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May 11, 2023 - Viva & Barnes

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Trump Found Liable; CNN Town Hall; Culture Wars & MORE! Live with Bryce Eddy!

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	I'm pro-choice because it saves lives.
	I'm pro-choice because I don't believe a man or anyone has the right to tell a woman what she should do with her body.
	I'm pro-choice because abortion bags endangers women's lives.
	Listen to this.
	I'm pro-choice because reproductive health is health.
	Because our daughters deserve choices.
	Because reproductive rights are human rights.
	She.
	Her.
	Body.
	I'm her choice because women should have the right to choose a safe and legal abortion with privacy and dignity.
	Because a woman's right to choose what she does with her body is...
	Her.
	Because a woman's autonomy over her own body is not only a human right.
	It's her right.
	I'm pro-choice because it should not be chosen to decide what women do.
	I'm pro-choice because it shouldn't be for men to decide what women can and should do their bodies.
	The women can't be too much.
	As a Quebec woman, women have fought too hard to have choices, rights, libertés.
	I would like to ask this particular woman, L'honorable Diane Leboutier, how she feels about men in women's locker rooms, for women who have had to fight for their rights.
	I'd like to ask her that question.
	Hypocrisy!
	Oh, it makes you want to gag.
	I'm pro-choice because a woman's right to choose is her choice and her choice alone.
	I'm pro-choice because it's a human right.
	It seems that there might be an obvious question there as to what other humans might also potentially have rights even if you agree with the woman's right to choose.
	I can't pro-choice.
	Can't do it.
	Can't do it.
	Can't keep going on, people.
	They're pro-choice, by the way.
	That's the Liberal Party.
	That's the Liberal Party.
	But hold on.
	Hold on.
	They're pro-choice.
	And here's what their awful evil boss has to say.
	Pro-choice.
	They're pro-choice.
	No man should be telling a woman what to do with her body.
	For not getting fully vaccinated, chooses to not get vaccinated, there will be consequences.
	That sounds like a man just threatened a woman if she didn't do with her body what he said to do with her body.
	It's nauseating hypocrisy, nauseating gaslighting.
	And we're going to come over some of these topics as I talk with Bryce Eddy today.
	Just to highlight...
	A couple of the absurdities here.
	Above and beyond the obvious.
	They are gaslighting hypocrite liars.
	They are, politically speaking, they might be good pet owners.
	They might be loving parents.
	Politically speaking, they are the worst people on Earth.
	And I tweet, holy hell, they are the biggest gaslighting hypocrites on Earth.
	All of a sudden, they know what a woman is.
	All of a sudden, they know what a man is, and a man should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.
	Right up until Justin Trudeau says, If you don't have a damn good excuse, woman, you misogynist anti-vaxxer, there'll be consequences.
	You know what that's called when a man says that to a woman?
	And then the bottom line of all of this, for those of you who may not know, Canada is the only nation in the world with absolutely no criminal prohibitions on abortion.
	Since 1988, when the Supreme Court struck down whatever were the existing abortion laws back then, Canada, this is from Wikipedia, this is from a bunch of sources, I don't know what they mean by the only nation, if that's somehow different than the only country.
	Canada is the only nation on earth with no criminal prohibitions on abortion, and yet for some reason, it seems to be the only thing that those raging, gaslighting hypocrites in the Liberal Party can talk about now.
	As though their followers are too stupid to identify a little shiny object to keep you from looking at the actual corruption, the actual insidious heinousness of that liberal regime.
	All right.
	I feel better.
	You feel better?
	I see our guest in the back, Bryce Eddy.
	I haven't told him this.
	I might make a mistake on his name because when we adopted Babu, that...
	Pug, who went blind and got really, really fat.
	His birth name or his given name was Brisson.
	And so that's how I've remembered Bryce's name.
	But then I, you know, in my own head, keep saying Bryce.
	And so Bryce, I'm bringing you in in three, two, one.
	Hey, how are you?
	Good in yourself.
	Good.
	Well, you know, if you get it wrong, I won't even notice because, you know, having two first names that get interchanged all the time and I get called Bruce all the time and all those sort of things.
	So I'm never offended.
	I don't even think about it.
	Well, first of all, it's a good name.
	I was wondering if it was a stage name or your actual real name.
	It's your birth name and your original last name.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My full name is Bryce Whitfield Eddy.
	So my dad was a pastor and a theologian and named me after George Whitfield, who was one of those guys that Ben Franklin said that he avoided bringing his billfold.
	To any of those events because he was so inspiring, he would end up giving all of his money away.
	And then he did that one time and ended up giving his wristwatch in the collection plate after listening to George Whitfield.
	So anyway, Bryce Whitfield, Eddie.
	Very cool.
	Now, Bryce, I'm thinking I want to do it.
	Yeah, we're going to have to talk physique in a bit, but I like the zoomed in because we waste space otherwise.
	Okay, Bryce, some people in my community might not know who you are.
	And the preface is, we met at the PragerU event, where we're at a table, and I don't remember how the discussion got started, but when we're at a table, we started talking, and it turns out, A, you're actually kind of super cool.
	We have a lot of overlapping interests, but my crowd might not know who you are.
	So, 30,000 foot overview, then we're going to get into some childhood stuff, then we're going to get into the news of the week, the news of the year.
	Who are you?
	Yeah, so, I mean, first, you know how it got started was it was my daughters were doing PR for me because you sat next to my girls, and they were having fun, enjoying conversation with you, and then that kind of connected us up, and I realized who you were, and, you know, I've been following you on Twitter, so it was a, you know, fun little occurrence, and that's why we go to those events.
	Yeah, well, actually, I should say, I was sitting at a table.
	I show up with my wife.
	There's four, I mean, equally young-looking women.
	One of which was your wife.
	You had four kids there and your wife.
	It was three kids and your wife.
	Yeah, it was my three daughters, which are 19, 18, and 14, and then my wife.
	And my girls are all high-level violinists.
	We've homeschooled them for years, which is something I like to talk about and endorse.
	And yeah, they're just wonderful, and they're just kicking butt in life.
	Amazing.
	So actually, hold on.
	I actually just want to show everybody today.
	I was going to go with the Red Bull, but I figure I'm going to save my Red Bull for this afternoon.
	This is my...
	How it started.
	How it's going.
	Mug that my wife made for me.
	All right, Bryce.
	We're going to get into all of the homeschooling.
	You have a podcast now, but you didn't start in this milieu.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I fell into this, and it was really an accidental thing.
	Like a lot of folks during the lockdowns, life got kind of shut down, and the world got a little crazy.
	I've always been an entrepreneur.
	You know, business owner, multiple different things.
	You know, one time my daughter asked, like, hey, Dad, what do I say when people ask what you do for a living?
	And I just said, just, you know, tell them I'm a many-layered onion.
	And so I've been in the insurance business for many years, you know, on the corporate insurance side of things.
	And we sold our business a few years ago, and I'm still active in that space.
	But during 2020, I got involved in...
	Well, for the last decade, I've also been in the security consulting business and I've owned a martial arts school.
	I'm a Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy.
	I've been at that for...
	27, 28 years, something like that.
	I was actually classmates with Joe Rogan and many guys that people know in that world or associate in even our world of podcasting.
	And then during the lockdowns...
	We ran a live stream seven days a week out of our church, which stayed open during the pandemic in defiance of California authorities, you know, kind of fought them and won.
	And I was a regular guest on that.
	And then Salem suggested we do a regular podcast.
	We started doing the podcast.
	Rob McCoy, who was our pastor and my co-host at the time, did four episodes with me, went on vacation.
	Went to Israel and then never returned to the show.
	So it by default became mine.
	And I'm doing just the interview thing.
	I'm having fun with people that I like.
	Interacting about topics.
	But really, I'm interested in people, and I'm interested in the people in this movement.
	Of course, I get called a white supremacist, Nazi, Christian nationalist, stochastic terrorist, Christo-fascist, and everything else, which is, of course, silly slander that the left tries to use to shut us up.
	The most hate I've gotten is because I said publicly that it is evil to tell children that happiness lies on the other side of puberty blockers and double mastectomies.
	And of course, that is one of those sacred things that if you start talking about that, you get Antifa characters mailing things to your home.
	So let's back it up a little more before we get into the issues.
	Born and raised in California?
	Yeah, I was actually born in Philadelphia, but we came over.
	My parents were going to school there.
	My dad, as I said, was a theologian and was going to Westminster Theological Seminary, and then we moved back here where they were from.
	And so I was raised from eight or nine years old here in the Southern California area.
	And if I may ask, how old are you?
	48. 48. So now you've been in California for your entire life, basically.
	The better part of your life.
	I'm a California boy.
	What has been the transition geopolitically in California since you got there or since you were there as a child compared to today?
	Well, I mean, everything has kind of over time gotten further.
	You know, rotting to its core.
	It's interesting because, you know, when you, the California that I grew up in, and I've said this publicly and it's gotten me in trouble, like racism wasn't a thing in my youth.
	We went to a school.
	They bused kids in from the urban environment.
	We were all friends.
	There was no kind of thing about it.
	It just really did not exist.
	We were all friends.
	We were all living life.
	I grew up in a way where it was that Martin Luther King idea that it's about the content of character.
	And then all of a sudden now, you know, everything has become about those sorts of issues.
	And they've, you know, ginned up this way of dividing us like crazy.
	And it's really continued.
	If you travel outside of California, you know, I own land and properties in Idaho.
	And when you go there, the environment seems so different.
	And then you come back here and you realize that California is kind of a rotting corpse, just with nice weather.
	Nice weather and absolutely beautiful geography.
	It's a damn shame because it's the most...
	I compare what you're describing to my childhood.
	Born and raised in Montreal, Canada doesn't have as big of a black population as America does.
	I went to Jewish school, so no black students in Jewish school, but then when I went to my...
	Second of three high schools.
	You know, there were a few.
	And nobody cared about race.
	It wasn't a constant subject of discussion.
	Not among kids.
	And as far as I recollect, not among adults.
	I presume that's your same experience.
	When do you recall it?
	I mean, first of all, did you go to private school or public school in California?
	I went to public school.
	My joke is, you know, all the time I disparage my...
	My intelligence and everything else because I went to public school and have fun with that.
	But they graduated me twice.
	So I left my high school and went to another school halfway through and ended up...
	Going to visit my friends and all of a sudden they called my name out at my previous high school.
	So, you know, based on money, you know, they didn't take me off the rolls there, which tells you how effective LAUSD is.
	Were you a troublemaking kid?
	No, actually, I mean, I was a Boy Scout.
	I mean, you know, quite literally, I was a LAPD explorer, which was part of the Boy Scouts.
	And I, you know, didn't even have a beer before I was 20 years old.
	I had no trouble growing up.
	I mean, I was pretty straight edged kind of a kid, you know, and for the most part, all the trouble that I've gotten in is as an adult.
	Okay, so hold on.
	Religious parents, I presume based on?
	Yeah, yeah, again, you know, yeah, my dad, while I was growing up, you know, was a pastor.
	So, you know, he and my mom, and this is sort of, you know, interesting story.
	But, you know, my parents were divorced, quite controversial, when I was 13, you know, and for a pastor and somebody like that to be getting divorced and go through that trouble.
	Is quite a big deal.
	But my parents ended up getting remarried and back together one month before my wife and I got married.
	And so until my mom died, they were together again.
	Okay, hold on.
	I think I remember this now.
	How many siblings did you have, first of all?
	I have a younger sister and a younger brother.
	And again, we all grew up here in Southern California.
	So your parents got divorced.
	How old were you?
	And how long did they stay divorced for before?
	How does that happen?
	I mean, how does that happen?
	Did they have relationships in their divorced life?
	Yeah, I mean, listen, I'll even, you know, I'll even lay more of it there.
	So they divorced when I was 13. And I'm the older, you know, kid in the group.
	And so, you know, my younger brother and sister, I think, you know, certainly suffered more than I did being younger than I was.
	My parents got back together when I was 19 for one year, divorced again.
	My mom had a marriage in between.
	And then my parents got remarried again for the third time when I was 26. So, you know, it was a love that, you know, they just couldn't give up.
	I'm trying to identify who would be the one.
	If one can attribute, do you attribute responsibility to either one of the two of them?
	Or is this purely a mutual thing that it was just...
	Off and on.
	You know, my mom had divorced my dad.
	And, you know, look, these things are always very complex and relationships are complex.
	And, you know, none of us are perfect.
	And, you know, it's a tragedy that this sort of stuff happens.
	But, you know, obviously, I learned a lot.
	And, you know, we all have scars from things like that, you know, growing up.
	And, you know, it's an interesting...
	Um, thing to, to go through, but it informed a lot of my views and, and, um, the importance of family and the importance of keeping intact families is, uh, is, you know, vital.
	And I think that that's why it's being attacked so much because if you have divided and broken families, you know, you can, you can abuse people.
	Um, do I want to ask the question?
	No.
	Well, first of all, are your parents still alive?
	My dad is.
	My mom died going on two years ago.
	She suffered from Alzheimer's fairly early onset and for the last couple of years was suffering.
	So her finally passing was really a blessing because she was really having a rough time.
	And so did you harbor any resentment to your parents for the experiences as a child?
	And if I can ask the really pointed question, did you harbor it more for one parent than for the other?
	You know, yes and no.
	It depends on the time in my life because, you know, my parents during, you know, my younger years, and I think we all do this a little bit, you know, parents are kind of a stand-in for God in our life when we're very little.
	Right?
	You know, you look at them, they are your world, your universe.
	And then when you get older and you start to become an adult, that's when you start to have these, you know, challenges with your parents.
	And so, you know, if you go through something traumatic like that, you know, there's ways in which you're going to lay blame on either party.
	I didn't talk to my dad for an entire year at one point until I went through some of my own challenges in life and I realized that, oh, wait a second, we're all doing this for the first time.
	We're all going through life for the first time.
	None of us totally have this thing wired.
	We're doing our best.
	And then forgiving my dad for things that I was frustrated with was a great thing in restoring our relationship.
	My mom was a very complicated woman.
	She grew up in a bit of a rough way.
	She had some real trouble when she was young, and so a lot of that behavior and the challenges that she had in relationships came from that.
	So it's very humbling to really understand that none of us are perfect.
	I mean, that's the funny thing about being a Christian in today's environment.
	You get attacked all the time, and it's mostly because people are fried about Christians, right?
	Some Christian did them wrong.
	Rarely the philosophies of Christianity are the issue in a person's heart.
	It's usually that somebody did them wrong who proclaimed to be a Christian.
	But we are all sinful.
	We are all screwed up.
	We are all doing what we can to hopefully grow.
	And so it's a funny kind of dichotomy there.
	Very interesting.
	I had never actually thought about that, that your parents are a form of a God, then you have your rebellion from your parents, and then if you're lucky enough and you live long enough, you come back to your parents in the way that many people come back to God.
	I know that I have taken a religious, not a deviation, but not an abandonment either.
	Maybe a rebellion from what was my religion of birth.
	I'm Jewish, but I know that I now not rebel against, but take issue with some of the elements of organized religion while absolutely understanding the value of having these underlying principles from the Old Testament, from the New Testament, from the Bible.
	Interesting.
	I'm going to have to digest that one personally.
	Let me give you the Bible verse on that.
	So, you know, it says, train your child up in the way that he should go, and when he's old, he will not depart from it.
	And, you know, I think this is a beautiful Bible verse when you're talking about kids.
	Number one, it's saying that, you know, okay, we have a duty to train them up in these moral ways and in these foundational ways, right?
	It says that when they are old, they will not depart from it.
	Almost all of us have a rebellious period.
	And I try to encourage other parents that what your whole job is during the screwy years when they are teenagers or even younger sometimes when they're rebelling, you know, to be firm, to be stable, to be, you know, strong.
	And, you know, for them, but you got to get them through those screw years without any permanent damage.
	That's really the goal.
	And they will come back around if you do a good job.
	And, hey, it may be that they're coming back around when they're 35, you know, and all of a sudden, you know, they're restored.
	The other part of that is, is it says train them up in the way that they should go, meaning that we have jobs as parents to...
	Identify who that kid is.
	Like, who did God make them to be?
	Don't make them little yous, right?
	Don't try to make them a mini-me.
	Find out what their strengths are.
	Pour into those strengths.
	Help them mitigate against their weaknesses.
	And then just pour into that stuff.
	And it's our entire job is to identify it.
	I'm not making fun of this person, Ken Paddock.
	It's a sentiment that many people have.
	Religion is the opiate of the masses.
	I think that was...
	Was that Karl Marx?
	And once upon a time, I thought the same thing.
	But now, having witnessed what I've witnessed in society as a whole, I'm now realizing it's not for people who can't think for themselves.
	It's the original self-help book, guidance book, that everybody does need.
	And whether you get it from Aesop's fables or you get it from the Bible, if you don't get it, what ends up happening is you lack basic fundamental principles of life, which reflect in what I think is the breakdown of society that we're witnessing today.
	But we're jumping ahead.
	Before we get there, and this is not going to be an entire discussion of religion either, high school school.
	What did you study in university?
	And when did you step into being a public figure of sorts?
	Was that new to COVID, or were you in this sphere before?
	Yeah, so first, I never finished my schooling, which of course is used to detract, but I actually read books and I actually study, but I found school to be boring.
	It felt like 13th grade to me, and I had an opportunity to go into business, and I became successful.
	In that arena pretty quickly.
	But I'm a lifelong learner and I'm super curious about things.
	And so, for me, I love philosophy.
	I love political philosophy.
	In my years prior to becoming a small public figure, I have...
	I was in the background supporting.
	I got close to politics when I was young and realized that all these people, I mean, there's something a little off with people who even run for HOA board.
	There's a little something that they have that they want to amass and accumulate power.
	But, you know, it's a necessary thing that we have.
	You know, politics just simply means how we organize ourselves.
	Well, certainly we have to organize ourselves and we need people who govern.
	And so I supported certain politicians behind the scenes, even being disaffected by the whole entire game of it.
	I think both political parties have dramatically failed us.
	I mean, we're where we're at because of both.
	Dennis Prager says we have two parties, the evil party and the stupid party, and I'm a member of the stupid party, and that's kind of how I view it.
	Stepped into this.
	I'm on a number of boards.
	I'm on the board for one of the largest youth organizations, conservative youth organizations in the country.
	I've been behind the scenes as a contributor to many of these organizations.
	And then during 2020, I had Dennis Prager's company party in my backyard.
	Nobody else could host anything anywhere, and I have an entertainer's backyard.
	We also did weddings and different things.
	I've been close to a number of these organizations and then just started getting, again, falling into podcasting and speaking out.
	I didn't even have social media prior to about a year ago.
	I had accounts, but I never posted or did any of that.
	Some people view it as falling in and others view it as being pushed in.
	I feel more like I've been pushed in by the forces of nature, but it doesn't mean you can't jump in once you realize that's where the wind is blowing or the pressure is coming from.
	Let me just see something here.
	I'll bring this one up real quick.
	I believe religion helps integrate the understanding that there is something greater than oneself into our persona and that links self-sacrifice to the good of all.
	As religion wanes, selfishness has risen.
	That comment is right, except for...
	Here's what I think people do not understand.
	Right now, what we are battling is largely a religion.
	There is this cultist movement of leftists that is this...
	They pretend that they have no religion, and yet they're adopting all of these religious pillars.
	And you either believe it all or you're out.
	And it's very much a cult movement.
	Nobody lays that out better than James Lindsay.
	But it is super clear.
	And I've argued, and of course this has gotten me called a Christian nationalist, but I've argued that we have to have some foundational religion that reigns supreme in a culture.
	And Western democracies in the Western world was underpinned by Judeo-Christian understanding of the world, and that foundation combined with that Athenian, you know, real kind of structure at the same time, it was that intersection that allowed us to be as prosperous as we are.
	Now, of course, that...
	That means I want a theocracy, and I'm going to subvert everybody.
	I mean, that's their idea.
	But of course, nothing further from the truth.
	We enjoy liberty more in the West than anywhere else, precisely because that's actually Christian philosophy, is for us to have maximum liberty and make our choices before God, because He ultimately will judge us.
	We're going to get back into this.
	We're going to do one last subject.
	On YouTube, before we go over to Rumble, sorry, and I just inhaled my own saliva while drinking, which I should not drink coffee while doing streams.
	Mixed martial arts, Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
	How'd you get into that?
	Talk about it a little bit, the value that that has brought to your life, and why everyone should do it.
	Yeah, so, you know, I went through a stressful period in my life when I was, you know, in my early 20s, and...
	You know, going to the gym and eating the weights just did not satisfy enough of that angst.
	And in 1993, they had the UFC, which was organized by the Gracie family to display Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
	And I didn't realize that their cousins, the Machado family, They all grew up together.
	It's the same family.
	They grew up on the same compound.
	They were brothers and cousins and all that stuff.
	They came over here and developed a school right around the corner from where I was living and working at the time.
	I discovered it.
	Somebody referred me like, oh no, here it is.
	Back in those days, it just said RCJ Machado and their telephone number.
	You would never know if it was Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or anything like that.
	I discovered it.
	I tell you, there's nothing like Choking someone to relieve after-work stress.
	And then I discovered there's a reason that almost all of the adherents to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu are successful.
	And the reason is, is because you learn to be comfortable with the uncomfortable.
	You can't think of anything else when you're on the mat and somebody's trying to submit you to their will and vice versa.
	So as far as stress relief, that alone is amazing.
	It also teaches you a superpower.
	And that's one of the things that I say to incoming students.
	I say, hey, give us a year and we'll give you a superpower.
	And what I mean by that is...
	If you learn to handle yourself physically in that way, number one, your confidence will go through the roof, right?
	You will walk differently through life.
	You will move through life in different ways, just that alone.
	And I'm talking one year minimum effective dose.
	You will then be able to handle physically 99% of the people, 98-99% of the people on the planet.
	You will be able to escape from situations.
	It's why it's the best martial arts for women because it will make their way of escape.
	It will give them the means to get out of a situation that's dangerous.
	And everybody right now who is opposed to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is saying one thing in their heads.
	Oh yeah, well what about multiple attackers?
	Okay, nothing really works for multiple attackers except for the ancient art of running away.
	And that's the truth.
	And old school Brazilian jiu-jitsu people do not pull guard onto the ground and lay down while somebody soccer balls their head.
	No, we get out of the situation.
	All right.
	This is going to segue into a question of...
	I didn't mention we would talk about it, but it's coming up about chokeholds and recent news.
	Let's mosey on over to Rumble exclusively, people.
	Rumble and locals.
	And end it on YouTube.
	I'm going to put the link to Rumble in here.
	And I have got some...
	Some comments here that I actually do want to answer or ask the questions and answer them.
	Ending on YouTube, people.
	Make it on over to Rumble, where we shall continue and talk about the Neely thing, if you have an opinion on that, Bryce.
	Removing from YouTube, 3-2-1 now.
	All right.
	Now, not that I have any meaningful experience other than watching UFC since day one when they could kick people in the head when they were on the ground and you had no weight classes and you had one dude.
	Two's flying.
	One dude fighting with one boxing glove for some reason.
	Gracie's ripping out Kimo's hair.
	No, it was great.
	It was wild.
	You presumably have seen that incident on the New York City subway.
	It's a perfect merger of everything perfect in the bad sense.
	What's wrong with society?
	What's wrong with New York?
	What's wrong with defund the police?
	Not properly caring for the mentally ill.
	And then also, What the guy did.
	I mean, you saw what happened?
	I mean, what's your take on what happened there?
	Yeah, so I've watched the video a few times, and I question, and again, the autopsy results say that it was compression of the neck, or at least that's what's been reported.
	I don't know, and maybe people have seen it, and so fact-check me on this, but I'm a little suspicious of there not being drug involvement.
	We learned a lot of that from the George Floyd incident.
	So some of it, the technique wasn't perfect.
	For half of it, I mean, if you are executing a perfect, what it is is a blood choke, right?
	A blood choke cuts off the blood to the brain, and within three to six seconds, you're unconscious.
	And if he had executed it properly...
	That's the safest thing to do.
	If you execute that properly, choke somebody out.
	You can literally lay them down.
	They'll come to in a matter of seconds.
	But during that time, you can restrain them in a better position, more safely.
	The fight generally is out of them at that point.
	I've been choked out many times throughout my jiu-jitsu career, intentionally and unintentionally.
	Sometimes you're pushing it a little too hard and you think, oh, he doesn't got me.
	And then all of a sudden, it's like a cathode tube of an old TV.
	And then...
	And all of a sudden, the fight is out of you.
	You're just like, what happened?
	Wow, that was quite a nap.
	I mean, it's actually a little bit of an exhilarating feeling.
	And so that's proper.
	And they've taken that tool away from our law enforcement.
	And a lot of guys train now and understand how to do these things properly, safely.
	The other kind of choke is really a pain choke where maybe you're crushing the vital instruments in the throat.
	That is dangerous.
	That's bad.
	That should be used to save your own life, self-defense moments, things like that.
	But in a law enforcement application, outside of, again, saving your own life or saving the life of someone else, those chokes should not be used.
	It wasn't clear in the video, you know, that choke.
	I mean, I watched it multiple times, and it wasn't super clear as to, you know, how that was applied, in my opinion.
	So I think something else was going on there.
	With respect to that Marine, and of course, they're ignoring the black man who helped restrain him as well in order to call this Marine and call the situation white supremacy and hate and racism and everything else.
	It's totally mind-boggling, and it's an evil, demonic way of positioning all of that for further division in our culture.
	But anyway, we need to be caring for our mentally ill.
	And we are violating and creating victims of all those people running the subways because it is now terrifying to take public transit.
	And we are not doing our population a favor in catering to a guy like Neely.
	We actually have a similar problem in Canada.
	My friends basically telling me...
	Friends of my daughter's telling me that they can no longer take the metro in Montreal.
	It's just filled with mentally unwell drug addicts.
	It's just not safe anymore.
	And some people hypothesize that maybe we should go back to an era before...
	They attribute it to the Reagan era, but it was a Supreme Court decision that basically said you can't confine the mentally ill.
	And so people sort of attribute the downfall to that.
	And so people say, well, you should confine them.
	Government should have more power.
	But then one of the arguments for why they were saying...
	You can't confine them is because, A, they were being abused and literally tested upon by the government in these mental institutions.
	Same thing we had up in Canada where MKUltra was an actual thing that they tested on homeless people mentally ill that were in institutions.
	I thought that was a conspiracy theory.
	I mean, I can't even believe that you even bring that up.
	The Montreal connection, the Allen Memorial, I mean, it's like we make the news for the wrong reasons, but it's a delicate debate.
	And in Canada...
	The argument is you can't confine people just because you say that they need to be confined, free will, but then the flip side is, you know, revolving door bail system that you have in New York, mentally ill people on the streets, and then not just, you know, vilifying the police, but deifying homelessness, you know, deifying drug addiction, decriminalizing drug addiction as though that's drugs, as though that's going to solve the problem.
	What has been the evolution in California?
	On a spike recently, or as of when has it been downhill in California?
	Oh, I mean, these things are decades in the making, right?
	Bad policy kind of takes its toll over time, and then suddenly it really disintegrates.
	And we're in this sudden disintegration period to where there are places like San Francisco, where people just are leaving in droves.
	People are incredibly unsafe.
	The left will point to certain data points, and I'll give you an example of this, and they'll be like, oh, it's not that bad, right?
	Now, you have to ignore your own eyes, and you have to ignore what you are seeing.
	Skid Row used to be a thing.
	Now it's Skid Row everywhere.
	I mean, tents on underpasses prior to the lockdowns, you know, you saw...
	Certain areas, again, it was proliferating, and it wasn't contained to just these certain areas of the city.
	It became everywhere.
	But now, when I drive through the San Fernando Valley, so just over the hill, the suburban area of Los Angeles, under the underpasses, every single underpass everywhere has little mini tent cities.
	And almost all of this is exasperated by our policies towards fentanyl.
	Our border policy, you know, the trafficking of fentanyl, which is, you know, the ingredients are coming from China, the cartels that really run our borders are trafficking it up here, and people are getting addicted, you know, so this is a multi-layered complex issue that needs to be addressed.
	But what the left is doing is ignore all that.
	Crime isn't that bad because so many things are going unreported.
	There's examples of this all the time, one of which I'm privy to and I'm not going to throw the agency under the bus, but somebody had a purse.
	Somebody was attacked.
	Their purse was almost stolen.
	The woman was able to fight off the attacker.
	She got battered and bruised in the process.
	She retained her purse.
	Good for her.
	Screamed bloody murder.
	Fought like hell.
	The guy ran away.
	The police didn't even take her report.
	And so, where does that go?
	That then doesn't get recorded.
	That is not an isolated, anecdotal piece of information.
	That's happening constantly and consistently where they just ignore certain things.
	I was going to say, first of all, I was making a face only to say that call me a sissy, give up the purse, give up the iPhone.
	I'm not getting stabbed in the neck and dying over a material object.
	What did it with Louis Vuitton?
	Don't give a...
	I couldn't care.
	There's no material object on this earth that's worth your life.
	And I don't consider children material objects.
	And there were some stories like growing up where people just fighting muggers and then one knife in the wrong spot, you're dead, and then your dog is waiting for you to come up to the mountain because you don't.
	Okay.
	So setting that aside, yes.
	Now, the decriminalizing, it's an amazing thing.
	It's like Orwellian, change the definitions and you can change the stats.
	Decriminalize petty crime.
	Don't report a substantial amount of the crime.
	And then you can say, look, crime is on the decrease.
	Like you say, don't believe your lying eyes, but then what ends up happening?
	People flee, and then you're left with people who cannot sustain the city that is.
	I haven't been to San Francisco in 20 years, and when I was there, it was for a day, and I don't remember it.
	I mean, I see Dave Rubin's videos.
	I don't know when the last time you were there.
	It's as bad as everybody says, if not worse.
	It's worse.
	It's worse.
	I mean, literally, you can't go in many of the areas.
	You cannot go four feet without having to step over human poop.
	I mean, it's truly that bad.
	You know, even to the point that now all of the liberals that were, you know, supposed to be totally just, you know, hey, whatever, you know, it's a funky city.
	They're all complaining now.
	I mean, you know, when you have even the liberals who...
	Created these policies starting to complain.
	It's getting ridiculous.
	What ended up happening with the CEO in San Francisco who was stabbed to death, and then there was some relief.
	It wasn't a random homeless person.
	It wasn't random crime.
	It was somebody he was connected to.
	Was there another ending to that story?
	If there was, I missed it.
	He was a beloved figure by a lot of folks that I know who really appreciated him.
	I still think it was random.
	I just think it was a known person that was in the community all the time.
	What I've read, there was some confusion on that.
	Yeah, well, that story, I mean, it sort of fell off the map quickly for a number of reasons.
	All right, now, so you're in California.
	Before COVID hits, you're working professionally.
	Yes.
	Real estate development?
	No, no, the insurance business, the large insurance consulting firms.
	Okay, and so now COVID hits, and you're...
	I mean, you're in California.
	I think California was not even as bad as Canada, certainly not as bad as Quebec, although maybe it was, but California by American standards was pretty bad.
	What happens?
	Consulting is shut down in years.
	Are you equity owner, partner, or were you an employee?
	Yeah, so partner.
	And really what ended up happening for all of us in that business of mine was that everything just went into a holding pattern.
	Nobody was sure of what was going.
	So a lot of the day-to-day work that we would be doing and everything's just sort of, you know, ground down to a slow roll.
	And, you know, all of us were working from home and, you know, sitting in my beautiful backyard.
	And, you know, there's only so many bottles of wine you can drink, only so many cigars you can smoke, you know, sitting out there in the backyard before you get bored.
	Our church, as I mentioned earlier, stayed open.
	It was one of the first high-profile incidences of this where our pastor, who was the mayor of our city, And on the city council at the time, it had kind of a rotating mayor position, but he was on the city council at the time, resigned from the city council because he said, hey, I want to put these guys in a bad position.
	And then he openly defied.
	The lockdown orders to the point of which there was a great outcry from the politicians that he should be arrested.
	They were going to arrest a thousand of us.
	You know, one Sunday they were putting that out.
	They were going to issue all these tickets.
	It's Thousand Oaks.
	This is Thousand Oaks, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's it.
	And so, okay, so first of all, how big is this congregation?
	Are you thousands?
	Is it a big church?
	Yeah, so we were hundreds and then went to thousands because, you know, when you're the only person staying open and people want to go and get a church service and take communion and enjoy Easter and all those sort of things, and you have a congregation that's not wearing masks and not social distancing, although we did for Palm Sunday.
	We had an absurd 10 chairs in there in this sanctuary that seats, you know, 500.
	They were spraying the chairs down after each people passed through.
	It was on the news, the lines around the block, because people came in to take communion for Palm Sunday.
	And then when the riots, the summer of riots occurred, Rob said, all right.
	That's it.
	If they can riot without masks, without social distancing, shouting in each other's faces, burning things down, then we're going to open.
	And now it's officially a protest.
	And so from then on, the church remained open and people came from all around the country to support.
	And it was quite a phenomenon.
	And what was your role?
	What role did you play in all of this as this is happening?
	So I organized a lot of the security.
	Again, I had a security consulting.
	I still do a group, you know, small business that I handle that's an adjunct to a larger entity.
	And I would be called to take care of executive protection for the likes of the Charlie Kirks of the world, Dennis Prager, you know, events.
	They had, you know, events at the park or protests or Trump rallies and things like that.
	You know, I would organize for abortion, you know, anti-abortion groups, pro-life groups and, you know, things like that.
	And I had been doing that for, you know, about a decade.
	And I would source those things.
	So we organized the church security because we were getting protesters and a lot of hate and all of that was going on regularly.
	And then I would be a guest on the evening live stream when Rob McCoy didn't have a better guest.
	I'm going to bring this one up here.
	It's just the absurdity, I guess in hindsight, although the absurdity was patent at the time, protesting racism versus COVID-19, I wouldn't weigh these crises separately.
	And this is where they talk about when you protest.
	Where was it here?
	It's hard to keep six feet apart.
	What did they say?
	They said, don't scream and don't sing.
	But then white supremacy, this is one of the people trying to justify it.
	White supremacy is a lethal public health issue that predates COVID.
	This was back when they were saying, Shut down churches.
	No AA.
	You can't gather for political rallies or protesting COVID, but racism is a public health crisis, so you could gather for that because the dangerous, most lethal pandemic in the history of humankind made an exception for alleged racism.
	And I say that because, you know, there will be disagreement as to whether or not pre-Trudeau, pre-Obama...
	America was as racist or as racially divided as it is today.
	So as this is going down, first of all, were you ever on board?
	Were you ever terrified like the rest of the people and it sort of evaporated once you realized the absurdity?
	Or were you sort of protesting from day one?
	You know, when at first...
	So I was traveling in New York in the late...
	Part of 2019.
	And I came back and I got sick.
	And I got sick with something that just dragged me for, you know, a week.
	And I almost never get sick and never experience.
	And, you know, it felt like a flu to me.
	But it was like, man, that thing kicked my butt, you know?
	And so I...
	Pretty sure I had COVID based on all of that starting to come out.
	Never got tested, but by all accounts, I probably did.
	When it started to be talked about as this threat, I looked back throughout history and they'd been doing this to us all the time.
	The bird flu is going to kill everybody.
	Ebola is going to kill everybody.
	And then I remember going back to the days of the AIDS stuff where Dr. Fauci back at that time was saying it was going to get so concentrated.
	That all of these heterosexual couples were going to be being exposed.
	And it was something like 2 in 10 were going to die of AIDS.
	And all of these crazy things were being bumped up.
	And I just remember, again, just common sense thinking, I don't think that this is going to go the way it's going to go.
	I don't think we're going to be stacking bodies in the streets.
	I had one moment sitting here at this very desk where I thought of my kids and I thought, wow, is this going to be something?
	One moment.
	And then I thought, I don't think this is the way God's going to take us out.
	And, you know, none of it really materialized the way that they said it would.
	They lied.
	I, because of my business on the consulting side for insurance, I have hospital clients.
	And I was talking to hospital CEOs quietly behind the scenes, and they were describing to me.
	How they were recording some of these numbers and the money that was coming in based on the positive COVID numbers and all that stuff, which is all documented now.
	It's all documented.
	This is not some kind of mystery.
	They were being financially rewarded.
	For positive COVID, you know, big numbers and recording all those and making up, oh, you know, if you got hit by a bus, but, you know, you tested positive for COVID, oh, your COVID death, you know, all those things were happening.
	They simultaneously shut these hospitals down to all of the things that they normally make money for.
	And so these guys were scrambling and just fell right in line with this thing.
	And then if anybody talked against that established narrative, they got shut down, they got censored, they got hammered.
	Again.
	The Twitter files.
	Everything else has documented this.
	Let me bring up one example.
	Just so nobody thinks that you are exaggerating.
	I think everyone watching this channel knows.
	Sorry, people.
	The Fox News was the only one that came up right away.
	Fox 35 investigates.
	When is this from?
	July 2020.
	Questions raised after a fatal motorcycle accident listed as COVID death.
	If you said that at the time, they called you a crazy person and a conspiracy theorist.
	It's amazing.
	I read or I listened to The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr. afterwards.
	Yes, great book.
	It's great.
	And my goodness, if it had existed beforehand, I don't know when it was published, but if I had known that and lived through that, how much smarter I could have looked to others by calling it out where it's going to go had I known that before.
	I think, all in all, I learned pretty quickly.
	I was about maybe four weeks into it at most.
	When they had locked the outdoor dog run, I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.
	If it was what Ferguson said it was going to be, we'd notice more as of this date.
	I just wish I had known.
	Because the parallels between this in terms of what they did with over-the-counter medicines, generic sort of treatments, and what they did with AIDS, and then you understand Dallas Buyers Club better in retrospect than you did at the time.
	Outrageous.
	And so you're locked down.
	You're in California.
	It's beautiful.
	And when do you start podcasting?
	And when do you start getting vocal on the social medias?
	Yeah, so we started a podcast called The Tabletop Debrief, which we ended up pulling down because it was going to get another business that I was associated with that was going to get attacked.
	And so he was my partner, and that was very concerned, my partner on that podcast.
	And so we pulled it down.
	But we predicted all kinds of things in us just sitting there and rapping about this stuff.
	And it was fun doing it.
	We had some great guests.
	And we, and we said this other places too, we called out the George Floyd protests before George Floyd was killed.
	We said, this is the playbook.
	They're going to create violence in the streets.
	The recipe here is perfect for it.
	All these people are, you know, off work, you know, they're getting paid.
	We witnessed a lot of this stuff, you know, being called in for security contracts, witnessed with our own eyes people being paid to stir up trouble.
	You know, all kinds of things that were going to happen.
	So that was kind of the first touch and taste of it.
	And, you know, I was having fun.
	You know, my family and I were in a couple of PragerU videos.
	You know, during that time, again, I was live streaming.
	You know, Rob McCoy did a seven-day-a-week live stream at our church on stage that, you know, he jokes looked like an ISIS beheading video at first, super low-tech.
	And then, you know, gradually...
	We improved over time.
	So I was just doing those sort of things.
	Just saying yes to whatever was kind of how it worked.
	And then here we are.
	We began less than a year ago, I think now, getting close to a year on Salem's network.
	And we're getting close to 300 episodes.
	The friendships that I have with a lot of folks out there.
	Have been able to get me some really good guests.
	I nearly, and this will drive the left nuts, and I think it's going to happen in a month, but I nearly, two weeks ago, interviewed Alex Jones in his studio.
	And I thought that that would be a fun conversation because I wanted to ask him, you know, he's called the preeminent conspiracy theorist, and I will ask him when I get to do this, but how many conspiracies do you get to accurately identify before they just call you a conspiracy identifier?
	The thing is this, it illustrates the hypocrisy and the double standard or the hierarchy and the hierarchy.
	It's like, Alex Jones, he made a mistake on...
	Sandy Hook.
	Some people still think he didn't make a mistake on that, but setting that aside.
	Yeah.
	He apologized four times for it publicly before he was ever sued.
	No, absolutely.
	It's a terrible mistake.
	He's been right on...
	The water making the frogs gay was a hyperbolic way of saying that the chemicals in the water was having an effect on the reproductive elements of frogs.
	Fine.
	What's the other one?
	The cell towers have a number.
	5G, sorry.
	The 5G towers, mind control.
	Well, and my wife, who's a neuroscientist, Jones has been on at least twice, if not three times.
	She's like, that's crazy.
	And I was like, well, she looks into it.
	She's like, yeah, okay, fine.
	Mind control, not in the sense like it'll make you do things, but mind control is an interference with sleep, messing with your brain waves, which is destruction is a form of control.
	And so hyperbolic, but accurate.
	The big one is Epstein.
	The Epstein, he was talking about Jeffrey Epstein and pedophile islands and all of that stuff, naming him years, I mean, before it was on anybody else's radar.
	And he's saying, hey, there's this kind of crazy cult going on here.
	And then now we get the list of all these elites that have visited his island and none of them have gotten charged or investigated.
	We might come back to the details of that, although that's still a developing story.
	But Jones has been right.
	More often than he's been wrong.
	But then you look at MSNBC, which has been wrong on Russiagate, wrong on COVID stopping transmission, wrong on Sandman.
	You just go on and on and on.
	But when they get it wrong, it was a good faith error.
	We did the best we could with the information we had.
	So forgive us.
	We're still credible.
	But when other parties get it right but get it wrong once, discredit them forever.
	And it's just the hierarchy play, but it's the most frustrating thing in the world.
	They judge others by standards by which they do not judge themselves.
	And then they look at the people who were right about the COVID predictions and say, you guys were right, but you got lucky because you didn't have enough information, so good for you.
	We were relying on the experts, and that was the best we had at the time.
	And they understand the point, but they just want to weaponize mistakes in order to discredit or weaponize being accurate.
	For the purposes of empowering themselves.
	Well, they're Saul Alinsky acolytes.
	And all those techniques, it's not accidental.
	That's what they do.
	It's straight out of the rules for radicals, which, by the way, that book was dedicated to Lucifer.
	So I, as a preacher's kid, like to call these things demonic because I believe they are.
	Well, actually, two segments.
	I'm going to get to the rules for radicals just so we can read them, because it's fantastic.
	But speaking of demonic, let me just get to one Rumble rant on the Rumbles.
	JS62, Viva evil has been subverted by, quote, mental illness.
	Drug addiction leads to crime, hate, and evil.
	This is right versus wrong.
	Evil increases and good is decreasing.
	I see worse than that.
	Is the political exploitation and the political monetization of what is otherwise recognized as mental illness, which only further exacerbates it, encourages it, promotes it, multiplies it.
	And then the people who are weaponizing it get to feign virtue and further their own political power, their own political careers, at the expense of both the mentally ill and those who, which includes the mentally ill, suffer the consequences of that.
	I do not disagree with that statement.
	The only question is, how do you start maximizing and increasing the good?
	I think the democratization of the internet has allowed for that.
	Now, hold on.
	Just before that, we were talking about...
	Oh, geez, Bryce.
	I was going to say something.
	Leading into that, chat's going to have to help me.
	Well, you know, so I was talking, you know, I called it demonic, was sort of the last thing.
	Oh, Saul Alinsky.
	Saul Alinsky.
	Here we go.
	Let's bring this up.
	Everybody, it's worth reading, and it's worth understanding.
	And then whether or not he's good or bad just depends on what you think he implemented these rules for.
	Were these rules for identifying and combating, or were these rules for implementing and exploiting?
	And I think it's the latter, which is why Saul Alinsky was here.
	I believe he's a known radical Marxist communist.
	Power is not...
	It's fantastic, by the way.
	It is.
	For identifying.
	The rules, and this is the summary because it's a long book.
	Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.
	Okay, that's good.
	It's like Sun Tzu.
	Never go outside the expertise of your people.
	Okay.
	Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.
	This is classic debate techniques.
	Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules, which sort of implies that you should not live up to yours.
	Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.
	There is no defense.
	It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule.
	Also it infuriates the opposition who then react to your advantage.
	A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
	A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
	Keep the pressure on.
	This is all decent advice if you use it for building yourself up and not destroying others.
	The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
	The last one is the one I think is one of the most famous.
	Alrighty, so you get into the podcast and you start talking the culture wars stuff.
	You've been alive slightly longer than me.
	In your memory, when did presenting drag shows to children become the emphasis of anybody?
	When did that become part of the public discussion?
	You know, what's so wild about that is they will say they're not doing it.
	And I'll use a real example.
	They say that we're exaggerating it, or it's rare, and then we'll show a video of it, and then they literally will say half the time that that's not happening.
	I mean, it's really a bizarre thing.
	There's a guy in our local community that proudly says that he's a supporter of this, all that stuff he organized.
	A drag show in the park and invited all ages welcome.
	Again, here locally.
	Somebody in his group said, that's not happening.
	You're lying.
	Said, I was a liar saying that they're promoting this.
	Yet, here's this little poster that's out there.
	That's what's kind of insane about it.
	They're saying that we're crazy for also...
	We're suggesting that this is a group of fetishists.
	I mean, the reason that they're dressing up in this drag outfit is because it gives them excitement.
	The reason that they're bringing kids is because that heightens their excitement.
	Now, what the left will tell you is, oh, no, we're just showing children that there are other people.
	That have alternate ways of living and expressing themselves in life.
	Meanwhile, we'll show videos from those events where they're sexually gyrating in front of these kids' faces and having them put dollar bills in their pants.
	And they're just saying, oh no, we're just reading to them in the libraries.
	It's an amazing thing.
	It's perfectly analogous to how, let's call it socialism, communism, is defended in real life.
	They say, okay, the principle, it's an ideal.
	It's perfect.
	Every manifestation that has never worked out was because, you know, they didn't do it right.
	So drag shows, it's a beautiful thing.
	Oh, well, that was a bad example of a drag show.
	So let's forget that one.
	The rule is still good.
	But I've got to show you this.
	It's an amazing thing.
	Like, I don't have chat GPT.
	I know that it could have probably answered these questions earlier.
	But, you know, like, you just Google trends to determine when these things became things.
	And you can kind of pretty clearly see the trend.
	Of these things as to when they started becoming focal points of politics and policy.
	How do your kids deal with this?
	What is their life growing up in California?
	I know what my kids are seeing in Florida.
	I know what they saw in Canada.
	I know what I see now in Canada and what my kids see through their friends who are still in Canada.
	What's been your kids' experience watching this in California?
	And now that I'm recalling they're homeschooled, so they might have had a different experience with this.
	What's that life been like?
	Yeah, so first, I mean, the shame of this is, is if you choose, like, hey, I do not want my kids to be subjected to these fetish lifestyles and things like that, it is getting to the point where it is almost impossible not to have them exposed to this stuff even accidentally, just moving through life now.
	Now, we've homeschooled, and I think that there is an infinite advantage to homeschooling.
	Even well-meaning people will bring up, oh, well, how do you socialize your kids?
	How do you get them social interactions?
	Well, clearly, my kids are not short of the ability to have social interactions.
	You sat next to them.
	I think I did ask that question, actually.
	It's a stereotype that a lot of us who are not familiar with homeschooling have.
	They sit in a room in a garage, and they eat, live, and breathe at home.
	Yeah, well, my joke to people, well, okay, so we isolate them in this little small room and we don't let them out, you know, and that's how we're protecting them.
	But, of course, that's far from the case.
	And, you know, homeschooling 30 years ago is very different from homeschooling now.
	But my girls are a part of multiple orchestras.
	They're a part of speech and debate clubs.
	They're a part of lab groups.
	So it's a community of homeschoolers that get created.
	And, yes, they are, you know, here in our home.
	My joke is, with my wife, because they were always not home, I would always ask her, like, wait, I thought we homeschooled, because where are you guys?
	You know, every time I'd get home, middle of the day, and everybody would be gone, missing my family.
	I'm like, wait, oh, yeah, well, we're at debate club, you know?
	And so, clearly, what happens with kids who are homeschooled, which does give them a social advantage that's recognized by people who interact.
	With homeschool kids is they are dealing with children up and down the age spectrum first, right?
	So it's not like it is in public school where the second graders are not associating with the fourth graders, okay?
	These kids, the big kids are with the little kids.
	They're all playing together.
	They're all interacting.
	Working alongside one another while they're learning different subjects.
	But, you know, it's this whole cooperative kind of a thing that gives them an advantage.
	They're also interacting with adults as adults.
	So, you know, we're having conversations with them there.
	You know, they're sitting at a table at PragerU and my 14-year-old can engage you in conversation and can engage you, you know, at a very high mature level.
	Because they are socialized by a cross-section of people and not by screens and fellow kids in their peer group, and in many cases in a public school, idiots in their peer groups.
	And so it's an entirely different story.
	So anyway, that protects them from a lot of what we choose to have in our home, protects them from a lot of the...
	Crazy stuff that you can see out there.
	But of course, they're aware of it all.
	And my girls, the whole reason we went to the PragerU event was because they love Matt Walsh.
	And they listen to every single one of Matt Walsh's episodes.
	And so I got that rare picture with him, which is not easy to do.
	The ever-elusive Matt Walsh.
	I had my own...
	I didn't get to meet him.
	And I had my own impression as to whether or not he's...
	A curmudgeon in a good way.
	Like, he looks angry, he looks frustrated, he looks pissed with the state of the world.
	And I wondered, is that a persona or is that sort of him?
	And I don't think you can hide who you are when you spend as much time as some of us do on the interwebs.
	So he seems a little irritated at the state of the world.
	Maybe that'll change over time.
	You know, I think he's, you know...
	I say this and people go, what?
	But I'm a little bit of an introvert.
	I think he's an extreme introvert.
	I have all the skills of an extrovert, but boy, I need to recharge by being by myself.
	They termed that an ambivert at one point, but I think he will talk openly about even when Daily Wire throws intimate gathering parties for Daily Wire people and his crew and all that stuff, he won't go unless his wife's there.
	And, you know, so he avoids those things.
	And he comes in and he'll eat dinner at an event, do his speech, and then be out of there within seconds.
	And that's just the way he is.
	And, you know, hey, he's doing great work.
	I mean, I guess the question is, like, where do you see this all going?
	You live in California.
	I presume you live in an area that's sort of more ideologically aligned.
	But how bad does it have to get before?
	Even the people who support the nonsense say enough is enough.
	What I see happening is New Yorkers move down to Florida.
	Californians move to Texas.
	And instead of, I don't want to generalize, but the tendency sometimes you see, or at least you've seen it historically, and maybe it's changing now, they move, and instead of them changing their views because they're fleeing from the consequences of their own decisions, they then sort of start transforming the Austins.
	They bring their dumb ideas with them.
	I've been noticing now that the people I talk to who come from New York, I'm trying to think of some other Democrat states.
	I met someone recently who actually moved from Oregon, Portland.
	It seems to me they might start now learning the lessons as to not importing the policy from which they're fleeing.
	What do you see on the street in a daily life?
	Are people waking up in California or do they just say more of the same because we're not aware of what's going on?
	Yeah, so I think there's a lot of people that are just busy living their lives and unaware.
	And a lot of the folks that are endorsing the policies are or have been for many years shielded from them because they live in these nice gated communities.
	They go to work in these beautiful buildings.
	They drive these nice cars and they go to the nice restaurants and all that stuff.
	And so they can insulate themselves.
	Well, it's getting harder and harder to do that.
	It's getting more and more in your face.
	Classic liberals can get along.
	And we had for decades upon decades.
	But the far left has hijacked the liberal moniker.
	And the Overton window has moved so far that a guy like JFK would have been a hardcore Republican if you just looked at his policies.
	And again, it's just because of that shift to the left.
	More of these people are starting to recognize that something's wrong and, okay, enough is enough.
	Locally, we have a lot of follow-home robberies and we have burglars hiking through the trails and breaking into master bedrooms and ransacking and stealing everything they can and hiking back out again in neighborhoods where that never would happen.
	All of this stuff is getting people to, I think, wake up.
	Peter Tershin wrote a book called Ages of Discord.
	In about 2010, he studies the science behind historical rhythms.
	It's called Cleology.
	The book is okay.
	It's got a lot of charts in it, so I don't think it reads well.
	He wrote an article that was brilliant somewhere in 2010 where he said that 2020 would be the start of the most violent decade the world has seen.
	And he said it will last 5 to 15 years, and basically you have one outgoing generation and one coming up, and the one coming up will finally get to the point where enough is enough, and you'll return to solid principles of law and order, and people will want to return to those things that keep us safe, which includes knocking some heads, and includes...
	You know, institutionalizing mental health people, you know, and we need to give them treatment and all that.
	But giving them apartment keys or letting them defecate on the street is not going to solve the problem.
	I was just listening to Tim Dillon yesterday.
	The episode called The Negotiator, when he's talking about how he would resolve the Writers Guild Association protests.
	He's like, you know what?
	I would give them everything they want, more money, more of this, except they have to employ.
	One mentally ill crack addict off the street who comes into their room and works with them.
	See what they do then.
	Jim Dillon's great.
	I've recently discovered him and started listening in longer format.
	He is great.
	I'm torn on the mental illness issue and the institutionalization is a problem.
	I don't trust the government to do things better than private institutions and the government, at least in a great many places, has made it very difficult.
	Yeah, ordinarily you'd rely on charity, community, religious institutions.
	Those have been demonized into the ground because of historical problems, and rightly so.
	Flip side, government is a more broken institution.
	Someone is entering my office.
	Government's a more broken institution than any other institution, so I don't trust them to do things better.
	Agreed.
	But restoring law and order now, which will bring us into the...
	I don't know if you're vocal about...
	Support for Trump versus DeSantis in the upcoming 2024.
	May I ask your take on that?
	Have you taken a side in the DeSantis versus Trump, if it is a fight, battle for political leadership?
	Yeah, so I want to see a healthy...
	Challenge to Trump, certainly.
	And I would like to see the primaries and all of that.
	And I don't think we should just crown Trump as the option going forward.
	I think you need to have that process.
	I vacillate a little bit.
	I've met Ron DeSantis.
	I got to be on a boat with him down in Newport.
	There was only eight of us.
	And I found him to be a what-you-see-is-what-you-get.
	My assessment of him is very good.
	I like him.
	I think he has some massive advantages over Trump, most of which is he's just not Trump.
	And so there's a lot of folks that also, I think, the establishment thinks that they can control him, and he's one of theirs.
	Which I'm not so sure.
	But I think that that's why there is an establishment movement to, you know, of course, the establishment hates Trump because of that whole drain the swamp kind of a thing.
	I think they all know in the establishment that he's going to, in the words of Steve Bannon that got him in trouble, but parachute in with 20,000 shock troops.
	And they're like, Trump is going to bring in war, you know, to our...
	No, the idea is...
	Where Trump made his greatest errors was who he trusted in the administration.
	Where the establishment has their advantages, everybody was from the Bush administration, senior Bush administration when Bush Jr. came in.
	And so they have all these people to drop into all these management positions.
	And Trump...
	Thought of this like it's a business, and it's not a business.
	It might be the world's largest employer, but it's not a business.
	And you have all of these people.
	If you've ever run a business, if you don't do some strategic cleaning of the house...
	You will have all these people that say, yes, sir, yes, sir, absolutely, sir, right away, sir, and then passively, aggressively undermine you.
	Well, imagine if your little gravy train, as you've been fleecing the taxpayer for so long, you've been in this position for 30 years, you know, administrations come and go, your will is what's going to be done.
	And so Trump, I think, did not understand that coming in.
	If he comes in again, The party's over for a lot of people, so a lot of these folks are going to back DeSantis because they think that, well, okay, DeSantis will probably be our guy at the end of the day, and we can manipulate him.
	Trump, however, with the massive attacks against him, including this most recent one with E. Jean Carroll, without any evidence, they held him liable.
	And maybe I missed something.
	But of course, a New York jury is not going to be acquitting Trump or holding him not liable.
	Bryce, you missed nothing because there was nothing to miss because there was nothing there.
	We'll get to that in two seconds.
	But did you watch the town hall yesterday?
	I watched part of it, and then I was listening to, on my walking my dog this morning, I was listening to Tim Poole and his group, you know, kind of real-time report on it and, you know, live-stream it.
	And boy, he had some funny zingers in there, and I thought it was actually hilarious.
	And you got to see why Trump did so well the first time around.
	I had no idea that the audience was going to be as favorable to Trump.
	I didn't know it was going to be a Trump audience.
	I thought it was going to be a CNN audience, and I was expecting it to be more entertaining.
	Not that it wasn't entertaining.
	More entertaining in the adversarial sense, not in the outright destruction of the host.
	I forget her name now.
	I was watching it uncommentated, and then I was watching Crowder.
	And then I've been watching the breakdowns of it this morning.
	Mark Dice, by the way.
	Everyone out there, Mark Dice put out an amazing breakdown.
	It's incredible.
	What I'm shocked about is that I have not met one person who either, you know, I say publicly, who genuinely believes that what occurred in New York was justice.
	I don't even believe...
	David A. French, you know, comes out with his analyses.
	He's a lawyer, and I've been calling him the Banana Republic lawyer because he touts the Banana Republic positions.
	It was a strong case, he says, you know, a guilty ex-president.
	I don't think he genuinely believes it.
	I think he is just so...
	He's a paid shill.
	There's been no justice there, but it's a shocking thing to see the weaponization of the judicial system.
	And now...
	We do not have justice in our country now.
	I mean, we do not.
	Because it's either the in-crowd or the out-crowd.
	And if you are the out-crowd, you will not get justice.
	And of course, the January 6th defendants that just showed up there.
	And again, there's some people that did some wrong things and they should be held accountable of.
	And I liked his answer on that.
	Would you pardon these guys?
	I thought that was great.
	He says, many of them, yes.
	But some of them did some bad things.
	It was hardly an insurrection, but of course, they've got to keep that drum beat up.
	And then they'll ignore the in-crowd of folks that were attacking federal courthouses, locking the police in, trying to burn the buildings down.
	All of those people, or many of them, most of them, scot-free, got off.
	Their charges were dropped.
	Most people don't know about the 2017 insurrection.
	Hold on, I was about to say something.
	Oh, I initially started off, you know, his answer on that, you know, most of them, or some of them, many of them, yes.
	I've now sort of moved to the point where even those that actually committed violence, I mean, when there's no proportion between the sentence for those acts of violence and then the forgiveness for other acts of violence, at some point, I now understand how a president can come in and pardon people who are convicted of serious crimes.
	Only to the extent that their punishment so wildly exceeded the proportionality of their crime.
	I'm thinking of Blagojevich.
	I was listening to a podcast on his situation.
	I was like, okay, well, these guys are guilty.
	How do you pardon them?
	The punishment wildly exceeds the nature of the infraction.
	And you got your Molotov cocktail lawyers in New York who get basically a reduced plea even after agreeing to a plea.
	And then 14 years for a guy who threw a chair at a cop and allegedly pepper sprayed a cop.
	That's violent.
	That's bad.
	And if he had been punished properly, I would never even contemplate the idea of a party.
	I agree.
	Yeah, I think you and I agree 100%.
	But it's gone so far into this egregious level of...
	I've got some friends that got caught up in that, that were just there.
	None that had done or committed any violence or anything or even pepper sprayed a cop or even shouted at a cop, but just happened to be there and got wrapped up in it, which a lot of folks did.
	There were hundreds of thousands of people there, and it's made to seem like there was just a handful, 6,000 or so, and they were trying to overthrow our government.
	But it was interesting in that town hall how hard they kept trying to pin the electoral issues on him and the election integrity and everything there.
	And this is one where the left likes to go after me on.
	Bryce equivocates on this issue.
	Do I think we had a free and fair election?
	No, I do not.
	There are evidences of what I believe to be fraudulent behavior that even the left...
	I mean, there's a Times article bragging about how they ran this shadow campaign.
	You have the Hunter Biden laptop stuff.
	You have the confusion of mass mailing of ballots.
	You have the 2,000 mules.
	I was...
	Behind the scenes, when the 2000 Mules was filmed, they had Dennis Prager, Charlie Kirk, and Dinesh, and all those guys there, and they met here locally to film that, and I was there, and got to hear some of their afterward debrief, because most of those guys had not seen those videos of the...
	Ballot boxes being stuffed and some of that stuff.
	And so I got to kind of be behind the scenes on that, which was fun.
	But you add the sum total of all of that and the what I would call just lack of fair play and integrity in our system.
	And the lack of all of that makes me...
	Of course, and any reasonable human being on the earth makes me very concerned about our election system.
	At the very least, we should all come together, agree, clean it up, make it one day, have IDs, and get rid of all of the nonsense.
	That would be racist.
	And Canada, by that rationale, is a racist country.
	Two pieces of ID, photo ID.
	In order to vote.
	Let me bring up Mark Dice had the highlight in his video here.
	Just look at this.
	This was the video.
	Amazing point that he makes here.
	Hold on a second.
	In the Rose Garden.
	And I'm very proud of that video.
	I didn't have a script.
	I don't need scripts like a certain person that's in there right now.
	The video.
	It came out much later.
	By the way, if you look at her, she doesn't know what she's saying right now.
	The video.
	It came out months later after they had already attacked the Capitol.
	He's wrong.
	He's a great show to you.
	You have to go home now.
	We have to have peace.
	We have to have law and order.
	We have to respect our great people in law and order.
	We don't want anybody hurt.
	It's a very tough period of time.
	So that particular speech was not much later, nor was his tweets, which were taken down at the time.
	I'm flabbergasted at the level of corruption.
	And so nobody thinks I'm just picking on America.
	I mean, we have the same problems in Canada.
	It's just like, it's on steroids in America, if only because the population is 10 times bigger and the politicians are therefore a factor of 10 more corrupt.
	In Canada, you know, the people arrested for mischief from that protest had been in jail for longer than some people who committed violent crimes after sentencing.
	And so this two-tiered justice system...
	Exists as much in Canada as it does in the States.
	It's on a smaller scale.
	It's almost not noticeable to the rest of the world.
	The corruption in the politics of America and the big tech, as we've seen from the Twitter files, where they took down those tweets, they shut down his Twitter account because of the incitement of violence, and thus nobody could see the two tweets which were, before anything, be peaceful, etc.
	They took down that video off of Facebook.
	When it was contemporaneous with the events, and then say that he was promoting violence and they had to take down that video because it promoted violence or election disinformation.
	The corruption is astonishing.
	Has it always been this bad in your memory, Bryce?
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	Well, we're watching, and this might be off the point a little bit, but we're watching them take out...
	All of the big voices they possibly can as quickly as they possibly could.
	Alex Jones, who we mentioned earlier, was the first guy to be deplatformed everywhere.
	We have James O 'Keefe, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson now.
	The list goes on of people that have these big voices that can sway political opinion, Wake people up, that people pay attention to, and all of them are systematically, you know, there's attempts to destroy every single one of them, to take them off the board.
	It's astonishing.
	I look back at the Alex Jones deplatforming, and I think I understood the impact, but I don't think anyone could have possibly understood the impact of the impact.
	The orchestrated, protectual banning.
	From all platforms, from all podcasts, from the economic cutting off, it's astonishing.
	And then, you know, everyone was cool.
	It's Alex Jones.
	It's a bad man.
	We're cool with it.
	And then, lo and behold, big tech was more powerful and exercised greater power over the president of the United States when they went after him.
	And recently, it's been Tucker Carlson, Steven Crowder, to a lesser degree, Bongino, Lou Dobbs.
	Who else?
	The list is dramatic.
	And RFK.
	They're going after RFK Jr. now.
	Hard.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, look, I've had businesses, clients called on me, you know, saying that, again, I'm spreading hate, misinformation, disinformation.
	I'm attacking the trans children.
	I mean, all of this sort of stuff.
	And what's funny is about...
	I have a very core libertarian philosophy, and that libertarian philosophy goes like this.
	Let your freak flag fly.
	Do your thing.
	Have maximum freedom.
	Do whatever you want to do.
	Stay away from the children.
	Okay, let's not direct it at them.
	I believe that we're going to, again, being a Christian, we're going to answer to God.
	I believe in our society, we created so many laws to where laws are now unknowable.
	I mean, if they want to go after you or I legally for something, they can find something.
	And you, I mean, we'll bring it back to Trump in a second, but absolutely.
	Especially tax laws.
	I mean, there's a reason why they can, if they can't get you on murder, they can get you on tax.
	I mean, there's a reason.
	Yeah, and so my thing is I would love to see us, I would love to see the laws diminish and morality to rise.
	And I mean that even like, especially in the Christian community.
	I think in the Christian community, we're guilty of asking, let's say in business situations and things like that.
	Everybody asks, is this legal now?
	And they make legal arguments for things.
	Nobody asks, is this right?
	Is this moral?
	Is this ethical?
	And so the battle that's going on right now, the left has, remember, the ends justifies the means.
	I mean, they will lie, cheat, and steal because they believe that they are preventing the, and I believe some of them actually really believe this.
	They're the useful idiots, though.
	You've got to censor free speech to protect free speech.
	You've got to fortify elections to protect democracy.
	We have to punch the Nazis.
	And so we're going to do whatever it takes.
	And we'll lie and we'll libel and slander and whatever it takes in order to restore the balance.
	And then they all, of course, you talked about socialism earlier.
	They all believe that if they were in charge of implementing socialism, it would really work this time.
	You mentioned the laws.
	I was flying my drone somewhere.
	This was a few years ago.
	And it was so just flipping depressing.
	This had to be pre-COVID.
	And someone's like, are you allowed flying your drone there?
	I was like, why the hell would I not be allowed?
	Why would I have to ask permission to do basic things that are...
	I mean, everyone's going to say, well, you could fly your drone into an airplane and crash.
	Barring tremendously bad judgment.
	Imagine walking around.
	Are you allowed fishing here?
	Are you allowed being here?
	Are you allowed digging?
	Are you allowed metal detecting here?
	And we live in a world where you have to ask these questions all the time.
	What regulation, what rule am I breaking?
	Because we are regulated up the wazoo.
	But good luck trying to bring down that regulation.
	And I think Canada is way ahead of the states here on this.
	You build the administrative state and you get everybody to either be scared of the government or dependent on the government.
	And then you breed a culture where nobody can defy the government.
	We're sort of maybe there in the States.
	Beaches in the 1970s.
	You could sit there and drink a beer, throw the Frisbee with your loved one, have your dog, and now the signs that are posted at beaches of what you can and cannot do is like a mile long.
	We have regulated ourselves out of any kind of real liberty.
	It's amazing.
	Actually, I want to see if I can find my tweet about that a while ago.
	I went to a beach in Montreal.
	It was a joke.
	It said, no fishing, no drinking, no camping, no fires, no outside food, no glass bottle.
	I mean, the sign literally had at least six, if not more, items on it.
	I was like, this is great.
	And this is littering the landscape because you think anybody who's going to violate that is going to give a sweet bugger all that there's a sign there?
	Maybe if only for fear of the tickets, but you don't see cops roaming these areas either.
	So it's just the ones who don't care are not going to care.
	And you're still going to have the same problem.
	Bryce, where do you see it all going?
	And what do you see your role as being in where the trajectory of the zeitgeist is going?
	Yeah, so I mean, listen, my role, I'm a rabble rouser.
	And I hope that people are listening.
	I hope that people are waking up.
	I hope that people are paying attention to what's happening.
	I think that we aren't in a fight with these dumb, you know, local folks.
	We're in a fight against an elite oligarchy that's at the intersection between big, massive corporations and big government.
	Both of which fleeced us of our liberty and accelerated that process during the lockdown.
	So you saw that massive transfer of wealth.
	You saw these small businesses shut down.
	You're seeing this trend towards the regional banks shutting down right now.
	I have some genuine concerns that what we're moving towards is three or four financial institutions that can just...
	Tell you, hey, we're not going to bank with you if they don't like your politics, and then where else do you go?
	I think we're moving towards a central bank digital currency.
	They're trying to make that argument right now.
	All of these things are at the hands of a global cabal that would like to centralize power.
	From a Christian perspective, we...
	Have sovereignty.
	And Christ said to go make disciples of all the nations.
	Nations are a biblical concept.
	We aren't supposed to be a one-world government.
	And the closer you go to a one-world government, the more we are enslaved.
	And that's what this real fight is about.
	and we need to resist with everything we had.
	Alexander Svortis-Nitsyn in the Gulag Archipelago said if we had just...
	Grabbed our pitchforks and our shovels and gone after these people in the early stages of it, it would not have survived.
	And so I need more people with, and I'm not suggesting violence, with metaphorical pitchforks and shovels to be loudly denying some of these advances on our liberty.
	I mean, it is why they're coming after...
	Currency, digital currency.
	It's why they're coming after internet.
	It's anything that empowers the citizen and decreases the power of the government.
	And in case you're not following what's happening in Canada, Bryce, check this out.
	I couldn't find a better website than Seeking Alpha, but this is decent.
	Bank of Canada on Monday started a request for comments from the public on features that should be included in a digital dollar should the central bank issue one.
	And people's comments are, how about no?
	But the problem is people feel like they've lost the power to even resist.
	Well, here's how they do this.
	They do this the same way they've done everything so far.
	Everything has been for our safety.
	What they did with the lockdowns, it was for our safety.
	And then we traded that security for safety.
	The money issue will come down to collapsing economy, collapsing dollar, Collapsing Canadian currency, all that stuff, which the seeds are sowed for that right now.
	And then what they'll do is they'll say, oh, but don't worry.
	Here's a digital coin to replace all that money that now has no value.
	And this digital coin now has value.
	And people will eat it up.
	All the people that are saying, no, no, it won't affect me, will go, oh, my gosh, okay, give me that digital coin and all of the challenges that go with it.
	And what they will do is they will control you because every transaction that we do, even right now with our credit cards, has a code to it.
	And they will turn off the switch if you overconsume things that they don't want you to consume.
	And that will be as easy as anything that they've ever done.
	And that's the scariest thing that is on the horizon.
	Do we have a white pill, Bryce?
	I don't think we have a white pill.
	Maybe the black pill will be the white pill.
	It'll be the motivation for people to awaken other people, become vocal about it.
	They're coming after the internet so they can silence the voices so they can make this easier.
	And Canada is ground zero for this because we're seeing both these things happen at the exact same time.
	Censoring of the internet, introduction of CBDC, whatever the central bank did.
	CBDC.
	I'm going to go fill out the questionnaire and see what the questions are like.
	Bryce.
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	And that's my little tag there.
	But otherwise, just follow me.
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	Someone in the chat asked for a white pill.
	It's going to be something of a white pill.
	And this is the power of mockery.
	Alinsky's rules were not all bad if you use them for good.
	Hold on.
	Let me get this here.
	The Liberal Party, I started off with this tweet.
	Here, let's bring this up.
	I started off with this tweet, the video.
	This is it right here.
	Our caucus is proudly pro-choice and always will be.
	They might have to change the name caucus because that...
	Okay, I'm joking.
	We got to talk about this issue just a little bit.
	Okay, fine.
	This is the white pill, then we're going to talk about this for a second.
	Their initial video has 84, quote, 128 retweets.
	So that's 200 and some odd retweets.
	My response is, it's getting there.
	I'm telling you, the truth resonates.
	The mockery resonates.
	And my response was, holy hell.
	I won't bring it back up.
	Holy hell.
	Are you the most biggest hypocrites on earth?
	Pro-choice is what the guy says.
	And then Justin Trudeau.
	If you don't get the jab, there'll be consequences, woman.
	Bryce, let us know what you think.
	Although I think I can predict what you think.
	Yeah, well, first, let me give a little white pill.
	So I do think there's hope.
	And I think the hope is coming in subsequent generations, right?
	I think my, and not what you're seeing, you know, with these knuckleheads.
	I think there's a loud group of like Gen Zers and things like that.
	But I'm seeing an energy amongst our conservative youth that they are going to eat them for lunch eventually.
	Because, you know, while...
	While they are sterilizing themselves, voluntarily not having kids, while they are a bunch of low-T young men and all of that happening, we're going to see people who want to return to liberty coming up, having lots of kids.
	I think there's a little bit of a...
	There's a revival, a Christian revival coming as well.
	I think that there's wonderful, and of course, that includes all races, people.
	We're not just, the Christo-fascists are of every race and creed.
	But I think once you start to introduce those moral underpinnings again, and you start to come to a point, we're going to restore law and order, people are going to get tired of this nonsense, and I do see it happening amongst, you know, Kids like mine and others that are coming up.
	Go ahead.
	No, no, I was going to say, you have the second part to that, which was the pro-choice, the euphemisms of politics.
	Yeah, and by the way, we need to mock ruthlessly these euphemisms.
	Putting kids on puberty blockers is not healthcare.
	Murdering babies in the womb is not healthcare.
	And we need to accurately state what these things are.
	I just yesterday posted or last night posted a conversation I had with Pastor Jeff Durbin of End Abortion Now.
	And we get in pretty deep on this issue.
	So, you know, anybody who's interested in that, go to my channel.
	I think it's a fascinating discussion because even within the pro-life movement, there's some conflict on how to go about these things.
	And it centers around whether women...
	Should be held accountable for the abortion issue in some of these states where they are removing abortion as an option.
	And the truth is, is that we should all be held accountable for our decisions.
	But if you don't hold women accountable for making these decisions too, then you cannot hold the people who are coercing them.
	You cannot hold the human traffickers.
	You cannot really hold this thing off.
	I had a little bit of a post that went viral on somebody else's channel where I said that men need to get involved in this debate because it is our responsibility as protectors and abortion rapes women's souls and it murders babies.
	And we need to stop this Holocaust now.
	And this is one of the areas in which I'm unequivocal and hardcore.
	I'll bring something up.
	I've always said like, I think most people agree.
	90% of people agree in principle, even if some agree that it's an evil to some extent that needs to be tolerated with a certain window.
	And then I get those who say no limits and there's those who say no tolerance.
	This article is old.
	Maybe the laws have changed in Europe.
	May 8, 2022.
	But when people look at America and say, holy crap, it's the most misogynist.
	Denying reproductive rights of women.
	In France, getting an abortion after 14 weeks gestation requires approval from a physician.
	Germany, anybody seeking an abortion must undergo mandatory counseling.
	Norway has abortion on request, but only in the first trimester.
	And then you get your diehards in America saying the heartbeat law is a violation of women's rights while lauding the laws they misconstrue in other countries.
	The abortion debate will always be divisive.
	But it becomes even more polarizing when you have the exceptions trying to pretend that that should be the rule and people refusing to place any limits, any restrictions whatsoever, and the euphemisms.
	I mean, whether you support abortion for any window, to refer to it as reproductive rights, you are sugarcoating an evil that you might think is one that needs to be tolerated, but you're sugarcoating it in the same way you are when you say, like, gender-affirming hysterectomies.
	I think those are morally not equivalent to a certain extent, but yeah, the euphemisms.
	Well, listen, my heart goes out to women who have had abortions, and I think that there's a lot of women who have done that, and in order to reconcile that and seek forgiveness, which God can forgive you for that, I think they double down on this, and it is twisting their souls, and they deserve mercy and love.
	Again, repentance can provide that and they can be forgiven of that.
	The truth is everyone knows when life begins.
	The argument is not that.
	The argument really is when does it have value?
	And a Christian believes it has value upon that moment of conception or fertilization.
	And left to its own growing devices, it will become a full human being.
	And so to argue that it is a clump of cells...
	You know, Bill Burr, who I think is a great comedian, had a wonderful little bit on that where he likens it to a cake.
	And he says, you know, yeah, you murdered my cake, you cake murdering son of a bitch.
	And I think it was a fabulous little thing.
	But the truth is, we all know.
	I'm going to have to go dig that.
	I'm going to have to go find that one because I'm familiar with Bill Burr thoroughly, but I'm not sure I know that one offhand.
	It's hilarious.
	And I can tell you, it's in Canada yet again.
	Now they're going the other way.
	Canada, only country on earth, or only nation, with no restrictions in the criminal code on abortion.
	And now they're trying to expand...
	Hold on, where is it?
	No, this is in Norway.
	I'm sorry.
	They're expanding euthanasia down to infants of one-year-old.
	Okay, well, I guess we should.
	We maybe ought to have left on the white pill, but that's enough of a white pill there.
	Bryce, thank you very much.
	Stick around.
	We'll say our proper goodbyes after this.
	Everyone on Rumble, hope you enjoyed.
	Snip, clip, share away.
	It's been fantastic.
	I was on Bryce's channel a while back.
	I'll recirculate that, but Bryce, thank you for coming on.
	Fantastic.
	If you're on the East Coast, you'll let me know, and I'll put all the links where people can find you.
	Everyone in the chat.
	Thank you.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to end this here.
	And Bryce, stick around.
	We'll see our proper guys.
	Everyone out there, peace, peeps.
	Peace.
	Hold on.

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