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Dec. 23, 2023 - Viva & Barnes
23:11
Another Stream with Pantelis - Back to Canada End-Of-Year Wrap-Up!
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Hello?
It's not that cold as the rushing in view.
Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.
Hello?
No sound now?
Was there sound before?
No, there's no sound.
It's just that he had it off.
No, no, no, no, I don't think this is good.
I'm just streaming through my phone.
Hello?
Yeah, it's good.
I can hear the sound.
It sounds good.
I can hear now.
As long as your laptop doesn't die, it'll stay on Rumble the whole time.
Test, test.
Sound good, huh?
This is what it looks like when you do a podcast.
Now I can hear myself.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Just remember to record on the 810 and we'll be good.
Oh, no.
We're already recording.
I already set it up.
Okay, mic check.
Do I want the mic like this?
You can hear me.
If you decide to get all sexy.
And if you get thirsty during the podcast, Matthew's got access to water bottles.
All right, man.
Let's see.
Okay, and we'll give the disclaimer.
Hold on a second.
Get my hair in here.
Oh, these headphones are nice and comfortable.
Thank you, Dougie.
We'll get you loosened up, Pentelis.
Yeah, I'm so pissed.
Okay, lower it like this.
Like this.
Point it up.
Okay.
There you go.
How do you feel?
Sound is good?
It looks good.
Yeah, we can see him.
Let's see.
Matthew's sitting in the console.
Yeah, we're all good.
Audio.
And my voice is coming in clear.
And we're streaming.
All right, so everything you wanted for Christmas that you just got, Viva.
What was that?
Bottled water?
Bottled water, hangout, stream.
Man.
Welcome back, dog.
Thank you for having me back.
So now we're live on the internet everywhere now.
We're live on the internet on Rumble.
I'm going to put everything up on YouTube later because I don't want to take a chance of screwing things up.
So people understand what happened is Poseidon was a victim of a hit and run.
Well, your crowd knows who Poseidon is.
My crowd might not.
He produces this podcast.
He normally sits there.
Now, he's alive.
Everything's fine.
Just it was a hit and run.
The woman ran away, but he got her plates.
In the meantime, while his car was totaled...
This was going to be very simple.
I have his replacement, Matthew, here.
The problem is the laptop he uses to set everything up, he forgot his own password, Poseidon.
So we couldn't log into it.
So now it was just problem after problem.
Then we're like, okay, we'll use your laptop to at least go on to your Rumble.
I didn't bring my charger.
So it's just been one thing after another.
So if anybody's not watching it live, which camera?
I'm looking at that camera.
Well, if they're watching it later.
Well, my Rumble stream might go dead if my computer goes dead.
But it's going to be on my YouTube channel later today.
We're going to put this as like our Christmas special.
So it'll be on the YouTube channel.
It'll be on Spotify, iTunes, all that shit today.
And to make it worthwhile, I'll take my shirt off by the end of the show.
Goddamn right.
You've got to watch the whole thing.
So what the hell's been happening, dude?
How long has it been?
Oh, it's been a while.
I don't know when the last episode we did together.
We talk a lot, but I don't know when the last episode we did together was.
I was in town over the summer.
That's when.
So then it's six months ago.
Let's see, what's happened in the meantime?
The world's fallen off the deep end.
Canada's fallen off the deep end.
You're following the biggest news of the week, at least, for Trump out of the States.
The Colorado thing?
The Colorado thing.
Okay, so I commented on this on my French podcast.
I said this is a very strange thing because...
So America does something that I love.
They like freedom of speech, for democracy.
But this is so oddly undemocratic because it comes...
A few days after, it was announced that during the January 16th, it was like a lot of provocateurs were there, FBI agents, CIA.
So you can't announce that maybe we did this on purpose to fuck with this guy's image and then say because of this thing, we're not allowing him to be on the ballot.
Because you just said that thing.
You manufactured it.
So then how the hell is that a reason to get this guy off the bat?
Isn't that crazy?
Everything about it from beginning to end is crazy.
What I just said, does that make sense or no?
No, it makes total sense.
It's what I said.
It was my New Year's prediction last year.
In the next year, it's going to be confirmed that January 6th was a setup.
And I'm using a setup like Vivek Ramaswamy during the debates, the fourth one, used the term setup or inside job.
Yeah, inside job.
Everyone went after him.
It was like, what do you mean it's an inside job?
We know that there were X amount of agents.
Don't call them agent provocateur.
Just call them whatever.
They're on January 6th.
What they were doing, we don't know.
How many there were, we don't know because they refused to answer the question.
We know that FBI agents and informants had infiltrated the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers in the weeks and months leading up to January 6th.
I mean, this is confirmed.
That's how they got the convictions for seditious conspiracy in those trials.
So we know intelligence, security, whatever you want to call it, the FBI, CIA apparatus.
They knew what was...
We know that now.
The kangaroo court committee there that...
You know, the January 6th committee, they made their report.
It was an unlawfully formed committee, didn't meet quorum, didn't meet the requirements for a bipartisan committee.
They come out with their uncontested sort of one side of the story, propagandized literally, edited evidence literally.
And then this Colorado court where they're trying to get Trump off the ballot for insurrection under the 14th Amendment, third somehow.
They do it.
What's amazing about the Colorado decision, people should, I mean, I've done a three-part series this week about...
Don't panic because Trump's name is still on the ballot, despite what the headlines say.
Analyzing how absurd the majority decision was, 4-3.
And then analyzing the dissenting decision, which basically, you know, was a judicial evisceration of the majority.
Now, what the hell was I just about to say?
Oh, Colorado wants to get him off the ballot.
The lower court in Colorado didn't even remove Trump from the ballot.
Under insurrection, the lower court judge, it was a Judge Wallace, appointed by the governor, all Democrats, the governor's Soros funded.
She says, Trump participated in insurrection.
Bear in mind, this is a civil trial coming to a criminal determination.
How?
Well, not criminally, because no one was charged, let alone convicted of insurrection.
So how?
Miriam Webster, insurrection, fighting up against the machine.
But that's what we're all doing.
That's what we're doing right now.
Not just, not just.
Well, first of all...
Protest, and this is one of my observations, protest is technically insurrection under this, any protest.
Protest Kavanaugh hearings, insurrection.
You're trying to prevent the government from doing what the government's supposed to do, congressional hearings, yada yada.
But the lower court decision said, yes, he participated in insurrection, but the 14th Amendment, subparagraph 3, doesn't apply to the president because the provision says, if you've engaged in insurrection, whatever you order, and it lists the officers of the government who are covered by that provision and does not mention the president.
So the lower court's like, all right, he participated in insurrection.
How a civil court can come to a criminal finding?
You know, it's democracy.
It's different with a capital D. Are you also using participated very loosely?
Oh, well, then how did he engage in insurrection?
Because part of the accusation of how he participated or engaged in insurrection, he didn't call in the National Guard.
So that's like passive engagement.
He didn't call in the National Guard.
It was never his authority to do that.
And remember, for those who were around on January 6th, there was talk that he was going to declare martial law.
Call in the military and by coup, by force, maintain power.
Had he called in the National Guard when it hadn't been requested by Washington, D.C. and the authorities who have the authority to call it in, that would have been the coup that they wanted.
So he doesn't do what they wanted him to do.
Had he done it, they would have charged him with coup, insurrection, whatever.
And by not doing it, they deem that to be engaging insurrection.
So the lower court says he engaged in insurrection, a decision that she has no business coming to, but...
Not included under, not covered by the 14th Amendment, paragraph 3. And then the Court of Appeal or the higher court, Supreme Court, seven judges, four of them say, yeah, we don't disagree with that finding of fact.
He engaged in insurrection.
We define insurrection under the dictionary, define engaged very loosely.
But we disagree with the lower court's finding of law, where we're allowed to intervene freely, and say he is covered by the 14th Amendment.
Disqualified.
But we recognize that our decision is so in uncharted territories, we're going to stay, pause, suspend our own decision.
Until January 4th, Trump will petition the Supreme Court and we're going to stay our decision indefinitely until further mandate from the higher courts.
So what they basically said is outlandish setting a principle in law.
Which is not going to stand.
I don't.
If it stands, it's the end of America.
Yeah, it's so crazy.
Any given state can say we unilaterally, by our own discretion, declare disqualification of a presidential candidate and we're going to disenfranchise the rest of the country.
That's what they're doing.
You kick someone off the ballot in any given state.
They can't be elected.
You're disenfranchising the rest of the country.
By the way, Washington itself.
Nice city.
A little weird.
I was there last month.
I joked with my cab driver, my Uber driver.
I asked him.
He was a Somalian guy.
And I said, yo, you stormed the Capitol, dog?
What did he say?
He started laughing.
He's like, no, but I could see it from where I live.
He goes, I was watching it.
I go, were you scared for your life?
He's like, no.
It looked crazy, he goes.
It looked insane, but it was like a protest.
It wasn't what they were saying.
No one was beating anyone up here in the streets.
It was just there.
People were protesting.
Did you ask him the most intimate question, how he votes?
I didn't ask how he votes, but he did tell me he did not like the politicians.
He called them all satanic pedophiles, which I started screaming in the back of the car.
I was laughing because he wasn't sure who I was.
He wasn't sure what I was doing in Washington.
So he's like, because I was thinking he's a good city.
And then finally I broke him when he's like...
It's okay.
What about the politicians?
And he looks at me and he's like, I don't fucking like them because they're a bunch of satanic pedophiles.
And I started laughing.
Not just because, you know, Podesta gets convicted for sexting Anthony.
No, Podesta didn't get convicted.
It was Wiener.
No, they are a bunch of satanic pedophiles.
I mean, there's no other way to say it.
I just don't think it's like...
I don't like how aggressive you are towards them.
They're artists.
I saw them produce a gay porno last week.
These are good people.
Can you imagine the guy?
First of all, he had to book that Senate room.
People don't understand.
It's funny, in the booking, you book it online, you have to have a reason.
Who is it?
I did a...
I did a podcast with The Unusual Suspects.
I don't know if you know the gang.
They're Vinny Oceana at PatrickBetDavid.
They're stand-up comics as well.
Okay, I never met him.
PatrickBetDavid, I had a correspondence in direct message from back in the day on Twitter.
I was thinking, actually, of...
I'll talk to you after you have been writing.
Vinny Oceana hosts the show called The Unusual Suspects.
Is he Armenian?
Say it again.
Is he Armenian?
Well, he says he reads the original...
Aramaic, so I forget exactly.
Okay, so he's Assyrian, probably.
Yes, Assyrian, a thousand percent.
Oh, okay, very cool.
And I don't know if he's half Italian, half Assyrian, but I don't know.
I like those guys.
Well, and I don't know if that's my own prejudgment.
Like, his name is Vinny, so I think he's got to be Italian.
Fucking Vinny, bro.
He had a great fit.
He's like, can you imagine being the guy?
He's like, I want to do you.
Sorry, let's book a room.
He's like, oh, we're at a hotel.
I was like, no, the Senate.
His bit was great.
They had to book that room.
The guy booked it under whoever senator he serves.
And do you imagine?
I asked another guy, Tarek Johnson, one of the January 6th police officers.
I interviewed him, and he too believes it was all Lee Hop.
Everyone should watch that interview that I did.
But he confirmed over Twitter, there are no security cameras in that Senate hearing room.
I don't know why.
So they book it, and they get in there, and they know what they can do without being caught by others.
The laws are normally passed here.
It's like, what are you saying?
He posted it to Instagram.
I didn't know this.
He posted it to his private stories, his small circle of friends.
It's not just that they did it.
It's not just that they did it with impunity.
They did it with this sense of...
What's the word?
Like protection or...
They won't even get in trouble for it because it's so standard.
This is just what we do.
Like, oh yeah, we can do whatever the hell we want in here.
You post crazy, fun memes with your friends in a closed circle.
Never butt sex.
It's never the one thing like I'm banging a dude in the ass and post this on Instagram of all fucking places.
It's so crazy.
It's not even the nature or...
Sexual orientation.
You don't post sex vids.
It's like you don't do...
Sneaking around the library.
You don't post that.
First of all, you don't shoot that because once it's on your flipping phone, anybody...
It's done.
They're going to catch you.
Anyway, so it's hilarious, but it's...
Degenerates, pedophiles, and satanic...
That's what the cab driver told me.
This guy's awesome.
He probably knows.
I mean, the things that he must have seen in the back of his taxi working in D.C. I hope not.
He didn't say anything, but he wasn't a big fan, but he laughed when he was stormed the Capitol, Doug.
And we kept saying that with the crew that we were there with.
We'd meet people, and they'd be like, what are you doing?
And we're like, we came to stormed the Capitol.
And they'd be like, don't joke about that.
Now, for people watching on Rumble now on my platform, they don't know who you are, but now we know each other well, Penn.
Tell us, who are you?
Who am I?
I'm a comedian.
I'm a comedian, podcaster.
I'm Pantelis.
Greek, Canadian, comedian.
I perform here in the States as well.
I've been on Rogan, Two Drink Minimum.
We started on Compound Media and now we're independent on YouTube everywhere else.
Me and Mike Ward.
I guess Canada's only real podcast.
Chris Ramsey is now a third Mike on that as well.
So the three of us are hosts on Two Drink Minimum.
And Mike Ward.
I mean, my crowd will know who Mike Ward is.
Mike Ward is the only person in Canada that's ever actually fought for free speech and won.
It was a decades-long battle that went all the way to the Supreme Court.
Just edged out over a joke.
They were trying to sue him over a joke.
They tried.
Actually, it went to the Human Rights Show.
It was this whole fucking thing.
He's got a good bit about it in his hour.
Excellent.
So I do that.
I do comedy.
I'm one of Canada's first podcasters.
I started in 2010 when people told me...
You're wasting your time.
No one's going to listen to internet radio.
It's the only thing people are listening to now.
And also I'm very outspoken because in Canada you're not allowed to talk shit.
People get mad at me when I talk about...
YouTube's fucked with me for years because I talk a lot of shit about Trudeau.
So it's mostly Americans that...
You've made the decision.
You've been here now.
I've been gone for a year and a half.
Come back and can witness the madness myself.
You stayed here.
Has it gotten better or worse since the world has opened up?
For comedy in general, but for life in Quebec and Canada?
So the good thing is, I do a lot of French comedy also, and Quebecers are very into, like, French Canadians are very into the arts.
So they protect them as much as they could, so that's good.
They let me say whatever I want to say.
French Canadians, in general, fans, I do whatever the fuck I want.
I just, I'm always getting into some kind of trouble.
That's the thing.
It's the only problem here that I have is that someone's always going to get pissed off and say something.
But in general, I try to make it work.
But there's no real freedom of speech in Canada.
It doesn't exist.
I'm sure you're not looking at Bill C-11.
Okay, Bill C-11 is which one now?
Bill C-11 is the one where they want the CRTC.
They want the federal government to dictate what we can and can't say on the basis of whether or not it is deemed...
Canadian enough or promoting Canadian ideals of values.
The problem with that is that the Prime Minister himself had come out a little while ago and said there's no such thing as Canadian culture and ideals, so they can dictate what they mean.
So if you speak out against the federal government, they can easily say, that's un-Canadian of you.
So Bill C-11 was the online streaming act.
Bill C-18 is the link tax.
That's the one that they just came to an arrangement with Google to surreptitiously...
Subsidize the legacy media.
C11, there was some news in it and I covered it recently.
The CRTC came out with their guidelines as to who was going to be covered by it in terms of podcasts.
And they said podcasts generating $10 million or more in revenue.
That's wrong.
It wasn't podcaster generating.
It was the podcast platform.
So why that's scary is because we're all using other platforms.
I'm not using the Panteles platform.
You're not using the Viva platform.
You're using Rumble, YouTube.
They all already passed that threshold.
So they can all actually be controlled by the federal government.
It's a little thing that they use so people quickly, you're like, oh, I don't make $100 million.
I'm fine.
But it's not you.
It's the people that are pushing your show out.
They're distributing your show.
And these things that we use, the iTunes, the Apples, they all make that money.
It's Spotify.
I don't know what Podbean does.
Spotify is Podbean, Stitch, YouTube.
They make that money.
So as soon as they want, Trudeau can just decide.
Fuck, Viva's been talking a lot of shit.
Hey, Spotify.
That's un-Canadian.
Can you please remove him?
Or at least throttle him.
Make sure we don't expose him to people.
Rogan just had someone on where they were talking about it.
First of all, he was talking to a Canadian comedian.
He says, I'm not coming up there anymore.
Trudeau can eat a bag of shit, I believe.
Verbatim what he said.
He's like, I don't know if it's going to suppress my podcast, but his podcast is on Spotify.
And if and when they decide to, is that Canadian content?
I mean, it's so preposterous.
The CanCon requirements.
Where the CBC can cover Trump's impeachment, that'll be Canadian content, but Viva Fry will not get the same treatment.
Rebel media, Rebel News will not get the same treatment.
I called it at the time, it's just a way of suppressing independent media and giving the leg up to the legacy media on the internet where they're losing by their own merits.
And what was the other one?
The link tax, I called it as well, was a method of surreptitiously funding the media that they can no longer directly fund through subsidies.
And Google came to this agreement.
They're going to pay $100 million a year.
It's going to be governed by the government who's going to determine which media outlets get apportionments of that $100 million.
To Google, it's nothing.
To the CBC.
To the CBC, it's big.
They're not worth $100 million because they're not producing anything of quality.
Now, fun fact, this summer during the Just for Laughs Festival, I went to do some promo on CBC.
So they invited me to promote a couple of shows at their offices downtown.
You got invited to the CBC?
Listen to this.
Is it by accident?
And I'm not being, I don't want to be telling you, did they not know who you were?
But that's the thing.
So what happened was, it's the media people that are at, they go, yeah, we're going to send X, Y, Z people to these shows so they could promote the shows that we have at the festival.
So obviously there's some oversight.
So when I get there, I'm just having a lot of fun because I'm like, I look around, they had some nice stuff and I go, so this is what my tax dollars are buying me.
And you start noticing people are like, oh, this guy's not...
And you're like, excuse me, where's the gender-neutral bathroom?
The good thing is when I was speaking to the host off-camera, most people are all aware of that nonsense and they're against it, but what are they going to do?
They go, we know it's fucking stupid.
We know it's fucking stupid.
But, you know, we work here.
We have jobs.
We try our best to stay in line.
They will be excommunicated.
And it's a good gig.
That's what they say.
And, you know, more power to them.
Feed your kids, that's fine.
But I'm glad to see that at least people in that zeitgeist are aware it's getting ridiculous and stupid.
It's just it's so powerful that they're not strong enough to talk against it because they don't want to lose everything.
That's why we have to risk everything.
You risk everything.
And by and large...
Being authentic and speaking the truth and not, I don't want to say bend over, that's not the right analogy, but not caving in for the financial security.
It yields long-term dividends in the same way like when I left the big law firm to go out on my own.
There's a moment of insecurity that lasts more or less time, but it pays off in the long run and especially spiritually.
It's better to be the free dog that doesn't have its fur around its neck weathered away by the leash.
So that's exactly how I feel.
I feel like at least I don't have that.
We've talked about a few instances.
Thank God I have, let's say, my Patreon.
So you have people like, fuck that, I want to support.
You should get off Patreon and go straight to locals.
I might in the future, but right now Patreon is working for me.
Until I talk too much shit, and let's say even Patreon takes me off, then we'll talk about that.
Patreon right now is good because I post a lot of content, plus I can put direct videos if ever I want music or anything that I don't want them to ban me on YouTube.
So I have that.
Patreon helps a lot.
But I've given up.
Remember during, I talked to you about this, during the beginning of the vaccine campaign, my agent at the time, she had asked me, hey, we have a commercial for the government you're going to do where you're getting vaccinated.
And I said, no, I don't feel comfortable because I hadn't gotten vaccinated.
It was right early.
I wasn't sure.
I go, I'm still not sure if I'm going to get vaccinated.
It was too early to tell.
And then she's like, oh, you don't really have to.
You're just going to pretend like you do and you're going to get paid.
And I was like, yeah, I'm not comfortable doing that because then if fans see me do it and they assume it's real and then they get it and I haven't gotten it yet.
So if something happens to them, I got paid.
I can't do that shit.
And then I had the debate.
I had called Mike.
I called my mom.
I was asking a lot of people, what do you think?
Am I stupid for not just taking the payday and doing this?
But they all agreed.
They said, no, you're not going to.
Just don't do it.
Months later, when I had actually gotten vaccinated, then people were like, well, do you regret not taking the money and doing the commercial?
And I honestly go, I don't regret it.
Because at the time, I didn't want to do that and then fucking get someone else screwed over.
I got lucky that nothing happened to me.
Some people had side effects.
Not to chase it.
Neither of us know.
Nothing happened within the first three years.
Who the fuck knows?
My left testicle has been a lot bigger than the right one for the last...
That's your fault.
Have you ever told that story before publicly?
On podcasts, I had mentioned...
Even in the beginning, I remember early on I had mentioned it, but it was so...
It was a time where my YouTube channel was getting destroyed.
As soon as we started talking against that stuff, dude, I couldn't get...
I would share it and I wouldn't get views.
Like, it was insane.
If I had known you had disclosed that publicly earlier, I would have said who my source was for some of my clients.
You saw that story just come out from Black Locks.
What happened?
These influencers paid to post social media posts, supporting of the COVID policies.
It's sort of an old story, but a new story.
2022, everybody knew that influencers were being paid to promote propaganda.
And I needed the money at the time.
Everything was shut down.
We weren't doing stand-up.
It was a couple thousand dollars.
It was a regular commercial.
But I was like, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
And now I'm very happy that I didn't.
I'm very happy because I wouldn't have been able to sleep.
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