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Oct. 26, 2021 - Viva & Barnes
01:28:23
Livestream with Avi Yemini - Viva Frei Live
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Just went live now.
That doesn't count.
That doesn't count as laypeople because that was strictly my internet not connecting because they're shutting down internet in Canada, people.
I'm joking.
At least for now.
I just bit my tongue.
I'm joking at least for now.
Oh, I really did just bite my tongue.
That hurt.
F. Yeah, it's a legit F tonight.
All right, people.
This is a surprise live stream.
Short notice.
But Avi and I have been talking about getting it going for a couple of weeks now, and it just didn't work out until today.
So, now I'm going to be lisping even more than I ordinarily do.
So, look, brief introduction.
This is an impromptu sort of live stream.
Avi Yamini is a Rebel News reporter.
I did a live stream with him a while back.
We talked about pretty much everything.
One of those starting from the beginning, getting to the present stream.
So we won't go over everything about Avi.
Except to say, I believe Syrian descent, Israeli citizen, fought in the IDF, is now a Rebel News reporter.
He'll correct me on the family history.
I may have gotten that wrong.
Avi Yamini, which means that he would be from Yemen of origins.
Okay, whatever.
He'll correct me when we go live.
Is a reporter for Rebel News.
Out of Australia.
And to say that he's been getting some of the most amazing stories and covering things that ordinary people would probably stay as far away from as humanly possible.
He's been doing the Lord's work in terms of reporting what's going on in Australia.
I see the comments.
I know what people say about Avi.
He knows what people say about him.
We're not here to discuss everything all the time at the same time.
Tonight we're talking about...
What is going on in Australia?
And if it's as far off the deep end as it looks like it is from here, and I know people in the States are saying, look at the pot calling the kettle black or the Canadian calling the Aussie a police state.
It's as bad in Canada as it looks like it is in Australia.
We'll see.
But okay, Avi is in the house now, and we're going to get this going because this is going to be intense.
We've got questions, and let's hope that the audio works.
Avi, how are you doing?
There you go, mate.
It's beautiful.
The audio is good.
It's 15 hours in the future where you are.
Absolutely.
You know what?
You mentioned that we had a chat.
I think it was at the beginning of the pandemic.
And it was the opposite.
Because I remember I was drinking wine and you were drinking coffee.
By the way, people, that was not planned.
This is not wine.
This is Irish wine.
Proper 12. That's pretty funny.
That was not planned at all.
That was not planned at all, people.
In synchronicity, we brought them up together.
Yeah, it was the exact other way around.
And I remember people were like, he's drinking wine and so disrespectful.
It's like, dude, that has never been the ambiance at a live stream here.
But man, Avi, way back in another world when we thought it was as bad as it was going to get back then.
Okay, look, before we even get into the madness, elevator pitch nutshell for anybody who doesn't know who you are, but I think everybody does.
Okay, who am I?
Avi, Aussie, Israeli.
I'm an Aussie with Israeli heritage.
My mom's from Yemen, like you said in the beginning.
I'm the middle child of 17 children, so I do enjoy attention.
I do, but I also like getting in the middle of it.
And there has been a lot to be in the middle of here in Melbourne.
Some of it probably more scary than anything I've seen in my life, and I've seen a lot.
Our last conversation was at the beginning of this pandemic, which I remember you were looking at it pretty shocked at what was happening back then.
And I think if we fast-forwarded probably a few months, we saw the same things in Canada.
And that's why I think it's probably important for people to look at what's happening in, especially Melbourne, where I am right now, to take notice.
And it's a warning.
If it can happen here, it can happen anywhere.
And I think Canada is probably a great example because if it can happen here, it can certainly happen and probably will happen in Canada.
I actually just want to point out one thing for everybody out there.
17 kids.
From one marriage, Avi, right?
I remember being flabbergasted at that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's amazing.
And that might explain a few things about who you are, determination, how you can deal with what you deal with.
But yeah, Avi, when we first talked, it's close to two years ago.
Let's just say over a year ago, I think.
It was bad.
And we're like, holy cows, how much worse is it going to get?
Where are you in Australia?
So I'm in Melbourne.
This is...
Lockdown city, most lockdown city in the world.
And what people don't understand is not only has the lockdown, we've just gotten out of lockdown, returned some sort of freedoms as long as you're vaccinated.
But it's been the longest lockdown with stay-at-home orders.
But even when we've been out of lockdown since the beginning of this pandemic, there have been the toughest rules and the rules that we've had.
Not in lockdown is probably similar to the rules that most of the world had in lockdown.
So I'd argue compared to much of the world, we've been in lockdown since the beginning.
Now, I think you need to explain for people out there how Australia works because there are different states.
Some of these states have different rules for whatever the reason.
It's bizarre because I think for us Aussies, you know, we always thought of ourselves as, you know, one nation.
Australia was, I think, it's interesting because during the pandemic, we changed our anthem from young and free to one and free.
And the Prime Minister changed it without a referendum, without anything, suddenly overnight.
And it happened to be the night where state borders began to shut.
And it was something we've never in history seen here in Australia.
We always thought, you know, if I'm in Melbourne, I can just drive to Sydney or I can drive, you know, the other side of the country.
These borders didn't mean much besides a sign and who's governing locally.
But it has really changed throughout the pandemic as those borders did come up.
And not only that, just the rules.
The health orders between states were so different because the science...
Let's make sure everybody's clear on that.
We don't want to get your live stream banned.
This is all...
The science was very different a thousand kilometres apart in the same country.
So you'll see...
And it kind of became this fight between states.
You had New South Wales, where people know Sydney, The Premier, which resigned because of the corruption.
Anyway, let's not get into that.
But New South Wales, she was, you know, talking very anti-lockdown for a majority of the pandemic, nothing compared to, you know, Florida or whatever.
But for Australia, she was quite tough, wanted to push through until she caved during the...
Delta variant and our Victorian Premier was mocking her for doing it all wrong.
And it turns out, somebody's commenting here, dictator Daniel Andrews, he was mocking her and condemning her for not going hard enough.
And she still didn't go as hard, nowhere near as hard as Victoria.
And their numbers, you know, they didn't lock down as long, as hard or anything.
And they haven't had.
Near as many deaths in both outbreaks as Victoria.
So which in Australia, if you look at Australia, it proves in the context of Australia, the one country which compared to the world we've had hardly any COVID, but even within Australia, the most locked down city with the toughest rules throughout the entire pandemic has suffered the most deaths.
And I suspect that had to do with the outbreak at the hotel that they had.
I mean, that's where it was.
That was the first outbreak.
That was last year.
But even in the second outbreak, which was this Delta variant that had everyone going crazy and New South Wales locked down but didn't listen to Victoria and didn't lock down as hard, they went through it with a short – we went short and fast, hard and fast, seven-day snap lockdown before it gets out of control, which ended up being 77 days.
New South Wales pushed it, pushed it, pushed it, and didn't lock down as broad.
They didn't do this, what they call the ring of steel.
They didn't lock rural to the city.
They didn't do any of that.
And they had less deaths.
They have a larger population as well.
Remember, they have a larger population.
They had less deaths.
They had less everything.
I don't know.
I like the scientists better in New South Wales, although I'm not liking any of the scientists because I feel like they've become this, you know, power onto themselves and they're dictating all our lives based on, you know, I've been in court watching them give evidence and it's literally people's opinions that, fine, they may have science degrees in certain areas, but a lot of their opinions are...
Probably, you know, as good as you and I may have opinions on what predictions are going to happen because they're not really scientific.
That's the point.
They're not scientific.
We make the joke.
It's like when science meets politics, you get political science.
I'm going to read two chats here.
Avi, we need you to do a visit to Parliament.
Avi, we need you and David to do a visit to Parliament.
Okay.
I don't know what that means.
So they're giving away my location today.
I didn't even know that.
I'm nowhere near Parliament, so I had no idea.
I'm not in Parliament now, but for those of you who want me to visit Parliament, all I can say to you, there is a good couple of weeks ahead with some bombshell stuff happening.
For your audience, I don't know what's happening in Australia, in Melbourne specifically, right now there is a bill being put to Parliament.
Which, over the last year and a half, we've had this controversial state of emergency, which it was designed before a state of war or whatever it is, the state of emergency.
It was designed to have a maximum capacity lifespan of six months.
And I remember when I first...
When the pandemic first kicked in, and I was one of those people online telling people, take self-responsibility, protect your family, stay indoors, wear a mask.
I was one of those people because I thought, but I was never saying, let the government force you to do it.
I was always saying, listen, I care about my family.
This thing looks kind of scary.
Let's all take personal responsibility.
And if you're worried, if you're really scared, stay home yourself.
That was always my stance.
And what concerned me in the beginning was when this state of emergency was declared, and a state of disaster as well, when it was declared and I read what it meant, I kind of looked at it and I messaged some mates of mine, you know, who are in the media, in the mainstream media, and I said, am I reading this right?
Does this mean cops can kick in my door if they suspect me of...
And they said, They said to me, yes, it is crazy overreaching powers, but the qualifier to that is it's only got a maximum lifespan of six months, meaning you can't really get a dictator out of this.
This can't be a coup.
It's fine.
It'll be all right.
For six months, Avi, they may kick in your door because, you know, they don't like you that much.
Six months carte blanche to do whatever they want, but it ends after six months unless they say it's such an emergency.
We've got to go for another six months.
Well, and this is the thing, because we deal so much at Rebel, we deal so much with lawyers.
Sometimes I get confused between whether we're a media company or a law firm.
I think we hire more lawyers than we do journalists.
But I was talking to the lawyer that was doing a lot of our work at the time, and I said, you know, can you explain to me the legality behind everything?
What you're saying is it's designed in peacetime with level heads, thinking about what could happen, but it's designed to protect the system, the democracy.
So to take into account that this emergency could happen where they need these powers, but at the same time, don't let freaked out, well-meaning politicians lose their way and kind of...
You know, and then take advantage of it, or even by accident.
So she said that's the meaning behind the six months.
Came the six months, suddenly the government here, who had a mandate before the pandemic, never in the pandemic, who had strong, you know, the government, they annihilated the opposition in the last election.
So they have...
A real...
I can't read your messages that come on screen because they crack me up.
I'll stop.
I'll stop.
Sorry.
No, it's fine.
So they had this mandate.
They had this power in government that allowed them to quickly take bills through parliament and get them passed really easily, not because they had a mandate during the pandemic, because if you put any of these things to a referendum, even in the socialist state of Victoria...
I guarantee you that they wouldn't get through with half the stuff they're getting through.
They put it through Parliament.
They got this six months extended to a year, a year and a half.
So we're about to hit the 18 months in December.
That's a year and a half.
And those crossbenchers that have made it possible for them to get it passed said, oh, well, you know, they're talking tough because the public is rightfully outraged that these six months have turned into a year and a half.
So now they're running this bill which will give the Premier of Victoria, who the world is seen as a meme, dictator Dan meme.
It will officially turn him into a legitimate dictator.
He will have the sole power to jail people.
Well, to decide if it's a pandemic and then to jail people up to two years.
Who purposely breach his health orders declared only by him when he declares any pandemic.
That's the reality that we're facing here now in Victoria.
So, yeah, we have a few fights in Parliament.
There's what's happening there at the moment.
And, you know, I haven't told anyone yet.
We've got an amazing legal team.
I don't know if you remember, but I don't know, maybe it's a year.
I can't remember when it was.
A while back, I was taken away.
I was arrested in Daniel Andrews' press conference during, I think it was the first or second week.
And I got into the press conference and then I was dragged off.
And for months, this is an exclusive, Viva, because I haven't even told anyone yet about this.
Excellent.
Timestamp, 16 minutes and 25 seconds.
Go ahead, Avi.
Don't make a big deal of it yet because I need to break it.
But back then, I was kicked out of Parliament grounds.
I was giving a seven-day order not to go to Parliament as a journalist.
And it was something we've never seen.
It's never happened here.
And for months, we had like one of our legal teams trying to play their game and apply for the, you know, through the...
Through the Parliament to get that access.
And I imagine my shock when I was rejected.
Well, we've just taken on some of the biggest names in media law.
So a big lawyer, a QC, who within a matter of days are filing that lawsuit to try get me back in there.
And these are people when...
When the public realises who we're taking on, they're the biggest names in the country and they've had recently some massive wins for the mainstream media.
They work for the mainstream media generally.
So that's one of the very exciting fights coming up to do with Parliament.
QC is Queen's Council, right?
Queen's Council, yeah.
Okay.
So, okay.
I mean, I remember the lawsuit that you had pending at the time, which had to do with your arguably, but not so arguably, unjust arrest or wrongful arrest.
That's still going in the back.
And that's grown because since we first launched that, we've had some other interactions.
That's grown.
I don't know.
I don't think I'm allowed to say.
There's a lot of interesting parts to that as well.
But now we have...
This lawsuit will probably be a lot quicker because it's more of a judicial review or whatever it is.
I might be wrong.
Yeah, but presumably something about issuing press passes so that you can access and report.
This is a challenge to the way they've rejected us and they haven't even given us reasons as to why I'm rejected.
Sounds exactly like what they did to rebel media in Canada when they refused to authorize the press pass to cover the federal elections debate.
They did it twice.
Or once.
I think they did it once.
Sorry.
They did it the year before.
They won and they did it again.
They did it twice.
This is not to test your constitutional knowledge or to hold you to it if it's not right, but just break it down for us outside who don't understand.
How many states are there in Australia?
You are?
You're going to get me into trouble here, aren't you?
Yeah, I'm going to...
Just give or take this four or five, right?
I forget what they are.
Because we have states and territories we have.
So let's go.
I'm going to do it by heart.
I'm not going to actually cheat.
You should have warned me because...
No, no, I'm sorry.
Let's pause this.
So we've got Victoria and New South Wales, Queensland, the ACT, which is a territory that's the capital we have, Northern Territory and Western Australia and then Tasmania.
Okay.
Did you count me?
Yeah, it's good.
There's a half dozen, give or take.
It doesn't really matter.
The next question is this, because some people say Australia doesn't have a constitution, and I never knew the answer to this one way or the other.
Do you guys have a constitution?
No, I think people confuse it.
There's a constitution.
There's no Bill of Rights.
Okay.
So there's nothing that guarantees the rights.
No, there's implied freedoms.
And that's some of our challenges in court.
And it's such a problem, you know.
One of the issues that I found throughout this pandemic is from, you know, well-meaning people that are trying to stand up for their rights and they go on the internet and they hear all these people that are just talking nonsense about our constitution, their rights.
Then they get into these arguments with police and we try to help them.
You know, like, a great example is last week, I think it was, or a week, everything's blending into one.
Day 472 of the pandemic lockdown.
The police arrested a woman on a park bench, and it happened to be in front of me because I was covering the protest, a protest that ended up just being somebody trolling the police.
I saw this video of you.
It's terrible, but sorry.
Yeah, so, and that woman...
She was not a protester.
She's never been arrested, involved in any of that.
But she's obviously, you know, watched things online.
And there was this misconception that goes, that I've seen from different, pushed by different groups, some probably well-meaning themselves as well, just don't actually know what they're talking about, giving legal advice when, you know, that's why I'm very careful not to give legal advice.
I'm not a lawyer.
But one thing I know, which is often said wrong, is that if you're suspected of a crime and they have grounds to suspect you of that crime, and you can argue what the grounds are and you can challenge them there in the moment so you have something later, but often in these situations, the fight is later on.
They said...
That you actually need to comply with giving your details, you know?
It's not very hard for them to find a reason to suspect you.
You can challenge that later.
And so many times we were doing this Fight the Fines campaign like Ezra's doing in Canada.
And so often we were taking these fines on.
We were beating the fines.
But we were kind of getting stuck with this stupid thing of failing to provide your Your details, even when it turned out you were innocent.
But the fact that they suspected you means you broke the law by avoiding.
And that's his challenge.
That's been one of the biggest challenges that I've had, trying to educate people without being a lawyer.
And also, you know, you get these people going, oh, Avi, why are you telling people that you have to give your details?
Haven't you seen this guy on the internet educating everyone?
You know how it is on the internet.
Everybody on the internet is ready and willing to tell you how to go get arrested and have your credentials revoked, life ruined, out of protest, when you have a job to do and there's your job and then there's not your job.
Not your job is telling other people what to do or how to interpret stuff, but to report is your job.
So the next question, just so people understand, people are not grilling you in the chat.
It doesn't matter exactly how many states, yada, yada.
The question is this.
Are they grilling me?
No, no, no.
They're just joking.
I think I got it right.
I just didn't count it.
Was it seven?
Doesn't matter.
You have those seven states.
Seven, yeah.
I got it right.
They each have their own.
No, no, no.
I want an apology from anyone that's grilling me.
Public apology.
I got it right.
It wasn't a grilling.
I think it might have also been an old comment.
That aside, each one of those states has their own...
They're called premier, right?
Yeah.
Or Prime Minister?
No, Premier.
Is the Prime Minister his red rule?
Yep.
Okay.
So it's a similar system to Canada.
And each one of these states has their own Premier.
And Dictator Dan seems to be the worst dictator of all of the states.
Is that a fair assessment?
Am I going to get you in trouble?
No, no, no, no.
I can't say that because the problem is other states have managed to lock out COVID completely.
So having said that, they would probably go along the same lines as Dan.
And there's a clear divide.
The left are really authoritarian.
The states with Labor leaders, Labor premiers, they love the lockdown.
There are so many states here that lock down over one case for five days.
Now, Victoria...
Dan Andrews stuffed up the hotel quarantine back then, so there was that whole kerfuffle there.
And so we had that outbreak.
So the reaction from Andrews is what I imagine that those states would have if they had any of the numbers that we had here.
In practice, yes, he was certainly by far the most authoritarian.
You know, the police got away with some of the most horrific behaviour.
But you would probably, you would see that in other states as well.
So I think it's a problem that the states have been given these kind of powers to do whatever they want, even against the federal government.
It's like our Prime Minister has not been, he has not led anything through this.
He's allowed the states to kind of control the country.
And that's what we've seen.
Dan has been the worst only because of circumstances.
There are others that I believe are just as evil as him.
Who is the...
I saw a video earlier today.
It's a woman, very thin, with black hair.
A reporter's asking her a question about how the vaccine passport is going to create two classes of citizens and grant rights to those who are vaccinated.
And she goes, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
And I forget who she was if she was a doctor.
But what numbers are we talking about?
Of COVID infections in Australia.
Australia is a pretty populated country, although sparsely populated.
Let's look up to Victoria, which is, that's the big outbreak.
I don't even follow the numbers anymore.
It's going to blow the minds of anybody watching.
When you're talking about Victoria's the outbreak, we're in single, maybe low double digits from what I recall.
When you get there, I want to know what this is.
Hold on, they changed DHHS.
Oh, that was the New Zealand.
Okay, sorry.
Was that the Prime Minister of New Zealand?
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be insulting and confuse New Zealand with Australia, but I did.
Not only did you not know how many states we had, so you have an idea.
So today we had 1,500 new cases in a population, I don't know what we are, 6 million.
6 million of 80% fully vaccinated.
I think we are at 80% fully vaccinated.
So you're talking about, you know, there's 750 people in hospital.
Oh, we're 76% fully vaccinated over 16. So there's 24,000 active cases of COVID now.
And this is the worst it's ever been.
That's the worst.
24,000 active cases.
Active cases in the state.
Which does not include hospitalization, ICUs.
No, no, no.
Hospitalization, there's 748.
There's been 1,500 new cases overnight.
But this is like the worst we've ever been.
Despite everything.
Despite every measure that has been implemented.
And it's still 750.
That was only for the state with a population of 6 million.
Australia as a country has 25.5 million people.
Probably close to 30 maybe.
It's very shocking.
It's shocking.
My next question is, we are reading in Canada.
That they're constructing camps or they're constructing temporary detention facilities.
Is that true?
COVID camps, yeah.
And it makes a question because they always said that the camps were just going to take over from hotel quarantine because there were so many problems with hotel quarantine.
So anybody arriving back in Australia, we've had our borders shut for the majority of this pandemic.
You know, you couldn't leave or get back.
So they were building these, like, mass COVID camps with federal government support because the states couldn't handle it and it was...
Now, they're still building it, but they're saying they're opening the borders now when we're 90...
I think 90%...
November 1, I think they're opening international borders again after almost two years.
Can I ask you something?
What problem...
Is the building of the...
I don't want to say camps.
The building of the facilities.
The government called them COVID camps.
Then I can do that.
I'll feel less guilty.
My parents won't get mad at me.
What problem are the camps solving that the hotels were creating?
What problems exist in hotels?
They were saying basically there kept being outbreaks.
The outbreaks only...
We are an island, right?
In theory...
If you stop the virus coming in, which you could technically do by shutting your border, so if nobody comes in, then there is no way for the virus to get in.
Yep, I can agree with that, but that doesn't take into account the people that, one, have to get in, and two, it doesn't take into account the abuse of your basic human right to be able to...
Come back home.
So they had these hotel quarantines, which I think you had in Canada, but here it was a lot more, you know, if you broke that, if you left hotel quarantine, you were going to jail.
If you breached it, you were going to jail.
You were getting a $5,000 fine.
You had to pay, like it was ridiculous.
And even though, even so, there were still breaches and there were still outbreaks.
And so they thought.
They need to build these camps so that way what they would do is create kind of a safe space for the virus.
So anybody who arrives in Australia and anyone who works with them, because the problem was you had security coming from outside or caterers or whatever, the bus drivers, they were picking them up from the airport, going to the hotel quarantine, and if the virus was on the bus, viva, viva.
Imagine my shock that the virus in the bus was able to jump to the driver and the driver then...
The question is, how is that going to be any different with the camp?
Because what they were saying is, we're going to make this safe space that everyone involved would potentially be in these camps.
So if you worked, if you this, if you were coming...
Well, hold on.
The only exemption would be if you were rich and famous, then you could enter without it.
Put them to the side a second.
For us plebs, normal, you know, people, taxpayers, then you end up in a COVID case.
But now they're saying, the thing that makes no sense is now they're saying they're getting, they're scrapping, they're scrapping hotel quarantine for fully vaccinated.
I think you've got to just do a PCR test and go home and once you're clear, you're good.
So what...
Why are there camps?
And when that question is being put to the government, I don't know if they really mean it, but as a Jew, when somebody says they're going to kill you, I'm going to believe them.
I'm just going to believe them.
So when the government says, in case of other variants, I'm going to believe them.
I'm going to believe them that they're preparing.
For an ongoing pandemic of non-deal.
Remember, it was in the beginning, Wuhan was the, you know, the Wuhan strain was the most deadly, violent, vicious thing we've ever seen in history.
And we cannot do anything about it.
And now it's all about Delta.
In 2022, it might be the Viva strain.
I don't know.
It has to go by the official, what is it called, code.
It's going to be V would be Victor.
You're going to get to the Zulu variant, and then they're going to have to go to AA.
It's going to be the Alpha Alpha variant.
I was going to make the joke a while back that people are going to say they've had enough when we get to the Zulu variant.
So they're actually constructing these camps.
They're calling them camps.
They are basically...
Not makeshift, but rather low-quality huts, not a hotel.
I never understood it because...
I can't tell.
I don't know.
I think it depends which state.
In Northern Territory, they've had these camps up from the beginning, but Northern Territory is what it sounds like.
There's a lot of land, and it's out in the middle of the night.
It's very hot.
They've had these, and it's been like cabins, and they've just kind of taken over what, it kind of reminds me of military.
You know, you had your little...
They look like barracks.
They look like sort of...
Yeah, Max, and each traveller kind of went into his one and wasn't allowed in or out.
You couldn't, you know, your food they would leave on the steps and you would open, you know, there was a whole procedure.
I think it's along those lines each state may vary.
I don't think it would be tense.
Do you remember early on in this pandemic, people were circulating an alleged or purported leaked email from the Liberal government, setting out the next steps, and they said, oh, by Q1...
2021, this is what's going to happen, Q2.
And then they were circulating also apparently a memo that they had asked for bids for...
I forget what it was exactly, but it was either weapons or building these camps.
I said at the time, my inclination is to think that's fake because you don't need to build camps.
You could just convert hotels under the Quarantine Act, which is what we did in Canada.
Now I'm thinking, okay, fine.
The idea, the impetus to construct these camps might be, it's a great way...
Not to launder money, just to create contracts with friends and family so that they build these camps, which is an extra expense.
It's an extra cost for government and it's an extra project.
And they'll build the camps, even though you don't have to because you can still use hotels, on the basis that we'll avoid the outbreaks that we had at the hotels where the staff were boning some of the occupants of the hotel, thus spreading the virus.
It'll all be different in these camps.
Great way to waste money and create a government project.
But bottom line, Avi, they do exist.
And people are in them.
Yes, they are and they do.
And, you know, I think like many aspects of this pandemic, you know, people often come to me and they're like, do you believe this massive conspiracy that this and that?
And potentially there's, I think every conspiracy theory that there is some truth, a lot of them at least, there's some truth to it.
But I also think like some of it's just opportunistic or some just...
Political, you know, at the time when they decided to do this, it was a solution to the problem that they were having in the media at the time of, oh, the hotel quarantine is flopping.
We need to pretend like we're doing something.
And yeah, there's a good bonus.
I can give my friends some jobs.
I can do, you know, it's just like the government, especially the federal government here, wants to look like they're doing something.
The Andrews government certainly wants to...
Grab some more power.
I'm looking at these comments you're getting.
Yeah, they're great.
I'm sorry.
I hope it's not too distracting.
I love bringing them up.
Some of the ones that are tongue-in-cheek astute observations.
Yeah, okay.
So it is effectively what we see on the ground here.
The question I've had for you that's on the ground there and talking to the people, do Australians know what's going on?
Is there rabid censorship of the media in Australia such that It's entirely conceivable that we, outside of Australia, actually know better what's going on in Australia than Australians.
Look, I think Stockholm Syndrome's real.
I think there's a part of the population that, and it's so bizarre to watch because there was a point, and it's happened, I've witnessed it in both major outbreaks where we had, you know, prolonged lockdowns, where there was a period where I'm walking down the street.
And everyone hates Daniel Andrews.
Everyone.
And then the minute he gives them back what he never had the real right to take from him, like not even gives them back, partially gives them back, enough to make them, you know, it didn't bother them anymore.
So when it affected them, there was a breaking point for everyone and they hated him.
But when they got back enough that they were not affected by it, Then people are suddenly like, oh, yeah, no, things are all right.
And the media is, you know, drumming up this Freedom Day and how well we've done.
So, yeah, certainly the media does target, you know, Rebel or even some commentators and reporters at Sky News and tries to, you know, they try to spin this thing that American right wing.
Media is blowing out of proportion what's happening here in Australia.
They're showing people on the streets, which is kind of funny to me because I think North Korea is probably also quite free if you're willing to sit in your home without going outside.
It's quite free if you have no expectations.
You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
You're free.
You just can't do anything.
Exactly.
So, you know, when Australia has fallen, was trending for like two weeks on Twitter, and it became a big thing here in Australia, and the media was blaming right-wing American media, spurred on by, you know, people like Rebel News and other, and there's this guy Rookshan who's been doing the live stream.
They were kind of blaming all of us for that.
For the perceived reporting, what people think is happening in Australia.
And they're saying, well, it's not really happening.
We are actually quite free.
The fact that we get to stand up and talk about it means we're free, which is kind of funny because you don't actually get to stand up and talk about it.
No joke, Avi, because this is the thought I had.
I know you in Australia, but I...
Just so everybody knows, I'm not talking about you now.
I've had private Facebook messages with someone in Australia.
And I said, you know, how is it out there?
Is everything good?
And they write back to me in what I thought to be an uncharacteristic way.
Everything is good.
It's very much exaggerated.
And then I read and we all heard the news bit about a new law that they're trying to pass, which would basically give authorities the right to not just access, but delete, modify, survey your private DMs.
And I'm thinking like...
This is how it is.
This is literally how it started in other eras in other countries.
They're not even free to discuss privately because they think, you know, spies are listening and they might very well be.
I guess the first question is, that legislation that we read about that authorized the police without a warrant to supervise, survey, modify or delete social media, has that passed?
Is that proposed or is it urban legend?
I do believe it's passed.
Okay.
A lot of these laws, I probably wouldn't have even raised my eyebrow before the pandemic because that was not specific to the pandemic.
It's supposed to be targeting, and that's the way they frame everything.
That's supposed to target sexual predators online like child abusers, pedophiles.
They're very clever in how they do it because they say, if you challenge that legislation, you're supporting pedophilia.
You're almost worse than the pedophile.
But that's what they do.
Over the last year and a half, I've come to a realisation which was kind of hard for me because I...
I very much supported a lot of the counter-terrorism legislation pushed since September 11. I was very much in support of a lot of that.
And I'm embarrassed by the fact that I did not see what was coming out of that.
The fact is, all that legislation now is being used and abused to target...
Right-wing extremism, it's not being used to actually target who it was sold at the time to target.
At the time, it was sold to us as the only way to fight the threat of jihadi Islamic extremism.
The people that took down the World Trade Center, the people in Australia, the Bali bombers.
That was what we were sold.
Not even right-wing.
It's being used to target anti-vaxxers.
We see it in the States.
The FISA courts were used to surreptitiously obtain illegal warrants to spy on political campaigns.
And, you know, you say, like, it's my reflex reliving my life in retrospect.
I feel ashamed that I once actually unquestionably bought the narrative.
That there were WMDs in Iraq and that we had to do it.
It was an existential threat to the world.
I'm not saying it's true or false.
I'm just saying I now feel stupid at having reflexively and unquestioningly believe that as though there weren't two reports, one which said X and one which said Y, and it depends which one we want for the time being.
Yeah, you see the way all of...
Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry.
I'll go further.
And this one's like, in a way, is almost more painful for me because...
I'm a proud Zionist.
I love Israel to the core.
I fought there.
You know, and I never apologize.
I'm unapologetic about, and we can have that conversation with anyone anytime.
Usually they don't know what the hell they're talking about, which makes it even more fun.
But now, the pandemic in this exact, when we're talking about in the context of all of that, I've always been, and there are elements to it which I still support, but I've always been a strong supporter of some of the legislation in Israel which helped them fight the enemies.
And I think we need to, there is a distinction between laws that are used against your own citizens and external threats.
So, you know, when it comes to Israel, it's the Israeli-Palestinian threat because they're not Israeli citizens.
What I saw happen in Israel throughout the pandemic, and unfortunately with a leader that I was a big supporter of, Bibi, which I am in a lot of ways, I still think he's a king of statesmen.
You might not like, you know, a bit like Putin.
They're real leaders.
But when it came to the pandemic, I saw a lot of those laws.
And again, it's a counter-terrorism, but it was designed to fight.
And it's a lot of the technology that Israel created and designed that was then turned on the population of Israel, on the citizens of Israel, and used in the name of hell.
And for me, it was a confronting moment when I realized this because I've served in the idea.
I've always defended Israel's right to defend itself and the way they go about it.
And I still believe so.
I still think that if Israel didn't do a lot of the things they did, they wouldn't exist today.
But what I work up to during this pandemic is that even Israel, who designed a lot of the legislation, who passed a lot of legislation and designed a lot of technology, they were so easily able to I want to be clear that the point of difference here is that I still think each country,
so I think Australia, I think Canada, I do think that they should be able to have some almost overreaching powers when it comes to dealing with outside threats for non-citizens, for someone who's threatening their population, their citizens.
But there has to be a safeguard that cannot be abused to protect the citizens of that country from those laws being used against them.
Well, you know what, Avi?
And we had that ultimate safeguard called the Constitution Act of 1982.
And it says, supreme law of the land, the Constitution, but with a small little asterisk, except in the case of an emergency where everything goes well.
That's why I say to you, if I had to choose now, if I had to choose based on our lived experience throughout this pandemic, I would give up the safety and I cannot believe two, three years ago, I would give up the security, safety for our freedom.
It is not worth it anymore.
You know what?
You know what?
The same people, I can't believe through this pandemic, Some of the people that I used to argue with attack.
When I say attack, I'm saying I did not believe that their ideology would fit in with our democracy.
They are the people on the front line of this fight.
They're the ones actually standing and protecting democracy.
It's a lot of the minority immigrant groups, the Islamic community have been at the forefront of this.
And I go to a lot of these protests.
It's funny.
I go to a lot of these protests and obviously there's that Israel-Palestine thing that makes a lot of the Islamic community automatically, especially when you're unapologetic about your view that Israel has a right to exist.
But a lot of them, I've seen a lot of them who could get past that.
There are some that can't.
But a lot of them have come up to me in rallies and gone, listen, when you talk about Israel, I, you know.
No point in having the discussion.
We're not having that discussion.
But everything else, I absolutely agree with you.
And actually, I am thankful for that community here today.
And it's kind of, again, it's one of those things that's a little bit embarrassing because I think I got it wrong in...
In my fight back then, because now I see that in certain situations, they're actually our front, they're our line of defense.
They're the ones often holding that line for us.
I mean, I'll take it one step, not one step further, but frame it another way.
is that at the time you thought that that was the existential threat and now that both existential enemies 10 years ago realized that that was never the existential threat, that might have been the fabricated or manufactured threat, now we see what the actual existential threat is and it will make friends out of enemies which might be a good segue just to answer this question, can either of you two in one
I think this was the question King Solomon asked, or someone asked King Solomon, and his answer was, this too shall pass.
This will pass.
Sooner than later, with more or less damage, people will look back on this era the same way we look back on the folly of World War II, the same way we look back on the folly of World War I, Vietnam, North Korea.
But the problem is people have to suffer in order for the future world to look back on the folly and say, what the hell were they all thinking back then?
I just finished reading a book, EB Sledge, With the Old Breed.
And the book itself is to show how rugged and actually people who fought and died on the mountains of Iwo Jima or Okinawa for our freedom.
But you look back then and it was madness too.
Can you imagine that they were sending 19-year-old boys to be slaughtered on some ridge in some Pacific island because the world had decided at that point in time, that's how the young had to be sacrificed for the world.
It was a state of madness.
You know, the risks were different of what people willingly put themselves through.
And what men and women did back in the 40s and back in the, you know, the 20s, far different than the risk assessment they've made now that says we have to shut down the world because of this.
Excuse me, I just inhaled my own tongue.
Yeah, man, Avi, I mean, it's an amazing insight, an amazing retrospect now that you're looking back at who you perceive to be your existential enemies five years ago, and now they're your biggest allies in today's battle.
No jokes in the chat.
That's nothing what it is.
Okay, next question.
Are you not scared of the police?
Am I not scared?
Listen, there's the police.
There's the police.
There's a police command.
You'll be surprised how many cops come up to me behind, you know, when the cameras aren't rolling and shake my hand and tell me.
Well done, you know, good on you.
They hate doing what they're doing and I know I'm the first one to say just following orders is probably not a good excuse.
But I know a lot of cops that, you know, don't go to work on the days where there's protests or they use their discretion to avoid giving any fines.
We're about to release a story of one cop from Queensland that's...
That's it.
The line in the sound has been crossed, and he's out.
So, no, I'm not scared of police, and I'm certainly not scared of good police.
We need good police.
Am I worried about command?
I think that they're trying hard to fight me, but they've kind of realised that I'm not an easy target anymore.
So I'm actually, surprisingly enough, Probably, I haven't thought about it.
Today, I am less concerned about the police command than I would have been, let's say, a year and a half ago or two years ago when I was working for TR News where I didn't have the kind of support and backing that I do with Rebel.
I feel like I'm not an easy target anymore because if something happens, you don't want to get on Ezra's bad side of litigation.
I don't say forget Ezra, but not only Ezra.
First of all, Ezra, I know people don't like him.
I've gotten past that now.
Ezra and all of you at Rebel News are doing God's work.
Ezra is a man with as much of a hold the line, never forgive, never forget as Robert Barnes in the States.
But you have the world behind you.
It is true.
You get to a point where you're big enough.
You're right.
But for me, there was a lot of support before I did this.
Ezra's created this system where he can connect the world, so the support, the real-life support, and the issue.
And, you know, back before I joined Rebel, I had a lot of followers, but there was no way for me to get them to help me achieve whatever it is or defend me in whatever fight.
Ezra's created this amazing system, and I don't see anyone in the world to the level that Ezra has done it, and I know they're really...
Critics out there that call it whatever, but they're the best because they're never really your supporters.
They were never your supporters to begin with.
But Ezra created this system that allows us to do our journalism and not back down.
And when all these, whether it's the police, whether it's the state, whoever it is, whether it's other media companies who come for us and for me, now I'm not an easy target for them anymore because of what...
Ezra and Rebel have created and, of course, the support of all the people around the world that make that possible.
But I'm still shocked that today I'm confident.
People ask, how are you so confident walking to these things and not worry?
Because I know my rights.
And I'm not saying that in a way where you see on the internet where people know their rights and they're deluded.
I know my rights.
I know what the line is.
I know what I'm allowed to do.
I know what you're not allowed to do.
And most importantly...
I know that I have the ability to not threaten to take you to court because you see that all the time.
I'm going to sue you.
And at the end of the day, do you have $200,000 to sue him?
No.
But when I say I'm going to sue you, I know I can make that promise to the cock, to his face, and it's going to happen.
And that gives you a different level of security where...
Maybe I'm deluded.
Maybe this new bill that's coming through the Parliament today.
I had a friend that messaged me this morning.
He goes, just letting you know, I've read parts of what is the proposed bill.
Just put me on your visitors list at the jail.
Okay, now I'm going to bring this one up because I know Little Rock.
I mean, I've known Little Rock for as much as you can know.
An avatar, but I've seen him a lot.
Little Rock says, July 2nd, I was hospitalized with COVID.
Then for more than 10 days when I came to, my left leg had to be amputated from clots.
Two months in the hospital, IV exploded left arm causing nerve damage.
I still don't support mandatory VACs or lockdowns.
Setting that aside, Little Rock, I know I've seen you around your comments a lot and you've been a good supporter.
I mean, you've been active.
I didn't know that and I wish you all the best.
That is...
I mean, that's as serious as it gets, so I hope you're recovering well.
And fair point at the end is that at some point, life has risks, and being in prison, you can predict the future much more easily.
It's just a much more grim future to predict.
Avi, I mean, that's a fantastic point, is that when you make the threat, you have the infrastructure, and Ezra and the team execute on those promises.
I'd say you go into these areas.
It's true.
Nobody's going to beat you in the back of a police car because it would just be too much of a liability.
You're too big of a target to actually be abused, but you're big enough of a target that they can draft legislation around you.
What's the new legislation that's coming down the pipe?
We don't know exactly.
So it's all been very secret and they're meant to be.
The only people that seen it properly to review it were the ones that they were gunning.
Garnering the support, the votes that they needed.
That's the big discussion today, as in how are you rushing this through without anyone really being able to scrutinise it?
But yeah, it is scary because we're in a state where I am maybe not public enemy number one, but I'm in the top 10. And yeah, they do want to design legislation around stopping people like me.
That is not a big conspiracy theory.
That is fact.
There are certain parts of my lawsuits with the state that I, at this point, I can't tell people about.
But I am telling you, what they are doing is definitely that.
They did the same thing in Canada.
The Bill C-10, some people who knew what's going on, they nicknamed it the Rebel News Bill.
Because the one where they want to regulate online...
Social media platforms, the way the CRTC regulates radio and television, treat them like broadcasters.
I mean, it's quite clear who they were going after.
Maybe it's not only Rebel News.
Maybe it's True North.
Maybe it's post-millennial.
But it's quite clear.
They want to regain the control over the vast wild lands where they've lost it.
That's the internet.
That's what democratized information.
So it's not hard to leave.
Because before, all they needed was a cushiony relationship with The mainstream journalists, which they have, and there's, you know, that's no secret, and I know here the reason why you don't actually get the real questions in Parliament is because those journalists want the perks of being invited to go overseas with the state government when they go on different.
There are so many perks they get, perks I would never get.
That's why having me in state parliament questioning, at a press conference, questioning the government is the biggest risk.
Not because they think that I'm going to do an avi-mini or I'm some sort of violent threat.
I've never been violent at all in any of my interactions.
Everybody can watch them.
I'm usually the victim of violence.
What they're scared about is the fact that I, I'm not in their little clique.
And for me, there is no risk to actually ask them the question that The average Joe Blow on the street wants an answer to.
And that's the most scary thing to them.
And the problem is that I have a bigger reach than half of them.
You saw Alexa Lavoie's question to Trudeau during the federal debates where she says, you've just demonized rebel media.
And then she went to cite the Israeli, you know, what's going on in Israel with the...
Double jab plus the boosters.
And so she says, you know, is that what you have?
I think this was the question.
Is that what you have planned for Canada?
And then Trudeau says, I've said all I have to say about rebel media and turns his back.
It's arrogance and pomposity for which he has not yet received his political retribution, but it will come one day when he gets voted out as the leader of the party because he's such a toxic liability.
We're not there yet.
But it is amazing that you guys ask the real questions because...
It's true.
It's a click.
I guess people understand this.
You're not going to work your way up the ladder of politics at a law firm by challenging the higher-ups.
You play the game and then you become part of the boys club or the girls club or whatever, and you work your way up.
That's why we've gotten into this position in the first place.
More questions that I know people are asking.
Actually, hold on.
Little Rock is back.
He says, I'm just now back at work in a wheelchair until I get a prosthetic.
And this is one of the first live streams I've been able to catch.
I've watched you and Abby for long before COVID.
You two are true.
You two are true to the viewers.
Thank you very much, Little Rock.
Thank you, Little Rock.
And I think Little Rock, I don't want to disclose.
I think you're, I remember what you do for a living.
And I think, I don't think you're, I don't know how old you are.
I don't, I didn't think you were, I thought you were, you know, of the same vintage as us within a range, but we're now in the range.
What vintage are you?
How old are you, Abby?
I asked first.
I'm 42. I've just turned 36 10 days ago.
Okay, well, if you look down, I've got more grey hairs everywhere, and they've gotten exponentially worse under lockdown.
My beard is grey.
Look at that.
It's beautiful.
It adds distinction.
What do they call it?
Distinction, I think they say.
36. Double high.
That's good.
Double high.
Okay, so...
So here's the deal.
What's next?
What's coming up in Australia?
Are they easing them up?
Are they getting worse?
1st of November, international travel is supposed to open.
We'll see how that goes.
It'll be interesting if the federal government get to control that or the states, again, are going to really control that.
Thanks, Ben.
Because who knows?
Western Australia, for example, has been completely closed off from the world the entire time, including from Victor.
Like, I can't travel to Western Australia still because they're so scared of any numbers.
So we don't know.
And I guess whatever happens, we'll be here to follow it and something's going to happen.
Now, another question.
I'll read these two.
Any chance of meeting between you and Ezra, like Viva and Barnes, any time in the future?
You've met Ezra in person, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We met in England a bunch of times.
Okay.
Oh, speaking of England, Tommy Robinson.
Do you know, just very quick, any news updates with Tommy?
Mate, anyone that wants to know what Tommy's up to, Telegram, he's killing it, and I think he's joined Getter.
Yeah, Tommy's Tommy.
I love Tommy.
We get on.
Real well.
I think the media has certainly portrayed him in a certain way that is far from the truth.
He's a top bloke.
He's always up for a laugh.
And anyone that knows me, I think, knows that that's probably the most important thing.
You can have the absolute opposing worldview to me, politically, socially, whatever.
But if you can have a laugh...
We can be mates.
And so he's been covering a lot of what the pandemic stuff.
He got rid of TR News.
There's been a couple of lawsuits there that he's been fighting off.
And obviously, it's a lot harder.
Again, I was working for his company before.
And it's so hard because he's up against the media.
He's up against the big tech.
He's up against...
The government, he's just, everybody's come at him at once and he's still, even with all that, managed to really, you know, spread his message on, you know, in these little corners of the internet, which are growing parts of the internet.
So things like Telegram and Get- I think you'll see a lot more of him once, whatever this shift that's happening that- People don't realise we're living in right now the shift of this power of controlling the narrative online.
I think you'll see a lot more of Tommy, but he's doing good.
Okay, awesome.
Check him out on Telegram.
Say that again?
Check him out on Telegram.
It's under his name, Tommy Robinson, on Telegram.
He's got over 100,000 followers there, which is the guy that they tried to shut down.
Everything is shutting him down.
Every time he pops his head up, people want to hear from him.
That's the important part.
It's like the Alex Jones phenomenon.
You can shut him off of all social media, but people will follow him.
Like it or leave it, he speaks the truth to certain people, and they'll find him wherever.
And shutting him down just legitimizes him.
No, no.
But they're not due for a while.
New Zealand, I couldn't tell you.
I don't know New Zealand.
But I wouldn't be surprised if by the time New Zealand comes around to a new election, there just are no elections because I think New Zealand...
While we say Australia's fallen, I think New Zealand fell before the coronavirus and what we just witnessed is...
Acceleration.
I'm starting to feel that way about Canada, actually.
Oh, by the way, in Canada.
Well, like, New Zealand's even more scary because of their real connection and love, you know, bond with the CCP, with China.
It's just mind-boggling where they...
Where they're sitting.
Anyway, so New Zealand, I couldn't tell you.
Australia.
So Victoria, I think we're due for an election here in about a year and a half.
And unfortunately, Victorians have a very, very short memory.
And like I said, at some point in this thing, Stockholm Syndrome is real.
We got it in Quebec.
Like François Legault, the man who locked us in our houses for five months under curfew.
People bitch and complain about it.
And then after he lets us out, he's like, huh, it's not so bad.
I forgot about the five months of abuse that I just injured.
He was a hero.
He saved us all.
He saved us all.
By the way, they haven't increased ICU bed capacities in two years, by and large.
I think in one province they actually reduced it.
And if they increase it, it's by marginal amounts.
Whatever.
One question I had for you, Avi.
There was a recent protest.
Where, from what I understood, they were actually using, not live rounds, but rubber bullets, tear gas.
We saw the videos.
Apparently, they shut down public transit to prevent people from coming.
They shut down actual traffic.
People have to bike in, walk in, run in.
Exaggeration?
Are those things actually happening and those are actual accurate accounts?
There was probably a three-week period where...
That was the daily occurrence.
That's what was happening.
I think the first report I did where it was happening around me, I was kind of thrown and then, like anything, came used to it after a couple of days and that became the new normal.
Counter-terrorism police in armoured vehicles rocking up to confront unarmed, peaceful protesters marching for freedom in our streets.
Never, ever, ever did I think that I would witness that in my wildest dreams in Melbourne, Australia.
But that's how far we went.
And that's what, like I said to you before, I find it funny when people say, you know, no, Australia hasn't fallen.
That's an exaggeration.
I guess we can, let's define fall.
To me, once you get to that point.
You've fallen.
If you have to define the fallen music, I haven't hit rock bottom yet.
Define rock bottom.
I haven't puked in a urinal at a bar at three in the morning, so I'm not an alcoholic.
Exactly.
And that's what it is to me.
And I think those that are not living here and that have skin in the game to support the government no matter what, and those that don't have a cushy relationship with...
You know, the establishment, then you've fallen.
You've fallen.
And they say, they have the chutzpah to tell me, or not me, but I see them often when they're challenged.
They go, oh, go to a third world country and see what fallen looks like.
I'm like, I can't swear on your thing.
Mate, I've been there.
I've been there.
I've also served in combat in real life.
I've seen what...
And I've seen these same techniques being deployed on our citizens.
And it's funny because, you know, some of my detractors, let's call them, you know, they mock me when I say, when I was condemning Victoria Police and the government here for deploying these tactics against their own citizens because I served in the IDF.
And I admit, some of those tactics deployed against...
Palestinians, you want to know the difference?
One, it's an exaggeration to think that it was in the same way.
We're not talking about innocent Palestinians marching through Gaza and Israeli armored vehicles come and fire tear gas.
That's not what happens.
But one big difference, you're talking about, and this is what we were discussing before, is you're talking about your citizens and the enemy.
And yes, unfortunately, right now, in Israel-Palestine conflict, that's the difference.
You have the IDF, and then you have the population which are meant to be ruled by the Palestinian Authority.
So if you want to condemn anyone for their behavior towards their own sin, it's the Palestinian Authority.
But Israel obviously has the right, and I was a part of that, and I stand by that, in defending Israel's sovereignty against...
External threat.
But when you start to bring that, I would have a problem.
You would be right to say that I lose my thing to condemn that kind of behavior.
If the Israeli government, the Israeli army, if I was part of any group that shot at Israelis, that deployed those counterterrorism, I don't have a problem.
This is, I guess, in short.
I don't have a problem with deploying counterterrorism tactics against terrorism.
And against external terrorism.
My problem is, when all those tax-funded, you know, the armoured vehicle that we bought for, and the same, you would have seen them all in black, counter-terrorism units being deployed on the streets of Melbourne against the people they were designed to protect.
That's my problem.
And we saw that.
You know, I saw the same thing happen in Hong Kong.
I saw that happen.
The CCP stole policing where they did deploy their counter-terrorism and their rights and all those, the same tactics that were deployed here in Melbourne were deployed in Hong Kong against our own citizens.
One difference.
In Hong Kong, though, me, as a journalist, at least as a Western journalist, was safer at the time.
Not discussing now.
I talked with Ezra about going back, and he says our insurance may not cover it.
Forget your insurance.
How about your freedom?
I'm joking.
But what I'm saying, my point is that back then, when I was there, as a Western journalist, I was safe, safer than I am here.
How many times have I been taken to the ground, arrested, you know, threatened, bullied?
Everything here, as a journalist, and as a journalist that they all freaking know here, every single copy knows the little midget Avi Amini.
Not just because I'm good looking.
How tall are you, Avi?
I'm small.
Well, how small is small?
We're in the realm of small here.
Are you 5 '6"?
I actually don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't want to.
I don't know.
But listen, I'm tall at the bench here.
Well, okay, dude.
Now I'm going to have to go look it up online.
Your measurements are out there somewhere.
The one thing that drives me nuts about Israel...
I actually don't know if I had...
I'm not that embarrassed.
I just don't know.
I don't know.
It makes me feel better about having to count out the states.
We got a short off here.
Oh, yeah, we got it.
Oh, by the way, just so no one takes that what drives me nuts about Israel out of context, I am shocked to see coming out of Israel.
Like, we've been referencing the Nuremberg Code for a little while now.
Talking about informed consent, why the Nuremberg Code was even instated in the first place.
And when I see that, you know, like the country, the one country that has now stepped it up to boosters, double boosters in order to be fully VAX compliant, you know, there's a certain irony and there's a certain shocking irony coming out of the fact that it's Israel, which was by and large the reason for which the Nuremberg Code was, or at the very least, you know, contextually.
The backdrop of the Nuremberg Code.
And now, I don't know if we can talk about informed consent when you're talking about boosters and vaccinating kids.
That's what's irritating me a lot on the geopolitical side of things.
But that was the rant.
It's funny because I see often in the comments people like, what about Israel?
Mate, I love Israel.
I love Israel.
And I will always defend its right to exist.
I am sickened by the government's handling of COVID and everything that's happening today.
I love Australia.
The fact that I condemn the government here for their behaviour is because I love Australia.
What I see them doing here is, it's not only shocking, it's scary to think where we're going as a country.
Same as Israel.
Same as the US.
Same as Canada.
Everyone.
Everyone.
The only place that seems really free today.
It's Florida.
The ultimate irony?
Poland is not looking all that unfree these days either.
Wouldn't it be the ultimate irony?
My granddad left Poland in 1936.
Wouldn't it be the ultimate irony if I end up in...
It's nuts.
And it's a good point.
You're vocal in your protest because of your love.
But at some point, we all have to ask ourselves a question.
Has the country left us to the point of no return?
I'm still looking at Canada with some hope.
Some good stuff coming up, encouraging stuff coming up, but we'll see.
This week was the first time that leftists have been calling for my deportation to Israel.
And I just find it so funny because a couple of years ago, I was really vocal about these youth gangs, which were mostly made up of South Sudanese kids.
And I was saying...
Well, not kids, teenagers, but they're very violent gangs.
And I was saying, I was advocating at the time, if you're found to be part of the...
Like, we're going way too soft.
They were doing home invasions, bashing, robbing.
Like, it was some shocking violence we were seeing on our streets.
And I was saying, if they are new immigrants, we should deport them.
Why are we taking people in that are doing this to...
This is their way to say things.
And back then...
The same people that are now calling for my deportation, they were the ones calling me racist for making that argument two years ago.
There is no loss of irony in this world in which we live.
Oh, the other thing before I forget now.
We all grew up with the that's a first world problem type meme thing.
And people say, oh, it's a first world problem.
So here's the thing, and this is not a question.
It's a question of the good fortune that you have to be born in, I don't think first, second, or third world, but a developed country.
But if I was born and raised in a developed country with developed constitutional law, to then say, well, unless it's a undeveloped country problem, you have nothing to complain about, if they lock you up without...
Basic civil rights.
You don't have anything to complain about because that's what they do in undeveloped countries or underdeveloped countries.
I say you've lowered the measurement of what it means to make advancement and not deterioration.
So I expect first world problems from the first world.
And when we start having third world problems, and I'm using the term in a sense, I don't like the terms period.
I'm just using the way that people use them.
When I start experiencing third world problems in what was hitherto a first world.
You've got a problem because it means you're going backwards and on forwards.
And so, good.
What do you have to complain about?
Shut up and stay in your house after 8 o 'clock?
Not exactly.
We didn't fight for these rights and we didn't develop these rights so that they can be taken back.
We fought for these so that developing nations can know what rule of law is and how things work in a sense of advancement and not a sense of deterioration.
So that first world problem meme, I've grown tired of.
Yep.
What do you have next on the board for you?
First of all, you've got an entire day ahead of you now.
What are you doing today?
There's a lot scheduled for today, but once I end off here, I've got to check my phone.
That keeps buzzing, so I don't know which staff, what's going on, but a busy day ahead.
There's a busy few weeks ahead.
Okay, now I think everybody knows, but just in case they don't, where can they find you, Abby?
You know what I set up?
I feel really clever.
If people want to find me, go followavi.com and it gives you everything.
Did you buyavi.com?
Followavi.com.
I've got Avi and Mini, but...
Oh, it's called followavi.com.
Followavi.com because when people ask me where to follow you, you go followavi.com.
Let's see if I'm right.
I was going to say, if you boughtavi.com, That would have been one heck of a purchase because that domain can't be cheap.
So it looks like it's, yeah, if I go there, it goes to solo.to forward slash Avi Yamini.
And then it's literally got every single thing to follow me on there.
How good is that?
It can't actually get much easier.
Followavi.com.
I couldn't even get freiheit.com, but that's actually, that makes a lot of sense.
But that would be like, I think followavi is just so easy.
I can't even put my last name.
When I do Avi Yamini, right?
I have to buy double domains because some people spell it right and some people spell it Yemeni, which I get it because it probably should be Yemeni.
But from Israel, we pronounced it Yemeni.
And I think it's also suitable.
I am Yemeni.
That was a joke.
I love followavi.com.
It's a very easy way to do it.
Theophrasis, because I love Israel too.
And then there was...
Hold on, I wanted to bring this one up because I like the comment.
Right here.
Highlight green.
The way we are going, the best third world can expect is a second world life.
Some first world problems are a fight for everyone.
And that's very well put, Francis.
Chartrand.
From Canada, actually, Francis.
I love that avatar.
It's a fair point.
The whole issue is you're not going to advance the world by pulling back.
I hate the word first world.
Developed nations, you know, nations with constitutional systems that were set in place specifically to prevent this type of usurpation and exploitation of power that Dictator Dan seems to be doing every day.
All right, man, what else?
When do we do this again?
Mate, I have all the time in the world for you, Viva.
I love you.
I know.
I say I love following.
I've been following you.
I said it at the time.
You have courage that most people don't have.
You might have a little bit of reckless insanity, but you might very well be the individual that the time needs for the time that we're in because you are, as a matter of fact.
I appreciate it, bro.
Everyone at Rebel News, I've ceased.
I don't think I was ever apologetic, but you guys, I was questioning at one point.
I'm no longer questioning.
You guys are doing The lores work everywhere and people don't even appreciate it, but they will in due time.
So, Avi, let me see here.
Okay, we'll go maximum eight more minutes.
Let's just see if we can get some more questions that I didn't answer because I think I did get everything.
Oh, so someone had asked about the tensions with China in Taiwan.
I mean, how does that materialize in Australia?
We'll see.
I think Australia does have a...
Strong stance.
It's probably one of the issues that I credit where credit is due.
I think the government here has stood up to China, especially throughout this pandemic, in a way that mostly I'm supportive.
But that's more within rhetoric.
In practice, there's a lot of problems here in Australia with regards to The Chinese infiltration of our political system, of our business class.
But I feel like there is political will here to deal with that.
A great example is the fact that we had the Belt and Road Initiative here in Victoria where Dictator Dan, which I'm not...
I can probably legitimately call him Dictator Dan now that we know that he's trying to get this bill through.
He tried to sign us on to the Belt and Road and the federal government stepped in and cancelled that.
So I think Australia, at least on a federal level, is starting to stand up to China and whether it's in support of Taiwan.
I think supporting Taiwan is a side note.
I think we need to as a world to support Taiwan.
If witnessing what happened to Hong Kong didn't wake people up, Taiwan is next.
Now, I'm going to bring this one up because it asks a question that I've actually forgotten that I had in my mind.
Viva, please ask about the newly passed gun laws in VIC-10.
Ten-year bans owning firearms for mask-wearing infringements.
First of all, what are the gun rights like in Australia?
I don't know if it's...
I don't think it's any laws.
The gun laws here are really, really strict, right?
I know from experience with some of our Fight the Fines cases, what happens is if you have a gun license, which is hard enough to get for hunting, you can't have firearms here for self-defense.
It's for hunting and sport and very, very, very controlled.
So if you have a registered firearm, if you're a registered firearm owner and you got a COVID infringement, if you then go...
To fight the infringement, so you say you want to have it heard in court, it turns out, so what they do is they revoke the fine and they issue a summons and a brief of evidence and whatever, and then you're fighting a charge.
The moment that happens, they come to get your guns and you lose your license in that period because you have a pending criminal matter in front of the court.
So it's another way, and the same goes for security license in Victoria.
I don't know about other states in Victoria because there are two states, I think it's Victoria and New South Wales, where the security industry, which is relevant to what I'm going through now because of the security that we use, but the only two states where police actually...
The police are the ones who govern the security industry.
So the police, at their discretion, can cancel a security license and a gun license.
So the police here, the same body that controls both of them within the Victoria Police.
And if you have a COVID infringement, so if you get caught without a mask and you want to fight that So you don't want to pay the $200.
You want to fight it.
You want to have your day in court in front of a judge.
They're going to withdraw the fine, issue you the court summons, and that's when they're going to take your security license, so your income as a security guard, and your gun license as a gun owner.
The gun licenses in Australia, same as Canada, I imagine pistols, small arms.
Very restricted, but you just need to get a standard license for a hunting rifle?
You can get hunting rifles, yeah.
But it's very controlled.
I'll be surprised if Canada's even...
I think Canada might be one step.
I mean, Canada, you can't have a handgun, whatever they call them, a small arm, totally, unless you get a very special permit, in which case it's only for the gun.
Security.
Yeah.
And a long arm, like, you know, you go do the firearm safety course, you get permission, you can get a license.
Bunch of restrictions, and the penalties for the laws are prohibitively painful that it's a deterrent and not an issue of safety.
Okay, so it's similar.
That's nuts.
There's nothing you can say about it.
It's like weaponizing everything about COVID for the purposes of exercising maximum control over the population.
Yep.
All right.
Avi, I think we've got it.
Well, let's save some stuff for the next time, but thank you.
Stick around.
We will say our proper goodbyes afterwards.
Everyone in the chat, you know where to find Avi.
Spread the word.
Followavi.com.
Followavi.com.
A-V-I.com.
Rebel News, Ezra Levant, Alexa LaVoie.
There's so many others, but Rebel News is covering it in Canada, Australia.
Check them out.
Thank you for tuning in.
Tomorrow night, we have a sidebar with Robert Barnes.
It is Chase Hughes, the body panelist, behavior panelist.
It's going to be fantastic.
So everyone else in the chat, Super Chats, thank you very much.
Avi, stick around.
We'll say our proper goodbyes.
Everyone, see you all tomorrow.
Good to be here with you guys.
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