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Aug. 7, 2022 - The Unexplained - Howard Hughes
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Edition 654 - Kenton Cool, Mountaineer
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Across the UK, across continental North America and around the world on the internet, by webcast and by podcast, my name is Howard Hughes and this is The Unexplained.
Now I hope that everything is good with you.
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Okay, guest on this edition, it's going to be a slightly shorter podcast, this, but an interesting conversation that comes from my TV show, which was the last TV show before I had the recent problem that I had, which is why you haven't heard it before now.
This is a man called Kenton Kuh.
He is one of the United Kingdom's most accomplished mountaineers, and he comes from a place in Berkshire where there are no mountains.
But as you will hear, he is an expert on mountains like Everest and K2, two of course of the most difficult peaks in the world.
There are many strange, unusual, and unexplained stories connected with climbing Everest for one, but climbing all mountains.
And even though this isn't strictly unexplained, so it's not strictly all about ghosts and it's certainly not about UFOs, it's, I think, a very interesting conversation with a very interesting person.
And, you know, on a very hot day, discussions of places that are snowy and sub-zero, they're actually quite comforting in a way.
So that's what we're going to do on this edition of The Unexplained.
Like I say, this is a shorter edition.
I'm hoping to get things completely back on track in the next week or two.
I'm just so far behind myself after what happened recently with the hearing incident that I'm going to take time to crank back fully into action.
But this is a hugely interesting and very nice guy from my TV show, Kenton Cool, Mountaineer.
Let me introduce to you then, Kenton Edward Cool, born in 1973 according to his biography, an English mountaineer and mountain guide, one of Britain's leading alpine and high-altitude climbers, has reached the summit of Mount Everest 16 times according to this biography, including leading Sarano Fine's 2008 and 2009 expeditions, which were notable in themselves.
He's completed more than 20 notable expeditions in the Greater Ranges, and in 2013 became the first person to climb Notse, Everest and Lutzi in a single push without going back to base camp.
Now, for most people, it's more than they could achieve to get up Everest and for some they'll get to the top.
But to do three peaks, that's astonishing.
Kenton, thank you very much for coming on.
No, my pleasure, Howard.
You actually missed out that I was born in Slough.
I know, I know.
I think you and I have talked before on a radio station called Radio Bakshi years and years ago, and I was serving my time there, as they say.
But I mean, that was going to be my first question.
And I'm sure you've been asked it a million times, probably by me the last time we spoke.
You know, there are no mountains in Slough.
I know it incredibly well, like the back of that hand.
So how, being born and raised in Slough, very handy for Windsor, how'd you become a mountaineer?
Well, it's quite close to Heathrow Airport, which is quite good, because we don't really have any big mountains in the UK.
I mean, Ben Nevers is the biggest we got.
That said, the Scottish Heroes pack a big punch.
But my humble beginnings were at Brunel University at the climbing wall in the university, which at the time, I was 17 years old.
That climbing wall was state of the art.
I'm not even sure it's there anymore.
It used to be at the back of the sports hall.
And that's where it all began.
Just climbing, bouldering, as we call it, on the wall at Brunel.
Can I tell you, there was something there?
Well, I can imagine what it might be like in the next 48 hours.
Now, I used to do that.
And of course, it's exciting to do it.
You think, yeah, look what I'm achieving.
And you look down and, you know, you're however many feet up.
But it's one thing to do that and think, I kind of like this.
And another thing to think, I want to climb the great peaks.
You know, how did you make that progression?
Well, I think no matter what we do, I mean, I used to be a hockey player, which was quite convenient living in Slough because there's numerous fantastic hockey teams around there.
But no matter what we do, we kind of need a mentor or a hero or somebody that we can aspire to.
You've already referenced, I was born in 1973, puts me in a certain genre pre-internet, if we can actually believe that.
So it was books.
That was our source of reference.
And it was two climbers in particular.
So Chris Boninton and Doug Scott.
And they started rock climbing.
And then very quickly, it was the Alps, it was the big mountains of the Himalayas.
And for me, an impressionable young guy in Slough leaping through these books, it was, wow, this is what I want to do.
It was the obvious journey for me to embark on.
Even, look, I read some of those books too, and I can always remember the images of those two aforementioned people.
And they'd always have a lot of frostbite going on and a beard, usually a beard somewhat fringed in ice.
I have to say, I was humbled by it, but I was not inspired to do it.
Well, I mean, inspiration comes from lots of different places, doesn't it?
And the beards, where the beards were certainly of the era, you see the pictures of them at one another's weddings.
They've got these big beards.
They'll be on trend now, certainly in places like Shoreditch.
But it was, for me, it was mesmerizing.
I was a Boy Scout, so I knew what camping was.
And maybe high altitude climbing is just a way to get to the most extreme campsites on the world.
I don't know.
But I didn't come from a climbing background, but there's something about climbing just grabbed me.
And I literally just ran with it.
And I have done all my career.
And certainly don't regret a single moment or single decision that I've made when it comes to climbing the big mountains.
I love it.
It's a sense of freedom.
I love your enthusiasm for it.
And, you know, this show is the unexplained.
So we talk about a lot of things that are unusual and different and odd.
Instances where people are perhaps pushed to the very limit and strange things happen to and around them.
So we will talk about some of those things.
Is the greatest challenge for a climber today, and I'm sure it was when you were a kid, but for a climber in 2022, is it still Everest?
No, I mean, it probably isn't.
I mean, so Everest clearly is the biggest mountain in the world, first climbed in 1953, as we all know.
Tenzin Norge and Sir Edmund Hillary climbed it back in 1953.
And 99% of people that will climb that mountain every single year will climb one of two routes.
The North Ridge, first climbed by the Chinese, or the South East Ridge, first climbed by Hillary and Tenzing back in 53.
But there are a myriad of really hard climbs on that mountain, which nobody ever attempts.
So it's quite a hard one to say.
There are harder climbs, definitely.
I work in the industry.
I commercially lead people to the top of Everest, people that don't necessarily have the experience.
Perhaps they don't necessarily have the technical capability.
So I will look after them.
And do you guarantee to get them there?
I beg your pardon?
Do you guarantee to get them there?
No, no, no.
I don't guarantee to you can't guarantee anything in the big hills.
So when I first, our first touch point with a client, say, I'm not saying you do, but say you want to climb over it.
We might sit down and have supper in town.
Perhaps we even go to Slough.
Who knows?
Well, I feel you should.
Well, some great places to meet in some way.
Exactly.
I won't make a promise to you, but I say, okay, my job as a professional mountain guide is to bring you back through the front door.
Now, whether we gain a summit along the way, that's great.
But ideally, we're going to come home alive with 10 fingers, 10 toes as friends, having had a great time.
And if we gain a summit, well, that's the cherry on top of the icing.
But none of it, honestly, none of it is a guarantee.
I will train with you.
I will go to other mountains.
I will sort your nutrition, your fitness, your blah, blah, blah, to a point that I think you have a legitimate chance of climbing Everest and getting back down.
But there's no guarantees on that mountain.
It's a dangerous mountain, no matter how commercial we make it, no matter how many sherpes we use, how much oxygen we use.
It's still dangerous.
It's the highest point on the earth.
We're not supposed to be there.
So because people read books about this and because they see people achieving these things, they kind of blind themselves to the fact that an awful lot of people die in the pursuit of getting.
I mean, it must be a wonderful feeling to get to the top.
I've watched films of people at the top.
I'm sure it looks very different when you're actually there.
You can tell me.
But the films look pretty impressive.
But the fact of the matter is, I checked up on statistics.
If we think about Everest, more than 300 people have died, haven't they, trying to get there to the top?
Yeah, but again, you've got to keep that into context.
I forget what the number is these days.
I think there's been close to perhaps even over 10,000 ascents by 7,000 people, because a number of people summit multiple times like I have.
So when you look at it in the broader sense of things, 300 people compared with 7,000 people climbed it.
And then if you look at the statistics, and you can make statistics tell you anything, a lot of those deaths or the greater proportion of those deaths would have occurred pre the commercial era that we're in today.
That doesn't take anything away from it.
This year, there was one death on Everest.
That's unusually low.
So that's because the equipment is better?
The equipment is better.
The training is better.
Yeah, the equipment's better.
The understanding of the mountains better.
The Sherpa teams are more professional.
And above all, weather forecasting.
That's arguably the biggest tool that we have these days, which they never had.
Even 20 years ago, the weather forecasting was a bit so-so.
But between the weather forecasting and experience and better Sherpa teams, you know, the local guys that we use who are the backbone, the real heroes of the Himalayas, between all that, we can't safeguard someone's ascent.
But, you know, we can be pretty sure that we're going to come home in one piece.
And we've got to say the technology is better.
The weather forecasting, like you said, is better.
Many things are on your side now, which means that fewer people die.
But we haven't got to kid ourselves.
And I think if you watch, you know, if you read magazines today or you look at TV programs, they make it kind of look like, oh, yes, I'm sitting back here with a mug of coffee.
I think I'm going to get in touch with Kenton.
And I was thinking about Ibiza next year, but I'm going to go to Everest.
Actually, what we've got to remember is that even getting to the local airport is a major feat for the pilots who do it, isn't it?
Even getting in there to Kathmandu is a huge thing to do.
Yeah, I mean, I think Kathmandu is considered one of the most dangerous international airports in the world.
There's a terrible air crash back in the mid-90s, which killed, there was a very prominent British climber, Mark Miller, lost his life in that air crash.
And then from Kathmandu, you've got to get to Lukla, which is the start of the base camp trek.
And Lukla is quite often heralded as the most dangerous airport in the world.
Whether that's actually true or not, quite how they quantify that, I'm not sure.
But it is seat of your pants.
Your heart is definitely in your mouth.
The runway is inclined to 15 degrees.
There's a brick wall at the end of the runway.
There's no margin for error.
No instrument landing.
And you haven't even climbed anything about the whole expedition.
I mean, you do that and you haven't even started climbing anything yet.
So look, this is petrifying.
Even in 2022, it's not for the faint of heart.
I mean, you say that, but you've done it 20 times or whatever it is.
I'm fascinated by all of this, but there is another aspect to this, and that is one of the reasons that we're talking tonight on a show like this one.
I mean, number one, I love to have interesting people on, and you certainly tick that box with a great big gold tick.
There is a lot of mystery around ascent of any of these mountains, but Everest in particular, because so many people have been in pursuit of that goal of getting to the top, and many people have died trying to get there, and many of their bodies remain upon the mountain.
But there are many, many mysteries, people reporting unusual phenomena, assistance on the mountain from people who apparently do not exist but came to help them.
I mean, there was a story that I was reading.
I don't know whether you, I'm sure you'll know this one, and I hope you don't mind me quoting it to you.
This was Dougal Hastin and Doug Scott, two people who were always on the TV when you were a kid and when I was slightly older than you.
It would have been September 1975, the first British to climb the mountain on the Chris Bonnet and Everest expedition, which became known as Everest the Hard Way.
And they were coming down from the summit and they had an impromptu bivouac and they run out of oxygen.
And the talk is that there was a third person.
Is this the same story?
Exactly.
That they had some kind of phantom assistance.
Exactly.
So the guys come down.
It was a very heralded ascent.
And the book actually was the inspiration for me to get into climbing.
It was the first climbing book I ever read.
And it was late in the day.
And they're coming down and they've run out of supplementary oxygen, essentially the oxygen we carry in our oxygen tanks.
And they get to the South Summit and they decide that what they're going to do, they're going to Bivoak, which is spend the night out, which at the time, I think it was the highest ever Bivowak survived.
They didn't really have anything with them.
So they dug into the snow.
I think Doug Scott didn't even have a down suit.
He just had a windsuit over top of his thermopile, a one-piece suit.
And they sat there throughout the night.
They've got no stove, no food, no water, no oxygen.
And they're massaging one another's feet to try to keep the circulation.
And I think it was Doug Scott who writes about it.
It was one of them, but I think it was Scott who writes about it saying that he ended up having a conversation with a third party in the snow hole, quite an in-depth conversation.
And he was absolutely adamant that this person was there answering him back.
And they were having a dialogue, which went on apparently for hours.
And when they were both getting their things together in the morning to head back down to safety, they had a conversation, the two people that were actually there, Hastin and Scott.
And one of them said to the other one, were you aware of this person who was with us last night?
He's like, well, there's no one else there.
And Scott was adamant that there was a third person there and credits the third person for helping him get through the night without frostbite, no serious injuries at all.
And that particular bivouac survival really triggered something in Doug Scott that you could climb at super high altitude, a high 8,000 metre plus altitude without supplementary oxygen and make the summits of these mountains.
If you have assistance from a phantom helper.
They'd all been climbed with oxygen.
But, you know, afterwards, I mean, the account that I've got of this, and I'll quote it to you, Haston and Scott claimed the Phantom Climber helped them make it through the night, which is basically what we're saying.
And they thought that they had been helped.
Now, I guess that leads to the question, and there are many other weird stories that we'll get into around Everest in particular.
Could this be by the time they're that high up and the conditions are that bad and you're that tired, you start seeing things?
Oh, 100%.
So, I mean, I don't want to sort of peepee on anybody's mythical bonfire, but you're super high, you're dehydrated, you're physically tired, and then you run out of oxygen.
And what oxygen does, it keeps us warm high on the mountain.
But what happens to our brains when you remove oxygen, when you starve your brain of oxygen, your cognitive thought process disappears.
So our ability to think rationally is very quickly inhibited.
And I think this is a classic case of hypoxia, where the brain is starved of oxygen, and you start having these internal dialogues with yourself, which actually don't.
Well, who knows?
I mean, Doug Scott was quite famed for Being quite partial to smoking things that perhaps he shouldn't be smoking.
So I don't know whether that's a mental effect.
I mean, the guy was a hero of mine.
I knew him very well to his sad death about two years ago, it was.
And one of the greatest climbers of all time.
What he did was phenomenal.
He's another one of those heroes, you know, with the frost-bitten face and the beard.
Oh, 100%.
What he did with Chris Bonington was beyond measure.
And Duke Hastin himself, a phenomenal climber.
There's controversy all around his career.
Ended up living and working out Le Lausanne in Switzerland and died in a very tragic avalanche, which most people said that he should have been well aware that it was an avalanche with zone.
He shouldn't have been there skiing on his own and all these things.
So there's controversy from his time up in Scotland where he got involved in a hit and run accident.
They sadly, I think he served time in prison for that, battled a little bit with alcohol, but was, again, one of the most phenomenal visionary colourful characters.
But this instance in 1975 is because of the detail involved in this.
A lot of people would have got into that situation, I'm sure, and probably died.
They were on the cusp of death, and they believed that there had been a dialogue with something or someone there that just happened to assist them in getting through the night.
I mean, undoubtedly, most climbers would have died.
I mean, there were some of the strongest climbers in the world at the time.
Not only did they not die, but they had no frostbite.
It was quite remarkable.
By the way, how do you come out of that without frostbite?
I think it just shows the strength of character that they had.
The fact that they burrow into a snow cave, that's going to hugely help.
Because you don't need to look too far.
And where they were was pretty much the same spot that Rob Hall made famous in the 96 disaster, which was documented into thin air, space in the name of the author, but a very famous book, which was made into the film.
I think it was just called Everest.
Rob Hall framelessly on the radio to his wife as he's passing away in the eye of a storm.
This was the same place.
Admittedly, Hassan and Scott aren't in a storm, but they're out of oxygen.
They've got rudimentary equipment.
It's phenomenal.
I mean, is it a mystery?
Most people will not have survived it, let alone come back with no frost.
So to that extent, although we don't know the full ins and outs of it, we never will, in all probability, because, as you say, the two principles are no longer with us.
But what an astonishing story, of which there are many connected with Everest.
Jamie, thank you very much.
We were talking about television sets and the old CC TV ones, you know, the ones with the glass tubes in them rather than a flat screen, which is what almost all TVs are now.
Jamie tells me that he records this show every week on a VHS recorder, you know, with the old tapes.
Jamie, that's great.
Is it S VHS or is it just standard VHS?
Please let me know.
I've still got, actually, I've got two VHS recorders.
My colleagues will not be surprised by that because I have most things and it's deeply sad.
Also, back to Chewy the Dog and the saga of the dog who watches the show that James told me about.
Apparently, when I said the word Chewy, which is the name of the dog, he woke up, okay?
Which apparently he doesn't do for James, but does for me.
So he's gone back to sleep now.
Should I do this?
Yeah, my producer's nodding.
Yeah, let's do it.
Okay, let's do this.
James, are you ready?
Okay.
He's fast asleep.
Is he a little stomach going up and down?
Okay.
Is he having doggy dreams chasing things?
Let's just see.
Chewy.
Come on, Chewy.
Oh, good boy, Chewy.
It's hotter than you think.
Let's get back quickly to Kenton Cool, mountaineer and remarkable guy.
Kenton, a lot of love for you coming in tonight.
You know, doing what you do and what you've done with your life is just remarkable.
I don't have words.
I'm supposed to know words, but I don't have one that fits.
Let's talk about some of the strange stuff that you have to deal with when you're climbing Everest.
And I'm thinking here of something that I've seen depicted on some TV programs.
A lot of TV programs don't go there.
But the bodies of those who fall by the wayside, the ones who don't make it, who have to be left and ultimately freeze to death or they have insufficient oxygen to survive, they die on the mountain or they die close to the top.
They die somewhere on the route and they have in their numbers, as we've said, for decades.
These bodies litter the course, don't they?
Quite literally, going up.
And sometimes the differing climatic conditions will reveal the body, yeah?
Yeah, it can do.
So there's a number of quite renowned bodies on the mountain.
And rather sadly, there's one now on the south side, which is very graphic.
And you almost have to climb around this poor individual.
He's currently positioned at the bottom of what is known as the Hillary Step, the last little hard bit before the summit.
So this is on the south side of Everest.
He's an American climber.
I believe his Christian name was Don.
And as I said, it's pretty graphic and in your face.
You first have to step past this individual to continue your journey to the top.
And I was there with my client this year, a lovely English girl who resides in the US now.
And the fact that Don was there kind of slipped my mind.
And we come around the corner and there he is.
He's kind of sat on his little rock perch and it really unhinged Rebecca, which was really sad.
I can completely relate to that.
And we have to say, because of the cold climatic conditions, we know that cold temperatures preserve things.
So presumably if somebody comes acropper, has a mischief, something goes wrong with their bid, and they end up sadly dying on the mountain, they will be preserved as in aspect.
I mean, his down suit, his goggles, gloved hands, there's slight fading of his down suit, for instance.
So you know that it's been there for a few years.
I think he's been there since 2019.
So what's that, three years?
But there are some from far, far before that, aren't there?
And things that are preserved.
And not just on Everest, on many other mountains.
And the K2, which is the second highest mountain in the world, when people die on that, they generally end up falling and they have this gruesome tendency to pop out, quite literally, on the glacier, much, much lower down a number of years later.
So they would fall down, get entombed on the glacier.
And at some stage, their remains are found a number of years later.
So the mountain gives up its dead?
Yeah, to an extent.
You could look at it that way.
And then, like you say, climatic changes some years, there's lots of snow, some years that there is not so much snow.
And depending how much precipitation there's been during the monsoon, it may cover bodies or the wind might scour the snow away and some bodies become revealed from their resting place.
And we have to say that ordinary people thinking about this would say, well, surely they have expeditions from time to time to remove the bodies.
I've read about some.
I know they do.
But in the most part, it isn't possible, is it, to take them away?
It would be very, I mean, you can't get a helicopter up to that sort of altitude.
It would be very difficult to remove.
Certainly on the south side of Everest, anybody really above the balcony, to remove a body from above there would be extremely difficult.
And of course, you put in a whole team because you probably need a dozen people, something like that.
And you're putting that team into danger because they're climbing up into what we know as the death zone.
Anything above 7,500 meters is an area of the atmosphere where we are just not supposed to live.
And I've had this rather open, gruesome conversation with my family about it.
What happens to my body?
And is it my choice or is it the family's choice?
And it's a very difficult one and it's very sensitive for obvious reasons.
Some bodies do get removed, but they're generally lower on the mountain.
Some get blown off.
Some just disappear because we only climb every in a very small weather window each year.
It's normally only a handful of days that people can actually get to the summit.
So the bodies that are just beneath the summit and the bodies that you would encounter on summit day, where most of the bodies generally are, would only be seen for four, five, six days of the year.
And the rest of the time, who knows what's happening up there, whether or not.
We also understand why they cannot be removed.
But as you said, utterly unnerving for people who experience that.
In the pantheon of stories about Everest, there is the corpse of a climber they call Green Boots.
And I think there are some myths and legends and stories about Green Boots.
Have you heard those?
Yeah, so Green Boots is in a small cave on the north side of Everest.
Now, I've not climbed on the north side.
That's climbing up from Chinese side, but he is a climber of some renown these days, unfortunately.
Died in, I believe, 96.
There's a big storm in 96 that killed a lot of people on the south side of Everest.
And my understanding is Green Boots is, was, an Indian climber.
I'm not 100% sure.
I think his exact identity is not 100% sure.
Although a guy I used to work with, I remember once people refer to old Green Boots and he said, oh, people forget, you know, he was a climber on the Indian team that year and I knew him and things like that.
And the green boots refers to the color of his climbing boots and he's tucked into a cave and he's rather insensitively used as a landmark.
And when people radio down their position, whether you're above or beneath old green boots, it's used as a reference to where the climber is on the mountain.
And he is like so many others.
He's become quite a waymark.
Preserved there.
And, you know, I can understand why people would use, because where are they?
I mean, you're not going to have road signs up there.
Yeah, it's often dark when you pass that climber on the way up.
And then I think it was, I don't know, 2013, 12, 13 around there, a British climber got into difficulties in the same place and ended up passing away in that same cave.
A climber known as David Sharp, his name was.
he got involved in difficulties.
And then his possessions were brought back to the UK by...
I think the odds are higher for K2 as I was reading them today, but there are odds there.
very quickly sadly we've only got two minutes i've got a question from sean and i want to I didn't know all the detail of this, but very famous climber, George Mallory.
George Mallory.
Exactly.
Tried to get to the top.
We don't know whether he made it or not.
His body, I don't think, was found until 1999.
So, you know, that's how many 70 odd years he was completely vanished.
And nobody is quite sure, is that right?
Whether he made the top or not.
It's the biggest mystery of Everest, arguably the biggest mystery of mountaineering.
Andrew Irving, George Mallory, last seen by Adele going strongly for the top.
And then the clouds rolled in and they were never seen alive again.
And the myth is there's a box camera.
Mallory had a very early Kodak box camera.
And everybody's trying to find Irving's body because the box camera was not found.
And The camera might contain some evidence.
Exactly.
Now, you're going to love this, and there might just be time to tell you this.
There is a conspiracy theory, and I know you're going to love it, but that the Chinese found the body in the mid-60s, Irving's body, and apparently they botched the development.
It's a literal story.
It only just came to light through a journalist climate called Marx and Knott.
What a story.
You've left the best to us.
Kenton Kuhl, thank you so much.
I could spend three hours or more talking to you.
Give my love to Slough and thank you for helping me tonight.
My pleasure.
Had a slightly shorter conversation, but what a truly interesting and brave man.
Kenton Kuhl, accomplished mountaineer from Berkshire.
And I could have spoken with him all night.
What a guy.
More great guests in the pipeline here at the Home of the Unexplained as I try to get things back to normal now.
And thank you very much for all of your responses to the recent hearing issue.
Onwards and upwards, like they say, through the summer, into the autumn, and towards the back end of 2022.
Another year that's gone in the snap of a finger.
So, until next we meet.
My name is Howard Hughes.
This has been The Unexplained Online.
And please, whatever you do, stay safe, stay calm, and above all, please stay in touch.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
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