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Oct. 28, 2022 - Viva & Barnes

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Emergencies Act Inquiry Part 2: Friday, Oct. 28, 2022

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	In the heart of our city, in the heart of the parliamentary district.
	And I don't want to in any way forget, I know there are federal representatives here, but the trauma impacted on federal employees, elected officials, public officials, the entire infrastructure and ecosystem that represents our nation's capital, the parliamentary district.
	And I believe Mr. Champ quoted 18,000 or 15,000 residents in that area.
	I don't know how many businesses.
	I know the Rideau Center was closed.
	All of that happened.
	Literally within hours.
	And the relief did not come, I believe, until February 17th, 18th or 19th.
	And we've heard evidence from some of the residents and business owners affected during the first week of hearing that from that time on, they started feeling abandoned by the police, by other leaders, and they felt hopeless.
	That was one of the adjectives they used.
	And they started seeing a kind of general chaos and lawlessness.
	How would you describe what was happening?
	Were those adjectives accurate?
	First of all, I'll never challenge the feelings of a member of our community.
	Their feelings are as righteous and as accurate as they need to be for the human being that expressed them.
	So I'm in no way challenging wherever that.
	Sentiment came from.
	I can tell you that I met with, spoke with, walked around and talked with many of the residents, the business owners.
	I was at a Business Improvement Association meeting that was referenced by one of the witnesses.
	And I heard a range of sentiments.
	I saw a range of responses from incredibly resilient and understanding and patient people.
	An elderly couple, both of them in firm and wheelchairs traveling through that minus 35 degree temperature stopped me.
	As I was getting out of my SUV while doing a live call on a board meeting on February 1st, I believe, and talked to me.
	I think Chair Deans was talking, and I was literally talking to this couple.
	Chief, we know you guys are doing the best you can.
	Please, it's hard for us to get around the sidewalks.
	We're trying to do our shopping.
	We know this is really tough on you and your team.
	Please do your best for us.
	So, yes, I heard expressions of hopelessness.
	I heard accusations of abandonment.
	I would have to say the vast majority that I received directly to me was around resilience.
	Impatience.
	Get this thing resolved as quickly as you can, as completely as you can.
	But resilience.
	And a level of understanding as to what the officers on the ground, and I don't say just officers, the members of our organization, the partners that were deployed already from OPP, RCMP, London, God bless them.
	I think people understood how difficult it was.
	But they didn't see the situation resolving in a day, in two days.
	And I think it's reasonable for people to feel really aggrieved that there isn't a clear solution or a timeline to a clear solution that they could tangibly see and anticipate.
	And we were simply not in a position to provide that to them at that time.
	In addition to the perspectives of the residents and business owners, et cetera, since you were the chief of the Ottawa Police Service, can you tell us how were the members of the Ottawa Police Service holding up?
	Because this was only the beginning.
	It continued for another three weeks or so.
	This is always a little tricky part for me, sorry.
	Is he going to cry?
	Is he going to cry?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I've screwed up everything this morning, but I came in and...
	Is he going to cry?
	They were doing their very best.
	Under inhuman...
	Circumstances.
	Like the city was.
	Like the community was.
	It was too cold and it was too much.
	Oh my goodness.
	Oh my goodness.
	He's crying.
	This is a police chief crying about a protest.
	They should be celebrated.
	Not celebrated.
	That's the wrong word.
	They should be understood.
	Do you feel that they were misunderstood?
	Yes.
	Could you elaborate on that?
	This is a preposterous joke.
	I think I've given this testimony in parliamentary standing committees.
	The level of disinformation and misinformation was off the charts.
	It was crushing to the members' morale.
	It was crushing to the incident command team's morale.
	It was crushing to my executive team's morale.
	I suspect it was crushing to the board.
	It was crushing to everybody.
	It was unrelenting.
	It was 24 hours a day.
	And I think by the end of the weekend, it had become a global story that mainstream media was following.
	And none of it was portraying in any way accurate the hard work of the men and women of the Ottawa Police Service and the partner agencies that stood with us.
	None of it.
	I cannot believe.
	To this day, it hasn't.
	He's actually crying.
	And that is very unfortunate.
	For himself.
	Because public trust and confidence in any police service, I believe, is the number one public safety factor.
	Oh, yeah.
	And nobody trusts you.
	When any police service loses significantly public trust and confidence, that in and of itself is a massive public safety threat and risk.
	It materializes in so many ways.
	I don't know if the commissioner wants me to expand on that, but I'm happy to do so.
	And unfortunately, as quickly as the events unfolded on the morning and the afternoon of the Saturday, public opinion against the Agro Police Service and its members turned just as quickly and to the same unprecedented levels that were unrelenting.
	This man is supposed to be...
	He is the former police chief.
	Crying.
	About a protest and the police being misunderstood.
	Let's hope that this inquiry will be the beginning of that understanding.
	Oh, it'll be the beginning of the understanding.
	It's not going to get any better for you guys.
	Would this be a good time to take a recess?
	If you would like, sure.
	We can take the morning break for 15 minutes.
	Oh my goodness.
	Let me see his face.
	Let's get a hot mic, catch something here.
	Did I do good?
	The commission is in recess for 15 minutes.
	La commissione levé, poquette minute.
	That's the former police chief.
	I want to remove this.
	Give me one second.
	I wasn't ready to go live.
	I screwed everything up this morning.
	hold on Oh my.
	Oh my.
	Cry.
	Okay, hold on.
	Get the lighting.
	It's a little better.
	Okay.
	Holy crab apples.
	Holy crab apples.
	Just kicked the dog.
	So let's explain what happened this morning, because I'm an idiot.
	I'm an idiot, but I'm going to blame the kids.
	Anybody with kids is going to know they are the ultimate scapegoat, but they are also the ultimate culprits.
	Someone unplugged my computer to plug in their iPad.
	Not understanding that computers need power, and when computers are running a mic, a camera, and live streaming continuously, It uses a lot of battery power.
	I don't know how long it went.
	Who was watching, by the way, when it went dead?
	Let me just see what's going on here.
	Did I set up two streams?
	Friday, October 28th.
	Emergencies Act Inquiry.
	I need to see that we're live on Rumble.
	We are.
	Okay.
	That's me.
	Now I've got to make sure not to end the wrong stream.
	So we're live on recording in progress.
	Good.
	I'm going to edit and change the thumbnail because my thumbnail man, DSLR Dave, made a great thumbnail.
	I wasn't ready to put it in yet because I was going to talk about Elon Musk and the absolute Twitter meltdown.
	The meltdown of global epic proportions.
	I was going to get my links in order.
	We've got an interview at 1 o 'clock with the Democracy Fund.
	Talking about the inquiry.
	So at one o 'clock, we might have someone come on before then to talk about something else, but I need to get finalized on a few details.
	So I wasn't ready to go live, but then I see that the stream on the second channel has gone dead because my computer went dead.
	And I don't know how long it was dead for, and then I tried to set it up in a panic, but then accidentally set it up on the main channel, not the second channel.
	So we're going to run with it.
	We're going to run the stream on the main channel today.
	Dark.
	So let me ask you this.
	Whoever was watching before, let me go to Rumble.
	When did the stream go dead during Slowly's testimony?
	Like, how long was the gap between the live stream going down and me setting it back up on the second channel?
	Never dropped on my end.
	Oh, okay, good.
	That's Crash Bandit says, never dropped on my end.
	Someone says, wondered what happened.
	Okay.
	Anyhow, either way.
	Good morning.
	I was only ready to go in the afternoon, but we'll do it live.
	We'll do it live.
	Let me get the lighting.
	Oh my goodness.
	Who's following Twitter?
	So the deal is done.
	Remember that?
	Once upon a time, was it Dave Smith who told Elon Musk, you should buy Twitter?
	And then he said, how much does it cost?
	If nobody knows.
	I have to keep that screen in the background.
	If nobody knows where this all got started, although, you know, maybe it didn't get started there.
	Hold on.
	Let me just go open up a window.
	We'll talk about everything.
	We're going to talk about the incident on Nancy Pelosi's husband.
	Twitter meltdown.
	I forgot to cover a story yesterday that I really wanted to talk about.
	Oh, yeah.
	Crack those.
	Sorry, that's rude.
	That's impolite.
	And I criticize.
	Not I criticize.
	I tell my kid not to crack her knuckles, but then I go ahead and do that.
	Why?
	Because kids are always the best scapegoat.
	They're usually the culprit.
	And parents are hypocrites.
	It's a known fact.
	Parents tell their kids not to do the things that the parents do, because no parent wants their kids starting off life with bad habits.
	We are invariably going to get into certain bad habits, but you don't want your kids developing them too early.
	Elon Musk, Dave Smith by Okay, here we go.
	Check this out.
	Some people don't necessarily appreciate.
	I don't know if it got started here, but we can pretend for the sake of the story that this is where it started.
	DaveSmith.com.
	I don't know who Dave is.
	Dave Smith is a comic.
	Here.
	I love Twitter, says Elon Musk.
	This is December 21, 2017.
	I love Twitter.
	You should buy it then.
	To which he says, How much is it?
	What I'm going to do is go ahead and just screen grab that.
	That's where it started, potentially.
	Dave Smith, news guy, host of Refresh Insider.
	Well, it's done.
	It's done.
	Lawsuits, threats of lawsuits, it's done.
	And by the way, it's not just done.
	Harag Agrawal.
	Fired.
	It's done.
	Elon has taken over.
	And he's cleaning house.
	Elon Musk, where is this from?
	This is from Insider, updated 14 hours ago.
	Elon Musk's first move as Twitter's new owner has been to fire at least four top executives, including CEO Parag Agrawal.
	No, thank you.
	I don't want to sign up.
	Elon Musk fired at least four top Twitter executives after becoming the platform's new owner.
	The execs include Paragagral, Ned Siegel.
	I don't know who these people are.
	Legal?
	Oh my God, tell me his name is not Legal Siegel.
	Come on.
	Okay, I don't really get into the whole, what's it called?
	Simulation.
	But the head legal at CEO, the chief, well.
	Oh, darn it.
	No, that would have been good.
	It's legal and policy head Vijaya Gad.
	Okay, no.
	Oh, Vijaya Gad.
	Saw her on...
	It was Joe Rogan with Tim Pool.
	Oh, it would have been so good if the Ned Siegel were the chief legal.
	Anyhow, COO Ned Siegel, legal and policy head Vijaya Gad.
	Whom we saw with Jack Dorsey on that episode, the podcast with Joe Rogan and Tim Pool, and General Counsel Sean Edgen.
	Twitter and Musk fought for months over his attempt to back out of the acquisition.
	Elon Musk fired at the four top execs.
	First of all, I do actually want to see what their severance was.
	I don't revel in anybody's suffering.
	I have all of the issues in the world with the execs of Twitter and what they've done to this company over the last however long.
	Don't revel in their misery.
	And there's no but.
	It wouldn't have happened if they had done their jobs properly.
	None of this would have happened if they hadn't treated Twitter like it was not a public forum, public square, public discourse.
	Whatever.
	None of this would have happened if they had not been partisan hacks using Twitter as a weapon for political influence.
	None of this would have happened had they run the company responsibly, ethically, and consistently, and apolitically.
	That being said, they're out.
	Now, they probably got out with, I don't know, however, tens of millions of dollars.
	Let's see if we find it here, if we see it.
	The executives fired, at least one was fired, at least one of the fired executives was seen escorted out of Twitter's San Francisco headquarters, per the sources.
	Insider reached out to Musk, Agaral Segal Gad, and Twitter for comment.
	Musk, who wanted to walk away from his initial purchase for $44 billion, made a U-turn on the offer in October.
	Okay, we saw that, we saw that.
	His acquisition of the social media sparked concerns.
	Concerns?
	Dude, we're going to go through my Twitter feed.
	It hasn't sparked concerns.
	Oh, it's concerns among employees?
	It hasn't sparked concerns among employees.
	It sparked meltdowns among employees and among others.
	One shared with Insider what it was like before Musk reached the deadline close to the deal.
	Let's hear it.
	Let's hear it.
	Where is it?
	Ah, forget it.
	We'll go later.
	What was Parag Agrawal?
	Severance.
	I guess that's gonna...
	Yeah.
	They're fired.
	Take your $15 million and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
	Oh, Twitter's top executives stand to make a total of $88 million between them.
	Between them.
	If Elon ousts them, here's the payday for each executive.
	That's what we want to see.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	Musk just took...
	Okay.
	Getting fired by Musk will likely give the executives some of the largest payouts they've ever seen.
	Through, quote, change in control provisions in employment contracts for top leadership, they will receive a certain amount of severance and an automatic acceleration of their salaries so long as Musk fires them.
	I presume it would be unless they're fired for cause.
	So bear in mind, people, no legal advice, hashtag no legal advice, yadda yadda, y 'all know the rules, and then I'll get into the standard intros.
	There's termination without cause, which is you can fire whenever you want and you have to pay a certain severance, a certain amount, depending on laws, depending on state laws, whatever.
	Some states don't even have these laws, but you can have them built into your contracts.
	I'm pretty sure in every jurisdiction, even right-to-work jurisdictions where you can't fire willy-nilly, you can always fire for cause.
	This is not going to be a fire for cause.
	This is going to be sort of like A cleaning house.
	Kind of like, you know, what some think Trump ought to have done when he came into office.
	Just get rid of the old administration because they're not going to help you.
	When you come into Twitter as the new owner, you could bet that the people who have been running the company in a way that is diametrically opposite to your stated purpose for taking over the company in the first place, you're probably going to want a clean house.
	It's not going to be firing for cause.
	It's not like Parade was guilty of some form of I already read that.
	Let's open that up in the background.
	Oh.
	Oh my goodness.
	The numbers.
	Numbers that just don't make sense to regular people.
	Okay, doesn't matter.
	We'll get there later.
	Agarwal, who saw Musk turn on him months ago, I think he might have turned on him earlier than that, is set to receive the largest payout of $38.7 million, due largely to the entirety of his shares vesting upon his firing.
	Ned Siegel, Twitter's chief financial officer, is set to receive $25.4 million payout for getting fired.
	I wonder what they're going to have to pay in terms of taxes.
	Vijay Gad, chief legal officer, will leave with $12.5 million.
	Sarah Parsonette, the chief customer officer, would get $11.2 million.
	That's a lot of money.
	In the months between Musk taking a large investor stake in the company and becoming its new owner, Twitter executives have remained largely silent in public.
	When Agaral attempted back in April to chastise Musk for some of his public comments about the platform, it led to Musk quickly turning on him and denouncing his intent to take over the company.
	Now Musk will likely have to pay Agaral on the way out.
	Yeah, something tells me like $80 million of a $44 billion acquisition is a drop in the bucket.
	I mean, it is a drop in the bucket.
	It's just a question of how big a drop and how big a bucket.
	But we should be live on Rumble.
	We are live on Rumble.
	Here.
	I didn't put the links up because I accidentally went live before I intended to do anything.
	We're live on Rumble.
	Here it is.
	Boom shakalaka.
	A super chat that I missed.
	Here we go.
	The question is if he also purged the CIA agents that run the platform as well.
	Hot pocket.
	Hot pockets!
	I neither affirm nor can contradict that statement.
	I am merely reading a super chat.
	There have been some theories that Twitter, a company which...
	Did it run at a profit at any point in time?
	I know I've asked this before.
	Viva is a Trudeau shill.
	You got me, Moose Nut.
	I know I asked what their profitability was because there's very few companies that can remain in business, in legitimate business.
	While not being profitable, unless they have other forms of profitability that are super financial, like, would not meta-financial, that are beyond, beyond financial.
	And those typically tend to be like intelligence-type agencies.
	If Twitter exists, if its value is not in the profits it makes by way of sales, It's benefit might be in intelligence, in gathering information, in manipulating for political purposes.
	Guys, I'm going to set up the stream on the separate stream anyhow, just so that people can watch this without...
	Unless we want to watch this together for a bit and then just keep going back and forth.
	You guys want to watch the hearing for a bit?
	Yeah, let's bring it back in.
	Here, hold on.
	Sorry.
	Before the break, you were crying.
	We can.
	And how it hit everyone really hard.
	I'd like to take you now to January the 31st.
	Exactly like the CBC.
	Which I believe is the Monday after.
	Yes, sir.
	We've heard from Deputy Chief Ferguson that that was when the executive team realized that...
	Let's do this for a few minutes.
	I'll set up the stream again properly on the second channel.
	That was her evidence, and I'm interested in your view on that.
	My view is it was unlawful the moment a law was broken in relation to the events.
	And so for me, that was clearly the Saturday morning.
	It was unlawful after the first day!
	I don't want to in any way interpret Acting Deputy Chief Ferguson's impression.
	I think I would position 31st as...
	We now know this is going to be a longer-term occupation.
	There are fortifications, and there is an alarming level of public safety issues writ large, and we're going to have to pivot our plan to now address the current context and near-future context that we're going to be dealing with.
	So it's in that context that perhaps, again, I don't want to misinterpret, but perhaps...
	Full command is fully on the same page, and the incident command team is pivoting the plan now into the next phase of this occupying period.
	Tell us about that pivot.
	What did the executive team decide to do?
	I don't know if there is any significant decision.
	We needed a significant update on the intelligence threat risk.
	Much of that was in place in the build-up and iterations, but we now needed to escalate to another level.
	And again, that cycle of intelligence threat risk assessment to then feed the pivoting operational plan.
	To what extent are we going to need different resources, greater levels of resources in one area versus another area?
	And to what extent do we need to build out sub-plans and other things?
	For me at the chief of police level, what resources are we going to need?
	What do I now need to do to inform and or engage other levels, including the oversight body of the Ottawa Police Services Board, the City of Ottawa, and other factors?
	And I will be, I was still trying to understand really what had just arrived in our city.
	What really was it?
	And even just level set my own understanding, never mind the work that was being done on behalf of me through.
	Deputies Bell and Acting Deputy.
	Deputy Bell described that first week as a period of orientation or reorientation.
	Do you agree with that description?
	I think I understand the theme behind it.
	I would probably use different language, but I think it's definitely what just happened.
	How do we now need to reorient, to reassess, and then start to...
	Address the situation going forward.
	So after the convoy arrived, we've seen an initial plan dated January the 28th.
	What was the understanding now in terms of going forward in terms of the need for a new plan?
	There was no need for a new plan.
	There was a need for an evolution of the plan that we had.
	An evolution of the threat risk assessment that was in that plan.
	Again, I want to make it clear there was only ever...
	One plan.
	There were many iterations of it.
	There was only ever one threat risk assessment.
	There were many iterations of it.
	So what was the understanding then about the need for this new evolved plan?
	On the Monday the 31st?
	Yes.
	Probably the number one thing at that point was staffing, staffing, staffing, staffing.
	To see what was going on.
	How did you go about achieving that?
	Oh, it was after they broke a law.
	Without the absence of my notes, but as simple as...
	How many more officers can we redeploy from our overall complement of policing a city of a million people in the nation's largest municipal geography to that micro core of the red zones and the immediate neighborhoods around it?
	I think by that point, again, I stand to be corrected if the records say otherwise, but that point we already started to look at changing our shift hours.
	To create a greater volume of officers available, officers and civilian members.
	I don't know if we had, at that point, reached out to the association, the Ottawa Police Association, to start to negotiate a whole different shift schedule.
	That might have come later on in the week, but that was the focus.
	And then external resource requests, requests that went to OPP and other police services to send additional resources on top of what they had provided us already.
	So around that period, January 31st and the next few days, did the OPS start reaching out to other external agencies for help?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Tell us what steps you or the other members of the executive team did.
	Predominantly...
	It's going to get boring real fast.
	It sort of happens at two levels.
	You know, the agency-to-agency relationships.
	Would already be, you know, phone calls and text messages to people that they knew in other agencies.
	You know, you'll get something formal from the chief, but we need X, Y, and Z. And then the formal request would come up through Acting Deputy Chief Ferguson, and then I would make a reach out to the respective agencies.
	So probably my approach for the main...
	I may have deviated every now and then, would be a text message to the chief of police or commissioner saying that you'll be getting a formal request, but I'm looking for X or Y or Z. And then my executive assistant would produce the document and I would forward that formally.
	Once I got a positive response, the positive response I would then forward to our legal services department and they would go through the process of enabling a memorandum of understanding, an MOU.
	Now, I want to get a better understanding of the options that were opened while the OPS were reaching out for external help.
	So, I want to take you to a document, OPS 405631.
	Okay, we are now live on the second channel.
	With this very same thing, which we're going to listen to this for five more minutes, then we're going to end it on the main channel.
	Anybody who wants to watch this painful torture all day long.
	Just looking at the top, it says public order.
	Check on the other channel.
	Convoy de-escalation planning meeting, February 1st, 2022.
	Do you have, perhaps we can scroll down a little so you can familiarize yourself.
	It says there's a meeting with the chief.
	Can we go down further?
	There are a number of discussion points.
	So, for example, the third bullet, there's a notation that every single option could be explored and is open to discussion.
	He is happy to come back and further discuss anything if we need him to.
	He, I take it, refers to you.
	Yes, sir.
	So, if we go down further, PLT would like...
	One more attempt to speak with every convoy to get them on the same page.
	We scroll down further.
	Every POU we asked for will not be released to come to Ottawa as protests happening now everywhere.
	We might not get the staffing numbers we asked for.
	So there are a couple of things I wanted to ask you to comment on.
	First of all, there's a reference to Things happening elsewhere.
	What can you tell us about that?
	I believe by the 31st, I'm certain, unless I'm really off base, but Coots, Alberta was already in play at that point.
	On the Monday, I don't recall any other Ontario sites.
	I don't even think the announcement of the...
	No, on the Monday...
	Oh, sorry.
	On the Tuesday, by then, there might have been...
	I've been going through my old dreams.
	Some sort of indication that there would be an event in Toronto around Greenspark.
	Just to refresh my memory.
	But I don't think there was any other active sites in Ontario.
	There were, I believe, some demonstrations at other provincial capitals across the country.
	But for sure, Coutts was active and clearly being televised.
	And we were seeing, I was getting briefings from Commissioner Lucky on the events out there.
	So by this time, which I believe was February the 2nd or the 1st, February the 1st, I believe, Things are happening elsewhere.
	And if we go back to the top, one of the discussion points, do you see the third bullet from the bottom?
	It says POU units across the province needed.
	What does that refer to?
	So maybe I could just give some context to the meeting.
	Please.
	So this is a Tuesday.
	We are significantly into the pivot at this point.
	Okay.
	We're all set up.
	I had received varying levels of input, some of them just random emails, some of them very specific conversations with people with a lot of experience in unprecedented, unusual public safety events.
	And the validation that I was getting from small-eye information to...
	Chat, let me put up a poll.
	Put up a five-minute poll.
	Who wants to continue listening to this on the main show?
	Larger than your police service is going to be able to handle.
	It was national and in some cases international in scope.
	It was fueled by significant funding, significant deep misinformation, disinformation, and polarization.
	Just to name a few.
	Polarization.
	This meeting was my first attempt to sit down with Acting Deputy Chief Ferguson as a major Incident commander, I had invited, I had asked for Inspector Lucas to be at the meeting.
	He could not attend, and I respect his reason, although I don't know it specifically.
	I think Inspector Morin was sent as his designate, I think, but he was a senior officer from the ICS team that was there, Staff Sergeant Mike Stoll, who was the ESU commander, our POU commander.
	What does ESU stand for?
	Emergency Safety Unit.
	I think, or Emergency Services Unit.
	Sorry, it's been a little bit of time.
	It's synonymous with POU.
	You want to cry again?
	Essentially, but broader, I think actually a broader use of trained officers that are actually more effectively deployed.
	A really good practice here that Ottawa should be recognized for.
	Ottawa Police Service should be recognized for.
	There's a poll.
	And I had brought with me the two PLT supervisors because I had information, feedback internally, that our PLT members Weren't being out of the loop of substantive discussions like this.
	And I requested that the two supervisors be there, and they were there, and you see their contributions later on in the notes.
	But this is the substantive first time that I'm sitting down with the incident command thread, strategic, operational, and tactical, asking, what are you folks seeing?
	How are you assessing this?
	No decisions being made here.
	I need situational awareness.
	I need your assessment.
	We had been blessed with commanders of some expertise and experience from other jurisdictions that were in that room.
	I think London was there.
	I can't remember if Durham.
	I believe there was an OPP commander.
	I can't recall, but there were at least three other agencies in the room.
	So it wasn't just us talking to us.
	There was a healthy amount of external expertise.
	And we went through what I would call, I won't say it's a whiteboarding session, but a consultation discussion session that I wanted to get to at some point to, okay, well, this is good now.
	What's the move forward coming up from this?
	So that's the context of this meeting.
	I'll pause there if you want to come back to the question you want me to ask.
	I'm interested in this notation that POU units across the province needed.
	Around, I'd say around the midpoint of that meeting, I would have almost turned to Michelle Morin and Mike Stoll, who were sitting to my right, and said, what's the level of POU that you would think we would need to start to dismantle the red zone and end the occupation?
	And then there was like a real-time discussion between my folks and the other POU commanders in the room.
	There were others that were chiming in.
	It was mainly a POU discussion, and I've been in them many other times before, so I know how this feels.
	I just sort of sat back and watched this new generation of experts do their thing, and it was kind of cool to watch.
	And within a really short circuit of time, it was almost unanimous.
	This may not be the exact language, but as close to it, we're going to need everything in Ontario and a bunch more from across Canada.
	That was one of the moments where I truly understood the scale of what we were facing.
	Everything in Ontario and a bunch more from across Canada.
	This guy slowly has one job here.
	Protect his own incompetent.
	G8, G20.
	Nothing else.
	G20.
	There was actual violence at the G20.
	That's what I truly understand from people with amazing expertise from different jurisdictions.
	Add on to that whatever other resources we're going to request, that's somewhere already in the range of six, seven, eight hundred officers, plus investigators, plus boots-on-the-ground officers, plus dispatchers, analysts, special constables to handle mass arrests.
	The number is going to be well north of a thousand, and it's way more than we will ever be able to supply within the Ottawa Police Service.
	Within the eastern region of Ontario, within the province.
	So that recognition came as early as February 1st.
	Yes, sir.
	Now, if we go down a little...
	All right, I realize waiting for 1,000 votes in this poll is unrealistic because there's only 1,000 watching on YouTube.
	We'll go to 500.
	Come on, people, get in their vote.
	Do we move on?
	Do we stay?
	We need to clear all the roads and stop honking in exchange for fuel in a place to park.
	We'll honk for fuel.
	We have zero room to negotiate.
	If they don't deal with it in this way, they will be removed.
	Why is it that there was zero room to negotiate?
	Oh, so dangerous.
	I don't know.
	I'm assuming this is the PLT contribution to the discussion.
	These aren't my notes, and it doesn't seem to be attributed to one or both of the supervisors.
	I don't know if this is...
	Their briefing contribution in totality.
	So I'm not sure what that means.
	I was just curious because it appears that the PLT would like more time, more opportunity to speak to the convoy.
	And then perhaps there was another view expressed, no room to negotiate.
	I was just wondering if you could enlighten us on what this discussion was about.
	Again, there were some 20 people in the room and it was really an open forum discussion with people just contributing ideas in a very fluid way.
	If I could take you now to the next document, the next day, OPS 3014484.
	I'm getting the links for the stuff that we want to talk about.
	So if we go to page 22. Now Chief Sloe, do you have a practice of...
	Making notes to yourself, sending yourself emails as reminders or things like that?
	Yes, I do, sir.
	And would this be one of those examples?
	Yes, sir.
	So here we read, advise that all options on the table needs to consider...
	Sorry, can you...
	I'm just not sure the context or date or time of this.
	Sorry.
	Yes.
	Call with Mayor, and it's the timestamp...
	337 votes.
	It looks like there's an insurmountable...
	And we see a name on the top left.
	Maria Fortunato?
	Who's that?
	That's my executive assistant, or was my executive assistant.
	Remind us what happened.
	The content of the email, which is, I guess, note to yourself.
	This guy was crying about the protest.
	Advise that all options on the table needs to consider the political option.
	What roles What was the purpose of this note to yourself?
	At this point, I actually didn't have an assigned scribe, so I was trying in real time to capture information around...
	Conversations that I thought were important or a point that I was trying to remember.
	So it's not a consistent practice with every single meeting that I would go back and do this.
	That's the context of the note.
	I don't know if that answers your question, sir.
	And since the subject at the top says call with mayor, we read demonstration.
	Does that capture some of the contents of the call?
	Some of it, yes, sir.
	On the 2nd of February.
	I didn't mean to bring this chat up.
	On that same day, you made a...
	Voted.
	Move on.
	...announcement that turned out to be...
	By the way, I've lined up a guest.
	Do you know what I'm talking about?
	Another guest.
	I think I can guess what's coming, sir.
	Okay, give me your guess.
	There may not be a policing solution to this.
	Why did you say that?
	For all the reasons that we've talked about.
	The size and scale of the events were...
	Not going to be able to be handled by any one police or jurisdiction.
	There might not be a policing solution to this.
	That this was a national scope event.
	It started from corners of all parts of Canada and arrived in our city.
	It was already, by the second, in several other locations, Coutts specifically, I think by the second, there would have been some indication that Queen's Park in Toronto would have been a location.
	There was not going to be a policing solution to it?
	By a wide variety of polarizing issues, not the least of which was the vaccine mandates, but there were many other anti-government sentiment expressed at all three levels of government.
	And some of this was just people looking to come into our city and participate in an event to have an unruly and, in many cases, unlawful party.
	Liar!
	You liar!
	This was...
	The underpinnings that created this event and brought it substantially into our city were well beyond the Police Services Act mandate of me as a police chief and the Ottawa Police Service in the police jurisdiction.
	You're going to have to engage other elements of civil society and likely all three levels of government to make in some way a meaningful contribution to a sustainable solution to the end of it.
	What a liar.
	What was the context?
	The people just wanted a party.
	They drove across the country for a party slowly.
	I can't remember if it was a board meeting or if it was a council meeting that the board was in attendance at.
	There was a range of questions for hours and at some point one of the questions elicited that response.
	He's got it pegged.
	People drove 3,000 kilometers for a party in Ottawa to be unruly.
	Moron.
	Do you feel that you were understood?
	No.
	Largely misunderstood, but by a lot of people, very understood.
	And have you had a chance to reflect on the statement you made since the time you made it?
	A lot.
	And what conclusions have you come to?
	I needed to be more clear.
	Okay.
	What did you need to be more clear on?
	No, they came for a party.
	That the Ottawa Police Service is doing and will continue to do everything we possibly can do.
	Just to be clear, that was literally the substantive answer I was giving during that meeting.
	All options are on the table.
	We're doing everything we can.
	We're calling all the staffing we can.
	We are rearranging our plan.
	We're calling out to our partners.
	Before that statement was made, it wasn't made in a vacuum.
	We were hours into a long meeting with multiple questions from multiple stakeholders.
	I believe my board were present.
	I stand to be corrected.
	City councillors, the mayor, what are you doing?
	How are you going to end this?
	When is it going to end?
	Please understand we're doing everything we can and we'll continue to do everything we can on a repeat loop.
	But at some point, this isn't going to end just by the Ottawa Police Service.
	Even if we could find a way to get all the resources, it's going to come back again next week, the month after Canada Day.
	This is a larger movement or series of movements.
	This is a trend that's happening across the country and around the world.
	Is it political or military?
	There needs to be more than just a policing solution to it.
	That's the context.
	Now, I did reflect on it.
	And in the days and weeks and now months after that, I've...
	In opportunities like this, expanded on that short phrase.
	Yeah, what do you mean?
	I think there's ample documentation in my notes, scribe notes, to talk about me explaining this further to the chair, at board meetings, and other conversations.
	Did you mean a political solution or a military solution?
	To provide a more fulsome explanation.
	Within hours and days of it, I was trying to provide that more fulsome explanation to my board oversight and to other public bodies and civil actors.
	Now, there are those who may say that your statement fostered a perception among the public and the protesters that the OPS was vulnerable and unable to police the convoy.
	What do you say to that?
	Again, like my earlier comment, sir, everyone is entitled to their opinion and they're certainly entitled to their feelings.
	And I can understand that if...
	If that was the only thing they heard from and they were not available to hear all the other efforts I made to clarify that, that that could leave them with a sense that we'd just given up.
	So I'm not challenging that.
	But let me be clear.
	I don't know if that is different from any other statement I've made around the role of policing in society.
	If you recall my earlier comments when I introduced my approach to policing and how I did it.
	The police are not going to solve guns and gangs and drugs on their own without education, health care, social services, the volunteer sector, communities themselves.
	The police are not going to be able to solve sexual assaults on their own without advocacy groups and legislative change.
	So there isn't any major aspect of policing, crime management, order management, traffic management, even traffic management.
	We can't patrol the amount of highways unless we have...
	Bylaw changes, signage changes, engineering changes that were well beyond the remit of the police service to demand and deliver.
	So for me, this is a consistent theme that I have spoken on and acted in accordance throughout my entire policing career.
	It wasn't for me an unusual statement, but it was heard in unusual and unprecedented circumstances and misinterpreted broadly, badly.
	Do you think that the lack of clarity of the statement might have risked Contributing to a loss of public trust in the ability of the police to respond?
	I can't rule that out, sir.
	But I think I made enough efforts after that to clarify that.
	And demonstrably, the Ottawa Police Service, with its partners, kept putting out everything we possibly could for as long as we could.
	I would very strongly suggest well past where we should have been.
	Our actions should have spoken louder than words.
	By Saturday afternoon, there had been a cemented narrative, and I don't think it ever changed.
	My statement probably didn't help it.
	Sorry, we're done.
	I'm going to take my headphones off, because I don't need to hear this now.
	Put the headphones here.
	Do I have...
	Should I put my hair up?
	Samurai ponytail?
	Let's do it.
	Oh yeah, people.
	If I didn't look...
	No, that's too crazy.
	That's too crazy.
	Okay, we're just gonna go like this.
	Holy crab apples.
	Highlight of the day.
	The day's not over.
	Chief slowly, former Ottawa police chief slowly, crying.
	Because of the stress and the...
	I mean, here's the thing.
	He was...
	Fired?
	I don't know.
	Demoted?
	Whatever you want to call it.
	I have no doubt his tears are genuine.
	Like when Alec Baldwin cried during the interview with...
	Was it George Stephanopoulos?
	When Alec Baldwin cried during his interview, it was Stephanopoulos.
	The tears were real.
	But he wasn't crying about what he did.
	He was crying about what happened to him.
	He was crying about...
	His vision, his future, his own personal dream, his own aspirations.
	He was crying at the death of those and not actually at what he did.
	No man ban the bun.
	Well, how about just a ponytail?
	Like, this is...
	If I just put it...
	Like, it's long enough now.
	I can just put it into a...
	You see, like that.
	But I feel naked.
	I feel naked.
	Okay, so here's what's happening, by the way.
	This is going to be very, very short notice and just confirmed.
	Now, you all are familiar with...
	We're going to get back to Elon Musk.
	We're going to get back to Twitter.
	We're going to get to a story about...
	Stop it.
	Stop it.
	Thank you.
	We're going to get back to...
	This story that I forgot to get to yesterday about, you know, it's a little-known fact that countries have vaccine injury programs.
	Canada's got one.
	The U.S. has got one.
	Australia's got one.
	Buddha, three things cannot long be hidden.
	The sun, the moon, and the truth.
	There are some numbers you can argue about.
	What's his face?
	I'm going to forget who said it.
	Three types of lies.
	Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
	Benjamin Disraeli said that.
	Benjamin Disraeli, I believe, is the one who said it.
	Three types of lies.
	Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
	Well, there's things that you can argue about, and then there's things that are going to be much more difficult to argue about if the numbers are accurate.
	The only defense to this are going to be the numbers can't be accurate.
	They paid out...
	The payouts for vaccine injuries in Australia, according to an article from the Epoch Times, has ballooned.
	Not two-fold, three-fold, 80-fold.
	We'll get to it.
	It's going to be tough to figure...
	It's going to be tough to get around that one.
	Figures lie and liars figure.
	And statistics can be used to prove anything.
	87% of the people know that.
	Homer Simpson.
	Okay, we're going to get to all of that.
	This is something that I've been seeing in the chat.
	I haven't been avoiding it to avoid it.
	I'm a very, you know, that I'm neurotic, but I call it cautious, but I'll call it neurotically cautious or cautiously neurotic.
	Jerry McKenzie was on the channel.
	We did a massive live stream where we went over everything.
	Jeremy McKenzie, founder of Diagalon, domestic threat to national security, arguably the reason.
	Or at least one of the reasons for which the Emergencies Act was invoked by Justin Trudeau to combat Diagilon, an ideologically motivated violent extremist group that's gained notoriety online.
	One of the people arrested in Coutts allegedly had a Diagilon patch on a vest that was allegedly found with a bunch of other allegedly unlawful firearms.
	So Jeremy was on the channel.
	We did a long stream where we talked about everything.
	Then, you know, it was the same week, and I think it was the day before or a couple of days before or shortly after, roughly around the same time, a story breaks about him having allegedly violently assaulted his ex-girlfriend in Saskatchewan.
	So, And, you know, that story circulated around and, you know...
	The internet is what it is.
	People think they're scoring.
	Oh, Viva!
	Why are you giving this guy a platform?
	Yada, yada, yada.
	Okay.
	Jeremy was on.
	He was standing.
	He was facing charges for unlawful firearm possession.
	A bunch of charges, which we went over.
	Okay.
	There's nothing bad about Diagon.
	True.
	Now, some people are their own worst enemies.
	And Jeremy, a man who seeks to be edgy, Seeks to be in your face.
	Shortly after that interview, it might not have been so shortly, but after that interview, then made the rounds again because of a joke he made about doing something very assault of a sexual nature to Pierre Poilier's wife.
	There's certain rules that people tend to generally abide by on the internet.
	You keep people's family out of things.
	To the extent that they're unrelated.
	There's other rules that you don't make jokes about that type of stuff.
	Period.
	And why not?
	Well, A, they're not funny.
	By and large.
	They're not funny.
	B, people hear different things on the internet.
	You say something as a joke, someone doesn't hear it as a joke.
	C, it's just over the top, inappropriate, offensive.
	Think what you will about free speech.
	Free speech, in as much as you can be, as much of a free speech absolutist as you want to be, doesn't mean...
	Saying whatever you want to say just for the sake of saying it and free speech and you can't criticize me for doing it.
	Especially when it can be misunderstood, misinterpreted.
	So after that interview, Jeremy McKenzie doing one of his community streams, drinking alcohol, maybe other stuff.
	You get the warm feeling of invincibility to make whatever edgy jokes you want.
	Says something that is indefensible, period, as relates to Pierre Poilier's wife.
	You can say freedom of speech, you can say comedy, edginess, whatever.
	It's not something I'm going to defend, full stop.
	That being said, whether or not it's criminal, I'll leave that to the authorities and the court system to decide whether or not that comment could be construed as a bona fide threat, as other forms of unlawful or criminal harassment, whatever.
	But indefensible, as far as I'm concerned, and you can call me whatever you want, this is not about preventing someone from saying what I think is indefensible.
	It's about me saying, go ahead and say it.
	You'll suffer the consequences.
	And I find it indefensible.
	So Jeremy did that.
	As he's facing these charges, makes enemies, or at the very least, makes it very difficult for allies to continue defending Jeremy McKenzie because that statement itself is so indefensible on its face.
	But those are separate issues.
	So a lot of people have to pull back, distance themselves, say, look, Jeremy McKenzie, I believe in the Freedom Convoy.
	I believe in a lot of stuff.
	Don't believe in what he said, and it was a stupid thing to say, especially since it gives all the political fodder to adversaries to discredit the individual and the movement.
	It's not just unfair for Jeremy McKenzie.
	It's unfair for the people who followed Jeremy McKenzie, who supported him, and for the movement that Jeremy McKenzie himself supported.
	Now people get to say, ooh, This is what the Freedom Convoy is all about.
	Making jokes about sexual assault and etc.
	Whatever.
	So he makes that joke, gets back in the public headlines, and then shortly thereafter gets arrested apparently on a nationwide, a national warrant.
	Nationwide warrant.
	A federal national warrant.
	That was September 21st.
	Not September.
	October.
	It was late October.
	He gets arrested and hasn't been heard from in any meaningful sense since.
	He's been in jail since.
	And I've been hearing stories about the conditions of his detention, the terms of his detention, and it's very difficult to report on these things.
	Analysis, breakdowns are one thing, but when you're dealing with stories for which there's very little public information and media doesn't really see...
	The mainstream Canadian legacy media gives this many ounces of shits about Jeremy McKenzie.
	For all they care, he could, in fact, be in solitary confinement.
	And good for him, he deserves it because guilty until proven innocent.
	And so I've heard the stories.
	I've been people reaching out.
	And I think we're going to have his girlfriend, who knows more, come on in a few minutes to tell us what's going on from her perspective.
	I can't verify any of this information.
	I can't vet it.
	But from what I've been hearing about his terms of detention...
	where he is now currently detained and apparently in Saskatchewan.
	Jeremy could be a convicted criminal and this is not something that I would tolerate if what I'm hearing are in fact the conditions under which he's being detained.
	And this is not partisan, by the way.
	I'll vocally say that nine years for marijuana But nine years for that is excessive.
	When Willie Nash, who got 12 years In jail because he had a cell phone in his prison cell and he got 12 years.
	Sentenced to 12 years.
	Midnight Express.
	What did I say?
	Midnight Run?
	Sorry.
	Midnight Express.
	Midnight Run, I think, was another movie.
	12 years for having a cell phone in jail that he didn't even necessarily know was unlawful because that's what the law...
	Unjust.
	Inhumane.
	When I see...
	It's not Logan's run, people.
	Stop messing with me.
	When I hear that January 6th defendants are detained for going on two years in pretrial detention, it's not because they're on my side of the political aisle.
	I don't have a side of the political aisle.
	It's because they're humans, and I'm a human.
	And left or right, white or black, man or woman, straight or gay, injustice is injustice.
	And it's not because Jeremy McKenzie might be guilty of something.
	It's not because Jeremy McKenzie might be a loathsome individual to certain people.
	That I'm going to tolerate an injustice to a human, a perversion of our judicial system.
	But for the grace of God, you could become a political enemy yourself and people will justify this.
	So his girlfriend's going to come on in a few minutes and tell us what's going on.
	In her, in her, she's in direct communication with him.
	If what's going on is in fact going on, It's not because Jeremy McKenzie might be the founder of Diagon.
	You might think he's a domestic threat, a purveyor of ideologically motivated violent extremism, that he made an awful comment about Pierre Poilierre's wife.
	It's not because all that might even be true that you can justify inhumane treatment of detained individuals.
	Innocent until proven guilty, I might add.
	Thank you.
	I see someone say, LOL, Viva doesn't have a side, S. Clift.
	And I don't know if that's in a response to someone else who says Viva clearly has a side, or if that's LOL sarcasm, clearly Viva has a side.
	I have no side.
	And that's not to say, however, that Nancy Pelosi, I'll take another example, that's not to say that AOC is not an abject idiot.
	And let me think of someone else.
	Oh my goodness, I can't.
	And Joe Kent is not objective quality in politicians.
	Become somewhat critical of Dan Crenshaw as well.
	What's my side?
	I like to think my side is the truth.
	And not my truth, but rather thorough, thoughtful analysis to come to the conclusion of what the truth is.
	Viva.
	Isn't ignorance of the law not a viable and or excusable defense in any country?
	I can't comment on any country.
	I can't comment on whether or not there are perhaps some exceptions of not knowing some obscure regulation that might otherwise be a legitimate defense.
	But yes, nul n 'est censé ignorer la loi.
	That's the expression in Quebec.
	Nul n 'est censé ignorer la loi.
	Ignorance of the law is no defense.
	Now, what does that mean?
	Jeremy might be guilty of crimes.
	Humans still get treated.
	Humanely, while detained, and innocent until proven guilty, typically should result in the pretrial release and not the pretrial detention of individuals who have not yet gone to trial.
	So Jerry McKenzie, from what I've heard and from what I understand, has been detained.
	He was arrested in Nova Scotia, detained and apparently in solitary confinement in Nova Scotia.
	Flown to Saskatchewan, to Saskatoon, I believe, where he's detained there under conditions which have been described to me as being what I think is objectively inhumane.
	I don't know if it's true.
	I haven't seen videos.
	I haven't seen any documents.
	And this is why it's very difficult to comment on this, to analyze it.
	I don't know.
	And it's very difficult to know in life at this point.
	Because we don't know the truth unless you see it with your own eyes.
	And then everybody else says, well, I didn't see it with my own eyes, so why should I believe what you saw with your own eyes?
	I am not assuming that anybody should have my sense of morality.
	I know that too many people don't.
	Now, what I'm going to do, by the way, while Morgan comes, because I see her in the background here, Morgan mayhem, I need to...
	What I'm going to do is temporarily on the other stream, I'm going to bring out the other stream and...
	Try to simultaneously have this interview on the other stream, and we're going to have a 15-minute pause on the inquiry.
	First and foremost, because I still haven't figured out how to only hear one audio, and I cannot listen to that stream while trying to pay attention to this interview with Morgan.
	So let me figure this out.
	Everyone watching on the other stream is going to have to deal with this for a second.
	Okay, I'm going to go here.
	This is the other stream.
	I'm going to end this.
	I'm going to...
	Present another screen.
	It's going to be the...
	Present.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if I can do this.
	Chrome tab.
	It's going to be this stream.
	This is going to work.
	This is actually...
	This is going to work.
	It's going to be stream and stream.
	Everybody watching the stream on the other channel now, we're doing an interview with Jeremy McKenzie's girlfriend.
	We'll see what the relationship is.
	I don't actually know the nature of it.
	And Morgan's gonna be, you know, there's a publication ban on the proceedings.
	The purpose here is to shed some light on Jeremy McKenzie's being detained and what's going on with him.
	And everybody else, you can come to your own conclusions, whether or not the bastard deserves it, because shouldn't have made that stupid comment.
	I'm gonna have to go pause this.
	Give me one more second.
	I need to pause.
	The hearing, just so that I don't hear it myself.
	Oh, I think I found a solution to all of this.
	Temporary people.
	Morgan, I'm going to bring you in.
	Get ready.
	Three, two, one.
	Okay, Morgan, how goes the battle?
	Oh, it's been interesting.
	We've never met before.
	We've spoken, not even spoken.
	Briefly, we've texted.
	So I know nothing of you.
	I know nothing of what's going on.
	I've just heard people reaching out, people making comments that Jeremy's been whisked away.
	Nobody or very few people have heard from him.
	And just tell us who you are.
	Tell us what's going on in the best of your understanding, subject to you're not a lawyer, you might misunderstand things.
	But what's going on?
	Yeah, so...
	So I am the queen of Diagilon, Jeremy's common-law partner.
	I'm trying to advocate for him at the moment.
	He was arrested in Nova Scotia on our property.
	That was September the 28th.
	He was isolated for five days in the central Nova Scotia facility, and then he was transported to Saskatoon, where he isolated for another five days at the Saskatoon Correctional Facility.
	Recently, he has been thrown back into, they call it a COVID assessment unit, which is somehow different than an SIU.
	Let me stop you actually there, if I may.
	Arrested in Nova Scotia.
	It's public.
	On what charges?
	Yeah, so I'll just read off the charges.
	This is to clarify that he has not been arrested or charged that you know of for the...
	No, and I'm not sure that that had any influence on his arrest, to be honest.
	I believe, from what it sounds like, the warrant was extended Canada-wide a couple weeks prior to those comments being made.
	So he was charged with one count of assault, pointing a firearm, using a restricted weapon in a careless manner, and mischief.
	Do you know when those charges were, the warrant was extended to Canada-wide.
	Do you know when those charges were issued and what they related to or what they relate to?
	Yeah, I'm just reading.
	I believe that the report started in March of this year, shortly after we were, Jeremy and I were both arrested for protesting near the chief medical health officer's home.
	Yeah, I think Jeremy talked about that on the stream, about a number of people protesting across the street, nobody, according to Jeremy, doing anything violent, whatever, and you guys were picked up and arrested.
	Right, yeah, it was a peaceful protest.
	Okay, so he's arrested in Nova Scotia, and what happens, to the best of your knowledge, after he's arrested in Nova Scotia?
	Yeah, so on Canada-wide warrants, the other provinces, from what I understand, they have six days to collect the inmates and transport them.
	So on day five, he was transported to Saskatoon, where he was kept in remand and remains in remand.
	And he had a bail hearing on October 7th.
	All I can say is that he was denied bail.
	Okay.
	When he was detained in Nova Scotia, do you know under what terms, what was it like?
	I don't want to put words in your mouth.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So because he is refusing the COVID-19 PCR or rapid testing, the genetic testing, he was in solitary confinement, not permitted showers or trips outside of his cell.
	I'm not even sure if that's legal, according to Bill.
	The C83 that was assented in 2019, it looks like they were supposed to get four hours out of their cell per day and two hours of meaningful human contact.
	Five days of that in Nova Scotia.
	And let me all play devil's advocate for a bit.
	The PCR test is the one that goes up your nose and touches your brain.
	Correct.
	The other one, did he have an option for an antigen test or a saliva test that you know of?
	No.
	And my understanding is that they are supposed to offer a non-invasive test.
	So in my opinion, this breaches the Genetic Non-Discrimination Act.
	And his concern is that the swabs are coated with the ethylene oxide, which is a known carcinogen.
	He's not opposed to testing.
	He would do a saliva test.
	Well, I don't know about the other act, but under the Quarantine Act itself, the test cannot be one that enters the person, which is why Chris Sky, back in the day.
	He says, when you get to the airport, according to him, I give no legal advice.
	Nor would I even give the advice he gave.
	But he said, you can refuse it because they're not allowed sticking something in your body.
	The spit test becomes a little bit, you know, I say harder to refuse.
	But I'm wondering now, they're using COVID from what you're saying.
	And this drives me nuts because this is another weaponization of COVID as an excuse to act inhumanely to even detained individuals.
	They say, do the PCR test or for safety.
	We're going to have to keep you in isolation because you may be infected or you may have become infected.
	Correct.
	And the problem is that anytime new inmates are coming into the facility, he will have to go back and do another five days in the COVID assessment unit.
	And it's a dry cell, so there is no toilet, no sink.
	Two 15-minute breaks per day out of his cell.
	And during that time, that's when he's supposed to use the washroom, shower, and make phone calls.
	One is during business hours.
	One of those breaks is outside of business hours.
	So it's making it difficult for him to advocate for himself.
	So he had five days of solitary in Nova Scotia.
	Let me just ask the question.
	How do you know?
	What does solitary mean?
	And what's he telling you when you get to speak with him?
	Yeah, so I have been able to speak with him, I believe, every day since he has been incarcerated.
	And what he's telling me is that when he's in solitary, I think he has, you know, it's a dry cell.
	Like I said, no shower, no sink.
	Doesn't have access to a Bible.
	He has a TV with one station.
	I believe it's CTV, which is essentially torture for him.
	I don't want to make light of anything, but yeah, that's the joke that needs to be made.
	And yeah, he's having a difficult time getting request forms, medical request forms, envelopes, things that he needs in order to file complaints.
	But in all honesty...
	He is supposed to advocate for himself, and he is having a difficult time due to the distress that he's under, given the conditions of...
	My belief is that they're trying to have him use the washroom in his cell so that they can charge him.
	I've heard that this is something that they do from other inmates.
	They're trying to get him to misbehave.
	And I know very little, and I know only...
	From recent discussions, but a dry cell, is that where they put people who they suspect have drugs hidden in them so that when they have to go dump or something that they'll find the drugs in their stool because they have no other place to go?
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure.
	I think they can throw them in there if they're under suicide watch as well.
	And I'm sure throwing someone in there who's not under suicide watch would not put them under suicide watch.
	Can I ask a question?
	I mean, when you say he's suffering mentally, and we're going to get into it because...
	That's the first five days.
	How does that materialize?
	Yeah, so I do hear him, when he calls me, when he's able to call me, he's under quite a bit of distress.
	I don't believe, you know, I don't think that he is suicidal.
	I just want to say that right now.
	If he dies in jail, he did not kill himself.
	Needs to be said.
	But he...
	He is so dehydrated and he's not sleeping and his anxiety attacks are so bad that he's getting sick.
	The nurse is not able to help him with that situation.
	And actually they've written, I made this public yesterday, they wrote on his chart that he is coming off of opioids, but they have done no drug tests, no blood tests.
	And so I'm not sure.
	He actually asked them, are you sure you have the right chart?
	And they read off his name.
	And said, yes, you're coming off of opioids.
	So I don't know what kind of narrative they're trying to set up in there, but it does seem like they're trying to break him.
	And Voluntarist Girl said he's abducted, but look, he's arrested, he has charges.
	The only issue is typically you get released on bail when you're not a flight risk, which Jeremy is clearly not for a number of reasons, one of which I would assume is vaccination status to leave the country.
	You need to show...
	Well, yeah, and I think he paid for two days to get his passport.
	Back in May, we paid the extra to have a two-day expedited passport.
	He's not denied a passport, but they haven't gotten back to him yet.
	Okay, so five days solitary, and then how do you find out that he's whisked off to Saskatchewan?
	I figured that it was coming, and so when I didn't hear from him, I assumed that's what had happened.
	And then the next time I spoke to him, he was in Saskatoon.
	And now he's on his third...
	I believe this is day five of his third COVID confinement.
	So...
	The problem is he can keep them in there.
	They can keep him in there indefinitely because as new inmates come in, this will happen each time.
	I'm going to Google something while you answer this question.
	What happens?
	What do you find out about his conditions in Saskatchewan once you find out he's been flown over there?
	Yeah, the conditions are worse in Saskatoon than they were in Burnside.
	I will say one thing about the central Nova Scotia facility is the food is excellent.
	They're good to work around.
	Diet issues, food sensitivities, and you get lots of fruits, vegetables.
	Now in Saskatoon, I believe it's a different company that they use, and so he's not getting fruit.
	The food is a gray paste that he's not sure what's in it.
	It's slop, essentially, and bread, peanut butter, crackers.
	Anything else?
	He can purchase food from the canteen, but it's mostly junk food, Mr. Noodles, chocolate bars, chips.
	I'm going to bring this up because at least it's been reported, so I'm not reporting it.
	I don't know the extent of the publication ban.
	I suspect it's details related to the trial, which we're not going to get into.
	The trial, sorry, the charges and the evidence.
	Diagon leader Jamie McKenzie, so he's denied bail in Saskatoon on October 7. Judge Bruce Bauer made the decision after a bail hearing was held Friday in a provincial court.
	A Nova Scotian man who identifies himself as the leader of an online alt-right group called Diagon has been denied bail while facing assault and gun charges stemming from an incident in rural Saskatchewan last year.
	And we discussed this.
	I'm fairly certain we discussed this during the stream.
	Mm-hmm, yeah.
	charges were out there and he knew that this story was coming because of what an ex-girlfriend says judge bruce bauer made the decision after a bail hearing on friday for mckenzie i just want to hear the reason a standard publication ban was ordered preventing the report of any details presented and arguments made during the hearing in order to preserve oh you know to protect mckenzie They got a report of an assault, yada, yada.
	Okay, so...
	This is public, harassing, intimidation.
	This stuff we've all covered.
	So, conditions in Saskatchewan.
	Solitary?
	Correct, yeah.
	Is he crying on the phone?
	Not crying as in pitiful.
	Is he a broken man?
	Yeah, it sounds more like panic attacks.
	Previously, during his first...
	Solitary.
	I guess it wasn't so solitary.
	But he was in the dry cell with one other person.
	So it wasn't as bad.
	Now that he's...
	Yeah, so that guy must have also refused testing.
	Now he...
	Yeah, he's just...
	Has no form of entertainment.
	And I was able to communicate with him via...
	They have tablets at that facility.
	It's quite expensive.
	Essentially, they extort you to speak to your loved ones.
	But it was a way that I could communicate with him and keep him distracted.
	And for some reason, that tablet, the signal is not working in his dry cell anymore.
	What are you doing to raise...
	I mean, there's going to be people out there who are going to say, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
	As if he's been convicted.
	And by the way, I'll say this for anybody out there.
	He could very well have already been convicted.
	Of the charges.
	This should still shock the conscience of anybody who considers themselves to be Canadian.
	But he's not even convicted yet.
	Yeah.
	The problem that this could happen to literally any Canadian, that's what I want to reiterate, and that he's not the only political prisoner at the moment.
	And you can be charged or accused of...
	Whatever.
	And thrown in jail.
	Denied bail.
	This literally could happen to you or your loved ones.
	And it should terrify all Canadians.
	Dry cell, from what you understand, solitary because he refuses to take the PCR test because, from what you understand, they're not offering the saliva option.
	Or the nasal swab, which is the rapid test that everybody does to cross the border.
	Who does he get to speak with?
	Visits?
	Stupid question to ask?
	He won't be permitted visits anymore because he could give someone the Rona.
	As if being vaccinated even has an effect now that we know that you can carry, transmit, and contract it anyhow.
	COVID has become the excuse.
	Absolutely.
	I'm shocked they didn't do this sooner because of the correctional officers coming in and out every day.
	Technically, he could get it from them.
	What are you doing?
	Let me ask another equally stupid question because I know the answer.
	I suspect CBC, Global News, legacy Canadian media has zero interest in what's being done to Jeremy behind bars?
	I think you'll be surprised.
	I have quite a few leftist reporters and some who flew to the bail hearing and they expected one thing.
	And I think they came out feeling a very different way, and they have gained quite a bit of interest in this story.
	They know that he is not being treated fairly, and so even though they don't agree with his politics, we have been receiving quite a bit of help, including help from, I want to say, Jeff Leo from CBC and Tammy Robert.
	I want to give her a special shout-out.
	She was terrified of Jeremy in the beginning, and now I think she's...
	Really starting to understand what he's fighting for, why he's in there, the fact that he's a decorated veteran who fought in Afghanistan for our rights, and that's why he's so passionate.
	And she does feel that he's being treated unfairly, and she's busting her ass to help him.
	And we do appreciate it.
	Morgan, do me a favor, after we're done here, flip me some of the links or tweets, although I'll go try to find them, but it'll facilitate it.
	We can amplify those.
	People don't understand.
	It's not to analogize this to anything, but just because they're not coming for you now, when they start doing this and getting away with it under the silence of a polite, uninterested, or malevolent society that thinks that this is justified, there is no limit to it.
	That's surprising.
	A little encouraging.
	Unfortunately, CBC had...
	They were given permission to go into the jail to execute a...
	They were going to do an interview.
	I assume now that will be revoked because he will be indefinitely kept in solitary.
	For science.
	What are you doing?
	I mean, look, so he's facing charges in Saskatchewan.
	Other legal issues are going to ask the...
	Indiscreet but obvious question.
	What are you doing for lawyers and how are you raising funds for this?
	Yeah, so Veterans for Freedom has been excellent and they set up a give, send, go for Jeremy.
	Unfortunately, we are going to have to increase the goal amount as the lawyer has taken on his charges in Quebec and Nova Scotia as well.
	And everything's happening so quickly that They need to get moving as soon as possible.
	And there are a lot of moving parts.
	It's a lot to get new lawyers caught up to speed.
	And for this Saskatoon charges alone, we're on lawyer number three.
	And I see you just sent me the Give, Send, Go campaign.
	So I'll link that for anybody who wants to...
	Thank you.
	At the risk of the government freezing bank accounts for people who donate because that's Canada now.
	You just said something about the lawyers.
	Oh, sorry.
	Have you noticed politics coming into play in terms of who is willing to take on this file?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And, you know, Jeremy's lawyer in Nova Scotia actually let us both go because of the comments that were made.
	It's amazing.
	O.J. Simpson had a lawyer.
	I want to say that because of this, I do feel, at least for my case, the judge seems to be sympathetic and not understanding.
	I fight for freedom, so I want the lawyer to have a choice.
	If he doesn't feel that he will properly represent us because he doesn't believe in our politics, then if they need to move on, I would like for them to let us know that sooner rather than later.
	And I do hope that he's properly represented and that the politics don't come into effect.
	And just to clarify in the chat, he's in Saskatchewan because the charges allegedly result from an alleged assault incident in Saskatchewan.
	It has nothing to do with the Pierre Poilievre comments, and that's why he was taken from Nova Scotia to Saskatchewan.
	Correct.
	I do feel this is uncommon.
	It's not common for...
	He actually spoke to another inmate who had a warrant from Quebec extended Canada-wide because he shot a man and they didn't bother to come pick him up.
	So I think it's very uncommon for someone with these types of charges to be escorted to another province.
	And I think that...
	Likely political pressure came into play there.
	They did it with Tamara Lich for breach of bail conditions.
	Of course they're going to do it for Jeremy.
	Right.
	It's an easier argument to make if you want to make it.
	I don't know.
	What are you doing?
	What's Jeremy doing?
	And what can people who are now watching this and maybe hearing it for the first time, what can they do to increase the spotlight, increase political pressure to maybe just treat Jeremy like a standard inmate or a human being?
	I think it's really key right now to reach out to the MLAs, the MPs, especially in Saskatoon, the Premier of Saskatoon.
	I'm not understanding.
	In Nova Scotia, he was granted bail.
	In Quebec, they have not extended his warrant.
	So why Saskatchewan?
	Why are they, you know...
	Why are they pushing for this?
	That's what I want to know.
	So if people can reach out, I am working on a letter to send that people can copy-paste and send out if they wish.
	I'm just not sure when that will be wrapped up.
	But I think just sharing his story and his treatment is key right now.
	I have started a complaint process with the ombudsman.
	He is supposed to...
	Advocate for himself with them as well.
	And he is supposed to have access to call them anytime he pleases.
	But because of the way he only gets out the two times a day, it's very difficult for him to make those phone calls.
	And it's a lot to wrap up in 10, 15 minutes.
	Okay.
	And Morgan, let me ask this question.
	How are you doing in all of this?
	Yeah.
	I'm supposed to be decorating for a Freedom Barn party.
	I'm very distracted.
	I'm not getting much sleep, but I will say I have a huge support system.
	I'm doing very well.
	I'm just trying to make sure that the proper people are contacted as soon as possible.
	My goal is just to get him better treatment ASAP.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for coming on.
	Like someone says in the chat here, let me just pull it up.
	And this is, you know, from my perspective, it's not that Morgan might be, you know, not that you might be lying.
	There might be intricacies, nuances that you might not understand in law, but if what you're saying is true, it needs to stop.
	It's not, Jeremy could be the worst person on earth.
	This is not what a justice system is about.
	And just bear in mind that these accusations relate to alleged assault, alleged Unlawful pointing of a firearm mischief from an incident that was a long time ago, if it ever occurred that there's a reason why people have trials, so that evidence allegations can be tested.
	And pre-trial detention on this, when someone is clearly not a flight risk, well, that's one issue.
	And then this type of detention, because I've heard this solitary for PCR refusal.
	It's inhumane.
	And so if it's true, it's inhumane.
	If it's true, it needs to stop.
	And maybe some actual journalists, I put that in quotes, we'll get on this.
	But Morgan, keep in touch.
	Let me know what's going on.
	Pop back on whenever you want.
	And thank you.
	And I say stay strong.
	But I don't know how people deal with this.
	I appreciate it.
	He's at least been given an opportunity, I'll say, to testify in the public inquiry on next Friday, I believe.
	That was one concern we had.
	We felt that he was being detained so that he would not be able to testify, but that has since changed.
	Is he going to be doing that virtually, I presume?
	Yes.
	They'll make sure he's got it.
	We'll see if he's got a connection for that.
	Okay.
	And I'll be watching that at the same time.
	So, Morgan, thank you.
	The world, you know.
	Fact check, verify, and it's...
	You watched Chief Slowly cry.
	We were watching the inquiry, and former Chief Slowly is crying about the Ottawa protests.
	Meanwhile, your significant other is in solitary, apparently, indefinitely for an extended period of time in pretrial detention.
	This is the new Canada, and it's not acceptable.
	Yeah.
	And if anyone, I know that this is very controversial.
	I'm an open book.
	If anyone ever has any questions, I'm pretty backed up on my messages, but I do eventually get back to you.
	And if there's any issues, I have no problem answering questions.
	Excellent.
	Thank you.
	We'll keep in touch.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Have a good day.
	All right.
	You too.
	Cheers.
	Bye-bye.
	It's outrageous.
	It's a Canada that...
	People are managing to find a way to continue to justify.
	No, Jeremy's a bad man.
	Shut your mouth and don't make stupid jokes and then this doesn't happen to you.
	Don't make bad tweets.
	I'm going to bring up the inquiry, bring it back in the second chat so people can go back and watch it or people who are still there can watch it.
	Okay.
	It's still there.
	Now, okay, I'm taking this off.
	At one o 'clock, we're going to have a representative of the Democracy Fund who's going to be testifying.
	They're involved in the inquiry.
	I don't want to mischaracterize who they are or what the organization is.
	It's the Democracy Fund which I interviewed.
	During the protest.
	And they want to talk about what's going on at the inquiry and give an update to the world.
	So we're going to do that.
	Raymond, thank you.
	Give, send, go, Jeremy McKenzie.
	Let me get that link while we're doing this.
	Donate at your own risks and peril, people.
	Justin Trudeau has set the standard for the new Canada.
	Don't like what someone gave?
	Don't like what someone funded?
	Freeze their bank accounts.
	Even if it's a federally incorporated not-for-profit.
	Imagine.
	The people who want to kill freedom, who want to kill civil society, they want to scare people out of talking about certain people just so they can be memory-holed and actually literally put in a hole.
	I see a chat which I'm not going to bring up, but you are 100% correct, whoever wrote it.
	GoFundDaryl.
	Who's Daryl?
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me get the link.
	Oh, Daryl.
	Okay, sorry.
	The funny thing is, well, I still think he's entitled.
	I'm going to pull a Jacob Rice from Give, Send, Go.
	Daryl is entitled to a defense in law.
	He's also entitled to be convicted and sentenced to life when it's quite clear that his defense is frivolous and abusive.
	But Daryl should be able to raise legal fees if anybody is twisted enough to actually donate.
	They should be free to donate.
	I'm going to say that certain people get to raise funds for their own criminal defense and others don't because I don't like the accusations or the conviction.
	That's not how it works.
	It's not how it can work, because it doesn't work like that forever.
	It, in fact, will only work like that for a finite period of time.
	This appears to be the link for Jeremy's Give, Send, Go, and I'll put it in the chat in Rumble as well.
	Well, that was interesting and just irritating.
	Okay, I had some super chats, which I missed.
	Corn Pop, is this live?
	Yes, Corn Pop, it's live.
	Welcome back.
	Good to see you again.
	Pop your finest bottle of booze, folks.
	Cheeto Jesus is coming back to Twitter.
	I'm ready for all the covfefe.
	My God, this is going to be entertaining.
	One of the few times where you can actually write the word God out, capital G, not in pencil.
	It may be one of the times where it might be.
	We're using the Lord's name in vain, if you believe in that.
	This might be one of those times.
	I haven't seen this.
	I'm going to pull this up in two seconds.
	Chris Weiner says, come on, folks, donate to the JCCF and humbly fight for your rights as Canadians.
	Viva, you're the best, but Keith Wilson is a badass mofo.
	I know what that stands for.
	Godspeed.
	Well, what I can't do in action, I can do by donation, and I gave what is substantial money yesterday to support them.
	Viva, I'm jealousy or flowy locks.
	Sydney Avery, thank you very much.
	We got a super sticker, Carlos Gaspar.
	And then we got Corn Pop.
	I'm being annoying.
	Corn Pop, you are always welcome in the chat.
	So that's that.
	Now, has it been confirmed that Trump is coming back?
	It's an interesting thing.
	If Trump comes back to Twitter, is he breaching any obligations that he would have with truth?
	If he comes back to Twitter, he's going to kill truth.
	Thank you.
	Okay, so I don't see anything that confirms that Trump is coming back.
	Is Donald Trump coming back to Twitter as the meltdown continues?
	And we'll take a gander through my Twitter feed because it is a straight-up juvenile meltdown of epic proportions.
	Is Donald Trump coming back to Twitter now that Elon Musk bought the company?
	This was two hours old.
	Musk indicated he would allow him back.
	Would be great to unwind permanent bans, says...
	Musk said, okay, fine.
	At a conference, I do not think it was correct to ban Trump.
	Fine.
	That's not the issue.
	The issue is not whether or not Musk is going to let Trump back.
	He will undoubtedly.
	The question is whether or not Trump would come back.
	Because I think that would pose some conflicts with truth.
	There was something...
	What did he say that was hilarious?
	He said...
	Musk said Twitter is now owned by an African-American.
	Trump is the truth troll.
	Will Trump remain exclusively on Truth Social?
	Trump has said he would not return even if invited.
	Musk also said he believes Trump will remain exclusively on Truth Social.
	But Trump has not gotten the same resonance from his Truth Social app.
	Arm seems to hurt.
	On Truth Social, Trump has 4.36 million followers, just 5% of those he had on Twitter.
	It's funny.
	Truth is fine.
	Gab...
	Oh, not Gab, the other one there.
	Definitely didn't mean Gab.
	What was the other one?
	Truth...
	Getter.
	Parler.
	But it's like, Twitter was the first.
	Twitter is the biggest.
	And people like to fight!
	That's what...
	I'll be honest.
	I'm always honest.
	I'm just gonna...
	I'll be blunt.
	I like the fight on Twitter.
	I don't want to sit around with people who already agree with me.
	I also want to know what my ideological opponents, adversaries are saying and thinking.
	Let me see if I can bring this up here.
	Just look at this.
	First of all, people, I made a meme, and it's epic.
	I'm not saying I'm trying to get Elon Musk to retweet a tweet of mine, but it is...
	The fun is in the pursuit.
	The fun is in the attempt.
	What could I add of value to Twitter that would actually garner a retweet from Elon Musk?
	I think this would be it.
	This should be it, people.
	So we all know this triggered face, and I don't know who she is.
	I remember she was a teacher telling someone to get off campus or something.
	Don't know what the context was.
	Don't know if the face on the left was angry in any event, but...
	I didn't know that there was this still of this raging, triggered individual where there was a picture that preceded it where she looked all nice and loving and tolerant.
	I mean, look, don't look at the picture on the right.
	You look like you have a very nice, soft-spoken, caring individual right there based on that picture alone.
	But my goodness, what a difference a nanosecond makes.
	The nice, tolerant leftist says, if you don't like censorship, you should build your own platform.
	Got a nice funny...
	Okay.
	I said...
	Okay, I'll do it.
	And now he owns it.
	I said build it, not buy it.
	I thought that was funny.
	I was LOLing to myself as that would happen.
	But let's just go through the Twitter feed.
	Because what we are having right now is a certified bona fide...
	Oh, gosh, that fish was the most beautiful fish ever.
	Okay.
	What we're having is a bona fide certified meltdown.
	I'll get to that one afterwards.
	Let's just take one here.
	Andy Siskind.
	I'm here through midterms to help mobilize the vote.
	After, if the man-child allows neo-Nazi and hate leaders back, I will keep an account here, but stop providing content.
	This drives him really crazy.
	I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
	You can find my...
	Oh, by the way, I'm not going to delete my account because that would be commitment because I've got 560,000 followers on Twitter.
	You think I believe in anything enough to actually delete my account?
	Oh, no.
	I'll stay here for now to mobilize.
	But if the man...
	Who's the man-child?
	Who's the man-child?
	Twitter?
	Musk?
	If he allows neo-Nazis, who's anybody I disagree with, and hate back...
	Hate leaders back.
	I will keep an account.
	I'm not going to piss away my 560,000 followers.
	That has value.
	To delete my account would actually be to vote with my feet.
	But I'll stop providing content.
	This drives them really crazy.
	I don't know what the hell she's talking about.
	Oh, by the way, no, that was it.
	They literally, literally need a safe spot.
	I mean, I know she's saying, it's a safe...
	I've already lost thousands of followers who have fled the platform.
	And hundreds have migrated to Facebook, it appears.
	Safe spot for now until a better option...
	Have you seen what's on Facebook, you buffoon?
	Do you know what's on Facebook?
	Oh, and by the way, you're only leaving Twitter now because they might let Trump back?
	Do you know what's on Twitter?
	There's some of those vile, offensive crap that has been on Twitter running ads under it.
	Oh, no, no, but bring back Trump.
	No, no.
	Hardcore porno.
	Grooming.
	That's fine.
	That doesn't bother Amy Siskin.
	Let me see what the profile says.
	It's got to be something loving.
	Activist and author.
	Okay.
	At least it's straightforward.
	There's no profile bio that's loving in thought.
	Tolerates all people.
	Does Amy Siskin not know what's on Facebook?
	Does she not know that Some of the most violent organizations have groups on Facebook, on Twitter.
	That there's some of the most obscene sexual content on Twitter.
	Some of the most violent video content imaginable, conceivable on Twitter.
	No.
	Now she's taking a stand for morality.
	But she's not enough of a stand to actually delete her account.
	What was the other one?
	Oh, look at this.
	This is funny.
	This is funny, by the way.
	Pays to have a memory?
	It also pays to just know what to think about looking for when you want to prove someone to be a rampant hypocrite.
	Robert Reich had a good one.
	Let me just screen grab a chat.
	Not screen grab, but rather flag a chat here.
	When multi-billionaires take control of our most vital platforms for communication, it's not a win for free speech.
	It's a win for oligarchy.
	That's amazing.
	Did you complain when Jeff Bezos bought WAPO?
	I mean, this guy does complain about how much Jeff Bezos makes.
	He complains about that a lot.
	Did he complain about it when Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post?
	No!
	He didn't complain about that.
	He complained about other stuff.
	But look at this.
	This is just what's funny.
	This is from April 26th.
	The first time that I can tell in his timeline that he ever complained about individuals owning social media.
	Until then, his biggest problem with Jeff Bezos was how much he made, not the fact that he controlled a national newspaper.
	Robert Reich, R.B. Reich.
	Zuckerberg owns Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp.
	And I've never complained about him before this tweet.
	About the ownership, the monopoly.
	Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post.
	When multi-billionaires take control of our most vital platforms for communication, it's not a win for free speech.
	It's a win for oligarchy.
	April 26, 2022.
	Got a lot of retweets.
	55,000 retweets.
	4,000 quote tweets.
	250,000 likes.
	Hook it up to my veins, people.
	Zuckerberg owns Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp.
	Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post.
	Elon Musk owns Twitter.
	When multi-billionaires take control of our most vital platforms for communication, it's not a win for free speech.
	It's a win for oligarchy.
	October 15, 2022.
	I mean, the bots might be the blue check marks.
	I mean, is this not robotic?
	There's not one word that's different.
	I mean, it worked so well the first time, got to do it a second time.
	But try to find in Robert Reich's timeline, if he ever complained before Musk got involved in taking over Twitter, if he ever complained about Facebook being under the control of one person, about...
	Washington Post being under the control of one person.
	He's complained about Big Corp not paying their fair share.
	Dude's worth 10 million bucks or something, but how much is Rob Reichworth worth?
	He's complained about other issues, but never about the oligarchy ownership of social media until Musk came into the picture.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Okay.
	Then, let's just see who else is having a meltdown.
	Eric Fagelding.
	I'm not making fun of a name.
	Don't anyone accuse me of making fun of a name.
	He's got a...
	In high school, my last name was Freyheit.
	Freeheat.
	I got made fun of as well.
	Fagelding.
	I mean, you could be a child and, you know, whatever.
	Fagelding, for anybody who doesn't know, is not just...
	I mean, the most outrageous misinformation you can imagine.
	And I've got hard receipts.
	Epidemiologist.
	Health economist.
	Health policy.
	Cancer prevention.
	Co-founder of the WHN.
	Former 16 years Harvard.
	COVID updates from January 20. Elon Musk is now in charge of Twitter.
	CEO and CFO have left and will not return.
	They didn't leave.
	They were fired.
	From what we understand.
	Terminated.
	They didn't leave.
	But they're going to get 30 million bucks each or whatever.
	Twitter will be delisted from New York Stock Exchange tomorrow.
	It's now a private domain of one all-powerful person.
	God save Twitter and humanity.
	This would be an example where you do not use the Lord's name in vain, Eric Fagelding, although I doubt you believe in God.
	God save Twitter and humanity?
	You pathetic loser.
	To think that God cares about a social media app.
	You pathetic loser to bless the survival of humanity on the fact that a social media app that you have been using, Eric Fagelding, Dr. Eric Ding, for the last two years to spread the most insidious fear porn disinformation you are praying to God to save humanity from Twitter?
	Oh my goodness.
	But don't take my word for it, people.
	I do not make bold accusations without having hard evidence.
	This is political disinformation that Fagelding was talking about in Rittenhouse.
	This was just one of many.
	This is after he called the judge a racist, by the way, because the judge made the ordering Asian food for lunch joke or comment.
	The same judge blocks the prosecution from calling Rittenhouse's murdered gunshot victims as victims.
	By the way, they weren't murdered.
	Because murdered under the law means the unlawful killing of another human.
	Self-defense, but bygones.
	Can't call the people that were assaulting Rittenhouse and from whom he had to use lethal force to defend his own life.
	Can't call them victims because they weren't, but they were victims of their own stupidity.
	But calling them arsonists, looters, and rioters is okay.
	The same judge blocks the prosecution for calling Rittenhouse's murdered gunshot victims as victims, but calling them arsonist looters and rioters is okay.
	Yeah, because they were arsonist looters and rioters, Fagelding.
	Political misinformation.
	Let's go to some medical misinformation.
	And by the way, I'm not the only one that picked up on Fagelding's medical misinformation problem.
	This is a Fagelding tweet.
	I'm sick.
	I am sick and tired of idiots saying we don't need to protect kids.
	Oh, we need to protect kids.
	From certain people and from government abuse.
	If a classroom...
	He's doing math here, peeps.
	Listen to this.
	If a classroom of 30 kids get COVID without masks, then statistically, give or take four, will suffer long COVID.
	That is not okay.
	I am so damn mad.
	Join me and Peter Hotez to talk about whatever...
	If 30 kids get COVID without masks, are you suggesting here, I don't even know what you're suggesting without masks, as though with masks would prevent kids from getting COVID in classrooms?
	Especially the way the filthy kids wear masks?
	Especially the way filthy kids with no sense of responsibility treat masks?
	Set that aside.
	The kids will pull down their masks to pick their nose.
	They're going to pull down their masks to chew off the erasers on the end of their pencils.
	Whatever.
	If 30 kids get COVID, then statistically four will suffer long COVID?
	Let me do some quick math.
	That's about 12% of COVID infections, according to Fagel Ding, that result in long COVID.
	That's misinformation fear porn.
	When was it?
	When was this tweet from?
	This is a recent tweet.
	It's January.
	It's February of this year.
	Won't someone think of the children?
	That's one.
	Misinformation.
	Here's another one.
	I had to listen to the clip.
	He says it.
	We know that with Omicron, it's actually more severe in children than in adults.
	Also February.
	This is Dr. Fagelding.
	Melting down now because Twitter's in the hands of one man who's going to protect.
	You know who Musk should be protecting us from?
	You, Fagelding.
	God help us all and God save humanity.
	Use of God's name.
	Use of God's name.
	Let's see what's going on here.
	Check out my YouTube live chat, someone says.
	Let's see what's going on in the YouTube live chat.
	I get nervous immediately.
	What's going on in the YouTube live chat?
	Is there...
	Is there a problem in the live chat?
	Well, while I'm here, heart tackle, thanks for all you do.
	I am melting.
	LOL, thanks for all you do.
	Heart tackle, thank you very much.
	Let me go back and see what the deal was.
	What was the problem in the chat in YouTube?
	I got nervous?
	Like, have to, what's the word?
	Understand the way I react when I think there's something immediately devastatingly wrong?
	Take a deep breath.
	Know that it's probably not the case.
	And it looks okay.
	Okay.
	Let's bring out that.
	What is this?
	Okay.
	Oh, my good God.
	Now I understand what's happening.
	I've been live on this one.
	I'm sorry, people.
	Sorry.
	Now I understand.
	I've been live talking over the hearing on the second channel.
	That could be irritating.
	Whoops.
	Okay, so that's funny, but that's not a big deal.
	No crisis, no emergency, just me being an idiot because I'm an idiot.
	I've been, for anyone who doesn't understand, you're watching on the main channel and on Rumble.
	I have been, you've been seeing this, me ranting and raving over the inquiry in the other one because I was sharing the screen with my own face there.
	Okay.
	Sorry about that, everybody.
	Well, you should have been on Rumble in the first place.
	I guess that wouldn't have been an issue on Rumble, was it?
	It was an issue on Rumble as well.
	Okay.
	Let it become a meme.
	I'm an idiot.
	Quote, Viva Frye.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No, I'm not.
	Okay, the video's off there.
	The video's off there.
	Okay, now I see the...
	I see the numbers going back up slightly on the second stream.
	All right.
	Do we have any more meltdowns on the Twitterverse?
	I think we do.
	Ten minutes.
	Do we go?
	Look at this.
	The gates of hell opened.
	That's a headline on Fox News, but they're quoting other people.
	Okay, you know, we've only got 10 minutes before our guest comes on.
	Do I do one story here, then we're going to wind it up and go over to Rumble.
	Holy crap, we've been going for two hours live, and we're going to go over to bring the exclusive interview over to Rumble.
	I listen to Angels and Airwaves.
	I listen to Angels and Airwaves.
	I love Angels and Airwaves.
	I've been listening to Lifeforms, their newest album.
	I mean, I haven't gotten sick of it yet.
	Like, you listen to it every time I get in the car, I listen to it.
	I love it.
	I wake up in the middle of the night because I got that stupid song running in my head, just anything.
	I have the lyrics to Angels and Airwaves songs in my head in the night.
	I love Blink-182.
	I know some people don't like it.
	I do.
	I've been watching Tom DeLonge's Descent into Madness on Twitter for a little while now.
	I would love to have the discussion with Tom because everything on Twitter is a jab.
	Everything reads like a snide, in-your-face, needle, sass.
	He's, in my view, either personally, emotionally tied to the conflict in Ukraine or not.
	But for whatever reason, I think he's swallowed the MSM Kool-Aid about the Ukraine-Russia war narrative.
	So I've been following that.
	And every now and again, he has another bad take on things.
	It's just like, you see people grow, you see people evolve, and then at some point, even with loved ones and friends, you see them start to drink the Kool-Aid, believe the Kool-Aid.
	And this was about a tweet.
	I hope I didn't get blocked yet.
	Oh, this is about supporting the block on Ye, on Kanye.
	We're going to go down the Twitter timeline here.
	Avid Trump supporter, Kanye, knows exactly what Trump is doing.
	Seth Abramson.
	Let's just go all the way back.
	New York Times, best-selling author.
	And look at his...
	So by the way, this is the origin of the Ukraine flag.
	Skies of blue, fields of wheat, yellow.
	Historically.
	Abramson.
	Seth Abramson.
	New York Times, best-selling author, attorney, journalist, poet, PhD, political historian.
	Anal analyses.
	CNN, BBC, CBS, Washington Post.
	Well, that says everything you need to know.
	Okay, so Seth Abramson tweets out.
	I'm going to sneeze.
	No.
	Admit Trump supporter Kanye West.
	Kanye knows exactly what Trump is doing.
	He would praise Hitler by saying how incredible it was that he was able to accumulate so much power.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Tom DeLonge.
	I love his music.
	I'm trying to help him on social media.
	Remember when the Nazis created industrialized murder?
	An insane group of individuals that were full of evil, no celebration, period.
	This is in respect of Kanye, who apparently is now, you know, being canceled because Kanye has allegedly praised Hitler.
	It's amazing how when it's time to cancel someone, go dig up something and accuse them of having praised Hitler.
	I mean, imagine you go to the History Channel and they talk about the German army, the Luftwaffe.
	The U-boat wars.
	Imagine now, if you actually historically assess the efficiency of the German Nazi war machine, is that praising Hitler?
	If you say that, you know, but for a few turn of events, Germany, a radically smaller nation with a radically smaller military than 100 million Russians, England, France, America, almost won the war because of the prowess of their military.
	Is that praising Hitler?
	But who knows?
	Become politically unpopular, the History Channel might be accused of praising Hitler.
	And so I just want to help people that I care about.
	I care about their art and I love the music.
	Tom DeLonge's social media...
	What's the word?
	Not regressions.
	His social media mistakes are not enough that I should hate his art.
	Roman Polanski?
	That might be a different kettle of fish.
	Everything about Kanye is an anonymous source.
	This is from CNN.
	The former executive who said that Kanye praised Hitler asked not to be named due to confidentiality agreement and fear of retribution by West about his comments.
	And another one!
	Look at this one.
	This individual, another one, stated that people in West's inner circle were fully aware of his interest in Hitler.
	This anonymous individual who doesn't want to be named is now testifying to what other people in Kanye West's inner circle were fully aware of.
	Four sources told CNN that West had originally suggested that the title Hitler for his 2018 album that eventually released as yay.
	They did not want to be named, citing concern for professional retribution.
	Yeah.
	It's a funny thing how potentially lying about very material stuff might have retribution.
	It's funny how when you put your name to a statement, people can actually go ask for receipts, go check.
	Okay, let's do this now.
	It's been way long on YouTube, and that's just because I started an hour early by accident.
	Let us mosey on over to the RumbleMobile, shall we?
	Let's see here.
	I apologize to everyone again in the chat on the other one.
	Let's mosey on over to Rumble.
	When we get our Democracy Fund guest in, the interview will be exclusively there for now and to be posted to YouTube secondarily.
	Let me see what's going on in the chat.
	Oh, man.
	Okay, so you all have the link.
	Here it is.
	A has full autonomy to deny publicly these claims of his beliefs.
	Well, Dan Smith...
	He has full autonomy, but he doesn't have a full obligation to run around denying the most random accusations ever.
	This is sort of...
	Dan Smith, I don't know if you're...
	I'm not sure of your intentions with this, but set that aside.
	I'll presume that this is a sincere comment.
	Part of the whole strategy of trolls and lies and accusations is that they make them...
	You can never adequately defend against them no matter what you say because they will try to harp on one statement that you make in denying them to then go after you for another thing.
	That's one aspect of the disingenuous accusations to compel a public disavowal.
	The other aspect of it is they want to distract you from doing what you're doing.
	So they come up with these baseless, idiotic accusations.
	Things that you can't...
	How are you supposed to deny...
	How are you supposed to prove a negative?
	I never made those statements.
	Prove it.
	Oh, okay.
	I win.
	Checkmate, biatch.
	Yeah.
	So, no, that's not how it works.
	It's not, you're free to defend yourself.
	No, you want to make a bold accusation that goes to the core of the integrity of a human and call them a racist and anti-Semite, a genocidal forgiver?
	You come with the receipts, and you sure as hell don't do it anonymously.
	And if you do it anonymously, you better have the receipts nonetheless, not some CNN garbage.
	Publishing it anonymously, sources who don't want to be named, and we've got nothing else other than these sources citing people from the inner circles of Kanye.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, that's not how it works.
	All right.
	With that said, two hours in.
	Ending it on YouTube.
	And we're going to talk some vaccine stories and whatever else I have in the backdrop.
	I forget.
	Ending on YouTube.
	Removing now.
	I will see you all in 3-2-1 on the Rumbles now.
	You want to know how unprepared I was?
	I'm still wearing the same shirt that I was wearing yesterday.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, so we've got that.
	Let me just see if...
	Video monetization.
	Let's just refresh.
	I've used bad words.
	Surely this has to be yellowed.
	Look at that.
	Still green.
	All right.
	That window's good.
	This window is better.
	Okay, there we go.
	We got that.
	Emergencies inquiry.
	That is on.
	YouTube, I can close that window down.
	Don't want to make a mistake here.
	Closed.
	This is the Emergencies Act Inquiry Stream Live.
	This is my Twitter feed.
	And this is...
	This is...
	Now we're live on Rumble.
	Letanyi.
	Says Viva, you can't really prove a made-up claim, but if you have knowledge of the person who made the claim, you can pick them apart.
	True.
	Latanya, now dig this.
	If you expose the person who you think made the claim, well, oh, you've denied the claim.
	Now you've doxxed an individual.
	Now you've sicked your 50 million followers on an individual.
	Now they get to sue you for intentional infliction of emotional distress.
	See, like, you never win the war with the troll.
	That's why they say don't feed the trolls, because you'll never win the war with them.
	You know what's amazing?
	I want to get the quote.
	It's Winston Churchill.
	Don't get into a fight with an idiot.
	They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
	Let me just do this.
	Don't fight with an idiot.
	It's a great quote.
	They will lower you, beat experience.
	Let me just get the exact quote.
	Never argue with stupid people.
	They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
	It's so freaking good.
	I mean, this is about trolls.
	They will drag you down to their level and they will beat you.
	If you're an honest person who speaks the truth, you're not used to playing the games that dishonest liars of trolls play.
	And so they will drag you down to their level, and they will beat you because they have more experience at being dishonest than you do.
	If you can easily prove it, go ahead.
	But my goodness, if you think you're going to win that battle, what will happen will happen.
	They will get you on another accusation.
	Doxing, intentional infliction of emotional distress, etc., etc., etc.
	The Emergencies Act Commission, is it still going on?
	Because I see my guest, but I'm going to have the same problem with the...
	With the audio, they are still going.
	My goodness, when are they going to break for lunch?
	All right, people, I'm going to do it again, the same thing that we did the last time.
	I'm going to put it on pause.
	They're going to go for lunch in a few minutes anyhow, so we're not going to miss much.
	I don't want to keep my guests waiting because they're actually hardworking individuals.
	Okay, I'm going to do it.
	Give me a second.
	Let me just do this again.
	So if you want to watch the next 15 minutes, go to another channel, but you're probably going to want to see this anyhow.
	Okay, we're going to go here.
	I'm going to remember to everybody who's watching on the stream, I'm going to pause it, remove it, and share the screen for our guest.
	Give me one second.
	I'm going to go back to the stream yard here.
	Yeah, we got Viva Inception.
	Okay.
	This might not work.
	Stop screen.
	Give me one second and let's figure out how this works.
	Chrome tab.
	Oh, now I see the problem.
	The first one?
	No, I did it again.
	It's going to be the second one.
	Thank you.
	Okay, this looks good.
	And now in this stream...
	Mark, get ready.
	I'm going to bring you in.
	We're going to have our second guest of the day, Democracy Fund, to explain what they're doing, what's going on in the world.
	I actually know very little.
	Hopefully I can conduct something reasonably coherent of an interview.
	Mark, you might have to help me out.
	Coming in, in three, two, one.
	Mark, sir, how goes the battle?
	Good.
	Thanks for having me, David.
	Well, my pleasure.
	Now, I don't know that we met during the protest.
	If we did, I don't remember.
	But I remember meeting with the Democracy Fund, Jessica, and a couple of others.
	And was it with them where we were walking around, and I thought they were somebody else, and then we were walking around to do an interview, but I totally forgot who they were.
	That might be the same experience.
	But Mark, sorry, I'm rambling.
	Who are you, what are you doing, and what's going on?
	So, well, yeah, thanks again for having me, David.
	So, I'm with the Democracy Fund.
	So, we're a civil society organization, and we were granted joint status to attend the commission.
	And I think you've met some of my fellow lawyers, Adam Blake-Gallupo.
	I think you met at the protest itself.
	And then Alan Hauner, who's our litigation director, is actually at the commission right now, but we're subbing in and out.
	So we get a chance to cross-examine the witness.
	Witnesses come up, and we're putting forth our position, which was that the emergency declaration was improperly made.
	Excellent.
	And so which party to the inquiry do you represent specifically?
	So we don't represent a party.
	We represent just the Democracy Fund together with the JCCF and the other freedom organizations.
	There's three of us, and that means we get a chance to cross-examine witnesses, but we don't actually represent one of the parties giving testimony.
	So this is like an amici in the context of the inquiry.
	That's right, yeah.
	Okay, very cool.
	So how does it work in terms of timing for cross-examination?
	You're working with JCCF.
	Are you allotted a very minimal time for cross-examination of the parties, of the actual witnesses of parties?
	You've been watching, so you see how it goes along.
	There's not a lot of time.
	They have to do it, I think, in six weeks.
	So we have, you know, standing with three of us, and that means we each get to go sort of in one slot.
	We don't get to go one after another.
	We've been up a few times, and then our partners get to go up, and it has to move quickly.
	We only give it five minutes, so we have to be very pointed in our questions.
	All right, now people in the chat on the other side are asking, what does TDF stand for?
	It stands for the Democracy Fund.
	Explain what the fund is, what it does when it's not involved in these inquiries.
	So we help people who have had their civil liberties infringed in Canada.
	We educate people on their civil rights and we try to alleviate poverty where we can.
	So obviously we're more busy now because, you know...
	I think probably your audience would agree that Canada is moving in the wrong direction on civil liberties.
	So we're involved in our ICANN tickets, gathering tickets, masking tickets.
	We're helping the students at Western University appeal the booster mandate that just came down.
	And so anyone who's experienced those sort of pandemic-related civil liberties violations, we're trying to get out there and help.
	Okay, that's fantastic.
	So you're actively involved in litigation, just not in the inquiry as far as parties are concerned.
	For those who don't know, Western, Western Ontario, a university in Ontario, one of the best or most reputable universities in Canada mandated the booster for returning students.
	Mandated the booster for returning students of that demographic that are most likely to suffer very serious potential adverse effects.
	Who's suing?
	Who's taking that to court?
	And what's the status of that now?
	Okay, so this just doesn't involve just students who are unvaccinated, obviously.
	These are now the students who are vaccinated have been told that to attend campus, they have to be boosted.
	And so that obviously implicated a lot more people who might have been on the sidelines.
	We took the position that the booster mandate falls afoul of the Privacy Act legislation in Ontario.
	And so we took that to trial.
	Unfortunately, we lost, but we're appealing that to the Ontario Court of Appeal.
	So we'll hopefully get heard shortly.
	Western has put off the enforcement of that booster mandate, I think, till January 1st.
	So there's...
	There's a little bit of time before, ostensibly, they're going to get into enforcement with that.
	But we'll see what happens.
	That's outrageous.
	That's outrageous.
	It's so shocking.
	Are parents...
	Who supports this?
	How was the decision made and who supports it?
	You know what?
	It's speculation at this point.
	I know there was a lot of pushback from parents and students, like I said, who were vaccinated.
	But I think I've had enough.
	That's what we're hearing.
	We've put out the call.
	We've put out the bat signal that if we can assist anyone, we can.
	We've got a lot of response.
	As to who supports it, some of the faculty, I'm told, do.
	Obviously, the administration does.
	Other than that, your guess is as good as mine, David.
	Okay, interesting.
	And some of the other tickets and stuff, anything interesting that you'd want to mention if you had a...
	Once you have a bullhorn?
	Well, I mean, we represent clients charged criminally for conduct arising out of the protest about, I think, 2023 or so.
	And I just note that all of those have been charged with mischief and or breach of court order.
	So there's been a lot of talk in the commission about violence, and none of our clients were charged with any violent conduct.
	And I think that's noteworthy because, as you probably understand on the test, the Emergencies Act, there has to be use of serious violence or the threats of use of serious violence.
	So that evidence has been thin on the ground.
	And I can just tell you, for the clients we represent, they're charged with mischief, which is not a violent charge.
	Charged with mischief resulting from?
	The protest.
	Arising out of events.
	We've seen who was charged with mischief.
	You had Tamara Lich who did diddly squat of violence except, say, hold the line while she was getting arrested.
	Who else mischief?
	Pat King.
	Even Pat King, the most notorious name there, committed no act of violence that we know of during the protest?
	Look, I don't know exactly what the...
	Organizers were charged with, but I don't believe it was violent conduct.
	Someone have to check me on that.
	I'm fairly certain it was mischief.
	It was perjury that they got him on from his bail hearing.
	Incitements to...
	There was no act of violence that even Pat King was charged with.
	So you're sitting at this hearing now, this inquiry.
	You're going to be there day in and day out for the two months of the inquiry.
	Yeah, one of us will be, yeah.
	May I ask a stupid question?
	Do you live in Ottawa?
	I don't.
	Our litigation director, Alan, is traveling up there to and fro.
	And I think I'm going up shortly.
	So yeah, and then Adam Blake-Galipo will also join.
	And the overall impression of how this is going?
	Does Judge Rouleau, do you get the impression?
	I mean, I asked this to Keith Wilson.
	It was yesterday or the day before.
	But do you get the impression that the judge knows where things are at?
	Well, he's a court of appeal judge.
	A smart, articulate gentleman who has been very fair, I think, with the participants.
	He lets them go on a little bit longer if they're over time.
	He hasn't really dropped the hammer on anyone, I don't think.
	I have no idea, you know, what his findings will be.
	Obviously, we're only, you know, a little ways into it.
	We've only heard the government and the, you know, police mostly, as well as some community members.
	But he's been very fair, and I anticipate, you know, he'll be fair going forward.
	People were asking, and I don't think I've misunderstood this, but I'll just check myself.
	The ultimate result of this hearing, it's going to be a report, recommendations, findings.
	There's no power of the judge or the commission to issue any monetary sanctions, certainly no other types of sanctions.
	So it's strictly going to be an assessment, findings, and recommendations, and maybe some, not verbal reprimands, but no other form of sanction.
	That's correct.
	I mean, it's a typically Canadian exercise.
	We go into this fact-finding mode and we turn over every rock and stone.
	At the end of it, you know, nothing can happen.
	I mean, he'll make recommendations, I assume, and then the government can take it or leave it, I think.
	There's no power to compel the government to do anything, I believe.
	And because my understanding is it's sort of like the...
	Conflict of Interests Act where it comes to it that even that has some monetary sanctions but by and large its recommendations may be a reprimand and then it's supposed to be a political solution above all else.
	That's right.
	Yeah, I understand that Mr. Singh came out and said well even if the findings are adverse to the government he'll still support it I believe.
	Yeah, I would expect nothing less from turncoat Jagmeet.
	All right.
	And so, by the way, is the Democracy Fund not-for-profit or what type of organization?
	That's right.
	So, we're a non-profit civil society organization.
	If you want to support us, you can.
	We issue charitable receipts.
	You can find us at thedemocraciesfund.ca slash commission or on Twitter at tdf underscore can.
	And now, what are the names of your lawyers who are conducting examinations across so we know to identify them?
	So Alan Hauner, he'll be there doing most of the cross.
	He's our litigation director.
	And then Adam Blake-Gallupo as well.
	He's another lawyer.
	And then myself, I'm senior litigation counsel.
	So we'll rotate, but it mostly will be Alan.
	All right.
	Very cool.
	Anything else while you're here that you want to mention to the world?
	You know what?
	I probably had a lot of statements lined up, but I could all...
	Disappeared in the live streams.
	Well, let me ask you this, and we'll go over some of the testimony.
	Are you watching slowly today?
	I am, yes.
	So, as a matter of fact, or just, you know, as it happened, why did slowly get booted?
	How did he get booted?
	Whose decision was it?
	And what were the reasons given at the time?
	You know, I wish I knew.
	So far, we've just heard about some of the conflict.
	He was asking for resources, I believe.
	And I think the OPS may have been caught off guard with respect to the size of the protest.
	And then the OPP had to be brought in, obviously.
	And then they had to coordinate between themselves and put in requests for further resources.
	And I think somewhere in there, the communication lines got crossed.
	Maybe there was jurisdictional disputes.
	I'm not sure.
	And slowly, I think, you know, bore the brunt of that.
	Obviously, he was the guy in charge, and then they brought in, I think, Chief Bell.
	But it's very confused.
	I'm not an expert on why he was not going.
	Now, I'll ask this at the risk of you not knowing.
	What is the basis for any of the alleged racial components to any of this?
	I never knew slowly until I saw him or heard these accusations.
	I never knew, never thought to even ask.
	Never thought about, It being an issue.
	Never knew that he was black or mixed race.
	Never knew it.
	What facts are there on the ground?
	What story is there that lend any credence to the suggestion that occurred early on in this inquiry that race or racial identity had anything to do with his treatment?
	You know what?
	I don't know, and I would hesitate to speculate.
	We were there on the ground.
	We were in the crowd.
	And I know the crowd was certainly multiracial.
	People from all sorts of backgrounds and working class, middle class families.
	And then I didn't even realize Chief Slully was racialized.
	And now we're hearing about accusations.
	So I don't know how to fit those in to my worldview.
	It's not that I don't see these things, but I didn't even know because you hear names and you, by and large, don't even see photographs.
	I was just shocked when that came up.
	I was like, Chief Slowly is black.
	I didn't even know it for that to be a thought from anybody, but it came from the government side.
	What was another question I had?
	Highlight of your time thus far at the inquiry.
	The most damning, if you have one, two, or three moments thus far.
	I think the crosses by Alan Hauner of TDF and Brendan Miller for the convoy organizers have been excellent in pulling out pertinent dispositive information with respect to the national security threats and I think the misinformation, disinformation that Superintendent Morris...
	He was careful in his words, but he seemed to intimate that some of that misinformation and disinformation was coming from politicians and the mainstream media.
	Now, you want to be careful and you want to go back and double-check that testimony.
	That, for me, was pretty shocking because we're always being told that, you know, these people are authoritative sources.
	And it turns out that even in some of the testimony from the government officials, they were misinformed.
	That became evident.
	No shit.
	If they're listening to the CBC, they think this is a massive Ku Klux Klan meeting in downtown Ottawa.
	Yeah.
	Look, I don't know where they got their information, but you were there.
	I was there.
	It just wasn't as portrayed by the mainstream media.
	Superintendent Morris, I think, brought that out.
	He's the, I think, ranking provincial intelligence officer for the police forces.
	So that was interesting to hear.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	Okay, now I'll really give it to you.
	Last one, if there's anything you want to mention before you leave.
	And everyone's going to continue watching.
	But what do you want to say?
	Should people be discouraged or should they be optimistic that there's going to be a proper resolution to this absolute government overreach?
	Well, look, I like to remain hopeful.
	The lawyers so far have been excellent.
	The testimony has been revealing.
	Like I said, we've only heard one side.
	We haven't heard the convoy organizers.
	Remember, they're going to be cross-examined too.
	So they're going to be put on blast as well.
	And I'm sure the government's going to pull back some points.
	But the evidence for serious violence...
	Supporting the declaration of a national emergency, I think, has been thin on the ground.
	And I think Commissioner Rouleau mentioned that the, I think, during one testimony, the end of the testimony of Sub-Jendent Morris was, well, the government's under pressure now.
	So I probably agree.
	Sorry, if I just made a face because I accidentally just kicked my dog under the table.
	Stupid dog just sits on my, like, near my feet.
	Okay, good.
	Well, we're going to continue watching.
	So we might see you, or we will see you again, cross-examining live.
	Great.
	All right, we'll get ready for the scrutinizing eyes of the interwebs.
	Mark, thank you very much for coming on.
	Thanks for having me.
	All right, have a good day.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay, that's cool.
	The Democracy Fund.
	Oh, yeah.
	The cross-examinations of the convoy, they will score some points because they're going to pull up some emails where...
	People from the convoy were talking about blocking traffic, creating havoc.
	Okay.
	And we're going to go back to here.
	I think we're probably on break.
	Oh, I didn't have to do that.
	I could have just left it play.
	I'm such an idiot.
	Okay.
	We are back to having the screen up on the second stream.
	I'm going to go take my screen out and remember to do it this time and mute myself.
	And now we're going to go back to the mainstream.
	Okay, that was cool.
	Democracy Fund, they're up to good as well.
	So you have your fighters for freedom.
	Or as other people like to say, freedom fighters.
	Wait, get over here.
	Get over here.
	Oh, boy.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't mean that.
	You shouldn't be under the table.
	Thank you.
	Okay, back down and you go.
	All right.
	I'm not forgetting the stories today.
	We've done the Canadian side.
	We've done the Freedom Convoy.
	We've done the Canadian side.
	We're going to cover just a couple of stories before we go for the day, which we're going to go because this has been a long time.
	Hold on.
	Streamyard.
	Good stream.
	Okay.
	On the subject of the Rona, did I get everything that I wanted to get?
	On the Twitter.
	Meltdown.
	Okay.
	Speaking of the Rona.
	So, if you haven't seen the news, certain statistics are going to be very difficult to deny, to find an alternative explanation for.
	Do I have to...
	Oh, come on, Epoch Times, don't make me do this.
	I'm going to go get the archive links.
	I have to get past the paywall because I don't actually...
	I'm on incognito, but I don't actually subscribe.
	Let's go here.
	This page was last archived two days ago.
	Archive it because it might not be around for much longer.
	Australia.
	It would seem that there is concrete evidence of a problem.
	A very big problem for which many millions of dollars has now been paid out or budgeted.
	Budgeted to be paid out.
	COVID-19 vaccine injury payouts could reach $77 million, budget reveals.
	Oh, you know what they're going to do before they do it.
	Could reach.
	What they're going to have to find a way to do?
	Not pay it out.
	The Australian government could be paying up to $77 million in vaccine injury claims over the next year, according to recently released budget estimates.
	In the current 2021...
	Financial year.
	The government has paid out under a million bucks for several hundred applicants after several hundred applicants were accepted under Australia's COVID-19 vaccine claims scheme.
	Such a sinister name.
	Here we call it the vaccine injury program.
	It seems much nicer than vaccine claims scheme.
	What are you scheming today?
	According to the portfolio budget statement for the Department of Social Services, not the Department of Health.
	The final number of the applicants is far smaller than the original 10,000 who registered their interest in November 2021.
	That's a year ago.
	Yet the Department of Social Services estimates, in a table under third-party payments from and on behalf of other entities, that the total payout numbers could jump 80-fold to $77 million over the 2022-2023 fiscal year.
	This is despite the difficulties with navigating the government compensation scheme, which personal injury lawyer Claire Eves has previously called a challenging process.
	My brother, you might recall, has been on the channel talking about Canada's vaccine injury program, which is difficult to navigate, pays out pennies if you get accepted.
	It's a bit of a slow process, the lawyer says, and it's maybe a bit more involved than people were anticipating that it was going to be.
	The first hurdle really is, do you have one of the recognized Covered conditions.
	We're going to get to this in a second after this article.
	If you don't, then you're probably not going to be eligible.
	Fine.
	We've had just under 350 inquiries about adverse outcomes, and they have been extremely varied, but most of them have a condition that has some ongoing impact.
	Not many seem to fit within the criteria of the six categories.
	Recognized adverse events included anaphylactic reaction, which can happen to anybody, thrombosis, clotting, with thrombocytopenia syndrome, blood clotting, myocarditis, pericarditis, inflammation of the heart or the heart sac, capillary leak syndrome.
	I don't know what that means.
	Demo...
	Dude.
	Demyelinating disorders.
	Sorry, people.
	Demyelinating disorders, including Guillain-Barré syndrome.
	Someone in my family had GBS, but not from the...
	and thrombocytopenia, including immune thummit.
	Wow.
	Eve revealed she had encountered individuals complaining about deconditioning, headaches, fatigue, strokes, and seizures, which fall outside the scheme.
	Thank you.
	Let's just see.
	Is there anything more in here?
	Queensland Liberal Senator Garrick Renick responded to the budget report by saying safe vaccines should not result in a 77 million for compensation.
	Does that mean that in order to prove that it's safe, you have to reduce that amount?
	Or does that mean that someone's recognizing there might be a problem?
	The amount paid out to date is a disgrace.
	He wrote on Facebook.
	So now we know what he means.
	Australian authorities have received 136,000 reports of adverse reactions from 63 million administered doses.
	Meanwhile, around the world, vaccine injuries compensation claims have garnered little traction with authorities.
	As of late July, Japanese authorities have approved 820 vaccine injury claims from 3,600 applicants.
	That's a lot.
	In Canada, eight claims have been approved of 774, while the United States has yet to compensate a single claim.
	What is it in Canada?
	It's called the Canada Vaccine Injury...
	Canada Vaccine Injury...
	The Vaccine Injury Support Program.
	I'll share this link around.
	This is what it looks like.
	We've talked about it before.
	So, yeah.
	There's that.
	Hold on, I saw a rumble rant.
	Oh, in fact, I took a picture of another rumble rant.
	I'm Not Your Buddy Guide says, I would be surprised if Media Matters doesn't clip that part about your dog.
	And then write an article saying, dog-kicking YouTuber.
	He's such a pain in the neck because he's blind, everybody.
	Winston is blind.
	And so he constantly maintains proximity to my feet.
	And he's behind me now.
	And we trip over him.
	Okay, and then I had a couple of other rumble rants that I took a screen grab of.
	I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, fly Viva out as a witness, please.
	I predict he would prove to be an amazing witness.
	I'm still trying, and we'll see what happens, people.
	When criticizing the left, I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, I understand whistleblowing anonymously while it's the inverse for when criticizing the right.
	This is due to the current culture pendulum and consequences for those actions.
	And now Prestitute says Viva kicks blind dog.
	Oh, and then he kisses him.
	And then he kisses the dog.
	Classic pattern.
	Classic pattern of behavior.
	All right.
	So that's for Australia.
	And the weasel out is going to be, it's budgeted.
	It's not yet paid for.
	And so that's going to really get some incentive for the powers that be not to pay it out.
	Or it's going to be, oh, there's just so many that they've vaccinated.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But speaking of those adverse reactions, people, I'll just get the article here.
	It was the one with Trudeau.
	There are some adverse reactions, which now they're recognizing, but there'll be no compensation for.
	Here we go.
	Disclosed TV.
	Just in.
	Safety panel of the European drug regulator now recommends adding heavy menstrual bleeding.
	As a side effect of Pfizer and Moderna's mRNA injections.
	Heavy menstrual bleeding is bleeding from the vajayjay for women when they have their period.
	Why might that be a problem?
	Well, by the way, let me just pull that out and bring up another article.
	I believe I read an article where the heavy bleeding was for like 30 days.
	Everybody knows this from my story with hemorrhoids and rubber band ligation procedure, that you can actually, like women, become anemic if their flows are too heavy.
	I once refused to give blood because my blood iron was like at 12.6 and it needed to be at 13 whatever as the unit.
	It was slightly under.
	And it was at a period of time in my life where I was experiencing heavy bleeding, but not menstrual bleeding.
	From hemorrhoids.
	TMI will make you all want to puke, but that's reality.
	And as you get older, you just end up talking about these things.
	So heavy bleeding is not just a, oh, you're having a heavy period.
	It can lead to anemia.
	It can lead to all sorts of other problems.
	Heavy bleeding, side effect, COVID.
	This is so...
	This is so psychotic.
	Let me just bring this in here because I'm Googling it.
	Menstrual heavy bleeding side effect COVID.
	I'm Googling it.
	Symptoms.
	Get vaccinated.
	Vaccines are widely available.
	I Googled something for side effect results of vaccines.
	I don't need in the search results when I'm looking for heavy bleeding caused by the vax potentially to be told to get vaccinated.
	Get vaccinated.
	Vaccines are widely available.
	COVID-19 affects different people in different ways.
	Infected people have had a wide range of symptoms reported, from mild to severe illness.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Reuters, thank you for the warning there, overlords.
	No, no, no, no.
	Unbelievable.
	And especially the context in which I'm getting this warning.
	Get vaccinated.
	As I Google, European Union regulators recommend adding heavy periods to side effect of mRNA COVID shots.
	A European Medical Advisory Committee on Friday recommended adding heavy menstrual bleeding to the list of side effects.
	Reports of heavy periods, bleeding characterized by increased volume and or duration that interferes with the quality of life, have been observed during clinical trials from cases in the real world and in medical literature.
	Oh, I'm sorry, but if they didn't notice this in the initial trials, who's lying?
	Or maybe just the initial trials were inadequate, were totally bogus, or hadn't gone on for long enough to find out all of these potential side effects.
	The cases which have been mostly, which have mostly been non-serious and temporary in nature, that's to say that some, if not a lot, have been serious and not temporary in nature, have been reported after the first, second, and booster doses of Pfizer's BioNTech Comirnaty and Moderna's SpikeVax.
	Call it SpikeVax?
	Why don't you make it sound worse?
	The regulator has now concluded that there is at least a reasonable possibility that heavy menstrual bleeding is causally associated with these vaccines.
	Nothing to see there.
	I mean, imagine injecting something in your body that makes you bleed for longer than normal from your vajayjay.
	That's totally fine.
	Nothing to think about there.
	Something you put in your arm affects your entire body so much that you bleed more from your privates during your period.
	And by the way, and you're the racist and the misogynist, according to Justin Trudeau, if you don't want to put that in your body.
	I know that I had seen...
	My computer, is this frozen?
	I'll close that.
	I know that I saw an article that said that some people had been bleeding for 30 days.
	Let me just see if I can find it because I don't even trust my own memory.
	Menstrual bleeding heavy 30 days COVID.
	Wow.
	This is just the amount of articles that are coming up now.
	Everyday health.
	COVID-19 can mess with your periods in multiple ways.
	COVID-19 can be used in multiple ways.
	Anyhow, so that's it.
	But you're the misogynist.
	If you're a woman who doesn't want this in your body because of that potential, you're a misogynist, according to Justin Trudeau.
	Falaise Gap, 1944.
	By the way, in French, Falaise means cliff.
	Gap means gap.
	The CCCA has shared a safety risk statement on COVID-19 genetic vaccines.
	This is an outstanding document and a must-read.
	19 pages.
	Look at link on CCCA page.
	Can you read and comment?
	I'm going to screen grab that and then I'm going to go see what the CCCA page is.
	P. Moyer says, as you get older, you talk about these things.
	We call it...
	An organ recital.
	It's where I recite all of the things that are wrong with my organs.
	I'll tell you one thing.
	I don't want to deter anybody from going to have the rubber band ligation surgery, but I'm never having it again.
	I know what it's like to deliver a baby, okay?
	Women, you can take offense at that.
	I know what it's like to deliver a child because my recovery from that day procedure...
	Was two weeks of the most agonizing bowel movements and not just bowel movements.
	Does everyone really want the too much on this?
	No, it's too much.
	It's too much.
	I had to pee sitting down because of what would happen in that two weeks just to go pee-pee.
	And the pee-pee to go pee was just as excruciating.
	Maybe not just as excruciating.
	It was the worst experience.
	It was worse than my testicular torsion.
	I would sooner have a testicular torsion and testicular torsion surgery than have the rubber band ligation procedure.
	Flat out.
	Flat out.
	Nature, love, or freedom.
	I gave birth multiple times a day.
	I was crying, and I can deal with pain.
	I was sobbing, sweating, shivering.
	I was pushing a baby out of my bum every time I went to the bathroom, and it was the worst thing ever.
	But apparently...
	Other people have not had such an experience with their rubber band legate.
	I've gone on too far.
	I've gone on too far.
	Check your prostates, people.
	It's important.
	Okay.
	There's a few chats, but I'm not reading.
	All right.
	So with that said, I think I've got everything.
	I actually don't think there's much more to cover in a day.
	Let's just go back to the Twitter feed, which might have...
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm going to check my notes in the background.
	Okay, I got the quote from...
	What's his face?
	Winston Churchill.
	All right, I think we've done everything.
	Let me just go through the notes of the day because there is undoubtedly...
	Go share my meme.
	It's damn good.
	It's damn good.
	No, I just...
	People are just such idiots.
	So Bill C-11.
	Actually, this will be a decent segment.
	We talked about Bill C-11 yesterday.
	It's not yet through the Senate, but some people are nervous.
	And so this...
	Somebody posted a tweet that said, go tell your senators to strike down...
	The Bill C-11.
	And this person replied, right, Senators, what the F?
	You American effing MP dipshit.
	Yes, we do need Bill C-11 to stop the perpetrators of lies and conspiracies by idiots like yourself.
	This person apparently did not appreciate that it's before the Senate.
	It went through the House of Commons.
	Those are elected MPs.
	And now it's before the Senate, the sober afterthought of the Canadian Parliament, who...
	Ratify, approve, or reject bills that pass through the House of Commons after public speech and debate, I think, the first reading.
	Doesn't know this, but I just have to go see the profile just to see.
	She or hers supports peace, harmony, kindness, inclusion, and social justice.
	BIPOC and the rest.
	I mean, it's...
	What world...
	Like, do people not have this...
	Like, first of all, I'm noticing a trend.
	It tends to be the people who have these outwardly superficial gestures of tolerance and love and all the rest who are the most verbally abusive people on social media.
	But if you're going to chew someone out and call them all sorts of names, know how your own government works.
	There are senators.
	It's before the Senate.
	Okay.
	Rob Reich, we got that.
	The meme.
	Oh, typo free, by the way.
	Yes!
	What else?
	Fagal Ding we got.
	Justin Trudeau.
	Gates of Hell.
	Gates of Hell, people.
	Okay.
	Ezra Levant is suing the government yet again.
	My goodness.
	No rest for the wicked.
	No rest for the wicked.
	Here's another one with peace and love in their bio and nothing but vitriol in their feed.
	All right.
	That's it.
	All right, everybody.
	It's been a long one today because I started an hour early, much to my own stupidity.
	Let's go to the chat and just see if there's any questions, any comments, and what else?
	Canadian COVID Care Alliance.
	Check this link, and the link is there.
	Thank you very much.
	I'm going to screen grab that.
	copy.
	Neat Scholar says, studies show that the most abusive group of people online are women.
	I don't know about that.
	I wouldn't make any broad generalizations.
	That was not an intended pun, but that's funny.
	Okay.
	Neat, a study...
	Okay, no, that's what I just read.
	Snitter says, virtue signal is to deserve all the mockery they get.
	I just try...
	You have to, like...
	It's just...
	It's like...
	It's a rule.
	It's becoming predictive.
	I can detect someone's Twitter feed by the description sometimes.
	Or at the very least, key cues.
	Oh, Pelosi's attack on the husband of Whitmer.
	Nature, love, or freedom.
	Thank you.
	That was the last one.
	The reason why I don't have that up in the backdrop is because it's so damn new as a story that...
	Have there been any developments in this?
	So apparently, and this is not funny, and it's actually scary, on its face.
	Not knowing the details, allegedly, Pelosi's husband, an 82-year-old man, was allegedly violently assaulted, attacked in his home, hospitalized, and the assailant is under arrest.
	So not knowing any more details than that, the story is shocking.
	You know, if one...
	Where did I just close?
	Did I just close my window down?
	If one thinks this might be politically motivated, it's terrifying and offensive and unacceptable.
	If it's random, terrifying, unacceptable.
	But let's just see.
	Here, let's just see what the latest news is.
	Suspect shouted, where is Nancy, before assaulting Pelosi's husband at home, source says.
	This is the latest.
	This is 18 minutes ago, and it's coming from CBS News.
	A suspect broke into the Pelosi residence in San Francisco Friday morning and violently assaulted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul Pelosi, while she was not at home, according to a spokesperson for the House Speaker, Drew Hamer.
	According to a source briefed on the attack, the assailant first asked Paul Pelosi where his wife was.
	The source told CBS...
	How do I get rid of that?
	...that before the assault occurred, the intruder confronted Paul Pelosi shouting, where is Nancy?
	Where is Nancy?
	The suspect was arrested and on...
	So this is where I start to have questions.
	He was arrested, meaning he stayed at the house after assaulting...
	Mr. Pelosi, or did he get arrested later on?
	He was arrested, and on Friday afternoon, the San Francisco Police Department identified him as 42-year-old David Wayne DePop.
	Two law enforcement sources said that he is a resident of nearby Berkeley.
	The San Francisco Police Department said Friday afternoon that DePop will be charged with attempted homicide, assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, burglary, and several additional felonies.
	San Francisco police responded and were at the scene at 2.27 a.m.
	P.T. Hamill also said that Paul Pelosi, 82, is in the hospital and expects him to make a full recovery.
	Associated Press citing two people with knowledge of the investigation reported that Pelosi suffered blunt force injuries in the attack.
	Two sources tell CBS News a hammer was used by the assailant to break into the Speaker's home.
	Law enforcement sources say that it is too early to say definitively what the motive for the attack was, but the possibility that it was politically motivated has not been ruled out.
	Well, thanks, Captain Obvious.
	U.S. Capitol Police are assisting the FBI and San Francisco Police Department with a joint investigation.
	Let's just see what happened.
	Okay, so we've got a bunch of stuff on the family, generic stuff.
	Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement that he had spoken with Pelosi and called the attack on her husband a dastardly act.
	We need people to specify that this was a dastardly act.
	Alright, so that's the latest.
	Now, that's the latest.
	And bearing in mind, by the way, where I thought something was interesting about the state of the world, that's the latest.
	It's...
	Sources say, so it's the usual, says El Diablo in Rumble.
	And this is highlighting now the nefarious after effects of the Alex Jones verdict.
	Some people, there will be all sorts of reactions to this story.
	And they're predictable.
	You could write all of the spectrum of responses.
	You're going to have on one side say, let's just go from left to right.
	The left side will say, this is a right-wing extremist attacker.
	This is what happens when violent words are not reined in.
	It incites the far-right, alt-right extremist to come and use political violence against politicians.
	Some more, what's the word I'm looking for?
	Moderate on a political aisle might say, This was a politically motivated attack.
	Parties on both sides need to tone down the garbage rhetoric.
	Maybe don't talk about SCOTUS members being extremists and then ostensibly giving the political permission slip to certain people to go to Kavanaugh's house.
	We all have to take a step.
	The moderates on both sides would say that.
	It's a real attack.
	It happened.
	It's politically motivated.
	It's atrocious.
	We need to start toning down the rhetoric.
	Other people might say, you know, then some people in the mere center or other people just say, random attack, unacceptable.
	This is what happens when crime runs rampant.
	Go more to the center to the right.
	You're going to have people weaponizing this and they'll say, okay, it's a real attack, bona fide attack.
	It could be a lunatic lefty doing it.
	A lunatic lefty who's angry at Pelosi because they didn't get anything done on abortion rights, whatever.
	Or someone on the right or center right could say, this is what happens when crime runs, you know, Haywire.
	Out of control in Democrat-run shithole cities.
	I mean, that's if you want to politicize it that way.
	Then you could get people on both ends of the political aisle saying, it's a stage, it's a setup.
	It's a paid instigator, it's a paid actor.
	Go in, hurt him, but don't hurt him too bad.
	Gain some sympathy two weeks before an election.
	Then the question is going to be, can people entertain this public discourse without the fear of espousing such beliefs?
	Entertaining such discussion, engaging in such discussion, without facing the prospect of Paul Pelosi suing them for a billion dollars for saying, you know, the old expression in Chicago, throw a brick at your own house, throw a brick at your own political headquarters is an easy way to raise funds.
	If someone wants, if someone who's more conspiratorial in nature, more cynical, more skeptical, You know, floats an idea that Paul Pelosi finds offensive.
	Does he get to sue them for a billion dollars now?
	And by the way, do people not get to ask that question?
	It's just the interesting, because I hear the story, you know, I'm thinking, before the details came out, this could be any number of things.
	First of all, how does someone break into the Pelosi's home?
	How does that happen?
	At first, before I knew that the person broke in, I was like, oh, was this a guest who did this?
	But no, it sounds like it's someone who broke into the house.
	How does that happen?
	We got questions.
	Where's Nancy?
	Where's Nancy?
	You are going to have people, for right or for wrong, for good or for bad, who are going to say, this sounds and smells like a MAGA country incident.
	Although we've gotten arrest now of an actual individual.
	So not MAGA MAGA, but someone's going to say, this is very convenient.
	This smells like it could be some form of political thing.
	Are they going to face a billion-dollar lawsuit for having this discussion about prominent public figures?
	That's the world we live in right now, but bottom line, it's unacceptable.
	We'll see what the motivation was.
	I'm sure people are going to be scouring the internet for social media posts if it already hasn't been scrubbed.
	We'll see what comes out about this individual social media footprint.
	Undoubtedly, he has one.
	But, you know, it's not an exaggerated neurotic reflex to say, can people even have the discussion now without, you know, looking over their shoulder for a billion-dollar lawsuit?
	It's the Alex Jones effect.
	It's 2.75 trillion after the katpa damages of $5,000 per impression.
	Reading some of the chat.
	Nature Lover Freedom says, good question, bad security.
	Dude breaks into the house.
	But also, I want to know the context.
	Did he assault Paul Pelosi and then remain on the scene to get arrested?
	Or did they arrest him later like they had footage?
	I presume they have cameras.
	Everybody's got...
	Security systems and cameras, especially politicians.
	So did they arrest him later?
	If they arrested him on the scene, did he stay at the scene after assaulting Paul Pelosi to get arrested?
	It seems...
	Okay, so there's some chat that I'm not even going to read as a joke.
	You never know.
	But anyhow, it's the chilling effect of the Jones decision.
	And some might say...
	The obvious intended chilling effect of the Jones decision.
	Whatever happens in the Jones decision, he doesn't have 2.75 trillion dollars.
	That whole process and that judgment, a billion compensatory, 2.75 trillion punitive and whatever, intended partly for Jones and a lot for everybody.
	Shut up.
	Don't question the narratives.
	Be careful what you say, although everybody should be careful with what they say.
	And now people are going to say, People who would ordinarily say, hey, dude, let's think of a conspiracy theory to explain away this situation.
	How does someone break into Paul Pelosi's house at 2.15 in the morning?
	Did he stick around to get arrested after assaulting the Speaker of the House husband?
	Who's the individual?
	What do they have on their social media footprint, social media profile?
	Did you say the perp was a Berkeley resident, says D. Thomas 125.
	Not likely a conservative.
	You know?
	Let's see.
	This could just as easily be a far-left political activist as it could be.
	It's not a MAGA Republican.
	Let me say that part.
	It might be some other extremist on the right end of the political spectrum.
	MAGA Republicans, whatever you think of them, as a rule, do not resort to this crap because everybody knows this is wrong, it's terrible, and need say no more than that.
	But this could just as easily be someone who's very angry about Roe v.
	Wade having been overturned.
	Who would you blame for that?
	Well, on the one hand, you might blame some of the justices, and we saw what happened there.
	On the other hand, you might blame some of the politicians who've had control of government for a long time.
	I think people did promise to pass legislation to ratify Roe v.
	Wade and didn't.
	Could be some environmental activist.
	Angry at Pelosi for being an environmental hypocrite.
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	But you've got to watch what you have by way of discussion.
	Don't entertain the throwing a brick through the window of your own headquarters to raise funds.
	That's a billion-dollar judgment.
	A billion-dollar lawsuit.
	Just some junkie, probably, says Nature Lover Freedom.
	Yeah, but unlikely if they said, where's Nancy?
	Where's Nancy?
	I mean, it's interesting.
	Unless...
	You know, Paul, unless Paul says, where's Nancy?
	Who knows?
	It's all inside.
	We'll see.
	It's going to develop.
	But the whole point is now, you know, I don't think people are going to weigh their words, but people are going to have the thoughts now.
	And that was probably the intended secondary effect of the Alex Jones debacle.
	Whether or not Alex Jones deserved the judgment, everyone now is going to say, if I deny it or question this, is Paul Pelosi going to sue me?
	We'll see.
	Who knows?
	All right, everyone.
	That's going to be it for the day.
	Are we getting the inquiry back on?
	Get your inquiry back on.
	Okay, I will end it now.
	I'm going to try to fix...
	I want to get the main screen, screen and screen.
	Everyone...
	Oh, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on.
	There were two rumble rants that I forgot to read.
	And they were interesting.
	Shweedy101 says, I'm unjabbed and untested.
	Okay, but was that in response to a previous Shweedy who says...
	Oh, okay.
	I see what...
	There's a...
	Two rumble rants from Shweedy.
	The second one says, I'm unjabbed and untested.
	The first said, and I'm reading this, I bled for seven weeks straight after being close to someone recently vaxxed.
	I have previously always had perfect cycles.
	Weirdly enough, blood work showed nothing wrong.
	No anemia.
	No issues since then.
	Without, I will neither agree nor disagree with this.
	I just know the theory.
	The shedding.
	And I do know the idea because they were actually talking about a vaccine that could be administered through the air involuntarily.
	So now I understand the rumble rant.
	Thank you very much, Shweedy.
	Now you're getting me to say Shweedy to someone who's not my wife.
	I'm going to get in trouble.
	Dr. Malone is on Alison Morrow live right now.
	Okay, Malone.
	Okay, I'm going to go there.
	And I'm thinking aloud.
	I'm going to get Dr. Malone on the channel now.
	There's no question.
	This will be good as well.
	I'm going to go watch Allison so I get smarter in real time.
	Everybody, go.
	Enjoy the day.
	Enjoy the weekend.
	Sunday night, we're back.
	Barnes is back.
	Guess who's back?
	Barnes is back.
	Back again.
	Sunday Night Stream is going to be a banger because there's a lot of stuff to talk about and it's going to be amazing.
	MrEd124 says, have a fantastic day, people, and stay away from...
	Stay away from the guys.
	Thanks all.
	Malone is fishing.
	What does that mean?
	He's away fishing?
	I love Malone.
	Oh, he's fishy.
	Okay.
	All right, whatever.
	Go.
	Enjoy the day.
	Hearing's going to be on the second channel.
	Thank you all, as always, for everything.
	Oh, I need a video to play us out.
	To play us out.
	Let me see what we're going to play today.
	It's going to be short.
	Yesterday's was too long.
	Kid lost his first tooth yesterday trying to decide whether or not I can make a video of it because I don't know if I have enough footage.
	I did do it in a very funny way.
	Oh, let's do that.
	Let's do a Viva Fry Tooth Pull.
	With a drone.
	With a drone, people.
	This is going to be...
	This is another one.
	Let's end the stream with a smile.
	If I can figure out...
	Not invite.
	I need to present.
	I pulled my kid's tooth with a drone.
	And all you negative ninnies out there, how you put the drone so close to your kid's face, you could have killed her.
	You could have killed her.
	Don't worry about it.
	Here we go.
	Enjoy.
	I will see you all Sunday, if no earlier.
	We're pulling out a tooth today with the drone.
	We've tied dental floss to the bottom.
	Okay, we got this.
	Let's show the tooth.
	Can I record it now?
	Not yet.
	Let's just see how we...
	Oh my gosh!
	Okay, it's ready.
	It's ready.
	Okay, I'm going to tie the rope around it and then we're going to do this.
	Are you excited?
	Oh my gosh.
	Don't wiggle it anymore.
	We can't have a follow before we do this.
	Let's see.
	I want to make sure.
	Okay, stay still.
	Stay still.
	Everyone back up.
	Let me just get the drone in the air first.
	Fly the drone up.
	Okay, are you recording slow-mo now?
	Are we ready?
	thumbs up three three two one And she found the tooth!
	Oh, and I can see the little tooth coming in!
	Are you happy?
	It's finally gone!
	One.

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