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Nov. 7, 2022 - Viva & Barnes

02:00:07

Elon Musk BANS "Lefties"; More Vax Stuff; & LIVE with Journalist Andrew Gold! Viva Live

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	I don't know if I have a bias here.
	This is the most annoying thing on earth to watch.
	Does this annoy everyone else as much as it annoys me?
	AOC, in this particular video clip, is conducting herself as though she is the coolest and most important person on the universe.
	In the universe.
	On Earth.
	It's like someone's acting like how to act like an arrogant narcissist.
	First of all, we talked about this last week.
	I have to do it again because who eats like this?
	Who picks apart a chicken nugget with their fingers and eats potching like a...
	I don't know what.
	Potching on camera like she's the coolest person on earth.
	First of all, I thought it says co-op city.
	I thought she was in co-op city.
	I'm in like co-op city.
	Okay.
	In co-op city.
	Does everyone hear that in the background also?
	It sounds like a dog is snoring.
	I'm serious.
	That sounds like a dog snoring.
	Okay, set that aside.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	Let me just pick it.
	Let me pull another piece of chicken here.
	Seriously, I hear heavy breathing in the back of this video.
	I don't know if AOC has a dog or if the cameraman or camera woman, camera person.
	rather maybe the camera person wants one of those chicken nuggets you Thank you.
	It couldn't be just a random hiccup of a glitch.
	In fairness to AOC, I immediately have the reflex, the reaction.
	We're done with this now.
	I immediately have the reflexive response.
	Something has happened.
	They've deleted my accounts.
	Like when I go to refresh my Twitter feed, if it doesn't immediately refresh, I think I've been nuked.
	If there's a glitch on monetization on YouTube, I think I've been canceled.
	So I can forgive AOC for that.
	I was going to say, people, I was going to say that for the first time ever, I didn't have an audio issue.
	I wasn't even going to make the joke.
	Why the hell?
	I was going to make the joke.
	I finally got a stream started, and I didn't have any audio issues.
	I made sure the mic was set up properly before.
	What the hell is the problem that when I share the screen...
	Great!
	Yeah, the audio's fine, but I wasn't reading the chat.
	Oh my god, every time.
	Every time I think I've overcome my neuroses about...
	I'm going to get everything lined up properly.
	Why will it not play the freaking audio?
	Why?
	Okay, let me try.
	I better get the audio of the guest.
	That's for sure.
	Let me just see what the fudge is going on.
	Oh my gosh, that's annoying.
	Well, other than that, how's everybody doing?
	AOC accuses Musk.
	A Twitter.
	I have to go find the article again.
	Well, okay, hold on.
	Let's just do one thing.
	We're going to do a test.
	I'm going to try to use another browser and see if we can hear the audio when I share the screen.
	How's everybody doing?
	Other than that, I'm not sweating now.
	Now I'm just angry.
	Now I'm going to have to go over.
	When I fix this, I'm going to have to go overlay it.
	Okay, it's AOC eating chicken saying...
	It seems I got under...
	I go home from a...
	You saw the text.
	You just didn't hear her.
	So I guess it's not that bad.
	But hold on one second.
	No, I'm not playing the Ethan Klein video.
	That'll get us booted from YouTube.
	Okay.
	Well, let me just see what exactly the problem is.
	If I go to new window, I'm going to use Safari.
	I'm going to see if we can hear the audio there.
	Let's just see.
	Shared screen.
	I blame the browser.
	I blame the kids.
	But the kids are at school, so I can't even blame the kids.
	Now I can't see application window.
	Let's see if I do this.
	Okay, so do we...
	Let's see what we see.
	Okay, I think we may have troubleshot, troubleshooted the problem.
	Okay, so we're there.
	Now let me just go here.
	Now, do we hear audio?
	Well, wait, wait.
	We can't hear audio because we can't see...
	Did you hear audio there?
	Okay, forget it.
	Damn it.
	Good morning.
	Good afternoon.
	I'm convinced.
	Look, I'm going to blame the kid.
	Actually, I blame the kid.
	Because I'm using my old Mac, which I gave to my daughter.
	And for some reason, the Frippin' Audio doesn't want to play.
	It doesn't want to play.
	Okay.
	So, I'm not blonde.
	I used to have platinum blonde hair.
	Okay.
	AOC accused Elon of getting under Elon's skin.
	He went and blocked her mentions allegedly, allegedly.
	Okay.
	Hi, Viva.
	Have you seen the trailer on Rumble dead suddenly?
	The dead are finally speaking up.
	I have not seen that, but I will definitely go watch that.
	AOC was accusing Elon Musk of having gone in and sabotaged her mentions, which I don't even...
	I mean, I know what mentions are because I think you can go there and see when people are mentioning you, but I don't know whoever has those on because you'd go crazy seeing...
	You'd go crazy seeing all the mentions and tags if you had them on.
	But she thought, you know, her jab at Elon about the $8 thing got under Elon's skin, a billionaire, got under some billionaire skin, and he went in and sabotaged her mentions.
	And I was saying, you know, I understand that reflex.
	We live in a time where we immediately seek to blame things on algorithms, you know, partisan censorship, etc.
	Sometimes it's just a glitch.
	It's just a temporary glitch.
	One day I woke up, monetization on my second YouTube channel was off.
	I was like, holy cows, that's it.
	They've come for me.
	And it was just a glitch because it happened to other people.
	But what's going on on Twitter is glorious.
	I mean, there's been scandals.
	Scandals, and we're going to go over them.
	We're going to go over some Twitter scandals.
	Kathy Griffin.
	Kathy Griffith or Kathy Griffin?
	Kathy Griffin.
	Banned.
	Why is she banned?
	Well, it depends on who you ask.
	If you ask Elon, it's...
	Because she, against the rules, impersonated another account.
	We're going to get to the defenses of parody and all this stuff.
	You have to know the rules if you want to break the rules.
	If you ask fake news, she got banned for mocking Elon Musk.
	Ethan Klein, banned as well.
	Permanently suspended.
	Apparently they can get their accounts back for eight bucks.
	Why?
	Impersonating Elon.
	It's parody.
	It's parody.
	If you're going to push the envelope, know the rules and, you know, and or be the...
	Learning curve for somebody else.
	We're going to go over some vaccines.
	It's not vaccine stuff, I should correct.
	It's just anomalies.
	Scotland reporting shockingly high neonatal death rates.
	But don't worry, it's not the jibby jab.
	They don't know what it is, but they know what it's not somehow.
	Miraculously, we'll cover the article.
	And then...
	And then we're going to have Andrew Gold, who's going to pop in, and we're going to have a good discussion with Andrew Gold.
	We're going to talk about some of the Elon stuff, and we're going to talk about some other issues, which I'm going to let Andrew lead us into.
	Andrew is a BBC documentarian, podcaster.
	I should have put his links now, but I'll put his links afterwards.
	Great guy.
	I've been on Sean Atwood with Andrew a couple of times.
	Very cool guy.
	He's going to have a lot to talk about.
	So, by the way, I'm going to star this.
	I want to star this as well because I'm going to come back to it and say I've started.
	We're going to come back to that in the discussion.
	This is the beautiful thing is when you're protecting enemies or adversaries, you are also protecting allies.
	Now, I'm not saying Count Dankula is an ally any more than Ethan Klein is an enemy.
	I do not like Ethan Klein, content or human from what I can surmise of him as a human from the interwebs.
	I like...
	Count Dankula, from what I can surmise of him as a human, from the interviews, I had him on for a sidebar.
	It was classic.
	And I know that other people, as jokes, were changing their profiles to official accounts.
	I saw Elon Musk let me back on Twitter, and it looked like a Donald Trump blue checkmark verified account.
	I'm not an idiot, and so I click on the account, and I read the tag, not the handle, but the actual name under the handle, and it was Count Dankula.
	I was like, oh, okay, you got me.
	I'm glad I didn't retweet it.
	I noticed some other people did retweet it thinking it was legit.
	So, you know, the idea that you're not protecting allies or adversaries if you're just protecting the system and you're protecting justice in a sense, it's a lofty way of describing the juvenile quibbling on Twitter, but you protect the system, you necessarily have to apply it equally to ideological adversaries as to allies.
	We're going to get into it.
	I'm reading a chat from Buff Cheese, which I'm not sure how accurate it is, but...
	Oh, damn the damn audio.
	Anyhow, damn it.
	Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn.
	Okay, let me just make sure that we're live.
	I mean, I presume I would have seen in the chat.
	Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, He was on Rumble.
	He was on Rumble.
	You don't get to see live chat if you're not signed in.
	Okay.
	I'll fix that in a second.
	We're live on Rumble.
	That's what matters.
	So.
	Thank you.
	Are we okay now?
	Cripe almighty.
	Okay, give me two seconds.
	Give me two seconds.
	Now it's going to be fine.
	We have AT&T.
	It's good now.
	If it happens again, I'm just going to go get the other computer and...
	And then...
	I need better upload speed.
	Okay.
	Let me know if it happens again.
	I'll just get the other computer and I'll just unplug it and it'll take two seconds to switch over.
	Maybe I'm going to do it before.
	So standard disclaimers, no election fortification advice, no legal advice, and no medical advice.
	And the other standard disclaimer is by now you might have noticed that you've seen sponsored video.
	In the thingy thing, because this is a sponsored video, and I'm going to thank my sponsor today is Field of Greens yet again.
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	Your prostate will thank you.
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	It's...
	What people need, it's a reminder to be healthy.
	It's a moment of healthiness.
	It's a glass of water with all of the nutrients of powdered, pulverized vegetables in a glass.
	And it's made in America.
	I spent a half an hour on the phone with the doctor of that company.
	And he's going to be on, actually, Wednesday.
	I'm going to ask him some more questions live.
	We're going to have a 10-minute at the end of the stream.
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	Fieldofgreens.com.
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	And it's good stuff.
	And I thank them for actually supporting someone like myself, despite all the audio issues.
	Okay, we're good.
	We're good now.
	We're good.
	First things first.
	What's going on with the Emergency Attack Commission?
	Everybody's watching it.
	I have it simul-streaming now on Viva Clips on YouTube and on Rumble.
	Boring-ass day is what it is.
	But it's going to be boring until we have good witnesses like...
	Justin Trudeau, which I don't know when he's coming up, but he will be coming up.
	Today we've got the mayor of Windsor.
	For those of you who don't recall, there was not only a protest in Ottawa, there was a blockade at the Windsor Bridge between Michigan and Ontario.
	I did not say defecated, I said desiccated.
	Desiccated means dried and pulverized.
	Defecated is what you do after you eat dried and pulverized.
	There was the blockade of the Windsor Bridge.
	So you have now the mayor of Windsor talking about how serious it was, yada, yada, yada.
	As far as I'm concerned, anybody who's been following this, you can go watch it today.
	All a load of crap.
	The Windsor Bridge blockade was resolved before the Emergency Act was invoked by Trudeau.
	Some people don't seem to know that.
	When Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act in Ottawa, the blockade, and we'll call it a blockade, had been resolved.
	At the Windsor Bridge, they got a court order, they cleared a lane, and they had resolved the blockade at the Windsor Bridge before Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act for Ottawa.
	So all that they're successfully proving is that this all could have been resolved without the EA because they had a much more serious issue in Windsor, financially, strategically, etc., that they resolved successfully without invoking the Federal Emergencies Act.
	And it's just a load of boring nonsense.
	And all that they're doing is proving what an absolute egregious overreach it was to have invoked the Emergencies Act to violently suppress the most peaceful protest Canada had ever seen.
	So it's going to be more boring stuff until there's good stuff.
	When there's good stuff, we'll get back to it.
	That's the latest in the Emergencies Act update for anybody who cares.
	Keep doing what you do, but get a haircut.
	Roger M, thank you.
	The haircut?
	No, I just want to resolve the bloody...
	One day, we're going to have a perfect show and we're going to set the standards for the future, which will be perfection.
	But like I often want to say, if you came here for perfection, you will be sorely disappointed.
	And to quote Oasis, true perfection has to be imperfect.
	Okay, that's the update on the Canadian stuff.
	You can go watch that.
	It's all day long.
	The commissioner, who is a judge, Rouleau, is doing an amazing job.
	Last week was, I think, the most interesting week of witnesses.
	It was the convoy witnesses.
	The next most interesting witness...
	If I don't actually manage to squeeze my way in there, we'll be Justin Trudeau.
	Holy sweet, merciful crab apples.
	Would that be amazing?
	Okay.
	Let's talk neonatal death rates.
	Nobody knows.
	Nobody knows what it is, but somehow they know what it's not.
	We've looked into it.
	We don't know what it is, but we definitely know what it's not.
	So here's the latest.
	This is from...
	Let me just see what it's from.
	It's from a month ago, give or take.
	From the Herald.
	Reputable.
	So I'm not pulling from sites that people would easily discredit.
	Now I'm so bloody nervous, I'm just going to go back to the chat and make sure everything's good.
	COVID Scotland.
	Vaccines ruled out in neonatal death spike.
	Okay, that's interesting.
	I mean, we don't know what it is.
	When someone says we don't know what it is, but we've definitively ruled out something else, especially since I didn't start off like this, they've made me like this.
	It's like that meme.
	What's the word they look for?
	Who radicalized you?
	You did.
	When I see that they've ruled out...
	Vaccines.
	When a year ago, they had ruled out vaccines for menstrual interruptions in women.
	And a year later, they say, yeah, it might affect it up to a month later with heavy bleeding in as much as what?
	What did they say?
	Like 20% of all people?
	10 to 20?
	Oh, yeah.
	When a year ago or two years ago, they said, no, vaccines will not interrupt your period.
	You're a conspiracy theorist for saying it.
	And a year later, oh, sorry.
	It's now been publicly confirmed.
	And anybody who said it a year ago and was banned from social media, me scusi.
	I didn't start like that.
	But I'm like that now.
	I'm like that now because they've made me like that now.
	Because a year from now, I expect this headline to be 180 degrees the opposite.
	But let's just not let my media trauma taint anything.
	COVID Scotland.
	Vaccines ruled out in neonatal deaths spike.
	Public health experts ruled out Any link between spikes in neonatal deaths and the COVID vaccine without checking whether any of the infant's mothers had received the jab, the jag.
	They call it the jag in Scotland?
	Or the jab during pregnancy?
	Experts stress.
	By the way, experts.
	The same experts.
	Fauci.
	Masks are useless.
	Oh, what's that?
	No, wear masks.
	The same Fauci.
	This didn't come from a lab in China.
	Oh, this came from a lab in China.
	The same Fauci, we do not fund gain-of-function research in a lab in Wuhan, China.
	Oh, what's that?
	We fund NGOs that fund gain-of-function research in labs in China.
	Yeah, that's the same experts.
	Experts stressed that there was no plausible, quote, link between the unusually high levels of mortality among newborns in September last year and March.
	This year, to justify investigating maternal vaccination status.
	That's fantastic.
	That's like Ned Flanders' beatnik parents.
	We've done nothing and we're all out of ideas.
	Public Health Scotland said its consultants had given, quote, careful consideration, end quote, to the, quote, potential benefits and harms, end quote, of carrying out...
	of carrying out...
	Of carrying out such analysis as part of its probe into the tragic deaths of 39 infants, but concluded against doing so because it was not possible to identify a scenario that would have resulted in a change to public health policy and practice, given that vaccination policy was already appropriately informed by good quality population level.
	I'm going to double-check the Herald to make sure that the typos are making me a little concerned here.
	In a statement, PHS added that there was also a risk that, quote, identifying the vaccination status of the mothers, even at aggregate level, would result in harm to those individuals and others close to them through actual or perceived judgment of the effects of their personal vaccination decision.
	Don't tell us, don't investigate into the potential truth because it might upset us.
	Furthermore, the outcomes of such analysis, whilst being uninformative for public health decision making, had the potential to be used to harm vaccine confidence at this critical time.
	I am just going to double check that these are actual quotes because this is so preposterous.
	How far down does this article go?
	We're going to keep going.
	I just want to see what the chat has to say about this.
	In the chat, if anyone could just...
	I want to make sure that the Herald is the paper that I thought it was.
	A year ago, the cause remains a mystery with preliminary investigation by PHS finding no direct link with COVID infections in either the mothers or infants and no...
	...I think...
	...and the people who are in the hospital are in the hospital.
	Thank you.
	Given the magnitude and consistency of the changes, but the report does point to social and economic pressures of the pandemic period.
	We've ruled out any correlation between the jibby jab, but social economic pressures and pandemic, that might have something to do with it.
	As if that wouldn't be the same in other areas where they haven't...
	Thank you.
	As well as problems around healthcare, adding that the national network has reported periods of staffing pressure in part due to COVID-19 absences.
	By the way, if neonatal deaths are spiking because of problems in the healthcare...
	...better.
	Because it still results from absolute government incompetence.
	Investigators examining regional variation in relation to the September 2021 spike, when 21 newborns died, found that the neonatal mortality in NHS Lothian had previously had been nearly twice the national average.
	So they're saying, we've ruled out vaccines because if it's twice the national average, we would have seen it elsewhere in the nation.
	I'm not getting into any medical advice or nothing.
	I'm getting into nothing.
	Dr. Malone, in the stream which is now on Viva Clips, you can go watch the entire stream, did mention things known as bad batches, where you could actually go online and because the information had been aggregated as to adverse effects reported to VAERS versus batch status,
	you could see geolocation, where there were bad batches, purported bad batches, or where there were Statistically more reported adverse events geographically located based on batches.
	Let's put it that way.
	And we can go on.
	I'll give you the link for everyone out there.
	Sigh.
	Let me just make sure.
	I had used this computer all last week, and there was no lag or anything.
	There seems to be a bit of lag today.
	Let's just make sure that this quote that they're attributing is accurate.
	We've got the Herald Scotland.
	Herald Scotland legit.
	Okay, so this looks...
	Not that I trust media.
	This is like where you don't even know who to trust anymore.
	Do I go to a bias rating site to rate the news site?
	I don't trust the bias site to rate a news site I don't trust.
	There's no trust in anything.
	Okay, but fine.
	Factual reporting, high.
	Good.
	Okay.
	So that's coming out of Scotland, by the way.
	I presume the argument is going to be, well, it's high in certain locations.
	It's twice the national average, so it can't be vaccines because the national average of vaccination is at whatever it's at.
	All right, I would be interested in bad batch aggregation of reported adverse events, possibly.
	And then the issue becomes, could this even be a potential reportable adverse event, which might itself...
	Determine a bad batch.
	Who knows?
	I don't know.
	Not a doctor.
	This is the news coming out of Scotland.
	They've determined that there is a spike in neonatal deaths.
	They haven't looked into the jibby jab, but they've ruled it out because nothing good can come out of determining that it could potentially be that.
	Except for now we know, based on what's been reported in the UK and what's always been stated in the UK, that they have insufficient data to assure pregnant and breastfeeding women.
	That the Jibby Jab is safe for them and their unborn or newborn child.
	We know that.
	We talked about that a while ago.
	We went over two websites in the UK, official government websites, one saying it's safe and effective for pregnant and breastfeeding women, and the other saying, all the way at the end, that they cannot make any assurances because they have insufficient data to come to any conclusions as to the safety and efficacy of the Jibby Jab.
	But what I was looking at, just my own, Personal?
	You know, I come to no conclusions, but I just ask the question, what was the vaccination rate by country in Scotland?
	This is the best I could find.
	It's old, and I mean, like, you know, I don't know what's considered vaccinated anymore.
	Like, double doses, is that considered vaccinated?
	So if now they say, well, you know, Scotland's only 63% vaccinated because they're including the third booster after your fifth shot on some websites, is that vaccinated?
	Apparently, in Scotland, it was like 93%.
	This is from the BBC, so we can trust this to not be a source that we can get made fun of for citing, even though I don't trust it.
	What was the percentage?
	And I think it was 93%.
	Here we go.
	Scotland has vaccinated 93%.
	Of those aged 12 and over with at least one dose, while England wills have 92%.
	Second doses are also being rolled out with all nations reaching more than 80%, over 20% so far.
	So I guess the idea they're going to say, the neonatal spike in deaths in one area could not be attributable to the jibby jab because if we're at 80 plus percent throughout, we should see that same throughout.
	Okay.
	That's ignoring the possibility that it could come from the aggregator of bad doses, quality control, which there isn't, and whatever.
	That does not consider that possibility.
	But I was in looking this up, everybody.
	In looking this up, I just wanted to see...
	I came across another article, which I also found to be interesting.
	This is from South Africa.
	November 4th, 2022, dramatic decreases in maternal and newborn deaths in South Africa sustained despite COVID challenges.
	So you're going to say in one country, Scotland, they've ruled out the jibby jab, however and for whatever reason we can only hypothesize, and they blame it on COVID stresses.
	In another location, they have a decrease despite COVID challenges.
	Let's just read this very quickly.
	South Africa has made great progress towards reducing maternal mortality, yep, and newborn deaths over the past decade.
	However, the country still needs to...
	Well, where is it?
	Read the article.
	Where was it?
	Okay, we're not...
	We're not going to go into the article because it's going to open up a new window.
	We'll stick with dramatic decrease.
	In maternal and newborn deaths in South Africa, despite.
	So in South Africa, despite COVID restrictions, whatever, they've had a decrease.
	Scotland's had a massive spike.
	And I was curious.
	We know that Scotland is 93% got one jab.
	Over 80% got two jabs.
	I just want to see what was South Africa, just to compare.
	This is South Africa vaccination.
	November 4th.
	Here we go.
	In South Africa, right here, the most affected country on the continent, the vaccination rate instead reached around 63%.
	63%.
	Just, I mean, interesting numbers.
	You got to correlate the dates.
	And it raises other questions.
	Is that, okay, fine.
	South Africa less vaccinated than Scotland, well, you wouldn't expect to see a decrease in neonatal deaths.
	You might just expect to see an increase from their baseline, but less than another country that might be it, if you're going to blame it on the jibby jab.
	All of this to say, there are questions.
	We can correlate things.
	And we can also definitively conclude that anybody with the audacity and the intellectual dishonesty to say we've ruled out something that we haven't looked into, and the reason for which we've ruled it out is that nothing good can come out of actually finding that to be the cause, that is obscene.
	Officially obscene.
	Anyhow, other smarter people like Dr...
	I don't know what it is.
	Dr. Campbell.
	I've seen a few videos where he's looking into it.
	He's a better mind than me.
	Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, Dr. Francis Christian, Dr. Harvey Reich.
	They'll look into it.
	I would trust their opinion much more than my own cursory assessment, but that's the news at least.
	And that's the latest on the Jibby Jab.
	Okay, let's get to something a little lighter.
	TikTok drama.
	You may or may not be aware, if you don't live on TikTok, like some of us, you might not be aware of the drama, but since Elon's taken over, people have gone off their effing rockers, thinking the world is coming to an end.
	Free speech.
	It's a very funny thing, by the way.
	It's a very funny thing that...
	It is both extremes to some extent who think that free speech means the freedom to run around screaming the N-word.
	Like, I don't know how people think like this.
	Like, oh, if it's freedom of speech, people are going to be running around screaming the N-word all over Twitter.
	If I were gifted the gift of freedom of speech, that's not where I would go, and that's not where my mind would go.
	Now, I know people say, like, okay, Gab is the free speech bastard because you can go around and scream the N-word and the K-word and all the other, the F-word and all the stuff.
	The fact that lefties, and I'm calling them lefties, not politically, but like, I won't say stereotypically, ideologically, the blue check marks who pride themselves on peace, love, and tolerance, and then at the same time want to censor people for hate speech, deplatform them for misgendering.
	They're the ones who are afraid of free speech because they seem to think that anyone who benefits from free speech is going to run around screaming.
	Racial epithets, racial slurs, which is a very, very bizarre reflex as far as I'm concerned.
	Even the N-word shouldn't be cause for silencing someone.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Give it one more.
	I'm going to get the other computer.
	You froze in your back.
	Mixing verification with freedom of speech will police itself.
	Let me just wait for this damn thing to get me one more.
	Okay, I'm connected to the internet.
	Okay, we're better now.
	Sorry about that.
	Good, we're back to normal.
	They did say that there is a tropical storm coming for tomorrow to Thursday.
	So maybe...
	I'll blame the weather.
	Okay, I'm back.
	I'm back.
	Where was I?
	Oh, yes, that's right.
	The N-word.
	Shouting the N-word around.
	You create a platform.
	It's not a problem to have clear and objective rules that are applied equally to all people.
	If you don't like the rules, go to another platform.
	The issue is, just on the N-word as the example, well, how do you say that people can't say it, but then you have music that has the word as every second word?
	Well, some people get to say it, and others don't.
	That's a problem.
	I mean, that's a problem in terms of application of rules.
	So having rules that are just hard and fast rules apply to everybody, don't like it, go away.
	You want to go, you want porn, don't go to YouTube.
	Not being able to broadcast porn on YouTube is not a violation of freedom of speech.
	It's rules that apply to everybody.
	Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, whatever.
	The no porn rule on YouTube is applied equally to everybody.
	Where it becomes the problem is specifically with things like subjective speech.
	So the N-word you'll get banned for unless you're singing a song.
	The N-word you'll get banned for if it's not in comedy, if it's not in a skit.
	The K-word, which is the offensive word for the Jews, that'll get you kicked off unless it's satire, unless it's comedy, unless it's, I don't know, I've never heard the K-word in a song, in a hip-hop song before.
	So the problem is not clear rules that you may not like that are applied equally to everybody.
	It's the subjective rules that are ambiguous, opaque, and that are weaponized politically to go after some people but not others.
	Nude yoga is allowed on...
	It is?
	I've been meaning to get into yoga.
	I'm joking.
	So the stereotypical lefty...
	Twitter types have been freaking out.
	Elon's taken over.
	And then a whole bunch of bot accounts magically created to hurl around the N-word.
	You know, it was a week ago last Friday.
	And then it was like, oh, look, look, the N-word's there.
	It's there now as if it wasn't there before, by the way.
	I've seen so many accounts dropping the N-bomb.
	This platform's gone to hell since Elon took over.
	It turns out it's a bunch of bots, regardless, sabotaging the platform.
	But by the way, spoiler alert to all the pearl clutches, now that I know what that term means.
	To the pearl clutches out there, there's always been very bad stuff on Twitter.
	Always.
	Very bad stuff.
	And I'm not just talking about the P-O-R-N bad stuff.
	I'm talking bad stuff.
	And I only know because I saw an episode of Howard Stern where they were talking about something which I did not believe existed.
	And I went to the individual's Twitter account, which I did not believe was going to be a real Twitter account.
	And there's stuff on Twitter that is, blow your mind up, gross.
	Legal, but gross.
	Then there's stuff that's illegal on Twitter, which people like Eliza Blue have been talking about for a long time.
	That doesn't seem to bother people all that much.
	You know, bot accounts throwing around the N-word to sabotage the platform.
	Everyone...
	Clutches, pearls, and screams when someone thinks of the children.
	When it comes to actual children on the platform being exploited and other stuff, we've covered the lawsuits.
	Silence.
	Come on.
	We can't do anything about that.
	So anyways, that was the outrage.
	And now came some banning.
	I don't know how they thought this was a good idea, but Kathy Griffin decided to create a parody account.
	Kathy Griffin verified blue checkmark Twitter.
	Best known for her bannings of carrying Donald Trump's severed head in a photograph that some photographer managed to trick her into taking, she decides she's parody, changes her profile to Elon Musk with the blue checkmark, and then starts posting a bunch of stuff.
	Apparently she got warnings and continued and then got banned.
	Um...
	appreciate the lie.
	That's That's...
	I'm frozen again.
	I'm frozen again.
	Okay, I don't think I'm frozen again.
	Okay, we're back.
	Okay.
	Can't do it.
	I'm going to go crazy.
	Give me one second, people.
	Maybe we're going to live with it.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we're back.
	Suspended after mocking CEO Elon Musk.
	It wasn't.
	And.
	Oh, it's not clear if it's the ribbing or her...
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	She changed her profile to Elon Musk.
	Picture?
	Name?
	But underneath it said, at Kathy Griffin.
	And NBC, or is it CBS?
	Who is it?
	Which is the peacock?
	It's NBC.
	NBC doesn't know if it's the ribbing or the impersonating.
	Let me just see if I can actually find the...
	So he says, going forward...
	All right, whatever.
	I can't find the actual tweet.
	It wasn't clear whether it was permanent or a direct result for mockery.
	It came as Musk announced that accounts that impersonate celebrities and other notables would be prohibited unless they're labeled parody.
	Twitter's policy has always prohibited impersonation, but the immediate action is new.
	These juvenile idiots think that they found the solution to the problem All that they have to do, according to these 1D-level chess-playing buffoons, is say, oh, it's parody.
	I'm going to go from Kathy Griffin, blue checkmark, stand-up comedian, celebrity.
	I'm parodying.
	Look at me, I'm parodying now.
	I'm parodying Elon Musk.
	And I'm going to say parody in my feed.
	All right.
	So first things first, I looked into the rules.
	I thought, when it said, if there's a ban on impersonating, So I initially thought, because I thought I had seen notable parody accounts that had been blue checkmarked, but maybe it's just a, what's the word?
	That effect, the Mandela effect.
	In their terms, it said, if my internet ever wants to let me get to the, parody, commentary, and fan account policy.
	You may not impersonate individuals.
	So I suspect some people thought it would be the impersonation that would be the problem.
	And not a parody account, because in the Twitter verified, it says accounts not, well, this is actually the clarification from Twitter.
	Hold on.
	Help center.
	So certain accounts are not eligible for the blue badge, regardless of satisfying the requirements, account notable acting, including parody.
	Now, when you clicked on that, it then said accounts impersonating would not be allowed.
	And so I thought parody, if it's notable, and everyone knew that mini AOC was parody and not actually mini AOC.
	But it turns out that it's always been that way.
	Thank you.
	But these...
	I'm going to call them.
	I'm going to call them.
	I'm going to call them.
	I'm going to call them.
	I'm going to call them.
	I'm going to call them.
	Now it's a bad camera.
	That's great.
	Okay.
	Now it's a bad camera.
	Oh, God damn it.
	Well...
	Okay, the internet's...
	Is it...
	I mean, I couldn't switch computers.
	Piece of junk.
	Whenever I see the thing freezing, I'll just have to wait for it to come back up.
	Where were we?
	I think I was at the one level.
	Audio messed up, wrong mic.
	What did you do?
	Okay, hold on one second.
	I should be on the good mic.
	Settings, audio, UMC.
	Viva, that sounds good now.
	Okay.
	And someone says chillax.
	I don't chillax when things run properly.
	Is it Boomer Monday?
	It's Boomer Monday.
	Oh, for goodness sakes.
	Okay, chill, no one died.
	I'm good.
	Okay, thank you.
	The 1D level chess that these social media types are playing, they're going to change their accounts to parity with a blue check mark, change their name.
	To Elon Musk.
	Change their avatar to Elon Musk's picture.
	And all's fun and games because it's parody.
	And who else did it?
	Who else did it?
	Oh, this was not the one I wanted to bring up.
	That's Jeremy McKenzie.
	Damn it.
	Hold on one second.
	Where's the...
	No, not new window there.
	Okay, close this.
	Close this.
	What's my problem?
	Present.
	Share screen.
	Oh, I got to go get the...
	I got to go get Ethan Klein's tweet because it's...
	I'm not playing a video that's associated with this tweet, but I'm going to show you the tweet.
	Kathy Griffin decides she's going to go impersonate Elon Musk.
	Apparently gets multiple warnings, then gets her account suspended.
	Then, by the way, goes into her deceased mother's account and starts tweeting at Elon Musk from her deceased mother's account, which itself is also a bannable offense, but set that aside.
	Ethan Klein then also has the great idea of going out and impersonating Elon Musk.
	Because everybody's going to know...
	They followed Ethan Klein for the comedy.
	There's no question about that.
	They followed Ethan Klein for the insight and the comedy.
	But certainly not because it was a parody account.
	You don't follow a blue checkmark.
	Let me rephrase.
	For people who become verified because they're commentators, whatever, to overnight decide now they're parodying.
	As though everybody who follows them followed them for parody and is going to know that when they see a tweet like this, This was the tweet that got him in trouble, at least the last one, when the internet decides to boot up.
	You look at this, and if you don't look down at the handle at H3H3Productions, you see Elon Musk, his picture, and a blue checkmark.
	People are going to say the N-word on Twitter.
	That's a sacrifice I'm willing to accept for the cause of free speech.
	That's Ethan Klein thinking that he's being funny.
	And by the way, then he goes and says, look.
	I clearly specified parody.
	Look what I did to my profile banner.
	If anyone clicks on it afterwards and doesn't get actually tricked by that tweet.
	It's so funny.
	It's so insightful.
	And it's so deep.
	And it's so edgy.
	People are going to say the N-word on Twitter.
	And he's saying it as though it's totally unacceptable.
	But the satire, the parody here is that Elon Musk...
	Is allowing this awful, awful thing to happen, people saying the N-word on Twitter.
	He's allowing it.
	But that's a sacrifice he's willing to make to accept for the cause of free speech.
	Elon Musk is the most evil man on earth because he's going to allow people to say the N-word on Twitter to protect free speech, as though that's what he's doing.
	But that's the idea.
	You know what the ultimate irony behind this is?
	Well, there's a video that I found of Ethan Klein dropping the N-bomb.
	Multiple times during a stream with, I'm absolutely not playing the video now, because it will get, I won't say, it will get in trouble.
	Although I think, for anybody who knows Childish Gambino, he used to do something before Childish Gambino.
	This is the clip.
	Hold on, let me just, I'll keep mute on.
	Oh, you wouldn't be able to hear it anyhow.
	Childish Gambino.
	Before he became Childish Gambino, he used to have this show called Derek Comedy.
	And it was hilarious.
	And there was one episode of Derek Comedy, for anybody who's seen it, you'll know what I'm talking about.
	For anyone who doesn't, go look it up.
	Where there was a spelling bee.
	And they asked, it was Derek, who's Childish Gambino, the black comedian, asking a bunch of white people to spell a word that started with N and ended with T. And the whole joke was, it's the most offensive word in the world.
	They're asking a bunch of white people to spell it, and none of them can bring themselves to do it.
	That's the word that Ethan Klein dropped multiple times in his interview with the guy's name.
	I don't know who the guy is, who apparently uses it.
	But Ethan Klein was just quoting the guy, and he was so happy to keep saying the word over and over again, to keep quoting the guy.
	So Ethan Klein, the one who's accused PewDiePie at one point of having that word roll off his tongue just a little too easily, who goes to Twitter to shame Elon Musk purportedly for allowing the use of the N-word in the name of free speech, himself is the one who historically has used that term under circumstances which were controversial even at the time, from what I understand.
	So these people are idiots.
	I mean, they're idiots.
	Because A, they don't know the rules that they think they're not breaking when they think they're not breaking them.
	B, they are the ones who use the words, who spew the hate, who then try to impute that hate onto others to prove their point.
	They are.
	They are what they warn everyone else about.
	And it's preposterous.
	I don't want to pay for Twitter.
	And look, I'll tell you something.
	There's a certain level of idolatry that goes into the blue checkmark.
	Like, people...
	People, it's idolatry.
	We accept that.
	It's idolatry.
	Juvenile idolatry.
	And so you have to get over that.
	And that's it.
	Okay, now I see our guest is in the background.
	What I'm going to do before we go live.
	I didn't bring him in yet.
	I'm going to end it on YouTube.
	We're going to go to Rumble.
	So let me see if I make sure that I have the link here.
	And we're going to have a discussion.
	We're not having the discussion on Rumble because we can't have it on YouTube.
	We're having it on Rumble because we're gonna actually reward the platform that supports free speech.
	And then I'm gonna put it up on YouTube tomorrow.
	So ending it on YouTube, it's not gonna change anything for anybody except go over to Rumble.
	You have the link, it's in the pinned comment.
	Ending in three, two, one.
	I think we're alone.
	I just wanna make sure that we're live on Rumble.
	So I'm gonna go here and just ask, are we good?
	Okay, let's see here.
	Are we good?
	What is the etymology of K-I-K-E?
	Octopus Knight asks.
	My understanding is that it's German for circle, Kike, and that apparently when Jews came in from other countries, they did not know.
	I'm not sure if this is as much of an urban legend as WAP, which means without papers, but Kike allegedly was Kike a circle because illiterate Jews coming from foreign countries couldn't sign their name, so they just put a little circle for their signature.
	That was what I always understood the urban legend to be, but I don't know if it's true, but maybe.
	Maybe Andrew Gould, journalist, documentarian, can help me out with this.
	Okay, we're bringing him in.
	We're bringing him in now, everybody.
	Let me just make sure we're good.
	Yep, we're all good.
	Booyah!
	Okay, good.
	And if I freeze up again, if I freeze up again, I'm going to give a fair warning.
	Adam, Andrew, three, two, one.
	Hello.
	I feel like I'm some sort of explosive thing.
	You're worried about bringing me in.
	Make sure we get over to Rumble.
	I'm going to swear.
	I'm going to get my willy out and everything.
	Not at all.
	I just want when I clip this and then post the interview in its entirety, there won't be five minutes missing from it.
	We are going to have an interesting discussion.
	I didn't want to let the cat out of the bag as to what you wanted to discuss with your experiences in the UK, but I wanted you to let that out of the bag.
	But before you do that, because I think there's going to be a lot of people who might Not know who you are.
	How is that possible?
	Well, we're in North America, different audiences.
	But no, Andrew, I know who you are.
	We met through Sean, I think, right?
	And probably Eric Hunley over the years as well, a good friend of both of ours.
	Good, very nice person.
	That'll explain it.
	Andrew, tell the world who you are.
	Your credentials are amazing, but I'm going to let you do it.
	Oh, thank you.
	Well, I'm a journalist, a British one, obviously, with the voice that I have.
	I'm not putting it on, but I can do an American one a bit.
	Not really well, though.
	And I speak five languages, and I went around the world doing lots of documentaries and things about cults and extreme ideologies and belief systems and those kinds of things, where I am on screen in the documentaries, sort of confronting weird and strange people.
	And now I have a YouTube channel called On The Edge with...
	Andrew Gold, where I interview sort of people who have been in different cults.
	And I suppose the controversial part of that and where our interests align in particular is that I consider a lot of the woke culture stuff to be a cult.
	And that's where I get the most pushback.
	People go crazy.
	They're agreeing with me on all the other stuff.
	And then with the woke stuff, they're not very happy.
	You know, what can you do?
	Well, so let's get into this a little bit.
	First of all, born and raised in where in England?
	Well, I was born and raised in Watford Hospital.
	Well, I was born there and very, very soon left and then raised around that area, which is northwest London.
	Okay, very cool.
	How many siblings?
	What do your parents do and how did you get into journalizing?
	I got a younger brother.
	I've got a half-sister who's 15. And I got into journalizing.
	What did I do?
	Do you know Louis Theroux?
	I think they say Theroux over in America and Canada and stuff.
	Louis Theroux.
	He's like a famous documentary maker in the UK.
	He's like an apolitical Michael Moore.
	Because obviously Michael Moore is very left-wing and political.
	But Louis Theroux does lots of, again, weird cults and strange things.
	And he wanders around and he's got this sort of wry sense of humour.
	And I grew up watching him and I thought, I could do that.
	And also I grew up in a sort of Jewish house.
	I was told it was secular, but we went on Sundays to, you know, I had to learn Hebrew to read it anyway.
	And I thought, oh, you know what?
	I want to, I don't like this very much.
	I didn't like the religion and all that stuff.
	And I wanted to go and find out about other religions and weird stuff.
	And then I got into journalism through that, I guess.
	Okay, that's very cool.
	So now getting into the cult stuff, how did you decide that you like cult?
	If you have a disdain, or not a disdain, I shouldn't qualify like that, but if you were not enamored with religion.
	And then you get into revealing and exploring cult stuff.
	I presume, to some extent, do you see religion as something of a cult?
	And I say that not to get you in trouble, but do you draw some sort of ideological comparisons?
	Yeah, there are.
	I think that everyone has a different...
	I mean, you were talking about etymologies before.
	Cult is a really difficult etymology.
	No one seems to quite know what it means and what it is.
	There's no consensus.
	And some people say there is, but there just isn't.
	Some people say that Jumba Juice is a cult.
	Some people say that Jim Bunnies, you know, that's part of a cult.
	And I sort of see it as a spectrum out of 10, with 10 being Heaven's Gate and the Jonestown Massacre, those kinds of things.
	That's a 10 out of 10. Scientology is right up there.
	And then most religions, most secular religious people, or a little bit religious people, they're probably somewhere on the spectrum.
	And I think it's okay to have, you know, I follow a soccer football team, you know, and that's probably slightly...
	There are definitely cultish elements to it that are a three or four.
	So it just depends on your religion.
	So what I grew up in was probably a two out of ten or a three out of ten.
	But I always had this disdain for authority.
	And I was in synagogue.
	And I remember being like 13. And these kids my age turning around to me and like shushing me.
	And I remember thinking.
	And then they said.
	They said like, hey, show some respect.
	The rabbi's talking.
	And I thought, well, what's he done to earn my respect?
	You know, so that was my first sort of foray.
	Into like, okay, this is a bit cultish.
	I wonder what else is.
	And I suppose all groups are to an extent, but I just sort of want to get to the where and the how and the why, you know?
	So what are the criteria, actually?
	Let's get into that a little bit to get into what you've been doing.
	But the criteria for a cult.
	Do you want me to look at how woke culture sort of corresponds with some of it?
	Well, yeah, you could go with the woke culture.
	I'm just going to obviously apply it to COVID culture, but I think those are iterations of the same underlying Behavioral conditions.
	But yeah, with the woke culture, where would you qualify it on a scale of 1 to 10?
	And what are the elements that allow you to, you know, not compare, but rather align it with the cult?
	I suppose it depends how far someone is into the woke culture, right?
	Because everyone's there or they're in different levels.
	Some people are 1 out of 10 for how woke they are.
	Some people are 10 out of 10. When the people are fully in and they belong to groups where if you said the wrong thing, you'd be kicked out of that group, which does exist.
	Like super woke people, I'm talking about in academia and university campuses and things like that, where there's that coercive control to stay.
	Coercive control is one of the main features of cults.
	Being fair to run-of-the-mill Judaism or Christianity or whatever it might be, they're not really cults.
	They're quite low down on that spectrum because there's not that kind of coercive control.
	But then it varies by family.
	Can you leave?
	Are you not able to leave?
	Another difference between cults and religion, the main ones, is the various levels to it, hierarchies.
	So if you have to pay more to keep moving up and then you get more secret information given to you, that's very cult-like.
	Again, Christianity, you've got the Bible, that's pretty much it.
	There's no sort of secret extra level that you've got to pay loads of money to get to.
	Scientology, the secret is Lord Zinu, who's an alien overlord.
	He sort of sent spirits, got in a big civil war, the spirits, or went into a volcano in the earth and went into Tom Cruise's body, apparently, and lots of other famous people's bodies.
	But the interesting thing is you don't need the religious side, that sort of Lord Zeno stuff.
	You don't need that.
	And that was proven by Nixxiom, which was another cult last year, which modelled all of its cultishness on Scientology, but didn't have the Lord Zeno stuff.
	In fact, the secret's there.
	Once you get into a certain level, you pay and whatever, and you get to the next level.
	And the secret is you have to now have sex with the guy who made it, Keith Ranieri.
	He was the guy in charge of Nixxiom.
	But they don't have all that religious side.
	One of the most famous sort of definitions of cults comes from a guy called Stephen Hassan, who's quite a big name over, I think, in the States.
	And he's got this thing called the Byte Model.
	And it's behavior control, that's the B. Informations is I, T is thought control, and E is emotional control.
	And if you look at all of those, and I sort of had another look this morning, and I thought, I wonder how it sort of corresponds with woke stuff.
	And it just hits it.
	On the nail on the head.
	So the behavior control part is about regulating an individual's physical reality, which might mean telling someone a man is something that is not, that a biological reality doesn't count.
	It's changing.
	Slogans are a very important part of the behavioural control part.
	So then you've got, you know, defund the police.
	Trans women are women.
	These are also known as thought terminators in cultish speak.
	It basically means like once they've said trans women are women, you can't say anything back.
	There's no argument to be had anymore.
	It's just like that is the thought stopping.
	These are really common in Scientology.
	I can't think off the top of my head or in other cults.
	There are certain things you say.
	That is the truth.
	There is no discussion.
	Also, in behavioural control, it's punishing disobedience, threatening family and friends, forcing individuals.
	This is common in cults, and this is a bit of an awkward one to fit into the woke one, but I think it still does.
	And it's a word that on Rumble I could say, but on YouTube I couldn't say, but it's an R word to do with when you make someone have sex with you.
	And that's very common in cults, forcing individuals.
	To do that to one another and to be, you know, that to each other.
	And I've seen that obviously happen, you know, the way that we talk about the lesbian community.
	You mean rape or do you mean coerce sex?
	Oh no, is it cut out?
	I don't know if people can still see me.
	But I...
	Okay, I think you've cut or I've cut.
	Oh, are you back?
	Am I back?
	You know what?
	If the chat says they can see you...
	When I'm frozen, just keep going on and I'll get in there in a second.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I will.
	Okay, well, I can say words then.
	I'm so used to talking on YouTube, I can't say words.
	That's on YouTube, anyhow, but go for it.
	Yeah.
	Well, Stephen Hassan says, he used the word rape.
	He says rape is often part of, but I mean, it's coercive sex as well they're talking about.
	I know there are differences in law to do with penetration, I suppose.
	But I mean, look, you can see elements of that in the way people are willing certain lesbians to include trans people in their dating apps and things like that.
	There's a suggestion they have to have sex with these people, otherwise they are bigots and they must be taken out of their family.
	I think you may have frozen again, but I'll keep going.
	Separation of families is another one.
	And a huge part of the woke culture is the...
	I think you went for a bit, but I continued talking.
	Is that right?
	Keep going.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I was just saying, you know, the way the lesbian community is being sort of pressured into having sex with trans people.
	If they don't, they are bigots and they are this and that.
	Separation of family is another one.
	Like, part of woke culture is the destruction of the traditional family unit, which is sort of being destroyed.
	So these are really typical things you find, whether it be rape or destroying the family unit.
	These are really typical to the behaviour control aspect of cults.
	Should I go on or are you frozen?
	Yeah.
	I think he's frozen.
	So everyone, I hope you're still watching.
	How much are you getting from it?
	Yeah, I don't think you're getting any of it.
	Anyway, I'll continue.
	Until told otherwise.
	So that's the B from Byte, the behavioral control aspect.
	Then we've got...
	Information, that's the "I" from Byte, which is an attempt to distort information.
	Deliberately withhold.
	Systematically lie.
	Ensure that certain information is not freely accessible to others.
	That's cancel culture.
	And only leadership is allowed to know what and when.
	So these are all things from Stephen Hassan's idea of cults.
	And these are all things that definitely apply to woke culture.
	Encouraging spying is another one which is a historically leftist thing you get from the Soviets.
	And there's a huge...
	Public shaming aspect and wokeness as well.
	And misquoting statements, you know, such as with J.K. Rowling and all that.
	So there's that idea of sins and no forgiveness and all that stuff that we get from woke culture.
	I can't actually see other people's comments.
	Are people still commenting?
	Can you hear me now?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I can hear everything perfectly.
	Chad can hear and see everything that you're doing perfectly.
	So fantastic.
	And I think I'm back now.
	The satellites have realigned.
	So it's definitely something.
	I'll blame the weather.
	So this is all fascinating.
	What I find, you know, the most interesting one that I've noticed recently in the trans community debate is it's not compulsion, but it's the coercion or the shaming of traditional lesbians to not be...
	The word is TERFs, right?
	Trans...
	What does that stand for?
	Exclusionary radical feminists.
	And to shame traditional gays and lesbians into feeling compelled to do that which...
	It's obviously against their very nature based on what they consider themselves.
	That I found mind-blowing, flabbergasting.
	Now, have you done documentaries on these particular issues that have gotten you into trouble?
	No way, man.
	It just wouldn't have been possible.
	So the documentaries I was doing, this was for the BBC and HBO and stuff like that, so I would never have been able to do those kinds of topics.
	I mean, we'll talk about it in a bit.
	I guess I explained to you about the reasons I can't make documentaries anymore for British TV channels.
	But even when I was making them, the idea of being able to do something about the culture wars and to not side on sort of the woke side, that just would have been impossible.
	So, yeah, no, I haven't been able to do it.
	I mean, all the stuff on woke culture I've been able to do since as my own independent stuff.
	I mean, it's the same as you.
	And, you know, if you wanted to go to talk to, you know, the BBC.
	Make that kind of thing.
	Not in a million years.
	way and now so i mean that might be the uh Internet's not that good.
	Viva.
	Hold on.
	I've got another idea.
	Have you got a wire?
	You know what I've got?
	I've got a freaking tin can.
	It seems to be the computer.
	It's gone again.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think people can still see me anyway, so I'll just say stuff.
	I don't want to start saying stuff because then Viva might come back at any second and then I'm just saying stuff.
	How much did you fork over to get verified?
	That's what someone's asked.
	I got verified for some reason.
	But it was free.
	I have to pay $8 a month now.
	Which is no good.
	But we'll talk about that, I suppose.
	First time on Rumble.
	I think he's changing his computer.
	Okay, Andrew.
	Yes.
	Give me one second.
	I'm going to close this down.
	We should stay good.
	Okay.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I'm sorry.
	First of all, I'm going to have a bad camera.
	I'm going to get my good mic.
	Give me one second.
	Okay.
	Your camera looks fine, to be honest.
	It doesn't look bad.
	It's a disgusting, greasy camera, but I know my audio is going to be terrible, so hold on just one second.
	Okay.
	Yeah, slightly echoey.
	That annoying.
	Annoying like it's nobody's business.
	Well, you know, people are happy anyway, aren't they?
	Watching us?
	Let's see.
	Okay.
	Good audio?
	Is that better, Andrew?
	You sound fantastic.
	My goodness.
	What are my headphones on?
	Oh, lordy, lordy, lordy.
	Okay.
	My question was, Talking about the BBC, what you could and could not do for them.
	And this might be the good segue.
	What was your experience like working for the BBC?
	Is it as bad as everybody thinks?
	And internally, do people approve or disapprove of how bad everybody thinks it is and it might be in reality?
	Okay, so I worked as a freelancer, I should say.
	So I wasn't in the office getting in an office details and gossip from the people.
	What I could say is whenever I went in there and spoke to people, you've got two types of people, I think, which is always probably the same at most of these kinds of places.
	You've got the sort of people who it's just their job and they don't care.
	They don't really care about the culture wars.
	You can tell they're not passionate either way.
	They're just like, whatever won't get me fired.
	That's probably most people.
	And that's been my experience in journalism everywhere I've been.
	Any newspaper, we like to sometimes think of all these people having an agenda.
	Really, it's like the people at the top have an agenda, and all the journalists just want a job.
	Because you start with all these ideals.
	I'm going to get into TV and documentaries and newspapers, and then you just can't find work.
	And then you get work, and you're just so happy to have work, you don't care.
	Then there is probably a small percentage of people who are very outwardly and obviously woke.
	They tend to be quite young, probably more likely to be female.
	I'm talking anecdotally here.
	And they look at you like you are a piece of shit on their shoe if you make so much as a suggestion, one way or the other.
	I also go around, I give people talks nowadays in offices about journalism or about being objective in journalism and also about growing YouTube channels or my audio podcasts and stuff like that.
	And even there, I'm so careful and the managers will tell me beforehand, like, make sure...
	You know, not to make certain jokes.
	Make sure you don't, you know, I'm very conscious of on my channel not mentioning the woke stuff.
	I have to not mention that.
	And people do ask questions that are just so annoying.
	Just about, well, what about your integrity and stuff like that?
	And you're like, oh, just, well, you keep your integrity and I'll teach the rest of these guys how to grow a podcast.
	All right?
	So there is that.
	You saw the scandal, what was it, the Podfest, where they apologize for the presence of Ben Shapiro because his mere presence offends people.
	I say this in the flattering way.
	Have you become unemployable because you could never ever function within that type of environment anymore for the rest of your life?
	Yeah, well, I was utterly unemployable from the start, I guess, because I think I'm similar to you in that sense.
	You just want to say what you want to say, and you want to talk to people who are being honest with you instead of this culture of fear.
	That Ben Shapiro thing was insane, and I was going to ask you, I mean...
	Is there anything more defamatory than at a podcast event?
	It's the biggest podcast event in the States, I think in the world.
	That's Ben Shapiro's profession.
	So is there anything more defamatory than publicly suggesting that his very presence is harmful?
	I wouldn't call it defamatory.
	It's just idiotic.
	But, Angela, my transition over the course of YouTube is, you know, in 2016, I didn't want to share my opinion, and it wasn't because I didn't have any.
	In 2018, I didn't want to share my opinion.
	I just wanted to, you know...
	Break down the law.
	Just talk about it.
	Be objective.
	And then at some point you realize being objective might mean explaining both sides, but not giving equal credence to both sides.
	And then I was just sort of forced into...
	I was compelled into expressing my thoughts because the world went batshit crazy at an exponential rate.
	And when Jordan Peterson first started calling up this Bill C-16, which added gender identity to the criminal code, he says it's going to lead to forced, compelled speech.
	And I'm like, okay, no, that's exaggerated.
	In theory, you know, whatever.
	And then you see it happen in real life, and then you realize, well, you can avoid politics, but politics can't avoid you.
	But now there's no going back, nor do I want to go back.
	Yeah, I think there's an interesting thing though as well that I subscribe to about status or status, as you guys would say, but like how you and why we do things and confirmation biases.
	I'm fascinated by these things.
	And it looks like we do things for three reasons.
	This was a theory I learned from a journalist called Will Storr.
	There are three types of status.
	One is dominance.
	So if you were in a tribe...
	Growing up, you know, if you were the dominant alpha male, you'd get more of the food.
	Another is success.
	If you were the most successful person, so you built the wheel, you made the fire, all these things, people would give you their food and whatever else.
	But if you weren't particularly successful and you're not particularly dominant, you only had one other route, and that was virtue.
	The only other way for you to get food.
	But you didn't have to be virtuous.
	You didn't actually have to help people.
	You just needed other people to think that you were helping them.
	And I love that as an explanation for virtue signalling and why leftists have always done that.
	It doesn't mean that they're all doing so with malignant intent.
	I didn't want to say anything.
	We were being a bit scared, didn't want to speak up.
	A lot of that was because we were playing a status game or status game with our peers and we didn't want to let them down or we didn't want to be cast out or shunned, which, again, is very culty terminology.
	But once you make that decision and you're like, out.
	Well, those people no longer matter to you because you think they're a bunch of idiots.
	So they're not important for status anymore.
	And suddenly the status...
	Well, who's important for status?
	Other people I respect.
	So other people who are sort of taking, you know, arms against the woke stuff.
	So now we might have confirmation bias more towards anti-woke stuff.
	So it's a constant game of trying to pull myself back in and go, oh God, was I wrong about that?
	No, that's good.
	I mean, that's called introspection and just making sure that you're not...
	Edgy for the sake of edgy or edgy for the sake of retaining relevance or acquiring relevance.
	It's not a useless element of a character.
	In 2016, I wasn't afraid of what people would think.
	I was still a practicing lawyer.
	I didn't want judges knowing I was waxing my leg with a drone.
	And then I sort of got over that hump.
	And it's just life is about the Wittgensteinian's ladder of experience.
	But I want to hear this now.
	Your life experience in the UK, within the BBC, and call it the woke stuff, but the discussion as to whether or not there is a war on the white male.
	And that has become sort of the next, not talking point, but the next phenomenon that people were complaining about at the time.
	People were demonized for complaining about it.
	And the question is whether or not it's a real phenomenon and whether or not it's going to become Oh.
	My experience with that, well that started, I guess I was about 23, and I started making documentaries.
	And I was in Argentina, I was living in Argentina for some time, and I made it for, I made stuff for Fusion, which was part of Univision, and then it got sold to HBO, whatever.
	Then I went back to the UK, got an agent who was very impressed by all the stuff I'd done, all these videos and documentaries where I'm interviewing different weird and strange people.
	And she set me up with production companies all around the UK and talking about hundreds over a period of about six or seven years.
	And I'm not exaggerating when I say every single meeting that I had, they would bring up the fact that they will not be able to allow me to be on screen.
	So I went and made this film about exorcism anyway because I wanted to make...
	Go on.
	Stop.
	Why?
	Ah, because, I should explain that part, because I am a white man.
	So, yeah, and the thing is, when you first hear that, the first time, and you're young, you're 23, right?
	So you're just like, okay, well, there'll be more times.
	Just keep going, just keep going, because it's very ambitious and determined.
	And I was never woke, but I was more accepting of those kinds of, you know, I didn't know the stats.
	I didn't know that actually white people are underrepresented, white men in particular, on TV screens.
	I didn't know that at the time.
	So I was just like, okay, well, maybe we have had it good, even if individually I hadn't necessarily.
	Let me pause you there again.
	They say we can't really have you on screen.
	Do they overtly say it's...
	And do they say it in a manner that indicates they're embarrassed about it, like we have to have?
	Or do they say we're not having it because this is the way it works, sort of like understand it and we're proud of it?
	I'd say about 75% were embarrassed and 25% were just like, this is a matter of fact.
	One or two, after five, six years, when I started to get this hurt, and I started trying anything, and I couldn't get work.
	I just couldn't get any kind of work, really, in that industry.
	And you can say, okay, but I could have just become, I don't know what.
	What are your credentials?
	Are they saying you're too young, you don't have a university degree, or you're not?
	Adequately credentialed or do you have adequate credentials?
	On paper.
	I got an English literature degree, a 2.1 we call it, which is like, I don't know what that is in the American language, but it was like a, not the highest possible thing, but the next thing down.
	It's a good solid thing to have.
	And a journalism qualification.
	After that, and another degree I'd done in France as a French literature kind of thing.
	So credentials there, but I'm not going to suddenly be like, okay, well, I can't do this.
	I'm going to be a lawyer now because I'll have to go back to school.
	And what do you do as a journalist?
	You're a journalist.
	What I think was expected of me was to just go behind.
	You know, like, you can still be a journalist, but you've got to not show your face.
	You've got to be in the background.
	And that's what was said to me.
	It was like, well, take your ideas.
	And these were ideas that I put years of research into, of like, you know, Bolivians who make people stand in anthills if they commit adultery.
	Just like weird, strange things around the world.
	They were like, we really want the ideas and the access.
	Can you put us in touch?
	And you're going to have to be behind the camera, and we're going to put somebody who is a minority in front of the camera.
	And I was just so offended, as any journalist would be, by that notion of like, well, I've done all the work, I've done the whole thing, and now you want me...
	And also how offensive and patronizing to just somebody from a minority background.
	Well, that's what I was going to get.
	On the one hand, it would lend the idea that people are asking in the chat, you're Jewish, born Jewish, obviously not religious, make what you want with that chat.
	The other question was, how old are you?
	Before I ask...
	33. No, you're just a baby.
	33. So, the idea that the people on screen, you have to fill quotas, or at least whatever their perceived quotas are, but then you get the white Jewish man behind the scenes writing it, because that's...
	It's all insulting.
	It's all insulting to see people as identities and races and religions and not humans.
	The pay, set aside that, would you get paid more behind the screen, or would it be...
	Would you be the...
	Okay.
	Less.
	No, because I wouldn't be, you wouldn't be the, the idea is you, it's quite a British thing really to do these sort of journals.
	I mean, I know you have that in America as well, but particularly in Britain, we have, you know, presenters, the person on screen leading the journalism to sort of go and battle these weird, strange people around the world.
	So you'd become a name.
	The series would be named after you, you know, the whole thing would revolve around you.
	And that's how, you know, my exorcism film I made, I had to go and make it myself because they just wouldn't let me be the guy on screen.
	Made it myself.
	We took it to festivals.
	The BBC took it, but they took it so reluctantly, they refused to pay.
	They basically paid us the fees that it would cost that we needed to spend on lawyers to just check the documentary.
	So we didn't make, me and my friend David, it was just the two of us, didn't make.
	One cent from that.
	And then afterwards, I sort of went and had meetings with the BBC thinking maybe things have changed because I went and made this film by myself, you know?
	That's not a usual thing.
	I don't mean to gloat.
	And I hate...
	I resent that I'm in a position where I have to now sort of big myself up and gloat because that shouldn't have had to happen.
	But it's very unusual to go and make just you and a friend go and make a documentary that goes and wins awards.
	It placed in the BBC's best of the year list.
	People were loving it.
	And then I go and...
	Go into the office, BBC Three, sit with them, and I'm faced with, there was like one guy who was in charge of like the channel or whatever, and then there were three young women.
	Fresh out of university, I think.
	Younger than me at the time.
	I was about 28. They're like 23, 24. And they looked at me like I was dirt.
	And I just thought, this is what I mean.
	I thought, I've gone and done this.
	I've learned languages to do it.
	I've done so much.
	And you guys are just, you've been at university.
	You've done nothing.
	But they were just these sort of middle class.
	And they just, yeah, I was dirt to them because I was a white man.
	And they were like, what else you got kind of thing.
	And the suggestion was always, well, we do need to focus on diversity.
	They wouldn't say it in the BBC quite as flagrantly as every production company did.
	Whereas Vice Media did say, you're too old.
	You're a bit old for it.
	Again, they wouldn't say what it really was.
	But they would just say, you're a bit old for us.
	We have younger presenters normally.
	I was 27. It's not a self-fulfilling prophecy.
	It might be a self-fulfilling prophecy or a vicious circle.
	But the stereotype is that...
	White men are angry, and then you have an experience like this, and then they say, well, don't be angry, and that's the other element.
	So we have all of these criteria.
	You should be understanding.
	It's for the greater good, whatever.
	What are the demographics in the UK, if you break it down, black, white, religion-wise?
	Do you know them offhand?
	I've got it.
	I've got it somewhere.
	Yes.
	National population of...
	So we've got black, Asian, and minority ethnic.
	We call it BAME.
	B-A-M-E.
	Black, Asian.
	And minority ethnic.
	Doesn't include Jews for some reason, but it's black, Asian and minority.
	That's how people talk about it in the UK.
	But as with any of these names that we come up with, I know that the national population...
	Is 12.8% of black, Asian, and minority ethnic people.
	Which means the rest are Caucasian.
	Yes.
	So the US is objectively more diverse than that, and Canada is objectively, I think it's much less diverse than that.
	Interesting.
	Black in Canada, I think it's 3%, but I haven't looked in a while.
	It's about the same in the UK, I think.
	Most of our BAME community will probably be from South Asia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh.
	Now, if you include Asian in there, is there any anti- or pro-Asian discrimination in the UK?
	In the States, one of the Supreme Court decisions coming up now, or that's gone to the Supreme Court, is anti-Asian discrimination in admissions to Harvard.
	So as in they favor other minorities not treating the Asian minority equally.
	So Asians sort of get like the Caucasian treatment in America.
	Is that the same in the UK?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, firstly, I should just say that Asians in the UK means a different thing to Asians in America and Canada, because there it means you're talking about people from, I don't even know where, maybe Chinese heritage or something.
	And in the UK, we're talking about India and Pakistan and Bangladesh.
	When we say Asian, that's what we mean, just because of the demographics and the amount of people.
	But there is a similar thing, because there's that same stereotype of sort of the very studious person of Indian heritage.
	I know that.
	I think there probably is that.
	I think that does probably exist.
	There's a really interesting thing about the, there was a demographics of free schools, like the cheapest schools, not just like state schools, but like the cheapest, the poorest of the poorest schools.
	And among them, you can see which students do the best and which go on to secondary education and are encouraged to do well and all those kinds of things.
	And sort of people from Indian origin and Pakistani are right at the top, same as Chinese.
	But so are black African.
	People are children.
	They do really, really, like black from Africa, that is.
	And then you go right down the list and children from just white English backgrounds do really badly, really, really badly in the poorest parts of the UK.
	And even worse than them, or about the same as them, are black children from Caribbean backgrounds do really, really badly.
	Which suggests that there's a lot more, you know, the suggestion usually is, I don't know if you know it offhand, but the depth of the ancestry, like how far back...
	Black Africans go versus Black Caribbeans in the UK.
	Is one a newer immigrant to the country than the other?
	Demographically?
	I don't actually know, but that's possibly true.
	And it might be that one came over with less bother than the other.
	I don't know entirely.
	But it's a really good point to make because, you know, my family came over to the UK in like 1901 or something like that from various poor countries in Eastern Europe.
	And they lived in abject poverty.
	You know, the stories I hear and it's like 15 siblings in one room, people losing fingers while working in factories and that kind of thing.
	And with each generation, it doesn't always go in a progressive societal, you know, that's just not life.
	And some people got even poorer in the family and others did well.
	And that's how it is.
	And now I'm like fourth or fifth generation.
	So by now, my dad did all right in the 90s, you know.
	It's fascinating.
	Now, your podcast, you mentioned you can't talk about or you try to avoid the more sensitive discussion.
	What do you deal with on your podcast?
	So the podcast, yeah, I mean, I'll do one week.
	It'll be somebody who was in the Westboro Baptist Church or Scientology or whatever.
	But then I'll have Andrew Doyle, who's Titania McGrath on Twitter.
	People might know, you know, the fake thing.
	Yeah, he's been on a couple of times.
	Hold on one second.
	Tatia McGrath is a man?
	Yeah.
	Oh, son of a beast.
	I knew it was a parody account.
	I knew it was satire.
	I'm going to go watch that one.
	That's fascinating.
	That's very interesting.
	He's great.
	You do one a week?
	Yeah, three a week.
	Three a week now.
	I'm just like, bam, really on it.
	It was one a week initially.
	And Andrew Doyle, yeah, you should talk to him, man.
	He should come on your show or you should go on his.
	He's got a TV show.
	He's on, you know, TV networks.
	So I've been on his and then he's been on mine a couple of times.
	And he's actually, he's a gay man who just hates the whole...
	Woke stuff.
	So yeah, Titania McGrath.
	So yeah, it'll be people like that.
	John McWater and things like that.
	And I have to be careful because people go crazy and they unsubscribe in masses.
	They're like, I'm here for the Scientology stuff, but how dare you say that a man is a man and a woman is a woman or whatever.
	And I should say as well, yeah, I mean, I thought getting into...
	Indie podcasting would get away from all that stuff.
	At least I can get away from that inclusivity stuff on TV.
	Which, by the way, I didn't actually say the statistics.
	So it's 13% minorities in the UK.
	But on screen, in terms of people who are on the screen on TV that you see, they make up 21%.
	So they're actually doubly overrepresented people from minority backgrounds, whereas white men I don't have that right here, but I know that they are underrepresented.
	LGBT people are almost three times overrepresented on TV screens.
	The reason this is so frustrating is because while this was happening to me, I wanted to say this to people, like, oh, this is happening, and people denied it.
	They were like, of course that's not happening.
	Everyone's a white man on TV.
	And the stats, which is from something called Diamond Diversity, which is known for it's a neutral source that TV channels use themselves show that that's not the case at all.
	And by the way, the other thing that's always said about TV and film and stuff in the States, Canada, UK, wherever it might be, is that women, there's not enough female directors.
	Why aren't there female directors?
	Should be more female directors and all this stuff in this pursuit of equity, this pursuit of everything has to be equal, this obsessive-compulsive disorder that everyone has for why isn't everything exactly the same?
	But what I know from looking at these UK statistics on TV is that is true.
	It's like 35% are female of directors on TV, but I think it's like 80% are showrunners and executive producers.
	So the people who actually run the show, who have much higher jobs than being directors, are mostly women.
	And nobody talks about it.
	No one cares.
	Anyway, getting into podcasting...
	You still have to win the audio version of my YouTube channel.
	I've got to try and win awards, things like that.
	The biggest awards ceremony in the UK is the British Podcast Awards.
	And if you win that, anyone who wins that, you fly off, because the marketing is incredible.
	And I sort of put my name down quite a few times and never got it.
	And then I had a look at the stipulations and stuff properly, and I regretted even signing up, because it cost me like $100, $200 to keep...
	Putting my nomination in or whatever.
	And they judge two-thirds based on not on how good your podcast is, but on whether you give value and diversity.
	That's 67%.
	Of the vote for winning a podcast or for being nominated.
	And if you saw the lists of the nominees, every single nominee, almost every single one, has got some sort of identity in the title.
	Like, you know, a gay and a non-gay, Chinese chippy girl, We Are Black Journos.
	That's the name of all the nominees.
	And it's just gone berserk.
	Let me show you something so I can grab it.
	Hold on, I don't want to pull my camera down.
	What's he got?
	Andrew, I unequivocally do not care for awards.
	Once upon a time, this was right...
	I'm looking at the right camera.
	Right when the channel was just on the cusp of law to politics, I submitted for a...
	This is not a Shorty Award.
	This is a Shorty Award for social good.
	So Shorty Awards are like the big YouTube...
	It's the Oscars of the internet.
	They started a new thing in their first year called Shorty Award for Social Good.
	If your channel was dedicated to increasing social good, and at the time it was family cooking stuff, but it was law of the most neutral, you know, educative.
	I still think it's educational, but it had no opinion.
	And I submitted.
	And they made the mistake of giving me the award the first time.
	So never again.
	Like, I've submitted just to see.
	I submitted our podcast with Robert Barnes.
	I know that it will never again...
	I'm toxic to a great many entities that I don't care about, care for whatsoever, and I don't judge them.
	It's a bizarre world where other than calling our Prime Minister a psychopath and sometimes edgy but angry on Twitter, it's bizarre that some people like the Ethan Clines and that side who have the most toxic things imaginable are the darlings.
	The us, and you're like, I think maybe more center than me in terms of discourse.
	We're blacklisted.
	We're blacklisted.
	Where do you think it goes?
	Does it turn around?
	Do we become the cool people at some point in time?
	I don't know.
	You know what's really frustrating as well?
	I caught the bit before you were talking about it.
	I think it was Ethan Klein talking about the N-word being on Twitter and stuff.
	If I think about the most frustrating thing of the whole woke thing, the whole culture wars, it's that it has allowed people like that to pose as though they're rebelling.
	Like, these great rebels.
	Because being a rebel is the cool thing.
	That's always been the cool thing.
	And rebel without a cause, James Dean.
	But going forward, you know, so it meant that when sort of culture was a little bit more to the right, I'm talking about the 60s and 70s and 80s, when it was sort of more about religion and traditional values and things on TV.
	People rebelled against that, and they did become rebels by pointing that out.
	I would like to think that you and I now, because the culture wars on the TV and stuff like that and the mainstream media have been won so resolutely by the left that you can't even say certain things lest you be cut off.
	I'd like to think we're hopefully the rebels.
	It does seem to go back and forward.
	So hopefully it will in 30 years.
	I guess it gets so absurd that being normal becomes the rebel.
	Never in a million years would I have ever thought we would have to have a serious discussion as to the biological differences between biological males and biological females.
	It's not a serious discussion.
	But then it goes from not only becoming a seriously absurd discussion, you can't even state the biological obvious.
	And that's when you say, I've got kids, I've got two girls, and I'm not going to sit here and watch the world burn.
	And if it becomes controversial to say there are fundamental biological differences between the sexes, such that there should be certain restrictions set up in life, then that's it.
	I guess I'll be toxic, controversial, and whatever.
	But I can't believe it's gotten to this point.
	And it gets the people who are reluctant, like myself...
	It compels us to speak up and then hopefully that changes the tide.
	But there were people that were much more proactive much earlier on when it was much more risky.
	I was just always lucky that I never had a real job in the sense that even as an independent lawyer, I could tell people to fuck off and I don't care.
	At a big firm, I don't know what life would have been like if I had stayed at a big firm.
	You'd have been out, man.
	You'd have been out.
	You just hit on something that I think is like...
	Probably the cultiest, if I think of being into the cults and stuff, the cultiest aspect of the whole woke thing does lie around the gender discussion, I think.
	Because it's where you get...
	It's also the same with conspiracy theories.
	I just interviewed Michael Shermer, who talks about conspiracy theories, and he's also quite upset by a lot of the woke culture stuff.
	And he said that people who believe in one conspiracy theory are likely to believe in ones that contradict the main one.
	So people who believe we've never been to the moon and that was faked are also more likely to believe that we've built superstructures on the other side of the moon that are being held secret by the CIA and stuff, right?
	They'll believe both those things, which is incredible.
	And with regards to the trans discussion, what we've been being told...
	By the likes of Judith Butler, these are like the leading feminists and stuff.
	And I remember studying this at university.
	We had to study the fact that men and women are exactly, exactly the same.
	They are the same thing, but they've been socialized differently.
	Now, obviously, we know that's not true.
	But we had to sort of pretend at university that that was true.
	Men and women are exactly the same.
	In the same breath, we are told by the likes of Judith Butler, because she says both these things, that men and women are so different.
	That if one person is born in one body and identifies as a thing from the other body, that it will make them kill themselves.
	That's how different it is.
	So how can both of those things be true?
	We're exactly the same men and women, so there shouldn't be any differences in who gets what job.
	Any differences in job must be sexism, right?
	But we're also so different.
	If you identify as one and you're the other, it can make you kill yourself.
	It doesn't work, and that is the cultiest part of woke culture.
	I don't know if it's called cognitive dissonance or just trying to fit the square peg into the circle.
	The idea, gender is a social construct, and yet someone needs to physically transform their body.
	The other bottom line is, as far as what adults do, I don't think anybody cares about it.
	It's the ever-increasing slippery slope pushing the envelope where it goes from Call me as an adult a pronoun that is not biologically accurate versus now we're pushing it to gender-affirming therapy, gender-affirming care for kids under the guise of protecting children.
	That sentiment on gender-affirming health care for kids in the UK, is that as big of a deal as it is in the States?
	Yeah, well, do you know about the Tavistock Clinic that got shut down?
	I think it's a civil action case of...
	It's called the Tavistock Gender Clinic and it recently got shut down and I think it's a thousand former patients who were children who mistakenly thought they were trans are now suing a class action against Tavistock.
	That's what is going to change the tide here.
	I've been saying this for a while.
	Once children who have gone through this become majors, sue the doctors, sue their parents.
	Parents and doctors will think twice about it.
	For the time being, they're making way too much money to even think about it.
	So it's not the industry in the UK that it is in the States.
	Probably not to that extent, but that clinic was big.
	And we have the same thing where...
	Because the States, as you know, coming from Canada initially, the States is just such a big country with so much diversity.
	So you always just find...
	A bigger version of whatever is happening in the UK or Canada is happening in the US.
	That's no good or bad thing.
	It's just a thing.
	And it's what makes America beautiful as well, to go and visit.
	You're just going like, whoa, whoa.
	And so if there is an issue with gender stuff, that's going to be even bigger in the States.
	A lot of it starts in the States as well.
	Just like stuff starts in academia, filters down.
	Stuff starts in the States.
	Stuff like Black Lives Matter started in the States.
	We've got like seven black people in the UK, right?
	And yet we're going around doing all the things that the States did.
	I'm going to...
	Soccer, football matches, and everybody's got Black Lives Matter on.
	And I'm offended by it because I know Black Lives Matter is, in many senses, an anti-Semitic organisation.
	I know it's a Marxist organisation.
	I've got to watch my soccer team play with that.
	And the gender thing as well came from...
	I think the States, really.
	And there's a writer called Graham Linehan, who's Irish, and he wrote a sitcom called Father Ted.
	And I think he might have done The IT Crowd.
	I'm not sure.
	But it's like these big sort of British-Irish sitcoms that people like.
	And he came down really heavy against the gender ideology and was just banned from...
	Everything.
	Like, nobody could even talk of him, let alone to him.
	And now, since this Tavistock thing happened, suddenly he's sort of being allowed back slowly onto certain shows.
	And it's like, well, where were you guys when he was warning about what was happening to children, you know?
	Yeah, I just read some of the chat there.
	It seems the chat knows what Tavistock is, but...
	Okay, I won't read some of those out loud.
	That's fascinating.
	Well, and so now...
	You're following the Elon Musk blue checkmark scandal.
	What's your take?
	Right, right.
	Well, so my first thought is just this, you know.
	Every first thought I have is a selfish one, right?
	And I think anyone who doesn't recognize that their first thought is selfish is probably even more selfish, right?
	Because we're humans and we're selfish, whatever.
	So my first thought is like, oh man, like I had my blue tick and it sort of made me stand out compared to other people.
	It let me speak to other people so I could get them on my show and all that stuff.
	And now this is becoming less about, you know, and it was always a semi-terrible thing.
	It wasn't fair because there's loads of people who deserve the blue...
	Check more than us, maybe, who didn't have him.
	But I don't know what the answer to that is.
	How do you verify?
	Maybe you just verify everyone, really.
	Let's be honest, right?
	On Twitter, shouldn't everyone just have to give their passport or whatever it is so they can't pretend to impersonate anyone?
	Go on.
	Yeah, but no one's going to put up with that.
	I mean, even on Rumble, people don't like the fact that you have to have an actual email address and give a...
	I don't know if they have to give a telephone number.
	People don't like that.
	They want anonymity.
	I get that.
	And then they don't, you know...
	But the blue check mark...
	Well, first of all, I like the idea that your first thought is always a selfish one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Even if it's not.
	Even if it's not, it is.
	Because it makes me feel good.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Like, I gave to charity.
	Well, I felt great about that.
	Come on, I'm such a great guy.
	You know?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's an interesting...
	I mean, that has to be...
	What's the guy there, Laszlo's Hierarchy of Needs?
	I think so.
	Yeah, you know my favorite people to interview ever?
	Psychopaths.
	Every now and then I get psychopaths on the show who say, they're like, hey, I'm a psychopath, right?
	They often don't show their face, but they're like, I'm a psychopath, this is what it's like to be a psychopath.
	I love it, because they don't have to pretend.
	You know I talked about the three types of status, dominance, success, and virtue.
	They don't have to pretend that they're virtue.
	They don't have to compete.
	So we can have a really open and honest discussion about human selfishness and self-interest, and that's...
	For me, a really interesting discussion to have when we can just be honest and let down, let go of our fake trying to compete with each other for virtue, you know?
	Yeah, but when you interview a psychopath, self-diagnosed or diagnosed or self-diagnosed?
	Diagnosed.
	Well, the one who showed his face is Dr. James Fallon, not Jimmy Fallon, but I'm not counting him out as one of them.
	But Dr. James Fallon, he's a neuroscientist.
	And you might have heard this story because it went around a bit.
	He's a neuroscientist and his specialty was always psychopaths.
	And he was looking at his family's brain scans because he was afraid that his wife might have dementia.
	So he got like 30 brain scans from all of his family together to look for signs of dementia or whatever.
	And when you do that, you do it blind.
	So he took off all the names off of the scans.
	And so he looked around and he said, hang on, this one brain, whoever that is, that's a psychopath.
	Because you can see from the brain.
	Hints.
	There were hints as to somebody.
	And he said, this person, we need to find out who that is.
	Got to get them off the street.
	And so he asked his team, who is this person that's been in with my family?
	And they said, that's you.
	And he was like, oh.
	And he realized then that he was a psychopath.
	That's okay.
	I'm curious about that.
	I'm going to look into it because I would have imagined he would have experienced other indications in life.
	I know what I think of when I think of psychopaths, but I did listen to the psychopath test by John Ronson.
	John Ronson.
	A friend of mine.
	I was just with him in New York.
	Well, see, here's the thing.
	I would love to have John Ronson on the channel, but I think I would be too toxic for John Ronson.
	Or at least too far right that he would not want to fraternize.
	I think he would.
	John's very careful.
	And John has a lot to lose in a way that you and I don't.
	That's all I'd say about that.
	And not, you know, that sounds like I'm sort of winking at you that he secretly has all these right wing thoughts.
	He doesn't.
	He's very much like me, but he's very like, oh, I don't know.
	But he certainly wouldn't meet you and judge your views as wrong.
	I might also be overplaying or overblowing what other people might think of me, but I know there's a lot of people who would not come on just by virtue of the fact of some of the people I've had on.
	Alex Jones.
	That's the first one that comes to mind.
	They'd say, no, it's one degree of separation and my side is very judgmental.
	No, it's a very weird thing.
	No one on the right, whatever they call the far right, thinks this way.
	I've had Cernovich on.
	People on the left will say, well, why'd you have him on?
	But nobody on the right says, why did you have...
	Because I think I've got the right...
	And I've had the same thing because I just went on Tim Paul, right?
	So I just literally flew out to America to go on Tim Paul's podcast and he's like as toxic as it can get.
	But I had the best like...
	Just the most amazing time.
	And then funnily enough, while I was there, I went on James Altucher's podcast.
	And James Altucher was just then in a storm online because he had just interviewed Andrew Tate.
	So we just got to talk about all these things.
	Like, how mad is it?
	Right, so that thing again, I know I obsess about this a little bit, about the whole virtue and the status thing, right?
	Back in the 60s or 70s, the leading status was to be right-wing, fairly right, conservative.
	I'm talking about traditional family, blah, blah, blah.
	Imagine back then, those people might have been a bit wary of losing their position at the top by associating themselves with somebody who was a bit of a communist.
	We know that.
	Was it McCarthy?
	Nowadays, it's the opposite.
	If you're on TV, you're doing all the stuff, then you have to associate with that other side.
	You have more to lose.
	So those guys on the left have got a lot to lose by associating themselves with us.
	That's what it is.
	I can safely say...
	I shouldn't say this is like jinxing it, but I understand how that works.
	Publishers are going to...
	Oh, sorry, we can't deal with your next book because you danced with the wrong person at the high school prom.
	And it's a funny thing.
	Tim Pool is still, I consider him center, if not left of center.
	But maybe that's because I consider myself different than Tim.
	Reasonable.
	But yeah, you went on Tim Pool.
	You danced with the devil at midnight.
	How was that experience?
	You flew out for an overnight or then back or you stayed for a couple of days?
	I stayed for like six days.
	So I had a couple of days in...
	I probably shouldn't say where he is because obviously he gets swatted all the time.
	I think people know, but yeah, don't worry.
	Do people know?
	I think they know it's in the tri-state area, whatever.
	Okay, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, fine.
	Well, that's where it was.
	And then, uh, I've confirmed it!
	No, so, um, yeah, so, him, and then I went to New York to hang out with John Ronson and to do all sorts of things and see where John Lennon was shot.
	And then, um, and then I went to Georgia, which is where James Altucher, I don't know if you know him, but he's also, he's, you know, similar sort of centrist, center, right, left, whatever, interviews, whoever, kind of person, um, to go on his podcast, stayed the night of his.
	And, man, firstly, just being in America is amazing.
	And I imagine there's some similarities in Canada as well.
	Just everything's so big, man.
	It's big cars, big food.
	Everyone's giving me all the food.
	Food's amazing.
	I hate Italian food.
	Went to Italy, rubbish, right?
	France is good.
	Italy, bad food.
	Everyone says it's good.
	America, amazing food.
	You went to an Olive Garden.
	You had a feast like the Oath Keepers guy.
	If you didn't go to the Olive Garden, you missed the experience.
	I didn't.
	Everything in America is massive.
	The cities require cars.
	Cars are massive.
	I lived in France.
	I spent a lot of time in California for various reasons, but not on the East Coast.
	And that's more like Britain.
	Except big.
	So I think that's why that had that impression on me.
	But also the big houses and the big things.
	So when you drive up to Tim Pool's thing, it's in the middle of a forest, middle of nowhere.
	And you start driving up and there's loads of signs saying like, turn back now, you're going to be shot.
	And like, again, like we don't have in the UK that kind of gun.
	Culture.
	And that's not, I'm not passing any moral judgment.
	It's just interesting that there's differences.
	You know, that's all it is.
	But it is different.
	And it's scary for me.
	And exciting.
	Really exciting.
	Because that's why I started doing this in the first place.
	So I'm driving up there going, am I supposed to turn back?
	Does he even remember I'm coming?
	Is he going to shoot me?
	Does he know me?
	Drive up to the top, go past all, like more and more signs getting more and more dangerous.
	It's like you should have bought a squirrel scene from Rat Race if you haven't seen it.
	I don't know.
	I don't know it.
	That joke just is a total flop.
	People will get it.
	When I went down there and Robert Barnes flew down and he rented a place and I forget in which state it was but it was a different state and I'm driving up a country road and I'm thinking I get to a place like, do I knock on the door here?
	Because I'm a long way from home.
	It's beautiful.
	The thing is...
	We both suffer, I think, from the stereotypes that we have been indoctrinated with from childhood.
	That, you know, you think the deliverance when you think the Appalachians.
	You think small-town America are...
	And these stereotypes stay with you for a long time.
	And then you get out there and you realize, hey, they're the most...
	I won't say the most beautiful people on Earth.
	They're among the friendliest, most beautiful people on Earth.
	And you realize that living in a big city, there's a lot of anger, there's a lot of stress, and there's a lot of...
	Nastiness in the big city that you've come to be comfortable with.
	And there's love and just a totally different life.
	But we've been misled about it, I think, from media and movies.
	Oh, well, let me tell you what happened next then.
	So I get to the top, big gate and everything.
	And I'm like, okay, well, I'm at the top of the hill, almost like the car's going down.
	And I'm like, okay, I've got to get out then.
	Someone's going to shoot me.
	I don't know.
	So I walk around this gate because I don't know what else to do.
	There's no bell to ring or anything.
	And there's someone to meet me running over to me, right?
	And do you remember, well, you will remember, I think, the teacher wearing the big breasts, the fake breasts.
	For sure, for sure.
	They were doing a parody of it.
	So someone comes over to me dressed like that person.
	So I'm already, like, not knowing where I am.
	Like, this is so strange for me.
	I've just gotten to the States, and I'm already getting used to just being on the wrong side of the road and all this stuff.
	I'm in the middle of nowhere.
	And then I'm getting a guy running over to me, going, Hi, I'm Diana!
	Like, as a joke, with, like, the fake boobs on and, like, coming to, like, say hello.
	And you're right, it was so friendly, and it made me laugh.
	And after that, I was, like, because I was nervous to go otherwise.
	But then you get in there, and, you know, yeah.
	The whole team is fantastic.
	It was amazing.
	Someone in the chat in Rumble said, John Ronson snuck into Bohemian Grove with Alex Jones 20 years ago.
	And you're right.
	John Ronson could do an expose on Alex Jones today and not get exiled from the left.
	But he's exposing.
	He's not saying we're equal.
	He's not friends with...
	He's not friends with Andrew Tate.
	He can expose Andrew Tate.
	He could go around for a week with Andrew Tate.
	James Altucher.
	Give him a hug and then you'll have a problem.
	Andrew, I'm on the computer that has another stream that's live at 2 o 'clock.
	The audio is going to come and it's going to confuse me greatly.
	We're going to talk more after this.
	Where do people find you?
	Oh, On the Edge with Andrew Gold.
	I am thinking about one day just changing it to just Andrew Gold because maybe On the Edge is confusing.
	So if you're watching this in like a year's time, then you might find me there.
	But it's On the Edge with Andrew Gold.
	And you don't, I'm going to ask the obvious question, do you have a locals community?
	No, I don't.
	I know Eric Hunley's all into that stuff as well, but I don't.
	It's all, maybe that's more American.
	Well, no, we'll talk about that.
	I think you want to talk about creating a community, creating sort of non-reliance on Standard stuff.
	We'll talk more about that afterwards.
	Podcast, and it's on YouTube as well, On the Edge with Andrew Colt.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's on Spotify and Apple as well, but YouTube's where it's growing.
	Lots of stuff on cults, but occasionally stuff on the woke culture.
	Well, not that occasionally, quite often, culture wars.
	Even this week, there's one, Rob Henderson, he talks about luxury beliefs that woke people hold, things like defund the police when you're not someone who's ever going to have to worry about meeting the police.
	Defund the police for the people who have bodyguards and private security and everything.
	And what are you working on next in terms of...
	Setting a podcast aside, any other projects?
	Are you looking to do another documentary or anything like that?
	The idea is eventually to build the YouTube channel up to get to the point where it's worth doing documentary.
	The strange thing about YouTube and all these online things is you can do that and you go out and you spend weeks and weeks and months making this project you want to make and it might just get 1,000 views.
	And then you put out a bit of you just talking to the camera for 10 minutes going, hey guys, how's it going?
	And that gets 100,000 views.
	And you're like, why did I spend all that money and resources and time doing it?
	And I know that there's safety in numbers in terms of subscribers.
	So once I hit 100k, 150k, because it's quite new.
	That's when I might start making those documents.
	And then I will do the culture war stuff.
	I will look into universities and things like that.
	It's not to say that people start chasing that, not the numbers, but the numbers are behind the story.
	So whatever the trending story is, people just try to have a hot take for the sake of it.
	It is the balance of staying true, covering what is of interest to you, even if it might not be of interest to everybody else.
	The Emergencies Act Commission, which is what is going on in Canada right now, is a prime example for me.
	But yeah, you'll find that middle ground and that niche.
	I hope so.
	No, no Rumble yet.
	Look, I was the co-host on Sean Atwood's channel for a year and a half.
	I think I'm just actually stopping that quite soon.
	I haven't sort of announced that yet or anything.
	But he puts a lot of stuff out on Rumble.
	So it's very possible that I've been on Rumble many times without realizing it.
	You and I, we're going to talk strategy after this.
	I have no financial interest in the strategy that we're going to talk.
	Locals.
	For anyone, if you want to build independent freedom and not have to worry about saying words like sexual assault instead of...
	I mean, YouTube is nuts in the soft censorship, but it's a good place.
	And then there's locals.
	Rumble is also the place to be, I think, going forward.
	Because there's a lot of foot traffic.
	There's a lot of viewers down there, and they're into a different type of content than a lot of people at YouTube.
	We'll talk about that.
	Thanks, man.
	Is there anything else that I forgot that you might have wanted to say before we wind up?
	I don't think so.
	There's loads more in the woke stuff than the cult that we can do another time if you want.
	There's loads more on that, but we could talk a day, couldn't we?
	I think we're done.
	It's only because now I've had to resort to my...
	So this is the computer that I was streaming on originally, and it seems to be a piece of shit because I don't know why the internet keeps...
	Blocking on that.
	So now I've got this one, but once the stream comes back up, I'm going to hear two audios in one set.
	I'm just going to get another computer and just have a good new computer because this is getting frustrating.
	But Andrew...
	It's a shame.
	Yeah.
	It's fantastic in his funnel.
	I kind of want to go watch The Exorcist now.
	How long is that documentary?
	Oh, yeah.
	So, yeah, I always forget to say to people to watch that just because I don't get any money from it.
	So, by all means, watch it.
	I don't get anything from it.
	So, whatever.
	It's only 40 minutes, though.
	It's 40 minutes.
	I go and interview an exorcist.
	Some people, look, I'm an atheist, right?
	But so many people on my channel and stuff are not.
	And they still enjoy it because this is exposing an exorcist.
	A rogue exorcist.
	He's a Lutheran, but he's basically an evangelical preacher on his own.
	This is not a reflection of any kind of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, whatever.
	It is his own thing.
	And the guy's a lunatic.
	And the final ten minutes are the most...
	I guarantee...
	Come and talk to me if you disagree with this after.
	The final ten minutes are the most insane ten minutes you've seen that have been on TV ever.
	Ever.
	It goes bananas, the whole thing.
	Not because of exorcism, but because the guy's a lunatic.
	Okay, I would do.
	Sold.
	I'm going to watch this.
	I got to go drive somewhere this afternoon.
	I'm going to watch this while my wife drives.
	Andrew, stick around.
	We'll say proper goodbyes before the audio comes back on, but thank you very much.
	And everyone in the chat, I hope it was good enough.
	Sorry about this.
	I'm going to fix it.
	It's the last day this is going to happen.
	The damn freezing.
	Andrew, fantastic.
	I'll put all your links in there and everybody in the chat.
	See you tomorrow.
	Peace out, peeps.

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