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July 20, 2024 - Viva & Barnes

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The Trump "Bullet Shot" Controversy! Live with Veteran, Combat Photographer Michael Yon - Viva Frei

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	The world's going wild, but he's standing tall.
	Together we can rise, never gonna fall.
	In the face of the storm, we find in the calm.
	Thanking God above, holding tight to his palms.
	It was a rally night, crowd gathering tight.
	In Butler, PA, under the campaign light.
	Shots rang out, caught him by surprise.
	Felt a burn on his ears, saw the fear in the eyes.
	Dropped to his knees, see his service on guard.
	Blood on his face, but he couldn't discard.
	The will to fight, to stand and unite, for peace and love under God's own light.
	Yo, the world's going wild, but he's standing tall, together with your eyes, never gonna fall.
	In the face of the storm, we find in the call, thanking God above, holding tight to his paw.
	One soul was lost, two more hurting the fray, but his heart kept beating, couldn't turn away.
	Sniper stood the shooter, quick on the scene, in just 26 seconds, restore the serene.
	He bumped his face, said fight, fight, fight, united, we stand in the darkest night.
	Thankful for the brave, who shielded the harm, God's hand upon us, we stay in calm.
	Yo, the world's going wild, but he's standing tall, together with your eyes, never gonna fall.
	In the face of the storm, we find in the call, thanking God above, holding tight to his paw.
	This is an event that should have never happened.
	Who is most responsible for this happening?
	What I would say is that the Secret Service is responsible for the protection of the former president.
	So the buck stops with you?
	The buck stops with me.
	I am the director of the Secret Service.
	It was unacceptable and it's something that shouldn't happen again.
	The darkest nights to the brightest days.
	In unity and love, we'll find our ways.
	God bless us all.
	Every woman, every man.
	Together we'll thrive in this beautiful land.
	Music
	Hold on just one second, people.
	Bring this out.
	That was by none other than our man in cryptis within the locals community.
	Now I'm noticing something here with my mic.
	Give me one second.
	There you go.
	I have to take a light out.
	How is it going, people?
	I've set up the temporary home studio.
	We might not be using the good mic today.
	There seems to be something of a mechanical error.
	I've been packing it and unpacking it too much, but it was working before.
	Regardless, we'll get started today.
	Drove back from Milwaukee, everybody.
	And it was a long drive.
	Miami, give or take, Miami to Montreal.
	Montreal to Milwaukee.
	Milwaukee back to Montreal.
	And we've got to go back to Florida sooner than later for the RNC convention.
	And you've seen what was happening there.
	It was an amazing, earth-shattering event that started, unfortunately, with almost a virtual assassination of a president in real time on live television.
	Turn it up.
	Hold on a second here.
	Reading the chat, making sure we are good across all the interwebs of the platforms.
	But something's driving me crazy here.
	It is.
	Now, the intro song, by the way, which is the most important thing, comes from a member of our community known as Encryptus.
	Here we go.
	See, there's a cable loose.
	Now we're on the good microphone.
	The intro song is an AI-generated song that was generated by the member of our Locals community, or the supporter in our Locals community, who goes by the name of Encryptus.
	And he sends me the audio, and I'm like, this is amazing.
	It's like, I don't know how it works, because I don't know what goes into creating an AI-generated song.
	And I think, from what Encryptus told me afterwards, a lot more than what I thought goes into it.
	And I'm listening to this, and I'm like, holy cows, this sounds like Linkin Park.
	That sounds like Linkin Park!
	And so I say, this needs visuals.
	So last night, I get a little obsessed.
	I start, like...
	Digging up all sorts of photographs, some videos.
	And I say, I'm going to make a music video to this amazing audio.
	And I do it.
	And then I woke up this morning.
	I said, I got to fix up a little thing, do a little version 2.0 and put it on blast on the interwebs.
	So that's on Twitter.
	And I'm going to share it with everybody.
	Share it around.
	Encrypt this in our community.
	It's amazing.
	He's going to explain to me what goes into generating an AI generated song like that, because apparently you've got to go style, lyrics, all sorts of things.
	But it's amazing.
	And it's going to see the eyes of many, and who knows?
	Maybe it'll make its way up to the campaign, and that will be something of a theme song for what we all hope to be a smashing, decisive, unifying Trump 2024 presidency.
	All right.
	As I'm in Milwaukee...
	Doing my best to keep up with the news, meeting all sorts of people.
	I met Tucker Carlson, saw Dan Bongino again, saw Don Trump Jr. again.
	I saw Dean Cain live but didn't get to meet him in person.
	Keeping up, trying to keep up with all the news, the developments in the attempted assassination on Donald Trump.
	And there was some hoopla on the internet.
	Conspiracy theories galore.
	Some that are plausible, some that are not plausible.
	Noise, what I believe is noise, intended to confuse.
	Out there to confuse the narrative, to promote false narratives, to put out conspiracy theories, mis-disinformation, however you want to call it, that discredits the people who subscribe to it and retweet it.
	Michael Yan caused something of a controversy.
	For those of you who don't know who he is, I sort of now know who he is, did a bit of boning up, and we're going to bring him up very soon.
	Put out a thread which was highlighting that iconic...
	I mean, the iconic photo is Trump with his fist in the air.
	Blood dripping from his ear.
	Fight, fight, fight.
	But another image that is, I was going to use an expression, an analogy that I'm going to not use, but that was flabbergasting.
	That was one in a million of shots was the picture of Trump with what appears to be the quizzing of a bullet behind him.
	And Michael Yan said he's a combat photographer, not a wartime photographer, a combat photographer.
	We're going to get into it.
	He put out an interesting thread breaking it down.
	What settings was that?
	What was that camera at?
	Why would the photographer at a political rally have had those specific settings?
	And he created a thread that went quasi-viral that might be leading into other sort of conspiracy theories.
	Now, hold on a second.
	Accept this.
	And we're going to get Michael Yon on.
	And then in our community at vivabarneslaw.locals.com, people were saying, you know.
	Get them on.
	And let's make it happen.
	And they made it happen.
	Within 24 hours, we're making this happen.
	Before we get started, though, I have to thank the sponsors of this show because there are sponsors.
	Michael, if you're in the backdrop, you might pop up while I bring up the sponsor because we're in Rumble Studio and I don't know if it's going to bring up only this, but get ready.
	You might be popped up here in a second.
	Let me see.
	Are you here?
	Yeah, you're here.
	Okay. Well, say hi to the world, Michael.
	You're a little early.
	Let me...
	Hold on.
	I'm going to...
	I'll kick you out one more time of film on the stream just so that you won't be on screen while this happens.
	Here, I'm going to kick you one more time.
	Come back in five minutes.
	Sorry. I think there seems to be no ability to have only one screen up while sharing screens.
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	Okay, so let's get started now, shall we?
	Michael, if you're watching, you can come back in.
	I'm going to bring you back up.
	Michael Yon, I see a picture from our Locals community, which you don't see unless you're in our Locals community, from one of our more prolific supporters, Bill Brown.
	I can't say what it is.
	I can say what it is, but I'm not going to.
	You might have to go to...
	VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com So we got Michael Yon who's coming on today.
	Michael Yon, veteran, American, and was a combat photographer.
	Now, prolific, well-known, award-winning combat photographer.
	A war veteran as well.
	We're going to get into all of this when he comes back on.
	And we're going to talk about more than just the failed assassination attempt on Trump.
	We're going to talk about, because I've been listening to his podcast now.
	The Darien Gap.
	What's happening to America?
	What he, with his experience, is noticing and what he can do or what he's doing to show it to the world and explain it away.
	We're going to get into his thread about the photographer's settings at a political rally, the explanation or the information that that photographer gave as to how he captured that shot.
	We're going to show it.
	So on and so forth.
	It's going to be amazing.
	Let me just make sure Neurotic, go back to all the other platforms we're good on.
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	Viva, as a photographer myself, I agree.
	Never under any conditions would I use that shutter speed for a relatively non-moving subject.
	We're going to get into a net chest.
	Photography is one of the things that I know more about than most people probably know.
	Viva, there is or must be a lot of video audio.
	If these all compiled the source of the bullet, sources can be triangulated to the meter.
	Absolutely. There's no question about that.
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	Live well and free.
	That is from Jamie Converse.
	So I am a bit of a photography nut.
	I don't do it much anymore because there's not enough time.
	It's too bulky.
	I've got a Nikon D800 with basically virtually every lens under the sun and good lenses.
	I've got the fisheye.
	I want to say it's a 16mm fisheye.
	It's a 2.8 focal.
	That is the lowest, most open aperture that you can get on it.
	2.8 is basically like the quasi-professional level of photography.
	I've got...
	What else do I have after that?
	I've got the 14-24 super wide angle.
	It's the most beautiful lens on earth.
	I've got the 24...
	How does it go after that?
	24-70 VR zoom lens.
	I've got the macro lens, the super close-up.
	I think it's a 105.
	I've got it all, and I love photography.
	It's just that...
	The amount of times that I've left my camera bag somewhere, and it's been twice at least, if not more, and it's got my entire life in it, at some point it's just not worth it.
	You take your phone and that's it.
	So I know a bit of photography.
	We're going to get into it.
	I'll pull up the explanation as to that photographer.
	In fact, you know what?
	I'll do it while Michael is popping back in.
	I'll bring up the explanation of this photographer.
	He's been photographing presidents.
	Since I was not even born yet.
	Let me get his explanation for what's going on.
	I'm not sure if you guys appreciate that photograph.
	Here is his explanation as to what the settings were and why he was on them.
	People are asking a lot of questions because it doesn't make sense to some people.
	I hear Michael in the backdrop.
	Let me see if he's back in.
	All right, good.
	You're in, man.
	So here, Mike, before we even...
	You know what?
	I'll keep it in the backdrop for now.
	We're going to get into it when we get into it.
	Perfect. Look at that.
	303 on the nose.
	We're good to go.
	And then within 24 hours, we made it happen.
	For those who don't know who you are, we're going to start 30,000.
	Foot overview.
	I'm going to delve into your childhood as much as you feel comfortable talking about, and then we're going to get into the story.
	Who are you?
	Well, I'm an American war correspondent at this point, or combat correspondent.
	I haven't done actual combat in a while.
	My sister's watching.
	Hello, Susan.
	She always watches your program.
	She's going to be surprised when I just did that.
	Oh, she loves you.
	She's always sending me links and stuff.
	But I grew up in Winter Haven, Florida.
	I graduated from Winter Haven High School, Blue Devils, in 1982.
	It was a wonderful place to grow up.
	I grew up hunting gators and that sort of thing.
	Really hunting gators.
	Then I went off to the Army.
	There was a brief period of time when young people could try out for seals or green berets and that sort of thing.
	One of my friends, actually Scott Heldenston, We went to high school together and used to work out together.
	He became the youngest Navy SEAL in history and I became one of the youngest Green Berets.
	It was a very serious place where we grew up.
	Our coaches were really tough and they were great.
	And so when I went to the Army for basic training, I was like, this is like a joke compared to my coaches.
	You know what I mean?
	So I graduated at the top of my basic training class and that sort of thing.
	And then I went off to that was Fort Benning.
	I went through infantry training.
	Then I went up to Fort Bragg for special forces selection.
	And I graduated very high in that as well, actually at 19. And then I promptly went to jail.
	I got into a, somebody attacked me.
	He was a very violent man.
	And he attacked me.
	And he had attacked, I think, three other people that day.
	It's been a long time.
	Then he attacked me.
	And we had a very vigorous firefight, not firefight, this fight.
	Fist fight and he died.
	And so I ended up in jail and I was only 19. And so I needed a lawyer, obviously.
	And at that point was a sharp departure from when I went from trusting media to not trusting media.
	And so when I was in jail, a lawyer came, Daniel Long in Maryland, Ocean City, and he represented me pro bono.
	But I learned a great deal about the The legal system then, I learned a great deal about the journalist.
	And so I ended up reading everything Jerry Spence ever wrote, you know, that sort of thing, like a dozen books.
	And so over time, I became very interested.
	And I was always watching media after that point and became very interested in justice because I saw how quickly something that was a clear cut.
	This is what actually, I was the only one that was alive that really knew the whole story, but there was many, many witnesses.
	All were on my side, and even his brother were on my side, and yet the media kind of shifted it in a different direction.
	But in any case, I was freed, and I went back to Special Forces, and they welcomed me back in, and I stayed in for another four years.
	I'm going to have to explore that a little bit in a bit, but born and raised in Florida, what did your parents do, or what do they do?
	My mother died when I was seven from some mix-up with medicines in the hospital.
	And that's, you know, sensitized me to that since from now to today.
	That's why I will not give Trump a pass on the jabs, period.
	You know, I see.
	I wonder how many children out there have lost one of their parents or both.
	And so my mother died when I was seven.
	And anyway, I was largely raised by my grandparents.
	And my father for times.
	And actually, it was a very interesting childhood.
	It was a very idyllic childhood for the first seven years until my mother passed away.
	Then I had a rough time for six years or so, seven years.
	And then I had another sort of idyllic period.
	And then I went back off.
	Then I went to the army.
	And so I was kind of prepared for the army.
	Your mom dies from a, call it medical malpractice or whatever, at a hospital.
	You're seven years old, and is your dad around, or is your dad working?
	He was around, and he was very supportive and that sort of thing.
	And one of the things about my dad is, I remember one time, because I love to read, I love physics and chemistry and that sort of thing, I was kind of a...
	As I told Brett Weinstein the other day, I was as addicted to physics as Hunter Biden is to crack.
	And at one point, my father said, I'll buy you every book that you promised to read.
	And I was like, well, that was a mistake.
	I mean, I read.
	I got a stack of books on the table here.
	The light's on top.
	Reading is my...
	And I love photography.
	Reading and photography, I've always, like you...
	And I love bird photography.
	The first camera I got, actually, I was in the Army Language School out in California, and a hummingbird came to the window, and the windows were open because it was nice weather.
	And, you know, I'm sitting there learning German, and this hummingbird comes in and kind of looks in, buzzes, and took off.
	And I was like, I'm going to get a camera.
	So I got a Nikon FE2, and I started trying to photograph hummingbirds, and I didn't realize.
	In my photographic naivety, I didn't realize I picked the hardest subject in the world to start off with.
	In this film, I couldn't shoot thousands of shots getting better.
	But finally, I got better and better.
	And then I shot some of the most famous photos in the Iraq War and in the Afghan War, too, in both of those wars.
	Because I became better, let's say.
	Do you ever get told that you look like Hank from Breaking Bad?
	Yes. Okay.
	In many countries, actually.
	That's amazing.
	Ever since that movie has come out, people treat me with a lot more respect.
	No, but Michael, so we can't skip over one thing.
	So your mom passes away.
	You have a good, you know, it doesn't turn to abject tragedy after that, above and beyond the tragedy of losing your mother.
	It shapes who's a human.
	And your dad is around and you get into physics.
	But at the age of 19...
	You end up beating a man to death.
	Whether or not he deserved it and the fact that he did or that it's an initiated fight and he's the aggressor is one thing.
	But to physically kill a man with your bare hands, set aside the injustice of what happens afterwards.
	How does that affect you for life?
	Well, many ways, actually.
	You have these inflection points in your life, and that was one of them.
	He attacked me.
	It was...
	Very clear.
	Many people saw it, or I would have been in prison for years, and I only spent four days in jail.
	And, you know, when I was going through special forces selection, they were very clear.
	If you get in any trouble, like, you know, a fight somewhere or something like that, you're out.
	If you can't be trusted with yourself downtown, then you're out of this unit.
	You know, drinking and driving, anything like that, you're out instantly.
	There will be no more.
	Selection is an ongoing process.
	You can make it through here and get your Green Beret.
	And the minute you get into trouble like that, that you could have walked away from, have a nice day.
	Go to the 82nd Airborne or something because they won't want you in those sorts of units.
	And so I was highly cognizant of that.
	Plus, I didn't want to fight the guy who was bigger than me anyway.
	And I didn't want to fight him anyway.
	I just got out of selection.
	I just graduated.
	I was very thin, very strong.
	I mean, very strong.
	I was very fit.
	And I didn't look like it, though.
	I'm much bigger now.
	Back then, if I was wearing a shirt like this, you wouldn't be able to tell that underneath, I looked like Rambo.
	I mean, I was very, very fit.
	And I knew how to fight.
	When he finally went for me, I just tore him up.
	And when he hit the ground, I never touched him again.
	I just hit him a few times.
	And as soon as he went down, that was it.
	I never touched him.
	And there were witnesses all around.
	You know, I never kicked him, never touched him.
	And then it was a big chase.
	And I got away and heard my name on the radio and that sort of thing.
	And it was very, very serious.
	And finally, I turned myself in.
	And, you know, I was arrested and that sort of thing.
	Actually, the chief investigator, his name was Bokinski.
	And Bokinski actually gave me a quote from my first book called Danger Close because that case followed me around through my life.
	And people would say, oh, you murdered somebody in a bar, a bunch of drunks.
	I was like, first of all, I wasn't drunk.
	And secondly, I just graduated from selection.
	We were girl hunting.
	You know what I mean?
	I was 19. I was a testosterone missile, you know?
	And so we were talking to girls and that sort of thing.
	But anyway, this guy, he had a tattoo that said death before dishonor and that sort of thing.
	It was just a very violent guy.
	But that case kept following me.
	And so finally, I wrote a book called Danger Close, and I described everything that happened.
	And the chief detective, Bokinski, he actually gave me a blurb, a cover blurb for the book, because I asked him to read the draft manuscript.
	Is this accurate from your memory?
	Because my memory is obviously muddled by a lot of...
	Test, not testosterone, but adrenaline, you know, because that was a very serious moment.
	So I asked him to read it and pass it on any other law enforcement that was there that night.
	And he read it.
	He said he didn't really have any comment.
	He said it was very accurate.
	And he and I asked him if I could have a quote.
	And he said, yes.
	So I put it up.
	So, you know, he he he sort of signed off on it.
	You might say that it was accurate because you know how your memories get.
	You're a lawyer.
	I mean, something like that, your memories are going to be way off.
	But anyway, he said it was absolutely accurate.
	That was his quote.
	And of course, I went back to the scene.
	I got all the records that I could get, talked with anybody I could talk with.
	I went back as the same person I am now, which is an investigator.
	And I walked it again as much as I could remember it.
	And so I think my memories were more accurate than normal because I went back there and checked it out.
	But the bottom line is it affected my life in many ways.
	It's wild.
	One is, so I get back to Fort Bragg after spending four days in jail and went back to the company commander.
	I was like, you know, sir, I've had kind of a long weekend, you know, and he's like, we heard.
	And I said, well, what next?
	And he's like, well...
	Next thing you know, I'm helping the next Special Forces class through the same course that I just went through.
	Only this time, I'm helping.
	This is while I'm facing second-degree murder charges, right?
	And assault with intent to murder or something like that.
	I assume you hit him a few times, he falls back and falls back on his head, and it's that sort of injury that ended up killing him?
	I think, according to the autopsy, it was just the punches.
	And according to my attorney...
	I mean, I hit him quite hard.
	I threw four punches, three of them hit pretty hard, and one was a glance.
	But they were very, you know, he swung at me, or he started to come up to swing at me, and I just got the drop on him.
	I was faster than he was.
	And then it was it.
	It was over.
	And so, you know, then I almost, you know, got...
	Caught up with some other guys trying to get me, but I got away from them, jumped over the fence.
	It was like a movie.
	I only looked about 14. People used to joke with me in the Army, like, what are you wearing?
	Your father's uniform?
	That sort of thing.
	I literally looked about 14. I was very athletic, super strong, and pretty tough, actually.
	When I realized all these sirens and stuff, and I was like, man, I probably broke his jaw.
	That guy deserved it.
	I didn't realize he was really that badly hurt.
	And so I went into a store, and I was just wearing shorts and a t-shirt, right?
	And so I went into a store, and I bought a hat and a balloon.
	And I was like, I'm just going to...
	Look like I'm 14. And if I put a hat on and get a balloon, I'll look like...
	And I made a cover story really quickly to cover for my accent because I had a deeper Southern accent then than I do now.
	And I was like, wow, that's a lot of sirens and stuff.
	And I started to get nervous.
	I was like, man, I must have really hurt that guy.
	And this was Ocean City, Maryland.
	And I was like...
	I think there's only two bridges off this island.
	I was like, I can't get off it.
	So I got on a bus.
	Actually, I thought those thoughts after I got on the bus.
	I remember there was all these tourist buses.
	And you could just jump on them.
	You know, they're like courtesy buses.
	So I jumped on one of the buses so I could hear the radio.
	And I sat in the front seat.
	So I'm sitting there with my balloon and my hat in the front seat, you know.
	And listening to the radio and because he's talking on the bus radio and because I knew something serious was wrong at this point and it came over the radio with my name, 19 year old Green Beret.
	Or not 19. They're like a Green Beret.
	He's like six foot tall.
	I wasn't six foot.
	They're like describing me as like Rambo.
	The Rambo movie was out at that time and very popular.
	So I was like, and at 19, I was not naive.
	I was cognizant that that could be.
	I was like, oh man, that Rambo movie was out and all this stuff.
	Oh boy.
	So it comes on the radio.
	It goes, you know, wanted for suspected homicide.
	And my adrenaline just dumped again.
	And then the bus driver looked at me and he goes, sure hope I don't run into that guy tonight.
	And I was just like, yeah, me too.
	And I laughed.
	I was just like, is this like a movie?
	You know what I mean?
	I was just like, he goes, I sure hope I don't run into that guy tonight.
	And I was like, me too.
	I was like, I can't believe this.
	He's dead.
	And what am I going to do?
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know.
	Go to Mexico?
	I didn't do anything wrong.
	And so you're having all these thoughts go through your head very quickly, like go to the police station or go back to the scene.
	So I got off at the next stop and I found some dark place and I just sat down, man.
	I did Army 101.
	I was like, sit down and think.
	Whatever your next move is, make sure you sit down and think first.
	And so I sat down and I thought about it and I thought, man, I got to go to the police station.
	And so I walked back to the surf and suds, and I watched my friend's truck.
	His name's Steve Chalice.
	We're still good friends.
	We were off in Afghanistan together later.
	I just heard from him the other day.
	He's off in Africa now.
	But so we just got through selection together, and I was watching his truck, and there was police clearly watching it, but they were from the shadows as well.
	They were waiting to see if I went back to his truck, obviously.
	It didn't matter.
	There was police everywhere.
	They called everybody in because the Rambo movie was out and the guy was already dead and everybody knew it.
	I was like, man, they're really afraid of me.
	I was like, this is really dangerous.
	I could get capped here.
	I walked back down to the boardwalk by the Surf and Suds bar.
	And there's these police, and they're talking to my friend Steve, and Steve's like, you know, like, get out of here.
	And I was like, I know what happened.
	I'd already released the balloon and took my hat off.
	I wasn't even wearing a disguise.
	And nobody recognized me except for Steve, because I look like such a 14-year-old kid.
	And I'm right here.
	I'm this close to the policemen, right, that are questioning everybody.
	And I'm like, and I said, hello.
	And one of them's like, hey, you know.
	Hey, we're busy here.
	And I was like, well, you might want to talk with me.
	He's like, hey, you know, kind of like beat it or something.
	He was polite, but he was like, you know, you're kind of in the way, you know?
	I was like, this is so strange.
	I remember I hit his antenna with my finger.
	I was like, I think you might want to talk with me.
	And I checked.
	They both were right-handed.
	Their weapons are on their right side.
	And I was just like...
	I'll just go turn myself in.
	I don't know.
	You know, all these thoughts are going through your head.
	I am 19. And so I walked down to the beach and I just started walking.
	I was just like going to go turn myself into somebody else that would pay attention to me, I guess.
	And then I see the whole boardwalk, all these law enforcement.
	It was a lot, man.
	It was like a movie.
	And again, all this, the whole thing was just surreal.
	And so I'm like, well.
	They clearly know who I am.
	And so, because they clearly are trying to surreptitiously get a line and push me back to the sea.
	So I walked right into the middle of them, clearly with my hands out.
	And they walk up to me and they kind of do the...
	And one officer said, are you Michael Yon, Special Forces, Fort Bragg?
	And I said, yes, sir.
	He said, get on your knees.
	I said, yes, sir.
	And then they arrested me.
	They were very professional and polite.
	And they took me in and that sort of thing.
	And it just got weirder from there.
	And the next thing you know, so four days later, they released me on my own recognizance to the Army.
	So I go back to Fort Bragg.
	And that was when I saw the captain.
	And he's like, so then for the next six months, I got a huge lesson in media and a huge lesson in...
	People can find stories about it probably on newspapers.com.
	But I got a huge lesson in law.
	Like the prosecutor was an elected official.
	I was like, really?
	So Daniel Long, who ended up becoming a judge, I would call him.
	I would be putting quarters in the phone.
	There was no cell phones.
	And so I was at Fort Bragg at the Smokebomb Hill.
	But the bottom line is, and he told me, he goes, you know, if you were just a college student, You would have probably not even been charged.
	But it was the Green Beret and the Rambo movie thing.
	And he goes, now, you know, it's getting near Christmas.
	And he goes, you know, I think what's going to happen based on, you know, he knows everybody there, was that they were going to take it to the grand jury and that they were holding it back to near Christmas time.
	Because he thought if...
	The grand jury would probably just do their thing and say, you know, not to prosecute.
	And then when they, you know, announced that it would be Christmas time.
	And by the time everybody kind of got back to work, people would just kind of move on.
	I was like, is this how justice really works?
	And I thought it would be like...
	I grew up watching like Mayberry and all that stuff, you know, that everything, if you do right and you tell the truth, you know, everything will be cool and you're a good person.
	And I'm getting this lesson like, wow, I mean, so if I was just a university student, I just basically would have been like a very unfortunate event.
	But anyway, so the grand jury did do their thing and charges were dropped.
	And so then I go back to the commander.
	And he goes, and I said, well, sir, I mean, the charges have been dropped.
	And he goes, well, you know, you've done a good job here.
	You graduated near the top of your special forces class.
	And then, let me have a sip real quick.
	I'm fasting, so my mouth gets very dry.
	I'm on the 13th day now.
	And so, he goes, well, you can go to, I'll sign off on any school that you're qualified for.
	And since my, you know, what do they call it?
	The ASVAB test was high enough to, you know, this like mental test, math and all that stuff.
	It was high enough to do anything in the military, right?
	So I said, well, I want to go to, so in other words, he could sign off on any school that I wanted to go to.
	Just carte blanche, anything he can sign off, I'll take it.
	So I said, I'll go to ranger school, you know?
	He goes, no, no, I don't do that.
	You can go to Ranger school anytime you want.
	He said, talk with some of the other older SF guys and ask them what schools they recommend for you.
	And they all said, DLI, go to Defense Language Institute.
	So I said, okay, I'll go to DLI.
	And I wanted to go to Spanish because there was a war going on down in Central America.
	And, you know, at 19, I'm like, let's go.
	But, of course, I was like one of the youngest Green Berets.
	My chances of getting on an A-team were quite slim.
	I went to DLI, but I didn't end up in Spanish.
	I ended up in German.
	And I didn't go to Monterey.
	I went to an overflow campus in San Francisco, and that's where the hummingbird came up.
	And so at the window, that must have been my hummingbird that said, you shall become a photographer.
	Because when he came up, I'm like, I'm going to get a camera.
	And I started photography.
	But anyway, while I was at DLI, I started doing photography.
	And then, you know, I graduated from DLI, Defense Language Institute, German.
	Then I went up to Canada to Yellowknife, just on a vacation, saw the Northern Lights and went to Florida.
	And then I reported to my unit up in Massachusetts, which was the 10th Special Forces Group.
	Excellent group and excellent men.
	It was, I mean, studs, you know.
	But I was only like 20 at the time.
	The young people who made it through selection, which was very few, almost all of them failed.
	But of those who made it through, they weren't getting on A-teams because nobody wanted a 20-year-old, no matter how studly he was, on an A-team.
	This is like, you know, more adult stuff, you know?
	And so I show up to Massachusetts and, you know, Fort Devens, and I report in, and everybody knew my name because they knew what happened.
	So they actually put me right on the A-team, 0-5-2.
	And that was my A-team number, ODA052, which I saw again in Iraq, weirdly.
	And years later, none of the same team.
	But I showed up, and everybody already knew who I was.
	And because of that case, it spread around.
	Actually, that movie, Con Air, that came out much later, many people say that movie may have been based on my case.
	I don't know.
	But in any case, so I got on that A-team.
	I can say this now, but I couldn't say it then.
	It was top secret.
	But our mission was actually to parachute into Poland and to near the Belarus border near a place called Bialystok, which was top secret back then.
	So I trained for three years on two different A-teams, one when I was in Germany at Bad Toltz and another.
	Well, they're at Fort Devons to parachute into Poland and basically kill Soviets and do all sorts of things, right?
	And so I'm very familiar.
	Later, I ended up living after I was out of the army.
	I lived in Poland for a couple of years.
	Anyway, since that time, I've spent more than half of my life, I've spent overseas in about 100 countries, right?
	So even though I'm full-blown American, as you can see, pretty hardcore American, but I've spent most of my life overseas.
	In about 100 countries.
	I've been in about 98 now.
	So I spent six years in the Middle East, about 18 in Asia, or about five in the Middle East, about six in Europe, and just all over the place.
	So just down in the Darien Gap, Panama.
	I spent about six months there since Biden's been installed, that sort of thing.
	And I take people and show them things here and there.
	Well, we'll see if we get into the Darien Gap later on.
	But just so that...
	People will be able to assess your analysis based on your credentials or your experience.
	Which tours did you do?
	What does a Green Beret do?
	I know what the SEALs do.
	I know what they say the SEALs do.
	Green Berets are badass as far as I understand as well.
	Where did you serve?
	What were you doing while you were in service in terms of actual functionality?
	That's an interesting question and very interesting, especially because when I went into the military, I actually could have gone SEALs.
	I was that close to trying out for SEALs.
	And the reason I went to Special Forces instead was because I thought Special Forces had a more academic side.
	And I love sports and physical stuff and that sort of thing.
	But I love books, man.
	I'm kind of a bookworm, too.
	And so I was that close to going SEALs.
	I was like, intuitively, go Special Forces.
	I'm glad I did, actually.
	Very glad.
	But Scott Helvenston, we were on the same football team, Winter Haven High School, the Blue Devils, and Scott became the youngest Navy SEAL.
	And he was a super stud.
	We used to work out together and that sort of thing.
	And he ended up being on that TV series, Combat Games, or whatever it's called.
	I don't know.
	I didn't watch it.
	I was always overseas.
	But anyway, Scott was one of the contractors working for Blackwater, who was killed and hanged off the bridge in Fallujah.
	And that's one of the reasons I ended up in the war was because Scott, the former Navy SEAL, he did 11 years, he became the youngest Navy SEAL at 17. I've said that before, and people are like, that's absolutely impossible.
	It couldn't happen.
	I'm like, ceasefire.
	Take five minutes to research it online, and you'll see that it's true.
	Scott sailed through.
	I mean, I'm telling you, our coaches were extraordinarily tough.
	And a lot of people, like, there's Delta Force guys and Green Berets and SEALs.
	Are bound to fall out of my high school and it's like a little volcano of people like that, right?
	But in any case, what do Green Berets do?
	Now, they do a lot of things.
	They can do foreign internal defense.
	They can do what we were planning to do, which was direct action on my two teams.
	They can do all sorts of...
	There's many different missions that they can and do, like, you know, strategic reconnaissance.
	Actually, what we were going to do with strategic reconnaissance was follow on direct action and guerrilla warfare, right?
	And so guerrilla warfare and direct action together.
	But so they do different things.
	Many of the people that, you know, are in Delta Force today that are undoubtedly some will be watching this.
	Some of my friends there are probably watching.
	There are a lot of those came from Green Berets, right?
	Others came from Rangers and that sort of thing.
	But the bottom line is many things.
	And one of those is I went to language school for German.
	I went to another language school for Polish, right?
	And so we trained on my two A-teams for three years, like very hard training to parachute into Poland.
	We knew, I mean, I knew that place like the back of my hand, never having been there, right?
	And so, and then later after the Army, I lived there for two years in Poland.
	There was no, that was, you know.
	At that point, there was no U.S. troops in Poland.
	But in any case, we never did the mission.
	If we did, you would know about it.
	It would have been World War III, right?
	It would have been basically what's happening right now, but probably far more kinetic.
	And so then after the Army, I went to school.
	I worked for Michael Jackson for a while.
	Somebody offered me a job doing security for him.
	So I was out at Neverland.
	You know the reason I took that job?
	Another person I grew up with, Richard White, we were born in the hospital together three days apart, and we've been friends pretty much ever since.
	So Richard White, he teaches theology now.
	He's a full-blown Catholic.
	So Richard and I, best friends, he went to school, and he told me, he's like, when you get out of the Army, get a job as a security guard because you can do your homework and get paid.
	So get one of those jobs where you're...
	So, you know, anyway, I was out.
	So I went to school in Florida first and then out in California.
	And weirdly, when I showed up to class, to a calculus class, there was somebody from 10th Group that I had been in Germany with in my class.
	And my roommate was another 10th Group guy.
	We were all together.
	I was like, I can't believe this.
	Long story short, I got around that I had been doing those things, and somebody offered me a secret job.
	And I was like, listen, dude, I don't do bank jobs, okay?
	So all the secret job stuff, I don't know what you're getting to with this.
	This guy goes, no, no, no, no.
	It wasn't my old Army friend.
	It was somebody else that he knew.
	He said, no, no, it's something else, but I'll take you out and introduce you to some people and show you.
	So we drive out to Michael Jackson's Ranch at Neverland.
	I was like...
	Security. I was like, can I do my homework?
	He's like, yeah.
	I'm usually just sitting there at the thing watching the camera monitors.
	So there I was.
	I mean, doing my calculus, doing differential equations and linear algebra and all that stuff, matrices and all that.
	And I'm like, I can't believe I'm like the only Green Beret that liked Michael Jackson, too.
	I always liked Michael Jackson.
	I felt sorry for him because he was like a prisoner.
	You know what I mean?
	And he couldn't leave or anything without anybody stalking the guy or whatever.
	I felt very sorry for the guy.
	I sort of feel that way, you know, thinking about Joe Rogan or Elon Musk or all these guys, like you end up living in a prison of your success, which is difficult.
	But yes, right.
	Oh, I cut you off there.
	Oh, yeah.
	So I learned a lot of calculus.
	Neverland. And then, you know, he had that lion.
	One time I was out there alone and that lion roared, man, from that cage.
	I was like, man, my adrenaline went.
	I was like, man, I hope the veterinarian or lion tamer closed that.
	He had a baby chimpanzee and you had to check the temperature every hour of the enclosure to make sure it's okay.
	And I went in there and I felt bad for the thing because I was like, why is a baby?
	Or a young here alone, you know, so I would just sit with it like, hey, how you doing?
	I showed up my flashlight and taught how the light goes on and stuff.
	I think a lot of people are going to have a lot of red flags going off if you're working for security for Michael Jackson, who many consider to be what rhymes with potato file.
	Did you see, well, I don't even know if I should dare ask, did you see anything fishy while you were working security for Michael Jackson?
	No, I never talked with him.
	And for me, it was all surface.
	You know, I wasn't like hanging around with Michael Jackson or something.
	I never talked with him.
	And I just checked the giraffes.
	Yeah, these giant giraffes are beautiful.
	I mean, you go into the giraffe barn, you got to go up the steps and they got these giant eyes.
	Their eyes don't look like that big from down here because, you know, their heads in the clouds.
	But you could walk up the steps and it comes up to you.
	You're like.
	Man, this thing's got a big head.
	They kill you by whacking you with their head.
	When they get into their head-flapping wars, that's how the director of a movie, I forget what it was, was killed.
	He got hit with the head of the giraffe when it was swinging it aggressively.
	And their tongues, I want to say their tongues are two feet long, but I think they're actually longer than that.
	They were very friendly, but I was like, wow, this is like Jurassic Park.
	When were you security for Michael Jackson?
	That would have been about 1988, maybe?
	I forget how old.
	Don't take this the wrong way.
	I forget how old you are.
	You're 60 years old.
	Okay, man, because I'm looking at you like you're 45, 50. It's like, oh, maybe you're security.
	I'm trying to figure out when Michael Jackson died.
	So you're Michael Jackson security before doing combat photography.
	Oh, way before.
	If you would have told me I was going to become even a writer, I'd have been like, you're nuts.
	I'm going to become a physicist.
	You know what I mean?
	And actually, I was thinking maybe I'll go back to the Army and try out for Delta Force.
	Actually, I almost tried out before I left.
	And I was like, no, no, no.
	If I'm going to come back, if I'm going to stay in the Army, I'm going to be an officer.
	And so I have to go to school for that.
	So I went out and I'm going to school, working for Michael Jackson.
	And I'm thinking, you know.
	I love physics, and I'm watching these rockets all the time.
	I grew up in Florida watching the space shuttle, and I was there for Apollo 11 liftoff when I was five in 1969, July.
	Was that July 11th?
	I can't remember.
	And so I was out on my family boat, you know, and it was really cool, you know, and I always watched all the astronaut stuff, and I just love physics.
	In exploration, I would ride everywhere there was on my bicycle.
	You wouldn't believe it.
	Let me tell you, there's got to be some people from Winter Haven, Florida, watching this.
	Any road that you're on that's more than, say, I don't know, that was made before the 80s, I've been on every single one of those roads on my bicycle, or walking, or both.
	Every one.
	I've told that to people at Winter Haven.
	They're like, that's impossible.
	I'm like, you don't know Michael Young.
	I check every...
	Alley in that whole town.
	That's got to be hundreds of miles of road.
	You know what I mean?
	There is nothing more central Florida than Winter Haven.
	Holy crap.
	That's right.
	I grew up hunting gators there.
	You know, listen to this.
	I walked up to Mount Everest a couple times, and one time I was in this town called Pokhara in Nepal.
	And which is not near Mount Everest.
	It's on kind of the other side or far away from Mount Everest.
	But I walked up to base camp a couple of times.
	But one time I'm in Pokhara.
	I'm like, this place reminds me of Florida.
	I mean, except for those giant, you know, Annapurna Mountain Range there.
	You know, the Himalaya.
	You know, the huge snow.
	They don't need anything less than 20,000 feet.
	They call a hill.
	You know, I'm serious about that.
	So I spent a year in Nepal.
	But anyway, I was in Poker one time.
	I was like, this is like Florida, you know, even the smells and the birds.
	So I looked up the latitude.
	The latitude of the peak of Mount Everest goes right through Winter Haven.
	In fact, it'll be right at the Tampa International Airport International Terminal.
	If you look at the latitude, that would be the peak of Mount Everest right there.
	That's the same latitude.
	Anyway, random useless knowledge.
	Well, okay, so let's get into this because people are going to get antsy if we don't.
	We'll get into the Trump.
	I want to establish some credentials so people know that you're not just an internet theorizing guy.
	Anybody who doesn't know that you do award-winning combat journalism, which is going to be relevant for the assessment of the photography settings.
	But look, you have meaningful and extensive military experience.
	Where were you last Saturday?
	What were your original initial thoughts?
	And what are you thinking a week later with the information that has been leaked, disclosed, or disinformation that has been promulgated over the last week?
	What's your assessment of all of this?
	Well, I'm in Okinawa right now.
	And so, Japan.
	And so, last Saturday, I'm here fasting and studying, actually.
	I'm just taking like a month to...
	Every once in a while, you need to take a patrol halt and just study and fast and be quiet, right?
	And the next thing you know, shots fired.
	So I'm back to work.
	I'm still fasting, nope.
	And I saw those photos come out of that bullet trace, and I was like, you know, I was a Special Forces weapons specialist, right?
	And besides that, I grew up hunting and have been familiar with weapons ever since as well.
	So, I mean, you know, weapons, I have, you know, some knowledge of weapons and some knowledge of photography.
	I'm a professional photographer when I'm in the wars, right?
	And so I thought, wow, how do you get that bullet trace?
	And, I mean, I've never seen a bullet trace from this angle.
	That must have been a super fast shutter speed.
	And when I say trace, I don't mean tracer.
	That's not a tracer.
	A tracer is a, the bullet has an incendiary in the back and you see it, you know, when you're watching war movies.
	A lot of people watching this have fired a lot of tracers or have seen them.
	But those tracers burn and then you can see where you're shooting.
	But that's tracer.
	A bullet trace is when a bullet fires.
	A supersonic bullet like this, high-powered rifles all are supersonic.
	An M16, for instance, goes about Mach 3 at muzzle, roughly Mach 3. Let me stop you there because I've been getting differing information.
	How many feet per second is that bullet traveling?
	Some said 1,200 to 1,500 feet per second, but others said something much more like 2,500 feet per second.
	It depends on numerous things.
	Nobody knows unless we know, first of all, the rifle.
	We need to know the barrel length.
	We need to know the actual ammunition that was fired, not that it was 5.56 or.308 or something.
	We need to know the actual, which one, Hornady, whatever, because different rounds, even for the same caliber, have different velocities.
	In other words, a heavier grain bullet...
	67 grain versus 55 grain or something will have a different velocity.
	Newton's laws.
	If you have a heavier bullet with the same propellant behind it, it's going to be going slower.
	Those velocities can vary wildly depending on which ammunition was being used.
	Let's say an M16 with a 20-inch barrel, like a musket, with hot ammo.
	M16s aren't very powerful to begin with.
	But those trade on velocity, let's say.
	I think that would be more like 34, 3300 at muzzle.
	I'm not sure.
	Weapon specialists, please correct me, or anybody with a ballistic shark.
	But by the time it reaches that range, I think it was maybe 127 meters or so, or let's say 130 meters from the target.
	The instant that round...
	Leaves the barrel of the gun, the end of the gun.
	A lot of people think it then speeds up.
	It does not do that.
	It instantly leaves the barrel.
	It's slowing down, right?
	So it'll leave at the muzzle velocity, and then it will begin instantly slowing down.
	And so by the time it reaches the target, I don't know how fast it was going.
	I mean, for argument's sake, to be directionally accurate, let's say it was a high-powered rifle.
	Roughly, let's say, 2,500 feet per second.
	That's going to be in the ballpark if it was.308 or if it was anywhere within reasonable range.
	But I don't know, because there's a lot of spitballing going on.
	Who shot?
	I don't know.
	Where did the round really come from?
	And by the way, I pulled up.
	So Encryptus, good on you.
	And then whoever it was out of Rumble, good on you as well.
	Those were the figures that they were giving.
	Let's pull up the now...
	I don't call this iconic because this is not...
	Trump holding up his fist is iconic.
	This is just interesting.
	This is the photograph that went viral.
	The photographer, Doug Mills, gave an explanation as to what settings he was on.
	We'll get to that in a second.
	So, Michael, people are hypothesizing that the only reason it left whatever this trace is over here is after it struck Trump's ear or went through whatever portion of his ear.
	That's sort of like vaporizing water or whatever.
	Because the idea would be, would you capture that trace wherever that bullet was, if it was in frame, or only after it made contact with something that had the slightest bit of material on it?
	That's the question, actually.
	Is that only tracing there because it's gone through his ear, or would it be doing that regardless?
	Regardless. And because...
	All right.
	That is cavitation, right?
	So when...
	U.S. Army or British Army or British military, say Marines, it doesn't matter, but sniper teams.
	There'll be a team of two people generally, right?
	A spotter and a shooter, right?
	And so the spotter, he'll have a spotting scope, which is usually a monocular, right?
	So he'll be right beside the sniper.
	And to be clear, I've been with a lot of snipers this close in combat.
	Like, I have photos.
	This is the same camera he was using, by the way.
	It's the same one I use.
	Same one Brett Weinstein uses.
	That's a mirrorless camera, correct?
	Sony Alpha 1, yeah.
	Okay, so mirrorless.
	You can get a much more rapid frames per second.
	How many, if you just hold your finger down, are you getting in a second?
	It depends on which setting here, but the maximum you can get is 30 frames a second.
	If you push this button, I'll just get one.
	But if I push this one, because I programmed it, If I want to get 30 frames a second, I push this one and this one at the same time.
	It'll be 30 frames a second.
	And because there's no mirror, you're not hearing a...
	Nope. And I have it on silent mode anyway.
	So it'll just be...
	It's quiet.
	So you're basically shooting film, but each frame is a high-resolution image.
	Yeah, 50 megapixels, and these are nice megapixels.
	There's 50 megapixels, and then there's 50 of these megapixels.
	Not all megapixels are created equally, right?
	And so in the battle of megapixels, it matters which megapixels you're talking about.
	But this is the finest camera I've ever held, and I've shot with the best camera ever since I started doing warm photography.
	And the best cameras and the best lenses.
	If you see it in my hand, I either found it on the ground or...
	It's the best that money can buy, right?
	And that's what he was shooting with, was not this lens.
	He has a 24mm, which I have as well, but I don't have one with me because I didn't bring it on the strip.
	So you see this picture as it goes viral, and then you ask your questions.
	What settings on earth was he at to have captured this?
	I thought that when I saw that picture, I thought it might have been a still from a video.
	I mean, I guess it was in a sense, but I thought it was like hyper sharpened and that we're basically only seeing what we can see because of the way you can play with the photograph after you take a still or you take a screen grab.
	His settings, let me see if I can...
	Well, let me tell you about the trace first because it's important to understand a little bit of the physics there.
	Like our sniper team.
	So you got a sniper team and they got your spotter and your sniper side by side, right?
	Spotter. Sniper, I got my things reversed here because of the camera.
	So the spotter, he's got his little scope he's looking through, and when the sniper shoots, you can see because you're, you know, right behind the bullet, you'll see a quick trace.
	It's ephemeral.
	It's super quick.
	Like, you can see, like, and so if he missed, he'll say, you know, right one click or something.
	You know, he'll adjust him really quick.
	That second shot will probably be a hit.
	Usually the first shot will be a hit.
	But there's a lot of wind going on and things.
	He'll adjust for them, right?
	And that second shot's much more likely to get a hit if it's a super long range shot.
	But that sniper trace, looking through that serious, nice, all the snipers watching this and all the super shooters watching this, because there's a lot of serious rifle shooters, they know what I'm talking about, the bullet trace.
	It's real quick.
	It's obvious, but it's quick.
	That's why when I saw it from the side, I was like...
	That's interesting.
	I never saw one.
	Oh, it could be.
	I mean, because the cavitation is going to be there, but it's so quick.
	Stop. What's cavitation again?
	Cavitation is when that bullet's going through there, you know, at supersonic speeds.
	Let's say it's going 2,500 feet per second at that place.
	I mean, it leaves a slight cavitation behind it, right?
	And so there's condensation, real quick.
	So it just goes.
	So basically, the bullet goes back.
	And it goes by, it snaps by.
	If it's that close, I've had a lot of them that close to me.
	Not close enough to hit my ear, but close enough to make my ear ring, actually.
	If Trump got hit in the ear with that, his hearing right now should have a problem.
	Because I've had bullets go very close, and they make your ears ring.
	It's very funny.
	You should say funny in a sixth sense.
	You mentioned that, because as we're driving back from Milwaukee...
	My wife is reading me an article that Sanjay Gupta is putting out.
	Everybody's like, we're entitled to know his medical records and the extent of his injuries.
	And I said, the only thing that he was right about is that bullet, the pop, I said supersonic, but the hypersonic pop that it makes, it would have made for his ear.
	So some people are hypothesizing that he might very well be deaf in that ear or maybe still hearing ringing.
	I called up two of my Green Beret Army friends that are doctors.
	Both are medical doctors.
	I couldn't get one.
	Doc Chambers, if you're watching, I'm trying to get ahold of you, brother.
	And another is a Green Beret doctor named Bernie, let's say.
	And so I called Bernie up about 48 hours ago.
	I'm like, obviously, you saw what happened.
	And I said, because he, first we were Green Berets together in Germany, and then he was a medic.
	Then he went off and he became a trauma surgeon, and he was doing...
	All the trauma surgery for Special Forces and Delta Force and all that.
	And he spent a lot of time in combat as a surgeon, right?
	And since he was also Special Forces trained, he would go on missions and that sort of thing as well.
	And I asked, did you ever see somebody get popped in the ear, actually?
	There's a lot of ear wounds and that sort of thing, but like actual gunshot.
	And if you did, what happened to their hearing?
	Not that he would actually know because he's a trauma surgeon.
	He just makes sure they're alive and then send them up the...
	Send them up the pipeline.
	But in Bernie's opinion, he thought it probably wouldn't burst out his eardrum.
	And I'm like, I don't know, Bernie.
	I know you're the doctor and stuff, but I think it would burst his eardrum because I've had some bullets go very close and it made my ear ring for days.
	And so if one hit that close, I think you would need to be seeing the audiologist.
	And I'm not sure how that would not be an issue, actually.
	From that range.
	I'm sort of watching him on a second screen speaking, and I'm just trying to see if he's favoring, just trying to be a little bit too scientific, favoring the ear that was on the other side because maybe he's having difficulty hearing.
	Melania whispered to him in that ear.
	We saw Masako Ganaha, the famous Japanese journalist, she mentioned, because I told her about this, and she said, oh, she saw Melania whisper to him up on...
	The other day when he did that talk, that speech.
	So I don't know.
	But I mean, I think his hearing would be damaged.
	We'd have to talk with some military.
	You don't have to be military.
	But somebody with experience with gunshot wounds going, or gunshot wounds from acoustic issues.
	Okay. Now, so that's the, what do we call that thing?
	The smoke that we're seeing off the bullet?
	But it's very quick.
	I mean, it's very quick.
	I mean, the reason you can see it from the spotter position, which is right beside the sniper, you're like shoulder to shoulder.
	You're not two shoulders apart.
	You're right next to each other.
	So when he says, you know, they're talking in a low voice to each other, right?
	They're not like, hey, you know.
	He's right there, and he's right there because he can see as it comes out of the barrel, he sees that trace.
	But it's real quick.
	Keep in mind, though, he's watching it the entire flight line, right?
	He's watching it go from, say, zero meters to 500 meters.
	He's watching it, and still, it's a very quick trace.
	It doesn't linger.
	Even when you're watching it down this axis, it's like all the snipers, all the people that have looked through the scope can confirm it's very quick.
	That's why when I'm looking at that, I was like...
	Man, how'd he get that?
	That's a really lucky shot.
	What was his shutter speed?
	When you're shooting hummingbirds, it's like 1 15th hundredths of a second or something.
	You know what I mean?
	Let's hear this, Michael.
	We'll listen to his explanation, then we're going to dig into it because there's a lot in here.
	You were still running and positioning yourself to get more shots.
	What was the shutter speed on your camera of the photo, that key photo which captured the bullet?
	Because the speed of sound Is behind the speed of light, so there would have been a lag time there.
	And so you were just rolling and rolling.
	I was.
	Once I heard the pops, it appears and it surely feels like I held down on the shutter as hard as I could.
	And I was shooting a Sony A1 camera at an eight-thousandth of a second.
	My ISO was ISO 50. And I was at 1.6 on the aperture ring, so it was a super bright day, super hot, and I'm thrilled that the picture is what it is.
	Obviously, it's very sad to see that the former president was shot, and even more tragic that someone else lost their life, and there are two more people that are seriously injured, and my heart goes out to them.
	I'm going to leave that up in the backdrop, just in case we want to hear it again.
	I think I can probably field a little bit of the ISO is the sensitivity to light.
	And if you're in low light situations, you want a high ISO because if you're shooting at night, for example, I don't know if the ISO goes up to like 6,400.
	It might go up to higher than that.
	But I remember this from back in the days of actual physical film.
	You know, 200 to 800 ISO was for standard daylight.
	If you shoot at night, you wanted a very high ISO.
	The trade-off that you get with high ISO is graininess.
	This guy's at 1,800.
	Of a shutter speed at the ISO 50, which is very low, which is high light ISO, meaning that you need a lot of light to be shooting at a 50 ISO.
	So presumably you can get instantaneous one and one eight thousandth of a second action.
	Have it be sharp because it's so bright out, almost like you have a natural light.
	So the ISO being low, it won't be grainy.
	It'll be sharp and you can get a nice depth of field, I guess, or at least get...
	More in your depth of field?
	I mean, what do you think about those settings?
	Yeah, he's shooting with a 24mm, according to him.
	He held it up on one interview, and I have that lens.
	I'm quite familiar with it.
	It's a great lens.
	It's a prime lens, for those who know photography.
	I was looking for the ISO.
	He finally just said it.
	When he said it, I just wrote it down.
	I'm going to send it to Brett Weinstein, actually, because we were trying to figure out the ISO.
	I had to pick multiple interviews that the guy did to finally get to where I found the ISO, which is ISO 50. Yeah, 50. That was key.
	So he had the F1.6 is what he had the F-stop at, which means he's going to have a relatively...
	Very narrow depth of field, which I can understand that because he might want to get the crowd out of it and that sort of thing.
	I don't mean to interrupt you, but just so people understand, a narrow depth of field means you have a very thin plane of what's in focus.
	Behind it, it's blurred.
	It gives you a nice effect.
	Whereas when you go to cinematic on your iPhone, it does it digitally.
	It blurs the background and sharpens the edges of what's in front of you.
	So a very narrow, shallow depth of field is going to be a thin thing that's in focus.
	The rest is going to be blurred.
	Wide is going to get everything sharp, which is not necessarily good for a rally where you want the president or the speaker to be standing up from the crowd behind him.
	Sorry about that.
	That's definitely understandable, the shallow depth of field.
	And shooting 30 frames a second, obviously understandable because you want to...
	Has a certain tick or something in the way he moves.
	They want to get that, right?
	And so that's all understandable.
	Now, keep in mind, when it first happened, I'm looking at this from different knowledge sets melding together.
	One is weapons, which I'm quite familiar with.
	And another is photography, which I'm quite familiar with.
	And I'm like, caught a bullet trace.
	And actually, why are all the media there that day?
	So you can see how this is kind of stacking up.
	Possibilities here.
	And the possibility triangle.
	And CNN's there.
	And everybody in the mosh pit, Washington Post was there with him.
	And normally they're not at his protest.
	And he mysteriously has it on 1 8000th of a second.
	And I don't know what Lindsey had at that time.
	Now I know.
	But my instant thought was, why did he have it on 1 8000th of a second?
	Very lucky shot to catch a trace.
	I've never seen a trace from that angle.
	I don't think I've ever seen a trace with a still photo.
	Slow motion, you can get it.
	If you do it slow motion, you can get it.
	2,000 frames a second or something.
	No problem.
	The point is you can stop a hummingbird's wings at about 1,600, which is Consider NASCAR, you can do one four thousandth of a second, you know?
	You can stop helicopter blades with one eight hundredth, right?
	Depending on the helicopter and some things.
	But I mean, so if somebody's shooting on the stage or standing on the stage, you know, I just thought why, you know, I didn't know all the rest of it, but I was quite, we have to call everything out and if it passes the muster, then that stands, right?
	So putting this one to the test, it may have been That's an honest bullet trace.
	And he honestly had it on one eight thousandth, which was very surprising for a lot of people.
	But if it's a bright day, he's got the 24 millimeter.
	He's at one point six.
	Maybe it's actually straight up legit.
	Maybe he wasn't actually there waiting for a bullet.
	Maybe it was actually.
	But but we've put this through some rigorous, you know, we're looking at we've got, you know, 13 million people looked on my Twitter post on that.
	So a lot of people are chiming in.
	And if it passes that muster, then hey, that was just a legit shot.
	I'll say here, this is Z-Ball from our Locos community says, only makes sense if you're planning on capturing action.
	I mean, this is why, first of all, by the way, a hummingbird?
	I wonder if the chat's going to know, how many times per second does a hummingbird flap its wings?
	Depends on the type of hummingbird.
	Let's just see how close the chat gets, because it's mind-blowing.
	How many times?
	Yeah, I mean, Brett and I were talking about on the phone, Brett Weinstein.
	You know, I took Brett Weinstein to the Darien Gap with Chris Martinson.
	Those guys, they were good in the Darien Gap, you know.
	And Brett, he loves the jungle.
	He's an evolutionary biologist.
	And he did his PhD work down in Panama.
	And he did it on these tent-making bats.
	We're running around out in the jungle looking for these things we're supposed to be looking for.
	You know, illegal migrants coming through.
	But in reality, we ended up looking for bats too.
	And it was so much fun.
	I was like, I was sitting in like a biology class in his university because he's a professor, you know, but he's shooting with the same camera.
	So when Brett saw my post on X, you know, he messaged me.
	He's like, that is strange because he loves shooting bird photography.
	We were down there together in the Darien Gap shooting bird photography with the same cameras, right?
	And he's gifted with the camera.
	And, you know, and he loves bird photography.
	And he, you know, he told me, he told me on the phone yesterday or the day before, he's like, you know, a hummingbird, you know, he can completely stop the wings at one two thousandth or one three thousandth.
	Right. And I've seen other people can do it at one sixteen hundred.
	I think it'll depend on many things like what type of hummingbird.
	Right. And but but the bottom line is you can easily get them at one, two or three thousand.
	Much less, $18,000.
	So you can see where my spidey senses shot off the roof.
	Now, it could be wrong, and I think that this photographer could be proven to be accurate, but again, when I saw one, in other words, that he was not there to get President's head going into a pink mist, but that he actually just honestly had it on $18,000, because at $1.6 and a 24mm wide open at $1.6, that's just what he got, you know what I mean?
	That was the shutter speed that he drew in the lottery of the triangle.
	In fairness to the chat, I've been following the answers.
	It's about 80 beats per second.
	Some people might have been answering beats per minute versus beats per second.
	80 per second.
	It's mind-blowing.
	It's mind-blowing because it's just the mechanics of how that happens without the wing breaking.
	And they weigh something like, I don't know, one ounce?
	I forget how much they weigh.
	Can I say something about Brett?
	Brett told me the other day, like, we both love bird photography.
	So we'll talk about that, you know.
	And he's like, you know, there's 30 frames per second, right?
	So he's doing this.
	She shoots with the same camera.
	All three of us do.
	The New York Times guy and Brett and me.
	And so he was doing some shooting at 30 frames per second.
	Brett was.
	And he said without that super fast frames per second, he would never have been able to see this thing that the hummingbird does when it leaves.
	It turns upside down.
	It like, when it leaves the flower, it turns upside down when it's leaving.
	We got to ask Brett about that more.
	I need to call him up.
	But yeah, he said that 30 frames per second allows him to see all these motions that normally, you know, he'd never seen before.
	Pretty wild, isn't it?
	That's wild.
	Well, I'm actually just now digging into some of my old school photography.
	Check this out.
	This was back in the day when I was extremely enamored with high HDR, high dynamic range.
	And then I used to...
	Oh, yeah.
	That's me.
	That's cool, man.
	I used to do this stupid thing where I would do the yoga jump in the air and then try to catch it.
	That's honestly you in the air?
	That's awesome, man.
	I'll get the other one.
	There's another one that's even better.
	You're always jumping around, man.
	I watch your show sometimes and you're just like so high energy.
	I have been accused of having ADHD, but I don't know what that would look like in an adult.
	By the way, another interview that Doug Mills gave.
	Which explains a lot as well why he might have been basically running continuous video on his HD video on his camera.
	From what I understand, they were given like 5 to 10 minutes in that pit, whatever it's called, to take pictures.
	So all the photographers, from what I understand, get like a certain time slot.
	And he was in there and he shot it.
	It's very important to ask questions and you can understand how everyone gets...
	Conspiracy traumatized because we're living in a world where even if that photographer wasn't there to capture in HD the very moment it happened, that's enough of a coincidence that I could believe it.
	Because in order to believe that he was there to capture the moment, he would have had to have advanced warnings.
	Something's going to happen.
	Get in your high action settings.
	But you can't blame people for asking the question because it's just...
	I don't even know what the word is.
	Especially with New York Times, because I used to subscribe to New York Times.
	And then the Jason Blair thing happened where that DEI hire, he was a race hire, he was a black journalist, he was a crack addict.
	And he was firing, he was doing all these stories that were completely fraudulent.
	And the two top editors knew about it and continued to let him publish these stories.
	And so that was when I canceled my subscription.
	Actually, I want to say this, New York Times.
	I read them for years until that, and I was like, no mas, right?
	But the most accurate, or one of the most accurate stories, let's say the top 1% of stories written about me, which would be thousands of stories from everybody, would be New York Times.
	It was one of the most accurate stories, articles ever written about me.
	The only mistake was they called me a journalist, and that was it.
	I told the journalist.
	I said, man, I can't believe you got that so accurate.
	That was amazing.
	Except, why'd you call me a journalist?
	Anyway, whatever.
	And we'll let that one pass.
	Well, so Michael, I'm scrolling through to see if there's another picture that'll impress you.
	So you put out that thread.
	It gets a lot of engagement.
	I say engagement, I feel dirty saying it because that's not the purpose.
	It gets a lot of people asking questions because everybody's like, this was an inside job, period.
	This was a setup, period.
	Did they actually tip off a journalist to say, you don't know what's going to happen, but get in your action settings so someone captures it?
	First of all, I don't want to ask the question, but I have to.
	You've seen battle.
	You've seen death and destruction.
	Had that bullet caught its mark, what does that picture look like?
	It would have been ugly, that's for sure.
	I have done a great deal of combat.
	In fact, interestingly, one of America's most famous combat correspondents was killed.
	Not very close to me right now.
	I was at his memorial the other day.
	Ernie Pyle.
	And, you know, there's a lot of war correspondents.
	There's not that many combat correspondents.
	War correspondent, a subset of that is combat correspondents.
	People that really do serious combat.
	And I'm one of them.
	I'm probably the most experienced living actual combat correspondent.
	And New York Times even said that in the, or they said in that article about me in 2006, maybe, that, you know, that the Army said that I had spent more time embedded with combat troops than anybody else.
	And that's when I was just limbering up for battle.
	You know what I mean?
	So I spent the next several years running around with Marines and the Army and Air Force.
	British Army, Afghans, Iraqis.
	I was with everybody.
	And then I did it in other places as well after Afghanistan and Iraq.
	So I've done a tremendous amount of combat.
	And not war.
	I mean combat, right?
	And so...
	Stop there.
	Actually... I think if he was hit at 1 8,000th of a second at 30 frames per second, it would be like Zaprooter times...
	10,000.
	You know, my lawyer, my IP attorney, I had a lot of IP infringements, intellectual property infringements over time.
	If you look up Michael Yan and copyright infringement, you'll see the heads that I've got staked on the polls out there of people that we beat in copyright battles, including bankrupting a magazine called Shock Magazine, Hachette Filippacci.
	All these...
	ABC, the Army, just long list of who's who, who stole Michael Yon's property and paid big for it, right?
	And so I learned how to fight those battles, man.
	And so what I'm getting to is my attorney, we worked together for 15 years probably, and his firm represent, I don't know if they still represent it, but they probably do, the Zapruder footage, right? And he said the derivatives from that and the copyright, you know, the IP violations, they are a big cash flow, right?
	Because if he caught that photo, I mean, I'm just saying this from the knowledge of how much...
	I mean, in the beginning when people were stealing my photos and, you know, big magazines and stuff, I was upset with them, you know?
	But now I'm like, I wish more people would steal more of my photos because you make a lot of money off of it.
	But this photo...
	If he had shot a series of Trump's head exploding, let's say, at 30 frames per second, which you can make that into a video in like 10 to 15 minutes on your computer.
	You take that 30 frames per second, that's an instant video, right?
	But that would have been worth, let's just be directionally accurate.
	I bet that would have been worth tens of millions of dollars to be directionally accurate, right?
	That photo would have been wild.
	That series of photos...
	So you would have had photo and videos, right?
	You would have had photo and video because you're shooting at 30 frames per second.
	So you would have been...
	I mean, that would have been off the charts.
	I'm going to...
	You obviously...
	Everybody knows of this image.
	I mean, this is...
	These images.
	I mean, this is what it...
	Would have been, but a human.
	Yep. It's so nauseating, in a sense, but then also godly, divine intervention, cosmic, that in this glitch in the universe, it could have been that apple, and as it is, oh, he caught the trace.
	It would have been a video of him.
	With 50 megapixel of the best sensor that money can buy stills, it would have been a video of him talking, his head exploding, and him falling, right?
	And then all the other subsequent things as he was taken away, right?
	It would have been one of the most incredible sequences in history, right?
	It makes me want to actually physically vomit.
	And I'm not being dramatic.
	It makes me physically ill to think about it.
	Actually, I've shot similar footage.
	One is called Gates of Fire Series.
	If you look at my Gates of Fire Series, I was actually in Iraq.
	We had a sniper event, hit one of our soldiers in the neck.
	He was okay.
	It just grazed him.
	And his name was Daniel Lama.
	He's okay now.
	And then we started shooting for the sniper.
	And so the current...
	Commander of CENTCOM, who would have been the one that just ordered that airstrike on Yemen.
	It would have been him, Eric Carilla.
	I spent five months in combat with Eric Carilla.
	And I was behind Eric Carilla one day in Mosul when Eric got hit three times.
	And it got right in front of me, real close.
	And I was shooting with a 50mm lens like this one.
	It was just like this, 50mm lens.
	And I was shooting it at five frames per second because that was...
	The best I could get back then.
	We were running down this alley.
	Eric gets hit three times, breaks a femur in half.
	He rolls.
	And I've got all this.
	Five frames a second.
	And I've got him getting hit, right?
	This is probably the most intense combat series I've ever seen in any war, actually.
	And I happen to be the one that shot it.
	And so the firefight continues.
	After this series, by the way, that's when Bruce Willis called me and wanted to do the movie.
	But so the firefight continues.
	I've got a bullet splashing off the wall right in front of me, right in front of me, like arms distance away, this far away.
	And I have the bullet hitting the wall right above a lieutenant's head.
	Then hand-to-hand combat ensued, a lot of blood.
	I've got the whole thing, right?
	So the sort of stuff that just happened with Trump, that would have been like nothing compared to what I'm used to doing in actual combat, except that it would have been the president, right?
	I was in many instances where people were killed.
	Eric, now the one who was shot, he is the CENTCOM commander now.
	He is the four-star general in charge of CENTCOM, and he is the one who would have ordered and been watching from the talk or the headquarters, not the talk, but the CENTCOM.
	He probably was watching from, I'm guessing, from CENTCOM headquarters when those airstrikes just took place.
	I've been with Eric on the ground and many...
	Such things.
	And I've been with him in the headquarters watching this.
	And he was the guy that was shot.
	Eric Carilla.
	I'm looking at some of the images.
	Can I bring them up?
	I don't want to get...
	Oh yeah, go ahead.
	I'm finding the one that you sent me yesterday.
	Let me see if I can bring this one up.
	That's a different day.
	That was a few months earlier.
	That was the little girl photo.
	Also taken in Mosul.
	That was after a suicide car bomb.
	Let me see if I can...
	I can't seem to bring it up easily enough in terms of...
	well let me let me just see the i go to gates of fire i'll just bring it back out gates of fire michael yon i put in femur to see if i could get uh that's where eric is getting shot when you see him running down the there he is getting shot and that it looks like he's he's his femur that he's getting shot right there and um and Yep, that's where he's getting shot.
	The gentleman that I'm putting the cursor around?
	That is now the CENTCOM commander.
	That's Eric Carilla.
	He's now a four-star general.
	He almost died.
	He kept fighting.
	Even after he was shot, he kept fighting.
	You see, there's not much dust there right now.
	There's very little dust.
	There's a lot of moon dust in Iraq.
	As the sequence continues, there was a lot of bullets coming and going.
	You'll see a lot of dust starting to kick up.
	I start to move forward.
	And I actually had to pick up a rifle and help Eric because a couple of the soldiers, they froze.
	I mean, there was a lot of bullets flying around.
	I took a rifle and I joined the fight.
	And that's Rob Prosser right there.
	He was the sergeant major.
	I was with him later in Afghanistan.
	We were roommates in Afghanistan.
	He's a super stud, highly competent soldier, came from Ranger Regiment.
	So he was the sergeant major of the Deuce 4, the 124th Infantry Regiment.
	And the guy on the ground with the flex cuffs behind him, Okay, that's Eric Carilla.
	The other guy that was on the ground that you just saw, his name is Khalid Yasum Noah.
	I can't believe I still remember his name, but his name is Khalid.
	He had just been released from Abu Ghraib.
	He had just been shot.
	You see the guy with the blood on his leg?
	That's Rob Prosser.
	Rob Prosser shot that guy four times, blew a testicle off, hit him the other times in the abdomen.
	They still ended up in hand-to-hand combat, and that guy still lived for eight months.
	And I took Rob's rifle because he had thrown it down doing hand-to-hand.
	His rifle was black.
	In other words, it was out of ammunition.
	So he threw it down and he's fighting this guy.
	And the lieutenant gave me ammunition.
	He wouldn't fight.
	So I took his ammunition and I joined the fight.
	And I cleverly accidentally shot a propane canister.
	But luckily it didn't explode.
	I mean, a lot of gas came out.
	But anyway, long story short, that was Gates of Fire.
	Started off with Daniel Lama getting hit with a sniper.
	We're looking for the sniper.
	Eric then gets hit.
	And then Rob shoots the Al-Qaeda dude, Khalid Yassam Noah, who had just been released from Abu Ghraib.
	He was involved in another suicide bombing that killed over 20 of our people in the mess hall up.
	Or at least he was arrested on that day with maps of our base.
	And then Rob ends up in hand.
	Rob told me, he said he almost had that Al-Qaeda dude strangled out.
	You know, blood is slippery like ice.
	Blood is very slippery.
	If your hands have blood on them and you're fighting...
	Not that I know from any form of combat, but more like oil almost, because water allows you to have more traction, but like oily...
	Rob Chetty almost had him out.
	He was strangling him, and the Al-Qaeda dude bit the watch.
	He kept his watch on the inside.
	Credit to the Al-Qaeda dude.
	He was fighting hard.
	And he'd been shot four times.
	Once blew a testicle off.
	He's still putting up a man-sized fight on the ground.
	I found Rob's rifle on the ground.
	I got some ammo and I went into it.
	I was going to kill anybody else that was in there.
	You're not supposed to do this because you're a journalist.
	But my buddies, I like these guys.
	And so I picked up a rifle.
	I went in there to draw a fire.
	I fired it where I thought another Al Qaeda guy might be, and it hit a propane canister, which blew in the air and spinning stuff.
	And Rob said the illness hadn't choked out, but the sound from the shot and the propane canister caused him to wake back up again.
	And anyway, so it was like, you know, the alligator you think is dead, but it's not.
	Just anyway, it's just another day of combat photography.
	So when you do your tours, you're doing photography.
	You're not carrying a firearm?
	Like, how do you do that?
	No, no, no.
	I mean, often when I was over there, I spent two years in Iraq, and then I spent two more years in Afghanistan.
	I was going back and forth between the wars.
	And you learn a lot about war by being in a war, but you learn a lot more by going to more than one, right?
	And I was going back and forth.
	And so of the two years I spent in Afghanistan, I spent a year alone in Afghanistan.
	And a lot of that time, you know, I had weapons and hand grenades and everything else.
	Because I'm not a journalist.
	Everybody says, journalists aren't supposed to do that.
	And I'm like, that's very nice.
	Go be a journalist, because I'm not a journalist, right?
	I'm more of an analyst.
	If you look at my reports from the Afghan war from 2006, I just got a message from an army officer just hours ago, and he's talking about how accurate I was about Afghanistan.
	And he was in Afghanistan at the same time I was, my first trip, in 2006.
	I wrote 12 major dispatches about the Afghan war, and those...
	And they were very controversial at the time.
	People were like, well, you've become a traitor.
	You're saying we're losing the war.
	It's going the wrong direction.
	I'm like, listen, I'm not here to be your buddy.
	And if you don't like me, have a nice day, right?
	I'm here to find the truth that I can find and I will publish it, right?
	And so I think the way the war is going is we're losing it in Afghanistan.
	I know that's counter-narrative, right?
	But I wrote 12 major dispatches.
	One is called...
	It might be a series called The Perfect Evil.
	It's about the opium trade.
	But in any case, I described these two.
	Suicide attacks that happened when I was there and just stuff that made me think the war was going the wrong direction.
	And I published those.
	And I said, of course, I may prove to be wrong, but look at my record.
	You know, it's stacking up.
	I was the first one to call the Iraq Civil War about 18 months in advance of everybody else.
	I was steadily saying it's a civil war in Iraq.
	Everybody's like, you can't say that.
	You hate President Bush.
	I'm like, I don't care about President Bush.
	I care about my friends that are in the army.
	I care about my family that's in the military and the Marines.
	You know, I care about the United States.
	I care about these Iraqis, too.
	What's going on here?
	I want to know what's going on.
	I care about my friend, Scott Helbigson, that was hanged off a bridge in Fallujah that I went to high school with, right?
	And my other Green Beret teammate, Richard Ferguson, that was killed the next day.
	Also in Iraq.
	I went to both of their funerals.
	That's why I went to the Iraq war.
	I went because I do not trust the media.
	And I do not trust the government.
	Rewind the tapes back to when I'm 19. And I saw what the media did.
	I never trusted them again, right?
	And then also, the way the government worked with my case, I was just like, I didn't think it was that bad, though.
	I still didn't realize it was as bad as it is now, right?
	And so, let me get a water here.
	But the bottom line is, so that, what happened when I was 19, you said, what effects did it have?
	One is it made me hypersensitive.
	That's why I read every book that Jerry Spence wrote.
	I think Barnes must read Jerry Spence because I hear some of the spot patterns and I'm like, that's Jerry Spence talking right there.
	That's my man.
	Jerry Spence, I went up to Jackson Hole one time.
	He's got this big eagle over his office, you know, and that's where Jerry Spence's office is, like, Wyoming.
	I read so many books on law, and I always wanted to find, you know, Jerry Spence, the lawyer, and I read all of his books.
	And I tell everybody, read all of his books.
	Just pick one and start there, anyway.
	And pick the easy one, How to Argue and Win Every Time, right?
	But I like more of the law books.
	And I studied his writing, and like, why do I like Jerry Spence so much?
	One is, is he tells the truth.
	At one point, I remember he's talking about one of his clients.
	He used to perpetually do this.
	He would make his clients look to be like a bad dude.
	I'm like, Mr. Spence, the way that you're talking, I would be throwing him in jail.
	You're describing your client as not a guy.
	But the thing is, is he talks in such direct, raw talk, it lends credibility, right?
	And, you know, he's just raw.
	And then, you know, then he starts laying out his back patterns and you can see that he's incredibly well studied.
	And then towards the end of it, you're like, of course, not guilty.
	You know, they used to accuse Jerry Spence of hypnotizing his juries and that sort of thing.
	Let me read this, by the way, just because I...
	The battery's dying in this light.
	Let me turn it off.
	This guy's actually precious.
	I about fell out when he was talking about the giraffes at Neverland.
	He's adorable, said not in a condescending or emasculating way, in a genius way.
	That's from Buffalo Betsy in our community.
	Hey, Buffalo Betsy.
	I am adorable.
	That's why they call me Big Honey 6. That's my call sign on the radio.
	Big Honey 6. How tall are you, if I may ask?
	5'6".
	Shut up!
	We're the same height, guys.
	That's why that guy was picking on me, man.
	He thought he could beat me up.
	But the 6, though, military people know what I'm talking about.
	If you have 6 on the end, it means you're the commander.
	7 means you're the sergeant major.
	So if you're like Deuce, you know, Deuce 6, like Eric Carilla, when he got shot, his call sign on the radio was Deuce 6 because the unit was Deuce.
	So there would be Deuce 1, Deuce 4, Deuce 7, Deuce 9 or whatever.
	So Big Honey was when we were doing our Operation Burning Edge on the border.
	We all had radios and stuff.
	So, you know, I was leading it.
	So I said, you know, I'm Big Honey 6. Dude, we're the same height.
	I'm actually 5'5 and a half, but nobody goes around without shoes on, so I'm 5'6.
	Hold on.
	I wanted to bring on King of Biltongs in the house.
	He says...
	Oh, hold on.
	I didn't bring up the right one.
	What is Michael's thoughts on the behavior of the photographer at the Trump rally when he was shot?
	Why do I can't...
	I can see this on the top.
	They appeared to rush into fire on the left of the stage.
	Not one of them...
	But not one of them, but no less than three of them.
	So I guess the question here is, did they know that they weren't at risk to run in and try to get the photos?
	I think these people are crazy.
	If you look at a lot of my...
	I wish I had the gear that's available now, like the incredible GoPros and stuff.
	But if you look at some of my combat videography that I did, you'll hear bullets going, right by machine guns, going right by us, right?
	And going out and like lots on different videos that I've got of combat.
	And I never ran from it and I would tend to go towards it, right?
	And that's why I spent some, there are people that will do that, right?
	Not a lot, but there are people that will tend to go literally to the sound of gunfire and I'm one of them, right?
	And so clearly, so I'm not surprised.
	In fact, I'll give them credit for that.
	But yeah.
	They could have been killed.
	Of course, we know that.
	I mean, if you're going to do this sort of work, this is not a work for...
	People often ask me, you know, they want to do...
	The people that really followed my war work for years...
	You know, Ernie Pyle was doing what I did, and Mr. Pyle is dead.
	He was killed very close to where I'm at now, you know, in 1945 by a Japanese sniper, apparently.
	And he was incredible.
	Combat correspondent.
	He was over in the European sector.
	When that started to wrap up, he came here and was promptly killed here in Iwo Jima.
	I'm on Okinawa.
	Iwo Jima is a small island.
	It's a 30-minute ferry ride from where I'm at right now.
	You can drive on the ferry with your car.
	The bottom line is...
	It's extremely dangerous.
	Like when I was over in the Thailand fighting, I was in two coups in Thailand, right?
	And I got hit in the leg there, actually.
	But I got hit in the leg.
	When you say hit in the leg, you mean shot?
	I got shot, but the bullet did not make...
	I didn't bleed.
	I think it was an M16 bullet because there was a taxi driver in front of me and he was killed.
	And I think it went through him and hit me.
	So when it hit me...
	It just stang.
	I was like, oh man, I got hit.
	And so I was running across.
	There was a lot of bullets flying.
	And I was in this position under a bridge by the Dusatani Hotel by Lumpini Park.
	And I was like, man, I'm going to get flanked here and get smoked.
	So I'm like, oh, there's a lot of bullets going down that road.
	Chance it.
	So I went across the road because I threw the bullets and bang, I got hit.
	But I got to the other side, checked for blood, of course.
	You should always check your entire body.
	Body for blood.
	Feel it.
	And if you're with buddies or friends, feel it.
	Feel down their back or whatever.
	Because you want to make sure that often when you're in combat, you don't even know you're hit.
	Right? But I felt that one.
	And I got over and I was like, well, I'm not bleeding.
	I checked everything else.
	No hits.
	A lot of times people are shot and they don't know it.
	It's somebody else that notices that they're bleeding.
	Right? And so I got to the other side.
	The taxi driver was dead.
	I think it went through him.
	But I don't know.
	I have no idea really.
	That's the only thing I can explain it.
	I mean, I clearly got hit in the leg.
	It stang and it left a little mark, but it didn't even break the skin.
	It was like a hardcore pellet gun.
	That's wild.
	Let me read this on that subject.
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	Okay, so look.
	I'm not jumping on the conspiracy theory that the photographers had advanced notice.
	I think that can be explained just by settings.
	Hold on.
	I will say from experience.
	They are often tipped off.
	There was army officers in the Iraq War and Afghan War.
	They would say, if we want to know what's happening next, we just watch where Michael Yon goes.
	And how did I magically know?
	I mean, because I was getting tipped off.
	Hold on.
	I was getting tipped off.
	Okay, well, now I'm starting to get...
	Tipped off, as in something's going to happen, or there might be an operation being carried out at X, Y, and Z point in time?
	As in, I would get a message that would say, Michael, go talk with Colonel So-and-so.
	He'll be at such-and-such today.
	And I'd go, hey, Colonel, I was expecting you.
	And he'd go, oh, here.
	We'll have a helicopter for you tomorrow, and you can go over there, right?
	And then when I get there, talk with Colonel Smith or whatever, right?
	I'm talking with him.
	And I'll say, okay, obviously I'm here for a reason.
	What are you going to do, right?
	And so I get the whole brief in, and the next thing you know, I'm in a lot of combat.
	Because everybody knew I would do combat, right?
	And sometimes when our side knew it was going to be something serious, they wanted somebody like me that would dive into it.
	For instance, with the British in Sangin, Afghanistan.
	Sangin was the most dangerous district out of about 400 districts in Afghanistan.
	So even the combat correspondents, the very, very few that there are, did not want to hang out in Sangin very long.
	The British asked me if I would go.
	I said, send me a helicopter.
	So I ended up out in Sangin.
	I mean, I'm getting tipped off, and not just tipped off, but facilitated, right?
	And so, you know, I used to say to the Army officers, we just watch where you're going, and we kind of know what's going to happen.
	I'm like, Well, if I were you, I would keep my eyes on me.
	You know, if you want to know what's going on, just watch me.
	So when I see all this stuff, it makes perfect sense.
	Been there, done that.
	And this is normal.
	You look after, on October 7th, the Israeli government is blaming New York Times and AP and who else?
	Washington Post, I think, for embedding with Hamas.
	New York Times denies it.
	But New York Times apparently was on scene.
	This is normal.
	This is absolutely normal.
	Not only is it not abnormal, it's day-to-day business.
	It's like ordering a pizza.
	By the way, Michael, I'm going to wait for confirmation before I say something next, but let me ask you this.
	Okay, people were saying, why would CNN be present or why was whoever present at this Pennsylvania rally?
	I don't even know which way that goes.
	As far as you know, was there more journalism presence at this particular rally than at prior rallies or less?
	But I would imagine there's always MSM legacy media at these rallies, wherever it is, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, whatever.
	Do you know if there was more or less as compared to prior rallies?
	You know, I don't follow Trump around, and I don't go to presidential rallies, you know.
	So I don't know, but other people continue to say that was very abnormal.
	You know, normally they ignore Trump, but they were live streaming.
	And you keep in mind, this camera, you know, this has a Wi-Fi function on it.
	I can get on the Wi-Fi that you and I are talking over now, and I can shoot a photo and have it go right up, and somebody can get it in New York in minutes, right?
	But also, Sony has a new device that...
	They can get all those photos very, very quickly.
	It's a more high bandwidth than just the internet.
	They were live streaming from CNN and the others.
	Why were they doing that?
	Because they never really do that with Trump's stuff.
	That was a stage.
	That was a clear stage.
	When I say stage, I mean in the sense of Hollywood.
	That was clearly a stage and that was clearly staged.
	A photo like that and a video like that, videos like that.
	Would have been very useful in information war.
	Information war is something I've studied in detail.
	The highest form of warfare is not kinetic.
	It's not rifles and whatnot.
	It's information war.
	I've written three books on information war, specifically on Chinese information war.
	Unfortunately, they're only in Japanese.
	They're not in English because I've been working to wake up Japan for many years.
	I'm in Japan.
	Japan is a vital ally of the United States.
	I'm in Okinawa.
	This is one of the most vital trains of Japan and of the Pacific.
	Right where I'm sitting right now is one of the most important places in the Pacific, right?
	And it's not a coincidence that I'm here fasting and studying, right?
	And so the bottom line is information war is the highest form of warfare.
	Again, I've written three books on it.
	But again, they're only in Japanese as well.
	But I study this.
	When I was just up in Yellowknife and when I was just up in Vancouver and Toronto, I was just going to museums and looking at, you know, I'm picking up information war trails, right?
	I go to libraries.
	I go to archaeological digs.
	I go to statues.
	I'm watching.
	And I can talk about information war.
	I could literally talk at the rate we're talking now for 10 days straight about things that I see in all these dozens of countries that I go to.
	I was recently in Guatemala with Masako Ganaha doing the same thing in Honduras and El Salvador.
	Yeah, El Salvador too.
	And Belize and Panama.
	We go to museum after museum after museum.
	We go out with indigenous people.
	We talk with them.
	We pick up information war trails and we study this in detail.
	That would have been a normal thing to do.
	This is not abnormal at all.
	In fact, it's a day at the office.
	Before we go further, by the way, I'm reluctant every now and again to shout out the people who help make things happen because I don't know if they actually want their names put on blast.
	So I won't disclose private names.
	But it was of the member of our community, Big Daddy Cole, in Locals, who put us in touch, or at least I DM'd you in Twitter, but then I was DMing...
	Thank you for putting us in touch, sir.
	Do you know him, or is it another...
	I don't know him other than the messages and that sort of thing.
	Okay, well, it's cool.
	No, Big Daddy Cole was the member of our community.
	I have coffee and water, by the way.
	Dude, I don't know.
	I eat fast.
	I'm already getting hungry.
	Although I went for a jog and a bike ride today, and I had a...
	What I was drinking before was Yerba Mate, and it's one I got on the way back from Wisconsin.
	I didn't like it, so I didn't want to show the can because I'm not a fan of whatever that Yerba Mate was, but I don't like wasting food, so I drank it anyway.
	So, okay.
	The photography side, set aside.
	People can deduce whatever deeper plots they want from the image.
	I just, I go back to that Apple picture, but more broadly speaking, Michael, I think I know where you're going to be inclined to think on this one.
	You've been to combat, you've seen hell on earth, you know what goes into securing important assets.
	I mean, what insights could you provide to the world as to what you witnessed occurred on Saturday and in the following, the ensuing assumption of responsibility for what went down?
	Like, what are your obvious observations?
	Clearly it was a stage and it was staged.
	I mean, that's obvious.
	That's like a done deal.
	The 1.8 thousandth of a second, that might have been just the natural setting for that light conditions in the 1.6 F-stop in the 24. So that may not have been.
	But oddly enough, we could compare.
	Was Doug Mills at other?
	Is that a Doug Mills setting that he's always used before under similar circumstances?
	He was the guy that did the Bush photo.
	You know that.
	I think you already know that.
	After 9-11, he's the one that took that famous photo of George Bush when they're whispering in his ear.
	Of course I know that.
	Let me just go to the internet and double check.
	No, I did not know that, actually.
	I knew that he's been doing presidential photography.
	But the internet could go back and see, all right, if that's the explanation, we can go back to presumably find the settings on prior images under similar circumstances.
	I won't go down that rabbit hole in terms of whether or not he was tipped off.
	That would happen or something would happen.
	I think they always expect something to happen at a rally, whether or not it's just violence, someone attempting it because there had been a prior attempt of a guy rushing the stage.
	But that setup, like it was supposed to be as public, more graphic in higher definition than JFK in the Saputo film.
	I mean, where do you even start when you look at this as someone with your experience and say their explanation as to the negligence doesn't even make sense?
	You know, when I was in Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the number one targets is journalists, period.
	That's why it's so dangerous.
	When I was in Thailand and that fighting, how many got killed?
	Four or five journalists?
	People can look it up.
	I was in both of the coups in 2010 and 2014.
	And I mean in them, right?
	I mean, like in the middle of the action.
	There was like 2,000 casualties in one and about, I think, 1,200 or 1,400 in the other.
	There was a lot of firefights and grenades and stuff.
	So, I mean, what I'm getting to is a lot of journalists obviously got targeted.
	Like one Japanese journalist got popped in the head, dead.
	And another's, you know.
	Quite a lot were injured or wounded.
	And sometimes it was obvious they were being targeted.
	But journalists, for instance, in Iraq and Afghanistan, if you show up to a video camera when we're in a firefight, you will get shot.
	You can be in civilian clothes without any rifle or anything, you're going to get shot, right?
	Because you are going to be seen as an enemy filmographer, right?
	And likewise, the enemy does the same.
	That's why I always thought the two priority targets when we're out, when I was on so many missions with the US and British and others, is me with these giant cameras, which they can clearly see, and the commander.
	It's going to be me and the commander.
	If they can get me or the commander, they're going to shoot us, right?
	Oh, man.
	Hello. I love dogs.
	Yeah, this is my turd dog.
	He's been...
	Every kid should have a dog, man.
	I can't believe people that grow up without dogs.
	It's kind of weird.
	Me too.
	I can't understand it either.
	And I can't understand without a big dog.
	I'll show you a video in a second.
	I met the mascot for the Cleveland Browns on the way home.
	Just by fortuitous chance, a big-ass bull mastiff.
	Just the most beautiful dog on earth.
	Sorry. One of my first babysitters was our German Shepherd Duchess.
	And when I would try to leave the yard, she would knock me down.
	She was dragging me one time by my shirt or diaper or something.
	I was crying.
	I was like, I love Duchess.
	Treat me like a puppy, you know?
	Look, we're on it.
	I'm going to bring it up here.
	Look, Michael, look at this dog.
	Hold on.
	We've got to get this, and we've got to get this in big.
	All right, apparently this is the mascot of the Cleveland Browns.
	What do you say?
	Look over here.
	Is there anything else you can do to this dog other than kissing?
	My brother had one of those dogs, and he's probably watching right now because my brother watches you all the time with my sister.
	Yeah, he had a bull mastiff just like that.
	I grew up with Bull Mastiffs.
	They're the absolute best dogs on earth.
	Blobbering all over the place.
	No, man, the Bull Mastiff.
	Look, he knocked your microphone.
	He's angry because I'm complimenting other dogs more than him.
	So you say that's an interesting thing.
	People say journalists, they don't get caught in the crossfire.
	They are targets.
	There's no like, oh, I'm credentials.
	Don't shoot me when you're in combat.
	You are documenting the evil deeds of the enemy and they don't want you there.
	Yeah, if you're on their side, they're going to treat you like gold.
	If they think you're on the opposite side, you're in extreme danger.
	I mean, the U.S. military has...
	Look at the...
	I think it was a tank round that went into the hotel in Baghdad at the beginning of the Iraq War, where the journalists were.
	And they're like, oops, accidental, we didn't know that.
	Or, you know, Israel popping the journalists on a regular basis.
	Of course, they are...
	Listen. This is much more powerful than a rifle.
	That photo that I shot after the car bomb in Mosul in April of 2005, I think it was, of the soldier holding the baby, his name's Mark Beeger.
	He was actually Eric Carillo's operations officer.
	Very serious man himself.
	Mark Beeger is a very serious soldier.
	Mark Beeger, he had children too.
	After the car bomb, he saw Sarah I'm sorry, Farah.
	Yeah, that photo.
	He saw her condition.
	He wanted to get her to our hospital as quick as possible.
	But unfortunately, Farah passed away.
	But yeah, so when I took that photo with the 50mm lens, actually, it went viral in Iraq.
	And it made a lot...
	Intelligence people are telling me this.
	When that went viral in Iraq, the hotlines, because they had hotlines set up, went wild with actionable intelligence.
	Our guys started cleaning up Al-Qaeda.
	That little photo probably saved a lot of American...
	Mark Beeger's action.
	American soldiers and British, they love children.
	You see it everywhere I go.
	They just like children.
	And when Mark saw her hurt, he should have been...
	Paying attention to the things around us.
	But he's like, he's trying to rescue Farrah.
	And, you know, you can see him.
	He was very upset because he has children.
	And that photo went viral.
	And intel guys were like, we're just cleaning up Al-Qaeda thanks to that photo.
	Because they took that photo, the military did, and distributed it widely across Iraq.
	And so that's where, again, that's information war.
	That's, you know, that's not why I took the photo.
	I took the photo because I was taking photos of everything.
	And then Mark, I was like, oh man, look.
	And so anyway, we went back to that area of Mosul a couple days later and we're talking with our family.
	And then another firefight broke out and another guy got shot.
	And it just continued like that forever until I left after five months with him.
	On the same subject, if you know a photo, Being more powerful than the gun.
	I forget.
	I'm trying to refresh my memory on the backstory behind this photograph where I remember...
	That guy getting shot apparently was a Viet Cong.
	If my memory is correct, that guy's a general that does the shooting.
	I think he ended up in the United States, actually, as a restaurant owner or something.
	I think.
	A bunch of people had just been horrifically murdered, from what I understand.
	This may have been down in Saigon, I think.
	They caught that guy, and he executed him on the street.
	Which technically, and openly, that would be a huge war crime, actually.
	But, you know, that's the way it went.
	I remember there's a story behind the photographer.
	I'll try to find out.
	Yeah, there was a tragic element where they said that that photo effectively killed two people.
	And I have to remember what it was before I make a mistake.
	A lot of the...
	A lot of pretty much...
	All the combat photographers and whatnot that I know of have ended up being alcoholics or druggies.
	I don't know any except for me that aren't.
	They end up being very...
	They don't have to go that way.
	I think that's, by the way, another part of Information War.
	A lot of our veterans who end up being alcoholics and drug addicts, not all of them, a lot of them come back and they're leading companies now.
	They're the fire chief or they're teaching...
	You know, they're coaches at minor league baseball.
	They're like really good people, upstanding citizens.
	Most of them are like that, actually, upstanding citizens.
	But I think what you see is with the information war is like, okay, you're supposed to become this big war veteran and then become an alcoholic.
	You know, it's like a progression that's taught to you in the movies, right?
	I'm like, don't even think about doing that.
	You're a loser.
	You know what I mean?
	And call it out like that.
	But a lot of the photographers, they end up being serious.
	Not just photographers, but the guys that do a lot of combat.
	I think that's programmed into them to do that.
	I can't imagine living with that type of trauma.
	Actually, no.
	Wikipedia's not the best source, people, but I remember this story.
	So Adams, the photographer, would later lament of the impact of the photo.
	On loan...
	On Lohn and his photograph, Adams wrote in Time Magazine, two people died in that photograph, the recipient of the bullet and General Nguyen Nguyen Lohn.
	Oh, Lohn, I'm sorry.
	The general killed the Viet Cong.
	I killed the general with my camera.
	Still, photographs are the most powerful weapons in the world.
	People believe them, but photographs do lie, even without manipulation.
	They are only half-truths.
	What the photograph didn't say was, quote, what would you do if you were the general at the time and place on that day and you caught the so-called bad guy?
	After he blew away one, two, three American people, the picture really messed up his life.
	He never blamed me.
	He told me if I hadn't taken the picture, someone else would have.
	But I felt bad for him and his family a long time.
	I sent flowers and heard that he had died and wrote, I'm sorry, these are the tears.
	Can I say something about that?
	That's funny that that photographer said that.
	That the still photo is the most powerful weapon in war.
	I believe that too.
	And I wrote about that in 2005 or 2006.
	Because I started to realize still photos are far more powerful than anything else.
	They're more powerful than video.
	They're more powerful than audio.
	They're more powerful than written words.
	And there's reasons for that.
	And it's funny that he said that.
	Because he's only the second person.
	Or he said it before me.
	But I also re-recognized that pattern.
	That this still camera, right moment, you know, F8 and be there, as one famous photographer, I'm sorry, I've forgotten his name, used to say F8, in other words, put it on F8 and be on location.
	You know, people kept asking him, how do you get all these great photos?
	And he's like, it's simple, F8 and be there, right?
	And being there, and keeping your finger on the button, as Doug was doing, Doug Mills, I don't know Doug Mills, but, I mean, 30 frames per second.
	That's completely understandable.
	He was chewing up the memory on that.
	I mean, he should have been.
	I mean, that's just wise.
	I was just curious about the 1 8000th of a second and being on location, and that's kind of weird.
	But it could all be explainable.
	But when it comes to the still photo, I'm telling you, it's far more powerful than anything, and there's reasons for it.
	Hey, where did he go?
	Did his computer go dead?
	Hold on, he's going to come back in a second.
	That's not me, people.
	I think Michael might have unplugged or overheated something.
	I'll bring him back up in a second.
	Some of the pictures that I still have up on Flickr.
	My goodness, who remembers Flickr?
	Well, here's a good one.
	This was the birth of our first child.
	This is a photograph that I snapped with my camera.
	It was not a camera.
	This was the Nikon D300, if I'm not mistaken.
	But there's one in here that I actually wanted to show more.
	This was called Love at First Sight, I think I called this.
	Let's just bring this back here.
	Okay, I don't remember who that kid is.
	Here's another breastfeeding one.
	That's my wife with our first baby.
	That's me.
	And this was when I discovered merging two photographs together.
	That was when I was living in my parents' basement as a lawyer, people.
	Just so everybody knows that.
	This is one of the ones.
	You see, I wasn't on a fast enough shutter speed with a low enough ISO.
	Let me just make sure I'll text Michael and make sure that nothing worse has happened.
	Did your battery die?
	Question mark.
	Smiley face.
	Yeah, I still got my pictures up on the interwebs.
	Flickr. What's going to happen if I go?
	Ah, yes.
	This is art, people.
	Viva Fry art.
	Before Viva Fry was Viva Fry.
	And then we got that.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me just mute this and see what Michael is saying.
	Thank you.
	We're going to find out if Michael's coming back, people, but that's my favorite.
	That's one of my favorite pictures that I've ever taken.
	I call it takeoff or liftoff or whatever.
	While Michael's out, let me just take this back out and see what the news is going to be.
	Oh, see some of the chat here.
	Viva, please ask Michael, was he at Abu Ghraib with the British SBS during the shootouts?
	I'll ask him that when he comes back.
	Let me screen grab that.
	And then we got AllGoodGuys says...
	Viva, funny that I live in Thailand and was in Helmand Province.
	Ask him if he's ever been to FOB Pain.
	I will.
	I was plugged in, but it turns out the massage...
	Are you able to come back on?
	Looks like battery might have gotten dead.
	Viva, you got sidetracked, but could you ask Michael to expand on what he meant by this is a stage?
	Yes. Well, I think what he means is...
	What I think we all understand this to mean is...
	This was a JFK-level orchestrated inside job assassination attempt intended to put JFK's public demoralizing assassination to shame in the level of violence, gore, and gratuitousness and publicity of it.
	This is what we can do, is what this was intended to be.
	That's what I think he meant.
	We're going to get him back in a second.
	And until then, let me just keep doing this.
	I've lost a few of the tips, so I'm just going to go to our locals community right now and see these.
	The question is, was that photographer at other Trump rallies, says woodworker1999.
	You can check.
	His name is Doug Mills.
	I suspect he was.
	But check it out.
	And that's what the internet is for.
	That's what 4chan is for.
	And I say that not being insulting.
	That's what the aggregate knowledge of the internet is for.
	Jeanette Victoria says, Jerry Spence is awesome.
	He answered an email from a nobody.
	Then we've got the real J-Man.
	Says, what is Michael's thoughts on the behavior of the photographers at Trump rally when he was shot?
	Oh, I already read that one.
	This guy is absolutely precious.
	I got that one as well.
	If you're snapping HDR, says Finboy Slick, at least one of the many exposure levels required for compositing the image is going to be pretty fast.
	Could it be an artifact of a digital camera's HDR algorithm?
	No, I think the photograph is...
	Someone sent me something via Twitter, I think.
	I'm going to have to find it and watch the video.
	That's from Finboy Slick.
	I don't think anyone's questioning what that actually was.
	And I don't think the guy was on HDR.
	On HDR, high dynamic range.
	Let me see if Mike was in the backdrop again.
	On HDR, high dynamic range, you take five photos within short proximity, and they all have different settings.
	One is...
	Overexposed, less overexposed, perfect exposure, underexposed, and then really underexposed.
	And you put them all together.
	You merge them together.
	And what you end up getting is a photograph that basically has beautiful exposure everywhere.
	Let me show you an example of HDR.
	Yeah, this is also one of my favorite pictures of all time.
	That I've ever taken.
	Sorry, one of my favorite pictures that I've ever taken.
	This is the St. Joseph's Oratory in Montreal.
	So this was on a tripod.
	HDR, five separate pictures.
	Was it?
	Or was it...
	Damn it, this might not be the best one because I'm not sure that that was HDR.
	I remember when I went to Scotland, I was heavy into the HDR.
	This is HDR.
	And you merge them all together and what you get is it almost looks like a painting.
	Beautiful. Everything's exposed properly.
	So super under, under.
	Exposed properly, over and super overexposed.
	And then you merge them together.
	This guy was just...
	With the cameras today, you imagine you get 30 frames per second?
	Film is 32 frames per second.
	This picture behind me is HDR as well.
	So... Look inside the backdrop.
	He's trying to get back on.
	I don't see him.
	I'll bring you back in when I see you.
	Let me maximize.
	There! Oh, no, that's not him.
	Hold on.
	Let me maximize this.
	Bring him in when I see you.
	Okay, bam.
	When we see him, we'll bring him back in here.
	Okay, so that's answering that question about the HDR.
	Now, let me go back to vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	So glad you got Michael on.
	That's from Allie Michael.
	Then we got RatPSO.
	Says, Dr. Martinson makes a compelling analysis of the audio recordings.
	The questions of three or four guns being fired may require additional expertise as the quality of cell phone recordings versus the TV recording is variable and analog sounds going through a digital vocoder, whatever that means, could be responsible for such tiny aberrations of 0.2 seconds in his review of the data.
	Martinson put out a good video yesterday.
	I mean, I watched it.
	And again, what's clear in my view...
	There's the echo, there's the distance, and he's measuring the distance based on the hypersonic, supersonic or hypersonic, I forget which one, and then the actual bullet.
	One thing is clear, for the first three or four shots, they sound one way, and then the next rapid five or six shots sound totally different.
	The only question then becomes, are there two shooters on the stage with the final shot of the sniper taking out the would-be assassin, or were the rapid pop-pop-pop-pop five shots Shots on the sniper but missed and then the one sniper took it out.
	So again, a lot of answers, a lot of questions to be answered and a lot of details because they'll have the forensics as to how many bullets on the scene.
	I mean, they have to get all of them.
	How many bullets on the corpse?
	They have to get all of them.
	And so why isn't that information being shared transparently?
	Because this is a cover-up of a botched setup of an assassination.
	That's why.
	Who wants to...
	Oh, he's coming back.
	There he is.
	Got it.
	Okay, I can hear you.
	I can't see you.
	Okay, we had a slight malfunction.
	Don't worry about it.
	While you do that, I'm going to bring something up.
	If anybody wanted to...
	I've got to get the right thing.
	This will just be mild entertainment until you get back up here.
	But I won't say that I called this, but Barnes has been certainly suggesting this, that Hillary Clinton, according to Alex Jones, is rumored to be replacing Biden on the ticket.
	I haven't watched the video entirely.
	This is like, welcome to hell.
	I just said, in this version of the simulation...
	Did Barnes predict that?
	Because if he predicted it, it's probably going to come true.
	Well, no.
	He said the only person who could replace Biden would be Hillary.
	Because everyone else is hated.
	It was Saturday night, and we saw The Hill, all the news reporting Hillary said to replace Joe Biden.
	I called Roger Stone.
	I called other sources.
	They said, yeah.
	That's the war.
	They're really going to try to replace Joe Biden in Chicago with Hillary Clinton, with all of her criminal activity, all of her background, all of this.
	So they are literally involved in a Democrat civil war, a power struggle over what public gets control.
	Biden had a closed election.
	He had a closed primary.
	That was all rigged.
	He stole the election four years ago, tried to take Trump off the ballot, and now Hillary is swooping in.
	To be the nominee above Big Mike, Gavin Newsom, Governor Whitmer.
	Big Mike.
	Kamala Harris.
	This is huge.
	It's all over the news.
	They're actually going to try to do this.
	This is how arrogant and crazy they are.
	So Hillary Clinton thinks with the deep state behind her that she's going to be there because they want her.
	She wants World War III with Russia.
	She said that.
	And Trump says he'll end the war.
	He talked to Zelensky today.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Stop World War III.
	We've got to get President Trump elected.
	That warmongering, evil monster Hillary.
	Thinks that she is about to swoop in and last minute be the nominee and then they try to steal the election.
	It's not going to work.
	They already tried to kill Trump.
	We're in epic times.
	Pray for Trump.
	Pray for America.
	Pray for the world.
	And I think Hillary's going to fail again.
	She was going to be the Madam President.
	Newsweek printed up all the magazines.
	She was the president.
	It's all a lie.
	Hillary Clinton, you'll never be president.
	Just like the neocons and the Bushes and all of them, you're done.
	Your time is over.
	America's coming together.
	God bless everybody.
	I'll be covering this all live at Real Alex Jones on X. Please follow me at Relox Jones on X, but pray for America, pray for peace, because this is dangerous.
	I cannot believe it.
	I had bought Hillary Clinton at four cents on predicted and then sold it because I'm obsessive-compulsive.
	Just do things for the sake of doing things.
	Holy kabri!
	Would that be funny in this version of the simulation?
	It's Hillary versus Trump 2.0.
	Okay. Newt Gingrich called me up before that first election.
	And he called me up and he's like, I was in my office in Thailand, in Chiang Mai.
	And I was like, how'd you get my number?
	But anyway, pleasure to talk with you, sir.
	And why are you calling me?
	And see, he was trying to rustle up support for Trump at the time.
	He wasn't president yet.
	And in the election, I was like...
	I was like, I don't trust Trump.
	Can't you get somebody else?
	But I'm never going to vote for anything named Clinton forever at this point.
	I wouldn't buy a vacuum with that name, right?
	And sorry for all the good Clintons out there, but you know where I'm going to.
	But I'm sure that 99% are great, but there's 1% that if you say something bad, you're going to get bulleted.
	But I was like, anyway, well...
	I hope you'll find somebody better than Trump, but I'm never voting for Clinton.
	And so that goes.
	So the first time, the first election, I actually checked beside Trump because there is no way I'm voting for Clinton.
	They're a known bad.
	For me, he was a suspected bad.
	They were a known bad.
	And that's how my mind was working.
	It still does.
	Let me read these real quick because they're going to disappear afterwards.
	Guns and Cafe says, Hi, Viva.
	Please have Michael explain to the viewers the link between the Darien Gap in Port Rotterdam.
	We might have to do a part two because I don't think we're going to have time to do that today.
	Yeah, because that would be...
	That's an entire episode and that's a separate subject and I don't want people getting angry talking about that.
	Michael, you'll come back up.
	No, I know it.
	And I know the answer and people don't appreciate it.
	Shinobi Kenobi says, you expect us to believe Trump staged this and sacrificed people's lives for this photo op?
	He's not talking to me.
	There are nutcases out there who think this is a stage by Trump, not a setup by the Democrat deep state machine.
	Cease fire on calling them nutcases because I will not discount anything until there either is no evidence that supports it or not sufficient evidence or it's been disproven.
	We know Trump is into wrestling.
	I'm not going to discount it.
	My first instinct when I saw him do the fist pump is, uh-oh, who's zooming who?
	You know Aretha Franklin's song, Who's Zooming?
	I do not know.
	Let's see if it withstands scrutiny because I instantly started asking, who's got video of his ear?
	That's why I started asking everybody to upload all the videos you've got, anything you've got.
	Even if you took the video two, three, four miles away, Upload it.
	Upload it to Brighteon.com because they are collecting a lot of it.
	Brighteon.com, Mike Adams, you know, Health Ranger.
	Upload it there and also upload it on X. Upload it on multiple platforms and tell everybody what you're opening up so that we can get our hive mind on it and we can let it percolate together.
	Because often when I send videos to people, they see stuff that I didn't see, right?
	And so even though I shot it.
	And I looked at it several 10 times or whatever, especially women.
	Women spot stuff.
	You always need a woman.
	They're unbelievable, man.
	And so if you have like 10 men in the room, you got a bunch of special forces guys and one woman, and she'll be like, well, didn't you guys see this?
	And we're like, nope.
	Now that you say it like that, and my initial response was, that's a very never-Trumper thing to say, but then I have to check my own bias and say, all right, if I'm a nutcase loony lefty who says there's no way my side would ever do this, so I'm going to find a creative way to blame it on them.
	Okay, fine.
	A setup, he's such an evil man, he doesn't care that an innocent man got killed and two others got shot.
	He sets it up.
	He was never in danger.
	He uses a blood pack.
	We haven't seen the injury of his ear yet.
	And he comes out the triumphant hero in all of this.
	There was definitely rifle fire.
	I think that's a done deal.
	I mean, there was clearly rifle fire.
	And clearly somebody died in other injuries.
	And clearly more than one rifle, right?
	Unknown how many rifles.
	There was the sniper, of course.
	There was...
	That first rifle appears to be at least three rifles, maybe four if you include the sniper.
	I don't know.
	Let's let the acoustic.
	That's another reason everybody needs to upload their, and I mentioned this before, upload all the videos and stills that you've got, and if you can, if you know exactly where you're at, leave the location data on, but go on Google Earth, find exactly where you're at, and pin that there, because you may have acoustic signatures if you were.
	You know, 100 yards from the stage in the right direction, we may go, hey, that's interesting.
	Well, I'm going to say this, and call me biased.
	It's untenable to suggest it was staged by Trump, because unless you're saying there was actually no bullet, that whole thing was staged.
	He was acting, my goodness.
	He went from being the biggest idiot on earth to being an Oscar award-winning actor.
	And in YouTube, who is it that said this here?
	Razvan Mehanu.
	Brandon Herrera just posted on YouTube the analysis of the shot, testing the assassination attempt of Donald Trump.
	It shows that the people saying it was staged are imbecilic.
	But we have to understand what they mean by staged.
	So this was bringing it back to another question.
	He's saying that the people that say it was staged were imbecilic?
	I would say he's not been around very much.
	Even if he's 80 years old, he hasn't been around very much if he thinks that.
	Because I think we're using the word staged and people are understanding it to mean Trump staged it versus it was a staged assassination attempt.
	I think we're using the same word differently.
	It was clearly an information war stage as well.
	I mean, that's obvious to me, but you got to keep in mind my background.
	I wish I could give people a library card to my memories so that when they hear what comes out of my mouth, they say, that sounds crazy.
	But if I could let you just look through my memories for a week, you would say, oh, I see why Mike said this.
	Because he saw it here and here and here and here, right?
	And that's the way that they do actually operate.
	So, I mean, it's not for those, like Alex Jones wouldn't say that's crazy.
	He might say that's wrong, but he certainly wouldn't say that's crazy.
	Yeah, I can appreciate that distinction.
	There's no between wrong and crazy.
	So a lot of people use the word crazy or that's wrong, right?
	I mean, it's not wrong and crazy are two different things, like the 1 8000th of a second.
	It could be wrong that he was there and had that setting to catch the watermelon going, right?
	That could be wrong.
	But it's not crazy to question it.
	You need to question it.
	You're a lawyer.
	You have to question it.
	See if it withstands that pressure of questioning, cross-examination.
	And if it does, then it makes that piece of evidence even stronger.
	Because then you start to go, okay, that is a data point we can rely on.
	We've really hit it hard.
	And it withstood all of our challenges, right?
	And we need to do that.
	Throw acid on it.
	See what's left.
	And it's fair enough.
	But also, I do think wrong and crazy.
	Some people use the word crazy as in what are you thinking and not.
	It's the difference between being wrong and being a liar.
	So you can float an idea and it can be wrong without you being malicious or disingenuous and having floated it.
	I can see how someone can think that.
	What would I think if it were Hillary Clinton?
	And she comes up with her fist pump.
	I'd say, first of all, that reaction is totally not what I would expect.
	Let me say what my reaction would have been.
	I would have been...
	Check those rooftops.
	I would have been taking control of the Secret Service.
	I'd have been like, you bunch of clowns.
	Hey, I'm in charge now.
	I'm the president.
	Oh, wait.
	They'd say, no, you're not.
	I'd be like, okay, pretend I'm president.
	Come with me.
	I would have been counterattacking.
	I mean, I'm only half joking.
	No, I know.
	I get it.
	And I do appreciate it.
	Gag says, for Michael Young, by the way, your last name, where is it from?
	Actually, it may be from France.
	There's a Yon village there.
	But actually, my mother's side, some of my grandparents were shipwrecked on Bermuda in 1609 on the way to Jamestown.
	We know that because they're in a book.
	And, you know, all the research that we've done.
	Actually, yeah, they're the Easons.
	My name is Yon, but my mother's side, the Easons, they got to Jamestown in 1610.
	Actually, you know the Shakespeare play, The Tempest?
	Was based on the story of their shipwreck on Bermuda.
	That's why Bermuda is the longest British colony still, because of that shipwreck.
	Anyway, where is my name from?
	That appears to be from, there's a village called Yon in France, but we don't really know where that derives from originally.
	Okay, very cool.
	Beyond the voter numbers and potential election gaming, I believe part of the UN, in my opinion, migration operation in the US and Europe is aimed at diluting the nation state as a concept itself.
	Absolutely. We don't own our country.
	Someone else does.
	Or at least it's open for everybody.
	Oh, they're trying to destroy it openly.
	They don't hide it.
	If illegals are not naturalized and given the same benefits as citizens, conceptual nationality and citizenship is diluted.
	A globalist gain.
	Thoughts? I think we agree with that.
	You know, I'm sitting here rereading Plato's Republic.
	Anybody read that?
	I mean...
	When I studied philosophy a long time ago, but...
	Yeah, and also the Machiavellians.
	I've been studying this book.
	It's really interesting.
	And it's about...
	I remember, you know, years ago, I would go for long walks and I would...
	And contemplate, like, you know, our democracy, or it's not a democracy, of course, our republic...
	Can't really last in the form that it's in.
	Organizational structure dictates outcome, right?
	I got that from an army colonel, rest in peace, Colonel Johnson, Al Johnson.
	And he told me that one time and he said, you know, Michael, organizational structure dictates outcome.
	And I said, wait, that was a brilliant statement.
	And so we started talking about it for hours, right?
	You know, and what we've got, the organizational structure that we have is built for a certain type of people that tend to be more educated.
	I got three books.
	Unfortunately, the light's sitting on top of them.
	But these are Benjamin Franklin.
	I found him in an antique bookstore in Tokyo a few weeks ago from 1806.
	Of course, he died in 1790.
	He's one of our founding fathers, of course, Benjamin Franklin.
	And he's talking.
	It's three books.
	And I bought them.
	And I can't believe I got a light sitting on top of his books.
	I just realized that.
	And so, well, heck with it.
	I'm going to get him.
	And so, light will just be somewhere else.
	In these beautiful books, he goes on, you know, they were so classically educated back then.
	You know, he talks about, you know, the various things about our formation of the government and all this just beautiful writing.
	Fold out maps and fold out diagrams and the magic square and the magic circle and all that.
	And, you know, there's lightning experiments and electricity.
	But the bottom line is, I think based on just years of study, I mean serious study in books and just seeing so many countries I've been to, 98, spent most of my life by far out of the United States.
	I can see where our system of government was developed for people that are more educated than the average is now.
	These millions of people that are coming across the border, I'm down there with them.
	I've been across the entire U.S. southern border.
	I was just up in Canada on the border as well.
	And I've been down all over the place.
	I've been watching this in Lithuania and Morocco and all of the Netherlands.
	Ireland. I mean, when you flood these places with people that are coming from villages that don't have running water, their minds are...
	And by the way, you're importing in complete tribes.
	You're not importing like individuals.
	A lot of Americans that are naive and Europeans that are naive about this, they don't realize when you're bringing these people in, you're bringing in actual tribes, right?
	They have their own systems of government.
	They have serious OPSEC within themselves.
	In other words, let's say operational security.
	Right? They will not...
	Their tribe is their ant bed, right?
	And so, you know, for instance, I was in Ireland, I don't know, a year and a half, two years ago, and I was talking with this one Nigerian, and I said, what tribe are you from?
	Igbo or...
	What tribe are you from?
	And we started talking about his tribe and all that stuff.
	I said, when you come here, I already knew the answer, but I always ask anyway.
	When you come here, do you...
	Seek out other Nigerians, or do you seek out people from your tribe?
	He's like, tribe, of course, because that's what they do.
	You look at Iraq, where I spent two years, you look at the tribes, you know, one of the biggest tribes is Al-Jaburi.
	It is the biggest tribe in Iraq, right?
	Now, in the Al-Jaburi tribe, there's a lot of Sunni and a lot of Shia, right?
	And I ask many of them, Sunni and Shia Al-Jaburi.
	What is more important to you?
	Because on the TV, the big war is between Protestants and Catholics.
	It's between Sunni and Shia, right?
	Sunni and Shia.
	It's like the Protestant and Catholic equivalent, like almost direct equivalent, right?
	And I ask them, if there is an Al-Jaburi who is Sunni while you're Shia, is he your enemy?
	They're like, oh no, of course not.
	He's my tribe.
	So he's my brother or my sister.
	We will treat them with respect of somebody in the tribe, unless they do crimes within the tribe.
	And then, of course, it's game one.
	But so tribe comes first.
	Likewise, over in Afghanistan, I love anthropology, by the way.
	So I'm always going, how do you do the law here and stuff like that?
	And so, by the way, let me say something about that.
	I was in this village in Afghanistan, and we're...
	50 miles beyond the power line line.
	You know, you've got the tree line in the Himalayas.
	You've got the power line line beyond electricity, right?
	And so we're out there.
	And, you know, all the village leaders, they have their beards and stuff.
	And I said, you know, the kids love to moonwalk for you.
	I don't care if I'm in the Darien Gap with the Embra Indians or the Kuna Indians or whatever.
	The kids will just magically see you and start moonwalking.
	Michael Jackson, right?
	And they do it in Afghanistan.
	They did it in Iraq.
	They do it all over the world.
	And so these little village kids, so they know who Michael Jackson is.
	So I said to the village leader, I said, you know that Michael Jackson passed away, sir?
	And he's like, oh.
	The Michael.
	The Michael.
	We shall miss the Michael.
	We shall cry a million Pashtun tears for the Michael.
	Please tell your people that we...
	You know, honor him or something like that.
	Everybody loves Michael Jackson.
	You'd think way out there that in Taliban land, this guy's clearly Taliban.
	You know what I mean?
	And they know anyway.
	But what I'm getting to is, let's go to the Pashtun people.
	That's where I was going to, and then Michael Jackson popped into my mind.
	But the Pashtun people, before they were Muslims, a lot of people think they're Jews.
	And a lot of Jewish scholars think that.
	I work with Jewish scholars like seven days a week, right?
	I mean, my main research partner is Jewish.
	That's why when you see people on my Twitter, by the way, people ask, who's JBS?
	There's one person that has publishing rights on my Twitter, and that's JBS.
	So you'll always see JBS if it's him.
	One time we were in Tokyo, and he's probably watching.
	It was his dad, actually, the colonel, that told me, Michael, organizational structure.
	So we were in Tokyo, and we're in this dimly lit place and leather seats, and he's drinking the bourbon like Barnes loves to do, and he's smoking a cigar.
	And I'm like, I said at one point, I was like, you really are, because we were plotting on something to do an information op, to fight China, right?
	And he's smoking and everything.
	I said, you really are the Jew behind the scenes.
	So ever since then, you know, he always posts his JBS.
	And because he's got that big Spock brain, you know, he studies like crazy.
	In fact, he gave me this book.
	But the point is, is that the Pashtuns, it's believed that they may be a lost tribe.
	Same with the Kurds, by the way.
	And so when I ask some Pashtun, some will actually say that.
	And Pashtun Wali, which is their...
	Pakhtun Wali is like the Pakhtun Way, right?
	That is their social, their anthropological firmware for how they operate with each other.
	Pakhtun Wali is like right out of the Old Testament.
	And one Jewish scholar, he's on YouTube talking about this.
	He's like, this is Old Testament.
	Those Pashtuns were Jews.
	And so this is a Jewish scholar saying this.
	And then they became Muslims later.
	So when I talk with a lot of Pashtuns about this, I would say, are you a lost tribe of Israel?
	And some would say yes.
	Some would say no, no, no.
	Of course not.
	Like the Kurds.
	Some would say yes.
	Some would say no.
	But what's interesting, I would also ask them, what's more important to you, Pakhtun Wali or Islam?
	A lot of people will say, of course, Islam, but not them.
	The Pashtun people.
	There'll be some Pashtun people watching this, and you can confirm or deny what I'm saying in the comments, right?
	And your name better be Pashtun, because I'll be able to recognize it.
	And that is, they take Pashtun Wali before Islamic law.
	Pashtun law first.
	Like, hospitality, and guarding women, and all these other things, right?
	And they're hardcore on it.
	And so that's quite interesting, isn't it?
	So what I'm getting to is all these people that are coming through as they're coming through with their own laws and their own ways, and they're quite serious people.
	Actually, I liked Afghans quite a lot.
	I got along really well with Afghans because I get along with farmers in every country I go to, and most of them are farmers.
	So at one point, I'm out there with these literally Taliban, and I'm like, why are we even fighting these guys?
	I like them, you know?
	I mean, we just...
	I mean, they're who they are.
	I mean, they're basically brown rednecks.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, they're just who they are.
	Just leave them alone, right?
	And we're not going to come here.
	I mean, are we going to accept if somebody rushes in here to change us?
	That's what's happening now.
	Let me go back to religion again real quick.
	With a lot of this invasion that's going on, a lot of people look at the religions to try to understand a foreign culture.
	That's the wrong direction.
	From Mexico, I spent a lot of time in Mexico.
	They're not the same as the Catholics from Poland, or the Catholics in Italy, or the Catholics in Germany, or the Catholics here in Japan, right?
	The Catholics here in Japan, if you want to understand their behavior patterns, you have to look at the culture.
	And then the paint job on top of that is the religion, right?
	And they fuse together, of course.
	Everybody kept saying, you have to study Islam if you're going to understand them.
	I'm like, no, no, no.
	I live with these people.
	You have to study their culture.
	When I lived in Poland, you think I'm studying Catholicism?
	No, I have to study Polish people and their history.
	I know you love history.
	I saw one of your programs two or three years ago, and you're by this river, and you're saying as you got older, you really enjoy history.
	We're in the same boat.
	If you don't study history, you have no chance of understanding what's going on.
	Joe Rogan says it all the time.
	Once you see the path broadly, you see it in all things.
	And that's what history is about.
	I don't read books, though, because they put me to sleep, so I've got to listen on audio.
	And I remember that.
	That was at Harper's Ferry.
	You don't have to read.
	You just have to study history.
	Those are original antique books.
	Oh, yeah.
	These are from 1806.
	He died in 1790, but here I'll show you the title.
	Man, I found Commodore Perry's original report to Congress.
	Commodore Perry is the one that opened up Japan in 1854.
	And I found, it's four books.
	It's unbelievable.
	I bought them.
	And I told Mike Flynn and I told these generals and admirals, I'm like, you're not going to believe what I found in this antique bookstore in Japan.
	And all of them are like...
	I hope you didn't leave them there.
	I'm like, are you kidding?
	They're sitting here under my hand right now.
	I bought them, of course.
	But this one, if you can see the splash page, it's 1806.
	Let me take myself out of the lake.
	Is that in focus?
	Let me see if I can do this.
	There we go.
	Is that in focus?
	Yep, 1806.
	That's amazing.
	I love old books, man.
	Listen to this.
	He's talking about smallpox inoculations killing people more than they're worth.
	He's talking about that in the 1770s.
	I found this other book from Britain from 1889, right?
	And this British doctor had gone through like 40 years, I think.
	I read the whole book.
	So he went through this from 1889, and he's talking about the smallpox vaccinations and, you know, how they're killing and they're not worth it, and it's a big scam.
	This is 1889.
	And this is, he wrote about that in the 1770-ish or so, right?
	Or 60s or 70s.
	But I found it in this book.
	These books are unbelievable, man.
	If you can get these three books, you better jump on it.
	Let me, by the way, I'm going to read this here.
	The Leaderless Christian Militia Thanks You.
	This is Michael Yan, the LCM Thanks You.
	And I think this is going to be a good summary of what you just said, Michael.
	I'll see if I can read the whole thing down here.
	Viva, don't read this unless you want.
	Of course, I'm going to read it.
	Just a follow-up.
	Tribalism, as Jan describes it, is what a process like naturalization aims to ameliorate.
	We welcome your traditions.
	We welcome your race.
	We welcome your faith.
	But we have a common baseline that keeps this society going.
	To cut that short, to flood the country with illegals outside the process, is to invite loyalties that fracture the common understanding a looming global managerial technocracy thrives on disconnectedness of people.
	A thousand percent.
	I agree with that.
	The thing is, it's not going to work if you bring in huge numbers.
	You'll create what's called anthroinsula, human islands, right?
	I had to invent that term because there was no term for it.
	I've talked with so many anthropologists.
	I'm like, look, I travel around the world and I see these little pockets of people that have their old ways, like, say, Germans out in the middle of nowhere or Japanese that are speaking an old dialect somewhere or Americans.
	I watched this documentary about these Americans down in Brazil, right?
	And they had left in the Civil War in the early 1860s, and they didn't want to be involved in it, so they went to Brazil.
	And they're talking in the dialect that my grandparents spoke in.
	They're speaking at the same cadence.
	They're talking about the same things.
	They're talking about, you know, sitting on the porch and stuff, like we used to.
	And so, I mean, so the thing is, it's an anthro insula, a human island.
	If you have...
	A pocket of people, say Germans going to...
	They would charter entire ships from Germany, take the whole village and all the tools and the dog, and they would go off to Texas or something, New Brown Falls or something.
	You know what I mean?
	They would make these towns and they would all speak German until the wars came and then it became unfashionable to speak German, right?
	And so, to put it mildly.
	And so, you know, and so they...
	But the bottom line is they had their own...
	Anthro Insula.
	Like Mennonites.
	I went down to Belize this year or last year.
	I went down there with Masako Ganaha and Ann VanderSteel and some others.
	And we went to...
	I was looking for Mennonites because I wanted to talk with Mennonites.
	Because I wanted to know...
	They have what I call meta structures.
	I just have to make up these names because I see things that I can't find in any books.
	And they're meta structures.
	A meta structure meaning...
	Mennonites who are in the United States and Canada, and now they're moving down to Suriname and some other places.
	And I wanted to talk with them about what's going on.
	I wanted to see their perspective.
	Now, the Mennonites in Belize, so we're out there, and they're like going on the horses and buggies, and they're real nice.
	They speak German, so I can communicate with them because I speak German still quite well.
	But they're speaking native Deutsch, which is low German.
	So when they're talking with each other, I can only pick up maybe a third.
	But they can understand me.
	I speak high German.
	They can understand everything I say.
	But they are living out there with no electricity.
	Huge farm.
	They call them camps.
	But the Belizean government tried to make them jab, right?
	And they're like, no, no, no.
	But the thing is, the Mennonites create a lot of the food for Belize, right?
	And it's like really good food.
	So the Mennonites are like, we'll just leave because Keep in mind, these are people that live meta, like Kurds, like a lot of Jews do, like a lot of Chinese do, like a lot of Germans do, actually.
	And so they have these meta structures.
	Germans, I think their meta structure is kind of probably falling apart.
	But a lot of Jews, they retain their meta structure.
	So when I go to different countries, I'll talk with Jews in Guatemala.
	I had dinner with some recently, earlier this year, I think.
	And Panama, the same thing.
	So there's all these meta structures where it's like a global country.
	The biggest diaspora.
	By the way, it's Kurds, I think.
	Maybe 40 million.
	Nobody knows.
	But the bottom line is Mennonites.
	I wanted to talk with them.
	Like, why are you leaving Belize?
	I think I knew the answer because that's why I flew there.
	But I wanted to hear it from them.
	And it was because of the death jabs.
	They didn't want them, right?
	And they weren't going to do it.
	So they were like, well, we'll leave.
	And so they started sending people out to...
	Suriname and other places to scout out a new place to live.
	And when the Belizean government realized, hey, we're going to lose our Mennonites who don't cause any trouble.
	I mean, the crime level is practically zero.
	You know who the Mennonites are who have broken the rules in Mennonite land.
	They make them not wear shoes or something for a week.
	Mennonite walking around barefoot, he did something wrong.
	And he glanced at a girl a little too long or something.
	But so they were going to leave.
	And then the Belizean government was like, okay, you don't have to take the jabs.
	But now, like the Mennonites that I was talking with, they're going down to Suriname right now.
	They're building the camp right now.
	I found one article recently, and there's an information more clearly against the Mennonites.
	Because they're very self-sufficient.
	And like the Amish.
	I love Amish.
	I've spent a lot of time with the Amish.
	If you can have Amish or Mennonite neighbors, you're doing pretty good.
	But the Mennonites we were talking with in Belize, they're starting a new camp in Suriname.
	But you can see there's articles in the papers like, hey, they're doing this, they're doing that.
	They're trying to make them into like they're bad guys.
	When was the last time you saw anything bad from a Mennonite or Amish?
	Although Mennonites, you know, they're pretty well known for smuggling anything.
	But, all right.
	I know you're not watching this, Mennonites, because you're not on this program.
	No, I was just going to look at the shooting.
	There was a shooting in the Amish area.
	I forget when it was.
	West Nichols Mines, Amish, 15 years ago.
	Oh, they will throw down.
	There's Amish with guns.
	I mean, there's Amish that are straight up armed to the teeth.
	There's no question about that.
	I can say this from...
	But this is...
	I mean, it's going to be a good point to stop because we need to do the part two, which is going to be...
	Your experiences at the Darien Gap and the geopolitical relevance as to what's going on with the immigration, what it's facilitating.
	I want to pick your brain because I know there's just no time today to talk about the H.I. Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.
	And Alejandro Mayorkas, whether or not these immigrants or these asylum seekers that the H.I.A.S.
	purports to be helping are actually asylum seekers or economic migrants.
	The Darien Gap, it's global importance.
	What China is doing in terms of facilitating, building it out, shipping people out there.
	I was there when Mayorkas came.
	I got tipped off by a congressman and he was coming, so I waited for four days.
	I was like, if he's going to Panama, I bet he'll go to Darien Province, not Darien Gap, but Darien Province, and I bet he'll land right here.
	So I just waited for four days.
	The next thing you know...
	For Blackhawks land.
	I'm like, bingo.
	And I got it all.
	I got perfect footage, drone footage, the whole works.
	And I knew that anecdote because I had watched you on a podcast from four months ago.
	I mean, I don't want to push you in terms of your schedule.
	Can you come back on sooner than later to talk about the day?
	Yeah, because I'm just fasting.
	I'm not meeting anybody here.
	I'm just like, this is a rare break when all I'm doing is, I'm reading Benjamin, man.
	I'm reading books.
	We're going to do it.
	We're going to do it.
	We'll do it next week, if you're good.
	At some point in the upcoming week.
	Let's do it.
	Okay, amazing.
	Now, what we're going to do here, I'm going to end this stream.
	We're going to say our proper goodbyes.
	And Sunday night show is coming up tomorrow.
	Locals, I'm going to do something in Locals specifically before then.
	Sometime tomorrow, because I still have the chats and the tips to read from last Sunday.
	So first of all, where can everybody find you?
	And where do you want to direct everybody?
	Before people go their separate ways for the Saturday night?
	I'm on Substack.
	And Michael Yon, of course, my last name is Yon.
	Yankee, Oscar, November, Y-O-N.
	And I'm on X every single day.
	So I go on X pretty much every day.
	What's your Substack?
	I'm going to put it in the description afterwards.
	My name, Michael Yon.
	I have a website too, michaelyon.com.
	But mostly I publish on...
	Actually, what I'm mostly doing is behind the scenes.
	I'm helping others.
	The reason you see Darien Gap got blown out in the public was because I brought like 50 or 60 people to the Darien Gap.
	I took Congressman down.
	I took Brett Weinstein.
	I took Chris Martinson and Vandersteel.
	And Masako Ganaha has been there over a dozen times.
	I took a lot of people down.
	And Anthony Rubin.
	Very serious man.
	Muckraker.com, Ben Berkwam, Oscar Blue.
	Oscar Blue is a subject matter expert.
	He's become a subject matter expert on Darien Gap.
	Oscar Blue, he's a very important man to listen to.
	He's a Mexican journalist, and he is really hardcore on Darien now.
	I was the first one to take him down there.
	And yeah, it's quite interesting.
	Amazing. I'm going to give everybody the links to your Twitter and your sub stack.
	Michael, it's amazing.
	I didn't know it was exact.
	There's so much more to discuss, which we're going to do.
	We're going to do it this week.
	Let me just put the links here so that when I finish this...
	I was trying to read some comments, but they do go fast.
	Oh, they go fast.
	He said his Bible has Palestine in it as well.
	Oh, man, I got this Bible from 18-something.
	Anyway, and it's got these maps and stuff.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's a giant Bible because it's got all these maps and extra...
	Things that's not actually Bible.
	And it's got all the...
	It's unbelievable, man.
	I read a little bit.
	I'm not going to pull it out here today, but it's beautiful.
	It's got these drawings and stuff.
	I only view these things from a collector perspective.
	Not touching it with your hands because you're like a coin collection or a money...
	No, no.
	Just wash your hands.
	Don't wear gloves.
	Wash your hands.
	Just wash them really good.
	Let me make sure I didn't forget anything that I want to add.
	Okay, so we've got thank you, Michael Yon, and thank you, Viva, for the interview, says Geg.
	And then, Viva, I thought I was done learning.
	Thank you, Michael Yon.
	The past is going to be our future with our current division.
	Well done, brothers.
	LCM. That's from Sigmam Gitao.
	And the other one's from Geg, and I think I've gotten everything.
	Michael? Stay here and we'll talk for a couple of minutes.
	Everyone out there, Sunday night, tomorrow night, six o'clock.
	I'll put out a short video and I'll have a local thing.
	So we're going to end it.
	Michael, thank you very much.
	Part two coming up next week.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	Enjoy the weekend, everybody.

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