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May 12, 2023 - Viva & Barnes

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Live With America's Untold Stories

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	So even though they don't say to do it, I put the Manscaped oil in my beard as well.
	What's Manscaped oil?
	Oh, we're live.
	We're live.
	I'm joking, people.
	We knew this.
	We were talking about the wonderful curls in my hair before we got started.
	First of all, good afternoon, everyone except the West Coast.
	Good morning to you still.
	I'm blaming Mark Grobert for being late today because he was late.
	But for anybody who's driven on the Miami highways or the Florida highways, nuts.
	I've never seen anything quite like it.
	Some people were resorting to cannibalism.
	You know, just getting out of their cars and eating other people.
	That was bizarre, man.
	Even in L.A., they just shoot out the car windows with weapons here.
	Cannibalism.
	Face eating.
	It's bath salts, right, David?
	All I know is there are eight lanes of traffic on the 95. Then you got the turnpike.
	Then you got the other one, the 441.
	And despite all of that, there's still massive amounts of traffic.
	Good afternoon, everybody.
	It's in studio with America's Untold Stories, Eric Hunley, Mark Robert.
	And we were actually jokingly talking about what oils I put in my hair.
	And I was saying, I put in the Manscaped beard oils into my hair, even though...
	I don't know if they say you're not supposed to.
	What is Manscaped?
	Manscaped is that, you know the ad, it says...
	Intimate razor.
	It's an intimate...
	Oh, the razor?
	A ball shaver.
	Yeah, it started off as the ball shaver.
	This is not a sponsored video, by the way.
	This is just, I guess, free.
	Did you sponsor it as Manscaped?
	They occasionally...
	I've done them in the past.
	This is not one of the videos where they sponsored, but they started off as like shaving your...
	Your privates.
	And what, your back hairs and stuff?
	I don't know.
	I don't have back hair, nor do I have much hair down there.
	I'm highly involved.
	Tell us a little bit more about your hair.
	I traveled 3,000 miles to find out about your hair.
	Many people on the West Coast want to know what's going on.
	You look like a Greek god at this point with your head, the tan, the beard, the hair.
	And when I take off my shirt, it's even better.
	But the Greek gods typically had more, you know, six inches on me at least.
	But tell the world here because, Hunley, you're in from?
	Hampton, Virginia.
	Virginia.
	West Coast.
	Hollywood, California.
	And what brought both of you in, if I may ask?
	Your lustrous hair.
	Stop it.
	No, seriously, what are you guys in town for?
	I'm in town for the convention.
	Which convention?
	Tomorrow night, I think it's Saturday and Friday and Saturday, the Trump Mega Mega event at the Trump Doral.
	A bunch of speakers there, including Alex Stein 99, who I want to see on Saturday.
	Spoiler alert, I think we all have a date tomorrow night.
	I think so.
	I was texting Alex and we're going to be, I asked if we can live stream from the event.
	His description of the event was a little...
	Different.
	He called it a QAnon spinoff, but I don't know if that was a joke.
	They're all calling it different things.
	I spoke to someone who was trying to sell tickets to me over the phone.
	This guy was so jacked up.
	He was reading an explanation of it.
	It sounded like he was on fire, just going crazy, telling me what it was.
	The list of speakers, I mean, Roger Stone, who you've interviewed in this seat, I presume.
	Eric Trump is going to be there, and General Flynn, I understand, and many others.
	Okay, that should be fun.
	It should be interesting.
	I don't know.
	It sounds like something.
	I mean, I would cover it anyway as a reporter.
	It sounds like an event that seems to be happening under the radar, but it's a tour from what the guy did.
	Yeah, and from what the media was describing it as, it sounded controversial.
	I mean, I'm reading the description.
	No, no, that's why I want to get in there.
	It sounds controversial.
	Let me in.
	Oh, sorry.
	So today, by the way, it's in studio.
	It's going to be informal banter back and forth.
	Mark said, I can't ask.
	I should not delve too far into his childhood.
	My childhood?
	So let's start with that.
	Joking, I'm joking.
	But seriously, for those who don't know who you guys are, Eric, explain it.
	Oh, great.
	America's Untold Stories, where we cover obscure, unvisited history, like David Steeves, who was a pilot, super famous at the time.
	Nobody's ever heard of him, but has one of the most incredible stories you've ever heard.
	All the way to the JFK assassination, which...
	Of course, everyone is heard of, except you haven't really heard of anything, if you know what I'm saying.
	It's a good explanation.
	I mean, we covered the Jonas Salk, Albert Sabin polio vaccine feud I mentioned yesterday.
	I was doing a radio spot out of Montgomery, Alabama, with a guy down there named Greg Boudel, who used to be a DJ or radio guy here in Miami for 25 years.
	We were talking about the McKinley assassination, of all things.
	Well, that's coming up.
	And then we've done, like, Garfield, we've done Lincoln, we've done Smedley Butler, who's an incredible figure of history.
	Smedley Butler.
	Yeah, General Butler.
	He wrote the book War is a Racket, and was the first one to out the military-industrial complex.
	What year was that book?
	1935 or something?
	No, it was before that, because he was a World War I vet.
	Right, but the book came out.
	So it was during the FDR.
	Yeah, he uncovered a plot by the Morgan bankers to overthrow FDR and install a puppet regime in the United States.
	We're just going to randomly dive into subjects right now.
	I'm going to start into that.
	First of all, if you see me looking at the iPad here, I'm going to take questions from locals because we're on Rumble exclusively.
	With locals, so I guess it's not exclusive, but they're the same corporate structure entity.
	Who owns locals?
	Is this Rumble?
	Locals and Rumble merged.
	Was owned by Jerry Rubin, the radical...
	Well, it was owned by Dave Rubin.
	His brother is Dave Rubin, right?
	Jerry Rubin.
	I don't know if that's a joke or if that's true.
	He was the original QAnon shaman.
	If you look at pictures of Jerry Rubin, he looks just like the QAnon shaman.
	I don't know who Jerry Rubin is that I'm scared to...
	He was eventually hit by a car and killed at one point, I think.
	Is Jerry Rubin related to Dave Rubin?
	I don't know.
	I heard Dave Rubin was related to the journalist at the New York Times, Jen Rubin.
	That I don't know.
	He was the Yippee founder, wasn't he?
	Yeah.
	Jerry Rubin was a partner with Abby Hoffman.
	Just to clarify, that was a joke.
	Dave's joke on Twitter is that I'm not related to Jen Rubin.
	Why don't you just have a subtitle that says joke, joke, joke, like underneath you?
	I'll do...
	I'll tap twice whenever it's a joke.
	Anyone who's watched our show should be into it by now.
	Freeform Friday.
	Early.
	It's going to be Freeform Friday.
	What we are going to talk about today, obviously the Trump jury finding of perhaps the most, in my view, outrageous jury finding in my recent memory.
	What was the woman's name?
	E. Jennifer Johnson?
	E. Jean Carroll.
	E. Jean Carroll?
	E. Jean Carroll, who did an interview with Anderson Cooper, which was glorious for the record books, if anyone hasn't seen it.
	Link is sexy.
	What was the thing about feeding her dog some meat?
	That was foreplay.
	Squirrels.
	Yeah, dead squirrels.
	Feeding dead squirrels to her dog?
	She named her cat vagina.
	And I'm not, that's not a joke.
	This woman's crazy.
	So, we'll get there.
	Okay.
	We're going to talk about Chrissy Mayer.
	Did you hear Chrissy Mayer got heckled at a comedy club for making a joke?
	Oh, that was Chrissy Mayer?
	Yep.
	Oh, I didn't know who the comedy...
	Back in the news, I said, I DMed her and I said...
	Is she the one that passed out from the vaccine?
	No, I don't remember what her name is, but no, Chrissy Mayer...
	I don't ask vaccination status, but she's not the one who passed out and cracked her skull.
	Chrissy Mayer is this funny stand-up comic.
	Had her on the channel.
	It was great.
	She got heckled at a club for making a Dylan Mulvaney joke.
	What's a Dylan Mulvaney joke?
	Him?
	She said that...
	Oh, she misgendered him or something?
	No, she called him him.
	She called him a man, but her joke was that if you're going to transition, you know, day one is get the boobs.
	She said, if I'm transitioning, I'm getting a penis.
	I won't repeat her joke.
	She said, if I'm getting a penis, I'm getting one day one.
	It's going to be a big one.
	And then she made some jokes from there.
	That's funny.
	It is.
	And then someone said...
	Or we're going to get into it if we get into it.
	Oh, when are we getting into it?
	Is this the show now?
	This is the show.
	This is called Beaver Fry Loses Control.
	Is there another show we're going to do?
	Well, this is actually the first time we've done three persons.
	Can we curse on this show?
	You can curse all you want.
	Okay, I'm not going to do it, but I just want to know.
	Up the butthole, as we say.
	What are you saying?
	I said you could curse as much as you want.
	Up the butthole?
	What is wrong with you?
	You're out of a Beavis and Butthead comedy.
	This is my attempt to try to censor.
	You're like a cartoon character, aren't you?
	Okay, first question first before I forget.
	The book, Smedley, what was his last name?
	War is a Racket.
	War is a Racket.
	Smedley Butler.
	If I think that the revelation is going to be this guy in 19...
	That's 100 years ago.
	That's a long time to say, like, have they always been...
	Has the military always been a racket?
	Now I'm thinking back to Roman times.
	I'm thinking back to, like, ancient times.
	Has war always been a racket?
	Was that part of the thesis of the book?
	I don't know if it was a racket.
	He doesn't get into that.
	He just talks about how the United States Army has been sent around the world for corporations, and he's the first guy to say it.
	Is Matley Butler, who is a three-star general, Eric?
	A three-star Marine general.
	And if you look at Eisenhower's military-industrial complex speech, this is the precursor.
	Right.
	Literally, like he read Smedley Butler and says, oh!
	Smedley Butler was the one who went into all these countries on behalf of the sugar industry and behalf of South America and behalf of these different corporations to invade and take them over.
	After a while, Butler came to the revelation that he was a pawn in their game, only invading these countries for corporate interests.
	Also, you had Eisenhower tying in with MacArthur with Smedley Butler and the veterans.
	Oh, that's right.
	Oh, wow.
	I forgot about that.
	Yeah, I mean, you've got to see our episode.
	America's Untold Stories, the Smedley Butler episode, to really hear the whole story goes on for about an hour and a half.
	The chat says Viva's not going to be able to control Mark Robert, and then someone in response says, no one can.
	Who said that?
	Three-star general.
	What exactly does that mean?
	Because we know that we have a lieutenant general.
	I don't know anything about that.
	I was going to make the joke that Rachel Levine is a four-star admiral.
	Well, there's no stars for admirals, right?
	All of them, yeah.
	You have Rear Vice.
	So let's explain that.
	What a three-star general means, what a four-star admiral means, because I know that I looked up how Rachel Levine got four stars despite never serving in the military, but it's a civil position.
	It's nauseating.
	It's like the Surgeon General, that same basic principle, but a four-star means general or admiral.
	If you see another name in front of general or admiral, it's a lower level.
	It's kind of like you have a colonel, and below them is a lieutenant colonel.
	Now, what's ironic is on the lower ranks, it starts at lieutenant.
	I'm going to go Army because that's what I know.
	You go lieutenant, captain, major, colonel.
	But then when you go to the generals, a lieutenant general is higher than a major general.
	Weird.
	But a lieutenant is lower than a major.
	So it's almost like an Abbott and Costello routine when you look at the rank structure.
	For everybody who doesn't know, Hunley was in the military for eight years?
	Not quite.
	Like six and a half.
	And there is a joke in there that I don't make, but your position...
	Well, he's been AWOL for 17 years.
	That's a joke.
	Shut up, man.
	There's pictures of him everywhere.
	What was your position?
	I know you mentioned it the first time I interviewed you when I delved into your childhood.
	What was your position in the military, or what did you do?
	I started as a cook in the worst job in the Army and the worst duty station in the Army.
	So cook at Fort Irwin in the middle of Barstow, California, outside of Barstow, California.
	Where I've been many times.
	Yeah.
	And am I right?
	When you drive through Barstow.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You don't stay there.
	I have stayed there, but not overnight.
	Well, and probably when your car broke down.
	That's what the Patton Museum is.
	In his tank museum, General Patton has those tanks out there in the desert.
	He doesn't have them.
	I mean, there's a General Patton tank museum out there.
	You see all the tanks on the road.
	Now, I know that at the time, Eric made the joke that I was lowly in the kitchen, and people in the chat were saying, that's the most important position.
	In a boat, you keep the other people happy.
	You have power.
	You have control.
	You have a responsibility, is what people said.
	So don't downplay your role.
	But six and a half years in the military.
	Yes, and then I moved on away from that position into a cargo specialist and learned that if you manipulate things right, you can do what you want and not actually perform your day job.
	Okay, interesting.
	So the thesis of that...
	Smedley, and I'm going to forget his last name.
	Butler.
	Butler.
	I can only remember the first name.
	You can remember Smedley, which is the weird one, but Butler's hard.
	That's a given name.
	His name was Smedley.
	Not to make fun of it.
	That was a popular name back then.
	Everybody in America is named Smedley at once.
	That's right.
	John or Smedley.
	Those are stage names, and then they had to change it.
	So he's calling out the military-industrial complex nearly 100 years ago to say that when we go into countries...
	We're not bombing Yugoslavia for peace.
	We're not invading Iraq for democracy.
	There's ulterior motives that have to pay a dividend to the initial investment to go liberate and promote democracy.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	He was sent as a Marine into all kinds of countries.
	He was in Haiti.
	He was the governor of Haiti for a while.
	He was everywhere in Mexico.
	He was in Costa Rica.
	He was in Haiti.
	I mean, everywhere they had an issue, they sent this guy with a Marine regiment.
	And you've never heard of him.
	Imagine that.
	I've never heard of him.
	I'm never going to forget Smedley.
	And you know every general there is.
	I mean, I remember seeing your bio.
	It says expert on U.S. generals.
	My military expertise consists of having watched Top Gun, the new one.
	What was it called?
	Maverick?
	Maverick, yeah.
	It's great.
	Oh, you know, we touched on the Chrissy Mayer.
	Let's get into it.
	Okay.
	We'll start with the fun stuff, and then we'll get to the...
	Funner stuff.
	A woman with a cat named Vagina.
	I mean, it's...
	Well, it is a pussy.
	I was just going to say that.
	I put two and two together.
	I put pussy and vagina together.
	Just keep saying that a couple more times.
	Pussy, cat, and vagina.
	Chrissy Mayer's at a club.
	It's in Texas.
	I don't know exactly where.
	She's doing a bit.
	Probably one of Rogan's.
	It was not one of Rogan's.
	I don't think it was Rogan's.
	If the chat knows, I'll look and see.
	She put out a tweet, and it's a damn good promotion for her special release.
	I'm going to watch it.
	And the joke is...
	365 days.
	How long has Dylan been transitioning and he doesn't have boobies?
	Not only that, Dylan brought the bulge back in bikinis, remember?
	Is that true?
	Yes, normalize the bulge.
	I don't know anything about this.
	I'm just glad to be here to be able to learn some of these pop culture things.
	You can teach us about the history of military warfare and we'll expose you to the contemporary, the modern issues that are the real important ones.
	Who was it?
	Oh, Tyler Fisher, another stand-up comic.
	I'll tell you something unusual I recently found out about Dylan Mulvaney.
	His family's very wealthy and they owned the San Diego Padres at one point.
	This is a serious statement you just made.
	I just want to contribute something to the show.
	Not only are you contributing something, that is highly relevant information in determining, not modus operandi, but mentality.
	Long lineage in San Diego of money, deep money.
	Okay, very interesting.
	Oh, hold on.
	Tyler Fisher made a joke.
	He had a stand-up.
	Another comic was on the channel twice.
	He says, you know, Dylan Mulvaney, who for some reason has become the spokesperson for everything, which is kind of funny.
	I think he's a spokesperson for Oil of Olay.
	No, worse.
	My mother and grandmother used.
	Tampax.
	Yes.
	In fairness, Tampax are very useful.
	If you have a broken nose, you put the tampon up the nose.
	I'm sure it was part of the nose.
	Okay.
	There's someone called Queenie, by the way, out of Texas.
	I don't know if you know about Queenie.
	Queenie disrupted the Texas legislature when they were trying to pass some trans bill about not mutilating children.
	Went berserk in front of the Texas legislature.
	And then got rewarded to be the spokesperson for Smirnoff Vodka last week.
	Mark, the problem is now I don't know when you're being serious.
	No, this is all serious.
	No, no, no.
	Modern day, satire is dead.
	That's why he's not doing National Lampoon anymore.
	What's the person's name again?
	Queenie.
	Queenie.
	What type of tantrum?
	Was it the screaming thing that we saw to San Diego?
	From what I read, it's something like that.
	Yeah, she went berserk.
	She went berserk.
	I have no idea who this person is.
	And so the reward is, let's partner you up with an alcoholic label.
	Smirnoa Vodka in this case.
	Okay.
	Well, you got Bud Light to Smirnoa.
	Hold that beer.
	The list of banning...
	The list of boycotting corporations is endless.
	Today, Target announced that they were going to put in for infants and toddlers LGBTQ clothing inside of Target.
	So you can add that corporation.
	What exactly is that?
	It's like, okay, if you get a girl, go to the boys' section.
	Rainbow-colored clothing, I guess.
	Okay, I saw that tweet.
	I haven't read that article.
	So Christy Mayer's doing a bit and talks about Dylan Mulvaney in his 365 days of girlhood, hasn't gotten breasts, and is normalizing the bulge, which is a penis.
	You saw the story about...
	The person who...
	Where was it?
	It was...
	We had to refer to it as her penis.
	The YMCA case where they had a...
	You're the expert.
	This is your world.
	I'm just visiting your transgender world.
	Welcome to this.
	Welcome to this.
	Parentheses of the discussion today.
	So she makes a joke.
	Someone in the chat says...
	Someone in the crowd.
	Someone in the chat.
	Someone in the crowd shouts out, because he's a man.
	And then someone else in the crowd shouts out, she's a woman.
	And then Chrissy Mayer's reply to these...
	Are there not hecklers so much as they're just active participants?
	That's a heckler.
	She says, yeah, okay, you could consider Dylan a woman, and some of us live in reality, and others don't.
	And then the crowd starts laughing, and then there's a cut, and then the women who are saying that Dylan Mulvaney is a woman call her an effing transphobe.
	They get up and leave.
	There's a bit of a back and forth, and that's the scandal.
	I didn't share the article, because it was on Fox News, and I'm no longer sharing Fox News articles, but that's where I Googled it and found it.
	Chrissy Mayer was like second story on Fox News Digital, which is second time in a month that she's been in the news.
	Mark, what's your...
	Hey, we've got to get her on before she's too big.
	I don't even know what you're talking about, but go ahead.
	Chrissy Mayer.
	I'll give you her number.
	With Chrissy's permission, of course.
	Mark, how old are you?
	What is it?
	What is your problem with my personal life?
	Why don't you stay in your own lane?
	I don't ask you any questions about your life.
	I come here, I come to Miami, you're grilling me like the Gestapo.
	We were talking before, I was like, Mark, is it public how old you are?
	He says it's not, and don't ask.
	So, that's the joke.
	Doesn't matter.
	But you've been around longer than...
	Oh, hold on.
	I'll tell you what.
	If you watch America's Untold Stories, he has shown his actual ID.
	Have I?
	Yes, and an arrest record that does show a birthday.
	Oh, right.
	So if you go through our catalog...
	It was a DUI.
	Oh, right.
	It was a drunk driving school years ago.
	But I'm not going to say which episode, so everybody needs to watch all the episodes.
	We've done 350 videos, Eric and I. Right?
	Well, a lot of them are shorts, but yeah.
	Right, but it's 350 videos.
	I don't even know what he's talking about half the time.
	You have a criminal record, Mark?
	I do not have a criminal record, but I was jailed.
	Not presently.
	I was jailed.
	I'll tell you something.
	I went to jail.
	There was an episode, didn't it?
	Mark went to jail and you maybe supplied LSD.
	It used to be the capital of New York.
	It wasn't the capital.
	I'm sorry.
	Kingston was the capital.
	Cats goes across the Hudson River on the other side.
	But nevertheless, I was driving.
	I got apprehended by the police.
	And it was one of those deals where it was an old parking ticket from years ago.
	And there was a warrant out.
	So they put me in the Greene County prison.
	And in that prison, I was handed a novel by a prisoner from the other side.
	And I didn't see it.
	I just saw the hand coming over underneath the shower.
	And he handed me a novel.
	And I took the novel.
	Took it back to my cell.
	And in my cell, I had a book with a library pocket in the back.
	And in there, in that pocket, was 150 hits of blotter acid.
	Because it was in my car, and I didn't want to leave it in the car to be found.
	This was when I was a drug dealer.
	Don't ask any personal questions.
	I don't have an arrest record set.
	Anyway, so I'm in jail without an arrest record for this beef with the car of some old parking ticket.
	And I had to take the acid and put it into this pocket of a book in the library book.
	So I tore off about 20 hits of acid.
	I put it back in the guy's book.
	Went back to the shower and I said, turn to page 132.
	It'll be crazy.
	And he disappears with the book.
	Half hour later, the guys on the other side of the cell, they were on a waiting list to get to Attica prison because it was much better to be in Attica than to be in a county.
	Jail, I guess, at that time.
	So they were on a waiting list, a VIP list.
	They were mostly murderers, they told me.
	And they had to get on this VIP list.
	But anyway, there's about five of them.
	And they take this acid and they go crazy.
	They're just banging their cups against the bars, climbing the bars.
	And then the prison guard came in.
	His name was Boozer.
	And he had a face like one of those Sharpay dogs, like all wrinkled, like he looked like the poster boy for alcoholism.
	And that guard came in.
	And he said, what the hell is going on in here?
	And I said, I have no idea.
	And on the other side, they were just going crazy on acid, these prisoners.
	This is years ago.
	Was the acid back in the day stronger?
	Yeah, it was clean.
	It was 250 micrograms of blotter acid.
	It didn't have anything in it.
	You want to get technical about it?
	Not that I know.
	Okay, 250 micrograms.
	I'm here to answer your questions.
	How did we get onto the arrest?
	I don't know.
	Okay, so you've been around longer than us.
	Right.
	What's your impression of what you see going on in the world in terms of all of this stuff?
	You might not be into it, but transgenderism, drag shows for kids, Target, you know, corporate America, corporations in general.
	What's the word I'm looking for?
	Co-opting?
	It's funny because Abbie Hoffman said, Abbie Hoffman, the famous leftist radical, said that America...
	It does one thing and that's co-op people and they wanted to co-opt.
	Abby Hoffman.
	Take him into the system.
	Because he had been so famous.
	He was a media freak.
	He had written a bunch of books.
	He had a movie that was about to be made.
	In fact, they've made a couple of movies.
	One of them recently by Aaron Sorkin called The Chicago 7. Where he's portrayed by Sacha Baron Cohen.
	Who's about, I want to say, 29 inches taller than Abby Hoffman.
	And he didn't bother with the transcripts of the actual court.
	Like three movies have been made on The Chicago 7. The reason I mention Chicago 7 is because the 1968 Democratic Convention was held in Chicago, and the 2024 Democratic Convention is going to be held in Chicago, which is really going to be humorous because there's going to be candidates who I believe they're going to try to keep out.
	Kennedy again?
	Yeah, I think they're going to try to keep out Bobby Kennedy Jr. from physically coming in the building.
	And I recommend it on the show that he get passes from somebody else and get in there and try to have his message up on the platform, which I don't think they're going to allow him to speak.
	So that's going to be an interesting thing to see what happens in Chicago.
	But when Abby was at the peak of his game, when he was on the run from the FBI, he was facing life in prison for selling cocaine to two undercover agents in the Diplomat Hotel in New York in the summer.
	He was selling about...
	I want to say like six or seven ounces of cocaine.
	So he was looking at life in prison in Attica, of all places, under the new Rockefeller laws, which were really draconian drug laws that were put into effect the year before.
	So they came out with an Abbie Hoffman doll.
	That's how you get co-opted, is when they have a doll of you, Viva.
	So when the Viva doll comes out, you will then be part of the system.
	Aviva bobblehead would be a good...
	That's what I'm talking about.
	I have a bobblehead myself.
	By the way, we have an Abbie Hoffman episode.
	Oh, right.
	I forgot.
	I think I know roughly what Abbie Hoffman looks like, but I get Abbie Hoffman.
	And I presume he's a Jewish boy.
	Yeah, Hoffman.
	Well, you never know.
	Two N's could be German.
	Well, it's only one N in this case.
	Hunley, having been in the military...
	And on the subject of the trans drag, all this stuff, the new marketing campaign, the marketing video for the, I think it was the Navy or the Army, where they were having drag?
	Oh, the Navy.
	It was the Navy.
	Yeah.
	Do you still have, like, connections into the military who give you this, you know, the lowdown of what the sentiment is?
	No.
	I didn't even when I was there.
	Mm-hmm.
	You're asking me?
	No, that's my question.
	I was there during Don't Ask, Don't Tell, for God's sake, which then went away.
	No, but that's interesting.
	What was Don't Ask, Don't Tell like?
	My impression would be it's not Don't Ask, Don't Tell because we're going to beat the ever-loving piss out of you if we find out.
	It's we know, but we don't talk about it.
	Now, I have no idea.
	So which way was it?
	I would say that Don't Ask, Don't Tell was codifying what it already was.
	There have been gays in the military since the dawn of time, but they don't talk about it.
	So essentially, Don't Ask, Don't Tell was, okay, we're going to put it in writing.
	We won't ask.
	You don't tell.
	Don't make a show of it.
	Well, now it's, please ask so we can celebrate.
	You know, in today's episode of Gay Life, we'll be addressing many of these topics that are on the front burner of American culture.
	Welcome to the show.
	It is, well, it is, I was just Googling, like, when did drag shows become...
	A thing.
	And then you go to Google Trends, and it's like, okay, since 2004, I think is when Google Trends started.
	2020, give or take, boom.
	Take it back to Polyester, John Waters' movie with Divine.
	Oh, God.
	Divine, who had some interesting eating habits in movies.
	Check out Polyester, the movie.
	Explain exactly what that means.
	I'm not going to watch the movie.
	I mean, John Waters was a great director.
	He had movies with Johnny Depp, and he's had a bunch of films, John Waters.
	John Waters is the...
	Is known for horror film directions.
	No, no, no.
	It was more of a cultural icon.
	Edgy films out of Baltimore.
	Art school, almost.
	He was a contributing editor when I was editor of National Lampoon, so I met John a number of times coming up to the office.
	He's got the thin mustache, very character-looking.
	Good.
	We'll move on from this subject.
	You mentioned something about RFK not going to be allowed into the convention this year.
	They're going to work their way.
	Did you see his most recent tweet, or a recent tweet, where he says, Quell any concerns I'm never going to join a ticket with Trump regardless?
	I don't know what concerns he's talking about.
	What I'm curious about is his road to the nomination.
	Like, what is the pragmatic route for him to, in theory, get the nomination other than the death of Biden or Biden's withdrawal, which is the only way I said on the show could be possible, which is what happened in 1968 with his father.
	His father running when LBJ is withdrawing from the nomination, from the second term.
	Making it a wide-open field, David, for anyone, that's the only way I could see him getting to the nomination.
	My theory is that he's suing everybody on the way, just like he's suing ABC for cutting off his interview.
	So he can run.
	To test the system, literally suing every step.
	I'm saying the idea of actually getting the nomination, physically getting the nomination against an incumbent is basically impossible unless, like in 1968, his father ran against an LBJ who withdrew from the nomination for a second term.
	Thereby opening up the field pretty wide.
	And without putting the zeitgeist, the obvious zeitgeist, or I should say the juju out in the universe.
	Did you say juju?
	Juju, the juju.
	It's called juju.
	What do you think I'm dealing with here?
	You're dealing with juju is what you're dealing with.
	Without putting that juju out in the universe, we know what happened to his father and his uncle.
	Biden could...
	I'm going to quote your 360 cameras.
	Yeah, we're fine.
	Another Tyler Fisher joke.
	Who's Tyler Fisher?
	Tyler Fisher's a good stand-up comic.
	Where do you know all these comics from?
	I'm in the comic milieu.
	He's a cultural relevance.
	I know.
	I'm more contemporary than historical.
	Tyler said, you know, Joe Biden might be the only president who, I don't even know if I want to make the joke, might get, you know, by time.
	That's the joke.
	You know, this guy's 82 years old.
	Oh, you're talking about, like, his assassin will be time or so.
	His fascination would be time.
	That's Tyler, you know, his agent.
	Which is, you know, the truth in jest is, like, Joe Biden is old and not well, and everybody knows it.
	Even if...
	Yeah, it's not far-fetched.
	No, no, even if he...
	For God's sake, he's past the average lifespan.
	I mean, that's a fact.
	Especially since the average lifespan is now down two years since what the governments have done to the world in the last three years.
	Even if...
	Let's say he was...
	I'm not well, I'm withdrawing.
	There's nothing that RFK is going to do to get the nomination.
	There's nothing that anyone is going to be allowed to happen for him to get it.
	There are going to be primaries.
	So in theory, if you get onto the California primary, onto the ballot for these primaries, you're going to get delegates who are going to swing in your direction.
	There is a legal way to do it.
	Even if they box out having debates, he can go on a debate stage with the other candidates and have a debate without Biden.
	I mean, that's not far-fetched.
	But was there not the issue that, like, even if the delegates go a certain way, the superdelegates don't have to abide by the delegates?
	If Biden withdraws, that frees the superdelegates to go in different directions.
	Yep.
	I mean, if he's out, that's what happened with LBJ.
	The same thing.
	LBJ handpicked Hubert Humphrey to be his puppet candidate.
	In 1968.
	So RFK had a run against Hubert Humphrey and McCarthy.
	Humphrey to the right and McCarthy to the left.
	RFK was basically in the middle, left-leaning, his father.
	And then he gets, the accident happens in California after he wins the California primary.
	Accident, yeah.
	On June 4th.
	Ironically enough, it'll be exactly, I think it'll be 50 years exactly on June 4th, 2024.
	When his father was killed, that RFK Jr. will be in the California primary again.
	Wow.
	The same California primary.
	But let's just say...
	60, right?
	Yeah, 60 years.
	Biden withdraws, you know, willingly or unwillingly.
	They're going to put Newsom in there.
	As Marge and I have pointed out repeatedly, they are closing the vice on him, as you can sense.
	With the criminal indictment threats of his son and himself, both Barnes and I have said repeatedly that that is going to either force him out, buy them.
	This squeeze is coming internally.
	It's not coming from the Republican Party.
	The indictment squeeze, the criminal squeeze on him and his son is to, as Robert and I both pointed out, to force him out gently into that cold night.
	So they don't have to do anything health-wise or anywhere else.
	This is giving him an option to get out.
	This is what the squeeze is now.
	Okay, but then they replace him with Kamala, even though she's the most detested woman in politics, person in politics.
	Right, and then she's going to have to get into the primaries.
	She's going to have to run on her own, and that opens it up wide to Newsom, to Eric Adams in New York.
	The mayor, it opens it up to a...
	A Whitmore might jump in.
	Right, it's just a free-for-all.
	If we stop there, there are 360 million people in the States.
	The best candidates or the most obvious for the Democratic leadership after Biden.
	First of all, it's Biden now.
	An 82-year-old, what is he, 80?
	80 now.
	80, objectively suffering from...
	But he's 95 in Biden.
	Objective cognitive decline, no mockery.
	Second after...
	Kamala Harris, the most unpopular person in politics.
	Who else?
	Gavin Newsom.
	Let me just stop you there, because people say this all the time.
	She has like an 85% approval rating among black women in the Democratic Party, which is the base of the Democratic Party.
	What you're quoting is, across America's spectrum, her approval rating is extremely low.
	But that's not...
	And Barris can back me up.
	I told her to Rich Barris about this.
	The likely voters in the Democratic primaries are heavily skewed to black women.
	That's the base of the Democratic Party today.
	And she's got close to a 90% approval rating.
	I'm just talking in terms of overall assessment.
	You've got Kamala Harris.
	Then you've got Gavin Newsom, who Dave Rubin keeps putting out a meme of Gavin Newsom.
	Seems to be evil incarnate.
	At the very least, lack of taking responsibility for one's actions incarnate.
	Adams, Eric Adams.
	These are incompetent politicians, and this is the cream that has risen to the top of the political left in America.
	Not that the right might be much better.
	I can think of some candidates that are much better.
	What, Asa Hutchinson?
	Oh, sorry.
	Well, there's a populist left and there's a populist right.
	I mean, I don't know where Robert Kennedy Jr. fits into the Democratic Party.
	He's holding on to it for dear life, and it reminds...
	He's like Dershowitz.
	I was going to say, it reminds me of Alan Dershowitz.
	He's who says, the party has left me, I haven't left the party.
	Whatever your bubomysis is, I'm using that word specifically because you and your family.
	What's the grandmother story?
	What's the word of the day?
	Yeah, bubomysis.
	Bullshit.
	Okay.
	Okay, so whatever their rap is, I mean, the party is not going to have them.
	It's like a party you're not invited to anymore.
	I mean, where are the delegates going to come for RFK Jr.?
	He's not just...
	Doesn't have a lane.
	He's despised by the Democratic Party.
	He's despised by the woke left.
	He's hated.
	He's been censored.
	I mean, I don't get it.
	I don't get what the...
	I mean, I ask him, you know, if I see him, I'll ask him myself.
	I've known him for a while, and I'll talk to him about it.
	But the reality of it is, I don't know what he thinks is the route to the presidency.
	I'd like to know what he thinks.
	The lane is...
	It's to split the left so that they end up voting.
	No, no, but I'm saying the only way possible is for Biden to be either forced out or step aside, like what happened in 1968 with LBJ.
	He had an unpopular war in Vietnam.
	This guy's got an unpopular war in the Ukraine.
	The economy was into the shitter in 68. The economy's into the shitter now.
	Mark, they added how many millions of jobs?
	It's the best economy since the Great Depression.
	I've got 17 jobs.
	That was the joke.
	Yeah, great.
	We added a number of jobs because most people have to take two jobs now to make the end of it.
	Do we have a census coming up?
	Because that was Obama's big job push there for a little bit.
	The census is a big job push, yeah.
	Even the crazy cat lady who lives in my building went and took a job in the census.
	So RFK came up the other day.
	He makes a tweet, I'm not joining the ticket with Trump.
	I don't know what...
	Well, the more important tweet that he made was, if I get this job, I'm going to finish the job that my uncle Jack started, and that is the dismantling of the CIA.
	That was a much more important tweet.
	I don't want to ask the question because I don't want to put it out there, but it's the obvious question.
	Some people hypothesize that what was the reason for JFK getting assassinated was that he said, I'm going to dismantle the deep state, and the deep state said, good luck.
	One of the top reasons that people cite, yeah.
	Of course, nobody's confessed to the crime.
	He pissed off a lot of people.
	He had a lot of enemies.
	What did he piss off a lot of people with?
	Dismantling the CIA, which pissed off the deep state, which seems to control everything.
	Well, and also not being willing to go all in on Vietnam.
	Missile treaty with the Soviets.
	Missile treaty with the Soviets.
	He took the Turkish missiles out because of the Cuban Missile Crisis when we wanted to nuke the Soviet Union at the time, or the generals did.
	They came to him every day and they said, let's launch nukes against Cuba.
	And he'd go, nah, not today.
	What else you got?
	They come back the next week and they go...
	And JFK is the one who said no to Operation Northwoods after it got past the...
	They came to him with Operation Northwoods, which was not just shooting down at American Airlines with students on it.
	It had multiple...
	Shooting up theaters.
	Taking down planes.
	Was there an aspect of running those planes into buildings or was it just blowing up buildings?
	No, no, no.
	They didn't do that.
	But they wanted to shoot down a commercial airline with students on it.
	And blame Cuba.
	With phony MiG jets.
	That they would put on Cuban MIG decals onto it and shoot it down.
	And this, everybody has not heard of Operation Northwoods.
	Read Operation Northwoods.
	It's declassified by the CIA.
	You can read the document itself.
	It's on Wikipedia.
	I mean, it's confirmed fact.
	And this passed, I forget what, Department of Defense.
	It got approval at the highest levels and was nixed by JFK.
	And a year later, he's assassinated.
	Well, I mean, they weren't happy.
	They loved Operation Northwoods.
	Who wouldn't?
	Oh, there's also another person who...
	Might have gotten a job because he died that could be related.
	Oh, that's right.
	LBJ.
	The successor.
	Look at him.
	Maybe he was involved.
	When Roger was on, we had him twice, and we had audio issues the second time.
	Roger Stone.
	Yeah, no, he talked about it.
	He says the story was when he was having a drink with Nixon, and Nixon had been into his martini.
	He says, you know, loosened up a little bit, and he said, I wanted to be president.
	But I wasn't going to kill to do it.
	Right.
	That's a famous quote.
	Yeah, that's a pretty famous quote.
	He also said, I know that guy.
	That's Jack Rubenstein.
	Yeah.
	When he saw Ruby kill Oswald on TV.
	Unbelievable.
	No, there was a tweet that RFK put out above and beyond the not joining the ticket with Trump, which I thought was preemptively stupid because I don't think it was asking.
	I don't know why he's saying that.
	It's like answering the question that nobody's asking.
	Nobody's asking this question, bro.
	He thinks, like Alex Berenson, they're going to open their arms and take him into their world.
	He's dreaming.
	It's like the preemptive self-flagellation.
	Like, I'm not going to do that.
	Will you love me, left?
	How many times has Dershowitz said he's not a Trump supporter?
	How many times has Dershowitz What's John Turley done?
	Once you are no longer an ally to them, you're an enemy.
	Where's Taibbi going to fall in that?
	Is he going to go fully over or is he going to try to slip back in?
	He's already fully over whether he knows it or not because he's been given the boot to the back and he's out.
	I know, but so is Berenson, but that doesn't stop him.
	Whatever they say, they're still going to vote.
	You'll never know.
	You'll never know how they voted.
	If they vote Democrats, they're truly deranged.
	And if they don't, they'll never admit it.
	I have hopes for the future with Jose Vega.
	Oh yeah, did you see Jose?
	I did, and he's going to come on soon.
	Oh, sure, now that he's on my show.
	Who are the feeder leagues, Mark?
	I keep trying to get to the tweet.
	Come on, she loves me too, come on.
	How old's your mother?
	She's passed away.
	Okay, well I can't do that then.
	But you could ask her about her age.
	Yeah, you could ask her how old she is.
	You know, she lived pretty close to here.
	My grandmother was in, once upon a time, Century Village.
	No, they lived in Century Village too.
	They had a...
	A statue outside of Century Village.
	I don't know if you ever saw the statue.
	I was last there when I was making it.
	Okay, they had a bronze statue when you pulled into Century Village of the great, great vaudeville comic Red Buttons, which I just was in shock that Red Buttons was the face.
	Of Century Village.
	I don't know who Red Buttons is.
	I gotta Google Red Buttons.
	I gotta Google John Waters.
	Someone said we're gonna have a John Waters film festival.
	I might have seen some of his movies.
	John Waters was in a video that The Lonely Island did called The Creep.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Now hold on.
	I'm getting to the tweet.
	So above and beyond the I'm not joining the ticket with Trump.
	He puts out a tweet yesterday I think.
	On the border crisis, we have to treat the migrants with dignity as if...
	This pisses me off because there's no one out there on Earth who says we need to treat anybody without dignity.
	And I said, this is a nice fluff tweet.
	You've got to have something more concrete than this.
	This is Bernie Sanders-esque tweets.
	And we're too early for you to pull a Bernie because I don't yet have an RFK Jr. mug.
	If I do have one and he turns into a Bernie, I'll scrape off the RFK and it'll turn into a white mug.
	Well, what they did is the Bernie Sanders is sitting...
	Senator from Vermont who had huge rallies, huge support.
	Why would they waste their time with this guy?
	Bend over Bernie.
	I mean, they did it to Bernie.
	I haven't heard that one.
	I'm going to have to maybe use that.
	All right.
	Moving on.
	Well, it's a segue.
	Okay.
	From the Trump tweets to the Trump conviction, and it had to do with the dog feeding.
	Well, we're going to get into it.
	Okay.
	Apparently, he assaulted a woman in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's in 1853.
	Hold on.
	The assaulter, either late 1995 or early 1995.
	She doesn't know what year it was.
	No, it gets worse.
	Was it before Christmas or after Christmas?
	This was such a rigged case.
	She didn't even know what year the assault occurred.
	I'm going to ask the chat in locals in Rumble.
	I can't follow the Rumble chat.
	In locals.
	I've now been told that the deposition video, the 57 minutes of Trump testifying, was his evidence and not the plaintiff's evidence in the case chat.
	Let me know if that's the case, because if it is, and I'm sitting there saying, do they really think this deposition makes Trump look really bad?
	It didn't make him look really bad.
	The jokes about the lawyer, you're not my type, is a stupid thing to say in the context of a sexual battery sexual assault case, but...
	If it was his lawyers that submitted that, now I think that his lawyers were sabotaging him in this case.
	There was a no-win case, as Robert pointed out.
	The jury was rigged.
	The judge was rigged.
	The case was rigged.
	I mean, to debate the case is farcical.
	Let me steal man it for the crowd out there.
	I'll steal man this.
	Steal person this.
	David Steele.
	Do not miss gender stealing.
	I'm going to steal person this.
	I'm going to steal being this.
	This is a woman, E. Jean Carroll, who I...
	She was a famous blues singer.
	Columnist, Saturday...
	Saturday Night Live writer she wrote for SNL, I think she did.
	She mentioned that in deposition.
	Are you kidding me?
	No, it's been bad for a while.
	I didn't know that.
	She alleges that Donald Trump...
	She's the one that destroyed SNL?
	One of.
	Oh, really?
	Judging from my scene so far...
	Did she work with Woody Allen?
	How far did her comedy writing career go?
	You asked that question, and now that there is an overlap in tweets from Mia Farrow, who tweeted on Trump's deposition saying, I've been in Hollywood for a million years and most people don't grab, as if she's never heard of the casting couch, or as if that's not a proven fact and just, you know, rumor.
	Okay, E. Jean Carroll, an elderly woman now, claims that Trump...
	No relation...
	Eli Wallach or E.G. Marshall.
	Or Lewis Carroll for that.
	She says she's leaving the Bergdorf, which is a, I don't know, like Fifth Avenue type store.
	On the way out, she sees Donald Trump coming in.
	He recognizes her because she was a columnist or whatever.
	She recognizes him because he's a billionaire tycoon.
	He says, I need you to find something for me for a woman.
	And she's ecstatic.
	Let's go shopping together like Laverne and Shirley, like running through the city.
	They go through the Bergdorf, the store.
	They go through the various floors.
	They go through the various departments.
	This is her explanation on CNN with Anderson Cooper that was so outlandish.
	Even Anderson Cooper was laughing about it.
	She says, we meet.
	We go up there.
	Ordinarily, the Bergdorf is full of people.
	It was empty.
	And then Anderson Cooper says, well, people are going to have trouble believing this.
	How is the Bergdorf empty?
	Especially, hold on, if it's late.
	1995, Christmas season.
	Thursday afternoon.
	I'm sure that it's going to be empty during the holiday rush, so maybe it was 96. She says...
	She doesn't know what year it is?
	She doesn't know what year.
	Her friend narrowed it down to spring 96. She says...
	Thank God they extended the statute of limitations.
	And apparently, she had a role, at least according to her lawyer.
	She gave an interview the other day where she...
	Her lawyer blurted out that Carol had a role in lobbying for that legislation, which she then subsequently...
	That sound clip is out there.
	Anderson says, look, people are going to have trouble believing this was empty.
	Why is she allowed to talk about this, but he can't tweet on True Social about the case?
	Well, this was nearly four years ago in June, the interview with Anderson Cooper.
	So she says, in response to Cooper saying...
	Nobody's going to believe the store was empty.
	She goes, Burgdorf's is the best store on the earth.
	Anything you want, they're there for you.
	You want water?
	They'll give you water.
	You want something and they don't have it?
	But by some miracle, the floor was empty.
	And by some miracle, the changing room was unlocked.
	And she says this, ordinarily they're locked, a clerk unlocks them, lets you in.
	He put me in there and then he did it.
	And there was some other...
	Now this was...
	Hold on, this is...
	Didn't...
	Didn't he pick out a transparent jumpsuit for her that she was going to try on?
	Oh, that's right.
	She said, try it on.
	Then she said, why don't you try it on?
	But there was one more thing about the door being unlocked.
	I'll get to it in a second.
	Oh, sorry, that's right.
	How old is she at this age?
	Well, she's 96. I mean, she's got to be.
	She's 96 now.
	She was 50-some-odd, I guess, back then.
	Would that make sense?
	I don't think it would make sense, but you're saying he was hitting on a 60-year-old woman?
	No, she wasn't 60 back then.
	She was in the 30s probably.
	Hold on, I remember now.
	In the Anderson Cooper interview, she's saying how she got raped.
	And then Anderson Cooper says, you know, a lot of people think that that's sexual.
	And she says, no, it wasn't sexual.
	It wasn't sexual.
	And he says, well, most people think it's sexual.
	And she goes, well...
	No, it's the reverse.
	She said it wasn't sexual like people think.
	He goes, no, I think that it is a violent crime.
	No, I think that most people find rape is sexy.
	Rape is sexy.
	Is this what she says to Anderson Cooper?
	And he said, I got to go to commercial.
	As in like fantasy.
	And then Cooper's like, all right, we're going to cut the commercial.
	And then he says something about being fascinating.
	And she goes, well, you're fascinating to talk to.
	But she literally said, rape is sexy, and people view rape as sexy and as fantasy.
	Which is then how I sort of viewed what she described as, it's a busy store.
	Best store on the earth.
	People there left, right, and center give you water.
	But then, when we were there, no one was there.
	And we had our, like, Donald Trump went through several floors, and a door was unlocked.
	And we went into it.
	I mean, it sounds like a crazy fantasy.
	Or a demented fantasy.
	What about the dog eating the thing?
	That's what she says, foreplay.
	A dead squirrel is sentient for good foreplay for dog intercourse, from what I understand.
	Well, I'll tell you one thing.
	I read an article about a man who ate squirrel brains and then died of a brain infection.
	So don't do that.
	It's not kosher anyhow.
	Although some people have said squirrel brains is actually delicious.
	Well, squirrels can give rabies, from what I understand.
	Apparently eating brains of any animal is just a risky proposition.
	Monkey brains, too?
	Monkey brains?
	They have a table.
	Yes, they're alive.
	Have you seen that?
	I saw it in the documentary Faces of Death.
	One of your favorite movies.
	That was fake.
	That was a stage scene.
	That monkey was fake.
	They cracked open his nose.
	They ate him like it.
	I haven't seen it since I was 13. That was the wet bar.
	It was like a wet bar.
	Yeah, but that's where COVID-19 came out of.
	It was like a monkey bar.
	Oh, look, I saw that movie when I was 13. I had nightmares and I still think it was...
	Did you see Cannibal Holocaust, by the way?
	I did not, nor will I, but I saw the famous still from it.
	So hold on, no.
	The squirrel being aphrodisiac for dogs, her cat was named Vagina.
	During the trial, they got in as evidence, the judge allowed as evidence, two other women who accused Trump of similar...
	One woman said in the 70s she was invited into the last remaining open seat on a first class flight.
	Who's saying this?
	This was another woman who testified not about what happened to Carol.
	Anybody could come in and testify?
	Anybody could come in and testify about allegations.
	Well, unless they're testifying for Trump.
	Right.
	Unless they're testifying for Trump.
	For Trump, they would not allow in the fact that E. Jean Carroll had referred to her previous husband as a racial slur for his race and allegedly had accused other men.
	What about the 21 assault she claimed?
	I had accused other men.
	So was that one a year?
	I don't know if it was 21. No, it's like 21. And when I made my video, I couldn't get the exact evidence that was not allowed in.
	So her prior behavior, which might explain fabrication or might explain other stuff, not allowed.
	They allowed witnesses to testify about what Trump allegedly did to them.
	No criminal charges, no civil charges, no conviction, no nothing.
	It's a kangaroo court.
	It's a kangaroo court.
	Proof of character.
	More prejudicial than probative, but let it in nonetheless.
	But you're blaming his lawyers.
	You're saying that they sabotaged him.
	I don't think any lawyers could have gotten him out of this.
	I'm going to go look to see.
	That's what you said earlier in episode three.
	If the deposition was Trump's defense because Trump didn't testify, so he didn't present any meaningful defense other than no defense because she didn't prove her case.
	Let me know.
	Wouldn't he have to testify, though, because of a civil case?
	No, I thought you have to give something.
	So maybe they gave the deposition instead of him showing up in court.
	Remember Reagan's deposition on Iran-Contra, how rambling that was, Eric?
	Remember that?
	I mean, it didn't make Reagan look very good.
	No, but then they might not have wanted him to be actually subject to a cross.
	So that's what I'm saying.
	If they can let in the deposition, maybe they were protecting him.
	Eric and I have this case figured out, and we're going to explain this to you from a ground level.
	They probably put that in there so he didn't have to testify, right?
	Yep.
	Okay, thank you.
	That's my theory.
	I don't know.
	Okay, it's a good theory.
	The two non-lawyers are going to educate the lawyer.
	No, because it's civil.
	It depends on what the rules are.
	Because in a civil trial, you can compel someone by subpoena if you can serve them.
	Right.
	But it's not like criminal.
	You can't do a fifth.
	So here's what they...
	There's no conviction.
	This is a civil case.
	Liable.
	Liable.
	And not rape, by the way, because even the jury didn't believe that she was raped.
	She said on Tucker...
	Not Tucker Carlson.
	On Anderson Cooper...
	I was raped.
	And he penetrated me.
	And then Anderson Cooper says, well, that's what some people define as rape.
	And she goes, that is the definition of rape.
	The jury, it was nine people.
	It wasn't seven and it wasn't twelve.
	They said, well, we don't believe that she was raped.
	And to steal man that is, we don't know if it was the penis that penetrated, but we believe that something happened.
	And defamation.
	They found him liable for sexual battery.
	And then defamation for denying the sexual battery and calling her all sorts of names saying she was making it up to sell her book.
	That's defamation?
	Denying that you did something?
	Apparently.
	Nothing of it makes sense.
	It's New York.
	That's your town.
	I'm just looking to see if the chat is going to tell me if that video deposition was Trump's evidence or Carol's.
	I mean, look, again, we now know you're 75 years old.
	I said from the beginning to Robert and others that they're not going to stop until he's indicted.
	And convicted under the sedition laws related to January 6th.
	They have to take him off the playing field.
	These minor libel things are not going to accomplish what they want.
	They have to physically remove him like, you know, others in the 1920s who were removed.
	I'm looking to see if I get an answer.
	And by the way, I'm joking about you being 75. The joke is that you've been alive longer.
	Is this the worst you've ever seen?
	Okay, so I lived in New York in the 70s.
	The crime was insane.
	That was the creation of the Guardian Angels with Curtis Sliwa, who's now back patrolling again in New York.
	The subways are now...
	The transit police didn't really exist in the 70s in New York.
	They were kind of understaffed.
	Now they've defunded the police, so there are no cops in the subway, which led to multiple crimes down there, murders and everything else that's going on underground.
	You can't do both.
	They merged them years ago.
	The transit police and the regular police in New York merged into one force.
	Nevertheless, they're so understaffed that they can now only patrol above ground.
	And now it's just madness underground.
	It's every man for himself.
	The same thing's happening in L.A., by the way.
	It's not just New York.
	L.A. is the same thing.
	The trains are just out of control.
	Is there a subway system?
	I don't know L.A., but...
	There's a metro system in L.A., the red line.
	Now, are you following...
	So you're following the news of...
	Now they've identified him.
	I think his name is Penny, the Marine, who has now been arrested, second-degree manslaughter.
	So last Sunday, there was some discussion, like, maybe they're not going to charge him.
	The DA knows more.
	They've seen enough.
	Like I said to you before, this is justice by game show.
	This is the voice.
	This is the people are under pressure.
	The media rises up.
	And then the winner is selected for either, you know...
	Put on trial or arrested for something.
	This is like trial by media.
	All of these controversial cases are based on, you know, the support left or right going against it.
	If you're not loud enough on either side, it's not going to happen.
	And this particular case, Bragg eventually, you know, charged him a few days later or a week later, whenever the crime happened.
	Yeah, he was charged.
	You can't run a justice system like this.
	You can't, you know, go by like it's, you know, the voice on TV.
	I mean, they say they can't and they do.
	When they charged Jose Alba and then dropped the charges after the public outrage, and here they don't charge.
	And looking at it, they're charging with second-degree manslaughter, so they're not getting greedy and going after first-degree murder.
	And you do look at it objectively.
	Something was done, and it resulted in the death of a human.
	And now it'll be for the court system to figure out.
	The question is, or not the question, I guess the affirmation is...
	It will be impossible to get anything...
	Well, I mean, the same thing happened with the bodega owner who was being attacked.
	Yeah, Jose Al.
	And they put him in Rikers.
	And thank God the citizens...
	And if it wasn't for that video of the actual assault on the bodega security camera, that guy would have been sentenced and put in Rikers for the rest of his life.
	Rittenhouse, dude.
	Well, that's an obvious one, but I'm saying there's some other ones in New York.
	Like the Bodega case where Bragg had arrested him, had sent him to Rikers Island.
	He's suing, I think, for $10 million now.
	Good.
	I think he went back to Puerto Rico.
	I think he's a Puerto Rican national that had dual citizenship, I think.
	You imagine going back to Puerto or leaving the country after that experience because this is what your experience with the judicial system is.
	Yeah, he's suing for, I think it's $10 million, but he's suing for wrongful prosecution and detention.
	And then I'm thinking the case in Texas.
	What's the guy's name?
	Shot the guy and was just found guilty?
	Perry.
	The thing that...
	Probably sank Perry was that there was no video evidence.
	It's an amazing thing.
	Unless you have it documented, politics will fill in the blanks.
	I'm saying it's a glorified television show.
	I mean, these videos are sliced and diced.
	They're looked at by the media and cable news.
	They look at it every single way.
	They mix in audio.
	They do things.
	If you go all the way back to...
	Trayvon Martin, remember the Zimmerman?
	NBC had edited the 911 call to edit it.
	They were forced out.
	They were fired, the editors at NBC News, for editing falsely his 911 call.
	So if it doesn't match...
	They just adjust the evidence that they have and alter it.
	Show the picture of him.
	What was it?
	The picture they show is like 11 or 12 years old.
	These narratives come out so quickly.
	I mean, this guy was killed at 47 arrests.
	Many of them were felonies.
	He was a violent offender.
	I don't know when his Michael Jackson impersonating career ended, but he apparently was completely off the rails and had been arrested 47 times.
	So it's a ticking time bomb.
	I mean, they have defunded the police where...
	We now have to defend ourselves.
	And if we defend ourselves, we're subject to arrest.
	It is a perfect storm.
	There are no cops, and you're not allowed to defend yourself.
	Think about the anarchy that that creates as a system.
	Because that's the system now, bro.
	Whether we like it or not, that's the de facto situation that we're living under.
	Let's take the examples.
	You have Rittenhouse.
	You have Perry.
	You have the McCloskeys.
	Brandishing a firearm.
	McCloskeys.
	You have Zimmerman.
	Now, in retrospect, I remember Zimmerman was Passed off as a racial crime because Zimmerman was Caucasian when I believe he was half Hispanic, half Latino?
	He was Peruvian and another nationality.
	And Zimmerman was, was it two N's or was it one N?
	I think it was one N. And by the way, someone said in the chat it was, Puerto Rico's a part of America, so, no, I think Jose Alba might have gone to Cuba.
	Either way, point is that he's left.
	And because of an experience.
	Yeah, someone was saying that this is basically...
	I want to say not the Marxist revolution, but this was sort of the Bolshevik revolution.
	This is how it started.
	I don't know enough about that history to analogize the two, but we're literally living in a world where...
	Well, I mean, you know about pogroms.
	I mean, you were raised understanding what a pogrom is.
	Yes, I will.
	Actually, I should say my grandmother left...
	My grandmother's family left Russia.
	Why?
	In the pogroms of the 1890s.
	Why?
	To avoid getting murdered.
	I mean, there was...
	No, but I'm saying, who was defending them when their villages were attacked?
	I guess the answer is nobody.
	Okay.
	And then the police allow it to, or the authorities allow it to happen.
	Right.
	So the same thing happens on Kristallnacht in 1933 in Germany when they went through Berlin burning and looting Jewish stores and the police stood by and watched it happen.
	I mean, the similarities are breathtaking.
	The on-duty.
	I'm sure the off-duty.
	Some were probably helping.
	Some were helping, some were not.
	But I'm saying the similarities are breathtaking.
	And now people are going to say, well, this is not religious motivated, but...
	Maybe politically motivated.
	Well, it depends where you define religion.
	I mean, you know, they were defining the Jews as cultural and religious and everything else.
	So, I mean, they're calling these Trump supporters a group that's fanatically following this guy religiously.
	You know, their definition of MAGA is almost a white supremacist.
	It's almost a religion.
	So it's not that far-fetched.
	They are now the Jews.
	As I've said for a couple of years, the Trump supporters have become the Jews.
	I mean, everything that they're doing to them.
	They're raiding their churches.
	They're going after the IRS.
	They're going after their taxes.
	They're pulling them in on all kinds of obscure laws.
	It's exactly the same as what happened in Berlin in 1933.
	These Nuremberg laws, the Nuremberg courts, is what we're facing right now, David.
	It's exactly the same as the Nuremberg courts.
	Look at Roland Faisal.
	Look at the Nazi judges from back then, screaming at these people for violating Nazi laws.
	Well, that just got real dark real fast, Mark.
	Let's swing it back to something lighter.
	You're vocally...
	Now, I don't ask political orientation because I think that's almost as personal a question as anything.
	Well, I'm a registered Democrat, so...
	I mean, I voted twice for Obama.
	I voted for Clinton a bunch of times.
	I think I voted for Trump once out of the two elections, so...
	Well, okay, hold on.
	I mean, I'm moving more towards the independent thing, but I want to be a registered Democrat so I can vote in the primary.
	Is there a way...
	Someone was mentioning that, like, go register as a Democrat so you can...
	Yeah, no, I already...
	That's why I'm staying, because of that.
	That's why I'm...
	You know, it doesn't matter who...
	You know what I mean?
	They can kick you out.
	Can they not kick you out there?
	If they find out, I mean, now you're telling everybody this is not going to be good.
	No, but I mean, I'm living in a one-party Bolshevik state in California anyway.
	What difference does it make?
	There's only one party you can actually vote for.
	I mean, they control every single lever of power in the state of California, and it doesn't really matter.
	You get voter registrations when you buy a container of milk at Albertsons.
	There is nobody.
	There's earthworms that are now in the Democratic Party.
	They have registered every single thing with two legs, four legs, three legs.
	Mark, the most controversial thing you've already said is not that, you know, not comparing current data to Nazi Germany, that you voted for Obama twice?
	Twice.
	He voted for Hillary Clinton, too.
	I voted for Hillary Clinton like five times.
	Well, hold on.
	I voted for it twice as the New York Senate, once in the primary in California.
	I can't remember the amount of time.
	But hold on.
	I won't question your judgment.
	And her husband, too.
	I voted for her husband.
	But I can give that a pass.
	You voted for Obama as in presidentially twice?
	Well, that's sad.
	After the first four years you voted for Obama.
	March shifted.
	I went back again.
	I wasn't satisfied.
	I said, this guy's...
	It can't be this bad.
	Let me see what he does the next four times.
	Oh, boy.
	And that's not a joke.
	That's not a joke.
	You actually did.
	Well, I think it was running against John McCain.
	I think it was McCain back in 20...
	I thought was a phony POW.
	Like, history has kind of proven out that he was Songbird McCain.
	We later learned that he was a...
	A prisoner of war who was treated much differently than the other prisoners.
	No, I think it might have been Mitt Romney was the second time.
	Well, the second one was Romney.
	And then people are saying Mitt Romney was no better than Obama, so you're voting.
	Now, but hold on a second.
	So you've had a massive political awakening.
	Well, it's moved.
	Yeah, it's moved to the populist side.
	Yeah.
	Okay, and now you're...
	Because I only asked as the joke because I know that you're vocally pro-Trump on Twitter now.
	And now it's like Trump or the end of the world.
	Until I see something else.
	And DeSantis has not done something else.
	As I said, I've met Trump.
	We grew up with Trump in New York listening to Howard Stern when he became president.
	It wasn't a shock to me, as it was to the rest of the country, who never heard of him or seen him.
	If you're raised in New York and you heard Trump for years goofing around with Howard Stern on the radio, it was not that crazy for him to appear, especially after 10 years he was on The Apprentice.
	Yeah, a while.
	It was like eight, ten years.
	It was the number one show.
	I mean, this guy did not just drop from another planet to us as New Yorkers.
	But I think it was shocking to a lot of people who didn't know him and didn't know his sensibilities.
	But to us, it was like, all right, it's Trump.
	Let's get it on.
	Let's go.
	Well, Nate talks about that, too, because, I mean, Trump is one of the most popular people amongst the black community, especially rappers.
	They aspired to be him.
	Ask Mike Tyson.
	Mike told me he loved him.
	If Mike loved him, why couldn't I love him?
	That's a better Mickey Mouse than Mike Tyson.
	It's Mike Tyson.
	Question, is it Mike Tyson or Michael Jackson?
	Because I get the two confused when I listen to them both.
	When you hug Mike Tyson, it's like hugging a tree.
	It's like putting your arms around a redwood tree.
	So it's different than Michael Jackson, who you would hug, and then the propofol would be squeezed out of his nose.
	You've met Mike Tyson in real life?
	Oh, yeah, I know Mike pretty well.
	Is he...
	Is he nice in real life?
	Oh, he's a sweetheart.
	He's a sweetheart, but he did have a rage disorder for a long time.
	Let me tell you something.
	He told me that he was living up in Catskill, New York with Customato as his manager, trainer, father figure.
	And Customato was paying his freight, living up there, training up there.
	And on the weekends, out of boredom, he'd go back to Red Hook, Brooklyn and just rob all ladies at gunpoint and then come back up.
	And I'd say, why did you do that?
	He goes, I was bored.
	I had to do something.
	I'm just looking to see.
	Everybody's got to have a hobby, Mark.
	Yeah, I mean, so he had a disorder.
	I don't know what the disorder was, but I guess.
	But does he still have that as an adult?
	I think he smokes more weed than the entire planet.
	He's waking a bacon every day.
	Okay, not bad.
	Hunley, have you heard that Nina Jankiewicz, Scary Poppins, is now suing Fox News for defamation?
	On what?
	The allegations, I've skimmed through it, and I shared the lawsuit on our vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	What's that, another show?
	That is the one where this is...
	Where is this going?
	The after parties.
	Is there a buffet here?
	Imagine, like, you got Twitter, and then you got Locals.
	Our community on Locals is highly above average.
	What about this Tucker thing going on Twitter, by the way?
	What do you make of that?
	I guess we're going to get into all of it.
	It's going to go there in a second.
	Tucker and the new CEO who is a WEF head of some...
	World Wrestling Federation?
	WEF, ESG, coming your way.
	Who is this woman who's going to take over Twitter?
	She worked for the WEF.
	Oh, that's a good choice.
	ESG can get some money.
	I'll get it now.
	Wait, wait.
	He hired a woman who works with Klaus Schwab?
	Yes.
	It's quite intriguing.
	It's part of the Future of Work program.
	Klaus Schwab is the CEO.
	Why is he even going to a middleman?
	Klaus Schwab has penetrated the tweets.
	Where is the tweet?
	Oh, this is from last night.
	That's all right.
	Oh, my God.
	I've got to stop tweeting.
	She was part of the Future of Work with the WEF.
	Wow.
	And the Future of Work was, what, Elon Musk laying off?
	Okay, here we go.
	For goodness sake, it's Linda Iaccarino, driven by industry progress, inspired by provocative leadership.
	Plus, don't mind a good pair of shoes or a great Penn State football scoreboard either.
	And Linda Iaccarino, if I'm going to go to...
	Linda Iaccarino?
	I think it's Iaccarino.
	It's probably Italian.
	Yacinato.
	W-E-F.
	Just going to go to the website.
	Okay.
	W-E-F Forum.
	Linda Yacinato.
	Hold on, but what is my problem that I can't get this?
	She was the lead of some committee with the W-E-F.
	Future of work.
	Future of work.
	So it's not like one of those situations where the W-E-F sets up a landing page for some unbeknownst noob and they don't know it and they don't really have anything to do with it.
	I don't know if she's influenced by it.
	Maybe she's trying to make the W-E-F good.
	That's his choice for CEO now.
	So, opine.
	Oh, well, I was just wondering about the Twitter-Tucker matchup, if that's going to happen.
	Well, so now this is the question.
	Now, I read an article.
	I don't know how true it is that Twitter, Elon, has distanced himself from Tucker allegedly.
	Hold on, hold on.
	No, he's trying to be fair because Elon is trying to recruit Don Lemon as well.
	He wants Don Lemon.
	Shut the front door.
	It's going to be point-counterpoint.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Jay, you ignorant slut.
	It's going to be the Sour Lemon Show.
	That's a Dan Aykroyd skit from back in the day when Saturday Night Live used to be funny.
	That was classic stuff that you...
	I don't even know that you can reference that without getting cancelled today.
	Thank you very much, Mark.
	We're in big trouble now.
	End the show.
	Oh, yet?
	Now?
	Just now?
	Are you serious about Don Lemon?
	I hadn't heard that.
	Yes, he's reached out to Don Lemon so they could have the Sour Lemon Show.
	No, I thought that the idea was that Tucker would just put on his own Twitter show.
	He would run...
	His own Twitter account with a live show where he would reap the benefits of the...
	Yeah, because you could sell subscriptions, supposedly.
	You could sell subscriptions, you'd reap the benefits of the ads, right?
	I mean, Musk doesn't even have any part of that.
	Nope, but the WEF...
	It's going to be interesting.
	That's interesting.
	Because you know the ESG is coming into the mix.
	And all those initials are going to give us problems.
	And the MSG from the Chinese.
	That's right.
	Well, the MSG from the Chinese with the ESG from the Chinese to the...
	I'm getting so immediately neurotic and paranoid.
	What's going on over there?
	I saw her landing page on WEF.
	What's a landing page?
	You get like a dedicated page.
	I saw it this morning.
	Am I going crazy?
	It's probably your corporate profile.
	They probably took it down already.
	That's what I'm wondering.
	If Klaus Schwab can put Justin Trudeau into Canada, why can't he put one of his own employees into Twitter?
	My just bottom line philosophy is if she doesn't distance herself from the ideology of the WEF, you can rest assured she's going to try to import it.
	the thing that she tweeted the make Orwell real again or something that joke.
	Great again?
	Great again.
	Not great again.
	What's that mean?
	Fiction.
	It's make Orwell fiction again.
	Make Orwell fiction.
	She tweeted that.
	So Robert put that up this morning.
	If she tweeted that.
	Oh, so she's all better.
	I don't know.
	That's what he put up.
	We're going to have to find out the timing on all of this.
	No, but Tucker Carlson on Twitter, I don't know the terms of the deal.
	Is Tucker...
	Twitter paying him $100 million to be exclusive.
	No, no, no.
	There's no money.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	It's just his Twitter account.
	So he could put up his entire show every night for an hour.
	So he's going to pay the $8 a month to get the extra video?
	For $8 a month, he can reach $8 million people.
	Elon might cover him.
	Elon paid for William Shatner, Stephen King, LeBron James, so he could probably afford to pay for Tucker.
	If allegedly there's no money changing hands, and I don't know the terms to this yet, that might have to do with the fact that he might still be under the contract at Fox and he might still be...
	I think it's a big mistake where even if it were a non-remunerated exclusivity, go to Rumble and then obviously bring more to the network than he can draw from it.
	How many people could you reach if you went on Twitter compared to hard cable Fox?
	Oh, he can reach the world from Twitter.
	I rest my case.
	He can reach the world from Twitter while also being part of what is being branded and is the actual free speech community on Rumble.
	Someone had said, though...
	But, I mean, Musk could have his back as the owner of the channel that nobody could come and stab him in the back.
	On Twitter, he'd have this guy in back of him.
	It's a perfect storm for both of them.
	Also, he could carry Twitter.
	He could carry Twitter, David.
	Rumble has Crowder.
	Rumble has you.
	Rumble has other people.
	Tucker going into Twitter, I mean, it opens.
	They would ban Twitter in certain countries simply because he's on there.
	Yeah, but they might still do that.
	I know.
	My point is there's nothing that he couldn't do on Twitter while not also having gone exclusive to Rumble or Valuetable, another entity.
	Well, he could do like you.
	He could do a show on Twitter and then let it go on Rumble afterwards.
	What's the difference?
	It'll be on Rumble also.
	I withdraw all of my commentary.
	Yeah, okay, fine.
	Never mind.
	All that to say.
	Thanks for stopping by.
	It's interesting.
	I had no idea about the Don Lemon.
	But my issue with Don Lemon is not that he was canceled.
	For his ideas.
	He was just...
	He's a bad anchor.
	Can anybody be fired?
	Apparently, he had both a bad personality if we believe the allegations.
	No, no, but I'm saying, can anybody be fired at all?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so the guy got fired.
	Well, he got fired.
	He got fired because the ratings were bad.
	Okay, but you don't even need a reason.
	And his co-employees hated him.
	And he did bad things, allegedly.
	Two, what's the guy's name?
	I keep forgetting Barnes was representing him, but I was covering the case before.
	The lemon drop from...
	I'm not going to remember.
	Yeah, Doug Hintz, Heiss.
	Douglas Heiss?
	His name was Heiss.
	Well, I urge you to watch our episode on Tucker Carlson's father that we just did last week.
	Absolutely, because he's got a history that I had no idea about.
	Thank you.
	That's why we do the show.
	I only know it roughly, because I didn't...
	Amazing.
	America's Untold Stories.
	Who is Dick Carlson?
	Dick Carlson.
	I mean, the Tucker family, the money involved in Tucker's family is enormous.
	He doesn't need a cent.
	I mean, on both his mother's sides are millions and millions of dollars.
	One mother, the stepmother, is from the Swanson frozen food empire.
	I grew up on Swanson TV dinners.
	We all did.
	The Salisbury steak with the potatoes and the butter that melted.
	What was the greens?
	The green was always something.
	The green beans.
	Oh, my God.
	They were so delicious.
	And I would eat, like, three of them.
	Come on.
	And my parents would say, like, why are you eating three?
	What about the apple pie?
	The apple pie, too.
	It was delicious.
	So, wait, whoa, whoa.
	You ate a bunch of green beans and didn't grow?
	No, I didn't.
	Anyway, his biological mother goes all the way back to the cattle king of California, his great-great-great-great-grandfather.
	Own more cattle than any man in America.
	The cattle king.
	This is before the...
	He was the tiger king of the 1900s.
	He was the cattle king of the 19th century.
	His cattle spread over four states.
	That's how many cattle he had.
	That's the cattle king.
	That's from his biological mother.
	By the way, on that note with Tucker, did anybody consider the fact that I've heard he would give up a salary anyway to run the debates?
	Now, how powerful would it be if he ran Trump debates on Twitter?
	And people aren't thinking about that.
	But Rumble apparently has exclusivity for the primary debates for the GOP, if I'm not mistaken.
	Is that true?
	Yeah, I'm fairly certain.
	Okay, well, that's fine, but it doesn't really matter.
	You could have exclusive anything if Trump shows up somewhere else.
	Yeah, he could do it on Truth Social himself.
	Yep.
	Why would he go to Twitter?
	He could.
	If you don't use your Twitter account, aren't you going to lose it this month?
	The extra accounts, he said, Musk.
	I don't know.
	They might delete Trump's account because he hasn't used it for some reason for a couple of years.
	Could be.
	I can't understand why.
	Yeah, someone says the fuzzy creature says those are GOP-sponsored debates.
	He could have a Q&A elsewhere.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, Dick Carlson, his father, ran something called Voice of America.
	He ran USAID.
	I didn't know any of this before.
	He ran all these CIA operations.
	He ran Radio Marti.
	Which was a propaganda movement to blast propaganda into Cuba during the Cold War.
	Just a long history.
	Is that still going?
	When did it stop?
	No, I don't know if it ever stopped, to be honest with you.
	Voice of America is still running.
	I know Voice of America, I don't watch it all the time, but let me ask you this then.
	Between the both of you, your assessments of Tucker Carlson, deep state asset or voice of the people?
	He applied for a job at the CIA, as did Anderson Cooper.
	I mean, the media, CIA media influence could be seen in an episode we did called CIA and the Media.
	Speaking of which, Schellenberger.
	What's that?
	Schellenberger is another one.
	Yeah, Michael Schellenberger is another one.
	Yep.
	Yeah, there's a lot of, they like to work in families.
	That's a big deal, to work in a family.
	There's some trust to the father-son.
	Yeah, trust or...
	Or blackmail.
	Right, right.
	But I mean, Tucker Carlson's father.
	Well, they like two.
	They like either the James Bond model, which MI6 influenced the CIA.
	So get an orphan or a long heritage.
	Right.
	So Dick Carlson was an orphan, and they built him from the ground up.
	Do we know why he was an orphan?
	He was an orphan because his father and mother were 17 and 15 years of age, respectively.
	And they gave him up for adoption because they were in high school.
	They then attempted to kidnap him and take him out of the orphanage, but the mother, who was 15, didn't want to cooperate.
	So the father, who was named Richard Boynton, blew his brains out in front of her house.
	And then what?
	And he was adopted by the...
	Blew his brains out, not her brains out.
	Right.
	And then what happened to her?
	She tried to hook up with him as her sister to come into the orphanage and adopt him as her older sister, but they saw through that.
	Okay, so hold on one second.
	This is...
	Almost.
	I mean, it's tragic.
	And he committed suicide because he couldn't get the kid.
	You can't say that word, dude.
	We'll go on YouTube later.
	That YouTube will have to.
	He committed Harry Carey with a gun towards the upper portion of his body.
	No, but because he couldn't get his kid back that he regretted having put up for adoption.
	He wanted them to elope and to kidnap the kid.
	Right.
	From the orphanage.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	He was later.
	When does Tucker learn that part of his life?
	Oh, that I don't know.
	Yeah, we went on Tucker's side.
	Tucker!
	The original mother for Dick Carlson shows up 40 years later and meets him.
	It's always, I mean, who did I have on who was...
	Tucker talked about his mother just getting up and leaving one day as biological.
	Yeah, she went to France, right?
	She was a hippie artist, the mother.
	Who came from this cattle fortune.
	And one day she was tired of being a mother to her two sons and moved to France.
	I gotta wonder, when Tucker discovered that?
	He discovered it that morning when he was going to school.
	No, no, in terms of the tragedy.
	He said, Butler, where's mom?
	Where's mom?
	Wow.
	Okay, so interesting.
	So now what are you making of the Tucker Twitter alliance?
	I think it's a match made in heaven.
	I think it's kind of indefensible.
	I mean, he could go on, put on the actual original show.
	Pay his original writers to put on the same exact show that he put on every single night, every single night, and have 8 million times the audience.
	I don't see the downside for him doing this.
	Except for the new CEO, which does throw a question.
	That throws it into question.
	But the model is a billion times better than the cable Fox model, which only a few people got to see, right?
	I mean, they didn't even show that for days.
	They would show excerpts on YouTube.
	But you never saw the full episode, really.
	No, no.
	And he even talked about it, too, how much it sucked.
	Remember the leaked footage with Media Matters?
	Which, by the way, tells you who Fox is.
	Who are they leaking it to?
	Media Matters.
	Come on.
	That tells you exactly what they're about.
	I'm just trying to look up a question that I can ask intelligently.
	You're familiar with Media Matters.
	Okay, so you've got to explain this to the world.
	Okay.
	I can do a short one.
	Well, you're going to do the short one.
	Is that David Frum?
	Where does David Frum?
	No, no, no, no, Brock.
	David Brock.
	Oh, David Brock.
	So, like, I am newly awakened enough that I remember back in the day people would say, media matters.
	And I would hear people complain about it and say, like, you can't trust that.
	And I was like, well, they're fact checkers.
	They're watchdogs.
	Why not?
	I remember what it felt like.
	How about the Southern Poverty Law Center?
	How about the ACLU?
	How about the ADL?
	I could go on and on, David.
	I could be here all night.
	I know a lot of letters.
	Let's start with Media Matters and David Brock because everybody talks about David Brock like he's some form of Satan incarnate.
	David Brock is a rarity.
	He was a right-wing hatchet man like Lee Atwater who then got co-opted by the Clintons and moved over and created Media Matters.
	He's like the reverse of David Horowitz.
	That's right.
	Creates Media Matters.
	Was it Fox dedicated from day one?
	No, no, no.
	It's named as if it's a neutral source to watchdog the media, but they're a completely left-wing fringe organization.
	It's like Snoke.
	Now it's described as a left-wing watchdog, but now it's described as almost focusing exclusively on Fox, but that's dating back to 2010.
	Who's the biggest network?
	Well, it's Fox.
	So the Media Matters.
	When was Media Matters founded?
	So we're talking Bill Clinton.
	Nineties.
	Ninety-eight, ninety-nine.
	And how long has Fox been around for?
	I've only really...
	Ninety-six, I think.
	Okay, so they might have actually been quasi-Fox dedicated, but certainly right-wing at the time where they were trying to pass themselves off as objective neutral.
	Right, right.
	The name, everything about it.
	It's like...
	Yes, we're a neutral watchdog of the media.
	George Soros has had some funding interest of Media Matters.
	I'm sure he enjoys their product, but I don't know if he funds them.
	I mean, he's going in directly through NGOs and think tanks.
	And DAs.
	Well, even the DAs, there's a buffer.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So he can say, I didn't do that.
	It's not him writing a check to a DA.
	It's going through...
	What was the...
	I think it was Media Matters where he gave a million dollars in 2010.
	I'm just trying to think.
	I found confirmation.
	It's possible.
	Okay, so Media Matters, absolutely politically corrupt institution from its inception.
	Yes, yes.
	David Brock is dirty, dude.
	Let's...
	ADL is an interesting one.
	Okay, now ADL was the one that was started to defend...
	Jews.
	Anti-Defamation League.
	But there was someone who they said was wrongfully convicted.
	What's the history of the ADL?
	It was the Anti-Defamation League.
	It was designed to support and help Jews in their predicaments with the law.
	And support free speech.
	Because ADL would support people like, what, Skokie?
	The Nazis.
	The neo-Nazi protest.
	ADL supported the Nazis in Skokie, Illinois.
	That's how...
	Open-minded they were.
	I wouldn't even support the Nazis in Skokie.
	Well, it was the neo-Nazis' right to protest in Skokie, New York, which was an area that was...
	No, no, no, Skokie, Illinois.
	Skokie, Illinois, sorry.
	Chicago suburb.
	Which was an area where there, for whatever the reason, had been a lot of Holocaust survivors who had relocated to, which is why the neo-Nazi group took that place as interest.
	ADL defended them.
	And now you've got the ADL claiming that misgendering a person is a big no-no.
	Well, they're just still left-wing...
	Well, it's about their donors.
	Like you pointed out, everything's about the donors.
	You've been to the donors, as Rich Barris and Robert have pointed out, the donors own whoever they donate to.
	And, you know, whether it's the ACLU donors or the ADL donors or the Southern Poverty Law Center donors, they dictate the policy.
	And I think the first time I ever realized it was with the Sierra Club.
	You know, going all the way back to the Sierra Club.
	Spotted L. Yeah, I just thought they were for, you know, seals and otters, and all of a sudden they became politicized.
	And now...
	Oh, Greenpeace.
	Because remember, he broke away and he talked about that.
	What is the old person's AARP?
	Oh, ARP.
	That group is thoroughly politicized now.
	Sure.
	Any group that's going to get funding us.
	Well...
	It's a dark day this Friday.
	We'll start with something funny.
	What is...
	What do you guys have on the...
	What is it called?
	Up the Pipe?
	Up the Pike?
	Well, very easy.
	Somehow today, on Freeform Friday, we have special guest Viva Frye.
	Oh yeah, you're going to be a guest on our show later today.
	Of course.
	I don't know where it's recorded.
	We're just going to switch seats.
	I may have semi-double booked.
	I've got another, not another, I've double booked myself because, oh my god, I was about to make an announcement that I don't think has been made yet.
	Stay tuned, everybody.
	There's a big announcement coming out of Canada.
	You following what's going on in Canada?
	No.
	No, I don't.
	What's going on?
	Is there some trouble?
	China took over?
	Something with the moose?
	No, we've got our online streaming, which is now being governed by the CRTC.
	Guided by the CCP?
	Indirectly, we're getting there.
	Isn't Canada merely the canary in the coal mine, in your humble opinion?
	I would never have.
	I think it's even worse than that.
	The canary in the coal mine means like you're going to learn from the canary that drops dead and change course.
	I think it's the, I don't want to say like the first domino in the series of dominoes, but that sort of seems like what it is.
	Let's see what we can do up in Canada.
	You got the Bank of Canada now running a poll.
	They're consulting the public on CB, Central Bank Digital Card, CBDC.
	Canada seems to be like, let's test what we can get away with on a population so that it then becomes the new standard for what, you know, America, what California, what New York to do.
	They follow rules.
	Oh, and they're informed by a...
	When you went in the underground tunnel to get out, when you were with Harriet Tubman coming south from the north, the reverse of the Underground Railroad...
	Did you take your relatives, or did you leave them behind?
	The funny thing is, two of my siblings are actually American citizens now.
	They were born in Canada, they moved, and they're American.
	The two others who are up in Toronto, they don't want to, can't leave, it's not so bad type thing.
	Although I say, it's not so bad.
	There were Jews in Berlin who said that up until 1939, 1940.
	This is the...
	And again, I've given up on caring whether or not people find this analogy offensive.
	It's too late.
	I have a Hungarian neighbor in Canada, in Montreal, who says, once upon a time to me...
	David, don't compare it to communism.
	It's not communism.
	And then like nine months later, he's like, okay, David, you can compare now.
	Because he said so.
	Because he said, no, this guy, he said, I've lived through, it was either, it was Hungary.
	He's like, I've lived through it, and he's older than me.
	He's like, this is not so bad.
	I swear to you, it was only after there were like separation issues among family members where he's like, okay, now it's bad.
	You can make comparison.
	I don't know how he just turned out.
	He turned Russian.
	So my grandmother, her family was from Russia, left during the pogroms.
	My grandfather, Sweet, merciful goodness.
	He was the only one of the 25 that left Poland.
	And my dad's like, you know, he says, they all thought it would get better.
	And he was the one who was rebellious.
	They were all religious Jews.
	And he says, I'm leaving and this is, you know, and now I understand it.
	I can understand how some said, it's not so bad.
	It's not so bad.
	It's not so bad.
	Oh, look at that.
	Now I can't even find the news that's coming out of America because VPNs are illegal in Canada.
	Is that true?
	Not yet.
	Not yet.
	But what they're saying is, Now that the Canadian...
	They are in China.
	Well, Canadian radio telecommunication, whatever it is, the federal body that regulates radio and television is now going to regulate the internet.
	Going to impose Canadian content requirements.
	What could go wrong there?
	Worse than that, the law has passed.
	Now the Minister of Heritage, Pablo Rodriguez, who from what people have told me...
	He used to play for the Yankees.
	From what people have told me, I don't think he was born in Canada.
	His name is Pablo Rodriguez?
	His name is Pablo Rodriguez.
	He is now going to issue a directive to the federal body, the CRTC, to delineate, determine, define their own competence.
	What's going to be their jurisdiction?
	It's like Chevron, which might get overturned in the States, on steroids in Canada.
	The law is ambiguous.
	We don't know who it applies to.
	Governing body, determine your own authority.
	What's going to happen?
	Downgrade, upgrade Canadian content.
	What's Canadian content?
	CBC can cover the Trump rape trial, and that'll be Canadian content because the CBC does it.
	Rebel News can cover Chinese infiltration into the Liberal government.
	That'll be not Canadian content because it involves China.
	So, it's nuts.
	Did you hear the interview I did with Michael Tracy, by the way?
	Oh, oh, oh!
	I heard enough of that.
	Okay.
	Everybody, Mike Tracy was on the channel.
	He's one of the...
	I guess he's a lefty.
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Definitely a lefty.
	And I got a little taken aback when I saw some of his tweets going after RFK on stupid things.
	His voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
	It's like, okay, that's actual medical shaming.
	That's not like...
	He said he had fried vocal cords.
	That might have been a diagnosis.
	But he said, it's like, listening to his voice is like, listening to...
	Imagine saying, like, I'm just trying to think of...
	Imagine saying, like, listening to Stephen Hawking's talk is, it gives me a headache.
	You would be mocked into oblivion for making fun of a medical condition.
	And I didn't understand it.
	Well, it's ableist.
	I mean, it's...
	But ableist in the real sense, not in the weaponized...
	Yeah, no, in the real sense.
	In the real sense.
	So I heard that interview, and it went off the rails.
	What do you think happens to him?
	I have no idea.
	I was perfectly calm.
	I didn't really...
	He just got crazier and crazier.
	You know, with his answers, he was just getting exasperated.
	It was almost like I was deprogramming a Manchurian candidate.
	You know, there was a thing we used to do in New York.
	Reverend Moon used to send out his followers to sell flowers on the West Side Highway.
	And if you wanted to fuck with them, you could just go, money for father, money for father, money for father.
	And they'd have a meltdown because it somehow broke through the brainwashing.
	And they'd just start going, ah, ah, ah.
	And that's what I felt like was happening with Michael Tracy.
	You know, I asked him these legitimate questions about the Ukraine war.
	He said there's no end in sight.
	It's never going to end.
	And I said, well, they're going to run out of people.
	You know, and he said, no, they're not.
	There's plenty of people.
	I said, well, it's an 8 to 1 ratio that they're dying against the Russian army.
	And he's going, where did you hear that?
	I mean, every single...
	Well, that was the Pentagon leaks.
	Right, I said it was leaked by the guy in the Pentagon.
	Well, that wasn't a legitimate leaker.
	No, but not just that.
	They're going to say, oh, that's Russian disinformation.
	But even if it's two to one in favor of Ukraine, like, Russia has won every war in its history by losing more people and just fighting the war of oppression.
	Killing them at an 8 to 1 ratio.
	I mean, it's not even close.
	They're now bringing in, you know, they're kidnapping teenagers and old men in Ukraine, and they've got a lot of Polish and mercenary forces, including RFK's son, who he's apparently proud of for becoming a machine gunner and killing Russian soldiers.
	Hold on one second.
	Say what you just said again slow.
	I have to keep repeating myself?
	What are you, retarded?
	He said he was proud of his son going over as a soldier.
	This is RFK Jr.
	The one we're talking about, the guy we talked about earlier in the show?
	R.A. Jr.'s son currently is a machine gunner in Ukraine?
	He came back and he said, I went over there and I became a machine gunner, machine gunning Russian soldiers to death.
	And he said, I'm proud of him.
	That's an odd thing to say.
	It is.
	What the hell is...
	When did...
	I'm sorry, calm down.
	I had lefty family members.
	They were...
	Peace-loving, anti-vaccine people to a flaw back then.
	We're talking about not liking the vaccines that were, I guess, had at least a decade of proven non-toxicity.
	That was the left.
	When the hell did the left go from anti-government, anti-big pharma, anti-war, to pro-big government, pro-big pharma, and pro-war?
	It's nothing but being pro-war.
	When they deposited their checks.
	Well, I don't know about that, but I mean, if you watch enough cable news, I believe there's some sort of MKUltra programming going on and subliminal programming.
	Okay, now people are going to say you're crazy, Robert.
	You call me names, I'm calling you.
	We proved that MKUltra existed.
	Say it slowly.
	Tell the world about MKUltra.
	Well, it was a multifaceted CIA programming involving drugging, brainwashing, amnesia-inducing drugs to implant new memories into people's brains.
	It spread out over a period of 20 years involving numerous things.
	Some of it up at McGill University.
	I was just going to say, hold on, watch our episodes.
	Dr. Cameron up there in Canada.
	At the Allen Memorial, correct?
	Right, absolutely.
	And they were put into transit.
	Let's just say this.
	This is fact, people.
	But it wasn't fact when it was happening.
	People were mocked.
	When they were saying...
	When they would escape and say, they're putting on...
	And they would also, if I'm not mistaken, test on homeless people.
	Yeah.
	And we'll...
	Prisoners out of Lexington, Kentucky.
	But the Allen Memorial was a mental institution.
	There was a guy...
	There was a prisoner in Lexington, Kentucky, the federal prison down there, that they gave these prisoners hundreds and hundreds of hits of acid daily for periods of months at a time.
	And one of them who came out and became a psychopathic killer was a guy named Whitey Bulger.
	Yep.
	And he was part of that Lexington, Kentucky prison drug experiment.
	And by the way, they were also doing it in Harvard, where there was another guy.
	Right, right.
	A gentleman by the name of Theodore Kaczynski, who is now...
	Anyway, hold on.
	This is overload here.
	Yeah, my belief is there's a current MKUltra program subliminally going on through cable news and other levels of media and information dissemination.
	I know it sounds crazy.
	No, it only sounds crazy if you...
	Don't know the past.
	I mean, that's the bottom line.
	Whitey Bulger.
	Now that I'm thinking, because I saw Black Mass, and now I get that entire discussion that occurred in that movie where they said that he was...
	And he looked...
	Well, I mean, Johnny Depp was great.
	Now that makes sense.
	Ted Kaczynski.
	The Unabomber.
	MKUltra.
	You've got to flesh that out, because I remember now...
	He was one of the most brilliant people in the world.
	A lot of the environmentalist eco-terror movement is based on his teachings, but he was a professor, I believe he was at least a student professor at Harvard, and dosed.
	But they were dosing everybody at Harvard.
	I mean, Timothy Leary was involved with some of that.
	They're dosing him.
	He's a professor at Harvard, Ted Kaczynski, before going off the rails.
	Oh, he's at MIT.
	He was a math-engineered genius.
	So does he voluntarily start doing LSD?
	I think so.
	Then he gets co-opted by intelligence.
	No, I don't know what the exact relationship was.
	But he ends up in the MKUltra project.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	A lot of people did.
	I mean, there's Operation Midnight Climax up in San Francisco.
	Explain what that is.
	This is new to me.
	This was a two-way mirror in a department where they would bring in prostitutes to seduce men and dose them with acid to see if they would talk.
	Everything was about trying to control Soviet spies or to deprogram, in theory, deprogram Soviet spies and to reprogram them.
	It came out in North Korea when we had the...
	Prisoners who spoke against the United States and said that we committed horrible deeds and they said, oh, oh, oh, oh, we can't have that.
	How do we reprogram them?
	Exactly.
	The prisoners of war came back from the Korean War.
	American US POWs who claimed that we had used biological warfare.
	See our episodes Jolly West and Sidney Gottlieb.
	Sidney Gottlieb and Jolly West episodes.
	You make me a list itinerary and I'll put it in the pinned comment of this.
	There's going to be a lot of episodes.
	It'll be your homework.
	We'll use biological warfare.
	In the Korean War.
	And that was the last thing we wanted to hear.
	And these POWs came out and said that when they came back.
	We used it because we had captured the genius.
	Of the Japanese medical science named Ishii.
	He was their biological warfare chief.
	We brought him back to the United States and Ishii demonstrated.
	Well, he was kept out of the States.
	He was kept out of the States.
	Because paperclip, we brought him in.
	We kept him over because we couldn't bring him in.
	Ishii was one of the Japanese doctors who would do the testing, the human testing that they were doing.
	In Manchuria, by the way.
	They were using biological warfare, the Japanese.
	And the head of that program was a doctor named Ishii.
	So Ishii demanded that we give him immunity plus his entire staff so that he would turn over the secrets to his biological warfare program.
	See Operation Paperclip.
	Which is Operation Paperclip, which is getting Nazi doctors out of Germany.
	I presume most people know that the Japanese were doing their fair share of horrific experimentation.
	What was the name of the unit?
	It was Unit 9 or something where they did the experimentation?
	Oh, God, I don't remember.
	The Japanese were doing what the Nazis were doing, like vivisections, horrible testing on humans.
	They actually taught the Nazis how to do it.
	They had a meeting of the Nazi doctors with the Japanese doctors before the war, and they exchanged knowledge on this.
	Peers, man.
	You know, little peer studies.
	When I, growing up, and we always learned, like, you know, don't mistake in someone who's Chinese for Japanese because they have a history that they're both, you know, ripe.
	Oh, yeah, ripe of Nanking, of course.
	And so the road to Nanking, which was when they just went in and ravaged towns, used men as bayonet targets.
	If people don't, I mean, anybody watching doesn't know about the Japanese experimentation on, I guess it was primarily the Chinese, but...
	On a slew of people during World War II, look it up.
	The Baton Death March, if you want the American version, you know, what they did with us.
	It was bad times.
	And so after the war...
	As part of, well, Operation Paperclip, for whatever the reason.
	Explain this, because this is a real thing.
	This is how they're trying to get the Nazi doctors who did the experimentations out of Germany.
	Give them what?
	Give them citizenship?
	Give them more than that.
	Because when Sidney Gottlieb goes over and meets with the Nazi doctors in Germany, we begin MKUltra and experimentation first on Russian soldiers and Russian prisoners in a house in Germany.
	And that's where the CIA in 1949, even before that, the OSS in 45, 46, 47 begins the experiments to determine if they can brainwash and implant memories into Russian prisoners.
	And then it expands to U.S. military.
	It expands to American prisoners.
	It expands to college kids.
	That's how LSD becomes part of the American pop culture.
	It's true of the experiment.
	And then the other half got recruited into NASA to build the space program.
	I'm sorry, this might be like one of those paradigm shifting...
	The LSD movement.
	CIA infiltrating the young generation.
	Nate Ashbery in a clinic they created up in San Francisco.
	Where Charles Manson hung out.
	Also at a Stanford University where, I mean, Ken Kesey and all these different guys are subjects in the experiments offered LSD, which they take.
	As part of the government experiments on their brains.
	Remember Charlie Manson as part of that?
	Manson's part of it if you read Operation Chaos.
	I'm not joking.
	Do you see the goosebumps on my arms?
	It's a very bizarre reaction.
	By the way, Operation Paperclip Part 1 and 2 on America's Untold Stories.
	We don't really cover Ishii in that we're really focused on the German version of Operation Paperclip.
	I feel like a young child who just either discovered that Santa Claus doesn't exist or discovered that the universe is infinite.
	So this is like intelligence creating a movement within youth and the purposes of what?
	To fuck with people's brains so that you can...
	No, no, not really.
	Their main purpose was to...
	Originally was to have a defense system in case our guys were caught behind enemy lines.
	And also to program.
	Because the other half of it was to deliberately create a split personality.
	So that way you could tell from me, okay, Mark, I've given you your orders.
	And then you go, you do your own thing, and then somebody whispers in your ear, kind of like somebody whisper to Sirhan, Sirhan, in his ear, and then...
	Boom!
	Flip the switch, and then you reveal the information.
	In 1962, a movie comes out called The Manchurian Candidate.
	Yeah, people were saying watch the original, not the...
	Based on the book.
	The Manchurian Candidate comes out of this situation that we're describing when the POW has come back from North Korea.
	Yep.
	And that's what The Manchurian Candidate is based on.
	Someone's calling me naive in the chat.
	Others are saying Santa Claus doesn't exist.
	No, but that's just an amazing way to view, like, the LSD.
	I mean, I knew it was created by, you know, intelligence of the government.
	They were experimenting.
	Well, no, it was created by a Swiss...
	Sandoz-Labs, Hoffman, an actual Hoffman with two N's.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was created by a legitimate person.
	He didn't know what to do with it, so the CIA said we'll buy it all.
	What happened was the CIA went out and bought...
	Every single ounce of LSD available on the world market.
	What was it originally created for?
	Sandoz Labs.
	What were they using it for?
	He was creating different things.
	It was an accident.
	It was an accident.
	He didn't mean to.
	He wound up being induced by it.
	I don't know if he dripped or whatever it was.
	Accidentally absorbed.
	And he was like, oh, he found out what the condition was.
	And the CIA heard they were like...
	Bicycle through the woods.
	There's a book by...
	Quest for a Nigerian candidate because the CIA was looking at mescaline.
	They were looking at cannabis and everything else.
	I just love it that this is the same institutions that the left today are saying abide.
	Okay, now people are saying, okay, so hold on a second.
	We're going to get back to Kaczynski being...
	Absorbed by?
	He wasn't infiltrated.
	No, he was just ghosted Harvard when he was there.
	So when does he lose his mind and what does he say?
	Well, he ends up in the cabin in the woods.
	I think that he probably was a schizophrenic already, going by his brother from my understanding.
	He was dosed a lot.
	He was a brilliant person.
	And was he known to authorities before he did what he did?
	No, but here's, okay, a great description.
	His brother knew for a long time.
	His brother, well, his brother, no, his sister-in-law outed him.
	Yeah.
	And then his brother, but I've had John Fitzgerald on my other show, who's a linguist, and he described Ted Kaczynski well.
	He was a brilliant, brilliant person who made a lot of sense, except he liked to bomb people.
	I mean, literally, his writings are incredible.
	He is the unofficial, indirect founder of the eco-terrorist movement in the United States.
	Yes.
	He is their Bob Dylan.
	They worshipped this guy, and his manifesto is now part of the eco-terrorist movement.
	When he talked about putting spikes in trees...
	So the forest service was cutting down trees with chainsaws and they would hit these spikes and be injured.
	That comes from Ted Kaczynski.
	The eco-terrorist movement followed what he taught.
	He is their leader.
	Even now, being imprisoned in Supermax in Colorado.
	Here's another interesting factor.
	He's so perfect in his language that he got caught because of his perfection of the manifesto.
	And what it was is that we have a saying, you can't have your cake and eat it.
	He wrote in the manifesto, you can't eat your cake and have it.
	It turns out that the original statement is what he said, but he was so precise that it was antiquated, and it didn't make sense, and it matched another letter that he wrote in.
	Keep in mind, this was printed full page, page after page, in the New York Times.
	And online.
	Forget about online.
	No, it's the first online document.
	Right, but I'm saying the New York effin' Times printed this on hard copy and was in that paper.
	I remember buying it in New York to read the manifesto in the New York Times.
	And today they will not even release a manifesto of a mass shooter unless it fits the narrative.
	Quite clear political reasons why one would be...
	Right, no, no, that's why I'm bringing it up.
	But the whole, because the Oklahoma bombing...
	There was an idea that intelligence authorities were apprised of it.
	I don't know all of that.
	I hear rumblings, but I've never looked into it.
	I talked to Barnes, so I think he's looked into it.
	So Kaczynski then dosed to schizophrenia, went into the woods and decided he's going to blow up a federal building.
	No, no, no.
	You're conflating two guys.
	Kaczynski liked to mail bombs to people.
	He was a mail bomber.
	Okay, forget it.
	Okay, so scratch that.
	Someone in the chat said Marilyn, not Marilyn Manson.
	Speaking of conflating people, Charles Manson, also part of MKL.
	Oh, yeah.
	Definitely, yeah.
	You read Tom O 'Neill's book, Chaos.
	He goes into great detail in the documentation of Manson going into Haight-Ashbury Clinic.
	A lot of it starts in this free clinic in Haight-Ashbury.
	Okay, he goes in and then they say, hey, we've got someone here who might be good to take advantage of.
	Right, actually, too.
	Because every time he gets arrested, he's bailed out by someone.
	Oh, weird.
	I mean, weird stuff.
	No, I mean, we're talking like...
	An arrest where the entire sheriff's department, helicopters, everybody went in, seized all the...
	And he was out the next morning.
	Yeah, somebody kept releasing him.
	He had deep contacts in the police department and obviously the feds.
	You know, he had a handler.
	Well, all right.
	And these are the institutions we are expected to trust today.
	I have not...
	That's what I'm saying.
	I have not changed politically.
	You know, my fear and hatred of the CIA goes back to when I was on the other side.
	I'm still in the same boat as I was back then.
	These people have now switched over to their worship of the CIA, CIA letters and all kinds of things because of this guy's candidacy and support of war and everything else.
	I was marched against the Vietnam War and I'd marched against the Ukrainian War.
	You know, I don't see a difference in my political viewpoint coming from the 70s.
	It's exactly the same as it was then.
	Let me throw something crazy out there.
	TikTok is actually not Chinese Communist Party-run.
	It is actually CIA-influenced, and they're exploiting it out of China.
	Come on, let me be smart.
	Let me just put things together in real time.
	I think there's an MKUltra program that's being run on these people.
	This TDS that seems to be influencing them is so beyond reality.
	It's so beyond logic.
	It's so beyond having a conversation that I can only understand it as an MKUltra program.
	Because it makes no sense.
	I mean, you could dislike a candidate plenty of times.
	Well, I remember Bush.
	I mean, everybody hated Bush.
	But it wasn't at this level.
	I remember Bush was a Nazi.
	Bush was Hitler.
	He was a dummy.
	He was a monkey.
	But it was never at the level of this.
	I mean, this is a whole new level where CIA on both sides have now infiltrated the media and replaced Rush Limbaugh in some cases.
	Buck Sexton.
	Buck Sexton.
	I mean, there's people on the left and the right who boldly...
	Sean Hannity with his CIA pin.
	Hannity sits there every night with his CIA pin on.
	I mean...
	Anderson Cooper, Obama was funded and went to CIA summer school and his Columbia University.
	It's an amazing thing where the TDS has now caused people to say, I will forego justice, I'll forego the sanctity of the most sacred institutions.
	That's not normal.
	It's the whole line of, it's all punch-a-Nazi logic.
	Yeah.
	It goes back to that.
	It's like, if Hitler was alive, if Hitler was alive...
	I want to Google this.
	When did Punch a Nazi first take...
	Oh, I don't know.
	This is going to be 2016.
	It started on the campuses.
	I remember on the West Coast, it started on the campuses.
	Gosh darn, I just thought like Popper.
	I think Popper might have been...
	Karl Popper is a big influence on that mentality.
	Punch a Nazi good, it's okay to be white, bad.
	By the way, if you read the book on Fauci by RFK Jr., which I recommend.
	I got through that one.
	He talked about the creation of AIDS through poppers in the gay community.
	And there's study after study talking about amyl nitrite as a breakdown of your immune system and the cause of AIDS itself.
	Elaborate this.
	I do remember this from the book.
	I remember also not knowing what poppers were until I read the book.
	Okay, so Steve Gibb would know what poppers are, and many of us would know.
	An amyl nitrate that some brand names like Rush, you'd inhale it and it would open up the sphincter muscle of your anus to allow penetration easier.
	And it was so prevalent in the gay community that full-page ads were taken out in the gay press and the full-page ads were paid for by the pharmaceutical industry who owned the patent for poppers, which was Welcome Burrows.
	They were taking out full-page ads encouraging the gay community to use more poppers in clubs and in their...
	For reference, didn't he use it in the doors?
	Jim Morrison, I think he was doing poppers in the doors.
	I'm asking why my doctor who did my rubber band ligation hemorrhoid surgery did not give me poppers, because whatever they did has traumatized me to actually contemplating that procedure ever again for the rest of my life.
	Well, it was so prevalent, is what I'm saying, that the first 100 victims of AIDS, 100% of them were using poppers.
	Was it a legal...
	You read the book, so...
	Was it a legal recreation drug?
	Yes, it was in headshots.
	Absolutely.
	It's illegal.
	I don't know if it's illegal now.
	I don't know.
	I would presume it's a regulated substance.
	The patent was controlled by Welcome Burroughs, the pharmaceutical giant.
	And then they boxed out any letters that would come into the gay media explaining this.
	They would box those letters out and not print them.
	They would not print articles about this.
	It was so evil.
	So dark.
	And Fauci was the one running this thing.
	No, I know.
	And now, like someone said in the chat, you're going to break my brain.
	But just compare that.
	Fauci ran the entire AIDS program.
	And AZT was the drug that Fauci shoved down their throat.
	It killed people faster than AIDS.
	It killed hundreds of thousands of gays with AIDS.
	And he was in bed with a pharmaceutical company.
	And he was...
	Preventing the...
	What was it?
	The community had established certain over-the-counter protocols that were more effective treatment than AZT.
	He was making that...
	What happened?
	No, I was going to say, the McConaughey movie is all about that.
	Dallas Buyers Club.
	Dallas Buyers Club was going against Fauci, and it kind of ties up...
	And making...
	I don't want to say illegalism, but making...
	Trying for crimes against humanity would be for AIDS, not even before it got to COVID.
	The amount of people that he killed through these programs...
	As delineated in RFK's book, which I strongly recommend at least.
	The real Anthony Fauci.
	I mean, absolutely riveting.
	No definition suit, by the way.
	There's millions of footnotes and links to YouTube.
	I mean, it's an insane word.
	If you imagine Nina Jankiewicz is suing Fox News for defamation because they called her the disinformation star or whatever, the Ministry of Truth, and Fauci...
	I don't even know that he ever threatened suit against RFK Jr.
	No, I guess it's a policy of ignore, because the discovery in that trial would be enormous.
	Well, yeah, it would be ignore because true, not ignore because false, and it'll go away, but this is...
	Right, what happens is, by accident, and slightly intentionally...
	The funding gets controlled at NIH, and he decides who he's going to fund and who he's not going to fund.
	And from there starts the havoc that we have today in the 80s.
	And in the book, he delineates clearly, RFK Jr., how Fauci becomes the pope of medical funding.
	And that allows him to decide who's getting money and who's not getting money.
	I'm going to lighten up the discussion for one second and say, does it look ridiculous?
	I'm trying to cross my short legs here.
	Does this look ridiculous?
	So I'm trying a new pose.
	To me?
	Yeah, no.
	Does it look ridiculous?
	And also I just wanted to give an excuse to show.
	Check this out.
	Murph's kicks send me.
	No, you look like an idiot when I try to sit like this.
	No, you look like a normal person.
	This does not look normal.
	To you?
	Yeah, it does not feel normal.
	Okay.
	Feet go back down.
	You feel better that way?
	I feel a little better on this way.
	Well, you know what?
	Sit whatever way you want.
	Let me set straight back.
	Are we back to the homosexual part of the show?
	No, I don't know what he's talking about.
	I'm going here on Locals.
	Someone posted a meme, which is AI.
	It says, me, can I be proud to be white?
	My AI, I don't think it's productive to be proud of something you have no control over.
	It's better to focus on things you have accomplished or worked for, or worked hard for.
	Me, can I be proud to be black?
	Absolutely being proud of your ethnicity, culture, and heritage can be a positive thing.
	It is important to celebrate and embrace your identity.
	And who put that up there?
	Yep.
	That's from Bill Brown.
	And Bill Brown is a trusted member of the community.
	Bill Brown has a hog.
	Bill, how big is it, Bill?
	It's going to be like 500 or 600 pounds.
	It's a 600.
	You've got to be careful with your references, by the way, because I've heard the term hog used in another way.
	And everybody can check out our LBJ.
	Oh, yeah, check out the LBJ.
	I know how the other word of hog is.
	Because you get the jumbo reference with LBJ and, you know.
	So, careful on the hogs.
	Here, check it out.
	He says 500 plus pounds.
	That's his hog right there.
	It's called Templeton.
	It's a big ass.
	I love that thing.
	Is that glock kosher, the hog?
	I don't know.
	That was my joke.
	What is with you, ugly creatures?
	It's a total, what is it, harmonious?
	No, harmonious relationship.
	Oh my gosh, my mind is blown.
	Now, the RFK, real Anthony Fauci, blew my mind as well because when you see the parallels between suppressing the, not therapeutics, but what's the word I'm looking for?
	Generics, like the drugs that were already available.
	And then you understand what happened to hydroxychloroquine, the other one there, Ivermectin.
	You see what they did.
	Now, the whole movie of the Dallas Buyers Club makes sense in retrospect, because I had no way of contextualizing it, that they were not allowing the gay community in the AIDS epidemic to access, you know, over-the-counter drugs.
	Well, look what Fauci does, if you follow in the book.
	He brings all the gay leaders in as consultants and puts them on the payroll.
	The leaders of the gay community.
	Brilliant.
	Brilliant.
	And they control the gay media, so they march to Fauci's tune, and Fauci's paying them.
	Outrageous.
	Okay.
	We can go on forever, but what else is on your minds?
	Eric.
	Freeform Friday, coming up this afternoon.
	Oh yeah, we're going to do Freeform Friday.
	If we're going to do it, we've got to start moving back on the channel.
	It's at 5.30.
	Okay, yeah, 5.30 at your house.
	Was it 5 or 5.30?
	Are you coming over for dinner?
	Well, I have to.
	I've got to do the show.
	I know.
	I drag this guy anywhere.
	Marry him.
	He's coming over for dinner.
	Okay.
	Well, so let's end this.
	Yeah, and then we'll pick it up up there.
	But hold on, I can't see.
	It's going to take us five days to go.
	While you're waiting for us to end, how about you subscribe to America's Untold Stories on YouTube and Rumble.
	Subscribe to both places.
	What about Locals?
	Yeah, unstructured.locals.com.
	That's unbelievable from Locals.
	That's right.
	I got a memo book.
	Locals right here.
	We've got one too, guys.
	Am I able to see if there were any tips?
	I'm going to go to Rumble and just see what's going on in Rumble.
	I'll give you a tip.
	Get off of there.
	No, no, no, because I want to answer the questions if anyone had any questions in here.
	Rumble.
	I'm going to go to Rumble, people.
	Hold on one second.
	Oh, look at that.
	We're on the cover there.
	Oh, nice.
	Okay, hold on.
	Now, do I see any Rumble?
	Hey, we're on Rumble too, folks.
	I mean, come on.
	Click right over there.
	Well, you've got to subscribe to them.
	America's Untold Stories.
	You'll send me all the links.
	Viva Fry, you all know what to do.
	So Blanc Givre says, end this.
	I just joined.
	Oh, I want to just give a shout out to Steve Gibbs' new album that's dropped on Facebook.
	Okay, so I wasn't going to say this because I don't want to drop names.
	No, no, no.
	Steve Gibbs comes in with you.
	And I say, first of all, he looks virtually identical to Bryce Eddy that I did an interview with yesterday.
	I was like, how did you get down here so fast, Bryce?
	And Steve Gibbs is the son of...
	Barry Gip?
	Yeah.
	The singer from the Bee Gees?
	Very popular.
	And he's got his own group and they just released their first single.
	It's called I Killed the Robot or I Killed the Robot.
	You've got to hear this.
	It's unbelievable.
	Can I play it here?
	Would that be cool?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so hold on.
	We're going to do this.
	Check this out, peeps.
	Do I play it off Instagram?
	You can play it off Spotify or YouTube.
	I'll go to YouTube because I don't think I have Spotify.
	Kill...
	The Robot.
	And we're going to hear this.
	Kill the Robot.
	Joel Fletcher.
	Kill the Robot Band.
	Kill the Robots or Kill the Robot?
	Kill the Robot Band.
	Okay, and is it called Kill the Robot?
	We can play it on the show if we don't get copyright.
	Okay, guys, check this out.
	No, forget it.
	He's the copyright.
	He would give me the strike.
	We're going to do it, people.
	He would give me the strike.
	I know, I know.
	He would give me the strike anyway after he plays it.
	Okay, so here.
	Do you hear this, guys?
	I hear something.
	This is an exclusive.
	It's not an exclusive.
	It's on YouTube.
	It is exclusive.
	Holy crap, it's...
	Okay, listen.
	Listen, people.
	Oh, and you can see the video, too.
	Who did the video?
	It's incredible.
	Brian Fitzpatrick did the video.
	Let's go like this.
	Dude, I started tripping watching the video.
	I haven't done acid in 30 years.
	I was having flashbacks.
	I started to eat my own intestines at one point.
	I opened my stomach and took out my intestines.
	Okay, it's getting started.
	It's getting started.
	Look at this.
	Yes!
	This is my first time hearing this.
	This is cool.
	I'm trying to predict what the vocals are going to do.
	It's the night of the world.
	Okay.
	This is Pink Floyd-ish.
	This is...
	Makes me think of a crow a little bit.
	Alright, people.
	That's it.
	And the video is Tadpoles.
	Oh, is that a penis or is that Tadpoles?
	Hold on.
	It's tadpoles.
	Or it's sperm.
	It might be sperm.
	It looks like sperm to me.
	I wouldn't know.
	I was going to say my wife was going to be happy with the tadpoles, but not so much with the sperm.
	Okay.
	Kill the Robot, and the song is called...
	Atomic Haze.
	Atomic Haze.
	That'll be in the link also.
	Okay, we really do have to get on the road if we're going to...
	Rumble Locals.
	This was phenomenal.
	You should visit more often.
	Well, we're going to do it in a couple hours.
	Okay, we'll do it again.
	Wait until you see the setup at home.
	Oh, is it better than this?
	It is.
	You have to dodge animal feces.
	Do you have animals with no legs or something?
	I got one with paralyzed legs.
	One is on a skateboard or something?
	No, she just scoots along the ground.
	But the only thing is, the blind one also just randomly poops in the house.
	There's one blind?
	We've got a West Highland Terrier and a paralyzed Puggle.
	Right.
	I know there's a joke in there somewhere.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, between the two of them, we have one functional dog.
	That's funny.
	They're good dogs.
	That's funny.
	We're ending this.
	Thank you all.
	This has been phenomenal.
	So, America's Untold Stories, Eric Hundley, Mark Robert, you know what to do.
	The links will be in there.
	Rumble.
	Locals, I'll come back to Locals later.
	I'll start something up live.
	So, go.
	Enjoy the night.
	Thank you.
	Everybody, thank you.

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