.
	Yes, sir.
	You go for trial before a jury of your peers.
	We'll put that in quotes.
	In quotes, yeah.
	That should be in quotes, yes.
	And at some point during the trial, the judge, Darke, who I don't call her an activist, I looked into her family history a little bit.
	It might be more of the same in terms of Judge Chutkin and other judges, Judge Marchand, but had a clear agenda.
	She literally did say, don't bring in your Second Amendment arguments into this court.
	the Second Amendment doesn't exist in the States.
	Second Amendment has to be clear here.
	It was very interesting because of course she was born and she was switched in at the last moment.
	We'd originally been All my appearances have been before one judge.
	And then I think we got another judge named, I can't remember her name, Heidi Cesare, I think her name was.
	At the very last minute, this judge, New Jersey Abinidake, was switched in.
	I found out later that she is married to the Brooklyn DA's top fundraiser.
	Let me just say, just in case people didn't hear that, married to one of the Brooklyn DA's top fundraisers.
	Right. During the trial, what I thought was interesting was the whole conduct of the affair.
	At the beginning of the trial, of course, both lawyers make...
	Opening statement seems that the prosecution makes an opening statement and the defense makes an opening statement.
	This judge interrupted my lawyer's opening statement maybe five or six times.
	And when I say interrupted, I don't just mean say, hey, you know, a pause.
	You know, you can't say that here or whatever.
	I mean, stop everything.
	Let's all go into the back.
	So, you know, not even a sidebar.
	like everyone followed her into a back room, closed the door.
	And then a couple minutes later, everyone would emerge from the back room and people would take their positions again.
	She'd go back on the bench again and we'd continue with no kind of admonition or no, you know, we'd talk this because you said this, that you shouldn't say nothing like that.
	It's just like, stop.
	Okay, start again, right?
	And that happened five or six times.
	During the opening, during my lawyers opening stage, And then, of course, during the travel was really...
	Amusing to me was that I'd never heard a judge make an objection.
	Do you know what I'm saying?
	Like, I'm used to the idea of, at trial, if the defense says something or asks something to which the prosecution objects, then the prosecutor will say, objection.
	And vice versa, the prosecution says something defensively, the defense will say, objection.
	But in this trial...
	I mean, in addition to the regular objections were made by the side, this judge raised what seemed to me at all a lot of objections herself when my guy was questioning one of the witnesses against me.
	So, you know, one example was we had done a lot of background research, me and my legal team, about the broken and very obviously corrupt permitting system.
	and one of the One of the police witnesses was an officer who worked in the permitting department.
	I can't remember his name.
	And this guy's very presence and his demeanor and the whole, like everything about him kind of pointed up the fact that this permitting system is broken.
	He didn't seem to know anything.
	He didn't seem to know his job.
	He didn't seem to be very competent.
	But he was just kind of, how can I put this?
	He just had a bad attitude.
	At one point, when my lawyer was questioning him, he turned around and said, well, that question is irrelevant.
	I was like, what?
	Hang on a second.
	Let me ask the question.
	That's not your lookout to decide whether my question is irrelevant.
	But what was noticeable was when, or notable, I should say, when my lawyer asked, well, what's your job at the NYPD?
	And he says, well, I own the records at the permit.
	And my lawyer says, okay, you know, how many people apply for permits in 2024?
	I don't know.
	Thank you.
	What? What do you mean?
	Well, why don't you know?
	Objection from the judge now.
	Hang on a second.
	This is your job.
	You own records.
	We're trying to figure out, you know, we have certain claims about the nature of the permitting system in New York and what have you.
	And you don't know how many people applied for permits.
	How about last year?
	I don't know.
	Why don't you know?
	Objection. From the judge.
	It's wild because the bottom line is, in New York State, if you want to own a firearm, you've got to register it with the state.
	Right, right.
	And not only that, not only that, each time...
	Each time you buy, like, you have to have a, you have to ask the state's permission, this is very important, you have to ask the state's permission to exercise your Second Amendment rights, even quietly, privately, at home.
	But carrying a weapon in the street is a separate matter, because, of course, none of my weapons ever left my house, ever even so much as cost the threshold of my house.
	It's a separate matter.
	But even just to have one in your house, you have to ask the state's permission.
	Then, for each firearm you purchase, you have to go back and ask their permission again.
	May I buy this new firearm?
	And then, you know, they give you a thumbs up, a thumbs up, and then you're authorized to exercise the Second Amendment rights.
	And of course, you know, I don't expect everyone to be a Second Amendment advocate like I am, but the fact is, if you believe at all in the right to keep their arms, then it's very obvious that at that point, it's not a right anymore.
	It's a privilege.
	If you have to ask...
	The state's permission to exercise a right is not a right anymore.
	You've taken it from you and handed you is a privilege, which can be snatched back at any time.
	And the example I always give when people say, well, you know, it's just a registration, it's just a paperwork, it's just this, it's just that.
	What if you had to ask the state's permission to practice your religious creed?
	What if to be a lawful Jew in the state of New York, you had to ask the states to say, well, here's my background, here's my social media information, here are my passwords, this, that, so on.
	Here's some letters from my neighbors that say, okay, yes, you're allowed to profess the religion of Abraham, right?
	Or what if you had to ask New York State or New York City if you were allowed to declare for Christ?
	He's like, well, we'll see.
	We'll get back to you on that.
	Look for a letter in the mail from us.
	The irony is, though, when it comes to the medical exemptions for the COVID shot, they were doing that sort of analysis as to people's sincerely held religious beliefs.
	You've got to run everything by the state, and they become the ultimate adjudicators of who gets to exercise their so-called constitutional rights.
	That's right.
	I think one of the only reasons The only reason a state like New York can get away with this is because of the kind of, what I think of as the degraded and debased way that we think about liberty and that we think about this right, this civil right in particular.
	You know, even when I was interviewed, I was being interviewed by CBS News, who's a very nice gentleman named Maurice Dubois who interviewed me.
	I had to kind of pound on that point for a little bit.
	I don't know if we'll make it through the editing suite, but when I talked about the right to keep in bear arms as a civil right, he had an instinctive aversion to that.
	He was like, well, no, that's totally different.
	Well, no, it's not, actually.
	No, no, no.
	No. It's actually not, right?
	And it's just funny to me that people who say they're a civil right, people who, quote, you know, Mm-hmm.
	back to civil rights, then would open the door to questions about why aren't you fighting for it?
	Why aren't you defending it?
	Why don't you care about it?
	You know?
	In the same sense, of course, and you've heard me say this before, you know, as a black guy, you know, and as a conservative, as a politically homeless conservative, you know, I like to hear some of these political hacks, you know, talk incessantly about, you know, murderous white supremacists who are out to get us and who are going to kill us and what have you.
	And I'm like, it's just odd to me now that not that long after the whole cities were shut down because the police...
	We have to defund the police.
	After all this, many of those same people are dead silent on the matter of the right to keeping their arms.
	Well, if a murderous white supremacist is out to kill me, don't you think I should be able to defend myself?
	And isn't it weeks off to say, well, no, just call the police.
	Oh, the same police you wanted to defund five seconds ago?
	The same police that...
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's a lot of ironies.
	And when I interviewed you, my issue in question was, I said, on the black and white letter of the law, you're dead to rights.
	And especially if you can't invoke the Second Amendment.
	And so I don't want to ask what you were relying on in order to be acquitted, maybe jury nullification.
	Bottom line, you get convicted, I guess, unanimously.
	And then Dark A sentences you to 10 years in a state prison.
	That's right.
	First time offense, no prior criminal record, tax paying citizen, upstanding citizen, engineer.
	You have a podcast, Carbon Mike Radio, and sentenced to 10 years.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, you really, it interesting. I mean, going back to the first thing, it turns out that it is illegal.
	New York State, New York State knows exactly how to rip the game.
	New York State has ripped the game.
	It's illegal to argue through notification.
	Like, if Matt Loner had tried to directly argue for a true notification, he would have been in danger of losing his life.
	I mean, in other words, you can't simply apply appeal when you're speaking to the jurors.
	You can't appeal to their sense of conscience, their sense of decency, their sense of justice, and, of course, you can't do that.
	You can't do that, right?
	So we knew, you know, I didn't go to this with my eyes closed.
	I, you know, my lawyer will tell you that I told him in one of our conversations before the trial began, I said, I give us maybe a little bit better than a corn toss, you know, in terms of my chance of being acquitted, but, you know.
	this whole enterprise, this whole thing of trying to get in New York.
	To obey the law of the land, to obey the Constitution, and to respect New Yorkers' civil rights.
	All of them.
	We knew, and especially I knew, that we weren't going to get there without suffering and without sacrifice, just as how it is.
	But, again, it was just funny to me to see the way it broke down.
	And, of course, the way the prosecution asked for 10 years, which is exactly what they wanted.
	They asked the maximum, you're getting the maximum.
	How long have you been in for so far?
	Oh, well, I mean, really, I went in the moment that verdict was issued, right?
	Because I made a violent felon.
	That is because having a farm in your house is, according to New York State, a violent felony.
	There was no question of me being on Alan Dale until the sentence was issued.
	So the moment the verdict came down, I went inside, right?
	And so that was, I think that was April of this year is when the trial was over and done.
	I know you don't like talking about it because you don't want sympathy and I appreciate that and I'm not asking the question for sympathy but you need to just give everybody the I mean,
	you know, it's, look, it's beyond, I appreciate the question, but it's beyond the scope of any one discussion to say what life is like at this facility.
	You know, you're inside a big machine whose job it is to waste time.
	You know, you're inside a giant government-run machine whose job it is to throw time away.
	So, that's what's going on.
	You know, like I said before, there are guys who are able to experience a lot worse than I have, more intensely and for longer than I have.
	So, I just, again, I just, for myself...
	I'm not going to dwell on the thousand little indignities of being a prisoner and, you know, got the corrections officers at.
	Some of them are very decent.
	Some of them are quite disrespectful.
	That's, you know, that's neither here nor there.
	It wouldn't make a difference as far as my moral outrage about this thing.
	It wouldn't make a difference if I were imprisoned in the marriott.
	You see what I'm saying?
	The complaint is that I'm here in the first place.
	Prison, under the most ideal of circumstances, is only going to get so good.
	It's prison.
	You're away from your family and everything.
	Tell everybody, because I know the story already, but you got an interview, or CBS News, not that any of us think much of them, came in and did an interview.
	Maurice Dubois, everybody can look him up.
	How did that come about, and what was the purpose from your surmising of what they were trying to get at by interviewing you, and how did it go?
	I took it.
	So, first question is first, how it came about.
	Well, apparently, I spoke to my lawyer at one point, and he put a producer on the line to speak to me.
	This was the producer of this same segment.
	Stephanie, Stephanie Cassell, I believe the name is.
	And, um, and apparently she had read the write-up about my case in the Gothamist magazine.
	And it struck her, it struck her funny, I guess.
	And she said, uh, she, she decided to, to, to go further.
	I contacted my lawyer, and one thing led to another, and they decided that they were going to send a new screw-up.
	So at the time I spoke to her, they had already made the decision to actually do a story, do a segment on it.
	And so the question was just kind of scheduling and details like that.
	Okay, so it had originally scheduled, I think, for the week, for last week, you know, last week or week before, but I think they were overtaken by events.
	There's a lot of interesting things happening, especially in New York.
	It was an interesting news week.
	It was a very hot news week.
	So they said they postponed it, but this week it actually happened.
	It was an unusual experience as far as my personal experiences go.
	We had the interview in Yeah, I was ready.
	I spent a lot of my time just getting ready for the kinds of questions.
	And more importantly, the kind of tone I assumed I was going to get from CBS News, because, of course, they are a mainstream media outlet.
	I was pleasantly surprised that the television interview was not hostile.
	I got a few of the questions that you would expect from people who come from a more or less pro gun control point of view, right?
	that it wasn't really hot stuff.
	We had a nice conversation.
	He asked me about my background, my educational career, so to speak, my background as a software engineer.
	and uh and uh and uh You're in for 10 years.
	I don't know at what point you get let out for good behavior, which won't be an issue, but you are obviously appealing this in the interim.
	I won't ask strategy, but what state of the appeal are you at?
	Oh, well, I mean, the appeal is pretty much paused because our fundraising is more or I've come to a, I wouldn't say a standstill, but very close to a standstill, which is understandable because, you know, when I, you know, I started to, I went public,
	you know, as you know, I've been doing conservative content online for quite a while now, as Bob and Mike, and even after I got raided, I kind of...
	And that, that's the question I got caught on sanitaire between my carbon-like identity and My real name.
	And at a certain point, in having discussed it with my attorney, I decided that it was time to go public.
	So from the time I went public, I got a lot of support and a lot of encouragement from pro-Second Amendment people, you know, a lot of my conservative friends online, people who've never heard of me online but heard about the case and were outraged.
	and so fundraising was moving along at a prisk pace because of that publicity and all the good people who interviewed me, the people who passed me a microphone, people like Sonny Johnson, Chris Cooper from National Association for Gun Rights, Dana Lash, you, armed Catholic, Rick Barrett, Alice Morrow, who
	I think either you introduced me or she introduced me to you.
	But all these people helped kind of fuel that public relations effort and the fundraising that went along with it.
	Once I went inside, the problem is that I was incommunicado for quite a period.
	Specifically, when I left Rikers to go into the state system.
	Because as you know, I did some talks, some interviews while I was in Rikers.
	You talked to me a couple times, I believe, while I was in Rikers.
	But once I moved from Rikers to the state system, everything shut down.
	I couldn't make any phone calls.
	I couldn't do anything.
	No one even knew exactly what I was doing.
	I was just, quote, unquote, in transit.
	And basically transit is a euphemism for just being in, you know, being moved from one kind of verminous cell to another, where you spend kind of 24 hours a day in the cell, and you just wait there to be transit in that facility.
	So I was in transit for a while, in what they call long-term reception at Elmira State Prison.
	Which is just like a processing hub for prisoners.
	Dexter. Dexter.
	Give me one second.
	I'm going to destroy a dog here.
	Hold on.
	I've got to let my dog go to the office.
	Hold on.
	Get out.
	Get out.
	She's starting to whine.
	Jeez Louise.
	Yeah. The last thing anybody wants to hear is my silly dog whining at the front door.
	Okay. Sorry.
	Sorry about that.
	So you get it.
	You lose connectivity and then I presume that has an impact.
	Lose connectivity.
	Yeah. Lose connectivity.
	No problem.
	I think I was on two phone calls the entire time, a month and a half or so.
	So now that I'm kind of, I'm aware I landed at my assigned facility, which is Cusackie And better yet, now that they're holding out this new system where we can use these Android tablets they've given us as phones, it means that I can call you from my cell, I can call you from my cell, and people can hear from me again.
	because even here, like we have horses and phones in the rec yard, but getting on the phones is a hippomist thing.
	And they limit the calls to 20 minutes.
	So now that things are kind of stabilized a little bit, now what we have to do is kind of wake our PR effort back up and start to reach out to people and start to get that going. because again, we weren't We've already, you know, me and my family, I mean, we're, you know, I made good money when I was working as a software engineer, but aside from that, you know, we're humble folks.
	So we already tapped out in terms of what we could pay for legal fees, but the process itself is just very expensive.
	It just is.
	I mean, you have to pay for your own transcripts.
	You don't just get the transcripts of your trial.
	And we had to pay thousands of dollars for this file, for this electronic file that the court generated while it was being tried.
	Of course, you can't do anything without the transcript, which is one small example.
	But yeah, they've made the process very expensive, and so we've just got to raise money, and then the appeals process can go on from where it's paused right now.
	It's still, if I'm going to share the link, it's still the give, send, go link, right?
	It's the old give, send, go.
	It says it's Taylor underscore second day.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	I just got the one minute warning, so let me terminate the call.
	I'm calling you right back.
	Okay. Sounds good.
	All right, people.
	While he does that, let me get something to keep us occupied.
	Ocupados. Well, let's see.
	I just got a DM from...
	Talking about political prisoners.
	Here, I'll entertain you with...
	Entertained in the most cynical way possible.
	A tweet from Jason Levine about the Coutts Four, the men in Canada who are what I consider to be Canada's political prisoners.
	Hold on, let me just bring this up so that when Dexter calls back...
	I hope the audio is as good as...
	I'm trying to think of a logistical way.
	He's got to call me on my phone.
	So it's got to come in that way.
	Hold on, Jason Levine here.
	Okay, people, enjoy this while I play this.
	What do you know about 3%ers?
	I don't know much about them.
	Okay. Now, why would somebody say that there was talk about 3%ers here among your group?
	I don't know.
	Maybe there is.
	But I'm not a part of it.
	You're not a part of it?
	They don't.
	No one's ever contacted me and made me.
	You know, I don't know how they find their numbers.
	Have you guys ever just kind of like...
	because I'm telling you that that came up.
	There's conversations about your group where in fact people were...
	I'll have to look through it.
	I just asked them to pull a few sheets here.
	These are transcripts from the wire.
	You can imagine how many pages that would be all here.
	I just asked to give me some stuff to talk to him about.
	But they're telling me there was stuff.
	That was said, and I'm not sure if it was on the wire or two in the presence of an undercover operator, where I don't know if it was you talking, but somebody's saying that, yeah, that guy's a three percenter.
	I feel like it was you, Usain, about Teddy Chris.
	This call is subject to recording and monitoring.
	To continue, press 1. To disconnect, press 2. You may start the conversation.
	Forever. Takes forever.
	Dexter. Hey, how's it going?
	Okay, we're back.
	Mike, how long does that take?
	It takes three minutes every time.
	Okay, sorry.
	That's government efficiency for me.
	That's how I go.
	So, yeah, that's...
	I think when we terminated, I was just talking about, you know, the kind of the...
	In the fundraising for appeal.
	You're fundraising, but it is currently under appeal.
	You obviously are appealing this because the alternative is a decade in prison.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I mean, absolutely.
	And...
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Sorry, there's a bit of a delay on the line.
	of things I wanted to highlight.
	You know, you asked me about the conditions in the prison.
	You know, and we've talked about this before.
	I just, maybe I'm just funny like that, but I just think it's in bad taste.
	For me, they complain on my own behalf.
	Again, when there's a lot more people going through things that would That would set a chill up your spine, you know?
	But I can say that, you know, this system we have, this system is broken, right?
	This correction, this so-called correction system is broken.
	It does not do what it says on the box.
	If it's a correction system, then it needs to at least make a gesture toward actually correcting things.
	And so it's no good to have people sitting in their cells all day or for most of the day when you've got the facilities.
	There is a welding shop here.
	There's a painting shop here.
	There's a computer lab here, but for one reason or another, there's a lot of people These are very often closed, and that's a problem.
	And when Maurice DuBois from CBS asked me about the conditions, I gave him much the same answer that I give you when you ask about the conditions.
	I said, look, this is a troubled facility and a big, broken system.
	And the fundamental problem here is that the voters of New York State, the taxpayers of New York State, want a prison system, but they don't really want to have to pay for it.
	And they don't even want to be reminded that it exists.
	That's the number one problem.
	And they don't want to be reminded that the people in here are, in fact, people.
	These men that I'm in prison with, my fellow prisoners, they are, in fact, people.
	They're sons.
	They're fathers.
	They are.
	They're human beings.
	They're Americans.
	And they've come here as punishment, not for punishment, not to be additionally punished by whatever officer sees fit.
	The fact that they are here is the punishment.
	And as with other things, people who put my content know that I'm big on the importance of...
	transformation before we start talking about political transformation.
	We've got to get right with certain ideas first with ourselves and with each other, with our neighbors, and then we can talk about the politics.
	And so that's what we have to get right with, is that, yes, people will do evil things, and the state, we have decided as a civilization that the state gets to punish them all well and good.
	But what does that punishment mean?
	What does our justice actually look like?
	And does our system do what it says on the box?
	Right? And if it doesn't, then we have to do something about it.
	Because as it is now, the system, this is not a system for society that wants to actually rehabilitate people and get them back to being productive citizens or get them into being productive citizens.
	So that's what I'll say.
	And there's a lot of work to be done.
	And there are people, again, there are people on the outside, right, who are more qualified than I am, who have been working on it.
	I was in the forum for a while, and there are people in here, there are prisoners in here, who are much more qualified than I am to talk about the problems.
	There are problems and they need to be addressed, and I'm hoping some investigative journalist or podcaster or influencer kind of takes up that banner and says, okay, well, what's going on?
	there and how can I shed some light on that because it was necessary.
	I mean, a very small example is I talked to Okay, well, like I said, when you're in transit, you're in these temporary lodgings, okay?
	The lodgings are usually filthy.
	Why? Because there's a lot of turnover when prisoners go through, prisoners on transit go through.
	You need an unenhanced maintenance regime to keep up with that.
	But there's not the money, there's not the funding to pay for more maintenance and more cleaning and more regular painting and what have you.
	To keep up with that.
	So, you just have this system where, you know, the cells are filthy.
	You go to long-term reception.
	There's a big bottle in terms of counselors.
	You have to see what is called a counselor, which is more like a quarterback, someone who coordinates things on behalf of the inmate.
	There's not enough of them in the system, right?
	So you've got guys waiting for one, two, three, four, five, six weeks just to talk to a counselor.
	And of course, you can't make a phone call unless you talk to a counselor first, you see?
	So now when someone is convicted of a crime, unless they want to appeal, their own legal It's not just me.
	Their own legal process comes to a standstill.
	They can't talk to their attorney.
	They can't talk to anybody, right, for an indeterminate period of time until they're processed, you know, through this thing.
	Like, come on.
	We can do better than that.
	You know, as a society, we can do better than that.
	It's amazing.
	Now, like I've spoken with, I don't want to say, under a half dozen, maybe about a half dozen people who've gone to jail.
	And after their experience, they all say the same thing.
	It's like, people don't appreciate how absolutely awful the treatment is, how non-corrective it is.
	And people rationalize it to themselves and say, well, they're guilty, they're murders, whatever, they don't deserve better.
	Until you find out that, on the one hand, innocent people are in there.
	And on the other hand, you have to have a certain amount of dignity and rehabilitation, even for the guilty ones, if the system's to work at all.
	Otherwise, it's just going to continue to be what it is.
	Well, that's correct.
	I just wanted to add to that.
	You know, it's funny because people, many, I think I've said to you in a prior conversation that I'm disappointed with many of my several conservatives who should be in the lead on this thing, right?
	It's, you know, why should we leave this very important function of the state to a bunch of progressives and materialists who ruined everything else that they put their hand on?
	Why should we do that?
	Why? You know?
	So, yes, you're quite right.
	And it's funny to me that people who call themselves small government conservatives, people who don't trust the government to do the right thing in other circumstances, when it comes to conviction and imprisonment, they automatically assume that the government has done everything correctly and will continue to do everything correctly.
	Well, why?
	You know, how come your skepticism about the ability of government to do things correctly is so selective?
	And, you know, people who've heard my content know that that's a horse I'm beating all the time.
	Well, what you opened my eyes to that I, you know, you see it in the movies and you never actually appreciate it, is the, call it mandatory labor, not mandatory, but optional labor.
	or slave labor in prison?
	They're actually using inmates.
	I had no idea this is actually true to work both for, you know, to produce items for other inmates, but also for private enterprise who use inmate labor and you guys get paid a penny, whatever, 13 pennies an hour or something?
	Well, I'll say I shrink back from calling it slave labor.
	Because to me that means the institution of chapel slavery.
	means a very specific thing.
	You know, I signed up, for example, yes, the pay is very low, but I signed up for the industry program, right?
	Because why?
	Because they didn't want to sit in the cell all day.
	Right? I could have sat in the cell all day, but I signed up for industry.
	And yes, the pay is very small.
	I mean, at max, you'll make close to a dollar an hour.
	If you get your completion bonus, you'll get a dollar an hour.
	One of the problems there is that you have this exclusive contract.
	You know, one company has an exclusive contract with New York State to make all the garments, for example.
	So they get to work with them.
	And of course, it's illegal if prisoners decide that they don't like work conditions or what have you.
	Not to be fair, our work conditions were, you know, this was a well-lit facility.
	was properly ventilated.
	But if we decide to protest, that's illegal.
	It's like prisoners organizing, whatever, it is illegal.
	You'll be punished for that, right?
	So, yeah, you know, you ask them, like, how would you fix the system?
	I wouldn't even know where to start.
	I have to really think about it.
	And again, I would...
	I think I'd prefer you to talk to people, other prisoners who are much more qualified to talk about what's wrong and how they might fix things if they had to go by it.
	But the fundamental thing is that you have to go back to what the right purpose of a thing is.
	And the right purpose of a rehabilitation system, of a correctional system, is to rehabilitate and correct.
	And if it's not doing that, then...
	I know that much.
	So, yeah.
	All right, man.
	And there was one other question.
	How can people reach you?
	People can mail stuff to you if they want to help you, support you, write you letters, keep you connected?
	Yeah, they can send letters to me, and several people already have.
	And I always love to receive.
	People can get letters and postcards.
	All the letters and postcards that I got when I was in Rikers were seized and destroyed when I entered the state system.
	But I've got some wonderful correspondence since I've been in the state system.
	And so people can do that.
	And the other thing people can do is they can sign up with Securus, S-E-C-U-R-U-S.
	I think the website is Securus.com.
	They can sign up for an account on there and that'll let them send me email and send email So it's called Securus.
	S-E-C-U-R-U-S.
	I see JPay, that's what I'm thinking.
	But what address?
	Yeah, so JPA.
	JPA was the original name of the system if you'd have a JPA account.
	But I think there was some kind of weird merger and acquisition thing behind the scenes.
	So now everything is secure.
	Okay. So, and so you said, what address?
	It is, hang on a second, I actually have it.
	And as you do that, I'm going to write it down as well.
	Yeah. Yes.
	Yes. Yes.
	He's still there.
	He's still there.
	Okay. Hold on, peeps.
	We're going to get the address in a few seconds here.
	Trying to pull up the website for Securus.
	I see Securus JPay.
	Dexter, did we lose you?
	He might have gone to get something.
	It's now easy to make a deposit to their account.
	Click here to make a deposit.
	Let's see here.
	What is this?
	getting a prompt.
	Okay, I'm going to wait a few seconds to see if we...
	We haven't lost Dexter, that's for sure.
	Okay, he's still on the line.
	Okay, give us a few seconds here, people, and I'll get the address.
	And after this, we're going to talk about Tina Peters.
	So don't worry about that.
	Unless we lost Dexter.
	Dexter? Give him one more minute, and then if I've lost him, I'll get his address and share it with everybody afterwards.
	Where is Dexter incarcerated?
	asks Ollie Loving in the Coxsackie Correctional Facility.
	I... Never stop laughing when I say it.
	It's called Coxsackie.
	Coxsackie. Coxsackie virus.
	Correctional facility.
	Coxsackie correctional facility is where Dexter is.
	Let me show you all the link there.
	Coxsackie correctional facility.
	The caller has hung up.
	Alright, well...
	When I get the address, I'll give it to everybody.
	I'm going to put this back on, and we might have run out of our allotted time.
	People, I hope you heard well enough.
	And that's Dexter in prison.
	No Second Amendment in New York State, people.
	Get the hell out of New York State.
	Oh, lordy.
	Okay, and I'll hear back from you in a bit.
	I don't know what happened, but...
	Okay, that was good.
	This is going to take another...
	Hold on.
	While I do that, let me just do this.
	Hold on, people.
	I'll give you a video to watch for the good three minutes it takes to do this this time.
	And thank you for bearing with me, but these are the logistical realities of talking to someone in jail.
	Behold the judge in Tina Peters' case right now.
	Here we go.
	You have no qualms with violating the court's orders because you're innocent.
	Because you didn't do anything wrong.
	You were just doing your job.
	You have no problem trying to kick an officer.
	Your explanation about what happened is preposterous.
	It's on video.
	You have no problem lying to officers.
	It's happened multiple times.
	They're recorded conversations.
	It's just more lies.
	No objective person believes them.
	No, at the end of the day, you cared about the jets, the podcasts, and the people finding over you.
	You abdicated your position as a servant to the Constitution, and you chose you over all else.
	Yes, you are a charlatan, and you cannot help but lie as easy it is for you to breathe.
	This is a judge over the people.
	And this is what makes Ms. Peter such a danger to our community.
	It's the position she held that has provided her the pulpit from which she can preach these lies.
	The undermining of our democratic process.
	The undermining of the belief and confidence in our election systems.
	It's not about questioning it.
	No one says you can't question, you can't ask.
	It's completely different.
	Bring in Dexter back.
	Hold on, people.
	Am I on speakerphone?
	Okay, Dexter, sorry.
	How you doing?
	Hey, can you hear me?
	Yeah, I got you.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, it was weird.
	I just dropped out of the call.
	I can hear you talking for a bit, but I know you couldn't hear me.
	But yeah, did you get the whole address?
	No, I didn't hear anything, actually.
	Okay, so Coxsackie Correctional Facility, that's P.O.Lot.
	P.O. Box 999.
	Coxsackie, New York.
	C-O-X-C-A-C-K-I-E, New York.
	Okay. No, no, no.
	C-O-X-S-A-C-K-I-E.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Okay, fine.
	Got that.
	Yep. Yeah.
	And then the visa code is 1-2-0-5-1.
	All right.
	Dash 0-9-9-9.
	There's 0999.
	666, upside down, twice in one address.
	Okay. I don't like it.
	I don't like it.
	I knew we were going to pick up on that.
	I knew.
	Okay, so that's P.O. Box 9999, Coxsackie, New York, 12051-0999.
	And then they put to the attention of Dexter Taylor.
	Well, yeah, and they have my prisoner ID number.
	That's very important.
	Okay, prisoner ID number, which is what?
	Yeah, which is my ID number, D-I-N, is 24.
	Yep. Bravo.
	That's B. Letter B. Yep.
	24 Bravo 2275.
	2275. Okay.
	Prisoner identification number.
	Is it a VIN or a PIN?
	Neither. It's Delta ADN.
	November. Okay.
	Hold on a second.
	Delta. Okay.
	Okay. It's called a VIN number.
	D-I-N is Delta in November.
	Okay, fine.
	D-I-N.
	All right, now I'm hitting...
	I'm going to go screen grab for myself, and I'm going to hit send for everybody else.
	So P.O. Box 999, Coxsackie, New York, 12051, 12051-0999.
	D-I-N is 24, be like Bravo, 2275.
	Yes, sir.
	All right, I'm going to share that both in Rumble, so expect some letters.
	What can people not send you by way of mail?
	I won't make jokes.
	That's a good question.
	It depends.
	Because the way this person is highly arbitrary.
	Like, it may be down to what mood the person in the package room is in that day.
	I mean, that's how bad it is.
	I don't know.
	You know, you can definitely, here's the thing.
	One thing you can't send is anything from a private address.
	You have to send it to, I mean, you can send mail, of course, but other, like, you know, books and things like that.
	You have to go to a registered distributor.
	So Amazon works.
	I don't know what the website is, but it's a company that specializes in sending things to people who are incarcerated.
	And there are a couple other ones that serve New York State.
	But Target works, I believe.
	But no one can send any care packages from...
	Okay. Yeah,
	I imagine it's, I would imagine.
	I would just imagine it's sort of like they think people can slip stuff in between the leather and the book or whatever.
	Well, I mean, you know, you're trying to rationalize a system that is fundamentally irrational, right?
	But I'm glad you said that because that was, I mentioned a bit of that to Maurice DuBois When I was talking to him, I pointed out that, you know, this idea, you get these, when you're a Second Amendment ethic, you get these kind of objections of, well, someone could do something bad.
	And I just, you know, what if someone robbed your house and took your gun, and then they'd do something bad in the street?

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