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Feb. 14, 2022 - The Unexplained - Howard Hughes
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Edition 610 - Medium And "intuitive" Isabeau Maxwell On Mediumship - And Using "intuition" Effectively

Medium and 'intuitive' Isabeau Maxwell - recently seen on America's Gaia tv - on her mediumship - which developed late - also communicating with the departed and using your intuitive sense...

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Across the UK, across continental North America, and around the world on the internet, by webcast and by podcast.
My name is Howard Hughes, and this is The Unexplained.
Well, as I'm recording these words, February is playing tricks on us.
It started icy this morning, and it's now kind of gone past lunchtime as I'm speaking these words, and there is a beautiful shaft of warm sunlight, I think probably amplified by my window, just to my left here as I record these words, that is warming me up quite nicely.
Hope everything's good with you.
Thank you very much for all of your emails, suggestions, communications, and everything that you say.
And in particular, your views about doing this show on video.
I believe, as you seem to believe because I've had an overwhelming amount of emails saying all the same thing, that with a show like this, the pictures are better in your head.
And I find that if I look at some video podcasts that do this kind of thing, I honestly believe that the pictures are detracting from what you're actually hearing.
If you close your eyes, it's better.
It's a better experience.
And not everything has to be in glorious technicolor and stereophonic sound.
So I think my gut tells me that video is not the way to go.
You know, maybe at some point and maybe for special occasions and special events, but not as a day-to-day thing because, as you are telling me, video detracts from the program.
So that's where I'm at at the moment.
And thank you for all of your suggestions and thoughts and all of the nice things you've said recently.
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Thank you, Adam, for all of your hard work.
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Follow the link there and you'll see ways to contact me or the way to contact me.
And I do get to see each and every email that comes in.
And despite the pressure of guest booking and coming up with all the ideas and stuff for the radio show and this show, I am constantly across the emails.
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and I'm checking the emails.
But that's just me.
Guest on this edition, Mediumship and Intuition with Isabeau Maxwell.
Now, I know that some of you don't like hearing mediums and that kind of thing on this show, but we have to be a broad pitch, I think.
And I think every so often, and I used to do more of it, we have to do a topic like this.
And I think you might find what Isabeau has to say very interesting, in particular about intuition and the way that our intuitive sense works.
Her story is an interesting one, too, in that she came to all of this comparatively late.
So it's Isabeau Maxwell on this edition of The Unexplained.
If a medium is not somebody you want to hear on this show, then maybe skip this edition, but I think you will find it an interesting conversation, and it is something different from the usual run of material I think you might find.
Okay, that's enough of that.
Don't forget, if you get in touch with me, tell me who you are, where you are, and how you use this show.
It's always nice to hear from you.
Let's get to the guest now in the United States, Isabel Maxwell.
Isabel, thank you very much for coming on my show.
Thank you, Howard, for having me.
Now, I think you're in Florida at the moment, near Orlando.
Is that right?
Yes, I am right outside of Orlando right now.
We are in this fantastic experiment of full-time traveling for the last year.
And right now we're in Florida trying to stay warm.
Okay, full-time traveling.
Why?
Honestly, I think it came out of boredom.
It really came out of boredom.
And then it came out of a curiosity for me to go to different areas, to different places in the United States, at least to start, and to check out the energy and check out the vibe and see how my intuition would be affected by it and what that would be like to be consistently on the move because I'm very stationary.
I have always been very stationary, kind of introverted.
And I wanted to see what would happen to my intuition as well as get some adventure under our belt.
How's it been?
Fantastic.
In the last year, new energies have opened up.
I don't even know if they've opened up as much as I've just become more open to them.
And life has gotten, it's leveled up as far as magical goes.
It's been just fantastic.
Okay.
Well, keep me posted about that.
I find some of the most, I used to do, there's no reason why you should know this, but I used to work on a big radio show in London, a morning drive show.
It was the biggest one available in London.
It was like kind of Ryan Seacrest or, you know, something like that.
It was a big, big show here.
And we used to have the privilege of at great expense doing our show from everywhere in the world.
We went to Maui, we did it from South Africa, we were in Hong Kong, we were in, you know, several parts of Australia.
You name a place, we went there.
And I found one of the most fascinating places that I've been, and we were only there for a day because we were transiting to another place, was Puerto Rico.
I remember going into, I don't know why I'm telling you this, but there was a woman living there.
I think she was an author on the quiet, but her home was like outside came inside.
So she had like a courtyard inside, but it had trees and things in it.
And there was a parrot there, I remember.
I think there might have been a couple of parrots, but she was an incredibly intuitive person.
And the only reason I'm saying that is if you haven't been to Puerto Rico, I think you might find it interesting.
I think I might want to go.
I think I might want to go.
Only a thought.
The variety, just the variety of things that you see, things that you experience, the people that you meet, the places that you go, even just the visuals.
I mean, it really, it's stimulating.
It's wonderful.
Well, report back if you do go there.
Now, look, I often get offered guests for my show, and sometimes I get offered people I've never heard of, and sometimes I think, well, I'm not sure whether my listener's going to like this.
So I will, as we say here in the UK, swerve those guests on many occasions because I can anticipate the reaction.
And I've got to tell you, I was not sure about this one because you must forgive me, I hadn't heard of you and I had to read about you and I watched a couple of videos and then I thought, yeah, we have to do this because here is somebody, unlike so many people that I've spoken with on The Unexplained, you are not somebody who's going to tell me, I always knew I had these abilities from the age of three.
That's not your story, and that's rather refreshing.
So I think we need to unpick your story, and I think I need to shut up and let you tell it.
How did you get to doing the stuff that you do, which is like the mediumship, the intuitiveness, if there's such a word, which I don't think there are, there is, but doesn't matter.
How did you get there?
Howard, you are a love.
This is so wonderful.
I'm glad that our paths crossed as well.
And yes, I'm absolutely one of those people that I can't say from birth because I was serious skeptic.
Now, I wasn't, you know, actively charging forward in my skepticism.
I wasn't driven by it, but I was scientific.
I was logical.
There was no spirituality or religion in my home.
I mean, you know, we did the basics just to sort of cross T's and dot I's, but it wasn't part of my home culture.
I was a mathematician.
I got a math degree at university.
And for me, everything was very black and white.
One plus one is two.
Ghosts aren't real.
Psychics aren't real.
Mediums aren't real.
It's all a scam.
That was my complete thought process on it.
Then I was 31 years old.
I will never forget it.
I was in the United States here.
I was in New Hampshire.
My grandmother was in Minnesota, so a few thousand miles apart.
And she passed away.
I was fortunate enough to not speak with her, but hear her, you know, last few breaths on the phone, thanks to my aunt, long distance.
But then she passed and I hung up the phone, went out in the living room.
And I remember thinking to myself, I jumped right into logic.
Do I, you know, take the time to mourn here for a moment?
Do I book a flight?
What do I do?
And I was standing there trying to make that decision.
And she showed up in spirit form in my living room.
Now, for me, it wasn't really kind of a rosy story because for me, it was really scary, to be honest with you.
I was frightened right out of the get-go.
She was about, people asked me this all the time, you know, how solid was she?
Like, how much did you see?
Or was it out of the corner of your eye?
It was straight in front of me, not in the corner of my eye.
She was about 70% solid.
For some reason, she was turned sideways.
And she turned and looked at me, winked and smiled and then disappeared.
And what was your state of mind then?
Were you distraught?
Were you hysterical?
Were you so much into grief that, you know, what I'm saying is that we know that things happen to people when they are in extreme mental states.
So I'm just trying to get an idea.
I mean, that's an amazing thing that you're talking about here and very beautiful, if I may say so.
But your mental state may have influenced what you experienced, do you think?
100%.
100%.
I do think it influenced it.
It was startling.
Startling is like the soft way to say it.
I grew up on pretty great horror movies.
Do you know what I mean?
So if this isn't real and this is happening in front of me, my brain went into fight or flight and went right into I'm in a horror movie.
Like it was a terrifying thing.
I thought my only reference to ghost or to spirit was nothing beautiful.
It was all scary or spooky.
And I mean, I could throw a good Halloween party, Howard.
I've done that for my entire life.
And so for me, all of that was in the category of fearful.
So I was scared and I stumbled backwards.
I remember hitting the wall.
Like, I remember feeling bruised the next morning on my back because I hit it so hard.
If I could have run, I would have just out of my reaction because I was so not into that realm.
And I remember saying something along the lines of don't ever do that to me again.
And then thinking, why would I say that?
It's not real.
And then thinking, this is grief.
Okay, I'm going to focus on booking a flight.
And that was it.
That was all that happened.
So I instantly wrote it off as this is grief.
This is mental grief.
And I just created an image of her that I know.
The next morning, my husband, I didn't say a word about it.
And the next morning, my husband woke up and said, I had an odd dream.
He's not a, he didn't dream very much.
And he said, in a very odd dream, very realistic.
Your grandmother showed up in this blue button-down shirt.
And that kind of punched me a little bit in the gut because that's what she was wearing when she showed up in the living room.
And you're absolutely 100% certain.
I'm going to say this for a reason.
You were certain that what you saw was in a waking state and appeared to be real.
Now, the reason I'm saying this is that I have a distant memory, but boy, does it stay with me.
My grandmother's sister, Amy, was like another grandmother to me, really.
She was such a kind woman and very understated, but she would, right up until I was in my 20s, she would bake birthday cakes for me and go and get anything that I needed to get.
She used to take me day trips to North Wales.
I was born in Liverpool.
North Wales was quite near.
Every summer, she was a truly wonderful person.
And I can remember I was probably nine, eight or nine.
And she used to, I'd go to bed on a Saturday and my grandmother and Auntie Amy would come and, you know, stay with us for half a day and go home in the evening on the Saturday.
It was always a nice treat To see them.
She sat in the bedside seat next to my bed, and I woke up hours later when they had gone, it was the middle of the night, and she was sitting in the seat and disappeared in front of me.
And I'm convinced that that happened, but there is always a possibility that I was a little kid and maybe I was still asleep, and I just thought that.
So that's a very, very long-winded way of saying, are you sure you were conscious?
It's a great question.
And that's a great example because I know a lot of people listening to your example relate.
I can see you, I can just imagine people going, yes, I've had something close to that happen as well.
For me, this was in the middle of the day.
My husband and children were home at the time that I was on the phone with my grandmother before she passed.
Shortly after she passed, it was actually my husband that said, can I get you some wine and chocolate?
And I said, that would be wonderful.
And he right.
Good man.
This was a good, this was a good move.
And he took both of the kids, who were very young at the time to the grocery store.
The door closed.
They had been gone maybe 30 seconds and I was standing in the living room.
So for me, it was, it was, it wasn't a dreaming or sleeping or napping situation.
It really just came hard and fast right in the middle of the day for me.
So, no, it's a good question, though.
It's very, that it makes a lot of sense because we can have a lot of moments in our waking states and our sleeping states where we can connect.
And I do believe we connect, but those moments can cause even more doubt.
The apparition that you saw, if we want to call it that, winked at you, but do you think that the apparition was aware of you?
Oh, yes.
She looked right at me.
And I was very close to her.
And it was that look.
It was that look from grandmother to grandchild.
And we were very close.
And so when I could kind of relax and look back on it a couple of days later, I started to look at it more fondly instead of something that was frightening.
And when I did that, I replayed it in my head a few times.
And I remember thinking, oh, she was being cheeky.
She knew what she was doing.
She knew she was going to scare me.
And wow, you know, and she was just fun like that.
That's who she is.
She's just fun and playful.
She's very playful.
So it fit.
And she looked right at me.
Yep.
Okay.
And did you have siblings?
Do you have siblings?
I do not have siblings.
I am the only child, but I do have a cousin that might as well be my sister.
And did your grandmother appear to your cousin?
Yes, sort of.
And I guess I would have to go back and ask her this again because it's been so many years now.
But I didn't talk to any about this, anyone about this.
And when I got to the actual funeral, I flew to Minnesota.
When I got to the funeral was the first time that I had really spoken to my cousin, mostly because she was the one in charge of running everything and I wasn't about to take her time up.
And I knew I would see her at the funeral.
So I got to the funeral and I said to her, I feel crazy because this thing happened in my living room.
And she chuckled and she said, oh, well, of course it did.
She showed up.
I think she said that she either saw her or sensed her in a garden area that she was in as well.
She's like, I think she visited everyone, hun.
And she said it like it was just matter of fact.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it was like, oh, look.
I'm like, you exactly.
I said, you're saying this like you went and got a cup of coffee.
What the heck?
Like, this is not okay.
You know, this is not real.
And she's like, yes, it is real.
And, you know, and she said something along the lines of, you know, it's about time you start opening up to it.
Now, come to find out that my family was very open to it, except for my mom.
And we had lived a little distance from my family.
And my mom was also very good at making sure the family knew that this was not something that Bo needed to concern herself with, we'll say.
So I was very isolated.
And after that conversation, I started talking to my cousin more.
And I said, tell me more about this.
Well, her mom had experiences growing up.
My grandmother had experiences.
I guess there was even a painting of my great grandmother in my grandmother's house that the whole family but me knew that when they pulled the painting out, they would start to have connections, radios would go on or people would see things out of the corner of their eyes.
So this was something that was very real in my family.
I was just so shielded that it was not part of my reality.
So did you ask the question and presumably you did, but did you ask the question and when did you ask the question about whether we just go into oblivion when we finish here or whether there is something more than this?
And the fact that your grandmother appeared to you would certainly suggest the latter, not the former.
It took me a little while to get to that point because my comfort level, and I'll say that very specifically, my comfort level settled into I need to prove that this is not grief.
And my family's kind of wacky.
So, you know, they're kind of fun and quirky anyway.
And I just can't get on board with this.
So I set out to prove that it was proof and or prove that it was grief.
But I found myself emotionally battling myself with the desire and the want for it to be real because I didn't want to lose her.
And I was, I was struggling.
And I worked with somebody.
I knew someone that did Tai Chi.
And I went up to him one day.
I barely knew him.
I knew he was an instructor in the area.
And I literally said to him, you're the strangest person I know.
Can you help me?
And this was true because in my circles, I, I mean, doctors, lawyers, teachers, you know, it's like no one that was in spiritual.
He was the kindest, most sweetest man.
He helped me with my intuition, start to use yes and no, which is a great way to start using your intuition because those are so black and white.
And use a pendulum where you ask a question and the pendulum swings yes or no.
So I was doing this for a while.
I started to feel what people call, you know, like the goosebumps or the shivers that would roll through when I suspected she was getting my attention.
So I would get goosebumps randomly and I would say, okay, maybe that's her.
So I'm going to use the pendulum.
I did that for a while, but nothing really concrete enough to make me believe it wasn't myself doing it came through.
So I recall one day sitting in the car getting ready to run errands and I said to her out loud, I love you so much, but I am raising two kids and I can't do this.
So if you are real and you are really listening to me, I need you to know that I'm going to have to throw the towel in on this.
Because she didn't, she never appeared again that solid for me.
It wasn't like she just kept showing up, which would have been easy.
And I drove off and did, I committed to myself that I'm going to give myself one or two more days of this quote game that I was playing.
And then after that, I was going to go seek some help for my grief.
And later that afternoon, I felt the shivers run through me.
I pulled over, did pendulum work for like 20 minutes, Howard, just to get a few questions because yes and no takes a while to, you know, narrow things down.
But I did.
And I narrowed it down to a message from her through yes and no answers that my mom was going to be, I was going to need assistance.
It was going to be financial in nature, but that I wasn't going to be the one to help her.
Someone else would.
So fast forward a couple of hours, my mom called me.
And this is my grandmother's daughter.
And my mom called me and said, hey, I've got a banking issue.
I need some money moved from one bank to another.
Now, this was years ago when we couldn't just do it on a smartphone.
So I said, yeah, no problem.
And I drove to my bank to get cash to drive it over to the second bank to put the cash in.
Now, as I'm driving to do this, I'm thinking, see, I'm still making it up because my mom's in the financial world.
This is not out of the realm of something that isn't normal that would happen with banking issues.
So I get the cash.
I'm driving it to the second bank.
I get to the second bank.
I pull in the parking lot, turn my car off, and my mom calls again and she says, hey, hey, I just want to let you know not to worry about it.
My friend Lisa took care of it for me.
And that's when I hung up the phone because I had always been the one that took care of those types of things for my mom.
She had never relied on an outside friend to help her, especially after she set me off on the task.
So that just hit home.
And I never looked back after that.
That was the moment of proof where I went, okay, touche game on, grandma.
All right, let's see where this goes.
And from there, I started to want to know more about what's going on on the other side.
Okay.
I mean, I have to say, but then maybe I'm more of an earthbound creature than you.
I'd have been asking your grandmother who's going to win the Super Bowl.
Oh, are you kidding?
Absolutely.
So she wouldn't respond.
I couldn't see her because my visuals weren't strong in the beginning.
Like I said, I had that one instance and then everything else was kind of by feel until I started to hone my intuition.
And then I developed sight and being able to hear.
But at first, it was all by feel and I was stumbling through yes and no.
And she just wouldn't straight up would not answer those questions.
Fast forward a few months, I met my first spirit guide.
And now I'm stepping into these realms of, okay, now I'm in weird world.
This was way out of my comfort zone, but I kept pushing forward and I kept going to meet with this guide.
I would go a couple times a week and sit in this one location and I could feel him and see him.
And I didn't even at the time know.
I started to understand from people that I was talking to that this might be a guide.
So then I started to hear him and I could hear him say like, you know, come back next Monday or, and we started to have, I could start to have, I had audio.
And so then I was sitting at home and Howard, I was like, pull out a piece of paper and a pen.
Okay, how much longer am I going to live here?
Are we going to buy a new house?
What are my kids going to do next year?
Like I wanted to know all of it.
And you say you were hearing a voice.
Is that right?
I was.
I was hearing his voice.
I could hear his voice.
And it was the first time I could ever.
Sorry to jump in.
And I had an email from a listener saying, I wish you'd stop saying sorry to jump in.
But you know something, if I jump in and I try and do it as rarely as possible, if I jump in and don't say that, I'll get other emails saying, why did you jump in like that?
And you didn't even say sorry.
I swear.
So you have a guide.
How do you know this was a guide?
And if you knew that this was a guide, then what was it?
A disembodied soul, an angel?
What was it?
This was, I came to find out that this was one of the people in what I like to explain as my soul group, somebody on the other side that had spent other lifetimes with me, but didn't decide to come down in this one with me.
Instead decided to watch over me and was waiting for me to get to this point so he could support me.
And I lovingly called him Big Dog because he came through so strong.
And I know it's a quirky name, but I remember sitting there one day going, well, you're quite the big dog, aren't you?
Because I could just feel, I could kind of, I, the way he looked to me at first, when I was first stepping into this next kind of level, I guess you could say, he looked like heat coming off the road.
So when you see heat on the road and it's kind of transparent, it looked like that, except in the shape of a human.
And it was relatively large shaped.
And so I remember saying, oh, you're quite the big dog.
And then I started hearing him say a few words at a time.
And ironically, they were, I'll see you next Friday.
And I was like, oh, okay.
He wants me to come back next Friday.
So I would leave and then I'd come back Next Friday.
And then I'd sit there and be like, Hey, hey, you're not saying anything.
Can you say something?
I'll see you next Monday.
And he did this a few times.
And I remember, I'm kind of stubborn.
We did touch on the only child piece, right?
So I'm kind of stubborn.
And I said, Well, if I can hear you, why do I have to keep coming back?
Like, that doesn't make logical sense.
Can't we just have a conversation?
Because I could hear his voice in my head.
And I couldn't even hear my grandmother's voice at this time, which by the way is a familiar voice.
You would think that that would be one that even my brain would have generated, but I still couldn't do that in the beginning.
And he said, I need to know you're committed to this process.
And so I kind of had to, with my heart, make a commitment to say, okay, all right, I'm in.
Let's see where this goes.
Because he knew I was very much on the fence.
Did you ask him, which process exactly is this?
Clearly, you had an idea of what you were embarked on by then, but it doesn't sound like it was that clear an idea.
So did you ask him, what's this all about?
Why me?
I did.
I did.
Well, first, because all I knew of was really kind of the television shows and the kitschy stuff about psychics and information.
I didn't really know much of anything.
So at first, I got excited and ran back one day saying, I can hear him.
So I'm going to ask all these questions.
And I did.
I had all these questions about the future.
What are my kids going to do?
You know, what's going to happen here?
It was almost like I got excited to think that I had this inside scoop that I could get access to these questions.
And I remember going to ask him those questions and his response when I asked the question.
He didn't answer the first one or the second one, but then I asked the third one.
He said, you know, that's a stupid question.
And I was like, well, wait a minute.
Aren't you supposed to be like spiritual and kind and says who?
I think it's great.
Says him.
He wanted me to ask questions that were more based in the process or what's important to what was happening to me in the moment, not future crystal ball type stuff.
It was, well, and that's not fair because crystal ball is a great scrying tool, but he wanted me to ask questions that were going to help me get further and open up my intuition.
And I didn't understand that.
I didn't sit down with him in the beginning saying, hey, I want to open my intuition.
I sat down curious as all curious could be and just wanted the answers to everything.
And I didn't know what I really needed the answers to.
But they could have picked Barack Obama, David Letterman.
They could have picked anyone.
You must have asked, you know, of all the people in all the world, why me?
I did.
I did.
And he said, because you have high standards and a very, very large heart.
And at first, for a while, I didn't understand that.
Now I do.
Now that I've been in this long enough, I understand I have high standards and I've always kept them high as far as, you know, I'm not going to believe, oh, look, a bird.
It must be a sign.
No, sometimes it's just a bird.
So those high standards will always sort of be there.
And the big heart is true as well.
You know, I've got a massive capacity to love.
So I'm finding this out, not necessarily just for me, but for anyone that I can help as well.
And so then that makes that makes sense to me.
Plus, I'm very analytical, but yet I'm open.
I like the sound of all of that, I have to say.
Where was he?
Where is he?
Well, he's everywhere in essence, as we know guides and angels and spirits to be.
I mean, they're not limited by time or space, right?
So he's everywhere.
But at the time, I was so new that he actually was on the edge of some woods near a friend of mine's house.
I was leaving my friend's house and caught him out of the corner of my eye.
I saw that sort of heat wave in the woods and my curiosity went, what's going, what is that in the woods?
And, you know, it was still transparent.
I could see through it, but where he was standing, everything was blurry and it sparked my curiosity.
It's exactly what he did.
I laugh now because it was kind of like fishing.
He threw the worm out and I grabbed it.
And I was like, oh, well, this is interesting.
And so I came back to my friend's house and saw it a second time.
And I said to my friend, I think I see something in your woods.
Can I go sit there and meditate?
And he knew what was happening with me.
He understood what I was dealing with.
And he said, yeah, absolutely.
Come out here anytime you want.
And so I would.
He lived on a large piece of land.
So I went out there and I would sit for hours.
I had a journal.
I wrote down every single thing that Big Dog said and instructed me on.
And over the course of the months, I learned about linear time.
I learned about the in-between.
I learned about the transition.
What happens when we come down here?
What happens when we leave?
What happens when a spirit hesitates and they're crossing over?
You know, how communication goes through the five senses, the nervous system.
He taught me so much because I was so hungry for it.
But I needed at first, I think, to really not prove to him that I was on board, but I needed to be on board.
I needed to be committed.
And he helped me get committed to the process.
And once I was, I sat down.
And then three or four months later, I'm so analytical and so one plus one is two that in my brain, if I want an answer, I have to get in my car, go there and sit with him because I didn't know anything else.
And I wasn't really meeting other mediums or psychics.
So I didn't have anyone to compare anything with.
I was just, I was also a tad bit shy about telling people what was happening to me as well, because I had a whole lot of worry about what people would think of me back then.
I mean, I was going to ask you, and this is a good place to do it.
Was your husband okay about this?
He, his response, you know, we've since gone separate ways years, years later.
So we were married for probably the first 15 years of this experience.
At first, he was uncomfortable to the point where he said, I just, I'm not scared, but I'm very uncomfortable with this topic.
Can we just not talk about it?
And so it was one of those things where we just didn't talk about it.
And then gradually with the kids, you know, they would ask questions, or I would say, oh, this is going to happen.
And it would happen.
And I would have to explain why it happened.
This is fast forwarding to when my intuition was very open.
And then eventually, over the course of, I would say, three or four years after my grandmother showed up in my marriage, my husband had just enough experiences that there was no denying it anymore.
And it just became a normal part of the household.
You know, even after separating, you know, he's reached out to me once or twice to say, hey, I have a friend that needs some help.
Is there any chance you can read for him?
So it became a norm because it just showed up.
Right.
So we're not talking about a situation where it all got a bit too freaky for him.
He came to accept what it was.
Yeah, he did.
He came to accept what it was.
He was very clear with where his comfort level was with discussing it, which is totally fair.
And, but it wasn't poo-pooed in any way, shape or form.
It wasn't your crazy.
There was none of that came my way.
It was, okay, this is happening.
I support this.
And then like when I opened my first office to become, when I decided to become a professional reader, you know, he came in and painted the office and put carpet in.
So it was, he just, yeah, he just wasn't very comfortable with the actual conversation of it because it made him spooked.
Well, you know, that's going to go for an awful lot of people.
You know, not everybody can take this on board, I would think.
You know, I've spoken to an awful lot of people and I'm very much this way inclined anyway.
So nothing surprises me, but not everybody's like that.
And I guess you've come across that quite a lot in your time.
Yes.
Yes, I have.
Well, to back up with my guide real quick, but then I have come across it very often.
But I was going to that particular area in the woods for months.
And I drove, I went to drive home once and I was halfway down their very long driveway and my headlights, the sun was going down.
And so I turned my headlights on and he showed up in front of me on the driveway.
And I went, wait a minute, you can leave the woods.
Like I, cause I didn't know what I was doing.
And I said, you can leave the woods.
And he popped into next to my car.
He was like, yeah.
I don't remember if he stood next to it or he popped into the, it doesn't matter.
He just said, yeah, yeah.
So you can call on me when you want.
And I, I didn't continue to go back to the woods.
I started to communicate with him at that point, wherever I was at.
But he taught me everything through experiences.
And then moving forward, getting the courage to tell people because this was back 2005, 2006, 2007, and this wasn't such a common pop culture concept.
You know, the shows Ghost Whisper and Medium and things like that, the television shows were just starting to come out.
So I would tell people, and many times I had to explain what a medium was.
And when I would tell someone what I did, when they said, okay, what do you do?
And what is this about?
They would say, a lot of times they would say, well, I don't believe in any of it.
I'm a complete skeptic.
And I would say, I totally understand.
I used to be one myself.
And they would always follow it up.
99% of the time, they would always follow it up with, yep.
But there was this one time.
That's what I find time and time again.
People say, right?
You do a radio show about all that stuff.
I really, I just, how can you do that?
You know, it's all so flaky.
Mind you, there was this one time when I was so-and-so, and you find that everybody's got a story.
So I am in no way know-how dismissive of any of this, okay?
Oh, yeah.
All right.
So there you are in this situation.
You have a guide.
You find out your guide can be omnipresent and is there to literally guide you, to teach you the way of the world, the cosmos, how everything works.
What is it that you know?
You know, what's the, here's, you know, the biggest question of all for all of us.
And my God, in the last couple of years, I've asked it so many times is what the hell is the point of all this?
Do you know the answer to that now?
Have you been given that answer?
I know two different answers.
I know the one or two, two answers in two different levels.
I know the answer for myself for the point of why I went through this.
And I also know the answer overall of why we come here to have a life on earth.
So from my understanding and the teachings that I got from Big Dog and everything that I learned moving forward, the thing that struck me the most, I'll start with the global prospect or global part of this.
The thing that struck me the most was when he said, we're not here to learn.
And that's a very pop culture thing that a lot of people think is that we're here to learn.
And he said, we're not here to learn.
And my curiosity just went, yes, please tell me more because this is interesting.
He said, if we were here to learn, then that would mean that our higher self knew, didn't know anything.
And it's the higher self, there is no time and space.
Once you disconnect from this existence here on earth, on the other side, they're not limited by time and space.
It's not possible.
So if they're not limited by time and space, that means that those on the other side, your higher self on the other side, knows everything that has happened to you and everything that will happen to you in an instant.
They're not stuck in the same linear timeline you are.
So as you walk through the timeline and you learn something, your higher self already knew that.
So it's not, that's not the purpose of being here.
The purpose of being here is to take emotions in their most raw form, like love and compassion and just raw emotion.
We'll stick with the words raw emotion and put them onto a linear timeline.
When you do that, that's where a non-linear timeline being like your higher self gets to experience hesitation or expectation or regret, Things that you can only experience on linear time.
So, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I'm sorry, here I am jumping in.
But so, we are here to experience vicariously on behalf of our higher selves and beings above us in the church.
We are here to experience for them because they can't experience those things for themselves.
Correct.
You are you.
So, and this is how I explain it to my students.
If your higher self is a ball of light on the other side, it's not that all of you comes down here on this random Thursday.
It's that a piece of that light, and this is just symbolic.
There really is no form.
So there's no solid, you know, this is exactly it.
But symbolically, your higher self is like a ball of light.
It takes a chunk of that light out, throws it into a human body on earth, has it run around and have these experiences.
That ball of light instantaneously comes back because remember, they're not on linear time.
And now that comes back in and the higher self gets to feel and experience what it feels like to be surprised or to be let down or to be worried about something coming up.
So it's a desire for experiences.
Think of a bowl of candy and each candy is a linear time experience.
That's kind of what it is.
So they're playing a game with us.
You're playing a game with yourself.
All right.
I wonder what the point of anybody.
Okay.
All right.
And we know that love is an important thing.
I believe that love is the basis of all things or the absence thereof.
Let's just look at my life, for example.
I've experienced some wonderful things in my life.
I've been very privileged to have a lot of experiences that people have not had.
I got to meet David Bowie and Paul McCartney and Lionel Ritchie and know what it was like to go on a stage in front of 100,000 people in Hyde Park and have them cheering, which was the most bizarre experience.
I've known the most wonderful things and I've had the chance to talk to a lot of people.
But the price for that was an awful lot of garbage.
I've met some vile, awful, appalling people and had some terrible, awful experiences.
Why would I have volunteered to come here as me and experience the bad experiences?
Why would I want to do that?
If you think about it in terms of higher self versus a person here on earth, the only labeling of a negative experience is that from the human experiencing it.
It's totally fair question.
I look at, you know, parts of my childhood and things like this and think, why would I sign up for that?
That's not, you know, and there's two, there's two pieces to this.
Number one, it's not that your higher self is saying, I want some bad feelings.
It's your higher self saying, I want to know what that feels like.
And your higher self isn't, you know, sitting at a coffee shop, you know, in Italy somewhere wanting to just feel pain.
It's, it's a, it's a different being.
It's a different form.
It's not in human form.
And so your soul, you're, you're seriously, like you're conceived of love and you are love.
So you're just one big ball of love.
Think of it that way.
And if that higher self wants to experience it, it, it will, it'll, it'll do so.
And the other side of this, that second piece of this is you also have to have the comparison in order to have the depths of the emotions, to have that moment where you're about to walk out on stage, that excitement, that would be nothing without the comparison of good or bad, hard, easy, difficult, light, dark.
You wouldn't have that or be able to even experience it in that manner.
Please tell me there's a point to it all, though.
It's not just a continuing, repeating cycle of the same stuff.
We must be surely, if we're connected to our higher self up there, and we keep coming back down here to have these experiences in order for them to advance.
This is a forward progression.
Please tell me.
What if it wasn't a forward progression?
Oh, no.
I don't think I've got the strength for it.
Now, Howard, I'm not saying that I know the answer to that one.
I don't know the big plan of everything going.
I just, I understand in depth how the higher self functions and how we're connected to each other.
If there is a larger plan at play, they have it.
That's below or that's above my pay grade.
So if there's something bigger going on, I think that that's fantastic.
But if we think about in this lifetime, all right, I'm full-time traveling.
I'm not going to walk up to the Grand Canyon and look at it in this majestic beauty and say, what's the point?
I'm going to experience standing there in awe of this thing that is right here on this earth.
And I get to experience that.
I get to travel there.
That is exciting to me.
I'm not stuck.
I'm able to do that.
So the ability to be able to have experiences in this level, that is joy in itself.
What about free will?
Do we have, if it is also predetermined and we're put here to have experiences on behalf of our higher self, do I personally have any free will here or am I kidding myself when I think I do?
Both.
And I won't end it that way, but both.
That was a question because I wanted to know.
Like I wanted to know, you know, well, I can do anything then, right?
So a couple components here.
We need to consider that every being that is currently living on earth, every person is interacting with each other.
So if everyone decided that they wanted to, you know, marry Brad Pitt or someone, you know, then that's not going to happen.
It's not possibly Going to happen.
So, we are limited in what is possible in this human existence.
But when it comes to free will, we have some.
That's how I like to answer it.
We have some.
Before we come down here, we create what I like to call like a blueprint, and it's an outline.
You have major tasks.
Have you ever experienced deja vu?
Yes.
Okay, that's one of those major moments where it's almost like pinpointed into your timeline.
You will be at this coffee shop on this day and see these people.
So we have an outline blueprint.
That's fate.
That's okay.
You do have to be at these places.
And even if you try not to be, that's part of the process.
Now, the free will comes into coloring this blueprint.
You know, what think of the blueprint as the frame of your home.
You get to pick the wallpaper and the carpet and the couch and the people that come over and hang out with you and things like this.
But there are certain aspects to that home in order for it to be solid that have to be in place.
The framework has to be there.
And this is fate.
So there is fate and there's free will.
It's lined up that this will happen.
You will be in these certain moments.
And that's how I understand deja vu to be now is that's when you're in a moment that you saw before you ever came down here.
But all of the rest of it is free flowing.
They're not going to pick which movie you have to see.
You know, they're not going to pick which career you have to take in order to help children.
But like if your blue, yeah, if your blueprint is to help children, you have to do something.
So then they're not bothered with the fine print.
They're looking for the chapter titles, the chapter headings.
Exactly.
And you have some push.
You have some room to push.
For me, in the last year, for example, I've been my curiosity, I think, will never stop.
So for me, I've been pushing how much can I create a pattern of automatic manifesting?
Like I understand manifesting.
I understand affirmations, bringing things into your life, but how much can we automate this?
And that's when, you know, you start to play with it and you have experiences where here's a fun one for you.
We're full-time traveling and we are currently in a relatively larger RV.
We're moving the RV from one location to another.
And while we're moving it, I say to my partner, there's this new thing happening where a new trend where people are going to these bars and they're throwing axes at bullseyes.
So it's an axe throwing event.
I said, that sounds really fun and I want to try it.
And my partner's like, yeah, great.
Let's do that.
So that's it.
That's all that was said.
And then we went on to talk about different things.
Two days later at the next location, we were at a fairground.
It was empty.
And two days later, we wake up that morning and the local farmer's market had showed up.
They come in, they sell fruits and vegetables, and then they leave.
It happens once a week.
Well, one of the cars, the trailers that showed up for the farmer's market was a mobile axe throwing unit.
So you have to admit, though, that could have been completely random.
Oh, yeah, but that's pretty striking to say it.
And then two days later, it shows up 100 feet from your front door.
That's a little striking.
Well, you know, look, you don't have to convince me.
I believe that there are a few things in this world that are random.
We've just had a celebrity die in this country today.
The news was announced.
And the guy is quite well known on TV.
We had a show on TV here called University Challenge.
Okay, it was a sort of, it started in the 60s, and it's still running today.
And there was a man running this TV show called Bamba Gascoyne.
Wonderful name.
Wonderful man.
A real academic, terribly clever man.
I think he went to Cambridge University, maybe Oxford.
He was one of the best.
But he was also very good on TV in a sort of understated British way.
But the guy was a celebrity, very well known, and quite old now, of course.
And I started to think about him within the randomly.
There's no reason why I should have thought about this man within the last week.
I even mentioned him a week ago.
I spoke to my sister and his name came up.
Of all the people in all the world, Bambergascoyne's name came up for no reason at all.
He's not somebody that we would have talked about, certainly within the last 25 years.
And today, I get the news that he died.
Now, he lived five miles from where I live.
And I wonder whether, and this has happened to me, I can only talk about myself because that's what I know.
That experience of intuiting things, if that's the case, has happened to me a number of times across my life, a big number of times.
So that's interesting, isn't it?
So there you are with the axe throwing, and there's me with the sad death of this wonderful man who was on TV that I sort of knew about or on some level knew was coming.
And he was 87, I think.
So he lived a very full and good life.
And I can think of other examples from my life where I've sort of known these things.
So that fits in with the idea that what we think of as linear time actually is not really so.
It's a big circle and everything's already happened or is about to happen.
That's interesting.
So I guess is that where the intuition comes into it all?
I'm just thinking right off the top of my head now and out of the box.
If everything is there to be seen and experienced, if there's this great cosmos floating above us and all of the events that are going to happen have already happened, then presumably if you have intuition, that's the key to decoding that stuff.
I'm putting this really badly because I'm just doing it off the top of my head, but I think you might know where I'm going.
I think you're doing it pretty well, actually.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
It's I like to compare this existence like a playground.
You know, it's we come down here to explore and to play and to have experiences, both good and bad.
And for intuition to come up, it really shows up in two different ways.
When you work at honing your intuition, what you're doing is you're decluttering, you're removing the blinders.
Some people have referred to them as blinders.
When you get into a human form, that human body does a lot of magical things.
One of the magical things, it also, I mean, it breathes the heartbeats, but another magical thing that it does is it disconnects you from a direct source and access to your higher self.
This is purposeful because if you had complete direct, you probably would look at your higher self and say, why am I doing this?
Like if I already know everything and I know everything coming up, then why would I walk through it?
So there is sort of a blinder effect that gets put on, like a shroud kind of comes over us when we put on this human body to where we can't see everything coming up.
And that's part of the experience.
And intuition comes in two different forms.
The first form is knowing something's going to happen and having just a little more access to that timeline up ahead of you, which is what happened to you.
The other form would be really playing in that playground and saying, I want to bring this to me.
And then, you know, work with the universe and work with the space around you to bring it to you.
There was, there's, I don't know, maybe 50 bars across the country here that offer bullseyes.
Did not even know it was possible that somebody would rig up a mobile one that they brought from place to place.
I had never seen that before.
So that's an example of bringing something to you.
Whereas an intuitive moment, knowing, like seeing a little further ahead on the timeline is something that happened to you.
For example, two days ago, I was sitting here with my partner.
I was watching a murder mystery and I paused it and he was getting ready to head to bed.
And he said, well, why did you pause it?
And I said, well, it's just a little dark.
And I know you're getting ready to go to bed.
It's never great to watch something really kind of dark in topic before you go to sleep.
And he chuckled and he goes, no, no, no, you can play it.
And I went to play it in the very next line from the actor that was on the show was, yeah, it's really dark.
So it's things like that where you start to get more and more in sync.
And the more you uncover your intuition, the more you declutter it, the more you have access to more of your timeline.
You're more in sync with the things that are coming up.
You know who's going to call.
You joke about, hey, my name is Sally.
And then you step outside and some stranger walk by and say, hi, nice to meet you.
My name is Sally.
You know, it's you start to see the, some people call them glitches.
I wouldn't really put them in the category of glitches, but you start to see them and you start to experience them.
And then you go, whoa, I just brought his name up and then this happened.
So you think that people can be trained to have better intuition?
I think we all have incredible intuition.
I think that we cover it up.
I think it becomes cluttered.
I think, especially in particular cultures, if you look at different cultures around the world, different cultures are much more open to it.
And if you go to a culture that is very open to intuition and experiences of the sort, more people have more experiences because it's accepted and it's part of the cycle.
Here in America specifically, it's that's not real.
It's fraud and it's a constant battle here.
And so children cover it up.
It's not part of their process or growing up or, and you kind of learn to ignore it.
You put some blinders on and you go about your human existence.
And really what your mind focuses on is what your mind allows you to have access to.
So even if you give yourself the gift of six months of allowing your mind to have access to the possibilities of it, you'll start to see things happen to you that you think, wow, I can't even make that up.
And that's when you know that your sixth sense is open and working.
I once experimented with a thing called Silver Mind Control.
I don't know whether you've ever heard of that.
I mean, it's a sinister kind of name.
It really isn't.
It's just a way of programming for things to happen in the future.
And my sister did it.
She paid to go on the course.
And I think it still works this way.
If you go on the silver mind control course invented by a guy called Jose Silver in the U.S., as you go on the course, you can repeat it whenever you want.
Once you paid the initial fee, I think it works that way.
They're probably going to tell me it's different now, but you can go on it any old time.
I never went on it.
I just bought the book, and it worked for me better than it ever worked for my sister who'd taken the course.
And so I believe that such things exist.
I don't know how they exist, but I remember getting this book.
And I've had a number of, you know, anybody who works in broadcast media, you have your ups and downs, you have your periods of not working, kind of goes with the territory.
So there was a gig that I needed, a job that I needed at a place called Radio Yvern in Worcestershire.
I've told this story before, so if you've heard it before, my listener, I'm sorry, I'll tell it quickly.
And the boss of this radio station, a wonderful man in my life called Norman Bilton, he kept that radio station for Little Worcestershire and Herefordshire on the air.
When people said this is going to go bust, he fought for it and it stayed on and it was successful.
I was offered a gig there.
It was only kind of a tryout.
And I got there and I visualized, I saw the boss say to somebody who became a friend there called Sammy, who was like program director kind of thing, you know, chief disc jockey program director, whatever.
And I was doing news.
And I saw in my mind's eye for some reason Norman, the boss, going to Sammy and saying, Howard's really good, isn't he?
I'm glad we hired him.
The next day, and this is a true story, Sammy comes into me in the newsroom and says, I think it's going well, Howie.
Norman came up to me this morning and said, Howard's doing well, Isn't it?
I'm glad we hired him.
So it happened 24 hours later.
Yes.
I've never quite understood how it happened.
So, you know, I believe such things can happen.
But if everybody's using this, if everybody has intuition, everybody knows what's going to happen and can maybe influence it, then isn't that just going to result in chaos?
Because everybody's getting the things that they want ultimately, and everybody knows what's going to happen anyway.
I wish you were hanging out with me back in the early days because your questions line up with mine.
I just had so many, and then it led to another one and another one.
And that was one of my questions is if you're telling me, you know, okay, big dog, if you're telling me that I can alter, you know, the existence, like my existence and bring things in or shift this or do this, then doesn't that screw up everyone else's?
You know, and he said, no, and this is why.
We, every, every soul that is here currently, think of it as if you're like balls of light and they're all floating around this one timeline and everyone has to go down that timeline.
If you want something and you push over to the left, you're only going to be able to push over to the left of this crowded little group of lights if it's possible.
If all of the lights that you push through, the other souls, the other people you push through, it's for their highest good as well.
And it makes sense.
So we have to work in conjunction with the other people that are here, the other souls that are here.
It's why we can't make someone else do something or, you know, and that's a very popular one.
People are like, well, this person should do this.
Well, we can't.
That is part of the free will.
But what you can do is you can broaden your expectations, still pointing in the direction that you want.
I want to throw axes at this, at the bullseye.
I want to have the experience of doing that, but I'm not going to write in stone exactly how I want that to happen.
And you didn't write in stone, I want this person to walk in and tell me the exact sentence that I heard on Wednesday at noon.
When you put it into too hard of a form, too tight of a shape, it can't work because it's going to interfere with the highest good of the other cause.
I understand.
And there's also this thing about maybe if you want a thing too much, you ain't going to get it.
You have to be able to put it out there.
In my experience, you have to be able to put it out there and then just forget all about it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Because we still have those points that we are going to absolutely hit.
We still have that blueprint, that framework.
If you've come down here because your destiny is to help children, you're not going to make it as a, I don't know, a rock star because maybe you're not going to help enough kids that way.
So if you have these set goals for your lifetime and what you want in this moment is completely going to take you away from that, it's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
In your experience, what happens when we die?
What happens when we die?
We have the way that it was explained to me and what I understand now from Big Dog is we have three bodies.
We have the physical body, which we know what that is.
We've got the programming body, which is the human mind.
And then we have the spiritual body, which is your spirit.
That's that little ball of light that's going to go back up to the higher self.
When we die, the physical body disconnects from those other two bodies and we go through a transition process.
And who is going through the transmission process is your spirit that's returning to your higher self and your programming body, the human mind.
We go through a review process that is really quite remarkable.
I mean, it's stunning to me because I can't put one plus one to two is on it.
So one plus one equals two, I can't put on there.
But we go through a review process that every moment that we've experienced in this lifetime, we review it from multiple angles.
And we do this because the higher self does truly want the full experience.
And this is the way I explain it.
So let's say when you're a teenager, you walk up to someone and you just really mean moment, you punch someone in the face and you go through your life and you pass away and you're crossing over, you're going through your transition.
You need to review that moment.
And this is the transition review.
You review that moment again.
You relive it again.
You relive it in the shoes of the person you punched.
You also relive it in the shoes of all of the people that are affected by this, their employer, their mother, their brother.
And you get to feel the emotions.
This is for a well-rounded experience.
This is the same in a positive experience as well.
Let's say you had children and you get to go back and review that moment of childbirth, that beautiful moment where you lay your eyes on your child for the first time.
But then you also get to review that moment in your partner's eyes and the doctor's eyes and things like that.
And maybe the nurse who maybe that day you just totally changed her life and encouraged her just by the act of giving birth.
So we flesh out these experiences until they're completely well-rounded in our transition and we understand them from all perspectives.
And then we transition over to the other side and return to the higher self, bringing that back.
Where do ghosts and so-called earthbound spirits, if they exist, come into all that?
Those are the people that do not transition.
Those are the individuals who, and this is where, this is my reason and understanding for why I was called to step into this for me personally.
Spirits, ghosts are individuals.
I like to say spirits because ghost kind of gets it into the creepy factor.
And a lot of the spirits is just, you know, some of them are, it's just Aunt Marge, you know, but it's, it's when they don't transition.
It's when they don't cross over.
It's when they're in that in-between place.
They're in, they have their spiritual body and they have their programming body, meaning the human mind.
That programming body is Aunt Marge.
It's the lifetime that she had here.
And if They don't transition in essence.
A spirit is somebody, or as some people like to say, ghost is someone who is the exact same person they were on earth.
They just don't have the physical body.
It's not until we transition to the other side that we process through all of the moments and experiences that happen and release that programming body, that human mind.
And we let go of the, because that's really what connects us to linear time.
We let go of that linear time and cross over.
But individuals that are in the in-between, they haven't let go of linear time.
They're the exact same person.
They just haven't crossed over.
Why would that be?
Because they feel bonded to something unfinished here or what?
There's a lot of reasons.
And when I mention that this is why I understand that I was open to all of this, I've been doing crossing over work since those early years.
After training with Big Dog for a while in those woods, he let me know that this is your job.
You need to help people cross over and help people transition.
And he explained to me, and I've experienced it over the years of just countless situations that I've been in and helping people cross over, that the reasons are numerous.
Most of the reasons are fear-based.
Most of the reasons are terrified of where they're going.
So if someone's done a lot of very bad things or, you know, it can even be somebody who's kind and sweet, but they stole a pencil and they were convinced by the other humans that they were going to hell for that.
So there's a lot of fear in the in-between.
Then there are also people, very small percent, who are stuck because they're not aware that they've passed and they're very confused.
And is that cases where people are killed in sudden, tragic circumstances, like suddenly being hit by a bus or something?
Yeah, something like that.
More so, it's what I've seen and what I've experienced over the years.
It's more so people that were already in a state of confusion when the death happened.
So somebody that was, you know, tripping out on drugs really strongly and then they passed.
And now it's just the trip is still happening.
So typically it's people that are in a state of confusion before they pass.
A lot of individuals that I've connected with in spirit form who have been in the car accidents, for example, there is a slow motion moment where they see it coming.
And the slow motion moment is a sense of calm.
And so the fear is removed right before death.
And so for them, a lot of them don't, they don't become stuck because they're not confused.
I have also seen moms that are scared to leave their kids.
I've seen people that are in there out of curiosity.
I've seen people that are in the in-between for a lot of different reasons.
I've seen an atheist in there, you know, confused as to what's going on.
This isn't supposed to be happening because I don't believe in this.
Yeah, he was one of the nicest guys I ever met.
What did you do for him?
He just, and this was the only time this has happened to me, but it did.
And it was a number of years ago.
And all of a sudden he looked at me, first off, stunned that I could, that I was making eye contact with him.
Well, whatever that form of eye contact is, it's an intention more than physical.
But he's like, I don't understand.
And I had to ask him a few questions.
And when he said, when I, I know I was, I know I was supposed to die, but when I do die, it's going to just stop.
So I haven't died yet, but I don't understand why I haven't.
So he was kind of trying to figure out because he was 100% solid.
So he was in denial.
So it was kind of a denial.
Yeah.
It was also a confusion why he hadn't died yet, but yet he was in this weird kind of space that didn't make sense.
He wasn't in the hospital wherever he was.
I didn't have time to ask him where he was, but wherever he was before he died, he knew he was going to die.
And so he was convinced maybe that he didn't.
He's like, it's supposed to all just end.
And I said, oh, and I said, well, symbolically, do you see like a door or something?
And he goes, well, yeah, I can kind of see that.
And you could tell he was kind of creating it because you can create really almost anything in that space because you're not limited by the body.
And I said, well, I think when you go through the door, you just, it ends.
And he's like, well, thank you.
I said, yeah.
And then he did.
Okay.
And then that was it.
Do you know who he was?
I mean, do you know who he was, what he did for a living, who his family were?
Isn't that funny?
I don't.
And for me, I didn't step out into the public for a very long time.
And I did a lot of these very quickly in passing, like when I was about my day.
And it wasn't until later that I ended up being in a position to tell these stories to somebody.
I didn't think that I would be sharing any of this back then.
So I didn't go through all that.
And later I look back and I equally want to know like all those answers with him.
But I also now moving forward, people have those questions and those are great questions.
And I look back and think, I wish I would have asked.
Well, they would help to validate these things, wouldn't they?
Oh, you would think so.
You would think so.
And I think because I was in this space where it wasn't necessarily proof-based and I wasn't needing to present it or tell anyone or anything.
It was just what I was experiencing.
I think I approached it more as just helping someone.
Okay.
You know, like if you, if you see a lost kid on the street, you wouldn't be like, well, how old are you?
Where do you live?
What's your favorite toy?
What did you do yesterday?
But, you know, I can understand that that happened and you didn't necessarily.
I'm the kind of person that would, yeah, that would just be like, hey, kiddo, we're instantly going to find help.
We're going to get to help.
Help probably connects with mom.
That's awesome.
I'm not going to pull the kid out of mom's arms and say, I got some questions for you.
So I'm the kind of person that just, if I can help, I'll help.
But I also don't want to, You know, get in the way of that process.
And like I said, early on in the early years, I wasn't doing this.
I wasn't really sharing this in the public very much.
Like you said, I'm not very well known.
I'm just now in the last three, four years coming out and saying, hey, this is what's going on.
And now, you know, I've gone from helping people open their intuition locally in my like local town to now I help people all over the globe.
So so now, yeah, I do need to go back to these.
But unfortunately, at the time, many times I didn't ask the questions that I wish I would have.
We could make international news headlines if you told me something that was going to happen and it happened.
But couldn't we?
We absolutely could.
I wouldn't rely on my prediction skills, though.
I'm going to be direct with you on that.
I would rely on my skills to work in the in-between and all of that type of stuff, but I wouldn't rely too much on those predictions.
Now, we've been talking now for a long time, so we're going to have to wrap it up.
Unfortunately, and I've enjoyed this conversation.
I think it's nice to go around these matters from time to time, and I'm glad that we did.
I have some listeners who are enormously skeptical, some people who will not listen to any medium or anybody who talks about this stuff on my show.
They won't listen, and some of them will listen, but it'll make them very, very, very angry.
Angry with you, angry with me, just generally outraged and angry.
If there was one thing you could say to those people to convince them or to make them think differently, what might that be?
One thing.
You can say two if you want.
If I could say two.
The two things I would say is I've been there.
I know.
I know exactly what that is.
And it's not necessary to step out of your skepticism or be converted to anything else.
That's not a requirement.
It's not a need.
And the only reason that I went from skeptic to full on into this existence that I'm in now is to help and do some of the work that I was asked to do.
I'm grateful for the proof that they give me almost every day.
I have ridiculous proof.
And it's a wonderful thing personally.
But my job is not to, and no intuitive, no one's job is to convince a psychic that's or not a psychic, a skeptic.
That's, that's my personal opinion because if you're here to have your experience the way you're supposed to have it, then that's exactly how you're supposed to have it.
So I honor skeptics more than I would ever want to try to change their mind.
Okay, so it's not for you to find out the truth for them.
They have to find it out for themselves.
Exactly.
And also, I would challenge skeptics to stay in their skepticism and explore what that means in their life as a result of being able to be skeptic.
What other areas of your life have you been able to analyze in the ways that you've been able to do that through that skepticism?
I would encourage them to use their skepticism in a healthy manner.
Skepticism is not a bad thing.
If people want to learn more about you, where would they go online?
They would go to thesagemethod.com.
Everything is pretty much there.
Thank you very much.
I found you very easy to talk to.
It's been wonderful, Howard.
Thank you.
As ever, your thoughts.
Welcome on all the shows.
Isabeau Maxwell is her name.
She gave you the details of how you can find out more about her.
And as I say, I'm always interested to hear what you think of the guests.
More great guests in the pipeline here at The Unexplained Online.
So until next we meet, my name is Howard Hughes.
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And please, whatever you do, number one, stay safe.
Number two, very important, stay calm.
Number three, equally important, please stay in touch.
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