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Oct. 7, 2023 - Viva & Barnes

01:53:54

Interview with Saif Khan - Falsely Accused, Now Suing Yale University & Accuser for Defamation!

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	How did I mess up this country?
	Can anybody afford a home in this day?
	You're charging people carbon-sized.
	You got nine V8s idling for 30 minutes.
	Your carbon footprint is increasing.
	We're getting charged for what?
	It's not stopping.
	We're putting a price on pollution and we're returning it to families like yours.
	I don't think so.
	You're sending it over to Ukraine, right?
	You send it over to the guy that you were with that slotted his own country.
	You've been listening to Putin, have you?
	No, no.
	Definitely don't listen to your propaganda.
	Oh my goodness.
	We're not going to watch that a second time because it might make people wretch before we start this interview.
	I think I'm going to have the guy who shot that video on at some point next week.
	We'll see.
	I think it's lined up in borderline confirmed, but we're going to see.
	Can you believe, just like the go-to, the go-to when faced with something you don't like?
	You must be listening to that Russian propaganda.
	So the guy says to him, I'm not shaking your hand, you're an effing piece of SH.
	And he says, why?
	You've destroyed the country.
	Trudeau is handling it relatively well for a little bit.
	How have I done that?
	Nobody can afford a home.
	You're taxing carbon while you have seven of your SUVs and your security idling while you're flying to Davos to lecture the world on the climate crisis.
	And Trudeau says, you know what I'm doing with all of that?
	We're taxing pollution and we're giving it back to you?
	What in the name of sweet holy hell are you talking about, Trudeau?
	You're not taxing pollution and giving the money back to the people that you're taxing.
	I mean, you're giving me 10 cents on the dollar that you've taken from me back to me?
	That's one hell of an investment.
	And you're not even taxing pollution.
	You're outsourcing the pollution.
	Look, I'm trying to start the show without having to talk about the international horror that we're witnessing today because I don't want to talk about it.
	We'll talk about it tomorrow, you know, and we'll try to digest, you know, the abject evil that can exist in this world.
	And, you know, the proper, you know, useful political responses to atrocities.
	Twitter is, what's the word?
	It's not a foul.
	It's not running a foul, but it's awash with hot takes, people fighting, all this stuff.
	But yeah, I figured we can always just start with a Trudeau being a jack-and-inny.
	Watching too much Russian propaganda.
	Oh yeah, they're taxing pollution in Canada by outsourcing pollution to China, India.
	They're cutting off pollution here so that we can't make our own natural energy so that we're forced to buy oil and gas from...
	Tyrannical Russian oligarchs or Venezuelan overlords or Iranian whatever.
	We're outsourcing.
	We're taxing pollution, all right?
	You're enriching the very same people you purport to claim are evil while crippling the people that you were elected to represent.
	Okay.
	With that said, totally unrelated to the show for today.
	I think a lot of people don't know about this story, but it's sort of starting to make the news a little bit now.
	You might remember hearing, you might remember having heard some elements of this story.
	You know, before I do that, let me make sure that we are simultaneously live across all platforms.
	For those of you who don't know...
	Yes, we are.
	We stream on YouTube, Rumble, and vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	We're going to end on YouTube sooner than later with this interview because I'm exclusive with Rumble and I like to have the discussions where we can have the discussions without...
	Without enriching the censors.
	They'll get the leftover replay tomorrow, but the live interview will be on Rumble, and then I don't know that there's going to be an after-show Q&A on Locals, but anybody who wants to watch on vivabarneslaw.locals.com, you can go look right there.
	The link is right there.
	Just notice Viva's clock says 4.03.
	What the heck?
	Son of a...
	Oh, I'll fix it later.
	That's stupid.
	I didn't do anything.
	I don't know why that clock goes one hour bad.
	All right, so the story that you may not have heard of.
	A Yale student named Saif Khan, wrongly accused of sexual aggression, criminally charged, found not guilty, and then nonetheless, Yale University goes kangaroo court.
	Virtue signaling cancellation on a student who was wrongly accused, had a trial, evidence adduced that it did not just prove not guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
	It basically proved innocence.
	We'll get to it.
	And then notwithstanding a finding of not guilty in the criminal court, Gale makes his life a living hell, and we're going to get into that.
	Then he sought to sue Yale and his wrongful accuser for defamation and was effectively prevented from doing so for legal reasons, which Saif is going to explain, and has now been authorized by the courts to sue both Yale and his wrongful accuser for defamation for the horror that they turned his life into over the course of several years.
	That's the 30,000-foot overview.
	Saif has an amazing story.
	uh Afghan refugee brought given a scholarship by yeah we'll get into all of it because i i do have a lot of questions about Saif's childhood before we get into the experience that he had this is back in 2018 at like the you know the crest of hashtag me too let us do this now Saif i'm bringing you in three two one sir you're well i i i said you're still you're still sporting the yale sweater so uh how are you how are you doing I'm pretty good.
	How are you?
	Good evening to you and to your audience.
	Well, this is going to be...
	I think people are...
	I mean, some people are going to know this story.
	Others are not, and they're going to be flabbergasted.
	We're going to get into all this because there's some nuance that you're going to flesh out that I'm going to ask you about.
	There's some stuff that you can't discuss.
	I'll probably invariably ask too many questions.
	You'll let me know what you can and cannot answer.
	I like it that way.
	Let me ask you this.
	Okay, first of all, who are you?
	I mean, I'm going to get into your childhood because I have questions, but who are you?
	Sure.
	So, I mean, it's a continuous dynamic question of who we are.
	We change.
	And I would actually not like myself if five years from now I'm the same kid around the block.
	So it's a continuously evolving thing where I'm constantly learning, improving.
	And that's one part, I guess, that Yale and really anybody can never take away from me.
	I am always going to be me.
	I'm always going to be pushing.
	Every day, at least in the recent past, every day I...
	Oh, there's Chandler.
	Thank you, Chandler.
	And so every day I wake up, I read for five, six hours, and I then spend another five, six hours thinking about what I just read.
	And so I'm precocious.
	I'm curious.
	At the end of the day, I just love learning.
	And that's what brought me to America.
	As you pointed out, was in suboptimal conditions.
	Started off in a refugee camp, crossed the border from Afghanistan into Pakistan when my parents and so on escaped the Civil War and the Taliban in the early 90s.
	I'm 30 years old, for those who don't know.
	And yeah, I spent...
	About 16 years in the camp and nearby there and two years in UAE and the rest in America.
	Okay, so hold on.
	Back this up all the way.
	Your parents are born where?
	Yeah, so I'll go pretty far.
	My last name is Khan or Khan for the American palate.
	And so it's an earned title that you...
	You essentially have to be a conqueror.
	And so my grandfather and his father earned the title because they defended some castle from the barbarians who invaded the village.
	So that's how I ended up with the Khan because my forefathers did.
	But my grandfather went from the village in Katawaz, Pakhtika to Kabul.
	In 70s, early 80s or so.
	Early 70s.
	And he was poor.
	Even though his childhood was, you know, with this whole bravery and so on, he started his own business.
	He took a tray, put candy on it, tied a rope to one end, slung the rope over his shoulders and tied it to the other end and just started selling candy on the street.
	And then ended up making a killing, buying and selling.
	And he was uneducated.
	He never went to school.
	My mom has zero schooling, didn't go to any, even kindergarten.
	My dad has a bit of schooling, I think grade 10. And so my parents were largely born and raised around Kabul.
	And in the early 90s, my dad and his dad, They had been buying and selling dishware and crockery, basically China ware.
	And a mistake that my grandpa had made was he bought a lot of wine glasses.
	And because he couldn't read, you know, he thought it was juice.
	And so he was like, oh, look at this fantastic design.
	There's like, you know, a neck and there's a whole cup.
	And so he bought a ton of those to sell them in Kabul.
	And during the civil war, the Taliban saw it and accused him of bootlegging and helping people drink alcohol, which is a crime and punishable.
	What did you say to the Taliban?
	This is what your parents did.
	They say, we're going to kill anybody in this house.
	And they pack up everything they have.
	They pack up everything they can and leave the rest.
	And end up in a refugee camp.
	Where was the refugee camp again?
	It was across the border into Pakistan.
	It was designed, built, and supported by the UNHCR, the United Nations High Commission for Refugees.
	You're born into a refugee camp.
	Well, I don't remember, but some people tell me.
	But you were raised in a refugee camp.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, I mean, like, one of my earliest memories is just walking outside.
	Because I was a curious kid.
	I think my earliest memory was just every day going out in the same direction and trying to walk just a little bit further, however far my little legs could take me.
	To see the end of the world.
	And so when I would get tired, I'd point to a tree like, okay, it's at least that big.
	It's at least that far.
	And so, I mean, I had no idea of how big the world is.
	And like, it was also hard to articulate it, but it's just the exploration.
	I mean, what age were you when you left the refugee camp?
	I think like about four-ish or so.
	So my dad and mom, they're generally pretty smart, so they were able to get out and change circumstances and seek better life elsewhere.
	For those who don't know, I picture a refugee camp and I'm thinking from the Lord of War, something in the middle of the desert and it has fences around it.
	Is it built up structure?
	Is it tents?
	It's a lot of tents.
	You know, folks coming in to give you polio shots and other vaccines and just distribution of food.
	But my memory of early childhood is surprisingly non-existent.
	And there's a good chance that I've, like, suppressed a ton of memories up until, like, age eight.
	So I actually, to a significant degree, don't recall my early childhood.
	Okay, that's fascinating.
	And do you have pictures of this?
	I mean, it almost feels like a stupid question.
	How do you get pictures of you in a refugee camp or your family?
	I mean, I think folks had some.
	I don't have any on mute right now.
	No, no, no.
	It's such a foreign concept as to what is in it.
	All the food has to be administered given from outside.
	There's no stores.
	It's kickball and survival.
	That's it.
	Right.
	And it's largely temporary.
	And my parents, being smart enough, were able to start their own business and, you know, get out of there and go to the local town, you know, have a slightly more bigger, better upgrade, you know, have amenities like air conditioner, you know, and like fans for whatever amount of electricity that used to be there because there's a rolling blackouts that happen.
	So you only get electricity for a certain number of hours a day.
	It's far closer to poverty and less danger because then it would defeat the point of it being a refuge.
	So it's Afghanistan and poverty minus the danger.
	Okay, interesting.
	So eventually they make their way out to...
	Is it to Pakistan or to Afghanistan?
	So they were in Pakistan and until age 16-ish we were around there and that's largely where I got my early education.
	However, most of my early education was me teaching myself.
	One of my favorite things to do was to go to the bakery as much as I could because the bakery, they would give you the bread with newspapers under it so you could hold it.
	And the newspapers were my source of reading.
	And what was extra funny was...
	You know, a lot of the unsold stuff from the West get then, you know, recycled in the East.
	And so I would be reading about Nixon resigning in the 90s because it's like old newspapers that just never got sold or like, you know, other stock.
	And so and I barely understood the English.
	So I was like trying to make sense of things.
	And so it just.
	One thing that was great about the regular schooling was that they did teach us ABCs, but nobody spoke English.
	And so I was able to, you know, form words and like really struggle with like, what does this thing mean?
	And so I was incredibly lucky to also have a computer around, you know, in my early childhood, like eight, nine years old or so.
	Very dusty hands-me-down sort of computer.
	It was there.
	And so the more I got acquainted with technology, the better my English got.
	And the better my English got, the more I was able to play around with tech.
	I had, in fact, a Game Boy, too, that was, you know, one of those recyclable boys that people drove.
	And so the battery didn't work and, like, games wouldn't save.
	And so, but I had a ton of fun.
	Do you have siblings or no siblings?
	Yeah, I do.
	Yeah, but largely I...
	You know, don't talk about it in the media so much, but one thing I could say is that despite my harrowing experience with Yale, I ended up bringing one over to NYU and the youngest isn't yet heard.
	And so I've been, despite the challenges, I've, you know, been promoting the education within my family and within my friend circles.
	Okay, you glitched out for a second there.
	Did you say one of them you brought over to Harvard as well?
	Yeah, yep.
	He is there right now.
	You learned nothing from your experience at Yale.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	I'm joking.
	Okay, what I'm going to do now, I'm going to end this on YouTube.
	It changes nothing from our end, but we're going to get into some stuff now, and I want to end it on YouTube.
	So everybody get your butts over to Rumble if you're so inclined.
	And I'm going to end it on YouTube in 3, 2, 1. So, okay, you're 15, 16, and clearly...
	Let's say like intelligent or you are clearly intelligent but also able to teach yourself in a way that you know some other people may not have the motivation.
	How does it happen that you end up at Yale?
	I understand you got a scholarship.
	I mean how the heck does that happen?
	Yeah so there's like a lot of like little step-by-step stuff like well how do you do this thing and there's the abstract high-level stuff like so how do you connect the you know small Steps with the abstract.
	And what was fascinating was on the abstract level, I'm in the UAE.
	So my last two years of high school were in the UAE.
	I got an international experience.
	And this idea of like, oh, people go to college.
	It's foreign because my mom has no schooling.
	My dad has a grade 10 or so.
	And this is around the financial crisis or a few years after.
	And my senior year of high school, I'm realizing, what do I do?
	And I don't want to go work at my dad's shop.
	And so I have to figure out, like, what do I do?
	And so the idea of, like, oh, I guess people my age go to college, and there's such a thing as a scholarship.
	So I, in the abstract, hyper-optimize it.
	Are there, like, really, really good colleges?
	Because they have to be comparable.
	And in that contrast, what I ended up doing was I made an Excel sheet.
	So I found, like, online lists where there was a list of, like, 6,400-ish, you know, U.S. colleges.
	I put sheet one, and then I put colleges, you know, in Germany, and colleges in the U.K., and China, and Korea.
	And then, you know...
	In the small steps and also reading online blogs and people are talking about it.
	And generally, the internet is dominated by English.
	And so then I'm comparing, like, okay, well, how many years would it relatively take me to pick up Mandarin or German?
	And I somewhat knew English.
	And then just comparing it on the abstract level of, like, well, America just seems to be the land of opportunity.
	And there's just so much.
	And then dwindling down the list based on simple logistical things like, well, this college specifically says we have no scholarships.
	Well, I just can't attend.
	And so I truncated the list down to about 20-ish colleges, and there were only the colleges that provide a scholarship to need-based anyone across the world.
	And it just happened to overlap heavily with the Ivy League.
	I guess they have the endowments to support these endeavors.
	And then it was connecting when I honed in on the goal level of like, well, I guess I'm targeting this.
	Then it's like, well, what do they need?
	What hoops do I have to jump through?
	Because this is, you know, matchmaking.
	This is dating.
	They want something.
	I want something.
	And so what do I need to give them?
	And so then I just made a list of like, I guess they need.
	SAT.
	They need this.
	They need TOEFL.
	They need, you know, these grades and grades I couldn't do much about because I already had perfect grades at that point.
	Yeah.
	And then minor things like, oh, they need me to pay on the common app per individual school.
	So I had to find somebody with a credit card.
	I had about $900 saved up from, you know, work that I used to do in the summer.
	And so I gave cash to a guy that I found that had a credit card so that I could use his.
	And then it was also, like, just abstract challenges, like, is this a scam?
	And then I was like, this seems relatively correct in just applying critical thinking.
	Like, hey, I'm giving a website money.
	How do I even know that they're going to take me to a different country?
	Like, this feels like you're entering the realm of, like, is this a foreign country?
	What is this deal that we're doing?
	Right?
	Like, it's a transaction of sorts.
	And then it's like, okay, well, I have two and a half months.
	Okay, I got this test.
	I can do this.
	I can study for four weeks.
	I got this other test.
	I'll do two weeks there.
	I got two weeks to write an essay.
	And then I just send out the application.
	And so there was a lot of these intricate minor steps, even within each, nested within.
	If you could imagine a concatenated list of a chief goal of getting to college.
	And so I just...
	Kept doing the work, and I got on a wait list.
	And you're 18 at this time, give or take?
	17 and a half.
	It's an amazing thing.
	Some people's initiative versus other people.
	And no judgment, just like some people would probably be happier playing video games than figuring out how to escape.
	So this was a video game to me, right?
	Because I have this nature to me where I am playful.
	You know, I'm curious and I gamify a task.
	And I'm like, hey, am I able to achieve this thing?
	And so the gamification of like, can I do this college thing really, really well?
	And it's just, and it makes it more fun rather than, you know, doing tasks.
	So you apply, you're in the United Arab Emirates at this point in time.
	Right.
	Your dad owns, can I ask what type of shop your dad owns?
	Sure.
	So he's still doing business of like...
	Plates and kitchenware stuff.
	And your mom is working with him?
	No, she's at home taking care of kids.
	So they know, I presume, that you're applying to some American university for a scholarship.
	Right.
	Now I'm dying to know, what happens the moment you get the confirmation that you've gotten a scholarship to Yale?
	Right.
	I guess just lots of shock.
	Well, what does that mean?
	And it takes a while for it to transpire, to take it in.
	Like, wait, what do you mean?
	So you're saying those guys are going to buy your plane ticket?
	And I'm like, yeah, here's the ticket.
	They sent it.
	They're going to give you a visa.
	They're going to, you know, pay for your education.
	And I'm like, yeah.
	And they're like, are you sure?
	And I'm like, yeah, I guess this is the deal, right?
	I got a stupid technical question.
	Does the acceptance come by way of, are you on email or does it come by way of like physical letter in the mail?
	So the way I got it was by phone call first.
	So there were quite a number of things that occurred in midway too.
	And one of the propositions that Yale actually did was they called me saying, hey, look, we think you're a diamond that they're up.
	You have like amazing grades.
	You have like amazing other stuff.
	You just don't have.
	I didn't have normal schooling whatsoever.
	Like, I just didn't have a good teacher until I got to Yale.
	And so they were like, "Hey, we think you should go to Hotchkiss, which is a private boarding school in Northwest Connecticut.
	Why don't you go there for a year?" Because, look, when you're here at Yale, a lot of your peers, they already know everything.
	They're only going to be focusing on classes.
	Well, you're going to be acclimating to America.
	You're going to be getting a phone and a bank account.
	And, you know, I didn't know how to use a fork and knife.
	And so there's just a lot of assimilation and catching up on layers of existence that others wouldn't have issues with.
	I had never slept on a raised bed.
	You know, it's like these small things add up.
	And so they're like, why don't you cushion your progress?
	By going to this boarding school for a year, which I'm like, sure, more schooling?
	Is it free?
	And they're like, yeah, sure, of course.
	And so they had an alum pay for that.
	And so I did that for a year first.
	That's incredible.
	I mean, it's so incredible.
	They send you a ticket, you go to, you said Connecticut was where Hodgkins was?
	Right.
	And so how much, I mean, I got to ask the questions.
	How much money do they give you?
	Like 20,000 a year, it goes into a bank account, you get a card, and you have to ration all this You're not getting money from anywhere else.
	So a lot of the accounting was just direct, meaning tuition, housing, food.
	It just comes in, goes out immediately to the school.
	And I think I had pocket money of about, I don't know, 700, 800 bucks a semester.
	So about four months, 700 bucks.
	And that's what I would stretch.
	That's amazing.
	Yeah, things were taken care of in general.
	And so I just had to be, I guess, a good student.
	And so you go from United Arab Emirates.
	Your parents say, so long, son.
	You get on a plane alone.
	You land here or there.
	And then you go to...
	Okay, so what's that like landing in America for the first time ever?
	Well, so I prepared.
	So I watched...
	The Friends show from the 90s.
	You watched Coming to America.
	That's going to be probably...
	So there was quite a number of...
	I watched Coming to America two years later.
	Somebody pointed out to me.
	I guess largely just getting connected to content of like, hey, you should watch this.
	It's an endeavor in itself.
	You're just not aware of what there is.
	It's an unknown unknown.
	And so...
	Yeah, I just watched Friends took the manner I'm done because a lot of my English was book nerd English.
	So, you know, I'd say things like, "Rendezves!" and somebody would stop me, "You mean rendezvous?" I'm like, "Yep, thank you." Burned into my memory.
	And so I would fix a lot of these, you know, enunciation issues or wrong usage of certain words because, you know, I was not following the colloquial zeitgeist.
	With everybody else.
	I was just vibing on my own plane the whole time, right?
	And so, yeah, it felt surprisingly normal when I landed, because it just seemed like, yeah, I've practiced this, I've simulated this, and it just was normal.
	Okay, very cool.
	So the year in, you said it was Hodgkins?
	Hodgkins.
	It's a theater school that used to be a theater school for Yale, where, you know, the boys from Manhattan would go to a boarding school and then to Yale.
	Now I've got to ask this question also.
	I'm very nosy.
	I apologize.
	I presume that growing up in UAE, alcohol is still taboo.
	You now come to America where alcohol in university is not only not taboo, it's almost a prerequisite.
	Do you avoid alcohol or do you discover alcohol?
	I had it on the first plane ride on.
	And it's just curiosity.
	Again, I will test.
	I will try, right?
	It's just like, well, what does it do?
	And then on campus, I had noticed, you know, the numbing effects.
	And so on campus, I started taking around with me ping pong balls in my pocket to parties.
	And so I would be the weirdo who would, you know, take a sip and then throw a ping pong ball.
	So I'm generally very athletic.
	And so I have good eye coordination and hand-eye coordination.
	And so I'd catch the ball.
	And then I'd, like, take another sip.
	And, like, mentally make a graph of, like, where am I at?
	Like, how much am I enjoying it?
	And how is my, you know, how do I feel?
	How good am I, you know, in judging my capacity?
	And then once or twice I'd push the rightward corner where, like, you just drink too much.
	And then I was like, okay, got it.
	That's a bad point.
	Then I graphed out the downward slopes where your liver is digesting it and then you're getting sober, I guess.
	Then just calculating how long it takes to...
	Stay at the perfect buzz and how much do you replenish?
	So I ran these experiments.
	It's amazing.
	This reminds me when we were kids and my brother in high school, they had to do a science experiment.
	And his science experiment was he had a ruler, his friend would hold a ruler, he would pinch it.
	And, you know, his friend would drop it, he would pinch it, and then he would take a shot and then see how alcohol impacted him.
	Because you could measure when you pinch it, like five millimeters.
	He got in big trouble for running this experiment in high school.
	I probably shouldn't have told that story.
	Damn it.
	I'm joking.
	So, okay, so that's, I mean, that's fascinating.
	You could easily write a book about all of this, but we're going to get to the chapter of the book that is the next horrendous, I'll call it, horrendous chapter of your life.
	After the first year in, I'm going to mispronounce, it's stuck in Hodgkins in my brain, you get to Yale now for your degree.
	What are you studying at Yale?
	Yeah, so I picked up cognitive neuroscience.
	Largely, I was making my own degree, and so I was just having the department agree to it.
	I'm like, hey, this makes sense.
	And they're like, I guess, yeah, if you put it that way, it does.
	I wasn't following a normal...
	Where people have a checklist of classes to take to graduate in a specific major.
	Again, my curiosity tends to be more, I guess, pure, for a lack of a better phrase.
	Somebody took me into a freshman class, intro to cognitive science, and dragged me in.
	And the professor, one of the first things he says is, "There's a piece of the universe that has given itself a name." And I'm like...
	It's the brain!
	And I was just fascinated by the meta aspect of thinking.
	Like, well, how do we think?
	Like, wait, what's going on?
	Who am I?
	Who are we?
	And what does it mean to actually think?
	And what does it mean to have knowledge?
	Like, we understand knowledge, but like, what does it mean for you to possess it?
	And to truly know it.
	And there's like layers to how well you know it.
	And then the same applies to memory and other cognitive faculties.
	And so I ended up just...
	One thing I fend love about Yale and I recommend to anybody going through a liberal arts experience is to just take classes from everything.
	And so I would take classes from, you know, physics, from biology, from neurobiology, behavioral economics, law, computer science, psychology.
	And philosophy.
	And just tackle from every angle, what does it mean to think?
	And, you know, I mean, children, I took child development psychology.
	I took primate, you know, related classes.
	And so just tackling it from every angle, like, what does that mean?
	And this is within the context of a Bachelor of Arts?
	Right.
	Okay.
	Bachelor of Science, but sure.
	Actually, that's more accurate.
	It's interesting.
	You clearly have a very unique mind and a way of approaching the world.
	Now, let's get into the beginning of this.
	You're going to have to give us the context.
	You get accused of rape.
	I know the details.
	It's at a Halloween party.
	First thing first, is this in your first year of university?
	So this is my senior year and to give you better context of who I was in the senior year or at the very least in the eyes of the bubble that we were in, I was notorious.
	Notorious in the sense that I didn't like the weird socialization that occurred quite often.
	Where you would forcefully, you know, stay quiet just because that's what everybody else expected you to stay quiet.
	I blanked on one of my, he was asking me, you know, a fragment experience that was very eye-opening to me.
	And I remember the person's name right now, Rick Santorum.
	He was a candidate in 2012, and he came over to speak.
	And so I don't have any political involvement or, you know, I don't fit in a camp in America, if anybody wants to know.
	But one thing that my culture and my background and my father and my grandfather has imbued within me is respect.
	And when Rick Santorum was talking, people were booing and yelling and loudly and just pissing.
	And more than an amount of disagreement, it was just utter sheer disrespect.
	And it was...
	In my mind, I'm shocked.
	What's going on?
	I thought the guy farted or something.
	Or did I miss something?
	I thought that he just did something so big where I was like, did I miss something?
	What's going on?
	And so that cognitive dissonance that I was feeling was like, look, freshman year, I have very high expectations of my colleagues.
	Because they are smart people.
	They're really good test takers.
	Utilize the English language with such precision, you know, that I had never seen myself.
	And they had a lot of other intelligent aspects, but they became so tribalistic, just like the tribes in Afghanistan.
	And I was like, we were above this.
	Because, like, here I am in a very, very diverse place where we have folks from everywhere, and they're acting like, you know, that monolithic...
	Single ethnicity folks in Afghanistan, like areas.
	And so it was just disrespectful to a significant degree.
	And then I started noticing this all over campus.
	And so I didn't shut up.
	And I was like, hey, this is wrong.
	That's wrong.
	And I became notorious because people couldn't say much to me for stupid reasons.
	And the stupid reason was, oh, he's the refugee kid.
	He doesn't know better.
	And I was like, no, I'm just calling it out.
	Argue with me on the content of things.
	Forget where I'm from.
	I don't care about identity stuff related to me.
	Focus and talk to me about these particular issues in these ways.
	And so I was one of the founders and moderators for Overheard at Yale, which was a gossip group for campus.
	And I actively stopped a lot of student movements that were abusive and just plain wrong.
	And so I come with a bit of naivety where I was just standing up for things, not realizing that I was conducting politics.
	You're the goody two-shoes, overachieving.
	Your grades are probably very good as well at Yale.
	Stifling the woke cancel mob that wants to shout people down.
	And who the hell are you to do this?
	This is not how it works here.
	Interesting context.
	Yeah, and one thing I ended up realizing was that a lot of folks that wanted to associate with me based on my background were seeing me as a token.
	Somebody to tell their parents that, hey, I'm friends with an advocate.
	And I was like, no, we're friends because we're friends, buddy.
	Not because...
	Let's throw that thing out of the way.
	Like, it's just weird to be seen in that way.
	Like, yeah, it's cool.
	Like, oh, here's stories and we can talk about our upbringings.
	But it's like, you're only seeing me through that specific lens.
	And it was boring.
	It felt tricky to me.
	Okay.
	You glitched out there for a second.
	The internet is not...
	There's a bit of an internet issue problem.
	Okay, so...
	But all that to say, so this happens your senior year, your grades are good, like you're succeeding in achieving and you're not having any issues at Yale at any point during your tenure.
	And I guess another part that I was notorious with was I was promiscuous.
	I was, you know, a major slut.
	And so not a crime to me.
	I was having a lot of fun.
	Like college to me was a lot of fun.
	And so I even had an open relationship, long-distance girlfriend, and I was just sleeping around left and right.
	I honestly lost count at college.
	And that also ended up just rubbing a lot of men badly at Yale.
	A lot of liberal men were just like, why would you ask that girl out?
	How would you know?
	That she, you know, she's interested.
	And I'm like, well, if she's not, she'll say no.
	I'm like, hi, okay, have a good day.
	Like, I'm, you know, proposing this question to a person like, hey, want to hang out?
	Want to go back to my room?
	Or like, hey, want to do this?
	And the guys are like, but you don't even know her name.
	I'm like, yeah, but like, you know, people say yes.
	And so, and if they say no, well, have a good day.
	Take care.
	And so, a lot of folks, I guess, just didn't like that part.
	And my senior year, I was part of a secret society, a Jewish one.
	I was part of two of them.
	First of all, as anybody who knows me, they know what I'm thinking.
	You're breaking two rules here.
	You're not keeping your schmeckle in your pants and you're joining secret societies.
	This is how problems start.
	You're discovering America in the most American pie-type sense.
	You're discovering alcohol and sex, and you're coming from a repressive United Arab Emirates, Afghanistan, born to holy cows.
	This is what freedom, for good and for bad, this is what it can lead to.
	So you're promiscuous, which I imagine is going to piss off some of the girls who might not be interested in, who might not have thought that they were entering what would be a loveless exchange.
	And now you're joining a secret society.
	This is going.
	I had a friend in college.
	He did a lot of art and improv and he wrote a play partially inspired by my situation.
	The title was Sex, Drugs and Existentialism.
	And so I went deep as a neuroscience kid.
	I ended up designing a lot of my own chemicals, let's call it.
	And so I had a lot of fun just, you know, playing around with neurochemistry and like, you know, how different things could alter brain states.
	And like, so I had a lot of fun.
	I was like, this is what America is.
	Yeah.
	And so I ended up joining a Jewish secret society.
	It was quite a bit of fun.
	And we had recently purchased a new mansion.
	A historic one.
	And so I was like, hey, we should celebrate this.
	So I hosted a party there and invited the whole town.
	Well, just like a couple hundred people.
	That's amazing.
	This was not my experience in university, by the way.
	I do like hearing vicariously through others.
	But let me ask you an obvious question.
	Khan, you're a Muslim of faith?
	Born and raised.
	And so now it's a Jewish society, but quite clearly then you don't have to be Jewish to join the society.
	Yeah, I was one of the only folks that was not Jewish in its entire history.
	I think Cory Booker was a non-Jewish member, the senator from New Jersey.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're not in good company with Cory.
	That's not the one you want to have.
	Look, we have quite a number of alumni.
	And so, yeah, they let me in.
	Yeah, I was a good kid.
	I mean, it's fantastic.
	I mean, this is going to make a movie one day.
	So it's a Halloween party, senior year, you're a member of a Jewish secret society, a couple hundred people at a house party in a mansion that was acquired by the secret society.
	Right.
	And then what happens?
	Yeah, and so I had convinced the rabbi, one of the rabbis who was a member of the Shabtai, back then named Eliezer Society, That, hey, because he was very anti-celebrating Halloween because it's not true.
	It's a pagan holiday.
	It's actually one of the only ones that the religious Jews refuse to celebrate.
	Right.
	And so the trick I did was I was like, well, actually, we're celebrating Havdalah.
	And Havdalah was, you know, like, it coincided that night.
	And so I was like, hey, we're actually celebrating Havdalah.
	And I titled the thing Halloween's Party.
	And I was like...
	That was the trick.
	And the rabbi was like, yeah, that makes sense.
	And so I sent out invitations for Halloween's party.
	Like, it's not Halloween.
	It's Halloween.
	I got away with it.
	There's no cosmic anything here.
	You got away with the party, but the party was the starting point of a lot of misery.
	So the party happens.
	And I'll skip some of it.
	The girl is not someone you only meet that night.
	It's a girl that you had known beforehand.
	I had known her from beforehand.
	We lived 20, 30 feet from each other.
	We had similar student jobs at the dining hall.
	She had taken a class with my open relationship girlfriend the summer before.
	We were in the same dormitory, lived close by, and we were flirting with each other for quite a bit as I was flirty with.
	Many other girls.
	And we decided to have dinner that night.
	It was, like, I think Saturday night or something.
	And, you know, she came to my party that I was hosting, the Halloweens.
	Totally not Halloween.
	It was Halloween.
	It's fantastic.
	And then I had, like, many other tickets.
	I was also the ticket guru where I wouldn't scalp the tickets, but I was like, I was smart enough to buy 20 or plus tickets for the symphony orchestra, and then I knew that the day of, there would be tons of folks who wanted the tickets, so I would literally sell it to them for the bare, basic price that I purchased them, like just neutral, so no profiting.
	But I would cash in on the social cachet of, you know, "Oh!" At the time of need, at the last few hours, he showed up with tickets.
	And I was like, yep.
	And so I have like 20 plus tickets.
	And this girl wanted to go with me.
	And so we went to the symphony orchestra show, sold out.
	And we end up, you know, in her room later on.
	And we have sex.
	And she was memorized.
	She wanted a relationship.
	May I stop you there?
	First time that you have had relations with this particular woman?
	Sexual, yes.
	Yes, okay, fine.
	All right, so it wasn't like, there was no pre-experience.
	This was the first...
	I mean, we had kissed before.
	Okay.
	But nothing sexual.
	Okay, so the first one.
	And then, I guess it becomes clear that she was expecting something different, and when that didn't occur, something different, a reimagination of what had happened occurred.
	Yeah, I mean, so...
	The night of, when we had sex, in the morning, she slapped me.
	And she was like, hey, why didn't we have sex if we weren't going to be in a relationship?
	We should have kept this between us.
	She just wanted things to be kept between us so that others do not find out.
	Because she didn't want to be known as one of the girls who slept with that guy.
	Especially within her friend's circle.
	And so we're like, okay, let's just not tell each other.
	So we agreed and we even texted back and forth about it.
	And I was like, also, let's talk about this over breakfast.
	Like there seems to be like, you know, stuff that needs to be fleshed out.
	And so we agreed to go have breakfast together.
	And I went to my room because I had, you know, slept over at hers.
	And I went to my room to charge my phone and, you know, sleep for like an hour or two and then go have breakfast with her.
	I have to ask this question.
	I don't want to, but I'm not going to...
	Was she a virgin?
	No.
	Okay, fine.
	That is only to understand how this might have been...
	We're both seniors.
	She's...
	I can't...
	No, no, forget that.
	I don't want to know more than that.
	She's not a virgin.
	Yeah, just a question of what might explain why this could have been something much more of an emotionally meaningful experience.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So it's clear then the different expectations of where this was going, but not as relates to the consent for the event itself.
	Right.
	How does that day end?
	And how does it end in rape accusations?
	Right.
	And so we decided to, you know, have breakfast and I went to sleep and I was supposed to, you know, wake up and go with her.
	I kept getting calls from...
	Apparently my captain, he's like yelling at me saying, get your ass over here, get to the stadium.
	I had totally forgotten.
	I was so much in party mode, you know, being a host and doing all the logistics of making sure the party goes well.
	I had forgotten that I had a cricket game that Sunday, Sunday morning, and against Harvard.
	And so I had to run to get to the stadium, get on the bus and so on.
	And I text the girl like, sorry to bitch on you.
	I can't have breakfast.
	So I dished on her.
	And later on, we found out at the criminal trial, her friends came over to her room and, you know, they were asking questions.
	And so some of them said, hey, we saw you with Saif last night.
	And you guys were, you know, kissing and intimate and, you know, touchy, touchy.
	And she was like, no, no, no, I was not with him.
	And, you know, she's just trying to make sure that people don't find out that we had sex.
	And then another girlfriend of hers sees condoms in the trash.
	And so, sorry, there's like somebody upstairs.
	And so they see condoms in the trash and they ask her like, hey, did you have sex with him?
	And she was like, no, it was all him.
	I didn't do anything.
	It was, you know, I didn't have sex with him.
	He had sex with me.
	And they're like, that sounds like rape.
	This is incredible.
	And I say, like, this has got to be embarrassing, but you've already done this in a court of law, so this is, I mean, maybe it's, you're desensitized to this, and it's also not that embarrassing.
	So that's how it, okay, sorry.
	So she says there's condom in the garbage, which is an indication of something not necessarily rape.
	And then, okay, go on.
	So she, at that point, you know, to, I guess...
	You know, out of shame, out of a desire to not take any of her responsibility because it was a joint decision to have this.
	She says she had no, you know, intention of having sex.
	It was all him.
	And she just puts all the blame on me and her friends interpret it for her as like, well, that sounds like rape.
	And so they push that idea of rape.
	And then immediately sets up, they set up a meeting with a sex therapist, a huge feminist who then says, This is absolutely horrible.
	One of the worst things I've heard.
	You've clearly been taken advantage of.
	Is she saying because she was drunk or under the influence or just totally non-consensual?
	So 20-ish or so minutes before her friends, she had gone to the nurse saying that it was completely consensual and she just wants Plan B. She, you know, she went to the nurse getting Plan B and the nurse noted down that...
	You know, a girl comes in, says she had consensual sex and wants Plan B for risk of like STDs and pregnancy and so on.
	And I think she sought out also other drugs for STDs.
	And to an official, she had said consensual, but then her friends, when they found out and they saw the, you know, the condoms in the trash can, they pushed the idea of, you know, well...
	This wasn't your doing.
	And she played along with it.
	Because she couldn't tell her friends that, "Oh, actually we both did it." Because then she would come off as a slut.
	I'm seeing, just as you tell the story, some similarities between the whole Russell Brand thing where you have a...
	I didn't know actually of your promiscuity, but you can see how someone says, "Well, now I don't want to be associated "with having had this experience, "and so how do I absolve myself of responsibility?" Right, so she doesn't go to the police.
	She goes to the sex therapist who initiates this entire new bureaucracy.
	So October 26th of that year.
	The university came out with new rules, Title IX rules, because they were pressured, forced by the Department of Education and the federal government at large to really, really strongly take care of crime on campus, especially rape.
	And so October 26th, they come out with new regulations, and I'm their first guinea pig.
	And so they applied on me, and so then they...
	You know, initiate police investigation with the Yale police.
	They initiate a Yale Title IX investigation.
	They initiate deportation proceedings.
	They issue an emergency suspension against me.
	And so it's just, like, immediately, it's not the girl who did this.
	She's now just following orders of the Yale administrators, telling her, go to the police here.
	Tell them this.
	Do this thing.
	And, like, an entire machine just kicked into gear.
	It wasn't her on her own volition doing all these things.
	Geez, Louise, that's almost like...
	I analogize everything.
	It's the movies of The Simpsons, the episode of The Simpsons when Bart makes the lie about the kid in the well and then the whole city mobilizes and then he's so far into this lie, he's got no choice but to perpetuate it.
	They initiated deportation proceedings?
	Yeah, so I mean, I was brought to America on an F-1 student visa and so...
	I mean, I'm not American.
	I don't have residency rights.
	And so...
	Yale is supposed to inform the Department of Homeland Security, specifically the department within it, ICE, Immigration and Customer Enforcement, that some students are no longer students.
	Let's say somebody escapes, like say they come here as a student and then just stop attending school and go elsewhere.
	So the school is supposed to inform them.
	What the school told them is saying, "Oh..." We put them on an emergency suspension.
	He's accused of these crimes to initiate deportation proceedings.
	And we will have the Yale police having him in custody because we have issued an arrest warrant.
	They put a $100,000 bail against me.
	And so the Yale police had an arrest warrant.
	And so they informed ICE that he will be in custody so that they could then kick me out.
	All of this happens within how much time of the, Right.
	So that's something that will be fleshed out in the civil lawsuit to discovery.
	I don't have insight into the discovery stuff.
	I don't know what the specific steps that occurred were.
	So overall, to me, it was out of the blue.
	It was a sudden shock.
	Yesterday, I'm worrying about midterms.
	And what to do for my thesis.
	And what to do for post-graduation.
	And now they gave me 30 minutes to pack up and leave.
	And this isn't even because of a result of an investigation.
	This was merely on the strength of a three-sentence email that she didn't even write.
	It was written by an administrator for her to then be sent to the administrator himself.
	And so it was The entire procedure, this machine, went into action on the strength of a three-sentence email.
	All right.
	And go through what happens after this?
	Immediate suspension?
	You get arrested, detained, incarcerated, post bail?
	So they gave me 30 minutes to pack up and leave.
	And so I find myself on the street.
	With two suitcases, whatever I could quickly pack up, just the important stuff.
	Months later, I had a friend go into my room and then pack up stuff for me and take it.
	So I'm on the street, and it's cold November, and I'm hungry, and my phone is out of charge, and I'm in shock, and I just got kicked out, and the police are going to find me, and a plethora of issues, and I don't have a place to sleep.
	I go up to a bridge, a Q bridge in New Haven, and I didn't know how to swim back then.
	I almost jumped.
	It was just a lot suddenly.
	This is nuts.
	So they say 30 minutes, get out, you're suspended or expelled.
	What date is this?
	So the incident is...
	On or about October.
	I don't recall.
	Not exactly.
	Is this within a week?
	Within three days?
	Yeah, like a week or so.
	Jeez.
	And I'm just googling this as you're talking.
	Yale police officers have the same standing and powers as officers of the New Haven Police Department, including complete authority to apprehend or arrest anyone involved in illegal acts on campus and throughout the city.
	Holy shit.
	So they're fucking deputized.
	And this part really pisses me off.
	And it's structurally a wrong thing.
	On an abstract philosophical level and just a practical matter, they're deputized and given all the constitutional powers that a regular police force does, but they're hired, promoted and fired and given instructions and so forth from the university.
	So they get to wield the power of the government as a private corporation.
	They get to do that and they can direct the energies of the police force against I
	went to McDonald's.
	I had $94 in my bank account, and I went to McDonald's, charged my phone, and ate a burger, and went through my contact list.
	And then, I mean, I was Googling, what is a lawyer?
	Because I was a science kid.
	I didn't know law, I didn't know crime, because I didn't have a thing with it.
	I was Googling Ted Online, I was Googling everything, and I just went through my contact list.
	And one thing that I really am proud of myself by senior year that I had done was I had helped quite a number of local New Haven families and people in general.
	And I called the family saying like, "Hey, I don't have a place to stay." And they said, "Where are you?
	We'll pick you up right now." And so I just ended up staying with them.
	And I called up others saying, like, hey, I need to figure out a way to bond myself out of jail.
	And people pitched in.
	And within 24 hours, I had an attorney.
	I had a response ready to send to Yale.
	I had, you know, Googled the intake process of going to prison so that I could, like, show up to the prison, to the jail directly, not prison, to jail directly and, you know, say, here I am.
	I have a warrant against me.
	And, you know, no shoes with laces and stuff like that.
	And I had bondsmen ready, and I had an attorney ready, just rapidly responding to solving problems.
	And so the police keep me there anyway for eight hours, even though I bonded out within 15 minutes.
	They were just waiting for ICE to get there and get me out.
	And so, because it was, I think, like a weekend or so, they couldn't keep me unnecessarily, especially since I have bonded out, because it's illegal to, I think, do that over 24 hours or so.
	Tell that to the January 6th.
	Not to change the politics of this, but yeah, sorry, I had to say that.
	And so, as soon as they let me go, I just got out of Dodge.
	I was like, get the fuck out of here.
	And so, and then it just became...
	This journey of like, what just happened?
	Because I didn't...
	Because to me it was like just...
	I just had sex.
	This was just another Saturday night.
	This was like a normal thing.
	There was nothing out of the blue.
	What is going on?
	And you're out of school now.
	Your year is over.
	Right.
	Everything is over and Yale is not responding to anything appropriately.
	And I'm now fighting criminal charges and the severity is dawning on me that, oh, I'm looking at 40 plus years.
	And the Yale police had put on every level of the rape charges just to get me with something.
	Wow.
	All right.
	You get out on bond.
	You're out of school, so forget education.
	What are you going to do for money?
	And how quickly do you...
	I mean, schedule a trial.
	Right.
	And so this trial was scheduled two years later.
	And a lot of it was to do with just pre-trial motions and such.
	There was actually one of the things that I guess makes things arduous and long, but not so bad for me, is that I like to fix things as I go through things.
	In Connecticut, in pretrial motions, you'd have, you know, these conferences between the judge, the prosecution, the defense.
	They also would have a seat at the table for the complaining party.
	And we argued, why is her attorney here?
	This is State of Connecticut v.
	Kahn, not her versus me.
	She's a witness, sure.
	It took a few months, but we actually successfully got a motion passed, which then other criminal defense attorneys also started replicating, which was these folks should not be a party to this.
	And so I like to fix these structural things.
	And so trial was supposed to start like October 16, 2017, like two years later.
	Yeah, we go through jury selection and trial is starting on the 16th or so and five minutes before they're sworn in.
	Prosecution's office folks, like low-level folks, come into the courtroom.
	They burst in with bags, trash bags, of notes they found that the Yale police had destroyed.
	And parts that they still hadn't yet destroyed.
	And a good chunk of them was exculpatory.
	And a mistrial was declared.
	And so the judge was furious.
	The prosecutor was profusely apologizing, saying, like, look, I had nothing to do with this.
	This was all Yale police.
	I did nothing here.
	I'm so, so, so sorry.
	Because it was a Brady v.
	Maryland violation to not hand over every piece of exculpatory evidence or even just normal evidence.
	To the defense.
	And so a mistrial was declared and...
	Well, the judge asked me, like, Mr. Khan, it's up to you.
	Do you want to go through with it now or delay it?
	And naive me said, well, I'll just delay it.
	And so I pushed it to February.
	But was it good?
	This was in front of the...
	This was in front of the jury that all this happened?
	Five minutes before they were sworn in.
	That jury was dismissed.
	And now, hold on just one second.
	So, this is two years later.
	In those two years, you're not in school?
	Are you working?
	Like, what are you doing with your life?
	So, I ended up...
	So, one of the companies I had at that point, before the acquisition, was I was providing strategic communication services to the Pentagon on counter-terrorism efforts.
	You know, ISIS was a big deal in 2013, '14, and '15, and so on.
	And so a couple of friends of mine and folks from the military, colonels, we decided to create our own shop, selling services to the Pentagon and getting good, lucrative Pentagon money.
	DoD is just flush with cash.
	And I was like, I want some.
	And so, you know, like, look, I'm a curious kid.
	I wanted to build a little empire.
	And so that stuff failed.
	I did end up ending up with a different company getting a And I also went to the Bay Area to do a startup.
	And I had also, for immigration stuff, I filed for an asylum application, you know, saying like, "Hey, don't send me back to Afghanistan.
	They will kill me because of X, Y, and Z reasons, like actual important salient reasons." And so that stuff is still pending.
	And it's stupid how...
	I'm waiting in line.
	I'm not breaking any laws.
	I'm not breaking any rules.
	And being in line has not been serving me at all.
	It takes so much khutzpah, I guess.
	Or not even khutzpah.
	It annoys me to no end how just being in line...
	I'm slow, where literal people who are illegally crossing over...
	The squeaky wheel gets the oil, but the flip side to that expression is the nail that sticks up against the hammer.
	So in the meantime, you're trying to work, but you're out of Yale.
	What's the girl, or what's the accuser?
	You have no communications with her, I presume, for those two years, but what's she up to?
	So she had failed physics beforehand, and she got...
	Easy grades.
	Because at Yale, if you go through a traumatic experience like rape, you get easy A's and you get easy everything else.
	And she...
	I think I can say this stuff.
	She went to medical school using my story.
	And so, you know, she talked about, like, how...
	Yeah, this became...
	Well, actually, it's known on campus.
	She's known on campus, although she's anonymous in these proceedings, until you get to sue for defamation.
	Right.
	And so this became something interesting, something of a, not a crutch rather, but okay, very interesting.
	Right.
	So she, in the meantime, she finished her schooling and reaped a ton of benefits from Yale.
	I cannot disclose stuff related to whether Yale gave her anything or not.
	I'll let the audience surmise.
	And so she went to medical school and so on.
	And this entire time, I'm just waiting on stuff.
	And so I attempted to create a startup.
	I love being an entrepreneur.
	And so I was in the Bay Area trying to start a company.
	And then I was supposed to have a trial.
	You know, it's like, hey, you have a trial in six months.
	And so when we get to that point, then it's like, oh, it's delayed another two months.
	Oh, it's delayed another two months.
	I couldn't do anything related to the startup because every time, you know, because it takes a whole effort to, you know, break the lease, get out of California and just go to Connecticut and focus on the trial.
	And so once, you know, I think like the second last or third last time, I was like, OK, this needs my full time attention.
	So I just went there and I just focused on it.
	And so trial got delayed and this was then now at the height of Me Too.
	How many years was it between the accusation of being arrested and the actual trial?
	Three years?
	The actual trial and accusation, two years and three and a half months.
	Okay.
	And the bags of exculpatory notes that Yale had destroyed or concealed, what sort of information was in that?
	Right.
	So there were notes in there where the administrators and the police had passed to each other saying, "It's from Afghanistan.
	Violence is accepted there.
	He must have done it." Verbatim.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	And so they wanted to hide that stuff.
	And there was quite a few other things that they wanted to hide.
	And so we went to trial.
	People think that I won the trial because America is misogynistic or sexist or so on and so forth.
	I won because I had DNA evidence.
	I had CCTV camera evidence.
	I had text messages evidence.
	I had cellular location evidence.
	I had card swipe going in and out of buildings evidence.
	And my testimony.
	And, you know, just other hard...
	Evidence, like, that girl exaggerated and extremely just made shit up, just lied on so many things.
	You say, like, you think you would have been, you know, you got, or found not guilty because America's misogynist.
	I would have said you would have been convicted.
	I can give five reasons.
	Yes, Afghan refugee from a part of the world where people have certain preconceived notions, where, you know, there might be, and...
	I don't know what race the woman is, but it doesn't even matter.
	So how long did the trial last?
	So the trial itself was, I think, two and a half.
	Sorry, no.
	It was like nine, ten days.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And the most damning pieces of...
	I know what they are, but...
	You tell everybody.
	The most damning pieces of contradictory evidence or self, not self-incrimination, but what's it called?
	Impeachment of the principal claimant or the accuser.
	What was that?
	Yeah.
	So there were, before I get to the accuser, a few salient things about my side of the story was I shut the hell up.
	I did not tell the police anything.
	I did not tell Yale anything.
	Because one thing on an abstract level and a practical level, I just naturally just understood it.
	Like, look, I'm not going to tell these folks who are trying to put me in prison my side of the story because they're smart and this is their job and they're going to adjust something so that, you know, they make it look better for the jury.
	And so I spoke for the first time on trial and the problem was, I was sitting on all this hard evidence.
	And meanwhile, the media, New York Times, Yale Daily News, BuzzFeed, Huffington Post, they are trashing me.
	They're talking about how guilty I am or how horrible I am.
	And I had to stay silent because at the risk of providing the hard evidence, you know, people could change their story.
	And I got super lucky.
	The girl goes up on the stand and denies having sent me text messages of flirting and Shakespeare and sonnets and just romantic this and meeting up with me and texting her friends that I'm fine, I'm just with somebody and stuff like that.
	And she's like, oh, that was all him.
	Oh, I never even wanted to ever see him.
	Her testimony, verbal testimony is, I never ever wanted to see him.
	I was actually, frankly, scared of him.
	I never wanted to ever get close to him.
	When in fact we're flirting, we're like having dinner, she's coming to my party.
	I mean like on campus there's like, I don't know, 100 parties that night?
	It's Halloween.
	She's coming to my party, she's going to the orchestra with me, we're going to her room together and she's like, I drank rum.
	There was no rum at the party.
	This was a Havdalah party and the only way I could convince the rabbi was if there was only grapevine and there was like beer, grapevine and beer.
	And she's like, oh I drank this much rum.
	There was no fucking rum anywhere to be found.
	She says, oh, the rape happened at these hours.
	I was not even in the same building.
	I was actually out looking for her friend.
	She was like, hey, can you do a recon mission?
	Go find her.
	She didn't say a recon mission, but she was like, hey, I've lost my friend.
	Can you go find her?
	In my mind, I'm like, oh, recon mission.
	I'm a naive kid.
	It's weird.
	Variables that I inhabit.
	And so she says the rape happened in these hours.
	I'm not in the same building.
	And she, for example, says, oh, yeah, from the orchestra to the room, she was falling over and I was dragging her.
	And like she kept falling all the time and she was drunk and she was like asleep.
	And I was like pulling her.
	And then the camera shows I'm like joking.
	I'm like just, you know, the way I am right now here.
	And I'm trying to impress the girl.
	I'm a boy, trying to impress the girl.
	And she's laughing.
	She's walking unaided.
	Sometimes, once every 30 seconds or 40 seconds, I'm holding her on her lower back romantically.
	And it's like, there's nothing what she's said is shown.
	And she completely disregards the messages she sent later, the morning after.
	She disregards her friend's testimony.
	And she on the stand pretends to be like goody-goody two-shoes.
	She's like, oh, I've never drank alcohol before.
	I don't go partying.
	And I can say this part.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I cannot say that part because that would...
	I don't want to get you in trouble.
	Of course.
	Okay.
	I have to be careful because it's an ongoing civil suit and so I have to make sure where the parameters are.
	And so she...
	Her friends, we impeach, you know, we casually ask the friends on the stand saying, oh, you know her.
	Do you party with her?
	Like, yeah, we party every weekend.
	Oh, do you drink together?
	Like, yeah, we drink all the time.
	And so it's like her own testimony is like that she doesn't drink.
	And then it's also other stuff like, oh, yeah, I've never had sex for six months before the incident.
	She had not had sex for six months before.
	And that was also only in a committed relationship with her ex-boyfriend.
	And after the incident, the nurse was female.
	The person who took her to the nurse was female.
	Everybody involved was female.
	And the DNA report from the state of Connecticut expert witness says, yeah, there were male DNA found all over her body, in particular in her anal swabs.
	And let me say, not your DNA.
	Not mine.
	So mine was found in the places where I said, you know, we had sexual contact.
	Because I was like, look, this is what we did.
	That's where my DNA was found.
	And there was non-Sythe male DNA.
	And the expert witness testified multiple times that, yes, this is not Sythe's DNA.
	It's other DNA, and it is guaranteed male DNA, XY chromosomes, and so on.
	I'll ask the question.
	DNA is not being used interchangeably with sperm.
	This could be saliva or other tissue.
	No, it is sperm male DNA.
	Okay, everybody knows that I have a massive fear of SCD.
	Okay, and do they know if it's one other person or multiple other males?
	So there was a little tactic we did at trial where we didn't delve into it.
	Who knows?
	It could be a friend.
	Could have been a gangbang.
	Could have been...
	Who has any fucking idea?
	Bottom line is, someone else's...
	And how long would that DNA remain testable for?
	Within a week?
	I'm not an expert on that.
	I'm sorry.
	The proximity of that DNA to yours.
	The temporal aspect...
	Look, it's...
	I'm sorry for being crass, but I guess it's an anus, so stuff goes out of it on a daily basis, so people poop.
	And in that excretion process, you'd expect the DNA to be expelled recently.
	And so I'm going to assume that it is, I guess, fresh.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry for being crass, but...
	Don't worry.
	This is a different world for me.
	All right.
	So the DNA of at least another man, not yours.
	Yes.
	At least one man, yes.
	Okay.
	How long does she testify for at the criminal trial?
	So she kept screwing herself over.
	I think she testified for like two days.
	Wow, okay.
	Because she just kept lying about all sorts of things.
	All right.
	So the most stunning contradictions would be a number of things, but the DNA of other men.
	Did she explain why she went to get the test or go to the nurse shortly after the encounter?
	Yeah.
	So she knew me as, I guess, a sexually promiscuous person.
	So she just, I guess, wanted to protect herself from STDs and pregnancy and so on.
	Like, she did seem weirder than other girls I had been with because, like, she made me wear a condom for a blowjob, which I had never done.
	sexually understand it because it's you know you can have some STDs orally but it's like the chances are it's it's frankly silly but I was like okay blow jobs about blow job I was just horny college kid Okay, and then so now, so all the evidence comes down, you testify, I'd say quite clearly whether or not, well, your testimony probably comes off a little more compelling and a little more evidentiary based.
	Right.
	You get acquitted.
	Well, it's acquitted.
	You get found not guilty.
	How long did they deliberate for?
	So they deliberated for about three-ish hours.
	Okay.
	And I could hear them 45 minutes, an hour into the deliberation laughing, just...
	Roaring laughter.
	And then I was like, yeah, nobody's going to condemn a man to prison if they're laughing about it.
	They would be at least somber.
	All right.
	So you're found not guilty.
	Right.
	Testify vindication.
	What do you do next as it relates to Yale?
	Do you go back to Yale now and say, let me back in?
	And you've got some explaining to do?
	Well, the next funny thing that happens isn't something that I do.
	It's something that Yale Daily News does.
	And it was the funniest part to me in this entire saga.
	And by the way, when I say funny and I use these words like funny, it's a mental defense that I do for myself.
	Outrageous.
	It's outrageous what they did.
	I think I know.
	Right.
	I euphemistically say funny because it's like a way for me to dull down the anger and the annoyance and the sadness and the hurt and the harm.
	It's a self-mental defense because it's fucking horrendous.
	So what the Yale Daily News did the next day, so March 7th, I'm found not guilty.
	My innocence has continued to be presumed, just as every human, according to the American Constitution, is innocent.
	Until proven guilty.
	Yale Daily News says, not, not guilty.
	So not, not guilty.
	And they're saying, well, just because a court of law says you're not guilty, doesn't mean in reality you're not, not guilty.
	We still think you're guilty.
	Saif, just because I come prepared, I think, is this it?
	Yeah, this is it right here.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Not guilty.
	Neirenberg.
	Neirenberg.
	Amelia Neirenberg says, yesterday Saifullah Khan was...
	She worked at the New York Times because of this stuff, by the way.
	Oh, we'll read this later.
	So they say you were acquitted, but you're guilty until proven innocent, and then guilty even after proven innocent.
	I've been saying this for a while.
	It was funny.
	Like, look, it's just jarring to me.
	I'm going to give everybody that link now.
	They've got to read this.
	Okay.
	And so they're calling the jurors old and so on.
	And then I think, I wonder if it was this article where one of the jurors is then fighting Amelia and other commentators saying like, look, I looked at the evidence and this kid is innocent.
	There's a juror commenting on a public article saying like...
	We looked at the evidence.
	The kid is just innocent.
	She lied.
	I gotta bring this up, actually.
	No, we need to see this now in real time.
	My eyes are very bad.
	Readmitting Khan would be a grievous mistake as using legal standards of not guilty to not apply in a private community like Yale.
	The legal acquittal does not mean innocence.
	It does not mean that Khan did not engage in deepliest, dubious sexual...
	Oh my goodness.
	It just means that the jury could not find that the sexual behavior was, in their eyes, rape...
	Yeah, that's called innocent.
	Okay, so now they say this, they write this preemptively.
	Were you asking or seeking readmission the entire time?
	So, I guess they were...
	I don't know.
	Largely, I mean, I don't know what's going on in the minds of these bureaucrats and these sex police and honestly perverts.
	And so, yes, I was seeking readmission, but, you know, not the next fucking day.
	I think I sent an email to them like a few weeks later, like a month later.
	I was like, hey, you know, like by September, can I like come back to school?
	I came here to get a degree in cognitive neuroscience.
	Let me drink some water.
	It's just amazing.
	You've ruined my life for the last two years.
	You were expelled.
	The scholarship that they promised you, I presume they withdrew.
	Did they ask for reimbursement for the monies that they had already advanced to you?
	No, they were not that bad.
	And so now you say, can I come back?
	I don't know why you would ever want to go back, but it might be more difficult to get into another school.
	I mean, I couldn't get into another school properly because I have to leave the country, apply, and then come back in.
	Holy shit.
	Yeah, this is a nightmare.
	This is a nightmare.
	Right.
	And so, like, despite, you know, excuse me, avoiding prison, I'm now in an open-air prison in America, although I don't consider it as a prison.
	I love the nation.
	It's a fantastic mission.
	We know what you mean.
	Your options are severe.
	Your freedoms are severely limited.
	Or your options.
	Yeah, and so I actually offered right then to Yale, sent them a letter saying, look, I'm willing to bury the hatchet.
	I'm willing to offer an olive branch.
	I will sign any weird, stupid document you want me to sign, you know, signing away my rights and so on.
	Just let me get the degree.
	Let me get in, finish the degree, the thing I came to America to start.
	I got, you know...
	I'm sidetracked and hurt by this thing.
	And simultaneously, there is a 77,000 petition against me, signed by that many people, saying Yale should not readmit it.
	And they had comments on there saying things like Saif Khan should be shoved into a bathroom and raped a hundred times and all of his bones should be broken, his entire family should be murdered.
	And all sorts of just nasty, horrendous stuff.
	People calling me a sand nigger and like all sorts of crap.
	77,000 signatures.
	Did they have to be Yale students or could it be anybody?
	No, no.
	It was the internet, but the Yale students were commenting all over on the very platform that I created, the Overheard at Yale, which I had like relinquished platform.
	I was like secretly looking.
	People were saying nasty stuff about me.
	The stuff is still up, a lot of it.
	And yeah, the Yale students, there was constant media uproar against me, just not happy with me, you know, potentially coming back.
	And Yale did let me come back because legally they had to.
	And then they did their kangaroo court.
	And expelled me anyway.
	Okay, so hold on.
	That went fast.
	So, they let you back in next September?
	Like, the beginning of the next year?
	So, they technically let me back in, like, June-ish.
	And they wanted, they put their best teams on trying to make, find something to get me out on.
	They couldn't.
	Like, so I had...
	I've given them all the hard evidence, saying, hey, look, here's stuff that we have acquired from the criminal trial.
	I'm not guilty.
	And so I even gave them the 1800 pages trial transcript.
	And they took, I guess, just months to then redact like 900-ish pages of that trial transcript.
	Stuff where the judge and the prosecutor and the girl is talking.
	Anything that looked bad.
	On Yale or the girl, they just blacked out.
	They just redacted.
	And so they tailored.
	It took them months and months until they could, like, they disregarded their rape kit that Yale had taken.
	You know, the rape kit said there was zero signs of rape.
	And all of the evidence they just disregarded and then very narrowly tailored, and that took them a very long time.
	And then they said, well, we think you're guilty.
	And then they expelled me.
	And they put up these...
	They expelled you after readmitting you.
	Right.
	After your finding of not guilty.
	Right.
	I don't know where I read this, but I did read it.
	Someone else had accused you of something bad, right?
	A guy.
	Right.
	So it was another made-up crap.
	And so one thing that was crazy about that summer was I was accused by like 20 people at that point.
	And so it was people like, oh yeah, I met him freshman year and he was dubious.
	I want him expelled.
	I was in an elevator with him.
	I felt deeply uncomfortable.
	I would like to file a Title IX complaint.
	Can you stop?
	And so it was just a ton of just random people saying stuff.
	And that particular person that you brought up was somebody that wanted...
	A lot of fame.
	And so they wanted to get in on this aspect.
	And I don't want to get too much into it because it goes into the civil suit.
	One of the things that was really annoying to deal with was the amount of harsh and bad attention I was receiving.
	Because this was right at the height of Me Too.
	And so Time Magazine, New York Times, BuzzFeed, Huffington Post, LA Times, all sorts are talking about me.
	And so I'm getting, you know, girls sending me news.
	And girls sending complaints against me.
	And all sorts of attention from all sorts of crazy humans from, you know, the woodworks came out.
	And so, again, I was a naive kid.
	And so, just a shit ton of crazy, weird...
	It's the unspoken sort of, like, the catalyst.
	They all it becomes its own movement, so to speak.
	But so they let you back in.
	You actually go back for classes the next year, starting September, whatever, August, September.
	And at the same time as this 77,000 signature petition, they're trying to get you out.
	You're getting a slew of other random accusations.
	I don't feel safe with them around.
	He's in the timing hall with me.
	He looked at me.
	And so they conduct their own internal investigation around what time?
	It took them all these months.
	And so they were trying to make the perfect case against me.
	And the perfect case meaning they had to delete everything that was exculpatory.
	And so, like, if you look through my case file, it's like, holy shit, this is a horrendous, you know, situation that this person was innocent.
	But, like, if you take months to delete all that part and you just carefully, you know...
	You don't need to...
	We know how easy that is.
	I mean, they could take one statement out of context.
	But now, this internal investigation is going on before you go back to classes, after they've admitted you?
	So, both during classes and before.
	It just took them months and months.
	And are you...
	I think I know of the hackery of this, but are you invited to participate in this inquiry?
	Do they let you know what's going on?
	So, they're not.
	They're just inviting me to be present at the hearing where I'm given a couple of minutes to talk and defend for myself.
	My lawyer's not allowed to talk.
	My lawyer's not allowed to ask questions.
	There's, like, no thing that I could do.
	So, I just have a couple of questions.
	So, I read the Invictus poem, and I said some statements in defense of myself.
	It's just absurd.
	They took all these months to do all these things, and they...
	They disregarded every piece of hard evidence I provided, and they weren't willing to take in any witness, and they didn't allow me to even see the accuser, and they didn't allow me to ask any questions through my attorney and so on.
	The Supreme Court even said that Mr. Khan's attorney was rendered as a potted plant.
	A potted plant.
	So they do this whole thing.
	To call it a kangaroo court, it's a sham.
	They want you out.
	They've concocted this.
	They've crafted it.
	They invite you back.
	You go back in September.
	When do they expel you again once and for all or for good?
	So because of a lot of campus pressure around October, they say, hey, they call me.
	The general counsel calls me saying, look, there's a ton of campus pressure.
	Why don't you take a medical leave?
	Why don't you go F yourself?
	Why don't you piss off, take a medical leave?
	Is that going to give me a...
	Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	What did you say to that question?
	I just simply said, no.
	And then they said, well, you're put on an emergency suspension right now, effective immediately.
	And it was like, deja vu again.
	It's like, now you're suspended again.
	But now you have no recourse now, legally, because you've already been acquitted or found not guilty.
	So they say you're out.
	Right.
	And then a month, two months later, sorry, a month later, they hold a hearing where they invite me back and give me a few minutes to defend myself, but my lawyer's not allowed to talk, I can't ask questions, I can't do things, I can't submit things.
	And then two months later, around Christmas, they find me guilty.
	Sorry, they use the words responsible or not responsible.
	And the presumption never starts with innocence.
	The presumption starts with...
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah, and so then they expel me.
	And then I have the chance to appeal the expulsion.
	Good luck with that.
	To whom do you appeal the expulsion?
	The institution itself.
	Right, right.
	And yeah, and so then I'm out on the streets.
	I mean, this time I also expected it.
	I was like, no way in hell Yale is going to let me win at their own game.
	This is now, if we're in December 2018.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Right.
	And so you're out now and out for good.
	Right.
	And so then I take quite a few number of months to gather money and gather the conceptual idea of like, well, this is what happened.
	How do I go on the offensive?
	This entire time I've been on the defensive.
	And so by December of 2019, almost a year later, I've, you know, because it's difficult to raise money, it's difficult to...
	Which, by the way, I would appreciate the audience if they share...
	What is it?
	I'll find the...
	You have a Give, Send, Go, Convy, Yale, Give, Send, Go.
	Yep.
	And so I raise some money, I conceptualize, and I study the American legal system.
	Like, how does it work?
	Because I'm aggrieved.
	This is the legitimate Give, Send, Go right here?
	Right, right.
	I'm going to share this with everybody while we're talking.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and so it took me a while to figure out what's going on and how does one even attack?
	Like, what do you do when an institution older than America, 40 plus billion dollars in endowment, with their hands in...
	I mean, they control the local police.
	They have control over a significant chunk of Connecticut.
	You know how college towns, you know, have college where they have a significant impact on the economy?
	Yale has a...
	Dude, I'm seeing similarities between this case and the Oberlin case that didn't end well for Oberlin.
	The Gibson Bakery, yep.
	Right.
	And so, yeah, the New York Times reporter who reported on that story also wrote about me a few weeks ago.
	Vimal Patel.
	It took me a while, and I think I got the right concept.
	I sued the university, I sued the girl, and I sued the administrators involved, all the way to the president and the deans.
	And now it's defamation, among other claims, that...
	I think the number is 110 million.
	Right.
	Right.
	I won't ask how you got there.
	It doesn't really matter.
	But I don't think there's enough money on earth to compensate for this destruction of your life.
	So you sue them for defamation 2019.
	And now, I think I'm not wrong on the procedure.
	It gets dismissed.
	They make a motion to dismiss on the basis of sovereign immunity.
	So the university, I have about six claims or so against the university and the administrators.
	They can't legally file anything to dismiss my claims, but the girl...
	I can't say that part.
	So the girl then filed a 12b6, a motion to dismiss, saying, well, the yield procedures were just like regular court, and thus, because it is quasi-judicial, she should get absolute immunity.
	Whether she has lied or not, she gets complete Wow.
	against a girl get dismissed.
	That, you know, it's good public policy because there's a lot of rape victims out there, and so we should dismiss this case, whether it's genuine or not.
	It's just good, sound public policy.
	And so...
	I appeal.
	And I take it to the Second Circuit.
	A lot of people told me at that point to, you know, let the girl go and just go after the university.
	They have the money anyway.
	And I'm like, no, this is just justice.
	This is important.
	She harmed me.
	And I appeal to the Second Circuit.
	And the Second Circuit largely agrees with me in 2022, March, but sends some certified questions.
	To the Connecticut Supreme Court saying like, hey, we don't know Connecticut law.
	Can you tell us, you know, expound on these things?
	Like, what exactly is a quasi-judicial and what's considered quasi-judicial?
	The Connecticut Supreme Court comes back this summer, June 23, on the anniversary of Title IX, says Yale's procedures are, you know, I'm not quoting verbatim.
	are just absolutely not quasi-judicial.
	They're missing an oath, they're missing cross-examination, and a plethora of other important things that we consider as deeply important as part of a judicial process.
	Yale has none of those things.
	How can we possibly consider this quasi-judicial?
	It's so mind-blowing.
	We want immunity because it's quasi-judicial, and yet we run what is nothing more than a Kafkaesque A kangaroo court, sham of a proceeding, to destroy your life after you've already been out for two years, gone through a criminal trial, and found not guilty.
	Saif, just to show, I've supported now.
	L 'chaim, Saif.
	Thank you.
	Also, I have to make sure I'm comfortable with something before promoting it to other people, and I like to put my own money where my mouth is.
	L 'chaim and Shabbat Shalom.
	Yeah, well, I should be streaming on Shabbat, but whatever.
	I'm one of the rule breakers.
	So it initially gets tossed.
	They say she gets immunity because she's participating in some sort of, I don't know, quasi-judicial process.
	They say you appealed that decision to the appeals level of the Connecticut courts.
	So I took it to the Second Circuit.
	I've been having a fascinating...
	Journey through the legal system, just learning ins and outs of the criminal courts, the kangaroo courts, the federal courts, and now state courts.
	But as I've been going along, surprisingly, inadvertently, and to a degree, very intentionally, well, I guess, okay, not inadvertently, they keep putting up stupid articles in front of me, and I keep beating them.
	And as I beat them, I create these national precedences.
	That end up just sticking around forever.
	The New York Times, Huffington Post and elsewhere trashed my image for, you know, a couple of years.
	But Khan v.
	Yale, Khan v.
	Yale is history.
	That is not something Yale will ever be able to erase.
	That Supreme Court opinion is down in American history.
	And it shows that Yale was wrong.
	And that they were wrong, that it was a laughable procedure.
	Rendering your attorney a potted plant is such an amazing...
	I mean, it's an old analogy.
	Stuck in place.
	You can't talk.
	You can't walk.
	You can't do jack squat.
	You're an ornament.
	You're a trapped ornament.
	And the Second Circuit put Yale in a similar league as a criminal enterprise.
	In their language.
	Because they were saying, well, if we yield quality judicial status, well, what about a criminal enterprise?
	I mean, you know, like, essentially a gang has their own procedures.
	They're applying their own, you know, policies to their members and what they're doing.
	Should they be, you know, given absolute immunity to?
	There have been some institutions that have asked for no oversight, no judicial oversight, but...
	Okay, amazing.
	So the Second Circuit...
	And it's a devastating decision.
	Ultimately, they say, yes, you can sue the accuser.
	So that last part, it's not finalized yet, and we're waiting on it any day now.
	It's imminent and heavily waiting.
	The decision, the direction of the decision is already known.
	The Second Circuit, a federal court, cannot tell the state court what their state laws are.
	So we already know that it would be reversed and remanded to the district court.
	And so the girl will be back in the lawsuit and the defamation claim and the torturous interference claim.
	They both survived.
	But the Second Circuit's final ruling is any day now, and it's three ladies writing it and fantastic judges.
	And their language can shake up everything.
	These rulings in my case have already stopped Biden's regulations on Title IX because Biden was saying...
	Hey, these things should procedurally push for, like no cross-examination, no presumption of innocence, a much, much, much lower bar of preponderance of evidence, and so on.
	And the Connecticut Supreme Court says, like, if you have those things, you're not quasi-judicial at all, and you're open to being sued.
	And so the White House is like, oh, shit, we should not do this.
	And so, yeah.
	It is mind-blowing.
	I'm still blown away by the Yale police and their authority.
	And then this here, this really reeks, I mean, it reeks of, it has similarities to the Russell Brand story in nature and the Oberlin case in actions, because it was clear in Oberlin, they made up their mind, they were going to do everything they could to make that outcome come about.
	Tortiously interfered.
	They defamed.
	Administration was involved in it.
	And it was just an absolute egregious injustice that took years to remedy.
	And Viva, there was this surreal feeling that I had when I was going through the kangaroo court at Yale, where deep down I laughed.
	I was like, if I just jumped on this table and danced like a monkey, there would be absolutely no difference in the outcome.
	And the reason I thought that way was because there was literally no set of words, no set of actions that I could have done that would have persuaded these folks to decide in my favor.
	There was nothing that could convince them.
	I'm going to quote The Simpsons again.
	It's like Wiggum saying, well, the law can hurt you, but it can't help you.
	I'll be out in a few minutes.
	It's like, there's nothing you could have done to render, to get innocence.
	They could have, you know, more, dance on the table like a monkey, they're going to say you're crazy, clearly kick him out.
	Man, that's incredible.
	Who's your lawyer?
	It's Norm Pettis, right?
	He's Norm Pettis, and he's done a few J6s.
	Dude, we know Norm Pettis here.
	He represented Alex Jones, he represented the Jan Sixers, he's a good, I mean, I was watching him during Alex Jones's...
	I trust him blindly.
	He made me read Psalms 24, or was it 25, the one with the shepherd, during the criminal trial.
	And that man is one of the few people in the world who I will close my eyes and he says, walk three steps forward and I will do that.
	It's phenomenal.
	So now as it stands, they've...
	As it stands now, you could sue the university, they've remanded it to the original trial judge.
	What's the question that goes back to the original trial judge now?
	So, the litigation of all the claims against the university, the administrators, the girl, and there are about eight different claims, and the main claims I have against the university are just breach of contract.
	Fairness, implied fairness, negligent infliction of emotional distress, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and quite a few other claims.
	I go into discovery, baby.
	If Yale has any lesson to be learned, it will be from Oberlin.
	I know people who went to Oberlin who were mighty pissed off with Oberlin, where their annual donations were going.
	And so I don't want to ask, well, no, I'll presume that they're open to discussions now because this shit has just taken a turn for the worse for them.
	That direction, I cannot discuss what the outcomes related to Yale and I and any of those sorts of talks.
	However, what I can really and I'm genuinely excited for is I'm going to dig deep.
	I will go through every little fucking document and I will personally read it.
	Sure, my attorneys will read it and the paralegals will read it and so on.
	I am personally showing up to every single deposition and I'm reading every single word and I am taking it all the way, slowly, methodically.
	And the first step that I'm going to do when I go down to district court and I'm filing a motion to remove her Jane Doe status.
	So that I can then freely use her name and everybody can use it because, you know, it'll be publicly available.
	Because the public has a right to know who the litigants are at the very least.
	And two, she doesn't have any victim status.
	Three, the public has a right to know who false accusers are.
	What if it's, you know, somebody who's your neighbor?
	What if she's your doctor?
	What if she's your engineer?
	You know, the public has a right to know this.
	Yeah, no, no, it's super interesting.
	I was going to say something.
	Oh, geez, I forgot what it was.
	There's...
	Oh, no, so, meanwhile, your status in America, in the meantime, is what?
	Just pending asylum case.
	It's just horrendous.
	It's just waiting.
	I hate immigration has been worsened because it's like people who are genuinely waiting in line and don't want to break rules.
	We have it tough.
	But the people who are just crossing the border, they just get everything.
	I hate it.
	I try to think of the more cynical side of things.
	They failed on the criminal accusations.
	They've kicked you out of school and ruined your life there already.
	But if they want to play dirty and try to make things even harder for you.
	Okay.
	And now the next step for you.
	You're going to go to deposition if it gets there.
	I will go through every email, every text message, every meeting they had, every deposition.
	And it's not just low folks.
	It's the president.
	It's the deans.
	It's the people involved.
	Everybody who was in the Kafkaesque nightmare against me, I'm getting to them.
	It's amazing.
	It's got all the angles of the Oberlin, and it's taken the same direction in the same course.
	Saif, I don't think I could have possibly forgotten to ask you a question.
	Is there anything that you absolutely wanted to say that for some reason I forgot to ask?
	I think we got all the details out of the lawsuit.
	Yeah, I think there's one element that people, I guess, don't get.
	And it's partially related to, I guess, even wearing the Yale hoodie.
	And it's related to how I feel about Yale.
	Ultimately, I want to make them get better.
	They are an American god, or an American titan.
	We shouldn't be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
	We should be disinfecting the bureaucracy that has taken over these institutions and get those folks out.
	We don't destroy Yale.
	We punish it through large...
	Settlement awards.
	We punish it through governmental oversight.
	We change out the horrible ideologies that...
	I don't want to get into politics.
	The various horrible ideologies that have infested and infected these universities.
	So ultimately, I actually love Yale because I want to fix it.
	And so I think that's something that's often lost.
	It's an interesting perspective.
	I'm of the opinion that some of these institutions are too far gone.
	It's sort of like the Nobel Peace Prize, clean it up all you want.
	I will never regard it the same way that I once did.
	Doesn't have any meaning.
	No meaning anymore.
	In the chat, I'll just read two rumble rants.
	Mandatory carry says, others are being forced to, as we speak, keep fighting.
	And Sean47 says, Viva, do you remember the CBC host who had four accusers?
	I think it was...
	I want to say Jan Gomeschi, but I'm not sure if it was him.
	Later, it was revealed that they had emailed each other to coordinate his destruction.
	After that, I no longer give as much weight to multi-accusers.
	So there's no...
	I mean, we've seen the way it's sort of working out.
	Kavanaugh, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Russell Brand.
	It's par for the course.
	You expose yourself to this, Saif.
	When you do bad things, I won't say bad things.
	You certainly increase your risk when you engage in certain behavior.
	Anyone comes up to me and says, sexual misconduct, that's not going to be a plausible sticking point for me.
	And someone says, come back when there's an update.
	And if you will, Saif, please, I'd love to have you.
	Yeah.
	So I'm going to put the give, send, go in the pinned comment.
	I'm looking at locals to see if there's any questions here.
	Where is this young man living now?
	I may have missed it.
	I don't know if you can say it.
	You're in Connecticut?
	I don't want to give up a location.
	Doesn't matter.
	Let me see here.
	Just wanted to get one more question from here.
	And no, I think we've got it all.
	Saif, you stick around.
	We're gonna talk for a couple minutes afterwards.
	Of course.
	The kids have been, Oh, he's fantastic.
	No, no, I need it.
	Because I need to know the Alex Jones.
	We need to know the January 6th.
	And we're going to talk your case when there's...
	Okay, amazing.
	He's brilliant.
	He's fantastic.
	And he deals with judges in a way that I couldn't.
	Patient.
	And he finds a way to mock their bias like he did in that Alex Jones trial.
	There's one important element on that part that I am so...
	Goddamn lucky with norms down-to-earthness.
	He treated the judges with respect at every level that I've seen him.
	Yale's attorneys responded with hubris, bothered that the judges would even ask questions of him.
	You could see the tone and the hubris just oozing out.
	And honestly, those things help me so much when my opponents are stupid.
	Stupid, arrogant, righteous, and above all else, it's the racial angle to this that also drives me nuts.
	It's like, oh yeah, this is Yale.
	They talk about institutionalized racism, and then they see, it must be guilty he's from Afghanistan.
	I mean, we know what they do down there.
	It's crazy.
	Saif, stick around.
	I'm going to end this with everybody.
	We'll talk for a few minutes, and then I can also let the kids come in and really bother me.
	Thank you very much.
	So I'm going to put your Give, Send, Go in there, your Twitter handle, and we're going to follow up when there's news.
	Thank you, everyone.
	Have a wonderful evening.
	Peace out, everybody.
	See you all tomorrow, 6 o 'clock for the Sunday stream.

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